Seeing as NXWM has a late running thread I thought one here would be useful ( there again the amount of times the diamond routes I have to catch are late, I forsee it becoming bigger than the NXWM one!)
To start
1750 226 10 late and counting
The 22:30 to sutton 71 has been late 15 minspast 2 days
I catch the 22:17, 71 from Sutton early in the week & although the bus usually arrives before the departure time always leaves 8-10 min late & then embarks on a race to catch up.
I've just seen four 002s heading to the Castle within the space of 25 minutes - in true Diamond fashion!
Quote from: the trainbasher on May 02, 2014, 06:01:11 PM
Seeing as NXWM has a late running thread I thought one here would be useful ( there again the amount of times the diamond routes I have to catch are late, I forsee it becoming bigger than the NXWM one!)
To start
1750 226 10 late and counting
To be fair, I started the 'Late running services' thread with a report of a school service running over an hour late, and then some others joined in with some other spectacular late runnings. It's not my fault that after that people just started reporting buses that were a few minutes late! Buses run late, it's a fact! :P
Quote from: Stu on May 04, 2014, 06:13:49 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on May 02, 2014, 06:01:11 PM
Seeing as NXWM has a late running thread I thought one here would be useful ( there again the amount of times the diamond routes I have to catch are late, I forsee it becoming bigger than the NXWM one!)
To start
1750 226 10 late and counting
To be fair, I started the 'Late running services' thread with a report of a school service running over an hour late, and then some others joined in with some other spectacular late runnings. It's not my fault that after that people just started reporting buses that were a few minutes late! Buses run late, it's a fact! :P
Yes, I think someone reported one being 6 minutes late in there ::)
One of the few things I admire about NX, though, is the rarity with which buses run early. At infrequent times, the earliest I've seen a 9 leave a timing point is by 2 minutes.
Whereas the 226 is regularly late for no reason whatsoever. In fact I had to wait for one once which left merry hill over half hour late, in fact the next one was due to arrive 5 minutes after the one I got eventually left (and that was on the evening service too!)
And the 002 almost always leaves merry hill in pairs. It's no wonder people get annoyed waiting for diamond services that's almost always late.
In fact I'm sure today was the first Sunday where all three buses on the diamond 226 was on time!!
Today I was in merryhill at about 14:30 and two 002s arrived one after the other ! no service for about 40 minutes as both drivers were out of sight not even on the bus or in the cab !
Quote from: DiamondDart on May 04, 2014, 07:24:41 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on May 04, 2014, 06:48:08 PM
Whereas the 226 is regularly late for no reason whatsoever. In fact I had to wait for one once which left merry hill over half hour late, in fact the next one was due to arrive 5 minutes after the one I got eventually left (and that was on the evening service too!)
And the 002 almost always leaves merry hill in pairs. It's no wonder people get annoyed waiting for diamond services that's almost always late.
In fact I'm sure today was the first Sunday where all three buses on the diamond 226 was on time!!
If Sunday 226's are still running they must be running months late litrrally as it has been the 226W for months :p
226/226W then if you intend to be perdantic
Quote from: DiamondDart on May 04, 2014, 08:22:25 PM
Quote from: Daniel w on May 04, 2014, 08:16:50 PM
Today I was in merryhill at about 14:30 and two 002s arrived one after the other ! no service for about 40 minutes as both drivers were out of sight not even on the bus or in the cab !
I doubt that sincerely.
And I wasn't being PEdantic-it was humour.
I don't doubt it at all knowing how Diamond behave on the 002
I was there 1400 to 1500 and around those times there were two 002s there
this a according to my nextdoor neighbour as they were wating for the bus and I was at sainsburs and burgerking then
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Quote from: Daniel w on May 04, 2014, 08:16:50 PM
Today I was in merryhill at about 14:30 and two 002s arrived one after the other ! no service for about 40 minutes as both drivers were out of sight not even on the bus or in the cab !
I doubt that sincerely.
And I wasn't being PEdantic-it was humour.
I don't doubt it at all knowing how Diamond behave on the 002
Well they turn up, unlike TGB and have a timetable. Of course routes like the 002 and 226 are going to suffer delays as are NX routes like the 244.
I just fail to understand how at 2:30, when one would have just arrived, another would arrive. Are you seriously telling me on a Sunday, the 2 o'clock 002 would have been running 30 minutes late. Even if that is as you say, there would have been another 002 30 mins after that. So the claim "no service for 40 minutes" is stretching the boundaries of credibility. I can guarantee that you didn't witness this-it is merely an interpretation and exaggeration of someone else's post.
Quite the opposite I'm afraid, you'll wait ages for a Diamond 002 and then two will come along at once, with a third not far behind. Diamond have no concept of sticking to a timetable on the 002. TGB meanwhile run to the timetable and collect the passengers who have given up waiting for a 002. In my eyes Diamond are easy competition on the 002 and I hope TGB take advantage of their poor reputation amongst the users of the route
Quote from: Daniel w on May 04, 2014, 08:39:57 PM
this a according to my nextdoor neighbour as they were wating for the bus and I was at sainsburs and burgerking then
I didn't think "Sainsburs" had a Burger King Outlet inside? How can you be in two places at once?
I did see a 002 go down Manor Way about 14:28 as i got off 30824 by Cloister Drive (Sandvik) and got onto the 9 behind. Looking at the online timetable the 002 is due at 08 and 38 from Manor Way towards MH so whether the 14:08 (Running 20 minutes late) was still parked up when the next one pulled in at Merry Hill?
The main problems with 002 has always been tight running times and a lack of layover time at both Weoley Castle and Merry Hill. At one time, and this may have changed, buses only had 1 or 2 minutes turn around time, it often took longer to get round Weoley Castle or Merry Hill Bus Station than the layover time. Late buses never have the chance to catch up time. With Green Bus they have around 15 minutes layover at Merry Hill giving plenty of time to catch up time if arriving late. Where I think TGB loose time is at the Town Hall, drivers seem to relief every trip and it seems to take several minutes.
With respect to buses being parked up in Merry Hill on Sundays drivers may well take their break 'with the bus' rather than have a relief driver for their bus.
Quote from: Nathan on May 04, 2014, 08:51:27 PM
Quote from: Daniel w on May 04, 2014, 08:39:57 PM
this a according to my nextdoor neighbour as they were wating for the bus and I was at sainsburs and burgerking then
I didn't think "Sainsburs" had a Burger King Outlet inside? How can you be in two places at once? that is where I was for the hour sainsburs then walked to burger king right oppiste
. Looking at the online timetable the 002 is due at 08 and 38 from Manor Way towards MH so whether the 14:08 (Running 20 minutes late) was still parked up when the next one pulled in at Merry Hill? yes the firstwas late the next one pulled in afew minutes late then none left till 14:42 according to my neighbour which is quite ureliable
Quote from: DiamondDart on May 04, 2014, 08:53:55 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 04, 2014, 08:44:06 PM
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Quote from: Matt on May 04, 2014, 08:24:09 PM
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Quote from: Daniel w on May 04, 2014, 08:16:50 PM
Today I was in merryhill at about 14:30 and two 002s arrived one after the other ! no service for about 40 minutes as both drivers were out of sight not even on the bus or in the cab !
I doubt that sincerely.
And I wasn't being PEdantic-it was humour.
I don't doubt it at all knowing how Diamond behave on the 002
Well they turn up, unlike TGB and have a timetable. Of course routes like the 002 and 226 are going to suffer delays as are NX routes like the 244.
I just fail to understand how at 2:30, when one would have just arrived, another would arrive. Are you seriously telling me on a Sunday, the 2 o'clock 002 would have been running 30 minutes late. Even if that is as you say, there would have been another 002 30 mins after that. So the claim "no service for 40 minutes" is stretching the boundaries of credibility. I can guarantee that you didn't witness this-it is merely an interpretation and exaggeration of someone else's post.
Quite the opposite I'm afraid, you'll wait ages for a Diamond 002 and then two will come along at once, with a third not far behind. Diamond have no concept of sticking to a timetable on the 002. TGB meanwhile run to the timetable and collect the passengers who have given up waiting for a 002. In my eyes Diamond are easy competition on the 002 and I hope TGB take advantage of their poor reputation amongst the users of the route
Did you not read Trident4370's post in the TGB thread about no-shows and someone else also posted that. You even joked there was a black hole somewhere along the route.
There is possibly doubling when M-F on a 15 min headway particularly in afternoons but timekeeping really isn't bad.
If diamond are really easy competition then TGB should really be asking themselves why the 22 has struggled to take off. I'm sorry the route arrived with free buses on no timetable, then it was every 30 mins then every 15 and no one really seems to know what the timetable is.
I think a lot of the timetabling issues where the fault of Centro and not TGB. Timetables were showing every hour and not every half hour as TGB were going to operate and took too long to correct. There is still no label showing the 22 at it's Birmingham bound stop in Halesowen Bus Station. Considering an operator pays Centro for timetables (28p per stop I think) to put in stops they deserved a better service.
There is a sense that every new route takes time to take off. In recent weeks TGB are carrying more fare paying passengers and according to a couple of drivers I spoke to they are meeting their cash and bus pass targets, passengers are starting to use it to / from Merry Hill and Halesowen to Jiggins Lane and down into Harborne. The main cause of low passenger numbers at the Birmingham end as I see it is that it terminates at the Town Hall and not Colmore Row and the route begins at a stop not used by other Harborne bound buses.
Quote from: DiamondDart on May 04, 2014, 08:53:55 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 04, 2014, 08:44:06 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on May 04, 2014, 08:35:19 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 04, 2014, 08:24:09 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on May 04, 2014, 08:22:25 PM
Quote from: Daniel w on May 04, 2014, 08:16:50 PM
Today I was in merryhill at about 14:30 and two 002s arrived one after the other ! no service for about 40 minutes as both drivers were out of sight not even on the bus or in the cab !
I doubt that sincerely.
And I wasn't being PEdantic-it was humour.
I don't doubt it at all knowing how Diamond behave on the 002
Well they turn up, unlike TGB and have a timetable. Of course routes like the 002 and 226 are going to suffer delays as are NX routes like the 244.
I just fail to understand how at 2:30, when one would have just arrived, another would arrive. Are you seriously telling me on a Sunday, the 2 o'clock 002 would have been running 30 minutes late. Even if that is as you say, there would have been another 002 30 mins after that. So the claim "no service for 40 minutes" is stretching the boundaries of credibility. I can guarantee that you didn't witness this-it is merely an interpretation and exaggeration of someone else's post.
Quite the opposite I'm afraid, you'll wait ages for a Diamond 002 and then two will come along at once, with a third not far behind. Diamond have no concept of sticking to a timetable on the 002. TGB meanwhile run to the timetable and collect the passengers who have given up waiting for a 002. In my eyes Diamond are easy competition on the 002 and I hope TGB take advantage of their poor reputation amongst the users of the route
Did you not read Trident4370's post in the TGB thread about no-shows and someone else also posted that. You even joked there was a black hole somewhere along the route.
There is possibly doubling when M-F on a 15 min headway particularly in afternoons but timekeeping really isn't bad.
If diamond are really easy competition then TGB should really be asking themselves why the 22 has struggled to take off. I'm sorry the route arrived with free buses on no timetable, then it was every 30 mins then every 15 and no one really seems to know what the timetable is.
Firstly, any no shows are isolated occurances and are very rare. Diamond, on the other hand, should know all about no-shows (and don't get me started on the 99!)
The timetable is not obvious because of Centro's failings. A lot of passengers, anyway, are those who have been waiting ages for the 002 and the 22 turned up on time.
Quote from: DiamondDart on May 04, 2014, 09:14:28 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 04, 2014, 09:09:12 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on May 04, 2014, 08:53:55 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 04, 2014, 08:44:06 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on May 04, 2014, 08:35:19 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 04, 2014, 08:24:09 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on May 04, 2014, 08:22:25 PM
Quote from: Daniel w on May 04, 2014, 08:16:50 PM
Today I was in merryhill at about 14:30 and two 002s arrived one after the other ! no service for about 40 minutes as both drivers were out of sight not even on the bus or in the cab !
I doubt that sincerely.
And I wasn't being PEdantic-it was humour.
I don't doubt it at all knowing how Diamond behave on the 002
Well they turn up, unlike TGB and have a timetable. Of course routes like the 002 and 226 are going to suffer delays as are NX routes like the 244.
I just fail to understand how at 2:30, when one would have just arrived, another would arrive. Are you seriously telling me on a Sunday, the 2 o'clock 002 would have been running 30 minutes late. Even if that is as you say, there would have been another 002 30 mins after that. So the claim "no service for 40 minutes" is stretching the boundaries of credibility. I can guarantee that you didn't witness this-it is merely an interpretation and exaggeration of someone else's post.
Quite the opposite I'm afraid, you'll wait ages for a Diamond 002 and then two will come along at once, with a third not far behind. Diamond have no concept of sticking to a timetable on the 002. TGB meanwhile run to the timetable and collect the passengers who have given up waiting for a 002. In my eyes Diamond are easy competition on the 002 and I hope TGB take advantage of their poor reputation amongst the users of the route
Did you not read Trident4370's post in the TGB thread about no-shows and someone else also posted that. You even joked there was a black hole somewhere along the route.
There is possibly doubling when M-F on a 15 min headway particularly in afternoons but timekeeping really isn't bad.
If diamond are really easy competition then TGB should really be asking themselves why the 22 has struggled to take off. I'm sorry the route arrived with free buses on no timetable, then it was every 30 mins then every 15 and no one really seems to know what the timetable is.
Firstly, any no shows are isolated occurances and are very rare. Diamond, on the other hand, should know all about no-shows (and don't get me started on the 99!)
The timetable is not obvious because of Centro's failings. A lot of passengers, anyway, are those who have been waiting ages for the 002 and the 22 turned up on time.
Or if, perchance, the 22 happens to be just in front and is the first bus.
As I have already said, drivers stick to the timetable, regardless of where Diamond are
All this argument started because Daniel w started posting lies again (he was there, then it was his neighbour while he was eating a Burger King in Sainsburys or something like that. He is picking on Diamond because he knows he cannot post crap about NXWM and not get found out. - Just ignore his posts and everyone can be friends again!
No idea what happened or what didn't today with the 002 but I know that there can be some terrible timing issues along the route on a fairly regular basis as studying at Newman University often I can keep a good track of what's going on
My thoughts would be to stick with the current PVR but reduce the advertised frequency to every 20 minutes, thus allowing longer layovers and more drop-back to help try and keep the route somewhere near running on time.
Most passengers I'm sure would prefer to catch a bus every 20 minutes knowing its going to arrive than simply just arrive at the stop and hope for the best as is often the case at the moment and is how I catch the 002 as the timetables are really fairly hopeless
Quote from: Tony on May 04, 2014, 09:30:07 PM
All this argument started because Daniel w started posting lies again (he was there, then it was his neighbour while he was eating a Burger King in Sainsburys or something like that. He is picking on Diamond because he knows he cannot post crap about NXWM and not get found out. - Just ignore his posts and everyone can be friends again!
Well said Tony! Also to add his timings don't add up! He said one arrived late (Well the 14:08 ex Manor Way was 20 minutes late). Then another one came in abit late!
For one the one that was running 20 mins late would have arrived after 14:42! Then how did the next one arrive a few mins later (Also late according to him!) if the next one was due to pull into MH at 14:59 (Leave at 15:07)
Not strictly late running, but the 2215 226 from Dudley failed to operate (well at least not shown up between 2205 and 2225
Two 4Hs towards Walsall just passed Sainsburys in Blackheath.
Two 4Hs in Hayley Green at 13:05.
Diamond 4h being running in twos all day
30454, 30437 ran together at 13:50 exiting halesowen
15:28 4H leaving halesowen came into halesowen and back to Walsall, without completing Hayley green loop
Theres been big delays on the 4 today loads of traffic by Sandwell general
226 running on Hansons time 1045 to Merry Hill Wordsley Cat. No traffic and very few passengers on board.
Quote from: hartshill busman 724210 on September 04, 2014, 10:58:14 AM
226 running on Hansons time 1045 to Merry Hill Wordsley Cat. No traffic and very few passengers on board.
It left merry hill 1108 back for Dudley...I think they've given up!
Was it behind Hansons?
Blue Solo seen on 226 in Kford just, about 7 or 8 late. Hansons E200 infront, 7 or 8 early, just what the passenger wants ::)
Quote from: bususer12 on September 08, 2014, 02:25:21 PM
Blue Solo seen on 226 in Kford just, about 7 or 8 late. Hansons E200 infront, 7 or 8 early, just what the passenger wants ::)
I noticed this occurs with a certain few drivers more often than not.........private little wars I suppose
It's a while ago now but when Diamond worked the 37 to Solihull they often ran in pairs. This even happened on the half-hourly section between Olton and Solihull.
4hs running whenever they want
002 running whenever they want
And I think 142 is broken down somewhere
202 seems to be late majority of time. Yesterday it left halesowen at 40 past the hour instead of 25 past, hard to make up time on that route though. The worst thing was these two ladies were waiting for it, and the 4h came into space, so 202 pulled just in front of 4 blocking the entire road, while people went through the door and on the road to the 202. However they didn't see till it had dissapeared. Bad of driver in all honesty
4 002s in the matter of 5 minutes left Colley Gate towards merry hill about 7 minutes ago. 3 were branded Centro's and one was 30408
807,810 and 811 by merry hill all with 5 minutes
1740 146 from Birmingham to Redditch left 14 late. Now going rather quickly down Stirchley High Street on a B7RLE.
Quote from: Cheese on October 11, 2014, 06:06:47 PM
1740 146 from Birmingham to Redditch left 14 late. Now going rather quickly down Stirchley High Street on a B7RLE.
Is the 146 you're on very busy?
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Quote from: Cheese on October 11, 2014, 06:06:47 PM
1740 146 from Birmingham to Redditch left 14 late. Now going rather quickly down Stirchley High Street on a B7RLE.
Is the 146 you're on very busy?
Nope - there were 4 including me from town, and 1 got on by the Nature Centre. Don't know after Cotteridge where I bailed. Other than a few journeys, I never see hardly anyone on it. I see one coming through Cotteridge towards town around 6.50 every morning (one of the extra journeys from Sept) and the most I have seen on that journey was 5. The only journeys that I have seen that carry any large loads are the ones through Cotteridge at 08:55 and 10:10 on a Saturday. Got a free ride too as the driver just told us all to get on, was going to use my Swift card but saved £1.80 there!
4H 8:10 ex halesowen for Walsall departed at 8:45 and another two mins later, which was the 28 mins past. Traffic by lidl in halesowen was absolute nightmare
Three 56's left Kingstanding Circle at 07:49 a sight i dont see every morning
3 002s just gone Weoley castle way at 16:10 ish from halesowen one displaying woodgate on
4Hs bunch up in the morning going down the hill towards halesowen by lidl, easily 15 minutes late today
On 20501 being chased round the Hayley Green loop part of the 4H by a Plaxton Centro
EDIT: 30808 is the one chasing...
002's in meltdown this afternoon-1608 from just before Halesowen bus station arrived at more like past 20 past, followed by DCX on the 1624...
No doubt Merry Hill traffic-217 also late.
Bizarrely though Hanson's were running around early?! :P ::)
Quote from: Matt on December 16, 2014, 08:45:23 PM
DiamondDart, did you see my HC2 ? We were in Hales around 20 past 8)
Didn't see that Matt! I came in on the 217 and got 862 on the late 1609 service. Can't have left until after half past after it had sat around a while/engine cut out on leaving.
Quote from: DiamondDart on December 16, 2014, 08:47:27 PM
Quote from: Matt on December 16, 2014, 08:45:23 PM
DiamondDart, did you see my HC2 ? We were in Hales around 20 past 8)
Didn't see that Matt! I came in on the 217 and got 862 on the late 1609 service. Can't have left until after half past after it had sat around a while/engine cut out on leaving.
30411 cut out on 4H today, took a few minutes to start again
Quote from: Matt on December 16, 2014, 08:59:45 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on December 16, 2014, 08:47:27 PM
Quote from: Matt on December 16, 2014, 08:45:23 PM
DiamondDart, did you see my HC2 ? We were in Hales around 20 past 8)
Didn't see that Matt! I came in on the 217 and got 862 on the late 1609 service. Can't have left until after half past after it had sat around a while/engine cut out on leaving.
We came down Andrew Road and turned right, about 20 past, big orange decker can't miss it ;)
Must have been just a bit before ;)
Quote from: DiamondDart on December 16, 2014, 08:47:27 PM
Quote from: Matt on December 16, 2014, 08:45:23 PM
DiamondDart, did you see my HC2 ? We were in Hales around 20 past 8)
Didn't see that Matt! I came in on the 217 and got 862 on the late 1609 service. Can't have left until after half past after it had sat around a while/engine cut out on leaving.
I've got 30862 down as arriving at 1627, departing 4 after (the arrival going off the TGX)
Quote from: the trainbasher on December 16, 2014, 09:14:01 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on December 16, 2014, 08:47:27 PM
Quote from: Matt on December 16, 2014, 08:45:23 PM
DiamondDart, did you see my HC2 ? We were in Hales around 20 past 8)
Didn't see that Matt! I came in on the 217 and got 862 on the late 1609 service. Can't have left until after half past after it had sat around a while/engine cut out on leaving.
I've got 30862 down as arriving at 1627, departing 4 after (the arrival going off the TGX)
Wasn't too far off then ;)
Quote from: DiamondDart on December 16, 2014, 09:15:36 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on December 16, 2014, 09:14:01 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on December 16, 2014, 08:47:27 PM
Quote from: Matt on December 16, 2014, 08:45:23 PM
DiamondDart, did you see my HC2 ? We were in Hales around 20 past 8)
Didn't see that Matt! I came in on the 217 and got 862 on the late 1609 service. Can't have left until after half past after it had sat around a while/engine cut out on leaving.
I've got 30862 down as arriving at 1627, departing 4 after (the arrival going off the TGX)
Wasn't too far off then ;)
I only know because I alighted at Halesowen...
Quote from: the trainbasher on December 16, 2014, 09:18:23 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on December 16, 2014, 09:15:36 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on December 16, 2014, 09:14:01 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on December 16, 2014, 08:47:27 PM
Quote from: Matt on December 16, 2014, 08:45:23 PM
DiamondDart, did you see my HC2 ? We were in Hales around 20 past 8)
Didn't see that Matt! I came in on the 217 and got 862 on the late 1609 service. Can't have left until after half past after it had sat around a while/engine cut out on leaving.
I've got 30862 down as arriving at 1627, departing 4 after (the arrival going off the TGX)
Wasn't too far off then ;)
I only know because I alighted at Halesowen...
I was at the back of an immense queue to board :P
3094* and volvo 3081* on 4H together at Hayley green at 15:40 ish
The 82 service scheduled 0610 departed Coventry Pool Meadow at 0645 - inexcusable for that time of the morning.
No idea if this journey gets regular users at this point but the standard livery bus seemed empty upon departure, maybe they gave up.
30862 & 30858 running together in Hayley green.
Quote from: JPC on December 23, 2014, 03:51:48 PM
The 82 service scheduled 0610 departed Coventry Pool Meadow at 0645 - inexcusable for that time of the morning.
No idea if this journey gets regular users at this point but the standard livery bus seemed empty upon departure, maybe they gave up.
Not really inexcusable, a driver may have been late or called in sick and it took that long to get the spare or find another one.
Quote from: DiamondDart on December 16, 2014, 08:29:18 PM
002's in meltdown this afternoon-1608 from just before Halesowen bus station arrived at more like past 20 past, followed by DCX on the 1624...
No doubt Merry Hill traffic-217 also late.
Bizarrely though Hanson's were running around early?! :P ::)
So that's a delay of 12 minutes on the 002? That's classed as on time in the Wyre Forest. Services on the 3 are sometimes 30 mins plus late or just don't turn up at varying times of the day.
Dear Sir
I sit down with the management team of all the West Midlands depots and review performance.
One of the items we cover is lost mileage and service monitorings. Kidderminster depot reports lost mileage to be consistently less than 0.3%
The 3 does feature as having odd journeys with no explainable pattern operate excessively late.
I would be interested to know about any problems you have to both bench mark reported performance and at the same time any thoughts you may have as why we seem to have problems with odd journeys, which we may be missing
Simon
Quote from: Simon Dunn on December 28, 2014, 07:22:25 PM
Dear Sir
I sit down with the management team of all the West Midlands depots and review performance.
One of the items we cover is lost mileage and service monitorings. Kidderminster depot reports lost mileage to be consistently less than 0.3%
The 3 does feature as having odd journeys with no explainable pattern operate excessively late.
I would be interested to know about any problems you have to both bench mark reported performance and at the same time any thoughts you may have as why we seem to have problems with odd journeys, which we may be missing
Simon
Hi Simon,
Thanks for your interest in this, a few suggestions I would put forward are:
1) Heavy traffic on the Stourport Road in Foley Park and through Stourport itself, especially on weekday mornings, seriously affects reliability on the 3 service. I know this is beyond your control but it is a serious factor.
2) The 20 minute gap built into the daytime timetable does not help matters. When the 52 past X3 and 02 past 3 services (the previous one having been 32 mins past the hour) ex Areley Kings run to Kidderminster (often together) they have to stop at pretty much every stop to pick up the passengers who have been waiting for 20-30 mins.
3) I have heard many people mention the fact the buses are 'every 10 mins' as this was promoted by Diamond when the timetable changed but this is not the case apart from small chunk of the morning peak, meaning people wait for a bus at the wrong times. This is exacerbated by there being no timetables displayed (a WCC issue I think?) at many stops on the route. Therefore when a bus does come after a gap of 20 mins or so there are delays in the extra time for more people to get on and off.
4) Use of small buses at peak times especially in the morning causes delays when standing passengers have to shuffle and move every time someone gets on or off, meaning buses are waiting at stops for longer than they need to.
5) Quite often buses just plain don't turn up. As for why? I really wouldn't know. One example which caused me problems getting to work on time in the past are the 0819 and 0833 ex Areley Kings which seem to decide which days they run. A week or two back the 0833 turned up at 0855, for example. Occasionally the missing service is explained when we go past an MPD with hazards on and the Diamond van in attendance! More worrying I have, more than once now, seen a Diamond bus on the 3 route parked up shutdown with no staff in attendance whatsoever, looking abandoned. I am trying to think when and what bus but can't remember unfortunately.
6) Some of your drivers, not many but some, seem to drive excessively slow, even when they are running considerably late. Whilst many of your drivers are great and good at recovering delays a small minority just don't seem bothered about recovering time and are more interested in when their next break is. This of course leads to further delays. Once I was on a 3 service going through the Birchen Coppice estate towards Kidderminster and we went past a bus parked up with the driver reading the paper. I remember this was a day with delays but it was some time ago.
7) I have noticed quite often the same bus/driver will be running late for most of the day at the same times each hour. For example it is usually the buses around half past the hour from Areley Kings that seem late or missing. Those services timetabled to depart closer to on the hour for example from 00 to 15 mins past seem to be very punctual. The X3 seems to be a lot more reliable since the timetable change in June.
If you like I can keep you updated via private message when I experience buses turning up considerably late or not at all. Then you can compare these reports with the monitorings Rotala have to hand.
This is not meant as criticism of Diamond, which gets me to and from work successfully more than most of the time and I like the company, rather just a few thoughts on what contributes to late running, etc.
Sam
30862 was 30'down this morning exiting halesowen
30861 was 15 down leaving halesowen
Surprising the 142 was on time
1620 226 off Dudley running 15 down. Its only just left Dudley. 20535 is the dart.
Its amazing what you see when visiting Dudley!
1750 226 From Dudley either FTO or was 15+ late.
1805 Hansons was on time.
Quote from: Simon Dunn on December 28, 2014, 07:22:25 PM
Dear Sir
I sit down with the management team of all the West Midlands depots and review performance.
One of the items we cover is lost mileage and service monitorings. Kidderminster depot reports lost mileage to be consistently less than 0.3%
The 3 does feature as having odd journeys with no explainable pattern operate excessively late.
I would be interested to know about any problems you have to both bench mark reported performance and at the same time any thoughts you may have as why we seem to have problems with odd journeys, which we may be missing
Simon
Simon
I went to catch a 10 today and it did not arrive nor did the next and the one after was 10 minutes late, I have reported it . today again . to Stephen whos email address you gave me . how unreliable the is 10 it gives diamond a bad name.
WHAT HAPPENED LAST NIGHT 2 DIAMOND 56 AT APROX 17.15 AT PRIMO IN DIAMOND LIVERY FOLLOWED BY A RED DIAMOND
The 202 from Halesowen departed at 15:51 towards Bromsgrove. It had yellow digital displays, and was a longer version of 20263. Also the women who usually drives the 202 was on the 142!
That's the diamond standard...2 54s in a minute! Half hourly frequency on the route and both of them heading to four dwellings!
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 12, 2015, 06:34:24 PM
That's the diamond standard...2 54s in a minute! Half hourly frequency on the route and both of them heading to four dwellings!
Everyone has vendettas against diamond, an I the only one who thinks there quite good?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 12, 2015, 06:54:33 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 12, 2015, 06:34:24 PM
That's the diamond standard...2 54s in a minute! Half hourly frequency on the route and both of them heading to four dwellings!
Everyone has vendettas against diamond, an I the only one who thinks there quite good?
Nope
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 12, 2015, 06:54:33 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 12, 2015, 06:34:24 PM
That's the diamond standard...2 54s in a minute! Half hourly frequency on the route and both of them heading to four dwellings!
Everyone has vendettas against diamond, an I the only one who thinks there quite good?
When one has to use their not so swift service every day one grows annoyed especially when one is on ones way to work and gets delayed due to reliability even the West Coast Main Line hasn't stooped to It's not surprising that one has reservations regarding the standard of service that the operator one is discussing.
Oh, I forgot, according to some people Diamond are the second coming :)
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 12, 2015, 07:06:24 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 12, 2015, 06:54:33 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 12, 2015, 06:34:24 PM
That's the diamond standard...2 54s in a minute! Half hourly frequency on the route and both of them heading to four dwellings!
Everyone has vendettas against diamond, an I the only one who thinks there quite good?
When one has to use their not so swift service every day one grows annoyed especially when one is on ones way to work and gets delayed due to reliability even the West Coast Main Line hasn't stooped to It's not surprising that one has reservations regarding the standard of service that the operator one is discussing.
Oh, I forgot, according to some people Diamond are the second coming :)
Why don't you use hansons then ? I use the 4H regularly and is usually pretty reliable
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 12, 2015, 07:34:40 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 12, 2015, 07:06:24 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 12, 2015, 06:54:33 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 12, 2015, 06:34:24 PM
That's the diamond standard...2 54s in a minute! Half hourly frequency on the route and both of them heading to four dwellings!
Everyone has vendettas against diamond, an I the only one who thinks there quite good?
When one has to use their not so swift service every day one grows annoyed especially when one is on ones way to work and gets delayed due to reliability even the West Coast Main Line hasn't stooped to It's not surprising that one has reservations regarding the standard of service that the operator one is discussing.
Oh, I forgot, according to some people Diamond are the second coming :)
Why don't you use hansons then ? I use the 4H regularly and is usually pretty reliable
4H Reliable? Don't make me laugh!
And I do use Hansons most of the time, except when I miss them because of their on time running (99% of the time you'll see a Hansons 226 on time, especially when a certain forum members driving)
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 12, 2015, 07:50:48 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 12, 2015, 07:34:40 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 12, 2015, 07:06:24 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 12, 2015, 06:54:33 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 12, 2015, 06:34:24 PM
That's the diamond standard...2 54s in a minute! Half hourly frequency on the route and both of them heading to four dwellings!
Everyone has vendettas against diamond, an I the only one who thinks there quite good?
When one has to use their not so swift service every day one grows annoyed especially when one is on ones way to work and gets delayed due to reliability even the West Coast Main Line hasn't stooped to It's not surprising that one has reservations regarding the standard of service that the operator one is discussing.
Oh, I forgot, according to some people Diamond are the second coming :)
Why don't you use hansons then ? I use the 4H regularly and is usually pretty reliable
4H Reliable? Don't make me laugh!
And I do use Hansons most of the time, except when I miss them because of their on time running (99% of the time you'll see a Hansons 226 on time, especially when a certain forum members driving)
Well it's more reliable than the 244, and you get decent buses now
Quote from: Matt on March 12, 2015, 08:01:41 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 12, 2015, 07:58:34 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 12, 2015, 07:50:48 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 12, 2015, 07:34:40 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 12, 2015, 07:06:24 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 12, 2015, 06:54:33 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 12, 2015, 06:34:24 PM
That's the diamond standard...2 54s in a minute! Half hourly frequency on the route and both of them heading to four dwellings!
Everyone has vendettas against diamond, an I the only one who thinks there quite good?
When one has to use their not so swift service every day one grows annoyed especially when one is on ones way to work and gets delayed due to reliability even the West Coast Main Line hasn't stooped to It's not surprising that one has reservations regarding the standard of service that the operator one is discussing.
Oh, I forgot, according to some people Diamond are the second coming :)
Why don't you use hansons then ? I use the 4H regularly and is usually pretty reliable
4H Reliable? Don't make me laugh!
And I do use Hansons most of the time, except when I miss them because of their on time running (99% of the time you'll see a Hansons 226 on time, especially when a certain forum members driving)
Well it's more reliable than the 244, and you get decent buses now
Depends on your definition of a "decent bus", ask most passengers you'll be told a "decent bus" is one that turns up when it's supposed to!
244s are hardly ever on time, i think the drivers on there can't read there timetable as its often 25 past 45past and 05 from halesowen
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 12, 2015, 08:03:58 PM
244s are hardly ever on time, i think the drivers on there can't read there timetable as its often 25 past 45past and 05 from halesowen
Perhaps someone writing in poor English ought not should not be criticising others reading ability. Do you really think that is the reason buses are late?
Quote from: Tony on March 12, 2015, 08:10:53 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 12, 2015, 08:03:58 PM
244s are hardly ever on time, i think the drivers on there can't read there timetable as its often 25 past 45past and 05 from halesowen
Perhaps someone writing in poor English ought not should not be criticising others reading ability. Do you really think that is the reason buses are late?
All I'm saying is no doubt when the e200s arrive it will be a lot more reliable
Another day, another late running diamond. 20507 running on Hansons times
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 12, 2015, 06:34:24 PM
That's the diamond standard...2 54s in a minute! Half hourly frequency on the route and both of them heading to four dwellings!
This is becoming an increasing problem at Diamond now, Diamond have a strict policy of no lost mileage, whilst good in practice it leads to problems like this, no matter how much the driver requests it they are no being allowed to adjust themselves. This is why you will see crazy situations like 5 002's running together, the drivers have all asked to be adjusted but the reply from the traffic office will be carry on in service, no lost mileage today ect. Whilst I agree that steps must be taken to minimise lost mileage the situation at Diamond now has gone beyond the point where it's beneficial. Enormous pressure is placed on the traffic office staff not to authorise lost mileage at all, so as a result you get some crazy situations of buses running together because of traffic or other circumstances beyond the drivers control. But because of the pressure from above nothing can or will be done about it.
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 12, 2015, 07:50:48 PM
4H Reliable? Don't make me laugh!
And I do use Hansons most of the time, except when I miss them because of their on time running (99% of the time you'll see a Hansons 226 on time, especially when a certain forum members driving)
Errr if thats me then thanks lol.
The advantage we have at Hansons is most of the drivers do the same duty most days so we know where to hold back a little because it's traffic free and we also know where we are going to hit traffic. It don't always work but it helps to 'know' the route. The 226 is a funny route though, no 2 days are ever quite the same on it to be fair.
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 13, 2015, 02:51:40 PM
Another day, another late running diamond. 20507 running on Hansons times
I can only assume that's a breakdown substitute, I doubt 20507 would normally be allocated to the 226, it's fairly reliable but not the most powerful dart in the world. I can imagine some of the hills had it sweating a little ;)
Diamond seem to allocate the 03 solos enough on the 226 though
@Metrorider . Some of those are really slow on gradients. The newer solos are much more nippy round the route.
I suppose drivers take things into their own hands re. lost mileage with diamond. Seen a few diamond drivers miss ashwood park loop or swan estate;.
Quote from: bususer12 on March 14, 2015, 04:42:33 PM
Diamond seem to allocate the 03 solos enough on the 226 though @Metrorider . Some of those are really slow on gradients. The newer solos are much more nippy round the route.
I suppose drivers take things into their own hands re. lost mileage with diamond. Seen a few diamond drivers miss ashwood park loop or swan estate;.
Yeah the 03 solos are getting a bit tired now, some of the newer ones aren't a lot better though (MXG comes to mind). I never really worked out what the thinking was behind the 226 becoming a Solo route. Most people at Tividale were of the same opinion as well but it came from higher up the chain that the 226 must be a solo route and that was that. Think it was spun at the time that newer buses were coming to the 226 and indeed a few did, but the 03 solos that are normally out on it these days aren't much newer than the darts that previously worked the route lol.
I'm sure Diamond had good intentions putting Solos on the route, but like a few other things at Diamond at the moment it's a situation that would probably benefit from being looked at again in my opinion.
Quote from: Metrorider on March 13, 2015, 10:32:24 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 12, 2015, 06:34:24 PM
That's the diamond standard...2 54s in a minute! Half hourly frequency on the route and both of them heading to four dwellings!
This is becoming an increasing problem at Diamond now, Diamond have a strict policy of no lost mileage, whilst good in practice it leads to problems like this, no matter how much the driver requests it they are no being allowed to adjust themselves. This is why you will see crazy situations like 5 002's running together, the drivers have all asked to be adjusted but the reply from the traffic office will be carry on in service, no lost mileage today ect. Whilst I agree that steps must be taken to minimise lost mileage the situation at Diamond now has gone beyond the point where it's beneficial. Enormous pressure is placed on the traffic office staff not to authorise lost mileage at all, so as a result you get some crazy situations of buses running together because of traffic or other circumstances beyond the drivers control. But because of the pressure from above nothing can or will be done about it.
Something to ask the management? They are after all on the forum
Quote from: Kevin on March 14, 2015, 08:06:30 PM
Quote from: Metrorider on March 13, 2015, 10:32:24 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 12, 2015, 06:34:24 PM
That's the diamond standard...2 54s in a minute! Half hourly frequency on the route and both of them heading to four dwellings!
This is becoming an increasing problem at Diamond now, Diamond have a strict policy of no lost mileage, whilst good in practice it leads to problems like this, no matter how much the driver requests it they are no being allowed to adjust themselves. This is why you will see crazy situations like 5 002's running together, the drivers have all asked to be adjusted but the reply from the traffic office will be carry on in service, no lost mileage today ect. Whilst I agree that steps must be taken to minimise lost mileage the situation at Diamond now has gone beyond the point where it's beneficial. Enormous pressure is placed on the traffic office staff not to authorise lost mileage at all, so as a result you get some crazy situations of buses running together because of traffic or other circumstances beyond the drivers control. But because of the pressure from above nothing can or will be done about it.
Something to ask the management? They are after all on the forum
It's already been mentioned to them
And at this time of the day no chance of pulling that back on the 002
20841 is running on timetable..albeit the Hansons 226 timetable
4hs are looking a bit late, the 15:10 from halesowen departed at 15:34
The 15:26 departed at 15:41
1550 226 from Dudley is following the Hansons times and is parked by coop. 2600 of Hansons is on time though...
1810/1826 4h at Halesowen doing Hayley Green together...
at this time of the day no chance of pulling that back!!
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 20, 2015, 06:30:47 PM
1810/1826 4h at Halesowen doing Hayley Green together...
at this time of the day no chance of pulling that back!!
Any idea what fleet numbers?
@Trident 4194 the 4Hs were 30942, 30943
xx22 142 off halesowen MIA (missing in action)
Leaving a gap of a hour between 142 trips!!!
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 21, 2015, 04:29:07 PM
xx22 142 off halesowen MIA (missing in action)
Leaving a gap of a hour between 142 trips!!!
It should be 20853 as I came on it two hours earlier
1943 Cradley heath to merry hill 243 not turned up. Meant getting the 4M to merry hill :(
Another couple of minutes and 20869 would have qualified for a Hansons running board!
30861, and value bus on the 4H towards loop at 14:40 in halesowen
142s are also running 5 late@Trident 4194 buses running 5 mins late is not significant & worthy of posting
The 192 passsed 30 mins late, departed at 15:40, think it was 30931, also 4H running when they like, and please kr can take back the 142, I've never known it so unreliable since it moved to kr
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 01, 2015, 04:26:52 PM
The 192 passsed 30 mins late, departed at 15:40, think it was 30931, also 4H running when they like, and please kr can take back the 142, I've never known it so unreliable since it moved to kr
road works at hagley are causing traffic hold ups which are even works at peak times
1050 226 from Dudley to Merry Hill not ran...
both Hansons were on time so I assume it's broke down?
1905 off merry hill 243 is either late or missing as it has not passed through Cradley heath high street As at 1938!
Quote from: Matt on April 07, 2015, 01:02:59 PM
In Kiddy just now
12:36 X3 to Redditch 20 minutes late
Three 3s in convoy one on time, one 10 down, one 20 down
12:34 192 fail to operate
roadworks and heavy traffic in stourport
Quote from: Matt on April 09, 2015, 08:48:12 PM
Just seen him again heading towards Walsall
30407 now heading to Hayley Green, what's going on?
Probably heavy delays in walsall
2 4Hs in convoy
30213 departed merry hill 1805 (booked to do 1750 226)
20536 pulled into merry hill at 1908 on the 226...Only 25 down!
20511 has been running 10 down on the 142 for at least 3 hours
20605 this morning on the 226 was that late, he more than qualified for a Hansons running board (18 down!!)
and again...20536 thinking It's a Hansons Bus
Quote from: the trainbasher on May 14, 2015, 03:47:59 PM
and again...20536 thinking It's a Hansons Bus
This thread is full of you posting diamond 226 late workings. Ha ha
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 14, 2015, 05:40:25 PM
This thread is full of you posting diamond 226 late workings. Ha ha
I wonder why when 99% of the diamond trips I catch on the 226 are late!
Quote from: the trainbasher on May 14, 2015, 05:42:01 PM
I wonder why when 99% of the diamond trips I catch on the 226 are late!
Why's it so unreliable? The 4H only has 3 minute layover at Walsall and is no where near as often late as the 226
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 14, 2015, 05:43:23 PM
Why's it so unreliable? The 4H only has 3 minute layover at Walsall and is no where near as often late as the 226
Do you want a list Of reasons?
The route length
Holly Hall (Dudley bound)
Russells Hall Hospital (both ways)
Pensnett (both ways)
Crestwood School (merry hill bound)
Kingswinford (both ways)
Wordsley Cat (both ways)
Brierley Hill Road (Dudley bound)
Brierley hill (both ways)
Merry hill - asda island (Dudley bound)
Merry hill - bus station (especially when 3 other buses are on the unloading stand)
You can easy lose 15-20 minutes on one trip!
Quote from: the trainbasher on May 14, 2015, 05:50:47 PM
Do you want a list Of reasons?
The route length
Holly Hall (Dudley bound)
Russells Hall Hospital (both ways)
Pensnett (both ways)
Crestwood School (merry hill bound)
Kingswinford (both ways)
Wordsley Cat (both ways)
Brierley Hill Road (Dudley bound)
Brierley hill (both ways)
Merry hill - asda island (Dudley bound)
Merry hill - bus station (especially when 3 other buses are on the unloading stand)
You can easy lose 15-20 minutes on one trip!
Why can hansons stick to their timetable? The 4H is far longer and more problems and more reliable
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 14, 2015, 05:55:14 PM
Why can hansons stick to their timetable? The 4H is far longer and more problems and more reliable
Also it doesn't help with the hills half killing the solos meaning they struggle causing more delays
Quote from: the trainbasher on May 14, 2015, 05:57:32 PM
Also it doesn't help with the hills half killing the solos meaning they struggle causing more delays
I need to go on this route, bet it would be on time if the mad drivers on the 142 drove it. They go seriously fast
20223 just passed my on Hawbush Road qualifying for an Hansons running board - 15 down!
1752 142 departed Stourbridge 13 down
15:35 - 4A from Kidderminster Town Hall was running 45 mins late
06:00 16 from Hamstead either FTO or is 15 mins late
I'd assume the former, as 30509 passed me on Rocky Lane on me way down to the village and it was him that eventually turned up at gone quarter past
30203 just departed Halesowen on the 192...Only 20 minutes late!!
Quote from: Matt on May 28, 2015, 06:38:48 PM
The last 192 was often late under Whittle as it would get stuck in the traffic on Stourport Rd heading into Kiddy, however as Diamond only run Halesowen to Kiddy they do not have the same excuse
Ever bus that runs in or out of Kiddy is usually running late 20 mins is not to bad the other day the 4A was running 45 mins late!!
Sat in Hamstead Village for 25 mins this morning, 06:02 failed to show up, a Centro went up to the terminus but didn't come back, eventually gave up when the 06:23 NX 16A turned up 5 late (and a dart was just going the other way) and caught the train to work.
Now there's a novelty, I'm used to giving up on the train and catching the 16
20868 20 down on 1720 226 ex merry hill...yet arrived into merry hill 8 down thinking it was a 226W on the display?! Confused a bit!
Quote from: Matt on June 07, 2015, 05:15:07 PM
002 running over 20 mins late...went up drews holloway towards MH at 17:10.
Left halesowen at 1704
Quote from: Matt on June 07, 2015, 05:19:23 PM
Any idea why he's so late?
The 1706 off merry hill has just passed Belle Vale so I think he may have been early...
@Matt that's not late...That's route learning :)
Lots today
30408 and 30943 in convoy on 4H 30408 running 25 mins down
20605 broken down in Halesowen at 15:22 on 142
30211 came on 202 at 15:41
Apparently both buses on 202 have broken down during the day
An oo2 has broken down somewhere according to bus station supervisor
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/trident_4609/18519730598/
Does this count?
Quote from: Matt on June 14, 2015, 11:35:18 PM
20605 probably had a problem with 20202 as its replacement
I was only kidding however, 20605 was parked up for a while and 20202 came in with passengers on.
One of the S2/S4 buses running about 20-25 mins late.
On Saturday the 07:55 202 from Halesowen to Bromsgrove was a no show.
06:00 16 off Hamstead Village seems to be a no show again. How can a bus that comes straight from garage be consistently late?
Quote from: Kevin on September 01, 2015, 06:12:27 AMHow can a bus that comes straight from garage be consistently late?
Driver, bus or scheduling or all three issues to name but a few
Quote from: StourportSam on September 03, 2015, 09:08:10 AM
Driver, bus or scheduling or all three issues to name but a few
But consistently?
Even having transferred garage? (or hasn't the 16 gone yet?)
@Kevin the 16 has moved to Tividale from what I've heard
Quote from: the trainbasher on September 04, 2015, 03:04:40 PM
@Kevin the 16 has moved to Tividale from what I've heard
Yes it has one of the 13 plate B7RLE were on the 16 yesterday
20539 and 20867 both on the 226 in merry hill at 1500
4H this morning
Im yet to see a 142 running to timetable, that is an impossible timetable to complete in the short period
3 Diamond 16s passed me on Priory Queensway about 07:35
06:00 and 06:10 16s off Hamstead so far failed to show up (06:25)
Gave up and walked to the station for the train instead. While there I saw the next 2 NX journeys go over the bridge on time
4H failing to operate. Must be a 30 minute delay at least for each bus
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 18, 2015, 02:09:11 PM
4H failing to operate. Must be a 30 minute delay at least for each bus
Due to the gridlock in West Brom around the Bus Station
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 18, 2015, 02:09:11 PM
4H failing to operate. Must be a 30 minute delay at least for each bus
You use that term far to easily!
Two 002 running together at 17.50 towards Weoley castle near Newman College today
3 16s running in convoy this morning through town. A Streetlite was one of them and I'd put money on this being the one that was the latest of the 3
A 2 and 2L running in convoy this morning going past Baxter College heading into Kidderminster their supposed to be half an hour apart.
Quote from: Reece on January 27, 2016, 11:00:07 AM
A 2 and 2L running in convoy this morning going past Baxter College heading into Kidderminster their supposed to be half an hour.
heavy traffic on the comberton road and comberton hill being caused by the Worcester road roadworks traffic cutting through the spennels valley road to avoid build up on chester road south. this was at peak time , so that could have delayed one of them on there outbound run
At 10:05 this morning I saw a 2 and 2L running in convoy heading into Kidderminster there should be a half hour gap.
2 142s missing.
Both nx and diamond 4s were very late this morning.
16:35 4A Kidderminster Circular did not show up I presume the following 17:30 and 18:00 1 to Rifle Range did not show as it is the same bus because the 1 and 4A interwork.
The 7:08 142 from Halesowen turned up at 7:35 with the 7:48 on time.
2 142 in convoy this morning
First 68 of the day, already 15 late
And again.... 68 turns up at Perry Barr somehow on time for the second journey of the day and somehow from the direction of the route, blissfully unaware someone's still waiting here for the first journey
I wouldn't mind but the evening journeys are annoyingly reliable, this first morning run would be perfect for me to get to work if it a) actually ran and b) if it does, at least within 10 mins of the schedule
Quote from: Kevin on March 14, 2017, 08:07:41 AM
And again.... 68 turns up at Perry Barr somehow on time for the second journey of the day and somehow from the direction of the route, blissfully unaware someone's still waiting here for the first journey
I wouldn't mind but the evening journeys are annoyingly reliable, this first morning run would be perfect for me to get to work if it a) actually ran and b) if it does, at least within 10 mins of the schedule
Diamond late?! That never happens
@Kevin ;)
2 4Hs and 2 002s were in convoy earlier this morning
There were 3 diamond 4H in Convoy and 2 nx in convoy about 12:10
Was strange seeing the 108 still running at 11am today
12 broke down then got going again running 20 mins late
Two diamond 4Hs where running together in Halesowen towards Hayley Green at 8.15 this morning.
Diamond running in duos today on 4H
The 002 seems to be very screwed today
First 68A/C journey of the day today hadn't turned up at Perry Barr station bridge stop by 07:40 so went to get the train. Just as I gave up 21008 turned up, went round the island back to One Stop, round a 51 bus in the stop there, and back round again.
Thought I'd try catch it and just be late for work but no he came round the side of a 907 and onto the rest of the route.
All with no display up
Now on train
I give up with this bus
30809 arrived in merry hill at 15:27 for the 15:35 departure from merry hill.
30878 arrived in merry hill at 15:43 for the 15:50 sea parties from merry hill
30878 left 4 minutes late. And 30809 left 20+ minutes late overtaking 30878 in colley gate.
I have to say diamond really are slipping on the 002 regarding staying on time, and the drivers seem to not care about their timetable, driving extremely slowly.
I hope things change. The 4H without a doubt has the best drivers from diamond
What's a Sea Party?
3 diamond 4H in convoy left Halesowen at 9:40 for walsall
30854 and 30408 were in convoy on 002
First 68 of the day late again
He was on the Newton Road by Scott Arms at 07:35 when it was already meant to have left One Stop, would have easily been 15 late by the time the traffic got there
2 002's just arrived at Merry Hill together. Obviously not that good at time keeping eh
@Trident 4194
The diamond 4Hs were very bad today. 3 in convoy this morning
Quote from: Dom on October 20, 2017, 06:29:22 PM
2 002's just arrived at Merry Hill together. Obviously not that good at time keeping eh @Trident 4194
At least they can run ontime during the day
Whole trip of the 68 didn't run today, waited in Aston from 17:45 to 18:22
Driver immediately apologised and fair play to her but you get the feeling with some sort of real time info I wouldn't be playing the guessing game of "shall I give up and go home via town or pay for the train"
20010 running 25 mins late on this morning's 68A/C, not entirely sure what the point was running at all he could have just skipped the first journey
68 again
I'm looking forward to this real time thing Diamond will be providing, will take the guesswork out of my morning commute and I might actually get to work on time
Diamond 4Hs were running in convoys today- severe delays at the bottom of furnace hill
4H and 002 experiencing bad delays
Quote from: Kevin on November 23, 2017, 08:17:20 AM
68 again
I'm looking forward to this real time thing Diamond will be providing, will take the guesswork out of my morning commute and I might actually get to work on time
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 15, 2017, 10:46:43 AM
4H and 002 experiencing bad delays
WebsiteThe new Diamond Buses website went live on 14th Dec 2017.
Quote
The New Diamond Bus Website is here!
18 October 2017
West Midlands | North West | Worcester and Warwickshire
We have been working on some exciting changes to the Diamond Bus website, which will be of great benefit to passengers and we are pleased to announce its launch today!
http://www.diamondbuses.com/news/new-diamond-website/
Note the date of the news post.
The same news item on main News Board (http://www.diamondbuses.com/news/) has the title "The New Diamond Bus Website
and Mobile App are here!"
No mention of app in the news item - app not available on Android as yet.
TfWM app not reporting Diamond buses in realtime at present.
Bus TrackerYou can now track Diamond buses on a map.
http://www.diamondbuses.com/west-midlands/bus-tracker/
The Bus Tracker web page works ok on desktop computers/tablets, but is not mobile friendly - too much banner not enough screen space to display map. No doubt mobile users will need to wait for the app.
Only buses en route appear to track. If the bus is in layover at say the bus station, and is the only bus working the route (or the bus is not tracking), the map search for the route returns "no live data".
Bus Pins appear to be updated every 15 seconds
Note: While stops appear to be in the correct locations and bus pins follow the correct route, some routes are incorrectly plotted on the map. See routes that serve Wolverhampton city centre - such as 63 and 64. Route incorrectly plotted around Ring Road, but bus tracks correctly en route.
Overall, there are some glitches to iron out, but non the less a step in the right direction.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 15, 2017, 10:46:43 AM
4H and 002 experiencing bad delays
Yes, at the moment, according to their tracker there is no 4H south of Blackheath in either direction, so no 14:45 departure from hayley Green, or no 15:00, but that is probably because they are stuck in the same traffic problems as NX are getting stuck in around the Blackheath area, but according to you previously they used to magically miss all the traffic problems.
4H running 21 mins late or 9 mins early
30409 and another value bus in convoy on 4H. Both being driven extremely quickly.
No 4H north of West Brom. Severe delays. 2s and 3s according to tracker
Birchley island messed up again?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 30, 2018, 09:39:09 AM
No 4H north of West Brom. Severe delays. 2s and 3s according to tracker
Birchley island messed up again?
It's an RTC on Spon lane, West Bromwich which is screwing the whole area up
No early running thread?
1 bus north of West Brom according to tracker? What's happened here then?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 13, 2018, 09:02:11 AM
1 bus north of West Brom according to tracker? What's happened here then?
There are loads of buses North of West Bromwich, including all those in service in Wolverhampton
Quote from: Tony on February 13, 2018, 09:18:56 AM
There are loads of buses North of West Bromwich, including all those in service in Wolverhampton
4H sorry Tony
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 13, 2018, 09:31:25 AM
4H sorry Tony
Same as NX, service screwed up by congestion at Birchley Roundabout. 126 in chaos as well
Quote from: Tony on February 13, 2018, 09:32:38 AM
Same as NX, service screwed up by congestion at Birchley Roundabout. 126 in chaos as well
still got a long time for it to be back to normal too.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 13, 2018, 09:38:26 AM
still got a long time for it to be back to normal too.
That is why NX controllers will send buses out of service to fill gaps like that, but you were critisising them for doing that last week.
A few months ago before the tracker appeared you always thought Diamond buses 4H were on time, now perhaps you can see they regularly have the same problems NX do, but if their controller sees a 4H running 20 minutes late around Hasbury without another one near he is going to let it run late to minimise the gap in service, and to the ordinary observer it looks to be on time
Quote from: Tony on February 13, 2018, 09:45:25 AM
That is why NX controllers will send buses out of service to fill gaps like that, but you were critisising them for doing that last week.
A few months ago before the tracker appeared you always thought Diamond buses 4H were on time, now perhaps you can see they regularly have the same problems NX do, but if their controller sees a 4H running 20 minutes late around Hasbury without another one near he is going to let it run late to minimise the gap in service, and to the ordinary observer it looks to be on time
But the 9 has very different loading to the 4H. A 4H could not turn up for 25-30 mins and the bus would probably still have seats left. On the 9 a 15-20 minute gap causes overcrowding and for an uncomfortable journey. I wasn't moaning about NIS buses I was moaning about from a selfish point of view that a bus carrying 0 passengers and a bus carrying about 40 is not what I call comfort
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 13, 2018, 10:20:58 AM
But the 9 has very different loading to the 4H. A 4H could not turn up for 25-30 mins and the bus would probably still have seats left. On the 9 a 15-20 minute gap causes overcrowding and for an uncomfortable journey. I wasn't moaning about NIS buses I was moaning about from a selfish point of view that a bus carrying 0 passengers and a bus carrying about 40 is not what I call comfort
So, you have just said you prefer other people to not have a bus because one with 37 empty is uncomfortable
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 13, 2018, 10:20:58 AM
But the 9 has very different loading to the 4H. A 4H could not turn up for 25-30 mins and the bus would probably still have seats left. On the 9 a 15-20 minute gap causes overcrowding and for an uncomfortable journey. I wasn't moaning about NIS buses I was moaning about from a selfish point of view that a bus carrying 0 passengers and a bus carrying about 40 is not what I call comfort
But you get the the overcrowding regardless of whether the bus is late or not I.e. certain journeys when the school / college kids pile on & in the peaks all due to demand. The quicker buses get turned NIS to re-pick up service to plug the gaps the quicker the service returns to a regular headway & capacity can be spread more equally.
Traffic & gridlock as a result of an accident / incident / roadworks / bad weather or kids being at school varies journey times widely. A journey I do to a clients K'ford to Smethwick 12.5 miles takes anywhere from 35 mins to 2 hours, that involves going along, over or under the M5. You can't plan for that!
One of the 50's heading towards the Maypole is very late according to the tracker.
"50
58 mins late
Towards: Howard Rd, King's Heath
Departed: 15:46
Last updated: 17:08
Vehicle ref:30850"
And one in the City Centre is 66 minutes late.
"50
66 mins late
Departed: 15:58
Last updated: 17:43
Vehicle ref:30160"
Just seen that the tracker no longer tells whether the bus is ontime, or late and early and how long by.
Quote from: 2206 on February 16, 2018, 05:06:12 PM
Just seen that the tracker no longer tells whether the bus is ontime, or late and early and how long by.
Probably because of the armchair complainers sitting in their houses moaning about buses being late when they had no intention of going out an catching a bus.
Same on here with people moaning/pointing out poor allocations from their computer screen. If it starts costing the company any money expect fleet numbers may disappear
Quote from: Tony on February 16, 2018, 07:14:14 PM
Probably because of the armchair complainers sitting in their houses moaning about buses being late when they had no intention of going out an catching a bus.
Same on here with people moaning/pointing out poor allocations from their computer screen. If it starts costing the company any money expect fleet numbers may disappear
Some of the allocations on the tracker are wrong anyway, like when someone pointed out a Redditch Solo was on a Tividale route the other day. The wrong fleet number being selected when signing into the ticket machine causes this.
Quote from: MW on February 16, 2018, 07:27:21 PM
Some of the allocations on the tracker are wrong anyway, like when someone pointed out a Redditch Solo was on a Tividale route the other day. The wrong fleet number being selected when signing into the ticket machine causes this.
Yeah exactly 30929 was showing on the tracker yet 30407 turned up
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 16, 2018, 07:51:16 PM
Yeah exactly 30929 was showing on the tracker yet 30407 turned up
The tracker was showing 20001 on three different routes today!
20023 is showing as been used in service but the bus itself is withdrawn and dumped at Tividale.
Hasn't been a city bound Diamond 16 in Hamstead Village for about half an hour, only specifically waiting for one instead of the many NX buses gone by because I've still got ages to get to work, but getting silly that NX can be relatively close to schedule and Diamond nowhere near
Meanwhile it seems the entire PVR has gone the other way either as 16 or 16W
142 now constantly late in a morning sometimes by 25 minutes. Strange how central could keep it on time
Earlier the 226 went to pot when two vehicles broke down Dudley
Birch tree island?? must have messed up both diamond and nx 4H again tonight
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 08, 2018, 05:42:38 PM
Birch tree island?? must have messed up both diamond and nx 4H again tonight
It's Birchley Island, not Birch Tree Island. Makes a change to hear the Diamond 4H is running late.
Quote from: Jack on March 09, 2018, 07:00:11 PM
It's Birchley Island, not Birch Tree Island. Makes a change to hear the Diamond 4H is running late.
Stop with your snide comments. If you read I said nx and diamond :)
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 09, 2018, 07:47:15 PM
Stop with your snide comments. If you read I said nx and diamond :)
I did see you said both operators, just pointing out that it's unusual for saying Diamond are late. ;)
Quote from: Jack on March 09, 2018, 10:31:14 PM
I did see you said both operators, just pointing out that it's unusual for saying Diamond are late. ;)
I tell you what go on the diamond 4H from West Brom towards Hayley green about 15:00- guarantee it leaves West Brom on time and ends up 40 minutes late by the time you reach blackheath
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 10, 2018, 07:59:49 AM
I tell you what go on the diamond 4H from West Brom towards Hayley green about 15:00- guarantee it leaves West Brom on time and ends up 40 minutes late by the time you reach blackheath
I know where any why they end up late. I've been in traffic there before on NX and Diamond.
Waited an hour for an 002 at Merry Hill then 2 turned up. Did they get stuck somewhere?
I just missed the 17:20 bus but for some reason another appear just after but left right away without coming over or anything.
Quote from: MasterPlan on March 29, 2018, 06:22:50 PM
Waited an hour for an 002 at Merry Hill then 2 turned up. Did they get stuck somewhere?
I just missed the 17:20 bus but for some reason another appear just after but left right away without coming over or anything.
I believe most of the West Midlands is very gridlocked. 4H also running extremely late and so are routes such as 13 and 231.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 29, 2018, 06:33:15 PM
I believe most of the West Midlands is very gridlocked.
How on earth would you know that? 😂
Traffic bad in Blackheath?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 05, 2018, 01:17:19 PM
Traffic bad in Blackheath?
Have you forgotten the M5 Viaduct over Oldbury is having work done and that Birchley Island is an absolute joke to travel through with all the traffic? The queues of traffic are worse around there atm.
Quote from: Jack on April 05, 2018, 01:45:31 PM
Have you forgotten the M5 Viaduct over Oldbury is having work done and that Birchley Island is an absolute joke to travel through with all the traffic? The queues of traffic are worse around there atm.
No problems at Birchley Crossing. The problems are in the Blackheath area
Quote from: Tony on April 05, 2018, 01:59:02 PM
No problems at Birchley Crossing. The problems are in the Blackheath area
Resurfacing of Coombs hill maybe
Here's one for you
@Trident 4194 , 2 Diamond 4Hs at Sandwell & Dudley now, both Walsall bound.
Two 002s running together on Spies Lane towards Weoley Castle at 6pm today
16's are a mess. 30002 and 3085* following each other.
Quote from: Jack on June 08, 2018, 06:36:46 PM
16's are a mess. 30002 and 3085* following each other.
16 / 16W provide a 10 minute combined frequency. Two together hardly makes the service a mess.
30941 only 18 mins late on 4H went from Hayley green terminus- terminated here and said he was going along the bypass and dual carriageway of manor way bit I presume
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 04, 2018, 08:12:40 PM
30941 only 18 mins late on 4H went from Hayley green terminus- terminated here and said he was going along the bypass and dual carriageway of manor way bit I presume
Finally it's not NX.
17:00 16W from West Brom left 15 late
And with the roadworks by Sandwell hospital its eventually hit the Newton Road 25 late
Quote from: Kevin on July 17, 2018, 05:16:17 PM
17:00 16W from West Brom left 15 late
And with the roadworks by Sandwell hospital its eventually hit the Newton Road 25 late
Well there was a B7RLE on the 16W yesterday that was crawling up Hamstead hill. Cough good maintenance.
Today's 142 has missed out a number of journeys
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 18, 2018, 12:23:06 PM
Well there was a B7RLE on the 16W yesterday that was crawling up Hamstead hill. Cough good maintenance.
Some of our buses crawl up Hamstead Hill too. Doesn't mean it is anything to do with maintenance
Two 16Ws left West Brom together 10:55
First 13 of the day running 40 minutes late
54s running in twos. Not great for a 30 min freq service
Quite a few missing trips of part of the route today on the 4H
4s running an hour late
4Hs running 20-55 mins late.
229 turned up in Bilston around 20 late, gonna miss the train now, thanks Diamond. At least it's 30002, decent bus apart from its squeaky wipers.
Quote from: StourValley98 on December 21, 2018, 03:55:09 PM
229 turned up in Bilston around 20 late, gonna miss the train now, thanks Diamond. At least it's 30002, decent bus apart from its squeaky wipers.
The 82s were over an hour late. The 81's the same. Not just Diamond now. I was in Roseville and 30002 was the next bus due through, ended up getting 4364(?) on the 82, 64 mins late, passed a B7 on an 82E to Roseville.
The 1430, 1500 and 1530 81's hadn't turned up by the point that 4364 turned up.
What's happened to to the 002 and 4H tonight??
Road resurfacing works near Harvills Hawthorn are causing slight delays to the 30.
4Hs very late this evening.
4 4Hs running in convoy currently in blackheath. I suppose that's what happens when you put a 10 minute frequency alongside a stupidly tight timetable
32332 on service 27 should have been on the 0920 from Wolverhampton to Dudley. Instead it started from Sedgley at 1000, 17 minutes late.
Quote from: Rachvince53 on January 15, 2023, 11:10:09 AM32332 on service 27 should have been on the 0920 from Wolverhampton to Dudley. Instead it started from Sedgley at 1000, 17 minutes late.
I assume you mean 32233 or 32322? There's no 32332.
Quote from: winston on January 15, 2023, 11:34:22 AMI assume you mean 32233 or 32322? There's no 32332.
Sorry yes I meant 32322, typo sorry.
Any of the Diamond services that used Bewdley Hill/Bewdley Road were heavily delayed both today and Tuesday because of the sheer number of people trying to get into the West Midlands Safari Park. When I drove through today I saw a 125 and 8 in the jam, as well as a Yarrantons' 291.
Quote from: ellspurs on February 24, 2023, 05:46:52 PMAny of the Diamond services that used Bewdley Hill/Bewdley Road were heavily delayed both today and Tuesday because of the sheer number of people trying to get into the West Midlands Safari Park. When I drove through today I saw a 125 and 8 in the jam, as well as a Yarrantons' 291.
Surely Diamond knows when the school holidays are and it could have been easier to adjust times or WMSP needs to employ marshalls to keep traffic flowing along the Kidderminster Road
Quote from: Ginger66 on February 25, 2023, 04:03:32 PMSurely Diamond knows when the school holidays are and it could have been easier to adjust times or WMSP needs to employ marshalls to keep traffic flowing along the Kidderminster Road
Not sure if WMSP marshalls could legally control traffic on a public highway, that would surely be a police job. As for Diamond, a notice on buses and at key stops stating that buses could be delayed wouldn't be remiss.
45 and 16A are a mess, no 45's have arrived in West Brom for almost an hour. 32261 has arrived and is now NIS.
Looking at Bustimes, Hallam Street has a few buses stuck on it.
Two Diamond 4H's following each other around Hasbury at Midday (32124 & 32134)
16A's are a mess. Loads of people at West Brom moaning and saying they want the 46 back. I can agree, the 16A for reliability is shocking. Every person has said 'why take off a service that's been going for years and always carried lots of people?'
Least Diamond have an inspector at the bus station stand to help, unlike NX...
Quote16A's are a mess. Loads of people at West Brom moaning and saying they want the 46 back. I can agree, the 16A for reliability is shocking. Every person has said 'why take off a service that's been going for years and always carried lots of people?'
Least Diamond have an inspector at the bus station stand to help, unlike NX...
3 way temp lights at Hamstead Village causing the delays
Quote from: John on August 08, 2023, 02:27:43 PM3 way temp lights at Hamstead Village causing the delays
Those and there's also 4 way temp lights at Handsworth Park.
3 002s coming into Weoley Castle within the space of about 3 mins, 2 of them together.
Quote from: MasterPlan on September 04, 2023, 06:05:20 PM3 002s coming into Weoley Castle within the space of about 3 mins, 2 of them together.
Ahaha sign of the schools going back or the withdrawal of streetdecks?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 04, 2023, 10:20:59 PMAhaha sign of the schools going back or the withdrawal of streetdecks?
Well two of them were streetdecks.
Anything going off in Bilston at the moment, apart from probable heavy traffic?
The 1506 326 from Bilston has only just reached Willenhall, despite, according to Bustimes only leaving 4 minutes late!
Take a look at 20051!
(Or is it a technical issue?)
The 1536(my usual bus) is still in Bilston currently, if Bustimes is right!
Quote from: Westy on October 06, 2023, 03:50:37 PMAnything going off in Bilston at the moment, apart from probable heavy traffic?
The 1506 326 from Bilston has only just reached Willenhall, despite, according to Bustimes only leaving 4 minutes late!
Take a look at 20051!
(Or is it a technical issue?)
The 1536(my usual bus) is still in Bilston currently, if Bustimes is right!
Looking at the historical tracking of a number of buses, it seems to have been a problem in Portobello.
Quote from: Jack on August 08, 2023, 12:40:18 PM16A's are a mess. Loads of people at West Brom moaning and saying they want the 46 back. I can agree, the 16A for reliability is shocking. Every person has said 'why take off a service that's been going for years and always carried lots of people?'
Least Diamond have an inspector at the bus station stand to help, unlike NX...
NX do have inspectors at West Bromwich
Quote from: Rachvince53 on October 06, 2023, 05:53:13 PMLooking at the historical tracking of a number of buses, it seems to have been a problem in Portobello.
It seems to be a regular problem lately.
At the time of writing according to Bustimes, the 1455 from Bloxwich has arrived in Bilston several minutes late & is sitting in the Bus Station, instead of coming straight out to run the late 1536 to Bloxwich.
I suspect, as this has also happened recently, this bus will become the 1610 to Bloxwich instead.
Is the driver actually taking a break at this point, or is there an actual problem with the bus?
Edit : Bus stuck in Bilston BS now disappeared from Bustimes.
Looks like all 326's are running late!
QuoteIt seems to be a regular problem lately.
At the time of writing according to Bustimes, the 1455 from Bloxwich has arrived in Bilston several minutes late & is sitting in the Bus Station, instead of coming straight out to run the late 1536 to Bloxwich.
I suspect, as this has also happened recently, this bus will become the 1610 to Bloxwich instead.
Is the driver actually taking a break at this point, or is there an actual problem with the bus?
Edit : Bus stuck in Bilston BS now disappeared from Bustimes.
Looks like all 326's are running late!
I would rather the driver have a break and be rested ready to start the next trip late than rush round and possibly have an accident because they have been driving for too long without any sort of break, however frustrating it might be
Are you looking into the reliability issues off the 4H and 002
@Simon Dunn I know roadworks are an issue but I don't think hardly any 002s have done the full route...
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 09, 2023, 07:07:33 PMAre you looking into the reliability issues off the 4H and 002 @Simon Dunn
I know roadworks are an issue but I don't think hardly any 002s have done the full route...
I see 30 minute communication from our depot Supervisors and daily information from our inspectors. We have a number of roadworks challenges primarily around West Brom which is affecting a number of services.
I am not aware that the 002 route is being cut short. Do you have any specifics around this?
Simon
Quote from: Simon Dunn on November 12, 2023, 06:43:51 AMI see 30 minute communication from our depot Supervisors and daily information from our inspectors. We have a number of roadworks challenges primarily around West Brom which is affecting a number of services.
I am not aware that the 002 route is being cut short. Do you have any specifics around this?
Simon
Look at most the 002 journeys from last week. Especially around 3pm onwards
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 09, 2023, 07:07:33 PMAre you looking into the reliability issues off the 4H and 002 @Simon Dunn
I know roadworks are an issue but I don't think hardly any 002s have done the full route...
The 4H it's not diamonds fault of the late running, the new West Midlands bus partnership on the route has really messed both company's up, both companies are dealing with late buses, every single bus on the 4,4H and 4M are very busy standing load, hopefully something is done by TFWM do help this weather it's adding more buses or changing the route slightly to allow double deckers on the route. Doubles are allowed to go under Sandwell and Dudley bridge as Sandwell council did put it on Facebook the change will not affect buses as buses are expempt but I guess bus companies don't want to risk it. Even though I do see some diamond and national express go under there on dead runs. The 4s could definitely do with double deckers especially on mornings and afternoon/evening Monday to Friday. But it's not a company issue as such as both companies are getting high capacity and then with traffic it don't help things hopefully TFWM consider on doing something to help this out.
Quote from: Wba_lad on November 28, 2023, 02:29:03 PMThe 4H it's not diamonds fault of the late running, the new West Midlands bus partnership on the route has really messed both company's up, both companies are dealing with late buses, every single bus on the 4,4H and 4M are very busy standing load, hopefully something is done by TFWM do help this weather it's adding more buses or changing the route slightly to allow double deckers on the route. Doubles are allowed to go under Sandwell and Dudley bridge as Sandwell council did put it on Facebook the change will not affect buses as buses are expempt but I guess bus companies don't want to risk it. Even though I do see some diamond and national express go under there on dead runs. The 4s could definitely do with double deckers especially on mornings and afternoon/evening Monday to Friday. But it's not a company issue as such as both companies are getting high capacity and then with traffic it don't help things hopefully TFWM consider on doing something to help this out.
No matter what Sandwell say Deckers shouldn't be passing under the bridge with it having a red circle! Which is an order.
QuoteNo matter what Sandwell say Deckers shouldn't be passing under the bridge with it having a red circle! Which is an order.
Unless the TRO has an exemption for them?
Quote from: the trainbasher on November 29, 2023, 01:38:57 PMUnless the TRO has an exemption for them?
Wouldn't you think if there was NX would be able to send Deckers there still?
Quote from: Jack on November 29, 2023, 02:28:04 PMWouldn't you think if there was NX would be able to send Deckers there still?
Well actually there is an exemption on the TRO, but it's not a good idea to tell drivers they can ignore one sign but not identical ones elsewhere
3 4Hs within 10 minutes of each other In Hayley green. What are the issues
@Simon Dunn ??
We've gone from 7 buses to 3 buses with an hour gap in service
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 06, 2023, 02:48:26 PM3 4Hs within 10 minutes of each other In Hayley green. What are the issues @Simon Dunn ??
We've gone from 7 buses to 3 buses with an hour gap in service
I saw that too, with a 4th not that far behind either.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 06, 2023, 02:48:26 PM3 4Hs within 10 minutes of each other In Hayley green. What are the issues @Simon Dunn ??
We've gone from 7 buses to 3 buses with an hour gap in service
We are highly frustrated with the number and impact of short term road works. On most of the services, we have emergency road works which is causing major disruption.
On the back of this, we have asked for a discussion with the Authorities creating this problem.
20739 late running by 15 mins on the 1505 326 to Bloxwich.
(Just missed it!)
Lets hope my usual 1536 is running.
Not sure if this counts, but 247 would get to bidford around 50 minutes late on average. This was due to bidford bridge being shut and happened from around the second to the fifth of this month.
Is there anything happening in Bilston, as 20887, supposedly doing the 1536 326 to Bloxwich, according to Bustimes, has got as far as Bunkers Hill & decided to return to Bilston!
I suspect vehicle has broken down though personally?
30703 running late on the 326.
The 1506 from Bilston departed 10 mins late & I managed to catch it,in Willenhall, rather than waiting for the 1536 to turn up!
Looking at Bustimes, looks like it had a problem early on, on its journey into Bilston.