Just like the other garage threads post any WN related posts in here.
581 at WN
What are 554, 581 & 582 due to be replacing?
excels??
Quote from: dgss1 on July 21, 2013, 02:29:42 PM
excels??
All the Excels have already gone, they just appear to be extra buses for WN at the moment.
Would be nice to see some of WNs Tridents at PE, maybe 4605 - 4609 ;D ;D ;D ;D
My mother is asking if i can go for a visit on thursday next week woop woop what do they let you do when you go for a vist do they let you sit in the cabs and all that
Quote from: domino.99 on July 21, 2013, 04:05:45 PM
My mother is asking if i can go for a visit on thursday next week woop woop what do they let you do when you go for a vist do they let you sit in the cabs and all that
I did this in April and yes they let you sit in the cabs and even change the destination displays. You neeed to write a letter first then they send you a letter back to tell you if you can visit.
Domino99 you need to ask for Matthew Jukes if you want to go to WN garage.
When i went they even let me Get in the cab of 5418 before it entered passenger service.
Quote from: domino.99 on July 21, 2013, 04:05:45 PM
My mother is asking if i can go for a visit on thursday next week woop woop what do they let you do when you go for a vist do they let you sit in the cabs and all that
I will message you the details in a second Dom if thats ok?
Quote from: dgss1 on July 21, 2013, 02:29:42 PM
excels??
Excels are long gone replaced by our current B6's at WN with the final one 697 being replaced by 586 from Coventry
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 21, 2013, 05:49:37 PM
Quote from: dgss1 on July 21, 2013, 02:29:42 PM
excels??
Excels are long gone replaced by our current B6's at WN with the final one 697 being replaced by 586 from Coventry
I think you mean 687
Quote from: Winston on July 21, 2013, 06:25:29 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 21, 2013, 05:49:37 PM
Quote from: dgss1 on July 21, 2013, 02:29:42 PM
excels??
Excels are long gone replaced by our current B6's at WN with the final one 697 being replaced by 586 from Coventry
I think you mean 687
Yes sorry typo error thanks;) I did indeed mean 687
Are there any optare excels or solos left in w'ton garage
Quote from: domino.99 on July 21, 2013, 07:28:29 PM
Are there any optare excels or solos left in w'ton garage
Not anymore. There is one solo which is parked at the back taken apart for scrap though!
Solo's were withdrawn (Some went up to NX Dundee) in February replaced by B6's and The last few Excels were withdrawn last month
Oh dam really wanted to get in a optare bus obviously you have the spectras but im not to keen on them
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 21, 2013, 07:40:09 PM
Quote from: domino.99 on July 21, 2013, 07:37:20 PM
Oh dam really wanted to get in a optare bus obviously you have the spectras but im not to keen on them
Well when i went to the garage i had my favourite bus in the whole fleet (4609), Favourite Spectra 4019 (Sounds very much like a Metrobus) plus E400H 5418 all parke up next to each other in which i programmed Route 59 into ;D
You say 'programmed in' - you typed '59' into the Deric+ console?
lol my favourite buses are
Trident 4586 &4569 (4569 just because of the stopping sign)
Excel 708 (because i got on it one day to merry hill on the 583 and back again)
b6 581 (because it used to go past my house the route 581 that is)
b7rle 2021 first one i got on back from school on the 82
spectra 4017 one i got on on the 82 back from school
Yes sorry rat ;) Don't know why i said 'programmed in'?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 21, 2013, 07:51:57 PM
Yes sorry rat ;) Don't know why i said 'programmed in'?
Lol
Ashmore Park 59
Via Wedesfield
Quote from: domino.99 on July 21, 2013, 07:57:10 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 21, 2013, 07:51:57 PM
Yes sorry rat ;) Don't know why i said 'programmed in'?
Lol
Ashmore Park 59
Via Wedesfield
Got a picture somewhere of it somewhere of the 3 buses all displaying 59
Has 582 transferred to WN yet as i am not aware of it transferring? I have it as 554/555/581 as transferring so far
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 21, 2013, 08:00:40 PM
Has 582 transferred to WN yet as i am not aware of it transferring? I have it as 554/555/581 as transferring so far
Yeah i saw it on the 82 on wednesday
I wander what bus we will have on the 82 tomorrow
Quote from: domino.99 on July 21, 2013, 08:15:55 PM
I wander what bus we will have on the 82 tomorrow
Mercs as usual ::)
:( why not give us a f****** b7rle or a b6 or spectra or somet else
Quote from: domino.99 on July 21, 2013, 08:37:37 PM
:( why not give us a f****** b7rle or a b6 or spectra or somet else
Well you never know there could be a B6,B7RLE or maybe a trident?
7208 is still parked at park lane last i was told and for reference the cannabalised Solo is 294
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on July 22, 2013, 12:11:43 AM
7208 is still parked at park lane last i was told and for reference the cannabalised Solo is 294
Yes it is
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 22, 2013, 07:21:20 AM
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on July 22, 2013, 12:11:43 AM
7208 is still parked at park lane last i was told and for reference the cannabalised Solo is 294
Yes it is
Lads they both went to the scrapyard over 6 weeks ago!
Quote from: domino.99 on July 21, 2013, 08:07:03 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 21, 2013, 08:00:40 PM
Has 582 transferred to WN yet as i am not aware of it transferring? I have it as 554/555/581 as transferring so far
Yeah i saw it on the 82 on wednesday
582 is still at PE
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 22, 2013, 06:26:55 PM
Quote from: BN on July 22, 2013, 05:45:15 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 22, 2013, 07:21:20 AM
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on July 22, 2013, 12:11:43 AM
7208 is still parked at park lane last i was told and for reference the cannabalised Solo is 294
Yes it is
Lads they both went to the scrapyard over 6 weeks ago!
Thanks! I wouldn't be aware of that so no need for the attitude
Please explain what is wrong with my attitude?
Anybody noticed 4001 out on the road Friday and today?
Quote from: BN on July 22, 2013, 08:37:36 PM
Anybody noticed 4001 out on the road Friday and today?
Sorry i must of took your previous comment wrong. It just seemed you were telling me as if should've known 294 was sent for scrap.
Anyway back on topic was 4001 in service BN?
Yes back in service now
Quote from: BN on July 22, 2013, 09:05:49 PM
Yes back in service now
Do you know which route? Was it on the 59 today?
508 now at WN.
Think it was bunged on a school
Quote from: BN on July 22, 2013, 09:08:02 PM
508 now at WN.
Why are WN gaining all these extra B6's from PN?
Quote from: BN on July 22, 2013, 09:08:02 PM
508 now at WN.
So its 508,554.555 and 581 at WN? Will 544 and 582 also transfer over from PN?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 22, 2013, 09:10:34 PM
Quote from: BN on July 22, 2013, 09:08:02 PM
508 now at WN.
Why are WN gaining all these extra B6's from PN?
Its odd because WN don't seem to be loosing any buses, are they just going to gather all the WN & PE B6s together and see which are best and take it from there.
544 is still at PE (243/4 today) and 582 is reported still to be at the garage.
Quote from: BN on July 22, 2013, 09:05:49 PM
Yes back in service now
Great! I've been waiting for that.
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on July 22, 2013, 09:22:58 PM
Quote from: BN on July 22, 2013, 09:05:49 PM
Yes back in service now
Great! I've been waiting for that.
Should be back on the 59 soon then which i will look out for! :)
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 22, 2013, 09:26:23 PM
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on July 22, 2013, 09:22:58 PM
Quote from: BN on July 22, 2013, 09:05:49 PM
Yes back in service now
Great! I've been waiting for that.
Should be back on the 59 soon then which i will look out for! :)
Please let me know when it is on there.
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on July 22, 2013, 09:33:48 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 22, 2013, 09:26:23 PM
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on July 22, 2013, 09:22:58 PM
Quote from: BN on July 22, 2013, 09:05:49 PM
Yes back in service now
Great! I've been waiting for that.
Should be back on the 59 soon then which i will look out for! :)
Well i finish school for the 6 weeks at 11:35 tommorow and should be out and about for the rest of the week so iwill let you know :)
Please let me know when it is on there.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 22, 2013, 09:38:55 PM
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on July 22, 2013, 09:33:48 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 22, 2013, 09:26:23 PM
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on July 22, 2013, 09:22:58 PM
Quote from: BN on July 22, 2013, 09:05:49 PM
Yes back in service now
Great! I've been waiting for that.
Should be back on the 59 soon then which i will look out for! :)
Well i finish school for the 6 weeks at 11:35 tommorow and should be out and about for the rest of the week so iwill let you know :)
Please let me know when it is on there.
Thanks. 11:35 seems like an odd time anyway.
I don't think 582 will not withdrawn! Possible 582 will transferred to WN as soon because there are very good condition.
Quote from: 6013 on July 22, 2013, 10:10:53 PM
I don't think 582 will not withdrawn! Possible 582 will transferred to WN as soon because there are very good condition.
You have no idea what condition either PN or WN B6s are in, you have never been underneath and looked
Quote from: Tony on July 22, 2013, 10:17:34 PM
Quote from: 6013 on July 22, 2013, 10:10:53 PM
I don't think 582 will not withdrawn! Possible 582 will transferred to WN as soon because there are very good condition.
You have no idea what condition either PN or WN B6s are in, you have never been underneath and looked
Oh right! I hope 582 should not withdrawn! I would like 584 move to WN from WB.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 22, 2013, 09:17:23 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 22, 2013, 09:10:34 PM
Quote from: BN on July 22, 2013, 09:08:02 PM
508 now at WN.
Why are WN gaining all these extra B6's from PN?
Its odd because WN don't seem to be loosing any buses, are they just going to gather all the WN & PE B6s together and see which are best and take it from there.
544 is still at PE (243/4 today) and 582 is reported still to be at the garage.
You may find the allocation is being increased temporarily to cover the V Festival work, once that is complete you may well see buses being transferred out or withdrawn then
Do the latest transfers from PE to WN have WN Blinds now fitted?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 22, 2013, 11:51:21 PM
Do the latest transfers from PE to WN have WN Blinds now fitted?
Yes they do. I saw 555 only a few days after transfer in service with full blinds
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on July 22, 2013, 10:09:01 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 22, 2013, 09:38:55 PM
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on July 22, 2013, 09:33:48 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 22, 2013, 09:26:23 PM
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on July 22, 2013, 09:22:58 PM
Quote from: BN on July 22, 2013, 09:05:49 PM
Yes back in service now
Great! I've been waiting for that.
11:35 is the time for start of lunch at Wednesfield High School.
Should be back on the 59 soon then which i will look out for! :)
Well i finish school for the 6 weeks at 11:35 tommorow and should be out and about for the rest of the week so iwill let you know :)
Please let me know when it is on there.
Thanks. 11:35 seems like an odd time anyway.
Posted on the Yahoo Groups forum: 4001 finally back in service on the 11 today.
Quote from: Mike K on July 23, 2013, 11:25:03 PM
Posted on the Yahoo Groups forum: 4001 finally back in service on the 11 today.
Yay! Might have to wonder up to Wolves on Saturday to see it
Quote from: Mike K on July 23, 2013, 11:25:03 PM
Posted on the Yahoo Groups forum: 4001 finally back in service on the 11 today.
Spotted it being driven by engineer on the Wolverhampton Ring Road going back to Park Lane around 20:15
Quote from: Kevin on July 24, 2013, 07:31:38 AM
Quote from: Mike K on July 23, 2013, 11:25:03 PM
Posted on the Yahoo Groups forum: 4001 finally back in service on the 11 today.
Yay! Might have to wonder up to Wolves on Saturday to see it
Nice to hear its back out ;D
4001 on the 59 this afternoon :)
4001 back out....4002 back in :)
Poor 4002 in out in out...shake it all about :o
Why is that bus always seams to be in service and next day back in the garage, out for a few days...back in the garage is it due to lack of chairs in the traffic office? ;D
I've heard 1678 is now at Walsall being repainted into Cov livery. WN are supposedly set to loose our Mercs, that will no doubt what B6s are replacing.
I thought they would go to a garage (PE,CV or WB) to replace older mercs so makes more sense.
Surely we will only lose a few as we have only had a few B6's from PE
4001 is on the 59 today if anyone wants to ride it. I will try and catch it at some point today
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 27, 2013, 12:11:32 PM
I thought they would go to a garage (PE,CV or WB) to replace older mercs so makes more sense.
Surely we will only lose a few as we have only had a few B6's from PE
Not entirely sure how accurate this is but I hear 50-60% are leaving us to be replaced with smaller buses. B6s certainly fit that bill 8)
Quote from: Driver03 on July 27, 2013, 11:43:25 AM
I've heard 1678 is now at Walsall being repainted into Cov livery. WN are supposedly set to loose our Mercs, that will no doubt what B6s are replacing.
Nice to hear! I think 1678 replace 2153 or any of 4415-4424. 4415-4424 still out in service and red stick on windscreen say" Don't move the vehicle!"
Quote from: 6013 on July 27, 2013, 04:31:36 PM
Quote from: Driver03 on July 27, 2013, 11:43:25 AM
I've heard 1678 is now at Walsall being repainted into Cov livery. WN are supposedly set to loose our Mercs, that will no doubt what B6s are replacing.
Nice to hear! I think 1678 replace 2153 or any of 4415-4424. 4415-4424 still out in service and red stick on windscreen say" Don't move the vehicle!"
I don't think all 10 of 4415-4424 will be off the road at the same time. Might be a replacement for 2153 if that is joining a WM garage, or an older O405N
Quote from: John on July 27, 2013, 06:17:59 PM
Quote from: 6013 on July 27, 2013, 04:31:36 PM
Quote from: Driver03 on July 27, 2013, 11:43:25 AM
I've heard 1678 is now at Walsall being repainted into Cov livery. WN are supposedly set to loose our Mercs, that will no doubt what B6s are replacing.
Nice to hear! I think 1678 replace 2153 or any of 4415-4424. 4415-4424 still out in service and red stick on windscreen say" Don't move the vehicle!"
I don't think all 10 of 4415-4424 will be off the road at the same time. Might be a replacement for 2153 if that is joining a WM garage, or an older O405N
I would think they will use them to replace older mercs. Plus it hasn't been stated that all WN mercs transferring will go to CV
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 27, 2013, 12:12:47 PM
4001 is on the 59 today if anyone wants to ride it. I will try and catch it at some point today
Never managed to get a ride today. Did anyone else catch or see 4001 on the 59 today?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 27, 2013, 06:21:15 PM
Plus it hasn't been stated that all WN mercs transferring will go to CV
No one has said that they are
Quote from: John on July 27, 2013, 06:24:35 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 27, 2013, 06:21:15 PM
Plus it hasn't been stated that all WN mercs transferring will go to CV
No one has said that they are
Sorry misread the posts. Thats skim reading for you;)
i spotted it in wednesfield between 11/12 today
What would be the point in sending the WN Mercs to CV anyway, they would all need painting which Simon said the other night wasn't worth it as they do not have much time left?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 27, 2013, 06:21:15 PM
Quote from: John on July 27, 2013, 06:17:59 PM
Quote from: 6013 on July 27, 2013, 04:31:36 PM
Quote from: Driver03 on July 27, 2013, 11:43:25 AM
I've heard 1678 is now at Walsall being repainted into Cov livery. WN are supposedly set to loose our Mercs, that will no doubt what B6s are replacing.
Nice to hear! I think 1678 replace 2153 or any of 4415-4424. 4415-4424 still out in service and red stick on windscreen say" Don't move the vehicle!"
I don't think all 10 of 4415-4424 will be off the road at the same time. Might be a replacement for 2153 if that is joining a WM garage, or an older O405N
I would think they will use them to replace older mercs. Plus it hasn't been stated that all WN mercs transferring will go to CV
No! Coventry garage won't get a more double decker! Last Monday, 1547,1548,1608, and 1612 still old livery and been new logo! That won't start withdrawn soon. You should find reason of up to 8 4415-4424 hasn't service on from 21st July till present! Yesterday, I saw 4422 has no show display because of maybe removed battery but last Monday, tuesday, wednesday,Thursday 4422 still show display say " 6 Little Health" but yesterday doesn't show more likely removed battery.
Quote from: mranon on July 27, 2013, 07:02:25 PM
i spotted it in wednesfield between 11/12 today
I was in Wednesfield at the same time as you then to get my bus pass and for an alan Warwicks butchers Pork and stuffing sandwich ;)
Saw it around 12 in Wednesfield going towards Wolverhampton driven by who i call GSD (Grumpy Slow Driver)
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 27, 2013, 07:08:20 PM
What would be the point in sending the WN Mercs to CV anyway, they would all need painting which Simon said the other night wasn't worth it as they do not have much time left?
Tbh WN could do with keeping the Mercs and only a couple of mercs could transfer as only a few B6's have came to WN from PE.
Maybe 2153 will transfer to WN (Isn't it being done at Walsall atm?) Lets see if its repainted to red or Sky Blue?
There was a b5 hybrid in west brom bus station this afternoon-couldnt catch the number as I was on a diamond 4H leaving
Quote from: John on July 27, 2013, 06:17:59 PM
Quote from: 6013 on July 27, 2013, 04:31:36 PM
Quote from: Driver03 on July 27, 2013, 11:43:25 AM
I've heard 1678 is now at Walsall being repainted into Cov livery. WN are supposedly set to loose our Mercs, that will no doubt what B6s are replacing.
Nice to hear! I think 1678 replace 2153 or any of 4415-4424. 4415-4424 still out in service and red stick on windscreen say" Don't move the vehicle!"
I don't think all 10 of 4415-4424 will be off the road at the same time. Might be a replacement for 2153 if that is joining a WM garage, or an older O405N
8 of 4415-4424 in park and Two of 4415-4424 has no placed park in front garage but more likely in garage! Tomorrow, I will get picture of 4415-4424 in front park with red stick on windscreen. And will upload on this site.
Quote from: Peter123 on July 27, 2013, 07:18:03 PM
There was a b5 hybrid in west brom bus station this afternoon-couldnt catch the number as I was on a diamond 4H leaving
5514 on the 79. Rode it from Wolverhampton to West Brom
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 27, 2013, 08:24:47 PM
Quote from: Peter123 on July 27, 2013, 07:18:03 PM
There was a b5 hybrid in west brom bus station this afternoon-couldnt catch the number as I was on a diamond 4H leaving
5514 on the 79. Rode it from Wolverhampton to West Brom
You must have been arriving in west brom then just as I was leaving on X808NWX the ex ludlows cadet on the 4H which sounded better than last time I caught it but still unhealthy
Was it between 3:30-3:45 if so then it was me
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 27, 2013, 08:31:41 PM
Was it between 3:30-3:45 if so then it was me
Yeah about 3:45 I left west brom
I THINK WN BECOMING RETIREMENT HOME HOME FOR THE B6.
2153 probably go to pennsnett, joining 2154.
Quote from: pb2012 on July 27, 2013, 09:03:49 PM
I THINK WN BECOMING RETIREMENT HOME HOME FOR THE B6.
2153 probably go to pennsnett, joining 2154.
WN spectra's maybe be replaced with BC 4610-4634 batch if pershore road gets an upgrade in 2014.
25 buses in 21 spectra's out maybe 4 mercs aswell, would complete batch from 4535-4634 who knows.
Quote from: pb2012 on July 27, 2013, 09:19:52 PM
Quote from: pb2012 on July 27, 2013, 09:03:49 PM
I THINK WN BECOMING RETIREMENT HOME HOME FOR THE B6.
2153 probably go to pennsnett, joining 2154.
WN spectra's maybe be replaced with BC 4610-4634 batch if pershore road gets an upgrade in 2014.
25 buses in 21 spectra's out maybe 4 mercs aswell, would complete batch from 4535-4634 who knows.
They should keep the 54 regs for other BC routes eg bristol road not send them to another garage that would leave BC again with an unbalanced age profile-lots of new buses and old buses but little in the middle- i thought NX wanted to avoid that
If BC do get More E400's then some of the 44** batch could transfer to WN to withdraw Spectras or maybe 41**
Quote from: Peter123 on July 27, 2013, 09:21:29 PM
Quote from: pb2012 on July 27, 2013, 09:19:52 PM
Quote from: pb2012 on July 27, 2013, 09:03:49 PM
I THINK WN BECOMING RETIREMENT HOME HOME FOR THE B6.
2153 probably go to pennsnett, joining 2154.
WN spectra's maybe be replaced with BC 4610-4634 batch if pershore road gets an upgrade in 2014.
25 buses in 21 spectra's out maybe 4 mercs aswell, would complete batch from 4535-4634 who knows.
They should keep the 54 regs for other BC routes eg bristol road not send them to another garage that would leave BC again with an unbalanced age profile-lots of new buses and old buses but little in the middle- i thought NX wanted to avoid that
Agreed, I think if anything should go to PE, it should be more 41**s
Quote from: Sh4166 on July 27, 2013, 09:26:32 PM
Quote from: Peter123 on July 27, 2013, 09:21:29 PM
Quote from: pb2012 on July 27, 2013, 09:19:52 PM
Quote from: pb2012 on July 27, 2013, 09:03:49 PM
I THINK WN BECOMING RETIREMENT HOME HOME FOR THE B6.
2153 probably go to pennsnett, joining 2154.
WN spectra's maybe be replaced with BC 4610-4634 batch if pershore road gets an upgrade in 2014.
25 buses in 21 spectra's out maybe 4 mercs aswell, would complete batch from 4535-4634 who knows.
They should keep the 54 regs for other BC routes eg bristol road not send them to another garage that would leave BC again with an unbalanced age profile-lots of new buses and old buses but little in the middle- i thought NX wanted to avoid that
Agreed, I think if anything should go to PE, it should be more 41**s
Probably right about pe getting more 41** series to many single's at pe.
BC could get a large chunk of new buses in 2014.
Quote from: pb2012 on July 27, 2013, 09:30:49 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on July 27, 2013, 09:26:32 PM
Quote from: Peter123 on July 27, 2013, 09:21:29 PM
Quote from: pb2012 on July 27, 2013, 09:19:52 PM
Quote from: pb2012 on July 27, 2013, 09:03:49 PM
I THINK WN BECOMING RETIREMENT HOME HOME FOR THE B6.
2153 probably go to pennsnett, joining 2154.
WN spectra's maybe be replaced with BC 4610-4634 batch if pershore road gets an upgrade in 2014.
25 buses in 21 spectra's out maybe 4 mercs aswell, would complete batch from 4535-4634 who knows.
They should keep the 54 regs for other BC routes eg bristol road not send them to another garage that would leave BC again with an unbalanced age profile-lots of new buses and old buses but little in the middle- i thought NX wanted to avoid that
Agreed, I think if anything should go to PE, it should be more 41**s
Probably right about pe getting more 41** series to many single's at pe.
BC could get a large chunk of new buses in 2014.
I'm guessing the cascaded Trident to PE will replace some first series Mercs (1515-1627)
Quote from: Sh4166 on July 27, 2013, 09:32:17 PM
Quote from: pb2012 on July 27, 2013, 09:30:49 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on July 27, 2013, 09:26:32 PM
Quote from: Peter123 on July 27, 2013, 09:21:29 PM
Quote from: pb2012 on July 27, 2013, 09:19:52 PM
Quote from: pb2012 on July 27, 2013, 09:03:49 PM
I THINK WN BECOMING RETIREMENT HOME HOME FOR THE B6.
2153 probably go to pennsnett, joining 2154.
WN spectra's maybe be replaced with BC 4610-4634 batch if pershore road gets an upgrade in 2014.
25 buses in 21 spectra's out maybe 4 mercs aswell, would complete batch from 4535-4634 who knows.
They should keep the 54 regs for other BC routes eg bristol road not send them to another garage that would leave BC again with an unbalanced age profile-lots of new buses and old buses but little in the middle- i thought NX wanted to avoid that
Agreed, I think if anything should go to PE, it should be more 41**s
Probably right about pe getting more 41** series to many single's at pe.
BC could get a large chunk of new buses in 2014.
I'm guessing the cascaded Trident to PE will replace some first series Mercs (1515-1627)
As much as I like mercs they absolutely have to go soon. They rattle, wallow and are really rusted and the interiors dated with swathes of cheap grey plastics. The liberators lasted far better
Well I hope WN will keep enough Mercs for the 81 and 82 at the very least as they would fill B6's pretty quickly but I'm all for B6's replacing Mercs as the ones left are all in good condition
I believe 1604 has been withdrawn and I has last seen 1604 in first week of July! More likely, 1604 or 2153 will replace 1678?
Quote from: 6013 on July 27, 2013, 11:12:12 PM
I believe 1604 has been withdrawn and I has last seen 1604 in first week of July! More likely, 1604 or 2153 will replace 1678?
Don't think WN would swap a newer merc(1678) for an older example (1604). 2153 will probably replace it
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on July 27, 2013, 10:17:06 PM
Well I hope WN will keep enough Mercs for the 81 and 82 at the very least as they would fill B6's pretty quickly but I'm all for B6's replacing Mercs as the ones left are all in good condition
I f***ing hope thay dont keep them on the 81/82 sick of them put b6 or b7rle on them
i saw it in roseville when i went to the shop #goawaymercsonthe81and82
Sorry, are we on Twitter suddenly?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 27, 2013, 11:15:40 PM
Quote from: 6013 on July 27, 2013, 11:12:12 PM
I believe 1604 has been withdrawn and I has last seen 1604 in first week of July! More likely, 1604 or 2153 will replace 1678?
Don't think WN would swap a newer merc(1678) for an older example (1604). 2153 will probably replace it
Guys, 1678 has already been replaced. Bear in mind we have had 4 B6's with 1 to come and only got rid of 1 vehicle 4135.
Whats the future for 1678?
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on July 28, 2013, 07:46:56 PM
Whats the future for 1678?
read page 5 on this topic for answer
Quote from: BN on July 28, 2013, 12:12:17 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 27, 2013, 11:15:40 PM
Quote from: 6013 on July 27, 2013, 11:12:12 PM
I believe 1604 has been withdrawn and I has last seen 1604 in first week of July! More likely, 1604 or 2153 will replace 1678?
Don't think WN would swap a newer merc(1678) for an older example (1604). 2153 will probably replace it
Guys, 1678 has already been replaced. Bear in mind we have had 4 B6's with 1 to come and only got rid of 1 vehicle 4135.
So which are the 3 B6s not going to Wolverhampton - 502, 510 and which other?
Quote from: nitromatt1 on July 28, 2013, 09:33:58 PM
Quote from: BN on July 28, 2013, 12:12:17 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 27, 2013, 11:15:40 PM
Quote from: 6013 on July 27, 2013, 11:12:12 PM
I believe 1604 has been withdrawn and I has last seen 1604 in first week of July! More likely, 1604 or 2153 will replace 1678?
Don't think WN would swap a newer merc(1678) for an older example (1604). 2153 will probably replace it
Guys, 1678 has already been replaced. Bear in mind we have had 4 B6's with 1 to come and only got rid of 1 vehicle 4135.
So which are the 3 B6s not going to Wolverhampton - 502, 510 and which other?
Suspect it will be 544 Matt, it had vanished from PE last week and hasn't been spotted anywhere, although 582 has just been sat at PE for over a week, so who knows.
If 1676 and 1679 transferred to Coventry and will easy to replace 4319 and 4322. CV will not get a more double decker but some need more single decker.
*Some of 4415-4424 has start again service on yesterday! Only Three buses still red stick is 4417,4422, and 4424 has move to bendibuses park line. Yesterday late night, I seen only 6 Bendi in park line with 4417,4422, and 4424. 4 Bendi has move to garage but there are enough space in the garage.
5416 has been involved in a small collision in wolverhampton near the police station, don't know if anyone is hurt but there is an ambulance present
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 30, 2013, 07:05:31 PM
Quote from: Andrew on July 30, 2013, 06:59:54 PM
5416 has been involved in a small collision in wolverhampton near the police station, don't know if anyone is hurt but there is an ambulance present
Read my post above andrew!
Give him chance, there was only a few minutes between you
there was a full sized ambulance when i was there
Yes it was 5416 and a white van involved. I have a photo of it which I will upload when I get home. Currently at Nath's
It looks like it wasn't the bus driver in the wrong from what I can tell
Expecting a trident on the 1 over the next few days, yes I know they don't need to but you know what PL garage are like
There was a trident on yesterday.
Pics
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 30, 2013, 08:09:13 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on July 30, 2013, 07:31:24 PM
Yes it was 5416 and a white van involved. I have a photo of it which I will upload when I get home. Currently at Nath's
It looks like it wasn't the bus driver in the wrong from what I can tell
Expecting a trident on the 1 over the next few days, yes I know they don't need to but you know what PL garage are like
Or more unbranded B5's on the 1 instead of the 59?
Yeah that's what should happen, but knowing WN, they will still put 3/4 B5s on the 59 and a Trident on the 1 ;D
Or on the 27 ;)
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/emergency-services/2013/07/31/bus-and-car-collide-outside-wolverhampton-police-station/
Quote from: Andrew on July 31, 2013, 03:56:14 PM
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/emergency-services/2013/07/31/bus-and-car-collide-outside-wolverhampton-police-station/
So car turning right in front of bus going straight on. Straight on always has right of way so doesn't look like bus driver's fault again
Quote from: Tony on July 31, 2013, 09:41:41 PM
Quote from: Andrew on July 31, 2013, 03:56:14 PM
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/emergency-services/2013/07/31/bus-and-car-collide-outside-wolverhampton-police-station/
So car turning right in front of bus going straight on. Straight on always has right of way so doesn't look like bus driver's fault again
Yup. Isn't it nice when the company can claim off someone else's insurance for once?
Quote from: Tony on July 31, 2013, 09:41:41 PM
Quote from: Andrew on July 31, 2013, 03:56:14 PM
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/emergency-services/2013/07/31/bus-and-car-collide-outside-wolverhampton-police-station/
So car turning right in front of bus going straight on. Straight on always has right of way so doesn't look like bus driver's fault again
Yes. The amount of near misses i've hadon that junction while on the 1 i'm surprised it didn't happen sooner
Quote from: Liverpool Street on July 31, 2013, 09:44:25 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 31, 2013, 09:41:41 PM
Quote from: Andrew on July 31, 2013, 03:56:14 PM
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/emergency-services/2013/07/31/bus-and-car-collide-outside-wolverhampton-police-station/
So car turning right in front of bus going straight on. Straight on always has right of way so doesn't look like bus driver's fault again
Yup. Isn't it nice when the company can claim off someone else's insurance for once?
I believe the X51 accident was a very long serving driver driving perfectly correctly when the car decided to overtake a lorry coming head on into the bus. If the driver is who I think it is he is one of the few still at Walsall who worked on trollybuses!
Quote from: Tony on July 31, 2013, 09:48:55 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on July 31, 2013, 09:44:25 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 31, 2013, 09:41:41 PM
Quote from: Andrew on July 31, 2013, 03:56:14 PM
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/emergency-services/2013/07/31/bus-and-car-collide-outside-wolverhampton-police-station/
So car turning right in front of bus going straight on. Straight on always has right of way so doesn't look like bus driver's fault again
Yup. Isn't it nice when the company can claim off someone else's insurance for once?
I believe the X51 accident was a very long serving driver driving perfectly correctly when the car decided to overtake a lorry coming head on into the bus. If the driver is who I think it is he is one of the few still at Walsall who worked on trollybuses!
I always feel sorry for the driver in these situations, going about his work, not doing anything wrong and then something like this happens. Its awful :(
Quote from: Tony on July 31, 2013, 09:48:55 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on July 31, 2013, 09:44:25 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 31, 2013, 09:41:41 PM
Quote from: Andrew on July 31, 2013, 03:56:14 PM
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/emergency-services/2013/07/31/bus-and-car-collide-outside-wolverhampton-police-station/
So car turning right in front of bus going straight on. Straight on always has right of way so doesn't look like bus driver's fault again
Yup. Isn't it nice when the company can claim off someone else's insurance for once?
I believe the X51 accident was a very long serving driver driving perfectly correctly when the car decided to overtake a lorry coming head on into the bus. If the driver is who I think it is he is one of the few still at Walsall who worked on trollybuses!
Ahh, good to hear it wasnt one of our men who were at fault. When will be back; if ever? If you know.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 31, 2013, 09:52:04 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 31, 2013, 09:48:55 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on July 31, 2013, 09:44:25 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 31, 2013, 09:41:41 PM
Quote from: Andrew on July 31, 2013, 03:56:14 PM
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/emergency-services/2013/07/31/bus-and-car-collide-outside-wolverhampton-police-station/
So car turning right in front of bus going straight on. Straight on always has right of way so doesn't look like bus driver's fault again
Yup. Isn't it nice when the company can claim off someone else's insurance for once?
I believe the X51 accident was a very long serving driver driving perfectly correctly when the car decided to overtake a lorry coming head on into the bus. If the driver is who I think it is he is one of the few still at Walsall who worked on trollybuses!
I always feel sorry for the driver in these situations, going about his work, not doing anything wrong and then something like this happens. Its awful :(
Always good to lose mileage if you've a 4.5tripper lol. Annoying if its your last trip though.
So thats two hydrids out of action which means 4 on the 59 and 3 on the 126 :D :D :D
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So thats two hydrids out of action which means 4 on the 59 and 3 on the 126 :D :D :D
Two hybrids out of action???
Quote from: dgss1 on August 01, 2013, 07:43:46 AM
So thats two hydrids out of action which means 4 on the 59 and 3 on the 126 :D :D :D
5416 already having new panel fitted this morning, won't be off for more than a couple more hours
581 in service at WN on the 28 today. 4594 is on the 1 today
508 also now in service at WN on Route 26
Quote from: Tony on July 31, 2013, 09:41:41 PM
Quote from: Andrew on July 31, 2013, 03:56:14 PM
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/emergency-services/2013/07/31/bus-and-car-collide-outside-wolverhampton-police-station/
So car turning right in front of bus going straight on. Straight on always has right of way so doesn't look like bus driver's fault again
This is not the first incident here involving a bus, not by a long shot and neither of them were the drivers fault either, how can they not see the bus I mean I'm big, green HELLO!!!
Quote from: 4006 on August 02, 2013, 01:06:36 AM
Quote from: Tony on July 31, 2013, 09:41:41 PM
Quote from: Andrew on July 31, 2013, 03:56:14 PM
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/emergency-services/2013/07/31/bus-and-car-collide-outside-wolverhampton-police-station/
So car turning right in front of bus going straight on. Straight on always has right of way so doesn't look like bus driver's fault again
This is not the first incident here involving a bus, not by a long shot and neither of them were the drivers fault either, how can they not see the bus I mean I'm big, green HELLO!!!
Camouflage?
What routes in WN do B6LE operate on ?
Quote from: NathanJC on August 02, 2013, 01:32:14 PM
What routes in WN do B6LE operate on ?
25/A, 26/A/62, 27/A, 28 and sometimes the 59, 81 and 82.
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 02, 2013, 01:33:54 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on August 02, 2013, 01:32:14 PM
What routes in WN do B6LE operate on ?
25/A, 26/A/62, 27/A, 28 and sometimes the 59, 81 and 82.
Thanks Matt, Missing a few WN B6 pictures 8)
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 02, 2013, 01:33:54 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on August 02, 2013, 01:32:14 PM
What routes in WN do B6LE operate on ?
25/A, 26/A/62, 27/A, 28 and sometimes the 59, 81 and 82.
They usually appear on the 59 on peak boards
Quote from: Driver03 on July 27, 2013, 12:40:07 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 27, 2013, 12:11:32 PM
I thought they would go to a garage (PE,CV or WB) to replace older mercs so makes more sense.
Surely we will only lose a few as we have only had a few B6's from PE
Not entirely sure how accurate this is but I hear 50-60% are leaving us to be replaced with smaller buses. B6s certainly fit that bill 8)
You are correctly! 4693 taken out in service and 1678 back on the 6A with blank display.
Quote from: 6013 on August 02, 2013, 07:23:08 PM
1678 back on the 6A with blank display.
I did not expect it to be in service at Coventry already :)
Does anybody know what routes the Spectras are out on today, I'm gonna try and get out to Wolverhampton (first time I'll even have been to the city) to catch my first one :) was gonna place a bet that they'd be on the 79, so was gonna get the 934/935 to Walsall, 45 to West Bromwich then stick around waiting for a Spectra on the 79.
Quote from: JB93 on August 03, 2013, 02:23:01 PM
Does anybody know what routes the Spectras are out on today, I'm gonna try and get out to Wolverhampton (first time I'll even have been to the city) to catch my first one :) was gonna place a bet that they'd be on the 79, so was gonna get the 934/935 to Walsall, 45 to West Bromwich then stick around waiting for a Spectra on the 79.
11/32/33/59 and 79 all have mainly Spectras however the 79 has more tridents on a Saturday. Best place to find Spectras on a frequent route is the 59
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 03, 2013, 06:25:19 PM
Quote from: JB93 on August 03, 2013, 02:23:01 PM
Does anybody know what routes the Spectras are out on today, I'm gonna try and get out to Wolverhampton (first time I'll even have been to the city) to catch my first one :) was gonna place a bet that they'd be on the 79, so was gonna get the 934/935 to Walsall, 45 to West Bromwich then stick around waiting for a Spectra on the 79.
11/32/33/59 and 79 all have mainly Spectras however the 79 has more tridents on a Saturday. Best place to find Spectras on a frequent route is the 59
Didn't see any Spectra's on the 59 today. At least 2 hybrids, Tridents, and the B7RLE.
Quote from: John on August 03, 2013, 07:11:40 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 03, 2013, 06:25:19 PM
Quote from: JB93 on August 03, 2013, 02:23:01 PM
Does anybody know what routes the Spectras are out on today, I'm gonna try and get out to Wolverhampton (first time I'll even have been to the city) to catch my first one :) was gonna place a bet that they'd be on the 79, so was gonna get the 934/935 to Walsall, 45 to West Bromwich then stick around waiting for a Spectra on the 79.
11/32/33/59 and 79 all have mainly Spectras however the 79 has more tridents on a Saturday. Best place to find Spectras on a frequent route is the 59
Didn't see any Spectra's on the 59 today. At least 2 hybrids, Tridents, and the B7RLE.
According to Nathan there is at least one Spectra (4008) 4 B5s 3 Tridents and a B7RLE (possibly 2001)
Was any of 586 or 662 spotted out in Wolverhampton yesterday? Those were 2 I was really looking for.
If O405Ns are been replaced by B6LEs at Wolverhampton, will they go onto the 11/32/33 as well as the 26/62, 27 and 28
WN B66LEs are on the 11 on a daily basis anyway John. They. Were briefly on the 32 and 33 after their arrival, the loadings on those 2 routes are changeable but allocating B6s and Spectras sort of like the 11 would work well I reckon but yeah they'll be on most WN routes. I wasnt in wolves yesterday but 586 probably packed up again if it was out lol
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on August 04, 2013, 11:32:35 AM
WN B66LEs are on the 11 on a daily basis anyway John. They. Were briefly on the 32 and 33 after their arrival, the loadings on those 2 routes are changeable but allocating B6s and Spectras sort of like the 11 would work well I reckon but yeah they'll be on most WN routes. I wasnt in wolves yesterday but 586 probably packed up again if it was out lol
I wouldn't say a daily basis, I can't remember the last time I saw a B6 on the 11
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 04, 2013, 03:24:17 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on August 04, 2013, 11:32:35 AM
WN B66LEs are on the 11 on a daily basis anyway John. They. Were briefly on the 32 and 33 after their arrival, the loadings on those 2 routes are changeable but allocating B6s and Spectras sort of like the 11 would work well I reckon but yeah they'll be on most WN routes. I wasnt in wolves yesterday but 586 probably packed up again if it was out lol
I wouldn't say a daily basis, I can't remember the last time I saw a B6 on the 11
Two on there on Thursday, photo of 632 will appear on the main site soon!
Quote from: Tony on August 04, 2013, 03:33:05 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 04, 2013, 03:24:17 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on August 04, 2013, 11:32:35 AM
WN B66LEs are on the 11 on a daily basis anyway John. They. Were briefly on the 32 and 33 after their arrival, the loadings on those 2 routes are changeable but allocating B6s and Spectras sort of like the 11 would work well I reckon but yeah they'll be on most WN routes. I wasnt in wolves yesterday but 586 probably packed up again if it was out lol
I wouldn't say a daily basis, I can't remember the last time I saw a B6 on the 11
Two on there on Thursday, photo of 632 will appear on the main site soon!
Yes there has been one nearly every day this week plus the last journey off the 62 goes onto a 11 in an afternoon so you get a B6 daily in the afternoon.
John, I will look out for any buses you need to find in Wolverhampton. 586 and 662 are regulars on the 27 and 26
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 04, 2013, 03:38:20 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 04, 2013, 03:33:05 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 04, 2013, 03:24:17 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on August 04, 2013, 11:32:35 AM
WN B66LEs are on the 11 on a daily basis anyway John. They. Were briefly on the 32 and 33 after their arrival, the loadings on those 2 routes are changeable but allocating B6s and Spectras sort of like the 11 would work well I reckon but yeah they'll be on most WN routes. I wasnt in wolves yesterday but 586 probably packed up again if it was out lol
I wouldn't say a daily basis, I can't remember the last time I saw a B6 on the 11
Two on there on Thursday, photo of 632 will appear on the main site soon!
Yes there has been one nearly every day this week plus the last journey off the 62 goes onto a 11 in an afternoon so you get a B6 daily in the afternoon.
John, I will look out for any buses you need to find in Wolverhampton. 586 and 662 are regulars on the 27 and 26
I haven't seen a B6 on the 27 for a while, Ive just seen Mercs
Quote from: Nathan on August 04, 2013, 03:45:27 PM
I haven't seen a B6 on the 27 for a while, Ive just seen Mercs
There was one I saw on the 27 yesterday. can not remember which one
Quote from: John on August 04, 2013, 03:48:48 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 04, 2013, 03:45:27 PM
I haven't seen a B6 on the 27 for a while, Ive just seen Mercs
There was one I saw on the 27 yesterday. can not remember which one
Im just not in the right place at the right time.
But going to Bilston & Wolverhampton sometime this week to get the rest of the B6 nad the Spectra's
Can spectra's be found on the 59? and the 11
Quote from: Nathan on August 04, 2013, 03:50:56 PM
Can spectra's be found on the 59? and the 11
Yes. Plus some can also be on the 25/A, 32, 33 as well. I don't know if they are on the 79 as much any more
Quote from: John on August 04, 2013, 03:55:05 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 04, 2013, 03:50:56 PM
Can spectra's be found on the 59? and the 11
Yes. Plus some can also be on the 25/A, 32, 33 as well. I don't know if they are on the 79 as much any more
Thanks, just narrows it down so I can visit more places, not that I take many photos but I need to 8)
Quote from: John on August 04, 2013, 03:55:05 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 04, 2013, 03:50:56 PM
Can spectra's be found on the 59? and the 11
Yes. Plus some can also be on the 25/A, 32, 33 as well. I don't know if they are on the 79 as much any more
There are still Spectras on the 79 on a daily basis (but not Sundays obviously)
Spectras also sometimes appear on the 27/A, 28, 255 and 256/7, and occasionally the 82
Spectras are on the 11, 32, 33, 59, 79 mostly, could get one on 255-7 or 529, maybe the 25 28 or 27 but best thing to do is look on here during your day if you can then you can plan in case of unusual workings.
Quote from: Nathan on August 04, 2013, 03:50:56 PM
Quote from: John on August 04, 2013, 03:48:48 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 04, 2013, 03:45:27 PM
I haven't seen a B6 on the 27 for a while, Ive just seen Mercs
There was one I saw on the 27 yesterday. can not remember which one
Im just not in the right place at the right time.
But going to Bilston & Wolverhampton sometime this week to get the rest of the B6 nad the Spectra's
Can spectra's be found on the 59? and the 11
Spectras are most commonly found on the 59 Nathan
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on August 04, 2013, 03:59:50 PM
Spectras are on the 11, 32, 33, 59, 79 mostly, could get one on 255-7 or 529, maybe the 25 28 or 27 but best thing to do is look on here during your day if you can then you can plan in case of unusual workings.
Thanks Ash I can get it on my phone but it doesnt show up very well .
Thanks Trident, Does the 59 have any layover time at Ashmore Park?
Thanks Matt
Thanks John
I believe it has a few minutes somewhere on Griffiths Drive
Thanks, might go for a ride down there in the week
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 04, 2013, 07:43:28 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 04, 2013, 04:31:37 PM
Thanks, might go for a ride down there in the week
Yes it has a couple of minute layover on Ashmore Park.
How many minutes does it have?
Quote from: Nathan on August 04, 2013, 09:01:34 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 04, 2013, 07:43:28 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 04, 2013, 04:31:37 PM
Thanks, might go for a ride down there in the week
Yes it has a couple of minute layover on Ashmore Park.
How many minutes does it have?
Sometimes it just goes straight round. I would say around 1-3 minutes at the most maybe 3-4 if its early
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 04, 2013, 09:18:51 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 04, 2013, 09:01:34 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 04, 2013, 07:43:28 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 04, 2013, 04:31:37 PM
Thanks, might go for a ride down there in the week
Yes it has a couple of minute layover on Ashmore Park.
How many minutes does it have?
Sometimes it just goes straight round. I would say around 1-3 minutes at the most maybe 3-4 if its early
Enough time to grab a picture before it takes off if im quick ;D, and sounds like diamond 4 with the hayley green loop, just straight round in to halesowen an back to WA
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 04, 2013, 09:48:02 PM
Well you can get off,Take a picture then wait for the next one (4-6 minute frequency)
If it doesn't drive off before you cross the road! Which has happened to me a few times
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 04, 2013, 11:00:06 PM
The 59 is fully B5 tonight (5510/11/12/14) with 4539 and 4584 being the other two buses on there today but went out of service early evening
Thanks to me for that ;D
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 04, 2013, 11:06:37 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 04, 2013, 11:02:16 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 04, 2013, 11:00:06 PM
The 59 is fully B5 tonight (5510/11/12/14) with 4539 and 4584 being the other two buses on there today but went out of service early evening
Thanks to me for that ;D
Of course thanks to matt for spotting the buses on the 59 for me tonight;)
You're welcome ;)
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 04, 2013, 07:43:28 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 04, 2013, 04:31:37 PM
Thanks, might go for a ride down there in the week
Yes it has a couple of minute layover on Ashmore Park.
There is no 'layover' on the 59 only a few minutes at the bus station however the points where drivers are sometimes early and have to wait their time is
Ashmore Park - The Ashmore Pub
Ashmore Park - Higgs Road
Wood End Road Island (there are stops opposite and they usually pass quite quick together so a good opportunity here and also you won't have to go all the way to Ashmore)
Of course if you go to Ashmore you can also picture the 28 (usually B6's) going round
508 is on the 27 today if anyone wants to catch it. I'm going to try and catch it on the 2:35 27 from Wolverhampton
Also according to Nath 555 is on the staff bus
I think you'll find its the timing points on the route. You know, there's a running board for a reason.
Wolverhampton, Bus Station
New Cross Hospital Entrance
Wednesfield, Wood End Road
Ashmore Park, Ashmore Inn
Ashmore Park, Higgs Road
If they leave those points early they'll be subject to drivers report and liable for disciplinary action.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on August 05, 2013, 02:27:30 PM
I think you'll find its the timing points on the route. You know, there's a running board for a reason.
Wolverhampton, Bus Station
New Cross Hospital Entrance
Wednesfield, Wood End Road
Ashmore Park, Ashmore Inn
Ashmore Park, Higgs Road
If they leave those points early they'll be subject to drivers report and liable for disciplinary action.
Yep thats exactly what i thought. Thanks LS
4001 out on the 82 today. Which axle was it that snapped? Some worrying sounds were coming from the rear one.
First time I've ever seen 4001, let alone ride it
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 08, 2013, 06:46:11 PM
4001 out on the 82 today. Which axle was it that snapped? Some worrying sounds were coming from the rear one.
First time I've ever seen 4001, let alone ride it
It was the rear axle Matt
PS. Has 4001 had the logos replaced with the proper NXWM ones like the rest of the Spectras
Quote from: John on August 08, 2013, 06:50:53 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 08, 2013, 06:46:11 PM
4001 out on the 82 today. Which axle was it that snapped? Some worrying sounds were coming from the rear one.
First time I've ever seen 4001, let alone ride it
It was the rear axle Matt
PS. Has 4001 had the logos replaced with the proper NXWM ones like the rest of the Spectras
Thought so. And yes, it has
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 08, 2013, 06:53:43 PM
Quote from: John on August 08, 2013, 06:50:53 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 08, 2013, 06:46:11 PM
4001 out on the 82 today. Which axle was it that snapped? Some worrying sounds were coming from the rear one.
First time I've ever seen 4001, let alone ride it
It was the rear axle Matt
PS. Has 4001 had the logos replaced with the proper NXWM ones like the rest of the Spectras
Yes 4001 does have NXWM logos John:)
Had already answered him Nath
Oh sorry Matt :( Didn't see you had posted anything :( Whats got into you this evening?!
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 08, 2013, 06:59:17 PM
Oh sorry Matt :( Didn't see you had posted anything :( Whats got into you this evening?!
Eh? Nothing's got into me :) I'm fine
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 08, 2013, 07:00:26 PM
Well you know where to find it John ;)
Yeah I do, but when I next get to Wolverhampton, it will be nowhere to be seen
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 08, 2013, 07:06:46 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 08, 2013, 07:02:12 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 08, 2013, 06:59:17 PM
Oh sorry Matt :( Didn't see you had posted anything :( Whats got into you this evening?!
Eh? Nothing's got into me :) I'm fine
So why were you so abrupt with me? I didn't see you post anything ok! Thats why i posted the same info but that 60 seconds error thing came up so i had to wait
Didn't intend to seem abrupt. :)
Quote from: John on August 08, 2013, 07:07:28 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 08, 2013, 07:00:26 PM
Well you know where to find it John ;)
Yeah I do, but when I next get to Wolverhampton, it will be nowhere to be seen
It'll be back at PL on the ramps probably!
Quote from: 4006 on August 09, 2013, 12:32:54 AM
Quote from: John on August 08, 2013, 07:07:28 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 08, 2013, 07:00:26 PM
Well you know where to find it John ;)
Yeah I do, but when I next get to Wolverhampton, it will be nowhere to be seen
It'll be back at PL on the ramps probably!
There were some dodgy sounds coming from the rear axle this afternoon on the 82. Also didn't sound too healthy and an engineer was revving it in Dudley whilst on layover.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 09, 2013, 12:51:24 AM
Wasn't an engineer matt. Either another driver helping or an inspector
Silly me of course it wasn't, not sure why I said it was.
To be honest it probably won't be out again for a few days
4001 has always been a quirky one but its still a good Spectra
Finally rode 581 at WN today, on the full 62 to Finchfield and back, although the 62 isn't a particularly hilly route I am glad to report that 581 is still doing its unique scream, so glad to hear it again after all those weeks :)
The hills on Lower street/henwood road and finchfield Hill are enough to give the 62 some variety, glad you found your bus in service, i wasnt so lucky
Well the main target is to get 581 on the 27, the hilly nature of that route would bring 581 into its element!
Ill keep my eyes peeled if you dont find it first
The only ex PN B6 I have left to do at WN is 554 (and 582 if it ever comes)
I saw it monday lunchtime on a 62A. I was told yesterday they still havent decided about 582 so could be parked in WN or PN garage for all we know
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on August 09, 2013, 08:47:00 AM
I saw it monday lunchtime on a 62A. I was told yesterday they still havent decided about 582 so could be parked in WN or PN garage for all we know
Seen 554 many times just we decided to catch some better B6's.
Can anybody tell me why the 2 was going under the railway bridge on the Wednesfield Road out of Wolverhampton this evening?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 10, 2013, 08:13:17 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 10, 2013, 08:10:49 PM
Can anybody tell me why the 2 was going under the railway bridge on the Wednesfield Road out of Wolverhampton this evening?
Diversion on Cannock Rd?
I guessed that but was wondering why?
11 and 2 was diverted along ring road, wednesfield rd, springfield rd due to an accident on cannock road between stafford st and cross st
Quote from: mranon on August 10, 2013, 10:20:37 PM
11 and 2 was diverted along ring road, wednesfield rd, springfield rd due to an accident on cannock road between stafford st and cross st
Thanks :)
4560 has got to be one of the best sounding buses (and fastest) in the whole fleet! Sounds like a cross between a Trident and a Walsall B7RLE. Even does the 'humming' sound when ticking over. Anyone else noticed this?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 11, 2013, 10:26:04 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 11, 2013, 10:24:12 PM
4560 has got to be one of the best sounding buses (and fastest) in the whole fleet! Sounds like a cross between a Trident and a Walsall B7RLE. Even does the 'humming' sound when ticking over. Anyone else noticed this?
Will have to check that one next time i ride 4560 ;) Even i didn't realise that and i have rode 4560 many times
I want to preserve 4560 one day ;)
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 11, 2013, 10:34:04 PM
Not before i get to it first ;) Only Joking;D By the way 4556 was on the 25/7 today but there were 5-6 B7RLE's at the front of Park Lane garage
Like we were talking about earlier 4556 was probably parked at the front of the garage early this morning and they couldn't access any B7RLEs so had to send that out
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 11, 2013, 10:41:57 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 11, 2013, 10:36:49 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 11, 2013, 10:34:04 PM
Not before i get to it first ;) Only Joking;D By the way 4556 was on the 25/7 today but there were 5-6 B7RLE's at the front of Park Lane garage
Like we were talking about earlier 4556 was probably parked at the front of the garage early this morning and they couldn't access any B7RLEs so had to send that out
No they are parked where they are fully accessible at the front. There are only B7RLE's usually at the front
May have been that they didn't park enough B7RLEs at the front so one of the buses departing depot early morning had to have a Trident; the 25/27 being the most suitable
Going back to my question, does anyone know why 4560 sounds like an older B7RLE?
As it not rare anymore, will post here, 2005 on the 126
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 12, 2013, 11:41:12 AM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 12, 2013, 10:07:38 AM
As it not rare anymore, will post here, 2005 on the 126
It is still unusual stu as if you look at how many 126's depart each day and how many of them are not Tridents
To be honest, you get more B5s on the 126 than B7RLEs. I wouldn't call either unusual any more now though. A branded Hybrid would be though
Trident 4592 was parked at Oak Lane this afternoon. For an MOT probably.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 13, 2013, 08:05:52 PM
I wonder why a B6 got onto the 126? Surely at least a trident,B5,E400H or a B7RLE was spare?
There were at least 4 tridents and an E400H at PL when i went past at lunchtime
No spare tridents at the moment and 3 Enviros off for defects.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 13, 2013, 08:05:52 PM
I wonder why a B6 got onto the 126? Surely at least a trident,B5,E400H or a B7RLE was spare?
There were at least 4 tridents and an E400H at PL when i went past at lunchtime
Surely if they needed a bus desperately for the 126, it would have been better to nick a double off the 59 or 529 for it, and use the B6 to cover on that route.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 13, 2013, 08:13:51 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 13, 2013, 08:05:52 PM
I wonder why a B6 got onto the 126? Surely at least a trident,B5,E400H or a B7RLE was spare?
There were at least 4 tridents and an E400H at PL when i went past at lunchtime
Surely if they needed a bus desperately for the 126, it would have been better to nick a double off the 59 or 529 for it, and use the B6 to cover on that route.
Tbh only a couple of tridents on the 59 today and mainly Spectra. They could have taken one of the two B5's off.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 13, 2013, 08:13:51 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 13, 2013, 08:05:52 PM
I wonder why a B6 got onto the 126? Surely at least a trident,B5,E400H or a B7RLE was spare?
There were at least 4 tridents and an E400H at PL when i went past at lunchtime
Surely if they needed a bus desperately for the 126, it would have been better to nick a double off the 59 or 529 for it, and use the B6 to cover on that route.
That's what they usually do with the 59, but they don't put anything on the 59 in its place ;)
Quote from: BN on August 13, 2013, 08:12:37 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 13, 2013, 08:05:52 PM
I wonder why a B6 got onto the 126? Surely at least a trident,B5,E400H or a B7RLE was spare?
There were at least 4 tridents and an E400H at PL when i went past at lunchtime
No spare tridents at the moment and 3 Enviros off for defects.
A quarter of WN's E400s off the road due to defects? Are these proving to be unreliable buses? I have no stats or anything to back this up, just personal observations and anecdotal evidence, but after a shaky start, BC seem to usually be able to put out a full complement of their E400Hs each day.
Quote from: Mike K on August 13, 2013, 11:00:58 PM
A quarter of WN's E400s off the road due to defects? Are these proving to be unreliable buses? I have no stats or anything to back this up, just personal observations and anecdotal evidence, but after a shaky start, BC seem to usually be able to put out a full complement of their E400Hs each day.
Been reported that a few operators around the country have had issues with new E400Hs has it not?
Quote from: JackC on August 13, 2013, 11:36:59 PM
Quote from: Mike K on August 13, 2013, 11:00:58 PM
A quarter of WN's E400s off the road due to defects? Are these proving to be unreliable buses? I have no stats or anything to back this up, just personal observations and anecdotal evidence, but after a shaky start, BC seem to usually be able to put out a full complement of their E400Hs each day.
Been reported that a few operators around the country have had issues with new E400Hs has it not?
5414 has already developed a whistling sound under acceleration, I quite like it, it's made it my favourite E400H, distinguishes it from all the others. Hope they don't try and fix it
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 13, 2013, 11:43:31 PM
Quote from: JackC on August 13, 2013, 11:36:59 PM
Quote from: Mike K on August 13, 2013, 11:00:58 PM
A quarter of WN's E400s off the road due to defects? Are these proving to be unreliable buses? I have no stats or anything to back this up, just personal observations and anecdotal evidence, but after a shaky start, BC seem to usually be able to put out a full complement of their E400Hs each day.
Been reported that a few operators around the country have had issues with new E400Hs has it not?
5414 has already developed a whistling sound under acceleration, I quite like it, it's made it my favourite E400H, distinguishes it from all the others. Hope they don't try and fix it
Whistling under acceleration sounds to me like the turbo.
Quote from: JackC on August 13, 2013, 11:47:18 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 13, 2013, 11:43:31 PM
Quote from: JackC on August 13, 2013, 11:36:59 PM
Quote from: Mike K on August 13, 2013, 11:00:58 PM
A quarter of WN's E400s off the road due to defects? Are these proving to be unreliable buses? I have no stats or anything to back this up, just personal observations and anecdotal evidence, but after a shaky start, BC seem to usually be able to put out a full complement of their E400Hs each day.
Been reported that a few operators around the country have had issues with new E400Hs has it not?
5414 has already developed a whistling sound under acceleration, I quite like it, it's made it my favourite E400H, distinguishes it from all the others. Hope they don't try and fix it
Whistling under acceleration sounds to me like the turbo.
Sounds a bit like the classic Trident 'whistle'. Will try and film it when I get some space back on my camera
Quote from: JackC on August 13, 2013, 11:47:18 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 13, 2013, 11:43:31 PM
Quote from: JackC on August 13, 2013, 11:36:59 PM
Quote from: Mike K on August 13, 2013, 11:00:58 PM
A quarter of WN's E400s off the road due to defects? Are these proving to be unreliable buses? I have no stats or anything to back this up, just personal observations and anecdotal evidence, but after a shaky start, BC seem to usually be able to put out a full complement of their E400Hs each day.
Been reported that a few operators around the country have had issues with new E400Hs has it not?
5414 has already developed a whistling sound under acceleration, I quite like it, it's made it my favourite E400H, distinguishes it from all the others. Hope they don't try and fix it
Whistling under acceleration sounds to me like the turbo.
Yeah, I'd expect it to be something minor like a split turbo hose though, rather than the whole turbo going, on such a new vehicle.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 14, 2013, 12:52:15 PM
Saw 4015 and 4015 this morning
4015 and 4015? Twin Spectras? ;)
4021 was on the 59 ysdty with 4009 and 4011 on the 11.
4567s seats were ready for collection at Miller Street today. It has been at Trailways for refurb, so may still have to get to Walsall for paint before returning to Wolverhampton
And nothing. Just testing my first post.
How about welcome to the group?!
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 14, 2013, 09:40:24 PM
Quote from: DOC37V on August 14, 2013, 09:34:48 PM
4021 was on the 59 ysdty with 4009 and 4011 on the 11.
And? They are supposed to be on those routes!
DOC37V never said they was not supposed to be on those routes. Its not the unusual workings thread
Quote from: DOC37V on August 14, 2013, 09:53:18 PM
And nothing. Just testing my first post.
How about welcome to the group?!
Sorry :( forget about my last post Welcome to the forum. Guess you are from Wolverhampton like me?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 14, 2013, 09:55:54 PM
Quote from: DOC37V on August 14, 2013, 09:53:18 PM
And nothing. Just testing my first post.
How about welcome to the group?!
Sorry :( forget about my last post Welcome to the forum. Guess you are from Wolverhampton like me?
No worries :D Yep Wolvo born and bread. Brought up on Nationals and Volvo Citybuses. I posted the spectra info purely as a test post and because there is some interest in the old girls.
Has 4558 now been repaired & returned to service after its accident earlier this year?
Quote from: Winston on August 15, 2013, 12:30:32 AM
Has 4558 now been repaired & returned to service after its accident earlier this year?
Yes it has Winston. I got a pic of it on the 255 last month
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/9278513528/
Quote from: John on August 15, 2013, 08:49:38 AM
Quote from: Winston on August 15, 2013, 12:30:32 AM
Has 4558 now been repaired & returned to service after its accident earlier this year?
Yes it has Winston. I got a pic of it on the 255 last month
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/9278513528/
Thanks for that John, I was under the impression once repaired it would have been refurb'd....
Quote from: Winston on August 15, 2013, 12:30:32 AM
Has 4558 now been repaired & returned to service after its accident earlier this year?
Came back in April i think. Got a video of it on the 28 on my youtube channel
John, all they did to 4558 was fix and paint the front in TWM livery, the rest was untouched
WN today:
2018 and 2071 on the 79
5512/3 on the 126 tonight
WN buses on V festival today are 4002 and Another Spectra, 4539/44/54
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 16, 2013, 09:55:30 PM
WN today:
2018 and 2071 on the 79
5512/3 on the 126 tonight
WN buses on V festival today are 4002 and Another Spectra, 4539/44/54
Someone on the Yahoo WM bus group posted that 4012 & 4013 are on V Festival today.
Well they were missing from service so sounds right
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 16, 2013, 10:00:40 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 16, 2013, 09:55:30 PM
WN today:
2018 and 2071 on the 79
5512/3 on the 126 tonight
WN buses on V festival today are 4002 and Another Spectra, 4539/44/54
Someone on the Yahoo WM bus group posted that 4012 & 4013 are on V Festival today.
I think 4014 is as well
Is that a joke tony?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 17, 2013, 06:33:06 PM
Is that a joke tony?
One key too high on my phone it is 4011! Trouble with having big fingers and small number keys on a touch screen
i think 4014 is as well
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i bet that would be hell fire lol ;)
Quote from: mranon on August 17, 2013, 08:09:45 PM
i think 4014 is as well
i bet that would be hell fire lol ;)
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It would overheat ;)
2029 on the 59 today and is one of the 4 buses on tonight along with 5511/2 which i have seen
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 17, 2013, 09:18:51 PM
2029 on the 59 today and is one of the 4 buses on tonight along with 5511/2 which i have seen
The fourth one was 4576 :)
126 on diversion AGAIN this morning, this time due to an RTA involving two cars and a motorcycle.
The accident happened a couple of minutes before the motorway bridge (when going towards Wolverhampton). Don't know the road names, but the bus turned left on a road served by the 53, then right onto a road served by the 49, then left back onto the normal line of route.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 18, 2013, 07:44:09 PM
Any reason why an E400 (Grandad saw it,Described it,Showed him a photo and he said it was an E400) was on the 529? Maybe loan from V festival Shuttle?
Sure it wasn't a hybrid?
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on August 18, 2013, 08:16:45 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 18, 2013, 07:44:09 PM
Any reason why an E400 (Grandad saw it,Described it,Showed him a photo and he said it was an E400) was on the 529? Maybe loan from V festival Shuttle?
Sure it wasn't a hybrid?
My grandad said it was red and white and displayed 529 and was carrying passengers (Showed him pictures of all NX double deckers and he pointed out an E400 as the bus he saw).
It has completley baffled me
Maybe borrowed from PE, was it seen today?
Maybe a Walsall E400 on the 40 NOT the 529? seen a few on there recently?
Quote from: 4006 on August 18, 2013, 08:34:25 PM
Maybe a Walsall E400 on the 40 NOT the 529? seen a few on there recently?
Exactly what i thought. It was probably a Spectra or trident (You can tell he is not a bus person)
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 18, 2013, 08:36:37 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 18, 2013, 08:27:31 PM
Maybe borrowed from PE, was it seen today?
Seen yesterday and today. I think my grandad may have not seen it on the 529 and just because it was on Willenhall Rd. But the problem is he is insistant that it was on the 529.
I'm pretty sure he just probably saw a V festival shuttle bus (They are taking that line of route back to Walsall Garage)
Maybe a v festival bus was going back to garage and went in service?
Well you never know. Was probably just a Spectra or trident as he said it said 529 on the front
Couple of BC tridents parked in the front yard when i went past Park Lane this morning (Obviously not needed on V festival shuttles today). 4002,4543, A load of BC tridents and A Gemini on the V festival shuttles today (Went past quickly so never caught fleetnumbers sorry)
See V festival thread!
Out on the buses today for a little while, would be grateful if anyone grateful could give an update if they see 4001 around today as would like to catch it again, thanks
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 21, 2013, 02:11:43 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on August 21, 2013, 11:25:02 AM
Out on the buses today for a little while, would be grateful if anyone grateful could give an update if they see 4001 around today as would like to catch it again, thanks
I have been out today and haven't seen it so far but will look out for it matt :)
Thanks, I was out as well but no success, seen all 59's and a few other Spectra routes but no sign, if anyone does spot it in the next few weeks let me know
Gearbox fault, should be back out by Friday.
Quote from: BN on August 21, 2013, 07:45:13 PM
Gearbox fault, should be back out by Friday.
Was wondering where 4001 went ;) Last time i rode it a few weeks back it had a Dodgy sounding rear axle
I managed to scoop the Doyern of the fleet in last Friday on the 11, sounded mega loud like the exhaust blowing. Or could just be a loud animal all round!
Excuse the potential ignorance.... but do the Spectra's have certain diagrams set out and if so how many are there a day for the fleet of 21 ? I'm assuming they do as most of them go to bed after the evening peak although I did see 4004 around 2215 last night on the 11.
Quote from: DOC37V on August 21, 2013, 09:29:21 PM
I managed to scoop the Doyern of the fleet in last Friday on the 11, sounded mega loud like the exhaust blowing. Or could just be a loud animal all round!
Excuse the potential ignorance.... but do the Spectra's have certain diagrams set out and if so how many are there a day for the fleet of 21 ? I'm assuming they do as most of them go to bed after the evening peak although I did see 4004 around 2215 last night on the 11.
There a usually a couple of Spectras in the garage during the day (One usually does the peak 59 board). Noticed now that all the Spectras are taken off the 59 now with tridents/B5's operating it (Mainly to reduce the chance of breakdowns). A spectra did do the 21:15 256 from Wolverhampton the other week
There has been a spectra out on 32/33/11 at night plus 529.
Quote from: mranon on August 22, 2013, 06:42:30 AM
There has been a spectra out on 32/33/11 at night plus 529.
Spectras did used to stay out on the 59 at night, usually till 20:30 then back to garage from Wolverhampton Bus station but 1 or 2 did stay out till end of service but they all now go out of service around 17:30-19:00 and the tridents and B5's stay out in the evening
Anyone who is looking for 4001, juse seen it on the 25A
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 23, 2013, 12:12:38 PM
Anyone who is looking for 4001, juse seen it on the 25A
Where did you see it and what time?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 23, 2013, 12:29:29 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 23, 2013, 12:12:38 PM
Anyone who is looking for 4001, juse seen it on the 25A
Where did you see it and what time?
About 1210, i was on the 40 towards walsall and it was in front of us Through willenhall.
Was it going to Bilston? Would have changed back to a 25 at Bilston
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 23, 2013, 07:25:31 PM
Was it going to Bilston? Would have changed back to a 25 at Bilston
Yes it was Nathan
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 23, 2013, 07:25:31 PM
Was it going to Bilston? Would have changed back to a 25 at Bilston
Looking at the timetable it was most likely going towards Bilston.
4001 has been on the 82 today. Spotted it going through Heath Town while on the 28.
Anyone still wanting to find 4001?
Not any more, but 4006 and 4016 required and not seen in recent weeks, although I may have been in the wrong place and the wrong time!
Quote from: DOC37V on August 24, 2013, 11:46:26 PM
Not any more, but 4006 and 4016 required and not seen in recent weeks, although I may have been in the wrong place and the wrong time!
I saw 4016 less than a couple of hours ago, on the 27 in Dudley
Think I saw 4006 yesterday, but can't remember the route.
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 24, 2013, 11:58:14 PM
Quote from: DOC37V on August 24, 2013, 11:46:26 PM
Not any more, but 4006 and 4016 required and not seen in recent weeks, although I may have been in the wrong place and the wrong time!
I saw 4016 less than a couple of hours ago, on the 27 in Dudley
Think I saw 4006 yesterday, but can't remember the route.
At first i thought i saw it from a distance on the 59 but turned out to be 4008 ;)
Seen both 4006/16 within past few days think 4006 was on the 79 the other day and 4016 was on the 59 a few days previously
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 24, 2013, 07:46:35 PM
4001 has been on the 82 today. Spotted it going through Heath Town while on the 28.
Anyone still wanting to find 4001?
I do, but I'm not back in England for another week. Will have to catch up with things in September
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 24, 2013, 07:46:35 PM
4001 has been on the 82 today. Spotted it going through Heath Town while on the 28.
Anyone still wanting to find 4001?
I saw on my way to asda and got on it from w'ton-dudley then got the 243 (b7rle) to merry hill then 81 (b6) home
Anyone wanting to find 4001 its on the 59 again today. Rode it on there yesterday aswell
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 28, 2013, 12:04:32 PM
Anyone wanting to find 4001 its on the 59 again today. Rode it on there yesterday aswell
I need a majority of Spectra's =D ;D
Quote from: Nathan4775 on August 28, 2013, 12:18:14 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 28, 2013, 12:04:32 PM
Anyone wanting to find 4001 its on the 59 again today. Rode it on there yesterday aswell
I need a majority of Spectra's =D ;D
I've now done all WN Spectras now 4001 is back out
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 28, 2013, 12:26:43 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on August 28, 2013, 12:18:14 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 28, 2013, 12:04:32 PM
Anyone wanting to find 4001 its on the 59 again today. Rode it on there yesterday aswell
I need a majority of Spectra's =D ;D
I've now done all WN Spectras now 4001 is back out
Ive only ever rode on 1 spectra on the 79
Quote from: Nathan4775 on August 28, 2013, 12:18:14 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 28, 2013, 12:04:32 PM
Anyone wanting to find 4001 its on the 59 again today. Rode it on there yesterday aswell
I need a majority of Spectra's =D ;D
catch the 11/32/3/59 and 79 and you will be bound to catch them all eventually. Did all the Spectras ages ago. think i have rode all of WN's fleet!
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 28, 2013, 12:34:51 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on August 28, 2013, 12:18:14 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 28, 2013, 12:04:32 PM
Anyone wanting to find 4001 its on the 59 again today. Rode it on there yesterday aswell
I need a majority of Spectra's =D ;D
catch the 11/32/3/59 and 79 and you will be bound to catch them all eventually. Did all the Spectras ages ago. think i have rode all of WN's fleet!
Ah but did you ever do 4014? I rode on it just the day before it met its maker. Tragic waste of a fine bus.
At WN, I've been on 21 Spectra, all of the current Tridents and some that have left recently, most B7RLE and 0405N, all of the hybrids and a few B6LE.
That's all!
I've been on
spectra: 4002,4009,4022
b7rle: 2001,2068.2020,2013,2008,2009,2010
o405n: all wn & pe
hybrids: not many
been on most PB buses except the Ex Cov & Ex Dundee Ominilinks
Completley forgot about 4014 ;) Thanks Mike ;) Rode 4001-13 and 4015-22 at WN then ;)
Done all WN tridents including all ones that have been at WN then gone to other garages.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 28, 2013, 09:18:02 PM
Completley forgot about 4014 ;) Thanks Mike ;) Rode 4001-13 and 4015-22 at WN then ;)
Done all WN tridents including all ones that have been at WN then gone to other garages.
Did you do all the 41**s whilst they were at WN years ago?
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 29, 2013, 01:19:27 AM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 28, 2013, 09:18:02 PM
Completley forgot about 4014 ;) Thanks Mike ;) Rode 4001-13 and 4015-22 at WN then ;)
Done all WN tridents including all ones that have been at WN then gone to other garages.
Did you do all the 41**s whilst they were at WN years ago?
I did most when they where 559/560 branded cause i was always going to bently bridge
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 29, 2013, 01:19:27 AM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 28, 2013, 09:18:02 PM
Completley forgot about 4014 ;) Thanks Mike ;) Rode 4001-13 and 4015-22 at WN then ;)
Done all WN tridents including all ones that have been at WN then gone to other garages.
Did you do all the 41**s whilst they were at WN years ago?
Indeed i did Matt :) All of 4162-79 were originally at WN and definetley rode 4170-79 with them operating and being branded for the 559/560 :)
Summer Saturday breakdowns
Plastic device 5511 sat by the Pyle Cock at 1215 going nowhere hazards on earlier, then saw 4547 on the back of a Mansfield Wrecker at 1455 heading down the Cannock Road towards PL.
Regarding 5511, about an hour later, seen from Sainsbury's, nothing had happened, the driver was sat on the wall on the phone.
Because of the bridge and the lack of pulling over, it was very difficult to see past.
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on August 31, 2013, 11:30:31 PM
Regarding 5511, about an hour later, seen from Sainsbury's, nothing had happened, the driver was sat on the wall on the phone.
Because of the bridge and the lack of pulling over, it was very difficult to see past.
I also saw that, then 10 minutes later I saw someone in an orange boiler suit driving it through Heath Town towards Wolves
Quote from: Kevin on September 01, 2013, 07:11:12 AM
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on August 31, 2013, 11:30:31 PM
Regarding 5511, about an hour later, seen from Sainsbury's, nothing had happened, the driver was sat on the wall on the phone.
Because of the bridge and the lack of pulling over, it was very difficult to see past.
I also saw that, then 10 minutes later I saw someone in an orange boiler suit driving it through Heath Town towards Wolves
So it was you i saw earlier in that area! Were you in Wednesfield?
Whats the latest on 2022 after its recent RTA?
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on September 01, 2013, 07:24:48 PM
Whats the latest on 2022 after its recent RTA?
What happened with 2022
As i reported first thing this morning (Before lots of others posted it over and over again) 5510 was on the 32/3/79 today. Very rare any day especially Sundays.
529 branded 4604 on the 59 today and this evening. Replaced a defective 5513.
Quote from: John on September 01, 2013, 11:03:00 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on September 01, 2013, 07:24:48 PM
Whats the latest on 2022 after its recent RTA?
What happened with 2022
If its the one i'm thinking of it had a collision with a Jaguar on Billy Buns Lane in Wombourne on the 255 one sunday afternoon
Dont know the location or date of the incident, i was just told it recieved drivers side damage
Can anyone locate 4001 for me today? Be much appreciated, thanks
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on September 03, 2013, 10:01:51 AM
Can anyone locate 4001 for me today? Be much appreciated, thanks
Need a picture of 4001 also, so If i see it before you see it ill let you know (:
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on September 03, 2013, 10:01:51 AM
Can anyone locate 4001 for me today? Be much appreciated, thanks
Haven't seen it yet but will look around for you. Seen 4002 on the 59.
1662 is on the 59 today and 2012 is on the 1
Well I'll be in Wolverhampton in an hour so hope to try and find it
WN garage have started to replace the old TWM logos with the new NXWM ones.
1673 has gained white logos (Same as BY omnilinks) and 4558 has gained identical logos to the ones recently applied to BC's tridents
4581, 4582 and 4583 on consecutive running boards all last night. Like it when that happens. Sadly the bus after was not 4584 but 4580.
4607 back from paintshop.
Just done the 59 circular on 4002 so getting closer! Seems to be majority Spectra today, no sign of any Hybrids!
Just been to the garage, 4001 parked up inside, right at the front though so might make an appearance on a peak but 4004 looks ready for service as well
They could be booked on school services
Maybe, in other WN news 1662's day on the 59 has been cut short 4007 is the replacement being transferred from the 32
Whats happened to the 529 branded Tridents on the 529 today and 4021 because theres a different spectra heading back from walsall on the 529 as I write this, 4546 wasnt on there this morning, nor was another Trident with connection bars
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on September 03, 2013, 01:53:13 PM
Just done the 59 circular on 4002 so getting closer! Seems to be majority Spectra today, no sign of any Hybrids!
Not one hybrid today on the 59 which is usual in itself. Spectras, 5 tridents and Merc 1662 on there today
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on September 03, 2013, 05:31:26 PM
Whats happened to the 529 branded Tridents on the 529 today and 4021 because theres a different spectra heading back from walsall on the 529 as I write this, 4546 wasnt on there this morning, nor was another Trident with connection bars
4008 was the other Spectra on there this afternoon
4021 was taken off about 2 o'clock for some reason, saw it pulling round, quickly went to the toilet before going to get it, only to see it pulling away Not in service, I thought how annoying, but then 4008 pulled up in its place, nice and loud that one, almost as if the exhaust was blowing slightly, gearbox has gone between 1st and 2nd though unfortunately, and not as free revving as 4002 I travelled on earlier, some good kickdowns
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on September 03, 2013, 06:56:00 PM
4021 was taken off about 2 o'clock for some reason, saw it pulling round, quickly went to the toilet before going to get it, only to see it pulling away Not in service, I thought how annoying, but then 4008 pulled up in its place, nice and loud that one, almost as if the exhaust was blowing slightly, gearbox has gone between 1st and 2nd though unfortunately, and not as free revving as 4002 I travelled on earlier, some good kickdowns
Saw 4002 on the 59 quite a few times today but unfortunatley never managed to catch it along with 1662. Hope to ride the Morning Peak board on the 59 which is usually a B6 or B7RLE
1 branded 5412 on the 59 tonight first time I've seen Enviro on this.
Quote from: 888DUK on September 03, 2013, 08:53:42 PM
1 branded 5412 on the 59 tonight first time I've seen Enviro on this.
5411/12/13/14/16/19 have all appeared on the 59 at some point
5411/13/14/16/19 have appeared on a Sunday and 5412 appeared a few months back on a weekday all day and 5419 has operated a weekday evening
Noticed this evening that 5412 has also picked up a slight whistle (different to 5414's loud one)
Don't recall any of BC's Enviros getting whistles, and theirs are older!
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 03, 2013, 09:21:26 PM
Noticed this evening that 5412 has also picked up a slight whistle (different to 5414's loud one)
Don't recall any of BC's Enviros getting whistles, and theirs are older!
Some of stagecoach london's e400h's whistle quite a lot
4607 out on 79 today
4001 on the 255 today. Left Wolverhampton around about 17:20
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 04, 2013, 05:59:12 PM
4001 on the 255 today. Left Wolverhampton around about 17:20
Oh how annoying, can't get out again till Friday, and sounds like a replacement bus to me, overheated Trident perhaps
Im out tomorrow and hoping to get;
Spectras
B6LE
a few 1 hybrids
4764
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 04, 2013, 06:04:17 PM
Im out tomorrow and hoping to get;
Spectras
B6LE
a few 1 hybrids
4764
You can find the Spectras on the 11/32/33/59/79
B6LE's at WN are found on the 11/26/27/28/32/33/59 (Peak time),62/A
1 Hybrids obviously on the 1
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 04, 2013, 06:08:06 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 04, 2013, 06:04:17 PM
Im out tomorrow and hoping to get;
Spectras
B6LE
a few 1 hybrids
4764
You can find the Spectras on the 11/32/33/59/79
B6LE's at WN are found on the 11/26/27/28/32/33/59 (Peak time),62/A
1 Hybrids obviously on the 1
On the 79 ive seen tridents recently, and they all seem close to together streetwise so hopefully my luck will pan out just fine ;D
and 4764 can be found on any WA route except 34/8/9 ::)
And 4/H/, 311/3,335/6 can't have E400's either
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 04, 2013, 06:12:13 PM
And 4/H/, 311/3,335/6 can't have E400's either
forgot about the 335/6
an talking of the 4H/M I now no were the rest of the scania's at WA are based ;D I couldnt put my finger on were the rest were used
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 04, 2013, 06:10:08 PM
On the 79 ive seen tridents recently, and they all seem close to together streetwise so hopefully my luck will pan out just fine ;D
and 4764 can be found on any WA route except 34/8/9 ::)
The 79 is usually a mix of both Spectras and Tridents whenever I see it
The Leather seated Enviro400s are usually on the express Birmingham services (X51, 934/5/6 or the 997), it would be unusual for one to be on a local Walsall service. The 48** Enviro400s are seen more on the Walsall local services.
Quote from: John on September 04, 2013, 06:22:25 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 04, 2013, 06:10:08 PM
On the 79 ive seen tridents recently, and they all seem close to together streetwise so hopefully my luck will pan out just fine ;D
and 4764 can be found on any WA route except 34/8/9 ::)
The 79 is usually a mix of both Spectras and Tridents whenever I see it
The Leather seated Enviro400s are usually on the express Birmingham services (X51, 934/5/6 or the 997), it would be unusual for one to be on a local Walsall service. The 48** Enviro400s are seen more on the Walsall local services.
hopefully I can ride a spectra tomorrow then on the 79 :)
thanks john
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 04, 2013, 06:28:03 PM
hopefully I can ride a spectra tomorrow then on the 79 :)
thanks john
No problem Nathan :)
I am going to try to complete the set of 97 branded Tridents in Chelmsley Wood tomorrow. Just need 4458, 4461, 4462 and 4464. Also get some more branded 957 Enviro400s in Solihull
John, do you mean photographing or riding them? 4458 is one of the few 97 branded Tridents I've ridden
Quote from: John on September 04, 2013, 06:32:44 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 04, 2013, 06:28:03 PM
hopefully I can ride a spectra tomorrow then on the 79 :)
thanks john
No problem Nathan :)
I am going to try to complete the set of 97 branded Tridents in Chelmsley Wood tomorrow. Just need 4458, 4461, 4462 and 4464. Also get some more branded 957 Enviro400s in Solihull
good luck with that john :)
Correct John :) More and more Spectras have been put back onto the 79 now its back to normal timetable with more tridents and less Spectras on the 59
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 04, 2013, 06:34:32 PM
John, do you mean photographing or riding them? 4458 is one of the few 97 branded Tridents I've ridden
Just getting pictures of them Matt :) Will hopefully get on my first branded one as that is the route I am planning to use to get from Brum to Chelmsley Wood.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 04, 2013, 06:49:31 PM
Correct John :) More and more Spectras have been put back onto the 79 now its back to normal timetable with more tridents and less Spectras on the 59
Well tomorrow as long as I get a majority of Spectras WN may place them where they like ;)
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on September 04, 2013, 06:02:36 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 04, 2013, 05:59:12 PM
4001 on the 255 today. Left Wolverhampton around about 17:20
Oh how annoying, can't get out again till Friday, and sounds like a replacement bus to me, overheated Trident perhaps
4015 was parked in the lay over bay just off the Bilston road island at 1700 today, boot lid up, das ist kaput.
Quote from: DOC37V on September 04, 2013, 11:04:31 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on September 04, 2013, 06:02:36 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 04, 2013, 05:59:12 PM
4001 on the 255 today. Left Wolverhampton around about 17:20
Oh how annoying, can't get out again till Friday, and sounds like a replacement bus to me, overheated Trident perhaps
4015 was parked in the lay over bay just off the Bilston road island at 1700 today, boot lid up, das ist kaput.
Pretty sure I saw it back in service by the evening
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 04, 2013, 11:06:35 PM
Quote from: DOC37V on September 04, 2013, 11:04:31 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on September 04, 2013, 06:02:36 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 04, 2013, 05:59:12 PM
4001 on the 255 today. Left Wolverhampton around about 17:20
Oh how annoying, can't get out again till Friday, and sounds like a replacement bus to me, overheated Trident perhaps
4015 was parked in the lay over bay just off the Bilston road island at 1700 today, boot lid up, das ist kaput.
Pretty sure I saw it back in service by the evening
PL's finest fitter's no doubt ;D
Quote from: DOC37V on September 04, 2013, 11:10:04 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 04, 2013, 11:06:35 PM
Quote from: DOC37V on September 04, 2013, 11:04:31 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on September 04, 2013, 06:02:36 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 04, 2013, 05:59:12 PM
4001 on the 255 today. Left Wolverhampton around about 17:20
Oh how annoying, can't get out again till Friday, and sounds like a replacement bus to me, overheated Trident perhaps
4015 was parked in the lay over bay just off the Bilston road island at 1700 today, boot lid up, das ist kaput.
Pretty sure I saw it back in service by the evening
PL's finest fitter's no doubt ;D
I could've been getting it mixed up with when I was in Wolverhampton bus station earlier though, not sure.
Completely forgot to post it, 2006 on 59 all day today (Wednesday)
Any 4001 sightings? Thanks, will be in Wolverhampton in an hour
Forget that, found her! 59 2:40 ex Wolverhampton
And 4002 is the next bus right behind, so for anyonelse who wants the first 2 Spectra's todays the day to do it
Noticed there was a trident out on the 1 today, I think it was replaced with 5421 around 1ish, but not 100% sure unless 5421 was off onto another route as it was being driven by a driver
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on September 05, 2013, 02:43:18 PM
Forget that, found her! 59 2:40 ex Wolverhampton
Yes saw it coming out of School at 2:55 this afternoon going towards Ashmore Park. Anybody else who needs a sighting/Photo its still on the 59 right now
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 05, 2013, 03:27:39 PM
as it was being driven by a driver
I'd be very worried if it wasn't!
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 05, 2013, 04:04:15 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on September 05, 2013, 02:43:18 PM
Forget that, found her! 59 2:40 ex Wolverhampton
Yes saw it coming out of School at 2:55 this afternoon going towards Ashmore Park. Anybody else who needs a sighting/Photo its still on the 59 right now
Seen it twice once when leaving Wolverhampton for Ashmore park then the second time when I was on the 560 ::) so didnt get a picture
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on September 05, 2013, 04:13:22 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 05, 2013, 03:27:39 PM
as it was being driven by a driver
I'd be very worried if it wasn't!
Usually I see some buses N.I.S driven by Engineers ;)
5510 on a 126E journey to Dudley this afternoon
4539 is on a rare working of the 2
Went past Park Lane garage at 5PM and 4577 was parked in the front yard and a Spectra (Think 4006 or 4008) and a 529 branded trident being worked on
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 05, 2013, 06:48:10 PM
5510 on a 126E journey to Dudley this afternoon
Got a pic of 5510 in Birmingham, so made it all the way down the 126 as well
Quote from: John on September 05, 2013, 08:21:19 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 05, 2013, 06:48:10 PM
5510 on a 126E journey to Dudley this afternoon
Got a pic of 5510 in Birmingham, so made it all the way down the 126 as well
Yes it came in as a 126 then changed to do a short journey :) Think it was on all day
4567 is now in Red/White, seen on schools today looked fresh out the paintshop with Silvered wheels too.
Quote from: DOC37V on September 05, 2013, 10:45:33 PM
4567 is now in Red/White, seen on schools today looked fresh out the paintshop with Silvered wheels too.
Was going to ask if that was back. Thanks for that :) Saves me having to ask BN now :)
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 05, 2013, 08:23:25 PM
Quote from: John on September 05, 2013, 08:21:19 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 05, 2013, 06:48:10 PM
5510 on a 126E journey to Dudley this afternoon
Got a pic of 5510 in Birmingham, so made it all the way down the 126 as well
Yes it came in as a 126 then changed to do a short journey :) Think it was on all day
5510 is one of the last buses on the 126 tonight
Not sure if its been mentioned yet, 4558 has gained Nat Ex branding now :)
Quote from: Driver03 on September 08, 2013, 09:51:56 AM
Not sure if its been mentioned yet, 4558 has gained Nat Ex branding now :)
Yeah it has, alongside 1673 :)
Quote from: Driver03 on September 08, 2013, 09:51:56 AM
Not sure if its been mentioned yet, 4558 has gained Nat Ex branding now :)
Yes i mentioned it sometime last week. Saw 4558/1673 both on the same day and posted it up on here :)
4558 has gained identical fleetnames to the Ones applied recently to YW and BC tridents
Another interesting note to add 2016 has gained a name by a driver in the cab. She's been named 'Poppy'!
4595 has also gained NX fleetnames identical to BC's Tridents so thats 4558 and 4595 now at WN to have the current Logos applied over their TWM livery.
1673 also has the new fleetnames, WN must be doing the changes this week.
Also, on weeknights, is it the 19:15 or 20:15 27 journey off wolves that gets a merc?
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on September 09, 2013, 04:46:06 PM
1673 also has the new fleetnames, WN must be doing the changes this week.
Also, on weeknights, is it the 19:15 or 20:15 27 journey off wolves that gets a merc?
Yes i know Ashley. Reported 1673 along with 4558.
Think its the 19:15 journey as it comes off a 25 i think?
I didnt read it fully sorry. Thanks for the other thing
saw 2 other tridents, couldnt get over lights for 1st, but 4590 was 2nd. theres another 20 series b7 with the rattler lol
4596 has also gained NX Logos. Saw pulling in on a 126 in Wolverhampton just before 6
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 09, 2013, 05:12:01 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on September 09, 2013, 04:46:06 PM
1673 also has the new fleetnames, WN must be doing the changes this week.
Also, on weeknights, is it the 19:15 or 20:15 27 journey off wolves that gets a merc?
Yes i know Ashley. Reported 1673 along with 4558.
Think its the 19:15 journey as it comes off a 25 i think?
Well the 19:15 journey this evening had a Trident (4573) whereas the 20:15 journey had a Merc (didn't catch number) so I'd say the other way round
I did 4573 wolves to dudley matt, i should have gone out an hour later then id have got the spectra home on the 256, oops
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on September 09, 2013, 11:54:37 PM
I did 4573 wolves to dudley matt, i should have gone out an hour later then id have got the spectra home on the 256, oops
I did 2088 on the X96 to Dudley then 4573 was about to leave on the 27 as I got there at 20:10. However 4009 was about to load on the 1 so I chose that ;)
I dont know if this has been mentioned already but 2077 is on the list for Showbus this year
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on September 10, 2013, 04:25:52 PM
I dont know if this has been mentioned already but 2077 is on the list for Showbus this year
Yes Matt posted up a link a few week back of the NX buses going.
I believe 5510/14 have also been entered and 4894?
4564 has gained NX Logos now. So far i have seen 1673,4558/64/4590/5/6
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 10, 2013, 04:38:00 PM
4564 has gained NX Logos now. So far i have seen 1673,4558/64/4590/5/6
Other than the 126 branded buses, I haven't seen any with old logos.
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on September 10, 2013, 04:56:16 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 10, 2013, 04:38:00 PM
4564 has gained NX Logos now. So far i have seen 1673,4558/64/4590/5/6
Other than the 126 branded buses, I haven't seen any with old logos.
4571 still has old logos so do most of the others i haven't mentioned
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 10, 2013, 05:06:25 PM
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on September 10, 2013, 04:56:16 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 10, 2013, 04:38:00 PM
4564 has gained NX Logos now. So far i have seen 1673,4558/64/4590/5/6
Other than the 126 branded buses, I haven't seen any with old logos.
4571 still has old logos so do most of the others i haven't mentioned
Must be all avoiding me then.
4560 also has new fleetnames if thats news
About 3/4 of the Tridents I saw today had the NXWM logos. Ones I pictured were 4562, 4564, 4572, 4589 and 4595.
Also was 4001 out today, as I never saw it :(
Quote from: John on September 10, 2013, 08:38:04 PM
About 3/4 of the Tridents I saw today had the NXWM logos. Ones I pictured were 4562, 4564, 4572, 4589 and 4595.
Also was 4001 out today, as I never saw it :(
So far i have seen 4555,4558,4562,4564,4590,4595,4596 and 4572 aswell. 1662 has also gained NX logos.
4571 has kept its TWM logos which makes me think when 4608 comes back this will go in for refurb/repaint?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 10, 2013, 10:46:40 PM
Quote from: John on September 10, 2013, 08:38:04 PM
About 3/4 of the Tridents I saw today had the NXWM logos. Ones I pictured were 4562, 4564, 4572, 4589 and 4595.
Also was 4001 out today, as I never saw it :(
So far i have seen 4555,4558,4562,4564,4590,4595,4596 and 4572 aswell. 1662 has also gained NX logos.
4571 has kept its TWM logos which makes me think when 4608 comes back this will go in for refurb/repaint?
Along with 1673 :)
Noticed a LOT of Spectras on the 59 today, more than Tridents. No B5s, but there was a Merc on the afternoon peak, 1683.
4001 out on 59 today if anyone wants it
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 12, 2013, 07:22:27 PM
4001 out on 59 today if anyone wants it
Caught it earlier on. Possibly still on now.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 12, 2013, 08:17:16 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 12, 2013, 07:22:27 PM
4001 out on 59 today if anyone wants it
Caught it earlier on. Possibly still on now.
It was pulling away from Wolverhampton Bus Station as I got there and I wasn't prepared to run. I saw it out about an hour ago.
I think 2022 is back from repair, i thought I passed it on the 3 this morning
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on September 12, 2013, 09:50:26 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 12, 2013, 08:17:16 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 12, 2013, 07:22:27 PM
4001 out on 59 today if anyone wants it
Caught it earlier on. Possibly still on now.
It was pulling away from Wolverhampton Bus Station as I got there and I wasn't prepared to run. I saw it out about an hour ago.
If you saw it an hour ago at 20:50 i presume then it means its one of the 4 buses out tonight
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 12, 2013, 10:19:55 PM
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on September 12, 2013, 09:50:26 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 12, 2013, 08:17:16 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 12, 2013, 07:22:27 PM
4001 out on 59 today if anyone wants it
Caught it earlier on. Possibly still on now.
It was pulling away from Wolverhampton Bus Station as I got there and I wasn't prepared to run. I saw it out about an hour ago.
If you saw it an hour ago at 20:50 i presume then it means its one of the 4 buses out tonight
No it entered Wolverhampton bus station about 20:20 then went out of service (Nath it was the bus behind the one I caught, 4592). This is the last 59 to go out of service before the last 4 of the evening.
Oh of course! ;) That board is almost always a Spectra for some reason ;)
Any Spectras on the 59 tonight then? I know you mentioned 4567 but which are the other 3 on tonight?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 12, 2013, 10:49:59 PM
Oh of course! ;) That board is almost always a Spectra for some reason ;)
Any Spectras on the 59 tonight then? I know you mentioned 4567 but which are the other 3 on tonight?
Yes, I always ride or see that board and it's always a Spectra.
4592, 5513 and didn't see the 4th one as it was probably on its way out the city centre as I was coming in
Good old 4001..
Seen 2060 on the Smestow school run earlier, which struck me as usual being one of the 3 "Codsall clippers" (who thought that name up??!!)
4020 and another Spectra were on Wulfrun College runs (or whatever it is now). Do these do anything in the day or go back to bed for a rest?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 13, 2013, 07:06:00 PM
4166 and 4186 were done at WN weren't they alongside 4586.
That's right Nathan ;)
Quote from: John on September 13, 2013, 07:08:29 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 13, 2013, 07:06:00 PM
4166 and 4186 were done at WN weren't they alongside 4586.
That's right Nathan ;)
I knew i was sure about it ;) Thanks for the confirmation John :)
On the lines of Euro 4 Tridents 4586 has reappeared back in service after being out of action for months (Don't know what was wrong with it)
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 13, 2013, 07:15:41 PM
Quote from: John on September 13, 2013, 07:08:29 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 13, 2013, 07:06:00 PM
4166 and 4186 were done at WN weren't they alongside 4586.
That's right Nathan ;)
I knew i was sure about it ;) Thanks for the confirmation John :)
On the lines of Euro 4 Tridents 4586 has reappeared back in service after being out of action for months (Don't know what was wrong with it)
The best Trident at WN is back at last ;D
Smestow run was a Spectra this morning as it passes my house, geTting 2060 or any plastic on there is generous being an expupil of that school, i say give them 1654 the Wn shed every day.
I think these days all school buses stay in the garage in between duties
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on September 13, 2013, 08:56:49 PM
Smestow run was a Spectra this morning as it passes my house, geTting 2060 or any plastic on there is generous being an expupil of that school, i say give them 1654 the Wn shed every day.
I think these days all school buses stay in the garage in between duties
I believe one may come off another route like the 59 or 11
The 751 i think is whatevers in the garage
711 could be a mix of garage or one or two off normal service, my first bit of intelligence for the day is that something does come off the 11 as it is replaced by a B6LE off the 26
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on September 14, 2013, 06:45:17 AM
The 751 i think is whatevers in the garage
711 could be a mix of garage or one or two off normal service, my first bit of intelligence for the day is that something does come off the 11 as it is replaced by a B6LE off the 26
Yes i think a Spectra or Trident comes off the 11 and the B6 enters the bus station after finishing the last 62 which then goes onto the 11 (586 yesterday)
Are spectras on the 82 getting more common?
Quote from: the #trainbasher on September 14, 2013, 12:09:05 PM
Are spectras on the 82 getting more common?
I would still class them as unusual although they do occur quite a bit on a Saturday
Saw at least 2 on the 82 in Bilston about 1050
In that case both deckers on the 11 get pulled for B6s, i know that the 13:00 62A from town to tettenhall wood then does the 14:15 26 from wolves and return and re-enters the bus station on the 11 stand and takes up duties on the 11
I haven't been following, so apologies if it has already been answered, but what is the official allocation of Spectra.s and Hybrids to Wolverhampton routes now?
Spectra action is pretty fluid, you can get them on most routes now
Hybrids mostly the 1 and 59, with appearances elsewhere occassionally but youd have to be in the right place
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on September 15, 2013, 10:47:20 AM
Spectra action is pretty fluid, you can get them on most routes now
Hybrids mostly the 1 and 59, with appearances elsewhere occassionally but youd have to be in the right place
Doesnt a hybrid appear on the 126 at peak times ?
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 15, 2013, 11:42:03 AM
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on September 15, 2013, 10:47:20 AM
Spectra action is pretty fluid, you can get them on most routes now
Hybrids mostly the 1 and 59, with appearances elsewhere occassionally but youd have to be in the right place
Doesnt a hybrid appear on the 126 at peak times ?
Its not an official allocation but they do sometimes get taken off the 59 to replace a broken down trident :)
Spectras are mainly allocated the 11/32/3/59 and 79 however they do make regular appearances on the 27/8,255,256/7 and 529.
B5's are allocated to the 1 and 59 (5510-14 appear on the 59 as they are unbranded) and all of WNs 12 E400H are route branded for the 1 so are only allocated to the 1.
However Both b5's and E400H (Branded and Unbranded have appeared on quite a few rare workings on other WN services. The Unbranded B5's do make appearances on the 126.
Spectra's aren't used on a Sunday
Only 2 B5's on the 59 today instead of the usual three or four. The 6 Buses on there today are 4547,4556,4574,4584,5512 and 5513.
They allocated to each board as followed:
59/01-5512 (Same as Usual)
59/02-4547 (Same as Usual)
59/03-4584 (Same as Usual)
59/04-5513 (Same as usual)
59/05-4574 (Usually allocated a B5)
59/06-4556 (Can be allocated either a trident or B5 depending whether it is 4 B5's,2 Tridents or 3 B5's and 3 Tridents)
As Matt has stated in Branded Buses Off Route thread 529 branded 4599 is on the 126 today
Most of WN's Tridents in TWM Livery now have the NXWM logos applied apart from 4569/70/71/73 and the 126 branded tridents (4575/9/80/1/2/3) which makes me think these will possibly be the next WN Tridents in for repaint?
Maybe BN can say if this is correct?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 15, 2013, 06:44:39 PM
Most of WN's Tridents in TWM Livery now have the NXWM logos applied apart from 4569/70/71/73 and the 126 branded tridents (4575/9/80/1/2/3) which makes me think these will possibly be the next WN Tridents in for repaint?
Maybe BN can say if this is correct?
May have asked this already? but once the 126 is debranded do you think it will receive a new branding, yes I know not all buses that are de-branded receive new branding all the time before people jump down my throat ::)
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 15, 2013, 09:56:37 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 15, 2013, 06:44:39 PM
Most of WN's Tridents in TWM Livery now have the NXWM logos applied apart from 4569/70/71/73 and the 126 branded tridents (4575/9/80/1/2/3) which makes me think these will possibly be the next WN Tridents in for repaint?
Maybe BN can say if this is correct?
May have asked this already? but once the 126 is debranded do you think it will receive a new branding, yes I know not all buses that are de-branded receive new branding all the time before people jump down my throat ::)
Someone asked Simon about branding a little while ago and i think he said that the 9 will be the next, but nothing more is planned after that!
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 15, 2013, 10:00:16 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 15, 2013, 09:56:37 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 15, 2013, 06:44:39 PM
Most of WN's Tridents in TWM Livery now have the NXWM logos applied apart from 4569/70/71/73 and the 126 branded tridents (4575/9/80/1/2/3) which makes me think these will possibly be the next WN Tridents in for repaint?
Maybe BN can say if this is correct?
May have asked this already? but once the 126 is debranded do you think it will receive a new branding, yes I know not all buses that are de-branded receive new branding all the time before people jump down my throat ::)
Someone asked Simon about branding a little while ago and i think he said that the 9 will be the next, but nothing more is planned after that!
Thanks Stu, wonder what colour it will be
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 15, 2013, 10:02:10 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 15, 2013, 10:00:16 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 15, 2013, 09:56:37 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 15, 2013, 06:44:39 PM
Most of WN's Tridents in TWM Livery now have the NXWM logos applied apart from 4569/70/71/73 and the 126 branded tridents (4575/9/80/1/2/3) which makes me think these will possibly be the next WN Tridents in for repaint?
Maybe BN can say if this is correct?
May have asked this already? but once the 126 is debranded do you think it will receive a new branding, yes I know not all buses that are de-branded receive new branding all the time before people jump down my throat ::)
Someone asked Simon about branding a little while ago and i think he said that the 9 will be the next, but nothing more is planned after that!
Thanks Stu, wonder what colour it will be
Green again possibly!
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 15, 2013, 06:44:39 PM
Most of WN's Tridents in TWM Livery now have the NXWM logos applied apart from 4569/70/71/73 and the 126 branded tridents (4575/9/80/1/2/3) which makes me think these will possibly be the next WN Tridents in for repaint?
I would like to see the 126 branded Tridents with NXWM logos. It will be a shame when the last branded Trident is repainted, the end of that style of branding, which was so widespread 8 years ago
Quote from: John on September 15, 2013, 10:04:46 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 15, 2013, 06:44:39 PM
Most of WN's Tridents in TWM Livery now have the NXWM logos applied apart from 4569/70/71/73 and the 126 branded tridents (4575/9/80/1/2/3) which makes me think these will possibly be the next WN Tridents in for repaint?
I would like to see the 126 branded Tridents with NXWM logos. It will be a shame when the last branded Trident is repainted, the end of that style of branding, which was so widespread 8 years ago
Well BN said to me not long back to watch the 126 branded tridents (Refurbs thread) so i think they will go in for paint soon? 4569/70/1/3 are the only unbranded TWM livered Tridents to still have the TWM logos so wonder if these are next?
Also one thing to mention after some close observation i have seen that the 255/6 interwork on Sundays however the problem is the 255 times have been changed significantly to enable it to interwork with the 256 meaning the Wolverhampton-Penn Rd have now lost its joint Sunday 30 Minute frequency (255/6) with the 255 leaving at 45 past the hour and 256 (Still does) leave W'ton 15 past the hour but yhey now depart within 10-15 minutes of each other.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 15, 2013, 10:15:31 PM
Also one thing to mention after some close observation i have seen that the 255/6 interwork on Sundays however the problem is the 255 times have been changed significantly to enable it to interwork with the 256 meaning the Wolverhampton-Penn Rd have now lost its joint Sunday 30 Minute frequency (255/6) with the 255 leaving at 45 past the hour and 256 (Still does) leave W'ton 15 past the hour but yhey now depart within 10-15 minutes of each other.
I was going to mention that when I saw 2009 in Merry Hill at 1610 on the 255 having already caught it at Wordsley at 1400 to Stourbridge on the 256.
Also i caught 2003 on the 3 today however i saw it on the 4 tonight however i was never aware any journies that interworked between the 3/4.
I know the 3/6 interwork on Sundays.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 15, 2013, 10:43:30 PM
Also i caught 2003 on the 3 today however i saw it on the 4 tonight however i was never aware any journies that interworked between the 3/4.
I know the 3/6 interwork on Sundays.
On sundays 3 & 4 interwork on a 6 board (or they did untill the latest changes)
Quote from: 4006 on September 16, 2013, 08:40:00 AM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 15, 2013, 10:43:30 PM
Also i caught 2003 on the 3 today however i saw it on the 4 tonight however i was never aware any journies that interworked between the 3/4.
I know the 3/6 interwork on Sundays.
On sundays 3 & 4 interwork on a 6 board (or they did untill the latest changes)
Never noticed it on a Sunday daytime unless certain boards go onto the 4 during the evening? Where would the 4 interwork with the 3/6? Pendeford/Wobaston end?
Also one thing to mention, I was on 2066 on the 3 yesterday and instead of going straight up Market Street the driver accidentley turned up Bilston Street into the Bus Station into the 6 stand presumably thinking she was still driving a 6 (3/6 interwork)
1683 1683 4579 and 4583 now have new logos
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on September 16, 2013, 11:29:00 AM
1683 1683 4579 and 4583 now have new logos
Most of the 126 branded Tridents now have the NXWM logos, the front branding had been taken off and the logo applied there. There was no logos on the sides by the purple circle.
Quote from: John on September 16, 2013, 06:49:27 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on September 16, 2013, 11:29:00 AM
1683 1683 4579 and 4583 now have new logos
Most of the 126 branded Tridents now have the NXWM logos, the front branding had been taken off and the logo applied there. There was no logos on the sides by the purple circle.
No wonder there were no 126 branded Tridents on the 126 yesterday! They must've been in the garage being done.
BX13 JNF on 255 this evening.
Quote from: a220 on September 16, 2013, 06:54:33 PM
BX13 JNF on 255 this evening.
Really need to come back to WN, but when im there I never see workings like this ::)
Quote from: a220 on September 16, 2013, 06:54:33 PM
BX13 JNF on 255 this evening.
Explains why there was only one B5 on the 59 today with another unbranded B5 on the 1 (don't know the fleet numbers as i was told this by NXWM Spectra on here)
Wonder where the other two unbranded B5's were today?
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on September 16, 2013, 11:29:00 AM
1683 1683 4579 and 4583 now have new logos
1650, 1660, 1669 and 1676 also have NXWM logos
Quote from: John on September 16, 2013, 07:28:23 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on September 16, 2013, 11:29:00 AM
1683 1683 4579 and 4583 now have new logos
1650, 1660, 1669 and 1676 also have NXWM logos
So do 1662,1673 and 1675
4571 1654 and 1672 also have the new logos, im guessing the whole WN fleet has been done now
586 packed up again today, lost pretty much all its water and the temperature shot up while it did the 26, didnt make it on to the 15:30 11 to underhill as it was returned to Park Lane, a merc packed up this morning and 1676 had the engingeering Transit behind it at 15:15
Last time i checked the other day 4569/70/1/3 all still had TWM logos
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 16, 2013, 08:52:06 PM
Last time i checked the other day 4569/70/1/3 all still had TWM logos
But with more buses in the garage yesterday on a Sunday, they might have all been done by now. I did not see any Wolverhampton bus without the NXWM logo today.
Quote from: John on September 16, 2013, 08:53:21 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 16, 2013, 08:52:06 PM
Last time i checked the other day 4569/70/1/3 all still had TWM logos
But with more buses in the garage yesterday on a Sunday, they might have all been done by now. I did not see any Wolverhampton bus without the NXWM logo today.
Will this mean they are going to stop repainting WN's Tridents for now?
I would have thought 4569/70/1//2/3 would have been repainted next.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 16, 2013, 09:02:54 PM
Will this mean they are going to stop repainting WN's Tridents for now?
I would have thought 4569/70/1//2/3 would have been repainted next.
I would not think so, all buses will have to have the NXWM logos, if they are going for repaint or not
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 16, 2013, 09:02:54 PM
Quote from: John on September 16, 2013, 08:53:21 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 16, 2013, 08:52:06 PM
Last time i checked the other day 4569/70/1/3 all still had TWM logos
But with more buses in the garage yesterday on a Sunday, they might have all been done by now. I did not see any Wolverhampton bus without the NXWM logo today.
Will this mean they are going to stop repainting WN's Tridents for now?
I would have thought 4569/70/1//2/3 would have been repainted next.
Well I would expect that these logos are just temporary as they can't be that expensive, they will still probably carry on repainting them but the applying of the new logos was to get all the fleet at least carrying the same logo
Thanks John and Matt for the info :)
Quote from: John on September 16, 2013, 08:53:21 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 16, 2013, 08:52:06 PM
Last time i checked the other day 4569/70/1/3 all still had TWM logos
But with more buses in the garage yesterday on a Sunday, they might have all been done by now. I did not see any Wolverhampton bus without the NXWM logo today.
There was a 45xx Trident on the 256/7 with TWM logos.
B5 on the 126 this evening. 4536 and 5513 are 2 of the 4 buses on the 59 tonight.
Quote from: 4006 on September 16, 2013, 08:40:00 AM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 15, 2013, 10:43:30 PM
Also i caught 2003 on the 3 today however i saw it on the 4 tonight however i was never aware any journies that interworked between the 3/4.
I know the 3/6 interwork on Sundays.
On sundays 3 & 4 interwork on a 6 board (or they did untill the latest changes)
Not 100% on how sundays work as the 3/4 does the 6 at some point, assuming off Pendeford, but the 3/4 interwork in an evening works as the 3 to Fordhouses, empty cars to Pendeford, 4 to Spring Hill and back, empty cars to Fordhouses, 3 to Castlecroft and back and so on. using 3 vehicles. Scooped most of my Volvo's on that as when you go round Chapel Ash on the 3, the 4 that works the 3 90mins later off Wolvo is heading to Spring Hill. so if it was a winner, time for a couple of pints in the Lych Gate Tavern :D
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 17, 2013, 10:04:32 PM
B5 on the 126 this evening. 4536 and 5513 are 2 of the 4 buses on the 59 tonight.
Pretty sure the B5 went off early evening, however 2015 is on there.
The other two buses on the 59 are 4592 and 4009.
It did come off when it got back to town at half 7 because 4551 was the next bus out on the 126 at that time and it wasnt in the bus station when i went past on a milkfloat (hybrid) :D
Caught the 0915 256 ex Kingswinford to Stourbridge this morning. Full and standing as usual because of the bloody college students. Why can't they duplicate it as I am fed up of having to stand in uncomfortable positions (like today I had to stand with the handrail in a uncomfortable position.
Its not like one can get into work later (although the traffic on route causes me to be even more late!)
Quote from: the #trainbasher on September 18, 2013, 04:29:12 PM
Caught the 0915 256 ex Kingswinford to Stourbridge this morning. Full and standing as usual because of the bloody college students. Why can't they duplicate it as I am fed up of having to stand in uncomfortable positions (like today I had to stand with the handrail in a uncomfortable position.
Its not like one can get into work later (although the traffic on route causes me to be even more late!)
I know exactly what you're on about. Luckily my local has duplicates. Problem is they wouldn't fund dupes has I bet without the college it isn't busy enough to pay for it. I could be wrong though.
1686 will do the 21:15 27 off wolves if anyone will be out that time. Sadly im too tired otherwise i would be
Even WN are feeling the pinch, Inspector driving my 126
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on September 20, 2013, 03:02:59 PM
Even WN are feeling the pinch, Inspector driving my 126
Do you mean the Jamaican guy? As he has a lookalike who drives the 126 regularly, may have been him you saw
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on September 20, 2013, 05:48:02 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 20, 2013, 05:34:02 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on September 20, 2013, 03:02:59 PM
Even WN are feeling the pinch, Inspector driving my 126
Do you mean the Jamaican guy? As he has a lookalike who drives the 126 regularly, may have
I know who Matt is on about. One of the inspectors who is regually in the bus station (Seem him one saturday driving on the 59)
I have removed one post because of a racist phrase used.
I don't think the post was meant as racist, but the phrase used is regularly used as a racist remark
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on September 20, 2013, 03:02:59 PM
Even WN are feeling the pinch, Inspector driving my 126
Maybe so ...maybe there are some staff on holiday, sick or suspended even. Sometimes the Inspectors drive to 'help out' and well if its a bit of overtime for them to well good on them. At least it helps to maintain service delivery, people are to quick to moan when a bus is late or missing but they do not have a clue about the pressure and difficulties involved in trying to keep all the buses running (never mind runnning on time!)
P.S this is not a dig at anyone, just my opinion.......I really should stop that :-P
Anybody know if any mercs are doing any 27s tonight?
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on September 21, 2013, 06:55:32 PM
Anybody know if any mercs are doing any 27s tonight?
I saw a b7 in sedgley then a b7 on a 27E by blind centre and a trident when i got to wolvo at 6:20ish
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on September 21, 2013, 06:55:32 PM
Anybody know if any mercs are doing any 27s tonight?
Might be on the 21:15 journey that comes off a 25 :)
Just heard 4007 has been withdrawn.
Why has 4007 been withdrawn ?
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 23, 2013, 10:06:11 PM
Why has 4007 been withdrawn ?
Major mechanical issue is all I know. I'm not an engineer. But apparently it would be uneconomical to repair it. It was towed away today
That's a shame, didn't even know it was broke
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 23, 2013, 10:13:30 PM
That's a shame, didn't even know it was broke
It only happened today
First Spectra withdrawal, excluding 4014, this marks a very sad day as a huge Spectra fan, I'm going to make sure I get them all again in the next few weeks then :(
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on September 23, 2013, 10:18:21 PM
First Spectra withdrawal, excluding 4014, this marks a very sad day as a huge Spectra fan, I'm going to make sure I get them all again in the next few weeks then :(
I don't think any others will follow it any time soon, this one just had a major incident today, something to do with the gearbox, it would need a new floor and other things to be repaired and wasn't worth the money in NXWM's eyes
Maybe this is a sign to ride the spectras before they go
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 23, 2013, 10:30:51 PM
Maybe this is a sign to ride the spectras before they go
It could help the spectra fleet survive a bit longer if this bus can provide lots of spares to keep the rest on the road as didnt someone previously mention that spares had become expensive...
Quote from: DiamondDart on September 23, 2013, 10:33:33 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 23, 2013, 10:30:51 PM
Maybe this is a sign to ride the spectras before they go
It could help the spectra fleet survive a bit longer if this bus can provide lots of spares to keep the rest on the road as didnt someone previously mention that spares had become expensive...
Well with all the new buses arriving in 2014 i can see the Spectras being Withdrawn. That will be a sad day when they go
I can categorically guarantee that Spectras are here for a while longer yet! There be no mass exodus.
Quote from: DiamondDart on September 23, 2013, 10:33:33 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 23, 2013, 10:30:51 PM
Maybe this is a sign to ride the spectras before they go
It could help the spectra fleet survive a bit longer if this bus can provide lots of spares to keep the rest on the road as didnt someone previously mention that spares had become expensive...
4007 should be at Miller Street now so I'm not sure
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 24, 2013, 02:03:29 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on September 23, 2013, 10:33:33 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 23, 2013, 10:30:51 PM
Maybe this is a sign to ride the spectras before they go
It could help the spectra fleet survive a bit longer if this bus can provide lots of spares to keep the rest on the road as didnt someone previously mention that spares had become expensive...
4007 should be at Miller Street now so I'm not sure
Well it can be used for spares wherever it is and with 130 buses per year or even up to 150, assuming all mercs/b6s/b10s/darts are withdrawn before the spectras, they have a while to go yet
B10's are nearly finished, just WA + YW with them, then I guess the darts will not be too far behind them
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 24, 2013, 02:08:33 PM
B10's are nearly finished, just WA + YW with them, then I guess the darts will not be too far behind them
They do seem a bit knackered the remaining darts-still twm has had nearly 8 years use out of them here
Quote from: DiamondDart on September 24, 2013, 02:25:07 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 24, 2013, 02:08:33 PM
B10's are nearly finished, just WA + YW with them, then I guess the darts will not be too far behind them
They do seem a bit knackered the remaining darts-still twm has had nearly 8 years use out of them here
There good little buses they are :) not much leg room though
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 24, 2013, 04:52:16 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on September 24, 2013, 02:25:07 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 24, 2013, 02:08:33 PM
B10's are nearly finished, just WA + YW with them, then I guess the darts will not be too far behind them
They do seem a bit knackered the remaining darts-still twm has had nearly 8 years use out of them here
There good little buses they are :) not much leg room though
They served the 444 very well when that service existed. Certainly showing their age now though
4007 is now parked up at Miller Street.
Went hunting for Spectras today in Wolverhampton and 4001 shows up on the 32, so I caught that, and then when I got back to Wolves 4002 is there on the 529, although I let that one go because it was full. Didn't expect to see either of those two, let alone both!
Also caught 5513 on the 126, sat upstairs at the front and it sounds like there is a hole in the panelling somewhere, every time the bus got up to any sort of speed, there was a blowing sound coming from behind the lights/roof panels
Quote from: N94 on September 25, 2013, 07:05:10 PM
Went hunting for Spectras today in Wolverhampton and 4001 shows up on the 32, so I caught that, and then when I got back to Wolves 4002 is there on the 529, although I let that one go because it was full. Didn't expect to see either of those two, let alone both!
Also caught 5513 on the 126, sat upstairs at the front and it sounds like there is a hole in the panelling somewhere, every time the bus got up to any sort of speed, there was a blowing sound coming from behind the lights/roof panels
One of the WN B5s (may have been 5510 but can't remember as it was a while ago) had a hole about the width of a 2p coin near the front right upstairs seats (low down, near the corner) through which you could see the outside world! I think that's been fixed now though. Shows the superior quality of the Enviros though, as they don't have issues like these
I'm not sure what they are for, but the holes are supposed to be there. They are on all Geminis, Enviros and Tridents too. You can see them on the exteriors too. A little round shallow tube type thing.
Quote from: Gareth on September 25, 2013, 07:50:12 PM
I'm not sure what they are for, but the holes are supposed to be there. They are on all Geminis, Enviros and Tridents too. You can see them on the exteriors too. A little round shallow tube type thing.
Isnt it to drain out water if the top deck has water on it-ie theory is that the hole allows water/liquid if we're talking certain routes :P to drain out. Problem is, theyre always filled up with rubbish. I guess its to avoid what you had on the H LOM scanias where I remember going on one when very young upstairs and everytime the driver breaked, water sloshed to the front of the bus!!
I assumed it was for water drainage. But you don't see much water on buses anymore. (Probably because of the drainage holes!)
Quote from: Gareth on September 25, 2013, 07:55:42 PM
I assumed it was for water drainage. But you don't see much water on buses anymore. (Probably because of the drainage holes!)
The B7TL Gemini's also have them
Quote from: Gareth on September 25, 2013, 07:55:42 PM
I assumed it was for water drainage. But you don't see much water on buses anymore. (Probably because of the drainage holes!)
No you dont Gareth-the LOM scanias, metrobuses and lynxes always used to be drenched-always remember the LOMs on the bristol road being really wet upstairs when the weather was bad. The water didnt shift and just raced back and forth on the murky brown coloured floors they had if Im right?
Don't know if the still do it, but in days gone by, the cleaners used to use a watering can and put water down to lay the dust when they swept off. Probably moved on from that these days though.
I don't think buses even get swept these days. Certainly doesn't seem that way on some routes! ;)
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 25, 2013, 07:10:30 PM
Quote from: N94 on September 25, 2013, 07:05:10 PM
Went hunting for Spectras today in Wolverhampton and 4001 shows up on the 32, so I caught that, and then when I got back to Wolves 4002 is there on the 529, although I let that one go because it was full. Didn't expect to see either of those two, let alone both!
Also caught 5513 on the 126, sat upstairs at the front and it sounds like there is a hole in the panelling somewhere, every time the bus got up to any sort of speed, there was a blowing sound coming from behind the lights/roof panels
One of the WN B5s (may have been 5510 but can't remember as it was a while ago) had a hole about the width of a 2p coin near the front right upstairs seats (low down, near the corner) through which you could see the outside world! I think that's been fixed now though. Shows the superior quality of the Enviros though, as they don't have issues like these
I'm impartial and like both Hybrid types but regarding "superior quality" most drivers on here refer to the poor quality bodywork and rattles of the E400s compared with the Volvos. The drainage holes are on all deckers as stated in other posts.
The holes are actually there for when the triffids start spraying their thing; upper saloon passengers die first.
Joke. (I'm sure it tickled Mike K...)
Yeah just drain holes. Its funny to see the tube of water spurting out from the hole. Many a fun hour I spent wetting folk! Wouldn't get away with it now.
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 25, 2013, 07:10:30 PM
Quote from: N94 on September 25, 2013, 07:05:10 PM
Went hunting for Spectras today in Wolverhampton and 4001 shows up on the 32, so I caught that, and then when I got back to Wolves 4002 is there on the 529, although I let that one go because it was full. Didn't expect to see either of those two, let alone both!
Also caught 5513 on the 126, sat upstairs at the front and it sounds like there is a hole in the panelling somewhere, every time the bus got up to any sort of speed, there was a blowing sound coming from behind the lights/roof panels
One of the WN B5s (may have been 5510 but can't remember as it was a while ago) had a hole about the width of a 2p coin near the front right upstairs seats (low down, near the corner) through which you could see the outside world! I think that's been fixed now though. Shows the superior quality of the Enviros though, as they don't have issues like these
;D superior quality and Enviro 400H in the same sentence? Most of ours leak water through the electrics and radio if liquid is spilt upstairs at the front, showering the driver in the process! Does really happen too.
Well with everything there are exceptions to the rule, overall I much prefer Volvo/Wright products but currently on 4572 and it has to be the best Trident I've been on, it is so so smooth and hardly any body rattle at all, all it needs is a refurb and it will be brilliant
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on September 27, 2013, 12:21:27 PM
Well with everything there are exceptions to the rule, overall I much prefer Volvo/Wright products but currently on 4572 and it has to be the best Trident I've been on, it is so so smooth and hardly any body rattle at all, all it needs is a refurb and it will be brilliant
Tbh 4572 isn't a bad Voith trident at all. 4575 and 4578 are the best WN Voith by far (4575 for speed and 4578 for sound)
Is it likely that 600 will return to service? Also has anybody seen 598 recently?
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on September 29, 2013, 09:50:09 AM
Is it likely that 600 will return to service? Also has anybody seen 598 recently?
What happened to 600 Ashley? I've seen 600 recently, not 598 though.
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on September 29, 2013, 09:50:09 AM
Is it likely that 600 will return to service? Also has anybody seen 598 recently?
Saw 598 on Friday on the 82
Aparantly 600 hasnt been used for a month for reasons unknown.
Haven't seen 600 at WN, according to my list ive got a picture but not at WN, but then again I havent been looking out for it
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on September 29, 2013, 12:06:05 PM
Aparantly 600 hasnt been used for a month for reasons unknown.
I've definitely seen it less than a month ago in Wolverhampton
Ok then, maybe not a month but for a number of weeks 600 hasnt seen any use other than a shunt round the yard
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on September 29, 2013, 12:52:36 PM
Ok then, maybe not a month but for a number of weeks 600 hasnt seen any use other than a shunt round the yard
Shame, hope it's not the end of another B6 :(
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 29, 2013, 12:42:18 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on September 29, 2013, 12:06:05 PM
Aparantly 600 hasnt been used for a month for reasons unknown.
I've definitely seen it less than a month ago in Wolverhampton
Yes, was a regular on the 27 till recently, shame, had a very tidy interior that one
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on September 29, 2013, 01:01:52 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 29, 2013, 12:42:18 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on September 29, 2013, 12:06:05 PM
Aparantly 600 hasnt been used for a month for reasons unknown.
I've definitely seen it less than a month ago in Wolverhampton
Yes, was a regular on the 27 till recently, shame, had a very tidy interior that one
Must be hope for it, it's not gone to Miller Street or the Car Park yet!
Do the AM peak 126s go out of service in Birmingham? There were a few Tridents heading back up the Hagley Road not in service the other day, would have thought it would make sense to do another trip back to Wolverhampton? I think this would have been about 9 to quarter past.
Quote from: N94 on September 29, 2013, 09:34:48 PM
Do the AM peak 126s go out of service in Birmingham? There were a few Tridents heading back up the Hagley Road not in service the other day, would have thought it would make sense to do another trip back to Wolverhampton? I think this would have been about 9 to quarter past.
Just checked the timetable, and there don't appear to be any journeys into Birmingham on the 126 which don't have a corresponding journey back to Wolverhampton, were they definately WN ones?
Quote from: N94 on September 29, 2013, 09:34:48 PM
Do the AM peak 126s go out of service in Birmingham? There were a few Tridents heading back up the Hagley Road not in service the other day, would have thought it would make sense to do another trip back to Wolverhampton? I think this would have been about 9 to quarter past.
Might be running late ones? AVL adjustment? Especially at that time.
Quote from: N94 on September 29, 2013, 09:34:48 PM
Do the AM peak 126s go out of service in Birmingham? There were a few Tridents heading back up the Hagley Road not in service the other day, would have thought it would make sense to do another trip back to Wolverhampton? I think this would have been about 9 to quarter past.
They were probably late running 126s which went out of service and travelled back to Wolverhampton to start the next service from there. That happens sometimes
Quote from: Sh4166 on September 29, 2013, 09:42:38 PM
Quote from: N94 on September 29, 2013, 09:34:48 PM
Do the AM peak 126s go out of service in Birmingham? There were a few Tridents heading back up the Hagley Road not in service the other day, would have thought it would make sense to do another trip back to Wolverhampton? I think this would have been about 9 to quarter past.
They were probably late running 126s which went out of service and travelled back to Wolverhampton to start the next service from there. That happens sometimes
More than likely, never seen the 126 do it, but there are 2 or 3 9s that run back empty from City to PE!
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 29, 2013, 09:44:15 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on September 29, 2013, 09:42:38 PM
Quote from: N94 on September 29, 2013, 09:34:48 PM
Do the AM peak 126s go out of service in Birmingham? There were a few Tridents heading back up the Hagley Road not in service the other day, would have thought it would make sense to do another trip back to Wolverhampton? I think this would have been about 9 to quarter past.
They were probably late running 126s which went out of service and travelled back to Wolverhampton to start the next service from there. That happens sometimes
More than likely, never seen the 126 do it, but there are 2 or 3 9s that run back empty from City to PE!
I've seen it happen a few times. The 126 is that unreliable sometimes that it doesn't really surprise me
Never seen any hagley rd services run out of service from town, seen them heading to town. How long does it take a 126 to get to WN running dead from Birmingham
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 29, 2013, 09:51:59 PM
Never seen any hagley rd services run out of service from town, seen them heading to town. How long does it take a 126 to get to WN running dead from Birmingham
Over an hour atleast. Even today there were 2 126's (4576 and 4540) running in a row even with a 20 minute frequency!
Some 126 journies run dead from Park Lane to Dudley then to do a trip from Dudley back to Wolverhampton
Well the 126 has been so badly effected by the New Dudley Road closure at the moment, all it takes is for an 87 to be waiting to turn right across the traffic to rejoin its normal route and the tailbacks become immense down to Birchley Island as the dual carriageway cuts down to one lane as the whole right hand lane is full of cars, lorries and Gemini's! Waiting to turn right, the sooner that road is re-opened the better as it is causing chaos, right round the Island, and routes 87 then indirectly 82, 126 and the 4 are all in trouble, the other day there were 3 Omnilinks all heading the same way trying to get across to Blackheath
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 29, 2013, 09:40:44 PM
Quote from: N94 on September 29, 2013, 09:34:48 PM
Do the AM peak 126s go out of service in Birmingham? There were a few Tridents heading back up the Hagley Road not in service the other day, would have thought it would make sense to do another trip back to Wolverhampton? I think this would have been about 9 to quarter past.
Just checked the timetable, and there don't appear to be any journeys into Birmingham on the 126 which don't have a corresponding journey back to Wolverhampton, were they definately WN ones?
45** and 460* so I assume so
Have any B6LEs made it onto the 81, as I have never seen any on there nor heard any workings off anyone else.
Quote from: John on October 01, 2013, 11:06:36 PM
Have any B6LEs made it onto the 81, as I have never seen any on there nor heard any workings off anyone else.
Plenty John, it's by no means a daily thing but one does appear every so often. I remember seeing 600 on there not so long back.
You do get more B7RLEs on there than B6LEs though, 2066 (I think) was on there today.
5510 left merry hill 1919 not in service
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 02, 2013, 09:53:46 PM
The 59 Morning Peak board is now 59/09 (Used to be 59/11). This was operated by 2011 today
Are the same journeys on there?
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on October 03, 2013, 02:55:21 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 02, 2013, 09:53:46 PM
The 59 Morning Peak board is now 59/09 (Used to be 59/11). This was operated by 2011 today
Are the same journeys on there?
Yes although i think it may start abit earlier
Interestingly, someone mentioned a week or so ago, that they had seen WN Tridents travelling empty from City, well today i saw two WN Tridents travelling into City (NIS) at lunchtime. Missed one fleet number, but the other was 4555.
I was on 4587 at the time, which desperately needs a paint / refurb, was rattling and shaking like a good one.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 08, 2013, 06:30:16 PM
Interestingly, someone mentioned a week or so ago, that they had seen WN Tridents travelling empty from City, well today i saw two WN Tridents travelling into City (NIS) at lunchtime. Missed one fleet number, but the other was 4555.
I was on 4587 at the time, which desperately needs a paint / refurb, was rattling and shaking like a good one.
4555 was on the 256/257 this morning but was replaced by a Merc at 1230 at Wolverhampton Bus Station.
Quote from: Roy on October 08, 2013, 08:31:01 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 08, 2013, 06:30:16 PM
Interestingly, someone mentioned a week or so ago, that they had seen WN Tridents travelling empty from City, well today i saw two WN Tridents travelling into City (NIS) at lunchtime. Missed one fleet number, but the other was 4555.
I was on 4587 at the time, which desperately needs a paint / refurb, was rattling and shaking like a good one.
4555 was on the 256/257 this morning but was replaced by a Merc at 1230 at Wolverhampton Bus Station.
well it passed me at Bearwood going into City at 1315 (approx), and it was being driven by a driver, not a mechanic???
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 08, 2013, 08:37:53 PM
Quote from: Roy on October 08, 2013, 08:31:01 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 08, 2013, 06:30:16 PM
Interestingly, someone mentioned a week or so ago, that they had seen WN Tridents travelling empty from City, well today i saw two WN Tridents travelling into City (NIS) at lunchtime. Missed one fleet number, but the other was 4555.
I was on 4587 at the time, which desperately needs a paint / refurb, was rattling and shaking like a good one.
4555 was on the 256/257 this morning but was replaced by a Merc at 1230 at Wolverhampton Bus Station.
well it passed me at Bearwood going into City at 1315 (approx), and it was being driven by a driver, not a mechanic???
Probably find a Trident broke down on the 126 and only a Merc was spare, so rather than put the Merc on the 126, they swapped 4555 from the 256/7 to the 126 and put the Merc on the 256/7
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 08, 2013, 09:44:06 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 08, 2013, 08:37:53 PM
Quote from: Roy on October 08, 2013, 08:31:01 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 08, 2013, 06:30:16 PM
Interestingly, someone mentioned a week or so ago, that they had seen WN Tridents travelling empty from City, well today i saw two WN Tridents travelling into City (NIS) at lunchtime. Missed one fleet number, but the other was 4555.
I was on 4587 at the time, which desperately needs a paint / refurb, was rattling and shaking like a good one.
4555 was on the 256/257 this morning but was replaced by a Merc at 1230 at Wolverhampton Bus Station.
well it passed me at Bearwood going into City at 1315 (approx), and it was being driven by a driver, not a mechanic???
Quite possible Matt. To be honest, i was quite surprised at the number of 126s about, there seemed more about than 9s :) :)
Probably find a Trident broke down on the 126 and only a Merc was spare, so rather than put the Merc on the 126, they swapped 4555 from the 256/7 to the 126 and put the Merc on the 256/7
If im right, the Merc they put on was 1670, it came into the bus station around that time, it came onto stand A with 751 on the front and side then went into service
Just to add, 638 has had its gearbox problems fixed, still a scrapheap that can barely move.
Also 4567 is having gearbox issues, it also recieved attention this morning for a water leak but was soon back on the road and stayed out until end of service on 11/32/33
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on October 08, 2013, 11:50:23 PM
Just to add, 638 has had its gearbox problems fixed, still a scrapheap that can barely move.
Also 4567 is having gearbox issues, it also recieved attention this morning for a water leak but was soon back on the road and stayed out until end of service on 11/32/33
I have also noticed the rear Dot Matrix display still hasn't been fixed on 4567
Please pm me with anything like this gents and I will do my best to get it rectified
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on October 08, 2013, 11:47:12 PM
If im right, the Merc they put on was 1670, it came into the bus station around that time, it came onto stand A with 751 on the front and side then went into service
Yes it was indeed 1670, I narrowly missed catching it in Stourbridge thanks to delays caused by school traffic >:(
Saw 1672 today now with NXWM logos, and I just want to say how smart it looks, still in its first livery
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/10190995683/
Quote from: John on October 10, 2013, 05:05:14 PM
Saw 1672 today now with NXWM logos, and I just want to say how smart it looks, still in its first livery
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/10190995683/
Gained NX logos at the same time as the other Mercs were done John :)
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 10, 2013, 05:09:34 PM
Gained NX logos at the same time as the other Mercs were done John :)
Never said it hadn't. Just the first time I have seen it, and remarking that it looks smart with them ;)
Quote from: John on October 10, 2013, 05:14:11 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 10, 2013, 05:09:34 PM
Gained NX logos at the same time as the other Mercs were done John :)
Never said it hadn't. Just the first time I have seen it, and remarking that it looks smart with them ;)
Oh Ok :) Just saying just incase you weren't aware ;) The TWM logos were fading on 1672 so i agree with you that it looks smart with NX logos
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 10, 2013, 05:18:59 PM
Oh Ok :) Just saying just incase you weren't aware ;) The TWM logos were fading on 1672 so i agree with you that it looks smart with NX logos
Thanks anyway Nathan. It was the one Wolves O405N I really wanted to see today as I knew it would have the NXWM logos, and my luck was in for a change :)
Anymore WN buses you need to find John? If so i will be on the lookout ;)
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 10, 2013, 05:24:40 PM
Anymore WN buses you need to find John? If so i will be on the lookout ;)
The only other one is 4001, but the next time I an in Wolverhampton, but this will not be until I get my usual camera back from been repaired.
I'll put a message in this thread when I am in Wolverhampton. Thanks for that Nathan ;D
Quote from: John on October 10, 2013, 05:26:22 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 10, 2013, 05:24:40 PM
Anymore WN buses you need to find John? If so i will be on the lookout ;)
The only other one is 4001, but the next time I an in Wolverhampton, but this will not be until I get my usual camera back from been repaired.
I'll put a message in this thread when I am in Wolverhampton. Thanks for that Nathan ;D
Seems to be on the 59 most of the time and is one that regually turns up when i catch the 59 so will be on the lookout for you John :)
However haven't seen it much over the past week apart from once on the 59 last week but their tends to be more tridents on the 59 over Spectras
Anyone wondering where 4001 was today, It was on the 59 (Caught it earlier)
Belive it came off and went back to garage
Quote from: domino.99 on October 12, 2013, 09:13:44 PM
Belive it came off and went back to garage
Yes i know :) Quite a few boards on the 59 on Saturdays finish between 4 and 6PM usually going back to garage from the bus station
Quote from: John on October 10, 2013, 05:26:22 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 10, 2013, 05:24:40 PM
Anymore WN buses you need to find John? If so i will be on the lookout ;)
The only other one is 4001, but the next time I an in Wolverhampton, but this will not be until I get my usual camera back from been repaired.
I'll put a message in this thread when I am in Wolverhampton. Thanks for that Nathan ;D
If anyone sees 4001 tomorrow morning, can they please say what route it is on. Planning to go to Wolverhampton tomorrow. Thanks :)
Will look out for it on the 59 tommorow John :)
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 13, 2013, 09:42:52 PM
Will look out for it on the 59 tommorow John :)
Thanks Nathan ;D
Quote from: John on October 13, 2013, 10:06:09 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 13, 2013, 09:42:52 PM
Will look out for it on the 59 tommorow John :)
Thanks Nathan ;D
Well i am at School but i can see all the buses from my class so i will look out for it :)
Best places to look are the 11/32/3,59,79 however the 25,28 and 529 are also good places to look also
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 13, 2013, 10:14:46 PM
Quote from: John on October 13, 2013, 10:06:09 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 13, 2013, 09:42:52 PM
Will look out for it on the 59 tommorow John :)
Thanks Nathan ;D
Well i am at School but i can see all the buses from my class so i will look out for it :)
Best places to look are the 11/32/3,59,79 however the 25,28 and 529 are also good places to look also
There was one Spectra on the 529 on Friday seen it in Walsall but couldn't get Fleet Number
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 13, 2013, 10:14:46 PM
Best places to look are the 11/32/3,59,79 however the 25,28 and 529 are also good places to look also
Thanks Nathan. Will do. Anyone seen 4001 this morning?
Its on the 58 John
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 14, 2013, 02:02:28 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on October 14, 2013, 01:08:38 PM
Its on the 58 John
You mean the 59 I assume?
Thanks Ashley. I did not even have to search for it, as I got off the 529 in the bus station, 4001 was two stops in front loading. Managed to snap it on Queen Street
Quote from: John on October 14, 2013, 08:27:58 AM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 13, 2013, 10:14:46 PM
Best places to look are the 11/32/3,59,79 however the 25,28 and 529 are also good places to look also
Thanks Nathan. Will do. Anyone seen 4001 this morning?
As i said it would most likley be on the 59 and i saw it on the 59 this afternoon
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 13, 2013, 10:14:46 PM
Best places to look are the 11/32/3,59,79 however the 25,28 and 529 are also good places to look also
Managed to get on 4015 from Walsall to Wolverhampton on the 529. Apart from the badly etched upper deck windows, it is in good nick. The only Spectra on the 529 today :)
Its usually one spectra a day on the 529 John, any more would be noteable
I caught 4005 on the 529 last Thursday.... just because it was a spectra and travelled from Walsall to Willenhall... Was going to Pelsall but couldnt resist a spectra, was in very good condition, warm, clean floor and windows. Caught a branded 45?? back to Walsall and also warm and clean..
Yep Spectra's heating is fab, far better than pretty much all the freezing WN Tridents, only problem comes in the Summer when it often comes on to release engine heat
I agree, spectras are great vehicles in their own right, only downsides are the vandalism and fading exrerior paintwork
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on October 14, 2013, 09:00:24 PM
I agree, spectras are great vehicles in their own right, only downsides are the vandalism and fading exrerior paintwork
I completely agree aswell great vehicles its just the vandalism and exterior paint work thats the downside :)
2068 still on the 59 tonight (One of the last 4 buses). I was out about 19:30 and 4013,4569,4573,5510,5513 and 2068 were out. 4013 i belive went out of service about 20:25 at Wolverhampton Bus Station, This board seems to be always Spectra operated
Does anybody know why WN are so generous as to giving the 11 four double deckers most days, when 5 B6LE's would do the job just fine, those deckers could be used on routes like the 2, 3, 4, 3 and 10 which I personally believe could do with some extra capacity
one decker goes on the 11 off a school between 9.30 and 15.30 or thereabouts. there seems to be lots of weird allocations at the min. for example, a trident was on the 28 this afternoon.
That particular board can be anything, for the majority of the last week, four deckers on the 11 I think is abit too generous when other routes could use them, maybe a trident is a step down from a 61 plate volvo thing but still, the deckers have the capacity those routes need
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on October 14, 2013, 10:36:31 PM
Does anybody know why WN are so generous as to giving the 11 four double deckers most days, when 5 B6LE's would do the job just fine, those deckers could be used on routes like the 2, 3, 4, 3 and 10 which I personally believe could do with some extra capacity
Ashley, B7RLE's can only be used on the 10 because they are the only buses at WN that can activatle the Bus Lane into Perton.
Tbh Routes like the 126,59,79,255/6/7 have been seeing Single deckers recently with routes like 27/A,28,11,32 and 33 have been seeing tridents and Spectras.
Btw if anyone was wondering where 4001 was today it was working the 27A
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 15, 2013, 06:43:50 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on October 14, 2013, 10:36:31 PM
Does anybody know why WN are so generous as to giving the 11 four double deckers most days, when 5 B6LE's would do the job just fine, those deckers could be used on routes like the 2, 3, 4, 3 and 10 which I personally believe could do with some extra capacity
Btw if anyone was wondering where 4001 was today it was working the 27A
Must be back to full fighting fitness then as the 27 is a bit of a workout compared to the 59!
Have noticed that 4001 does usually stick to the 59 along with sometimes the 11/32/3 so the 27/A is quite different from its usual routes
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 15, 2013, 07:12:10 PM
Have noticed that 4001 does usually stick to the 59 along with sometimes the 11/32/3 so the 27/A is quite different from its usual routes
4001 was on the 27/25 tonight, this may be different from its usual routes but it was only there because it was a replacement bus. It came on the 27 at 5pm although I'm not sure which bus it replaced.
4001 and 4002 on the 59 today if anybodys looking
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on October 16, 2013, 11:40:16 AM
4001 and 4002 on the 59 today if anybodys looking
Never saw 4001 and only saw 4002 on the 59? What time did you see 4001?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 16, 2013, 06:08:34 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on October 16, 2013, 11:40:16 AM
4001 and 4002 on the 59 today if anybodys looking
I didn't see 4001 either. Sure you didn't see 4002 returning?
Never saw 4001 and only saw 4002 on the 59? What time did you see 4001?
4 1's running in absolute convoy this evening, 5516, 5412, 5418 and 5512 has there been an accident or something on the route or just bad traffic?
Quote from: uniquicity on October 17, 2013, 05:13:36 PM
Think that would have done the 15.45 from Bartley Green. Looks like it replaced 4637 then (same board as the 09.32 from West Bromwich which 4637 was on)
Think you've replied to my wrong post!
Crash In The Bus Station Sat Night approx 9pm on the 19th Oct involving a Diamond Dart and I think 4563 on the 255/6 stand. I don't know the details accurately but it appears that the diamond bus left the stand and collided with a the NX Trident as it was passing but as I say that's what it looked like to me. I saw the Trident later running private with a missing window and a nice little crease just past the door on the n.s :o
Quote from: 4006 on October 20, 2013, 10:00:09 AM
Crash In The Bus Station Sat Night approx 9pm on the 19th Oct involving a Diamond Dart and I think 4563 on the 255/6 stand. I don't know the details accurately but it appears that the diamond bus left the stand and collided with a the NX Trident as it was passing but as I say that's what it looked like to me. I saw the Trident later running private with a missing window and a nice little crease just past the door on the n.s :o
Well i don't know what 4563 would be doing on the 255/6 stand last night as it was on the 59 last night
Quote from: 4006 on October 20, 2013, 10:00:09 AM
Crash In The Bus Station Sat Night approx 9pm on the 19th Oct involving a Diamond Dart and I think 4563 on the 255/6 stand. I don't know the details accurately but it appears that the diamond bus left the stand and collided with a the NX Trident as it was passing but as I say that's what it looked like to me. I saw the Trident later running private with a missing window and a nice little crease just past the door on the n.s :o
I bet I know what that was. The 81 uses the stand behind the 255/256. The 81 operated by Diamond departs Wolverhampton at 10 minutes past the hour and the 256 at 15 minutes past the hour. At 21:10 the Dart driver pulls off, does not check his mirrors or somehow does not notice a great big Trident coming to pull into the stand in front to load on the 256.
In response to Nathan post about 4001, i cant remember the exact time, would have been mid morning i think
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on October 20, 2013, 05:09:35 PM
In response to Nathan post about 4001, i cant remember the exact time, would have been mid morning i think
Well must have been taken off on that morning as it definetley wasn't on in the afternoon.
Buses on the 59 tonight are 4562,5512/3/4
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 20, 2013, 10:35:18 AM
Quote from: 4006 on October 20, 2013, 10:00:09 AM
Crash In The Bus Station Sat Night approx 9pm on the 19th Oct involving a Diamond Dart and I think 4563 on the 255/6 stand. I don't know the details accurately but it appears that the diamond bus left the stand and collided with a the NX Trident as it was passing but as I say that's what it looked like to me. I saw the Trident later running private with a missing window and a nice little crease just past the door on the n.s :o
Well i don't know what 4563 would be doing on the 255/6 stand last night as it was on the 59 last night
Correction the bus was 4593 involved in the incident not 4563 It was dark & I didn't get a really good look at it last night but have seen 4593 today, futhermore 4563 was on the 529 today. Further to Matts post 4593 was not in service when it collided with the diamond bus which was on/just left? the 255/6 stand and yes I think it was on an 81
600 has been back on the road since yesterday, on 26s and 62s today
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on October 22, 2013, 01:08:09 PM
600 has been back on the road since yesterday, on 26s and 62s today
What was up with 600 Ashley
I think it was a mechanical fault however its spent over a month in Park Lane garage, whether it was back before yesterday I don't know, all i know is I didn't get a great picture of it this morning
Engine replacement
Sorry to ask but which bus has the replacement come from?
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on October 22, 2013, 03:51:03 PM
Sorry to ask but which bus has the replacement come from?
Either 502 510 or 544 possibly?
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 22, 2013, 05:00:55 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on October 22, 2013, 03:51:03 PM
Sorry to ask but which bus has the replacement come from?
Either 502 510 or 544 possibly?
Would love to think 502 is still living on! But yes could have come from a load of recently withdrawn B6's, which must mean other than the engine 600 is very sound otherwise it would have made more sense just to reinstate on of them
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on October 22, 2013, 05:43:40 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 22, 2013, 05:00:55 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on October 22, 2013, 03:51:03 PM
Sorry to ask but which bus has the replacement come from?
Either 502 510 or 544 possibly?
Would love to think 502 is still living on! But yes could have come from a load of recently withdrawn B6's, which must mean other than the engine 600 is very sound otherwise it would have made more sense just to reinstate on of them
Probably a stupid question, but if 600 has now got the engine of one of those B6s, would it now sound like that bus used to? As I loved 502 because of the way it sounded
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 22, 2013, 08:20:14 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on October 22, 2013, 05:43:40 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 22, 2013, 05:00:55 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on October 22, 2013, 03:51:03 PM
Sorry to ask but which bus has the replacement come from?
Either 502 510 or 544 possibly?
Would love to think 502 is still living on! But yes could have come from a load of recently withdrawn B6's, which must mean other than the engine 600 is very sound otherwise it would have made more sense just to reinstate on of them
Probably a stupid question, but if 600 has now got the engine of one of those B6s, would it now sound like that bus used to? As I loved 502 because of the way it sounded
Likely to be from one that's been at Miller Street
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 22, 2013, 08:20:14 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on October 22, 2013, 05:43:40 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 22, 2013, 05:00:55 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on October 22, 2013, 03:51:03 PM
Sorry to ask but which bus has the replacement come from?
Either 502 510 or 544 possibly?
Would love to think 502 is still living on! But yes could have come from a load of recently withdrawn B6's, which must mean other than the engine 600 is very sound otherwise it would have made more sense just to reinstate on of them
Probably a stupid question, but if 600 has now got the engine of one of those B6s, would it now sound like that bus used to? As I loved 502 because of the way it sounded
Likely to be from one that's been at Miller Street
4566 on 256/7 today
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 26, 2013, 10:59:49 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 26, 2013, 10:31:04 PM
4566 on 256/7 today
Along with 529 branded 4605!
Don't think 4605 actually did a 257, it seemed to enter service in Wolverhampton late afternoon, did a 256 trip to Stourbridge and back, then the last NXWM 255 to Merry Hill
Didn't see if it came into service at that point so just assumed it was already on there. Thanks for the info matt :)
Many services are on diversion in Wolverhampton tonight due to the closure of part of the city centre. Not sure on exact routes, but the 126 is leaving the bus station by the 27's route to Snow Hill, then normal line of route. The 255/256 are leaving by 27 route to Snow Hill, then up Temple Street to return to normal line of route. I noticed other services including the 2, 3 and 26A also using Temple Street, wish I had had more time to see all routes' diversions
Lichfield St (After the junction with Princess Square and Queen Square) is Closed tonight (And was last night as Matt said) from 18:00-22:30 due to the Enchanted City Diwali event (Light Show, Music Concert, Entertainment etc) meaning no buses can use queen square/Lichfield St in either direction
As promised by Simon (NXOD) before he left, Tridents have been allocated to the 255/6 on Sundays in the lead up to Christmas. Seen 4554,4556,4578 and 4609 all on the 255/6 today. Was still B7RLE last Sunday.
Looked strange seeing tridents on the 255/6 on a Sunday
All 5 unbranded B5's (5510-14) on the 59 today. First time all 5 B5's have appeared on a Sunday
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 27, 2013, 08:38:02 PM
As promised by Simon (NXOD) before he left, Tridents have been allocated to the 255/6 on Sundays in the lead up to Christmas. Seen 4554,4556,4578 and 4609 all on the 255/6 today. Was still B7RLE last Sunday.
Looked strange seeing tridents on the 255/6 on a Sunday
The PVR of the 255/256 on a Sunday is 4 buses, I have seen 4554, 4568, 4578 and 4609 all multiple times today so not sure where you got 4556 from
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 27, 2013, 11:41:44 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 27, 2013, 08:38:02 PM
As promised by Simon (NXOD) before he left, Tridents have been allocated to the 255/6 on Sundays in the lead up to Christmas. Seen 4554,4556,4578 and 4609 all on the 255/6 today. Was still B7RLE last Sunday.
Looked strange seeing tridents on the 255/6 on a Sunday
The PVR of the 255/256 on a Sunday is 4 buses, I have seen 4554, 4568, 4578 and 4609 all multiple times today so not sure where you got 4556 from
Because 4556.(Yes BL53 EEU) was sat there in the Bus Station displaying 256
Looks like 4003 was in an accident in the bus station this evening, sat there with hazards on displaying route 59, with no front bumper. Not sure what it crashed into, 1676 and 4602 were also sat there but neither appeared to be damaged. Several police and NX officials were in attendance. 4003 was then driven off by an engineer towards the garage, followed by 1676 and 4602.
Followed 638 down the A449 yesterday on the 25, sounded like an absolute bag of spanners, unhealthy thick black clag too.
Noticed the 59's operation time seems to have been extended about an hour at night, looked at the NWM app for a stop on the route about 23:45 last night and there were departures due every 12 minutes for the next hour or so
Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 02, 2013, 12:40:33 PM
Noticed the 59's operation time seems to have been extended about an hour at night, looked at the NWM app for a stop on the route about 23:45 last night and there were departures due every 12 minutes for the next hour or so
Oops must have been a mistake on the app then! :-[ The last trip is still the 23:24 from the Bus Station to Ashmore Park.
Quote from: D10 on November 02, 2013, 01:20:57 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 02, 2013, 12:40:33 PM
Noticed the 59's operation time seems to have been extended about an hour at night, looked at the NWM app for a stop on the route about 23:45 last night and there were departures due every 12 minutes for the next hour or so
Oops must have been a mistake on the app then! :-[ The last trip is still the 23:24 from the Bus Station to Ashmore Park.
Trust me it was definetley an error. The 559/59 has never ran after midnight ;)
Quote from: D10 on November 02, 2013, 01:20:57 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 02, 2013, 12:40:33 PM
Noticed the 59's operation time seems to have been extended about an hour at night, looked at the NWM app for a stop on the route about 23:45 last night and there were departures due every 12 minutes for the next hour or so
Oops must have been a mistake on the app then! :-[ The last trip is still the 23:24 from the Bus Station to Ashmore Park.
You sound embarrassed, are you responsible for the app in some way? :)
The 4 buses on the 255/6 today are 4560,4578,4590 and B7RLE 2023. The 255/6 was allocated B7RLE's on Sundays but as of last Sunday through till Christmas-New Year it now has Tridents.
But 2023 was also on there today.
Thats because 638 is "a bag of spanners". Last week it had developed a loud hissing and ticking noise so we'll see what it does this week
Quote from: Ashley on November 03, 2013, 10:30:34 PM
Thats because 638 is "a bag of spanners". Last week it had developed a loud hissing and ticking noise so we'll see what it does this week
When 638 was on the 636 I did, it wouldn't even make it up Mucklows Hill without a massive trail of blueish smoke following it and progress was 4-6mph. Luckily you'd be 5minutes early by the Stag so you had time to cool it down. Fantastic buses the B6's, I used to love them - Until Centro ruins everything.
I like B6LE's, but the ones WN have been given aren't any good, and thats because they only just make it or give up when climbing The Holloway on the 62A
What was the usual allocation of the 254 in 2009? As I just found this on Google Maps
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Himley+Hall+%26+Park,+Dudley&hl=en&ll=52.516247,-2.174413&spn=0.006816,0.013797&sll=52.8382,-2.327815&sspn=6.877745,14.128418&oq=himley+park&hq=Himley+Hall+%26+Park,&hnear=Dudley,+West+Midlands,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=52.516355,-2.174458&panoid=jI05W12Y4Msb8KgIcAGWug&cbp=12,198.97,,1,4.55
Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 04, 2013, 05:43:45 PM
What was the usual allocation of the 254 in 2009? As I just found this on Google Maps
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Himley+Hall+%26+Park,+Dudley&hl=en&ll=52.516247,-2.174413&spn=0.006816,0.013797&sll=52.8382,-2.327815&sspn=6.877745,14.128418&oq=himley+park&hq=Himley+Hall+%26+Park,&hnear=Dudley,+West+Midlands,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=52.516355,-2.174458&panoid=jI05W12Y4Msb8KgIcAGWug&cbp=12,198.97,,1,4.55
No, normal allocation was Wright Endurance bodied B10B's
Quote from: Winston on November 04, 2013, 05:47:27 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 04, 2013, 05:43:45 PM
What was the usual allocation of the 254 in 2009? As I just found this on Google Maps
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Himley+Hall+%26+Park,+Dudley&hl=en&ll=52.516247,-2.174413&spn=0.006816,0.013797&sll=52.8382,-2.327815&sspn=6.877745,14.128418&oq=himley+park&hq=Himley+Hall+%26+Park,&hnear=Dudley,+West+Midlands,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=52.516355,-2.174458&panoid=jI05W12Y4Msb8KgIcAGWug&cbp=12,198.97,,1,4.55
No, normal allocation was Wright Endurance bodied B10B's
You would find a few Excels on the 254/255 as more B10Bs got withdrawn, also the Sunday allocation was Excels
620 sounds like its pistons are having a good old slap lol
Quote from: Ashley on November 03, 2013, 10:30:34 PM
Thats because 638 is "a bag of spanners". Last week it had developed a loud hissing and ticking noise so we'll see what it does this week
In The Garage At The Mo....Yet Again!
Trident on WN3 again today :D maybe this will be an everyday thing which is good
Quote from: Ashley on November 06, 2013, 08:39:14 AM
Trident on WN3 again today :D maybe this will be an everyday thing which is good
Is it the same running board Ashley, when/where did you see it?
I've put all the gen in the "Noteworthy workings" thread Matt
I wonder if a Spectra will appear on the 3 at some point (Put some more tridents back on the 59;))
Its been ages since a Spectra has worked the 3. Maybe even a B5 might follow on a daytime board knowing Park Lane's allocations ;)
For reference (if im right)
The last Spectra on the 3 was the first Saturday in December 2011 and it was 4002
4563 on WN3 (same board as tuesday)
at 1315 this afternoon, 4596 was being driven around Wolverhampton bus station by an engineer. I didn't think you could adjust the steering column of a bus whilst it was moving, but this engineer was, dangerous!!!
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 07, 2013, 03:35:37 PM
at 1315 this afternoon, 4596 was being driven around Wolverhampton bus station by an engineer. I didn't think you could adjust the steering column of a bus whilst it was moving, but this engineer was, dangerous!!!
There is a clue in there ;D , an Engineer was driving the bus, hence that implies that there was a fault with the bus and either it was being moved to a safer location to be repaired or towed, or that they were moving I onto a less frequent stand, either way it is obvious it was out of service :)
Quote from: Driver03 on November 07, 2013, 04:36:25 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 07, 2013, 03:35:37 PM
at 1315 this afternoon, 4596 was being driven around Wolverhampton bus station by an engineer. I didn't think you could adjust the steering column of a bus whilst it was moving, but this engineer was, dangerous!!!
There is a clue in there ;D , an Engineer was driving the bus, hence that implies that there was a fault with the bus and either it was being moved to a safer location to be repaired or towed, or that they were moving I onto a less frequent stand, either way it is obvious it was out of service :)
true, although it was displaying 126 Birmingham Markets on the front.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 07, 2013, 06:50:50 PM
Quote from: Driver03 on November 07, 2013, 04:36:25 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 07, 2013, 03:35:37 PM
at 1315 this afternoon, 4596 was being driven around Wolverhampton bus station by an engineer. I didn't think you could adjust the steering column of a bus whilst it was moving, but this engineer was, dangerous!!!
There is a clue in there ;D , an Engineer was driving the bus, hence that implies that there was a fault with the bus and either it was being moved to a safer location to be repaired or towed, or that they were moving I onto a less frequent stand, either way it is obvious it was out of service :)
true, although it was displaying 126 Birmingham Markets on the front.
There you go :) it was moved from the 126 stand to avoid disrupting service onto probably stand u to be repaired, this is only my opinion, but I'm very sure it wouldn't go out like that, I know no driver who would drive a bus like that.
It was, with a Ford Connect engineers van parked right behind it, it's length was about the same as the bus's width!
1683 broke down virtually in the middle of the road on the 59 this afternoon just past Wednesfield (Over the bridge past sainsburys). Was fixed buy engineers.
Also is a board of the 3 trident operated now as there has been a trident on there every day this week?
Regarding Tridents on WN3, its been 5 days of them now but the board they appear on alternates with another one daily and the only way to know if its permanent is if one appears next week.
Too dark to see todays yet but its passing my house as I write this so its on the Monday and Wednesday board
a merc was on the 3 too
Quote from: mranon on November 08, 2013, 08:24:15 PM
a merc was on the 3 too
Yes as me and Ashley reported in the Noteworthy workings thread it is 1662. I saw it on White Oak Drive about 5ish
One of the lights behind 4575's front destination display was not working last night, if it's of any interest to BN.
4576 is the Trident on the 3 today. Saw on White Oak Drive in Finchfield about 5 this afternoon
Saw 4556 on the 256/7 today, has it had an accident on the rear, seem to have filler applied & a rough paint job on the rear right hand side?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 13, 2013, 07:05:17 PM
Saw 4556 on the 256/7 today, has it had an accident on the rear, seem to have filler applied & a rough paint job on the rear right hand side?
Not that I am aware of. Will have a look next time I see it :) 1683 was on the afternoon peak 59 today absolutely rammed to the brim! There was a B6 on the morning peak 59 like usual.
One for BN, 5417 sounded like the Rad Fan (assuming it has one) was going round the engine this morning, right racket!!
Quote from: DOC37V on November 13, 2013, 11:21:14 PM
One for BN, 5417 sounded like the Rad Fan (assuming it has one) was going round the engine this morning, right racket!!
I rode it 2 times, on the morning the engine sounded rough but around 6 this evening the speakers were making an annoying noise too
4311 seems to be back at Wolverhampton. It is on the 255 today and will operate the 1230 from Merry Hill to Wolverhampton. The question is if any more of this batch are transferring from YW back to WN.
1676 to be scrapped with a bent chassis
530 is now at WN as a parts donor
Quote from: Roy on November 14, 2013, 11:44:02 AM
4311 seems to be back at Wolverhampton. It is on the 255 today and will operate the 1230 from Merry Hill to Wolverhampton. The question is if any more of this batch are transferring from YW back to WN.
Logic would say 4310 is also there, unless it is just 1 trident transferring as it could be a replacement for 4003.
Quote from: trident4370 on November 14, 2013, 12:26:15 PM
Quote from: Roy on November 14, 2013, 11:44:02 AM
4311 seems to be back at Wolverhampton. It is on the 255 today and will operate the 1230 from Merry Hill to Wolverhampton. The question is if any more of this batch are transferring from YW back to WN.
Logic would say 4310 is also there, unless it is just 1 trident transferring as it could be a replacement for 4003.
Do you mean 4007? Or has another one expired
I'm pretty sure I heard that 4003 had been involved in a crash with another bus, may be wrong. I had forgotten about 4007 though, 4310 and 4311 would make perfect replacements.
wasnt it 4003 and 1676 that "fought" a couple of weeks ago by wn bus station?
Yes it was 1676 and 4003 in the collision, 1676 was repaired but then they found it had a chassis damage
Quote from: Roy on November 14, 2013, 11:44:02 AM
4311 seems to be back at Wolverhampton. It is on the 255 today and will operate the 1230 from Merry Hill to Wolverhampton. The question is if any more of this batch are transferring from YW back to WN.
4310 is coming back as well
Did anything fill the gap for 4007 when it was withdrawn. Will be interesting to see if 4312 comes back aswell
4007 didn't get a replacement, but WN have enough vehicles
Quote from: Ashley on November 14, 2013, 05:04:36 PM
Yes it was 1676 and 4003 in the collision, 1676 was repaired but then they found it had a chassis damage
Not sure that information about 1676 is correct, can BN confirm one way or another?
I have found my not-so-good photo of 4003 after its accident and uploaded it to Flickr
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nitromatt1/10861144615/
Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 14, 2013, 05:19:14 PM
Quote from: Roy on November 14, 2013, 11:44:02 AM
4311 seems to be back at Wolverhampton. It is on the 255 today and will operate the 1230 from Merry Hill to Wolverhampton. The question is if any more of this batch are transferring from YW back to WN.
4310 is coming back as well
don't know why WN need More Tridents empty deckers are already running on routes where not required (in my opinion) on 11/25/27/27A//32/33/82 yet we see more B7RLE on 126 recently why not take these off and put them on deserved routes i.e 25/27/81/82 and put the deckers on 126?
We asked for it to be withdrawn and if there was any spare tridents knocking about to replace it.
2 down 19 to go lol
Quote from: mranon on November 15, 2013, 10:08:29 PM
2 down 19 to go lol
I was surprised that 4001 was put back on the road after being sat at the back of Park Lane yard for almost a year
Quote from: mranon on November 15, 2013, 10:08:29 PM
2 down 19 to go lol
Shouldn't that be 3 down, 19 to go?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 15, 2013, 10:58:51 PM
Quote from: mranon on November 15, 2013, 10:08:29 PM
2 down 19 to go lol
Shouldn't that be 3 down, 19 to go?
Been such a long time since 4014 departed this mortal coil, people forget it ever existed. Will be a sad day when the last of the Spectras goes.
Are there any WN Tridents in for refurb at the moment
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 16, 2013, 08:35:47 PM
Are there any WN Tridents in for refurb at the moment
4580, 4581 and 4583 are three noted in the paintshop at the Walsall tour, these might be done now, there may be another couple in as well
Quote from: John on November 16, 2013, 08:40:10 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 16, 2013, 08:35:47 PM
Are there any WN Tridents in for refurb at the moment
4580, 4581 and 4583 are three noted in the paintshop at the Walsall tour, these might be done now, there may be another couple in as well
Pretty sure i saw a fresh from repaint (Think 4583) going up Linthouse Lane in Wednesfield towards Park Lane last night. Probably coming from WA
Quote from: John on November 16, 2013, 08:40:10 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 16, 2013, 08:35:47 PM
Are there any WN Tridents in for refurb at the moment
4580, 4581 and 4583 are three noted in the paintshop at the Walsall tour, these might be done now, there may be another couple in as well
The next WN tridents in should be 4575/9 which are the last of the 126 branded tridents then they can concentrate on getting the other tridents in TWM livery painted (4569/71 seem likley continuing after 4566/7's repaints)
508 doesn't seem to be seeing much service lately. Nath told me he saw it on the 26 the other day, anyone else seen it recently?
Will be interesting to see if WN have put in a bid for any E200s to eradicate the B6s next year?
Tbh i can't remember when i exactly saw 508-Could have been the other week thinking about it.
But Matt you are only usually in Wolverhampton sometimes on a Saturday so you won't see if its out on Mon-Fri so it probably does see regular service still :)
2025 was on the 1 today
And 2009 worked the 32/3/79 today which is very odd for a Sunday
Surely there are Double Deckers Spare (And before someone says about the way they park the buses they manage to allocate dd's 99.99999% of the time;))
Only thing i can think of is that a Trident broke down so 2009 replaced it
Same thing probably happened with 2025 on the 1
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 17, 2013, 08:47:51 PM
Will be interesting to see if WN have put in a bid for any E200s to eradicate the B6s next year?
I was thinking that aswell. Also i know someone said that the Spectras are staying until 2016 but there are lots of new buses being ordered (More Dd's most likley in 2014) so i can either see the 126 being upgraded with new buses (Withdrawing Spectras) or tridents cascading from another garage.
I have a feeling next year PE will also get some more tridents cascaded from another garage aswell
Does anyone know if 4310 is back at WN yet or if it has been back in service yet? Haven't seen it in service yet
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 17, 2013, 08:55:43 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 17, 2013, 08:47:51 PM
Will be interesting to see if WN have put in a bid for any E200s to eradicate the B6s next year?
I was thinking that aswell. Also i know someone said that the Spectras are staying until 2016 but there are lots of new buses being ordered (More Dd's most likley in 2014) so i can either see the 126 being upgraded with new buses (Withdrawing Spectras) or tridents cascading from another garage.
I have a feeling next year PE will also get some more tridents cascaded from another garage aswell
I'd hazzard a guess some may become surplus for cascade from BC, as it seems likely that the 45/47 (Pershore Rd) routes are due to be upgraded next year
Quote from: Winston on November 17, 2013, 09:32:32 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 17, 2013, 08:55:43 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 17, 2013, 08:47:51 PM
Will be interesting to see if WN have put in a bid for any E200s to eradicate the B6s next year?
I was thinking that aswell. Also i know someone said that the Spectras are staying until 2016 but there are lots of new buses being ordered (More Dd's most likley in 2014) so i can either see the 126 being upgraded with new buses (Withdrawing Spectras) or tridents cascading from another garage.
I have a feeling next year PE will also get some more tridents cascaded from another garage aswell
I'd hazzard a guess some may become surplus for cascade from BC, as it seems likely that the 45/47 (Pershore Rd) routes are due to be upgraded next year
With so-called facelifted / new e400 model. Which has yet to materialise... ADL, what are you playing at
I do wonder whether the Spectras will last until 2016, if spares are already in short supply? Possibly the only way to carry on will be to withdraw half of them and carry on with say 10.
However is it worth just running a small fleet of ten.
Maybe better to withdraw them and replace them with cascaded vehicles from other depots.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 17, 2013, 09:40:58 PM
I do wonder whether the Spectras will last until 2016, if spares are already in short supply? Possibly the only way to carry on will be to withdraw half of them and carry on with say 10.
However is it worth just running a small fleet of ten.
Maybe better to withdraw them and replace them with cascaded vehicles from other depots.
Well its becoming obvious they will be the first 'modern' decker to be withdrawn. Then the Volvo B7, ALX B7, Tridents, then early E400s (that's excluding single deckers and over a time frame of 20 odd years.) Ugh, that's a weird thought, I might not be here to see the E400's being withdrawn.
Didn't I read somewhere parts for the Spectra were being discontinued at certain dealers? I'll try to find the article as I may have misread it.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 17, 2013, 09:35:24 PM
Quote from: Winston on November 17, 2013, 09:32:32 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 17, 2013, 08:55:43 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 17, 2013, 08:47:51 PM
Will be interesting to see if WN have put in a bid for any E200s to eradicate the B6s next year?
I was thinking that aswell. Also i know someone said that the Spectras are staying until 2016 but there are lots of new buses being ordered (More Dd's most likley in 2014) so i can either see the 126 being upgraded with new buses (Withdrawing Spectras) or tridents cascading from another garage.
I have a feeling next year PE will also get some more tridents cascaded from another garage aswell
I'd hazzard a guess some may become surplus for cascade from BC, as it seems likely that the 45/47 (Pershore Rd) routes are due to be upgraded next year
With so-called facelifted / new e400 model. Which has yet to materialise... ADL, what are you playing at
ADL announced at Coach & Bus Live that the first prototypes on the new double deckers being developed were being built at that time (i.e. mid Oct). I doubt any production models would be delivered until the second half of 2014 at the earliest
I see Winston.
I was told by a close source at ADL that it would've been reveled at Coach & Bus, and first deliveries first quarter of 2014.
Must've come into production issues. There isn't even a first look sketches?
Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 17, 2013, 09:52:52 PM
I see Winston.
I was told by a close source at ADL that it would've been reveled at Coach & Bus, and first deliveries first quarter of 2014.
Must've come into production issues. There isn't even a first look sketches?
LS,
No, I don't think ADL have even release artist impressions of the new design
Coach & Bus Live would have been perfect for the launch of the new model
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 17, 2013, 08:50:21 PM
Tbh i can't remember when i exactly saw 508-Could have been the other week thinking about it.
But Matt you are only usually in Wolverhampton sometimes on a Saturday so you won't see if its out on Mon-Fri so it probably does see regular service still :)
No, I see all the B6s on a regular basis, except 508. I expect it has been receiving some form of attention. Perhaps someone at WN can confirm?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 17, 2013, 08:50:21 PM
2025 was on the 1 today
Only thing i can think of is that a Trident broke down so 2009 replaced it
Same thing probably happened with 2025 on the 1
2025 was on from at least 10 this morning when I first saw it, so would have had to have been a very early breakdown, more likely it was put out all day, and just seen it again at half 10 heading into Wolverhampton
I haven't seen 508 not last week anyway
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on November 17, 2013, 10:37:21 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 17, 2013, 08:50:21 PM
2025 was on the 1 today
Only thing i can think of is that a Trident broke down so 2009 replaced it
Same thing probably happened with 2025 on the 1
2025 was on from at least 10 this morning when I first saw it, so would have had to have been a very early breakdown, more likely it was put out all day, and just seen it again at half 10 heading into Wolverhampton
A Decker was probably allocated but found defective at the pre service check at the garage so 2025 may have been the replacment used
Matt, Saw 508 today on the 26 this afternoon so still in service :)
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 18, 2013, 08:37:06 PM
Matt, Saw 508 today on the 26 this afternoon so still in service :)
Thought so, like I said it was most likely out of service for a while receiving attention.
Wednesfield Xmas Lights Switch on 2013:
Wednesfield High Street is currently closed till 18:30 due to the annual Christmas Lights switch on.
Therefore NXWM services 25/A,59,69 and 89 are being diverted:
Route 25-(Towards Wolverhampton) Normal Line of Route to Junction of High Street and Alfred Squire Rd then bear left then turn right onto Rookery Street to normal ine of Route (Missing out High St)
Towards Bilston is reverse of above
Route 25A- (Towards Wolverhampton) Normal line of route to March End Rd/Neachells Lane/Alfred Squire Rd T junction then turn right onto Neachells Lane then Right onto Lichfield Rd joining normal line of route (Missing out the High St)
Towards Bilston is reverse of above
Routes 59/69/89- (Towards Wolverhampton) Normal line of route to Lichfield Rd canal bridge then turn left onto Neachells Lane then right at the Neachells Lane/March End Rd/Alfred Squire Rd crossroads onto Alfred Squire Rd (Past the Police Station) then onto Rookery St (Missing out the High St) joining normal line of route
Towards Ashmore Park/Walsall is reverse of above
Arriva services 19 and 68 observe the same diversion as NXWM's Service's 59/69/89 in both Directions
Arriva service 57 observes same diversion as NXWM service 25A in both directions
Some heavy delays on these services this afternoon as a result
Heavy delays just due to a 2 minute diversion missing out a small high street?
Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 21, 2013, 05:13:53 PM
Heavy delays just due to a 2 minute diversion missing out a small high street?
Traffic management may be involved Matt
Quote from: the trainbasher on November 21, 2013, 05:17:42 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 21, 2013, 05:13:53 PM
Heavy delays just due to a 2 minute diversion missing out a small high street?
Traffic management may be involved Matt
Fair point, although I'm not sure why traffic management would be necessary
Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 21, 2013, 05:13:53 PM
Heavy delays just due to a 2 minute diversion missing out a small high street?
Exactly Matt! But it is due to Alfred Squire Rd and Neachells Lane are at Gridlock with the traffic. Then there are vehicles trying to turn round as they are not aware of the diversion ahead.
Also buses are having to set down and pick up on Alfred Squire Rd also causing delays.
Its easy saying "How is there so much traffic for a small diversion" but you should see the traffic
New circular service on the cards for wolverhampton joining the 25 and 26 to make a 25a 25c to compete against Banga
Quote from: j_rp_wright on November 27, 2013, 11:41:02 PM
New circular service on the cards for wolverhampton joining the 25 and 26 to make a 25a 25c to compete against Banga
I like the sound of that! Is this just speculation though, where did you hear this?
I believe the initial ideas floating around are that the 25A will be withdrawn leaving the 25, this is the route it will follow. Wolverhampton to Bilston will run as 25A, the vehicle will then run back to Wolverhampton as a 26. Vica versa, the 26 will run from Wolverhampton then that vehicle will run back to Wolverhampton as a 25C, numbers not seen since WMPTE days. Obviously these are only rumours at this stage so its not our place to speculate until all is certain. Added to that, the 62/62A are rumoured to be withdrawn from April 2014 however at the moment that is also a rumour
Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 27, 2013, 11:42:11 PM
Quote from: j_rp_wright on November 27, 2013, 11:41:02 PM
New circular service on the cards for wolverhampton joining the 25 and 26 to make a 25a 25c to compete against Banga
I like the sound of that! Is this just speculation though, where did you hear this?
Will this see the start of full size single deckers and maybe the odd double decker on the 26 route (Well when its joined with the 25) Didn't a similar thing happen with the old 527/8?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 27, 2013, 11:59:43 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 27, 2013, 11:42:11 PM
Quote from: j_rp_wright on November 27, 2013, 11:41:02 PM
New circular service on the cards for wolverhampton joining the 25 and 26 to make a 25a 25c to compete against Banga
I like the sound of that! Is this just speculation though, where did you hear this?
Will this see the start of full size single deckers and maybe the odd double decker on the 26 route (Well when its joined with the 25) Didn't a similar thing happen with the old 527/8?
Or midibuses onto the 25
Well saying that B6's operate mainly on the 25 anyway :)
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 28, 2013, 12:04:18 AM
Well saying that B6's operate mainly on the 25 anyway :)
With the occasional Hybrid ;)
With B6's on the 59 ;D
Didn't the 25 & 26 used to be one complete circular route at one point? If so, guessing there was a reason they split it up in the first place?
Quote from: Kevin on November 28, 2013, 11:39:32 AM
Didn't the 25 & 26 used to be one complete circular route at one point? If so, guessing there was a reason they split it up in the first place?
Yes i think it did years ago following the old 525 route from Wolverhampton-Bilsto continuing the loop back to Wolverhampton via Goldthorn Park. Tbh the 25/26 work as they do seperatley.
Also aren't the 62/A tendered?
The reasons routes are usually broken up is for commercial reasons such as one journey on a bus now becomes two sperate journeys equals more money. Now banga is on route 26, by linking these routes back together NX are hopeing to regain passengers due to the need for not having to make multiple changes.
Quote from: j_rp_wright on November 28, 2013, 06:16:10 PM
The reasons routes are usually broken up is for commercial reasons such as one journey on a bus now becomes two sperate journeys equals more money. Now banga is on route 26, by linking these routes back together NX are hopeing to regain passengers due to the need for not having to make multiple changes.
Banga aren't really a threat to NX and both routes are not really the most profitable routes NX operate anyway so personally i don't think it will make a difference
The 25/A have been messed about with too many times and work as they are now
The 62/62A aren't tendered I don't think. Back in 2002, Zak's gave up the 682 and travel West Midlands took the service over. Over the years they've made various changes but patronage hasn't increased, all that's changed is the increased number of empty seats and breakdowns because the B6LE's (the majority of) that WN have are sh@t (sorry). The routes have been under observation by centro in recent months to get an idea of average patronage. I think NX no longer see much point continuing a service that pprobably does cost more to run than it brings in so in April the route will pass to another operator or be axed for good if nobody is interested (thats roughly how its been explained to me by WN drivers but no doubt im wrong about something)
So they will withdraw the 62/A leaving the 26 without a route to interwork with so they will join the 25/6 up to form a W'ton-W'ton via Goldthorn Park,Bilston,Willenhall,Wednesfield,Bushbury Hill, Wobaston and Stafford Rd? Will this cirular follow the 25 or 25A route on the 25 section of the route?
No, the 26 will still be its own entity running WN to Bilston. However it will then change to a 25C to run back to Wolverhampton along the line of route the current 25 route which will stay. This will work in the opposite direction with a vehicle running WN to Bilston as a 25A along the current 25 route then will run Bilston to WN as a 26. The current 25A will be withdrawn as well as the 62/62A if any of this makes sense
Quote from: Ashley on November 28, 2013, 09:46:59 PM
No, the 26 will still be its own entity running WN to Bilston. However it will then change to a 25C to run back to Wolverhampton along the line of route the current 25 route which will stay. This will work in the opposite direction with a vehicle running WN to Bilston as a 25A along the current 25 route then will run Bilston to WN as a 26. The current 25A will be withdrawn as well as the 62/62A if any of this makes sense
That has confused me!
Hang on i'll try again
62/62A to be withdrawn in April
25/26 will interwork
Current 25A service withdrawn, current 25 will be renumbered 25A Wolverhampton to Bilston. Current 25 will be renumbered 25C Bilston to Wolverhampton
Quote from: the trainbasher on November 28, 2013, 09:50:12 PM
Quote from: Ashley on November 28, 2013, 09:46:59 PM
No, the 26 will still be its own entity running WN to Bilston. However it will then change to a 25C to run back to Wolverhampton along the line of route the current 25 route which will stay. This will work in the opposite direction with a vehicle running WN to Bilston as a 25A along the current 25 route then will run Bilston to WN as a 26. The current 25A will be withdrawn as well as the 62/62A if any of this makes sense
That has confused me!
and me :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
Quote from: Ashley on November 28, 2013, 09:52:42 PM
Hang on i'll try again
62/62A to be withdrawn in April
25/26 will interwork
Current 25A service withdrawn, current 25 will be renumbered 25A Wolverhampton to Bilston. Current 25 will be renumbered 25C Bilston to Wolverhampton
so 25A will only run in the Wolverhampton to Bilston direction and the 25C will only run in the Bilston to Wolverhampton direction. Why not just call it the 25??
Quote from: Ashley on November 28, 2013, 09:52:42 PM
Hang on i'll try again
62/62A to be withdrawn in April
25/26 will interwork
Current 25A service withdrawn, current 25 will be renumbered 25A Wolverhampton to Bilston. Current 25 will be renumbered 25C Bilston to Wolverhampton
That will make some Long Knowle residents angry!
I hope thats a little less comfusing. The current 25A doesn't serve long knowle does it?
Quote from: Ashley on November 28, 2013, 09:59:15 PM
I hope thats a little less comfusing. The current 25A doesn't serve long knowle does it?
Yes it does :) Serves Long Knowle Lane and Blackhalve Lane like the old 525
Ohh ok thanks Nathan, i havent done the route for a good while, clearly I need to aha
When I used to drive the 526 it wasn't that busy same as 530 and look what happens to that when banga also ran on it... Twm withdrew due to low numbers
The banga bus i saw the other day had quite a few people on it
Along with there 530 service they now have a monopoly on some parts of the millfields road.
My Version of it what I've heard but still speculation:
62/62A will be withdrawn (Probably end up with Arriva or Diamond)
The 26 will be withdrawn but the 25/26 will become 1 route and run as a 25C (Clockwise) and 25A (Anticlockwise) so they will run in a circle one one way the other the other. One will run a 25 as it is now although extended into the i54 (which is due to open in January) then from Bilston it will continue on the 26 route to Wton still as a 25. Obviously the other way round will run a 26 to Bilston (As the new 25) then from Bilston on its own 25 route via i54. I also overheard that the 6 will progress further into the i54 also and be re-timed
Wednesfield rota and Cannock road rota to be combined i.e 11,25A,25C,28,32,33,79 will become 1 rota so there could be many boards & interworking routes if this happens. This is only what I've heard so don't quote me but I also wonder as the current 25/27 interwork on evenings & Sundays how the 27 will be effected
Surely they won't operate the 26 section of route on Sundays as the 26 doesn't run on sundays (Diamond operate the 26A) so they might operate a 25E on a Sunday to Bilston.
Also is The 59 on its own rota or the Wednesfield Rota?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 29, 2013, 08:37:46 AM
Surely they won't operate the 26 section of route on Sundays as the 26 doesn't run on sundays (Diamond operate the 26A) so they might operate a 25E on a Sunday to Bilston.
Also is The 59 on its own rota or the Wednesfield Rota?
59 is on its own rota as is the 1 and 529
I think that's how I meant to put it but it came out long winded and comfusing so apolgies for those I comfused and sorry if i put the wrong information. Thank you "4006l for the clarification
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 29, 2013, 08:37:46 AM
Surely they won't operate the 26 section of route on Sundays as the 26 doesn't run on sundays (Diamond operate the 26A) so they might operate a 25E on a Sunday to Bilston.
When the 25 was introduced, evenings & Sundays were split between NX commercially (Wolves & Bushbury only I think?) & Midland tendered (New Cross to Bilston) wasn't they?
Did NX just win the contract from Midland or did they decide to introduce that section of route commercially themselves?
If the latter, surely they would do the same on the 26 themselves or are loadings that bad?
No i believe the Evening and Sunday 25 is tendered. You might find evenings and Sunday's The 25 will operate as a 25E to Bilston (As the current 25) with Diamond covering Wolverhampton-Bilston via Goldthorn Park with the current 26A.
Another possibility could be that the 26A contract could be up for renewal next year (just a thought)
Quote from: Ashley on December 01, 2013, 09:28:46 PM
Another possibility could be that the 26A contract could be up for renewal next year (just a thought)
But the 26A goes to Stowlawn so wouldn't tie in with the new 25 and withdrawing the Stowlawn part would leave that estate without an Evening/Sunday bus service
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 02, 2013, 05:06:29 PM
Quote from: Ashley on December 01, 2013, 09:28:46 PM
Another possibility could be that the 26A contract could be up for renewal next year (just a thought)
But the 26A goes to Stowlawn so wouldn't tie in with the new 25 and withdrawing the Stowlawn part would leave that estate without an Evening/Sunday bus service
extend the evening 34
job done
I know you can never be 100% certain, but I'm looking at going to Wolverhampton soon and travelling on some Spectras.
Therefore, I'm trying to find out what routes are almost guaranteed to be a Spectra operated (assuming there is no change bus/rare working!)
Thanks
Routes 11/32/59 nearly always have spectra's?
Was over there during the morning last Friday and as stated the 11/32/59 produced and 4005 was the earliest travelled on.
Can anyone let us know what the plans for these buses are as i see 4003 has just been withdrawn!
Quote from: crepello on December 03, 2013, 07:40:00 PM
Was over there during the morning last Friday and as stated the 11/32/59 produced and 4005 was the earliest travelled on.
Can anyone let us know what the plans for these buses are as i see 4003 has just been withdrawn!
Plans as i gather through various people on this forum are they will be withdrawn over the next 12 to 24 months maybe sooner depending on what NXWM decide to do?
Quote from: pb2012 on December 03, 2013, 07:45:58 PM
Quote from: crepello on December 03, 2013, 07:40:00 PM
Was over there during the morning last Friday and as stated the 11/32/59 produced and 4005 was the earliest travelled on.
Can anyone let us know what the plans for these buses are as i see 4003 has just been withdrawn!
Plans as i gather through various people on this forum are they will be withdrawn over the next 12 to 24 months maybe sooner depending on what NXWM decide to do?
depends very much on spare parts and whether anything serious failures occur. i understand that WN asked for one Spectra to be withdrawn, so must have been a serious problem?
5419 today in WN was making some strange noise today, didnt sound very healthy
The 79 usually has one or two Spectras. I usually hang around West Brom and one will come after a couple of buses.
Quote from: pb2012 on December 03, 2013, 07:13:14 PM
Routes 11/32/59 nearly always have spectra's?
Yes Spectras are the main allocation on the 59 (With Tridents and B5 hybrids aswell). The 79 is another route that has Spectras. (The 529 gets Spectras regually aswell)
Quote from: crepello on December 03, 2013, 07:40:00 PM
Was over there during the morning last Friday and as stated the 11/32/59 produced and 4005 was the earliest travelled on.
Can anyone let us know what the plans for these buses are as i see 4003 has just been withdrawn!
tbh i am unsure about the future for the Spectras at PL. Depending on deliveries and cascades they may be withdrawn as early as next year or they could stay till as late as 2016
Parts are a problem for the Spectra's at the momemt I've heard they will be withdrawn next year 4003/7 already gone. Best way to get a Spectra is to simply wait in the bus station :)
Just saw 4016 on 255E
Quote from: 4006 on December 04, 2013, 11:11:40 AM
Parts are a problem for the Spectra's at the momemt I've heard they will be withdrawn next year 4003/7 already gone. Best way to get a Spectra is to simply wait in the bus station :)
And with the Spectras operating the 59, you won't wait long until one turns up ;)
What tine did you see 4016 Winston, I thought i saw it on the 59 today but i could be thinking back to yesterday ;) Spectras are starting to creep back onto the 255 once again with more tridents working the 59.
I suspect either the 126 wil be upgraded with new buses or tridents will cascade to replace the Spectras
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 04, 2013, 07:09:53 PM
Quote from: 4006 on December 04, 2013, 11:11:40 AM
Parts are a problem for the Spectra's at the momemt I've heard they will be withdrawn next year 4003/7 already gone. Best way to get a Spectra is to simply wait in the bus station :)
And with the Spectras operating the 59, you won't wait long until one turns up ;)
What tine did you see 4016 Winston, I thought i saw it on the 59 today but i could be thinking back to yesterday ;) Spectras are starting to creep back onto the 255 once again with more tridents working the 59.
I suspect either the 126 wil be upgraded with new buses or tridents will cascade to replace the Spectras
About 5-10 mins before I posted
It must be a replacement. There were 8 Tridents on the route earlier in the afternoon. If it was on the 1645 from Merry Hill then it would have replaced 4607.
Quote from: Roy on December 04, 2013, 08:04:39 PM
It must be a replacement. There were 8 Tridents on the route earlier in the afternoon. If it was on the 1645 from Merry Hill then it would have replaced 4607.
Roy I saw it pull up outside the Tesco Express on Bromley Lane heading towards Wallheath
2019 was on the 126 today
4574 currently broken down near the old Commercial pub in Pensnett. It was on the 1000 hrs 255 from Merry Hill to Wolverhampton.
Quote from: Roy on December 05, 2013, 10:54:34 AM
4574 currently broken down near the old Commercial pub in Pensnett. It was on the 1000 hrs 255 from Merry Hill to Wolverhampton.
4006 has now replaced it.
Quote from: Roy on December 05, 2013, 10:54:34 AM
4574 currently broken down near the old Commercial pub in Pensnett. It was on the 1000 hrs 255 from Merry Hill to Wolverhampton.
And 4574 is now on the 59
529 branded Trident on the back of a Mansfield truck along the Willenhall Road at 1520ish today
4005 all day 126 and another spectra
Quote from: Dylan4579 on December 05, 2013, 07:44:58 PM
4005 all day 126 and another spectra
Two Spectras on the 126? ??? What are Park Lane playing at?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 05, 2013, 08:01:12 PM
Quote from: Dylan4579 on December 05, 2013, 07:44:58 PM
4005 all day 126 and another spectra
Two Spectras on the 126? ??? What are Park Lane playing at?
What happened to the QPS (Quality Partnership Scheme emission ruling)?
Spectra on the 126 again today, didn't see which one but passed Pure Gym heading towards Dudley at 5pm.
the spectras i saw were operating the 126e (4004) which goes as far as dudley
That'll be it was a 126E. Thanks.
The 125 in old money! or D25 with a beastie Metrowest National on it.
Have any Spectras made it onto a full 126 to Birmingham recently?
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 07, 2013, 12:00:29 AM
Have any Spectras made it onto a full 126 to Birmingham recently?
2 on thursday
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 07, 2013, 12:00:29 AM
Have any Spectras made it onto a full 126 to Birmingham recently?
4005 was one of them
On the topic of Spectras, theres one on the 3 today at last, 1010 off Castlecroft so the usual decker board
Spectras are 100% confirmed to be staying for another 12 months. According to the person I've been talking to inside the garage, WN have invested a huge amount of money in increasing their reliability so much so they are the 2nd most reliable bus in garage behind B7RLE they are now focusing efforts and ££££s on making B6s just as reliable. So looks like they will be around a lot longer now.
Thanks for that Driver03 :) That was a question I had on my mind for sometime about how long Spectras have left.
I have been speaking to a few drivers on the 59 and they have said they don't like it now Spectras are now allocated to evening journeys aswell
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 10, 2013, 05:09:50 PM
Thanks for that Driver03 :) That was a question I had on my mind for sometime about how long Spectras have left.
I have been speaking to a few drivers on the 59 and they have said they don't like it now Spectras are now allocated to evening journeys aswell
That's the most common complaint I get a night when they return from service ;D
639 won't be on the road for a few days given that today its electrics and gearbox gave up today
Quote from: Driver03 on December 10, 2013, 05:06:36 PM
Spectras are 100% confirmed to be staying for another 12 months. According to the person I've been talking to inside the garage, WN have invested a huge amount of money in increasing their reliability so much so they are the 2nd most reliable bus in garage behind B7RLE they are now focusing efforts and ££££s on making B6s just as reliable. So looks like they will be around a lot longer now.
That's great news, possibly the most popular buses in the fleet the Spectras, good to know they're being made more reliable :)
Quote from: Ashley on December 10, 2013, 05:16:49 PM
639 won't be on the road for a few days given that today its electrics and gearbox gave up today
Shame, 639 was an absolute beast at BC. Real flyer. 638 on the other hand... in fact, ask any 636 driver on the subject of 638!!!
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 10, 2013, 05:22:22 PM
Quote from: Ashley on December 10, 2013, 05:16:49 PM
639 won't be on the road for a few days given that today its electrics and gearbox gave up today
Shame, 639 was an absolute beast at BC. Real flyer. 638 on the other hand... in fact, ask any 636 driver on the subject of 638!!!
Could imagine 638 crawling up Mucklow Hill
639 has always been a personal favourite
638 as has been said many times isn't a good bus, although today it was the replacement bus for 639, came in to WN bus station for the 1400 62A departure, a route with Wolverhampton's steepest hill (The Holloway). 634, 638 and 640 always struggle but the others manage it easy
Quote from: Ashley on December 10, 2013, 05:31:53 PM
639 has always been a personal favourite
638 as has been said many times isn't a good bus, although today it was the replacement bus for 639, came in to WN bus station for the 1400 62A departure, a route with Wolverhampton's steepest hill (The Holloway). 634, 638 and 640 always struggle but the others manage it easy
555 is a good one going up Holloway Hill screaming away like it does
Quote from: Ashley on December 10, 2013, 05:31:53 PM
639 has always been a personal favourite
638 as has been said many times isn't a good bus, although today it was the replacement bus for 639, came in to WN bus station for the 1400 62A departure, a route with Wolverhampton's steepest hill (The Holloway). 634, 638 and 640 always struggle but the others manage it easy
The Tridents on the 10 demolish the Holloway
Quote from: Ashley on December 10, 2013, 05:31:53 PM
639 has always been a personal favourite
638 as has been said many times isn't a good bus, although today it was the replacement bus for 639, came in to WN bus station for the 1400 62A departure, a route with Wolverhampton's steepest hill (The Holloway). 634, 638 and 640 always struggle but the others manage it easy
The Bartley Green Holloway is quite steep aswell, and can imagine 638 crawling up there on an X64
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 10, 2013, 05:34:31 PM
Quote from: Ashley on December 10, 2013, 05:31:53 PM
639 has always been a personal favourite
638 as has been said many times isn't a good bus, although today it was the replacement bus for 639, came in to WN bus station for the 1400 62A departure, a route with Wolverhampton's steepest hill (The Holloway). 634, 638 and 640 always struggle but the others manage it easy
The Tridents on the 10 demolish the Holloway
The Arriva East Lancs ones I presume you mean?
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 10, 2013, 05:35:05 PM
Quote from: Ashley on December 10, 2013, 05:31:53 PM
639 has always been a personal favourite
638 as has been said many times isn't a good bus, although today it was the replacement bus for 639, came in to WN bus station for the 1400 62A departure, a route with Wolverhampton's steepest hill (The Holloway). 634, 638 and 640 always struggle but the others manage it easy
The Bartley Green Holloway is quite steep aswell, and can imagine 638 crawling up there on an X64
Not forgetting Drews Holloway in Colley Gate, I've seen many Darts on the 142 cause a traffic jam trying to get up it
Holloway seems to be a common hill name
Has anyone seen 4580 back in service yet after repaint/refurb?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 10, 2013, 05:36:41 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 10, 2013, 05:34:31 PM
Quote from: Ashley on December 10, 2013, 05:31:53 PM
639 has always been a personal favourite
638 as has been said many times isn't a good bus, although today it was the replacement bus for 639, came in to WN bus station for the 1400 62A departure, a route with Wolverhampton's steepest hill (The Holloway). 634, 638 and 640 always struggle but the others manage it easy
The Tridents on the 10 demolish the Holloway
Yeah, a NX Trident would struggle up there more
The Arriva East Lancs ones I presume you mean?
Quote from: Driver03 on December 10, 2013, 05:06:36 PM
Spectras are 100% confirmed to be staying for another 12 months. According to the person I've been talking to inside the garage, WN have invested a huge amount of money in increasing their reliability so much so they are the 2nd most reliable bus in garage behind B7RLE they are now focusing efforts and ££££s on making B6s just as reliable. So looks like they will be around a lot longer now.
That sounds about right, one hasn't been reported broken down for a good while, Tridents and B6's on the other hand!
I have noticed a big decrease of breakdowns on the 59 (Usually the reason why single deckers kept appearing on there). I am actually quite glad they are staying for a while longer
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on December 10, 2013, 05:46:10 PM
Quote from: Driver03 on December 10, 2013, 05:06:36 PM
Spectras are 100% confirmed to be staying for another 12 months. According to the person I've been talking to inside the garage, WN have invested a huge amount of money in increasing their reliability so much so they are the 2nd most reliable bus in garage behind B7RLE they are now focusing efforts and ££££s on making B6s just as reliable. So looks like they will be around a lot longer now.
That sounds about right, one hasn't been reported broken down for a good while, Tridents and B6's on the other hand!
Yeah I noticed that too, a Trident seems to get reported broken down every other day, and think how many breakdowns won't get reported, they could well be the most unreliable bus in the fleet
Until recently Spectras did seem to be unreliable (Not as much as the tridents) but there was a breakdown most days but I'm glad to hear they are some of the most reliable buses at WN now :)
Well yes Matt but surely due to the volume of Tridents in the fleet?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 10, 2013, 05:40:45 PM
Has anyone seen 4580 back in service yet after repaint/refurb?
On the 126.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 10, 2013, 05:40:45 PM
Has anyone seen 4580 back in service yet after repaint/refurb?
It has been on the 126 a few times over the past week or so.
Quote from: Dylan4579 on December 10, 2013, 06:17:32 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 10, 2013, 05:40:45 PM
Has anyone seen 4580 back in service yet after repaint/refurb?
On the 126.
Thanks for that Dylan :) Want to try and get a ride on it as soon as I can :)
Gemini Plastic broken down on the 126
Quote from: Dylan4579 on December 10, 2013, 06:21:43 PM
Gemini Plastic broken down on the 126
So that's why there is only one B5 on the 59 today then ::)
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 10, 2013, 06:01:27 PM
Well yes Matt but surely due to the volume of Tridents in the fleet?
Fair point, I had considered that, but how many B7TL breakdowns are there in comparison
Nobody seams to have mentioned the Mercs, whilst reliability of Spectra's may be increasing (which I believe a common suspension problem has been rectified in the main which was a continual problem when they first came to WN which has improved reliability added to the withdrawal of 2 of them) reliability of the Mercs seams to be rapidly deteriorating on the other hand!
I see 1685 virtually every day so that one can't be too bad, 1654 16f1 and 16f2 aren't much cop in my own opinion but maybe somebody could throw a mechanical view in.
Matt, as far as I believe and I stand to be corrected but I think B7TL's break down a little less frequently
Quote from: Ashley on December 11, 2013, 08:40:06 AM
Matt, as far as I believe and I stand to be corrected but I think B7TL's break down a little less frequently
Yep, that's what I was saying
4003 has moved from the bottom of Wolverhampton's yard where it was dumped following withdrawal alongside 1676, which is still there.
4021 looked like to be getting a replacement engine, the bus was up in the air in the garage, with an engine on the floor.
john, im wondering from your post, if 4003 is giving up its running gear for 4021 etc?
Quote from: mranon on December 11, 2013, 08:13:47 PM
john, im wondering from your post, if 4003 is giving up its running gear for 4021 etc?
That was what I was wondering. There was another Spectra behind 4021, but could not ID it, and the front on this Spectra was facing me. It did not have a front bumper on at the time, so did not see the numberplate
Quote from: John on December 11, 2013, 08:17:54 PM
Quote from: mranon on December 11, 2013, 08:13:47 PM
john, im wondering from your post, if 4003 is giving up its running gear for 4021 etc?
That was what I was wondering. There was another Spectra behind 4021, but could not ID it, and the front on this Spectra was facing me. It did not have a front bumper on at the time, so did not see the numberplate
Is 4003 still at PL or at MS? If at PL, it could've been the Spectra with no front bumper
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 11, 2013, 08:38:02 PM
Quote from: John on December 11, 2013, 08:17:54 PM
Quote from: mranon on December 11, 2013, 08:13:47 PM
john, im wondering from your post, if 4003 is giving up its running gear for 4021 etc?
That was what I was wondering. There was another Spectra behind 4021, but could not ID it, and the front on this Spectra was facing me. It did not have a front bumper on at the time, so did not see the numberplate
Is 4003 still at PL or at MS? If at PL, it could've been the Spectra with no front bumper
Am wondering if MS has space issues at the moment, it took a while for 1545/1646 to leave PE!
4003 is still at PL along with 1676 Matt :)
As I said, 1676 is still dumped down the bottom, 4003 was there with it last week, but has moved before today or today. It may have been the one hiding behind 4021 in the workshop. Or it may have been moved elsewhere out of Park Lane
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 11, 2013, 08:48:00 PM
4003 is still at PL along with 1676 Matt :)
Yeah silly me, just remembered John reported it being there earlier on. Given 4003 had its bumper removed after its accident, it was more than likely the one behind 4021 John
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 11, 2013, 08:54:42 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 11, 2013, 08:48:00 PM
4003 is still at PL along with 1676 Matt :)
Yeah silly me, just remembered John reported it being there earlier on. Given 4003 had its bumper removed after its accident, it was more than likely the one behind 4021 John
Withdrawn vehicles are usually parked in the far end corner on WN's yard so 4003 was obviously moved so they could move the engine to 4021
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 11, 2013, 09:12:55 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 11, 2013, 08:54:42 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 11, 2013, 08:48:00 PM
4003 is still at PL along with 1676 Matt :)
Yeah silly me, just remembered John reported it being there earlier on. Given 4003 had its bumper removed after its accident, it was more than likely the one behind 4021 John
Withdrawn vehicles are usually parked in the far end corner on WN's yard so 4003 was obviously moved so they could move the engine to 4021
Engine? I thought it was running gear 4003 was donating
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 11, 2013, 09:34:19 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 11, 2013, 09:12:55 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 11, 2013, 08:54:42 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 11, 2013, 08:48:00 PM
4003 is still at PL along with 1676 Matt :)
Yeah silly me, just remembered John reported it being there earlier on. Given 4003 had its bumper removed after its accident, it was more than likely the one behind 4021 John
Withdrawn vehicles are usually parked in the far end corner on WN's yard so 4003 was obviously moved so they could move the engine to 4021
Engine? I thought it was running gear 4003 was donating
It may not have been 4003 I saw inside the workshop. Just another Spectra having work done on it's front end
The whole engine of 4021 was on the floor, either just removed or about to go in.
running gear = engine/gearbox/axles etc.
Quote from: mranon on December 11, 2013, 10:04:41 PM
running gear = engine/gearbox/axles etc.
Oh, I did not think the engine counted, thanks!
Quote from: John on December 11, 2013, 09:39:15 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 11, 2013, 09:34:19 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 11, 2013, 09:12:55 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 11, 2013, 08:54:42 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 11, 2013, 08:48:00 PM
4003 is still at PL along with 1676 Matt :)
Yeah silly me, just remembered John reported it being there earlier on. Given 4003 had its bumper removed after its accident, it was more than likely the one behind 4021 John
Withdrawn vehicles are usually parked in the far end corner on WN's yard so 4003 was obviously moved so they could move the engine to 4021
Engine? I thought it was running gear 4003 was donating
It may not have been 4003 I saw inside the workshop. Just another Spectra having work done on it's front end
The whole engine of 4021 was on the floor, either just removed or about to go in.
4003 was definitely in the garage forward facing today but there didn't seam to be much happening. 4021 was next to it facing the other way with an engine in. I would guess it would be easier to swap an engine if they were facing the same way? so maybe not an engine swap. Is 4003 that badly damaged to warrant withdrawal? The damage only looks superficial to me (no expert of course) :P
from what the pic of it on flickr shows, surely the front windscreen and panel/headlight unit could come off 4007
Quote from: mranon on December 13, 2013, 04:37:04 PM
from what the pic of it on flickr shows, surely the front windscreen and panel/headlight unit could come off 4007
The damage doesn't look to bad but maybe it is structural or maybe other issues with the bus
2 buses collided and one crashed into a stand in the bus station not long ago today. The picture clearly shows the bus damage. It has to be my home bus - 82... 😒😒😒
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/emergency-services/2013/12/16/two-hurt-as-buses-collide-at-wolverhampton-station/ (http://www.expressandstar.com/news/emergency-services/2013/12/16/two-hurt-as-buses-collide-at-wolverhampton-station/)
That's another Benz biting the dust, then.
The 82 in the picture is 1654. The other bus looks like a Merc but you can't see how much that one is damaged.
Quote from: Roy on December 16, 2013, 12:44:01 PM
The 82 in the picture is 1654. The other bus looks like a Merc but you can't see how much that one is damaged.
Obviously, we can see it is 1654, T654 FOB. The article says that bus numbers 26 and 82 so I would assume a B6 would be the second bus.
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 16, 2013, 01:15:51 PM
Quote from: Roy on December 16, 2013, 12:44:01 PM
The 82 in the picture is 1654. The other bus looks like a Merc but you can't see how much that one is damaged.
Obviously, we can see it is 1654, T654 FOB. The article says that bus numbers 26 and 82 so I would assume a B6 would be the second bus.
If you read the article again, it says 82 and
25.
Quote from: Roy on December 16, 2013, 01:20:16 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 16, 2013, 01:15:51 PM
Quote from: Roy on December 16, 2013, 12:44:01 PM
The 82 in the picture is 1654. The other bus looks like a Merc but you can't see how much that one is damaged.
Obviously, we can see it is 1654, T654 FOB. The article says that bus numbers 26 and 82 so I would assume a B6 would be the second bus.
If you read the article again, it says 82 and 25.
I stand corrected, I mis-read the 25 for 26 and I entered the number 6 instead of number 5. Okay, another Merc it is. I wonder how it happened.
1654 is in TWM colours so must be a candidate for withdrawal. I am guessing that the other Merc in the photo was the other bus involved. This is also in TWM colours so its fate may depend on the extent of the damage to the rear.
Incidentally, the Birmingham Mail disagrees with the Express and Star and says that the two routes were 82 and 26.
Quote from: Roy on December 16, 2013, 01:38:44 PM
1654 is in TWM colours so must be a candidate for withdrawal. I am guessing that the other Merc in the photo was the other bus involved. This is also in TWM colours so its fate may depend on the extent of the damage to the rear.
Incidentally, the Birmingham Mail disagrees with the Express and Star and says that the two routes were 82 and 26.
It seems likely it was the 82 and 25 that were involved, given that the 25 stand is in front of the 82 stand and the 26 stand is the other side of the bus station.
They are still cleaning it up now with the smashed window being replaced
I believe the Merc on the 25 would have worked the 08:05 25A
Yes, I saw this a little after it happened at about 08:20 (not sure where E&S got their time from) and it involved two Mercedes 0405N on routes 82 and 25. It appeared to have been the fault of the 82 driver but I didn't see it happen so won't comment on this any further.
When I returned at 16:00, two people were sweeping and stands B and C will remain closed all evening, so I've heard.
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on December 16, 2013, 05:11:17 PM
Yes, I saw this a little after it happened at about 08:20 (not sure where E&S got their time from) and it involved two Mercedes 0405N on routes 82 and 25. It appeared to have been the fault of the 82 driver but I didn't see it happen so won't comment on this any further.
When I returned at 16:00, two people were sweeping and stands B and C will remain closed all evening, so I've heard.
Yes saw them in attendance at 15:15. Think they may have been putting in replacement glass panels in too but couldn't see properly
Why did it have to be 2 Mercs, why not a couple of Tridents or B7s :(
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 16, 2013, 05:19:03 PM
Why did it have to be 2 Mercs, why not a couple of Tridents or B7s :(
Really we should be wishing the crash never happened in the first place as two people were hurt so I hope they are ok
Thoughts to the persons injured.
Quote from: Roy on December 16, 2013, 01:38:44 PM
1654 is in TWM colours so must be a candidate for withdrawal. I am guessing that the other Merc in the photo was the other bus involved. This is also in TWM colours so its fate may depend on the extent of the damage to the rear.
Incidentally, the Birmingham Mail disagrees with the Express and Star and says that the two routes were 82 and 26.
Express and Star had it as 82 & 26 this morning, but then getting the story right in the first place seems to be difficult for them.
Quote from: the trainbasher on December 16, 2013, 05:36:17 PM
Thoughts to the persons injured.
The two people injured were the two drivers who sustained minor neck injuries. I can't imagine it would've been a particularly high speed crash, so hopefully their injuries will be minimal.
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 16, 2013, 05:45:05 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on December 16, 2013, 05:36:17 PM
Thoughts to the persons injured.
The two people injured were the two drivers who sustained minor neck injuries. I can't imagine it would've been a particularly high speed crash, so hopefully their injuries will be minimal.
I wonder whether it was the fault of the driver or a fault possibly with the bus (Although the latter maybe unlikley)
With the vast majority of accidents similar to this it is driver error. Obviously I don't know the cause but most likely scenario.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 16, 2013, 06:30:17 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 16, 2013, 05:45:05 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on December 16, 2013, 05:36:17 PM
Thoughts to the persons injured.
The two people injured were the two drivers who sustained minor neck injuries. I can't imagine it would've been a particularly high speed crash, so hopefully their injuries will be minimal.
I wonder whether it was the fault of the driver or a fault possibly with the bus (Although the latter maybe unlikley)
(my post seems to have disappeared, so reposting) There are many potential causes of course, one could be an electrical fault causing a surge through the accelerator cable as I remember happening in a NXWM Merc previously. As LS states though, it is more likely to be simple driver error. Nobody can know at this stage.
Could be we see a couple of PEs withdrawn Mercs reinstated if the damage is to bad?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 16, 2013, 10:03:57 PM
Could be we see a couple of PEs withdrawn Mercs reinstated if the damage is to bad?
Not really Stu. I think WN would be able to cope without 1 or 2 Mercs
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 16, 2013, 10:03:57 PM
Could be we see a couple of PEs withdrawn Mercs reinstated if the damage is to bad?
If the need for buses was that great, I'm sure they could borrow a B7RLE or 2 from other garages, in a hypothetical situation
Quote from: Sh4166 on December 16, 2013, 10:14:48 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 16, 2013, 10:03:57 PM
Could be we see a couple of PEs withdrawn Mercs reinstated if the damage is to bad?
If the need for buses was that great, I'm sure they could borrow a B7RLE or 2 from other garages, in a hypothetical situation
Knowing WN they will put 4003/7 back on the road as replacements :o
Info I have is that it was a fault with the bus, however it seams the all new and safety singing bus station has occurred yet another serious incident regardless of who or what was at fault. This is the 3rd or 4th incident where a bus has collided with the bus station. My suggestion would have been to angle the bus stops AWAY from the stand or at least parallel or leave a bigger gap to the stand I believe if this was the case most of the incidents could have been minimized or reduced. The bus station is an absolute joke considering the money spent nothing seams to work or function correctly:
toilets frequently out of order
No hot water
Broken/faulty dryers
Easy access to toilet facilities for vandals (thus the amount of vandalism)
Incorrect timetables on displays
Broken/faulty sliding doors
Not enough room for buses
not enough room for passengers
When it snows/rains it comes in through the gaps in the roof
Endless relaying of paving as it seams to keep cracking
Nowhere for buses to wait (breakdown/layover)
Shortage of leaflets/timetables
Maybe you can add to the list, we can send a copy off for absolutely nothing to be done about it!
The 59 has been in Absolute chaos this afternoon with waits of 25-35 minutes and when about 5 of them appeared two went out of service and ran dead to another point of the route (To keep to timing because they were running over half hour late) and the 3 buses that did pick up were very very busy with 5514 on my journey into Wolverhampton being packed to the brim and 4569 and 4540 both left Wolverhampton almost near full.
Plus most of the other 59's are also running slightly late too! 126's haven't been running that good this afternoon either with several entering Wolverhampton together
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 17, 2013, 04:22:47 PM
The 59 has been in Absolute chaos this afternoon with waits of 25-35 minutes and when about 5 of them appeared two went out of service and ran dead to another point of the route (To keep to timing because they were running over half hour late) and the 3 buses that did pick up were very very busy with 5514 on my journey into Wolverhampton being packed to the brim and 4569 and 4540 both left Wolverhampton almost near full.
Plus most of the other 59's are also running slightly late too! 126's haven't been running that good this afternoon either with several entering Wolverhampton together
Yeah 126's all over the place, 3 entered B'ham at the same time this afternoon and then when I got to Dudley there were about 5 at once going both ways + 4558 on the 126 has gained a new bright red bonnet
No 4558 has gained a replacement panel at the front underneath the windscreen. 4587 has had a mismatched panel at the rear
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 17, 2013, 05:34:40 PM
No 4558 has gained a replacement panel at the front underneath the windscreen. 4587 has had a mismatched panel at the rear
Yes sorry, I meant at the front I was speaking in car terms, apologies
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on December 17, 2013, 05:38:01 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 17, 2013, 05:34:40 PM
No 4558 has gained a replacement panel at the front underneath the windscreen. 4587 has had a mismatched panel at the rear
Yes sorry, I meant at the front I was speaking in car terms, apologies
No worries Matt :)
Anyway I have been told that the changes to the 28 are as follows:
Will not serve the Ashmore Park Loop (Will just serve the bottom part of Griffiths Drive) and also will leave Wolverhampton via the 59 route (Right Pipers Row,Left Queen St,Right Princess St,Right Broad St onto Wednesfield Rd).
Both Mercs involved in yesterday's crash have been withdrawn
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 17, 2013, 07:51:33 PM
Both Mercs involved in yesterday's crash have been withdrawn
Any news if there are likely to be any replacements Nathan, or will WN be ok at the moment?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 17, 2013, 07:51:33 PM
Both Mercs involved in yesterday's crash have been withdrawn
Do you know the ID of the other Merc involved Nath? :)
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 17, 2013, 08:05:52 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 17, 2013, 07:51:33 PM
Both Mercs involved in yesterday's crash have been withdrawn
Any news if there are likely to be any replacements Nathan, or will WN be ok at the moment?
Should be fine. If it came to the worst and WN were that short of buses then 4003 would probably be reinstated but they seem fine
Quote from: Rob4367 on December 17, 2013, 08:10:57 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 17, 2013, 07:51:33 PM
Both Mercs involved in yesterday's crash have been withdrawn
Do you know the ID of the other Merc involved Nath? :)
Couldn't say at this stage but i will try and find out for anyone who is wondering
4313 is back at wn with 4311 and 4312 coming back too.
Just to clear things up also, I can categorically say it was not a fault with the bus in the accident, it was driver error.
wasnt it reported earlier that 4310/11 were back at wn, but sent straight for refurb?
Quote from: mranon on December 18, 2013, 03:14:19 PM
wasnt it reported earlier that 4310/11 were back at wn, but sent straight for refurb?
Yes, 4310 is part way through refurb in West Brom garage
Quote from: Driver03 on December 18, 2013, 02:35:39 PM
4313 is back at wn with 4311 and 4312 coming back too.
Just to clear things up also, I can categorically say it was not a fault with the bus in the accident, it was driver error.
4314 may move back to WN aswell as 4312 & 4313 :)
Quote from: Rob4367 on December 18, 2013, 03:42:31 PM
Quote from: Driver03 on December 18, 2013, 02:35:39 PM
4313 is back at wn with 4311 and 4312 coming back too.
Just to clear things up also, I can categorically say it was not a fault with the bus in the accident, it was driver error.
4314 may move back to WN aswell as 4312 & 4313 :)
Probably not 3 buses will be enough to cover but we will have to wait and see
Btw not 100% but the other bus i think involved wad 1675. Boty buses have infact been scrapped
Quote from: Driver03 on December 18, 2013, 02:35:39 PM
4313 is back at wn with 4311 and 4312 coming back too.
Just to clear things up also, I can categorically say it was not a fault with the bus in the accident, it was driver error.
4311 is already back at WN. Transfered back with 4310 and both are away for repaint/refurb
I wish we could have 4314 back at WN but 4313 definately not complaining about.
Quote from: Ashley on December 18, 2013, 04:36:58 PM
I wish we could have 4314 back at WN but 4313 definately not complaining about.
Tbh i am glad we have some of the older tridents back :)
I can confirm the buses involved in the collision were 1654 and 1675 involved in the collision. Both have been withdrawn and will be sent for scrap.
4311/12/13 are back to replace them. Turns out 4311 came back to WN as a loan,Went back to YW,Put straight into the paintshop but will transfer over to WN when it comes back.
There are no plans for 4314 to transfer over for the time being.
being as 4310/11 are in refurb, and 4313 is already in nxwm livery, will 4312 get a makeover before it goes in service? i wonder if the other tridents (i.e 4305-9) will come back to wn again
Quote from: Driver03 on December 18, 2013, 02:35:39 PM
4313 is back at wn with 4311 and 4312 coming back too.
Just to clear things up also, I can categorically say it was not a fault with the bus in the accident, it was driver error.
how can you 'categorically' say it was the drivers fault?
4313 on 256/257 duties today
Quote from: mranon on December 18, 2013, 11:24:58 PM
being as 4310/11 are in refurb, and 4313 is already in nxwm livery, will 4312 get a makeover before it goes in service? i wonder if the other tridents (i.e 4305-9) will come back to wn again
Unless some more buses get withdrawn for whatever reason then I can't see the need for more tridents to transfer over.
4310/11 replaced 4003/7 and 1676 (Well 4311 is back at YW but is transfering over)
4312/13 replace 1654/75
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 19, 2013, 12:12:14 PM
Quote from: mranon on December 18, 2013, 11:24:58 PM
being as 4310/11 are in refurb, and 4313 is already in nxwm livery, will 4312 get a makeover before it goes in service? i wonder if the other tridents (i.e 4305-9) will come back to wn again
Well 4311 is still tenically allocated to YW but when it comes back from repaint it will transfer to WN.
According to NXWM computer / Nov fleet changes it has already officially transferred to WN
Anybody any idea why i saw a WN green liveried bus running along the WA38 route in Darlaston this morning? Sorry couldn't catch the fleet number?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 19, 2013, 02:33:04 PM
Anybody any idea why i saw a WN green liveried bus running along the WA38 route in Darlaston this morning? Sorry couldn't catch the fleet number?
A hybrid or A Route 5 branded B7RLE?
Hybrid Nathan. Was driven by a driver and displayed NOT IN SERVICE!
Quote from: Driver03 on December 19, 2013, 02:51:50 PM
Quote from: 4006 on December 19, 2013, 01:39:30 AM
Quote from: Driver03 on December 18, 2013, 02:35:39 PM
4313 is back at wn with 4311 and 4312 coming back too.
Just to clear things up also, I can categorically say it was not a fault with the bus in the accident, it was driver error.
how can you 'categorically' say it was the drivers fault?
I've seen the VCR and subsequent report identifying there was no defect present, plus two days before it passed its MOT. Categorical?
A fault can occur a day after an MOT. An MOT proves it passed the test on 'That day' If you are a driver as you say, you would not be permitted access to the previous VCR's furthermore it is not correct to broadcast on the internet that the Driver is at fault pending his/her discliplinary/fact finding interview!!! If you are a driver, furthermore shame on you to digress and put blame on a colleague before they have had chance to defend themselves. I'm not commenting on the VCR but obviously if the driver was taken to hospital, he may have not signed it off
you could, and indeed leave the mot and hours later get stopped by a roadside check, and they find something! even if its as silly as some theiving git nicking the emergency hammers!! the mot means that the vehicle met the minimum required standard during the test. the main point here, is that people involved are here to tell the story, and i hope they genuinely recover from any possible injuries. metal/buildings can be repaired or replaced.
I presume WN is the garage which got the HD CCTV etc on their 45xx's?
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 19, 2013, 03:44:00 PM
I presume WN is the garage which got the HD CCTV etc on their 45xx's?
All I know is 4535-4609 at WN and 4610-34 at BC's screens are blank and have been for the past few years! :)
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 19, 2013, 03:46:22 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 19, 2013, 03:44:00 PM
I presume WN is the garage which got the HD CCTV etc on their 45xx's?
All I know is 4535-4609 at WN and 4610-34 at BC's screens are blank and have been for the past few years! :)
Well the majority of 45xx's I see on the 126 have the HD forward facing camera installed. Can only presume this is what Tony is on about with the investment.
Well I will look out for that when I next catch a trident ;) (That will be in a few minutes to catch 4552 on WN59)
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 19, 2013, 03:50:50 PM
Well I will look out for that when I next catch a trident ;) (That will be in a few minutes to catch 4552 on WN59)
Have a look at the dashboard from the outside. You'll find the brand new HD camera there. Don't know if 4552 has it but alot 45's I've seen has.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 19, 2013, 03:16:53 PM
Hybrid Nathan. Was driven by a driver and displayed NOT IN SERVICE!
Maybe taking up duties or coming off a 79?
Quote from: 4006 on December 19, 2013, 03:17:17 PM
Quote from: Driver03 on December 19, 2013, 02:51:50 PM
Quote from: 4006 on December 19, 2013, 01:39:30 AM
Quote from: Driver03 on December 18, 2013, 02:35:39 PM
4313 is back at wn with 4311 and 4312 coming back too.
Just to clear things up also, I can categorically say it was not a fault with the bus in the accident, it was driver error.
how can you 'categorically' say it was the drivers fault?
I've seen the VCR and subsequent report identifying there was no defect present, plus two days before it passed its MOT. Categorical?
A fault can occur a day after an MOT. An MOT proves it passed the test on 'That day' If you are a driver as you say, you would not be permitted access to the previous VCR's furthermore it is not correct to broadcast on the internet that the Driver is at fault pending his/her discliplinary/fact finding interview!!! If you are a driver, furthermore shame on you to digress and put blame on a colleague before they have had chance to defend themselves. I'm not commenting on the VCR but obviously if the driver was taken to hospital, he may have not signed it off
I have removed my post, I only saw the VCR by chance. I however don't agree that assumptions should be made that it was a defective bus, that was the point I was trying to highlight just as you did with me assuming driver error.
Quote from: Driver03 on December 19, 2013, 04:12:29 PM
Quote from: 4006 on December 19, 2013, 03:17:17 PM
Quote from: Driver03 on December 19, 2013, 02:51:50 PM
Quote from: 4006 on December 19, 2013, 01:39:30 AM
Quote from: Driver03 on December 18, 2013, 02:35:39 PM
4313 is back at wn with 4311 and 4312 coming back too.
Just to clear things up also, I can categorically say it was not a fault with the bus in the accident, it was driver error.
how can you 'categorically' say it was the drivers fault?
I've seen the VCR and subsequent report identifying there was no defect present, plus two days before it passed its MOT. Categorical?
A fault can occur a day after an MOT. An MOT proves it passed the test on 'That day' If you are a driver as you say, you would not be permitted access to the previous VCR's furthermore it is not correct to broadcast on the internet that the Driver is at fault pending his/her discliplinary/fact finding interview!!! If you are a driver, furthermore shame on you to digress and put blame on a colleague before they have had chance to defend themselves. I'm not commenting on the VCR but obviously if the driver was taken to hospital, he may have not signed it off
I have removed my post, I only saw the VCR by chance. I however don't agree that assumptions should be made that it was a defective bus, that was the point I was trying to highlight just as you did with me assuming driver error.
Well the fact that the reason is being discussed here can really contravene forum rules, as neither party can defend themselves at all..
Tell you what? I'd recommend not posting reference the accident if it could affect and show judgement on both/either sides.
Comprehend.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 19, 2013, 04:16:26 PM
Quote from: Driver03 on December 19, 2013, 04:12:29 PM
Quote from: 4006 on December 19, 2013, 03:17:17 PM
Quote from: Driver03 on December 19, 2013, 02:51:50 PM
Quote from: 4006 on December 19, 2013, 01:39:30 AM
Quote from: Driver03 on December 18, 2013, 02:35:39 PM
4313 is back at wn with 4311 and 4312 coming back too.
Just to clear things up also, I can categorically say it was not a fault with the bus in the accident, it was driver error.
how can you 'categorically' say it was the drivers fault?
I've seen the VCR and subsequent report identifying there was no defect present, plus two days before it passed its MOT. Categorical?
A fault can occur a day after an MOT. An MOT proves it passed the test on 'That day' If you are a driver as you say, you would not be permitted access to the previous VCR's furthermore it is not correct to broadcast on the internet that the Driver is at fault pending his/her discliplinary/fact finding interview!!! If you are a driver, furthermore shame on you to digress and put blame on a colleague before they have had chance to defend themselves. I'm not commenting on the VCR but obviously if the driver was taken to hospital, he may have not signed it off
I have removed my post, I only saw the VCR by chance. I however don't agree that assumptions should be made that it was a defective bus, that was the point I was trying to highlight just as you did with me assuming driver error.
Well the fact that the reason is being discussed here can really contravene forum rules, as neither party can defend themselves at all..
Tell you what? I'd recommend not posting reference the accident if it could affect and show judgement on both/either sides.
Comprehend.
Agreed. Can post related be removed? Apologies to you and 4006.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 19, 2013, 12:12:14 PM
Quote from: mranon on December 18, 2013, 11:24:58 PM
being as 4310/11 are in refurb, and 4313 is already in nxwm livery, will 4312 get a makeover before it goes in service? i wonder if the other tridents (i.e 4305-9) will come back to wn again
Well 4311 is still tenically allocated to YW but when it comes back from repaint it will transfer to WN.
Not correct at all. It was transferred to Wolverhampton on the 14th November if you want the exact date.
Don't worry Tony I misheard the info so thanks anyway :)
Quote from: Winston on December 19, 2013, 12:21:38 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 19, 2013, 12:12:14 PM
Quote from: mranon on December 18, 2013, 11:24:58 PM
being as 4310/11 are in refurb, and 4313 is already in nxwm livery, will 4312 get a makeover before it goes in service? i wonder if the other tridents (i.e 4305-9) will come back to wn again
Well 4311 is still tenically allocated to YW but when it comes back from repaint it will transfer to WN.
According to NXWM computer / Nov fleet changes it has already officially transferred to WN
10, 11 and 13 are on WN fleet strength
Possibly the same green device mentioned above, there was a Enviro Hybrid being rescused off The Keyway around 4pm today, on the slip road upto Bilston Road, no idea why it would be there but Mansfield were in the process of recovering it.
4016 on the 82 today. Beast :D
Quote from: DOC37V on December 19, 2013, 10:03:50 PM
Possibly the same green device mentioned above, there was a Enviro Hybrid being rescused off The Keyway around 4pm today, on the slip road upto Bilston Road, no idea why it would be there but Mansfield were in the process of recovering it.
4016 on the 82 today. Beast :D
There are quite a few Spectra's out tonight on the 59 in which I rode a very fast journey aboard 4017 on the 59 this evening.
4541 (Fastest Trident at WN by far) is having a new engine fitted due to the current one buggering up. Lets hope its as fast as it was before
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 19, 2013, 10:15:03 PM
4541 (Fastest Trident at WN by far) is having a new engine fitted due to the current one buggering up. Lets hope its as fast as it was before
Fastest WN Trident by far? I doubt it. The fastest would of course be 4586 with its Euro 4, there is really very little difference between the Euro 3s regardless of gearbox
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 19, 2013, 10:15:03 PM
4541 (Fastest Trident at WN by far) is having a new engine fitted due to the current one buggering up. Lets hope its as fast as it was before
Will the new engine be Euro 4? ;D
Quote from: Sh4166 on December 20, 2013, 12:20:59 AM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 19, 2013, 10:15:03 PM
4541 (Fastest Trident at WN by far) is having a new engine fitted due to the current one buggering up. Lets hope its as fast as it was before
Will the new engine be Euro 4? ;D
Let's hope so! :)
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 19, 2013, 11:55:03 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 19, 2013, 10:15:03 PM
4541 (Fastest Trident at WN by far) is having a new engine fitted due to the current one buggering up. Lets hope its as fast as it was before
Fastest WN Trident by far? I doubt it. The fastest would of course be 4586 with its Euro 4, there is really very little difference between the Euro 3s regardless of gearbox
what about 4585?
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 19, 2013, 03:52:26 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 19, 2013, 03:50:50 PM
Well I will look out for that when I next catch a trident ;) (That will be in a few minutes to catch 4552 on WN59)
Have a look at the dashboard from the outside. You'll find the brand new HD camera there. Don't know if 4552 has it but alot 45's I've seen has.
I have seen these recently also but not noticed them before. All the Tridents (as far as I know) had forward facing cameras previously fitted into the destination blinds. Maybe the location change in order to get a better view of what the driver would see?
Quote from: 4006 on December 20, 2013, 01:07:14 AM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 19, 2013, 11:55:03 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 19, 2013, 10:15:03 PM
4541 (Fastest Trident at WN by far) is having a new engine fitted due to the current one buggering up. Lets hope its as fast as it was before
Fastest WN Trident by far? I doubt it. The fastest would of course be 4586 with its Euro 4, there is really very little difference between the Euro 3s regardless of gearbox
Sorry I forgot about 4586 Matt which I rode last night and is by far WN's fastest trident. 4541's engine may just be a new Euro 3 engine like the replacement for 4606 but lets hope it is an Euro 4 engine :)
And what about 4585 4006?
what about 4585?
4313 on 126 today. 2pm in Bearwood towards city.
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 20, 2013, 02:59:52 PM
4313 on 126 today. 2pm in Bearwood towards city.
Towards Which City? Brum or Wolves? (Presumably you are talking about Birmingham)? Wish I had saw or even caught that now :( ;)
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 20, 2013, 03:58:34 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 20, 2013, 02:59:52 PM
4313 on 126 today. 2pm in Bearwood towards city.
Towards Which City? Brum or Wolves? (Presumably you are talking about Birmingham)? Wish I had saw or even caught that now :( ;)
Glasgow... no, Birmingham of course. I don't refer to Wolverhampton as a city. I'm about to go out to try and catch it. :)
just after 14.00 a 1 branded Hybrid was just turning into St. Lawrence Way, Darlaston, presumably returning to Park Lane - didn't see if it had come from Walsall or Wednesbury - were would it have come from?
Quote from: Sh4318 on December 20, 2013, 12:20:59 AM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 19, 2013, 10:15:03 PM
4541 (Fastest Trident at WN by far) is having a new engine fitted due to the current one buggering up. Lets hope its as fast as it was before
Will the new engine be Euro 4? ;D
Will just be a standard Euro 3 replacement
Had a nice empty 4313 on the 126 this evening. It must've done an E from Wolverhampton to Bearwood as it was sat NIS there when I arrived. We were leapfrogging 4575 which is still out with its branding.
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 20, 2013, 09:39:14 PM
Had a nice empty 4313 on the 126 this evening. It must've done an E from Wolverhampton to Bearwood as it was sat NIS there when I arrived. We were leapfrogging 4575 which is still out with its branding.
I hear that 4312 will be going into paintshop when it transfer back to WN so 4575 may possibly stay in 126 branding for a little longer
Quote from: Nathan on December 20, 2013, 09:41:07 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 20, 2013, 09:39:14 PM
Had a nice empty 4313 on the 126 this evening. It must've done an E from Wolverhampton to Bearwood as it was sat NIS there when I arrived. We were leapfrogging 4575 which is still out with its branding.
I hear that 4312 will be going into paintshop when it transfer back to WN so 4575 may possibly stay in 126 branding for a little longer
Has 4579 gone to walsall?
No 4579 is still in service. 4310/12 and 4559 are the buses away atm :)
2017 > 126 near Dudley heading to Wolverhampton 1pm
Northwood Park Circulars and possibly Stafford Rd bus services have been diverted since late afternoon due to a large fire at the old Strykers Bowling Alley. Diversions still in place till end of service
Both 4575 and 4579 were out on the 126 yesterday (Sunday 22nd).
Also, if anyone sees 508, 555 or 638 at any time over the next couple of weeks, could they let me know what route it's on and where/when they saw it?
Quote from: Matt on December 23, 2013, 09:00:06 AM
Both 4575 and 4579 were out on the 126 yesterday (Sunday 22nd).
Also, if anyone sees 508, 555 or 638 at any time over the next couple of weeks, could they let me know what route it's on and where/when they saw it?
I will be on the lookout for you Matt :)
32/33 still on diversion up Stafford Rd then Elston Hall Lane due to Busbury Lane being closed after a severe fire
Quote from: Matt on December 23, 2013, 09:00:06 AM
Both 4575 and 4579 were out on the 126 yesterday (Sunday 22nd).
Also, if anyone sees 508, 555 or 638 at any time over the next couple of weeks, could they let me know what route it's on and where/when they saw it?
Saw 638 on the 62A in Lichfield St this afternoon on the 1PM 62A from Wolverhampton
Quote from: Matt on December 20, 2013, 02:59:52 PM
4313 on 126 today. 2pm in Bearwood towards city.
4313 is spending today on the 59.
Why is it a poor bus? 4313 is stil as great as ever performancecwise
Quote from: Nathan on December 23, 2013, 02:44:18 PM
Why is it a poor bus? 4313 is stil as great as ever performancecwise
I meant I feel sorry for it having to spend the whole day on that route... bet it misses Yardley Wood! (well if buses had feelings...)
Have a break, have a kitkat guys...
...anyway back to topic apparently the 255s are on off delayed round merry Hell because of the shopping. Is that having a 0020 departure tonight?
Quote from: the trainbasher on December 23, 2013, 03:05:28 PM
Have a break, have a kitkat guys...
...anyway back to topic apparently the 255s are on off delayed round merry Hell because of the shopping. Is that having a 0020 departure tonight?
255 isn't included in the 00:20 departures. Once again WN59 affected by bad traffic
Ok cheers :-)
All UK public transport is going to suffer delays today chaps, if it isn't the infatuation of the worst day of the year its wind and rain #rollonsummertime
As for 4313, could be on a worse route then WN59 :p
Quote from: Ashley on December 23, 2013, 05:13:29 PM
All UK public transport is going to suffer delays today chaps, if it isn't the infatuation of the worst day of the year its wind and rain #rollonsummertime
As for 4313, could be on a worse route then WN59 :p
Like the 529
Or the 11 or 79... :D
Quote from: Ashley on December 23, 2013, 07:38:56 PM
Or the 11 or 79... :D
Tbh there are far more worse routes you could put it on than the 59. Seems pretty good since the last time I rode it
4541, A few more buses and 2 Hybrids VOR atm probably exposing the recent appearences of more unbranded B5's and Tridents/Spectra's on the 1
I did tell you earlier 4313 is a decent bus
Quote from: Ashley on December 23, 2013, 09:28:46 PM
I did tell you earlier 4313 is a decent bus
Oh it is; nippy too.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 23, 2013, 10:23:20 PM
Quote from: Ashley on December 23, 2013, 09:28:46 PM
I did tell you earlier 4313 is a decent bus
Oh it is; nippy too.
You've got that right LS ;) Driver was running late and we did get a fast thrash on the 59 but unfortunatley all the way out of Wolverhampton was clogged with traffic but soon as we got past Wednesfield the driver kept kicking down then driving at speed :) Good bus indeed :)
4568 (i think) on the 3 today, 1055 ex Castlecroft
Quote from: Ashley on December 27, 2013, 10:46:19 AM
4568 (i think) on the 3 today, 1055 ex Castlecroft
Alongside 2076
Im told its 4563 but i think theres a second trident on either the 3 or 4 (should have gone to specsavers i know)
Quote from: Ashley on December 27, 2013, 02:04:06 PM
Im told its 4563 but i think theres a second trident on either the 3 or 4 (should have gone to specsavers i know)
4570 is on the 3 today
4313 has been on the 529 today with a faulty front and side dot matrix display
Quote from: Matt on December 23, 2013, 09:00:06 AM
Both 4575 and 4579 were out on the 126 yesterday (Sunday 22nd).
Also, if anyone sees 508, 555 or 638 at any time over the next couple of weeks, could they let me know what route it's on and where/when they saw it?
4575/9 still hanging in there in TWM livery and 126 branding on the 126 today
Saw 555 on the 82 i think
638 was on the 62/62A/26
Quote from: Nathan on December 27, 2013, 07:53:22 PM
4575/9 still hanging in there in TWM livery and 126 branding on the 126 today
Saw 555 on the 82 i think
638 was on the 62/62A/26
Both 555 and 638 were on the 82.
Quote from: Matt on December 27, 2013, 07:56:00 PM
Quote from: Nathan on December 27, 2013, 07:53:22 PM
4575/9 still hanging in there in TWM livery and 126 branding on the 126 today
Saw 555 on the 82 i think
638 was on the 62/62A/26
Both 555 and 638 were on the 82.
Silly me ;) I knew i had seen them somewhere
Nathan, we ddint have the pleasure of 638 today on 62s. 26/62/62A had 632, 634, 601, 662 and 554
Quote from: Ashley on December 27, 2013, 08:51:50 PM
Nathan, we ddint have the pleasure of 638 today on 62s. 26/62/62A had 632, 634, 601, 662 and 554
Yes i caught 634 on the 62A and saw 554 coming the other way
In other WN news:
I've been told that 4311 should be out by the weekend (I was told the other day it was having repairs)
The 126 is on diversion today. Noticed 4554 on Causeway Green Road near Brandhall.
Quote from: Matt on December 28, 2013, 02:02:58 PM
The 126 is on diversion today. Noticed 4554 on Causeway Green Road near Brandhall.
Saw 4554 running together with another trident on the 126 coming into Wolverhampton Bus Station so thats why it was delayed
According to a twitter user, 4553 had a 'burning oil smell'
Just a random post but after months of B5's on the 59 i'm surprised there is no sign of etching or vandalism at all. :D
Yet the ones on the 1 are starting to get etched
Quote from: Ashley on December 29, 2013, 10:06:21 AM
Yet the ones on the 1 are starting to get etched
Haven't noticed any etching on any hybrids at PL yet.
Just seen a very cool model of 2068 on the 126E by corgi diecast i think i might order one...
http://www.corgi.co.uk/shop/corgi-direct/corgi-catalogue-january-june-2014/the-original-omnibus-collection/om46704b-wright-eclipse-2-national-express-west-midlands-126e-dudley-via-roseville/
there is also 2068 on the 27...
http://www.corgi.co.uk/shop/corgi-direct/corgi-catalogue-january-june-2014/the-original-omnibus-collection/om46704a-wright-eclipse-2-national-express-west-midlands-27-wolverhampton-via-goldthorn-park
just thought it would be cool to show you guys who havent seen it
It has already been discussed in other threads unfortunately Dom with links already posted up :)
Oh just thought i would post it i didnt know someone had already posted it
Quote from: domino.99 on December 30, 2013, 11:16:16 AM
Oh just thought i would post it i didnt know someone had already posted it
Don't worry about it :) tbh I wondered why the two destinations picked are of routes that aren't even allocated B7RLE's (Well the B7's are on 27's on Sundays).
Yeah and i've only seen a b7rle on the 126/E 4 times so very unusual
Quote from: Nathan on December 27, 2013, 05:18:55 PM
4313 has been on the 529 today with a faulty front and side dot matrix display
4313 on 126 at Bearwood at 10am today, displays seem OK now.
Look at the back windows upstairs on some of the E400H's, there are small amounts
4541 back in service now after having a new engine fitted on the 82 (11:00 departure from WN)
4570, 4594, 4606, 5416 all broke down today
A merc was taken off the 33 and returned to garage 1230 approx
2069 has its front indicators stuck on
555's heating system has leaked a puddle in the offside buggy bay
Was 4584 also a defective bus today or was that parked on stafford Street at 1615 approx as a peak time extra vehicle?
4584 was reported at PE this morning
4584 was parked in the bus stop layby outside the hogs Head on stafford street at 1615 with the hazards on and engine running
Quote from: Ashley on January 02, 2014, 05:40:16 PM
4584 was parked in the bus stop layby outside the hogs Head on stafford street at 1615 with the hazards on and engine running
It may have had a minor defect whilst on the 255, hence its visit to Pensnett, then been returned to Wolverhampton to enter service on an afternoon peak board - you would've seen it about to do so
598 B6 on Wolves 28 broken down in Wood End (broken wiper blade).
Local Ashmore Park 'rude boyz' if that's the current technical term, not happy & giving poor driver some lip.
(Would have to break down in the section not used by another route! :( )
Update : 4010, one of the other buses operating the route eventually turned up.
I gather the driver of 598 wasn't a fan of the Spectra!
Update : Just spotted 598 back in service in Wolverhampton Bs.
Yes I think that's the term for that load of scum ;D.
2015 is on the 126 and 2020 I think replaced a Trident on the 256
When travelling from Broad Street to New Street early this afternoon l caught B7 2015 when it turned up by chance. Do they appear in evenings/Sundays on 126s or are they just rare subs?
Quote from: JoNi on January 04, 2014, 06:37:44 PM
When travelling from Broad Street to New Street early this afternoon l caught B7 2015 when it turned up by chance. Do they appear in evenings/Sundays on 126s or are they just rare subs?
It has been on all day. The problem is that if a trident isn't available for the 126 then only Hybrid double deckers (But they are mainly needed on the 1/59 plus we have 3 E400H's off the road) and B7RLE's are suitable for the emmisions zone in Birmingham.
PS it is very rare to get anything other than a trident on the 126 on a Sunday
Hope this helps JoNi
Quote from: Nathan on January 04, 2014, 06:52:37 PM
Quote from: JoNi on January 04, 2014, 06:37:44 PM
When travelling from Broad Street to New Street early this afternoon l caught B7 2015 when it turned up by chance. Do they appear in evenings/Sundays on 126s or are they just rare subs?
It has been on all day. The problem is that if a trident isn't available for the 126 then only Hybrid double deckers (But they are mainly needed on the 1/59 plus we have 3 E400H's off the road) and B7RLE's are suitable for the emmisions zone in Birmingham.
PS it is very rare to get anything other than a trident on the 126 on a Sunday
Hope this helps JoNi
any particular reason 3 E400Hs are off the road Nathan or is it just regular maintainance?
Ta Nathan, thought it was a 120 when it appeared in the distance. Glanced again only to see it was going to Birmingham Markets!
Two are in for MOT and one is poorley ATM (Presume its the one I saw the other day being towed back to garage)
As a result there have been no B5's on the 59 with 5510-14 covering on the 1 and filling in for tridents on the 126
Quote from: Nathan on January 04, 2014, 07:09:38 PM
Two are in for MOT and one is poorley ATM (Presume its the one I saw the other day being towed back to garage)
As a result there have been no B5's on the 59 with 5510-14 covering on the 1 and filling in for tridents on the 126
5511, 5512 and 5514 are/were all on the 59 today
Quote from: Matt on January 04, 2014, 07:42:23 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 04, 2014, 07:09:38 PM
Two are in for MOT and one is poorley ATM (Presume its the one I saw the other day being towed back to garage)
As a result there have been no B5's on the 59 with 5510-14 covering on the 1 and filling in for tridents on the 126
5511, 5512 and 5514 are/were all on the 59 today
Sorry I meant there weren't any on Thursday or Yesterday. Of course I know 5511/2/4 have been on today ;) Caught 5514 at Lunchtime and 5511 this afternoon
Quote from: Nathan on January 04, 2014, 07:09:38 PM
Two are in for MOT and one is poorley ATM (Presume its the one I saw the other day being towed back to garage)
As a result there have been no B5's on the 59 with 5510-14 covering on the 1 and filling in for tridents on the 126
5420/1 were in for MOT on Friday. 5420 is back in traffic (Seen this morning in Wolverhampton on the 1)
Quote from: Nathan on January 05, 2014, 12:12:09 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 04, 2014, 07:09:38 PM
Two are in for MOT and one is poorley ATM (Presume its the one I saw the other day being towed back to garage)
As a result there have been no B5's on the 59 with 5510-14 covering on the 1 and filling in for tridents on the 126
5420/1 were in for MOT on Friday. 5420 is back in traffic (Seen this morning in Wolverhampton on the 1)
Does buses need an MOT every year, the reason i ask is when you buy a new car, it only needs an MOT afetr three years.
Quote from: Nathan on January 05, 2014, 12:12:09 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 04, 2014, 07:09:38 PM
Two are in for MOT and one is poorley ATM (Presume its the one I saw the other day being towed back to garage)
As a result there have been no B5's on the 59 with 5510-14 covering on the 1 and filling in for tridents on the 126
5420/1 were in for MOT on Friday. 5420 is back in traffic (Seen this morning in Wolverhampton on the 1)
5421 was on the 1 yesterday I think.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 05, 2014, 01:05:58 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 05, 2014, 12:12:09 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 04, 2014, 07:09:38 PM
Two are in for MOT and one is poorley ATM (Presume its the one I saw the other day being towed back to garage)
As a result there have been no B5's on the 59 with 5510-14 covering on the 1 and filling in for tridents on the 126
5420/1 were in for MOT on Friday. 5420 is back in traffic (Seen this morning in Wolverhampton on the 1)
Does buses need an MOT every year, the reason i ask is when you buy a new car, it only needs an MOT afetr three years.
Every year from new. Company V.I. every 4weeks/month from new.
4605 has swapped front panels again (firstly it had the font panel off 4558) now it appears to have the front panel off 4541. I'm not 100% certain but I think 4558 has had its front panel back off 4605. 4541's front panel (Underneath the Windscreen) has no logo on it now either
If an MOT is every year from new surely WN's E400::::'s can't be due until the spring. The buses Nathan was referring to must have just been having a V.I.?
help if im barking up wrong tree with nxwm, but when i used to run the garage of a coach company, i used to plan the years maintenance, v.i's legally are required every 6 weeks, but i had them in 4 weekly. it was easier and gave opportunity to action repairs/servicing around them. i used to book mot slots in advance, so if a coach was sold, its replacement would take over the dates on the planner. maybe this is why the hybrids at wn are being done before they get to 12 months old
Quote from: mranon on January 05, 2014, 06:41:37 PM
help if im barking up wrong tree with nxwm, but when i used to run the garage of a coach company, i used to plan the years maintenance, v.i's legally are required every 6 weeks, but i had them in 4 weekly. it was easier and gave opportunity to action repairs/servicing around them. i used to book mot slots in advance, so if a coach was sold, its replacement would take over the dates on the planner. maybe this is why the hybrids at wn are being done before they get to 12 months old
Remember the earliest it can be presented for MOT is a month before its due date.
You can MOT a bus at any point, its just that you will lose whatever ticket you have left on it.
The Hybrids have gone in for MOT now to make it easier to plan this year.
Sorry my mistake then
you can mot at any time, but you loose whatever is left on the current ticket, except where 30 days or less is remaining. if you put it in on earliest opportunity, you can in fact have 13 months mot.
Quote from: mranon on January 05, 2014, 09:31:45 PM
you can mot at any time, but you loose whatever is left on the current ticket, except where 30 days or less is remaining. if you put it in on earliest opportunity, you can in fact have 13 months mot.
Only then if you leave it to latest opportunity the following year..
"About the test
Lorries and buses (including coaches) must be tested each year. The first test should be 12 months after the vehicle was first registered with DVLA (Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency).
Trailers must be tested 1 year after they were first sold or supplied.
The test can be done at a VOSA Goods Vehicle Testing Station (GVTS) or a privately owned Authorised Testing Facility (ATF). Both use VOSA staff and testing standards.
The annual test can be booked up to 93days ahead"
Quote from: Liverpool Street on January 05, 2014, 07:11:36 PM
Quote from: mranon on January 05, 2014, 06:41:37 PM
help if im barking up wrong tree with nxwm, but when i used to run the garage of a coach company, i used to plan the years maintenance, v.i's legally are required every 6 weeks, but i had them in 4 weekly. it was easier and gave opportunity to action repairs/servicing around them. i used to book mot slots in advance, so if a coach was sold, its replacement would take over the dates on the planner. maybe this is why the hybrids at wn are being done before they get to 12 months old
Remember the earliest it can be presented for MOT is a month before its due date.
That's not correct, that is just the earliest you can present it and keep the same anniversary date, you can present a vehicle as often as you like, It just gets a new MoT from 12 of the date of inspection. Most batches of new buses are done early to spread the datess over a period of time to even the load out.
Quote from: Tony on January 05, 2014, 10:52:48 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on January 05, 2014, 07:11:36 PM
Quote from: mranon on January 05, 2014, 06:41:37 PM
help if im barking up wrong tree with nxwm, but when i used to run the garage of a coach company, i used to plan the years maintenance, v.i's legally are required every 6 weeks, but i had them in 4 weekly. it was easier and gave opportunity to action repairs/servicing around them. i used to book mot slots in advance, so if a coach was sold, its replacement would take over the dates on the planner. maybe this is why the hybrids at wn are being done before they get to 12 months old
Remember the earliest it can be presented for MOT is a month before its due date.
That's not correct, that is just the earliest you can present it and keep the same anniversary date, you can present a vehicle as often as you like, It just gets a new MoT from 12 of the date of inspection. Most batches of new buses are done early to spread the datess over a period of time to even the load out.
Then I stand corrected! Thanks Tony, just proves you're never too old to learn something new.
4541 - 3
4563 - 1
1675 seen hamping down the M6 today on the back of a Mansfield Wrecker, with 25A on the blinds!
1681 1686 601 662 - some of todays breakdowns
Quote from: Ashley on January 10, 2014, 05:50:15 PM
1681 1686 601 662 - some of todays breakdowns
That all?? ::) ::)
1674 seen on back of mansfield truck heading out of wolves in stafford street just after 10am
WN garage are planning to withdraw the mercs with cascaded tridents from other garages. Whether the the tridents come from BC if they have new buses or another garage i'm not sure
Quote from: Nathan on January 14, 2014, 09:08:07 PM
WN garage are planning to withdraw the mercs with cascaded tridents from other garages. Whether the the tridents come from BC if they have new buses or another garage i'm not sure
I think WN could take a couple of extra B6LE should they become available. They could either go on the 11 or the 25A/C depending how popular that is.
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on January 14, 2014, 09:12:48 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 14, 2014, 09:08:07 PM
WN garage are planning to withdraw the mercs with cascaded tridents from other garages. Whether the the tridents come from BC if they have new buses or another garage i'm not sure
I think WN could take a couple
of extra B6LE should they become available. They could either go on the 11 or the 25A/C depending how popular that is.
I believe no more B6's will transfer to WN for the present time. I hear more Tridents/Spectra's will be appearing on the 25A/C alongside the current mix of Mercs,B6's and B7RLE's
Quote from: Nathan on January 14, 2014, 09:16:33 PM
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on January 14, 2014, 09:12:48 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 14, 2014, 09:08:07 PM
WN garage are planning to withdraw the mercs with cascaded tridents from other garages. Whether the the tridents come from BC if they have new buses or another garage i'm not sure
I think WN could take a couple
of extra B6LE should they become available. They could either go on the 11 or the 25A/C depending how popular that is.
I believe no more B6's will transfer to WN for the present time. I hear more Tridents/Spectra's will be appearing on the 25A/C alongside the current mix of Mercs,B6's and B7RLE's
I doubt the 25A/C will need anything bigger than a B6LE.
More deckers would be ideal for the right routes such as the 2 and 6, possibly the 4, 5 and 10, displacing B7RLE's on to other routes. If said Trident transfers happened, if they were refurbished, vehicle quality wouldn't be comprimised as nobody would really tell the vehicle age. All the same it would be nice to have our old Y reg's back at Wolves. One idea they thought of a while ago is transferring WN's Mercs to Coventry to wipe out their R and S reg's which are probably in better nick at first glance, the mechanicals condition is a whole other story though. Sorry I've started waffling
It can get quite busy on the Stafford Rd and B6's will appear on the 25 but as you know the 25/A at Present can get anything. It depends what's avaliale at the time?
The first journey in the week starts at 05:34 from Wolverhampton getting into W'ton again at 07:04 so much earlier than the 08:04 25A journey at present. This will benefit workers at the I54 buiness Park who will get a quick direct link very early in the morning
Also as I suspected the Sunday 25 will run jut To Bilston departing W'ton at 25 past the hour getting to Bilston at 23 past the hour. The return journey will depart Bilston at half past the hour getting back to Wolverhampton at 28 past the hour. This could layover then work the 27 which departs at quarter to the hour. The return 27 gets into Wolves at 20 past each hour which can then work the 25
Quote from: Ashley on January 14, 2014, 09:37:14 PM
More deckers would be ideal for the right routes such as the 2 and 6, possibly the 4, 5 and 10, displacing B7RLE's on to other routes. If said Trident transfers happened, if they were refurbished, vehicle quality wouldn't be comprimised as nobody would really tell the vehicle age. All the same it would be nice to have our old Y reg's back at Wolves. One idea they thought of a while ago is transferring WN's Mercs to Coventry to wipe out their R and S reg's which are probably in better nick at first glance, the mechanicals condition is a whole other story though. Sorry I've started waffling
I presume they would want to eliminate the mercs and it will also help with the prevention of Mercs on the 59 and B7's on the 126.
BTW the 10 can't operate anything other than B7's due to them being the only vehicle type that can activate the per ton busway
As you know plans change so you never know but as said some routes like the the 2,3,4 and routes like the 28 and 82 see overcrowding on some busy school journeys (One 82 board Mon-Fri is DD operated)
Quote from: Nathan on January 14, 2014, 09:49:04 PM
BTW the 10 can't operate anything other than B7's due to them being the only vehicle type that can activate the per ton busway
So does that mean the 62/62A is gonna be B7 operated as well? As its been extended through the bus gate
Quote from: Kevin on January 14, 2014, 10:45:22 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 14, 2014, 09:49:04 PM
BTW the 10 can't operate anything other than B7's due to them being the only vehicle type that can activate the per ton busway
So does that mean the 62/62A is gonna be B7 operated as well? As its been extended through the bus gate
Tbh i don't know how it works as Arriva have sent all sorts down that bus lane. Maybe the B6's will be fitted with transponders?
Quote from: Nathan on January 14, 2014, 10:47:58 PM
Quote from: Kevin on January 14, 2014, 10:45:22 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 14, 2014, 09:49:04 PM
BTW the 10 can't operate anything other than B7's due to them being the only vehicle type that can activate the per ton busway
So does that mean the 62/62A is gonna be B7 operated as well? As its been extended through the bus gate
Tbh i don't know how it works as Arriva have sent all sorts down that bus lane. Maybe the B6's will be fitted with transponders?
But will it be worth the expense if the B6LE are being replaced by Tridents soon?
True. I never even thought of that problem until Kevin brought it up :)
Also i can see new buses (Midibuses) coming to PL this year as certain routes such as the 62 struggle with dd's or full size single deckers. Maybe a batch of E200's will be ordered for WN and WA with some later in the year going to WB (The investment to Sandwell Buses that were mentioned? Just a quick thought i came up with
One other thing,Can the hybrids operate The Perton Busway as a 551* B5 wss reported on here some months back on the evening 5 which interworks with the 10? Do these have those Transponders that activate the bus way bolloards fitted?
i think only a few b7rles have the perton bus lane thingy. when i can get out to spot, its the same few buses always on there
Quote from: mranon on January 15, 2014, 09:30:43 AM
i think only a few b7rles have the perton bus lane thingy. when i can get out to spot, its the same few buses always on there
So only certain B7's are put onto the 5/10 on sundays then? I say that because i see many different B7's on the 10
I think most of the B7RLE's have the transponder fitted. Some B6LE's will have to be similarly equipped. Could be a small number as the 62/62A won't interwork with anything after the 26th well apart from AM and PM peak 11's
Talking of B6's, 586 broke down at Finchfield on the 62 this morning but unsure why, probably overheated again like 640
Do the bollards actually work? Seen cars going down the busway recently so perhaps not.
Do Arriva have some sort of portable actuator as there seems to be allsorts on the 10 from them, there was an orange livered Solo on it today!
Quote from: Ashley on January 15, 2014, 04:29:20 PM
I think most of the B7RLE's have the transponder fitted. Some B6LE's will have to be similarly equipped. Could be a small number as the 62/62A won't interwork with anything after the 26th well apart from AM and PM peak 11's
Talking of B6's, 586 broke down at Finchfield on the 62 this morning but unsure why, probably overheated again like 640
I presume with the 26 being withdrawn that more B6's become avaliable ast the 25A/C i believe will still be mainly merc with a couple of B6's. More B6's could shift onto 11's or 32/3's as they could manage with B6's shifting tridents on those routes onto boards of the 2/3 which get busy?
Quote from: DOC37V on January 15, 2014, 09:55:48 PM
Do the bollards actually work? Seen cars going down the busway recently so perhaps not.
Do Arriva have some sort of portable actuator as there seems to be allsorts on the 10 from them, there was an orange livered Solo on it today!
Thats strange as the 10/A/B are now 100% booked to be double deckers (More DAF ALX400's have been drafted in off the 19) so the Solo shouldn't be on there. Saying that 4851 or 4854 was on the 19 today
2003 on the 126 today
Quote from: Ashley on January 16, 2014, 01:48:09 PM
2003 on the 126 today
It appears that WN are struggling for Tridents again with more B7's creeping back onto 126's
Quote from: Nathan on January 16, 2014, 02:32:22 PM
Quote from: Ashley on January 16, 2014, 01:48:09 PM
2003 on the 126 today
It appears that WN are struggling for Tridents again with more B7's creeping back onto 126's
which makes you wonder how they could spare a Trident for PE?
4311 about to depart towards Bushbury Hill from Wolverhampton.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 16, 2014, 03:17:10 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 16, 2014, 02:32:22 PM
Quote from: Ashley on January 16, 2014, 01:48:09 PM
2003 on the 126 today
It appears that WN are struggling for Tridents again with more B7's creeping back onto 126's
which makes you wonder how they could spare a Trident for PE?
Its not that they really struggle for tridents,its just they allocate some to 11's,32/3,Extra Tridents on the 82,And sometimes on the 27 (27A is Trident operated but the 27 isn't) so single deckers are then allocated to the 59,126,255 etc.
2014 on the 255 may have replaced 4311 which was broken down in Stand L of W'ton Station just before 11 (now on the 2)
Quote from: Nathan on January 16, 2014, 02:32:22 PM
Quote from: Ashley on January 16, 2014, 01:48:09 PM
2003 on the 126 today
It appears that WN are struggling for Tridents again with more B7's creeping back onto 126's
Out of 79 tridents there are only 3 VOR which are in the paintshop
Quote from: BN on January 16, 2014, 05:12:30 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 16, 2014, 02:32:22 PM
Quote from: Ashley on January 16, 2014, 01:48:09 PM
2003 on the 126 today
It appears that WN are struggling for Tridents again with more B7's creeping back onto 126's
Out of 79 tridents there are only 3 VOR which are in the paintshop
Which 3 are in the paintshop? 4310,4575 and would i be right in saying 4312 has transfered to PL and you put it in for repaint?
Recent WN garage News
4559 will be back in service tommorow. 4312 is now back at its original home and may also be out tommorow
4310 and 4575 are the only buses I know are in the paintshop from Park Lane currently unless 4579 has finally gone in?
4544 and 4545 have both had new engine fitted. Both Standard Euro 3 replacements
Also I noticed that for some time 2070 has had its CCTV TV screen missing and I have been trying to work out where it had gone. It turns out it was "stolen!". The CCTV moniter will be replaced at some point
Quote from: Nathan on January 17, 2014, 10:21:02 PM
Recent WN garage News
4559 will be back in service tommorow. 4312 is now back at its original home and may also be out tommorow
4310 and 4575 are the only buses I know are in the paintshop from Park Lane currently unless 4579 has finally gone in?
4544 and 4545 have both had new engine fitted. Both Standard Euro 3 replacements
Everytime I'm in Birmingham next week Nath I'll keep an eye out for 4579 :)
I will be on the lookout for 4579 over the weekend too :) Also as I said 4559 will be out on its first day fresh from repaint tommorow and 4312 may also come out to play after coming back to WN from YW so you may see those on the 126 over the weekend :)
Edit: On a different note Park Lane Garage tested a B7RLE round the new 62/A route last Saturday to see how it could cope round the route so may answer the question people have been asking about how the 62A could get up the busway in Perton. I can't be sure at present but B7's may well become the allocation of the 62 and 62A so the 62A can get up the bus way. 2067 once made it onto the 62 and it got round there so I can't see a problem.
Also Rob I have been told 4579 is now in for repaint/refurb so its the end of the TWM circle livery
Also as said 4559 will be out today and maybe 4312.
there was 2 junctions making it awkward to use anything other than solos 1, the left turn out of hordern rd into aldersley road when they had solos - this was changed when the b6 appeared. the next one is the crossroads at the top of the holloway/school road. it is a very tight turn whether it be left or right
Quote from: Nathan on January 17, 2014, 10:31:29 PM
I will be on the lookout for 4579 over the weekend too :) Also as I said 4559 will be out on its first day fresh from repaint tommorow and 4312 may also come out to play after coming back to WN from YW so you may see those on the 126 over the weekend :)
Edit: On a different note Park Lane Garage tested a B7RLE round the new 62/A route last Saturday to see how it could cope round the route so may answer the question people have been asking about how the 62A could get up the busway in Perton. I can't be sure at present but B7's may well become the allocation of the 62 and 62A so the 62A can get up the bus way. 2067 once made it onto the 62 and it got round there so I can't see a problem.
Also Rob I have been told 4579 is now in for repaint/refurb so its the end of the TWM circle livery
Also as said 4559 will be out today and maybe 4312.
The problem is even a Solo could be trouble at the Wood Road/School Road junction especially if there is queuing traffic that don't understand the space a bus needs to manouvre :P Yes there are other tight corners on routes where B7's are used for example on the 81 from Merry Hill the left turn onto Church Road, Netherton but also I guess due to low/variable patronage on the 62 another reason for using smaller buses. I have been told today (from a reliable source (if such a thing exists)) that the 62 will still be B6 operated
Although to bear in mind much info received often changes is exaggerated or is simply a decoy from the reality. Either way we will all know on the 26th Jan what's what ;D
Well unless the B6's are fitted with transponders then B7s will be the only type of bus able to get through the per ton Bus Lane. As I said last Saturday they were taking a B7RLE round the rout to test if they are suitable.
I saw 2068 parked on Pipers Row about 09:40 filled with drivers. I was thinking route training for the changes next Sunday?
Quote from: Nathan on January 19, 2014, 10:15:27 AM
Well unless the B6's are fitted with transponders then B7s will be the only type of bus able to get through the per ton Bus Lane. As I said last Saturday they were taking a B7RLE round the rout to test if they are suitable.
I saw 2068 parked on Pipers Row about 09:40 filled with drivers. I was thinking route training for the changes next Sunday?
Indeed it was and as none of the B6 have transponders then obviously a B7 has been used for route training round Perton. It does not mean B7's will be used on the new route however. I have been told it will be B6 operated
Once again, I am lost which Wolverhampton Tridents are left in TWM livery ::) A lot have been coming and going the last few months, so I have lost track of them all
Am I right in saying that
4312, 4555, 4557, 4558, 4560, 4561, 4562, 4564, 4567, 4569-73, 4587-90, 4592 and 4594-6 are still in old livery (all of these are from my fleetlist, so some may be done that I don't know of)
I know that
4310, 4559, 4575, 4579 are either nearly done or completed very recently
Quote from: John on January 19, 2014, 04:29:17 PM
Once again, I am lost which Wolverhampton Tridents are left in TWM livery ::) A lot have been coming and going the last few months, so I have lost track of them all
Am I right in saying that
4312, 4555, 4557, 4558, 4560, 4561, 4562, 4564, 4567, 4569-73, 4587-90, 4592 and 4594-6 are still in old livery (all of these are from my fleetlist, so some may be done that I don't know of)
I know that
4310, 4559, 4575, 4579 are either nearly done or completed very recently
John,
I agree with the above list, except 4567 has already been done
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4567.html
Quote from: Winston on January 19, 2014, 04:34:37 PM
Quote from: John on January 19, 2014, 04:29:17 PM
Once again, I am lost which Wolverhampton Tridents are left in TWM livery ::) A lot have been coming and going the last few months, so I have lost track of them all
Am I right in saying that
4312, 4555, 4557, 4558, 4560, 4561, 4562, 4564, 4567, 4569-73, 4587-90, 4592 and 4594-6 are still in old livery (all of these are from my fleetlist, so some may be done that I don't know of)
I know that
4310, 4559, 4575, 4579 are either nearly done or completed very recently
John,
I agree with the above list, except 4567 has already been done
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4567.html
Great, thanks Winston :D
Think I've found a solution to the 62A in Perton... Have it wait outside til a 10 comes then sneak in behind it
(was a joke...)
Quote from: John on January 19, 2014, 04:29:17 PM
Once again, I am lost which Wolverhampton Tridents are left in TWM livery ::) A lot have been coming and going the last few months, so I have lost track of them all
Am I right in saying that
4312, 4555, 4557, 4558, 4560, 4561, 4562, 4564, 4567, 4569-73, 4587-90, 4592 and 4594-6 are still in old livery (all of these are from my fleetlist, so some may be done that I don't know of)
I know that
4310, 4559, 4575, 4579 are either nearly done or completed very recently
4559 should have been back in service yesterday and 4575/79 should be a while yet. 4310 will be back soon.
Apart from 4567 which is in NX livery (Bright shade of red and black dot moquette). Apart from that yes all the buses you mentioned are still in TWM livery :)
4006, That would mean if the 62/A is still B6 operated from 26th Jan then transponders will have to be fitted to some B6's else the 62A will not be able to extend to Perton
John, 4567 was refurbished during 2013
Nathan, B7RLE's will definately not be allocated to 62/62A. Drivers think they're too big. The Wood Road/School Road turning is a nightmare for anything bigger than a car. Plus, the patronage is too low to warrant a full size single decker. B6's will have transponders fitted and that's not a bad thing but that's my own view plus anybody with sense
Quote from: Ashley on January 19, 2014, 08:50:16 PM
John, 4567 was refurbished during 2013
Nathan, B7RLE's will definately not be allocated to 62/62A. Drivers think they're too big. The Wood Road/School Road turning is a nightmare for anything bigger than a car. Plus, the patronage is too low to warrant a full size single decker. B6's will have transponders fitted and that's not a bad thing but that's my own view plus anybody with sense
Yes I already knew that since the other day :) it appears B7's won't be allocated so surely Transponders must be fitted to some B6's else the 62A can't get through to Perton. I did wonder about the tight turnings on the 62A as you say B6's struggle round those corners. I didn't think it seemed that likle for B7's to be put on the route as you said tight corners and low patronage so certainly the best thing to do is to fit transponders to the B6's
PS I would definetley ride a B6 any day over a B7RLE ;)
Forgot to say seen 4559 on 126 about 4:3 at castle gate
Quote from: nxwm4709 on January 23, 2014, 08:51:47 PM
Forgot to say seen 4559 on 126 about 4:3 at castle gate
If you meant you saw it at 4:30 (Was 4:3 a typo error) then it was not possible to be on the 126 at that time as i was on it at 16:30 on the 59 and it stayed out till end of running board at 19:25 (it has been out since 5AM on the 59). If you saw it after 8PM then it would have been possible that it switched to a 126
Quote from: Nathan on January 23, 2014, 09:39:58 PM
Quote from: nxwm4709 on January 23, 2014, 08:51:47 PM
Forgot to say seen 4559 on 126 about 4:3 at castle gate
If you meant you saw it at 4:30 (Was 4:3 a typo error) then it was not possible to be on the 126 at that time as i was on it at 16:30 on the 59 and it stayed out till end of running board at 19:25 (it has been out since 5AM on the 59). If you saw it after 8PM then it would have been possible that it switched to a 126
could he have meant 14:30?
4559 has been on the 59 all day though Stu. I saw it at 08:15 this morning firstly (Would have worked the first 59 of the day at 5AM from Ashmore Park as it was board 59/01) )then it has passed my school on the 59 throughout the day then I saw it work its last trip from Ash more Park Into Wolverhampton (Dead back To garage from Wolverhampton at 19:27 I think)
On another note I have noticed the new banners for the £4 daysaver on the side of most of WN's B7's. Have these been applied to Omnilinks or AG,BC,PN B7's yet?
Yesterday
Quote from: nxwm4709 on January 23, 2014, 09:51:48 PM
Yesterday
Oh ok :) It was just you never mentioned whether you saw it yesterday or today ;) I did think it HD already been in service before today because there was a fair bit of mud/dirt covering it today already. The back is virtually spotless though
Quote from: Nathan on January 23, 2014, 09:46:19 PM
4559 has been on the 59 all day though Stu. I saw it at 08:15 this morning firstly (Would have worked the first 59 of the day at 5AM from Ashmore Park as it was board 59/01) )then it has passed my school on the 59 throughout the day then I saw it work its last trip from Ash more Park Into Wolverhampton (Dead back To garage from Wolverhampton at 19:27 I think)
On another note I have noticed the new banners for the £4 daysaver on the side of most of WN's B7's. Have these been applied to Omnilinks or AG,BC,PN B7's yet?
Most if not all of AG's Omnilinks have got the new £4 Daysaver banner I think the B7's will follow shortly as 2107 has had its old £3.90 Daysaver banners removed I'll have to get back to you about BC's B7's :)
Surely 2107 should have had its £3.90 day saver banner removed at the beginning of December with the rest of them?
Quote from: 4006 on November 29, 2013, 01:29:01 AM
My Version of it what I've heard but still speculation:
62/62A will be withdrawn (Probably end up with Arriva or Diamond)
The 26 will be withdrawn but the 25/26 will become 1 route and run as a 25C (Clockwise) and 25A (Anticlockwise) so they will run in a circle one one way the other the other. One will run a 25 as it is now although extended into the i54 (which is due to open in January) then from Bilston it will continue on the 26 route to Wton still as a 25. Obviously the other way round will run a 26 to Bilston (As the new 25) then from Bilston on its own 25 route via i54. I also overheard that the 6 will progress further into the i54 also and be re-timed
Wednesfield rota and Cannock road rota to be combined i.e 11,25A,25C,28,32,33,79 will become 1 rota so there could be many boards & interworking routes if this happens. This is only what I've heard so don't quote me but I also wonder as the current 25/27 interwork on evenings & Sundays how the 27 will be effected
A driver was telling me he went into the garage on one Sunday morning some weeks to learn the routes on other rotas due to the Wednesfield and Cannock Road rotas joining up to be tolditisn't happening any longer!
Quote from: Nathan on January 23, 2014, 11:20:16 PM
Quote from: 4006 on November 29, 2013, 01:29:01 AM
My Version of it what I've heard but still speculation:
62/62A will be withdrawn (Probably end up with Arriva or Diamond)
The 26 will be withdrawn but the 25/26 will become 1 route and run as a 25C (Clockwise) and 25A (Anticlockwise) so they will run in a circle one one way the other the other. One will run a 25 as it is now although extended into the i54 (which is due to open in January) then from Bilston it will continue on the 26 route to Wton still as a 25. Obviously the other way round will run a 26 to Bilston (As the new 25) then from Bilston on its own 25 route via i54. I also overheard that the 6 will progress further into the i54 also and be re-timed
Wednesfield rota and Cannock road rota to be combined i.e 11,25A,25C,28,32,33,79 will become 1 rota so there could be many boards & interworking routes if this happens. This is only what I've heard so don't quote me but I also wonder as the current 25/27 interwork on evenings & Sundays how the 27 will be effected
A driver was telling me he went into the garage on one Sunday morning some weeks to learn the routes on other rotas due to the Wednesfield and Cannock Road rotas joining up to be tolditisn't happening any longer!
Correct the rota's aren't joining now and to answer my own question the new 25 service will just run to Bilston Via Willenhall (still as a 25A/C) on the nights still interworking with the 27
How come the evening & Sunday 25 aren't called 25E as they are not running the full circular route?
Quote from: Westy on January 24, 2014, 06:45:42 AM
How come the evening & Sunday 25 aren't called 25E as they are not running the full circular route?
I would imagine it would have display 25E to Bilston Via... or 25-BILSTON in big lettering (The two 89 journeys that terminate in Bloxwich from Wolverhampton display 'bloxwich'
Quote from: Nathan on January 24, 2014, 07:58:13 AM
Quote from: Westy on January 24, 2014, 06:45:42 AM
How come the evening & Sunday 25 aren't called 25E as they are not running the full circular route?
I would imagine it would have display 25E to Bilston Via... or 25-BILSTON in big lettering (The two 89 journeys that terminate in Bloxwich from Wolverhampton display 'bloxwich'
So shouldn't the evening service be a 25AE or a 25CE? ;)
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 24, 2014, 03:09:35 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 24, 2014, 07:58:13 AM
Quote from: Westy on January 24, 2014, 06:45:42 AM
How come the evening & Sunday 25 aren't called 25E as they are not running the full circular route?
I would imagine it would have display 25E to Bilston Via... or 25-BILSTON in big lettering (The two 89 journeys that terminate in Bloxwich from Wolverhampton display 'bloxwich'
So shouldn't the evening service be a 25AE or a 25CE? ;)
Could always number it 25ACE :-)
Any idea which Hybrid Enviro 400 had its offside rear panel clipped in an accident whilst operating the 1 into Wolverhampton this morning? Looked like someone overtaking the bus hit an on-coming car and clipped the back of the bus. Hope no one was injured.
Quote from: TinnedPeaches on January 24, 2014, 05:46:18 PM
Any idea which Hybrid Enviro 400 had its offside rear panel clipped in an accident whilst operating the 1 into Wolverhampton this morning? Looked like someone overtaking the bus hit an on-coming car and clipped the back of the bus. Hope no one was injured.
Which Road did this take place on? May explain 4607 being on the 1 this afternoon then
Quote from: Nathan on January 24, 2014, 06:09:41 PM
Quote from: TinnedPeaches on January 24, 2014, 05:46:18 PM
Any idea which Hybrid Enviro 400 had its offside rear panel clipped in an accident whilst operating the 1 into Wolverhampton this morning? Looked like someone overtaking the bus hit an on-coming car and clipped the back of the bus. Hope no one was injured.
Which Road did this take place on? May explain 4607 being on the 1 this afternoon then
Wolverhampton road east, the bus had been moved by time i went past but there was a fiat punto with front & rear end damage just past the bus shelter.
Looking at the timetables in Wednesfield it appears as said the 25A/C will operate to Bilston only but still with the 25A/C numbers
Quote from: TinnedPeaches on January 24, 2014, 05:46:18 PM
Any idea which Hybrid Enviro 400 had its offside rear panel clipped in an accident whilst operating the 1 into Wolverhampton this morning? Looked like someone overtaking the bus hit an on-coming car and clipped the back of the bus. Hope no one was injured.
Don't know the fleet number but its back on the road
Quote from: Nathan on January 24, 2014, 10:08:08 PM
Quote from: TinnedPeaches on January 24, 2014, 05:46:18 PM
Any idea which Hybrid Enviro 400 had its offside rear panel clipped in an accident whilst operating the 1 into Wolverhampton this morning? Looked like someone overtaking the bus hit an on-coming car and clipped the back of the bus. Hope no one was injured.
Don't know the fleet number but its back on the road
That was a quick fix. Well done to NX.
May have not required much repairs as the car only clipped the bus. 5514 had a minor collision with a car last year and after a chckover at garage was back on road again within an hour or 2
Quote from: Nathan on January 24, 2014, 10:55:12 PM
May have not required much repairs as the car only clipped the bus. 5514 had a minor collision with a car last year and after a chckover at garage was back on road again within an hour or 2
I think it was 5417 that was seen in the garage with a rear o/s corner panel missing at approx 8pm on Friday (Not 100% it was 5417 or could have even been a different incident)
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 24, 2014, 03:09:35 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 24, 2014, 07:58:13 AM
Quote from: Westy on January 24, 2014, 06:45:42 AM
How come the evening & Sunday 25 aren't called 25E as they are not running the full circular route?
I would imagine it would have display 25E to Bilston Via... or 25-BILSTON in big lettering (The two 89 journeys that terminate in Bloxwich from Wolverhampton display 'bloxwich'
So shouldn't the evening service be a 25AE or a 25CE? ;)
I think this is all very confusing but to clarify the 25A/C will in effect do an E to Bilston on the evenings the long way round (that is to say it will not run the old 26 part of the route)
Mon - Fri 1st one from WN will be 17.44, from Bilston 19.30. The confusion will be whether it is an A,C or E or even AE CE which way it will be going, obviously when passengers get used to it it will be easier, but for a casual user I can foresee a lot of confusion
As far as I know there are no E's on the 26 side so if it's an E its going through Wednesfield and Willenhall. If this is displayed on the blinds it will be easier, but for the lazy drivers who can't be bothered and just display a 25A or 25E passengers will not know where it is going, or which way...my this is gonna be fun :P
Also interesting there are some very early E's to and from the i54 and the 27 timing changes mean the last E to Gornal from Wolverhampton is 30mins earlier!! Drink quicker lads or get out earlier...P.S Domino & Darts matches will commence 30 mins early from 26.01.14 as a result of adjusted bus times ;D ;D ;D
The first full journey from Wolverhampton (Via I54,Wednesfield and Willenhall) is also much earlier now at 05:34 (Current 25 from Wolves is 08:04)
Also just to confirm 5417 is at Park Lane with slight Rear o/s Damage/panel removed can't be sure if it's been involved in an accident though
No unbranded B5's on the 59 today. 5511/2/3 have been on the 1 (There is usually 1 unbranded B5 at the most on Saturday 1's) and 5514 was on the 126
Nathan, I caught 5514 in Broad Street and managed to get a pic by New Street Signalbox at 15:50 after the hailstorm, couldn't see the board number.
Quote from: JoNi on January 25, 2014, 10:52:26 PM
Nathan, I caught 5514 in Broad Street and managed to get a pic by New Street Signalbox
http://www.flickr.com/photos/92409298@N06/12141317573/
I caught it on the 11:00 126 from Wolverhampton. I would imagine the B5's will be back on 59's tommorow with it being a Sunday
Quote from: Ashley on January 26, 2014, 10:23:32 AM
They're only green machines. I don't see what's so important about where they are or aren't. Althought if it matters 5510 was on the 1 last night
That's your opinion though. We are all allowed to have our own views and opinions so you may not like 'green machines but I do take an interest in them ;) Btw Ash, 2028 is today's 62 however I have a feeling B7's will be allocated on a Sunday. Shame as I liked riding B6's on the Sunday 62.
Also the 255/6 has reverted back to B7RLE operation on a Sunday. I caught 2025 on the new 25C this morning.
It appears the 25/7 interworking hasn't changed since today's changes. Buses display 25C-Bilston Via Wednesfield/Willenhall/I54 Site and 25A-Wolverhampton Via Willenhall.... on a Sunday
In the week they alternate between 25C Wolverhampton Circular and Wolverhampton Via..... And the same with the 25A.
One driver displayed the Wolverhampton loop display today although it only does the 25 route to Blston on Sundays.
EDIT: 4569 has appeared to have replaced a B5 on the 59 tonight
Quote from: Nathan on January 26, 2014, 12:29:09 PM
Quote from: Ashley on January 26, 2014, 10:23:32 AM
They're only green machines. I don't see what's so important about where they are or aren't. Althought if it matters 5510 was on the 1 last night
That's your opinion though. We are all allowed to have our own views and opinions so you may not like 'green machines but I do take an interest in them ;) Btw Ash, 2028 is today's 62 however I have a feeling B7's will be allocated on a Sunday. Shame as I liked riding B6's on the Sunday 62.
Also the 255/6 has reverted back to B7RLE operation on a Sunday. I caught 2025 on the new 25C this morning.
Not Quite.... 5517 on 256 this evening ;)
Two Tridents on WN3 today
4562 on the 0940 ex Castlecroft
45xx on the usual 1010 ex Castlecroft
62 and 62A shouldn't be anything other than B6LE's. The turn on Gorsebrook Road is very tight
Quote from: Ashley on January 27, 2014, 02:59:19 PM
62 and 62A shouldn't be anything other than B6LE's. The turn on Gorsebrook Road is very tight
And 2028 just about made it round
Quote from: Ashley on January 27, 2014, 02:59:19 PM
62 and 62A shouldn't be anything other than B6LE's. The turn on Gorsebrook Road is very tight
Didn't B7's do it when it was the 25? I can't think of a tight turn on Gorsebrook Rd on the 62?
the 25 came in from stafford rd island, round the sharp left hand bend, then out at the end with evans st mini island. the 62/a will come in from stafford rd, but turn a sharp right on the bend into dunstall lane, taking 1st left into gatis street. this is tight, especially the way folk park around there. it will obviously be a sharp left turn on the way to wolves on return journey too.
Quote from: mranon on January 28, 2014, 09:55:20 AM
the 25 came in from stafford rd island, round the sharp left hand bend, then out at the end with evans st mini island. the 62/a will come in from stafford rd, but turn a sharp right on the bend into dunstall lane, taking 1st left into gatis street. this is tight, especially the way folk park around there. it will obviously be a sharp left turn on the way to wolves on return journey too.
Yes that turn posed a big problem for 2028 on Sunday. It just about got round the turn into Dunstall Lane
4590 is on the 25A/C today (First trident on there since the changes)
Quote from: mranon on January 28, 2014, 09:55:20 AM
the 25 came in from stafford rd island, round the sharp left hand bend, then out at the end with evans st mini island. the 62/a will come in from stafford rd, but turn a sharp right on the bend into dunstall lane, taking 1st left into gatis street. this is tight, especially the way folk park around there. it will obviously be a sharp left turn on the way to wolves on return journey too.
Doesn't seam that tight? surely a worse turn is on the new 25C turning from Long Knowle Lane onto Lower Prestwood Road joining the current 28 route. Now that is tight :o
Quote from: 4006 on January 29, 2014, 01:36:25 AM
Quote from: mranon on January 28, 2014, 09:55:20 AM
the 25 came in from stafford rd island, round the sharp left hand bend, then out at the end with evans st mini island. the 62/a will come in from stafford rd, but turn a sharp right on the bend into dunstall lane, taking 1st left into gatis street. this is tight, especially the way folk park around there. it will obviously be a sharp left turn on the way to wolves on return journey too.
Doesn't seam that tight? surely a worse turn is on the new 25C turning from Long Knowle Lane onto Lower Prestwood Road joining the current 28 route. Now that is tight :o
Mercs used to do the turn into Prestwood road all of the time when it was the 525
A trident on the 25A/C today
508 554 555 586 598 are the only B6LE's with transponders so only any three of these will operate the 62/62A. Three words... Could be worse :P
if i'm correct 598 was on the 82 today so god knows what happened on the 62/A (apologies if there are only a couple of running boards not very familier with the 62)
The 62/62A only needs 3 of those 5 Dom so 2 can go elsewhere or be on standby for a breakdown. Todays trio were 508 555 and 586 with 598 on the 82 and 554 on the 11
Quote from: NXDom on January 29, 2014, 08:11:03 PM
if i'm correct 598 was on the 82 today so god knows what happened on the 62/A (apologies if there are only a couple of running boards not very familier with the 62)
Nein. 598 was on 28 today, seen it couple of times - at New Invention and Wolverhampton Bus Station.
Quote from: Ashley on January 29, 2014, 08:12:36 PM
The 62/62A only needs 3 of those 5 Dom so 2 can go elsewhere or be on standby for a breakdown. Todays trio were 508 555 and 586 with 598 on the 82 and 554 on the 11.
Huh? I saw 554 on 32 with 11 at the back. 508 was on the 11, iirc, seeing it in the bus station later around 17:00.
Isn't 508 a pensnett b6le
Quote from: Christopher on January 29, 2014, 09:00:29 PM
Isn't 508 a pensnett b6le?
Was. It transferred to Wolverhampton in July 2013.
So did it come from pensnett to Wolverhampton
Yes, that's what I said.
Quote from: P419 EJW on January 29, 2014, 08:13:27 PM
Quote from: NXDom on January 29, 2014, 08:11:03 PM
if i'm correct 598 was on the 82 today so god knows what happened on the 62/A (apologies if there are only a couple of running boards not very familier with the 62)
Nein. 598 was on 28 today, seen it couple of times - at New Invention and Wolverhampton Bus Station.
I stand corrected only though i saw a 5** on the 82.
Has there recently been any double dockers spectras or any unusual workings on the 82
tridents and spectras are 'common' on the 82 board /05 i think it is is a decker board
What are boards ? Workings ? Or?
the timetables the drivers follow are on running boards
Quote from: Christopher on January 29, 2014, 09:38:34 PM
What are boards ? Workings ? Or?
Each day a bus is allocated a running board, it indicates what route(s) it will be running on and the times of the journeys.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 29, 2014, 09:41:38 PM
Quote from: Christopher on January 29, 2014, 09:38:34 PM
What are boards ? Workings ? Or?
Each day a bus is allocated a running board, it indicates what route(s) it will be running on and the times of the journeys.
It also states the time it leaves depot, time it should arrive back at depot, the route it should take to/from depot, journey numbers (used when signing on), any contract codes for particular journeys and any vehicle allocation restrictions
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 29, 2014, 09:41:38 PM
Quote from: Christopher on January 29, 2014, 09:38:34 PM
What are boards ? Workings ? Or?
Each day a bus is allocated a running board, it indicates what route(s) it will be running on and the times of the journeys.
and some boards can be peak boards so they only operate in mornings or evenings, the 59 is one i believe?
P419EJW, you would have seen 508 on the 11 this afternoon as some journeys on the 11 in the afternoon are on 62 boards.
Christopher, Tridents 4193-4202 and 4135 transfered to Pensnett garage June/July 2013 cascading 508,554,555 and 581 to Wolverhampton (Now withdrawn).
Quote from: NXDom on January 29, 2014, 09:48:16 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 29, 2014, 09:41:38 PM
Quote from: Christopher on January 29, 2014, 09:38:34 PM
What are boards ? Workings ? Or?
Each day a bus is allocated a running board, it indicates what route(s) it will be running on and the times of the journeys.
and some boards can be peak boards so they only operate in mornings or evenings, the 59 is one i believe?
A lot of routes have extra peak boards on. Yes the 59 is one of them. Two boards in a morning One is 59/09) and the afternoon peak bus departs garage around 15:10 (59/14)
Has 5514 recently been on the 59 0r 529
Quote from: Christopher on January 29, 2014, 10:26:14 PM
Has 5514 recently been on the 59 0r 529
5514 was on the 59 on Sunday but has been on the 1 this week mainly. 5514 I think has operated the 529 at some point and it was on the 126 on Saturday :)
So is the 5514 branded for the 1
Quote from: Christopher on January 29, 2014, 10:34:10 PM
So is the 5514 branded for the 1
5510-14 are unbranded and 5515-18 are branded for the 1.
Thanks nath
Quote from: Christopher on January 29, 2014, 10:37:02 PM
Thanks nath
Also all of the E400H's we have (5410-21) are all branded for the 1 although they do like to wonder off onto other routes
So why don't they get i branded for some and un brand some
Quote from: Christopher on January 29, 2014, 10:39:52 PM
So why don't they get i branded for some and un brand some
Because they belong on the 1 and thats where they're staying :P
Ok Andrew if your word is final then it will be final
The Hybrids were originally bought for WN number 1 service, and should be used primarily on the 1 with any spares on the 59, although it hasn't always worked out that way.
I now wn new idea 59BRANDING
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 29, 2014, 10:46:15 PM
The Hybrids were originally bought for WN number 1 service, and should be used primarily on the 1 with any spares on the 59, although it hasn't always worked out that way.
This week most of the unbranded B5's have been working the 1 with only 1-2 on the 59 (At least 8-9 Tridents Mon and yesterday).
Quote from: Christopher on January 29, 2014, 10:47:52 PM
I now wn new idea 59BRANDING
Wouldn't work as it has 3 different types of bus (Tridents are the main allocation now with Spectra's and B5's putting in daily appearances).
Quote from: Nathan on January 30, 2014, 05:27:18 PM
A couple of changes to WN's allocations:
WN 59 is now mainly trident operated in the week with at least 8 on average on there with 2-3 B5's and 2-3 Spectra's.
Sunday 62's appear to be operated by a B7RLE instead of a B6
Maybe a WN driver can tell me...
The 59 allocation has no defined bus? Or is it 'Only Deckers'? (We've already drawn similarities with the BC24)
Yes the 59 is allocated all double decker type at PL but apart fom E400H's but up to recently the 59 had mostly Spectra's on there with 6-7 out of the 12 all day boards however that has appeared to change since last week with only 1-3 Spectra's appearing. There always seems to be a set amount of each type.
So it was usually 6-7 Spectra's,2-4 Tridents and 2-3 B5's
Quote from: Nathan on January 30, 2014, 06:37:19 PM
Yes the 59 is allocated all double decker type at PL but apart fom E400H's but up to recently the 59 had mostly Spectra's on there with 6-7 out of the 12 all day boards however that has appeared to change since last week with only 1-3 Spectra's appearing. There always seems to be a set amount of each type.
So it was usually 6-7 Spectra's,2-4 Tridents and 2-3 B5's
There was a b7rle on there this afternoon didn't see the fleet number.
where are the hybrids? seen at least 2 tridents on the 1, and with the unbranded ones on the 1, are some off the road?
Quote from: pb2012 on January 30, 2014, 06:52:28 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 30, 2014, 06:37:19 PM
Yes the 59 is allocated all double decker type at PL but apart fom E400H's but up to recently the 59 had mostly Spectra's on there with 6-7 out of the 12 all day boards however that has appeared to change since last week with only 1-3 Spectra's appearing. There always seems to be a set amount of each type.
So it was usually 6-7 Spectra's,2-4 Tridents and 2-3 B5's
There was a b7rle on there this afternoon didn't see the fleet number.
2002 it was. But that was on peak board 59/14 which because it leaves garage at 15:10 has anything spare.
Quote from: Nathan on January 30, 2014, 06:58:23 PM
Quote from: pb2012 on January 30, 2014, 06:52:28 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 30, 2014, 06:37:19 PM
Yes the 59 is allocated all double decker type at PL but apart fom E400H's but up to recently the 59 had mostly Spectra's on there with 6-7 out of the 12 all day boards however that has appeared to change since last week with only 1-3 Spectra's appearing. There always seems to be a set amount of each type.
So it was usually 6-7 Spectra's,2-4 Tridents and 2-3 B5's
There was a b7rle on there this afternoon didn't see the fleet number.
2002 it was. But that was on peak board 59/14 which because it leaves garage at 15:10 has anything spare.
Although that is the general con census, it is still supposed to be allocated a decker. But to maintain 'service-Out', any bus is allocated. [As like the recent appearance of Hybrids on the Bristol]... that being the truth from information gained from earlier postings from you lot ;)
Re WN62 sunday allocation. Have you had definate information to say a B7RLE will be on there every sunday or is this a referral back to last sundays one off appearance of 2028. Because to me, it's wasted capacity and too big to make the turn off Gorsebrook Avenue onto Carter Road.
Quote from: Ashley on January 30, 2014, 10:33:52 PM
Re WN62 sunday allocation. Have you had definate information to say a B7RLE will be on there every sunday or is this a referral back to last sundays one off appearance of 2028. Because to me, it's wasted capacity and too big to make the turn off Gorsebrook Avenue onto Carter Road.
Better though surely to have an over capacity B7RLE than a clapped Out B6 allocated (that probably actually costs more to run than a B7 in any case)
There are now two Spectra's parked side by side in Miller Street.
Has 4003 now joined 4007 there, or is it another one recently withdrawn?
Quote from: John on January 31, 2014, 01:40:29 PM
There are now two Spectra's parked side by side in Miller Street.
Has 4003 now joined 4007 there, or is it another one recently withdrawn?
Yes John
Quote from: Winston on January 31, 2014, 01:41:30 PM
Quote from: John on January 31, 2014, 01:40:29 PM
There are now two Spectra's parked side by side in Miller Street.
Has 4003 now joined 4007 there, or is it another one recently withdrawn?
Yes John
Thanks Winston ;) I just noticed it yesterday afternoon while heading into town
Quote from: John on January 19, 2014, 04:29:17 PM
Once again, I am lost which Wolverhampton Tridents are left in TWM livery ::) A lot have been coming and going the last few months, so I have lost track of them all
Am I right in saying that
4312, 4555, 4557, 4558, 4560, 4561, 4562, 4564, 4567, 4569-73, 4587-90, 4592 and 4594-6 are still in old livery (all of these are from my fleetlist, so some may be done that I don't know of)
I know that
4310, 4559, 4575, 4579 are either nearly done or completed very recently
4310 is complete and back in service on the 59 this evening (It would have gone out of service now).4559 is back in service too
4310 is back out again on the 59 replacing defective 4583.4576 is on WN25A/C today.
2062 has lost its blue mega rear advert
Quote from: Nathan on February 01, 2014, 02:30:30 PM
4310 is back out again on the 59 replacing defective 4583.4576 is on WN25A/C today.
2062 has lost its blue mega rear advert
2017 has also lost its blue mega rear ad,Seen today on the 25A/C/27
It appears last weeks appearance of 2028 on the 62 was a one off rare working,586 is today's bus on the 62
Quote from: Nathan on February 02, 2014, 12:49:25 PM
Quote from: Nathan on February 01, 2014, 02:30:30 PM
4310 is back out again on the 59 replacing defective 4583.4576 is on WN25A/C today.
2062 has lost its blue mega rear advert
2017 has also lost its blue mega rear ad,Seen today on the 25A/C/27
It appears last weeks appearance of 2028 on the 62 was a one off rare working,586 is today's bus on the 62
Unless 586 turns out to be a "rare" working.
This is only the second Sunday. It's too early to define what's "rare" and what isn't.
Has route 581 now the 81 always been a WN route or did it transfer over from PE ?
Quote from: Nathan4775 on February 03, 2014, 12:27:02 AM
Has route 581 now the 81 always been a WN route or did it transfer over from PE ?
81 is a WN route now. At first, WN did serve 581 then Pensnett took over serving 581 for some time, 581 used to interwork with 541 & 541A (also were Pensnett routes). I only remember this because PE B6s used to operate those 3 routes. Maybe someone else could contribute with more (and reliable) information.
Quote from: P419 EJW on February 03, 2014, 12:51:55 AM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on February 03, 2014, 12:27:02 AM
Has route 581 now the 81 always been a WN route or did it transfer over from PE ?
81 is a WN route now. At first, WN did serve 581 then Pensnett took over serving 581 for some time, 581 used to interwork with 541 & 541A (also were Pensnett routes). I only remember this because PE B6s used to operate those 3 routes. Maybe someone else could contribute with more (and reliable) information.
All correct I believe :) It did then transfer back to WN when the 581/2/3 services operated before the review and the 541/A became the 527/A
Quote from: P419 EJW on February 03, 2014, 12:51:55 AM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on February 03, 2014, 12:27:02 AM
Has route 581 now the 81 always been a WN route or did it transfer over from PE ?
81 is a WN route now. At first, WN did serve 581 then Pensnett took over serving 581 for some time, 581 used to interwork with 541 & 541A (also were Pensnett routes). I only remember this because PE B6s used to operate those 3 routes. Maybe someone else could contribute with more (and reliable) information.
That's pretty much correct. When the 581 was at PE, NX operated it during the evening. You also had the 544 operated by WN, which I believe is now the 82 and the 545 before that was withdrawn by NX
Thank you both, appreciate the help to corroborate on my post.
I had the dubious pleasure, for the first time in many a year, of a round trip between Quinton (Amber Tavern) and Wolverhampton on the 126. Both buses, 4545 and 4591, were freezing and 4545 sounded none too healthy. It got me thinking, given the length of some of the journeys, and the mind numbing time it takes (not helped by most of the route being one main road that looks the same along most of the way), I'm sure it would benefit from some newer buses and / or and express version (I know this has been debated before).
Whatever happened to Dudley? It looked nothing like that last time I was there. Mind you DY garage was still open in those days.
WN pvr up +1 from 17th Feb for a Wobaston roadworks shuttle.
Quote from: Nathan on February 04, 2014, 07:40:50 PM
Quote from: BN on February 04, 2014, 07:36:34 PM
WN pvr up +1 from 17th Feb for a Wobaston roadworks shuttle.
Wobaston Roadworks shuttle? First I've heard of it?
As far as I know NX management don't have to tell you every change in Wolverhampton
Quote from: Tony on February 04, 2014, 07:57:28 PM
Quote from: Nathan on February 04, 2014, 07:40:50 PM
Quote from: BN on February 04, 2014, 07:36:34 PM
WN pvr up +1 from 17th Feb for a Wobaston roadworks shuttle.
Wobaston Roadworks shuttle? First I've heard of it?
As far as I know NX management don't have to tell you every change in Wolverhampton
I don't expect them to tell me everything although I have been informed about the shuttle anyway! Anyway I was referring its the first I have heard of the major roadworks on Wobaston that require a shuttle. I know there was some roadworks last week but not that bad
Quote from: Mike K on February 03, 2014, 10:38:12 PM
I had the dubious pleasure, for the first time in many a year, of a round trip between Quinton (Amber Tavern) and Wolverhampton on the 126. Both buses, 4545 and 4591, were freezing and 4545 sounded none too healthy. It got me thinking, given the length of some of the journeys, and the mind numbing time it takes (not helped by most of the route being one main road that looks the same along most of the way), I'm sure it would benefit from some newer buses and / or and express version (I know this has been debated before).
Whatever happened to Dudley? It looked nothing like that last time I was there. Mind you DY garage was still open in those days.
I agree with you that the route needs newer buses now; I'm not a great fan of the Tridents due to their inept heating most of the time (although 4342 is a good one) and the scruffy upstairs moulded blue front interior panels that need some sort of repainting or replacing.
There was a 43** trident on the 126 today, not sure which one
Quote from: Sh4318 on February 04, 2014, 09:50:55 PM
There was a 43** trident on the 126 today, not sure which one
Did it look freshly repainted? If so it was 4310, if not it was 4313 as 4311 has been on the 59 all day/evening and 4312 is away for repaint :)
4609 on 28 today.
Quote from: Matt on February 08, 2014, 12:01:59 PM
4609 on 28 today.
That will be the trident I saw this morning which I saw again whilst on 1434 on the 69
Merc 1662 was seen heading back to PL this afternoon with a man in orange behind the wheel and the front of the bus seemed to be riding very high almost bouncing along. 81 was in the dest box so must have been taken off to a suspension fault.
Quote from: DOC37V on February 08, 2014, 11:56:02 PM
Merc 1662 was seen heading back to PL this afternoon with a man in orange behind the wheel and the front of the bus seemed to be riding very high almost bouncing along. 81 was in the dest box so must have been taken off to a suspension fault.
I love it when the suspension malfunctions! Always a laugh to see either the one side completely full of air or the thing high in the sky and handling like a boat or so low to the floor it'll give chav's something to aim for with their done-up Vauxhall Corsas!
The Volvo B7tl ALX400's when at BC seemed to have that regular fault, the ferry lift just would not lower. However, they seemed to be left in service as the platform would drop when requested but normal travelling height was increased. I've always wondered about some of the bridges in the city with the height only allowing a few inches but those B7's were only 14' 3".
633 is today's WN62 if that's of interest to anybody
Quote from: Ashley on February 09, 2014, 01:41:03 PM
633 is today's WN62 if that's of interest to anybody
586 was on the 62 this morning Ashley but had a defect and was replaced with 633 for the 11:30 ex Wolverhampton departure :)
Quote from: Ashley on February 09, 2014, 01:41:03 PM
633 is today's WN62 if that's of interest to anybody
Replaced 586 like i told Rob. 633 replaced it on the 11:30 departure.
Queen St buses are currently on diversion due to a car parked in a position where the buses can't get past (Coupled with roadworks making the road narrow)
Has anyone seen 4555 lately?
Quote from: Matt on February 09, 2014, 10:25:24 PM
Has anyone seen 4555 lately?
I saw it on Thursday on either the 255 or 126 (It was one of those two)
Quote from: Matt on February 09, 2014, 10:25:24 PM
Has anyone seen 4555 lately?
Was on the 59 yesterday
Looks like 2070 will be off the road for a while due to an RTC
4310 is on 126 just seen it
Quote from: NXDom on February 13, 2014, 04:31:15 PM
4310 is on 126 just seen it
Its been back for a few weeks now. Managed to catch it a few weeks back on its first day out.
Quote from: 4006 on February 13, 2014, 01:38:18 AM
Looks like 2070 will be off the road for a while due to an RTC
I hear there was a collision in Chapel Ash involving a bus? Was this the bus involved?
I was on 601 this morning on the 82 and it broke down because the ankorate light came on so that went back to the garage at about 9ish
Quote from: NXDom on February 14, 2014, 04:23:21 PM
I was on 601 this morning on the 82 and it broke down because the ankorate light came on so that went back to the garage at about 9ish
The what light? ???
1652 now at WN
Quote from: Stu on February 14, 2014, 06:53:49 PM
Quote from: NXDom on February 14, 2014, 04:23:21 PM
I was on 601 this morning on the 82 and it broke down because the ankorate light came on so that went back to the garage at about 9ish
The what light? ???
I would also like to know about this particular. . . .
Quote from: Ashley on February 14, 2014, 07:59:19 PM
Quote from: BN on February 14, 2014, 07:54:30 PM
1652 now at WN
Is it for service?
It was only in service at West Brom yesterday on the 45. Could it be to replace one of the accident damaged ones? Or maybe an engine donor to another O405N
Quote from: John on February 14, 2014, 08:51:53 PM
Quote from: Ashley on February 14, 2014, 07:59:19 PM
Quote from: BN on February 14, 2014, 07:54:30 PM
1652 now at WN
Is it for service?
It was only in service at West Brom yesterday on the 45. Could it be to replace one of the accident damaged ones? Or maybe an engine donor to another O405N
4310/11/12/13 were the replacements for the withdrawn mercs/Spectra's John
Quote from: John on February 14, 2014, 08:51:53 PM
Quote from: Ashley on February 14, 2014, 07:59:19 PM
Quote from: BN on February 14, 2014, 07:54:30 PM
1652 now at WN
Is it for service?
It was only in service at West Brom yesterday on the 45. Could it be to replace one of the accident damaged ones? Or maybe an engine donor to another O405N
BN has previously suggested that WN's Pvr will increase by +1 due to a shuttle service
Plus 2070 is off the road with accident damage and will be off for some time i'm told
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 14, 2014, 08:47:39 PM
Quote from: Stu on February 14, 2014, 06:53:49 PM
Quote from: NXDom on February 14, 2014, 04:23:21 PM
I was on 601 this morning on the 82 and it broke down because the ankorate light came on so that went back to the garage at about 9ish
The what light? ???
I would also like to know about this particular. . . .
Thats what the driver said i dont know how to spell it so i spelt it how it sounds
Does sending 1652 go against the policy of keeping blocks of fleetnumbers together. Wouldn't 1651 or 1668 have been better choices for that reason? I'm not complaining, just curious
Quote from: NXDom on February 14, 2014, 09:53:57 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 14, 2014, 08:47:39 PM
Quote from: Stu on February 14, 2014, 06:53:49 PM
Quote from: NXDom on February 14, 2014, 04:23:21 PM
I was on 601 this morning on the 82 and it broke down because the ankorate light came on so that went back to the garage at about 9ish
The what light? ???
I would also like to know about this particular. . . .
Thats what the driver said i dont know how to spell it so i spelt it how it sounds
Maybe you could describe what it is and maybe someone would give a correctly spelled word to match the description?
it was a RED light and the light could flash or be on permanantly and the garage said check the fuel cap and it was located at the top left of the dash
Quote from: NXDom on February 14, 2014, 10:12:01 PM
it was a RED light and the light could flash or be on permanantly and the garage said check the fuel cap and it was located at the top left of the dash
Hand brake? Anti-Freeze? Oil Level? Just trying to work out what's on a B6's dashboard!
It may of been the coolant light cause i was sitting at the back so it was hard to hear what the driver was saying to the garage
Has anyone got a fleetnumber of a bus on the 12:34 25C from wolverhampton, if not just one thats on the 25A or 25C
Quote from: NXDom on February 15, 2014, 10:59:52 AM
Has anyone got a fleetnumber of a bus on the 12:34 25C from wolverhampton, if not just one thats on the 25A or 25C
I'm sure 4608 will do the 12:04 25C but not sure on the 12:34. I will go out now and check for you :)
cheers mate ;)
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 15, 2014, 10:15:25 AM
Quote from: NXDom on February 14, 2014, 10:12:01 PM
it was a RED light and the light could flash or be on permanantly and the garage said check the fuel cap and it was located at the top left of the dash
Hand brake? Anti-Freeze? Oil Level? Just trying to work out what's on a B6's dashboard!
The top left flashing red light is just the general hazard warning light telling you to look at the bank of warning lights to the right by the handbrake
Quote from: Tony on February 15, 2014, 12:21:39 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 15, 2014, 10:15:25 AM
Quote from: NXDom on February 14, 2014, 10:12:01 PM
it was a RED light and the light could flash or be on permanantly and the garage said check the fuel cap and it was located at the top left of the dash
Hand brake? Anti-Freeze? Oil Level? Just trying to work out what's on a B6's dashboard!
The top left flashing red light is just the general hazard warning light telling you to look at the bank of warning lights to the right by the handbrake
Thanks Tony, I remember there was 2 'banks' of warning lights, as like the Spectras. But they were positioned vertically not horizontally like the deckers. An exclamation mark I presume is the graphic on the light?
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 15, 2014, 03:39:54 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 15, 2014, 12:21:39 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 15, 2014, 10:15:25 AM
Quote from: NXDom on February 14, 2014, 10:12:01 PM
it was a RED light and the light could flash or be on permanantly and the garage said check the fuel cap and it was located at the top left of the dash
Hand brake? Anti-Freeze? Oil Level? Just trying to work out what's on a B6's dashboard!
The top left flashing red light is just the general hazard warning light telling you to look at the bank of warning lights to the right by the handbrake
Thanks Tony, I remember there was 2 'banks' of warning lights, as like the Spectras. But they were positioned vertically not horizontally like the deckers. An exclamation mark I presume is the graphic on the light?
Like this, LS? This is a dashboard of a B10L. You could see the light with a triangle and the ! inside it. http://i.imgur.com/99tpIBP.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/99tpIBP.jpg)
Quote from: P419 EJW on February 15, 2014, 03:49:32 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 15, 2014, 03:39:54 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 15, 2014, 12:21:39 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 15, 2014, 10:15:25 AM
Quote from: NXDom on February 14, 2014, 10:12:01 PM
it was a RED light and the light could flash or be on permanantly and the garage said check the fuel cap and it was located at the top left of the dash
Hand brake? Anti-Freeze? Oil Level? Just trying to work out what's on a B6's dashboard!
The top left flashing red light is just the general hazard warning light telling you to look at the bank of warning lights to the right by the handbrake
Thanks Tony, I remember there was 2 'banks' of warning lights, as like the Spectras. But they were positioned vertically not horizontally like the deckers. An exclamation mark I presume is the graphic on the light?
Like this, LS? This is a dashboard of a B10L. You could see the light with a triangle and the ! inside it. http://i.imgur.com/99tpIBP.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/99tpIBP.jpg)
Is that a NXWM b10?
Yes, it is, NXDom.
Which one may i ask?
It was the YW B10L, 1450, P450 JOX.
Quote from: P419 EJW on February 15, 2014, 03:49:32 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 15, 2014, 03:39:54 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 15, 2014, 12:21:39 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 15, 2014, 10:15:25 AM
Quote from: NXDom on February 14, 2014, 10:12:01 PM
it was a RED light and the light could flash or be on permanantly and the garage said check the fuel cap and it was located at the top left of the dash
Hand brake? Anti-Freeze? Oil Level? Just trying to work out what's on a B6's dashboard!
The top left flashing red light is just the general hazard warning light telling you to look at the bank of warning lights to the right by the handbrake
Thanks Tony, I remember there was 2 'banks' of warning lights, as like the Spectras. But they were positioned vertically not horizontally like the deckers. An exclamation mark I presume is the graphic on the light?
Like this, LS? This is a dashboard of a B10L. You could see the light with a triangle and the ! inside it. http://i.imgur.com/99tpIBP.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/99tpIBP.jpg)
Yes, from what I remember. I think the B6 dashboards were smaller (obviously). Always a soft spot for the 'early' TWM Volvo's, B10B/L, B6 and the like. Bit of a difference between a B10L and a Lynx! haha
I'm not a driver but I'd guess drivers preferred B10L's to Lynxes given that particular choice. I say that because the B10L's front section has a simpler ldesign but a Lynx would win for the sake of nostalgia. I could be wrong though
As for 601, that one doesn't fail in service very often. 586 is the troublesome one at the moment
Is there any roadwork closures on the 126 route because I seen one on the 82 passing cosely railway station
Edit I seen one approx 12:40 126
Quote from: Christopher on February 15, 2014, 11:05:13 PM
Is there any roadwork closures on the 126 route because I seen one on the 82 passing cosely railway station
Edit I seen one approx 12:40 126
There is an evening closure this weekend on Birmingham New Rd in Coseley This weekend and next weekend
Thanks nath but why would a 126 to birmingham be routed differently ?
Quote from: Christopher on February 15, 2014, 11:25:02 PM
Thanks nath but why would a 126 to birmingham be routed differently ?
Because the section going towards Dudley/Birmingham is closed.
Buses towards W'ton are not affected
I will post full diversion details soon
That explains it then thanks again nath 😀
Bit of a long shot here, but would anyone happen to know which bus was due to work the 23:15 126E from Wolverhampton today (Saturday)? I took a couple of pictures on it and forgot to take the fleetnumber.
Quote from: N94 on February 16, 2014, 12:32:58 AM
Bit of a long shot here, but would anyone happen to know which bus was due to work the 23:15 126E from Wolverhampton today (Saturday)? I took a couple of pictures on it and forgot to take the fleetnumber.
Wish I could help you being one of the few Wolverhampton area experts however I am never out at that time so couldn't say ;)
Quote from: N94 on February 16, 2014, 12:32:58 AM
Bit of a long shot here, but would anyone happen to know which bus was due to work the 23:15 126E from Wolverhampton today (Saturday)? I took a couple of pictures on it and forgot to take the fleetnumber.
if i remember correctly due to the diversion it goes past my house so i think it was 4597
Quote from: NXDom on February 16, 2014, 09:10:58 AM
Quote from: N94 on February 16, 2014, 12:32:58 AM
Bit of a long shot here, but would anyone happen to know which bus was due to work the 23:15 126E from Wolverhampton today (Saturday)? I took a couple of pictures on it and forgot to take the fleetnumber.
if i remember correctly due to the diversion it goes past my house so i think it was 4597
4597 is 529 branded. Are you sure it was 4597?
508's today's 62
Quote from: Nathan on February 16, 2014, 10:23:59 AM
Quote from: NXDom on February 16, 2014, 09:10:58 AM
Quote from: N94 on February 16, 2014, 12:32:58 AM
Bit of a long shot here, but would anyone happen to know which bus was due to work the 23:15 126E from Wolverhampton today (Saturday)? I took a couple of pictures on it and forgot to take the fleetnumber.
if i remember correctly due to the diversion it goes past my house so i think it was 4597
4597 is 529 branded. Are you sure it was 4597?
Maybe not then it defenatly was 45*7
Nx Dom was it 4557
Quote from: N94 on February 16, 2014, 12:32:58 AM
Bit of a long shot here, but would anyone happen to know which bus was due to work the 23:15 126E from Wolverhampton today (Saturday)? I took a couple of pictures on it and forgot to take the fleetnumber.
To add more confusion 4560, 4572 were on the 126 lates last night :D
Quote from: Matt on February 16, 2014, 10:33:53 AM
508's today's 62
Was just going to post that :) Its not often that you have one of the ex PE B6's on Sunday 62's
4583 was parked up in Wolverhampton Bus Stat this morning about 10:50 displaying 1-Dudley Via Sedgley. Whether it was going to work 1's i don't know as it was gone by 11:25
With all the reusing 2 digit service numbers I have just realised one of my photos of 1669 at WN is on the 25(A) in August 2012, not unusual, but have a look at the photo underneath (third one down on this page)
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1515-1743/1669.html
4583 was on 32/33/79 all day yesterday Nathan
is there any spectras on 79 of late
Quote from: Ashley on February 17, 2014, 08:05:29 PM
4583 was on 32/33/79 all day yesterday Nathan
Yep saw it later on a 79 trip :)
Quote from: Christopher on February 17, 2014, 08:07:57 PM
is there any spectras on 79 of late
There is sometimes a Spectra during the week
Quote from: Nathan on February 17, 2014, 08:11:45 PM
Quote from: Christopher on February 17, 2014, 08:07:57 PM
is there any spectras on 79 of late
There is sometimes a Spectra during the week
Last Thursday, there were at least three Spectras on there including 4002.
The 79 has reverted back to the Spectra/Trident mix
Quote from: Ashley on February 17, 2014, 08:14:27 PM
The 79 has reverted back to the Spectra/Trident mix
Probably due to the fact the 59 becoming mainly trident operated
thank you for those replies
Anyone got a list of the 45xx Tridents with the HD Forward Facing cameras?
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 17, 2014, 09:08:39 PM
Anyone got a list of the 45xx Tridents with the HD Forward Facing cameras?
Maybe BN could answer that?
1669 on 2 just left bus station towards Warstones.
Quote from: Matt on February 17, 2014, 09:34:51 PM
1669 on 2 just left bus station towards Warstones.
It has been on since early this morning too. So appears to be on an evening board. Interesting...
Quote from: Nathan on February 17, 2014, 09:14:25 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 17, 2014, 09:08:39 PM
Anyone got a list of the 45xx Tridents with the HD Forward Facing cameras?
Maybe BN could answer that?
They all have them!
4575 on the 126 today if anybody is looking
4310 on the 3 for the first time in 2 and a half years
A Voith and a ZF Trident on WN3 today
A total of 10 tridents and 1 B5 on the 59 today with not one Spectra which is fairly odd on a weekday
The tridents are 4537,4543,4561,4566,4569,4582,4594,4596,4606 and 4609
The B5 is 5513
Did you catch any of the fleetnumbers of the tridents on the 3 Ashley?
Quote from: Nathan on February 19, 2014, 11:25:22 AM
A total of 10 tridents and 1 B5 on the 59 today with not one Spectra which is fairly odd on a weekday
The tridents are 4537,4543,4561,4566,4569,4582,4594,4596,4606 and 4609
The B5 is 5513
Did you catch any of the fleetnumbers of the tridents on the 3 Ashley?
Am wondering, with it being half term, if they are allocating buses more like a Saturday. certainly PE seem to have more deckers on the 276 and less on the 53?
4001 and 4002 have replaced 4596 and 5513 on the 59.
Stu,The 59 is mainly tridents in the week anyway.
It just gets better and better at PL! (Being sarcastic)
4001/2/13 and 4535 are all now in the 59 replacing 4543,4596,4609 and 5513
5513 has now moved to 126's. Seen leaving Wolverhampton Bus Station about 40 minutes ago
And 4596 has now moved onto the 28!
One of the Tridents on the 3 was 4595 Nathan, never got an ID for the second one
Quote from: Nathan on February 19, 2014, 06:05:47 PM
It just gets better and better at PL! (Being sarcastic)
4001/2/13 and 4535 are all now in the 59 replacing 4543,4596,4609 and 5513
5513 has now moved to 126's. Seen leaving Wolverhampton Bus Station about 40 minutes ago
And 4596 has now moved onto the 28!
4311 was on this evening
4019 is on board 59/11 today which does the last bus from W'ton tonight. Always operated by a Trident or B5
Also 4575 is on the 59 today incase anybody is looking?
Quote from: Ashley on February 19, 2014, 11:23:53 PM
One of the Tridents on the 3 was 4595 Nathan, never got an ID for the second one
Todays trident on the 3 was 4560 incase anybody was interested?
Two ZF's on the 3 today, 4587 was one, noticed they're being put on very different boards to the norm
The 28 was 4553 plus 2 Spectras, I don't know if thats worth mentioning
Quote from: Ashley on February 21, 2014, 08:55:17 PM
Two ZF's on the 3 today, 4587 was one, noticed they're being put on very different boards to the norm
The 28 was 4553 plus 2 Spectras, I don't know if thats worth mentioning
There was a B6 on the 28 this morning so must be a swap.
4011 is on the 59 tonight. Pretty odd as in recent weeks it has been fully trident operated in the evening
Quote from: Nathan on February 21, 2014, 09:12:06 PM
Quote from: Ashley on February 21, 2014, 08:55:17 PM
Two ZF's on the 3 today, 4587 was one, noticed they're being put on very different boards to the norm
The 28 was 4553 plus 2 Spectras, I don't know if thats worth mentioning
There was a B6 on the 28 this morning so must be a swap.
4011 is on the 59 tonight. Pretty odd as in recent weeks it has been fully trident operated in the evening
The B6 was 640. 😊
598 is todays 62 incase anyone is interested?
4575 is on the 32/3/79's incase anyone is looking for it?
Only 2 B5's on the 59 today instead of the usual 3-4 (5512/3) with 4 tridents on there (4542/52/91 and 4609)
And 5511 is on Sunday 11's! Crazy if you ask me!
A bit crazy in Wolverhampton this afternoon
5512 and 5513 were replaced with 2028 and 4580 on the 59
4586 replaced 4552 on the 59
5511 was on the 11 today and 4539 is on the 1 today
So a normally fully B5 operated Sunday Evening 59 has no hybrids at all tonight!
Also Sedgley High St was closed this afternoon by police due to an incident resulting in buses being sent down Vicar St then Gospel End Lane to normal line of route. The road may still be closed
a e400h has just gone down ivyhouse lane on the 126 being followed by another trident
Three deckers on WN3 today
10:55 ex Castlecroft
11:25 ex Castlecroft
11:55 ex Castlecroft (the usual decker board)
1682 is today's WN4 Merc
633 is on WN59 this afternoon
1650 is on WN79 this afternoon
Has 1652 been out in service yet?
Quote from: Ashley on February 24, 2014, 03:25:24 PM
1682 is today's WN4 Merc
633 is on WN59 this afternoon
1650 is on WN79 this afternoon
That's funny, only that I just saw 633 on 33 heading to Northwood Park half an hour ago.
Was on stand U at 13:55 with 59 on the back so must have changed
Last one from me
620 chugging away on the 81 this afternoon. I had an almost nostalgic fEeling from when it used to chug into Dudley on 222's. Happy days
1652 has been out think its on the 82 today, but has been on 25a/c lastweek
Quote from: mranon on February 24, 2014, 04:52:28 PM
1652 has been out think its on the 82 today, but has been on 25a/c lastweek
Saw it 25's on Saturday.633 was on a peak 59 probably then put onto 33's straight after
1685 is on the 256 this afternoon
5512 on 126 at Birmingham markets at 10:45am today.
25A/C running late this afternoon due to rtc at the Junction of Wood End Rd and Amos Lane in Wednesfield
I thought I posted this earlier but todays gen from Wolverhampton
601 and 586 on daytime 11's
554 555 and 598 were the 62/62A/716/peak time 11's trio today
4538 4543 4582 were todays Tridents on the 3. 4582 on the usual decker board. Think this is happening because B7RLE's have been off the road en masse the past couple of days. Speaking of which, 2070 is back on the road
Quote from: Ashley on February 25, 2014, 08:09:43 PM
I thought I posted this earlier but todays gen from Wolverhampton
601 and 586 on daytime 11's
554 555 and 598 were the 62/62A/716/peak time 11's trio today
4538 4543 4582 were todays Tridents on the 3. 4582 on the usual decker board. Think this is happening because B7RLE's have been off the road en masse the past couple of days. Speaking of which, 2070 is back on the road
And Mercs on the 2 and 4 today so more B7's off the road
There was a B7RLE on the 1 towards Dudley at about 12.50 this afternoon but I didn't catch the number. The other unusual sighting at the same time (which has nothing to do with National Express) was of an unidentified First double decker (ALX400) heading up Snow Hill at the same time towards the A4123 New Road or A459 towards Sedgley. I just wondered where it had come from and where it was going.
Quote from: Roy on February 25, 2014, 08:49:06 PM
There was a B7RLE on the 1 towards Dudley at about 12.50 this afternoon but I didn't catch the number. The other unusual sighting at the same time (which has nothing to do with National Express) was of an unidentified First double decker (ALX400) heading up Snow Hill at the same time towards the A4123 New Road or A459 towards Sedgley. I just wondered where it had come from and where it was going.
I was going to say the trident at Costal Liner but just read it was an ALX400 (The one at Costal Liner is an ex First Diamond/First Plaxton President Trident)
Appears a WN trident (On the 79 presumably) was involved in a collision (The bus doesn't look badly damaged) early this morning:
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2014/02/25/bilston-road-sees-third-crash-in-as-many-days-as-bus-and-car-collide/
Quote from: Nathan on February 25, 2014, 08:59:49 PM
Appears a WN trident (On the 79 presumably) was involved in a collision (The bus doesn't look badly damaged) early this morning:
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2014/02/25/bilston-road-sees-third-crash-in-as-many-days-as-bus-and-car-collide/
...and it's down to the driver to prove his innocence! I wish people on these network sites would not post about fault blaming without knowing the full story.
i went past it on the 82 from what i heard the car came out as the bus was going past so it was the cars fault but the bus had a crack on half of the windscreen nothing too serious wasnt the drivers fault, also it was on the 82 that left bilston at 1447
Quote from: Roy on February 25, 2014, 08:49:06 PM
There was a B7RLE on the 1 towards Dudley at about 12.50 this afternoon but I didn't catch the number. The other unusual sighting at the same time (which has nothing to do with National Express) was of an unidentified First double decker (ALX400) heading up Snow Hill at the same time towards the A4123 New Road or A459 towards Sedgley. I just wondered where it had come from and where it was going.
The B7RLE on the 1 was 2020
Saw 2008 going up Broad Street into Birmingham not in service around midday today so maybe on the 126?
Quote from: N94 on February 26, 2014, 02:43:55 PM
Saw 2008 going up Broad Street into Birmingham not in service around midday today so maybe on the 126?
Most likley on the 126 :) And i bet you there are atleast 2 tridents on the 3 and more on the 27!
4545 and 4570 definately on the 3 today. 4545 on the normal board
1677 is today's Merc on the 4
508 555 598 todays 62 trio
1652 on the 25A/C if anybody is looking
2070 is on 10's
2008 is on 126's yes
4579 on the 126 also (Still need to get a ride).
Thanks for the info Ashley :) 508 is the bus that goes onto the 11. Saw about 16:15 on Broad St on 11's
Saw 1652 on 25A/C today. It looks pretty rough. Tony has it allocated to West Brom and I thought it was too. Chaos on the 529 at lunch time. 4577 failed in Walsall bus station and had to be towed away.
Quote from: Eric Shaw on February 26, 2014, 08:49:26 PM
Saw 1652 on 25A/C today. It looks pretty rough. Tony has it allocated to West Brom and I thought it was too. Chaos on the 529 at lunch time. 4577 failed in Walsall bus station and had to be towed away.
It transfered to WN due to a PVR increase of 1 whilst the Wobaston Rd/Patshull Avenue works take place.
Have you seen 1669 Nathan or is it still likely to be at PE? :)
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on February 26, 2014, 08:54:27 PM
Have you seen 1669 Nathan or is it still likely to be at PE? :)
Haven't seen 1669 in the past few days being at school plus the fact i have only really been on the 59 in the past week. I will look out tommorow Stu :)
thanks Nathan :)
508 and 555 would have gone onto PM peak 11's. 598 would have done PM 716 then return to garage
5514 126 today. Haven't put it in the unusual workings thread because it's starting so get normal now
554 was today's 62. The ex PE B6's don't tend to be used on Sundays. (Usually the 62*/63*/64*)
Think they'll just use the 5xx's every day of the week on 62's now inclluding sunday's. Personally i'd happily have a 6xx for a change because i'm a tad bored of the not so fantastic five now. 554 is the best of the five though, every seat i can fit in, super heating, drivers like it, sails up the hills no problem, has the best steering as well i've noticed
Quote from: Ashley on March 02, 2014, 10:38:55 PM
Think they'll just use the 5xx's every day of the week on 62's now inclluding sunday's. Personally i'd happily have a 6xx for a change because i'm a tad bored of the not so fantastic five now. 554 is the best of the five though, every seat i can fit in, super heating, drivers like it, sails up the hills no problem, has the best steering as well i've noticed
Better than 555? ???
I'm sorry to say Matt but I hope 555 is the first to go. It's a shed
Quote from: Ashley on March 02, 2014, 11:03:03 PM
I'm sorry to say Matt but I hope 555 is the first to go. It's a shed
I never liked 554 when at PN, 555 was always my favourite, well apart from 502...
Quote from: Matt on March 02, 2014, 11:20:13 PM
Quote from: Ashley on March 02, 2014, 11:03:03 PM
I'm sorry to say Matt but I hope 555 is the first to go. It's a shed
I never liked 554 when at PN, 555 was always my favourite, well apart from 502...
I'm sorry Ashley but either it is having a good day because it was still as good as ever on the 59 just :)
At Park Lane today:
As I was entering the garage about 08:50 WA based 4308 pulled out of the yard onto Park Lane towards Cannock Rd. I've been told it can't have been having an MOT so I wonder what it was doing there.
A fair few Spectra's in the yard today. I noted 4002 (In the garage),4004,4006 (being worked on),4009,4011,4012,4016 and 4022. 1685 was also in the yard alongside 5513
Quote from: Nathan on March 03, 2014, 05:12:37 PM
Quote from: Matt on March 02, 2014, 11:20:13 PM
Quote from: Ashley on March 02, 2014, 11:03:03 PM
I'm sorry to say Matt but I hope 555 is the first to go. It's a shed
I never liked 554 when at PN, 555 was always my favourite, well apart from 502...
I'm sorry Ashley but either it is having a good day because it was still as good as ever on the 59 just :)
At Park Lane today:
As I was entering the garage about 08:50 WA based 4308 pulled out of the yard onto Park Lane towards Cannock Rd. I've been told it can't have been having an MOT so I wonder what it was doing there.
A fair few Spectra's in the yard today. I noted 4002 (In the garage),4004,4006 (being worked on),4009,4011,4012,4016 and 4022. 1685 was also in the yard alongside 5513
Ashley has perfectly valid reasons for disliking 555, as much as I like it, a fast bus is not necessarily a good one
I suppose its just my opinion and of course Ashley is allowed to have his own opinion :)
Personally I still like it because it is fast and still sounds like a screaming cat ;)
Don't get me wrong 555 still has a top noise and is fast but as Matt say's whichI agree with "A fast bus isn't always a good bus". Can think of a few examples where that quote is valid.
Just to add, 555's main faults are the footbrake, the bronze brake, the steering and the occassional leak but I'm not a mechanic, I'm just going on what I've noticed.
Quote from: Ashley on March 03, 2014, 05:37:21 PM
Don't get me wrong 555 still has a top noise and is fast but as Matt say's whichI agree with "A fast bus isn't always a good bus". Can think of a few examples where that quote is valid.
Just to add, 555's main faults are the footbrake, the bronze brake, the steering and the occassional leak but I'm not a mechanic, I'm just going on what I've noticed.
Bronze brake? - If a bus had brake faults it would not be on the road
I've just been told by a driver it's called the "bronze brake" and on 555 it has a tendency to shoot up at random sometimes. For a time 555 used to vibrate very loudly when the brakes were on so every surrounding noise became inaudible.
Quote from: Ashley on March 03, 2014, 07:15:25 PM
I've just been told by a driver it's called the "bronze brake" and on 555 it has a tendency to shoot up at random sometimes. For a time 555 used to vibrate very loudly when the brakes were on so every surrounding noise became inaudible.
I think you mean the Broms Brake. It is an extra automatic brake on Volvos to stop runaways. As soon as the air pressure gets too low to operate the footbrake the Broms Brake comes on to stop the vehicle running away. Even if you build the air pressure back up it stays on until you reset it by putting the button that has risen slightly back into the lower position. If the Broms brake comes on with the engine running it normally means the bus is not holding its full air pressure, but the low air warning should always sound before the Broms brake applies.
Quote from: Tony on March 03, 2014, 07:36:30 PM
Quote from: Ashley on March 03, 2014, 07:15:25 PM
I've just been told by a driver it's called the "bronze brake" and on 555 it has a tendency to shoot up at random sometimes. For a time 555 used to vibrate very loudly when the brakes were on so every surrounding noise became inaudible.
I think you mean the Broms Brake. It is an extra automatic brake on Volvos to stop runaways. As soon as the air pressure gets too low to operate the footbrake the Broms Brake comes on to stop the vehicle running away. Even if you build the air pressure back up it stays on until you reset it by putting the button that has risen slightly back into the lower position. If the Broms brake comes on with the engine running it normally means the bus is not holding its full air pressure, but the low air warning should always sound before the Broms brake applies.
I'm sorry for the incorrect spelling but thank you for explaining
A WA based B10L pulled into Park Lane yard this morning followed by an engineering van. I believe it came off the 39 with a defect.
Also i know the answer to why 4308 was seen pulling out of PL. It had a defect on the 40 so was taken to Park Lane for attention
4006 has been on the pits since Monday and 555 was on the pits recieving attention today. 4605 came into garage half way through the day off the 529 with a defect.
Also looking at the running boards in dispatch yesterday there are some 255 boards that don't do 255's at all as all 256's/7's on 255 numbered boards.
Quote from: Nathan on March 05, 2014, 05:00:09 PM
A WA based B10L pulled into Park Lane yard this morning followed by an engineering van. I believe it came off the 39 with a defect.
Also i know the answer to why 4308 was seen pulling out of PL. It had a defect on the 40 so was taken to Park Lane for attention
4006 has been on the pits since Monday and 555 was on the pits recieving attention today. 4605 came into garage half way through the day off the 529 with a defect.
Also looking at the running boards in dispatch yesterday there are some 255 boards that don't do 255's at all as all 256's/7's on 255 numbered boards.
Don't the 256 have 256 numbered boards then Nathan? :)
Nope Stu :) All 256/7 Journeys are 255 boards so 255/0**'etc. I can't remember the board numbers but i will go to dispatch tommorow and look at the boards for you :)
Quote from: Nathan on March 05, 2014, 10:08:57 PM
Nope Stu :) All 256/7 Journeys are 255 boards so 255/0**'etc. I can't remember the board numbers but i will go to dispatch tommorow and look at the boards for you :)
This is probably left over from the disastrous days when the 257 first transferred to WN and all 3 routes interworked with each other, can't quite remember the correct order, think it might be somewhere in this thread actually but think a bus would do a 255 WN to Merry Hill and back to WN, 256 to Stourbridge, 257 to Dudley and back to Stourbridge then a 256 back to WN and so on!
The reliability of the 257 for that little while was poor indeed having to catch it most days
When i was on the 62 into town this morning. A B7RLE passed us on Farmdale estate however it wasn't in service but following either the 62 or 62A route. Wonder what it could of been doing?
I personally see it as wasteful if WN plan to put B7RLE's on 62/62A. Within a week you'd spot one in Carlyle's yard.
2066 was working the 126 yesterday evening. I saw it on the Birmingham New. Rd heading for Birmingham around 7.00pm. Don't see many of these on this route.
Quote from: barry on March 07, 2014, 07:04:09 AM
2066 was working the 126 yesterday evening. I saw it on the Birmingham New. Rd heading for Birmingham around 7.00pm. Don't see many of these on this route.
Again a change bus in the rush hour.
Ashley you say its a waste but usually the B7's replace a B6 or if they are allocated from start of service then its the only bus they have avaliable. There have been hardly any B6's spare (A few are in the garage being worked on) so the B7 is the only other bus with transponders so will be the next bus suitible bus.
The B7 you saw was probably late running so adjusted to run dead to take up duties on the next 62
Same with any unusual working on a route, Sometimes the only avaliable bus is a type not usually on that route. Today a driver asked me me for a change bus for 1684 on the 59 so the bus i sent out out was 4011 as there were no tridents spare. This board was an evening 59 and Spectra's don't do Evening 59's (For several reasons) so this may be swapped with a bus coming off another route.
That's not true. I believe the B7RLE was taken out on the 62A route as they are believed to be planning to tweek the frequency of the 62 to reduce its monday to saturday layover time in Finchfield due to complaints from drivers on the 3. A B7RLE may be the only vehicle available in the garage but it's still overkill
Quote from: Ashley on March 07, 2014, 10:22:02 PM
That's not true. I believe the B7RLE was taken out on the 62A route as they are believed to be planning to tweek the frequency of the 62 to reduce its monday to saturday layover time in Finchfield due to complaints from drivers on the 3. A B7RLE may be the only vehicle available in the garage but it's still overkill
I guess you know more than me about the 62 route. Not exactly a route I take interest in. ;)
Tweek the frequency? I presume you mean the timetable as they would not change the 60 minute frequency (30 minutes combined)
There was not one B6 parked up spare in garage today so I guess they took a B7 out as its the only bus they could have available.
Which B6's have Transponders fitted? (I did actually look it up yesterday but can't remember which ones)
Also i would think if a B7 was in service on the 62/A they are the only other bus type with transponders fitted so I guess they are used if a B6 is not available.
I have heard the B6's are to be replaced this year at PL but I will believe I when I see it
All B6LE's will have to be replaced this year because of DDA regulations. I think in WN's case, they'll decide on their intake quantity of new vehicles once it is known who will operate the 62/62A when the route is re-tendered in October. Transponder equipped B6LE's are 508, 554, 555, 586, 598. No B7RLE's have been on the 62/62A apart from that one off sunday appearance of 2028 and 2067's one trip wonder early in february. As for the 62/62A, Arriva and Diamond have said they are not interested in it and as much as it is percieved a dead duck, if NXWM marketed it properly and ran it for more hours in the day, the route would be a success as interest is there, people would use it if it ran for longer and if they knew it existed. Plus it would also avoid the continual uproar of community groups.
Quote from: Ashley on March 07, 2014, 10:36:58 PM
All B6LE's will have to be replaced this year because of DDA regulations. I think in WN's case, they'll decide on their intake quantity of new vehicles once it is known who will operate the 62/62A when the route is re-tendered in October. Transponder equipped B6LE's are 508, 554, 555, 586, 598. No B7RLE's have been on the 62/62A apart from that one off sunday appearance of 2028 and 2067's one trip wonder early in february. As for the 62/62A, Arriva and Diamond have said they are not interested in it and as much as it is percieved a dead duck, if NXWM marketed it properly and ran it for more hours in the day, the route would be a success as interest is there, people would use it if it ran for longer and if they knew it existed. Plus it would also avoid the continual uproar of community groups.
Arriva and Diamond have said they are not interested in it? First of all, have they. Secondly, if they have, they presumably mean commercially. Thirdly, I cannot see arriva or diamond not running it under contract to Centro if the price was right.
Quote from: Ashley on March 07, 2014, 10:36:58 PM
All B6LE's will have to be replaced this year because of DDA regulations. I think in WN's case, they'll decide on their intake quantity of new vehicles once it is known who will operate the 62/62A when the route is re-tendered in October. Transponder equipped B6LE's are 508, 554, 555, 586, 598. No B7RLE's have been on the 62/62A apart from that one off sunday appearance of 2028 and 2067's one trip wonder early in february. As for the 62/62A, Arriva and Diamond have said they are not interested in it and as much as it is percieved a dead duck, if NXWM marketed it properly and ran it for more hours in the day, the route would be a success as interest is there, people would use it if it ran for longer and if they knew it existed. Plus it would also avoid the continual uproar of community groups.
Personally running it more regular or later is a waste of time and money bus company's may have responsibilities but ultimately it is the profit margins that count!
surely now it runs down gorsebrook rd extending its running hours would help plug the gap by the re-routing of the 25/a?
Quote from: mranon on March 09, 2014, 02:13:57 PM
surely now it runs down gorsebrook rd extending its running hours would help plug the gap by the re-routing of the 25/a?
But is there enough demand at those times as after 4PM every 25 I caught after that time picked up 0 or very little passengers on that section of route
Many bus passengers on Gorsebrook Road also now use the 5 so don't forget that Nathan. Extending the operating hours of the 62 and 62A would get many of those back on to the bus, it would cater for school traffic and employment as well as the elderly, especially those who live in Perton. The changes went totally un-noticed by community groups and even Perton's neighbourhood watch co-ordinator as well as contributors to media publications such as the parish newslatter and the Perton Pages who I believe have good things to say about their new service. People on that side of Perton felt cut off when the 510 became the 10 and was re-routed and they have found it hard to get out over these last 2 and a half years so they are also appreciative. Marketing techniques should be more personal than updating websites, simple cards through letterboxes would be pretty easy to sort out given bus drivers themselves have put timetables up in bus shelters in Perton to try and increase patronage. There is no reason all of the above should,kt and could,kt happen but I get a feeling people are just looking at profit rather than fulfilling the social needs of bus services like this.
I've always found it odd that the Sunday service runs for longer than the weekday service
Quote from: Nathan on February 25, 2014, 08:59:49 PM
Appears a WN trident (On the 79 presumably) was involved in a collision (The bus doesn't look badly damaged) early this morning:
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2014/02/25/bilston-road-sees-third-crash-in-as-many-days-as-bus-and-car-collide/
Found out during the week whilst at Park Lane the bus involved was 4571
So have i but it's handy for me that the last 62 I can get on a sunday from a certain point is due at 17:43
I'm also told that 638 has just had a replacement engine which explains why I've not seen it for weeks "638 + new engines - that's my suprised face nailed"
Quote from: Ashley on March 10, 2014, 01:06:20 AM
I'm also told that 638 has just had a replacement engine which explains why I've not seen it for weeks "638 + new engines - that's my suprised face nailed"
Yes it was in the garage all of Last week whilst I was there
Not sure if I've woke up in a dream but I'm pretty sure WN3 has 2 Spectras and 2 Tridents on today. 4016 is definately the 09:40 ex Castlecroft
Indeed there are 2 spectra on the 3, I had to double take as well! 4005 is the other one.
4539 "Rochdale Pioneers" is one of the two tridents. Must be an acute volvo shortage today
Quote from: Ashley on March 11, 2014, 09:48:59 AM
Not sure if I've woke up in a dream but I'm pretty sure WN3 has 2 Spectras and 2 Tridents on today. 4016 is definately the 09:40 ex Castlecroft
Yep I can confirm it too! It seems as soon as I left W'ton Garage on Friday (Work experience) the allocations are all over the place again ;D (Only joking BTW ;)) 4539 is on the usual trident board.
4539 was yesterdays Trident on the 3 as well
Saw 2028 on WN1 on my way home (1700ish heading for Tettenhall Wood)
Quote from: Ashley on March 11, 2014, 07:37:20 PM
4539 was yesterdays Trident on the 3 as well
Saw 2028 on WN1 on my way home (1700ish heading for Tettenhall Wood)
So a trident (4535) and a B7 on the 1 and 5412 on the 25A/C!
4001 enjoying an evening trip on the 59 tonight (One of the last buses of the night). Spectra's are usually kept off evening 59's o whether it was changed at any point I don't know (Last seen near Ashmore Park just before 8PM)
4311 and 4554 both seen just under an hour ago on WN 59. Neither were on earlier this evening
Quote from: Nathan on March 14, 2014, 11:07:32 PM
4311 and 4554 both seen just under an hour ago on WN 59. Neither were on earlier this evening
4554 was on at 16:15.
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on March 14, 2014, 11:15:25 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 14, 2014, 11:07:32 PM
4311 and 4554 both seen just under an hour ago on WN 59. Neither were on earlier this evening
4554 was on at 16:15.
Must have missed 4554 then. Thanks :) I presume it replaced another trident?
555 is today's 62 in case anybody is interested? :) Also today I have seen two seperate 255 journies depart W'ton around 35-40 minutes past the hour. (Due out at 5 past). Is there a timetable change I don't know about or is there something causing such late running along the 255 route?
Quote from: Nathan on March 16, 2014, 12:11:19 PM
555 is today's 62 in case anybody is interested? :) Also today I have seen two seperate 255 journies depart W'ton around 35-40 minutes past the hour. (Due out at 5 past). Is there a timetable change I don't know about or is there something causing such late running along the 255 route?
There's a car boot sale at Himley that is causing traffic chaos.
Quote from: Roy on March 16, 2014, 12:48:33 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 16, 2014, 12:11:19 PM
555 is today's 62 in case anybody is interested? :) Also today I have seen two seperate 255 journies depart W'ton around 35-40 minutes past the hour. (Due out at 5 past). Is there a timetable change I don't know about or is there something causing such late running along the 255 route?
There's a car boot sale at Himley that is causing traffic chaos.
2064 managed to catch up time yesterday afternoon. 4543 is today 3 in case anybody is interested.
Quote from: Nathan on March 17, 2014, 06:34:22 PM
Quote from: Roy on March 16, 2014, 12:48:33 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 16, 2014, 12:11:19 PM
555 is today's 62 in case anybody is interested? :) Also today I have seen two seperate 255 journies depart W'ton around 35-40 minutes past the hour. (Due out at 5 past). Is there a timetable change I don't know about or is there something causing such late running along the 255 route?
There's a car boot sale at Himley that is causing traffic chaos.
2064 didn't 'catch up time' It was adjusted
2064 managed to catch up time yesterday afternoon. 4543 is today 3 in case anybody is interested.
Oh OK. Thanks. Did it run dead back to W'ton at any point. I did think it was pretty difficult to catch up time seeming I saw it depart at least 30 minute late earlier on so don't know why I thought that
Three Tridents have been on WN3 today
Quote from: Ashley on March 17, 2014, 07:09:20 PM
Three Tridents have been on WN3 today
No, only 2, 4543 & 4548
I thought I'd seen three but thanks Tony
At least 6 Spectra's on WN59 today. The most I've seen on here in a long while. 4001 appears to be on 59/01. I wonder if it actually did the first trip?
Crash involving a bus in Wolverhampton this morning.
https://twitter.com/P_Madeley_Star/status/445856183833088000/photo/1
No indication of operator / which bus etc.
The golf bounced off 4006. Hardly any damage.
Quote from: Nathan on March 18, 2014, 05:26:47 PM
At least 6 Spectra's on WN59 today. The most I've seen on here in a long while. 4091 appears to be on 59/01. I wonder if it actually did the first trip?
I know you mean 4001 but it would be interesting to see a President on WN59! 😜
Quote from: Nathan on March 18, 2014, 05:26:47 PM
At least 6 Spectra's on WN59 today. The most I've seen on here in a long while. 4091 appears to be on 59/01. I wonder if it actually did the first trip?
Yes, 4001 (not 4091) has done the complete 59-01 running board
Quote from: Tony on March 18, 2014, 06:16:23 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 18, 2014, 05:26:47 PM
At least 6 Spectra's on WN59 today. The most I've seen on here in a long while. 4091 appears to be on 59/01. I wonder if it actually did the first trip?
Yes, 4001 (not 4091) has done the complete 59-01 running board
Yes I meant 4001. 4001 probably came off late night 255's so was parked near the front of the garage so because the first 59 is one of the earlier buses out of garage so that's why 4001 ran the first trip. Very rare to get a Spectra on the first trip.
It appears some of the evening trips on the 59 are Spectra's tonight also
Quote from: Nathan on March 18, 2014, 06:19:44 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 18, 2014, 06:16:23 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 18, 2014, 05:26:47 PM
At least 6 Spectra's on WN59 today. The most I've seen on here in a long while. 4091 appears to be on 59/01. I wonder if it actually did the first trip?
Yes, 4001 (not 4091) has done the complete 59-01 running board
Yes I meant 4001. 4001 probably came off late night 255's so was parked near the front of the garage so because the first 59 is one of the earlier buses out of garage so that's why 4001 ran the first trip. Very rare to get a Spectra on the first trip.
It appears some of the evening trips on the 59 are Spectra's tonight also
Only one Spectra out this evening
4011 on the 32
I'm guessing it is 4019 which is out on 59's tonight? Hasn't it even been swapped like they usually do early evening (and should do!)
Quote from: Nathan on March 18, 2014, 10:23:43 PM
I'm guessing it is 4019 which is out on 59's tonight? Hasn't it even been swapped like they usually do early evening (and should do!)
There were none on the 59 see the post above
Quote from: Tony on March 19, 2014, 07:17:03 AM
Quote from: Nathan on March 18, 2014, 10:23:43 PM
I'm guessing it is 4019 which is out on 59's tonight? Hasn't it even been swapped like they usually do early evening (and should do!)
There were none on the 59 see the post above
Sorry I thought you meant one spectra on the 59 and also 4011 on the 32. My apologies
Didn't have any time to post yesterday
I'm told 4595 was on WN4 on monday
4560, 4595 and I'm sure a third Trident were on WN3 yesterday
09:10, 09:40, 10:10 ex Castlecroft were Tridents. Sadly I would have been late if I'd waited for the 10:55
4015 was on WN59 at 21:30 last night, that's when it left Wolverhampton
Quote from: Ashley on March 19, 2014, 09:16:07 AM
Didn't have any time to post yesterday
I'm told 4595 was on WN4 on monday
4560, 4595 and I'm sure a third Trident were on WN3 yesterday
09:10, 09:40, 10:10 ex Castlecroft were Tridents. Sadly I would have been late if I'd waited for the 10:55
4015 was on WN59 at 21:30 last night, that's when it left Wolverhampton
yes 4595 was on the 4 on Monday. 4579 was the third trident on the 3 on Tuesday
Back to a single Spectra on the 59 today,4015 on board 59/03. Also hybrids on a weekday 59 for once. 5511 and 5514 on here today with the rest being tridents.
601 was on peak board 59/12 this morning.
4310 looking very smart on the 255
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on March 19, 2014, 04:22:39 PM
4310 looking very smart on the 255
Goes to shows that even after being back in service for over a month they still look spotless :)
600 was parked in Dudley bus station at Lunchtime with 81 WOLVERHAMPTON on front, presumably had done an 81E to Dudley earlier???
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on March 19, 2014, 07:40:15 PM
600 was parked in Dudley bus station at Lunchtime with 81 WOLVERHAMPTON on front, presumably had done an 81E to Dudley earlier???
Do you know if it was broken down? If not it had probably been adjusted to run to Wolverhampton starting from Dudley.
Quote from: Nathan on March 19, 2014, 07:42:28 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on March 19, 2014, 07:40:15 PM
600 was parked in Dudley bus station at Lunchtime with 81 WOLVERHAMPTON on front, presumably had done an 81E to Dudley earlier???
Do you know if it was broken down? If not it had probably been adjusted to run to Wolverhampton starting from Dudley.
Don't think so Nathan, popped to the toilet (those toilets in Dudley Bus station are disgusting) and when i came out it had gone, so like you think it had been adjusted. :) :)
Quote from: DOC37V on August 21, 2013, 09:29:21 PM
I managed to scoop the Doyern of the fleet in last Friday on the 11, sounded mega loud like the exhaust blowing. Or could just be a loud animal all round!
Excuse the potential ignorance.... but do the Spectra's have certain diagrams set out and if so how many are there a day for the fleet of 21 ? I'm assuming they do as most of them go to bed after the evening peak although I did see 4004 around 2215 last night on the 11.
It appears Spectra's are creeping out onto early mornings and late nights. 4001 on 59/01 yesterday (04:48 depart garage and 05:00 in Service at Ashmore Park) with it LSO being on the 255 all day then late night 256's. 4011 was on 32's last night and Spectra's have been appearing on late night 59's recently
If it's of interest to anybody, last night's 25/27's were
45xx - 19:35 27 ex Dudley
1662 - 20:35 27 ex Dudley (same as last week)
2066 - 21:35 27 ex Dudley (unhappy face symbol)
1672 - 22:50 27 ex Dudley
1652 is now withdrawn from WN. I presume the +1 PVR at WN is no longer required?
Yes it still is +1
1673 on the 59 today on board 59/03 from start of board (5:5* from garage)
Also 4 Spectra's on the 59 today (4011/13/19 and 20). Whether any of these are on late nights I do not know (late night boards are 59/02,59/05,59/08 and 59/11)
1652 didnt last long then. will it be replaced
No mate.
Quote from: mranon on March 21, 2014, 09:21:47 PM
1652 didnt last long then. will it be replaced
I can't help but think that if it had stayed at WB it probably would still be in service!
Oh dear
Tonight on Queen Street
Hybrid on 59 and b6le on 25c stuck
Causing havoc with buses having to reverse
Can't work if hybrid broken or something else
Quote from: vinh1000 on March 22, 2014, 07:48:09 PM
Oh dear
Tonight on Queen Street
Hybrid on 59 and b6le on 25c stuck
Causing havoc with buses having to reverse
Can't work if hybrid broken or something else
There are roadworks in Queen St and it is very tight anyway so if a car parks lightly out of place the buses can't get through
Quote from: Nathan on March 22, 2014, 08:05:08 PM
Quote from: vinh1000 on March 22, 2014, 07:48:09 PM
Oh dear
Tonight on Queen Street
Hybrid on 59 and b6le on 25c stuck
there
Causing havoc with buses having to reverse
Can't work if hybrid broken or something else
There are roadworks in Queen St and it is very tight anyway so if a car parks lightly out of place the buses can't get through
Went round to look
Um car parked very slanted leaving nearly no gap at all
4592 appears to have replaced 5514 on the 59 this afternoon.
4010 was put onto the 59 this afternoon to replace a trident on board 59/02 which works a late night. Spectra's are usually kept off late night 59's and driver did tell me he would try and swap it if possible. I never saw if it was swapped or not?
Also 4589 taken off the 59 and put onto the 28. I couldn't work out why it was changed. 4594 was put onto the 59 in its place
5511 came out on a 711/529 this afternoon and 5416 was on an all day 11
If there are any Spectra's out late night then could you let me know thanks :). (I'm think 4009 has replaced 4570 on a late night 59 board)
Anybody that wants to see 2010 it is in Queens Square for the day. It has now been named.
Dicky Dodd, signal radio DJ
Quote from: BN on March 29, 2014, 11:27:37 AM
Anybody that wants to see 2010 it is in Queens Square for the day. It has now been named.
Dicky Dodd, signal radio DJ
It took up duties on the 82 at Wolverhampton about 14:40
Quote from: BN on March 29, 2014, 11:27:37 AM
Anybody that wants to see 2010 it is in Queens Square for the day. It has now been named.
Dicky Dodd, signal radio DJ
Who exactly is that Dicky Dodd bloke? On his twitter I thought he was a driver, after mentioning he got an A on a DQM...
Quote from: Liverpool Street on March 29, 2014, 03:56:42 PM
Quote from: BN on March 29, 2014, 11:27:37 AM
Anybody that wants to see 2010 it is in Queens Square for the day. It has now been named.
Dicky Dodd, signal radio DJ
Who exactly is that Dicky Dodd bloke? On his twitter I thought he was a driver, after mentioning he got an A on a DQM...
He is a Radio DJ for Wolverhampton Radio Station Signal 107 who also has a keen interest in buses (Owns his own Metrobus).
http://t.co/qZ9MISmqZx
Here's a photo of his driving assessment
Met him once in 1997 when he was parked up in a Beacon Black Thunder on the Royal George car park in Willenhall!
Quote from: BN on March 29, 2014, 11:27:37 AM
Anybody that wants to see 2010 it is in Queens Square for the day. It has now been named.
Dicky Dodd, signal radio DJ
it wasnt there for long!!!!!!
Quote from: mranon on March 29, 2014, 07:39:11 PM
Quote from: BN on March 29, 2014, 11:27:37 AM
Anybody that wants to see 2010 it is in Queens Square for the day. It has now been named.
Dicky Dodd, signal radio DJ
it wasnt there for long!!!!!!
Yes went straight back into service on the 82. Strangely enough a member joined tonight named WN2010?
Quote from: Nathan on March 29, 2014, 07:53:55 PM
Quote from: mranon on March 29, 2014, 07:39:11 PM
Quote from: BN on March 29, 2014, 11:27:37 AM
Anybody that wants to see 2010 it is in Queens Square for the day. It has now been named.
Dicky Dodd, signal radio DJ
it wasnt there for long!!!!!!
Yes went straight back into service on the 82. Strangely enough a member joined tonight named WN2010?
Who isn't Dickie Dodd before some people put 2 & 2 together
2010, along with a Signal 107 van, was outside the Nickelodeon Pub in Bentley Bridge at about 11am. There was a special scrolling message on the bottom line of the destination display.
Signal 107? Isn't that The Wolf?
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 29, 2014, 09:47:44 PM
Signal 107? Isn't that The Wolf?
Yes, it was. It changed a few years ago now.
EDIT: Searched it and it was formed on Monday 26 March 2012 after a merger of The Wolf, The Severn and The Wyre. Thanks to Wikipedia.
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on March 29, 2014, 09:53:44 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 29, 2014, 09:47:44 PM
Signal 107? Isn't that The Wolf?
Yes, it was. It changed a few years ago now.
EDIT: Searched it and it was formed on Monday 26 March 2012 after a merger of The Wolf, The Severn and The Wyre. Thanks to Wikipedia.
Same day as Beacon, Brmb, Mercia & Wyvern all became Free, I seem to recall.
Signal started at midday, while Free started at 7pm.
Think we are going abit off topic here.... ;)
126's all over the place today with buses running dead in many places with gaps of 30-45 mins in places. Never recalled it being that bad on a Saturday before?
Also 632 was on the 62 today. Thought it was only 508,554,555,586 and 598 fitted with transponder for the Per ton Bus Link?
Quote from: Nathan on March 29, 2014, 10:37:05 PM
Think we are going abit off topic here.... ;)
126's all over the place today with buses running dead in many places with gaps of 30-45 mins in places. Never recalled it being that bad on a Saturday before?
Also 632 was on the 62 today. Thought it was only 554,555,586 and 598 fitted with transponder for the Per ton Bus Link?
508 has the transponder too? 555 broke down today, iirc reading someone's post today.
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=2655.msg90633#new
Quote from: P419 EJW on March 29, 2014, 10:41:41 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 29, 2014, 10:37:05 PM
Think we are going abit off topic here.... ;)
126's all over the place today with buses running dead in many places with gaps of 30-45 mins in places. Never recalled it being that bad on a Saturday before?
Also 632 was on the 62 today. Thought it was only 554,555,586 and 598 fitted with transponder for the Per ton Bus Link?
508 has the transponder too? 555 broke down today, iirc reading someone's post today.
Yes 508 also :) Thanks :) Here's the link to the post you're referring too :) (mranon's post at the bottom of the page)
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=535.855
Quote from: Nathan on March 29, 2014, 10:46:37 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on March 29, 2014, 10:41:41 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 29, 2014, 10:37:05 PM
Think we are going abit off topic here.... ;)
126's all over the place today with buses running dead in many places with gaps of 30-45 mins in places. Never recalled it being that bad on a Saturday before?
Also 632 was on the 62 today. Thought it was only 554,555,586 and 598 fitted with transponder for the Perton Bus Link?
508 has the transponder too? 555 broke down today, iirc reading someone's post today.
Yes 508 also :) Thanks :) Here's the link to the post you're referring too :) (mranon's post at the bottom of the page)
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=535.855
Heh, welcome. Ah, yeah, thanks. :3 I wonder how 632 managed with the Perton Bus Link, considering it hasn't got a transponder.
That was my thought also Liam :). Also you only ever seem to get a transponder equipped B6 (5** B6's) on a Sunday 62 when the 62A doesn't operate. The 6** B6's rarely operate on Sundays although its easily possible
Also in W'ton today
All 5 unbranded B5's (5510-14) all on the 59 today. First time that's happened in a while :)
I would just like to point out that Dicky Dodd does a lot of excellent Charity work for both signal 107 and alongside national express. It was an honour to have a bus named after him after all the excellent work he has done for the city of Wolverhampton over the last 20 years
632 won't have stayed on the 62 and 62A. Logic says it would have done one 62 which is enough time to find a suitable replacement.
This afternoon in Wolverhampton.
5 Spectra's on the 59 today which is more than usual (4004/9/12/15/22 with 4009 on a late night running board).
4594 came into W'ton as a 59 on board 59/11 about 16:10 (Late night board) but was put on the 126. 4013 came off board 126/20 (Does a 712 trip and no 126's).Spectra's aren't supposed to be on late night 59's so 4013 was taken off after one trip and swapped with 4545.
4565 has also replaced a Spectra on the 59 this afternoon within the past few hours (4004 was the bus it replaced I think)
So a few buses swapped round this afternoon then :)
Quote from: Nathan on March 31, 2014, 06:24:35 PM
This afternoon in Wolverhampton.
5 Spectra's on the 59 today which is more than usual (4004/9/12/15/22 with 4009 on a late night running board).
4594 came into W'ton as a 59 on board 59/11 about 16:10 (Late night board) but 4013 was pulled off the 126 (For obvious reasons) and was put onto the 59 with 4594 going onto the 126. Spectra's aren't supposed to be on late night 59's so 4013 was taken off after one trip and swapped with 4545.
4565 has also replaced a Spectra on the 59 this afternoon within the past few hours (4004 was the bus it replaced I think)
So a few buses swapped round this afternoon then :)
As I put in the unusual working thread 4013 was not 'pulled off' the 126 at about 16:10
And 4009 has been taken off a late night 59 board (59/05 I think correct me if I'm wrong?) replaced by 4310
Also 4582 is sounding quite unhealthy this evening on the 59. Got off it about 10 minutes ago and the engine sounded Knackered
EDIT:i've been informed 1677 was on board 59/10 this morning but must have been swapped as 4012 has been on that board for most of the afternoon.
Quote from: Nathan on March 31, 2014, 07:39:30 PM
And 4009 has been taken off a late night 59 board (59/05 I think correct me if I'm wrong?) replaced by 4310
4310 was on schools this afternoon, it was the 713.
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on March 31, 2014, 07:52:16 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 31, 2014, 07:39:30 PM
And 4009 has been taken off a late night 59 board (59/05 I think correct me if I'm wrong?) replaced by 4310
4310 was on schools this afternoon, it was the 713.
Yes saw it parked up in the layover space next to the bus station :). I have a feeling 4582 will be taken off at some point tonight. Rode it about half hour go and it felt underpowered and the engine sounded unhealthy
4545 sounded rough too
Quote from: mranon on March 31, 2014, 08:05:53 PM
4545 sounded rough too
It has been sounding like that for a long time! Needs a new engine imo
For anybody who may be interested. To my suprise I found out that 632 stayed on 62/62A's all day. It was expected to be replaced with 586 coming off 27's but that also broke down but the drivers had to keep 632 and divert in Perton
Quote from: Nathan on March 31, 2014, 08:15:26 PM
Quote from: mranon on March 31, 2014, 08:05:53 PM
4545 sounded rough too
It has been sounding like that for a long time! Needs a new engine imo
I wonder if they keep a spare engine or two, or if they have to be ordered in?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on March 31, 2014, 09:06:43 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 31, 2014, 08:15:26 PM
Quote from: mranon on March 31, 2014, 08:05:53 PM
4545 sounded rough too
It has been sounding like that for a long time! Needs a new engine imo
I wonder if they keep a spare engine or two, or if they have to be ordered in?
I think a bus that needs a new engine would have a replacement engine fitted whilst being serviced/MOT'd?
Quote from: Nathan on March 31, 2014, 09:13:33 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on March 31, 2014, 09:06:43 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 31, 2014, 08:15:26 PM
Quote from: mranon on March 31, 2014, 08:05:53 PM
4545 sounded rough too
It has been sounding like that for a long time! Needs a new engine imo
I wonder if they keep a spare engine or two, or if they have to be ordered in?
I think a bus that needs a new engine would have a replacement engine fitted whilst being serviced/MOT'd?
Suppose they are an expensive item to keep on the shelf, just in case one is needed.
B6 on 1
Enviro 400H on 62
Merc on 126
Wonder whats going on today :/
Quote from: Andrew on April 01, 2014, 09:46:56 AM
B6 on 1
Enviro 400H on 62
Merc on 126
Wonder whats going on today :/
Nice one ;D I bet you some people would have actually believed that!
Quote from: Andrew on April 01, 2014, 09:46:56 AM
B6 on 1
Enviro 400H on 62
Merc on 126
Wonder whats going on today :/
People making april fools up?
Quote from: Tony on April 01, 2014, 10:01:45 AM
Quote from: Andrew on April 01, 2014, 09:46:56 AM
B6 on 1
Enviro 400H on 62
Merc on 126
Wonder whats going on today :/
People making april fools up?
That was the general idea tony :) For one E400H's can't go on the 62/A due to not having transponders fitted to activate the Perton Bus Link bollard :)
Quote from: Tony on April 01, 2014, 10:01:45 AM
Quote from: Andrew on April 01, 2014, 09:46:56 AM
B6 on 1
Enviro 400H on 62
Merc on 126
Wonder whats going on today :/
People making april fools up?
Me ? Never :P
Although i wouldn't put it past them to put a B6 on the 1. Its happened before ;)
1670 just required extensive engineers attention on the 81 in WN bus station, the Mercs are really starting to wear out now it seems and now its 586's turn!
Yes there is a brand new one on the floor outside the office.
It can be done at anytime and it takes 3 days
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on April 01, 2014, 11:34:50 AM
1670 just required extensive engineers attention on the 81 in WN bus station, the Mercs are really starting to wear out now it seems and now its 586's turn!
It's always 586's turn to pack up
In other news
5510 was on 255's this afternoon (15:20 ex WN bus station)
2007 - 11
586 was back in service on the 81 this afternoon.
620 worked peak 59 board 59/14 this afternoon. In recent weeks the afternoon peak board has been predominantly a trident or a B7RLE. Obviously neither were available this afternoon so 620 was put out :). I suppose I would take a B6 over a B5 though ;)
Quote from: BN on April 01, 2014, 08:13:55 PM
Yes there is a brand new one on the floor outside the office.
It can be done at anytime and it takes 3 days
Do the engines took out go for rebuild? Would assume there is a programme of rebuild/replacement dependant on hours run? Or is it as and when needed ?
The engine was took straight out of 1654 and put straight into 1515 at pensnett
DOC37V,
The engines are replaced when required. Cummins take the old ones away and rework them.
Can anyone tell me who uses BC's E400H's (drives or passenger) what condition they are in generally?
Cheers
Quote from: BN on April 02, 2014, 04:42:32 PM
Can anyone tell me who uses BC's E400H's (drives or passenger) what condition they are in generally?
Cheers
I haven't driven one for about 3 months, but 3 months ago they were in excellent condition
Quote from: BN on April 02, 2014, 04:42:32 PM
Can anyone tell me who uses BC's E400H's (drives or passenger) what condition they are in generally?
Cheers
Yesterday I travelled on both the WN Hybrid's and the BC's! All the E400's were avoiding me though from both garages, think I went on 5515, 5517, 5501 and 5509 from memory. I am a huge fan of the B5's, though the BC ones do seem slightly quicker, apart from 5516 which last couple of times I have been on goes like a rocket!
Both garages seem to keep them pretty clean and tidy, the BC's benefit from the on bus cleaning at Colmore Row though which helps and perhaps slightly less anti-social behaviour, some etching is creeping onto WN's.
One slight moan though, is there anything that can be done to stop the next stop display scrolling screen upstairs, on the B5's in particular from rattling quite so badly, perhaps tighten the bolts a little or put some padding in the gap where they sometimes knock against the window
Quote from: BN on April 02, 2014, 04:42:32 PM
Can anyone tell me who uses BC's E400H's (drives or passenger) what condition they are in generally?
Cheers
Rode one on Saturday and they seem in good nick :). If only WN were to possibly have them......
In WN today:
626 on the 59 this morning and this afternoon (Peak board 59/09 this morning and afternoon peak board 59/14 this afternoon).
About 16:10 4313 was taken off the 59 (board 59/02) and put onto a 529 trip as far as Willenhall
As I suspected 4313 has been put back onto the 59 after being taken off o do a 529E trip to Willenhall this afternoon.
Quote from: BN on April 02, 2014, 04:42:32 PM
Can anyone tell me who uses BC's E400H's (drives or passenger) what condition they are in generally?
Cheers
Excellent condition. Still majorly As-New (As in, not much wear, anywhere across the vehicles). Does help them sticking to own routes and rarely venturing out of bounds. Don't know the mileage difference but could be a few thousand.. [Seems to be a fair few constantly parked in BC, or was, when I was there]
If BN is asking do we guess some are Wolverhampton bound ?
could it be the 9 b5's going to bc in exchange for their 9 e400h's as has been suggested manytimes?
I would like it if all of WN's eco machines were E400H's. Less chance of falling down the stairs probably the biggest reason
Quote from: Liverpool Street on April 02, 2014, 09:09:36 PM
Quote from: BN on April 02, 2014, 04:42:32 PM
Can anyone tell me who uses BC's E400H's (drives or passenger) what condition they are in generally?
Cheers
Excellent condition. Still majorly As-New (As in, not much wear, anywhere across the vehicles). Does help them sticking to own routes and rarely venturing out of bounds. Don't know the mileage difference but could be a few thousand.. [Seems to be a fair few constantly parked in BC, or was, when I was there]
Thanks LS, everyone don't start reading in to it too much.
1671 and 4015 were both on late night 59 boards last night. 4537 did replace 1671 (On board 59/02) but 405 was still on the 59 at 19:30 (On board 59/08). If anybody knows if they were swapped could they let me know thanks :)
I haven't really read this thread so I'm unsure whether this has been mentioned
today in Wolverhampton I saw a 6E via 'Whitmore Reens' on the front display, is that how it is supposed to be spelt because the branding show Reans instead on Reens?
it's not a big thing but I thought I'd just mention it
Quote from: OH25 on April 05, 2014, 05:35:47 PM
I haven't really read this thread so I'm unsure whether this has been mentioned
today in Wolverhampton I saw a 6E via 'Whitmore Reens' on the front display, is that how it is supposed to be spelt because the branding show Reans instead on Reens?
it's not a big thing but I thought I'd just mention it
Yes it should be spelt Whitmore Reans so its a typo error on the display
Which spectra is at miller st parked by gates
Quote from: Solo1 on April 05, 2014, 08:26:16 PM
Which spectra is at miller st parked by gates
One of either withdrawn 4003 or 4007 more than likely. Both are/were at Miller Street
Queen street is blocked again
Quote from: Andrew on April 06, 2014, 11:37:00 AM
Queen street is blocked again
Isn't any longer. My bus (4311) on the 59 got up there fine. The bus on board 59/05 seems to be either very late or missing though?
Quote from: Nathan on April 06, 2014, 12:11:45 PM
Quote from: Andrew on April 06, 2014, 11:37:00 AM
Queen street is blocked again
Isn't any longer. My bus (4311) on the 59 got up there fine. The bus on board 59/05 seems to be either very late or missing though?
4588 currently on time. Two other buses are running badly because of the earlier Queen Street problems though
Quote from: Tony on April 06, 2014, 12:34:56 PM
Quote from: Nathan on April 06, 2014, 12:11:45 PM
Quote from: Andrew on April 06, 2014, 11:37:00 AM
Queen street is blocked again
Isn't any longer. My bus (4311) on the 59 got up there fine. The bus on board 59/05 seems to be either very late or missing though?
4588 currently on time. Two other buses are running badly because of the earlier Queen Street problems though
Thanks Tony :) 4588 is the fifth bus out then (The only one I was yet to see)
EDIT: Queen St became blocked again with 5511,a 1 branded B5 and 5513 all in a row stuck about 13:15-13:20
A few buses swapped around today in W'ton. 4536 was the 59 (59/01) this morning but has been put onto 255's this afternoon. 4015 was then put onto the 59.
2066 was on the 59 this morning (59/11) but 4564 replaced it.
4311, 4312 on 126
Quote from: Sh4318 on April 07, 2014, 06:35:21 PM
4311, 4312 on 126
Are they running together or on seperate parts of the route?
Quote from: Nathan on April 07, 2014, 06:41:38 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on April 07, 2014, 06:35:21 PM
4311, 4312 on 126
Are they running together or on seperate parts of the route?
Nope, nothing out of the ordinary. Just felt like mentioning it
Quote from: Sh4318 on April 07, 2014, 07:09:30 PM
Quote from: Nathan on April 07, 2014, 06:41:38 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on April 07, 2014, 06:35:21 PM
4311, 4312 on 126
Are they running together or on seperate parts of the route?
Nope, nothing out of the ordinary. Just felt like mentioning it
No was just asking as I was going to see if they are both still out :)
Quote from: Nathan on April 07, 2014, 07:16:09 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on April 07, 2014, 07:09:30 PM
Quote from: Nathan on April 07, 2014, 06:41:38 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on April 07, 2014, 06:35:21 PM
4311, 4312 on 126
Are they running together or on seperate parts of the route?
Nope, nothing out of the ordinary. Just felt like mentioning it
No was just asking as I was going to see if they are both still out :)
Both around Bearwood, by the bus station around 5pm. One towards Birmingham and the other towards Wolverhampton. Forgot whether it was 4311 or 4312 going to Birminghaam, lol
Quote from: Sh4318 on April 07, 2014, 07:32:49 PM
Quote from: Nathan on April 07, 2014, 07:16:09 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on April 07, 2014, 07:09:30 PM
Quote from: Nathan on April 07, 2014, 06:41:38 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on April 07, 2014, 06:35:21 PM
4311, 4312 on 126
Are they running together or on seperate parts of the route?
Nope, nothing out of the ordinary. Just felt like mentioning it
No was just asking as I was going to see if they are both still out :)
Both around Bearwood, by the bus station around 5pm. One towards Birmingham and the other towards Wolverhampton. Forgot whether it was 4311 or 4312 going to Birminghaam, lol
It was 4312 going out as I photographed it in Birmingham on the 16:25 departure
I know it hasn't been a Wolverhampton bus for 10 years butformer 3057 was in Wolves today on a photoshoot for Bus and Coach Preservation magazine. It replicated a 501 journey at around 2pm
598 was on the 28 today (very rare to see it away from the 62 now)
Spectra on the 256 (15:05 ex Wolves)
Quote from: Ashley on April 07, 2014, 09:06:25 PM
I know it hasn't been a Wolverhampton bus for 10 years butformer 3057 was in Wolves today on a photoshoot for Bus and Coach Preservation magazine. It replicated a 501 journey at around 2pm
598 was on the 28 today (very rare to see it away from the 62 now)
Spectra on the 256 (15:05 ex Wolves)
So that what it was doing! Saw it about 1630-16:45 go in down Piper Row this afternoon
586 was on the 59 this morning (peak board 59/09) but was also on the 28 during the day alongside 598
I've been told 1586 was on WN59 today, or did they just see 1686?
Also, where's 4016 got to? Haven't seen it for a few weeks
WB's 1586 is on WN59 today! Caught it about 17:05 from Wolverhampton (On board 59/13)
4609 on the 82 today sounding very rough in need of some TLC
Quote from: NXDom on April 09, 2014, 05:53:10 PM
4609 on the 82 today sounding very rough in need of some TLC
Its been sounding like that for sometime unless it sound rougher than usual? It has had a detective rougher sounding engine for some time
Quote from: Nathan on April 09, 2014, 05:54:36 PM
Quote from: NXDom on April 09, 2014, 05:53:10 PM
4609 on the 82 today sounding very rough in need of some TLC
Its been sounding like that for sometime unless it sound rougher than usual? It has had a detective rougher sounding engine for some time
This was like PROPER rough, also whats going on with 1586
Quote from: NXDom on April 09, 2014, 06:00:10 PM
Quote from: Nathan on April 09, 2014, 05:54:36 PM
Quote from: NXDom on April 09, 2014, 05:53:10 PM
4609 on the 82 today sounding very rough in need of some TLC
Its been sounding like that for sometime unless it sound rougher than usual? It has had a detective rougher sounding engine for some time
This was like PROPER rough, also whats going on with 1586
1586 is on loan (Well I presume it is) to WN today on the 59. I presume WN are short of buses today?
Is there any possibility of a picture Nathan?
Quote from: NXDom on April 09, 2014, 06:05:37 PM
Is there any possibility of a picture Nathan?
I am going out in a bit to try and get a photo :)
Edit: Sadly my camera battery cut out AS I was about to take a photo of 1586. Its went back to garage from Ashmore Park about 15 mins ago
Apparently WN were 7 vehicles short this morning which may explain 1586 being rushed over. Also 586 I'm told is adorning the do not touch steering wheel cover. Couldn't a couple of Mercs be reinstated for a while
Quote from: Ashley on April 09, 2014, 06:09:33 PM
Apparently WN were 7 vehicles short this morning which may explain 1586 being rushed over. Also 586 I'm told is adorning the do not touch steering wheel cover. Couldn't a couple of Mercs be reinstated for a while
That's interesting about 586, only that I saw it in service on Monday. o.o
Quote from: Ashley on April 09, 2014, 06:09:33 PM
Apparently WN were 7 vehicles short this morning which may explain 1586 being rushed over. Also 586 I'm told is adorning the do not touch steering wheel cover. Couldn't a couple of Mercs be reinstated for a while
I did hear WN were short of buses this morning. Board 59/13 is one of the later buses out of garage in the morning (Usually a trident/Spectra or failing that a Merc-From WN!) So I presume there were no buses spare for that board so 1586 (Loaned) was put onto there
1682 - todays WN4 Merc
4544 and another Trident - WN3 (4544 not on the usual board - 16:25 ex Castlecroft)
Quote from: Ashley on April 09, 2014, 06:09:33 PM
Apparently WN were 7 vehicles short this morning which may explain 1586 being rushed over. Also 586 I'm told is adorning the do not touch steering wheel cover. Couldn't a couple of Mercs be reinstated for a while
They certainly weren't 7 buses short.
Is 1586 back at WB now or still in use at WN?
Quote from: Nathan on April 10, 2014, 09:04:24 PM
Is 1586 back at WB now or still in use at WN?
Yes back at WB
Quote from: Tony on April 10, 2014, 09:09:20 PM
Quote from: Nathan on April 10, 2014, 09:04:24 PM
Is 1586 back at WB now or still in use at WN?
Yes back at WB
Thanks for that Tony :) Probably went back last night after it came off the 59 and went back to WN garage.
529 branded 4598 now has a pink stripe
Quote from: Andrew on April 11, 2014, 10:27:03 AM
529 branded 4598 now has a pink stripe
I'm guessing they will do this now for other branded routes such as the 50,51,82/7 etc?
4599/4601/4602 - have also gained the pink strip noted today whilst in walsall
Quote from: Nathan on April 11, 2014, 12:25:43 PM
Quote from: Andrew on April 11, 2014, 10:27:03 AM
529 branded 4598 now has a pink stripe
I'm guessing they will do this now for other branded routes such as the 50,51,82/7 etc?
Excellent, this is something I asked Simon to look at in the Ask the Director forum, think they look really smart
Quote from: Nathan4775 on April 11, 2014, 12:55:26 PM
4599/4601/4602 - have also gained the pink strip noted today whilst in walsall
I believe every 529 branded vehicle has been done - at least all the ones I noticed whilst in Nandos were!
Of note, I believe there are actually two strips of different shades of pink alongside each other.
Quote from: notepanel on April 11, 2014, 03:30:11 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on April 11, 2014, 12:55:26 PM
4599/4601/4602 - have also gained the pink strip noted today whilst in walsall
I believe every 529 branded vehicle has been done - at least all the ones I noticed whilst in Nandos were!
Of note, I believe there are actually two strips of different shades of pink alongside each other.
4603 has also been done. I've not seen any today that don't have it.
Quote from: notepanel on April 11, 2014, 03:30:11 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on April 11, 2014, 12:55:26 PM
4599/4601/4602 - have also gained the pink strip noted today whilst in walsall
I believe every 529 branded vehicle has been done - at least all the ones I noticed whilst in Nandos were!
Of note, I believe there are actually two strips of different shades of pink alongside each other.
Yes it has a thick lighter pink strip then a much thinner darker pink/purple next to it
Also, where's 4016 got to? Haven't seen it for a few weeks
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i thought i hadnt seen it. has it been withdrawn
Not withdrawn just a lot of work on it.
554 has though.
will 554 be replaced?
Re 554. Was it withdrawn with the worn diff or were there other faults??
4314 is now at WN from YW on the 59 today. Was supposed to tranfer in a few weeks due to a PVR decrease at YW from the 27th April but appears already to be here
I don't know whether the transfer of 4314 withdrew 554?
554 withdrawn, YES YES YES, used to hate it when it was at PE, and you can guarantee when i have been to Wolverhampton lately that the only B6 i see is 554.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 12, 2014, 11:05:33 AM
554 withdrawn, YES YES YES, used to hate it when it was at PE, and you can guarantee when i have been to Wolverhampton lately that the only B6 i see is 554.
I wonder whether its transponder for the Perton Bus Link will be fitted to another B6?
Quote from: Nathan on April 12, 2014, 11:07:52 AM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 12, 2014, 11:05:33 AM
554 withdrawn, YES YES YES, used to hate it when it was at PE, and you can guarantee when i have been to Wolverhampton lately that the only B6 i see is 554.
I wonder whether its transponder for the Perton Bus Link will be fitted to another B6?
Maybe/maybe not, i suppose it depends on the projected life left for the B6s, hopefully 600 will be one of the last in service, my favourite B6, was so sad when it was one of the first to leave PE for WN. It had been at PE since new.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 12, 2014, 11:12:16 AM
Quote from: Nathan on April 12, 2014, 11:07:52 AM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 12, 2014, 11:05:33 AM
554 withdrawn, YES YES YES, used to hate it when it was at PE, and you can guarantee when i have been to Wolverhampton lately that the only B6 i see is 554.
I wonder whether its transponder for the Perton Bus Link will be fitted to another B6?
Maybe/maybe not, i suppose it depends on the projected life left for the B6s, hopefully 600 will be one of the last in service, my favourite B6, was so sad when it was one of the first to leave PE for WN. It had been at PE since new.
Same here. I like 600, it has the old seat moquette, blue with a hint of orange lines, if you know what I mean.
Quote from: Nathan on April 12, 2014, 10:55:45 AM
4314 is now at WN from YW on the 59 today. Was supposed to tranfer in a few weeks due to a PVR decrease at YW from the 27th April but appears already to be here
I don't know whether the transfer of 4314 withdrew 554?
Only saw it yesterday on the 3E in Brum as well (first time seeing it repainted)
Quote from: John on April 12, 2014, 11:24:58 AM
Quote from: Nathan on April 12, 2014, 10:55:45 AM
4314 is now at WN from YW on the 59 today. Was supposed to tranfer in a few weeks due to a PVR decrease at YW from the 27th April but appears already to be here
I don't know whether the transfer of 4314 withdrew 554?
Only saw it yesterday on the 3E in Brum as well (first time seeing it repainted)
I thought it was 4310 (The bus behind 4314)/11/12 at a glance but saw the Fleet number as it passed through Heath Town
Is it possible for someone to give me a list of all wolverhampton garage routes?
Dom, you can get route maps from all bus station travel shops or go to the NXWM website.
Nathan 4314 has replaced 554 which was withdrawn due to the worn diff
I don't want the route maps i just want a list of the service numbers and destinations.
1 Dudley - Tettenhall Wood
2 Warstones - Bushbury Hill
3 Fordhouses - Castlecroft
4 Pendeford - Spring Hill
5/A Wolverhampton - Codsall
6/A Wolverhampton - Pendeford
10 Wolverhampton - Perton
11 Wolverhampton - Underhill
25A Wolverhampton - Bilston
25C Same as above
27/A Wolverhampton - Dudley
28 Wolverhampton - Willenhall
32 Wolverhampton - Fordhouse Road - Northwood Park -Bushbury - Wolverhampton
33 Wolverhampton - Bushbury - Northwood Park -Fordhouse Road - Wolverhampton
59 Wolverhampton - Ashmore Park
79 Wolverhampton - West Bromwich
81 Wolverhampton - Merry Hill
82 Wolverhampton - Dudley
126 Wolverhampton - Birmingham
255 Wolverhampton - Merry Hill
256 Wolverhampton - Stourbridge
257 Dudley - Stourbridge
529 Wolverhampton - Walsall
If you want the via points just use nxbus.com website
Plus 62 Wolves to Finchfield, 62A Wolves to Perton
Quote from: Matt on April 12, 2014, 03:50:52 PM
Plus 62 Wolves to Finchfield, 62A Wolves to Perton
:-\ whoops, forgot that one
Quote from: Nathan on April 12, 2014, 10:55:45 AM
4314 is now at WN from YW on the 59 today. Was supposed to tranfer in a few weeks due to a PVR decrease at YW from the 27th April but appears already to be here
I don't know whether the transfer of 4314 withdrew 554?
Here's 4314 on the 59 this afternoon parked up on Griffith's Drive in Ashmore Park waiting time before heading back to Wolverhampton:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/trident_4609/13803933805/#
Quote from: Nathan on April 12, 2014, 08:12:41 PM
Quote from: Nathan on April 12, 2014, 10:55:45 AM
4314 is now at WN from YW on the 59 today. Was supposed to tranfer in a few weeks due to a PVR decrease at YW from the 27th April but appears already to be here
I don't know whether the transfer of 4314 withdrew 554?
Here's 4314 on the 59 this afternoon parked up on Griffith's Drive Ash more Park waiting time before heading back to Wolverhampton:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/trident_4609/13803933805/#
Only seen 4314 in Solihull on Thursday either on the 49 or 76 not sure which but Great Shot Nath I'll fave the pic tomorrow. :)
Quote from: Nathan on April 12, 2014, 08:12:41 PM
Quote from: Nathan on April 12, 2014, 10:55:45 AM
4314 is now at WN from YW on the 59 today. Was supposed to tranfer in a few weeks due to a PVR decrease at YW from the 27th April but appears already to be here
I don't know whether the transfer of 4314 withdrew 554?
Here's 4314 on the 59 this afternoon parked up on Griffith's Drive in Ashmore Park waiting time before heading back to Wolverhampton:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/trident_4609/13803933805/#
Don't forget that there are reduced Easter Holiday timetables in operation for the next two weeks on several routes, including the 35, 49, 50, 76 & 84 routes at YW, which will reduce the PVR. Coupled with there being no school services, that explains why they are able to release this bus now.
Thanks Notepanel, I did think that was a possible reason for it to be here already :). 4314 is on the 32/33/79 today if anybody is looking?
Also if of any interest to anybody 598 is today's 62
Does the 529 have any short journeys if so were too?
Quote from: Nathan4775 on April 13, 2014, 02:42:33 PM
Does the 529 have any short journeys if so were too?
Not that I am aware of Nathan. However sometimes 529's can be adjusted as 529E's to Willenhall from Wolverhampton
Quote from: Nathan on April 13, 2014, 04:42:22 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on April 13, 2014, 02:42:33 PM
Does the 529 have any short journeys if so were too?
Not that I am aware of Nathan. However sometimes 529's can be adjusted as 529E's to Willenhall from Wolverhampton
When Walsall ran the route, were there any Walsall to Willenhall shorts?
Quote from: Nathan on April 13, 2014, 04:42:22 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on April 13, 2014, 02:42:33 PM
Does the 529 have any short journeys if so were too?
Not that I am aware of Nathan. However sometimes 529's can be adjusted as 529E's to Willenhall from Wolverhampton
thanks nathan (:
does anybody know what spectras are left at wn the fleet numbers
Quote from: Daniel w on April 14, 2014, 08:43:18 AM
does anybody know what spectras are left at wn the fleet numbers
All of 4001 - 22 excluding 03, 07, 14
If you have questions like this, just look at the fleetlists on the main site:
http://wmbusphotos.com
As enthusiasts/passengers, what could be the next vehicle to withdraw from service?
Another Spectra withdrawn, I hope!
Quote from: BN on April 14, 2014, 03:02:41 PM
As enthusiasts/passengers, what could be the next vehicle to withdraw from service?
Are you asking us which vehicle to withdraw? Or are you hinting that another bus has been withdrawn and you are asking us to guess which one it is? Another B6 or Merc I guess?
Quote from: Nathan on April 14, 2014, 04:26:52 PM
Quote from: BN on April 14, 2014, 03:02:41 PM
As enthusiasts/passengers, what could be the next vehicle to withdraw from service?
Are you asking us which vehicle to withdraw? Or are you hinting that another bus has been withdrawn and you are asking us to guess which one it is? Another B6 or Merc I guess?
Well a B6 has just gone, maybe (god forbid) a Spectra, 4019?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 14, 2014, 04:39:34 PM
Quote from: Nathan on April 14, 2014, 04:26:52 PM
Quote from: BN on April 14, 2014, 03:02:41 PM
As enthusiasts/passengers, what could be the next vehicle to withdraw from service?
Are you asking us which vehicle to withdraw? Or are you hinting that another bus has been withdrawn and you are asking us to guess which one it is? Another B6 or Merc I guess?
Well a B6 has just gone, maybe (god forbid) a Spectra, 4019?
Why 4019 Stu?
Quote from: Matt on April 14, 2014, 04:41:41 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 14, 2014, 04:39:34 PM
Quote from: Nathan on April 14, 2014, 04:26:52 PM
Quote from: BN on April 14, 2014, 03:02:41 PM
As enthusiasts/passengers, what could be the next vehicle to withdraw from service?
Are you asking us which vehicle to withdraw? Or are you hinting that another bus has been withdrawn and you are asking us to guess which one it is? Another B6 or Merc I guess?
Well a B6 has just gone, maybe (god forbid) a Spectra, 4019?
Why 4019 Stu?
Well its odd becuase, i was writing that post and i saw the number 4019 in my head, hope it doesn't come true now. Think i going mad :) :) :)
Quote from: BN on April 14, 2014, 03:02:41 PM
As enthusiasts/passengers, what could be the next vehicle to withdraw from service?
a trident, they can take it out of public service and put it into the training fleet. Only joking of course but always a possibility
Quote from: Andrew on April 14, 2014, 04:50:36 PM
Quote from: BN on April 14, 2014, 03:02:41 PM
As enthusiasts/passengers, what could be the next vehicle to withdraw from service?
a trident, they can take it out of public service and put it into the training fleet. Only joking of course but always a possibility
Isn't 4551 a bit of a rogue, maybe put a modern bus in the training fleet. then they can show drivers what to do when it breaks down, (have only seen 4551 twice and both times it had a tow truck in front of it!)
It seems several services have a slightly reduced pvrover the Easter Holidays. The 59 is one. There is only 10 buses on today compared with the 11 usually on (Excluding any peak boards)
There is only 166 out for the next 2 weeks.
Quote from: BN on April 14, 2014, 05:18:55 PM
There is only 166 out for the next 2 weeks.
Thanks :). It appears more Spectra's are out on 59's than usual. Probably because they are usually on Schools then parked in Garage but are being put to use elsewhere with no school for the next few weeks.
Quote from: Nathan on April 14, 2014, 05:22:08 PM
Quote from: BN on April 14, 2014, 05:18:55 PM
There is only 166 out for the next 2 weeks.
Thanks :). It appears more Spectra's are out on 59's than usual. Probably because they are usually on Schools then parked in Garage but are being put to use elsewhere with no school for the next few weeks.
Interestingly, if you look at the timetable for the 59 on the Network West Midlands website, it says its valid between 13/04/14 to 26/04/14,
It says here about slightly reduced frequency's during the easter period although it has the 59 down as West Brom ;)
It appears there is one less bus on the 59 during the but overall roughly every 6-8 minutes instead of the current 5-6
http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/ServiceAlterations/alterations.aspx
Quote from: Nathan on April 14, 2014, 05:45:06 PM
It says here about slightly reduced frequency's during the easter period although it has the 59 down as West Brom ;)
It appears there is one less bus on the 59 during the but overall roughly every 6-8 minutes instead of the current 5-6
http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/ServiceAlterations/alterations.aspx
I always thought that changes like this had to be authorised by VOSA?
Withdraw some green machines or B7RLE's BN. Only joking. Most drivers would say a B6, wouldn't 586 be a good candidate given all the trouble thats had since its been at WN. On the subject of B6's, 600 and 640 have been on 62/62A's because all 15 are having transponders fitted. Is that true?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 14, 2014, 05:57:59 PM
Quote from: Nathan on April 14, 2014, 05:45:06 PM
It says here about slightly reduced frequency's during the easter period although it has the 59 down as West Brom ;)
It appears there is one less bus on the 59 during the but overall roughly every 6-8 minutes instead of the current 5-6
http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/ServiceAlterations/alterations.aspx
I always thought that changes like this had to be authorised by VOSA?
No, not if it is registered as a ten Minute frequency or greater. Centro are normally notified, hence the timetable saying 13-26th April, but VOSA do not need to know
Quote from: Tony on April 14, 2014, 06:19:04 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 14, 2014, 05:57:59 PM
Quote from: Nathan on April 14, 2014, 05:45:06 PM
It says here about slightly reduced frequency's during the easter period although it has the 59 down as West Brom ;)
It appears there is one less bus on the 59 during the but overall roughly every 6-8 minutes instead of the current 5-6
http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/ServiceAlterations/alterations.aspx
I always thought that changes like this had to be authorised by VOSA?
No, not if it is registered as a ten Minute frequency or greater. Centro are normally notified, hence the timetable saying 13-26th April, but VOSA do not need to know
Thanks Tony, never knew that, how come then the summer timetable changes are shown on VOSA, is this to do with the length of time they are in force.
If anybody knows if any Spectra's are out late night tonight could they let me know thanks :)
any more news on the new delivery yet I now the spectras two of them have been withdrawn at park lane and some r r going the same way
Steven33, can you please ensure that you post in the correct thread, somehow you managed to post this in the Perry Barr Garage thread, Winston
any new buses on the way yet Winston there should be b now
Quote from: STEVEN 33 on April 15, 2014, 10:49:53 AM
any new buses on the way yet Winston there should be b now
The first deliveries of new buses aren't due until June at the earliest and not aware of any currently being due at WN
Quote from: Winston on April 15, 2014, 11:02:02 AM
Quote from: STEVEN 33 on April 15, 2014, 10:49:53 AM
any new buses on the way yet Winston there should be b now
The first deliveries of new buses aren't due until June at the earliest and not aware of any currently being due at WN
According to BN at the bottom of page 6 ( http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=2616.msg89021#msg89021 ) WN isn't getting any new buses this year.
No it wasn't, its still here.
Spotted something rather interesting this evening....
4581 was pulling out of Wolverhampton Bus Station about 19:10 displaying '40-Walsall Via Willenhall' before changing to Not In Service.
Is there an explanation why the 40 is programmed into a WN bus?
Quote from: Nathan on April 15, 2014, 07:38:44 PM
Spotted something rather interesting this evening....
4581 was pulling out of Wolverhampton Bus Station about 19:10 displaying '40-Walsall Via Willenhall' before changing to Not In Service.
Is there an explanation why the 40 is programmed into a WN bus?
Probably the same reason why 51, X51, 997 and 934 are programmed into Perry Barr buses. If a vehicle is quickly needed due to breakdown, then Wolverhampton could cover it until Walsall could get another bus ready
Quote from: John on April 15, 2014, 08:28:04 PM
Quote from: Nathan on April 15, 2014, 07:38:44 PM
Spotted something rather interesting this evening....
4581 was pulling out of Wolverhampton Bus Station about 19:10 displaying '40-Walsall Via Willenhall' before changing to Not In Service.
Is there an explanation why the 40 is programmed into a WN bus?
Probably the same reason why 51, X51, 997 and 934 are programmed into Perry Barr buses. If a vehicle is quickly needed due to breakdown, then Wolverhampton could cover it until Walsall could get another bus ready
That was one of the things that sprung to mind. One explanation I also had was during the 26th Jan changes (When the 40 was changed to serve Portobello), NX/Centro and a local MP did a Publicity Launch which used a WN B7 so they have programmed it into WN's black box for that? (4581 was on 32's/3's today so was most likely midway through changing it to NIS)
He's the article with a WN B7 promoting WA's 40 route:
http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/news/mp-welcomes-new-bus-route-after-community-campaign/
Quote from: John on April 15, 2014, 08:28:04 PM
Quote from: Nathan on April 15, 2014, 07:38:44 PM
Spotted something rather interesting this evening....
4581 was pulling out of Wolverhampton Bus Station about 19:10 displaying '40-Walsall Via Willenhall' before changing to Not In Service.
Is there an explanation why the 40 is programmed into a WN bus?
Probably the same reason why 51, X51, 997 and 934 are programmed into Perry Barr buses. If a vehicle is quickly needed due to breakdown, then Wolverhampton could cover it until Walsall could get another bus ready
I wonder if it has the 41 on there as well then! In theory, the bus would do a round trip on the 41, before returning back to Wolves!
I've no reason to suggest why they would, but I wonder if it at some point in the future WN may end up operating the 8/89, 40/41 or 69 services, like how the 333 & 560 swapped garages a few times.
Trident on WN6 today so I'm told
Also spotted 4607 on Farmdale Estate at around 1pm NIS
Just seen theses but they don't fit in the noteworthy workings.
4313 on the 82.
2003 on the 81.
Quote from: NXDom on April 18, 2014, 01:42:17 PM
Just seen theses but they don't fit in the noteworthy workings.
4313 on the 82.
2003 on the 81.
4312 is on the 82 aswell today along with 4561 and 4590
4314 has made it back into B'ham on the 126
Quote from: Nathan on April 18, 2014, 04:41:04 PM
Quote from: NXDom on April 18, 2014, 01:42:17 PM
Just seen theses but they don't fit in the noteworthy workings.
4313 on the 82.
2003 on the 81.
4312 is on the 82 aswell today along with 4561 and 4590
4314 has made it back into B'ham on the 126
The amount of tridents on the 82 in the last few days has rocketed up
Not sure where to post this but as it's related to WN27 i'll post it here. i've had a newspaper through the door today from Ian Austin (Labour, Dudley North) according to a page inside they are working with residents to improve local bus services. 'Helping to enhance bus routes including the 22 & 27' anyone know anything about this ?
I'm guessing this is just new bus shelters
Ian Austin, he's the one with the passing resemblance to Chris Evans isn't he?
Quote from: Westy on April 19, 2014, 12:27:37 PM
Ian Austin, he's the one with the passing resemblance to Chris Evans isn't he?
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yeah, that's the one http://i3.birminghammail.co.uk/incoming/article2061679.ece/alternates/s2197/Labour-Dudley-North-MP-Ian-Austin.jpg
Quote from: Andrew on April 19, 2014, 11:19:28 AM
Not sure where to post this but as it's related to WN27 i'll post it here. i've had a newspaper through the door today from Ian Austin (Labour, Dudley North) according to a page inside they are working with residents to improve local bus services. 'Helping to enhance bus routes including the 22 & 27' anyone know anything about this ?
I'm guessing this is just new bus shelters
As in Arriva 22 and what other routes are mentioned? If any that is.
Also to add 2011 is on the 81 today for anyone interested.
Quote from: NXDom on April 19, 2014, 04:44:35 PM
Quote from: Andrew on April 19, 2014, 11:19:28 AM
Not sure where to post this but as it's related to WN27 i'll post it here. i've had a newspaper through the door today from Ian Austin (Labour, Dudley North) according to a page inside they are working with residents to improve local bus services. 'Helping to enhance bus routes including the 22 & 27' anyone know anything about this ?
I'm guessing this is just new bus shelters
As in Arriva 22 and what other routes are mentioned? If any that is.
Also to add 2011 is on the 81 today for anyone interested.
What can you do with thew Arriva 22 except withdraw it, travelled on it all the way from Oldbury a while ago and we never picked one passenger until the outskirts of Wolverhampton.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 19, 2014, 06:12:50 PM
Quote from: NXDom on April 19, 2014, 04:44:35 PM
Quote from: Andrew on April 19, 2014, 11:19:28 AM
Not sure where to post this but as it's related to WN27 i'll post it here. i've had a newspaper through the door today from Ian Austin (Labour, Dudley North) according to a page inside they are working with residents to improve local bus services. 'Helping to enhance bus routes including the 22 & 27' anyone know anything about this ?
I'm guessing this is just new bus shelters
As in Arriva 22 and what other routes are mentioned? If any that is.
Also to add 2011 is on the 81 today for anyone interested.
What can you do with thew Arriva 22 except withdraw it, travelled on it all the way from Oldbury a while ago and we never picked one passenger until the outskirts of Wolverhampton.
Yeah I live on the route and it is ALWAYS empty except for a rare occasion.
Quote from: NXDom on April 19, 2014, 04:44:35 PM
Quote from: Andrew on April 19, 2014, 11:19:28 AM
Not sure where to post this but as it's related to WN27 i'll post it here. i've had a newspaper through the door today from Ian Austin (Labour, Dudley North) according to a page inside they are working with residents to improve local bus services. 'Helping to enhance bus routes including the 22 & 27' anyone know anything about this ?
I'm guessing this is just new bus shelters
As in Arriva 22 and what other routes are mentioned? If any that is.
Also to add 2011 is on the 81 today for anyone interested.
Only the 22 & 27 are mentioned sorry
Does anybody know which B6LE worked the 2250 27 from Dudley last night? It was too dark for me to see
Quote from: Ashley on April 20, 2014, 02:24:55 PM
Does anybody know which B6LE worked the 2250 27 from Dudley last night? It was too dark for me to see
600
Quote from: Tony on April 20, 2014, 02:42:06 PM
Quote from: Ashley on April 20, 2014, 02:24:55 PM
Does anybody know which B6LE worked the 2250 27 from Dudley last night? It was too dark for me to see
600
Thanks Tony
632 was today's 62 Incase of interest to anybody. Personally I haven't seen the 6**'s on a Sunday (service) 62 in a while
4549 was on the 79 (32/3's as well due to interworking) this morning but saw it on Penn Rd this afternoon on a 256
5510 should be back on the road Friday after a month off the road.
4571 should be out nice and shiny tomorrow also.
Quote from: BN on April 24, 2014, 05:17:15 PM
5510 should be back on the road Friday after a month off the road.
4571 should be out nice and shiny tomorrow also.
Will it be out on the 126? :)
where has 5510 been hiding?
4571 was on the 79 today, would have done the 17.46 journey from WB
Quote from: uniquicity on April 25, 2014, 06:04:09 PM
4571 was on the 79 today, would have done the 17.46 journey from WB
Wasn't out this morning i'm told so must have been put out this afternoon? Thanks for that Info :)
Only two B5's on WN59 (Usually atleast 4) with 4 tridents being on there.
The 62 was diverted today due to Road Resurfacing works Diversion was right at the Rock then left into Tettenhall Village down Wood Rd then left into the Holloway down to Compton Square then right to Normal line of route. Reverse in opposite direction.
Sticking with the 62 there were several Centro Employee's riding the route at various points during the day (There was a man on one trip and a Woman on another trip) observing Passenger numbers/Types of pass used by passenger/Where they got on and off etc. I presume they are looking to see which tendered routes should be kept with these budget cuts happening?
The 62 isn't a tendered service though. 586 was today's vehicle and the diversion had gone by the time I caught the 1730 off town
Sticking with B6's, has 598 been withdrawn and have 639/662 been repaired yet?
Quote from: Ashley on April 27, 2014, 10:50:32 PM
The 62 isn't a tendered service though. 586 was today's vehicle and the diversion had gone by the time I caught the 1730 off town
Sticking with B6's, has 598 been withdrawn and have 639/662 been repaired yet?
I thought, when NWM did the consultation that the WN62 was a tendered service "Daytime Service Daily"
I have a copy of the list NWM had on their site of which services were subsidised (https://db.tt/h3EWQ65W) (correct as at NOV 2013). When I next get on my laptop I will update it with tender renewed dates as and when I know them.
Well if it's on a Centro list then it must be tendered. I just thought that wasn't the case. My understanding is that TWM took over the 682 in old money from Zak's in 2002 or 2003 under a 10 year contract from Centro which has been extended until this September to determine whether the current format of the 62/62A is financially viable. No it doesn't make mega bucks but i's socially necessary which is why I personally don't want to see it cut.
Quote from: Nathan on April 27, 2014, 10:18:41 PM
Only two B5's on WN59 (Usually atleast 4) with 4 tridents being on there.
The 62 was diverted today due to Road Resurfacing works Diversion was right at the Rock then left into Tettenhall Village down Wood Rd then left into the Holloway down to Compton Square then right to Normal line of route. Reverse in opposite direction.
Sticking with the 62 there were several Centro Employee's riding the route at various points during the day (There was a man on one trip and a Woman on another trip) observing Passenger numbers/Types of pass used by passenger/Where they got on and off etc. I presume they are looking to see which tendered routes should be kept with these budget cuts happening?
There was a guy from NX doing that a few sundays ago on the 27
Quote from: Ashley on April 27, 2014, 10:50:32 PM
The 62 isn't a tendered service though. 586 was today's vehicle and the diversion had gone by the time I caught the 1730 off town
Sticking with B6's, has 598 been withdrawn and have 639/662 been repaired yet?
Last time I saw 598 was on 12th April, I did wonder where was 598 - hope it will be back in service soon. What happened to 639 and 662, have I missed something?
4571 is todays trident on the 3 (board 3/07) if anyone is remotley interested?
1 branded 5515 was in the bus station at Lunchtime although i think it went back onto 1's
4310 is on the 82 today, Didn't think that was a wn bus.
I think 4310 has been here for over a month now.
I just hadn't seen it thought it was only 4311,12,13,14.
Quote from: NXDom on April 28, 2014, 04:18:10 PM
4310 is on the 82 today, Didn't think that was a wn bus.
4310-14 are all here Dom. 4310-13 have been here since earlier in the year
Quote from: P419 EJW on April 28, 2014, 02:11:32 PM
Quote from: Ashley on April 27, 2014, 10:50:32 PM
The 62 isn't a tendered service though. 586 was today's vehicle and the diversion had gone by the time I caught the 1730 off town
Sticking with B6's, has 598 been withdrawn and have 639/662 been repaired yet?
Last time I saw 598 was on 12th April, I did wonder where was 598 - hope it will be back in service soon. What happened to 639 and 662, have I missed something?
639 and 662 have been off the road for repair but for a number of weeks. I believe 598 has been withdrawn with a worn diff but I asked in case somebody knew definates.
4571 is looking good on the 3's today
5515 ran private to Dudley along the Birmingham New Road at around 1230pm. I was on 4562 on the 126 and we followed it for a distance
Quote from: Nathan on April 28, 2014, 05:03:39 PM
Quote from: NXDom on April 28, 2014, 04:18:10 PM
4310 is on the 82 today, Didn't think that was a wn bus.
4310-14 are all here Dom. 4310-13 have been here since earlier in the year
According to the main site, 4310 has been at WN since 11/13.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 28, 2014, 06:55:07 PM
Quote from: Nathan on April 28, 2014, 05:03:39 PM
Quote from: NXDom on April 28, 2014, 04:18:10 PM
4310 is on the 82 today, Didn't think that was a wn bus.
4310-14 are all here Dom. 4310-13 have been here since earlier in the year
According to the main site, 4310 has been at WN since 11/13.
Sorry it is that long ago since it transfered! I suppose it was in for refurb for a while having work done
662 is back in service, saw it on 59, arriving in Wolverhampton Bus Station at 11:55.
Quote from: P419 EJW on April 29, 2014, 11:58:20 AM
662 is back in service, saw it on 59, arriving in Wolverhampton Bus Station at 11:55.
Seen it various times today. Also 4002 was on a peak 59 working this morning although i'm sure it is now on a daytime board
Quote from: Ashley on April 28, 2014, 05:06:48 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on April 28, 2014, 02:11:32 PM
Quote from: Ashley on April 27, 2014, 10:50:32 PM
The 62 isn't a tendered service though. 586 was today's vehicle and the diversion had gone by the time I caught the 1730 off town
Sticking with B6's, has 598 been withdrawn and have 639/662 been repaired yet?
Last time I saw 598 was on 12th April, I did wonder where was 598 - hope it will be back in service soon. What happened to 639 and 662, have I missed something?
639 and 662 have been off the road for repair but for a number of weeks. I believe 598 has been withdrawn with a worn diff but I asked in case somebody knew definates.
Just saw 598 on 59E to Ashmore Park - so 598 is not withdrawn. :)
That will be the bus on afternoon peak board (out of garage 15:1*) 59/14 :)
i thought it was 554 that had been withdrawn
Quote from: mranon on April 29, 2014, 07:12:17 PM
i thought it was 554 that had been withdrawn
It has. But 598 has been out of action for a while along with a 63*,662,4002,4016 and 5510.
Glad to hear 598 is back, 554 is parked in PL with a big chunk of the front missing, one part I know to be removed is the "air-dryer" if that is actually a part and not me being thick again, fair bit of trim could be taken out of it as well. 662 was on its first day back on the road today, was noted on the 59 as has been said but wound up on 28's. 639 has been off the road a while now joined by 632 with a faulty step lowering mechanism (step kept raising and lowering whilst vehicle was in motion). I did also see 4002 out today. 640 and 4021 amongst today's breakdowns.
EDIT - Just read in a different thread that 632 was back in traffic and 662 was not on the 28 so apologies for being "thick" lol
4002 is out late night 59's tonight :) Although its usually should be Tridents (And any hybrids that appear) confined to late night boards i'm glad 4002 is on there :) A fast bus indeed, One of the finest at WN i must say :)
4002 was changed for 4567 on board 59/11 this evening.
an air dryer is a part. it is supposed to remove moisture from the air via filters. (usually spin off which can be changed). it also incorporates an exhauster valve, which blows out excess air once air system is fully charged.
Something I forgot to post last week- 2018 now has a Mega Rear advert (Something to do with Skegness) applied.
Its either just unfortunate timing by Tony or has 1650 been looking rather scruffy for nearly 5 years? Peeling paint and advertising, what a mess!
1650 may look abit scruffy but it's one of the better ones that remain
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on May 05, 2014, 10:35:10 PM
Its either just unfortunate timing by Tony or has 1650 been looking rather scruffy for nearly 5 years? Peeling paint and advertising, what a mess!
The reason for the new photo was it is the first one I have of it with the current fleet names on. The paintwork doesn't llook that bad for how old it is, what is noticable though is the last three photos all have different adverts on, but none of them are sticking properly which is one of the reasons it looks tatty.
I reckon the paintwork is now 10 years old. The bottom photo shows it outside Walsall paintshop which is when I reckon it was last done.
Quote from: Tony on May 06, 2014, 09:05:30 AM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on May 05, 2014, 10:35:10 PM
Its either just unfortunate timing by Tony or has 1650 been looking rather scruffy for nearly 5 years? Peeling paint and advertising, what a mess!
The reason for the new photo was it is the first one I have of it with the current fleet names on. The paintwork doesn't llook that bad for how old it is, what is noticable though is the last three photos all have different adverts on, but none of them are sticking properly which is one of the reasons it looks tatty.
I reckon the paintwork is now 10 years old. The bottom photo shows it outside Walsall paintshop which is when I reckon it was last done.
Ironically looking at it, where the latest pic was took was the same place as where pic no 3 (the 2011 one!)
A very interesting day at WN today:
4021 was on the 126 before going onto the 2
634 is on the 79
And now 638 is on the 79!
633 is on a daytime 59 board too.
According to the inspector he had to take off several buses (4589 off the 59 although its back on here now) and put them onto Schools as there were no buses avaliable. 4547 was on the 59 (Late night board 59/05) but is now on 529's (It may have done a school aswell i think)
59/14 missed its first trip then appeared on its second departure from W'ton. Bus is 508.
Quote from: Nathan on May 06, 2014, 05:31:25 PM
A very interesting day at WN today:
One of the inspectors told me he took 3 Spectra's off the 126! As Tony said 4021 was taken off and put onto the 2.
Also 634 was on the 126 then moved onto the 79! with 4538 coming off the 79 and going onto the 126 in 634's place.
And now 638 is on the 79!
633 is on a daytime 59 board too.
According to the inspector he had to take off several buses (4589 off the 59 although its back on here now) and put them onto Schools as there were no buses avaliable. 4547 was on the 59 (Late night board 59/05) but is now on 529's (It may have done a school aswell i think)
59/14 missed its first trip then appeared on its second departure from W'ton. Bus is 508.
See my notes in unusual workings thread. 634 was not on the 126 before the 79, and there were not 3 Spectras on the 126, just 4021 doing one Birmingham to Wolverhampton journey. Vehicles may have been on the allocation sheet, but it doesn't mean they operated on there
638 was on 82/05
Quote from: NXDom on May 07, 2014, 06:11:27 PM
638 was on 82/05
If you are refering to yestetday then as i said it moved to the 79.
Quote from: Nathan on May 07, 2014, 06:36:13 PM
Quote from: NXDom on May 07, 2014, 06:11:27 PM
638 was on 82/05
If you are refering to yestetday then as i said it moved to the 79.
I think Dom meant 638 was on 82/05 on wednesday as before being placed on the 79 on tuesday it was on 62's
In other news...
Last night there were two Tridents on 25/27. The 19:30 ex Dudley is the normal one but 4581 appeared for the 2130 ex Dudley which is usually one of the three Merc journeys
Saw 4581 in Wednesfield High St on the 25C last night about 19:10
2026 on 126 at Bearwood at 10:10 heading towards Wolves.
4600 broke down at Willenhall with water leak.
4310 was on 82/02 today 2 tridents on that board 2 days in a row.
Quote from: NXDom on May 08, 2014, 08:28:02 PM
4310 was on 82/02 today 2 tridents on that board 2 days in a row.
Which board is usually allocated a Trident on the 82?
Quote from: Nathan on May 08, 2014, 09:42:00 PM
Quote from: NXDom on May 08, 2014, 08:28:02 PM
4310 was on 82/02 today 2 tridents on that board 2 days in a row.
Which board is usually allocated a Trident on the 82?
I don't think there are specific 82 Trident boards Nathan, they just appear at any time
Quote from: Ashley on May 08, 2014, 10:16:33 PM
Quote from: Nathan on May 08, 2014, 09:42:00 PM
Quote from: NXDom on May 08, 2014, 08:28:02 PM
4310 was on 82/02 today 2 tridents on that board 2 days in a row.
Which board is usually allocated a Trident on the 82?
I don't think there are specific 82 Trident boards Nathan, they just appear at any time
Cheers. Haven't paid attention to the 82 ever since it was rerouted through Horseley Fields and Deansfield
In other news there are 4 types of bus on WN59 tonight, A Trident (4579),A B5LH (5512), A Spectra (4008) and a 5 branded B7RLE (2060)
Quote from: Nathan on May 08, 2014, 10:23:40 PM
Quote from: Ashley on May 08, 2014, 10:16:33 PM
Quote from: Nathan on May 08, 2014, 09:42:00 PM
Quote from: NXDom on May 08, 2014, 08:28:02 PM
4310 was on 82/02 today 2 tridents on that board 2 days in a row.
Which board is usually allocated a Trident on the 82?
I don't think there are specific 82 Trident boards Nathan, they just appear at any time
Cheers. Haven't paid attention to the 82 ever since it was rerouted through Horseley Fields and Deansfield
In other news there are 4 types of bus on WN59 tonight, A Trident (4579),A B5LH (5512), A Spectra (4008) and a 5 branded B7RLE (2060)
Did use to be 82/06 but now there is one board that has to be a trident but its not a specific board and wed-fri it was 82/02. :)
Both peak boards on WN59 were operated by mercs this morning (1677 i think and 1674)
Also 4002 is on 59's today (Appearing quite regually on here). I think it may be on late night board 59/11 but cannot be sure. Will find out later
Will also find out what board 640 is on (On the 59)
Quote from: Nathan on May 12, 2014, 01:30:51 PM
Also 4002 is on 59's today (Appearing quite regually on here). I think it may be on late night board 59/11 but cannot be sure. Will find out later
Absolute beast of a bus 4002, I challenge all Spectra detractors to travel on it! Some might change their mind about the old warhorses after a thrash round the 59!
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on May 12, 2014, 02:09:56 PM
Quote from: Nathan on May 12, 2014, 01:30:51 PM
Also 4002 is on 59's today (Appearing quite regually on here). I think it may be on late night board 59/11 but cannot be sure. Will find out later
Absolute beast of a bus 4002, I challenge all Spectra detractors to travel on it! Some might change their mind about the old warhorses after a thrash round the 59!
I've had 4002 on a mega helfire thrash on the 59 many times (Once faster than a typical B'ham New Rd thrash on the 126). A very fast bus indeed! Tbh 4002 feels faster than alot of the tridents we have at WN. As you notice i usually moan when there is a Spectra on a late night 59 but i make an exception for 4002 (I hope it doesn't get swapped for a Trident this evening)
I was lucky last week as 4001 and 4002 were on the 59 alot
4572 back out I service today fresh from paint. 4560 has now joined 4558 and 4561 in repaint.
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on May 12, 2014, 02:09:56 PM
Quote from: Nathan on May 12, 2014, 01:30:51 PM
Also 4002 is on 59's today (Appearing quite regually on here). I think it may be on late night board 59/11 but cannot be sure. Will find out later
Absolute beast of a bus 4002, I challenge all Spectra detractors to travel on it! Some might change their mind about the old warhorses after a thrash round the 59!
DB250s in general seem faster than Tridents to me, it's just NX's except 4002 that are slow (I wonder why!), and even they are faster than a lot of ZF Tridents. TGBs are rockets, way faster than 4002 even, and Evergreen's are decent (although their ZF boxes slow them down)
Quote from: Matt on May 12, 2014, 05:12:57 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on May 12, 2014, 02:09:56 PM
Quote from: Nathan on May 12, 2014, 01:30:51 PM
Also 4002 is on 59's today (Appearing quite regually on here). I think it may be on late night board 59/11 but cannot be sure. Will find out later
Absolute beast of a bus 4002, I challenge all Spectra detractors to travel on it! Some might change their mind about the old warhorses after a thrash round the 59!
DB250s in general seem faster than Tridents to me, it's just NX's except 4002 that are slow (I wonder why!), and even they are faster than a lot of ZF Tridents. TGBs are rockets, way faster than 4002 even, and Evergreen's are decent (although their ZF boxes slow them down)
Well they do have bigger engines with more even power delivery. NX's none demo's are strangulated as per usual.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 12, 2014, 05:17:36 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 12, 2014, 05:12:57 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on May 12, 2014, 02:09:56 PM
Quote from: Nathan on May 12, 2014, 01:30:51 PM
Also 4002 is on 59's today (Appearing quite regually on here). I think it may be on late night board 59/11 but cannot be sure. Will find out later
Absolute beast of a bus 4002, I challenge all Spectra detractors to travel on it! Some might change their mind about the old warhorses after a thrash round the 59!
DB250s in general seem faster than Tridents to me, it's just NX's except 4002 that are slow (I wonder why!), and even they are faster than a lot of ZF Tridents. TGBs are rockets, way faster than 4002 even, and Evergreen's are decent (although their ZF boxes slow them down)
Well they do have bigger engines with more even power delivery. NX's none demo's are strangulated as per usual.
Haha, now why am I not surprised. Did you like driving the Spectras?
Well WN are supposedly short of tridents (Hence more Spectra's on the 59 today). Well they would be able to put tridents on the 59 (There are usually 7-8 most weekdays) if they wern't put on the 25A/C along with the 11/32/33! Not forgetting a Trident on the 2 and 4 today!
Quote from: Matt on May 12, 2014, 05:20:35 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 12, 2014, 05:17:36 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 12, 2014, 05:12:57 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on May 12, 2014, 02:09:56 PM
Quote from: Nathan on May 12, 2014, 01:30:51 PM
Also 4002 is on 59's today (Appearing quite regually on here). I think it may be on late night board 59/11 but cannot be sure. Will find out later
Absolute beast of a bus 4002, I challenge all Spectra detractors to travel on it! Some might change their mind about the old warhorses after a thrash round the 59!
DB250s in general seem faster than Tridents to me, it's just NX's except 4002 that are slow (I wonder why!), and even they are faster than a lot of ZF Tridents. TGBs are rockets, way faster than 4002 even, and Evergreen's are decent (although their ZF boxes slow them down)
Well they do have bigger engines with more even power delivery. NX's none demo's are strangulated as per usual.
Haha, now why am I not surprised. Did you like driving the Spectras?
I did. Really enjoyed them. Excellent cab and heating, drivers moaned about the brakes but I had no issues. They were quick when BC had them, I think they are 11.5litres of DAF extremeness! Excellent seating for passengers and easy to manoeuvre. A larger steering wheel makes it feel like you're driving something bigger and you can actually push-me-pull-me quite easily, just like a juggernaut.
i really cant see them being the 11.6 litre daf engine, as they have hardly any balls in them, unless they are really shut down on the pumps. however i realistically guess that they would more likely be the 8.25 litre daf lump.
Quote from: mranon on May 12, 2014, 09:43:45 PM
i really cant see them being the 11.6 litre daf engine, as they have hardly any balls in them, unless they are really shut down on the pumps. however i realistically guess that they would more likely be the 8.25 litre daf lump.
I'm sure it is the 11litre variety. That's what the mechanics at BC told me anyway. They were good when new as I remember them fondly. I'm still betting on 11litre one personally, but if you can give me proof then obviously I'm wrong ;)
NX's Spectras have the 8.6 litre engine, same as Green Bus' do.
Just noticed though, that according to the VRM lookup I use, 4001 (R1 NEG) has a different VIN number to that which Tony has on his fleetlist?
Enter a vehicle reg on this site for DVLA information (used to have to register to use it, but its open for all now)
http://www.juratek.com/applications.php
Quote from: Stu on May 13, 2014, 06:54:14 PM
NX's Spectras have the 8.6 litre engine, same as Green Bus' do.
Just noticed though, that according to the VRM lookup I use, 4001 (R1 NEG) has a different VIN number to that which Tony has on his fleetlist?
Enter a vehicle reg on this site for DVLA information (used to have to register to use it, but its open for all now)
http://www.juratek.com/applications.php (http://www.juratek.com/applications.php)
Still bigger engines than Tridents then
Quote from: Matt on May 13, 2014, 07:05:31 PM
Quote from: Stu on May 13, 2014, 06:54:14 PM
NX's Spectras have the 8.6 litre engine, same as Green Bus' do.
Just noticed though, that according to the VRM lookup I use, 4001 (R1 NEG) has a different VIN number to that which Tony has on his fleetlist?
Enter a vehicle reg on this site for DVLA information (used to have to register to use it, but its open for all now)
http://www.juratek.com/applications.php (http://www.juratek.com/applications.php)
Still bigger engines than Tridents then
Engine size doesn't mean anything really
You can buy a Volvo B9R coach with 380hp
You can buy a Volvo B11R coach with 380hp
Both from the same manufacturer, one has a 2 litre bigger engine, but producing the same horsepower.
From what I can see on the internet, the DAF 1160 engine produces about 250hp Different websites quote different figures, but all around the 250hp mark
The Cummins engine in Tridents produces over 300hp
Quote from: Tony on May 13, 2014, 07:22:41 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 13, 2014, 07:05:31 PM
Quote from: Stu on May 13, 2014, 06:54:14 PM
NX's Spectras have the 8.6 litre engine, same as Green Bus' do.
Just noticed though, that according to the VRM lookup I use, 4001 (R1 NEG) has a different VIN number to that which Tony has on his fleetlist?
Enter a vehicle reg on this site for DVLA information (used to have to register to use it, but its open for all now)
http://www.juratek.com/applications.php (http://www.juratek.com/applications.php)
Still bigger engines than Tridents then
Engine size doesn't mean anything really
You can buy a Volvo B9R coach with 380hp
You can buy a Volvo B11R coach with 380hp
Both from the same manufacturer, one has a 2 litre bigger engine, but producing the same horsepower.
From what I can see on the internet, the DAF 1160 engine produces about 250hp Different websites quote different figures, but all around the 250hp mark
The Cummins engine in Tridents produces over 300hp
So it begs the question, why are TGB's Spectras so much faster than NX's? As engine size and horsepower are the same in both.
Because TGBs drivers are more inclined to drive them faster, or 'thrash' them as you like to put it? ;D
I'm sure I've stated this before, but a bus will go as fast as the driver wants it to go. I've travelled on a TGB Trident on the 22 with the driver pushing it as fast as it will go, and I've been on a late running Trident on the NXWM 900 to Coventry. If the driver puts his foot down where they can, the bus will seem to fly, compared to when driven by a driver who takes it easy.
(I'm also resisting the temptation to make a crack about the 'weight' of a bus making a difference; an empty bus can travel faster than a fully laden one lol, but that would just be childish! :P)
Quote from: Stu on May 13, 2014, 09:01:39 PM
Because TGBs drivers are more inclined to drive them faster, or 'thrash' them as you like to put it? ;D
I'm sure I've stated this before, but a bus will go as fast as the driver wants it to go. I've travelled on a TGB Trident on the 22 with the driver pushing it as fast as it will go, and I've been on a late running Trident on the NXWM 900 to Coventry. If the driver puts his foot down where they can, the bus will seem to fly, compared to when driven by a driver who takes it easy.
(I'm also resisting the temptation to make a crack about the 'weight' of a bus making a difference; an empty bus can travel faster than a fully laden one lol, but that would just be childish! :P )
No, most 22 drivers take their time. I'm surprised you got one with a lead footed driver.
The driver controls how fast the bus goes? Really? I thought the bus decided. (!) ...that doesn't answer my question, although suffice to say I think I already know why they're faster - just wanted to see what others thought!
You are right though, the load of the bus can make a big difference. Imagine an 18 tonne double decker with 100 passengers on board (so a good 20-30 standees, not an uncommon sight). The average weight of each passenger might be 75kg. 75kg X 100 passengers = 7.5 tonnes, so an 18 tonne bus suddenly becomes a 25.5 tonne bus.
other operators spectras/ or dafdb250s seem to pull away quicker than nxwms. this makes me think that nxwm have shut the pumps down to save fuel
Quote from: Matt on May 13, 2014, 09:22:12 PM
Quote from: Stu on May 13, 2014, 09:01:39 PM
Because TGBs drivers are more inclined to drive them faster, or 'thrash' them as you like to put it? ;D
I'm sure I've stated this before, but a bus will go as fast as the driver wants it to go. I've travelled on a TGB Trident on the 22 with the driver pushing it as fast as it will go, and I've been on a late running Trident on the NXWM 900 to Coventry. If the driver puts his foot down where they can, the bus will seem to fly, compared to when driven by a driver who takes it easy.
(I'm also resisting the temptation to make a crack about the 'weight' of a bus making a difference; an empty bus can travel faster than a fully laden one lol, but that would just be childish! :P )
No, most 22 drivers take their time. I'm surprised you got one with a lead footed driver.
The driver controls how fast the bus goes? Really? I thought the bus decided. (!) ...that doesn't answer my question, although suffice to say I think I already know why they're faster - just wanted to see what others thought!
You are right though, the load of the bus can make a big difference. Imagine an 18 tonne double decker with 100 passengers on board (so a good 20-30 standees, not an uncommon sight). The average weight of each passenger might be 75kg. 75kg X 100 passengers = 7.5 tonnes, so an 18 tonne bus suddenly becomes a 25.5 tonne bus.
The first time i went on the 22 from Merry Hill To City, we left MH at 09:54 and arrived at Town Hall at 10:46 which included 7 minutes between MH and Colley Gate. Yes a lack of passengers were a help, but the driver did put his foot to the floor a lot.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 13, 2014, 10:07:29 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 13, 2014, 09:22:12 PM
Quote from: Stu on May 13, 2014, 09:01:39 PM
Because TGBs drivers are more inclined to drive them faster, or 'thrash' them as you like to put it? ;D
I'm sure I've stated this before, but a bus will go as fast as the driver wants it to go. I've travelled on a TGB Trident on the 22 with the driver pushing it as fast as it will go, and I've been on a late running Trident on the NXWM 900 to Coventry. If the driver puts his foot down where they can, the bus will seem to fly, compared to when driven by a driver who takes it easy.
(I'm also resisting the temptation to make a crack about the 'weight' of a bus making a difference; an empty bus can travel faster than a fully laden one lol, but that would just be childish! :P )
No, most 22 drivers take their time. I'm surprised you got one with a lead footed driver.
The driver controls how fast the bus goes? Really? I thought the bus decided. (!) ...that doesn't answer my question, although suffice to say I think I already know why they're faster - just wanted to see what others thought!
You are right though, the load of the bus can make a big difference. Imagine an 18 tonne double decker with 100 passengers on board (so a good 20-30 standees, not an uncommon sight). The average weight of each passenger might be 75kg. 75kg X 100 passengers = 7.5 tonnes, so an 18 tonne bus suddenly becomes a 25.5 tonne bus.
The first time i went on the 22 from Merry Hill To City, we left MH at 09:54 and arrived at Town Hall at 10:46 which included 7 minutes between MH and Colley Gate. Yes a lack of passengers were a help, but the driver did put his foot to the floor a lot.
That's not good, it was only due in Harborne at 10:44. The driver should not leave timing points early. Let me know if this happens again
Quote from: Matt on May 13, 2014, 10:10:48 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 13, 2014, 10:07:29 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 13, 2014, 09:22:12 PM
Quote from: Stu on May 13, 2014, 09:01:39 PM
Because TGBs drivers are more inclined to drive them faster, or 'thrash' them as you like to put it? ;D
I'm sure I've stated this before, but a bus will go as fast as the driver wants it to go. I've travelled on a TGB Trident on the 22 with the driver pushing it as fast as it will go, and I've been on a late running Trident on the NXWM 900 to Coventry. If the driver puts his foot down where they can, the bus will seem to fly, compared to when driven by a driver who takes it easy.
(I'm also resisting the temptation to make a crack about the 'weight' of a bus making a difference; an empty bus can travel faster than a fully laden one lol, but that would just be childish! :P )
No, most 22 drivers take their time. I'm surprised you got one with a lead footed driver.
The driver controls how fast the bus goes? Really? I thought the bus decided. (!) ...that doesn't answer my question, although suffice to say I think I already know why they're faster - just wanted to see what others thought!
You are right though, the load of the bus can make a big difference. Imagine an 18 tonne double decker with 100 passengers on board (so a good 20-30 standees, not an uncommon sight). The average weight of each passenger might be 75kg. 75kg X 100 passengers = 7.5 tonnes, so an 18 tonne bus suddenly becomes a 25.5 tonne bus.
The first time i went on the 22 from Merry Hill To City, we left MH at 09:54 and arrived at Town Hall at 10:46 which included 7 minutes between MH and Colley Gate. Yes a lack of passengers were a help, but the driver did put his foot to the floor a lot.
That's not good, it was only due in Harborne at 10:44. The driver should not leave timing points early. Let me know if this happens again
This was early March with Trident 115, have to say i haven't seen the driver since!
Anyway back to WN Garage related posts......
Has anybody seen 4572 back in service yet? If so could you let me know thanks :)
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 13, 2014, 10:20:49 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 13, 2014, 10:10:48 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 13, 2014, 10:07:29 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 13, 2014, 09:22:12 PM
Quote from: Stu on May 13, 2014, 09:01:39 PM
Because TGBs drivers are more inclined to drive them faster, or 'thrash' them as you like to put it? ;D
I'm sure I've stated this before, but a bus will go as fast as the driver wants it to go. I've travelled on a TGB Trident on the 22 with the driver pushing it as fast as it will go, and I've been on a late running Trident on the NXWM 900 to Coventry. If the driver puts his foot down where they can, the bus will seem to fly, compared to when driven by a driver who takes it easy.
(I'm also resisting the temptation to make a crack about the 'weight' of a bus making a difference; an empty bus can travel faster than a fully laden one lol, but that would just be childish! :P )
No, most 22 drivers take their time. I'm surprised you got one with a lead footed driver.
The driver controls how fast the bus goes? Really? I thought the bus decided. (!) ...that doesn't answer my question, although suffice to say I think I already know why they're faster - just wanted to see what others thought!
You are right though, the load of the bus can make a big difference. Imagine an 18 tonne double decker with 100 passengers on board (so a good 20-30 standees, not an uncommon sight). The average weight of each passenger might be 75kg. 75kg X 100 passengers = 7.5 tonnes, so an 18 tonne bus suddenly becomes a 25.5 tonne bus.
The first time i went on the 22 from Merry Hill To City, we left MH at 09:54 and arrived at Town Hall at 10:46 which included 7 minutes between MH and Colley Gate. Yes a lack of passengers were a help, but the driver did put his foot to the floor a lot.
That's not good, it was only due in Harborne at 10:44. The driver should not leave timing points early. Let me know if this happens again
This was early March with Trident 115, have to say i haven't seen the driver since!
Think that answers my unasked question then, cheers Stu.
Quote from: Nathan on May 13, 2014, 10:23:27 PM
Anyway back to WN Garage related posts......
Has anybody seen 4572 back in service yet? If so could you let me know thanks :)
It's been on the 255 today (1130 from Merry Hill), so it should have ended up on the 1705 256 from WN and 1825 257 from Stourbridge to Dudley.
Quote from: Roy on May 13, 2014, 10:39:23 PM
Quote from: Nathan on May 13, 2014, 10:23:27 PM
Anyway back to WN Garage related posts......
Has anybody seen 4572 back in service yet? If so could you let me know thanks :)
It's been on the 255 today (1130 from Merry Hill), so it should have ended up on the 1705 256 from WN and 1825 257 from Stourbridge to Dudley.
Cheers Roy :) I've been at home ill today so haven't been able to go out this afternoon to see where it was ;)
Quote from: Matt on May 13, 2014, 09:22:12 PM
Quote from: Stu on May 13, 2014, 09:01:39 PM
Because TGBs drivers are more inclined to drive them faster, or 'thrash' them as you like to put it? ;D
I'm sure I've stated this before, but a bus will go as fast as the driver wants it to go. I've travelled on a TGB Trident on the 22 with the driver pushing it as fast as it will go, and I've been on a late running Trident on the NXWM 900 to Coventry. If the driver puts his foot down where they can, the bus will seem to fly, compared to when driven by a driver who takes it easy.
(I'm also resisting the temptation to make a crack about the 'weight' of a bus making a difference; an empty bus can travel faster than a fully laden one lol, but that would just be childish! :P )
No, most 22 drivers take their time. I'm surprised you got one with a lead footed driver.
The driver controls how fast the bus goes? Really? I thought the bus decided. (!) ...that doesn't answer my question, although suffice to say I think I already know why they're faster - just wanted to see what others thought!
You are right though, the load of the bus can make a big difference. Imagine an 18 tonne double decker with 100 passengers on board (so a good 20-30 standees, not an uncommon sight). The average weight of each passenger might be 75kg. 75kg X 100 passengers = 7.5 tonnes, so an 18 tonne bus suddenly becomes a 25.5 tonne bus.
Possibly talking out of turn but here goes, Matt is there any need to be so rude he is just stating a fact which relates to your post.
Quote from: NXDom on May 14, 2014, 04:37:54 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 13, 2014, 09:22:12 PM
Quote from: Stu on May 13, 2014, 09:01:39 PM
Because TGBs drivers are more inclined to drive them faster, or 'thrash' them as you like to put it? ;D
I'm sure I've stated this before, but a bus will go as fast as the driver wants it to go. I've travelled on a TGB Trident on the 22 with the driver pushing it as fast as it will go, and I've been on a late running Trident on the NXWM 900 to Coventry. If the driver puts his foot down where they can, the bus will seem to fly, compared to when driven by a driver who takes it easy.
(I'm also resisting the temptation to make a crack about the 'weight' of a bus making a difference; an empty bus can travel faster than a fully laden one lol, but that would just be childish! :P )
No, most 22 drivers take their time. I'm surprised you got one with a lead footed driver.
The driver controls how fast the bus goes? Really? I thought the bus decided. (!) ...that doesn't answer my question, although suffice to say I think I already know why they're faster - just wanted to see what others thought!
You are right though, the load of the bus can make a big difference. Imagine an 18 tonne double decker with 100 passengers on board (so a good 20-30 standees, not an uncommon sight). The average weight of each passenger might be 75kg. 75kg X 100 passengers = 7.5 tonnes, so an 18 tonne bus suddenly becomes a 25.5 tonne bus.
Possibly talking out of turn but here goes, Matt is there any need to be so rude he is just stating a fact which relates to your post.
Dom, think before you post.
Quote from: NXDom on May 14, 2014, 04:37:54 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 13, 2014, 09:22:12 PM
Quote from: Stu on May 13, 2014, 09:01:39 PM
Because TGBs drivers are more inclined to drive them faster, or 'thrash' them as you like to put it? ;D
I'm sure I've stated this before, but a bus will go as fast as the driver wants it to go. I've travelled on a TGB Trident on the 22 with the driver pushing it as fast as it will go, and I've been on a late running Trident on the NXWM 900 to Coventry. If the driver puts his foot down where they can, the bus will seem to fly, compared to when driven by a driver who takes it easy.
(I'm also resisting the temptation to make a crack about the 'weight' of a bus making a difference; an empty bus can travel faster than a fully laden one lol, but that would just be childish! :P )
No, most 22 drivers take their time. I'm surprised you got one with a lead footed driver.
The driver controls how fast the bus goes? Really? I thought the bus decided. (!) ...that doesn't answer my question, although suffice to say I think I already know why they're faster - just wanted to see what others thought!
You are right though, the load of the bus can make a big difference. Imagine an 18 tonne double decker with 100 passengers on board (so a good 20-30 standees, not an uncommon sight). The average weight of each passenger might be 75kg. 75kg X 100 passengers = 7.5 tonnes, so an 18 tonne bus suddenly becomes a 25.5 tonne bus.
Possibly talking out of turn but here goes, Matt is there any need to be so rude he is just stating a fact which relates to your post.
I could have sworn that this thread was titled "Wolverhampton Garage".
Ooop, Sorry, Didn't realise we were ALL moderators on this thread? .........
There's a bus missing on WN59 this evening (bus on board 59/02). There's at least a 24 minute gap between 4578 and 4556 (The missing bus should be between these two)
4021 on 255e going up rangeways road, off route !!!
@bususer12 only a tiny bit off route...
@the trainbasher , was fun to see a double decker go along the bumps in that road though. First time i've seen a decker in service down there since there was metros on the 264/265. You see the odd enviro on the staff bus rarely.
Quote from: bususer12 on May 17, 2014, 12:41:36 AM
@the trainbasher , was fun to see a double decker go along the bumps in that road though. First time i've seen a decker in service down there since there was metros on the 264/265. You see the odd enviro on the staff bus rarely.
I bet it was. The metros on the 264/265 from MH only feel like yesterday!
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 14, 2014, 04:47:07 PM
Ooop, Sorry, Didn't realise we were ALL moderators on this thread? .........
Apparently on Wednesdays only ;D
Quote from: mranon on May 13, 2014, 09:26:59 PM
other operators spectras/ or dafdb250s seem to pull away quicker than nxwms. this makes me think that nxwm have shut the pumps down to save fuel
I agree - some seem very quick - the Arriva Southern Counties 6238 - 6241 batch seem v quick (and the Olympus bodies are rattle free also which adds to the effect). That said I went on one of their 101 express Enviros the other day and that seemed v powerful also. In days of old operators running inter urban services were able to spec different levels of engine governance and rear axle ratios to allow higher speed running - does this still happen?
Apologies for off - topic. It's all Wolverhamton garages garages fault for having the Spectras!!
4016 out on the 25A/C today. I think it was VOR for a while (haven't seen it in a long while)
Also does anybody know if 5510 is still off the road? Thanks :)
Quote from: Nathan on May 17, 2014, 05:21:25 PM
4016 out on the 25A/C today. I think it was VOR for a while (haven't seen it in a long while)
Also does anybody know if 5510 is still off the road? Thanks :)
4016 was on the 79 yesterday, and a school the day before, not missing
@Tony i haven't seen it in service for ages (Might have been put back out in service during the week) but it was definitely off the road for a bit
Yesterday 4604 (529 branded) went past Wednesfield High School and down Lake field Road about 3PM
And tonight 4018 is on WN59! Mega Rare for a Spectra to be on Saturday night 59's. Seen going through Heath Town towards Ashmore Park just after 10PM
Also 5511 is out on 59's tonight despite it not being on a late night board during the day (Driver said it replaced a overheated bus)
4016 spent a month off road to have work done
Quote from: Ashley on May 18, 2014, 11:30:44 AM
4016 spent a month off road to have work done
I've been told 4016 was off the road for two months.
And 5510 is still off the road to answer my own question
In other news 6 branded B7RLE 2076 was on Staff Bus duties this morning. Seen on Pipers Row about 09:20
Noticed on the 59 for the past 3 days no hybrids being allocated
Quote from: lynx1103 on May 21, 2014, 08:47:18 PM
Noticed on the 59 for the past 3 days no hybrids being allocated
Thats normal tbh. There is only usually one on there if there is a hybrid operating in the week.
There seems to a shortage of hybrids with a Spectra,Trident and B7RLE all on the 1 today.
Plus 5510 is away having work done
Yet again this afternoon a couple of buses missing after being taken off and a fairly big gap in service this afternoon (There was a least a 15-20 minute gap on there)
Quote
Plus 5510 is away having work done
Apologies if this has been posted previously but what's up with 5510?
I think its a wiring fault on the Hybrid side. Comes and goes so difficult to repair.
626 on the 82 window wipper come loose
Quote from: Mike K on May 22, 2014, 07:20:39 AM
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Plus 5510 is away having work done
Apologies if this has been posted previously but what's up with 5510?
Sorry i did forget to say its away at Volvo as BN said a fault on the hybrid side on things.
This may sound stupid but here goes,
Does the 25C/25A interwork?
Quote from: NXDom on May 22, 2014, 04:57:30 PM
This may sound stupid but here goes,
Does the 25C/25A interwork?
Yes they do. The 25A & 25C are not circulars as in the 11 sense. Both routes terminate at Wolverhampton and switch onto the other service. For instance, a journey from i54 - Goldthorn Park, is only possible the long way round, unless you change buses in Wolverhampton.
Quote from: NXDom on May 22, 2014, 04:57:30 PM
This may sound stupid but here goes,
Does the 25C/25A interwork?
Yes they do :)
They interwork as follows-
Mon-Sat
A bus will do a say 25C loop (So Stafford Rd-Bushbury Hill-Wednesfield-Willenhall-Bilston-Goldthorn Hill-Wolverhampton in this direction) then when it gets to Wolverhampton it changes to a 25A and then works the loop in the opposite direction (Wolverhampton-Goldthorn Hill-Bilston-Willenhall-Wednesfield-Bushbury Hill-Wobaston-Stafford Rd-W'ton)
And vice versa.
Evenings and Sundays
It does a 25C as far as Bilston where it terminates then changes to a 25A to go back to Wolverhampton in the opposite direction
Does this answer your question? :)
@Nathan yep brilliant cheers :D :D :D
Must say I had a REALLY nice driver this morning on 82/05 had a nice conversation, he said he knew every route operated by NXWM.
2066 > 126 seen around 08:30-08:40 heading for Brum while aboard 4559 heading in the opposite direction
4009 > 529 seen in Walsall around 13:45
Quote from: Rob on May 23, 2014, 08:12:06 PM
2066 > 126 seen around 08:30-08:40 heading for Brum while aboard 4559 heading in the opposite direction
4009 > 529 seen in Walsall around 13:45
4009 was reported on the 126 this morning so swapped onto the 529's
5512 on Rail Replacement duties today!
From my observation in the past the PB DP seated Omnilinks have been used.
Only one B5 on the 59 today so i wonder if 5511/5513 are also on rail replacement
5514 noted on rail replacement @ Wolverhampton Bus Station about 09:20
Anything other than Tridents on 255/256 today?
Quote from: Matt on May 27, 2014, 01:29:12 PM
Anything other than Tridents on 255/256 today?
Yes!
Quote from: Tony on May 27, 2014, 01:32:21 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 27, 2014, 01:29:12 PM
Anything other than Tridents on 255/256 today?
Yes!
Care to elaborate? I would like to do a trip on either of the routes this afternoon, but with something other than a Trident
The 255 is currently 8 Tridents (4312, 4541/49/55/57/74/78, 4608). I don't know what's on the 256/7. The 1620 255 from Wolverhampton is usually a decker from a school service but, as it's half term, anything could be used.
Quote from: Matt on May 27, 2014, 01:34:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 27, 2014, 01:32:21 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 27, 2014, 01:29:12 PM
Anything other than Tridents on 255/256 today?
Yes!
Care to elaborate? I would like to do a trip on either of the routes this afternoon, but with something other than a Trident
2010
Quote from: Nathan on May 27, 2014, 03:45:39 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 27, 2014, 01:34:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 27, 2014, 01:32:21 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 27, 2014, 01:29:12 PM
Anything other than Tridents on 255/256 today?
Yes!
Care to elaborate? I would like to do a trip on either of the routes this afternoon, but with something other than a Trident
2010
Never mind.
4595 and 4536 were on consecutive 82 departures from Wolverhampton yesterday morning.
I know there is one trident allocated in the week to cope with the schools/peak time but during the half term i have noticed a fair few tridents on the 82 (There was one day during Easter Half Term when there was atleast 3-4 Tridents). I rarely travel on the 82 so does it warrant all these tridents during half term when passenger numbers are lower/Less Traffic?
Quote from: Nathan on May 28, 2014, 10:02:24 AM
4595 and 4536 were on consecutive 82 departures from Wolverhampton yesterday morning.
I know there is one trident allocated in the week to cope with the schools/peak time but during the half term i have noticed a fair few tridents on the 82 (There was one day during Easter Half Term when there was atleast 3-4 Tridents). I rarely travel on the 82 so does it warrant all these tridents during half term when passenger numbers are lower/Less Traffic?
On journeys between about 9 and 11:30 it can do as you do get people standing on B6le's as well as there being pushchair turned down. The 82 had several tridents on yesterday for some unknown reason but overall this is what I think the 82 should be anyway.
I use the 82 a fair amount so my opinion would be the Trident/B6LE/Merc mix works well. Sometimes you think why are Tridents needed then you see a fully laden Merc and think yep that's logical. It's pretty much a rewind back to having Metros on 544 and 545's
633 is back in WN from BC, saw it on WN 11 in Wolverhampton Bus Station at 17:07.
633 been away to bc then?
Quote from: mranon on May 28, 2014, 07:57:42 PM
633 been away to bc then?
Yes. See quotes (link below) in BC thread. :)
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=1861.msg98048#msg98048
5510 now back in service after a couple of months away on the 59 today.
586 and 633 are on the 82 today.
4557 has finally gained an advert frame on the nearside. Was fitted overnight as it still didn't have a nearside ad frame fitted yesterday.
4012,4016 and 4595 all on the 25A/C today
5418 seemed to be struggling today coming up Wolverhampton road east in Sedgley
Due to Roadworks on Griffiths Drive in Ashmore Park,The 59 can't serve the full loop.
The diversion is from Griffiths Drive (Ashmore Inn Public House) is left at the mini roundabout (Like the 28 route) down Griffiths Drive to the Linthose Lane junction then round the island to go back up Griffiths Drive towards Ashmore Park then right onto Griffiths Drive (By the Shops) then left onto Peacock Avenue (Like the 28 route) back to normal line of route
4545 & 5511 both not in service facing each other in the middle of wolverhampton bus station.
Quote from: Andrew on June 08, 2014, 06:15:22 PM
4545 & 5511 both not in service facing each other in the middle of wolverhampton bus station.
Squaring up to each other?
Who'd win in a fight, a Trident or a B5???
Quote from: Andrew on June 08, 2014, 06:15:22 PM
4545 & 5511 both not in service facing each other in the middle of wolverhampton bus station.
4545 was drove into the middle by an engineer about 16:20. Engineer brought 4556 down to the station so it could take up duties on the 32/33/79.
2026 was parked up in the middle also when i was there.
Can anyone tell me what route 4546 went onto this morning please?
Quote from: Nathan on June 08, 2014, 12:15:19 PM
Due to Roadworks on Griffiths Drive in Ashmore Park,The 59 can't serve the full loop.
The diversion is from Griffiths Drive (Ashmore Inn Public House) is left at the mini roundabout (Like the 28 route) down Griffiths Drive to the Linthose Lane junction then round the island to go back up Griffiths Drive towards Ashmore Park then right onto Griffiths Drive (By the Shops) then left onto Peacock Avenue (Like the 28 route) back to normal line of route
I hear the diversion continued on Monday also
5513 passed me on the 59 a few minutws ago on the Lichfield Rd. Wasn't on a few hours ago. Think it replaced 4587
5418 cut out today on the crossings on grove street just before dudley road, the driver got it started again and around 5mins later a passenger came downstairs and told him the nearside lights had gone off and it smelt like burning rubber. The driver just carried on towards dudley, i personally didn't smell any burning smell while i was on the bus or when i got off.
Does anybody know what route 4313 was on today? I did see it this afternoon but it was parked up in Stand U
Quote from: Nathan on June 11, 2014, 08:53:35 PM
Does anybody know what route 4313 was on today? I did see it this afternoon but it was parked up in Stand U
I know it did a 711 run. That board used to go onto the 255, I don't know if it still does.
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on June 11, 2014, 09:48:37 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 11, 2014, 08:53:35 PM
Does anybody know what route 4313 was on today? I did see it this afternoon but it was parked up in Stand U
I know it did a 711 run. That board used to go onto the 255, I don't know if it still does.
It was on the 59 until 14:48, then did the 255S and a round trip on the 255
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on June 11, 2014, 09:48:37 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 11, 2014, 08:53:35 PM
Does anybody know what route 4313 was on today? I did see it this afternoon but it was parked up in Stand U
I know it did a 711 run. That board used to go onto the 255, I don't know if it still does.
Yes it does. 255/19 i think the board is. I presume 4313 worked board 59/02? The only bus i never saw yesterday. I did see 4543 though which replaced 4313
In other news 4021 is on late night 59 board 59/09. Will most likley be swapped later . Mon-Fri Late night 59's are fully Trident usually
To take the thread away from WN59 and green heaps
This weeks WN3 Trident gen
Monday - 4314
Tuesday - 455x
Wednesday - 4573
Thursday - A ZF example plus already Mentioned Spectra 4005
Friday - 4573 again plus already mentioned Spectra 4017
How about some better Tridents and/or Spectras next week (apart from 4314)
Also, 4558 has been on WN79, looked top banana at 7:30 this morning in the sun
Do you possibly know which departures 4017 worked?
Thanks :)
Quote from: Nathan on June 13, 2014, 08:54:37 PM
Do you possibly know which departures 4017 worked?
Thanks :)
What time did you see it?
Quote from: Ashley on June 13, 2014, 10:47:13 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 13, 2014, 08:54:37 PM
Do you possibly know which departures 4017 worked?
Thanks :)
What time did you see it?
It has been on there since 09:25 and amazingly is still out there on the 3 now!
Quote from: Ashley on June 13, 2014, 10:47:13 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 13, 2014, 08:54:37 PM
Do you possibly know which departures 4017 worked?
Thanks :)
What time did you see it?
I didn't. I was told by somebody that 4017 was on there and was wondering which trips it worked :)
Quote from: Tony on June 13, 2014, 10:51:50 PM
Quote from: Ashley on June 13, 2014, 10:47:13 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 13, 2014, 08:54:37 PM
Do you possibly know which departures 4017 worked?
Thanks :)
What time did you see it?
It has been on there since 09:25 and amazingly is still out there on the 3 now!
Did it replace a failed B7? Late night 3's are fully B7 from my observation
I must have fallen asleep very early last night to have not seen or heard that. Never been a Spectra on the 3 at night, not since it was the 543 but 4017 is a naff Spectra so no big loss to me personally
601 out on late night 25/7 duties tonight
Should work the 21:45 27 ex W'ton, 22:30 ex Dudley then 23:25 25C to Showell Circus.
Caught it on the 19:25 25C ex Wolves.
Its nice to see B6's working late night trips.
Quote from: Nathan on June 13, 2014, 10:54:35 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 13, 2014, 10:51:50 PM
Quote from: Ashley on June 13, 2014, 10:47:13 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 13, 2014, 08:54:37 PM
Do you possibly know which departures 4017 worked?
Thanks :)
What time did you see it?
It has been on there since 09:25 and amazingly is still out there on the 3 now!
Did it replace a failed B7? Late night 3's are fully B7 from my observation
Well you weren't watching very well then!
It did the 19:09 & 22:09 from Stafford Road and 19:51 & 22:51 from Castlecroft
Quote from: Nathan on June 14, 2014, 09:15:16 PM
601 out on late night 25/7 duties tonight
Should work the 21:45 27 ex W'ton, 22:30 ex Dudley then 23:25 25C to Showell Circus.
Caught it on the 19:25 25C ex Wolves.
Its nice to see B6's working late night trips.
I knew that would happen, 2071 was the 2045 27 ex Wolves, saw that in Sedgley, thoughts immediately turn to home when I could be sat on a B6. Mind you, it's 601 so it will most likely fail before it gets to Showell Circus
Quote from: Tony on June 14, 2014, 09:51:18 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 13, 2014, 10:54:35 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 13, 2014, 10:51:50 PM
Quote from: Ashley on June 13, 2014, 10:47:13 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 13, 2014, 08:54:37 PM
Do you possibly know which departures 4017 worked?
Thanks :)
What time did you see it?
It has been on there since 09:25 and amazingly is still out there on the 3 now!
Did it replace a failed B7? Late night 3's are fully B7 from my observation
Well you weren't watching very well then!
It did the 19:09 & 22:09 from Stafford Road and 19:51 & 22:51 from Castlecroft
No i meant its usually fully B7 on weekday nights in general.
4586 on the 59 and 5515 on the 1 stuck in the middle of Queen St in W'ton due to two parked cars blocking the road (yet again!).
Quote from: Nathan on June 15, 2014, 09:06:48 AM
Quote from: Tony on June 14, 2014, 09:51:18 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 13, 2014, 10:54:35 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 13, 2014, 10:51:50 PM
Quote from: Ashley on June 13, 2014, 10:47:13 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 13, 2014, 08:54:37 PM
Do you possibly know which departures 4017 worked?
Thanks :)
What time did you see it?
It has been on there since 09:25 and amazingly is still out there on the 3 now!
Did it replace a failed B7? Late night 3's are fully B7 from my observation
Well you weren't watching very well then!
It did the 19:09 & 22:09 from Stafford Road and 19:51 & 22:51 from Castlecroft
No i meant its usually fully B7 on weekday nights in general.
The 22:51 from castlecroft was the journey the b5 appeared on sometime last year or earlier this year but no late night spectra's since the 543 days
refurbished 4558 is on 126 today
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on June 15, 2014, 02:01:12 PM
refurbished 4558 is on 126 today
It was on the 255 (Then a 713 school & 79) Thursday and then again yesterday (Think it was on the 79 on Friday too)
Currently sat on 4539, jesus christ what a loud retarder!
Quote from: Matt on June 15, 2014, 09:19:33 PM
Currently sat on 4539, jesus christ what a loud retarder!
Which route is it on?
Quote from: Nathan on June 15, 2014, 09:23:50 PM
Quote from: Matt on June 15, 2014, 09:19:33 PM
Currently sat on 4539, jesus christ what a loud retarder!
Which route is it on?
126 - I'm not feeling suicidal enough to be in Wolvertrampton at this time!
I know what you mean! I try and keep out of the City Centre at night! Although Brum is no better!
Anyway back to WN Garage:
586 was todays 62 if of interest to anyone?
Quote from: Nathan on June 15, 2014, 09:32:25 PM
I know what you mean! I try and keep out of the City Centre at night! Although Brum is no better!
Wolverhampton, Birmingham... it's all the West Midlands, I'd stay out of the county at night if I could!
didn't get the number but the 256 looked like it had overheated and there was a green liquid leaking from the back of it in Wombourne about 12:10
Has 4560 been out in service today? Been trying to find it this afternoon.
Quote from: Nathan on June 16, 2014, 10:25:37 PM
Has 4560 been out in service today? Been trying to find it this afternoon.
No, it is the bottom corner of the yard at the moment
Quote from: Tony on June 16, 2014, 10:28:50 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 16, 2014, 10:25:37 PM
Has 4560 been out in service today? Been trying to find it this afternoon.
No, it is the bottom corner of the yard at the moment
Cheers Tony :) I've got a ride on 4558/61 (Had 4561 on the 529 earlier in the week and on the 59 this evening).
Tony, Do you know if another trident from WN has joined 4562/4 for repaint/refurb?
Quote from: Nathan on June 16, 2014, 10:30:50 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 16, 2014, 10:28:50 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 16, 2014, 10:25:37 PM
Has 4560 been out in service today? Been trying to find it this afternoon.
No, it is the bottom corner of the yard at the moment
Cheers Tony :) I've got a ride on 4558/61 (Had 4561 on the 529 earlier in the week and on the 59 this evening).
Tony, Do you know if another trident from WN has joined 4562/4 for repaint/refurb?
On of the jobs I do at the moment when I have spare time is do full fleet checks at garages to check which ones aren't reporting to AVL properly. Wolverhampton & Coventry were the only two I didn't do today, so no I don't know!
Oh ok! Not to worry :) Was just asking if you knew (or not)
4601 looks a bit out of place in Perry Barr today, must be having work done
4536 and 4542 on the 82 today first time in a while there has been two tridents on.
Quote from: John on June 18, 2014, 10:40:57 AM
4601 looks a bit out of place in Perry Barr today, must be having work done
4601 is now on WN2.
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on June 18, 2014, 04:37:58 PM
Quote from: John on June 18, 2014, 10:40:57 AM
4601 looks a bit out of place in Perry Barr today, must be having work done
4601 is now on WN2.
I think its on the board that comes out of garage in the afternoon.
Quote from: Nathan on June 18, 2014, 06:22:35 PM
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on June 18, 2014, 04:37:58 PM
Quote from: John on June 18, 2014, 10:40:57 AM
4601 looks a bit out of place in Perry Barr today, must be having work done
4601 is now on WN2.
I think its on the board that comes out of garage in the afternoon.
No. It came out as a change bus
Cheers Tony :)
In other news, saw a notice today saying the return ticket sold on the 59 is increasing in price to £3.50. Will this apply to the return tickets sold on other routes also?
4541 was at the Ivy Bush with the bonnet up at 8:40 this morning, on its way into town. Sounded like the engine was still running.
WN seem to be short of double deckers again. There have been single deckers sighted on the 1,59,79,529 and 256/7 over the past few days
And on that note 2007 is on WN 59 today
Quote from: Nathan on June 19, 2014, 02:24:59 PM
WN seem to be short of double deckers again. There have been single deckers sighted on the 1,59,79,529 and 256/7 over the past few days
And on that note 2007 is on WN 59 today
Again two double's on the 82 today 4558 and 4562.
Quote from: Nathan on June 18, 2014, 08:43:05 PM
Cheers Tony :)
In other news, saw a notice today saying the return ticket sold on the 59 is increasing in price to £3.50. Will this apply to the return tickets sold on other routes also?
The notice I've seen implies that the same return fare is available on the common section of route Wednesfield Road/Lichfield Road.
So does that mean the same return fare is also available between those points & Wolverhampton on the 69 & 89 too?
Quote from: Westy on June 19, 2014, 04:54:17 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 18, 2014, 08:43:05 PM
Cheers Tony :)
In other news, saw a notice today saying the return ticket sold on the 59 is increasing in price to £3.50. Will this apply to the return tickets sold on other routes also?
The notice I've seen implies that the same return fare is available on the common section of route Wednesfield Road/Lichfield Road.
So does that mean the same return fare is also available between those points & Wolverhampton on the 69 & 89 too?
Yes, it is valid on the full 59 route and also on the 69 and 89 between Lichfield Road and Wolverhampton only.
Quote from: Westy on June 19, 2014, 04:54:17 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 18, 2014, 08:43:05 PM
Cheers Tony :)
In other news, saw a notice today saying the return ticket sold on the 59 is increasing in price to £3.50. Will this apply to the return tickets sold on other routes also?
The notice I've seen implies that the same return fare is available on the common section of route Wednesfield Road/Lichfield Road.
So does that mean the same return fare is also available between those points & Wolverhampton on the 69 & 89 too?
Return tickets can also be purchased on the 69/89 on the Wolverhampton-Lichfield Rd (Peacock Ave Junction)
Quote from: NXDom on June 19, 2014, 04:27:16 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 19, 2014, 02:24:59 PM
WN seem to be short of double deckers again. There have been single deckers sighted on the 1,59,79,529 and 256/7 over the past few days
And on that note 2007 is on WN 59 today
Again two double's on the 82 today 4558 and 4562.
4562 is currently away for repaint
@NXDom :)
Quote from: N94 on June 19, 2014, 12:07:05 PM
4541 was at the Ivy Bush with the bonnet up at 8:40 this morning, on its way into town. Sounded like the engine was still running.
Back in service now. Seen pulling into W'ton on the 126 this afternoon.
Also if of interest to anyone 4597 is back in service on the 529 today
Quote from: Nathan on June 19, 2014, 06:17:50 PM
Quote from: N94 on June 19, 2014, 12:07:05 PM
4541 was at the Ivy Bush with the bonnet up at 8:40 this morning, on its way into town. Sounded like the engine was still running.
Back in service now. Seen pulling into W'ton on the 126 this afternoon.
Also if of interest to anyone 4597 is back in service on the 529 today
What happened to 4597? Strange because I caught that on 529 on yesterday.
It was involved in an accident on the 529. Went to Carlyle Bus & Coach for repairs.
There was a mention of a crash on the 529 on here (I identified it as 4597) and another mention of it arriving at CB&C. Can't find the respective posts to quote sorry :(
Quote from: Nathan on June 19, 2014, 06:25:29 PM
It was involved in an accident on the 529. Went to Carlyle Bus & Coach for repairs.
There was a mention of a crash on the 529 on here (I identified it as 4597) and another mention of it arriving at CB&C. Can't find the respective posts to quote sorry :(
Ohh, I see. Thanks for the info. :)
Quote from: P419 EJW on June 19, 2014, 06:29:33 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 19, 2014, 06:25:29 PM
It was involved in an accident on the 529. Went to Carlyle Bus & Coach for repairs.
There was a mention of a crash on the 529 on here (I identified it as 4597) and another mention of it arriving at CB&C. Can't find the respective posts to quote sorry :(
Ohh, I see. Thanks for the info. :)
No worries Liam :) Happy to help :)
Anyway moving on,
I've noticed that some 126's display 'DUDLEY 126E'. Now surely this should be displayed on 126's turned short at Dudley from Brum instead of 126E-Dudley Via Roseville (which is only appropriate coming from Wolverhampton direction) which i always see displayed when drivers are turned short (Only ever noticed DUDLEY 126E displayed on the timetabled trips from W'ton)
Quote from: Nathan on June 18, 2014, 08:43:05 PM
Cheers Tony :)
In other news, saw a notice today saying the return ticket sold on the 59 is increasing in price to £3.50. Will this apply to the return tickets sold on other routes also?
Looks like it, saw a notice inside my bus home this evening saying that the 37 return ticket is increasing to £3.50 from 29th June.
Quote from: Nathan on June 19, 2014, 05:57:40 PM
Quote from: Westy on June 19, 2014, 04:54:17 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 18, 2014, 08:43:05 PM
Cheers Tony :)
In other news, saw a notice today saying the return ticket sold on the 59 is increasing in price to £3.50. Will this apply to the return tickets sold on other routes also?
The notice I've seen implies that the same return fare is available on the common section of route Wednesfield Road/Lichfield Road.
So does that mean the same return fare is also available between those points & Wolverhampton on the 69 & 89 too?
Return tickets can also be purchased on the 69/89 on the Wolverhampton-Lichfield Rd (Peacock Ave Junction)
Quote from: NXDom on June 19, 2014, 04:27:16 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 19, 2014, 02:24:59 PM
WN seem to be short of double deckers again. There have been single deckers sighted on the 1,59,79,529 and 256/7 over the past few days
And on that note 2007 is on WN 59 today
Again two double's on the 82 today 4558 and 4562.
4562 is currently away for repaint @Dom :)
One of three currently at Trailways, Bloxwich along with 4626 & 4309
Quote from: Nathan on June 19, 2014, 06:17:50 PM
Quote from: N94 on June 19, 2014, 12:07:05 PM
4541 was at the Ivy Bush with the bonnet up at 8:40 this morning, on its way into town. Sounded like the engine was still running.
Back in service now. Seen pulling into W'ton on the 126 this afternoon.
Also if of interest to anyone 4597 is back in service on the 529 today
4597 was out on Tuesday
4563 now has an advert above the doors for term plus
Quote from: Andrew on June 20, 2014, 07:56:02 AM
4563 now has an advert above the doors for term plus
4545 & 4609 have ads too
Quote from: Andrew on June 20, 2014, 07:56:02 AM
4563 now has an advert above the doors for term plus
Must have been the one that past me on the 59 this morning.
@Matt, 4609 must have had the advert applied last night as it was in service yesterday without an advert applied :)
4550 has one of the above mentioned adverts above the door.
10 of PL's "smartest" Tridents were used on a private hire from St Thomas Moore's School to Wolves Civic Hall today for some kind of national young persons singing competition. Most vehicles driven by depot managers but also at the wheel was local DJ Dicky Dodd
Also, does anybody know what's going onto the 25/27 tonight? Want to do it but don't fancy plastics again like my last two attempts
Quote from: Nathan on June 20, 2014, 03:00:02 PM
Quote from: Andrew on June 20, 2014, 07:56:02 AM
4563 now has an advert above the doors for term plus
Must have been the one that past me on the 59 this morning.
@Matt, 4609 must have had the advert applied last night as it was in service yesterday without an advert applied :)
Forgot to put the route it was on, 27A sorry :)
Quote from: Ashley on June 20, 2014, 04:33:50 PM
4550 has one of the above mentioned adverts above the door.
10 of PL's "smartest" Tridents were used on a private hire from St Thomas Moore's School to Wolves Civic Hall today for some kind of national young persons singing competition. Most vehicles driven by depot managers but also at the wheel was local DJ Dicky Dodd
Also, does anybody know what's going onto the 25/27 tonight? Want to do it but don't fancy plastics again like my last two attempts
Well last night you had 4001 on the 25/7 :) 4310 i think is out on a late night tonight.
@Andrew it turned out to be 4556 that i saw with the advert
on the 59
4551 has also gained a nearside advert
Quote from: Nathan on June 20, 2014, 06:48:51 PM
Quote from: Ashley on June 20, 2014, 04:33:50 PM
4550 has one of the above mentioned adverts above the door.
10 of PL's "smartest" Tridents were used on a private hire from St Thomas Moore's School to Wolves Civic Hall today for some kind of national young persons singing competition. Most vehicles driven by depot managers but also at the wheel was local DJ Dicky Dodd
Also, does anybody know what's going onto the 25/27 tonight? Want to do it but don't fancy plastics again like my last two attempts
Well last night you had 4001 on the 25/7 :) 4310 i think is out on a late night tonight.
@Andrew it turned out to be 4556 that i saw with the advert
on the 59
4551 has also gained a nearside advert
They were indeed it was a really well run service, even if you just heard the tridents bells the whole way.
4571's side and rear flip dot displays are not working today. Seen going along the A4124 Lichfield Rd (Wednesfield High roundabout) going towards Wolverhampton on the 59
Buses at WN with nearside adverts:
4006,4009,4551,4556,4559,4563,4581,4591 and 4609.
If anybody sees anybody else could they add to the list :)
Was in Womborne about 1715, following 4567 on the 255, when 4568 passed in the opposite direction. This probably happens quite often but first time i have seen it!
I've seen 4006 with "We are your designated driver" together with glass and pint. What have others got?
Quote from: JoNi on June 24, 2014, 11:45:56 AM
I've seen 4006 with "We are your designated driver" together with glass and pint. What have others got?
4009 an has an advert too although i cannot remember what its for.
Surprised they ads on Spectras as I would thought were up for withdrawl.
Quote from: JoNi on June 24, 2014, 12:10:31 PM
Surprised they ads on Spectras as I would thought were up for withdrawl.
They are here till next year at the earliest
@JoNi. Some of the mercs are going from WN soon (i'd imagine those will be the ones still in TWM livery) and wouldn't be surprised if some our B6's go before the end of the year too.
Quote from: Nathan on June 24, 2014, 12:13:18 PM
Quote from: JoNi on June 24, 2014, 12:10:31 PM
Surprised they ads on Spectras as I would thought were up for withdrawl.
They are here till next year at the earliest @JoNi. Some of the mercs are going from WN soon (i'd imagine those will be the ones still in TWM livery) and wouldn't be surprised if some our B6's go before the end of the year too.
The Spectras have done well, all things considered. They have been 'non standard' in the fleet from the day they were delivered, have reportedly had reliability issues over the years, have not generally been popular with many drivers, yet still they survive, 15 to 16 years on. Well most of them anyway.
4312 has gained an advert above the doors. It says 'Your ticket to Work,shopping'...etc
4558 still has a yellow piece of paper above ticket prices show st thomas more 40th anniversary and shows the school logo and a big bold 12
Quote from: NXDom on June 24, 2014, 05:59:54 PM
4558 still has a yellow piece of paper above ticket prices show st thomas more 40th anniversary and shows the school logo and a big bold 12
Just reminded me about that. Saw 4558 on 79's yesterday with that yellow piece of paper attached to the window (Underneath the side dot matrix display)
Today's observations on new adverts above the doors (sorry if already mentioned)
4001/9/21/4559/61
Quote from: Nathan on June 24, 2014, 12:13:18 PM
Quote from: JoNi on June 24, 2014, 12:10:31 PM
Surprised they ads on Spectras as I would thought were up for withdrawl.
They are here till next year at the earliest @JoNi. Some of the mercs are going from WN soon (i'd imagine those will be the ones still in TWM livery) and wouldn't be surprised if some our B6's go before the end of the year too.
A BIG Presumption...As the new Enviro 400 in use for the Commonwealth Games going to BC maybe some of their better Mercs or older Tridents will be moved to WN to replace O405N Boneshakers??? Some of BC Tridents are EX WN in any case....
"just a suggestion"
Quote from: 4006 on June 25, 2014, 01:54:51 AM
Quote from: Nathan on June 24, 2014, 12:13:18 PM
Quote from: JoNi on June 24, 2014, 12:10:31 PM
Surprised they ads on Spectras as I would thought were up for withdrawl.
They are here till next year at the earliest @JoNi. Some of the mercs are going from WN soon (i'd imagine those will be the ones still in TWM livery) and wouldn't be surprised if some our B6's go before the end of the year too.
A BIG Presumption...As the new Enviro 400 in use for the Commonwealth Games going to BC maybe some of their better Mercs or older Tridents will be moved to WN to replace O405N Boneshakers??? Some of BC Tridents are EX WN in any case....
"just a suggestion"
Except BC don't operate any Merc o405's?
Quote from: 4006 on June 25, 2014, 01:48:52 AM
Today's observations on new adverts above the doors (sorry if already mentioned)
4001/9/21/4559/61
Add 4584 to that list. Seen on the 59 this morning
To take all garage threads away from the tedious talk of the horrible big stickers I wanted to mention that when I got on 4578 on the 126 this morning. I noticed that to the edge of the newer and or darker piece of flooring in between the drivers cab and the passenger door had come loose and curled upwards in parts which may be a trip hazard. Also the wheelchair ramp wasn't held down properly in one corner so may be another potential trip hazard or a way of triggering a door mechanism malfunction. I left my phone at home today so I don't have any pictures and it may be a little late or vague to mention but hopefully the description is worth the mention.
4593 was towed by mansfield passing digbeth 1740 while on 4901 to city centre
Don't know what this bus was on (I don't think it was the 126) - WN B7RLE 2003, seen on Hagley Road with rear display showing the NX 'Grey Bars'? Never seen this before, overtook the 9.
Quote from: clayderman on June 26, 2014, 05:06:04 PM
Don't know what this bus was on (I don't think it was the 126) - WN B7RLE 2003, seen on Hagley Road with rear display showing the NX 'Grey Bars'? Never seen this before, overtook the 9.
That is one of the not in service displays, National Express West Midlands displayed on the front, with connection bars on the rear (that is on our buses anyway)
Quote from: clayderman on June 26, 2014, 05:06:04 PM
Don't know what this bus was on (I don't think it was the 126) - WN B7RLE 2003, seen on Hagley Road with rear display showing the NX 'Grey Bars'? Never seen this before, overtook the 9.
It ran out of service into Birmingham to do the 16:05 126 back to Wolverhampton
@John @Tony Thanks for the clarification!
Quote from: Nathan on June 24, 2014, 08:30:38 PM
Quote from: NXDom on June 24, 2014, 05:59:54 PM
4558 still has a yellow piece of paper above ticket prices show st thomas more 40th anniversary and shows the school logo and a big bold 12
Just reminded me about that. Saw 4558 on 79's yesterday with that yellow piece of paper attached to the window (Underneath the side dot matrix display)
And it still has that piece of paper attached today! I wonder when they will remove it?
2070 has lost its daysaver stickers if it had them.
Quote from: Andrew on June 29, 2014, 06:33:16 PM
2070 has lost its daysaver stickers if it had them.
It had them removed after the minor RTA it had back in April.
Has every thread on this forum been taken over by sticker spotters?
iirc 2070 was off the road with rta damage when the rest had them applied - the few days after that incident the rest appeared.
Quote from: Ashley on June 29, 2014, 07:36:13 PM
Quote from: Andrew on June 29, 2014, 06:33:16 PM
2070 has lost its daysaver stickers if it had them.
It had them removed after the minor RTA it had back in April.
Has every thread on this forum been taken over by sticker spotters?
LOL first time i had seen it, at first i thought it had had it's 6 branding removed. Then when i couldn't find any trace of it ever being branded for the 6 i thought it may have been recieving branding for a route.
Anyone any info on the WN 24hr supposedly happening routes or is it just something being 'aired' I have heard the idea is to make the 1,59 and 126 24hr
Sorry if this topic has already been mentioned
P.S no mention of stickers in this one ;D ;D ;D
5515 & 5517 have had their number 1 branding removed, wonder if they're on the move somewhere ?
Anybody see any difference on the Volvo B5's, watch this space.
Quote from: BN on June 30, 2014, 08:26:21 AM
Anybody see any difference on the Volvo B5's, watch this space.
Happening soon is it?
Quote from: Andrew on June 30, 2014, 08:25:33 AM
5515 & 5517 have had their number 1 branding removed, wonder if they're on the move somewhere ?
Finally being swapped for BC's E400Hs? If they are being transferred, that's the only logical explanation.
Quote from: Andrew on June 30, 2014, 08:25:33 AM
5515 & 5517 have had their number 1 branding removed, wonder if they're on the move somewhere ?
As BN said watch this space.....
Quote from: Nathan on June 30, 2014, 09:08:35 AM
Quote from: Andrew on June 30, 2014, 08:25:33 AM
5515 & 5517 have had their number 1 branding removed, wonder if they're on the move somewhere ?
As BN said watch this space.....
I shall but I'd be surprised if that isn't what happens. Particularly when BN enquired about the condition of the BC E400Hs a couple of months back.
Quote from: 4006 on June 30, 2014, 12:35:23 AM
Anyone any info on the WN 24hr supposedly happening routes or is it just something being 'aired' I have heard the idea is to make the 1,59 and 126 24hr
Sorry if this topic has already been mentioned
P.S no mention of stickers in this one ;D ;D ;D
Making the 59 24hr would be pretty handy for people visiting New Cross Hospital. Plus it would mean an earlier Sunday 59 which is needed. I was told earlier Sunday 59's were to be introduced but it still hasn't happened?
there has always been a rumour flying around that the adl e400h's will all end up at wn, and volvo b5h's at bc. i can see these been transferred out and older stuff brought over to replace
Quote from: Nathan on June 30, 2014, 12:24:31 PM
Quote from: 4006 on June 30, 2014, 12:35:23 AM
Anyone any info on the WN 24hr supposedly happening routes or is it just something being 'aired' I have heard the idea is to make the 1,59 and 126 24hr
Sorry if this topic has already been mentioned
P.S no mention of stickers in this one ;D ;D ;D
Making the 59 24hr would be pretty handy for people visiting New Cross Hospital. Plus it would mean an earlier Sunday 59 which is needed. I was told earlier Sunday 59's were to be introduced but it still hasn't happened?
The 59 doesn't need to be 24 hour operation just for the benefit of New Cross Hospital. Like most hospitals they have set visiting times and shift patterns, neither of which are outside the current operating hours of the bus service. You'd just carry more waste than a bin wagon. Earlier sunday morning journies would be the only required improvement.
As for the eco machine transfers. WN are having the Enviros. Central are getting the deathtrap B5's
Quote from: Ashley on June 30, 2014, 05:40:26 PM
As for the eco machine transfers. WN are having the Enviros. Central are getting the deathtrap B5's
In what ways would these be death traps? I travel on them regularly and have had no form of incident, let alone a near death experience.
5518 is the only B5 still in full 1 branding. The rest have been debranded (One still has the red surround around thte LED display)
Quote from: mranon on June 30, 2014, 04:39:16 PM
there has always been a rumour flying around that the adl e400h's will all end up at wn, and volvo b5h's at bc. i can see these been transferred out and older stuff brought over to replace
Older stuff to replace what?
9 E400s BC to WN
9 B5 WN to BC
where does older stuff come into the equation?
Quote from: Ashley on June 30, 2014, 05:40:26 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 30, 2014, 12:24:31 PM
Quote from: 4006 on June 30, 2014, 12:35:23 AM
Anyone any info on the WN 24hr supposedly happening routes or is it just something being 'aired' I have heard the idea is to make the 1,59 and 126 24hr
Sorry if this topic has already been mentioned
P.S no mention of stickers in this one ;D ;D ;D
Making the 59 24hr would be pretty handy for people visiting New Cross Hospital. Plus it would mean an earlier Sunday 59 which is needed. I was told earlier Sunday 59's were to be introduced but it still hasn't happened?
The 59 doesn't need to be 24 hour operation just for the benefit of New Cross Hospital. Like most hospitals they have set visiting times and shift patterns, neither of which are outside the current operating hours of the bus service. You'd just carry more waste than a bin wagon. Earlier sunday morning journies would be the only required improvement.
As for the eco machine transfers. WN are having the Enviros. Central are getting the deathtrap B5's
Deathtrap B5s, what on earth are you on about?
in reply to my comment, it wouldnt suprise me if nxwm took the 9 b5h's to bc, and transferred tridents over to replace them (aka older stuff)
Quote from: mranon on June 30, 2014, 06:42:40 PM
in reply to my comment, it wouldnt suprise me if nxwm took the 9 b5h's to bc, and transferred tridents over to replace them (aka older stuff)
No its 5510-18 from WN-BC with WN having 5401-09 in exchange
I prefer it the other way around, but I neither have to drive nor travel on these buses so I couldn't give a toss.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on June 30, 2014, 07:50:55 PM
I prefer it the other way around, but I neither have to drive nor travel on these buses so I couldn't give a toss.
I like driving the B5s, and as I do most of my overtime at BC that suits me
Quote from: Nathan on June 30, 2014, 06:50:54 PM
Quote from: mranon on June 30, 2014, 06:42:40 PM
in reply to my comment, it wouldnt suprise me if nxwm took the 9 b5h's to bc, and transferred tridents over to replace them (aka older stuff)
No its 5510-18 from WN-BC with WN having 5401-09 in exchange
Is there a particular reason why they are being swapped now?
Meh, was hoping the B5s stay in WN and these horrible E400s go to BC. Was nice to see Geminis in WN.
Quote from: John on June 30, 2014, 08:08:40 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 30, 2014, 06:50:54 PM
Quote from: mranon on June 30, 2014, 06:42:40 PM
in reply to my comment, it wouldnt suprise me if nxwm took the 9 b5h's to bc, and transferred tridents over to replace them (aka older stuff)
No its 5510-18 from WN-BC with WN having 5401-09 in exchange
Is there a particular reason why they are being swapped now?
Possibly to reduce the type's operating at WN? :-\
although ive never driven either of these, i always have a soft spot for volvo buses/coaches (b6 excluded lol) however i think the b5h's would have been better with a different gearbox. however the drivers ive chatted with hate them and prefer the adl.
Personally as a passenger Ive always preferred the E400H it looks better and feels smoother, Ill be sad to see them leave Birmingham.
Quote from: pb2012 on June 30, 2014, 08:14:47 PM
Quote from: John on June 30, 2014, 08:08:40 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 30, 2014, 06:50:54 PM
Quote from: mranon on June 30, 2014, 06:42:40 PM
in reply to my comment, it wouldnt suprise me if nxwm took the 9 b5h's to bc, and transferred tridents over to replace them (aka older stuff)
No its 5510-18 from WN-BC with WN having 5401-09 in exchange
Is there a particular reason why they are being swapped now?
Possibly to reduce the type's operating at WN? :-\
I'd have thought that's the main reason for both garages. In addition with NXWM now committed to ADL products for the foreseeable, and therefore the type of Hybrid future purchases (if there are to be any) decided, would there still be a need to evaluate these side by side on common routes?
Wolverhampton getting the higher capacity vehicles then.
Are you sure. Might be just being re branded?
Quote from: BN on June 30, 2014, 09:35:45 PM
Are you sure. Might be just being re branded?
Well we've heard it from the horse's mouth now BN. Not that I'm calling Tony a horse but you know what I mean.
Quote from: Mike K on June 30, 2014, 09:42:07 PM
Quote from: BN on June 30, 2014, 09:35:45 PM
Are you sure. Might be just being re branded?
Well we've heard it from the horse's mouth now BN. Not that I'm calling Tony a horse but you know what I mean.
HAHAHAHA!!!! Love it!!
unbranded 5510-14 have started to be prepared for their move to BC.5512 has had its 'turning the black country green' removed overnight
Quote from: Nathan on July 01, 2014, 10:13:55 AM
unbranded 5510-14 have started to be prepared for their move to BC.5512 has had its 'turning the black country green' removed overnight
And 5515 has been rebranded for the 126 in blue ;D
Quote from: Andrew on July 01, 2014, 10:20:00 AM
Quote from: Nathan on July 01, 2014, 10:13:55 AM
unbranded 5510-14 have started to be prepared for their move to BC.5512 has had its 'turning the black country green' removed overnight
And 5515 has been rebranded for the 126 in blue ;D
Hahaha!
Rather B5's on the 126 than them dreadfull Voith Tridents ;D
So just going on speculation, if the E400Hs go from BC to WV, then some new E400s to wolves as well to directly replace mercs?
As I say, just speculation, that's what seems to be the norm whenever someone posts clues on here :)
Quote from: Kevin on July 01, 2014, 11:39:30 AM
So just going on speculation, if the E400Hs go from BC to WV, then some new E400s to wolves as well to directly replace mercs?
As I say, just speculation, that's what seems to be the norm whenever someone posts clues on here :)
WN not having any new buses at the moment
5518 is still branded for the 1.
I wonder if any new allocations of bus will go to wolves to replace the spectras (oldest double deckers in the fleet) that seem to overheat frequently in the summer. Wouldn't mind seeing E400 on the 529
Confirmed open day 20th July.
Posters going on the buses tonight.
Buses old and new, plus others.
Come along.
Quote from: Mike K on June 30, 2014, 08:30:26 PM
Quote from: pb2012 on June 30, 2014, 08:14:47 PM
Quote from: John on June 30, 2014, 08:08:40 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 30, 2014, 06:50:54 PM
Quote from: mranon on June 30, 2014, 06:42:40 PM
in reply to my comment, it wouldnt suprise me if nxwm took the 9 b5h's to bc, and transferred tridents over to replace them (aka older stuff)
No its 5510-18 from WN-BC with WN having 5401-09 in exchange
Is there a particular reason why they are being swapped now?
Possibly to reduce the type's operating at WN? :-\
I'd have thought that's the main reason for both garages. In addition with NXWM now committed to ADL products for the foreseeable, and therefore the type of Hybrid future purchases (if there are to be any) decided, would there still be a need to evaluate these side by side on common routes?
So will some of the '61' Enviro400Hs be branded for the 1 at Wolverhampton, or just have the generic 'Turning The Black Country Green'?
@John, I'd imagine atleast 5 would be left unbranded for use on the 59 (Like 5510-14)
Quote from: Nathan on July 02, 2014, 09:48:24 PM
@John, I'd imagine atleast 5 would be left unbranded for use on the 59 (Like 5510-14)
That's only assuming they're used on the 59 though
Quote from: Andrew on July 02, 2014, 09:51:59 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 02, 2014, 09:48:24 PM
@John, I'd imagine atleast 5 would be left unbranded for use on the 59 (Like 5510-14)
That's only assuming they're used on the 59 though
I'd be very surprised if they didn't....
Quote from: Andrew on July 01, 2014, 10:20:00 AM
Quote from: Nathan on July 01, 2014, 10:13:55 AM
unbranded 5510-14 have started to be prepared for their move to BC.5512 has had its 'turning the black country green' removed overnight
And 5515 has been rebranded for the 126 in blue ;D
If only :)
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on July 01, 2014, 05:36:10 PM
5518 is still branded for the 1.
5518 has been debranded from the 1
Quote from: BN on July 02, 2014, 05:20:23 PM
Confirmed open day 20th July.
Posters going on the buses tonight.
Buses old and new, plus others.
Come along.
Is it just on the Wolves vehicles or are Walsall, West Bromwich & Pensnett having the notices too?
Probably of most interest to Nathan
5513 has lost it's "turning the black country green" slogans
His favourite Trident 4609 also has one of the big stickers
4313 back at WN and on the 255 today. Well, it was until 1835 ish
Quote from: Ashley on July 03, 2014, 09:37:17 PM
Probably of most interest to Nathan
5513 has lost it's "turning the black country green" slogans
His favourite Trident 4609 also has one of the big stickers
4313 back at WN and on the 255 today. Well, it was until 1835 ish
I am aware of all of the above but thanks anyway :) 4313 worked 255/19 which works a 711 school trip beforehand.
4609's Advert says 'Buses across the West Midlands every few minutes'
How many (if any) of the non 1 branded B5s still have the slogans on? I don't think I saw any when I was up there the other day.
I noticed the former 1 branded ones still had the red on the front and "up to every" on the side, I wonder if that was deliberate? (22/23 branding?)
Quote from: N94 on July 03, 2014, 11:04:40 PM
How many (if any) of the non 1 branded B5s still have the slogans on? I don't think I saw any when I was up there the other day.
I noticed the former 1 branded ones still had the red on the front and "up to every" on the side, I wonder if that was deliberate? (22/23 branding?)
All of 5510-18 have their lettering/branding. However as you say 5515-18 still have the red surrounding the destination and 'Up to every' letting on the window
Quote from: Nathan on July 03, 2014, 11:07:56 PM
Quote from: N94 on July 03, 2014, 11:04:40 PM
How many (if any) of the non 1 branded B5s still have the slogans on? I don't think I saw any when I was up there the other day.
I noticed the former 1 branded ones still had the red on the front and "up to every" on the side, I wonder if that was deliberate? (22/23 branding?)
All of 5510-18 have their lettering/branding. However as you say 5515-18 still have the red surrounding the destination and 'Up to every' letting on the window
Cheers Nathan. Just asking because only a couple had been mentioned on here as being done.
5515 has still got becon for the bilnd centre on it will that be removed or not or even get put on to an enviro branded number one
4313 after coming back from WA garage yesterday went on school service 711 and the had a paper fight with the on broad daily metro some the inspectors had to clean the bus up so it could work on route
Quote from: Nathan on July 03, 2014, 11:07:56 PM
Quote from: N94 on July 03, 2014, 11:04:40 PM
How many (if any) of the non 1 branded B5s still have the slogans on? I don't think I saw any when I was up there the other day.
I noticed the former 1 branded ones still had the red on the front and "up to every" on the side, I wonder if that was deliberate? (22/23 branding?)
All of 5510-18 have their lettering/branding. However as you say 5515-18 still have the red surrounding the destination and 'Up to every' letting on the window
There's probably absolutely nothing in this but 5504 and 5509 have both lost their 'Electric Hybrid Bus' logos on the front upper windscreen.
Quote from: Mike K on July 04, 2014, 10:01:25 AM
Quote from: Nathan on July 03, 2014, 11:07:56 PM
Quote from: N94 on July 03, 2014, 11:04:40 PM
How many (if any) of the non 1 branded B5s still have the slogans on? I don't think I saw any when I was up there the other day.
I noticed the former 1 branded ones still had the red on the front and "up to every" on the side, I wonder if that was deliberate? (22/23 branding?)
All of 5510-18 have their lettering/branding. However as you say 5515-18 still have the red surrounding the destination and 'Up to every' letting on the window
There's probably absolutely nothing in this but 5504 and 5509 have both lost their 'Electric Hybrid Bus' logos on the front upper windscreen.
5510-18 have had the 'Electric Hybrid Bus' lettering on the upper windscreen removed also.
Quote from: jack5512 on July 04, 2014, 07:22:33 AM
4313 after coming back from WA garage yesterday went on school service 711 and the had a paper fight with the on broad daily metro some the inspectors had to clean the bus up so it could work on route
Basically to reword that there was an incident aboard 4313 yesterday whilst operating the 711 school service which involved lots of newspaper thrown across the bus (A paper fight) . Inspectors bagged up the scrunched up paper (There was lots of it) and it went back to resume service on the 256
In other news Posters have now gone up on buses for WN garage open day (Same style to the posters for the AG/YW open day)
Quote from: Nathan on July 03, 2014, 10:42:48 PM
Quote from: Ashley on July 03, 2014, 09:37:17 PM
Probably of most interest to Nathan
5513 has lost it's "turning the black country green" slogans
His favourite Trident 4609 also has one of the big stickers
4313 back at WN and on the 255 today. Well, it was until 1835 ish
I am aware of all of the above but thanks anyway :) 4313 worked 255/19 which works a 711 school trip beforehand.
4609's Advert says 'Buses across the West Midlands every few minutes'
And i'm already aware of the contents of that particular running board as you've publicised it on the forum many times
Also a simple way to have avoided said paper fight would be to just dispose of the papers or put them in the cab
When are the B5LHs and Enviro400Hs expected to leave/come to Wolverhampton?
Quote from: John on July 04, 2014, 10:08:31 PM
When are the B5LHs and Enviro400Hs expected to leave/come to Wolverhampton?
I'd imagine it will be within the next few weeks with WN's B5's prepared ready for transfer to BC and it seems BC have made a start on the E400H's
Quote from: John on July 04, 2014, 10:08:31 PM
When are the B5LHs and Enviro400Hs expected to leave/come to Wolverhampton?
Next couple of weeks mate :)
Quote from: Nathan on July 04, 2014, 10:12:56 PM
Quote from: John on July 04, 2014, 10:08:31 PM
When are the B5LHs and Enviro400Hs expected to leave/come to Wolverhampton?
I'd imagine it will be within the next few weeks with WN's B5's prepared ready for transfer to BC and it seems BC have made a start on the E400H's
@Nathan what is it that BC have done to their E400Hs? I haven't noticed anything different on any and I've seen a few of them today.
Quote from: NXDom on July 04, 2014, 10:13:14 PM
Quote from: John on July 04, 2014, 10:08:31 PM
When are the B5LHs and Enviro400Hs expected to leave/come to Wolverhampton?
Next couple of weeks mate :)
Mentioned above Dom :)
I hear there were a few E400H's parked in garage this afternoon (May be why there were 2 Tridents and a B7 on the 1). I wonder what was wrong?
@Mike K, I thought i had read on here that some of the BC E400H's had had lettering removed but must be seeing things ;) Think i need a good nights sleep ;) It has been a long day ;)
I'd imagine they will make a start on preparing BC's E400H's soon though
The BC hybrid E400s don't mention the word Birmingham externally, so could operate in their current livery in WN without any modificaton
Quote from: uniquicity on July 04, 2014, 10:24:56 PM
The BC hybrid E400s don't mention the word Birmingham externally, so could operate in their current livery in WN without any modificaton
Cheers
@uniquicity :) I forgot about that until you mentioned ;) Only the B5's at BC have 'Turning Birmingham Green' on the exterior.
Quote from: uniquicity on July 04, 2014, 10:24:56 PM
The BC hybrid E400s don't mention the word Birmingham externally, so could operate in their current livery in WN without any modificaton
Thought they had 'Turning Birmingham Green' on them ?
Quote from: Andrew on July 04, 2014, 10:31:23 PM
Quote from: uniquicity on July 04, 2014, 10:24:56 PM
The BC hybrid E400s don't mention the word Birmingham externally, so could operate in their current livery in WN without any modificaton
Thought they had 'Turning Birmingham Green' on them ?
Nope :) It says "Electric Hybrid Bus"
Quote from: Nathan on July 04, 2014, 10:33:24 PM
Quote from: Andrew on July 04, 2014, 10:31:23 PM
Quote from: uniquicity on July 04, 2014, 10:24:56 PM
The BC hybrid E400s don't mention the word Birmingham externally, so could operate in their current livery in WN without any modificaton
Thought they had 'Turning Birmingham Green' on them ?
Nope :) It says "Electric Hybrid Bus"
Thanks, just looked. Nevermind lol
Quote from: Nathan on July 04, 2014, 10:22:35 PM
@Mike K, I thought i had read on here that some of the BC E400H's had had lettering removed but must be seeing things ;) Think i need a good nights sleep ;) It has been a long day ;)
I'd imagine they will make a start on preparing BC's E400H's soon though
@Nathan, I mentioned that 5504 and 5509 (B5s) had lost their Hybrid Bus lettering on the front screens, when it was mentioned that the WN ones had lost theirs, but that the 'every _ minutes' had been left on the branded ones. I wondered whether they might be preparing to brand the B5s for the Harborne corridor. Not sure about that though as none of BC's other B5s have lost the lettering.
As stated the BC E400Hs can go straight into service at WN as they are.
Quote from: Mike K on July 04, 2014, 10:41:01 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 04, 2014, 10:22:35 PM
@Mike K, I thought i had read on here that some of the BC E400H's had had lettering removed but must be seeing things ;) Think i need a good nights sleep ;) It has been a long day ;)
I'd imagine they will make a start on preparing BC's E400H's soon though
@Nathan, I mentioned that 5504 and 5509 (B5s) had lost their Hybrid Bus lettering on the front screens, when it was mentioned that the WN ones had lost theirs, but that the 'every _ minutes' had been left on the branded ones. I wondered whether they might be preparing to brand the B5s for the Harborne corridor. Not sure about that though as none of BC's other B5s have lost the lettering.
As stated the BC E400Hs can go straight into service at WN as they are.
Bar TM's, destination programming and recieving paperwork checked.
Some will be out on the 1 Monday.
Quote from: Nathan on July 04, 2014, 10:19:44 PM
Quote from: NXDom on July 04, 2014, 10:13:14 PM
Quote from: John on July 04, 2014, 10:08:31 PM
When are the B5LHs and Enviro400Hs expected to leave/come to Wolverhampton?
Next couple of weeks mate :)
Mentioned above Dom :)
I hear there were a few E400H's parked in garage this afternoon (May be why there were 2 Tridents and a B7 on the 1). I wonder what was wrong?
Nothing was wrong.
BN do you know why some remnants of branding have been left on 5515-18? Do you know if there any plans to brand them when they get to BC?
Sorry pass, they might do?
Ok cheers mate
how many buses does park lane have & how many r out on sundays
Some B5's will transfer out to BC tommorow. Bit of a shame really as i like the B5's. I will have to catch one next week in their new home :)
Quote from: Nathan on July 05, 2014, 09:39:53 PM
Some B5's will transfer out to BC tommorow. Bit of a shame really as i like the B5's. I will have to catch one next week in their new home :)
Yes
@Nathan from an enthusiast's point of view it's a shame about the swap, I liked the E400Hs and the variety of having 2 bus types on my local route. But I guess this was always going to happen sooner or later and from a commercial perspective makes sense. I do like the Gemini 2s and look forward to seeing 5510-18 in Brum next week. Rode 5404 and 5406 by way of farewell today.
Quote from: Solo1 on July 05, 2014, 09:11:48 PM
how many buses does park lane have & how many r out on sundays
They have 201 allocated with 3 currently in for refurb.
Quote from: Mike K on July 05, 2014, 10:07:31 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 05, 2014, 09:39:53 PM
Some B5's will transfer out to BC tommorow. Bit of a shame really as i like the B5's. I will have to catch one next week in their new home :)
Yes @Nathan from an enthusiast's point of view it's a shame about the swap, I liked the E400Hs and the variety of having 2 bus types on my local route. But I guess this was always going to happen sooner or later and from a commercial perspective makes sense. I do like the Gemini 2s and look forward to seeing 5510-18 in Brum next week. Rode 5404 and 5406 by way of farewell today.
Yes i was aware it would haplen at some point. I'm hoping 5510-14 are still at WN tommorow so i can get a final ride
Good riddance to the B5's. You won't be missed in Wolverhampton
They may not be missed by you, but they will be missed by me and others.
Someone said in the BC thread that 5514 is already there.
They'll be missed by me, i'm stuck with buses with hard seats, less legroom and more rattles than a rattle snake now.
5511 still here, its on the 59
Yes 5514 parked on the pumps this morning with the Black Country lettering removed - hope BC aren't losing 5409 it's the best in the fleet!!
Quote from: AndrewLee on July 06, 2014, 09:25:04 AM
Yes 5514 parked on the pumps this morning with the Black Country lettering removed - hope BC aren't losing 5409 it's the best in the fleet!!
They're losing all of 5401-09, with 5510-18 coming in exchange.
Oh no - shame they didn't do it the other way round don't much like the volvo hybrids.
Quote from: AndrewLee on July 06, 2014, 09:52:36 AM
Oh no - shame they didn't do it the other way round don't much like the volvo hybrids.
Couldn't do it the other way - numbers don't match
Quote from: Andrew on July 06, 2014, 09:10:08 AM
They'll be missed by me, i'm stuck with buses with hard seats, less legroom and more rattles than a rattle snake now.
5511 still here, its on the 59
5511 and 5512 are hanging on in service at WN on 59's Will be out on late nights
Only 5510/13/14/18 swopping with 5401/3/7/9 today
Quote from: Tony on July 06, 2014, 10:43:31 AM
Only 5510/13/14/18 swopping with 5401/3/7/9 today
A couple of E400H's were sighted heading through W'ton this morning
Such a shame. I'm actually unsure of my experience with the Hybrid Buses altogether... I have my Pros and Cons to both Vehicles. The E400H has better seating & capacity, but I think the B5s lighting is better. Also, the seating on both vehicles have so much differences. Granted, the B5 has a lower seating capacity, but the seats are by far softer than those rock hard seats embedded into the plastic body - might as well have replaced them with cardboard...
I can't say I'm interested the least bit in the Hybrids, I think the B5s are quite decent, they have a nice engine sound. Haven't really got much of an opinion on the E400Hs
Quote from: clayderman on July 06, 2014, 06:23:23 PM
Such a shame. I'm actually unsure of my experience with the Hybrid Buses altogether... I have my Pros and Cons to both Vehicles. The E400H has better seating & capacity, but I think the B5s lighting is better. Also, the seating on both vehicles have so much differences. Granted, the B5 has a lower seating capacity, but the seats are by far softer than those rock hard seats embedded into the plastic body - might as well have replaced them with cardboard...
The only harder seats on the Enviros are the ones above the wheel arches and the front right pair upstairs, the rest are more comfortable.
Quote from: Matt on July 06, 2014, 06:28:08 PM
Quote from: clayderman on July 06, 2014, 06:23:23 PM
Such a shame. I'm actually unsure of my experience with the Hybrid Buses altogether... I have my Pros and Cons to both Vehicles. The E400H has better seating & capacity, but I think the B5s lighting is better. Also, the seating on both vehicles have so much differences. Granted, the B5 has a lower seating capacity, but the seats are by far softer than those rock hard seats embedded into the plastic body - might as well have replaced them with cardboard...
The only harder seats on the Enviros are the ones above the wheel arches and the front right pair upstairs, the rest are more comfortable.
Yes those seats aren't good. Combined with the hard suspension, when you hit a pothole it's like going over a land mine.
Managed to get a final ride on a WN b5 today. In all honesty I don't know what I prefer I kind of like b5s but never really enjoy having long journeys on them for example when I did the whole 1 on a b5 but the e400h might as well be normal e400 but with a different pain job, seat covers and a new engine, there is hardly any differances between normall e400s and the hybrid counterpart. Just pointing this out but aren't they going to have to reprogram the audio stops for example the b5s going towards brimingham colmore row you randomly hear 'your next is Wolverhampton Grand Theatre'
Quote from: NXDom on July 06, 2014, 06:38:34 PM
Managed to get a final ride on a WN b5 today. In all honesty I don't know what I prefer I kind of like b5s but never really enjoy having long journeys on them for example when I did the whole 1 on a b5 but the e400h might as well be normal e400 but with a different pain job, seat covers and a new engine, there is hardly any differances between normall e400s and the hybrid counterpart. Just pointing this out but aren't they going to have to reprogram the audio stops for example the b5s going towards brimingham colmore row you randomly hear 'your next is Wolverhampton Grand Theatre'
A final ride? There is still 5 in the depot and will be booked out tomorrow.
Quote from: BN on July 06, 2014, 08:06:28 PM
Quote from: NXDom on July 06, 2014, 06:38:34 PM
Managed to get a final ride on a WN b5 today. In all honesty I don't know what I prefer I kind of like b5s but never really enjoy having long journeys on them for example when I did the whole 1 on a b5 but the e400h might as well be normal e400 but with a different pain job, seat covers and a new engine, there is hardly any differances between normall e400s and the hybrid counterpart. Just pointing this out but aren't they going to have to reprogram the audio stops for example the b5s going towards brimingham colmore row you randomly hear 'your next is Wolverhampton Grand Theatre'
A final ride? There is still 5 in the depot and will be booked out tomorrow.
Yeah but i've got school and a crap ton of coursework to get done so by the time i'm done they will most likely be gone.
The gear change is horrid on the Volvos and also when you're trying to get out onto five ways Island and cars are coming at you they decide they want to start the engine and there's massive lag in getting going. The 54**'s are excellent , particularly 5409. Fast and smooth...
Quote from: AndrewLee on July 06, 2014, 08:14:45 PM
The gear change is horrid on the Volvos and also when you're trying to get out onto five ways Island and cars are coming at you they decide they want to start the engine and there's massive lag in getting going. The 54**'s are excellent , particularly 5409. Fast and smooth...
Are you on the Harborne rota Andrew? My main gripe with the E400Hs are the rattles and hard suspension. They are quick though. Have to say from a passenger perspective I do like both Hybrid types.
Quote from: Mike K on July 06, 2014, 08:22:49 PM
Quote from: AndrewLee on July 06, 2014, 08:14:45 PM
The gear change is horrid on the Volvos and also when you're trying to get out onto five ways Island and cars are coming at you they decide they want to start the engine and there's massive lag in getting going. The 54**'s are excellent , particularly 5409. Fast and smooth...
Are you on the Harborne rota Andrew? My main gripe with the E400Hs are the rattles and hard suspension. They are quick though. Have to say from a passenger perspective I do like both Hybrid types.
Agree with you entirely Mike. I'd struggle to pick a favourite, I like both.
I'm not, but I do dabble from time to time. Maybe it's just me but I find the Volvos tiring to drive, not sure that's a good description it's just I've got this negative mentality towards them. As you say, passenger wise they're good buses. Another thing is, again it's proberly just me, they seem really heavy (even running dead) when going round corners.
Only 3 vehicles were swopped yesterday
5510/3/4 WN-BC
5401/3/9 BC-WN
Quote from: Tony on July 07, 2014, 08:25:52 AM
Only 3 vehicles were swopped yesterday
5510/3/4 WN-BC
5401/3/9 BC-WN
Are they booked out in service today?
Quote from: Nathan on July 07, 2014, 09:06:45 AM
Quote from: Tony on July 07, 2014, 08:25:52 AM
Only 3 vehicles were swopped yesterday
5510/3/4 WN-BC
5401/3/9 BC-WN
Are they booked out in service today?
5409 is
And 5512 is sticking to 59's again today.
would have thought they'd have swapped the lot over the weekend. surely sat and sun there are spare buses to cover whilst this is done
I like the enviros but personally I do admit the Volvos interior is better hybrid wise...
Is this introduction of more ADL products at Wolverhampton an indication of things to come perhaps? New deliveries for the 126? Which connects the Midlands two largest cities?
Quote from: mranon on July 07, 2014, 04:29:41 PM
would have thought they'd have swapped the lot over the weekend. surely sat and sun there are spare buses to cover whilst this is done
There is more to transferring a bus than driving it from one garage to another
5409 seen out on the 1 this morning.
This evening seen with hazard lights on with mechanic van in attendance in Parkfields area then being driven away through Dovedale area. Poor thing. And on its first proper day in service in Wolverhampton.
has 5510 been borrowed to be put on the 23A because I'm sure I saw it on it about 10 mins ago in Birmingham?
(I didn't really pay attention because it's normal to have a hybrid on there)
Quote from: TinnedPeaches on July 07, 2014, 06:21:29 PM
5409 seen out on the 1 this morning.
This evening seen with hazard lights on with mechanic van in attendance in Parkfields area then being driven away through Dovedale area. Poor thing. And on its first proper day in service in Wolverhampton.
Haha! You've gotta laugh.
Quote from: OH25 on July 07, 2014, 06:32:29 PM
has 5510 been borrowed to be put on the 23A because I'm sure I saw it on it about 10 mins ago in Birmingham?
(I didn't really pay attention because it's normal to have a hybrid on there)
5510 is at BC now.
Quote from: Tony on July 07, 2014, 04:59:04 PM
Quote from: mranon on July 07, 2014, 04:29:41 PM
would have thought they'd have swapped the lot over the weekend. surely sat and sun there are spare buses to cover whilst this is done
There is more to transferring a bus than driving it from one garage to another
tony im aware of that, im assuming apart from obvious blinds etm etc, that each garage has to do its own vi check etc before they enter service and get them added to the maintainance/allocation system. hence why with the less of demand for vehicles at the weekend they had an opportunity. its obvious with the b5's having their branding removed etc that preparations were underway most nights
Saw 5403 in the city Not in service & 5409 on the 1 today
4013 has had some RTC and has rear o/s damage, it looks like its had a right wack by something and was been towed on the ring road this morning
Quote from: 4006 on July 07, 2014, 07:12:23 PM
Saw 5403 in the city Not in service & 5409 on the 1 today
4013 has had some RTC and has rear o/s damage, it looks like its had a right wack by something and was been towed on the ring road this morning
I hear it was involved in a collision at Hill Top (So on the 79 presumably). I wonder whether it has seen its final day in service?
Quote from: mranon on July 07, 2014, 06:47:07 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 07, 2014, 04:59:04 PM
Quote from: mranon on July 07, 2014, 04:29:41 PM
would have thought they'd have swapped the lot over the weekend. surely sat and sun there are spare buses to cover whilst this is done
There is more to transferring a bus than driving it from one garage to another
tony im aware of that, im assuming apart from obvious blinds etm etc, that each garage has to do its own vi check etc before they enter service and get them added to the maintainance/allocation system. hence why with the less of demand for vehicles at the weekend they had an opportunity. its obvious with the b5's having their branding removed etc that preparations were underway most nights
And if you had moved all 9 over in one go you would probably have to call engineers in on overtime to do it, It is alright saying there are plenty of buses spare, garages don't have engineers sat around in case buses are getting transferred
I still don't ;) know quite why :)
@Nathan expresses himself ;) so much with the :P overuse of smiley :) faces. :P
So then... the transferring has commenced!
Any noticeable power differences between the older and younger 55's? Or is there is still a whole ratio missing in every gear change? It's like you can fit another gearbox between each gear...
Quote from: Tony on July 07, 2014, 10:12:52 PM
Quote from: mranon on July 07, 2014, 06:47:07 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 07, 2014, 04:59:04 PM
Quote from: mranon on July 07, 2014, 04:29:41 PM
would have thought they'd have swapped the lot over the weekend. surely sat and sun there are spare buses to cover whilst this is done
There is more to transferring a bus than driving it from one garage to another
tony im aware of that, im assuming apart from obvious blinds etm etc, that each garage has to do its own vi check etc before they enter service and get them added to the maintainance/allocation system. hence why with the less of demand for vehicles at the weekend they had an opportunity. its obvious with the b5's having their branding removed etc that preparations were underway most nights
And if you had moved all 9 over in one go you would probably have to call engineers in on overtime to do it, It is alright saying there are plenty of buses spare, garages don't have engineers sat around in case buses are getting transferred
But when the 9 was moved from BC to PE, most of the Enviros moved virtually overnight? There were 30 Enviros, in this case there are only 9 buses.
Quote from: Nathan on July 07, 2014, 08:54:34 PM
Quote from: 4006 on July 07, 2014, 07:12:23 PM
Saw 5403 in the city Not in service & 5409 on the 1 today
4013 has had some RTC and has rear o/s damage, it looks like its had a right wack by something and was been towed on the ring road this morning
I hear it was involved in a collision at Hill Top (So on the 79 presumably). I wonder whether it has seen its final day in service?
Yes
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 08, 2014, 03:57:04 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 07, 2014, 10:12:52 PM
Quote from: mranon on July 07, 2014, 06:47:07 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 07, 2014, 04:59:04 PM
Quote from: mranon on July 07, 2014, 04:29:41 PM
would have thought they'd have swapped the lot over the weekend. surely sat and sun there are spare buses to cover whilst this is done
There is more to transferring a bus than driving it from one garage to another
tony im aware of that, im assuming apart from obvious blinds etm etc, that each garage has to do its own vi check etc before they enter service and get them added to the maintainance/allocation system. hence why with the less of demand for vehicles at the weekend they had an opportunity. its obvious with the b5's having their branding removed etc that preparations were underway most nights
And if you had moved all 9 over in one go you would probably have to call engineers in on overtime to do it, It is alright saying there are plenty of buses spare, garages don't have engineers sat around in case buses are getting transferred
But when the 9 was moved from BC to PE, most of the Enviros moved virtually overnight? There were 30 Enviros, in this case there are only 9 buses.
I think needs were slightly more pressing there, much of the allocation of LH moved to BC that weekend with the closure of LH, and the Enviros moved to PE at the same time. I would guess that circumstances dictated that a shed load of overtime had to be paid to staff responsible for moving hundreds of vehicles over that weekend.
Quote from: Mike K on July 08, 2014, 05:55:31 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 08, 2014, 03:57:04 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 07, 2014, 10:12:52 PM
Quote from: mranon on July 07, 2014, 06:47:07 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 07, 2014, 04:59:04 PM
Quote from: mranon on July 07, 2014, 04:29:41 PM
would have thought they'd have swapped the lot over the weekend. surely sat and sun there are spare buses to cover whilst this is done
There is more to transferring a bus than driving it from one garage to another
tony im aware of that, im assuming apart from obvious blinds etm etc, that each garage has to do its own vi check etc before they enter service and get them added to the maintainance/allocation system. hence why with the less of demand for vehicles at the weekend they had an opportunity. its obvious with the b5's having their branding removed etc that preparations were underway most nights
And if you had moved all 9 over in one go you would probably have to call engineers in on overtime to do it, It is alright saying there are plenty of buses spare, garages don't have engineers sat around in case buses are getting transferred
But when the 9 was moved from BC to PE, most of the Enviros moved virtually overnight? There were 30 Enviros, in this case there are only 9 buses.
I think needs were slightly more pressing there, much of the allocation of LH moved to BC that weekend with the closure of LH, and the Enviros moved to PE at the same time. I would guess that circumstances dictated that a shed load of overtime had to be paid to staff responsible for moving hundreds of vehicles over that weekend.
Yes, the whole of the revenue team was paid a days overtime, amongst a lot of other people just for driving buses about. Very pleasant earner!
Quote from: Liverpool Street on July 08, 2014, 03:20:19 PM
I still don't ;) know quite why :) @Nathan expresses himself ;) so much with the :P overuse of smiley :) faces. :P
So then... the transferring has commenced!
Any noticeable power differences between the older and younger 55's? Or is there is still a whole ratio missing in every gear change? It's like you can fit another gearbox between each gear...
They certainly look nicer with their black window surrounds and without that dreadful vinyl covering the whole of the rear. They need a bit of a tidy up though, you can still clearly see where the turning the Black Country green slogans were. And why did they need to remove the NXWM / Centro partnership logos from the rear? I travelled on 5514 today and noticed no difference from the 61 reg batch. But then again I'm no bus driver.
Travelled on 5403 today and it seemed very dark at the back with the big vinyl sticker covering the whole of the rear of the bus. Other than that, I think there's very little difference inside.
oh dear......... thats 3 spectras down 4003/7/13. wonder how long the remaining ones have left now.
Quote from: mranon on July 08, 2014, 08:09:36 PM
oh dear......... thats 3 spectras down 4003/7/13. wonder how long the remaining ones have left now.
Those three could be parts donors if anything happens mechanically to the remaining 18.
5402 just been delivered. 5517 on route to BC
5515 has finally come off the 1 for once since being debranded. Its on the 59 today. It looks odd having it on here though with the red surrounds on the LED display still in place.
5511 and 5516 seen following each other out of Sedgley towards Wolverhampton on my drive home tonight on the 1. They're still hanging on here!
Quote from: TinnedPeaches on July 11, 2014, 05:48:02 PM
5511 and 5516 seen following each other out of Sedgley towards Wolverhampton on my drive home tonight on the 1. They're still hanging on here!
Be sad to loose 5516, its an absolute beast!
Have the remaining B5's transferred to BC today? Reason i ask is because i haven't seen any on the 1 or 59 today
Quote from: Nathan on July 12, 2014, 11:29:38 AM
Have the remaining B5's transferred to BC today? Reason i ask is because i haven't seen any on the 1 or 59 today
5404 and 5406 at least are on the 22/3/4 so I would imagine not all B5s have left WN yet.
Here is 5401 in service at WN:
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/trident_4609/14448009768/
And it still has the advert on the rear:
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/trident_4609/14448062888/
And here is 5403:
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/trident_4609/14448150770/
Both of these have made it onto the 126 this week
Quote from: Nathan on July 12, 2014, 11:29:38 AM
Have the remaining B5's transferred to BC today? Reason i ask is because i haven't seen any on the 1 or 59 today
5516 is still here it's on the 1 heading towards dudley about 30 mins ago!
Quote from: pb2012 on July 15, 2014, 09:01:55 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 12, 2014, 11:29:38 AM
Have the remaining B5's transferred to BC today? Reason i ask is because i haven't seen any on the 1 or 59 today
5516 is still here it's on the 1 heading towards dudley about 30 mins ago!
Was just about to mention that ;) Can anybody confirm if the rest are at BC now? Are any E400H's still at BC. I did note 5405 today on the 1's.
5403 has been sticking to 59's for the past few days
Quote from: Nathan on July 15, 2014, 09:38:11 PM
Quote from: pb2012 on July 15, 2014, 09:01:55 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 12, 2014, 11:29:38 AM
Have the remaining B5's transferred to BC today? Reason i ask is because i haven't seen any on the 1 or 59 today
5516 is still here it's on the 1 heading towards dudley about 30 mins ago!
Was just about to mention that ;) Can anybody confirm if the rest are at BC now? Are any E400H's still at BC. I did note 5405 today on the 1's.
5403 has been sticking to 59's for the past few days
I lose track of what I've seen but 5515 is definitely at BC and I'm sure I saw 5511 today too. Not noticed 5512 or 5513 yet.
Quote from: Mike K on July 15, 2014, 09:57:40 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 15, 2014, 09:38:11 PM
Quote from: pb2012 on July 15, 2014, 09:01:55 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 12, 2014, 11:29:38 AM
Have the remaining B5's transferred to BC today? Reason i ask is because i haven't seen any on the 1 or 59 today
5516 is still here it's on the 1 heading towards dudley about 30 mins ago!
Was just about to mention that ;) Can anybody confirm if the rest are at BC now? Are any E400H's still at BC. I did note 5405 today on the 1's.
5403 has been sticking to 59's for the past few days
I lose track of what I've seen but 5515 is definitely at BC and I'm sure I saw 5511 today too. Not noticed 5512 or 5513 yet.
5513 left alongside 5510 and 5514.
Yes you're right, just not seen it for a few days.
5516 hanging onto its wn home. on the 1 again today. not sure if this is the last b5 left?
Quote from: mranon on July 16, 2014, 09:28:49 PM
5516 hanging onto its wn home. on the 1 again today. not sure if this is the last b5 left?
I'm pretty sure it is. Haven't seen 5515 since it appeared on the 59 last Friday.
Quote from: Nathan on July 16, 2014, 09:53:19 PM
Quote from: mranon on July 16, 2014, 09:28:49 PM
5516 hanging onto its wn home. on the 1 again today. not sure if this is the last b5 left?
I'm pretty sure it is. Haven't seen 5515 since its day on the 59 on Friday.
My Cousin Michelle told me she may have seen 5515 today but she's not 100% sure :)
Quote from: Rob on July 16, 2014, 09:56:24 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 16, 2014, 09:53:19 PM
Quote from: mranon on July 16, 2014, 09:28:49 PM
5516 hanging onto its wn home. on the 1 again today. not sure if this is the last b5 left?
I'm pretty sure it is. Haven't seen 5515 since its day on the 59 on Friday.
My Cousin Michelle told me she may have seen 5515 today but she's not 100% sure :)
5515 is at BC, see post at the bottom of the previous page. It was on the 22/23 on Monday.
Quote from: mranon on July 16, 2014, 09:28:49 PM
5516 hanging onto its wn home. on the 1 again today. not sure if this is the last b5 left?
Only 5418 is still at BC, so probably. 5418 wasn't out today, so swop will no doubt happen when 5418 is fit!
Quote from: Tony on July 16, 2014, 10:30:25 PM
Quote from: mranon on July 16, 2014, 09:28:49 PM
5516 hanging onto its wn home. on the 1 again today. not sure if this is the last b5 left?
Only 5418 is still at BC, so probably. 5418 wasn't out today, so swop will no doubt happen when 5418 is fit!
5418? That's a WN E400H. Typo error for 5408?
Yes typo - tired 5408
Quote from: Nathan on July 16, 2014, 10:33:46 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 16, 2014, 10:30:25 PM
Quote from: mranon on July 16, 2014, 09:28:49 PM
5516 hanging onto its wn home. on the 1 again today. not sure if this is the last b5 left?
Only 5418 is still at BC, so probably. 5418 wasn't out today, so swop will no doubt happen when 5418 is fit!
5418? That's a WN E400H. Typo error for 5408?
That's quite a typo, the 0 and 1 are at opposite ends of the keyboard! Unless you use a numberpad.
I wonder if they will put 5516 on the 59 before going to BC like they did 5515
I've been told that 2016 has had its rear advert removed.
Quote from: jack5512 on July 17, 2014, 06:20:21 AM
I wonder if they will put 5516 on the 59 before going to BC like they did 5515
Its at BC now so definitely not lol ;)
about time 2016 had its add removed or replaced, its been peeling off the rear window for a few weeks around the edges
1661 in service on the 82 just went past me on Burton road and down Eve lane in upper gornal ?
I'm guessing theres a diversion and the driver hasn't got lost lol
Just saw 5408 on for myself on the 1 about 5 mins ago
Get your last ride on 2 WN vehicles tomorrow before they get withdrawn.
Quote from: BN on July 18, 2014, 05:16:47 PM
Get your last ride on 2 WN vehicles tomorrow before they get withdrawn.
Which ones and what are they expected on tomorrow?
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 18, 2014, 05:19:06 PM
Quote from: BN on July 18, 2014, 05:16:47 PM
Get your last ride on 2 WN vehicles tomorrow before they get withdrawn.
Which ones and what are they expected on tomorrow?
My bet is that they are Spectra's being withdrawn!
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 18, 2014, 05:51:53 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 18, 2014, 05:19:06 PM
Quote from: BN on July 18, 2014, 05:16:47 PM
Get your last ride on 2 WN vehicles tomorrow before they get withdrawn.
Which ones and what are they expected on tomorrow?
My bet is that they are Spectra's being withdrawn!
More than likely mercs considering all will be gone by August. I'd imagine with PVR decreases due to the implementation of summer timetables means we can withdraw a couple of buses without replacement
Quote from: Nathan on July 18, 2014, 06:13:03 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 18, 2014, 05:51:53 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 18, 2014, 05:19:06 PM
Quote from: BN on July 18, 2014, 05:16:47 PM
Get your last ride on 2 WN vehicles tomorrow before they get withdrawn.
Which ones and what are they expected on tomorrow?
My bet is that they are Spectra's being withdrawn!
More than likely mercs considering all will be gone by August. I'd imagine with PVR decreases due to the implementation of summer timetables means we can withdraw a couple of buses without replacement
There is no truth in the rumour that all of Wolverrhampton's Mercedes will be withdrawn in August, however referring to BN's original post it is quite possible that 1650 & 1660 will be in service tomorrow for the final time (not 100% it is possible they could hang on a few more days) So if anyone wants a last ride on those two I should get to Wolverhampton
with 3 spectras being withdrawn i'd have thought it might be 4001/2 as they are significant, but surely a merc withdrawal wouldnt create a sudden urge to ride them lol
Quote from: Tony on July 18, 2014, 08:48:57 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 18, 2014, 06:13:03 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 18, 2014, 05:51:53 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 18, 2014, 05:19:06 PM
Quote from: BN on July 18, 2014, 05:16:47 PM
Get your last ride on 2 WN vehicles tomorrow before they get withdrawn.
Which ones and what are they expected on tomorrow?
My bet is that they are Spectra's being withdrawn!
More than likely mercs considering all will be gone by August. I'd imagine with PVR decreases due to the implementation of summer timetables means we can withdraw a couple of buses without replacement
There is no truth in the rumour that all of Wolverrhampton's Mercedes will be withdrawn in August, however referring to BN's original post it is quite possible that 1650 & 1660 will be in service tomorrow for the final time (not 100% it is possible they could hang on a few more days) So if anyone wants a last ride on those two I should get to Wolverhampton
Not by the end of August but end of September
Today (Saturday 19th July)
1650 is on the 25A/C if anybody on here wants to find it. Pulled into Wolverhampton Bus Station at 08:35 ready to work a 25A
Quote from: Nathan on July 18, 2014, 09:02:23 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 18, 2014, 08:48:57 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 18, 2014, 06:13:03 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 18, 2014, 05:51:53 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 18, 2014, 05:19:06 PM
Quote from: BN on July 18, 2014, 05:16:47 PM
Get your last ride on 2 WN vehicles tomorrow before they get withdrawn.
Which ones and what are they expected on tomorrow?
My bet is that they are Spectra's being withdrawn!
More than likely mercs considering all will be gone by August. I'd imagine with PVR decreases due to the implementation of summer timetables means we can withdraw a couple of buses without replacement
There is no truth in the rumour that all of Wolverrhampton's Mercedes will be withdrawn in August, however referring to BN's original post it is quite possible that 1650 & 1660 will be in service tomorrow for the final time (not 100% it is possible they could hang on a few more days) So if anyone wants a last ride on those two I should get to Wolverhampton
Not by the end of August but end of September
That's not correct either
Ok :) Cheers for letting me know. What i was told was incorrect then
Is there anything good on tonights 25/27?
Also does anybody know where 508, 555, 598, 634, 639, 1660, 1669, 1682 are today? I am setting out in a little while and apoligies for the long list but thanks in advance to anybody who can help
Quote from: Ashley on July 19, 2014, 09:08:23 AM
Is there anything good on tonights 25/27?
Also does anybody know where 508, 555, 598, 634, 639, 1660, 1669, 1682 are today? I am setting out in a little while and apoligies for the long list but thanks in advance to anybody who can help
There is usually a B6 on the 19:25 25C which then does the 21:45 27 from Wolverhampton.
And 1682 has just pulled in on the 25A (Will do the 9:35 25C)
If anyone is looking for the two death row Mercs today
1650 is in 25a/c as Nathan says above
1660 is on the 81
Quote from: Ashley on July 19, 2014, 09:08:23 AM
Is there anything good on tonights 25/27?
Also does anybody know where 508, 555, 598, 634, 639, 1660, 1669, 1682 are today? I am setting out in a little while and apoligies for the long list but thanks in advance to anybody who can help
1650 is to work late night 25/7's
508 is on the 62/A
598 is on the 82
634 is on the 28
1669 is having a day on the 2
1660 is on the 81
1682 is on the 25A/C
Quote from: Nathan on July 19, 2014, 09:16:23 AM
Quote from: Ashley on July 19, 2014, 09:08:23 AM
Is there anything good on tonights 25/27?
Also does anybody know where 508, 555, 598, 634, 639, 1660, 1669, 1682 are today? I am setting out in a little while and apoligies for the long list but thanks in advance to anybody who can help
There is usually a B6 on the 19:25 25C which then does the 21:45 27 from Wolverhampton.
And 1682 has just pulled in on the 25A (Will do the 9:35 25C)
634 is on WN 28
Quote from: jack5512 on July 19, 2014, 12:23:24 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 19, 2014, 09:16:23 AM
Quote from: Ashley on July 19, 2014, 09:08:23 AM
Is there anything good on tonights 25/27?
Also does anybody know where 508, 555, 598, 634, 639, 1660, 1669, 1682 are today? I am setting out in a little while and apoligies for the long list but thanks in advance to anybody who can help
There is usually a B6 on the 19:25 25C which then does the 21:45 27 from Wolverhampton.
And 1682 has just pulled in on the 25A (Will do the 9:35 25C)
634 is on WN 28
Mentioned Above mate :)
1660 is on the 13:30 81 from Wolverhampton if anybody still wants to find it?
Quote from: Nathan on July 19, 2014, 12:27:29 PM
1660 is on the 13:30 81 from Wolverhampton if anybody still wants to find it?
Not any more been replaced by a B7RLE.
Quote from: NXDom on July 19, 2014, 01:57:13 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 19, 2014, 12:27:29 PM
1660 is on the 13:30 81 from Wolverhampton if anybody still wants to find it?
Not any more been replaced by a B7RLE.
Can't have done. It departed on the 13:30 trip and i got off in Dudley at 13:05
Quote from: Nathan on July 19, 2014, 01:58:52 PM
Quote from: NXDom on July 19, 2014, 01:57:13 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 19, 2014, 12:27:29 PM
1660 is on the 13:30 81 from Wolverhampton if anybody still wants to find it?
Not any more been replaced by a B7RLE.
Can't have done. It departed on the 13:30 trip and i got off in Dudley at 13:05
Do you mean 12:30?
Quote from: NXDom on July 19, 2014, 02:26:45 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 19, 2014, 01:58:52 PM
Quote from: NXDom on July 19, 2014, 01:57:13 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 19, 2014, 12:27:29 PM
1660 is on the 13:30 81 from Wolverhampton if anybody still wants to find it?
Not any more been replaced by a B7RLE.
Can't have done. It departed on the 13:30 trip and i got off in Dudley at 13:05
Do you mean 12:30?
Yes sorry typo error. I meant the 12:30
Quote from: Nathan on July 19, 2014, 02:41:32 PM
Quote from: NXDom on July 19, 2014, 02:26:45 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 19, 2014, 01:58:52 PM
Quote from: NXDom on July 19, 2014, 01:57:13 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 19, 2014, 12:27:29 PM
1660 is on the 13:30 81 from Wolverhampton if anybody still wants to find it?
Not any more been replaced by a B7RLE.
Can't have done. It departed on the 13:30 trip and i got off in Dudley at 13:05
Do you mean 12:30?
Yes sorry typo error. I meant the 12:30
Haha I was gonna say a B7 came past my house at 13:54.
Yes there was a B7 on that trip although i cannot remember the fleet number.
Quote from: BN on July 18, 2014, 05:16:47 PM
Get your last ride on 2 WN vehicles tomorrow before they get withdrawn.
1650 and 1660 were still hanging on in service yesterday. Both on the routes they were working on Saturday
Apologies for jumping back a few days but I got 1682 back to my hotel on Saturday night working the 20:45 from Wolverhampton to Dudley route 27 which struck me as being very late for a Merc to be out on a Saturday night or maybe not unusual as it was my first time to stay in Wolverhampton.
Quote from: 4130Quinton on July 22, 2014, 11:43:02 AM
Apologies for jumping back a few days but I got 1682 back to my hotel on Saturday night working the 20:45 from Wolverhampton to Dudley route 27 which struck me as being very late for a Merc to be out on a Saturday night or maybe not unusual as it was my first time to stay in Wolverhampton.
The 25/27 services interwork at night (And on Sundays) so Mercs off daytime 25's will work the 27 if booked on a late night board. There is usually at least one B6LE on Saturday night 25/7's which comes off a daytime 27/A too alongside a Trident
Spectra's stay out on evening 11/32/33's too
very full 2071 seen heading through Bearwood towards Wolverhampton around 21:20 ish tonight!
4609 is currently having a new engine fitted after the last one 'blew'
Quote from: 4130Quinton on July 22, 2014, 11:43:02 AM
Apologies for jumping back a few days but I got 1682 back to my hotel on Saturday night working the 20:45 from Wolverhampton to Dudley route 27 which struck me as being very late for a Merc to be out on a Saturday night or maybe not unusual as it was my first time to stay in Wolverhampton.
I was on 1682 on that journey as well. I boarded at Sedgley for Dudley then did two more Mercs on the 243 and 276.
1650 and 1660 aren't withdrawn. Have been told they're still in traffic
Quote from: Ashley on July 26, 2014, 08:43:14 AM
Quote from: 4130Quinton on July 22, 2014, 11:43:02 AM
Apologies for jumping back a few days but I got 1682 back to my hotel on Saturday night working the 20:45 from Wolverhampton to Dudley route 27 which struck me as being very late for a Merc to be out on a Saturday night or maybe not unusual as it was my first time to stay in Wolverhampton.
I was on 1682 on that journey as well. I boarded at Sedgley for Dudley then did two more Mercs on the 243 and 276.
1650 and 1660 aren't withdrawn. Have been told they're still in traffic
Haven't seen 1650/60 since Monday plus with Tony posting that they are now out of use
Quote from: Ashley on July 26, 2014, 08:43:14 AM
Quote from: 4130Quinton on July 22, 2014, 11:43:02 AM
Apologies for jumping back a few days but I got 1682 back to my hotel on Saturday night working the 20:45 from Wolverhampton to Dudley route 27 which struck me as being very late for a Merc to be out on a Saturday night or maybe not unusual as it was my first time to stay in Wolverhampton.
I was on 1682 on that journey as well. I boarded at Sedgley for Dudley then did two more Mercs on the 243 and 276.
1650 and 1660 aren't withdrawn. Have been told they're still in traffic
They have been withdrawn, unless your source is from engineering nobody would know really.
are the mercs at wn priority for withdrawal/replacement here?
:D
Quote from: mranon on July 26, 2014, 06:19:50 PM
are the mercs at wn priority for withdrawal/replacement here?
Well the TWM livered ones at least.
Quote from: Nathan on July 26, 2014, 06:54:42 PM
:DQuote from: mranon on July 26, 2014, 06:19:50 PM
are the mercs at wn priority for withdrawal/replacement here?
Well the TWM livered ones at least.
I was told by one of the engineers at the open day that the last Mercs would go in September so I suppose we will just have to see if that timescale works out....
Quote from: 4130Quinton on July 26, 2014, 08:23:16 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 26, 2014, 06:54:42 PM
:DQuote from: mranon on July 26, 2014, 06:19:50 PM
are the mercs at wn priority for withdrawal/replacement here?
Well the TWM livered ones at least.
I was told by one of the engineers at the open day that the last Mercs would go in September so I suppose we will just have to see if that timescale works out....
Yes i was there too :) As i say the TWM ones will go but i guess its a case of us waiting and seeing what happens. It depends on if WN get new buses or cascades and how many. Unfortunately i am as clueless as everybody else about the new buses. NX's priority is to have all the fleet in one livery as soon as possible so getting rid of the Mercs will cut the number of buses in TWM by quite a bit.
Are all the unbranded E400H's in the garage today? Not one so far on the 59. First bus was 4577 and this trip is always a hybrid
A route extension idea for 3 castlecroft to fordhouses once an hour extend from fordhouses to Penkridge (X3 maybe?) So there is a every 30 mins frequency between wolves and penkridge with arriva's 76?
Quote from: Chris2301 on July 30, 2014, 02:59:40 PM
A route extension idea for 3 castlecroft to fordhouses once an hour extend from fordhouses to Penkridge (X3 maybe?) So there is a every 30 mins frequency between wolves and penkridge with arriva's 76?
Be a waste of diesel. With Arriva's 76 plus Select's 877/878 coupled with an as you'd expect low level of bus use in that area. I can see the logic but it wouldn't catch on IMO
2 hybrid and trident combos on the 59 atm one to ashmore and one from
Quote from: NXDom on July 31, 2014, 11:45:44 AM
2 hybrid and trident combos on the 59 atm one to ashmore and one from
Something i happen to see most days....
Saw a WN Trident going through Pensnett this afternoon (sorry was driving so couldn't get fleet number), but it appeared to be having problem with its destination display being on route 255555.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 31, 2014, 09:35:37 PM
Saw a WN Trident going through Pensnett this afternoon (sorry was driving so couldn't get fleet number), but it appeared to be having problem with its destination display being on route 255555.
On Wednesday BC 4614 showed something similar to that it was arriving in Chelmsley Wood on Route 14 displaying 1414 but it corrected itself when leaving Chelmsley Wood. :)
any reason 5415 was parked up at least 5 minutes at the side of iceland in sedgley then did sedgley to tettenhall wood.
Quote from: Rob on August 01, 2014, 02:38:02 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 31, 2014, 09:35:37 PM
Saw a WN Trident going through Pensnett this afternoon (sorry was driving so couldn't get fleet number), but it appeared to be having problem with its destination display being on route 255555.
On Wednesday BC 4614 showed something similar to that it was arriving in Chelmsley Wood on Route 14 displaying 1414 but it corrected itself when leaving Chelmsley Wood. :)
How weird! I saw Silverline's YJ56APU in Acocks Green earlier this afternoon with a bizarre '36363636363636' split scrolling display!
Quote from: Andrew on August 01, 2014, 06:42:50 PM
any reason 5415 was parked up at least 5 minutes at the side of iceland in sedgley then did sedgley to tettenhall wood.
Maybe he was running late so was adjusted to run dead to Sedgley and pick up schedule there?
4603's front destination display needs fixing.
http://i57.tinypic.com/b3vkgx.jpg
Quote from: P419 EJW on August 02, 2014, 07:08:54 PM
4603's front destination display needs fixing.
http://i57.tinypic.com/b3vkgx.jpg
Its been like that for a while. Mentioned it to an inspector and Engineer at Wolverhampton Bus Station the other day
All 6 buses on the 59 today are E400H's. I must say i see the 59's every Sunday and i don't recall it being fully hybrid operated before today.
The closest i've seen is when we had all of 5510-14 on here with a Trident.
Quote from: P419 EJW on August 02, 2014, 07:08:54 PM
4603's front destination display needs fixing.
http://i57.tinypic.com/b3vkgx.jpg
So does the gearbox lol
Quote from: 4006 on August 03, 2014, 12:41:26 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on August 02, 2014, 07:08:54 PM
4603's front destination display needs fixing.
http://i57.tinypic.com/b3vkgx.jpg
So does the gearbox lol
4590 needs its gearbox looking at too. Appears to have the same problem as 4603
Had 4590 to Dudley one morning last week on a 126e, was horrible, although upstairs it has acquired an older bos stopping sign
Just to ask wheres the tv gone from 4564 https://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/14625971817/
Quote from: Nathan on August 03, 2014, 11:54:18 AM
All 6 buses on the 59 today are E400H's. I must say i see the 59's every Sunday and i don't recall
The closest i've seen is when we had all of 5510-14 on here with a Trident.
WN2025 is on 59 now
Quote from: NXDom on August 03, 2014, 03:25:04 PM
Just to ask wheres the tv gone from 4564 https://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/14625971817/
That reminds me AG 4655 has had its TV Screen removed aswell.
4564 looks much better without the disused screen
Quote from: Ashley on August 03, 2014, 06:23:13 PM
4564 looks much better without the disused screen
Maybe they are planning to remove them from all of 4535-4609 in the near future :)
Quote from: Nathan on August 03, 2014, 06:33:38 PM
Quote from: Ashley on August 03, 2014, 06:23:13 PM
4564 looks much better without the disused screen
Maybe they are planning to remove them from all of 4535-4609 in the near future :)
take them out of all of 450x to 4696
Quote from: Chris2301 on August 03, 2014, 04:38:13 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 03, 2014, 11:54:18 AM
All 6 buses on the 59 today are E400H's. I must say i see the 59's every Sunday and i don't recall
The closest i've seen is when we had all of 5510-14 on here with a Trident.
WN2025 is on 59 now
What time did this come onto the 59 ?
Quote from: Nathan4775 on August 03, 2014, 08:51:01 PM
Quote from: Chris2301 on August 03, 2014, 04:38:13 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 03, 2014, 11:54:18 AM
All 6 buses on the 59 today are E400H's. I must say i see the 59's every Sunday and i don't recall
The closest i've seen is when we had all of 5510-14 on here with a Trident.
WN2025 is on 59 now
What time did this come onto the 59 ?
Around 4.45 I was just on the 27 as the 2025 departed on 59
Quote from: Nathan4775 on August 03, 2014, 08:51:01 PM
Quote from: Chris2301 on August 03, 2014, 04:38:13 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 03, 2014, 11:54:18 AM
All 6 buses on the 59 today are E400H's. I must say i see the 59's every Sunday and i don't recall
The closest i've seen is when we had all of 5510-14 on here with a Trident.
WN2025 is on 59 now
What time did this come onto the 59 ?
It will do the last 59 of the night from Wolverhampton at 23:24. 2025 replaced 5407
One Nathan may want to hes about, 5401 on 3/07 Today
Quote from: Ashley on August 04, 2014, 05:30:06 PM
One Nathan may want to hes about, 5401 on 3/07 Today
Damn it! Missed that completely today. Thanks for letting me though as until now i didn't know about it.
Green Machine 5404 seen being hooked up to a Mansnfield Truck on Wednesfield Rd at 17:55. 2023 replaced 5404 on the 59
Quote from: Nathan on August 04, 2014, 06:42:49 PM
Quote from: Ashley on August 04, 2014, 05:30:06 PM
One Nathan may want to hes about, 5401 on 3/07 Today
Damn it! Missed that completely today. Thanks for letting me though as until now i didn't know about it.
Green Machine 5404 seen being hooked up to a Mansnfield Truck on Wednesfield Rd at 17:55. 2023 replaced 5404 on the 59
Those ex BC E400Hs sound like they're having a few reliability problems at the moment. Didn't see too many of them broken down other than in their early days at BC.
I have noticed a few going back to garage for whatever reason.
In other news (Although it won't be of interest to some) 4006 is enjoying a late night trip on the 59 tonight which is actually a rare thing to see even though late night board 59/09 keeps having Spectra's allocated to it, however these always get swapped for a Trident, E400H or B7RLE.
A Spectra has been on one of the late boards on the 59 for the past 3 days now. Where are all the 540*'s? They've just disappeared off the route. Not all of them are required for the 1 (And even if there are 1 or 2 on the 126 there should be a couple spare)
So 818 is here for type training (according to Nathan - WB garage thread). Does this mean E200s are expected? Presumably B6 or maybe Merc replacements?
Quote from: Nathan on August 06, 2014, 08:30:57 PM
A Spectra has been on one of the late boards on the 59 for the past 3 days now. Where are all the 540*'s? They've just disappeared off the route. Not all of them are required for the 1 (And even if there are 1 or 2 on the 126 there should be a couple spare)
Because hyberheaps are just crap, thats why they shouldn't be on Mansfield trucks, should be on the PVS trucks instead. The unreliability is causing me especially a great deal of inconvinience on a daily basis. Bring back Metros and Fleetlines.
Quote from: don on August 06, 2014, 11:03:52 PM
So 818 is here for type training (according to Nathan - WB garage thread). Does this mean E200s are expected? Presumably B6 or maybe Merc replacements?
I believe the E200's are replacing B6LE's but this also suggests that WN aren't planning to withdraw routes 62/62A as a previous rumour stated WN were to have 6 LWB E200's, three for the 62/62A, 2 for the 28 with one spare. That's most likely changed but we'll see. Good days are slowly coming to an end in these parts
Surely if they were for the 28 and 62 then they would be SWB?
Quote from: Nathan on August 06, 2014, 11:11:17 PM
Surely if they were for the 28 and 62 then they would be SWB?
Variable patronage on all three routes slowly increasing on the latter two generally speaking rather than from peoples personal observations, plus SWB would be abit useless if they went onto busier routes for example the 3. LWB could also be seen as impractical yet at the same time, B7RLE's replaced Excels of various lengths, and B6LE's replaced Solo's so you can possibly see where I'm heading with this trail of thought, As I said, we may be getting more than six but we all know rumours can be hearsay but can also happen
Quote from: Ashley on August 06, 2014, 11:07:48 PM
Because hyberheaps are just crap, thats why they shouldn't be on Mansfield trucks, should be on the PVS trucks instead. The unreliability is causing me especially a great deal of inconvinience on a daily basis. Bring back Metros and Fleetlines.
To be fair the B5s over this way seem fine from a reliability perspective, rarely see any problems - 22/23 almost full hybrid operation lately with just the odd E400 supplementing.
Could the wolverhampton enviros be for the 82 instead of the 28/62 (which hasn't been confirmed yet their allocation has it?
Quote from: the trainbasher on August 07, 2014, 02:52:41 PM
Could the wolverhampton enviros be for the 82 instead of the 28/62 (which hasn't been confirmed yet their allocation has it?
Expect them on most routes that are currently operated by B6's and Mercs. I hear we are to receive 14 sometime this month to see off the B6's. I was told the TWM livered Mercs were going by September too so maybe some Tridents will be cascaded from BC to replace these
Quote from: Nathan on August 07, 2014, 03:54:47 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on August 07, 2014, 02:52:41 PM
Could the wolverhampton enviros be for the 82 instead of the 28/62 (which hasn't been confirmed yet their allocation has it?
Expect them on most routes that are currently operated by B6's and Mercs. I hear we are to receive 14 sometime this month to see off the B6's. I was told the TWM livered Mercs were going by September too so maybe some Tridents will be cascaded from BC to replace these
It is extremely unlikely WN will get any E200s this month
Quote from: Tony on August 07, 2014, 04:03:20 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 07, 2014, 03:54:47 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on August 07, 2014, 02:52:41 PM
Could the wolverhampton enviros be for the 82 instead of the 28/62 (which hasn't been confirmed yet their allocation has it?
Expect them on most routes that are currently operated by B6's and Mercs. I hear we are to receive 14 sometime this month to see off the B6's. I was told the TWM livered Mercs were going by September too so maybe some Tridents will be cascaded from BC to replace these
It is extremely unlikely WN will get any E200s this month
So when will they start arriving then? September i presume?
heard an announcement on bus for drivers to be type trained before end of august as these new e200s will be in use from then.
Will these e200's be new or cascaded and will they be lwb or swb also are they certainly coming before the end of september
Quote from: NXDom on August 07, 2014, 09:27:55 PM
Will these e200's be new or cascaded and will they be lwb or swb also are they certainly coming before the end of september
They will be brand new and i hear they are LWB. I was told by several people at WN that they were due at the end of the month but reading Tony's post i don't think they will be hear till September
Quote from: Nathan on August 07, 2014, 10:00:55 PM
Quote from: NXDom on August 07, 2014, 09:27:55 PM
Will these e200's be new or cascaded and will they be lwb or swb also are they certainly coming before the end of september
They will be brand new and i hear they are LWB. I was told by several people at WN that they were due at the end of the month but reading Tony's post i don't think they will be hear till September
So they will be 8** fleetno. and THANK GOD I HAVE NO MORE B6'S TO SCHOOL
Quote from: NXDom on August 07, 2014, 10:09:16 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 07, 2014, 10:00:55 PM
Quote from: NXDom on August 07, 2014, 09:27:55 PM
Will these e200's be new or cascaded and will they be lwb or swb also are they certainly coming before the end of september
They will be brand new and i hear they are LWB. I was told by several people at WN that they were due at the end of the month but reading Tony's post i don't think they will be hear till September
So they will be 8** fleetno. and THANK GOD I HAVE NO MORE B6'S TO SCHOOL
Hey. :( Leave the B6s alone. Well, if it is true the E200s arrive in WN, I will avoid them like plague. I'll start catching WA 40 and 529. :P
Quote from: P419 EJW on August 07, 2014, 10:19:23 PM
Quote from: NXDom on August 07, 2014, 10:09:16 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 07, 2014, 10:00:55 PM
Quote from: NXDom on August 07, 2014, 09:27:55 PM
Will these e200's be new or cascaded and will they be lwb or swb also are they certainly coming before the end of september
They will be brand new and i hear they are LWB. I was told by several people at WN that they were due at the end of the month but reading Tony's post i don't think they will be hear till September
So they will be 8** fleetno. and THANK GOD I HAVE NO MORE B6'S TO SCHOOL
Hey. :( Leave the B6s alone. Well, if it is true the E200s arrive in WN, I will avoid them like plague. I'll start catching WA 40 and 529. :P
No no don't get me wrong I like b6's but can be as uncomfertable as a dog humping a cat. Why would you avoid new buses for a route that NEEDS them and I hope they get onto the 81
Quote from: NXDom on August 07, 2014, 10:21:58 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on August 07, 2014, 10:19:23 PM
Quote from: NXDom on August 07, 2014, 10:09:16 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 07, 2014, 10:00:55 PM
Quote from: NXDom on August 07, 2014, 09:27:55 PM
Will these e200's be new or cascaded and will they be lwb or swb also are they certainly coming before the end of september
They will be brand new and i hear they are LWB. I was told by several people at WN that they were due at the end of the month but reading Tony's post i don't think they will be hear till September
So they will be 8** fleetno. and THANK GOD I HAVE NO MORE B6'S TO SCHOOL
Hey. :( Leave the B6s alone. Well, if it is true the E200s arrive in WN, I will avoid them like plague. I'll start catching WA 40 and 529. :P
No no don't get me wrong I like b6's but can be as uncomfortable as a dog humping a cat. Why would you avoid new buses for a route that NEEDS them and I hope they get onto the 81
Yeah, I know B6s can be uncomfortable, if you sit on the single seat at the front or the middle seat at the back, it's all good. My home route is 82, the B6s are there most of the time. I only catch 82 because of the B6s. ;) When E200s come, I'll not catch 82.
Quote from: P419 EJW on August 07, 2014, 10:26:38 PM
Quote from: NXDom on August 07, 2014, 10:21:58 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on August 07, 2014, 10:19:23 PM
Quote from: NXDom on August 07, 2014, 10:09:16 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 07, 2014, 10:00:55 PM
Quote from: NXDom on August 07, 2014, 09:27:55 PM
Will these e200's be new or cascaded and will they be lwb or swb also are they certainly coming before the end of september
They will be brand new and i hear they are LWB. I was told by several people at WN that they were due at the end of the month but reading Tony's post i don't think they will be hear till September
So they will be 8** fleetno. and THANK GOD I HAVE NO MORE B6'S TO SCHOOL
Hey. :( Leave the B6s alone. Well, if it is true the E200s arrive in WN, I will avoid them like plague. I'll start catching WA 40 and 529. :P
No no don't get me wrong I like b6's but can be as uncomfortable as a dog humping a cat. Why would you avoid new buses for a route that NEEDS them and I hope they get onto the 81
Yeah, I know B6s can be uncomfortable, if you sit on the single seat at the front or the middle seat at the back, it's all good. My home route is 82, the B6s are there most of the time. I only catch 82 because of the B6s. ;) When E200s come, I'll not catch 82.
Well in 4 1/2 weeks I have to get it every weekday for near enough 10 months so yeah im really excited
I've just thought there will now be a chance of e200 on the 126, that would be sooooo funny. Just like when one was on the nine.
818 parked up at W'ton Bus Station again this morning for type training.
The garage note says they will be in service end of August and for use on the 27 28 & 81 and all routes on the weekends
Sorry Typo Note says 27 28 81 (not 82)
Quote from: 4006 on August 08, 2014, 11:34:18 AM
The garage note says they will be in service end of August and for use on the 27 28 & 82 and all routes on the weekends
I'd imagine they would be on the 62's aswell with the B6's going
Quote from: NXDom on August 07, 2014, 10:09:16 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 07, 2014, 10:00:55 PM
Quote from: NXDom on August 07, 2014, 09:27:55 PM
Will these e200's be new or cascaded and will they be lwb or swb also are they certainly coming before the end of september
They will be brand new and i hear they are LWB. I was told by several people at WN that they were due at the end of the month but reading Tony's post i don't think they will be hear till September
So they will be 8** fleetno. and THANK GOD I HAVE NO MORE B6'S TO SCHOOL
Yes I heard NX top manager was reading your comments on here so put it on the top of his list to upgrade your local route. I hear he's more then pleased to know you're finally happy and wishes you many happy years of travelling.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on August 08, 2014, 04:11:16 PM
Quote from: NXDom on August 07, 2014, 10:09:16 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 07, 2014, 10:00:55 PM
Quote from: NXDom on August 07, 2014, 09:27:55 PM
Will these e200's be new or cascaded and will they be lwb or swb also are they certainly coming before the end of september
They will be brand new and i hear they are LWB. I was told by several people at WN that they were due at the end of the month but reading Tony's post i don't think they will be hear till September
So they will be 8** fleetno. and THANK GOD I HAVE NO MORE B6'S TO SCHOOL
Yes I heard NX top manager was reading your comments on here so put it on the top of his list to upgrade your local route. I hear he's more then pleased to know you're finally happy and wishes you many happy years of travelling.
oh sorry am i not allowed to be happy about not having a specific type of bus and my local garage and route to be receiving and new set of buses?
Quote from: NXDom on August 08, 2014, 04:34:11 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on August 08, 2014, 04:11:16 PM
Quote from: NXDom on August 07, 2014, 10:09:16 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 07, 2014, 10:00:55 PM
Quote from: NXDom on August 07, 2014, 09:27:55 PM
Will these e200's be new or cascaded and will they be lwb or swb also are they certainly coming before the end of september
They will be brand new and i hear they are LWB. I was told by several people at WN that they were due at the end of the month but reading Tony's post i don't think they will be hear till September
So they will be 8** fleetno. and THANK GOD I HAVE NO MORE B6'S TO SCHOOL
Yes I heard NX top manager was reading your comments on here so put it on the top of his list to upgrade your local route. I hear he's more then pleased to know you're finally happy and wishes you many happy years of travelling.
oh sorry am i not allowed to be happy about not having a specific type of bus and my local garage and route to be receiving and new set of buses?
Yes you are and that's what ls was saying in his comments
Quote from: Ashley on August 08, 2014, 09:10:06 PM
Quote from: NXDom on August 08, 2014, 04:34:11 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on August 08, 2014, 04:11:16 PM
Quote from: NXDom on August 07, 2014, 10:09:16 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 07, 2014, 10:00:55 PM
Quote from: NXDom on August 07, 2014, 09:27:55 PM
Will these e200's be new or cascaded and will they be lwb or swb also are they certainly coming before the end of september
They will be brand new and i hear they are LWB. I was told by several people at WN that they were due at the end of the month but reading Tony's post i don't think they will be hear till September
So they will be 8** fleetno. and THANK GOD I HAVE NO MORE B6'S TO SCHOOL
Yes I heard NX top manager was reading your comments on here so put it on the top of his list to upgrade your local route. I hear he's more then pleased to know you're finally happy and wishes you many happy years of travelling.
oh sorry am i not allowed to be happy about not having a specific type of bus and my local garage and route to be receiving and new set of buses?
Yes you are and that's what ls was saying in his comments
Although I'll give him a week before the 'I want the B6's back' comments are posted... Ugh... E200's *shudder*
Sorry to change the subject but if anyone interested in the ex Bham B5's I saw them out this evening on the following routes (Sorry don't remember Fleet No.s)
11/25/33/126
Also a 529 branded trident on the 59
Quote from: 4006 on August 09, 2014, 12:56:57 AM
Sorry to change the subject but if anyone interested in the ex Bham B5's I saw them out this evening on the following routes (Sorry don't remember Fleet No.s)
11/25/33/126
Also a 529 branded trident on the 59
You mean ex-BC E400H's?
Quote from: Liverpool Street on August 09, 2014, 01:01:47 AM
Quote from: 4006 on August 09, 2014, 12:56:57 AM
Sorry to change the subject but if anyone interested in the ex Bham B5's I saw them out this evening on the following routes (Sorry don't remember Fleet No.s)
11/25/33/126
Also a 529 branded trident on the 59
You mean ex-BC E400H's?
Yes! and Thankyou!
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Quote from: 4006 on August 09, 2014, 12:56:57 AM
Sorry to change the subject but if anyone interested in the ex Bham B5's I saw them out this evening on the following routes (Sorry don't remember Fleet No.s)
11/25/33/126
Also a 529 branded trident on the 59
You mean ex-BC E400H's?
Yes! and Thankyou!
To answer your question the 529 branded Trident was 4598. Came out as a peak time extra (15:06 from garage)
4001 is on 79's today. Its pretty rare to see a Spectra out on this route on Saturdays
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Will these e200's be new or cascaded and will they be lwb or swb also are they certainly coming before the end of September
They will be brand new and i hear they are LWB. I was told by several people at WN that they were due at the end of the month but reading Tony's post i don't think they will be hear till September
So they will be 8** fleet no. and THANK GOD I HAVE NO MORE B6'S TO SCHOOL
Yes I heard NX top manager was reading your comments on here so put it on the top of his list to upgrade your local route. I hear he's more then pleased to know you're finally happy and wishes you many happy years of travelling.
oh sorry am i not allowed to be happy about not having a specific type of bus and my local garage and route to be receiving and new set of buses?
Yes you are and that's what ls was saying in his comments
Although I'll give him a week before the 'I want the B6's back' comments are posted... Ugh... E200's *shudder*
That's uncalled for I'll be completely honest here that is extremely rude a forum is there to voice your opinions and the fact every one is entitled to opinions. I posted an OPINION, MY PERSONAL OPINION, you don't have to agree with my opinion but respect it. Hence LS when you post your opinions I may not agree with them but I don't shoot you down. And then to go on and bitch about me It's unbelievable!
I don't think LS was attacking you, he was just stating that B6's are better than e200's in his opinion. I agree it is nice to have new buses on 'your' route but i'd rather have spectras on my route instead of 'green things'
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Will these e200's be new or cascaded and will they be lwb or swb also are they certainly coming before the end of September
They will be brand new and i hear they are LWB. I was told by several people at WN that they were due at the end of the month but reading Tony's post i don't think they will be hear till September
So they will be 8** fleet no. and THANK GOD I HAVE NO MORE B6'S TO SCHOOL
Yes I heard NX top manager was reading your comments on here so put it on the top of his list to upgrade your local route. I hear he's more then pleased to know you're finally happy and wishes you many happy years of travelling.
oh sorry am i not allowed to be happy about not having a specific type of bus and my local garage and route to be receiving and new set of buses?
Yes you are and that's what ls was saying in his comments
Although I'll give him a week before the 'I want the B6's back' comments are posted... Ugh... E200's *shudder*
That's uncalled for I'll be completely honest here that is extremely rude a forum is there to voice your opinions and the fact every one is entitled to opinions. I posted an OPINION, MY PERSONAL OPINION, you don't have to agree with my opinion but respect it. Hence LS when you post your opinions I may not agree with them but I don't shoot you down. And then to go on and bitch about me It's unbelievable!
I don't think LS was attacking you, he was just stating that B6's are better than e200's in his opinion. I agree it is nice to have new buses on 'your' route but i'd rather have spectras on my route instead of 'green things'
Ok granted I was being slightly extravagant and again I'd rather have e200's on my local route instead of b6's
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Quote from: NXDom on August 07, 2014, 09:27:55 PM
Will these e200's be new or cascaded and will they be lwb or swb also are they certainly coming before the end of September
They will be brand new and i hear they are LWB. I was told by several people at WN that they were due at the end of the month but reading Tony's post i don't think they will be hear till September
So they will be 8** fleet no. and THANK GOD I HAVE NO MORE B6'S TO SCHOOL
Yes I heard NX top manager was reading your comments on here so put it on the top of his list to upgrade your local route. I hear he's more then pleased to know you're finally happy and wishes you many happy years of travelling.
oh sorry am i not allowed to be happy about not having a specific type of bus and my local garage and route to be receiving and new set of buses?
Yes you are and that's what ls was saying in his comments
Although I'll give him a week before the 'I want the B6's back' comments are posted... Ugh... E200's *shudder*
That's uncalled for I'll be completely honest here that is extremely rude a forum is there to voice your opinions and the fact every one is entitled to opinions. I posted an OPINION, MY PERSONAL OPINION, you don't have to agree with my opinion but respect it. Hence LS when you post your opinions I may not agree with them but I don't shoot you down. And then to go on and bitch about me It's unbelievable!
I'm not quite sure what your issue is, fella. I'm stating the fact that you might want nice new E200's but they're really not all that good!
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Quote from: NXDom on August 07, 2014, 09:27:55 PM
Will these e200's be new or cascaded and will they be lwb or swb also are they certainly coming before the end of September
They will be brand new and i hear they are LWB. I was told by several people at WN that they were due at the end of the month but reading Tony's post i don't think they will be hear till September
So they will be 8** fleet no. and THANK GOD I HAVE NO MORE B6'S TO SCHOOL
Yes I heard NX top manager was reading your comments on here so put it on the top of his list to upgrade your local route. I hear he's more then pleased to know you're finally happy and wishes you many happy years of travelling.
oh sorry am i not allowed to be happy about not having a specific type of bus and my local garage and route to be receiving and new set of buses?
Yes you are and that's what ls was saying in his comments
Although I'll give him a week before the 'I want the B6's back' comments are posted... Ugh... E200's *shudder*
That's uncalled for I'll be completely honest here that is extremely rude a forum is there to voice your opinions and the fact every one is entitled to opinions. I posted an OPINION, MY PERSONAL OPINION, you don't have to agree with my opinion but respect it. Hence LS when you post your opinions I may not agree with them but I don't shoot you down. And then to go on and bitch about me It's unbelievable!
I'm not quite sure what your issue is, fella. I'm stating the fact that you might want nice new E200's but they're really not all
that good!
It was just the way you stated it and as you can't convey meaning through text (i.e. you can't show the way you mean something) I took it as if you where taking a dig at me and now you have explained it I understand and will delete my comments.
Quote from: mranon on August 07, 2014, 05:20:29 PM
heard an announcement on bus for drivers to be type trained before end of august as these new e200s will be in use from then.
For the sake of a couple of days, I would delay them being registered/entering in to service & take them as 64 plate from1st Sept onwards
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Quote from: mranon on August 07, 2014, 05:20:29 PM
heard an announcement on bus for drivers to be type trained before end of august as these new e200s will be in use from then.
For the sake of a couple of days, I would delay them being registered/entering in to service & take them as 64 plate from1st Sept onwards
The driver i spoke to the other day said they would be in service "after the August Bank Holiday"
5405 is on the 126 today
Quote from: John on August 09, 2014, 06:43:51 PM
5405 is on the 126 today
I saw it enter service late this afternoon. Hasn't been on all day.
Quote from: Nathan on August 09, 2014, 10:00:19 AM
4001 is on 79's today. Its pretty rare to see a Spectra out on this route on Saturdays
4001 and 4002 were both out on the 79 all day following each other on successive diagrams. Had them both! ;D
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Quote from: Nathan on August 09, 2014, 10:00:19 AM
4001 is on 79's today. Its pretty rare to see a Spectra out on this route on Saturdays
4001 and 4002 were both out on the 79 all day following each other on successive diagrams. Had them both! ;D
Noticed 4002 coming out of West Brom this afternoon :) You wait for ages for a Spectra to appear on a Saturday 79 and two turns up once :)
Quote from: 4006 on August 08, 2014, 11:34:18 AM
The garage note says they will be in service end of August and for use on the 27 28 & 81 and all routes on the weekends
Sorry Typo Note says 27 28 81 (not 82)
They'll make a racket going up Highbridge Road on the 81.
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Quote from: 4006 on August 08, 2014, 11:34:18 AM
The garage note says they will be in service end of August and for use on the 27 28 & 81 and all routes on the weekends
Sorry Typo Note says 27 28 81 (not 82)
They'll make a racket going up Highbridge Road on the 81.
If they struggle on the hill on the 222 by the hospital then imagine what they'll be like coming out of lodge farm, don't know what i'd prefer them on 81 or 82 although they'll probably be on both.
What's the chances of been out before like Week starting
17 august
Quote from: Solo1 on August 10, 2014, 12:53:14 PM
What's the chances of been out before like Week starting
17 august
Very unlikley-Impossible i would imagine if they won't be in service till end of August at the earliest
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What's the chances of been out before like Week starting
17 august
The delivery list I have has no deliveries to Wolverhampton garage in August, information passed to me from someone at West Bromwich who has seen a more recent list also suggests the same
could it be the garage being crafty trying to get drivers all type trained asap (my thinking is due to the school holidays/reduced pvr they have the opportunity to borrow a e200 to train on). this meaning that when buses do arrive, there will be little delay in them going into service
Quote from: mranon on August 10, 2014, 07:13:00 PM
could it be the garage being crafty trying to get drivers all type trained asap (my thinking is due to the school holidays/reduced pvr they have the opportunity to borrow a e200 to train on). this meaning that when buses do arrive, there will be little delay in them going into service
Yes I thought that also!
Wouldn't it have been better to have at least some of the buses in service this week to release some for V festival duties this weekend?
Quote from: 4006 on August 11, 2014, 01:13:37 AM
Quote from: mranon on August 10, 2014, 07:13:00 PM
could it be the garage being crafty trying to get drivers all type trained asap (my thinking is due to the school holidays/reduced pvr they have the opportunity to borrow a e200 to train on). this meaning that when buses do arrive, there will be little delay in them going into service
Yes I thought that also!
Wouldn't it have been better to have at least some of the buses in service this week to release some for V festival duties this weekend?
Bit difficult if they are not built
Quote from: Tony on August 11, 2014, 07:16:46 AM
Quote from: 4006 on August 11, 2014, 01:13:37 AM
Quote from: mranon on August 10, 2014, 07:13:00 PM
could it be the garage being crafty trying to get drivers all type trained asap (my thinking is due to the school holidays/reduced pvr they have the opportunity to borrow a e200 to train on). this meaning that when buses do arrive, there will be little delay in them going into service
Yes I thought that also!
Wouldn't it have been better to have at least some of the buses in service this week to release some for V festival duties this weekend?
Bit difficult if they are not built
Would these be ready for early September?
What is the difference between pe,wn tridents, as I went on 126 for the first time, as they are much better, fantastically smooth in my opinion
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 11, 2014, 02:21:47 PM
What is the difference between pe,wn tridents, as I went on 126 for the first time, as they are much better, fantastically smooth in my opinion
The majority of WN's Tridents are a few years younger.
PE's have a 3 speed Voith Gearboz
WN's 4310-14 and 4323/4 are pretty much the same
And WN's 4535-64 and 4585-4609 have a different gearbox to PE's (5 Speed ZF)
4323 and 4324 are both in service
4323-529
4324-126
There was a 529 branded Trident heading towards WB Garage this morning. Any ideas why it was heading there?
Also just went down Great Bridge St to find 6 branded 2073 being towed into Carlyle Bus & Coach with some of the rear and offside corner smashed in.
Quote from: Nathan on August 12, 2014, 10:08:57 AM
There was a 529 branded Trident heading towards WB Garage this morning. Any ideas why it was heading there?
Also just went down Great Bridge St to find 6 branded 2073 being towed into Carlyle Bus & Coach with some of the rear and offside corner smashed in.
I'm not 100% but I heard a bus on the 79 was defective and taken to WB to be 'looked at' maybe the 529 branded Trident had wondered onto the 79 or maybe it was been brought to replace the defective one at WB
P.S 4013 has been moved to the garage and is in the air at the moment, I believe being used for parts
Quote from: 4006 on August 13, 2014, 01:12:46 AM
Quote from: Nathan on August 12, 2014, 10:08:57 AM
There was a 529 branded Trident heading towards WB Garage this morning. Any ideas why it was heading there?
Also just went down Great Bridge St to find 6 branded 2073 being towed into Carlyle Bus & Coach with some of the rear and offside corner smashed in.
I'm not 100% but I heard a bus on the 79 was defective and taken to WB to be 'looked at' maybe the 529 branded Trident had wondered onto the 79 or maybe it was been brought to replace the defective one at WB
P.S 4013 has been moved to the garage and is in the air at the moment, I believe being used for parts
The next 79 went out as normal though
256 went into stourbridge at 11.40 and changed to not in service and drove back towards Wolverhampton
It's starting to look like the one way system in queen street is almost ready to be reversed, when this happens where will buses be running. I'm guessing service 25,28 & 59 will serve lichfield street instead of queen street. But with princess street closing to traffic, where will service 1 be re-routed to ?
Will services 3,4,69 & 89turn right into queen street from market street or will they be sent down bilston street and along pipers row ?
Quote from: Chris2301 on August 13, 2014, 11:48:41 AM
256 went into stourbridge at 11.40 and changed to not in service and drove back towards Wolverhampton
That's quite normal, they park opposite the tip in Stourbridge normally to await there next working.
There appeared to be a Spectra on the 256/7 today, saw it several times but couldn't catch the fleet number. (it was 4002 - Tony)
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Quote from: Chris2301 on August 13, 2014, 11:48:41 AM
256 went into stourbridge at 11.40 and changed to not in service and drove back towards Wolverhampton
That's quite normal, they park opposite the tip in Stourbridge normally to await there next working.
There appeared to be a Spectra on the 256/7 today, saw it several times but couldn't catch the fleet number.
Seems to be alot of Spectra's on peak workings/change buses atm. Seen Spectra's working peak 59's,79's,255's and 529's which would normally be Tridents
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 13, 2014, 07:41:42 PM
Quote from: Chris2301 on August 13, 2014, 11:48:41 AM
256 went into stourbridge at 11.40 and changed to not in service and drove back towards Wolverhampton
That's quite normal, they park opposite the tip in Stourbridge normally to await there next working.
There appeared to be a Spectra on the 256/7 today, saw it several times but couldn't catch the fleet number. (it was 4002 - Tony)
There have been major problems on the 256/257 this week due to roadworks at Camp Hill in Wordsley. I've been told that buses have been taking up to 40 minutes to get from Stream Road to Stourbridge due to Stop/Go boards causing gridlock. I have seen 2 Tridents from the 256 heading "Not In Service" into Wolverhampton this week to catch up time.
A few heavily etched vehicles at Wolverhampton ive noticed recently include 4547 4549 4568 4590 4592 4594 and 5418 and 2008 which has a floor tag. 4590 and 4592 have adorned the same scribbles since 2012
Quote from: Ashley on August 13, 2014, 08:28:40 PM
A few heavily etched vehicles at Wolverhampton ive noticed recently include 4547 4549 4568 4590 4592 4594 and 5418 and 2008 which has a floor tag. 4590 and 4592 have adorned the same scribbles since 2012
Well 4590/2/4 will have their etchings removed soon....
4324 is looking quite a state since it came back from BC. Earlier repaint which is starting to look tired and 4323 doesn't look that good either
2 Tridents on the WN3 and WN4
trident on the 3 was 4557
trident on the 4 wad 4574
Quote from: Roy on August 13, 2014, 08:12:47 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 13, 2014, 07:41:42 PM
Quote from: Chris2301 on August 13, 2014, 11:48:41 AM
256 went into stourbridge at 11.40 and changed to not in service and drove back towards Wolverhampton
That's quite normal, they park opposite the tip in Stourbridge normally to await there next working.
There appeared to be a Spectra on the 256/7 today, saw it several times but couldn't catch the fleet number. (it was 4002 - Tony)
There have been major problems on the 256/257 this week due to roadworks at Camp Hill in Wordsley. I've been told that buses have been taking up to 40 minutes to get from Stream Road to Stourbridge due to Stop/Go boards causing gridlock. I have seen 2 Tridents from the 256 heading "Not In Service" into Wolverhampton this week to catch up time.
The 2 sets of roadworks causes havoc penn road one way and stourbridge road ones. Waited around 50mins for a 256.
I know people who are travelling from K'ford to Stourbridge by 255 to Brierley Hill then 246 to Stourbridge because of the chaos on the A491. The Penn Road diversions don't seem to be causing too many problems as the 255 has been running mostly on time.
Yeah they have chose the right time to do the resurfacing work during the day would of made more sense doing the work at night
Quote from: Andrew on August 13, 2014, 11:55:56 AM
It's starting to look like the one way system in queen street is almost ready to be reversed, when this happens where will buses be running. I'm guessing service 25,28 & 59 will serve lichfield street instead of queen street. But with princess street closing to traffic, where will service 1 be re-routed to ?
Will services 3,4,69 & 89turn right into queen street from market street or will they be sent down bilston street and along pipers row ?
The following should apply:
Service 1 to Dudley - Lichfield street, Pipers Row, Bilston Street, Metro island 5th exit onto St. Georges Parade, left onto Snow Hill then Normal line of Route
Service 1 to Tettenhall - no change
Services 3 & 4 - Fordhouses & Pendeford
Market Street, Right Onto Queen Street, Left Pipers Row, Left Lichfield Street, right Princess Square then NLR
Services 3 & 4 To Castlecroft & Springhill - No Change
Service 25A/27/27A Same as Service 1 To Dudley but obviously leaving bus station, left onto Pipers Row
Service 25C Pipers Row, left Lichfield Street, Right Princess Square then NLR
Service 28 - Willenhall
Left from B.S onto Ring Road, right at traffic lights onto Wednesfield Road then NLR
Service 28 - Wolverhampton - No change
Service 59 - Ashmore Pk
Pipers Row, Tower Street, right onto Market Street, right onto Queen Street, Left Pipers Row continue onto Fryer Street, right Broad Street then NLR
Service 59 - Wolverhampton - No Change
Service 79 - West Brom & Service 81 - Merry Hill
Pipers Row, left Bilston Street NLR
Service 79 & 81 - Wolverhampton - no change
4555 was noted broken down on the Hagley Road (was a 126) City bound approx midday
For any spectra fans, 4001 will be out all night on 25a/25c/27. 2045 27 ex wolves
Quote from: Ashley on August 16, 2014, 12:40:06 PM
For any spectra fans, 4001 will be out all night on 25a/25c/27. 2045 27 ex wolves
i had a ride on it on the 10.41 departure from Bilston bus station it was a super fast ride
Quote from: Ashley on August 16, 2014, 12:40:06 PM
For any spectra fans, 4001 will be out all night on 25a/25c/27. 2045 27 ex wolves
Cheers for that Ash :) Was wondering whether 4001 was out on a late board. 4011 is also on the 25A/C today if anybody is interested
Quote from: Chris2301 on August 03, 2014, 04:38:13 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 03, 2014, 11:54:18 AM
All 6 buses on the 59 today are E400H's. I must say i see the 59's every Sunday and i don't recall
The closest i've seen is when we had all of 5510-14 on here with a Trident.
WN2025 is on 59 now
The 59 is fully Hybrid today. None have been swapped (yet!)
I was on the coming on to m54 yesterday from the m6 where I took over a 41XX trident going towards wolves. Duno if that was a transfer going to WN
Quote from: Chris2301 on August 18, 2014, 06:46:38 PM
I was on the coming on to m54 yesterday from the m6 where I took over a 41XX trident going towards wolves. Duno if that was a transfer going to WN
Just on the way to Weston Park for V Festival
Staffordshire website says the 6 is revised from 31 Aug - needless to say nothing on NWM website and can't find anything on NXWM either?
Quote from: mikestone on August 19, 2014, 08:47:00 PM
Staffordshire website says the 6 is revised from 31 Aug - needless to say nothing on NWM website and can't find anything on NXWM either?
When you say revised, Do you mean in terms of Route or timetable changes?
Timetable
Quote from: mikestone on August 19, 2014, 08:53:21 PM
Timetable
New timetable on Traveline, re timings across the day with some changes in running times it would seem.
Is 508 still in service or has it been withdrawn?
Quote from: NXDom on August 23, 2014, 01:50:42 PM
Is 508 still in service or has it been withdrawn?
It is still in service it just properly in garage
Quote from: NXDom on August 23, 2014, 01:50:42 PM
Is 508 still in service or has it been withdrawn?
I saw 508 last Saturday and haven't seen it since. :(
Quote from: P419 EJW on August 23, 2014, 02:34:12 PM
Quote from: NXDom on August 23, 2014, 01:50:42 PM
Is 508 still in service or has it been withdrawn?
I saw 508 last Saturday and haven't seen it since. :(
I would of looked on the main site but it won't let me get on for some reason.
Quote from: NXDom on August 23, 2014, 02:34:55 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on August 23, 2014, 02:34:12 PM
Quote from: NXDom on August 23, 2014, 01:50:42 PM
Is 508 still in service or has it been withdrawn?
I saw 508 last Saturday and haven't seen it since. :(
I would of looked on the main site but it won't let me get on for some reason.
Caught it on the 62 sometime in the week (Tuesday or Wednesday i think)
Have we also agreed that the B6's are going to be replaced by the 15 or 16 e200s (can't remember the exact number) and that the mercs are going early september
Quote from: NXDom on August 23, 2014, 05:52:54 PM
Have we also agreed that the B6's are going to be replaced by the 15 or 16 e200s (can't remember the exact number) and that the mercs are going early september
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=860.765
Lil problem on 529, there is 2 sitting in wolves station no driver and one big massive queue at stand Q...
Quote from: Chris2301 on August 23, 2014, 08:51:26 PM
Lil problem on 529, there is 2 sitting in wolves station no driver and one big massive queue at stand Q...
With a massive queue at Walsall but as per usual, evening supervisor nowhere to be found
Quote from: Chris2301 on August 23, 2014, 08:51:26 PM
Lil problem on 529, there is 2 sitting in wolves station no driver and one big massive queue at stand Q...
I was told there was a shortage of drivers or something this afternoon
Quote from: Nathan on August 23, 2014, 10:19:22 PM
Quote from: Chris2301 on August 23, 2014, 08:51:26 PM
Lil problem on 529, there is 2 sitting in wolves station no driver and one big massive queue at stand Q...
I was told there was a shortage of drivers or something this afternoon
I was surprised I was the only one who opted for the 89
4555 has just gone past me by coseley train station displaying Wolverhampton Garage. It had a few people on the lower deck and a few on the upper. There was a piece of paper in the lower right hand corner.of the windscreen but I couldn't see what it said.
Quote from: NXDom on August 24, 2014, 08:53:44 AM
4555 has just gone past me by coseley train station displaying Wolverhampton Garage. It had a few people on the lower deck and a few on the upper. There was a piece of paper in the lower right hand corner.of the windscreen but I couldn't see what it said.
Rail Replacement service maybe?
Quote from: NXDom on August 24, 2014, 08:53:44 AM
4555 has just gone past me by coseley train station displaying Wolverhampton Garage. It had a few people on the lower deck and a few on the upper. There was a piece of paper in the lower right hand corner.of the windscreen but I couldn't see what it said.
It's Bank Holiday Rail Replacement buddy.
Quote from: NXDom on August 24, 2014, 08:53:44 AM
4555 has just gone past me by coseley train station displaying Wolverhampton Garage. It had a few people on the lower deck and a few on the upper. There was a piece of paper in the lower right hand corner.of the windscreen but I couldn't see what it said.
It's operating rail replacement between Wolverhampton and Birmingham new street
It seems wired having two tridents on the 33/32 today as normally spectra's on the route.
4590/33
4545/32
Quote from: Driver03 on August 24, 2014, 09:50:40 AM
Quote from: NXDom on August 24, 2014, 08:53:44 AM
4555 has just gone past me by coseley train station displaying Wolverhampton Garage. It had a few people on the lower deck and a few on the upper. There was a piece of paper in the lower right hand corner.of the windscreen but I couldn't see what it said.
It's Bank Holiday Rail Replacement buddy.
Oh ok mate thought it was strange when I saw it :)
Quote from: jack5512 on August 26, 2014, 03:41:58 PM
It seems wired having two tridents on the 33/32 today as normally spectra's on the route.
4590/33
4545/32
4590 is still out this evening. Worked the 20:25 33 from Wolverhampton
4323 is on the 256/7 today
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 27, 2014, 02:30:31 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 26, 2014, 10:27:29 PM
Quote from: jack5512 on August 26, 2014, 03:41:58 PM
It seems wired having two tridents on the 33/32 today as normally spectra's on the route.
4590/33
4545/32
4590 is still out this evening. Worked the 20:25 33 from Wolverhampton
4323 is on the 256/7 today
Cheers for posting as i will try and find it later but i don't understand how the quote is linked to your post?
4323 was the 1435 256 ex wolvertrampton
Refurbished 4595 in service today on the 255 (1020 from Wolverhampton)
244 had nice shiny wheels while i was at park lane today
Guessing it's there for an m.o.t ?
Nothing has gone for refurbishment to replace 4595 yet. 4588/90/96 are on the 255 today, 4592 on the 256/7 and 4594 on the 126.
Whats the pvr of the 1?
Quote from: NXDom on August 30, 2014, 03:53:23 PM
Quote from: BN on August 30, 2014, 03:51:29 PM
Quote from: Andrew on August 30, 2014, 03:45:39 PM
Quote from: NXDom on August 30, 2014, 03:36:51 PM
Whats the pvr of the 1?
18 I think
21.
19 out all day and 20 & 21 start at 14:30ish
Cheers Lads :)
I presume that applies to School Term time (From Monday)?
In other news 4595 is out on 529's today. The TV screen on the lower deck has been removed
Shall be visiting Wolverhampton for the first time soon, what routes pass the garage?
Quote from: gc802002 on August 30, 2014, 10:28:34 PM
Shall be visiting Wolverhampton for the first time soon, what routes pass the garage?
From what I know, the 2 stops right outside it. There are others that are a short walk from the garage near the end of the road
Quote from: gc802002 on August 30, 2014, 10:28:34 PM
Shall be visiting Wolverhampton for the first time soon, what routes pass the garage?
The 2 (From Stand T at Wolverhampton Bus Station). NX11 and Arriva 70 also stop on the Cannock Rd at the bottom of Park Lane
Thanks for that guys, how far out is it?
Quote from: gc802002 on August 31, 2014, 09:57:55 AM
Thanks for that guys, how far out is it?
Cannock Rd is a short walk away but the 2 stops right outside the garage
Quote from: gc802002 on August 31, 2014, 09:57:55 AM
Thanks for that guys, how far out is it?
It's about a mile and a half and takes about 10 minutes from the Bus Station on the 2. After leaving the City Centre, the bus turns right and goes under the main railway line and along the Cannock Road. Just after a second railway bridge, it turns left at traffic lights into Park Lane. The garage is by the second bus stop along Park Lane.
3/07 (my funky 3) has got its Trident back, sadly kicking off with the shed that is 4606
Quote from: Ashley on September 01, 2014, 06:42:59 PM
3/07 (my funky 3) has got its Trident back, sadly kicking off with the shed that is 4606
Knowing PL they will put a Green Machine on at some point! They've been all over the place this afternoon.
Quote from: Nathan on September 01, 2014, 10:06:52 PM
Quote from: Ashley on September 01, 2014, 06:42:59 PM
3/07 (my funky 3) has got its Trident back, sadly kicking off with the shed that is 4606
Knowing PL they will put a Green Machine on at some point! They've been all over the place this afternoon.
5402 was on a 79E today @ 19.00 Bilston Road
Trident on the 126 broken down on Birmingham New Road just before the traffic lights for the Tipton turn off
2017 is on the 6 today but it has got a brand new advertisement in the rear
4325 is at park lane was on the 529 this morning then went back to garage
4308 on 529 today is the temporary or not
Quote from: jack5512 on September 05, 2014, 02:14:25 PM
4325 is at park lane was on the 529 this morning then went back to garage
4308 on 529 today is the temporary or not
4325 is permanent
What about 4308
Quote from: Tony on September 05, 2014, 02:25:13 PM
Quote from: jack5512 on September 05, 2014, 02:14:25 PM
4325 is at park lane was on the 529 this morning then went back to garage
4308 on 529 today is the temporary or not
4325 is permanent
Will 4326 be making the same move?
Quote from: Nathan on September 05, 2014, 03:47:18 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 05, 2014, 02:25:13 PM
Quote from: jack5512 on September 05, 2014, 02:14:25 PM
4325 is at park lane was on the 529 this morning then went back to garage
4308 on 529 today is the temporary or not
4325 is permanent
Will 4326 be making the same move?
No
Quote from: Tony on September 05, 2014, 02:25:13 PM
Quote from: jack5512 on September 05, 2014, 02:14:25 PM
4325 is at park lane was on the 529 this morning then went back to garage
4308 on 529 today is the temporary or not
4325 is permanent
I bet that looks different at Wolverhampton with its LED front display
Quote from: John on September 05, 2014, 08:13:38 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 05, 2014, 02:25:13 PM
Quote from: jack5512 on September 05, 2014, 02:14:25 PM
4325 is at park lane was on the 529 this morning then went back to garage
4308 on 529 today is the temporary or not
4325 is permanent
I bet that looks different at Wolverhampton with its LED front display
If you are on about 4325 the blind didn't show up that why i think it went back to garage and replaced with 4605 i think but the blind on 4325 didn't show
4325 is out today with a working blind on the 126.
Service 5 will be delayed or diverted atm due to what looks like a nasty RTA on the Codsall Rd. The road is cordoned off with lots of police and Ambulances in attendance
4325 is on the 79 today in Bilston at 8:03
4601 has had a small engine fire extinguished in walsall bus station
Quote from: Andrew on September 08, 2014, 04:26:59 PM
4601 has had a small engine fire extinguished in walsall bus station
What time did this happen? I was in Walsall just after 4.30 and didn't notice anything unusual!
Quote from: notepanel on September 08, 2014, 06:03:41 PM
Quote from: Andrew on September 08, 2014, 04:26:59 PM
4601 has had a small engine fire extinguished in walsall bus station
What time did this happen? I was in Walsall just after 4.30 and didn't notice anything unusual!
around 4:15
Quote from: Andrew on September 08, 2014, 06:23:40 PM
Quote from: notepanel on September 08, 2014, 06:03:41 PM
Quote from: Andrew on September 08, 2014, 04:26:59 PM
4601 has had a small engine fire extinguished in walsall bus station
What time did this happen? I was in Walsall just after 4.30 and didn't notice anything unusual!
around 4:15
4601 was still there on the 529 stand at 17:34.
Quote from: P419 EJW on September 08, 2014, 06:43:04 PM
Quote from: Andrew on September 08, 2014, 06:23:40 PM
Quote from: notepanel on September 08, 2014, 06:03:41 PM
Quote from: Andrew on September 08, 2014, 04:26:59 PM
4601 has had a small engine fire extinguished in walsall bus station
What time did this happen? I was in Walsall just after 4.30 and didn't notice anything unusual!
around 4:15
4601 was still there on the 529 stand at 17:34.
In my defence I did go straight from the 997 drop off to Stands M-P! I did wonder why the 529's seemed to keep looping the station - if the stand was blocked that would explain why!
840 has entered service this morning on the 59. saw it at 08:31 on Lichfield Rd going towards W'ton. I think it may be out all day
Quote from: Nathan on September 09, 2014, 08:41:47 AM
840 has entered service this morning on the 59. saw it at 08:31 on Lichfield Rd going towards W'ton. I think it may be out all day
Unless it breaks down! :) :)
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 09, 2014, 05:27:29 PM
Quote from: Nathan on September 09, 2014, 08:41:47 AM
840 has entered service this morning on the 59. saw it at 08:31 on Lichfield Rd going towards W'ton. I think it may be out all day
Unless it breaks down! :) :)
It managed to stay out :)
841 on the WN3 Stafford Road now heading for Castlecroft @ 1810hrs
Quote from: Wumpty on September 09, 2014, 06:11:15 PM
841 on the WN3 Stafford Road now heading for Castlecroft @ 1810hrs
My bus home then on the funky 3/07, bet that was fun on the school trips
E200 on the 81, seen in Dudley at 0644 heading for Merry Hill
Quote from: Ashley on September 10, 2014, 06:45:50 AM
E200 on the 81, seen in Dudley at 0644 heading for Merry Hill
Its 841 mate :) See bottom post here:
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=3161.120
Quote from: Nathan on September 10, 2014, 10:45:13 AM
Quote from: Ashley on September 10, 2014, 06:45:50 AM
E200 on the 81, seen in Dudley at 0644 heading for Merry Hill
Its 841 mate :) See bottom post here:
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=3161.120
It might not be! see my post below yours
Quote from: Tony on September 10, 2014, 10:57:19 AM
Quote from: Nathan on September 10, 2014, 10:45:13 AM
Quote from: Ashley on September 10, 2014, 06:45:50 AM
E200 on the 81, seen in Dudley at 0644 heading for Merry Hill
Its 841 mate :) See bottom post here:
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=3161.120
It might not be! see my post below yours
It was probably 842 as this worked the 0945 from Merry Hill, which I think is the same board as the 0645 from Dudley to Merry Hill.
Quote from: Nathan on September 10, 2014, 10:45:13 AM
Quote from: Ashley on September 10, 2014, 06:45:50 AM
E200 on the 81, seen in Dudley at 0644 heading for Merry Hill
It could be any of them mate :)
EDIT: Cheers Roy for identifying the E200 as 842 :)
It might not be! see my post below yours
I have only just logged back on this lunchtime to see your post below mine. I've edited my post now :)
I had a ride on 841 bearlier on the 16:45 from merry hill. Nice ride when ever the bus was turning it sounded as if there was a kind of ball bearing loose in the roof. Overall like them didn't struggle on the hill out of lodge farm, unlike 4004 on saturday, fells strange to have on their and seeing them :)
Did anyone get a picture of these in service today?
Quote from: NXDom on September 10, 2014, 08:31:06 PM
Did anyone get a picture of these in service today?
I've got a picture on my phone of 841 from yesterday as it was my bus home
Quote from: Ashley on September 10, 2014, 08:35:54 PM
Quote from: NXDom on September 10, 2014, 08:31:06 PM
Did anyone get a picture of these in service today?
I've got a picture on my phone of 841 from yesterday as it was my bus home
Is it on flickr??
Quote from: NXDom on September 10, 2014, 08:44:12 PM
Quote from: Ashley on September 10, 2014, 08:35:54 PM
Quote from: NXDom on September 10, 2014, 08:31:06 PM
Did anyone get a picture of these in service today?
I've got a picture on my phone of 841 from yesterday as it was my bus home
Is it on flickr??
No I don't use Flickr, its on my facebook profile though
Quote from: NXDom on September 10, 2014, 08:31:06 PM
Did anyone get a picture of these in service today?
Got a photo of 840 on the 59 and 842 on the 11 on Tuesday and 843 on the 25C yesterday.
Which reminds me.... 843 went on to work a trip on the 25C about 17:35-17:45 from W'ton Bus Station due to interworking with the 27
841 on the 81 yesterday (shot taken on my phone)
http://www.busphotography.co.uk/picture.php?/3241/category/7
Quote from: the trainbasher on September 11, 2014, 11:26:05 PM
841 on the 81 yesterday (shot taken on my phone)
http://www.busphotography.co.uk/picture.php?/3241/category/7
What time was that?
Quote from: NXDom on September 12, 2014, 06:26:23 AM
Quote from: the trainbasher on September 11, 2014, 11:26:05 PM
841 on the 81 yesterday (shot taken on my phone)
http://www.busphotography.co.uk/picture.php?/3241/category/7
What time was that?
There was an E200 allocated to 81/03 yesterday
840 is on the 59 again this morning
842 is on the 82.
843 also on the 82
Also 3 more e200's have arrived today.
Quote from: Nathan on September 12, 2014, 08:00:50 AM
Quote from: NXDom on September 12, 2014, 06:26:23 AM
Quote from: the trainbasher on September 11, 2014, 11:26:05 PM
841 on the 81 yesterday (shot taken on my phone)
http://www.busphotography.co.uk/picture.php?/3241/category/7
What time was that?
There was an E200 allocated to 81/03 yesterday
840 is on the 59 again this morning
Taken 10/9 at 1915
5408 has been brand for the number 1
Quote from: jack4325 on September 12, 2014, 06:19:19 PM
5408 has been brand for the number 1
Managed to see 5408 this afternoon. Looks much smarter with the 1 branding. Had to double take the fleet number when i saw it as i just thought it was one of WN's own at first
What routes are the e200's out on today and are the 3 that were delivered yesterday going to be in service?
Quote from: NXDom on September 13, 2014, 08:06:27 AM
What routes are the e200's out on today and are the 3 that were delivered yesterday going to be in service?
they can appear on anything you just have to look out for them
Quote from: NXDom on September 13, 2014, 08:06:27 AM
What routes are the e200's out on today and are the 3 that were delivered yesterday going to be in service?
Haven't seen any out today as of yet but the 27's,81's and 82's might be a likely place to find them
Quote from: Nathan on September 13, 2014, 09:04:45 AM
Quote from: NXDom on September 13, 2014, 08:06:27 AM
What routes are the e200's out on today and are the 3 that were delivered yesterday going to be in service?
Haven't seen any out today as of yet but the 27's,81's and 82's might be a likely place to find them
From what I've seen there isn't one on the 81
What buses on 81? Any b6?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 13, 2014, 01:17:57 PM
What buses on 81? Any b6?
I've seen the usual mixture of Mercs and B7RLE's today (So far)
Todays B6 allocations so far today
28 - 598 634 640
62/62A - 620 633 662
Quote from: Nathan on September 12, 2014, 09:00:46 PM
Quote from: jack4325 on September 12, 2014, 06:19:19 PM
5408 has been brand for the number 1
Managed to see 5408 this afternoon. Looks much smarter with the 1 branding. Had to double take the fleet number when i saw it as i just thought it was one of WN's own at first
Is the branding identical to the 13 plates and have they removed the vinlys covering the rear windows?
Quote from: Ashley on September 13, 2014, 02:13:55 PM
Todays B6 allocations so far today
28 - 598 634 640
62/62A - 620 633 662
27 - 508
Saw 841 on the 27A in Dudley about 13:00, but I'm guessing this will be a usual route for them
Quote from: NXDom on September 13, 2014, 05:40:05 PM
Quote from: Ashley on September 13, 2014, 02:13:55 PM
Todays B6 allocations so far today
28 - 598 634 640
62/62A - 620 633 662
27 - 508
508 out on 25/27 circuit tonight
Quote from: Ashley on September 13, 2014, 07:49:09 PM
Quote from: NXDom on September 13, 2014, 05:40:05 PM
Quote from: Ashley on September 13, 2014, 02:13:55 PM
Todays B6 allocations so far today
28 - 598 634 640
62/62A - 620 633 662
27 - 508
508 out on 25/27 circuit tonight
Caught it on the 19:25 25C from W'ton. Alighted 5 mins ago in Wednesfield
alightly off topic, but 508 used to be my least elusive bus.
When it used to work on the 247/8, more often than not if i needed to catch the service along would come 508. It looked really smart after being refurbished.
Well 508 would spend most of its previous PE days on the 247/8 circular due to being fitted with a long range fuel tank
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on September 13, 2014, 08:21:07 PM
Well 508 would spend most of its previous PE days on the 247/8 circular due to being fitted with a long range fuel tank
That's correct, 501-8 & 544 were all generally allocated to the 247/8 due to having larger capacity fuel tanks, as buses were known to run out of fuel on those routes if out all day/night
Quote from: Winston on September 13, 2014, 09:14:57 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on September 13, 2014, 08:21:07 PM
Well 508 would spend most of its previous PE days on the 247/8 circular due to being fitted with a long range fuel tank
That's correct, 501-8 & 544 were all generally allocated to the 247/8 due to having larger capacity fuel tanks, as buses were known to run out of fuel on those routes if out all day/night
Yes was quite common around 7 to 8pm for the drivers of non long range B6s to get radio messages telling them there would be a replacement bus waiting at Russells Hall Hospital as they were low on fuel.
Slight correction 501/9 544 big fuel tanks
Quote from: karl724223 on September 13, 2014, 09:34:38 PM
Slight correction 501/9 544 big fuel tanks
Yes, sorry forget there were the 10 done ;)
Quote from: Ashley on September 13, 2014, 07:49:09 PM
Quote from: NXDom on September 13, 2014, 05:40:05 PM
Quote from: Ashley on September 13, 2014, 02:13:55 PM
Todays B6 allocations so far today
28 - 598 634 640
62/62A - 620 633 662
27 - 508
508 out on 25/27 circuit tonight
Caught 508 on 25, it was a really nice ride. Will definitely miss B6s!
Does the 27 and 25 interwork on sundays or is it just evenings?
Quote from: NXDom on September 14, 2014, 10:20:14 AM
Does the 27 and 25 interwork on sundays or is it just evenings?
Evenings and sundays
Have any of the E200's been out today?
Quote from: NXDom on September 14, 2014, 04:14:53 PM
Have any of the E200's been out today?
No, but 508 was todays 62
Quote from: Ashley on September 14, 2014, 05:59:18 PM
Quote from: NXDom on September 14, 2014, 04:14:53 PM
Have any of the E200's been out today?
No, but 508 was todays 62
I swear i saw 601 parked up on the 62 about 11:30 this morning? Maybe my eyes were playing up as i saw it from a distance. Caught 508 on the last 62 from Finchfield
Was slightly hoping for an E200 on there though
Quote from: Nathan on September 14, 2014, 06:06:06 PM
Quote from: Ashley on September 14, 2014, 05:59:18 PM
Quote from: NXDom on September 14, 2014, 04:14:53 PM
Have any of the E200's been out today?
No, but 508 was todays 62
I swear i saw 601 parked up on the 62 about 11:30 this morning? Maybe my eyes were playing up as i saw it from a distance. Caught 508 on the last 62 from Finchfield
Was slightly hoping for an E200 on there though
Both are easy to tell apart, 601 has an old style priority seat sticker in the centre of the window although it may have been a swap, I can only vouch for 2pm onwards
Quote from: Ashley on September 14, 2014, 06:25:59 PM
Quote from: Nathan on September 14, 2014, 06:06:06 PM
Quote from: Ashley on September 14, 2014, 05:59:18 PM
Quote from: NXDom on September 14, 2014, 04:14:53 PM
Have any of the E200's been out today?
No, but 508 was todays 62
I swear i saw 601 parked up on the 62 about 11:30 this morning? Maybe my eyes were playing up as i saw it from a distance. Caught 508 on the last 62 from Finchfield
Was slightly hoping for an E200 on there though
Both are easy to tell apart, 601 has an old style priority seat sticker in the centre of the window although it may have been a swap, I can only vouch for 2pm onwards
And one had the black interiour trim and the other had grey.
Quote from: Nathan on September 14, 2014, 06:06:06 PM
Quote from: Ashley on September 14, 2014, 05:59:18 PM
Quote from: NXDom on September 14, 2014, 04:14:53 PM
Have any of the E200's been out today?
No, but 508 was todays 62
I swear i saw 601 parked up on the 62 about 11:30 this morning? Maybe my eyes were playing up as i saw it from a distance. Caught 508 on the last 62 from Finchfield
Was slightly hoping for an E200 on there though
Your eyes were not deceiving you 601 came out on the 62 and was swopped for 508 at lunchtime
Whats on the 27 today, not specific fleet numbers unless just types will be ok :)
Quote from: NXDom on September 16, 2014, 05:04:58 PM
Whats on the 27 today, not specific fleet numbers unless just types will be ok :)
Two Tridents, an E200 and a B6LE
Quote from: Ashley on September 16, 2014, 06:21:09 PM
Quote from: NXDom on September 16, 2014, 05:04:58 PM
Whats on the 27 today, not specific fleet numbers unless just types will be ok :)
Two Tridents, an E200 and a B6LE
4580 is one of the Tridents. 27/04 board to be precise.
And 843 was the E200. Just passed me on the 25C in Wednesfield at 18:25 (This trip comes off the 27)
846 on the 81
http://www.busphotography.co.uk/picture.php?/3243
Quote from: Ashley on September 16, 2014, 06:21:09 PM
Quote from: NXDom on September 16, 2014, 05:04:58 PM
Whats on the 27 today, not specific fleet numbers unless just types will be ok :)
Two Tridents, an E200 and a B6LE
trident was 4570/4580
E200 was 843
Apparently 4535 replaced a Merc on the 81 today, any truth in that?
Quote from: Ashley on September 16, 2014, 08:05:48 PM
Apparently 4535 replaced a Merc on the 81 today, any truth in that?
Afraid not. 4535 spent the entire day on the 255 & 256, no tridents showing on there all day
Quote from: Tony on September 16, 2014, 08:08:18 PM
Quote from: Ashley on September 16, 2014, 08:05:48 PM
Apparently 4535 replaced a Merc on the 81 today, any truth in that?
Afraid not. 4535 spent the entire day on the 255 & 256, no tridents showing on there all day
Thanks Tony. I wasn't getting excited, just going on the word of a non spotter
Quote from: Ashley on September 16, 2014, 08:27:20 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 16, 2014, 08:08:18 PM
Quote from: Ashley on September 16, 2014, 08:05:48 PM
Apparently 4535 replaced a Merc on the 81 today, any truth in that?
Afraid not. 4535 spent the entire day on the 255 & 256, no tridents showing on there all day
Thanks Tony. I wasn't getting excited, just going on the word of a non spotter
Funny you should mention that as i overheard one of the inspectors having a discussion on the phone about double deckers not being allowed on the 81's.
Quote from: Nathan on September 16, 2014, 08:34:58 PM
Quote from: Ashley on September 16, 2014, 08:27:20 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 16, 2014, 08:08:18 PM
Quote from: Ashley on September 16, 2014, 08:05:48 PM
Apparently 4535 replaced a Merc on the 81 today, any truth in that?
Afraid not. 4535 spent the entire day on the 255 & 256, no tridents showing on there all day
Thanks Tony. I wasn't getting excited, just going on the word of a non spotter
Funny you should mention that as i overheard one of the inspectors having a discussion on the phone about double deckers not being allowed on the 81's.
Apparently 4535 came off the 255 around 1630 at merry hill to replace a defective Merc however if that was the case it wouldn't be on late 256's tonight so he says, the other claim is that 1668 also failed at Merry Hill at the same time. I'm not doing this to be vindictive or nasty but just for clarity really
Quote from: Ashley on September 16, 2014, 08:40:45 PM
Quote from: Nathan on September 16, 2014, 08:34:58 PM
Quote from: Ashley on September 16, 2014, 08:27:20 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 16, 2014, 08:08:18 PM
Quote from: Ashley on September 16, 2014, 08:05:48 PM
Apparently 4535 replaced a Merc on the 81 today, any truth in that?
Afraid not. 4535 spent the entire day on the 255 & 256, no tridents showing on there all day
Thanks Tony. I wasn't getting excited, just going on the word of a non spotter
Funny you should mention that as i overheard one of the inspectors having a discussion on the phone about double deckers not being allowed on the 81's.
Apparently 4535 came off the 255 around 1630 at merry hill to replace a defective Merc however if that was the case it wouldn't be on late 256's tonight so he says, the other claim is that 1668 also failed at Merry Hill at the same time. I'm not doing this to be vindictive or nasty but just for clarity really
It is possible 4535 did cover a missing trip on the 81 as double checking it did start on running board 255-17 and did finish on running board 255-17 at 18:45, but it does appear to have missed a trip at around 16:30 and no bus is shown operating the 16:45 81 from Merry Hill, so it looks like the inspector asked the driver to go back to Wolverhampton as an 81 then pick up his own running board again.
I cannot check on 1668 because it has been changed on one system to a Pensnett bus, but not the other its journey are not showing
Quote from: Tony on September 16, 2014, 09:03:37 PM
Quote from: Ashley on September 16, 2014, 08:40:45 PM
Quote from: Nathan on September 16, 2014, 08:34:58 PM
Quote from: Ashley on September 16, 2014, 08:27:20 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 16, 2014, 08:08:18 PM
Quote from: Ashley on September 16, 2014, 08:05:48 PM
Apparently 4535 replaced a Merc on the 81 today, any truth in that?
Afraid not. 4535 spent the entire day on the 255 & 256, no tridents showing on there all day
Thanks Tony. I wasn't getting excited, just going on the word of a non spotter
Funny you should mention that as i overheard one of the inspectors having a discussion on the phone about double deckers not being allowed on the 81's.
Apparently 4535 came off the 255 around 1630 at merry hill to replace a defective Merc however if that was the case it wouldn't be on late 256's tonight so he says, the other claim is that 1668 also failed at Merry Hill at the same time. I'm not doing this to be vindictive or nasty but just for clarity really
It is possible 4535 did cover a missing trip on the 81 as double checking it did start on running board 255-17 and did finish on running board 255-17 at 18:45, but it does appear to have missed a trip at around 16:30 and no bus is shown operating the 16:45 81 from Merry Hill, so it looks like the inspector asked the driver to go back to Wolverhampton as an 81 then pick up his own running board again.
I cannot check on 1668 because it has been changed on one system to a Pensnett bus, but not the other its journey are not showing
Thanks again Tony. It doesn't matter about 1668
This was brought to Merry Hill once to replace a Merc:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/10320031315/in/set-72157630271763824
By the time it arrived the board had nearly finished so never went in service!
WN don't use DDecks on the 81 cause of low trees on the route
Not too sure but i think 842 had a few problem at wolves bus station at 06.30. Engineers were there. Wonder when a e200 might drift onto the 529/126 ;)
4883 has pulled up on stand U in Wolverhampton bus station
Quote from: jack4325 on September 17, 2014, 11:49:39 AM
4883 has pulled up on stand U in Wolverhampton bus station
I'm guessing its having a day off the 934/5/6 on the 40 or 89?
Quote from: Nathan on September 17, 2014, 12:46:10 PM
Quote from: Chris2301 on September 17, 2014, 06:51:28 AM
Not too sure but i think 842 had a few problem at wolves bus station at 06.30. Engineers were there. Wonder when a e200 might drift onto the 529/126 ;)
842 is on the 11 now apparently.
Quote from: jack4325 on September 17, 2014, 11:49:39 AM
4883 has pulled up on stand U in Wolverhampton bus station
I'm guessing its having a day off the 934/5/6 on the 40 or 89?
No 4883 did a morning peak board on the 934, and is now being used by the Garage based driving instructor
Quote from: Tony on September 17, 2014, 12:48:47 PM
Quote from: Nathan on September 17, 2014, 12:46:10 PM
Quote from: Chris2301 on September 17, 2014, 06:51:28 AM
Not too sure but i think 842 had a few problem at wolves bus station at 06.30. Engineers were there. Wonder when a e200 might drift onto the 529/126 ;)
842 is on the 11 now apparently.
Quote from: jack4325 on September 17, 2014, 11:49:39 AM
4883 has pulled up on stand U in Wolverhampton bus station
I'm guessing its having a day off the 934/5/6 on the 40 or 89?
No 4883 did a morning peak board on the 934, and is now being used by the Garage based driving instructor
Oh ok :) Cheers
Quote from: Tony on September 17, 2014, 12:48:47 PM
Quote from: Nathan on September 17, 2014, 12:46:10 PM
Quote from: Chris2301 on September 17, 2014, 06:51:28 AM
Not too sure but i think 842 had a few problem at wolves bus station at 06.30. Engineers were there. Wonder when a e200 might drift onto the 529/126 ;)
842 is on the 11 now apparently.
Quote from: jack4325 on September 17, 2014, 11:49:39 AM
4883 has pulled up on stand U in Wolverhampton bus station
I'm guessing its having a day off the 934/5/6 on the 40 or 89?
No 4883 did a morning peak board on the 934, and is now being used by the Garage based driving instructor
it only stayed half an hour
5409 has now being branded for route 1
Quote from: jack4325 on September 17, 2014, 06:32:42 PM
5409 has now being branded for route 1
They're probably branding 4 ex-BC E400H's as 4 of the B5's (5515-5518) were branded :) if this is the case then 5406 & 5407 may gain branding.
Quote from: Rob2832 on September 17, 2014, 06:36:04 PM
Quote from: jack4325 on September 17, 2014, 06:32:42 PM
5409 has now being branded for route 1
They're probably branding 4 ex-BC E400H's as 4 of the B5's (5515-5518) were branded :) if this is the case then 5406 & 5407 may gain branding.
I have not seen 5407 for a while
but 5408 & 5409 are now branded
Quote from: jack4325 on September 17, 2014, 06:39:04 PM
Quote from: Rob2832 on September 17, 2014, 06:36:04 PM
Quote from: jack4325 on September 17, 2014, 06:32:42 PM
5409 has now being branded for route 1
They're probably branding 4 ex-BC E400H's as 4 of the B5's (5515-5518) were branded :) if this is the case then 5406 & 5407 may gain branding.
I have not seen 5407 for a while
but 5408 & 5409 are now branded
5406 and 5407 are still unbranded. I suspect you are correct Rob, So 5401-5 will be unbranded with the last 4 being branded
997 branded e400 4770 at wolves bus station. Type training maybe? When Walsall get new e400s and cascade older e400 to wolves to replace the spectras?
Quote from: Chris2301 on September 18, 2014, 12:37:42 PM
997 branded e400 4770 at wolves bus station. Type training maybe? When Walsall get new e400s and cascade older e400 to wolves to replace the spectras?
could it of being on the WA40
Quote from: jack4325 on September 18, 2014, 06:56:54 PM
Quote from: Chris2301 on September 18, 2014, 12:37:42 PM
997 branded e400 4770 at wolves bus station. Type training maybe? When Walsall get new e400s and cascade older e400 to wolves to replace the spectras?
could it of being on the WA40
No
Quote from: Tony on September 18, 2014, 07:05:39 PM
Quote from: jack4325 on September 18, 2014, 06:56:54 PM
Quote from: Chris2301 on September 18, 2014, 12:37:42 PM
997 branded e400 4770 at wolves bus station. Type training maybe? When Walsall get new e400s and cascade older e400 to wolves to replace the spectras?
could it of being on the WA40
No
Isn't it a bit early for type training tho
842 and 844 both on the 25A/C today
847 is out on WN 11 on its first day today. Seen it in the bus station at 15:10.
Edit: No longer is on WN 11. 638 was on 27A and is now not in service. 847 took over.
Edit 2: 638 changed to 11. So it was a swap.
4601 back in service today, on 529.
4737 has just arrived in Wolverhampton bus station then left
Quote from: Ashley on September 19, 2014, 03:38:29 PM
4737 has just arrived in Wolverhampton bus station then left
only going round the block, will be back in to do the 15:50 89
Looks like there's something wrong with 845. It's currently sat at stand P in Dudley Bus Station going nowhere fast......
Which B6's are on 27, 28 and 82 today? Have any Mercs been withdrawn or are some out today?
Quote from: Ashley on September 20, 2014, 01:36:37 PM
Which B6's are on 27, 28 and 82 today? Have any Mercs been withdrawn or are some out today?
28 is fully B6. 634 and 638 are on 27's
Quote from: Nathan on September 20, 2014, 01:44:44 PM
Quote from: Ashley on September 20, 2014, 01:36:37 PM
Which B6's are on 27, 28 and 82 today? Have any Mercs been withdrawn or are some out today?
28 is fully B6. 634 and 638 are on 27's
So is the 25A/C. At the moment there's 5 mercs that I've seen on the 82. 1662, 1670, 1671, 1672 and one more in twm livery
There was an e200 at willenhall on 28 around 11ish
842 and 846 on 28
Also, what time did 634 and 638 leave WN on 27's?
What are the via points on a digital destination blind on the 11?
Quote from: NXDom on September 20, 2014, 03:15:21 PM
What are the via points on a digital destination blind on the 11?
I think it's just
11 Underhill
via Fallings Park
or
11 Wolverhampton
via Fallings Park
Quote from: X94 on September 20, 2014, 01:54:49 PM
Quote from: Nathan on September 20, 2014, 01:44:44 PM
Quote from: Ashley on September 20, 2014, 01:36:37 PM
Which B6's are on 27, 28 and 82 today? Have any Mercs been withdrawn or are some out today?
28 is fully B6. 634 and 638 are on 27's
So is the 25A/C. At the moment there's 5 mercs that I've seen on the 82. 1662, 1670, 1671, 1672 and one more in twm livery
The TWM Merc is 1685. Just seen it departing Wolverhampton.
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on September 20, 2014, 03:21:39 PM
Quote from: NXDom on September 20, 2014, 03:15:21 PM
What are the via points on a digital destination blind on the 11?
I think it's just
11 Underhill
via Fallings Park
or
11 Wolverhampton
via Fallings Park
I thought so, I knew that was on there but wasn't sure if there was another one :)
Quote from: P419 EJW on September 20, 2014, 03:22:22 PM
Quote from: X94 on September 20, 2014, 01:54:49 PM
Quote from: Nathan on September 20, 2014, 01:44:44 PM
Quote from: Ashley on September 20, 2014, 01:36:37 PM
Which B6's are on 27, 28 and 82 today? Have any Mercs been withdrawn or are some out today?
28 is fully B6. 634 and 638 are on 27's
So is the 25A/C. At the moment there's 5 mercs that I've seen on the 82. 1662, 1670, 1671, 1672 and one more in twm livery
The TWM Merc is 1685. Just seen it departing Wolverhampton.
1681 is on there too
842/4/6 were todays 28's.
634 worked the 19:25 25C ex W'ton
Quote from: Nathan on September 16, 2014, 08:34:58 PM
Quote from: Ashley on September 16, 2014, 08:27:20 PM
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Quote from: Ashley on September 16, 2014, 08:05:48 PM
Apparently 4535 replaced a Merc on the 81 today, any truth in that?
Afraid not. 4535 spent the entire day on the 255 & 256, no tridents showing on there all day
Thanks Tony. I wasn't getting excited, just going on the word of a non spotter
Funny you should mention that as i overheard one of the inspectors having a discussion on the phone about double deckers not being allowed on the 81's.
There was a Spectra on there the other day I saw, operating 81E though.
Quote from: ant29 on September 21, 2014, 05:04:47 PM
Quote from: Nathan on September 16, 2014, 08:34:58 PM
Quote from: Ashley on September 16, 2014, 08:27:20 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 16, 2014, 08:08:18 PM
Quote from: Ashley on September 16, 2014, 08:05:48 PM
Apparently 4535 replaced a Merc on the 81 today, any truth in that?
Afraid not. 4535 spent the entire day on the 255 & 256, no tridents showing on there all day
Thanks Tony. I wasn't getting excited, just going on the word of a non spotter
Funny you should mention that as i overheard one of the inspectors having a discussion on the phone about double deckers not being allowed on the 81's.
There was a Spectra on there the other day I saw, operating 81E though.
Yes last saturday, did a full days operation on the 81, I had a ride on it aswell.
849 is out in 25
4589 is back after repaint and refurbishment on 529
Just out of interest how many e200 are due to enter service at Wolverhampton
was supposed to be 15 840 to 854 interestingly the ones arrived so far have ousted mercs not b6
Quote from: mranon on September 22, 2014, 05:56:29 PM
was supposed to be 15 840 to 854 interestingly the ones arrived so far have ousted mercs not b6
B6s staying at WN until 2015
Quote from: filbus1 on September 22, 2014, 06:14:15 PM
Quote from: mranon on September 22, 2014, 05:56:29 PM
was supposed to be 15 840 to 854 interestingly the ones arrived so far have ousted mercs not b6
B6s staying at WN until 2015
Possibly!! The rate that decisions are changed the B6s might be safe this week, but next week, who knows!!!
I like b6s i am amazed how they manage to climb the many hills of dudley back in their pensnett days. They have endured much and still out living the younger mercs
844 on WN28 to Willenhall, and 2012 on WN59
850 and 851 are now taxed according to VOSA. Should be out soon obviously.
851 now in service. Just passed me on WN59 in Wednesfield High St going towards Ashmore Park
850 on the 82 today
Quote from: Nathan on September 24, 2014, 08:21:50 AM
851 now in service. Just passed me on WN59 in Wednesfield High St going towards Ashmore Park
Seems like the e200 have their maiden service on the 59.
Easy to tow back when they inevitably break down! Sure some of the new WB ones have already had trouble, I know the PE ones had issues when they first started
Quote from: Chris2301 on September 24, 2014, 11:33:10 AM
Quote from: Nathan on September 24, 2014, 08:21:50 AM
851 now in service. Just passed me on WN59 in Wednesfield High St going towards Ashmore Park
Seems like the e200 have their maiden service on the 59.
I know although 37 seaters are not a good idea on the 59! Its usually allocated to the last 59 out of garage in a morning.
4012 still on the 1 on the 2155 ex Dudley, should do the 2335 1E ex Dudley as well
Just got off 4593 on 529. My God... Has the bus been re-decorated internally or what(?) The smell is soooooooooooooo (yes, that many o's, I'm not exaggerating) overpowering! The smell is like paint, probably gloss paint. Trying to get us high or feeling dizzy/faint? Passengers complained and they couldn't wait to get off the bus. I feel sorry for the driver having to put up with the horrid smell until his shift finishes.
Quote from: P419 EJW on September 24, 2014, 11:44:00 PM
Just got off 4593 on 529. My God... Has the bus been re-decorated internally or what(?) The smell is soooooooooooooo (yes, that many o's, I'm not exaggerating) overpowering! The smell is like paint, probably gloss paint. Trying to get us high or feeling dizzy/faint? Passengers complained and they couldn't wait to get off the bus. I feel sorry for the driver having to put up with the horrid smell until his shift finishes.
Well it makes a change from the usual smell of skunk or stale booze on the 529 :D....The driver doesn't have to 'put up with it' and if the smell is as bad as you make out should it even be in service?
Drivers this week are talking about the 27 night service finishing. Is there any truth in this? Also what's happening to the 62?
Quote from: 4006 on September 25, 2014, 11:41:49 AM
Drivers this week are talking about the 27 night service finishing. Is there any truth in this? Also what's happening to the 62?
It wouldn't surprise me if the sunday 27 was taken off, on occaisions there has only been me on the bus between wolverhampton and sedgley and i only catch it if i miss the number 1
Does anyone known when 4588, 4590, 4592, 4594, & 4596 are going in to be refurbished? :)
Quote from: ant29 on September 25, 2014, 10:27:22 PM
Does anyone known when 4588, 4590, 4592, 4594, & 4596 are going in to be refurbished? :)
Soon, most likely.
Quote from: ant29 on September 25, 2014, 10:27:22 PM
Does anyone known when 4588, 4590, 4592, 4594, & 4596 are going in to be refurbished? :)
Two at a time, 4590 is already in, when 4587 & 4590, the next two will go in
2011-126
A driver just told me that the final 3 e200 arrived at park lane this morning. Shouldn't be too long before there maiden service on the 59
Quote from: Nathan on September 26, 2014, 09:53:03 PM
Quote from: Chris2301 on September 26, 2014, 06:36:28 PM
A driver just told me that the final 3 e200 arrived at park lane this morning. Shouldn't be too long before there maiden service on the 59
What do you mean there maiden service on the 59? They are only used on the peak running boards and on all day 59/13 (Last 59 out) for the past week. The 59 is a Double Deck operated route (Well 99% of the buses on there are). I live on the 59 and i was on a jam packed Trident! They will be on the 28/81 mostly
Think it was nothing more than humour meant by Chris's comment. Chill out Nathan
Don't worry Ash i wasn't snapping at him ;) Although it is true that are appearing on the 59 alot recently (I'd rather have a Spectra lol)
Anyway..... A driver told me today that some B6's are coming to WN from WB? Any ideas anybody?
Quote from: Nathan on September 26, 2014, 10:07:05 PM
Don't worry Ash i wasn't snapping at him ;) Although it is true that are appearing on the 59 alot recently (I'd rather have a Spectra lol)
Anyway..... A driver told me today that some B6's are coming to WN from WB? Any ideas anybody?
Well it would make sense if WB's B6's are in better condition than WN's Mercs, to get rid of even more Mercs to leave WN with just Enviros and B6's getting rid of a complete type
I would be happy at that news. Hopefully 534 568 591 and 680. Sadly 566 is gone otherwise that would do
I was trying to be humorous aha im always going through wolverhampton from willenhall to Stourbridge and always see an e200 on 59. Im still waiting for e200 to sneak onto the 529
Looks like nxwm introducing new route 54 to the i54 via pendeford business park from October.
508 555 632 633 634 640 - 25A/C
586 600 638 - 62/A
662 - 27
1661 1670 1671 1673 - 82
For fans of older better buses
Quote from: Ashley on September 27, 2014, 01:14:06 PM
508 555 632 633 634 640 - 25A/C
586 600 638 - 62/A
662 - 27
1661 1670 1671 1673 - 82
For fans of older better buses
4012 is on 27's today and will work the 20:25 25C ex W'ton. Makes a change from the Tridents.
Quote from: Nathan on September 26, 2014, 09:53:03 PM
What do you mean there maiden service on the 59?
He meant
their maiden service. 8)
Quote from: Ashley on September 27, 2014, 01:14:06 PM
508 555 632 633 634 640 - 25A/C
586 600 638 - 62/A
662 - 27
1661 1670 1671 1673 - 82
For fans of older better buses
638 seems to be dying a long protracted death on the 62 atm
And 634 is sat at stand D going nowhere fast with it's bonnet up
Quote from: Kevin on September 27, 2014, 02:33:51 PM
Quote from: Ashley on September 27, 2014, 01:14:06 PM
508 555 632 633 634 640 - 25A/C
586 600 638 - 62/A
662 - 27
1661 1670 1671 1673 - 82
For fans of older better buses
638 seems to be dying a long protracted death on the 62 atm
And 634 is sat at stand D going nowhere fast with it's bonnet up
A small Mansfield van came and somehow fixed 634. 634 is back in service on WN 11. Seen it arriving in Wolverhampton Bus Station at 18:10.
2066 on the 126 today I saw, as well as 4325! I was on 4325, has an orange LED display board, unusual for a trident, & it's based at Birmingham Garage apparently, what's it doing on the 126? :P
Quote from: ant29 on September 27, 2014, 07:09:31 PM
2066 on the 126 today I saw, as well as 4325! I was on 4325, has an orange LED display board, unusual for a trident, & it's based at Birmingham Garage apparently, what's it doing on the 126? :P
It got transferred to WN
Quote from: NXDom on September 27, 2014, 07:35:16 PM
Quote from: ant29 on September 27, 2014, 07:09:31 PM
2066 on the 126 today I saw, as well as 4325! I was on 4325, has an orange LED display board, unusual for a trident, & it's based at Birmingham Garage apparently, what's it doing on the 126? :P
It got transferred to WN
Ah I see. Seems unusual for it to had an orange LED display board for a trident! Was quite surprised! :D :o
I haven't seen any of the ex Birmingham E400H's out today which is rather odd.
The 59 has 5 Tridents and a 1 branded E400H instead of the usual 4 ex BC E400H's and 2 Tridents.
And i've only seen branded examples on the 1 too.
Any ideas if any are out on other routes today?
Is the 62 delayed or broken? The 1258 from Finchfield hasn't appeared
2007 (I think, definitely ends in a 7) on 126 - 9:05 at Paradise circus towards Birmingham
853 and 854 are on WN2
852 out on the peak extra 59 this afternoon
Have 1673, 1684 and 1686 been withdrawn?
Also, 634 is back at PL and on the 81 until the temperature gage shoots up lol
what is going on with wn allocation. wasn't these e200s for the 81 27/a 28 and 25a/c? they seem to be on routes such as 2 and 59 etc. there are also so many single decks on double deck routes. is there a shortage of buses at the moment? also theres a rumour that more b6's are heading to wn to replace existing mercs to eliminate the lot. is there any truth on that?
Quote from: mranon on October 01, 2014, 05:36:28 PM
what is going on with wn allocation. wasn't these e200s for the 81 27/a 28 and 25a/c? they seem to be on routes such as 2 and 59 etc. there are also so many single decks on double deck routes. is there a shortage of buses at the moment? also theres a rumour that more b6's are heading to wn to replace existing mercs to eliminate the lot. is there any truth on that?
I think the double decks are being used on the 79E's and ML1's temporarily till the Metro is going back to St Georges, cause there seem to be mostly double decks on the WN59 on sat and sun, and the rumour bout the B6's is probably true, otherwise WN could have a problem with capacity i reckon, but i could be wrong
634 on the 81 I saw earlier.
Quote from: ant29 on October 01, 2014, 06:21:12 PM
634 on the 81 I saw earlier.
Already posted by me , see four posts above
Quote from: Ashley on October 01, 2014, 06:31:53 PM
Quote from: ant29 on October 01, 2014, 06:21:12 PM
634 on the 81 I saw earlier.
Already posted by me , see four posts above
Sorry, didn't see! Apologies, was just on the 81 and saw it drive past me, thought I shall post ;)
E200s are fantastic! Not. 853 recently delivered and the first damage is... look here (http://i58.tinypic.com/windlg.jpg).
Anybody want a last photograph or ride on a vehicle in original low floor livery be quick and find 1672 on the 82 today. Exprected to be its last day.
Quote from: Tony on October 02, 2014, 01:58:17 PM
Anybody want a last photograph or ride on a vehicle in original low floor livery be quick and find 1672 on the 82 today. Exprected to be its last day.
1672 departed WN at 12:20, if that helps anyone who wants to search for 1672.
I'm told 1684 and 1686 are also longer at PL. Can anyone confirm?
i was told by a driver that there is a collection of mercs building up at bottom of yard, including 1684/6 in nxwm livery. its a shame 1672 couldnt be the last merc in service being as its in original livery etc. wonder what else will turn up at pl to see off remaining mercs, or will nxwm liveried ones see a bit longer
Can someone tell me what PL stands for? Thank you :-\
Quote from: ant29 on October 02, 2014, 05:53:21 PM
Can someone tell me what PL stands for? Thank you :-\
Park Lane. The road the garage is situated on
Quote from: Nathan on October 02, 2014, 06:21:49 PM
Quote from: ant29 on October 02, 2014, 05:53:21 PM
Can someone tell me what PL stands for? Thank you :-\
Park Lane. The road the garage is situated on
A legacy of when there also used to be CR (Cleveland Road) Garage in Wolverhampton. Which is still standing, not sure if it will be for much longer though with Tesco redevelopment plans for the area moving forward.
Quote from: D10 on October 02, 2014, 09:05:29 PM
Quote from: Nathan on October 02, 2014, 06:21:49 PM
Quote from: ant29 on October 02, 2014, 05:53:21 PM
Can someone tell me what PL stands for? Thank you :-\
Park Lane. The road the garage is situated on
A legacy of when there also used to be CR (Cleveland Road) Garage in Wolverhampton. Which is still standing, not sure if it will be for much longer though with Tesco redevelopment plans for the area moving forward.
The Garage is in use as a car park and not actually on the Tesco site so it may not be affected
Has 4015 had a refurbishment? Looks freshly painted, and seats look a different colour on this photo
Credits to the author.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mcw1987/13877396174/in/photostream/
Quote from: ant29 on October 04, 2014, 08:54:01 PM
Has 4015 had a refurbishment? Looks freshly painted, and seats look a different colour on this photo
Credits to the author.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mcw1987/13877396174/in/photostream/
Looks like its April 2010 paintjob to me
Quote from: ant29 on October 04, 2014, 08:54:01 PM
Has 4015 had a refurbishment? Looks freshly painted, and seats look a different colour on this photo
Credits to the author.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mcw1987/13877396174/in/photostream/
Nope. The paintwork appears brighter on the photo than it actually does. Although the front bumper appears to have a bolder shade of red than the rest of the paintwork
Result of editing.... contrast has been enhanced I think :)
The 59 is fully hybrid today. (Usually at least 2 Tridents on there on Sundays)
The 25/7 is all E200 today for the first time on Sunday.
And 853 is on the 62. First time an E200 has put in an appearance on the Sunday 62
4518 was in Bilston today on the 43. West Brom based, but that's a West Brom covered route. Also a ALX400 Volvo B7TL on the 43, not sure the reg, was from a distance, on the 43 too. Unusual to see them in Bilston, or Wolverhampton! :P
Quote from: ant29 on October 07, 2014, 08:07:28 PM
4518 was in Bilston today on the 43. West Brom based, but that's a West Brom covered route. Also a ALX400 Volvo B7TL on the 43, not sure the reg, was from a distance, on the 43 too. Unusual to see them in Bilston, or Wolverhamptin! :P
WB do put Geminis on the 42/42E/43
The changes to the 25 are as follows.
It will run from Wolverhampton through Parkfields/Goldthorn Hill (As per the 25A) then Bilston, Willenhall, Wednesfield, Bushbury, I54 and will terminate at Pendeford Business Park before coming back the other way. All journies will be numbered 25. Evening and Sundays will be operated by another operator.
New service 54 will cover the 25's route between Wolverhampton and I54
So would evenings and Sundays be run as a 25E Bilston - Pendeford only? Or is it going to be the full route with Diamonds 26 included?
Quote from: Kevin on October 08, 2014, 10:58:27 AM
So would evenings and Sundays be run as a 25E Bilston - Pendeford only? Or is it going to be the full route with Diamonds 26 included?
Not sure. Just posting what I saw on a notice this morning.
Its now on the NXWM website:
http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/black-country-service-changes-26th-october-2014
The 126 is going half hourly (from every 20 minutes) late evenings, after 8:30 from Wolverhampton, after 10 from Birmingham, can't say I'm too surprised
As well as 533 I mentioned in the West Bromwich page, 582 from Walsall has also now migrated to Wolverhampton
Quote from: Tony on October 09, 2014, 12:31:08 PM
As well as 533 I mentioned in the West Bromwich page, 582 from Walsall has also now migrated to Wolverhampton
Yay, more B6s in Wolverhampton, then! ;D
Quote from: P419 EJW on October 09, 2014, 12:36:51 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 09, 2014, 12:31:08 PM
As well as 533 I mentioned in the West Bromwich page, 582 from Walsall has also now migrated to Wolverhampton
Yay, more B6s in Wolverhampton, then! ;D
While the end of another short lived era is approaching. Wolverhampton only have one Mercedes on the road today
1670 on the 25
1671 & 1677 are parked by the garage so still look as though they may still reappear
All other are now dumped up the back corner of the yard with the rest of the scrap
Quote from: Tony on October 09, 2014, 01:07:37 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on October 09, 2014, 12:36:51 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 09, 2014, 12:31:08 PM
As well as 533 I mentioned in the West Bromwich page, 582 from Walsall has also now migrated to Wolverhampton
Yay, more B6s in Wolverhampton, then! ;D
While the end of another short lived era is approaching. Wolverhampton only have one Mercedes on the road today
1670 on the 25
1671 & 1677 are parked by the garage so still look as though they may still reappear
All other are now dumped up the back corner of the yard with the rest of the scrap
1677 appeared on 256
Don't know why 1670 still going...rubbish...should have been one of the first to go! ::)
Quote from: Tony on October 09, 2014, 12:31:08 PM
As well as 533 I mentioned in the West Bromwich page, 582 from Walsall has also now migrated to Wolverhampton
Are either of them out today might go get a ride.
Quote from: NXDom on October 10, 2014, 08:15:56 AM
Quote from: Tony on October 09, 2014, 12:31:08 PM
As well as 533 I mentioned in the West Bromwich page, 582 from Walsall has also now migrated to Wolverhampton
Are either of them out today might go get a ride.
582 is on the 11
Just seen 1873 coming out of park lane.
Also 582 is showing 11 Birmingham as it still has the west brom roller blind in
Quote from: NXDom on October 10, 2014, 12:27:33 PM
Just seen 1873 coming out of park lane.
Also 582 is showing 11 Birmingham as it still has the west brom roller blind in
582 was from Walsall, not West Bromwich. I presume you got confused with 582 at Walsall and 584 at West Bromwich.
Quote from: P419 EJW on October 10, 2014, 12:30:47 PM
Quote from: NXDom on October 10, 2014, 12:27:33 PM
Just seen 1873 coming out of park lane.
Also 582 is showing 11 Birmingham as it still has the west brom roller blind in
582 was from Walsall, not West Bromwich. I presume you got confused with 582 at Walsall and 584 at West Bromwich.
582 is now a 'Strategic reserve' vehicle, not a permanent WN allocation
Quote from: Tony on October 10, 2014, 12:42:13 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on October 10, 2014, 12:30:47 PM
Quote from: NXDom on October 10, 2014, 12:27:33 PM
Just seen 1873 coming out of park lane.
Also 582 is showing 11 Birmingham as it still has the west brom roller blind in
582 was from Walsall, not West Bromwich. I presume you got confused with 582 at Walsall and 584 at West Bromwich.
582 is now a 'Strategic reserve' vehicle, not a permanent WN allocation
'Stategic reserve'
LMAO!!!!
I am so wanting to make further comments :o :o
Quote from: Nathan on October 08, 2014, 12:39:08 PM
Quote from: Kevin on October 08, 2014, 10:58:27 AM
So would evenings and Sundays be run as a 25E Bilston - Pendeford only? Or is it going to be the full route with Diamonds 26 included?
Not sure. Just posting what I saw on a notice this morning.
Its now on the NXWM website:
http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/black-country-service-changes-26th-october-2014
Evening and sunday 25's will run bilston to pendeford buisness park.
Quote from: NXDom on October 11, 2014, 06:43:51 AM
Quote from: Nathan on October 08, 2014, 12:39:08 PM
Quote from: Kevin on October 08, 2014, 10:58:27 AM
So would evenings and Sundays be run as a 25E Bilston - Pendeford only? Or is it going to be the full route with Diamonds 26 included?
Not sure. Just posting what I saw on a notice this morning.
Its now on the NXWM website:
http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/black-country-service-changes-26th-october-2014
Evening and sunday 25's will run bilston to pendeford buisness park.
Little bit strange, surely there's gonna be hardly anyone using the bus to i54 and the business park in the evenings and on Sundays?
2013 is on 126
4324 on the 1, seen approx 1715 on Lichfield Street bound for tettenhall
I'm told Tha 533, 626 and 638 are withdrawn, not sure if that's true. Id be surprised about 626 as its one of the more reliable and fast examples
Quote from: Ashley on October 15, 2014, 04:28:10 PM
I'm told Tha 533, 626 and 638 are withdrawn, not sure if that's true. Id be surprised about 626 as its one of the more reliable and fast examples
638 was on 11
4572 has beeing replaced on 59 by 2070
Quote from: jack4325 on October 17, 2014, 08:02:33 AM
4572 has beeing replaced on 59 by 2070
Any idea which board jack?
Neither 853 or 854 are on the road today, anyone who sees them on Monday may notice they look a bit different.
Quote from: Tony on October 18, 2014, 04:45:00 PM
Neither 853 or 854 are on the road today, anyone who sees them on Monday may notice they look a bit different.
Route branding?
Quote from: Nathan on October 18, 2014, 04:47:02 PM
Quote from: John on October 18, 2014, 04:45:49 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 18, 2014, 04:45:00 PM
Neither 853 or 854 are on the road today, anyone who sees them on Monday may notice they look a bit different.
Route branding?
For the 81 maybe?
Pleaseeeeeee...
853/4 are to receive branding for the new 54 service. They are also being fitted with free wifi and will be the first two buses at Wolverhampton to receive girls names
Quote from: Tony on October 18, 2014, 05:48:07 PM
853/4 are to receive branding for the new 54 service. They are also being fitted with free wifi and will be the first two buses at Wolverhampton to receive girls names
A bit early isn't it the route doesn't start for another week. The Wifi will be good as long as it works. Naming Cool. I would like to see 81 branded as if they are going to do the audio visual stuff then they should really brand the route.
How is the 126 doing at the moment with the Birmingham marathon?
Quote from: NXDom on October 19, 2014, 02:58:14 PM
How is the 126 doing at the moment with the Birmingham marathon?
Seen several buses going down B'ham New Rd this afternoon running private
Quote from: Nathan on October 19, 2014, 03:20:26 PM
Quote from: NXDom on October 19, 2014, 02:58:14 PM
How is the 126 doing at the moment with the Birmingham marathon?
Seen several buses going down B'ham New Rd this afternoon.
Are they all operating full route or being altered?
The 126 I was on was turned round in Edgbaston as it was running late, the one behind that I got followed the 98/99 route into city and turned round by old new street entrance and bullring missing out markets.
Quote from: NXDom on October 19, 2014, 03:26:18 PM
Quote from: Nathan on October 19, 2014, 03:20:26 PM
Quote from: NXDom on October 19, 2014, 02:58:14 PM
How is the 126 doing at the moment with the Birmingham marathon?
Seen several buses going down B'ham New Rd this afternoon.
Are they all operating full route or being altered?
oops... Apologies :-[ That should have read i saw several buses running private down B'ham New Rd
Just been sent these.
Quote from: NXDom on October 19, 2014, 09:15:04 PM
Just been sent these.
Very Smart. it's nice to see another colour on the Enviro200 branding rather than the 99/222 green
Agree with John - smart branding. I do like the yellow colour on the red, like on the 17.
Looking at the timetable for the 54, will only the one bus be used in the daytime?
Leaving Wolverhampton at 00, getting to Billbrook at 27, laying over for 5 minutes, leaving at 32 and returning to Wolverhampton for 57 for the next 00 departure. It doesn't leave much time for traffic delays
Quote from: John on October 19, 2014, 09:31:25 PM
Looking at the timetable for the 54, will only the one bus be used in the daytime?
Leaving Wolverhampton at 00, getting to Billbrook at 27, laying over for 5 minutes, leaving at 32 and returning to Wolverhampton for 57 for the next 00 departure. It doesn't leave much time for traffic delays
I think it has a pvr of 2. Don't quote me on that not 100%.
Quote from: NXDom on October 19, 2014, 09:32:32 PM
Quote from: John on October 19, 2014, 09:31:25 PM
Looking at the timetable for the 54, will only the one bus be used in the daytime?
Leaving Wolverhampton at 00, getting to Billbrook at 27, laying over for 5 minutes, leaving at 32 and returning to Wolverhampton for 57 for the next 00 departure. It doesn't leave much time for traffic delays
I think it has a pvr of 2. Don't quote me on that not 100%.
Must do as there branding 2 buses
Quote from: NXDom on October 19, 2014, 09:15:04 PM
Just been sent these.
Is that? It can't be... FREE WIFI ON NXWM!!! :D Let's hope the WiFi slowly creeps onto other vehicles... (Newer E400s, B7RLES, etc...)
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on October 19, 2014, 09:56:13 PM
Quote from: NXDom on October 19, 2014, 09:32:32 PM
Quote from: John on October 19, 2014, 09:31:25 PM
Looking at the timetable for the 54, will only the one bus be used in the daytime?
Leaving Wolverhampton at 00, getting to Billbrook at 27, laying over for 5 minutes, leaving at 32 and returning to Wolverhampton for 57 for the next 00 departure. It doesn't leave much time for traffic delays
I think it has a pvr of 2. Don't quote me on that not 100%.
Must do as there branding 2 buses
853 is out on the 59 today still unbranded
Hi guys, guick one with regards to the 54, I've checked google maps to see where the route will terminate, will buses just do a U-turn outside the Billbrook station or have I totally missed something??
Danny
Quote from: danny on October 20, 2014, 10:47:49 AM
Hi guys, guick one with regards to the 54, I've checked google maps to see where the route will terminate, will buses just do a U-turn outside the Billbrook station or have I totally missed something??
Danny
No, does a one-way loop round Bilbrook, to the Woodman then past Codsall High, left past the Council Offices and along to Bilbrook station where it terminates on Duck Lane.
4008 on the 1. Seen Tettenhall bound on Lichfield Street at 1652
EDIT
Same location at 1656
844 on the 4 bound for Spring Hill
1671 on the 1 Dudley bound
Quote from: clayderman on October 19, 2014, 11:07:35 PM
Quote from: NXDom on October 19, 2014, 09:15:04 PM
Just been sent these.
Is that? It can't be... FREE WIFI ON NXWM!!! :D Let's hope the WiFi slowly creeps onto other vehicles... (Newer E400s, B7RLES, etc...)
The 50 Enviro400s at Yardley Wood featured WiFi for a short time a few years ago. I don't know why it was discontinued. They all had this logo on them
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/6935815623/
I was told 854 was parked up at Wolverhampton Bus Station today
Quote from: John on October 20, 2014, 05:45:47 PM
Quote from: clayderman on October 19, 2014, 11:07:35 PM
Quote from: NXDom on October 19, 2014, 09:15:04 PM
Just been sent these.
Is that? It can't be... FREE WIFI ON NXWM!!! :D Let's hope the WiFi slowly creeps onto other vehicles... (Newer E400s, B7RLES, etc...)
The 50 Enviro400s at Yardley Wood featured WiFi for a short time a few years ago. I don't know why it was discontinued. They all had this logo on them
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/6935815623/
It was done on a trial basis, but it didn't take off. From memory, they took it off because the technology used wasn't very effective.
Managed to get this shot of 854 today:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/15401176529/
1661 was on the 25 yesterday 20.10.14 (Late board)
Quote from: 4006 on October 21, 2014, 01:33:21 AM
Managed to get this shot of 854 today:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/15401176529/
Fair play to them. It doesn't actually look that bad.
3 126 within less than five minutes of each other
Quote from: NXDom on October 19, 2014, 09:32:32 PM
Quote from: John on October 19, 2014, 09:31:25 PM
Looking at the timetable for the 54, will only the one bus be used in the daytime?
Leaving Wolverhampton at 00, getting to Billbrook at 27, laying over for 5 minutes, leaving at 32 and returning to Wolverhampton for 57 for the next 00 departure. It doesn't leave much time for traffic delays
I think it has a pvr of 2. Don't quote me on that not 100%.
I believe the PVR is 3. The core vehicle requirement is 2, but then there is the additional bus required in both the AM & PM peaks.
I reckon the workings will be as follows -
Bus 1) 0535 ex Wolves, 0612 ex Bilbrook, 0645 ex Wolves, Dead to Wolves, then **30 ex Wolves & **02 ex Bilbrook until 2202 ex Bilbrook.
Bus 2) 0615 ex Wolves, 0647 ex Bilbrook, 0715 ex Wolves, 0738 ex Pendeford Business Park, then **00 ex Wolves & **32 ex Bilbrook until 2255 ex Wolves, 2310 ex i54
Bus 3) 0745 ex Wolves (then a total guess maybe the 784 or 785 school service?)
Bus 4) 1623 ex Pendeford Business Park (possibly doing the 784 or 785 beforehand?)
Quote from: 4006 on October 21, 2014, 01:42:42 AM
1661 was on the 25 yesterday 20.10.14 (Late board)
There's one on tonight as well but didn't get a fleetnumber
Quote from: John on October 20, 2014, 05:45:47 PM
Quote from: clayderman on October 19, 2014, 11:07:35 PM
Quote from: NXDom on October 19, 2014, 09:15:04 PM
Just been sent these.
Is that? It can't be... FREE WIFI ON NXWM!!! :D Let's hope the WiFi slowly creeps onto other vehicles... (Newer E400s, B7RLES, etc...)
The 50 Enviro400s at Yardley Wood featured WiFi for a short time a few years ago. I don't know why it was discontinued. They all had this logo on them
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/6935815623/
:o :o Gosh. How did I miss those?? Can't blame myself; I've only ever used the 50 when they were operated by branded Tridents, so that's going back quite some time... :P
Quote from: Ashley on October 21, 2014, 08:55:24 PM
Quote from: 4006 on October 21, 2014, 01:42:42 AM
1661 was on the 25 yesterday 20.10.14 (Late board)
There's one on tonight as well but didn't get a fleetnumber
Saw 1670 on the 25 this afternoon so may be that one
http://www.route-one.net/industry/operations/express-service-west-midlands-business-parks/
Are 1670 and 1677 out today?
Quote from: Tony on October 24, 2014, 10:23:41 AM
Quote from: Ashley on October 24, 2014, 09:57:56 AM
Are 1670 and 1677 out today?
Both on the 82
Just got to Wolverhampton bus station and 1670 is on the 1120. Thanks Tony :)
Sorry, I've been away for 10 days abroad, just got back.
Can someone confirm if the 81's are getting free Wi-Fi? It's my local bus! :D
Quote from: ant29 on October 24, 2014, 08:51:33 PM
Sorry, I've been away for 10 days abroad, just got back.
Can someone confirm if the 81's are getting free Wi-Fi? It's my local bus! :D
To my knowledge, only the E200's for the 54 are getting Wi-Fi, and i think that's only getting that for the purpose of it being used as a work service, only an opinion though
Quote from: ant29 on October 24, 2014, 08:51:33 PM
Sorry, I've been away for 10 days abroad, just got back.
Can someone confirm if the 81's are getting free Wi-Fi? It's my local bus! :D
Welcome back. See Tony's post regarding the buses having Wi-Fi fitted. It's only for service 54. It's a fact. http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=1928.msg116103#msg116103
853 was on the 25 today still unbranded. I presume this will have Wi-Fi/Route branding fitted over the weekend?
Quote from: Nathan on October 24, 2014, 10:17:18 PM
853 was on the 25 today still unbranded. I presume this will have Wi-Fi/Route branding fitted over the weekend?
The Destinations have already been changed for the new routes on 853 so if there any reports of drivers displaying the wrong destination thats why ;D
Quote from: 4006 on October 25, 2014, 12:39:25 AM
Quote from: Nathan on October 24, 2014, 10:17:18 PM
853 was on the 25 today still unbranded. I presume this will have Wi-Fi/Route branding fitted over the weekend?
The Destinations have already been changed for the new routes on 853 so if there any reports of drivers displaying the wrong destination thats why ;D
2026 has aswell. Driver had to display 25E-Bilston instead because 25A/C could not be displayed
I think a fair few of the E200's have had their displays changed, 846 came into Willenhall yesterday displaying 25 Wolverhampton, instead of the 25A/C Wolverhampton Clockwise
Suppose there are pros & cons on both roller blinds & electronic displays!
Quote from: Nathan on October 25, 2014, 07:39:26 AM
Quote from: 4006 on October 25, 2014, 12:39:25 AM
Quote from: Nathan on October 24, 2014, 10:17:18 PM
853 was on the 25 today still unbranded. I presume this will have Wi-Fi/Route branding fitted over the weekend?
The Destinations have already been changed for the new routes on 853 so if there any reports of drivers displaying the wrong destination thats why ;D
2026 has aswell. Driver had to display 25E-Bilston instead because 25A/C could not be displayed
thats funny as 2026 was on the no.5 service!!
Quote from: mranon on October 25, 2014, 08:35:13 PM
Quote from: Nathan on October 25, 2014, 07:39:26 AM
Quote from: 4006 on October 25, 2014, 12:39:25 AM
Quote from: Nathan on October 24, 2014, 10:17:18 PM
853 was on the 25 today still unbranded. I presume this will have Wi-Fi/Route branding fitted over the weekend?
The Destinations have already been changed for the new routes on 853 so if there any reports of drivers displaying the wrong destination thats why ;D
2026 has aswell. Driver had to display 25E-Bilston instead because 25A/C could not be displayed
thats funny as 2026 was on the no.5 service!!
Only buses on the 25 today were E200s and Spectras
2068 (im pretty sure) was on stand d in wn bus station with 25e bilston on the blind around 17:40 ish
4017 was on the 25 today, the blinds kept changing from 25A to 25C...most confusing ???
Quote from: Tony on October 25, 2014, 08:56:48 PM
Quote from: mranon on October 25, 2014, 08:35:13 PM
Quote from: Nathan on October 25, 2014, 07:39:26 AM
Quote from: 4006 on October 25, 2014, 12:39:25 AM
Quote from: Nathan on October 24, 2014, 10:17:18 PM
853 was on the 25 today still unbranded. I presume this will have Wi-Fi/Route branding fitted over the weekend?
The Destinations have already been changed for the new routes on 853 so if there any reports of drivers displaying the wrong destination thats why ;D
2026 has aswell. Driver had to display 25E-Bilston instead because 25A/C could not be displayed
thats funny as 2026 was on the no.5 service!!
Only buses on the 25 today were E200s and Spectras
I was referring to Thursday. Apologies :)
5409 and 5416 are back in traffic after accident repairs. Both seen on the 1 yesterday.
Quote from: Nathan on October 26, 2014, 09:22:09 AM
Quote from: Tony on October 25, 2014, 08:56:48 PM
Quote from: mranon on October 25, 2014, 08:35:13 PM
Quote from: Nathan on October 25, 2014, 07:39:26 AM
Quote from: 4006 on October 25, 2014, 12:39:25 AM
Quote from: Nathan on October 24, 2014, 10:17:18 PM
853 was on the 25 today still unbranded. I presume this will have Wi-Fi/Route branding fitted over the weekend?
The Destinations have already been changed for the new routes on 853 so if there any reports of drivers displaying the wrong destination thats why ;D
2026 has aswell. Driver had to display 25E-Bilston instead because 25A/C could not be displayed
thats funny as 2026 was on the no.5 service!!
Only buses on the 25 today were E200s and Spectras
I was referring to Thursday. Apologies :)
5409 and 5416 are back in traffic after accident repairs. Both seen on the 1 yesterday.
2026 wasn't on the 25 Thursday Friday or Saturday
The b7 on the 25 was
2017 on Thursday
2013 on Friday that's what i saw
Ok i may have got the fleet number wrong ::) but my point was that one of the B7's i had on the 19:25 25C from W'ton must have already had its display updated earlier in the week as the driver could only display 25E-Bilston
4590 back in service after repaint. Seen on Wellington Rd in a 79E-Bilston about 07:50
Quote from: Nathan on October 27, 2014, 08:06:20 AM
4590 back in service after repaint. Seen on Wellington Rd in a 79E-Bilston about 07:50
Its been back on the road since Thursday or Friday mate
Quote from: Ashley on October 27, 2014, 10:00:29 AM
Quote from: Nathan on October 27, 2014, 08:06:20 AM
4590 back in service after repaint. Seen on Wellington Rd in a 79E-Bilston about 07:50
Its been back on the road since Thursday or Friday mate
Cheers Ashley for that :)
The Wi-Fi on the 54 is working perfectly. Very fast connection
On the topic of the 54....
4008 worked the extra bus this morning on the 54E to Pendeford Business Park. I'm not sure about mornings but the afternoon extra comes off a school so may well be a double decker daily
Have we found out what rota the 54 is on?
Quote from: NXDom on October 28, 2014, 08:52:18 AM
Have we found out what rota the 54 is on?
Codsall rota
Quote from: NXDom on October 28, 2014, 09:18:46 AM
Quote from: Ashley on October 28, 2014, 08:53:40 AM
Quote from: NXDom on October 28, 2014, 08:52:18 AM
Have we found out what rota the 54 is on?
Codsall rota
oh ok I wasn't sure if we knew yet haha
Not that its majorly relevant to passenger enthusiasts, what we do know is Tha yesterdays loadings. For the first day seemed encouraging and personally I can see the 54 being a nicer alternative to the 5 for regular bus users in Bilbrook
54 is also on the starter rota (amongst most other routes in the garage) :)
Recent Arrivals? Spares Or Repair?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/15468214990/
Quote from: 4006 on October 28, 2014, 09:43:06 PM
Recent Arrivals? Spares Or Repair?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/15468214990/
I don't think 244 is Tha bad and 677 ive never had so that's ok if they are transferred but could it be MOT?
Quote from: 4006 on October 28, 2014, 09:43:06 PM
Recent Arrivals? Spares Or Repair?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/15468214990/
Surely transfer as E200s are replacing B6s at WA?
Quote from: 4006 on October 28, 2014, 09:43:06 PM
Recent Arrivals? Spares Or Repair?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/15468214990/
Transfers. WN have been told to pick the best 14 B6's left at NX to run so they have transferred 244 and 677 from WA. How many will be left now? I presume a couple of WN's worst will be withdrawn
1670/77 will probably be withdrawn now.
Quote from: Nathan on October 29, 2014, 07:22:14 AM
Quote from: 4006 on October 28, 2014, 09:43:06 PM
Recent Arrivals? Spares Or Repair?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/15468214990/
Transfers. WN have been told to pick the best 14 B6's left at NX to run so they have transferred 244 and 677 from WA. How many will be left now? I presume a couple of WN's worst will be withdrawn
1670/77 will probably be withdrawn now.
244 only had its MoT in September so may be the last one standing
634 got swapped on to the 82 yesterday and overheated after half a trip.
677 is in service on the 11 today.
Also 1670 is still hanging in there on the 32 or 33 and 1677 is on the 11
4016 - 1
Quote from: filbus1 on October 29, 2014, 04:24:59 PM
4016 - 1
Swapped for 4573 from the 59. 4016 then went onto the 59
244 is on the 11 today if anybody is looking for it
4001 is about to depart Wolverhampton Bus Station at 07:45 on the peak extra 54E to Pendeford Business Park
Saw 4587 going down Stafford Rd by 5 ways this morning being driven by an engineer displaying '59-Ashmore Park'
I have no idea why it was displaying that?
Quote from: Nathan on October 30, 2014, 07:36:25 AM
244 is on the 11 today if anybody is looking for it
4001 is about to depart Wolverhampton Bus Station at 07:45 on the peak extra 54E to Pendeford Business Park
Saw 4587 going down Stafford Rd by 5 ways this morning being driven by an engineer displaying '59-Ashmore Park'
I have no idea why it was displaying that?
Any ideas for times around 1:30 ish?
244 now has a WN roller blind aswell.
Currently sat on 4323 waiting for the 126 behind due to a flat tyre.... Lovely jubbley
Quote from: NXDom on October 30, 2014, 10:05:32 AM
Quote from: Nathan on October 30, 2014, 07:36:25 AM
244 is on the 11 today if anybody is looking for it
4001 is about to depart Wolverhampton Bus Station at 07:45 on the peak extra 54E to Pendeford Business Park
Saw 4587 going down Stafford Rd by 5 ways this morning being driven by an engineer displaying '59-Ashmore Park'
I have no idea why it was displaying that?
Any ideas for times around 1:30 ish?
244 now has a WN roller blind aswell.
244 had its roller blinds fitted on arrival to WN.
4017 worked the extra 54 this afternoon.
It appears one of the 6 running boards includes a 54 trip in the morning.
Also 3/07 appears to be allocated a Spectra during the half term hence why 4017 and 4004 have appeared on the 3. Will most likely be a Spectra tomorrow too.
Quote from: Nathan on October 30, 2014, 07:36:25 AM
244 is on the 11 today if anybody is looking for it
4001 is about to depart Wolverhampton Bus Station at 07:45 on the peak extra 54E to Pendeford Business Park
Saw 4587 going down Stafford Rd by 5 ways this morning being driven by an engineer displaying '59-Ashmore Park'
I have no idea why it was displaying that?
Engineers don't get booked or told off for displaying wrong destinations lol must have come off a 59 though
Quote from: 4006 on November 01, 2014, 04:00:10 PM
Quote from: Nathan on October 30, 2014, 07:36:25 AM
244 is on the 11 today if anybody is looking for it
4001 is about to depart Wolverhampton Bus Station at 07:45 on the peak extra 54E to Pendeford Business Park
Saw 4587 going down Stafford Rd by 5 ways this morning being driven by an engineer displaying '59-Ashmore Park'
I have no idea why it was displaying that?
Engineers don't get booked or told off for displaying wrong destinations lol must have come off a 59 though
They do if seen. All engineers have an instruction to display not in service when on test runs & changeovers
4006, I found out it did indeed break down earlier on that morning whilst on the 59.
It was back out on the 126 in the afternoon
Caught 854 on the 54 from bilbrook at 14:02 yesterday. Was curious to see the loadings cause my friend works in Pendeford business Park. There were 2 people getting off in bilbrook from the inbound journey, just me to Pendeford, and a handful getting on there and at i54. For a mid afternoon journey I'd say that was quite healthy, can only imagine that deckers would be perfect for peak times.
Quote from: Kevin on November 04, 2014, 04:00:41 PM
Caught 854 on the 54 from bilbrook at 14:02 yesterday. Was curious to see the loadings cause my friend works in Pendeford business Park. There were 2 people getting off in bilbrook from the inbound journey, just me to Pendeford, and a handful getting on there and at i54. For a mid afternoon journey I'd say that was quite healthy, can only imagine that deckers would be perfect for peak times.
I have seen near full/full loads leave Wolverhampton Bus Station in the peak hours. The peak extra in the afternoon i believe is usually a Spectra as it comes off a school board
669 now at PL as noted in another thread
For the Merc fans, 1677 is on late 11/32/33 unless swapped
Buses unable to serve Queen St in Wolverhampton this afternoon due to a fire
Quote from: Nathan on November 05, 2014, 08:59:06 PM
Buses unable to serve Queen St in Wolverhampton this afternoon due to a fire
Turns out it wasn't a fire but an anti-burglar device ???
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2014/11/05/firefighters-called-to-reported-wolverhampton-firefire-which-turned-out-to-be-anti-burglar-device/ (http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2014/11/05/firefighters-called-to-reported-wolverhampton-firefire-which-turned-out-to-be-anti-burglar-device/)
669 has now got a Wolverhampton blind
I passed the following WN Tridents at about 2200-2230 yesterday evening on Himley Park routes 251 and 253 heading back towards Stourbridge - 4553, 4575, 4569, 4606, 4584 and 4608.
4537 and 4540 also noted on Himley Shuttles last night
Quote from: Nathan on November 09, 2014, 10:34:11 AM
4537 and 4540 also noted on Himley Shuttles last night
On the 126 are there any buses that run on Saturdays other than the tridents
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 09, 2014, 03:21:03 PM
Quote from: Nathan on November 09, 2014, 10:34:11 AM
4537 and 4540 also noted on Himley Shuttles last night
On the 126 are there any buses that run on Saturdays other than the tridents
Two questions. One how is that related to what Nathan said? and two you never know!
Quote from: NXDom on November 09, 2014, 03:29:16 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 09, 2014, 03:21:03 PM
Quote from: Nathan on November 09, 2014, 10:34:11 AM
4537 and 4540 also noted on Himley Shuttles last night
On the 126 are there any buses that run on Saturdays other than the tridents
Two questions. One how is that related to what Nathan said? and two you never know!
Didn't mean to link with his
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 09, 2014, 03:21:03 PM
Quote from: Nathan on November 09, 2014, 10:34:11 AM
4537 and 4540 also noted on Himley Shuttles last night
On the 126 are there any buses that run on Saturdays other than the tridents
As i mentioned in the noteworthy workings thread 2018 did make an appearance on the 126 last night
662 was on the 244 service Dudley-Hashbury via Halesowen, this afternoon around 14:30-14:40
Is 1669 still at WN. I have seen the other four 1661, 1670, 1671 and 1677 on my visits to WN recently, but not 1669 and it has not been mentioned in these columns, as far as I can see.
Quote from: Eric Shaw on November 14, 2014, 08:57:04 PM
Is 1669 still at WN. I have seen the other four 1661, 1670, 1671 and 1677 on my visits to WN recently, but not 1669 and it has not been mentioned in these columns, as far as I can see.
No, it's withdrawn.
Quote from: Eric Shaw on November 14, 2014, 08:57:04 PM
Is 1669 still at WN. I have seen the other four 1661, 1670, 1671 and 1677 on my visits to WN recently, but not 1669 and it has not been mentioned in these columns, as far as I can see.
1670/77 were the only two still in regular service at WN until 1670 transferred to PE yesterday/today. 1670 managed to make a rare appearance on a peak extra 59
Where have all the spectras been today? Only seen 6 of em......
Quote from: X94 on November 18, 2014, 07:49:25 PM
Where have all the spectras been today? Only seen 6 of em......
They now appear on the 25's and 82's plus one on the 3. Spectra's are no longer allocated to 59's and 79's unless one may appear as a replacement for a breakdown (Like 4020 on 59's this afternoon replacing 4547). A fair few work school duties in the morning and afternoon too.
Quote from: Nathan on November 18, 2014, 08:28:44 PM
Quote from: X94 on November 18, 2014, 07:49:25 PM
Where have all the spectras been today? Only seen 6 of em......
They now appear on the 25's and 82's plus one on the 3. Spectra's are no longer allocated to 59's and 79's unless one may appear as a replacement for a breakdown (Like 4020 on 59's this afternoon replacing 4547). A fair few work school duties in the morning and afternoon too.
They also appear on metro replacement ( 79E) some time as well
Quote from: jack4325 on November 18, 2014, 08:56:43 PM
Quote from: Nathan on November 18, 2014, 08:28:44 PM
Quote from: X94 on November 18, 2014, 07:49:25 PM
Where have all the spectras been today? Only seen 6 of em......
They now appear on the 25's and 82's plus one on the 3. Spectra's are no longer allocated to 59's and 79's unless one may appear as a replacement for a breakdown (Like 4020 on 59's this afternoon replacing 4547). A fair few work school duties in the morning and afternoon too.
They also appear on metro replacement ( 79E) some time as well
They often appear at PL usually end up on the ramps for a few days :o :o :o
Quote from: 4006 on November 18, 2014, 10:06:00 PM
Quote from: jack4325 on November 18, 2014, 08:56:43 PM
Quote from: Nathan on November 18, 2014, 08:28:44 PM
Quote from: X94 on November 18, 2014, 07:49:25 PM
Where have all the spectras been today? Only seen 6 of em......
They now appear on the 25's and 82's plus one on the 3. Spectra's are no longer allocated to 59's and 79's unless one may appear as a replacement for a breakdown (Like 4020 on 59's this afternoon replacing 4547). A fair few work school duties in the morning and afternoon too.
They also appear on metro replacement ( 79E) some time as well
They often appear at PL usually end up on the ramps for a few days :o :o :o
There's a few In Barnsley ;)
Quote from: Ashley on November 18, 2014, 10:10:50 PM
Quote from: 4006 on November 18, 2014, 10:06:00 PM
Quote from: jack4325 on November 18, 2014, 08:56:43 PM
Quote from: Nathan on November 18, 2014, 08:28:44 PM
Quote from: X94 on November 18, 2014, 07:49:25 PM
Where have all the spectras been today? Only seen 6 of em......
They now appear on the 25's and 82's plus one on the 3. Spectra's are no longer allocated to 59's and 79's unless one may appear as a replacement for a breakdown (Like 4020 on 59's this afternoon replacing 4547). A fair few work school duties in the morning and afternoon too.
They also appear on metro replacement ( 79E) some time as well
They often appear at PL usually end up on the ramps for a few days :o :o :o
There's a few In Barnsley ;)
Please spare me the pain....
Quote from: 4006 on November 18, 2014, 10:16:48 PM
Quote from: Ashley on November 18, 2014, 10:10:50 PM
Quote from: 4006 on November 18, 2014, 10:06:00 PM
Quote from: jack4325 on November 18, 2014, 08:56:43 PM
Quote from: Nathan on November 18, 2014, 08:28:44 PM
Quote from: X94 on November 18, 2014, 07:49:25 PM
Where have all the spectras been today? Only seen 6 of em......
They now appear on the 25's and 82's plus one on the 3. Spectra's are no longer allocated to 59's and 79's unless one may appear as a replacement for a breakdown (Like 4020 on 59's this afternoon replacing 4547). A fair few work school duties in the morning and afternoon too.
They also appear on metro replacement ( 79E) some time as well
They often appear at PL usually end up on the ramps for a few days :o :o :o
There's a few In Barnsley ;)
Please spare me the pain....
I'll live...
4606 taken out of service on the 59 a few minutes ago because of a wet seat.
Everyone on the bus transferred to the bus behind, 4535.
Has someone had an 'accident' then?
Quote from: Westy on November 19, 2014, 11:24:29 AM
Has someone had an 'accident' then?
They are always 'having accidents' :P :P :P :P
Unbranded E200 848 is on the 54 today. Just departed Wolverhampton Bus Station at 17:10
850 was on 54 early this morning but was replaced by 853 at some point. 854 seen around mid day on stafford road heading towards wolves "not in service"
1759 WA on the 529 @13.30
Also 4 got 2 mention that last week I saw 1876 on wolves ring road displaying '7 Perry Common' lol
Also 4953 at WN garage 2day
Does anybody know what routes 508, 601, 620, 634 and 638 are on today? Thanks in advance
Quote from: Ashley on November 22, 2014, 08:38:15 AM
Does anybody know what routes 508, 601, 620, 634 and 638 are on today? Thanks in advance
Three of them out so far
508 - 32
634 - 25
638 - 11
662 is back home now. Saw it being driven by the engineer and parked on Stand B bay. Looks like a swap with 640 on WN 25.
Quote from: Tony on November 22, 2014, 08:43:05 AM
Quote from: Ashley on November 22, 2014, 08:38:15 AM
Does anybody know what routes 508, 601, 620, 634 and 638 are on today? Thanks in advance
Three of them out so far
508 - 32
634 - 25
638 - 11
601 is on WN 11. 620 is also on WN 11, departed Wolverhampton Bus Station at 16:30.
Quote from: P419 EJW on November 22, 2014, 04:54:44 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 22, 2014, 08:43:05 AM
Quote from: Ashley on November 22, 2014, 08:38:15 AM
Does anybody know what routes 508, 601, 620, 634 and 638 are on today? Thanks in advance
Three of them out so far
508 - 32
634 - 25
638 - 11
601 is on WN 11. 620 is also on WN 11, departed Wolverhampton Bus Station at 16:30.
I did find them all for a change. Thank you
4132 is taking a break off its Amazon duties today (Sunday). Its out on the 79 (Plus 32/33) today
4019 has been withdrawn.
Quote from: Nathan on October 30, 2014, 07:47:24 PM
Quote from: NXDom on October 30, 2014, 10:05:32 AM
Quote from: Nathan on October 30, 2014, 07:36:25 AM
244 is on the 11 today if anybody is looking for it
4001 is about to depart Wolverhampton Bus Station at 07:45 on the peak extra 54E to Pendeford Business Park
Saw 4587 going down Stafford Rd by 5 ways this morning being driven by an engineer displaying '59-Ashmore Park'
I have no idea why it was displaying that?
Any ideas for times around 1:30 ish?
244 now has a WN roller blind aswell.
244 had its roller blinds fitted on arrival to WN.
4017 worked the extra 54 this afternoon.
It appears one of the 6 running boards includes a 54 trip in the morning.
Also 3/07 appears to be allocated a Spectra during the half term hence why 4017 and 4004 have appeared on the 3. Will most likely be a Spectra tomorrow too.
Probably old gen now but the first 54 off Bilbrook is a 6 branded Volvo, see it most mornings.
Wat do people thing to pl withdrawing of mercs
Quote from: Jack jones on November 23, 2014, 08:00:03 PM
Wat do people thing to pl withdrawing of mercs
I'll miss the ones we had, but sadly we have to endure the E200's now. This could be one reason I'm slowly starting to like Eclipse 2's
You can have them all back and we will take the enviro 200 at pn
Quote from: DOC37V on November 23, 2014, 07:06:14 PM
Quote from: Nathan on October 30, 2014, 07:47:24 PM
Quote from: NXDom on October 30, 2014, 10:05:32 AM
Quote from: Nathan on October 30, 2014, 07:36:25 AM
244 is on the 11 today if anybody is looking for it
4001 is about to depart Wolverhampton Bus Station at 07:45 on the peak extra 54E to Pendeford Business Park
Saw 4587 going down Stafford Rd by 5 ways this morning being driven by an engineer displaying '59-Ashmore Park'
I have no idea why it was displaying that?
Any ideas for times around 1:30 ish?
244 now has a WN roller blind aswell.
244 had its roller blinds fitted on arrival to WN.
4017 worked the extra 54 this afternoon.
It appears one of the 6 running boards includes a 54 trip in the morning.
Also 3/07 appears to be allocated a Spectra during the half term hence why 4017 and 4004 have appeared on the 3. Will most likely be a Spectra tomorrow too.
Probably old gen now but the first 54 off Bilbrook is a 6 branded Volvo, see it most mornings.
Yes it is on a 6 running board (6/02 i think) :)
and a fine journey it is too on the volvo. shame the volvos wasn't on the 54 all day
Anybody know where 4005, 4018 and 4020 are today please? Thanks
Quote from: X94 on November 26, 2014, 08:41:03 AM
Anybody know where 4005, 4018 and 4020 are today please? Thanks
4005 is on the 82
4018 is in garage
4020 is on the 794 school service
Quote from: Tony on November 26, 2014, 08:43:36 AM
Quote from: X94 on November 26, 2014, 08:41:03 AM
Anybody know where 4005, 4018 and 4020 are today please? Thanks
4005 is on the 82
4018 is in garage
4020 is on the 794 school service
Thank you. Will 4020 just go back to the garage after or will I go out in service?
Quote from: X94 on November 26, 2014, 09:32:55 AM
Quote from: Tony on November 26, 2014, 08:43:36 AM
Quote from: X94 on November 26, 2014, 08:41:03 AM
Anybody know where 4005, 4018 and 4020 are today please? Thanks
4005 is on the 82
4018 is in garage
4020 is on the 794 school service
Thank you. Will 4020 just go back to the garage after or will I go out in service?
Pretty sure the 794 goes straight back to garage
Can someone clarify if i'm going mental or not. I saw a 126 on the b'ham new road as I do most days and it looked as if the number was bigger and that the font was different. The number looked like what it was when the numbers were on the left.
nah I saw one the other day with a bigger number too, definitely not going mad.
Quote from: trident4370 on November 26, 2014, 05:20:47 PM
nah I saw one the other day with a bigger number too, definitely not going mad.
No you are not mad. Certain tridents have indeed had their fonts changed. 529's, 255/6's also appear bigger. The 59's numbers now appear to be rounder, like how BC's 59 was displayed when tridents were used.
Also 4325 has a Super-x scrolling display. Like BC it displays not in service then something about the live bus app scrolling underneath.
4006 was on the 255 this evening.
Trident on the 0530 3 ex Castlecroft
Quote from: Ashley on November 28, 2014, 05:53:24 AM
Trident on the 0530 3 ex Castlecroft
3/01 was allocated 4547
Anything interesting on the 126 today please?
Quote from: 1707 on November 29, 2014, 11:58:56 AM
Anything interesting on the 126 today please?
Only if you find Tridents interesting
Not really, old all the way for me. Just forms transport into Bham later and as the odd bits do get through from time to time thought I would ask. Much appreciated Tony, thanks.
ZF Trident on 3/01 and a Voith Trident on funky 3/07
What's funky about 3/07?
3/07 is the botad on the number 3 to get tridents and spectras instead of B7
3/01 is 4555 and funky 3/07 is 4571
Quote from: Ashley on December 01, 2014, 02:33:39 PM
3/01 is 4555 and funky 3/07 is 4571
I wonder if 3/01 will be allocated a double decker also from now on? There was a Trident on that board on Friday too
2026 had a little accident earlier on. On the 82 the driver stopped at the front of the stop and as he went to pull of smashed the wing mirror off the shelter and fully disconnected it.
Reading the Daily Mail, and I came across this article, new Platinum buses. However, the 126 route is pictured in the image!
Can someone give some more info or anything to add? :D
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/new-platinum-buses-promise-suit-wearing-8201166 (http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/new-platinum-buses-promise-suit-wearing-8201166)
Quote from: NXDom on December 01, 2014, 06:32:57 PM
2026 had a little accident earlier on. On the 82 the driver stopped at the front of the stop and as he went to pull of smashed the wing mirror off the shelter and fully disconnected it.
Where and what time did that happen?
Quote from: ant29 on December 01, 2014, 07:47:02 PM
Reading the Daily Mail, and I came across this article, new Platinum buses. However, the 126 route is pictured in the image!
Can someone give some more info or anything to add? :D
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/new-platinum-buses-promise-suit-wearing-8201166 (http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/new-platinum-buses-promise-suit-wearing-8201166)
It would not surprise me if the 126 was to receive new MMC E400's (In the new Maroon livery) next year...
Quote from: Ashley on December 01, 2014, 09:38:59 AM
ZF Trident on 3/01 and a Voith Trident on funky 3/07
Nothing funky bout 3/07 quite undesirable tell the truth!
A new visitor to Park Lane today:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/15936858632/
Quote from: 4006 on December 03, 2014, 12:58:42 PM
A new visitor to Park Lane today:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/15936858632/
Saw this around 3pm on dartmouth middleway:
Quote from: pb2012 on December 03, 2014, 06:33:57 PM
Quote from: 4006 on December 03, 2014, 12:58:42 PM
A new visitor to Park Lane today:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/15936858632/
Saw this around 3pm on dartmouth middleway:
For WN to have a look around perhaps, strengthening the rumour that the 126 is to get new buses?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 03, 2014, 09:08:46 PM
Quote from: pb2012 on December 03, 2014, 06:33:57 PM
Quote from: 4006 on December 03, 2014, 12:58:42 PM
A new visitor to Park Lane today:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/15936858632/
Saw this around 3pm on dartmouth middleway:
For WN to have a look around perhaps, strengthening the rumour that the 126 is to get new buses?
Although the 126 a most probable choice I believe WN are to receive new E400MMC 'Premier' branded buses but the route has not been disclosed
either way the livery and the new standard livery is a lot better than the current effort but why didn't they do this livery to start with?
Who are they!!!
4592 back out in service repainted on the 255 this afternoon but still with its original TWM moquette
May be NX could write a letter to Santa asking for new seats for Christmas. If they ask really nicely may he could fit them as well why not bus won't doing any thing that day.
Do the E200s have Super X displays because they look as if they do just slightly different to PN or BC.
Quote from: 2900 on December 06, 2014, 10:06:00 AM
May be NX could write a letter to Santa asking for new seats for Christmas. If they ask really nicely may he could fit them as well why not bus won't doing any thing that day.
Maybe they could add to the list 'fix heating'.....just a thought.. ::)
Quote from: NXDom on December 06, 2014, 01:02:37 PM
Do the E200s have Super X displays because they look as if they do just slightly different to PN or BC.
I don't think WN's have Super X displays.
However, it appears 5405 has gained a Super X display now.
4538 on 126, looks like this bus doesn't have the door interlock, or it is broken.
Faulty 4016 swapped for 4017 on 3/07 on the Stafford Road a short while ago
The 17:10 82 from Dudley has (i'm guessing) just ran dead from dudley down to roseville as it was just gone down ivy house lane showing 82 W'ton.
The 82 now is becoming stupid!
The 16:00 from wolves came to daisy bank timing point today at 17:01.
The 16:20 from wolves came directly behind it.
Only ONCE last week did the 16:00 actually turn up even then it was 15 mins late.
I PRAY THAT AFTER THIS TIMETABLE CHANGE THE SERVICE IS BETTER. I am fed up of waitng 20 mins for a bus that dosen't even turn up!
Quote from: NXDom on December 15, 2014, 07:17:55 PM
The 82 now is becoming stupid!
The 16:00 from wolves came to daisy bank timing point today at 17:01.
The 16:20 from wolves came directly behind it.
Only ONCE last week did the 16:00 actually turn up even then it was 15 mins late.
I PRAY THAT AFTER THIS TIMETABLE CHANGE THE SERVICE IS BETTER. I am fed up of waitng 20 mins for a bus that dosen't even turn up!
Hi Dom, did you notice the fleetnumber of the bus tonight? It is not showing on the system, so needs reporting as defective. It should have been 4001, but that got taken off earlier
Quote from: Tony on December 15, 2014, 07:28:00 PM
Quote from: NXDom on December 15, 2014, 07:17:55 PM
The 82 now is becoming stupid!
The 16:00 from wolves came to daisy bank timing point today at 17:01.
The 16:20 from wolves came directly behind it.
Only ONCE last week did the 16:00 actually turn up even then it was 15 mins late.
I PRAY THAT AFTER THIS TIMETABLE CHANGE THE SERVICE IS BETTER. I am fed up of waitng 20 mins for a bus that dosen't even turn up!
Hi Dom, did you notice the fleetnumber of the bus tonight? It is not showing on the system, so needs reporting as defective. It should have been 4001, but that got taken off earlier
Yep it was 4001, it hadn't been changed, did not catch the one behind it.
844 sounds knackered already, had it on WN28 earlier and there was a weird crunching noise coming the back left side near the engine, sounded like it was coming from the gearbox?
Quote from: ARJ2901 on December 15, 2014, 08:16:32 PM
844 sounds knackered already, had it on WN28 earlier and there was a weird crunching noise coming the back left side near the engine, sounded like it was coming from the gearbox?
I had 844 in the morning i seat at the back and the nose was so loud like a rattle
Quote from: Tony on December 15, 2014, 07:28:00 PM
Quote from: NXDom on December 15, 2014, 07:17:55 PM
The 82 now is becoming stupid!
The 16:00 from wolves came to daisy bank timing point today at 17:01.
The 16:20 from wolves came directly behind it.
Only ONCE last week did the 16:00 actually turn up even then it was 15 mins late.
I PRAY THAT AFTER THIS TIMETABLE CHANGE THE SERVICE IS BETTER. I am fed up of waitng 20 mins for a bus that dosen't even turn up!
Hi Dom, did you notice the fleetnumber of the bus tonight? It is not showing on the system, so needs reporting as defective. It should have been 4001, but that got taken off earlier
If its any help Tony 4011 the 15:40 from wolves was changed earlier in the day for a B7.
Quote from: NXDom on December 16, 2014, 08:09:36 AM
Quote from: Tony on December 15, 2014, 07:28:00 PM
Quote from: NXDom on December 15, 2014, 07:17:55 PM
The 82 now is becoming stupid!
The 16:00 from wolves came to daisy bank timing point today at 17:01.
The 16:20 from wolves came directly behind it.
Only ONCE last week did the 16:00 actually turn up even then it was 15 mins late.
I PRAY THAT AFTER THIS TIMETABLE CHANGE THE SERVICE IS BETTER. I am fed up of waitng 20 mins for a bus that dosen't even turn up!
Hi Dom, did you notice the fleetnumber of the bus tonight? It is not showing on the system, so needs reporting as defective. It should have been 4001, but that got taken off earlier
If its any help Tony 4011 the 15:40 from wolves was changed earlier in the day for a B7.
No it is just one running board disappeared, so it looks like 4001 had an AVL equipment failure which I will report this morning if it is still not working
Quote from: NXDom on December 16, 2014, 08:09:36 AM
Quote from: Tony on December 15, 2014, 07:28:00 PM
Quote from: NXDom on December 15, 2014, 07:17:55 PM
The 82 now is becoming stupid!
The 16:00 from wolves came to daisy bank timing point today at 17:01.
The 16:20 from wolves came directly behind it.
Only ONCE last week did the 16:00 actually turn up even then it was 15 mins late.
I PRAY THAT AFTER THIS TIMETABLE CHANGE THE SERVICE IS BETTER. I am fed up of waitng 20 mins for a bus that dosen't even turn up!
Hi Dom, did you notice the fleetnumber of the bus tonight? It is not showing on the system, so needs reporting as defective. It should have been 4001, but that got taken off earlier
If its any help Tony 4011 the 15:40 from wolves was changed earlier in the day for a B7.
1540 off Wolverhampton should have been 2028 i believe yesterday
Quote from: NXDom on December 15, 2014, 07:17:55 PM
The 82 now is becoming stupid!
The 16:00 from wolves came to daisy bank timing point today at 17:01.
The 16:20 from wolves came directly behind it.
Only ONCE last week did the 16:00 actually turn up even then it was 15 mins late.
I PRAY THAT AFTER THIS TIMETABLE CHANGE THE SERVICE IS BETTER. I am fed up of waitng 20 mins for a bus that dosen't even turn up!
You're not the only one, Dom. The 13:40 ex Wolverhampton did not arrive. Had to catch the 14:00... Great service from the 82. Not. The reliability has gone down the hill.
Its starting to take the p*ss a bit now.
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 16, 2014, 02:43:22 PM
Quote from: NXDom on December 15, 2014, 07:17:55 PM
The 82 now is becoming stupid!
The 16:00 from wolves came to daisy bank timing point today at 17:01.
The 16:20 from wolves came directly behind it.
Only ONCE last week did the 16:00 actually turn up even then it was 15 mins late.
I PRAY THAT AFTER THIS TIMETABLE CHANGE THE SERVICE IS BETTER. I am fed up of waitng 20 mins for a bus that dosen't even turn up!
You're not the only one, Dom. The 13:40 ex Wolverhampton did not arrive. Had to catch the 14:00... Great service from the 82. Not. The reliability has gone down the hill.
I know the reliability is abit scewiff of late but its hardly as though we live in the middle of absolutely nowhere. Normally there's a perfectly valid reason for late running, but you'd be hard pressed to fibd a person whose bus has never been late
Quote from: Ashley on December 16, 2014, 03:43:08 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 16, 2014, 02:43:22 PM
Quote from: NXDom on December 15, 2014, 07:17:55 PM
The 82 now is becoming stupid!
The 16:00 from wolves came to daisy bank timing point today at 17:01.
The 16:20 from wolves came directly behind it.
Only ONCE last week did the 16:00 actually turn up even then it was 15 mins late.
I PRAY THAT AFTER THIS TIMETABLE CHANGE THE SERVICE IS BETTER. I am fed up of waitng 20 mins for a bus that dosen't even turn up!
You're not the only one, Dom. The 13:40 ex Wolverhampton did not arrive. Had to catch the 14:00... Great service from the 82. Not. The reliability has gone down the hill.
I know the reliability is abit scewiff of late but its hardly as though we live in the middle of absolutely nowhere. Normally there's a perfectly valid reason for late running, but you'd be hard pressed to fibd a person whose bus has never been late
Looking at the 82 for the last two days there has been very little late running on it. The 13:40 is the same running board as the 16:00 and it appears 4001 had to go back to garage for some reason yesterday, hence the 13:40 missing and the 16:00 running late
Ashley - No shit, Sherlock(!)
Tony - The 82 was late this morning, it was supposed to arrive my bus stop at 08:20 towards Wolverhampton and arrive at 08:36. But it arrived at my bus stop at 08:26. It might depart the bus station on time but doesn't arrive on time at my bus stop.
I saw 4001 on 529 so it couldn't be on 82 today. Was there a bus serving that board today?
Buses don't have wings, they can't go over the top of traffic. They have to just sit there the only way around someone being late is to catch an earlier bus.
Quote from: Andrew on December 16, 2014, 05:56:01 PM
Buses don't have wings, they can't go over the top of traffic. They have to just sit there the only way around someone being late is to catch an earlier bus.
Ah! So that's where ADL have gone wrong :-)
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 16, 2014, 04:38:22 PM
Ashley - No shit, Sherlock(!)
Tony - The 82 was late this morning, it was supposed to arrive my bus stop at 08:20 towards Wolverhampton and arrive at 08:36. But it arrived at my bus stop at 08:26. It might depart the bus station on time but doesn't arrive on time at my bus stop.
I saw 4001 on 529 so it couldn't be on 82 today. Was there a bus serving that board today?
Yes I know 4001 was on the 529 today, the query was about yesterday. It was 4012 today. As for the general moan about this service, between 06:00 and 15:30 there was only one bus that either left Wolverhampton.
As for your comment about your bus being 6 minutes late (hardly a disaster in the morning peak) I presume you are referring to 4017 which was 6 minutes late at Deansfield School. This bus left Dudley exactly on time at 07:30 and is due to Arrive Wolverhampton Bus Station at 08:36. It actually arrived at 08:37, so the driver still got you to your destination on time. There was actually only one arrival in Wolverhampton Bus Station this morning outside VOSA's 4 minute guideline and that was 4020 which got stuck at Chad Road, Dudley for 10 minutes
Quote from: Tony on December 16, 2014, 06:31:26 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 16, 2014, 04:38:22 PM
Ashley - No shit, Sherlock(!)
Tony - The 82 was late this morning, it was supposed to arrive my bus stop at 08:20 towards Wolverhampton and arrive at 08:36. But it arrived at my bus stop at 08:26. It might depart the bus station on time but doesn't arrive on time at my bus stop.
I saw 4001 on 529 so it couldn't be on 82 today. Was there a bus serving that board today?
Yes I know 4001 was on the 529 today, the query was about yesterday. It was 4012 today. As for the general moan about this service, between 06:00 and 15:30 there was only one bus that either left Wolverhampton.
As for your comment about your bus being 6 minutes late (hardly a disaster in the morning peak) I presume you are referring to 4017 which was 6 minutes late at Deansfield School. This bus left Dudley exactly on time at 07:30 and is due to Arrive Wolverhampton Bus Station at 08:36. It actually arrived at 08:37, so the driver still got you to your destination on time. There was actually only one arrival in Wolverhampton Bus Station this morning outside VOSA's 4 minute guideline and that was 4020 which got stuck at Chad Road, Dudley for 10 minutes
Thank you for your reply. Yes, you are correct about the location and it was 4016 I caught this morning.
Quote from: Tony on December 16, 2014, 06:31:26 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 16, 2014, 04:38:22 PM
Ashley - No shit, Sherlock(!)
Tony - The 82 was late this morning, it was supposed to arrive my bus stop at 08:20 towards Wolverhampton and arrive at 08:36. But it arrived at my bus stop at 08:26. It might depart the bus station on time but doesn't arrive on time at my bus stop.
I saw 4001 on 529 so it couldn't be on 82 today. Was there a bus serving that board today?
Yes I know 4001 was on the 529 today, the query was about yesterday. It was 4012 today. As for the general moan about this service, between 06:00 and 15:30 there was only one bus that either left Wolverhampton.
As for your comment about your bus being 6 minutes late (hardly a disaster in the morning peak) I presume you are referring to 4017 which was 6 minutes late at Deansfield School. This bus left Dudley exactly on time at 07:30 and is due to Arrive Wolverhampton Bus Station at 08:36. It actually arrived at 08:37, so the driver still got you to your destination on time. There was actually only one arrival in Wolverhampton Bus Station this morning outside VOSA's 4 minute guideline and that was 4020 which got stuck at Chad Road, Dudley for 10 minutes
I have this board every morning for school and it got to darlaston lane (Opp) bang on time.
i may be wrong but i think 4001 was sent out to replace 4604 which sounded rather loud and powerful (think exhaust blowing).
Quote from: mranon on December 16, 2014, 08:20:23 PM
i may be wrong but i think 4001 was sent out to replace 4604 which sounded rather loud and powerful (think exhaust blowing).
Well it was booked on school board 785/01 so was a swap
It appears RB 3/01 is now allocated a Trident instead of a B7. Any ideas why?
The extra 10mins to be added on after the changes on the afternoon 82's will help but will it be enough?
The major problem with the 82 and routes like it they get ignored and are left 'to run' it seams everybody is too busy concentrating on high frequency services like the 59, 1 and 126. Surely priority should be for less frequent services like the 81,82,25,27,28? for example. I feel especially sorry for passengers who use the 27 if a bus goes missing they have to wait an hour. These wingers who have to wait 15mins for a 1 or 59...Stop complaining!!! :P :P :P
Quote from: 4006 on December 16, 2014, 08:58:58 PM
The extra 10mins to be added on after the changes on the afternoon 82's will help but will it be enough?
The major problem with the 82 and routes like it they get ignored and are left 'to run' it seams everybody is too busy concentrating on high frequency services like the 59, 1 and 126. Surely priority should be for less frequent services like the 81,82,25,27,28? for example. I feel especially sorry for passengers who use the 27 if a bus goes missing they have to wait an hour. These wingers who have to wait 15mins for a 1 or 59...Stop complaining!!! :P :P :P
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Quote from: 4006 on December 16, 2014, 08:58:58 PM
The extra 10mins to be added on after the changes on the afternoon 82's will help but will it be enough?
The major problem with the 82 and routes like it they get ignored and are left 'to run' it seams everybody is too busy concentrating on high frequency services like the 59, 1 and 126. Surely priority should be for less frequent services like the 81,82,25,27,28? for example. I feel especially sorry for passengers who use the 27 if a bus goes missing they have to wait an hour. These wingers who have to wait 15mins for a 1 or 59...Stop complaining!!! :P :P :P
The 28's fairly reliable, as i have to get it from New Invention to my nans and as a back up for getting to school, should the 25 not turn up (which it doesn't do too often, thankfully)
The 25's reliability is alright, but it never shows up on time, normally 1/2 mins early or late
I agree that too much focus is placed on the 59, as it does not warrant a 4 minute frequency and could be reduced in frequency
slightly, to about every 7 mins, same as the 529, and the freed up buses could be used elsewhere, and i can think of two people i know who will disagree till they're blue in the face that i'm wrong
Quote from: ARJ2901 on December 16, 2014, 09:39:45 PM
Quote from: 4006 on December 16, 2014, 08:58:58 PM
The extra 10mins to be added on after the changes on the afternoon 82's will help but will it be enough?
The major problem with the 82 and routes like it they get ignored and are left 'to run' it seams everybody is too busy concentrating on high frequency services like the 59, 1 and 126. Surely priority should be for less frequent services like the 81,82,25,27,28? for example. I feel especially sorry for passengers who use the 27 if a bus goes missing they have to wait an hour. These wingers who have to wait 15mins for a 1 or 59...Stop complaining!!! :P :P :P
The 28's fairly reliable, as i have to get it from New Invention to my nans and as a back up for getting to school, should the 25 not turn up (which it doesn't do too often, thankfully)
The 25's reliability is alright, but it never shows up on time, normally 1/2 mins early or late
I agree that too much focus is placed on the 59, as it does not warrant a 4 minute frequency and could be reduced in frequency slightly, to about every 7 mins, same as the 529, and the freed up buses could be used elsewhere, and i can think of two people i know who will disagree till they're blue in the face that i'm wrong
You're wrong on this one. It would be ridiculous to consider reducing the frequency on the 59 at peaks or during the day. Full up with students at peaks and by old fogies during the day.
The 59 is not every 4 mins at any part of the day! Every 5 in the peak and Every 6 off peak.Tbh, there are always buses running left right and centre and gets nowhere near the attention that the inspectors give to the 1 and 126's. If anything the 59 needs an extra bus at peak times (On top of the extra one that comes out in the afternoom) You obviously don't monitor the 59 closely.....
As mentioned, Even in the day the Tridents get busy.
Can i ask what is meant by routes 'getting more attention'?
Quote from: Nathan on December 16, 2014, 09:50:45 PM
The 59 is not every 4 mins! Tbh, there are always buses running left right and centre and gets nowhere near the attention that the inspectors give to the 1 and 126's. If anything, the 59 needs an extra bus at peak times! You obviously don't monitor the 59 closely.....
Can i ask what is meant by routes 'getting more attention'?
The 1 got brand new Hybrids, the 126 is probably getting new E400MMC's next year, and i bet you it won't be too long before the 59 gets some form of upgrade, even if it is only a slight one from some form of cascaded buses in the coming years
Isnt Ashmore Park where Twm's former public relations supremo & local councilior Phil Bateman lives?
I wouldnt like to put 2 & 2 together but.....
I would have thought inspectors should treat each route fairly do they get the same amount of attention
Quote from: ARJ2901 on December 16, 2014, 09:57:54 PM
Quote from: Nathan on December 16, 2014, 09:50:45 PM
The 59 is not every 4 mins! Tbh, there are always buses running left right and centre and gets nowhere near the attention that the inspectors give to the 1 and 126's. If anything, the 59 needs an extra bus at peak times! You obviously don't monitor the 59 closely.....
Can i ask what is meant by routes 'getting more attention'?
The 1 got brand new Hybrids, the 126 is probably getting new E400MMC's next year, and i bet you it won't be too long before the 59 gets some form of upgrade, even if it is only a slight one from some form of cascaded buses in the coming years
Well less frequent services such as the 28, 27/A and 81 are operating with the newest buses in garage so those services are getting attention so aren't gettimg neglected when it comes to vehicles
Quote from: Westy on December 16, 2014, 09:59:39 PM
Isnt Ashmore Park where Twm's former public relations supremo & local councilior Phil Bateman lives?
I wouldnt like to put 2 & 2 together but.....
Hence why the old 559/60 corridor became a 'premier' status corridor back in 2001
Quote from: Nathan on December 16, 2014, 10:04:00 PM
Well less frequent services such as the 28, 27/A and 81 are operating with the newest buses in garage so those services are getting attention.
And the b7 b6 merc spectra and tridents operate the 59 at some point
I agree with Nathan, i have been in Wolverhampton Bus Station during the day watching and have been on the 59 numerous times. The buses always have healthy loadings, so why reduct the frequency when they obviously make money or NE would have cut the frequency anyway.
Inspectors "should" give all services the same priority, except on routes where the service frequency is quite low. if a journey is cancelled when the frequency is only every hour, it has a greater effect on passengers than cancelling a 59 or 1 or 126.
Alright, alright, i concede, it's futile arguing with everyone, so i take back my opinion forthwith, you all win, rest of the forum-1, me-0
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 16, 2014, 10:08:19 PM
I agree with Nathan, i have been in Wolverhampton Bus Station during the day watching and have been on the 59 numerous times. The buses always have healthy loadings, so why reduct the frequency when they obviously make money or NE would have cut the frequency anyway.
Inspectors "should" give all services the same priority, except on routes where the service frequency is quite low. if a journey is cancelled when the frequency is only every hour, it has a greater effect on passengers than cancelling a 59 or 1 or 126.
And buses are regulary taken off the 59 (being the most frequent route at WN) to replace a breakdown (or whatever circumstance for a bus being taken off) on a less frequent service.
Quote from: ARJ2901 on December 16, 2014, 10:10:27 PM
Alright, alright, i concede, it's futile arguing with everyone, so i take back my opinion forthwith, you all win, rest of the forum-1, me-0
Don't worry, nobody is arguing :) Its just provoked a discussion which is what the forum is for
Does anybody know what has happened to 4002 and 4018? Both haven't been seen for a long time?
A driver did tell me that he saw 4002 in garage but he failed to specify whether it was having repairs or whether it was parked up at the back of the yard?
Quote from: Nathan on December 16, 2014, 10:41:54 PM
Can i ask why my last message was deleted? ::)
Lets start again, Does anybody know what has happened to 4002 and 4018? Both haven't been seen for a long time?
A driver did tell me that he saw 4002 in garage but he failed to specify whether it was having repairs or whether it was parked up at the back of the yard.
and mine?
Quote from: 4006 on December 16, 2014, 08:58:58 PM
The extra 10mins to be added on after the changes on the afternoon 82's will help but will it be enough?
The major problem with the 82 and routes like it they get ignored and are left 'to run' it seams everybody is too busy concentrating on high frequency services like the 59, 1 and 126. Surely priority should be for less frequent services like the 81,82,25,27,28? for example. I feel especially sorry for passengers who use the 27 if a bus goes missing they have to wait an hour. These wingers who have to wait 15mins for a 1 or 59...Stop complaining!!! :P :P :P
The last sentence sums up the entire discussion. Like I said earlier, we live in a major urban conurbation with some of the best public transport in the country, not the desert or mountains plus the people who are moaning live on frequent services or have close proximity to them at least and that really gets me irritated, because it seems as a society people are increasingly impatient, lazy, pedantic, ungrateful and its always the bus drivers fault (that last one isn't aimed at bus enthusiasts). In a nutshell, if it doesn't turn up, wait and dont moan or make alternative travel arrangements and plan for events such as thus. That's all...
Nathan I think I saw 4018 one day last week
Quote from: Ashley on December 16, 2014, 11:18:27 PM
Quote from: 4006 on December 16, 2014, 08:58:58 PM
The extra 10mins to be added on after the changes on the afternoon 82's will help but will it be enough?
The major problem with the 82 and routes like it they get ignored and are left 'to run' it seams everybody is too busy concentrating on high frequency services like the 59, 1 and 126. Surely priority should be for less frequent services like the 81,82,25,27,28? for example. I feel especially sorry for passengers who use the 27 if a bus goes missing they have to wait an hour. These wingers who have to wait 15mins for a 1 or 59...Stop complaining!!! :P :P :P
The last sentence sums up the entire discussion. Like I said earlier, we live in a major urban conurbation with some of the best public transport in the country, not the desert or mountains plus the people who are moaning live on frequent services or have close proximity to them at least and that really gets me irritated, because it seems as a society people are increasingly impatient, lazy, pedantic, ungrateful and its always the bus drivers fault (that last one isn't aimed at bus enthusiasts). In a nutshell, if it doesn't turn up, wait and dont moan or make alternative travel arrangements and plan for events such as thus. That's all...
Nathan I think I saw 4018 one day last week
4018 & 4019 haven't moved for some time
I was told 4019 had been withdrawn so has the same happened to 4018?
Quote from: Nathan on December 16, 2014, 10:41:54 PM
Does anybody know what has happened to 4002 and 4018? Both haven't been seen for a long time?
A driver did tell me that he saw 4002 in garage but he failed to specify whether it was having repairs or whether it was parked up at the back of the yard?
4018 has been parked up 4 some time withdrawn due 2 corrosion I'm told
Tree fallen on fleet No 4606,126 service at Hagley Rd
Quote from: 979 on December 18, 2014, 12:48:48 PM
Tree fallen on fleet No 4606,126 service at Hagley Rd
http://www.itv.com/news/central/update/2014-12-18/hagley-road-closed-after-falling-tree-hits-bus/
Quote from: 4006 on December 18, 2014, 07:28:33 AM
Quote from: Nathan on December 16, 2014, 10:41:54 PM
Does anybody know what has happened to 4002 and 4018? Both haven't been seen for a long time?
A driver did tell me that he saw 4002 in garage but he failed to specify whether it was having repairs or whether it was parked up at the back of the yard?
4018 has been parked up 4 some time withdrawn due 2 corrosion I'm told
4019 also withdrawn though I thought that this was common knowledge? I hear corrosion is a factor with the Spectra's now along with availability of spare parts I mean these things are getting on for 20 years old now. It would be a pity if one wasn't preserved however
4545 has finally had its 'The Tipton' mega rear removed and replaced with a new one for Wolverhampton College
Quote from: 4006 on December 18, 2014, 05:18:27 PM
Quote from: 4006 on December 18, 2014, 07:28:33 AM
Quote from: Nathan on December 16, 2014, 10:41:54 PM
Does anybody know what has happened to 4002 and 4018? Both haven't been seen for a long time?
A driver did tell me that he saw 4002 in garage but he failed to specify whether it was having repairs or whether it was parked up at the back of the yard?
4018 has been parked up 4 some time withdrawn due 2 corrosion I'm told
4019 also withdrawn though I thought that this was common knowledge? I hear corrosion is a factor with the Spectra's now along with availability of spare parts I mean these things are getting on for 20 years old now. It would be a pity if one wasn't preserved however
4019 was driven into the repair bays at Wolverhampton on Wednesday where it still remains
4018 is not withdrawn yet either
Was there a hybrid on the 79 today as one went northbound on the BCR past my work just after 11 today?
Dont the West Bromwich corridor use the BCR when running out of service?
4021 not been spotted out for a while either
4535 in Wolverhampton bus station look Christmases with tinsel on the wind mirror with staff dressed up like elf and Santas
4022-82 and a b7
Quote from: jack4325 on December 20, 2014, 10:09:16 AM
4535 in Wolverhampton bus station look Christmases with tinsel on the wind mirror with staff dressed up like elf and Santas
Doing a santas sleigh charity day organised by Dave Taylor. In support of WM air ambulance.
Can I ask why the NEW WN E200's doors squeak like there's no tomorrow when opening yet from what I remember PNs don't/hardly squeak at all.
Just to Add, The next WN open day is Sunday July 26 2015, it was confirmed yesterday.
Quote from: mranon on December 19, 2014, 11:28:44 PM
4021 not been spotted out for a while either
4021 parked on the bottom patch where 4019 was untill as Tony said it was moved to the garage
Quote from: NXDom on December 20, 2014, 11:41:43 PM
Can I ask why the NEW WN E200's doors squeak like there's no tomorrow when opening yet from what I remember PNs don't/hardly squeak at all.
Just to Add, The next WN open day is Sunday July 26 2015, it was confirmed yesterday.
Do you need tickets to go there or can you walk in and what time is it thanks
Quote from: Tara4352 on December 21, 2014, 04:34:50 PM
Quote from: NXDom on December 20, 2014, 11:41:43 PM
Can I ask why the NEW WN E200's doors squeak like there's no tomorrow when opening yet from what I remember PNs don't/hardly squeak at all.
Just to Add, The next WN open day is Sunday July 26 2015, it was confirmed yesterday.
Do you need tickets to go there or can you walk in and what time is it thanks
Would say it is a little early to be asking that Tara, am sure more details will become available nearer the day.
I was in the West Midlands yesterday and spent a couple of hours at Wolverhampton Bus Station before moving on to Walsall ( 529 ) and West Bromwich ( 4H ) before heading back on a 79 to Wolverhampton and train to Crewe.
While at Wolverhampton I saw 13 of the E200s
27 842 843 846 850
28 841 849 851
54 853 854
81 840 844 845 847
Presumably 848 or 852 was the fifth bus on the 81. can anyone tell me which was this fifth bus and confirm that the other was depot bound all day.
Many thanks
Quote from: cheshire exile on December 21, 2014, 05:34:36 PM
I was in the West Midlands yesterday and spent a couple of hours at Wolverhampton Bus Station before moving on to Walsall ( 529 ) and West Bromwich ( 4H ) before heading back on a 79 to Wolverhampton and train to Crewe.
While at Wolverhampton I saw 13 of the E200s
27 842 843 846 850
28 841 849 851
54 853 854
81 840 844 845 847
Presumably 848 or 852 was the fifth bus on the 81. can anyone tell me which was this fifth bus and confirm that the other was depot bound all day.
Many thanks
Tony would be the best one to answer that or Nathan as he sometimes knows what's allocated
Did I imagine it, or did I see an E200, 853 or 854, named 'Amy'?
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on December 21, 2014, 07:32:45 PM
Did I imagine it, or did I see an E200, 853 or 854, named 'Amy'?
You maybe getting confused with 854 which is 'Anya'
In other news, an unbranded E400H (5404 i think) has just gone down Wolverhampton Ring Rd past bus station towards Bilston St island with an Engineer driving. I'm hazarding a guess thats its going to replace something on the 1 but there is always a chance that it could be going to replace something on another route?
What are the chances of spectra on 126 tommorow? Please let me know if one is seen
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 22, 2014, 09:02:01 PM
What are the chances of spectra on 126 tommorow? Please let me know if one is seen
Chances of a Spectra on the 126 on any day are highly unlikely.
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on December 22, 2014, 09:03:54 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 22, 2014, 09:02:01 PM
What are the chances of spectra on 126 tommorow? Please let me know if one is seen
Chances of a Spectra on the 126 on any day are highly unlikely.
Should be 0% really, especially with the schools being off so extra buses should be available.
Sorry,but does anybody have a email adress for the national express operation director in Wolverhampton or have I got to speak to customer a care as I would like to visit Wolverhampton garage but had to got to the hospital on the date it was organised and put a written letter in post about 5 months ago arranging it but it was supposed to be rearranged and it hasn't so not sure what to do as I. Wanted to visit before the opening day next year
Tara
Quote from: Tara4352 on December 22, 2014, 09:41:02 PM
Sorry,but does anybody have a email adress for the national express operation director in Wolverhampton or have I got to speak to customer a care as I would like to visit Wolverhampton garage but had to got to the hospital on the date it was organised and put a written letter in post about 5 months ago arranging it but it was supposed to be rearranged and it hasn't so not sure what to do as I. Wanted to visit before the opening day next year
Tara
Contact the same person who authorised the original visit. Do you know the strange thing, a member who got banned from this forum also missed a visit to Wolverhampton garage because they were ill about five months ago, perhaps I ought to ask WN who it was that missed a visit five months ago, we might then know the real identity of Tara! Busted.com
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 22, 2014, 09:06:55 PM
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on December 22, 2014, 09:03:54 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 22, 2014, 09:02:01 PM
What are the chances of spectra on 126 tommorow? Please let me know if one is seen
Chances of a Spectra on the 126 on any day are highly unlikely.
Should be 0% really, especially with the schools being off so extra buses should be available.
Why not just come to Wolverhampton?
8) Great work Sherlony and Watson from the very first post I had my suspicions!
If there was a visit in the first place....
Quote from: Tony on December 22, 2014, 09:46:08 PM
Quote from: Tara4352 on December 22, 2014, 09:41:02 PM
Sorry,but does anybody have a email adress for the national express operation director in Wolverhampton or have I got to speak to customer a care as I would like to visit Wolverhampton garage but had to got to the hospital on the date it was organised and put a written letter in post about 5 months ago arranging it but it was supposed to be rearranged and it hasn't so not sure what to do as I. Wanted to visit before the opening day next year
Tara
Contact the same person who authorised the original visit. Do you know the strange thing, a member who got banned from this forum also missed a visit to Wolverhampton garage because they were ill about five months ago, perhaps I ought to ask WN who it was that missed a visit five months ago, we might then know the real identity of Tara! Busted.com
I noticed that Santa was driving a B7RLE on the 11 on Monday afternoon. :D
I had a few rides yesterday and was pleased to get 4004 on the 82 from Dudley to Bilston, then later 4011 on the 529 from Willenhall to Walsall. Do the Spectras work these routes much?
Quote from: Stevo on December 24, 2014, 10:01:53 AM
I had a few rides yesterday and was pleased to get 4004 on the 82 from Dudley to Bilston, then later 4011 on the 529 from Willenhall to Walsall. Do the Spectras work these routes much?
There are 10 Spectras out in service today which is more than most normal weekdays. Six of them on the 82. They only normally get on the 529 as replacements
Quote from: Tony on December 24, 2014, 10:08:23 AM
Quote from: Stevo on December 24, 2014, 10:01:53 AM
I had a few rides yesterday and was pleased to get 4004 on the 82 from Dudley to Bilston, then later 4011 on the 529 from Willenhall to Walsall. Do the Spectras work these routes much?
There are 10 Spectras out in service today which is more than most normal weekdays. Six of them on the 82. They only normally get on the 529 as replacements
What other services are they on?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 24, 2014, 10:18:26 AM
Quote from: Tony on December 24, 2014, 10:08:23 AM
Quote from: Stevo on December 24, 2014, 10:01:53 AM
I had a few rides yesterday and was pleased to get 4004 on the 82 from Dudley to Bilston, then later 4011 on the 529 from Willenhall to Walsall. Do the Spectras work these routes much?
There are 10 Spectras out in service today which is more than most normal weekdays. Six of them on the 82. They only normally get on the 529 as replacements
What other services are they on?
The 11 & 25
Quote from: Tony on December 24, 2014, 10:08:23 AM
Quote from: Stevo on December 24, 2014, 10:01:53 AM
I had a few rides yesterday and was pleased to get 4004 on the 82 from Dudley to Bilston, then later 4011 on the 529 from Willenhall to Walsall. Do the Spectras work these routes much?
There are 10 Spectras out in service today which is more than most normal weekdays. Six of them on the 82. They only normally get on the 529 as replacements
Which ones are out Tony?
Quote from: Tony on December 24, 2014, 10:08:23 AM
Quote from: Stevo on December 24, 2014, 10:01:53 AM
I had a few rides yesterday and was pleased to get 4004 on the 82 from Dudley to Bilston, then later 4011 on the 529 from Willenhall to Walsall. Do the Spectras work these routes much?
There are 10 Spectras out in service today which is more than most normal weekdays. Six of them on the 82. They only normally get on the 529 as replacements
Do more get used on Saturdays than in the week? If so then Saturday allocations apply today so mthats why more could be out than usual
What is the 54's route around bilbrook?
Quote from: NXDom on December 24, 2014, 07:43:23 PM
What is the 54's route around bilbrook?
it just a loop of bilbrook
4578 was on the 3 today, think it last came to Castlecroft at around 1800. A ZF Trident worked the 2251 ex Castlecroft
Quote from: Ashley on December 24, 2014, 11:01:36 PM
4578 was on the 3 today, think it last came to Castlecroft at around 1800. A ZF Trident worked the 2251 ex Castlecroft
4578 was booked on the 59 this morning. (Allocated last night so could have been changed around at last moment this morning) It appeared 4582 was sent out in its place
Quote from: Nathan on December 24, 2014, 11:05:09 PM
Quote from: Ashley on December 24, 2014, 11:01:36 PM
4578 was on the 3 today, think it last came to Castlecroft at around 1800. A ZF Trident worked the 2251 ex Castlecroft
4578 was booked on the 59 this morning. It appeared 4582 was sent out in its place
4578 appeared down here for the 0917 departure, wouldn't have minded a B6 as an Xmas special but anyway
Yardley wood has 3225 does wolverhampton garage have any old buses
Depends on if you call the B6s old!!
Quote from: the trainbasher on December 28, 2014, 04:25:42 PM
Depends on if you call the B6s old!!
508 is the oldest B6 in Wolverhampton fleet of buses
Quote from: jack4325 on December 28, 2014, 04:31:01 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on December 28, 2014, 04:25:42 PM
Depends on if you call the B6s old!!
508 is the oldest B6 in Wolverhampton fleet of buses
Oldest NXWM bus still in public service
4008 WN 82
4015 WN 82
Quote from: Tara4352 on December 29, 2014, 04:48:48 PM
4008 WN 82
4015 WN 82
Spectras are normally allocated to the WN82, have been since late October
Does another know the actual reason for why WN are removing the tv screens from the top deck of the tridents. I think its because they are effectively useless so there is no point in having them.
4004 WN 82
4008 WN 82 was on there yesterday and today
A B7 on the 27
A B7 on the 82
I have also noticed that WN Tridents LOOK very grubby on the outside as well as the PN ones !
Quote from: Tara4352 on December 30, 2014, 05:26:53 PM
4004 WN 82
4008 WN 82 was on there yesterday and today
A B7 on the 27
A B7 on the 82
I have also noticed that WN Tridents LOOK very grubby on the outside as well as the PN ones !
Don't forget there is a lot of grit on the road, plus with the below zero temperatures, they may well not be using the bus wash?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 30, 2014, 05:40:18 PM
Quote from: Tara4352 on December 30, 2014, 05:26:53 PM
4004 WN 82
4008 WN 82 was on there yesterday and today
A B7 on the 27
A B7 on the 82
I have also noticed that WN Tridents LOOK very grubby on the outside as well as the PN ones !
Don't forget there is a lot of grit on the road, plus with the below zero temperatures, they may well not be using the bus wash?
Didn't think of that but they are looking very very bad in need of a good wash
In response to a noteworthy working, what time and where was 508 seen on WN3?
Two more I forgot to note down is
2005 on the 82
843 on the 27
Quote from: Tara4352 on December 30, 2014, 06:37:33 PM
Two more I forgot to note down is
2005 on the 82
843 on the 27
There all usual now that the Mercs have gone
hybrid on no.2 seen on cannock rd approx 13.45pm didnt catch fleet no.
Quote from: mranon on December 30, 2014, 07:52:51 PM
hybrid on no.2 seen on cannock rd approx 13.45pm didnt catch fleet no.
5401 :)
Over the Christmas period, with the extra earlier trips on the 1 and 10, it has meant a bus (board number 10/10) does the first 1 from W'ton-Dudley then from Dudley to Tettenhall before running private to Perton to take up the 10 to Wolverhampton then running private back to garage.
So the first 1 of the day has been a B7RLE instead of a Hybrid
2019 WN 82
2010 WN 27
Can anyone direct me to a photo of an unbranded hybrid on the 126, i'm pretty sure i've seen one on flickr.
B5 by nt.1994:
https://flic.kr/p/g9fJiY
Or were you looking for an E400?
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on December 31, 2014, 04:36:29 PM
B5 by nt.1994:
https://flic.kr/p/g9fJiY
Or were you looking for an E400?
I've got 5510 if of any use
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/9679264553/
From the unusual workings thread:
Quote from: Nathan on December 31, 2014, 01:00:33 PM
Quote from: NXDom on December 31, 2014, 10:50:57 AM
Currently aboard 5402 on the 126 dep Dudley 10:50 ish.
5401 is on there too. Departed Wolverhampton Bus Station at 13:10.
Quote from: Nathan on December 31, 2014, 05:06:39 PM
5409 on WN28! Departed Wolverhampton Bus Station at 16:30
Is the 1 still fully hybrid today?
Yes NXWM Spectra the 1 was fully hybrid. Less buses are needed on Saturday service.
5409 came off the 1 as a swap i believe
And the 59 had no hybrids today (Usually 3 unbranded E400H's on Saturday) hence why two hybrids were on the 126.
5405 was on Metro Replacement. This was probably in for VI today coming out in the afternoon
On the 15.32 126 departure from wolves went the 256 way out of town then turned left onto the ring road and then right onto normal line of route. Was that a diversion or is its new route out of wolves?
Quote from: Chris2301 on January 04, 2015, 03:42:15 PM
On the 15.32 126 departure from wolves went the 256 way out of town then turned left onto the ring road and then right onto normal line of route. Was that a diversion or is its new route out of wolves?
I had a driver do that think he was on 256 but the driver went around market then back up Cleveland st
The 82 has had alot of drivers checking their running board today with the timetable changes, but the reliability has improved from what I have seen and rode.
Re - noteworthy working - 4556 - WN4
Did the bus leave town between 1945 and 1950, just curious as to whether it was a late board but I don't think it is
Quote from: Ashley on January 05, 2015, 08:08:49 PM
Re - noteworthy working - 4556 - WN4
Did the bus leave town between 1945 and 1950, just curious as to whether it was a late board but I don't think it is
Looking at the timings it appears to be the one that finishes in Pendeford at 20:09 before running private back to garage (RB 4/01)
In reference to a comment in the Noteworthy Workings Thread, Any ideas as to why 2064 was near Cannock Bus Station today?
The 4556 working was around 1952 ish as I was on 853 on the 54 arriving into city.
4012 is currently 'back home' in BC garage
Quote from: Tony on January 07, 2015, 07:13:46 PM
4012 is currently 'back home' in BC garage
Is there a reason to this?
Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on January 07, 2015, 08:36:46 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 07, 2015, 07:13:46 PM
4012 is currently 'back home' in BC garage
Is there a reason to this?
Of course there is a reason, I've no idea what it is, but buses aren't moved around for fun
4555 - WN1 - passed it on Tettenhall Road at the Halfway House junction at 1110 heading for Dudley
Quote from: Nathan on January 09, 2015, 12:46:14 PM
Quote from: Ashley on January 09, 2015, 11:14:56 AM
4555 - WN1 - passed it on Tettenhall Road at the Halfway House junction at 1110 heading for Dudley
Probably due to the fact there is an extra hybrid on the 59 (2 instead the usual one)
it got nothing to do with that it where ever the buses are parked
I am aware of that Jack (It was me who told you about that!) ::)
As a there were two hybrids on the 59 instead of one, it means when allocating a bus to that board on the 1 (Either from the start of board or as a swap), a hybrid (which would be in garage) wasn't available so they had to send a Trident out instead.
Just seen 4586 in Wolverhampton Bus Station. Has this been off the road? Reason i ask is because i hadn't seen it for a while.
The front of 4572 thinks it's on the 257 to Dudley with the side and rear thinking it's on the 256 to Stourbridge
Quote from: Nathan on January 15, 2015, 09:41:35 PM
Here is 4596 back from repaint on the 59 tonight:
https://flickr.com/#/photos/trident_4609/16262845606/
Great Pic Nath :)
Quote from: Rob2832 on January 15, 2015, 09:43:08 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 15, 2015, 09:41:35 PM
Here is 4596 back from repaint on the 59 tonight:
https://flickr.com/#/photos/trident_4609/16262845606/
Great Pic Nath :)
Can't see the pic??
Does this work?
So lets try again.....
Here is recently repainted 4596 on the 59 tonight.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/trident_4609/16262845606/
I've noticed Tony's last photo of it on the main site is from when it was brand new!
Quote from: Nathan on January 15, 2015, 10:08:19 PM
Does this work?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/trident_4609/16262845606/
Yes it does Nathan :) :) :)
4002 is now back out on 59/07, hasn't been out since October!
Quote from: ARJ2901 on January 16, 2015, 04:58:45 PM
4002 is now back out on 59/07, hasn't been out since October!
Replaced 4323 which has been put back out on that RB. So I'm not sure if 4002 just covered half a trip as it appeared to work a 59E to Ashmore Park and wasn't seen afterwards
2014 was the change bus on 3/07 as 2002 went onto 59's
Have just noticed Centro have but a new Bus stop in Chapel ash near the new Sainsburys, always thought there should be a Bus stop going out off City, as there is one coming in. But it looks quite a dangerous spot there with traffic coming of the ring road, then getting stuck behind a bus & not being able to pull out into the other lane because of traffic in the other lane
Quote from: woody38 on January 18, 2015, 04:57:12 PM
Have just noticed Centro have but a new Bus stop in Chapel ash near the new Sainsburys, always thought there should be a Bus stop going out off City, as there is one coming in. But it looks quite a dangerous spot there with traffic coming of the ring road, then getting stuck behind a bus & not being able to pull out into the other lane because of traffic in the other lane
Personally I think it shouldn't be in the place they've put it, fast bend, a crash waiting to happen
Can anyone remember which of the excels were decent?
Quote from: NXDom on January 19, 2015, 06:26:10 PM
Can anyone remember which of the excels were decent?
I remember the small ones the most. In general, the 4xx ones that came straight here from London were better than the ones that came via Dundee (72xx). 401 was one that stuck out for me.
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on January 19, 2015, 06:33:58 PM
Quote from: NXDom on January 19, 2015, 06:26:10 PM
Can anyone remember which of the excels were decent?
I remember the small ones the most. In general, the 4xx ones that came straight here from London were better than the ones that came via Dundee (72xx). 401 was one that stuck out for me.
Hates the 4xx's and 72xx's at the time but miss them now. My personal favourites were 684 686 691 693 696 697 698 701 702 708 711 712 713 714 715 717 718, happy days
I've been told two B6's have left for PVS today.
Quote from: 4006 on December 18, 2014, 05:18:27 PM
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Quote from: Nathan on December 16, 2014, 10:41:54 PM
Does anybody know what has happened to 4002 and 4018? Both haven't been seen for a long time?
A driver did tell me that he saw 4002 in garage but he failed to specify whether it was having repairs or whether it was parked up at the back of the yard?
4018 has been parked up 4 some time withdrawn due 2 corrosion I'm told
4019 also withdrawn though I thought that this was common knowledge? I hear corrosion is a factor with the Spectra's now along with availability of spare parts I mean these things are getting on for 20 years old now. It would be a pity if one wasn't preserved however
So, 4019, which it was common Knowledge that is was withdrawn must be an optical illusion out on the 1 today!
is 4019 about today
Quote from: Nathan on January 22, 2015, 09:26:04 PM
I must say that this branding does look pretty smart. A big step up from the unrefurbished Tridents that graced the route before these came over from PB
Nathan just out of interest how many tridents at WN are un refurbished seat wise
Quote from: Tara4352 on January 22, 2015, 09:29:16 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 22, 2015, 09:26:04 PM
I must say that this branding does look pretty smart. A big step up from the unrefurbished Tridents that graced the route before these came over from PB
Nathan just out of interest how many tridents at WN are un refurbished seat wise
If you mean original TWM Twin peaks spec then:
4535
4546
4550
4551
4552
4578
These are the early repaints that were not refurbed
The Tridents that were recently repainted but retained original moquette (The ones sent late last year)
4588
4592
4594
4596
4324 and 4549 are both away at present for repaint/refurbishment.
where has 4549 gone i aint seen that for ages
Quote from: jack4325 on January 23, 2015, 09:32:31 AM
where has 4549 gone i aint seen that for ages
See my reply on the previous page. It has gone for repaint/retrim.
Also mentioned by Tony in the Repaints thread (Reply 38):
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=3492.30
4002 & 4020 have been put on the 59, both appear to be swapped
Quote from: ARJ2901 on January 23, 2015, 03:56:22 PM
4002 & 4020 have been put on the 59, both appear to be swapped
4002 is the afternoon peak time extra board, 4020 is a late night board replacing 4577 this afternoon. This will most likely be swapped later though.
4019 on WN25
2021 on 126E at Birchley Island heading for Broad Street at 9:40
Just seen 4541 on 126 with one red and one white door!
Quote from: JoNi on January 27, 2015, 12:01:31 PM
Just seen 4541 on 126 with one red and one white door!
It has been like that for a long time. It also appeared at the time that 4561 (Whilst still in TWM livery) gained a red door. It appeared that the doors between the two vehicles had been swapped
https://www.flickr.com/photos/trident_4609/8711036299/
Quote from: Nathan on January 27, 2015, 12:06:02 PM
Quote from: JoNi on January 27, 2015, 12:01:31 PM
Just seen 4541 on 126 with one red and one white door!
It has been like that for a long time. It also appeared at the time that 4561 (Whilst still in TWM livery) gained a red door. It appeared that the doors between the two vehicles had been swapped
https://www.flickr.com/photos/trident_4609/8711036299/
WN has always been good at providing easy to spot paintjobs, most of the Excels, 1381 and 4592 along with the above are the first I can think of
Quote from: Ashley on January 27, 2015, 01:07:13 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 27, 2015, 12:06:02 PM
Quote from: JoNi on January 27, 2015, 12:01:31 PM
Just seen 4541 on 126 with one red and one white door!
It has been like that for a long time. It also appeared at the time that 4561 (Whilst still in TWM livery) gained a red door. It appeared that the doors between the two vehicles had been swapped
https://www.flickr.com/photos/trident_4609/8711036299/
WN has always been good at providing easy to spot paintjobs, most of the Excels, 1381 and 4592 along with the above are the first I can think of
Didn't one have Coventry blue doors?
Quote from: NXDom on January 27, 2015, 04:46:23 PM
Quote from: Ashley on January 27, 2015, 01:07:13 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 27, 2015, 12:06:02 PM
Quote from: JoNi on January 27, 2015, 12:01:31 PM
Just seen 4541 on 126 with one red and one white door!
It has been like that for a long time. It also appeared at the time that 4561 (Whilst still in TWM livery) gained a red door. It appeared that the doors between the two vehicles had been swapped
https://www.flickr.com/photos/trident_4609/8711036299/
WN has always been good at providing easy to spot paintjobs, most of the Excels, 1381 and 4592 along with the above are the first I can think of
Didn't one have Coventry blue doors?
One of what?
Quote from: Ashley on January 27, 2015, 06:20:53 PM
Quote from: NXDom on January 27, 2015, 04:46:23 PM
Quote from: Ashley on January 27, 2015, 01:07:13 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 27, 2015, 12:06:02 PM
Quote from: JoNi on January 27, 2015, 12:01:31 PM
Just seen 4541 on 126 with one red and one white door!
It has been like that for a long time. It also appeared at the time that 4561 (Whilst still in TWM livery) gained a red door. It appeared that the doors between the two vehicles had been swapped
https://www.flickr.com/photos/trident_4609/8711036299/
WN has always been good at providing easy to spot paintjobs, most of the Excels, 1381 and 4592 along with the above are the first I can think of
Didn't one have Coventry blue doors?
One of what?
Trident.
@NXDom you're probably thinking of 4566 when it was in TWM livery.
Quote from: Nathan on January 27, 2015, 06:33:58 PM
@NXDom you're probably thinking of 4566 when it was in TWM livery.
4566, 4313 and 4327 when they were in proper livery
Nice to see they've finally cleaned 845
Quote from: Tony on January 21, 2015, 12:31:30 PM
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Quote from: Nathan on December 16, 2014, 10:41:54 PM
Does anybody know what has happened to 4002 and 4018? Both haven't been seen for a long time?
A driver did tell me that he saw 4002 in garage but he failed to specify whether it was having repairs or whether it was parked up at the back of the yard?
4018 has been parked up 4 some time withdrawn due 2 corrosion I'm told
4019 also withdrawn though I thought that this was common knowledge? I hear corrosion is a factor with the Spectra's now along with availability of spare parts I mean these things are getting on for 20 years old now. It would be a pity if one wasn't preserved however
So, 4019, which it was common Knowledge that is was withdrawn must be an optical illusion out on the 1 today!
So maybe it wasn't withdrawn, simply hiding in the 'strategic' reserve fleet :D :D :D
4021 is another Spectra which had time off the road but is now back in traffic.
Quote from: Nathan on January 29, 2015, 09:14:37 PM
4021 is another Spectra which had time off the road but is now back in traffic.
More's the pity :) :)
Quote from: 4006 on January 29, 2015, 09:33:51 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 29, 2015, 09:14:37 PM
4021 is another Spectra which had time off the road but is now back in traffic.
More's the pity :) :)
Hopefully they will be withdrawn soon! Probably get more cast off Tridents ::) I heard the 126 is having Platinum vehicles in the summer. Any truth in that?
Quote from: Nathan on January 29, 2015, 09:41:49 PM
Quote from: 4006 on January 29, 2015, 09:33:51 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 29, 2015, 09:14:37 PM
4021 is another Spectra which had time off the road but is now back in traffic.
More's the pity :) :)
Hopefully they will be withdrawn soon! Probably get more cast off Tridents ::) I heard the 126 is having Platinum vehicles in the summer. Any truth in that?
Seems very unlikely, I think it has been fairly well established on this forum and what has been announced elsewhere, that the Platinum vehicles are going to BC and WA in 2015, none for any WN routes.
Quote from: D10 on January 29, 2015, 09:57:36 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 29, 2015, 09:41:49 PM
Quote from: 4006 on January 29, 2015, 09:33:51 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 29, 2015, 09:14:37 PM
4021 is another Spectra which had time off the road but is now back in traffic.
More's the pity :) :)
Hopefully they will be withdrawn soon! Probably get more cast off Tridents ::) I heard the 126 is having Platinum vehicles in the summer. Any truth in that?
Seems very unlikely, I think it has been fairly well established on this forum and what has been announced elsewhere, that the Platinum vehicles are going to BC and WA in 2015, none for any WN routes.
It was mentioned at the 100th anniversary of buses celebrations in Centenary Square last year that the X51 and 900/57 were the planned routes. However, surely that does not take up 58 platinum buses, which has been quoted in press releases?
Quote from: Nathan on January 29, 2015, 10:07:05 PM
Quote from: D10 on January 29, 2015, 09:57:36 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 29, 2015, 09:41:49 PM
Quote from: 4006 on January 29, 2015, 09:33:51 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 29, 2015, 09:14:37 PM
4021 is another Spectra which had time off the road but is now back in traffic.
More's the pity :) :)
Hopefully they will be withdrawn soon! Probably get more cast off Tridents ::) I heard the 126 is having Platinum vehicles in the summer. Any truth in that?
Seems very unlikely, I think it has been fairly well established on this forum and what has been announced elsewhere, that the Platinum vehicles are going to BC and WA in 2015, none for any WN routes.
It was mentioned at the 100th anniversary of buses celebrations in Centenary Square last year that the X51 and 900/57 were the planned routes. However, surely that does not take up 58 platinum buses, which has been quoted in press releases?
As the X51 interworks with the 997 now that will have to be included too. I wouldn't be surprised to see the 934-936 upgraded as well. The 126 couldn't really be included in it's current form, unless it was upgraded to Limited Stop, the all stops current route doesn't fit in with the Platinum brand.
126 will probably get the normal e400 mmc. Whats the PVR for it?
Quote from: Chris2301 on January 29, 2015, 10:49:44 PM
126 will probably get the normal e400 mmc. Whats the PVR for it?
I think the current PVR is 20.
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Quote from: Chris2301 on January 29, 2015, 10:49:44 PM
126 will probably get the normal e400 mmc. Whats the PVR for it?
I think the current PVR is 20.
I believe that is correct. 126/21 and 126/22 come out of garage in the afternoon.
Saturday is 18 or 19 vehicles I think
And on Sundays there are 9 buses.
1695 if anyone interested. Which thread should this go in... ???
https://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/16252342347/
Quote from: 4006 on February 03, 2015, 10:29:32 PM
1695 if anyone interested. Which thread should this go in... ???
https://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/16252342347/
Looks tidier than the WN Mercs used to be, 1695 seems to be in very good condition, externally anyway
Is 4019 out today?
might be some delays for people on WN59 due to a fire on ashmore park school
Quote from: jack4325 on February 05, 2015, 10:05:22 PM
might be some delays for people on WN59 due to a fire on ashmore park school
No delays Jack. Went right past it as the Firefighters arrived.
walsall B7 on WN59 bored 8 i was told with photo prof
https://flickr/p/qamG21
If u can't get access to the link the flickr jackrochelle99
WN25 on diversion, via the following route: Fibbersley Rd, right on to Broad Ln South, left on to Stubby Ln, left again onto Lichfield Rd at the end of Stubby Ln, then down March End Rd, rejoining normal line of route at the turnoff for Wednesfield
Quote from: jack4325 on February 09, 2015, 07:16:03 AM
walsall B7 on WN59 bored 8 i was told with photo prof
https://flickr/p/qamG21
If u can't get access to the link the flickr jackrochelle99
1768. It is indeed 59/08. late night board as well
Quote from: Nathan on February 09, 2015, 10:34:19 AM
Quote from: jack4325 on February 09, 2015, 07:16:03 AM
walsall B7 on WN59 bored 8 i was told with photo prof
https://flickr/p/qamG21
If u can't get access to the link the flickr jackrochelle99
1768. It is indeed 59/08. late night board as well
https://www.flickr.com/photos/128628285@N06/15858447754/
Wolverhampton relic 1695 noted on 4s today
Quote from: 646 on February 09, 2015, 01:42:57 PM
Wolverhampton relic 1695 noted on 4s today
Still here then I see.....
WN must be quite a bit short of buses if they need 1768 as well as 1695 which doesn't seem to be going anywhere soon.
Just a quick one from Nathan in noteworthys.
4021 was on 82's this morning due to finnish in Bilston at 18:30ish. But this bus didn't turn up at Wallbrook timing point so i'm guessing nothing went back on or it was 15+ mins down.
Quote from: NXDom on February 09, 2015, 06:15:14 PM
Just a quick one from Nathan in noteworthys.
4021 was on 82's this morning due to finnish in Bilston at 18:30ish. But this bus didn't turn up at Wallbrook timing point so i'm guessing nothing went back on or it was 15+ mins down.
@NXDom 4021 went on to WN59 to replace 1768, which would explain why it didn't show up
Quote from: Alex on February 09, 2015, 06:30:41 PM
Quote from: NXDom on February 09, 2015, 06:15:14 PM
Just a quick one from Nathan in noteworthys.
4021 was on 82's this morning due to finnish in Bilston at 18:30ish. But this bus didn't turn up at Wallbrook timing point so i'm guessing nothing went back on or it was 15+ mins down.
@NXDom 4021 went on to WN59 to replace 1768, which would explain why it didn't show up
Quote from: NXDom on February 09, 2015, 06:15:14 PM
Then what bus replaced it is the mystery ?
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Quote from: NXDom on February 09, 2015, 06:15:14 PM
Just a quick one from Nathan in noteworthys.
4021 was on 82's this morning due to finnish in Bilston at 18:30ish. But this bus didn't turn up at Wallbrook timing point so i'm guessing nothing went back on or it was 15+ mins down.
@NXDom 4021 went on to WN59 to replace 1768, which would explain why it didn't show up
4021 was taken off the 82 on arrival back into Wolverhampton at around 1545. It parked up for a bit and then went back towards the garage.
Later on, it replaced 1768 on the 59 - it wasn't taken off the 82 to operate the 59 (which would, in most situations, be ridiculous).
If no bus replaced 4021 on the 82, I would suggest the most likely cause was driver failure for the bus to be taken off.
Also it appeared afternoon peak extra 59/14 did not operate yesterday afternoon.
Quote from: Matt on February 10, 2015, 06:31:58 PM
@Roy any timings for 1695 please?
@Matt someone told me 1695 had failed ealier today
@Matt I saw it in Wall Heath on the 1230 Merry Hill to Wolverhampton service.
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Quote from: Roy on February 10, 2015, 06:37:07 PM
@Matt I saw it in Wall Heath on the 1230 Merry Hill to Wolverhampton service.
Thanks Roy. Looking at the timetable, it would have arrived at Wolverhampton at 17:50, I don't know anything about Wolverhampton's boards but it may have gone out as the 18:05 256 to Kingswinford, as that journey is not tracking
1695 is back in garage
Quote from: Matt on February 10, 2015, 06:50:02 PM
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Quote from: Matt on February 10, 2015, 06:43:16 PM
Quote from: Roy on February 10, 2015, 06:37:07 PM
@Matt I saw it in Wall Heath on the 1230 Merry Hill to Wolverhampton service.
Thanks Roy. Looking at the timetable, it would have arrived at Wolverhampton at 17:50, I don't know anything about Wolverhampton's boards but it may have gone out as the 18:05 256 to Kingswinford, as that journey is not tracking
1695 is back in garage
Failure, or finished its board?
According to someone i know, 1695 broke down in Wombourne on the 255, probably around 1540?
For the first time for a long time Wolverhampton have managed to get all 14 B6s in service together, with all of them out this morning.
(All 15 E200s are also out today)
Quote from: Alex on February 10, 2015, 06:54:10 PM
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Quote from: Roy on February 10, 2015, 06:37:07 PM
@Matt I saw it in Wall Heath on the 1230 Merry Hill to Wolverhampton service.
Thanks Roy. Looking at the timetable, it would have arrived at Wolverhampton at 17:50, I don't know anything about Wolverhampton's boards but it may have gone out as the 18:05 256 to Kingswinford, as that journey is not tracking
1695 is back in garage
Failure, or finished its board?
According to someone i know, 1695 broke down in Wombourne on the 255, probably around 1540?
If 1695 broke down in Wombourne, it wouldn't have been at 1540. It was scheduled to pass though Wombourne at about 1415 on the 1350 Wolverhampton to Merry Hill service and at about 1715 on the 1630 Merry Hill to Wolverhampton service. It could be that it broke down at about 1415 and was still in Wombourne at 1540 awaiting a tow back to Park Lane.
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Quote from: Matt on February 10, 2015, 06:43:16 PM
Quote from: Roy on February 10, 2015, 06:37:07 PM
@Matt I saw it in Wall Heath on the 1230 Merry Hill to Wolverhampton service.
Thanks Roy. Looking at the timetable, it would have arrived at Wolverhampton at 17:50, I don't know anything about Wolverhampton's boards but it may have gone out as the 18:05 256 to Kingswinford, as that journey is not tracking
1695 is back in garage
Failure, or finished its board?
According to someone i know, 1695 broke down in Wombourne on the 255, probably around 1540?
If 1695 broke down in Wombourne, it wouldn't have been at 1540. It was scheduled to pass though Wombourne at about 1415 on the 1350 Wolverhampton to Merry Hill service and at about 1715 on the 1630 Merry Hill to Wolverhampton service. It could be that it broke down at about 1415 and was still in Wombourne at 1540 awaiting a tow back to Park Lane.
It was broke down at Merry Hill displaying 255E it was on the patch then at about 15.15 it must have missed a trip or trips as another 255 was at Merry Hill at the same time
Just a random one if anyone can tell me why 4001 is 2 inches lower than 4002? also why has 4001/2 have fold away ramps that are stowed near the doors but the other spectras have the normal fold out ones?
Quote from: 4006 on February 12, 2015, 08:06:36 AM
Just a random one if anyone can tell me why 4001 is 2 inches lower than 4002? also why has 4001/2 have fold away ramps that are stowed near the doors but the other spectras have the normal fold out ones?
4001/2 were prototypes, 4003-22 were ordered after those two had been in use so the company got chance to change the spec to what they wanted.
4001/2 are lower than 4003-22, but I thought they were the same height. Is it just that 4002 has got a height sticker in it from the production batch or is it actually taller?
3601 in wolverhampton bus station @ 11.00 I think on training so may b about this morning for a while
Quote from: Tony on February 12, 2015, 08:16:09 AM
Quote from: 4006 on February 12, 2015, 08:06:36 AM
Just a random one if anyone can tell me why 4001 is 2 inches lower than 4002? also why has 4001/2 have fold away ramps that are stowed near the doors but the other spectras have the normal fold out ones?
4001/2 were prototypes, 4003-22 were ordered after those two had been in use so the company got chance to change the spec to what they wanted.
4001/2 are lower than 4003-22, but I thought they were the same height. Is it just that 4002 has got a height sticker in it from the production batch or is it actually taller?
4002 does appear to be a lowheight Spectra (Same as 4001)
Quote from: 4006 on February 12, 2015, 11:23:18 AM
3601 in wolverhampton bus station @ 11.00 I think on training so may b about this morning for a while
Just seen it at 11.46 on stafford street
Quote from: 4006 on February 12, 2015, 11:23:18 AM
3601 in wolverhampton bus station @ 11.00 I think on training so may b about this morning for a while
Isn't that the 'new' bus they use for filming the routes ?
Quote from: Andrew on February 12, 2015, 12:48:33 PM
Quote from: 4006 on February 12, 2015, 11:23:18 AM
3601 in wolverhampton bus station @ 11.00 I think on training so may b about this morning for a while
Isn't that the 'new' bus they use for filming the routes ?
Yes
Quote from: Tony on February 12, 2015, 08:16:09 AM
Quote from: 4006 on February 12, 2015, 08:06:36 AM
Just a random one if anyone can tell me why 4001 is 2 inches lower than 4002? also why has 4001/2 have fold away ramps that are stowed near the doors but the other spectras have the normal fold out ones?
4001/2 were prototypes, 4003-22 were ordered after those two had been in use so the company got chance to change the spec to what they wanted.
4001/2 are lower than 4003-22, but I thought they were the same height. Is it just that 4002 has got a height sticker in it from the production batch or is it actually taller?
I'm pretty sure the height stickers are 4001 - 13'10" and 4002 - 14'00" ill try and clarify or if someone else can?
I persume the chassis would be the same and the bodywork is that which is different but why 2 inches and what difference would that make in any case?
A new arrival at Wolverhampton which may be back in service soon is 244
Quote from: Tony on February 13, 2015, 08:45:01 AM
A new arrival at Wolverhampton which may be back in service soon is 244
Wasnt it at Wolves a few months ago after it left Walsall?
is 1695 in service if so which route please
Quote from: Westy on February 13, 2015, 09:44:04 AM
Quote from: Tony on February 13, 2015, 08:45:01 AM
A new arrival at Wolverhampton which may be back in service soon is 244
Wasnt it at Wolves a few months ago after it left Walsall?
Yes, that's correct. If I remember correctly, 244 served WN 11 first day, then on the second day, 244 served WN 54 pm peak board then went back to garage. Never seen 244 out since then.
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A new arrival at Wolverhampton which may be back in service soon is 244
Wasnt it at Wolves a few months ago after it left Walsall?
Yes, that's correct. If I remember correctly, 244 served WN 11 first day, then on the second day, 244 served WN 54 pm peak board then went back to garage. Never seen 244 out since then.
That didn't take long..... 244 already out on the 11
With 244 in service at WN 1695 has now returned to West Bromwich. There were no vehicle loans between garages at all today
Unbranded E200 845 on WN54 today. Currently parked up at 21:26 in Wolverhampton Bus Station
4017 is out today (82). First time that one has been in service for some time
The 82 goes past wrens nest too wolves from dudley, does it go past the same bit of wrens nest the x96 goes on? Sorry never been to wrens nest, and need to go on a spectra soon
It goes along some sections.
Centro website maps are you friend
Quote from: the trainbasher on February 16, 2015, 09:46:34 AM
It goes along some sections.
Centro website maps are you friend
So I've found out they go past park hall road in wrens nest. No idea where that is haha
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Quote from: the trainbasher on February 16, 2015, 09:46:34 AM
It goes along some sections.
Centro website maps are you friend
So I've found out they go past park hall road in wrens nest. No idea where that is haha
4009 is on the 255 if you want a Spectra at Merry Hill.
Left Wolverhampton at 14:50
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Quote from: Tony on February 12, 2015, 08:16:09 AM
Quote from: 4006 on February 12, 2015, 08:06:36 AM
Just a random one if anyone can tell me why 4001 is 2 inches lower than 4002? also why has 4001/2 have fold away ramps that are stowed near the doors but the other spectras have the normal fold out ones?
4001/2 were prototypes, 4003-22 were ordered after those two had been in use so the company got chance to change the spec to what they wanted.
4001/2 are lower than 4003-22, but I thought they were the same height. Is it just that 4002 has got a height sticker in it from the production batch or is it actually taller?
4002 does appear to be a lowheight Spectra (Same as 4001)
To clarify 4002 is 14'00" as is 4017 for certain so it appears 4001 is the only one that is lower?
4312 & 848 have beein swapped
4312 on WN59 board 3 has now gone on to the 27/04
848 has came off 27/04 and on to 59/03
4018 has moved for the first time for a couple of months!
It has been taken up from the bottom of the yard into the garage
how come 4017/8 has been off for a while? will 4018 return to use of will it be cannibalised to fix others
For any Spectra fans:
4002 and 4016 are both on the 59 today. Makes a change from wall to wall Tridents
4017 is out on the 82 again
4004 is on the 33
4010 is on the 11
Quote from: Nathan on February 17, 2015, 11:43:26 AM
For any Spectra fans:
4002 and 4016 are both on the 59 today. Makes a change from wall to wall Tridents
@Nathan - Any timings for 4002? Planning a journey right now - hoping to get it to Wednesfield, asfter alighting from a 79 at the Bus Station.
How's this sound? (I know it's not an appropriate thread but...)
74 to West Brom
79 to Wolverhampton
59 to Wednesfield
69 to Walsall
77 to Sutton Coldfield
71 to Castle Vale
67 to Birmingham (Bendy, if any)
16 home - Or reverse, where I get the 16 to town, etc...
@clayderman Nathan says that it left Wton Bus Stn around 1210, should arrive back at 1310. Hope that helps.
Quote from: Alex on February 17, 2015, 12:41:55 PM
@clayderman Nathan says that it left Wton Bus Stn around 1210, should arrive back at 1310. Hope that helps.
Very much, thanks. :)
4004 on WN126 is now on Smallbrook Q'way for anyone who wants to see a Spectra on the 126, should reach Broad St in 5 mins approx
Quote from: Alex on February 17, 2015, 02:21:15 PM
4004 on WN126 is now on Smallbrook Q'way for anyone who wants to see a Spectra on the 126, should reach Broad St in 5 mins approx
Damn I just got back from Birmingham
Quote from: Nathan on February 17, 2015, 11:43:26 AM
For any Spectra fans:
4002 and 4016 are both on the 59 today. Makes a change from wall to wall Tridents
4017 is out on the 82 again
4004 is on the 33
4010 is on the 11
Also this morning 4021 was out on the 82
Quote from: Alex on February 17, 2015, 02:21:15 PM
4004 on WN126 is now on Smallbrook Q'way for anyone who wants to see a Spectra on the 126, should reach Broad St in 5 mins approx
4004 was then swapped onto the 79 upon return to Wolverhampton with 4551 going onto the 126 off the 79.
Quote from: Matt on February 18, 2015, 06:15:57 PM
Enviro hybrid on 126E to Dudley just left Smallbrook Queensway.
5401 been on all day, was the allocated bus this morning
4021 126
Quote from: Rhys S on February 18, 2015, 06:44:17 PM
4021 126
Two Spectras in two days, both were (presumably, at least in the case of 4021) swapped off the 33, as i was there when 4004 was swapped yesterday and i saw 4021 earlier this morning on the 33
Quote from: Tony on February 18, 2015, 06:36:36 PM
Quote from: Matt on February 18, 2015, 06:15:57 PM
Enviro hybrid on 126E to Dudley just left Smallbrook Queensway.
5401 been on all day, was the allocated bus this morning
Allocated to board 126/20. What did 4021 replace
@Tony?
Quote from: Nathan on February 18, 2015, 07:50:33 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 18, 2015, 06:36:36 PM
Quote from: Matt on February 18, 2015, 06:15:57 PM
Enviro hybrid on 126E to Dudley just left Smallbrook Queensway.
5401 been on all day, was the allocated bus this morning
Allocated to board 126/20. What did 4021 replace @Tony?
has 4021 been swapped again ?
Quote from: Rhys S on February 18, 2015, 09:23:33 PM
Quote from: Nathan on February 18, 2015, 07:50:33 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 18, 2015, 06:36:36 PM
Quote from: Matt on February 18, 2015, 06:15:57 PM
Enviro hybrid on 126E to Dudley just left Smallbrook Queensway.
5401 been on all day, was the allocated bus this morning
Allocated to board 126/20. What did 4021 replace @Tony?
has 4021 been swapped again ?
4021 went on to ML1 swapped with 4314 i think
4566 or 4586 WN 82
Quote from: Matt on February 19, 2015, 07:35:32 PM
5407 on 126, is there a board that usually gets one of these or is it coincidence? As seem to be seeing a lot of them
Yeah, there is 1 board that does a school service, and a 1 trip, i think, then goes back to garage and comes back out on 126's in the afternoon, also the last 126 back into garage, at after 1am
Quote from: Alex on February 19, 2015, 07:43:43 PM
Quote from: Matt on February 19, 2015, 07:35:32 PM
5407 on 126, is there a board that usually gets one of these or is it coincidence? As seem to be seeing a lot of them
Yeah, there is 1 board that does a school service, and a 1 trip, i think, then goes back to garage and comes back out on 126's in the afternoon, also the last 126 back into garage, at after 1am
the hybird comes out of garage at 2.00 pm and stays out on the 126 it does not do a school
Quote from: jack4325 on February 19, 2015, 07:45:34 PM
Quote from: Alex on February 19, 2015, 07:43:43 PM
Quote from: Matt on February 19, 2015, 07:35:32 PM
5407 on 126, is there a board that usually gets one of these or is it coincidence? As seem to be seeing a lot of them
Yeah, there is 1 board that does a school service, and a 1 trip, i think, then goes back to garage and comes back out on 126's in the afternoon, also the last 126 back into garage, at after 1am
the hybird comes out of garage at 2.00 pm and stays out on the 126 it does not do a school
Meant in the morning, mate
Quote from: Alex on February 19, 2015, 07:54:57 PM
Quote from: jack4325 on February 19, 2015, 07:45:34 PM
Quote from: Alex on February 19, 2015, 07:43:43 PM
Quote from: Matt on February 19, 2015, 07:35:32 PM
5407 on 126, is there a board that usually gets one of these or is it coincidence? As seem to be seeing a lot of them
Yeah, there is 1 board that does a school service, and a 1 trip, i think, then goes back to garage and comes back out on 126's in the afternoon, also the last 126 back into garage, at after 1am
the hybird comes out of garage at 2.00 pm and stays out on the 126 it does not do a school
Meant in the morning, mate
theres no schools on the 126
Quote from: jack4325 on February 19, 2015, 08:29:07 PM
Quote from: Alex on February 19, 2015, 07:54:57 PM
Quote from: jack4325 on February 19, 2015, 07:45:34 PM
Quote from: Alex on February 19, 2015, 07:43:43 PM
Quote from: Matt on February 19, 2015, 07:35:32 PM
5407 on 126, is there a board that usually gets one of these or is it coincidence? As seem to be seeing a lot of them
Yeah, there is 1 board that does a school service, and a 1 trip, i think, then goes back to garage and comes back out on 126's in the afternoon, also the last 126 back into garage, at after 1am
the hybird comes out of garage at 2.00 pm and stays out on the 126 it does not do a school
Meant in the morning, mate
theres no schools on the 126
And there is no booked Hybrid board
The board which you are both referring to is 126/22. Not sure if it does a school or comes straight from garage but it enters service on the 126 sometime between 4 and half past 4.
As Tony said, it is not listed as a Hybrid but they tend to usually get onto that board.
126/22 board does do a school first. 785 school service
4549, freshly repainted, is out on WN59 today
about 13:45 ish 4011 on 11 service swiped the front of a trident on 256 this afternoon on stand l in the bus station. the spectra got off lightly compared to the damage to the trident. centro should reorganise any services leaving via ring road exit to go from the far side of bus station, as that left hand turn looks dangerous.
Quote from: Nathan on February 19, 2015, 09:00:23 PM
The board which you are both referring to is 126/22. Not sure if it does a school or comes straight from garage but it enters service on the 126 sometime between 4 and half past 4.
As Tony said, it is not listed as a Hybrid but they tend to usually get onto that board.
this does the 785 school before running private 2 bus station 2 start it's 126 duty
Quote from: mranon on February 20, 2015, 06:06:26 PM
about 13:45 ish 4011 on 11 service swiped the front of a trident on 256 this afternoon on stand l in the bus station. the spectra got off lightly compared to the damage to the trident. centro should reorganise any services leaving via ring road exit to go from the far side of bus station, as that left hand turn looks dangerous.
Does anybody know which trident it was ?
Quote from: Rhys S on February 21, 2015, 10:21:11 AM
Quote from: mranon on February 20, 2015, 06:06:26 PM
about 13:45 ish 4011 on 11 service swiped the front of a trident on 256 this afternoon on stand l in the bus station. the spectra got off lightly compared to the damage to the trident. centro should reorganise any services leaving via ring road exit to go from the far side of bus station, as that left hand turn looks dangerous.
Does anybody know which trident it was ?
4559 I believe
If its of interest, 4588 has stayed out all night on 3/4, doing the 2351 3 ex Castlecroft
Anybody got the list of Rail Replacement vehicles for this evening? BNS - Wolverhampton
Wolverhampton have woken 4018 up from its long slumber, another one claimed to be withdrawn has done the 784 school service and 4 hours on the 1 route today, although it is now back in garage
how come some of these spectras have had long periods off the road? 4021 was off for a while then reappeared, same as 4017 now 4018.
Quote from: mranon on February 24, 2015, 01:50:20 PM
how come some of these spectras have had long periods off the road? 4021 was off for a while then reappeared, same as 4017 now 4018.
I haven't seen 4015 or 4022 on the road for a bit. Are they still on the road and avoiding me or are these off the road?
Quote from: Nathan on February 24, 2015, 03:10:43 PM
Quote from: mranon on February 24, 2015, 01:50:20 PM
how come some of these spectras have had long periods off the road? 4021 was off for a while then reappeared, same as 4017 now 4018.
I haven't seen 4015 or 4022 on the road for a bit. Are they still on the road and avoiding me or are these off the road?
4022 is currently without an engine (knackered) or gearbox (donated to another Spectra) so is unlikely to appear for some time
And 4012? I think has been abandoned at WA for at least 3 weeks
1671 on loan back home at PL on the 27 today I've been told
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on February 25, 2015, 07:59:50 AM
1671 on loan back home at PL on the 27 today I've been told
Yes saw it on the 27 earlier in the bus station
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on February 25, 2015, 07:59:50 AM
1671 on loan back home at PL on the 27 today I've been told
Thanks does anybody know what time it will go from Dudley as I will be up there around 3:45 4:00
Quote from: Rhys S on February 25, 2015, 08:09:10 AM
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on February 25, 2015, 07:59:50 AM
1671 on loan back home at PL on the 27 today I've been told
Thanks does anybody know what time it will go from Dudley as I will be up there around 3:45 4:00
0935, 1135, 1535, 1735 ex Wolverhampton
Quote from: Matt on February 25, 2015, 02:43:36 PM
Spectra 4022 has been reported on the 126 in another thread. From Tony's recent comments I was under the impression that this bus was long term VOR.
4002 is on the 126
4324 is back out freshly repainted on WN59
Re Noteworthy workings
1613 is on WN 2 is WB's 1613 on loan ???
Quote from: Rhys S on February 26, 2015, 08:30:22 AM
Re Noteworthy workings
1613 is on WN 2 is WB's 1613 on loan ???
Yes
Has 1671 gone back to WB? Or do we have two Mercs on loan?
Quote from: Nathan on February 26, 2015, 10:44:31 AM
Has 1671 gone back to WB? Or do we have two Mercs on loan?
1671 was parked up at PL this morning I believe
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on February 26, 2015, 12:58:51 PM
Quote from: Nathan on February 26, 2015, 10:44:31 AM
Has 1671 gone back to WB? Or do we have two Mercs on loan?
1671 was parked up at PL this morning I believe
Appears to be on the 59 now. How did i miss that one?
@Ashley 60171 could i possibly ask timings and location for 1671 as i want to work outs its running boards and what it has replaced
Cheers
Quote from: Nathan on February 26, 2015, 02:58:57 PM
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on February 26, 2015, 12:58:51 PM
Quote from: Nathan on February 26, 2015, 10:44:31 AM
Has 1671 gone back to WB? Or do we have two Mercs on loan?
1671 was parked up at PL this morning I believe
Appears to be on the 59 now. How did i miss that one?
@Ashley 60171 could i possibly ask timings and location for 1671 as i want to work outs its running boards and what it has replaced
Cheers
I believe it left Wolves between 1330 and 1350 because I found out by text at around that time so that narrows it down a bit hopefully
Strange that WN didn't lend 1661 from PE, at least it would have blinds!
WN 2024 currently attached to stand D at Merry hill via it wing mirror don't no how it managed to do that...
@trainbasher cheers for spotting my error, i just reread my comment and edited it
Quote from: Chris2301 on February 27, 2015, 04:45:44 PM
WN 2024 currently attached to stand D via it wing mirror don't no how it managed to do that...
Stand d at merry hill that is.
Do b6s often appear on 81 on Saturday?
Quote from: Chris2301 on February 27, 2015, 04:45:44 PM
WN 2024 currently attached to stand D at Merry hill via it wing mirror don't no how it managed to do that...
@trainbasher cheers for spotting my error, i just reread my comment and edited it
Am I right in assuming that it should have operated a 255 as the route is in meltdown this afternoon.
1613 on the 82, just left Dudley followed by 633 on the 81! What's happened to all of WN's buses, rail replacement?
Quote from: Chris2301 on February 27, 2015, 04:45:44 PM
WN 2024 currently attached to stand D at Merry hill via it wing mirror don't no how it managed to do that...
It's a lot easier than you think with that bus station, the X96 stand towards Dudley is awkward too.
Quote from: Andrew on February 27, 2015, 05:28:58 PM
Quote from: Chris2301 on February 27, 2015, 04:45:44 PM
WN 2024 currently attached to stand D at Merry hill via it wing mirror don't no how it managed to do that...
It's a lot easier than you think with that bus station, the X96 stand towards Dudley is awkward too.
if it is that bad, all the bus companies that use that bus station should get together and refuse to call there!!!
Quote from: Roy on February 27, 2015, 05:19:42 PM
Quote from: Chris2301 on February 27, 2015, 04:45:44 PM
WN 2024 currently attached to stand D at Merry hill via it wing mirror don't no how it managed to do that...
@trainbasher cheers for spotting my error, i just reread my comment and edited it
Am I right in assuming that it should have operated a 255 as the route is in meltdown this afternoon.
It was a 255 bus, 222 and other 255 used Stand E temporary
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on February 27, 2015, 05:23:54 PM
1613 on the 82, just left Dudley followed by 633 on the 81! What's happened to all of WN's buses, rail replacement?
That is in the evenings. Appears to be a temporary shortage of buses (Driver told me 6 Tridents were parked up in garage on Monday; 3 on the ramps and another 3 waiting to be worked on)
The transfer of 4310 to PE and 4606 being off the road with damage doesn't help!
4018 (which is out today on the 82) was actually dead for nearly five months before re-appearing this week.
4015 another long term missing Spectra is now back together again and will probably make an appearance next week
4012 & 4022 will not be making another appearance.
Anyone know what time 586 will next depart merry hill or dudley towards merry hill?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 28, 2015, 01:40:35 PM
Anyone know what time 586 will next depart merry hill or dudley towards merry hill?
586 is arriving Merry Hill now.
Edit: Departed at 14:50.
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2015/03/02/jailed-wolverhampton-bus-cash-box-raider-who-struck-five-times-in-six-days/
What buses currently operate on the 27?
Quote from: Matt on March 02, 2015, 08:28:36 PM
This has probably been answered before, but is it allowed with nBus/nNetwork tickets to board/alight services such as the 255/256 in Staffordshire, e.g. Wombourne?
Yes they are. Part of the N Bus area. Done it many times with my N Bus. They are valid in Perton and Codsall also.
Here's the boundary map:
http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/TicketHome/nbus_ticket.aspx
Quote from: Matt on March 02, 2015, 08:28:36 PM
This has probably been answered before, but is it allowed with nBus/nNetwork tickets to board/alight services such as the 255/256 in Staffordshire, e.g. Wombourne?
It used to be with a nNetwork, but not an nBus. This has now been sorted and both are allowed in Wombourne.
There are still some parts of Staffordshire where they are not valid, Burntwood for example.
..... Which is strange because Pattingham is listed on the N-Bus map. I'm glad i've never gone to Pattingham on the 10A then!
In other news,
4015 has re entered service at WN. Seen on the 11 Service to Underhill this afternoon.
4001 got on the 126 today, I caught from Birmingham outside selfridges at about 3pm.
Quote from: bususer12 on March 02, 2015, 09:56:41 PM
4001 got on the 126 today, I caught from Birmingham outside selfridges at about 3pm.
Swapped onto the 33 on return to Wolverhampton.
Quote from: Nathan on March 02, 2015, 10:16:48 PM
Quote from: bususer12 on March 02, 2015, 09:56:41 PM
4001 got on the 126 today, I caught from Birmingham outside selfridges at about 3pm.
Swapped onto the 33 on return to Wolverhampton.
When i saw it just before noon in Dudley, it was heading to Wolverhampton, so must have visited at least twice. Surprised they didn't swap it when it got back to Wolverhampton first time.
4606 ia back out on the road
634 on WN28 has now being put on to stand U
1613 on WN82 just past heading towards Dudley in Roseville
Quote from: HTA844N on March 03, 2015, 10:59:31 AM
1613 on WN82 just past heading towards Dudley in Roseville
Timings?
4001 just spotted on 79 duties in Darlaston.
4001 is on the 79 this afternoon
4006 and 4011 both on the 59 today. 4011 was allocated from garage on 59/13 (Last bus out of garage on the 59 in the morning and Spectra's sometimes deputise for Tridents on this board). 4006 replaced 4555 on 59/10 (Finishes at W'ton at 20:24)
843 and 848 were both on the 11 today; possibly explaining the use of 601 on the 27 and 634 on the 28.
Quote from: Nathan on March 03, 2015, 06:56:03 PM
4001 is on the 79 this afternoon
4006 and 4011 both on the 59 today. 4011 was allocated from garage on 59/13 (Last bus out of garage on the 59 in the morning and Spectra's sometimes deputise for Tridents on this board). 4006 replaced 4555 on 59/10 (Finishes at W'ton at 20:24)
843 and 848 were both on the 11 today; possibly explaining the use of 601 on the 27 and 634 on the 28.
4005/18/1613 82
Quote from: Rhys S on March 03, 2015, 07:03:23 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 03, 2015, 06:56:03 PM
4001 is on the 79 this afternoon
4006 and 4011 both on the 59 today. 4011 was allocated from garage on 59/13 (Last bus out of garage on the 59 in the morning and Spectra's sometimes deputise for Tridents on this board). 4006 replaced 4555 on 59/10 (Finishes at W'ton at 20:24)
843 and 848 were both on the 11 today; possibly explaining the use of 601 on the 27 and 634 on the 28.
4005/18/1613 82
Spectra's aren't even worth a mention on the 82 as they are allocated. 1613 has already been mentioned as being on board 82/01.
Is the 79E still operating?
Quote from: NXDom on March 04, 2015, 07:45:05 PM
Is the 79E still operating?
ML1 just operates to the Royal (Steelhouse Lane) requires 2 buses AM and 2 buses PM
845 is on the 243 today
Quote from: 4006 on March 05, 2015, 12:35:14 PM
845 is on the 243 today
Any idea what board its on?
846 is on the 1500 256 from Stourbridge
What is the Perton barrier?
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on March 05, 2015, 10:14:41 PM
What is the Perton barrier?
A way to allow buses into perton quicker than cars :-)
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on March 05, 2015, 10:14:41 PM
What is the Perton barrier?
A barrier that continually fails to function correctly :D
There is a bus only lane that runs into Perton from the Tettenhall side there is a round metal 'stump' or barrier that sticks out the road to prevent traffic from passing. Some buses have transponders fitted that activate the barrier when they get near. The barrier sinks into the ground allowing the bus to pass. Once negotiated the barrier rises again
if anyone is looking for 244 it is on the 11
Absolutely amazing!
Wolverhampton have managed to get all 16 remaining Spectras out in service this morning, and from what I can tell none has broken down!
Quote from: Matt on March 06, 2015, 11:16:50 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 06, 2015, 10:51:39 AM
Absolutely amazing!
Wolverhampton have managed to get all 16 remaining Spectras out in service this morning, and from what I can tell none has broken down!
Why is it people moan about the Spectras yet this goes to show that despite their age they are still some of the most reliable buses around.
They are definitely not that Matt.
This is the first time for many months WN have managed to get as many as 16 out, even when they had 20 of them, and it is extremely unusual if a couple are not heading back to garage without completing a days work
Quote from: Matt on March 06, 2015, 11:26:31 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 06, 2015, 11:19:48 AM
Quote from: Matt on March 06, 2015, 11:16:50 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 06, 2015, 10:51:39 AM
Absolutely amazing!
Wolverhampton have managed to get all 16 remaining Spectras out in service this morning, and from what I can tell none has broken down!
Why is it people moan about the Spectras yet this goes to show that despite their age they are still some of the most reliable buses around.
They are definitely not that Matt.
This is the first time for many months WN have managed to get as many as 16 out, even when they had 20 of them, and it is extremely unusual if a couple are not heading back to garage without completing a days work
I'm sure someone from Wolverhampton garage posted on here a while back that the Spectras were their second most reliable vehicles, behind the B7s. (before the E200s came)
I would not expect even the best of engineering departments to be able to keep an entire fleet of 16 seventeen-year-old buses on the road so the fact that Wolverhampton have managed it today is surely a compliment to both the vehicles and the engineers
There has been improvement in Spectra/B6LE reliability the last year or so but obviously not a massive difference, the B7's give you almost no grief at all
If 4018 is out today could someone let us know route and times please? Thanx
Quote from: X94 on March 07, 2015, 07:26:43 AM
If 4018 is out today could someone let us know route and times please? Thanx
It's on the 82
Quote from: 979 on March 07, 2015, 09:49:14 AM
Quote from: X94 on March 07, 2015, 07:26:43 AM
If 4018 is out today could someone let us know route and times please? Thanx
It's on the 82
Just found it. Thanx anyway :)
Quote from: Matt on March 06, 2015, 11:16:50 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 06, 2015, 10:51:39 AM
Absolutely amazing!
Wolverhampton have managed to get all 16 remaining Spectras out in service this morning, and from what I can tell none has broken down!
Why is it people moan about the Spectras yet this goes to show that despite their age they are still some of the most reliable buses around.
They may have got 16 out but there was at least 3 back in the garage last night
As for reliability improvement that is mainly because some of them only do school runs an sit on the patch most of the day!
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 07, 2015, 11:34:22 AM
Is it just e200s on 81 today?
From what i could see yes.
For any Spectra fans, 4006 is now on 79's left Wolverhampton about 14:25. Pretty rare to find one on there on Saturday.
Unbranded E200 846 is on the 54 today.
And there were 5 E400H's on 59's today. Never seen that many on here on a Saturday!
Is 1671 still at PL. A Merc has just passed me on the 59
Quote from: Nathan on March 10, 2015, 10:37:28 AM
Is 1671 still at PL. A Merc has just passed me on the 59
1629 on loan from Pensnett!
Quote from: Tony on March 10, 2015, 10:48:24 AM
Quote from: Nathan on March 10, 2015, 10:37:28 AM
Is 1671 still at PL. A Merc has just passed me on the 59
1629 on loan from Pensnett!
@Tony Can you tell me times from Wolverhampton between about 16:00 and 17:00 please?
@NXWM Spectra It passed my school at 10:37 towards Wolverhampton so will pass through W'ton between 00: and 05: past the hour (So between 16:00 and 16:05 and 17:00 and 17:05)
Quote from: Tony on March 10, 2015, 10:48:24 AM
Quote from: Nathan on March 10, 2015, 10:37:28 AM
Is 1671 still at PL. A Merc has just passed me on the 59
1629 on loan from Pensnett!
Wouldn't 1661 have been a better bus to loan, it has got WN Blinds?
Quote from: Matt on March 10, 2015, 02:53:07 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on March 10, 2015, 02:35:16 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 10, 2015, 10:48:24 AM
Quote from: Nathan on March 10, 2015, 10:37:28 AM
Is 1671 still at PL. A Merc has just passed me on the 59
1629 on loan from Pensnett!
Wouldn't 1661 have been a better bus to loan, it has got WN Blinds?
1629 has LEDs 5 second job to set it up
Its still running around with 276 on the back!
Saw something amusing, someone has rolled the rear blinds of 601 to "69ER"!!! 😂😂
Quote from: Matt on March 10, 2015, 05:51:28 AM
Hybrid on 126 Paradise Circus @ 05:45
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5406
Quote from: Tony on March 10, 2015, 10:48:24 AM
Quote from: Nathan on March 10, 2015, 10:37:28 AM
Is 1671 still at PL. A Merc has just passed me on the 59
1629 on loan from Pensnett!
When did thst get loaned?
And where has 1613 gone ?
Quote from: Rhys S on March 10, 2015, 07:03:10 PM
Quote from: Matt on March 10, 2015, 05:51:28 AM
Hybrid on 126 Paradise Circus @ 05:45
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5406
Quote from: Tony on March 10, 2015, 10:48:24 AM
Quote from: Nathan on March 10, 2015, 10:37:28 AM
Is 1671 still at PL. A Merc has just passed me on the 59
1629 on loan from Pensnett!
When did thst get loaned?
And where has 1613 gone ?
1613 has gone back to WB
1629 was loaned today to pl
Quote from: jack4325 on March 10, 2015, 07:04:44 PM
Quote from: Rhys S on March 10, 2015, 07:03:10 PM
Quote from: Matt on March 10, 2015, 05:51:28 AM
Hybrid on 126 Paradise Circus @ 05:45
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5406
Quote from: Tony on March 10, 2015, 10:48:24 AM
Quote from: Nathan on March 10, 2015, 10:37:28 AM
Is 1671 still at PL. A Merc has just passed me on the 59
1629 on loan from Pensnett!
When did thst get loaned?
And where has 1613 gone ?
1613 has gone back to WB
1629 was loaned today to pl
Oh Ok Thankyou how is 4589
Quote from: Matt on March 11, 2015, 06:49:13 PM
Can anyone let me know if 662 is fixed or if it's swapped please as was hoping to catch it on its 255 but shan't bother if it's a Trident.
I'm about to go out to see. Will let you know
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Quote from: Matt on March 11, 2015, 06:49:13 PM
Can anyone let me know if 662 is fixed or if it's swapped please as was hoping to catch it on its 255 but shan't bother if it's a Trident.
I'm about to go out to see. Will let you know
Currently on Warstones Road on 256
Quote from: Matt on March 11, 2015, 07:11:35 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 11, 2015, 07:08:09 PM
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Quote from: Matt on March 11, 2015, 06:49:13 PM
Can anyone let me know if 662 is fixed or if it's swapped please as was hoping to catch it on its 255 but shan't bother if it's a Trident.
I'm about to go out to see. Will let you know
Currently on Warstones Road on 256
Thank you Tony, scheduled to run the 19:45 255 from Wolverhampton?
Won't it be running a bit late if it's overheated?
Bit of drop back at W'ton
@Trident 4194.
Yes
@Matt it will work the 19:45 255 off Wolves
Quote from: Matt on March 11, 2015, 07:25:32 PM
Picking up on Tony's post, where exactly is Warstones Road? Can only find one and the 256 doesn't use it
662 has been swapped at Wolverhampton Bus Station for 4585 unfortunately. 662 has gone back to garage
Quote from: Nathan on March 11, 2015, 07:44:13 PM
Quote from: Matt on March 11, 2015, 07:25:32 PM
Picking up on Tony's post, where exactly is Warstones Road? Can only find one and the 256 doesn't use it
662 has been swapped at Wolverhampton Bus Station for 4585 unfortunately. 662 has gone back to garage
Presumably they were worried about it overheating again.
4575 was parked in Stourbridge bus station just before noon today, presume it was on the 256/7, however was displaying WORKS SERVICE. Presume driver was having problem with the display, but leads me to ask the question, do Works Services run from WN garage?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on March 11, 2015, 07:57:24 PM
4575 was parked in Stourbridge bus station just before noon today, presume it was on the 256/7, however was displaying WORKS SERVICE. Presume driver was having problem with the display, but leads me to ask the question, do Works Services run from WN garage?
Not that i'm aware of. Last one WN did was Amazon Rugely at Christmas but it had a special display set up for that
4539 was parked up in W'ton Bus Station about 19:35 displaying '40- Walsall Via Willenhall'
For the second time in as many weeks the spectra on 82/03 has started late. Both times being 4018!
Last week it missed its first journey on the 82 starting at Roseville @ 7:40
Today it missed its first journey and started in bilston! Surely it should be put out its misery soon.
If I was you inform National express or Nx inspector
is the anothor merc on loan to pl due to the fact just seen one turn out of queen street with no destonaton showing but had passageners
Quote from: jack4325 on March 12, 2015, 08:21:16 AM
is the anothor merc on loan to pl due to the fact just seen one turn out of queen street with no destonaton showing but had passageners
Or 1629 is still at WN?
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is the anothor merc on loan to pl due to the fact just seen one turn out of queen street with no destonaton showing but had passageners
Or 1629 is still at WN?
just seen a merc on WN3 i think there
ARE there two mercs on loan again
2001 has been re-registered S1TWM
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is the anothor merc on loan to pl due to the fact just seen one turn out of queen street with no destonaton showing but had passageners
Or 1629 is still at WN?
just seen a merc on WN1698 i think
is there two mercs on loan again
@jack4325, which route 1698 is on?
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is the anothor merc on loan to pl due to the fact just seen one turn out of queen street with no destonaton showing but had passageners
Or 1629 is still at WN?
just seen a merc on WN1698 i think
is there two mercs on loan again
@jack4325, which route 1698 is on?
The 1126 3 ex Castlecroft
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is the anothor merc on loan to pl due to the fact just seen one turn out of queen street with no destonaton showing but had passageners
Or 1629 is still at WN?
just seen a merc on WN1698 i think
is there two mercs on loan again
@jack4325, which route 1698 is on?
The 1126 3 ex Castlecroft
1743 is another on loan, currently on the 4 in the City Centre heading North
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on March 12, 2015, 09:28:13 AM
2001 has been re-registered S1TWM
If anybody wants to find this bus today, it is on the 255 (1050 from Wolverhampton to Merry Hill).
Pity the management has nothing better to do.
I would guess that R1 NEG and R2 NEG will also be transferred when 4001/2 are withdrawn. If I remember correctly, S1 TWM started life on 6001.
@Roy yes S1 did. If they did put R1/2 on anything it'd probably be the mmcs but I'm sure if either were preserved, the person buying them would love the registrations kept
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is the anothor merc on loan to pl due to the fact just seen one turn out of queen street with no destonaton showing but had passageners
Or 1629 is still at WN?
just seen a merc on WN1698 i think
is there two mercs on loan again
@jack4325, which route 1698 is on?
The 1126 3 ex Castlecroft
Thanks,
@Ashley 60171. :) Saw both 1698 and 1743 this afternoon.
In relation to 1743, it was infact allocated to board 4/02 from garage this morning at 05:43.
Quote from: Nathan on March 12, 2015, 08:32:04 PM
In relation to 1743, it was infact allocated to board 4/02 from garage this morning at 05:43.
Is 1629 still at WN or has it returned to PE for repair?
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Quote from: Nathan on March 12, 2015, 08:32:04 PM
In relation to 1743, it was infact allocated to board 4/02 from garage this morning at 05:43.
Is 1629 still at WN or has it returned to PE for repair?
@PE
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In relation to 1743, it was infact allocated to board 4/02 from garage this morning at 05:43.
Is 1629 still at WN or has it returned to PE for repair?
@PE
Was on the 297 today and 276 on tuesday
@Ashley 60171 it was on the 59 at WN on Tuesday (With 276 on the back though)
Quote from: Nathan on March 12, 2015, 08:49:35 PM
@Ashley 60171 it was on the 59 at WN on Tuesday (With 276 on the back though)
I meant Wednesday then, I have said to you all the only thing I can remember is my name most of the time. Now I'm just clogging the forum up, sorry all
I tried to look through on the nwm and nxwm websites about the bus shelters outside University of Wolverhampton being removed and some works are being done in these areas. Sadly, there is no information about this. There is a temporary bus pole for NX 3; 4; 32; 33; and 54, Arriva 76. I was wondering if any of you know any information about it and could you tell me please?
Thanks.
Quote from: P419 EJW on March 12, 2015, 10:09:20 PM
I tried to look through on the nwm and nxwm websites about the bus shelters outside University of Wolverhampton being removed and some works are being done in these areas. Sadly, there is no information about this. There is a temporary bus pole for NX 3; 4; 32; 33; and 54, Arriva 76. I was wondering if any of you know any information about it and could you tell me please?
Thanks.
I think they're gas or electrical related works
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on March 12, 2015, 09:28:13 AM
2001 has been re-registered S1TWM
Managed to find it in Wolves earlier
https://www.flickr.com/photos/127701512@N04/16788986296/
Why would they hang onto a personallised reg mentioning TWM when they are called National Express?
Could understand them hanging onto NEG regs though.
Quote from: Westy on March 15, 2015, 12:23:05 AM
Why would they hang onto a personallised reg mentioning TWM when they are called National Express?
Could understand them hanging onto NEG regs though.
Because single digit number plates are worth quite a bit.
New E20's
https://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/16641128068/
862 is out on WN25
Quote from: jack4325 on March 16, 2015, 02:24:13 PM
862 is out on WN25
Along with 1743, 862 also has super x displays (scrolling)
4135 now at WN on the 59 today
1743 has gone back to PE
1698 is still on loan to WN,on the 11 today.
Quote from: Nathan on March 17, 2015, 04:16:11 PM
4135 at WN on the 59 today
Didn't take long for the seat to be replaced!
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4135 at WN on the 59 today
Didn't take long for the seat to be replaced!
It was only a small hole in one cushion
Oh right and they had to have the fire brigade out for that.
Don't buses have a fire extinguisher?
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4135 at WN on the 59 today
Didn't take long for the seat to be replaced!
It was only a small hole in one cushion
Strong enough for the smell of smoke to still be there on the outside of 4135 when it went past earlier!
@Alex that wasn't the bus! That smell was just in the air. Probably the smell of smoke still in the air after that fire at Kenyons on Sunday!
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4135 at WN on the 59 today
Didn't take long for the seat to be replaced!
It was only a small hole in one cushion
Oh right and they had to have the fire brigade out for that.
Don't buses have a fire extinguisher?
Yes they have a fire extinguisher, the fire was out. They had to come and inspect it incase I started again.
Quote from: Nathan on March 17, 2015, 07:00:31 PM
@Alex that wasn't the bus! That smell was just in the air. Probably the smell of smoke still in the air after that fire at Kenyons on Sunday!
Ahh, that makes more sense if it was only a smaller fire
4140 on WN79 is this a transfer or a loan
Quote from: jack4325 on March 18, 2015, 10:58:02 AM
4140 on WN79 is this a transfer or a loan
Transfer, displaced by 4258
4138 on WN79 this morning.
Does anyone know this new driver on the 126 today?
Quote from: 979 on March 21, 2015, 04:12:25 PM
Does anyone know this new driver on the 126 today?
Going off of
@Alex post in who's the spotter, i'm guessing it's Tony? Probably not right but hey.
Quote from: NXDom on March 21, 2015, 04:16:27 PM
Going off of @Alex post in who's the spotter, i'm guessing it's Tony? Probably not right but hey.
Yes, you are correct. :)
Here is a close up view of the mysterious 126 Blackcountry driver..👍
Quote from: 979 on March 21, 2015, 06:43:25 PM
Here is a close up view of the mysterious 126 Blackcountry driver..👍
How come I took that as a favour for the Wolverhampton Route manager, not in uniform, didn't tell anyone, and yet one manager from HQ manages to catch my bus towards Birmingham, 4 members of this forum catch it the other way, and another gets photos!
Quote from: Tony on March 21, 2015, 06:48:58 PM
How come I took that as a favour for the Wolverhampton Route manager, not in uniform, didn't tell anyone, and yet one manager from HQ manages to catch my bus towards Birmingham, 4 members of this forum catch it the other way, and another gets photos!
@Tony, how come we never get you at Pensnett garage?
Quote from: Tony on March 21, 2015, 06:48:58 PM
How come I took that as a favour for the Wolverhampton Route manager, not in uniform, didn't tell anyone, and yet one manager from HQ manages to catch my bus towards Birmingham, 4 members of this forum catch it the other way, and another gets photos!
Sorry for my lack of knowledge but what rank are you for National Express West Midlands?
Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on March 21, 2015, 07:15:35 PM
Sorry for my lack of knowledge but what rank are you for National Express West Midlands?
Tony is a Revenue Inspector (amongst other things) :)
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on March 21, 2015, 07:13:36 PM
@Tony, how come we never get you at Pensnett garage?
The Job I did last Saturday, was put through Pensnett's books, so officially I was working for Pensnett last week. Tomorrow it is Walsall garage in a Perry Barr bus!
Quote from: Tony on March 21, 2015, 06:48:58 PM
How come I took that as a favour for the Wolverhampton Route manager, not in uniform, didn't tell anyone, and yet one manager from HQ manages to catch my bus towards Birmingham, 4 members of this forum catch it the other way, and another gets photos!
A coincidence i guess.......
5402 on the 529 this evening
Quote from: 4006 on March 23, 2015, 09:31:47 PM
5402 on the 529 this evening
Second night in a row! As with 5407 yesterday, 5402 was on the 59 during the day
Just seen a Trident finish service on the 3 at Fordhouses (1920). Was this a change bus?
Quote from: Nathan on March 24, 2015, 07:36:38 PM
4594 was allocated to 3/07 although that is a late board.
There were no Tridents on the 3 before 11am so I cant say yay or nay to one appearing later.
4590 was on the 54 yesterday until 1300ish when it was swapped for 841
54 branded 854 was on the 32/33 this morning but has been swapped
Also a B7RLE on either the 1 or 126, seen on Snow Hill, W'ton at 1025ish
Edit
4134 on the 59, at w'ton bus station at 1355
Quote from: Nathan on March 24, 2015, 07:36:38 PM
4594 was allocated to 3/07 although that is a late board.
3-07 was 2002 all day yesterday, 4594 was on the 255
Quote from: Tony on March 25, 2015, 02:22:21 PM
3-07 was 2002 all day yesterday, 4594 was on the 255
Sorry was going off what was allocated in garage.
4134 is now at WN. Just passed me on the 59
EDIT, Apologies Ashley. Didn't read your post above. I was too busy trying to check it was 4134
Any reason why 2062 was in Darlaston around 10am this morning being driven by an engineer. Was turning into some sort of factory, although i couldn't see the name of it??
Quote from: Nathan on March 25, 2015, 03:37:18 PM
Sorry was going off what was allocated in garage.
4134 is now at WN. Just passed me on the 59
EDIT, Apologies Ashley. Didn't read your post above. I was too busy trying to check it was 4134
No worries.
Also is it true 508 and 638 are being withdrawn tomorrow?
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on March 25, 2015, 06:13:25 PM
No worries.
Also is it true 508 and 638 are being withdrawn tomorrow?
No. 638 was withdrawn on Monday!
Quote from: Tony on March 25, 2015, 06:16:42 PM
No. 638 was withdrawn on Monday!
Has 582 died as well? Sorry to be a pain
4002 about 10 late departing (due 1600) merry hill if anyone interested
Do the 255/6/7 interwork?
4569 on the 3. 1110 off Castlecroft
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 28, 2015, 11:16:12 AM
Do the 255/6/7 interwork?
256/7 interwork at Stourbridge.
Occasional 255/6 interwork at Wolverhampton
255/E interwork at Merry Hill
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 28, 2015, 12:33:50 PM
256/7 interwork at Stourbridge.
Occasional 255/6 interwork at Wolverhampton
255/E interwork at Merry Hill
Early Morning and afternoon peak 255/6's interwork at Wolverhampton.
Sunday 255/6's interwork at Wolverhampton.
862 on WN6: https://www.flickr.com/photos/127701512@N04/16956479902/
1848 and 7022 on PB 952
4555 WN 11
4191 and 4347 X96
4017 WN 25
Quote from: Rhys S on March 28, 2015, 07:20:49 PM
1848 and 7022 on PB 952
4555 WN 11
4191 and 4347 X96
4017 WN 25
What have those got to do with WN?
4555 on the 11 is already mentioned in another thread
Spectra's are normal on 25's on Saturdays so no need to post :)
4017 was on the 529 this afternoon, Rhys.
In other news, Saw a B7RLE on the 5A earlier with a different kind of rear destination.
It had a destination of 'W'ton' then 5A underneath. I recall Spectra's had this kind of display for a short time.
Posted in wrong thread by accidnt
Quote from: Nathan on March 28, 2015, 07:29:26 PM
In other news, Saw a B7RLE on the 5A earlier with a different kind of rear destination.
It had a destination of 'W'ton' then 5A underneath. I recall Spectra's had this kind of display for a short time.
I'm sure you know this, but just to "reiterate", if you will: These displays are programmed onto the 74/75 as well, currently.
*Scrolling* destination at the top, Route number at the bottom.
And I think you are right. Along with the Spectras, the Presidents had them too. (When on the Soho Road) - Yet, I remember one alternating between '74E' (Full Size) & West Brom ('West" on top; "Brom" underneath) - obviously, WAYY before the arrival of the E400s. :)
Quote from: Nathan on March 28, 2015, 07:29:26 PM
What have those got to do with WN?
4555 on the 11 is already mentioned in another thread
Spectra's are normal on 25's on Saturdays so no need to post :)
4017 was on the 529 this afternoon, Rhys.
In other news, Saw a B7RLE on the 5A earlier with a different kind of rear destination.
It had a destination of 'W'ton' then 5A underneath. I recall Spectra's had this kind of display for a short time.
I saw that aswell I got a pic of it ( https://www.flickr.com/photos/97592007@N08/16335835334/ ) Yeah the spectras had them for while in late 2013 early 2014?
@clayderman ours looked like 82
W'TON :)
Quote from: NXDom on March 28, 2015, 07:51:54 PM
I saw that aswell I got a pic of it ( https://www.flickr.com/photos/97592007@N08/16335835334/ ) Yeah the spectras had them for while in late 2013 early 2014?
@clayderman ours looked like 82
W'TON :)
Yeah, that was the layout on the WB Presidents, when operative on Soho Road routes. There's a photo on the main site, of a spectra:
4022; see first picture, 126, then B'ham underneath it. ;)
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4022.html
Quote from: clayderman on March 28, 2015, 07:59:34 PM
Yeah, that was the layout on the WB Presidents, when operative on Soho Road routes. There's a photo on the main site, of a spectra:
4022; see first picture, 126, then B'ham underneath it. ;)
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4022.html
Presidents (on the 48) still have that layout, with the destination scrolling
48
Bartley Green
I think it was 4140.. (Correct me if I'm wrong) on the 126 Mid day this afternoon heading towards Birmingham, was strange to see a Y plate Trident, I ended up going on it :P
Quote from: ant29 on March 29, 2015, 12:34:47 AM
I think it was 4140.. (Correct me if I'm wrong) on the 126 Mid day this afternoon heading towards Birmingham, was strange to see a Y plate Trident, I ended up going on it :P
Yes, 4140 was on the 126 yesterday. Saw it in Dudley
In reference to Rhys S's post ib the Noteworthy thread, The 32/3 get Tridents on Sundays due to interworking with the 79.
Was ejected from 4313, on the 79 earlier today, due to what resembled at least half a pint of sick, splattered on the floor in the main buggy/wheelchair space. Seems to be back in service. Left West Brom about 3 minutes ago...
I know it is not noteworthy but 4140 is on the 126
Quote from: Rhys S on March 30, 2015, 04:05:39 PM
I know it is not noteworthy but 4140 is on the 126
4140 is a Walsall trident so possibly on loan to Wolverhampton
@nxwmbusfan1999 4140 is a transfer to WN & has been previously reported as such
Several B7RLE's have now gained Return/weekly ticket advertising for the 10 (Wolverhampton-Perton) in the same style as the 301/2. 2070/1 are the ones i noted today
and neither were on the 10!!!!!!
Quote from: Nathan on March 30, 2015, 06:52:40 PM
Several B7RLE's have now gained Return/weekly ticket advertising for the 10 (Wolverhampton-Perton) in the same style as the 301/2. 2070/1 are the ones i noted today
Any pics?
Quote from: mranon on March 30, 2015, 07:26:20 PM
and neither were on the 10!!!!!!
2070 was this afternoon. 2071 was on the 5/5A.
Quote from: Nathan on March 30, 2015, 07:54:21 PM
2070 was this afternoon. 2071 was on the 5/5A.
one on the 3 i think it was 2069
2070 was on the peak 3 service this morning
Quote from: mranon on March 30, 2015, 08:34:09 PM
2070 was on the peak 3 service this morning
2069-71 I have seen with the new stickers on today
Sorry if this has been asked before. Inndudley does the 27 and 27A enter and exit via the same route?
Quote from: NXDom on March 31, 2015, 05:23:32 PM
Sorry if this has been asked before. Inndudley does the 27 and 27A enter and exit via the same route?
@NXDom No, the 27 comes in via the same route as the 81/82/126, and the 27A comes in via the 205's route
Quote from: NXDom on March 31, 2015, 05:23:32 PM
Sorry if this has been asked before. Inndudley does the 27 and 27A enter and exit via the same route?
No. 27 goes in Priory Road, cross over the mini roundabout, New Street, then bus station. 27 goes out of Dudley like 541/541A used to, Priory Road, turn left to The Broadway. 27A goes in same way with 222, and goes out of Dudley same way with WN 1 and carries on until it turns left to Dibdale Road. Hope that helps you. :)
Quote from: NXDom on March 30, 2015, 07:27:09 PM
Any pics?
2071
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/16803415188/
Quote from: Nathan on March 31, 2015, 11:30:23 AM
Trident on WN2
@Nathan Forgot to mention that the Trident was 4589, if you hadn't seen it again
@Sayeed In reference to the Noteworthy thread, is the Spectra still on the 126?
Quote from: Nathan on March 31, 2015, 09:09:57 PM
@Sayeed In reference to the Noteworthy thread, is the Spectra still on the 126?
Don't know, caught it at Five ways (from city) and at around 8pm
For some reason the 255 at 3.30 departure from merry hill Had 255S on its destination display. i think the driver thought the schools were still on
Quote from: Matt on April 02, 2015, 04:54:33 PM
Some schools are
I have never seen a 255S before usually that departure is a normal 255. I know theres a 256S
255S timetable
http://jp.networkwestmidlands.com/centro/TTB/CEN_EFA02__0000668d_AS.pdf
There is no 255S service running the full length of the route from Merry Hill to Wolverhampton. There used to be one at 1500 from Merry Hill which ran via Ounsdale School during school terms only but this was discontinued 3 or 4 years ago. The 255S school service now runs from Ounsdale School to Blakenhall.
862 had a bump in Netherton on the 81 yesterday, not good drivers side is damaged indicator lights moved.
@Nathan 4564 on 82 isn't noteworthy one on most days now
Quote from: NXDom on April 04, 2015, 03:03:58 PM
@Nathan 4564 on 82 isn't noteworthy one on most days now
It is. There were a couple at the start of the week to cover Spectta's but Spectra's and B7's are the mainstay. I believe this is worthy to note as it does not happen on a daily basis week in week out. Just my opinion :)
4541 has a smashed window... Someone threw something at the window. The bus was supposed to serve the 59. Currently at the bus stop Wolverhampton Road, New Cross Hospital.
Is it likely I will catch a b6 on the wn25 in a weekday?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 04, 2015, 05:38:06 PM
Is it likely I will catch a b6 on the wn25 in a weekday?
Yes very, more likely on the 11,33/2.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 04, 2015, 05:38:06 PM
Is it likely I will catch a b6 on the wn25 in a weekday?
Very. The majority of the buses on the 25 on weekdays are B6's
Quote from: P419 EJW on April 04, 2015, 05:27:15 PM
4541 has a smashed window... Someone threw something at the window. The bus was supposed to serve the 59. Currently at the bus stop Wolverhampton Road, New Cross Hospital.
Oh dear >:( Bloody idiots! Haven't long come past there! Which window is it?
Quote from: Nathan on April 04, 2015, 05:45:44 PM
Oh dear >:( Bloody idiots! Haven't long come past there! Which window is it?
The second window on the left side, from the doors. It's the buggy zone window.
Quote from: P419 EJW on April 04, 2015, 05:56:34 PM
The second window on the left side, from the doors. It's the buggy zone window.
Even worse! What would have happened if a buggy or a wheelchair was parked in the space! Somebody could have got hurt. Some people really do have a screw loose....
Quote from: Nathan on April 04, 2015, 05:59:32 PM
Even worse! What would have happened if a buggy or a wheelchair was parked in the space! Somebody could have got hurt. Some people really do have a screw loose....
Yeah... See the picture here (http://i.imgur.com/8VtX5G5.jpg).
i really dont get what people think they acheive by these moronic acts. i hope karma gets them one day.
Is it just the 32/33/79 that interwork on a sunday?
Quote from: NXDom on April 04, 2015, 10:01:37 PM
Is it just the 32/33/79 that interwork on a sunday?
First 11 of the day from Underhill into City is a Trident that goes onto 32/33/79's in the day. After 6pm the 79 stops interworking with the 32/33. On Sunday nights, the 11/32/33 interwork using the two E200's off the 11
Other interworking routes in Wolverhampton on Sundays:
5 (Wolverhampton-Codsall) and 10 (Wolverhampton-Perton)
3 (Castlecroft-Fordhouses)/4 (Spring Hill-Penderford) interwork with the 6 (Wolvrhampton-Wobaston). As the 6 is half hourly and the 3/4 are hourly each, one of the buses runs private from the Wobaston terminus up Wobaston Road then up Stafford Road to take up duties on the 3 at Broadlands. The bus on the other half hour runs down the Drove way to Pendeford to take up duties on the 4
255/6 interwork at Wolverhampton.
4535 and another Trident on Private Hire this morning for the Vaisakhi Sikh Parade from Wednesfield Guru Nanak Temple to Willenhall Sikh Temple. Seen parked on Well Lane in Wednesfield about 10:45
As a result of the parade, there were slight delays for the 59/89 in Wednesfield and 40/529 in Willenhall whilst rolling road closures took place.
4001 now at Wythall
Quote from: Tony on April 06, 2015, 05:05:44 PM
4001 now at Wythall
I was hoping to catch 4001/4002 on Wednesday 😥
4001 at Wythall Bus Museum at lunchtime.
Quote from: Tony on April 06, 2015, 05:05:44 PM
4001 now at Wythall
Now at Birchley Island on way back to Wolverhampton!
Quote from: Tony on April 06, 2015, 06:05:20 PM
Now at Birchley Island on way back to Wolverhampton!
So it hasn't been withdrawn?
Quote from: Tony on April 06, 2015, 06:05:20 PM
Now at Birchley Island on way back to Wolverhampton!
Was driven out of the display area and parked in the bus service turning area at 5 o clock. It has an amazing array of different styles of moquette in the lower saloon but the seats are quite soft and comfortable with good leg room. The paint's a bit crabby round the edges of some of the lower panels but no more so than I've seen on 45xx/46xx WN Tridents. It was parked next to BC 5517.
Saw two B7RLE's working 5A's (One going out as a 5 an the other about to go onto the 10 due to interworking) today. Today was Sunday service so the 5A doesn't run. At first I thought the driver may have put up the wrong display but saw another coming inbound towards City also on a 5A. Any ideas?
4 spectras been withdrawn 😠 is there any reason for selecting these 4 spectras ?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 07, 2015, 08:48:13 AM
4 spectras been withdrawn 😠 is there any reason for selecting these 4 spectras ?
4002 is on 11
5a probably got used on destination as there was a diversion on due to easter fair in bilbrook. all buses had to run the 5a route
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 07, 2015, 08:48:13 AM
4 spectras been withdrawn 😠 is there any reason for selecting these 4 spectras ?
Of course. Ultimately it boils down to economics, whatever the individual reason.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 07, 2015, 08:48:13 AM
4 spectras been withdrawn 😠 is there any reason for selecting these 4 spectras ?
Probably MOT expiry, or condition issues (eg major components such as transmission, axles, engine or body corrosion) - there will be a limit to how much can be spent on each vehicle given short life expectancy dependent on the overall number of vehicles NXWM have available to deal with all their service commitments. Some parked up ones were reactivated not long ago, presumably because there was a shortage of vehicles at that time.
Next likely death at Wolverhampton will be 4008, last day next Tuesday
Official Info for those wondering about the 54/154.
Daysavers and Regional Passes will be valid on both routes throughout
Black Country Passes are valid the whole 154 to Hednesford but only to Coven on the 54
N Bus and other Centro tickets are not valid past I54 (Border)
Quote from: NXDom on April 04, 2015, 08:11:26 AM
862 had a bump in Netherton on the 81 yesterday, not good drivers side is damaged indicator lights moved.
862 now at Carlyle for repairs.
4001 is on WN33 if anyone after it
Quote from: jack4325 on April 09, 2015, 09:24:59 AM
4001 is on WN33 if anyone after it
IS there any difference between 4001/4002?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 09, 2015, 09:34:46 AM
IS there any difference between 4001/4002?
4002 was originally a Dundee vehicle, apart from that, can't think of anything?
Quote from: Nathan on April 08, 2015, 12:08:57 PM
Official Info for those wondering about the 54/154.
Daysavers and Regional Passes will be valid on both routes throughout
Black Country Passes are valid the whole 154 to Hednesford but only to Coven on the 54
N Bus and other Centro tickets are not valid past I54 (Border)
Could have done the Faresaver as far as Penkridge IMO.
Good market there on Wednesdays & Saturdays!
Trident on the 1
Quote from: Matt on April 09, 2015, 05:30:52 PM
4579, in Dudley now
Cheers matt, I saw it come in but didn't get the fleet number as I was keeping an eye out for the 121 at the time it came in (along with other stuff)
With these new 54/154 routes coming, will the current branding on 853/4 be removed or amended?
4002 is on the 82
In response to a comment from
@P419 EJW, 850 was parked up at a bus stop with its hazards on on Stafford Rd (City bound). It appeared to be taking up duties on a route so probably the one you saw?
Quote from: Nathan on April 10, 2015, 07:55:54 PM
In response to a comment from @P419 EJW, 850 was parked up at a bus stop with its hazards on on Stafford Rd (City bound). It appeared to be taking up duties on a route so probably the one you saw?
@Nathan, I can't ascertain what the fleet number was but it was fine and moving when I saw it around 17:45/17:50 if that helps. It was going up Fordhouses direction. I was on 677 on the 32.
Is the 126 the only Birmingham - Wolverhampton route ?!
Quote from: BusFan on April 10, 2015, 09:59:54 PM
Is the 126 the only Birmingham - Wolverhampton route ?!
Yes it is.
The 79 previously ran to Birmingham but was split into the 75 and 79 in July 2011 at the Wolverhampton Review.
What servive is 2001 on & the 3 latest envrio's
Quote from: Solo1 on April 11, 2015, 11:46:18 AM
What servive is 2001 on & the 3 latest envrio's
861 & 863 are on the 28
862 is off the road
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on April 10, 2015, 10:04:36 PM
Yes it is.
The 79 previously ran to Birmingham but was split into the 75 and 79 in July 2011 at the Wolverhampton Review.
Where do you get 75 in brum city centre?
Quote from: Bob on April 11, 2015, 12:22:36 PM
Where do you get 75 in brum city centre?
Old square (round the corner from 'Spoons) or by Police HQ on Snow Hill Q'way
Found 2001 on the 4 by luck saw it after
I got one of the new Envrio's
WN managed to get every remaining Spectra out in service this morning, first time for a while that has happened!
4008 is last day today, did the 794 this morning and currently in garage, so depends on if it does an afternoon piece whether it will be seen again.
Quote from: Tony on April 14, 2015, 02:33:37 PM
WN managed to get every remaining Spectra out in service this morning, first time for a while that has happened!
4008 is last day today, did the 794 this morning and currently in garage, so depends on if it does an afternoon piece whether it will be seen again.
Could you list the boards each Spectra's have worked today?
Quote from: Nathan on April 14, 2015, 03:14:46 PM
Could you list the boards each Spectra's have worked today?
4009 and 4010 are on the 529 if that narrows it down a touch
Edit
Typed 4020 in error, sorry
Quote from: Nathan on April 14, 2015, 03:14:46 PM
Could you list the boards each Spectra's have worked today?
4001 - 82-02
4002 - 763-01
4004 - 794-01 / 714-01
4005 - 82-07
4006 - 11-06
4008 - 794-02 (not yet out this afternoon)
4009 - 529-12 / 529-05
4010 - 529-04
4015 - 713-01 / 784-02
4016 - 33-01
4017 - 82-03
4018 - 82-04
4020 - 33-02
4021 - 82-06
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on April 14, 2015, 03:48:18 PM
4009 and 4020 are on the 529 if that narrows it down a touch
4020 hasn't been near the 529
4140 on WN2
Saw a notice about the 54 and 154 today, stating daysaver validity etc, and that the maximum single fare was £3.
I've found a picture on Flickr of 2067 in Cannock Bus Station doing route training for the 154.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/walsall1955/16789973706/in/photolist-rzF1eh-qtmyeC-b3fQe6-8z3WNx-4WUucZ-q3nfoS-iG5eh2-9hYwjU-dcHiPs-85U2cm-85K9hb-4JVAfa-aAJnK5-dm77kx-cGVk6J-8tJiFA-cBp5k1-cF3ko5-cBp5tm-9y93fs-8z3WND-8z3WNH-9feehm-e91C5W-6DTtiC-9hYwk1-85K9h1-6VMpzj-aycevz-cSZz5A-q5CZh5-9vC2dy-4mJsmj-9gHsVK-fBKNVH-7DtPJC-83F5VF-4Bz6p4-5pyhVL-5ptYXp-5pygMS-dQLxto-cE42DW-cDAr2m-qnEJpg-8FKRbx-cSZyrA-aBMy8w-cHHaSs-cGVk2q
Maybe B7RLE's will be used as apposed to E200's?
244 is on the 25
just seen in Wolverhampton heading for Pendeford
Can
@Tony tell me what bus was on 82/01 today please? Forgot to take down Fleetnumber
Quote from: NXDom on April 17, 2015, 04:34:44 PM
Can @Tony tell me what bus was on 82/01 today please? Forgot to take down Fleetnumber
2003
4001/2 both currently on the 82
if anybody is looking for 4139 today it on WN82
Quote from: jack4325 on April 18, 2015, 11:09:46 AM
if anybody is looking for 4139 today it on WN82
4547 is also on the 82.
Quote from: Nathan on April 18, 2015, 05:57:19 PM
4547 is also on the 82.
Pic Here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/97592007@N08/17186286055/
@646, in response to 4585 on the 54. It is a peak time extra that work a school then a 54. Always a Double Decker
Anyway moving on....
I'm sure I saw the Dudley Inspector driving 841 on the 28 this afternoon?
Wasn't sure where to put this but hope this is appropriate in here. Just saw 3601 in Wolverhampton Bus Station at 09:54.
Quote from: P419 EJW on April 22, 2015, 09:56:12 AM
Wasn't sure where to put this but hope this is appropriate in here. Just saw 3601 in Wolverhampton Bus Station at 09:54.
3601? The ALX200? Are you seeing things, mate? Haha!
Quote from: P419 EJW on April 22, 2015, 09:56:12 AM
Wasn't sure where to put this but hope this is appropriate in here. Just saw 3601 in Wolverhampton Bus Station at 09:54.
Possibly should have been in the Training Bus Sightings section as that is now what this is used for.
126 being diverted away from Broad street oh no. Have not checked if this has been posted elsewhere.
Quote from: monkeyjoe on April 23, 2015, 11:18:23 PM
126 being diverted away from Broad street oh no. Have not checked if this has been posted elsewhere.
Yeah, that's right. Will start from 10th May 2015. More information here (http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/black-country-service-changes-from-sunday-10th-may-/). :)
Quote from: monkeyjoe on April 23, 2015, 11:18:23 PM
126 being diverted away from Broad street oh no. Have not checked if this has been posted elsewhere.
Well there isn't much choice because from 10th May you cannot get from Broad Street to Suffolk Street Queensway, so two options were to put 126 on Colmore Row and cause extra chaos, or move it off Broad Street and still serve the Market Area whhich seems the much better choice
Quote from: Tony on April 24, 2015, 08:24:04 AM
Well there isn't much choice because from 10th May you cannot get from Broad Street to Suffolk Street Queensway, so two options were to put 126 on Colmore Row and cause extra chaos, or move it off Broad Street and still serve the Market Area whhich seems the much better choice
Or indeed what the iGo 10 is doing..., Great Charles St, u-turn and round to Suffolk st... Lol
2071 on WN6 https://flic.kr/p/rmZXjg
850-854 should all be branded ready for the 54 / 154 new services tomorrow. 849 has also had wifi fitted as spare bus in case any of the nominated 5 are not available
Quote from: Tony on April 26, 2015, 04:59:59 PM
850-854 should all be branded ready for the 54 / 154 new services tomorrow. 849 has also had wifi fitted as spare bus in case any of the nominated 5 are not available
Any Pics of it?
Quote from: NXDom on April 26, 2015, 05:06:01 PM
Any Pics of it?
Not yet, it was being applied at Wolverhampton garage, I have been at Walsall all day doing one of my driver CPC courses
Will they have Cannock/Hednesford etc on the branding?
2001, 2002 and 4006 are now Super-X scrolling.
EDIT: 2020 also seen.
2003 and 2017 also.
Quote from: Bob on April 26, 2015, 11:00:27 PM
Will they have Cannock/Hednesford etc on the branding?
I've seen the branding and yes it does include Cannock and Hednesford!
Seems 4580 has had an engine fire in Wednesbury.
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on April 27, 2015, 08:30:03 AM
2001, 2002 and 4006 are now Super-X scrolling.
EDIT: 2020 also seen.
2003 and 2017 also.
All WN buses with LED's now have Super-X Displays.
Saw a 54 by stafford rail station leaving for wolves with a half decent load. Also noticed a NX uniformed guy at chell rd bus stops handing out timetables. ..
Looking at the Running boards:
There is a 54/06 that comes out of garage at 22:00 then gets back at 23:43 (Must do a trip to I54)
28/01 does 28's in the day then goes onto late 54/154
There are still short workings to Pendeford Business Park/i54 on a 6 board (6/02 I think) and 11/06 (Which does a 54,a school, 11's then 11's 32's and 33's at night)
There is a school RB (794/**) that comes out of garage then does 54's/154's then goes onto a PM 794A. This is allocated a B7RLE.
Also some minor allocation changes:
It appears several 82 boards are now booked as Tridents
The 25 now has at least two boards that are booked B7RLE's
Quote from: Nathan on April 27, 2015, 05:58:48 PM
Looking at the Running boards:
There is a 54/06 that comes out of garage at 22:00 then gets back at 23:43 (Must do a trip to I54)
28/01 does 28's in the day then goes onto late 54/154
There are still short workings to Pendeford Business Park/i54 on a 6 board (6/02 I think) and 11/06 (Which does a 54,a school, 11's then 11's 32's and 33's at night)
There is a school RB (794/**) that comes out of garage then does 54's/154's then goes onto a PM 794A. This is allocated a B7RLE.
Also some minor allocation changes:
It appears several 82 boards are now booked as Tridents
The 25 now has at least two boards that are booked B7RLE's
I've been told by the road rep this afternoon that the 82's main allocation is to be tridents due to the withdrawals of the spectras.
Quote from: Nathan on April 27, 2015, 05:58:48 PM
Looking at the Running boards:
There is a 54/06 that comes out of garage at 22:00 then gets back at 23:43 (Must do a trip to I54)
28/01 does 28's in the day then goes onto late 54/154
There are still short workings to Pendeford Business Park/i54 on a 6 board (6/02 I think) and 11/06 (Which does a 54,a school, 11's then 11's 32's and 33's at night)
There is a school RB (794/**) that comes out of garage then does 54's/154's then goes onto a PM 794A. This is allocated a B7RLE.
Also some minor allocation changes:
It appears several 82 boards are now booked as Tridents
The 25 now has at least two boards that are booked B7RLE's
What a waste, a bus coming from PL for one late journey, surely a bus coming out of service could have been allocated it!
Anyone know what stand at cannock bus station the 154 will leave from? Cheers in advance :)
Quote from: Bob on April 27, 2015, 06:15:02 PM
Anyone know what stand at cannock bus station the 154 will leave from? Cheers in advance :)
According to the 154 timetable on nwm website, it's Stand 1 to Wolverhampton, and Stand 7 to Hednesford.
Quote from: Bob on April 27, 2015, 06:15:02 PM
Anyone know what stand at cannock bus station the 154 will leave from? Cheers in advance :)
Stand 7 towards Hednesford
Stand 1 towards Wolverhampton
That means nothing to me lol. Stand 1, would that be the 68/70 stand?
Walk around and look at the stands, they have displays "Stand 1", etc. It's not difficult, lol. :)
Has anybody taken a Pic of the new 54/154 branding?
Nope but seen it and it looks pretty damn good!
Quote from: NXDom on April 27, 2015, 08:10:33 PM
Has anybody taken a Pic of the new 54/154 branding?
Would have today but didn't have time. I'll try early tomorrow.
Quote from: NXDom on April 27, 2015, 08:10:33 PM
Has anybody taken a Pic of the new 54/154 branding?
I can say I tried but my phone camera wasn't playing and it didn't seem to save anything. I need to check the settings and try again for a photo tomorrow. I've looked on Flickr and can't find anything.
The branding looks quite good. Could be better, but could be a lot worse. It is the same colour as the previous 54 branding and all of the branded buses are named.
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on April 27, 2015, 08:22:00 PM
I can say I tried but my phone camera wasn't playing and it didn't seem to save anything. I need to check the settings and try again for a photo tomorrow. I've looked on Flickr and can't find anything.
The branding looks quite good. Could be better, but could be a lot worse. It is the same colour as the previous 54 branding and all of the branded buses are named.
I would have hoped for branding something like what's used on the 6 but still looks alright
Quote from: NXDom on April 27, 2015, 08:10:33 PM
Has anybody taken a Pic of the new 54/154 branding?
I have been sent this photo of the front
Quote from: Tony on April 27, 2015, 08:32:59 PM
I have been sent this photo of the front
Are all buses to get free wi-fi?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 27, 2015, 08:37:57 PM
Are all buses to get free wi-fi?
Yes 849 is also fitted with wi-fi just in case any of 850-854 are unavailable :)
4139 is on the 82 today.
4017 may be swapped when it reaches Wolverhampton due to some defects the driver contacted garage over. I imagine this gives NX the opportunity to get rid of 4017.
Quote from: NXDom on April 28, 2015, 07:36:50 AM
4139 is on the 82 today.
4017 may be swapped when it reaches Wolverhampton due to some defects the driver contacted garage over. I imagine this gives NX the opportunity to get rid of 4017.
Not really. If its a minor defect then it could be easily fixed and be back out in the evening peak
Seems to be quite a few wn tridents on 1 lately. Maybe not noteworthy anymore?
Quote from: Nathan on April 27, 2015, 08:17:49 PM
Would have today but didn't have time. I'll try early tomorrow.
Pics on my flickr site https://www.flickr.com/photos/78104432@N07/
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on April 28, 2015, 06:29:42 PM
Pics on my flickr site https://www.flickr.com/photos/78104432@N07/
Cheers Tony :) I tried today but one left as I got there!
@Trident 4194 Tridents are still noteworthy! 4560 must have been a swap as it was on 59's this morning (4010 now in its place)
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 28, 2015, 06:21:01 PM
Seems to be quite a few wn tridents on 1 lately. Maybe not noteworthy anymore?
No still noteworthy, the 1 has branded hybrids and that is the main allocation, not tridents.
Quote from: NXDom on April 28, 2015, 06:43:53 PM
No still noteworthy, the 1 has branded hybrids and that is the main allocation, not tridents.
But there seems to be one on there most days as reported on here, so much that I don't call it noteworthy anymore
Quote from: John on April 28, 2015, 08:38:58 PM
But there seems to be one on there most days as reported on here, so much that I don't call it noteworthy anymore
Exactly, it likes saying Volvo b7rles on the 82 are noteworthy to put it into context
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 28, 2015, 08:48:33 PM
Exactly, it likes saying Volvo b7rles on the 82 are noteworthy to put it into context
Except B7RLE's are booked on the 82.....
Tridents on the 1 shall no longer be considered a 'Noteworthy Working' as they have appeared daily for at least the last week
Trident on WN4 displaying codsall it look odd but here a photo https://flic.kr/p/sn8YTx
thanks to
@Nathan for taking this shot
Quote from: NXDom on April 27, 2015, 08:10:33 PM
Has anybody taken a Pic of the new 54/154 branding?
I like
@Other Walsall Tony 's photos, they make the mediocre branding look quite good. I think the actual branding is a bit lighter than it appears in those photos though.
Managed to get some decent photos despite my phone being troublesome. It turns out the photos I took yesterday were not appearing but weren't very good anyway.
https://flic.kr/p/s5HvEr
https://flic.kr/p/s5Hp2M
There isnt a timetable for the 154 in either stand 1 or 7 at cannock bus station. Are Nx planning to put any up? As surely if no one knows it exists no one will use it and itll become a self fulfilling prophecy lol :)
there was nothing at any stop on monday evening - surely it needs publicising if the 154 is going to pick folk up
@WMT3000 the hybrid you saw on the 126 is a hybrid on a regular basis.
An unbranded hybrid quite regularly be allocated to 1/02 in the morning which goes back to garage about 10am. This then gets allocated to 126/22 which does the 785 school service then late night 126's. Technically should be a Trident though as thats what's booked but thought I'd let you know :)
There appears to be timetables in all the stops in Stafford, although the tourist office who are my usual source only have photocopies, not a proper leaflet. I would have though the station should also get a supply to attract anyone travelling by rail to get to i54..The 17.20 seemed to pick up a good load, but the 19.25 was empty at Chell Road.
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2012 was noted arriving empty to work the lunchtime 54E - not sure why it came round by the station though.
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How long turnover time does the 11 have in underhill?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 29, 2015, 08:26:45 PM
How long turnover time does the 11 have in underhill?
Looking at the timetable, 3 minutes!
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 29, 2015, 08:26:45 PM
How long turnover time does the 11 have in underhill?
The 11 gets a few minutes layover down at Underhill but not a place you'd want to stay for any longer than that unless you live there
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on April 29, 2015, 08:31:06 PM
The 11 gets a few minutes layover down at Underhill but not a place you'd want to stay for any longer than that unless you live there
So
@Matt keeps telling me. Apparently we are likely to get killed, not filling me with confidence
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 29, 2015, 08:33:36 PM
So @Matt keeps telling me. Apparently we are likely to get killed, not filling me with confidence
Don't think it will be that bad, but with buses being as frequent as every 7/8 mins, no need to hang around.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 29, 2015, 08:33:36 PM
So @Matt keeps telling me. Apparently we are likely to get killed, not filling me with confidence
"Killed" is a tad over exaggerated. Just a case of the minority of undesirables. On a different note, the 11 doesn't warrant a 7/8 minute frequency, not when you've got Travel Express as well.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on April 29, 2015, 08:39:58 PM
"Killed" is a tad over exaggerated. Just a case of the minority of undesirables. On a different note, the 11 doesn't warrant a 7/8 minute frequency, not when you've got Travel Express as well.
It makes you wonder where all the passengers come from on that route.
Am surprised that nobody has ever tried competition on the 59?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 29, 2015, 08:49:28 PM
It makes you wonder where all the passengers come from on that route.
Am surprised that nobody has ever tried competition on the 59?
Diamond did a few years ago, there USP was that it went on the hospital grounds.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 29, 2015, 08:49:28 PM
It makes you wonder where all the passengers come from on that route.
Am surprised that nobody has ever tried competition on the 59?
I think Diamond had a go on the 59 a couple of years back?
thanks
@NXDom @D10 have to say i don't remember that. as i said before, with all the competition on other routes in Wolverhampton, am surprised that Diamond didn't get the 59 to work?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 29, 2015, 09:00:50 PM
thanks @NXDom @D10 have to say i don't remember that. as i said before, with all the competition on other routes in Wolverhampton, am surprised that Diamond didn't get the 59 to work?
I can't remember 100% what the reason was to be honest mate.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on April 29, 2015, 08:31:06 PM
The 11 gets a few minutes layover down at Underhill but not a place you'd want to stay for any longer than that unless you live there
Is Underhill an actual name of a suburb or a street name? Ive always wondered where it is exactly. I know the general areas a bit dog rough. .
One of the main problems was that many passengers had NXWM passes or bought NXWM Daysavers so Diamond weren't very popular. Getting people to change from routine isn't easy. The route between Wednesfield and Wolverhampton had buses so frequently it was stupid. If Diamond were to timetable their buses two minutes in front of a NXWM bus, they would be two minutes behind another NXWM bus so they were never going to win or even make a small amount of money. (Although I don't know figures, they would have most likely stayed on the route if it made a decent profit.)
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 29, 2015, 09:00:50 PM
thanks @NXDom @D10 have to say i don't remember that. as i said before, with all the competition on other routes in Wolverhampton, am surprised that Diamond didn't get the 59 to work?
Think this is where I come in ;)
Diamond ran from May 2011-26th October 2012. Started every 6 minutes Mon-Sat then every 10 on Sundays (Very similar concept to the 301 where they flood the route with too many buses!) Started with B7RLE's on loan from Redditch (Ironically this batch are now at Tividale). In Jan 2012, they split it up to the 59 (Every 15 in the Week and Every Hour on Sundays which was pointless as NX were every 8-9 mins on Sundays) and 59H which served New Cross Hospital (Every 30 mins Mon-Sat). This is where they started using MPD's and Solo's. Mostly Pensioners who used the 59H (As it replaced the link from the Ashmore Park loop to New Cross Grounds lost by the 28)
Diamond introduced a service but NX fought back by putting out a promotional return and an extra bus. Problem is many on the route have Travel cards. Infact, many will let the 69/89 past to waitfor a 59 (Towards City) and that's the same company! The Lichfield Road/Wednesfield Road corridor has an adequate number of buses serving it (11 per hour from the 59, 4 from the 69/89 combined then 1 an hour off the 68). You also have 2 an hour up till New Cross on the 28 (NX also)
Maybe Arriva will try to flood the route with buses?
@Bob, estate name is Underhill, Suburb name is Fallings Park (which incorperates part of Long Knowle and Bush bury also)
And for the record, its not as bad as everyone suggests. Everyone assumes trouble at the sight of teenagers!
Quote from: Bob on April 29, 2015, 09:19:59 PM
Is Underhill an actual name of a suburb or a street name? Ive always wondered where it is exactly. I know the general areas a bit dog rough. .
Its the name of an estate just off the Cannock Road. It's the last bit of Wolvertrampton before crossing the border at Westcroft
Quote from: Nathan on April 29, 2015, 09:44:09 PM
Think this is where I come in ;)
Diamond introduced a service but NX fought back by putting out a promotional return and an extra bus. Problem is many on the route have Travel cards. Infact, many will let the 69/89 past to waitfor a 59 (Towards City) and that's the same company! The Lichfield Road/Wednesfield Road corridor has an adequate number of buses serving it (11 per hour from the 59, 4 from the 69/89 combined then 1 an hour off the 68). You also have 2 an hour up till New Cross on the 28 (NX also)
Maybe Arriva will try to flood the route with buses?
Thanks
@Nathan surprised that the 1 or is it 501 that travel express run and the 11 also operated by them make any money. I would have thought those routes had less patronage than the 59!
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 29, 2015, 09:49:40 PM
Thanks @Nathan surprised that the 1 or is it 501 that travel express run and the 11 also operated by them make any money. I would have thought those routes had less patronage than the 59!
Travel Express offer cheaper single, return and weekly tickets compared to NX which is their USP
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 29, 2015, 09:49:40 PM
Thanks @Nathan surprised that the 1 or is it 501 that travel express run and the 11 also operated by them make any money. I would have thought those routes had less patronage than the 59!
On those routes, many buy tickets so catch the first one that comes along!
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on April 29, 2015, 09:52:53 PM
Travel Express offer cheaper single, return and weekly tickets compared to NX which is their USP
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Well its certainly not there buses. ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Nathan on April 29, 2015, 07:06:47 PM
@WMT3000 the hybrid you saw on the 126 is a hybrid on a regular basis.
An unbranded hybrid quite regularly be allocated to 1/02 in the morning which goes back to garage about 10am. This then gets allocated to 126/22 which does the 785 school service then late night 126's. Technically should be a Trident though as thats what's booked but thought I'd let you know :)
Cheers nathan. To be honest it's the first time I've seen a hybrid on the 126 myself so wasn't 100% sure whether or not it was a regular occurrence. I thought they might be less unusual in the evening although in the past they've always eluded me! I'm keen to get a few more photos of hybrids on there before the 126 gets new buses so the info's very useful, thanks. I'll check this board from now on on the off chance if I'm in town at the right time. :)
arriva tried with the 560 replacement (extended 19 service) but only the odd few used it along the section of route between peacock avenue and wolverhampton bus station
when is 598 on the 82 due in dudley
@Rhys S 5401 on the 126 comes off a school board, happens most days, 5402 is on there aswell, also off a school board.
On the 54 & 154 short journeys to i54 is it e200 that operate?
usually its a decker that operates short 54 workings, as it goes onto a school am, and comes off a school pm. interestingly, i spotted a b7rle on a early afternoon working from stafford last 2 days
Quote from: mranon on May 01, 2015, 11:10:36 AM
usually its a decker that operates short 54 workings, as it goes onto a school am, and comes off a school pm. interestingly, i spotted a b7rle on a early afternoon working from stafford last 2 days
Booked as a B7RLE. does the extra afternoon shift change trips then does the afternoon 794 school service
Has anyone been on the 54/154 since they started, i was planing to go to stafford on the 54 tuesday
Quote from: Chris2301 on May 01, 2015, 09:20:57 PM
Has anyone been on the 54/154 since they started, i was planing to go to stafford on the 54 tuesday
I've been on both routes. Shocking, I know... ::) 54 seems to be doing well - had some nice loadings, but 154 is a bit empty after the i54. I helped the driver to get through and out of Stafford town.
Quote from: P419 EJW on May 01, 2015, 09:28:01 PM
I've been on both routes. Shocking, I know... ::) 54 seems to be doing well - had some nice loadings, but 154 is a bit empty after the i54. I helped the driver to get through and out of Stafford town.
Not surprising its got nobody using it. Theres not even a timetable at either Hednesford or cannock bus station. Howthe hell are ppeople supposed to know it even exists?
Quote from: Bob on May 01, 2015, 09:31:27 PM
Not surprising its got nobody using it. Theres not even a timetable at either Hednesford or cannock bus station. Howthe hell are ppeople supposed to know it even exists?
Yeah, I agree. The driver kept giving out the timetable leaflets to the passengers when they either board or alight. I found it quite amusing to find out that Stand 1 in Stafford bus station the 54 timetable was basically put on the board without any care, it isn't nice and straight...
Interestingly the driver of a 154 at cannock on Wednesday said there was a timetable put in stand 1 at cannock bus station, but arriva drivers had took it down. Wonder if there's any truth in that.....
Quote from: Bob on May 01, 2015, 10:21:10 PM
Interestingly the driver of a 154 at cannock on Wednesday said there was a timetable put in stand 1 at cannock bus station, but arriva drivers had took it down. Wonder if there's any truth in that.....
Arriva have the 68/70 (2 to 3 buses an hour) to Wolverhampton how can they be scared of national express 154 once an hour. though arriva doesn't seem invest in these routes normally get darts/various wright volvo vehicles. Whilst nx put on e200 64 plates. I would rather get the nx 154/54 as their vehicles are cleaner, more modern and probably more reliable than arriva. only time will tell what will happen but i believe the 54 is here to stay, the 154 needs more publicly in cannock and Hednesford areas
Quote from: Chris2301 on May 01, 2015, 10:29:58 PM
Arriva have the 68/70 (2 to 3 buses an hour) to Wolverhampton how can they be scared of national express 154 once an hour. though arriva doesn't seem invest in these routes normally get darts/various wright volvo vehicles. Whilst nx put on e200 64 plates. I would rather get the nx 154/54 as their vehicles are cleaner, more modern and probably more reliable than arriva. only time will tell what will happen but i believe the 54 is here to stay, the 154 needs more publicly in cannock and Hednesford areas
The 54 could potentially finish off the 76. Especially now its permanently operated with old cadets...the 68/70 doesnt get darts anymore considering cannock only has two mpds left approximately. Cannock also no longer operate any volvo single deckers either. The 70 gets mainly commanders. Good if theyre a 56 plate ex Leicester, crap if they're an ex route 1 un refurbished example. Cadets make a very occasional appearance and the odd decker has been on there recently. However there are two deckers permanently on the 74 now and one seems to be wasted on the truncated 75.if theres a full complement of deckers out the fourth tends to be on the pye greens. Maybe this is in case one of the staffords breaks down, so that theres one handy locally.
75 back to full route from Tuesday 5 May
Quote from: williamposh on May 02, 2015, 07:25:32 AM
75 back to full route from Tuesday 5 May
Realised they ballsed up then?
Wheres it say that anywhere?
Quote from: Bob on May 02, 2015, 09:02:24 AM
Wheres it say that anywhere?
On the Arriva website. http://www.arrivabus.co.uk/midlands/updates/service-75-weve-listened/
Just spotted it on their fb page as well. There were loads of complaints re the 74. Its true what people were saying about people standing on stairs etc due to the deckers struggling to cope. Least theyve seen sense. Im on 154 now just left cannock nobody got on at the bus station sadly. Are they just going to hope for word of mouth with this route? As I say no timetables on any bus station/stop so you wouldn't know it was there!
Quote from: Chris2301 on May 01, 2015, 10:29:58 PM
Arriva have the 68/70 (2 to 3 buses an hour) to Wolverhampton how can they be scared of national express 154 once an hour. though arriva doesn't seem invest in these routes normally get darts/various wright volvo vehicles. Whilst nx put on e200 64 plates. I would rather get the nx 154/54 as their vehicles are cleaner, more modern and probably more reliable than arriva. only time will tell what will happen but i believe the 54 is here to stay, the 154 needs more publicly in cannock and Hednesford areas
They ought to be scared, there's probably more chances of NX being on time and more to the point actually turning up!
Quote from: Bob on May 01, 2015, 10:21:10 PM
Interestingly the driver of a 154 at cannock on Wednesday said there was a timetable put in stand 1 at cannock bus station, but arriva drivers had took it down. Wonder if there's any truth in that.....
Who owns the bus station? Arriva or Staffs County Council?
If it's Staffs CC, surely they have the final say, not Arriva.
Is there any National Express stickers on bus stops in the Staffordshire area?
Quote from: Westy on May 02, 2015, 01:24:06 PM
Who owns the bus station? Arriva or Staffs County Council?
If it's Staffs CC, surely they have the final say, not Arriva.
Is there any National Express stickers on bus stops in the Staffordshire area?
I believe it is Cannock Chase District Council who run the bus station, so hopefully they can arrange a timetable board that is vandal proof.
There is a timetable board with casing ! Showing the arriva timetable and select. But no nx. The nx one that was allegedly there was just stuck to the perspex, like arriva do with the odd poster.
Interestingly when we got to hollybush there was an inbound 154 with a 70 hot on its heels, the 154 had more passengers on board! That said it only had about eight in total.
Are the 54 and 154 £3 the whole length or is that just outside the West Midlands county? Can the Black Country travelcards be used within WM?
£3 is full flat fare to any stop after wm boundary. Black country faresaver valid til coven i think on 54 and whole 154
Quote from: Chris2301 on May 03, 2015, 02:26:59 PM
£3 is full flat fare to any stop after wm boundary. Black country faresaver valid til coven i think on 54 and whole 154
Only regionals are valid on the full route, and daysavers :)
Quote from: NXDom on May 03, 2015, 02:38:29 PM
Only regionals are valid on the full route, and daysavers :)
Black Country passes are valid on the
full 154 to Hednesfield but ONLY to Coven on the 54.
Regional Passes and daysavers are valid on both the 54/154 througout.
Shame the Faresavers couldn't be just valid to Penkridge.
How far is Coven from the terminus used for the 3 service, as they could've terminated the Fordhouses route at Coven years ago?
Dunno why they have to be so strict with a terminus, because of a county boundary.
Quote from: Westy on May 03, 2015, 06:28:39 PM
Shame the Faresavers couldn't be just valid to Penkridge.
How far is Coven from the terminus used for the 3 service, as they could've terminated the Fordhouses route at Coven years ago?
Dunno why they have to be so strict with a terminus, because of a county boundary.
Coven and Fordhouses are about five minutes apart on the bus, probably 20 - 30 minutes on foot. I did think the same thing but there's barely enough demand for the 3 services that go there now
Quote from: Westy on May 03, 2015, 06:28:39 PM
Shame the Faresavers couldn't be just valid to Penkridge.
How far is Coven from the terminus used for the 3 service, as they could've terminated the Fordhouses route at Coven years ago?
Dunno why they have to be so strict with a terminus, because of a county boundary.
covens about 5 mins drive from 3 terminus, pass m54 island straight up a449 to a double roundabout . straight over first roundabout and then first exit on the second
Is there a diversion in perton on the 10 today, due to perton carnival?
I take it that 853/4 have had their 54 branding changed to the 54/154 branding?
@John Yeah, all of 850-854 have had new 54/154 branding
Quote from: John on May 04, 2015, 02:48:39 PM
I take it that 853/4 have had their 54 branding changed to the 54/154 branding?
Yes. The names have been retained.
Photos of 853 are here:
https://flic.kr/p/s5HvEr
https://flic.kr/p/s5Hp2M
Thanks
@Alex &
@NXWM Spectra I also notice that the rear branding of 853 is different from the picture that Tony got of 851.
Does anyone know if there is just those 2 variants or does each Enviro200 have a different rear branding?
Also, who knows which B7RLEs have the 10 ticket branding? The only one I have seen is 2071
Quote from: John on May 04, 2015, 02:59:56 PM
Thanks @Alex & @NXWM Spectra
I also notice that the rear branding of 853 is different from the picture that Tony got of 851.
Does anyone know if there is just those 2 variants or does each Enviro200 have a different rear branding?
Also, who knows which B7RLEs have the 10 ticket branding? The only one I have seen is 2071
They're all the same with regards to 54/154 branding.
2069, 2070 and 2071 are 10 ticket branded.
Hope that helps
@John
no cant remember which, but at least one has a different branding covering the rear window, think it is about tickets
Thanks
@Ashley 60171 that's great
@mranon That must be 851 (see Tony's pic). 853 has yellow rear branding
(https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wmbusphotos.com%2FNXWM%2F0501-0830%2Ftwm0851.150502.jpg&hash=7f77a60c6e8064d7c2c465f4af122aa5d558e976)
Quote from: Matt on May 05, 2015, 05:07:01 PM
Spectra on the 256 apparently
See Noteworthy's thread. Departed Wolverhampton around 5pm. Came into the station NIS then went out as a 256
Quote from: Matt on May 05, 2015, 06:11:43 PM
No as the person who told me about it caught it to Wolves at that time.
4002 went onto that running board at 11:30 and has been on there since, so no, not a swap at 17:00
ZF 45xx Tiredent on the 3 today. Out on 3/4 tonight. 1951 and 2251 3 ex Castlecroft
@Rhys S 4324 on 82 NOT NOTEWORTHY AT ALL!!!!!!!!
Quote from: NXDom on May 11, 2015, 06:07:09 PM
@Rhys S 4324 on 82 NOT NOTEWORTHY AT ALL!!!!!!!!
Several boards are booked as Tridents.
few B7 on WN27
WN 5408 (1 Branded) on the last trip NX 82 from Wolverhampton to Dudley. Spectra 4005 failed on the bus station.
Saw the 154 leaving cannock just after 6pm, completely passengerless sadly :-(
Why is it that there is only 1 route that goes to wolverhampton (#126) ?! Solihull has many routes which serve it so do Walsall, Sutton Coldfield, Dudley.
Quote from: BusFan on May 11, 2015, 08:52:59 PM
Why is it that there is only 1 route that goes to wolverhampton (#126) ?! Solihull has many routes which serve it so do Walsall, Sutton Coldfield, Dudley.
Do you mean from Birmingham (I presume). The 79 used to run to Birmingham down Soho Rd but was cut back to West Brom. Many use the Tram or train from Wolverhampton. The bus takes a lot longer so not as many use it all the way to B'ham.
Quote from: Nathan on May 11, 2015, 08:55:30 PM
Do you mean from Birmingham (I presume). The 79 used to run to Birmingham down Soho Rd but was cut back to West Brom.
Presumably NX are keen for people to use the Metro, hence why you only have the 126!
Quote from: BusFan on May 11, 2015, 08:52:59 PM
Why is it that there is only 1 route that goes to wolverhampton (#126) ?! Solihull has many routes which serve it so do Walsall, Sutton Coldfield, Dudley.
Yes, Solihull has many routes from there to Birmingham, but any 'sensible' person wanting to travel between the two would only normally use the 37 or 957.
Routes like the 5, 31, 70; 72 & 73 only serve both places for operating convenience on the basis that people in the middle of the route need to go to both places, so it is easier to serve them with a through route than seperate routes to both Birmingham & Solihull
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 11, 2015, 08:57:59 PM
Presumably NX are keen for people to use the Metro, hence why you only have the 126!
To be fair, I always understood the termination of the 79 at West Bromwich had more to do with the difficulties of keeping to time on such a long route. Hopefully the 126 won't suffer the same fate and be cut in 2, the upcoming Birchley Island roadworks may be a nightmare though on the 126.
Quote from: D10 on May 11, 2015, 09:13:04 PM
To be fair, I always understood the termination of the 79 at West Bromwich had more to do with the difficulties of keeping to time on such a long route. Hopefully the 126 won't suffer the same fate and be cut in 2, the upcoming Birchley Island roadworks may be a nightmare though on the 126.
Well yes the Soho Road always caused problems on the 79, but then it had always seemed to cope in the past. I remember when the 74/9 were every 6 minutes on a Saturday, now that was chaos, buses everywhere!
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 11, 2015, 09:17:00 PM
Well yes the Soho Road always caused problems on the 79, but then it had always seemed to cope in the past. I remember when the 74/9 were every 6 minutes on a Saturday, now that was chaos, buses everywhere!
Surely the 79 would get to Wolverhampton quicker, than a 93 minute journey on the 126? I mean, Bitmingham to West Brom, in off-peak hours, seems quite bearable & relatively quick.
Quote from: clayderman on May 11, 2015, 09:49:58 PM
Surely the 79 would get to Wolverhampton quicker, than a 93 minute journey on the 126? I mean, Bitmingham to West Brom, in off-peak hours, seems quite bearable & relatively quick.
As the off-peak 74 takes 38 minutes Birmingham to West Bromwich and the off-peak 79 takes 59 minutes West Bromwich to Wolverhampton - No it wouldn't
I thought it was a topic worth mentioning after a friend asked which bus goes to Solihull .......... ! Then I remembered only 1 goes to Wolverhampton from the Centre !
Nice to see it's got people talking although i would think 1 journey on the 126 would be better than 2 bus journeys but then again i believe the 126 dips down into Bearwood before heading up North buts it's an interesting thought.
Quote from: Tony on May 11, 2015, 09:57:57 PM
As the off-peak 74 takes 38 minutes Birmingham to West Bromwich and the off-peak 79 takes 59 minutes West Bromwich to Wolverhampton - No it wouldn't
Fair enough... Then again, there's always the Metro. Haha! :D
Quote from: clayderman on May 12, 2015, 01:02:07 AM
Fair enough... Then again, there's always the Metro. Haha! :D
Or the train
@Liam, 2007 was peak time extra board 59/14. If a Trident isn't available in time for it to depart garage at 15:03 then a B7RLE or Spectra usually get allocated.
Quote from: Nathan on May 12, 2015, 10:02:02 PM
@Liam, 2007 was peak time extra board 59/14. If a Trident isn't available in time for it to depart garage at 15:03 then a B7RLE or Spectra usually get allocated.
Sorry my automatic reaction when i see something in the afternoon that isn't a TRID or a E400h i post. My bad
@Nathan mentions two Tiredents being on WN4 today. I'm assuming thats where the one thats on the 2251 3 from Castlecroft has come from
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on May 12, 2015, 10:45:46 PM
@Nathan mentions two Tiredents being on WN4 today. I'm assuming thats where the one thats on the 2251 3 from Castlecroft has come from
The two ones booked from garage were 4565 (4/06) and 4560 (4/08) however, I was told 4537 was on there (not sure how true this is).
Guna have a ride on 54/154 tomorrow see how many people use it
Quote from: Chris2301 on May 12, 2015, 11:03:23 PM
Guna have a ride on 54/154 tomorrow see how many people use it
Must admit I'm toying with the idea of Penkridge tomorrow for the market, but I've got to go to CEX in Walsall to return a faulty DVD first.
Normally I would've gone from Bloxwich to Cannock & swopped to a 75, & seeing Arriva has put a leaflet through the doors of the 1 / 2 /2A households giving you £2 off an Arriva Day Ticket, that would've have been the clincher for me personally.
Seeing I've got to return this DVD, do I buy the Arriva ticket first, go to Walsall, then return on a 1 / 2 back to Cannock then a 75 or buy a NX Daysaver instead of using my bus pass to Walsall & go to Penkridge via Wolves & the 54?
Quote from: Westy on May 12, 2015, 11:36:41 PM
Must admit I'm toying with the idea of Penkridge tomorrow for the market, but I've got to go to CEX in Walsall to return a faulty DVD first.
Normally I would've gone from Bloxwich to Cannock & swopped to a 75, & seeing Arriva has put a leaflet through the doors of the 1 / 2 /2A households giving you £2 off an Arriva Day Ticket, that would've have been the clincher for me personally.
Seeing I've got to return this DVD, do I buy the Arriva ticket first, go to Walsall, then return on a 1 / 2 back to Cannock then a 75 or buy a NX Daysaver instead of using my bus pass to Walsall & go to Penkridge via Wolves & the 54?
Im leaving Stourbridge going to stafford to brownhills to birmingham back to stourbridge tomorrow haha
Hi guys, me and a friend of mine always see this line going across the roof of a bus upstairs we've only seen this on the 126, 255 and we've always wondered what it was. 4582 is the last one I remember seeing this on. Also what happened to the branding on the 126, I remember years ago the 126 had a purple branding on the side of the bus?
Quote from: Trident4590 on May 13, 2015, 03:43:18 AM
Hi guys, me and a friend of mine always see this line going across the roof of a bus upstairs we've only seen this on the 126, 255 and we've always wondered what it was. 4582 is the last one I remember seeing this on. Also what happened to the branding on the 126, I remember years ago the 126 had a purple branding on the side of the bus?
The 126 branded Tiredents have been refurbished and repainted red/white. As for the line on the ceiling, I think its a streak of water but not s leak, I initially thought it was sellotape.
4323 (Trident not Tiredent) on the 3 today. 0940 from Castlecroft
Edit
Can anyone confirm out of curiosity whether RB 3/07 is still a late board. If so, which B7RLE has replaced it? Thanks
Faresaver to Walsall, sorted the Dvd out, had a Daysaver off 4009 & now on way via 529 to Wolves hopefully for the 11am 54.
Is a trident normal for an 82? Its been ages since i been up wolves, it used to be spectras and mercs when i was last up here
Quote from: Chris2301 on May 13, 2015, 11:00:12 AM
Is a trident normal for an 82? Its been ages since i been up wolves, it used to be spectras and mercs when i was last up here
It is normal now
4005 final day in service today, out on the 33 all day if anyone wants a last ride/photo
The DVLA is at Bilston Bus Station, with a van saying Traffic Enforcement. Is that anything to do with buses?
Quote from: Chris2301 on May 13, 2015, 11:34:01 AM
The DVLA is at Bilston Bus Station, with a van saying Traffic Enforcement. Is that anything to do with buses?
I think it's the DVSA (VOSA) who do the bus stuff. Obviously the drivers licence is from the DVLA, but I was under the impression it's the DVSA who enforce and inspect.
Quote from: Chris2301 on May 13, 2015, 11:00:12 AM
Is a trident normal for an 82? Its been ages since i been up wolves, it used to be spectras and mercs when i was last up here
Yes, There are at least two that are booked as Tridents with others booked Spectra's
Am I right in saying that the 1630 81 off wolverhampton should be 244
Quote from: the trainbasher on May 15, 2015, 03:32:56 PM
Am I right in saying that the 1630 81 off wolverhampton should be 244
Yes, it should be. :)
Quote from: P419 EJW on May 15, 2015, 03:36:14 PM
Yes, it should be. :)
Cheers - fingers crossed it hits Dudley on time : )
On board video of 244
NXWM 244 P244AAP: https://youtu.be/pg7oAJUno34
244 at Merry Hill
http://www.busphotography.co.uk/picture.php?/9692/
Can anyone please explain to me why whilst the rest of the NXWM fleet seems to be getting upgraded, the 126 buses remain absolutely crud - well, not as bad as some of the tut found on the 11 but still, it's a long route and you would have thought they get some ADL Enviro 400s on that route by now.
@Typhoon2000 Good things, as they say, come to those who wait!
Quote from: Matt on May 16, 2015, 08:31:51 PM
Unless it's a diamond bus in which case it just doesn't come
Or comes....falling apart!!
Quote from: the trainbasher on May 16, 2015, 08:40:01 PM
Or comes....falling apart!!
or comes... but it doesn't accept bus passes and you don't any change :'( :P
Quote from: Typhoon2000 on May 16, 2015, 08:19:15 PM
Can anyone please explain to me why whilst the rest of the NXWM fleet seems to be getting upgraded, the 126 buses remain absolutely crud - well, not as bad as some of the tut found on the 11 but still, it's a long route and you would have thought they get some ADL Enviro 400s on that route by now.
Whilst in no way disagreeing with this sentiment, the extremely frequent and busy Bristol Rd can consider itself even more hard done by. Nothing new for 13 years and that batch didn't last all that long.
The 126 is effectively 2 routes rolled into one - from what I've seen there aren't many through passengers beyond Dudley.
Quote from: Mike K on May 16, 2015, 09:15:57 PM
Whilst in no way disagreeing with this sentiment, the extremely frequent and busy Bristol Rd can consider itself even more hard done by. Nothing new for 13 years and that batch didn't last all that long.
The 126 is effectively 2 routes rolled into one - from what I've seen there aren't many through passengers beyond Dudley.
I agree but I don't think NX could do that just because it would really kind of mess the route up in a way, really bad way to explain but still.
Quote from: Mike K on May 16, 2015, 09:15:57 PM
Whilst in no way disagreeing with this sentiment, the extremely frequent and busy Bristol Rd can consider itself even more hard done by. Nothing new for 13 years and that batch didn't last all that long.
The 126 is effectively 2 routes rolled into one - from what I've seen there aren't many through passengers beyond Dudley.
I remember seeing a picture of an MMC displaying 126 so maybe their is hope although that may have been just for the photo although I don't think there is high enough demand for a trip to Wolverhampton for NXWM to warrant an upgrade on the route or include more buses going there. I could be wrong however
Quote from: NXDom on May 16, 2015, 09:19:54 PM
I agree but I don't think NX could do that just because it would really kind of mess the route up in a way, really bad way to explain but still.
Not necessarily suggesting they split it NXDom, there are loads of routes that are effectively 2 or more combined - just pointing out that the argument that it's a long route so should therefore have better buses isn't necessarily as applicable as to some routes that have passengers travelling most of the length of a route.
Quote from: Matt on May 16, 2015, 09:17:48 PM
4006 on the 59
As i said in the NW thread, 'If not swapped it would be a late night bus..... It was not swapped. Still on now as i type! Very rare sight
Or it does come but then gets wiped out by NXWM (a la number 9)...
4568 on WN59 in a RTC by the manhatten pub by the lights
hit in to a car smashing the back window
The 16.15 departure from Stafford to Wolverhampton has around 20 people on departure nice healthy loading
Unbranded E200 848 filling on the 54. Seen in Wolverhampton Bus Station at 17:04.
4002 on the 59 as a change bus for 4568 which had a little prang with a car this morning.
4559 on the 1. Seen on Pipers Row at 17:09 going towards Dudley
4554 on the 4.
These are workings that I feel are still noteworthy but aren't particularly rare.
Quote from: Chris2301 on May 18, 2015, 04:34:48 PM
The 16.15 departure from Stafford to Wolverhampton has around 20 people on departure nice healthy loading
It depends how many were pensioners lol.
The 154 isnt picking up. There's a sealed timetable unit at the stop at cannock bus station which has Arriva and Select in it so theres surely absolutely no excuse for there not being a 154 one!
Quote from: Bob on May 18, 2015, 10:04:10 PM
It depends how many were pensioners lol.
The 154 isnt picking up. There's a sealed timetable unit at the stop at cannock bus station which has Arriva and Select in it so theres surely absolutely no excuse for there not being a 154 one!
Actually, you'd be surprised how many are not pensioners. Many are students. The service has really taken off.
Quote from: Bob on May 18, 2015, 10:04:10 PM
It depends how many were pensioners lol.
The 154 isnt picking up. There's a sealed timetable unit at the stop at cannock bus station which has Arriva and Select in it so theres surely absolutely no excuse for there not being a 154 one!
4 pensions rest students. Pendeford business the 54 left full and standing to Wolverhampton. I will try the 154 on thursday
Quote from: Nathan on May 18, 2015, 10:08:34 PM
Actually, you'd be surprised how many are not pensioners.
Your right there
@Nathan i believe nx 54 is picking up nicely. i will report the loading on full 154 journey thursday. The pensioners weresay how nice and clean the buses were and how the WN drivers were polite
Quote from: Chris2301 on May 18, 2015, 10:11:04 PM
Your right there @Nathan i believe nx 54 is picking up nicely. i will report the loading on full 154 journey thursday. The pensioners weresay how nice and clean the buses were and how the WN drivers were polite
Many of the drivers have been giving leaflets out to curious passengers at bus stops along the route who i presume are waiting for the 70.
Lets hope arriva feel the pressure then theyve had a monopoly too long! Maybe the54 actually will kill off the 76 then!
Quote from: Bob on May 18, 2015, 10:27:46 PM
Lets hope arriva feel the pressure then theyve had a monopoly too long! Maybe the54 actually will kill off the 76 then!
Its cheaper to go to Stafford by NX as its £4.20 daysaver whilst its £6.50 on Arriva but with Arriva you can go near enough Wales but infrequent service is a draw back. Whilst with nx you can get to Lemington Spa on the bus from Stafford but that would be at least a 4 hour bus ride ish
Personally I think the 154 might be withdrawn and the buses from that could make the 54 every 30 mins or replace some B6's, I mean it doesn't look like the 154 is getting any healthy loadings
With the right promotional work the 154 could be a hit!
nx need to push the 154. i had a ride on it myself yesterday, and a very annoyed couple who missed the 70 were talking to the driver explaining they thought the 70 is running early trying to beat nx. arriva must be worried as they tieing up posters to every stop on both the 10/54/154 routes.
maybe an idea would be to knock the hednesford bit off. info needs to be put up at the stops asap. i think the original 54 to bilbrook was a success more due to the drivers on there telling passengers. maybe nx could try a non i54 wolves to cannock service (extend 11 maybe)
i also wonder whether there is a need for every trip to serve pendeford business park as the amount of buses going in and out of there is rediculous. at night its just pointless
Quote from: mranon on May 19, 2015, 08:11:29 AM
nx need to push the 154. i had a ride on it myself yesterday, and a very annoyed couple who missed the 70 were talking to the driver explaining they thought the 70 is running early trying to beat nx. arriva must be worried as they tieing up posters to every stop on both the 10/54/154 routes.
maybe an idea would be to knock the hednesford bit off. info needs to be put up at the stops asap. i think the original 54 to bilbrook was a success more due to the drivers on there telling passengers. maybe nx could try a non i54 wolves to cannock service (extend 11 maybe)
i also wonder whether there is a need for every trip to serve pendeford business park as the amount of buses going in and out of there is rediculous. at night its just pointless
Nothing will happen to either route for a year. NX have the contract for 12 months and as one of the sponsors is the i54 they will all serve there.
Quote from: Tony on May 19, 2015, 09:11:04 AM
Nothing will happen to either route for a year. NX have the contract for 12 months and as one of the sponsors is the i54 they will all serve there.
All this still seems to me to be completely wrong...........to talk about a route destroying another when one is commercial and one subsidised leaves a nasty taste in my mouth.
Allow the 54/154 to carry passengers only to and from the i54 I could understand,but otherwise.......
Quote from: arrifirststage on May 19, 2015, 09:58:07 AM
All this still seems to me to be completely wrong...........to talk about a route destroying another when one is commercial and one subsidised leaves a nasty taste in my mouth.
Allow the 54/154 to carry passengers only to and from the i54 I could understand,but otherwise.......
When it was put out to tender, the 54 was a completely diiferent route to the 76 with the 76 then being a quicker, direct service between Wolverhampton & Stafford. It is Arriva themselves that have slowed the 76 down with various diversions and even timetabled the 76 to be three minutes behind the 54 between Penkridge & Stafford after the tender was awarded.
The following vehicles are likely to finish in the next few weeks, get them while you can!
586, 598, 632, 669, 4001, 4004 & 4015
still tony, i cant see the need for these services to serve pendeford business park much after 20:30pm every trip. I hope nx really don't sit back and not push these services. for example, putting some info in bus stops, especially in cheslyn hay and featherstone might help.
Quote from: Tony on May 19, 2015, 08:24:22 PM
The following vehicles are likely to finish in the next few weeks, get them while you can!
586, 598, 632, 669, 4001, 4004 & 4015
@Tony How many more Spectra's will be left in service and roughly how much longer do the remainder have left in service. Never really been a fan of the B6's but cannot be many more of them left in service either I guess.
Quote from: Squiz1971 on May 20, 2015, 12:09:57 PM
@Tony How many more Spectra's will be left in service and roughly how much longer do the remainder have left in service. Never really been a fan of the B6's but cannot be many more of them left in service either I guess.
The Spectra's left after these withdrawals will be:
4002
4006
4009
4010
4016
4017
4018
4020
4021
So 9 Spectra's left. Their time really is coming to an end.
Quote from: Nathan on May 20, 2015, 12:45:40 PM
The Spectra's left after these withdrawals will be:
4002
4006
4009
4010
4016
4017
4018
4020
4021
So 9 Spectra's left. Their time really is coming to an end.
Cheers for the Info Nathan they are a good bus lets hope they go on to other operators & not PVS or maybe 1 could be preserved you never know what will happen in the near future
4001 is the first low floor in the Uk isnt it?
Surely it should be preserved on that basis?
Quote from: Westy on May 20, 2015, 07:57:28 PM
4001 is the first low floor in the Uk isnt it?
Surely it should be preserved on that basis?
Common misconception...
Quote from: Westy on May 20, 2015, 07:57:28 PM
4001 is the first low floor in the Uk isnt it?
Surely it should be preserved on that basis?
My understanding is that an Excel, a B6, a Merc, 3 Spectras and maybe a Dart are being looked at for preservation.
Quote from: Westy on May 20, 2015, 07:57:28 PM
4001 is the first low floor in the Uk isnt it?
Surely it should be preserved on that basis?
It was infact R222 AJP of Abus,Bristol who beat TWM into service.
I'm told 4001 will be preserved, although i cannot say whether that is 100 percent official.
Quote from: Matt on May 20, 2015, 08:11:46 PM
Are you sure? Google is not giving me anything when I search "R222 RJP"
@Matt The reg is ''R222 AJP'', not ''R222 RJP''
Quote from: Matt on May 20, 2015, 08:11:46 PM
Are you sure? Google is not giving me anything when I search "R222 RJP"
That is because Nathan has one letter incorrect, A-Bus is owned by Mr A J Peters, so the reg is R222 AJP.
They both entered service on the same day, R222 AJP one hour before R1 NEG which was still being used to show off!
@Alex In response to your post in the noteworthy workings thread, Since the 26th April changes, an extra bus has been added to the 4. This board (4/08) has quite regulary been a Trident of late despite still being booked down as a B7RLE. 4555 was allocated from garage this morning.
4016, 45xx, 4006, 4021, 4557, 4009 and 4015 on 82
4010, 586, 633, 640 on 11
Quote from: 1707 on May 21, 2015, 02:32:29 PM
4016, 45xx, 4006, 4021, 4557, 4009 and 4015 on 82
4010, 586, 633, 640 on 11
4591
4018 on 79. Just seen at wolves 16.30
Quote from: 1707 on May 21, 2015, 04:33:21 PM
4018 on 79. Just seen at wolves 16.30
Mentioned in Noteworthy Workings.
4548 on WN1.
Where is 244 today then?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 21, 2015, 05:28:38 PM
Where is 244 today then?
244 was on the 32 today, I caught it this morning.
Just watching the news and then a Spectra and a Hybrid just drove into shot, quite the mood lifter.
Quote from: BusFan on May 21, 2015, 06:46:30 PM
Just watching the news and then a Spectra and a Hybrid just drove into shot, quite the mood lifter.
See 'Buses On TV' thread.
Anyway,, 4535 was on the 4 today and i was told there was a Spectra on there today.
632 is now to survive, Wolverhampton have MoT'd it! 634 has come off instead. 669 also won't be seen in service again
4004 is on the 15:00 & 17:30 82 from Wolverhampton. It is unlikely to come out again although could possible next Tuesday & Wednesday if required
Quote from: Tony on May 22, 2015, 02:03:50 PM
632 is now to survive, Wolverhampton have MoT'd it! 634 has come off instead. 669 also won't be seen in service again
4004 is on the 15:00 & 17:30 82 from Wolverhampton. It is unlikely to come out again although could possible next Tuesday & Wednesday if required
Brilliant my bus back from school
Quote from: Tony on May 22, 2015, 02:03:50 PM
632 is now to survive, Wolverhampton have MoT'd it! 634 has come off instead. 669 also won't be seen in service again
4004 is on the 15:00 & 17:30 82 from Wolverhampton. It is unlikely to come out again although could possible next Tuesday & Wednesday if required
Are B6's expected to stay for another year then? Surely they won't be here this time next year?
Quote from: Nathan on May 22, 2015, 06:30:48 PM
Are B6's expected to stay for another year then? Surely they won't be here this time next year?
They can't be in service past 31st Dec 2015, they aren't DDA compliant
Quote from: Winston on May 22, 2015, 06:33:42 PM
They can't be in service past 31st Dec 2015, they aren't DDA compliant
Looks like that will be one for the farewell day!
Quote from: Matt on May 22, 2015, 07:23:51 PM
4004 seems to have fallen into the void? Was on time when I passed it in dudley on the one in front but been waiting in bilston since I got there half an hour ago and its not come. Be funny if its broke down on its last ever trip.
There is still a chance it could be out next week if needed!
5406 126
Quote from: Matt on May 22, 2015, 10:28:55 PM
5405 too
I saw 1 of them ahead of me on Hagley Road while I was on the 21:30ish 120 but could not get close enough to see the fleet number as we got stuck at the Morrison's bus stop
If anyone boards 5415 today, can they please tell me what the written note on the cab door says please
Just passed 2002 at five ways on the 126
has anybody notice whats back at park lane 4320,4321,4322 wich im still looking for I think its still at paint shop we have 4310,4311,4312,4313,4314back aswell at park lane back from central plus we have some tridens from Walsall 4134,4135,4136,4137,4138,4139,4140 as any body seen 4322 if so let me now thx
Quote from: STEVEN 33 on May 24, 2015, 07:38:35 AM
has anybody notice whats back at park lane 4320,4321,4322 wich im still looking for I think its still at paint shop we have 4310,4311,4312,4313,4314back aswell at park lane back from central plus we have some tridens from Walsall 4134,4135,4136,4137,4138,4139,4140 as any body seen 4322 if so let me now thx
Been here for ages now!! The 4134-4140 have been here for a few weeks!!
Quote from: STEVEN 33 on May 24, 2015, 07:38:35 AM
has anybody notice whats back at park lane 4320,4321,4322 wich im still looking for I think its still at paint shop we have 4310,4311,4312,4313,4314back aswell at park lane back from central plus we have some tridens from Walsall 4134,4135,4136,4137,4138,4139,4140 as any body seen 4322 if so let me now thx
4310-14 were transferred back over a year ago!
4134-4140 were transferred several months back.
4320/21 have both been in service at WN for just under a week
4322's MOT ran out whilst being away from repaint. It should be back soon.
4322 is at pl posted by tony, but ran out of mot whilst in paint so wouldnt be out straight away.
4135/4310 were at pl then transferred to pn before coming back.
@Alex 840 was not on the 79. Early Evening/Late night 32/3's interwork with the 11 (79 is on its own)
4563 is on a 79 board that does 32/33/79's then does a trip on the 11 to Underhill at the end of its board before running back to garage.
So neither are noteworthy.
4538 noted on WN1 today appeared to have changed running boards by this evening. 5417 in it's place with the Trident an hour behind.
2023 is on the 126 tonight if of interest.
4322 now in service at WN after transfer from CV, repaint and MOT. Its just passed me on the 59 in Wednesfield.
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/trident_4609/17945821010/
Quote from: Nathan on May 26, 2015, 05:45:28 AM
4322 now in service at WN after transfer from CV, repaint and MOT. Its just passed me on the 59 in Wednesfield.
@Nathan Is it on an all day board? Or just out for AM peak
Quote from: John on May 26, 2015, 08:02:03 AM
@Nathan
Is it on an all day board? Or just out for AM peak
No morning peak boards from now until September
@John. 59's are now on Summer Timetable so yes all day :) Think it may be a late night bus too (RB 59/02 its on)
2 Tiredents on the 3 today, 0756 and 0827 off Castlecroft
At least 2 Spectras on the 82 today for anyone searching.
4018 on the last 59 out of garage.
Quote from: Nathan on May 26, 2015, 08:12:07 AM
No morning peak boards from now until September @John. 59's are now on Summer Timetable so yes all day :) Think it may be a late night bus too (RB 59/02 its on)
Thanks
@Nathan
@Nathan The Tiredent on the 4 is 4575. 1542 City to Spring Hill
4004 still hanging on in service on the 33 today.
Quote from: Nathan on May 27, 2015, 09:12:54 AM
4004 still hanging on in service on the 33 today.
Yes, last day today, it will die tonight
4545 and 4572 on the 1.
Thought I'd catch a few of the more endangered species for one last time, here are my reviews from today including 4004
1407 on the 69 very warm and comfortable, quick but with quite a lot of body rattle, extremely loud retarder and squeaky brakes, classic old Volvo
4004 33 externally not the worst Spectra by a long way, internally again not bad, all cushions matching pattern though some have obviously been replaced, almost silent on idle, no rattles especially compared to a lot of Tridents, even on the move only rattles coming from staircase panels, engine seemed fairly smooth with reasonable power, and suspension excellent but the noise of the brakes, deafening, enjoy retirement 4004
598 internally amazing, all matching, extremely well padded seats, fairly quick of the line as well, hardly any rattles on idle though rear axle does crash around at speed, exhaust blowing just a little to add that extra character, slight squeak on braking and a very noisy handbrake and driver looked extremely cramped in the cab but all in all an excellent bus, absolute credit to Volvo, Wright and NXWM
586 again smart, especially externally with front end repaint but very different to 598, loud and very heavy rattle on idle, all windows shaking past buggy bay, very noisy rear axle and felt far more sluggish, making the traffic on the 11 because of road works just off Park Lane particularly annoying
How often is a Spectra on the 126 ?!
I want to catch a photo and a ride before they all hit the dust
One is just leaving Birmingham now, 17:50 couldn't get the fleet number, but if one does appear it's usually around 5 after a Tridents given up for the day
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on May 27, 2015, 05:54:19 PM
One is just leaving Birmingham now, 17:50 couldn't get the fleet number, but if one does appear it's usually around 5 after a Tridents given up for the day
4006 i'm told was on the 126 this afternoon.
I thought i'd share my flickr pic of 4004:
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/trident_4609/17974215560/
Quote from: Matt on May 27, 2015, 04:53:07 PM
Anyone know what time 4004 goes back to garage?
Back at garage. It was on 33/01 which starts early and finishes about 17:45-17:50.
Quote from: Nathan on May 27, 2015, 07:37:02 PM
Back at garage. Went back about 17:55-18:00.
R.I.P 4004
4313 on the 1 and only 1 hybrid on the 59. Are any hybrids off the road?
4313 is booked from garage, 1/17, last 1 out of garage
Quote from: Matt on May 28, 2015, 12:36:50 PM
4016 on the 59
Booked from Garage. Second last 59 out of garage. Again, only Spectra on there.
Whereas there is a Trident on the 11 (Supposed to be booked B6's and Spectra's) which left garage moments before 4016. So should really be the other way round!
4325 is on the 4 today (4/07)
4554 is on the 4 too
4322 is on the 32
4559 has been swapped off the 11 and onto the 126
4538 and 4566 are on the 1 alongside 4313. 3 Tridents on the 1 is worthy of noting!
4554 is on 4/08 - booked Tiredent board
4541 is on 3/07 - booked Tiredent board
2025 was on the 3 this morning so wonder which lump replaced it.
For Marr, B7RLE's are now daily on the 25.
Just to add, 4541 has had a few seats redone in grey dot.
Fine I have to obey sir wins tons rules now, so I shall copy the same thing I've just posted!!
844 I think replaced 4001 which kept having the bell going off at every corner( on 82)
598 was on the 32/33!!
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 28, 2015, 04:54:45 PM
844 I think replaced 4001 which kept having the bell going off at every corner( on 82)
598 was on the 32/33!!
@Trident 4194 the rules have been in place for months!!!
I hope this is not OT!
There was a letter in the E&S regarding Senior passes in Staffordshire. According to the Staffs county website, their passes are valid any time within the County. Does this cause problems on the 54 and 154 before 9.30AM?
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on May 29, 2015, 09:15:35 AM
I hope this is not OT!
There was a letter in the E&S regarding Senior passes in Staffordshire. According to the Staffs county website, their passes are valid any time within the County. Does this cause problems on the 54 and 154 before 9.30AM?
It shouldn't do as notices are provided I believe regarding acceptance of passes, although there have been issues in the past in Codsall and Wombourne.
My photo of 244 on the 59.
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/trident_4609/17613640793/
4318 is already in service at WN, on a peak time extra 54.
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on May 27, 2015, 04:06:57 PM
Thought I'd catch a few of the more endangered species for one last time, here are my reviews from today including 4004
1407 on the 69 very warm and comfortable, quick but with quite a lot of body rattle, extremely loud retarder and squeaky brakes, classic old Volvo
4004 33 externally not the worst Spectra by a long way, internally again not bad, all cushions matching pattern though some have obviously been replaced, almost silent on idle, no rattles especially compared to a lot of Tridents, even on the move only rattles coming from staircase panels, engine seemed fairly smooth with reasonable power, and suspension excellent but the noise of the brakes, deafening, enjoy retirement 4004
598 internally amazing, all matching, extremely well padded seats, fairly quick of the line as well, hardly any rattles on idle though rear axle does crash around at speed, exhaust blowing just a little to add that extra character, slight squeak on braking and a very noisy handbrake and driver looked extremely cramped in the cab but all in all an excellent bus, absolute credit to Volvo, Wright and NXWM
586 again smart, especially externally with front end repaint but very different to 598, loud and very heavy rattle on idle, all windows shaking past buggy bay, very noisy rear axle and felt far more sluggish, making the traffic on the 11 because of road works just off Park Lane particularly annoying
@wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) The rattles on 586 used to be plentiful. The only rattles I could hear today were the side roller blinds moving about and the normal rear end rattles. Also, the rear window has been replaced in the last month as it used to be an opening emergency exit, was it vandalised or just replaced?
598. My observation and memory skills aren't up much cop at the moment but I believe it's the only one with emergency escape hammers (stand to be corrected). Were these a Pensnett or Park Lane addition?
4322 put its first appearance in service in Birmingham for several years looking quite smart. Probably be the last trident painted for 6 months, although odd really tatty ones might sneak through if required
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4322.html
Quote from: Tony on May 29, 2015, 07:34:29 PM
4322 put its first appearance in service in Birmingham for several years looking quite smart. Probably be the last trident painted for 6 months, although odd really tatty ones might sneak through if required
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4322.html
WN's 4550 and 4551 (The latter especially) spring to mind!
I don't get why NXWM didn't put 4322 in the new livery upon its transfer from Cv? Surely it'd save painting it again in the future
4138 on the 3 - 1111 off Castlecroft
Edit
Its on a late board. 1952 and 2252 from Castlecroft
All Saturday late 3's and 4's are on 3 running boards if of interest
Quote from: the trainbasher on May 30, 2015, 01:03:55 AM
I don't get why NXWM didn't put 4322 in the new livery upon its transfer from Cv? Surely it'd save painting it again in the future
I would guess there are several reasons some of which may be:-
1) the Crimson is being introduced on a route by route basis.
2) possibly all vehicles up to 4350 ish would be due for replacement in the next three years or so owing to new vehicle investment.
3) the Crimson and platinum are more than new liveries - they are a new brand - painting elderly Tridents in crimson would surely be counter productive and would devalue the brand
However 4322 looks brilliant in the photo. The standard livery in good condition still looks good (although the Crimson repaint of 4799 is stunning).
4020 is on the 4, just coming into city centre bound for Spring Hill now
4537 on WN1, seen on snow hill @ 16:08
Can anyone tell me what bus is on the 17:45 81 ex Merry Hill please.
Something worthy to note today is that 5 out of 6 buses on the 59 today are Tridents with only 1 hybrid. Its usually fully or majority hybrid operated on a Sunday.
Still no timetables for the 154 at any bus station or stop in staffordshire. ..considering its shortly going to be the only evening service to wolves from most of these stops, is it possible that there will be some put up soon???
Caught the 154 from wolves to Cannock yesterday, three people on board and two of us I swear were only on it for the ride.
Coming through Featherstone someone asked the driver if it was going to Wolverhampton, of course the 70 did from that stop but the driver said "other side of the road", referring them to the 154 going the other way. Next bus coming the other way would have been the 70 to Cannock so presumably she got the same response from that driver
@Rhys S as Winston stated Tridents on the 1 are no longer noteworthy
Quote from: Dom on June 01, 2015, 04:30:27 PM
@Rhys S as Winston stated Tridents on the 1 are no longer noteworthy
Others post it as noteworthy
Quote from: Rhys S on June 01, 2015, 04:46:21 PM
Others post it as noteworthy
No we don't. It is usually posted in this thread.
And to add, 4323 is on the 1. 4554 was allocated from garage on board 1/15
For the avoidance of further doubt, I have added Tridents to 'Other Allocations' on the 1 (WN) on my ]Google Sheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/162Cm_RG7_yomLkV_m7WBwHlsMI77R0-CpoJz3FdTjSM/htmlview)
Quote from: Stu on June 01, 2015, 07:51:56 PM
For the avoidance of further doubt, I have added Tridents to 'Other Allocations' on the 1 (WN) on my ]Google Sheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/162Cm_RG7_yomLkV_m7WBwHlsMI77R0-CpoJz3FdTjSM/htmlview)
Thanks Stu. Tridents on the 1 is a daily occurrence
Quote from: Winston on June 01, 2015, 10:15:24 PM
Thanks Stu. Tridents on the 1 is a daily occurrence
Apart from Sunday's.....
There appears to be some hybrids off the road atm hence the increased amount of Tridents on the 1 and as a result very little appearing on the 59. I'd imagine the amount of Tridents that appear on the 1 will die down when these hybrids are back on the road.
Quote from: Nathan on June 01, 2015, 10:18:46 PM
Apart from Sunday's.....
Obviously! They are regular on the 1 & not deemed Noteworthy
4316 and 4317 now in service at WN after moving from BC
Here is 4316 in Wednesfield:
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/trident_4609/18358397356/
Quote from: Nathan on June 02, 2015, 03:07:52 PM
4316 and 4317 now in service at WN after moving from BC
Here is 4316 in Wednesfield:
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/trident_4609/18358397356/
4317 was on the 126 yesterday sounding pukka
Do we know the fate or whereabouts of 4580 after its fire in April? Not sure how long it takes to repair this sort of damage. Hopefully it will be back soon.
Quote from: barry on June 02, 2015, 06:36:31 PM
Do we know the fate or whereabouts of 4580 after its fire in April? Not sure how long it takes to repair this sort of damage. Hopefully it will be back soon.
I was told it was towed out of garage a few weeks back. I presume it was heading to Carlyle Bus & Coach but can't be 100% on that.
I'm told 4001 is now withdrawn.
@Ashley 60171 4609 is the Trident on the 1
Two Running Boards on the 25 are now booked Tridents so this should be a daily occurance.
Tridents on the 1 and 4
Quote from: Nathan on June 04, 2015, 04:39:59 PM
I'm told 4001 is now withdrawn.
Yes as posted on facebook by several people at WN yesterday 4001 was taken off at 14:00. It did do a school in the morning as its final revenue earning trip
Quote from: Nathan on June 04, 2015, 04:39:59 PM
I'm told 4001 is now withdrawn.
@Ashley 60171 4609 is the Trident on the 1
Two Running Boards on the 25 are now booked Tridents so this should be a daily occurance.
4546 is on the 4.
I saw 4138 and an E200 pass me whilst walking o
Up Darlington Street at 1545 ish but couldn't see what they were on.
One of the Trident boards on the 25 is the 1555 from Wolverhampton
Quote from: Tony on June 04, 2015, 06:15:39 PM
Yes as posted on facebook by several people at WN yesterday 4001 was taken off at 14:00. It did do a school in the morning as its final revenue earning trip
I am not on Facebook so i wouldn't have seen that.It was one of the engineers who confirmed it for me.
How many buses did get withdrawn the other day?
Quote from: Nathan on June 04, 2015, 06:39:40 PM
I am not on Facebook though.....
It was one of the engineers who confirmed it for me.
How many buses did get withdrawn the other day?
No, that wasn't meant as a 'I know where you've got it from' that is why I confirmed all the exact details which one of the engineers also posted on Facebook
I believe priority has been given to the three buses that have a preservation interest in them, 4001, 669 & 598 although I haven't had 598 definately confirmed yet. It didn't come out today and is currently parked with 4001 & 669
Quote from: Tony on June 04, 2015, 06:43:29 PM
No, that wasn't meant as a 'I know where you've got it from' that is why I confirmed all the exact details which one of the engineers also posted on Facebook
I believe priority has been given to the three buses that have a preservation interest in them, 4001, 669 & 598 although I haven't had 598 definately confirmed yet. It didn't come out today and is currently parked with 4001 & 669
If I was older I would probably buy a b6le
i saw the facebook comment, as 4002 was fit to roll again, has that too got a preservation interest in it?
5405 was on the 126 yesterday.
Quote from: mranon on June 04, 2015, 09:11:33 PM
i saw the facebook comment, as 4002 was fit to roll again, has that too got a preservation interest in it?
In Dundee maybe.
Quote from: Tony on June 04, 2015, 06:43:29 PM
No, that wasn't meant as a 'I know where you've got it from' that is why I confirmed all the exact details which one of the engineers also posted on Facebook
I believe priority has been given to the three buses that have a preservation interest in them, 4001, 669 & 598 although I haven't had 598 definately confirmed yet. It didn't come out today and is currently parked with 4001 & 669
Just to be sure, three of the seven deaths are 586. 598 and 4001?
I've been told 862 is back out on the 81
Quote from: Dom on June 05, 2015, 08:34:24 AM
I've been told 862 is back out on the 81
Yes, it is first day back today
4001 now at Miller Street
Just seen a B7RLE on Wolverhampton Ring Road heading from the Waterloo Road junction towards Chapel Ash island (1239 approx)
669 now officially off fleet strength
I make it 7 B6's and 10 Spectra's left at WN.
B6's left: 244,601,620,632,633, 640 and 662
Spectra's left: 4002,4006,4009,4010,4015 (?),4016,4017,4018,4020 and 4021
4015 out & about most days, including today.
This is not a knock at you Nathan, but amazing how drivers know better than the person who decides fleet changes (4002)
4322 has been in Perry Barr for the last few days, must be having work done
Cheers
@Tony. Saw it late this afternoon on the 82. It must have been avoiding me!
re. 4002- I guess thats just driver talk. I just wanted to see if it was true or not.
Anyway......
4539 is on the 1. Board 1/13.
2010 is on the aftenoon peak time extra on the 59.
4315 is on the 79 this afternoon.
5405 on the 126 this afternoon. Not sure if it was the usual afternoon boards (126/21 and 126/22) but its been all Tridents in recent weeks.
4553 on the 3. 0756 from Castlecroft.
Also, did 2018 replace 2021 on the 3 yesterday?
Saw the 154 at around 650am leaving cannock it actually had two or three passengers on surprisingly
4137 on WN3
Quote from: Nathan on June 09, 2015, 10:43:33 PM
5405 on the 126 this afternoon. Not sure if it was the usual afternoon boards (126/21 and 126/22) but its been all Tridents in recent weeks.
I saw it at Bearwood - it was travelling towards Birmingham City Centre about 1645. Had to do a double take when I realised it was a 126, having seen Harborne hybrids all day in Broad Street.
4542 and 4576 on WN1 today whilst there were (and still should be) two hybrids on the 126. 5402/6 are the fleet numbers
@jack4325 not noteworthy anymore happens almost every Saturday.
4136 and 4558 are both on the 28.
Trident on the 1. Usually a full hybrid lineup on Saturdays
There are Tridents on the 2,3 and 4
4021 529 Photo
https://flic.kr/p/ujefK1
Excellent Picture!
2062 is the first Eclipse 2 I know of to have had some replacement matching trim. Offside seats in front of the raised portion.
Might aswell plug my photo of 5413
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/trident_4609/18156469394/
@Dom I went to West Brom and back on it but managed to get a picture for you :)
4015 is still hanging on in service.
Here it is on the 82 in the week
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/trident_4609/18050387004/
Is there any times for the spectra on the 1 from Dudley please ?
601 photo on WN2
https://flic.kr/p/tKcdyf
Quote from: Rhys S on June 15, 2015, 12:27:53 PM
Is there any times for the spectra on the 1 from Dudley please ?
I didn't see it this afternoon when i travelled on the 1 so must have came off.
4542 is on there though
My photo of 5413 on the 79 Saturday
https://www.flickr.com/photos/130213023@N08/18653227989/in/dateposted-public/
Not sure where I should post this, so here goes...
On a Trident, you have the doors at the front on the top deck to get to the displays... On the side the display is accessible... How does one get to the back display?
(4594 springs to mind...)
@Liam out of interest why is it you ask?
Quote from: Liam on June 17, 2015, 07:00:06 PM
Not sure where I should post this, so here goes...
On a Trident, you have the doors at the front on the top deck to get to the displays... On the side the display is accessible... How does one get to the back display?
(4594 springs to mind...)
When daft twirps try opening that I genuinely tell them that if they take the panel off the bus explodes, they soon get their mits off.
Quote from: the trainbasher on June 17, 2015, 07:06:00 PM
@Liam out of interest why is it you ask?
4594 (As does 4136) have knackered rear displays. They are blank. I presume Liam is asking how this display is accessed so they can fix it.
In other news (Today)
4542 is on the 1 (There were three yesterday)
4570 is on the 3
640 didn't last long on the 59. It was swapped with 4594 from the 11
Quote from: Nathan on June 17, 2015, 07:13:17 PM
4594 (As does 4136) have knackered rear displays. They are blank. I presume Liam is asking how this display is accessed so they can fix it.
In other news (Today)
4542 is on the 1 (There were three yesterday)
4570 is on the 3
640 didn't last long on the 59. It was swapped with 4594 from the 11
We've been lucky enough to have Voith Tridents on the 3 so far all week. Monday 431x, tuesday 457x and today 4570.
4542 finished on the 1845 1E from Dudley. Think theres a Trident behind it on a late board.
Finally got 154 timetables at some Cannock stops by the looks of it
Quote from: Nathan on June 17, 2015, 07:13:17 PM
4594 (As does 4136) have knackered rear displays. They are blank. I presume Liam is asking how this display is accessed so they can fix it.
In other news (Today)
4542 is on the 1 (There were three yesterday)
4570 is on the 3
640 didn't last long on the 59. It was swapped with 4594 from the 11
4136 doesn't have a rear dot matrix display at all, if you look close enough you can see it. (I pay too much attention to that sort of thing)
841 on Northwood park 32/3
dont kno if notewothy or no but i have not seen an E200 on there for a while so .
There was a B7RLE in cannock bus station at around 2.45 this afternoon not in service. Route training?
Quote from: Bob on June 18, 2015, 07:32:13 PM
There was a B7RLE in cannock bus station at around 2.45 this afternoon not in service. Route training?
The afternoon shift extra bus. Does a 54 and a 154 (From Business Park) then does a 794 school. A 794 numbered Running board which is booked a B7RLE
Does the 154 element go from the business park to cannock and Hednesford?
Quote from: Bob on June 18, 2015, 09:04:38 PM
Does the 154 element go from the business park to cannock and Hednesford?
From the Business Park to Cannock only.
2004 is entering (not in service) the consumer paradise that is the Shoppers Republic of Merry Hell
5401 has been swapped off WN59 and beeing replaced with 4316
How does the 5 and 10 interwork work and when do they interwork?
Quote from: jack4325 on June 21, 2015, 02:24:23 PM
5401 has been swapped off WN59 and beeing replaced with 4316
Running board 59/03. Now one of two Tridents on there. 4559 was the only one out this morning. Rest were Hybrids
Quote from: Dom on June 21, 2015, 04:05:30 PM
How does the 5 and 10 interwork work and when do they interwork?
5 leaves Wolverhampton Bus Station at 10 past the hour
Arrives back at 09 past the hour. 11 mins layover
10 leaves Wolverhampton Bus Station at 20 past the hour
Arrives back at 06 past the hour. 4 mins layover
Quote from: Nathan on June 21, 2015, 04:32:48 PM
Works like any other interworking. They interwork at Wolverhampton Bus Station. a 5 turns into a 10 upon arrival at the station and vice versa.
I mean as it the times ect.
5 @ 5 past the hour
10 @ 20 past the hour
Anyone notice what was on the 255 today...
Clue...Pink does not suit Merry Hill at all ;)
Going by the sound of that, was it a 529 branded Trident? :)
Quote from: the trainbasher on June 22, 2015, 07:39:45 PM
Anyone notice what was on the 255 today...
Clue...Pink does not suit Merry Hill at all ;)
A 529 branded Trident? I saw 4597 being driven by the engineer in the bus station this evening whilst me being on a bus to home.
Quote from: Liberator9 on June 22, 2015, 07:41:56 PM
Going by the sound of that, was it a 529 branded Trident? :)
Quote from: P419 EJW on June 22, 2015, 07:43:50 PM
A 529 branded Trident? I saw 4597 being driven by the engineer in the bus station this evening whilst me being on a bus to home.
That's right... 4597...
Quote from: the trainbasher on June 22, 2015, 07:45:16 PM
That's right... 4597...
Ahh, thank you, that answers my question I asked myself earlier. ;)
@Trident 4194 1613 on the 126 last night? That photo you probably saw was taken back in February and was heavily featured on here
Quote from: Nathan on June 23, 2015, 12:46:00 PM
@Trident 4194 1613 on the 126 last night? When did you see this? The same one appeared some months back on a Saturday.
It is a picture from February that was uploaded to Flickr last night
https://www.flickr.com/photos/nitromatt1/18875108910/
28 missing due to a broken window in new invention
Does anyone know why the 4590 gearbox sounds different to the rest of the tridents?
Quote from: Trident4590 on June 25, 2015, 09:06:16 PM
Does anyone know why the 4590 gearbox sounds different to the rest of the tridents?
Because its knackered and has been for about four years but probably won't be replaced I bet.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on June 25, 2015, 09:15:06 PM
Because its knackered and has been for about four years but probably won't be replaced I bet.
Hardly knackered if it has been used for four years
Quote from: Tony on June 25, 2015, 09:22:37 PM
Hardly knackered if it has been used for four years
Well maybe not knackered but certainly not working as good as it used to. 4603 is another with gearbox issues shall we call them. The same issue that got 638 it's bad rep where managing to get into third gear is a somewhat rare treat or it changes about two seconds before you have to brake.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on June 25, 2015, 09:32:52 PM
Well maybe not knackered but certainly not working as good as it used to. 4603 is another with gearbox issues shall we call them. The same issue that got 638 it's bad rep where managing to get into third gear is a somewhat rare treat or it changes about two seconds before you have to brake.
4586 also springs to mind
Quote from: Dom on June 25, 2015, 09:39:08 PM
4586 also springs to mind
Nothing wrong with 4586 (The Euro 4 example). I find it hard to explain but 4590,4603 and 4605 all seem to have a gearbox issue. They do sound different to other ZF tridents. They seem to lack power
Quote from: Nathan on June 25, 2015, 09:50:54 PM
Nothing wrong with 4586 (The Euro 4 example). I find it hard to explain but 4590,4603 and 4605 all seem to have a gearbox issue. They do sound different to other ZF tridents. They seem to lack power
I always thought the old 59 branded 46** series sounded and felt 'different' to the other s in the batch. 4609 sounding substantially different. As with the Voith 45 series Tridents 4565 sounds different (better) than the others..I wonder why??
Quote from: 4006 on June 26, 2015, 10:04:30 AM
I always thought the old 59 branded 46** series sounded and felt 'different' to the other s in the batch. 4609 sounding substantially different. As with the Voith 45 series Tridents 4565 sounds different (better) than the others..I wonder why??
It's hard to explain but the three I mentioned sound as if there is issues with the gearbox.
Just saw 4556 on the red box in Walsall Bus Station. The back window and the left small window are smashed. See picture here (http://i.imgur.com/fAJ0lCf.jpg).
@jack4325 Tridents are not noteworthy on the 2 on a Saturday. Late night board 2/11 is usually a Trident which 4583 is working.
Same applies to the 3/4 if anyone is unsure.
4542 is another trident with gearbox issue it sounds normal most of time but sometimes it sounds like the 4590 I. It usually sounds weird when changing gear uphill.
4586 seen broken down on Hagley Road West
4135 on the 1 tonight. Not common for a Saturday (especially on lates)
82 completely Spectra free today, first time I have seen that on a weekday for ages
Quote from: Tony on June 29, 2015, 10:29:42 AM
82 completely Spectra free today, first time I have seen that on a weekday for ages
What we got on there then? A B6...
Quote from: Dom on June 29, 2015, 10:52:17 AM
What we got on there then? A B6...
and 6 tridents
A 529 has just come into Wolverhampton via Wednesfield Rd. Has there been an accident on Willenhall Rd?
4557 has been pulled off 59's to work an 529E to Willenhall.
Quote from: Tony on June 29, 2015, 10:56:18 AM
and 6 tridents
WOOO! :). That's made me very happy
Quote from: Nathan on June 29, 2015, 11:04:06 AM
A 529 has just come into Wolverhampton via Wednesfield Rd. Has there been an accident on Willenhall Rd?
Yes
Cheers Tony. Its back open now.
As of today all 25 and 82 boards are booked Tridents, hence why there are no Spectra's. 601 is a change bus.
4010 didn't last long on the 59. Was swapped for 4134 after a trip and a bit.
Where can I find b6s and spectas now then?
4130 is on the 126. A loan or transfer
@Tony?
Quote from: Tony on June 30, 2015, 08:56:55 PM
So it appears everyone missed the rarest working of the year so far......
601 left Birmingham at 17:29 on a 126 to Wolverhampton.
Wow, surprised no one from the Wolverhampton end noticed it!
Probably the last time one will enter the City!
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on June 30, 2015, 09:00:33 PM
Wow, surprised no one from the Wolverhampton end noticed it!
Probably the last time one will enter the City!
Typical. Would have just missed that as i passed through Wolverhampton this evening!
Another one yesterday was 662 almost got onto the 529 but a defect meant it did not got go on there.
Saw 4016 earlier but never got to catch it. It isn't my day is it! ::)
I caught 4016 on 126E this morning but never saw 601 on 126. :( Proper gutted missing another rarest working again. 1446 on X51 and X56, and 601 on 126. :(
Oh for christ sake, typical miss the rarest working, worst thing is IT GOES PAST THE TOP OF MY BLOODY STREET!
First and last B6LE on the 126... Whoops
4130 still at WN if anybody's chasing it. On the 255 (1030 from Merry Hill to Wolverhampton)
4553 just nicked off 59's for the 255.
I'm told there were 'several' Spectra's on the 126 yesterday.
WN bus on a WA route???
https://flic.kr/p/vssE7H
It then changed to '529E-Willenhall' which it then worked
I think that wolverhampton garage didn't like Pensnett's modification of the rear lights of 4135. 4135 pulled into merry hill on 255 with new standard trident rear lights. I think the e400 rear lights suited the trident
Quote from: Chris on July 03, 2015, 10:38:32 PM
I think that wolverhampton garage didn't like Pensnett's modification of the rear lights of 4135. 4135 pulled into merry hill on 255 with new standard trident rear lights. I think the e400 rear lights suited the trident
One of the WA 41XX tridents has had the standard LED style trident lights put on instead of the original non-leds they were fitted with
Quote from: Chris on July 03, 2015, 10:38:32 PM
I think that wolverhampton garage didn't like Pensnett's modification of the rear lights of 4135. 4135 pulled into merry hill on 255 with new standard trident rear lights. I think the e400 rear lights suited the trident
Not sure about the first bit,
@Chris. Last time I saw 4135 with the E400 rear lights, when it was indicating, one indicator light was flashing instead of two indicator lights flashing. I am assuming that's why WN has changed the rear lights back to the standard Trident rear lights. I don't know the real reason but I'm just giving my observation. I found it weird to see the E400 rear lights on a Trident, I'm glad they are replaced.
@jack4325 81/05 the board 2063 is on is now booked as a B7RLE so not noteworthy
pretty sure ive seen an ex wa 41xx trident fitted with standard leds thought 4135 looked better with later lights lol
All 6 remaining spectras ventured out this morning
4017 on the 11
4020/1 on the 33
4006/10/16 on schools
Quote from: Tony on July 06, 2015, 11:12:04 AM
All 6 remaining spectras ventured out this morning
4017 on the 11
4020/1 on the 33
4006/10/16 on schools
4010 has now ventured onto the 1.
4597 (529 branded) was out on 126 today and 4325
Also there was an incident on 4553 as two ambulances were parked in front and a police car parked behind the top right back window looked like it had blood on it as it was driving away.
4537 &4325 on WN4 first time in a few days ive seen a decker on the 4
4137 on 126 today sounds a little different to the other tridents and has different rear lights to others making it stand out a little. I've been seeing a lot of 43** tridents on the 126 is this a permanent thing?
Quote from: Trident4590 on July 08, 2015, 09:39:25 PM
4137 on 126 today sounds a little different to the other tridents and has different rear lights to others making it stand out a little. I've been seeing a lot of 43** tridents on the 126 is this a permanent thing?
Tridents are Tridents. It doesn't matter what batch they're from. The 126 is booked Tridents so it doesn't matter if it is a Y Reg or a 54 plate.....
4143 on the 33 if anybodys lookin for it
4144 is out but didnt get route it was on
4006 has just beeing taken off 126
Quote from: jack4325 on July 13, 2015, 12:11:14 PM
4006 has just beeing taken off 126
Cheers jack. That's saved me a dash into brum for it.
Wolverhampton services today have been well and truely fu*ked.
Until about 12 we were ok slight issues here and there but not much. At 12 IT KICKED OFF!
We had about 4 126's running in convoy of which 3 reliefs weren't out. The 59 was sodded all afternoon one bus went back to garage to be replaced by 4006 which was then swapped without making it into service, then to be swapped by another trident which again didn't make it into service before eventually a bus made it out back onto 59/08.
The 126's had been running in convoy practically all afternoon making the passengers very frustrated.
Overall after doing a day inspecting i'm shattered.
@Nathan can give more info on the day as I was very much in work mode and didn't take much note.
All expected when the schools finish for summer.....
Quote from: Nathan on July 17, 2015, 05:44:46 PM
All expected when the schools finish for summer.....
Granted but that was ridiculous!
schools finished, the great big rush to get away, and friday afternoon what do you expect?
Quote from: Dom on July 17, 2015, 05:51:04 PM
Granted but that was ridiculous!
Its just life
On a slightly more anorak style note.
Has 2027 had a new rear end or just a rear end repaint minus fleetname on the rear window which it had not long ago?
When did 2029 get Metrobus style fleetnumbers on the rear?
What happened to 2062 for it to gain a small rectangular metal strip on the ceiling?
2027 has had rear end damage repaired after meeting a lampost in waterloo rd a couple of months ago. (window smashed hence probably not got round to sticking the logo on)
2029 had those fleetnumbers since it was repaired after 4007 ended up in the back of it at wolves bus station at least couple of years ago!
2062 has the metal plate covering damage to ceiling - again ages ago.
on another point 2028 looks very smart at the rear end - looks like thats had a respray with a couple of drivers side panels.
ooops better keep the anorak in me at bay!!!
Quote from: mranon on July 17, 2015, 07:37:32 PM
2027 has had rear end damage repaired after meeting a lampost in waterloo rd a couple of months ago. (window smashed hence probably not got round to sticking the logo on)
2029 had those fleetnumbers since it was repaired after 4007 ended up in the back of it at wolves bus station at least couple of years ago!
2062 has the metal plate covering damage to ceiling - again ages ago.
on another point 2028 looks very smart at the rear end - looks like thats had a respray with a couple of drivers side panels.
ooops better keep the anorak in me at bay!!!
Cheers
@mranon for the info.
Fair few Eclipses on the Northwood Park circle today. This becoming the norm? In fact is this what the transfer of a few more to Wolves is for?
Quote from: Kevin on July 18, 2015, 03:32:42 PM
Fair few Eclipses on the Northwood Park circle today. This becoming the norm? In fact is this what the transfer of a few more to Wolves is for?
With less B6's and Spectra's operating, the 11/32/33 are a mixed bag in terms of allocation. B6's, Spectra's, Tridents and B7RLE's are all regulars.
In response to Kevin's comment about 841 appearing on the 54/154, I'd imagine these services are in a complete mess today with the closure of the M6 between J13-J12. It's possible additional buses are being used to aid the services, hence unusual workings.
Quote from: Kevin on July 18, 2015, 03:32:42 PM
Fair few Eclipses on the Northwood Park circle today. This becoming the norm? In fact is this what the transfer of a few more to Wolves is for?
1 B7 (2062) on 33
2 or 3 B7's on the 11
Unless ive missed something, no Spectras are out.
Obviously I know the 54/154 is meant to have E200s but just thought it strange a B7 was put on the 81 instead, thinking about it would make more sense the B7 went on the 154. Ah well
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on July 18, 2015, 04:39:02 PM
1 B7 (2062) on 33
2 or 3 B7's on the 11
Unless ive missed something, no Spectras are out.
Lol, there is of course every potential that I've just seen the one Eclipse about 4 times
And yeah didn't spot any Spectras either
Quote from: Kevin on July 18, 2015, 05:09:04 PM
Obviously I know the 54/154 is meant to have E200s but just thought it strange a B7 was put on the 81 instead, thinking about it would make more sense the B7 went on the 154. Ah well
Lol, there is of course every potential that I've just seen the one Eclipse about 4 times
And yeah didn't spot any Spectras either
Did it come from garage for the 15:30 dep because 81/05 is now booked a B7 and was a B7 today and I've only seen one all day.
Quote from: Dom on July 18, 2015, 05:35:25 PM
Did it come from garage for the 15:30 dep because 81/05 is now booked a B7 and was a B7 today and I've only seen one all day.
Well we passed one coming the other way on the Birmingham road so there was definitely two on
Since when has the 1 left city to Dudley via the back of the old sainsburys?
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 18, 2015, 06:04:51 PM
Since when has the 1 left city to Dudley via the back of the old sainsburys?
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=1928.msg109397#msg109397
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 18, 2015, 06:14:31 PM
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=1928.msg109397#msg109397
Cheers :) shows how long ago it's been since I've used the 1 ex Wolverhampton!
54s and 154s were knackered right from start of service today. with the best efforts in the world with market day in penkridge it can be bad along the a449, but when everything is being forced off m6 j13 south it started. i was on 7.23 from stafford, and there was a rtc just b4 junc 13 island, then we never really got out of a crawl until rodbaston as a farmer was holding us all up with his tractor. the driver did his very best but still came into wolves about 20 mins late.
i dont know it m6 is open now, but read in express and star website that 6pm was expected reopen time. with the 154 interworking, they would both be struggling. as for b7's on those rotes, apparantly the section of 154 between cannock and hednesford is tight with parked vehicles so they tend not to be used on there wherever possible. a pity really, as i think they would be more suited to those routes. more room, and much better smoother ride.
I know it's probably been explained previously but what routes at WN interwork on Sundays?
Quote from: Dom on July 19, 2015, 06:54:08 PM
I know it's probably been explained previously but what routes at WN interwork on Sundays?
3/4/6
5/10
32/33/79
255/256
that it i think
Quote from: jack4325 on July 19, 2015, 07:49:48 PM
3/4/6
5/10
32/33/79
255/256
that it i think
Forgot these Sunday evening ones
11/32/33
3/4
6's and 79's revert to stand alone.
2113 on the 3 today for anybody looking.
Wolverhampton having a Spectra day today with all 5 remaining Spectras in all day services, 2 on the 11, 2 on the 32 & 1 on the 33
Quote from: Tony on July 23, 2015, 01:31:08 PM
Wolverhampton having a Spectra day today with all 5 remaining Spectras in all day services, 2 on the 11, 2 on the 32 & 1 on the 33
There were 5 out yesterday too. Again, 3 on Northwood Park's and 2 on the 11. I presume it is 4 B6's on the 11 again too?
Also, 633 will no longer see service.
Which 5 are left
@The Fox 4846 The 5 B6's remaining are 244, 601, 620, 632 & 662
Quote from: Alex on July 23, 2015, 02:45:55 PM
@The Fox 4846 The 5 B6's remaining are 244, 601, 620, 632 & 662
I presume he means Spectras
@Alex
Yeah, I do but thanks anyway Alex
@Rhys S Tridents on the 1 are not classed as Noteworthy nor have they been for a while.
The Spectras remaining are 4006, 4010, 4017, 4018 & 4020. Hope that helps
Spectra's left are:
4006,4010,4017,4020,4021
B6's left are:
244,601,620,632,662
Quote from: Alex on July 23, 2015, 04:29:28 PM
The Spectras remaining are 4006, 4010, 4017, 4018 & 4020. Hope that helps
4018 finished some weeks ago. 4021 is still in service
When did 4002 retire?
Quote from: John on July 23, 2015, 04:34:36 PM
When did 4002 retire?
About a week ago wasn't it?
Quote from: Dom on July 23, 2015, 04:34:56 PM
About a week ago wasn't it?
Is it me, i don't remember reading it had gone?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 23, 2015, 06:45:21 PM
Is it me, i don't remember reading it had gone?
I seem to remember seeing it was gone but having looked around earlier couldn't find the post, so odds are it hasn't
@Stuharris 6360
Quote from: Dom on July 23, 2015, 06:48:42 PM
I seem to remember seeing it was gone but having looked around earlier couldn't find the post, so odds are it hasn't @Stuharris 6360
oh well R.I.P 4002
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 23, 2015, 06:50:03 PM
oh well R.I.P 4002
4002 is not resting in peace. It was withdrawn about two weeks ago, sold last week, collected last Thursday and should appear in service with its new owner soon
@Tony, do we know who the new owner is?
2068 has gone Diamond style with a squeaky front axle.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on July 23, 2015, 07:46:45 PM
2068 has gone Diamond style with a squeaky front axle.
Has been for a bit, still what do you expect from a crap set of buses (Personal Opinion)
Quote from: Tony on July 23, 2015, 07:06:39 PM
4002 is not resting in peace. It was withdrawn about two weeks ago, sold last week, collected last Thursday and should appear in service with its new owner soon
Fantastic, I knew they had bought it, I wasn't sure if the owners had bought it for preservation only. But, if it's for service, I guess they will have to repaint it into a version of their livery, which should be fantastic! :)
Quote from: Dom on July 23, 2015, 07:52:18 PM
Has been for a bit, still what do you expect from a crap set of buses (Personal Opinion)
Not as bad as adl vehicles
@BU07 LGO, the Trident on the 302 must be 4560, 4596 is back at WN on Northwood Park Circulars today.
Quote from: Nathan on July 24, 2015, 02:55:17 PM
@BU07 LGO, the Trident on the 302 must be 4560, 4596 is back at WN on Northwood Park Circulars today.
I only saw it briefly as it overtook my 301. That's a shame was hoping they were transfers :(
Was 4560 as I came home from Walsall on it!
Did 4002 have its original plates taken off when sold ??
Quote from: Jaysnerz007 on July 24, 2015, 09:46:39 PM
Did 4002 have its original plates taken off when sold ??
No still registered R2 NEG.
For anyone wanting any Spectra action today the 32/33 route is 100% spectra at the moment
4006; 4010; 4017 & 4021.
The 5th survivor, 4020 is on the 11
@Dylanbusboy45 Hybrids are not noteworthy on the 59. The spare hybrids are used on there. It is one of 3 on there today (5404 and 5406 are the others).
Oh.... Not very familiar with Wolverhampton routes and the buses used on there!!
Would the idiot who decided to route the 126 via Holloway Head please stand up. Its just took 25 minutes to get Five Ways to Dean Street on 4320!
Its getting beyond a joke trying to cross the island to get onto Smallbrook nowadays!
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 31, 2015, 11:35:37 AM
Would the idiot who decided to route the 126 via Holloway Head please stand up. Its just took 25 minutes to get Five Ways to Dean Street on 4320!
Its getting beyond a joke trying to cross the island to get onto Smallbrook nowadays!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJO5HU_7_1w
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 31, 2015, 11:35:37 AM
Would the idiot who decided to route the 126 via Holloway Head please stand up. Its just took 25 minutes to get Five Ways to Dean Street on 4320!
Its getting beyond a joke trying to cross the island to get onto Smallbrook nowadays!
Traffic there has been the case for a while, 80/98/99 always having problems whenever I've gone that way.
But it's the only way really to get from the Hagley Road / five ways area to the markets and they wanted to keep that link
Quote from: Kevin on July 31, 2015, 01:00:46 PM
Traffic there has been the case for a while, 80/98/99 always having problems whenever I've gone that way.
But it's the only way really to get from the Hagley Road / five ways area to the markets and they wanted to keep that link
Surely they could have sent it Broad Street, Great Charles Street, Snow Hill, Priory, Moor Street, Upper Dean Street (stop by the Spar), Hill Street (for New Street and town hall) then back down Broad Street?
4584 has had a bump.
https://twitter.com/ExpressandStar/status/627166493961285632
4540 on late night 1's tonight. Pretty rare sight on a Saturday night. Appears to have replaced 5412 which was towed back to garage.
Don't know if previously mentioned but, 4134 seems to have different style rear lights to the rest of the tridents.
Also 2070 has just gone back to garage with a loose wing mirror, according to the driver it is the 2nd or 3rd time he himself had booked it off for it. It's on RB 5/03 so most likely its replacement will be a transponder B7RLE
Quote from: Dom on August 03, 2015, 05:59:20 PM
Don't know if previously mentioned but, 4134 seems to have different style rear lights to the rest of the tridents.
Also 2070 has just gone back to garage with a loose wing mirror, according to the driver it is the 2nd or 3rd time he himself had booked it off for it. It's on RB 5/03 so most likely its replacement will be a transponder B7RLE
4134, had it got a rear light with a indicator going through it?
Haven't seen 601 for the past week. I'm told its parked down the bottom of the yard at PL with a 'defective do not move sticker'. I presume its withdrawn. Can you confirm
@Tony?
Just on my into Wolverhampton to ride some b6s. Where are they all today. Im guessing by previous posts that they normal are on the 11 32 33 and 25s?
Quote from: Chris on August 05, 2015, 01:20:54 PM
Just on my into Wolverhampton to ride some b6s. Where are they all today. Im guessing by previous posts that they normal are on the 11 32 33 and 25s?
Not on 25, usually on 11 632 is on the 81
Quote from: Chris on August 05, 2015, 01:20:54 PM
Just on my into Wolverhampton to ride some b6s. Where are they all today. Im guessing by previous posts that they normal are on the 11 32 33 and 25s?
Two on the 11. 620 and 662. 632 is on the 81. Those are the only B6's out.
Quote from: Nathan on August 05, 2015, 01:26:16 PM
Two on the 11. 620 and 662. 632 is on the 81. Those are the only B6's out.
Cheers
@Nathan and @trident4194 and the spectras? :)
Quote from: Chris on August 05, 2015, 01:30:35 PM
Cheers @Nathan and @trident4194 and the spectras? :)
4006 and 4017 on the 32/33
On 4604 at the moment with a rather sticky floor!
Spectra Hunters:
4010 , 4017 & a 3rd UNIDED are on Northwoods
None on the 11 from what I've seen
Any spectras/b6s on unusual routes then?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 06, 2015, 08:49:32 AM
Any spectras/b6s on unusual routes then?
Not from what I've seen although I haven't seen everything
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 06, 2015, 08:49:32 AM
Any spectras/b6s on unusual routes then?
You've asked that question a thousand times. Why not just go and look?
Quote from: Dom on August 06, 2015, 07:33:37 AM
Spectra Hunters:
4010 , 4017 & a 3rd UNIDED are on Northwoods
None on the 11 from what I've seen
4006
@RS there is always a B7 on the 81 on a Saturday. It is booked on!
Anyone noticed what has just left merry hill on the 81...
...and here's me at the stop using its free wifi!!
Quote from: the trainbasher on August 12, 2015, 06:15:45 PM
Anyone noticed what has just left merry hill on the 81...
...and here's me at the stop using its free wifi!!
What was the fleetnumber? Its just that 851 was taken off the 11 at about 5pm.
I don't know if this is the right thread, but when I was in Wolverhampton bus station this afternoon a 63 reg Wright Gemini 3 came in and waited for a few minutes. I think it was an early B5TL. It was in white, but with More branding, not in service. Anyone know what it was doing?
@Stevo probably heading to GKN
@Nathan yeah as
@Dom said it was 851
Quote from: Stevo on August 12, 2015, 06:55:33 PM
I don't know if this is the right thread, but when I was in Wolverhampton bus station this afternoon a 63 reg Wright Gemini 3 came in and waited for a few minutes. I think it was an early B5TL. It was in white, but with More branding, not in service. Anyone know what it was doing?
@Stevo Saw it myself again today in the station.BF63 HDC. Demo Bus which spent time with Lothian Buses. It was in Wolverhampton Bus Station a few weeks back. I also ollowed it down Bushbury Rd near Wednesfield/New Cross earlier on.It appears to be set for Go Ahead down Bournemouth
Here was the photo i took some weeks ago:
https://flic.kr/p/wYJSJV
4559 on the 1. Lichfield Street 1822 towards Tettenhall. Not sure how much this happens now.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on August 12, 2015, 07:04:44 PM
4559 on the 1. Lichfield Street 1822 towards Tettenhall. Not sure how much this happens now.
As is 4578. Hybrids off the road again it appears. Very little on the 59 which is odd during school holidays.
@Dom @the trainbasher so 851 has gone from 54/154 to the 11 to the 81! So it has got about abit. From Stafford/Hednesford to Merry Hill!
Quote from: Nathan on August 12, 2015, 07:06:21 PM
As is 4578. Hybrids off the road again it appears. Very little on the 59 which is odd during school holidays.
@Dom @the trainbasher so 851 has gone from 54/154 to the 11 to the 81! So it has got about abit. From Stafford/Hednesford to Merry Hill!
In response to an earlier comment comment. I assume the dispute about wi-fi has been resolved and 849-852 are now equipped?
Quote from: Nathan on August 12, 2015, 07:06:21 PM
As is 4578. Hybrids off the road again it appears. Very little on the 59 which is odd during school holidays.
@Dom @the trainbasher so 851 has gone from 54/154 to the 11 to the 81! So it has got about abit. From Stafford/Hednesford to Merry Hill!
If there are Hybrids off the road again then reliability of those E400Hs is pretty poor. The B5LH certainly seems to be the more favoured Hybrid version now, including with Stagecoach now it's available with the E400 MMC body.
Quote from: Mike K on August 13, 2015, 06:47:40 PM
If there are Hybrids off the road again then reliability of those E400Hs is pretty poor. The B5LH certainly seems to be the more favoured Hybrid version now, including with Stagecoach now it's available with the E400 MMC body.
Not sure if it is back but 5412 is one that is quite unreliable. Seen it been towed back several times within the past few weeks.
842 on 154 isn't unusual as it is on a midday starting RB, so all the available branded E200's are already out, and anyway it's an E200 on a E200 route, a bit of vinyl doesn't make a difference
I wonder who's been f***ing about with 2059's displays? When I was re-creating WN's destinations mid-July they were fine and no full route destinations were scrolling.
i wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that it has had a front end repair after a tree hit it few weeks back. the display looks brighter so may have been replaced
Quote from: mranon on August 18, 2015, 08:50:22 PM
i wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that it has had a front end repair after a tree hit it few weeks back. the display looks brighter so may have been replaced
Yes but surly they wouldn't create a whole new set of destinations for it would they. They would just plug the black box into the bus and hey presto
what about if display is different or it needs to be calibrated to box etc.
Just passed 4542 in Willenhall displaying A5. Is the Amazon service back then?
Yes
Quote from: Tony on August 20, 2015, 04:10:55 PM
Yes
Cheers. Whilst i'm on the subject, Is that why 4105 is at WA?
2004 on 2115/2315 256 off Wolvertrampton
4599 pulled off 529 due to sliping out of gear and and 4535 pulled off 11 onto 529
Presumably due to buses covering v festival, 2017 is on the 33 and 2010 is on the 11.
Quote from: WMT3000 on August 22, 2015, 09:56:18 AM
Presumably due to buses covering v festival, 2017 is on the 33 and 2010 is on the 11.
The 11/32/33 are a mixed bag anyway now there are only a handful of Spectra's/B6's . There is usually a B7RLE or two on the 33 each Saturday
The 11 is a mixed bag today, Two Tridents (4134 and 4573), 2 B6's (620 and 662), a B7RLE (2062) and a Spectra (4017)
Also, there only appears to be 3 Spectra's (4017/20/1) and Two B6's (620/662) left now in service.
I'm aware
@Ashley 60171 about 4020/1 :) 4313 and 2014 are the other two buses on there so a mixed bag too
Quote from: Nathan on August 25, 2015, 11:16:46 AM
The 11 is a mixed bag today, Two Tridents (4134 and 4573), 2 B6's (620 and 662), a B7RLE (2062) and a Spectra (4017)
Also, there only appears to be 3 Spectra's (4017/20/1) and Two B6's (620/662) left now in service.
4020 and 4021 on Northwood Parks
Quote from: Nathan on August 25, 2015, 11:16:46 AM
The 11 is a mixed bag today, Two Tridents (4134 and 4573), 2 B6's (620 and 662), a B7RLE (2062) and a Spectra (4017)
Also, there only appears to be 3 Spectra's (4017/20/1) and Two B6's (620/662) left now in service.
I'm aware @Ashley 60171 about 4020/1 :) 4313 and 2014 are the other two buses on there so a mixed bag too
244 and 632
Quote from: RS on August 25, 2015, 06:03:43 PM
244 and 632
244 hasn't been out and 632 is withdrawn.
Quote from: P419 EJW on August 25, 2015, 06:07:46 PM
244 hasn't been out and 632 is withdrawn.
Is it? I thought that was the one that had it's MoT renewed.
Quote from: Dom on August 25, 2015, 06:15:45 PM
Is it? I thought that was the one that had it's MoT renewed.
Yes, it is and it was indeed. Read this (http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=2279.msg157476#msg157476).
Quote from: P419 EJW on August 25, 2015, 06:17:43 PM
Yes, it is and it was indeed. Read this (http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=2279.msg157476#msg157476).
Oh s*** so it was! What was the point in re-MoTing it then?!
Quote from: Dom on August 25, 2015, 06:19:20 PM
Oh s*** so it was! What was the point in re-MoTing it then?!
Tony posted something about that - read here (http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=1928.msg144939#msg144939).
The scrappers are in better condition with the Eclipse 2's.
2063 the latest to get a squeaking chassis and components scraping against the underfloor.
And people slate the smaller fish for vehicle maintenance...
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on August 28, 2015, 11:19:58 AM
The scrappers are in better condition with the Eclipse 2's.
2063 the latest to get a squeaking chassis and components scraping against the underfloor.
And people slate the smaller fish for vehicle maintenance...
OK then, what maintenance has failed? What hasn't been done? What is scraping against the underfllor?
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on August 28, 2015, 11:19:58 AM
The scrappers are in better condition with the Eclipse 2's.
2063 the latest to get a squeaking chassis and components scraping against the underfloor.
And people slate the smaller fish for vehicle maintenance...
Like Tony, I'm confused as to what you mean!
Quote from: Tony on August 28, 2015, 11:24:47 AM
OK then, what maintenance has failed? What hasn't been done? What is scraping against the underfllor?
Tony,I am quite surprised that you haven't so far realised that NX do not actually need to employ any engineers..........any bus spotter can casually stand observing vehicles in any bus station or can take a 5 minute ride on one and can then give a complete report on it's condition......further,by glancing into the buses interior at odd moments he can give a perfect report on vehicle and route loadings,thus saving hours studying loading charts..............if this method were to be used,much money could be saved on engineering and office staff,money which could be used to give English And spelling lessons to various of our posters.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on August 28, 2015, 11:19:58 AM
The scrappers are in better condition with the Eclipse 2's.
2063 the latest to get a squeaking chassis and components scraping against the underfloor.
And people slate the smaller fish for vehicle maintenance...
The problem with faults like these is that they rarely affect the actual driving or performance of the vehicle which means drivers don't notice anymore and don't bother to defect them. Topside checkers can't spot things that only happen when the vehicle is moving. An intermediate safety check on the pits may also not pick it up. Consequently the engineers never get to the problem.
You however can go onto NX's site and report the vehicle quite easily and you should.
Quote from: arrifirststage on August 28, 2015, 04:27:37 PM
Tony,I am quite surprised that you haven't so far realised that NX do not actually need to employ any engineers..........any bus spotter can casually stand observing vehicles in any bus station or can take a 5 minute ride on one and can then give a complete report on it's condition......further,by glancing into the buses interior at odd moments he can give a perfect report on vehicle and route loadings,thus saving hours studying loading charts..............if this method were to be used,much money could be saved on engineering and office staff,money which could be used to give English And spelling lessons to various of our posters.
Ah, then we wouldn't have so many enginers! I like it!
Quote from: arrifirststage on August 28, 2015, 04:27:37 PM
Tony,I am quite surprised that you haven't so far realised that NX do not actually need to employ any engineers..........any bus spotter can casually stand observing vehicles in any bus station or can take a 5 minute ride on one and can then give a complete report on it's condition......further,by glancing into the buses interior at odd moments he can give a perfect report on vehicle and route loadings,thus saving hours studying loading charts..............if this method were to be used,much money could be saved on engineering and office staff,money which could be used to give English And spelling lessons to various of our posters.
Resulting in job losses which then will lead to less buses on the road and routes cut, therefor meaning a worse service for all.
Seriously knee jerk responses like this are unnecessary and unhelpful, buses are subject to strict checks at regular intervals not to mention they require MOTs at a higher frequency. As one of the previous posters suggested, if you spot a problem, report it.
Quote from: Driver03 on August 28, 2015, 06:22:24 PM
Resulting in job losses which then will lead to less buses on the road and routes cut, therefor meaning a worse service for all.
Seriously knee jerk responses like this are unnecessary and unhelpful, buses are subject to strict checks at regular intervals not to mention they require MOTs at a higher frequency. As one of the previous posters suggested, if you spot a problem, report it.
Every NXWM bus has an inspection every 28 days, as do every other responsible operator's vehicles, unless they do them even more regularly. The inspection involves 'everything' not just mechanical and every defect found on the 28 day inspection is fixed before the bus is used again. There is no 'fit for service' comments put on an inspection sheet like there can be on a driver's VCR.
For instance one of the Mercedes that were withdrawn this week were because the floor was not level any more and Mercedes do not get any money spent on them any more.
One of the problems found at GRS by the DVSA was there was no records of these 28 day inspections. The Inspector didn't say they hadn't been done, but that he had no proof they had been done. That shows you how important these are.
I am sure if something was rubbing on the underneath or the chassis was breaking this would be identified
Quote from: Tony on August 28, 2015, 06:31:09 PM
Every NXWM bus has an inspection every 28 days, as do every other responsible operator's vehicles, unless they do them even more regularly. The inspection involves 'everything' not just mechanical and every defect found on the 28 day inspection is fixed before the bus is used again. There is no 'fit for service' comments put on an inspection sheet like there can be on a driver's VCR.
For instance one of the Mercedes that were withdrawn this week were because the floor was not level any more and Mercedes do not get any money spent on them any more.
One of the problems found at GRS by the DVSA was there was no records of these 28 day inspections. The Inspector didn't say they hadn't been done, but that he had no proof they had been done. That shows you how important these are.
I am sure if something was rubbing on the underneath or the chassis was breaking this would be identified
There is also guidelines that can reduce the time on inspections due to mileage. You will find some Nat Ex operators will do the coaches on 21 or 14 days as they will run upto 500000kms annually.
Quote from: Tony on August 28, 2015, 06:31:09 PM
Every NXWM bus has an inspection every 28 days, as do every other responsible operator's vehicles, unless they do them even more regularly. The inspection involves 'everything' not just mechanical and every defect found on the 28 day inspection is fixed before the bus is used again. There is no 'fit for service' comments put on an inspection sheet like there can be on a driver's VCR.
For instance one of the Mercedes that were withdrawn this week were because the floor was not level any more and Mercedes do not get any money spent on them any more.
One of the problems found at GRS by the DVSA was there was no records of these 28 day inspections. The Inspector didn't say they hadn't been done, but that he had no proof they had been done. That shows you how important these are.
I am sure if something was rubbing on the underneath or the chassis was breaking this would be identified
@Tony completely agree on all points made. They are VIRs if I'm not mistaken.
@Tony and
@Driver03 are completely right - NX buses are subject to high standards of maintenance. Case in point was 1914 - had it a few months ago and found the suspension was clunking at times rather unhealthily. However within two weeks I rode it again and suspension had clearly been attended to as no clunks and was very smooth again. Very sure that B7RLE will have whatever that sound was attended to very soon - drivers check the vehicles before they go out on the first run anyway and they won't go out unless the bus is perfectly fit for service.
I'm wondering if some of you don't realise that arrifirststage had his tongue firmly in his cheek. The trouble with posting on the internet is that you can't hear tone of voice or see a glint in an eye.
The noise from under the floor I was referring to I can't find anything to use as a similarity but surely to god a 3 and a half year old bus shouldn't have a chassis that creaks and squeaks non stop, nor should there be any knocking noises. They come from somewhere around the rear axle. 2063 has also adorned a tipp ex todger on the back seat since last year.
2009 also has the knocking noise
2017, 2065, 2067, 2068 also have squeaking chassis
Theres one (2005 I think) where the offside destination display hasn't been sealed against the window so it knocks quite loudly against it.
2007, 2028 - most known for faulty door mechanisms that bang open and shut. On Metros and Tridents fair enough.
2006, 2014, 2021 - big CCTV screens still haven't been connected to the pods and are still showing the Sam error message aeons later.
2019 - windows must have been taken from Mercs and cut down to size as they're flimsy as anything.
Apart from the fact that the entire batch rattle like hell and have had their power strangled by tree huggers then they're lovely but I'd still much rather have the Excels back tomorrow.
Just to be clear I am not slating anybody here. But it would seem as though I'm the only one persecuted for having a novice opinion and I apologise if people disagree with those. But if you can no longer query what you feel to be an abnormality then what sort of looney bin do I need to check into?
I'm sorry, goodnight.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on August 28, 2015, 11:27:40 PM
Just to be clear I am not slating anybody here. But it would seem as though I'm the only one persecuted for having a novice opinion and I apologise if people disagree with those. But if you can no longer query what you feel to be an abnormality then what sort of looney bin do I need to check into?
The same one as Moir Lockhead...... :P
Quote from: Stevo on August 28, 2015, 10:09:22 PM
I'm wondering if some of you don't realise that arrifirststage had his tongue firmly in his cheek. The trouble with posting on the internet is that you can't hear tone of voice or see a glint in an eye.
Thank God there is someone else on the forum who has not only a sense of humour but a sense of reality.
Most posters on here take everything so seriously they cannot tell irony from an iron foundry.
Of course it was tongue in cheek,although the bit about English and spelling lessons contained more than a grain of truth.
Thank you Stevo.
Ha ha I'm dying 2 get involved in this debate but my lips r tightly sealed!
Anyways 2112 is here...or is that old news?
Quote from: 4006 on August 29, 2015, 02:14:46 PM
Ha ha I'm dying 2 get involved in this debate but my lips r tightly sealed!
Anyways 2112 is here...or is that old news?
Already mentioned by Tony that 2112/2114 are at WN
4579 is on Rail Replacement heading wolverhampton bound at Sandwell and Dudley
Quote from: 4006 on August 29, 2015, 02:14:46 PM
Ha ha I'm dying 2 get involved in this debate but my lips r tightly sealed!
Anyways 2112 is here...or is that old news?
Not old news, it's fairly new news as Tony have announced the transfers of 2112 and 2114 yesterday.
Quote from: the trainbasher on August 29, 2015, 02:39:14 PM
4579 is on Rail Replacement heading wolverhampton bound at Sandwell and Dudley
So is 4310
Got a text about ten minutes ago to say 662 is withdrawn. Truth or lie?
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on September 01, 2015, 12:40:43 PM
Got a text about ten minutes ago to say 662 is withdrawn. Truth or lie?
Not quite yet, close though
Anyone looking for 2114 it's out on the 11.
Quote from: Dom on September 02, 2015, 09:10:23 AM
Anyone looking for 2114 it's out on the 11.
It has spent the last few days on the 2 so nice to see it elsewherem
Talking of the 11, if anyone wants 620 and the last 3 Spectra's then they seem to stick to the 11's now although 4017 is on Northwood Park's today
Are they likely to be on there on a Saturday?
Thanks,
Dave
Quote from: dingding on September 02, 2015, 09:59:59 AM
Are they likely to be on there on a Saturday?
Thanks,
Dave
Not sure tbh but i'd imagine so. The allocation sheet has been changed as of this week so that all 11/32/33 boards are booked Tridents. If they are out they will be on one of those three routes.
Quote from: dingding on September 02, 2015, 09:59:59 AM
Are they likely to be on there on a Saturday?
Thanks,
Dave
More than likely yes as one stays out until 2330.
No B6's out today with only one Spectra which was on the 11 (Still out tonight on lates)
2011 has broken on Penn Road on 255. The door interlocking system has broken so the alarm is sounding constantly so driver waiting for further instruction.
Swapped with 2013.
Quote from: Dom on September 06, 2015, 10:43:17 AM
2011 has broken on Penn Road on 255. The door interlocking system has broken so the alarm is sounding constantly so driver waiting for further instruction.
Door interlocking doesn't sound an alarm
Quote from: Tony on September 06, 2015, 10:45:18 AM
Door interlocking doesn't sound an alarm
The driver said its to do with the doors and platform.
Don't know if anyone will really care but here are the amendments to WN Destinations, I think there all here
1 - via line now scrolls
5 - via now reads "via claregate & bilbrook" all on one line10- via line now scrolls
27/A - via line now scrolls
28 - via line now scrolls
79 - via line now scrolls - On LEDs
81 - via line now scrolls , also now shows Lodge Farm as a via point 82 - via line now scrolls
255/6 - via line now scrolls
new Cheslyn Hay school services no programmed
Just saw 4018 on Bloxwich Road, towards Walsall. Was nice to see 4018 again.
Quote from: P419 EJW on September 08, 2015, 11:36:48 AM
Just saw 4018 on Bloxwich Road, towards Walsall. Was nice to see 4018 again.
On its way to Miller Street
Quote from: Dom on September 10, 2015, 03:20:25 PM
4020 on WN82. 15:00 off Wolverhampton Bus Station
4141 broken down in Wrens Nest. 4020 took over that running board.
Quote from: P419 EJW on September 10, 2015, 03:23:20 PM
4141 broken down in Wrens Nest. 4020 took over that running board.
Oh ok, good to have it one last time. Also what happened to the Broken down Trident on the 82 this morning around 8:05. Seen with hazards on just past Darlaston Lane.
Well I just got my answer by the looks of it 2017(?) has replaced it.
4141 got fixed and is on 126 now.
529 bus on the 126 today
Quote from: Jack6101 on September 13, 2015, 10:30:44 AM
529 bus on the 126 today
Its not noteworthy as its still a Trident on Trident route, if anything it belongs on the "Route Branded Buses off Route" thread
5406 did last nights (Sunday) A5 Amazon service from Wolverhampton
2018 is on 59 too
2008 just left on 11
Quote from: Nathan on September 14, 2015, 02:35:50 PM
5406 did last nights (Sunday) A5 Amazon service from Wolverhampton
Saw a 1 branded hybrid on Amazon this morning.
Does anybody know what may be on late night 11/32/3's?
Quote from: Dom on September 15, 2015, 05:34:38 PM
Does anybody know what may be on late night 11/32/3's?
Ask
@Nathan.
Quote from: Dom on September 15, 2015, 05:34:38 PM
Does anybody know what may be on late night 11/32/3's?
5405 is one of them. Board 11/06.
620 on the 59 jus left the bus station as a 59E
Quote from: 4006 on September 16, 2015, 05:58:53 PM
620 on the 59 jus left the bus station as a 59E
As mentioned in the Noteworthy thread.
For any late night spotters, 4021 is on a late night as a change bus for 4574
@Liam It happens every single Sunday.
620 and 662 on the 11 today. 4017 on the 32,4020 on the 11 and 4021 on the 529. They seem to be working them to the end. I travelled on 662 and think it is one of the best B6's.
842 has just beeing sit on stand J for a good 25 mins now anyone know why.
10 return ticket branded 2070 and 2071 both on the 255/6 circuit today.
Has 4580 been repaired from fire damage yet ? it was a few months ago on the 79
Just noticed 5420 still has the old destinations programmed.
Also 2 tridents on the 1 yet a hybrid on the 59.
Finally both the B7's on 28 & 79 were swaps as neither were booked.
Wolverhampton apparently 'lost' a couple of buses yesterday which cannot be repaired in time for Monday's morning peak, so it is possible two Spectras may come out on AM peak boards before going to Miller Street
4604 just darted past West Bromwich Bus Station, probably visited the garage for an MOT.
I've heard that NXWM might be having the 62/A back....
Quote from: Nathan on October 06, 2015, 08:20:41 PM
I've heard that NXWM might possibly having the 62/A back....
Apparently its a done deal.
Quote from: Dom on October 06, 2015, 08:21:46 PM
Apparently its a done deal.
I heard that too but i'll believe it when i see it. I see there is still no mention of the 15th November changes.....
Quote from: Nathan on October 06, 2015, 08:25:12 PM
I heard that too but i'll believe it when i see it. I see there is still no mention of the 15th November changes.....
Arriva will not be running the 62 after 15th November unless they register it commercially
Quote from: Tony on October 06, 2015, 08:26:21 PM
Arriva will not be running the 62 after 15th November unless they register it commercially
I'm aware of that. It was mentioned in the Arriva thread. They say it has come to its natural end. Since Arriva took over, every time i caught it there seemed to be considerably less passengers using it than when NX ran iit. I was referring to the changes to the 1,59 and 81.
Quote from: Nathan on October 06, 2015, 08:20:41 PM
I've heard that NXWM might possibly having the 62/A back....
What I've heard is the following
NXWM are to operate the 62 again.
The 62A will be discontinued because I can't think of ten people who used it by the Snuffield even when NX last ran it
The 62 will be reinstated in Finchfield and extended to Castlecroft
A test run with a B7RLE has been done yo decide whether they can negotiate some of the turns in Whitmore Reans/Farmdale, this was apparently done by one of the depot managers
Shoot me down now as I'm expecting to be.
Hopefully timetable improved, current form is pretty poor, runs later on Sundays than any other day for some reason? Been hacked right back and usage possibly dropped accordingly?
Quote from: DiamondDart on October 06, 2015, 09:56:07 PM
Hopefully timetable improved, current form is pretty poor, runs later on Sundays than any other day for some reason? Been hacked right back and usage possibly dropped accordingly?
I found it surprising how many people used the service on Sunday's when NX ran it. Even the later trips (I used to catch the last one from my Nan's in Finchfield) saw a fair few people. A fair few of the passengers on the Farndale Estate and back of Dunstall used it and a fair few had NX travelcards or purchased Daysavers.
I'd imagine E200's would be used on it as opposed to B7's.
Quote from: Nathan on October 06, 2015, 10:04:25 PM
I found it surprising how many people used the service on Sunday's when NX ran it. Even the later trips (I used to catch the last one from my Nan's in Finchfield) saw a fair few people. A fair few of the passengers on the Farndale Estate and back of Dunstall used it and a fair few had NX travelcards or purchased Daysavers.
I'd imagine E200's would be used on it as opposed to B7's.
Re vehicle allocation I queried that and my source was adamant it would be B7RLE's.
Re patronage. It was mostly concession passes but there were also a fair few daily/regular during the week fare payers and Travelcard holders, many on the sideroads but also many who could have used more frequent services and it was handy for about 5 NX drivers who lived on the route.
Patronage has declined but Arriva are not at fault.
What didn't help was the belief that NX "wanted rid of the contract" and Centro did their head counting thing on what I recall to be a quieter week on the route. However the antics of a couple of NX drivers is partly to blame for lost mileage/loss of loyal passengers.
The 529 which runs from Walsall to Wolverhampton and 69/89, would it not be better to have the buses started service/ending service at Walsall run from Walsall Garage and buses starting and ending at Wolverhampton run from Wolverhampton garage? this would surely, reduce dead running times bus millage, and less drivers required overall. 529 uses 14 buses, 12 AM/to afternoon then 13/14 come out at 1515 and start at some schools.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on October 06, 2015, 09:54:58 PM
What I've heard is the following
NXWM are to operate the 62 again.
The 62A will be discontinued because I can't think of ten people who used it by the Snuffield even when NX last ran it
The 62 will be reinstated in Finchfield and extended to Castlecroft
A test run with a B7RLE has been done yo decide whether they can negotiate some of the turns in Whitmore Reans/Farmdale, this was apparently done by one of the depot managers
Shoot me down now as I'm expecting to be.
But why extend the 62 to Castlecroft? Is this to maximise the time the bus is out on the road, in an attempt to cut down layover time interworking with another route? If so, then how much additional time is there spare?
Because I would have thought the most obvious extension for the 62 from White Oak Drive - is left into Castlecroft Road, then right into Finchfield Lane and down to Merry Hill Five Ways. This would also create a route 29 mins long, but more importantly will also bridge a 4 min link in the missing "western radial" between Finchfield and Merry Hill. At present the quickest journey by "public transport" is a 15 min WALK!
Five new(*) stops would be created.
White Oak Drive opp Brantley Avenue (used by 3)
(*)Finchfield Lane, adj Meadow Road
(*)Finchfield Lane, adj Wooton Road
(*)Finchfield Lane, before 5 Ways (62 terminus)
----turn around 5 ways island----
(*)Finchfield Lane, after 5 Ways (62 start to city)
Finchfield Lane, adj Adams Road (used by 751)
(*)Finchfield Lane, adj Westfield Grove
White Oak Drive adj Brantley Avenue (used by 3)But why stop there? Better still, would be to extend the 62 route two stops further on from Merry Hill Five Ways along the route of the 4 via Leasowes Drive and terminate in Warstones Drive - to connect with 2 (Warstones and Penn Fields) as well as the 4 to Springhill - and turn the 62 bus back towards the city using the traffic island in Warstones Road (or Oxbarn Island). This will increase the total journey time to 31 mins. Only 2 mins more than the suggested Castlecroft solution - but is there enough time to layover and keep to 30 min frequency while interworking with another route?
There are huge benefits to be made getting the 62 to Warstones Drive.
For example. Take a trip from Warstones Drive to Compton Square. A journey of 1.5 miles between two local shopping hubs in the West of Wolverhampton, each with further bus connections elsewhere on conventional arterial corridors.
Existing Journey times for the 1.5 mile journey:
5mins car
27mins bus + walk (4 to Trysull Road, opp Attwell Park, 24mins walk to Compton Square)
30mins walk
31mins bus + walk (4 to Merridale Lane, 3 to White Oak Drive, 8 min walk to Compton Sq.)
37mins bus + walk + bus (4 to Chapel Ash, 2min walk to St Marks Church for 10 to Compton Square)
41mins bus (+ walk!) + bus (2 to Bus Station for 10 to Compton Square)As you can see Bus travel is a poor alternative to the car with these timings. It is quicker to WALK in 30 mins than wait for a bus! But with the 62 starting from Warstones Drive - not only is the journey direct but the time taken is slashed to 8 mins! And competitive with the car.
This would be a huge benefit to bus users in the west. In that if Wolverhampton were a cake then you no longer have to travel from the edge of the cake east to the centre to then travel back out westwards to the edge - to cut a long thin wedge of cake. Instead, with the 62, you are getting the icing on the cake - travelling the radial across the thin slice in mins.
The West of Wolverhampton is crying out for its own radial like the East's route 25. By terminating the 62 in Warstones Drive bus users then have good connections to Penn Fields, Warstones and Springhill, thus linking those areas by bus to Merry Hill (4,62), Finchfield (3,62), Compton (9,10,62), Newbridge (1,8,891 4min walk to 62,
handy if a bus stop was added nearer to meadow View) and Claregate (5,6,62) via one direct Western radial route - thus linking these centres in minutes - and for arterial destinations elsewhere.
And I agree with
@Nathan and
@DiamondDart in that the service hours should be extended - to at least 7am to 7pm. Even hourly until end of service - ASDA is open 24 hours - and there are many restaurants open late in Warstones, Finchfield and Compton which could be served far quicker along that radial corridor - which at present would be a taxi or a much longer journey into town on two buses. Or WALK!
If time constraints are an issue and the 62 can only be extended by 4mins from White Oak Drive - then as Castlecroft is already served from White Oak Drive by route 3 - it would make far more sense to route the 62 to Merry Hill as the alternative at present is a 15 min walk.
How can people be encouraged to use public transport if there is no public transport to use? So is it any wonder why bus journeys are decreasing, and why so many choose to turn to their more convenient cars?
I'm told 4580 is repaired and back at WN
Quote from: Nathan on October 10, 2015, 05:02:19 PM
I'm told 4580 is repaired and back at WN
Been back over a week
@Trident 4194 Not rare in the slightest happens EVERY SINGLE BLOODY WEEK! It's booked for some reason
Quote from: Dom on October 10, 2015, 05:59:27 PM
@Trident 4194 Not rare in the slightest happens EVERY SINGLE BLOODY WEEK! It's booked for some reason
Sorry don't know WN allocations very well!
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 10, 2015, 06:20:49 PM
Sorry don't know WN allocations very well!
Why have you deleted your comment? The rest of us can't see what you said to make sense as to why the other guy is shouting at you.
It's quite annoying when certain people always delete comments if they're wrong. Are you ashamed? Everyone makes mistakes, so please don't delete your comments.
Quote from: MW on October 10, 2015, 08:17:29 PM
Why have you deleted your comment? The rest of us can't see what you said to make sense as to why the other guy is shouting at you.
It's quite annoying when certain people always delete comments if they're wrong. Are you ashamed? Everyone makes mistakes, so please don't delete your comments.
I didn't delete comment, Tony did I think I said 2114 on 81
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 10, 2015, 08:26:39 PM
I didn't delete comment, Tony did I think I said 2114 on 81
Not me
Quote from: Tony on October 10, 2015, 08:28:30 PM
Not me
My apologies Dom had referenced in the WN thread which was the correct thing to do, no one has deleted comments
Quote from: MW on October 10, 2015, 08:17:29 PM
Why have you deleted your comment? The rest of us can't see what you said to make sense as to why the other guy is shouting at you.
It's quite annoying when certain people always delete comments if they're wrong. Are you ashamed? Everyone makes mistakes, so please don't delete your comments.
I think part of the problem is not being able to comment on posts in the Noteworth workings thread, you instead have to go to the individual garage thread, which can cause confusion as sometimes an obscure comment will appear.
If i want to comment on a post in Noteworthy workings, i click on quote and copy the particlar item, then go to appropriate garage, press reply and then click paste. Then you can see what is being commented on.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 10, 2015, 08:36:33 PM
I think part of the problem is not being able to comment on posts in the Noteworth workings thread, you instead have to go to the individual garage thread, which can cause confusion as sometimes an obscure comment will appear.
If i want to comment on a post in Noteworthy workings, i click on quote and copy the particlar item, then go to appropriate garage, press reply and then click paste. Then you can see what is being commented on.
Or the person who wants to make a comment about a noteworthy working that has been posted should be more clear in what they are saying.
Quote from: Nathan on October 10, 2015, 09:55:54 PM
Or the person who wants to make a comment about a noteworthy working that has been posted should be more clear in what they are saying.
I think I was very clear in what I was saying as trident 4194 made one comment in the noteworthy workings thread. Plus I mention it in this thread almost every other week!
Quote from: Dom on October 10, 2015, 09:58:11 PM
I think I was very clear in what I was saying as trident 4194 made one comment in the noteworthy workings thread. Plus I mention it in this thread almost every other week!
That wasn't specifically referencing you :) I was just saying in general.
There were two 126's together in Wolverhampton Bus Station about 21:10 this evening. A driver told me he heard over the radio about an accident or some sort of incident on Hagley Rd. Any ideas. As mentioned in the NW thread, one of those 126's was 2028.
Personally I don't see the point in the noteworthy workings thread as it is impossible to reply without incurring the wrath of certain people, it's not mobile user friendly and the garage threads get the same workings discussed as it is.
Furthermore the rule about not being able to discuss things on the noteworthy workings threads play contrary to the efficiency of the forum and provide an elitist attitude towards some more "distinguished members".
Quote from: the trainbasher on October 10, 2015, 10:05:17 PM
Personally I don't see the point in the noteworthy workings thread as it is impossible to reply without incurring the wrath of certain people, it's not mobile user friendly and the garage threads get the same workings discussed as it is.
Furthermore the rule about not being able to discuss things on the noteworthy workings threads play contrary to the efficiency of the forum and provide an elitist attitude towards some more "distinguished members".
It's impossible to reply in the 'Noteworthy Workings' as you're not required to reply! Like many other topics on the forum it caused too many arguments / to the point Stu took it upon himself to create a spreadsheet of vehicle allocations. The rules brought in by LS / Tony have been in place for 12 months & still people can't get to grips with not replying.
Quote from: Winston on October 10, 2015, 10:31:31 PM
It's impossible to reply in the 'Noteworthy Workings' as you're not required to reply! Like many other topics on the forum it caused too many arguments / to the point Stu took it upon himself to create a spreadsheet of vehicle allocations. The rules brought in by LS / Tony have been in place for 12 months & still people can't get to grips with not replying.
Yeah people can't get to grips with not replying because it is a rule which provides a lack of efficiency insofar as proved by the anarchism that is showing on this thread and others.
Furthermore, the object, believe it or not, of a forum is to discuss topics, and by prohibiting discussion in the relevant topic is proving contrary to the point mentioned herein.
In addition, and I'm sure that the membership agree, the way it was previously set up allowed for discussion that allowed less cluttering of other threads, insofar as allowing the other threads to be used to discuss their relative topics.
Quote from: the trainbasher on October 10, 2015, 10:40:23 PM
Yeah people can't get to grips with not replying because it is a rule which provides a lack of efficiency insofar as proved by the anarchism that is showing on this thread and others.
Furthermore, the object, believe it or not, of a forum is to discuss topics, and by prohibiting discussion in the relevant topic is proving contrary to the point mentioned herein.
In addition, and I'm sure that the membership agree, the way it was previously set up allowed for discussion that allowed less cluttering of other threads, insofar as allowing the other threads to be used to discuss their relative topics.
A Noteworthy Working doesn't need discussing, reporting only!
The object of rules, believe it or not set and those created by 'the forum owner' is to abide by them, you have 2998 other topics in which to discuss!
Discussion closed.
Quote from: Winston on October 10, 2015, 10:48:33 PM
A Noteworthy Working doesn't need discussing, reporting only!
The object of rules, believe it or not set and those created by 'the forum owner' is to abide by them, you have 2998 other topics in which to discuss!
Discussion closed.
*salutes* Yes sir Winston sir! I was merely trying to provide the point that the rule regarding the noteworthy workings is backwards and is causing a detrimental effect to the forum.
Obviously it is proved that I am not allowed an opinion, meaning that obviously my place on this delightful forum, I may review.
Quote from: the trainbasher on October 10, 2015, 11:03:00 PM
*salutes* Yes sir Winston sir! I was merely trying to provide the point that the rule regarding the noteworthy workings is backwards and is causing a detrimental effect to the forum.
Obviously it is proved that I am not allowed an opinion, meaning that obviously my place on this delightful forum, I may review.
I guess if you don't like the forum, the solution would be to leave and/or create your own. Oh wait... ::)
Quote from: the trainbasher on October 10, 2015, 11:03:00 PM
*salutes* Yes sir Winston sir! I was merely trying to provide the point that the rule regarding the noteworthy workings is backwards and is causing a detrimental effect to the forum.
Obviously it is proved that I am not allowed an opinion, meaning that obviously my place on this delightful forum, I may review.
Please don't let us stop you from reviewing your place on this forum, it seems 'the membership' didn't agree with your previous opinions and *failed* attempt to set up a rival forum.
As you failed leave it there (see forum rules) have 7 days to consider your place!
Quote from: Dom on October 10, 2015, 05:59:27 PM
@Trident 4194 Not rare in the slightest happens EVERY SINGLE BLOODY WEEK! It's booked for some reason
There were absolutely no need for that attitude towards to someone who was unfamiliar with the Wolverhampton bus allocations. You might want to revise your language.
4148 now a PL bus. Was on Amazon Friday evening. Sorry I can't sleep.
Quote from: Dom on October 10, 2015, 05:59:27 PM
@Trident 4194 Not rare in the slightest happens EVERY SINGLE BLOODY WEEK! It's booked for some reason
I was bamboozled by this until I realised it was a response to an alleged noteworthy working from a completely different thread (I've learned you sometimes have to hunt around on this forum - eg the NXWM last Merc etc day, which decamped mid thread to General Discussion). It all adds to the fun of the forum however. I'm sure it's been debated before but it does seem there's a certain amount of preciousness over what does and doesn't constitute a noseworthy working to the extent some people get quite excitable!! Surely the issue here is what constitutes 'noteworthy' which presumably means rare. As has been stated before this means different things to different people and I'm not sure the garage route allocations spreadsheet assists in this context, although it's a very interesting piece of work.
I would have thought that one timing a day at a point with tens or hundreds of journeys a day constitutes rare - to the casual or infrequent observer. But not to someone who lives near the route or drives/works on it and spends lots of their time observing it.
Maybe a 'rule' on what noteworthy means would help. I'm not sure the current arrangements assist the casual or occasional observer and result in the 'that's not 'insert require expletive' noteworthy working' syndrome, because thrice a day on bank holidays only is not noteworthy to them - however entertaining that is.
Right I feel as if now I am required to explain myself as to why I reacted how I did yesterday to
@Trident 4194 post about 2114 being on the 81.
Firstly I apologise to
@Trident 4194 If I came across rude or aggresive it was not meant to come across that way.
Secondly, the reason I reacted how I did is because every other week someone reports a B7RLE on the 81 as noteworthy. It is not noteworthy as for about a month and a half it has been booked from Garage, the running board has B7 Single Deck printed on it. I don't know why this is but it is. I reacted how I did yesterday is because every other week it is reported as noteworthy by someone or another and it isn't noteworthy. I feel noteworthy is something that does not happen on a regular basis, so for example on a weekday a E200 on the WN2 is noteworthy as it does not happen everyday/on a regular basis. Whilst a B7 on the 81 happens every saturday therefore is not noteworthy. The reason I mention that fact to people is because it kind of makes people delusional, some of you may say if your sick of posting it then don' bother but I feel people should know that it is not noteworthy. I post it when it happens because I just wish to make people aware, I have posted it quite a few times now so yeah...
I have also mentioned it to be added to the spreadsheet.
Quote from: Dom on September 19, 2015, 07:14:19 PM
In the other allocations of WN81 you could put that there is a board allocated a B7, saves people posting it as noteworthy when it happens every week
Quote from: Dom on September 19, 2015, 07:14:19 PM
Quote from: Dom on August 08, 2015, 09:46:41 PM
@RS there is always a B7 on the 81 on a Saturday. It is booked on!
Quote from: Dom on July 18, 2015, 05:35:25 PM
81/05 is now booked a B7
Quote from: Dom on July 04, 2015, 10:33:32 AM
@jack4325 81/05 the board 2063 is on is now booked as a B7RLE so not noteworthy
Quote from: Dom on October 10, 2015, 05:59:27 PM
@Trident 4194 Not rare in the slightest happens EVERY SINGLE BLOODY WEEK! It's booked for some reason
There just a few I've found by having a quick skim. I apologise if this comes across as a rant but I had to get it off my chest becuase I felt as if I was being attacked for just stating a fact :( .
Dom - if it's a regularly scheduled working that's v interesting - and I see the point. However for many observers that's rare enough to be noteworthy to them. To others its irritating when others each see it for the first time and post.
Quote from: don on October 11, 2015, 11:30:58 AM
Dom - if it's a regularly scheduled working that's v interesting - and I see the point. However for many observers that's rare enough to be noteworthy to them. To others its irritating when others each see it for the first time and post.
@don this is exactly the problem with the 'Noteworthy Working' thread & why is causes some many disagreements, what is Noteworthy to one, isn't Noteworthy to another. It is impossible to set a 'rule' to cover each & ever sceanrio of what is/isn't classed as a Noteworthy working, Stu's spreadsheet was designed to help identify what is/isn't 'Noteworthy' especially for those members that don't live in the area/see the route allocations on a daily basis. With all the issues the 'Noteworthy Workings' threads cause, they would be better off being scrapped permanently.
Quote from: Winston on October 11, 2015, 11:47:05 AM
@don this is exactly the problem with the 'Noteworthy Working' thread & why is causes some many disagreements, what is Noteworthy to one, isn't Noteworthy to another. It is impossible to set a 'rule' to cover each & ever sceanrio of what is/isn't classed as a Noteworthy working, Stu's spreadsheet was designed to help identify what is/isn't 'Noteworthy' especially for those members that don't live in the area/see the route allocations on a daily basis. With all the issues the 'Noteworthy Workings' threads cause, they would be better off being scrapped permanently.
I see the point Winston but both the thread and the spreadsheet are interesting for enthusiasts - as you say, there will always be disagreements and I was being a little tongue in cheek about a rule being developed. I think if people see this on a probability type basis over a whole route then they would realise that one board in an entire week will be noteworthy - even though that one board is booked for that usage. After all it would mean a few more posts in the noteworthy thread that those, like Dom, in the know could ignore or just state its booked for that vehicle type (as that would be of interest to some photographers anyway, after a rare photo).
An example of one from yesteryear - one if the Birmingham Swifts was used on a peak weekday working on route 32 daily - it appears in photos in books - it was a daily occurrence that virtually no enthusiasts knew about or even saw unless they used that corridor - surely a great rarity compared with other routes that were associated with. But probably not noteworthy on the way matters are dealt with here .....
Quote from: don on October 11, 2015, 11:30:58 AM
Dom - if it's a regularly scheduled working that's v interesting - and I see the point. However for many observers that's rare enough to be noteworthy to them. To others its irritating when others each see it for the first time and post.
I tend to put workings like that in the actual garage thread as I am not always sure if it is noteworthy or not i.e either an Omnilink/city on the PB94 I would put it in the PB thread as opposed to the NW thread but that's just me personally.
Quote from: Squiz1971 on October 11, 2015, 12:12:56 PM
I tend to put workings like that in the actual garage thread as I am not always sure if it is noteworthy or not i.e either an Omnilink/city on the PB94 I would put it in the PB thread as opposed to the NW thread but that's just me personally.
Exactly.
Don't bother with the Noteworthy thread at all.
If certain people want the info, then they can find it.
Life's too short to mess about with this subject!
A b7 on a weekday on the 81 is noteworthy but not in a weekend
That's like saying an mmc on 141 is unusual in week but not on weekend. lOGIC
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 12, 2015, 06:50:34 PM
A b7 on a weekday on the 81 is noteworthy but not in a weekend
That's like saying an mmc on 141 is unusual in week but not on weekend. lOGIC
There is a running board on a Saturday that is allocated a B7 for some reason. They shouldn't be on there in the week.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 12, 2015, 06:50:34 PM
A b7 on a weekday on the 81 is noteworthy but not in a weekend
That's like saying an mmc on 141 is unusual in week but not on weekend. lOGIC
It's a fact, I'm not making it up for the sake of it!
@Trident 4194 Look at the top left of the running board on a Weekeday 81/05 is ENVIRO 200. On a Saturday its B7 SINGLE DECK. It's a route that goes directly passed my house I think I should know what's meant to be on it.
I'm just asking this out of curiosty, although I doubt anyone will know, when WN operated the old 583 did any double deckers get on to it? As it's main allocation was excels and ocassionally Mercs would get on there. I was told there was a picture on Flickr of one on there but can't find it.
Quote from: Dom on October 13, 2015, 06:54:52 PM
I'm just asking this out of curiosty, although I doubt anyone will know, when WN operated the old 583 did any double deckers get on to it? As it's main allocation was excels and ocassionally Mercs would get on there. I was told there was a picture on Flickr of one on there but can't find it.
It was a mix of Excels/Mercs, maybe the odd B10L when PL had them. I do recall seeing a picture or two of Spectras on it.
4591 has come out on WN1. A swap for 5418.
Anyone looking not due back to garage until 23:48 ( RB 1/53)
@Liam. Just to clarify 2025 is a peak time extra on the 59. B7RLE's do sometimes fill in for Tridents if there isn't one avaliable at the time.
2002 has been on the 255 since 10:00 hrs this morning having replaced 4573 which broke down on Bridgnorth Road near the Waggon and Horses while working the 08:30 hrs service from Merry Hill. The Trident was still there an hour later with hazards flashing.
Anyone know if passenger numbers have improved on the 154? Since Arriva took the 70 out of Cheslyn hay? It's got to be faster than the ridiculous 71
As it is being posted on Facebook by WN staff, yes it is true. WN will be getting 1571; 1591 & 1594 temporarily
Quote from: Tony on October 23, 2015, 11:07:13 AM
As it is being posted on Facebook by WN staff, yes it is true. WN will be getting 1571; 1591 & 1594 temporarily
Can't imagine it will be for long? Presumably to allow us to have enough buses to cover Amazon.
Amazing over the years how many Coventry buses have finished their days at other garages!
Mercs coming out of retirement to show the new kids how it's done.
Quote from: Tony on October 23, 2015, 11:07:13 AM
As it is being posted on Facebook by WN staff, yes it is true. WN will be getting 1571; 1591 & 1594 temporarily
Will, they be repainted
@Tony?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 23, 2015, 04:48:10 PM
Will, they be repainted @Tony?
Nope because they'll only be here for like a month maybe two max thats it so isn't really worth the cost.
Anyone know when they're going? I'm back in Brum until Monday, would be a shame if I missed their last day in CV.
wouldn't it have made more sense to use the spectras a bit longer
Quote from: JoNi on October 23, 2015, 11:21:45 AM
Amazing over the years how many Coventry buses have finished their days at other garages!
I remember Walsall finishing off the ex Coventry Fleetlines years ago.
Quote from: Tony on October 23, 2015, 11:07:13 AM
As it is being posted on Facebook by WN staff, yes it is true. WN will be getting 1571; 1591 & 1594 temporarily
Will they make normal service
Or more preferably a b10 or b6
What about 4319!? Shouldn't that be heading to Wolverhampton, where it belongs around any time now!?
Hi guys. Does anyone know when the first Merc is supposed to arrive at WN?
Quote from: lauren1993 on October 24, 2015, 02:05:25 AM
What about 4319!? Shouldn't that be heading to Wolverhampton, where it belongs around any time now!?
No
4580 finally back in service after fire damage repairs. Worked the Peak Time Extra 54E's to i54.
@Nathan4775 In relation to your post in the Noteworthy Workings thread, There is a running board in an afternoon which does a couple of 54E's to i54 from Wolverhampton. It is booked as a Trident as it comes off a school (Just doesn't do the school during Half Term).
Can't be long before mercs move surely?
The Mercs have just gained side adverts for November 26th Coventry Christmas lights switch on, so should be moving very soon!
Quote from: Nathan on October 30, 2015, 05:33:19 PM
@Nathan4775 In relation to your post in the Noteworthy Workings thread, There is a running board in an afternoon which does a couple of 54E's to i54 from Wolverhampton. It is booked as a Trident as it comes off a school (Just doesn't do the school during Half Term).
Thanks for the info Nathan
5401 is a late night board on the 256 too!
@900 most likely the swap for 4141
4556 is parked up on West Bromwich High Street, towards Wolvo. Looked like it has broken down.
5406 has gained a name. Can't remember what it was though.
There will be a few Tridents across the 2/3/4 today. Usually happens every year when the Himley Shuttles take place. Don't know why although i think these may come off at the end of their boards and run private to Coseley, Stourbridge, Halesowen or Dudley.
2001 and 2018 are on the 25.
Quote from: Nathan on November 07, 2015, 08:31:41 AM
There will be a few Tridents across the 2/3/4 today. Usually happens every year when the Himley Shuttles take place. Don't know why although i think these may come off at the end of their boards and run private to Coseley, Stourbridge, Halesowen or Dudley.
2001 and 2018 are on the 25. I think the 11's and 25's are mostly if not all Single Deck today.
Three Tridents on the 11.
Nathan they probably on earlier finishing boards so they can be turned around for tonight in time. seen unusual workings like this every year for a while now
Quote from: mranon on November 07, 2015, 12:45:21 PM
Nathan they probably on earlier finishing boards so they can be turned around for tonight in time. seen unusual workings like this every year for a while now
I know that. 3 boards on the 1 are booked Tridents for today (First 2 boards were Tridents)
Couple to 3 B7s on the 82 today
Quote from: Dom on November 07, 2015, 04:35:36 PM
Couple to 3 B7s on the 82 today
The 82 is fully B7RLE booked today (Say's B7 Single Deck on the allocation sheet)
Quote from: Nathan on November 07, 2015, 04:57:01 PM
The 82 is fully B7RLE booked today (Say's B7 Single Deck on the allocation sheet)
4573 is on there.
854 currently parked in Wolverhampton Bus Station unaware as to why considering the 54 & 154 don't run on sundays. Just left at 9:24
Quote from: Dom on November 08, 2015, 09:24:11 AM
854 currently parked in Wolverhampton Bus Station unaware as to why considering the 54 & 154 don't run on sundays. Just left at 9:24
Could be route training for the 62 which starts next Sunday?
Does anyone know if the tridents will ever be replaced on the 126?
Quote from: Trident4590 on November 09, 2015, 11:57:20 AM
Does anyone know if the tridents will ever be replaced on the 126?
I would have thought so. By 2050 at least :)
Quote from: Trident4590 on November 09, 2015, 11:57:20 AM
Does anyone know if the tridents will ever be replaced on the 126?
Yes they will be at some point. But NX don't usually announce route upgrades or new deliveries until very close to when it actually happens. There's always rumours, but plans can change right up until the last minute. So it's always a case of wait and see.
New transfers:
4200 - 714 PM which I think goes into a normal route
4201 - 59 16:36 from Wolverhampton
4202 - 25 departure was around 16:20 from Wolverhampton
EDIT: 5403 now has a name, it looked to be Balvinder Kaur or something similar.
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on November 09, 2015, 04:36:44 PM
New transfers:
4200 - 714 PM which I think goes into a normal route
4201 - 59 16:36 from Wolverhampton
4202 - 25 departure was around 16:20 from Wolverhampton
EDIT: 5403 now has a name, it looked to be Balvinder Kaur or something similar.
All of 5401-21 are named.
2013 on the 59 is a change bus for 4312. Board 59/04.
2029 is the afternoon peak time extra. Board 59/14.
And the first 62 is... 843!
Quote from: Dom on November 15, 2015, 10:02:47 AM
And the first 62 is... 843!
Pretty sure that appeared on the last Sunday run last year.
Is it likely the 154 will end when i54 funding does? Is it next April? Can't imagine it would turn a profit
Quote from: Bob on November 15, 2015, 01:42:39 PM
Is it likely the 154 will end when i54 funding does? Is it next April? Can't imagine it would turn a profit
Staffs County Council would have to put up a tender for it surely?
Is it doing that badly?
What about the 54?
Quote from: Westy on November 15, 2015, 03:04:27 PM
Staffs County Council would have to put up a tender for it surely?
Is it doing that badly?
What about the 54?
The Cannock to Hednesford section of the 154 is quiet. Apart from that, both services are well used. Passengers think the NX services are more reliable and cheaper. A good example, the 2205 Stafford to Wolverhampton a few Saturdays back carried about 20 to 30 people end to end. You get similar numbers on the evening 154's regularly.
751 is about to leave Wolverhampton Bus Station on the 11 while 752 is parked up at Stand U.
EDIT: 752 also went onto the 11 a short while later. When 751 left, it was standing room only and very little standing room at that.
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on November 16, 2015, 04:09:08 PM
751 is about to leave Wolverhampton Bus Station on the 11 while 752 is parked up at Stand U.
Does that mean both 62 boards go onto another route? Would make sense due to the early finishes. Well thats if they were on the 62 in the first place mind
4 number 1's in convoy on Chapel Ash towards Dudley as I type, the front two are 2004 and 4552
845 on the 2 also.
Quote from: Dom on November 16, 2015, 04:11:05 PM
Does that mean both 62 boards go onto another route? Would make sense due to the early finishes. Well thats if they were on the 62 in the first place mind
Yes, a 62 board does 11's before and afterwards. This used to be the case when NX had the route before.
Quote from: Nathan on November 16, 2015, 06:16:38 PM
Yes, a 62 board does 11's before and afterwards. This used to be the case when NX had the route before.
Do you know until what time?
Quote from: Dom on November 16, 2015, 06:17:12 PM
Do you know until what time?
Not sure but appears to be the case. 751/2 were both on the 62 today so one board appears to go onto 11's.
I'll find out for you.
Quote from: Nathan on November 16, 2015, 06:19:29 PM
Not sure but appears to be the case. 751/2 were both on the 62 today so one board appears to go onto 11's.
I'll find out for you.
If it's anything like it used to be then the E200 would do 2 or 3 morning trips on the 11, be swapped with a vehicle on a schools running board. The school vehicle would then swap with the 62 vehicle and do a school then back to garage. The E200 I assume would do 2 or 3 trips on the 11. The old board used to finish at Underhill not long after 6pm.
It may be like that again but it probably isn't. It's just a rough estimate for you.
Nice to see NXWM back on the 62/A again, the passengers must also be happy not to have the old batterered darts bellowing out black smoke, the one thing NXWM may have trouble with is keeping to the timetable seeing it is the same timetable arrive operated to & the buses never managed to keep to the timetable.
Quote from: woody38 on November 16, 2015, 06:36:52 PM
Nice to see NXWM back on the 62/A again, the passengers must also be happy not to have the old batterered darts bellowing out black smoke, the one thing NXWM may have trouble with is keeping to the timetable seeing it is the same timetable arrive operated to & the buses never managed to keep to the timetable.
The 62/62A could be profitable, commercial routes if whoever takes it on actually made an effort with it. As in a more manageable timetable, greater number of operating hours, more places served.
752 on WN28
Usually the 84* or 86*
844 is on the 62.
I thought they could not get LWB E200 on the 62 that why they had 751/752
Quote from: 900 on November 17, 2015, 12:29:06 PM
752 on WN28
Usually the 84* or 86*
844 is on the 62.
I thought they could not get LWB E200 on the 62 that why they had 751/752
Yes they can get LWB E200's on the 62! 843 was on there on Sunday.
Quote from: 900 on November 17, 2015, 12:29:06 PM
I thought they could not get LWB E200 on the 62 that why they had 751/752
One would have thought that WN would have got two more E200s as the PVR has increased and obviously to provide a spare. I'm going on the presumption that 751 and 752 are both SWB here, so if the idea was that WN would have a SWB for 62s as maybe it was thought that they would not need LWB E200s for the route then there is one spare...but at the end of the day, an E200 is an E200, so they've put an E200 on an E200 route.
Sorry if that didn't actually make any sense at all...
Quote from: T840MAK on November 17, 2015, 03:33:16 PM
One would have thought that WN would have got two more E200s as the PVR has increased and obviously to provide a spare. I'm going on the presumption that 751 and 752 are both SWB here, so if the idea was that WN would have a SWB for 62s as maybe it was thought that they would not need LWB E200s for the route then there is one spare...but at the end of the day, an E200 is an E200, so they've put an E200 on an E200 route.
Sorry if that didn't actually make any sense at all...
They were moved as iirc it was said after the service changes at West Brom, they do not require as many SWB E200's and the only ideal place to send them to was WN for 62's.
Although i can see what he is on about. Although, yes an E200 is an E200, i wouldn't want to be on one on the 81! The LWB examples don't seem to cope with loadings especially at Peak Times. Same with the 28, come peak time it will be packed!
saw an swb e200 on 11 rammed. so if as previously the 62 board covers 11s as well, the e200 swb wasn't sufficient last night.
Quote from: mranon on November 17, 2015, 04:14:42 PM
saw an swb e200 on 11 rammed. so if as previously the 62 board covers 11s as well, the e200 swb wasn't sufficient last night.
The B6's weren't sufficient most days either.
There's been a LWB E200 on the 62A today.
Quote from: mranon on November 17, 2015, 04:14:42 PM
saw an swb e200 on 11 rammed. so if as previously the 62 board covers 11s as well, the e200 swb wasn't sufficient last night.
I can confirm both 62 boards start and finish on the 11.
Watch out for a bit of a varied allocation from WN today, buses may of grown on some routes and shrunk on others ;)
@Roy There are still some boards that do 256/7's only that are still Tridents. About 10 out of 18/19 boards are Single Deck. (All 255/6/7's are 255/** numbered boards regardless of whether they do 255's or not)
Boards that have any 255 trips on it are B7RLE operated. Tridents on the 2,3 and 4 as expected.
Also, 4959 seen leaving Wolverhampton City Centre at Lunchtime being driven down Bilston Rd by an engineer. I assume this has payed Park Lane a visit?
I wonder why?
Sutton Branded E400 seen on the ring road at around 4 o clock heading towards Bilston street island
Can anyone confirm what bus did the 16:00 dep on the 81 please.
Quote from: Dom on November 20, 2015, 04:37:27 PM
Can anyone confirm what bus did the 16:00 dep on the 81 please.
2066
Quote from: Dom on November 20, 2015, 04:14:49 PM
I wonder why?
There's a tree problem near Swindon which South Staffs District Council have been asked to sort out.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on November 15, 2015, 03:39:33 PM
The Cannock to Hednesford section of the 154 is quiet. Apart from that, both services are well used. Passengers think the NX services are more reliable and cheaper. A good example, the 2205 Stafford to Wolverhampton a few Saturdays back carried about 20 to 30 people end to end. You get similar numbers on the evening 154's regularly.
Between Cannock and Wolverhampton and vice versa??? I've caught the 20.30 from Cannock on a Sat evening quite a few times with mates on a night out and theres been barely anyone on it apart from us. Not sure about the other trips maybe they're busier. Arriva are now running more 70s through Cheslyn hay ( another example of how f####'g stupid they are was the X70! ) so that might have an impact on the 154. Although there's been complaints about the reliability of the 71 with regular delays on the 76 having a big effect plus general unreliability of the buses Arriva have been using on it so maybe the NX being more reliable has proved true. As I said before more competition is good, another operator from Cannock to Walsall would floor arriva after the utter mess they made of the 1 & 2
There's a B7RLE on the 54/154
4594 did the 0731 3 from Castlecroft. Its last journey will be the 2319 4E from Spring Hill
What is going on with WN allocations at the moment!
I understand the 255 issue but B7's on the 54/154, 59 & 79 ON A SATURDAY!
Quote from: Dom on November 21, 2015, 11:34:47 AM
What is going on with WN allocations at the moment!
I understand the 255 issue but B7's on the 54/154, 59 & 79 ON A SATURDAY!
A B7 on the 154 would be awesome!
Quote from: Dom on November 21, 2015, 11:34:47 AM
What is going on with WN allocations at the moment!
I understand the 255 issue but B7's on the 54/154, 59 & 79 ON A SATURDAY!
The ones on the 59 and 79 are the booked vehicle listed on the allocation sheet.
@Nathan Has the problem with the tree been solved in Swindon?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 21, 2015, 04:06:55 PM
@Nathan Has the problem with the tree been solved in Swindon?
Not yet. Its up to Staffs County Council to sort. They need to though with Christmas coming up!
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 21, 2015, 04:06:55 PM
@Nathan Has the problem with the tree been solved in Swindon?
trees still havnt been cut back round Norton on the 276 note on booking out sheet no deckers to be used on 276
What worries me is, with all the council cutbacks, how many more trees are going to disrupt bus route because the council can't afford to cut them back.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 21, 2015, 06:44:12 PM
What worries me is, with all the council cutbacks, how many more trees are going to disrupt bus route because the council can't afford to cut them back.
IIRC in the past many bus operators did their own tree lopping, often using a decker that had lost an arguement with a low bridge!
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on November 21, 2015, 07:10:41 PM
IIRC in the past many bus operators did their own tree lopping, often using a decker that had lost an arguement with a low bridge!
Yes, Bristol Omnibus Company had a Bristol KSW that failed to make it under a low bridge. It was C8108 (OHY 965).
http://flickriver-lb-1710691658.us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com/photos/7964319@N03/5313470892/ (http://flickriver-lb-1710691658.us-east-1.elb.amazonaws.com/photos/7964319@N03/5313470892/)
Does anybody know if 4594 broke down last night? Apparently the 2130 3 from town to Castlecroft didn't run.
How many trident do WN have in total?
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on November 22, 2015, 04:18:45 PM
Does anybody know if 4594 broke down last night? Apparently the 2130 3 from town to Castlecroft didn't run.
Not sure about last night but 99% I had it on the 126 this morning.
Quote from: Dom on November 22, 2015, 05:53:47 PM
How many trident do WN have in total?
4133-55 = 22
4200-02= 3
4315-18=4
4320-25=6
4535-4609=74
= 109
Quote from: RS on November 22, 2015, 05:58:46 PM
4133-55 = 22
4200-02= 3
4315-18=4
4320-25=6
4535-4609=74
= 109
107 as 4608 + 4609 are at BC, but thank you.
Quote from: Dom on November 22, 2015, 06:01:23 PM
107 as 4608 + 4609 are at BC, but thank you.
No Problem
I'm always paranoid that Wolverhampton is being bombarded with a lot of Tridents but they're not lol.
4535-4609 made 75 not 74...
Without wishing to jump into a pointless maths argument but the PL Trident count right now is 115.
4133-4155 - 23
4200-4202 - 3
4310-
4318 - 15
4320-4325 - 6
4535-4607 - 73
Edit
Broke the numbers. Whether they're loans, they're still there so they count. Otherwise it would be 111.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on November 22, 2015, 06:13:38 PM
Without wishing to jump into a pointless maths argument but the PL Trident count right now is 115.
4133-4155 - 23
4200-4202 - 3
4310-19/20-25 - 16
4535-4607 - 73
4319 isn't WN's
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on November 22, 2015, 06:13:38 PM
Without wishing to jump into a pointless maths argument but the PL Trident count right now is 115.
4133-4155 - 23
4200-4202 - 3
4310-19/20-25 - 16
4535-4607 - 73
4200 4202 are pensnett buses on hire
To avoid this turning into the PN thread....
I have it as 110 allocated Tridents to WN . Then 4200-02 on loan from PN and 4133 on long term loan from WA to cover Amazon
73 TransBus Examples (4535-4607)
22 Y Reg Examples (4134-4155)
15 51/02 plates (4310-18 and 4320-25)
Excluding 4133 and 4200-2, i have WN's allocation at 203 vehicles:
110 Tridents
52 B7RLE's
21 E400H's
18 LWB E200's
2 SWB E200's.
With the loan Tridents, that makes it 207.
Quote from: Nathan on November 22, 2015, 07:08:03 PM
To avoid this turning into the PN thread....
I have it as 110 allocated Tridents to WN . Then 4200-02 on loan from PN and 4133 on long term loan from WA to cover Amazon
73 TransBus Examples (4535-4607)
22 Y Reg Examples (4134-4155)
15 51/02 plates (4310-18 and 4320-25)
Excluding 4133 and 4200-2, i have WN's allocation at 203 vehicles:
110 Tridents
52 B7RLE's
21 E400H's
18 LWB E200's
2 SWB E200's.
With the loan Tridents, that makes it 207.
Is it not x51 B7RLE's - 2001-29 (29), 2059-77 (19) & 2112-4 (3). but all the other totals are right.
Quote from: paulb1973 on November 23, 2015, 12:12:22 AM
Is it not x51 B7RLE's - 2001-29 (29), 2059-77 (19) & 2112-4 (3). but all the other totals are right.
Yes
@paulb1973 we have the pleasure of 51 B7RLE's in Wolverhampton.
I wish it were 56 Excels though again.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on November 23, 2015, 12:17:40 AM
Yes @paulb1973 we have the pleasure of 51 B7RLE's in Wolverhampton.
I wish it were 56 Excels though again.
206 buses in all (202 if you exclude the loaned vehicles).
Quote from: paulb1973 on November 23, 2015, 12:23:42 AM
206 buses in all (202 if you exclude the loaned vehicles).
Sorry, yeah. 51 B7RLE's. Thanks for the correction :)
751 on the 59. Scraping the barrel there! A druver i know had the hybrid he was driving nicked for a school (5402) so waited for ages for a bus. He says he never got a bus in the end so this must have finished on the 62 and 11 before going onto the 59.
With a bus every few minutes as the 301/302 @ Walsall its the most obvious service to reduce buses if required.
Quote from: andyr on November 24, 2015, 12:46:55 AM
With a bus every few minutes as the 301/302 @ Walsall its the most obvious service to reduce buses if required.
Dont upset the Lower Farm lot. They've moaned for years about a unreliable service!
How about NX back full time up Somerfield Road instead?
Think the Swindon Tree Problem has been resolved. I'm told 4320 is on the 255.
Quote from: Nathan on November 26, 2015, 09:24:33 AM
Think the Swindon Tree Problem has been resolved. I'm told 4320 is on the 255.
No deckers on the 3 today.
Just seen 4147 on 255 so must be back to normal
Quote from: Chris on November 26, 2015, 10:38:45 AM
Just seen 4147 on 255 so must be back to normal
As is 4594. So yes, i think its safe to say back to normal. Good job. Single Deckers on the 255 would have been a nightmare in the lead up to Christmas. Tbh, they should put Tridents on there on Sundays in the run up to Christmas.
Quote from: Nathan on November 26, 2015, 11:13:04 AM
As is 4594. So yes, i think its safe to say back to normal. Good job. Single Deckers on the 255 would have been a nightmare in the lead up to Christmas. Tbh, they should put Tridents on there on Sundays in the run up to Christmas.
All eight buses on the 255 are Tridents.
@ade thatvwas the reason 751/2 were moved to WN. For the 62.
Any E400H on the 59?
Quote from: Dom on November 27, 2015, 11:03:01 AM
Any E400H on the 59?
No. 10 Tridents and a B7 (2062)
Quote from: Nathan on November 27, 2015, 07:25:09 AM
@ade thatvwas the reason 751/2 were moved to WN. For the 62.
Just didn't know whether it was a loan or transfer
81 meant to go straight up Flood Street in Dudley now ain't it? Instead of round New Mills Street (like the driver of 841 just did)
Sure it doesn't matter because as far as I'm aware there's no bus stops on either
Quote from: Kevin on November 28, 2015, 03:37:50 PM
81 meant to go straight up Flood Street in Dudley now ain't it? Instead of round New Mills Street (like the driver of 841 just did)
Sure it doesn't matter because as far as I'm aware there's no bus stops on either
It is meant to go straight up Flood Street, but again it dosen't make much difference except for on busy nights can take 4-5 mins off the journey thus helping reliability.
The driver of 4573 on 82/01 has just left Bilston 4 mins early! Moved off stand at 1525 left BS at 1526 not sue out til 1530. Sorry Tony can't argue this one hehe ;)
Silly question but has an e200 appeared on the 529 yet?
Quote from: Chris on December 01, 2015, 03:46:39 PM
Silly question but has an e200 appeared on the 529 yet?
It's not silly :) Yes, several have appeared. 845 and 851 are a couple i'm aware of. They may have been more. At the end of the day, not every working is spotted (especially late nights)
DIVERSION-
Routes 22,81,82,229
Castle Street Roseville closed due to Coseley Christmas light switch on.
Buses are to go along green street and back to normal line of route.
Quote from: Nathan on December 01, 2015, 03:47:50 PM
It's not silly :) Yes, several have appeared. 845 and 851 are a couple i'm aware of. They may have been more. At the end of the day, not every working is spotted (especially late nights)
Awesome so I might spot one on Friday night on my way back home from Bentley bridge as I'm passing through wolves. Been too long since I been in city centre. I think I'm the only person that likes the e200s
Quote from: Chris on December 01, 2015, 04:09:32 PM
Awesome so I might spot one on Friday night on my way back home from Bentley bridge as I'm passing through wolves. Been too long since I been in city centre. I think I'm the only person that likes the e200s
Sorry to rain on your parade a bit, but it is only a slight chance :)
Quote from: Chris on December 01, 2015, 04:09:32 PM
Awesome so I might spot one on Friday night on my way back home from Bentley bridge as I'm passing through wolves. Been too long since I been in city centre. I think I'm the only person that likes the e200s
That's not to say it will happen. It is a rare occurance. My point is, theremay have been more than two on there in the space of a year.
You two have upset him now dashing his hopes😂
What does he like about e200s?????
Haha nah if I'm desperate for an e200 ride
@karl724223 there's the 222/243 and I was just wondering that's all if they had appeared on 529. Lol and
@Trident 4194 I just like them haha
"We've got a posh un"
Quote from: Dom on December 05, 2015, 10:05:37 AM
"We've got a posh un"
Said a passenger boarding 5402 on the 11 this morning!
Quote from: Nathan on December 05, 2015, 08:27:32 PM
2020 on WN255. Worked the 19:45 departure from Wolverhampton Bus Station. Usually Tridents.
@Nathan Do the 255/6 interwork, only i saw an UNID B7RLE on the 256 in Wordsley around 18:20 ish?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 05, 2015, 08:48:54 PM
@Nathan Do the 255/6 interwork, only i saw an UNID B7RLE on the 256 in Wordsley around 18:20 ish?
Some trips during the peak Mon-Fri. A few trips Late afternoon, early evening on Saturday's and all day Sunday.
Yes, it would have been on the 256. But on arrival to Wolverhampton about 19:30, it then works the last NX 255 at 19:45.
Two Tiredents broken down on the Wombournes at the moment. One on Tilehouse Lane on a 255E and another on Billy Butts Lane.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on December 07, 2015, 06:00:01 PM
Two Tiredents broken down on the Wombournes at the moment. One on Tilehouse Lane on a 255E and another on Billy Butts Lane.
I presume thats why 5406 left Wolverhampton about half an hour ago on the 256?
Quote from: Nathan on December 07, 2015, 06:01:30 PM
I presume thats why 5406 left Wolverhampton about half an hour ago on the 256?
Possibly, but I think 4138 was on its last dodger run. The one on Billy Butts Lane was facing Wombourne so 5406 may have replaced a third breakdown.
Quote from: Sh4318 on December 10, 2015, 11:52:31 AM
4200 is on the 67
@Sh4318 Are you sure? PB usually get loans from BC and they are usually Enviro 400's! I'd be really surprised if they loaned an ALX400 Trident.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on December 10, 2015, 02:50:49 PM
@Sh4318 Are you sure? PB usually get loans from BC and they are usually Enviro 400's! I'd be really surprised if they loaned an ALX400 Trident.
Just leaving city now (14:50 departure)
Quote from: Tony on December 10, 2015, 02:55:16 PM
Just leaving city now (14:50 departure)
Any idea what time it's due back into City? Never heard of a ALX400 Trident at PB!
Quote from: Michael Bevan on December 10, 2015, 02:59:02 PM
Any idea what time it's due back into City? Never heard of a ALX400 Trident at PB!
Hour and a half after that I think. (May be more at peak times)
We had one on loan for the day a while back, it was on the 46. 4340 I think it was
Quote from: John on December 10, 2015, 03:02:37 PM
Hour and a half after that I think. (May be more at peak times)
We had one on loan for the day a while back, it was on the 46. 4340 I think it was
Around 16:20? Will photograph it in City then!
Quote from: Michael Bevan on December 10, 2015, 03:05:55 PM
Around 16:20? Will photograph it in City then!
It should be around then. Try to get there a bit earlier in case I'm wrong with the running time
Quote from: John on December 10, 2015, 03:09:24 PM
It should be around then. Try to get there a bit earlier in case I'm wrong with the running time
Well whoever thought it was a good idea to loan 4200 to PB...It's stuck at the Uni with no type trained driver!
4200 transferred to wolverhampton back end of oct beginin of Nov i believe and ive seen it on 529
Quote from: Busman Jamie on December 11, 2015, 06:04:05 PM
4200 transferred to wolverhampton back end of oct beginin of Nov i believe and ive seen it on 529
Its not a transfer. Its on loan to cover increased PVR due to the Amazon services. 4201/2 are also here on loan. They are going back in the new year.
and have hardly been used
Is their any reasons why those ZF Tridents at WN all have gear problems, over revving etc, ive been on the 529 and most of them to put it in a polite way are F'd.
Can they not be fixed as it does not good for the gear box engine and uses so much fuel...
@Tony sort it out please :D
Quote from: Tomf1993 on December 12, 2015, 12:04:04 AM
Is their any reasons why those ZF Tridents at WN all have gear problems, over revving etc, ive been on the 529 and most of them to put it in a polite way are F'd.
Can they not be fixed as it does not good for the gear box engine and uses so much fuel... @Tony sort it out please :D
I catch WN Tridents every day and i don't notice that....
4605 go on that, although most of them ive been on are out of tune, I never thought I say this buy those VOTIH ones at WN are quite good.
Quote from: Nathan on December 12, 2015, 12:12:05 AM
I catch WN Tridents every day and i don't notice that....
Their meant to sound like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYcKTCJ_wsg
Quote from: Nathan on December 12, 2015, 12:38:57 AM
This is my video of 4545
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo3Ypre2IUA
Yeah, Most of them sound like this. 4590, 4603 and 4605's sound different.
Now, that is more like it, I wish all of them at WN get fixed like this! cant be that hard to do
Personally I find the ZF Trident 2's at WN to have a great engine & gearbox sound have been on a few on the 126 many a time, like all buses they start to sound tired after so many years in service. I think it gives them character if they sound different to the norm and should be appreciated not whinged about because some sound different to others.
Off topic a bit but the BC ZF Trident 2's sound great as well, they have an engine/gearbox character of their own
Im on 529 4601 now, this is a good one :-) 4501 hybrid also on 529, gonna gett 126 from Woverhampton to Birmingham.
Quote from: Tomf1993 on December 12, 2015, 04:08:21 PM
Im on 529 4601 now, this is a good one :-) 4501 hybrid also on 529, gonna gett 126 from Woverhampton to Birmingham.
Did you mean 5401?
Quote from: filbus1 on December 12, 2015, 04:26:00 PM
Did you mean 5401?
Yes he must have done. See my post in the Noteworthy Workings thread.
Also, both 62's today are LWB E200's, as opposed to 751/2.
i saw 5401 on 529 in Walsall today
Quote from: Nathan on December 12, 2015, 12:38:57 AM
This is my video of 4545
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo3Ypre2IUA
Yeah, Most of them sound like this. 4590, 4603 and 4605's sound different.
Great bid I love when Tridents get thrashed like that
Quote from: Squiz1971 on December 12, 2015, 12:59:50 PM
Personally I find the ZF Trident 2's at WN to have a great engine & gearbox sound have been on a few on the 126 many a time, like all buses they start to sound tired after so many years in service. I think it gives them character if they sound different to the norm and should be appreciated not whinged about because some sound different to others.
Off topic a bit but the BC ZF Trident 2's sound great as well, they have an engine/gearbox character of their own
I agree and I think WN have most of those tridents that stand out to the rest
Quote from: filbus1 on December 12, 2015, 04:26:00 PM
Did you mean 5401?
Yeah 5401 I meant good bus, 126 was a waste of time too long and driver was bloody slow, two buses from behind over took it.
Quote from: Tomf1993 on December 12, 2015, 10:59:38 PM
Yeah 5401 I meant good bus, 126 was a waste of time too long and driver was bloody slow, two buses from behind over took it.
What happened to the bus behind them LMAO
Over took the bus I was on lol, I had slow driver, I hate drivers like that, their is a couple of them on 529 drive dead slow and buses behind catch and over take.
4139 on the 255/6 today.
I assume the use of double deckers on there on Sundays is for the run up to Christmas for Merry Hill shoppers.
A Trident (it's either 41xx or 43xx judging the red bars) got a door window smashed by someone in West Bromwich. That person was a fare dodger.
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 13, 2015, 05:06:09 PM
A Trident (it's either 41xx or 43xx judging the red bars) got a door window smashed by someone in West Bromwich. That person was a fare dodger.
Ridiculous! This 'window smashing' business is becoming too common now, all these idiots that vandalise public property should pay double the price of how much it takes to repair whatever they've idiotically broke.
Just found out it was 4312.
Just a quick question. Does the 54 exit Wolverhampton bus station via Pipers Row or the A4150?
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on December 16, 2015, 03:44:57 PM
Just a quick question. Does the 54 exit Wolverhampton bus station via Pipers Row or the A4150?
Pipers Row, there's a stop outside the Grand Theatre it serves.
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on December 16, 2015, 03:44:57 PM
Just a quick question. Does the 54 exit Wolverhampton bus station via Pipers Row or the A4150?
Both 54 & 154 leave via Pipers Row.
4540 bost on 126
849 will be off the road.for a while. Had a nasty accident involving a motorcyclist this morning. Similar damage to that of 862.
Damage: https://flic.kr/p/Bt6gji
2059 covered a Wolverhampton-Ashmore Park trip to bridge a gap in service.
UID B7RLE - NIS/Private on the way into Brum City Centre. Looks like it'll enter service on the 126, perhaps?
4544 Was parked up on stand U at 9.50 today display 5 Codsall
Anybody know if 4147 is getting repaired? Cheers
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on January 14, 2016, 05:54:10 PM
Anybody know if 4147 is getting repaired? Cheers
Its back out in use. Saw it parked in Wolverhampton Bus Station NIS this afternoon.
@WN 5408 has been on the 82 before so not a first for a 1 branded.. Covered last trip of the day sometime last year to replace a Spectra.
Quote from: Nathan on January 18, 2016, 03:52:04 PM
@WN 5408 has been on the 82 before so not a first for a 1 branded.. Covered last trip of the day sometime last year to replace a Spectra.
Don't remember that tbh but ok.
Quote from: WN on January 18, 2016, 04:17:14 PM
Don't remember that tbh but ok.
Nathan must have a brilliant memory. I did a quick search and here it is - http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=1928.msg143612#msg143612
Come to think of it, 5409 has been on the 82 also:
Yes, see here:
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=1567.msg132406#msg132406
I have been reliably informed that 4738 is currently sitting by Stand U in Wolverhampton Bus Station.
Quote from: WN on December 22, 2015, 12:00:50 PM
849 will be off the road.for a while. Had a nasty accident involving a motorcyclist this morning. Similar damage to that of 862.
Damage: https://flic.kr/p/Bt6gji
849 is back and back out. Just over a month gone.
4142 on colmore row just parked up at the 120 stand
Quote from: 900 on January 27, 2016, 01:43:08 PM
4142 on colmore row just parked up at the 120 stand
on loan to Pensnett
Did a b7rle 2009? Come out to replace 4141 (255) which had broken down in wombourne?
Quote from: Chris on January 29, 2016, 05:37:39 PM
Did a b7rle 2009? Come out to replace 4141 (255) which had broken down in wombourne?
Mentioned it in the noteworthys
@Chris
2019 on late night 5/10 last night
Why am I mentioning this?
Noteworthy as in that I was right in saying it was a transponder bus, I did think I was wrong. Out of all the transponder B7's, this is the one that's been used on the 10 only twice since it had one fitted. All the others have had more turns.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on January 31, 2016, 10:05:00 AM
2019 on late night 5/10 last night
Why am I mentioning this?
Noteworthy as in that I was right in saying it was a transponder bus, I did think I was wrong. Out of all the transponder B7's, this is the one that's been used on the 10 only twice since it had one fitted. All the others have had more turns.
Forgot to mention, Codsall Clipper Branded 2059 was on the late 5/10's the Saturday before. The 5 brandeds don't have transponders to activate the Perton Bus Road barrier, so i assume it got stuck....
2019 used to be allocated to the 10 quite a bit when they were new, but since 2069/70/71 were branded they mainly on there. I know recently the same few non branded b7s seem to appear on the 5 bus that interworks at night, such as 2022/23/64/67. on a Saturday usually a 10 branded bus is allocated to the first 5 bus as that is the late night one. however I believe yesterday one on there at least was swapped.
however the barrier has been out of action for a few weeks. although there has been what looks like a temporary camera fitted to a lamppost. personally the council should put cameras up, and do away with that barrier, as its a pain in the backside.
Don't know if they're transponder fitted but 2022 and 2064 are today's 5/10
Quote from: WN on January 31, 2016, 11:07:37 AM
Don't know if they're transponder fitted but 2022 and 2064 are today's 5/10
Yes these are transponder ones and much more regular on the 10.
Anybody now if the 54/154 are going to carry on after April
Was about to ask that myself. It'd be a shame if nx stopped going to Cannock again, but I've never seen it full, plus Arriva re routed the half hourly 70 through Cheslyn hay making it a quicker option
Wont Staffs County Council need to tender evening journeys to replace the ones lost from the 54/154, if that happens?
Not sure, they probably won't bother lol. If they gave it to another operator Arriva would probably have a dummy out if the pram moment again....
S620 VOA in preservation as of 12/15 with wyvern bus preservation group
@bmmo4773 - see thread below:
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=2431.135
Quote from: woody38 on January 31, 2016, 09:18:40 PM
Anybody now if the 54/154 are going to carry on after April
They will carry on, but not necessarily the current full timetable
4556 on the 1 is that normal? Just left Dudley Bus Station
Quote from: Will on February 06, 2016, 08:38:00 PM
4556 on the 1 is that normal? Just left Dudley Bus Station
The 1 has seen tridents everyday for months
Quote from: 900 on February 06, 2016, 08:49:59 PM
The 1 has seen tridents everyday for months
Not entirely correct. Not 'every day'. Yes it is noteworthy for a Saturday. Its a late night too.
Quote from: Tony on February 06, 2016, 09:07:48 AM
They will carry on, but not necessarily the current full timetable
Cheers Tony
Quote from: Tony on February 06, 2016, 09:07:48 AM
They will carry on, but not necessarily the current full timetable
Still subsidised?
4593 has suffered heavy fire damage this morning at WN Garage.
Do u have any photos
Jesus I only caught that yesterday on the 82
Has any other buses been involved
http://www.expressandstar.com/picture-galleries/news-pictures/2016/02/07/pictured-wolverhampton-firefighters-tackle-blazing-bus/
Quote from: notepanel on February 07, 2016, 11:40:56 AM
http://www.expressandstar.com/picture-galleries/news-pictures/2016/02/07/pictured-wolverhampton-firefighters-tackle-blazing-bus/
I think we're safe to say that's not getting repaired. At least no one was injured
Has it caused any disruption to services, as there are other buses stuck behind? Or are those not needed on a Sunday
Quote from: Nathan on February 07, 2016, 10:15:40 AM
4593 has suffered heavy fire damage this morning at WN Garage.
Quote from: notepanel on February 07, 2016, 11:40:56 AM
http://www.expressandstar.com/picture-galleries/news-pictures/2016/02/07/pictured-wolverhampton-firefighters-tackle-blazing-bus/
Quite amusing is the fact that Nathan reported this on the forum at 10:15 and the Express and Star said the inferno was thought to have broken out at around 10:45.
@John No disruptions. Just a couple of noteworthy workings ;) (5401 on the 2, 2021 and 529 branded 4604 on 59)
Express And Star are known for getting their facts wrong. I was sent photos (i've been asked not to share them) well before 10:45. I was sent photos about 5 mins before and Firefighters were already in attendance.
I must praise the quick thinking staff for moving buses to safety.
You were asked not to share photos, yet one appears on the E & S website.
Im missing something here.
Quote from: Bryan on February 07, 2016, 12:14:07 PM
Quite amusing is the fact that Nathan reported this on the forum at 10:15 and the Express and Star said the inferno was thought to have broken out at around 10:45.
Lucky the fire didn't spread to other vehicles.
Quote from: Westy on February 07, 2016, 01:56:45 PM
You were asked not to share photos, yet one appears on the E & S website.
Im missing something here.
Because obviously
@Nathan has a friend who works at Wolvo garage and who has obviously sent him some 'up close' better pictures than the E&S ones and obviously his friend has told Nathan not to share them which I can understand
Quote from: Westy on February 07, 2016, 01:56:45 PM
You were asked not to share photos, yet one appears on the E & S website.
Im missing something here.
Those photos are from the 'Fallings Park Fire' twitter account. Nathans photos are different to the ones in the article.
They have edited the news article now and it says a another bus suffed damage aswell
Quote from: Jack6101 on February 07, 2016, 02:30:03 PM
They have edited the news article now and it says a another bus suffed damage aswell
Also seemed to rectify the time from 9.45am to "around 9am"
Didn't someone say that a bus would destroyed by fire - a start of the year prediction for 2016!
Quote from: paulb1973 on February 07, 2016, 07:16:43 PM
Didn't someone say that a bus would destroyed by fire - a start of the year prediction for 2016!
My generic predictions. Not wishing to tempt fate but there's always a few these days.
Quote from: paulb1973 on February 07, 2016, 07:16:43 PM
Didn't someone say that a bus would destroyed by fire - a start of the year prediction for 2016!
I wanted an E40D to be involved, they are soo rubbish.
Quote from: Ronnoc on February 07, 2016, 08:06:00 PM
I wanted an E40D to be involved, they are soo rubbish.
They're the future. Some elements of the future I can put up with about bus spotting. At least until I find a girl and all that. Then I'll take up preservation.
Quote from: clayderman on February 07, 2016, 03:27:24 PM
Also seemed to rectify the time from 9.45am to "around 9am"
Any advance on 9am?
It is true how bus fires do spread pretty quick.
It was very lucky no other vehicle got destroyed. I was told the only reason they found out it was on fire was because a driver of another bus about to leave garage radioed traffic office to tell them.
Well.... It's fair to say WN are a bus down so will its replacement come from !
2 buses down, I am sure Tony will let us know tomorrow when he gets into work
Look out for the new daysaver stickers on single deckers.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on February 08, 2016, 09:50:19 AM
Look out for the new daysaver stickers on single deckers.
They look quite smart tbh
Quote from: Ronnoc on February 07, 2016, 08:06:00 PM
I wanted an E40D to be involved, they are soo rubbish.
what? These kind of incidents can potentially cause serious injurys or loss of life and your thinking is an e40d wasn't involved, seriously dude this is your thinking. Thankfully no one is hurt.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on February 08, 2016, 09:50:19 AM
Look out for the new daysaver stickers on single deckers.
I noted 2 Central Volvos with them, one for the Off Peak Daysaver and another ticket on the other. One of Perry Barrs Crimson OmniLinks also has one on the nearside
Quote from: 2900 on February 08, 2016, 11:01:14 AM
what? These kind of incidents can potentially cause serious injurys or loss of life and your thinking is an e40d wasn't involved, seriously dude this is your thinking. Thankfully no one is hurt.
I obviously do care about the people who could have had potential injuries, but that comment didn't mean I didn't care about the potential injuries. ::) ::)
What was the other TA involved?
Dennis Trident ALX, their was this bus totally destroyed and one other with minor damage
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 08, 2016, 03:45:31 PM
Dennis Trident ALX, their was this bus totally destroyed and one other with minor damage
I've never heard one be called that before
All ALX 400 is classed TA mate, if you look on the warranty plant on the bus, most London operators call it TA and internally many company do aswell.
On another note I was speaking to a driver just who has said the Streetdeck may be moving to park lane as a temporary replacement for 4593. Don't think it's true though because surely WN can survive with one less bus.
This a West Midlands forum and we don't use London names but call a bus by what it is.
Every route should be giving branding? no, its a nightmare for bus allocation, having to park certain buses in certain lanes/lines to ensure they go on correct routes. Ok yeah WA/WN are big lanes with long lanes so it can be done, but for old small shack like shed garages its a night mare to do.
Quote from: WN on February 08, 2016, 04:02:35 PM
On another note I was speaking to a driver just who has said the Streetdeck may be moving to park lane as a temporary replacement for 4593. Don't think it's true though because surely WN can survive with one less bus.
Couldn't PN just send a Trident over ?
Their is a whole pool of buses at Miller Street and another place where spare buses are.
or a bendy bus lol
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 08, 2016, 04:43:37 PM
Their is a whole pool of buses at Miller Street and another place where spare buses are.
They're not spare buses they are withdrawn.
They wouldn't get a Bendy Bus WN have never operated a Bendy Bus before.
Withdrawn Buses can be quickly made into spare buses, anyway, what happening with the bendy buses?
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 08, 2016, 04:58:01 PM
Withdrawn Buses can be quickly made into spare buses, anyway, what happening with the bendy buses?
Buses within the reserve fleet are more likely to be used and even then they have to be readied for service e.g. MOT, tax etc ... its best if possible that they temporarily loan another bus from another garage
4153 on WN2
4586 is today's 54E bus. Is there mire than one bus that does the 54E?
Quote from: WN on February 08, 2016, 05:03:07 PM
4153 on WN2
4586 is today's 54E bus. Is there mire than one bus that does the 54E?
@WN its ome bus on the 54E
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 08, 2016, 04:43:37 PM
Their is a whole pool of buses at Miller Street and another place where spare buses are.
Please tell me which 'spare' bus is parked up that could be used
Presidents if you anit took them all to WA :D
Wolves have never operated Presidents either have they?
Unless there's a Trident in the reserve fleet(unlikely), theres no point in raiding the reserve fleet!
Quote from: Westy on February 08, 2016, 05:22:36 PM
Wolves have never operated Presidents either have they?
Unless there's a Trident in the reserve fleet(unlikely), theres no point in raiding the reserve fleet!
No they haven't.
Looking at Tonys fleetlist the only buses in the reserve fleet are 6022 - 6032 and 4520 (Someone said that one is being repaired at YW)
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 08, 2016, 05:11:26 PM
Presidents if you anit took them all to WA :D
WN have never operated any Presidents. All the Presidents are either at AG, YW, WB, WA or, Withdrawn.
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 08, 2016, 03:45:31 PM
Dennis Trident ALX, their was this bus totally destroyed and one other with minor damage
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 08, 2016, 04:01:25 PM
All ALX 400 is classed TA mate, if you look on the warranty plant on the bus, most London operators call it TA and internally many company do aswell.
Ah, okay, thanks
@Tomf1993. We are not in London, we are in the West Midlands. ;)
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on February 08, 2016, 04:34:11 PM
Couldn't PN just send a Trident over ?
Why would PN send a loan bus to WN when they are currently having to loan buses themselves? WB E400's / WN Trident etc
Quote from: Tony on February 08, 2016, 05:10:49 PM
Please tell me which 'spare' bus is parked up that could be used
Couldn't 1571 or 1591 not re-enter service temporarily on schools work?
Quote from: Winston on February 08, 2016, 08:10:41 PM
Why would PN send a loan bus to WN when they are currently having to loan buses themselves? WB E400's / WN Trident etc
Isn't 4218 now spare, sure
@Tony said it was at PE until 3301 arrived!
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on February 08, 2016, 08:13:23 PM
Isn't 4218 now spare, sure @Tony said it was at PE until 3301 arrived!
PN were loaning WB E400's only Friday & Saturday just gone!
And 3301 isn't in service yet!
Quote from: Winston on February 08, 2016, 08:16:55 PM
PN were loaning WB E400's only Friday & Saturday just gone!
And 3301 isn't in service yet!
And a Walsall Trident on Friday.
And 760 today
Quote from: Winston on February 08, 2016, 08:16:55 PM
PN were loaning WB E400's only Friday & Saturday just gone!
And 3301 isn't in service yet!
I hear it might be in service tomorrow...
Quote from: Winston on February 08, 2016, 08:10:41 PM
Why would PN send a loan bus to WN when they are currently having to loan buses themselves? WB E400's / WA Trident etc
Couldn't 1571 or 1591 not re-enter service temporarily on schools work?
Tony said 1571 and 1591 were being prepared for resale.
Quote from: Tony on January 22, 2016, 02:32:58 PM
You didn't notice two absentees then?
1571 & 1591 are now at Miller Street being prepared for resale
And if they were put in service that would set a bad image to the seller as it would be as bad as it came off before
Quote from: RS on February 08, 2016, 08:37:17 PM
And if they were put in service that would set a bad image to the seller as it would be as bad as it came off before
They have turned out to be in so bad a condition they are unlikely to be sold, they also cannot be put back in service because of DDA rules
Quote from: Tony on February 08, 2016, 08:40:06 PM
They have turned out to be in so bad a condition they are unlikely to be sold, they also cannot be put back in service because of DDA rules
Can't they still be used on school contracts not avalible to the general public? Assuming there are some?
Quote from: Winston on February 08, 2016, 08:57:13 PM
Can't they still be used on school contracts not avalible to the general public? Assuming there are some?
NX school services are public services. Plus most afternoon schools run onto another service.
@Nathan Being our WN expert, are WN short of buses or would being one short not really matter for a little while?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on February 08, 2016, 09:08:14 PM
@Nathan Being our WN expert, are WN short of buses or would being one short not really matter for a little while?
In all honesty, i don't know tbh. WN covered morning and afternoon peak without any loan buses so i guess they aren't struggling like some people thought they would (well not as bad as PN were at the end of last week)
Quote from: Tony on February 08, 2016, 08:40:06 PM
They have turned out to be in so bad a condition they are unlikely to be sold, they also cannot be put back in service because of DDA rules
Quote from: 2206 on February 08, 2016, 08:35:24 PM
Tony said 1571 and 1591 were being prepared for resale.
i wondered why these were being prepared for resale when every other merc so far has gone north to become a Coke can , from what I,ve been told and read most of these mercs are suffering from corrosion to some extent, the salt used on roads at winter would have accelerated the process on an all Steel body,chassis.
I was looking through Flickr photos and came across something interesting. 3225 in public service at WN in 1996 on the 543 service to Castlecroft
Link here:
https://flic.kr/p/8gWEpD
Quote from: Nathan on February 18, 2016, 09:50:47 PM
I was looking through Flickr photos and came across something interesting. 3225 in public service at WN in 1996 on the 543 service to Castlecroft
Link here:
https://flic.kr/p/8gWEpD
And someone has specially put a number roll in reel 3 as it can never normally show 3 digit service numbers
Park Lane must have been really short of vehicles that day!
Quote from: Nathan on February 21, 2016, 10:51:16 AM
5405 and 5409 both on WN2
Is something going on at Park Lane?
@RS Just incase you were not aware, When the 62's finish service, both boards go onto work several 11 trips (Both buses on the 62 work 11's beforehand too) so SWB E200's are scheduled in the week to appear on there.
Can any one tell me where 4567 is going please. Running private towards Dudley uo Bham New Rd
Does anyone know the verdict on Trident 4593 whether National Express will scrap it or restore it.
As a mechanic i personally think its a very big job and isn't worth the money in parts or fixing it , its sad to think but 4593 may of had its day
Quote from: Nxcal2014 on February 26, 2016, 06:34:32 PM
Does anyone know the verdict on Trident 4593 whether National Express will scrap it or restore it.
As a mechanic i personally think its a very big job and isn't worth the money in parts or fixing it , its sad to think but 4593 may of had its day
I think it's safe to say, it's beyond help!
Quote from: Nxcal2014 on February 26, 2016, 06:34:32 PM
Does anyone know the verdict on Trident 4593 whether National Express will scrap it or restore it.
As a mechanic i personally think its a very big job and isn't worth the money in parts or fixing it , its sad to think but 4593 may of had its day
I don't think any bus with that much damage will be repaired.
Nx have scrapped buses with a lot less fire damage so 4593 could be stripped of anything useful I.e engine gearbox axles etc even if those bits serve as exchange units to save expensive surcharges on return units. In years gone by though, one wonders if it had been a pretty low floor decker I.e one with a proper chassis and engine whether it would have been worth revisiting.
Quote from: mranon on February 27, 2016, 04:16:12 PM
Nx have scrapped buses with a lot less fire damage so 4593 could be stripped of anything useful I.e engine gearbox axles etc even if those bits serve as exchange units to save expensive surcharges on return units. In years gone by though, one wonders if it had been a pretty low floor decker I.e one with a proper chassis and engine whether it would have been worth revisiting.
4355 springs to mind!
Anyone know when the 154 timetable is going to change? ?
Quote from: Bob on February 28, 2016, 09:04:20 AM
Anyone know when the 154 timetable is going to change? ?
In April sometime. Whether its minor or major i don't know.
Spose it depends on if i54 continue funding
Yes there is a hybrid on the 126
@WN as I saw one in Birmingham
244 towed from Park Lane this morning. Seen on Lichfield Rd going towards Bloxwich about 08:55.
4593 was pictured on a tow truck too. Whether it was being towed for scrap or being moved to a different of the garage, i'm not sure.
2027 on a 256/257 anybody know a reason why this is on here ?
Quote from: Nxcal2014 on March 03, 2016, 03:23:19 PM
2027 on a 256/257 anybody know a reason why this is on here ?
To maintain the timetable advertised
To pick up passengers from bus stops
Obviously to pick passengers up from his stops but 256/7 are ushally booked tridents
Quote from: Nxcal2014 on March 04, 2016, 07:43:16 AM
Obviously to pick passengers up from his stops but 256/7 are ushally booked tridents
I got told by an inspector at WN B7s could not fit around the 257 route?
Quote from: 900 on March 04, 2016, 08:14:06 AM
I got told by an inspector at WN B7s could not fit around the 257 route?
@900 that's a load of crap. Mercs got around there fine plus there have been several other times when a B7 has been on the 257
Quote from: WN on March 04, 2016, 08:20:31 AM
@900 that's a load of crap. Mercs got around there fine plus there have been several other times when a B7 has been on the 257
Anybody remember the Swindon trees just before Christmas?
Quote from: WN on March 04, 2016, 08:20:31 AM
@900 that's a load of crap. Mercs got around there fine plus there have been several other times when a B7 has been on the 257
It is true that they 'can' struggle round the Gornal Part of the route, but they are not 'banned'. A bus is a bus. As long as it can 'physically' get round the route and keeps the service running then there is no problem. The inspector did use the words 'banned' to us, but the B7RLE that came to replace a faulty Trident, was swapped with a hybrid off the 59, so there was no gap/disruption to service. If a Trident isn't avaliable, then a B7RLE is the next vehicle choice.
I live round Gornal wood and I've seen enough tridents stuck round there the especially round school times and the b7 does struggle abit round one particular bit of the route in Gornal.
Quote from: 900 on March 04, 2016, 08:14:06 AM
I got told by an inspector at WN B7s could not fit around the 257 route?
If that was the case, how come WN used to allocate 154x mercs when they first started on the 254/5/6/7 circuits. How come MH used to allocate Nationals? How come PE used to allocate B10s?
Just pure nonsense you've been told
can anyone tell me where I am most likely to see 862?... its the only WN bus I've not seen in service yet... tried the 81? service from wolves to Dudley once before with no luck. took at least an hour I was amazed at the number of twists and turns... :o :o
Quote from: windy miller on March 09, 2016, 02:07:19 AM
can anyone tell me where I am most likely to see 862?... its the only WN bus I've not seen in service yet... tried the 81? service from wolves to Dudley once before with no luck. took at least an hour I was amazed at the number of twists and turns... :o :o
@windy miller The 27/A (Wolverhampton-Dudley via Gornal Wood), 28 (Wolverhampton-Willenhall via New Invention), 54/154 (Wolverhampton-Stafford/Hednesford) or 81 (Wolverhampton-Merry Hill via Dudley). Sometimes the 4 (Spring Hill-Pendeford/Codsall) & 32/3 (Northwood Prk Circulars have one on there (there has been one on there over the past few days) have an E200 or two.
The 62/A (Wolverhampton-Compton Circulars) are worth looking out for. It is two buses, usually 751/2 but LWB E200's still appear.
Quote from: windy miller on March 09, 2016, 02:07:19 AM
can anyone tell me where I am most likely to see 862?... its the only WN bus I've not seen in service yet... tried the 81? service from wolves to Dudley once before with no luck. took at least an hour I was amazed at the number of twists and turns... :o :o
It is on the 81 today if you are out & about
Thanks to you both I will have a wander over to Dudley later today :)
Quote from: windy miller on March 09, 2016, 12:44:55 PM
Thanks to you both I will have a wander over to Dudley later today :)
It is due to leave Merry Hill back to Wolverhampton at 13:45; 16:15 & 18:45
4604 529 branded seen heading to Miller street
Vosa are in Wolverhampton today
I'm on 4133 on 256/257she has lots of kickdown
Quote from: WN on March 14, 2016, 08:22:24 AM
5409 | WN529
Quote from: 900 on March 14, 2016, 09:56:40 AM
5419 on wn529 seen in Wolverhampton at 9.27
Just to clarify, Are these both on the 529? Or is 5409 a typo error> (I know 5419 is on there)
There seems to be Trident issues on services 255/256/257 today.
2121 on 256/257. Not sure whether this was a replacement or not.
2025 on 255. This was a replacement (probably at 11:20) as earlier services on this running board were cancelled.
529 branded 4598 on 255. This was a replacement at 14:50 for 4136 which should have operated the cancelled 13:30 from Merry Hill.
A post on Facebook suggests 4005 is at Wythall? Is this accurate or not?
Quote from: Nathan on March 16, 2016, 04:26:16 PM
A post on Facebook suggests 4005 is at Wythall? Is this accurate or not?
I saw a photo on Flickr yesterday of it arriving at Wythall on suspended tow. Caption suggested it is to be used as a source of spares for 4001.
Quote from: Niall on March 16, 2016, 04:36:59 PM
I saw a photo on Flickr yesterday of it arriving at Wythall on suspended tow. Caption suggested it is to be used as a source of spares for 4001.
It is correct, the following Facebook page for the museum confirms it:
www.facebook.com/TransportMuseumWythall/photos/a.255609211161832.65276.148791885176899/1086663221389756/?type=3&theater
Are single decker b7's , tridents and a couple of E400H the only buses an have?
Saw 4540 today in my work place then saw it later on amazon A5, anyone know what's been done to it?
Quote from: Trident4590 on March 22, 2016, 07:06:05 PM
Are single decker b7's , tridents and a couple of E400H the only buses an have?
Saw 4540 today in my work place then saw it later on amazon A5, anyone know what's been done to it?
WN have 4 types of bus (soon to be a fifth). Tridents are the majority type, then B7RLE's, then Hybrids, then E200's (both SWB and LWB)
5404 on the 126 if of interest to anyone. I boarded at 16:22 at Roseville Bank Street heading towards City
looks like NXWM are making some changes to there staffs services anybody know what they are
http://www.staffordshire.gov.uk/transport/publictransport/buses/Plan-your-journey/Forthcomingbusservice.aspx
Quote from: woody38 on March 25, 2016, 10:32:11 AM
looks like NXWM are making some changes to there staffs services anybody know what they are
http://www.staffordshire.gov.uk/transport/publictransport/buses/Plan-your-journey/Forthcomingbusservice.aspx
I think the clue is where it states 'Revised timetable'! ;)
Quote from: Stu on March 25, 2016, 10:42:24 AM
I think the clue is where it states 'Revised timetable'! ;)
24th April for both services. Personally I think the 154 will be cut to just do Wolverhampton to Cannock. I think both services will go every half hour with the introduction of a Sunday service for the 54. Just what I think, I dont wish to be slated for it.
Quote from: Dom on March 25, 2016, 11:00:09 AM
24th April for both services. Personally I think the 154 will be cut to just do Wolverhampton to Cannock. I think both services will go every half hour with the introduction of a Sunday service for the 54. Just what I think, I dont wish to be slated for it.
I heard some of the evening trips are going.
Surely the evening & Sunday 54's ought to be diverted via Brewood, to reintroduce journeys at that point in the day?
(In fact, divert the entire service via Brewood. Do many people get on that section of Coven served by the 54?)
Quote from: Westy on March 26, 2016, 09:16:38 PM
Surely the evening & Sunday 54's ought to be diverted via Brewood, to reintroduce journeys at that point in the day?
(In fact, divert the entire service via Brewood. Do many people get on that section of Coven served by the 54?)
Yes quite a few actually.
On the subject of the Spectras, were Wolverhampton actually short of vehicles at the time?
They never operated Spectras previously, so they could've just as easily been transferred to any of the Black Country garages.
(Surprised Walsall never operated them, as they finished off the Bristol Vr's, ex Coventry area Fleetlines, the Lynx's & latterly the B10L's!)
Quote from: Dom on March 26, 2016, 09:17:39 PM
Yes quite a few actually.
Is the 54 route used, the same one previously used by Arriva / Midland Red, when they didn't operate via Brewood during the day themselves years ago, when Warstones used to provide the Brewood service?
Quote from: Westy on March 26, 2016, 09:24:02 PM
Is the 54 route used, the same one previously used by Arriva / Midland Red, when they didn't operate via Brewood during the day themselves years ago, when Warstones used to provide the Brewood service?
The 54 is really well used! The 154 has picked up as well. Arriva never operated the 54 it was a brand new service. Arriva operate the 76 which is the closest 'competition' NX have.
Quote from: Westy on March 26, 2016, 09:21:39 PM
On the subject of the Spectras, were Wolverhampton actually short of vehicles at the time?
They never operated Spectras previously, so they could've just as easily been transferred to any of the Black Country garages.
(Surprised Walsall never operated them, as they finished off the Bristol Vr's, ex Coventry area Fleetlines, the Lynx's & latterly the B10L's!)
The Spectra's replaced the last of WN's Metrobuses.
Today's WN rail reps should be 4537, 4586 and 4590. 4586 and 4588 should be on there this afternoon.
On another note, the 2 (Bushbury Hill-Warstones) now is booked hybrids on Sundays. All 3 buses yesterday were hybrid. Today was supposed to be the same but 4572 has came out in place of 5402.
Quote from: Nathan on March 26, 2016, 09:43:21 PM
The Spectra's replaced the last of WN's Metrobuses.
Those Fleetline were great but an odd choice as walsall hadn't operated them for ten years prior to arrival
I seen a 529 branded strident on the m6 yesterday between junction10 /11
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2016/03/30/new-timetables-after-complaints-on-wolverhampton-buses/
Lousy Journalism again? Platinum buses down Stafford Rd? Yet again, Councillor takes credit like they always do....
Newer buses on Northwood Park's? The majority of buses on the Northwood Park's are usually 61/12 B7RLE's anyway. At most they have Tridents, but still adequate. Many of them are 53/04 plates that were only repainted/refurbed in 2014.
Quote from: Nathan on March 30, 2016, 12:23:39 PM
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2016/03/30/new-timetables-after-complaints-on-wolverhampton-buses/
Lousy Journalism again? Platinum buses down Stafford Rd? Yet again, Councillor takes credit like they always do....
Platinum's potentially part of 'The Stafford Road Bus Rapid Transit offer' over the next few years
It's about time the E&S updated their photo files.....
He's having a laugh! He says he wants four year old B7s to be withdrawn. Really?
It must be getting close to election time again.
@NXWM Spectra guess what...there is in just over a month!!
was this councillor blind when travel express operated on those routes?
PD0001111/68 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Wolverhampton Bus Station and Birmingham City Centre given service number 126 effective from 5-Jun-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.
:o :o ;D
Quote from: Dom on April 01, 2016, 10:14:37 AM
PD0001111/68 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Wolverhampton Bus Station and Birmingham City Centre given service number 126 effective from 5-Jun-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.
:o :o ;D
8)
Quote from: Dom on April 01, 2016, 10:14:37 AM
PD0001111/68 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Wolverhampton Bus Station and Birmingham City Centre given service number 126 effective from 5-Jun-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.
:o :o ;D
Is this April fool or serious?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 01, 2016, 06:16:09 PM
Is this April fool or serious?
Oh yes
@Trident 4194 , dead serious given the date and time it was posted! :D :D
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 01, 2016, 06:16:09 PM
Is this April fool or serious?
And how would a Cancellation have a route & timetable change, isn't even forged well!
Quote from: Tony on April 01, 2016, 06:44:04 PM
And how would a Cancellation have a route & timetable change, isn't even forged well!
It was a joke! In no way meant to be serious hence why I left it on instead of making it look more genuine!
What are the changes to the 154 do we know yet
2025 will return back to garage at 23.41 if not swapped
Quote from: Bob on April 01, 2016, 07:49:53 PM
What are the changes to the 154 do we know yet
From the 24th April, Most evening trips will only operate between Wolverhampton and i54 only (as 54E's).
From the same date, the 4 will no longer serve Codsall. It will go as far as i54.
Quote from: Nathan on April 05, 2016, 01:09:49 PM
From the 24th April, Most evening trips will only operate between Wolverhampton and i54 only (as 54E's).
From the same date, the 4 will no longer serve Codsall. It will go as far as i54.
Is it known who will cover Cannock/Stafford to Wolverhampton evening journeys from this date?
Feel sorry for the E200s on the 81, that hill (one after merry hill towards Netherton), 840 (on monday) was screaming in first gear getting up that hill
Quote from: Chris on April 06, 2016, 07:33:18 PM
Feel sorry for the E200s on the 81, that hill (one after merry hill towards Netherton), 840 (on monday) was screaming in first gear getting up that hill
Lodge farm.
It was worse on the mercs (81) and even worse on the excels (583/81) and the worst on the B6's (283/81)
Quote from: Dom on April 06, 2016, 07:50:54 PM
Lodge farm.
It was worse on the mercs (81) and even worse on the excels (583/81) and the worst on the B6's (283/81)
Dread to think what it was like when it was like in the 70s when it was the D10, later to become the 285, suppose the only advantage was that the buses had manual gearboxes.
853 has just arrived into Wolverhampton Bus Station with the Hannover Test Blind displayed. Didn't know it was on WN's too!
Quote from: Michael Bevan on April 07, 2016, 01:00:23 PM
853 has just arrived into Wolverhampton Bus Station with the Hannover Test Blind displayed. Didn't know it was on WN's too!
It will be on all of them since they all have Hanover Destination Displays !
Quote from: Dom on April 07, 2016, 01:32:54 PM
It will be on all of them since they all have Hanover Destination Displays !
It's not, because it is overwritten when they are programmed
Quote from: Tony on April 07, 2016, 01:43:45 PM
It's not, because it is overwritten when they are programmed
Doesn't work on Perry Barr's (I suspect due to the 101).
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on April 05, 2016, 08:33:07 PM
Is it known who will cover Cannock/Stafford to Wolverhampton evening journeys from this date?
Be surprised if its not Arriva.
Apart from NX, no one else will do evenings & Sundays round there & it's too far out of the area for Diamond!
Quote from: Westy on April 07, 2016, 10:40:15 PM
Be surprised if its not Arriva.
Apart from NX, no one else will do evenings & Sundays round there & it's too far out of the area for Diamond!
i54 are obviously pulling the plug on funding on the evening trips (section past i54 towards Stafford/Hednesford). Therefore, unless NX or another operator step in commercially, these trips will not be replaced.
I think now B7's are no longer noteworthy on the 81. They're appearing at least twice, possibly 3 times a week now.
Tonight's Amazon Run (A5) is E400H 5407 in place of a Trident.
@Ronnoc 2044 is a Dundee bus?
Quote from: Dom on April 16, 2016, 06:18:55 PM
@Ronnoc 2044 is a Dundee bus?
Whoops, my mistake, it was either 2004/14/24. I don't remember the exact fleetnumber. Thanks for reminding me anyway.
2014 was a replacement this morning for 4567 with a faulty speedometer needle. 4567 is now back in service on the 59.
are wn to receive any transfers to cope with the extra pvr of covering the 69?
Quote from: mranon on April 24, 2016, 08:48:27 PM
are wn to receive any transfers to cope with the extra pvr of covering the 69?
Yes.
That reminds me forgot to mention. As of tomorrow, WN take over operation of the 69. WA's last day of operation was yesterday.
845 was on last minute route training today. 851 was doing the same thing last Sunday.
Quote from: Nathan on April 24, 2016, 08:56:20 PM
Yes.
That reminds me forgot to mention. As of tomorrow, WN take over operation of the 69. WA's last day of operation was yesterday.
845 was on last minute route training today. 851 was doing the same thing last Sunday.
@Nathan Any reason for the transfer from WA to WN?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 24, 2016, 09:01:26 PM
@Nathan Any reason for the transfer from WA to WN?
The garage notice i read said 'Due to the recent excellent performance at Wolverhampton, it has been decided that the 69 will be moved from Walsall Garage to Wolverhampton'
The Beechdale returns will be honoured by Wolves wont they?
The average passenger wont notice any change will they unless there was regular drivers on the route?
Has Wolves got any specific types that Walsall doesnt have?
I know Wolves doesnt have Presidents or Scanias, which Walsall operate.
Is Walsall getting another route to replace it?
Quote from: Westy on April 24, 2016, 10:09:59 PM
The Beechdale returns will be honoured by Wolves wont they?
The average passenger wont notice any change will they unless there was regular drivers on the route?
Has Wolves got any specific types that Walsall doesnt have?
I know Wolves doesnt have Presidents or Scanias, which Walsall operate.
Is Walsall getting another route to replace it?
Yes, nothing is changing in regards to the return ticket or timetable. WA used Double Deckers on there. WN will most likely be the same (so Tridents).
Quote from: Westy on April 24, 2016, 10:09:59 PM
Has Wolves got any specific types that Walsall doesnt have?
E400H
Quote from: Westy on April 24, 2016, 10:09:59 PM
The Beechdale returns will be honoured by Wolves wont they?
The average passenger wont notice any change will they unless there was regular drivers on the route?
Has Wolves got any specific types that Walsall doesnt have?
I know Wolves doesnt have Presidents or Scanias, which Walsall operate.
Is Walsall getting another route to replace it?
Wolverhampton has got the B7RLEs mk2 and hybrids.
Quote from: Nathan on April 24, 2016, 09:04:15 PM
The garage notice i read said 'Due to the recent excellent performance at Wolverhampton, it has been decided that the 69 will be moved from Walsall Garage to Wolverhampton'
Is the 69 going to be linked with 59?
Quote from: leewhayward29 on April 24, 2016, 11:09:47 PM
Is the 69 going to be linked with 59?
What do you mean linked? To save anymore questions, Only thing that is changing is the garage that operates it. No changes to promotional returns, no change to the amount of vehicles required on there, no change to timetable
Quote from: Nathan on April 24, 2016, 11:12:04 PM
What do you mean linked? To save anymore questions, Only thing that is changing is the garage that operates it. No changes to promotional returns, no change to the amount of vehicles required on there, no change to timetable
thanks
@Nathan
As i thought, the 69 is booked Tridents. The 4 vehicles on there today are 4317, 4549, 4567 and 4591.
Quote from: Nathan on April 25, 2016, 07:52:57 AM
As i thought, the 69 is booked Tridents. The 4 vehicles on there today are 4317, 4549, 4567 and 4591.
Why it get transferred?
Is the 126 the quickest way to get to Wolverhampton from Birmingham City Centre ? I know its the only direct link there but would it be quicker if I was to take 2 buses (I know it sounds counter intuitive but I was thinking possibly to West Brom then to Wolves ? It would save going through Dudley then up North)
I'm having trouble viewing timetables on my phone hence the post.
I appreciate any help
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on April 30, 2016, 09:23:57 PM
Is the 126 the quickest way to get to Wolverhampton from Birmingham City Centre ? I know its the only direct link there but would it be quicker if I was to take 2 buses (I know it sounds counter intuitive but I was thinking possibly to West Brom then to Wolves ? It would save going through Dudley then up North)
I'm having trouble viewing timetables on my phone hence the post.
I appreciate any help
126.
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on April 30, 2016, 09:23:57 PM
Is the 126 the quickest way to get to Wolverhampton from Birmingham City Centre ? I know its the only direct link there but would it be quicker if I was to take 2 buses (I know it sounds counter intuitive but I was thinking possibly to West Brom then to Wolves ? It would save going through Dudley then up North)
I'm having trouble viewing timetables on my phone hence the post.
I appreciate any help
The 529 and X51 can actually be quicker than the 126
Quote from: Tony on April 30, 2016, 10:30:08 PM
The 529 and X51 can actually be quicker than the 126
I agree, I caught the 529 from my bus stop and then X51, only took 60-70 mins to Birmingham.
Quote from: P419 EJW on April 30, 2016, 11:02:18 PM
I agree, I caught the 529 from my bus stop and then X51, only took 60-70 mins to Birmingham.
I've managed to check the 126 time table and the average journey is 90 minutes, so the X51 & 529 combo is faster,
Surely you'd use the Metro from Wolves to Brum or am I missing something here?
Quote from: Westy on May 01, 2016, 12:42:23 AM
Surely you'd use the Metro from Wolves to Brum or am I missing something here?
Its a 1 way journey to Wolves not to mention I have a pass thats about to expire
@GeminiFan1991 E400H's are actually the booked type on WN2 on a Sunday :)
5405 is also on there.
Quote from: Nathan on May 02, 2016, 01:07:16 PM
@GeminiFan1991 E400H's are actually the booked type on WN2 on a Sunday :)
5405 is also on there.
My bad, I cross referenced the spreadsheet before making my post as well ! :P
If anyone is interested im 99% sure 2062 is on the 2 instead of the hybrid the 2's are booked on a Sunday
Quote from: Dom on May 08, 2016, 12:07:41 PM
If anyone is interested im 99% sure 2062 is on the 2 instead of the hybrid the 2's are booked on a Sunday
B7RLE's still appear every Sunday.
I have seen a pic on facebook of some replacement parts for Wolverhampton New platinum buses. Does any one know when they will start arriving next few weeks?
5406 was on 79 today
There were a couple of posters by Stand Q in Wolverhampton Bus Station. "On Monday 16th May from 08:00am until the end of service Friday 20th May, the National Express 529 will run from Stand E. Apologises for any inconvenience caused."
I've read that 4583 is parked at YW with N/S and O/S lower panels missing. I would imagine it is having some sort of repairs.
Quote from: P419 EJW on May 11, 2016, 07:54:43 PM
There were a couple of posters by Stand Q in Wolverhampton Bus Station. "On Monday 16th May from 08:00am until the end of service Friday 20th May, the National Express 529 will run from Stand E. Apologises for any inconvenience caused."
Isn't stand E the old 6 stand?
Just reading one of the traffic notices on the 529 & it says the 79 change in Darlaston was made at the request of Valerie Vaz Mp!
Quote from: P419 EJW on May 11, 2016, 07:54:43 PM
There were a couple of posters by Stand Q in Wolverhampton Bus Station. "On Monday 16th May from 08:00am until the end of service Friday 20th May, the National Express 529 will run from Stand E. Apologises for any inconvenience caused."
It is for "Essential Maintenance" according to the Centro Website
http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/plan-your-journey/disruptions
Quote from: 1907 on May 25, 2016, 10:45:58 AM
5403 and another hybrid out on 126
What time did you see them and where?
5403 doing 10:45 departure from Birmingham, 5404 doing 11:41 departure from Wolverhampton, 5405 also out on 126
Quote from: 1907 on May 25, 2016, 11:56:57 AM
5403 doing 10:45 departure from Birmingham, 5404 doing 11:41 departure from Wolverhampton, 5405 also out on 126
Three hybrids? What's going on?
Quote from: 1907 on May 25, 2016, 11:56:57 AM
5403 doing 10:45 departure from Birmingham, 5404 doing 11:41 departure from Wolverhampton, 5405 also out on 126
5405 must be a typo for 5406 (which is on the 126) then? 5405 has been off with accident damage.
Quote from: Nathan on May 25, 2016, 01:29:35 PM
5405 must be a typo for 5406 (which is on the 126) then? 5405 has been off with accident damage.
No-one noticed 5402 yet then?
5402; 5403; 5404 & 5406 were all allocated to the 126 this morning, none are change buses
Did only see it quickly so must have been 5406. Couldn't find 5402 though
4144 now has a LED destination display.
5405 now back at WN repaired
S1 TWM 2001 made an appearance at messy hell today
Quote from: karl724223 on June 02, 2016, 05:55:10 PM
S1 TWM 2001 made an appearance at messy hell today
Replaced 4144 (which until the other day had been off the road for several months)
4144 came back out later on the pm peak 54.
@900 There isn't a 'normal' Trident board on the 28. All 3 boards are booked E200. Tridents are noteworthy on there full stop.
I thought the 255/6 on Sundays were B7RLE operated :/
Quote from: Chris on June 05, 2016, 05:43:04 PM
I thought the 255/6 on Sundays were B7RLE operated :/
@Chris It used to be. It reverted to Double Deck operation on a Sunday about March.
Cheers
@Nathan with the withdrawal of the 28 what will the extra e200 move on to be used on? 32/33?
Quote from: Chris on June 07, 2016, 04:41:24 PM
Cheers @Nathan with the withdrawal of the 28 what will the extra e200 move on to be used on? 32/33?
What are you on about?
@Tony according to the upcoming 24/7/16 changes it says that the 28's registration is being cancelled?
Quote from: Chris on June 07, 2016, 05:01:58 PM
@Tony according to the upcoming 24/7/16 changes it says that the 28's registration is being cancelled?
Answer here
http://nxbus.co.uk/files/NXWestMids/misc/NXWMWalsallServiceChangesprintready1.pdf
Photographed 5407 leaving Wolverhampton Bus Station 10 minutes ago with "59E Ashmore Park" displayed. Is this a normal working or has he just put the wrong one up?
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 11, 2016, 11:16:38 AM
Photographed 5407 leaving Wolverhampton Bus Station 10 minutes ago with "59E Ashmore Park" displayed. Is this a normal working or has he just put the wrong one up?
It happens every so often. If a bus is running late it'll do a 59E to Ashmore Park then go private and pick up service back on time (roughly)
Also happens often that drivers our the wrong display up as E to Ashmore Park is 0059 0003 while 59 Wolverhampton is 0059 002
Quote from: Dom on June 11, 2016, 11:29:06 AM
It happens every so often. If a bus is running late it'll do a 59E to Ashmore Park then go private and pick up service back on time (roughly)
Also happens often that drivers our the wrong display up as E to Ashmore Park is 0059 0003 while 59 Wolverhampton is 0059 002
Ah ok. Although he was sat in the Bus Station for around 10 minutes.
Quote from: Dom on June 11, 2016, 11:29:06 AM
It happens every so often. If a bus is running late it'll do a 59E to Ashmore Park then go private and pick up service back on time (roughly)
Also happens often that drivers our the wrong display up as E to Ashmore Park is 0059 0003 while 59 Wolverhampton is 0059 002
Yes, was just a case of that as you rightfully say
@Dom (Wrong display)
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 11, 2016, 11:31:10 AM
Ah ok. Although he was sat in the Bus Station for around 10 minutes.
Wrong destination then.
5402 has had it's vinyl's amended like BC's B5's so it appears WN's E400H's are gaining advert frames too. I'd assume the 1 branding will be amended too.
Quote from: Nathan on June 13, 2016, 10:29:02 AM
5402 has had it's vinyl's amended like BC's B5's so it appears WN's E400H's are gaining advert frames too. I'd assume the 1 branding will be amended too.
As have all of 5401-5407. Got to be honest it looks VERY scruffy, as do the E400H in general tbh.
Quote from: Nathan on June 13, 2016, 10:29:02 AM
5402 has had it's vinyl's amended like BC's B5's so it appears WN's E400H's are gaining advert frames too. I'd assume the 1 branding will be amended too.
Quote from: Dom on June 13, 2016, 07:07:04 PM
As have all of 5401-5407. Got to be honest it looks VERY scruffy, as do the E400H in general tbh.
Has to be said that the only hybrid bus, to my knowledge, is still 5505 - which even only currently has advert frames on the rear and off-side - and in my opinion, it DOES look very scruffy.. They are still white frames - so would think be an indication of them going in for paint anytime soon, I wonder?
The advert frames sit well on generic E400s. I don't think it should affect the appearance of these hybrids much. Seems as if the novelty of Hybrid buses in the West Midlands has worn off... ::)
@RS There is no usual board for a Hybrid on the 126, it may be on a school board but it is often a Trident.
Quote from: Dom on June 14, 2016, 07:25:38 PM
@RS There is no usual board for a Hybrid on the 126, it may be on a school board but it is often a Trident.
5402 may have been 126/22 but then I saw 5401 which gave me the conclusion that it's replaced something
Quote from: RS on June 14, 2016, 07:30:21 PM
5402 may have been 126/22 but then I saw 5401 which gave me the conclusion that it's replaced something
As I said there is no usual hybrid board, 126/22 is a school board, which as I said is occasionally a Hybrid.
Quote from: Dom on June 14, 2016, 07:35:11 PM
As I said there is no usual hybrid board, 126/22 is a school board, which as I said is occasionally a Hybrid.
Booked Trident. As it does a school, it's meant to be a double decker so if there is a hybrid spare in depot and there is no Trident avaliable, it will be sent out.
5404 is on the 2. Hasn't happened for a quite a bit which is why I'm posting it.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 19, 2016, 09:46:20 AM
5404 is on the 2. Hasn't happened for a quite a bit which is why I'm posting it.
It has. Hybrids are the booked type on the 2 on a Sundays (although B7's will fill in when a hybrid is not avaliable). To highlight, 5403 is on there too. The only reason it didn't happen last week was because the hybrids were off the road (5401-7 anyway).
4319 making a rare appearance on the 5, filling in for a B7RLE. Loan or transfer?
Is it true that 4565 is moving to Yardley wood
Quote from: Jack6101 on June 28, 2016, 08:37:55 AM
Is it true that 4565 is moving to Yardley wood
Could
@Tony confirm please
Quote from: RS on June 28, 2016, 09:09:46 AM
Could @Tony confirm please
Yes. It is later today. Source of information is a post on the WMPTE group on Facebook by a WN engineer.
Quote from: Nathan on June 28, 2016, 09:18:27 AM
Yes. It is later today. Source of information is a post on the WMPTE group on Facebook by a WN engineer.
It's actually currently at WB!
but yes, on its way to YW
Keep seeing completely empty 154s in Cannock. Anyone think it'll be toast before long?
Quote from: Bob on June 28, 2016, 04:55:20 PM
Keep seeing completely empty 154s in Cannock. Anyone think it'll be toast before long?
There's another 10 months of it yet.
depends on whether they beat the 70! it does have regulars using it from what I have seen. with the x68 being withdrawn from what ive heard, it may help both the 70 and 154 that use it.
Quote from: Nathan on June 13, 2016, 10:29:02 AM
5402 has had it's vinyl's amended like BC's B5's so it appears WN's E400H's are gaining advert frames too. I'd assume the 1 branding will be amended too.
5404 now has frames on both sides and an offside add fitted
Quote from: John on June 30, 2016, 08:08:30 PM
5404 how has frames on both sides and an offside add fitted
It has done for a few weeks. Coudn't be bothered to mention it. 5401 is infact the other with advert frames (and adverts fitted)
So I saw 4146 today on the mot bay and I started wondering about the rear lights on Tridents, the older tridents have different real lights to newer ones, did they come standard or did an swap them?
Quote from: Trident4590 on July 06, 2016, 06:36:14 PM
So I saw 4146 today on the mot bay and I started wondering about the rear lights on Tridents, the older tridents have different real lights to newer ones, did they come standard or did an swap them?
Came standard I believe
Quote from: Trident4590 on July 06, 2016, 06:36:14 PM
So I saw 4146 today on the mot bay and I started wondering about the rear lights on Tridents, the older tridents have different real lights to newer ones, did they come standard or did an swap them?
4125-4153 I think had the split indicator/brake light combo could possibly be up to 4156 I am not 100% sure when then full brake light and full indicator came in on the Trident 2's
Quote from: Dom on June 28, 2016, 08:05:38 PM
There's another 10 months of it yet.
Why that then is it a 2 year contract, the 54 still seems to be doing alright
Quote from: Squiz1971 on July 06, 2016, 07:08:54 PM
4125-4153 I think had the split indicator/brake light combo could possibly be up to 4156 I am not 100% sure when then full brake light and full indicator came in on the Trident 2's
The batch of 4125-4155 (apart from 4135, 4140, 4141, maybe 4142, and 4155) got the old style brake light/indicator lights. 4156 and upwards got the full brake and indicator lights.
4135 for a short time had Enviro400 style rear lights
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 06, 2016, 09:48:48 PM
The batch of 4125-4155 (apart from 4135, 4140, 4141, maybe 4142, and 4155) got the old style brake light/indicator lights. 4156 and upwards got the full brake and indicator lights.
I knew I was close with the numbers so thanks for the clarification
@P419 EJW@John yes 4135 did have E400 light clusters while at PN and it looked weird seeing 3 indicators going each side
http://www.paradisebirmingham.co.uk/access/ if u go to 15th November changes it says the 126 going down broad st and colmore row is this right
Quote from: Jack6101 on July 16, 2016, 05:17:10 PM
http://www.paradisebirmingham.co.uk/access/ if u go to 15th November changes it says the 126 going down broad st and colmore row is this right
Looks like it, personally I bloody well hope so.
Just noticed that is on about November 2015.
The change for July is that the sand pits is open out of city!
@Jon it's 843 on the 255/E
2003, 2009 and 2010 now branded for the 2 for anyone who likes branded vehicles.
Quote from: Nathan on August 01, 2016, 11:00:15 AM
2003, 2009 and 2010 now branded for the 2 for anyone who likes branded vehicles.
All of 2001-2010 to be done, just for that added frothness.
2001,2,4 also done
Anyone got a link to a pic of one of these examples so I can see how awful they are?
Quote from: the trainbasher on August 01, 2016, 09:01:09 PM
Anyone got a link to a pic of one of these examples so I can see how awful they are?
https://flic.kr/p/KgwkiW
It's not my pic but it's not that bad !
Anyone know what's wrong with 4550 sounds weird and is 4148 euro 3 or 4?
Quote from: Trident4590 on August 02, 2016, 04:54:23 PM
Anyone know what's wrong with 4550 sounds weird and is 4148 euro 3 or 4?
4148 is Euro 4.
Quote from: Nathan on August 02, 2016, 05:01:28 PM
4148 is Euro 4.
Thanks, hard to tell with the older ones
Quote from: Trident4590 on August 02, 2016, 07:48:02 PM
Thanks, hard to tell with the older ones
Really easy, they have an ad-blue filler on the offside
@RS B7's on the 27 are not rare in the slightest, happens almost everyday
Quote from: Jack6101 on August 08, 2016, 01:25:24 PM
Isn't 2059 branded for wn 5 or has it been debranded
2059/60/1 have been debranded. 2120-3 have been branded up in the new style livery (same style as the 2 but a dark green colour-same colour that was used on the 957 when it had the 49** E400's).
The 6 has had it's branding revised too. Same colour as it was before (orange) . All of 2072-7 have been redone plus the addition of 2071 (used to have advertising for the return ticket on the 10)
The 10 now has branding also. It is pink. 2069/70 noted with this branding so far.
I wonder why they didn't rebrand the existing service 5/5a buses?
The 3/4 is the next route to be branded in the new style. It is a yellow colour with orangey/red numbering. 2011/2 have had this applied in garage today.
Quote from: Nathan on August 09, 2016, 10:52:04 PM
The 3/4 is the next route to be branded in the new style. It is a yellow colour with orangey/red numbering. 2011/2 have had this applied in garage today.
2013 and 2014 also done
4552 has gained a front LED destination.
4552 left Messy Hell on a 255E 5 mins ago
Quote from: P419 EJW on August 18, 2016, 11:26:10 AM
4552 has gained a front LED destination.
Just to add that it has the abbreviated large character display similar to 4144 and 2059 (e.g. 255 Merry Hill)
Quote from: Roy on August 18, 2016, 07:00:54 PM
Just to add that it has the abbreviated large character display similar to 4144 and 2059 (e.g. 255 Merry Hill)
Yes, indeed. I instantly thought it was 4144 at first but was surprised to see it was 4552!
The first few Platinum spec E400MMC's are expected for delivery here today.
Edit: The first two (at least) have arrived and are at Park Lane.
The black headlight covers on the WN Platinums took me by surprise; not like NX to not have the headlight covers to not match the livery.. ???
Just seen a photo on Flickr showing 6761 on delivery this afternoon.
Quote from: Nathan on August 22, 2016, 09:21:12 PM
Just seen a photo on Flickr showing 6761 on delivery this afternoon.
No black headlight covers it seems? Will we see 6759/60 have theirs replaced/repainted, I wonder?
@Dom B7RLE's aren't noteworthy on the 82
Quote from: RS on August 23, 2016, 01:01:25 PM
@Dom B7RLE's aren't noteworthy on the 82
Yes they are Rhys. I live on the route, I think I would know!
6761 now at WN
Quote from: Dom on August 23, 2016, 01:05:43 PM
Yes they are Rhys. I live on the route, I think I would know!
THEY ARE NOT NOTEWORTHY
Quote from: RS on August 23, 2016, 01:10:14 PM
THEY ARE NOT NOTEWORTHY
Yes, B7RLEs are noteworthy on the 82.
Must admit I've only seen deckers on there when I've done the X96 round the wrenna
@Dom
Quote from: RS on August 23, 2016, 01:10:14 PM
THEY ARE NOT NOTEWORTHY
No need to shout comes across very rude!!!!
No further comments are required on what is/isn't Noteworthy on the 82, Winston
There are/were
3 B7RLEs on the 82 today
1 yesterday
1 last Friday.
Friday's & Yesterdays would be while the Double decks were on V, not sure about the three today though!
During the main six weeks holidays allocations vary from normal at all garages so maintenance and servicing can be done
4558 has gained a front LED destination and a logo of national express on the front.
Most/all bus stop from dudley to tesco dudley have got the black flags for platnium
Quote from: Jack6101 on August 23, 2016, 09:25:43 PM
Most/all bus stop from dudley to tesco dudley have got the black flags for platnium
As are most of the stops along the route in general.
I have a question, I imagine only
@Tony or maybe
@Driver03 will be able to answer.
I was informed by a drive that the trees around Lodge Farm and Netherton (on the 81) have been cut back meaning double deckers would be able to operate the route, could anyone confirm this for me please :)
I know that there have been times where double deckers have operated the route, but all have been swapped after 1 or 2 trips, except for 4004 which completed a full Saturday running board.
Quote from: Dom on August 26, 2016, 09:08:54 AM
I have a question, I imagine only @Tony or maybe @Driver03 will be able to answer.
I was informed by a drive that the trees around Lodge Farm and Netherton (on the 81) have been cut back meaning double deckers would be able to operate the route, could anyone confirm this for me please :)
I know that there have been times where double deckers have operated the route, but all have been swapped after 1 or 2 trips, except for 4004 which completed a full Saturday running board.
I will try and find out for you
@Dom and post what I find out :)
Quote from: Driver03 on August 26, 2016, 12:38:08 PM
I will try and find out for you @Dom and post what I find out :)
Thank you buddy!
platinum 6760 entered Wolverhampton bus station around 12:40pm driven by an inspector. it wasn't there long.
Quote from: Dom on August 23, 2016, 10:05:28 PM
As are most of the stops along the route in general.
All stops on 529 now 'black'.
Which route is being upgraded 1st the 529 or the 126 with the incoming buses so far?
Quote from: Squiz1971 on August 26, 2016, 05:44:43 PM
Which route is being upgraded 1st the 529 or the 126 with the incoming buses so far?
I believe I read on here that it would be the 529 first.. Unless I'm missing something too. ???
Quote from: clayderman on August 26, 2016, 05:49:10 PM
I believe I read on here that it would be the 529 first.. Unless I'm missing something too. ???
Couldn't remember if it was mentioned on here before so thanks for the info
@clayderman
Logic tells me that like with Birmingham and Walsall's deliveries, you won't see the Platinums out until there are enough to run the whole route (ie fully Platinum), so as I guess the 529 uses fewer buses, as soon as there are enough ready for service then the Platinum upgrade can begin.
Just my opinion, and in all honesty it probably wouldn't surprise me if they waited for all 37 to arrive before launching both routes at the same time.
Quote from: Stu on August 26, 2016, 06:34:16 PM
Logic tells me that like with Birmingham and Walsall's deliveries, you won't see the Platinums out until there are enough to run the whole route (ie fully Platinum), so as I guess the 529 uses fewer buses, as soon as there are enough ready for service then the Platinum upgrade can begin.
Just my opinion, and in all honesty it probably wouldn't surprise me if they waited for all 37 to arrive before launching both routes at the same time.
They never waited until there were enough when the 957 was upgraded. 6711 an 6712 entered service at the beginning on June 2015 with the rest arriving towards the end of June.
Quote from: 2206 on August 26, 2016, 06:37:10 PM
They never waited until there were enough when the 957 was upgraded. 6711 an 6712 entered service at the beginning on June 2015 with the rest arriving towards the end of June.
That's not what I remember, but I do know that one of the routes was Platinum before the other one (900 or 957 I forget now!). Certainly I'm sure it was the case at Walsall, when all the Platinum routes launched at once.
Quote from: Stu on August 26, 2016, 06:44:09 PM
That's not what I remember, but I do know that one of the routes was Platinum before the other one (900 or 957 I forget now!). Certainly I'm sure it was the case at Walsall, when all the Platinum routes launched at once.
Birmingham Central: 900
Walsall: X51, 997
Wolverhampton will be the 529.
Quote from: Stu on August 26, 2016, 06:44:09 PM
That's not what I remember, but I do know that one of the routes was Platinum before the other one (900 or 957 I forget now!). Certainly I'm sure it was the case at Walsall, when all the Platinum routes launched at once.
6711 and 6712 were in service on June 4th 2015, 6713+ had still not entered service by June 27th 2015.
I would imagine the 529 will get them first given it won't need as many as the 126..
How many have arrived so far
I've seen pic of 6763-5 being delivered
Quote from: Jack6101 on August 27, 2016, 09:43:52 AM
I've seen pic of 6763-5 being delivered
At least one should now have 529 branding on
Quote from: Tony on August 27, 2016, 09:47:25 AM
At least one should now have 529 branding on
Does it retain its pink branding?
Quote from: Chris on August 27, 2016, 10:31:56 AM
Does it retain its pink branding?
I hope it isn't green anyway! I don't want the platinum branding to be 50 shades of green along with the 50 shades of grey in the livery!
Will the 16 plate MMCs be reregistered before entering service on 66 plates or have they already been taxed?
If they do gain 66 plates, I wonder if they'll be Birmingham (BX) plates or not
Quote from: MW on August 27, 2016, 05:23:55 PM
Will the 16 plate MMCs be reregistered before entering service on 66 plates or have they already been taxed?
If they do gain 66 plates, I wonder if they'll be Birmingham (BX) plates or not
Doubt it; having said that, I shouldn't think too much of them having BX plates either.. Our newer buses haven't been registered in Birmingham since the 14 plates(?)
Quote from: clayderman on August 27, 2016, 09:09:59 PM
Doubt it; having said that, I shouldn't think too much of them having BX plates either.. Our newer buses haven't been registered in Birmingham since the 14 plates(?)
If they get reregistered, NXWM will have to do that surely, which is why I'm thinking they'd put Birmingham plates on.
Were the last Birmingham registered buses the Sutton Lines batch of Enviros?
Quote from: MW on August 27, 2016, 09:30:37 PM
If they get reregistered, NXWM will have to do that surely, which is why I'm thinking they'd put Birmingham plates on.
Were the last Birmingham registered buses the Sutton Lines batch of Enviros?
Yes.
Quote from: MW on August 27, 2016, 05:23:55 PM
Will the 16 plate MMCs be reregistered before entering service on 66 plates or have they already been taxed?
If they do gain 66 plates, I wonder if they'll be Birmingham (BX) plates or not
6759 - 6765 are all registered / taxed on dvla website .
Quote from: 2206 on August 27, 2016, 09:40:02 PM
Yes.
That's wrong though. The last Birmingham registered buses were Coventry's Eclipse 2's.
Quote from: Adam 404 on August 27, 2016, 03:38:07 PM
I hope it isn't green anyway! I don't want the platinum branding to be 50 shades of green along with the 50 shades of grey in the livery!
Saw one last night in the dark which is why there's no photo, the 529s have branding similar to the current Platinums except it's a red/Crimson colour - not too bad or obtrusive I think...
There are currently 6 at the garage and more on the way soon, I couldn't catch all the fleet numbers however 6760 is the one currently being used for type training at garage and the bus station.
Rumours suggest that they won't appear in service until next week at the very earliest and it'll more likely be the middle of September when they have more ready for service (wheel tags, radios, ticket machines etc).
@Dom re the 81..... I have been reliably informed that the trees on the 81 have been "pruned" as per the council programme however there is currently no plans for DDs to run on the 81 right now... Current restrictions for the allocator still apply, singles only at the moment. Hope it helps!
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on August 28, 2016, 09:15:53 AM
That's wrong though. The last Birmingham registered buses were Coventry's Eclipse 2's.
Nah it's not wrong. "63" plates are newer than "13"
Not my photo but 6760 has had it headlight changed https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidbalme/28997764320/in/dateposted/
Quote from: Driver03 on August 28, 2016, 09:50:03 AM
@Dom re the 81..... I have been reliably informed that the trees on the 81 have been "pruned" as per the council programme however there is currently no plans for DDs to run on the 81 right now... Current restrictions for the allocator still apply, singles only at the moment. Hope it helps!
Thank you
@Driver03, much appreciated!
Quote from: Driver03 on August 28, 2016, 09:50:03 AM
Saw one last night in the dark which is why there's no photo, the 529s have branding similar to the current Platinums except it's a red/Crimson colour - not too bad or obtrusive I think...
I must say the 529 branding looks brilliant! The colour really suits the livery and does to a point set up purple for the 126, it is a slightly deeper pink compared to the current/latest 529 branding, a fuschia I guess.
Platinums to enter service on the 529 tomorrow!! All baring any unforeseen issues most (if not all) will be on the 529.
Quote from: Driver03 on August 30, 2016, 01:40:17 PM
Platinums to enter service on the 529 tomorrow!! All baring any unforeseen issues most (if not all) will be on the 529.
That sorts the shortfall then with the transfers out from WN.
A platinum popped into Dudley bus station today presume going round the 126 route was unbranded
Quote from: karl724223 on August 30, 2016, 07:49:57 PM
A platinum popped into Dudley bus station today presume going round the 126 route was unbranded
One was on 126 and one on the 529 to test the next stop announcement system
I saw 6760 in Digbeth at noon today.
Quote from: Driver03 on August 28, 2016, 09:50:03 AM
Saw one last night in the dark which is why there's no photo, the 529s have branding similar to the current Platinums except it's a red/Crimson colour - not too bad or obtrusive I think...
For anyone who are interested to see the 529 branding.
Offside shot: https://flic.kr/p/LHBAqa
Rear shot: https://flic.kr/p/LAF2eR
Quote from: P419 EJW on August 31, 2016, 09:19:01 AM
For anyone who are interested to see the 529 branding.
Offside shot: https://flic.kr/p/LHBAqa
Rear shot: https://flic.kr/p/LAF2eR
The branding really suits the livery as it is not in your face bright like the old branding was. It seems to be a bit understated if I am honest but not in a bad way & its positioned differently to the other branded platinums
Platinums didn't go out this morning due to a communication breakdown, but some are going out this afternoon on afternoon 529 boards, 6764 being the first and its a late board on the 529....
6764 on the 529 currently heading to Walsall
Only seen old Tridents so far!(Had a lift to Portabello!)
6764 just spotted near junction 10 heading towards Wolves.
Quote from: P419 EJW on August 31, 2016, 09:19:01 AM
For anyone who are interested to see the 529 branding.
Offside shot: https://flic.kr/p/LHBAqa
Rear shot: https://flic.kr/p/LAF2eR
Not as bad as I was expecting
That image on the back of the platinum looks a bit questionable lol
Quote from: Lukeee on August 31, 2016, 09:04:18 PM
That image on the back of the platinum looks a bit questionable lol
I really don't understand all the comments I've seen in various places about the banding. If any of you have glowing phone shaped body parts at almost knee level, you all need to see a doctor!
6760; 6761; 6762 & 6764 all out today
And 6760 has a faulty scanner.
The 529 Stand in Wolverhampton Bus Station has been vandalised, I mean Platinumised.
Update: The 126 Stand has been Platinumised as well.
Quote from: Tony on September 01, 2016, 08:06:44 AM
6760; 6761; 6762 & 6764 all out today
6765 came out on 529 earlier this afternoon. Think it is the one it comes out of garage at 14:44 and back to garage at 00:25. 6765's destination displays are not functional.
Quote from: Gareth on September 01, 2016, 12:36:53 AM
I really don't understand all the comments I've seen in various places about the banding. If any of you have glowing phone shaped body parts at almost knee level, you all need to see a doctor!
Mine comes almost down to knee level but I certainly don't need to see a doctor ;)
Quote from: Mike K on September 01, 2016, 07:39:56 PM
Mine comes almost down to knee level but I certainly don't need to see a doctor ;)
Do you mean your mobile phone comes down to your knees or are you confusing with your landline..... :D
FWIW I didn't particularly notice the potential wrong interpretation of what the seated guy is holding but it did look a little tubular to me - in fact I thought it was meant to be a book or newspaper. That's only from photos though.
The other one I picked up on was on the first photos posted - the positioning on the nearside of the 'investing in the black country' slogan - which appears to be supporting the seated guys backside (you could describe it in two other ways I suspect) - presumably the slogan could be moved if considered necessary to avoid any unfortunate connotations......
All that said - these vehicles are great and an excellent, positive addition to these routes - let's hope WN keeps the lower panelling in top condition.
Looking at Tony's photos of 844 and 842 in repaint, it's interesting to see the state of the lower near side panels on these vehicles......would CV have to pick up the job of fixing these (if indeed they would be prior to full repaint at around 5 yrs old)?
Registrations and names for all of Wolverhampton's Platinums are now on the main site
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/fleetlist/5001-9959.html
Well done to NX Wolverhampton driver Craig Lockyear who has just won the National Bus Driver of the year competition in Blackpool
Congratulations to him.
I may have missed something here but where are the extra buses coming from for the 79? The Platinums that have arrived so far seem barely enough to cover for all the transfers that have happened over the last few weeks?
Which Platinums are on 529 today. Thanks
Unless there's been an influx of new deliveries, that all have all been rushed into service, the same ones as Friday, Saturday and Sunday probably.
Quote from: Gareth on September 05, 2016, 07:53:22 AM
Unless there's been an influx of new deliveries, that all have all been rushed into service, the same ones as Friday, Saturday and Sunday probably.
6770 was reported elsewhere & photographed on its delivery run Friday, not sure if any others came with it?
6759; 6760; 6761; 6762 & 6765 are out at the moment
Quote from: Tony on September 05, 2016, 08:32:28 AM
6759; 6760; 6761; 6762 & 6765 are out at the moment
Thanks
@Tony
Just noted 6759 passing through fetherstone .heading towards Wolverhampton.
6759 is sat in Queens square in Wolverhampton today as a show off for Platinum.
Quote from: tphi12000 on September 06, 2016, 09:07:33 AM
Just noted 6759 passing through fetherstone .heading towards Wolverhampton.
Worked a school service this morning (can only assume the 854 from the pocation you saw it)
For the Platinum fans, 6767 is now in service.
What a farce when half the service is conventional buses.
I caught 6764 with no wifi from wolves at 12.45 and while boarding 6765 left empty. We then couldn't get on the stop in Willenhall because it was presumably waiting time, then shortly afterwards we overtook it. On arrival in Walsall we couldn't get on the stand with two nxwm buses on the stand in front. Once we did 6765 arrived on D and again left empty! 6764 then couldnt leave because there were two diamonds blocking it!
Quote from: mikestone on September 06, 2016, 02:18:39 PM
What a farce when half the service is conventional buses.
I caught 6764 with no wifi from wolves at 12.45 and while boarding 6765 left empty. We then couldn't get on the stop in Willenhall because it was presumably waiting time, then shortly afterwards we overtook it. On arrival in Walsall we couldn't get on the stand with two nxwm buses on the stand in front. Once we did 6765 arrived on D and again left empty! 6764 then couldnt leave because there were two diamonds blocking it!
Are those doors they are putting on Walsall BS actually working?
Only seen the X51 stand working properly so far!
Quote from: Westy on September 06, 2016, 07:57:57 PM
Are those doors they are putting on Walsall BS actually working?
Only seen the X51 stand working properly so far!
Some of the sensors have been knocked off by the bus mirror arms when the drivers try to park as closely as possible to the stand.
Quote from: Westy on September 06, 2016, 07:57:57 PM
Are those doors they are putting on Walsall BS actually working?
Lol I read that as "are those doors they are putting in Walsall bullshit or actually working?"
For the Platinum fans, 6768 is another now in use.
Quote from: MW on September 07, 2016, 02:37:00 AM
Lol I read that as "are those doors they are putting in Walsall bullshit or actually working?"
I had to read it twice as I nearly read it the same too lol
@MW
Quote from: Nathan on September 07, 2016, 10:17:51 AM
For the Platinum fans, 6768 is another now in use.
with 529 branding yet or not?
Quote from: Squiz1971 on September 07, 2016, 11:35:48 AM
with 529 branding yet or not?
Yes. Next Stop Announcements are now working for those interested in that.
6763 has already gained the 529 eau du weed fragrance. Poor bus
Quote from: Chris on September 07, 2016, 05:25:02 PM
6763 has already gained the 529 eau du weed fragrance. Poor bus
Exactly these people don't deserve the platinum benefits.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 07, 2016, 05:35:49 PM
Exactly these people don't deserve the platinum benefits.
That problem can be had on any bus... You will get the Platinum benefit when the X10 goes Platinum
Quote from: Chris on September 07, 2016, 05:56:03 PM
That problem can be had on any bus... You will get the Platinum benefit when the X10 goes Platinum
Well he would is he could 'recognise' the benefits.
Quote from: Dom on September 07, 2016, 05:57:58 PM
Well he would is he could 'recognise' the benefits.
No Comment
@Dom he likes Platinum today must be better than the Diamond Royales
Wouldn't go that far
@Chris, what I'm saying is as much as I like the presidents and early tridents wouldn't it make more sense to stabilise fleet with mmc or streetdeck rather than going from one extreme to another?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 07, 2016, 06:03:37 PM
Wouldn't go that far @Chris, what I'm saying is as much as I like the presidents and early tridents wouldn't it make more sense to stabilise fleet with mmc or streetdeck rather than going from one extreme to another?
Do you know how businesses work????
Quote from: Chris on September 07, 2016, 05:25:02 PM
6763 has already gained the 529 eau du weed fragrance. Poor bus
They're in their element on that route.
Free WiFi while smoking their weed!
Quote from: Westy on September 07, 2016, 06:24:13 PM
They're in their element on that route.
Free WiFi while smoking their weed!
And probably not realising the 'crystal-clear' CCTV will help to identify them when complaints are made to Safer Travel! ;)
6759, 6761, 6762, 6763, 6764, 6765, 6766, 6767, 6768, 6769 and 4599 0n the 529 this morning.
4600 0n WN 33, so back at Wolverhampton.
6761 on service 712 school run.
Quote from: Roy on September 08, 2016, 04:49:16 PM
6761 on service 712 school run.
Which will mean it will go onto the 126.
It worked another school bus this morning.
Unless it gets changed if not what time will it depart Wolverhampton
Quote from: Jack6101 on September 08, 2016, 05:01:18 PM
Unless it gets changed if not what time will it depart Wolverhampton
15:58.
4597 debranded from 529 and on 126 left Dudley @ around 20 to5 towards Birmingham
Why would one of Wolves B7LREs be on the back of a tow truck heading south along the Black Country Route towards Great Bridge?
Quote from: Westy on September 09, 2016, 05:32:25 PM
Why would one of Wolves B7LREs be on the back of a tow truck heading south along the Black Country Route towards Great Bridge?
Heading to Carlyle Bus & Coach, Great Bridge possibly?
Is 753 on loan to WN swear I seen it on the WN 11 today
Quote from: Chris on September 09, 2016, 05:42:26 PM
Is 753 on loan to WN swear I seen it on the WN 11 today
Yes. Has been for the past few days.
WN 5402 on rt529 just arriving into walsall
Any timings from Dudley towards brum for 5407?
Thanks
6771 currently parked in Upper Bull Street, Birmingham
Quote from: Tony on September 10, 2016, 03:49:45 PM
6771 currently parked in Upper Bull Street, Birmingham
what a it doing there is thought the trams went from there unless there's a problem with the tram
Seen the following buses on the 529 earlier in this order:
6764/6761/6767/5402/6768/4577/6766/6760/6770/6762
Quote from: Solo1 on September 10, 2016, 04:00:32 PM
what a it doing there is thought the trams went from there unless there's a problem with the tram
Must be some kind of promotional event I would guess
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on September 10, 2016, 04:19:40 PM
Seen the following buses on the 529 earlier in this order:
6764/6761/6767/5402/6768/4577/6766/6760/6770/6762
4585 came out on 529 later in the day, must have replaced one of the buses. It's a late 529 if I'm correct with the timings.
Quote from: P419 EJW on September 10, 2016, 09:36:13 PM
4585 came out on 529 later in the day, must have replaced one of the buses. It's a late 529 if I'm correct with the timings.
Yes thought I seen 4585 as well but wasn't sure. :)
6771 was doing a short tour of Birmingham for those who attended the Bus Users UK Annual General Meeting.
The old boy driving it put 126 on the destination so the next stop info worked.
Seen while following a 60 "On diversion".
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/AqSN91
I'm very impressed with 6764 I went on it yesterday from Walsall to Wolves and the USB sockets work unlike those on the Arriva Tamworth 110 Enviro 400 deckers which can be sometimes temperamental!!
Quote from: Will on September 11, 2016, 11:28:25 AM
I'm very impressed with 6764 I went on it yesterday from Walsall to Wolves and the USB sockets work unlike those on the Arriva Tamworth 110 Enviro 400 deckers which can be sometimes temperamental!!
I would imagine the Arriva ones worked fine when they were brand new though.
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on September 11, 2016, 12:31:12 PM
I would imagine the Arriva ones worked fine when they were brand new though.
They did, and still do now.
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on September 11, 2016, 12:31:12 PM
I would imagine the Arriva ones worked fine when they were brand new though.
Yes, indeed. It's pot luck nowadays on the 110. Some buses have working sockets, some don't.
Quote from: P419 EJW on September 11, 2016, 01:35:13 PM
Yes, indeed. It's pot luck nowadays on the 110. Some buses have working sockets, some don't.
@P419 EJW that was the point I was making Liam I'm glad someone knew what I meant lol
Here is 6771 in Bull Street yesterday in an unusual shot.
http://www.wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/5001-9959/6771.html
Quote from: Will on September 11, 2016, 02:37:37 PM
@P419 EJW that was the point I was making Liam I'm glad someone knew what I meant lol
The point I was making is that you are comparing brand new buses to buses that have been on the road for 2 or 3 years.
someone told me that the arriva sapphire buses have a switch in the cab to turn the usb sockets on, maybe if that's the case ask the driver if this is so, and whether they can turn them on?
Quote from: mranon on September 11, 2016, 04:56:25 PM
someone told me that the arriva sapphire buses have a switch in the cab to turn the usb sockets on, maybe if that's the case ask the driver if this is so, and whether they can turn them on?
The ones on the Streetshites on the 1 & 2 have never worked on any journey I've been on since they were brand new....
Chance for a strange photo today. 4601 is on the 79, debranded, well almost, it still has the halo around the destination display.
Quote from: Dom on September 12, 2016, 08:17:23 AM
Chance for a strange photo today. 4601 is on the 529, debranded, well almost, it still has the halo around the destination display.
4601 is nowhere near the 529 today. It's on the 79
Quote from: Tony on September 12, 2016, 08:51:55 AM
4601 is nowhere near the 529 today. It's on the 79
Sorry yes I meant to put 79 (had 529 branding on my mind) I know it is on the 79 since I am on it currently pulling into West Bromwich
All the Wolves branded Volvos have been named.
6773 is now on the 529, void of interior and exterior branding.
Quote from: Nathan on September 12, 2016, 04:03:06 PM
6773 is now on the 529, void of interior and exterior branding.
6773/4 will stay in that condition for a couple of weeks to give two extras available for the529 until the other unbranded ones arrive at the end of the batch
753 on the 154 today made a change. Fair few passengers on too and the one leaving wolves at 11.35 ( running late ) was very busy
Quote from: Tony on September 12, 2016, 04:18:48 PM
6773/4 will stay in that condition for a couple of weeks to give two extras available for the529 until the other unbranded ones arrive at the end of the batch
By 'unbranded', surely they would have the 'generic' branding on all vehicles not labelled up for a particular service?
Quote from: Westy on September 12, 2016, 08:15:12 PM
By 'unbranded', surely they would have the 'generic' branding on all vehicles not labelled up for a particular service?
Why?
I stated above they would be branded later, and it is only a temporary measure until deliveries are complete.
Sorry if this has been mentioned before but why is there an entrance door at WN marked Alexander Dennis reception (in the shot of 6765)?
Quote from: Stevo on September 12, 2016, 08:24:00 PM
Sorry if this has been mentioned before but why is there an entrance door at WN marked Alexander Dennis reception (in the shot of 6765)?
Alexander Dennis are based there. One of there maintainence places. Sorry for the vague answer but I cannot think of the correct description of it.
I'm not sure but is there a platinum on 126 left Birmingham around 10 mins ago??
Quote from: Jack6101 on September 13, 2016, 07:34:55 AM
I'm not sure but is there a platinum on 126 left Birmingham around 10 mins ago??
6775
Just seen it coming past Roseville, not very keen on the branding if im honest.
Been on6775 today and it was making a very horrible sound from the front didn't sound good
Quote from: Jack6101 on September 14, 2016, 02:31:38 PM
Been on6775 today and it was making a very horrible sound from the front didn't sound good
Where and when did you catch it?
Around half 1 from brandall Wolverhampton road towards tesco dudley and some has informed me it in dudley around about now towards brum
@Dom
Quote from: V89MOA on September 12, 2016, 01:04:31 PM
All the Wolves branded Volvos have been named.
Any idea of names?
Quote from: Driver03 on September 15, 2016, 09:15:54 PM
Any idea of names?
So far:
2011 - Balvinder
2012 - Daniella Rosetta
2013 - Sonia
2014 - Hollie Anna
2015 - Sammy Louise
2016 - Jade Amanda
2017 - Riya
2018 - Lexi-Mae
2019 - Dawn Elizabeth
2020 - Flo Ivy
2021 - Tia Louise
2022 - Katherine
2069 - Imogen
2071 - Hannah
2073 - Nikki Louise
2074 - Patricia Kerry
2075 - Michaela Hanna
2076 - Maisie Jane
2120 - Birgit
2121 - Teigan-Lillieth
2122 - Zarreena
2123 - Parminder
Quote from: P419 EJW on September 15, 2016, 09:22:02 PM
So far:
2011 - Balvinder
2012 - Daniella Rosetta
2013 - Sonia
2014 - Hollie Anna
2015 - Sammy Louise
2016 - Jade Amanda
2017 - Riya
2018 - Lexi-Mae
2019 - Dawn Elizabeth
2020 - Flo Ivy
2021 - Tia Louise
2022 - Katherine
2069 - Imogen
2071 - Hannah
2073 - Nikki Louise
2074 - Patricia Kerry
2075 - Michaela Hanna
2076 - Maisie Jane
2120 - Birgit
2121 - Teigan-Lillieth
2122 - Zarreena
2123 - Parminder
Thanks buddy! I've got one on the list :)
Quote from: Driver03 on September 15, 2016, 09:15:54 PM
Any idea of names?
The only one I can add to that list above is 2072 which is named Lily Anne.
? Thought I,d raise this question here as I don't know to much about wolves services, why has the 529 service retained the old style service route number when most others have been renumbered, I know all about the facts that the powers that be thought people will find it easier to remember 2 numbers rather than 3. Most people I,ve encountered preferred the old system, to me it made sense.
Quote from: 2900 on September 16, 2016, 11:29:16 AM
? Thought I,d raise this question here as I don't know to much about wolves services, why has the 529 service retained the old style service route number when most others have been renumbered, I know all about the facts that the powers that be thought people will find it easier to remember 2 numbers rather than 3. Most people I,ve encountered preferred the old system, to me it made sense.
Wolverhampton already has a 59
Walsall already have a 29
Not too sure why it wasn't numbered 52, but may seem a little unconventional (now) as the 51 share the 52 route from Birmingham to Great Barr - which is quite a large chunk of the route if I say so myself. My point being that the average punter may think that the two "52's" would be the same - or at least similar..
I too preferred the old 3 digit number system. Tbh, much more clearer to me than having multiple services operating under the same number!
Quote from: clayderman on September 16, 2016, 03:58:20 PM
Wolverhampton already has a 59
Walsall already have a 29
Not too sure why it wasn't numbered 52, but may seem a little unconventional (now) as the 51 share the 52 route from Birmingham to Great Barr - which is quite a large chunk of the route if I say so myself. My point being that the average punter may think that the two "52's" would be the same - or at least similar..
I too preferred the old 3 digit number system. Tbh, much more clearer to me than having multiple services operating under the same number!
I prefer the old 3 digit route numbers for Wolves,(5**) WB (4**) Walsall (3**) this new system to me can be confusing as all 4 regions have at least 1 or 2 routes with the same digits. Unless the depot prefix is attached it could be for anything unless you are aware of what routes numbers are used in each borough that match.
Quote from: 2900 on September 16, 2016, 11:29:16 AM
? Thought I,d raise this question here as I don't know to much about wolves services, why has the 529 service retained the old style service route number when most others have been renumbered, I know all about the facts that the powers that be thought people will find it easier to remember 2 numbers rather than 3. Most people I,ve encountered preferred the old system, to me it made sense.
I always thought to myself that if they were going to change/shorten the route number, that 52 would have been an obvious choice, so you'd have the 51 Walsall to Birmingham, and 52 Walsall to Wolverhampton. I guess the renumbering of the 952 as 52 scuppered that plan.
Couldnt they number it 12 instead?
Quote from: the trainbasher on September 16, 2016, 08:16:08 PM
Couldnt they number it 12 instead?
I find that whenever NX renumbers their routes, the majority of the renumber digit(s) has some relevance/indication as to what the route had previously been numbered. I can't think of how or why 12 could be derived from the 529 - other than the fact that both numbers share "2"
Not that I'm trying to knock your point, but I'd like to know where the 12 comes from? The last digits of the 51/52?
Quote from: clayderman on September 16, 2016, 08:59:55 PM
I find that whenever NX renumbers their routes, the majority of the renumber digit(s) has some relevance/indication as to what the route had previously been numbered. I can't think of how or why 12 could be derived from the 529 - other than the fact that both numbers share "2"
Not that I'm trying to knock your point, but I'd like to know where the 12 comes from? The last digits of the 51/52?
That, along with it being a number not used in either Wolverhampton or Walsall AFAIK
Quote from: the trainbasher on September 16, 2016, 09:16:39 PM
That, along with it being a number not used in either Wolverhampton or Walsall AFAIK
True - or any other West Midlands based garage for that matter! :P
Quote from: clayderman on September 16, 2016, 09:34:00 PM
True - or any other West Midlands based garage for that matter! :P
The last 12 was basically the 3 route at YW. Renumbered to 3, for some reason, and the 4 was renumbered to 5. Would have gone well if they maybe renumbered the 31 to 5, and kept the 4. That way, routes 2, 3, 4 (current 5 but used to be route 4), 5 (current 31) and 6 would serve Stratford Road.
If it ay bost Dow fix it
Quote from: MW on September 16, 2016, 09:40:55 PM
The last 12 was basically the 3 route at YW. Renumbered to 3, for some reason, and the 4 was renumbered to 5. Would have gone well if they maybe renumbered the 31 to 5, and kept the 4. That way, routes 2, 3, 4 (current 5 but used to be route 4), 5 (current 31) and 6 would serve Stratford Road.
There used to be a 38 service as well.
Quote from: Ronnoc on September 16, 2016, 10:03:37 PM
There used to be a 38 service as well.
City Centre - Stratford Road - Warwick Road - Acocks Green - Sheldon - Airport.
AG used to use B6LE on it I think.
Quote from: 2206 on September 16, 2016, 10:05:27 PM
City Centre - Stratford Road - Warwick Road - Acocks Green - Sheldon - Airport.
AG used to use B6LE on it I think.
It was the 38Y before that under Travel Yourbus
Quote from: Stu on September 16, 2016, 07:53:49 PM
I always thought to myself that if they were going to change/shorten the route number, that 52 would have been an obvious choice, so you'd have the 51 Walsall to Birmingham, and 52 Walsall to Wolverhampton. I guess the renumbering of the 952 as 52 scuppered that plan.
Or go right back to its origins and call it the 5B?
According to flickr 6776/6778 left Falkirk yesterday
A Platinum E400 MMC was on the 126 on Smallbrook Queensway at 10:05.
It was 6761 that was on Smallbrook Queensway at 10:05, it was at Five Ways at about 14:20.
Quote from: Chris on September 17, 2016, 11:38:07 AM
According to flickr 6776/6778 left Falkirk yesterday
6779 is at Park Lane too.
@2206 6761, 6773 and 6775 are on the 126 today.
Has anyone got a picture of any 126 branded platinum
Spotted my first Wolves platinum 6773 on 126 in Birmingham around 16:45. Did seem very strange to see it without branding ( I know the reaso why it's not branded)
6773 is out on 126.
Departed 11:03 from City to Wolverhampton
6774/6775 also out on 126 today
will any new voith platinums be running the 126 service on Saturday by any chance as I'd like to catch one
Quote from: Demonstrator4698 on September 22, 2016, 01:35:17 PM
will any new voith platinums be running the 126 service on Saturday by any chance as I'd like to catch one
Platinums have been appearing for the past few weeks so yes.
Quote from: Demonstrator4698 on September 22, 2016, 01:35:17 PM
will any new voith platinums be running the 126 service on Saturday by any chance as I'd like to catch one
Rubbing the crystal ball.......
Mmmmm, being as most are in service and there are a fair few branded I'd go with... yeah there will probably be a few out :D
Quote from: Driver03 on September 22, 2016, 02:07:11 PM
Rubbing the crystal ball.......
Mmmmm, being as most are in service and there are a fair few branded I don't go with... yeah there will probably be a few out :D
6780-2 are a few more that have been delivered to Park Lane.
I rode on 6778 on the 126 today at about 2pm from Brum. 25 minute wait then it and a Trident came. 6778 was taking several seconds to restart after stop/start and was running later and later. The driver terminated it in Dudley Bus Station. In addition the next stop display was erratic and said 'Motorway Bridge Asda' for several miles. Teething troubles, no doubt.
Quote from: Stevo on September 22, 2016, 08:33:44 PM
I rode on 6778 on the 126 today at about 2pm from Brum. 25 minute wait then it and a Trident came. 6778 was taking several seconds to restart after stop/start and was running later and later. The driver terminated it in Dudley Bus Station. In addition the next stop display was erratic and said 'Motorway Bridge Asda' for several miles. Teething troubles, no doubt.
It wasn't actually losing any time
It was the 14:11 from Birmingham and left at 14:25 due Dudley at 15:10 arrived 15:25
Quote from: Tony on September 22, 2016, 09:04:12 PM
It wasn't actually losing any time
It was the 14:11 from Birmingham and left at 14:25 due Dudley at 15:10 arrived 15:25
Yes but I have found timings on 126 to be slightly long, as often a trident would stop a couple of times along Wolverhampton road as during day I think it's given far too long.
Quote from: Nathan on September 22, 2016, 02:06:36 PM
Platinums have been appearing for the past few weeks so yes.
many thanks
@Nathan
Quote from: Driver03 on September 22, 2016, 02:07:11 PM
Rubbing the crystal ball.......
Mmmmm, being as most are in service and there are a fair few branded I'd go with... yeah there will probably be a few out :D
thanks :)
@Driver03
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 23, 2016, 08:00:23 AM
Yes but I have found timings on 126 to be slightly long, as often a trident would stop a couple of times along Wolverhampton road as during day I think it's given far too long.
Of course, you want them to be late, so you can complain?
6783, 4, 5 now delivered.
6777 is on 126.
Passed Five Ways 08:18 to Wolverhampton
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 24, 2016, 08:54:29 AM
And you stand there and look at all departure times?
like you do Yawn
@Dom @karl724223 @Trident 4194 Keep your petty comments/arguments off the forum & stop filling the threads full of crap, we're all getting tired of reading it! Winston
4559 is on the 1 today
Caught the 22.25 529 earlier fab and smooth as expected 😀
6773 is at Showbus today.
Are any of 6780-6785 likely to debut in service today?
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on September 26, 2016, 08:35:52 AM
Are any of 6780-6785 likely to debut in service today?
6780; 6781 & 6782 all on the 126 today
Currently on 6782 on the 126 and its creaking is that normal?.. ::)
When are 6787 upto 6795 due arrive at PL I know they are on order
4552 has led
Quote from: Tony on September 27, 2016, 10:05:22 AM
6780; 6781 & 6782 all on the 126 today
6783, 6784 and 6785 are too.
Quote from: Nathan on September 27, 2016, 12:40:23 PM
6783, 6784 and 6785 are too.
6785 & 6783 have just left brum with about a 2 min gap between them for anyone who's after them.
Quote from: Will on September 27, 2016, 12:08:26 PM
Currently on 6782 on the 126 and its creaking is that normal?.. ::)
6775 has it as well it's very bad in traffic
Quote from: Solo1 on September 27, 2016, 12:20:51 PM
When are 6787 upto 6795 due arrive at PL I know they are on order
If anything they are probably still being finished off at Falkirk before heading down the M6/74 to Wolverhampton. I suspect they will in use fairly quickly after arriving.
Which platinums are on 126 service
Quote from: Solo1 on October 01, 2016, 08:34:43 AM
Which platinums are on 126 service
Those you would expect to be on the 126. Plus 4586 which I am on sadly...
Quote from: Cheese on October 01, 2016, 09:50:14 AM
Those you would expect to be on the 126. Plus 4586 which I am on sadly...
If its anything like the ones on the 529, at least you won't be stop starting all the time!
From the complaints I've reading on the Facebook, are NX doing anything to address the problem & is there a way to disable the stop start, because it's totally shot the 529 to pieces it seems?
4543 also on 126
Quote from: Westy on October 01, 2016, 10:11:17 AM
If its anything like the ones on the 529, at least you won't be stop starting all the time!
From the complaints I've reading on the Facebook, are NX doing anything to address the problem & is there a way to disable the stop start, because it's totally shot the 529 to pieces it seems?
There must be other factors involved. If the stop/start is anything like the two E200s at AG, then it only takes seconds.
People moaning for the sake of it. How the chuff does stop/start engine technology affect the reliability of a service?
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on October 01, 2016, 01:21:21 PM
People moaning for the sake of it. How the chuff does stop/start engine technology affect the reliability of a service?
How do the car drivers cope with it then as a lot of modern cars now have the stop/start facility fitted and I would surmise it would be no different on the new Platinums being delivered, 2203 & 2204's stop/start as far as I have noticed when they have been on the 72 doesn't affect the running of the journey only there are some of the passengers that make comments about the driver has stalled it again etc. Not been on any of the new 16/66 E400MMC Platty's yet due to not being that side of the midlands but will look forward to possibly riding them on the Sutton Lines especially on the Aston Expressway when they are delivered and put into service fully branded
Most new cars now are stop / start. On automatics the engine starts as soon as you touch the accelerator pedal, on manuals when you put it into gear. Certainly doesn't cause any delays.
22,23,24 etc and 37 seem to cope fine with stop start buses.
Why are Wolverhampton Garage getting rid of there of there former branded Tridents for the 529 to Walsall and Birmingham I mean you could de brand them and keep them, also why have they scrapped 4593.
Quote from: BusFan94 on October 01, 2016, 06:58:57 PM
Why are Wolverhampton Garage getting rid of there of there former branded Tridents for the 529 to Walsall and Birmingham I mean you could de brand them and keep them, also why have they scrapped 4593.
They need to make room for the Platinum buses.
Quote from: BusFan94 on October 01, 2016, 06:58:57 PM
Why are Wolverhampton Garage getting rid of there of there former branded Tridents for the 529 to Walsall and Birmingham I mean you could de brand them and keep them, also why have they scrapped 4593.
Because they are no longer needed at WN who have got new platinums for the 126/529. Were would they keep the extra 37 buses?
Because 4593 was fire damaged.
According to 4593's photo page it never said anything about it being fire damaged how badly damaged was it and when did it happen
Quote from: BusFan94 on October 01, 2016, 07:15:03 PM
According to 4593's photo page it never said anything about it being fire damaged how badly damaged was it and when did it happen
http://www.expressandstar.com/picture-galleries/news-pictures/2016/02/07/pictured-wolverhampton-firefighters-tackle-blazing-bus/
That looks bad do we know what other bus was damaged
Quote from: BusFan94 on October 01, 2016, 06:58:57 PM
Why are Wolverhampton Garage getting rid of there of there former branded Tridents for the 529 to Walsall and Birmingham I mean you could de brand them and keep them, also why have they scrapped 4593.
They will have had approaching 40 new buses so need to lose a similar number to other garages. There are a lot of operational considerations with what goes where, types at other garages, transmission types, emissions considerations etc. It was always going to be mainly Tridents that went, and WN has a huge batch of 45xx ones.
4593 was completely destroyed in a fire.
Do we know what other bus was damaged because in the Express and Star it says one other bus damaged.
Quote from: BusFan94 on October 02, 2016, 08:23:13 AM
Do we know what other bus was damaged because in the Express and Star it says one other bus damaged.
And you believe everything you read in the E&S? Nothing else was damaged thanks to the quick thinking staff.
Oh ok I don't really read the E&S
Quote from: BusFan94 on October 02, 2016, 10:37:49 AM
Oh ok I don't really read the E&S
Oh don't you??
Quote from: BusFan94 on October 02, 2016, 08:23:13 AM
Do we know what other bus was damaged because in the Express and Star it says one other bus damaged.
Well I do stupid autocorrect but only online and on here but I do have someone deliver it to my house
Yawn
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on October 03, 2016, 01:34:18 AM
Yawn
Well it is half one in the morning I'd expect you are getting tired.
6786, 7, 8 are in service now.
126 branded 6779 has failed, with engineer's van in attendance, on Highgate Middleway, just past the 50 stop city bound. Not quite sure what a WN bus would be doing there.
6788; 9 have arrived. 4568 should have made the move to YW.
I've just past 6792 heading south in Glasgow
@Tony If you know someone who can speak to whoever looks after Stafford Gaol Square stop for the 54, all the info needs to be on Stand A3 as everyone was waiting on A1 was told by the 1325 54 to Wolves driver that his 'gaffa' told him to stop at A3 instead!
it was moved to stand a3 very early this year, but as Stafford is in the dark ages, the timetable and info electronic display were never changed off a1, but timetable was put on a3. think it was moved as arriva had 3/4 other departures off a1, then they moved the 76 to a3.
it needs sorting.
E200 on 81/45 today instead of the booked B7, first time in ages.
4577 at WA tonight
6789 & 6790 both out on the 126 today
Just a quick question. With 840-844 gone to Coventry, what replaced them? Or has a route had it's allocation changed?
Quote from: MW on October 12, 2016, 06:31:02 PM
Just a quick question. With 840-844 gone to Coventry, what replaced them? Or has a route had it's allocation changed?
The 28 was withdrawn. That was 3 buses.
Quote from: Nathan on October 12, 2016, 06:46:28 PM
The 28 was withdrawn. That was 3 buses.
What was it replaced by?
Quote from: Dom on October 12, 2016, 07:08:52 PM
Rerouting of the 69.
New Invention-Willenhall section covered by an increase in frequency on the 41 (which the 28 shared on that section anyway)
6792 has made it out on the 126 this afternoon. Different upper window branding compared to the other Generic branded
Quote from: Dom on October 13, 2016, 07:30:59 PM
6792 has made it out on the 126 this afternoon. Different upper window branding compared to the other Generic branded
is it bout the 11 per week black country travel
Didn't take long for the vandalism to occur on the Platinum's, in particular the 126 batch, 6784 & 6787 have had USB ports ripped out upstairs.
Quote from: Nathan on October 15, 2016, 07:47:52 AM
Didn't take long for the vandalism to occur on the Platinum's, in particular the 126 batch, 6784 & 6787 have had USB ports ripped out upstairs.
Really not surprised
Quote from: John on October 15, 2016, 08:19:00 AM
Really not surprised
Neither. Won't take long for your batch to blend up in the same state
@John.
I've not seen them, but they can't be that good (design wise) if they are getting pulled out or trashed by "fools" already surely?
6775/76 both on the 126 now with full branding
Quote from: broma1k on October 15, 2016, 03:46:12 PM
6775/76 both on the 126 now with full branding
They've been branded and in sercice for a month or so.
Is there anyway of preventing stop start on these platinums?
On BC hybrids they don't always stop start in fact yesterday from brum to harborne they only did it once?
You mean 6773,6774? Still unbranded as of yesterday
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 15, 2016, 04:04:03 PM
Is there anyway of preventing stop start on these platinums?
On BC hybrids they don't always stop start in fact yesterday from brum to harborne they only did it once?
If these are anything like 2203/2204 (and I expect they are) the engine cuts off when you put the handbrake on. It'll stay off for a minute if you don't do anything and then automatically fire up again. It'll fire up if you release the handbrake too.
The hybrids I expect are automatic like cars like the Toyota Prius. I've never actually been on these hybrids (either BC or WNs so this is a guess).
Quote from: MW on October 15, 2016, 05:04:06 PM
If these are anything like 2203/2204 (and I expect they are) the engine cuts off when you put the handbrake on. It'll stay off for a minute if you don't do anything and then automatically fire up again. It'll fire up if you release the handbrake too.
The hybrids I expect are automatic like cars like the Toyota Prius. I've never actually been on these hybrids (either BC or WNs so this is a guess).
I was told that you press the brake with the handbrake it cuts out then press the accelerator and it turns back on.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 15, 2016, 04:04:03 PM
Is there anyway of preventing stop start on these platinums?
Quite simply, yes there is. Just keep driving without stopping and putting on the handbrake. I can imagine a few passengers being inconvenienced though when the bus doesn't stop for them, just to prevent the stop/start technology doing its thing.
The other alternative is to spend hundreds of thousands of pounds ripping out the engines/gearboxes and replacing them with less enviromentally friendly ones, which kind of defeats the object of what the stop/start micro-hybrid technology was developed for.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 15, 2016, 04:04:03 PM
Is there anyway of preventing stop start on these platinums?
On BC hybrids they don't always stop start in fact yesterday from brum to harborne they only did it once?
I don't understand all the technicalities of how the B5LH stop start works but I understand it's something to do with the extent to which the battery is charged. If the charge is low, the engine won't cut out, so journeys can vary a lot in terms of when the stop start kicks in.
6794 in service on the 126 today
PD0001111/105 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Birmingham and Wolverhampton given service number 126 effective from 30-Oct-2016. To amend Route.
Quote from: monkeyjoe on October 17, 2016, 05:10:17 PM
PD0001111/105 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Birmingham and Wolverhampton given service number 126 effective from 30-Oct-2016. To amend Route.
Is this to reroute it back up Broad Street again??
4555 and another Trident are now been branded for the 59
Quote from: Nathan on October 20, 2016, 04:47:28 PM
I thought Red & Green should never be seen...
Blue and Green should never be seen. Otherwise we would have to ban Christmas!
6791 should have just arrived
Quote from: Gareth on October 20, 2016, 06:24:28 PM
Blue and Green should never be seen. Otherwise we would have to ban Christmas!
The branding reminds me of that awful green branding they applied to frequent corridors a few years ago.
Quote from: Nathan on October 20, 2016, 07:15:44 PM
The branding reminds me of that awful green branding they applied to frequent corridors a few years ago.
9 branding on bx09 environs?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 20, 2016, 07:34:23 PM
9 branding on bx09 environs?
Lots of corridors had it, Tridents branded for the 51, Tridents branded for the 97, Mercs/Gemini branded for the Dudley Road, Presidents/Tridents branded for the Bristol Road, Presidents/Tridents branded for the Pershore Road, Gemini branded for the Outer Circle, Tridents branded for the 14, E400 branded for the Hagley Road and E400 branded for the 50.
Quote from: Nathan on October 20, 2016, 07:15:44 PM
The branding reminds me of that awful green branding they applied to frequent corridors a few years ago.
Surprised that they're not being Crimsoned before being branded
Quote from: 2206 on October 20, 2016, 07:37:29 PM
Lots of corridors had it, Bristol Road, Pershore Road, Gemini branded for the Outer Circle, Tridents branded for the 14, E400 branded for the Hagley Road and E400 branded for the 50.
Soho road
Quote from: Winston on October 20, 2016, 07:38:03 PM
Surprised that they're not being Crimsoned before being branded
The lack of crimson treatment would seem to suggest they won't be painted any time soon.
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on October 20, 2016, 07:59:41 PM
The lack of crimson treatment would seem to suggest they won't be painted any time soon.
4546 / 49 & 4551 were all early NX repaints with connector bars that weren't re-trimmed & would have been ideal candidates to Crimson & brand for the 59
Quote from: Winston on October 20, 2016, 08:16:34 PM
4546 / 49 & 4551 were all early NX repaints with connector bars that weren't re-trimmed & would have been ideal candidates to Crimson & brand for the 59
4549 was repainted last year, 4550 on the other hand...
Quote from: Alex on October 20, 2016, 08:24:11 PM
4549 was repainted last year, 4550 on the other hand...
Typo, I was meant to type 4546 / 50 & 51
Quote from: Winston on October 20, 2016, 08:56:00 PM
Typo, I was meant to type 4546 / 50 & 51
Three different interiors which are yampy with the same etching they had years ago in some cases, three different variations of the same livery. Dented, faded, chipped paintwork. Why can't Wolvertrampton have abit of Crimson? Not that it would really be appreciated.
Since all of WN platinums have arrived will 6773/4 be branded?
Quote from: Chris on October 22, 2016, 12:12:08 PM
Since all of WN platinums have arrived will 6773/4 be branded?
Yes they will. Although, they are still unbranded as of today.
Quote from: John on October 20, 2016, 01:21:38 PM
4555 and another Trident are now been branded for the 59
4559 and 4560 also now branded.
Since nx run the 255 all day do the deckers get used all day especially Sundays?
Quote from: Chris on October 25, 2016, 03:14:36 PM
Since nx run the 255 all day do the deckers get used all day especially Sundays?
Yes.
Quote from: Nathan on October 18, 2016, 02:50:04 PM
The 126 will revert to serving Broad Street from Sunday 30th October.
http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/126-route-change-from-sunday-30th-october
No it won't
http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/update-service-126-route-change
@Dom i know it won't be now. A notice on the NXWM site now states it will use the current route until further notice.
Quote from: Nathan on October 27, 2016, 10:58:13 PM
http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/update-service-126-route-change
@Dom i know it won't be now. An notice on the NXWM site now states it will use the current route until further notice.
I wonder when the pillock who decided the late layout changes will get his promotion.
The 154 seems to have picked up a fair bit been on the 11 am ish one from vmcannock and it was pretty busy there were even 8 people waiting in Featherstone. One of them asked if the route was axed in November. Is it going to be?
I hope not, but its funny how rumours are flying around about this and the 54. the rumour on the 54 was end of oct/November. really rely on this service to get to the station in time.
Quote from: Bob on October 29, 2016, 02:45:07 PM
The 154 seems to have picked up a fair bit been on the 11 am ish one from vmcannock and it was pretty busy there were even 8 people waiting in Featherstone. One of them asked if the route was axed in November. Is it going to be?
From Hednesford its proving to be quite a success with pensioners and generally people who only want to pay £4 for a daysaver. Hopefully they'll keep the 154/54 going after all its pretty much running Arriva off the Wolverhamptons from Cannock.
Quote from: The King on October 30, 2016, 10:04:43 AM
From Hednesford its proving to be quite a success with pensioners and generally people who only want to pay £4 for a daysaver. Hopefully they'll keep the 154/54 going after all its pretty much running Arriva off the Wolverhamptons from Cannock.
Do you think it's having an effect on the 70?
Has 6791 entered services yet as the last one to arrive at Park Lane
Quote from: Solo1 on November 07, 2016, 08:15:03 PM
Has 6791 entered services yet as the last one to arrive at Park Lane
Back at Falkirk
@Tony do you know why it's gone back
Quote from: 900 on November 09, 2016, 08:19:21 AM
Unidentfifed platinum on the WN59
6792 on WN59
6794 on WN59
6759 was the third. All 3 have been swapped for Tridents.
126 earlier with alight only/ not in service on rear display but 126 Wolverhampton alight only on front most likely due to the burnt tree traffic light issue
The sole surviving Wolves Volvo B10B 1328 has been scrapped.
@Cheese in response to your noteworthy post, as a reference for others, Platinums are the normal allocation on the 32/33 on Saturdays now.
Quote from: Nathan on December 03, 2016, 10:16:17 AM
@Cheese in response to your noteworthy post, as a reference for others, Platinums are the normal allocation on the 32/33 on Saturdays now.
I did wonder that actually, in a similar way to Walsall using spares on the 6/7. Thanks.
Quote from: Cheese on December 03, 2016, 10:24:38 AM
I did wonder that actually, in a similar way to Walsall using spares on the 6/7. Thanks.
Putting them on the 32/33 saves extra type training, as they are on the 126 rota.
Are 6773/6774 staying unbranded ?
6791 finally in service.
To head off wall to wall noteworthy workings in the future, Enviro 400MMC Platinums are now the booked vehicles for services 255 and 256 on a Sunday.
Quote from: Roy on December 11, 2016, 10:00:00 AM
To head off wall to wall noteworthy workings in the future, Enviro 400MMC Platinums are now the booked vehicles for services 255 and 256 on a Sunday.
Wouldn't surprise me if another route was platinum operated on a Sunday, 59 maybe?
Quote from: Roy on December 11, 2016, 10:00:00 AM
To head off wall to wall noteworthy workings in the future, Enviro 400MMC Platinums are now the booked vehicles for services 255 and 256 on a Sunday.
The spares (if there are any, usually only 1 or two) appear on the 1 Monday-Friday, 32/33 on Saturdays and 255/6 on Sundays.
To clarify what I posted earlier, Enviro 400MMC Platinums are now the booked vehicles for all four running boards on services 255 and 256 on a Sunday. The four buses today are 6761, 6793, 6794 and 6795.
Quote from: Roy on December 11, 2016, 03:32:40 PM
To clarify what I posted earlier, Enviro 400MMC Platinums are now the booked vehicles for all four running boards on services 255 and 256 on a Sunday. The four buses today are 6761, 6793, 6794 and 6795.
Quote from: Nathan on December 11, 2016, 11:04:48 AM
The spares (if there are any, usually only 1 or two) appear on the 1 Monday-Friday, 32/33 on Saturdays and 255/6 on Sundays.
Thanks guys, have updated the Usual Allocations sheet accordingly. For future reference, please post any information like this in the NX Usual Allocations (http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=4016.0) topic please.
Quote from: Stu on December 11, 2016, 07:48:52 PM
Thanks guys, have updated the Usual Allocations sheet accordingly. For future reference, please post any information like this in the NX Usual Allocations (http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=4016.0) topic please.
The WN 1 hasn't been updated
@Stu
Am I right in saying that 6795 has the same stop start system to 6773 which is different to the rest of the platinum batch? So when the handbrake is applied the engine automatically cuts out?
Quote from: Dom on December 21, 2016, 10:24:55 AM
Am I right in saying that 6795 has the same stop start system to 6773 which is different to the rest of the platinum batch? So when the handbrake is applied the engine automatically cuts out?
A few of ours also cut out even if the doors are not open. 6796 and 6800 ring a bell. It can be quite dangerous say if you are waiting to turn into a side road and want to go in a gap in the traffic, because it takes nearly 2 seconds to restart and get going. I just hope they were set up wrong and are changed to the same system as the majority of the MMCs
4543 on 256 kept jerking when stationary any ideas?
Three 126's (I'm currently on one of them) in convoy with each other from Birmingham is that normal?
Quote from: Will on December 30, 2016, 04:26:34 PM
Three 126's (I'm currently on one of them) in convoy with each other from Birmingham is that normal?
3 9s were together too in Halesowen at 14:40
Quote from: Will on December 30, 2016, 04:26:34 PM
Three 126's (I'm currently on one of them) in convoy with each other from Birmingham is that normal?
In a word, yes!
Have the USB ports been disabled on the Platinum's as 6774 has no power?
2025 on the 69 Wolverhampton bound around 16.40 yesterday afternoon, is this unusual, usually a trident.
I have yet to see 6789 6791 and 6793 I notice the last two are not branded as 126 but are they normally in use on the 126? I assume they are not likely to use these on the 529? or do they? thanks
Quote from: windy miller on January 06, 2017, 05:52:32 PM
I have yet to see 6789 6791 and 6793 I notice the last two are not branded as 126 but are they normally in use on the 126? I assume they are not likely to use these on the 529? or do they? thanks
I had 6793 on the 126 today.
Quote from: windy miller on January 06, 2017, 05:52:32 PM
I have yet to see 6789 6791 and 6793 I notice the last two are not branded as 126 but are they normally in use on the 126? I assume they are not likely to use these on the 529? or do they? thanks
6791 was on the 33 last Saturday.
Quote from: windy miller on January 06, 2017, 05:52:32 PM
I have yet to see 6789 6791 and 6793 I notice the last two are not branded as 126 but are they normally in use on the 126? I assume they are not likely to use these on the 529? or do they? thanks
6791 was on the 126 today. As the last two are unbranded, they appear on both the 126 or 529 where required. Any unbranded Platinums that are are left over spare after all 126/529 boards are allocated, they appear elsewhere on other routes, 1, 32/33 and 255/6 see them on a regular basis (32/33 are allocated Platinums on Saturdays, as are Sunday 255/6's)
thanks for the info Nathan I may have to spend some time on the bus station at wolves. A ride on the 126 over the full route in either direction is a drag >:(
Quote from: windy miller on January 07, 2017, 03:27:00 AM
thanks for the info Nathan I may have to spend some time on the bus station at wolves. A ride on the 126 over the full route in either direction is a drag >:(
If your planning on getting Birmingham from Wolverhampton, the 529 & X51 is actually quicker !
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on January 07, 2017, 03:45:25 AM
If your planning on getting Birmingham from Wolverhampton, the 529 & X51 is actually quicker !
It can be. But doing that won't find said required Platinumbs.
Quote from: windy miller on January 07, 2017, 03:27:00 AM
thanks for the info Nathan I may have to spend some time on the bus station at wolves. A ride on the 126 over the full route in either direction is a drag >:(
6789 spent a day off the 126, it was on the 33 service (Wolverhampton-Northwood Park)
6773 now branded for 126 and is on 32/3 today
6774 has also now been branded for WN126
Seen on a Facebook group a 256A which
@P419 EJW has explained is an old route last used in the early 2000s, why would it be still in the display?
6759/60 both on 255 seems like a regular occurrence?
Quote from: Chris on January 25, 2017, 08:28:27 AM
6759/60 both on 255 seems like a regular occurrence?
@Chris Yes, WN's MMC's are regulars on the 1, Northwood Park circulars and 25* services in the week if there are any spare.
How long has there been Tridents branded with the new style 59 branding?
Surely they should have painted them in crimson before adding the branding?
Quote from: Westy on January 28, 2017, 11:17:27 PM
How long has there been Tridents branded with the new style 59 branding?
Surely they should have painted them in crimson before adding the branding?
The route branding frenzy in Wolves happened mid to late last year. Unsure why WN are down the bottom of the chain for some Crimson though.
Quote from: Westy on January 28, 2017, 11:17:27 PM
How long has there been Tridents branded with the new style 59 branding?
Surely they should have painted them in crimson before adding the branding?
@Westy 4555 was the first one branded up on 20th October, the rest of 4556-64 shortly followed in November.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on January 28, 2017, 11:19:20 PM
The route branding frenzy in Wolves happened mid to late last year. Unsure why WN are down the bottom of the chain for some Crimson though.
Wolves seem to have more older buses than Walsall that are able to be repainted above 4425, unless Im mistaken, as besides the old 529's that were transferred over in the 45xx series, most of Walsall's older deckers are in the 41xx & 43xx series, with the recent 42xxs transferring out again recently, which leaves only the remaining Scanias, B7Lres & Enviros still to do.
Would I be correct in thinking only half of Walsall's current fleet could be crimsoned eventually, the rest being too old to count?
Quote from: Westy on January 29, 2017, 12:15:21 AM
Wolves seem to have more older buses than Walsall that are able to be repainted above 4425, unless Im mistaken, as besides the old 529's that were transferred over in the 45xx series, most of Walsall's older deckers are in the 41xx & 43xx series, with the recent 42xxs transferring out again recently, which leaves only the remaining Scanias, B7Lres & Enviros still to do.
Would I be correct in thinking only half of Walsall's current fleet could be crimsoned eventually, the rest being too old to count?
It's only the early Tridents that aren't eligible for repaint ? They have 4597 - 4605 so they could be repainted. Their E400s also count alongside the E200s (?) Their B7RLE's & Scanias are being done. So it's just 30 of their 39 Tridents that can't be repainted but I would imagine everything else is ok.
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on January 29, 2017, 12:26:38 AM
It's only the early Tridents that aren't eligible for repaint ? They have 4597 - 4605 so they could be repainted. Their E400s also count alongside the E200s (?) Their B7RLE's & Scanias are being done. So it's just 30 of their 39 Tridents that can't be repainted but I would imagine everything else is ok.
Doesnt it also depend on when the vehicle was last repainted as well?
4315 noe had a front LED display, with the number on the left and large destination. On the 11 today
Quote from: John on February 01, 2017, 04:47:15 PM
4315 noe had a front LED display, with the number on the left and large destination. On the 11 today
It's had an LED for a bit now.
Platinum 6791 on the 255
Will the 254 ever return? Which route did it take as I was living in Cornwall at the time of the first Dudley review which changed the 260/261. Do you think they should replace the 205 with a 258 205 to Kingswinford and 256 route to wolves again? Just feel that the 205 is being a little under used off peak or perhaps replace the 255E with a bus that goes up to Russell's hall hospital and then like then X10. I know it sounds like a weird idea I just have the feeling that the 205 is going down the route of being withdrawn
Quote from: Chris on February 18, 2017, 07:01:36 PM
Will the 254 ever return? Which route did it take as I was living in Cornwall at the time of the first Dudley review which changed the 260/261. Do you think they should replace the 205 with a 258 205 to Kingswinford and 256 route to wolves again? Just feel that the 205 is being a little under used off peak or perhaps replace the 255E with a bus that goes up to Russell's hall hospital and then like then X10. I know it sounds like a weird idea I just have the feeling that the 205 is going down the route of being withdrawn
The 254 operated into Wombourne via Gilbert Lane (past the police station) and around the Green to Planks Lane, Giggetty Lane and Brickbridge Lane. It then operated via the Himley Bypass and A449 to Wall Heath Church where it then followed the 255/255E route to Merry Hill.
While the 254 operated to Wolverhampton, the 255 followed the same route as the 256 through Wombourne via Billy Buns Lane and Common Road.
The 254 was cut back to Wall Heath in July 2010 operating from Wall Heath Church via the A449 and Swindon Road to Blaze Park. The 259 was withdrawn the same day when services along the Penn Road and from Kingswinford to Stourbridge were reduced from every 10 minutes to every 15 minutes. It was then rerouted to the current route and renumbered 255E about a year later. The 255 was rerouted via Planks Lane when the 254 was cut back but operated via Giggetty Lane and Common Road originally. It was rerouted back along Brickbridge Lane after complaints from Sainsburys.
In terms of changes to the NXWM Kingswinford routes, I'm sure that they are reviewed regularly but can see no reason to reroute the 255E via Russells Hall as that link is covered by the 226. The only way you would see your 258 would be if there was a need to increase Penn Road services to every 10 minutes, but would current passenger levels support a 10 minute service all the way to Kingswinford?.
Any idea why I would have seen a 529 Platinum going down the Black Country Route in Wednesbury around 745 this morning?
I'm guessing it went to WB garage for some reason?
Saying that a 529 branded mmc was on the 854 cheslyn hay school
4559's front display has been fixed so it now displays correctly.
Quote from: Dom on March 22, 2017, 12:14:23 PM
4559's front display has been fixed so it now displays correctly.
4552 & 812 have as well (any more?)
Quote from: Tony on March 22, 2017, 01:10:03 PM
4552 & 812 have as well (any more?)
4315 & 4558 are the only ones left to sort as far as i'm aware, Tony.
Quote from: Nathan on March 22, 2017, 02:37:29 PM
:'(
4315 & 4558 are the only ones left to sort as far as i'm aware, Tony.
Both reported
Quote from: Nathan on March 22, 2017, 02:37:29 PM
4315 & 4558 are the only ones left to sort as far as i'm aware, Tony.
You should get paid for telling them.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 22, 2017, 03:47:57 PM
You should get paid for telling them.
I do, It's called my salary
Quote from: Tony on March 22, 2017, 03:52:37 PM
I do, It's called my salary
I was on about Nathan never mind.
Quote from: Tony on March 22, 2017, 02:48:07 PM
Both reported
I know it is not Wolverhampton, but has 4144 been done? As it was the same as those Wolverhampton buses when it was at Central
Quote from: John on March 22, 2017, 07:44:50 PM
I know it is not Wolverhampton, but has 4144 been done? As it was the same as those Wolverhampton buses when it was at Central
Was just about to say that.
I see 4319 has been done. I know 2059 needed doing, but not sure if it has been done as ive not seen it yet
4580 running no display at all on the 79
@Michael Bevan The 3 and the 4 do not interwork during the day. Only if it's on a late night board.
WN4535 & WA4737 have been on private hire duties today involved in the Wednesfield to Willenhall Vaisakhi Parade.
Trident on the 126 oh the memories
Quote from: Tony on April 16, 2017, 11:34:39 AM
The 2 is fully hybrid as well
@Tony Hybrids are the booked type on there on a Sunday. Have been for a over a year or so.
59's are supposed to be hybrid booked and Platinums on the 255/6. It appears to have swapped today.
4535 was part of the Vaisakhi celebration earlier today it appears.
http://www.itv.com/news/central/2017-04-16/crowds-line-the-streets-to-celebrate-vaisakhi/
@Nathan 5405 on 255 again today
@Chris In relation to your post in the noteworhy workings thread, Tridents do still make their way onto the 255/6 on Sundays if there are not enough E400's avaliable at the time. There was one on there on Easter Monday (Sunday service) too.
Quote from: Nathan on April 23, 2017, 05:41:41 PM
@Chris In relation to your post in the noteworhy workings thread, Tridents do still make their way onto the 255/6 on Sundays if there are not enough E400's avaliable at the time. There was one on there on Easter Monday (Sunday service) too.
Cheers
@Nathan didn't realised. Tridents are better ;)
4146 is back at WN on the 82 today. There is no mention anywhere of it transferring so i assume its a loan?
4152 has lost the old rear brake/indicator lights. Got the standard lights.
Are the 54 and 154 still subsidised
How are the 54 and 154 doing ? Especially since arriva has given up on the 76
Seen quite a few passengers on the 154 on a Saturday
Driver of 863 on the 81 tonight (For the 5th time) questioned my pass, having previously accusing me of it being fake. Even though every time it has been real and in date.
Quote from: Mercedes1665 on May 17, 2017, 12:37:33 AM
I wouldn't be suprised if your pass was fake. Drivers don't question passes without good reason.
@Mercedes1665 No. My pass is real and in date. No need for your stupid comments especially after the PM's you have sent me the last two days.
Quote from: Dom on May 16, 2017, 11:30:08 PM
Driver of 863 on the 81 tonight (For the 5th time) questioned my pass, having previously accusing me of it being fake. Even though every time it has been real and in date.
@Mercedes1665 No. My pass is real and in date. No need for your stupid comments especially after the PM's you have sent me the last two days.
And there's no crime in that. Drivers are entitled to ask if they think that your bus pass doesn't look like the other 1000 they see a day
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 17, 2017, 07:48:10 AM
And there's no crime in that. Drivers are entitled to ask if they think that your bus pass doesn't look like the other 1000 they see a day
So accusing me that my pass is fake when it is real is fine?
@Dom I would put a complaint in if your pass is in date and the drivers accusing u it's fake
Can we give it a rest & get back on topic! Winston
As 2022 (3/4 branded) is getting the crimson treatment does that mean all wolvo branded b7rles are going crimson before the unbranded ones
Quote from: Chris on May 17, 2017, 12:58:34 PM
As 2022 (3/4 branded) is getting the crimson treatment does that mean all wolvo branded b7rles are going crimson before the unbranded ones
I believe the plan was to Crimson the unbranded ones first. Hopefully when they're all done they put some nicer branding on.
P. S how about a Crimson hybrid this year? not in green though as you'd just attract too many vegetables.
4319 was operating out of service past the Court House on the A4101 Dudley Road from Kingswinford towards Pensnett and Dudley at about 13:30 this afternoon. It was either running to Dudley to re-enter service on the 257 or was operating to Pensnett Garage, as it wasn't one of the buses in service on the 255 today.
849 now has a rear end ad.
Bc5504-spotted in wn garage (via Facebook)any one know why it's there for
Quote from: Jack6101 on May 31, 2017, 08:58:56 PM
Bc5504-spotted in wn garage (via Facebook)any one know why it's there for
MOT perhaps??
Quote from: Jack6101 on May 31, 2017, 08:58:56 PM
Bc5504-spotted in wn garage (via Facebook)any one know why it's there for
Getting the back LED display fixed?
Probably related to 4163 being dropped off at WN yesterday.
Quote from: Nathan on June 01, 2017, 08:31:08 AM
Probably related to 4163 being dropped off at WN yesterday.
Back on 22/23 today so probably right. And no, the rear number LED display isn't fixed.
What's going on with 4546. Is it on diversion on the 82? It's just ran up Ivyhouse Lane and turned left on to the Birmingham New Road, so it's not on the 81. Any idea
@Tony ?
I assume changes to 529 are because of the work at J10?
Quote from: Mike K on June 02, 2017, 11:59:34 AM
Back on 22/23 today so probably right. And no, the rear number LED display isn't fixed.
I don't know what it went to have done but it still makes an awful sound.
Has 2022 came out in all its crimson
Any news on wn Tridents getting crimson, saw 4537 today and it has nxwm on the side in gold decals?
Quote from: Chris on June 12, 2017, 04:50:27 PM
Has 2022 came out in all its crimson
no its at wb for mot pic on Facebook
Quote from: Trident4590 on June 14, 2017, 10:17:11 AM
Any news on wn Tridents getting crimson, saw 4537 today and it has nxwm on the side in gold decals?
They're not getting it.
Quote from: markcf83 on June 14, 2017, 11:48:01 AM
They're not getting it.
So are an 45** tridents going to be withdrawn early? What a waste
Quote from: Trident4590 on June 14, 2017, 12:09:07 PM
So are an 45** tridents going to be withdrawn early? What a waste
Who said anything about being withdrawn early?
Quote from: Tony on June 14, 2017, 12:25:06 PM
Who said anything about being withdrawn early?
I just thought they would've been withdrawn earlier than the crimson ones
Quote from: Trident4590 on June 14, 2017, 12:09:07 PM
So are an 45** tridents going to be withdrawn early? What a waste
The BC and YW Tridents only got Crimsoned so they were compliant for Birmingham City Centre's new Emission Rules.
Quote from: Solo1 on June 14, 2017, 11:38:44 AM
no its at wb for mot pic on Facebook
Will be out tomorrow.
2022 on 25
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155434136764530&set=gm.1906001362991274&type=3
4184 looks like the next Y reg to Be withdrawn
Usually allowed to look at Pictures on Facebook without an account but for some reason this one requires me to log in or Register can some one PM or describe it please
This fire was a result of a catastrophic engine seizure, while on the high speed A5 Amazon run, throwing at least 2 con rods and creating a fire with the sparks igniting hot oil.
Oh is it written off then
Quote from: BusFan94 on June 17, 2017, 06:44:01 PM
Oh is it written off then
Quote from Tony in Vehicle Transfers thread:
Quote from: Tony on June 17, 2017, 06:45:58 PM
4169 reserve - reinstated to Wolverhampton
4184 withdrawn
6790 currently being hoisted up on a recovery vehicle; seen at Moor Street (Selfridges)
http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/154-service-changes-from-monday-26th-june-2017
There was a 5/5a branded bus near water orton (the x70 route)parked up in the lay by at around 4:20 ish
Quote from: Jack6101 on June 22, 2017, 07:59:25 PM
There was a 5/5a branded bus near water orton (the x70 route)parked up in the lay by at around 4:20 ish
2122 at Graysons for e-fan conversion.
Quote from: BN on June 22, 2017, 08:35:39 PM
2122 at Graysons for e-fan conversion.
wondered where that had got to. will they all be done or is this a trial?
@ade A stumpy has got on the 81 a couple of times in the past.
4136 is/was at Walsall Garage today. Don't know why though.
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 13, 2017, 03:17:56 PM
4136 is/was at Walsall Garage today. Don't know why though.
Been left for a quicky repaint
Quote from: Tony on July 13, 2017, 03:19:17 PM
Been left for a quicky repaint
Ooh, okay, thanks for the information. Glad to hear 4136 is having a quick repaint.
6795 in Dudley today for the festival.
Advert for NXWM in Cannock Chronicle today the "getting about is better by bus" one. Thought it was a bit weird when they barely run anything in bloody Cannock lol! Just the 154 and 5 trips a day 3 outbound 2 inbound on the X51!
Quote from: Bob on July 19, 2017, 04:09:59 PM
Advert for NXWM in Cannock Chronicle today the "getting about is better by bus" one. Thought it was a bit weird when they barely run anything in bloody Cannock lol! Just the 154 and 5 trips a day 3 outbound 2 inbound on the X51!
Have u pointed that out on Facebook or Twitter yet?
No lol
2025-26 now at Walsall for refurb.
2028 back from refurb, replaced by 2064. 2028 should be out tomorrow.
Are they not going to continue doing 2001-2018? Or does this mean PN will have a chance of a crimson B7 before the year is out?
Quote from: Chris on July 26, 2017, 08:25:41 PM
Are they not going to continue doing 2001-2018? Or does this mean PN will have a chance of a crimson B7 before the year is out?
There wasn't any plan to do those, its 2022-29,59-70. The only reason 2019 was done was because of an RTA.
Quote from: BN on July 26, 2017, 08:47:29 PM
There wasn't any plan to do those, its 2022-29,59-70. The only reason 2019 was done was because of an RTA.
Forgive me for saying so, but that seems a little odd - though some have recent route branding. You would have thought they would be dealt with at some time fairly soon - the front ends look pretty faded.
Are the seats/interiors of the crimson ones being re-done?
if that's the case not to do the branded ones, how come the 2 perton ones are included in the crimson to do list?
Was there a 126 branded vehicle on any of the Wolves garage routes into Walsall this morning?
I saw 6782(?) around 1130am this morning on High Street Bloxwich by the Health Centre, unless said vehicle had to go to Walsall garage for some reason.
4136 out on the 27 today after a quick makeover
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4136.html
Quote from: Tony on July 29, 2017, 05:52:29 PM
4136 out on the 27 today after a quick makeover
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4136.html
Has it been retrimmed if so I am really sad as it was my favourite bus for that reason along with 4133, 4546, 4550,4551, 4588 and 4592
Quote from: BusFan94 on July 29, 2017, 06:28:20 PM
Has it been retrimmed if so I am really sad as it was my favourite bus for that reason along with 4133, 4546, 4550,4551, 4588 and 4592
None of the red/white ones are being re-trimmed/refurb'd, as confirmed a number of times - hence why quoted as 'quickie makeover' - repaint only!
Quote from: Tony on July 29, 2017, 05:52:29 PM
4136 out on the 27 today after a quick makeover
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4136.html
Was nice to see 4136 today! It was weird but nice to see her in fresh paint livery, I'm used seeing her looking tired with connection bars.
Quote from: BusFan94 on July 29, 2017, 06:28:20 PM
Has it been retrimmed if so I am really sad as it was my favourite bus for that reason along with 4133, 4546, 4550,4551, 4588 and 4592
4136 has kept the original seat moquette. 4136 has been one of my favourites for years; I have a soft spot for her.
@Sh4318, good news - 4136's rear desti is functional now!
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 29, 2017, 06:39:51 PM
Was nice to see 4136 today! It was weird but nice to see her in fresh paint livery, I'm used seeing her looking tired with connection bars.
4136 has kept the original seat moquette. 4136 has been one of my favourites for years; I have a soft spot for her. @Sh4318, good news - 4136's rear desti is functional now!
Yes it's been mine for ages also 4134 and 4544 and my favourites
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 29, 2017, 06:39:51 PM
Was nice to see 4136 today! It was weird but nice to see her in fresh paint livery, I'm used seeing her looking tired with connection bars.
4136 has kept the original seat moquette. 4136 has been one of my favourites for years; I have a soft spot for her. @Sh4318, good news - 4136's rear desti is functional now!
Hmm.. I wonder if it'll be out tomorrow. Always had a soft spot for 4136
Always liked 4136. Was the oddball on the 51 as it was the only red/white Trident that had the Green Frequency Branding.
Honestly think the 255 and 256 interworking on Sunday needs to go back to standalone workings as 255 are getting later and later which is having a knock affect on the rest of the day, 255 left merry hill at 1538 and the next one is due 1623
Quote from: Chris on July 30, 2017, 04:18:41 PM
Honestly think the 255 and 256 interworking on Sunday needs to go back to standalone workings as 255 are getting later and later which is having a knock affect on the rest of the day, 255 left merry hill at 1538 and the next one is due 1623
Major junction on Penn road closed today, I ended up in warstones driving from Wolverhampton to Pensnett this morning
Quote from: Tony on July 29, 2017, 05:52:29 PM
4136 out on the 27 today after a quick makeover
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4136.html
4541 next in for repaint
I've just delivered reserve fleet 4201 to Wolverhampton for them to use for the next two weeks if they need to
Quote from: Tony on August 14, 2017, 04:12:51 PM
I've just delivered reserve fleet 4201 to Wolverhampton for them to use for the next two weeks if they need to
And the man from Park Lane, he say No!
Quote from: Tony on August 14, 2017, 07:33:01 PM
And the man from Park Lane, he say No!
I'd have thought they'd let you know beforehand if they need an extra vehicle or not. Surely that should be communicated beforehand?
Quote from: DJ98 on August 14, 2017, 07:55:24 PM
I'd have thought they'd let you know beforehand if they need an extra vehicle or not. Surely that should be communicated beforehand?
Err they did, that's why I took them 4201
Quote from: Tony on August 14, 2017, 08:38:35 PM
Err they did, that's why I took them 4201
So they said they wanted it, then they said no once you got there? Or am I misunderstanding you?
it may need too much to put it back in use straight away upon inspection
Quote from: DJ98 on August 14, 2017, 09:41:59 PM
So they said they wanted it, then they said no once you got there? Or am I misunderstanding you?
They asked for a bus, this one was taken there, but when I got it to the garage it was not in the best of health and will not be entering service
Quote from: Tony on August 14, 2017, 10:04:38 PM
They asked for a bus, this one was taken there, but when I got it to the garage it was not in the best of health and will not be entering service
Boss, did you kill it en route?
Quote from: Tony on August 14, 2017, 10:04:38 PM
They asked for a bus, this one was taken there, but when I got it to the garage it was not in the best of health and will not be entering service
Not surprised. 4201 was a shed at BC. Slow as a slug on the 900.
4188 rescued out of Miller Street and now at Wolverhampton for them to use
Why has 25 service got a decker on it when it run by the new liveried b7RLE's
Quote from: Solo1 on August 26, 2017, 06:48:25 AM
Why has 25 service got a decker on it when it run by the new liveried b7RLE's
Maybe because they allocated a decker to it?
why has 4319 lost orange led
@trident 01 - Please read the rules before starting new topics, a 'Wolverhampton Garage' thread already exists & has done for years!
Quote from: Tony on August 15, 2017, 11:14:34 AM
4188 rescued out of Miller Street and now at Wolverhampton for them to use
Been told by an engineer that 4188 is dead.
What are the Crimson Eclipse 2s used on on a Sunday as the 25 doesn't run ? Thanks
Quote from: P419 EJW on August 26, 2017, 11:35:36 AM
Been told by an engineer that 4188 is dead.
It is back in reserve now the V Festival and Rail replacement have finished, but it may be back again yet.
reserve fleet 4188 back at Wolverhampton covering e-fan fitting
Quote from: Tony on September 05, 2017, 07:40:42 PM
reserve fleet 4188 back at Wolverhampton covering e-fan fitting
First day out on the 1 route
PD0001111/17 Expired (Short notice)
WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD
Route: Wolverhampton to Ashmore Park (circular) to Wolverhampton to Ashmore Park (circular) via New Cross Hospital and Wednesfield
Service number: 59 (59)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 07 Jul 2017
Does this actually mean anything?
Timesaver Metrobus is currently at Wolverhampton, who are working on getting it fit for service again. If they don't find anything drastically wrong while repairing it then it may be rejoining the NXWM fleet as a 'Vintage' bus the same as 3225 available for Private Hire. It has had a full two day inspection and needs a fair bit of work, but NX are OK with the cost of repairs so far found. 9959's MoT expired last Saturday and it has engine problems, so is now withdrawn and will be used for spares to repair 2957
Did 2026 get crimsoned like the rest of the b7s because I remember someone saying on the forum that 2026 is going to be different
Quote from: Chris on September 12, 2017, 11:25:53 PM
Did 2026 get crimsoned like the rest of the b7s because I remember someone saying on the forum that 2026 is going to be different
Yes it is in Crimson.
Quote from: BN on September 13, 2017, 06:18:39 PM
Yes it is in Crimson.
Watch out for some interesting photos of 2026 on the main site in a couple of weeks time though.
Reserve 4160 moving to WN tonight
Quote from: Tony on September 13, 2017, 06:25:01 PM
Watch out for some interesting photos of 2026 on the main site in a couple of weeks time though.
Reserve 4160 moving to WN tonight
4132 as well according to a post from a WN engineer on social media.
Quote from: Nathan on September 13, 2017, 06:27:11 PM
4132 as well according to a post from a WN engineer on social media.
YW have prepared 4160 for tonight not 4132.
4162 will move as well
Quote from: Tony on September 13, 2017, 06:25:01 PM
Watch out for some interesting photos of 2026 on the main site in a couple of weeks time though.
Reserve 4160 moving to WN tonight
Guessing 2026 trialled a new Coventry livery hence the 13 plates going in?
Quote from: Tony on September 13, 2017, 06:30:00 PM
YW have prepared 4160 for tonight not 4132.
4162 will move as well
Will YW be getting any more 41xx ? And is 4132 heading to another depot soon ?
Wolverhampton garage have achieved a remarkable engineering feat today.
All 17 43xx Tridents, and all 45 45xx Tridents have gone out in service.
To achieve 100% availablity out of 62 13-15 year old buses shows the quality of the engineering staff there.
Quote from: Tony on September 18, 2017, 10:58:59 AM
Wolverhampton garage have achieved a remarkable engineering feat today.
All 17 43xx Tridents, and all 45 45xx Tridents have gone out in service.
To achieve 100% availablity out of 62 13-15 year old buses shows the quality of the engineering staff there.
Can we have some of the engineers at Pensnett
@karl724223
4132 now at Wolverhampton, reinstated from reserve
With the 255 sunday daytime journies being withdrawn, how is the likelihood of wmca or another operator stepping in
Quote from: Chris on September 20, 2017, 09:35:42 PM
With the 255 sunday daytime journies being withdrawn, how is the likelihood of wmca or another operator stepping in
TfWM are involved and the route will be put out to tender, most likely as a revised route numbered 255A to enable it to operate hourly with two buses.
Wolverhampton wanted another stumpy for the 62 so they didn’t need to put LWB E200s on it.
Today, 753 is on the 11 all day with 752 on the 27, leaving 811 on the 62.
Quote from: Dom on September 22, 2017, 12:41:18 PM
Wolverhampton wanted another stumpy for the 62 so they didn't need to put LWB E200s on it.
Today, 753 is on the 11 all day with either 751/2 on the 27, leaving 811 on the 62.
751 is on the 62
62/a uses 2 buses. maybe the stumpies were not available first thing, or one may have had an issue. the "3rd" is often seen on 27/a but if it is out in service, and a 62 went down, then they will change it to a 8xx one. when the solos were on 62/a an optare excel used to deputise if a solo was unavailable
Been informed by someone that his friend saw 4162 on 59 earlier today. Saw 4163 on 59 around 20:10 in the bus station. Just wondered if 4162 has transferred to Wolverhampton or he was mistaken 4162 with 4163?
Quote from: P419 EJW on September 28, 2017, 09:24:29 PM
Been informed by someone that his friend saw 4162 on 59 earlier today. Saw 4163 on 59 around 20:10 in the bus station. Just wondered if 4162 has transferred to Wolverhampton or he was mistaken 4162 with 4163?
4162 is now at WN
Quote from: Tony on September 28, 2017, 10:12:15 PM
4162 is now at WN
Thanks. :) Did 4162 do any 59's today?
Quote from: P419 EJW on September 28, 2017, 10:13:09 PM
Thanks. :) Did 4162 do any 59's today?
Not tracking yet, so cannot check - sorry
Quote from: Tony on September 28, 2017, 10:14:13 PM
Not tracking yet, so cannot check - sorry
No worries, thank you anyway.
4162 is on the 4, if not swapped later then it should be out until 19:39 at garage.
Quote from: Westy on October 06, 2017, 07:30:50 AM
6794 on the 79 just spotted at Wednesbury.
First time for a Plattie on the 79?
I'm sure there's been at least one on there before. Saw a photo of it somewhere of one leaving West Brom on the 79
@Westy
Quote from: CL on October 06, 2017, 07:58:56 AM
I'm sure there's been at least one on there before. Saw a photo of it somewhere of one leaving West Brom on the 79 @Westy
6761/6792 have both being on 79
https://flic.kr/p/UVCFdp
6782 has just passed through Roseville (Green Street) not in service full of drivers.
Quote from: Dom on October 07, 2017, 09:01:28 AM
6782 has just passed through Roseville (Green Street) not in service full of drivers.
Route learning assessment.
2020 now out in service, in crimson.
I hope wn get all the b7s crimsoned. they look as good as new and it has been a shame they looked so tatty quickly with the faded red and grubby white
There was a crimson b7rle on 255 last night around 5 at merry hill
@ade in regards to your noteworthy workings post, there are no 43** Tridents branded for the 59. 4555-4564 are the Tridents that are branded. 4562 was on the 257 yesterday.
What's this I hear about Wolves hybrids being converted? Mindless speculation or actually happening?
Quote from: Kevin on October 24, 2017, 07:42:47 AM
What's this I hear about Wolves hybrids being converted? Mindless speculation or actually happening?
Wouldn't think so if we are about to get more in this year's new buses
Quote from: John on October 24, 2017, 08:48:28 AM
Wouldn't think so if we are about to get more in this year's new buses
It's HAPPENING
Quote from: Kevin on October 24, 2017, 07:42:47 AM
What's this I hear about Wolves hybrids being converted? Mindless speculation or actually happening?
Converted to what? Conventional diesel?
Quote from: Mike K on October 24, 2017, 11:38:01 AM
Converted to what? Conventional diesel?
Apparently
Would have thought something like that would be more widely reported but hey ho
East Yorkshire and Reading have both converted buses back to straight diesel, I think they said it was because once the batteries were out of warranty they were no longer viable.
854 sounded a bit ruff last night on the 154 back home
sounded normal to me today
2 126 branded buses off route today.
6774 on WN 529
6779 on WN 79.
Quote from: TT90 on October 29, 2017, 05:14:10 PM
2 126 branded buses off route today.
6774 on WN 529
6779 on WN 79.
6789 on the 69 and 6786 on the 256 as well
Quote from: Nathan on October 29, 2017, 06:04:20 PM
6789 on the 69 and 6786 on the 256 as well
Due to the better mpg on these vehicles all Platinums will be used on a Sunday, so they will appear anywhere going forward. The same goes for the Hybrids when they are all working.
@Tony - Expect a complaint into Travelcare from a punter wanting to catch a 529 from Bentley Road North in Walsall, where the driver saw him crossing the road, & the guy got to the bus doors & the driver drove off.
I was with the guy & he was not happy at all.
If I was bothered, I would have complained as well, but seeing a response to a simliar Facebook complaint recently, what is the point, plus the next one was 6 mins away!
Quote from: Westy on November 01, 2017, 04:28:41 PM
@Tony - Expect a complaint into Travelcare from a punter wanting to catch a 529 from Bentley Road North in Walsall, where the driver saw him crossing the road, & the guy got to the bus doors & the driver drove off.
I was with the guy & he was not happy at all.
If I was bothered, I would have complained as well, but seeing a response to a simliar Facebook complaint recently, what is the point, plus the next one was 6 mins away!
If the driver had already closed the doors, then you'd missed the bus.
I don't really see why you are complaining when it's so frequent, if it was a 2 hour wait on a country lane, then maybe I'd understand.
What do you think complaining on here is going to do anyway?
I can see why the driver may not want to reopen the doors, for example, at a busier stop you may have someone knocking on the doors, the driver then reopened the doors and then closes the doors and then someone else comes along, they could be there for ages, which'd then annoy all the other passengers already on the bus.
Quote from: 2206 on November 01, 2017, 06:48:25 PM
If the driver had already closed the doors, then you'd missed the bus.
I don't really see why you are complaining when it's so frequent, if it was a 2 hour wait on a country lane, then maybe I'd understand.
What do you think complaining on here is going to do anyway?
Most of the time that happens the driver reopens the door. The person would of missed the bus if it started to pull away when they got to the stop. Eventhough I find it hilarious. It's people's own fault if they miss the bus, if they left their previous location a few minutes earlier then they would of caught it and not make a fuss.
Quote from: Jack on November 01, 2017, 06:54:34 PM
Most of the time that happens the driver reopens the door. The person would of missed the bus if it started to pull away when they got to the stop. Eventhough I find it hilarious. It's people's own fault if they miss the bus, if they left their previous location a few minutes earlier then they would of caught it and not make a fuss.
If you find that hilarious you really need to get out more. When you're older, have a job, kids and all other sorts of responsibilities, you'll appreciate that like buses, it's often very difficult for people to run on time too.
If you read the comment again, you will notice that I didnt make the complaint, someone else did or was going to!
I was merely giving Tony the heads up.
I've noticed it doesnt seem to be worth complaining to Nx, certainly by social media, as the standard answer is 'Send us an email'
Why, when we've given you the same information already, we have to send it again?
Get your facts straight before having a pop!
Quote from: Mike K on November 01, 2017, 07:02:23 PM
If you find that hilarious you really need to get out more. When you're older, have a job, kids and all other sorts of responsibilities, you'll appreciate that like buses, it's often very difficult for people to run on time too.
It certainly isn't funny at all. Especially if you have got a long wait if there have been a couple of buses running in convoy you could be there for a while. It definitely isn't funny however some drivers have careless attitude and don't care if they shut the doors in your face
Quote from: Mike K on November 01, 2017, 07:02:23 PM
If you find that hilarious you really need to get out more. When you're older, have a job, kids and all other sorts of responsibilities, you'll appreciate that like buses, it's often very difficult for people to run on time too.
No lol. I just find it funny when people just get to the stop and the driver pulls away. But personally I know it sometimes hard for people to run on time, but I do think that drivers shouldn't be blamed, they have to be on time, not wait for someone to run for the bus.
Btw I'm just joking, it's happened to me as well, but I don't moan about it.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 01, 2017, 07:06:38 PM
It certainly isn't funny at all. Especially if you have got a long wait if there have been a couple of buses running in convoy you could be there for a while. It definitely isn't funny however some drivers have careless attitude and don't care if they shut the doors in your face
Drivers can't always wait for people running for the bus. If they are early, then yeah they should wait, but when they are running 5 minutes late, they shouldn't have to wait.
Quote from: Westy on November 01, 2017, 07:03:53 PM
I've noticed it doesnt seem to be worth complaining to Nx, certainly by social media, as the standard answer is 'Send us an email'
Why, when we've given you the same information already, we have to send it again?
By sending in an email, or completing the contact form on the website, it will open a 'ticket' in their CRM (Customer Relationship Management) software, which can then be investigated and acted on. By logging complaints this way, they can be monitored, and regular patterns analysed. This can't be done through social media, which is why the 'standard response' is to ask for an email to be sent or contact form to be completed.
Flying through the new ticket machines, 40 down. So far so good!!
Anybody interested 5403 is now back on the road after a 3 month rest. 5402 will be back on the road by Monday.
Quote from: BN on November 02, 2017, 07:52:06 PM
Anybody interested 5403 is now back on the road after a 3 month rest. 5402 will be back on the road by Monday.
Guessing that's gonna make seeing a Trident on the WN1 a bit rarer then? Seems like I see one most days on there.
Quote from: DJ98 on November 02, 2017, 08:23:49 PM
Guessing that's gonna make seeing a Trident on the WN1 a bit rarer then? Seems like I see one most days on there.
That's because there has been, if not several.
Quote from: Dom on November 02, 2017, 08:58:29 PM
That's because there has been, if not several.
Yes, I guessed, but I haven't been up Wolverhampton every single day so I'm not sure if I was just getting lucky with seeing them or not.
4160 out on the 79 today. First day out for ages with its replacement engine
@WB Driver Was 2029 on a 79 or a 79E? Would be interesting to see a WN B7RLE in West Bromwich.
Quote from: DJ98 on November 05, 2017, 09:50:07 PM
@WB Driver Was 2029 on a 79 or a 79E? Would be interesting to see a WN B7RLE in West Bromwich.
Was on 79 left WB around 16:20 when I saw it.
5401 on the 126; I know it's the only other possible allocation, but worth noting as I haven't seen one in a while.
edit: whoops, my bad
Quote from: CL on November 06, 2017, 12:15:55 PM
5401 on the 126; I know it's the only other possible allocation, but worth noting as I haven't seen one in a while.
The only other allocation? Everything at WN can be allocated to 126 bar Tridents, even 4586 can be.
Quote from: BN on November 06, 2017, 04:43:14 PM
The only other allocation? Everything at WN can be allocated to 126 bar Tridents, even 4586 can be.
And occasionally, in an emergency, even any trident can, the AQPS allows for occasional use of non-compliant vehicles
Quote from: CL on November 06, 2017, 12:15:55 PM
5401 on the 126; I know it's the only other possible allocation, but worth noting as I haven't seen one in a while.
edit: whoops, my bad
Was still on the 126 leaving Dudley when I got there about 40 minutes ago, not sure which direction it was heading though as I could only see the rear.
Short E200 on the 154 today
4142 now gone to its new home.
Quote from: BN on November 09, 2017, 08:39:24 AM
4142 now gone to its new home.
And out in service already
Quote from: Tony on November 09, 2017, 06:18:12 PM
You didn't want it! :-)
It will do them proud. There all good at WN.
Quote from: BN on November 09, 2017, 06:23:36 PM
There all good at WN.
Have you forgotten about 4138? When WA had it, it was the worst 41** they had! A slow and sluggish bus that couldn't get up Walsall Road. It let down 4125-4139 at WA. When I rode it at WN on the 69 it was the exact same. Glad to here that shed is no longer on the road.
The branding on 6777 has been amended to say 'stops along the Hagley road and broad street'
Currently on 6101 after 6774 "failing" (for lack of a better word) at Brindleyplace. I'd like to know what actually happened to it, if possible. Thanks.
I just read a post on Facebook that apparently 4143 will go to Coventry.
Quote from: P419 EJW on November 11, 2017, 01:27:57 PM
I just read a post on Facebook that apparently 4143 will go to Coventry.
I wondered how long till the guessing game would start. No plans as of yet.
Engineering Managers will be getting an email off me on Monday with all the planned moves for the next six weeks and that's not on there. Some people do like pretending to do my job
Quote from: Tony on November 11, 2017, 02:37:28 PM
Engineering Managers will be getting an email off me on Monday with all the planned moves for the next six weeks and that's not on there. Some people do like pretending to do my job
Cool, thanks,
@Tony. :)
Ran for a 126 on Castle Hill towards Birmingham today around 1PM, driver had plenty of time to stop and I was running to the stop with my arm out, but instead of stopping for me, he just drove straight past while flipping me off. Not really what you'd expect from a 'professional driver'. :/
If you were not at the stop then the he does not have to stop and by "flipping you off" do you mean he swore at you or ignored you?
Quote from: DJ98 on November 11, 2017, 05:34:05 PM
Ran for a 126 on Castle Hill towards Birmingham today around 1PM, driver had plenty of time to stop and I was running to the stop with my arm out, but instead of stopping for me, he just drove straight past while flipping me off. Not really what you'd expect from a 'professional driver'. :/
Well that's your own fault for not being at the stop ready in time, not the drivers. I don't expect the driver to wait for me to run half way down the road because I'm not at the stop in time for the bus and I don't see anyone else expect it either, because if your not at the stop the bus doesn't wait for you. Waiting for you could make the bus late, or even later. It's a frequent route, get the next, if it's that much of an inconvenience get to the stop earlier.
Quote from: DJ98 on November 11, 2017, 05:34:05 PM
Ran for a 126 on Castle Hill towards Birmingham today around 1PM, driver had plenty of time to stop and I was running to the stop with my arm out, but instead of stopping for me, he just drove straight past while flipping me off. Not really what you'd expect from a 'professional driver'. :/
Maybe because you was not standing at the stop itself? At the same time the driver could of though you were trying to pull over another bus. Also the 126 is frequent so just wait for the next, even if you was on Castle Hill you could of just got whatever came next.
The driver shouldn't have to wait for people who are running. Just holds up the bus.
Quote from: Jack on November 11, 2017, 05:56:53 PM
Maybe because you was not standing at the stop itself? At the same time the driver could of though you were trying to pull over another bus. Also the 126 is frequent so just wait for the next, even if you was on Castle Hill you could of just got whatever came next.
The driver shouldn't have to wait for people who are running. Just holds up the bus.
I was at the stop by the time the bus would've been there anyway, it wouldn't have held up the bus at all. It was the only bus coming down Castle Hill too, so there wasn't any way he'd have thought I wanted something else. I get that the 126 is pretty frequent, but at the same time, you do get the odd few which are more than 10 mins apart.
Quote from: DJ98 on November 11, 2017, 06:27:13 PM
I was at the stop by the time the bus would've been there anyway, it wouldn't have held up the bus at all. It was the only bus coming down Castle Hill too, so there wasn't any way he'd have thought I wanted something else. I get that the 126 is pretty frequent, but at the same time, you do get the odd few which are more than 10 mins apart.
Unless he was concentrating on the road?
Quote from: Jack on November 11, 2017, 06:33:32 PM
Unless he was concentrating on the road?
If he managed to look straight at me and flip me off, then I doubt that.
Quote from: DJ98 on November 11, 2017, 09:45:54 PM
If he managed to look straight at me and flip me off, then I doubt that.
I'm intrigued by what to 'flip off' means. For someone who is in the 40s, please could somebody enlighten me?
Quote from: Mike K on November 11, 2017, 10:07:03 PM
I'm intrigued by what to 'flip off' means. For someone who is in the 40s, please could somebody enlighten me?
I believe it's the middle finger.
Quote from: DJ98 on November 11, 2017, 05:34:05 PM
Ran for a 126 on Castle Hill towards Birmingham today around 1PM, driver had plenty of time to stop and I was running to the stop with my arm out, but instead of stopping for me, he just drove straight past while flipping me off. Not really what you'd expect from a 'professional driver'. :/
I would recommend using the official channels to make a complaint (website, email, telephone). Clogging up a forum to publicise potential bad behaviour will do nothing to remedy the issue, if there is indeed an issue.
Quote from: TinnedPeaches on November 12, 2017, 12:44:19 PM
I would recommend using the official channels to make a complaint (website, email, telephone). Clogging up a forum to publicise potential bad behaviour will do nothing to remedy the issue, if there is indeed an issue.
http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/contact-us/contact-national-express
Fill in the form located here.
To be honest thats what I told that bloke on the 529 to do.
yet another made up bit of hot air. get yourself to the bus stop on time then. would you want a driver to slam their brakes on as you put your hand out willy nilly? as the old saying goes, taxis wait for passengers, passengers wait for buses (at the bus stop!)
Quote from: mranon on November 12, 2017, 07:08:33 PM
yet another made up bit of hot air. get yourself to the bus stop on time then. would you want a driver to slam their brakes on as you put your hand out willy nilly? as the old saying goes, taxis wait for passengers, passengers wait for buses (at the bus stop!)
Agreed, drivers shouldn't have to wait for passengers running for the bus.
Either get to the bus stop ontime, or earlier.
Quote from: 2206 on November 12, 2017, 08:06:50 PM
Agreed, drivers shouldn't have to wait for passengers running for the bus.
Either get to the bus stop ontime, or earlier.
That's what I said but I got a whole mouthful from someone. People should leave their previous location earlier and won't make a fuss if they miss a bus.
It depends on the circumstances, quite a few stop timetables only say something similar to "every few minutes" or "between every 5 & 8 minutes until xx:xx" and don't actually give you times to be there for.
Quote from: V89MOA on November 12, 2017, 08:18:35 PM
It depends on the circumstances, quite a few stop timetables only say something similar to "every few minutes" or "between every 5 & 8 minutes until xx:xx" and don't actually give you times to be there for.
The reason why the NX and NetNav app are in use.
Quote from: V89MOA on November 12, 2017, 08:18:35 PM
It depends on the circumstances, quite a few stop timetables only say something similar to "every few minutes" or "between every 5 & 8 minutes until xx:xx" and don't actually give you times to be there for.
Allow enough time to complete your yourney, so if you miss a bus , it doesn't really matter and you can get the next.
If you wanted to know what time the bus is scheduled at it can all be found on the timetables on Traveline West Midlands website.
Though on very frequent routes, like the 11, I doubt it'd matter what time they're actually scheduled at as they are so frequent and could in some cases be unlikely to stick to those times due to disruptions on the route. Perhaps why they just say something like every 5 to 8 minutes.
Quote from: Jack on November 12, 2017, 09:29:32 PM
The reason why the NX and NetNav app are in use.
The amount of times the NXWM app has said "No Departures from this stop" at peak times though for me, you can't always rely on them.
Quote from: V89MOA on November 12, 2017, 09:32:19 PM
The amount of times the NXWM app has said "No Departures from this stop" at peak times though for me, you can't always rely on them.
Which is why I prefer NetNav and have done for 4 years. NX app is too confusing.
Quote from: Jack on November 12, 2017, 09:34:34 PM
Which is why I prefer NetNav and have done for 4 years. NX app is too confusing.
Confusing? Really?! It possibly one of the easiet and user friendly apps out there!
Quote from: Gareth on November 12, 2017, 09:36:32 PM
Confusing? Really?! It possibly one of the easiet and user friendly apps out there!
The amount of times it says 'No Departures from this Stop' is just annoying. I'd rather just stand and wait or look at NetNav which shows the departures.
Quote from: Jack on November 12, 2017, 09:38:02 PM
The amount of times it says 'No Departures from this Stop' is just annoying. I'd rather just stand and wait or look at NetNav which shows the departures.
The NX app is easy to use and user intuitive, every time I leave home for work I check to see how the 11 is running and it hasn't let me down. Sure improvements could be made but I've never had a problem with it. It's ultimately your responsibility to be at the bus stop on time and before the bus gets there. I've missed buses by a minute in the past, it happens, but ultimately if your not at the stop when the bus is there, you won't get on the bus, that's why their there !
Quote from: DJ98 on November 11, 2017, 05:34:05 PM
Ran for a 126 on Castle Hill towards Birmingham today around 1PM, driver had plenty of time to stop and I was running to the stop with my arm out, but instead of stopping for me, he just drove straight past while flipping me off. Not really what you'd expect from a 'professional driver'. :/
When you complain to the company you will need details of the vehicle, just saying around 1pm won't. The closest bus to 1pm was 6776 on the 13:02 departure and that bus stopped at the Castle Hill stop
Look at the App before you set off on your journey to the bus stop and know how long it takes to reach the stop.
When I come out of my house people standing at the bus stop say we're glad to see you because the bus must be coming.
When I tell them they can have the App and ask them if they have seen the advert for it in the bus they look blankly at me...
There's a rumor on Facebook that NatEx could loose the 54 and 154
Quote from: BusMan Greg on December 07, 2017, 09:28:58 PM
There's a rumor on Facebook that NatEx could loose the 54 and 154
Could Arriva make a comeback, as their service reduced, due to the success of the Nx service?
Increase the 70's frequency to 30 mins and make the 76's Monday to Saturday again not just sunday
Quote from: Westy on December 07, 2017, 09:36:04 PM
Could Arriva make a comeback, as their service reduced, due to the success of the Nx service?
i54 funding likely to end, hardly a commercial service, can't see a replacement unless someone else has some dosh to put in.
Quote from: BusMan Greg on December 07, 2017, 09:39:50 PM
Increase the 70's frequency to 30 mins and make the 76's Monday to Saturday again not just sunday
Why? Hardly anyone other than passes travel through to Stafford.
Fair few peoole use the 154 whenever ive been on it
Make the 76's Mon to Fri?? Why? It's a waste of time
Yes I agree that looking at it now the 76's are a bit of a waste considering people in coven have got 877/878 and penkridge have also got the 75
If Nx come off the 54, its back to traveling via Cannock from Bloxwich to Stafford!
How come Walsall's Platties can announce the next stop as soon as they pass the last stop, but Wolves Platties, based on the 529, dont announce the stop until you are practically on top of it?
Not very helpful for blind passengers!
Quote from: Westy on December 13, 2017, 10:43:44 PM
How come Walsall's Platties can announce the next stop as soon as they pass the last stop, but Wolves Platties, based on the 529, dont announce the stop until you are practically on top of it?
Not very helpful for blind passengers!
PB's are like that. It would be good if they could make them like AG's and WA's as "The Next Stop Is..."
What will be happening with the extra Tridents from the 79E once that wraps up? I'm not sure how many are needed to run it but I'm guessing there must be at least a good half a dozen on there.
Quote from: DJ98 on December 13, 2017, 11:28:41 PM
What will be happening with the extra Tridents from the 79E once that wraps up? I'm not sure how many are needed to run it but I'm guessing there must be at least a good half a dozen on there.
I think it's 3.
I expect it'll just mean 3 or however many it is will be withdrawn.
Quote from: MW on December 14, 2017, 01:04:17 AM
I think it's 3.
I expect it'll just mean 3 or however many it is will be withdrawn.
6
Quote from: Dom on December 14, 2017, 08:27:04 AM
6
Half a dozen wasn't a bad guess then! ;)
I recall reading about Coventry running a bit low after a few losses due to accidents and what have you, maybe they could be sent down there rather than being withdrawn, or has that issue been solved now?
Coventry is getting some b7rles
don't forget Coventry had 4142 and pn 4147 without anything replacing them, and 4169/71 was announced to be withdrawn last night on a fb page. so in theory there is 4 41's that have gone
Quote from: Dom on December 14, 2017, 08:27:04 AM
6
It's the 79E between Wolverhampton & Bilston right. From what I can see on the timetable, the longest round trip isn't more than 40 mins. For the PVR to be 6, it implies that there is a 20 minute drop back in the peak. I'm not familiar with routes on that side of the network but that seems excessive. If it's a 40 minute round trip at most, that would suggest a PVR of 4, at a frequency of every 10 minutes. Am I missing something?
Quote from: MW on December 14, 2017, 04:31:10 PM
It's the 79E between Wolverhampton & Bilston right. From what I can see on the timetable, the longest round trip isn't more than 40 mins. For the PVR to be 6, it implies that there is a 20 minute drop back in the peak. I'm not familiar with routes on that side of the network but that seems excessive. If it's a 40 minute round trip at most, that would suggest a PVR of 4, at a frequency of every 10 minutes. Am I missing something?
Its 5.
5402 on the 126.
@Trident 4194 B7s on the 81 are not rare what so ever!!
Quote from: Dom on December 20, 2017, 01:24:56 PM
@Trident 4194 B7s on the 81 are not rare what so ever!!
Chill mate, I just remember you used to say " a B7RLE on a weekday service is noteworthy, as one on a Saturday is booked"
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 20, 2017, 02:09:41 PM
Chill mate, I just remember you used to say " a B7RLE on a weekday service is noteworthy, as one on a Saturday is booked"
A) perfectly chilled, it's jusr right outside today.
B) can't really say you're my 'mate'
C) Whilst yes I did say this, it was about 2 years ago yes.
2012 now back in Crimson.
6792 ticket machine was broken blue paper stuffed on the cash chute. Got attention when reaching Wolverhampton. The amount of times the bus driver had to repeat it doesn't work, I would be fuming
4555 now debranded.
@BN how come they are getting debranded?
Quote from: Chris on December 29, 2017, 06:37:54 PM
@BN how come they are getting debranded?
To get repainted would be my guess?
Quote from: Chris on December 29, 2017, 06:37:54 PM
@BN how come they are getting debranded?
They? 4555 has been debranded.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 29, 2017, 07:14:56 PM
To get repainted would be my guess?
Looks tidy enough to me.
Quote from: BN on December 29, 2017, 07:15:22 PM
They? 4555 has been debranded.
I meant it haha tbh some of wolvo trident 41** still look good years after they were repainted
Hybrid on 4
Crimson b7rle- 79
Don't know how common this is
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 30, 2017, 07:30:50 PM
Hybrid on 4
Crimson b7rle- 79
Don't know how common this is
Both are noteworthy workings.
From 4th February according to a notice on WN vehicles:
"Service 154 will no longer run from 4th February 2018 due to withdrawal of funding by the i54
The 54 will continue to run between Wolverhampton, i54 and Stafford but there will be changes to the timetable
Service 4 will continue to link Wolverhampton, Stafford Road and i54 directly up to every 15 minutes"
Information is now on the NX website.
http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/changes-to-the-54-154-from-sunday-4th-february-2018
So...... I just left my house (Stechford) to catch a 97 into Birmingham and I surprisingly clocked a crimson B7RLE and a 529 branded Platinum going outbound on Bordesley Green East.
Quite surprised to see them on this side of Birmingham but rail replacements ?
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on January 04, 2018, 12:33:11 PM
So...... I just left my house (Stechford) to catch a 97 into Birmingham and I surprisingly clocked a crimson B7RLE and a 529 branded Platinum going outbound on Bordesley Green East.
Quite surprised to see them on this side of Birmingham but rail replacements ?
There are no scheduled rail reps anywhere on the New Street - Stechford - Marston Green - Birmingham Internation - Coventry - Rugby - Milton Keynes - London Euston line today.
There are no scheduled rail replacements anywehere in the West Midlands today either.
There's a company near the Airport that does work on the fleet. One of the buses was probably being dropped off there?
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on January 04, 2018, 12:33:11 PM
So...... I just left my house (Stechford) to catch a 97 into Birmingham and I surprisingly clocked a crimson B7RLE and a 529 branded Platinum going outbound on Bordesley Green East.
Quite surprised to see them on this side of Birmingham but rail replacements ?
MOT, Garretts Green.
Quote from: BN on January 04, 2018, 02:25:55 PM
MOT, Garretts Green.
how come they get sent out for mot? thought wn had an atf as you often see buses from other garages heading wn garage direction for mot
Quote from: mranon on January 04, 2018, 05:00:39 PM
how come they get sent out for mot? thought wn had an atf as you often see buses from other garages heading wn garage direction for mot
Couldn't get the dates required from DVSA.
4170 now in reserve.
Quote from: WB Driver on January 07, 2018, 03:20:02 PM
2025, 2026, 2028, 2062 & 2064 all on WN79 (has the Sunday Allocation changed)
There is only 58 out on a Sunday, so no Tridents anymore.
4143 finishes tonight; 4145 finishes tomorrow. 4143's last two journies before withdrawal will be 16:25 32 service and 17:15 33 service from Wolverhampton
What's last journey for 4145 today ? Please thanks
Hybrid on 256
A hybrid was on the first 126 of the day this morning
Latest entries to the paintshop are 2014 and 2021. Gone today.
Just seen a 255A in Brierley Hill heading towards merry hill...
Only a few days early!
Last rides on 4149 today, finishes after service tonight.
@Dom Wouldn't 4586 on the 126 break the emmissions rules in place in Birmingham, or are there exceptions to them?
Quote from: DJ98 on January 25, 2018, 12:15:03 PM
@Dom Wouldn't 4586 on the 126 break the emmissions rules in place in Birmingham, or are there exceptions to them?
4586 happens to be the only Trident at WN that is compliant. It is Euro 4 compliant and has been for a fair few years.
Quote from: Nathan on January 25, 2018, 12:36:47 PM
4586 happens to be the only Trident at WN that is compliant. It is Euro 4 compliant and has been for a fair few years.
Ah, TIL. I did try searching the forum but I couldn't find any mention of it.
Green machine on 256/257
Hybrid on Colmore Row on 126 now pos 5401
WN 4132 on rt529 left Walsall 18:38 not often now you get a y reg trident on there nowadays
4583, no rear display
Get your last rides on 4140 (11) and 4168 (32/33) today.
Quote from: BN on February 03, 2018, 11:24:40 AM
Get your last rides on 4140 (11) and 4168 (32/33) today.
4140 and 4168 are still in service as of today. 4140 is on the 59 and 4168 is on the 33.
There's a Trident on the 25, not sure how rare that is.
Quote from: Nathan on February 07, 2018, 11:20:44 AM
4140 and 4168 are still in service as of today. 4140 is on the 59 and 4168 is on the 33.
Apologies for the duff information all. 4140 now at Miller street and 4168 will live on till Thursday.
4169 made its penultimate journey to the top yard at Pensnett today. Only journey left will be Barnsley I presume.
I rode on the 1 today and was surprised to see three Tridents on it. Is that usual?
Quote from: Stevo on February 13, 2018, 08:21:46 PM
I rode on the 1 today and was surprised to see three Tridents on it. Is that usual?
Yes, seems to be several Tridents on there most days.
On a similar note, 1 branded 5412 was on the 529 this afternoon.
4168 now withdrawn.
6789 is back out , just departed Colmore Row
I've ummed and arred about putting this post here and if its in the wrong place then feel
free to move it.
I got on a 79 from West Brom a couple of Saturdays ago and the driver on there was one of the nicest I've seen for a long time. Pleasant when I asked for my ticket, though he did look surprised when I said please! And said "you're welcome" when I got off the bus in Bilston after saying "thank you" as i got off. He drove the bus really well as well, waiting for passengers to sit down before moving off, it really was a pleasure being on his bus.
The bus left West Brom bus station at 1400 and the driver was a youngish black man, if anyone here knows him, tell him thank you for a very enjoyable journey.
Quote from: PinkBus on February 24, 2018, 04:08:29 PM
I've ummed and arred about putting this post here and if its in the wrong place then feel
free to move it.
I got on a 79 from West Brom a couple of Saturdays ago and the driver on there was one of the nicest I've seen for a long time. Pleasant when I asked for my ticket, though he did look surprised when I said please! And said "you're welcome" when I got off the bus in Bilston after saying "thank you" as i got off. He drove the bus really well as well, waiting for passengers to sit down before moving off, it really was a pleasure being on his bus.
The bus left West Brom bus station at 1400 and the driver was a youngish black man, if anyone here knows him, tell him thank you for a very enjoyable journey.
Wolverhampton garage do seem to have some really nice drivers, they've all seemed really friendly and polite when I've caught a 79, 82 or 126 in the past. Granted, I try to be nice and polite too, so I guess it goes both ways.
The 82 drivers drive really well too, since a lot of elderly use it to get from their estates to Bilston and beyond, as they always seem to make sure they get a seat before moving.
5419 and 5421 ( 1 branded hybrids ) on WN126's today. One was a replacement for 6782 which had broken down I believe
4150 and 4153 now withdrawn.
4556 is now debranded from the 59. It was out on the 1 yesterday.
Platinum and crimson b7 on 79, is this normal now?
4137 and 4139 now withdrawn.
Quote from: BN on March 10, 2018, 10:57:04 AM
4137 and 4139 now withdrawn.
It sounds like four early Tridents have gone from WN recently; 4137/39/50/53.
Quote from: paulb1973 on March 10, 2018, 09:16:38 PM
It sounds like four early Tridents have gone from WN recently; 4137/39/50/53.
Hi Paul, gone are 4137-43, 45-47, 49-51, 53, 68-71. So quite a few now.
4139 and 4150 now reinstated.
Quote from: BN on March 17, 2018, 08:48:05 AM
4139 and 4150 now reinstated.
is that to cover the shortages as wn seems to have had a few buses on loan of late
853 and 2015 now back in Crimson.
854 now in paint.
bn, will the remaining b7s get crimsoned
I'd imagine all the Volvos will in time be so treated.
There was a B7RLE on the WN 59 and another on the WN 54 today.
Quote from: markcf83 on March 23, 2018, 05:14:15 PM
I'd imagine all the Volvos will in time be so treated.
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At the moment I am planning on everything 57 pate and newer getting Crimson
Quote from: Tony on March 24, 2018, 11:27:59 PM
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At the moment I am planning on everything 57 pate and newer getting Crimson
Don't mind me asking but are BY Omnilinks close to being Crimsoned? They are looking tatty now, also the handful of red/white Omnilinks at PB, they seem to have been forgotten about.
Quote from: mranon on March 22, 2018, 08:55:52 PM
bn, will the remaining b7s get crimsoned
I doubt they would leave WN leave their B7's in red/white while there is Crimsons, I presume they carry on being repainted until the last one at WN is done.
Quote from: Jack on March 25, 2018, 02:05:15 PM
Don't mind me asking but are BY Omnilinks close to being Crimsoned? They are looking tatty now, also the handful of red/white Omnilinks at PB, they seem to have been forgotten about.
I doubt they would leave WN leave their B7's in red/white while there is Crimsons, I presume they carry on being repainted until the last one at WN is done.
There's still a few WA omnilinks in red and white. They started being repainted quite a long time ago. Don't know why there repaining the 1844/1845 omnilinks they looked new enough in just red and white compared to the ones which are currently roaming around with awfully off coloured panels
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 25, 2018, 02:20:01 PM
There's still a few WA omnilinks in red and white. They started being repainted quite a long time ago. Don't know why there repaining the 1844/1845 omnilinks they looked new enough in just red and white compared to the ones which are currently roaming around with awfully off coloured panels
They will need doing at some point anyway. May as well do them in one go then at a later date. 1896 (which hasn't been near the spray booth) was done in 2013 and still looks decent-ish. I'd like 1862 and 1896 to be last red/white ones at WA.
The ones at PB have been forgotten ever since they moved over from YW.
Quote from: Tony on March 24, 2018, 11:27:59 PM
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At the moment I am planning on everything 57 pate and newer getting Crimson
Excellent news. Thanks for that Tony.
Quote from: 2206 on March 24, 2018, 11:25:05 PM
There was a B7RLE on the WN 59 and another on the WN 54 today.
2024 was the B7RLE
@2206
Quote from: Tony on March 24, 2018, 11:27:59 PM
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At the moment I am planning on everything 57 pate and newer getting Crimson
It seems odd to leave out Enviros 4718-4727? Did you mean to include these ones?
Quote from: don on March 27, 2018, 01:27:55 PM
It seems odd to leave out Enviros 4718-4727? Did you mean to include these ones?
Yes, those are include
New replacements in the paintshop are now 2001 and 2018.
854 collected.
Changes to services 3, 4 and 54 from Sunday 15th April.
Key points include:
The Sunday service on the 4 will be extended from Whitburn Close to i54 (to match its Mon-Sat terminus), timetable changes to evening and Sunday 3's and 4's
The 54 will no longer serve Gaol Square in Stafford, it'll run both ways along Chell Rd. Off peak and Saturdays will run as the 54A and miss out Pendeford Business Park. Also to note, standard daysavers will no longer be valid on the full route, a daysaver plus is being introduced.
Full information including the new timetable here:
http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/service-changes-from-sunday-15th-april-2018
Nearly up to the price of Arriva for getting to Stafford then!
well that's going to kill it! and how is it going to work. really think nx ought to reconsider the fares, maybe reducing them in places - they may pick up extra revenue then Stafford side
Quote from: Westy on April 09, 2018, 07:57:01 PM
Nearly up to the price of Arriva for getting to Stafford then!
What do Arriva charge from Wolverhampton to Stafford then?
Quote from: mranon on April 10, 2018, 07:29:12 PM
well that's going to kill it! and how is it going to work. really think nx ought to reconsider the fares, maybe reducing them in places - they may pick up extra revenue then Stafford side
They have reconsidered the fares, hence the changes.
With the set up as it was it was a long way from covering its costs and was going to finish. An NX commercial manager has done some clever scheduling (watch for buses parked between trips with no driver) amongst other savings. He has managed to get a small subsidy (it was going to end completely) and with this daysaver change the calculations are break even. Now most companies wouldn't even look at a break even route, but NX are determined to give it another year to see if they can get it into profit
Quote from: Tony on April 10, 2018, 07:50:41 PM
What do Arriva charge from Wolverhampton to Stafford then?
Well if I go via Cannock from Bloxwich, I have to have a £6.20 day ticket from Arriva.
Quote from: Westy on April 10, 2018, 08:00:36 PM
Well if I go via Cannock from Bloxwich, I have to have a £6.20 day ticket from Arriva.
So still over 20% cheaper
Something different in for paint again now, 5401 just gone in.
Is daysaver plus just for the 54 or are they going to be having more services where you Can use it
Quote from: Solo1 on April 10, 2018, 09:47:40 PM
Is daysaver plus just for the 54 or are they going to be having more services where you Can use it
A Daysaver Plus would be a daysaver you can use on the whole of the 54 and any other National Express Service.
As a daysaver would no longer be valid on the whole of the 54.
QuoteThe standard Daysaver will no longer be valid between i54 and Stafford.
A new Daysaver Plus will be introduced which will be valid on all National Express West Midlands services, including on the 54 & 54A between i54 and Stafford. This will be priced at £5 for adults and £3.50 for children.
Quote from: Tony on April 10, 2018, 08:18:27 PM
So still over 20% cheaper
That's why I said nearly as much as Arriva!
Quote from: Tony on April 10, 2018, 07:59:54 PM
They have reconsidered the fares, hence the changes.
With the set up as it was it was a long way from covering its costs and was going to finish. An NX commercial manager has done some clever scheduling (watch for buses parked between trips with no driver) amongst other savings. He has managed to get a small subsidy (it was going to end completely) and with this daysaver change the calculations are break even. Now most companies wouldn't even look at a break even route, but NX are determined to give it another year to see if they can get it into profit
If this works, what's the possibility of other 'out of WM' routes being introduced?
NX would do well with routes to say Telford , Bridgnorth and Kidderminster perhaps ?
Quote from: Tony on April 10, 2018, 07:59:54 PM
They have reconsidered the fares, hence the changes.
With the set up as it was it was a long way from covering its costs and was going to finish. An NX commercial manager has done some clever scheduling (watch for buses parked between trips with no driver) amongst other savings. He has managed to get a small subsidy (it was going to end completely) and with this daysaver change the calculations are break even. Now most companies wouldn't even look at a break even route, but NX are determined to give it another year to see if they can get it into profit
Does this mean that the 54 / 54a drivers will also cover breaks on other WN routes during the 55 mins wait at Wolverhampton.
Fair play on NXWM for giving it another year. For those travelling to Stafford at peak times it really isn't much of an increase using a daysaver plus compared to a daysaver.
I do wonder whether NCWM might consider extending the daysaver plus to other services which go outside the boundary - the X70 springs to mind!
Quote from: Tony on April 10, 2018, 07:59:54 PM
They have reconsidered the fares, hence the changes.
With the set up as it was it was a long way from covering its costs and was going to finish. An NX commercial manager has done some clever scheduling (watch for buses parked between trips with no driver) amongst other savings. He has managed to get a small subsidy (it was going to end completely) and with this daysaver change the calculations are break even. Now most companies wouldn't even look at a break even route, but NX are determined to give it another year to see if they can get it into profit
some of the proposed fare changes will turn folk away. the daysaver was a true winner, and what will happen with those using mobile phone apps. its hard enough seeing drivers have confrontations with people trying to use network and low fare zone tickets so how will they police this. I think they should try and at least match local competition into Stafford from acton gate onwards, maybe they could pick up more revenue that way?
What s the price if you want to go on the metro as well as the 54
Service
There wont be a combined ticket for metro and Nx as NX are leaving metro and a new company are taking over on the 24th June.
Quote from: Jaysnerz007 on April 11, 2018, 06:49:43 PM
There wont be a combined ticket for metro and Nx as NX are leaving metro and a new company are taking over on the 24th June.
TfWM will be running the Metro.
I thought it was October that tfwm took over
Quote from: Solo1 on April 11, 2018, 07:18:25 PM
I thought it was October that tfwm took over
No, Jay is correct, June 24th. Whether or not he is correct regarding bus and metro daysavers I’m not sure.
Nx are going through a messy divorce at the mo discussing new pay talks and the likes etc etc. Nx did not want to give the metro up but it was out of there hands !!!
Quote from: Jaysnerz007 on April 11, 2018, 07:22:51 PM
Nx are going through a messy divorce at the mo discussing new pay talks and the likes etc etc. Nx did not want to give the metro up but it was out of there hands !!!
How would you know this exactly?
Tfwm wanted to bring it back in house with all the extensions. They will run it alot better then Nx did !!!
Quote from: Jaysnerz007 on April 11, 2018, 09:59:23 PM
Tfwm wanted to bring it back in house with all the extensions. They will run it alot better then Nx did !!!
how will they run it better than nx
By treating there staff right an maybe have a full compliment of trams out every day !!!
Quote from: Jaysnerz007 on April 11, 2018, 09:59:23 PM
Tfwm wanted to bring it back in house with all the extensions. They will run it alot better then Nx did !!!
Haha 'in house!' I give it two years maximum before the first Metro driver strike when the union realises it can manipulate a public company far easier than a private one! This will not end well.
Quote from: Jaysnerz007 on April 11, 2018, 09:59:23 PM
Tfwm wanted to bring it back in house with all the extensions. They will run it alot better then Nx did !!!
They can't even enforce Birmingham's AQPS rules ::) ::)
Two years try the next few months all i say is watch this space !!!!
Quote from: V89MOA on April 11, 2018, 10:32:05 PM
They can't even enforce Birmingham's AQPS rules ::) ::)
Well someone has a bee in their bonnet with WMCA/TfWM
Quote from: Dom on April 11, 2018, 07:19:57 PM
No, Jay is correct, June 24th. Whether or not he is correct regarding bus and metro daysavers I'm not sure.
I understand that is correct.
I also understand that the service will be rebranded in a similar corporate identity to that of West Midlands Railway.
Quote from: Straightlines on April 12, 2018, 08:15:48 AM
I understand that is correct.
I also understand that the service will be rebranded in a similar corporate identity to that of West Midlands Railway.
Spot on.
Nx drivers wont be getting on the Metro from 24th unless there going to pay !
Quote from: Jaysnerz007 on April 12, 2018, 09:21:32 AM
Nx drivers wont be getting on the Metro from 24th unless there going to pay !
Well I will, as will a couple of hundred others,
Quote from: Jaysnerz007 on April 12, 2018, 09:21:32 AM
Nx drivers wont be getting on the Metro from 24th unless there going to pay !
Another load of rubbish!
Quote from: Dom on April 12, 2018, 10:57:55 AM
Another load of rubbish!
So we will still be able to use the Metro
@Dom
How is it rubbish when it will be a new company running it. It wont be Nxs no more
There is/was a crimson e200 on the 81 earlier did the 7am departure
Quote from: Jaysnerz007 on April 12, 2018, 12:18:36 PM
How is it rubbish when it will be a new company running it. It wont be Nxs no more
Have you seen the agreement?
No ones seen any agreement as there hasnt been one yet. They need to sort the pay talks out before they depart !!!
Quote from: Jaysnerz007 on April 12, 2018, 01:31:08 PM
No ones seen any agreement as there hasnt been one yet. They need to sort the pay talks out before they depart !!!
And again, how would you know this?
Quote from: Dom on April 12, 2018, 01:34:09 PM
And again, how would you know this?
And again, how would you know NX staff will lose free travel if there has been no agreement?
A close relative works for them so i hear all of it
Quote from: Jaysnerz007 on April 12, 2018, 01:54:48 PM
A close relative works for them so i hear all of it
aaahhh, canteen gossip, of course
A platinum on the number 4's today
Quote from: Dom on April 12, 2018, 10:57:55 AM
Another load of rubbish!
Isnt the metro going to be operated direct by tfwm?
Quote from: Bob on April 13, 2018, 10:24:08 PM
Isnt the metro going to be operated direct by tfwm?
Indeed it is
Look out for 853/4 Monday, their inaugural runs.
756 now back home, 751 on loan to AG
Will the crimson envrio be out all week avertising the 54
Service & where will the bus be parked
all 3 crimsoned enviros were out this afternoon, but one ended up on the 10 this morning (annoyingly as it doesn't have the equipment to make barrier go down at perton), then saw it on 54 then turned up on the 6.
Quote from: mranon on April 16, 2018, 06:11:56 PM
all 3 crimsoned enviros were out this afternoon, but one ended up on the 10 this morning (annoyingly as it doesn't have the equipment to make barrier go down at perton), then saw it on 54 then turned up on the 6.
That is all one running board now
Quote from: Tony on April 16, 2018, 06:25:24 PM
That is all one running board now
Following mad Arriva interworking system?
Quote from: Solo1 on April 16, 2018, 08:47:28 AM
Will the crimson envrio be out all week avertising the 54
Service & where will the bus be parked
The revised route started today so they will be out all the time now. There is a bit of a launch at the i54 Thursday.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 16, 2018, 06:41:10 PM
Following mad Arriva interworking system?
Perhaps you would prefer the service was cancelled altogether so you could make other idiotic remarks.
As I have said before the service was a long way from break even at 3 buses, by having the third bus operate what were separate peak boards on other routes and keeping the service a nice tidy hourly frequency with built in long drop backs to ensure reliability during the day means the service still exists.
Quote from: Tony on April 16, 2018, 07:02:54 PM
Perhaps you would prefer the service was cancelled altogether so you could make other idiotic remarks.
As I have said before the service was a long way from break even at 3 buses, by having the third bus operate what were separate peak boards on other routes and keeping the service a nice tidy hourly frequency with built in long drop backs to ensure reliability during the day means the service still exists.
Tbh I'm all for interworking routes as long as they don't hinder the reliability of other routes.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 16, 2018, 07:24:23 PM
Tbh I'm all for interworking routes as long as they don't hinder the reliability of other routes.
That was a quick change of mind
Was any thought given to rerouting the 54 via Brewood, as well as Coven?
Quote from: Tony on April 16, 2018, 07:27:33 PM
That was a quick change of mind
I used the word mad- hardly a negative word as such
Quote from: mranon on April 16, 2018, 06:11:56 PM
all 3 crimsoned enviros were out this afternoon, but one ended up on the 10 this morning (annoyingly as it doesn't have the equipment to make barrier go down at perton), then saw it on 54 then turned up on the 6.
850 was on the 4 earlier, too.
No sign of 854 853 & 2 B7 RLE 's was on 54 today
Quote from: Solo1 on April 17, 2018, 05:21:58 PM
No sign of 854 853 & 2 B7 RLE 's was on 54 today
Both 853 and 854 were out yesterday.
Quote from: Solo1 on April 17, 2018, 05:21:58 PM
No sign of 854 853 & 2 B7 RLE 's was on 54 today
854 was having it's 4 weekly inspection today, photo on the main site later
So will be 854 be out the rest of the week
2012 has been rebranded up for services 3 and 4.
Devil's own job getting a decent photo of 854 in bright sunlight on Friday, despite co-operative driver, the first half dozen attempts all had terrible reflections obscuring the fleetname
Quote from: mikestone on April 23, 2018, 03:43:25 PM
Devil's own job getting a decent photo of 854 in bright sunlight on Friday, despite co-operative driver, the first half dozen attempts all had terrible reflections obscuring the fleetname
853 is even worse, the LEDs stuck on night mode!
Quote from: mikestone on April 23, 2018, 03:43:25 PM
Devil's own job getting a decent photo of 854 in bright sunlight on Friday, despite co-operative driver, the first half dozen attempts all had terrible reflections obscuring the fleetname
was that you on Newport road Friday late afternoon?
I'd call it early evening, but yes.
Quote from: Nathan on April 23, 2018, 02:38:10 PM
2012 has been rebranded up for services 3 and 4.
UPDATE.
2012-7 has now been completed with 2019-22 being done Sunday.
Quote from: BN on April 28, 2018, 10:02:02 AM
UPDATE.
2012-7 has now been completed with 2019-22 being done Sunday.
and true to form 2014 branded 3/4 was on the 6 today lol
There's a right mixed bag on the 255 today 2028, 5402 & 6784 (126 branded)
Were any duplicates scheduled for Wolves services today, because of the celabrations?
The reason I ask is, based on what my sister told me when she came in from work today, the first 89 from Bloxwich at 933 this morning was rammed, with pushchair related passengers having to be turned away.
(Before anyone says, I know the 89 is operated by Walsall, so it would have been down to them for extra vehicles, but was Wolves depot considering extra vehicles for their routes?)
just seen 5401 in crimson on the 1 looking smart
5401 is on the 255 will be the ex 1049 from merry hill it looks nice in crimson
5404 is on the 126. Just passed it at Brindleyplace. Currently Wolverhampton bound.
5402 now back at Wolverhampton.
Quote from: Dom on May 21, 2018, 02:36:21 PM
5402 now back at Wolverhampton.
was on 529 tonight pic in photos link
does anyone know if the 79 is currently on a temp diversion route, I've seen it go along Darlaston road instead of coming up woden road to join Darlaston road? This morning i think it was 4343 that went along Darlaston road while in service and 4547 cut off and went down widen road, I've not seen any information on nxwm website.
5404 now back, replaced by 5413, 5414 being collected and replaced by 5421.
Quote from: BN on June 27, 2018, 08:09:28 PM
5404 now back, replaced by 5413, 5414 being collected and replaced by 5421.
And put in an appearance on the 82 today.
Quote from: Nathan on June 27, 2018, 09:38:30 PM
And put in an appearance on the 82 today.
photo on photo links of it
5406 and a Crimson Hybrid were on the 126 today
Quote from: CL on June 28, 2018, 03:39:13 PM
5406 and a Crimson Hybrid were on the 126 today
5402
5410 now back in crimson, replaced by 5406.
5413 now back in crimson, replaced by 5412.
5421 will also be out tomorrow too.
They are popping out the crimson hybrids quickly!
There are two b7s on the 255 (a crimson and 2 branded)
@BN will the b7s resume their crimsoning once the hybrids are done?
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on July 02, 2018, 04:01:31 PM
There are two b7s on the 255 (a crimson and 2 branded)
Also an E200, seen in Wolves ~15:20
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on July 02, 2018, 04:01:31 PM
They are popping out the crimson hybrids quickly!
There are two b7s on the 255 (a crimson and 2 branded)
@BN will the b7s resume their crimsoning once the hybrids are done?
Just seen the 2 branded B7, think it was 2007
think the e200 was 863
Quick question. Has 2004 been finished?
Quote from: markcf83 on July 02, 2018, 08:52:03 PM
Quick question. Has 2004 been finished?
Finished what?
I have it down as being in Walsall for repaint. Same with 2010.
Quote from: markcf83 on July 02, 2018, 09:12:16 PM
I have it down as being in Walsall for repaint. Same with 2010.
@markcf83 2010 has been back in service for about two weeks
Thanks for that. Most grateful.
2957 now taxed and MoT'd and hopefully attending the AMRTM running day at Aldridge on Sunday
Quote from: Tony on July 03, 2018, 12:25:39 PM
2957 now taxed and MoT'd and hopefully attending the AMRTM running day at Aldridge on Sunday
Will it be taking part in some of the runnings or staying static?
Quote from: Westy on July 03, 2018, 04:33:00 PM
Will it be taking part in some of the runnings or staying static?
Should do a couple of trips
4133, 34, 36, 39, 55 now in service at WN with more due tomorrow.
4136 was on the 255 earlier and these to cover during the Scottish open
Quote from: BN on July 10, 2018, 08:27:36 PM
4133, 34, 36, 39, 55 now in service at WN with more due tomorrow.
It was on the 32 yesterday afternoon and on the 59 today for those interested in such things.
Any idea why there was a 126 Plattie in Bilston Bus Station around 1145 this morning?
It was 'Out Of Service'.
Anybody wishing to photograph the latest Hybrid paints you can be outside the depot gates at 8am for the 15 Dundee departures.
Quote from: BN on July 10, 2018, 08:27:36 PM
4133, 34, 36, 39, 55 now in service at WN with more due tomorrow.
These are joined by 4127, 4150, 4180, 4366 and our new recruit to the fleet 4363
which hybrids are staying at Park lane
Sorry, it must have been said already, but what exactly are these 15 Hybrids going to Dundee for? I'm presuming it's short term, as they're all in Crimson and would haven been painted into Dundee Green if permanent.
Quote from: MW on July 12, 2018, 09:24:19 PM
Sorry, it must have been said already, but what exactly are these 15 Hybrids going to Dundee for? I'm presuming it's short term, as they're all in Crimson and would haven been painted into Dundee Green if permanent.
https://www.theopen.com/
Till July 22nd.
Quote from: MW on July 12, 2018, 09:24:19 PM
Sorry, it must have been said already, but what exactly are these 15 Hybrids going to Dundee for? I'm presuming it's short term, as they're all in Crimson and would haven been painted into Dundee Green if permanent.
Shuttle buses for The Open golf tournament at Carnoustie. The contract required hybrid buses
I think I have been told when the Hybrids first came into service that the Alexander/Dennis Hybrids had a low maximum speed which would make for a long journey time to Dundee.
@BN, 853's front LED display is very dark, it was difficult to see it from a distance.
Quote from: John on July 12, 2018, 09:26:47 PM
Shuttle buses for The Open golf tournament at Carnoustie. The contract required hybrid buses
I think they have moved today. Anybody got any idea how it went? Did they all make it North under their own power?
Quote from: Straightlines on July 13, 2018, 06:04:15 PM
I think they have moved today. Anybody got any idea how it went? Did they all make it North under their own power?
Judging by the photos in the NXWM Photos thread, they left Park Lane this morning.
Quote from: StourValley98 on July 13, 2018, 06:16:49 PM
Judging by the photos in the NXWM Photos thread, they left Park Lane this morning.
Was told that 5401 broke down in Chorley
Quote from: CL on July 13, 2018, 06:22:43 PM
Was told that 5401 broke down in Chorley
I've just been told that 3 broke down, with the majority also overheating.
Quote from: StourValley98 on July 13, 2018, 06:36:53 PM
I've just been told that 3 broke down, with the majority also overheating.
What are people's opinion on these? I've only ridden a very small number when BC had them, seeing videos of them they don't look that good and look unreliable. I can't remember them tbh. The B5's are a very good workhorse for NX imo, but these E400H seem to love overheating as I've seen other operators E400H's do the same.
Then again the B5's are Volvo, compared to crappy ADL E400H's.
What are people's thoughts on these?
Quote from: Jack on July 13, 2018, 06:43:25 PM
What are people's opinion on these? I've only ridden a very small number when BC had them, seeing videos of them they don't look that good and look unreliable. I can't remember them tbh. The B5's are a very good workhorse for NX imo, but these E400H seem to love overheating as I've seen other operators E400H's do the same.
Then again the B5's are Volvo, compared to crappy ADL E400H's.
What are people's thoughts on these?
They're as decent as any other E400 whenever I've caught one on the WN1. I'm not a fan of the interior though, the wooden style bits seem tacky and the green and yellow even more so. I do appreciate the stop annoucements though, as long as they're working properly.
I've never had one that's broken down, although that's from a sample size of about 5 trips over a few years.
I'm not a huge fan of ADL products in general, but the regular E400s are decent enough.
Quote from: StourValley98 on July 13, 2018, 06:55:03 PM
They're as decent as any other E400 whenever I've caught one on the WN1. I'm not a fan of the interior though, the wooden style bits seem tacky and the green and yellow even more so. I do appreciate the stop annoucements though, as long as they're working properly.
I've never had one that's broken down, although that's from a sample size of about 5 trips over a few years.
I'm not a huge fan of ADL products in general, but the regular E400s are decent enough.
The B5's have a more 'at home' as the interior feels spacious, the E400H's do seem tacky and tight.
ADL products are rubbish quality imo, E200 and E200 MMC, plastic rubbish. The E400 and E400 MMC's feel a lot better imo.
Quote from: Jack on July 13, 2018, 06:43:25 PM
What are people's opinion on these? I've only ridden a very small number when BC had them, seeing videos of them they don't look that good and look unreliable. I can't remember them tbh. The B5's are a very good workhorse for NX imo, but these E400H seem to love overheating as I've seen other operators E400H's do the same.
Then again the B5's are Volvo, compared to crappy ADL E400H's.
What are people's thoughts on these?
I feel the same way about these as the Scania E400. They're catfish ADL E400s. The Crimson livery suits them really well though
Quote from: Sh4318 on July 13, 2018, 07:07:49 PM
I feel the same way about these as the Scania E400. They're catfish ADL E400s. The Crimson livery suits them really well though
I'd rather have Scania E400's over E400H. The Scania E400 with Stagecoach in Warwickshire are nice buses. The Crimson does look good on them, I agree.
These have a fair more friendly layout to the B5LH which is about the only plus of these buses over the Volvo. The seats are awful, hardly any cushion left compared to the Volvos.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 13, 2018, 07:24:37 PM
These have a fair more friendly layout to the B5LH which is about the only plus of these buses over the Volvo. The seats are awful, hardly any cushion left compared to the Volvos.
The seats in both buses of the same age will be exactly the same. You probably got on a '61' reg Enviro400H and a '13' reg B5LH, the seats on the older buses will be more worn. Or on a seat that had a replacement foam seat base
He might be talking about the rear seats downstairs on the E400H. If it's the same as the Mark I E400s, they had hardly any cushioning when new, so they must be pretty non existent now!
Quote from: MW on July 13, 2018, 07:37:13 PM
He might be talking about the rear seats downstairs on the E400H. If it's the same as the Mark I E400s, they had hardly any cushioning when new, so they must be pretty non existent now!
The MK1 E400's prior to refurbs, the seats at the back downstairs went rockhard after many years of use on busy routes. 4718-4737 - Sutton and 4738-62 on the 50. They really do hurt your bottom!
Quote from: Jack on July 13, 2018, 06:43:25 PM
What are people's opinion on these? I've only ridden a very small number when BC had them, seeing videos of them they don't look that good and look unreliable. I can't remember them tbh. The B5's are a very good workhorse for NX imo, but these E400H seem to love overheating as I've seen other operators E400H's do the same.
Then again the B5's are Volvo, compared to crappy ADL E400H's.
What are people's thoughts on these?
I had mixed feelings about them when they were at BC. They were very quick pulling away, smooth, quiet and could really shift. But they have really stiff suspension and crashed over potholes which could make for a very uncomfortable ride (a bit like a car with sports suspension on huge alloys). No idea what reliability is like these days but the BC ones had some awful spells; once 3 broke down in Harborne or Edgbaston on the same day.
I have read some horror stories about Stagecoach Sheffield ones, and negative stuff about the Lothian ones too (Lothian have since switched to B5LHs, and even Stagecoach in Scotland have since purchased B5LHs, albeit with E400 MMC bodywork).
Quote from: Mike K on July 13, 2018, 07:43:27 PM
I had mixed feelings about them when they were at BC. They were very quick pulling away, smooth, quiet and could really shift. But they have really stiff suspension and crashed over potholes which could make for a very uncomfortable ride (a bit like a car with sports suspension on huge alloys). No idea what reliability is like these days but the BC ones had some awful spells; once 3 broke down in Harborne or Edgbaston on the same day.
I have read some horror stories about Stagecoach Sheffield ones, and negative stuff about the Lothian ones too (Lothian have since switched to B5LHs, and even Stagecoach in Scotland have since purchased B5LHs, albeit with E400 MMC bodywork).
An observation I've made in general. Suspension wise, Volvos tend to be far better than ADL. ADL buses all have that crash sort of suspension. Whenever you go over a pothole or even the slightest bump, you feel it in an ADL, but Volvos seem to glide over them. The Plaxton Presidents had good suspension.
Quote from: MW on July 13, 2018, 07:53:46 PM
An observation I've made in general. Suspension wise, Volvos tend to be far better than ADL. ADL buses all have that crash sort of suspension. Whenever you go over a pothole or even the slightest bump, you feel it in an ADL, but Volvos seem to glide over them. The Plaxton Presidents had good suspension.
E200's have crap suspension, the E200 MMC's aren't better either.
The Presidents were a mixed bag, some had good suspension, some had bad suspension like 4033, which then caused the whole body to move and rattle.
Quote from: CL on July 13, 2018, 06:22:43 PM
Was told that 5401 broke down in Chorley
Sandbach services, 5403 had a blow out just short of Lancaster, a few overheating issues but I don't think it has gone too badly too be honest.
I'm sure Tony may update us at somepoint tonight?
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 13, 2018, 10:43:26 AM
@BN, 853's front LED display is very dark, it was difficult to see it from a distance.
@BN, 6766's front LED display needs correcting. It's stuck in night mode, hard to see in the day.
Quote from: StourValley98 on July 13, 2018, 06:36:53 PM
I've just been told that 3 broke down, with the majority also overheating.
This is what someone said on the Dundee forum:
Quote from: Ross on July 13, 2018, 07:45:18 PM
Anyone waiting for the West Midlands E400Hs will be in for a long wait. At least 1 has broken down, majority have overheaten. Some are only at Kendal (18:46)
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 13, 2018, 08:24:56 PM
@BN, 6766's front LED display needs correcting. It's stuck in night mode, hard to see in the day.
Thanks, I will look into it.
5406 and 2 others have arrived in Dundee
I'm also the same Ross which 2206 quoted earlier
Quote from: ross4122 on July 13, 2018, 09:09:47 PM
5406 and 2 others have arrived in Dundee
I'm also the same Ross which 2206 quoted earlier
I've just read a comment stating that some have just arrived at Gretna Green Services...Which is still 154 miles away from Dundee...
Quote from: BN on July 13, 2018, 08:10:08 PM
Sandbach services, 5403 had a blow out just short of Lancaster, a few overheating issues but I don't think it has gone too badly too be honest.
I'm sure Tony may update us at somepoint tonight?
I'm sure Tony said he won't be able to update on anything much, if at all, unless he could sort out an old laptop.
Quote from: ross4122 on July 13, 2018, 09:09:47 PM
5406 and 2 others have arrived in Dundee
I'm also the same Ross which 2206 quoted earlier
I've just been sent a message stating 10 have now arrived at Dundee. So that leaves 3 left.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on July 13, 2018, 09:40:51 PM
I've just been sent a message stating 10 have now arrived at Dundee. So that leaves 3 left.
Apparently one has broken down at Gretna
Meanwhile on the 1, the service is at its most reliable since they took Turnaround Terry off, no I mean since the green machines displaced the Tridents and Spectras.😂😂😂😂😂😂
Quote from: Straightlines on July 13, 2018, 09:57:43 PM
Apparently one has broken down at Gretna
I've been told four are waiting to be recovered, with the drivers being put up in hotels overnight. So that's five today that haven't made it to Dundee today.
Am I in the Diamond thread, or the NXWM?!
On a serious note, when does this contract begin? All these heaps will need repairing. They'll no doubt break down on the way back too. Might as well send some Volvo B5s up to compensate. I bet they won't break down...
Quote from: MW on July 13, 2018, 11:54:23 PM
Am I in the Diamond thread, or the NXWM?!
On a serious note, when does this contract begin? All these heaps will need repairing. They'll no doubt break down on the way back too. Might as well send some Volvo B5s up to compensate. I bet they won't break down...
The tournament starts Monday.
Quote from: MW on July 13, 2018, 11:54:23 PM
Am I in the Diamond thread, or the NXWM?!
On a serious note, when does this contract begin? All these heaps will need repairing. They'll no doubt break down on the way back too. Might as well send some Volvo B5s up to compensate. I bet they won't break down...
With the contract requiring Hybrids, I had pondered about NX sending some B5s upwards... However, the more I think about it, there are several issues which would render it unviable.
Granted, the B5s are great buses. But in sending them to Dundee, surely drivers would require some form of type training, as it would be introducing a new type of vehicle that Dundee doesn't operate; even only for a couple days. Not a problem with the E400Hs. I guess that's the biggest problem of all.
Another is very minor, and would not at all hinder performance, but (in my opinion) would not send a good impression of National Express. And that is that the majority of B5s are branded for the Bristol Road. Okay, so 5518 is unbranded, but if they
had sent up some branded examples, I feel it would convey the message of NX using whatever buses they had "lying around" (probably not the best choice of words, but hopefully you get what I mean). :)
Just throwing it out there but couldn't the handful of retrofitted Capacitor platinums go up? A much less risky option too considering they've survived the runs to Plaxton and back recently? Would also be a chance to start type training Dundee drivers early ready for their new arrivals.
Surely someone somewhere will have known there'd be issues with these buses travelling such a distance just for a week. Why did NX go for the contract?
Quote from: Kevin on July 14, 2018, 10:04:09 AM
Surely someone somewhere will have known there'd be issues with these buses travelling such a distance just for a week. Why did NX go for the contract?
Additional revenue & profit.
Quote from: Winston on July 14, 2018, 10:09:02 AM
Additional revenue & profit.
But knackering the buses in the process? Is it really worth it?
Quote from: Kevin on July 14, 2018, 10:21:47 AM
But knackering the buses in the process? Is it really worth it?
Clearly NX think it is, with paying to send WM drivers up there / accommodation etc. Plus it will be good publicity for the company at a Prestigious Golf event.
Quote from: V89MOA on July 14, 2018, 12:47:36 AM
Just throwing it out there but couldn't the handful of retrofitted Capacitor platinums go up? A much less risky option too considering they've survived the runs to Plaxton and back recently? Would also be a chance to start type training Dundee drivers early ready for their new arrivals.
I'd guess the other reason that neither these nor B5s were used, in addition to the type training that would be required, is that if any engineering maintenance / repair were required whilst they're up there, NX Dundee staff would have neither the skills nor the spares for maintenance.
How can it be worth it? 15 Hybrids at 42mph going 350 miles there, and back, paying out driver wages (and recovery services...). The only reason Stagecoach didn't go for/get it is because of the lack of Hybrids. Although Arbroath do have 25 of them...
However, I digress.
All the additional costs, such as wages and accomodation, would have been factored into the price that NX quoted for doing the contract.
To being this back to the buses: 5402, 5406, 5412, 5414, 5415, 5416, 5417 and 5421 were all noted looking gleaming in Crimson through the fence of Dock Street this morning
It looks like NXWM have won the tender for the 10A/B off Arriva from the 2nd of September. There are information posters have started to appear at bus stops on the route explaining the upcoming changes regarding the tender...
Quote from: Michael Bevan on July 14, 2018, 10:36:30 PM
It looks like NXWM have won the tender for the 10A/B off Arriva from the 2nd of September. There are information posters have started to appear at bus stops on the route explaining the upcoming changes regarding the tender...
They're getting brave crossing the border!
First Stafford, then Lichfield, now Pattingham!
Didn't wmt run to pattingham all those years back
Quote from: Solo1 on July 15, 2018, 08:14:48 AM
Didn't wmt run to pattingham all those years back
Yeah, Travel West Midlands served the old 517 and 538.
Travel West Midlands Dennis Dart 809 on the 538 in Pattingham on 10th July 1997 (credit to Claire Pendrous): https://flic.kr/p/a1MbSP
WMPTE Leyland Lynx 1064 on the 517 in Perton displaying Pattingham on 12th April 1986 (credit to Walsall1955): https://flic.kr/p/9VVMd4
Additionally, there was the old 537 that went from Wolverhampton to Bridgnorth via Pattingham, Burnhill Green, Backbury, Ryton, Grindle, Kemberton, Brockton, Sutton Maddock, Stockton, Odlington, Lower Allscott, and Fenn Gate. According to Claire Pendrous, this was a long and twisty route that served isolated communities. Dennis Dart 803 on the 537 in Bridgnorth in September 1997 (credit to Claire Pendrous): https://flic.kr/p/4md5bt
WMT 1332 on the 537 to Pattingham on 16th February 1996 (credit to Claire Pendrous): https://flic.kr/p/FSiWUW
I'm sure WMT / TWM did serve the old 516 as well?
Reading this I went to check the Wolverhampton map, because I was sure that Pattingham was, like Perton, Codsall, Wombourne and Kinver, a part of Staffs that allows NWM passes
Turns out I was wrong, and yet all the times I've used my pass on Arriva buses out there it's scanned perfectly happily (ooops). I'd guess NX would ensure they're not accepted across the border
Interesting that on those posters it mentions that "unfortunately Arriva see operating a shuttle bus during the summer", almost as if NX are having a pop at Arriva. And yet Arriva are running the shuttle to give Staffs CC time to sort a replacement
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 15, 2018, 08:48:47 AM
Yeah, Travel West Midlands served the old 517 and 538.
Travel West Midlands Dennis Dart 809 on the 538 in Pattingham on 10th July 1997 (credit to Claire Pendrous): https://flic.kr/p/a1MbSP
WMPTE Leyland Lynx 1064 on the 517 in Perton displaying Pattingham on 12th April 1986 (credit to Walsall1955): https://flic.kr/p/9VVMd4
Additionally, there was the old 537 that went from Wolverhampton to Bridgnorth via Pattingham, Burnhill Green, Backbury, Ryton, Grindle, Kemberton, Brockton, Sutton Maddock, Stockton, Odlington, Lower Allscott, and Fenn Gate. According to Claire Pendrous, this was a long and twisty route that served isolated communities. Dennis Dart 803 on the 537 in Bridgnorth in September 1997 (credit to Claire Pendrous): https://flic.kr/p/4md5bt
WMT 1332 on the 537 to Pattingham on 16th February 1996 (credit to Claire Pendrous): https://flic.kr/p/FSiWUW
I'm sure WMT / TWM did serve the old 516 as well?
Don't recall a 538, but wasn't the 537 one of the routes 'inherited' from Stevensons?
In the early 1970s WMPTE ran a number of routes from Wolverhampton into neighbouring counties to the north and west - they had generally been inherited from Wolverhampton CT - when the Midland Red Black Country and Birmingham routes were taken over in Decenber 1973, most of these routes transferred the other way, to Midland Red and were renumbered into their 8xx series. A key route involved was 17, Wolverhampton to Bridgnorth, which was operated by such exotic single deckers as Daimler Roadliners and AEC Reliances in WMPTE livery.
So there is quite a history of operations from Wolverhampton to those areas.
In the early 90s Midland Red ( probably Tellus rather than Chaserider) ran the Pattingham service and weirdly always used a tinted window Duple Laser Tiger coach on it for some bizarre reason!
Quote from: Bob on July 15, 2018, 02:59:55 PM
In the early 90s Midland Red ( probably Tellus rather than Chaserider) ran the Pattingham service and weirdly always used a tinted window Duple Laser Tiger coach on it for some bizarre reason!
Just found a picture on Flickr. Tellus G612 CFA on 516 in Wolverhampton Bus Station in 1992 (credit to Walsall1955): https://flic.kr/p/8z7t6Y
Also, in the search results, I have found this - P318 FEA was branded for the 516. :o Credit to Walsall1955: https://flic.kr/p/9sLbYF
I am managing to do a few updates to the main site on this old laptop in Dundee, so expect photos of the WN E400s working in Carnoustie on Tuesday. MY first day working on them is an evening turn tomorrow.
4166 is working from WN on the 1 today. I'm assuming it is another Trident drafted in to cover for the hybrids but i don't mind being corrected by those in the know.
EDIT: 4176 is another one to add to the list of 41**'s at Park Lane. It's on the 69 this afternoon
Noted at East Dock Street at 1310 were 5402, 5412, 5415, 5416, 5417 and 5418.
I shall be in Carnoustie in the latter half of this week snapping the Park & Rides.
Quote from: Nathan on July 16, 2018, 12:49:33 PM
4166 is working from WN on the 1 today. I'm assuming it is another Trident drafted in to cover for the hybrids but i don't mind being corrected by those in the know.
EDIT: 4176 is another one to add to the list of 41**'s at Park Lane. It's on the 69 this afternoon
Correct on both, 4183 also turned up. 4340 is also here as a fleet addition.
Looks like the 951 route extension is coming along nicely (in-joke to old WMBUS yahoo group members)
5421 has Edinburgh via Heathrow Airport, Birmingham and Manchester programmed into the blinds.
Southern extension a surprise!
Quote from: Tony on July 23, 2018, 09:13:00 PM
Looks like the 951 route extension is coming along nicely (in-joke to old WMBUS yahoo group members)
5421 has Edinburgh via Heathrow Airport, Birmingham and Manchester programmed into the blinds.
Southern extension a surprise!
Ah yes, I remember the 951D well - presumably it'll be just the occasional peak journeys that extend to / from Dundee?
2078 is on the 1, not sure how noteworthy that is due to the Hybrids being away.
Quote from: StourValley98 on July 25, 2018, 07:46:53 AM
2078 is on the 1, not sure how noteworthy that is due to the Hybrids being away.
The hybrids are back, saw 5402 on the 255 yesterday
hybrids were all back on monday
5420 on a Birmingham bound 126, just left Dudley bus station.
Last 4 Hybrids from Dundee returned to WN yesterday
Just curious, did 5401 reach Dundee (reported to have broken down en route)?
Quote from: don on August 01, 2018, 02:07:53 PM
Just curious, did 5401 reach Dundee (reported to have broken down en route)?
No, we used 5423 instead
5404 on 126 today just seen on tividale road
Also 5411 wad on 126.
Have all the 54** now returned to Wolverhampton from dundee thanks
Quote from: Solo1 on August 01, 2018, 07:19:05 PM
Have all the 54** now returned to Wolverhampton from dundee thanks
read my comment on this very page!
Just saw it thanks Tony & have they all now been painted apart from 5409 thank you
Quote from: Solo1 on August 01, 2018, 08:57:24 PM
Just saw it thanks Tony & have they all now been painted apart from 5409 thank you
Yes.
Wow the 255 has had an upgrade hasn't it!! Platinums and hybrids not a trident to be seen
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 09, 2018, 02:48:53 PM
Wow the 255 has had an upgrade hasn't it!! Platinums and hybrids not a trident to be seen
Only for the summer, there are a couple of tridents working it as well.
@BN could this be the future allocation for the 15/16/17 after the changes :)
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on August 09, 2018, 04:54:06 PM
Only for the summer, there are a couple of tridents working it as well. @BN could this be the future allocation for the 15/16/17 after the changes :)
I traveled on 5421 on 255 all the way from wolvo to merry hill and passed no tridents, just the wonderful hybrids and platinums. The hybrids are great on this route so fast at accelerating
I've just noticed a pretty decent error on the Wolverhampton service changes that took place back in March.
(https://i.imgur.com/nFSdcye.png)
For starters, that 82 is between Wolverhampton and Dudley. There is an 82 that serves Bearwood, but that runs between there and Birmingham. In addition, I can't understand why they'd mention journeys 'towards Walsall', surely towards Bilston would be the easiest way to explain it.
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on August 09, 2018, 04:54:06 PM
Only for the summer, there are a couple of tridents working it as well. @BN could this be the future allocation for the 15/16/17 after the changes :)
No as there are only enough Platinums for the X7/8 services. We are just utilising the spares in the summer schedules.
Well 4555 has ended up somewhere different today...Just managed to photograph it at Salford Circus after coming off the M6. I've just been told this already transferred to Yardley Wood, so not sure what it would have been doing.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on August 15, 2018, 08:37:59 AM
Well 4555 has ended up somewhere different today...Just managed to photograph it at Salford Circus after coming off the M6. I've just been told this already transferred to Yardley Wood, so not sure what it would have been doing.
MOT done at WN now back to YW
Is it true park lane getting 30 brand new buses before Christmas ?
Quote from: mark roberts on August 15, 2018, 10:43:05 PM
Is it true park lane getting 30 brand new buses before Christmas ?
New vehicle orders and allocations won't be mentioned until officially announced, and as of yet they haven't been.
Quote from: mark roberts on August 15, 2018, 10:43:05 PM
Is it true park lane getting 30 brand new buses before Christmas ?
And it is definitely rumours being spread by someone inventing their own stories as no allocations are decided yet
Debranding of the 126 buses has begun, it seems. 6788's (and 6790's) rear done now.
photos over on the mobile_signs_ltd instagram page
6790 has had no rear branding for ages
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/changes-to-service-10-between-wolverhampton-and-perton-and-the-introduction-of-new-services-from-2nd-september-2018
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Pity the 256 is renumbered 16 under the Dudley scheme!
The new tfwm livery am i right its for all jointly operated routes?
Quote from: Bob on August 31, 2018, 12:01:10 PM
The new tfwm livery am i right its for all jointly operated routes?
It's for the jointly operated NXWM/Diamond 42/43 & 31/32 (due to relaunch this Sunday) only at present.
Quote from: Winston on August 31, 2018, 12:22:33 PM
It's for the jointly operated NXWM/Diamond 42/43 & 31/32 (due to relaunch this Sunday) only at present.
Imagine if it covered the 10...i would imagine a fleet of knackered Arriva Cadets/Commanders in the livery would give off a great image 😛
Quote from: Bob on August 31, 2018, 04:11:06 PM
Imagine if it covered the 10...i would imagine a fleet of knackered Arriva Cadets/Commanders in the livery would give off a great image 😛
It don't think that'd wouldn't happen.
It was said its only on those 2 routes at the minute because both operators are willing to put the same number of resources (and the vehicles are the same age) on the routes.
Eg - 42/43 - 6 2012 NX E200 and 6 Diamond 2012 B7RLE.
Quote from: Tony on August 19, 2018, 09:50:28 AM
If you notice, the two routes being done are where both operators are willing to put exactly the same resources into the joint operation. In both cases this means savings in PVR for both operators.
There would need to be a lot more negotiations around the other routes being mentioned
Quote from: 2206 on August 31, 2018, 04:31:42 PM
It don't think that'd wouldn't happen.
It was said its only on those 2 routes at the minute because both operators are willing to put the same number of resources (and the vehicles are the same age) on the routes.
Eg - 42/43 - 6 2012 NX E200 and 6 Diamond 2012 B7RLE.
In that scenario Cannock depot woukdnt even have the reaources to put in 😂
No announcements on the X8.
@Hammad Booked working for a Sunday.
Back to tridents for the 15 tomorrow, I loved having a right mix on the 255/6/7 hybrids platinums b7s.
@BN will the hybrids be rebranded for the 1
I'm planning a trip out today, catching the bus from near my home in Tipton up to Wolverhampton before making use of my university's free bus to Telford, then possibly onwards to Shrewsbury.
I plan on catching the WN82 to get me to Wolverhampton, from the stop at the corner of Dimmocks Ave and Central Drive. However, Google Maps says that the route will be operated by Diamond Bus. Is this just a cock up from Google/TfWM/Traveline/Whoever inputs the data, since I know Diamond run the route later in the evenings, or has it changed to a Diamond route now?
Quote from: StourValley98 on September 03, 2018, 04:43:04 AM
I'm planning a trip out today, catching the bus from near my home in Tipton up to Wolverhampton before making use of my university's free bus to Telford, then possibly onwards to Shrewsbury.
I plan on catching the WN82 to get me to Wolverhampton, from the stop at the corner of Dimmocks Ave and Central Drive. However, Google Maps says that the route will be operated by Diamond Bus. Is this just a cock up from Google/TfWM/Traveline/Whoever inputs the data, since I know Diamond run the route later in the evenings, or has it changed to a Diamond route now?
That's a cock up. Still an NX route.
Has anyone noticed that the X7 doesn't show up on the nxwm app, doesn't show it's timetable all (my mistake, I thought it was only limited stop from wolvo to dudley)
6773 on the X7 this morning:
The driver is refusing to stop at any of the stops it is supposed to stop at because it doesn't have X7 on the bus stop. Surely the drivers should know which stops they are meant to stop at.
Pretty poor excuse to be honest.
Quote from: OH25 on September 05, 2018, 08:37:17 AM
6773 on the X7 this morning:
The driver is refusing to stop at any of the stops it is supposed to stop at because it doesn't have X7 on the bus stop. Surely the drivers should know which stops they are meant to stop at.
Pretty poor excuse to be honest.
No, they don't. They're expected to know.
Me as a driver, I don't know a lot of the Stop names, so if they give out sheets listing the stops, unless it's a main monument or timing point, I wouldn't know either.
Quote from: MW on September 05, 2018, 01:20:27 PM
No, they don't. They're expected to know.
Me as a driver, I don't know a lot of the Stopi names, so if they give out sheets listing the stops, unless it's a main monument or timing point, I wouldn't know either.
X7 Dudley Birmingham is new territory for Wolverhampton bus drivers it take time for rota drivers to learn roads stop names.
Quote from: PB2938 on September 05, 2018, 06:03:12 PM
X7 Dudley Birmingham is new territory for Wolverhampton bus drivers it take time for rota drivers to learn roads stop names.
Surely the stop at City Hospital, mentioned on the displays and timetables is pretty much a given and should be known whether it is new territory or not.
Does anyone know why the 79 is running a support bus service today?
Quote from: Trident4590 on September 07, 2018, 04:13:19 PM
Does anyone know why the 79 is running a support bus service today?
Support bus?
I know the temporary lights at Hill Top / Witton Lane are stuck on red and the driver of one I caught this morning was moaning a out it to all drivers passing the other way. I alighted it and he was 17 late I can only imagine it just getting worse
They seem to be running two buses together (Support bus) a lot of them coming the other way were running a support bus aswell, I even saw a 79E running to Wednesbury and then the one after becoming packed
Quote from: Trident4590 on September 07, 2018, 05:42:01 PM
They seem to be running two buses together (Support bus) a lot of them coming the other way were running a support bus aswell, I even saw a 79E running to Wednesbury and then the one after becoming packed
Not quite sure where you get support bus from. Wolverhampton are certainly not running any extras if that's what you mean, but as said above temporary traffic light stuck on red do tend to screw timetables up
I've just seen some photos of 6765 driving along the pedestrianised high street in Walsall, does anyone know why it was going along there? It had 529 on the blinds too, rather than being out of service.
Quote from: StourValley98 on September 09, 2018, 06:38:19 PM
I've just seen some photos of 6765 driving along the pedestrianised high street in Walsall, does anyone know why it was going along there? It had 529 on the blinds too, rather than being out of service.
was it going in-bound
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on September 09, 2018, 06:51:17 PM
was it going in-bound
It had Walsall on the blind. I've heard there was a diversion in place but the high street wasn't part of it!
Quote from: StourValley98 on September 09, 2018, 07:05:32 PM
It had Walsall on the blind. I've heard there was a diversion in place but the high street wasn't part of it!
Must of took the wrong turn or something
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on September 09, 2018, 07:19:45 PM
Must of took the wrong turn or something
Could be the driver didn't know the area and took a wrong turn, or maybe the driver wasn't aware there was a diversion and then got a bit lost, i'd imagine.
Quote from: StourValley98 on September 09, 2018, 07:05:32 PM
It had Walsall on the blind. I've heard there was a diversion in place but the high street wasn't part of it!
Are these pics online anywhere?
The only Walsall diversion today was St Pauls Street southbound, which meant diversions were via Littleton Street, Hatherton Street, Hatherton Road, Lichfield Street.
Did the 529 & WA 41 serve The Wharf before turning up Stafford Street to Littleton Street, or (I think the most likely!) run direct along Blue Lane West, past the old police station to Littleton Street?
I wouldn't be surprised if the 69 & WA70 turned from Green Lane onto Blue Lane either.
Quote from: Westy on September 09, 2018, 10:07:42 PM
Are these pics online anywhere?
The only Walsall diversion today was St Pauls Street southbound, which meant diversions were via Littleton Street, Hatherton Street, Hatherton Road, Lichfield Street.
Did the 529 & WA 41 serve The Wharf before turning up Stafford Street to Littleton Street, or (I think the most likely!) run direct along Blue Lane West, past the old police station to Littleton Street?
I wouldn't be surprised if the 69 & WA70 turned from Green Lane onto Blue Lane either.
Here's a couple of photos, not mine by any means.
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/361072800724680714/488408655486517267/41339058_10214478890538755_5599824978099830784_n.png)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/325386394598113281/488398793264332800/41423869_10214478890658758_8680882564602265600_n.png)
Looking at the photos, I couldnt see any passengers on!
It must be a mistake on the drivers part!
Quote from: Westy on September 10, 2018, 04:55:12 PM
Looking at the photos, I couldnt see any passengers on!
It must be a mistake on the drivers part!
Now you don't see that everyday
Are the X7/8 going to be branded?
Is 4535 set to be repainted into Wolverhampton Corporation livery in the near future? It's listed on the entry list for Showbus as that livery, rather than NXWM.
Quote from: StourValley98 on September 12, 2018, 10:54:38 PM
Is 4535 set to be repainted into Wolverhampton Corporation livery in the near future? It's listed on the entry list for Showbus as that livery, rather than NXWM.
A rather subtle hint that... Would seem pretty much a given that will happen now
Look out for some new branding this weekend.
Quote from: BN on September 15, 2018, 07:58:35 AM
Look out for some new branding this weekend.
I'd presume on the X7/X8 Platinums, although then again, I reckon the 79 could be a good candidate to get some branding again.
Quote from: StourValley98 on September 15, 2018, 08:34:00 AM
I'd presume on the X7/X8 Platinums, although then again, I reckon the 79 could be a good candidate to get some branding again.
The Hybrids on the 1?
Quote from: Jack on September 15, 2018, 08:47:27 AM
The Hybrids on the 1?
Good point, I forgot that those had been debranded now that they're in crimson.
Slightly off topic but I was traveling on 6783 on the WN X8 yesterday. The next stop announcements were working and seemed to be spot on and very clear.
" The next stop is ............. etc ". Very handy for the limited stop section.
I guess it's still and trial for now and then they'll do the other buses asap.
Quote from: TT90 on September 16, 2018, 08:36:53 AM
Slightly off topic but I was traveling on 6783 on the WN X8 yesterday. The next stop announcements were working and seemed to be spot on and very clear.
" The next stop is ............. etc ". Very handy for the limited stop section.
I guess it's still and trial for now and then they'll do the other buses asap.
I caught that one a couple of days ago, and I noticed they were working on there too. Hopefully its rolled out to the others, as you mentioned, as they did seem to be pretty well implemented.
5421 is on the X8.
Seen at Five Ways on a X8 to Wolverhampton at about 11:20 today.
Quote from: 2206 on September 26, 2018, 12:26:51 PM
5421 is on the X8.
Seen at Five Ways on a X8 to Wolverhampton at about 11:20 today.
parked up with its hazards on at the Wolverhampton Road stop on Hagley Road.
4136 now reinstated at Wolverhampton. did an afternoon peak board on the 1 yesterday
Quote from: 900 on October 03, 2018, 03:28:51 PM
756 on WN X8 just left Wolverhampton towards Birmingham
In Brum just in time for rush hour
Hilarious
Surely it cannot have been the only available bus in depot?
Quote from: Kevin on October 03, 2018, 03:33:11 PM
Surely it cannot have been the only available bus in depot?
It didn't come out of depot. It was used after finishing the last 62 journey on the running board to cover so the bus left on time. If a bus had come out of garage to cover that then it wouldn't have been anywhere near time, so basically wouldn't have run as far as the TC was concerned
Don't suppose 756 is still out?
Yess coming out of city now
4535 was on the 854 today. Also may I ask what does the 854 inter-work with
Quote from: BusMan Greg on October 04, 2018, 06:01:55 PM
4535 was on the 854 today. Also may I ask what does the 854 inter-work with
There are two buses on afternoon 854's. One goes onto the 5/5A (Wolverhampton to Codsall) for a couple of trips, and the other does two inbound 54 shorts from i54 into Wolverhampton.
Was a trident on 17 earlier and it had two screens in it, improved lighting and speakers?
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on October 11, 2018, 10:56:51 PM
Was a trident on 17 earlier and it had two screens in it, improved lighting and speakers?
I guess you're on about 4368; seeing as it's a rather recent transfer to Wolverhampton.
It was dubbed the "trojan bus" by some media outlets.. Here's an article by the BBC
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-24832520
It was kitted out in 2013, and also features "full-colour" LED destination displays; on front, side, and rear. Only ever time I've seen this used to its potential was when it was at BC, and the blinds for the 22 were programmed in bright green (as opposed to the typical orange).
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on October 11, 2018, 10:56:51 PM
Was a trident on 17 earlier and it had two screens in it, improved lighting and speakers?
4368, is the only bus I can think of which fits that description. I recall the speakers and screen (from what I recall at the time had a picture of a green hybrid bus on it).
From when it was at BC a few years back, I recall catching that on a 70 from the Fox & Goose to Solihull.
Freshly reinstated 4134 out on the 79 today
Nobody spotted 2957 in Merry Hill today?
Quote from: BN on October 31, 2018, 04:33:34 PM
Nobody spotted 2957 in Merry Hill today?
Saw it in Commonside at about 11:00 heading from High Oak towards Brierley Hill.
Was there at around half 2 was a weird sight
Quote from: BN on October 31, 2018, 04:33:34 PM
Nobody spotted 2957 in Merry Hill today?
Yes, photographed it earlier this morning and watched it park into place. I've put some photos on some of the West Midlands focused Facebook bus groups.
If 5412 is going to be off for a long time & hasn't left how come it can't be used
Quote from: Solo1 on November 01, 2018, 09:19:08 AM
If 5412 is going to be off for a long time & hasn't left how come it can't be used
Maybe it is in no fit state to be used and is waiting to go off for repair
Quote from: John on November 01, 2018, 09:27:16 AM
Maybe it is in no fit state to be used and is waiting to go off for repair
Correct John! Silly question really
Quote from: John on November 01, 2018, 09:27:16 AM
Maybe it is in no fit state to be used and is waiting to go off for repair
Swap with 5409?
Just noticed that WVs heritage livery bus has now got a platinum destination board
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on November 07, 2018, 05:41:47 PM
Just noticed that WVs heritage livery bus has now got a platinum destination board
Just the front blind, couldn't be arsed to do the side and back though in the same way they couldn't be arsed to clean the thing while it was away!
The platinums have the new display also with #thankyou100 on the 529 think it might be on a of the platinums
Spotted 4535 a couple of times today, first at Maypole, then later turning from Howard Road East onto Alcester Road South, presume this was the bus running the Yardley Wood shuttle service today?
Quote from: Stu on November 10, 2018, 05:16:46 PM
Spotted 4535 a couple of times today, first at Maypole, then later turning from Howard Road East onto Alcester Road South, presume this was the bus running the Yardley Wood shuttle service today?
One of the buses. 2957, Aston Manor's PD2 2222 and 734 also did turns.
NXWM have been operating Grand Slam Of Darts shuttles to Aldersley Leisure Village today. 2089 was one of the vehicles and had to be single deck due to a low bridge en route.
Quote from: Stu on November 10, 2018, 05:16:46 PM
Spotted 4535 a couple of times today, first at Maypole, then later turning from Howard Road East onto Alcester Road South, presume this was the bus running the Yardley Wood shuttle service today?
Then it went onto the 529
Are there any issues with some Tridents at Park Lane or something? I've seen a few more B7RLEs than usual on the 79 today, and there were a couple on the WN82 too.
Quote from: StourValley98 on November 15, 2018, 06:27:49 PM
Are there any issues with some Tridents at Park Lane or something? I've seen a few more B7RLEs than usual on the 79 today, and there were a couple on the WN82 too.
There have been Tridents on the 79 most days since WN lost the 437*'s to CV and B7RLE's came in from PN. The 69 has started seeing Tridents again over the past week with the 82 starting to see several B7RLE's, whether they are linked, not sure.
Quote from: Nathan on November 15, 2018, 07:40:59 PM
There have been Tridents on the 79 most days since WN lost the 437*'s to CV and B7RLE's came in from PN. The 69 has started seeing Tridents again over the past week with the 82 starting to see several B7RLE's, whether they are linked, not sure.
There have been Tridents on the 79 most days since 2002. :p
If B7RLE's are back on the 82, has the left turn from Willenhall Road onto Moseley Road been sorted?
Speaking of Tridents, what's happened to 4343?
@BN
Quote from: Nathan on November 15, 2018, 07:40:59 PM
There have been B7RLE's on the 79 most days since WN lost the 437*'s to CV and B7RLE's came in from PN. The 69 has started seeing Tridents again over the past week with the 82 starting to see several B7RLE's, whether they are linked, not sure.
Cheers 😂 I meant B7RLE's.
Just noted 6795 at scott arms turning off newton road onto the walsall road city bound. Not in service
Are park lane having the 89
Quote from: 37351ml on November 27, 2018, 11:33:52 AM
Just noted 6795 at scott arms turning off newton road onto the walsall road city bound. Not in service
doing the police thing when they catch divers on their phone
Quote from: Nathan on December 03, 2018, 08:37:37 PM
What makes you say that?
I did hear a rumour about it might be going to park lane
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on December 03, 2018, 08:42:32 PM
I did hear a rumour about it might be going to park lane
This rumour was a long while back and proved to be untrue.
On behalf of my sister, would it operate any better?
Quote from: Westy on December 04, 2018, 12:25:17 PM
On behalf of my sister, would it operate any better?
It makes absolutely no difference. Delays aren't caused by what garage operate it - usually it's traffic, etc.
Just a different garage operating it and consequently different buses and drivers.
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on December 04, 2018, 10:51:55 PM
2221 is enviro 200MMC is there a loan or a typo error
If you actually read what was said, instead of randomly posting.
It clearly says a Trident operated the 22:21 journey from Castlecroft.
So no its neither of the above.
Quote from: 2206 on December 04, 2018, 10:54:50 PM
If you actually read what was said, instead of randomly posting.
It clearly says a Trident operated the 22:21 journey from Castlecroft.
So no its neither of the above.
With due respect your post didn't say that at all and was less than clear - it said something about a dust cart also?
Quote from: don on December 04, 2018, 11:07:51 PM
With due respect your post didn't say that at all and was less than clear - it said something about a dust cart also?
It wasn't my post. But, it did say "Trident on the 3/4" (not E200 MMC) and "2221 off Castlecroft" meaning the 22:21 departure.
When he says a dustcart, he means a Wright Eclipse 2 B7RLE.
Quote from: 2206 on December 04, 2018, 11:11:04 PM
It wasn't my post. But, it did say "Trident on the 3/4" (not E200 MMC) and "2221 of Castlecroft" meaning the 22:21 departure.
When he says a dustcart, he means a Wright Eclipse 2 B7RLE.
Thanks for the clarification. I had no idea what dustcart was referring to. (BTW, it's "
Off" Castlecroft)
6759 has just broken down outside Willenhall Lock Museum on the 529!
(On the plus side, my Igo 326 turned up this time!)
Apparently WN had 14 Tridents VOR on Monday amongst others and a number of buses on the 11 and 25 didn't run.
In the words of the piss poor engineering team "same old same old"
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on December 19, 2018, 09:17:34 PM
In the words of the piss poor engineering team
Insulting comments about people you don't even know from here say are definitely not welcome
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on December 19, 2018, 09:17:34 PM
Apparently WN had 14 Tridents VOR on Monday amongst others and a number of buses on the 11 and 25 didn't run.
In the words of the piss poor engineering team "same old same old"
Ashley, disappointing comments here about the team. Maybe you would prefer to pm me any issues or even arrange a depot visit to see the effort and understand what goes into maintaining the fleet?
Quote from: BN on December 20, 2018, 07:21:43 PM
Ashley, disappointing comments here about the team. Maybe you would prefer to pm me any issues or even arrange a depot visit to see the effort and understand what goes into maintaining the fleet?
you really have to watch what you are saying because it could come back round and bite you?
Out of the ex 126 platinums 6790 seems to be the only one not rebranded for the x7/8
Quote from: Jack6101 on January 05, 2019, 09:42:51 PM
Out of the ex 126 platinums 6790 seems to be the only one not rebranded for the x7/8
did that receive generic branding
Quote from: Hammad on January 05, 2019, 11:52:26 PM
did that receive generic branding
Nope no branding at all
Quote from: Jack6101 on January 06, 2019, 08:28:09 AM
Nope no branding at all
Yes it was branded for the services but has been involved in an accident and it is awaiting new livery again.
Quote from: BN on January 06, 2019, 09:17:59 AM
Yes it was branded for the services but has been involved in an accident and it is awaiting new livery again.
oh ok
4152 will do the 09:10 33 from Wolverhampton, then return to garage and be withdrawn
Quote from: Tony on January 09, 2019, 08:55:51 AM
4152 will do the 09:10 33 from Wolverhampton, then return to garage and be withdrawn
Thanks for the info, made it into Wolverhampton on an 81 just in time for it.
Here she is on her last trip in service, thanks for the info, it's much appreciated.
(https://i.imgur.com/hvz5qKQ.jpg)
One thing thats puzzled me, is why buses due to be withdrawn, go out for one or two trips, then get withdrawn.
Why not withdraw it at the end of the day's service?
Quote from: Westy on January 09, 2019, 10:43:55 AM
One thing thats puzzled me, is why buses due to be withdrawn, go out for one or two trips, then get withdrawn.
Why not withdraw it at the end of the day's service?
The staff that do things like change the tyres and remove electrical equipment generally work day shifts, so you might as well use the bus in the morning peak
Whats with the 'musical accompiment' on the speakers of the Platties?
(As far as the 529 is concerned!)
Its a few little musical notes!
Dont hear them on Walsall's Platties!
Quote from: Westy on January 10, 2019, 04:36:51 PM
Whats with the 'musical accompiment' on the speakers of the Platties?
(As far as the 529 is concerned!)
Its a few little musical notes!
Dont hear them on Walsall's Platties!
What do you mean by that, i've never noticed anything like that either the new style or old next stop announcements at BC?
Infact, a lot of BC buses seem to have the new style next stop announcements now.
The few times i've been on the X7/X8 as well, I don't remember ever noticing any musical accompiment?
Is this at every stop, or just at the terminus, as I know the BC Platinums with the old next stop announcements would make some sort of musical sound at the terminus when they start and something like "Welcome Aboard Route X2" appeared on the display.
Quote from: Westy on January 10, 2019, 04:36:51 PM
Whats with the 'musical accompiment' on the speakers of the Platties?
(As far as the 529 is concerned!)
Its a few little musical notes!
Dont hear them on Walsall's Platties!
I have reported to a WN engineer about one Platinum that does the musical noise.
Quote from: 2206 on January 10, 2019, 05:29:21 PM
What do you mean by that, i've never noticed anything like that either the new style or old next stop announcements at BC?
Infact, a lot of BC buses seem to have the new style next stop announcements now.
The few times i've been on the X7/X8 as well, I don't remember ever noticing any musical accompiment?
Is this at every stop, or just at the terminus, as I know the BC Platinums with the old next stop announcements would make some sort of musical sound at the terminus when they start and something like "Welcome Aboard Route X2" appeared on the display.
I think it's something to do with when the Hanover is changed by the driver, heard them many times on PB and BC Platinums.
Quote from: Jack on January 10, 2019, 07:02:39 PM
I think it's something to do with when the Hanover is changed by the driver, heard them many times on PB and BC Platinums.
Yes, it's when the bus is looking for the route it is on to select the stops. The new ones do it when I have been moving them around BC even though they haven't got ticket machines fitted or the data installed. Only happens oncenot before each announcement
Quote from: Tony on January 10, 2019, 07:07:35 PM
Yes, it's when the bus is looking for the route it is on to select the stops. The new ones do it when I have been moving them around BC even though they haven't got ticket machines fitted or the data installed. Only happens oncenot before each announcement
I'm interested in this subject, what's the general consensus on the volume? Just right or too high/low. The more responses the better please, here or pm.
Quote from: BN on January 10, 2019, 07:49:07 PM
I'm interested in this subject, what's the general consensus on the volume? Just right or too high/low. The more responses the better please, here or pm.
If they are the same as the ones at BC, then they're certainly clear and not too low, any louder would be a bit to much, one of AG's I went on once was to low and I could barely make out what it was saying from the top deck when I got on one of them once.
They're about right in my opinion, at least this way all passengers can hear them, though some people still don't seem to be able to hear them/notice them, there were lots of passengers on the X2 earlier were asking the driver why its not going to the City Centre and seemed surprised, though it had been announcing "X2 to Yardley" after every stop since Solihull, I do think the introduction of announcing the terminus is probably a good idea though and it did seem to help in informing passengers it wasn't going to where they want to go.
I heard it over listening to my personal Dab Fm radio.
(Anyone like Greatest Hits by the way, the replacement for Free 80's & the Absolute Fm service?)
Will the x7 get the new style annocwments cause there more stops on there since it stated
Quote from: Westy on January 10, 2019, 07:59:36 PM
I heard it over listening to my personal Dab Fm radio.
(Anyone like Greatest Hits by the way, the replacement for Free 80's & the Absolute Fm service?)
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Listened to a little bit, not too shabby. Gives me a fix of 80's music lost from Heart. Would prefer Absolute. I'm more of an avid Radio 1 (sometimes Radio 2) listener, although... this isn't the Digital Spy forum so best get back on topic before this is deleted 😂😂
I suppose this is somewhat relevent... if anyone knows, who does the voiceovers on the Platinums? BBC WM came on my radio the other day and i'm sure one of the station voices/announcers was the same guy who voices the Platinum's audio announcements.
Quote from: Nathan on January 11, 2019, 12:12:12 AM
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Listened to a little bit, not too shabby. Gives me a fix of 80's music lost from Heart. Would prefer Absolute. I'm more of an avid Radio 1 (sometimes Radio 2) listener, although... this isn't the Digital Spy forum so best get back on topic before this is deleted 😂😂
I suppose this is somewhat relevent... if anyone knows, who does the voiceovers on the Platinums? BBC WM came on my radio the other day and i'm sure one of the station voices/announcers was the same guy who voices the Platinum's audio announcements.
I know 'Flupton' used to do them, but he moved to BBC Coventry a few years ago, so whether that disqualifies him now, I dont know!
Quote from: Westy on January 11, 2019, 12:52:17 PM
I know 'Flupton' used to do them, but he moved to BBC Coventry a few years ago, so whether that disqualifies him now, I dont know!
A voice actor does it now for the platinums
6767 just threw a slight wobbler on the 529 just.
After that musical bit previously mentioned, the display & audio changed to say 'Next stop Shakespeare Street'!
Wheres Shakespeare Street?
Taking a guess its on the X7 or X8!
Quote from: Westy on January 11, 2019, 04:35:12 PM
6767 just threw a slight wobbler on the 529 just.
After that musical bit previously mentioned, the display & audio changed to say 'Next stop Shakespeare Street'!
Wheres Shakespeare Street?
Taking a guess its on the X7 or X8!
No. It's in Wolverhampton...on the route 529! Shakespeare Street is a street off the main road A454 Horseley Fields. Second bus stop from Wolverhampton Bus Station towards Walsall.
Quote from: P419 EJW on January 11, 2019, 06:04:48 PM
No. It's in Wolverhampton...on the route 529! Shakespeare Street is a street off the main road A454 Horseley Fields. Second bus stop from Wolverhampton Bus Station towards Walsall.
Ah not very often I use the 529 to Wolves itself. Normally go to Wolves on the 89 as I live in Bloxwich.
4308 is still at WN on the 16/17 today? Is it still destined for transfer to PN
@Tony
Quote from: BN on January 10, 2019, 07:49:07 PM
I'm interested in this subject, what's the general consensus on the volume? Just right or too high/low. The more responses the better please, here or pm.
529 is one of my local routes,
@BN.
The announcements on some 529 branded MMCs are too loud. When I don't have my processor switched on (I'm a cochlear implant user), I can feel the vibrations from the speakers in my chest. Some MMCs say "The next stop is... Hill Road/Noose Lane." Then when a bus arrives at the bus stop, it interrupts before it has a chance to say the whole bus stop name. "Hill Ro-... The next stop is Neachells Lane." Then says the current bus stop name "Hill Road." Same issue for Bentley Cemetery and Warwick Avenue. It says like this "Bentley Cemetery. The next sto-... Bentley Cemetery."
The announcements say a bus stop name three times. Too much? One from 'The next stop is...', one from a short distance from that bus stop, and one at that bus stop.
Oh, and 6767 -still- has the issue with the announcements that it plays a melodic tune before every stop name. Had it home last night at 23:25 ex Walsall.
Two and half years later, they finally want the feedback for the announcements. Terrible.
Quote from: P419 EJW on January 23, 2019, 12:18:17 PM
529 is one of my local routes, @BN.
The announcements on some 529 branded MMCs are too loud. When I don't have my processor switched on (I'm a cochlear implant user), I can feel the vibrations from the speakers in my chest. Some MMCs say "The next stop is... Hill Road/Noose Lane." Then when a bus arrives at the bus stop, it interrupts before it has a chance to say the whole bus stop name. "Hill Ro-... The next stop is Neachells Lane." Then says the current bus stop name "Hill Road." Same issue for Bentley Cemetery and Warwick Avenue. It says like this "Bentley Cemetery. The next sto-... Bentley Cemetery."
The announcements say a bus stop name three times. Too much? One from 'The next stop is...', one from a short distance from that bus stop, and one at that bus stop.
Oh, and 6767 -still- has the issue with the announcements that it plays a melodic tune before every stop name. Had it home last night at 23:25 ex Walsall.
Two and half years later, they finally want the feedback for the announcements. Terrible.
The new announcements at BC don't repeat themselves as much, presumably they'll be rolled out across the fleet eventually and other garages such as WN will get them, they're definetly better in that instance. Previously they were consistently repeating themself over and over again "The Next Stop is Old Lode Lane, Hatchford Brook Road, The next stop is... (it would then cut out), Then next stop is Old Lode Lane, Hatchford Brook Road, then announcing the stop for a third time.
With the new annoncements, the announcement of destination, is usefulf for passengers who have got on the wrong bus without checking the destination display as well. I've not seen any interputed announcements on these new announcements any they only announce it for a second time if the bus stops at the stop. There's certainly been some improvements there.
They've made the annoncemebts shorter with these as well, for example they announce "Hatchford Brook", rather than "Old Lode Lane, Hatchford Brook Road".
I've been a fan of next stop announcements since NXWM introduced them. The whole "the next stop is..." and other varients don't bother me. If the announcements don't work or are too quiet, the journey isn't quite the same now they're increasingly the norn.
I know it isn't quite the right thread but since the questions been asked, if they could throw in a "this is your 529 to Walsall" for example to play leaving the bus station or on the Ring Road if you're on the X7/X8.
I also like the double barrel ones like "Stowheath Lane, The Merry Boys".
Also, will Mr Platinum replace the iconic tones of Judy on the 1 since a few of those are out of date?
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on January 23, 2019, 02:53:57 PM
I've been a fan of next stop announcements since NXWM introduced them. The whole "the next stop is..." and other varients don't bother me. If the announcements don't work or are too quiet, the journey isn't quite the same now they're increasingly the norn.
Yes I agree with that, and from what i've seen they are very useful for those who may not know the route and the area, and i'd think anyone with sight problems, the blind, etc, would also find them incredibly useful.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on January 23, 2019, 02:53:57 PM
I know it isn't quite the right thread but since the questions been asked, if they could throw in a "this is your 529 to Walsall" for example to play leaving the bus station or on the Ring Road if you're on the X7/X8.
The new announcements announce on the Cov Rd, Uni, Harborne and 50 already do that, announcing, "X2 to Solihull Station", etc. after leaving the stops, so if they're rolled out across the rest of the fleet, rather than being just at YW and BC as they are at present, then I imagine they do already intend on doing that.
If it was possible it would be nice to see them rolled out on some of the newer standard buses across the fleet as well on routes like the MMC on the, 11A/C, 6, 4/A and 14/126 as welll. I recall reading that they fitted the Omnilinks on the 4/H/M with next stop announcements easily enough.
The best route with the announcements is the X12, as it doesn't stupidly repeat and and cut out it doesn't sound like London iBus.
I hope they sort out PB's announcements, of which are still announcing the stop when the bus is on top of it.
The Omnilinks on the 28 (I think) are a good candidate for next stop announcements, same to those on the 4/4H/4M.
Quote from: Jack on January 23, 2019, 06:17:55 PM
The best route with the announcements is the X12, as it doesn't stupidly repeat and and cut out it doesn't sound like London iBus.
I hope they sort out PB's announcements, of which are still announcing the stop when the bus is on top of it.
The Omnilinks on the 28 (I think) are a good candidate for next stop announcements, same to those on the 4/4H/4M.
Why does it matter if they are similar to Londons next stop announcements?
Its not like the average passenger would be bothered.
Quote from: 2206 on January 23, 2019, 06:21:16 PM
Why does it matter if they are similar to Londons next stop announcements?
It's annoying for a start, everytime the bus closes its doors, "50 to Druids Heath". It's gets on your nerves quite easily as it's repeated at a constant pace.
I'm sure people who have a daily commute on the routes with TfL soundalike announcements get sick of hearing them daily.
Quote from: Jack on January 23, 2019, 06:22:43 PM
It's annoying for a start, everytime the bus closes its doors, "50 to Druids Heath". It's gets on your nerves quite easily as it's repeated at a constant pace.
I'm sure people who have a daily commute on the routes with TfL soundalike announcements get sick of hearing them daily.
You could say that for any of the announcements to be honest, someone commuting on the X12 could just as easily be sick of hearing "the next stop is ...." everyday. Some probably just "blank out" the noise.
I know they're repetitive, but it doesn't bother me at all to be honest and I hear them everyday, neither have I seen anyone campaigning about them on the Cov Rd To be honest, i'd say it is a useful addition, the most I've seen is when I was on the X2 the other week and every time the doors closed and the bus announced "X2 to Yardley", people got were getting of as they didn't realise it was a short working.
What amazes me is that they hyrbids don't have announcements, even though they are just like the '15 MMCs
Quote from: Jack on January 23, 2019, 06:22:43 PM
It's annoying for a start, everytime the bus closes its doors, "50 to Druids Heath". It's gets on your nerves quite easily as it's repeated at a constant pace.
I'm sure people who have a daily commute on the routes with TfL soundalike announcements get sick of hearing them daily.
I quite often travel on buses or other modes with actual TfL or National Rail announcements - a choice of several different routes - the announcements really cease to be intrusive in a short space of time - just having the service number and destination announced when the bus leaves the stop, and the stop name of the next stop announced in advance and when you get to the stop is very useful and avoids lots of extraneous and unnecessary words - equally you cease to notice the warning noises when tram doors open or shut or the centre doors of buses open and shut or the announcements on tube trains down to advance warning of which side the doors will open - invaluable on a busy tube if you're not totally familiar with the journey unless directly applying to what you're doing. No doubt absolutely vital if you're making the journey for the first few times, are a visitor or are partially sighted or blind.
There are occassional cock ups in the announcements but not often - I catch a train currently which is announced as stopping at Beckenham Hill when it's Beckenham Junction (different line - stations several miles apart - spookily it does it correctly on the train itself). But the systems generally seem accurate.
As announcements seem to be a 100% feature on all modes in London, including in the leafy suburbs, I suspect everyone has become accustomed to them (as on trains around the country) the West Midlands buses ones appear a bit of a novelty (but no doubt very useful and should be rolled out ultimately to all buses). I guess all this is teething problems really.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on January 23, 2019, 02:53:57 PM
Also, will Mr Platinum replace the iconic tones of Judy on the 1 since a few of those are out of date?
Mr. Platinum is a voice actor. The 61/63 hybrids could also have announcements on them.
According
@Tony from Facebook 2006 is branded for the 2 and 2009 nearly done 2002-2011 will get the branding applied
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on January 23, 2019, 02:53:57 PM
Also, will Mr Platinum replace the iconic tones of Judy on the 1 since a few of those are out of date?
Judy? I always thought it was Kerry!
Quote from: Tiptonian on January 25, 2019, 11:55:42 AM
Judy? I always thought it was Kerry!
It is our lovely Kerry
The 10s are the next route to be branded as well as the 2s, the first one been done today
Quote from: John on January 27, 2019, 12:34:20 PM
The 10s are the next route to be branded as well as the 2s, the first one been done today
2071 has been done today, this was previously route branded for the 6 (Wolverhampton to Wobaston) before repaint.
Anyone know how many are gonna be branded for the 10
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on January 27, 2019, 04:35:40 PM
Anyone know how many are gonna be branded for the 10
2, 2070; 2071
2071 was originally branded for the 10, before that got removed and it was re branded for the 6
Do you think Wolverhampton garage will get new buses because of the 43**’s being withdrawn
Quote from: BH2004 on February 20, 2019, 12:44:53 AM
Do you think Wolverhampton garage will get new buses because of the 43**'s being withdrawn
Depends on what other areas priorities are(Emission zones etc!)
I suspect cascades personally, as Wolves last new buses were the Platties!
Quote from: Westy on February 20, 2019, 10:04:10 AM
Depends on what other areas priorities are(Emission zones etc!)
I suspect cascades personally, as Wolves last new buses were the Platties!
I could see the 1 going Platinum, which could allow the E400H's to move over to the 15/16/17, but then you'd also need cascades from elsewhere to replace the 43xx's on the 79 and other routes.
How much is daysaver plus to Stafford on the 54 thanks
Quote from: Solo1 on February 20, 2019, 09:06:04 PM
How much is daysaver plus to Stafford on the 54 thanks
£5
Quote from: 900 on February 20, 2019, 09:13:25 PM
£5
Wait, you're meant to get a higher priced one? The last time I did it was with a scratch off Daysaver I got sent by NX and the driver had no issues.
I've also just looked on the website and it has no mention of a Daysaver Plus, just a regular one which says 'all our buses', which would presumably cover the 54.
nope, you need a daysaver plus at £5 to go past i54 on 54, one of the measures needed to save the route. however mobile app, contactless and group are all valid.
Can all garages issue a 'Daysaver Plus'?
If I ask a Walsall driver for one, they will know how to find one?
2024 now 6 branded
2077 now debranded
Quote from: BN on February 21, 2019, 07:59:52 PM
2024 now 6 branded
2077 now debranded
@BN What other buses are being branded for the 6
Quote from: BN on February 21, 2019, 07:59:52 PM
2077 now debranded
Must be expected at the Walsall paintshop then.....
Just seen 2077 debranded from the 6 still got the name and NXWM Proudly serving Wolverhampton since 1900 in gold the bus is still in the red and white livery
2080 front destination sign is not working
54 peak board do they go into another service or back to depot thank you
What routes are operated by park lane?
@BusMan Greg the routes that are operated by park lane are
1 Dudley - Tettenhall Wood
2 Warstones - Bushbury Hill
3 Castlecroft - Fordhouses
4 Spring Hill - i54
5/5A Wolverhampton - Codsall
6/6A Wolverhampton - Wobaston
10/10A/10B Perton/Pattingham/Codsall - Wolverhampton
11 Wolverhampton - Underhill
15/15A Wolverhampton - Merry Hill
16 Wolverhampton - Stourbridge
17 Dudley - Stourbridge
25 Pendeford, Whitburn Close/Pendeford Business Park - Wolverhampton
32/33 Northwood Park - Wolverhampton
54/54A Wolverhampton- Stafford
59 Wolverhampton - Ashmore Park
62/62A Wolverhampton - Compton Square Circular
69 Wolverhampton - Walsall
79 Wolverhampton - West Bromwich
81 Wolverhampton - Merry Hill
82 Wolverhampton - Dudley
529 Wolverhampton - Walsall
X7/X8 Wolverhampton - Birmingham
Quote from: BH2004 on March 14, 2019, 06:59:18 PM
@BusMan Greg the routes that are operated by park lane are
1 Dudley - Tettenhall Wood
2 Warstones - Bushbury Hill
3 Castlecroft - Fordhouses
4 Spring Hill - i54
5/5A Wolverhampton - Codsall
6/6A Wolverhampton - Wobaston
10/10A/10B Perton/Pattingham/Codsall - Wolverhampton
11 Wolverhampton - Underhill
15/15A Wolverhampton - Merry Hill
16 Wolverhampton - Stourbridge
17 Dudley - Stourbridge
25 Pendeford, Whitburn Close/Pendeford Business Park - Wolverhampton
32/33 Northwood Park - Wolverhampton
54/54A Wolverhampton- Stafford
59 Wolverhampton - Ashmore Park
62/62A Wolverhampton - Compton Square Circular
69 Wolverhampton - Walsall
79 Wolverhampton - West Bromwich
81 Wolverhampton - Merry Hill
82 Wolverhampton - Dudley
529 Wolverhampton - Walsall
X7/X8 Wolverhampton - Birmingham
+8 school duties, some of which are available to the public.
Add the 60 (Wolverhampton to Bloxwich) and 61 (Wolverhampton-Goldthorn Park) from end of April.
Is lyndale park still served
Quote from: BusMan Greg on March 14, 2019, 08:56:45 PM
Is lyndale park still served
Lyndale Park has never been served by National Express. To answer your question... Igo's 57 service serves Lyndale.
Does anyone know when Wolverhampton garage buses are going into the new fonts for the destination signs
Quote from: BH2004 on March 22, 2019, 06:54:17 PM
Does anyone know when Wolverhampton garage buses are going into the new fonts for the destination signs
Well WB seem to have reverted back to the old ones again.
Quote from: MasterPlan on March 22, 2019, 08:03:34 PM
Well WB seem to have reverted back to the old ones again.
I've actually noticed them being used more, at least on the E200s on the 43/43A in Bilston.
Quote from: StourValley98 on March 22, 2019, 08:41:23 PM
I've actually noticed them being used more, at least on the E200s on the 43/43A in Bilston.
Well certainly those on the 74, 80/A and 82/87 seem to have reverted back to the old displays in general.
Quote from: MasterPlan on March 22, 2019, 08:52:36 PM
Well certainly those on the 74, 80/A and 82/87 seem to have reverted back to the old displays in general.
Have they? Nearly all of the 80 branded buses are using the new style for the numbers
Quote from: Sh4318 on March 24, 2019, 09:11:01 PM
Have they? Nearly all of the 80 branded buses are using the new style for the numbers
I've seen plenty of the 80/80ᴬ with the old style scrolling displays again, yes.
Quote from: MasterPlan on March 24, 2019, 09:15:50 PM
I've seen plenty of the 80/80ᴬ with the old style scrolling displays again, yes.
Ahh, my bad, I thought you were referring to the numbering. To my knowledge the scrolling displays were never removed from the 80 branded buses, happy to be corrected
Quote from: Sh4318 on March 24, 2019, 09:18:25 PM
Ahh, my bad, I thought you were referring to the numbering. To my knowledge the scrolling displays were never removed from the 80 branded buses, happy to be corrected
Yes they were. They used the newer static displays at one point, with the via points flicking between a couple of options. Now most of them seem to have gone back to the scrolling displays with the 80A using the bigger A again too.
Quote from: MasterPlan on March 24, 2019, 09:21:49 PM
Yes they were. They used the newer static displays at one point, with the via points flicking between a couple of options. Now most of them seem to have gone back to the scrolling displays with the 80A using the bigger A again too.
Hmm... I'm not sure about that one, maybe all the MK2 E400s, but not sure on 4914-4925, the only ones that spring to mind that display the old numbering are 4917, 4923. I'll keep an eye out for them, as I see them daily
Quote from: Sh4318 on March 25, 2019, 07:03:13 PM
Hmm... I'm not sure about that one, maybe all the MK2 E400s, but not sure on 4914-4925, the only ones that spring to mind that display the old numbering are 4917, 4923. I'll keep an eye out for them, as I see them daily
West Bromwich is a mixed bag between which ones display the scrolling and static displays, 4922 also features the old scrolling settings branded on the 80.
Bringing things back on topic, 2059-2062 have now gained dark green 5/5A branding; replacing 2120-2123 which are now debranded.
If anybody is chasing 4957, it's on the 15 - 10:50 from Wolverhampton to Merry Hill and so on.
I can't help but feel that these Enviro 400s are for the 59...
Anyone know what 4957 is on today
Quote from: 979 on April 12, 2019, 03:30:01 PM
79
Cheers.
As an aside, 4363 has just departed Dudley on a 1
Quote from: StourValley98 on April 14, 2019, 04:07:14 PM
6761 - WN79
From observation, the 32/33/79 has been Platinum MMC operated for the past 3-4 Sundays, i can only assume they've stopped using Tridents and this is now the norm as they do with the 15/16 & 59... using newer double deckers (E400hybrids and MMC's respectively)
Quote from: Nathan on April 14, 2019, 06:08:20 PM
From observation, the 32/33/79 has been Platinum MMC operated for the past 3-4 Sundays, i can only assume they've stopped using Tridents and this is now the norm as they do with the 15/16 & 59... using newer double deckers (E400hybrids and MMC's respectively)
Thanks correct Nathan, no Tridents on Sunday's now.
has there ever been trouble between travel express driver's and NatEx driver's on the 1's, 2's, 11's & 33's
Looks like the X7 is being withdrawn from 2nd June from the registration on VOSA.
The X7 has disapeared from where the current service numbers are shown on the registration (in the brackets) from that date, which now only shows X8.
Presumably that will free up some of the Platinums and another service will be converted to Platinums?
Quote from: 2206 on April 18, 2019, 11:37:15 PM
Looks like the X7 is being withdrawn from 2nd June from the registration on VOSA.
The X7 has disapeared of where the current service numbers are shown on the registration from that date.
Presumably that will free up some of the Platinums and another service will be converted to Platinums?
Unless there are bigger plans... hopefully extra X8 shorts between Wolverhampton and Dudley are introduced to keep the every 10 minute headway on that section.
Quote from: Nathan on April 18, 2019, 11:51:28 PM
Unless there are bigger plans... hopefully extra X8 shorts between Wolverhampton and Dudley are introduced to keep the every 10 minute headway on that section.
That's what I thought would be the most probable, since there's no way that section would work with the frequency halved. The 126 could also be extended back to Wolverhampton, but if my memory is right, it was curtailed to Dudley due to reliability issues.
Quote from: StourValley98 on April 19, 2019, 01:17:45 AM
That's what I thought would be the most probable, since there's no way that section would work with the frequency halved. The 126 could also be extended back to Wolverhampton, but if my memory is right, it was curtailed to Dudley due to reliability issues.
There is a variation to the 126 from the same date.
The Registration suggests it will still be Birmingham to Dudley on VOSA. With the X8 serving the Wolverhampton section.
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/bus/search/?text%5Bsearch%5D=WEST%20MIDLANDS%20TRAVEL%20LIMITED&filter%5BtrafficArea%5D=West%20Midlands&filter%5BbusRegStatus%5D=Variation&search=WEST%20MIDLANDS%20TRAVEL%20LIMITED&searchBy=&security=404b142484978d2edc3c55a7bda482b6-12f8170b3eec07f469c8fa3fa96cdf56
I'm just curious, what is the logic after the Dudley review of re numbering routes like the 120 to 2 digit i.e 12 but not doing the same with the 126 ( 15 i think was the proposal or 26 ). Just curious as to the inconsistencies, cheers.
6759 now back home.
I'd see some value in the X8 increasing frequency all the way through to Brum, up to every 15, especially with the 14 now cut back further, and perhaps an increase in the 81 or an 81A to cover Wolves - Dudley capacity
Any idea of what routes these E400's from WB are for
Quote from: BusMan Greg on April 26, 2019, 08:23:24 PM
Any idea of what routes these E400's from WB are for
15/16/17
Quote from: John on April 26, 2019, 08:24:17 PM
15/16/17
I come to the assumption they were coming for the 59's to replace the tridents
Quote from: BusMan Greg on April 26, 2019, 08:34:50 PM
I come to the assumption they were coming for the 59's to replace the tridents
There was never a suggestion those Tridents would come off the 59
Quote from: Nathan on April 26, 2019, 09:25:27 PM
There was never a suggestion those Tridents would come off the 59
They have all had LED destinations fitted as well to make them look uniform
Is the Daysaver Plus still a thing for the 54 to Stafford? And if so can you get these on the app?
Quote from: Kevin on May 02, 2019, 12:10:35 PM
Is the Daysaver Plus still a thing for the 54 to Stafford? And if so can you get these on the app?
If you use contact less you will only be charged a standard day saver not the plus
Quote from: Tony on May 02, 2019, 01:08:21 PM
If you use contact less you will only be charged a standard day saver not the plus
What about the Swift Paygo?
I normally get my Daysavers using that & get the discount.
Is there a similar discount on the Daysaver Plus?
Quote from: Westy on May 02, 2019, 01:39:54 PM
What about the Swift Paygo?
I normally get my Daysavers using that & get the discount.
Is there a similar discount on the Daysaver Plus?
No. The only way to avoid the day saver plus is contactless
Quote from: Tony on May 02, 2019, 01:08:21 PM
If you use contact less you will only be charged a standard day saver not the plus
So if I board a bus from another garage and attempt to buy one they would know what it is?
Quote from: Kevin on May 02, 2019, 03:02:10 PM
So if I board a bus from another garage and attempt to buy one they would know what it is?
Possibly. Not sold very much on services that don't cross Staffordshire.
Quote from: Tony on May 02, 2019, 01:49:17 PM
No. The only way to avoid the day saver plus is contactless
How about the scratch off Daysaver cards? I used one of those before to Stafford and back, without issue.
4921 is on the 2 this afternoon. I can only assume that's the latest transfer over to Park Lane.
Quote from: StourValley98 on May 02, 2019, 05:41:27 PM
How about the scratch off Daysaver cards? I used one of those before to Stafford and back, without issue.
Not valid and risk a £40 penalty fare.
Quote from: Tony on May 02, 2019, 05:47:49 PM
Not valid and risk a £40 penalty fare.
The driver when I got on in Stafford said that it was fine though? This was quite a while ago however.
Quote from: Dom on May 02, 2019, 03:34:59 PM
Possibly. Not sold very much on services that don't cross Staffordshire.
To answer my own question. X51 driver didn't have a clue what the Daysaver Plus was and couldn't find it on the system
Quote from: Kevin on May 04, 2019, 08:50:29 AM
To answer my own question. X51 driver didn't have a clue what the Daysaver Plus was and couldn't find it on the system
In all honesty, until I moved, I never knew what it was. I thought it was a shortcut for the Daysaver +1.
Does the 4 and the 6 interwork on a Sunday???
Quote from: BH2004 on May 05, 2019, 08:42:26 PM
Does the 4 and the 6 interwork on a Sunday???
Yes, on Sunday daytimes. The 6 on the other half of the hour interworks with the 3.
Do the later Sunday evening 60 journeys come off another route?
Can't see another reason there's an hour & a quarter's gap in service!
Quote from: Westy on May 05, 2019, 10:39:53 PM
Do the later Sunday evening 60 journeys come off another route?
Can't see another reason there's an hour & a quarter's gap in service!
No, it's one bus all day. Leaves Wolverhampton at 55 mins past the hour from 09:55 until 17:55, then the time shifts to 10 mins past the hour from 19:10 until 23:10. I presume the time shift would help the passengers are still able to make the connection in Bloxwich for the 9 or the 60 because both arrive and leave Bloxwich at the same time.
Is 2068 (Crimson) being route branded soon because it doesn't have an advert or National Express West Midlands on the back
That's the one another bus when went into at wn garage a few months back i think
Quote from: Jack6101 on May 12, 2019, 08:17:35 AM
That's the one another bus when went into at wn garage a few months back i think
Nah it's always been at WN
Quote from: BH2004 on May 12, 2019, 12:07:35 PM
Nah it's always been at WN
He is not on about it transferring into Wolverhampton.
It was one of the two buses involved in an accident in Wolverhampton garage, the other I think was an Enviro200
think it was 846 and 2068 involved
I heard there was a 68 reg platinum on the X7 today
Quote from: BusMan Greg on May 19, 2019, 06:35:34 PM
I heard there was a 68 reg platinum on the X7 today
Impossible.
Quote from: BusMan Greg on May 19, 2019, 06:35:34 PM
I heard there was a 68 reg platinum on the X7 today
Not sure who you 'heard' that from, but the X7/X8 today were 6776; 6777; 6780; 6781; 6787 & 6789
Quote from: Tony on May 19, 2019, 06:40:14 PM
Not sure who you 'heard' that from, but the X7/X8 today were 6776; 6777; 6780; 6781; 6787 & 6789
Also the X7 doesn't run on Sundays. So its impossible.
Those would have only been on the X8.
Quote from: Tony on May 19, 2019, 06:40:14 PM
Not sure who you 'heard' that from, but the X7/X8 today were 6776; 6777; 6780; 6781; 6787 & 6789
I can't remember who, but someone did post it on Facebook earlier today.
Quote from: StourValley98 on May 19, 2019, 08:03:00 PM
I can't remember who, but someone did post it on Facebook earlier today.
Facebook is inaccurate most times, unless it comes from a decent source.
6783 and another platinum seem to be debranded. Why is this?
Quote from: BusMan Greg on May 20, 2019, 05:16:34 PM
6783 and another platinum seem to be debranded. Why is this?
The X7 is being withdrawn from 2nd June.
Extra journeys on the X8 are being introduced between Dudley and Wolverhampton.
Quote from: 2206 on May 20, 2019, 05:23:07 PM
The X7 is being withdrawn from 2nd June.
Extra journeys on the X8 are being introduced between Dudley and Wolverhampton.
And new X8 branding will be applied
What are the names of the different rota's at park lane garage. ie Wombourne rota 15, 16 and 17
Quote from: BusMan Greg on May 25, 2019, 11:19:49 AM
What are the names of the different rota's at park lane garage. ie Wombourne rota 15, 16 and 17
Pendeford- 3, 4, 6
Wombourne- 2, 15/16/17,
Staffordshire- 5, 10, 54/A
Birmingham- (unless they've changed the name)- X7/X8, 32/33
Walsall- 59, 60, 69, 529
Bilston- 25, 27/A, 79, 81, 82
1 - 1
I'm personally not sure where the 11, 61 & 62 fit in and i may have missed out one or two things.
11 is on the Bolton Rota I think
Quote from: BusMan Greg on May 25, 2019, 01:01:00 PM
11 is on the Bolton Rota I think
Bolton???
Have NX bought First Manchester Bolton depot?
Bilston Rota
I wonder if Wolverhampton garage will be getting new platinums if they do I think they will go on 1 or 79
Quote from: BH2004 on May 31, 2019, 08:20:43 PM
I wonder if Wolverhampton garage will be getting new platinums if they do I think they will go on 1 or 79
Haven't you noticed some have just transferred out?
4925 on WN 15. Transfer?
Also 4926 on 16/17.
Quote from: BH2004 on June 07, 2019, 08:07:00 AM
6794-WN54
That'll be a morning peak board, so no run out to Stafford. Just the i54 business park
Have any Platties made it to Stafford?
once a platinum went to Stafford, 4002 went 2nd week on sat evening, and I believe a b6 and trident also
Quote from: mranon on June 07, 2019, 08:15:31 PM
once a platinum went to Stafford, 4002 went 2nd week on sat evening, and I believe a b6 and trident also
I have a photo of B6LE 620 in Stafford on the 54 which I took in August 2015. Never seen a decker in Stafford yet on the 54, but don't see it as often as I used to now since it stopped going past my office window!
Quote from: mranon on June 07, 2019, 08:15:31 PM
once a platinum went to Stafford, 4002 went 2nd week on sat evening, and I believe a b6 and trident also
I will never forget seeing 620 going around Wolverhampton Bus Station and saw it parked up at Stand D. Then noticed the number blinds changed to 54. I sprinted around to get on 620.
Here's my pic of 620 on 54: https://flic.kr/p/UZrAfB
Here's my video of 620 on 54: https://youtu.be/kiX55JsNedc
Here's my pic of 6791 on 54: https://flic.kr/p/R9MpoB
Quote from: mranon on June 07, 2019, 08:15:31 PM
once a platinum went to Stafford, 4002 went 2nd week on sat evening, and I believe a b6 and trident also
I believe 555 (Scooby Doo) also made it to Stafford.
Is 846 going into the crimson livery?
Quote from: BH2004 on June 08, 2019, 02:30:11 PM
Is 846 going into the crimson livery?
No. It's back from RTC repairs, it was on the 27 a few days ago.
Has WN had some 210*'s transferred over seen few photos of them on 16
Quote from: BH2004 on June 08, 2019, 10:23:11 PM
Has WN had some 210*'s transferred over seen few photos of them on 16
No they have not 210*s are Pensnett they operate one 16 journey starting from wall heath to Stourbridge then goes on to the 8s
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on June 08, 2019, 10:56:50 PM
No they have not 210*s are Pensnett they operate one 16 journey starting from wall heath to Stourbridge then goes on to the 8s
Does a 16 from Wall Heath to Stourbridge then runs dead back to Kingswinford to do a other 16 to Stourbridge
Quote from: pndriver on June 09, 2019, 11:21:39 AM
Does a 16 from Wall Heath to Stourbridge then runs dead back to Kingswinford to do a other 16 to Stourbridge
Nah I think it might go onto the 7 or 8
Quote from: BH2004 on June 09, 2019, 11:58:57 AM
Nah I think it might go onto the 7 or 8
@pndriver is correct. It goes onto the 8 after it's second run into Stourbridge.
Quote from: Nathan on May 20, 2019, 06:54:01 PM
And new X8 branding will be applied
This is the new style branding, 6779 is being done now.
850 is the vehicle being used on the first day of operation on the TfWM tendered service 50 (Wolverhampton to Wednesfield)
What platinums are being branded for the X8
Quote from: BH2004 on June 18, 2019, 09:57:35 PM
What platinums are being branded for the X8
The platinums that were previously branded for the X7 and X8
Quote from: BusMan Greg on June 19, 2019, 05:01:15 PM
The platinums that were previously branded for the X7 and X8
No, not all
Potential for WN buses in Wollaston from Monday....
Quote from: the trainbasher on June 20, 2019, 12:42:39 PM
Potential for WN buses in Wollaston from Monday....
what route would this be
Quote from: BH2004 on June 20, 2019, 12:57:37 PM
what route would this be
16/17 as road works happening in stourbridge
Or they could divert them up through the penfields estate down by vicarage corbetts hospital right on to main route
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on June 20, 2019, 01:30:34 PM
Or they could divert them up through the penfields estate down by vicarage corbetts hospital right on to main route
Which is what we're now doing.
Quote from: CL on June 24, 2019, 12:07:41 PM
4353 - WN27A
One runnng board on the 27 is booked as a Trident.
Noticed a new bunch of 80x services for the Wolverhampton area on bustimes.org have been registered.
Are these to be similar to the 801/2 YW routes
Quote from: the trainbasher on June 25, 2019, 04:34:03 PM
Noticed a new bunch of 80x services for the Wolverhampton area on bustimes.org have been registered.
Are these to be similar to the 801/2 YW routes
Could be wrong but looking at it, they do look like the staff buses that have been registered
What are the 801/2 anyway? All I've seen is that they run at might
Quote from: mesub on June 25, 2019, 09:44:32 PM
What are the 801/2 anyway? All I've seen is that they run at might
Most likely staff buses the general public can also use
Quote from: mesub on June 25, 2019, 09:44:32 PM
What are the 801/2 anyway? All I've seen is that they run at might
801 and 802 are Yardley Wood Bus Garage Circulars:
https://nxbus.co.uk/routes/west-midlands/B801/?tab=
https://nxbus.co.uk/routes/west-midlands/B802/?tab=
Dooes anybody have any photos of a bus doing the route
Quote from: mesub on June 27, 2019, 05:04:22 PM
Dooes anybody have any photos of a bus doing the route
I doubt many bus spotters are out photographing buses at that time of the morning! ;D
What's happened to 2079 I haven't seen it in ages
Quote from: BH2004 on June 29, 2019, 07:48:05 PM
What's happened to 2079 I haven't seen it in ages
You want to check the repaint list before posting in future:
Vehicles currently in paint
AG: -
BC: - 4897
BY: - nil
PB: - nil
YW: - 4730
WA: -
WB: - 4917; 4920
WN: - 2123;
2079PN: - 2108
CV: - 2153; 4886; 4663; 4672
Training: - 4257; 4258
Heritage: - 3035; 3997
Is the X8 branding complete? Saw a branded X8 in Blackheath when driving 4M, it looked a bit bare on the offside.
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 06, 2019, 09:53:13 PM
Is the X8 branding complete? Saw a branded X8 in Blackheath when driving 4M, it looked a bit bare on the offside.
I think there putting some advert frames on them
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 06, 2019, 09:53:13 PM
Is the X8 branding complete? Saw a branded X8 in Blackheath when driving 4M, it looked a bit bare on the offside.
6 left to do. Advert frames are being fitted as well, 3 done so far.
For the advert fans... 4536, 4537, 4539, 4540 & 4541 all have mega rear ads for Avaliablecar .com. I'm going to assume 4538 has been done too.
Quote from: Nathan on July 09, 2019, 08:28:03 AM
For the advert fans... 4536, 4537, 4539, 4540 & 4541 all have mega rear ads for Avaliablecar .com. I'm going to assume 4538 has been done too.
There's going to be about 50 of them
Quote from: Nathan on July 09, 2019, 08:28:03 AM
For the advert fans... 4536, 4537, 4539, 4540 & 4541 all have mega rear ads for Avaliablecar .com. I'm going to assume 4538 has been done too.
4557; 4558; 4559 for today as well.
As several of the 59 branded buses (4557-4559, 4561) have received the availablecar.com branding is it likely that the 59 is receiving new vehicles?
Quote from: nathanielrwi on July 12, 2019, 08:43:55 PM
As several of the 59 branded buses (4557-4559, 4561) have received the availablecar.com branding is it likely that the 59 is receiving new vehicles?
All of them are having the adverts, no the branding isn't being taken off the sides
Quote from: nathanielrwi on July 12, 2019, 08:43:55 PM
As several of the 59 branded buses (4557-4559, 4561) have received the availablecar.com branding is it likely that the 59 is receiving new vehicles?
Quote from: Tony on July 12, 2019, 08:47:19 PM
All of them are having the adverts, no the branding isn't being taken off the sides
All of 4557-64 (in fact all 45**'s are complete with the ads now) are complete. Talking of which, i assume 4564 was in depot to have it's ad finished off today. It was on an afternoon peak board on the 69 earlier.
Quote from: Nathan on July 12, 2019, 09:18:25 PM
All of 4557-64 (in fact all 45**'s are complete with the ads now) are complete. Talking of which, i assume 4564 was in depot to have it's ad finished off today. It was on an afternoon peak board on the 69 earlier.
Except 4535 before anyone asks, That's currently at Graysons for euro6 conversion
Are the ads and branding etc likely to stay on the buses until they're withdrawn now?
Wolves is a bit of a weak spot for me in this region, so, I'm asking here for some advice on their Tridents...
Looking through the spreadsheet I've noted that
10B, 11, 16, 59, 79, 82 are allocated Tridents, and 1, 15, 17, 25, 54, 69 can see a few too. Could anyone confirm this for me please and advise is there any booked workings that are Tridents on routes not normally the mainstream of the type (eg off school services)
Many Thanks
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on July 15, 2019, 04:14:39 PM
Wolves is a bit of a weak spot for me in this region, so, I'm asking here for some advice on their Tridents...
Looking through the spreadsheet I've noted that
10B, 11, 16, 59, 79, 82 are allocated Tridents, and 1, 15, 17, 25, 54, 69 can see a few too. Could anyone confirm this for me please and advise is there any booked workings that are Tridents on routes not normally the mainstream of the type (eg off school services)
Many Thanks
@Nathan would be your best port of call Dylan
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on July 15, 2019, 04:14:39 PM
Wolves is a bit of a weak spot for me in this region, so, I'm asking here for some advice on their Tridents...
Looking through the spreadsheet I've noted that
10B, 11, 16, 59, 79, 82 are allocated Tridents, and 1, 15, 17, 25, 54, 69 can see a few too. Could anyone confirm this for me please and advise is there any booked workings that are Tridents on routes not normally the mainstream of the type (eg off school services)
Many Thanks
Main Allocations
E200: 11, 27/27A, 32/33, 54/A, 61, 62/A, 81
Eclipse 2: 2, 3, 4, 5/A, 6/A, 10, 11, 25, 32/33, 60
Trident 2: 11, 15, 16, 17, 32/33, 59, 69, 79, 82
E400: 15/A, 16, 17
E400H: 1, (2, 15A, 16 Sunday's and sometimes in the week)
E400MMC platinum: 529, X8
I've noticed in the past few weeks, the booked Trident on the 10 (and 10B) has stopped appearing. I'm not sure if this is a permanant thing or the reason why but it's been a B7RLE in recent weeks from observation.
The 5/5A has 2 Tridents booked on it Monday to Friday (there are changes to the 5 in a few weeks so i'm not sure if it'll change). One is an all day board (apart from first thing in the morning and a small gap in the afternoon when it does both an AM & PM school run), the second comes off the 11 mid afternoon, does a school then goes onto the 5 for a couple of trips starting with the 16:50 ex Wolves. The 27A also has a Trident booked on it off peak. It goes off to do a school in the afternoon then another route (the bus on the 61 replaces it on the 15:05 27A from Wolves onwards). The 2's afternoon peak bus is booked as a Trident as it comes off a school.. although it's allocated whatever decker is going spare usually. The 25 has one Trident booked during the week, presumably to cover a busy trip that passes a school. The Trident on the 54 (E) is the afternoon bus that slots in between i54 and Wolves only (in that direction only, before running private back to i54 and doing the same again).
Pretty much what's been posted above by
@BH2004 is accurate (saved me a job 😂). The 1 & 529 often see Tridents on a regular basis too, especially during the morning and afternoon peak. The 15/16/17 are still seeing a number of Tridents daily. The 11 is mostly Trident, the 59 & 79 are 'meant' to be fully Trident, the 69 & 82 are part Trident/part B7RLE operation (more Tridents than B7RLE on the 82 though), the 32 & 33 seem to be a mix of B7RLE and Tridents too.
Just been hearing about a couple of RTC's in Wolves involving newly "trained" drivers.
Also still waiting on the Park Lane cleaners to get over their dust allergies. The B7RLE's particularly the 3/4 brandeds are disguisting inside and despite numerous complaints we still put up with grimy takeaway tobacco packet type buses.
Should send some Diamond buses to Castlecroft instead!
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on July 16, 2019, 11:05:24 PM
Just been hearing about a couple of RTC's in Wolves involving newly "trained" drivers.
Also still waiting on the Park Lane cleaners to get over their dust allergies. The B7RLE's particularly the 3/4 brandeds are disguisting inside and despite numerous complaints we still put up with grimy takeaway tobacco packet type buses.
Should send some Diamond buses to Castlecroft instead!
I agree I think diamond should be on 3/4 on evenings and Sunday's although I do like seeing nxwm on the 3/4 but it would be nice for a change
4535 out in service on the 79 today. First day out since conversion to Euro 6
Quote from: Tony on July 19, 2019, 10:29:02 AM
4535 out in service on the 79 today. First day out since conversion to Euro 6
We'll get it in B'ham one day.
Quote from: BN on July 19, 2019, 12:08:50 PM
We'll get it in B'ham one day.
Is that after it has been racing at the Millbrook test track?
Quote from: Tony on July 19, 2019, 12:10:28 PM
Is that after it has been racing at the Millbrook test track?
Maybe before, Millbrook 25/26th, then PN 27th.
Is the WN1 ever going to receive route branding again?
Just seen a 16 go down Tower Street on its way into the bus station instead of going the normal route down Bilston Street, presumably to avoid the traffic. Not sure that's allowed??
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on July 23, 2019, 03:18:06 PM
Just seen a 16 go down Tower Street on its way into the bus station instead of going the normal route down Bilston Street, presumably to avoid the traffic. Not sure that's allowed??
Probably told to by AVL
Quote from: John on July 23, 2019, 04:39:17 PM
Probably told to by AVL
Then how come all the other buses were following the normal line of route?
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on July 23, 2019, 04:58:59 PM
Then how come all the other buses were following the normal line of route?
You didn't mention that did you?
Quote from: John on July 23, 2019, 09:18:19 PM
You didn't mention that did you?
I would have said that in my original post. Besides, I wouldn't have posted this anyway if all the buses were going down Tower Street.
4356 on the 60 earlier - only the second time I've seen a Trident on the 60 since it replaced the WA89!
Quote from: nathanielrwi on July 23, 2019, 10:30:00 PM
4356 on the 60 earlier - only the second time I've seen a Trident on the 60 since it replaced the WA89!
3 of the 4 buses on the 60 were Tridents yesterday (4320, 4345 & 4356). 4314 and 4325 were on there on Monday. I suspect it might be the norm over the six weeks holiday.
Quote from: Nathan on July 24, 2019, 08:30:12 AM
3 of the 4 buses on the 60 were Tridents yesterday (4320, 4345 & 4356). 4314 and 4325 were on there on Monday. I suspect it might be the norm over the six weeks holiday.
Another 02 reg trident on today - didn't catch the fleet number
Which 67** been X8 branded this is for my fleet list
I ain't sure about 6775 but all of 6776-90 am , i know 6773/4 ain't don't think they will get branded
Quote from: BH2004 on July 24, 2019, 07:05:55 PM
Which 67** been X8 branded this is for my fleet list
6775-6787.
What's happening with the ex X7/X8 branded buses that haven't been rebranded for the X8?
If they're still at Wolverhampton they'll be available for the 529 too....
Quote from: nathanielrwi on July 27, 2019, 01:20:21 PM
What's happening with the ex X7/X8 branded buses that haven't been rebranded for the X8?
Avaliable to be used where needed... in particular the X8 & 529, plus 59 on Saturdays and Sundays.
I seen a platinum on the 15 today too
Not sure on rarity if these so just popping them in here
5419 & 6795 on 79
Quote from: Nathan on July 27, 2019, 04:31:13 PM
Avaliable to be used where needed... in particular the X8 & 529, plus 59 on Saturdays and Sundays.
Didn't word my initial question very well - I meant as they currently haven't received full platinum livery will they receive the new livery with the red diamonds or old livery with the red line at the top?
Quote from: BusMan Greg on July 27, 2019, 07:57:28 PM
I seen a platinum on the 15 today too
There's usually one on there so not unusual to see.
On the odd occasion I have seen platinums on the 54's
Quote from: BusMan Greg on July 27, 2019, 09:01:55 PM
On the odd occasion I have seen platinums on the 54's
The afternoon working that comes off a school, can be pretty much any decker going spare. It does two i54 to Wolverhampton trips (inbound only) and doesn't go over the Staffordshire border. Double deckers do not get to Stafford (only a couple have snuck there in the time the 54 has been operating.
There seems to be a few more Platinums going spare since the changes (especially on a Saturday when the PVR is lower)
Quote from: Nathan on July 27, 2019, 09:20:17 PM
The afternoon working that comes off a school, can be pretty much any decker going spare. It does two i54 to Wolverhampton trips (inbound only) and doesn't go over the Staffordshire border. Double deckers do not get to Stafford (only a couple have snuck there in the time the 54 has been operating.
There seems to be a few more Platinums going spare since the changes (especially on a Saturday when the PVR is lower)
I did once see a trident on the 54 to Stafford
Quote from: Nathan on July 27, 2019, 09:20:17 PM
The afternoon working that comes off a school, can be pretty much any decker going spare. It does two i54 to Wolverhampton trips (inbound only) and doesn't go over the Staffordshire border. Double deckers do not get to Stafford (only a couple have snuck there in the time the 54 has been operating.
There seems to be a few more Platinums going spare since the changes (especially on a Saturday when the PVR is lower)
What's the strangest thing that has appeared on the 54?
Quote from: BusMan Greg on July 27, 2019, 09:26:07 PM
What's the strangest thing that has appeared on the 54?
A trident.
Quote from: BusMan Greg on July 27, 2019, 09:26:07 PM
What's the strangest thing that has appeared on the 54?
6791. Something happened between Wolverhampton and Stafford on the trains a couple of years ago.. to cope with the demand; a bus and driver coming in off a 255 (now the 15) covered a round trip to Stafford to cope with the demand. I believe 4585 once got to Stafford too (breaking down along the way, again... a couple of years ago).
A small handful of Volvo B6LE/Wright Crusaders made it to Stafford during their later days.
I do remember seeing a picture of a platinum at Wolverhampton Stafford street on the 54 which looked rather busy
Quote from: BusMan Greg on July 28, 2019, 11:13:38 AM
I do remember seeing a picture of a platinum at Wolverhampton Stafford street on the 54 which looked rather busy
there was once a rare occurance where a platinum went to Stafford, as there had been no buses for 2 hours due to severe winds bringing trees down on both 54 and the old 154 route. other than the usual e200s, and b7s, there has been spectra 4002 go all the way to Stafford, a trident 45xx iirc, and b6 620. any double decker of all types have seen the pm "dodgers" after the school service where they just run between i54 jlr stop through to wolves
Having been following route 1 since I started buses in January I have seen all of 5401-5421 except 5409 & 5412. I believe 5409 could be down to it being rebuilt from hybrid electric bus status? (forgive me I am a newcomer) but 5412? am I just repeatedly unlucky?
Quote from: MARKG on August 01, 2019, 11:35:03 PM
Having been following route 1 since I started buses in January I have seen all of 5401-5421 except 5409 & 5412. I believe 5409 could be down to it being rebuilt from hybrid electric bus status? (forgive me I am a newcomer) but 5412? am I just repeatedly unlucky?
5412 is long term VOR. It hasn't been on the road for nearly a year.
Quote from: Nathan on August 02, 2019, 12:36:25 AM
5412 is long term VOR. It hasn't been on the road for nearly a year.
Why is 5412 on long term vor
I think I heard somewhere that's the next vechiele after 5409 comes back
Thanks for the information regarding 5412. Is 5409's return imminent?
2014 needs to have a good clean especially the back and around the destination you can just about see what's on the destination
Just seen by warstones timesaver bus don't know it's fleet number but
Quote from: BH2004 on August 03, 2019, 04:50:37 PM
Just seen by warstones timesaver bus don't know it's fleet number but
Either 2912 if Silver or 2957 if it was in French Blue & Gold
@BH2004
Quote from: Squiz1971 on August 03, 2019, 06:57:59 PM
Either 2912 if Silver or 2957 if it was in French Blue & Gold @BH2004
I think it was 2957
4934 on the 60 - is this the first time there's been an E400 on the 60?
Quote from: nathanielrwi on August 04, 2019, 02:16:56 PM
4934 on the 60 - is this the first time there's been an E400 on the 60?
I believe an ex WB E400 appeared on there a few weeks ago but I might be wrong
Quote from: nathanielrwi on August 04, 2019, 02:16:56 PM
4934 on the 60 - is this the first time there's been an E400 on the 60?
No, there was one on it a couple of weeks ago.
4927 was allocated last Sunday, but was swapped after half a trip for a 3/4 branded B7RLE. It was 4931 the Sunday before that, so i'd say that's the allocation for the Sunday 60 now.
Quote from: Nathan on August 04, 2019, 05:40:53 PM
4927 was allocated last Sunday, but was swapped after half a trip for a 3/4 branded B7RLE. It was 4931 the Sunday before that, so i'd say that's the allocation for the Sunday 60 now.
Do you reckon they'll ever have a 59/60 branded set of buses like they used to with the 559/560?
2001 SITWM been a visitor to Dudley today on the 27 you don't see that bus much over the Black Country
4924 on WN 16/17. Presumably the latest transfer.
Quote from: Roy on August 17, 2019, 09:12:55 AM
4924 on WN 16/17. Presumably the latest transfer.
Yes that's correct Roy, 4937 will also be coming over next week.
It was nice to see WM in the highfields estate in stafford today
Quote from: BusMan Greg on August 19, 2019, 12:07:18 PM
It was nice to see WM in the highfields estate in stafford today
What was it there for?
Quote from: l.murphy123 on August 20, 2019, 12:22:23 AM
What was it there for?
Diversion as the council decided to resurface the Wolves road resulting in all traffic being sent through the Highfields estate
Travelling through Tettenhall last night, I noticed a Trident on the WN1 service with the following destination:
1E Wolverhampton
<<Part Route Only>>
Is this a standard destination display for all E workings or just on WN1?
Quote from: Wumpty on August 21, 2019, 12:01:03 PM
Travelling through Tettenhall last night, I noticed a Trident on the WN1 service with the following destination:
1E Wolverhampton
<<Part Route Only>>
Is this a standard destination display for all E workings or just on WN1?
Can't speak for WN, but I've seen this for the 87, at WB. Albeit an MK1 E400
Quote from: Wumpty on August 21, 2019, 12:01:03 PM
Travelling through Tettenhall last night, I noticed a Trident on the WN1 service with the following destination:
1E Wolverhampton
<<Part Route Only>>
Is this a standard destination display for all E workings or just on WN1?
Yes, it is standard now.
The 54 branded E200's seem to be appearing everywhere at the moment.
Quote from: BusMan Greg on August 29, 2019, 08:21:44 PM
The 54 branded E200's seem to be appearing everywhere at the moment.
The Staffords have had extra capacity of B7RLEs during the school holidays
Has 4923 been transferred to park lane?
5412 has been driving round the yard under its own steam, first time in over a year.
Someone tried to bring a supermarket trolley onto the 529 in Willenhall this evening haha!!
Are 5408 - 5421 going to be rebranded?
An unidentified platinum bus has been roaming around the Featherstone & Brinsford area today. Does anyone know what it was doing? Best guess is that some drivers where learning the school route 854
Quote from: BusMan Greg on October 26, 2019, 10:07:20 AM
An unidentified platinum bus has been roaming around the Featherstone & Brinsford area today. Does anyone know what it was doing? Best guess is that some drivers where learning the school route 854
Believed it is the 868 going back to WA. Did the platinum have wheels of alloys?
Why would the 868 be in Featherstone?
Quote from: BusMan Greg on October 26, 2019, 11:18:46 AM
Why would the 868 be in Featherstone?
Isn't it by Cheslyn hay?
the 868 goes to Essington
Hope the 529 keeps Mr Platinum not a fan of the new voice.
Anyone know the 59 is going to be rerouted back to its old route down pipers row and Broad Street when the tram roadworks are finished?
Quote from: nathanielrwi on October 27, 2019, 11:52:26 PM
Anyone know the 59 is going to be rerouted back to its old route down pipers row and Broad Street when the tram roadworks are finished?
No, The 59 & 60 were permanantly rerouted to leave the station via the Ring Road
2084 and 2089 back destination isn't working they have the dead pixel on
What's happens to 2071 haven't seen it for a while
Quote from: BH2004 on November 01, 2019, 09:32:21 PM
What's happens to 2071 haven't seen it for a while
VOR adblue fault
Not sure which thread to use but as it was a Park Lane bus , I saw 6429 / [ NOC429R ] / KIW6356 yesterday afternoon passing through Bromsgrove. :)
Quote from: B61 ANDREW on November 02, 2019, 11:40:07 AM
Not sure which thread to use but as it was a Park Lane bus , I saw 6429 / [ NOC429R ] / KIW6356 yesterday afternoon passing through Bromsgrove. :)
Now owned by Promarco Promotions of Dudley, this was the former Beacon Radio Sound Machine bus they bought for roadshows and outside broadcasts. It is kept at a storage yard in Darlaston and is still going strong - it still has the Beacon Radio logo in the upstairs dressing room!
https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8175%2F8071756574_0bd07aca33_b.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fpicssr.com%2Fphotos%2Fje1791%2Fpage632%3Fnsid%3D60813705%40N04&docid=Tq81IFAbFoo8HM&tbnid=w4jwHfaD4wonHM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwjptbmGqdDlAhWHr6QKHflmCgwQMwhXKBMwEw..i&w=1024&h=668&safe=active&bih=969&biw=1920&q=KIW6356&ved=0ahUKEwjptbmGqdDlAhWHr6QKHflmCgwQMwhXKBMwEw&iact=mrc&uact=8
Half of National Express buses in Wolverhampton are now environmentally friendly!
https://www.expressandstar.com/news/local-hubs/wolverhampton/2019/11/06/half-of-national-express-buses-in-wolverhampton-are-now-environmentally-friendly/
Quote from: Wumpty on November 06, 2019, 03:35:31 PM
Half of National Express buses in Wolverhampton are now environmentally friendly!
https://www.expressandstar.com/news/local-hubs/wolverhampton/2019/11/06/half-of-national-express-buses-in-wolverhampton-are-now-environmentally-friendly/
The press release said half of the NXWM fleet, not WN particularly, but WN is actually quite a way above 50%
When are WN buses having there names back on?
Quote from: BH2004 on November 07, 2019, 08:44:13 PM
When are WN buses having there names back on?
Soon. The chap foing it cannot do every garage in a night. He did bordesley today
The next stop annocenments on 6775 have now been updated to the new style ( says X8 Birmingham )
Quote from: Jack6101 on November 09, 2019, 02:53:16 PM
The next stop annocenments on 6775 have now been updated to the new style ( says X8 Birmingham )
Is it Mr Platinum or Mrs Platinum?
What are the names of 2024 - 2029
Quote from: BH2004 on November 09, 2019, 04:20:09 PM
What are the names of 2024 - 2029
@BH2004 - All names are on Tony's fleetlist on the main site if you look.
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/fleetlist/2001-2152.html
Quote from: l.murphy123 on November 09, 2019, 04:18:52 PM
Is it Mr Platinum or Mrs Platinum?
'Mrs Platinum', if that's what some refer to it as. The 529 have also been updated.
Quote from: Nathan on November 09, 2019, 06:25:55 PM
'Mrs Platinum', if that's what some refer to it as. The 529 have also been updated.
It's MRS platinum mate
Was on the 1 recently and an unbranded platinum was on it and it had next stop announcements - are there plans for the 1 to go platinum in the near future?
Quote from: nathanielrwi on November 09, 2019, 08:10:32 PM
Was on the 1 recently and an unbranded platinum was on it and it had next stop announcements - are there plans for the 1 to go platinum in the near future?
Those announcements are nowhere near as good as the Hybrids... it's a shame that they couldn't justify the Platinum routes' announcements by area, e.g. the Walsall Platinums/Wolves Platinums with Black Country accents and BC Platinums with Birmingham accents etc...
Quote from: Jack on November 09, 2019, 08:13:04 PM
Those announcements are nowhere near as good as the Hybrids... it's a shame that they couldn't justify the Platinum routes' announcements by area, e.g. the Walsall Platinums/Wolves Platinums with Black Country accents and BC Platinums with Birmingham accents etc...
In regards to your comment about the platinum announcements, the announcements on the number 1 are alot better as they are voiced by the depot manager (who indeed has a black country accent). This reminds me of the days when each garage was it's own corporation. I believe every depot should do something like this as each platinum route would be alot more personalised to the areas that are served.
Quote from: BusMan Greg on November 09, 2019, 10:18:58 PM
In regards to your comment about the platinum announcements, the announcements on the number 1 are alot better as they are voiced by the depot manager (who indeed has a black country accent). This reminds me of the days when each garage was it's own corporation. I believe every depot should do something like this as each platinum route would be alot more personalised to the areas that are served.
The 222 E200's had Black Country accents and up until recently the 4 branded Omnilinks had them but they've recently been removed out of the blue.
2001 has just passed through Walsall Bus Station carrying the blind 'X61 Wolverhampton, via Walsall'
Is this a works service?
(best photo I could get, considering where the sun was facing!)
Quote from: CL on November 11, 2019, 11:04:36 AM
2001 has just passed through Walsall Bus Station carrying the blind 'X61 Wolverhampton, via Walsall'
Is this a works service?
(best photo I could get, considering where the sun was facing!)
Yes, it's the Wolverhampton to Boots Distribution Centre in Burton Upon Trent. Midland Classic appear to have runs on it too, i saw one of their E200's on Bilston Street island a few Sunday evenings ago. Select Bus Services have run it in previous years.
Quote from: Nathan on November 11, 2019, 11:20:12 AM
Yes, it's the Wolverhampton to Boots Distribution Centre in Burton Upon Trent. Midland Classic appear to have runs on it too, i saw one of their E200's on Bilston Street island a few Sunday evenings ago. Select Bus Services have run it in previous years.
Cheers :) had to do a double take to see if I was seeing things! 😂
Quote from: Jack6101 on November 09, 2019, 06:44:14 PM
It's MRS platinum mate
Noooo prefer MR and its so annoying hearing the route name everytime the bus stops.
Mr platinum was better. His voice felt like it matched the colours of the vehicle, why they changed to be like London I'm not sure.
Quote from: mesub on November 11, 2019, 09:31:31 PM
Mr platinum was better. His voice felt like it matched the colours of the vehicle, why they changed to be like London I'm not sure.
Because the London bus announcements are well done that's why.
The last couple of early evenings I have seen the X61 and 180 the Alderley Stadium shuttle.
Whats happening at the stadium for the shuttle bus to be required?
Quote from: Dutsey on November 14, 2019, 03:04:04 PM
The last couple of early evenings I have seen the X61 and 180 the Alderley Stadium shuttle.
Whats happening at the stadium for the shuttle bus to be required?
Grand Slam Of Darts. A very apt number i should say.
Quote from: Nathan on November 14, 2019, 03:11:35 PM
Grand Slam Of Darts. A very apt number i should say.
Shame they're not running Darts or Javelins on it!
Quote from: Wumpty on November 14, 2019, 03:26:12 PM
Shame they're not running Darts or Javelins on it!
They could always have asked Travel Express 😂
When's 730 expected to be out in service?
Does anyone know whats happened to 6790 i haven't seen it for a while unless im blind as a bat and keep missing it
Cheers
Quote from: 900 on November 22, 2019, 05:09:36 PM
Does anyone know whats happened to 6790 i haven't seen it for a while unless im blind as a bat and keep missing it
Cheers
Currently on the 529
About the ex-Dundee hybrids, will they be converted to Euro 6 diesel like the current Wolverhampton crop or will they remain electric?
2088 now back from paint, last red and white B7 (2142) gone in now.
Apparently the 854 and 868 school services have been cancelled.
Quote from: BusMan Greg on December 10, 2019, 04:17:36 PM
Apparently the 854 and 868 school services have been cancelled.
There's no apparently about it, they have been cancelled it was published in N&P dated 29th Nov, so were cancelled before that date:
Bottom page 11:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/849734/np-2424-29-november-2019.pdf.pdf
Quote from: Winston on December 10, 2019, 05:41:40 PM
There's no apparently about it, they have been cancelled it was published in N&P dated 29th Nov, so were cancelled before that date:
Bottom page 11:
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/849734/np-2424-29-november-2019.pdf.pdf
They have been cancelled effective 5th Jan 2020 according to N&P.
Quote from: busfan2847 on December 10, 2019, 07:08:43 PM
They have been cancelled effective 5th Jan 2020 according to N&P.
I know, the date quoted is the date the cancellations were advised not implemented. As they're school services I'm assuming they'll actually finish end of term 2019 (circa 20th Dec)
Quote from: Winston on December 10, 2019, 07:12:24 PM
I know, the date quoted is the date the cancellations were advised not implemented. As they're school services I'm assuming they'll actually finish end of term 2019 (circa 20th Dec)
Who's taking them on?
Quote from: BusMan Greg on December 10, 2019, 07:14:39 PM
Who's taking them on?
No one, if they've not yet being registered by another operator
may only have been registered in the first place to meet domestic rules maybe. they are closed door routes on contract to staffs council.
Quote from: BusMan Greg on December 10, 2019, 04:17:36 PM
Apparently the 854 and 868 school services have been cancelled.
An afternoon X51 before the last timetable change used to terminate at Gorsey Lane in Great Wyrley, then continue not in service to Cheslyn Hay for one of those routes. That journey terminates in Bloxwich now.
I have removed a number of posts from this topic into a new one.
I am not restricting anyone's freedom of speech (not yet anyway!) but once again have to insist that ALL members follow the Forum Rules (http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=4859.0) and keep threads on-topic and civil.
Let's keep this thread specifically for general chat about Wolverhampton garage and its services.
What are the timetable changes for N11,N32/3 from 26th Jan 2020?
Quote from: wulfrun on January 07, 2020, 07:39:44 PM
What are the timetable changes for N11,N32/3 from 26th Jan 2020?
Minor changes to the evening and Sunday timetable
Thanks Nathan. I see the changes are now on bustimes.org.
N11: changes to when frequency changes during the afternoon and evening with different departure times in the eve - with one additional afternoon turn to Underhill mon-fri.
N32/3: change on Sunday eve, with shorter journey times.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 10, 2020, 12:31:19 PM
5401-15E
E400Hybrids on the 15 (or 16/17) are not unusual in the slightest, on any day of the week.
Has 5428 come out to play?
4535 did the ex 17:13 X8 from brum
Quote from: Jack6101 on January 14, 2020, 05:47:42 PM
4535 did the ex 17:13 X8 from brum
I'd love it if every bus in the Wolverhampton fleet were painted in this scheme.
Quote from: Gareth on January 14, 2020, 06:31:40 PM
I'd love it if every bus in the Wolverhampton fleet were painted in this scheme.
Not if you lived in Blackheath a stupid forgotten livery from an third rate corporation no one remembers or cares about in Blackheath other than for its obsolete trolleybuses have you never heard of a company that was called Midland Red on the 140! Now that was a livery & fine company that operated on what you call the X8 and of course Midland Red was always far superior to what was laughingly called Wolverhampton Corporation!
Quote from: Jack6101 on January 14, 2020, 05:47:42 PM
4535 did the ex 17:13 X8 from brum
Thankfully I am not at work this week so don't have to see poor X8 users having to use such a pathetically painted bus on a traditional Midland Red route it is just a desperate measure by some to remember a past thru rose coloured spectacles that no one in Blackheath cares about!
Quote from: richardjones210368 on January 14, 2020, 06:44:48 PM
Thankfully I am not at work this week so don't have to see poor X8 users having to use such a pathetically painted bus on a traditional Midland Red route it is just a desperate measure by some to remember a past thru rose coloured spectacles that no one in Blackheath cares about!
But it's better then no bus at all is it, and the x8 is a good service like most others in Birmingham they suffer with delays in the rush hour but that's not NXWM FAULT !
Quote from: Jack6101 on January 14, 2020, 07:01:08 PM
But it's better then no bus at all is it, and the x8 is a good service like most others in Birmingham they suffer with delays in the rush hour but that's not NXWM FAULT !
You are so funny with lines like that I think you have the makings of being the next Jimmy Tarbuck!
When the 15/15A changes on the 26th will there still be Double deckers allocated
Quote from: BH2004 on January 14, 2020, 07:24:35 PM
When the 15/15A changes on the 26th will there still be Double deckers allocated
Yes.
Quote from: richardjones210368 on January 14, 2020, 07:07:30 PM
You are so funny with lines like that I think you have the makings of being the next Jimmy Tarbuck!
After reading your posts constantly moaning about factors that are uncontrollable and constant contradictions I think you have the makings of being the biggest idiot of 2020!
Quote from: Driver03 on January 15, 2020, 11:50:20 AM
After reading your posts constantly moaning about factors that are uncontrollable and constant contradictions I think you have the makings of being the biggest idiot of 2020!
Thank you for your kind words
@Driver03 I would value that award so much its years since I was nominated for anything last time it was Young Midlands Accountant Of The Year mind you I didn't win that but I high hopes for your suggestion contradictions are the karma of life aren't they? but it's strange but your thoughts are are shared by so many others, funny that how perceptive of you I think of myself as the Diamond Bus Ninja of bus enthusiasts mind you I can think of more laughable titles other as me winning the biggest idiot of 2020 perhaps the title
-Operator of The Year for 2020 - West Midlands Travel Limited - comes to mind now even Tarby couldn't come up with anything funnier than that though mind you my own philosophy in life using Diamond Bus daily is the unexpected always happens when you least expect it.............................................
Does anyone know what the allocation for 15 and 15A are after the 26th
Quote from: BH2004 on January 17, 2020, 03:59:00 PM
Does anyone know what the allocation for 15 and 15A are after the 26th
Same as it currently is, i'd imagine.
What 3/4 branded buses being debranded
Quote from: BH2004 on January 24, 2020, 04:20:35 PM
What 3/4 branded buses being debranded
Are they being rebranded or just completely de branded?
I know I have already asked this but no one has answered but what 3/4 branded buses have been debranded. I would like to know this because I am doing a fleet list.
Quote from: BH2004 on January 30, 2020, 08:37:55 PM
I know I have already asked this but no one has answered but what 3/4 branded buses have been debranded. I would like to know this because I am doing a fleet list.
I also asked. To answer both our question. 2012 is one definitely debranded. I suspect at least 2013/14 and maybe 2015 are the ones.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on January 30, 2020, 08:44:14 PM
I also asked. To answer both our question. 2012 is one definitely debranded. I suspect at least 2013/14 and maybe 2015 are the ones.
Thank you
They don't seem to of been debranded completely but all the ones I've seen have part of the branding removed
Quote from: BusMan Greg on November 09, 2019, 10:18:58 PM
In regards to your comment about the platinum announcements, the announcements on the number 1 are alot better as they are voiced by the depot manager (who indeed has a black country accent). This reminds me of the days when each garage was it's own corporation. I believe every depot should do something like this as each platinum route would be alot more personalised to the areas that are served.
Imagine if they did the X51 in a Cannock accent 😂
Quote from: Busman Jamie on January 30, 2020, 09:01:59 PM
They don't seem to of been debranded completely but all the ones I've seen have part of the branding removed
I54 doesn't take up as much room as Spring Hill so the new vinyls don't go all the way back so there's about a foot of blank space.
Quote from: Bob on January 31, 2020, 09:33:48 AM
Imagine if they did the X51 in a Cannock accent 😂
It would be good if they did the WA, WN, WB and PE announcements in a Black Country accent and the Birmingham garages in a Birmingham accent.
The 1 and 4 (4H/4M) are the last ones with the regional accents left.
Quote from: Jack on January 31, 2020, 11:14:04 AM
It would be good if they did the WA, WN, WB and PE announcements in a Black Country accent and the Birmingham garages in a Birmingham accent.
The 1 and 4 (4H/4M) are the last ones with the regional accents left.
Personally I cant stand the announcements on the NXWM 4 4H 4M from that soppy chap. Its impossible to have a West Midlands accent on a bus I am sure Winston would agree our Blackheath/Halesowen accent is very different to a Dudley accent,one of my mates has a Dudddlleyyy accent while another of my mates has a Harborne Brummie accents when were at concerts and on holiday no one believes were are all from the same area. I was at Bartley Green memorial and a bloke said "your not from round here mate are you" personally I think.Noddy Holder of Slade should do all onscreen announcements in the TfWM area especially when Itttttsssss Chrisssttmasss!
I'm sure the people for whom they're meant (partially sighted, strangers to the area) find them very useful. Presumably people from those groups who get on a competitors bus don't have the same facility.
@richardjones210368 I'm surprised you're taking such a flippant attitude towards such quality provision by NXWM. I personally think it ought to be Brian Blessed - spur some of the soppier people of the area covered into life 😄
Tbf the announcements have gone from the majority of the 4 Omnilinks... hopefully they'll reprogram them at some point..
Quote from: don on January 31, 2020, 12:36:50 PM
I'm sure the people for whom they're meant (partially sighted, strangers to the area) find them very useful. Presumably people from those groups who get on a competitors bus don't have the same facility.
@richardjones210368 I'm surprised you're taking such a flippant attitude towards such quality provision by NXWM. I personally think it ought to be Brian Blessed - spur some of the soppier people of the area covered into life 😄
The start stop announcements are an excellent provision from NXWM I just cant stand the blokes voice on the 4 4H 4M I do like the lady on the X8 however she has the purr of an Anthea Turner...........................
Quote from: richardjones210368 on January 31, 2020, 03:06:55 PM
I do like the lady on the X8 however she has the purr of an Anthea Turner...........................
Mr platinum was better!
Easy way to stop the accent problem. Just use someone from the BBC News to do them.
Quote from: mesub on January 31, 2020, 03:35:50 PM
Mr platinum was better!
He was. The female ones aren't that bad though. Just sometimes they feel a bit quick. For example University North Gate sounded like University Woodgate the other day lol.
Quote from: mesub on January 31, 2020, 03:35:50 PM
Mr platinum was better!
I didn't mind the ones on the 4/4M/4H! and I did much prefer Mr Platinum to Mrs who gets rather annoying by the end of a journey. The 529 was last to change in Wolvo and Walsall :-(
What buses are going on to the 15/16 when 4919 -4927 leave
Quote from: BH2004 on February 03, 2020, 04:34:21 PM
What buses are going on to the 15/16 when 4919 -4927 leave
The ones coming down from Dundee, some of which that are already at WN (E400H)
Quote from: BH2004 on February 03, 2020, 04:34:21 PM
What buses are going on to the 15/16 when 4919 -4927 leave
I'd imagine the primary allocation would be a mix of E400/E40D's (49**'s) and Enviro 400H's (54**'s), not much different to now.
WN 2014 (3/4 branded ) was NIS on bull street at 4:50 Pm
Quote from: Jack6101 on February 05, 2020, 06:02:02 PM
WN 2014 (3/4 branded ) was NIS on bull street at 4:50 Pm
On loan to Walsall on the X51 this afternoon.
Quote from: Nathan on February 12, 2020, 03:50:57 PM
850 on WN8/X8
I bet the mayor has already received his complaint letter about West Midlands Travel Limited.
Quote from: Gareth on February 12, 2020, 04:26:58 PM
I bet the mayor has already received his complaint letter about West Midlands Travel Limited.
Add in the B7RLE on there too (although this happens often so not worth posting). He could've just got on the MMC that was moments behind it... now that's a seperate complaint 😁
When does 5422 - 5427/5429 - 5430 go into service
Quote from: BH2004 on February 16, 2020, 10:39:31 PM
When does 5422 - 5427/5429 - 5430 go into service
5422-5 & 5429 haven't even left Dundee yet.
Quote from: Winston on February 16, 2020, 10:48:16 PM
5422-5 & 5429 haven't even left Dundee yet.
5422 has also been reinstated there for now, having re-entered service on the 14th January, and likely the last bus to run in service in the old hybrid livery.
Quote from: StourValley98 on February 17, 2020, 06:36:12 AM
5422 has also been reinstated there for now, having re-entered service on the 14th January, and likely the last bus to run in service in the old hybrid livery.
It was never withdrawn
So the Stafford route is being scrapped then?
Registration now shows Wolverhampton to I54 via Pendeford Business Park from April 5th 2020.
The registration previously showed Wolverhampton to Stafford via Pendeford Business Park, I54, Coven and Penkridge.
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/543905/
Makes sense for them to do this
Quote from: 2206 on February 21, 2020, 02:15:35 AM
So the Stafford route is being scrapped then?
Registration now shows Wolverhampton to I54 via Pendeford Business Park from April 5th 2020.
The registration previously showed Wolverhampton to Stafford via Pendeford Business Park, I54, Coven and Penkridge.
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/543905/
I think they should call it 4A and interwork it with the 4
Quote from: 2206 on February 21, 2020, 02:15:35 AM
So the Stafford route is being scrapped then?
Registration now shows Wolverhampton to I54 via Pendeford Business Park from April 5th 2020.
The registration previously showed Wolverhampton to Stafford via Pendeford Business Park, I54, Coven and Penkridge.
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/543905/
Why don't they just scrap it completely? Bit of a pointless route now really as you've already got the 4 and the 6 that serve i54 anyway. Besides, going up Stafford Road to i54 is a bit pointless too as that is served by the 3, 32 & 33
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on February 21, 2020, 05:00:48 PM
Why don't they just scrap it completely? Bit of a pointless route now really as you've already got the 4 and the 6 that serve i54 anyway. Besides, going up Stafford Road to i54 is a bit pointless too as that is served by the 3, 32 & 33
Why don't they combine the 54 (I54-Wolves) with the 25 so it will become a circular route rather than having to turn around at I54 and going back through Willenhall, Bilston etc. i.e. 25A & 25C
Quote from: BusMan Greg on February 21, 2020, 07:03:13 PM
Why don't they combine the 54 (I54-Wolves) with the 25 so it will become a circular route rather than having to turn around at I54 and going back through Willenhall, Bilston etc. i.e. 25A & 25C
It is a subsidised route. It does what those paying the bill want it to do
Honestly... The 54 isn't a heavy loss. All Sections of the route are covered by other services inc:
Wolves-I54 Route 4
Wolves-Coven Routes 877/878
Wolves-Penkridge Route 878 or Train
Penkridge-Stafford Routes 75, 878 or Train
Coven-Penkridge Route 878
The point is it doesn't need replacing.
Quote from: BusMan Greg on February 21, 2020, 09:13:20 PM
Honestly... The 54 isn't a heavy loss. All Sections of the route are covered by other services inc:
Wolves-I54 Route 4
Wolves-Coven Routes 877/878
Wolves-Penkridge Route 878 or Train
Penkridge-Stafford Routes 75, 878 or Train
Coven-Penkridge Route 878
The point is it doesn't need replacing.
So by your logic, nobody wants to travel from Wolverhampton to Stafford direct by bus?
What about on Saturdays when Select only run Wolves to Brewood?
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on February 22, 2020, 11:16:34 AM
So by your logic, nobody wants to travel from Wolverhampton to Stafford direct by bus?
What about on Saturdays when Select only run Wolves to Brewood?
Most people would use the train to Stafford. At a guess, I'd say that is why the i54 - Stafford section is being withdrawn due to low passenger numbers, probably because people use the train instead.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on February 22, 2020, 11:16:34 AM
So by your logic, nobody wants to travel from Wolverhampton to Stafford direct by bus?
What about on Saturdays when Select only run Wolves to Brewood?
The select ones take ages and the timetable is confusing except between Wolves and Brewood
Quote from: BusMan Greg on February 21, 2020, 09:13:20 PM
Honestly... The 54 isn't a heavy loss. All Sections of the route are covered by other services inc:
Wolves-I54 Route 4
Wolves-Coven Routes 877/878
Wolves-Penkridge Route 878 or Train
Penkridge-Stafford Routes 75, 878 or Train
Coven-Penkridge Route 878
The point is it doesn't need replacing.
I think you will find there are lots of people that use it regularly, that will miss it. can't really say the select service will cut it, as they don't run as early or late. problem is lack of info staffs side, fares, the fact that its one of those routes that a major incident on the m6 can really screw reliability up, and the "clever scheduling" and route adjustment in Stafford town centre stuffed it completely, as it misses out the back of the guildhall where majority of people used to alight, the new development, and bus station. Maybe if they had routed it from the green and turned right into town rather than Newport rd, and took it around new development, past police station, bus station then out past train station it may have improved matters.
Quote from: mranon on February 23, 2020, 09:41:03 AM
I think you will find there are lots of people that use it regularly, that will miss it. can't really say the select service will cut it, as they don't run as early or late. problem is lack of info staffs side, fares, the fact that its one of those routes that a major incident on the m6 can really screw reliability up, and the "clever scheduling" and route adjustment in Stafford town centre stuffed it completely, as it misses out the back of the guildhall where majority of people used to alight, the new development, and bus station. Maybe if they had routed it from the green and turned right into town rather than Newport rd, and took it around new development, past police station, bus station then out past train station it may have improved matters.
On a side note Arriva cut out the railway station. Surprised there isn't a Codsall - Stafford service?
Quote from: l.murphy123 on February 23, 2020, 05:17:45 PM
On a side note Arriva cut out the railway station. Surprised there isn't a Codsall - Stafford service?
Why is it surprising?
Quote from: l.murphy123 on February 23, 2020, 05:17:45 PM
On a side note Arriva cut out the railway station. Surprised there isn't a Codsall - Stafford service?
wasn't there a 880 service by choice travel
Does anyone know if 729/730 are in service yet?
Quote from: Solo1 on February 23, 2020, 10:19:30 PM
wasn't there a 880 service by choice travel
yes there was an 880, that became the 88 when arriva ran it. then when everything got changed selects 877/878 swallowed the brewood to Stafford bit up, and the perton to codsall bit became the 10b.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on February 22, 2020, 11:16:34 AM
So by your logic, nobody wants to travel from Wolverhampton to Stafford direct by bus?
What about on Saturdays when Select only run Wolves to Brewood?
The way I read the posts, and the subsequent curtailing, is that there isn't enough demand to warrant a through route, not that anyone is suggesting that no one needs a direct route. The initial concept is good and logic would suggest a through bus to the two major destinations is needed and would work (in the same way Travel A"Z launched the Walsall to Wolverhampton via Manor and New Cross Hospitals linking two major healthcare facilities).
NXWM has tried and tested a number of options and, for whatever reason, has decided to cut the route short.
Personally, if I was travelling Wolverhampton to Stafford, I'd either drive or catch a train.
Quote from: the trainbasher on February 24, 2020, 10:19:26 AM
Does anyone know if 729/730 are in service yet?
They are in reserve according to the repaint list
5427 arrived today, we'll try and get it out in service next week.
Quote from: BN on February 25, 2020, 08:12:59 PM
5427 arrived today, we'll try and get it out in service next week.
What route is it going to be on??
Quote from: the trainbasher on February 25, 2020, 08:49:08 PM
What route is it going to be on??
The 1 or the 15/16 as the a few E400s were swapped to YW and Dundee sent the E400H to replace them
Quote from: Wumpty on February 24, 2020, 11:28:35 AM
The way I read the posts, and the subsequent curtailing, is that there isn't enough demand to warrant a through route, not that anyone is suggesting that no one needs a direct route. The initial concept is good and logic would suggest a through bus to the two major destinations is needed and would work (in the same way Travel A"Z launched the Walsall to Wolverhampton via Manor and New Cross Hospitals linking two major healthcare facilities).
NXWM has tried and tested a number of options and, for whatever reason, has decided to cut the route short.
Personally, if I was travelling Wolverhampton to Stafford, I'd either drive or catch a train.
Plus of course payment of fares on the train is seen as optional by a proportion of the punters - I shall nevet understand why Stafford didn't get barriers when other Virgin stations did.
Quote from: mikestone on February 26, 2020, 10:43:38 AM
Plus of course payment of fares on the train is seen as optional by a proportion of the punters - I shall nevet understand why Stafford didn't get barriers when other Virgin stations did.
I believe Wolverhampton will have barriers once the new station is open, however.
How come the 1 doesn't serve Wolverhampton Bus Station but the Travel Express version does?
Quote from: Busboy105 on February 27, 2020, 10:13:34 AM
How come the 1 doesn't serve Wolverhampton Bus Station but the Travel Express version does?
Travel Express don't serve the bus station, they terminate on Lichfield Street opposite The Moon Under Water.
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on February 27, 2020, 10:37:36 AM
Travel Express don't serve the bus station, they terminate on Lichfield Street opposite The Moon Under Water.
Do they cover the same route?
Quote from: l.murphy123 on February 27, 2020, 01:07:33 PM
Do they cover the same route?
The TE1 only runs between Wolverhampton and Tettenhall Wood only.
Does anyone know if any of the Hybrid Enviros are likely to be getting route branding for the 1, and if so how many?
Quote from: Busboy105 on February 27, 2020, 10:13:34 AM
How come the 1 doesn't serve Wolverhampton Bus Station but the Travel Express version does?
Am sure that if you use the bus station, you must pay for it, Doubt whether TE would do that.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on February 27, 2020, 08:26:36 PM
Am sure that if you use the bus station, you must pay for it, Doubt whether TE would do that.
Yes they do. Probably why Arriva don't serve it for their 70 service or Select for their 67/71 service to Cannock.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on February 27, 2020, 08:26:36 PM
Am sure that if you use the bus station, you must pay for it, Doubt whether TE would do that.
TEX use the bus station for their 2, 11, 32 & 33 services. At a guess, i'd say the 1 doesn't use it because they wan't to keep to the same route that NX uses, as they don't serve the bus station either. Using the bus station would add more time onto the journey as there are various hold ups, stand congestion e.t.c plus the charge they have to pay for using it.
Quote from: markcf83 on February 27, 2020, 08:23:47 PM
Does anyone know if any of the Hybrid Enviros are likely to be getting route branding for the 1, and if so how many?
They used to have branding when they were in the green and white livery, but not sure if they will brand them again.
On a number 1 to Dudley it's a platinum bus and its got next stop announcements??
Quote from: l.murphy123 on February 29, 2020, 05:18:30 PM
On a number 1 to Dudley it's a platinum bus and its got next stop announcements??
All platinums have next stop announcements. The 1 has had them since 2013
Quote from: Tony on February 29, 2020, 05:44:44 PM
All platinums have next stop announcements. The 1 has had them since 2013
The Next stop announcements only work if the driver changes the blind at the terminus, there was three occasions last week on the 907 when i had to ask the driver to change his blind, it happens on the 50 as well.
Quote from: Tony on February 29, 2020, 05:44:44 PM
All platinums have next stop announcements. The 1 has had them since 2013
I noticed the X8 has them on the hybrids as well, how come this isn't the case for the BC ones when they stray onto a platinum service?
Quote from: Steve3229vp on February 29, 2020, 06:26:09 PM
The Next stop announcements only work if the driver changes the blind at the terminus, there was three occasions last week on the 907 when i had to ask the driver to change his blind, it happens on the 50 as well.
I'm assuming drivers intentionally don't change the blind then. I certainly know that plenty of drivers get pissed off with the irritating announcements.
Quote from: MW on February 29, 2020, 08:55:43 PM
I'm assuming drivers intentionally don't change the blind then. I certainly know that plenty of drivers get pissed off with the irritating announcements.
Very rare to see BC X1/X2 and X20/X21/X22 platinums with incorrect blinds. Not sure about other routes.
Doubt people who use and have relied on the announcements would agree with your opinion of them being irritating. Previously on the Uni corridor there'd be about 7 or 8 people all requesting to be informed where to get off on the 98/99, think the announcements on the X20/X21/X22 are a much better system of informing people where they can alight.
And a man on the 94, unfamiliar with the area, earlier in this week missed his stop by about 6 stops, if there'd been onboard announcements he probably would have known where to get off.
Once I boarded a First Kernow 47 service and was told by the driver that he knew the stop I wished to alight at, but he wouldn't inform me when the bus got there "because it would be getting dark". Even there was still an additional few hours of daylight left.
Bet a lot of people would have been put off travelling by bus again after encountering him. Again shame there was no announcements in place there.
So lots of people clearly find them useful and they should be in use, in my opinion, so if that's the case its very poor.
It should also be expanded across all of the main corridors I personally think, no reason why it should only be in place on platinum routes.
Quote from: 2206 on February 29, 2020, 09:12:13 PM
Very rare to see BC platinums with incorrect blinds. Not sure about other routes.
Doubt people who use and have relied on the announcements would agree with your opinion of them being irritating. Previously on the Uni corridor there'd be about 7 or 8 people all requesting to be informed where to get off on the 98/99, think the announcements on the X20/X21/X22 are a much better system of informing people where they can alight.
And a man on the 94, unfamiliar with the area, earlier in this week missed is stop by about 6 stops, if there'd been onboard announcements he probably would have known where to get off.
Once I boarded a First Kernow 47 service and was told by the driver that he knew the stop I wished to alight at, but he wouldn't inform me when the bus got there "because it would be getting dark". Even there was still an additional few hours of daylight left.
Bet a lot of people would have been put off travelling by bus again after encountering him. Again shame there was no announcements in place there.
So lots of people clearly find them useful and they should be in use, in my opinion, so if that's the case its very poor.
It should also be expanded across the whole NX fleet I personally think, no reason why it should only be in place on platinum routes.
I'm not disputing that people who use or rely on them would disagree with me.
I'm saying that people who drive routes like the 50 and do something like 6-7 trips a day would most definitely find them irritating.
Quote from: 2206 on February 29, 2020, 09:12:13 PM.
So lots of people clearly find them useful and they should be in use, in my opinion, so if that's the case its very poor.
It should also be expanded across all of the main corridors I personally think, no reason why it should only be in place on platinum routes.
They were more useful before when Mr Platinum would say the name of the road and then the stop - e.g. "Gorsey Lane, Oak Avenue".
Quote from: 2206 on February 29, 2020, 09:12:13 PM
Very rare to see BC X1/X2 and X20/X21/X22 platinums with incorrect blinds. Not sure about other routes.
Doubt people who use and have relied on the announcements would agree with your opinion of them being irritating. Previously on the Uni corridor there'd be about 7 or 8 people all requesting to be informed where to get off on the 98/99, think the announcements on the X20/X21/X22 are a much better system of informing people where they can alight.
And a man on the 94, unfamiliar with the area, earlier in this week missed his stop by about 6 stops, if there'd been onboard announcements he probably would have known where to get off.
Once I boarded a First Kernow 47 service and was told by the driver that he knew the stop I wished to alight at, but he wouldn't inform me when the bus got there "because it would be getting dark". Even there was still an additional few hours of daylight left.
Bet a lot of people would have been put off travelling by bus again after encountering him. Again shame there was no announcements in place there.
So lots of people clearly find them useful and they should be in use, in my opinion, so if that's the case its very poor.
It should also be expanded across all of the main corridors I personally think, no reason why it should only be in place on platinum routes.
Well they have to change the blinds on the X1/X2 and X20/X21/X22 due to the fact they interwork. Imagine a X20 comes into brum and should be going out as an X22, instead keeps X20 on displays then all of sudden turns right at the bottom of university, would be a disaster. Same with 61 and 63.
Announcements are very annoying to regulars who have to get on them
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 01, 2020, 03:33:25 PM
Announcements are very annoying to regulars who have to get on them
Don't notice them after a while and I don't find them annoying either.
And never heard anyone complain about them before either when I've been on them.
Quote from: l.murphy123 on March 01, 2020, 12:07:09 AM
They were more useful before when Mr Platinum would say the name of the road and then the stop - e.g. "Gorsey Lane, Oak Avenue".
Announcements on the X20/X21/X22 are useful I think e.g.
'St Martin's Queensway - For New Street Station', 'Somerset Road - For Vale Village',
'Westmere - For University Conference Centre', etc.
Quote from: 2206 on March 01, 2020, 03:35:54 PM
Don't notice them after a while and I don't find them annoying either.
And never heard anyone complain about them before either when I've been on them. Announcements on the X20/X21/X22 are useful I think e.g.
'St Martin's Queensway - For New Street Station', 'Somerset Road - For Vale Village',
'Westmere - For University Conference Centre', etc.
True. A combination of the both then lol. They missed "Wardles Lane - for Landywood Station" on the X51.
Quote from: l.murphy123 on March 01, 2020, 04:43:46 PM
True. A combination of the both then lol. They missed "Wardles Lane - for Landywood Station" on the X51.
And they missed "Perry Avenue for Alexander Stadium," from the X51.
When are 4536 - 4542/ 4933 - 4936 going to loose their available car adverts
Quote from: BH2004 on March 02, 2020, 06:30:02 PM
When are 4536 - 4542/ 4933 - 4936 going to loose their available car adverts
Same time as all the others. They were for a year
Next one on the road will be 5426, tomorrow
Quote from: BN on March 09, 2020, 09:06:31 PM
Next one on the road will be 5426, tomorrow
What Route??
Next one out will be 5427 tomorrow.
Are there enough Platinums for the 8/X8 and 529? Because they seem to get about a bit
Quote from: 37351ml on March 13, 2020, 06:30:35 PM
6770 about to work a 16 from stourbridge to wolves
Where were all the 529 platinums this evening?? Saw several single deckers and only a few platinums.
Quote from: l.murphy123 on March 14, 2020, 02:00:25 AM
Where were all the 529 platinums this evening?? Saw several single deckers and only a few platinums.
I'm not sure where they were on Saturday, but one was on the 79 yesterday.
Maybe a good idea to catch some 4300's very soon, with the service reductions and cascade plan you may not see some of them again on the streets of WN.
Quote from: BN on March 21, 2020, 09:19:47 AM
Maybe a good idea to catch some 4300's very soon, with the service reductions and cascade plan you may not see some of them again on the streets of WN.
Maybe a better idea for spotters to Stay at Home!
Look out for the new X68 from tomorrow.
Quote from: BN on April 08, 2020, 07:17:47 PM
Look out for the new X68 from tomorrow.
Where does it go
Hospital shuttle wolves to cannock
Quote from: BN on April 08, 2020, 07:39:22 PM
Hospital shuttle wolves to cannock
Oh ok
What are the other hospital shuttles
Quote from: BH2004 on April 08, 2020, 07:40:09 PM
Oh ok
What are the other hospital shuttles
Will there be a timetable available soon?
What's happened to 4936
Quote from: BH2004 on April 08, 2020, 09:29:11 PM
What's happened to 4936
It's one of 900noarked up buses
Quote from: BN on April 08, 2020, 07:17:47 PM
Look out for the new X68 from tomorrow.
Wasn't that an Arriva service a few years ago?
Quote from: l.murphy123 on April 09, 2020, 12:05:27 PM
Wasn't that an Arriva service a few years ago?
It was indeed. It was operated by Wednesfield depot during 2015/2016
Quote from: BusMan Greg on April 09, 2020, 01:13:41 PM
It was indeed. It was operated by Wednesfield depot during 2015/2016
So what is it now? Who what where when why 😂
I've noticed today that 15 and 25 Daytimes and about 6:15 the bus off 54 comes on to the 15
Today:
854 - 15
Does anyone remember a change giving experiment on the 641?
I think it was somewhere around 1998/99
So the 54's have officially been curtailed to operate between I54 and Wolverhampton only with Stafford section left in the hands of select & arriva. With the last 5 years in mind, would everyone say that the 54's to Stafford was a success or failure?
Quote from: BusMan Greg on April 18, 2020, 11:01:30 PM
So the 54's have officially been curtailed to operate between I54 and Wolverhampton only with Stafford section left in the hands of select & arriva. With the last 5 years in mind, would everyone say that the 54's to Stafford was a success or failure?
Failure otherwise it would still run, that said wasn't it subsidized or am I thinking of something else
Quote from: BusMan Greg on April 18, 2020, 11:01:30 PM
So the 54's have officially been curtailed to operate between I54 and Wolverhampton only with Stafford section left in the hands of select & arriva. With the last 5 years in mind, would everyone say that the 54's to Stafford was a success or failure?
Quote from: Lukeee on April 19, 2020, 09:13:06 AM
Failure otherwise it would still run, that said wasn't it subsidized or am I thinking of something else
It received funding from the i54 Business Park, which has now been withdrawn.
Without this financial support, it obviously isn't a viable service to operate commercially.
I never used this service myself, so I have no experience myself of what typical loadings were like.
If some people did use it regularly, it might be considered to have been a 'mild success'. But if it didn't carry enough passengers to make it a viable service in its own right (ie without subsidy) then it will have to go down as a 'failure'.
Quote from: Stu on April 19, 2020, 09:21:29 AM
It received funding from the i54 Business Park, which has now been withdrawn.
Without this financial support, it obviously isn't a viable service to operate commercially.
I never used this service myself, so I have no experience myself of what typical loadings were like.
If some people did use it regularly, it might be considered to have been a 'mild success'. But if it didn't carry enough passengers to make it a viable service in its own right (ie without subsidy) then it will have to go down as a 'failure'.
So if i54 withdrew their funding and the service wasn't viable, then why is it still operating a curtailed route?
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on April 19, 2020, 11:12:15 AM
So if i54 withdrew their funding and the service wasn't viable, then why is it still operating a curtailed route?
Beacause that part is viable!
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on April 19, 2020, 11:12:15 AM
So if i54 withdrew their funding and the service wasn't viable, then why is it still operating a curtailed route?
I54 pay for it that's why.
I'm always surprised Wolves to at least Coven and Brewood hasn't ever warranted a more frequent service than Select provide but so be it, I suppose Staffs CC subsidies being cut over time limited all viable options
Quote from: BN on April 19, 2020, 01:16:41 PM
I54 pay for it that's why.
As mentioned by
@Stu earlier, i54 have withdrawn the funding, so NX must be operating this section commercially? Personally, I see the 54 as a pointless route now as Stafford Road and i54 are already served by frequent NX services.
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on April 19, 2020, 02:33:59 PM
As mentioned by @Stu earlier, i54 have withdrawn the funding, so NX must be operating this section commercially? Personally, I see the 54 as a pointless route now as Stafford Road and i54 are already served by frequent NX services.
They are still providing a subsidy for this part!
Before getting all angry have the facts.
Quote from: Tony on April 19, 2020, 03:19:09 PM
They are still providing a subsidy for this part!
Before getting all angry have the facts.
I wasn't getting angry, just simply providing an opinion.
I have taken this service several times to/from stafford rail station in the past
If I remember correctly the service I cought didn't start/finish at the bus station?
I had to walk some distance up the stafford? road. very few people appeared
to cover the whole route but the service was well patronised at least as far as
penkridge... I had wondered how far you could actually travel on a service
bus between 09.30am and, say, 7pm? on any week day?.(.using any operator)
with an ENGLISH concessionry pass. ie ONE way?
Quote from: windy miller on April 19, 2020, 05:40:16 PM
I have taken this service several times to/from stafford rail station in the past
If I remember correctly the service I cought didn't start/finish at the bus station?
I had to walk some distance up the stafford? road. very few people appeared
to cover the whole route but the service was well patronised at least as far as
penkridge... I had wondered how far you could actually travel on a service
bus between 09.30am and, say, 7pm? on any week day?.(.using any operator)
with an ENGLISH concessionry pass. ie ONE way?
Wolverhampton bus station? Don't think it did - nor do the other Stafford buses 877 & 878 or Cannock 70 & 71. These go to Stafford Street and outside the university building.
Quote from: l.murphy123 on April 21, 2020, 10:41:31 PM
Wolverhampton bus station? Don't think it did - nor do the other Stafford buses 877 & 878 or Cannock 70 & 71. These go to Stafford Street and outside the university building.
The 54 does use Wolverhampton Bus Station.
I assume the poster means Gaol Square in Stafford, which it did serve (and looped the town). It was amended to terminate outside Sainsbury's to shave off running time.
Quote from: Nathan on April 21, 2020, 11:35:04 PM
The 54 does use Wolverhampton Bus Station.
I assume the poster means Gaol Square in Stafford, which it did serve (and looped the town). It was amended to terminate outside Sainsbury's to shave off running time.
Ahh right okay. It would be useful for the 70/71 to use Wolverhampton bus station.
They probably dont use the bus station to avoid departure charges which would increase the operational cost of the route & potentially make it unviable
Quote from: Steveminor on April 23, 2020, 02:30:42 PM
They probably dont use the bus station to avoid departure charges which would increase the operational cost of the route & potentially make it unviable
With the interworking between Cannock and Stafford services it's possible that the extra few minutes would cost an additional bus as well
853/854 now debranded.
Quote from: Tony on April 23, 2020, 02:35:46 PM
With the interworking between Cannock and Stafford services it's possible that the extra few minutes would cost an additional bus as well
They may also not see any point in serving the bus station, as Stafford Street is nearer to the shops etc meaning people don't have to walk all the way down to the bus station.
Given the current situation, am I to presume that TfWM are waiting for some easing of the lockdown measures before they go around changing bus stop flags? On Stafford Road in Wolverhampton, the flags are still showing the cancelled 54A service.
Quote from: ellspurs on April 27, 2020, 05:43:17 PM
Given the current situation, am I to presume that TfWM are waiting for some easing of the lockdown measures before they go around changing bus stop flags? On Stafford Road in Wolverhampton, the flags are still showing the cancelled 54A service.
There does appear to be some flag updating going on still, certainly within the last couple of weeks, some of the stop flags along the 11 route through Billesley and Kings Heath (in Birmingham) have been replaced. So I imagine that those in Wolverhampton will get done at some point.
Quote from: ellspurs on April 27, 2020, 05:43:17 PM
Given the current situation, am I to presume that TfWM are waiting for some easing of the lockdown measures before they go around changing bus stop flags? On Stafford Road in Wolverhampton, the flags are still showing the cancelled 54A service.
Now is a good time I suppose whilst it quiet, if they have the staff. Did they gave timetables along the Staffordshire end as with other Staffs routes like the X51 and 10A?
Temp transfer 6926 (9 branded MMC) is on the 15 & 25 today.
Quote from: Nathan on May 02, 2020, 10:41:15 AM
Temp transfer 6926 (9 branded MMC) is on the 15 & 25 today.
2 more will be out on Monday and the 3rd on Tuesday.
Is there any news on 5409
Current operational fleet
751
752
849
850
851
852
853
854
2082
2083
2084
2086
2087
2088
2089
2090
2091
2121
2122
2123
2138
2139
2140
2141
2142
4927
4928
4929
4930
4931
4932
4933
4934
4935
6760
6761
6762
6763
6764
6765
6766
6767
6768
6769
6770
6771
6772
6773
6774
6775
6776
6777
6778
6779
6780
6781
6782
6783
6784
6785
6786
6787
6788
6789
6790
6791
6792
6793
6794
6795
loan from PN
6917
6918
6926
6927
6931, 6932 & 6942 being reinstated and loaned to WN from next week
79 back to trident operation today with 4322 easily being the oldest bus in service
(4322, 4344, 4354, 4542, 6762 being the 5 vehicles on there at the moment)
1 back to Hybrids with 5430 amongst the allocated vehicles
Quote from: Tony on May 19, 2020, 07:45:46 AM
1 back to Hybrids with 5430 amongst the allocated vehicles
May have asked before cant remember - are the next stop announcements discontinued on the number 1?
Quote from: Tony on May 19, 2020, 07:45:46 AM
79 back to trident operation today with 4322 easily being the oldest bus in service
(4322, 4344, 4354, 4542, 6762 being the 5 vehicles on there at the moment)
1 back to Hybrids with 5430 amongst the allocated vehicles
There is also one on the 8 not long ago past me in holly hall towards merry hill
Quote from: Jack6101 on May 19, 2020, 10:53:06 AM
There is also one on the 8 not long ago past me in holly hall towards merry hill
I think that may be 4932.
Quote from: Jack6101 on May 19, 2020, 10:53:06 AM
There is also one on the 8 not long ago past me in holly hall towards merry hill
No trident on the 8, as BN says, you must have seen 4932
yess must of been I thought it was a hybrid tho but 4932 is crimson ( should of been clear earlier it was a e400
Nearly all of the parked up vehicles have now had a run out this week.
4561/4562 (59) on 25
When will 4936 be out?
Quote from: BH2004 on May 27, 2020, 08:20:19 PM
When will 4936 be out?
When Perry Barr bodymakers have finished the RTC repairs
Quote from: Tony on May 27, 2020, 08:27:43 PM
When Perry Barr bodymakers have finished the RTC repairs
How long do you think that will be
4425 first day out at WN on the 15/16
Express and Star say the jourmey time on the new Wolverhampton - Walsall line will be about 16 minutes which is about 25-30 minutes faster than the 529. Wonder what the level of impact will be for NX?
Quote from: l.murphy123 on June 13, 2020, 12:39:29 PM
Express and Star say the jourmey time on the new Wolverhampton - Walsall line will be about 16 minutes which is about 25-30 minutes faster than the 529. Wonder what the level of impact will be for NX?
Last time they had the train run that route, didn't it get withdrawn due to low patronage?
I see that they're reinstating the stations at Willenhall and Darlaston, although the proposed site for Willenhall is quite a bit away from where the shops are.
I'd say it will be a complement to the Wolves-Walsall corridor, but not really do too much to the 529.
Quote from: ellspurs on June 13, 2020, 12:55:24 PM
Last time they had the train run that route, didn't it get withdrawn due to low patronage?
I see that they're reinstating the stations at Willenhall and Darlaston, although the proposed site for Willenhall is quite a bit away from where the shops are.
I'd say it will be a complement to the Wolves-Walsall corridor, but not really do too much to the 529.
They did, but patronage was picking up
Quote from: ellspurs on June 13, 2020, 12:55:24 PM
Last time they had the train run that route, didn't it get withdrawn due to low patronage?
I see that they're reinstating the stations at Willenhall and Darlaston, although the proposed site for Willenhall is quite a bit away from where the shops are.
I'd say it will be a complement to the Wolves-Walsall corridor, but not really do too much to the 529.
One of the reasons cited for the closure in 2008 was a shortage of rolling stock with the Class 153 unit used on the service earmarked for another route. It didn't help that there were no intermediate stations on the line which would have attracted more passengers.
Willenhall station will be in Bilston Street about 150 yards away from the Willenhall Market Place bus stops - so it will be quite close to the shops. The same can't be said of Darlaston which will be in the James Bridge area and won't serve the town centre directly.
Quote from: l.murphy123 on June 13, 2020, 12:39:29 PM
Express and Star say the jourmey time on the new Wolverhampton - Walsall line will be about 16 minutes which is about 25-30 minutes faster than the 529. Wonder what the level of impact will be for NX?
The Midland Metro didn't affect the 126 when it used to go all the way to Wolves so I doubt there will be a major impact.
Does this mean that the line is 100% confirmed to start building?
Quote from: Busboy105 on June 13, 2020, 02:04:02 PM
The Midland Metro didn't affect the 126 when it used to go all the way to Wolves so I doubt there will be a major impact.
Does this mean that the line is 100% confirmed to start building?
Does the 126 still run between Wolverhampton & Birmingham?
also
Does the 979 still run between Wolverhampton & Birmingham?
There was a lot of press puff in March claiming planning applications for the stations had been submitted, but I cannot find any reference on the Walsall MBC planning website.
Quote from: Tony on June 13, 2020, 02:20:54 PM
Does the 126 still run between Wolverhampton & Birmingham?
also
Does the 979 still run between Wolverhampton & Birmingham?
It is my understanding that National Express West Midlands Service X8 operates an excellent Plantnum service between Wolverhampton & Birmingham at present.
A poster mentioned by
@ellspurs historically commented on this service on the forum .
Quote from: WyreForestShuttle on June 13, 2020, 02:40:42 PM
It is my understanding that National Express West Midlands Service X8 operates an excellent Plantnum service between Wolverhampton & Birmingham at present.
Which again goes nowhere near the metro.
The Metro did genuinely kill the 979
Quote from: WyreForestShuttle on June 13, 2020, 02:40:42 PM
It is my understanding that National Express West Midlands Service X8 operates an excellent Plantnum service between Wolverhampton & Birmingham at present.
A poster mentioned by @ellspurs historically commented on this service on the forum .
Excellent? Blimey Richard, times have changed then, eh?!
Quote from: Tony on June 13, 2020, 03:03:43 PM
Which again goes nowhere near the metro.
The Metro did genuinely kill the 979
Yes fully agree
@Tony which I persumb why the X8 has been sucessfull for National Express West Midlands.
You are also so right I used the Lynxes on the 979 to go to Wolverhampton Poly & the patronage disappeared overnight following the launch of Midland Metro sadly making it unviable for Travel West Midlands even after its revised curtailment to Wednesbury.
Quote from: Tony on June 13, 2020, 02:20:54 PM
Does the 126 still run between Wolverhampton & Birmingham?
also
Does the 979 still run between Wolverhampton & Birmingham?
Didn't the 126 stop going to Wolves was because of traffic issues? Because it still ran between Birmingham and Wolves 19 years after the Metro was launched.
Quote from: Busboy105 on June 13, 2020, 02:04:02 PM
The Midland Metro didn't affect the 126 when it used to go all the way to Wolves so I doubt there will be a major impact.
Does this mean that the line is 100% confirmed to start building?
Also, the metro hasn't affected the 79 which runs parallel to the metro.
Quote from: Pat on June 13, 2020, 04:29:13 PM
Also, the metro hasn't affected the 79 which runs parallel to the metro.
It has affected it.
Ending up dropping from a high frequency service into Birmingham to at one point a 20 minute frequency to West Bromwich?
Quote from: Tony on June 13, 2020, 04:32:39 PM
It has affected it.
Ending up dropping from a high frequency service into Birmingham to at one point a 20 minute frequency to West Bromwich?
Didn't the 79 more or less run the same route as the 74 between West Brom and Brum though?Nowadays, the route is always busy and I've often had a standing load on it.
Quote from: Pat on June 13, 2020, 04:40:11 PM
Didn't the 79 more or less run the same route as the 74 between West Brom and Brum though?Nowadays, the route is always busy and I've often had a standing load on it.
Yes it did, alongside the 74 and the 75.
Quote from: Busboy105 on June 13, 2020, 04:55:03 PM
Yes it did, alongside the 74 and the 75.
Aaah right, couldn't quite remember. I think the 74/75 combined to provide a 5 minute frequency.
Quote from: Busboy105 on June 13, 2020, 04:55:03 PM
Yes it did, alongside the 74 and the 75.
No it didn't, the 75 was brought out to replace the 79 between B'ham and Wednesbury. The every 5 minute frequency was kept between West Brom and B'ham when the 79 was cut and the 75 introduced.
Quote from: Jack on June 13, 2020, 05:04:21 PM
No it didn't, the 75 was brought out to replace the 79 between B'ham and Wednesbury. The every 5 minute frequency was kept between West Brom and B'ham when the 79 was cut and the 75 introduced.
So the 79 wasn't greatly affected by the Metro then? As it was curtailed to West Brom and replaced by the 75. Presumably that was due to reliability issues caused by traffic?
Quote from: Pat on June 13, 2020, 05:10:07 PM
So the 79 wasn't greatly affected by the Metro then? As it was curtailed to West Brom and replaced by the 75. Presumably that was due to reliability issues caused by traffic?
Yes, traffic in Handsworth and West Bromwich when Albion played at the Hawthorns pretty much put Soho Road/Holyhead Road on shutdown. But I would say that the 79 was affected by the Metro considering it serves pretty much the same areas as the 79 did bar Darlaston and was much faster than the 79.
Quote from: Busboy105 on June 13, 2020, 05:13:41 PM
Yes, traffic in Handsworth and West Bromwich when Albion played at the Hawthorns pretty much put Soho Road/Holyhead Road on shutdown. But I would say that the 79 was affected by the Metro considering it serves pretty much the same areas as the 79 did bar Darlaston and was much faster than the 79.
I suppose it may have had some affect, but I don't see it as having a major affect. The service is still very busy.
Quote from: Pat on June 13, 2020, 05:10:07 PM
So the 79 wasn't greatly affected by the Metro then? As it was curtailed to West Brom and replaced by the 75. Presumably that was due to reliability issues caused by traffic?
I thought the 79 curtailment was part of the thing like they did on the Coventry Road where they wanted one frequent service servicing the road (due to the traffic issues and such), with the other services connecting further out. Hence why the 57A became the 957, and ultimately the X2, with the 57 withdrawn and replaced with a more frequent 60. Could be getting it wrong in my head though.
The 979 got replaced by the 80 up to Wednesbury originally.
Quote from: ellspurs on June 13, 2020, 05:20:18 PM
I thought the 79 curtailment was part of the thing like they did on the Coventry Road where they wanted one frequent service servicing the road (due to the traffic issues and such), with the other services connecting further out. Hence why the 57A became the 957, and ultimately the X2, with the 57 withdrawn and replaced with a more frequent 60. Could be getting it wrong in my head though.
The 979 got replaced by the 80 up to Wednesbury originally.
Yes it does look similar to that. You also missed when the 60 had another frequency upgrade when the 58 was curtailed and the 59 was withdrawn (controversial decision in my opinion but at least passengers now have their Yardley-Kingshurst link now).
I think it's safe to say the metro has been dominant over the bus between Wolves and B'ham. We've gone from having 12 buses an hour connecting the two cities down to only 3
Perhaps the 529 is destined to become a limited stop route.
Quote from: MasterPlan on June 13, 2020, 06:19:14 PM
Perhaps the 529 is destined to become a limited stop route.
That isn't a good idea. The 529 is already a short route and doesn't run alongside a lot of other services.
The metro killed the 979 not the 79
Quote from: Lukeee on June 13, 2020, 06:46:14 PM
The metro killed the 979 not the 79
Still had a major impact on the 79. Hence it no longer running through to Birmingham.
The 79 was split because it was unworkable. Even on Sundays I would often walk from Darlaston to Wolverhampton on the way home from my Mothers without being passed by one.
Quote from: mikestone on June 13, 2020, 11:58:32 PM
The 79 was split because it was unworkable. Even on Sundays I would often walk from Darlaston to Wolverhampton on the way home from my Mothers without being passed by one.
Wasn't it like a 2 hour journey between Brum and Wolves?
Quote from: Busboy105 on June 13, 2020, 06:37:15 PM
That isn't a good idea. The 529 is already a short route and doesn't run alongside a lot of other services.
Yes, most of the stops are only served by the 529. It's always very busy, often seen the queue from the stand all the way to the travel shop in walsall.
Quote from: Busboy105 on June 14, 2020, 12:02:00 AM
Wasn't it like a 2 hour journey between Brum and Wolves?
Whatever it was allowed it frequently wasn't enough - and late running poorly regulated with consecutive late arrivals in Wolves being despatched empty - nothing more annoying than deciding to wait rather than set off on foot because there was one on the bus park only to see it set off empty.
Quote from: l.murphy123 on June 14, 2020, 01:29:01 AM
Yes, most of the stops are only served by the 529. It's always very busy, often seen the queue from the stand all the way to the travel shop in walsall.
The 529 does run mostly alongside other routes. There isn't really an area solely served by the 529. I think if it were to be limited stop, it would have to be between Wolves and Willenhall, as you have the 53,82 & 545 running alongside.
Quote from: Pat on June 14, 2020, 03:41:03 PM
The 529 does run mostly alongside other routes. There isn't really an area solely served by the 529. I think if it were to be limited stop, it would have to be between Wolves and Willenhall, as you have the 53,82 & 545 running alongside.
Neither of those services serve Willenhall though. The 529 probably would have been a limited stop route if NX wanted to considering how many limited stop services they have introduced over the last few years (X8,X10,X20,X21 and X22 just to name a few.)
Quote from: Busboy105 on June 14, 2020, 04:43:09 PM
Considering how many limited stop services they have introduced over the last few years (X8,X10,X20,X21 and X22 just to name a few.)
Not all of those are
really limited stop though
Quote from: Busboy105 on June 14, 2020, 04:43:09 PM
Neither of those services serve Willenhall though. The 529 probably would have been a limited stop route if NX wanted to considering how many limited stop services they have introduced over the last few years (X8,X10,X20,X21 and X22 just to name a few.)
You've got the 25 to Willenhall too. Anyway, if the 529 was limited stop, it would have to serve Willenhall anyway as that is a major destination.
Quote from: Pat on June 14, 2020, 03:41:03 PM
The 529 does run mostly alongside other routes. There isn't really an area solely served by the 529. I think if it were to be limited stop, it would have to be between Wolves and Willenhall, as you have the 53,82 & 545 running alongside.
If you look at the area maps, there are quite a few roads that are only served by the 529. It also appears to be the only direct route between both Wolverhampton and Willenhall, and Willenhall and Walsall.
I don't think the train will have much of an effect on it, especially if the train is only running every 30 minutes (bus is currently at every 10 minutes; I was sure it used to have a higher frequency).
Quote from: mesub on June 14, 2020, 05:01:47 PM
Not all of those are really limited stop though
What do you mean?
X8 and X10 are limited stop between Birmingham and Quinton.
X20,X21,X22 are limited stop between Birmingham and Q.E Hospital. I believe the X20 also goes limited stop between Selly Oak and Longbridge as well.
Quote from: Busboy105 on June 14, 2020, 05:39:47 PM
What do you mean?
X8 and X10 are limited stop between Birmingham and Quinton.
X20,X21,X22 are limited stop between Birmingham and Q.E Hospital. I believe the X20 also goes limited stop between Selly Oak and Longbridge as well.
Ah yes, those two stops they miss out on Bath Row...
Quote from: Busboy105 on June 14, 2020, 05:39:47 PM
What do you mean?
X8 and X10 are limited stop between Birmingham and Quinton.
X20,X21,X22 are limited stop between Birmingham and Q.E Hospital. I believe the X20 also goes limited stop between Selly Oak and Longbridge as well.
The two between Five Ways - Quinton and Selly Oak - Longbridge are correct.
The X20/X21/X22 miss a total of two stops between New Street Station and University Station both on Bath Row. The only other difference to the 98/99 is that they don't serve the stop directly outside the QE.
And outbound I think there's a 3rd stop they don't call at on Pritchatts Road after the North Gate stop.
Quote from: Kevin on June 14, 2020, 05:41:29 PM
Ah yes, that one stop they miss out on Bath Row...
2 stops are missed out on Bath Row. They only serve the Granville Street stop.
Quote from: Busboy105 on June 14, 2020, 05:39:47 PM
What do you mean?
X8 and X10 are limited stop between Birmingham and Quinton.
X20,X21,X22 are limited stop between Birmingham and Q.E Hospital. I believe the X20 also goes limited stop between Selly Oak and Longbridge as well.
The X21 and X22 are not very limited stop at all. They miss like 2 stops on Bath Row that's it.
Guys, can we keep this on-topic regarding Wolverhampton garage and its services please?
If anyone wants to start an argument discussion about limited stop services in general, please start a new topic.
Quote from: Stu on June 14, 2020, 06:35:00 PM
Guys, can we keep this on-topic regarding Wolverhampton garage and its services please?
If anyone wants to start an argument discussion about limited stop services in general, please start a new topic.
Didn't a former obsessive but rather deranged poster on this forum used to make numerous posts about the X8 being operated by Wolverhampton Garage or am I as Bucks Fizz would so wonderfully put it living in "The Land Of Make Believe"
Quote from: Stu on June 14, 2020, 06:35:00 PM
Guys, can we keep this on-topic regarding Wolverhampton garage and its services please?
If anyone wants to start an argument discussion about limited stop services in general, please start a new topic.
Sorry, we can get carried away so easily sometimes, it's actually laughable
Quote from: WyreForestShuttle on June 14, 2020, 06:50:01 PM
Didn't a former obsessive but rather deranged poster on this forum used to make numerous posts about the X8 being operated by Wolverhampton Garage or am I as Bucks Fizz would so wonderfully put it living in "The Land Of Make Believe"
What does that have to do with my request to keep this thread 'on-topic'?
You want to be careful mate, that 'former poster' you refer to also had a habit of taking threads off-topic, as well as making references to 80s pop bands, so you best stick to the Worcestershire area of this forum before you blow your cover.
Quote from: ellspurs on June 14, 2020, 05:34:04 PM
If you look at the area maps, there are quite a few roads that are only served by the 529. It also appears to be the only direct route between both Wolverhampton and Willenhall, and Willenhall and Walsall.
I don't think the train will have much of an effect on it, especially if the train is only running every 30 minutes (bus is currently at every 10 minutes; I was sure it used to have a higher frequency).
Really? I'm sure an approximately 12 minute train journey, as opposed to a near 40 minute bus journey will attract some passengers (even quicker for those travelling from Willenhall)
Can only really see it attracting end to end passengers (which I imagine is only a small percentage of the passengers on the 529)
Quote from: Lukeee on June 14, 2020, 11:15:18 PM
Can only really see it attracting end to end passengers (which I imagine is only a small percentage of the passengers on the 529)
You don't think a direct, faster service via train from Willenhall to both Walsall and Wolverhampton will attract passengers? Interesting
Quote from: Sh4318 on June 14, 2020, 11:24:37 PM
You don't think a direct, faster service via train from Willenhall to both Walsall and Wolverhampton will attract passengers? Interesting
If anything, it could benefit the 529. This new train line could easily kill off the 529 like the Metro did with the 79.
Quote from: Lukeee on June 14, 2020, 11:15:18 PM
Can only really see it attracting end to end passengers (which I imagine is only a small percentage of the passengers on the 529)
You'd be surprised, the only times I've really caught the 529 have been to use it end to end, and while obviously not everyone on board a fair proportion of other passengers have been the same. It is after all a key route linking two major centres, any bus passengers from various parts of Walsall and North Brum will use it as part of their journey to Wolves
Quote from: Busboy105 on June 14, 2020, 11:33:18 PM
If anything, it could benefit the 529. This new train line could easily kill off the 529 like the Metro did with the 79.
What? That makes absolutely no sense at all. How would killing a route off benefit it?
Quote from: Kevin on June 15, 2020, 07:14:04 AM
You'd be surprised, the only times I've really caught the 529 have been to use it end to end, and while obviously not everyone on board a fair proportion of other passengers have been the same. It is after all a key route linking two major centres, any bus passengers from various parts of Walsall and North Brum will use it as part of their journey to Wolves
I stand corrected, I assumed it would be like Bristol road etc with a lot of people using it for shorter journeys
Quote from: Lukeee on June 15, 2020, 09:11:17 AM
I stand corrected, I assumed it would be like Bristol road etc with a lot of people using it for shorter journeys
The 529 is quite a short route anyway.
Quote from: Pat on June 15, 2020, 08:58:54 AM
What? That makes absolutely no sense at all. How would killing a route off benefit it?
I didn't say killing a route off would benefit it. I said that the new Wolves-Walsall line could help the 529.
Quote from: Pat on June 15, 2020, 09:25:56 AM
The 529 is quite a short route anyway.
The 529 probably has more short journies made on it than any other route
Quote from: Busboy105 on June 14, 2020, 11:33:18 PM
If anything, it could benefit the 529. This new train line could easily kill off the 529 like the Metro did with the 79.
^^^^^^
Quote from: Busboy105 on June 15, 2020, 12:18:56 PM
I didn't say killing a route off would benefit it. I said that the new Wolves-Walsall line could help the 529.
No you didn't. You said that "it could benefit the 529" and that "the new train line could easily kill off the 529."
Anyway, how could it help the 529? Taking passengers away doesn't benefit NX in the slightest, as they are losing out in revenue.
Quote from: Tony on June 15, 2020, 12:26:48 PM
The 529 probably has more short journies made on it than any other route
This is what my thinking was about.
The Metro makes stops pretty much at every key point along the Birmingham - Wolverhampton route. You could look at it as essentially a limited stop bus service, albeit a lot quicker and frequent. This train will only be stopping at three points on the 529 route: Wolverhampton, Willenhall, and Walsall, all at a lesser frequency than the 529.
Willenhall train station will probably be a great benefit to the local community, especially if services other than the Walsall - Wolverhampton service call there. Even then, anyone who doesn't live within walking distance of the station will be catching the bus there, as I can't see where they'd put a Park and Ride.
Should have made a thread for this discussion, perhaps admins can move it for me?
5423 has arrived.
753 is back from paint.
5422 out in service on the 1 today for the first time, just 4 of the 30 missing now
Quote from: Tony on June 19, 2020, 06:55:20 PM
5422 out in service on the 1 today for the first time, just 4 of the 30 missing now
5423 should be out tomorrow as well.
5409 yesterday
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/5001-9959/5409.html
Quote from: Tony on June 20, 2020, 09:34:15 AM
5409 yesterday
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/5001-9959/5409.html
When will it be back in the west midlands
Quote from: BH2004 on June 20, 2020, 11:03:40 AM
When will it be back in the west midlands
Hopefully 4-6 weeks
Quote from: Tony on June 20, 2020, 11:38:39 AM
Hopefully 4-6 weeks
Is there no next stop announcements anymore on the number 1?
Quote from: l.murphy123 on June 20, 2020, 01:26:40 PM
Is there no next stop announcements anymore on the number 1?
There isn't any on the 4's anymore, ever since they lost the 'Super X' displays they went.
Why is 5409 at WYMS
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on June 21, 2020, 12:48:53 PM
Conversion to diesel
How come it's being done up there?
Quote from: Pat on June 21, 2020, 01:47:55 PM
How come it's being done up there?
They did 5402/12, 5409 had been at another company for years and done nothing so NX sent it up to EYMS to convert like her sisters 5402/12
Quote from: Pat on June 21, 2020, 01:47:55 PM
How come it's being done up there?
Because they are the best!
They have done them for companies as far apart as Lothian to Reading
Quote from: Tony on June 21, 2020, 02:22:22 PM
Because they are the best!
They have done them for companies as far apart as Lothian to Reading
Ahh right. What is involved in converting from hybrid to diesel? I presume it is more than just replacing parts of an engine?
Quote from: Pat on June 21, 2020, 02:49:16 PM
Ahh right. What is involved in converting from hybrid to diesel? I presume it is more than just replacing parts of an engine?
The main part is removing the batteries and traction motors and fitting a gearbox, then changing the electrics to match the new configuration
Quote from: Tony on June 21, 2020, 02:22:22 PM
Because they are the best!
They have done them for companies as far apart as Lothian to Reading
East Yorkshire had a batch of 10 early E400Hs of their own which date from 2011. EYMS converted them all to diesel in-house so they learnt how to do it with those 10 and then offered to do the same for other purchasers of E400Hs.
Why is 5412 at EYMS as well?
How long did PCS have 5409 and I presume they've done some work on it (I think it was indicated on this forum it had been started up and had been running earlier in the year.
Quote from: Tony on June 21, 2020, 03:00:44 PM
The main part is removing the batteries and traction motors and fitting a gearbox, then changing the electrics to match the new configuration
Tony this is just out of curiosity & nothing more following the PLC Announcement to move to a fully hybrid fleet at NX what is the reason NXWM are converting these early hybrids to diesel?
Quote from: WyreForestShuttle on June 21, 2020, 08:42:07 PM
Tony this is just out of curiosity & nothing more following the PLC Announcement to move to a fully hybrid fleet at NX what is the reason NXWM are converting these early hybrids to diesel?
The PLC has not announce it is moving to a fully hybrid fleet, it has announced it is moving to zero emission fleet. A 9 year old hybrid is worse on emissions than a five year old diesel so bringing these up to date is still a step towards zero emission
Quote from: Tony on June 21, 2020, 08:50:22 PM
The PLC has not announce it is moving to a fully hybrid fleet, it has announced it is moving to zero emission fleet. A 9 year old hybrid is worse on emissions than a five year old diesel so bringing these up to date is still a step towards zero emission
Thank you for that, much appreciated, I wasn't aware overall that a five year old diesel has much cleaner emissions than a 9 year old hybrid in real terms its good to see NXWM leading the way here, cheers.
Quote from: WyreForestShuttle on June 21, 2020, 08:59:28 PM
Thank you for that, much appreciated, I wasn't aware overall that a five year old diesel has much cleaner emissions than a 9 year old hybrid in real terms its good to see NXWM leading the way here, cheers.
2015 was when vehicles stepped up to Euro 6 which was a huge step up. 2011/2013 hybrids were Euro 5, and only better than diesels of the time by having better fuel consumption, so less fuel = less fuel cost and the less fuel being used meant less emissions. As the batteries derogate fuel consumption slowly slips towards standard diesels meaning no advantage at all
Quote from: Tony on June 21, 2020, 09:09:48 PM
2015 was when vehicles stepped up to Euro 6 which was a huge step up. 2011/2013 hybrids were Euro 5, and only better than diesels of the time by having better fuel consumption, so less fuel = less fuel cost and the less fuel being used meant less emissions. As the batteries derogate fuel consumption slowly slips towards standard diesels meaning no advantage at all
Thank you Tony, I know I come across as a now it all at times but that is a failing on my part I agree due too sadly my background in the regulatory bodies of our industry and my other work of a more political nature for which I apologise, the technical aspects sometimes I am not clear of so my thanks to you for your clarification it is most appreciated it aids so much to my understanding.
Would the reason why the hybrids were debranded a year or two ago and put into crimson anything to do with the conversions?
Quote from: Pat on June 21, 2020, 10:14:59 PM
Would the reason why the hybrids were debranded a year or two ago and put into crimson anything to do with the conversions?
No, they were done for the golf at Carnoustie
Quote from: Jack on June 20, 2020, 04:54:36 PM
There isn't any on the 4's anymore, ever since they lost the 'Super X' displays they went.
The Walsall 4/4H/4M? That's a shame too.
5429 is in service on the 15/16
Quote from: l.murphy123 on June 21, 2020, 10:48:00 PM
The Walsall 4/4H/4M? That's a shame too.
Yes. Considering you use to complain the guys Black Country accent sounded miserable, I beg to differ.
Quote from: l.murphy123 on June 21, 2020, 10:48:00 PM
The Walsall 4/4H/4M? That's a shame too.
I don't understand why NX would want to get rid of the next stop announcements. They are helpful and reassuring to non regulars on the route. Plus, they've taken the time to record the announcements and spend money on installing the equipment onto the bus.
Quote from: Pat on June 22, 2020, 12:35:47 PM
I don't understand why NX would want to get rid of the next stop announcements. They are helpful and reassuring to non regulars on the route. Plus, they've taken the time to record the announcements and spend money on installing the equipment onto the bus.
Not that Scanias are used on the 4/4H/4M now. Is this a long term solution?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 22, 2020, 12:37:27 PM
Not that Scanias are used on the 4/4H/4M now. Is this a long term solution?
There are still odd Omnilinks appearing on the 4H some days.
Mostly Crimson Tridents & odd E400's
Quote from: Winston on June 22, 2020, 12:40:40 PM
There are still odd Omnilinks appearing on the 4H some days.
Mostly Crimson Tridents & odd E400's
The 45 is also now mainly Tridents and E400's, and Platinums on sundays.
Quote from: Jack on June 22, 2020, 12:28:54 PM
Yes. Considering you use to complain the guys Black Country accent sounded miserable, I beg to differ.
No I didn't. I made a joking passing comment once but certainly wasn't a complaint.
847 joining the refurb list.
753 will be out tomorrow.
5424 delivered today.
has it been confirmed that wn are receiving all of pn 44** batch of tridents?
Quote from: Trident4590 on June 26, 2020, 10:42:07 PM
has it been confirmed that wn are receiving all of pn 44** batch of tridents?
No, and they aren't
For anyone interested 4535 is on a Private Hire today Currently Heading towards Stafford via Wolverhampton before returning to Birmingham.
4936 moving from RTC repairs at PB to refurb/crimson at Walsall tomorrow, another long missing bus heading for a return
Quote from: Tony on July 09, 2020, 08:19:29 PM
4936 moving from RTC repairs at PB to refurb/crimson at Walsall tomorrow, another long missing bus heading for a return
Good news, about time.
Quote from: Trident4590 on June 26, 2020, 10:42:07 PM
has it been confirmed that wn are receiving all of pn 44** batch of tridents?
plan changed, now they are
How long has 4425 had it's stopping sign moved to grab pole next to the back of the side destination display?
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on July 09, 2020, 10:09:46 PM
How long has 4425 had it's stopping sign moved to grab pole next to the back of the side destination display?
i don't understand by grab pole
Quote from: SK68MEV on July 10, 2020, 12:59:27 AM
i don't understand by grab pole
What do you hold onto when walking up or down the bus?
Quote from: John on July 10, 2020, 08:42:16 AM
What do you hold onto when walking up or down the bus?
sorry I've never given it a name
849 & 2093 now back from paint and on the road.
@Tony 6780 isn't tracking it's on the 8/X8 today just to let you know
Why has short workings on some WN route been removed? Cause I saw 15 Spring Hill via Bradmore. To me it should still say 15E Spring Hill Part Route so people know it's not the full route also of if wa coming from Merry hill it wouldn't have via Bramore
I imagine most, if not all, the wolves No 1 route would be operated by the original
54xx lower numbers ie 5401-21? Are there currently any nailed- on duties for the
Ex dundee group ie 5422-30? I have only seen 5422 working recently
on a 60 ? Service I think it was. thanks
Quote from: windy miller on August 04, 2020, 02:35:47 AM
I imagine most, if not all, the wolves No 1 route would be operated by the original
54xx lower numbers ie 5401-21? Are there currently any nailed- on duties for the
Ex dundee group ie 5422-30? I have only seen 5422 working recently
on a 60 ? Service I think it was. thanks
Wolverhampton today i saw ex Dundee 54xx's working the 1, 16 & 82 services along with several of the original Wolverhampton batch, so there appears to be no differences in their service allocation. A 'Trident' was also working on the 1.
Quote from: JIM H on August 04, 2020, 03:37:58 PM
Wolverhampton today i saw ex Dundee 54xx's working the 1, 16 & 82 services along with several of the original Wolverhampton batch, so there appears to be no differences in their service allocation. A 'Trident' was also working on the 1.
I saw all except 5427 today. EIther I missed it or it wasn't out
Quote from: John on August 04, 2020, 07:13:47 PM
I saw all except 5427 today. EIther I missed it or it wasn't out
Not been out since 27th July
Quote from: Tony on August 04, 2020, 07:17:21 PM
Not been out since 27th July
It decided to mate itself with a Toyota RAV 4. You won't see it for a bit.
Any idea if Wolves will be getting it's own 'Greatest Hits Radio' liveried bus in the near future, seeing 'Signal 107' is turning into GHR in about a month or so's time?
(Assuming our 'friends' at Bauer Media are talking to the relavant ad agencies, that organise this sort of thing?)
Quote from: Westy on August 08, 2020, 04:03:44 PM
Any idea if Wolves will be getting it's own 'Greatest Hits Radio' liveried bus in the near future, seeing 'Signal 107' is turning into GHR in about a month or so's time?
(Assuming our 'friends' at Bauer Media are talking to the relavant ad agencies, that organise this sort of thing?)
I very much doubt it. The advertising contract for the others finished months ago
Quote from: Tony on August 08, 2020, 04:08:26 PM
I very much doubt it. The advertising contract for the others finished months ago
Noticing on your recent changes list, that sister vehicles 4345 & 4347 have been withdrawn, plus (correct me if I'm wrong!) that vehicles not far off being withdrawn tended to have the ad liveries on(But what about the E400 in Birmingham also in GHR livery? I suppose that will go to crimson, if it hasn't already?), so does that mean 4346 is being withdrawn in GHR livery?
Quote from: Westy on August 08, 2020, 04:55:59 PM
Noticing on your recent changes list, that sister vehicles 4345 & 4347 have been withdrawn, plus (correct me if I'm wrong!) that vehicles not far off being withdrawn tended to have the ad liveries on(But what about the E400 in Birmingham also in GHR livery? I suppose that will go to crimson, if it hasn't already?), so does that mean 4346 is being withdrawn in GHR livery?
4286 still has the GH advert.
@Tony Can you 'have a word' with whoever you need to speak to, re the 60 please, as it's supposed to serve both Park Road & Wolverhampton Road in Bloxwich, but this lady I was talking to just, says it went off Park Road without her, but served Wolverhampton Road, as I saw it.
She is now late for work at New Cross she says.
Quote from: Westy on August 20, 2020, 07:27:34 AM
@Tony Can you 'have a word' with whoever you need to speak to, re the 60 please, as it's supposed to serve both Park Road & Wolverhampton Road in Bloxwich, but this lady I was talking to just, says it went off Park Road without her, but served Wolverhampton Road, as I saw it.
She is now late for work at New Cross she says.
Does it serve park road on high street? Need to get off the X51 and straight onto the 60 when ai commute come September. Its a tight gap.
X529 launches 1st September which will be brilliant. There was conversation about the concept a few weeks back on the forum but didn't expect it. Info on NX site.
Already being discussed here
;
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=5843.msg282627#msg282627
What will be the allocation of the X529
Quote from: BH2004 on August 20, 2020, 05:00:31 PM
What will be the allocation of the X529
Platinums probably.
Quote from: Busboy105 on August 20, 2020, 06:00:16 PM
Platinums probably.
Possibly not. The 529 is having a frequency increase which will mean an increase in PVR.
Quote from: l.murphy123 on August 20, 2020, 10:03:41 AM
Does it serve park road on high street? Need to get off the X51 and straight onto the 60 when ai commute come September. Its a tight gap.
According to my sister, it's supposed to, as she got 'caught' the other way once, by it only stopping at Park Road & not Wolverhampton Road, where she was.
Must admit I've only ever caught it at Wolverhampton Road & before that, the corner of High Street!
Park Road is only for the benefit of the Pelsall passengers who used to catch the 89!
Quote from: Westy on August 20, 2020, 07:27:34 AM
@Tony Can you 'have a word' with whoever you need to speak to, re the 60 please, as it's supposed to serve both Park Road & Wolverhampton Road in Bloxwich, but this lady I was talking to just, says it went off Park Road without her, but served Wolverhampton Road, as I saw it.
She is now late for work at New Cross she says.
When?
Quote from: Tony on August 20, 2020, 06:24:37 PM
When?
It happened this morning.
It affected the 706am from Bloxwich.
Quote from: Westy on August 20, 2020, 06:08:07 PM
Must admit I've only ever caught it at Wolverhampton Road & before that, the corner of High Street!
I dont think it does, that stop is for dropping off before bloxwich. However, just looked at the new timetables and there is now an 18 minute gap between the X51 arrival and 60 leaving so im safe. Only traffic changes on the 60 from what I can see.
Quote from: l.murphy123 on August 20, 2020, 07:40:11 PM
I dont think it does, that stop is for dropping off before bloxwich. However, just looked at the new timetables and there is now an 18 minute gap between the X51 arrival and 60 leaving so im safe. Only traffic changes on the 60 from what I can see.
Didn't know the 60 was changing!
Looks like I'll have to get the printer out!
Just had a quick look & that 0706 I mentioned has gone, replaced by a 0718, which means it will jostle for space with the 0715 326, as that normally runs late!
Quote from: Busboy105 on August 20, 2020, 06:00:16 PM
Platinums probably.
Is it actually to be a Wolverhampton route -
the stops are listed from the Walsall end?
Quote from: mikestone on August 20, 2020, 10:40:22 PM
Is it actually to be a Wolverhampton route -
the stops are listed from the Walsall end?
It is a WN route, as the NX website lists Park Lane for lost property.
What's happend to 4928 cause I havent seen it for a while
Quote from: BH2004 on August 31, 2020, 11:06:28 AM
What's happend to 4928 cause I havent seen it for a while
See repaint list
Quote from: BH2004 on August 31, 2020, 03:35:43 PM
4928 isnt on the repaint list
Well its in for paint.
Does anyone have any idea as to what vehicles the X529 is using?
Quote from: bususer28 on September 03, 2020, 09:42:58 PM
Does anyone have any idea as to what vehicles the X529 is using?
Noted a 45xx Trident on there yesterday
I suppose, due to the pandemic, updating of route branding will take time too, as the normal 529 is supposed to be 6 to 8 mins now, I believe, but branding is still every 7 mins!
Quote from: Westy on September 03, 2020, 10:31:50 PM
I suppose, due to the pandemic, updating of route branding will take time too, as the normal 529 is supposed to be 6 to 8 mins now, I believe, but branding is still every 7 mins!
I doubt they'll update the branding for a minor change like that. It'd only get updated if it was to include the X529 also I'd have thought.
Surprised nobody mentioned 729 on the 2 today.
Quote from: MasterPlan on September 03, 2020, 10:35:29 PM
I doubt they'll update the branding for a minor change like that. It'd only get updated if it was to include the X529 also I'd have thought.
When a route says 'Every few minutes', is there an actual definition of what every few minutes is?
Quote from: Westy on September 09, 2020, 10:00:31 PM
When a route says 'Every few minutes', is there an actual definition of what every few minutes is?
Dont quote me on this but was always under the impression that every few minutes counts as any route with 6 or more departures within an hour
Quote from: BN on September 09, 2020, 06:54:50 PM
Surprised nobody mentioned 729 on the 2 today.
Bloody hell its finally out! I'd laugh if it dropped on the 15/16/8 one of the days lol
Not sure whether to put this on the Walsall thread or here.
I'll put it here as it's the 529.
Should Nbus Walsall be valid from the Willenhall Lock Museum stop towards Walsall on Nx vehicles, as I have no trouble with Diamond 326 back to Bloxwich, but 5424 has refused my Swift Card?
Quote from: Westy on September 14, 2020, 04:24:08 PM
Not sure whether to put this on the Walsall thread or here.
I'll put it here as it's the 529.
Should Nbus Walsall be valid from the Willenhall Lock Museum stop towards Walsall on Nx vehicles, as I have no trouble with Diamond 326 back to Bloxwich, but 5424 has refused my Swift Card?
It should be as that road is under Walsall council maybe try another nx bus from that location then report it to nx
There doesnt seem to be enough platinums for the 529 / X529. Not seen an X529 not platinum yet but several 529's I have. Seen platinums on non-plat routes though? Should they not prioritise?
Quote from: l.murphy123 on September 14, 2020, 06:52:41 PM
Seen platinums on non-plat routes though? Should they not prioritise?
It's generally the fact that a platinum isn't available when they need them to go out on said platinum route. They become available later in the day so another route gets them
I could be completely wrong though
Does the 5A still run?
Quote from: BH2004 on September 15, 2020, 12:47:42 PM
Does the 5A still run?
A quick trip to the NX website later...
No it doesn't. It's that obscure of a route I don't even remember NX announcing it being withdrawn.
Quote from: Busboy105 on September 15, 2020, 01:26:46 PM
A quick trip to the NX website later...
No it doesn't. It's that obscure of a route I don't even remember NX announcing it being withdrawn.
All the 5A did was go directly into Codsall and miss out Bilbrook, so hardly "obscure."
Quote from: Pat on September 16, 2020, 09:21:44 PM
All the 5A did was go directly into Codsall and miss out Bilbrook, so hardly "obscure."
I called it obscure because it's kind of weird to me. It's similar to the 6A in where it's basically runs for an hour or two hours when it could easily just be on a 5 or a 6.
Both the 5a and 6a date back to pre Wolverhampton review routes 535A & 506/7A iirc
Quote from: Busboy105 on September 16, 2020, 10:59:43 PM
I called it obscure because it's kind of weird to me. It's similar to the 6A in where it's basically runs for an hour or two hours when it could easily just be on a 5 or a 6.
Nope. The 5A ran every 30 minutes direct between Wolverhampton & Codsall. It basically complemented the 5 and combined with it's 30 minute frequency to provide a 15 minute frequency between Wolverhampton - Claregate - Codsall.
2136 now at Graysons
@BN have drivers of the 8 complained about the low hanging trees on Penfields Road? Everytime I get off the bus at the Snowden Road stop the bus hits the low hanging branches quite hard?
4935 back at WN on the 16 with the Perry Barr version of the 16 on the destination boards
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on September 26, 2020, 09:00:55 AM
4935 back at WN on the 16 with the Perry Barr version of the 16 on the destination boards
Perry Barr?
Quote from: bbs on September 26, 2020, 10:43:24 AM
Perry Barr?
It was on loan to Perry Barr yesterday
Quote from: bbs on September 26, 2020, 10:43:24 AM
Perry Barr?
Instead of 16 Stourbridge, it was displaying 16 Hamstead via Hockney as it is 4935 first day back from being on loan to Perry Barr
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on September 26, 2020, 11:16:50 AM
Instead of 16 Stourbridge, it was displaying 16 Hamstead via Hockney as it is 4935 first day back from being on loan to Perry Barr
Are there any photos.
Looks like 6795 taking part in the Showbus Flyby today along the A40
I can confirm that 6795 took part in the Showbus Flyby as I saw it in West Wycombe yesterday afternoon.
It seems to be that the 15/16 are running as single Deckers today as there is no double Deckers out on there
2018 (3/4)
2139
2087
2017 (3/4)
2063
2002
2020 (3/4)
2014 (3/4)
2016 (3/4)
2122
2065
2080
2064
2084
2021 (3/4)
2022 (3/4)
Quote from: BH2004 on October 15, 2020, 08:16:54 AM
It seems to be that the 15/16 are running as single Deckers today as there is no double Deckers out on there
2018 (3/4)
2139
2087
2017 (3/4)
2063
2002
2020 (3/4)
2014 (3/4)
2016 (3/4)
2122
2065
2080
2064
2084
2021 (3/4)
2022 (3/4)
Wonder why is there anyroad works on the route
Quote from: Jack6101 on October 15, 2020, 10:37:00 AM
Wonder why is there anyroad works on the route
there are road works but the diversion route is going back on itself so double deckers should be fine on the route
The reason last time was low hanging trees at Hinksford.
Saw 2092 on the 15 at 17:10 nearly full, hopefully double decker are allowed on again soon
Quote from: BH2004 on October 21, 2020, 05:10:44 PM
Saw 2092 on the 15 at 17:10 nearly full, hopefully double decker are allowed on again soon
15/16 back to single deckers after a weekend of the deckers coming back on the routes
One of the hybrid buses on the 60 last week was showing National Express Dundee on the screen... said to the lady next to me "think I've got the wrong bus" lol. I know they used to be in Dundee hence the green seats.
Single Deckers B7's on the 15/16 again today, I wonder why cause Saturday and Sunday 15/16 we fully double decker
Quote from: l.murphy123 on October 26, 2020, 09:02:28 PM
One of the hybrid buses on the 60 last week was showing National Express Dundee on the screen... said to the lady next to me "think I've got the wrong bus" lol. I know they used to be in Dundee hence the green seats.
They always had the green and yellow interior. All NX hybrids do.
Quote from: BH2004 on October 26, 2020, 09:12:41 PM
Single Deckers B7's on the 15/16 again today, I wonder why cause Saturday and Sunday 15/16 we fully double decker
Perhaps I've missed a post somewhere. Why are the 15/16 single decker?
Quote from: Sh4318 on October 26, 2020, 09:58:48 PM
Perhaps I've missed a post somewhere. Why are the 15/16 single decker?
Last week they were single deckers due to low branches in wall Heath, reverted to deckers on Saturday and Sunday and returned to singles today. Not sure if there has been more tree issues since causes the return to singles
Quote from: Pat on October 26, 2020, 09:18:47 PM
They always had the green and yellow interior. All NX hybrids do.
Oh wasn't sure whether it was a theme for the fact they are hybrids or the Explore Dundee colours
What are the best routes at WN garage?
Routes with low anti social behaviour, good reliability, low levels of fraud, good buses etc?
Quote from: aSingh on November 01, 2020, 03:21:35 PM
What are the best routes at WN garage?
Routes with low anti social behaviour, good reliability, low levels of fraud, good buses etc?
The 15 & the 16 are good routes, nice and scenic. They are allocated single deckers at the moment (mainly B7RLE's) which aren't bad buses from my POV as a passenger. Fraud/ant-social behavior wise I'm the wrong person to ask.
Quote from: BusMan Greg on November 01, 2020, 04:58:41 PM
The 15 & the 16 are good routes, nice and scenic. They are allocated single deckers at the moment (mainly B7RLE's) which aren't bad buses from my POV as a passenger. Fraud/ant-social behavior wise I'm the wrong person to ask.
Nice route, but can be a nightmare reliability wise. Traffic in Brierley Hill and Kingswinford is the main problem.
Quote from: Pat on November 01, 2020, 05:36:07 PM
Nice route, but can be a nightmare reliability wise. Traffic in Brierley Hill and Kingswinford is the main problem.
If only they had built a road which could act as a bypass of Kingswinford... such as a motorway
What about the 3, 4, 5, 6 and 10s?
Also which WB service is 529 most similar too in terms of how busy it is, reliability? I'm asking these questions as I am thinking of moving to WN from WB in the near future.
Quote from: BusMan Greg on November 01, 2020, 04:58:41 PM
The 15 & the 16 are good routes, nice and scenic. They are allocated single deckers at the moment (mainly B7RLE's) which aren't bad buses from my POV as a passenger. Fraud/ant-social behavior wise I'm the wrong person to ask.
Asked a former WN driver and he also liked the route and the people. 👍 Didn't mention the reliability and fraud side of it though.
Quote from: aSingh on November 01, 2020, 03:21:35 PM
What are the best routes at WN garage?
Routes with low anti social behaviour, good reliability, low levels of fraud, good buses etc?
I quite like the 15/16 and 69 personally
Quote from: Sh4318 on November 01, 2020, 10:13:22 PM
I quite like the 15/16 and 69 personally
Same for me, can include the 1 too for me.
Quote from: aSingh on November 01, 2020, 06:15:24 PM
Asked a former WN driver and he also liked the route and the people. 👍 Didn't mention the reliability and fraud side of it though.
When you say fraud, are you referring to people not paying? I never understand why this is such an issue for some drivers. If somebody doesn't pay, surely the easiest thing to do is press the anomaly button. Why turn the engine off and throw a tantrum. Bus drivers talk about how stressful their job is... it's not stressful at all. A lot of drivers give themselves grief for no reason.
As a driver myself who's driven for NX on the 11A/11C, I never found the day to day driving stressful no matter how many passengers paid or didn't pay. The anomaly button is there for a reason! The only time I had an issue with a passenger is when he missed his stop and then got aggressive.
Quote from: MW on November 02, 2020, 12:11:05 AM
When you say fraud, are you referring to people not paying? I never understand why this is such an issue for some drivers. If somebody doesn't pay, surely the easiest thing to do is press the anomaly button. Why turn the engine off and throw a tantrum. Bus drivers talk about how stressful their job is... it's not stressful at all. A lot of drivers give themselves grief for no reason.
As a driver myself who's driven for NX on the 11A/11C, I never found the day to day driving stressful no matter how many passengers paid or didn't pay. The anomaly button is there for a reason! The only time I had an issue with a passenger is when he missed his stop and then got aggressive.
Was just asking Jeez, never asked for a lecture. Mind you, I do drive the 74 and 82/87 and have for the past 3 years so I am quite comfortable with people just walking past me everyday. But I do agree with you, some drivers do take it personally, I guess they just don't understand that some people have a hard time making decent amount of money with food, rent/mortgage, bills etc their main concern.
When I go on the 48 which is a great route with good reliability, people, fraud, I find it a breeze compared the 74, 82,87. Just like comparing.
Regarding stress, haven't had many drivers complain of this job being stressful. The ones that are still driving are okay with it and will probably exaggerate their situation as we all like complaining for a bit of fun. The ones that found it stressful have left.
Again I just wanted to know what are the best routes at WN garage because I just want to know. if I decide in future to move there I will have a bit of information about the areas and garage.
Anyway anyone else like to add their favoirite and/or best WN routes.
Quote from: aSingh on November 02, 2020, 02:04:37 AM
I guess they just don't understand that some people have a hard time making decent amount of money with food, rent/mortgage, bills etc their main concern.
I'm sure some people who have difficulty making decent amount of money to pay food, rent, bills, etc do still pay there bus fare.
No excuse at all in my opinion.
The sort that I used to see not paying also used to be the sort that would go and sit on the top deck smoking, etc.
Excellent that some drivers don't allow people to get away with it I think, I remember a driver on the 55 who told someone (youth) to get off at the next stop as he was trying to use a dodgy ticket on his phone at the start of 2020, would have been around January.
Don't see why he should get away with it to be honest and doubt he had any bills to pay. Also saw similar on AG 4 route recently, driver put the alarm on and they got off shortly.
Quote from: 2206 on November 02, 2020, 02:41:20 AM
I'm sure some people who have difficulty making decent amount of money to pay food, rent, bills, etc do still pay there bus fare.
No excuse at all in my opinion.
The sort that I used to see not paying also used to be the sort that would go and sit on the top deck smoking, etc.
Excellent that some drivers don't allow people to get away with it I think, I remember a driver on the 55 who told someone (youth) to get off at the next stop as he was trying to use a dodgey ticket on his phone at the start of 2020, would have been around January.
Don't see why he should get away with it to be honest and doubt he had any bills to pay. Also saw similar on AG 4 route recently.
Everyone's situation varies, I just like to be mindful that they could be going through a hard period in their life to which I really don't want to add to and also do not want to be in the firing line if I do do something that agitates them like asking to pay, check ticket or bus pass again. They are very likely to remember my face than I am theirs, I don't want to get stabbed. So I just press the anomaly button and if needed the anti social button which let's revenue and safer travel do the policing through the data.
Remember travelling on the 82 from Bearwood not long after the Enviro 400s came onto the route. I was sat on the front nearside seat, a guy got on at the Barleycorn with a ticket and showed it back to front, the driver stopped him, it was an out of date daysaver. He told him, you want to get away with using an out of date ticket show it normally, the print is so faint on most of em we can't read them.
I guess the bigger tickets with the printed word of the day are a big help.
Quote from: aSingh on November 02, 2020, 02:04:37 AM
Anyway anyone else like to add their favoirite and/or best WN routes.
Personal favourites for me are the 10s in particular 10A and 10B. The 54/A used to be incredible going through the countryside, relatively quiet throughout the day but sadly it no longer exists. :(
Double decker operation has been restored on the 15 and 16.
5409 will be at Wolverhampton garage later tonight!
Quote from: Tony on November 06, 2020, 05:34:02 PM
5409 will be at Wolverhampton garage later tonight!
How long has she been absent for 2 years?
Quote from: Tony on November 06, 2020, 05:34:02 PM
5409 will be at Wolverhampton garage later tonight!
Its now arrived back home.
The WN 8 now has next stop annocements on the platinums
Quote from: Tony on November 06, 2020, 05:34:02 PM
5409 will be at Wolverhampton garage later tonight!
Crikey. Some might say not before time. I'd suspect it will be Walsall bound for a much needed repaint too......
Quote from: markcf83 on November 07, 2020, 09:16:33 PM
Crikey. Some might say not before time. I'd suspect it will be Walsall bound for a much needed repaint too......
Fingers crossed it will be there on Wednesday.
435 has landed.
Quote from: BN on November 13, 2020, 10:18:31 AM
435 has landed.
Anyone know what it's likely to be on?
Quote from: Pat on November 14, 2020, 12:26:31 PM
Anyone know what it's likely to be on?
I'd guess 62/62A and 61s
Quote from: 900 on November 14, 2020, 12:30:41 PM
I'd guess 62/62A and 61s
Thought so. 50s too maybe?
Quote from: Pat on November 14, 2020, 12:26:31 PM
Anyone know what it's likely to be on?
Driver traing for the week at the bus station.
Looking at the photo on this site, 435 sorta reminds me of a Solo !
(Well the front end does!)
Quote from: Westy on November 14, 2020, 08:17:00 PM
Looking at the photo on this site, 435 sorta reminds me of a Solo !
(Well the front end does!)
Yes, they both have the 'wheel forward' design - much easier to get round tight streets, as there is no overhang.
Quote from: Pat on November 14, 2020, 08:36:38 PM
Yes, they both have the 'wheel forward' design - much easier to get round tight streets, as there is no overhang.
If Nx ever win the 326 contract, can we have some at Walsall please?
Quote from: Westy on November 16, 2020, 11:15:50 AM
If Nx ever win the 326 contract, can we have some at Walsall please?
You don't want them, trust me! Horrible things. Solos are a far better product, in my view.
Quote from: Pat on November 16, 2020, 12:29:52 PM
You don't want them, trust me! Horrible things. Solos are a far better product, in my view.
Give me a streetlite over a e200 anyday. But a solo trumps both
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 16, 2020, 12:57:31 PM
Give me a streetlite over a e200 anyday. But a solo trumps both
I'd have anything over a Voith E200.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 16, 2020, 12:57:31 PM
Give me a streetlite over a e200 anyday. But a solo trumps both
Yes, definitely. The solo is a much nicer vehicle. Smoother and more comfortable. The 'wheel forward' design gives for a nicer ride, as potholes are absorbed much better than an e200.
The Streetlites suspension is too hard. They rattle and the gearbox is jerky. Never known a Streetlite, or e200 for that matter, that doesn't rattle.
Quote from: Pat on November 16, 2020, 01:59:46 PM
Yes, definitely. The solo is a much nicer vehicle. Smoother and more comfortable. The 'wheel forward' design gives for a nicer ride, as potholes are absorbed much better than an e200.
The Streetlites suspension is too hard. They rattle and the gearbox is jerky. Never known a Streetlite, or e200 for that matter, that doesn't rattle.
Diamond 30168 (ERZ2028) is/was a rattle free Streetlite. It is/was also probably the smoothest Streetlite I've ever come across.
Quote from: MW on November 16, 2020, 03:06:05 PM
Diamond 30168 (ERZ2028) is/was a rattle free Streetlite. It is/was also probably the smoothest Streetlite I've ever come across.
The NXWM three are good as well, much better built than a solo, and the drive line is the same as an E200 so just as smooth if set up correctly
Quote from: Tony on November 16, 2020, 03:13:31 PM
The NXWM three are good as well, much better built than a solo, and the drive line is the same as an E200 so just as smooth if set up correctly
Diamond's don't seem to rattle much either, 20167 was faultless on the trip to Showbus and back last year. I haven't been on the NX ones much, but they seemed great too from what I remember.
Quote from: DJ on November 16, 2020, 03:45:41 PM
Diamond's don't seem to rattle much either, 20167 was faultless on the trip to Showbus and back last year. I haven't been on the NX ones much, but they seemed great too from what I remember.
These 68 plate and onwards Streetlites appear to be better built. How are 32307-310 doing? They were big rattlers on the Signatures, particularly 32310!
Quote from: Tony on November 16, 2020, 03:13:31 PM
The NXWM three are good as well, much better built than a solo, and the drive line is the same as an E200 so just as smooth if set up correctly
I have to agree. I've only travelled on them a few times but they do make for a pretty comfortable ride. It must just be me but I cannot stand solos- very rattly, really annoying and they have quite a 'plasticy' feel to them whereas NXs streetlites are really nice.
Are you all (wrongfully) comparing older Solos to these Streetlites because the 2010 onwards Solo 'SR' is far superior to the Streetlite WF...
Quote from: MW on November 16, 2020, 05:33:05 PM
Are you all (wrongfully) comparing older Solos to these Streetlites because the 2010 onwards Solo 'SR' is far superior to the Streetlite WF...
Even the older solos are better, in my view.
Quote from: Pat on November 16, 2020, 06:10:11 PM
Even the older solos are better, in my view.
From a driver's point of view I loved the old Solo design. We still have some at Worcester and they are in my opinion still great to drive. When we just to have a lot more, I occasionally got to have one on an evening 144 to Brum, a 55 mile round trip but a pleasure to do so in the nippy Solo. My favourite was 53044 which has sadly gone now but 53061/2 are still going strong even after 17 years.
Quote from: j789 on November 16, 2020, 06:22:07 PM
From a driver's point of view I loved the old Solo design. We still have some at Worcester and they are in my opinion still great to drive. When we just to have a lot more, I occasionally got to have one on an evening 144 to Brum, a 55 mile round trip but a pleasure to do so in the nippy Solo. My favourite was 53044 which has sadly gone now but 53061/2 are still going strong even after 17 years.
I don't mind driving solos, but there are many things with them that are poor design, like heavy batteries behind a big bar, so impossible to get out alone easily.
Quote from: Tony on November 16, 2020, 06:24:13 PM
I don't mind driving solos, but there are many things with them that are poor design, like heavy batteries behind a big bar, so impossible to get out alone easily.
Is that Solo/s NXWM acquired from WMSNT still with them or did they go for scrap? If still there, any chance they'd be returned to service for NEAT contracts and perhaps that 19reg e200 from Kings Ferry could be put into general passenger service?
Quote from: j789 on November 16, 2020, 06:34:43 PM
Is that Solo/s NXWM acquired from WMSNT still with them or did they go for scrap? If still there, any chance they'd be returned to service for NEAT contracts and perhaps that 19reg e200 from Kings Ferry could be put into general passenger service?
The 19 reg ex King's Ferry will be the main vehicle on the Warwickshire contracts.
Of the five solos One is in use as a filming vehicle in the training fleet, the other 4 are for sale.
Quote from: Tony on November 16, 2020, 03:13:31 PM
The NXWM three are good as well, much better built than a solo, and the drive line is the same as an E200 so just as smooth if set up correctly
You saying an e200 is smoother than a streetlite?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 16, 2020, 09:21:11 PM
You saying an e200 is smoother than a streetlite?
Yes. He is comparing Cummins/Voith set ups. So not including Euro 6 (Daimler engined) Streetlites, which I believe all of Tividales are.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 16, 2020, 09:21:11 PM
You saying an e200 is smoother than a streetlite?
Where have I written that?
Look out for 433 and 435 tomorrow.
Quote from: BN on November 25, 2020, 07:25:56 PM
Look out for 433 and 435 tomorrow.
Just interested what route would they be on
Quote from: BH2004 on November 25, 2020, 08:21:28 PM
Just interested what route would they be on
Well it doesn't take much working out does it?
The same routes the E200 minis are used on now
Quote from: Tony on November 25, 2020, 08:23:38 PM
Well it doesn't take much working out does it?
The same routes the E200 minis are used on now
It's a valid question - there's no need to be sarcastic! I think what
@BH2004 is referring to is what specific route they'll be on tomorrow i.e what out of 50,61,62/A?
Quote from: Pat on November 25, 2020, 08:31:54 PM
It's a valid question - there's no need to be sarcastic! I think what @BH2004 is referring to is what specific route they'll be on tomorrow i.e what out of 50,61,62/A?
The 50 isn't a minibus route. So they will be 2 of the three 61/62, as per which it is never worth asking the day before.
Quote from: Tony on November 25, 2020, 08:36:00 PM
The 50 isn't a minibus route. So they will be 2 of the three 61/62, as per which it is never worth asking the day before.
Right. How come WN have these now?
Quote from: Pat on November 25, 2020, 08:39:23 PM
Right. How come WN have these now?
Because I transferred them there as it was the best place for them.
Does anyone know what 433/5 is on today?
Quote from: Pat on November 26, 2020, 03:38:01 PM
Does anyone know what 433/5 is on today?
435 is currently on the 15 it replaced 4932
has 5429 been out today please ? if so on what route ? thank you
Quote from: Ken Taylor on December 10, 2020, 08:04:50 PM
has 5429 been out today please ? if so on what route ? thank you
No, not long back at WN from Graysons for preperations for Euro 6, not been out for a couple of weeks
ok thanks for that, i would be keen to know when it is in service.
Quote from: Ken Taylor on December 10, 2020, 08:32:45 PM
ok thanks for that, i would be keen to know when it is in service.
5429 is out on the 15 today
Tony, any idea what 5429 might be on tomorrow please, many thanks
Quote from: Ken Taylor on December 15, 2020, 07:08:14 PM
Tony, any idea what 5429 might be on tomorrow please, many thanks
It's impossible to know any bus in advance
Some random diversions on the 16 today due to an accident near Lidl in Amblecote. Some are going via Moor Street and Brierley Hill Road to access Brettle Lane, some following the 226 route round Swan Lane, some going into Brockmoor and one even tracking as going as far as a low bridge!
I caught 6772 on the 529 this morning and ive noticed it's got no Front destination display but the side and rear work.
Whats happened to 4934 haven't seen it out on 15 or 16 for a few weeks
Quote from: BH2004 on January 19, 2021, 12:56:59 PM
Whats happened to 4934 haven't seen it out on 15 or 16 for a few weeks
Could be on other WN routes?? 15/16 has been getting a mix bag of platinums, tridents, E400/Hs, 4935 is in paint.
One of the 15As surprised the residents of wombourne and himley today
I have a random question when Cleveland rd was operational in the late 80s etc was Park Lane in existence as they are/ were both pretty big depots?..
Quote from: monkeyjoe on February 08, 2021, 07:29:16 PM
I have a random question when Cleveland rd was operational in the late 80s etc was Park Lane in existence as they are/ were both pretty big depots?..
Pretty sure that it was like this:
Park Lane originally shut totally in 1986 and only CR was in operation. PL then reopened as an Engineering base in 1991 but CR was still used as the actual garage.
In 1993 CR closed and PL became the operating garage for Wolverhampton.
Quote from: D10 on February 08, 2021, 08:49:52 PM
Pretty sure that it was like this:
Park Lane originally shut totally in 1986 and only CR was in operation. PL then reopened as an Engineering base in 1991 but CR was still used as the actual garage.
In 1993 CR closed and PL became the operating garage for Wolverhampton.
Ok thank you, so has Park Lane been around for quite a long time then? When did it originally open?
Wasn't park lane also used a a storage for withdrawn buses as well
Quote from: monkeyjoe on February 09, 2021, 06:37:55 AM
... so has Park Lane been around for quite a long time then? When did it originally open?
Park Lane first opened in 1938. Cleveland Road had first opened in 1902.
Quote from: Justin Tyme on February 09, 2021, 11:33:42 AM
Park Lane first opened in 1938. Cleveland Road had first opened in 1902.
When WMPTE formed in Oct 1969 Wolverhampton corporation had four active depots, two on adjacent sites.
Cleveland Road - opened for trams 15th Jul 1902, buses 1st Sep 1905 and trolleybuses 29th Oct 1923; closed for trams 26th Aug 1928 and trolley buses 5th Mar 1967
Bilston St - opened for buses 13th May 1931
- Between March 1975 and the official opening on 18th Jan 1978 as Cleveland Road, these two depots were rebuilt as one modern depot with a ramp leading from the higher Cleveland Road side and the lower Bilston St side. This depot was closed by WM Travel on 31st Oct 1993.
Park Lane - opened for trolleybuses 25th Jun 1938 and buses on 30th Apr 1939; closed for trolleybuses on 27th Jan 1964. This depot was closed by WMPTE on 25th Oct 1986 and reopened by WM Travel on 1st Nov 1993.
Bilston, Mount Pleasant - acquired from Wolverhampton & District Electric Tramways on 1st Sep 1928; opened for trams 15th Jul 1902 and buses 26th Oct 1904; closed for trams 27th Oct 1928, opened for trolleybuses 27th Oct 1930 and closed 26th Oct 1964 and by WMPTE for buses on 12th November 1971.
Quote from: busfan2847 on February 09, 2021, 07:42:49 PM
When WMPTE formed in Oct 1969 Wolverhampton corporation had four active depots, two on adjacent sites.
Cleveland Road - opened for trams 15th Jul 1902, buses 1st Sep 1905 and trolleybuses 29th Oct 1923; closed for trams 26th Aug 1928 and trolley buses 5th Mar 1967
Bilston St - opened for buses 13th May 1931
- Between March 1975 and the official opening on 18th Jan 1978 as Cleveland Road, these two depots were rebuilt as one modern depot with a ramp leading from the higher Cleveland Road side and the lower Bilston St side. This depot was closed by WM Travel on 31st Oct 1993.
Park Lane - opened for trolleybuses 25th Jun 1938 and buses on 30th Apr 1939; closed for trolleybuses on 27th Jan 1964. This depot was closed by WMPTE on 25th Oct 1986 and reopened by WM Travel on 1st Nov 1993.
Bilston, Mount Pleasant - acquired from Wolverhampton & District Electric Tramways on 1st Sep 1928; opened for trams 15th Jul 1902 and buses 26th Oct 1904; closed for trams 27th Oct 1928, opened for trolleybuses 27th Oct 1930 and closed 26th Oct 1964 and by WMPTE for buses on 12th November 1971.
Right thank you, didn't realise
Has 5409 ventured out into service?
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on February 09, 2021, 09:02:11 PM
Has 5409 ventured out into service?
No, at Graysons for working out how to Euro 6 it. Because of the bigger engine than the other hybrids, less room for the new exhaust system
Quote from: Tony on February 09, 2021, 09:04:10 PM
No, at Graysons for working out how to Euro 6 it. Because of the bigger engine than the other hybrids, less room for the new exhaust system
What is the difference with the engine? I'm guessing the hybrids had a 4cyl engine with the hybrid system, and 5409 had that replaced with a 6cyl?
Can we please have a moment of appreciation for the driver of 6765 on the 529 this afternoon?
How he continued driving while a group of 'school kids' ,for want of a better word, decided to hold an impromptu 'disco' on the upper deck, beats me.
Personally I wouldn't blamed him, if he wanted to 'test his brakes' for an emergency stop!
The racket of the little sods!
Quote from: Westy on February 23, 2021, 04:46:29 PM
Can we please have a moment of appreciation for the driver of 6765 on the 529 this afternoon?
How he continued driving while a group of 'school kids' ,for want of a better word, decided to hold an impromptu 'disco' on the upper deck, beats me.
Personally I wouldn't blamed him, if he wanted to 'test his brakes' for an emergency stop!
The racket of the little sods!
as a guess just ignored them & drove instead of the kids giving the driver grief about why you stopped but it will all be on film to show the school if they was at school
Quote from: Solo1 on February 23, 2021, 08:53:35 PM
as a guess just ignored them & drove instead of the kids giving the driver grief about why you stopped but it will all be on film to show the school if they was at school
Of course, they wasn't / wouldn't have been at school anyway (AFAIK, unless they were children of key workers)!
Talking of 'film', looking at the screen downstairs, that cycled through the various cameras, there was a lovely close up of the one little darling, so if there was damage on the vehicle, there's a start for Tony & his mates!
Don't know if this has happened during the lockdown, but pre-lockdown I'm sure WB operated an AM board on the X8, which went onto the 74, and PN on the 16 (Think it did Kingswinford - Stourbridge). Do they still run these boards or have they stopped all together?
Quote from: Bus_user_jay on March 04, 2021, 05:34:36 PM
Do they still run these boards or have they stopped all together?
Don't think they do
Quote from: BH2004 on March 04, 2021, 05:40:52 PM
Don't think they do
the pn 16 does wolves to stour but not running at the moment
4933's rear ad for Available Car is starting it peal by the upper deck window
6772 ( 529 branded has broken down at merry hill was there at 11 when I got to asda and was still there 20 mins ago when I was leaving )was either on 15 or 8
Quote from: Jack6101 on March 13, 2021, 12:18:22 PM
6772 ( 529 branded has broken down at merry hill was there at 11 when I got to asda and was still there 20 mins ago when I was leaving )was either on 15 or 8
It was on the 8 only platinum on the 15 is 6775
Quote from: BH2004 on March 13, 2021, 12:39:17 PM
It was on the 8 only platinum on the 15 is 6775
Cheers for the information
Quote from: Bus_user_jay on March 04, 2021, 05:34:36 PM
Don't know if this has happened during the lockdown, but pre-lockdown I'm sure WB operated an AM board on the X8, which went onto the 74, and PN on the 16 (Think it did Kingswinford - Stourbridge). Do they still run these boards or have they stopped all together?
The WB peak morning board has run for many years starting with 140 / 241 journeys then running dead back to depot from Dudley. The board has gradually changed as the routes have changed latterly operating X8 Bearwood - Wolverhampton, Wolverhampton - Birmingham before going onto the 74E. The consistency has been the same WB driver operating that board, not sure what has happened in COVID, extra bus mainly needed due to peak time running times.
Looks like according to Twitter, Wolves has a 'celebrity' guest bus driver at the moment!
Quote from: Westy on March 24, 2021, 07:23:45 AM
Looks like according to Twitter, Wolves has a 'celebrity' guest bus driver at the moment!
Who's the celebrity? 🤔
Quote from: mesub on March 24, 2021, 06:28:25 PM
Who's the celebrity? 🤔
Radio presenter Dickie Dodd
Quote from: Tony on March 24, 2021, 06:35:15 PM
Radio presenter Dickie Dodd
Wasn't sure if I could mention his name or not?
Quote from: Westy on March 24, 2021, 06:49:42 PM
Wasn't sure if I could mention his name or not?
He's certainly not hiding the fact. See attached photo
Quote from: Westy on March 24, 2021, 07:23:45 AM
Looks like according to Twitter, Wolves has a 'celebrity' guest bus driver at the moment!
https://twitter.com/DickyDodd/status/1374091502733959168
Quote from: Westy on March 24, 2021, 06:49:42 PM
Wasn't sure if I could mention his name or not?
Anything that is in the public domain anyway, and not offensive is fine.
Well, at least he's doing well after GHR made him redundant
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 24, 2021, 09:26:16 PM
Well, at least he's doing well after GHR made him redundant
Thought he'd got a job with the 101.8 fm lot?
Quote from: Westy on March 25, 2021, 07:15:05 AM
Thought he'd got a job with the 101.8 fm lot?
He still does a radio show in the morning, and drives part time in the afternoons.
4935 seems to have done a long journey to just off the M1 services, wonder where it is going
Quote from: Pat on March 25, 2021, 08:02:48 AM
He still does a radio show in the morning, and drives part time in the afternoons.
Might see him on a 529 then.
(Sister might see him on a 60. Wobtide him if he's her late running vehicle! LOL)
Quote from: Westy on March 25, 2021, 10:41:54 AM
Might see him on a 529 then.
(Sister might see him on a 60. Wobtide him if he's her late running vehicle! LOL)
From his Twitter feed, it seems as if he's doing a variety of routes.
Interesting.
I thought nxwm only offered full time as well
Quote from: mesub on March 25, 2021, 04:00:29 PM
Interesting.
I thought nxwm only offered full time as well
NXWM have hundreds of part time drivers
Any reason why there doesn't seem to be a substitute stop or something not made clear at the Willenhall Dale stop towards Wolverhampton?
Monday morning, the 529 I was on stopped by Poundland opposite the 25 / 57 / 326 stop & this morning it sailed past & dropped at the next stop, The Lock Museum instead.
Quote from: Westy on March 30, 2021, 07:41:12 PM
Any reason why there doesn't seem to be a substitute stop or something not made clear at the Willenhall Dale stop towards Wolverhampton?
Monday morning, the 529 I was on stopped by Poundland opposite the 25 / 57 / 326 stop & this morning it sailed past & dropped at the next stop, The Lock Museum instead.
Sometimes stops are taken out of use by people carrying out roadworks and you have to board/alight at the next stop, if I've understood this correctly.
They took 2 of the 11A stops on Bromford Lane out of use a few weeks back while there were roadworks (St Margarets Rd & Bromford Bridge/Drews Lane). So people had to use alternative stops.
Quote from: 2206 on March 30, 2021, 08:01:55 PM
Sometimes stops are taken out of use by people carrying out roadworks and you have to board/alight at the next stop, if I've understood this correctly.
They took 2 of the 11A stops on Bromford Lane out of use a few weeks back while there were roadworks (St Margarets Rd & Bromford Bridge/Drews Lane). So people had to use alternative stops.
Yes, but it didn't appear to be made clear at the stop itself, as people were waiting, & the bus sailed past!
Quote from: Westy on March 30, 2021, 10:16:20 PM
Yes, but it didn't appear to be made clear at the stop itself, as people were waiting, & the bus sailed past!
Presumably the roadworks were barriered off stopping the bus getting to the stop
Quote from: Tony on March 30, 2021, 10:23:57 PM
Presumably the roadworks were barriered off stopping the bus getting to the stop
They were, but either there was no notice saying what to do, or people were not reading notices, if there were any in the first place.
It seems strange for a timing point on the timetable, that there wasn't a substitute bus stop, outside Poundland & the next bus stop was a fair walk practically?
I could walk obviously, and it stopping outside The Lock Museum wasn't a problem, as I use the Walsall direction stop sometimes, instead of the Dale, depending on how quick I can cross the road.
What about the people like the Oaps though?
By the way, it wasn't mentioned on West Midlands Network site though.
Quote from: Westy on March 30, 2021, 10:53:47 PM
They were, but either there was no notice saying what to do, or people were not reading notices, if there were any in the first place.
It seems strange for a timing point on the timetable, that there wasn't a substitute bus stop, outside Poundland & the next bus stop was a fair walk practically?
I could walk obviously, and it stopping outside The Lock Museum wasn't a problem, as I use the Walsall direction stop sometimes, instead of the Dale, depending on how quick I can cross the road.
What about the people like the Oaps though?
By the way, it wasn't mentioned on West Midlands Network site though.
Then if its closed off, its plain obvious that the bus isn't going to stop there.
West Midland Network site does not mention individual stop closures, only diversions.
The bus would wait time at the next stop where its safe to I would expect,.
Which is of hardly any use to persons of reduced mobility
Quote from: Solo1 on March 31, 2021, 06:44:18 AM
if they need to do road works whete the stop is when should they do the work early morning /evening its safer to shut stop do the work & then reopen stop i know its a pain when they do this
They wont do that as any people that live local would be kept awake, it's only one bus stop taken out of use, it's no hardship
Quote from: Solo1 on March 31, 2021, 06:44:18 AM
if they need to do road works whete the stop is when should they do the work early morning /evening its safer to shut stop do the work & then reopen stop i know its a pain when they do this
Replace a whole water main in a couple of hours?
How inconsiderate of the workmen doing there job
Still it gives Westy something to moan about
Quote from: karl724223 on March 31, 2021, 05:56:56 PM
How inconsiderate of the workmen doing there job
Still it gives Westy something to moan about
Who said I was moaning?
I was making an observation!
By the way, I had a look at the notice on the bus stop on the way home, & it does say goto the next stop, but some drivers seem to be being helpful & dropping off outside Poundland.
A 3/4 branded bus has had a new name on the near side and the offside and had its name takne off the front and back, which one is it and whats its new name
Quote from: SN65 OMC on April 01, 2021, 08:57:12 PM
A 3/4 branded bus has had a new name on the near side and the offside and had its name takne off the front and back, which one is it and whats its new name
2023
Quote from: Westy on March 31, 2021, 06:15:59 PM
Who said I was moaning?
I was making an observation!
By the way, I had a look at the notice on the bus stop on the way home, & it does say goto the next stop, but some drivers seem to be being helpful & dropping off outside Poundland.
Update: There is now a 'Temporary Stop' sign on a lamp post!
Travelled on 431 earlier on the 11. For a Streetlite, I must say that I was pleasantly surprised. The gearbox was smooth, and the suspension wasn't too bad.
5409 is back out on the 11s today!
Any idea which 54xx went to Walsall earlier today, as I spotted it at Bloxwich Church traffic lights around 10am?
2957 was sat in Wolverhampton Bus Station this afternoon. Was quite a nice surprise!!! Any idea why??
would of said crew bus so can distance rather than i the canteen at the bus station
I saw lots of B7RLES on the 15 yesterday up merry hill. When did they change to become single deck operated? Judging by loadings on them it seems deckers are definitely necessary for a SAFE journey
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 17, 2021, 07:26:58 AM
I saw lots of B7RLES on the 15 yesterday up merry hill. When did they change to become single deck operated? Judging by loadings on them it seems deckers are definitely necessary for a SAFE journey
The 15 is double decker operated but had 3 b7rles on yesterday, more than likely because some E400s were either in repair, being painted or something else 4932, 4934, 4935 that weren't out yesterday
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 17, 2021, 07:26:58 AM
I saw lots of B7RLES on the 15 yesterday up merry hill. When did they change to become single deck operated? Judging by loadings on them it seems deckers are definitely necessary for a SAFE journey
It's never been changed. You'll often see B7s on there. Would you rather have a smaller bus turn up, or no bus at all?
Bus allocations might change from 18/4/21 so might go back to full decker service
Quote from: Pat on April 17, 2021, 10:08:22 AM
It's never been changed. You'll often see B7s on there. Would you rather have a smaller bus turn up, or no bus at all?
I'd rather have no bus at all. When it comes to single deckers being used instead of double deckers on busy routes then social distancing becomes impossible. Thankfully NX has mainly bought double-deckers in recent years which has reduced single deckers in the fleet.
I only hope that NX don't buy anymore single deckers for a while yet.
Quote from: Steve3229vp on April 17, 2021, 11:25:05 AM
I'd rather have no bus at all. When it comes to single deckers being used instead of double deckers on busy routes then social distancing becomes impossible. Thankfully NX has mainly bought double-deckers in recent years which has reduced single deckers in the fleet.
I only hope that NX don't buy anymore single deckers for a while yet.
Social distancing is impossible in supermarkets, and people don't complain then. From what i've seen, there's been no social distancing at all on some buses.
Quote from: Pat on April 17, 2021, 12:02:11 PM
Social distancing is impossible in supermarkets, and people don't complain then. From what i've seen, there's been no social distancing at all on some buses.
Supermarkets are completely different. The virus spreads easily if your next to the same person for more than 15 minutes, so there's more chance on that on a bus than a supermarket.
Quote from: Steve3229vp on April 17, 2021, 11:25:05 AM
Thankfully NX has mainly bought double-deckers in recent years which has reduced single deckers in the fleet.
I only hope that NX don't buy anymore single deckers for a while yet.
I agree. And even before social distancing and COVID, double deckers would have allowed for a more comfortable journey than loads of passengers squashed into a single decker bus full and standing. So more double deckers in the fleet and the fact that the BC fleet is now fully double deck is a good thing I think.
The only problem with them used to be, that they seemed to in the past attract idiots who would smoke on the top deck etc. But I don't see that as much anymore these days.
Quote from: SN65 OMC on April 17, 2021, 10:01:02 AM
The 15 is double decker operated but had 3 b7rles on yesterday, more than likely because some E400s were either in repair, being painted or something else 4932, 4934, 4935 that weren't out yesterday
4932 mot
4934 waiting for parts
4935 repaint, now back but inspection required.
Plus 4927 got swapped as the driver decided to go 4x4 ing in it.
Quote from: BN on April 17, 2021, 12:54:34 PM
Plus 4927 got swapped as the driver decided to go 4x4 ing in it.
W-what?
Quote from: mesub on April 17, 2021, 05:33:46 PM
W-what?
Probably means the bus was very muddy like it had gone off road like a 4x4!
Quote from: j789 on April 17, 2021, 08:15:59 PM
Probably means the bus was very muddy like it had gone off road like a 4x4!
No, it grounded out near Wombourne.
Quote from: Pat on April 17, 2021, 08:17:54 PM
No, it grounded out near Wombourne.
Is that the picture on Facebook, is that driver going to keep his job ?
Quote from: monkeyjoe on April 18, 2021, 08:43:33 PM
Is that the picture on Facebook, is that driver going to keep his job ?
is there a link for this picture
It's on the Wombourne Online Facebook page.
https://www.facebook.com/wombourne/photos/a.10152200569531562/10161039223066562/ is the link to the picture and posts.
Are the 54xx buses now classed as Platinum 'spares', as 5420 now has Platinum announcements & screens?
Quote from: ellspurs on April 19, 2021, 02:47:56 PM
https://www.facebook.com/wombourne/photos/a.10152200569531562/10161039223066562/ is the link to the picture and posts.
At least it wasn't Dicky Dodd driving, as it was confirmed in the comments!
Quote from: monkeyjoe on April 18, 2021, 08:43:33 PM
Is that the picture on Facebook, is that driver going to keep his job ?
Why does that matter to you?
Quote from: Dom on April 19, 2021, 05:35:40 PM
Why does that matter to you?
Makes no difference to me, i was just curious after reading some of the fb posts. Hope someone wouldnt get sacked for an error.
Quote from: Westy on April 23, 2021, 04:47:52 PM
431 on X529.
We have a winner! This deserves some kind of award surely? ;D
Quote from: Stu on April 23, 2021, 05:48:20 PM
We have a winner! This deserves some kind of award surely? ;D
The noteworthy working of the year.
You watch, one will fall onto a peak X8 out of city next
Anyone know if 5424 is out of service/ repairs? thanks
And Do the 2 'Gaj' Buses (729/30) run at weekends ?
Quote from: windy miller on April 24, 2021, 01:01:49 AM
Anyone know if 5424 is out of service/ repairs? thanks
And Do the 2 'Gaj' Buses (729/30) run at weekends ?
5424 will be out Monday. 729/730 are used Saturdays.
Quote from: windy miller on April 24, 2021, 01:01:49 AM
Anyone know if 5424 is out of service/ repairs? thanks
And Do the 2 'Gaj' Buses (729/30) run at weekends ?
730 on 28 today
4935 back in service on the 15 after repaint.
Quote from: Roy on April 24, 2021, 11:31:00 AM
4935 back in service on the 15 after repaint.
Its first day out was Monday it was on 714 then 69
Quote from: monkeyjoe on April 19, 2021, 07:14:01 PM
Makes no difference to me, i was just curious after reading some of the fb posts. Hope someone wouldnt get sacked for an error.
Slightly connected, but this morning, coming into work on the industrial estate in Willenhall, that has The Range on, a foreign lorry driver had done a similar thing.
(Picture on Walsall Chit Chat & Natter Facebook page if you're remotely interested!)
I saw 4934 today and saw that the availablecar rear advert is coming off and as it was driving away it was flapping on and off by the rear lower window
Curious about 5409 - which now seems to be in regular use - any thoughts on whether the next 54xx conversion might be 4 cyl or 6 cyl diesel - OR something different such as electric? Interesting to see whether 5409 remains a one off!
As well as the 1, 54xx seem to have been regular performers on other routes such as 11, 15 and 16 (in fact almost 100% contingent on 15, 16 on at least one occasion) - presumably the length of 15 and 16 gives good opportunity to use the fuel consumption saving when running electric in the built up areas.
not seen 5409 much, first few days it was on wn's 11 service. 5402/12 seem to stay local as they have appeared on the 11 more than any route lately, although i saw a post on fb with 5402 on the x8 other day.
5409 was on the 1 earlier. There are a couple which haven't tracked for ages, presumably off the road.
Quote from: don on May 15, 2021, 06:46:12 PM
5409 was on the 1 earlier. There are a couple which haven't tracked for ages, presumably off the road.
5403 & 5405 are the only dead pair.
5416 has been dead but currently has a faulty tracker
Thanks, Tony.
Is it quite a big resource to double the 79 for a short period ??? Just curious really
Quote from: monkeyjoe on May 17, 2021, 06:56:00 PM
Is it quite a big resource to double the 79 for a short period ??? Just curious really
It's to replace the metro for a week
Quote from: monkeyjoe on May 17, 2021, 06:56:00 PM
Is it quite a big resource to double the 79 for a short period ??? Just curious really
It's half term too so less buses do school runs
6788 displayed 15A while on 15 today it just went past me
The 15 hasn't operated any evening journeys tonight, does anyone know why?
Are Platties overheating?
Had to transfer from 6795 to 6765 at Shepwell Green.
Quote from: Westy on June 15, 2021, 04:29:08 PM
Are Platties overheating?
Had to transfer from 6795 to 6765 at Shepwell Green.
I saw one on the X12 at about 23:00 Saturday night which had the fan going so loud that the driver got out to have a look before carrying on - the fan was so loud it was covering up the music playing through my headphones when I was about 50 metres away from it.
A number of AG E400MMC (both variants) are roaring. They were roaring last summer too. Reminiscent of the classic B7TL roars you'd hear around in Acocks Green & Solihull.
Quote from: MW on June 15, 2021, 06:50:08 PM
A number of AG E400MMC (both variants) are roaring. They were roaring last summer too. Reminiscent of the classic B7TL roars you'd hear around in Acocks Green & Solihull.
The red & white 45**s I've driven past have been surprisingly quiet so far, with the exception of 4522
Quote from: Sh4318 on June 15, 2021, 11:19:23 PM
The red & white 45**s I've driven past have been surprisingly quiet so far, with the exception of 4522
4508 is one thats blaring its fans about.
Were they not all fitted with e-Fans (despite the WB ones not being Euro 6)?
4508 was a very nice drive (6 years ago) and it would respond with the fans roaring load when being thrashed on the Outer Circle. That one was one of my favourite 45xx, probably the most favourite now I come to think about it. 4515/16/17/18 were also good ones.
4637/38/49/63/65 were the best 46xx's
A rather rare old visitor back on site here. 4041 apparently new to Wolverhampton?
Quote from: BN on June 17, 2021, 05:18:24 PM
A rather rare old visitor back on site here. 4041 apparently new to Wolverhampton?
I think it was new to WB but came to PL later in life.
Quote from: BN on June 17, 2021, 05:18:24 PM
A rather rare old visitor back on site here. 4041 apparently new to Wolverhampton?
I've just checked and yes, it was new to Wolverhampton. The first 15 WMPTE "standard" Fleetlines (4041 was numerically the sixth) went to Wolves primarily to help convert the 79 to one person operation.
They looked really modern when new, and I can't believe 4041 is coming up to 50 years old!
Quote from: Justin Tyme on June 17, 2021, 05:56:57 PM
I've just checked and yes, it was new to Wolverhampton. The first 15 WMPTE "standard" Fleetlines (4041 was numerically the sixth) went to Wolves primarily to help convert the 79 to one person operation.
They looked really modern when new, and I can't believe 4041 is coming up to 50 years old!
It was allocated to Bilston St when put on the 79 - not sure whether that was its initial allocation or used elsewhere in WN initially - however it was some time before the whole batch of vehicles required to convert the 70 group of routes (Soho Road corridor) was available - 4036-50 (Bilston St); 4082
-98 (Hockley); 4099-108 and 4136-57 (West Bromwich) - the first Wolverhampton one I saw was 4049 on Soho Road but I think on route learning or some other training mission - 4051-81 (Harborne) appeared in the meantime and used on the Selly Oak/Weoley Castle 21/22 - this rather startled school boy witnessed a brand new 4052 on the Outer Circle as the first WMPTE standard seen (summer 71)! Imagine the shock - short single doored version of a 39xx, with a huge destination panel!! Nearly as shocking as boarding a brand new 4244 in Jan 73 on the 118 in Walsall (WL allocated until VRs (eventually) turned up after which it went to its rightful ex BCT garage) - with redesigned interior colourings (de BCTd) - white ceilings, all red seats, darker warerite panels, non slip, brown floor lino with no aluminium foot strips in front of the seats, and rear route numbers/relocated rear number plate!!
Back in 1971 I was waiting eagerly for the Metro Cammell Fleetlines, as until then the last double decks Metro Cammell has built were to the old 1960s style, like the KOX-F batch. I was very surprised and slightly disappointed that 4136 on looked exactly the same as the Park Royals! Soon I noticed a number of differences, but MCW must have done a straight copy of the Park Royal design. Surprised they didn't sue!
Quote from: Stevo on June 18, 2021, 07:57:43 PM
Back in 1971 I was waiting eagerly for the Metro Cammell Fleetlines, as until then the last double decks Metro Cammell has built were to the old 1960s style, like the KOX-F batch. I was very surprised and slightly disappointed that 4136 on looked exactly the same as the Park Royals! Soon I noticed a number of differences, but MCW must have done a straight copy of the Park Royal design. Surprised they didn't sue!
The design was a PTE one, not a Park Royal one.
Any idea on whats happening to 6766? Is it to be fixed or not?
Quote from: Jack on June 19, 2021, 05:48:39 PM
Any idea on whats happening to 6766? Is it to be fixed or not?
someone said she got scrapped
Quote from: Tony on June 18, 2021, 08:00:43 PM
The design was a PTE one, not a Park Royal one.
The Parl Royal design first appeared in 1968 and was adapted to BCT requirements for the Jumbos. Doubtless MCW produced their copy at the demand of Wumpty but it was still a copy.
Quote from: bbs on June 19, 2021, 11:37:59 PM
someone said she got scrapped
Presumably from another one of your 'unreliable' sources off Instagram...
WN 6787 was just seen in lye so gone on the map see what it's doing and it seems to be following the PN 7 route Dudley to Wollaston and now going back towards Dudley NIS that was ( 7 route )
Any ideas why thank you in advance
Quote from: Jack6101 on August 08, 2021, 09:24:20 AM
WN 6787 was just seen in lye so gone on the map see what it's doing and it seems to be following the PN 7 route Dudley to Wollaston and now going back towards Dudley NIS that was ( 7 route )
Any ideas why thank you in advance
Rumour has it the 7 is moving to Wolves
Quote from: Dom on August 08, 2021, 11:40:29 AM
Rumour has it the 7 is moving to Wolves
I think they were route learning as I saw 6787 in Kingswinford with loads of drivers on
Quote from: BNH2004 on August 08, 2021, 12:48:02 PM
I think they were route learning as I saw 6787 in Kingswinford with loads of drivers on
Interworking with maybe the 27?
How come 3/4 Branded buses are being debranded seen 2014 and it had lost its 3/4 branding
Which ones will be debranded
Quote from: BNH2004 on August 19, 2021, 05:02:28 PM
How come 3/4 Branded buses are being debranded seen 2014 and it had lost its 3/4 branding
Which ones will be debranded
2013-16
2010-11
2029
2062
Quote from: BNH2004 on August 08, 2021, 12:48:02 PM
I think they were route learning as I saw 6787 in Kingswinford with loads of drivers on
Does it still have its Maxwells gearbox? 🤣
Wolverhampton operate 807/808/809 circular routes to Park Lane. Are these staff bus routes that are available to the general public and are they unique being in-service?
Quote from: Wumpty on September 20, 2021, 10:02:26 AM
Wolverhampton operate 807/808/809 circular routes to Park Lane. Are these staff bus routes that are available to the general public and are they unique being in-service?
Judging by the time of day they run - two journeys early AM - I would guess they are staff services.
Also as there are timetables listed online, I would guess they would be available to the general public too - may as well pick up some paying passengers on the way!
I don't know what you mean by "unique being in service", other garages have or used to run such staff buses publicly, for example Yardley Wood used to run their own 801/802 circulars early mornings between YW and AG depots.
Quote from: Stu on September 20, 2021, 06:20:00 PM
Judging by the time of day they run - two journeys early AM - I would guess they are staff services.
Also as there are timetables listed online, I would guess they would be available to the general public too - may as well pick up some paying passengers on the way!
I don't know what you mean by "unique being in service", other garages have or used to run such staff buses publicly, for example Yardley Wood used to run their own 801/802 circulars early mornings between YW and AG depots.
ticket machines not live for staff bus journeys so no not for paying public and I don't think drivers would want the public on the bus with them going to work
Quote from: karl724223 on September 20, 2021, 07:41:32 PM
ticket machines not live for staff bus journeys so no not for paying public and I don't think drivers would want the public on the bus with them going to work
OK, fair enough explanation, but why register them as public bus services then?
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/533740/
I have seen buses operating staff shuttles before, but they clearly showed 'Staff Bus' on the display without any route number.
Quote from: Stu on September 20, 2021, 07:49:43 PM
OK, fair enough explanation, but why register them as public bus services then?
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/533740/
I have seen buses operating staff shuttles before, but they clearly showed 'Staff Bus' on the display without any route number.
The Wolverhampton one is a registered service, and is available to the public officially. The other garage ones don't have a fixed route.
Quote from: Stu on September 20, 2021, 06:20:00 PM
I don't know what you mean by "unique being in service", other garages have or used to run such staff buses publicly, for example Yardley Wood used to run their own 801/802 circulars early mornings between YW and AG depots.
Apologies Stu, I meant as in a registered service available to the general public. I don't know of any other garages that run a staff bus and pick up public on a set route.
Quote from: karl724223 on September 20, 2021, 07:41:32 PM
ticket machines not live for staff bus journeys so no not for paying public and I don't think drivers would want the public on the bus with them going to work
Good job fare paying passengers don't mind drivers being on their buses otherwise the bus wouldn't get very far ;)
Quote from: Tony on September 20, 2021, 07:52:31 PM
The Wolverhampton one is a registered service, and is available to the public officially. The other garage ones don't have a fixed route.
That's what I was trying to say in a cack-handed way - thanks Tony!
4431 on the 7 with no working destination display!
2 seems to be operated by double deckers today and the 15 and 16 have 5 eclipses on
Quote from: BNH2004 on October 04, 2021, 08:42:37 AM
2 seems to be operated by double deckers today and the 15 and 16 have 5 eclipses on
Wonder if there are tree problems around wombourn area ?
Quote from: Jack6101 on October 04, 2021, 09:16:07 AM
Wonder if there are tree problems around wombourn area ?
Also worth noting that the 2 is now every 12 minutes off peak - could be a contributing factor
Don't know if the previous journey didn't appear or not, but the 657am 529 from Walsall is more heavy than normal!
Quote from: Westy on October 12, 2021, 07:02:09 AM
Don't know if the previous journey didn't appear or not, but the 657am 529 from Walsall is more heavy than normal!
Funnily enough, saw a 529 leaving Wolves at Bilston Street Island at around 06.05 today with a standing load.
The following 57 NX buses have been in use on one of the 31 NXWM routes serving Wolverhampton City Centre in the past 10 days.
1767,4310-2,4314,4322,4327,4331,4426-36,4438-46,4448,4455-9,4461,4536-42,4553,4555/6,4558-64,4566,4570,5402,5409,5412
Are all 57 buses not compliant to Euro 6 standards?
Quote from: wulfrun on October 13, 2021, 01:08:13 PM
The following 57 NX buses have been in use on one of the 31 NXWM routes serving Wolverhampton City Centre in the past 10 days.
1767,4310-2,4314,4322,4327,4331,4426-36,4438-46,4448,4455-9,4461,4536-42,4553,4555/6,4558-64,4566,4570,5402,5409,5412
Are all 57 buses not compliant to Euro 6 standards?
They are all Euro 3-5, but only 75% of journeys (not vehicles) need to be euro 6 in Wolverhampton
Quote from: Tony on October 13, 2021, 01:26:46 PM
They are all Euro 3-5, but only 75% of journeys (not vehicles) need to be euro 6 in Wolverhampton
Thanks Tony.
I was aware of the regulation, but in order to count journeys you need to be sure which buses are non-compliant. :)
6791, 6794, 6945, 6950 All seen this evening at Dunstall Race Course
Quote from: BNH2004 on October 16, 2021, 09:18:15 PM
6791, 6794, 6945, 6950 All seen this evening at Dunstall Race Course
Which of them won? ;)
Don't know if there's a network wide problem, but 6759 unable to accept smartcards currently!
Any idea what's happened to 2059? According to Bustimes it hasn't left the depot in about a month and a half... and it's the last one I need to clear the depot
Quote from: Raedwald on November 05, 2021, 11:41:38 AM
Any idea what's happened to 2059? According to Bustimes it hasn't left the depot in about a month and a half... and it's the last one I need to clear the depot
It had an RTC, wouldn't normally take this long to repair but like a lot of other things at the moment the body parts are in short supply for these, same reason 2121 and 2146 are taking so long
WN2021 (3/4 branded) sat in PN.
Anyone know why there were 3/4 Johnson's coaches parked up at WN very early Saturday? It's certainly put the Park Lane rumour mill into overdrive!
Quote from: Wumpty on November 15, 2021, 06:56:39 AM
Anyone know why there were 3/4 Johnson's coaches parked up at WN very early Saturday? It's certainly put the Park Lane rumour mill into overdrive!
Hired in to cover a contract for a darts competition
Gotcha -I forgot the darts were on!
Don't you mean Enviro 200s? ;)
Quote from: Stevo on November 16, 2021, 09:24:33 AM
Don't you mean Enviro 200s? ;)
Baddum-tssss!
10 years ago, the shuttles would've been run by Flights!!!!! I'll get me coat!
Quote from: Raedwald on November 22, 2021, 02:30:41 PM
2014 and 209x - WV15
(they're starting to get pretty common on these routes now)
This is due to 2 getting some double deckers because of the frequency went from every 9 mins to every 12 mins
Today on the 15 there is
2002
2009
2010
2014
2029
2062
2090
And 2086 if it stops out when it goes on the 15 tonight
5403 currently in Wolverhampton Bus Station now converted to straight diesel. First time out for 9 months
Quote from: Tony on November 26, 2021, 04:26:39 PM
5403 currently in Wolverhampton Bus Station now converted to straight diesel. First time out for 9 months
Is it as extensive as 5409s rebuild or like 5402/12?
Apart from 5405 is any more 54** being converted or are they going if required?
The perils of not being fully awake on a bus!
Just on 6772, & someone had fallen asleep on the upstairs back seat (I was downstairs!), with his bag on the floor.
He woke up at Shepwell Green, to discover said bag had gone, so he came down to speak to the driver, presumably to look at the cctv.
I guess Nx would be able to arrange a private screening for him!
Quote from: BK63 YWP on November 26, 2021, 04:53:29 PM
Is it as extensive as 5409s rebuild or like 5402/12?
Apart from 5405 is any more 54** being converted or are they going if required?
5401 is being done now
Looks like 81s Monday- Saturday daytime journeys are being withdrawn from the 30th January
Quote from: BNH2004 on January 12, 2022, 02:31:29 PM
Looks like 81s Monday- Saturday daytime journeys are being withdrawn from the 30th January
If you are going off bustimes it states end of commercial journeys Mon to Sat, so it will be retendered out by TfWM, may have a frequency change, NX may retain it running under tender, Diamond or another operator (maybe Banga?) May take it over like what happened to the 96
Quote from: BK63 YWP on January 12, 2022, 02:41:16 PM
If you are going off bustimes it states end of commercial journeys Mon to Sat
New timetable is on nxbus website.
Quote from: 2206 on January 12, 2022, 02:42:33 PM
New timetable is on nxbus website.
Evening and Sunday journeys only then. It was mentioned on another thread that Banga would be taking on a tendered service, maybe this is it?
5401 fresh back from conversion is on the 6 now, (did a 1 this morning for it's first job)
Quote from: Tony on January 20, 2022, 04:34:02 PM
5401 fresh back from conversion is on the 6 now, (did a 1 this morning for it's first job)
Really enjoy reading your posts on the various groups regarding these 54xx E400H's being repowered
@Tony at EYMS , but for the more technical minded people like myself, is anyone able to provide a complete list of what's been done so far?
I know 5409 has the standard Enviro 6cyl engine in her, but I believe 5401, 02, 03, 05 and 12 have retained the original 4cyl engine, is this correct?
Quote from: twb1979 on January 23, 2022, 08:41:03 AM
Really enjoy reading your posts on the various groups regarding these 54xx E400H's being repowered @Tony at EYMS , but for the more technical minded people like myself, is anyone able to provide a complete list of what's been done so far?
I know 5409 has the standard Enviro 6cyl engine in her, but I believe 5401, 02, 03, 05 and 12 have retained the original 4cyl engine, is this correct?
Yes, that's correct
As posted in Bus Accidents/Incidents thread, 2019 involved in collision with dog on A449 Stafford Road outside Goodyear Pavillion (I stopped to check he was OK). Minor damage to NSF bottom corner and front tow flap. Believe driver ran DEAD back to garage.
Hasn't 4535 been spotted on the X8 in the past?
Sure our 'friend from Blackheath ' mentioned it at one point?
Why did the driver of the 21:35 N15 service from Wolverhampton Bus Station on 10 March (dep 21:46 11 mins late) avoid the city centre stops, by navigating around the ring road, leaving people in the city centre stranded for 50 mins or needing to seek alternative services, travel options?
Did the driver take matters into their own hands, or were they advised by Control, based on what evidence/need?
The bus also avoided Trysull Road for the most part, and avoided parts of Kingswinford.
These are hourly late eve services, not a frequent service - where, due to late running, chunks can be missed out because the next bus is only 10-15 mins behind.
Looking at the timetable data uploaded by NXWM to BODS, all N15 mon-fri services post 19:35 have "Commercial Basis" value "contracted".
Permitted values being: contracted, notContracted, partContacted, unknown.
Therefore I am correct in stating this service is not a commercially operated service, but a socially necessary service that is operated by NXWM under contract from WMCA?
bustimes.org (https://bustimes.org/services/15-wolverhampton-merry-hill-via-kingswinford/vehicles?date=2022-03-10#journeys/230975432)
Without having been on the ground, it is hard to say what actually happened.
However, yes the Evening service on the N15 is supported by TfWM.
It should be noted that Wolves were playing at home on Thursday Evening, so if there was a City Centre diversion, it would highly likely be down to this and the Ring Road was kept clear by Police?
2003 - 2009 have now been debranded from the 2
Quote from: BNH2004 on April 05, 2022, 02:41:10 PM2003 - 2009 have now been debranded from the 2
There are more deckers on the 2 nowadays, they might as well brand them for 15/16 as more b7s on there now to release deckers for the 2
Anyone know where 5417 was off to yesterday saw it by the island and Harden presumbly heading to Walsall . Could this be the next Hybrid to go have the conversion done
Are 5402 5409 and 5412 now fitted with the required customised exhaust systems, to ensure the vehicle meets Euro 6 emission compliance?
Are the remaining E400H conversions to straight diesel, returned back to NX with the necessary modified exhaust systems that certify the vehicle as Euro 6 compliant? In that vehicles are not returned back into service as euro 3 or 5 compliant, while waiting for new exhaust systems to be fitted at a later date, as has been the case for the 3 vehicles mentioned above?
No, 5402/9/12 are not yet Euro6, but the kits for them have finally arrived. All the others had the exhaust kits fitted before conversion and remain on
Quote from: Tony on April 26, 2022, 06:43:59 AMNo, 5402/9/12 are not yet Euro6, but the kits for them have finally arrived. All the others had the exhaust kits fitted before conversion and remain on
Thanks Tony.
Glad the kits have arrived. I hope the kits are installed ASAP.
Quote from: wulfrun on May 03, 2022, 12:06:24 AMThanks Tony.
Glad the kits have arrived. I hope the kits are installed ASAP.
5402 is at Graysons now, getting ready for fittment.
Can anyone tell me where I can find timetables for the 15 and 4 from 5th June as I can't find any on the NXWM website or the TFWM Website
Quote from: BNH2004 on May 05, 2022, 05:35:09 PMCan anyone tell me where I can find timetables for the 15 and 4 from 5th June as I can't find any on the NXWM website or the TFWM Website
They will be published closer to that date when officially announced.
Long term dead 5406 back out after its conversion.
Quote from: BN on May 07, 2022, 08:12:11 AMLong term dead 5406 back out after its conversion.
Thanks for info - has another one gone for conversion in replacement?
Quote from: don on May 07, 2022, 11:13:34 PMThanks for info - has another one gone for conversion in replacement?
5408
Thanks for the updates BN. BNH2004 reported on 10th May that 5412 was seen on N3, not tracking. The vehicle last tracked on 5th May. Now tracking on 11th May on N2.
Can anyone confirm if this vehicle was out in service on 8th May, and if so, on which routes?
On 8th May, the following PL routes had missing sequential journey numbers indicating a vehicle(s) was missing/had faulty tracker:N2, N3, D8, N59, 529
Thanks.
QuoteThanks for the updates BN. BNH2004 reported on 10th May that 5412 was seen on N3, not tracking. The vehicle last tracked on 5th May. Now tracking on 11th May on N2.
Can anyone confirm if this vehicle was out in service on 8th May, and if so, on which routes?
On 8th May, the following PL routes had missing sequential journey numbers indicating a vehicle(s) was missing/had faulty tracker:N2, N3, D8, N59, 529
Thanks.
They would be tracking problems WN currently have
| 845 |
| 2002 |
| 4429 |
| 4449 |
| 6768 |
| 5411 |
| 6787 |
| 6793 |
All playing up
Is 6793 on loan to West Bromwich as I've seen on bustimes as it tracking on WB82/87
QuoteIs 6793 on loan to West Bromwich as I've seen on bustimes as it tracking on WB82/87
No, 6973 has its fleetnumber programmed in wrong which is why we say reports should be 'actual' sightings
2001 now in for the new colours, 2002 should be joining it soon.
Quote from: BN on May 21, 2022, 07:37:38 AM2001 now in for the new colours, 2002 should be joining it soon.
So Crimson will be a thing of the past then?
I've missed something here.
What new colours?
Quote from: Westy on May 21, 2022, 10:52:55 AMI've missed something here.
What new colours?
Simular colours to 871 I presume red where the blue is
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/0501-0830/871.html
Will it still have "Proud to serve the city if Wolverhampton" stickers after repaint?
Quote from: BNH2004 on May 21, 2022, 11:02:55 AMSimular colours to 871 I presume red where the blue is
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/0501-0830/871.html
Now I like that!
I guess it will make it easier to transfer between WM & Coventry fleets.
Only criticism I have is yet again NX have managed to get to a point where the vehicles they are going to keep long term are all in one livery, then they start again in a new livery.
Surely it would be advisable once repaints have finished, to stick to the one livery for a few years at least?
How long are they expecting to keep vehicles painted in red & white in the fleet?
Quote from: Westy on May 21, 2022, 12:07:00 PMOnly criticism I have is yet again NX have managed to get to a point where the vehicles they are going to keep long term are all in one livery, then they start again in a new livery.
How long are they expecting to keep vehicles painted in red & white in the fleet?
BC have lots of E400 in red and white. And those E400 are still going to be in use for several years to come I would think. Others vehicles are in platinum and crimson, so 3 liveries not 1.
And I don't think any double decks have been repainted in about a year, so could be some time I guess. Bar the odd one such as 6110 of course.
Quote from: the trainbasher on May 21, 2022, 11:04:34 AMWill it still have "Proud to serve the city if Wolverhampton" stickers after repaint?
Hopefully not.
Quote from: BN on May 21, 2022, 07:37:38 AM2001 now in for the new colours, 2002 should be joining it soon.
Will these be converted to electric/ or gas as going to be in the new livery
QuoteWill these be converted to electric/ or gas as going to be in the new livery
No. Why would you convert a bus to gas when you are going zero emissions
Quote from: Tony on May 22, 2022, 09:53:55 AMNo. Why would you convert a bus to gas when you are going zero emission
When is all the zero emissions was It in 5 years if so why paint them
QuoteWhen is all the zero emissions was It in 5 years if so why paint them
2030 - 2022 gives just under 8 years
Quote from: BN on May 21, 2022, 07:37:38 AM2001 now in for the new colours, 2002 should be joining it soon.
Does this mean all vehicles are going to be painted into a new livery? What's going to happen to Platinum livery and branding? I really liked the Crimson livery 😟
Wolves open day 14th August 2022 all welcome
Owners of buses or stalls needed
Email
Mark.wood@nationalexpress.com
Or
Dave.taylor@nationalexpress.com
Quote from: karl724223 on May 26, 2022, 03:21:37 PMWolves open day 14th August 2022 all welcome
Owners of buses or stalls needed
Email
Mark.wood@nationalexpress.com
Or
Dave.taylor@nationalexpress.com
Sounds good!
Quote from: karl724223 on May 26, 2022, 03:21:37 PMWolves open day 14th August 2022 all welcome
Owners of buses or stalls needed
Email
Mark.wood@nationalexpress.com
Or
Dave.taylor@nationalexpress.com
Could you add this to the forum calendar please?
reinstated 4572 out on the 59
Quote from: Tony on May 27, 2022, 05:41:22 PMreinstated 4572 out on the 59
Yes, sounding really good too. Looking for the next project now.
Quote from: BN on May 22, 2022, 08:44:48 AMQuoteWill it still have "Proud to serve the city if Wolverhampton" stickers after repaint?
Hopefully not.
Given the lack of commitment NXWM have shown towards Wolverhampton over the past 6 years – I hope for NXWM sake that slogan goes ASAP
"
Wolverhampton – where old buses retire for one last day in the sun"
- NX Bus UK love to boast about their "leadership in sustainable transport" when winning contracts to supply the likes of Warner Brothers Studios in Hertfordshire, with electric buses (https://www.mynewsmag.co.uk/eco-initiative-warner-bros-studio-tour-watford-announces-switch-to-zero-emission-buses/), but provides nothing but excuses for failing to supply a single new vehicle in the past five and a half years for their commercial enterprise in the City of Wolverhampton.
- Wolverhampton has the only WMCA backed Bus Advanced Quality Partnership / Enhanced Partnership Zone that sees Zero use of NX Zero emission buses.
- Wolverhampton AQPS Euro 6 emission deadline date delayed by 16 months to 24th April 2022 at NXWM request, back in 2018, when regulators were in consultation with operators over the original proposals for Wolverhampton AQPS released in 2017.
- NXWM is the only operator in Wolverhampton that does not meet AQPS Emission Standards, where on weekdays around 42 vehicles with an average age of 18 years provide 22% to 29% of journeys for 31 routes that use the AQPS facilities that fail to meet emission requirements. Where the worst offending routes, also serve many economically deprived communities in Wolverhampton, thus providing them with the worst air quality too.
- The average age of vehicles used for public service is 11 years 9 months, 2nd worst after Acocks Green with 11 years 11 months
- With NX Bus UK announcing a ban on all new diesel and hybrid vehicles from Feb 2020, and no investment for Zero Emission Infrastructure installations for Park Lane in the foreseeable future, means WMT Ltd will continue to cascade end of life diesel vehicles from other garages into Wolverhampton. Notably from Coventry, Birmingham and Walsall as and when new zero emission vehicles are delivered to these garages. If Park Lane receive their first Zero Emission vehicles by 2026 - it will be 10 years since a new vehicle has been delivered to Wolverhampton.
- In attempt to pretend NXWM are doing something for Wolverhampton over the coming years, buses cascaded to Wolverhampton will receive a new grey livery, similar to the livery WMT Ltd have spent the past 8 years marketing to the public as a livery that represents "high quality", Platinum service.
- The smallest Borough in WM County and the only borough in Black Country NXWM refuse to support with Low Fare Zone since inception in 2017.
- NXWM provide bus solutions between key city district centres that are quicker to walk in 30-40 minutes due to the need to use 2 buses paying £4(.60) when the journey should take less than 12 mins on a short hop ticket. Where if you do take the bus, there is a 23% chance your vehicle will be over 18 years old and fail to meet City of Wolverhampton emission standards.
- NXWM provide a citywide network that has seen journeys cut by 12% since COVID lockdowns ended in Summer 2021.
- Newest PL vehicles Enviro400 MMC Platinum of 2016 vintage are allocated to D8/X8 and 529 corridors, where they spend more time and mileage outside of Wolverhampton than within, and also charge higher fares covering the shorter distances travelled within Wolverhampton, on the same route, operated by the same vehicle that is based in Wolverhampton.
(https://www.expressandstar.com/resizer/4sx6YGf0gmap6NSBcgW3-x9RSuc=/1200x0/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/mna/GRO5462AUFACFNXF7FEBWELRIA.jpg)
Image Source: Express and Star
Quote from: wulfrun on May 31, 2022, 12:04:54 AMHopefully not.
Given the lack of commitment NXWM have shown towards Wolverhampton over the past 6 years – I hope for NXWM sake that slogan goes ASAP
"Wolverhampton – where old buses retire for one last day in the sun"
- NX Bus UK love to boast about their "leadership in sustainable transport" when winning contracts to supply the likes of Warner Brothers Studios in Hertfordshire, with electric buses (https://www.mynewsmag.co.uk/eco-initiative-warner-bros-studio-tour-watford-announces-switch-to-zero-emission-buses/), but provides nothing but excuses for failing to supply a single new vehicle in the past five and a half years for their commercial enterprise in the City of Wolverhampton.
- Wolverhampton has the only WMCA backed Bus Advanced Quality Partnership / Enhanced Partnership Zone that sees Zero use of NX Zero emission buses.
- Wolverhampton AQPS Euro 6 emission deadline date delayed by 16 months to 24th April 2022 at NXWM request, back in 2018, when regulators were in consultation with operators over the original proposals for Wolverhampton AQPS released in 2017.
- NXWM is the only operator in Wolverhampton that does not meet AQPS Emission Standards, where on weekdays around 42 vehicles with an average age of 18 years provide 22% to 29% of journeys for 31 routes that use the AQPS facilities that fail to meet emission requirements. Where the worst offending routes, also serve many economically deprived communities in Wolverhampton, thus providing them with the worst air quality too.
- The average age of vehicles used for public service is 11 years 9 months, 2nd worst after Acocks Green with 11 years 11 months
- With NX Bus UK announcing a ban on all new diesel and hybrid vehicles from Feb 2020, and no investment for Zero Emission Infrastructure installations for Park Lane in the foreseeable future, means WMT Ltd will continue to cascade end of life diesel vehicles from other garages into Wolverhampton. Notably from Coventry, Birmingham and Walsall as and when new zero emission vehicles are delivered to these garages. If Park Lane receive their first Zero Emission vehicles by 2026 - it will be 10 years since a new vehicle has been delivered to Wolverhampton.
- In attempt to pretend NXWM are doing something for Wolverhampton over the coming years, buses cascaded to Wolverhampton will receive a new grey livery, similar to the livery WMT Ltd have spent the past 8 years marketing to the public as a livery that represents "high quality", Platinum service.
- The smallest Borough in WM County and the only borough in Black Country NXWM refuse to support with Low Fare Zone since inception in 2017.
- NXWM provide bus solutions between key city district centres that are quicker to walk in 30-40 minutes due to the need to use 2 buses paying £4(.60) when the journey should take less than 12 mins on a short hop ticket. Where if you do take the bus, there is a 23% chance your vehicle will be over 18 years old and fail to meet City of Wolverhampton emission standards.
- NXWM provide a citywide network that has seen journeys cut by 12% since COVID lockdowns ended in Summer 2021.
- Newest PL vehicles Enviro400 MMC Platinum of 2016 vintage are allocated to D8/X8 and 529 corridors, where they spend more time and mileage outside of Wolverhampton than within, and also charge higher fares covering the shorter distances travelled within Wolverhampton, on the same route, operated by the same vehicle that is based in Wolverhampton.
(https://www.expressandstar.com/resizer/4sx6YGf0gmap6NSBcgW3-x9RSuc=/1200x0/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/mna/GRO5462AUFACFNXF7FEBWELRIA.jpg)
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Well that is a rant and a half even for the standards set by some members on here!
Clearly you missed the last bus last night or something to have such a pessimistic (and wholly unrealistic) view of current operating conditions post- COVID.
Perhaps this lack of investment is down to the fact many Wolverhampton routes are now just about break even (when in the past sufficient passenger numbers would have made them profitable enough for investment). Very many areas across the country are in a similar position and thus don't use new buses on routes as that would make the route unviable financially. Please don't wish for a situation where there are new buses running in Wolvo on a few routes but others are completely cut because the old buses just about made them viable, without them they no longer are.
There have been cuts industry wide in the last 2 years for obvious reasons. Wolvo is no exception and overall still has a decent network for local passengers. You fail to mention the fact that Wolvo passengers can still travel all around the West Midlands and into Staffordshire, and Warwickshire even, for JUST £4. That is amazing value in these current time of increased prices and inflation.
Those Tridents may well be 18 years old but NXWM have some of the best engineers in the industry and these buses are maintained to a high standard. Going back 12 years, even 28 year old Metrobuses were still turned out by them well and were mechanically sound. Age is just a number of a bus is well maintained. Likewise, Euro 3/4 buses are not 'dirty' compared to vehicles in the past just not as clean as Euro 6 obviously. Also, the standards over the years of competing companies in Wolvo have hardly been high with clapped out darts and solos running round. I can't imagine they enticed many potential passengers to use the bus.
How much investment are Wolvo council putting into buses? There seems to be a West Midlands wide obsession with the tram at the expense of other transport methods. Maybe the local council could give more support to local buses - the reason Coventry is getting such massive investment is because the local councils (Coventry, Warwickshire etc plus obviously NWM) around there have all contributed towards the new vehicles. It is easy to blame the operator when investment also needs to come from other stakeholders. Look at the situation in Worcestershire, little to no investment from the local authority = little to no investment in new buses.
I think you need a more pragmatic view about the bus industry currently. What Wolvo has compared to other areas of the country is a good network and the day ticket offers excellent value. Perhaps look down the road to Cannock to see what other areas have to put up with before being too critical.
2001 is back.
2001 is on WN15 about to leave Merry Hill for Wolvo
2001 is joining 2957 & 4535 on way to Gaydon.
4449 has a scrolling destination while on the 4, its like this picture below, are the destinations reverting back to the older font that they used to use
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/25965187881/in/photolist-FysnK8-yCieya-seqyqX-pzw88h-29fHe67-263PXg6-H6uwJR-YDoQCh-QzzxkS-2mr2wqG-NsV6sg-P4kXQ5-JfGj3A-FWtWE4-Ggm7Bc-2mYChnv-zyLLQj-wzHPGp-KTQ4cr-rdYW5N-r7KuLB-pJ7iHM-2i2pzTC-kE8ZWH-iJYDSQ-Dj62vR-iNQeVm-fWokeM-f1XKN8-eXYryk-f1WGPR-eiDKbN-e4VCYM-oorhrm-o8kznW-d3dDo5-c4MrHb-bUJsKo-bGDsPz-bnxmec-atjibB-boUW2r-ayiJma-agBHWF-sLfAVT-22LNdew-9tfwJy-9tmiB3-dYC2bW-9tWrSv
Quote4449 has a scrolling destination while on the 4, its like this picture below, are the destinations reverting back to the older font that they used to use
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/25965187881/in/photolist-FysnK8-yCieya-seqyqX-pzw88h-29fHe67-263PXg6-H6uwJR-YDoQCh-QzzxkS-2mr2wqG-NsV6sg-P4kXQ5-JfGj3A-FWtWE4-Ggm7Bc-2mYChnv-zyLLQj-wzHPGp-KTQ4cr-rdYW5N-r7KuLB-pJ7iHM-2i2pzTC-kE8ZWH-iJYDSQ-Dj62vR-iNQeVm-fWokeM-f1XKN8-eXYryk-f1WGPR-eiDKbN-e4VCYM-oorhrm-o8kznW-d3dDo5-c4MrHb-bUJsKo-bGDsPz-bnxmec-atjibB-boUW2r-ayiJma-agBHWF-sLfAVT-22LNdew-9tfwJy-9tmiB3-dYC2bW-9tWrSv
My best guess is that the controller hasn't had its destination display updated. Out of around 1600 buses, there's always a handful that's likely to be missed!!!
There was a '66 reg BC platinum that still had 23 to Woodgate (with a scrolling display) 6 months after the network review, so it's likely the same thing has happened here (obviously less than 6 months but still).
Not sure whether this is a first, but the 4 buses that I saw on the 15 in the Bromley Lane area on Wednesday lunch time were in 4 different liveries - 4540 (red and white), 443? (crimson), 6760 (platinum), 2001 (new grey and red). I'm sure this will confuse some passengers.
Quote from: Roy on July 10, 2022, 01:22:46 PMNot sure whether this is a first, but the 4 buses that I saw on the 15 in the Bromley Lane area on Wednesday lunch time were in 4 different liveries - 4540 (red and white), 443? (crimson), 6760 (platinum), 2001 (new grey and red). I'm sure this will confuse some passengers.
Thought WN didn't use Tridents on Sundays?
Quote from: Jack on July 10, 2022, 02:26:36 PMThought WN didn't use Tridents on Sundays?
His put Wednesday mate
Quote from: Jack6101 on July 10, 2022, 02:27:52 PMHis put Wednesday mate
My mistake.
Quote from: Roy on July 10, 2022, 01:22:46 PMNot sure whether this is a first, but the 4 buses that I saw on the 15 in the Bromley Lane area on Wednesday lunch time were in 4 different liveries - 4540 (red and white), 443? (crimson), 6760 (platinum), 2001 (new grey and red). I'm sure this will confuse some passengers.
I don't understand why another livery is introduced, when there's still red and white vehicles going round. The new one looks better than the Platinum but grey is such a dreary colour.
Is 2005 in paint as it tracked since 28th June?
QuoteIs 2005 in paint as it tracked since 28th June?
No
2002 back and in service, 2006 now in for refurb
I was just looking at the 4 timetable for the cycling race for the commonwealth games (4th August) it says there are only 3 trips between Wolverhampton and Spring Hill between the start of service and 16:30
Is the timetable correct or is it an error?
Quote from: BNH2004 on July 21, 2022, 12:44:00 PMI was just looking at the 4 timetable for the cycling race for the commonwealth games (4th August) it says there are only 3 trips between Wolverhampton and Spring Hill between the start of service and 16:30
Is the timetable correct or is it an error?
See: https://www.tfwm.org.uk/plan-your-journey/discover-the-west-midlands/birmingham-2022-commonwealth-games/travelling-by-bus-or-tram/
| 4 | i54 - Spring Hill | Service will be split into two sections for the day:
Spring Hill to City Centre section will terminate at the special event Chapel Ash Terminus
The I54 to City Centre section will terminate at Stafford Street (Stop AB) on inbound journeys service will run via Ring Rd St Patricks and Broad Street to Stafford Street |
Quote from: Stu on July 21, 2022, 01:10:03 PMSee: https://www.tfwm.org.uk/plan-your-journey/discover-the-west-midlands/birmingham-2022-commonwealth-games/travelling-by-bus-or-tram/
| 4 | i54 - Spring Hill | Service will be split into two sections for the day:
Spring Hill to City Centre section will terminate at the special event Chapel Ash Terminus
The I54 to City Centre section will terminate at Stafford Street (Stop AB) on inbound journeys service will run via Ring Rd St Patricks and Broad Street to Stafford Street |
Looking at that link, I don't think those wanting to go to Merry Hill from Wombourne will be happy as apparently the 15 is Chapel Ash - Wombourne only
I suppose 'Chapel Ash' will appear as a terminal point on the displays?
Quote from: Westy on July 21, 2022, 06:45:32 PMI suppose 'Chapel Ash' will appear as a terminal point on the displays?
I suppose the "Short Working" displays will show
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 21, 2022, 10:16:49 PMI suppose the "Short Working" displays will show
Does '529 Town Wharf' appear on a regular basis?
I get the impression that the driver of 6769 is slightly not with it this morning, as they missed the turning onto St Paul's Street, causing them to go round Walsall Bus Station again!
Quote from: Westy on July 22, 2022, 07:02:22 AMI get the impression that the driver of 6769 is slightly not with it this morning, as they missed the turning onto St Paul's Street, causing them to go round Walsall Bus Station again!
Checking Bustimes.org just, it was 10 mins approx late, then went out of service at Neachells, heading up to Wednesfield for some reason.
Came back into service towards Walsall at Deans Road roughly 20 to 25 minutes ago.
QuoteChecking Bustimes.org just, it was 10 mins approx late, then went out of service at Neachells, heading up to Wednesfield for some reason.
Came back into service towards Walsall at Deans Road roughly 20 to 25 minutes ago.
Apart from the fact it wasn't 10 minutes late and ran in service all the way to Wolverhampton on time. As has been pointed out before bustimes currently has next weeks timetables in for some reason, so it left at 06:58 exactly on time and arrived in Wolverhampton exactly on time at 07:34, hence why it stopped tracking at that time
Quote from: Tony on July 22, 2022, 08:34:13 AMApart from the fact it wasn't 10 minutes late and ran in service all the way to Wolverhampton on time. As has been pointed out before bustimes currently has next weeks timetables in for some reason, so it left at 06:58 exactly on time and arrived in Wolverhampton exactly on time at 07:34, hence why it stopped tracking at that time
Any idea why it ended up in Wednesfield, on the map, or is that something to do with next week as well?
Fingers crossed 2005 should be joining 2003; 2004; 2006 at paintshop ready for Monday
2003 now back and in service.
If its of interest to anyone, the E400H conversions have now been completed.
Fleet is 5401-5410 & 5412
Quote from: BN on July 30, 2022, 02:55:15 PMIf its of interest to anyone, the E400H conversions have now been completed.
Fleet is 5401-5410 & 5412
Are these technically now just 'regular' Enviro400s then?
(I've seen some arguments breaking out on BusTimes, that's all)
Quote from: BN on July 30, 2022, 02:55:15 PMIf its of interest to anyone, the E400H conversions have now been completed.
Fleet is 5401-5410 & 5412
Is there no 5411?
Quote from: Stu on July 30, 2022, 03:52:41 PMAre these technically now just 'regular' Enviro400s then?
(I've seen some arguments breaking out on BusTimes, that's all)
Yes they are
@Stu standard E400 diesel upgraded to Euro 6
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on July 30, 2022, 04:01:33 PMIs there no 5411?
Yes, its still an E400H, not been converted.
Have they upgraded the engines to the standard Euro6, which is the 6-cylinder? I thought it was just 5409 that was the standard 6 cylinder, the others retaining their 4-cylinders. And are the other E400Hs 5413 on not going to be converted?
QuoteHave they upgraded the engines to the standard Euro6, which is the 6-cylinder? I thought it was just 5409 that was the standard 6 cylinder, the others retaining their 4-cylinders. And are the other E400Hs 5413 on not going to be converted?
All 30 have been upgraded to euro 6, all except 5409 retain the original (or replacement identical) engines
5407 is now back from its diesel conversion about to go on the 7
What sort of display are Wolverhampton vehicles using today for the diversions?
Is 'Chapel Ash' appearing as a destination, or are standard displays being used & the drivers are telling the passengers verbally?
1 of 3 sections of the 1 is being operated by PNs Enviro 200s
27 is being operated by PNs Eclipses
7 is being operated with 4438 and PNs buses
Quote from: Westy on August 04, 2022, 07:12:10 AMWhat sort of display are Wolverhampton vehicles using today for the diversions?
Is 'Chapel Ash' appearing as a destination, or are standard displays being used & the drivers are telling the passengers verbally?
The 15/16 are some are using 15E/16E Wolverhampton with no via points
And others are using 15E/16E Wolverhampton Chappel Ash
Quote from: BNH2004 on August 04, 2022, 09:13:33 AM1 of 3 sections of the 1 is being operated by PNs Enviro 200s
27 is being operated by PNs Eclipses
7 is being operated with 4438 and PNs buses
Did wonder whether another depot would help out, due to where some of the diversions were.
Quote from: Stevo on July 31, 2022, 11:43:42 AMHave they upgraded the engines to the standard Euro6, which is the 6-cylinder? I thought it was just 5409 that was the standard 6 cylinder, the others retaining their 4-cylinders. And are the other E400Hs 5413 on not going to be converted?
whats the performance like on a 4 cylinder cummins powering a double decker, i assume during conversion to 6 cylinders a gearbox is added and rear axle swap, must be quite the undertaking.
Are these enviro 400h not suitable for full EV conversions or is it case of not enough service life left in them to warrant the cost.
With the open day on Sunday & running a shuttle service to the garage what are the times for it also no mention of what buses will be turning up for the event
Was there an issue between Willenhall & J10 this morning, as I had to wait ages for a 529 from Walsall, then when 6763 turned up, he did normal route up to Primley Avenue, then he asked the passengers if they wanted stops in between, otherwise the next stop was Willenhall.
He diverted via the Bcr as far as the Keyway then went the back way into Willenhall via Rose Hill (He dropped me & another guy by the industrial estate there, (Thanks!))
According to Bustimes.org, 6764, who was with us as far as J10, missed the Keyway turn off & ended up turning round in Bilston!
Edit - Now found out there was a collision on Wolverhampton Road West!
Well I was going to goto the open day, but I've just tested positive for the 2nd time!
:(
QuoteWell I was going to goto the open day, but I've just tested positive for the 2nd time!
:(
Hope you get well soon
Is there a few buses missing on the 15 tonight? The 19.50 from merry hill never showed up and the 2035 is looking to not run, nothing on bus times (only one 15 tracking it's the 2030 from Wolverhampton) and no mention of service adjustments on the nx site.
QuoteIs there a few buses missing on the 15 tonight? The 19.50 from merry hill never showed up and the 2035 is looking to not run, nothing on bus times (only one 15 tracking it's the 2030 from Wolverhampton) and no mention of service adjustments on the nx site.
The buses are probably late or not tracking
6795 was swapped off the 16 at Wolverhampton Bus Station with 2003 going on there instead for some reason.
4446 WN-WITHDRAWN
2005 now back from paint, replaced by 2009
2007 is back from paint
2008 also now back from paint.
Replacements going in monday
Seeking Euro 6 updates....
With the recent demise of 4572 and 4633, are the vehicles listed below the remaining vehicles at PL that don't meet Euro 6 emission standards, required for Wolverhampton AQPS?
4311, 4425, 4427, 4428, 4429, 4431, 4432, 4433, 4434, 4435
4436, 4438, 4440, 4441, 4442, 4443, 4445, 4448, 4464, 4536
4537, 4538, 4539, 4540, 4541, 4542, 4553, 4556, 4558, 4559
4560, 4561, 4562, 4563, 4577, 4619, 4634
This fleet of 37 vehicles has an average age of 19 years and according to data sourced from each vehicle via NXWM BODS feed, the 39 vehicles mentioned have provided between 20-27% of NXWM journeys in/out Wolverhampton City Centre - Mon to Sat - during the summer time table.
In the past week (Mon-Sat), the above 37 vehicles provided an average of 22% of total journeys scheduled, where 88% of the schedule was successfully tracked. The missing 12% of the schedule, is due to missing / incomplete / incorrect readings. Also included are the trips made by 4348, 4566, 4567, 4578 from WA on W9, the only NXWM route that does not use PL vehicles working to/from Wolverhampton City Centre. I assume these WA vehicles are not Euro 6 compliant either?
6955/6957 have made their WN debut on the 15/16 today
Quote from: BK63 YWP on October 26, 2022, 04:29:37 PM6955/6957 have made their WN debut on the 15/16 today
I would imagine those non euro 6 vehicles will be replaced imminently with various cascades, with the new electric fleet at Coventry growing in size weekly.
6955 on the X8 Dudley to Blackheath yesterday. Noticed it has Red upper wrapper instead of the purple it had in Coventry. Thought the purple would match the regular 67xx's on the X8.
Everything inside still registering Coventry though.
Quote from: barry on November 10, 2022, 06:28:45 PM6955 on the X8 Dudley to Blackheath yesterday. Noticed it has Red upper wrapper instead of the purple it had in Coventry. Thought the purple would match the regular 67xx's on the X8.
Standard price branding.
Not sure why it would be purple. Its not an X8 branded bus so can be used anywhere as well as the 8/X8. Including regular trips on the 529, 15/16.
What's happened to 2080 as it hasn't tracked ans I haven't seen it in service since July
Edit - Just seen Tony's post in 'Vehicles away from home garage' thread from 3rd November
Quote from: 2206 on November 10, 2022, 07:36:48 PMStandard price branding.
Not sure why it would be purple. Its not an X8 branded bus so can be used anywhere as well as the 8/X8. Including regular trips on the 529, 15/16.
There was a time when price branded vehicles were done in the same colour as rest of corridor it operated on, makes sense to use one colour as you say use any where
4988 on 529 and 4995 on X8.
4990 and 4995 have been debranded from the Coventry 13.
Looks like 3/4 are now allocated Eclipse 2s and Enviro 200s
Quote from: BNH2004 on January 03, 2023, 04:54:15 PMLooks like 3/4 are now allocated Eclipse 2s and Enviro 200s
4442 on the 3 today.
You have to wonder why some drivers bother!
Take today's driver of 6769 on the 529 for instance.
Whether this is still a Nx requirement, or whether he's doing it for himself, before letting passengers on, he's generally tidying the vehicle, including opening all the windows to let air through.
Within 5 minutes, at least 2 downstairs windows were shut, presumably because the passengers concerned were cold!
So no one gives a 4x about Covid then?
QuoteYou have to wonder why some drivers bother!
Take today's driver of 6769 on the 529 for instance.
Whether this is still a Nx requirement, or whether he's doing it for himself, before letting passengers on, he's generally tidying the vehicle, including opening all the windows to let air through.
Within 5 minutes, at least 2 downstairs windows were shut, presumably because the passengers concerned were cold!
So no one gives a 4x about Covid then?
I believe Covid is more manageable now than when it first started, the Flu and other winter bugs are having a sesh ATM. It's up to the passengers if windows stay open.
Quote from: Westy on February 01, 2023, 07:03:18 AMYou have to wonder why some drivers bother!
Take today's driver of 6769 on the 529 for instance.
Whether this is still a Nx requirement, or whether he's doing it for himself, before letting passengers on, he's generally tidying the vehicle, including opening all the windows to let air through.
Within 5 minutes, at least 2 downstairs windows were shut, presumably because the passengers concerned were cold!
So no one gives a 4x about Covid then?
The thing is endemic now, and everyone has either been jabbed, had a bout of it and developed natural immunity, or declined to take the shots; so as a society we have to get back to normal. If people so desire they can take other precautions for themselves, and a minority still do, but really speaking, keeping cosy on public transport in winter is probably rather popular to be honest!
WN seemed to have several problems today. Firstly buses on the 15/16 running up to 15 minutes late, one breaking down (2086) and the replacement bus running one hour late and turning short. Also missing was the last two journeys on service 61.
What Hybrids have been converted/ being converted to diesel?
I might be wrong but im sure i saw 755 on the 11 today?
Don't know why the driver of 2014 on the 15:40 to merry hill is displaying 16 Stourbridge for. I didn't board thinking his displays were correct - obviously not!!!
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 11, 2023, 03:47:43 PMDon't know why the driver of 2014 on the 15:40 to merry hill is displaying 16 Stourbridge for. I didn't board thinking his displays were correct - obviously not!!!
Probably forgot to change it
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on March 11, 2023, 03:48:52 PMProbably forgot to change it
Oh that's alright then. We wonder why the public have 0 confidence in the public transport sector. He was displaying 16 Stourbridge not 16 Wolverhampton
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 11, 2023, 04:49:11 PMOh that's alright then. We wonder why the public have 0 confidence in the public transport sector. He was displaying 16 Stourbridge not 16 Wolverhampton
Was it after a driver change? It may be that the new driver was on board and the driver who had finished set it up for another 16 with the new driver not checking the display. Alternatively it was simply human error as no one is perfect.
You do the job and see if you always remember
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 11, 2023, 04:49:11 PMOh that's alright then. We wonder why the public have 0 confidence in the public transport sector. He was displaying 16 Stourbridge not 16 Wolverhampton
Did you or the other passengers actually bother to let the driver know it was wrong when you were on the bus or did you just keep quiet so you could moan on here?
Also, there are occasional faults with displays that get frozen on the main destination display yet are showing as correct in the drivers cab display. Maybe don't jump straight to criticising the driver.
Quote from: j789 on March 11, 2023, 08:01:05 PMDid you or the other passengers actually bother to let the driver know it was wrong when you were on the bus or did you just keep quiet so you could moan on here?
Also, there are occasional faults with displays that get frozen on the main destination display yet are showing as correct in the drivers cab display. Maybe don't jump straight to criticising the driver.
I actually didn't board the bus much to my annoyance
4994s first day at WN is on the 16 if anyone wants to find it
4441 is out on the 79 today, looks likely to be its last day before withdrawal
Quote from: Tony on March 17, 2023, 08:25:42 AM4994s first day at WN is on the 16 if anyone wants to find it
Saw 4994 yesterday on the 59 - still sporting full NXC branding and yet to receive to its red NXWM overbranding.
Quote from: Wumpty on March 29, 2023, 08:28:58 AMSaw 4994 yesterday on the 59 - still sporting full NXC branding and yet to receive to its red NXWM overbranding.
Im surprised there not re stickered at cv before transferring
Has 754 755 gone to wolv from neat
Any reason why we are now getting short wheel base E200s on the 10 to Perton? Have noticed them quite regularly over the last week or so.
Two journeys didn't show up at the bus station this afternoon. When a bus did turn up it was the short E200 which was crush loaded! How it wasn't over capacity I will never know as the driver kept picking up more and more people through town.
Noticed 15/16s have been single deckers today, are trees causing issues again
@BN
Quote from: BK63 YWP on April 06, 2023, 11:06:24 PMNoticed 15/16s have been single deckers today, are trees causing issues again @BN
They've been single deck all week. The bus I caught back from Merry Hill yesterday afternoon was full and standing.
Quote from: BK63 YWP on April 06, 2023, 11:06:24 PMNoticed 15/16s have been single deckers today, are trees causing issues again @BN
On diversion
I've noticed on bus times that Wolverhampton seem to be running the 701 school service this afternoon. Have they took it over from Walsall garage.
QuoteI've noticed on bus times that Wolverhampton seem to be running the 701 school service this afternoon. Have they took it over from Walsall garage.
I think so Walsall have kept the Morning Run as I see this the morning journey every day but afternoons have gone to Wolverhampton
How will the A449 closure from later this month affect the 15/16 from Wolverhampton?
What's happened to 4986, I haven't seen it and it hasn't tracked for a while
Quote from: BNH2004 on June 05, 2023, 05:48:38 PMWhat's happened to 4986, I haven't seen it and it hasn't tracked for a while
It's at bc for repairs
Anyone wanting last rides on 4442 & 4558 then do it in the next few days.
Quote from: BN on June 24, 2023, 02:58:35 PMAnyone wanting last rides on 4442 & 4558 then do it in the next few days.
Will they be out tomorrow
5416 coming down Wolverhampton Rd and turned left in to Green Lane heading to Beechdale at 9.35am today. Surely it should have been going in to the bus station first. People standing in Walsall bus station not happy about it not turning up as this is the first one from Walsall on a Sunday at 9.45am.
Quote from: PB50 on June 25, 2023, 09:44:06 AM5416 coming down Wolverhampton Rd and turned left in to Green Lane heading to Beechdale at 9.35am today. Surely it should have been going in to the bus station first. People standing in Walsall bus station not happy about it not turning up as this is the first one from Walsall on a Sunday at 9.45am.
Do drivers still use printed running boards or is this info now displayed on ticket machines?, as there seems to be many issues lately with drivers seemingly not following the correct instructions.
It looks like 5416 was running dead towards Walsall BS to commence the 9:45 but then turned back to Wood End to operate the 9:03 to Walsall at around 50 minutes late so was completely pointless and thus caused it to lose much more mileage afterwards.
Quote from: JPC on June 25, 2023, 11:47:48 AMDo drivers still use printed running boards or is this info now displayed on ticket machines?, as there seems to be many issues lately with drivers seemingly not following the correct instructions.
It looks like 5416 was running dead towards Walsall BS to commence the 9:45 but then turned back to Wood End to operate the 9:03 to Walsall at around 50 minutes late so was completely pointless and thus caused it to lose much more mileage afterwards.
We do still use printed running boards as well as the ticket machine giving us info, not sure how the driver got the dead route wrong but maybe its a case of his/her running board the day before had a certain dead route and he read it wrong or he/she was in a bit of a rush and just went into autopilot. I know from my experience that I have picked up my running board expecting a dead route to my outer terminus but its a dead route to my inner terminus
Slight change from 4442 to 4619, but anyone that wants 4442 or 4538 do it now.
4989 now back out of paint, replaced with 2070.
Should be out tomorrow hopefully
Quote from: BN on July 02, 2023, 07:21:24 AMSlight change from 4442 to 4619, but anyone that wants 4442 or 4538 do it now.
Once 4442 & 4538 get withdrawn will all vehicles in WN be fully Euro 6?
Quote from: BNH2004 on July 02, 2023, 09:01:00 AMOnce 4442 & 4538 get withdrawn will all vehicles in WN be fully Euro 6?
Yes
Quote from: Tony on July 02, 2023, 09:16:22 AMYes
Quote from: BNH2004 on July 02, 2023, 09:01:00 AMOnce 4442 & 4538 get withdrawn will all vehicles in WN be fully Euro 6?
@Tony has 4442 finally been withdrawn now as it's in the PN staff car park, assumed it's waiting to be stowed inside the gated area?
5422 could be on a BC route this week. Then off to milbrook
Quote from: BN on July 23, 2023, 07:33:59 AM5422 could be on a BC route this week. Then off to milbrook
Millbrook the vehicle testing and proving facility?
Saw a b7 in depot with 530 rocket pool on the blinds , nx taking this route ?
Quote from: 4311 on August 10, 2023, 09:05:52 PMSaw a b7 in depot with 530 rocket pool on the blinds , nx taking this route ?
Contract not up until October. Also many unused destinations will be programmed into the database/software used to set blinds.
Quote from: Rachvince53 on August 10, 2023, 09:51:02 PMContract not up until October. Also many unused destinations will be programmed into the database/software used to set blinds.
Presumbly in case Nx ever take over the service for any reason.
Does that mean Walsall has the 326 programmed 'just in case'?
Quote from: Westy on August 11, 2023, 06:53:42 AMPresumbly in case Nx ever take over the service for any reason.
Does that mean Walsall has the 326 programmed 'just in case'?
319 incoming :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
QuotePresumbly in case Nx ever take over the service for any reason.
Does that mean Walsall has the 326 programmed 'just in case'?
To be fair, WA have done the 326 before.
Think the Rotala 'Simon Dunn' thread might give an answer regarding the 530?
Seems it is going to NX then , as stated above this route isn't already programmed into old blinds its a new addition , didn't want to comment this before until somebody said something:)
Noticed the 15/16 have gone single deck, are there more pesky tree causes havoc?
@BN
I've heard that services 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 6A, 15, 15A, 16, 25, 61, 62 and 62A are having some changes from the 24th September, What's changing?
Quote from: BNH2004 on September 02, 2023, 12:01:32 AMI've heard that services 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 6A, 15, 15A, 16, 25, 61, 62 and 62A are having some changes from the 24th September, What's changing?
Probably just timetable changes.
Quote from: Stu on September 02, 2023, 09:44:07 AMProbably just timetable changes.
Step up for when the Universities go back
Looks like NXWM is loosing the 5 to Banga Buses from 6th November 2023
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/615969/
Quote from: BNH2004 on September 20, 2023, 05:09:48 PMLooks like NXWM is loosing the 5 to Banga Buses from 6th November 2023
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/615969/
Looks like NX have cancelled it. So no more NX services to Codsall anymore other than the closed door 710.
Quote from: 2206 on September 20, 2023, 05:18:12 PMLooks like NX have cancelled it. So no more NX services to Codsall anymore other than the closed door 710.
The 10B still runs doesn't it?
Quote from: Jack on September 20, 2023, 05:53:44 PMThe 10B still runs doesn't it?
No. Was cancelled from the start of September.
End of an era then, as far as I remember, as I had seen the Codsall service (the 535) in the first of the combined Wmpte North Division timetable booklets in 1981.
Presumbly it was an ex Wolves Corp service?
It runs 7 days doesnt it & evenings?
Banga doesn't do that does it?
Potentially nx could be running the 5 at night and Sundays as banga doesn't do evenings or Sunday. Was the 5 commercially ran?
Quote from: BK63 YWP on September 20, 2023, 07:10:10 PMPotentially nx could be running the 5 at night and Sundays as banga doesn't do evenings or Sunday. Was the 5 commercially ran?
Neither registration shows as being supported by subsidy so presumably yes, unless there's a data error.
If it's been deemed commercially unviable by NX then I'd think it unlikely they'd just operate the evening and Sunday journeys alone.
If it's a 'borderline' service, it might be more viable for a smaller operator with lower overheads to make it work.
Quote from: BK63 YWP on September 20, 2023, 07:10:10 PMPotentially nx could be running the 5 at night and Sundays as banga doesn't do evenings or Sunday. Was the 5 commercially ran?
The NXWM 5 was commercial & they've chosen to withdraw it completely, its been planned for some time.
Quote from: Westy on September 20, 2023, 06:18:11 PMEnd of an era then, as far as I remember, as I had seen the Codsall service (the 535) in the first of the combined Wmpte North Division timetable booklets in 1981.
Presumbly it was an ex Wolves Corp service?
It runs 7 days doesnt it & evenings?
Banga doesn't do that does it?
Yes, it was run by Wolves Corp (as a 35 possibly?). At one time there was also a 534 I think which ran only as far as Bilbrook. Banga also ran a 634 to Bilbrook for a number of years. Before they pulled out of operating contract services (and most commercial services) in the West Midlands, Midland Red West ran the Sunday service on the 535.
Where does the 5 turn arround in Codsall... never been does it just do a one way loop or does it turn in the road??
Quote from: danny on September 20, 2023, 08:10:41 PMWhere does the 5 turn arround in Codsall... never been does it just do a one way loop or does it turn in the road??
when the buses reach bakers way terminus, just past it theres a little cut through road which is buses only, it enables the bus to to turn right out of the little lane that also feeds the co-op and club so it can rejoin bakers way and start back towards wolverhampton, or whereever.
Really surprised they are withdrawing the 5, remember it in the 70s back then there where two services 14 & 15 the 14 went down NRE, court Rd, then up to clargate Island, then up Pendeford Avenue, Windermere Road, Birches Road to Birches Bridge, then Duck Lane where it terminated opposite the woodman. The 15 went the back way round whitmore Reans like the 5 does today. Stavelley Road then as the 5 does today until Birches Bridge
then direct along Wolverhampton Road to Moatbrook Avenue. When Pendeford estate was created in the late 70s the services where changed with the 14 renumbered 537 & the route amended to Serve Pendeford est and entering Bilbrook via Barnhurst Lane, Windermere Road was left with no services, The 15 was renumbered 535 but the route stayed the same, not sure when the Moatbrook Ave terminus was changed to Bakers Way but it must have been somewhere in the mid 80s. The 537 was withdrawn around 1986s leaving Bilbrook with very little bus routes until 2012 when services were changed in Wolverhampton.
Like others have said Banga have competed on the service before, at one time there was a bus ever 10 minutes between Wolverhampton & Codsall,
What was the 9 brand platuim in Wolverhampton garage
5 was a longstanding Wolverhampton Corporation bus route starting almost 100 years ago on 17-Nov-1923.
It became the 15 when route numbers were introduced in 1929 along with 15A to Codsall Wood and 15B to Weston-under-Lizard via Bishops Wood. 15A and 15B became 53 in Jun-1949 and was extended to Blymhill Church in Jul 1949. There was also an 83 service to Bishops Wood via Codsall Wood. The 53 & 83 was transferred to Midland Red 879 & 884 in Dec-1973.
The 63 service to Bilbrook was introduced 27-Feb-1950
Quote from: 18WilliamsLi on September 22, 2023, 02:39:38 PMWhat was the 9 brand platuim in Wolverhampton garage
Isn't it on loan?
Quote from: karl724223 on September 22, 2023, 04:36:14 PMProbably vi or mot
More like a breakdown as 9 brands are crap
Quote from: 18WilliamsLi on September 22, 2023, 05:24:31 PMMore like a breakdown as 9 brands are crap
What makes you say that?
Quote from: 18WilliamsLi on September 22, 2023, 05:24:31 PMMore like a breakdown as 9 brands are crap
Proof or you just dribbling crap again
I've been on the 9 this week and had no problem at all with the buses I've driven
ALF
Quote from: 18WilliamsLi on September 22, 2023, 05:24:31 PMMore like a breakdown as 9 brands are crap
Pensnett's Platinums are very good as a whole and are probably in the best condition of all the Platinums NX have, it's a park between those and the Ex Coventry ones.
The native WB ones on the other hand....
Quote from: Jack on September 22, 2023, 05:34:46 PMPensnett's Platinums are very good as a whole and are probably in the best condition of all the Platinums NX have, it's a park between those and the Ex Coventry ones.
The native WB ones on the other hand....
Excuse me pensnet platuims are rattly the wb are lovely they don't rattle as bad as the 9 brands and the 87 is a lot better then the 9
I am getting bored with stupidity again
Quote from: 18WilliamsLi on September 22, 2023, 05:24:31 PMMore like a breakdown as 9 brands are crap
Please explain why you think a broken-down 9-branded bus would be towed all the way to Wolverhampton?
Or are you just trolling everyone now to start another pointless argument?
The only difference is a different order number exc, is a 3 months difference in delivery really an excuse to call the 9 batch mechanically unreliable ? They were built at the same time pretty much...
Can't say the same for the interiors due to catered areas, 9s are very tidy.
Quote from: Tony on September 22, 2023, 07:03:24 PMI am getting bored with stupidity again
I agree, all garages have buses (not just Platinums) that vary, some are better than others and this petty commenting is pointless and has no substance to it. You can go back as far as you want, it the same with Metrobuses that varied, fleetlines, nationals etc.
It was always like that! I remember that one of Moseley Road's 1949 Daimler CVD6s was so bad it was hardly ever out...
Quote from: 18WilliamsLi on September 22, 2023, 06:43:15 PMExcuse me pensnet platuims are rattly the wb seeare lovely they don't rattle as bad as the 9 brands and the 87 is a lot better then the 9
What frigging planet you on WB platinum's on the whole are utter SHITE MAN, When you spend up to 5hrs 30 in a single part you see these things for what they are, i bet you do a journey that's it as passenger. NO PLATINUM comes close to the driving dynamics of 4692 a near 20 year old bus that's how pathetic heaps they are.
SORRY TONY FOR THE RANT, nothing to do with wolves garage
What time does the open day start today doesn't say on website(if it does I'm going blind)
Quote from: Dutsey on September 23, 2023, 08:58:11 AMWhat time does the open day start today doesn't say on website(if it does I'm going blind)
Found it on Facebook x
Quote from: karl724223 on September 22, 2023, 04:36:14 PMProbably vi or mot
Yes, just over for VI defs. WN had the spare labour.
MOT'S have also been swapped, 4753 & 752 back on the road, 4755 & 863 now at WN
Was yesterday any good?
Quote from: BN on September 24, 2023, 09:09:56 AMWas yesterday any good?
I popped over for an hour & got some photos.
Quote from: BN on September 24, 2023, 09:09:56 AMWas yesterday any good?
6937/2102 was booked out to make service. Nobody killed them for the open day ??????
Quote from: karl724223 on September 24, 2023, 02:33:27 PM6937/2102 was booked out to make service. Nobody killed them for the open day ??????
There were a couple of times that someone had turned on the isolators and messing with the controls, but they were escorted off the event. I think 6937 was subbing for 6942 who had a window broken.
Great to finally meet you Karl (and ALF!)
Quote from: Wumpty on September 25, 2023, 09:31:39 AMThere were a couple of times that someone had turned on the isolators and messing with the controls, but they were escorted off the event. I think 6937 was subbing for 6942 who had a window broken.
Great to finally meet you Karl (and ALF!)
Three buses were due from pensnett but only two made it just about to go into service
Good to meet you as well
ALF 😂
Quote from: BN on September 24, 2023, 09:09:56 AMWas yesterday any good?
It was a fantastic day. Very well organised, plenty of buses to see, RS Recovery had two trucks, then as if it had been carefully planned, a third arrived with 5419 being recovered!
NX Comms were doing some filming and commandeered Fleetline 6600 for a road shoot.
Live music and hosting from the Sound Stage and just an all round joy to be part of. Here's to many more to come!
Quote from: Wumpty on September 25, 2023, 09:31:39 AMThere were a couple of times that someone had turned on the isolators and messing with the controls, but they were escorted off the event. I think 6937 was subbing for 6942 who had a window broken.
Great to finally meet you Karl (and ALF!)
Guess who the two were? Clue is one has also been removed from this forum
Quote from: Tony on September 25, 2023, 11:04:48 AMGuess who the two were? Clue is one has also been removed from this forum
ALF
https://we.tl/t-lwklqxyB6W
A few pics from Saturday, available for the next few days.
Admittedly not up to Tony's standards, but gives you an idea.
Quote from: mesub on September 25, 2023, 08:09:19 PMWhat does ALF stand for? 👀
Alien Life Form as in the TV show from the 90's
@mesub I do believe :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: lol
Oh dear - quite insulting then :shocked: Contravention of forum rules?!?!?
:undecided:
16:06 to Spring Hill and 16:54 to i54 journey on the 4 didn't operate
Not sure where to ask this but will ask here as only WN operate the ADL hybrids. So The Hybrids have the same Capacity as The E400 Diesels but one thing that annoys me is upstairs the legroom is really tight I'm 5'10 but quite leggy so I often have to see with my knees turned to the side. I get the back this is due to the Batteries I think, but on the left handside the last pair of seats before the back there is a box closest to the window that isn't on the Diesels what does this Box looks almost like a fan do, I thought it was a heater or cooler but that is above the back seats. The box makes leg room impossible in that seat. I think it is a heater but it doesn't seem to activate whenever the one above the back seats does. Also who activates that heater/air con is it the Driver or is it automatic never noticed it really being on the E400's but the Hybrids it comes on and off.
Sounds like a disco on the top deck of 6770!
Thank god I'm on the lower deck!
Today, when I arrived at Wolverhampton garage to swap electrics over I found a 'spotter' just wandering around all the electric buses which are parked at the far end of the yard. When challenged he confirmed he hadn't even asked for permission.
He was not one of the usual kids, but an older man who thought it was OK to just march into private property and even just ignored me initially when he saw me.
This is not acceptable and people wonder why some NX staff are so anti enthusiast.
Quote from: Tony on January 22, 2024, 06:00:58 PMToday, when I arrived at Wolverhampton garage to swap electrics over I found a 'spotter' just wandering around all the electric buses which are parked at the far end of the yard. When challenged he confirmed he hadn't even asked for permission.
He was not one of the usual kids, but an older man who thought it was OK to just march into private property and even just ignored me initially when he saw me.
This is not acceptable and people wonder why some NX staff are so anti enthusiast.
Did the Police get involved
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on January 22, 2024, 07:21:59 PMDid the Police get involved
No, Trespass is not a criminal offence, it is a civil one
Quote from: Tony on January 22, 2024, 07:45:22 PMNo, Trespass is not a criminal offence, it is a civil one
Oh I thought it was
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on January 22, 2024, 07:54:04 PMOh I thought it was
Trespass, as
@Tony has pointed out, is a civil matter. However this becomes a criminal matter if the trespasser prevents anyone from conducting their normal work, such as being on a bus in the garage and refuses to leave, preventing the driver from taking the bus out - this becomes AGGRAVATED TRESPASS, which is a criminal offence.
Equally, there is a case for attempted burglary, or breaking and entering if the trespasser has got on the electric bus by pushing open the doors without permission, like walking into someone's house without the owners knowledge. The police can, though usually need sufficient evidence to arrest on either of these matters.
Personally, I'd opt for a blunderbuss at 10 paces!
Quote from: Tony on January 22, 2024, 06:00:58 PMToday, when I arrived at Wolverhampton garage to swap electrics over I found a 'spotter' just wandering around all the electric buses which are parked at the far end of the yard. When challenged he confirmed he hadn't even asked for permission.
He was not one of the usual kids, but an older man who thought it was OK to just march into private property and even just ignored me initially when he saw me.
This is not acceptable and people wonder why some NX staff are so anti enthusiast.
Yikes, Tbf atleast the West Midlands isn't like London where you get an army of 12 year olds filming buses at rush hour to post it on their horrible YouTube/Tiktok channels.
Quote from: Tony on January 22, 2024, 06:00:58 PMToday, when I arrived at Wolverhampton garage to swap electrics over I found a 'spotter' just wandering around all the electric buses which are parked at the far end of the yard. When challenged he confirmed he hadn't even asked for permission.
He was not one of the usual kids, but an older man who thought it was OK to just march into private property and even just ignored me initially when he saw me.
This is not acceptable and people wonder why some NX staff are so anti enthusiast.
If you don't mind me asking who are the usual kids???
Quote from: Wba_lad on January 23, 2024, 10:42:21 PMIf you don't mind me asking who are the usual kids???
Pretty obvious
Anyway, nothing more needs to be disclosed
Leave people be there's nothing we can do
Quote from: Wba_lad on January 23, 2024, 10:42:21 PMIf you don't mind me asking who are the usual kids???
Do you really think he is going to provide names ?
You need to think before you post anything ?
Park Lane is not far from Low Hill, which is a notorious area, I gather.
Quote from: Wba_lad on January 23, 2024, 10:42:21 PMIf you don't mind me asking who are the usual kids???
Well one or both were ex members of this forum who are banned for posting absolute rubbish, Tony said at the WN open day they were turning Buses on so got thrown out of the event. That is well known
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on January 24, 2024, 10:47:54 AMWell one or both were ex members of this forum who are banned for posting absolute rubbish, Tony said at the WN open day they were turning Buses on so got thrown out of the event. That is well known
1 of them is back and ironically the 1 that asked the question 🙄
Quote from: cris 99 on January 24, 2024, 10:58:24 AM1 of them is back and ironically the 1 that asked the question 🙄
This topic, doesn't need any further discussion.
4995 back from paint, replaced with 4990.
Quote from: BN on January 27, 2024, 07:14:49 AM4995 back from paint, replaced with 4990.
Refurb on 4986 finally finished as well, I'm taking it to underseal on Monday, should be painted second half of next week ready for MoT prep
I know what underseal is but why does it need doing on a bus this old
Quote from: Mayfield on January 27, 2024, 08:54:38 AMI know what underseal is but why does it need doing on a bus this old
Why do you think?
To stop road salt rotting the chassis same as any other vehicle
Can't seem to get an answer on this forum without a snide comment to go with it, vehicles are under sealed from new and it's lasts the life so why does it need doing again, simple enough question, don't even bother answering it if it can't be done without the aside.
Quote from: Mayfield on January 27, 2024, 01:39:30 PMCan't seem to get an answer on this forum without a snide comment to go with it, vehicles are under sealed from new and it's lasts the life so why does it need doing again, simple enough question, don't even bother answering it if it can't be done without the aside.
It doesn't last a lifetime far from it, all NX buses are undersealed at every refurb for that very reason.
If it lasted a lifetime vehicles of any type would not go have to be scrapped because they were rotting
Quote from: Tony on January 27, 2024, 08:37:17 AMRefurb on 4986 finally finished as well, I'm taking it to underseal on Monday, should be painted second half of next week ready for MoT prep
I take it this is something that cannot be done inhouse or at the paint shop
@Tony? Or is it just easier to get it done elsewhere?
Quote from: Squiz1971 on January 27, 2024, 02:16:23 PMI take it this is something that cannot be done inhouse or at the paint shop @Tony? Or is it just easier to get it done elsewhere?
It could be done in house, the new PB garage has a chassis cleaning facility which could be used, but there's a place in Aldridge that has been doing all NX buses at refurb for many years and continues to do so.
Quote from: Tony on January 27, 2024, 02:50:15 PMIt could be done in house, the new PB garage has a chassis cleaning facility which could be used, but there's a place in Aldridge that has been doing all NX buses at refurb for many years and continues to do so.
Is that roughly every 5 years that buses are undersealed?
would'nt galvanising the chassis from new be far more effective than powder coating and under sealing
Quote from: 2900 on January 28, 2024, 12:57:30 PMwould'nt galvanising the chassis from new be far more effective than powder coating and under sealing
Unfortunately not.
Galvanising provides an average of 5 years "moderate protection". Galv will also suffer from white rust where it is exposed to prolonged moisture and road salt, leaving a white powdery residue on the surface. Undersealing and chassis treatment with further protect and treat the metal work, but nothing will definitively protect steel from the inevitable rot.
Quote from: Wumpty on January 28, 2024, 03:07:34 PMUnfortunately not.
Galvanising provides an average of 5 years "moderate protection". Galv will also suffer from white rust where it is exposed to prolonged moisture and road salt, leaving a white powdery residue on the surface. Undersealing and chassis treatment with further protect and treat the metal work, but nothing will definitively protect steel from the inevitable rot.
No it doesn't, galvanising comes with 20 year guarantee for corrosion protection.
Stainless Steel is another option, although you will get bi-metallic corrosion when dissimilar metals are bolted to a stainless steel chassis without being isolated.
This is why railings at the seaside are either galvanised or stainless steel, because they are in a highly corrosive environment with salt water.
Quote from: winston on January 28, 2024, 04:40:40 PMNo it doesn't, galvanising comes with 20 year guarantee for corrosion protection.
Stainless Steel is another option, although you will get bi-metallic corrosion when dissimilar metals are bolted to a stainless steel chassis without being isolated.
This is why railings at the seaside are either galvanised or stainless steel, because they are in a highly corrosive environment with salt water
@winston the basic DX51D+Z coating is "expected to perform" for 20 years - there is no guarantee on this. The warranty period for this is 5 years where it is expected to provide 99% protection with no visible/structural defect. Generally speaking, the thicker the steel, the heavier the coating, though there are other factors to consider depending upon its forming/structural applications, or if the steel was coated at the time it was produced in coil/bar form, or retrospectively coated after fabrication by a galvanizers.
Railings nearer to the coastline usually have heavier galv coating to provide additional protection from the elements. This again, comes with its own flaws as the heavier the coating and inclement/corrosive environment, the more susceptible to white rust it is.
This was the mainstay of my 15 years in the steel industry and having to deal with claims for underperforming hot dipped galzanize coating. Anything that was mill coated we'd be able to definitively answer; anything hot dipped after fabrication we'd refer to the galvanizers.
Quote from: Wumpty on January 29, 2024, 11:49:18 AM@winston the basic DX51D+Z coating is "expected to perform" for 20 years - there is no guarantee on this. The warranty period for this is 5 years where it is expected to provide 99% protection with no visible/structural defect. Generally speaking, the thicker the steel, the heavier the coating, though there are other factors to consider depending upon its forming/structural applications, or if the steel was coated at the time it was produced in coil/bar form, or retrospectively coated after fabrication by a galvanizers.
Railings nearer to the coastline usually have heavier galv coating to provide additional protection from the elements. This again, comes with its own flaws as the heavier the coating and inclement/corrosive environment, the more susceptible to white rust it is.
This was the mainstay of my 15 years in the steel industry and having to deal with claims for underperforming hot dipped galzanize coating. Anything that was mill coated we'd be able to definitively answer; anything hot dipped after fabrication we'd refer to the galvanizers.
Text extracts taken off the following Galvanizers website:
"Hot dip galvanizingA coating that lasts up to 100 years"https://www.josephash.co.uk/services/galvanizing/
"A hot dip galvanized finish (https://www.josephash.co.uk/services/galvanizing/) gives steel a long life and durability of between 34 and 170 years, depending on the environment. In addition, it creates a maintenance-free finish, which lessens the carbon emissions usually associated with the upkeep of non-galvanized steel"https://www.josephash.co.uk/blogs/excellent-reasons-to-hot-dip-galvanize-steel/
Quote from: winston on January 29, 2024, 01:22:39 PMText extracts taken off the following Galvanizers website:
"Hot dip galvanizing
A coating that lasts up to 100 years"
https://www.josephash.co.uk/services/galvanizing/
"A hot dip galvanized finish (https://www.josephash.co.uk/services/galvanizing/) gives steel a long life and durability of between 34 and 170 years, depending on the environment. In addition, it creates a maintenance-free finish, which lessens the carbon emissions usually associated with the upkeep of non-galvanized steel"
https://www.josephash.co.uk/blogs/excellent-reasons-to-hot-dip-galvanize-steel/
Can you make the text any bigger?
That's a non-mill galv application and again, depends upon the coating weight, environment and application. Very little of their work is used in bus chassis or automotive sectors. They do galv trailers.
Perhaps NX should have had their chassis galvanised by Joseph Ash :wink:
Quote from: Wumpty on January 29, 2024, 02:58:02 PMCan you make the text any bigger?
That's a non-mill galv application and again, depends upon the coating weight, environment and application. Very little of their work is used in bus chassis or automotive sectors. They do galv trailers.
Perhaps NX should have had their chassis galvanised by Joseph Ash :wink:
As I said copied straight off JA website.
I deal with galvanised fabrications both Structural & Decorative using galvanisers such as JA, I never mentioned whether it would be pre-galv at a mill or post galv.
I never suggested JA did bus & coach chassis.
Perhaps you meant to say ADL should have their chassis galvanised by JA, not NX 😉
Back in the day, buses used to have their underside steam cleaned and then sprayed with a silver paint - presumably protective in some way. The Tyburn Road unit was right next to the road with full length glazing so you could see a bus at a time in there being dealt with.
However back then, if you bought a new car you'd be expecting it to rust right through within five years unless it was treated with Waxoil or similar in the steel sections like doors and sub frames. Totally different from modern vehicle construction and protection.
Hi, quick question for Drivers or passengers who use the 10A, how do buses turn arround to come back to Wolverhampton in Partingham, from what I can see on Google earth there is either a small pull in by the shops but looks a little tight for an eclipse or in the mouth of the road near the Pigot arms, bit random but saves a trip to find out, thank you muchly for your replies in advance 😉
Quote from: danny on March 18, 2024, 06:04:37 PMHi, quick question for Drivers or passengers who use the 10A, how do buses turn arround to come back to Wolverhampton in Partingham, from what I can see on Google earth there is either a small pull in by the shops but looks a little tight for an eclipse or in the mouth of the road near the Pigot arms, bit random but saves a trip to find out, thank you muchly for your replies in advance 😉
A look on Bustimes is all you need to do
10A - Wolverhampton - Pattingham – National Express West Midlands – bustimes.org (https://bustimes.org/services/10a-pattingham-perton-wolverhampton#map)
Thank you Tony, a tool I do have never used before but will do in the future
Quote from: danny on March 18, 2024, 06:04:37 PMHi, quick question for Drivers or passengers who use the 10A, how do buses turn arround to come back to Wolverhampton in Partingham, from what I can see on Google earth there is either a small pull in by the shops but looks a little tight for an eclipse or in the mouth of the road near the Pigot arms, bit random but saves a trip to find out, thank you muchly for your replies in advance 😉
A quick look on Google Streetview at the most recent image (March 2023), from the wet tyre tracks I would deduce that's where the buses are turning around. :wink:
The bus turns around in the mouth of the road by the Pigot Arms/Church, sometimes needing to reverse depending on parked cars , it doesn't pull into the shops sliproad like the map on bus times suggests
10A terminates at the bus stop outside the shops, then turns around in the mouth of the road by the pigot arms. It can be done in one if no one parks against the church wall, done it many a time in coaches and the nx b7rles. If they park there, usually need to do a reverse to complete the turn, then Pickup is the bus stop facing out.
10A Uses E200's now so might be easier to do the turn
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on March 20, 2024, 10:29:27 AM10A Uses E200's now so might be easier to do the turn
Depends, if their turning circle is the same as a dart then it would be easier in a volvo
Easier to turn a b7 than a e200 unless it's a swb one
I assume the 79A Metro Replacement is using The 79's buses but they both run every 10 minutes on weekdays so I assume a few 79E's to Wednesbury will be running to put buses in position for the 79
79 & 79a interwork
79 to wb , 79a to parkway and back then 79 back to wn
The 79A has ended now despite this I am seeing extra buses to Wednesbury from 7PM to about 1AM from West Bromwich the last 79 from Wednesbury is at 00:59 terminating into West Brom at 01:11 is this due to Metro Works
QuoteThe 79A has ended now despite this I am seeing extra buses to Wednesbury from 7PM to about 1AM from West Bromwich the last 79 from Wednesbury is at 00:59 terminating into West Brom at 01:11 is this due to Metro Works
The evening works to commence on the metro between black lake and Edgbaston for 8 weeks from 8pm
Quote from: BK63 YWP on April 11, 2024, 12:12:30 PMThe evening works to commence on the metro between black lake and Edgbaston for 8 weeks from 8pm
Ah I see, I didn't see anything on the Metro Twitter about this so thought maybe it was for the rest of this week but rather than running as the 79A it will be become part of the 79 or maybe it was because of Albion being at home so matchday special.
Just noticed 4627 with Hanover flip dot blind displaying 59 Wolverhampton with alternating lower element of via Wednesfield & Heath Town. How long has that been like it as I've never seen it before?