select seem to be running all sorts on their only route 878 wolves to brewood. a leyland tiger lec198x has been seen, but yesterday coastal liners b210ffs was being operated!
been to wolverhampton a few times havn't noticed R133RYL the SLF dart they have as its had the coach & a non low dart on I know they are awaiting somwe low
http://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/8657967047/in/photostream
This been on there a few times this week. It's a Dennis Dart SLF with a Wright Crusader body.
No working destination blinds, and it hasn't yet been repainted or even had some Diamond route branding removed.
After about a year of being sold it's finally left probably along with R530YRP.
the driver said its only on loan - watch this space!
What would be funny is people asking where Redditch, Crabbs Cross and Astwood Bank are.
I'm surprised diamond are loaning out some of it's vehicles but then again some darts have been freed from the arrival of the b7rle's from midland classic.
Quote from: tank90 on April 18, 2013, 12:29:20 AM
What would be funny is people asking where Redditch, Crabbs Cross and Astwood Bank are.
Unless it appeared on a diamond route in Wolverhampton before then those would have been asked
Select have brought some buses from Diamond so I was told
by one of the drivers
Quote from: Solo1 on April 18, 2013, 02:14:04 PM
Select have brought some buses from Diamond so I was told
by one of the drivers
I would think R530/2YRP if i was guessing. Surely they should of removed the fleetnames on the front especially with diamond operating in Wolverhampton as well.
Quote from: Ash on April 18, 2013, 02:23:00 PM
I would think R530/2YRP if i was guessing. Surely they should of removed the fleetnames on the front especially with diamond operating in Wolverhampton as well.
Nearly as bad as another Wolverhampton Company!!
It should hopefully get repainted soon if it is a long term addition. Select is a very good little company I think
at least select buses painted all the buses before they had them in service unlike that firm you said about
& the 2 dimond buses selcet have may be a loan pending the diamond buses painted
only seen r532yrp out
what's the latest with the new buses they are due from Diamond
Can anyone confirm if select have bought these buses from diamond or not?
Really hope they have maybe giving them a few years until I could even contemplate preserving one!
They have bought and painted up T442EBD dont know about anything else. Is it DDA compliant btw?
They got a slf plaxton one too t375wgt i think
Quote from: mranon on June 01, 2013, 10:50:58 PM
They got a slf plaxton one too t375wgt i think
It's T875HGT
http://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/8916686807/
Theyre going lowfloor as well I see. I do wonder what will happen to some of travel express's darts-theyre so old and surely the carlyle ones must be worthy of preservation-shame to see them go for scrap!
as for going low floor, they must have bus trouble as their r133rly hasn't been out for months, driver reckoned t442ebd was vor, and r532yrp engine trouble. see they are using an ex arriva bus l116yvk drn116 (was preserved)
Quote from: Winston on June 01, 2013, 11:21:51 PM
Quote from: mranon on June 01, 2013, 10:50:58 PM
They got a slf plaxton one too t375wgt i think
It's T875HGT
http://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/8916686807/
see link for the latest one select have
Quote from: mranon on June 19, 2013, 09:25:04 PM
as for going low floor, they must have bus trouble as their r133rly hasn't been out for months, driver reckoned t442ebd was vor, and r532yrp engine trouble. see they are using an ex arriva bus l116yvk drn116 (was preserved)
L116YVK is currently on loan to Select and is still owned and preserved byRobert Thompson.
someone said they were due to get somemore busdes x Diamond any more info on this i know they have 3 x diamond at present
Quote from: Solo1 on June 21, 2013, 05:52:06 PM
someone said they were due to get somemore busdes x Diamond any more info on this i know they have 3 x diamond at present
Which 3 diamond buses do they have now? R532YRP/T442EBD and what else?
PD1098350/1 - B P BROWN TRAVEL LTD T/A SELECT BUS SERVICES, 2 NAGINGTON DRIVE, PENKRIDGE, STAFFORD, ST19 5TA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Brewood and Wolverhampton given service number 878 effective from 15-Aug-2013. To amend Timetable.
Is this route subisdied???
Saw a select bus parked in Cannock at 6pm today on stand 10 with 878 on the blind I thought that was wolvo to brewood maybe sizing up Cannock for tender work anybody any thoughts
On another page of the forum it had select r to run 23&67 from
Cannock starting September
Maybe some of the knackered ex Diamond Darts have been bought for spares?
R532 I'm sure I've seen in service re-painted.
To add further confusion this Ex hallmarks Dart:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/16313630@N07/8465588808/
Now re-painted & in service
http://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/9224914687/in/set-72157631456935074/
Quote from: 4006 on July 07, 2013, 02:10:37 AM
Maybe some of the knackered ex Diamond Darts have been bought for spares?
R532 I'm sure I've seen in service re-painted.
To add further confusion this Ex hallmarks Dart:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/16313630@N07/8465588808/
Now re-painted & in service
http://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/9224914687/in/set-72157631456935074/
the ex diamond darts are certainly not knackered but does anyone actually know what buses they own as some of the diamond ones are leased
thats why they keep going wrong! why use a preserved bus if these ex diamond ones are mint? think select now own r133rly, t442ebd, t375hgt, and now v509nof. the driver told my mate the step entranced darts have all been sold as was their coach dkz7319. tiger lec198x and r133rly haven't been seen out for months. apparantly r532 yrp was just a loan as the ex diamond darts took longer than expected to arrive
Quote from: mranon on July 07, 2013, 11:08:27 AM
thats why they keep going wrong! why use a preserved bus if these ex diamond ones are mint? think select now own r133rly, t442ebd, t375hgt, and now v509nof. the driver told my mate the step entranced darts have all been sold as was their coach dkz7319. tiger lec198x and r133rly haven't been seen out for months. apparantly r532 yrp was just a loan as the ex diamond darts took longer than expected to arrive
If those Diamond Darts were some of the ones parked in the overflow bus park opposite Tividale garage, they may have been delayed due the amount of parts that needed to put back on them
Good picture of T442EBD on the main site. Just wondering other than this and the NOF dart do select own any other ex diamond darts. Are they both on a lease to buy arrangement and if they are bought, how many years do we think they will be kept for roughly? Tbh its a bus worth preserving with its petes/diamond history and also unusual bus with its good looking crusader bodywork
Think they have ex diamond t375 hgt too although since nof arrived its not been on 878 much
Quote from: mranon on August 22, 2013, 07:07:45 AM
Think they have ex diamond t375 hgt too although since nof arrived its not been on 878 much
Cheers MrAnon-this must be a standard length dart slf/pointer musnt it? Presumably, some of their step entrance buses will be withdrawn as a result. Does their 878 get busy though? Never seen it so just interested
im not sure, it looked a little longer but ive only seen it twice in passing. From what a driver told me, all of their step entrance ones have left the fleet. Just leaving the coach, and the preserved dart on loan.
Quote from: mranon on August 22, 2013, 12:13:11 PM
im not sure, it looked a little longer but ive only seen it twice in passing. From what a driver told me, all of their step entrance ones have left the fleet. Just leaving the coach, and the preserved dart on loan.
Right thanks :) I need to go and try out their route tbh as they look an interesting company
Quote from: mranon on August 22, 2013, 07:07:45 AM
Think they have ex diamond t375 hgt too although since nof arrived its not been on 878 much
Here she is:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/9574071000/in/photostream/
ive only ever seen;
T442 EBD on the 878 ?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/9496473888/in/set-72157635054934412
Wonder what theyll be using on the 23 & 67 from Monday
Quote from: bob on August 29, 2013, 09:31:13 PM
Wonder what theyll be using on the 23 & 67 from Monday
\
These routes new to Select or Ex Routes
Ex arriva routes
the 23 ? were does that go
and the 67 is that the route which goes so far as the 67 then changes number for the rest of he journey or is that the 63 ?
Both are cannock routes. 67 to wolvo and 23 to wimblebury
Quote from: Nathan4775 on August 29, 2013, 10:32:23 PM
the 23 ? were does that go
and the 67 is that the route which goes so far as the 67 then changes number for the rest of he journey or is that the 63 ?
Thats the 63 Nathan. Changes to a 64 near Penn/Bradmore. 67 operates Wolverhampton-Cannock.
Cannock 67 is a bit of a joke of a service tbf, used to be numbered 10 yrs ago when green bus co ran on it and was a busy all day route bout 3 trips a day now mon to fri only
I thought the only route from CANNOCK - WOLVERHAMPTON was the 70?, shows how much attention I pay to bus stops :)
Quote from: Nathan4775 on August 30, 2013, 08:24:16 PM
I thought the only route from CANNOCK - WOLVERHAMPTON was the 70?, shows how much attention I pay to bus stops :)
And the 68 of course Nathan! ;)
Lol there use to be a 69 as well
select now have x184 bnh an mpd fleet no.5. wonder if this is for the 67
The revised timetable on service 23 seems intresting no early morning journeys and the service finshes at 450pm not good for workers
What are the times for the 2 new services
23 & 67 by select as nothing on travel line
Quote from: Solo1 on September 01, 2013, 02:11:38 PM
What are the times for the 2 new services
23 & 67 by select as nothing on travel line
Solo1 I found the 23 on the NetworkWM webpage if this is the right one;
http://jp.networkwestmidlands.com/centro/XSLT_SELTT_REQUEST?sessionID=EFA2_3941383489&requestID=1&language=en&anySigWhenPerfectNoOtherMatches=1&locationServerActive=1&stateless=1&locationInfoActive=1&coordListOutputFormat=string&coordOutputFormatTail=0&privateTransport=1&privateTransport=2&hideBannerInfo=1&convertStopsPTKernel2LocationServer=1&convertAddressesITKernel2LocationServer=1&convertCoord2LocationServer=1&convertCrossingsITKernel2LocationServer=1&convertPOIsITKernel2LocationServer=1&w_regPrefAl=6&mergeDir=1&deleteAllLines=1&selTTODVActice=1&selTTLineByNameActice=1&selTTAllOperators=1&mergeOpName=1&useAllStops=1&outputFormat=0&excludedMeans=checkbox&exclMOT_0=1&exclMOT_4=1&lineName=23&type_seltt=any&typeInfo_seltt=invalid&useHouseNumberList_seltt=1&nameState_seltt=empty&nameInfo_seltt=invalid&itdLPxx_nameText_seltt=City%2C+Town%2C+Postcode%2C+Address%2C+Station%2C+Airport+or+Place+of+Interest&nameDefaultText_seltt=City%2C+Town%2C+Postcode%2C+Address%2C+Station%2C+Airport+or+Place+of+Interest&name_seltt=City%2C+Town%2C+Postcode%2C+Address%2C+Station%2C+Airport+or+Place+of+Interest&anyObjFilter_seltt=0&opCode=SBS%3Atwm
How are people expected to know what the revised timetable for both the 23/A and 67 consist of when they're not even on the staffs cc website and select havent got one! Hope it isnt the shape of things to come!
Cannot find a timetable for the 67 anywhere!!!!!!
Have you e mailed Staffordshire county council ?
Which buses from the select fleet are been used on the Cannock
services are they the same one daily
Bus no 5 on the 23 as that needs a small dart to get round the streets
so what bus are they using on the 67 as i think midland /ariva also used a small dart /solo on 67 service
saw bus no.3 t875hgt on 67's yesterday. interestingly, t151 ogc was on 878 today, recently reported belonging to coastal liner?
Coastal liner borrow buses from Select so could be a loan for today
Quote from: mranon on September 04, 2013, 05:46:01 PM
saw bus no.3 t875hgt on 67's yesterday. interestingly, t151 ogc was on 878 today, recently reported belonging to coastal liner?
Looking at the bus you wouldn't know it was there bus, no logos or nothing
Quote from: Solo1 on September 04, 2013, 05:43:44 PM
so what bus are they using on the 67 as i think midland /ariva also used a small dart /solo on 67 service
67 gos past mine today it wasa larger dart with bonded glazing
Quote from: bob on September 04, 2013, 06:01:28 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on September 04, 2013, 05:43:44 PM
so what bus are they using on the 67 as i think midland /ariva also used a small dart /solo on 67 service
67 gos past mine today it wasa larger dart with bonded glazing
More than likely 'V509 NOF'.
Which bus has fleetnumber mentioned earlier, as Tonys fleetlist doesn't have fleetnumbers on it
the fleet has only recently gained numbers. they also have gone all dda low floor too. from what ive observed,
1 is unknown as yet
2 t442 ebd (guess)
3 t875 hgt
4 v509 nof
5 x184 bnh
r133 rly hasnt been seen out for a while, so dont know if this is still owned.
Quote from: mranon on September 04, 2013, 06:57:09 PM
the fleet has only recently gained numbers. they also have gone all dda low floor too. from what ive observed,
1 is unknown as yet
2 t442 ebd (guess)
3 t875 hgt
4 v509 nof
5 x184 bnh
r133 rly hasnt been seen out for a while, so dont know if this is still owned.
I forgot to put the fleetnumber in my last post! I was asking for the bus that has fleetnumber 5 :P
I thought it was a new thing at Select, thanks for those :D
Do the 23/67 load on Stafford Street in WN or load in the bus station ?
23 doesnt go to wolverhampton and 67 used to load by the art gallery and beatties
Quote from: bob on September 04, 2013, 08:38:13 PM
23 doesnt go to wolverhampton and 67 used to load by the art gallery and beatties
Stop in Broad street says it stops there aswell
Quote from: bob on September 04, 2013, 08:38:13 PM
67 used to load by the art gallery
Still does, got a picture of select 3 outside there
Has anybody found a timetable for the 67 yet
Quote from: Ck on September 05, 2013, 04:36:08 PM
Has anybody found a timetable for the 67 yet
Still nothing up on the NetworkWM site
Does anyone know if the 67 now has a saturday timetable? Sure I just saw a dart go past mine!
Yes it does, similar times to M-F timetable.
Is the sat timetable commercial? Both times I saw it it was empty. But if people dont know it exists they wont catch it. No timetables on bus stops even in wolves. Good to have a saturday service again though. Its a pretty irregular timetable though if its similar to the arriva one
L116YVK was on the 878 yesterday
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomsbusphotos/9704152842/
Quote from: the #trainbasher on September 08, 2013, 07:40:31 PM
L116YVK was on the 878 yesterday
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomsbusphotos/9704152842/
A regular on the 878 from my observation
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 08, 2013, 07:55:44 PM
Quote from: the #trainbasher on September 08, 2013, 07:40:31 PM
L116YVK was on the 878 yesterday
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomsbusphotos/9704152842/
A regular on the 878 from my observation
Didnt see it when I was in WN 3/4 days ago ? unless its just came to Select
Seen it a fair few times during the Summer Holiday.
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 08, 2013, 08:05:48 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 08, 2013, 07:55:44 PM
Quote from: the #trainbasher on September 08, 2013, 07:40:31 PM
L116YVK was on the 878 yesterday
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomsbusphotos/9704152842/
A regular on the 878 from my observation
Didnt see it when I was in WN 3/4 days ago ? unless its just came to Select
It's been on hire for the last few months because they sold all the old buses before the New ones had arrived.
Why are they having to use the red bus on
loan when they have a fleet of 5 if they still have R133 with 2 spare
Unless they have broke down .suely it would
be best to get another SLF dart as spare
from what i was told by the young driver, r133 has been withdrawn. not dda? since they took the 23 and 67 on they need at least 3 buses. maybe they have teething troubles to sort. after all, their step entrance darts were smart enough, and seemed in good order mechanically too.
So if R133 is withdrawn would of thought they should get some more SLF darts
surely 1 spare plus 1 available to loan if required would normally be enough to cover 3 buses needed? like i said they may having just bought them all be having teething issues once out.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 08, 2013, 07:55:44 PM
Quote from: the #trainbasher on September 08, 2013, 07:40:31 PM
L116YVK was on the 878 yesterday
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomsbusphotos/9704152842/
A regular on the 878 from my observation
Still on the 878 as of yesterday. Is it an on loan preserved bus?
Quote from: John on September 11, 2013, 11:26:56 AM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 08, 2013, 07:55:44 PM
Quote from: the #trainbasher on September 08, 2013, 07:40:31 PM
L116YVK was on the 878 yesterday
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomsbusphotos/9704152842/
A regular on the 878 from my observation
Still on the 878 as of yesterday. Is it an on loan preserved bus?
IN Wolverhampton AGAIN tomorrow ::) hopefully I will see it, and refuse to take another trip to WN for a few weeks now ;D
I speak to the owner of Select quite a lot, l116 is on hire to them, the T reg dart used on 67 is the "spare" but T442END has no engine and awaiting a new 1, they currenty are looking into purchasing an eastlancs bodied dart
Ask him where his bloody timetables are
As a guess 23 small dart x reg. 67 v209 878
T875 spare t442
No no no...... X184bnh 23, T442EBD should be 67 but has no engine so the T reg (spare bus) is been used and the spd is 878, r133rly is been broken at the depot (picture on my facebook)
67 timetable has finally found its way on to traveline/NWM
here is bus 5 with select http://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/9859439813/
The council sort out the time tables.
There were photocopied timetables for the 67 in the enquiry office at Wolverhampton yesterday - unfortunately the buffoons had printed them with the top half of the return service on one page and the bottom on the other!
Yes select has the 4 also on loan is the red single which is on
878 service
Quote from: ARRIVA / S I on October 19, 2013, 06:40:26 PM
Does anyone have any idea if Select are going to replace scrapped R133 RLY if so what are they going to replace it with ?
It will need to be replaced, but they are in no hurry to buy another bus.
The SPD has been on 23's due the MPD being off the road, they also have a borrowed a dart in hire from Coastal Liner due to bus 3 being off the road
They oughta put that presered dart on the 67 would be great to see a stepper in cannock again
thats good, surely they need more buses t442ebd not seen for weeks, 3 vor, and r133rly withdrawn. they would be well and truly stuffed without the preserved dart.
Yes that is the hired bus from coastal liner covering for bus 3, bus 4 the spd is now back on 878 and the MPD back on 23's and L116YVK cannot do 67's as it has to be Low Floor
Really? I never knew that
X184BNH is off the road again and is unlikely to see service again hance why V509NOF is back on 23's
selrct are not having much luck X184 or the other low floor they had to scrap woner what they will be buying next to replace them
looks promising doesn't it when they have 4 buses which require 3, and they only have one of their own roadworthy! think they need to source buses from somewhere decent!!!!!! shame real shame. come on select!
select should try staffford bus centre as it only up the road from them for some more buses
Select do ok :s they don't break down as often as NatEx or Arriva do they? And they don't take as long as them either to bring a spare bus out
Hi I am a member of staff from Select Bus Services, and it appears that people have a lot of questions so I will try to answer them within reason. Also thank you arrivaaston.
Quote from: arrivaaston on November 22, 2013, 10:04:32 AM
Select do ok :s they don't break down as often as NatEx or Arriva do they? And they don't take as long as them either to bring a spare bus out
Lol nobody breaks down as much as arriva :-0 judgin by this week
T875 HGT 3 should be out Monday, X184BNH 5 is back out tomorrow, T442 EBD should be complete for the end of next week after needing an engine and a Y REG Mpd will be an new addition from next week after paint, and V509NOF should be back on 878 Monday
Quote from: arrivaaston on November 21, 2013, 06:09:45 PM
X184BNH is off the road again and is unlikely to see service again
Well not until tomorrow! please do not post guesswork
How is it guess work? If SBS says he's a member of staff at select he's got more of an idea than any enthusiast as to what is happening with the buses.......?
Their was uncertainty actually with X184 due to it having a problem which the mechanics could not find easily, but it was rectified by myself today so the bus will see service again
sbs, how long does it take to replace an engine? select looked really promising - all buses in livery, good drivers etc. then they using old coach, coastal liners vehicles etc, its like who's who in wolves with select/coastal liner/travel express!!!!
But at least select are making sure they run their services not simply missing duties out because they're short of buses.
Mranon and engine change basically would take 2 days, or how long we want it to be. Surely you being enthusiast you should have like the fact we where operating LEC198X in service as I certainly enjoy driving it. The reason for using other buses was down the update from step entrance to low floor and other buses where late on arrival. Also bear in mind that we do have to maintain the fleet and by the sounds of this you are suggesting operators should use defective vechicles which is wrong. Steve yes you are correct we have a duty to operate all our local services and this is something we make sure we do correctly.
Its Y*** *** for a guess lol
Quote from: ARRIVA / S I on November 23, 2013, 04:10:46 PM
The Y reg Select are having is that replacement for R133 RLY got reg please
Rotala give Y705TGH as going on 'Rent to buy' to Select Bus Services. This is on the Rotala fleetnews page on the front page of the main site. This vehicle is still parked at Long Acre Today in Diamond blue livery
R133 RLY was taken off the road in March and is in the process of being broken, its final destination is Watson scrap dealer at Stafford, Y705 TGH is an addition which will become number 6, but their are also more additions to come.
sbs, you was using lec198x yes, but you come out with these low floors, all smart etc, excellent impression. once you see that, then all of a sudden you got the red arriva bus, and coastal liners motors out. compared to yours, it ruins a smart good impression. im not saying for one minute that you should use a defective bus, but t442 has been off for a while now. surely it would be better to get that done and out re-couping its costs, plus keeping your identity consistent. we all know a wolves operator who likes to play guess the operator (acl, munros, go ahead, handyrider etc) lol.
however, you haven't seemed to have much luck with these low floors so far. your original buses were mint, excellent to ride on, and to have them all looking similar to start was good. whats happening with lec198x these days? will it see the road again?
So that's why on Rotala changes 20905 is listed as being "On Hire To Select Bus Services"
here is the said bus that will soon be hitting the streets with select bus http://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/11038315973/
Come on Mr Brown and pull your finger out get your buses back out and sack the scrap off ie arriva fart and coastal scrap i mean liner.
Which T Reg as there's 2?? Bus 2 and Bus 3 are both T Reg
Nothing wrong with select using a few extra buses its a small business and is keeping the service running. The London dart is smart looking for its age as is only in London livery due to it being a borrowed preserved vehicle. Passengers will still use them regardless.
Agreed!! Its not like select have Go North East, Hansons, rossendale buses running in them liveries with select slapped on the front
Arrvia Si I tried to message u but could t should b next week about Friday
saw diamond s404jua on 878 in diamond white/red livery, but select sticker on front. is this a recent acquisition or a loan
Aquired
Where is Y705 ??? as is yet to entre service
with select on67 service
Y705 has been on the service 67 for the past two weeks as number 6
Quote from: SBS on January 24, 2014, 09:09:24 PM
Y705 has been on the service 67 for the past two weeks as number 6
Just photographed it on the 67
Quote from: mranon on January 23, 2014, 08:10:37 PM
saw diamond s404jua on 878 in diamond white/red livery, but select sticker on front. is this a recent acquisition or a loan
http://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/12134256556/in/photostream/
I have a photo of number 7 aswell
Select latest bus this had been out for 2 weeks http://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/12140176905/ & diamond bus the latest one to join the fleet http://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/12140558354/
Just to rectify the front page of this site..... Bus 7 S404JUA is NOT on "Long Term Hire" to Select Bus Services
Quote from: arrivaaston on February 05, 2014, 05:56:59 PM
Just to rectify the front page of this site..... Bus 7 S404JUA is NOT on "Long Term Hire" to Select Bus Services
Why not?
Why what?
Quote from: arrivaaston on February 05, 2014, 06:18:12 PM
Why what?
Why is it not on long term hire when Rotala and Tony think it is? Why do you know different??!!
X184BNH...... Is that on "Long Term Loan"?
Quote from: arrivaaston on February 05, 2014, 05:56:59 PM
Just to rectify the front page of this site..... Bus 7 S404JUA is NOT on "Long Term Hire" to Select Bus Services
It is until it is paid for! It is on a 'Rent to buy' deal from Rotala which means Select pay for it in instalments, when they have paid the agreed price it belongs to them. Until then it is 'rented' from Rotala and Select still have the option not to take it, and Rotala can take it back if Select don't keep to the agreement.
Bloody ell pipe down love! Don't be so melodramatic we don't all have time to go chasing up the spot on uptodate fleetlists...... Just take a seat and have a bloody drink or summert!! Deep breaths..... Deep breaths......
hope it lasts longer than previous purchases off rotala!!!
Why wouldn't it last longer?
4 V509NOF, 5 X184BNH, 6 Y705TGH and 7 S404JUA are good buses IMO, not looking for an argument before people jump down my throat lol
the first ones t442 ebd, and t875 hgt didnt !!!!!!
V509 broken down in Heath Hayes on route 23 oops
Select Bus 5 X184BNH has been used on other services
maybe its vor for maintenance?
Its been on other duties
not seen it out, 67 has been bus 6, 23 bus 4, and 878 bus 7 or l116
Well I can confirm that bus 5 X184BNH is today on 23
t442ebd now back in service on 878. not seen s404jua for a while or t875hgt
Select run 3 routes, 23/67/878, Service 23 1 bus 5 X184BNH, Service 67 1 bus 6 Y705TGH and service 878 1 bus 2 T442EBD so there for bus 3 T875HGT and bus 7 S404JUA are not really needed
From Staffordshire CC website
;
From 28th April 2014
• Services 88/88A (Arriva, Stafford - Perton) and 482 (Arriva, Stafford - Church
Eaton) will be cancelled and incorporated into service 877/878, to be operated
by Select Bus.
Well done to select wondered how long before they were
In Stafford & how many more buses will they need
Well.......... That is the question.......
Hows it gonna work? Will it go wolves perton Brewood stafford?
Does anybody know when there new timetables for the 877/878 route will be announced ?
they are on the Staffordshire website at
;
http://www.staffordshire.gov.uk/transport/publictransport/buses/Forthcomingbusservice.aspx
wonder what extra buses they have got
I see there changing afternoon journeys on the 23 and also I wonder what extra buses and how they have recruited extra drivers
A D&G registration for the 877 has appeared today, seemingly in the NWTA - the timetable on Staffordshires website doesn't help
A white 56 plate bus running on service 23 today so I take it that's there extra bus
Quote from: mikestone on April 17, 2014, 09:21:09 PM
A D&G registration for the 877 has appeared today, seemingly in the NWTA - the timetable on Staffordshires website doesn't help
here is the reg from vosa 6. PC1090231/70 - ROLLING SOLUTIONS LTD T/A D & G BUS, THE WELLINGTON, 78 HIGH STREET, UTTOXETER, ST14 7JD
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Gaol Square, North Walls, Stafford
Finish Point: Lichfield Street, Wolverhampton
Via: Church Eaton, Penkridge
Service Number: 877
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 28-APR-2014
Other Details: Monday to Saturday
The "White 56 plate" enviro200 was only on 23 for 3.30pm till end, rest of the day its been 5 X184BNH
Wonder if had a problem & was replaced by the envrio
doesnt the 23 have a driver swap around that time? if so i wonder if select are testing the enviro out in service - good opportunity to spot any gremlins etc.
SBS 2 T442EBD today on 23 :-)
And here is the Enviro 200
http://wmbusphotos.com/Select/SN56AYB.html
Quote from: Tony on April 19, 2014, 06:30:38 PM
And here is the Enviro 200
http://wmbusphotos.com/Select/SN56AYB.html
That was the one for sale at Ensign Bus that Simon said the asking price was too much wasn't it?
Quote from: Winston on April 19, 2014, 06:43:55 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 19, 2014, 06:30:38 PM
And here is the Enviro 200
http://wmbusphotos.com/Select/SN56AYB.html
That was the one for sale at Ensign Bus that Simon said the asking price was too much wasn't it?
It is ex Premiere, Nottingham, and I had it with Ensign, so probably!
What's the cost of the bus gotta to do with anything? "/
Quote from: arrivaaston on April 19, 2014, 07:08:19 PM
What's the cost of the bus gotta to do with anything? "/
Quite a bit I'd say!
We seem to have wires crossed, I was reffering to the price of the bus, what has that got to do with anybody??
Quote from: arrivaaston on April 20, 2014, 04:32:07 PM
We seem to have wires crossed, I was reffering to the price of the bus, what has that got to do with anybody??
We don't, I knew exactly what you were referring too.
Regarding the price of the bus, I was referring to something Simon Dunn commented about said bus & it was directed to Tony!
looking forward to seeing this in their livery this will show up a certain operator in Wolverhampton
who?
Allover white Enviro 200 WA09FHK was noted on the 878 outside Stafford station earlier on today.
Quote from: Cheese on April 29, 2014, 05:02:30 PM
Allover white Enviro 200 WA09FHK was noted on the 878 outside Stafford station earlier on today.
Select are buying some really good quality vehicles.Ex Webberbus for the record.Hope it is in as good a condition as diamond 30929 as that was and is as good as new and is also ex Webberbus.
Both E200s are on Rolling Solutions (D&G) discs.
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This would appear to be a very dubious arrangement. Either
a) RS are lending discs to Select - definitely illegal (the fact that SN was a select bus last week could support that accusation)
b) both operators have registered the whole service and are failing to operate certain journeys
c) it is a joint service which as I understand it requires OfT agreement (which of course they may have)
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It will be interesting to see if the RS reg is in Fridays N&P, as I only found it when checking registrations in NWTA, despite it being entirely in the WMTA'.
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I'm sure D&G and Select are doing nothing "illegal" as you put it but more to the point if your a bus enthusiast you should be interested in the buses Select are operating so your either A bus enthusiast, the law or just nosey and want to find out things that obviously doesn't concern you or any enthusiast.....
Unless you're the owner of Select (which I suspect you aren't!) Who are you to tell others what they can/can't discuss? Winston
Quote from: arrivaaston on April 30, 2014, 12:17:30 PM
I'm sure D&G and Select are doing nothing "illegal" as you put it but more to the point if your a bus enthusiast you should be interested in the buses Select are operating so your either A bus enthusiast, the law or just nosey and want to find out things that obviously doesn't concern you or any enthusiast.....
Unless you're the owner of Select (which I suspect you aren't!) Who are you to tell others what they can/can't discuss? Winston
As an enthusiast I am interested in who is operating vehicles. If a vehicle is operating on a service registered by one operator, but carrying a disc for another, that is a valid subject to discuss to work out who is operating the vehicle. As Mike said it could be a legal arrangement
Wich is fair enough because obviously enthusiasts like to know who the bus belongs to, Winston I never once mentioned I am the "owner of select" but I'm sure the comment about it being illegal as mentioned in a previous comment can come accross as slanderous wich I'm sure you agree.... I think its great that Select have the new services....
Would be good to see select do some commercial stuff as well as tendered. Competition for arriva's monopoly lol
The 877/8 are commercial.
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I was merely commenting that it is illegal to loan discs.
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The use of anonymous white vehicles and the lack of timetables is not a very professional way of operating, not something normally associated with D&G, who have produced an excellent leaflet for the 841.
Quote from: mikestone on April 30, 2014, 02:32:22 PM
The 877/8 are commercial.
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I was merely commenting that it is illegal to loan discs.
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The use of anonymous white vehicles and the lack of timetables is not a very professional way of operating, not something normally associated with D&G, who have produced an excellent leaflet for the 841.
Are they??? I dont think the 88/482 they replaced were? As arriva lost the tenders for them
My understanding is that Select told Staffordshire they could operate them commercially and the tender was cancelled - I cannot imagine that the council would have specified such a peculiar timetable.
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Can you obtain extra discs by just turning up with the cash, so to speak?
Quote from: mikestone on April 30, 2014, 07:06:42 PM
My understanding is that Select told Staffordshire they could operate them commercially and the tender was cancelled - I cannot imagine that the council would have specified such a peculiar timetable.
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Can you obtain extra discs by just turning up with the cash, so to speak?
You have to apply, and vosa consider your financial standing, maintenance capacity and other odd things before granting you extra discs, once you have been granted authority to run extra buses you turn up with cash and can take them away!
Anonymous white buses??
Neither E200 had any legal lettering - strangely a third E200 was in D&Gs Crewe yard last night and that did have legals!
SN56AYB now has Rolling Solutions paper legals - I never noticed which disc, RS have an authorisation for 25 vehicles in today's WMTA N&P, based at Uttoxeter.
Ensign list both E200s as sold to South Lancs Travel
Quote from: mikestone on May 02, 2014, 08:24:30 PM
Ensign list both E200s as sold to South Lancs Travel
Who are in the same ownership as Rolling Solutions
Hopefully theyll do better than arriva on the 88 section. The b6s and darts were constantly breaking down on it. It was on the 88 last year that I had that v-kda dart with the panel literally hanging off it in front of me!
Quote from: Tony on May 02, 2014, 08:26:03 PM
Quote from: mikestone on May 02, 2014, 08:24:30 PM
Ensign list both E200s as sold to South Lancs Travel
Who are in the same ownership as Rolling Solutions
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I was aware of that - I was intending to indicate that SN56AYB was in the ownership of one of the Reeves/Peddle companies rather than Select, as had previously been assumed and shown in your fleetlist.
WA09FHL is also separately in Ensign's list as sold to D&G - it was at Crewe today - perhaps the two currently working the 877/8 are intended for SLT when Select have the appropriate number of discs?
Quote from: mikestone on May 02, 2014, 11:07:17 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 02, 2014, 08:26:03 PM
Quote from: mikestone on May 02, 2014, 08:24:30 PM
Ensign list both E200s as sold to South Lancs Travel
Who are in the same ownership as Rolling Solutions
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I was aware of that - I was intending to indicate that SN56AYB was in the ownership of one of the Reeves/Peddle companies rather than Select as had previously been assumed and shown in your fleetlist.
WA09FHL is also on separately on ensign's list as sold to D&G, which I haven't seen in Stafford or Crewe - possibly the two currently working the 877/8 are intended for SLT when Select have the appropriate number of discs?
Do you have a link to ensignbus' sales log for this month. Think Winston started a thread for the one last month as it'd be interesting to see what has been sold/acquired. Thanks Mike!
I haven't seen one myself but apparently the two D&G E200s are now displaying "on hire to BP Brown Travel" notices.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/14021154287/ the other envrio select have
Just found this on vosa PD1128125/1 - ROLLING SOLUTIONS LTD T/A D & G BUS, THE WELLINGTON, 78 HIGH STREET, UTTOXETER, ST14 7JD
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Gaol Square, North Walls, Stafford
Finish Point: Lichfield Street, Wolverhampton
Via: Church Eaton, Penkridge
Service Number: 877
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 11-JUL-2014
Other Details: Monday to Saturday
Already registered on the PC licence.
no.2 on the 877/8 today - parked up unattended with engine running at Pitcher Bank at lunch time - I don't drive, but I thought that was illegal?
Funny that is as I was sat on it so thanks
was u asleep sbs?
Bit of a random assumption lol
What's going on with route 23 a blue diamond bus on there is this a loan or a new purchase
It does look a bit daft a "diamond at the heart of Birmingham" bus operating cannocks possibly most little used service lol
I'd of thought the "This Bus Is On Hire To Select Bus Services" was the clue.... And ok maybe does look daft but its better than not running the service at all.....
Quote from: arrivaaston on June 18, 2014, 10:50:30 PM
I'd of thought the "This Bus Is On Hire To Select Bus Services" was the clue.... And ok maybe does look daft but its better than not running the service at all.....
Y3NBB is now in Select livery at Long Acre, so will presumably be swopping places with Y274 soon
Quote from: arrivaaston on June 18, 2014, 10:50:30 PM
I'd of thought the "This Bus Is On Hire To Select Bus Services" was the clue.... And ok maybe does look daft but its better than not running the service at all.....
Lol I suppose so. Looks like another darts comin in its place then :-/
Y3NBB is the new addition and I think when it arrives 20274 will return to Diamond
Y705 TGH is on the 878 today. Don't see this on the 878 very often. Seen about 16:55 heading down Stafford Rd heading towards Wolverhampton City Centre
Quote from: Nathan on June 19, 2014, 06:12:47 PM
Y705 TGH is on the 878 today. Don't see this on the 878 very often. Seen about 16:55 heading down Stafford Rd heading towards Wolverhampton City Centre
normally on 67 service
Y705TGH has been on 878 for about 3 weeks now
Quote from: arrivaaston on June 19, 2014, 11:49:21 AM
Y3NBB is the new addition and I think when it arrives 20274 will return to Diamond
when will Y3 be in service & on which service wuill it be running on
Not actualy sure when Y3NBB will enter service and possibly 877/878 route
20274 still at Select noted on the chase this evening.
y3nbb now out on 878 today in select colours but name yet to be added. looks smart though. pity they cant get the 2 enviros painted
Quote from: mranon on June 30, 2014, 04:44:26 PM
y3nbb now out on 878 today in select colours but name yet to be added. looks smart though. pity they cant get the 2 enviros painted
There are not Select buses, they owned by Rolling Solutions t/a as D&G
They are going to be painted up.....
Here is Y3NBB on 877/8 service in Wolverhampton https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/14385603440/
Interesting its gone back to roller blinds!
Nice bus Y3NBB is and I think the roller blinds suit it well
D&G have now applied to add Select's depot as an OC for two vehicles.
Quote from: mikestone on July 16, 2014, 08:06:42 PM
D&G have now applied to add Select's depot as an OC for two vehicles.
Could that be the two Enviros on the 877 which is being transferred to the D&G license?
this is on vosa today
7. PD1098350/1 - B P BROWN TRAVEL LTD T/A SELECT BUS SERVICES, 2 NAGINGTON DRIVE, PENKRIDGE, STAFFORD, ST19 5TA
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Brewood and Wolverhampton given service number 878 effective from 31-Aug-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.
8. PD1128125/1 - ROLLING SOLUTIONS LTD T/A D & G BUS, THE WELLINGTON, 78 HIGH STREET, UTTOXETER, ST14 7JD
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Gaol Square, North Walls, Stafford and Lichfield Street, Wolverhampton given service number 877/878 effective from 31-Aug-2014. To amend Timetable.
Leyland Olympian j722 gap has been acquired for a school service, couple of mentions of it on service 23 on yahoo
Quote from: Ashley on August 19, 2014, 09:45:02 PM
Leyland Olympian j722 gap has been acquired for a school service, couple of mentions of it on service 23 on yahoo
I have already put a photo of it on the main site. They have had it for a couple of weeks
Quote from: Tony on August 19, 2014, 09:51:29 PM
Quote from: Ashley on August 19, 2014, 09:45:02 PM
Leyland Olympian j722 gap has been acquired for a school service, couple of mentions of it on service 23 on yahoo
I have already put a photo of it on the main site. They have had it for a couple of weeks
Just wasted an hour emptying my yahoo inbox, I thought it hadn't been mentioned yet
Quote from: Ashley on August 19, 2014, 09:55:27 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 19, 2014, 09:51:29 PM
Quote from: Ashley on August 19, 2014, 09:45:02 PM
Leyland Olympian j722 gap has been acquired for a school service, couple of mentions of it on service 23 on yahoo
I have already put a photo of it on the main site. They have had it for a couple of weeks
Just wasted an hour emptying my yahoo inbox, I thought it hadn't been mentioned yet
No, you are the first to mention it on the forum, which surprised me, as Jamie normally mentions things on the 23. I have seen it three times since it arrived, but it kept eluding my camera until Saturday
Quote from: Tony on August 19, 2014, 09:57:21 PM
Quote from: Ashley on August 19, 2014, 09:55:27 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 19, 2014, 09:51:29 PM
Quote from: Ashley on August 19, 2014, 09:45:02 PM
Leyland Olympian j722 gap has been acquired for a school service, couple of mentions of it on service 23 on yahoo
I have already put a photo of it on the main site. They have had it for a couple of weeks
Just wasted an hour emptying my yahoo inbox, I thought it hadn't been mentioned yet
No, you are the first to mention it on the forum, which surprised me, as Jamie normally mentions things on the 23. I have seen it three times since it arrived, but it kept eluding my camera until Saturday
Just seen your picture. One of the messages I did read said that this is off for repaint in the next few days. As long as it's out again tomorrow then that will be the highlight of my week off
J722gap on 23's today if anybody is out and about
Presumably it will be out daily on service in school terms - I assume he still only has three discs?
Its for a school contract but will be a spare for other services. Its going for repaint but nobody knows what day this week but I only became aware of the purchase last night
Unless it goes back to the depot to change discs then it is surely going to have to work during the day?
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in fact I can't see how a schools contract would fit in the existing work, unless the 877/8 changes explain it.
Its main use is the school contract but will be spare for the 23
here is the decker on 23 service in Cannock https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/14989088811/
Decker has been with Select Bus Services for over a month, come on spotters let's open eyes here, hardly disguised when its white and green, its been on 23's for some time
Quote from: Tony on August 19, 2014, 09:57:21 PM
Quote from: Ashley on August 19, 2014, 09:55:27 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 19, 2014, 09:51:29 PM
Quote from: Ashley on August 19, 2014, 09:45:02 PM
Leyland Olympian j722 gap has been acquired for a school service, couple of mentions of it on service 23 on yahoo
I have already put a photo of it on the main site. They have had it for a couple of weeks
Just wasted an hour emptying my yahoo inbox, I thought it hadn't been mentioned yet
No, you are the first to mention it on the forum, which surprised me, as Jamie normally mentions things on the 23. I have seen it three times since it arrived, but it kept eluding my camera until Saturday
Wasn't this the one that broke down at V late at night?
This never broke down at V as I used the latest 1 on BOTH nights
The decker is now in Select livery...
J722GAP noted in Stafford earlier on the 878. Bet that will be interesting around the lanes in Lapley!
Is the Olympian meant to get onto the 878?
Quote from: the trainbasher on December 15, 2014, 05:02:40 PM
Is the Olympian meant to get onto the 878?
Booked to do the 1710 from Wolverhampton weekdays
Quote from: Ashley on December 15, 2014, 05:29:15 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on December 15, 2014, 05:02:40 PM
Is the Olympian meant to get onto the 878?
Booked to do the 1710 from Wolverhampton weekdays
Cheers. It's nice to see something
different in Wolverhampton!
Quote from: the trainbasher on December 15, 2014, 05:42:43 PM
Quote from: Ashley on December 15, 2014, 05:29:15 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on December 15, 2014, 05:02:40 PM
Is the Olympian meant to get onto the 878?
Booked to do the 1710 from Wolverhampton weekdays
Cheers. It's nice to see something different in Wolverhampton!
Saw this most days last week and this lunchtime again in Stafford, would seem to regularly do the 1335 from Stafford.
Olympian did the 16:01 877 from Wolverhampton today.
Anyone know where I can find a pic of the olympian
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 18, 2014, 04:44:49 PM
Anyone know where I can find a pic of the olympian
Typing J722GAP into Flickr would be a start...
Volvo B10M / Alexander PS M423RRN noted on the 877 today, did the 1501 and 1601 ex Wolverhampton
Quote from: Ashley on January 08, 2015, 06:28:22 PM
Volvo B10M / Alexander PS M423RRN noted on the 877 today, did the 1501 and 1601 ex Wolverhampton
whose bus was /is this as select has a fleet of well presented buses
There was M-reg bus doing the same board on Monday, I'm assuming it was the same one.
Quote from: Solo1 on January 08, 2015, 06:37:17 PM
Quote from: Ashley on January 08, 2015, 06:28:22 PM
Volvo B10M / Alexander PS M423RRN noted on the 877 today, did the 1501 and 1601 ex Wolverhampton
whose bus was /is this as select has a fleet of well presented buses
Ex Rigbys of Accrington
Quote from: Ashley on January 08, 2015, 06:57:55 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on January 08, 2015, 06:37:17 PM
Quote from: Ashley on January 08, 2015, 06:28:22 PM
Volvo B10M / Alexander PS M423RRN noted on the 877 today, did the 1501 and 1601 ex Wolverhampton
whose bus was /is this as select has a fleet of well presented buses
Ex Rigbys of Accrington
This was 1 of 4 that came down from EYMS to Whittles
Quote from: BN on January 08, 2015, 07:38:16 PM
Quote from: Ashley on January 08, 2015, 06:57:55 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on January 08, 2015, 06:37:17 PM
Quote from: Ashley on January 08, 2015, 06:28:22 PM
Volvo B10M / Alexander PS M423RRN noted on the 877 today, did the 1501 and 1601 ex Wolverhampton
whose bus was /is this as select has a fleet of well presented buses
Ex Rigbys of Accrington
This was 1 of 4 that came down from EYMS to Whittles
It has Stagecoach trim , pretty tidy interior, just needs the mud getting off
the decker was out today 11am ex wolves https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/15620104253/
Quote from: Solo1 on January 09, 2015, 07:24:30 PM
the decker was out today 11am ex wolves https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/15620104253/
Certainly a very smart looking fleet! Have all the ex Diamond darts now been painted?
I haven't seen 875 & 404 for a while as far as
I know 404 is the only ex diamond bus still to be
painted unless 404 is withdrawn
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on January 08, 2015, 06:40:23 PM
There was M-reg bus doing the same board on Monday, I'm assuming it was the same one. here is the volo 205 ex wolves today
https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/15625253054/
from what a driver told me, t875 engine & box are knackered, 404 same. seems these ex diamond vehicles running gear dont last long!
Just out of interest why are their buses so filthy on the outside so often? Especially the enviros? Look at the snap of the m plate volvo on the main site for an example
might have something to do with the country lanes their buses have to endure during service, and to/from their yard.
Indeed, just have a trip on the 877/878. Should be pretty obvious why the buses are dirty!
They don't have any Enviro.s - they are D&G vehicles.
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I won't repeat my opinion regarding this, as it seemed to cause a lot of aggro last time.
theres only one out at the min also. enviro i mean.
mikestone seems to think he knows it all then.............
Quote from: Busman Jamie on January 21, 2015, 09:44:17 PM
mikestone seems to think he knows it all then.............
Says Busman Jamie who has just posted incorrect rumours on the Arriva thread
The Enviro.s *are* Rolling Solutions vehicles (although Ensign gave them as to South Lancs Travel), which of course is directly connected with D&G) - some time after they replaced the Arriva 88 RS added Brown's depot as an OC . Try looking at the discs. Select only have three discs which they require for the 23,67 and one on the 877/8.
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Yesterday I discovered a leaflet in the tourist information office at Stafford including all Select Bus routes, as well as Midland Classic 402/3 and D&G 841/2 which states that a day ticket is valid on all three operators.
Which day ticket is that? ??
@Bob the info is on D&Gs website
But the leaflet doesn't say anything about it only applying to Duo tickets.
are select bus services having a problem while waiting for the Arriva 76 service in Wolverhampton, I heard quite a few people complaining about the none. Show off select buses on the Wolverhampton -Brewood-Stafford service
Woody (Craig?) they have had no issues due to their doing,
Over the last two weeks their have been a lot of bad traffic conditions along the A449 last Wednesday for example, junction 12 of the M6 was blocked by a red bull lorry overturning so therefore the taffic was going along the A449. This was causing traffic delays of up to 45 minutes and this caused major problems for the Arriva 76 and 75
Also on the Thursday their was a 12 car pile up and yet again caused problems.
Their is also road works between coven and brewood which is delaying buses of about 6 minutes
Last Monday the A449 into Wolverhampton was to one lane in both directions which caused traffic delays again
Also it was jack Haywood funeral in town this week and today their has been road works again on the A449 due to bus lane work
So does that answer ur question ? As it is pretty obvious what they problems are and they are affecting all services along the A449 especially stafford where their is major work in the sewers as well
Staffordshire county council receive updates by the hour on the service the ensure that every journey is covered regardless of being late due to people on this route are isolated and require a service.
I hope this helps
shame they dont have an information line their passengers can reach
That's the thing their is ?!? So therefore wrong information being put on this fourm again as well as other posts ? we offer to regular passengers text message updates and have for 4 years, the reason for this is that most of the passengers on Brewood and coven are known on first name terms as they are regulars and me and staff have known most of the passenger for at least 7 years plus.
Also you can phone Staffordshire county council regarding our services and look on their website.
Staffordshire and Centro also advertise the number which can be found on their websites ?
Arriva stupidly interwork every other 70 with the 76 which causes knock on effects to wolves to cannock passengers too
really sbs? what about the passengers who don't know? its ok saying you know them on first name terms, but there were quite a few looking fed up and worried they had been stranded. i occasionally jump on your bus myself, but i don't know who to contact etc, otherwise i may have been able to assist your passengers the other day - i.e make a call.
i wasn't slagging sbs off like others either, however lately things are not as promising as when you first appeared. I hope you do well, and get your buses all smart like they were a few months back. the orange bus is hellfire, a nice ride compared to the usual offering, and the decker is quite tidy too. (however as i followed it out of town earlier, i could hardly see the rear lights - i know them lanes are terrible to keep vehicles clean, but may be an idea for drivers to check they are visible).
its a real pity you dont have the technology other ops in wolves have so the real time info works - maybe good to reassure passengers its on its way?
Yes really, the phone number is shown on some of the buses and is printed on tickets printed from the machine. Although they can phone STAFFORDSHIRE county council anytime and they will answer any questions they have.
Yes I understand your comments it dosnt help that I'n the West Midlands that CENTRO are in charge of bus stops due to often information is wrong and we can't put our contact number anywhere also CENTRO are useless..
This week we have had no issues at all it was last week due to problems listed above but it is very rare we have any problems at all. That why passengers stranded we would never do that all services operate and even when their was traffic delays we operated late just to make sure people could get home, as they are very isolated areas.
The number to contact is 07746605679
The problem with the dirt is that we can clean the bus in a morning and then by 11 o'clock the same day it's dirty again, this is due to lanes in Morton and church eaton, their is simply nothing we can do about, even if washed day and night.
As from today the Orange volvo won't be used it was just a stop gap due to a bus being involved in a accident but now repaired. So that makes all the fleet painted.
Their are plans to add more tech to buses but this is aimed at the Staffordshire end rather than the West Midlands as mainly the services operate in Staffordshire.
Yes it is still in use mainly Monday to Friday at the moment it is out all day but usually it would only be used at peak times.
Sometimes appears on service 23 in school holidays
Regarding ticket we offer Single tickets or return tickets on the service 878/877
Interesting question I will have a look tomorrow and email it too as mainly the returns consist of Coven, brewood or wheaton aston to wolves.
I think it's around 530 but I will have a look
Cheers Select buses for your response, I now the service is long & buses can get held up
Yes has been a nightmare recently
I know exactly where sbs is coming from re centro and there bus stops. Back at Ampm on the 110 there was a diversion set in tamworth for one Sunday we & arriva put up notices on all the bus stops to warn people of possible heavy delays. Centro made us & arriva take them off all centro bus shelters as they were unauthorised. As a result passengers from staffordshire knew what was happening & quietly waited for the buses where passengers in centro land complained about the lack of information regarding the delays.
Centro are not that edept at providing information regarding delays to cross boundary services only those wholly within the west midlands, it's as if it ain't in our area then it doesn't matter.
Any plans to expand? Or compete? Come and bost arrivas monopoly in cannock lol
Steve,
Totally agree with your comment, it is like they couldn't care about cross boundary services and sometimes their is even a lack on knowledge about them, ie the nbus the amount of people trying to use them in Staffordshire is unreal all because of lack of information on Centros part.
Bob, we will just see what happens
I take your point on cross boundary routes but you could argue that staffs cc are a bit disinterested in bus transport, look at the state of some of the bus stations in the county, ( although most are owned by district councils surely the cc have some say in things?) Like Lichfield, not been touched since the 1970s! Why is there not a staffordshire all operator pass like N Bus etc?
Yes but centro charges the operators a fortune in upkeep of the infrastructure.
Least it gets up kept
select bus no.2 t442ebd broken down this morning in darlington street wolverhampton. was amazed to see their mechanic change a faulty compressor and it was driven away hopefully fixed!!! makes you think, especially with todays health and safety rules, and other operators spending money on tow ins when like in this case they can be fixed whilst in attendance
Apparently these guys have bought some sort of Wright Eclipse, did I miss something?
For anyone interested, the leyland decker is out today on the 878. Departed wolves 1030 approx.
Does anyone know when is the next arrival time for the Leyland decker in Wolverhampton? The timetable for 877/878 is a bit strange.
Quote from: P419 EJW on April 01, 2015, 11:39:25 AM
Does anyone know when is the next arrival time for the Leyland decker in Wolverhampton? The timetable for 877/878 is a bit strange.
1351 from the Art Gallery
Quote from: P419 EJW on April 01, 2015, 12:54:42 PM
Brilliant, thank you, @Ashley 60171. :)
Hopefully you got it and hopefully you enjoyed :)
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on April 01, 2015, 04:37:13 PM
Hopefully you got it and hopefully you enjoyed :)
Unfortunately, it wasn't the Leyland decker, it was the E200. I asked the driver about the decker, he was helpful and said "The decker only comes out to take and pick up the kids to/from school then do the one 877/878 trip in am and pm then to the garage." Will catch it tomorrow instead. :) Thanks anyway for your help,
@Ashley 60171.
I saw the double decker leaving Pitcher Bank showing 878 at 15.14, 14 minutes late, on Wednesday - if it goes to depot after arriving at Stafford at 12.21 and comes back for the 15.00 what does the 13.35 from Stafford?
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One bus is in the 13.01 from Wolves and one on 12.15 from Stafford and both the 23 and 67 are running too?
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Quote from: mikestone on April 04, 2015, 11:19:15 AM
I saw the double decker leaving Pitcher Bank showing 878 at 15.14, 14 minutes late, on Wednesday - if it goes to depot after arriving at Stafford at 12.21 and comes back for the 15.00 what does the 13.35 from Stafford?
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One bus is in the 13.01 from Wolves and one on 12.15 from Stafford and both the 23 and 67 are running too?
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The Leyland Olympian doesn't go back to the garage in midday, it has a long break and will serve the 13:35 ex Stafford. There is a point on the route where the drivers will change - the Olympian will "terminate" and a bus (the E200 in my case because I did the 878 whole trip there and back) will wait to pick up the passengers from the Leyland bus to carry on the route to Wolverhampton. The Leyland bus will go back to Stafford (according to the destination display) and I assume will do the 15:00 ex Stafford for the school run then, and will come back to Wolverhampton around 17:00 and serve the last journey of the day, back to the garage.
Olympian about to leave Lichfield Street, Wolverhampton on the 878.
These have another LWB E200 - YX59 BX?
select has now painted one of the envrios into their fleet livery look rather nice https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/17221268156/
Quote from: 646 on April 20, 2015, 03:05:53 PM
These have another LWB E200 - YX59 BX?
here is the 59 reg one soon to be painted https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16624770534/
Or have they - the decker was on the 878 too, and they only have one working on the 877/8.
After reading through this thread, I still can't work out what times the Olympians operate, can anybody help? I would like from wolverhampton or Stafford
@Trident 4194 The Olympian does the 1710 878 off Wolverhampton bound for Brewood. Hope that helps
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 26, 2015, 08:42:10 AM
After reading through this thread, I still can't work out what times the Olympians operate, can anybody help? I would like from wolverhampton or Stafford
@Trident 4194 On school days, the Leyland Olympian normally serves 11:01 878 from the Art Gallery, Wolverhampton and arrives in Stafford at 12:21.
Quote from: Solo1 on April 23, 2015, 07:40:00 PM
here is the 59 reg one soon to be painted https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16624770534/
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YX59BXZ was parked in Pitcher Bank today around mid-day with paper legals for Select and no disc, as far as I could see.
Well I've just been on it and their is a disk on the dash board ? Wrong information again please only put facts.
Taken from the operators guide on the VOSA website
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What you must do with your discs
A valid operator's disc must be displayed
on the *windscreen* of any PSV
Yes I am fully aware of the guide and the laws surrounding it, the holder on that e200 is a standard fitting. We use the ash tree ones which are rubber inserts which are a really good design as they protect the disks from damp, especially when they are 4 years old!
We have just started using this e200 and it so far has not been fitted with items which are standard in our fleet, plus we are having new ticketed machines so these will be fitted soon.
The licence disk is being put at the front of the bus in the windscreen on the dash board unless the dashboard sits on the roof? so it is visible from the front screen, NOT the side glass, but it is clearly visible, clearly you looked at the standard holder which will be removed, any way the standard holder is not in the windscreen its in the side screen so surely they are in the wrong place, with what you have stated.
The driver was on his brake at the time, all I can say is that you have mostly looking just at the side screen to come to your assumption rather than looking at the windscreen. Or it may have dropped down but I doubt that as I checked it tonight.
The new holders will be fitted this Sunday when it is due an inspection.
All I ask is for factual comments which a lot of people here do but their are some who dont, I will say in these forum rules it does state that slanderous information is not allowed and clearly this happens.
I am a bus enthusiast myself so i understand why people are interested, but their is a difference between an interest and critisement.
Just look at Arriva at the moment with the 75 and 76 criticise something which is affecting passengers! I really feel sorry for them at the moment. I just hope national express do really well!
Ben
J722GAP reported as a static exhibit at the POPS rally today. EEH902Y from Aston Manor is also there.
How much is the 878 from Wolves to Stafford if I have an nbus?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 21, 2015, 06:05:32 PM
How much is the 878 from Wolves to Stafford if I have an nbus?
You can only use your Nbus to the Wolverhampton/Staffordshire border on Stafford Rd so i'd just buy a single from Wolverhampton (I do not know how much it is though)
Quote from: Nathan on June 21, 2015, 06:08:53 PM
You can only use your Nbus to the Wolverhampton/Staffordshire border on Stafford Rd so i'd just buy a single from Wolverhampton (I do not know how much it is though)
I thought you could use an nbus to Stafford on 54?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 21, 2015, 06:11:48 PM
I thought you could use an nbus to Stafford on 54?
No, you cannot use an N-Bus past the last stop at the back of the I54 Business Park (Last stop on Innovation Drive)
You can use a NXWM Regional Pass/Daysaver on the full length of both routes
You can use a NXWM Black Country pass on the full 154 to Hednesford but only to Coven on the 54
Any idea roughly how much it is on either 54 or 878?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 21, 2015, 06:34:42 PM
Any idea roughly how much it is on either 54 or 878?
On the 54, it is £2.10 the full route. If you wished to come back on the 54, the best option would be a child daysaver at £2.90
Quote from: Nathan on June 21, 2015, 06:44:49 PM
On the 54, it is £2.10 the full route. If you wished to come back on the 54, the best option would be a child daysaver at £2.90
I just found that out, but thanks. I wouldn't want 2 hours on a rattling bit of plastic
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 21, 2015, 06:46:30 PM
I just found that out, but thanks. I wouldn't want 2 hours on a rattling bit of plastic
So why did you ask how much it was on the 54 if you didn't want the answer
Quote from: Tony on June 21, 2015, 06:49:50 PM
So why did you ask how much it was on the 54 if you didn't want the answer
I wouldn't want to get it there and back, just back I think
And Select don't accept Nbus at all apparently...
Is it free to go to pendeford business park on nbus? Sorry for the persistent questions
If its within the west midlands then would
of thought so
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 21, 2015, 07:21:13 PM
Is it free to go to pendeford business park on nbus? Sorry for the persistent questions
Yes you can go to Pendeford Business Park on an N-Bus. It serves the business park before it does the I54.
@the trainbasher i've been on a Select Bus with my N-Bus before.
Quote from: Nathan on June 21, 2015, 07:33:53 PM
Yes you can go to Pendeford Business Park on an N-Bus. It serves the business park before it does the I54.
@the trainbasher i've been on a Select Bus with my N-Bus before.
I was told it was from 01.03.2015 that it stopped
Select appear to have inherited an ex-Lothian 52-plate SPD.
Noted freshly painted entering Wolverhampton this afternoon.
Quote from: 646 on June 22, 2015, 08:46:32 PM
Select appear to have inherited an ex-Lothian 52-plate SPD.
Noted freshly painted entering Wolverhampton this afternoon.
It appears they've taken two via Ensignbus ie SK52OHX & OHZ
Noted OHX heading along the A5 this evening
OHZ is on the 878 today, just seen it in Stafford going past the office.
Does anyone know if the Leyland Olympian J722 GAP is still 'alive'? Last week, I was waiting for the 878, 11:01 departure ex Wolverhampton, it was normally the double decker but that time was an E200. I asked the driver about the double decker. He said that the bus is dead and will be scrapped. I was wondering whether if I could have a confirmation on that?
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 02, 2015, 09:52:52 PM
Does anyone know if the Leyland Olympian J722 GAP is still 'alive'? Last week, I was waiting for the 878, 11:01 departure ex Wolverhampton, it was normally the double decker but that time was an E200. I asked the driver about the double decker. He said that the bus is dead and will be scrapped. I was wondering whether if I could have a confirmation on that?
Couldn't definitely say yay or nay but the E200 is now where the Olly would be departure wise. Think an SK52 is definitely the second bus but unsure of the third.
877/8 has had WA09FHK, SK52OHX and YX59BXZ
Y3 NBB the crappy old dart has broke down in cannock right by the bus stn causing absolute chaos cops directing traffic etc
The T reg Wright bodied dart looks like its broke down parked in cannock bus stn with engine cover up, on the 67. Hope the passengers arent stranded lol.
Where do routes 877/878 stop in Wolverhampton?
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on July 28, 2015, 07:05:20 PM
Where do routes 877/878 stop in Wolverhampton?
Lichfield St (Opposite the Art Gallery)
@Dylanbusboy45 remember that you won't be able to use a nBus on them. nNetwork is however acceptable!
Ok thanks :)
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 02, 2015, 09:52:52 PM
Does anyone know if the Leyland Olympian J722 GAP is still 'alive'? Last week, I was waiting for the 878, 11:01 departure ex Wolverhampton, it was normally the double decker but that time was an E200. I asked the driver about the double decker. He said that the bus is dead and will be scrapped. I was wondering whether if I could have a confirmation on that?
j722 gap looks to have been resurrected. seen on 877/8 today.
Quote from: mranon on July 31, 2015, 03:16:53 PM
j722 gap looks to have been resurrected. seen on 877/8 today.
Oh, that's brilliant! Thank you for letting me know,
@mranon. :)
I wonder if there is any new work in the pipeline with the impending loss of the 23 route.
Quote from: busman99 on August 01, 2015, 04:08:45 PM
I wonder if there is any new work in the pipeline with the impending loss of the 23 route.
Whats happening with the 23? Local authority cuts leafing to cancellation or someone else taking it on?
Ive heard the LA have cut funding
Quote from: DiamondDart on August 01, 2015, 05:05:48 PM
Whats happening with the 23? Local authority cuts leafing to cancellation or someone else taking it on?
could select not merge it with 67 service I know there are only a few journey's on there but it would be better than no service for those who use it
people of wimblebury would still moan trust me i live there.... i thought my missus was hard to please till i got to know the people of wimblebury
Quote from: Solo1 on August 01, 2015, 07:36:44 PM
could select not merge it with 67 service I know there are only a few journey's on there but it would be better than no service for those who use it
I believe arriva maybe covering some of the route but not all. A friend of mine tells me
Quote from: busman99 on August 01, 2015, 08:50:52 PM
I believe arriva maybe covering some of the route but not all. A friend of mine tells me
Hourly Arriva 61 will go via Wimblebury I believe, route goes from
Cannock to Lichfield.
well, makes you wonder what select will do to replace the 23
and all we can do is wonder...
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Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Stafford, Goal Square
Finish Point: Stafford, Goal Square
Via:
Service Number: 9
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 19-OCT-2015
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Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Stafford, Chell Road
Finish Point: Stafford, Goal Square
Via:
Service Number: 8
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 26-OCT-2015
Other Details: Monday to Friday
An interesting route choice
Quote from: busman99 on August 25, 2015, 12:26:26 PM
An interesting route choice
Yet more competition for Arriva Midlands
At arriva door.
Knock knock
Who's there
Absolutely everyone
These rumoured 'big DB changes @ Arriva' are clearing scaring everyone off....
There's only Diamond to left to join the party
Select have also registered service 8 too...looks like the Rail Station and Goal Square are going to be busy!
I reckon theresroom for both on the 9. Its a busy route to a pretty deprived part of stafford.
They cant be offering much of a frequency though
Quote from: Winston on August 25, 2015, 06:28:58 PM
Yet more competition for Arriva Midlands
Competition???
This is not the case though. Running 5 minutes in front of another operator is not competing on the route its merely a way to collect passengers that would of otherwise used another operator. Competition would be where passengers choose to get on another operator for example where the service is every 15 minutes. I hate people saying they are competing. Its a joke. Honestly the likes of select bus and social travel would never be able to compete against arriva unless they run so close to the arriva times to take their passengers. Try running to different times then see how long it lasts
Central buses with both the X55 and 66 ran on the opposite 15 minutes to Arriva. Arriva just re registered 5 minutes in front! Where's the incentive to balance the service there?
James
Quote from: busman99 on August 25, 2015, 08:38:17 PM
Competition???
This is not the case though. Running 5 minutes in front of abother operator is not competing on the route its merely a way to collect passengers that would of otherwise used another operator. Competition woild be where passengers choose to get on another operator for example where the service is every 15 minutes. I hate people saying they are competing. Its a joke. Honestly the likes of select bus and social travel would never be able to compete against arriva unless they run so close to the arriva times to take their passengers. Try running to different times then see how long it lasts
It's still competition, whether 5 mins in front or slotted inbetween Arriva frequency. Passengers can choose to wait for the Arriva service if they so wish, especially if it's only going to be 5 mins behind. How do you know that Select or Social won't be offering cheaper fares or returns compared to Arriva?
I'd be more concerned why numerous smaller operators are launching competition services on numerous Arriva routes, some quite effectively!
Quote from: James on August 25, 2015, 08:43:40 PM
Central buses with both the X55 and 66 ran on the opposite 15 minutes to Arriva. Arriva just re registered 5 minutes in front! Where's the incentive to balance the service there?
James
James, it's called one rule for one & another rule for someone else ......
Because its an easy option instead of trying something else. These flyby night companies make a quick buck then in the end will be beat to the finish by the likes of NEWM and Arriva.
Quote from: James on August 25, 2015, 08:43:40 PM
Central buses with both the X55 and 66 ran on the opposite 15 minutes to Arriva. Arriva just re registered 5 minutes in front! Where's the incentive to balance the service there?
James
Central buses have never offered opposite 15 minutes. Again another company which will be beat to the finish I believe
Quote from: busman99 on August 25, 2015, 08:38:17 PM
Competition???
This is not the case though. Running 5 minutes in front of another operator is not competing on the route its merely a way to collect passengers that would of otherwise used another operator. Competition would be where passengers choose to get on another operator for example where the service is every 15 minutes. I hate people saying they are competing. Its a joke. Honestly the likes of select bus and social travel would never be able to compete against arriva unless they run so close to the arriva times to take their passengers. Try running to different times then see how long it lasts
As the 9 is every 12 minutes I would think running 5 minutes in front is balancing the service out
Quote from: busman99 on August 25, 2015, 08:51:50 PM
Because its an easy option instead of trying something else. These flyby night companies make a quick buck then in the end will be beat to the finish by the likes of NEWM and Arriva.
I haven't seen much evidence of Arriva Midlands beating any of their more recent competition to the finish. Quite the opposite in fact where Central Buses are concerned, Banga also held their own of the 530 & Arriva subsequently gained new competition on the 891
Thanks tony, Winston and James. BUS MAN 99 can you explain why in the five years select bus have operated Brewood Arriva have timed buses in front of them 4 times ???? and they think it is acceptable ? Also can you explain why Arriva constantly keep saying they can do routes commercially when they can not just to get operators off routes it's madness ! So now Select is doing the same thing why is this wrong? Arriva are the ones who keep creating the problem no one else !
@SBS you mean like when they spat their dummy out when NXWM won tenders for Cannock evening services? That was hilarious.
From what i see in Lichfield during my working week the Central bus to Tamworth is more often than not busier than Arriva's X60. Arriva have recently downgraded it from 61 plates to anything up to 14 yrs old too. Did they not think it worthy of the newer buses?
I couldnt believe they failed against Banga.....
Quote from: SBS on August 25, 2015, 09:00:46 PM
Thanks tony, Winston and James. BUS MAN 99 can you explain why in the five years select bus have operated Brewood Arriva have timed buses in front of them 4 times ???? and they think it is acceptable ? Also can you explain why Arriva constantly keep saying they can do routes commercially when they can not just to get operators off routes it's madness ! So now Select is doing the same thing why is this wrong? Arriva are the ones who keep creating the problem no one else !
@SBS it seems your questions were too much for Busman99, he's just left the building..... ???
Yes Bob plus their are other occurrences ie the service 23 and others.
Also I will make a comment, many operators over the years have tried new routes but yet when these look successful Arriva just time buses in front like James said or start new routes to compete so their is sometimes no point doing new routes as they want everything for themselves ridiculous!
Winston it looks like that lol
Quote from: SBS on August 25, 2015, 09:11:54 PM
Yes Bob plus their are other occurrences ie the service 23 and others.
Also I will make a comment, many operators over the years have tried new routes but yet when these look successful Arriva just time buses in front like James said or start new routes to compete so their is sometimes no point doing new routes as they want everything for themselves ridiculous!
Winston it looks like that lol
It looks as though the shoes now on the other foot in the weaker Arriva areas with the amount of new competition they are on the receiving end of.
What buses do you plan on using on the new Stafford services?
Undecided yet To be honest maybe the loithan darts or enviros. As a lot of the older darts will have to go due to DDA, the only old darts staying planned is Y705 and T442. But the newer darts with Isb engines seem a lot more reliable, basically the loithan darts we have just bought are very similar to enviros mechanically. I think we might need some more additions tbf
There's a lot of pressure being put on arriva now. Strength in numbers & all that.
I know simon dunn reads these posts so come on mate join the party it's fun.
First to knock arriva off one of their routes wins a bottle of wine lol
Quote from: SBS on August 25, 2015, 09:27:14 PM
Undecided yet To be honest maybe the loithan darts or enviros. As a lot of the older darts will have to go due to DDA, the only old darts staying planned is Y705 and T442. But the newer darts with Isb engines seem a lot more reliable, basically the loithan darts we have just bought are very similar to enviros mechanically. I think we might need some more additions tbf
Are the newer ex Lothian SPD's much better than earlier SPD's then? I understand the earlier ones suffered from a number of problems including body sag at the rear
Yes loads better. You are right about the earlier ones as we have one. Although we haven't had problems with the body, we have had problems with gearboxes, the cummings b series and Alison World Series combination either seems to work nice or completely goes wrong, also it has electrical issues but I think sometimes it's luck of the draw. We might DDA v509 but only if we can get the issues sorted
Quote from: Steveminor on August 25, 2015, 09:31:34 PM
There's a lot of pressure being put on arriva now. Strength in numbers & all that.
I know simon dunn reads these posts so come on mate join the party it's fun.
First to knock arriva off one of their routes wins a bottle of wine lol
Even NXWM are nibbling at the edges with i54 routes & Amazon contract, I'm surprised there hasn't been more response from Arriva against the smaller operators that should be easier to remove from competition services
@SBS will you take any further SPD'S from Ensign? Or have all the current batch now been sold?
The other odd things with the loithan darts are they are run with add blue so they are euro 4 and they have double glazed windows. Loithan just seemed to spend a lot of OFF HAND COMMENT REMOVED
Quote from: SBS on August 25, 2015, 09:43:26 PM
The other odd things with the loithan darts are they are run with add blue so they are euro 4 and they have double glazed windows. Loithan just seemed to spend a lot of money on them obviously curtiousy of the tax payer
Will you take any further SPD'S from Ensign? Or have all the current batch now been sold? Ex Lothian buses do always seem well looked after & appear to make good used acquisitions.
The batch is now all sold. 18 went in a week ! I couldn't believe it, I suppose something else will come along.
Quote from: SBS on August 25, 2015, 09:46:52 PM
The batch is now all sold. 18 went in a week ! I couldn't believe it, I suppose something else will come along.
That's good going.... I think Lothian still have more still in service, plus 04 plate B7RLE's are starting to be put in reserve. I think they've recently taken another batch of new buses, but deckers
Quote from: Winston on August 25, 2015, 09:49:25 PM
That's good going.... I think Lothian still have more still in service, plus 04 plate B7RLE's are starting to be put in reserve. I think they've recently taken another batch of new buses, but deckers
Only SPDs left at Lothian are driver trainers, all the 52-plates have gone.
That's interesting as tbf they are good buses I suppose it's a question of see what happens and what comes available, I'll keep looking anyway.
Quote from: Cheese on August 25, 2015, 09:51:57 PM
Only SPDs left at Lothian are driver trainers, all the 52-plates have gone.
Aren't there more 53 plates or are they the trainers?
Quote from: Winston on August 25, 2015, 09:54:28 PM
Aren't there more 53 plates or are they the trainers?
Three 52-plate trainers, the 53-plate ones appear to be scattered as follows:
SN53 AUW - Rambler of Hastings
SN53 AUX/VD/E/O - JMB Travel of Newmains (?)
SN53 AUY/VC/F/L - Renown of Bexhill
SN53 AVG/K/M/P - Ipswich Buses
SN53 AVR/T - Bay Travel of Cowdenbeath
I have got a few pictures of the Renown ones in Hastings on Rail Replacement earlier this year.
Quote from: Cheese on August 25, 2015, 10:09:17 PM
Three 52-plate trainers, the 53-plate ones appear to be scattered as follows:
SN53 AUW - Rambler of Hastings
SN53 AUX/VD/E/O - JMB Travel of Newmains (?)
SN53 AUY/VC/F/L - Renown of Bexhill
SN53 AVG/K/M/P - Ipswich Buses
SN53 AVR/T - Bay Travel of Cowdenbeath
I have got a few pictures of the Renown ones in Hastings on Rail Replacement earlier this year.
There's also one other 52 plate in reserve as of July (fleet No 65), but you're right, no more left other than those
Quote from: Winston on August 25, 2015, 10:15:13 PM
There's also one other 52 plate in reserve as of July (fleet No 65), but you're right, no more left other than those
The Ensign intake lists suggest that 65 SK52OJJ went to Purfleet in February this year, not entirely sure whether that is correct or not as there don't seem to be any pictures of it recently.
PD1098350/1 - B P BROWN TRAVEL LTD T/A SELECT BUS SERVICES, 2 NAGINGTON DRIVE, PENKRIDGE, STAFFORD, ST19 5TA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Stafford and Wolverhampton given service number 878/877 effective from 26-Oct-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
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Quote from: SBS on August 25, 2015, 09:11:54 PM
Yes Bob plus their are other occurrences ie the service 23 and others.
Also I will make a comment, many operators over the years have tried new routes but yet when these look successful Arriva just time buses in front like James said or start new routes to compete so their is sometimes no point doing new routes as they want everything for themselves ridiculous!
Of course they 'want everything for themselves'. Arriva is in business to make money, not be nice. I doubt their financial director reporting to Germany that 'well, we let ABC123 Buses have such and such a route because it was a nice thing to do' would go down too well.
There are two possible ways that Arriva will deal with the competition it is experiencing at the moment. One would be to do as it did with Wardle and give things up as a bad job, which would suggest that the routes involved are hardly star performers. If it elects to fight back, those currently having a pop would be well advised to have a plan B ready, because you can only poke a wasp's nest so many times.
Quote from: SBS on August 25, 2015, 09:43:26 PMLoithan just seemed to spend a lot of money on them obviously curtiousy of the tax payer
No, courtesy of the profit it makes and not having the same demand for a return to shareholders as publicly-traded operators.
Quote from: barry619 on August 26, 2015, 09:54:06 PM
No, courtesy of the profit it makes and not having the same demand for a return to shareholders as publicly-traded operators.
Thats correct, Council owned bus companies have to be run as arms length companies.
Barry, I think you missed the point. What I was trying to say obvously if Arriva keep giving competition they need to expect it back? Also if It was the case why won't they go on Natex routes?
Barry, loithan, ....................
Barry, wardle was fine until Arriva got their hands on it ?
Barry, also poking the wasp nest ? Clearly this is what they are doing to small companies
Barry if you poke a wasp's nest & you get stung. You generally then try to destroy the wasp's nest.
Or in Banga's case poke a wasp nest on the 891 & Arriva pull out of the original route they were dismally attempting to compete on. Imagine if they tried to hit on key nx corridors with their army of old mpds and cadets? A roaring success for sure....
Quote from: Bob on August 27, 2015, 11:08:00 AM
Or in Banga's case poke a wasp nest on the 891 & Arriva pull out of the original route they were dismally attempting to compete on. Imagine if they tried to hit on key nx corridors with their army of old mpds and cadets? A roaring success for sure....
@Bob they'd Probably do on NX222 i would be happy to have some darts on there instead of E200's
@RS @Bob I can name more routes that have gone head to head against NXWM, and failed, than I can care to remember
The outer circle - everyone but diamond has tried it (that route I swear is cursed as everyone who's done it bar Social Travel -touch wood - has ended up closing down due to various reasons)
Arriva on the Dudley to Merry Hill via Brierley Hill corridor
Diamond/Central Connect/Birmingham Coach on the 130, 247, 248, Dudley to Merry Hill via Brierley Hill, 9, 17, 37, 97)
The 246 (AMPM/GRS)
The nxwm travelcard system is too strong you know. I think the only commercial route that nxwm have withdrawn and is still commercially operated is the 530 (Banga)
@barry619 The problem for Arriva is the number of competing operators all jumping on the bandwagon to attack established Arriva routes, they have/will have Banga, Central Buses, GHA, Select, Social Travel all nibbling away at their business, whilst NXWM also appear to be expanding in to traditional Arriva territory with the i54 contracts, schools work & the Amazon contract, it may only be a matter of time before NX try to gain more SCC tenders the could be run from WA or WN garages.
It doesn't appear to be quick fix for Arriva to remove all those operators off competing routes, at present they don't seem to be putting up that much of a fight other than a few antics going on behind the scenes mentioned on here
Quote from: the trainbasher on August 27, 2015, 01:12:29 PM
@RS @Bob I can name more routes that have gone head to head against NXWM, and failed, than I can care to remember
The outer circle - everyone but diamond has tried it (that route I swear is cursed as everyone who's done it bar Social Travel -touch wood - has ended up closing down due to various reasons)
Arriva on the Dudley to Merry Hill via Brierley Hill corridor
Diamond/Central Connect/Birmingham Coach on the 130, 247, 248, Dudley to Merry Hill via Brierley Hill, 9, 17, 37, 97)
The 246 (AMPM/GRS)
The nxwm travelcard system is too strong you know. I think the only commercial route that nxwm have withdrawn and is still commercially operated is the 530 (Banga)
Thanks for the info ;D
Quote from: the trainbasher on August 27, 2015, 01:12:29 PM
@RS @Bob I can name more routes that have gone head to head against NXWM, and failed, than I can care to remember
The outer circle - everyone but diamond has tried it (that route I swear is cursed as everyone who's done it bar Social Travel -touch wood - has ended up closing down due to various reasons)
Arriva on the Dudley to Merry Hill via Brierley Hill corridor
Diamond/Central Connect/Birmingham Coach on the 130, 247, 248, Dudley to Merry Hill via Brierley Hill, 9, 17, 37, 97)
The 246 (AMPM/GRS)
The nxwm travelcard system is too strong you know. I think the only commercial route that nxwm have withdrawn and is still commercially operated is the 530 (Banga)
Not strictly true, there are certain corridors where other operators are successfully competing on NXWM routes i.e. Diamond on the 301/302
Quote from: Winston on August 27, 2015, 01:17:20 PM
Not strictly true, there are certain corridors where other operators are successfully competing on NXWM routes i.e. Diamond on the 301/302
Claribels on the 55 and 94. Acturley I believe DTS and Social are doing quite well on the 11 and 966!
@the trainbasher
Quote from: SBS on August 27, 2015, 06:54:32 AM
Barry, I think you missed the point. What I was trying to say obvously if Arriva keep giving competition they need to expect it back? Also if It was the case why won't they go on Natex routes?
Barry, loithan is partly owned by the tax payer
Barry, wardle was fine until Arriva got their hands on it ?
Barry, also poking the wasp nest ? Clearly this is what they are doing to small companies
1. Of course they 'need to expect it back'. However you seem to think that it is not OK for them to fight back.
2. No, Lothian is entirely owned by the taxpayer. It also makes a profit, albeit a small one, and receives no taxpayer subsidy. Hence your original point that the Darts had had work done on the 'courtesy of the taxpayer' is wrong. The work has been done courtesy of Lothian's gross profit. If you are who I think you are, you should understand things like this as it is simple economics of bus operation.
3. Correct, but relevance to my point is what?
4. C'mon, think about it and what 'poking a wasp's nest' means. If Arriva keep annoying an operator with a handful of buses, what exactly is the latter party going to do about it? And which party has the best backing for the inevitable war of attrition?
Quote from: Steveminor on August 27, 2015, 08:19:54 AM
Barry if you poke a wasp's nest & you get stung. You generally then try to destroy the wasp's nest.
So what you are saying is that if a small operator continually provokes Arriva until is fights back with a vengeance, then the small operator should attempt to destroy Arriva?
If you think that is the best course of action, I have nothing more to say other than if, in due course, you have the chance to put your logic into practice, be sure to let us know what happens.
Quote from: Winston on August 27, 2015, 01:13:52 PM
@barry619 The problem for Arriva is the number of competing operators all jumping on the bandwagon to attack established Arriva routes, they have/will have Banga, Central Buses, GHA, Select, Social Travel all nibbling away at their business, whilst NXWM also appear to be expanding in to traditional Arriva territory with the i54 contracts, schools work & the Amazon contract, it may only be a matter of time before NX try to gain more SCC tenders the could be run from WA or WN garages.
It doesn't appear to be quick fix for Arriva to remove all those operators off competing routes, at present they don't seem to be putting up that much of a fight other than a few antics going on behind the scenes mentioned on here
Quite, and while NXWM is clearly a different kettle of fish if Arriva was stupid enough to take it on in a full-scale 'bus war', it would have little difficulty in wiping out any and all of the smaller firms in short order if it really wanted to. The fact that it doesn't seem bothered suggests that the routes involved may in some cases be nothing worth fighting over, or that it is losing interest in the WM operation. Certainly the Wardle experiment backfired spectacularly.
As for GHA - there are two schools of thought about GHA's long-term future, but it is hardly having a serious pop at Arriva on high-volume commercial corridors. If GHA was to take the Shrewsbury P&R contract, which if it is based on price alone they it do, it may provoke a more robust response from Arriva.
Quote from: barry619 on August 27, 2015, 07:18:48 PM
Quite, and while NXWM is clearly a different kettle of fish if Arriva was stupid enough to take it on in a full-scale 'bus war', it would have little difficulty in wiping out any and all of the smaller firms in short order if it really wanted to. The fact that it doesn't seem bothered suggests that the routes involved may in some cases be nothing worth fighting over, or that it is losing interest in the WM operation. Certainly the Wardle experiment backfired spectacularly.
As for GHA - there are two schools of thought about GHA's long-term future, but it is hardly having a serious pop at Arriva on high-volume commercial corridors. If GHA was to take the Shrewsbury P&R contract, which if it is based on price alone they it do, it may provoke a more robust response from Arriva.
The fact that Arriva doesn't appear bothered by the arrival of more new competition is in my opinion only inviting more operators to join the party.
As regards GHA not yet, I suspect they will go after the Shrewsbury Park & Ride contract & commercial services against Arriva may well follow in the future
Quote from: the trainbasher on August 27, 2015, 01:12:29 PM
Arriva on the Dudley to Merry Hill via Brierley Hill corridor
Diamond/Central Connect/Birmingham Coach on the 130, 247, 248, Dudley to Merry Hill via Brierley Hill, 9, 17, 37, 97)
The 246 (AMPM/GRS)
Can you really say Arriva gave it their all with the 310 though? With so many different operators around the black country there's a lot of people with multi op tickets like swift, just don't think Arriva gave it enough time to grow
Quote from: the trainbasher on August 27, 2015, 01:12:29 PM
The nxwm travelcard system is too strong you know. I think the only commercial route that nxwm have withdrawn and is still commercially operated is the 530 (Banga)
Personally I would say very strong, not TOO strong. Seeing more and more people using Swift cards these days, and healthy loads on Diamond 16 and Claribels buses.
Also, just to point out, NX used to run the 156 back in WMT days, very much now a Diamond route
Quote from: Kevin on August 27, 2015, 08:02:52 PM
Can you really say Arriva gave it their all with the 310 though? With so many different operators around the black country there's a lot of people with multi op tickets like swift, just don't think Arriva gave it enough time to grow
Personally I would say very strong, not TOO strong. Seeing more and more people using Swift cards these days, and healthy loads on Diamond 16 and Claribels buses.
Also, just to point out, NX used to run the 156 back in WMT days, very much now a Diamond route
The 156 has always been 'another operator's' route, never WMT (except boxing day!) although when it was Midland Red North it was hourly with the TWM 995 also hourly on the opposite half hour
Barry, with the upmost respect I still think you are missing the point, and I have not certainly said on here I don't expect Arriva to retaliate to these small independent company's I am merely saying that Arriva need to expect a reaction from small companies if they do things across them which is clearly happening.
Also I think you are taking comments too seriously this is an Internet forum not a formal meeting ?! and to be honest I think most people have got better things too do. But as for the loithan comments this is what I refer this too was an off hand remark which has sparked you off. I was having a conversation with winston.I only add the odd comments where I will state the facts about sbs which normally get interpreted wrong.
156??
The 156 was a MRN route prior to that a form of it was a Harpers route. MRN ran Olympians on it for years, i dont know what the hell happened but Arriva managed to absolutely run it into the ground!
TWM ran the 156a evening & Sundays at one point under contract to Centro.
For a moment I thought "here we go again I swear I remember a WM 156"
But... Just trawling through all the evidence I've got at home turns out I am actually going spare, probably confused it with the 158
Wasnt there a 155? To Aldridge?
Off topic
nice to see 2 T442EBD AND 6 Y705TGH are staying sbs
nice little motors :)
Arriva do not like running into Brum for some reason, the only buses they operate are from the Tamworth area, I remember back in 1986 they upped the frequency to every 20 minutes on the 154 156 I have a timetable of it somewhere, then there was the moterway links X1,X31,X32, X33, X34,X86, X87, X89 all operated from Cannock, Walsall, Wolverhampton area back then now there is nothing. Still thing there is a demand for a service between Cannock & Brum but nobody seems to want to take it, thing the 156 could make more money for Diamond to run it Brum-Aldridge-Brownhills(missing out the back Roads)-Brownhills(missing out Newtown)-Cannock via A5.
spare vehicle i think, was the main face on 23
Quote from: woody38 on August 27, 2015, 11:02:22 PM
Arriva do not like running into Brum for some reason, the only buses they operate are from the Tamworth area, I remember back in 1986 they upped the frequency to every 20 minutes on the 154 156 I have a timetable of it somewhere, then there was the moterway links X1,X31,X32, X33, X34,X86, X87, X89 all operated from Cannock, Walsall, Wolverhampton area back then now there is nothing. Still thing there is a demand for a service between Cannock & Brum but nobody seems to want to take it, thing the 156 could make more money for Diamond to run it Brum-Aldridge-Brownhills(missing out the back Roads)-Brownhills(missing out Newtown)-Cannock via A5.
Even back then congestion on the M6 was a problem, far worse now...
PD1098350/6 - B P BROWN TRAVEL LTD T/A SELECT BUS SERVICES, 2 NAGINGTON DRIVE, PENKRIDGE, STAFFORD, ST19 5TA
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Stafford, Chell Road and Stafford, Goal Square given service number 8 effective from 11-Nov-2015.
Will the 877 and 878 be withdrawn? I just want to ask just to make sure because I read on here (http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/bus/servicechanges/ServiceChangesPages/25October.aspx) and it says "Rolling Solutions". I have never heard of that operator, they might make an error or not? Anyone could clarify would be appreciated.
I post in here because as far as I'm aware Select operates these routes. :)
Thanks.
D&G bus is Rolling Solutions
Rolling Solutions Ltd. trading as D&G Bus. Registered in England no. 6918592. VAT Reg. No. 978 489 043.
Originally Select was operating 1 vehicle on the route and Rolling Solutions 2 (Enviro's).
As reported by Winston on August 25th
"PD1098350/1 - B P BROWN TRAVEL LTD T/A SELECT BUS SERVICES, 2 NAGINGTON DRIVE, PENKRIDGE, STAFFORD, ST19 5TA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Stafford and Wolverhampton given service number 878/877 effective from 26-Oct-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
PD1098350/3 - B P BROWN TRAVEL LTD T/A SELECT BUS SERVICES, 2 NAGINGTON DRIVE, PENKRIDGE, STAFFORD, ST19 5TA
Cancellation Accepted by SN: Operating between Cannock Bus Station and Hednesford given service number 23/23A effective from 25-Sep-2015.
Associated:
PD1128125/1 - ROLLING SOLUTIONS LTD T/A D & G BUS, THE WELLINGTON, 78 HIGH STREET, UTTOXETER, ST14 7JD
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Gaol Square, North Walls, Stafford and Lichfield Street, Wolverhampton given service number 877/878 effective from 26-Oct-2015."
Rolling Solutions are coming off the 877/878 but Select will be continuing to operate it.
Thank you for the information,
@busfan2847. :)
Saw service 67 at 16:40 heading down the a5 towards gailey slightly off route
Maybe the bus had a problem occur and had to return to the depot? doesnt mean its 'off route' does it?
The bus wasn't saying sorry not in service it actually had 67 and its destanation
that doesnt mean a thing lol, ive seen engineers/drivers from other companies taking buses to depot without changing the destination lol
maybe it was on its way back to garage. I'm sure ive seen select use the filling stations to refuel on the a5 too
I'll second that Jamie engineer's very seldom think about changing the blinds their minds always "get back to depot & sort out the problem" & to be fair that's what they're paid for.
How are you getting on with the 9 in Highfields, have heard arriva have tried all things to get rid of you. Also who is:responsible for Goal Square bus station there is no mention of your services or any other operater,s on the bus stops or timetables only arriva surely that,s not right
Arriva seem to think they own gaol square and i dare say info was pulled down same as natex info was
Very strange how other operators info goes missing or covered over by another's.
It's the ghost of staffordshire. Someone call most haunted ☺
Strange how arrivas timetables don't dissappear though
Quote from: Steveminor on November 10, 2015, 07:03:52 PM
It's the ghost of staffordshire. Someone call most haunted ☺
She's down under!
too true
@Steveminor and even Arriva staff members say to public they own the bus station
Yeah they try & tell other operators that too & don't forget cannock where they're kind enough to let other companies in.
oh yes cant forget cannock where they have that **grits teeth** very helpful man 'supervising' the bus station
Maybe they manage it on behalf of the council. They do manage lichfield bus station on behalf of lichfield council
No its managed by the council
Just a thought lol
but if they managed it on behalf of the council, it still dont make it their bus station
Sorry I still can't stop laughing at the thought of Arriva managing anything
lol especially with minions theyve gave the job to
Durrr let's register a route now cancel it before its started & let's change the network f $/k it up then change it back again. Durrr our mommies say we're clever durr
Quote from: LG on November 11, 2015, 04:26:57 PM
Maybe they manage it on behalf of the council. They do manage lichfield bus station on behalf of lichfield council
Lichfield bus station is an embarrassment! 1970s bus stands, benches where the wood has sagged so badly your almost sat on the ground and ancient manky public toilets!
Maybe they should do what they did to Hednesford bus station & knock it down.
Quote from: Steveminor on November 11, 2015, 07:50:02 PM
Maybe they should do what they did to Hednesford bus station & knock it down.
There are various development plans for the area including Lichfield bus station which do involve provision of a new facility, how far into the future I don't know.
They've been saying that for years re lichfield
Quote from: Bob on November 11, 2015, 09:16:11 PM
They've been saying that for years re lichfield
Maybe, but a planning application might be being submitted later in the year.
http://visitfriarsgate.co.uk/masterplan/
Might be a good thing for Lichfield. Some big name shops etc. Cannock is supposed to be having a brand new shopping centre on mill green site
Are the envrio's all still with select as
Rolling solutions have withdraw the service but select I know have 1 in fleet livery
There are 2 out regularly the painted 09 and a white 59 one. The other 56 plate one I've not seen for months.
56 plate is still with Select Bus
PD1098350/5 - B P BROWN TRAVEL LTD T/A SELECT BUS SERVICES, 2 NAGINGTON DRIVE, PENKRIDGE, STAFFORD, ST19 5TA
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Stafford, Goal Square and Stafford, Goal Square given service number 9 effective from 05-Feb-2016.
Is T442 EBD DDA compliant? If not, it'll be a pity as this vehicle and batch of vehicles really are nice!
@DiamondDart - I am not sure if T442 EBD is DDA compliant. However from looking at photos on flickr it does not seem to be DDA compliant. But i am not 100% sure. Maybe they will convert it to DDA compliant (or maybe they already have).
T442EBD is NOT DDA compliant
Cheers Jamie, do you know if it's being withdrawn or DDA converted? Cheers! ;)
mot sure whats happening with it
Quote from: Busman Jamie on January 03, 2016, 11:17:35 AM
mot sure whats happening with it
Fingers crossed it's kept going a bit ;) It's pretty immaculate inside and out and hides its age pretty well! Would be a shame if it was withdrawn
@DiamondDart @Busman Jamie - Yes it would be nice if they converted T442 EBD to DDA compliant. I suppose we will have to wait and see.
you have to take alot into consideration though, i agree its a nice dart, my favourite 1 alongside Y705TGH but you never know what will happen
@Busman Jamie - Yes it will be interesting to see if it gets converted to DDA compliant. Is Y705 TGH currently DDA compliant. I am guessing that it probably is but i am not 100% sure.
Yes Y705TGH is compliant
@Busman Jamie - Thanks for the info. That is good to hear.
YX59BXZ has passed to Centrebus in Leicester.
It's a loan to CB
Anyone know what's happened to T442 EBD, withdrawn/stored/scrapped? Thanks
I think it's withdrawn and will prob be scrapped due to been non DDA compliant
Quote from: Busman Jamie on May 10, 2016, 08:17:58 PM
I think it's withdrawn and will prob be scrapped due to been non DDA compliant
Pity! But inevitable I know! Thanks for the info
My favourite dart too, would of been an ideal preservation project IMO
sn56ayb now back out and about in select livery.
Select sn56 broken down on new RD featherstone. Seen being hooked upto coach AIDS tow truck. This bus seems rather work shy!
Quote from: 900 on June 15, 2016, 12:13:41 PM
Select sn56 broken down on new RD featherstone. Seen being hooked upto coach AIDS tow truck. This bus seems rather work shy!
I think the bus might be a bit infected.
I think they have enough buses for the services they run unless they are replacing some of the fleet
Quote from: Solo1 on August 01, 2016, 12:53:09 PM
I think they have enough buses for the services they run unless they are replacing some of the fleet
J722GAP is the only non DDA bus on fleet. I am also curious what will replace that if anything.
Quote from: A R R I V A : S I on August 01, 2016, 03:40:48 PM
To be honest i really dont like decker ( J722 GAP ) really keen to know if it will get replaced ( 2 0 1 6 )
Well it will have to be by the end of the year... If they need a decker which obviously they do then probably by another decker. Shame, J722GAP is an absolute monster!
j722gap is hellfire! I bet select will miss this after dda rules stop it from being in everyday use. I bet its their most reliable bus.
Quote from: Cheese on August 01, 2016, 04:43:20 PM
Well it will have to be by the end of the year... If they need a decker which obviously they do then probably by another decker. Shame, J722GAP is an absolute monster!
I agree with that!
PD1098350/7 - B P BROWN TRAVEL LTD T/A SELECT BUS SERVICES, 2 NAGINGTON DRIVE, PENKRIDGE, STAFFORD, ST19 5TA
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Penkridge, Crown Bridge
Finish Point: Wolverhampton, Stafford Street
Via: Coven, Fordhouses
Service Number: 876
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 04-SEP-2016
Other Details: Monday to Friday
Where can I find j722 gap?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 10, 2016, 04:04:00 PM
Where can I find j722 gap?
Generally parked outside Stafford Police station at around 13:00, certainly was today which suggests it usually does the 11:00 ish 878 from Wolves, and the 13:35 back from Stafford.
Select Bus are going to run a 3 service Wolverhampton - Fordhouse. It will operate "Iregularly".
Also, confirmation of Select running 876 service. (Hourly Monday - Friday)
Both the 3 and 876 are on Traveline - shown as operated by Arriva!
Red envrio on 67 2 far to id
Quote from: Solo1 on August 23, 2016, 03:16:51 PM
Red envrio on 67 2 far to id
That's the normal bus now for the 67.
According to the September Staffordshire bus news Select will be operating the 11 in Stafford - can't spot a registration, but the 876/7 has a change which perhaps includes it?
How much is a child single from wolves to Stafford?
The 11 registration has appeared today and the timetable is on traveline, which now has the 3 and 876 shown correctly too.
will select be acquiring more buses to run the 876/3/11 services from Monday?
Looking at the fleet list, taking into account that SN56AYB is now 2 and YX59BXY D&G 118, while YX59BXZ was still with Centrebus three weeks ago, it appears there will be 9 buses for a PVR of 7
YX59BXY, has never been with select bus, exactly just BXZ which is on loan to Centrebus
saw today a new no.4 x546ggo on the 11 in Stafford, and a new no.7 x248pgt on 3/876. no.10 the decker was also seen on 876/3 service. have select got any other services/buses does anyone know.
Yes, new 8 is X246PGT another Mini Pointer Dart recently withdrawn by D&G and operating on the 878 today in D&G two tone red.
The DD was on the 11.40 876 from Penkridge today - my guess was doing a swop saves the need to change over buses on route to get it on both Wolgarston school turns, but that would mean the 11.00 877 into Wolverhampton doing the 10.57 876 to Penkridge.
Today the Double Decker was on the 10.57 876 from Wolverhampton and the 11.40 876 from Penkridge - like yesterday.
The 09.35 877 from Stafford and 11.01 878 from Wolverhampton was a single decker.
PD1098350/1 - B P BROWN TRAVEL LTD T/A SELECT BUS SERVICES, 2 NAGINGTON DRIVE, PENKRIDGE, STAFFORD, ST19 5TA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Stafford and Wolverhampton given service number 878/877 effective from 12-Nov-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.
PD1098350/7 - B P BROWN TRAVEL LTD T/A SELECT BUS SERVICES, 2 NAGINGTON DRIVE, PENKRIDGE, STAFFORD, ST19 5TA
Variation Accepted: Operating between Penkridge, Crown Bridge and Wolverhampton, Stafford Street given service number 876/3 effective from 09-Nov-2016. To amend Route, Stopping Places and Timetable.
Revised timetable on the 11 from Monday, some journeys now runing as 73 to Walton.
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That said the only evidence for the existence of the service in Stafford anyway seems to be a note stuck to the timetable rack in the tourist information office saying they don't have any timetables!
The select timetables on Nwm need updating
Select's new route in Stafford is a combination of Arriva's route 2, Stafford to Walton, cancelled at the end of 2014 and route 3 Stafford to Wildwood, cancelled this year. Notice I've seen doesn't show a route number but has a timetable which shows 2 buses a day 5 days a week. This is exactly what Arriva were asked to consider and turned down. As yet Staffs CC bus timetable web site doesn't show any detail of this new service and sadly so far the local press haven't written about it, I suppose the old saying bad news, cancellation of services, sells papers whilst good news, introduction of new services doesn't.
Quote from: Solo1 on October 08, 2016, 09:28:17 PM
The select timetables on Nwm need updating
Which ones? As of last week the correct timetables were on Traveline. Why do they need updating?
877 came in at 14.30 876 came In about 1500 this was on a Saturday yet on the timetable
It says 877 1500 & 876 no Saturday service
Quote from: Solo1 on October 09, 2016, 01:48:17 PM
877 came in at 14.30 876 came In about 1500 this was on a Saturday yet on the timetable
It says 877 1500 & 876 no Saturday service
876 doesn't run on a Saturday, times on Traveline based on the registration. 877 is at 1405 so probably running late.
current fleet, assuming 5 and 6 still owned appears to be
1 SK52OHZ
2 SN56AYB
3 SK52OHX
4 X546GGO
5 X184BNH
6 Y705TGH
7 X248PGT
8 X246PGT
9 WA09FHK (I noticed on Friday this appears to have seatbelts)
10 J722GAP
X184BNH?? Long gone and you missed YX59BXZ
Quote from: Busman Jamie on October 09, 2016, 04:41:55 PM
X184BNH?? Long gone and you missed YX59BXZ
when will the envrio be painted
Quote from: Cheese on October 09, 2016, 02:31:55 PM
876 doesn't run on a Saturday, times on Traveline based on the registration. 877 is at 1405 so probably running late.
the 876 does run on Saturday just traveline have got it wrong, there is a prober timetable at crown bridge will try to take a photo & upload it on here when I am next there
Quote from: Cheese on October 09, 2016, 02:31:55 PM
876 doesn't run on a Saturday, times on Traveline based on the registration. 877 is at 1405 so probably running late.
I saw the 1405 one it was 1 of the X reg then 1430 one to Brewood &3pm 876 to Stafford
Quote from: Solo1 on October 09, 2016, 04:50:42 PM
when will the envrio be painted
Has it come back from Centrebus - it was still there on 12th September.
Still on loan to CB
Quote from: Busman Jamie on October 10, 2016, 08:15:12 PM
Still on loan to CB
when is the envrio set to return from centrebus
X546GGO seems to be the only vehicle used on the Stafford route 11. It appears on the D & G fleet list as their 185 but not on the Select fleet list.
Its not on D&G's official fleetlist.
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I admit I didn't look on their website only on the fleet list on this one.
Today's TfWM e-mail says the Saturday 876 starts w/c 6th November, and there is a variation in vosa on both 9th and 17th.
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The original publication in N&P definitely says Monday to Friday, which strangely wasn't published until a month after the 15th July date given by the on-line search.
Staffordshire County Council's excellent site has the Saturday times:-
https://apps2.staffordshire.gov.uk/scc/bustimes/default.aspx?Route=876&Line=04876&Filter=1
Only runs Penkridge to stafford on at Saturday
From 12th November though. Still nothing regarding the current Saturday service.
New combined Select/D&G/Midland Classic timetable has been published dated 24th October, although Select timetable 876 is more recent than that as it includes the Saturday 876 extension to Bungham Lane.
Staffordshire have also put departure timetables up in Goal Square.
Where has the new combined Select/D&G/Midland Classic timetable dated 24th October been published ?
By published I mean a hard copy is available - I got mine from Stafford tourist information.
There also available on the buses, just ask the driver
wonder if select will replace the decker at the end of the year with a dda one?
Is the decker used on weekends still?
No not unless it really has to be
2 enviros
2 smaller darts
Quote from: mranon on November 17, 2016, 10:43:21 PM
wonder if select will replace the decker at the end of the year with a dda one?
I asked J722 GAP's driver today and he said no, but it will be kept for suitable duties.
Quote from: derningtona on December 14, 2016, 03:43:24 PM
I asked J722 GAP's driver today and he said no, but it will be kept for suitable duties.
can't it be used for schools next year or does the dda rule apply still
Quote from: derningtona on December 14, 2016, 03:43:24 PM
I asked J722 GAP's driver today and he said no, but it will be kept for suitable duties.
What route was it on?
What it's always on....
876
J722 GAP is usually on the 10.05 876 from Wolverhampton, 11.08 from Stafford etc.
J722 GAP was still on the 13.08 876 from Stafford today.
And J722GAP will be on the same tomorrow, the next day and the day after that
Quote from: Busman Jamie on December 20, 2016, 05:37:29 PM
And J722GAP will be on the same tomorrow, the next day and the day after that
What are the fares?
Depends where your travelling from and to and can't give accurate price because I've not got a ticket machine at my house lol
It may be dirty inside and rattle a bit, but it still performs well, and there is no need to qualify that with "for its age".
Is this the last Gardner engined bus on regular stage carriage service in the area? There can't be many left in the whole country!
Will any of the enviro 200's be on the 67 after Christmas
It would be a change from all the old darts
Enviros have operated 67 previously, the 'old darts' as you put it,suit the 67 quite well, especially around fordhouses, many a time I've had a battle round there and only just got a MPD through so an e200 I'd of had no chance
j722gap's days in everyday service are numbered.......wonder what will replace it come 1st jan 2017. also not seen the ex Lothian darts out lately, especially no.3
What has happened to YK59 BXZ
The Ex Lothian darts are still on fleet, YX59BXZ was reported some time ago as been on loan to Centrebus
Serious question: do they give change?
D&G have just deleted some of their older Darts (and added YJ08PJU/V, previously hired), so maybe one of the Darts will turn up here?
When are they going to update selects fleet page
Quote from: BusMan Greg on December 21, 2016, 07:46:51 PM
When are they going to update selects fleet page
Over Christmas.
I am working on lots of them at the moment
How can you add pictures to the fleet lists
Quote from: BusMan Greg on December 21, 2016, 07:57:07 PM
How can you add pictures to the fleet lists
You can't. It's my website.
If you have any of vehicles that I don't you can email them to me at tony@wmbusphotos.com and if they show either vehicles I don't have, or vehicles that have changed appearance since my last photo I will probably add them as long as they are of reasonable quality.
I know some other people have sent me photos in the last couple of months which I haven't used yet.....sorry. I do still have them but are way behind after a very busy three months at work and my holiday. I am hoping to get up to date with fleetlists and a lot of photo additions in the next two weeks
Thanks I was just wondering
The fleet list isn't really that wrong,
1 SK52OHZ
2 SN56AYB
3 SK52OHX
4 X546GGO
5 not sure
6 Y705TGH
7 X248PGT
8 X246PGT
9 WA09FHK
10 J722GAP
YX59BXZ
Cheers
The Olympian is amazing, less rattles than the new e200s!!!
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 22, 2016, 02:13:45 PM
The Olympian is amazing, less rattles than the new e200s!!!
They aren't in the same league. But the fleet is looked after I can assure you.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on December 22, 2016, 02:28:34 PM
They aren't in the same league. But the fleet is looked after I can assure you.
Drivers seem very friendly too.
Quote from: Busman Jamie on December 20, 2016, 05:37:29 PM
And J722GAP will be on the same tomorrow, the next day and the day after that
Yes. Remember that route 876's last day of operation is 23 December until after the holidays!
What routes can I find 4 and 2? Thanks
4 11
2 876
spotted d&g bus 11 cnz2250 I think on the 877/878 service today. is this the replacement for the decker?
Still shown on D&Gs official fleetlist as their 181.
If it was a replacement the D&G fleet names would of been removed and the big clue to why it's on 877/8 is the 'this bus is on hire' notice amd it's 181 not 11
What bus is off the road to have a D&G bus on loan
busman Jamie - I only spotted it last minute, and I googled the reg as I didn't catch fleet number. where I was stood, I wouldn't have been able to see any notice.
Staffordshire CC showing a revised 876 service from Feb 2nd, reduced to two-hourly, with the Saturday service withdrawn.
Is the d&g 181 still on loan to select
No, been gone about 3 weeks
Is there any news of a replacement
Replacement for what? Nothing has left the fleet, all services are covered with a couple of spare vehicles
The enviro is now on the 67 on some days of the week
Only the 56 plate enviro
Yes the enviro does do the 67 sometimes amd yes only the 56 plate because the 09 plate is allocated the 877/8
The 09 plate has been on before but it is a rare sight
Yes? When it was first painted
What has happened to V509 NOF was it scrapped/preserved/sold
V509NOF is long gone, hence why X546GGO is now number 4
Thanks I'm just interested because ima new member
Why?
saw no.1 out today, managed a pic with rear add too. any sign of the other ex Lothian spd returning to service soon?
1 has been out for a few weeks, rear ad has been on for some time
Nice profile picture of tgh on route 11
Wasn't on route 11 lol, I was abit off route for the 11, it's on 67 where it's been all week, put 11 on for a pic before I started service
Oh still good picture
travel express run 2 darts of the y tgh batch. the select one is in much better cosmetic condition
Yes y705 tgh is a reliable bus
T.e best tgh dart is the 1 that's always on 32
that might be their best driver but not bus, it got no go in it,
The driver is sound, always seems fine when I've followed it into wolves
How many drivers do select have
Just found this their own website https://www.selectbusservices.com/news
Yeah?
This one step up for select maybe more drivers
One step up? What do you mean?
To make it a bit more easy for job seekers to get in touch with the boss
Just a quick one does Martin still work for Select nice chap i always used to speak to him when i saw him in Cannock on the 67 not seen him for along time always told me what was happening at Select i was always first to know also any new buses coming soon.
He told me he was working in the office but he drives when a driver is ill or off
Oh that's why i've not seen him then thanks
I'll remember you to him, never heard him mention somebody called brain though
Tell him Brain from Sankey's Corner in Burntwood he will who i am.
Was Martin the host of the SBS profile
No
Ok
You could always rely on Martin to be on time he is great
to be fair, ive found most drivers are on time on the 67.
Yes I agree is this the same on the 878
I go to Cannock a fair bit for appointments but don't go to Stafford as a rule so wouldn't know about 878 etc.
Ok because I go on the 67 everyday
I either get a lift or use the 70 mainly (unless it breaks down or is late then I pay to use an alternative) I remember a while back there was a occasional young chap who used to drive the 67, but he used to give some proper hellfire lol.
Hellfire in a dart?? Sounds interesting
The 67 is my only route I catch and tgh new seats are better than the abbelo London seats
I was in Wolverhampton sometime in November and I saw sn56 ayb at the bus stop outside the art gallery with its breakdown lights on with no driver to be seen
Could of gone to the toilet
Breakdown lights? There actually called hazard lights
breakdown lights pmsl!!!!
Yes sorry
If hazard lights are break down lights, what does that make indicators lol
dunno busman Jamie, but well done to driver in no.1 today, they were turning off Lichfield st bus stop, and it was a tight manouvere, the backend caught an annoying womans shopping trolley and knocked it over lol. think her eggs were scrambled hehe!
been thinking, has the lady driver left select now
I think she is back at Arriva a lot of new faces at select now all the old one's that i knew have left.
yes, I don't recognise many of them now, still see the one that looks like desperate dan is still there
Was that a dig at me??!!
Angila is now at arriva
What has happened to that older lady who hardly drives
if you mean me, I mean the chap that originally came to select to do the brewood to wolves who used to work for green bus service for years
Are we playing guess who?
Who's the bald guy with a beard who drove the Olympian for ages??
reminds me of right said fred lol. think he too was an ex green bus driver. great guy though.
What has happened to the drive with the moustache
Guess Who??I don't have a clue who any of them are lol
does every bus have the new ticket machines now not the almex ones
Yes
Thanks
There was a hellfire in sn56 ayb today down Hilton road but I heard a few speed bumps hit lol
Hellfire on Holton Road, must of been no parked cars there then!
What happened to the double decker??
Seriously??
What does S . V . B stand for
SN56 AYB SK52 OHX Y705 TGH
I've drove the fleet but my personal favourite is 6 Y705TGH, ID take her any route if I could lol
Well due to DDA the decker can't be used
Well I've had SN56AYB all day and NO hellfire!!!
Lol you still had cannock on the blind going to brinsford
hellfire on Hilton road, got to be having a larf!!!
Before I get pms with regards bus 5, I have no clue if there's a replacement due
I wonder if select will attend any bus shows this year
Just saw X545 GGO on the 67
Why are comments being deleted
Quote from: BusMan Greg on March 05, 2017, 02:03:28 PM
Why are comments being deleted
S.V.B has deleted all their own posts.
Oh why
Quote from: S . V . B on March 06, 2017, 01:15:56 PM
OK thanks tony will do
Sorry about my O.C.D i
cannot really help it as
have had O.C.D 15 year
it can be bit nightmare
Its ok I understand I have autism my self and a bit of ocd
Why? X246/8PGT have been out the past couple of days on 877/8, X546GGO was on 67 Saturday?
X546 GGO seems to be the bus of choice for the 2 routes run Monday to Friday in Stafford.
I wonder why I think its no.8 one of the x pgt darts will be painted into fleet livery as the other x pgt and the x cgo one
Is the X/CGO a new addition to the fleet? Lol
I think k they are all scrap due to dda rules
All scrapped and saw further use as coke cans
Are Y705 TGH new seats from V509 NOF
Just noticed 1 going up new road on the 67 after SN56 AYB has been on all day what is happening with the 67
Nothings happening with the 67? Amd if the seats on 6 at out of 4 there not new lol
Do you know why there is no 1 or 3 on the 1625 67 from Cannock when SN56 AYB has been on all day
Because 1 comes off Wolgarston school, finishes at Wheaton Aston and does the 16.30 67
Oh thanks
It's not me
@SI why can't I message u a as private message
Select had a go at the No 9 Highfields service in competition with Arriva and fairly quickly gave it up. I suppose it depends on whether Select want to expand or stay a small, but pretty good company with the niche market that they have now. To expand into Stafford, if or should I say when, Arriva pull out of the town services, would require a doubling of Select's fleet and as, apart from early morning and afternoon services the users are pretty much concession holders I'm not sure if the investment would be worth it.
There's not a bus that "regularly" breaks down? They have silly little things like most buses do but nit break downs, can't really say for example I prefer to travel on bus 8 rather than bus 7 because to me there the same, driving them hiw ever is different, there all nice to drive but I'd take 6 over any of them or the decker!
6 is my least favourite. like the ex Lothian spd's as they are different and don't have whiny Alison box. the decker was just pure hellfire, especially when the bald chap was driving it. wonder what will happen to the decker now.
Why ex arriva?
1 on stafford local others 876 877 878
SK52OHZ 876
X546GGO 877/8
X246PGT 877/8
X248PGT 11
Someone has made a select livery for the C400R and eclipse 1.5 but is not out yet
A picture of the repaint is on Flickr
Not sure I understand either of the last two postings.
.
But what I had actually intended to post was that D&G have published a new edition of their timetable still titled North Staffordshire and Stoke but incorporating Select timetables as well as their own and Midland Classic services to Uttoxeter ,formerly in a seperate leaflet "in mid-Staffordshire"
I'm on about omsi 2. Someone has made a repaint of select
Got a link?
Here's the link https://www.flickr.com/photos/101550299@N05/34384078661/in/photolist-UopoEr-Uvq3Za-kXHR8v-pra8n6-NNvwkm-RC7uVD-HqwNJK-fA2BKE-dxHVeN-phXZVH-nwTcnh-dWhYii-RecVXh-agH6TA-MQr1pW-Qg7VZE-qfT8DR-rtXdHu-GA1Ft9-NUxVHq-NM3uGE-xajMmf-NMsC9q-NMsB2W-f5i9b8
It looks very good
it should be out soon apparently
What do you think of it
Can we please keep a personal conversation about fantasy things to personal messages or a separate fantasy topic and keep this to conversations about real things.
Thanks
Quote from: Kevin on May 27, 2017, 09:59:44 AM
This ticket that is valid for Central Buses, Midland Classic, D&G and Select....
Do Midland Classic actually sell it? Or is it just a Central Buses ticket that's valid on other companies?
I only ask because I found out to my cost this morning that Select Buses don't and kinda ruined my plans for the day lol...
Quote from: andy41 on May 27, 2017, 10:15:08 AM
They all sell it. Unfortunately you've probably come across a driver who's never been asked for one or hasn't been briefed, they always exist with any company.
Ok curious now
(above copied from Midland Classic thread)
Someone from Select on here confirm or deny they sell this ticket?
Driver was aware of it's existence but fairly insistent that they don't sell it and that I wouldn't want to travel on his bus to Stafford lol
PD1098350/7 Cancelled
B P BROWN TRAVEL LTD
Route: Penkridge, Crown Bridge to Wolverhampton, Stafford Street via Coven, Fordhouses
Service number: 876 (3)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 25 Jul 2017
So the 876 has been cancelled
If so I had a idea that the 876 wouldn't last long tbh
Also what as happened to Y705 TGH it hasn't been on the 67 for weeks we have really only had X248 PGT and SN56 AYB
Nothing has happened to Y705TGH
Is it on the 877/8 or just a spare
877/8 although made a rare appearance on 876 just last week
Really it's good to give it a good thrash down the A449 for a change
Thrash? Through roadworks no chance
Oh yes I forgot about the roadworks lol still a shame the 876 is being cancelled
SK52 OHZ made a rare appearance on the day service 67 didn't find out what bus was doing the 1625 67 that OHZ usually does after getting of the wobarston school run
OHZ always does the 16.30 journey on the 67?
And OHZ was the regular bus on 67 at one point
What I meant was on Friday it was doing the normal 67 not the 1630 one which usually has OHZ on it also will any different buses be on the 67 this week because we don't seem to be having the usual buses on as much we are having X248 PGT And some others that are usually on the 877/8
Normally 2 SN56AYB or 7 X248PGT On the 67
always thought 6 was the 67 bus lol. not seen 9 about for a bit, is that why 7 is on 878/7?
I saw a picture of the depot a from a few weeks ago on Flickr and i saw that SK52 OHX's back bumper was removed
6 is on 877/8 has been for a while
Do you know what bus is on the 67 tomorrow not trying to be a pain
WA09 FHK has been on the 67 for the past couple of days much prefer it to SN56 AYB
Why? There the same just different seats?
Quote from: BusMan Greg on February 28, 2017, 09:29:13 PM
Sorry about these random posts having a bit of trouble posting and editing comments
Fleet no 2 - SN56 AYB unusual working on the Stafford 73 in place of regular X reg short Dart.
Quote from: Grinder on August 15, 2017, 11:01:18 AM
Fleet no 2 - SN56 AYB unusual working on the Stafford 73 in place of regular X reg short Dart.
A Select X reg short dart was on rail replacement from Tame Bridge Parkway to Walsall yesterday so if it's going to be used for the week that might explain it.
Quote from: WMT3000 on August 15, 2017, 12:31:50 PM
A Select X reg short dart was on rail replacement from Tame Bridge Parkway to Walsall yesterday so if it's going to be used for the week that might explain it.
I saw Y705TGH on rail replacement as well this morning
None of the X reg darts are on rail, just 6 Y705TGH
Quote from: Busman Jamie on August 15, 2017, 03:03:05 PM
None of the X reg darts are on rail, just 6 Y705TGH
Just checked my photo and it was indeed Y705TGH. Only took a quick snap before i jumped on and in my hurry i thought it was x reg - my apologies.
No worries... Was it yesterday you took a pic? Pulling out of station street?
Quote from: Busman Jamie on August 16, 2017, 12:16:25 AM
No worries... Was it yesterday you took a pic? Pulling out of station street?
It was early afternoon Monday when i photo'd it but it was at Tame Bridge Parkway.
Would of been me then lol
PD1098350/11 Registered
B P BROWN TRAVEL LTD
Route: Wolverhampton, Pipers Row to Burton upon Trent, Boots Distribution Centre via Wednesbury, Walsall
Service number: X61
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 30 Oct 2017
Saw MPD 5 Y265YBC in Stafford at lunchtime in full Select livery, don't know how long this has been with Select Bus?
About 3 months
What service is y265 normally on thanks
is no.3 still in use, not seen it about for a while
Y265YBC is like all the others and can be found anywhere and SK52OHX is still here
What buses are used on the 12's and the X61's
SN56AYB and SK52OHZ are on 67/12 and nothing on the X61 as it hasn't started yet
Nice to see that select will be operating in lichfield even though it is only two journeys per day
I noticed that since Monday there has been no ticket machines in selects buses
'no ticket machines in select buses'..... Makes me wonder what that gadget was on my bus last night issuing tickets...?
You been issuing tickets out of thin air again jamie
It's the magic wand that's been left in the cab lol
Bit of help please. Has the ex D & G Dart Y265YBC been given a fleet number and is the AD Dart YX 59 BXZ still in the fleet and if so what fleet number (photo in white amongst those for this operator in the photo section). Thanks to anyone who can help.
Y265YBC is 5, as stated when first mentioned here.
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YX59BXZ is I believe with Centrebus.
Select fleet is as follows
1 SK52OHZ
2 SN56AYB
3 SK52OHX
4 X546GGO
5 Y265YBC
6 Y705TGH
7 X248PGT
8 X246PGT
9 WA09FHK
10 J722GAP
YX59BXZ Is at Centrebus where it's been for about 2 years
Thanks Guys
Would I be right in thinking that 3 (SK52 OHX) and 10 (J722 GAP) are both currently out of use or withdrawn ?
Both still on fleet, 10 J722GAP goes out everyday on FH1
Are select still doing the X61 as there is no longer a timetable on there website
Quote from: BusMan Greg on January 02, 2018, 09:01:54 PM
Are select still doing the X61 as there is no longer a timetable on there website
yes to the 5 jan done a goggle search
Read elsewhere that Select now have an Optare Solo M850 MX54KYF. Can anyone confirm this.
Hmmm who knows
Im at the yard now and it's a solo free zone...
Quote from: Grinder on January 20, 2018, 11:40:29 AM
Read elsewhere that Select now have an Optare Solo M850 MX54KYF. Can anyone confirm this.
I heard coastal liner have a solo so could be with them now
Quote from: Grinder on January 20, 2018, 11:40:29 AM
Read elsewhere that Select now have an Optare Solo M850 MX54KYF. Can anyone confirm this.
D and G bus have sister opt are solo MX54 KYE in their yard.
The fleet number for MX54 KYE is 9 so maybe they're both for Select
The solo in d&g yard is indeed on loan and will soon be heading for select with the fleet number 9
It won't be number 9...... Select already have a number 9 WA09FHK
Quote from: Busman Jamie on January 24, 2018, 05:00:29 PM
It won't be number 9...... Select already have a number 9 WA09FHK
I don't know too much about select so maybe you're correct but the solo has had a recent respray and the number 9 sticker applied since
could it be they are swapping the enviro no.9 ?
Quote from: mranon on January 25, 2018, 03:00:20 PM
could it be they are swapping the enviro no.9 ?
Well d&g have WA09 FHK
No they don't - D&G have WA09 FHL. Select still have WA09 FHK - it passed me on the 877 two hours ago
Quote from: Hector on January 25, 2018, 07:57:49 PM
No they don't - D&G have WA09 FHL. Select still have WA09 FHK - it passed me on the 877 two hours ago
Sorry my typo. Got them the wrong way around. D&G fleet number 109 is indeed WA09 FHL
WA09FHK is NOT leaving Select Bus for D&G, the solo was painted here (all red) prior to going on loan to D&G, when it returns it will lose the fleet number of 9 and be renumbered
so does that mean the solo will end up in the select fleet eventually
Read my previous comment....
Quote from: Grinder on January 20, 2018, 11:40:29 AM
Read elsewhere that Select now have an Optare Solo M850 MX54KYF. Can anyone confirm this.
Saw this Optare Solo in full Select livery (with fleetnames) today in Walsall on rail replacement duties.
Quote from: Busman Jamie on January 20, 2018, 01:33:03 PM
Im at the yard now and it's a solo free zone...
apart from this one
http://wmbusphotos.com/Select/MX54KYF.html
(It is actually on loan to Coastal Liner at the moment)
I do like solo's especially the ones at the former Midland company and I think MX54 will suit well on selects routes, especially the Stafford locals
Quote from: Busman Jamie on January 26, 2018, 06:05:14 PM
WA09FHK is NOT leaving Select Bus for D&G, the solo was painted here (all red) prior to going on loan to D&G, when it returns it will lose the fleet number of 9 and be renumbered
I thought the various references on this and the D&G thread were to one Solo, but the Solo which is currently D&G 9 is MX54 KYE, whilst the one in full Select livery and names which Tony photographed with Coastal liner yesterday and was in Stafford today is MX54 KYF.
Quote from: Hector on January 29, 2018, 07:31:15 PM
I thought the various references on this and the D&G thread were to one Solo, but the Solo which is currently D&G 9 is MX54 KYE, whilst the one in full Select livery and names which Tony photographed with Coastal liner yesterday and was in Stafford today is MX54 KYF.
Yes, it Appears Select have purchased both, and are loaning them out to different operators at the moment
KYF is back at Select Bus and has been on Stafford Town all day
Will these new buses be fleet numbers 11 and 12
No idea, they could replace darts but not sure
TBH if they was to replace the darts I don't know why because they all seem to be in good condition although OHZ has broken down a few times recently
OHZ has been fine when I've had it? When did it last break down?
2 or 3 weeks ago.
I seen all red MX54 KYE @ Stafford rail station this morning
Proberbly on 13's as it was the other day
Number 13???
D&G 13...
Select will be operating the 71 from April 1st.
PD1098350/12 Registered
B P BROWN TRAVEL LTD
Route: CANNOCK, BUS STATION to WOLVERHAMPTON, STAFFORD STREET via CHESLYN HAY ESSINGTON
Service number: 71
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 01 Apr 2018
PD1098350/1 Registered
B P BROWN TRAVEL LTD
Route: Stafford to Wolverhampton via Brewood
Service number: 878 (877)
Service type: Limited Stop, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 01 Apr 2018
Interesting but do they have enough buses
Ignore my last comment. It seems like arriva are withdrawing routes again
Wonder if the other solo. Will be used on the new 71 service
71 timetable on traveline.
Quote from: mikestone on February 23, 2018, 09:33:08 PM
71 timetable on traveline.
Typically useless Saturday timetable as per most of their services...
Useless how exactly?? And 'per other services'?? You obviously dont use our services...
Quote from: Busman Jamie on February 23, 2018, 11:19:58 PM
Useless how exactly?? And 'per other services'?? You obviously dont use our services...
I have used your services but they are of little use to me due to their irregular patterns and lack of adequate Saturday provision on most services.
Maybe not as many people use the bus on Saturday or drivers hours
Select bus solo parked at the coach & lorry park by Aston uni wonder what's it doing thete
The 878 is a tendered service so the service is dictated to scc requirements as is the 67
As for the 71, I believe if we never took on the service there would of been no service at all on a satutday as scc has removed funding off a number of satutfay services in Cannock so our 71 every 2 hours is better than no bus at all
I thought Staffs CC had only removed funding for evening & Sunday services?
Quote from: Westy on February 24, 2018, 03:11:01 PM
I thought Staffs CC had only removed funding for evening & Sunday services?
But Select have registered the 71 commercially so that contract for Arriva's 71 has also been removed.
I dont understand.
Arriva's depot is on the route anyway.
Where is Select based?
Penkridge
Quote from: Busman Jamie on February 24, 2018, 11:48:29 AM
The 878 is a tendered service so the service is dictated to scc requirements as is the 67
As for the 71, I believe if we never took on the service there would of been no service at all on a satutday as scc has removed funding off a number of satutfay services in Cannock so our 71 every 2 hours is better than no bus at all
I'm not on about the 878 or the 67 particularly, although the 877/878 is a good case in point with a very messy schedule.
Same as the 12, which again has a timetable that the average bus user would struggle to comprehend.
As for the 71, there is a 4 hour gap from Cannock between 1200 and 1600 according to Traveline. I'm sure that is going to do wonders for the patronage figures.
Quote from: Straightlines on February 25, 2018, 10:26:13 AM
I'm not on about the 878 or the 67 particularly, although the 877/878 is a good case in point with a very messy schedule.
Same as the 12, which again has a timetable that the average bus user would struggle to comprehend.
As for the 71, there is a 4 hour gap from Cannock between 1200 and 1600 according to Traveline. I'm sure that is going to do wonders for the patronage figures.
With some services it just has to be what the revenue it brings in supports. NX were going to withdraw the WN54 in April but with some clever scheduling meaning the PVR is reduced to two vehicles, and also some good negotiating by the commercial manager resposible for the route it is going to survive, but the timetable won't be perfect.
Quote from: Tony on February 25, 2018, 11:46:52 AM
With some services it just has to be what the revenue it brings in supports. NX were going to withdraw the WN54 in April but with some clever scheduling meaning the PVR is reduced to two vehicles, and also some good negotiating by the commercial manager resposible for the route it is going to survive, but the timetable won't be perfect.
Yes, I'm aware how scheduling services work.
Quote from: Straightlines on February 25, 2018, 12:07:24 PM
Yes, I'm aware how scheduling services work.
So why critisise an operator that is doing there best to provide a service with the resources available within the costs that no other operator will try, and coundils will not support
Was select running any services at all today. The 877/8 probably wasn't running was it
They were out and about in Stafford but then Stafford escaped the worst of the weather.
They was running yesterday to the best they could, same again today
Quote from: Tony on February 25, 2018, 11:46:52 AM
With some services it just has to be what the revenue it brings in supports. NX were going to withdraw the WN54 in April but with some clever scheduling meaning the PVR is reduced to two vehicles, and also some good negotiating by the commercial manager resposible for the route it is going to survive, but the timetable won't be perfect.
This is the fudge of widened headways used by many bus companies where routes are cost centres, rather than interworking with other routes and sharing an extra bus between four routes. Thus the cost of providing an hourly service is a quarter of a bus! I'm not a fan of franchising but one of its benefits is customer friendly clockface departures from terminals.
Quote from: JoNi on March 07, 2018, 05:04:12 PM
This is the fudge of widened headways used by many bus companies where routes are cost centres, rather than interworking with other routes and sharing an extra bus between four routes. Thus the cost of providing an hourly service is a quarter of a bus! I'm not a fan of franchising but one of its benefits is customer friendly clockface departures from terminals.
And you really think franchising would be able to afford the extra bus? specially as there's less chance of being able to do the interworking if other local routes are frachised to different operators.
The 54 Wolverhampton to Stafford is going to survive because NX are going to interwork the extra bus. If that route was franchised there is no way it would survive because the money just wouldn't be there for the third bus
A quick question about the new 71 service. I have looked at the timetable and it said it will serve Featherstone in the morning for a service to cheslyn hay high school. Is this replacing the 67 runs to the school or is it just a additional service
It's an additional service, service 67 will still operate the current timetable
Thanks for the info Busman Jamie also do you know if this route from featherstone to cheslyn hay high is something to do with NatEx's route 854. maybe an extra bus is needed to fit all of the students on. When i have went on it in the past it allways seemed overfull
Are Select & Nx the only operators between Wolves & Stafford from the beginning of April?
It will be interesting to see who will get the passengers, as Wolves Bus Station no longer stocks the non Nx out of Wm county timetable leaflets, so the only places to get Select info would be the internet, unless Select has leaflets on their buses?
I seen a notice earlier on bus no 1 and it said that timetable leaflets are available at wolves bus station, local libraries and the internet
Still no mention on the TfWM weekly list of the 71, despite the Arriva changes being published last week - I think it was actually registered before the Arriva cancellation!
Any ideas of what buses will appear on the route 71
Select buses I would imagine 😂
Maybe we may see travel express make a appearance lol
Solo MX54 KYE on the Stafford local services for the last 2 days replacing the normal no 4 - X546 GGO. No fleetname or number and no legal's as far as I could see. Looks a bit scruffy compared to others in the fleet being all over red with no darker red skirt. Anyone any idea if this and it's sister KYF are now formerly in the Select fleet and if so what fleet numbers they have are will be given.
X546 GGO was on the 67 yesterday after OHZ broke down on the new road in Featherstone
The two solos have been on fleet since last October bought from transdev
MX54 KYE was on loan to D&G and came back to us on the 31st March. The legals are displayed in the near side window ? The same place were D&G had there's. I wouldn't say it looked scruffy it just needs the burgundy band painting which we plan to do soon (hence paper legals)
Greg - SK52OHZ was on the way to essington not service 67, and we decided to swap buses on the new road. Number 4 has been on service 67 most of the week
Oh I assumed that it broke down because the select van was parked behind it. Also how are you getting on with the 71
I saw kye pass me other day, and today, you could quite clearly see the legals in the window. they both look quite smart, but it will look much better when in full livery. at least select have an identity, and try to keep their buses looking smart
My mistake, only looked for legals in normal place.
Was a nice surprise to see the solo that was on loan with d&g on 877 yesterday photo on my flickr site
It's been on a handful of times since its return same as the other one
Looking forward to seeing it in select livery
What is the new fleet number for the solo that was on loan with D&G. It was numbered 9 for some bizarre reason with d&g
12
Wouldn't say it was a 'bizzare' reason, proberbly to fit in with the D&G fleet
I say bizarre because d&g fleet numbers went from 100+.
Then the newer additions went from 30-54.
The loan buses were 1-3 apart from the solo which was numbered 9.
Perhaps they had a number 9 sticker spare lol
I seen a double decker in a red white black livery pulling into the select garage. The reg was BIG ....
Quote from: BusMan Greg on April 20, 2018, 04:37:42 PM
I seen a double decker in a red white black livery pulling into the select garage. The reg was BIG ....
sounds like the one coastal liner has
The reg didn't look BIG to me? Looked the same as a normal reg plate to me
It was BIG 8751 owned by coastal liner
I just seen a centre bus ex Lothian dart on the 71A. Is this on loan to select or is it a new buy
are these centrebus darts extra additions to the fleet, or are they replacements? will sk52ohx see service again?
You said 'Darts' is there more than just one??
SK52OHX isn't going anywhere? It's still on fleet
The centrebus dart what's it's reg & will it stay on 71 service
correct me if I'm wrong in saying the centrebus dart could of been SK52 OKE. Only got a brief glimpse of the reg
It is SK52 OKE, it's an addition, Number 3 is still on fleet.
Is it on loan or have you purchased it
As above, it's an addition to the fleet not a loan
Oh nice. I gather this bus will be fleet number 13.
I understand another is waiting collection from Luton.
It's, 552
Is it true what Mike stone said about another Is awaiting collection from luton
Quote from: BusMan Greg on May 07, 2018, 07:03:50 PM
Is it true what Mike stone said about another Is awaiting collection from luton
read the above message
He Did say 'another', that is why I asked
I am told the second one has arrived, at a guess SK52OJG, which was Centrebus 551.
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Oddly MX54KYE is still on D&G's official fleetlist.
They went from 9 buses to 15 in just under a year
MX 54 KYE is not on the D & G fleetlist it was removed sometime ago.
Taken just
Strange. Maybe the mobile site is different as it still appears on it today.
I see select have purchased some more of them ticketer machines due to the recent fleet arrivals
Not necessarily due to more buses joining the fleet...
I see select had been doing a 404 service between the county Showground and the railway station. Also I heard that back in 2013 select did the number 15 route between Lichfield and boney hay only briefly. Is this true or not
Yes we did operate a service 404 for the county show.
We have never operated the service 15. We used to operate a service 23 from 2013 until 2015
Is OKE being painted soon
I would of thought so
I have not seen it on the 71's this week
It's not been out
SK52OKE on the 12 today, just gone past the office, adding a touch of colour to Stafford!
SK52 OJG also now in service in Centrebus colours with a Centrebus fleet name on the offside and partial name on the nearside.
OJG hs been in service for a while
For anyone who's interested select bus 9 is on Lichfield to Birmingham rail replacement today
@ntw456 are you sure? I didn't see it 😂
Yes, Select 9 together with Midland Classic 1, 76, 77, 83, Centrebus 592 and Arriva 3003, 3005 and 3022 were all seen in Lichfield on rail replacement
Quote from: Busman Jamie on July 15, 2018, 06:05:54 PM
@ntw456 are you sure? I didn't see it 😂
I should hope so you we're driving 😂
Select are doing the cross city rail replacements on a Sunday for the next two weeks
Are we? First I've heard 😂 😂 😂
Any idea as to whether or not X 545 GGO is still in use. At one time it was the regular on the Stafford 11 and 73 but seems to have been replaced by Y 265 YBC. Also have SK 52 OKE and OGJ been allocated fleet numbers.
X546GGO is still on fleet, SK52OKE is 14, SK52OGJ is 15
Have 14 & 15 gone for paint
Not yet but soon they will be painted mate. OKE/14 will be first because OJG/15 has a stupid advert on the back
@Solo1 14 has been on 67 this week and 15 on FH1, they will be painted in due course
Ok thanks what's the chances of 15 been out on 71 or 67 878 thanks
There's more chance of elvis doing a live gig put it that way
Quote from: Busman Jamie on July 19, 2018, 08:13:36 PM
There's more chance of elvis doing a live gig put it that way
ok thanks thanks the 1 I need is 15
It will proberbly appear on other services when it's been painted
Quote from: 2206 on September 18, 2017, 06:04:10 PM
PD1098350/11 Registered
B P BROWN TRAVEL LTD
Route: Wolverhampton, Pipers Row to Burton upon Trent, Boots Distribution Centre via Wednesbury, Walsall
Service number: X61
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 30 Oct 2017
Select will be operating the X61 again this year:
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/525069/
Yes they will be. The only reason it was withdrawn in January this year was because the route is seasonal only, therefore it isn't required in the summer
Ex Centrebus Solo MX53 FEG in use on 877 today in Centrebus colours.
And a nice bus too, replaced Y705TGH which is now withdrawn
Quote from: Busman Jamie on September 28, 2018, 07:33:41 PM
And a nice bus too, replaced Y705TGH which is now withdrawn
not busman jamies favourite no.6 withdrawn!
Never mind.... Still got 15 to enjoy for a bit
If anyone's interested the X61 timetable can be found here
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.staffordshire.gov.uk/transport/publictransport/buses/docs/Select-Bus-X61.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj6h_-L1MXeAhUUQ8AKHWYzDYIQFjAGegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw0MSuntkubB-oLb55V96gd7
Quote from: BusMan Greg on November 08, 2018, 08:43:12 PM
If anyone's interested the X61 timetable can be found here
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.staffordshire.gov.uk/transport/publictransport/buses/docs/Select-Bus-X61.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj6h_-L1MXeAhUUQ8AKHWYzDYIQFjAGegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw0MSuntkubB-oLb55V96gd7
Wonder what buses they will be using if I use my maths skills it's an hour and 22 minutes
Quote from: BusMan Greg on November 08, 2018, 08:43:12 PM
If anyone's interested the X61 timetable can be found here
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.staffordshire.gov.uk/transport/publictransport/buses/docs/Select-Bus-X61.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj6h_-L1MXeAhUUQ8AKHWYzDYIQFjAGegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw0MSuntkubB-oLb55V96gd7
What kind of use is that timetable really?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 08, 2018, 09:39:32 PM
What kind of use is that timetable really?
To let people know what time the buses are..... No?
Quote from: Kevin on November 08, 2018, 09:48:25 PM
To let people know what time the buses are..... No?
2 journeys a day?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 08, 2018, 09:51:06 PM
2 journeys a day?
Its a works service.
I'd guess they are the times when the workers start and finish.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 08, 2018, 09:51:06 PM
2 journeys a day?
Probably People who want a day out its very Rare you get a service through Wolverhampton,wednesbury,Walsall straight to burton
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on November 08, 2018, 09:52:57 PM
Probably People who want a day out its very Rare you get a service through Wolverhampton,wednesbury,Walsall straight to burton
Its a works service for the Boots distibution centre in Burton.
2 journeys a day, morning and night
A day out to the Boots Distrinution Centre ye of course
Great run at night.... Plenty of time to go to maccies!!!
Does anyone know if you can buy the Midland Classic Day + ticket on board a Select bus, since it's valid on them?
Quote from: StourValley98 on December 07, 2018, 07:05:02 PM
Does anyone know if you can buy the Midland Classic Day + ticket on board a Select bus, since it's valid on them?
They don't sell it but just accept it.
How come select bus accept midland classic plus when midland classic don't serve Stafford
Why do Midland Classic need to serve Stafford? Is it not the ticket that's valid on MC, Select Bus & D&G?
Quote from: Busman Jamie on December 08, 2018, 12:33:38 AM
Why do Midland Classic need to serve Stafford? Is it not the ticket that's valid on MC, Select Bus & D&G?
forgot about d&g buses
spotted a new no.3 in the fleet. solo mx53feh so looks like the former wont see the road again
It's replaced old 3 SK52 OHX which is now used for spair parts for 1, 14 & 15
Quote from: BusMan Greg on January 21, 2019, 07:57:27 PM
It's replaced old 3 SK52 OHX which is now used for spair parts for 1, 14 & 15
Its a plaxton pointer so various parts can be used on the mpds
that's a shame, I never managed a photo of the spd no.3 obviously a troublesome bus. will similar 14 and 15 receive a repaint into livery
Quote from: mranon on January 23, 2019, 09:10:47 PM
that's a shame, I never managed a photo of the spd no.3 obviously a troublesome bus. will similar 14 and 15 receive a repaint into livery
Yes 14&15 will be painted into fleet liverey
Anyone see BA07GHA, reported in this months PSVC news sheets, ex Fairbrother, Warrington?
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Given the fact that all recent arrivals have come from Peddle associated companies it sounds unlikely.
Meaning?
Meaning no one has mentioned it, so is it shown in error?
I see what you mean, it's no error
BA07GHA is on the 12 today in Stafford painted in fleet livery. Couldn't see the fleet number from my vantage point. Plaxton Centro bodied VDL SB120.
Fleet number 4
Very smart it looks too. Presumably the previous 4 (X546 GGO) has now been withdrawn, I've not seen it in use for a while.
X546GGO not confirmed as withdrawn as such, I think it's a spare bus and can be used anytime,
not seen 9 out for a bit is it still on the fleet? the new additions look very smart, hope the ex centrebus get painted up
9 is still on fleet and the bus 2 ex centrebus spds will be painted into fleet liverey
Quote from: Busman Jamie on February 21, 2019, 08:40:53 AM
X546GGO not confirmed as withdrawn as such, I think it's a spare bus and can be used anytime,
X546GGO noted back in service today still carrying fleet number 4, which unless BA07 GHA has been renumbered means there are currently two buses carrying fleet number 4.
Both carrying fleet number 4, I can only imagine that 1 of the 2 number '4's' will be renumbered
Staffordshire CC lists a new 36 between Lichfield and Aldridge replacing the 35B.
Yea it pretty much does exactly the same route as the 35B other than no Aldridge-Walsall.
Here is the timetable for the 36 service
https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/8e2b7f_8399de969c0b4b5eaa959a8dfc18813c.pdf
Service 50 (Wolverhampton - Wednesfield) is to be operated by Select from Monday 1st April.
Quote from: BusMan Greg on March 28, 2019, 07:22:20 PM
Here is the timetable for the 36 service
https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/8e2b7f_8399de969c0b4b5eaa959a8dfc18813c.pdf
So a one bus requirement then.
Yes 1 bus to operate service 36
Optare Solo fleet no. 3 (MX53 FEH) is today's bus on the first day of operation on former igo service 50 (Wednesfield-Wolverhampton)
Will most likely be the regular on 50
I posted earlier regarding the arrival of a Dart and Solo from Centrebus, but it appears to have been deleted?
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I now have a reg for the Dart - LN03AYL and the Solo was Centrebus 258. My informant also added they were expecting D&G's Centro.
I wonder if these are fleet replacements or additions. still not seen no.9 out for a bit.
It is out of service, together with the double decker according to my informant, who says 8 and X546GGO are withdrawn.
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Centrebus 248 was running as XIL6081, but its original mark YJ54BTV is showing as live by the DVSA.
X546GGO/X246PGT are not withdrawn, they are used as and when required and WA09FHK is still on fleet
Are Nbus valid on the 50?
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on April 19, 2019, 03:43:27 PM
Are Nbus valid on the 50?
Yes; as it's a TfWM tendered service fully within the TfWM operating area.
Quote from: Nathan on April 19, 2019, 03:52:13 PM
Yes; as it's a TfWM tendered service fully within the TfWM operating area.
Thanks, I just wondered as the Network West Midlands website say they don't. Must be for Staffordshire services that they don't accept them?
Nbus isn't valid in the Staffordshire boundary anyway
Quote from: Busman Jamie on April 19, 2019, 07:18:44 PM
Nbus isn't valid in the Staffordshire boundary anyway
Yes, I know but the other Select services that travel through the Nbus area to/from Staffordshire don't accept them unlike other operators such as Banga and their 891 who accept them as far as Tettenhall.
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on April 19, 2019, 08:22:55 PM
Yes, I know but the other Select services that travel through the Nbus area to/from Staffordshire don't accept them unlike other operators such as Banga and their 891 who accept them as far as Tettenhall.
WE KNOW MATE!!!
Quote from: Busman Jamie on April 19, 2019, 12:55:44 PM
X546GGO/X246PGT are not withdrawn, they are used as and when required and WA09FHK is still on fleet
I was only repeating what my informant told me on Thursday - he was quite specific re withdrawn and out of service.
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Subsequently I read in buses that the Solo had gone to High Peak.
Quote from: mikestone on April 20, 2019, 03:35:47 PM
I was only repeating what my informant told me on Thursday - he was quite specific re withdrawn and out of service.
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Subsequently I read in buses that the Solo had gone to High Peak.
Who was this "Informant"???
Seen in Stafford yesterday one of the ex Centrebus Darts with a mixed livery, Select front end/Centrebus the rest, didn't catch reg or fleet number.
Seen in Stafford today new fleet no 8 - LN 03 AYL in full fleet livery. This bus is Tbs Dart SLF / Tbs B37F. It was first registered to Trustline, Hunsden 07/2002.
The ex Centrebus SPD in mixed livery is SK52 OKE which has a fully Select painted front complete with fleetname but Centrebus orange / blue/ white remainder. It's been running on the 12 Doxey service this week.
Quote from: Hector on April 26, 2019, 06:49:21 PM
The ex Centrebus SPD in mixed livery is SK52 OKE which has a fully Select painted front complete with fleetname but Centrebus orange / blue/ white remainder. It's been running on the 12 Doxey service this week.
Surely they'd paint the whole bus if they've painted the front?
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on April 26, 2019, 07:57:15 PM
Surely they'd paint the whole bus if they've painted the front?
These things take time yo do understand don't you
Quote from: BusMan Greg on April 26, 2019, 07:59:59 PM
These things take time yo do understand don't you
Yes, but why didn't they paint the whole bus all at the same time?
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on April 26, 2019, 08:02:40 PM
Yes, but why didn't they paint the whole bus all at the same time?
might of needed quickly do took front from another bus thats
withdrawn would take about 1 week to paint a bus
Front end was painted quickly, whole bus would of been done had it not been needed
Quote from: Busman Jamie on April 26, 2019, 08:13:22 PM
Front end was painted quickly, whole bus would of been done had it not been needed
When was it aquired?
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on April 26, 2019, 08:02:40 PM
Yes, but why didn't they paint the whole bus all at the same time?
Why don't you get into the shoes of the operator and see how hard it is to find time to do these things when big SPD'S like 14 are on the road every day
Quote from: BusMan Greg on April 26, 2019, 08:18:39 PM
Why don't you get into the shoes of the operator and see how hard it is to find time to do these things when big SPD'S like 14 are on the road every day
Couldn't they have replaced it with something else whilst it was being painted? Surely a spare bus is available?
SK52OKE was aquired last year, both this on OJG have both been out in service everyday since they came to Select Bus, the front end was painted because it did look awful orange and white with a select panel on.... It will be painted as soon as it can be pulled off the road but keeping services running are the priority.....
Both recent arrivals now in fleet livery - the Dart in Stafford and the Solo on the 36 in Lichfield - someone has gone to the trouble of covering the reference to 35b on one end of the shelter, but not the other!
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@mikestone both were painted before they entered service
Does anyone know who is operating TfWM tendered service 50 (Wolverhampton to Wednesfield) from this coming Monday? I saw mention elsewhere that it was looking likely National Express had won it but there is no mention on their website & social media channels. Are Select retaining it now then?
Cheers.
Tfwm have Nxwm operating it from the 16th tender result on their site
Quote from: pb2012 on June 14, 2019, 12:04:27 PM
Tfwm have Nxwm operating it from the 16th tender result on their site
I couldn't see mention of it online. Cheers for that :)
Our last day of operating the 50 is tomorrow and I believe nx take over from Monday
Quote from: Busman Jamie on June 14, 2019, 10:38:08 PM
Our last day of operating the 50 is tomorrow and I believe nx take over from Monday
And chopped back even further. Now 04 minutes past the hour from Wednesfield and 40 past the hour from Wolverhampton, last one from Wolverhampton at 13:40 and Wednesfield at 14:04, there is no longer a Saturday service.
Increase to 17 discs in today's N&P.
Quote from: mikestone on September 20, 2019, 03:29:41 PM
Increase to 17 discs in today's N&P.
How much of an increase is that?
They had 10 according to the July 2018 G-list, although I had 12 or 15 in mind I can't see any other increase in the news sheets.
Currently 10 disks and 9 vehicles required for daily service but more vehicles are owned
Quote from: Hector on September 20, 2019, 07:43:21 PM
Currently 10 disks and 9 vehicles required for daily service but more vehicles are owned
Sounds like there's new work coming then
Quote from: Winston on November 05, 2019, 04:45:47 PM
disc's for their size - no smoke, without fire in my opinion....
What is/are disc's?
Quote from: l.murphy123 on November 05, 2019, 11:04:07 PM
What is/are disc's?
Operator Disc's that are displayed on each vehicle
Select has recently had a vehicle allowance increase up to 17 vehicles:
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/view-details/licence/384560
Dont they already use most of those 17 vehicles though?
Quote from: Bob on November 06, 2019, 12:18:44 AM
Dont they already use most of those 17 vehicles though?
There's 14 listed in total here, with a couple not being used for months:
https://bustimes.org/operators/select-bus-services/vehicles
BA07GHA also appears to be in use, as well as the decker mentioned in the Ensign thread and ex-centrebus DAF FX04TJY, perhaps suggesting the extra dics are for contracts already in operation?
I think the data on the tracker is wrong in respect of fleet no 4, X546 GGO. That bus is shown on other lists as withdrawn and the fleet no 4 is now carried by BA 07 GHA
X546GGO has left the fleet, BA07GHA is number 4 and been in use for a while, works the 71 service everyday
In a colourful change to the norm the latest arrival is YN07 EYD a Scania Omnicity operating in Nottingham green.
Quote from: Hector on January 21, 2020, 06:55:14 PM
In a colourful change to the norm the latest arrival is YN07 EYD a Scania Omnicity operating in Nottingham green.
I wondered if that was with Select, saw it passing the office this afternoon, didn't fully catch the reg but thought it was ex NCT.
YN07EYD.... New addition, normally used on school/college service
Was a right beast on Nottingham that Scania!
Just seen a select opatre solo in the centre bus livery come along in warstones, Wolverhampton area any ideas why
Quote from: BH2004 on March 26, 2020, 08:38:28 AM
Just seen a select opatre solo in the centre bus livery come along in warstones, Wolverhampton area any ideas why
None of our solos are in centrebus livery, there is only FX04TJY in centrebus livery
Quote from: BH2004 on March 26, 2020, 08:38:28 AM
Just seen a select opatre solo in the centre bus livery come along in warstones, Wolverhampton area any ideas why
wonder if it was the coastal liner solo you saw
I've just seen on this fleetlist (http://quack77.uk/fleetlists/vehicle.php?vehicleid=25789) on another website that the latest acquisition is E200 FN57EWV. I don't suppose anyone would be able to confirm this or otherwise? Many thanks
Quote from: Express Sprinter 158 on April 05, 2020, 11:27:46 AM
I've just seen on this fleetlist (http://quack77.uk/fleetlists/vehicle.php?vehicleid=25789) on another website that the latest acquisition is E200 FN57EWV. I don't suppose anyone would be able to confirm this or otherwise? Many thanks
It certainly wasn't on fleet before I was off
Quote from: Busman Jamie on April 05, 2020, 05:45:29 PM
It certainly wasn't on fleet before I was off
Thanks - that's very helpful. There are a few mistakes on that site, so I had just wanted to check (mind you, not that most people would have been seeing anything of it for the time being) with someone in the know.
The envrio FN57EWV above is with select bus Swansea
Info taken from ensign latest buses sold
E200 FN57EWV : Select Bus Services, Swansea.
Volvo B9Rs FJ12FXD / FYR : Solus Coaches, Tamworth.
Quote from: Solo1 on April 07, 2020, 09:54:18 AM
E200 FN57EWV : Select Bus Services, Swansea.
So not Select Penkridge then!
@Tony on the fleetlist,
LX06AHA is 17
FX04TJY is 5
YN07EYD is 7
Y265YBC/X248PGT are not on fleet
Quote from: Busman Jamie on April 07, 2020, 05:32:46 PM
@Tony on the fleetlist,
LX06AHA is 17
FX04TJY is 5
YN07EYD is 7
Y265YBC/X248PGT are not on fleet
Thanks
@Busman Jamie Fleet list now updated to be accurate
http://wmbusphotos.com/Select/fleetlist.html
Where is the Trident usually used under normal circumstances?
Quote from: John on April 07, 2020, 07:23:13 PM
Where is the Trident usually used under normal circumstances?
Does 1 morning trip 878 to Wolgarston and 1 afternoon trip Wolgarston school and does the 17.10 878 to Wolverhampton to Wheaton Aston
It has occasionally turned up on the Doxeys aswell
Quote from: Busman Jamie on April 07, 2020, 07:29:40 PM
Does 1 morning trip 878 to Wolgarston and 1 afternoon trip Wolgarston school and does the 17.10 878 to Wolverhampton to Wheaton Aston
It has occasionally turned up on the Doxeys aswell
Thanks Jamie
Wish Select would put timetable cases up for the 71
Select have registered a college service from Stafford to Rodbaston from 30th August
Quote from: mikestone on July 10, 2020, 07:41:54 PM
Select have registered a college service from Stafford to Rodbaston from 30th August
Not just Stafford, various other Rodbaston College buses registered from the same date including from Bridgnorth.
Recent acquisition in fleet livery and carrying fleet number 12 is KX06 LNU a Dart / Plaxton ex Stagecoach. FX04 TJY fleet number 5 Previously operating in Centrebus livery now repainted in fleet livery. Both in use on the 12 service today
Quote from: Cheese on July 10, 2020, 08:22:19 PM
Not just Stafford, various other Rodbaston College buses registered from the same date including from Bridgnorth.
According to the college website that's the only other service apart from the existing one from Hednesford. Midland Classic also starting a second route.
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A number of routes are shown as worked by college minibus - do they have a PSV licence?
Quote from: mikestone on July 11, 2020, 04:54:36 PM
According to the college website that's the only other service apart from the existing one from Hednesford. Midland Classic also starting a second route.
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A number of routes are shown as worked by college minibus - do they have a PSV licence?
Don't know if they do, used to regularly see the coach from Stafford to Rodbaston in the morning outside the station but didn't see who ran that, and having not been to Stafford now since March I have no idea what the current situation is. The existing 813 from Swad is being changed and the 17 from Cannock is becoming the 817.
Quote from: Cheese on July 12, 2020, 10:07:11 AM
Don't know if they do, used to regularly see the coach from Stafford to Rodbaston in the morning outside the station but didn't see who ran that, and having not been to Stafford now since March I have no idea what the current situation is. The existing 813 from Swad is being changed and the 17 from Cannock is becoming the 817.
The coach which picks up from Stafford station in the morning goes to JCB Academy not Rodbaston. It is run by Stantons.
KX06LNU is here and numbered 12
YJ07JWD is number 18
Quote from: Busman Jamie on July 13, 2020, 07:17:27 PM
KX06LNU is here and numbered 12
YJ07JWD is number 18
Could you tell me what happened to MX54 KYE?
Many thanks.
Reported on merseyside forum that MIG 8170, ex Halton Transport 87 is here.
Quote from: mikestone on August 23, 2020, 01:37:52 PM
Reported on merseyside forum that MIG 8170, ex Halton Transport 87 is here.
Yep, there's been a couple of photos of it in the yard on Facebook.
Reported that 19 and 20 are LK04NNB and NNH, of the same batch as those just arrived at Midland Classic
The current fleet list is as follows
1 SK52OHZ
2 SN56AYB
3 MX53FEH
4 BA07GHA
5 FX04TJY
6 MX53FEG
7 YN07EYD
8 LN03AYL
9 WA09FHK
10 MIG8170
11 MX54KYF
12 KX06LNU
14 SK52OKE
15 SK52OJG
16 YJ54BTV
17 LX06AHA
18 YJ07JWD
19 LK04NNB
20 LK04NNH
Latest arrival is KX55 UDD a Dart which has become fleet number 21
Quote from: Hector on October 19, 2020, 11:29:16 PM
Latest arrival is KX55 UDD a Dart which has become fleet number 21
GX06DXA is also here as 22
Is 19 ready for service thanks
Quote from: Solo1 on October 20, 2020, 07:39:31 PM
Is 19 ready for service thanks
19 can be used anytime, it just needs painting but it's mainly a spare decker should 17/20 come off the road
Quote from: Busman Jamie on October 20, 2020, 08:00:08 PM
19 can be used anytime, it just needs painting but it's mainly a spare decker should 17/20 come off the road
thanks
Quote from: Busman Jamie on October 20, 2020, 07:01:31 PM
GX06DXA is also here as 22
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Both 21 and this ex Halton via GB, Hyde
Just noticed on the Christmas Day(!) edition of notices and proceedings that a 74S from Stafford to Cannock was to have started tomorrow.
Ex Thandi NK56 EPO is now with Select. I believe it's been given fleet number 14 according to a post I've seen by a driver.
Yes. According to Bustimes it was working the 12 in Stafford this morning.
NK56EPO is fleet number 14
SK52OKE is withdrawn from service
Former 12 MX54KYE has now been sold for scrap
Quote from: Michael Bevan on January 16, 2021, 11:15:20 AM
Ex Thandi NK56 EPO is now with Select. I believe it's been given fleet number 14 according to a post I've seen by a driver.
Sorry its off topic, how do you create the destination blind in youe signature?
Quote from: l.murphy123 on January 29, 2021, 12:50:16 PM
Sorry its off topic, how do you create the destination blind in youe signature?
No idea as I didn't program them
How much longer the Ex Lothian Darts got mate? Ive never been on one!
Quote from: Bob on January 29, 2021, 04:12:00 PM
How much longer the Ex Lothian Darts got mate? Ive never been on one!
Not sure on that 1 mate
Select now have two ex-Arriva Commanders in their fleet, as per a post on Facebook.
3719 FJ06 ZTE - numbered 25
3721 FJ06 ZTG - numbered 23
Quote from: DJ on February 10, 2021, 05:56:40 AM
Select now have two ex-Arriva Commanders in their fleet, as per a post on Facebook.
3719 FJ06 ZTE - numbered 25
3721 FJ06 ZTG - numbered 23
Correct. FJ06ZTG (23) in full select liverey
Quote from: Jamie A on February 10, 2021, 07:54:39 AM
Correct. FJ06ZTG (23) in full select liverey
And 25 is soon to be, judging from your photo. ;)
Quote from: DJ on February 10, 2021, 08:28:41 AM
And 25 is soon to be, judging from your photo. ;)
Hopefully this week
According to bustimes they did operate for D&G as 183/5 before moving here.
184 FJ06ZTF doesn't appear on there - is it expected here as 24?
FJ06ZTE now in full fleet liverey, FJ06ZTF will be the next 1 in for paint
Quote from: Jamie A on February 19, 2021, 02:33:38 PM
FJ06ZTE now in full fleet liverey, FJ06ZTF will be the next 1 in for paint
Is ZTF fleet no 24 ?
Quote from: Grinder on February 20, 2021, 10:18:03 AM
Is ZTF fleet no 24 ?
I'm not 100% certain on it's fleet number, I will post as soon as I know
FJ06ZTH is another commander here, again, I will post the fleet number when I know what it will be
Who is paining these ? Are there 4 now , any pictures after repaint ?
Quote from: Vulcan on February 24, 2021, 03:09:11 PM
Who is paining these ? Are there 4 now , any pictures after repaint ?
They are painted at our depot in the garage, I have posted pictures on Facebook groups, (not sure if you are on Facebook)
SK52OKE left for scrap today
I hope these haven't been released by D&G on the expectation of replacements from Centrebus when normal services resume?
Quote from: Jamie A on February 24, 2021, 07:55:02 PM
They are painted at our depot in the garage, I have posted pictures on Facebook groups, (not sure if you are on Facebook)
Can we see photos here?
I will try and figure out how to post 1 later on
FJ06ZTF now in full fleet liverey and numbered 24
FJ06ZTH next 1 in for painting
Former Arriva 2371 FJ55BWA now here and in full liverey
what fleet nos are FJ 06 ZTH and FJ 55 BWA carrying ?
Quote from: Grinder on March 20, 2021, 09:14:07 AM
what fleet nos are FJ 06 ZTH and FJ 55 BWA carrying ?
Not sure yet, as soon as I know I will post here
Are Select going to take on some of the Stafford routes from Chaserider?
Quote from: Fred on March 20, 2021, 04:55:24 PM
Are Select going to take on some of the Stafford routes from Chaserider?
VOSA Bus Service registrations are in:
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/574755/
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/574758/
Quote from: Depotosw on March 22, 2021, 07:24:02 PM
VOSA Bus Service registrations are in:
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/574755/
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/574758/
Judging by the 875A registration, it looks like it's a replacement for the 6 as the registration details it runs from Stafford-Stafford via Rickerscote
Reviving an old Midland Red route numbers a nice touch. IIRC originally the 875 was Cannock-Wolves via Penkridge, late 80s often operated with Leopard coaches then much later Cannock-Stafford
Quote from: BusMan Greg on March 22, 2021, 08:22:45 PM
Judging by the 875A registration, it looks like it's a replacement for the 6 as the registration details it runs from Stafford-Stafford via Rickerscote
Yes indeed, the 875A appears to replace the 6, the 875 is here:
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/574756/
Neither D&G or Select have released any timetable info on their websites yet. It's going to be interesting how they will time them, if the times have changes that is
FJ55BWA numbered 1
SK52OHZ - Withdrawn
FJ06ZTH now in full fleet liverey and numbered 26
VA increased to 25 in this week's N&P.
Have Select got a Third B7/President?
LK04 NMM was photographed in Wolverhampton today with someone saying they thought it was with Select.
Quote from: Tony on March 31, 2021, 07:22:35 PM
Have Select got a Third B7/President?
LK04 NMM was photographed in Wolverhampton today with someone saying they thought it was with Select.
I'm 99% sure that's coastal liners! However, I could be wrong....
Quote from: Tony on March 31, 2021, 07:22:35 PM
Have Select got a Third B7/President?
LK04 NMM was photographed in Wolverhampton today with someone saying they thought it was with Select.
No we only have the 2
@BusMan Greg is correct, LK04NNM belongs to Coastaliner
Quote from: Jamie A on March 31, 2021, 08:27:27 PM
No we only have the 2 @BusMan Greg is correct, LK04NNM belongs to Coastaliner
Glad I'm correct on something lol
FJ06ZTF numbered 24
KX58GTF now here in full livery and numbered 28
Oooh an ex igo machine
It has also spent some time with Bakerbus so may have appeared in Stafford before.
I see another two routes have started today, 103 replacing the missing bit of D&G 14 between Eccleshall and Stone and 104 between Stone and Barlaston.
KX09CHZ now here fully painted into fleet liverey and numbered 29
Any chance of an up to date fleet list Jamie?
Another ex-Bakerbus one.
Quote from: Capitalpotter on April 28, 2021, 09:28:56 AM
Any chance of an up to date fleet list Jamie?
1 FJ55BWA
2 SN56AYB
3 MX53FEH
4 BA07GHA
5 FX04TJY
6 MX53FEG
7 YN07EYD
8 LN03AYL
9 WA09FHK
10 MIG8170
11 MX54KYF
12 KX06LNU
14 NK56EPO
15 SK52OJG
16 YJ54BTV
17 LX06AHA
18 YJ07JWD
19 LK04NNB
20 LK04NNH
21 KX55UDD
22 GX06DXA
23 FJ06ZTG
24 FJ06ZTF
25 FJ06ZTE
26 FJ06ZTH
28 KX58GTF
29 KX09CHZ
1 SK52OHZ (Withdrawn)
The fleet list on the main site is also accurate aswell
Are Select having ZTM/ZTN too? ZTL sounds like its knackered lol
Quote from: Jamie A on April 28, 2021, 12:50:48 PM
1 FJ55BWA
2 SN56AYB
3 MX53FEH
4 BA07GHA
5 FX04TJY
6 MX53FEG
7 YN07EYD
8 LN03AYL
9 WA09FHK
10 MIG8170
11 MX54KYF
12 KX06LNU
14 NK56EPO
15 SK52OJG
16 YJ54BTV
17 LX06AHA
18 YJ07JWD
19 LK04NNB
20 LK04NNH
21 KX55UDD
22 GX06DXA
23 FJ06ZTG
24 FJ06ZTF
25 FJ06ZTE
26 FJ06ZTH
28 KX58GTF
29 KX09CHZ
1 SK52OHZ (Withdrawn)
The fleet list on the main site is also accurate aswell
Cheers Jamie.
No 27.......yet?
Quote from: Bob on April 28, 2021, 01:44:56 PM
Are Select having ZTM/ZTN too? ZTL sounds like its knackered lol
Not 100% sure on that mate although they'd be welcome to join the fleet lol
Quote from: Jamie A on April 28, 2021, 03:21:37 PM
Not 100% sure on that mate although they'd be welcome to join the fleet lol
Even better cos thry had the refurb as well
Chaserider are really gonna have capacity issues tbf. 29 seat dual door e200s/31 seat dual door streetlites and solos arent gona be big enough if and when services pick up. The Solo on the 70 was impossible to do social distance on the other day and coming back from work in Stafford last week bout 1230 on 74 on a dual door streetlite it was full....
Do we know both Select & Chaserider's policy on double deckers?
Are they likely to consider them?
Quote from: Westy on April 28, 2021, 09:01:19 PM
Do we know both Select & Chaserider's policy on double deckers?
Are they likely to consider them?
D&G have used deckers before, although back when it was Wardle. Select already do have deckers, although they don't see use on regular service routes as far as I'm aware, rather they get used on school services.
Quote from: Westy on April 28, 2021, 09:01:19 PM
Do we know both Select & Chaserider's policy on double deckers?
Are they likely to consider them?
We have 3 deckers, 2 of which are used on school services and the 3rd being the "spare" although they have popped up on service work occasionally
The trident does the 16.40 878 Brewood to Wolverhampton and the 17.10 Wolverhampton to Brewood everyday
Quote from: Bob on April 28, 2021, 05:09:00 PM
Chaserider are really gonna have capacity issues tbf. 29 seat dual door e200s/31 seat dual door streetlites and solos arent gona be big enough if and when services pick up. The Solo on the 70 was impossible to do social distance on the other day and coming back from work in Stafford last week bout 1230 on 74 on a dual door streetlite it was full....
They'll still have the Wright Eclipses. They're full size singles
Quote from: Capitalpotter on April 29, 2021, 09:44:36 AM
They'll still have the Wright Eclipses. They're full size singles
Yea but thats about 8 buses lol
Quote from: Bob on April 29, 2021, 03:33:26 PM
Yea but thats about 8 buses lol
Arriva coped with them. I'm sure the bosses at D&G/Chaserider will be monitoring patronage and adjusting bus frequency and capacity accordingly. Theyre in it to make money after all
Quote from: Capitalpotter on April 30, 2021, 03:28:20 PM
Arriva coped with them. I'm sure the bosses at D&G/Chaserider will be monitoring patronage and adjusting bus frequency and capacity accordingly. Theyre in it to make money after all
Arriva also had many more full sized vehicles such as pulsars/centros.....
FJ55BWD now in fleet liverey and numbered 27
7 and 8 timetables replacing Chaserider services now on Select website, as well as a 23 Cannock-Wimblebury-Hednesford.
Also shows the 71 going to Chaserider, with a link to the Chaserider website for further information - although currently it doesn't say anything.
Quote from: mikestone on May 24, 2021, 10:22:52 PM
7 and 8 timetables replacing Chaserider services now on Select website, as well as a 23 Cannock-Wimblebury-Hednesford.
Also shows the 71 going to Chaserider, with a link to the Chaserider website for further information - although currently it doesn't say anything.
71 is going to be run by Chaserider, roughly on the opposite half hour of the 70, broadly the same route as before.
Quote from: Cheese on May 25, 2021, 07:57:35 AM
71 is going to be run by Chaserider, roughly on the opposite half hour of the 70, broadly the same route as before.
Are their any details of the timetable anywhere?
Quote from: BusMan Greg on May 25, 2021, 12:59:06 PM
Are their any details of the timetable anywhere?
Not online yet, no.
I'd expect to see some timetables appear on the Chaserider website next week, if not this week!
Wonder if any more services will move from chaserider like 432/841
Quote from: Solo1 on June 02, 2021, 11:47:53 PM
Wonder if any more services will move from chaserider like 832/841
What's the 832?
Probably means 432.
Quote from: ellspurs on June 03, 2021, 05:35:39 PM
Probably means 432.
I never actually thought of that lol
FJ06ZTL now in fleet livery and numbered 30, FJ06ZTM is the next 1 to go in for paint
FJ06ZTM to be numbered 31
How come a lot of selects latest routes don't show up on the bustimes map?
Quote from: Capitalpotter on July 08, 2021, 08:59:31 PM
How come a lot of selects latest routes don't show up on the bustimes map?
Select's new Stafford town routes (7,8,9, 875A) plus services 875 and 103/104 have today started showing on bustimes. I suspect new M-F only route 23 will also appear next week. Thanks to whoever made that happen!
Quote from: Jamie A on June 04, 2021, 09:42:39 PM
FJ06ZTL now in fleet livery and numbered 30, FJ06ZTM is the next 1 to go in for paint
Where do they get painted ? Followed one today and it looked smart.
Do they get maintained in-house or elsewhere ?
Quote from: LNational on July 13, 2021, 07:02:34 PM
Where do they get painted ? Followed one today and it looked smart.
Do they get maintained in-house or elsewhere ?
They are painted and maintained in-house
Quote from: Jamie A on July 13, 2021, 10:15:51 PM
They are painted and maintained in-house
And put Chaserider to shame. The unrefurbed but yet painted SR solo i got to New Cross Hospital on the 71 today was slow noisy and didnt sound healthy at all, the interior panels looked like theyd not been cleaned since Arriva days. Absolutely filthy. The 71 has dropped considerably in vehicle quality, condition and especially reliabilitysince it went over. Looking at bustimes the 62 was a vehicle down most of the afternoon. 2hrly frequncy after 2pm with only one bus. 106 looks like its out of action again. Solo 162 the one i was on in may thqt broke down repeatedly on the way to Wolves then finally conked out and was towed back was out for the first time in 7 weeks last week, it didnt even manage 2hrsand hasnt been used 6. According to bustimes 96 was out for a few hrs this morning, but thats surely a mistake its been dead for weeks and looked like it was stuck in the yard. Any newer buses actually coming? Theres been rumours about more MMCs but also Metrocitys. Hopefully theyll replace most Solos...
I see a much more enhanced 877/878 service will be starting on 31st August with the 878 serving Gailey as well as Saturday services beyond Brewood for the first time in a couple of years, with 878's working the quick (main road) way from Gailey to Coven then coming back through the villages to Stafford
Quote from: Davismt2000 on August 22, 2021, 10:28:25 PM
I see a much more enhanced 877/878 service will be starting on 31st August with the 878 serving Gailey as well as Saturday services beyond Brewood for the first time in a couple of years, with 878's working the quick (main road) way from Gailey to Coven then coming back through the villages to Stafford
Does that mean the joint Chaserider / Select timetable leaflet for Stafford should be reissued then?
I suspect Covid will gave seen off mostvprinted leaflets permanently.
What on earth is that Saturday timetable. It looks awful. God help any normal member of the public trying to read and make sense of that. Geeze. How they get any passengers with timetables like that. What did they do, throw darts at a map and say yep, we will serve there on this trip.
You can really tell a professional versus non professional operator by how passenger friendly their timetables are and by god, I am so glad I don't have to use Select as my local operator. My 14 month old sister could draw up a better timetable than that!
Remember this is the Staffs countryside they serve, not the middle of Brum. Each trip has to stand up on its own two feet.
Looking at it, there is 1 bus doing the Wolves to Brewood shorts with a hour break for lunch at 1330hrs, with the other doing a pair of 877 circulars and the 878 circulars on a Saturday, allowing for connections at Brewood/Coven to Wolves
Makes perfect sense.
Select have a long history in this area with route knowledge going back to green bus days. I'm sure they know their passengers by now
Quote from: the trainbasher on August 23, 2021, 10:28:03 PM
Remember this is the Staffs countryside they serve, not the middle of Brum. Each trip has to stand up on its own two feet.
Looking at it, there is 1 bus doing the Wolves to Brewood shorts with a hour break for lunch at 1330hrs, with the other doing a pair of 877 circulars and the 878 circulars on a Saturday, allowing for connections at Brewood/Coven to Wolves
Makes perfect sense.
This would be the case if the Stafford - Brewood section ran about 20 mins earlier than planned. At the moment it is a 20 odd min connection off the 878 at Brewood towards Stafford and far more off the 878 from Stafford towards Wolverhampton
Quote from: IMarkeh on August 23, 2021, 09:44:01 PM
What on earth is that Saturday timetable. It looks awful. God help any normal member of the public trying to read and make sense of that. Geeze. How they get any passengers with timetables like that. What did they do, throw darts at a map and say yep, we will serve there on this trip.
You can really tell a professional versus non professional operator by how passenger friendly their timetables are and by god, I am so glad I don't have to use Select as my local operator. My 14 month old sister could draw up a better timetable than that!
The Saturday Brewood to Stafford is a staffs CC tender and they designed the timetable, this enables the Saturday 877/8 to be operated with 1 bus rather than 2
On Saturday what if you want to travel from Stafford to wolves
Quote from: Solo1 on August 24, 2021, 08:36:57 PM
On Saturday what if you want to travel from Stafford to wolves
You use the train
Quote from: Solo1 on August 24, 2021, 08:36:57 PM
On Saturday what if you want to travel from Stafford to wolves
Train? Quicker and more per hour with Avanti, Cross Country and LNWR.
Covid has hit buses hard and select aren't going to run a bus for a loss. If it's funded by Staffordshire cc then it's up to them how they want the service to run.
Even before covid hit Arriva and National Express both tried to run it and it's just not profitable
Quote from: BK63 YWP on August 24, 2021, 09:01:41 PM
Train? Quicker and more per hour with Avanti, Cross Country and LNWR.
Covid has hit buses hard and select aren't going to run a bus for a loss. If it's funded by Staffordshire cc then it's up to them how they want the service to run.
Even before covid hit Arriva and National Express both tried to run it and it's just not profitable
They only ran via Coven didn't they, not Brewood.
Quote from: the trainbasher on August 23, 2021, 10:28:03 PM
Remember this is the Staffs countryside they serve, not the middle of Brum. Each trip has to stand up on its own two feet.
Looking at it, there is 1 bus doing the Wolves to Brewood shorts with a hour break for lunch at 1330hrs, with the other doing a pair of 877 circulars and the 878 circulars on a Saturday, allowing for connections at Brewood/Coven to Wolves
Makes perfect sense.
I don't just mean the Saturdays, the 877/878 is a mess in general. Seems to try and serve so many different markets that you firstly end up with a wildly different School Day, School Holiday and now Saturday timetable.
I'm sure that with 2 buses, something different could have been come up with. As a bus operator, you should certainly not be happy looking at that timetable and thinking that is acceptable for passengers. Passengers want and need simple timetables. That is how you encourage people onto your buses. Some existing passengers may love it but the reality is, if you want anyone to get onto a bus, that timetable is not the way to do it. You give that to some people in some of the villages and ask 'does this timetable encourage you to use the bus', they'll think you are having them on. It's no wonder the bus struggles to get loads of passengers on, no one knows when their bus comes. Throw some darts at a map and that is where the bus will serve. Roll some dice to get departure times.
I fully, fully agree with trips being viable or keeping costs low and that side of things makes perfect sense but this isn't that. This is making an operationally convenient timetable and expecting passengers to work with that. Not creating a passenger focussed timetable with at least some consistency. You go to any half credible person in the industry and ask them if that looks acceptable for passengers, you'll be laughed at. There are cowboy operators who can come up with better timetables and that is saying something.
It's not a core city service you know it's a rural service designed to keep rural communities connected which in my opinion & since it's been running so long it does well.
If you think you can do a better job then apply for your own discs buy some buses & give it a go yourself.
Quote from: IMarkeh on August 25, 2021, 12:40:23 AM
I don't just mean the Saturdays, the 877/878 is a mess in general. Seems to try and serve so many different markets that you firstly end up with a wildly different School Day, School Holiday and now Saturday timetable.
I'm sure that with 2 buses, something different could have been come up with. As a bus operator, you should certainly not be happy looking at that timetable and thinking that is acceptable for passengers. Passengers want and need simple timetables. That is how you encourage people onto your buses. Some existing passengers may love it but the reality is, if you want anyone to get onto a bus, that timetable is not the way to do it. You give that to some people in some of the villages and ask 'does this timetable encourage you to use the bus', they'll think you are having them on. It's no wonder the bus struggles to get loads of passengers on, no one knows when their bus comes. Throw some darts at a map and that is where the bus will serve. Roll some dice to get departure times.
I fully, fully agree with trips being viable or keeping costs low and that side of things makes perfect sense but this isn't that. This is making an operationally convenient timetable and expecting passengers to work with that. Not creating a passenger focussed timetable with at least some consistency. You go to any half credible person in the industry and ask them if that looks acceptable for passengers, you'll be laughed at. There are cowboy operators who can come up with better timetables and that is saying something.
The owner reads this forum, so you could just draw up a better timetable using the same resources and offer it to Mr Brown. I am sure he would be grateful
I'd be interested to know, since Select & Chaserider started doing joint timetable leaflets, whether there's more awareness of Select's operations now?
Quote from: IMarkeh on August 25, 2021, 12:40:23 AM
I don't just mean the Saturdays, the 877/878 is a mess in general. Seems to try and serve so many different markets that you firstly end up with a wildly different School Day, School Holiday and now Saturday timetable.
I'm sure that with 2 buses, something different could have been come up with. As a bus operator, you should certainly not be happy looking at that timetable and thinking that is acceptable for passengers. Passengers want and need simple timetables. That is how you encourage people onto your buses. Some existing passengers may love it but the reality is, if you want anyone to get onto a bus, that timetable is not the way to do it. You give that to some people in some of the villages and ask 'does this timetable encourage you to use the bus', they'll think you are having them on. It's no wonder the bus struggles to get loads of passengers on, no one knows when their bus comes. Throw some darts at a map and that is where the bus will serve. Roll some dice to get departure times.
I fully, fully agree with trips being viable or keeping costs low and that side of things makes perfect sense but this isn't that. This is making an operationally convenient timetable and expecting passengers to work with that. Not creating a passenger focussed timetable with at least some consistency. You go to any half credible person in the industry and ask them if that looks acceptable for passengers, you'll be laughed at. There are cowboy operators who can come up with better timetables and that is saying something.
Sadly, long gone are the days where rural busses run to be convenient, they only run to provide a service. Not many companies could run a service in those sort of areas to encourage people to use the bus, maybe some of the bigger operators could manage but even NXWM and Arriva struggled there and had to rely on funding.
I agree it could be better, but in my book that would involve full integration with all public transport and more frequent connections for villages to the train (in these cases likely Penkridge, for example)
Quote from: Tony on August 25, 2021, 07:42:06 AM
The owner reads this forum, so you could just draw up a better timetable using the same resources and offer it to Mr Brown. I am sure he would be grateful
Would it be taken onboard though? That is the big thing. No point in me wasting hours making a simpler timetable for it to then do nothing and go no where.
Quote from: Kevin on August 25, 2021, 12:17:39 PM
Sadly, long gone are the days where rural busses run to be convenient, they only run to provide a service. Not many companies could run a service in those sort of areas to encourage people to use the bus, maybe some of the bigger operators could manage but even NXWM and Arriva struggled there and had to rely on funding.
I agree it could be better, but in my book that would involve full integration with all public transport and more frequent connections for villages to the train (in these cases likely Penkridge, for example)
It's not about an extra bus, running the routes hourly or being non stop etc. They are rural and so they come with complications to serve areas. You aren't going to get millions on the bus by making a simple timetable, I get that. Simplifying it though will encourage more people to use the service.
I think what does it is the schools meaning buses go wildly off route and the inclusion of some, what would be, dead mileage trips, which make the timetable look significantly more complex than it needs to. Some school day/holiday variation happens and people get that. It's how different things are though.
Saturdays probably due to the tender, they look a mess but as an operator, surely you should see that and try to rework the timetable provided to make it work better overall for passengers.
Quote from: Steveminor on August 25, 2021, 07:25:47 AM
It's not a core city service you know it's a rural service designed to keep rural communities connected which in my opinion & since it's been running so long it does well.
If you think you can do a better job then apply for your own discs buy some buses & give it a go yourself.
I'm with the other view point on this - it's this attitude towards passengers that is exactly why people don't use bus.
The 877/878 timetable are in no way passenger friendly. Yes, it's a rural service, and if there's no desire for growth, then fine. But a timetable formatted like that with no other PR/marketing isn't going to do anything to encourage people on to the bus. Even keeping the existing timetable - a lot could be done to present the information more professionally and more legibly to anybody not accustomed to bus.
Select's buses are always very smartly turned out - they could work wonders if this was reflected in the presentation of passenger information across the board :-)
The Saturday service is Tendered & looking at the timetable even though I dont know the area I can see the 877 & 878 are designed to drop you off on the way back for the other route maximising the carrying potential for 1 bus
Quote from: Steveminor on August 29, 2021, 09:08:23 PM
The Saturday service is Tendered & looking at the timetable even though I dont know the area I can see the 877 & 878 are designed to drop you off on the way back for the other route maximising the carrying potential for 1 bus
And we can see that, as people with an interest in / knowledge of bus. But what the industry as a whole does a poor job of realising, understanding or enacting, is that the average member of public does not. They want an easy, convenient, reliable and straightforward service to get them where they want to go. Operational convenience is of zero relevance to most customers.
Operational convenience is vital for longevity, but marketing & PR can and should be done in such a way that disguises this in a package that suits the above market.
Quote from: Brick60000 on August 29, 2021, 09:45:08 PM
And we can see that, as people with an interest in / knowledge of bus. But what the industry as a whole does a poor job of realising, understanding or enacting, is that the average member of public does not. They want an easy, convenient, reliable and straightforward service to get them where they want to go. Operational convenience is of zero relevance to most customers.
Operational convenience is vital for longevity, but marketing & PR can and should be done in such a way that disguises this in a package that suits the above market.
There's a difference between operational convenience where a timetable has an uneven service just so one driver stays on the same route and needs a break, and operational necessity where it would cost an extra bus and kill the service altogether
What people also forget is that these services have had a 100% increase on the previous Saturday service.
I think that's missing my point though - I'm not criticising the service offering. I just feel it could be presented in a far, far clearer way to passengers than it currently is.
Out of curiosity, is Wolves Bus Station also getting copies of the the joint Chaserider/Select timetable leaflets like Walsall is, as last time I went to Wolves, they'd closed the desk that used to issue those non Nx timetables?
As per The Green Bus thread, Select to take on the 242 Stourbridge - Kinver
https://www.stourbridgenews.co.uk/news/19604080.green-bus-ends-loss-making-kinver-stourbridge-242-service/
I was also told a Centrebus Centro has joined the fleet - no idea whether its one of the pair previously with D&G or not.
No 242 service this week, Select have said they can't take it over till Monday 04th October.
E200 KX08HMD is here and numbered 32
The 242 timetable has a shool-time gap, presumably where the Green Bus vehicle did a school service - if that was the case are Select also covering it?
Quote from: mikestone on October 10, 2021, 04:01:51 PM
The 242 timetable has a shool-time gap, presumably where the Green Bus vehicle did a school service - if that was the case are Select also covering it?
Possibly where the 742 is timetabled
Quote from: BNH2004 on October 10, 2021, 05:26:35 PM
Possibly where the 742 is timetabled
Yes, they are also operating the 742.
How do they position from garage to the start of route - do they run a filler service from Penkridge or do they just run DEAD?
Quote from: Wumpty on October 11, 2021, 10:31:13 AM
How do they position from garage to the start of route - do they run a filler service from Penkridge or do they just run DEAD?
Runs private to Kinver
Quote from: Jamie A on October 11, 2021, 07:05:47 PM
Runs private to Kinver
Thanks Jamie - it's a hell of a jaunt with circa 30 miles of dead mileage, but glad Select are covering the 242.
Latest addition to the fleet is a Mark 1 Citaro, HF55 JZK, most recently with Konect Bus but new to Wilts & Dorset.
8 LN03AYL- withdrawn
Quote from: Jamie A on November 23, 2021, 08:30:06 PM
8 LN03AYL- withdrawn
Last day in service was today then
Select will continue to operate the 242 Stourbridge - Kinver, with an improved timetable from 4 January 2022: -
https://www.staffordshire.gov.uk/Newsroom/Articles/2022/12-December/Relaunch-for-bus-route-saved-by-intervention.aspx (https://www.staffordshire.gov.uk/Newsroom/Articles/2022/12-December/Relaunch-for-bus-route-saved-by-intervention.aspx)
So will that mean it does a double run down Bridgnorth Road to serve Wollaston, if its keeping the crem bit, or will it lose the bit to Stourbridge Junction I wonder
Quote from: the trainbasher on December 17, 2021, 12:06:13 AM
So will that mean it does a double run down Bridgnorth Road to serve Wollaston, if its keeping the crem bit, or will it lose the bit to Stourbridge Junction I wonder
Stourbridge junction is only being served on I think 1 trip in the morning and 1 trip on the evening
Former Centrebus 605 FJ56YBV is prepped and ready for paint and will be numbered 8
Quote from: Jamie A on January 07, 2022, 04:04:23 PM
Former Centrebus 605 FJ56YBV is prepped and ready for paint and will be numbered 8
Hope its more reliable than Chaserider 603,that broke down blocking the stand in Stafford on 8th Dec and hasnt been out since lol
Optare Versa YJ64DZL now on fleet here and numbered 35
Quote from: Jamie A on February 09, 2022, 06:25:22 PM
Optare Versa YJ64DZL now on fleet here and numbered 35
Any idea when/if that Citaro will enter service mate?
YJ57BOH first with Claribell is no.33 according to bus times - it's certainly here in all-over white.
Upto date fleet
1 FJ55BWA
2 MX55WDJ
3 MX53FEH
4 BA07GHA
5 FX04TJY
6 MX53FEG
7 YN07EYD
8 FJ56YBV
9 WA09FHK
10 MIG8170
11 MX54KYF
12 KX06LNU
14 NK56EPO
15 SK52OJG
16 YJ54BTV
17 LX06AHA
18 YJ07JWD
19 LK04NNB
20 LK04NNH
21 KX55UDD
22 GX06DXA
23 FJ06ZTG
24 FJ06ZTF
25 FJ06ZTE
26 FJ06ZTH
27 FJ55BWD
28 KX58GTF
29 KX09CHZ
30 FJ06ZTL
31 FJ06ZTM
32 KX08HMD
33 YJ57BOH
35 YJ64DZL
?? HF55JZK
?? YJ56JXX
Sold For Scrap
1 SK52OHZ
8 LN03AYL
Withdrawn
2 SN56AYB
Former "Crawley Luxury" optare solo YYL370 is now here and will become 34 in the fleet
YJ56JXX ex Claribel
Is it true that Dennis Dart KX06 JYK is now at Select or is it being used for spares?
Up to date fleet
1 FJ55BWA
2 MX55WDJ
3 MX53FEH
4 BA07GHA
5 FX04TJY
6 MX53FEG
7 YN07EYD
8 FJ56YBV
9 WA09FHK
10 MIG8170
11 MX54KYF
12 KX06LNU
14 NK56EPO
15 SK52OJG
16 YJ54BTV
17 LX06AHA
18 YJ07JWD
19 LK04NNB
20 LK04NNH
21 KX55UDD
22 GX06DXA
23 FJ06ZTG
24 FJ06ZTF
25 FJ06ZTE
26 FJ06ZTH
27 FJ55BWD
28 KX58GTF
29 KX09CHZ
30 FJ06ZTL
31 FJ06ZTM
32 KX08HMD
33 YJ57BOH
34 YYL370
35 YJ64DZL
36 SGZ 3534
Unconfirmed Fleet Buses
HF55JZK
YJ56JXX
KX06 JYK
KX06JYK is NOT on fleet here,
34 now has its original number plate YJ05WCV
2 SN56AYB Withdrawn
What is SGZ 3534 shown as fleet no 36 and any idea on original reg no please
Its a Dennis Trident previous reg PX04DNE from South Staffs Travel
Thanks
YJ56JXX now in full livery
Quote from: Jamie A on July 18, 2022, 10:53:31 AMYJ56JXX now in full livery
What fleet number is it?
15 SK52OJG- Withdrawn
10 and 22 been withdrawn or just waiting on MOT'S?
Quote from: Dennis Dart Plaxton Pointer on October 18, 2022, 04:32:56 PM10 and 22 been withdrawn or just waiting on MOT'S
Neither are withdrawn, 22 has just been MoT'd, bus 10 will be the next
Former NCT 377 YX13BNU has been acquired and will gain fleet number 15
Optare versa YJ08PKY has been acquired and numbered 3
Solo 3 MX53FEH Withdrawn
Quote from: Jamie A on November 09, 2022, 05:39:39 PMOptare versa YJ08PKY has been acquired and numbered 3
Solo 3 MX53FEH Withdrawn
That the one that was a regular on 67s?
Quote from: Bob on November 09, 2022, 06:25:36 PMThat the one that was a regular on 67s?
It has been on 67 a few times but past few weeks it's been on 877/878, number 6 is the solo that's been on there most recently with solos 2 & 11 making appearances
Another versa acquired YJ08PKX
Additional buses are for new service 96/96A between Shrewsbury and Telford via Ironbridge. This service will operate seven return trips Mon-Sat from 3rd December 2022 also replacing part of Arriva service 19.
Great to hear Select have another new route
QuoteAnother versa acquired YJ08PKX
Here it is with its previous operator
Vision YJ08 PKX (wmbusphotos.com) (http://wmbusphotos.com/NONWM/GM/VisionYJ08PKX.html)
Volvo b7rle eclipse 2 BD14KXU now here
E200 YX65RHJ now on fleet here
Quote from: Jamie A on January 26, 2023, 09:47:59 PME200 YX65RHJ now on fleet here
Seen the pictures of it. Looks beautiful
There was a Select bus sat in a layby on the a460 in Featherstone earlier having what looked like oil or some sort of lubricant put into it.
Former Johnson's Scania omnilink YN63BYO now here
Wright Streetlite SR13BOF is here in full livery and numbered 1
1 FJ55BWA- Withdrawn
Quote from: Jamie A on May 04, 2023, 08:32:27 PMWright Streetlite SR13BOF is here in full livery and numbered 1
1 FJ55BWA- Withdrawn
sell BWA to chaserider for a fleet upgrade :grin: :grin:
Quote from: Jamie A on May 04, 2023, 08:32:27 PMWright Streetlite SR13BOF is here in full livery and numbered 1
1 FJ55BWA- Withdrawn
Here it is in a previous life
Docherty's X77 JDS (wmbusphotos.com) (http://wmbusphotos.com/NONWM/SE/DochertyX77JDS.html)
Quote from: Tony on May 05, 2023, 05:54:02 PMHere it is in a previous life
Docherty's X77 JDS (wmbusphotos.com) (http://wmbusphotos.com/NONWM/SE/DochertyX77JDS.html)
There appeared to be a DD on the 9 today - seen several times passing Stafford station, but bustimes didn't seem to be showing one
2 SN56AYB & 25 FJ06ZTE have both now left for scrap
27 FJ55BWD- Withdrawn
Quote from: Jamie A on May 27, 2023, 09:36:22 PM2 SN56AYB & 25 FJ06ZTE have both now left for scrap
27 FJ55BWD- Withdrawn
Didn't last long at select bus
Quote from: Solo1 on May 27, 2023, 10:47:44 PMDidn't last long at select bus
They both did 2 years, remember they are 18 year old buses
Quote from: mikestone on May 18, 2023, 06:23:31 PMThere appeared to be a DD on the 9 today - seen several times passing Stafford station, but bustimes didn't seem to be showing one
It has been pointed out to me that it may well have been a farmers bus - Metrobus YV03RBU was arriving about the same time yesterday.
Quote from: mikestone on May 28, 2023, 11:53:04 AMIt has been pointed out to me that it may well have been a farmers bus - Metrobus YV03RBU was arriving about the same time yesterday.
Could have been London General liveried Y843 TGH which is owned by the farm
Select Bus 35 YJ64DZL is now in fleet livery
Looking at the Notices and Proceedings for the 16/06, I note page 12 shows the cancellation of the 36 on the 22 July. The 381 is another of those services I used to use in times gone by... It was never well populated when I caught it
Quote from: Budgie on June 22, 2023, 09:23:03 PMLooking at the Notices and Proceedings for the 16/06, I note page 12 shows the cancellation of the 36 on the 22 July. The 381 is another of those services I used to use in times gone by... It was never well populated when I caught it
Wonder if it'll go up for tender can imagine most likely Diamond or possibly Chaserider going in for it if it does.
Quote from: hlliwmai on June 22, 2023, 11:36:56 PMWonder if it'll go up for tender can imagine most likely Diamond or possibly Chaserider going in for it if it does.
According to the Staffordshire County Council website, it has been put out to tender by TfWM.
11 MX54KYF - Withdrawn
Quote from: hlliwmai on June 22, 2023, 11:36:56 PMWonder if it'll go up for tender can imagine most likely Diamond or possibly Chaserider going in for it if it does.
As noted under the Chaserider thread, services 35A and 36 will be operated by Chaserider under tender from 23rd July 2023.
11 MX54KYF now scrapped
Quote from: Jamie A on July 06, 2023, 08:53:29 PM11 MX54KYF now scrapped
it only seems 5 mins since the 2 of those arrived. Any replacement on the horizon? Also did the citaro ever get used
1 FJ55BWA & 27 FJ55BWD have both now left for scrap
Quote from: Jamie A on July 11, 2023, 06:11:14 PM1 FJ55BWA & 27 FJ55BWD have both now left for scrap
Quite liked the arriva darts. Sad they've gone now. Bit of the arriva dart history at cannock now a memory
They served their purpose with us but the ex stagecoach darts are much better
Quote from: Dennis Dart Plaxton Pointer on July 11, 2023, 06:27:40 PMQuite liked the arriva darts. Sad they've gone now. Bit of the arriva dart history at cannock now a memory
Quote from: Jamie A on July 11, 2023, 06:57:49 PMThey served their purpose with us but the ex stagecoach darts are much better
the Thandi ones? I doubt they had little or any maintenance when owned by them
Quote from: hlliwmai on July 11, 2023, 07:10:40 PMthe Thandi ones? I doubt they had little or any maintenance when owned by them
Source? Quite a damaging thing to say on a public forum!
Quote from: Straightlines on July 11, 2023, 09:06:49 PMSource? Quite a damaging thing to say on a public forum!
Not really they don't exist anymore anyway
Quote from: hlliwmai on July 11, 2023, 09:16:00 PMNot really they don't exist anymore anyway
Thandi Executive are still operating
Are these the same batch of vehicles that appear to be travelling long distances around the country to places like Lincoln / Oxford etc doing Rail Replacement work and working for Guru Travel?
Maintenance seems well enough to be able to cope with these distances on a regular basis...
Quote from: Tony on July 11, 2023, 10:11:48 PMThandi Executive are still operating
Yes but not the bus side of the business
Quote from: hlliwmai on July 11, 2023, 11:23:21 PMYes but not the bus side of the business
So that makes it ok to make unsubstantiated claims about an existing company.
Quote from: Jamie A on July 11, 2023, 06:57:49 PMThey served their purpose with us but the ex stagecoach darts are much better
Least you managed to keep em going a lot longer than Chaserider could
Quote from: hlliwmai on July 11, 2023, 07:10:40 PMthe Thandi ones? I doubt they had little or any maintenance when owned by them
We only had one from thandi and it was in a much better state than the arriva ones.
Many of us of a certain age will remember the Thandi/Transol/Taj Coaches era of the 80s/90s where that reputation was well known.
Thankfully with more stringent TC/VOSA checks and a better understanding of customer service needs, operators have understood the need for a greater approach to maintenance and image. Gone are the days of buying any old nail and pressing it into service to make a few bob.
I always live by the mantra - if I wouldn't say it in court, I wouldn't post it here!
Are 15- YX 13 BNU and 36 - SGZ 3534 still in their old livery ? I know 37 - Yj 08 PKX is still white because I saw it in Stafford yesterday. Any sign of repaints if they are ?
Quote from: Grinder on July 19, 2023, 10:03:49 AMAre 15- YX 13 BNU and 36 - SGZ 3534 still in their old livery ? I know 37 - Yj 08 PKX is still white because I saw it in Stafford yesterday. Any sign of repaints if they are ?
15 YX13BNU is in Travel Telford livery
36 SGZ3534 is still grey
Versa 37 YJ08PKX is still blue/grey
Versa 3 YJ08PKY is still white
Pulsar 33 YJ57BOH is still white
E200 32 KX08HMD is still white
Repaints will hopefully be happening during the school summer holidays
Thanks Jamie A
Versa.s SV60CCO/CCX are here according to the June ensign email from Ross Newmann.
Quote from: mikestone on July 22, 2023, 04:13:55 PMVersa.s SV60CCO/CCX are here according to the June ensign email from Ross Newmann.
Purchased but not here yet
New to Stagecoach Bluebird as hi spec Airport shuttle services
Quote from: Jamie A on July 22, 2023, 10:16:26 PMPurchased but not here yet
Is the end near for the remaining darts?
Quote from: Capitalpotter on July 24, 2023, 07:19:59 AMIs the end near for the remaining darts?
No plans to retire the remaining 4 darts yet
Morning all,
Does anyone have a route map of service 804 to Rodbaston college with pick up points in and around Brownhills particularly the nearest pick up to Brownhills West. Its not at all clear on Selects website and when they were phoned the lady said she didnt know and couldnt help.
Thanks in anticipation.
Quote from: 888DUK on July 28, 2023, 08:04:00 AMMorning all,
Does anyone have a route map of service 804 to Rodbaston college with pick up points in and around Brownhills particularly the nearest pick up to Brownhills West. Its not at all clear on Selects website and when they were phoned the lady said she didnt know and couldnt help.
Thanks in anticipation.
Drop me a message and I'll tell you all the stops on that service
Versa SV60CCO is now here, I will confirm fleet number as soon as I know, this will be the next to be painted when bus 3 returns
Quote from: Jamie A on August 10, 2023, 06:50:48 PMVersa SV60CCO is now here, I will confirm fleet number as soon as I know, this will be the next to be painted when bus 3 returns
Hope it goes on 875 looks mint
Apparently Select have won the contract for 406 Uttoxeter outer circle service from Diamond EM 3rd September.
Quote from: twbc99 on August 20, 2023, 07:27:56 PMApparently Select have won the contract for 406 Uttoxeter outer circle service from Diamond EM 3rd September.
According to gov.uk the change is in October as the service is cancelled by Diamond from 1st October.
Select are also gaining the 297 (Bridgnorth - Kidderminster) and 436 (Bridgnorth - Shrewsbury) which is 4 buses worth of work. As well as the 406 which is another bus worth of work.
Shame Select don't try to capitalise on dead mileage by doing dead mileage runs.
Quote from: Rachvince53 on August 20, 2023, 08:42:09 PMAccording to gov.uk the change is in October as the service is cancelled by Diamond from 1st October.
The new timetables are on the Select website with the 406 dated as the 4th September.
Quote from: IMarkeh on August 21, 2023, 06:22:46 PMSelect are also gaining the 297 (Bridgnorth - Kidderminster) and 436 (Bridgnorth - Shrewsbury) which is 4 buses worth of work. As well as the 406 which is another bus worth of work.
Shame Select don't try to capitalise on dead mileage by doing dead mileage runs.
They've got a new depot opening in Telford so dead millage won't be that high
Quote from: Dennis Dart Plaxton Pointer on August 21, 2023, 06:38:41 PMThey've got a new depot opening in Telford so dead millage won't be that high
Oh really? Interesting. Just for Select or will it be shared with Chaserider for their Telford tenders?
Even so, the point still remains, Select has a lot of dead mileage and could significantly improve the overall network (bearing in mind the combined ticketing with Chaserider) which then increases bus patronage in the area benefitting everyone.
Quote from: IMarkeh on August 21, 2023, 09:09:09 PMOh really? Interesting. Just for Select or will it be shared with Chaserider for their Telford tenders?
Even so, the point still remains, Select has a lot of dead mileage and could significantly improve the overall network (bearing in mind the combined ticketing with Chaserider) which then increases bus patronage in the area benefitting everyone.
The depot is for Select Bus only, not Chaserider
The second versa SV60CCX is now here
Quote from: Jamie A on August 21, 2023, 09:54:56 PMThe depot is for Select Bus only, not Chaserider
How many buses will be based at the new depot.
Quote from: Capitalpotter on August 22, 2023, 12:10:37 PMHow many buses will be based at the new depot.
Guessing 8.
Quote from: twbc99 on August 21, 2023, 06:35:26 PMThe new timetables are on the Select website with the 406 dated as the 4th September.
The information on gov.uk is clearly wrong as Diamond Bus website also states it to be no longer run by them from 4th September. Thank you for clarifying the situation.
E200 MMC's GW/JW65GSW both here.... Fleet numbers to be confirmed
Versa SV60CCO is numbered 27
Versa SV60CCX is numbered 11
Are the deckers still in use here (17,19,20,36)? Also not seen 21 and 33 out for a while.
Quote from: mranon on September 07, 2023, 08:15:15 AMAre the deckers still in use here (17,19,20,36)? Also not seen 21 and 33 out for a while.
Deckers 19/20 are back on their school services
21/33 will be returning to service very soon
There again 33 hasn't been seen in ages either
SV60CCO was at Pitcher Bank at lunchtime - it did not appear to have any fleetnames or fleetnumbers.
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I keep missing the GSW's - one or both of which retain Red Rose livery
GW65GSW was in Goal Square this afternoon on the 8 - bustimes appears to have it as 40 JW65BUS.
Has anyone any photographic evidence of the existence of a vehicle registered JW65BUS - I've tried google and all I could find was a note on a photo of EsomethingRRT.
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Where does bustimes get its registration info from?
I'd have thought operators using fleetnumbers only entered that in the machine?
QuoteHas anyone any photographic evidence of the existence of a vehicle registered JW65BUS - I've tried google and all I could find was a note on a photo of EsomethingRRT.
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Where does bustimes get its registration info from?
I'd have thought operators using fleetnumbers only entered that in the machine?
No photos of it at select yet, but it was previously registered JW65 GSW with red rose travel im like 80% sure.
QuoteHas anyone any photographic evidence of the existence of a vehicle registered JW65BUS - I've tried google and all I could find was a note on a photo of EsomethingRRT.
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Where does bustimes get its registration info from?
I'd have thought operators using fleetnumbers only entered that in the machine?
The ExRRT plate was a private plate which replaced the JW65GSW at Red Rose. Red Rose use private plates on a number of their vehicles.
JW65 was new to Whitelaw -
@Tony has photographed it https://wmbusphotos.com/NONWM/SW/WhitelawsJW65GSW.html
Thanks - but that's not what I asked. Bustimes has it as JW65BUS - the only other references appear to be
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/199155338@N04/53190310197/in/photolist-2p3ff6K
which is E20RRT
and
https://fleetreport.co.uk/latest-news/13th-september-2023
Quote from: mikestone on September 17, 2023, 05:50:18 PMThanks - but that's not what I asked. Bustimes has it as JW65BUS - the only other references appear to be
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/199155338@N04/53190310197/in/photolist-2p3ff6K
which is E20RRT
and
https://fleetreport.co.uk/latest-news/13th-september-2023
JW65 BUS isn't a valid registration on DVSA website, so an error on Bustimes
Quote from: Tony on September 17, 2023, 06:10:25 PMJW65 BUS isn't a valid registration on DVSA website, so an error on Bustimes
It's JW65GSW and GW65GSW that are here
Quote from: Tony on September 17, 2023, 06:10:25 PMJW65 BUS isn't a valid registration on DVSA website, so an error on Bustimes
Someone edited the registration number last week it seems:
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/slbs-bus-40/history
its seems that select has also bought another two 8.9 e200mmcs reg
SN65 ZGZ
SN65 ZHA
as per the bus shop website
Ex WCM Scotrail branded
Very interesting that Select are refusing to take card on the 67. Driver claims that it's been turned off. Funny how even Lets Go and Banga Bus can somehow provide basic facilities like contactless but Select can't.
Bus 28 seems to like aggressively jerking when idling too which is just lovely. Anyone looking at the bus must think passengers are all loopy.
Lack of information on the 67 timetable as well. Traveling says all trips serve the prison. Selects website timetable doesn't say anything about the prison. Tracking suggests drivers only serve when they feel like it. What a way to run a tendered bus service.
On the 875 and seats are threadbare and even tape on the seats where clearly it had all seen better days. Drivers bragging about missing bits of the route out to make up time and the seemingly lack of ops person so buses running 1hr plus late just carry on or drivers do their own thing to sort it out. On the trip I went on, we went through 4 timing points more than 1 minute early, maximum of 4 minutes early.
If I was Mr Peddle, I'd be damn ashamed to say I have shares in this business. Sadly the only reason this form is growing because of tenders and being begged to expand into new areas. It's certainly not their quality that is keeping them going. It's no wonder Staffordshire struggles to get people on buses with these lot and Chaserider.
LK04NNB in Pitcher Bank at lunchtime.
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Is it likely to stick on that turn or swop with the other decker?
Quote from: IMarkeh on September 25, 2023, 02:10:52 PMVery interesting that Select are refusing to take card on the 67. Driver claims that it's been turned off. Funny how even Lets Go and Banga Bus can somehow provide basic facilities like contactless but Select can't.
Select Bus are not "refusing" to take card payments on service 67
Unfortunately this is an error ticketers end which we are waiting for them to amend the problem,
Quote from: mikestone on September 25, 2023, 03:51:47 PMLK04NNB in Pitcher Bank at lunchtime.
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Is it likely to stick on that turn or swop with the other decker?
LK04NBB will be out till 6pm
Quote from: IMarkeh on September 25, 2023, 02:10:52 PMVery interesting that Select are refusing to take card on the 67. Driver claims that it's been turned off. Funny how even Lets Go and Banga Bus can somehow provide basic facilities like contactless but Select can't.
They're also one of the few if only local operators not accepting Nbus and Nnetwork tickets in the West Midlands.
Quote from: Jamie A on September 25, 2023, 04:09:23 PMSelect Bus are not "refusing" to take card payments on service 67
Unfortunately this is an error ticketers end which we are waiting for them to amend the problem,
I did think there was something wrong with the machines the other day when I boarded the 875 in Cannock I scanned my Chaserider Staff Pass on the machine and I think it came up on the machine with BARCODE DENIED I just showed my pass to the driver I knew it wasn't my pass because it worked perfectly fine on a 74 in Stafford
Quote from: Jamie A on September 25, 2023, 04:10:46 PMLK04NBB will be out till 6pm
Sorry - didn't make myself clear.
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What I meant was will it work that board daily or am I likely to find other DDs out - or was it a one-off?
Quote from: IMarkeh on September 25, 2023, 03:28:11 PMBus 28 seems to like aggressively jerking when idling too which is just lovely. Anyone looking at the bus must think passengers are all loopy.
Lack of information on the 67 timetable as well. Traveling says all trips serve the prison. Selects website timetable doesn't say anything about the prison. Tracking suggests drivers only serve when they feel like it. What a way to run a tendered bus service.
On the 875 and seats are threadbare and even tape on the seats where clearly it had all seen better days. Drivers bragging about missing bits of the route out to make up time and the seemingly lack of ops person so buses running 1hr plus late just carry on or drivers do their own thing to sort it out. On the trip I went on, we went through 4 timing points more than 1 minute early, maximum of 4 minutes early.
If I was Mr Peddle, I'd be damn ashamed to say I have shares in this business. Sadly the only reason this form is growing because of tenders and being begged to expand into new areas. It's certainly not their quality that is keeping them going. It's no wonder Staffordshire struggles to get people on buses with these lot and Chaserider.
Which vehicle are you referring to as having threadbare seats?
I know 1 of the commanders (25 I think) has a couple of taped seats, this is due to the seats been damaged whilst operating a school service, this is a matter been dealt with between the MD and the school in question, replacement seat bases will be put on to replace the damaged ones
Do you have dates and times when the service has missed out parts of the route to catch time up and contacted the company so this can be investigated by the company?
The only time I can think of a service running an hour late was Friday, this was due to Stafford being almost at a standstill, this was caused by all the roadworks in Stafford and problems on the M6 but again, if you email the company with dates and times, this can be looked into
Answer to both is 25. If it was any company which was half reputable or cared about it's perception to passengers, the bus wouldn't have ever gone out again until it was fixed.
Quote from: Jamie A on September 25, 2023, 10:20:29 PMDo you have dates and times when the service has missed out parts of the route to catch time up and contacted the company so this can be investigated by the company?
The only time I can think of a service running an hour late was Friday, this was due to Stafford being almost at a standstill, this was caused by all the roadworks in Stafford and problems on the M6 but again, if you email the company with dates and times, this can be looked into
Quoting what a driver was bragging about with passengers. Not my personal experience.
It's very interesting to also note that the driver didn't want to take people to Goal Square on the 875 either. I jumped off a few stops earlier because it worked out quicker but they announced it was terminating at Shrewsbury Hotel. Checking tracking, this shows as correct and then sat there for a short time before running onto a 9. from my observations and from overhearing drivers, it's clear to see that drivers are just left to do what they want and something is only done when a complaint comes in (though I doubt emails even get read)
3 MX53FEH has now gone for scrap
12 KX06LNU-Withdrawn
Quote from: IMarkeh on September 26, 2023, 02:22:55 AMAnswer to both is 25. If it was any company which was half reputable or cared about it's perception to passengers, the bus wouldn't have ever gone out again until it was fixed.
Quoting what a driver was bragging about with passengers. Not my personal experience.
It's very interesting to also note that the driver didn't want to take people to Goal Square on the 875 either. I jumped off a few stops earlier because it worked out quicker but they announced it was terminating at Shrewsbury Hotel. Checking tracking, this shows as correct and then sat there for a short time before running onto a 9. from my observations and from overhearing drivers, it's clear to see that drivers are just left to do what they want and something is only done when a complaint comes in (though I doubt emails even get read)
Apologies for the delayed reply
I have passed on your comments to the MD and the garage manager
Your comments about the prison being served "when drivers feel like it"
The driver in question was actually spoken to about this, it was a simple error on the drivers part as he is new to the company and not familiar with the area, a very easy mistake to make which I myself have done in the past on that service
Having checked bus 25, the 1 seat with tape on has now been replaced, the whole of the bus isn't completely threadbare
As for drivers "not wanting to take passengers round to Gail Sq." Pitcherbank is where driver changeovers take place, passengers don't have to exit the vehicle here, the 875 isn't due at Gaol Sq. till 55 the hour before going onto a 9, if the bus has got to Stafford a few minutes earlier then it will wait it's time at Pitcher bank/Shrewsbury Arms
Quote from: Jamie A on October 08, 2023, 06:58:47 PMYour comments about the prison being served "when drivers feel like it"
The driver in question was actually spoken to about this, it was a simple error on the drivers part as he is new to the company and not familiar with the area, a very easy mistake to make which I myself have done in the past on that service
Shouldn't the driver have been route learning though which would have solved that? One or two off makes I have a lot more understanding for and I agree it could be a mistake but it was happening far too often.
Quote from: Jamie A on October 08, 2023, 06:58:47 PMAs for drivers "not wanting to take passengers round to Gail Sq." Pitcherbank is where driver changeovers take place, passengers don't have to exit the vehicle here, the 875 isn't due at Gaol Sq. till 55 the hour before going onto a 9, if the bus has got to Stafford a few minutes earlier then it will wait it's time at Pitcher bank/Shrewsbury Arms
The bus was only running early because the driver went through 4 timing points early. Not bad for a route which only has 5 intermediate timing points. Even so, as if the buses aren't confusing enough around the town centre with many starting and finishing in completely different places, you then choose to have the driver changeover two stops before the terminus (and given the comradery between staff, which is good to see but it has it's down falls like this, you can be sure that the driver changeover will not be quick and that it will be quicker for passengers to walk). That's not the most passenger friendly. I know that you aren't exactly blessed with the infrastructure in Stafford for layovers and proper driver changeovers but passengers should not have to suffer driver changeovers so close to the terminus. Anyway, that wasn't the issue. The issue was a driver announcing the bus not serving the last stops. It'd be interesting to see what results would come back if someone monitored departures from Shrewsbury Arms as I think that they would find a number of buses missing between there and Gaol Square.
Quote from: IMarkeh on October 09, 2023, 07:02:28 PMShouldn't the driver have been route learning though which would have solved that? One or two off makes I have a lot more understanding for and I agree it could be a mistake but it was happening far too often.
The bus was only running early because the driver went through 4 timing points early. Not bad for a route which only has 5 intermediate timing points. Even so, as if the buses aren't confusing enough around the town centre with many starting and finishing in completely different places, you then choose to have the driver changeover two stops before the terminus (and given the comradery between staff, which is good to see but it has it's down falls like this, you can be sure that the driver changeover will not be quick and that it will be quicker for passengers to walk). That's not the most passenger friendly. I know that you aren't exactly blessed with the infrastructure in Stafford for layovers and proper driver changeovers but passengers should not have to suffer driver changeovers so close to the terminus. Anyway, that wasn't the issue. The issue was a driver announcing the bus not serving the last stops. It'd be interesting to see what results would come back if someone monitored departures from Shrewsbury Arms as I think that they would find a number of buses missing between there and Gaol Square.
The driver has been route learned on this service, the driver is not local to that area so as I said previously it's an easy mistake to make and the driver was spoken to about this
You say it "was happening far too often" therefore you are implying that several drivers do this? My advice if this happens would be to contact the office by either phone or email and this can be looked into
You say the bus went through 4 timing points early, have you raised this with the company so they can find out who the driver was and speak to them?
As for a driver shouting "they've missed part of the route out"
For a driver to do this, they would have to contact the traffic office, explain how late they are and why they are so late then the staff in the traffic office will advise the driver what to do, I do know a few Fridays ago, Stafford was grid locked and we had an 875 running an hour late, it arrived at Cannock 5 minutes before the next 1 was due so in that situation it would make sense to tell the late driver to run "direct" rather than have 2 875's running to get her?
Current fleet
1 SR13BOF
2 MX55WDJ
3 YJ08PKY
4 FJ56YBV
5 FX04TJY
6 MX53FEG
7 YN07EYD
8 BD14KXU
9 WA09FHK
10 MIG8170
11 SV60CCX
12 KX06LNU-Withdrawn
14 NK56EPO
15 YX13BNU
16 YJ54BTV
17 LX06AHA
18 YJ07JWD
19 LK04NNB
20 LK04NNH
21 KX55UDD
22 GX06DXA
23 FJ06ZTG
24 YN63BYO
25 YJ56JXX
26 FJ06ZTH
27 SV60CCO
28 KX58GTF
29 KX09CHZ
30 FJ06ZTL
31 FJ06ZTM
32 KX08HMD
33 YJ57BOH
34 YJ05WCV
35 YJ64DZL
36 SGZ3534
37 YJ08PKX
38 YX65RHJ
40 GW65GSW
41 JW65GSW
Quote from: Jamie A on October 09, 2023, 07:24:33 PMThe driver has been route learned on this service, the driver is not local to that area so as I said previously it's an easy mistake to make and the driver was spoken to about this
You say it "was happening far too often" therefore you are implying that several drivers do this? My advice if this happens would be to contact the office by either phone or email and this can be looked into
You say the bus went through 4 timing points early, have you raised this with the company so they can find out who the driver was and speak to them?
As for a driver shouting "they've missed part of the route out"
For a driver to do this, they would have to contact the traffic office, explain how late they are and why they are so late then the staff in the traffic office will advise the driver what to do, I do know a few Fridays ago, Stafford was grid locked and we had an 875 running an hour late, it arrived at Cannock 5 minutes before the next 1 was due so in that situation it would make sense to tell the late driver to run "direct" rather than have 2 875's running to get her?
Theres no point contacting the office, nothing gets done. I know someone who is still waiting for a reply from 2021 and I am awaiting a reply from nearly 3 weeks ago so evidently it's a waste of time.
With regards to your last point, I agree that it was better to send one of the buses fast to catch up time, that is the bit I have no issue with. It was reported though by one of the drivers that this had to be sorted amongst themselves though and further bragging that on numerous occasions they have managed to not get caught up in traffic by using 'shortcuts that not everyone is comfortable using'.
This could go on forever. The salient facts are these though. Drivers don't like following the correct route and running at the correct times. That much is clear and I would love for the traffic commissioner to turn up as I highly doubt Select would have a licence left by the time punctuality checks were done and that the focus is quite clearly not on passengers and trying to provide the best bus network and service for passengers. The networks a mess, the drivers don't want to run to the board and the buses, at times, aren't in the best condition for passengers.
Quote from: IMarkeh on October 10, 2023, 05:27:30 PMTheres no point contacting the office, nothing gets done. I know someone who is still waiting for a reply from 2021 and I am awaiting a reply from nearly 3 weeks ago so evidently it's a waste of time.
With regards to your last point, I agree that it was better to send one of the buses fast to catch up time, that is the bit I have no issue with. It was reported though by one of the drivers that this had to be sorted amongst themselves though and further bragging that on numerous occasions they have managed to not get caught up in traffic by using 'shortcuts that not everyone is comfortable using'.
This could go on forever. The salient facts are these though. Drivers don't like following the correct route and running at the correct times. That much is clear and I would love for the traffic commissioner to turn up as I highly doubt Select would have a licence left by the time punctuality checks were done and that the focus is quite clearly not on passengers and trying to provide the best bus network and service for passengers. The networks a mess, the drivers don't want to run to the board and the buses, at times, aren't in the best condition for passengers.
You say there's no point in contacting the office, the person you claim is waiting for a response from 2021, what steps have they taken to find out what's happening? Have they made contact with the company?
What have you done about waiting for a response from 3 weeks ago as you claim?
If you can provide dates and times of drivers not running the correct route and not running the correct times then please email your evidence of this to the company so it can be looked into and if the driver is found to be at fault, then action will be taken against the driver following the company's procedure
I'm interested to know why you think the network is a "mess"?
Final point is which vehicles do you refer to are not in the best condition for passengers? We are currently in the process of renewing the fleet with newer vehicles?
In the past year we have had 11 newer vehicles join the fleet to replace ageing vehicles, a further 4 vehicles are expected in the next few weeks which will replace another 4 vehicles
You just appear to of come on this forum to slate the company which is not what this forum is for?
I'm also interested to know how well your bus company is doing because you're giving the impression you are some sort of expert?
I look forward to your response, have a lovely evening
Quote from: Jamie A on October 10, 2023, 08:32:40 PMYou say there's no point in contacting the office, the person you claim is waiting for a response from 2021, what steps have they taken to find out what's happening? Have they made contact with the company?
What have you done about waiting for a response from 3 weeks ago as you claim?
People shouldn't need to spam the office to get replies. One contact should be enough. If you gave a stuff about your passengers, you'd get a reply. Even Arriva and their highly slated customer service team can manage to give replies to people! It's not on the passenger to spam emails to get replies, it's on the operator to read and respond to the emails.
Quote from: Jamie A on October 10, 2023, 08:32:40 PMI'm interested to know why you think the network is a "mess"?
7 has quite a different timetable on Mon-Fri versus Sat. Plus somehow manages to run 2 trips a completely different way to the normal 7 but keeps the same route number
8A should be split so Parkside-Stafford AM and Stafford - Parkside PM are numbered route 8, this is to reduce confusion as the 8A runs completely different routes AM and PM.
9 is seemingly about 4-5 different variations all under a single route number. Timetables have so few timing points that no one can differentiate between them and there seems to be no contact with the council or whomever your Traveline agent is to sort the data properly as well.
875 very strange variation on the 19:05 which should definitely be renumbered. 8xx series of route number makes no sense, up and down the country operators are reducing route numbers to make it simpler for passengers, what was wrong with the 75? Wednesday diversion via Rodbaston College doesn't have any proper timings, how can the bus arrive into Cannock at the same time as other days when it's got a 5-10 minute diversion to make?
875A, a route number which is daft as it has little no relevance to the 875 route (different stops in Stafford Town Centre, only runs a few trips Mon-Fri, completely different outbound route, should be numbered appropriately)
877/878 significantly different timetable Mon-Fri versus Saturday. Far too many different route variations under a single route number.
The network mess situation isn't helped by either yourselves or the council uploading poor data to Traveline which is completely different to the timetables on your website, which again is completely different to the actual bus tracking (over long periods). Complete lack of consistency everywhere, how anyone uses your services outside of 9-2 I really don't know as there is so much missing or wrong information between all of the information sources. If it's not your data going to Traveline (as I know Traveline now populates itself using operators data more now than it used to), you need to get in touch urgently with the various councils and sort out the information.
Quote from: Jamie A on October 10, 2023, 08:32:40 PMIn the past year we have had 11 newer vehicles join the fleet to replace ageing vehicles, a further 4 vehicles are expected in the next few weeks which will replace another 4 vehicles
Yes there has been some investment in newer vehicles but the PVR has also increased significantly with new contracts so it's not really a fair comparison of your current fleet versus last year.
Quote from: Jamie A on October 10, 2023, 08:32:40 PMYou just appear to of come on this forum to slate the company which is not what this forum is for?
I'm also interested to know how well your bus company is doing because you're giving the impression you are some sort of expert?
This is an enthusiasts forum and like many others do with other operators, they state their experiences. I can't help that you have gotten all touchy about it and want to defend the indefensible. As for your last point, I love that question. When companies can't take criticism so they deflect. My comments come from a passengers perspective and a perspective of wanting to grow bus patronage across the country. Sadly it's got a long way to go in Staffordshire (and some surrounding areas) with the low quality of yourselves and Chaserider. It takes a lot to be worse than Arriva, and yet somehow, you prove day in, day out that it is possible.
Quote from: IMarkeh on October 12, 2023, 03:53:40 AMPeople shouldn't need to spam the office to get replies. One contact should be enough. If you gave a stuff about your passengers, you'd get a reply. Even Arriva and their highly slated customer service team can manage to give replies to people! It's not on the passenger to spam emails to get replies, it's on the operator to read and respond to the emails.
7 has quite a different timetable on Mon-Fri versus Sat. Plus somehow manages to run 2 trips a completely different way to the normal 7 but keeps the same route number
8A should be split so Parkside-Stafford AM and Stafford - Parkside PM are numbered route 8, this is to reduce confusion as the 8A runs completely different routes AM and PM.
9 is seemingly about 4-5 different variations all under a single route number. Timetables have so few timing points that no one can differentiate between them and there seems to be no contact with the council or whomever your Traveline agent is to sort the data properly as well.
875 very strange variation on the 19:05 which should definitely be renumbered. 8xx series of route number makes no sense, up and down the country operators are reducing route numbers to make it simpler for passengers, what was wrong with the 75? Wednesday diversion via Rodbaston College doesn't have any proper timings, how can the bus arrive into Cannock at the same time as other days when it's got a 5-10 minute diversion to make?
875A, a route number which is daft as it has little no relevance to the 875 route (different stops in Stafford Town Centre, only runs a few trips Mon-Fri, completely different outbound route, should be numbered appropriately)
877/878 significantly different timetable Mon-Fri versus Saturday. Far too many different route variations under a single route number.
The network mess situation isn't helped by either yourselves or the council uploading poor data to Traveline which is completely different to the timetables on your website, which again is completely different to the actual bus tracking (over long periods). Complete lack of consistency everywhere, how anyone uses your services outside of 9-2 I really don't know as there is so much missing or wrong information between all of the information sources. If it's not your data going to Traveline (as I know Traveline now populates itself using operators data more now than it used to), you need to get in touch urgently with the various councils and sort out the information.
Yes there has been some investment in newer vehicles but the PVR has also increased significantly with new contracts so it's not really a fair comparison of your current fleet versus last year.
This is an enthusiasts forum and like many others do with other operators, they state their experiences. I can't help that you have gotten all touchy about it and want to defend the indefensible. As for your last point, I love that question. When companies can't take criticism so they deflect. My comments come from a passengers perspective and a perspective of wanting to grow bus patronage across the country. Sadly it's got a long way to go in Staffordshire (and some surrounding areas) with the low quality of yourselves and Chaserider. It takes a lot to be worse than Arriva, and yet somehow, you prove day in, day out that it is possible.
Unfortunately operators like these are a by-product of the 'race to the bottom' mentality that inhibits so many parts of this industry.
Quote from: Straightlines on October 12, 2023, 09:20:28 AMUnfortunately operators like these are a by-product of the 'race to the bottom' mentality that inhibits so many parts of this industry.
Not quite sure what you mean by that
@Straightlines ?
Quote from: Straightlines on October 12, 2023, 09:20:28 AMUnfortunately operators like these are a by-product of the 'race to the bottom' mentality that inhibits so many parts of this industry.
Very true. It was always the case that birmingham had all of the poor bus operators, now that has moved slightly further north into Staffordshire. Suppose it's easy to get away with being a poor operator in Staffordshire because the council don't care whereas in the West Mids, theres more partnerships and stuff going on so it's getting increasingly harder to be a cowboy operator.
Optare Metrocity YJ15AAU is now here
Quote from: Jamie A on October 17, 2023, 09:50:25 PMOptare Metrocity YJ15AAU is now here
why is there no select logo on it ...... lol asking for a friend on facebook group lol .... looks smart btw :-)
12 KX06LNU - Scrap
Quote from: hlliwmai on September 25, 2023, 06:39:50 PMI did think there was something wrong with the machines the other day when I boarded the 875 in Cannock I scanned my Chaserider Staff Pass on the machine and I think it came up on the machine with BARCODE DENIED I just showed my pass to the driver I knew it wasn't my pass because it worked perfectly fine on a 74 in Stafford
there's nothing wrong, they just aren't set up to accept Chaserider staff passes
Current fleet
1 SR13BOF
2 MX55WDJ
3 YJ08PKY
4 FJ56YBV
5 FX04TJY
6 MX53FEG
7 YN07EYD
8 BD14KXU
9 WA09FHK
10 MIG8170
11 SV60CCX
12 YJ15AAU
14 NK56EPO
15 YX13BNU
16 YJ54BTV - Withdrawn
17 LX06AHA
18 YJ07JWD
19 LK04NNB
20 LK04NNH
21 KX55UDD
22 GX06DXA
23 FJ06ZTG
24 YN63BYO
25 YJ56JXX
26 FJ06ZTH
27 SV60CCO
28 KX58GTF
29 KX09CHZ
30 FJ06ZTL
31 FJ06ZTM
32 KX08HMD
33 YJ57BOH
34 YJ05WCV
35 YJ64DZL
36 SGZ3534
37 YJ08PKX
38 YX65RHJ
40 GW65GSW
41 JW65GSW
15 SK52OJG - Withdrawn
3 MX53FEH, 4 BA07GHA, 12 KX06LNU, 27 FJ55BWD all scrapped
Just waiting for a train at Stafford and I noticed JW65GSW which I need a photo of, is on the 9 due at the Station at 0655 according to the timetable, so walk outside to see it go past at 0646 9 minutes early
Quote from: Tony on November 23, 2023, 07:07:15 AMJust waiting for a train at Stafford and I noticed JW65GSW which I need a photo of, is on the 9 due at the Station at 0655 according to the timetable, so walk outside to see it go past at 0646 9 minutes early
The train station isn't a timing point, we get 20 minutes from highfields into town at that time of the morning and obviously if you have no traffic then you get into town ahead of schedule. So it may of appeared early but I'm sure it would of left it's first timing point on time.
As always if you have a complaint feel free to email the company and I'm sure it will be dealt with accordingly.
Quote from: ntw456 on November 23, 2023, 07:33:40 PMThe train station isn't a timing point, we get 20 minutes from highfields into town at that time of the morning and obviously if you have no traffic then you get into town ahead of schedule. So it may of appeared early but I'm sure it would of left it's first timing point on time.
As always if you have a complaint feel free to email the company and I'm sure it will be dealt with accordingly.
6 minutes for a journey timetabled to take 15 minutes must mean the scheduling is not correct them (06:40 journey from Highfields at the station at 06:46?)
If a bus is advertised to depart at a time then that's the time it should leave there, poor excuse to use it not being a timing point. Wonder why bus usage is dropping
Quote from: Mayfield on November 23, 2023, 08:50:15 PMIf a bus is advertised to depart at a time then that's the time it should leave there, poor excuse to use it not being a timing point. Wonder why bus usage is dropping
I think Tony has explained this better a while ago on the NX feed but buses are only required to observe timing points, not individual stops. I agree that in an ideal world the time the bus is due at each stop irrespective of whether its a timing point should be the time it leaves said stop but that's not how it works.
Quote from: ntw456 on November 23, 2023, 07:33:40 PMAs always if you have a complaint feel free to email the company and I'm sure it will be dealt with accordingly.
It won't do anything. Select, like every cowboy operator, ignores all emails
Quote from: Tony on November 23, 2023, 07:47:12 PM6 minutes for a journey timetabled to take 15 minutes must mean the scheduling is not correct them (06:40 journey from Highfields at the station at 06:46?)
First issue is poor scheduling, as per with Select, no one has the skills to create a proper timetable which reflects the differing traffic conditions. Secondly, They have specifically done the timetables with no intermediate timing points because they put operational convenience over passengers. They want it so that the traffic commissioner can't have them for late running but also don't want to put in timing points because it would upset their drivers who all want to floor it to get a longer fag break at the end.
In response to your journey though, purely based off bustimes tracking, it seems to show the bus left Highfield 2 minutes early.
Quote from: Mayfield on November 23, 2023, 08:50:15 PMIf a bus is advertised to depart at a time then that's the time it should leave there, poor excuse to use it not being a timing point. Wonder why bus usage is dropping
It is not suitable for every single stop to be a timing point however it is good to have a timing point at regular points so that the times can be more relied upon and then ensure that the buses leave the timing points at the correct times (another thing thing that these twits can't seem to handle. God help them if the traffic commissioner turned up checking punctuality, they'd be shut down in minutes)
I bet 99.9% of bus users don't know that as they wait for a bus that left "early" leaving them stranded.
The only time on the timetable is from Highfield - all the others are surely an invention of bustimes.org?
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No normal punter will expect a bus going to Goal Square to wait time at Stafford station
Quote from: mikestone on November 25, 2023, 01:58:29 PMThe only time on the timetable is from Highfield - all the others are surely an invention of bustimes.org?
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No normal punter will expect a bus going to Goal Square to wait time at Stafford station
Not an invention of bustimes.org but an indication of what time the bus should be there based on the information supplied by SelectBus. However the actual timings points are indeed those shown on the Select Bus Services timetable, ie Stafford Town Centre , Moss Pitts and Highfields.
Quote from: mikestone on November 25, 2023, 01:58:29 PMThe only time on the timetable is from Highfield - all the others are surely an invention of bustimes.org?
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No normal punter will expect a bus going to Goal Square to wait time at Stafford station
Bustimes only shows all stops because there are less than 15 stops in total. IF there are more stops, the timetable goes to show timing points only (similar to the outbound route).
As for your second point, why not? D&G do it on the Sunday 101. It happens in many areas for a major point such as a railway station to be a timing point, even if that stop is only a few minutes away from the terminus. The best way to avoid buses waiting time there though is to do a proper schedule which takes into account the actual journey times at different times of day.
Optare Tempo YJ60 LSL has now arrived
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Quote from: BNH2004 on November 26, 2023, 03:53:01 PMOptare Tempo YJ60 LSL has now arrived
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Blimey.... I only posted the pic 10 mins ago 😂
QuoteOptare Tempo YJ60 LSL has now arrived
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New to Wolverhampton Uni
Optare Tempo YJ60LSL fleet number 16
4 FJ56YBV-Withdrawn
Optare Solo YJ56AOZ now here and numbered 4
Is 17 - LX06 AHA the Dennis Trident/ALX400 still on fleet strength, doesn't appear to been used for some time ?
Quote from: Grinder on December 24, 2023, 10:37:20 AMIs 17 - LX06 AHA the Dennis Trident/ALX400 still on fleet strength, doesn't appear to been used for some time ?
It's been withdrawn since January (at least) when its MoT expired
More services on the Stafford locals and 875 from Monday.
7 - additional early morning journey (0525 inbound and 0635 return). Saturday service withdrawn?
8 - additional early morning journey and evening service until 2205. Saturday service withdrawn?
9 - new evening service until 2205.
875 - new evening service between Penkridge and Stafford until 2135 and 2235 respectively.
Quote from: twbc99 on January 03, 2024, 07:07:31 PMMore services on the Stafford locals and 875 from Monday.
7 - additional early morning journey (0525 inbound and 0635 return). Saturday service withdrawn?
8 - additional early morning journey and evening service until 2205. Saturday service withdrawn?
9 - new evening service until 2205.
875 - new evening service between Penkridge and Stafford until 2135 and 2235 respectively.
These funded by staffs CC?
The second Metrocity is now here in full livery
YJ15AAY
Will confirm fleet number when I 100% know what it is
Quote from: Jamie A on January 10, 2024, 03:42:45 PMThe second Metrocity is now here in full livery
YJ15AAY
Will confirm fleet number when I 100% know what it is
YJ15AAY fleet number 39
Quote from: Jamie A on January 12, 2024, 02:26:54 PMYJ15AAY fleet number 39
AAY is a Solo with Border Buses. Is this AAV from Go Goodwins?
Quote from: busfan2847 on January 12, 2024, 03:13:51 PMAAY is a Solo with Border Buses. Is this AAV from Go Goodwins?
My mistake... yes that's the 1
Quote from: twbc99 on January 03, 2024, 07:07:31 PMMore services on the Stafford locals and 875 from Monday.
7 - additional early morning journey (0525 inbound and 0635 return). Saturday service withdrawn?
8 - additional early morning journey and evening service until 2205. Saturday service withdrawn?
9 - new evening service until 2205.
875 - new evening service between Penkridge and Stafford until 2135 and 2235 respectively.
Service 8 IS running today so must be an error on their website.
Quote from: Rachvince53 on January 13, 2024, 12:31:27 PMService 8 IS running today so must be an error on their website.
They have updated there timetables, so the first update must have been wrong.
Tracker showing 38 on both 67/406 what was on them
Quote from: Solo1 on January 19, 2024, 05:34:39 AMTracker showing 38 on both 67/406 what was on them
38-406
41- 67
Ok thanks is 41 now the regular bus on 67
Volvo b7RLE BD14KXX is now here, currently allocated fleet number 14
Tried calling select earlier today, no answer, I was wondering if anyone would be able to help me, so tomorrow I will be getting the 96 from Shrewsbury to Telford then I may go on a Chaserider travel Telford route, then after that get a 96 back from Telford to Shrewsbury, will a select and Chaserider day saver cover this, will be the child ticket I'm after, anyone know of the price?
Quote from: Wba_lad on January 31, 2024, 09:07:29 PMTried calling select earlier today, no answer, I was wondering if anyone would be able to help me, so tomorrow I will be getting the 96 from Shrewsbury to Telford then I may go on a Chaserider travel Telford route, then after that get a 96 back from Telford to Shrewsbury, will a select and Chaserider day saver cover this, will be the child ticket I'm after, anyone know of the price?
Looking at the Chaserider website, there is an "all routes" day ticket costing £4.50 for under 19s, valid on Chaserider and Select buses.
While there is no mention of this on the Select website, the Chaserider site mentions tickets being available on the myTrip app -
Search for 'Chaserider' and look for the correct zone for your ticket. Looking on this I see that Select is also there, and the £4.50 all routes ticket (£6.20 for over 19s) can be purchased.
So, it looks likely that Select do offer day tickets including the all routes one. Good luck!
4 FJ56YBV- Scrapped
15 SK52OJG- Scrapped
26 FJ06ZTH- Withdrawn
Quote from: Jamie A on February 01, 2024, 09:27:49 PM4 FJ56YBV- Scrapped
15 SK52OJG- Scrapped
Was that the Centro bought at the same time as Chaseriders unlucky one that lasted a week ? 🤣
Quote from: Bob on February 01, 2024, 11:16:10 PMWas that the Centro bought at the same time as Chaseriders unlucky one that lasted a week ? 🤣
Yes mate it was 😂
26 FJ06ZTH- Scrapped
KX55UDD has inoperative front blinds - paper 67 in front windscreen.
Enviro 200 SN16OSX is now here and been given fleet number 26
Lol
A second e200 has arrived today
SN16OSW and numbered 42
what is the engine of optare metrocity yj15aav 39?
Quote from: spacecowboy150 on March 06, 2024, 04:36:31 PMwhat is the engine of optare metrocity yj15aav 39?
According to the VRM lookup we use at work, it comes up as a VERSA V1080 MC.
Shows as having a Daimler OM904 4243cc engine.
Select bus 14 the white Volvo, seen it in Cannock and it's missing a side panel.
Quote from: Wba_lad on April 02, 2024, 04:34:34 PMSelect bus 14 the white Volvo, seen it in Cannock and it's missing a side panel.
It's been rectified