After getting off the 37 in Acocks Green this evening, while crossing the road to get to Barclays Bank, I saw 4023 coming out of Westley Road onto the island, showing 885 Solihull Station on the display.
I thought at first that it was maybe getting ready to start a trip on the 1, but then I noticed there were schoolkids on board!
This was at 17:50, and having just got home and checked the timetable for the 885, the last bus is timetabled to reach Acocks Green at 16:40.
So this bus was running an hour and ten minutes late! ???
Any ideas why this could have been, and what's the latest anyone's ever known a bus to be running (not counting exceptional circumstances such as heavy snow)?
I seen it parked up at Solihull station at 17:00 not doing much
Quote from: Stu on November 14, 2013, 06:09:54 PM
After getting off the 37 in Acocks Green this evening, while crossing the road to get to Barclays Bank, I saw 4023 coming out of Westley Road onto the island, showing 885 Solihull Station on the display.
I thought at first that it was maybe getting ready to start a trip on the 1, but then I noticed there were schoolkids on board!
This was at 17:50, and having just got home and checked the timetable for the 885, the last bus is timetabled to reach Acocks Green at 16:40.
So this bus was running an hour and ten minutes late! ???
Any ideas why this could have been, and what's the latest anyone's ever known a bus to be running (not counting exceptional circumstances such as heavy snow)?
One November the 5th around 1986, I cannot remember the exact year, A thick fog came down in the evening, mixed with all the smoke from bonfires this turned into a thick smog and in some areas it was so thick you couldn't even see the road surface through the cab window. I was driving the last 590A which was around 23:00 from City down Coventry Road, Chelmsley Wood, Coleshill and terminate at Washwood Heath garage. I was due to finish at around 00:15, it was closer to 02:00 when I got back to garage despite leaving City on time. It was a less than walking pace drive through Sheldon & Coleshill
1988 remember it well. A saturday.
I remember that night well. Has to stay over at Grandparents house. Couldn't get a taxi home for love nor money. If it was 1988 then Tony, you would have been on the last few days of the 161/171
Yes, it was definitely 5 November 1988. I had been to a rugby international at Twickenham and had travelled back from Euston to Sandwell and Dudley. The drive back from there to Kingswinford was horrendous as you couldn't see the nose in front of your face. Fortunately, the section from Burnt Tree to the Lamp Tavern was above the fog and was as clear as a bell.
The 71s running together again tonight - 3 in a row, Lode lane at 17:55
Lets be honest, routes like the (4)5(1), 28, 71, 11A/C are always bound to be late running by the very nature of having to cross so many major arteries at fairly busy junctions
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 15, 2013, 06:47:30 PM
Does WB 5 count as late running services ?, they always seem to run in 3's
Tbh Nathan most frequent services such as WB5,WN59, and the Birmingham Corridor Services (Bristol Rd,Pershore Rd, Hagley Rd and Walsall Rd) run late and together due to the heavy traffic on the routes.
Eg Saw 3 59's (All with very busy loadings) this afternoon sat on Wednesfield Rd in the usual heavy traffic
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 15, 2013, 07:36:56 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 15, 2013, 06:47:30 PM
Does WB 5 count as late running services ?, they always seem to run in 3's
Tbh Nathan most frequent services such as WB5,WN59, and the Birmingham Corridor Services (Bristol Rd,Pershore Rd, Hagley Rd and Walsall Rd) run late and together due to the heavy traffic on the routes.
Eg Saw 3 59's (All with very busy loadings) this afternoon sat on Wednesfield Rd in the usual heavy traffic
Thank you Nath. Its a shame all passengers can't see it that way.
If a driver speeds, they complain. Drivers late, they complain. Drivers early, they complain. See a pattern?
Its not the company's fault for congested roads, yet they still ha e got to take the wrath.
Also sometimes you have other things that can disrupt the service such as roadworks, Incidents aboard the bus etc.
With WN 59 there is also heavy traffic in and out of Wolverhampton causing buses running together.
Moor Street In Birmingham is quite bad for congestion (Loads of 50's together)
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 15, 2013, 07:53:49 PM
Also sometimes you have other things that can disrupt the service such as roadworks, Incidents aboard the bus etc.
With WN 59 there is also heavy traffic in and out of Wolverhampton causing buses running together.
Moor Street In Birmingham is quite bad for congestion (Loads of 50's together)
But what can be done?
1) More running time around the congested points
2) Larger 'drop back' , causing more bus-related congestion
3) More running time through the rest of the route coupled with a longer 'drop back' at the outer termini, resulting in the service being guaranteed on time when leaving; most of the time.
I'd vote for option 3; it worked perfectly on the Bristol Road. And still does if I'm not mistaken.
Unfortunately, it seems a majority of passengers who use buses don't seem to appreciate that they are not 'magic devices' that can skip over traffic congestion. You only have to look at many of the comments on the NXWM Facebook page to realise this.
Heavy traffic = congestion on our roads. And buses have to travel along those same roads too you know. But yet it's the bus drivers that get the raw end.
I don't think the 126 ever runs on time ::)
Quote from: Stu on November 15, 2013, 08:07:38 PM
Unfortunately, it seems a majority of passengers who use buses don't seem to appreciate that they are not 'magic devices' that can skip over traffic congestion. You only have to look at many of the comments on the NXWM Facebook page to realise this.
Heavy traffic = congestion on our roads. And buses have to travel along those same roads too you know. But yet it's the bus drivers that get the raw end.
Or the Twitter page!! And they even moan when they get the same generic 'Sorry contact 254 7272 etc' reply. What they expect? Grrr, FFS, people nowadays!!
Quote from: Sh4166 on November 15, 2013, 08:08:49 PM
I don't think the 126 ever runs on time ::)
Again Partly affected by Moor Street being usually grid locked
Worse is when you get a bit of bad weather, and the whole city gets gridlocked. Traffic is crawling, along with the buses, at around 2mph, I do recall the once managing to gratefully get on a bus out of the cold, then a few stops further on, some irate woman starts ranting at the driver that she's had to wait nearly twenty minutes for him to turn up! On the outside, I'm a pretty cool guy, but inside I was seething and just wanted to rant across the bus "FFS woman, open your eyes and look around you at what's going on here!" >:(
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Quote from: Sh4166 on November 15, 2013, 08:08:49 PM
I don't think the 126 ever runs on time ::)
Again Partly affected by Moor Street being usually grid locked
It's not just that, I've used it most of my life, and I don't ever recall it being on time :P (actually I'm lying, it might have been on time once ;))
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 15, 2013, 08:25:28 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on November 15, 2013, 08:08:49 PM
I don't think the 126 ever runs on time ::)
Again Partly affected by Moor Street being usually grid locked
It isn't just Moor Street, a lot of the 126's route around the city centre can get clogged with traffic, plus you have anywhere along the Hagley Road slowing to walking pace at peak times, and the Birmingham New Road
Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 15, 2013, 08:27:46 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 15, 2013, 08:25:28 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on November 15, 2013, 08:08:49 PM
I don't think the 126 ever runs on time ::)
Again Partly affected by Moor Street being usually grid locked
It isn't just Moor Street, a lot of the 126's route around the city centre can get clogged with traffic, plus you have anywhere along the Hagley Road slowing to walking pace at peak times, and the Birmingham New Road
Hagley Road is abysmal at the best of times!! Disgusting piece of road.
And thats why i said 'partially affected' as i am aware that Hagley Rd and Birmingham New Rd get clogged regually ;) (I use the route regually)
Entering and Leaving Wolverhampton can be quite bad at peak times too
Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 15, 2013, 08:35:08 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 15, 2013, 08:27:46 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 15, 2013, 08:25:28 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on November 15, 2013, 08:08:49 PM
I don't think the 126 ever runs on time ::)
Again Partly affected by Moor Street being usually grid locked
It isn't just Moor Street, a lot of the 126's route around the city centre can get clogged with traffic, plus you have anywhere along the Hagley Road slowing to walking pace at peak times, and the Birmingham New Road
Hagley Road is abysmal at the best of times!! Disgusting piece of road.
Tell me about it, dangerous as well with four lanes of traffic running so close together. I would even back a speed limit reduction to 20mph between the city and Bearwood for safety reasons, which I believe has been planned
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Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 15, 2013, 08:35:08 PM
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Quote from: Sh4166 on November 15, 2013, 08:08:49 PM
I don't think the 126 ever runs on time ::)
Again Partly affected by Moor Street being usually grid locked
It isn't just Moor Street, a lot of the 126's route around the city centre can get clogged with traffic, plus you have anywhere along the Hagley Road slowing to walking pace at peak times, and the Birmingham New Road
Hagley Road is abysmal at the best of times!! Disgusting piece of road.
Tell me about it, dangerous as well with four lanes of traffic running so close together. I would even back a speed limit reduction to 20mph between the city and Bearwood for safety reasons, which I believe has been planned
20mph? Are you out of your mind? 20mph can cause just as much safety issues that 40mph does. Even the BBC shows (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19226144) that some 2,262 people were road casualties in the zones over the 2011 year - 1,966 of them minor injuries - according to the Department for Transport figures.
That will also cause more running time needed on bus routes that serve the Hagley Road, Thus increasing PVR.
I have looked at some stats (https://db.tt/8YTJ8vuT) from the DfT which I have collated and have noticed that you are more likely to die on a 30mph road than a 40mph road. (Original Stats (https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/208637/ras10001.xls))
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Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 15, 2013, 08:25:28 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on November 15, 2013, 08:08:49 PM
I don't think the 126 ever runs on time ::)
Again Partly affected by Moor Street being usually grid locked
It isn't just Moor Street, a lot of the 126's route around the city centre can get clogged with traffic, plus you have anywhere along the Hagley Road slowing to walking pace at peak times, and the Birmingham New Road
Hagley Road is abysmal at the best of times!! Disgusting piece of road.
Tell me about it, dangerous as well with four lanes of traffic running so close together. I would even back a speed limit reduction to 20mph between the city and Bearwood for safety reasons, which I believe has been planned
20mph? Are you out of your mind? 20mph can cause just as much safety issues that 40mph does. Even the BBC shows (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19226144) that some 2,262 people were road casualties in the zones over the 2011 year - 1,966 of them minor injuries - according to the Department for Transport figures.
That will also cause more running time needed on bus routes that serve the Hagley Road, Thus increasing PVR.
I have looked at some stats (https://db.tt/8YTJ8vuT) from the DfT which I have collated and have noticed that you are more likely to die on a 30mph road than a 40mph road. (Original Stats (https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/208637/ras10001.xls))
I remember reading somewhere that plans have been laid to reduce something like 90% of 30mph roads in inner Birmingham to a 20mph limit, with some roads such as the Hagley Road I can see the ideas. However as you say, this would affect the running time of the Hagley Road routes. The 140 wouldn't be affected too much as it would just eat into the layover at Halesowen, but it would mean an extra bus or two on the 9, and would screw the 141 up
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Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 15, 2013, 08:25:28 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on November 15, 2013, 08:08:49 PM
I don't think the 126 ever runs on time ::)
Again Partly affected by Moor Street being usually grid locked
It isn't just Moor Street, a lot of the 126's route around the city centre can get clogged with traffic, plus you have anywhere along the Hagley Road slowing to walking pace at peak times, and the Birmingham New Road
Hagley Road is abysmal at the best of times!! Disgusting piece of road.
Tell me about it, dangerous as well with four lanes of traffic running so close together. I would even back a speed limit reduction to 20mph between the city and Bearwood for safety reasons, which I believe has been planned
20mph? Are you out of your mind? 20mph can cause just as much safety issues that 40mph does. Even the BBC shows (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19226144) that some 2,262 people were road casualties in the zones over the 2011 year - 1,966 of them minor injuries - according to the Department for Transport figures.
That will also cause more running time needed on bus routes that serve the Hagley Road, Thus increasing PVR.
I have looked at some stats (https://db.tt/8YTJ8vuT) from the DfT which I have collated and have noticed that you are more likely to die on a 30mph road than a 40mph road. (Original Stats (https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/208637/ras10001.xls))
I remember reading somewhere that plans have been laid to reduce something like 90% of 30mph roads in inner Birmingham to a 20mph limit, with some roads such as the Hagley Road I can see the ideas. However as you say, this would affect the running time of the Hagley Road routes. The 140 wouldn't be affected too much as it would just eat into the layover at Halesowen, but it would mean an extra bus or two on the 9, and would screw the 141 up
Yes Matt you're correct it was on BBC news about a week ago. And they're talking of the majority of main corridor roads being 20mph.
The Pershore Road is 20mph anyway without enforcement! Won't work on the BR though. Or the HR I wouldn't of thought.
its annoying if a bus is late don't get me wrong, but at the end of the day can people really blame a driver for being late, traffic slow passengers and a time table they cant run to at times,
In my opinion all stops should have real time information on them that way we all know when they will be at the stop regardless if early or late
Quote from: the trainbasher on November 15, 2013, 09:20:05 PM
I have looked at some stats (https://db.tt/8YTJ8vuT) from the DfT which I have collated and have noticed that you are more likely to die on a 30mph road than a 40mph road. (Original Stats (https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/208637/ras10001.xls))
The chances of a pedestrian dying are also significantly increased if they choose not to wait at a designated pedestrian crossing point, and either walk out or run into oncoming traffic.
Something is wrong with the 244 tonight (even more than usual)... it doesn't seem to be turning up and the app says there are 4 running towards Hayley Green within 20 mind
Two 24's just left town, followed by two 120's.
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 21, 2013, 07:56:21 PM
Two 24's just left town, followed by two 120's.
Traffic out of town has been awful recently, last night while waiting for my 37, there were two 5s following each other, and the other evening I waited nearly twenty minutes for the 37, in which time two 2s, a 3 and 3E passed me by.
yesterday waiting for the 126 in Bearwood around 6:20pm
one turned up literally packed and no sign of any others until it turns on to Wolverhampton Road and out appears 2 other 126's running directly behind the first one I was on
3 Mercs almost in convoy on the 244 this evening followed by a fourth (B7RLE) no more than 5 minutes behind
On Wednesday i went to Wolverhampton about 15:15 and the other 59's going the other way were running fine but something was seriously delaying them coming the other as i waited from half 3 till 4PM for a 59 when 5-6 turned up together! (2 Spectras,3 B5's and an appearence of a B6 !). I really do wonder what happened.
There were delays on the 59 yesterday but it was understandable due to Wednesfield High St being closed.
Both 141's are running 15-20 minutes late this evening, also the 9's have been running in pairs this evening with gaps of 30-40 minutes.
Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 22, 2013, 10:22:07 PM
Both 141's are running 15-20 minutes late this evening, also the 9's have been running in pairs this evening with gaps of 30-40 minutes.
Where would they turn those 141's with that delay, Matt?
Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 22, 2013, 10:33:10 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 22, 2013, 10:22:07 PM
Both 141's are running 15-20 minutes late this evening, also the 9's have been running in pairs this evening with gaps of 30-40 minutes.
Where would they turn those 141's with that delay, Matt?
It would probably be Five Ways, I don't think turn them at the other end due to services between Old Hill - Cradley Heath - Merry Hill being much less frequent than services between Five Ways and the city centre
934 + 936 left Pheasy together heading for town
There was a 25 minute gap between any 82, 83, 87, 89, 120, 127-9 around 7:10 and 7:40 today at Colmore Row. The 19:05 - 128 to Oldbury arrived at 19:20, the 19:22 - 89E to Oldbury and the 19:37 - 83 to West Bromwich arrived at 19:40, there was no sign of the 19:15 or 19:35 - 120 or the 19:20 - 127
The 900 seems out of place tonight? The 21:27 didn't show up at all. The 20:57 didn't leave Birmingham till 21:20 when my 935A got into town.
Didn't pay too much attention to the 957, but it was only 15 minutes till the last one left.
The 9 towards Stourbridge and the 276 towards Dudley had to be put on diversion today after someone decided to do roadworks in Lye High St & put temporary traffic lights half way up the High St. Caused chaos from what i have been told.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 28, 2013, 10:02:47 PM
The 9 towards Stourbridge and the 276 towards Dudley had to be put on diversion today after someone decided to do roadworks in Lye High St & put temporary traffic lights half way up the High St. Caused chaos from what i have been told.
I've just remembered, the 243 was on diversion yesterday, doing a one-way loop around Timbertree estate in both directions, due to the junction out of Timbertree being closed.
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 28, 2013, 09:57:20 PM
The 900 seems out of place tonight? The 21:27 didn't show up at all. The 20:57 didn't leave Birmingham till 21:20 when my 935A got into town.
Didn't pay too much attention to the 957, but it was only 15 minutes till the last one left.
All services in the Sheldon area were in absolute chaos yesterday all caused by some temporary traffic lights on Church Road (70, 71, 72, 73) which blocked Hobs Moat Road all the way back to Solihull and the Coventry Road in both directions, added to some big shows at the NEC, some buses were running up to two hours late!
Quote from: Tony on November 29, 2013, 10:27:37 AM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 28, 2013, 09:57:20 PM
The 900 seems out of place tonight? The 21:27 didn't show up at all. The 20:57 didn't leave Birmingham till 21:20 when my 935A got into town.
Didn't pay too much attention to the 957, but it was only 15 minutes till the last one left.
All services in the Sheldon area were in absolute chaos yesterday all caused by some temporary traffic lights on Church Road (70, 71, 72, 73) which blocked Hobs Moat Road all the way back to Solihull and the Coventry Road in both directions, added to some big shows at the NEC, some buses were running up to two hours late!
Its the same again today
That would explain seeing a 71E to Chelmsley wood in Castle Brom earlier going towards Solihull. TO make matters worse for the 70/71/72 the Chester road round the Clock garage is screwed again, because of the Chester Road works.
Obviously I don't know official facts and figures, but the 90 was always a very good and very punctual service.
Since extended and re numbered 70, I've noticed more late runnings and on a few occasions two 70s running only minutes apart into City.
Quote from: Gareth on November 29, 2013, 02:28:01 PM
Obviously I don't know official facts and figures, but the 90 was always a very good and very punctual service.
Since extended and re numbered 70, I've noticed more late runnings and on a few occasions two 70s running only minutes apart into City.
I got on 4442 on the 70 today going into Solihull and I thought it already gone and that was running 15 minutes late and before that I noticed 2 60's running together from Cranes Park to Birmingham
well ALL 82(WN) are delayed for some reason anyone have any idea why
the 89 I got on today got to Ladywood by Tesco and hit a dog by the traffic lights
it held the bus up and eventually another packed 89 cane followed by 2 82's and 2 87's all in a line
Full PVR 100% of Pershore Road were running a minimum of 10minutes late and all PVR were running in a group. Unbelievable to see about 9 inbound, 7outbound and then 10 minutes later like another 5 inbound with the addition of a breakdown at Belgrave!!! A. V. Hell... you have some explaining to do.
53 Bunched tonight >:( >:(
Another traffic jam on Colmore Row, which resulted in the 1910 128 (4518) turning up at 1917, the 1920 127 (4226) turning up at 1923 and the 1850, 1915, 1935 120 turning up between 1925-1935
Quote from: Sh4166 on November 29, 2013, 08:51:22 PM
Another traffic jam on Colmore Row, which resulted in the 1910 128 (4518) turning up at 1917, the 1920 127 (4226) turning up at 1923 and the 1850, 1915, 1935 120 turning up between 1925-1935
What are AVL up to :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 29, 2013, 09:15:48 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on November 29, 2013, 08:51:22 PM
Another traffic jam on Colmore Row, which resulted in the 1910 128 (4518) turning up at 1917, the 1920 127 (4226) turning up at 1923 and the 1850, 1915, 1935 120 turning up between 1925-1935
What are AVL up to :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
Probably booking drivers for two minutes then having an attitude problem when requesting adjustment after being 45minutes late. Biggest waste of a cool mil ever.
Quote from: Gareth on November 29, 2013, 02:28:01 PM
Obviously I don't know official facts and figures, but the 90 was always a very good and very punctual service.
Since extended and re numbered 70, I've noticed more late runnings and on a few occasions two 70s running only minutes apart into City.
It's not rocket science that these routes that do a huge arc around East Birmingham and down to Solihull suffer reliability problems, they're just far too long. I can't understand why NX don't see that. If they provide useful links then split them in two but in a city that suffers the traffic problems that Birmingham does, routes that long will never run to time. The same applies to routes like the 49, and the former 69 Weoley Castle to Heartlands Hospital service.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 29, 2013, 09:18:52 PM
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Quote from: Sh4166 on November 29, 2013, 08:51:22 PM
Another traffic jam on Colmore Row, which resulted in the 1910 128 (4518) turning up at 1917, the 1920 127 (4226) turning up at 1923 and the 1850, 1915, 1935 120 turning up between 1925-1935
What are AVL up to :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
Probably booking drivers for two minutes then having an attitude problem when requesting adjustment after being 45minutes late. Biggest waste of a cool mil ever.
It's absolutely fabulous....if you enjoy wasting money!!
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 29, 2013, 09:15:48 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on November 29, 2013, 08:51:22 PM
Another traffic jam on Colmore Row, which resulted in the 1910 128 (4518) turning up at 1917, the 1920 127 (4226) turning up at 1923 and the 1850, 1915, 1935 120 turning up between 1925-1935
What are AVL up to :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
I was in the AVL room all day yesterday (an am most of next week). Perhaps you could tell me what AVL could have done here. Most of Birmingham City Centre ground to a halt yesterday afternoon, you yourself say Colmore Row was blocked.
The first two buses you mention are 7 and 3 minutes late, hardly likely to be adjusted.
The three 120 would be a mix of those starting at Dudley and Oldbury. You wouldn't adjust the Dudley one unless there was another one with it because it would have been needed to carry passengers out of Dudley Bus Station. Most of the time lost was probably between Five Ways and Colmore Row giving little scope for adjustment. There is not someone in AVL just watching one route at all time. The person watching the 120s would also be doing the 9, 51, X51, 74, 4(WA), 311/313, 529 amongst others. If the drivers haven't pressed their late button he wouldn't even notice a little bunching like that with what was happening on all routes yesterday.
Anyone can look at a screen, see which buses are late, and send radio messages to them to either run short, or private to put themselves back on time. Regulating is far more complicated than that, you have to consider where you are cutting services. If the controller would have seen those three buses and turned two of them at Five Ways to put them back on time, what would have happened if there was more than one bus load waiting for a 120 between Colmore Row and Five Ways?
I have to say, yeah it is frustrating when buses are late etc... but when the whole city centre has gone tits up there is only a limited amount that can be done. Perhaps Tony could answer this, how many people actually work in AVL? As you say yourself you were there do they draft people like yourself in when it does become chaotic to try to help or do they usually have, for sake of arguement, 5 people in there doing naff all just in case?
Quote from: Kevin on December 01, 2013, 10:16:40 AM
I have to say, yeah it is frustrating when buses are late etc... but when the whole city centre has gone tits up there is only a limited amount that can be done. Perhaps Tony could answer this, how many people actually work in AVL? As you say yourself you were there do they draft people like yourself in when it does become chaotic to try to help or do they usually have, for sake of arguement, 5 people in there doing naff all just in case?
What about when a driver is coming up to finish and is an hour late cause AVL blatantly ignoring him? They have lives you know and I'm sure forcing your man to work an hour overtime isn't covered in "Best Practice" clause of their contract. And yet! I bet they'll adjust the late night drivers and leave ones which are soon to finish in the garage out on the road, regardless of how late and how many buses are in front!! Many a time when I was at BC over the Christmas you'd not be surprised to be 1.5 hours down, dependant of route - wait 20 odd minutes and miss a whole trip. From the drivers point of view, AVL are very anti-Driver. And it seems they enjoy giving them all the middle finger.
I've never had the chance to visit AVL, and I wouldn't want to, cause the amount of family time/functions I've missed because of their ignorance of the delay, I'd want their blood. I'm getting on a bit now so these do's mean a lot to me. Yes, I'm not bothered finishing max 20minute late, but 35, 50minutes, that's my time its eating into. Indeed you get paid for it but a poxy couple of quid Vs. Priceless time with grandkids? I know what I'd chose.
Obviously now I'm retired I don't have to worry about any of that. Oh the joys of being old :)
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 01, 2013, 11:15:43 AM
From the drivers point of view, AVL are very anti-Driver. And it seems they enjoy giving them all the middle finger.
I've never had the chance to visit AVL, and I wouldn't want to
And I'm sure Tony would say the opposite "from AVL point of view..." I imagine it's a thankless job and without going to see the workings neither me nor you can say for definite that they are "blatantly ignoring" drivers...
...nothing personal of course
Quote from: Kevin on December 01, 2013, 12:17:07 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 01, 2013, 11:15:43 AM
From the drivers point of view, AVL are very anti-Driver. And it seems they enjoy giving them all the middle finger.
I've never had the chance to visit AVL, and I wouldn't want to
And I'm sure Tony would say the opposite "from AVL point of view..." I imagine it's a thankless job and without going to see the workings neither me nor you can say for definite that they are "blatantly ignoring" drivers...
...nothing personal of course
Well if your late for all of a 5 hour portion, after making inspectors aware of the delay, and pressing the late button, and they don't even get back to ask if you can complete mileage, I'd say they're blatantly ignoring them. Oh, but 2minutes early - or the wrong journey number inputted - they're on your back quicker then you can say Adjustment!! And the times I've had the unfortunate pleasure to speak to them on the radio, their voice speaks down to you, as if you were a schoolchild, rather then a colleague. They're just pushing it further and further into the 'Us Vs. Them' working conditions.
I agree LS, I was working on Pershore Rd Friday, was 45 mins late and due a relief, I pressed late button..... I actually pressed it again as I thought it wasnt working. I know a lot of buses were running late, but it takes a couple of minutes to adjust a bus.
And as you said they will be quick to call you up if you're a few mins early, despite the fact that sometimes the running board gives far too much time than actually needed, or the bus in front is late etc.
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on December 01, 2013, 02:05:40 PM
I agree LS, I was working on Pershore Rd Friday, was 45 mins late and due a relief, I pressed late button..... I actually pressed it again as I thought it wasnt working. I know a lot of buses were running late, but it takes a couple of minutes to adjust a bus.
And as you said they will be quick to call you up if you're a few mins early, despite the fact that sometimes the running board gives far too much time than actually needed, or the bus in front is late etc.
Exactly, BC Driver. What makes me laugh is some of the workers in AVL used to be drivers themselves so they know the crack, yet when they're up there, they become white shirts!!
2 28's running together towards from Hunter's Moon towards Small Heath on a Sunday. Oh dear.
Hagley Road services were all over the place today, with the temporary traffic lights at Norfolk Crossing.
The 120 I eventually caught was 20 minutes late arriving at Sheepcote St from city, and by the time I got to Warley Road it was over half an hour late.
Amusingly I was demonstrating the NWM app to my sister after dinner, as one 120 passed their house, the app showed the next one was due in 8 minutes, then the next one wasn't for 54 minutes! As I commented, "not bad for a half-hourly service". ;D
On a side note, as the bus was heading up Thimblemill Road towards the Queens Head, the radio was making some 'funny' beeping noises I haven't heard before, is this the driver signalling he's late?
Quote from: Stu on December 01, 2013, 08:02:38 PM
Hagley Road services were all over the place today, with the temporary traffic lights at Norfolk Crossing.
The 120 I eventually caught was 20 minutes late arriving at Sheepcote St from city, and by the time I got to Warley Road it was over half an hour late.
Amusingly I was demonstrating the NWM app to my sister after dinner, as one 120 passed their house, the app showed the next one was due in 8 minutes, then the next one wasn't for 54 minutes! As I commented, "not bad for a half-hourly service". ;D
On a side note, as the bus was heading up Thimblemill Road towards the Queens Head, the radio was making some 'funny' beeping noises I haven't heard before, is this the driver signalling he's late?
Well, if he was pressing the button.
Beep 1, beep 2, then beep 3 for Late Running.
Then a quick concession of 3 beeps followed by Queued on the display
Then probably 2quick beeps for it being answered or a flat line tone for No Serv
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 01, 2013, 08:05:11 PM
Quote from: Stu on December 01, 2013, 08:02:38 PM
Hagley Road services were all over the place today, with the temporary traffic lights at Norfolk Crossing.
The 120 I eventually caught was 20 minutes late arriving at Sheepcote St from city, and by the time I got to Warley Road it was over half an hour late.
Amusingly I was demonstrating the NWM app to my sister after dinner, as one 120 passed their house, the app showed the next one was due in 8 minutes, then the next one wasn't for 54 minutes! As I commented, "not bad for a half-hourly service". ;D
On a side note, as the bus was heading up Thimblemill Road towards the Queens Head, the radio was making some 'funny' beeping noises I haven't heard before, is this the driver signalling he's late?
Well, if he was pressing the button.
Beep 1, beep 2, then beep 3 for Late Running.
Then a quick concession of 3 beeps followed by Queued on the display
Then probably 2quick beeps for it being answered or a flat line tone for No Serv
Which I presume is most of the time having no response. Good job I never followed in my dad's footsteps by applying to NX!
Quote from: monkeyjoe on December 01, 2013, 04:53:01 PM
2 28's running together towards from Hunter's Moon towards Small Heath on a Sunday. Oh dear.
Happens far to often on a sunday, also spotted two 907's within 3 minutes on the sunday frequency
The NWM app has just given me the following information for the 9 for my bus stop...
9 Stourbridge 21 mins
9 Stourbridge 23 mins
9 Stourbridge 23 mins
9 Stourbridge 27 mins
9 Stourbridge 34 mins
9 Stourbridge 54 mins
Something has gone very wrong with the 9 tonight
-------------------------
EDIT: It now says:
9 Stourbridge 8 mins
9 Stourbridge 8 mins
9 Stourbridge 8 mins
9 Stourbridge 8 mins
I have never seen that before!
I think the realtime information system is somewhat screwed at present.
While waiting for an 11A earlier, the display at the stop was counting down both the 31 and 11A, with the 11A consistently being 1 minute after the 31. The display was showing the 31 as due in '1 min' as it approached the stop, when it changed to 'Due'. As the 31 pulled away, the 11A changed to due, and eventually appeared about five minutes later, while still showing 'Due'!
Later after that, I was walking from Stechford Retail Park to catch the 11C back home, an 11 was just passing me as I checked on the NXWM app, it showed Due with the next one in 3 minutes. So I didn't panic and lit up a ciggy as it was only a 1 minute walk to the stop. As I got to the stop, another 11 went past, then when I checked the app again, another one wasn't due for 16 minutes! I finished my ciggy, and then about ten minutes later, the 11C turned up!
(I do suspect however that this 11C might have started from Ward End, as there was only one person on board when it arrived!)
Travelling in Pensnett at 16:30 and there were 3 222s virtually following each other to Merry Hill!
Quote from: Stu on December 19, 2013, 07:46:35 PM
I think the realtime information system is somewhat screwed at present.
While waiting for an 11A earlier, the display at the stop was counting down both the 31 and 11A, with the 11A consistently being 1 minute after the 31. The display was showing the 31 as due in '1 min' as it approached the stop, when it changed to 'Due'. As the 31 pulled away, the 11A changed to due, and eventually appeared about five minutes later, while still showing 'Due'!
Later after that, I was walking from Stechford Retail Park to catch the 11C back home, an 11 was just passing me as I checked on the NXWM app, it showed Due with the next one in 3 minutes. So I didn't panic and lit up a ciggy as it was only a 1 minute walk to the stop. As I got to the stop, another 11 went past, then when I checked the app again, another one wasn't due for 16 minutes! I finished my ciggy, and then about ten minutes later, the 11C turned up!
(I do suspect however that this 11C might have started from Ward End, as there was only one person on board when it arrived!)
I notice it is a bit messed up also and the timetabled times are shown on the app 1 minute behind the actual one on timetable
The app was not lying, I went out and caught one of the 4 Enviros in convoy. A lovely quiet trip to Stourbridge.
Over 30minute service gap on Pershore Road.
Bristol Road losing about 5 - 15 mins due to Northfield outbound is solid with the lights out of synchronization.
At one of my local stops, I've got an 87 in a minute, another one in 8 minutes and another one in 5 minutes. Not bad for an every 10 minute service ;D
4 9s towards Birmingham running in convoy, then a 25 min gap in service, then another convoy is developing...
One driver complaining in Wolverhampton today that his bus was running late even after adjustment. I didn't hear a board or even a route number so I can't comment further.
15 minute gaps and even a 30 minute gaps between several buses on WN 59 this afternoon. Total Chaos. A 401* (4011 or 4013) Spectra left on a 59E to Wednesfield as he was running at least 25-30 minutes late.
Also late running on WN 6 with several buses being turned short as 6E's to Pendeford Whitburn Close.
126's are pretty bad again (But when aren't they running extremely late!)with several 126's to Fulive Ways from Wolverhampton.
Is it me or is late running particularly bad this year?
Don't remember us discussing it so much last year.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 20, 2013, 03:41:15 PM
Is it me or is late running particularly bad this year?
Don't remember us discussing it so much last year.
Yes I was discussing this with a driver on the 59. Its not just traffic either, There just seems to be lots more passengers using the bus this year than previous Christmases
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 20, 2013, 03:43:56 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 20, 2013, 03:41:15 PM
Is it me or is late running particularly bad this year?
Don't remember us discussing it so much last year.
Yes I was discussing this with a driver on the 59. Its not just traffic either, There just seems to be lots more passengers using the bus this year than previous Christmases
Its been building and building for years, and now people are only just starting to notice it.
The big obvious one is the sheer volume of immigrants going straight for the cities which obviously overlaps with the people already here .. causing the supply and demand culture.
Call me what you want its simply a fact. All these people weren't here a generation ago. And the birthrate isn't 100+%. Go figure.
Also I just remembered saw two 26's (508 and 555) leaving Wolverhampton this afternoon. The 26 has a 30 minute frequency too
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 20, 2013, 04:07:56 PM
Also I just remembered saw two 26's (508 and 555) leaving Wolverhampton this afternoon. The 26 has a 30 minute frequency too
You reminded me; two x64's running together about 1230hrs this afternoon - as well as two 98's.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 20, 2013, 04:09:49 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 20, 2013, 04:07:56 PM
Also I just remembered saw two 26's (508 and 555) leaving Wolverhampton this afternoon. The 26 has a 30 minute frequency too
You reminded me; two x64's running together about 1230hrs this afternoon - as well as two 98's.
And the 26 isn't exactly a busy route when it comes to passengers and the traffic is usually ok but Penn Rd/Dudley Rd and the Birmingham New Rd Junctions with the route have been very busy into Wolverhampton today. Plus I was told 555 had broken down earlier on today so was obviously put back into service.
I'm guessing Brum has been really bad in terms of traffic (Even worse than it usually is) with Christmas Shoppers?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 20, 2013, 04:15:16 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 20, 2013, 04:09:49 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 20, 2013, 04:07:56 PM
Also I just remembered saw two 26's (508 and 555) leaving Wolverhampton this afternoon. The 26 has a 30 minute frequency too
You reminded me; two x64's running together about 1230hrs this afternoon - as well as two 98's.
And the 26 isn't exactly a busy route when it comes to passengers and the traffic is usually ok but Penn Rd/Dudley Rd and the Birmingham New Rd Junctions with the route have been very busy into Wolverhampton today. Plus I was told 555 had broken down earlier on today so was obviously put back into service.
I'm guessing Brum has been really bad in terms of traffic (Even worse than it usually is) with Christmas Shoppers?
Like you wouldn't believe. As I said before the Pershore had like a 30min gap on a daytime 6minute service. Sherlock Street was solid and Bristol Street. Stirchley and Northfield - - - basically all the high streets and inbound/outbound roads from the city.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 20, 2013, 03:41:15 PM
Is it me or is late running particularly bad this year?
Don't remember us discussing it so much last year.
I certainly don't remember it being this bad last year!
I saw 4 9's to Birmingham in convoy earlier this afternoon, then a 25 minute gap, then another 4 of them nearly in convoy...
There was a convoy of 4 arriving in Stourbridge last night around 8pm too.
The late running is still continuing this evening on the 59.There was at least a 20 minute gap whilst waiting on Rookery St (Just past Wednesfield) then 4020 pulled up as a 59E-Wednesfield then shortly afterwards an out of service Spectra went past
There was apparently a convoy of 4 120's earlier. I also saw a pair of 53's together. The 8pm 141 from MH is running at least half an hour late, and there are a couple of 9's still running together at this time.
today in town a 127 pulled up on Colmore Row directly followed by a 129 even though they should be 10 mins apart
Quote from: OH25 on December 20, 2013, 09:48:26 PM
today in town a 127 pulled up on Colmore Row directly followed by a 129 even they should be 10 mins apart
Looking at some of the posts it looksvas if quite a lot of services have been running late or very late
3 87's bunched up.
Screw it, I'm gonna go out and admire the chaos today, see quite how bad the last saturday before christmas can get
Quote from: Kevin on December 21, 2013, 09:30:33 AM
Screw it, I'm gonna go out and admire the chaos today, see quite how bad the last saturday before christmas can get
Don't miss the Bristol Rd or Pershore...
The 49's are bunching together, the BR 5-7 together, Pershore Road is OK at the moment, usual delays on the East - 97's, Coventry Rd etc
Seasonally volume of Police in the vicinity and someone jumping off the Grovesnor Building in Northfield...
Interesting... X51 is on time and relatively empty... In fact the A34 corridor in general is quieter than a normal Saturday. Wellington road roundabout in Perry Barr seems a doddle ... Confusing
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 21, 2013, 01:47:43 PM
The 49's are bunching together
4090 was my 49 from Maypole to Solihull, and a Trident came in right behind it. We were following it all the way to Solihull
There was also a 900 and 900E following each other out of Birmingham on Small Heath Highway this afternoon as well
Quote from: John on December 21, 2013, 04:20:21 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 21, 2013, 01:47:43 PM
The 49's are bunching together
4090 was my 49 from Maypole to Solihull, and a Trident came in right behind it. We were following it all the way to Solihull
There was also a 900 and 900E following each other out of Birmingham on Small Heath Highway this afternoon as well
Well AVL have their work cut out
Providing you don't convert to White-Shirtism when you're bored of driving!
EDIT: just seen two 49's together again just left West Heath. Trident and a B7. Unidentifiable how fast they blew past me.
Why is there a whole AVL v Drivers thing. Surely the two can work together...
...or am I being cynical?
Quote from: the trainbasher on December 21, 2013, 04:33:14 PM
Why is there a whole AVL v Drivers thing. Surely the two can work together...
...or am I being cynical?
Let's be honest it's inevitable aint it? The drivers are late and AVL realistically can only do a limited number of things to get things back on track, because they also have to think of the passengers themselves as well
I imagine it to be a similar relationship with train drivers and signallers, where the one holds up the other for "the greater good" ie if a faster train could do with getting past but the driver is bound to get annoyed with them for it
The 80s aren't great today, but I guess all services will be affected today
Quote from: Sh4318 on December 22, 2013, 06:26:38 PM
The 80s aren't great today, but I guess all services will be affected today
My 9 (the 17:20 from city) was 10 minutes late and RAMMED with at least 20 standees, with almost every seat upstairs taken. The 9 simply cannot cope with a 20 minute Sunday frequency (and 20 minute Saturday frequency from 6pm onwards), as this sort of thing happens most weekends!
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 22, 2013, 06:29:17 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on December 22, 2013, 06:26:38 PM
The 80s aren't great today, but I guess all services will be affected today
My 9 (the 17:20 from city) was 10 minutes late and RAMMED with at least 20 standees, with almost every seat upstairs taken. The 9 simply cannot cope with a 20 minute Sunday frequency (and 20 minute Saturday frequency from 6pm onwards), as this sort of thing happens most weekends!
My 80 from Birmingham (4233) was rather quiet today(17:35), got off my stop (Blue Gates) 10 mins late. 4273 (also on the 80) was over 20 mins late for the 18:05 from Birmingham. 4269 (the other bus on the 80) seemed fine coming from West Bromwich, that's probably all about to change ;D
I would imagine AVL would have had to do a lot of adjustments on Harborne services this morning due to a Renault Scenic being sandwiched in the middle of the High St between a Hansons Dart and a delivery truck. Looked like the car was trying to overtake a couple of buses stopped at the main High St stop towards city and it crossed the central road markings to squeeze through a gap far too small. Both sides of the car were badly damaged and a front wheel torn off. No injuries though.
Hansons Dart was the one that already has a big gouge down the side so maybe they might finally repair that. Traffic chaos both ways, especially from city.
Quote from: Mike K on December 23, 2013, 01:05:09 PM
Hansons Dart was the one that already has a big gouge down the side so maybe they might finally repair that. Traffic chaos both ways, especially from city.
Yeah I know that Dart, 'BV55 UPO', have always noticed that one with the big scrape on the offside. One of the 004 regulars
There were 2 28s following each other up Hassop Road this afternoon towards Kingstanding
Saw three 222's leaving Merry Hill almost in convoy this afternoon.
The X96 went in a pair from Stourbridge about half 4ish to merry Hell
Going from Wollaston to Stourbridge this morning, there were 2 x96s running together.
3 E400H's going down Pipers Row on 1's bound for Tettenhall Wood
Also saw 5418 on a 1E to Sedgley on Pipers Row turning into Queen St at about 15:25
4900 & 4906 currently running together on the. 900 with the 09:40 & 10:10 journeys from Coventry
Update - 4900 now running not in service from Meridan to Birmingham with myself and all other passengers transferring to 4906
there are currently three 80's on their way to a West Bromwich with a space of 5 minutes between the first one (4641) and the second (4275) and third one (4640)
Serious traffic jam (due to temporary lights in Witton yesterday about 09.00 meant seeing 7 Gems and one ALX400 all on the 7 in the same traffic jam (though due to how slow everything was moving there probably would have been some gaps between them when they got going).
Quote from: Lukeee on January 15, 2014, 09:22:37 PM
Serious traffic jam (due to temporary lights in Witton yesterday about 09.00 meant seeing 7 Gems and one ALX400 all on the 7 in the same traffic jam (though due to how slow everything was moving there probably would have been some gaps between them when they got going).
I was stuck in that yesterday all down The Ridgeway. I was driving 9505, and there was 3 Geminis in front waiting to turn right down to Witton.
Then in Erdington, there was a collision between 2 lorries just off the island on the New Road, and nothing moved for around 10 minutes. A 966 was stuck on the island, and 4914 was also stuck
Saw 4005 about 19:20 going into Wolverhampton on a very late running 28
Either Thursday or Yesterday 4574 and 633 were running together through Heath Town on WN 82 towards Dudley
Two 82's within 5 minutes (B6 and Merc) of each other going through Heath Town towards Wolverhampton about 40 minutes ago
936 - 26 minutes late this morning
Yet again two WN82's running through Heath Town together (4009 and 4569)this afternoon
Really bad traffic on the Coventry Road (into city) this afternoon due to roadworks, caused 2 900s to run together both into and out of city, and the 957 I was on took 20 minutes to get from Sheldon to The Swan
Quote from: John on January 25, 2014, 03:48:37 PM
Really bad traffic on the Coventry Road (into city) this afternoon due to roadworks, caused 2 900s to run together both into and out of city, and the 957 I was on took 20 minutes to get from Sheldon to The Swan
Was one of the 900's a Trident because I seen two 900's together heading towards Birmingham from my front door at about half 2 while I was seeing my Auntie off and one of them was a Trident :)
Quote from: Rob H on January 25, 2014, 03:57:43 PM
Quote from: John on January 25, 2014, 03:48:37 PM
Really bad traffic on the Coventry Road (into city) this afternoon due to roadworks, caused 2 900s to run together both into and out of city, and the 957 I was on took 20 minutes to get from Sheldon to The Swan
Was one of the 900's a Trident because I seen two 900's together heading towards Birmingham from my front door at about half 2 while I was seeing my Auntie off and one of them was a Trident :)
The 2 into city that my 957 was following were 4900 and 4896. One of the two heading out of city was another branded Enviro400, I did not see the other, my mate said there was another one not far behind it (I wasn't paying attention!)
I was on board a 900 from Coventry at 14:20ish which used the outside lane to overtake a 900E and 957 while crawling along by "Solihull Heights". Thats the exclusive ::) flats built in the central reservation where the pub used to be between Sheldon and Yardley.
A 900 to Coventry and 900E passed by together in opposite direction.
I'd like to meet the idiot who gave permission to close a lane so that trees and vegetation could be pruned on a busy Saturday afternoon :o
Quote from: JoNi on January 25, 2014, 09:11:09 PM
I was on board a 900 from Coventry at 14:20ish which used the outside lane to overtake a 900E and 957 while crawling along by "Solihull Heights". Thats the exclusive ::) flats built in the central reservation where the pub used to be between Sheldon and Yardley.
A 900 to Coventry and 900E passed by together in opposite direction.
I'd like to meet the idiot who gave permission to close a lane so that trees and vegetation could be pruned on a busy Saturday afternoon :o
That would have been the 957 me and my mate were on. With the vast amount of traffic, I was expecting there to be an accident, as it took us 20 minutes to get from Sheldon to Yardley Swan. But as you said Joni, one lane closed on both sides of Coventry Road, just to cut the vegetation on one of the busiest times of the week is absolutely ridiculous. What's wrong with Sunday or at night?
Quote from: John on January 25, 2014, 09:16:50 PM
Quote from: JoNi on January 25, 2014, 09:11:09 PM
I was on board a 900 from Coventry at 14:20ish which used the outside lane to overtake a 900E and 957 while crawling along by "Solihull Heights". Thats the exclusive ::) flats built in the central reservation where the pub used to be between Sheldon and Yardley.
A 900 to Coventry and 900E passed by together in opposite direction.
I'd like to meet the idiot who gave permission to close a lane so that trees and vegetation could be pruned on a busy Saturday afternoon :o
That would have been the 957 me and my mate were on. With the vast amount of traffic, I was expecting there to be an accident, as it took us 20 minutes to get from Sheldon to Yardley Swan. But as you said Joni, one lane closed on both sides of Coventry Road, just to cut the vegetation on one of the busiest times of the week is absolutely ridiculous. What's wrong with Sunday or at night?
They seem to be doing it on a Saturday and Sunday, which is better than all week! I got trough quite quickly, although that was at around midday - my 957 was a no more than 5 minutes late. The 900 I got back cam into City a few minutes late and the traffic seemed to flow better out of City and was still only a few minutes late getting to Sheldon, while the other direction was backed up to the Wheatsheaf.
A strange sight was a Meagabus turning out of Gilberstone Ave, obviously used the back roads to avaoid traffic - Maybe Wagon Lane, Marcot Rd, Gilbertstone?
Quote from: JoNi on January 25, 2014, 09:11:09 PM
I'd like to meet the idiot who gave permission to close a lane so that trees and vegetation could be pruned on a busy Saturday afternoon :o
You Call them idiots, I call them enterprising...just think what if the buses had been delayed on a weekday so the could do it? Not so sensible then eh?
Roadworks on the Kenilworth Road in Cov have been wreaking havoc with the 18A recently along with Stagecoach's 16
De Courcey have put up a notice at University Hospital warning of disruption on the 360A/C.
Two 141's (4819 and 4826) parked up together at Merry Hill about 14:15 this afternoon!
Quote from: Nathan on January 26, 2014, 05:17:47 PM
Two 141's (4819 and 4826) parked up together at Merry Hill about 14:15 this afternoon!
On Sundays, the 141 is timetabled to arrive at Merry Hill just after the one in front has left, at 15 and 45 minutes past the hour. It's nothing unusual to see the two parked up together, it only takes one to leave slightly late or one to arrive slightly early.
Quote from: Matt on January 26, 2014, 05:53:47 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 26, 2014, 05:17:47 PM
Two 141's (4819 and 4826) parked up together at Merry Hill about 14:15 this afternoon!
On Sundays, the 141 is timetabled to arrive at Merry Hill just after the one in front has left, at 15 and 45 minutes past the hour. It's nothing unusual to see the two parked up together, it only takes one to leave slightly late or one to arrive slightly early.
Oh OK :) I wasn't aware of that :) Thanks
Quote from: JoNi on January 26, 2014, 02:48:28 PM
De Courcey have put up a notice at University Hospital warning of disruption on the 360A/C.
Ah bit is that due to traffic etc, or is it the new timetable they've effectively been forced to use
3 28s (including mine) in convoy between Fox & Goose and Hawthorn Road, due to bad traffic on Belchers Lane. 2 'E's and my one to Scott Arms. AVL took one of the 'E's off at the Crossways
Trouble with the 110/902/904/905 between 7-8.30am this morning I heard an inspector who was by the Square Peg there was a problem on the Aston Expressway couldn't get actual details but something was wrong also there was no 110 between 07:25-08:50
Last night, I observed three 9's running together towards Birmingham, heading out of Halesowen at around 20:20. They should have been spread over half an hour
Quote from: Matt on January 28, 2014, 08:02:50 PM
Last night, I observed three 9's running together towards Birmingham, heading out of Halesowen at around 20:20. They should have been spread over half an hour
I can imagine lots and lots of people waiting in the cold and rain on Colemore Row last night. I presume this was down to delays earlier on which has caused an even bigger gap
Quote from: Nathan on January 28, 2014, 08:06:42 PM
Quote from: Matt on January 28, 2014, 08:02:50 PM
Last night, I observed three 9's running together towards Birmingham, heading out of Halesowen at around 20:20. They should have been spread over half an hour
I can imagine lots and lots of people waiting in the cold and rain on Colemore Row last night. I presume this was down to delays earlier on which has caused an even bigger gap
They are usually all on time heading into the city by that time. I have no idea what may have caused such a delay.
Quote from: Rob H on January 28, 2014, 07:50:28 PM
Trouble with the 110/902/904/905 between 7-8.30am this morning I heard an inspector who was by the Square Peg there was a problem on the Aston Expressway couldn't get actual details but something was wrong also there was no 110 between 07:25-08:50
The tidal flow system was not working correctly on the Aston Expressway, and I believe there had been an accident overnight which was still being cleared up.
Apparently there are issues with the tidal flow system again this evening, which is causing more delays.
5 11C (2 11E and one "not in service" president leading the other 4) all within 5 minutes of each other from Kings Heath at 9:45-9:50 this morning.
Put it this way, I have seen worse!
What i don't understand in cases like this, why dont AVL do something to regulate the service? All they seem to care about is services going into town and then they don't seem particularly interested.
They should get the garages to manage there own buses, they make a better job of it!
I suppose really they had intervened, that's why one was NIS and 2 were running as E journeys, baring in mind there had been a good 15 minute gap so I suppose at that time of the morning one bus may not have been enough to cope with the Off Peakers coming out. I suspect there were delays somewhere as the usual 9:35 Joes Travel did not turn up either and that one is normally quite punctual.
4903 running 10-15 minutes late with the 10:05 900 to Coventry
Quote from: Rob H on January 29, 2014, 10:57:52 AM
4903 running 10-15 minutes late with the 10:05 900 to Coventry
I was stood in Upper Well Street (Cov) this evening at about 4PM and unbranded 4908 (90% certain) was very closely followed by a branded 900 (didn't catch the fleet numeber) within two minutes of each other! Not sure whats going on.
Maybe this best go elsewhere...
What is the policy of NX with late running services; Are drivers permitted to skip their break to make up time? I've always wondered this but never been able to work it out.
Quote from: ben710 on January 29, 2014, 06:36:30 PM
Quote from: Rob H on January 29, 2014, 10:57:52 AM
4903 running 10-15 minutes late with the 10:05 900 to Coventry
I was stood in Upper Well Street (Cov) this evening at about 4PM and unbranded 4908 (90% certain) was very closely followed by a branded 900 (didn't catch the fleet numeber) within two minutes of each other! Not sure whats going on.
Maybe this best go elsewhere...
What is the policy of NX with late running services; Are drivers permitted to skip their break to make up time? I've always wondered this but never been able to work it out.
Drivers don't make decisions on what to do. If the front driver arrives late and doesn't need a break because of driving hours regulations he would be expected to return to Birmingham immediately. What he may do if he has missed his return time is press the late button on his radio, point out to AVL that another bus is immediately behind him (they should be able to see that, but may not have noticed if the controller is busy sorting out another route) and ask them to make a decision that will put him back on time.
Thanks very much ^ :)
What are Avl up to when a service is late
Ben it was 4908, I saw it in Hales Street and didn't take much notice of it until I saw 4897 almost immediately behind it.
4908 drove straight round and seemed to form the 16:04 a few minutes late.
4897 left on time at 16:40 as there is more layover given in the new schedule introduced last October.
I initially checked the times in the brand new 5/7/42/900 timetable dated 26/1/14 only to find it still has old out of date clockface 900 timetable in it with no additional layover ???.
Was there a convoy with either the 9 or 59
there are convoys on the 59 most days as they run every 4-5 mins
Heat is the timetable frequency of the boards could send that to me and the untimetable e journeys then the timetabled e journeys
Quote from: JoNi on January 29, 2014, 09:23:11 PM
Ben it was 4908, I saw it in Hales Street and didn't take much notice of it until I saw 4897 almost immediately behind it.
4908 drove straight round and seemed to form the 16:04 a few minutes late.
4897 left on time at 16:40 as there is more layover given in the new schedule introduced last October.
I initially checked the times in the brand new 5/7/42/900 timetable dated 26/1/14 only to find it still has old out of date clockface 900 timetable in it with no additional layover ???.
The correct 900 times are in the 900/957 timetable dated from 27/10/2013 :)
Quote from: Christopher on January 29, 2014, 09:28:02 PM
Was there a convoy with either the 9 or 59
Yes, every day!
900? 957 ? Has someone or somebody confused ?
some routes are put on the same paper timetables, you get from the travelshops, thats what there going on about but talking about the 900
Quote from: Christopher on January 29, 2014, 09:51:31 PM
900? 957 ? Has someone or somebody confused ?
900 Birmingham - Coventry
957 Birmingham - Solihull.
Oh I see
Quote from: Christopher on January 29, 2014, 09:28:02 PM
Was there a convoy with either the 9 or 59
I live on the 59 route and can tell you it happens Mon-Fri usually and sometimes on Saturdays (They rarely run in convoy on Sundays). Most frequent routes have buses running in convey especially at Peak Times with heavy traffic,Roadworks etc.
Quote from: Christopher on January 29, 2014, 09:55:01 PM
Oh I see
example
http://busservices.wmsnt.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2014/01/TT_39_39A_25032013.pdf
Nathan yes the 59 is quite quiet on a sunday i rarely use that route
From my stop:
53 merry hill 11 mins
53 merry hill 12 mins
53 merry hill 16 mins
53 merry hill 34 mins
1419 and 1446 were running together through Wednesfield towards Walsall on the 69 just under an hour ago
Two 905's left Sutton Coldfeild together
A 900 and 900E arrived together in Birmingham again this afternoon. The 'E' was taken out of service
Quote from: John on February 01, 2014, 06:09:45 PM
A 900 and 900E arrived together in Birmingham again this afternoon. The 'E' was taken out of service
Got to be over 15 minutes late then, special straight to the Airport - back on time.
4901 was 15-20 minutes late arriving in Coventry with the 08:05 from Birmingham which formed a shortened 09:40 900 from Coventry to Airport & NEC which I presume 4901 then ran empty from Airport to Birmingham in order to work the 11:05 900 to Coventry On Time
Got a pic of 4901 while unloading/loading in Coventry
http://www.flickr.com/photos/114083385@N05/12305013416/
4554 pulled into Dudley on a Wolverhampton bound 126 on Sunday 12 minutes late
4pm 297's only just left Hales and 4:05 241's only just loaded
Quote from: Matt on February 07, 2014, 04:15:18 PM
4pm 297's only just left Hales and 4:05 241's only just loaded
Frequency of the 297 is...?
Quote from: Winston on February 07, 2014, 04:29:56 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 07, 2014, 04:25:02 PM
Quote from: Matt on February 07, 2014, 04:15:18 PM
4pm 297's only just left Hales and 4:05 241's only just loaded
Frequency of the 297 is...?
Half hourly
What's the recovery time of the termini? I was told that, to have the service adjusted, you must have a delay greater then half of the frequency, given the other buses around you are on-time.
Any ideas?
Quote from: Matt on February 07, 2014, 05:39:31 PM
Quote from: Nathan on February 07, 2014, 05:36:40 PM
A fair few late running/adjusted workings around Wolverhampton today
Any elaboration?
Sorry I forgot to add to that. Several 59's running dead to Wednesfield this afternoon with one bus running over 10 minutes late, 2017 on the 2 was cut short to Showell Circus, A 1 came into Wolverhampton as a 1E (No 1E's at the time I saw it) then went up Queen St/Market St not in service. Saw both a 69/89 running 10-12 minutes late aswell
VOSA were in the bus station again checking vehicles
Quote from: BN on February 07, 2014, 06:47:22 PM
VOSA were in the bus station again checking vehicles
I presume you mean Wolves Bus Station?
Four 59s and two 69s just came through Wednesfield high street in convoy towards Wolves
Quote from: Matt on February 08, 2014, 01:25:49 PM
Four 59s and two 69s just came through Wednesfield high street in convoy towards Wolves
Saw that this afternoon. Some 59's ran straight onto Ring Rd to catch up time (Does seem to be no convoys on the 59 now)
Two 98s (should be hourly) just passed through Selly Oak together
Quote from: Russ Smith on February 14, 2014, 10:49:52 PM
Two 98s (should be hourly) just passed through Selly Oak together
Was this at your time of posting? If so, that's very poor.
Yep, although they managed to pull apart by 3 minutes by Five Ways aha
http://www.flickr.com/photos/97045091@N06/12537823155/
Not as bad as the time last September when I saw three in convoy and another 20 or so seconds behind on Leach Green Lane at around 1500...
4136 and 4681 were running within 1-2 minutes of each other on WA69 in W'ton City Centre yesterday (30 minute frequency)
Also 4309 and 4734 running within Minutes of each other in Walsall Town Centre this afternoon
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 15, 2014, 10:19:34 AM
Quote from: Russ Smith on February 14, 2014, 10:49:52 PM
Two 98s (should be hourly) just passed through Selly Oak together
Was this at your time of posting? If so, that's very poor.
I was driving on my way home from work on Thursday around 23:30, there was one 98 by University Station heading towards City Centre, then another going up to the QE
Quote from: Ex BC driver on February 15, 2014, 05:34:26 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 15, 2014, 10:19:34 AM
Quote from: Russ Smith on February 14, 2014, 10:49:52 PM
Two 98s (should be hourly) just passed through Selly Oak together
Was this at your time of posting? If so, that's very poor.
I was driving on my way home from work on Thursday around 23:30, there was one 98 by University Station heading towards City Centre, then another going up to the QE
Is there roadworks about on the 98 then? I know the running time is tight on the 98 but blimey!
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Quote from: Russ Smith on February 14, 2014, 10:49:52 PM
Two 98s (should be hourly) just passed through Selly Oak together
Was this at your time of posting? If so, that's very poor.
I was driving on my way home from work on Thursday around 23:30, there was one 98 by University Station heading towards City Centre, then another going up to the QE
Is there roadworks about on the 98 then? I know the running time is tight on the 98 but blimey!
There are only two buses on the 98, if they were both at Selly Oak together at 23:30 that would make one 40 min late and the other 20 early which seems a bit strange, perhaps there had been a change bus and one was an enhgineer on the way back to garage
Quote from: Tony on February 15, 2014, 07:33:19 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 15, 2014, 07:15:32 PM
Quote from: Ex BC driver on February 15, 2014, 05:34:26 PM
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Quote from: Russ Smith on February 14, 2014, 10:49:52 PM
Two 98s (should be hourly) just passed through Selly Oak together
Was this at your time of posting? If so, that's very poor.
I was driving on my way home from work on Thursday around 23:30, there was one 98 by University Station heading towards City Centre, then another going up to the QE
Is there roadworks about on the 98 then? I know the running time is tight on the 98 but blimey!
There are only two buses on the 98, if they were both at Selly Oak together at 23:30 that would make one 40 min late and the other 20 early which seems a bit strange, perhaps there had been a change bus and one was an enhgineer on the way back to garage
But according to the timetable it isn't due to leave the QE until 2344?
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 15, 2014, 07:39:05 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 15, 2014, 07:33:19 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 15, 2014, 07:15:32 PM
Quote from: Ex BC driver on February 15, 2014, 05:34:26 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 15, 2014, 10:19:34 AM
Quote from: Russ Smith on February 14, 2014, 10:49:52 PM
Two 98s (should be hourly) just passed through Selly Oak together
Was this at your time of posting? If so, that's very poor.
The first one had dropped off/picked up passengers by University Station, the second one was going up the road to serve the QE
I was driving on my way home from work on Thursday around 23:30, there was one 98 by University Station heading towards City Centre, then another going up to the QE
Is there roadworks about on the 98 then? I know the running time is tight on the 98 but blimey!
There are only two buses on the 98, if they were both at Selly Oak together at 23:30 that would make one 40 min late and the other 20 early which seems a bit strange, perhaps there had been a change bus and one was an enhgineer on the way back to garage
But according to the timetable it isn't due to leave the QE until 2344?
I've just seen two 14s in convoy in Saltley heading to Chelmsley Wood, 4612 & 4154
2 87s in a convoy yesterday
1605 sh4318
Seen 2 99s on both directions in Welsh house farm Rd.
Quote from: Sayeed_M on February 25, 2014, 10:36:07 AM
Seen 2 99s on both directions in Welsh house farm Rd.
So 4 99s in the same place?
Quote from: Matt on February 25, 2014, 10:38:14 AM
So 4 99s in the same place?
No, first I've seen 2 to Halesowen direction then, 5 minutes later, I've seen to city centre direction. Sorry didn't mentioned earlier.
Four 33's chasing each other to Kingstanding, one cut short to the Circle
241 on Manor Way in Halesowen heading towards the town centre at 16:05 15 mins late
16:08 69 from Broad St in W'ton towards Walsall was 15 minutes late yesterday
At least 10 minutes late today
WN1 is in a nice mess today, buses running not in service everywhere
Quote from: Andrew on February 27, 2014, 11:10:55 AM
WN1 is in a nice mess today, buses running not in service everywhere
Diversion in Dudley is adding 5-10 minutes then there's the Wolverhampton diversion and then today the Tettenhall road was closed for a good while in the morning due to a fallen tree blocking the road all in all a right mess!
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on February 27, 2014, 08:21:26 PM
Quote from: Andrew on February 27, 2014, 11:10:55 AM
WN1 is in a nice mess today, buses running not in service everywhere
Diversion in Dudley is adding 5-10 minutes then there's the Wolverhampton diversion and then today the Tettenhall road was closed for a good while in the morning due to a fallen tree blocking the road all in all a right mess!
The 69 and 89 have been running quite late due to the Queen Square Closure.
Four 35s (three Enviros, then a Trident) in the space of 10 minutes around 1:30... That's not right ;). Third bus (4719) was a 35E to Pool Farm
Probably due to the closure of the Bristol Road at Belgrave Interchange earlier, caused traffic havoc I bet.
A lot of 1's running together in Wolverhampton Stafford St this afternoon
33s were all over the place early afternoon. Running in twos everywhere, traffic in town plus Aldridge Road by Boars Head was down to one lane each way due to tree cutting (plus Hawthorn Road lights as bad as ever). Ended up 17 minutes late after 2 trips
1662's running 20 minutes late on the 244, 1743 is having an easy journey right behind
again 3 33's heading for the Pheasey, with the 4th not very far behind
3 28's running together in Erdington too
Quote from: Nathan4775 on March 01, 2014, 06:25:04 PM
again 3 33's heading for the Pheasey, with the 4th not very far behind
3 28's running together in Erdington too
When did you see the trio of 28's?
Quote from: Nathan4775 on March 01, 2014, 06:25:04 PM
again 3 33's heading for the Pheasey, with the 4th not very far behind
3 28's running together in Erdington too
The traffic round Spitfire Island was awful as usual for a Saturday, so 28s were all over the place today.
For 4 33s to be that close together is unusual, especially out of City (must have been a holdup). Not even the Hawthorn Rdlights are that bad
Most Wolverhampton City Centre services delayed this afternoon due to very heavy traffic because of the Wolves V Port Vale match. At least 4 59's in a row and two 69's within less than 10 minutes of each other (30 minute service)
Quote from: Nathan on March 01, 2014, 07:09:37 PM
Most Wolverhampton City Centre services delayed this afternoon due to very heavy traffic because of the Wolves V Port Vale match. At least 4 59's in a row and two 69's within less than 10 minutes of each other (30 minute service)
Surprising that a match like that can cause traffic problems
Meanwhile, the 9 I'm on is running over 20 mins late, potentially a 40 minute gap in service. Not good.
Quote from: Matt on March 01, 2014, 07:17:32 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 01, 2014, 07:09:37 PM
Most Wolverhampton City Centre services delayed this afternoon due to very heavy traffic because of the Wolves V Port Vale match. At least 4 59's in a row and two 69's within less than 10 minutes of each other (30 minute service)
Surprising that a match like that can cause traffic problems
Meanwhile, the 9 I'm on is running over 20 mins late, potentially a 40 minute gap in service. Not good.
Matt,its like that most Saturday's. A lot of people watch the game and there is lots of traffic around plus Queen Square is shut to traffic so no surprise that the match cause heavy delays ::)
Quote from: Nathan on March 01, 2014, 07:26:13 PM
Quote from: Matt on March 01, 2014, 07:17:32 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 01, 2014, 07:09:37 PM
Most Wolverhampton City Centre services delayed this afternoon due to very heavy traffic because of the Wolves V Port Vale match. At least 4 59's in a row and two 69's within less than 10 minutes of each other (30 minute service)
Surprising that a match like that can cause traffic problems
Meanwhile, the 9 I'm on is running over 20 mins late, potentially a 40 minute gap in service. Not good.
Matt,its like that most Saturday's. A lot of people watch the game and there is lots of traffic around plus Queen Square is shut to traffic so no surprise that the match cause heavy delays ::)
Its like that when Blues play at Home at the end of each game the Cov Road is closed to traffic and services 17/58/59/60/73 are diverted along the Small Heath Highway as far as Golden Hillock Road then they follow the 8 to the Cov Road to rejoin their normal line of routes :)
Well the City Centre and Waterloo Rd still have traffic running down there plus Queen Square is shut for roadworks
9pm 244 is still parked in Dudley, reason being the relief driver came in very late from the 120 and is in the restroom having their legally required break
Some 50 services were particularly late today. I came off 25 minutes down and no one had caught me up so we were all in the same situation. Kings Heath can be an absolute pain from between about 0930 and 1500 and as soon as you loose your time on the 50 it is nearly impossible to get it back as on a Saturday in particular we usually only get around four minutes of drop back at Druids.
Quote from: YWDriver on March 01, 2014, 10:38:46 PM
Some 50 services were particularly late today. I came off 25 minutes down and no one had caught me up so we were all in the same situation. Kings Heath can be an absolute pain from between about 0930 and 1500 and as soon as you loose your time on the 50 it is nearly impossible to get it back as on a Saturday in particular we usually only get around four minutes of drop back at Druids.
Did you get revenue checked by me yesterday? we were on there from 3pm to 6pm
2027 running over 10 minutes late on WN59
Quote from: Tony on March 02, 2014, 12:14:06 PM
Quote from: YWDriver on March 01, 2014, 10:38:46 PM
Some 50 services were particularly late today. I came off 25 minutes down and no one had caught me up so we were all in the same situation. Kings Heath can be an absolute pain from between about 0930 and 1500 and as soon as you loose your time on the 50 it is nearly impossible to get it back as on a Saturday in particular we usually only get around four minutes of drop back at Druids.
Did you get revenue checked by me yesterday? we were on there from 3pm to 6pm
No not yesterday, I was all done by 2 o clock. Were you down at Joseph Chamberlain college on Moseley Road? I only ask because there was some sort of open day going on and on my last trip into town there must have been about 70 kids trying to get on, I had to turn nearly all of them away as I was already nearly full.
Quote from: YWDriver on March 02, 2014, 01:56:56 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 02, 2014, 12:14:06 PM
Quote from: YWDriver on March 01, 2014, 10:38:46 PM
Some 50 services were particularly late today. I came off 25 minutes down and no one had caught me up so we were all in the same situation. Kings Heath can be an absolute pain from between about 0930 and 1500 and as soon as you loose your time on the 50 it is nearly impossible to get it back as on a Saturday in particular we usually only get around four minutes of drop back at Druids.
Did you get revenue checked by me yesterday? we were on there from 3pm to 6pm
We did at the Junction of Highgate Road where the 8 crosses with the excellent Balsall Heath Police for assistance
No not yesterday, I was all done by 2 o clock. Were you down at Joseph Chamberlain college on Moseley Road? I only ask because there was some sort of open day going on and on my last trip into town there must have been about 70 kids trying to get on, I had to turn nearly all of them away as I was already nearly full.
Yes, whenever the police are there with you they always have a chat with me about any problems on the route or in general.
1436 on 69 is 32 minutes late. Arrived in Walsall at 17:32, picking up the passengers and me. 5 minutes later, 1475 on 69 passed, assuming it is 7-10 minutes late for the 17:30 departure.
Quote from: P419 EJW on March 03, 2014, 05:45:00 PM
1436 on 69 is 32 minutes late. Arrived in Walsall at 17:32, picking up the passengers and me. 5 minutes later, 1475 on 69 passed, assuming it is 7-10 minutes late for the 17:30 departure.
Tbh I think the reliability is worse since it stopped serving Linthouse Lane and W'ton Bus Station. I say send it via the route it did up till 25th January 2014
Quote from: Nathan on March 03, 2014, 06:02:46 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on March 03, 2014, 05:45:00 PM
1436 on 69 is 32 minutes late. Arrived in Walsall at 17:32, picking up the passengers and me. 5 minutes later, 1475 on 69 passed, assuming it is 7-10 minutes late for the 17:30 departure.
Tbh I think the reliability is worse since it stopped serving Linthouse Lane and W'ton Bus Station. I say send it via the route it did up till 25th January 2014
I agree!! I noticed a lot of unreliability on 69. I would very much like the route to be back to normal 69 route. It would be great if it could come back in the bus station, saves me time and effort to walk to the Art Gallery!
Stratford Road services all having a nightmare today, due to traffic light signalling fault at the Formans Road junction in Sparkhill.
Was nearly late for work this morning, and was just as bad, if not worse this evening; I abandoned the 31A at Baker Street, and walked to the 37 stop instead!
4570 and 4581 were running together on WN59 about 20 minutes ago. Buses don't usually bunch at this time on the 59
Quote from: Stu on March 03, 2014, 06:49:29 PM
Stratford Road services all having a nightmare today, due to traffic light signalling fault at the Formans Road junction in Sparkhill.
Was nearly late for work this morning, and was just as bad, if not worse this evening; I abandoned the 31A at Baker Street, and walked to the 37 stop instead!
That would explain why I seen to AG 5'S leaving town earlier :)
Quote from: P419 EJW on March 03, 2014, 06:09:13 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 03, 2014, 06:02:46 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on March 03, 2014, 05:45:00 PM
1436 on 69 is 32 minutes late. Arrived in Walsall at 17:32, picking up the passengers and me. 5 minutes later, 1475 on 69 passed, assuming it is 7-10 minutes late for the 17:30 departure.
Tbh I think the reliability is worse since it stopped serving Linthouse Lane and W'ton Bus Station. I say send it via the route it did up till 25th January 2014
I agree!! I noticed a lot of unreliability on 69. I would very much like the route to be back to normal 69 route. It would be great if it could come back in the bus station, saves me time and effort to walk to the Art Gallery!
I agree, reroute the 69 and the 89 into the bus station and out via the 59 route. And also send the 69 back down Linthouse Lane.
Convoy of 4 37 buses together (2 geminis, 2 omnilinks)
At least 4 WN59's in convoy this afternoon
Just passed quite literally four 9's in convoy down Manor Lane, quite a funny sight. One was a 9E to Halesowen. Also a 241 running 20 mins late.
Quote from: vinh1000 on March 07, 2014, 05:51:43 PM
Convoy of 4 37 buses together (2 geminis, 2 omnilinks)
Stratford Road services have all been heavily delayed today due to temporary traffic lights at the junction with Henley Street in Sparkbrook. I was very late for work this morning; I got on the 07:50 37 from Acocks Green, which should have got to Camp Hill at about 08:10. I got to work at 08:50 :( (and that was after abandoning the bus in Sparkbrook and walking further up the road where I managed to get on a 3 which was further ahead in the queue!)
Still bad this evening, the southbound lane has been cordoned off, as there appears to be a hole in the road, looks like subsidence. Not as bad as the massive hole that appeared in Henley Street last year (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-23419356) but probably no coincidence...
126's running late/diverted this morning due to 4 vehicle RTC on Birmingham New Road this morning
Quote from: Matt on March 07, 2014, 06:13:25 PM
Just passed quite literally four 9's in convoy down Manor Lane, quite a funny sight. One was a 9E to Halesowen. Also a 241 running 20 mins late.
It was the same on Wednesday evening for me. I got on one on Broad St, with a 9E to Quinton directly behind. Then while in the stop at Bearwood this bus went past closely followed by two more 9s and a 140. Strange to see 5 buses in a queue on the island in Quinton. The roadworks in Bearwood are causing quite a lot of traffic coming out of Brum, especially during rush hour.
Some 900's were all over the place this afternoon/evening.
The 16:45/17:15/17:47 900s from Coventry were non shows while I was waiting for the 900 an elderly lady told me she'd been waiting since 16:40 for the 16:45 and no 900's turned up until 18:15 then 4898 rolled up forming the 18:19 from Coventry which I boarded.
4896 was due to operate the 17:47 she rolled up at the designated stop with Sorry! Not In Service on the display and left empty. I'm not sure if the buses operating the 16:45 & 17:15 turned up in Coventry as I was on TDC 801 on the 16:20 X6 from Leicester at the time.
All this was due to an accident in the late afternoon not sure where though as another lady asked the driver of 4896 "whats happened with the 900's" and the driver said "There had been an accident" and that's all I could gather.
Quote from: Rob H on March 08, 2014, 10:08:08 PM
Some 900's were all over the place this afternoon/evening.
The 16:45/17:15/17:47 900s from Coventry were non shows while I was waiting for the 900 an elderly lady told me she'd been waiting since 16:40 for the 16:45 and no 900's turned up until 18:15 then 4898 rolled up forming the 18:19 from Coventry which I boarded.
4896 was due to operate the 17:47 she rolled up at the designated stop with Sorry! Not In Service on the display and left empty. I'm not sure if the buses operating the 16:45 & 17:15 turned up in Coventry as I was on TDC 801 on the 16:20 X6 from Leicester at the time.
All this was due to an accident in the late afternoon not sure where though as another lady asked the driver of 4896 "whats happened with the 900's" and the driver said "There had been an accident" and that's all I could gather.
I believe there was an accident at the Swan, around 4pm. Services were diverted via Brays Rd, Barrows Ln, Moat Ln & Church Rd.
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on March 08, 2014, 10:12:10 PM
Quote from: Rob H on March 08, 2014, 10:08:08 PM
Some 900's were all over the place this afternoon/evening.
The 16:45/17:15/17:47 900s from Coventry were non shows while I was waiting for the 900 an elderly lady told me she'd been waiting since 16:40 for the 16:45 and no 900's turned up until 18:15 then 4898 rolled up forming the 18:19 from Coventry which I boarded.
4896 was due to operate the 17:47 she rolled up at the designated stop with Sorry! Not In Service on the display and left empty. I'm not sure if the buses operating the 16:45 & 17:15 turned up in Coventry as I was on TDC 801 on the 16:20 X6 from Leicester at the time.
All this was due to an accident in the late afternoon not sure where though as another lady asked the driver of 4896 "whats happened with the 900's" and the driver said "There had been an accident" and that's all I could gather.
I believe there was an accident at the Swan, around 4pm. Services were diverted via Brays Rd, Barrows Ln, Moat Ln & Church Rd.
That expains it thanks Matt :)
wonder what happened & hope everyone is ok
Quote from: Rob H on March 08, 2014, 10:25:11 PM
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on March 08, 2014, 10:12:10 PM
Quote from: Rob H on March 08, 2014, 10:08:08 PM
Some 900's were all over the place this afternoon/evening.
The 16:45/17:15/17:47 900s from Coventry were non shows while I was waiting for the 900 an elderly lady told me she'd been waiting since 16:40 for the 16:45 and no 900's turned up until 18:15 then 4898 rolled up forming the 18:19 from Coventry which I boarded.
4896 was due to operate the 17:47 she rolled up at the designated stop with Sorry! Not In Service on the display and left empty. I'm not sure if the buses operating the 16:45 & 17:15 turned up in Coventry as I was on TDC 801 on the 16:20 X6 from Leicester at the time.
All this was due to an accident in the late afternoon not sure where though as another lady asked the driver of 4896 "whats happened with the 900's" and the driver said "There had been an accident" and that's all I could gather.
I believe there was an accident at the Swan, around 4pm. Services were diverted via Brays Rd, Barrows Ln, Moat Ln & Church Rd.
That expains it thanks Matt :)
No problems, good old Twitter! ;)
The 20:30 243 from Dudley (1518) was running over 35 mins late this evening. It came through Netherton at 21:11
5514 and 5511 running together on WN59 (You don't get bunching on Sundays especially at this time) with 5514 running behind (Should be 10 minutes in front)
Quote from: Nathan on March 09, 2014, 10:10:40 AM
5514 and 5511 running together on WN59 (You don't get bunching on Sundays especially at this time) with 554 running behind (Should be 10 minutes in front)
554?
Quote from: Matt on March 09, 2014, 02:04:38 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 09, 2014, 10:10:40 AM
5514 and 5511 running together on WN59 (You don't get bunching on Sundays especially at this time) with 554 running behind (Should be 10 minutes in front)
554?
A typo error of course.....
Also today the 13:05 255 ex W'ton Bus Station left at 13:18 and was running in convoy with the 13:20 256 along Penn Road.
The 13:01 126 from Bearwood Towards W'ton was running in convoy with the 13:21
5510 and 4543 were running together on the 59 at Lunchtime (5510 was just behind even though it should have been 10 minutes in front)
1776 is currently running 10-12 minute late on WA89
AG's 1 seemed to be having difficulties today, I got on what I presumed was the 15:15 departure from Acocks Green, which actually left at 15:12. As we were leaving down Shirley Road, a Gemini was coming the other way (think it was 4651) also on the 1. Our driver was in a bit of a hurry, so my suspicion he was running late was verified when a call came over the radio, though I couldn't make what was being said, but it must have been some sort of adjustment, as 4651 passed us through Wake Green, then I saw it again turning right out of Amesbury Road onto Salisbury Road. It was showing 'Not In Service' on the display, but I guess it resumed duties as a 1 back to Acocks Green to make up time.
The cause of the problem appeared to be heavy traffic round by Cannon Hill Park; there must have been some event of sorts going on, or loads of people had decided to flock to the park to enjoy the good weather!
Anyway, to anyone who's complained about Scania Omnilinks being slow, they should have been on this one today! They can really shift when they want to!
Event on, single decker used!
Quote from: Stu on March 09, 2014, 06:56:18 PM
AG's 1 seemed to be having difficulties today, I got on what I presumed was the 15:15 departure from Acocks Green, which actually left at 15:12. As we were leaving down Shirley Road, a Gemini was coming the other way (think it was 4651) also on the 1. Our driver was in a bit of a hurry, so my suspicion he was running late was verified when a call came over the radio, though I couldn't make what was being said, but it must have been some sort of adjustment, as 4651 passed us through Wake Green, then I saw it again turning right out of Amesbury Road onto Salisbury Road. It was showing 'Not In Service' on the display, but I guess it resumed duties as a 1 back to Acocks Green to make up time.
The cause of the problem appeared to be heavy traffic round by Cannon Hill Park; there must have been some event of sorts going on, or loads of people had decided to flock to the park to enjoy the good weather!
Anyway, to anyone who's complained about Scania Omnilinks being slow, they should have been on this one today! They can really shift when they want to!
When you get a driver who knows the gearbox, any bus can be quick. And couple that with true EcoSafe driving {As in, timing it correct for traffic light changes etc) you'll have the ride of your life.
the 14:40 82 was 23 minutes late and had the 15:00 behind him
The 33s seemed worse than usual this afternoon. Saw 4 heading out of city within 10 mins (1 was an E to the Circle)
Plus I was running late and the bus in front of me (which I caught up) must have been 15 minutes late
Looking at the app from my stop there is a 59 in 15 minutes then the next one in 21 minutes (One just departed) making one at least 5 minutes late. You rarely get any late running on evening 59's although it could still, be running late from a delay earlier on although there is usually a decent drop back time at Wolverhampton to catch time up by now
76 has been having problems the today and yesterday, certainly in the afternoon. There are temporary traffic lights due to work at Yardley Wood Station which are causing havoc in the afternoon. Yesterday the 16:58 at Kings Heath (from Q.E) didn't turn up till 17:05 and then got stuck at the lights, meaning that it was just under 20 minutes late by the time it got to Solihull, with the next 76 about 2 minutes behind.
Then today caught the 14:51 from Kings Heath, which didn't turn up till 15:01. This then had a driver change at Haunch Lane which took 2 minutes and then with the lights at YW, plus stop after stop due to bus stops and constant red traffic lights meant 1/2 way down the Stratford Road the next 76 (15:11 K.E time) had overtaken us! Didn't get to Solihull till 15:47; It was due back out of Solihull at 15:40! Didn't get out of Poplar Road till 15:52. At least it led to a good Trident thrashing!
51/X51 have suffered severe delays today took 1 hour 30 mins
From City-Scott Arms. Many 51s coming into City was going out as X51s
Many from Walsall were turning round at Perry Barr.
At 2000 Walsall road was still jammed up.
Two 936's running to Brownhills together this evening (around 17:45/18:00)
Three 28's left Hawthorn Road today heading For Scott Arms/Dyas Road
Quote from: lynx1103 on March 11, 2014, 10:58:36 PM
51/X51 have suffered severe delays today took 1 hour 30 mins
From City-Scott Arms. Many 51s coming into City was going out as X51s
Many from Walsall were turning round at Perry Barr.
At 2000 Walsall road was still jammed up.
Quote from: Nathan4775 on March 11, 2014, 11:17:40 PM
Three 28's left Hawthorn Road today heading For Scott Arms/Dyas Road
I imagine the delays on the 28 were also due to the M6 closure for most of yesterday, with some motorway traffic using the Castle Brom junction and Chester Road
Well it took my sister 2 hours from Birmingham to Bloxwich, leaving town at 4pm!
126's all over the place this afternoon due to traffic light failure at Birchley Crossing
I was one of 3 33s heading through Kingstanding together up to Pheasey this afternoon.
It is hard to keep to time leaving City, and into City, the Hawthorn Road lights always make you 5 minutes late at least, when you leave Pheasey on time
Quote from: John on March 12, 2014, 10:23:21 PM
I was one of 3 33s heading through Kingstanding together up to Pheasey this afternoon.
It is hard to keep to time leaving City, and into City, the Hawthorn Road lights always make you 5 minutes late at least, when you leave Pheasey on time
Go on John,,, just pinch 2 minutes! Trolol Seriously though, it's the most annoying things about bus driving, you know you're going to be late by the next timing point if you leave there on time, yet AVL on your back in you do indeed pinch a few! (Doesn't stop some, though)
Stamford St bus stop in Stourbridge, the app says this
9 Stourbridge Due
9 Stourbridge Due
9 Stourbridge Due
9 Stourbridge 34 mins
9 Stourbridge 35 mins
9 Stourbridge 36 mins
9 Stourbridge 39 mins
Two Mercs running in convoy up Quarry Bank towards Merry Hill at 11:10 on the 53, 1620 and 1642 I think they were, not really paying attention!
I think the 9s were a bit delayed. From my stop on Spies Lane it looked like there were temporary traffic lights on the island at the Royal Oak, with traffic going anticlockwise around the island. It would make sense as when I went past there yesterday there was water all over one part of the road, so maybe a leak being repaired. According to the LED displays in the bus stop they seemed to be running in pairs. I saw 4825 running dead twice, when I was waiting it came as a 9E to Bearwood (about 2:30pm) and ran dead to Birmingham, then when I was coming home it ran dead from Birmingham to Bearwood and carried on as a 9 (about 6pm), creating a convoy of 4 9s (one being a timetabled 9E to Quinton) and a 140.
Noted on Lichfield Rd (Wednesfield) within the past 20 minutes
5511 running 5 minutes late on the 59. Rarely any late running at this time on a Sunday
1783 running 6 minutes late on WA89
Quote from: Nathan on March 16, 2014, 08:03:59 PM
Noted on Lichfield Rd (Wednesfield) within the past 20 minutes
5511 running 5 minutes late on the 59. Rarely any late running at this time on a Sunday
1783 running 10-11 minutes late on WA89
1783 is on running board 89-01 which is due to leave Wolverhampton at 20:05 and arrive Walsall at 21:00. It left Wolverhampton at 20:05 and arrived Walsall at 20:58, on the previous journey it left Walsall, 6 Late, and arrived Wolverhampton 6 late at 20:05 to leave on time. So not 11 late
Quote from: Tony on March 16, 2014, 09:06:15 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 16, 2014, 08:03:59 PM
Noted on Lichfield Rd (Wednesfield) within the past 20 minutes
5511 running 5 minutes late on the 59. Rarely any late running at this time on a Sunday
1783 running 10-11 minutes late on WA89
1783 is on running board 89-01 which is due to leave Wolverhampton at 20:05 and arrive Walsall at 21:00. It left Wolverhampton at 20:05 and arrived Walsall at 20:58, on the previous journey it left Walsall, 6 Late, and arrived Wolverhampton 6 late at 20:05 to leave on time. So not 11 late
Sorry my watch was set about 5 mins fast. Thanks Tony :)
There are two different sets of three buses that I've seen in the last 15 minutes on the WN59. The WA69 that I'm on is also running a little late.
2's and 11's very late running due to an accident on Cannock Road so all traffic is being diverted down Bushbury Rd then Wednesfield Road causing heavy delays on the 59 too. (Gaps of 20-25 minutes on the 59 at certain points)
Not sure how badly it affected the 9's/141/99, but there was an RTC on the main road just before/enter Halesowen seemed to be quite a large build up of traffic :)
Yesterday;
Two 907's heading for Sutton at around 8pm
I don't know if there was a problem with the M6 or somewhere else along the route, but the 28s this afternoon were running late all over the place.
At the Yenton, heading into Erdington, there was 4 in the space of around 3 minutes. I had one trip as overtime, and I was running in a trio heading the other way as well. (I was on time for once!)
Mom said it took her just over two hours to get from New Street to Rednal today - apparently a smash at Weoley Park Road?
Four 11A's all heading for Acocks Green Village this evening
Don't get me started with the 28s today.
Tree cutting by the Jaguar on Chester Road meant 3 lanes were down to 1. Plus more at the Fox & Goose, meant we were all running extremely late today. Adjusted twice but still late running, with lots of drivers running special to try and stick to time. On my last trip to Heartlands I finally made it 55 minutes late, then had to run dead all the way to Scott Arms, but was still 30 minutes late getting to the relief point.
I dont know the problem - traffic seemed fine to me - but a convoy of 3 900s into City around 4/4:30 this afternoon. 2 957s together in Hay Mills, then I didnt see another one till Lode Heath which was an E to Yadley, and the one right behind running dead!
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on March 28, 2014, 08:59:17 PM
I dont know the problem - traffic seemed fine to me - but a convoy of 3 900s into City around 4/4:30 this afternoon. 2 957s together in Hay Mills, then I didnt see another one till Lode Heath which was an E to Yadley, and the one right behind running dead!
probably the fact that the Coventry Road was closed due to a building fire!
Quote from: Tony on March 28, 2014, 09:03:16 PM
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on March 28, 2014, 08:59:17 PM
I dont know the problem - traffic seemed fine to me - but a convoy of 3 900s into City around 4/4:30 this afternoon. 2 957s together in Hay Mills, then I didnt see another one till Lode Heath which was an E to Yadley, and the one right behind running dead!
probably the fact that the Coventry Road was closed due to a building fire!
I wonder if the fire was caused by the Thunder and Lightning we had around that time.
Quote from: Tony on March 28, 2014, 09:03:16 PM
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on March 28, 2014, 08:59:17 PM
I dont know the problem - traffic seemed fine to me - but a convoy of 3 900s into City around 4/4:30 this afternoon. 2 957s together in Hay Mills, then I didnt see another one till Lode Heath which was an E to Yadley, and the one right behind running dead!
probably the fact that the Coventry Road was closed due to a building fire!
ahhh Yes, forgot about that!
1752 was running 20 minutes late (Well 19 to be precise) through Wednesfield towards Walsall on WA89. Should have departed the stop in Wednesfield High St at 14:20 but didn't arrive till 14:39/14:40
72 half hour down this afternoon
2 11Cs together on Bearwood High Street around 3:45
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on March 30, 2014, 07:06:12 PM
72 half hour down this afternoon
Thats the first time I've heard the 72 running late on a Sunday as they usually do well for time keeping on Sundays was there any reason why it was late Matt. :)
Quote from: Rob H on March 30, 2014, 10:24:27 PM
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on March 30, 2014, 07:06:12 PM
72 half hour down this afternoon
Thats the first time I've heard the 72 running late on a Sunday as they usually do well for time keeping on Sundays was there any reason why it was late Matt. :)
You tend to get about 5/10 mins late from what I see. Same with the 957, one was 20 mins down I think.
Not sure really, I got on it from Sheldon to Solihull and it was about 15 mins down. Later in Birmingham I decided to get the 72 back to Solihull, and 2 were due, so that one lost another 15 mins from Solihull to City and the 1 behind was about 5 mins down which he caught up by Chelmsely. The bus half hour down put his few passenegers on our bus in Chelmsley and ran dead - back to garage I presume.
Just seen a Honda Civic on its roof outside Kings Norton station, fire brigade were righting the car as I came out of the station. Queue of buses up the hill to the station as long as I could see. Expect long delays to Pershore Road, 18 and anything else thru Cotteridge.
Quote from: Cheese on March 31, 2014, 05:30:31 PM
Just seen a Honda Civic on its roof outside Kings Norton station, fire brigade were righting the car as I came out of the station. Queue of buses up the hill to the station as long as I could see. Expect long delays to Pershore Road, 18 and anything else thru Cotteridge.
2nd one in a week in Birmingham then
http://www.itv.com/news/central/story/2014-03-31/car-flips-and-smashes-into-bus-stop-in-90mph-police-chase/
Manor Road was closed off by Police earlier, so it may have a knock on effect for the 46s
Quote from: Cheese on March 31, 2014, 05:30:31 PM
Just seen a Honda Civic on its roof outside Kings Norton station, fire brigade were righting the car as I came out of the station. Queue of buses up the hill to the station as long as I could see. Expect long delays to Pershore Road, 18 and anything else thru Cotteridge.
Multiple car pile up in Cotteridge again this afternoon!
59's all over the shop this afternoon. 5512 was seen on Lichfield Rd by Wednesfield High School Not In Service where it went down Lakefield Rd towards W'ton :)
A few minutes 4018 went up Linthouse Lane from Lichfield Rd NIS and took up duties again at Ashmore Park
Yesterday on the Lichfield Rd , Wednesfield 3 59' were running together (Caused by Football Traffic disruption) about 6PM followed shortly by a 4th 59.
Today: Delays possible in Wednesfield du to the annual Vaisakhi Parade. Possible delays on 59/89 and severe delays for the 25A/C
Yesterday;
3 WB5's all heading towards Sutton Coldfield
5511/4 were running together on WN59 earlier this evening despite the 12 minute frequency.
Also the 25A/C may have been delayed/diverted today due to the annual Willenhall/Wednesfield Sikh Vaisakhi Parade today which follows most of the 25 route between Willenhall and Wednesfield.
Today:
59's running late this afternoon. 4536 was running nearly 20 mins late due to a parked Car blocking Queen St in W'ton (Again!)
The shit has hit the fan again on the Pershore.
257 I'm on is about 15 mins late now due to very slow bus, very slow driver, very slow traffic...
5 301s running together towards Walsall about 15 minutes ago.
Firstly a Diamond Eclipse, Diamond Centro then 3 NXWM Scania.
Looking at the NX app, WA 89 is currently running 10 minutes late
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on April 12, 2014, 01:01:36 PM
5 301s running together towards Walsall about 15 minutes ago.
Firstly a Diamond Eclipse, Diamond Centro then 3 NXWM Scania.
Does the Mossley require that level of service anyway?
Why not turn short at Bloxwich or balance the service by sending some to Lower Farm instead?
The 69 is running 6 mins late at the moment towards Walsall
Quote from: Daniel w on April 14, 2014, 08:41:17 AM
The 69 is running 6 mins late at the moment towards Walsall
Is it really????
Quote from: Daniel w on April 14, 2014, 08:41:17 AM
The 69 is running 6 mins late at the moment towards Walsall
That's pretty normal for the 69.......
222 to dudley according to the nxwm app is 14 mins late
The RTC by the Boars Head also caused delays on the 33. Various buses running special and also others running together
Something seemed up with the Sutton Services that use Jockey Road this afternoon.
2 907 came in at one, and one (4697) left NIS
2 77s came in together (4137 came in NIS, and parked up for around 15 mins), the other one that came in with 4137 was running late
The 66A at 2.50 never turned up (1843), and the other (1867) turned up late as well, so there was no 66A for over an hour
The 5 also did not seem to be running to time, as there was various gaps between buses, the largest one been around 20 minutes, and the bus that did come left completely full (This might have something to do with 4293 broken down at New Oscott though, causing a bus to be missing)
Just seen two 27 following each other towards Hawkesley in Bournville.
Quote from: John on April 17, 2014, 04:48:28 PM
Something seemed up with the Sutton Services that use Jockey Road this afternoon.
2 907 came in at one, and one (4697) left NIS
2 77s came in together (4137 came in NIS, and parked up for around 15 mins), the other one that came in with 4137 was running late
The 66A at 2.50 never turned up (1843), and the other (1867) turned up late as well, so there was no 66A for over an hour
The 5 also did not seem to be running to time, as there was various gaps between buses, the largest one been around 20 minutes, and the bus that did come left completely full (This might have something to do with 4293 broken down at New Oscott though, causing a bus to be missing)
that might have been something to do with people finishing for Easter and the new Aldi opening at New Oscott. new supermarket, heavy traffic causing surrounding roads to suffer.
1755 currently running at least 10 minutes late on WA89
On Sunday, I missed the 2140 126 from moor street by inches, on the display the next one was 29 mins away, it then just disappeared of the screen with one then turning up at 2220. Not the most enjoyable thing when I've just finished a 12 hour shift.
Quote from: makkacdt on April 22, 2014, 12:10:09 AM
On Sunday, I missed the 2140 126 from moor street by inches, on the display the next one was 29 mins away, it then just disappeared of the screen with one then turning up at 2220. Not the most enjoyable thing when I've just finished a 12 hour shift.
Where were you waiting? It probably got turned at Five Ways
Quote from: Matt on April 22, 2014, 12:14:55 AM
Quote from: makkacdt on April 22, 2014, 12:10:09 AM
On Sunday, I missed the 2140 126 from moor street by inches, on the display the next one was 29 mins away, it then just disappeared of the screen with one then turning up at 2220. Not the most enjoyable thing when I've just finished a 12 hour shift.
Where were you waiting? It probably got turned at Five Ways
He mentioned that he was waiting on Moor St......
Quote from: Nathan on April 22, 2014, 08:32:54 AM
Quote from: Matt on April 22, 2014, 12:14:55 AM
Quote from: makkacdt on April 22, 2014, 12:10:09 AM
On Sunday, I missed the 2140 126 from moor street by inches, on the display the next one was 29 mins away, it then just disappeared of the screen with one then turning up at 2220. Not the most enjoyable thing when I've just finished a 12 hour shift.
Where were you waiting? It probably got turned at Five Ways
He mentioned that he was waiting on Moor St......
No, he said he was waiting for the 2140 from Moor St. He could be waiting for it anywhere on the route, although I imagine he would have been near the city centre as it seems like the bus was turned.
I don't think the RTI displays can detect an untimetabled short working so that would explain why it 'disappeared'
5514 (boar 59/02 I think) appears to be 'missing' on WN59. It was a no show this evening when I waited for it. The next bus that went towards Ashmore Park was 4535 meaning a 24 minute or so gap in service between 4535 and 4593 (5514 should be in between the two)
Yh was at moor street guys
Quote from: makkacdt on April 24, 2014, 12:08:43 AM
Yh was at moor street guys
Yeah, as I suspected, it was probably turned at Five Ways or Paradise Circus.
wouldn't surprise me, just a wee pain in the a**
Summat was running late just as I missed both a 311 & 313 at Wednesbury Parkway towards Walsall!
Decided to walk into Wednesbury Bus Station in the hope of getting a 38, then a 311 turned up 5 minutes after I arrived at the bus station!
The 13:48/14:08 126 ex Dudley towards W'ton were running together this afternoon as were the 14:48/15:08
Also the 15:30 62 didn't depart till 15:41 from Bus Station
Quote from: makkacdt on April 24, 2014, 05:58:19 PM
wouldn't surprise me, just a wee pain in the a**
Nothing surprises me with the 126
According to the app on my local stop:
59-Wolverhampton 6 mins
59-Wolverhampton 31 mins
Quote from: Nathan on April 27, 2014, 08:11:28 PM
According to the app on my local stop:
59-Wolverhampton 6 mins
59-Wolverhampton 31 mins
Count yourself lucky
Quote from: Matt on April 27, 2014, 08:12:46 PM
Quote from: Nathan on April 27, 2014, 08:11:28 PM
According to the app on my local stop:
59-Wolverhampton 6 mins
59-Wolverhampton 31 mins
Count yourself lucky
Turned out to be incorrect though..... I passed 5513 running pretty much on time
Two 31s just followed each other through Acocks Green village ???
33s running late this afternoon. During most of my afternoon duty (4pm till 6.40pm), I was running in a group of 3 33s, with others running in 2s coming the other way.
This wouldn't have helped (as you can see a 33 stuck in the picture, and there was a 5 stuck as well)
http://www.suttoncoldfieldobserver.co.uk/Kingstanding-Crash-Kings-Road-car-flips/story-21029351-detail/story.html
but I had no idea of this (nothing over the radio), and it must have been cleared quickly as I would have come through here around 5pm
Two 5s together on Carrs Lane around 4:30
Four 21s all branded seen running in convoy in Coventry City centre this afternoon!
3 9s running behind each other through Lye this afternoon all going to Birmingham.
2 241's behind each other on Manor Way, leaving gaps on both 140 and 241's
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 02, 2014, 04:23:24 PM
3 9s running behind each other through Lye this afternoon all going to Birmingham.
4351 in it running not in service ( seen about 5 minutes ago at Colley Gate whilst on a late running wmsnt 240! )
Some buses running in 2's and 3's on the 59 this afternoon. Also there appeared to be a gap in 2's going towards Warstonesvwith a big crowd waiting
Either it's the same 255 just looping round Brierley Hill to Merry hill or I've just seen 2 255s going round Brierley Hill high street to merry hill
Quote from: the trainbasher on May 02, 2014, 05:38:09 PM
Either it's the same 255 just looping round Brierley Hill to Merry hill or I've just seen 2 255s going round Brierley Hill high street to merry hill
Probably a full 255 from W'ton and a 255E from Wall Heath running together?
4609 was sent out of merry hill not in service with 4538 forming the 1748 255E ( so no full 255 for a bit!
829 just arrived merry hill not in service
X96 at 1645/1705 ex Stourbridge both left 5 late
53 came in with the 4M and hasn't left yet!
4M left merry hill 1751
Even the 310 is 10 down arriving at merryhill
Plus 1699 broke down earlier on the 81 at merry hill!
The inspectors told me 4609 was on the 126! I They were incorrect it seems unless it was originally on the 126?
Quote from: Nathan on May 02, 2014, 05:57:34 PM
The inspectors told me 4609 was on the 126! I They were incorrect it seems....
No they were correct, 4609 has been on the 126 allday
Quote from: Tony on May 02, 2014, 06:47:03 PM
Quote from: Nathan on May 02, 2014, 05:57:34 PM
The inspectors told me 4609 was on the 126! I They were incorrect it seems....
No they were correct, 4609 has been on the 126 allday
I never had the time to edit my post (See the modified post to see what that was meant to say)
Quote from: Nathan on May 02, 2014, 07:40:48 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 02, 2014, 06:47:03 PM
Quote from: Nathan on May 02, 2014, 05:57:34 PM
The inspectors told me 4609 was on the 126! I They were incorrect it seems....
No they were correct, 4609 has been on the 126 allday
I never had the time to edit my post (See the modified post to see what that was meant to say)
Still never got to Merry Hill!
It must have been another unbranded 460x that i saw then (Note to self - try not to type on phone without making written notes prior!)
Could have been 4607 trainbasher as i'm sure i saw that on the 255 this afternoon (Can't be 100% sure on that though)
Anyway All Hagley Rd Services will have possible (And surrounding roads so the 11A/C and 48 may experience delays also) due to the May Day Festival at Lightwoods Park:
http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/possible-delays/may-day-festival-lightwoods-park
5513,5511 and 4581 were all running together on WN59 this morning (Quite odd to have 3 bunching on a Saturday Morning)
However expect big delays in W'ton today due to the Wolves Match. The City Centre was the busiest i've seen in a long time! Its usually the Waterloo Rd area, Wednesfield Rd coming out of W'ton and Princess St/Broad St that are usually brought to gridlock
There will be delays/diversions to most if not all services that enter Wolverhampton City Centre today due to the annual Sikh Vaisakhi Parade starting at the Cannock Rd. So all Cannock Rd Services have been using Wednesfield Rd. (Wednesfield Rd by the Post Office up to Ring Rd will be closed in abit affecting 59/89)
Also the Dudley Rd will be closed so diversions on the 1
Quote from: Nathan on May 04, 2014, 10:08:11 AM
There will be delays/diversions to most if not all services that enter Wolverhampton City Centre today due to the annual Sikh Vaisakhi Parade starting at the Cannock Rd. So all Cannock Rd Services have been using Wednesfield Rd. (Wednesfield Rd by the ost Office up to Ring Rd will be closed in abit affecting 59/89)
Also the Dudley Rd will be closed so diversions on the 1
4535 is taking part in the parade, apparently only a 10min delay
The delay was much less than i expected. The parade will be on its way to West Park now.
The diversion for the 1 was Thompson Avenue, Parkfield Rd then left to Normal Line of route and the reverse going the other way
4535 was going through Heath Town earlier displaying Excursions with several passengers on board. (4535 took part in the Wednesfield-Willenhall parade a few weeks back)
Quote from: Nathan on May 04, 2014, 12:05:36 PM
The delay was much less than i expected. The parade will be on its way to West Park now.
The diversion for the 1 was Thompson Avenue, Parkfield Rd then left to Normal Line of route and the reverse going the other way
4535 was going through Heath Town earlier displaying Excursions with several passengers on board. (4535 took part in the Wednesfield-Willenhall parade a few weeks back)
5414 on the 1 did dudley road, lower villiers, upper villiers, goldthorn hill then right onto wolverhampton road east.
Didn't hear that one come through on the radio. I suppose several diversions were in place as they were rolling road closures. I presume the driver didn't hear the diversion over the radio?
2083 running 15 minutes late with the 12:15 241 from Dudley to Halesowen
4809 was somehow running 20 minutes late into Birmingham, as a 9E to Five Ways, in convoy with the one behind (4811). A lot of 9s seem to be late coming back from Birmingham.
Quote from: Matt on May 05, 2014, 01:33:21 PM
4809 was somehow running 20 minutes late into Birmingham, as a 9E to Five Ways, in convoy with the one behind (4811). A lot of 9s seem to be late coming back from Birmingham.
Its due to the May Day Festival at Lightwoods Park causing heavy traffic build up around the Hagley Rd and surrounding area.
2122 & 1931 running together on the 71 towards Solihull seen at The Radley's at 10:30
Im currently on 4651 in a convoy of 5 11A/E, got to love the 11!
Quote from: trident4370 on May 08, 2014, 06:08:52 PM
Im currently on 4651 in a convoy of 5 11A/E, got to love the 11!
Only 4 now - 4036 has dropped off the back!
Haha one down four to go
Quote from: trident4370 on May 08, 2014, 06:14:13 PM
Haha one down four to go
4039s joined in now, back to 5
4673 has just terminated so technically down to four again now!
Thrilling commentary there lads. Hahaha :) :)
As I started this thread, I've retitled it as VERY late runnings, as it's become a little tedious. :-\
Can we just keep this to SPECTACULARLY late runnings, as in my original example of a service running over an hour late?
Buses will run late at times due to incidents and traffic, there's no need for people to report services running five or ten minutes late, as that's to be expected!
That is all, thanks! 8)
It was just a bit of fun.... clearly it made NXDom smile!
Quote from: trident4370 on May 08, 2014, 08:49:54 PM
It was just a bit of fun.... clearly it made NXDom smile!
and two of them were 30 min late
Quote from: Tony on May 08, 2014, 08:50:20 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on May 08, 2014, 08:49:54 PM
It was just a bit of fun.... clearly it made NXDom smile!
and two of them were 30 min late
There we go then, nothing wrong with the original posts :P
Quote from: trident4370 on May 08, 2014, 08:52:15 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 08, 2014, 08:50:20 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on May 08, 2014, 08:49:54 PM
It was just a bit of fun.... clearly it made NXDom smile!
and two of them were 30 min late
There we go then, nothing wrong with the original posts :P
I don't think Stu was targeting you. I agree a convoy of 5 buses is worth a mention but there are some others on here who take the mickey reporting services less than 15 minutes late
Quote from: trident4370 on May 08, 2014, 08:49:54 PM
It was just a bit of fun.... clearly it made NXDom smile!
Thing is it actually did it made be have a little chuckle to myself
I never said anyone was being targeted, just think as nobody had posted anything for 2 days before me, a friendly word was aimed at the wrong person is all. No harm done either way.
Just got off 4738 76 running 20 late, just been overtook by 4340...
No city bound 9s between Quinton church and Paradise Circus at the moment
Quote from: Matt on May 09, 2014, 05:59:04 PM
No city bound 9s between Quinton church and Paradise Circus at the moment
Any reason Matt, thats quite a lond section to have no buses?
Quote from: Matt on May 09, 2014, 05:59:04 PM
No city bound 9s between Quinton church and Paradise Circus at the moment
Yes there was!
Just listing 1 to prove the point
4805 left Halesowen at 17:31 and arrived at Colmore Row at 18:10, so when that was posted was definately there
Quote from: Tony on May 09, 2014, 06:25:16 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 09, 2014, 05:59:04 PM
No city bound 9s between Quinton church and Paradise Circus at the moment
Yes there was!
Just listing 1 to prove the point
4805 left Halesowen at 17:31 and arrived at Colmore Row at 18:10, so when that was posted was definately there
There was a gap of 25 minutes with no 9s where I was stood, possibly longer.
Quote from: Matt on May 09, 2014, 06:32:06 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 09, 2014, 06:25:16 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 09, 2014, 05:59:04 PM
No city bound 9s between Quinton church and Paradise Circus at the moment
Yes there was!
Just listing 1 to prove the point
4805 left Halesowen at 17:31 and arrived at Colmore Row at 18:10, so when that was posted was definately there
There was a gap of 25 minutes with no 9s where I was stood, possibly longer.
21 minutes
4805 left Quinton Church at 17:41; 4804 left at 18:02 and stayed approximately 21 minutes apart all the way to Birmingham
Quote from: Tony on May 09, 2014, 06:39:57 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 09, 2014, 06:32:06 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 09, 2014, 06:25:16 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 09, 2014, 05:59:04 PM
No city bound 9s between Quinton church and Paradise Circus at the moment
Yes there was!
Just listing 1 to prove the point
4805 left Halesowen at 17:31 and arrived at Colmore Row at 18:10, so when that was posted was definately there
There was a gap of 25 minutes with no 9s where I was stood, possibly longer.
21 minutes
4805 left Quinton Church at 17:41; 4804 left at 18:02 and stayed approximately 21 minutes apart all the way to Birmingham
Blimey, must've missed 4805 by a whisker then
4804 was a 9E to Five Ways I think - do "E's" show up on your system?
Quote from: Matt on May 09, 2014, 06:45:42 PM
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Quote from: Matt on May 09, 2014, 06:32:06 PM
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Quote from: Matt on May 09, 2014, 05:59:04 PM
No city bound 9s between Quinton church and Paradise Circus at the moment
Yes there was!
Just listing 1 to prove the point
4805 left Halesowen at 17:31 and arrived at Colmore Row at 18:10, so when that was posted was definately there
There was a gap of 25 minutes with no 9s where I was stood, possibly longer.
21 minutes
4805 left Quinton Church at 17:41; 4804 left at 18:02 and stayed approximately 21 minutes apart all the way to Birmingham
Blimey, must've missed 4805 by a whisker then
4804 was a 9E to Five Ways I think - do "E's" show up on your system?
4808 left at 18:03 then still only 22 min
4804 left stourbridge 22 minutes down and operated a 9E to five ways which was then altered to a 9 to colmore row as the driver (me) pulled back the time departing colmore row at 18:30 instead of 18:22. 4808 was late from stourbridge but on time at quinon.
Quote from: richie on May 10, 2014, 11:00:45 AM
4804 left stourbridge 22 minutes down and operated a 9E to five ways which was then altered to a 9 to colmore row as the driver (me) pulled back the time departing colmore row at 18:30 instead of 18:22. 4808 was late from stourbridge but on time at quinon.
was that the trip that had 4808 overtake at Lye at 1734?
Quote from: the trainbasher on May 10, 2014, 11:56:09 AM
Quote from: richie on May 10, 2014, 11:00:45 AM
4804 left stourbridge 22 minutes down and operated a 9E to five ways which was then altered to a 9 to colmore row as the driver (me) pulled back the time departing colmore row at 18:30 instead of 18:22. 4808 was late from stourbridge but on time at quinon.
was that the trip that had 4808 overtake at Lye at 1734?
4808 was ahead with 4804 in hot pursuit when I saw them, with 4815 not far behind.
Quote from: Matt on May 10, 2014, 12:02:41 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on May 10, 2014, 11:56:09 AM
Quote from: richie on May 10, 2014, 11:00:45 AM
4804 left stourbridge 22 minutes down and operated a 9E to five ways which was then altered to a 9 to colmore row as the driver (me) pulled back the time departing colmore row at 18:30 instead of 18:22. 4808 was late from stourbridge but on time at quinon.
was that the trip that had 4808 overtake at Lye at 1734?
4808 was ahead with 4804 in hot pursuit when I saw them, with 4815 not far behind.
Looking at the NWM app whilst at a stop at Lye (was on 4804!) I know we had something about 2 minutes behind as well!
Quote from: the trainbasher on May 10, 2014, 11:56:09 AM
Quote from: richie on May 10, 2014, 11:00:45 AM
4804 left stourbridge 22 minutes down and operated a 9E to five ways which was then altered to a 9 to colmore row as the driver (me) pulled back the time departing colmore row at 18:30 instead of 18:22. 4808 was late from stourbridge but on time at quinon.
was that the trip that had 4808 overtake at Lye at 1734?
Yes
4565 and 4550 were running together through Bearwood on the Hagley Rd earlier this afternoon on the 126
RTC also caused dead running buses on a lot of services 33s/997s/93*s/907s to try and get back on time. My bus was 20 minutes late coming, then 3 of us all the way up to Pheasey. Finally managed to get back on time 2 hours later
The 51s were also affected, quite a few of those also running in 2s
Quote from: John on May 12, 2014, 06:13:47 PM
RTC also caused dead running buses on a lot of services 33s/997s/93*s/907s to try and get back on time. My bus was 20 minutes late coming, then 3 of us all the way up to Pheasey. Finally managed to get back on time 2 hours later
The 51s were also affected, quite a few of those also running in 2s
Suppose the X51s were affected too.
Sister not happy. (Then again she's always been a moaner!)
Quote from: Westy on May 12, 2014, 11:27:52 PM
Quote from: John on May 12, 2014, 06:13:47 PM
RTC also caused dead running buses on a lot of services 33s/997s/93*s/907s to try and get back on time. My bus was 20 minutes late coming, then 3 of us all the way up to Pheasey. Finally managed to get back on time 2 hours later
The 51s were also affected, quite a few of those also running in 2s
Suppose the X51s were affected too.
Sister not happy. (Then again she's always been a moaner!)
Yes. I waited for 30 minutes for X51. This was from 15:50 to 16:20. 4764 arrived and it was sooooo packed, even it had standees upstairs!
Read on the Birmingham Updates Facebook page that the Scott Arms lights are out. I would expect delays on buses there, especially at this time of day
2242 126 from bham a no show
4197 on the 141 to Birmingham this evening was only a couple of minutes behind an E400.
Everything serving merry hill is up the hole. Just seen a pair of 276 Dudleys booming into merry hill, 297a to halesowen left 15-20 down, and even the 226 is leaving in threesomes!
Just seen two 5s heading to solihull together, one was 4666 didnt ID the first.
Waited 15 minutes for 82 to Bearwood in Cape Hill, first 4 were 87s and 3 82s
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Waited 15 minutes for 82 to Bearwood in Cape Hill, first 4 were 87s and 3 82s
There were 5-6 82's/87's running up Smallbrook Queensway in convoy this afternoon
Quote from: the trainbasher on May 24, 2014, 03:23:51 PM
Everything serving merry hill is up the hole. Just seen a pair of 276 Dudleys booming into merry hill, 297a to halesowen left 15-20 down, and even the 226 is leaving in threesomes!
Apparently there was an announcement in the centre telling shoppers they might as well stay inside and carry on shopping as the traffic was soooo bad, so not quite sure what had happened
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Quote from: the trainbasher on May 24, 2014, 03:23:51 PM
Everything serving merry hill is up the hole. Just seen a pair of 276 Dudleys booming into merry hill, 297a to halesowen left 15-20 down, and even the 226 is leaving in threesomes!
Apparently there was an announcement in the centre telling shoppers they might as well stay inside and carry on shopping as the traffic was soooo bad, so not quite sure what had happened
Haha, they would say that!
I was thinking of going up Merry Hill for some new clothes this afternoon, good job I didn't.
It was still bad at 1800. 10 minutes from the bus station to Quarry Bank high street (by where a diamond Plaxton Centro had broke down on the junction of old high street) on the 002
Two 58s follwing each other near Solihull Town Centre around 15:45
The next Brum 9 is due at my stop in 28 minutes ???
1446 on 69 arrived in Walsall at 15:20, departed at 15:22. 22 minutes late.
1421 on 69 arrived in Walsall at 15:38, departed at 15:40. 10 minutes late.
2315 241 from Halesowen a no show (unless it somehow got from the bus station to my stop in under 90 seconds!)
Quote from: Matt on May 30, 2014, 11:58:49 PM
2315 241 from Halesowen a no show (unless it somehow got from the bus station to my stop in under 90 seconds!)
It was 2091 and left Halesowen Bus Station at 23:15:05 (yes five seconds late), and arrived at the next timing point at Shenstone Avenue at 23:22:31 (1m31sec late). So your fault you missed it not NXWMs
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Quote from: Matt on May 30, 2014, 11:58:49 PM
2315 241 from Halesowen a no show (unless it somehow got from the bus station to my stop in under 90 seconds!)
It was 2091 and left Halesowen Bus Station at 23:15:05 (yes five seconds late), and arrived at the next timing point at Shenstone Avenue at 23:22:31 (1m31sec late). So your fault you missed it not NXWMs
I did not miss it as I was not intending to catch it (where would I be going at that time!), if I wanted to catch it I'd have gone to the stop much earlier knowing NXWM! It must have passed early then. Perhaps NX set their wayfarer time a little wrong yesterday with buses running early.
The bus runs by the time on the ticket machine not your watch
Quote from: karl724223 on May 31, 2014, 08:55:10 PM
The bus runs by the time on the ticket machine not your watch
What if the ticket machine is wrong though?
Quote from: karl724223 on May 31, 2014, 08:55:10 PM
The bus runs by the time on the ticket machine not your watch
Yep, which is what leads me to think it was set incorrectly as the time is adjusted each night
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Quote from: karl724223 on May 31, 2014, 08:55:10 PM
The bus runs by the time on the ticket machine not your watch
What if the ticket machine is wrong though?
It gets resynchronised every morning automatically so I doubt that.
Quote from: Matt on May 31, 2014, 08:57:14 PM
Quote from: karl724223 on May 31, 2014, 08:55:10 PM
The bus runs by the time on the ticket machine not your watch
Yep, which is what leads me to think it was set incorrectly as the time is adjusted each night
Was your time definetley correct?
Quote from: Nathan on May 31, 2014, 09:54:33 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 31, 2014, 08:57:14 PM
Quote from: karl724223 on May 31, 2014, 08:55:10 PM
The bus runs by the time on the ticket machine not your watch
Yep, which is what leads me to think it was set incorrectly as the time is adjusted each night
Was your time definetley correct?
It was 23:16 (radio controlled clock) as I walked out my house and I can see the bus stop within a few seconds of walking out the door. The 241 should pass at 23:19
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2315 241 from Halesowen a no show (unless it somehow got from the bus station to my stop in under 90 seconds!)
It was 2091 and left Halesowen Bus Station at 23:15:05 (yes five seconds late), and arrived at the next timing point at Shenstone Avenue at 23:22:31 (1m31sec late). So your fault you missed it not NXWMs
I did not miss it as I was not intending to catch it (where would I be going at that time!), if I wanted to catch it I'd have gone to the stop much earlier knowing NXWM! It must have passed early then. Perhaps NX set their wayfarer time a little wrong yesterday with buses running early.
Your stop is not a timing point so cannot have passed 'early' and no NX's ticket machines were not wrong yesterday
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2315 241 from Halesowen a no show (unless it somehow got from the bus station to my stop in under 90 seconds!)
It was 2091 and left Halesowen Bus Station at 23:15:05 (yes five seconds late), and arrived at the next timing point at Shenstone Avenue at 23:22:31 (1m31sec late). So your fault you missed it not NXWMs
I did not miss it as I was not intending to catch it (where would I be going at that time!), if I wanted to catch it I'd have gone to the stop much earlier knowing NXWM! It must have passed early then. Perhaps NX set their wayfarer time a little wrong yesterday with buses running early.
Your stop is not a timing point so cannot have passed 'early' and no NX's ticket machines were not wrong yesterday
Then something is wrong with your technology. To get from the bus station to my stop in under 2 minutes is not possible. No offence, but actually being there is more reliable than looking at data
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2315 241 from Halesowen a no show (unless it somehow got from the bus station to my stop in under 90 seconds!)
It was 2091 and left Halesowen Bus Station at 23:15:05 (yes five seconds late), and arrived at the next timing point at Shenstone Avenue at 23:22:31 (1m31sec late). So your fault you missed it not NXWMs
I did not miss it as I was not intending to catch it (where would I be going at that time!), if I wanted to catch it I'd have gone to the stop much earlier knowing NXWM! It must have passed early then. Perhaps NX set their wayfarer time a little wrong yesterday with buses running early.
Your stop is not a timing point so cannot have passed 'early' and no NX's ticket machines were not wrong yesterday
Then something is wrong with your technology. To get from the bus station to my stop in under 2 minutes is not possible. No offence, but actually being there is more reliable than looking at data
The data I am looking at is not ticket machine data it is GPS data records the exact coordinates of a bus, yes your number 9 in the other thread was a couple of minutes early on Manor way, but 2091 was not
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2315 241 from Halesowen a no show (unless it somehow got from the bus station to my stop in under 90 seconds!)
It was 2091 and left Halesowen Bus Station at 23:15:05 (yes five seconds late), and arrived at the next timing point at Shenstone Avenue at 23:22:31 (1m31sec late). So your fault you missed it not NXWMs
I did not miss it as I was not intending to catch it (where would I be going at that time!), if I wanted to catch it I'd have gone to the stop much earlier knowing NXWM! It must have passed early then. Perhaps NX set their wayfarer time a little wrong yesterday with buses running early.
Your stop is not a timing point so cannot have passed 'early' and no NX's ticket machines were not wrong yesterday
Then something is wrong with your technology. To get from the bus station to my stop in under 2 minutes is not possible. No offence, but actually being there is more reliable than looking at data
The data I am looking at is not ticket machine data it is GPS data records the exact coordinates of a bus, yes your number 9 in the other thread was a couple of minutes early on Manor way, but 2091 was not
Is your data running on exact GMT (+1)? Can you tell me the exact time, in minutes and seconds, that it passed Manor Way/Cloister Drive? I'm not suggesting that you are incorrect, I am just intrigued by how I did not see it
1500 9 from city and 1515 241 from Dudley both 20 minutes late into Halesowen
My Mom told me 2 71's were running together this afternoon towards Solihull around 13:30-14:00 1932 was one of them and the other was an ex Dundee Omnilink she coudn't get the fleet number of that one.
It's not exactly NXWM, but last week I rode a London United Trident from Raynes Park to Kingston and the driver announced that we'd have to wait at the next stop for two minutes to take on the passengers from the bus behind, which was being turned short. At the stop he explained that the bus behind was an hour and a half late due to traffic light failure in Tooting. It sort of puts things in perspective. (No tooting in Tooting jokes, please.)
Quote from: Stevo on June 04, 2014, 05:52:47 PM
It's not exactly NXWM, but last week I rode a London United Trident from Raynes Park to Kingston and the driver announced that we'd have to wait at the next stop for two minutes to take on the passengers from the bus behind, which was being turned short. At the stop he explained that the bus behind was an hour and a half late due to traffic light failure in Tooting. It sort of puts things in perspective. (No tooting in Tooting jokes, please.)
Power to the people! !!!!
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2315 241 from Halesowen a no show (unless it somehow got from the bus station to my stop in under 90 seconds!)
It was 2091 and left Halesowen Bus Station at 23:15:05 (yes five seconds late), and arrived at the next timing point at Shenstone Avenue at 23:22:31 (1m31sec late). So your fault you missed it not NXWMs
I did not miss it as I was not intending to catch it (where would I be going at that time!), if I wanted to catch it I'd have gone to the stop much earlier knowing NXWM! It must have passed early then. Perhaps NX set their wayfarer time a little wrong yesterday with buses running early.
Your stop is not a timing point so cannot have passed 'early' and no NX's ticket machines were not wrong yesterday
Then something is wrong with your technology. To get from the bus station to my stop in under 2 minutes is not possible. No offence, but actually being there is more reliable than looking at data
The data I am looking at is not ticket machine data it is GPS data records the exact coordinates of a bus, yes your number 9 in the other thread was a couple of minutes early on Manor way, but 2091 was not
Is your data running on exact GMT (+1)? Can you tell me the exact time, in minutes and seconds, that it passed Manor Way/Cloister Drive? I'm not suggesting that you are incorrect, I am just intrigued by how I did not see it
I could leave Halesowen and be at that stop within a minute
Yesterday a collapsed sewer on the Bristol Road in the morning peak meant it was taking all vehicles two hours to travel from Selly Oak to Bimringham City Centre, buses therefore arriving 1 hour 30 late, latest I have known any route for a long time
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2315 241 from Halesowen a no show (unless it somehow got from the bus station to my stop in under 90 seconds!)
It was 2091 and left Halesowen Bus Station at 23:15:05 (yes five seconds late), and arrived at the next timing point at Shenstone Avenue at 23:22:31 (1m31sec late). So your fault you missed it not NXWMs
I did not miss it as I was not intending to catch it (where would I be going at that time!), if I wanted to catch it I'd have gone to the stop much earlier knowing NXWM! It must have passed early then. Perhaps NX set their wayfarer time a little wrong yesterday with buses running early.
Your stop is not a timing point so cannot have passed 'early' and no NX's ticket machines were not wrong yesterday
Then something is wrong with your technology. To get from the bus station to my stop in under 2 minutes is not possible. No offence, but actually being there is more reliable than looking at data
The data I am looking at is not ticket machine data it is GPS data records the exact coordinates of a bus, yes your number 9 in the other thread was a couple of minutes early on Manor way, but 2091 was not
Is your data running on exact GMT (+1)? Can you tell me the exact time, in minutes and seconds, that it passed Manor Way/Cloister Drive? I'm not suggesting that you are incorrect, I am just intrigued by how I did not see it
I could leave Halesowen and be at that stop within a minute
With a Lamborghini!!
@Matt According to the Network West Midlands all stop timetable, the bus should have arrived at your stop at 23:18, so thats 3 minutes although i feel that is a bit tight especially if the traffic lights by Macdonalds are against you.
@Stuharris 6360 don't worry, all is sorted ;)
59's running in 4's and 5's at one point yesterday and a group of 4 59's today.
Saw two Tridents pass through Heath Town on WA89 within minutes of each other
4824 left Halesowen at 18.25 on the 241. I've never seen one leave so late, with the dropback in Halesowen.
@Matt just think more of this to come after the changes!
As an aside, I think my 142 driver confused folks when coming onto the 9 stand to unload before going not in service!
Quote from: Matt on June 06, 2014, 07:21:55 PM
4824 left Halesowen at 18.25 on the 241. I've never seen one leave so late, with the dropback in Halesowen.
Hagley Road, Bearwood was causing really silly delays today on all services that pass through
Quote from: Tony on June 06, 2014, 08:20:36 PM
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4824 left Halesowen at 18.25 on the 241. I've never seen one leave so late, with the dropback in Halesowen.
Hagley Road, Bearwood was causing really silly delays today on all services that pass through
Do you know why?
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4824 left Halesowen at 18.25 on the 241. I've never seen one leave so late, with the dropback in Halesowen.
Hagley Road, Bearwood was causing really silly delays today on all services that pass through
Do you know why?
Because of the roadworks there it is down to one lane instead of three through the junction
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4824 left Halesowen at 18.25 on the 241. I've never seen one leave so late, with the dropback in Halesowen.
Hagley Road, Bearwood was causing really silly delays today on all services that pass through
Do you know why?
Because of the roadworks there it is down to one lane instead of three through the junction
Jesus, no wonder every bus I saw today seemed to be in a hurry!!
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4824 left Halesowen at 18.25 on the 241. I've never seen one leave so late, with the dropback in Halesowen.
Hagley Road, Bearwood was causing really silly delays today on all services that pass through
Do you know why?
Because of the roadworks there it is down to one lane instead of three through the junction
Yeah its chaos, I was driving along Hagley Road at about 11PM last night towards Dudley and they were just closing it all up, I nearly ended up in the central reservation because there was no warning that once you had crossed over the junction the lane was closed on the other side!
Friday nights last 99 from Birmingham didn't turn up. -
@Tony, can you check what happened?
Everything going through Bearwood has once again bit the dust.
I've seen 9s, 140s, 241s and the 48 I'm on now all running 25 - 30 mins late
One of the 28s this morning was nearly 30 minutes late getting to Dyas Road, it got to Hawthorn about 5 minutes before my bus
Quote from: Matt on June 08, 2014, 03:35:23 PM
Everything going through Bearwood has once again bit the dust.
I've seen 9s, 140s, 241s and the 48 I'm on now all running 25 - 30 mins late
4822 was running together with 4821 from Quinton Stag to Dudley. Therefore the 15:15 241 from Dudley didn't depart till 15:40
Several 126's have been running in 2's this afternoon also. I was waiting for the 9 in Bearwood about 14:55-15:00 and the traffic was terrible
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Everything going through Bearwood has once again bit the dust.
I've seen 9s, 140s, 241s and the 48 I'm on now all running 25 - 30 mins late
4822 was running together with 4821 from Quinton Stag to Dudley. Therefore the 15:15 241 from Dudley didn't depart till 15:40
Yes, that has been the norm throughout the day.
2107 with the 07:35 71 Sutton Coldfield - Solihull Station running 20 mins late this journey was terminated in Chelmsley Wood
something's up with the 98 atm, potential normal, haven't caught the bus round here for a while, but been sat by uni with some old friends for nearly an hour now, saw 4 99s but not a single 98
Waited AGES for a 59 this evening. I must have been waiting 25 minutes. Two arrived together (2064 and 4542 which neither were on here during the day).
Quote from: Kevin on June 12, 2014, 04:48:07 PM
something's up with the 98 atm, potential normal, haven't caught the bus round here for a while, but been sat by uni with some old friends for nearly an hour now, saw 4 99s but not a single 98
Rang a mate up about this one. Says there's about 3 broken down, he says he thinks there consecutive buses. Times about correct for your time of posting.
Ended up waiting 20 minutes for a 6/6A (every 20 minutes). A Trident on the 18A (the 15:04) arrived at Pool Meadow before a Merc on the 18 (the 14:54), and this was at 15:09
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something's up with the 98 atm, potential normal, haven't caught the bus round here for a while, but been sat by uni with some old friends for nearly an hour now, saw 4 99s but not a single 98
Rang a mate up about this one. Says there's about 3 broken down, he says he thinks there consecutive buses. Times about correct for your time of posting.
so, in a situation like this, would BC see sense and send spare buses out to start in town to cover? Because this would have been smack in rush hour from city by the time they were meant to get there
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something's up with the 98 atm, potential normal, haven't caught the bus round here for a while, but been sat by uni with some old friends for nearly an hour now, saw 4 99s but not a single 98
Rang a mate up about this one. Says there's about 3 broken down, he says he thinks there consecutive buses. Times about correct for your time of posting.
Spare buses in Rush hour are not very common things to find
so, in a situation like this, would BC see sense and send spare buses out to start in town to cover? Because this would have been smack in rush hour from city by the time they were meant to get there
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something's up with the 98 atm, potential normal, haven't caught the bus round here for a while, but been sat by uni with some old friends for nearly an hour now, saw 4 99s but not a single 98
Rang a mate up about this one. Says there's about 3 broken down, he says he thinks there consecutive buses. Times about correct for your time of posting.
so, in a situation like this, would BC see sense and send spare buses out to start in town to cover? Because this would have been smack in rush hour from city by the time they were meant to get there
Spare buses in Rush hour are not very common things to find
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something's up with the 98 atm, potential normal, haven't caught the bus round here for a while, but been sat by uni with some old friends for nearly an hour now, saw 4 99s but not a single 98
Rang a mate up about this one. Says there's about 3 broken down, he says he thinks there consecutive buses. Times about correct for your time of posting.
There wasn't a bus between 15:55 & 17:02, but that is only two missing, not 3
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something's up with the 98 atm, potential normal, haven't caught the bus round here for a while, but been sat by uni with some old friends for nearly an hour now, saw 4 99s but not a single 98
Rang a mate up about this one. Says there's about 3 broken down, he says he thinks there consecutive buses. Times about correct for your time of posting.
There wasn't a bus between 15:55 & 17:02, but that is only two missing, not 3
That sort of performance would cause frothing of the mouth and the need for a straight jacket over on the Arriva forum.
@andy don't forget the wanting of another operator to take over with the same fares as they use in the Centro area plus the impending end of the world doom they're a pile of rubbish buses statement
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something's up with the 98 atm, potential normal, haven't caught the bus round here for a while, but been sat by uni with some old friends for nearly an hour now, saw 4 99s but not a single 98
Rang a mate up about this one. Says there's about 3 broken down, he says he thinks there consecutive buses. Times about correct for your time of posting.
There wasn't a bus between 15:55 & 17:02, but that is only two missing, not 3
Thanks Tony, glad you've confirmed it. So I presume it was 2 consecutive buses that expired?
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something's up with the 98 atm, potential normal, haven't caught the bus round here for a while, but been sat by uni with some old friends for nearly an hour now, saw 4 99s but not a single 98
Rang a mate up about this one. Says there's about 3 broken down, he says he thinks there consecutive buses. Times about correct for your time of posting.
so, in a situation like this, would BC see sense and send spare buses out to start in town to cover? Because this would have been smack in rush hour from city by the time they were meant to get there
Spare buses in Rush hour are not very common things to find
But at the same time, are they willing to leave a gap like that in the service? Couldn't they steal a bus from another route?
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something's up with the 98 atm, potential normal, haven't caught the bus round here for a while, but been sat by uni with some old friends for nearly an hour now, saw 4 99s but not a single 98
Rang a mate up about this one. Says there's about 3 broken down, he says he thinks there consecutive buses. Times about correct for your time of posting.
so, in a situation like this, would BC see sense and send spare buses out to start in town to cover? Because this would have been smack in rush hour from city by the time they were meant to get there
Spare buses in Rush hour are not very common things to find
But at the same time, are they willing to leave a gap like that in the service? Couldn't they steal a bus from another route?
The problem was both buses broke down at the outer teminus, so even if you have spare drivers and buses there is no way you could get them from BC to Rubery in time to do these two missing journeys back to city. Where the gaps were spotted at the QE was in the 'to city' direction, nobody waited an hour for a bus there because they also had the 99 to city although it is possible people had to further back. BC did actually manage to find a replacement bus/driver for the next trip out of city which I think most people would expect to be the most reasonably thing to do meaning there wasn't the same big gap heading back out of city.
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something's up with the 98 atm, potential normal, haven't caught the bus round here for a while, but been sat by uni with some old friends for nearly an hour now, saw 4 99s but not a single 98
Rang a mate up about this one. Says there's about 3 broken down, he says he thinks there consecutive buses. Times about correct for your time of posting.
so, in a situation like this, would BC see sense and send spare buses out to start in town to cover? Because this would have been smack in rush hour from city by the time they were meant to get there
Spare buses in Rush hour are not very common things to find
But at the same time, are they willing to leave a gap like that in the service? Couldn't they steal a bus from another route?
The problem was both buses broke down at the outer teminus, so even if you have spare drivers and buses there is no way you could get them from BC to Rubery in time to do these two missing journeys back to city. Where the gaps were spotted at the QE was in the 'to city' direction, nobody waited an hour for a bus there because they also had the 99 to city although it is possible people had to further back. BC did actually manage to find a replacement bus/driver for the next trip out of city which I think most people would expect to be the most reasonably thing to do meaning there wasn't the same big gap heading back out of city.
Fair enough, it was out of city I was thinking about to be honest
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Quote from: Kevin on June 12, 2014, 04:48:07 PM
something's up with the 98 atm, potential normal, haven't caught the bus round here for a while, but been sat by uni with some old friends for nearly an hour now, saw 4 99s but not a single 98
Rang a mate up about this one. Says there's about 3 broken down, he says he thinks there consecutive buses. Times about correct for your time of posting.
so, in a situation like this, would BC see sense and send spare buses out to start in town to cover? Because this would have been smack in rush hour from city by the time they were meant to get there
Spare buses in Rush hour are not very common things to find
But at the same time, are they willing to leave a gap like that in the service? Couldn't they steal a bus from another route?
The problem was both buses broke down at the outer teminus, so even if you have spare drivers and buses there is no way you could get them from BC to Rubery in time to do these two missing journeys back to city. Where the gaps were spotted at the QE was in the 'to city' direction, nobody waited an hour for a bus there because they also had the 99 to city although it is possible people had to further back. BC did actually manage to find a replacement bus/driver for the next trip out of city which I think most people would expect to be the most reasonably thing to do meaning there wasn't the same big gap heading back out of city.
Didn't the other busted one start at Rednal? Spotted it when having a tipple at The Oak Tree [Which used to be The Poachers Pocket... remember that?] ;) - Unless a 98 starts at Rednal in the afternoon? Any GP nut may answer this.
Expect delays on the 28, from next Monday, until next July. Roadworks at the Vale for a whole year will be fun ::)
4899 on Airport 900 & 4900 on Coventry 900 running together this afternoon around 2pm from the Airport (towards Birmingham) 4900 was running 15 mins late from Coventry
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Expect delays on the 28, from next Monday, until next July. Roadworks at the Vale for a whole year will be fun ::)
Its the 28, I expect delays regardless
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Quote from: John on June 13, 2014, 04:19:59 PM
Expect delays on the 28, from next Monday, until next July. Roadworks at the Vale for a whole year will be fun ::)
Its the 28, I expect delays regardless
Sometimes I do wonder why they even bother with a timetable for that route ;)
There are three 141s to Merry Hill within a space of 25 minutes, according to the NWM app.
Quote from: Matt on June 15, 2014, 05:39:33 PM
There are three 141s to Merry Hill within a space of 25 minutes, according to the NWM app.
No 141 has been more than 8 minutes late all day
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Quote from: Matt on June 15, 2014, 05:39:33 PM
There are three 141s to Merry Hill within a space of 25 minutes, according to the NWM app.
No 141 has been more than 8 minutes late all day
Now that doesn't surprise me!!
Three 18s currently at Bartley Green terminus
Quote from: Matt on June 16, 2014, 03:17:56 PM
Three 18s currently at Bartley Green terminus
Hardly Very late, two of them are timetabled to be there and it is a 10 minute frequency
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Quote from: Matt on June 16, 2014, 03:17:56 PM
Three 18s currently at Bartley Green terminus
Hardly Very late, two of them are timetabled to be there and it is a 10 minute frequency
Oh ok. Looked odd to see them all there, as NX are normally so perfect(!)
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Three 18s currently at Bartley Green terminus
Hardly Very late, two of them are timetabled to be there and it is a 10 minute frequency
Oh ok. Looked odd to see them all there, as NX are normally so perfect(!)
No one has ever said they are perfect, but calling one bus running 10 minutes late 'a VERY Late running service' is the other extreme
Quote from: Tony on June 16, 2014, 03:58:10 PM
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Quote from: Matt on June 16, 2014, 03:17:56 PM
Three 18s currently at Bartley Green terminus
Hardly Very late, two of them are timetabled to be there and it is a 10 minute frequency
Oh ok. Looked odd to see them all there, as NX are normally so perfect(!)
No one has ever said they are perfect, but calling one bus running 10 minutes late 'a VERY Late running service' is the other extreme
If I had known the delay was so small then clearly I would not have put it in here. I'm not one of the people who post about everything with 6 wheels they see
7023 & 2116 running together on 71 towards Solihull around 11:45/11:50 this morning 2116 overtook 7023 at Sheldon Wheatsheaf
The 1323 241 from Dudley ran half an hour late, not arriving in Halesowen until 1421
The 13:15 241 didn't depart Dudley untill 13:47 due to the roadworks in Bearwood messing up the Hagley Rd corridor.
Also 3 126's parked together in W'ton this afternoon (4581,4313 and 4568)
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The 13:15 241 didn't depart Dudley until 13:46/47. Is there something happening in Brum because 126's are playing up also?
Begins with a B
Ends in a wood
There's an ear in the middle
Quote from: Matt on June 22, 2014, 02:19:54 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 22, 2014, 02:11:49 PM
The 13:15 241 didn't depart Dudley until 13:46/47. Is there something happening in Brum because 126's are playing up also?
Begins with a B
Ends in a wood
There's an ear in the middle
How long are these Bearwood road works going on for?
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Quote from: Nathan on June 22, 2014, 02:11:49 PM
The 13:15 241 didn't depart Dudley until 13:46/47. Is there something happening in Brum because 126's are playing up also?
Begins with a B
Ends in a wood
There's an ear in the middle
How long are these Bearwood road works going on for?
Judging on what i saw today they will be there a fair bit longer!
Got the 120 to Broad Street at 8pm in plenty of time to get the 1 at 20:07, only to find the realtime info showed the next 1 due in 26mins and the next in 33mins!
(Didn't fancy waiting, so got on the 9 into town, then walked down to Carrs Lane, waited 15 minutes for the next 37, and when that arrived in Acocks Green village, both buses on the 1 were at the stop on Shirley Road!)
The Bearwood delays struck again. The 14:15 241 left Dudley at least 20-30 minutes late. 126's were running in twos also
Quote from: Stu on June 29, 2014, 10:37:38 PM
Got the 120 to Broad Street at 8pm in plenty of time to get the 1 at 20:07, only to find the realtime info showed the next 1 due in 26mins and the next in 33mins!
(Didn't fancy waiting, so got on the 9 into town, then walked down to Carrs Lane, waited 15 minutes for the next 37, and when that arrived in Acocks Green village, both buses on the 1 were at the stop on Shirley Road!)
I always recommend taking any real time info with a pinch of salt. Whilst in this case it was probably correct, it can come up with a load of...nonsense
Two 53s to West Brom just been through Old Hill.
Quote from: Nathan on June 29, 2014, 10:46:30 PM
The Bearwood delays struck again. The 14:15 241 left Dudley at least 20-30 minutes late. 126's were running in twos also
So the new 140/141/241 interworking is going to work brilliantly from the 20th July. Just cannot agree/understand with these changes at all.
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Quote from: Nathan on June 29, 2014, 10:46:30 PM
The Bearwood delays struck again. The 14:15 241 left Dudley at least 20-30 minutes late. 126's were running in twos also
So the new 140/141/241 interworking is going to work brilliantly from the 20th July. Just cannot agree/understand with these changes at all.
@s94 That's pretty much how I felt last year. The interworking between the 141 and 241 has 15 minutes recovery time in Merry Hill should anything go wrong
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Quote from: Nathan on June 29, 2014, 10:46:30 PM
The Bearwood delays struck again. The 14:15 241 left Dudley at least 20-30 minutes late. 126's were running in twos also
So the new 140/141/241 interworking is going to work brilliantly from the 20th July. Just cannot agree/understand with these changes at all.
@s94 That's pretty much how I felt last year. The interworking between the 141 and 241 has 15 minutes recovery time in Merry Hill should anything go wrong
Problem is, with things as they are at the moment, 15 minutes may not be enough.
1459 served 69E because it was 23 minutes late. I would assume it went to Wednesfield because the blind was blank. It arrived in Walsall Bus Station at 17:33 and departed at 17:36. 1421 arrived on time and was behind 1459 in the bus station. I got on 1421.
Seen 1459 again at 18:22, parked by the bus stop just after the New Cross Hospital entrance. The driver was changing the blind to Walsall.
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Quote from: Nathan on June 29, 2014, 10:46:30 PM
The Bearwood delays struck again. The 14:15 241 left Dudley at least 20-30 minutes late. 126's were running in twos also
So the new 140/141/241 interworking is going to work brilliantly from the 20th July. Just cannot agree/understand with these changes at all.
@s94 That's pretty much how I felt last year. The interworking between the 141 and 241 has 15 minutes recovery time in Merry Hill should anything go wrong
not all boards have
Accident on Coleshill Rd this afternoon made the 70, 94 and 28 delayed (I was around 15 late, plus I was running with another 28 for most of the route back from the Heartlands), plenty of adjustment by AVL to try and catch up.
One factor which adds to the delays on 140 / 241 is whenever (I've seen it) the buses always go across to the layover car park to relief, requiring 2 loops of the Bus Station and wasting at least 5 minutes. A few weeks ago a driver was at the stop to relief and had to flag the bus down rather dramatically for him to stop. Why don't the drivers walk across to the stop?
4805 and 2091 both seen just leaving Oldbury for Dudley on the 120
The 59 was totally messed up during the day for some reason.
4764 and 4882 left town together on the 936 just before half 5 this afternoon, and only 2 mins or so after a trident on the 935E
Quote from: Kevin on July 11, 2014, 06:54:47 PM
4764 and 4882 left town together on the 936 just before half 5 this afternoon, and only 2 mins or so after a trident on the 935E
4882 was on time; 4764 was 16 minutes late, but by the time it got to Streets Corner it was only 4 late, so nice clear roads, and passengers on that one got home nice & Quick!
All Hagley road services currently running late due to the road works, mind I'm not that fussed in sitting on a nice hybrid only 20 mins late.
Quote from: makkacdt on July 11, 2014, 11:39:15 PM
All Hagley road services currently running late due to the road works, mind I'm not that fussed in sitting on a nice hybrid only 20 mins late.
Are you aboard 5403 on the 126 by chance?
yes bud I was
Nothing crazy, but a 128 (4641) was running slightly ahead of a 129 (ALX 400) on the Hagley Road towards Birmingham earlier, around 3:30-4. All 128s run 10 minutes behind 129s.
Counting the days to the end of the ever late 205.
634 left W'ton at least 20 minutes late on WN28
126 currently facing 50-60 minute delays between Dudley and Oldbury. No idea why, but something by where the old Oldbury garage used to be causing it
Quote from: Tony on July 25, 2014, 12:53:08 PM
126 currently facing 50-60 minute delays between Dudley and Oldbury. No idea why, but something by where the old Oldbury garage used to be causing it
I was wondering what was going on! I gave up waiting and just caught the 27 (4556)
Apparently there is slow moving traffic and very heavy delays on the A4123 in Tividale around the Birchley Island
1477 on WA 69 was 16 minutes late and departed at 15:21. The bus was really packed. Later on, 1477 was late again for 17:10 departure, but less minutes this time - 7 minutes late.
I was in AVL today - with the person who was monitoring the 126. It was due to roadworks reducing the road to one lane, near Birchley Island. Then there was a RTC nearby which led to a temporary diversion of service down Titford Road, although this only occurred for one bus. It was a nightmare all afternoon, and even when I left at 6pm. There was gridlock in the city which didn't help and so when the roadworks finished, the city centre decided to cause problems. So there was a pile up of 126s in the city centre - the 9 and 120 had the same issue. Really interesting time there!
Yesterday afternoon I was on the Dudley road services , paradise circus lights stuck on red from summer row causing big tailbacks , when I finally got round city heading up city road I noticed that I,m in a convoy of buses I could see 5 in front and 4 in my mirrors, rather amusing I thought. When I got to oldbury there were 4 87s and 128 come in together quite a scene no where to park. I managed to park up now I realise no relief driver so I switch engine off and got out then passengers from another 87 barged on my bus told,em no driver no one listened, I thought why bother after continuous ringing of the bell it dawned on people this bus going no where.
I mean i,m heading up Dudley road not city road.
Two 900s following each other through Meriden en route to Coventry earlier this afternoon. No doubt delayed by the protest that was going on in the city centre earlier.
2 276's near Merry Hill so some will be waiting up to 40 minutes for a bus. I'd imagine Roadworks on nearby Quarry Bank High St and some temporary lights around Saltwells road apparently are causing delays.
1446 on WA 69, 23 minutes late for 17:10 departure. I was told by the inspector apparently bad traffic in Wolverhampton. Dunno if it's true or not... <shrug>
Waited for 39 at 17:45 departure, it failed to turn up. 2 B10Ls on WA 34 were in convoy, they boarded passengers on and left at the same time. Don't know what happened. Whilst being on 1440 on WA 39 at 18:05 departure, seen 1439 following 1475 (both on 39) towards Walsall 6 minutes later.
Delays on WN1 due to police closing the road at 'The Green Dragon'. Hear there has been an accident.
Quote from: Nathan on August 08, 2014, 12:36:07 PM
Delays on WN1 due to police closing the road at 'The Green Dragon'. Hear there has been an accident.
Won't be reopen for a while, from what i have been told. A young girl/lady has been knocked off a bike by a van/truck. Thoughts are with the family.
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Quote from: Nathan on August 08, 2014, 12:36:07 PM
Delays on WN1 due to police closing the road at 'The Green Dragon'. Hear there has been an accident.
Won't be reopen for a while, from what i have been told. A young girl/lady has sadly passed away after being knocked off a bike by a van/truck. Thoughts are with the family.
Sorry to hear that. My thoughts are with their family too
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Quote from: Nathan on August 08, 2014, 12:36:07 PM
Delays on WN1 due to police closing the road at 'The Green Dragon'. Hear there has been an accident.
Won't be reopen for a while, from what i have been told. A young girl/lady has been knocked off a bike by a van/truck. Thoughts are with the family.
Sorry to hear that. My thoughts are with their family too
Express and Star reporting that the cyclist is seriously injured, so hope she makes a full recovery
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2014/08/08/cyclist-seriously-injured-in-lorry-crash/
Expect delays for WA 34, 38 and 39. Something happened in Walsall Road. Lots of police and maybe two ambulances at the scene. Could see a few buses stuck because the police has blocked the road in both directions. 1439 on WA 34 had people on it, poor them having to wait! 1431 on 39 went on All Saints Road then realised it was a dead end and had to go in a small industrial estate and turned around, turned left back on Walsall Road. Turned left to Old Park Road then the driver was stuck, I tried to help him but both of us were none the wiser then he had to talk on the microphone and asked for directions for diversions. The temporary diversion is Old Park Road, turn left to Franchise Street, turn left to Park Lane then turn right to Walsall Road returning to normal route to Walsall. Same goes for reverse.
Quote from: Andrew on August 08, 2014, 01:25:38 PM
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Quote from: Nathan on August 08, 2014, 12:36:07 PM
Delays on WN1 due to police closing the road at 'The Green Dragon'. Hear there has been an accident.
Won't be reopen for a while, from what i have been told. A young girl/lady has been knocked off a bike by a van/truck. Thoughts are with the family.
Sorry to hear that. My thoughts are with their family too
Express and Star reporting that the cyclist is seriously injured, so hope she makes a full recovery
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2014/08/08/cyclist-seriously-injured-in-lorry-crash/
It has been confirmed the young girl has died (as mentioned in the article) Thoughts and sorrows go to family
The 13:00 126 departure from Wolverhampton (4564) departed at 13:17. When i arrived at Dudley on 4576 on the 13:20 trip from W'ton, 4564 was only just leaving Dudley
EDIT: And now we are running together at the Birchley Crossing. The new Traffic Lights at the top of Castle Hill are stuck on red
The driver terminated at Bearwood, Ran private to Five-Ways then turned round and entered service again
Two 59'S have just pulled into Wolverhampton bus Station.
Quote from: Nathan4775 on August 10, 2014, 07:26:01 PM
Two 59'S have just pulled into Wolverhampton bus Station.
Doesn't surprise me but buses shouldn't be running together on the 59's at this time
4323 and 4545 are running together on WN59 this evening
Quote from: Nathan on August 13, 2014, 09:25:42 PM
4323 and 4545 are running together on WN59 this evening
And its 4015 (Very late) and 4310's turn to run together.
Two 73s following each other towards City about half hour ago at the Wheatsheaf
They are finally sorting the Stechford retail park junction so looks like months of misery on the 14s and 11 around those parts for a few months.
5401 was running atleast 12-13 minutes late tonight. Infact my bus (The departure behind) was atleast a minute infront by the time i got off
Not so VERY late but will see a delay on 51 and X51 because there has been an accident at the roundabout on Birmingham Road/Broadway. 12:25 X51 arrived 9 minutes later and went to Not in Service. A lot of passengers were waiting for 12:25, and 4763 12:40 is full.
15:15/15:20 two 59"s pulled into WN followed by a third a few minutes later
Quote from: Nathan4775 on August 25, 2014, 04:15:43 PM
15:15/15:20 two 59"s pulled into WN followed by a third a few minutes later
I was there just after then. Couldn't work out what was causing delays though. Wednesfield High St was closed for the day for a Funday but that wasn't much trouble
Quote from: Nathan on August 25, 2014, 08:24:08 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on August 25, 2014, 04:15:43 PM
15:15/15:20 two 59"s pulled into WN followed by a third a few minutes later
I was there just after then. Couldn't work out what was causing delays though. Wednesfield High St was closed for the day for a Funday but that wasn't much trouble
Wouldn't have been much fun in this weather!
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15:15/15:20 two 59"s pulled into WN followed by a third a few minutes later
I was there just after then. Couldn't work out what was causing delays though. Wednesfield High St was closed for the day for a Funday but that wasn't much trouble
Wouldn't have been much fun in this weather!
By the looks of it everyone was either inside the pub or nobody turned up!
Six YW 6's all heading for Solihull followed by a few 37's
City was an absolute nightmare this afternoon, gridlocked. Lots of bunched up services, and dead running. One driver said it took him 40 minutes on the 33 to get round the City Centre. My 33 was turned around at Perry Barr so I would start my duty on time, but by the time I got in and out of city, I was 15 late, and never really caught up till half 10 last night.
I was in a convoy of 2 33s and 2 51s, and also say 2 93*s together, and 2 907s together also
Yesterday afternoon was a bad one, from BMW sandpits area of brum and back to BMW well over an hour, spent ages twiddling my thumbs at priory square, crawled from there onwards. I could see buses around me being regulated as there blinds changed to not in service. drop off only. I had a peak time running board with big drop backs so I had to ride it out. I did see a broken down west brom ALX400 B7TL bus near the no9 stop at colmore row which didn't help. Around 1930hrs I passed the soho rd city centre there must have been around 250 people waiting, I thought somebody gona have nightmare dealing with that lot.
4897 'Orla' operating the 14:50 900 to Coventry and 4901 'Chloe' operating the 15:05 900E to the Airport & NEC were running together
There were atleast 4 126's and 2 9's together along Hagley Rd yesterday afternoon shortly followed by a 120E- 'Bearwood'
33s and 51s nightmare this afternoon.
I was half an hour reaching Pheasey on one trip. I was running with 2 others from One Stop onwards to Pheasey, and I was adjusted to Perry Barr (where I saw 4 33s (I think one had been taken out of service as the driver had blanked the LEDS) and at least 2 51s queuing up at the Island outbound), then was on time reaching City but stuck on Carr's Lane for 10 minutes. Combination of busy service, and the College Road closure/diversion doesn't help as I was waiting to get from Kingstanding Rd onto Hawthorn Rd for over 10 minutes
Alanna (aka 4910) & Alice (aka 4912) were running together on 957 heading for Solihull @ 09:37 by Lode Heath School.
87,s to Dudley a complete nightmare yesterday during afternoon peak, oldbury town centre to Dudley bus station 1 hour 20minutes. Badly done temporary traffic lights at brades village the cause. I could see all the 87,s in front running private too city , I thought to myself I,m gona get lynched at the stand fornately forme a centro employee stood on the flat form to keep it civilised, standing load from Dudley haven't seen that in years.
289 running in pairs this afternoon, not really a rare a site these days, know I no they interwork with the 53 but is there any chance of improving reliability
I guess this is only a speculation, and has happened quite a few times this time last year, but there are three 101s on it's way into the city, and i'm sure one of the journeys will be a 101E to Grove Lane on it's way back...
Buses: 4246, 4277, 4303
4768 was about 15 late into town just now for the last X51 to Walsall. Meaning everyone piled onto 4857 when it turned up as a 51, which of course was made late with the volume of people and overtaken by an empty X51 in Newtown... Bugger
I had the pleasure of driving through perry Barr this morning and the traffic was horrendous down the Walsall Road from Scott Arms, I am surprised nobody has mentioned any delay.
Quote from: j789 on September 22, 2014, 08:07:32 PM
I had the pleasure of driving through perry Barr this morning and the traffic was horrendous down the Walsall Road from Scott Arms, I am surprised nobody has mentioned any delay.
And it was even worse coming in down College Road/Aldridge Road (33, 907, 997 etc). The traffic lights in that area lost communications with the control room and were doing their own thing
My 37 got held up in bad traffic this morning on the Warwick Road through Tyseley; left Acocks Green about 8:35am and got to just before Camp Hill Island about 9:15am, presumably just because people were slowing down to rubber-neck down Reddings Lane which had been closed off because of the arson attack last night. Once we passed there, the traffic suddenly became free-flowing. However the bus got seriously rammed.
The 1905 81 ex Wolverhampton departed 12 down...arrive merry hill 13 late.. 841
Quote from: j789 on September 22, 2014, 08:07:32 PM
I had the pleasure of driving through perry Barr this morning and the traffic was horrendous down the Walsall Road from Scott Arms, I am surprised nobody has mentioned any delay.
Yeah I mentioned on the Walsall garage thread. X51s were on form that morning, buses heading dead into town to pick up timetable, ergo the next bus sailed past full etc...
Quote from: Kevin on September 30, 2014, 11:15:47 AM
Quote from: j789 on September 22, 2014, 08:07:32 PM
I had the pleasure of driving through perry Barr this morning and the traffic was horrendous down the Walsall Road from Scott Arms, I am surprised nobody has mentioned any delay.
Yeah I mentioned on the Walsall garage thread. X51s were on form that morning, buses heading dead into town to pick up timetable, ergo the next bus sailed past full etc...
Least you won't get my sister moaning now she has a West Bromwich job, unless the 4 starts playing up?
Everything up the Hagley road was late today due to 4 way light at Wolverhampton road and road ripping up Hagley road outbound by the dog to Wolverhampton road
Yesterday morning I think it was, I saw two 3s following each other towards Birmingham in Sparkbrook. Then in the evening, I saw two 5s following each other out of town down the Stratford Road.
That same morning, although a 37 arrived just as I got to the stop in Acocks Green village, I'm guessing there had been a bit of a gap, as there were large crowds of people at stops further along the route, and the bus ended up getting quite rammed. Annoyingly, there was a large crowd at the ALDI stop in Sparkbrook, quite why they couldn't have just got on one of the two 3s just in front baffles me.
4310 was running 15 mins late at the Daisy bank timing point on WN82 at about 16:12.
The 9 has been in pairs and threesomes all afternoon
Quote from: the trainbasher on October 03, 2014, 07:21:08 PM
The 9 has been in pairs and threesomes all afternoon
they really ought to consider putting the 9 on it's own rota and have crew change at Halesowen, then when the Hagley Road was problematic, it would mean you could put in some 9Es just between City and Halesowen to help the late running.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 03, 2014, 09:07:27 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on October 03, 2014, 07:21:08 PM
The 9 has been in pairs and threesomes all afternoon
they really ought to consider putting the 9 on it's own rota and have crew change at Halesowen, then when the Hagley Road was problematic, it would mean you could put in some 9Es just between City and Halesowen to help the late running.
2 lanes closed due to roadworks on hagley road causing the problems
There were two WN1's (Both 540* examples) ruining up Wolverhampton Rd East about 21:05-21:10 last night going towards Dudley
the 15:50 82 ex wolves left 25 mins late and got into roseville with the next right behind it.
Perry Barr underpass is flooded. All the A34 and Aldridge Rd traffic is going round the Wellington Rd roundabout.
Chaos. Queues back to Scott Arms.
I got to the bus stop at the usual time (7:20) to find the morning X56 was still 5 mins away, half an hour late. Couple that with the inevitable problems for the 65/67 getting onto Park Road in Aston it's gonna be an impressive lateness to work for me
Forgot to say that 4132 and 4532 were running within minutes of each other on WA69 last Friday
Quote from: Kevin on October 14, 2014, 07:38:40 AM
Perry Barr underpass is flooded. All the A34 and Aldridge Rd traffic is going round the Wellington Rd roundabout.
Chaos. Queues back to Scott Arms.
I got to the bus stop at the usual time (7:20) to find the morning X56 was still 5 mins away, half an hour late. Couple that with the inevitable problems for the 65/67 getting onto Park Road in Aston it's gonna be an impressive lateness to work for me
And it is still back to the Scott Arms. X51 towards Birmingham being diverted down the M6 if anyone fancies a fast bus ride
Quote from: Tony on October 14, 2014, 12:24:56 PM
Quote from: Kevin on October 14, 2014, 07:38:40 AM
Perry Barr underpass is flooded. All the A34 and Aldridge Rd traffic is going round the Wellington Rd roundabout.
Chaos. Queues back to Scott Arms.
I got to the bus stop at the usual time (7:20) to find the morning X56 was still 5 mins away, half an hour late. Couple that with the inevitable problems for the 65/67 getting onto Park Road in Aston it's gonna be an impressive lateness to work for me
And it is still back to the Scott Arms. X51 towards Birmingham being diverted down the M6 if anyone fancies a fast bus ride
Mental traffic! Eventually got into town 10 past 9, that journey is due in 7:17.... 1hr 40min to get from Tower Hill to Wellington Rd... Granted I could have walked, but I fancied the excitement
Would love to see an X51 on the motorway, probably no chance by 7 when I'm on my way home though
Quote from: Kevin on October 14, 2014, 07:38:40 AM
Perry Barr underpass is flooded. All the A34 and Aldridge Rd traffic is going round the Wellington Rd roundabout.
Chaos. Queues back to Scott Arms.
the 5's were screwed as well. took me 1 hour 20 minutes to get from Pheasey Church to Asda Queslett, normally takes 2-3 minutes. :) left sutton at 09:02 and got back to West brom at 11:11, instead of 09:49. (along with 10 other 5s within the space of 5 minutes, considering there were 13 on the road at the time......)
Quote from: wbdriver on October 14, 2014, 02:55:49 PM
Quote from: Kevin on October 14, 2014, 07:38:40 AM
Perry Barr underpass is flooded. All the A34 and Aldridge Rd traffic is going round the Wellington Rd roundabout.
Chaos. Queues back to Scott Arms.
the 5's were screwed as well. took me 1 hour 20 minutes to get from Pheasey Church to Asda Queslett, normally takes 2-3 minutes. :) left sutton at 09:02 and got back to West brom at 11:11, instead of 09:49. (along with 10 other 5s within the space of 5 minutes, considering there were 13 on the road at the time......)
That was quick, I have just checked and a couple of buses took more than 2 hours!
It was even affecting the 16s. Absolute nightmare this morning. On my second run from Hamstead, around 8.15am, it took me half an hour to get to Hamstead Village from the terminus, then the traffic was awful, all the way to Hockley Circus, then I was supposed to be the 9.03am departure from the markets, never left there until 9.50am. That was supposed to heave Hamstead at 9.35, 10.25am I left. Left city the next time at 11.11am (should have been 10.24am). I finished up 41 minutes late handing over the bus to the next driver.
Some City bound X51s and 51s are using the 16 route this afternoon
Its starting to get gridlocked down there again now. It took me 10 minutes to get the car out of the garage, and reach the Greyhound track at the end of Wellhead Lane, glad I'm not on the 33 today!
Anyone got a clue what the 11 has been like today? Because that's gonna hit the worst of the diversions traffic as well surely?
Quote from: Kevin on October 14, 2014, 06:12:59 PM
Anyone got a clue what the 11 has been like today? Because that's gonna hit the worst of the diversions traffic as well surely?
Doesn't seem to have been too bad this morning, Not too good tonight, but that isn't that unusual either!
Birmingham Mail wrote the article about the flood, looking at the picture of the flood - all I can say is bloody hell! :o The traffic must be that bad. http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/your-perry-barr-a34-traffic-7934546
And now something seems to have happened on the Soho Road, buses are taking over an hour to get from Boulton Road to Island Road
Good job my sister don't work in Brum no more.
I would never hear the last of it!
Updated at 17:52.
Quote from: Birmingham Mail
Meanwhile on the buses, delays continue on services 997, 934, 935, 936, 33, 28, 46, 654 and 907.
Services 51 and X51 are being diverted to city right at Old Walsall Road though Hamstead Village, Hamstead Road to Villa Road, left Villa Road onto Lozells Road to Six Ways, right to normal line of route.
Service 424 WMSNT is not operating into city at present, while Service 61 Central Buses is currently delayed by around 30mins.
Updated at 20:00.
Quote from: Birmingham Mail
The A34 Birchfield Road Underpass is still closed - but it is now hoped the road will reopen before Wednesday morning rush hour.
Were the (WB) 46's affected? I could've sworn I saw two Enviro 200s on Manor Road running in pairs to West Bromwich
Quote from: Sh4318 on October 14, 2014, 09:06:05 PM
Were the (WB) 46's affected? I could've sworn I saw two Enviro 200s on Manor Road running in pairs to West Bromwich
I would think they were with Scott Arms being gridlocked (I did see a 46E to Hamstead today), along with most other North Birmingham services I dare say. I wonder how the 28s coped as well with the roadworks at the Vale also affecting them
Quote from: John on October 14, 2014, 09:23:31 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on October 14, 2014, 09:06:05 PM
Were the (WB) 46's affected? I could've sworn I saw two Enviro 200s on Manor Road running in pairs to West Bromwich
I would think they were with Scott Arms being gridlocked (I did see a 46E to Hamstead today), along with most other North Birmingham services I dare say. I wonder how the 28s coped as well with the roadworks at the Vale also affecting them
Saw 4 in convoy near Kingsbury road so I'm guessing bad
The Washwood Heath Road and the Coleshill Road were congested way worse than usual in yesterdays afternoon peak. I was supposed to do one trip as overtime on the 94 yesterday, but it took me nearly half an hour to get from the Fox & Goose to the Clock Garage, plus another 10 minutes to get from Wright Rd to Drews Lane. These made me nearly half an hour late getting into Chelmsley Wood (there were another 2 94s a few minutes behind me), so I had 15 minutes to run dead back into City for the next driver.
Spitfire Island was gridlocked as well, and this was half 6 last night, so the 28s wouldn't have stood a chance to be on time
Two WA69's within less than a minute of each other pulled into Wednesfield High St @ 18:25.
Didn't catch the fleet no. of the first bus but the one behind was 1782
About 6 529's just coming down to Bilston st (metro Island) really bad delays across that area!
Quote from: NXDom on October 18, 2014, 10:59:47 AM
About 6 529's just coming down to Bilston st (metro Island) really bad delays across that area!
Same with the 82, although not as worse as the 529, 845 and 601 were following all the way to Wolverhampton Bus Station from my bus stop. The Bilston Street Island has a temporary closure on one part next to A41 due to the workers working on the tram tracks. It "should" be finished at 06:00 on 20th October.
Quote from: P419 EJW on October 18, 2014, 12:39:15 PM
Quote from: NXDom on October 18, 2014, 10:59:47 AM
About 6 529's just coming down to Bilston st (metro Island) really bad delays across that area!
Same with the 82, although not as worse as the 529, 845 and 601 were following all the way to Wolverhampton Bus Station from my bus stop. The Bilston Street Island has a temporary closure on one part next to A41 due to the workers working on the tram tracks. It "should" be finished at 06:00 on 20th October.
Absolute horror around Wolverhampton today MOST routes are delayed inc. 1,27,82,529. 82's are running either in pairs or just 25-30 mins late.
Quote from: NXDom on October 18, 2014, 02:45:48 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on October 18, 2014, 12:39:15 PM
Quote from: NXDom on October 18, 2014, 10:59:47 AM
About 6 529's just coming down to Bilston st (metro Island) really bad delays across that area!
Same with the 82, although not as worse as the 529, 845 and 601 were following all the way to Wolverhampton Bus Station from my bus stop. The Bilston Street Island has a temporary closure on one part next to A41 due to the workers working on the tram tracks. It "should" be finished at 06:00 on 20th October.
Absolute horror around Wolverhampton today MOST routes are delayed inc. 1,27,82,529. 82's are running either in pairs or just 25-30 mins late.
Saw 2 40's on the Wolverhampton road about 2 minutes behind each other, and one already in the bus station
Quote from: ARJ2901 on October 18, 2014, 04:36:48 PM
Quote from: NXDom on October 18, 2014, 02:45:48 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on October 18, 2014, 12:39:15 PM
Quote from: NXDom on October 18, 2014, 10:59:47 AM
About 6 529's just coming down to Bilston st (metro Island) really bad delays across that area!
Same with the 82, although not as worse as the 529, 845 and 601 were following all the way to Wolverhampton Bus Station from my bus stop. The Bilston Street Island has a temporary closure on one part next to A41 due to the workers working on the tram tracks. It "should" be finished at 06:00 on 20th October.
Absolute horror around Wolverhampton today MOST routes are delayed inc. 1,27,82,529. 82's are running either in pairs or just 25-30 mins late.
Saw 2 40's on the Wolverhampton road about 2 minutes behind each other, and one already in the bus station
You might well have seen two running together after the chaos in Wolverhampton (4331 & 4305) but there was never a third one anywhere near them!
A reminder to myself as to why I don't use the bus much anymore. Arrived at the War Lane / Fellows Lane stop for a 22/23 to City at 18.04. Supposed departures at 18.07, 18.13, 18.21 and 18.27 and 18.36 failed to show. 4 passed not in service. Finally a bus turned up at 18.39. During that time 8 went past in the opposite direction. I should have walked to Harborne baths but you know the minute you start walking every Hybrid bus in the ****ing fleet will come round the corner.
Not saying it's anyone's or anything's fault but not much fun when you've arranged to meet someone.
Quote from: Mike K on October 24, 2014, 06:40:50 PM
A reminder to myself as to why I don't use the bus much anymore. Arrived at the War Lane / Fellows Lane stop for a 22/23 to City at 18.04. Supposed departures at 18.07, 18.13, 18.21 and 18.27 and 18.36 failed to show. 4 passed not in service. Finally a bus turned up at 18.39. During that time 8 went past in the opposite direction. I should have walked to Harborne baths but you know the minute you start walking every Hybrid bus in the ****ing fleet will come round the corner.
No way, I was at the same stop, been waiting for 10 minutes then decided to walk and caught 99 at war lane/milford rd and it was strange for me to see double deck at tennal rd.
Quote from: Mike K on October 24, 2014, 06:40:50 PM
A reminder to myself as to why I don't use the bus much anymore. Arrived at the War Lane / Fellows Lane stop for a 22/23 to City at 18.04. Supposed departures at 18.07, 18.13, 18.21 and 18.27 and 18.36 failed to show. 4 passed not in service. Finally a bus turned up at 18.39. During that time 8 went past in the opposite direction. I should have walked to Harborne baths but you know the minute you start walking every Hybrid bus in the ****ing fleet will come round the corner.
Not saying it's anyone's or anything's fault but not much fun when you've arranged to meet someone.
The cause was someone who decided to drive their car into the central crash barrier on the M6 at around 3pm, closing the M6 for several minutes and reducing it to one lane for over an hour. Quehe was soon back to Birmingham City Centre along the Aston Expressway, all through the tunnels back to Bristol Street. Once this happens people come out of the tunnels and start using Paradise Circus and completely screw the whole of Birmingham City Centre up. And because it is being caused by the Motorway there is not a lot Birmingham Urban Traffic Control room can do. People taking the alternative route up Walsall Road to Junction 7 soon overloaded the Walsall Road and the queue back from the Scott Arms traffic lights (Sandwell) was back beyond Perry Barr and people queued inbound along the Tyburn Road to Salford Circus also screwing up service from Sutton & Castle Vale
I had to come down Tyburn Road today to the M6 and round to the M5. Getting to Worcestershire from North Birmingham is a nightmare at rush hour as every route is bad. There were 2 lanes open when I went past about 4.20pm but it had taken me over 40 mins to get from near the Fort up to the motorway itself. It looked a bad accident as the car had had its roof cut off. There were two 67 bendibuses together inbound already full I passed so I can only imagine how bad the outbound journey from the city must have been.
4565 was running together with 4539 on WN59 tonight
Quote from: Tony on October 24, 2014, 08:17:29 PM
Quote from: Mike K on October 24, 2014, 06:40:50 PM
A reminder to myself as to why I don't use the bus much anymore. Arrived at the War Lane / Fellows Lane stop for a 22/23 to City at 18.04. Supposed departures at 18.07, 18.13, 18.21 and 18.27 and 18.36 failed to show. 4 passed not in service. Finally a bus turned up at 18.39. During that time 8 went past in the opposite direction. I should have walked to Harborne baths but you know the minute you start walking every Hybrid bus in the ****ing fleet will come round the corner.
Not saying it's anyone's or anything's fault but not much fun when you've arranged to meet someone.
The cause was someone who decided to drive their car into the central crash barrier on the M6 at around 3pm, closing the M6 for several minutes and reducing it to one lane for over an hour. Quehe was soon back to Birmingham City Centre along the Aston Expressway, all through the tunnels back to Bristol Street. Once this happens people come out of the tunnels and start using Paradise Circus and completely screw the whole of Birmingham City Centre up. And because it is being caused by the Motorway there is not a lot Birmingham Urban Traffic Control room can do. People taking the alternative route up Walsall Road to Junction 7 soon overloaded the Walsall Road and the queue back from the Scott Arms traffic lights (Sandwell) was back beyond Perry Barr and people queued inbound along the Tyburn Road to Salford Circus also screwing up service from Sutton & Castle Vale
Thanks Tony, I assumed there was some logical explanation. At least the ex WN B5s don't feature the voice of Phil Upton, that might have pushed me over the edge last night.
Sayeed - agreed, strange seeing a B5 come down Tennal Rd, assume that one must have come off a 24?
At least 4 1's in convoy going through Wolverhampton City Centre going towards Dudley this afternoon
Quote from: Mike K on October 25, 2014, 09:09:30 AM
Sayeed - agreed, strange seeing a B5 come down Tennal Rd, assume that one must have come off a 24?
Yes
276 meant for 1829, 1859, 1929. This is what the live board says...
Quote from: the trainbasher on October 29, 2014, 06:34:50 PM
276 meant for 1829, 1859, 1929. This is what the live board says...
Merry Hill been gridlocked all day
Quote from: Tony on October 29, 2014, 06:40:10 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on October 29, 2014, 06:34:50 PM
276 meant for 1829, 1859, 1929. This is what the live board says...
Merry Hill been gridlocked all day
It's only going to get worse round there now it's only a few weeks to Christmas
In Droitwich Tuesday there was a FMR 147 144A and 144 running together towards Bromsgrove around 5 pm
As per http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=3309 "Merry Hill Chaos" thread quite a few buses late running.
2096 on the X96 is about 10 down, with the one meant to be infront of it literally up its bumper 30 down!
Looking at the NWM live travel map, it says there are 4 X96's within 12 mins of each other and 2 81's within 14 mins of each other. Merry HELL is getting worse by the minute.
Quote from: NXDom on October 31, 2014, 06:15:27 PM
Looking at the NWM live travel map, it says there are 4 X96's within 12 mins of each other and 2 81's within 14 mins of each other. Merry HELL is getting worse by the minute.
And I'm live, right in the muddle of it!!
Anyone know what happened with the wb5 earlier, waited over an hour at Scott arms for a wb bound 5 until one appeared around 16.08.
not NXWM but an houry service, S10, has just gone past over 40 minutes late! lucky its his last trip!
no doubt other services affected by the roadworks on Lode Lane
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on November 03, 2014, 07:01:36 PM
not NXWM but an houry service, S10, has just gone past over 40 minutes late! lucky its his last trip!
no doubt other services affected by the roadworks on Lode Lane
Just a bit
The 70; 71; 72; 73 & 957 are all running over 1 hour late!
Yep, ours weren't doing much better. Lost count of how many sixes I saw leaving at around the same time. It took me one hour to go from Solihull college going into Solihull to the college coming out of town.
Made me around 30 mins down on the 49 and I know at least a couple of them got adjusted.
A 98's just gone through Rednal a good 30-32 late
The end of the Villa game on Sunday evening caused havock with the Lichfield Rd services and the 7. It obviously does at the end of every game, but this was the first time I had seen it
The 7 that was at Perry Common with my 65 should have been there 20 minutes before, and I was 15 late coming off the 65 that evening, as I got absolutely swamped with people heading to City. The traffic heading out of City at Salford Circus was chocka block also, so 65/67s were caught in that as well.
Quote from: John on November 04, 2014, 01:00:05 PM
The end of the Villa game on Sunday evening caused havock with the Lichfield Rd services and the 7. It obviously does at the end of every game, but this was the first time I had seen it
The 7 that was at Perry Common with my 65 should have been there 20 minutes before, and I was 15 late coming off the 65 that evening, as I got absolutely swamped with people heading to City. The traffic heading out of City at Salford Circus was chocka block also, so 65/67s were caught in that as well.
Should see it when they have an evening kick off... The 7 is chaos
Quote from: Kevin on November 04, 2014, 03:29:58 PM
Quote from: John on November 04, 2014, 01:00:05 PM
The end of the Villa game on Sunday evening caused havock with the Lichfield Rd services and the 7. It obviously does at the end of every game, but this was the first time I had seen it
The 7 that was at Perry Common with my 65 should have been there 20 minutes before, and I was 15 late coming off the 65 that evening, as I got absolutely swamped with people heading to City. The traffic heading out of City at Salford Circus was chocka block also, so 65/67s were caught in that as well.
Should see it when they have an evening kick off... The 7 is chaos
Remember before when I was on the 7 (couple years back) and after waiting about 45 minutes I got the 7 (bus 1 of a convoy of 3) from city to perry common terminus, the buses ended up being bunched to the point that after we passed a bus at witton station, we were the next bus (bearing in mind it had to get from witton to perry common and back). Also the roads round Witton. All being single carriageway does little to help.
16s were running late this morning, slow moving rush hour traffic. I was nearly 25 minutes late on my first trip into city on the 16A, so got adjusted to do a 16E to Handsworth Wood, as did the one behind me as well. There was 4 of us within 5 minutes on the way out of City
All Harborne services totally shafted this morning due to roadworks on Harborne Road to Five Ways. Traffic back to Court Oak (24) and Northfield Rd (22/23).
1753 and 1762 seen 1 minute apart, if that, both on 41's bound for Willenhall @1730 on Ashmore Lake Rd
16s were in chaos yesterday, apparently a delivery lorry got stuck on it's way into the Beaufort Arms in Hamstead, blocking the city bound lane
6 246s all a minute and half behind each other...and I go and bash 3 of them! May as well get the value from my nbus!
Bad accident on the A34 underpass in Perry Barr early afternoon delaying services as both directions were shut and all traffic had to use the Birchfield Rd island. I was told the Air Ambulance also landed on the carriageway too. The underpass out of city direction was open around half 1, and the other side not too long after as the cars were been removed. There was 4 33s on Moor Street at the same time a bit later in the afternoon as well, one was an E to the Circle
There's some temporary traffic lights on the Stratford Road in Sparkhill, must have been playing havoc with the services along there today; before I got on the 31 heading out of city in Sparkbrook (didn't fancy waiting another 8mins for the 37, which was bound to have been overcrowded), three 6s had just gone past me. While on the 31, I saw two 5s following each other towards Birmingham.
WN59 was in chaos yesterday and today. Buses running left right and centre with plenty of dead running
Merry hill was chaos today with some buses up to 45 down!
Is there something wrong with 35 and 50 services today? Been waiting for half an hour (3.00 - 3.30pm) at Rea St. and not even diamond service turned up and also, when I decided to go to City instead of Kings Heath 3 50's turned up at 3.40pm
Quote from: Sayeed on November 23, 2014, 06:00:10 PM
Is there something wrong with 35 and 50 services today? Been waiting for half an hour (3.00 - 3.30pm) at Rea St. and not even diamond service turned up and also, when I decided to go to City instead of Kings Heath 3 50's turned up at 3.40pm
I saw a 50E to Kings Heath and a 35E pull up straight after this afternoon outside Selfridges
I was on the Suttons this morning and heard a West Brom radio call for severe delays for their 5 and 46 services. Caused by this lorry getting stuck on Queslett Road
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/great-barr-gridlocked-lorry-stuck-8162059
Yeah the Queslett road was in chaos all day, quite how that lorry made it into that position is beyond me
Quite a few buses in Wolverhampton were late today because of an RTC on Snow Hill neat to WN Ring Road which brought us to a standstill for well over an hour. A Tesco lorry nearly drove into 2023 because there's too much impatience in society today. Police took an hour to do anything about the backlog of cars and buses given nobody entering Cleveland Street from Summer Row had the foggiest idea what had happened
The 7s were mad this morning. I was about 20 late, on a trip from City around half 8, and then there was 4 of us in a row when we got to Perry Common.
Plus I imagine the 28s are fun this afternoon, with Gravelly Lane, Erdington shut due to a truck hitting the railway bridge to add already to the roadworks at the Vale
WN59 buggered this afternoon due to an accident near New Cross Hospital causing heavy traffic around the area. Several buses were 30 mins plus late!
Two 935's entered town at 17:44 an both left as a 935
Quote from: Nathan on November 26, 2014, 10:32:36 PM
WN59 buggered this afternoon due to an accident near New Cross Hospital causing heavy traffic around the area. Several buses were 30 mins plus late!
All services using Wednesfield High St were late this afternoon due the annual Christmas Lights Switch on closing the High St. 4565 was half an hour down when he entered the bus station
Walsall town centre is in chaos at the moment, Diamonds 30833 has crushed a car against the railings on the way out the bus station, looks to me like the car was trying to undertake. The queue for the 529 looks the most fun alas I need to get to Wolverhampton...
Two 936"s departed Birmingham at 18:40
Quote from: Kevin on November 28, 2014, 04:45:30 PM
Walsall town centre is in chaos at the moment, Diamonds 30833 has crushed a car against the railings on the way out the bus station, looks to me like the car was trying to undertake. The queue for the 529 looks the most fun alas I need to get to Wolverhampton...
I saw that queue.
It stretched down to the shop end of the Nx 301 stand!
Luckily there was a guy there who told me where the 301 & 302 were going from!
That corner where the accident happened has always been dodgy!
My new record for late running today. 50 minutes getting into Sutton on a 907 this afternoon (should have been there around 2.25pm, finally got there around 3.15pm). Caused by traffic at Lancaster Circus, and New Oscott. From the island with College Road up to Tesco took me 20 minutes earlier, thankfully I was adjusted the next time round so was able to run dead through Erdington
74/75s screwed this morning due to fire by the Albion ground, Accident by The Apollo 2000 on the Birmingham Road and an accident in Hill Top. One bus came at 10:00 which was the 08:30 75 to Wednesbury.....
X96 seem to be running in pairs atm
Was there a problem in Walsall last night. About 7.15pm, 2 X51s left Birmingham together, and I passed at least 2 'Not In Service' 51 branded Enviro400s heading into Birmingham, and a few Tridents as well
Quote from: John on December 05, 2014, 11:52:22 AM
Was there a problem in Walsall last light. About 7.15pm, 2 X51s left Birmingham together, and I passed at least 2 'Not In Service' 51 branded Enviro400s heading into Birmingham, and a few Tridents as well
I suspect there was something up earlier in the evening as well, waited half an hour for an X51 home, one was missing so naturally the next one filled up at Bull st, so naturally it couldn't stop at either of the corporation st stops
82 running board's are out the window tonight. One bus 4010 on 82/05 was 20 behind, that driver told me the bus behind him was 45 mins down.
4911 & 4912 were running together on the 957 to Birmingham @ 09:20 seen at Yardley Swan
The 99 has totally collapsed this evening.
Quote from: Sayeed on December 11, 2014, 02:57:50 AM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 10, 2014, 07:31:50 PM
The 99 has totally collapsed this evening.
How bad was it?
40-60mins late, I think the whole PVR was running close together at one point. I witnessed 4 together to Halesowen in a short space of time. And then one broke down on the diversion route, never noticed any obvious defects, it was causing major traffic at Metchley Lane
5402 and 2062 running together through Wednesfield on WN59. Something you don't often see on a Sunday.....
Gridlock on Pipers Row (Wolverhampton) was causing problems for services departing the bus station. Several 59's/69's/89's were taking 10-15 mins to get round the City Centre loop instead of the usual 5 minutes. Several buses on the 2 and 126 were sent via Ring Rd, Broad St, Princess Square then back onto Lichfield St to avoid the congestion.
I've now experienced how bad the roadworks on the 28 route are seriously screwing the service up. All of the lanes were open but the traffic was horrendous. Was supposed to take over at 4.32pm, it never came till nearly 5.45pm, all other drivers I spoke to were at least an hour late. Started off Scott Arms bound, left there 1 hour 5 minutes late, then the traffic was gridlock from before the Bagot island, all the way down to the M6 bridge. By that point, there was 4 of us nearly together. Got to Heartlands again over an hour late, with the other 3 buses (there might have even been 4 others by then), with 2 Small Heath bound buses running together. Luckily I ran dead to garage from Heartlands instead of in service to Dyas Rd. Still over 20 minutes late finishing, but better than well over an hour
Sounds like a nightmare John - can't be fun waiting pretty much 1 hour 15 mins for your duty bus. Must be rather tedious sitting in gridlock as well. You'd think they would not be attempting roadworks in what is coming into the busiest time of the year - how long are the roadworks going to last for?
Quote from: Liberator9 on December 17, 2014, 08:51:26 PM
Sounds like a nightmare John - can't be fun waiting pretty much 1 hour 15 mins for your duty bus. Must be rather tedious sitting in gridlock as well. You'd think they would not be attempting roadworks in what is coming into the busiest time of the year - how long are the roadworks going to last for?
It was a nightmare. More-so for the drivers on the 28 rota though having to put up with it 5 days a week. I'm glad I only had to suffer it for one trip. I should have been on the 66 with another driver, but was asked to do this trip instead
They have been on since around June, and are should be on till at least next Summer I think. The last time I done the 28 before today ( good few months since), it wasn't that bad. Even in the daytime, I was hearing drivers were still finishing around 45 minutes late. Luckily I didn't have to come back in service that way, but the Chester Road didn't look too bad heading back towards Erdington
Man they really need to sort the 28 out in general, I get it towards work occasionally (65 from short heath instead of from town, I like the change of scenery sometimes) in the morning but anything from afternoon school rush onwards I wouldn't touch the service with a barge pole, so unreliable.
I remember it tried it once home from Erdington and waited 45 mins for a real 28 instead of the 4 I let pass terminating at Dyas.
Although I do think something particular was up maybe around Tyburn rd / Chester Rd cause the 67 seemed sporadic this evening as well
Quote from: John on December 17, 2014, 09:04:32 PM
Quote from: Liberator9 on December 17, 2014, 08:51:26 PM
Sounds like a nightmare John - can't be fun waiting pretty much 1 hour 15 mins for your duty bus. Must be rather tedious sitting in gridlock as well. You'd think they would not be attempting roadworks in what is coming into the busiest time of the year - how long are the roadworks going to last for?
It was a nightmare. More-so for the drivers on the 28 rota though having to put up with it 5 days a week. I'm glad I only had to suffer it for one trip. I should have been on the 66 with another driver, but was asked to do this trip instead
They have been on since around June, and are should be on till at least next Summer I think. The last time I done the 28 before today ( good few months since), it wasn't that bad. Even in the daytime, I was hearing drivers were still finishing around 45 minutes late. Luckily I didn't have to come back in service that way, but the Chester Road didn't look too bad heading back towards Erdington
Feel sorry for the drivers who have to put up with that 5 days a week - must be a real tiring, tedious rota to be on at the moment. Probably have to put up with some passengers complaining as well, which hardly makes the trips any better. The length of the works is ridiculous - bet you will all be glad when they're done! ;)
Quote from: Liberator9 on December 17, 2014, 09:21:08 PM
...Probably have to put up with some passengers complaining as well, which hardly makes the trips any better...
I dunno I reckon most passengers are used to it on the 28 by now
There were 244 due to Hayley green when in halesowen bus station, one in six mins and one in seven mins
2 71's running within 5 minutes of each other heading for Sutton Coldfield seen in Sheldon by Mardon Road @ 10am
All services have been running late this afternoon??
Quote from: 979 on December 19, 2014, 06:28:07 PM
All services have been running late this afternoon??
Not far off, when I looked at 4pm just before coming home very few routes from any garage hadn't got late running on them
Quote from: Matt on December 18, 2014, 10:30:05 PM
21:15 241 from Dudley a no show, gave up waiting at half 9 and got the 243. It did not seem to be tracking either so Tony may have difficulty investigating this one
Might be a bit difficult to investigate this one as there are three main services on one running board.
I managed to get 50 minutes late on the 907 this afternoon. 2.10pm relief, came off 3.02pm. Even on the first 2 trips of my 101 late night duty I was running 15 minutes late (I've never been that late on the 101 even at rush hour, it took me until 9.30pm to get back on time). Traffic horrendous in Birmingham especially, but was heavy everywhere.
Both yesterday and today, even some 110s have been running in pairs. Yesterday 2 arrived in Tamworth together, and I passed 2 together on the drive home, and I passed 2 this afternoon passing the Horse & Jockey heading for Birmingham
On Thursday 4306 on the 934 terminated at Kingstanding Circle instead of Walsall due to late running and the fact the driver needed to get back before his hours ran out. So he went empty back to Walsall.
The 33s and 907s were struggling again today. Most of the 33s I saw were in pairs, plus some were adjusted, and the 907s nearly running together was well. And there was me trundling along on the 952!
Sounds like a pain there John - even though you weren't on the 28 still having traffic problems! Do you have a favourite route John at PB - in terms of duties, buses or areas?
Quote from: Liberator9 on December 21, 2014, 09:06:29 PM
Sounds like a pain there John - even though you weren't on the 28 still having traffic problems! Do you have a favourite route John at PB - in terms of duties, buses or areas?
I bet it was a pain for the 907s, I know what New Oscott is like at this time of year rom when I done the 907 a few Sundays ago. I was lucky today, didn't get the traffic, the 952 is quiet on Sundays, the only bit of traffic was around by Hotel Latour with people queuing on Park Street for the Bullring car parks. The 66 was ok too, only around Star City was it busy with both traffic and passengers
I'll PM you, saves clogging up the thread
Are all pe services late?
There was 5 33s nearly all in a row at Perry Barr Pheasey Bound this afternoon. Also 907s, 997s and 93*s running in pairs or triplets
My second bus was 30 minutes late which is understandable, but typically the radio wasn't working so I could not get adjusted. So busy in the day, but luckily, after round 5pm it went very quiet, so only managed to finish 10 minutes late
957s two pairs running together and I think there's only 4 buses on a Sunday!
2 79's (4609 and 4548) arrived at West Bromwich Bus Station together about 3pm this afternoon
246 had a 20-25 minute gap earlier heading Stourbridge bound
A34 is doing pretty bad this morning. Looks like everyone wanting M6 southbound from J9 is doing Broadway and Birmingham road, but then just staying on down Walsall road into town. Guessing the M6 is actually nice and smooth as a result but I've been stood at Tower Hill for over half an hour and the only two buses to go past have been 952s full to the brim, with one 51 but that was quite early on when I thought it wouldn't be too long to wait
RTC Southbound M6 is the cause
Quote from: Kevin on January 12, 2015, 07:57:02 AM
A34 is doing pretty bad this morning. Looks like everyone wanting M6 southbound from J9 is doing Broadway and Birmingham road, but then just staying on down Walsall road into town. Guessing the M6 is actually nice and smooth as a result but I've been stood at Tower Hill for over half an hour and the only two buses to go past have been 952s full to the brim, with one 51 but that was quite early on when I thought it wouldn't be too long to wait
Yes, the Highways Agency have managed to completely screw the 51/X51 services up. Scott Arms to City is running as well as a normal peak, and from where the Bus Lane Starts near Merrions Close down to the Scott Arms the buses are managing to do all right thanks to the Bus Lanes, But getting into where the bus lane starts from the Broadway is horrendous with most 51/X51 currently running up to 30 minutes late
All services in the 97, 17, 60, 50, 35 areas including the 1 and 8 are all suffering late running up to an hour at the moment, no idea why.
97s being diverted down Fazeley St, but even that was bumper to bumper at 6pm - never seen it like that.
Was tonight the first night of the Expressway works?
I believe you can't join J6 from the motorway island, and its down to one lane on the slip roads from the Expressway?
Quote from: notepanel on January 12, 2015, 07:55:09 PM
Was tonight the first night of the Expressway works?
I believe you can't join J6 from the motorway island, and its down to one lane on the slip roads from the Expressway?
Correct. And to be honest, the expressway itself was fine about 18:00 coming out of town. Town itself was a nightmare but that's different
Yeah what was wrong with town earlier? The 900's were a total mess circa 40min delays and running togethers. I hear the bypass was solid?
At 17.30 all 3 vehicles on the 654 were at the island at Perry Barr, 2 heading to hamstead with 763 on its way to six ways aston.
Quote from: Kevin on January 12, 2015, 07:56:49 PM
Quote from: notepanel on January 12, 2015, 07:55:09 PM
Was tonight the first night of the Expressway works?
I believe you can't join J6 from the motorway island, and its down to one lane on the slip roads from the Expressway?
Correct. And to be honest, the expressway itself was fine about 18:00 coming out of town. Town itself was a nightmare but that's different
No the M6 slip road is closed from Salford Circus. The expressway seemed ok this evening, but the Lichfield Road on the other hand. One trip on the 65, it took me around 20 minutes just to get across Dartmouth Circus into City, and another 10 minutes out of City, and the next one after that wasn't much better, plus by that time cars were queuing all the way along the Lichfield Road from Salford Circus all the way to Dartmouth Circus, thank god there is a bus lane there! Ended up 46 minutes late in garage (plus I was bursting!)
We have more running time on the 65 with the road closures etc, which for the first trip I done around 3pm was ok, but then the chaos soon started
Roadworks day 2. Same traffic on the Birmingham road.
Think I'm gonna start hitting the village and catching the 16 to town more often
Just seen a trio of arriving 9s at Stourbridge...
My X96 (1677) is only 15 late!
If you want the 244, tough. There's been an accident by the corner of bassnage road, so don't think they can get through
I was driving up Walsall road near the Alexander stadium about 9.30am and in the space of 5 minutes saw 4 51s and 2 X51s + 2 not in service Enviros coming from town so guessing the traffic must have been bad again this morning for them to bunch up like that.
2014 and 4323 currently in convoy on WN59
Quote from: Matt on January 19, 2015, 08:11:31 AM
1629 & 823 in convoy on 244
You beat me to it, I got 30861 on 4H( as usual), unfortunately the merc was first so didn't cross over, but then 823 followed which annoyed me
Quote from: Matt on January 19, 2015, 04:46:13 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 19, 2015, 04:13:38 PM
Quote from: Matt on January 19, 2015, 08:11:31 AM
1629 & 823 in convoy on 244
You beat me to it, I got 30861 on 4H( as usual), unfortunately the merc was first so didn't cross over, but then 823 followed which annoyed me
Didn't see you today. They were literally in convoy when I passed them on Andrew Road
They were in convoy at bottom of portsdown 1629 was first, full with 823 with two passengers
Inner Circle seems to be faring worse than normal at the moment, waited over half hour in Nechells on me way from work
3 246 convoy left Stourbridge at 1806
1762 was around 19 minutes late on WA41 on route to Willenhall (should arrive at Cornwall Gate @1729, actually arrived @1748)
3 X51s and the X56 near enough in convoy this morning at Tower Hill.
In related news, I'm late.
Quote from: Kevin on January 21, 2015, 07:59:40 AM
3 X51s and the X56 near enough in convoy this morning at Tower Hill.
In related news, I'm late.
Could be worse! You could be coming in from Sutton Coldfield!
Quote from: Matt on January 21, 2015, 05:56:03 PM
1454 a no show, I'm at the stop before Birchley Island, it was meant to be here 20 odd minutes ago
Got taken off at Bradford place before that last trip
Quote from: Tony on January 21, 2015, 08:48:45 AM
Quote from: Kevin on January 21, 2015, 07:59:40 AM
3 X51s and the X56 near enough in convoy this morning at Tower Hill.
In related news, I'm late.
Could be worse! You could be coming in from Sutton Coldfield!
Similar wait this evening, and there were plenty of buses going out to Sutton
Quote from: Kevin on January 21, 2015, 06:33:57 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 21, 2015, 08:48:45 AM
Quote from: Kevin on January 21, 2015, 07:59:40 AM
3 X51s and the X56 near enough in convoy this morning at Tower Hill.
In related news, I'm late.
Could be worse! You could be coming in from Sutton Coldfield!
Similar wait this evening, and there were plenty of buses going out to Sutton
You are joining the 'Westy unlucky group'
The 17:45 left Birmingham spot on time. Both the 17:55 & 18:05 got delayed by 20 minutes by traffic in the Scott Arms area, then the delays diminished until the 18:35 left on time, so there was actually only one bad gap in the X51 timetable this evening from 17:45 until 18:14
Blimey.
Ive got a group named after me !
LOL
Quote from: Tony on January 21, 2015, 07:17:56 PM
Quote from: Kevin on January 21, 2015, 06:33:57 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 21, 2015, 08:48:45 AM
Quote from: Kevin on January 21, 2015, 07:59:40 AM
3 X51s and the X56 near enough in convoy this morning at Tower Hill.
In related news, I'm late.
Could be worse! You could be coming in from Sutton Coldfield!
Similar wait this evening, and there were plenty of buses going out to Sutton
You are joining the 'Westy unlucky group'
The 17:45 left Birmingham spot on time. Both the 17:55 & 18:05 got delayed by 20 minutes by traffic in the Scott Arms area, then the delays diminished until the 18:35 left on time, so there was actually only one bad gap in the X51 timetable this evening from 17:45 until 18:14
Yeah that was me then, except the X51 that did eventually leave brum 18:14 sailed past me full to the brim at the bottom of Corporation st so it was even longer
654 service yesterday,the 17.05 from one stop to 6 ways was a no show ; the 17.42 to hamstead being started from one stop with 764. The 17.35 to 6 ways arrived one stop around 18.10 with the service noted behind it in convoy.
3 from this morning;
1st - 4943 & 4909 running together on 957 from Solihull to Birmingham around 08:30
2nd - 2 Sunny Travel Darts (1 was P954RUL couldn't ID the other) running together on 71E to Solihull seen on Hobs Moat Road around 09:50/09:55
3rd - 7027 & 7022 running together on 71 to Solihull seen at The Wheatsheaf around 10am
Quote from: Matt on January 31, 2015, 02:24:22 PM
9s running late due to traffic in the city
Also 3 246s just come into stour in convoy
The 246 really needs sorting out, lately convoy running is becoming the norm!
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 31, 2015, 04:52:59 PM
Quote from: Matt on January 31, 2015, 02:24:22 PM
9s running late due to traffic in the city
Also 3 246s just come into stour in convoy
The 246 really needs sorting out, lately convoy running is becoming the norm!
Tell the idiots that park in the red route at Russells Hall and the other idiots that block brierley hill high street. Wouldn't be a bad idea to campaign to get the entrance to the hospital car park moved ont Pensnett road too. A bus lane between Collis street and stourbridge ring road would be helpful too. 8)
Quote from: Andrew on January 31, 2015, 08:53:52 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 31, 2015, 04:52:59 PM
Quote from: Matt on January 31, 2015, 02:24:22 PM
9s running late due to traffic in the city
Also 3 246s just come into stour in convoy
The 246 really needs sorting out, lately convoy running is becoming the norm!
Tell the idiots that park in the red route at Russells Hall and the other idiots that block brierley hill high street. Wouldn't be a bad idea to campaign to get the entrance to the hospital car park moved ont Pensnett road too. A bus lane between Collis street and stourbridge ring road would be helpful too. 8)
Think the council should never have allowed parking in the High Street, and to be honest, the 246 should go back to it's old route avoiding the hospital, enough other routes serve it!
Is there something up with the 74 going towards Dudley?
In West Bromwich about 10ish minutes ago it said there is not a 74 for another like 25 mins (I had just missed one) and then after that there is one like 5 mins later?
What's with the huge gap between buses?
Looks like the whole of South East Birmingham is screwed again tonight!
900s are currently running about an hour late, and every route between the Bristol Road and Bordesley Green with severe delays still even at 19:20
Quote from: Tony on February 17, 2015, 07:20:12 PM
Looks like the whole of South East Birmingham is screwed again tonight!
900s are currently running about an hour late, and every route between the Bristol Road and Bordesley Green with severe delays still even at 19:20
How long is this disruption supposed to last?
To give you a clue how bad traffic is tonight the 16:50 900 to Coventry left Birmingham 5 minutes late and so far (19:43) has got to Airport. That is 2h50 minutes!
Quote from: Tony on February 17, 2015, 07:44:37 PM
To give you a clue how bad traffic is tonight the 16:50 900 to Coventry left Birmingham 5 minutes late and so far (19:43) has got to Airport. That is 2h50 minutes!
I'm assuming the traffic will be the same again tonight around the NEC area, and for the rest of the week cause of the Caravan show. Was the same last year, a nightmare to get home from work!
The pe 9s are running in duos or trios, not help by 10 minute waits in colley gate( resurfacing), and then the paradise circus roadworks also
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 19, 2015, 12:27:50 PM
The pe 9s are running in duos or trios, not help by 10 minute waits in colley gate( resurfacing), and then the paradise circus roadworks also
Don't blame Paradise Circus that doesn't cause any delays at all, usually more free flowing than before the roadworks except when it gets the end of the Aston Expressway tailback in the evening. Buses are actually making up some of the lost time cause by Colley Gate in Birmingham
Quote from: Tony on February 19, 2015, 01:07:16 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 19, 2015, 12:27:50 PM
The pe 9s are running in duos or trios, not help by 10 minute waits in colley gate( resurfacing), and then the paradise circus roadworks also
Don't blame Paradise Circus that doesn't cause any delays at all, usually more free flowing than before the roadworks except when it gets the end of the Aston Expressway tailback in the evening. Buses are actually making up some of the lost time cause by Colley Gate in Birmingham
Why they decide to do road surfacing in the week day I don't know. Why not do it on a Sunday or at night?
@Trident 4194 Theoretically doing roadworks off peak and/or during school holidays means less traffic on the roads meaning less congestion.
Of course that's not usually the case!
Quote from: Tony on February 17, 2015, 07:20:12 PM
Looks like the whole of South East Birmingham is screwed again tonight!
900s are currently running about an hour late, and every route between the Bristol Road and Bordesley Green with severe delays still even at 19:20
How did the BR and Pershore run in the afternoon,
@Tony?
What happened tonight very heavy traffic heading out of city via Digbeth @6pm I know the motorway junction is shut
Quote from: Solo1 on February 24, 2015, 07:29:13 PM
What happened tonight very heavy traffic heading out of city via Digbeth @6pm I know the motorway junction is shut
As I was getting off the 37 just now, the driver was on the radio, didn't hear the whole conversation, but was mention of a road being closed, "where the traffic goes left at the lights" was all I caught.
Being the families resident bus fan, it's usually me who gets texts from my sister about her bus journeys.
Tonight after being approx 20mins late, her 58 then got held up for another approx 20minutes in heavy traffic around Digbeth. Obviously with rush hour traffic and roadworks, these things can happen, but it seems her driver then told everyone to get off and board the already crowded 58 that was due after him. It seems it was his time to finish, or driving hours were up/ something similar.
I'm waiting to hear from her where this happened. Do NX have a plan in place for if and when this happens? Are there spare drivers who could have maybe taken over at Adderley Street if a drivers hours are up due to late running?
Interested to hear your thoughts
@Tony
Quote from: Gareth on February 24, 2015, 07:43:05 PM
Being the families resident bus fan, it's usually me who gets texts from my sister about her bus journeys.
Tonight after being approx 20mins late, her 58 then got held up for another approx 20minutes in heavy traffic around Digbeth. Obviously with rush hour traffic and roadworks, these things can happen, but it seems her driver then told everyone to get off and board the already crowded 58 that was due after him. It seems it was his time to finish, or driving hours were up/ something similar.
I'm waiting to hear from her where this happened. Do NX have a plan in place for if and when this happens? Are there spare drivers who could have maybe taken over at Adderley Street if a drivers hours are up due to late running?
Interested to hear your thoughts @Tony
Drivers hours are a legal requirement. In the evening peak do you really think NX could have several hundred drivers on standby just in case?. As I have posted in another thread almost every AG, BC(Garrison Lane around to Bristol Road), BY & YW bus was running up to an hour late. If a driver is close to the end of a 5h30min portion or an 8h30min straight through duty it is one of those unfortunate things that he has to stop driving at the next 'convenient point' he is allowed to exceed those limits due to unforseen circumstances included unusual traffic jams until that next 'convenient point' if that happens to be his home garage with another bus going to the same destination close behind then that has to happen. If that driver would have carried on and had an accident both the driver himself and the company would be responsible.
Coventry Road closed at Bordesley Station, causing chaos on Coventry Road, Stratford Road and Warwick Road services.
Quote from: Eric Shaw on February 24, 2015, 08:16:58 PM
Coventry Road closed at Bordesley Station, causing chaos on Coventry Road, Stratford Road and Warwick Road services.
That explains the part of the radio conversation I overheard, had a feeling that (Coventry Road off High Street Deritend) was what was being referred to.
Also explains the 'rat-runnings' through Sparkbrook, loads of cars and lorries turning off Stratford Road onto Henley Street, as well as cars coming out of Kyotts Lake Road.
7025 & 2113 were running together on 71 to Solihull around 10:30 seen at the bottom of my road.
9s were coming in trios and quartets earlier
Quote from: the trainbasher on February 27, 2015, 07:29:47 PM
9s were coming in trios and quartets earlier
There was a group of 4 WN59's in convoy about 15:40 on Lichfield Rd
Quote from: Tony on February 24, 2015, 08:02:45 PM
Quote from: Gareth on February 24, 2015, 07:43:05 PM
Being the families resident bus fan, it's usually me who gets texts from my sister about her bus journeys.
Tonight after being approx 20mins late, her 58 then got held up for another approx 20minutes in heavy traffic around Digbeth. Obviously with rush hour traffic and roadworks, these things can happen, but it seems her driver then told everyone to get off and board the already crowded 58 that was due after him. It seems it was his time to finish, or driving hours were up/ something similar.
I'm waiting to hear from her where this happened. Do NX have a plan in place for if and when this happens? Are there spare drivers who could have maybe taken over at Adderley Street if a drivers hours are up due to late running?
Interested to hear your thoughts @Tony
Drivers hours are a legal requirement. In the evening peak do you really think NX could have several hundred drivers on standby just in case?. As I have posted in another thread almost every AG, BC(Garrison Lane around to Bristol Road), BY & YW bus was running up to an hour late. If a driver is close to the end of a 5h30min portion or an 8h30min straight through duty it is one of those unfortunate things that he has to stop driving at the next 'convenient point' he is allowed to exceed those limits due to unforseen circumstances included unusual traffic jams until that next 'convenient point' if that happens to be his home garage with another bus going to the same destination close behind then that has to happen. If that driver would have carried on and had an accident both the driver himself and the company would be responsible.
Tony, can you please clarify my confusion. My understanding is that a driver can only drive for 5 h 30 mins without a break of at least 30 or 45 minutes. If this is the case how can a driver do a 8h 30 min straight through duty?
Quote from: fleetline6477 on February 27, 2015, 08:18:10 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 24, 2015, 08:02:45 PM
Quote from: Gareth on February 24, 2015, 07:43:05 PM
Being the families resident bus fan, it's usually me who gets texts from my sister about her bus journeys.
Tonight after being approx 20mins late, her 58 then got held up for another approx 20minutes in heavy traffic around Digbeth. Obviously with rush hour traffic and roadworks, these things can happen, but it seems her driver then told everyone to get off and board the already crowded 58 that was due after him. It seems it was his time to finish, or driving hours were up/ something similar.
I'm waiting to hear from her where this happened. Do NX have a plan in place for if and when this happens? Are there spare drivers who could have maybe taken over at Adderley Street if a drivers hours are up due to late running?
Interested to hear your thoughts @Tony
Drivers hours are a legal requirement. In the evening peak do you really think NX could have several hundred drivers on standby just in case?. As I have posted in another thread almost every AG, BC(Garrison Lane around to Bristol Road), BY & YW bus was running up to an hour late. If a driver is close to the end of a 5h30min portion or an 8h30min straight through duty it is one of those unfortunate things that he has to stop driving at the next 'convenient point' he is allowed to exceed those limits due to unforseen circumstances included unusual traffic jams until that next 'convenient point' if that happens to be his home garage with another bus going to the same destination close behind then that has to happen. If that driver would have carried on and had an accident both the driver himself and the company would be responsible.
Tony, can you please clarify my confusion. My understanding is that a driver can only drive for 5 h 30 mins without a break of at least 30 or 45 minutes. If this is the case how can a driver do a 8h 30 min straight through duty?
There are two ways the break can be worked out with Domestic Regs. Either a full 30 minutes must be taken after 5h30 driving, or alternatively within an 8h30 minute duty breaks totalling 45 minutes must be taken (E.g. 3 x 15 minutes - although in theory it can be 45 x 1 minute).
Quote from: notepanel on February 27, 2015, 09:01:29 PM
Quote from: fleetline6477 on February 27, 2015, 08:18:10 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 24, 2015, 08:02:45 PM
Quote from: Gareth on February 24, 2015, 07:43:05 PM
Being the families resident bus fan, it's usually me who gets texts from my sister about her bus journeys.
Tonight after being approx 20mins late, her 58 then got held up for another approx 20minutes in heavy traffic around Digbeth. Obviously with rush hour traffic and roadworks, these things can happen, but it seems her driver then told everyone to get off and board the already crowded 58 that was due after him. It seems it was his time to finish, or driving hours were up/ something similar.
I'm waiting to hear from her where this happened. Do NX have a plan in place for if and when this happens? Are there spare drivers who could have maybe taken over at Adderley Street if a drivers hours are up due to late running?
Interested to hear your thoughts @Tony
Drivers hours are a legal requirement. In the evening peak do you really think NX could have several hundred drivers on standby just in case?. As I have posted in another thread almost every AG, BC(Garrison Lane around to Bristol Road), BY & YW bus was running up to an hour late. If a driver is close to the end of a 5h30min portion or an 8h30min straight through duty it is one of those unfortunate things that he has to stop driving at the next 'convenient point' he is allowed to exceed those limits due to unforseen circumstances included unusual traffic jams until that next 'convenient point' if that happens to be his home garage with another bus going to the same destination close behind then that has to happen. If that driver would have carried on and had an accident both the driver himself and the company would be responsible.
Tony, can you please clarify my confusion. My understanding is that a driver can only drive for 5 h 30 mins without a break of at least 30 or 45 minutes. If this is the case how can a driver do a 8h 30 min straight through duty?
There are two ways the break can be worked out with Domestic Regs. Either a full 30 minutes must be taken after 5h30 driving, or alternatively within an 8h30 minute duty breaks totalling 45 minutes must be taken (E.g. 3 x 15 minutes - although in theory it can be 45 x 1 minute).
Oh? They still do straight through duties? I was understanding from when I was at NX they said straight throughs were now illegal!!
Does driving a bus empty to or from a garage have to be done within the drivers hours??
Quote from: Matt on February 27, 2015, 09:50:47 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on February 27, 2015, 09:49:20 PM
Does driving a bus empty to or from a garage have to be done within the drivers hours??
Yes
When I move empty vehicles around the country if it is over 50km that has to be done under EU hours and breaks.
141 and 241 departed halesowen at 13:23 towards merry hill, which means the 241 is 20 down
The 98's were running about 15 minutes late around 1.00 today heading towards Birmingham.
2137 & 2141 running together on BC58 towards Solihull seen by Land Rover, Lode Lane around 08:10/08:15 while aboard Sunny Travel V564JBH on 71E (Solihull Bound).
4948 & 4913 running together on BC957 towards Birmingham seen in Solihull around 08:20/08:25.
Fun and games on the 7 today. 6 out of the 7 daytime buses were stuck either side of an RTC at the Witton Road/Mansfield Road junction. 3 in either direction, for over an hour around midday. The buses from City were turned around first, then the 3 of us heading towards City were then turned around by reversing into a side road. By the time I got into Livery Street, 1.10 down, I was then told to leave 5 minutes early by AVL (therefore completely missing a round trip), but by the time I got to the Crossways, I was 10 down with the next 7 behind. I was then turned around there and was finally back on time then for relief. Plus I was bursting to go too!
Also, 761 on the 68 (it was on the A, stuck in front of me) was stuck too so there was no service at all on there until it was turned around
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/woman-trapped-aston-two-car-collision-8751110#rlabs=1
1860 and a B7RLE were running together through Wednesfield on the 89 towards Wolverhampton about 18:25 this evening
Birchfield road services seem like they're all screwed at the moment. Got into town 18:15 from work to find the X56 only just loading, and the queues on all 3 stops seemed horrendous so presumably hadn't been anything for a while
Quote from: Kevin on March 03, 2015, 06:23:03 PM
Birchfield road services seem like they're all screwed at the moment. Got into town 18:15 from work to find the X56 only just loading, and the queues on all 3 stops seemed horrendous so presumably hadn't been anything for a while
It was taking 51 & X51s an hour to get from Walsall to The Scott Arms, no idea why at the moment, 33s weren't too bad
222 at dudley 1725 - 1750
Quote from: Tony on March 03, 2015, 06:48:34 PM
Quote from: Kevin on March 03, 2015, 06:23:03 PM
Birchfield road services seem like they're all screwed at the moment. Got into town 18:15 from work to find the X56 only just loading, and the queues on all 3 stops seemed horrendous so presumably hadn't been anything for a while
It was taking 51 & X51s an hour to get from Walsall to The Scott Arms, no idea why at the moment, 33s weren't too bad
M6 queues, Highway agency are jokers. Can't wait for them to shut Jct 5 slip road grrrrrr.
There are two 80's currently in Cape Hill
First one being over 15 - 20mins late
and the second one on time but directly behind the late one
3 18s currently in cotteridge together going towards Bartley Green.
3 126s, 4586, 4561, and a distant 126E Birmingham bound in Dudley atm.
I was 30 minutes late on the 65s this evening. Left City on time at 2.45pm, and jut lost it from there. Missed my second inbound trip after getting adjusted, but still left City at 5.10pm, instead at 5pm. Managed to catch up on my last trip so still managed to get off on time!
17:40 28 from Wolverhampton didn't depart till 18:04 (29 minutes late)
The 18:10 departure was coming into Wolverhampton (Wednesfield Rd Railway Bridge) shortly before 18:40 so would have been at least 30 minutes down when it pulled into Bus Station.
Quote from: Nathan on March 04, 2015, 07:24:18 PM
17:40 28 from Wolverhampton didn't depart till 18:04 (29 minutes late)
The 18:10 departure was coming into Wolverhampton (Wednesfield Rd Railway Bridge) shortly before 18:40 so would have been at least 30 minutes down when it pulled into Bus Station.
@Nathan That particular departure didn't reach Willenhall on it's earlier trip until 1802 (approx. 12 mins late), so no surprise it was that late, if it was 846
Quote from: Matt on March 04, 2015, 07:04:18 PM
Two 244s to Hayley Green in convoy in Halesowen just now (1630 & 1661), my bet is 1630 is late as its being driven foot to the floor!
Buffery Road was closed for 30 minutes earlier due to an RTC which probably explains this
Quote from: Tony on March 04, 2015, 07:36:41 PM
Quote from: Matt on March 04, 2015, 07:04:18 PM
Two 244s to Hayley Green in convoy in Halesowen just now (1630 & 1661), my bet is 1630 is late as its being driven foot to the floor!
Buffery Road was closed for 30 minutes earlier due to an RTC which probably explains this
Also chaos on The Thorns earlier due to an RTC!
Quote from: Matt on March 04, 2015, 07:04:18 PM
Two 244s to Hayley Green in convoy in Halesowen just now (1630 & 1661), my bet is 1630 is late as its being driven foot to the floor!
I hope not foot to the floor, knowing some of the Mercs it could be foot through the floor!! :) :)
West Bromwich Bus Station was at a complete standstill earlier for over an hour.
@979 that explains why the 4Ms are missing then
There was 7 50s going along Kings Heath high street
3 65s in a row at Cuckoo Road around 5.45pm heading out of City, with a fourth a few minutes behind. I was running late again this evening too, with the Air Ambulance landing losing me 10 minutes and School chucking out time, even with missing a trip into City again
@Matt there was one decker parked up and one approaching merry hill 5 minutes ago (saw it while on 30807)
Just on 807 with another 99 bus in front of us at the stag.
You don't get anything for a pair, not in this game!!
16th March
4945 & 4909 running together on 957 to Solihull seen by Lode Lane, Land Rover at 09:39.
17th March
4908/4910/4909 running together on 957 to Birmingham seen at Yardley Swan at 09:17.
19th March
2113 & 2115 running together on 71 to Solihull seen at The Wheatsheaf around 11:20-11:30
1633 241 Merry Hill to Dudley FTO. Nice half hour gap was left in the combined 141/241 Section with 4196/4349 running as close to time as possible On their 141 trips
Anyone know why the 241 disappeared?
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 19, 2015, 05:26:53 PM
1633 241 Merry Hill to Dudley FTO. Nice half hour gap was left in the combined 141/241 Section with 4196/4349 running as close to time as possible On their 141 trips
Anyone know why the 241 disappeared?
A Three car RTC on the A38(M) at around 14:30 manage to screw half of Birmingham up again!
1813 244 to Hayley Green from Halesowen showing on real time as expected 1826. Any idea?
Quote from: Tony on March 19, 2015, 06:04:20 PM
A Three car RTC on the A38(M) at around 14:30 manage to screw half of Birmingham up again!
How does the Distressway affect a route out of merry hill? And how come the preceding 141 and the one 15 behind be on time?
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 19, 2015, 06:09:14 PM
1813 244 showing on real time as expected 1826. Any idea?
How does the Distressway affect a route out of merry hill? And how come the preceding 141 and the one 15 behind be on time?
Don't the 141 and 241 change in merry hill, so therefore if the 141 gets stuck It then takes a knock on effect for the following 241. Whereas the 241 just goes merry hill to dudley but then changes in merry hill for the 141
I came home from town on 4819 on the 9, the driver was on the radio saying he was 35 minutes late at Great Charles Street. It took about 30 minutes to get from Snow Hill to top of Broad Street, so an accident on the Expressway causes problems in the City Centre.
Spandau ballet were performing at the icc last nite so west side of brum had thousands of extra cars to deal with, I myself was running 30 mins late on the 128/129 which I don't think is bad considering past experiences.
Quote from: 2900 on March 20, 2015, 10:37:11 AM
Spandau ballet were performing at the icc last nite so west side of brum had thousands of extra cars to deal with, I myself was running 30 mins late on the 128/129 which I don't think is bad considering past experiences.
I don't know which is worse...your 128/9 running late due to the traffic or Spandau Ballet being allowed to perform at the ICC/NIA complex! :)
It was most certainly not gold last nite
So the traffic wasnt going 'Round and Round ' last night then!
West Bromwich has had another of its complete seizures again today.
Lots of buses stuck in the bus station
Two 53's together in Old Hill this afternoon.
1925 141 Halesowen to merry hill not showing on real time.
Edit - ARRIVED Halesowen 1942, with the 241 behind it. Any reason?
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 20, 2015, 07:24:28 PM
1925 141 Halesowen to merry hill not showing on real time.
Edit - ARRIVED Halesowen 1942, with the 241 behind it. Any reason?
Of course there is a reason! See
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=923394437711026&set=a.137343589649452.34871.100001214362052&type=1&theater¬if_t=photo_reply
If that link works
Expressway gridlocked for the afternoon and even at 7.15pm last night in both directions. I took over around 10 minutes late on a 914 around 5pm, and it took me until my last 907 at 10.30 from Sutton to get back on time. Running over 20 minutes late until then on 907/914s >:(
Great Charles St A38 was still gridlocked at 2100hrs fortunately for me the weekend diversion comes into force after 2000hrs other wise instead of running 10-12 mins late it would have been 30-40 minutes trying to get around paradise circus.
1546 WN529 (4602) departed Wolverhampton at 1558, as the driver failed to show up until 1555, leaving a long line of rather unhappy people waiting for the driver.
EDIT
Arrived in Willenhall at 1610
It's probably fair to say most services to and from Birmingham city centre have been a nightmare this evening.
Standing on the Stratford Road in Sparkbrook, the NXWM app was showing three 2s all due.
When the 31 I was on got to Acocks Green, there was another one just behind. And another one went past as I got home.
Quote from: Stu on March 23, 2015, 06:59:47 PM
It's probably fair to say most services to and from Birmingham city centre have been a nightmare this evening.
I was expecting that to be the case having heard the Expressway was closed (ergo, all possible routes from work would be rammed) but...
66 into Brum was spot on time 17:54, even faring better than normal crossing the ring road by Aston Uni, got food, got a Sutton bus (didn't even pay attention which number), along the wide open and free flowing expressway not really pushing as if he was late or anything. Almost as if nothing had happened.
Quote from: Kevin on March 23, 2015, 07:20:41 PM
I was expecting that to be the case having heard the Expressway was closed (ergo, all possible routes from work would be rammed) but...
66 into Brum was spot on time 17:54, even faring better than normal crossing the ring road by Aston Uni, got food, got a Sutton bus (didn't even pay attention which number), along the wide open and free flowing expressway not really pushing as if he was late or anything. Almost as if nothing had happened.
The Expressway accident screwed up the complete city centre and middle Ring Road. The young lady from Amey and myself in the UTC decided that when the Expressway reopened the best way to cure the City Centre was when the Expressway reopened at 15:30 was to ask the police to delay opening the slip road from Park Circus as long as possible so that all traffic coming out the city got a completely clear run along the expressway straight to Erdington or the M6. The police were able to do this for 20 minutes. This worked brilliantly and cleared the whole city centre of traffic in those 20 minutes meaning the expressway and tunnels through the city were a lot clearer than normal at 16:00 so services heading north actually ran quite well once AVL had got the buses in the correct place.
Unfortunately the queue around the Middle Ring road stretched back past Camp Hill and there was nothing she could do to help get this moving faster. With ignorant motorists blocking three main roundabouts so Garrison Circus (97), Bordesley Circus (Coventry Road) & Camp Hill (AG & YW services) buses couldn't get across in or out of city causing the delays mentioned
Quote from: Matt on March 24, 2015, 07:05:15 PM
The 18:43 241 from Halesowen seemed to leave Halesowen dead on time, but the real time said there was another 15 minutes behind. So was that one 45 minutes late, or 15 late and the one that left at 18:43 30 late?
Wrong destination display possibly?
6102 & 6106 run togeher at halesowen at 12.40
Quote from: jack4325 on March 25, 2015, 12:42:00 PM
6102 & 6106 run togeher at halesowen at 12.40
A bus running 6 minutes late, that is how late 6106 was, is not a VERY late running service
Quote from: jack4325 on March 25, 2015, 12:42:00 PM
6102 & 6106 run togeher at halesowen at 12.40
Most frequent services have bunching! The 9 is no different
What on earth is going on in the city centre this evening? Broad St into city is horrendous, 29E to Weoley Castle and 24E to Punch Bowl (normally only seen at times of heavy snow) heading out of town.
North Birmingham completely screwed again this afternoon. Another accident on the Expressway around 2.30pm brought the A38 to a standstill, with out of City Sutton buses using Lichfield Road, therefore with extra traffic on Dartmouth Circus/Thomas Street delaying the 65/7s. It took me over 30 minutes on a 65 to get from City to Aston Cross, then missed my last trip (was due to finish at 17.36, I only got to Perry Common around 5.25pm).
Then getting from City back to Perry Barr took 45 minutes on a 997, the A34 underpasses were gridlocked too at 6pm
I just came off 50 mins late, was 1hr 10 down at one stage. There was temporRy lights by boats head stuck on red
Quote from: BU07 LGO on March 26, 2015, 08:59:02 PM
I just came off 50 mins late, was 1hr 10 down at one stage. There was temporRy lights by boats head stuck on red
Which Route?
I did 934 to town, 935E to George Frederick, back to town and 936 . The 935e was what took the time I was an hour and 10 mins down at one point
Most services using Digbeth and Markets area this afternoon were very late running due to 4824 (on 16 I presume) breaking down and taking blocking up 2 lanes. >:(
Quote from: Matt on March 29, 2015, 12:49:03 PM
Think the 12:38 x96 from Stour has fallen through a wormhole it has been "Due" for ages
Running spot on time, 2095 now at Merry Hill
Quote from: Matt on March 29, 2015, 12:53:15 PM
Missed out Stourbridge then
Arrived Stourbridge Bus Station 12:33, departed 12:37
244 hasn't turned up at netherton yet. any reason?
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 29, 2015, 06:23:28 PM
244 hasn't turned up at netherton yet. any reason?
2102 is currently running 17 minutes late on the 244.
Quote from: Tony on March 29, 2015, 06:25:29 PM
2102 is currently running 17 minutes late on the 244.
Do you know why it's late?
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 29, 2015, 06:27:43 PM
Do you know why it's late?
The tracking system might be good, but.. no, sorry
Forgot to mention today at 11:40 there were two omnilinks on the 4m in meery hill, one was 1860, not sure on other one, any reasons for delay?
yes they are putting ramps in by the pub at merry hill
Quote from: Rhys S on March 30, 2015, 07:18:30 PM
yes they are putting ramps in by the pub at merry hill
That does not cause a 30 minute delay, Ive been up today and I was stuck in traffic for about 5 minutes, maybe less
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 30, 2015, 07:20:33 PM
That does not cause a 30 minute delay, Ive been up today and I was stuck in traffic for about 5 minutes, maybe less
oh ok didnt now how severe it was
Quote from: Rhys S on March 30, 2015, 07:21:57 PM
oh ok didnt now how severe it was
Well if two 4M's where at M hill bus station i'd imagine 25-30 mins!
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 30, 2015, 07:17:05 PM
Forgot to mention today at 11:40 there were two omnilinks on the 4m in meery hill, one was 1860, not sure on other one, any reasons for delay?
Sandwell Council managed to get the lights on Birchley Roundabout doing silly things causing delays of up to an hour on the 50 minutes on the 126 as well as screwing the 4 up.
1894 on the 08:03 4H left Halesowen time and was 1hour 3 late when it arrived in Oldbury as an example of what happened this morning
Roadworks on the thorns going to lye cross caused traffic to back up in merry hill affecting all services using that area
Quote from: karl724223 on March 30, 2015, 09:16:46 PM
Roadworks on the thorns going to lye cross caused traffic to back up in merry hill affecting all services using that area
@karl724223 Got stuck in it myself today, surely they could have done it at night. Yes the Thorns will be clearer in the mornings during the Easter break, but come mid morning it starts to get busier because everyone is heading to Merry Hell!
It's off peak road works so the road got opened up fully later on
Quote from: karl724223 on March 30, 2015, 09:21:09 PM
It's off peak road works so the road got opened up fully later on
Problem is that during the holidays, off peak becomes peak and vice versa. Dudley Council spending there money before the end of the financial year!
Yes you got it in one
It's all your hard earned council tax at work :)
244 13:36 to loop arrived at 13:51, so didn't bother doing the loop
Quote from: Matt on April 02, 2015, 09:37:57 PM
9 to Birmingham running 15 late, I know 15 is not much but it's very unusual for them to run late out of Stourbridge, usually out of city where they run late...surprised he hasn't been adjusted
Was on 6111 from Quinton yesterday about half 7, driver turfed us all out just past Bearwood when there was another (6101 I believe) just behind
What was up with the 1 earlier? There were two 1Es following each other when I got to Cannon Hill Park, and an hour or so later (when I left the park) they were still following each other?
The Stratford Road through Sparkbrook looked a bit of a nightmare earlier. (Not much of a change from the norm I know!)
With part of Walford Road closed due to the mosque collapsing last night, somebody thought it would be a good idea to close the junction with Warwick Road this evening to finally start installing new traffic lights.
Took seemingly ages for the 31 I was on to get down and across the Highgate Road junction, just because other motorists didn't seem to know what was going on, and kept switching lanes to try and beat the queues of traffic.
1776 left Wolverhampton Bus Station at 11:34. This would have been the 11:05 departure so therefore 29 mins late.
Quote from: Nathan on April 12, 2015, 12:05:03 PM
1776 left Wolverhampton Bus Station at 11:34. This would have been the 11:05 departure so therefore 29 mins late.
Something going on in Pelsall. He left Walsall on time, got to Rushall on time, but was 30 late past the fingerpost in Pelsall. he last just lost another 10 minutes in Pelsall going back as well
4301 currently running nearly half hour late on the last 77 from Sutton, and the driver doesn't seem all to keen on reducing that
Quote from: Kevin on April 22, 2015, 07:43:23 PM
4301 currently running nearly half hour late on the last 77 from Sutton, and the driver doesn't seem all to keen on reducing that
Sutton was closed fron odeon cinema and the patade from 7pm
Quote from: Kevin on April 22, 2015, 07:43:23 PMand the driver doesn't seem all to keen on reducing that
Better than driving dangerously and causing a crash
Quote from: BU07 LGO on April 23, 2015, 09:13:02 AM
Better than driving dangerously and causing a crash
Valid.
Perhaps should have rephrased, driver was driving particularly slow
Well my last day on the Commons certainly was eventful. Stuck on Alma Street for around 45 minutes this afternoon along with an OmniLink and a 424, due to another bus hitting and getting stuck on a car, therefore blocking all of the road. Absolutely terrible how people park on Alma Street, something should seriously be done about it.
By the time I had got clear, I had to finish service in City rather than Perry Common and go back to garage because of being so late. Others were also running late too
4328 working the 1729 WA41 off Cornwall Gate actually departed Cornwall Gate at 1743, 14 minutes down, with no Real Time tracking, as the next bus at 1738 was the (late, according to the tracking, at least) 1744 WN28, even though 4328 arrived 5 minutes later
Anyone know why the tracking wasn't working on 4328?
Quote from: John on April 23, 2015, 07:21:59 PM
Well my last day on the Commons certainly was eventful. Stuck on Alma Street for around 45 minutes this afternoon along with an OmniLink and a 424, due to another bus hitting and getting stuck on a car, therefore blocking all of the road. Absolutely terrible how people park on Alma Street, something should seriously be done about it.
By the time I had got clear, I had to finish service in City rather than Perry Common and go back to garage because of being so late. Others were also running late too
Me and two other buses was stuck for 15 minutes the other day on Broad meadow in Aldridge, its madness at school time
934E/935A just passed through Kingstanding Circle together - making the 935A 35mins late ?
Quote from: Nathan4775 on April 26, 2015, 06:10:56 PM
934E/935A just passed through Kingstanding Circle together - making the 935A 35mins late ?
I was on those earlier, seemed to be running smoothly. I know the times on the 935a are tight though
Somethings up with the Walsall services atm, 17:24 X51 was a no show, and did notice a particular lack of 51s, 93x or 997
4769 on WA69 followed by 4332 moments later in Heath Town about 17:25 towards Wolverhampton this afternoon.
For anyone who isn't aware of the frequency o WA69, its every 30 minutes!
What happened to the South side of the City? (New St etc) There's tweets about it @nxwestmidlands
And I should add I was waiting for a Bristol Road service circa 1930~ for about 1 hour near Priory.
@Tony
7022 & 2120 running together on 71 towards Solihull seen on Sheaf Lane by Mardon Road at 09:58
The 09.32 48 from WB (4234) is running 30 minutes late, just been overtaken by the 10.02 (4273) on Hurst Rd which is on time
Quote from: uniquicity on April 29, 2015, 10:19:21 AM
The 09.32 48 from WB (4234) is running 30 minutes late, just been overtaken by the 10.02 (4273) on Hurst Rd which is on time
4234 is now a 48E to Weoley Castle
Quote from: Liverpool Street on April 28, 2015, 12:58:00 AM
What happened to the South side of the City? (New St etc) There's tweets about it @nxwestmidlands
And I should add I was waiting for a Bristol Road service circa 1930~ for about 1 hour near Priory.
@Tony
Any idea what happened that night
@Tony Bristol Rd services were up to an hour late and some passengers were taking taxis...
The Air Ambulance messed up our side of town at 5pm this afternoon (I know it can't be helped). Took over on time at the Fire Station at 17.01. By the time I had got round the Snow Hill diversion and back round to the Square Peg to load I was 20 minutes late on a 902. I was waiting at the side of a 98 and X64 for 10 minutes, I guess waiting for backed up traffic to be able to move once the AA had taken off until I could get to stand and load. It landed again at 6pm too
Left Hill Hook on time, then fun and games in Sutton as the Council are resurfacing Victoria Road, so Mill Street was closed (with no diversion on the VCR). So I tried to enter the Parade the way the 907 enters by using Coleshill Street, looping round the town, but you still couldn't get onto the Parade that way, so back up Mill Street and Coleshill Street again in all the traffic >:(
4762 on the 80 is running around 25-30 mins late to West Bromwich and has been overtaken by the 80 that was supposed to be 15 mins behind this one
Quote from: Matt on May 02, 2015, 10:26:44 AM
Five 9s in a row...accident in lye causing chaos
Any ideas what the diversion was because the road was closed as well?
Quote from: X94 on May 02, 2015, 11:17:16 AM
Any ideas what the diversion was because the road was closed as well?
Bromley Street, Stourvale Road and Hayes Lane for city bound 9s, suspect that it might be the same for Stourbridge bound services.
I saw 3 9s together going through Colley Gate at 10:10 this morning going towards City, amazing for a Saturday morning.
Two 99's are currently following each other up Bull St toward Square Peg.
Quote from: Matt on May 05, 2015, 06:39:44 PM
4H left Halesowen at 18:29 (due at 05)
Sure it weren't running early?
Quote from: Matt on May 05, 2015, 06:48:09 PM
No, it's not Diamond! The next one left a few mins later
Diamond only leave early if there is another bus that wants the stand. As NX like to hoard halesowen bus station stands, causing major congestion. I believe they are only allowed 3 minutes on a stand before having to depart
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 05, 2015, 06:59:06 PM
Diamond only leave early if there is another bus that wants the stand. As NX like to hoard halesowen bus station stands, causing major congestion. I believe they are only allowed 3 minutes on a stand before having to depart
You have defeated your own argument there! If Diamond are on the stand but are forced to leave early, then it is that bus that is hogging the stand as that bus obviously managed to get onto an empty stand! And if that bus leaves 3 or more minutes early then it was obviously on the stand more than 3 minutes before departure<
Quote from: Tony on May 05, 2015, 07:02:43 PM
You have defeated your own argument there! If Diamond are on the stand but are forced to leave early, then it is that bus that is hogging the stand as that bus obviously managed to get onto an empty stand! And if that bus leaves 3 or more minutes early then it was obviously on the stand more than 3 minutes before departure<
Ok to put into context:
The 241 arrived at 09 one day last week, but was not due to leave till 14 past. And the 4H came down at 11 past and waited for a minute before pulling round onto the 9 stand. The 9 was then behind and caused a major back log as he was waiting to get on the stand that the 4H was currently loading for. This happens lots of times with different operators picking up from different stands.
I am by no means saying diamond are clean, but matt was the one having the dig to start with.
I also understand that halesowen bus station is not fit for the purpose.
Why I said that is because the 4H sometimes goes onto stand early due to the lack of layover spaces, which then causes a 99 to actually pull slightly in front of the 4H and get the passengers to walk in front of the 4H to load onto the 99.
Just saying
12.40pm - There was 3 82s with an 87 within a few minutes on The Priory Queensway
1783 on 4H is running 15 minutes late
Just waited 25 minutes for a 59! Not good for a service supposed to be every 5 mins.
Saw a 255E Womborne Green Lane around half 3 at merry hill
Spotted last week on Wednesday I think about 5.30 there were 2 X64's running together in Bartley Green towards to Woodgate terminus.
5 50s at Poplar Road
Washwood Heath Road was mad this morning. I was heading into City around half 8, and within 5 minutes, I had passed 5 94s all stuck in traffic.
Also for the whole of my last trip, I was in a trio of 94s (A 55 and 70 joined in from the Fox inwards to City too!)
Midday, there was 2 54s together in One Stop too
2 222s virtually together on Russell's Hall Road about 6 mins ago
Dudley road services have gone completely to pot for the last two days short workings galore, major water works by city hospital, maines have been leaking for ages but they decide to repair at the same time as complete closure of summer row is enforced genius I say. Dudley rd by Heath St down to one lane chaos.
4 green leaves on the 1 Dudley bound noted on Pipers Row together approx 1505
The 07:18 76 to Solihull Station from Kings Heath came 1 minute after the arrival of the next 76 (07:31) to the same destination.
Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on May 15, 2015, 10:55:52 PM
The 07:18 76 to Solihull Station from Kings Heath came 1 minute after the arrival of the next 76 (07:31) to the same destination.
No it didn't! The 07:18 departure was 4335 and it left at 07:19
826 and 828 are playing follow the leader
Possibly not a very late running service 6108 on the 9 leaving Colmore Row at 1715 managed to be overtaken by at least 2 other Hagley Rd buses as driver drove at more or less walking pace all the way.
That may not necessarily have been his fault - I seem to remember if the AdBlue levels on the E400s were low, then the bus's speed was restricted. I assume the MMCs have AdBlue solution?
4844 was nearly 20 minutes late going into town due to traffic on Aldridge Road. Driver managed to make 5 minutes when he got back to Hawthorn Road. Although if he continued to be over 10 minutes late, he would run out of hours (Duty 1 on the 33 this was). Driver was a friend of mine by the way.
844 on WN28 should have left bus station at 16.05 left at 16.39
Real Time info at Birmingham Aiport reads:
900- Birmingham 25 mins (This will be 6701)
900-Birmingham 34 mins
Quote from: Matt on May 25, 2015, 02:24:55 PM
Yup, just passed 6701 leaving cov as I was coming in on 4944.
Only 4944, 6701 & 6704 are tracking
3 out the 4 late night 59's running within 5 mins of each other (4559 and 4608 about 2 mins apart with 4570 about 3 mins behind)
Not very late but late non the less, the 10:55 81 to Merry Hill, from Roseville has left Roseville at 11:10, so 15 down on a half hour frequency route!
EDIT: And now the bus due at 11:25 to Merry Hill from Roseville has felt Roseville at 11:44, so this time 19 Mins down. Is there an explanation to this?
Both 297s are running late.
The one I've had to catch because of the 141 Russells Hall doing a disappearing act is 15 down and it's opposite one was 7 down...
There been a crash in birmingham st Charles street http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/birmingham-city-centre-crash-trapped-9375468
I was on 1589 on the 49 WB to Bearwood today. Long delay in Spon Lane, then we were all (20 or so) chucked off in Langley, I think it was, with no apology. 'This bus is stopping here because it's late' was all we got, and no other 49s in sight. Someone said another 49 was shown in 15 minutes time on his app, but that could have been turned back too. Not good enough!
Every thing up brum was late or stuck in road closures due to bad Rta great Charles street
Quote from: karl724223 on June 02, 2015, 07:00:53 PM
Every thing up brum was late or stuck in road closures due to bad Rta great Charles street
Yeah, I had a day back on the 7s and they were chaos all day, with the M6 shut this morning, and that crash this afternoon (I was diverted via Snow Hill Queensway on one trip). I was adjusted to miss my last trip into City (16.30 from the Common, left 10 late). Left on time from City at 17.05, but then 15 minutes late getting to relief (There were also 3 following each other most of the afternoon too)
Because of the water incident in West Bromwich
I got on the 80 at 5:05 from West Bromwich and it's now 5:48 and I'm only by the Red Cow pub in Smethwick
Really really late
I know it's not VERY late, but this morning I waited 15 minutes for a 37 from Acocks Green to Birmingham, and as the queue grew at my stop, I hoped and prayed for a double-deck to turn up... but got an OmniLink instead. As the service is normally every 5 mins, you can only imagine the crowds that had built up at the stops further along the route towards Birmingham, and the bus soon got very packed, not helped by the driver letting three buggies on!
To be fair, this rarely happens, and the worst comments I heard from fellow passengers were 'ooh the bus is a bit full this morning' ;D
This morning 3 74 came at the same time the I got was was 4952 and 4964/5 and I forgot the last one all around 11 am
Tyburn rd traffic causing problems on the 66 atm, 1906 was about half hour late at Star City heading to town. Presumably the 67 is having similar issues
823 running 15 down on 244 left Halesowen 15:31
Two 69's came into Wolverhampton Bus Station about 16:30.
4330 left Wolverhampton on the 40 as 1771 entered the station.
Either 1704 or 1677 must be delayed as both are in merry hill on 276 Dudley
1677 was still there with passengers on at 1750
Leaving work in Nechells the live times app was showing two 66s due, just missed the one (7033) which turns out was only slightly late, and only just caught the one behind (1842), by the time we got to town he was half hour late and meant to be in Erdington already so got on the radio and went NIS to try catch some time up.
The next two at the time were showing on the app as being 50 and 52 mins away, which is usual when I'm leaving work.
Such a hopeless service, that and it's only every half hour when workers want to use it no wonder it's losing custom
Also, two full 997s to Walsall left Bull st at 18:26
4 Enviro 400s, 2 on the 82, 2 on the 87 heading down Newhall Street in convoy out of city just now.
Meanwhile I'm going nowhere fast on 5516 around Edmund Street and Margaret Street on the 22.
Not sure if it's any particular incident or the debacle that is Birmingham city centre at the moment given all the roadworks.
Quote from: Mike K on June 05, 2015, 07:02:59 PM
4 Enviro 400s, 2 on the 82, 2 on the 87 heading down Newhall Street in convoy out of city just now.
Meanwhile I'm going nowhere fast on 5516 around Edmund Street and Margaret Street on the 22.
Not sure if it's any particular incident or the debacle that is Birmingham city centre at the moment given all the roadworks.
leftovers from the lorry that broke down on the M6 at lunchtime blocking 3 lanes and wasn't moved until just before 4pm
Quote from: Matt on June 05, 2015, 06:47:08 PM
Going to wollaston having gone to dudley and back??......
No
Quote from: Tony on June 05, 2015, 07:10:06 PM
leftovers from the lorry that broke down on the M6 at lunchtime blocking 3 lanes and wasn't moved until just before 4pm
Thanks Tony. It's taken me 22 mins to get from Colmore Row to the Town Hall on 5516. After several beers after work, and my need to use the toilet, it's going to be a long and painful journey home
Saw it from 1715 and when I was on the way home seen it still parked up
Quote from: Rhys S on June 05, 2015, 07:11:52 PM
No
Stange, because I have just put a track on 1677 and it shows it at Merry Hill as Matt say at 17:00. Shows it arriving in Dudley at 17:32. Leaving Dudley at 17:43, and at 17:50 was at Buffery Road, nowhere near Merry Hill
I've got a photo of it at merry hill at 17:32
Quote from: Rhys S on June 05, 2015, 07:26:59 PM
I've got a photo of it at merry hill at 17:32
Let's see it then, because the real 1677 was in Dudley at 17:32
Sutton and most North Birmingham services completely hopeless most of the afternoon and this evening. expressway like a car park for most of the afternoon, and still is now in both directions.
The Birchfield Road is OK now (it was'nt at lunchtime, various buses coming in together and adgustments) my 935 seems to be on time, but the 997s seem delayed still
I was almost an hour late getting to Hill Hook following the one that should have been 30 minutes behind mine on my last trip, managed to get it down to around 30 minutes to hand over to the late night driver, then there was still 3 of us coming into City together.
When I got to Stratford Road earlier (about 19:15), I checked on the NXWM app and it said 3 37s were due in 16mins. another in 20mins and another in 25mins.
Lucky for me there was a 31E due in 5mins.
One breakdown on the Aston Expressway and the whole road network round Birmingham is doomed!
Quote from: Stu on June 05, 2015, 07:54:47 PM
When I got to Stratford Road earlier (about 19:15), I checked on the NXWM app and it said 3 37s were due in 16mins. another in 20mins and another in 25mins.
Lucky for me there was a 31E due in 5mins.
One breakdown on the Aston Expressway and the whole road network round Birmingham is doomed!
Not even the Expressway, This was the M6 just before Junction 7
Quote from: Tony on June 05, 2015, 07:57:13 PM
Not even the Expressway, This was the M6 just before Junction 7
From looking at the travel news this evening, I think later on there was then another lorry breakdown - this time blocking access from the expressway to M6 North.
Quote from: notepanel on June 05, 2015, 08:15:27 PM
From looking at the travel news this evening, I think later on there was then another lorry breakdown - this time blocking access from the expressway to M6 North.
I've just seen elsewhere there was a broken down vehicle in St Chads Queensway tunnel a couple of hours ago, which has also no doubt contributed to the traffic chaos later this evening.
A trio of 900's 6703, 6705 and 6709 went into Pool Meadow in convoy at 7.30. Two then went straight out again Not in Service.
Some 900's are scheduled to run empty back to BC. As there are more arrivals than returning departures from Coventry in early evening.
Just heard over the radio that the Scott Arms lights are not working due to Great Barr and Kingstanding having a power cut this morning. I imagine thats fun for all services!
2 X96 Wrens Nest departed merry hill within a few of minutes of each other
(editedd to removed incorrect information)
5E to Pheasey left Sutton around 15 minutes ago
Quote from: the trainbasher on June 06, 2015, 12:56:27 PM
2 X96 Wrens Nest departed merry hill within a few of minutes of each other
4201 on the 141 departed merry hill 8 down too (1248 trip)
141 leaves at 50 and 20 ???
I stand corrected on that ... Still been looking at the old timetable .... I've edited my previous accordingly
Quote from: the trainbasher on June 06, 2015, 05:19:27 PM
I stand corrected on that ... Still been looking at the old timetable .... I've edited my previous accordingly
saw you at merry hill 1250 ish wonder who put wb on 4200?
And the 9/141 is still recovering slowly from it now!
1421 is 25 minutes late, should have done the 12:15 departure from Wolverhampton Bus Station but departed at 12:40.
1436 is 15 minutes late, should have done the 15:55 departure from Walsall Bus Station but departed at 16:10.
@P419 EJW 1421 still running late, should've done the 1735 41 ex Willenhall, hasn't reached terminus as of 1748!
What was up with the 37 this morning? I got to the stop a little later than normal, and there was already a large crowd waiting, then I checked the app...
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The 'due' bus left Acocks Green village at 8:30am with a full standing load, and further down the route there were large crowds at stops, and the driver, to quote Elton John, had to 'deny the passengers who want to get on'.
I'm only guessing here, but looking at some of the faces of people I recognise who seem to catch the bus at certain times, I reckon there had been at least a 20 minute gap.
Quote from: Stu on June 09, 2015, 06:17:02 PM
What was up with the 37 this morning? I got to the stop a little later than normal, and there was already a large crowd waiting, then I checked the app...
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The 'due' bus left Acocks Green village at 8:30am with a full standing load, and further down the route there were large crowds at stops, and the driver, to quote Elton John, had to 'deny the passengers who want to get on'.
I'm only guessing here, but looking at some of the faces of people I recognise who seem to catch the bus at certain times, I reckon there had been at least a 20 minute gap.
Don't know the actual reason, but Solihull ground to a halt for 30 minutes trapping lots of buses
Two 89's are in Oldbury both heading for Blackheath meaning one of them is late
Quote from: Tony on June 09, 2015, 06:20:44 PM
Don't know the actual reason, but Solihull ground to a halt for 30 minutes trapping lots of buses
Just like Carr's Lane/Albert Street area this morning. I was stuck on Moor Street for about 15 minutes around 7.15 this morning. A problem with a set of traffic lights AVL said.
Buses leaving Albert Street (Bristol Road Pershore Road, Stratford Road etc.) were stuck because buses (Birchfield Road, Suttons etc.) were queuing up Moor Street, and they could not swing out of Albert Street into the left lane on Moor Street
Quote from: John on June 09, 2015, 08:55:40 PM
Just like Carr's Lane/Albert Street area this morning. I was stuck on Moor Street for about 15 minutes around 7.15 this morning. A problem with a set of traffic lights AVL said.
Buses leaving Albert Street (Bristol Road Pershore Road, Stratford Road etc.) were stuck because buses (Birchfield Road, Suttons etc.) were queuing up Moor Street, and they could not swing out of Albert Street into the left lane on Moor Street
I wonder why no-one contacted Traffic light control room then?
I saw a few buses yesterday morning giving up on Albert Street completely and going up to the Square Peg to come back down Priory and round to Moor st.
Didn't look fun though, I just managed to see it in time and got off the X51 by Hotel La Tour. Christ knows which idiot allowed roadworks on Dale End when there's so much extra traffic using it at the moment
1436 is 40 minutes late. Should be departing Walsall Bus Station at 14:40 but we are at Chasetown, The Clock. I think the services are affected by the roadworks in Rushall.
Got off my 11C yesterday, looked back and I saw 5 11(s) ! 3 were full route workings while 2 were "E" workings. I waited a good deal for my bus as well. Such is the nightmare that is traffic !
Quote from: BusFan on June 12, 2015, 06:03:44 PM
Got off my 11C yesterday, looked back and I saw 5 11(s) ! 3 were full route workings while 2 were "E" workings. I waited a good deal for my bus as well. Such is the nightmare that is traffic !
This is an everyday occurrence lol,
On school days anyway.
Can
@Tony let me know what happened to the 17:20 WN82 off Dudley please, didn't turn up!
The pershore road stop is annoying when 3 buses try to squeeze on, they block carrs lane
1945 & 1951 following each other round the Number 1 route this afternoon. Wonder why NX could not turn one of them round? But then that would provide a better service.
1761 and 1893 on WA 69 are in Walsall Bus Station. Don't know which one is late.
Not NX, but 3 Arriva 110s have just arrived in Tamworth together
And another 2 now. Heard something about 4 way temporary traffic light holding them up
I was 30 mins down yesterday, was on aldridge road by wickes doing a 936
And the road was blocked by police so got sent back to one stop island, up walsall road, down beeches road, left up aldridge road and strIght up dyas to hawthorn !
I'm told all 79's are stuck in West Brom due to a traffic light staying on red.
867 was running 20 down on 244 earlier, in convoy with 869
900s and 957s not doing great today
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 20, 2015, 05:57:22 PM
900s and 957s not doing great today
A lot of stuff isn't today.
At AG the 5/31/37s are running late, well a lot of them. On Stratford Road, behind me (4517 on route 5) was a Gem on the 31, behind that another Gem on 31, and behind that a Gem on the 5.
297s in the afternoon and Saturdays never seem to keep to time...
Me thinks too little running time
Lordswood Rd in Harborne closed due to a car fire. 11's, 24's & 48's queued up on both sides. 4953, 45xx blocked at War Lane stop, towards Bearwood and 4678 (11), 4505 (48), 4231 (48) & 2144 (24) stuck further up road.
Edit
4953 now unstuck, proceeding to Bartley Green at 1439, along with 4506 headed to West Brom, and 4668 continuing on 11C
On Wednesday I was down to do a trip on the 94 in my break of my duty on the 7. It came half an hour late with no apparent problem on the route, so I was adjusted to run dead all the way to Chelmsley Wood. Oh I love cruising down the Collector Road sitting on the limiter. Only just about managed to get there on time for departure.
Then I was expecting to come off really late on the 7, due to roadworks in Witton (Credit to AVL - quite a few 7s were sent from one end of the route to the other to keep on time - I was adjusted one journey each way), and traffic in the City Centre at rush hour, but to my surprise, Lionel Street was empty at 5.05pm (the last time I done the same duty, it took me nearly 20 minutes to get down it!) and I managed to come off bang on time!
I also got late on the 907 this afternoon. Nearly 30 minutes at one point, on my last trip from City which should have been 5.13pm. The one behind caught me up at the College Road/Kingstanding Road junction by Halfords
6108,6110 and another 9 branded mmc in convoy in Halesowen departing for brum at 14:05
804 and 805 in convoy on 99
Harborne services all heavily disrupted today. 6 22/23/24s within a couple of minutes of each other along the High Street from city, shortly before that 5512 was adjusted and running as a 23E California, 801 on the 99 was running Not in Service with passengers on board (alighting only), and 5516 was also running NIS towards Bartley Green, presumably also adjusted due to late running.
126's were quite bad this afternoon. I was on 4579 which was in a convoy of three. Between Dudley and Wolverhampton i passed 4 Tridents (Which i know are booked on the 126 today) were ruuning NIS
Bristol Road is fun tonight - a 61, 63, 61E Northfield, 63E Longbridge and three full 98s just passed in convoy. The only other buses I've seen are running outbound not in service or setdown only.
Quote from: Russ Smith on June 30, 2015, 06:59:14 PM
Bristol Road is fun tonight - a 61, 63, 61E Northfield, 63E Longbridge and three full 98s just passed in convoy. The only other buses I've seen are running outbound not in service or setdown only.
Horrendous problems inbound due presumably due to an incident on either Aston Expressway or M6. Traffic backed up all through tunnels, down Bristol St and quite a way down Bristol Rd. Hagley Rd and Harborne services also affected as problems also affecting Great Charles St, Paradise Circus etc.
Seems to happen all too often these days.
Quote from: Mike K on June 30, 2015, 07:11:38 PM
Horrendous problems inbound due presumably due to an incident on either Aston Expressway or M6. Traffic backed up all through tunnels, down Bristol St and quite a way down Bristol Rd. Hagley Rd and Harborne services also affected as problems also affecting Great Charles St, Paradise Circus etc.
Seems to happen all too often these days.
Yeah, got my Timed Receipt in shall we say. Lol
Took my 29A (808) 45 minutes to do Broad Street to Colmore Row. Walking from there to New Street was the quickest id moved in an hour.
Quote from: Mike K on June 30, 2015, 07:11:38 PM
Horrendous problems inbound due presumably due to an incident on either Aston Expressway or M6. Traffic backed up all through tunnels, down Bristol St and quite a way down Bristol Rd. Hagley Rd and Harborne services also affected as problems also affecting Great Charles St, Paradise Circus etc.
Seems to happen all too often these days.
It took me nearly 45 minutes to get along the Expressway this afternoon. The nearside outbound lane was closed due to an accident which looked like to have been nearly cleared up by the time I passed it
Quote from: John on June 30, 2015, 09:13:29 PM
It took me nearly 45 minutes to get along the Expressway this afternoon. The nearside outbound lane was closed due to an accident which looked like to have been nearly cleared up by the time I passed it
Was terrible terrible coming into the Coty from Digbeth too, must have been the backlog of traffic. Standstill for ages outside the coach station! Ended up 25 mins late on the 37, and as I was the fast one, it got rammed pretty quick!
Also managed to bring Carrs Lane/Dale End/Albert Street to a standstill by going through the lights only for the bus in front to pretty much immediately park up (ALX on the 82) with my in between the lights this Albert Street stood still and then seen the outcome on Carrs Lane!
Ridiculous where those stops are for the Bristol/Dudley Road buses especially when there's a Sapphire E400 coming the other way up and floods of buses on Dale End!
Quote from: MW on July 01, 2015, 12:22:12 AM
Was terrible terrible coming into the Coty from Digbeth too, must have been the backlog of traffic. Standstill for ages outside the coach station! Ended up 25 mins late on the 37, and as I was the fast one, it got rammed pretty quick!
Also managed to bring Carrs Lane/Dale End/Albert Street to a standstill by going through the lights only for the bus in front to pretty much immediately park up (ALX on the 82) with my in between the lights this Albert Street stood still and then seen the outcome on Carrs Lane!
Ridiculous where those stops are for the Bristol/Dudley Road buses especially when there's a Sapphire E400 coming the other way up and floods of buses on Dale End!
There was a broken down car on Moor Street at around 1700 just for an added inconvenience. I'll walk today if it's the same again.
Saw schhol service 886 arrive Walsall at 18:26 yesterday official time is 1710
Yesterday afternoon/evening great fun in Brum on the 82/87 service , traffic in every nook and cranny you can think of, running 50 mins plus late not in a convoy getting hammered, the convoy of 82,s were 15/20 mins behind me, got to bearwood bus interchange thought might as well phone AVL as the radio had received no response, told the chap on the phone my situation response I got told to carry on for now there's 80 buses que,ed up on the radio system once we gone through that we,ll contact you, fat chance, as a result I,ve just pulled into oak road after completing the mileage on my first part, when my phone rang where are you there's a 87 in oldbury that I'm supposed to be taking over, not much I can do from west brom, so that 87 stood there for nearly an hour while I had my RTA break then travelled by bus to oldbury on the 4 ,
Digbeth/Markets gridlocked this afternoon. (I don't know if it is like that every day)
It took me around 45 minutes just to get around Digbeth and to Upper Dean Street on the 16. By the time I had got to Snow Hill there was 3 of us in a row helping each other out. AVL radioed and said to let the relief driver take over on the other side of the road than what it should have been (Towards Hamstead instead of towards City). Still 10 minutes late there though
809-99 running 15 down
Also 4H from Halesowen at 15:33 running 25 down
Pe 9 running in 2s and 3s
WA40/41 buggered this evening. Just passed 1844 (41), 1436 (41), 1447 (40) & 1842 (40E), all in Bentley at 1733! Not good at all!
1824 and 1831 running in convoy round the 8A atm, meant to be every 20 mins
Earlier the driver of 865 said to the passengers" better late than never"
Also the b7 on 222 isn't having any layover
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 24, 2015, 04:39:24 PM
Earlier the driver of 865 said to the passengers" better late than never"
Also the b7 on 222 isn't having any layover
Most 222's don't have any drop back and if they do its the odd min here and there.
Quote from: Dom on July 24, 2015, 04:54:40 PM
Most 222's don't have any drop back and if they do its the odd min here and there.
@Dom @Trident4194 they have a few mins if running early at Russells Hall Post Offfice otherwise than that they usually have layover at Dudley but as
@Dom said
MOSTDon't
Quote from: Rhys S on July 24, 2015, 05:16:56 PM
@Dom @Trident4194 they have a few mins if running early at Russells Hall Post Offfice otherwise than that they usually have layover at Dudley but as @Dom said MOSTDon't
Well he left at 12:30 instead of 12:23 and arrived merry hill at 13:10 instead of 12:59. A b7rle is tight round those roads though and wasn't going over 15-20 mph. 868 was also on the 222
Oh this is gonna be fun.... Park Lane in Aston is reduced to one lane just at the junction with Thomas st where there's already three way lights and all the traffic comes to from the Aston Bridge diversion. Expect (further) delays on the Inner Circle folks!
All Sutton services using Birmingham Road are suffering this week due to temporary traffic lights at the Horse & Jockey junction. Most of the Sutton Lines are running in twos or threes, plus the 5s are too. Sometimes it can take near enough 15 minutes to reach the lights from Sutton at the worst of times. Most buses are around 10 minutes late reaching City
99s running late as usual
2120 arrived in the City Centre on the 72 to Solihull 7 minutes late. By the time it had got to Clock Garage it was running 15 minutes late with 1946 on the next departure infront. 1946 overtook 2120 in Hodge Hill on Chipperfield Road.
The whole of North Birmingham is screwed tonight. Birchfield Road absolutely gridlocked. Bunching up of every service, 33s, 51s, 997s, 907s etc. Something is up with the 65s too as only one came in 30 minutes at the fire station
Gridlock in all directions at the temporary lights by Newtown Baths
Quote from: John on August 10, 2015, 05:31:36 PM
The whole of North Birmingham is screwed tonight. Birchfield Road absolutely gridlocked. Bunching up of every service, 33s, 51s, 997s, 907s etc. Something is up with the 65s too as only one came in 30 minutes at the fire station
Gridlock in all directions at the temporary lights by Newtown Baths
Exactly the same again tonight. I wonder how long these lights are there for. I want to get home! But at least there is free wifi >:(
Quote from: John on August 11, 2015, 05:04:25 PM
Exactly the same again tonight. I wonder how long these lights are there for. I want to get home! But at least there is free wifi >:(
Three weeks
Quote from: John on August 11, 2015, 05:04:25 PM
Exactly the same again tonight. I wonder how long these lights are there for. I want to get home! But at least there is free wifi >:(
I wonder if the 11 will ever get WiFi lol
Quote from: MW on August 11, 2015, 06:51:30 PM
I wonder if the 11 will ever get WiFi lol
The 11 is getting wifi next month (just not the Outer Circle)
Quote from: Tony on August 11, 2015, 06:53:33 PM
The 11 is getting wifi next month (just not the Outer Circle)
Coventry 11? Will it be a month till the enviro 400's start on the 11. Seems to be taking a long time.
Quote from: Tony on August 11, 2015, 06:53:33 PM
The 11 is getting wifi next month (just not the Outer Circle)
Yeahhhhh I meant the proper 11 :)
Quote from: MW on August 11, 2015, 07:47:46 PM
Yeahhhhh I meant the proper 11 :)
When the 11 is rid of the Presidents then it might happen, but no point in fitting them with wi-fi equipment with only months/year left at the most.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 11, 2015, 07:56:17 PM
When the 11 is rid of the Presidents then it might happen, but no point in fitting them with wi-fi equipment with only months/year left at the most.
Do not think many will last a year with sone already having depated,to reserve put the equkment in the recently refurbed an reprinted Geminis .
Three Dudley bound 1s have passed through Lichfield Street together
Traffic on the Birchfield Road very slow all the way back to One Stop. I guess the M6 being closed is not helping the situation at Newtown either. I dread to think what the Suttons will be like this afternoon
Quote from: John on August 14, 2015, 12:29:10 PM
Traffic on the Birchfield Road very slow all the way back to One Stop. I guess the M6 being closed is not helping the situation at Newtown either. I dread to think what the Suttons will be like this afternoon
@John the traffic is awful inbound on the A34 towards Birmingham im currently on 935 towards city crawling speed just after perry barr
Quote from: John on August 14, 2015, 12:29:10 PM
Traffic on the Birchfield Road very slow all the way back to One Stop. I guess the M6 being closed is not helping the situation at Newtown either. I dread to think what the Suttons will be like this afternoon
The Suttons aren't too bad at the moment stragely enough. Birchfield Road, Soho Road and services that go near Junction 5 (28/67/71/966) are the bad ones
Just came off 25 minutes down, not bad considering I was at tops 45 minutes behind at one point. Come off with another 914 following me all the way from Sutton. Plus passed another two together as well. One of those head spinner days I think!
Another driver has heard that some 51s were running 2 hours late, and most others up to an hour
A34 chokka out of City now, 952s and 907s not using the underpasses.
Glad I was on locals and finished at 1200 midday
I just came off 4801 2 hours late! I was 30 mins down getting into town (after leaving wellhead lane on time!) due to the temporary lights, told to run dead to Walsall and spent 2 hours getting from perry barr to junction 7!
Quote from: Chris on August 14, 2015, 12:48:21 PM
@John the traffic is awful inbound on the A34 towards Birmingham im currently on 935 towards city crawling speed just after perry barr
Well it's just taken me an hour to get home on the 997, usually a 15 minute journey. Can't see the traffic dying down soon. Not sure if the Motorway is open yet
M6 northbound opened at 17:00 and southbound reopened at 17:30.
Don't worry, the rest of the bus network in and out of Birmingham gets screwed up too! :D
In particular, the 37 is in meltdown, mainly due to the city centre traffic, but also not being helped by some ridiculous 4-way controlled temporary lights on Warwick Road at Knights Road junction in Tyseley, as well as the diversion through Acocks Green due to the closure of Warwick Road.
I'm glad I'm home now, and don't need to catch another bus until Monday! I shall be making a complaint to my local councillor, as these works in Tyseley and Acocks Green weren't meant to start until after 7pm. Also, the diversion info on the NX website appears to be wrong, as the Warwick Road is closed in both directions.
Quote from: Stu on August 14, 2015, 07:14:48 PM
Don't worry, the rest of the bus network in and out of Birmingham gets screwed up too! :D
In particular, the 37 is in meltdown, mainly due to the city centre traffic, but also not being helped by some ridiculous 4-way controlled temporary lights on Warwick Road at Knights Road junction in Tyseley, as well as the diversion through Acocks Green due to the closure of Warwick Road.
I'm glad I'm home now, and don't need to catch another bus until Monday! I shall be making a complaint to my local councillor, as these works in Tyseley and Acocks Green weren't meant to start until after 7pm. Also, the diversion info on the NX website appears to be wrong, as the Warwick Road is closed in both directions.
The roadworks in Castle Vale
@Stu have been causing buses to run late all week on the 28, 71 and 67 .
Quote from: John on August 14, 2015, 06:25:24 PM
Well it's just taken me an hour to get home on the 997, usually a 15 minute journey. Can't see the traffic dying down soon. Not sure if the Motorway is open yet
I think when the m6 gets close they should open the m6 toll free for traffic during the closure. Would help the people that want to by pass birmingham therefore it will ease the pressure on the west midlands roads which aren't meant to cope with motorway traffic coming through.
Last two evenings have been dire never once been on time Friday we all now about m6 closure plus a premier league game at villa, last nite Dudley rd services were screwed cause of the hot air balloon rides and fun fair at Victoria park, as I about exit West Bromwich bus station a chap has seizure on the zebra crossing that cost 20 minutes, then I get to the blue gates smethwick more delays, while on the 89 I come into oldbury heading to city I get round of applause for turning up cause the 87,s had gone missing some people claimed to be waiting nearly hour and half, well I thought it's better than abuse, then later on in the evening blue gates smethwick is closed by police after a bad rtc brilliant I couldn't turn the bus round so I escaped using the side roads not appropriate for bus, I,ve seen class two rigid trucks go up in the past , fingers and toes crossed I made it to Devonshire rd then stony lane back on route and into city eventually,last journey to west brom blue gates still closed , so on to the smethwick bypass I,m dropping of passengers at ASRA then this old lady comes to me I need to get to Devonshire rd I can't walk very far I have this stick you see, she then proceeded to give directions on how to get there , I call traffic explaining the situation, I,m basically told use my best judgement on getting this old lady home , so now I,m heading towards Devonshire rd as if I,m going towards city now old dear now done and dusted , now I,ve got to travel the entire length of Devonshire rd to littlemore hill island to turn round and head back as normal , I now pull into west brom bus round 0010 I forgot to erase my blinds before entering, a chap comes to me thinking I,m still in service told him I,m done ,he said where's the 2308 83 it still eh come, by this time I,ve no patience for any more crap, I don't know, closed the doors and left, I still finished nearly 20 minutes late , a nite to forget , I,ve switched my land line and mobile off so no from west brom traffic can contact me asking can I help last second.com. I is gona chill today now I,ve got that off me chest.
Yeah I saw two 80s leaving brum within minutes of each other last night, figured it was to do with the Balloons thing
Quote from: 2900 on August 16, 2015, 10:49:22 AM
Last two evenings have been dire never once been on time Friday we all now about m6 closure plus a premier league game at villa, last nite Dudley rd services were screwed cause of the hot air balloon rides and fun fair at Victoria park, as I about exit West Bromwich bus station a chap has seizure on the zebra crossing that cost 20 minutes, then I get to the blue gates smethwick more delays, while on the 89 I come into oldbury heading to city I get round of applause for turning up cause the 87,s had gone missing some people claimed to be waiting nearly hour and half, well I thought it's better than abuse, then later on in the evening blue gates smethwick is closed by police after a bad rtc brilliant I couldn't turn the bus round so I escaped using the side roads not appropriate for bus, I,ve seen class two rigid trucks go up in the past , fingers and toes crossed I made it to Devonshire rd then stony lane back on route and into city eventually,last journey to west brom blue gates still closed , so on to the smethwick bypass I,m dropping of passengers at ASRA then this old lady comes to me I need to get to Devonshire rd I can't walk very far I have this stick you see, she then proceeded to give directions on how to get there , I call traffic explaining the situation, I,m basically told use my best judgement on getting this old lady home , so now I,m heading towards Devonshire rd as if I,m going towards city now old dear now done and dusted , now I,ve got to travel the entire length of Devonshire rd to littlemore hill island to turn round and head back as normal , I now pull into west brom bus round 0010 I forgot to erase my blinds before entering, a chap comes to me thinking I,m still in service told him I,m done ,he said where's the 2308 83 it still eh come, by this time I,ve no patience for any more crap, I don't know, closed the doors and left, I still finished nearly 20 minutes late , a nite to forget , I,ve switched my land line and mobile off so no from west brom traffic can contact me asking can I help last second.com. I is gona chill today now I,ve got that off me chest.
I was 125 minutes late when the m6 was shut, It took me 2 hours to get 4801 from perry barr to past j7!
Guessing it's just the usual Tyburn and Chester Road delays but 4 67s turned up a Salford Circus inbound 18:05
Quote from: Kevin on August 18, 2015, 06:27:52 PM
Guessing it's just the usual Tyburn and Chester Road delays but 4 67s turned up a Salford Circus inbound 18:05
When the M6 North is shut around Junction 5 and not expected to reopen until 2130 bus services do tend to get screwed up nearby
In all the years i,ve done I can't recall ever being over 2 hours late behind the wheel of a bus, but I have waited for bus at my relief point in oldbury for 4 and half hours with half dozen others in the freezing cold after a snap snow storm caught every one out. Around 2130 hrs services were cancelled only after an rtc when several buses slid into each other at dudleys castle gate hill. The inspector at oldbury said that you all free to go home, several of us went straight into the nearest pub downed some vodka and walked many many miles home, I felt like the ready brek kid after those, all warm and glowing.
It never ceases to amaze me how passengers expect bus services to be fully operational and on time in the worst weather conditions.
Back in the day when Hayley rd services used go over the top of five ways, it was crawl most evenings passengers/ customers would watch you crawl to them and when they,ve finally boarded it was like, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN, words just fail me at times of such stupidity.
The 71's were running in two's one must of been 30 minutes late or, more! saw 2 MMC this afternoon pass through Castle Vale together. Must of had something to do with this
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/castle-vale-fire-porsche-engulfed-9978427
On here aswell
https://twitter.com/WardEndFire
Spotted two 31s to Solihull following each other through Acocks Green as I got off the 37 about half an hour ago.
14:45 55 from the City Centre left Saltley 7/8 minutes late
1940 & 2232 were running together on the 71 towards Solihull around 09:30-09:45 seen at The Wheatsheaf.
2235 and another E200MMC justbbehind it in Sutton about 13:50 this afternoon
There is a paper on the display thingy on 126 stand in Wolverhampton Bus Station. "This service is experiencing delays of 45-50 minutes late due to an incident on the route. National Express."
Quote from: P419 EJW on September 08, 2015, 10:37:38 AM
There is a paper on the display thingy on 126 stand in Wolverhampton Bus Station. "This service is experiencing delays of 45-50 minutes late due to an incident on the route. National Express."
On the A4123 between Oldbury M5 Island and Burnt Tree Island according to BBC Travel (Looks like the junction where the 120/127 cross the 126). It says that the 120, 121 and 127 is also heavily delayed
Was the 07:53 99 from Halesowen to Birmingham a no show as it didn't appear may have gone early?
Yesterday morning (Tues 22/09) big peak a.m. delays on 126 - around 8.35 3 in convoy at Norfolk Road traffic lights to B'ham (4143, 4311, 45xx) and 8.40 2 in convoy at Lightswood Park (one E to 5 Ways 4138, 45xx).
Lots of services experiencing heavy delays today on Washwood Heath Road, Alum Rock Road, Soho Road, and Stratford Road, due to 'Eid shopping'.
Stratford Road services through Sparkhill being diverted via Stony Lane, Yardley Wood Road and Wake Green Road.
The A52 to Rugeley was a no show.
I waited 2 hours for it in the cold weather in the morning yet it never came. Amazon stated they were contacting National Express and some "Comissioner" was liaising with the traffic office to see why it never showed up.
The 1.25pm 77 is a no show
6719 has just turned up, I think it is the 1.55pm as 6755 has left the Parade NIS the way that the 6 leaves
2 WN81's just gone up Ivyhouse Lane. One 32 down on 3 down.
The bad old delays on late weekends on broad st back with a vengeance Friday 30 minutes from town hall to five ways, last nite nearly 45 minutes from town hall to plough and Harrow , there's no need to be on broad st why can't broad st services use Dudley rd services route out of brum to springhill island, then the ring road to five ways to maintain some sort of service it's just ridiculous. I don't see why I have to work nearly an hour longer on top of already long duties , all this talk of fuel efficiency what load of crap. Thank fully nobody who got on after five ways gave me grief cause I was ready to dish it back,I don't do customer care when I should be at home enjoying a frosty one.
Quote from: 2900 on September 27, 2015, 10:24:27 AM
The bad old delays on late weekends on broad st back with a vengeance Friday 30 minutes from town hall to five ways, last nite nearly 45 minutes from town hall to plough and Harrow , there's no need to be on broad st why can't broad st services use Dudley rd services route out of brum to springhill island, then the ring road to five ways to maintain some sort of service it's just ridiculous. I don't see why I have to work nearly an hour longer on top of already long duties , all this talk of fuel efficiency what load of crap. Thank fully nobody who got on after five ways gave me grief cause I was ready to dish it back,I don't do customer care when I should be at home enjoying a frosty one.
That route was even worse last night as all 9000 people at the Michael McIntyre show were put out onto Spring Hill
Can't win then until paradise is done , between now and Christmas there's hell of lot shows and attractions on.
X96s running late due at stourbridge 14.38 and still a no show
Possibly knock on effect from the resurfacing works on Priory road Dudley this morning, but not sure that would have caused 20 minute delays
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on September 27, 2015, 06:13:56 PM
Possibly knock on effect from the resurfacing works on Priory road Dudley this morning, but not sure that would have caused 20 minute delays
Correct, it didn't cause 20 minute delays, It caused both buses to be over an hour late at one point
Quote from: Tony on September 27, 2015, 06:19:03 PM
Correct, it didn't cause 20 minute delays, It caused both buses to be over an hour late at one point
Thanks for the update
@Tony i didn't know what was going on. 6121 has gotten back on track whilst 4346 is running 25 mins down
Quote from: Chris on September 27, 2015, 06:23:23 PM
Thanks for the update @Tony i didn't know what was going on. 6121 has gotten back on track whilst 4346 is running 25 mins down
They actually swapped running boards at one point to help put them closer to time
Quote from: Tony on September 27, 2015, 06:24:17 PM
They actually swapped running boards at one point to help put them closer to time
As 4346 is running down still do you think they will terminate it at stourbridge and turn it around back on time?
This morning I waited 20mins for a 37; having just missed one that seemingly left on time at 8:25am from Shirley Road (as I could see it parked up for a couple of minutes as I walked down to the stop), I checked the NX app, and it showed a timetabled departure at 8:31am, then the next one due in 11 mins.
The timetabled bus never showed up, so I presume one was missing, and the next one eventually arrived at 8:44, which left a minute or so later after changing drivers. A huge crowd got on at the next stop, and then it was hit or miss as to whether the driver was able to stop and pick up other large crowds waiting at stops.
Last nite broad st Birmingham services went pear shaped with the band fall out boy playing at the nia plus thousands of students on the piss, by the time I reached ivy bush hagley rd timing point I,m 25 minutes down , wasn't expecting that on a Tuesday nite.
I was spotting on Colmore Row today for about an hour between two and three and didnt see a 141, was any missing?
Quote from: Dutsey on October 09, 2015, 05:56:55 PM
I was spotting on Colmore Row today for about an hour between two and three and didnt see a 141, was any missing?
Major delays on colmore row down to one lane I heard, I've seen a few 9E which may also back this up
1's (WN) in convoy this afternoon due to an accident on Tettenhall Rd this afternoon. Saw 4 together on Pipers Row earlier!
A seriously crap boy band with there crap list of songs have come to Birmingham for the weekend last nite I spent one hour and ten minutes on broad street with exasperated passengers who just wanted to go home after work. I arrived in blackheath nearly an hour down not good to say the least, between now and Christmas broad street is going to be testing time.
Quote from: 2900 on October 11, 2015, 10:45:43 AM
A seriously crap boy band with there crap list of songs have come to Birmingham for the weekend last nite I spent one hour and ten minutes on broad street with exasperated passengers who just wanted to go home after work. I arrived in blackheath nearly an hour down not good to say the least, between now and Christmas broad street is going to be testing time.
Which one, only one I know that's in Birmingham ate Years and Years as o saw them on Friday night.
A seriously crap boy band with there crap list of songs have come to Birmingham for the weekend last nite I spent one hour and ten minutes on broad street with exasperated passengers who just wanted to go home after work. I arrived in blackheath nearly an hour down not good to say the least, between now and Christmas broad street is going to be testing time.
Should we filter the word "One Direction" and make it automatically change to "A seriously crap boy band with there crap list of songs" haha
Quote from: Liverpool Street on October 11, 2015, 01:37:35 PM
Should we filter the word "One Direction" and make it automatically change to "A seriously crap boy band with there crap list of songs" haha
Oh thats who... Yeah I 100% agree haha :)
Good job you said, as that description could apply to a few groups!
Good riddance that seriously crap boy band with its equally crap songs have left brum last nite.
Probably followed by seriously crap girl band. I must say the parents who dropped there teenage girls off for the concert could found something more constructive to do rather than sit in there cars burning juice for 3/4 hrs , plenty of cinemas in brum, just a thought.
14:30 997 from walsall was a no show. A bus did eventually come in about 20 late but went off not in service without a word of explanation from the driver. Not useful for trying to get to Pheasey
Not too sure why but the Suttons were a nightmare this morning.
The queues were in the usual places (Walmley Road towards Minworth) Rectory Road/Coleshill Street, Expressway) but I lost I think nearly 45 minutes. I should have left City around 9.10am, but it was nearly 9.45am by the time I left on a 905, with a 902 and 904 running close too. A few of the other buses were running special, and I had to get adjusted from Roughley as I would have had around 20 minutes to reach relief at the Uni. Still came off 4 minutes late but better than 30 minutes!
4138 and 4568 both on 79 currently following each other in Wednesbury, going towards Wolvertrampton.
Yesterday evening Dudley rd hagley rd services went extremely pear shaped , I joined the que at Britannic warehouse and inched myself towards colmore row , still none wiser what actually caused it, I know brum and rain never mix, but I couldn't see any activities at NIA or ICC
Quote from: Kevin on October 18, 2015, 03:14:59 PM
14:30 997 from walsall was a no show. A bus did eventually come in about 20 late but went off not in service without a word of explanation from the driver. Not useful for trying to get to Pheasey
Could have caught the .45 934?
Quote from: BU07 LGO on October 28, 2015, 04:40:35 PM
Could have caught the .45 934?
Sunday
Only that one an hour to Pheasey
The 87 towards Dudley about 10 minutes ago was quite late because of the closed road by Burnt Tree
(plus who clever idea was it to send it towards Tipton and go that way round to get into Dudley - would have been easier to send it up the 127 route into Dudley surely?)
Over 45 minutes without a 126 from Birmingham this evening, still waiting? What's been going on, usual chaos around Oldbury/Burnt Tree?
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on October 28, 2015, 08:30:53 PM
Over 45 minutes without a 126 from Birmingham this evening, still waiting? What's been going on, usual chaos around Oldbury/Burnt Tree?
Is that currently?
Yeah, finally on 4581 just leaving Moor Street, been waiting just under an hour, naturally we're packed
Two 53s to West Bromwich along the Queens Road in the space of 2 minutes, the reliability of the 53 certainly won't be missed
two 71s together earlier this afternoon - 2226 and 2229
only about a 10 - 15 minute gap between the two buses on the 38 at one this afternoon as well
311 & 313 this afternoon at 1515 in Dudley
No 311/313 for 45 mins in Dudley and the nearest bus was Wednesbury Bus Stn
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on October 28, 2015, 08:30:53 PM
Over 45 minutes without a 126 from Birmingham this evening, still waiting? What's been going on, usual chaos around Oldbury/Burnt Tree?
RTC at Five Ways, blocking the road
Quote from: Tony on October 30, 2015, 06:14:29 PM
RTC at Five Ways, blocking the road
Interesting. With Springfield Road being closed, 11s coming from Bearwood have been told to come through Five Ways and Highgate Road as oppose to the 1 route.
Quote from: Dom on October 30, 2015, 05:45:54 PM
311 & 313 this afternoon at 1515 in Dudley
No 311/313 for 45 mins in Dudley and the nearest bus was Wednesbury Bus Stn
At 445pm, I left work & walked straight up to Wednesbury BS & got a 38 around 520 roughly back to Walsall.
Least I've got next week off.
126's were bad this morning due to an RTC on B'ham New Rd this morning.
Quote from: Nathan on October 30, 2015, 11:30:21 PM
126's were bad this morning due to an RTC on B'ham New Rd this morning.
It wasn't that bad only a couple of mins here and there. The 229 was quite bad 12 mins late into
roseville
The 907s were suffering yesterday afternoon, with the traffic at Perry Barr and New Oscott. I wasn't too bad, at most 10 minutes late but others were running together (20 minute service) and I caught the one in front of me just before I finished, not too bad I only came off a few minutes late
Quote from: Dom on October 31, 2015, 07:41:31 AM
It wasn't that bad only a couple of mins here and there. The 229 was quite bad 12 mins late into
roseville
If they were only running a few minutes late, then they wouldn't have needed to adjust any (which was the case).
6708 running 15 minutes late on the 09:20 900E Birmingham to Airport
6711 & 6712 were running within 5 minutes of each other towards Solihull around 09:55
5 59's running along the Lichfield Rd towards Wolverhampton about 10 minutes ago.
Buses were 4138,2114,4152,4607 and 4578
My 914 turned up with the one behind. I've ran dead to Sutton through Perry Barr and got into Sutton with 4 minutes to spare. The one 20 minutes in front of me has only just left South Parade to load
4291 on the 8:05 907A earlier. Was 15 minutes late throughout and the bus was full and standing, even with passengers on the platform and the driver was still trying to get people on!
Nearly all buses up Dudley due to resurfacing works
Quote from: karl724223 on November 05, 2015, 03:48:23 PM
Nearly all buses up Dudley due to resurfacing works
Where's the resurfacing?
Quote from: Dom on November 05, 2015, 04:31:50 PM
Where's the resurfacing?
The ones I saw were coming out of Dudley on the 120/276 route, is it Kates Hill?
One 246 is 1hr and 1min late, resurfacing is in hall street
Quote from: pndriver on November 05, 2015, 05:38:12 PM
One 246 is 1hr and 1min late, resurfacing is in hall street
Couldn't DMBC have done the work on a Sunday, doing it during the week is sheer madness!
I dread to think how late the 98 and 99 were running tonight, it took me over an hour to drive from Holloway Circus to Edgbaston Park Rd / Somerset Rd this evening following the same route the bus takes. Could see no obvious cause for the traffic either.
I've just came off a 997 35 mins late, was chaos all the way from town I got stuck on the flyover, Aldridge road by asda and then all the way from rushall traffic lights to Walsall! Theres a fire work display at the arboretum causing havoc for Lichfield road and mellish road routes
Quote from: John on November 05, 2015, 02:16:56 PM
My 914 turned up with the one behind. I've ran dead to Sutton through Perry Barr and got into Sutton with 4 minutes to spare. The one 20 minutes in front of me has only just left South Parade to load
I caught the other 914 up by The Anvil on Springfield Road, managed to overtake him just after Walmley but had to wait my time at Bromford Lane, so he overtook again. Quite pleased that I only managed to come off 6 minutes late. Because you could get onto the M6 from the Expressway, Lichfield Road was empty but was still around 15 minutes late getting to Sutton (I had to near enough come straight out again rather than having a break).
I was thinking how many cars on the Expressway wanted to use Gravelly Hill but couldn't and would have had to join the motorway!
My second bus was 10 minutes late, and ran my 905 and 902 around 10 late throughout (I was coming into City with a 904 which helped me out from The Yenton onwards to City. I managed to leave City 6 minutes late, but at that time of night, you get 37 minutes to get to Hill Hook, so quite a quick trip and managed to leave there 8 minutes late, but got back to garage bang on time!
Quote from: BU07 LGO on November 05, 2015, 07:53:20 PM
I've just came off a 997 35 mins late, was chaos all the way from town I got stuck on the flyover, Aldridge road by asda and then all the way from rushall traffic lights to Walsall! Theres a fire work display at the arboretum causing havoc for Lichfield road and mellish road routes
I think it was the fireworks here too. It confused a 3 driver when 2027 came in at 1930 but was actually the 1850, then it was every stop home as we have a big display on our estate. My sister thought id gone mad cursing in the bath at the loud bangs.
Victoria park smethwick had a large bonfire on last nite holding up 80/87s adding half hour to the journeys , plenty of parking tickets issued last nite expensive free nites entertainment me thinks serves them rite to.
Another accident on the Expressway this afternoon in exactly the same place as yesterday, plus another one on the way in around 6.40pm, plenty of late running buses this evening.
On my second trip out of City around half 4.55pm (Should have been 4.33pm), there were 4 of us running together. I got on to Clarence Road up in Mere Green, and there were 2 902s together heading back towards Sutton, I was around 20 late here as I was with the 902 behind. I caught up one in Sutton who dumped all of his passengers in Sutton and left NIS, who I took, then I was still with a 905 all the way into City. I had nearly caught my time back up when the Expressway was queuing due to the second accident, so 15 minutes late finishing tonight!
4530 on board 69/04 arrived in Wolverhampton 40 mins late.
At 17:05, the 16:49 40 from Wolverhampton was still at Willenhall Sikh Temple.
A few mins later, The 17:24 was still at Birchills on a 41.
A few tonight:
4541 on the 256 (225/55 board) arrived at Stourbridge about 30 mins late (Due in just after 20:00 but arrived at 20:31).
It then departed Stourbridge 16 down (Due out at 20:20 but actually departed at 20:36). Then running about 20 mins down until we got back to Wolverhampton.
A 255 passed me on Stream Rd in Kingswinsford at 20:49, This should pass here at 20:28.
Finally, 5401 running together with 5403 on the 59.
907s were terrible today. Traffic at One Stop and New Oscott causing some to be 30 minutes late travelling with the one behind.
Mine came 30 minutes late too with the next one, and I was turned around at Perry Barr so was running only 5 minutes late (with the one that should have been 30 minutes in front!) I followed this one (4506) for a whole trip until he was RTI'd. This driver had to have a 30 minute break in Sutton and then get adjusted, which meant that I got hammered for the next trip reaching Sutton around 15 minutes late
I imagine it will be like this until after Christmas now
The 907 (my route I use everyday has been suffering from delays for some time, I spoke to an inspector on Lower Bull Street and as soon as I say "907" he said "don't mention the 907, we struggle to keep that route to timetable all the time".
This route needs radical change, one suggestion is to remove it from One Stop and Tesco's at New Oscott to make the route more direct and may be more reliable, but that would mean a new localised route between One Stop and Tesco's at New Oscott but that mean an increase in vehicles so I can't see NXWM doing that. So where do we go from here, something needs to be done about the 907.
1845 running about 20 down on the 89 today.Departed Wolverhampton about 15:25 (Due out at 15:05)
Quote from: Nathan on November 08, 2015, 09:09:50 PM
1845 running about 20 down on the 89 today.Departed Wolverhampton about 15:25 (Due out at 15:05)
Always seems to have a problem since they linked the 2 routes together.
When my sister worked in Wednesfield, it was frequently late.
Quote from: Nathan on November 07, 2015, 10:22:27 PM
A few tonight:
4541 on the 256 (225/55 board) arrived at Stourbridge about 30 mins late (Due in just after 20:00 but arrived at 20:31).
It then departed Stourbridge 16 down (Due out at 20:20 but actually departed at 20:36). Then running about 20 mins down until we got back to Wolverhampton.
A 255 passed me on Stream Rd in Kingswinsford at 20:49, This should pass here at 20:28.
Finally, 5401 running together with 5403 on the 59.
That was due to congestion at himley
Quote from: bususer12 on November 09, 2015, 11:06:08 AM
That was due to congestion at himley
I know.... I was stuck in the traffic!
2 WN82's currently running together 4154 (20 mins late) and 4325 (on time). Currently approaching gone Bramford.
Quote from: Steve3229vp on November 08, 2015, 09:05:32 PM
The 907 (my route I use everyday has been suffering from delays for some time, I spoke to an inspector on Lower Bull Street and as soon as I say "907" he said "don't mention the 907, we struggle to keep that route to timetable all the time".
This route needs radical change, one suggestion is to remove it from One Stop and Tesco's at New Oscott to make the route more direct and may be more reliable, but that would mean a new localised route between One Stop and Tesco's at New Oscott but that mean an increase in vehicles so I can't see NXWM doing that. So where do we go from here, something needs to be done about the 907.
heres a controversial idea, how about more running time!?
Quote from: BU07 LGO on November 09, 2015, 08:14:32 PM
heres a controversial idea, how about more running time!?
MORE you want MORE!!! lol :) :) :)
That would be nice! The daytime is not too bad, just in the peaks.
I was running 20 odd minutes behind again on the 907 this evening, with the one behind. I took over at 3.11pm towards Sutton, and was around 10 late getting there because of the school traffic, and had to swing straight round. Ran the next trip back to Sutton around 15 late, as I should have had 20 minutes dropback before my last trip but I never got into Sutton until 5.51pm when I should have left, but I had to have a quick few minutes to have a drink and something to eat. I did catch up though and got back into Sutton bang on time at 7.17pm to run dead back to garage
7026 running 12 late on the 66, just because a driver didn't turn up to take over in town.
On a related note, I'm now late back to work from me lunch break
6714 & 6712 running together on 957 towards Solihull @ 09:45 seen at The Wheatsheaf
Over an hour journey between City and Heartlands hospital on the 97 earlier. Biggest hold ups were the traffic lights by Liverpool Street and Garrison Circus.
997s was over 20 mins late this evening as per usual
Quote from: BU07 LGO on November 10, 2015, 09:07:52 PM
997s was over 20 mins late this evening as per usual
There were 2 sets of 2 997s running together around 12.50pm this afternoon in Perry Barr. One set each way, 2 997Es to Pheasey and 2 Birmingham bound buses together
I had to get adjusted on the 914 this evening (as I should have been the 6.32pm from City but was running around 15 late) so ran dead to Sutton, I wasn't expecting it so was glad to get a decent dropback
Quote from: John on November 10, 2015, 09:42:23 PM
There were 2 sets of 2 997s running together around 12.50pm this afternoon in Perry Barr. One set each way, 2 997Es to Pheasey and 2 Birmingham bound buses together
I had to get adjusted on the 914 this evening (as I should have been the 6.32pm from City but was running around 15 late) so ran dead to Sutton, I wasn't expecting it so was glad to get a decent dropback
I didn't get adjusted, I was 20 down on one trip :( I always lose time on Aldridge road by asda and at rushall traffic lights, they let about 4 cars across!
I was adjusted twice on the 11C today. Arrived at Perry Barr an hour late and was told to go straight to Acocks Green. I had to go through City due to some insane traffic on the Ring Road. City was chaos till Camp Hill island. I arrived at Acocks Green 35 mins late, and was adjusted to City Hospital, to which I was 10 mins late. Then a good thrash back to Acocks Green and then garage. That's the good thing about the 11. You get to drive all around the City when adjusted lol.
Also diversion is on at Perry Barr. Right on A34, left Trinity Road, left at lights to join the 7 route to the island, then normal. Next week we're diverting to go past PB which should be fun lol
A few drivers have said avl can't adjust platinum routes? I'm not sure how true that is but it would explain why I never get adjusted!
The 11:09 53 from Cape Hill towards Merry Hill didn't show up at all
Quote from: OH25 on November 11, 2015, 11:45:19 AM
The 11:09 53 from Cape Hill towards Merry Hill didn't show up at all
Soon you won't have to worry about that :-\
4272 and 4273 running in pairs on the 80 to West Bromwich on Oldbury Road about half an hour ago. 4272 was rammed, while 4273 was carrying fresh air
4331 on the WA 89 was 18 minutes late leaving Wednesfield High towards Walsall, as well as 4297 on the 41, arriving NIS in New Invention Square, leaving some unhappy passengers who boarded 842 on the 28, although one absolute d***head decoded to try his hands and feet at beating up 842! One of the only times I've actually been scared in public transport. Not good at all
59's,69's and 89's all bunching. Worse than usual.
2 44s to Tipton within 3 minutes of each other on the high street
1571 and 1591 were running late earlier as the 1520 departure off MH for GW was FTO and showed up in MH at 1555 got as far as Brierley Hill and MH inspector told it to turf everyone off at Russell's Hall Hospital and 1571 turned up 2 mins Later so 1591 was late and 1571 on time
Quote from: RS on November 13, 2015, 09:06:38 PM
1571 and 1591 were running late earlier as the 1520 departure off MH for GW was FTO and showed up in MH at 1555 got as far as Brierley Hill and MH inspector told it to turf everyone off at Russell's Hall Hospital and 1571 turned up 2 mins Later so 1591 was late and 1571 on time
How can it be FTO if it showed up?
Cause it didn't turn up on its actual departure
Quote from: RS on November 14, 2015, 10:25:50 AM
Cause it didn't turn up on its actual departure
FTO means 'failed to operate' you actually stated it operated.
Heavy traffic heading into city by old fire station
No little than 5 126's in convoy this afternoon going towards Wolverhampton.
Quote from: Nathan on November 14, 2015, 03:50:20 PM
No little than 5 126's in convoy this afternoon going towards Wolverhampton.
Do you know why?
Quote from: Dom on November 14, 2015, 03:58:52 PM
Do you know why?
@Dom Birminghams gridlock, suppose this is causing the delays
Well my 935 was due at 1420 and came at 1556! The 935 after was behind and still didn't get adjusted even though we both had barely any passengers!
Quote from: Dom on November 14, 2015, 03:58:52 PM
Do you know why?
traffic heading to German market & the Saturday shoppers
Mixture of that and the Mailbox was evacuated. Stuck in it myself earlier.
Quote from: Tony on November 14, 2015, 10:53:09 AM
FTO means 'failed to operate' you actually stated it operated.
Doesn't a bus class a failed to operate if is outside the window of compliance of no more than 1 minute early or 5 minutes late, I'm sure I've read that in recent articles of the Traffic Commissioner's investigations into GRS.
Driver of the 51 just said there's been a fatal crash by the Bell Inn, so 51 X51 (and so equally 934/937A) are all screwed atm
Edit:
They're all going up the Queslett road from Scott Arms and up over Barr Beacon to get to Walsall
Except the X51 that was behind me, dunno maybe it's cleared already or he just didn't get the message
Quote from: Kevin on November 15, 2015, 02:36:46 PM
Driver of the 51 just said there's been a fatal crash by the Bell Inn, so 51 X51 (and so equally 934/937A) are all screwed atm
Edit:
They're all going up the Queslett road from Scott Arms and up over Barr Beacon to get to Walsall
Except the X51 that was behind me, dunno maybe it's cleared already or he just didn't get the message
There's not many suitable diversion routes round there, is there?
What about that road by that hotel by J7?
Quote from: Westy on November 15, 2015, 03:07:24 PM
There's not many suitable diversion routes round there, is there?
What about that road by that hotel by J7?
Chapel Lane, It comes out just past Barr Beacon School on the Beacon Road. It is a narrow country lane with low hanging trees. I drove down there in the car once. Barely wide enough for two cars in some places
I live down by chapel lane and there is restrictions to buses and lorrys
due to the road narrowing in places
Thought as much.
Don't know how late this is making buses but Ring Rd St Georges between Wednesfield Rd and Bilston St Island is currently closed due to a Police incident.
The app said "Delays of up to 40 mins for buses leaving Wolverhampton Bus Station"
This morning just after 9am, I passed 5 907s within the space of 20 minutes between City and The Boars Head, Aldridge Road (4244, 4505, 4856, an OmniCity and another one). I was 20 minutes late here too. Traffic was horrendous, maybe related to no trains running
I even saw an Arriva 110 completely full. A full seated load on both decks and people standing all along the lower deck
The A52 alongside the A5 is a consistently late bus, I just on, 30 minutes after it was supposed to arrive ! The A51 is usually waiting when everyone leaves
This morning was the third one in a row where the traffic has been so bad on the Stratford Road through Sparkbrook that I've got off the bus and walked the rest of the way to work.
The thing is, I don't blame the bus companies, after all bad traffic is hardly their fault. But the traffic has been steadily getting worse over the last few weeks, and I'm seeing my commute time from Acocks Green to just before Camp Hill increasing from 25 minutes to 45-50 minutes. At some point in the near future it's going to be quicker if I walk all the way!
Town was chaos around half 11 this morning.
Can't think why....
nothing to do with the Queen then, or were you joking ?
7 11s in a row about 10 minutes ago on the Bromford Lane
Looks like there is a lot of trafic all along the Bromford Lane between the M6 and The Fox And Goose
4080 is at the back
All were on the 11A
1940 and 818 less than 2 minutes away from each other on the way to West Bromwich, about 30 mins ago
126 seemed all over the place this evening saw two pairs including the one I was on, what was going on?
Quote from: Dom on November 22, 2015, 06:02:16 PM
126 seemed all over the place this evening saw two pairs including the one I was on, what was going on?
Nothing changes on the 126...
Quote from: Nathan on November 22, 2015, 06:10:38 PM
Nothing changes on the 126...
You say that as if it is normal....
Hardly ever this bad and no noticeable reason along route
244 departed 15:30 to Hayley green instead of 15:15
Noticed on the app just that the Dudley to Walsall is struggling slightly with 2 due at the Parkway 4 mins after I reached the stop, then the next 2 around 20 mins later.
Still at least my friend's sister is driving the one!
33 minutes late coming off my 905 this evening due to the incident in Sutton and also another accident at Gravelly Hill a bit earlier. I was just leaving the temporary stop Victoria Road in Sutton when I should have been handing over at the Fire Station. I don't know how badly other services were affected
The 7:55 907A was running 20 minutes late earlier. It was being followed by the 8:05 907A which was right behind it. The 7:56 7 was also 20 minutes late due to 4490 developing a fault. However once it was rectified we were on the move.
All around Solihull and the airport was gridlock this evening. Did overhear the inspecter saying a driver was waiting for the 17:15 966, and another waiting for the 17:45. Both turned up at 18:35!
The annual Wednesfield Christmas lights screw up this evening. 5417 was at Ashmore Park at about 17:45 when it was due to be departing Wolverhampton Bus Station. Plenty of bunching.
The Stratford Road in the morning is getting ridiculous now! I'm setting out earlier and earlier, but my commute is still taking twice as long. This morning I got on the 08:07 37 journey from Acocks Green, and got off at Ladypool Road around 08:40am to walk the rest of the way (I'd normally get off at Auckland Road). It's getting to a point now where it is quicker for me to get off by ALDI and walk the rest of the way.
However I can't blame NX for this, but a lack of foresight by BCC for planning all these major roadworks on the ring road at the same time.
Quote from: Stu on November 26, 2015, 08:20:10 PM
The Stratford Road in the morning is getting ridiculous now! I'm setting out earlier and earlier, but my commute is still taking twice as long. This morning I got on the 08:07 37 journey from Acocks Green, and got off at Ladypool Road around 08:40am to walk the rest of the way (I'd normally get off at Auckland Road). It's getting to a point now where it is quicker for me to get off by ALDI and walk the rest of the way.
However I can't blame NX for this, but a lack of foresight by BCC for planning all these major roadworks on the ring road at the same time.
It's that bad now? I remember getting off at Aldi a couple years ago when I went to college (JC).
It's been ages since I've seen the traffic jam you're on about. I need to get an early 5/31/37 duty. I don't even see the 11 in the mornings. I usually start after 10am lol
Old Square has just cleared from around 15 minutes of been completely stuck with queuing traffic all around it. Everything is running at least in twos. 2 X51s, at least 3 93*s, 3 Sutton's, at least 3 33s.
Quote from: MW on November 26, 2015, 10:04:07 PM
It's that bad now? I remember getting off at Aldi a couple years ago when I went to college (JC).
It's been ages since I've seen the traffic jam you're on about. I need to get an early 5/31/37 duty. I don't even see the 11 in the mornings. I usually start after 10am lol
It's awful now, one day last week the queue from Camp Hill Island went back as far as Warwick Road. The 31 suffers more as it gets snarled in the queue of traffic from the Court Road/Baker Street junction down to Formans Road as well.
I think the problem is with the Haden Circus roadworks; as soon as Highgate Road gets stuck, you get all the 'rat-runners' pouring up Ladypool Road which adds to the heavy traffic already on Stratford Road, and it doesn't help as that junction is where the Stratford Road goes from two lanes to one, causing a massive bottle-neck.
I feel sorry for anyone waiting for a Stratford Road service from city after 8:30am as there must be some huge gaps in service as a result of the inbound congestion.
Quote from: John on November 28, 2015, 04:47:03 PM
Old Square has just cleared from around 15 minutes of been completely stuck with queuing traffic all around it. Everything is running at least in twos. 2 X51s, at least 3 93*s, 3 Sutton's, at least 3 33s.
I took over 20 mins late (was 10 late leaving Walsall after dropback) and just as I caught up by town I got stuck in it again! Managed to recover by Walsall wood inbound again and then spent 25 mins getting around town!
Old Square tonight was awful a continuous circle of buses not going anywhere, unable to move. At one point two or three drivers were out in the road trying to direct cars through tight gaps to try and get them to turn off down copropration street to try and get traffic moving. Took about 20 mins to get traffic flowing again.
6116 and 4426 were running together. 6116 on 141, and 4426 on 140.
The PB 54 failed to turn up
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 30, 2015, 02:39:37 PM
6116 and 4426 were running together. 6116 on 141, and 4426 on 140.
The PB 54 failed to turn up
Which 54 was that? 761 & 762 seem to have been out all day
Quote from: Tony on November 30, 2015, 03:16:02 PM
Which 54 was that? 761 & 762 seem to have been out all day
Oh, hold on a moment..
The 11:18 from Vernon avenue towards Perry barr, certain it didn't come
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 30, 2015, 03:19:32 PM
Oh, hold on a moment..
The 11:18 from Vernon avenue towards Perry barr, certain it didn't come
No you missed it. It went past that stop at 11:16:56
The driver is recorded leaving Hamstead exactly on time at 11:10:23 (due 11:10), and recorded at his next timing point, Parkside Road exactly on time at 11:20:31 (due 11:20) the university campus at 11:26:07 (due 11:26) so absolutely perfect driving by the driver to be at every timing point between 7 and 31 seconds of his appointed time
Quote from: Tony on November 30, 2015, 03:47:23 PM
No you missed it. It went past that stop at 11:16:56
The driver is recorded leaving Hamstead exactly on time at 11:10:23 (due 11:10), and recorded at his next timing point, Parkside Road exactly on time at 11:20:31 (due 11:20) the university campus at 11:26:07 (due 11:26) so absolutely perfect driving by the driver to be at every timing point between 7 and 31 seconds of his appointed time
I was there at 11:10 can you check the other bus please, it may be the other one, as I saw the one go past the opposite direction at 15 past
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 30, 2015, 03:53:21 PM
I was there at 11:10 can you check the other bus please, it may be the other one, as I saw the one go past the opposite direction at 15 past
No 762 was on the one towards Perry Barr and definitely was at that stop at 11:16:56
0740 82 from Roseville towards WN was a no show. Any reason?
Quote from: Dom on November 30, 2015, 04:00:25 PM
0740 82 from Roseville towards WN was a no show. Any reason?
4141 had to be changed. No idea for the reason why, 4565 covered from the next journey onward
Quote from: Tony on November 30, 2015, 03:55:34 PM
No 762 was on the one towards Perry Barr and definitely was at that stop at 11:16:56
It may have been Hampstead village bound then, If not I beg to differ
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 30, 2015, 04:31:40 PM
It may have been Hampstead village bound then, If not I beg to differ
I have two ways of checking where buses are, the AVL system which produces a spreadsheet which can show what time every bus was at every stop and the Traffilog system which draws a line on a map showing the route the bus took. Not sure how the format will come out but below is the spreadsheet for 54 departures between 10:00 & 12:00
Inbound Hamstead Village Vernon Avenue Parkside Rd University Campus Perry Barr One Stop
Fleet Journey RB Start Time Schedule Deviation Schedule Deviation Schedule Deviation Schedule Deviation Schedule Deviation
761 20 5402 11:40 11:40 00:06:20 11:48 00:05:32 11:50 00:05:55 11:56 00:04:03 12:06 00:03:11
762 18 5401 11:10 11:10 00:00:23 11:18 -00:01:04 11:20 00:00:31 11:26 00:00:07 11:36 00:01:23
761 16 5402 10:40 10:40 00:03:36 10:48 00:04:56 10:50 00:04:58 10:56 00:03:59 11:06 00:03:11
762 14 5401 10:10 10:10 -00:00:04 10:18 00:03:42 10:20 00:03:48 10:26 00:04:07 10:36 00:02:33
So you missed it. I've no idea how but you did
Quote from: Tony on November 30, 2015, 05:53:34 PM
I have two ways of checking where buses are, the AVL system which produces a spreadsheet which can show what time every bus was at every stop and the Traffilog system which draws a line on a map showing the route the bus took. Not sure how the format will come out but below is the spreadsheet for 54 departures between 10:00 & 12:00
Inbound Hamstead Village Vernon Avenue Parkside Rd University Campus Perry Barr One Stop
Fleet Journey RB Start Time Schedule Deviation Schedule Deviation Schedule Deviation Schedule Deviation Schedule Deviation
761 20 5402 11:40 11:40 00:06:20 11:48 00:05:32 11:50 00:05:55 11:56 00:04:03 12:06 00:03:11
762 18 5401 11:10 11:10 00:00:23 11:18 -00:01:04 11:20 00:00:31 11:26 00:00:07 11:36 00:01:23
761 16 5402 10:40 10:40 00:03:36 10:48 00:04:56 10:50 00:04:58 10:56 00:03:59 11:06 00:03:11
762 14 5401 10:10 10:10 -00:00:04 10:18 00:03:42 10:20 00:03:48 10:26 00:04:07 10:36 00:02:33
So you missed it. I've no idea how but you did
As I say I have no idea how I missed it at all.
I do you turned up after the bus had gone
@Tony Does your magic computer tell you how fast a bus is travelling?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 30, 2015, 09:13:34 PM
@Tony Does your magic computer tell you how fast a bus is travelling?
If he has access to TraffiLog. Yes.
But its not something he'll discuss here. Not when jobs are at stake.
Ok i will pm him!
City centre appears to be a bus park atm.
Just saw two 66's leaving through Aston Uni near enough in convoy
Quote from: Kevin on December 01, 2015, 01:00:41 PM
City centre appears to be a bus park atm.
Just saw two 66's leaving through Aston Uni near enough in convoy
Strange, I'm watching the CCTV at the moment and apart from a police incident in Bull Street/High Street there are no problems in the City Centre
Quote from: Tony on December 01, 2015, 01:24:13 PM
Strange, I'm watching the CCTV at the moment and apart from a police incident in Bull Street/High Street there are no problems in the City Centre
Count how many times buses get blocked because of motorists can't read 'Keep Clear' at the opening of St. Martins tunnel!!
Quote from: Tony on December 01, 2015, 01:24:13 PM
Strange, I'm watching the CCTV at the moment and apart from a police incident in Bull Street/High Street there are no problems in the City Centre
looked like they closed off Dale End as I saw 2 63's, a 5, a 6 & a 31 come up Bull Street along Corporation Street around Old Square down The Priory Queensway then back onto normal route. Also around Old Square island there was a queue of varied routes trying to get either down Corporation Street towards the Children's Hospital or down The Priory Queensway. The Dale End incident was cleared by 13:20ish not sure what it was I saw it from the top of Bull Street about 1ish as I nearly got flattened by 1 of the 63's I saw lol.
311 & 313 knackered again.
And one has just run out of service past me at the Parkway.
(If Im not mistaken, my friend's sister was driving it!)
Someone is having a laff on the 311 & 313.
8 mins & Ive been waiting since roughly 1710!
Something's going on in Dudley tonight, gridlock everywhere even in places that are usually okay
Just got one.
An hour for a 10 mins freq. service.
Quote from: Westy on December 01, 2015, 06:15:09 PM
Just got one.
An hour for a 10 mins freq. service.
Email I received about 45 min ago
At present we are suffering severe delays on all services operating
Dudley Bus Station with delays in excess of 60 mins.
Dudley town is completely gridlocked, with no apparent reason.
@Tony explains why the 82 is doing shite currently
Quote from: Tony on December 01, 2015, 06:25:06 PM
Email I received about 45 min ago
At present we are suffering severe delays on all services operating
Dudley Bus Station with delays in excess of 60 mins.
Dudley town is completely gridlocked, with no apparent reason.
Is there anywhere that puts up similar info online?
Havent got to sign up to Twitter have I?
Quote from: Westy on December 01, 2015, 08:19:41 PM
Is there anywhere that puts up similar info online?
Havent got to sign up to Twitter have I?
No.
Any relevant social media feeds are never updated at the right time. The BBC website is also a pain to use on a phone.
Would the tram be any use to you?
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on December 01, 2015, 09:09:03 PM
No.
Any relevant social media feeds are never updated at the right time. The BBC website is also a pain to use on a phone.
Would the tram be any use to you?
Not really, as I need to go to Walsall.
Quote from: Tony on December 01, 2015, 06:25:06 PM
Email I received about 45 min ago
At present we are suffering severe delays on all services operating
Dudley Bus Station with delays in excess of 60 mins.
Dudley town is completely gridlocked, with no apparent reason.
Basically, cars were using Fisher street and Birmingham street by the car park despite there being a sign stating 'buses, taxis and licensed private hire' and instead of leaving space for buses to turn into the station they were parking across the entrance. To make things worse a van broke down in the bus lane. Same again tonight probably.
Quote from: Westy on December 02, 2015, 06:22:43 AM
Not really, as I need to go to Walsall.
Wednesbury to west brom on the tram. 4 to Walsall.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on December 02, 2015, 11:51:45 AM
Wednesbury to west brom on the tram. 4 to Walsall.
Might as well walk to Great Bridge from where I am.
Fingers crossed, should have a lift to Aldi Moxley tonight!
Quote from: Westy on December 02, 2015, 12:50:13 PM
Might as well walk to Great Bridge from where I am.
Fingers crossed, should have a lift to Aldi Moxley tonight!
Just food for thought. But hopefully not the delays of yesterday.
X51 not looking great atm.
Got to the children's hospital stop on time for the 18:15 ex city. 20 mins later still here, seen at least one of every other service that stops here go past so traffic can't be that bad otherwise they'd all be affected
Tower Hill this morning
07:07 X51 about 8 late so just missed it
07:17 X51 described as "6mins" on real time, turned up with the next one at nearly 7:40
Junction 7 must be bad this morning
2205 + 2240 running together on 72 towards Solihull
2225 + 2243 running together on 71 towards Solihull
Both seen from Sunny Travel Dart V895DNB heading to Chelmsley Wood @ 09:25
Two 4M (1768 and an Omnilink) running in convoy through West Brom northbound 19:10
I was just 30 minutes late reaching Minworth this afternoon. Left City with the 904 20 minutes behind where I should have been, and he got to Minworth a good 5 minutes before me. He left just as I got there, and then ran dead to City (I was only expecting run dead to Erdington or The Yenton as there was more than enough time to run dead to relief
2 82's running together bad traffic Oxford Street and loxdale Street
The 07:02 8C from Highgate road today was either really early or really late, I cannot see the reason why it would be earlier then 06:56 as I got to the stop then.
Quote from: Ronnoc on December 14, 2015, 04:07:31 PM
The 07:02 8C from Highgate road today was either really early or really late, I cannot see the reason why it would be earlier then 06:56 as I got to the stop then.
Maybe it was adjusted due to traffic to renter service elsewhere, or maybe there was no driver. You guys never consider that in this thread. These two scenarios are more common than you think, in my experience anyway.
Yesterday's evening X56 was 25 mins late.
Something must have been up on the 10 because all the other X51's in town were running fairly on time (for rush hour)
244 13:56 from Halesowen to Dudley. FTO
82's are fully screwed today
Sutton's and Walsall Express' are all running late. Was just on 4919 on the 902 which was 20 minutes late!
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 18, 2015, 02:10:03 PM
244 13:56 from Halesowen to Dudley. FTO
Another incorrect post.
There's a 13:57 Halesowen to Dudley 244 which ran at 1402, 5 later so did operate
Must be a problem on the 311/313 again as the next bus at the Parkway is 5 mins then the next one is 25 mins, according to the app!
(Unless the app is still bost!)
Quote from: Westy on December 18, 2015, 05:08:11 PM
Must be a problem on the 311/313 again as the next bus at the Parkway is 5 mins then the next one is 25 mins, according to the app!
(Unless the app is still bost!)
At least you'll have Thandi as an option soon.
West Brom gridlocked again this afternoon. When I got there I took a picture of 1949 trying to enter the Bus Station at 2.34pm. It never exited until 3.25pm. The parking area was full, including an Enviro200 parked behind the row in the bus lanes. I don't know how you West Brom drivers cope with it! Not helped woth people ignoring the no access by the old Art Gallery, and cars (and even some buses) blocking the keep clear markings by the 74 Dudley stop
All services were at least in twos, and E workings galore and dead running
Quote from: John on December 18, 2015, 05:25:54 PM
West Brom gridlocked again this afternoon. When I got there I took a picture of 1949 trying to enter the Bus Station at 2.34pm. It never exited until 3.25pm. The parking area was full, including an Enviro200 parked behind the row in the bus lanes. I don't know how you West Brim drivers cope with it! Not helped woth people ignoring the no access by the old Art Gallery, and cars (and even some buses) blocking the keep clear markings by the 74 Dudley stop
All services were at least in twos, and E workings galore and dead running
That explains why there were four 5's in a pack earlier!
Quote from: Michael Bevan on December 18, 2015, 03:56:29 PM
Sutton's and Walsall Express' are all running late. Was just on 4919 on the 902 which was 20 minutes late!
I had got off 4114 by Asda Queslett, and had missed 2 997s heading back to Birmingham running together. The realtime info and the App both said 33 minutes till the next one. So we decided to walk home, and by Aldridge/Dyas Road junction, 3 passed all together heading to Pheasey (2 E's and a Walsall 997)
Plus most of the 1s in Wolverhampton this afternoon were running in twos, in both directions
Quote from: Tony on December 18, 2015, 04:45:33 PM
Another incorrect post.
There's a 13:57 Halesowen to Dudley 244 which ran at 1402, 5 later so did operate
Did it miss out Hayley green?
Quote from: John on December 18, 2015, 05:25:54 PM
West Brom gridlocked again this afternoon. When I got there I took a picture of 1949 trying to enter the Bus Station at 2.34pm. It never exited until 3.25pm. The parking area was full, including an Enviro200 parked behind the row in the bus lanes. I don't know how you West Brim drivers cope with it! Not helped woth people ignoring the no access by the old Art Gallery, and cars (and even some buses) blocking the keep clear markings by the 74 Dudley stop
All services were at least in twos, and E workings galore and dead running
Something really ought to be done about this, just seen a news article about it all Midlands Today aswell!
Quote from: John on December 18, 2015, 05:25:54 PM
West Brom gridlocked again this afternoon. When I got there I took a picture of 1949 trying to enter the Bus Station at 2.34pm. It never exited until 3.25pm. The parking area was full, including an Enviro200 parked behind the row in the bus lanes. I don't know how you West Brim drivers cope with it! Not helped woth people ignoring the no access by the old Art Gallery, and cars (and even some buses) blocking the keep clear markings by the 74 Dudley stop
All services were at least in twos, and E workings galore and dead running
@John we don't :) we are fed up of it happening. every day for the last 2 weeks now the bus station has ground to a halt. i am dreading next week but all we can do is keep putting timed tickets in and book the overtime.
Quote from: wbdriver on December 18, 2015, 06:58:36 PM
@John we don't :) we are fed up of it happening. every day for the last 2 weeks now the bus station has ground to a halt. i am dreading next week but all we can do is keep putting timed tickets in and book the overtime.
Hearing this, really not looking to commuting back from West Brom everyday from sixth form from September!
Plenty of late running on WN routes as expected with many finishing for Christmas etc.
59's running in bunches of 3's this afternoon. Two 69's seen running together through Wednesfield earlier too.
Quote from: Nathan on December 18, 2015, 07:56:41 PM
Plenty of late running on WN routes as expected with many finishing for Christmas etc.
59's running in bunches of 3's this afternoon. Two 69's seen running together through Wednesfield earlier too.
The last Friday before Xmas is always bad, I just missed a 22 and a 23 in the city this evening and within seconds 2 more turned up along with 2 24s.
Dudley and Merry Hill were flowing pretty normally this afternoon. Did I get back before the fun started?
Quote from: WN on December 18, 2015, 05:09:41 PM
At least you'll have Thandi as an option soon.
Really? First I've heard about it.
Not much use with my Faresaver though!
Don't suppose my Pay As You Go Swift will be any use will it?
Quote from: Westy on December 18, 2015, 11:01:57 PM
Really? First I've heard about it.
Not much use with my Faresaver though!
Don't suppose my Pay As You Go Swift will be any use will it?
Yup. 23rd Feb IIRC.
Yes Thandi accept Swift PAYG.
Yesterday evening apparently a crash on the Queensway somewhere. Traffic in Brum around 6pm was a nightmare. Caught the 17:55 X51 it took 20 mins to get from Bull Street to Lancaster Circus
Been waiting 2 and a half hours for a 61 and it still hasn't turned up. Going to write to my MP about this!
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on December 25, 2015, 12:24:35 PM
Been waiting 2 and a half hours for a 61 and it still hasn't turned up. Going to write to my MP about this!
:) Was tempted to put a post like this.
The wb 45 has been terrible to day waited nearly 35 mins for a bus then 2 turned up 1949 (crimson) and 19++ then the other one on be on view road went nis and the 3 passenger got on my bus
16:55 529 ex wolves seems to be missing, been waiting in Willenhall for it and something was tracking on the real time app around the time it should have been, but then disappeared
Seems most services in Walsall were struggling today. Saw a 4M from Merry Hill to Blackheath and a 313E running short from Dudley to Wednesbury
Traffic in town awful this afternoon from Lancaster Circus down to Park Street. Before the Dale End diversion was used it took me nearly 20 minutes to get through City. Everywhere else was quiet though.
The 914 half hour behind caught me up and overtook at the Bagot heading to Sutton on my third trip. I was 40 late then as he told me he was 10 late. I finally got into Sutton as he left, but I was bursting so had to run up to McDonalds to use the loo. I quickly tried to phone the garage and pressed the late button. The traffic office line was busy, so I had to continue, getting into the Uni relief stop a few minutes after the other 914 (which was my bus for my second half) and was waiting for me!
The next driver of my first bus and the driver I was taking over from put all the passengers onto the bus I had just came off, and I stayed there and phoned the garage again as I would have over driving hours. I was told to carry on to Sutton and phone back there. The bus I had just come off was loading at the Square Peg so I never stopped. Luckily loadings were very quiet so made up a bit of time. I had my 30 minutes RTI break then, the 914 running 40 minutes late ran dead to City when he reached Sutton , so there was a 90 minute gap in the service from Sutton (at that point there was only one bus left running as I was on a break and the late one was running dead). I walked round to McDonalds to get some food, and there was loads of people waiting, some I guess for more than an hour. I then was told to run dead to City for my last trip (within 15 minutes), so left around 8 minutes late then
I apologise for rambling on a bit, but I'm done now ;D
Quote from: Kevin on December 28, 2015, 05:35:26 PM
16:55 529 ex wolves seems to be missing, been waiting in Willenhall for it and something was tracking on the real time app around the time it should have been, but then disappeared
Seems most services in Walsall were struggling today. Saw a 4M from Merry Hill to Blackheath and a 313E running short from Dudley to Wednesbury
I did a half day today, but luckily I had a lift there & back, especially as I was supposed to be in for 9 over Wednesbury.
Quote from: John on December 28, 2015, 08:08:28 PM
Traffic in town awful this afternoon from Lancaster Circus down to Park Street. Before the Dale End diversion was used it took me nearly 20 minutes to get through City. Everywhere else was quiet though.
The 914 half hour behind caught me up and overtook at the Bagot heading to Sutton on my third trip. I was 40 late then as he told me he was 10 late. I finally got into Sutton as he left, but I was bursting so had to run up to McDonalds to use the loo. I quickly tried to phone the garage and pressed the late button. The traffic office line was busy, so I had to continue, getting into the Uni relief stop a few minutes after the other 914 (which was my bus for my second half) and was waiting for me!
The next driver of my first bus and the driver I was taking over from put all the passengers onto the bus I had just came off, and I stayed there and phoned the garage again as I would have over driving hours. I was told to carry on to Sutton and phone back there. The bus I had just come off was loading at the Square Peg so I never stopped. Luckily loadings were very quiet so made up a bit of time. I had my 30 minutes RTI break then, the 914 running 40 minutes late ran dead to City when he reached Sutton , so there was a 90 minute gap in the service from Sutton (at that point there was only one bus left running as I was on a break and the late one was running dead). I walked round to McDonalds to get some food, and there was loads of people waiting, some I guess for more than an hour. I then was told to run dead to City for my last trip (within 15 minutes), so left around 8 minutes late then
I apologise for rambling on a bit, but I'm done now ;D
Sounds like you had a fun day then! Think it was you I saw loading by the square peg and there was loads waiting to get on!
I lost 10 mins in the traffic in town so my 937a was late but I had a decent amount of drop back so recovered
4588 and 4572 within minutes of each other on WN25.
2 97a services, one behind the other, both heading for the airport. The second one is a b7. No wonder the supposed 4/5 minute frequency on the 97 is more like 15/20 minutes most of the time.
Quote from: WMT3000 on January 15, 2016, 02:16:44 PM
2 97a services, one behind the other, both heading for the airport. The second one is a b7. No wonder the supposed 4/5 minute frequency on the 97 is more like 15/20 minutes most of the time.
Their might have been some traffic related problems, the 97 is my closest route and quite frequent at the best of times.
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on January 15, 2016, 03:08:12 PM
Their might have been some traffic related problems, the 97 is my closest route and quite frequent at the best of times.
I quite agree that it's a very good service when running well. It's just annoying when the buses get bunched together which seems to happen a lot on the 97 compared to other routes. I often have to wait a long time for one when on lunch from work (I just go a few stops to chelmsley wood). To be fair, I think it's probably quite a difficult route to keep to time on due to the traffic and the number of junctions/sets of traffic lights and judging by recent experiences the number of passengers who argue with the driver over fares.
18:12 66 from Star City is either half an hour late or missing.
865 seemed not to be tracking today. Got excited because I thought it may be 757 but was merely dissapointed.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 19, 2016, 06:58:27 PM
865 seemed not to be tracking today. Got excited because I thought it may be 757 but was merely dissapointed.
757 was tracking.
Quote from: WN on January 19, 2016, 07:02:30 PM
757 was tracking.
Vehicles on loan to another garage cannot show on real time information or the APP
2227 & 2235 running within 2 minutes of each other on 71 to Sutton Coldfield seen at Ulleries Road/Hobs Moat Road Junction at 09:30.
Got the 31 this morning which left Acocks Green towards city bang on time at 08:17, but due to some particularly horrific traffic all along the Stratford Road, didn't get me to Auckland Road until approx 09:10, so was about half an hour down :-[
Quote from: Stu on January 20, 2016, 06:56:08 PM
Got the 31 this morning which left Acocks Green towards city bang on time at 08:17, but due to some particularly horrific traffic all along the Stratford Road, didn't get me to Auckland Road until approx 09:10, so was about half an hour down :-[
Because someone threatening suicide on the Middle Ring Road closed that road causing chaos over most of South Birmingham
Quote from: Tony on January 20, 2016, 08:10:36 PM
Because someone threatening suicide on the Middle Ring Road closed that road causing chaos over most of South Birmingham
Just read about that elsewhere, very sad to hear, but what was more sad were some of the hurtful comments being posted on social media. Just goes to show what a load of selfish heartless wankers there are out there (not directed at those with suicidal thoughts, but those who find it all terribly inconvenient) :-\
The 15:05 number 3 bus to Birmingham Carrs Lane at Yardley Wood road never seemed to show up.
The incident in Shirley has delayed all services in the area badly
2 244s in convoy at 14:15 in halesowen
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 21, 2016, 08:08:28 PM
2 244s in convoy at 14:15 in halesowen
9s in chaos this afternoon, lorry stuck under a bridge between Stourbridge and Lye!
Spotted two 11As running together about half an hour ago near the fox and goose, unusual to see them bunching at this time
2 82's with about a minute between them passing Loxdale just
Wednesday and Thursday Morning on the Suttons have been really bad. Both days I have been running over 20 minutes late, I left Minworth on the 904 with the one behind both mornings on my last trip in on my first portion.
Wednesday, I was adjusted to do Minworth - Sutton only and dead to relief (Should have left City at 9am on this one, but left at 9.32am), but still 15 minutes late coming off, so meant that I was RTI'd with less than 30 minutes break, so I had to take over the 914 heading out of City rather than in to get a break over 30 minutes.
Yesterday, the Expressway wasn't as bad as Wednesday, but still busy, especially heading out of City (8.08am 904, left after 8.30am), again left Minworth with the 904 20 minutes behind me, we helped each other out back to City. RTI'd again, only a 20 minutes break before the 2nd portion, so I was told to take over, run a 905 outbound, then run a 905E to Sutton, and have 30 minutes there. Then run dead to relief to finish, 15 minutes late finishing yesterday.
I had this duty again today, and was only 7 minutes late coming off the first portion, so it was a lot better today, and finished bang on time ;)
Anything using the ring road in Stourbridge will be late today, unexpected roadworks have closed 2 lanes. Traffic already backed up to the bottom of brettle lane.
Last 51 (01:02) eventually turned up about half past...
Most people had given up and phoned taxis
Quote from: Kevin on January 24, 2016, 01:27:08 AM
Last 51 (01:02) eventually turned up about half past...
Most people had given up and phoned taxis
Surprised the driver wouldnt have been over his hours by then?
Quote from: Westy on January 24, 2016, 09:03:29 AM
Surprised the driver wouldnt have been over his hours by then?
Didn't ask him why he was late, all I know it could have been a last minute panic find a driver and send a bus out because the previous driver was over hours. Has happened before with the X56 a few years ago, when there was a couple of short trips in the evening the one driver was persuaded to do the full route because the previous hadn't turned up
824? 865?
244 route
I imagine most North Birmingham services are running quite late this morning due to the fatal accident on the M6. I'm not in today so don't know how bad it is. I have heard that a 67 driver was over 90 minutes late this morning
The 67 has been entering Castle Vale the back way from Kingsbury Road to avoid traffic on the Chester Road
The worst seems to be 904/914 - 2 hours 20 mins delay according to nxwm Twitter!
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on February 04, 2016, 11:16:31 AM
The worst seems to be 904/914 - 2 hours 20 mins delay according to nxwm Twitter!
A few services are delayed due to the M6 closure
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on February 04, 2016, 11:16:31 AM
The worst seems to be 904/914 - 2 hours 20 mins delay according to nxwm Twitter!
The 8.08am 904 from City got to Minworth at 11.50am. At least 2 hours late!
6703 currently one hour late on the 900 due to traffic.
I'm reading that the motorway is still closed now and will be till around 10pm. Does anyone know how bad traffic is, and how the buses are running?
There were some big queues for the services heading east from Priory Queensway when I left work at half five, and I overheard a group of drivers discussing how services were all over the place as I walked past.
I heard that one of the 94 drivers was 3 hours late coming off last night (9pm when it should have been 6pm). I do know that it took someone in a car nearly 6 hours to get back to Great Barr from Coventry yesterday afternoon
Quote from: John on February 05, 2016, 12:05:02 PM
I heard that one of the 94 drivers was 3 hours late coming off last night (9pm when it should have been 6pm). I do know that it took someone in a car nearly 6 hours to get back to Great Barr from Coventry yesterday afternoon
Apparently the 97/Cov Rd routes many hours late last evening too
@John
Just got a call off a mate who's been waiting 45 mins on Slade road for a 65
I coped all of the Falcon Lodge school kids this afternoon on the 904. I thought I'd just miss them but they must leave earlier on a Friday! I managed to get rid of most of them in Sutton but was full and standing leaving with more. 10 minutes of queuing up the Birmingham Road, finally came off 36 minutes late, and had 2 minutes break before my 914 turned up! Had my 30 minutes RTI break in Sutton and then had around 15 mintues to get to City dead to re-enter service. Was 8 minutes late leaving City but had to so the 914 diversion 3 times so finally got back into garage over 20 minutes late tonight
335 and 336 in Walsall Bus station at the same time
The 21:00 900 to Coventry didn't get to Birmingham international until 21:55 this evening!
Currently stuck on the A34 overpass as there has been an accident under Perry Barr Island. So everything is using the island to get through. Traffic is backing up nearly to Aston Six Ways, I imagine its the same coming the other way into City
Its just been reopened heading into City but we are still stuck coming out towards Perry Barr
2 244s together heading for Hayley green at 15:35
6102,6110,6121 all in convoy on 9
The 907 due to leave City at 1255 (4475) left City at 1303, not that bad but once we got to Wellhead Lane, the drivers changed and the new driver wouldn't move due to a spillage on the floor, so we waited for the next 907 while staying on the bus, the 1315 from city didn't turn up at all with no explanation from the garage when I phoned up, so after a wait of 35 minutes we got on 4781. This means 2 out of the 5 buses on the 907 were not running, that's 40% !!!.
This used to be a good service but it's been just left to rot, inspectors on Lower Bull Street have been tearing their hair out, one of them said a few weeks ago "Don't talk to me about the 907" !!! but not in a nasty way. He was just as frustrated as all of us at the bus stop.
I know this is not the place to make complaints but I and many others have made several complaints via there website and phone calls but no change !!!
Quote from: Steve3229vp on February 19, 2016, 05:07:40 PM
The 907 due to leave City at 1255 (4475) left City at 1303, not that bad but once we got to Wellhead Lane, the drivers changed and the new driver wouldn't move due to a spillage on the floor, so we waited for the next 907 while staying on the bus, the 1315 from city didn't turn up at all with no explanation from the garage when I phoned up, so after a wait of 35 minutes we got on 4781. This means 2 out of the 5 buses on the 907 were not running, that's 40% !!!.
This used to be a good service but it's been just left to rot, inspectors on Lower Bull Street have been tearing their hair out, one of them said a few weeks ago "Don't talk to me about the 907" !!! but not in a nasty way. He was just as frustrated as all of us at the bus stop.
I know this is not the place to make complaints but I and many others have made several complaints via there website and phone calls but no change !!!
4280 was on the 907 too
There was 2 907s together in City later in the afternoon around 4pm. 4500 and another 449* Gemini. It is a nice route to drive when you are on time, but if you start to fall behind, then it is very hard to make up time
4 11Cs all arrived into Acocks Green together. The last one changed into NIS as it went round the island. No dought the roadworks on Brookvale Road holding them up amongst other things en-route
Problems with the Expressway this morning. We were using Lichfield Road inbound, but I was still 30 minutes late on the 914 this morning. Should have left City at 9.07am, never left until after 9.37am
I got turned round at Falcon Lodge on that trip as the 914 behind had caught me up. Then I was only 10 late, but as I was loading in Falcon Lodge, then one that should have been 20 minutes in front pulled in behind (so he was half an hour late there too). We zig-zagged round each other picking up passengers, then he ran dead from Walmley giving me his passengers. Only come off 7 minutes late so not that bad.
Quote from: John on February 22, 2016, 12:00:39 PM
Problems with the Expressway this morning. We were using Lichfield Road inbound, but I was still 30 minutes late on the 914 this morning. Should have left City at 9.07am, never left until after 9.37am
I got turned round at Falcon Lodge on that trip as the 914 behind had caught me up. Then I was only 10 late, but as I was loading in Falcon Lodge, then one that should have been 20 minutes in front pulled in behind (so he was half an hour late there too). We zig-zagged round each other picking up passengers, then he ran dead from Walmley giving me his passengers. Only come off 7 minutes late so not that bad.
Due to a little van (possibly one of Centro's bus shelter cleaning vans) breaking down in the Queensway Tunnel under Paradise Circus causing delays all the way back up the M6 to Walsall
864,866 in convoy on 244 any reason?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 23, 2016, 04:16:02 PM
864,866 in convoy on 244 any reason?
roadworks haden hill by fire station
Quote from: karl724223 on February 23, 2016, 04:26:23 PM
roadworks haden hill by fire station
20 minute delays though? Really?
2239/2241/2210 running together in this order on the 71 towards Solihull seen by Land Rover, Solihull at 09:30 while aboard 4609 on the 73 heading back to Sheldon
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 23, 2016, 06:24:17 PM
20 minute delays though? Really?
on radio traffic at mucklow hill island going towards haden hill because of the road works
Despatch forgot to hand out magic wands
The 997s still seem to be suffering now, I guess due to the accident on the Birmingham Road this morning. Two running together as I got on by the College, and two the other way as well. There was also quite a few Platinum buses leaving Birmingham Not In Service, as well as other Walsal buses, as well as 51s running together.
Might be something to do with 4143 broken down in Stourbridge earlier, but when I got to Wolves about half 3 on the 256 the stop was rammed and 4139 parked there displaying 255 but no driver on board.
4139 left wolves in service about 5 mins before the next 255
Lots of 87 running in2 or 3 and some going nis out of dudley
Also a couple of 74E aswell
801 left the City Centre 20 minutes late at about 12:40 today.
3 Presidents within about a minute heading through Pheasey on the 5 just now
Quote from: Kevin on March 05, 2016, 05:54:13 PM
3 Presidents within about a minute heading through Pheasey on the 5 just now
The traffic at New Oscott was worse than ever today. Most of the 907s running in twos, I was adjusted Sutton to City on my first trip this afternoon. Some took more than 20 minutes to get through
4260 and 4295 in convoy on WA 89! Just saw them in Shelfield towards Wolverhampton.
Quote from: P419 EJW on April 04, 2016, 06:50:58 PM
4260 and 4295 in convoy on WA 89! Just saw them in Shelfield towards Wolverhampton.
Due to Walsall coming to a complete stand still and everything moving really slow, queue of 4s waiting to come into Bradford Place
I was 20 mins late at one point but recoevered it and finished 2 mins late :)
Quote from: BU07 LGO on April 04, 2016, 08:02:24 PM
I was 20 mins late at one point but recoevered it and finished 2 mins late :)
Did you get out of walsall ok
@BU07 LGO, i know you only managed to get to walsall on time
Quote from: Chris on April 04, 2016, 08:20:06 PM
Did you get out of walsall ok @BU07 LGO, i know you only managed to get to walsall on time
Was a nightmare took 30 mins to get to Barr Beacon crossroads! Lukcily there was enough dropback and it was quiet
Quote from: BU07 LGO on April 04, 2016, 08:20:59 PM
Was a nightmare took 30 mins to get to Barr Beacon crossroads! Lukcily there was enough dropback and it was quiet
How fast did you go?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 04, 2016, 08:40:50 PM
How fast did you go?
The correct speed limits, as he said it was quiet and had a decent amount of dropback
I caught the Thandi 311 & it was a crawl from J9 onwards.
Driver kicked us all off at the Midland Road junction, as he couldnt access Bradford Place!
One sister, traveling from West Brom, got stuck at Caldmore on a 4, while other sister, who lives in West Brom informed me via Facebook, that West Brom was rammed. (Nothing new!)
For the record, I left work at 440 & didnt get home until around 620!
Quote from: Dom on April 04, 2016, 08:55:55 PM
The correct speed limits, as he said it was quiet and had a decent amount of dropback
Exactly! It's not worth speeding when everything's recorded! There was 15 min drop back in Sutton and a 5 had picked everybody up from beggars bush to Sutton so did that section in half the time I was given and struck lucky with the lights! Then I saw John parked on a 914!
Quote from: BU07 LGO on April 05, 2016, 08:31:05 AM
Exactly! It's not worth speeding when everything's recorded! There was 15 min drop back in Sutton and a 5 had picked everybody up from beggars bush to Sutton so did that section in half the time I was given and struck lucky with the lights! Then I saw John parked on a 914!
Bet you were gutted to get 4869!
Quote from: Westy on April 04, 2016, 09:53:51 PM
I caught the Thandi 311 & it was a crawl from J9 onwards.
Driver kicked us all off at the Midland Road junction, as he couldnt access Bradford Place!
One sister, traveling from West Brom, got stuck at Caldmore on a 4, while other sister, who lives in West Brom informed me via Facebook, that West Brom was rammed. (Nothing new!)
For the record, I left work at 440 & didnt get home until around 620!
My 4M left at 17.30 (due out at 17.15), got to Merry Hill for around 18.50, which is not bad considering Caldmore was very slow moving, tbh getting passed Caldmore and pretty much smooth sailing albeit the consistently full bus all the way to blackheath and and half full between there and Merry Hill
Why are 243/244 consistently late?
I passed two 28's (WN) within 5 minutes of each other at lunchtime. The service is half hourly.
Roll on next week (from the 11th) when the Riland Road railway bridge shuts the road. We are already running late this week due to the Gravelly Hill diversion (on till the 16th). So with both of these affecting us next week don't expect many of the Sutton Lines buses to be on time!
Well the 19.38 x96 from stourbridge didn't show...
Quote from: John on April 05, 2016, 08:34:40 AM
Bet you were gutted to get 4869!
Yeah I was a bit I had a 935 and 934 trip before and had 4870 for that which seems to have got really quick with age! (It's on 208000 miles) but 4869 seemed sluggish (that's only done 194k)
Keep seeing you in Sutton but at last minute so sorry if you think I'm been ignorant!
4 37s (4534, 4638 and 4530) have all just left High Street together. With 2210 waiting time
Not NX, but 6.15pm, I passed 3 Arriva 110s heading out of Birmingham within a few minutes of each other. One on Gravelly Hill and two coming off the Expressway.
The 126 seem very much screwed for some reason this afternoon. Here is the real time info on the app from Bank Street (Birmingham New Road).
The 89 seemed messed up this afternoon due to terrible traffic along on the Lichfield Road towards Walsall. I was on 4295 on 89, departed Wolverhampton at 14:19, I arrived Walsall around 16:00. It wasn't pleasant because the bus was full of school kids. :( Longest 89 I've ever had.
Quote from: P419 EJW on April 15, 2016, 08:30:11 PM
The 89 seemed messed up this afternoon due to terrible traffic along on the Lichfield Road towards Walsall. I was on 4295 on 89, departed Wolverhampton at 14:19, I arrived Walsall around 16:00. It wasn't pleasant because the bus was full of school kids. :( Longest 89 I've ever had.
Is the 89 ever on time?
Did anyone ask for it to be split in the review?
Quote from: Westy on April 15, 2016, 09:48:46 PM
Is the 89 ever on time?
Did anyone ask for it to be split in the review?
From my observations, during the day when it's not so busy, the 89 is usually punctual. Naturally when it comes to peak times, the 89 will be likely to be late like other bus services.
3 45s have not long arrived in Walsall together. 4265 left NIS, maybe the 1.45pm departure. 1936 and 4250 then both left together at 2.17pm
The number 3 service to the city centre that arrives at 15:04 at Tritiford road (running board 02/06 I think) has had a series of late runnings, getting up to 12 minutes late. Why is this?
Quote from: Ronnoc on April 22, 2016, 03:41:24 PM
The number 3 service to the city centre that arrives at 15:04 at Tritiford road (running board 02/06 I think) has had a series of late runnings, getting up to 12 minutes late. Why is this?
Because none of YW's tridents yet have the ability to go over the top of queueing traffic.
It is not 2-06, that is due in City at 15:06
2 244s in convoy or an e200 on 241?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 22, 2016, 04:06:58 PM
2 244s in convoy or an e200 on 241?
Roadworks Quarry Bank !!
Quote from: pndriver on April 22, 2016, 04:30:20 PM
Roadworks Quarry Bank !!
Please explain how one bus is on time and another 20 minutes late, when going through same traffic?
Adjustments, traffic, any number of things that end up make convoys
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 22, 2016, 04:33:22 PM
Please explain how one bus is on time and another 20 minutes late, when going through same traffic?
Did a bus turn up? Yes so stop complaining! If a service failed to run okay have your little moan but the service ran so be happy you had a bus!
With one bus running late he gets to pick up double passengers so bus number two picks up less passengers catching bus number one up simple also driver one has more passengers on so he is driving slower driver two will have less passengers on so he can go a bit faster within the legal road speed of course
@Dom
Quote from: karl724223 on April 22, 2016, 05:32:38 PM
With one bus running late he gets to pick up double passengers so bus number two picks up less passengers catching bus number one up simple also driver one has more passengers on so he is driving slower driver two will have less passengers on so he can go a bit faster within the legal road speed of course @Dom
HAHA!
Quote from: John on April 22, 2016, 02:27:44 PM
3 45s have not long arrived in Walsall together. 4265 left NIS, maybe the 1.45pm departure. 1936 and 4250 then both left together at 2.17pm
Presumably connected to this chain of tweets...
https://twitter.com/nxwestmidlands/status/723508593899782146
An accident has shut the A34 overpass in both directions by Trinity Road. The X51 I've got on at Scott Arms has turned around here heading out of Birmingham and is about to head back now , followed by 2 more to Walsall. I don't know if it's still shut now, but seen pictures from 2.45pm and the traffic was backed up past Perry Barr, and I imagine the other direction is just as bad
Also seen 2 MMCs running dead out to Walsall/Pheasey
It's open and clear now into City but outbound is at a standstill
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/drivers-miracle-escape-after-five-11231465
Quote from: notepanel on April 22, 2016, 08:21:01 PM
Presumably connected to this chain of tweets...
https://twitter.com/nxwestmidlands/status/723508593899782146
Surely the driver of the bus could see that he couldn't get through, so why block the road for other road users. I agree that the cars shouldn't have been parked in that position but surely common sense from the bus driver says don't attempt to get through and block the road.
Quote from: notepanel on April 22, 2016, 08:21:01 PM
Presumably connected to this chain of tweets...
https://twitter.com/nxwestmidlands/status/723508593899782146
Looking at that picture I'm sure it could've fit through if they approached at the more acute angle from the offside.
It'll be tight, but I'm sure its doable.
Obviously without actually being there none of us are any the wiser.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on April 24, 2016, 01:34:58 AM
Looking at that picture I'm sure it could've fit through if they approached at the more acute angle from the offside.
It'll be tight, but I'm sure its doable.
Obviously without actually being there none of us are any the wiser.
But would you want to risk getting sacked? As if he crashed the bus then the company would say it's his fault for attempting it. I honestly think he made the right decision not attempting it (apart from blocking the entire road as he could have parked it up).
Quote from: Michael Bevan on April 24, 2016, 07:54:38 AM
But would you want to risk getting sacked? As if he crashed the bus then the company would say it's his fault for attempting it. I honestly think he made the right decision not attempting it (apart from blocking the entire road as he could have parked it up).
It's deceptive sometimes, you think you can get through so move out then decide against it once you get into position
Surely what he should of done is pull out earlier so he can go through straight. It looks (I SAY LOOKS!) that if he was going straight through he would get through.
Quote from: Dom on April 24, 2016, 08:22:13 AM
Surely what he should of done is pull out earlier so he can go through straight. It looks (I SAY LOOKS!) that if he was going straight through he would get through.
You don't know what was the other side though, could have been another car?
Don't expect any city services to run anywhere near timetable today. 10k run diversion has been in place half an hour and already Lancaster Circus is chaos
Quote from: Kevin on May 01, 2016, 10:04:07 AM
Don't expect any city services to run anywhere near timetable today. 10k run diversion has been in place half an hour and already Lancaster Circus is chaos
As ever on days like this lol
Mother & sister have gone to Bon Marche, to return stuff.
I advised sister, 'Why don't you go via West Brom instead & use the Metro, instead of the X51', as Mother cant walk far thesedays & X51 stops right outside normally, but it won't today will it!
Answer was no!
I was right wasn't I?
Suttons are completely screwed. Coming to Aston Uni at least 30 minutes late.
Apparently a broken down bus in Sutton causing problems
Quote from: John on May 04, 2016, 10:07:42 AM
Suttons are completely screwed. Coming to Aston Uni at least 30 minutes late.
Apparently a broken down bus in Sutton causing problems
It's an Arriva Bus
in the worst place possible, by the Job Centre on the Lichfield Road.
I got to Roughley on my first trip and there was 3 of us there together. The one in front of me, my bus and the one behind. Me and the latest bus were busy this adgusted, him to relief and me to Erdington to start back out to Hill Hook. So I used Thornhill Road and Chester Road and got back on time at least.
It was gone then anyway
I saw 4705 and 4227 running in pairs on the 89 along Oldbury Road (around 12pm). Couldn't believe it, had to double take
6726, 6734 and 6732 in convoy leaving Brum at 18:25 on X51s
4603, 4605 and 4567 have just arrived into Wolverhampton Bus Station all on the 529.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 08, 2016, 09:06:32 AM
4603, 4605 and 4567 have just arrived into Wolverhampton Bus Station all on the 529.
The 529's are running like normal then....
The A34 is at a standstill, both on and off the underpass. Platinum buses are not using underpass. Ambulance and police and fire engines have just raced past. I've heard that the Aldridge road is gridlocked too
Bunching on the 276...
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t35.0-12/fr/cp0/e15/q65/13410919_10154158185493116_1009062931_o.png.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=9af4e4d2fdbb462eb15bd2f4ecf033fe&oe=575A3962)
Both Digbeth and Moor Street are heavily congested at the minute
Quote from: John on June 14, 2016, 02:46:26 PM
Both Digbeth and Moor Street are heavily congested at the minute
Saltley Viaduct closed
Station Road Stetchford closed
Bromford Road, Oldbury closed
Dudley Road, Cape Hill closed
Digbeth just reopened which should help Moor Street
Quote from: Tony on June 14, 2016, 02:53:03 PM
Saltley Viaduct closed
Station Road Stetchford closed
Bromford Road, Oldbury closed
Dudley Road, Cape Hill closed
Digbeth just reopened which should help Moor Street
Jesus wept. AVL must have their work cut out
Quote from: Liverpool Street on June 14, 2016, 02:57:32 PM
Jesus wept. AVL must have their work cut out
Actually having to answer calls, bloody hell! ;)
Quote from: Dom on June 14, 2016, 02:59:19 PM
Actually having to answer calls, bloody hell! ;)
No comment hahaha
Quote from: Liverpool Street on June 14, 2016, 02:57:32 PM
Jesus wept. AVL must have their work cut out
At times like this the AVL system should be the jewel in the crown. Now, this is my opinion being a driver; speech requests go unanswered as do phone calls. Requests for emergency service assistance are ignored, often a controller will call back twenty minutes later asking if they're still required and you're there thinking help is on the way! Diversions are not put out quickly enough to warn following vehicles, it's like they don't trust information we give them. We, drivers, are told to keep passengers informed of any situations as this helps alleviate confusion and frustration. Same goes for us drivers. If they get busy and struggle to answer calls then they should let us know. Terribly sorry about this rant but for those on here who don't drive they should understand the struggle.
Avl are a joke
Garages should take back control of there own routes having people who know where the bus goes and know the drivers
Quote from: AndrewLee on June 14, 2016, 03:46:38 PM
At times like this the AVL system should be the jewel in the crown. Now, this is my opinion being a driver; speech requests go unanswered as do phone calls. Requests for emergency service assistance are ignored, often a controller will call back twenty minutes later asking if they're still required and you're there thinking help is on the way! Diversions are not put out quickly enough to warn following vehicles, it's like they don't trust information we give them. We, drivers, are told to keep passengers informed of any situations as this helps alleviate confusion and frustration. Same goes for us drivers. If they get busy and struggle to answer calls then they should let us know. Terribly sorry about this rant but for those on here who don't drive they should understand the struggle.
I have sympathy for your comments, Andrew, but not for Dom who is just having a pop at people doing a job without knowing anything from either end.
As someone who has been in AVL I will back them up though.
There can be 15 people sat at those desks, but once a person takes one call, then they have to follow that up before they can take the next call.
If you radio through to say you have broken down for instance then they have to get all the details from you, then pass those details onto the engineers, then log the lost mileage (a legal requirement) before they can answer the next call. If three calls come on the screen in close succession then the third will have quite a long wait, while that is happening at times of disruption another 3 calls might appear.
Saltley viaduct has reopened. Took about 45mins from town to Saltley with the backlog of traffic.
Quote from: Tony on June 14, 2016, 03:53:47 PM
I have sympathy for your comments, Andrew, but not for Dom who is just having a pop at people doing a job without knowing anything from either end.
As someone who has been in AVL I will back them up though.
There can be 15 people sat at those desks, but once a person takes one call, then they have to follow that up before they can take the next call.
If you radio through to say you have broken down for instance then they have to get all the details from you, then pass those details onto the engineers, then log the lost mileage (a legal requirement) before they can answer the next call. If three calls come on the screen in close succession then the third will have quite a long wait, while that is happening at times of disruption another 3 calls might appear.
I didn't ask for sympathy
@Tony. I made the comment in jest, based upon what both drivers on here say and drivers say to me away from the forum.
Of course I can understand the task that AVL face, trying to ensure over 1000 buses are running okay, thats a huge task. I also appreciate that they try their best, as I said though the comment was made it jest.
On another note - I wouldn't call this "VERY" late - but the 101s are bunching again. At time of writing, I've left city on 4821, following 4828... Whilst another 101 is being followed by 4825 going into city. I surmise one of the latters will be a 101E?
I'm always weary of people who are too busy. Two of the reasons
if AVL staff genuinely can't cope with the workload is either the system doesn't help them do their job efficiently or there are insufficient staff to cope with the number of calls received. I would expect staff to stand up for themselves if there are problems, not just blindly say "that's the way it is!"
Quote from: Tony on June 14, 2016, 02:53:03 PM
Saltley Viaduct closed
Station Road Stetchford closed
Bromford Road, Oldbury closed
Dudley Road, Cape Hill closed
Digbeth just reopened which should help Moor Street
Station Road, Stechford has reopened.
Quote from: Tony on June 14, 2016, 03:53:47 PM
I have sympathy for your comments, Andrew, but not for Dom who is just having a pop at people doing a job without knowing anything from either end.
As someone who has been in AVL I will back them up though.
There can be 15 people sat at those desks, but once a person takes one call, then they have to follow that up before they can take the next call.
If you radio through to say you have broken down for instance then they have to get all the details from you, then pass those details onto the engineers, then log the lost mileage (a legal requirement) before they can answer the next call. If three calls come on the screen in close succession then the third will have quite a long wait, while that is happening at times of disruption another 3 calls might appear.
Totally understand! Obviously AVL have their own challenges unique to job they do. I also realise things are being looked at and tweaked, for example the recent radio call options/procedure. I just think the system isn't being utilised to maximise its potential. I've been invited up by a couple of colleagues to have a look round and observe, I think I'm going to find the time and take up the offer.
Quote from: JoNi on June 14, 2016, 04:27:47 PM
I'm always weary of people who are too busy. Two of the reasons
if AVL staff genuinely can't cope with the workload is either the system doesn't help them do their job efficiently or there are insufficient staff to cope with the number of calls received. I would expect staff to stand up for themselves if there are problems, not just blindly say "that's the way it is!"
AVL staff can cope with the normal level of calls, and it can be better than a garage manning it, because when the garage did answer the calls there is always only one call from that garage can be answered at a time, whereas at the Black Country desk at AVL still same number of staff, 4 for 4 garages, but if all the calls come in from one garage whilst another has none then at least they can answer two at a time.
As a for instance today where drivers think they are being ignored, there was flash flooding at Cape Hill /Grove Lane this afternoon, the force of the water in the drains pushed a manhole cover up and suddenly filled the road with water.
One 82 service (4751 I think) hit the drain cover, 4 other buses got stranded. First driver to hit his call button would get answered and the controller would start the actions needed to deal with the problem, meanwhile I suspect 4 drivers are sat there thinking 'bloody AVL, never answer the radio' but in reality if he did answer all the other 4 calls all it would do is delay the actions needed for sorting the problem they were all stuck in!
Quote from: AndrewLee on June 14, 2016, 05:44:58 PM
Totally understand! Obviously AVL have their own challenges unique to job they do. I also realise things are being looked at and tweaked, for example the recent radio call options/procedure. I just think the system isn't being utilised to maximise its potential. I've been invited up by a couple of colleagues to have a look round and observe, I think I'm going to find the time and take up the offer.
I would Andrew, it is very interesting, what you won't see is controller sat around ignoring drivers. They can be sat chatting having a laugh between themselves at times where no driver is calling, then suddenly 3 or 4 vehicles will light up on the screen, or even worse, one emergency call will come in like on Saturday when an Inspector had his arm slashed with a Stanley Knife in Birmingham City Centre, not even a revenue inspector, or even in an argument. Obviously while the controller was getting police, ambulance, other inspectors to the scene then notifying management of a sserious incident drivers were 'being ignored'.
What is the procedure for a driver putting a call into AVL regarding late running? What is the minimum ammount of time they have to be down by?
Quote from: Dom on June 14, 2016, 05:58:30 PM
What is the procedure for a driver putting a call into AVL regarding late running? What is the minimum ammount of time they have to be down by?
There is no fixed time, but if a driver presses his 'late' button say 12 minutes down, but has a 12 minute drop back at the next terminus he is likely to be ignored if other calls are in the queue
The BC 45 seemed quite bunched up today at 17:45 with 4944/4945/4895/4898 and I think another all passing through West Heath between 17:45-17:52. 4896/4945/4944 were all together at West Heath between 18:00-18:02 as well.
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on June 14, 2016, 07:08:17 PM
The BC 45 seemed quite bunched up today at 17:45 with 4944/4945/4895/4898 and I think another all passing through West Heath between 17:45-17:52. 4896/4945/4944 were all together at West Heath between 18:00-18:02 as well.
If you haven't noticed, it rained a lot today, most of Birmingham stopped, buses on lots of routes are still running up to two hours late
Quote from: Tony on June 14, 2016, 05:53:18 PM
I would Andrew, it is very interesting, what you won't see is controller sat around ignoring drivers. They can be sat chatting having a laugh between themselves at times where no driver is calling, then suddenly 3 or 4 vehicles will light up on the screen, or even worse, one emergency call will come in like on Saturday when an Inspector had his arm slashed with a Stanley Knife in Birmingham City Centre, not even a revenue inspector, or even in an argument. Obviously while the controller was getting police, ambulance, other inspectors to the scene then notifying management of a sserious incident drivers were 'being ignored'.
I heard about this incident and know the Inspector personally having sometimes worked closely with him. I wish him a speedy recovery.
Quote from: AndrewLee on June 14, 2016, 09:24:40 PM
I heard about this incident and know the Inspector personally having sometimes worked closely with him. I wish him a speedy recovery.
I posted about this incident a few hours after it happened on "Bus Accidents/Incidents". I know him too and do wish him a speedy recovery.
Birchfield Road underpass flooded again. X51 late presumably the 934/5/6/7/997 too
Quote from: Kevin on June 15, 2016, 07:43:43 AM
Birchfield Road underpass flooded again. X51 late presumably the 934/5/6/7/997 too
How bad is it? I've decided to go around the back on the 66 and Sutton's, but will be getting X51 out of City once I arrive.
868 and 870 a few minutes apart from each over through Netherton and old hill.
With 867 and 864 following each other through Old Hill about 10 5 mins later.
What's happened today with the 17 service 3 17e buses & no bus to town for over 25 mins
Quote from: Solo1 on June 24, 2016, 05:28:40 PM
What's happened today with the 17 service 3 17e buses & no bus to town for over 25 mins
Probably the same as happens nearly every evening! :D
Quote from: Solo1 on June 24, 2016, 05:28:40 PM
What's happened today with the 17 service 3 17e buses & no bus to town for over 25 mins
Just have a look on the website and you will see the answer
A building fire on Green Lane
Due to hole in Saltley Viaduct wall there are temporary traffic lights on the inbound side only the outbound side open which is causing a few delays to all services
Looks like I'm walking down to Acocks Green then! :-\
4228 & 4234 both on the Oldbury Road, Blackheath bound within a couple of mins of each other on the 89, about 15 minutes ago
2 907s together by the Royal Mail heading towards Perry Barr.
The 65/7s seem to have been bunching up, both this morning and afternoon. It might be Salford Circus holding them up
4 X51s in about 5 mins on the Walsall road at the moment, just overtaken 2 of them and
@BU07 LGO in a 51 on foot
Quote from: Kevin on July 04, 2016, 07:04:50 PM
4 X51s in about 5 mins on the Walsall road at the moment, just overtaken 2 of them and @BU07 LGO in a 51 on foot
Haha it was crazy I was actually on time believe it or not after been adjusted the trip before.
Apparently it's all being caused by the expressway - m6 slip road being closed so we could have another month of this!
Quote from: BU07 LGO on July 05, 2016, 12:41:27 AM
Haha it was crazy I was actually on time believe it or not after been adjusted the trip before.
Apparently it's all being caused by the expressway - m6 slip road being closed so we could have another month of this!
Well I'm just on 6727 on the X51 to Walsall. And the Walsall Road is complete carnage heading towards Walsall at Scott Arms. Worse than it usually is in the evening peak.
X51's, 51's and 52's are all late. Walsall Road heading towards Scott Arms from Perry Barr is gridlocked with traffic stretching all the way onto the Perry Barr Flyover to Aston Six Ways!
Glad I'm on 4's lol, worse traffic build up is birchley island just past Oldbury lol
Something is happening in Handsworth which is probably causing the 101 and 11 to run late.
3 YW27s in 15 mins towards Maypole at Northfield. Lots of other routes will be late running at Northfield as well including a few pairs of 18s
120's have been having issues all day. Several buses have had running board swapped through out the day to keep service running well. Very well managed by the inspector, kept on top of it all very well.
The Expressway is closed for the weekend over the Summer. Walsall Road like a car park all the way from One Stop up to the M6. Lichfield Road also heavy with with Motorway traffic
Sutton Lines seemed screwed again. 3 left together about 5 minutes ago, a 904, 904E and 905. The next 904E is loading up now
Walsall Road is a car park again thanks to the lorry fire this morning
Quote from: Kevin on July 26, 2016, 06:35:45 PM
Walsall Road is a car park again thanks to the lorry fire this morning
We have been using Lichfield Road all afternoon due to it. 3 sets of roadworks we had to contend with early afternoon. Expressway, Mill Street and Lichfield Road. I was at least 30 minutes late on a 902. Should have been 3.18pm, but it was nearly 3.50 when I left Hill Hook. The next one was right behind me at the terminus, and I passed the one after that on Clarence Road
Any routes that use broad Street are already screwed today due to the cycling event that has closed broad Street the diversion is pretty much following the route out of city for X10,9,120 ect.
Passed 3 9's together, a 120 and 120E, 2 X10's and a fair few harbornes together.
Quote from: Dom on July 28, 2016, 01:42:20 PM
Any routes that use broad Street are already screwed today due to the cycling event that has closed broad Street the diversion is pretty much following the route out of city for X10,9,120 ect.
Passed 3 9's together, a 120 and 120E, 2 X10's and a fair few harbornes together.
Had to do a double take around 1445; I'd saw a 24 (UID B7RLE) going onto Calthorpe Road from Islington Row.. Mystery Solved! :P
I was nearly 45 minutes late on the 907 this afternoon. Usual shopping traffic at New Oscott and Perry Barr, one trip it took nearly 15 minutes to get round the island at Perry Barr from coming off the overpasses. Plus the traffic lights were playing up on the Parade in Sutton again, stuck on red leaving Lower Parade. I was turned around at Perry Barr so only 10 minutes late finishing
Just passed 3 51s together at Newtown heading into City
Quote from: John on July 31, 2016, 05:37:37 PM
I was nearly 45 minutes late on the 907 this afternoon. Usual shopping traffic at New Oscott and Perry Barr, one trip it took nearly 15 minutes to get round the island at Perry Barr from coming off the overpasses. Plus the traffic lights were playing up on the Parade in Sutton again, stuck on red leaving Lower Parade. I was turned around at Perry Barr so only 10 minutes late finishing
That bus lane in Perry Barr is a waste of time, it's about time it was enforced
00:07 51 last night was running 15 late, the last 33 turned up at One Stop on time and when I asked the driver he said other people were asking about the last 997 as well, so I'm guessing that was also late
Can't have been still a hangover from the M6 traffic at that time surely?
They need cameras in bus lanes so when the car drivers
start getting fined for entering the bus lane hopfully it will help them to keep to time
Erdington services in disarray as both sides of Sutton New Road Closed by Wilton Market due to Air Ambulance landing there about 40 mins ago all buses diverted at moment Sutton bound are going via Wood End Lane, Kingsbury Road back to route I believe, the other way not sure what the diversion is. A 15C was stuck at mini island on Orphanage Rd due to Police cordon and police tape on central reservation.
May be ok now as I had to walk to 11C stop as I couldn't get to bus stop by Wilton Market to catch the 28
Quote from: Squiz1971 on August 15, 2016, 04:33:40 PM
Erdington services in disarray as both sides of Sutton New Road Closed by Wilton Market due to Air Ambulance landing there about 40 mins ago all buses diverted at moment Sutton bound are going via Wood End Lane, Kingsbury Road back to route I believe, the other way not sure what the diversion is. A 15C was stuck at mini island on Orphanage Rd due to Police cordon and police tape on central reservation.
May be ok now as I had to walk to 11C stop as I couldn't get to bus stop by Wilton Market to catch the 28
From City is normal route now, I have not heard to City OK yet. I only lost a few minutes on my way to Minworth. Yes we are using Holly Lane to the 914 and then the 11 route to Six Ways.
Quote from: John on August 15, 2016, 05:29:27 PM
From City is normal route now, I have not heard to City OK yet. I only lost a few minutes on my way to Minworth. Yes we are using Holly Lane to the 914 and then the 11 route to Six Ways.
I believe the incident was on the inbound side of Sutton New Road judging by things I briefly saw. Outbound only closed to allow for the air ambulance to land to pick up the casualty/ies
@John
Quote from: Squiz1971 on August 15, 2016, 05:41:32 PM
I believe the incident was on the inbound side of Sutton New Road judging by things I briefly saw. Outbound only closed to allow for the air ambulance to land to pick up the casualty/ies @John
Yes it was by Wilton Market on the to City Side. I had to do the diversion in both directions so that must have been when the Air Ambulance had landed.
I lost all of about 15 minutes getting to Minworth. lost about 5 minutes on the diversion, then got stuck in Sutton for nearly 10 minutes as the lights on the Parade was blocked, with two buses heading up South parade couldn't get round the buses queuing at the lights to enter South parade, not helped by an idiot van driver who wouldn't move at first to let the 71 round freeing us all up. Left on time from Asda at 5.30pm, but came off 9 minutes late at the Uni
In Coventry at 4pm... four E400 buses in unison at The Quadrant on service 21 towards Wood End, should be a 10 minute summer frequency, no idea if any incident caused this.
I give up on the 244 service
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 17, 2016, 06:43:24 PM
I give up on the 244 service
What time?
I can see very little late running on the 244 today
Quote from: Tony on August 17, 2016, 06:55:22 PM
What time?
I can see very little late running on the 244 today
Oh pull the other one, they are so unreliable, always running 5 minutes late at least.
Apologies if sound harsh but really does need addressing
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 17, 2016, 07:17:53 PM
Oh pull the other one, they are so unreliable, always running 5 minutes late at least.
Apologies if sound harsh but really does need addressing
You haven't told me what time, because today only 5 journeys left Dudley Bus Station more than two minutes late
and going the other way only 5 buses left Halesowen over 5 minutes late all day
So when did you give up?
Quote from: Tony on August 17, 2016, 07:22:34 PM
You haven't told me what time, because today only 5 journeys left Dudley Bus Station more than two minutes late
and going the other way only 5 buses left Halesowen over 5 minutes late all day
So when did you give up?
The b7rle left Halesowen to loop at 10:04 instead of 9:56
The e200 I got arrived Halesowen 10:01 not 9:57
And they have loads of time to go round loop
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 17, 2016, 07:26:08 PM
The b7rle left Halesowen to loop at 10:04 instead of 9:56
The e200 I got arrived Halesowen 10:01 not 9:57
And they have loads of time to go round loop
Hang on there you said you gave up, but now say you caught 870 which was running within Vosa guidelines of -1+5minutes.
870 actually arrived in Dudley 1 minute early despite being 4 late in Halesowen, so your claim of not enough running time doesn't match either
Quote from: Tony on August 17, 2016, 07:32:00 PM
Hang on there you said you gave up, but now say you caught 870 which was running within Vosa guidelines of -1+5minutes.
870 actually arrived in Dudley 1 minute early despite being 4 late in Halesowen, so your claim of not enough running time doesn't match either
Ok so should they not change the timetable slightly so that people actually predict what time bus going to turn up.
For example to Dudley it has 35 mins (ish)
But on return has 27 mins( they both go the same route!!)
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 17, 2016, 07:54:04 PM
Ok so should they not change the timetable slightly so that people actually predict what time bus going to turn up.
For example to Dudley it has 35 mins (ish)
But on return has 27 mins( they both go the same route!!)
yes no problem we will do it just for you stop you moaning phone up the garage and tell them what time bus your catching and we will put your very own inspector on that bus who will provide you with tea and a cake
Quote from: karl724223 on August 17, 2016, 07:58:22 PM
yes no problem we will do it just for you stop you moaning phone up the garage and tell them what time bus your catching and we will put your very own inspector on that bus who will provide you with tea and a cake
Ok will do.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 17, 2016, 07:59:06 PM
Ok will do.
do you know miss piggy and mr frog that catch the bus in Halesowen
And mr g raff who catches it in Dudley
Mrs c gull catches it in merry hill she's a nice bird
@Dom @pndriver
Quote from: karl724223 on August 17, 2016, 08:04:51 PM
do you know miss piggy and mr frog that catch the bus in Halesowen
And mr g raff who catches it in Dudley
Mrs c gull catches it in merry hill she's a nice bird
@Dom @pndriver
LMFAO, would said inspector be delivering tea in a chocolate teapot
@karl724223
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 17, 2016, 07:26:08 PM
The b7rle left Halesowen to loop at 10:04 instead of 9:56
The e200 I got arrived Halesowen 10:01 not 9:57
And they have loads of time to go round loop
A late bus is better than no bus
Quote from: Dom on August 17, 2016, 10:10:35 PM
LMFAO, would said inspector be delivering tea in a chocolate teapot @karl724223
yes and his imaginary friend can have one as well
@Dom
People on this forum chat so much shit don't they.
6:50 X51 is running 20 minutes late. Currently running with the 7:10 X51 from Birmingham.
2 244s due 4 mins apart. Usual????
4084 aswell.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 19, 2016, 12:54:36 PM
2 244s due 4 mins apart. Usual????
4084 aswell.
4084 as well as what?
Quote from: Tony on August 19, 2016, 04:11:45 PM
4084 as well as what?
Yes can you please tell me why 4084 had ages at oldbury and was then running late at 11:00
Quote from: karl724223 on August 17, 2016, 08:04:51 PM
do you know miss piggy and mr frog that catch the bus in Halesowen
And mr g raff who catches it in Dudley
Mrs c gull catches it in merry hill she's a nice bird
@Dom @pndriver
hilarious
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 19, 2016, 06:06:39 PM
Yes can you please tell me why 4084 had ages at oldbury and was then running late at 11:00
a few ideas why 4084 had ages in Oldbury, driver could have exceeded his driving hours, no relief driver , could have been waiting for engineer to repair something, 83/89 running boards has five minute lay over in Oldbury, or something else.
Dudley rd services are experiencing delays from McDonald's cape hill to summer field because of closure of Heath st and road works in rood end.
As drivers we have all experienced random one off incidents on route which can cause delays, timetables are just guides they are not set in concrete.
I myself will run to the timetable guide where safely as possible won't bust a gut to stick to it not drivers problem, don't care if bus is running late I don't make the timetables, drivers only responsibility to timetable not to run early. Still a late bus is better than no bus.
Quote from: 2900 on August 20, 2016, 10:38:47 AM
a few ideas why 4084 had ages in Oldbury, driver could have exceeded his driving hours, no relief driver , could have been waiting for engineer to repair something, 83/89 running boards has five minute lay over in Oldbury, or something else.
Dudley rd services are experiencing delays from McDonald's cape hill to summer field because of closure of Heath st and road works in rood end.
As drivers we have all experienced random one off incidents on route which can cause delays, timetables are just guides they are not set in concrete.
I myself will run to the timetable guide where safely as possible won't bust a gut to stick to it not drivers problem, don't care if bus is running late I don't make the timetables, drivers only responsibility to timetable not to run early. Still a late bus is better than no bus.
"I don't care, I pay your wages."
Or that's what they'll think! Knobs lol
Quote from: 2900 on August 20, 2016, 10:38:47 AM
a few ideas why 4084 had ages in Oldbury, driver could have exceeded his driving hours, no relief driver , could have been waiting for engineer to repair something, 83/89 running boards has five minute lay over in Oldbury, or something else.
Dudley rd services are experiencing delays from McDonald's cape hill to summer field because of closure of Heath st and road works in rood end.
As drivers we have all experienced random one off incidents on route which can cause delays, timetables are just guides they are not set in concrete.
I myself will run to the timetable guide where safely as possible won't bust a gut to stick to it not drivers problem, don't care if bus is running late I don't make the timetables, drivers only responsibility to timetable not to run early. Still a late bus is better than no bus.
Ticket fraud for example.
Quote from: Dom on August 20, 2016, 05:57:38 PM
Ticket fraud for example.
What do you mean ticket fraud?
Quote from: MW on August 20, 2016, 07:47:27 PM
What do you mean ticket fraud?
Someone with an out of date or fake ticket.
i.e trying to use an out of date daysaver when boarding a bus.
SOME drivers do stop these scum from using these tickets but no enough
Quote from: Dom on August 20, 2016, 07:50:40 PM
Someone with an out of date or fake ticket.
i.e trying to use an out of date daysaver when boarding a bus.
SOME drivers do stop these scum from using these tickets but no enough
Oh sorry, I wasn't following. You mean the bus might not be moving because someone hasn't paid/used a faker.
I'm at a complete opposite understanding to this then. I never once understood why drivers decide to stop the bus just to prove a point? Some drivers put the attack alarm on (who's attacking them????).
If someone doesn't pay or uses a out of date ticket, there's a button for it on the ticket machine (I'm sure you already know this). You're just holding everyone up if you decide to make a scene surely?
Quote from: MW on August 20, 2016, 09:02:28 PM
Oh sorry, I wasn't following. You mean the bus might not be moving because someone hasn't paid/used a faker.
I'm at a complete opposite understanding to this then. I never once understood why drivers decide to stop the bus just to prove a point? Some drivers put the attack alarm on (who's attacking them????).
If someone doesn't pay or uses a out of date ticket, there's a button for it on the ticket machine (I'm sure you already know this). You're just holding everyone up if you decide to make a scene surely?
So what is the point in anybody paying there fare then. The more you let people get away with it, the more people will try it on.
Quote from: MW on August 20, 2016, 09:02:28 PM
Oh sorry, I wasn't following. You mean the bus might not be moving because someone hasn't paid/used a faker.
I'm at a complete opposite understanding to this then. I never once understood why drivers decide to stop the bus just to prove a point? Some drivers put the attack alarm on (who's attacking them????).
If someone doesn't pay or uses a out of date ticket, there's a button for it on the ticket machine (I'm sure you already know this). You're just holding everyone up if you decide to make a scene surely?
A lot of drivers do stop, simply because it is morally correct.
I remember being on an early morning 97 and a drunk guy boarded the bus and just sat down showing no form of payment. The driver asked him repeatedly and he just in a slurred manner said whatever, so the driver got out the cab, grabbed his carrier bag and placed it outside the bus, as the guy went out to get it, the driver closed the doors and drove off ! :D
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 20, 2016, 09:08:07 PM
So what is the point in anybody paying there fare then. The more you let people get away with it, the more people will try it on.
Yeah you're right. Why should anyone pay the fare if it's that easy not to.
My point is, it's not the drivers job to enforce payment. You're not paid any extra for throwing them off the bus, you're not rewarded. You're just going out of your way for extra hassle that doesn't concern you.
If a driver does all that, then he takes his job too seriously.
And above all else, the company doesn't want the driver to get involved. So not only are they going against the company, they're getting extra grief for the pleasure.
With regards to morals, yeah I completely understand that it's not right.
Something up in Walsall or along the Birmingham road this morning, 06:55 X51 off Scott Arms turned up 07:15 with the next two advertised as due in 1 minute
Last 5 from Sutton missing
Stood in Boldmere for half an hour before giving up and calling a cab
Road works on Birmingham Road in Sutton Coldfield is causing the 77's, 907's, 5's etc to run late. 12:10 77 (which was 4855) has only just arrived into Walsall before leaving Dead.
6721 running at least 15 late on the Cannock X51, waiting at the Children's Hospital stop and saw it sat there at the top of Corporation Street hazards on. 17:35 behind it picked up all the passengers but he got going soon after
Quote from: Michael Bevan on August 25, 2016, 01:08:05 PM
Road works on Birmingham Road in Sutton Coldfield is causing the 77's, 907's, 5's etc to run late. 12:10 77 (which was 4855) has only just arrived into Walsall before leaving Dead.
20 minutes late getting to Roughley earlier this afternoon because of it. Was send dead back to City from there. Luckily I thought of using Weeford Road, Tamworth Road and down through Walmley to get to the Uni. I passed another one running dead the other way along the 71 route by the Reddicap. Managed to get to relief 3 minutes early too!
241 today due to road works
2 9s in convoy at Halesowen at 12:00
12:05 89 ex Walsall running about 15 late
3 244s apparently due in the space of 10 mins between all three
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 31, 2016, 10:06:55 AM
3 244s apparently due in the space of 10 mins between all three
2089 is running late with 865 not far behind on time, but no third bus
PB28's may be delayed due to 4-way traffic lights at the Orphanage Road /Chester Road Island as the Erdington bound side of Orphanage Road is down to 1 lane, passed it about 11am this morning being caught in the queue turning into Chester Road at the Yenton
All services through Digbeth and Camp Hill seemed to pieces this evening; the 60 I got on at Bordesley Station was absolutely rammed full, as were the 17 and 59 that arrived a few minutes before. I only squeezed myself onto the 60 because the next 900/957 was showing as due in 16 minutes.
There was something on the NX app about roadworks on the Stratford Road? Seems very bad timing by the council, considering the end of the summer holiday period, added to the continued closure of Small Heath Bridge! I appreciate this is beyond NX's control, but some other passengers don't see things as I do!
Quote from: Stu on September 05, 2016, 08:52:59 PM
All services through Digbeth and Camp Hill seemed to pieces this evening; the 60 I got on at Bordesley Station was absolutely rammed full, as were the 17 and 59 that arrived a few minutes before. I only squeezed myself onto the 60 because the next 900/957 was showing as due in 16 minutes.
There was something on the NX app about roadworks on the Stratford Road? Seems very bad timing by the council, considering the end of the summer holiday period, added to the continued closure of Small Heath Bridge! I appreciate this is beyond NX's control, but some other passengers don't see things as I do!
Roadworks were on Stratford Road by Court Road (where the 2 turns left off Stratford Rd). Plenty of traffic on Warwick Road with 6-7 37's within minutes of each other. 4528 parked up NIS at St Johns timing point, aswell as 1911?! NIS on Warwick Road (presumably running dead from City to Solihull for the 6, or is it on loan to AG?)
Traffic is awful in West Brom this evening, came out of college and saw a line of at least 13 buses in a que going as far as new square, at least 5 of which were number 5's and 3 or 4 4/H/M. Got into Dudley and the 121 I was on left with another 121 directly behind.
Quote from: MW on September 05, 2016, 08:57:07 PM
Roadworks were on Stratford Road by Court Road (where the 2 turns left off Stratford Rd). Plenty of traffic on Warwick Road with 6-7 37's within minutes of each other. 4528 parked up NIS at St Johns timing point, aswell as 1911?! NIS on Warwick Road (presumably running dead from City to Solihull for the 6, or is it on loan to AG?)
Its that tiny bit of roadwork at the Kyotts Lake Road junction on Stratford Road thats causing major traffic problems. Had to pop to shop this morning to get milk for work and had a chance to view the morning carnage, mostly affecting traffic towards city. I guess the reverse in the evenings causes more trouble, with queuing traffic blocking Camp Hill Circus, causing tailbacks along the ring road and along Camp Hill into Digbeth.
And the 'pinch point' works at Bordesley Circus seem to have been a waste of time and money. As soon as the ring road towards Aston Expressway gets congested, you end up with two lots of traffic trying to exit that island (either through the 'hamburger' lane, or round the island from the ring road) which blocks the island, and prevents traffic from Coventry Road by Bordesley station from getting around the island. And selfish motorists won't sit back and let the traffic flow out, some of the crazy weaving around I've seen I'm amazed there are not more accidents there.
Quote from: Stu on September 09, 2016, 05:58:41 PM
Its that tiny bit of roadwork at the Kyotts Lake Road junction on Stratford Road thats causing major traffic problems. Had to pop to shop this morning to get milk for work and had a chance to view the morning carnage, mostly affecting traffic towards city. I guess the reverse in the evenings causes more trouble, with queuing traffic blocking Camp Hill Circus, causing tailbacks along the ring road and along Camp Hill into Digbeth.
And the 'pinch point' works at Bordesley Circus seem to have been a waste of time and money. As soon as the ring road towards Aston Expressway gets congested, you end up with two lots of traffic trying to exit that island (either through the 'hamburger' lane, or round the island from the ring road) which blocks the island, and prevents traffic from Coventry Road by Bordesley station from getting around the island. And selfish motorists won't sit back and let the traffic flow out, some of the crazy weaving around I've seen I'm amazed there are not more accidents there.
I'm guilty to the weaving lol
Originally I thought they were making an underpass there, so from Small Heath Highway to the Ring Road towards Aston Expressway. They've got plenty of space there to do that.
Those traffic lights on Bordesley Circus are useless. If you're coming off Coventry Road to cross over towards Digbeth, you end up blocking the roundabout and people coming from Aston Expressway towards Small Heath highway end up getting blocked in
It is a complex junction there with traffic going in every direction.
867
Ran at least 15 minutes late on the 77 most of the day, New Oscott like usual for a Saturday. Two of the three buses have been this late, the third looked like it managed to keep to time. No drop backs on there to try to catch up
Quote from: Chris on September 10, 2016, 05:29:39 PM
Which is on??? Let me guess the 243/4?
road works by railway bridge just before old hill high st
Quote from: karl724223 on September 10, 2016, 06:05:35 PM
road works by railway bridge just before old hill high st
That cause at least a 20 min delay? All the rest of the 244s seem to be on time to a degree today
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 10, 2016, 06:40:17 PM
That cause at least a 20 min delay? All the rest of the 244s seem to be on time to a degree today
Oh for f**k sake will you stop moaning! The driver could have been a new driver so not overly confident, that along with the road works adds up! Bet you wouldn't moan if Diamond ran the 243/244
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 10, 2016, 06:40:17 PM
That cause at least a 20 min delay? All the rest of the 244s seem to be on time to a degree today
And what time was this then?
The 13:37 from Halesowen?
Yes 867 was 16 late (not 20) and both the bus in front and the bus behind were also late
Quote from: Tony on September 10, 2016, 07:26:28 PM
And what time was this then?
The 13:37 from Halesowen?
Yes 867 was 16 late (not 20) and both the bus in front and the bus behind were also late
No it was doing the 16:37 too Dudley from Halesowen, was an e working I think
Quote from: Dom on September 10, 2016, 06:57:56 PM
Oh for f**k sake will you stop moaning! The driver could have been a new driver so not overly confident, that along with the road works adds up! Bet you wouldn't moan if Diamond ran the 243/244
I simply posted in the correct topic. Merry hill rota drivers do seem a bit precautions compared to Stourbridge rota drivers?
Diamond do have there days off running late and I post that in their thread aswell. However diamond seem to try and make up the time with some pretty fast driving whereas 244 drivers seem to not care.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 10, 2016, 07:35:21 PM
I simply posted in the correct topic. Merry hill rota drivers do seem a bit precautions compared to Stourbridge rota drivers?
Diamond do have there days off running late and I post that in their thread aswell. However diamond seem to try and make up the time with some pretty fast driving whereas 244 drivers seem to not care.
Well the 243 and 244 aren't on Merry Hill rota! No NX drivers will actually get caught if they speed or break the law!
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 10, 2016, 07:31:18 PM
No it was doing the 16:37 too Dudley from Halesowen, was an e working I think
because it was late on the previous journey and turned short, the mileage it operated on the 16:37 journey was actually all done on time after starting part way
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 10, 2016, 07:35:21 PM
I simply posted in the correct topic. Merry hill rota drivers do seem a bit precautions compared to Stourbridge rota drivers?
Diamond do have there days off running late and I post that in their thread aswell. However diamond seem to try and make up the time with some pretty fast driving whereas 244 drivers seem to not care.
get facts right 243/4 on the Dudley rota driver was probably driving to the road conditions wet roads due to rain traffic conditions due to road works allowing passengers to sit Down before pulling away like he has been taught so get a life and stop posting crap
6740, 6738 and 6726 all on Bull Street as X51s 18:35, 6726 took all the passengers
Edit- all arrived at Scott Arms together. No idea which one of either is on time
Quote from: Kevin on September 13, 2016, 06:40:06 PM
6740, 6738 and 6726 all on Bull Street as X51s 18:35, 6726 took all the passengers
Edit- all arrived at Scott Arms together. No idea which one of either is on time
Well 6740 was 10 minutes late earlier departing Walsall on the 19:05 934 to Birmingham, so definitely wasn't that.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on September 13, 2016, 09:46:13 PM
Well 6740 was 10 minutes late earlier departing Walsall on the 19:05 934 to Birmingham, so definitely wasn't that.
19:05, 10 late - 18:35 ex city - very much guaranteed to be the same bus
Quote from: Kevin on September 14, 2016, 07:18:17 AM
19:05, 10 late - 18:35 ex city - very much guaranteed to be the same bus
The 18:15 X51 does the 19:05 934.
Quote from: Dom on September 14, 2016, 07:53:42 AM
The 18:15 X51 does the 19:05 934.
Yeah it does one round trip on the 934, then X51 and 937A's.
Quote from: Dom on September 14, 2016, 07:53:42 AM
The 18:15 X51 does the 19:05 934.
There we are, he was 20 late then
The 900/957 seemed to have gone missing earlier this evening, got to Bordeley station around 6pm, and the app was showing a 23 minute wait for a 957?
Quote from: Stu on September 14, 2016, 07:30:24 PM
The 900/957 seemed to have gone missing earlier this evening, got to Bordeley station around 6pm, and the app was showing a 23 minute wait for a 957?
@Stu I departed Solihull at 18:30, and Lode Lane from the town centre seemed to be at a standstill
Number 9 look to have a 30 min gap at least with no buses-no doubt due to colley gate
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 15, 2016, 09:51:01 AM
Number 9 look to have a 30 min gap at least with no buses-no doubt due to colley gate
Usually you're either wrong or lie about this sort of stuff I've noticed. Bit like the boy who cried wolf scenario
Quote from: MW on September 15, 2016, 02:15:55 PM
Usually you're either wrong or lie about this sort of stuff I've noticed. Bit like the boy who cried wolf scenario
No joke look at the buses from Halesowen between 10:50-11:20 towards Stourbridge. Literally five in a row
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 15, 2016, 05:33:05 PM
No joke look at the buses from Halesowen between 10:50-11:20 towards Stourbridge. Literally five in a row
Shouldn't you be at college or sixth form?
Quote from: Dom on September 15, 2016, 06:11:37 PM
Shouldn't you be at college or sixth form?
Yes I do attend when I have too.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 15, 2016, 05:33:05 PM
No joke look at the buses from Halesowen between 10:50-11:20 towards Stourbridge. Literally five in a row
I saw three in a row around 11:30 , 2 streetdecks and what looked like 4195 all behind each other in Lye High Street.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 15, 2016, 08:06:34 PM
I saw three in a row around 11:30 , 2 streetdecks and what looked like 4195 all behind each other in Lye High Street.
Yes it was 4195- and a couple of mins before that there was another 2.
6103,6113,3301,3304,6102 were all in bus station at 11:40-11:50
Quote from: Dom on September 15, 2016, 06:11:37 PM
Shouldn't you be at college or sixth form?
or play school
@Trident 4194 were the 244's running on time today or didn't you notice?
Quote from: pndriver on September 16, 2016, 12:48:35 AM
@Trident 4194 were the 244's running on time today or didn't you notice?
From what I saw they were running ontime.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 16, 2016, 08:05:03 AM
From what I saw they were running ontime.
Really? That's surprising considering 813 broke in Dudley, and a 244 left late after the driver had an issue with the cash chute.
Quote from: Dom on September 16, 2016, 08:46:43 AM
Really? That's surprising considering 813 broke in Dudley, and a 244 left late after the driver had an issue with the cash chute.
Funnily enough, I don't watch every departure the few I saw were on time.
129 30 min plus late due to bearwood roadworks
Quote from: karl724223 on September 16, 2016, 09:14:06 PM
129 30 min plus late due to bearwood roadworks
They're causing chaos on anything that goes through it I heard
Quote from: Dom on September 16, 2016, 09:15:03 PM
They're causing chaos on anything that goes through it I heard
Except the x10 I think they were ontime
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 17, 2016, 08:49:48 AM
Except the x10 I think they were ontime
The X10 doesn't go through them
Checked on the NXWM app for the 89 at 23:05 ex Wolverhampton, it said 12 minutes late at 23:05. At 23:20, it says 31 minutes late! Didn't see 89 arrive for the 23:05.
1890 pulled into Walsall on the 41 earlier, on time, due in at 1630, out at 1635, left NIS at 1634, no replacement or anything, meaning that anyone who wanted the 41 (myself included) had to wait for the 1735, which left late at 1740, doesn't look good when both buses are late...
Can we just have Arriva back now, please?...
Quote from: Alex on September 18, 2016, 07:52:30 PM
1890 pulled into Walsall on the 41 earlier, on time, due in at 1630, out at 1635, left NIS at 1634, no replacement or anything, meaning that anyone who wanted the 41 (myself included) had to wait for the 1735, which left late at 1740, doesn't look good when both buses are late...
Can we just have Arriva back now, please?...
You'll get shot on this forum for saying bad about nx. Haha
If you had moaned about it on Arriva Facebook page, you would have got their usual 'copy & paste' reply!
Given I saw a relief driver waiting at the stop when it turned up...
And I never really had a problem with Arriva's reliability, as the 20 or so minutes it got at Walsall, off a 77 usually proved enough, latest I recall an Arriva 41 being (NOTE: This is from my experience. Not everyone's, as I'm willing to bet a couple did get missed out) missed out, or over an hour late, latest I recall one was 18 minutes late, arrived 10 late...
From the NX twitter page:
QuoteServices 9, X10, 120, 126 & 140 are currently delayed up to 25 minutes due to congestion on the Hagley Road
X51s looking fun this evening.
17:25 Cannock journey left 10 late already full and standing from Bull Street, didn't pick up either of the next two stops.
17:35 journey has yet to leave (17:52) and probably going to be a similar story at Corporation Street and stops, next one die "10 mins" according to the real time info so that'll be at least 40 mins with no bus
And before anyone chips in, yes all these people can catch the 51 but originally at 18:24 there was an X51 advertised as "4 mins"
Gave up and caught the 51, which naturally somehow was running on time enough to have to wait at Six ways while the 18:35 bus inevitably overtook
What I don't get is how the X51s can be so delayed and yet the 51s that if anything has to negotiate worse traffic on the bits of route they don't share can be on time
Quote from: Kevin on September 21, 2016, 05:55:13 PM
X51s looking fun this evening.
17:25 Cannock journey left 10 late already full and standing from Bull Street, didn't pick up either of the next two stops.
17:35 journey has yet to leave (17:52) and probably going to be a similar story at Corporation Street and stops, next one die "10 mins" according to the real time info so that'll be at least 40 mins with no bus
And before anyone chips in, yes all these people can catch the 51 but originally at 18:24 there was an X51 advertised as "4 mins"
Gave up and caught the 51, which naturally somehow was running on time enough to have to wait at Six ways while the 18:35 bus inevitably overtook
What I don't get is how the X51s can be so delayed and yet the 51s that if anything has to negotiate worse traffic on the bits of route they don't share can be on time
Both the 51s and X51s were delayed by 15 minutes at the Scott Arms towards city coming in to make those outward journeys. The difference is, when the delays started the problems in City don't start until later with the X51 because they take longer to get to City
Hagley road both directions was screwed peak hour tonight due to a car accident traffic backed into broad st accident was just before Portland road outbound
Quote from: karl724223 on September 26, 2016, 09:08:37 PM
Hagley road both directions was screwed peak hour tonight due to a car accident traffic backed into broad st accident was just before Portland road outbound
Yeah it caused a lot of traffic along Broad Street / Five Ways too. The NX guy at the bus stop was kind enough to let us know what wws going on.
Just seen 2 8Es (one terminating at Saltley and the other Five Ways) followed by two 8As.
Have a guess... Might stop posting if they actually started turning up on time.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 28, 2016, 06:45:28 PM
Have a guess... Might stop posting if they actually started turning up on time.
Which one?
Seen more 9E than number 9 today
Today was a bad day for late running
Firstly Stourbridge services was on diversion due to a fire engine crashing through a wall and ending up on its side
Secondly merry hill was at gridlock today due to weather X96 really suffered today from both Stourbridge incident and merry hill
Quote from: karl724223 on October 01, 2016, 08:37:43 PM
Today was a bad day for late running
Firstly Stourbridge services was on diversion due to a fire engine crashing through a wall and ending up on its side
Secondly merry hill was at gridlock today due to weather X96 really suffered today from both Stourbridge incident and merry hill
244s did ok till about 1pm
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 01, 2016, 08:54:44 PM
244s did ok till about 1pm
the football diversion was put on early due to parking problems
2 244s in convoy heading To Hayley green left Halesowen at 9:25
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 07, 2016, 12:00:33 PM
2 244s in convoy heading To Hayley green left Halesowen at 9:25
It's bin day, I've been on there the last 2 days and only been late on one day
3 4H left Halesowen within 15 mins of each other
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 08, 2016, 01:54:57 PM
3 4H left Halesowen within 15 mins of each other
Which 3 were they then?
1856 & 1886 left together, but there wasn't another within 15 minutes
Quote from: Tony on October 08, 2016, 03:26:21 PM
Which 3 were they then?
1856 & 1886 left together, but there wasn't another within 15 minutes
Can you tell me how late each one was? Any reason for delay?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 08, 2016, 05:11:05 PM
Can you tell me how late each one was? Any reason for delay?
Someone must of filled it up on diesel not red bull, guess it'd have to sit in the traffic.
Quote from: Dom on October 08, 2016, 05:32:53 PM
Someone must of filled it up on diesel not red bull, guess it'd have to sit in the traffic.
I hate when they do that lol
It was terrible yesterday with any services using Newtown Row. 51's, X51's, 934's and 935's were coming in over 20 minutes late.
Number 9 are becoming very unreliable. Branding needs changing- every 7 mins! Don't be stupid. Why are there always at least 1 in Stourbridge layby which doesn't move for ages?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 11, 2016, 12:17:09 PM
Number 9 are becoming very unreliable. Branding needs changing- every 7 mins! Don't be stupid. Why are there always at least 1 in Stourbridge layby which doesn't move for ages?
Drivers break?
Quote from: John on October 11, 2016, 12:20:52 PM
Drivers break?
Must need more drivers if that's the case
@Trident 4194 the branding states UP TO EVERY 7 mins. Mainly during the peak then settles to every 10 mins or so. Therefore the branding does not need changing...
There always 9 in the lay by most of the days where else will the drivera have a break
Ever heard a word 'layover'?? ::)
Quote from: P419 EJW on October 11, 2016, 12:58:45 PM
Ever heard a word 'layover'?? ::)
Very popular on 'On The Buses'! LOL
Quote from: Westy on October 11, 2016, 01:15:37 PM
Very popular on 'On The Buses'! LOL
Is there a "turn around Betty" I wonder? ;) ;)
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 11, 2016, 12:27:37 PM
Must need more drivers if that's the case
What if the driver is RTA'd or is awaiting relief because the stand isn't free.
A lot of services around the m5 j1/2/3 were running late due to m5 being shut
Quinto to bearwood section of Hagley rd was standstill to due to traffic getting of at j3 of m5
Terrible traffic along the Quinton/Northfield Road area. A few 22/23/29 in a short space of each other.
120s, 126s, 140 all VERY VERY LATE due to the motorway and other reasons.
3 28s have all just left Hawthorn Road together for Scott Arms
At about 6.10pm this evening, I saw 4 45s and 2 47s in Cotteridge in the space of 5 minutes.
Quote from: j789 on October 18, 2016, 08:19:09 PM
At about 6.10pm this evening, I saw 4 45s and 2 47s in Cotteridge in the space of 5 minutes.
Heading outbound from the City!
2101???
What about 2101?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 21, 2016, 05:47:31 PM
Wondered how late he was
If you don't know how late he was how do you know he was late at all? Do you have any logic?
One I remembered from yesterday evening, there were 5 17s all behind each other, on the Coventry Road approaching Bordesley Circus. :o
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 21, 2016, 05:47:31 PM
Wondered how late he was
Even if I could be bothered to look, how could I? no time, no location, not even a date
My dad said he waited an hour for the X51 this evening from about 6:15
Glad I finished work early today!
Quote from: Kevin on October 21, 2016, 08:27:10 PM
My dad said he waited an hour for the X51 this evening from about 6:15
Glad I finished work early today!
Quite possibly, see diversions thread
Quote from: Kevin on October 21, 2016, 08:27:10 PM
My dad said he waited an hour for the X51 this evening from about 6:15
Glad I finished work early today!
wonder how many 51s he let past?!
Quote from: BU07 LGO on October 23, 2016, 06:05:27 PM
wonder how many 51s he let past?!
Did mention that to him and his response was that the real time screen should have said about the delays
What did people do in the past before apps and rti
Quote from: karl724223 on October 23, 2016, 06:48:55 PM
What did people do in the past before apps and rti
I used to just sit/stand patiently. Of course, I remember a time when not all bus stops even had any timetable information at all! ;D
Even nowadays, with apps and RTI, when I'm stood at Bordesley Station and the next 900 or 957 is 'due' in 20 or so minutes, I'll just get on the next 58/59/60 and take my chances :D
Quote from: karl724223 on October 23, 2016, 06:48:55 PM
What did people do in the past before apps and rti
Sit at bus stops assuming the bus would run on time and get even more frustrated than in the present day
It's a useful thing, technology
Why does the 1937 X96 Stourbridge - Wrens Nest always run late. Every time I catch it (Monday to Wednesday) it's always up to 10 minutes late
Today it was 7 down off Stourbridge.
Anyone...
Quote from: the trainbasher on October 25, 2016, 12:38:05 AM
Why does the 1937 X96 Stourbridge - Wrens Nest always run late. Every time I catch it (Monday to Wednesday) it's always up to 10 minutes late
Today it was 7 down off Stourbridge.
Anyone...
I used to deliberately run late on routes. Only so I can floor it down the route. Other drivers do it too.
Quote from: the trainbasher on October 25, 2016, 12:38:05 AM
Why does the 1937 X96 Stourbridge - Wrens Nest always run late. Every time I catch it (Monday to Wednesday) it's always up to 10 minutes late
Today it was 7 down off Stourbridge.
Anyone...
7 minutes ay that bad (not very late running), maybe it was due it earlier traffic problems and was still trying to recover???
Worst lateness for an X96 I have experienced was a Sunday last year where roadworks and Merry Hill traffic caused a 45 minute delay!!
Yesterday evening ~6pm there was an X51 to Cannock due in "10 mins"
If it was then it was 45 late because the last Cannock run is 17:25
Quote from: Chris on October 25, 2016, 05:47:31 AM
Worst lateness for an X96 I have experienced was a Sunday last year where roadworks and Merry Hill traffic caused a 45 minute delay!!
That's the day they swapped the running boards over at merry hill, then instantly they were both back on time
WB 5 running in threes again today, seen a couple of Beggars Bush short runnings
2 x10 in convoy pretty much
2 244 in convoy going to Dudley from Halesowen 11:35
The Sutton lines were running together this morning, a lot more than usual. 4 came into Sutton at the same time Outbound around 9.30am
Service 222 255 very late running due to brockmoor having a complete road closure for gas works. Due to finish end off week
222 246 255 had to be put on diversion today missing out brierly hill high street reason a car had been dumped at the side of the road last night and it was still there till about mid day
Where was the traffic wardens very good question
@the trainbasher
Quote from: karl724223 on November 01, 2016, 07:53:59 PM
Where was the traffic wardens
Don't get me started on bloody traffic wardens.
Best thing to do, change the spelling or better yet, make up a random name to put as the registered keeper on your vehicle. Then ignore all tickets.
Quote from: MW on November 01, 2016, 08:09:29 PM
Don't get me started on bloody traffic wardens.
Best thing to do, change the spelling or better yet, make up a random name to put as the registered keeper on your vehicle. Then ignore all tickets.
Then it won't be insured and you risk police ANPR cameras picking it up
Quote from: Tony on November 01, 2016, 08:33:48 PM
Then it won't be insured and you risk police ANPR cameras picking it up
Why wouldn't it be insured and what would the ANPR risk be?
As long as you've got a licence and you're named on the insurance, there's no risk.
Just seen 3 24 buses right behind one another in town. They can't be this late at this time surely?
Quote from: MasterPlan on November 09, 2016, 07:27:49 AM
Just seen 3 24 buses right behind one another in town. They can't be this late at this time surely?
Morning peak for a route that uses Birmingham city centre! Come on
Had a 29 and a 29E at Steelhouse Lane at half 3. The former later on being revised to a 29E. And on the way back I saw a 29 overtaking another 29 on the Harborne Park Road. I still can't understand why it goes all the way to Frankley. I can't imagine there's many passengers using it to go to Frankley when you've got the 61/63 for that.
Quote from: MasterPlan on November 11, 2016, 05:45:59 PM
Had a 29 and a 29E at Steelhouse Lane at half 3. The former later on being revised to a 29E. And on the way back I saw a 29 overtaking another 29 on the Harborne Park Road. I still can't understand why it goes all the way to Frankley. I can't imagine there's many passengers using it to go to Frankley when you've got the 61/63 for that.
The 61/3 don't go to Harborne or Wesley Castle and the 29 helps connect these areas to Frankley.
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on November 11, 2016, 05:53:28 PM
The 61/3 don't go to Harborne or Wesley Castle and the 29 helps connect these areas to Frankley.
To be fair I can't imagine there's much demand for travel between Harborne or Weoley Castle and Frankley. Main reason for extending the 29 to Frankley was to maintain the frequency of service to Northfield for the roads around Merritts Brook after the 61 was re-routed.
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on November 11, 2016, 05:53:28 PM
The 61/3 don't go to Harborne or Wesley Castle and the 29 helps connect these areas to Frankley.
I can't imagine there's much of a demand for that either in all honesty. If I'm not mistaken we had the 49 in Weoley Castle at one point that went to Frankley. That didn't last long.
18:25 X51 from city was showing as "due" at right time (ie presumably tracking and so presumably in the city centre at that time on the route intended for it)
As yet 20 mins later hasn't shown up
1831 276 from Mary Stevens Park to Dudley is very late tonight...only arrived at 1849
1815 81 running 20 mins down, I've got home the same time I would of by doing the 276 and 82!
And to top off my wait for an X51... There's now someone lying down in there middle of Old Square in town so nothings moving
Edit: ambulance and police in attendance
There were 2 presidents in convoy on the 48 in harborne at 13:30 heading to West Bromwich
The 900 I caught this morning at 8:28am (from Swan Island/Broadyates Road towards city) must have been 15mins late, as it was ram-packed, and another one was showing as due in the next 5 minutes.
The 07:29 76 service to Solihull at Kings Heath never showed up.
WB 5 in chaos already this morning. Looks like a crash on the Queslett Road just after Scott Arms, saw 4 buses stuck in the traffic and that was only 200 yards of road
Quote from: Kevin on November 23, 2016, 07:20:19 AM
WB 5 in chaos already this morning. Looks like a crash on the Queslett Road just after Scott Arms, saw 4 buses stuck in the traffic and that was only 200 yards of road
FFS
Quote from: Kevin on November 23, 2016, 07:20:19 AM
WB 5 in chaos already this morning. Looks like a crash on the Queslett Road just after Scott Arms, saw 4 buses stuck in the traffic and that was only 200 yards of road
Announced on radio, it's just after the Scott arms to asda.
Hell of a lot of traffic around West Brom this morning, 74's seem screwed to say the least an hour between Dudley and WB
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 23, 2016, 09:31:08 AM
Announced on radio, it's just after the Scott arms to asda.
Like I already said. No?
Quote from: Kevin on November 23, 2016, 12:01:57 PM
Like I already said. No?
Was confirming what you said looks like
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 23, 2016, 12:37:22 PM
Was confirming what you said looks like
No, you were confirming a location which I had already stated
Been stuck on the Quinton Road for over half an hour now. These floods on the Harborne Lane are affecting things badly.
Is there problems in Dudley again?
This time last year, according to Facebook, there was massive delays there & I had to wait well over an hour on the 311/313 corridor as was for a bus to turn up.
Tonight, its currently 10 mins for the next one, then the next one is roughly 25 mins after that !
Quote from: Westy on December 01, 2016, 05:47:42 PM
Is there problems in Dudley again?
This time last year, according to Facebook, there was massive delays there & I had to wait well over an hour on the 311/313 corridor as was for a bus to turn up.
Tonight, its currently 10 mins for the next one, then the next one is roughly 25 mins after that !
Delays every day in dudley due to car drivers using fisher Street and Birmingham street despite a sign stating buses, taxis and licenced private hire only
Thing is the signs also allow access
Quote from: the trainbasher on December 01, 2016, 08:55:16 PM
Thing is the signs also allow access
peak hour you can't get in or out the bus station some buses have to use the road by the old Rick shaw to get out
Quote from: karl724223 on December 01, 2016, 09:15:57 PM
peak hour you can't get in or out the bus station some buses have to use the road by the old Rick shaw to get out
Tbf that's the best way out for the 120,140,241 etc.
Quote from: pndriver on December 01, 2016, 08:03:53 PM
Delays every day in dudley due to car drivers using fisher Street and Birmingham street despite a sign stating buses, taxis and licenced private hire only
can't they have cameras to catch the cars drivers I know it says about access but they can change that to help the buses & taxis /private hire
Legally it's a moving traffic offence so only the police can prosecute. Now if it was a bus lane and the council had the powers to do so, we could place bus lane cameras like Sandwell do to enforce
The thing is the privately owned car park is right by the bus station plus the service yard for Kwik Save
Quote from: the trainbasher on December 01, 2016, 11:39:32 PM
Legally it's a moving traffic offence so only the police can prosecute. Now if it was a bus lane and the council had the powers to do so, we could place bus lane cameras like Sandwell do to enforce
The thing is the privately owned car park is right by the bus station plus the service yard for Kwik Save
and who owns the land the car park is on that is going to be a metro station one day
Centro tfwm
Quote from: the trainbasher on December 01, 2016, 11:39:32 PM
Legally it's a moving traffic offence so only the police can prosecute. Now if it was a bus lane and the council had the powers to do so, we could place bus lane cameras like Sandwell do to enforce
The thing is the privately owned car park is right by the bus station plus the service yard for Kwik Save
So basically to use the car park you have to break the law?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 02, 2016, 01:26:22 PM
So basically to use the car park you have to break the law?
No because the sign says 'and access' so if you are accessing the car park you are allowed to use the road
Quote from: Tony on December 02, 2016, 02:15:42 PM
No because the sign says 'and access' so if you are accessing the car park you are allowed to use the road
Thanks
@Tony for the clarification, have used that car park numerous times but have always been a bit hessitant especially when approaching it from the bus station side.
I'm fully expecting A34/A38 services to suffer in spectacular fashion today
Saturday before Christmas traffic coupled with the impressively timed three way lights by the law courts
Quote from: Tony on December 02, 2016, 02:15:42 PM
No because the sign says 'and access' so if you are accessing the car park you are allowed to use the road
Technically there is a sign that says access to car park but it's been placed there by the operator of the car park. Bus station supervisors and inspectors have been monitoring the traffic. Bus station supervisors have even had to start holding the cars up so buses can get out.
There was a man filming all the cars coming through from castle Street a few weeks ago. Inspectors have been using iPads to take photos.
The signs contradict them selves.
When coming off Hall St there is left and right turn lanes only and if a car in either lane wants to go straight over with the bus to access the car park then potential disaster. ( good luck insurance companies ).
Don't think that "Access to Car Park" sign would have legality if it was challenged in a court of law?
They need to get the signs changed to only buses /private hire with cameras to catch the car drivers that ignore the signs
As I said, as far as I'm aware it would be classed as a moving traffic offence so only the old bill can do anything at this juncture
The X64, due at 6:28, 22 minutes late and the following one due at 6:43, 7 minutes late. This is exactly why I stopped getting this joke of a service. Bring back the 21 for God's sake .
Quote from: MasterPlan on December 05, 2016, 10:52:39 AM
The X64, due at 6:28, 22 minutes late and the following one due at 6:43, 7 minutes late. This is exactly why I stopped getting this joke of a service. Bring back the 21 for God's sake .
In my years of bussing to uni I don't remember the 21 ever being that reliable itself
Quote from: Kevin on December 05, 2016, 11:58:26 AM
In my years of bussing to uni I don't remember the 21 ever being that reliable itself
Well no service is perfect but it was a lot better than the X64
Most Birmingham services seem to have suffered this morning. 4 120s have just left Colmore Row, 2 Tridents and 2B7RLEs. Perry Barr express services running in 2s and 3s. Sutton services also in 3s. 51s and 52s also running in 2s
No number 9 from Stourbridge since 10:10 due to an accident in colley gate
Quote from: pndriver on December 08, 2016, 11:12:36 AM
No number 9 from Stourbridge since 10:10 due to an accident in colley gate
5 Stourbridge bound 9s just arrived into Halesowen together. One has been adJusted as it was an E to Halesowen
We are crawling out of Halesowen on the Stourbridge Road, temporary 3 way lights too holding up the service
Looks like theres a problem on the Wednesfield corridor as sister has been waiting for an 89 for ages.
She's just got one back to Bloxwich.
Least she's on a dd, unlike me on the Dudley to Walsall route!
All Hagley road services were screwed again tonight my X10 was a hour late getting to colmore row
4631 decided he was just going to terminate at harborne despite on blinds stating wood gate valley. Driver " done his hours". Awful customer service again.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 10, 2016, 07:38:08 PM
4631 decided he was just going to terminate at harborne despite on blinds stating wood gate valley. Driver " done his hours". Awful customer service again.
What would you like him to do?
Carry on past his hours illegally, have an accident and get prosecuted for injuring people?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 10, 2016, 07:38:08 PM
4631 decided he was just going to terminate at harborne despite on blinds stating wood gate valley. Driver " done his hours". Awful customer service again.
If the driver didn't do that, he & NX could have potentially got a fine for that. It's a legal requirement so even NX can only do so much.
Quote from: Tony on December 10, 2016, 07:56:45 PM
What would you like him to do?
Carry on past his hours illegally, have an accident and get prosecuted for injuring people?
Display harborne to start with
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 10, 2016, 08:26:38 PM
Display harborne to start with
He was on time leaving city so didn't know he would run out of hours. Anyway drivers don't just do that, a supervisor will have told him to transfer passengers
Quote from: Tony on December 10, 2016, 08:28:41 PM
He was on time leaving city so didn't know he would run out of hours. Anyway drivers don't just do that, a supervisor will have told him to transfer passengers
Supervisor on radio? No supervisors in sight on bus
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 10, 2016, 08:57:02 PM
Supervisor on radio? No supervisors in sight on bus
Well duh! You do know that buses can be tracked by inspectors and traffic office....
M6 causing chaos to Walsall Road buses again
07:15 X51 off Scott Arms getting into town about 20 late
In in today's commuter land joy:
Roadworks on Dale End in city centre is legit causing standstill on Lancaster Circus
This is how terrible the city centre's road network has become
9s are screwed, 6103 on a 9E followed by three normal 9s
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 13, 2016, 02:29:57 PM
9s are screwed, 6103 on a 9E followed by three normal 9s
Makes me wonder if Hagley Rd is snarled up - 126 seems a bit infrequent this arvo.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 13, 2016, 02:29:57 PM
9s are screwed, 6103 on a 9E followed by three normal 9s
The only 9 running with 6103 is 6112
Quote from: WMT3000 on December 13, 2016, 02:38:22 PM
Makes me wonder if Hagley Rd is snarled up - 126 seems a bit infrequent this arvo.
Hagley Road all clear, I've just come down it.
Quote from: Dom on December 13, 2016, 03:43:15 PM
Hagley Road all clear, I've just come down it.
Can take less than a minute for traffic to start backing up and hours for it to clear.
Quote from: Tony on December 13, 2016, 02:42:03 PM
The only 9 running with 6103 is 6112
And the 2 streetdecks this was at 13:30 in Halesowen
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 13, 2016, 04:55:27 PM
And the 2 streetdecks this was at 13:30 in Halesowen
OK, I'll give you 3, I was looking at Halesowen when you actually posted it and 6103 was going towards Stourbridge, but you are still exaggerating
6103 was there at 13:31
6110 was there at 13:32 both running late
3301 was there at 13:32 on time
3304 was there at 13:39 on time
Quote from: Tony on December 13, 2016, 05:36:40 PM
OK, I'll give you 3, I was looking at Halesowen when you actually posted it and 6103 was going towards Stourbridge, but you are still exaggerating
6103 was there at 13:31
6110 was there at 13:32 both running late
3301 was there at 13:32 on time
3304 was there at 13:39 on time
Ok didn't realise latter two were on time. Thanks for confirmation.
One 276 had to be adjusted this evening meaning a 50 minute gap for Norton Road buses towards Stourbridge
@Trident 4194 you always moan about the 9s being late to be honest it's December, 12 days til Christmas and the buses are busier than normal! You know when 4194 gets withdrawn what will you don haha sorry couldn't resist there.
Someone please tell me it's joking...that's it's not this badly late...
X96s are running late at the moment
Quote from: the trainbasher on December 13, 2016, 07:23:46 PM
Someone please tell me it's joking...that's it's not this badly late...
One X96 is currently running 33 min late, another 24
Looks like I'm not getting home til late tonight then!
(Just what I need after a busy day...surely they've heard of adjusting it!)
Quote from: the trainbasher on December 13, 2016, 07:32:14 PM
Looks like I'm not getting home til late tonight then!
(Just what I need after a busy day...surely they've heard of adjusting it!)
Not a lot you can do when bus is stuck not moving in traffic at Merry Hill, doesn't matter whether it as X96 or Not in service on the front
Quote from: the trainbasher on December 13, 2016, 07:32:14 PM
Looks like I'm not getting home til late tonight then!
(Just what I need after a busy day...surely they've heard of adjusting it!)
If it's not got another one with it the result of adjusting it proves ineffective. If there are two running together then adjusting it would be a good idea but since its on it's own there is no benefit.
And there's only two buses on there
Quote from: Tony on December 13, 2016, 07:38:40 PM
Not a lot you can do when bus is stuck not moving in traffic at Merry Hill, doesn't matter whether it as X96 or Not in service on the front
That is why they should never have cross Merry Hill services.
Quote from: karl724223 on December 13, 2016, 07:42:52 PM
And there's only two buses on there
There's actually still 3 out there!
My X14 at 5.00pm at Aston Uni came with the 2 before. The 4.20pm relief is the bus that gets swamped with school kids. Don't know about the 4.40pm bus. Had a quiet outbound trip, then the one in front got adjusted in Sutton. I then got 2 bus loads of people. Not running too badly late, back on time for my last trip to the Uni
The 13:02 241 ex Halesowen appeared not to operate.
PB 4276 and 4290 running in convoy on the 65 at the moment
18:15 Aston Station inbound
Could well be diversion related if that's still on, but neither seem really busy
Edit
According to the driver at one point this afternoon 6 buses all on the 65 passed each other (3 one way and 3 the other) around Salford Circus
Coleshill Road was hammered earlier, 28s were running in pairs and trios in both directions, it took me an hour to do what is normally a 15 minute journey.
2 x10 were showing as due within 3 mins of each other this morning
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 23, 2016, 04:40:18 PM
2 x10 were showing as due within 3 mins of each other this morning
again no time given or direction of travel given
Quote from: karl724223 on December 23, 2016, 05:00:17 PM
again no time given or direction of travel given
10:39 from Halesowen to brum
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 23, 2016, 05:01:19 PM
10:39 from Halesowen to brum
Plus is there any point posting here especially this week of the year. Do they teach common sense on Seaseme Street?
Quote from: karl724223 on December 23, 2016, 05:00:17 PM
again no time given or direction of travel given
It was the 10:10 departure, arrived at merry hill at 10:30 after running dead from garage. Driver was told to run it in service.
Well F*ck me my bus is taking ages. I've been waiting for well over an hour. I know it's a Sunday but damn ! It was like this last year as well ;D
My Christmas dinner was running 49 minutes late today despite me putting it on on time.
Lol
The 3.14pm 997 from NBC Beeches Road into Birmingham was running together with the 2.44pm bus. Passed them both at the Boars Head
All services around messy hell were running very late today
Quote from: karl724223 on December 27, 2016, 08:32:52 PM
All services around messy hell were running very late today
Some stil are! The 81 is still running late, the 1910 didn't turn up til about 1935. Almost back on time now though. The X96 were completely screwed, the 1538 from dudley towards Wollaston left merry Hill towards the wrena at 1606, so well over an hour late. X10's didn't seem too bad though, one was 30 odd down with another on time behind it.
First "extra" X51 this morning (06:30 off Scott Arms) failed to show
Quote from: Kevin on December 28, 2016, 06:57:08 AM
First "extra" X51 this morning (06:30 off Scott Arms) failed to show
Neither did the 0558 81 from Roseville
Lichfield Road absolute madness tonight. Expressway out of City closed overnight and no access to the M6 from Salford Circus. Approach to Salford Circus down to one lane, and the traffic lights on the Island were not green for very long. About 10 seconds before changing back and then a long wait for the next cycle. Traffic queuing back past Aston Station almost to the island. Taking nearly 20 minutes a time to get through. Surely the traffic would flow better if the lights were turned off overnight as the traffic coming around Salford Circus was very light
I was running around half an hour late all night on the 67, the other one seemed to be running even later, I passed it at Spitfire Island leaving the Vale at 00.03, where I think that would have been the 11.00pm from Castle Vale. I don't know if he caught up time by the time he reached City or it missed it's last entire round trip. I was virtually following him as I picked no-one at all up heading to City, and finally left around 12.35am, should have been 12.02am
Strange thing is that I had the same duty last night, with the same traffic and I just about managed to keep to time. I can not remember the lights changing that quick last night
Quote from: John on January 27, 2017, 01:53:12 AM
Lichfield Road absolute madness tonight. Expressway out of City closed overnight and no access to the M6 from Salford Circus. Approach to Salford Circus down to one lane, and the traffic lights on the Island were not green for very long. About 10 seconds before changing back and then a long wait for the next cycle. Traffic queuing back past Aston Station almost to the island. Taking nearly 20 minutes a time to get through. Surely the traffic would flow better if the lights were turned off overnight as the traffic coming around Salford Circus was very light
I was running around half an hour late all night on the 67, the other one seemed to be running even later, I passed it at Spitfire Island leaving the Vale at 00.03, where I think that would have been the 11.00pm from Castle Vale. I don't know if he caught up time by the time he reached City or it missed it's last entire round trip. I was virtually following him as I picked no-one at all up heading to City, and finally left around 12.35am, should have been 12.02am
Strange thing is that I had the same duty last night, with the same traffic and I just about managed to keep to time. I can not remember the lights changing that quick last night
Even worse tonight, at one point I was 1 hour 20 minutes down. My first time through there took over 45 minutes to get from City to Salford Circus. The second was around 30 minutes. Was told to miss the 11.00pm off the Vale and 11.30pm off City and run the 12.02am from the Vale. Left on that trip around 12.15am
Sutton is in gridlock due to roadworks and 3 way lights by the Cinema. Traffic back to Boldmere on the Jockey Road, , up past the Horse & Jockey and down to the Town Centre the other way. The 77 before mine had just left NIS to Walsall 35 minutes late
On Wednesday and Thursday I waited on The Bus Mall for the 19.24 x51 Walsall departure, shown on the timetable on the bus stop and also on the realtime display. However once it reached 19.24 the service disappeared from the display and was a "no show". Has anyone else had any problems with this particular departure. The next x51 is not until an hour later and if I had known it was not going to turn up I could have caught the 51 instead.
Quote from: 37351ml on February 03, 2017, 10:58:07 PM
On Wednesday and Thursday I waited on The Bus Mall for the 19.24 x51 Walsall departure, shown on the timetable on the bus stop and also on the realtime display. However once it reached 19.24 the service disappeared from the display and was a "no show". Has anyone else had any problems with this particular departure. The next x51 is not until an hour later and if I had known it was not going to turn up I could have caught the 51 instead.
It comes in as a 937A arriving at 19:16 leaving Bull Street at 19:30
ran on time both days.
The problem is TfWM advertising it at that stop which is still a 'To City' stop when the service actually starts at Bull Street6
Thanks for clarification Tony, I did see a platinum at that time "not in service"
1862 despite arriving early.
9 at Stourbridge between 15:00 and 15:20
Services around Dudley bus station running late due to nobody policing the bus lane again
Quote from: karl724223 on February 06, 2017, 05:42:05 PM
Services around Dudley bus station running late due to nobody policing the bus lane again
Was the same this morning
Dudley delays caused my 13 to be rammed from Wednesbury to Walsall!
Quote from: karl724223 on February 06, 2017, 05:42:05 PM
Services around Dudley bus station running late due to nobody policing the bus lane again
put cameras up that will stop them when the fines pop though the letterbox at £1000 a time a points as well need to make the sign bigger or have no entry expect buses
To do that though requires permission from the Secretary of State, plus a significant cost outlay, plus camera type approval, plus agreement from Local Councillors as well as adjustments to the Traffic Regulation Orders.
Then the fine is £30 within 14 days and then £60 thereafter as it becomes Decriminalised under the Traffic Management Act.
Quote from: the trainbasher on February 07, 2017, 01:35:51 AM
To do that though requires permission from the Secretary of State, plus a significant cost outlay, plus camera type approval, plus agreement from Local Councillors as well as adjustments to the Traffic Regulation Orders.
Then the fine is £30 within 14 days and then £60 thereafter as it becomes Decriminalised under the Traffic Management Act.
Alright hitler, calm down
I've got another way around this bollocks for you. Put your logbook on a different name (if your name is Tom Jones, write Simon Jones for example. If you get pulled, that's your brother(they don't know)) As these stupid fines aren't emdorsable, you can go through every bus lane and park on any set of double yellow lines in the city. Middle finger to the establishment. I look forward to hearing your response.
12 parking "invoices" in the last 4 years. No contract with council = no payment. Good luck taking 'Simon' to the magistrates. Don't get me started on these magistrates. Not real courts but that's another issue.
Quote from: MW on February 07, 2017, 03:03:12 AM
Alright hitler, calm down
I've got another way around this bollocks for you. Put your logbook on a different name (if your name is Tom Jones, write Simon Jones for example. If you get pulled, that's your brother(they don't know)) As these stupid fines aren't emdorsable, you can go through every bus lane and park on any set of double yellow lines in the city. Middle finger to the establishment. I look forward to hearing your response.
12 parking "invoices" in the last 4 years. No contract with council = no payment. Good luck taking 'Simon' to the magistrates. Don't get me started on these magistrates. Not real courts but that's another issue.
Or indeed you could be a decent citizen.
You know, just laying out alternative ways to live one's life
According to the screen in Dudley the next 74 was 38 minutes away at 9am this morning
Quote from: Dom on February 07, 2017, 10:06:08 AM
According to the screen in Dudley the next 74 was 38 minutes away at 9am this morning
Junction 1 of the M5 rammed at about this time owing to an RTC on the M6 & a resulting diesel spillage. Major tailbacks plus additional traffic trying to get off at J1. 74s struggling to get through the junction so such delays hardly surprising.
6827, 6847 and 6845 were running together on X1 towards Birmingham seen at The Wheatsheaf around 09:40/09:45
Quote from: Pete50492 on February 07, 2017, 10:38:36 AM
Junction 1 of the M5 rammed at about this time owing to an RTC on the M6 & a resulting diesel spillage. Major tailbacks plus additional traffic trying to get off at J1. 74s struggling to get through the junction so such delays hardly surprising.
No I just found out about that. Not surprising at alll, still running upto 2 hours down as well
Delays around Dudley bus station again due to the amount of cars in a so called bus lane
Quote from: karl724223 on February 07, 2017, 02:38:15 PM
Delays around Dudley bus station again due to the amount of cars in a so called bus lane
2 244s in convoy :)
Quote from: karl724223 on February 07, 2017, 02:38:15 PM
Delays around Dudley bus station again due to the amount of cars in a so called bus lane
I think the lights are only stopping on green for a short while as the traffic was backed up on Hall St aswell.
Quote from: 979 on February 07, 2017, 04:40:42 PM
I think the lights are only stopping on green for a short while as the traffic was backed up on Hall St aswell.
lights letting 3/4 cars out then changing
Quote from: Rob2832 on February 07, 2017, 10:46:45 AM
6827, 6847 and 6845 were running together on X1 towards Birmingham seen at The Wheatsheaf around 09:40/09:45
Apparently there's some roadworks near Morrisons in Sheldon which is causing the trouble for the X1. X2s have been running on time in the mornings when I go to catch them.
Dudley is atrocious once again this morning. On my way back from the gym and get caught in Dudley Bus Station for 15 mins
Quote from: Dom on February 08, 2017, 09:24:03 AM
Dudley is atrocious once again this morning. On my way back from the gym and get caught in Dudley Bus Station for 15 mins
the tfwm staff are saying the problem lies with Dudley council
@the trainbasher
Not enough parking tickets being given out
Quote from: MW on February 08, 2017, 04:50:43 PM
Not enough parking tickets being given out
they hang around Russell's hall hospital easy targets to put tickets on
Quote from: karl724223 on February 08, 2017, 08:31:05 PM
they hang around Russell's hall hospital easy targets to put tickets on
That is soo true as I always see them around City Hospital.
Quote from: 979 on February 08, 2017, 10:38:10 PM
That is soo true as I always see them around City Hospital.
easy money and they know they won't get cought putting tickets on the cars
They're a bunch of scumbags
Problems in brum? Delays on 9?
Quote from: Tony on February 09, 2017, 05:13:24 PM
No, Birmingham's fine
No 9 in Stourbridge for 20 mins on tracker and had been waiting at least 5 mins
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 09, 2017, 05:22:58 PM
No 9 in Stourbridge for 20 mins on tracker and had been waiting at least 5 mins
At what time
Accident at the Royal Oak, there was no 20 min gap at Stourbridge. I was down there. There was however a small delay and a large number of students waiting at the the same time.
The 15:51; 15:59 & 1607 all left on time
The 16:14 got delayed by 17 minutes by the accident.
The 16:22 didn't get to Stourbridge
The 16:29 was on time
So there was a 20 minute gap, but not after a 5 min wait
Quote from: Tony on February 09, 2017, 06:04:01 PM
The 15:51; 15:59 & 1607 all left on time
The 16:14 got delayed by 17 minutes by the accident.
The 16:22 didn't get to Stourbridge
The 16:29 was on time
So there was a 20 minute gap, but not after a 5 min wait
Ah ok must have just missed 16:07
Commonside is choka from Pensnett of Brierley Hill, 2 255s within metres of each other
3 x10s In convoy and a crap load of 9s? Trouble in brum??
Yesterday's 17.50 x1 ex cov was a no show at the wheatsheaf due 18.48. I had worked out it should have been 6846 as that had worked the 0702 departure that morning however that sped past not in service around 18.40.
2 126's leaving wolves together, AVL running these well I see. Why I still stand by my point that they should be managed by inspectors.
Quote from: Dom on February 21, 2017, 12:11:37 PM
2 126's leaving wolves together, AVL running these well I see. Why I still stand by my point that they should be managed by inspectors.
Well it's better than what the number 9s do in Stourbridge.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 17, 2017, 11:50:33 AM
3 x10s In convoy and a crap load of 9s? Trouble in brum??
I now this was a late post to respond but having checked the red button on the BBC that night too see where my girlfriend was and why she was late. I think there was a accident around Salford Circus on the A38 outta City with queues stretching back to Lancaster Circus also I think be another accident someone else in the city and roadworks. Also on the X10 route in Cradley Heath they are doing roadworks which means all buses that serve high street it miss out High Street and divert somewhere else I forgot now where it goes does that help you of why you saw buses queuing up behind each other.
Quote from: BusFan94 on February 22, 2017, 05:26:08 PM
I now this was a late post to respond but having checked the red button on the BBC that night too see where my girlfriend was and why she was late. I think there was a accident around Salford Circus on the A38 outta City with queues stretching back to Lancaster Circus also I think be another accident someone else in the city and roadworks. Also on the X10 route in Cradley Heath they are doing roadworks which means all buses that serve high street it miss out High Street and divert somewhere else I forgot now where it goes does that help you of why you saw buses queuing up behind each other.
Yes but he posted that at 11:50 in the morning.
No there wasn't any problems in Birmingham
Oh I didn't look at the time
Delays pensnett road Bryce road temp lights and road works 222/255
Quote from: karl724223 on February 23, 2017, 05:24:55 PM
Delays pensnett road Bryce road temp lights and road works 222/255
They were there Monday and Tuesday. Disappeared Wednesday and back today... wish the council would make up their bloody minds with the road works, when's the "grand" pensnett junctions work suppose to start. Thought they were starting end of January and will cause alot of chaos. Is that junction that bad it needs to be changed?
16s in disarray the past few days, roadworks in Hamstead Village causing chaos
@Chris sometime within the next two months
The 12:25 29 from town is currently 22 minutes late. Apparently the 12:10 bus didn't turn up either.
26 mins and I've given up. The X64 and a much longer walk seem preferable right now as to avoid being late.
Quote from: MasterPlan on March 10, 2017, 12:47:38 PM
The 12:25 29 from town is currently 22 minutes late. Apparently the 12:10 bus didn't turn up either.
26 mins and I've given up. The X64 and a much longer walk seem preferable right now as to avoid being late.
No need to exaggerate.
the 12:10 ran spot on time
the 12:25 didn't run. I don't know why, other than the bus remained at Colmore Circus.
the 12:40 ran on time
Quote from: Tony on March 10, 2017, 02:15:29 PM
No need to exaggerate.
the 12:10 ran spot on time
the 12:25 didn't run. I don't know why, other than the bus remained at Colmore Circus.
the 12:40 ran on time
I didn't? Some guy at the bus stop told me about the one before. As for the 12:40 bus I left Smallbrook Queensway at 12:51
Quote from: MasterPlan on March 10, 2017, 04:42:23 PM
I didn't? Some guy at the bus stop told me about the one before. As for the 12:40 bus I left Smallbrook Queensway at 12:51
You said you gave up!
Quote from: Tony on March 10, 2017, 06:16:55 PM
You said you gave up!
Yes because I'd waited almost half an hour and if I waited any longer I'd have been late!
Quote from: MasterPlan on March 10, 2017, 07:52:53 PM
Yes because I'd waited almost half an hour and if I waited any longer I'd have been late!
So you were actually waiting for the 12:33 (which didn't run), and gave up on the 12:48 after 3 minutes despite the realtime on the stop telling you it was two minutes away?,
Quote from: Tony on March 10, 2017, 08:10:57 PM
So you were actually waiting for the 12:33 (which didn't run), and gave up on the 12:48 after 3 minutes despite the realtime on the stop telling you it was two minutes away?,
Yes I was. There is no realtime on the Smallbrook Queensway stop. I had to get the X64 just incase that 29 didn't show up either.
Quote from: MasterPlan on March 10, 2017, 08:13:12 PM
Yes I was. There is no realtime on the Smallbrook Queensway stop. I had to get the X64 just incase that 29 didn't show up either.
You see your original post said the 12:25 was 22 minutes late, It wasn't as you were waiting for the 12:33. There was no 22 minute gap in the service.
Surprised you haven't got either TfWM of NX app on your phone so you can see all stops on real time
It's 12:25 from the terminus is it not? That's what it says on the timetable online. Yes I do have the app, but that also kept saying "3 mins" or "4 mins" for the one that didn't show up so I couldn't risk it.
6764 and an Enviro200 on 69 were following each other in New Invention going towards Walsall, seen around 16:50-ish. 6764 not in service going out Walsall.
All Hagley road services from 2245 police incident at the ivy bush
Quote from: karl724223 on March 23, 2017, 02:02:01 AM
All Hagley road services from 2245 police incident at the ivy bush
Further on the information that
@karl724223 has reported.
- Armed police have been involved in a raid at a hotel in Birmingham this evening, closing off part of the city for more than two hours.
- Dozens of officers, some response and some with weapons, were seen swooping an address near to the Bearwood part of the city this evening.
- Hagley Road was closed for a period of time and then reopened.
- BBC Newsnight has claimed the vehicle used in the terror attacks could have been rented from the same road.
- West Midlands Police gave a short statement earlier, which read: 'There is an ongoing police operation, no further details are being given at this stage.
4722, 4723, 4731, 4724, 4720 all just seen leaving city on the 35 all in service to Hawkesley, by the coach station.
4 nifty-50 MMCs seen leaving within a few minutes as well. One E to Alcester Lane, one not in service and the other two to Druids Heath.
City appears to be gridlocked.
13:13 from the Edgbaston Old Church stop on the AG 1 towards Five Ways was 4527 and 20 minutes late.
13:33 from the Edgbaston Old Church stop on the AG 1 towards Five Ways was 6702 and 20 minutes late.
Quote from: 2206 on March 25, 2017, 04:16:09 PM
13:13 from the Edgbaston Old Church stop on the AG 1 towards Five Ways was 4527 and 20 minutes late.
13:33 from the Edgbaston Old Church stop on the AG 1 towards Five Ways was 4527 and 20 minutes late.
Don't think 4527 could of operated both journeys.
Quote from: Dom on March 25, 2017, 04:17:22 PM
Don't think 4527 could of operated both journeys.
6702 was the 13:33.
The trackers was saying that the 9s were screwed but in actual fact they weren't too bad??
Quote from: Dom on March 25, 2017, 03:13:19 PM
4722, 4723, 4731, 4724, 4720 all just seen leaving city on the 35 all in service to Hawkesley, by the coach station.
4 nifty-50 MMCs seen leaving within a few minutes as well. One E to Alcester Lane, one not in service and the other two to Druids Heath.
City appears to be gridlocked.
9
Stops MS3 & MS4 were suspended today; one lane was cordoned off from traffic as a mobile crane was erecting another (so I hear) to (supposedly) start works on the new Primark in place of the Pavilions. I mean, I guess it doesn't take a genius to put 2 and 2 together to say that this was the main cause of the chaos. :P
Buses serving those stops were picking up/letting off passengers from the 97 stop on Moor Street, as far as I know. It also seemed as if buses were unable to make the turn at Moor Street, as I noticed an MMC on the 50(E) coming from the Millennium Point region to get back on route. Minor diversion, but a diversion nonetheless.
Quote from: clayderman on March 25, 2017, 10:55:34 PM
9
Stops MS3 & MS4 were suspended today; one lane was cordoned off from traffic as a mobile crane was erecting another (so I hear) to (supposedly) start works on the new Primark in place of the Pavilions. I mean, I guess it doesn't take a genius to put 2 and 2 together to say that this was the main cause of the chaos. :P
Saw it at 06:00 yesterday morning and it was already a bit chaotic, figured it'd only get worse through the day lol
6118 running 15 late on the 241, and so conveniently 3 mins in front of the Diamond 4H on it's way round Hasbury
Quote from: Kevin on March 26, 2017, 02:01:21 PM
6118 running 15 late on the 241, and so conveniently 3 mins in front of the Diamond 4H on it's way round Hasbury
NX would never do such a thing. Oh wait it seems they are and more often than not nowadays.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 26, 2017, 02:29:03 PM
NX would never do such a thing. Oh wait it seems they are and more often than not nowadays.
Yes, of course a driver deliberately goes looking for traffic jams in Birmingham just to be deliberately late on the 4H. One day you might get outside Halesowen and see the real world.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 26, 2017, 02:29:03 PM
NX would never do such a thing. Oh wait it seems they are and more often than not nowadays.
Somehow was expecting you to bite
Anyway getting away from the usual diatribe against NX, I was in the City Centre yesterday after a while and I wasn't aware of the works that are going on so it was a surprise. Further to Clayderman's point, the suspended stops were stopping at the 97 stop, or just before it allowing for the 97 buses to get in. They didn't seem to be laying over which was a good thing as I reckon that would have caused further congestion although why didn't some services stop at the 17 stop ? Additionally the 35 & 50 were going up Carrs Lane to turn around.
Quote from: Tony on March 26, 2017, 02:48:34 PM
Yes, of course a driver deliberately goes looking for traffic jams in Birmingham just to be deliberately late on the 4H. One day you might get outside Halesowen and see the real world.
But of course if diamond were late you would be saying there a cowboy company who are running deliberately late to jeapodise nx.
Once again the biased forum strikes again
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 26, 2017, 04:22:45 PM
But of course if diamond were late you would be saying there a cowboy company who are running deliberately late to jeapodise nx.
Once again the biased forum strikes again
@Trident 4194 why do you continue with this forum if you think it is so biased?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 26, 2017, 04:22:45 PM
But of course if diamond were late you would be saying there a cowboy company who are running deliberately late to jeapodise nx.
Once again the biased forum strikes again
I have never accused Diamond of that. I drive buses, I know what happens and why buses run together, occasionally you get a rogue driver who thinks it's clever to race or block another company, but neither company instructs the other to do it and most drivers just want to come to work earn some money and go home on time. They are not going to run 15 minutes late to maybe pinch a passenger.
Quote from: Tony on March 26, 2017, 04:46:57 PM
I have never accused Diamond of that. I drive buses, I know what happens and why buses run together, occasionally you get a rogue driver who thinks it's clever to race or block another company, but neither company instructs the other to do it and most drivers just want to come to work earn some money and go home on time. They are not going to run 15 minutes late to maybe pinch a passenger.
Fair enough, but to me it just seems that 'traffic' is the excuse all the time. You see 3 9s together and just say traffic as an excuse
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 26, 2017, 06:04:11 PM
Fair enough, but to me it just seems that 'traffic' is the excuse all the time. You see 3 9s together and just say traffic as an excuse
No other company in the West Midlands really runs a route frequent enough for that to happen
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 26, 2017, 06:04:11 PM
Fair enough, but to me it just seems that 'traffic' is the excuse all the time. You see 3 9s together and just say traffic as an excuse
Because buses DON'T have wings to fly over traffic and yes it does happen go to Birmingham and watch the batching that happens due to yes TRAFFIC, let's bring your precious diamond into this. I finished work last week and and missed the 255, so I decided to get the 226 which is normally 5 mins after the 255. Which it arrived 10 mins late and on my way back the 226 got stuck in traffic by Wordsley and the Hanson's 226 was hot on it's heels! So Diamond do come late! And the 002 at rush hour you often see two 002 Arrive at Merry Hill together!
Could be worse.
Could be waiting for Thandi on the Dudley to Walsall corridor after 5pm.
They either vanish or run as shorts to Wednesbury only!
Saw 2 4Ms arriving in merry hill about 15:00.
SAW 2 DIAMOND 4HS IN CONVOY TOO BEFORE CERTAIN PEOPLE THROW THEIR DUMMIES OUT THE PRAM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 31, 2017, 03:43:56 PM
Saw 2 4Hs arriving in merry hill about 15:00.
SAW 2 DIAMOND 4HS IN CONVOY TOO BEFORE CERTAIN PEOPLE THROW THEIR DUMMIES OUT THE PRAM
do u mean 4m ???
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 31, 2017, 03:43:56 PM
Saw 2 4Ms arriving in merry hill about 15:00.
SAW 2 DIAMOND 4HS IN CONVOY TOO BEFORE CERTAIN PEOPLE THROW THEIR DUMMIES OUT THE PRAM
People wouldn't throw their dummies out the pram if you didn't post the same crap day in day out.
Please don't hate...
2 x10s in convoy
Has been cleared now but a bad accident at the Fox & Goose is causing mayhem as all services except 11 & 28 are being diverted here there and everywhere, As the 55A I was on turned onto Drews Lane then onto Bromford Lane & hit queues coming up to the lights at the Fox & then turning on to Coleshill Road. Saw a city bound 94 turning right onto Bromford Road by the Hunter's Moon while on a 28. Police were in attendance blocking traffic from going down Washwood Heath Road when I went past about 18:35
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 07, 2017, 05:29:32 PM
Please don't hate...
2 x10s in convoy
Did you happen to see the 3 oo2's together or the 2 diamond 4H's together ?
Quote from: pndriver on April 07, 2017, 09:21:27 PM
Did you happen to see the 3 oo2's together or the 2 diamond 4H's together ?
Don't be silly
Quote from: pndriver on April 07, 2017, 09:21:27 PM
Did you happen to see the 3 oo2's together or the 2 diamond 4H's together ?
I didn't see the 3 002s together.. What time was that?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 07, 2017, 09:47:36 PM
I didn't see the 3 002s together.. What time was that?
Sometime between 2:30 and 3pm
Quote from: pndriver on April 07, 2017, 10:06:48 PM
Sometime between 2:30 and 3pm
Oh right I saw the majority of 002 on time this morning.
The NX and diamond 4H were experiencing delays hence why i didn't post anything about them
Anyone know what was up this evening. Lancaster Circus, James Watt Queensway, Park Street gridlocked for most, if not all of the evening rush hour. Was taking me nearly 20 minutes a trip to get from Aston University to The Priory Queensway. Even longer for the other services using James Watt Queensway.
I was in City at 8.25pm, with 29 minutes to get to Castle Vale and back for the late night driver to take over. Had to be adjusted to run dead to Salford Circus and in from there. At least the bus was back on time then
Quote from: John on April 12, 2017, 09:02:42 PM
Anyone know what was up this evening. Lancaster Circus, James Watt Queensway, Park Street gridlocked for most, if not all of the evening rush hour. Was taking me nearly 20 minutes a trip to get from Aston University to The Priory Queensway. Even longer for the other services using James Watt Queensway.
I was in City at 8.25pm, with 29 minutes to get to Castle Vale and back for the late night driver to take over. Had to be adjusted to run dead to Salford Circus and in from there. At least the bus was back on time then
Two 15 year olds on a moped went through a red light on Belgrave Middleway, by Birmingham Central Mosque and got hit by a car. Police had to close Belgrave Middleway causing the whole city to gridlock
Just saw a 4H leave Halesowen with Blackheath on front at 15:10. Must be very late to be cut that short? Diamond are also running late...
Just seen a 48E to Weoley Castle with a 48 to Northfield right behind it.
Been waiting for the 94 on the Washwood Heath Road at the Foley Road stop towards Chelmsley Wood since 07:15 this morning.
Wheres the 06:25 and 06:55, now 07:10? Both appear to have failed to operate.
You do realise its Saturday service, don't you?
Not familiar with the route, so whether those journeys operate on a Saturday, I dont know.
Wonder if anyone in Cannock has got caught out by lack of x51's this morning?
Quote from: Westy on April 14, 2017, 08:21:20 AM
You do realise its Saturday service, don't you?
Not familiar with the route, so whether those journeys operate on a Saturday, I dont know.
Wonder if anyone in Cannock has got caught out by lack of x51's this morning?
Yes I know that, they operate on Saturday.
There was a RTA at Clock Garage at 5AM this morning, police (undercover) have closed of Coleshill Road and Bradford Road and they are still closed now. Someone has hit a tree apparently and died. 4280 finally turned up over an hour later at 07:27.
94, 70 and 72 are diverted, normal line of route to the Hunters Moon, Coleshill Road, Heath Way, School Lane, Bradford Road, normal line of route to Chelmsley Wood. 70 is being diverted via The Green.
Buses are picking up and dropping of passenger and the stops on the diversion.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/man-suffers-serious-head-injuries-12893962
1640 - 1645 two 48s operating within 2/3 minutes of each other in Harborne towards West Bromwich 1950 followed closely by 813.
Expect delays on 9 due to 3 way traffic in colley gate
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 18, 2017, 11:57:16 AM
Expect delays on 9 due to 3 way traffic in colley gate
And depending where the traffic lights are on Diamond's 002 and 142.
Quote from: fleetline6477 on April 18, 2017, 05:19:47 PM
And depending where the traffic lights are on Diamond's 002 and 142.
There affecting those 2 routes too
1937 running just under 20 mins late on the 120A. Should of operated the 0845 off Blackheath, turned up at 09:03.
Anything up with the 997 today, the 10.42 from Beeches Road into Town was showing on the app as 2 minutes, on time. Then it went up to 8 minutes and now has disappeared altogether so I've now got to wait for the 11.12
Quote from: John on May 01, 2017, 11:02:36 AM
Anything up with the 997 today, the 10.42 from Beeches Road into Town was showing on the app as 2 minutes, on time. Then it went up to 8 minutes and now has disappeared altogether so I've now got to wait for the 11.12
For some reason the bus went back to garage from Pheasey, It was driven back, so wasn't a breakdown
Problems in West Brom? Diamond and nx running very late
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 05, 2017, 03:24:08 PM
Problems in West Brom? Diamond and nx running very late
They'll most likely be late running daily for the next 18months on the 4's & 4H's due to the M5 roadworks @ Oldbury
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 05, 2017, 03:24:08 PM
Problems in West Brom? Diamond and nx running very late
No problems in West Browwich at all. Very rare for problems there since they put the bus lane cameras up
Buses running up to nearly 2 hours late today with the chaos in Aston. Lichfield Road gridlocked, especially heading out of City. Queues earlier were streching all the way up the Tyburn Road to the Bagot according to another 67 driver
I was due to finish at 12.07pm. Finally got off 54 minutes late after queuing on the Tyburn Road. Now most 67s are at least a complete trip behind where they should be. Suttons are also severly delayed and very full with the Cross City line closed too. I imaging most other north Birmingham services are suffering also with traffic using other routes. I'm glad I'm now at home with my feet up!
Quote from: John on May 15, 2017, 03:34:35 PM
Buses running up to nearly 2 hours late today with the chaos in Aston. Lichfield Road gridlocked, especially heading out of City. Queues earlier were streching all the way up the Tyburn Road to the Bagot according to another 67 driver
I was due to finish at 12.07pm. Finally got off 54 minutes late after queuing on the Tyburn Road. Now most 67s are at least a complete trip behind where they should be. Suttons are also severly delayed and very full with the Cross City line closed too. I imaging most other north Birmingham services are suffering also with traffic using other routes. I'm glad I'm now at home with my feet up!
Aparantly, the Lichfield Road is now also closed in both directions, so I bet its fun in the rush hour!
Quote from: John on May 15, 2017, 04:43:27 PM
Aparantly, the Lichfield Road is now also closed in both directions, so I bet its fun in the rush hour!
6799 on the X5, which I'm on at the moment is currently running around three hours late and is currently behind an entire X4 trip. We're currently sat by Amanda Close on Gravelly Hill sat in heavy traffic along with a dozen other buses (X3/4/5's, X14's and a 66).
6799 eventually got into Birmingham 4 hours and 1 minute late. So ended up around 1 hour and 30 minutes late departing Birmingham on it's final X5 to Roughley.
According to Facebook, Arriva 110 has given up & running Tamworth to Erdington only!
Quote from: Westy on May 15, 2017, 05:52:48 PM
According to Facebook, Arriva 110 has given up & running Tamworth to Erdington only!
One way to keep the service running, but what will the people waiting in City do, especially if they do not know about the curtailment?
Quote from: John on May 15, 2017, 06:13:35 PM
One way to keep the service running, but what will the people waiting in City do, especially if they do not know about the curtailment?
Is this right?
According to someone on Facebook, Nx have registered Lichfield Road as an alternative route but Arriva didnt!
Quote from: Westy on May 15, 2017, 06:35:49 PM
Is this right?
According to someone on Facebook, Nx have registered Lichfield Road as an alternative route but Arriva didnt!
If that's true then someone dropped the ball!
Washwood Heath Road services are ridicilous tonight.
Waited from 16:15 till 17:00 in an enormous queue on the Priory Queensway in the City Centre, then took just over 90 minutes to get to Ward End, The Fox and Goose. On 4781 on a 94E to Ward End, The Fox and Goose.
about 20 Washwood Heath buses turned up together (both NX an Claribels) within minutes of each other. The traffic is none moving from the City Centre all the way to Ward End, The Fox and Goose.
Lots of 94Es to Arron Way. 4781 on a 94E to Ward End. A 72E to Chelmsley Wood. Claribels YX17NYY on the 55, unload only from Nechells. The 14s are also affected.
Quote from: Westy on May 15, 2017, 05:52:48 PM
According to Facebook, Arriva 110 has given up & running Tamworth to Erdington only!
Saw a 110 E400 come into the City Centre via Saltley and Nechells earlier.
3 8s together in Saltley at 17:00 as well. With one operating an 8E to Brodesley Green.
SK51AYC was 40 minutes late in Acocks Green on the 11C at 15:30, timetabled to be there at 14:59.
Quote from: Westy on May 15, 2017, 05:52:48 PM
According to Facebook, Arriva 110 has given up & running Tamworth to Erdington only!
Saw a 110 in Nechells and another on Gravelley Hill displaying "Erdington Six Ways" and still with passengers on despite having already passed six ways
Quote from: 2206 on May 15, 2017, 06:46:42 PM
Washwood Heath Road services are ridicilous tonight.
All bus services around Birmingham are screwed. With the closure of the A38M, the ring road is gridlocked, the traffic islands are jammed, and buses using the main trunk roads are struggling to get across the ring road and along the congested main roads.
Problem is, in a situation like this, there are no winners. With an artery like the A38(M) out of action, nothing is going to run smoothly. Nobody is to blame (unless you want to blame the Germans), the bomb disposal team have to take as much time as they need to ensure that Birmingham City doesn't become Birmingham Town tomorrow.
Everybody just needs to make the best of it and try and get home, and hope that tomorrow everything is more or less back to normal.
Quote from: Stu on May 15, 2017, 07:26:20 PM
All bus services around Birmingham are screwed. With the closure of the A38M, the ring road is gridlocked, the traffic islands are jammed, and buses using the main trunk roads are struggling to get across the ring road and along the congested main roads.
Yes, they all are. All the way from the City Centre to Ward End, it was gridlocked and nothing was moving. It took 4781 over 90 minutes to get to Ward End on the 94E.
Doesn't look very hopeful for tomorrow, London Midland are expecting disruption now until tomorrow night and Network West Midlands are saying
"Updated 8pm - Disruption expected to last into tomorrow (Tuesday 16 May) and until further notice. Please plan ahead and allow extra time to travel. "
Quote from: Westy on May 15, 2017, 06:35:49 PM
Is this right?
According to someone on Facebook, Nx have registered Lichfield Road as an alternative route but Arriva didnt!
No it's nonsense. Arriva don't need to have an alternative registered they are entitled to send it any way they like if it's diverted due to a road closure, just as long as they don't pick up or set down anywhere on the diversion. They only need to have it registered if they intend to use it as an alternative route when their registered route is available, similarly to what NX have done with the X12 and X70.
That gives me an idea for another topic.
Absolute carnage again this morning. Tyburn Road was queuing from Kingsbury Road last time I saw it. Should have got to the Vale at 7.50am. Almost 9am when I got there.
They tried to run me dead to relief in 35 minutes, but the A47 was static at Spitfire, so I went up the Chester Road to Court Lane, up past Perry Common terminus, the queue was from the island on the middle of Wotton Lodge Road, so I spun back around and went up Maxtead Road to College Road and up Warren Farm Road. Queued up to the lights on Hawthorn Road and have had to pull over on Kingstanding Road to have my RTA break
Quote from: John on May 16, 2017, 10:02:00 AM
Absolute carnage again this morning. Tyburn Road was queuing from Kingsbury Road last time I saw it. Should have got to the Vale at 7.50am. Almost 9am when I got there.
They tried to run me dead to relief in 35 minutes, but the A47 was static at Spitfire, so I went up the Chester Road to Court Lane, up past Perry Common terminus, the queue was from the island on the middle of Wotton Lodge Road, so I spun back around and went up Maxtead Road to College Road and up Warren Farm Road. Queued up to the lights on Hawthorn Road and have had to pull over on Kingstanding Road to have my RTA break
11s were all late and overcrowded this morning. At 08:00 overcrowded 4303 turned up on the 11C, with also overcrowded KV03ZFS (Strange seeing it still in Ward End at 08:00) and 4679 following behind. There'd been no bus since before about 07:20. Some passengers on the 11 were even giving up and walking. All by Yardley, Yew Tree not letting anyone else on because they were to full.
Lichfield Road from City has now reopened.
The Aston Expressway is expected to reopen shortly. Its expected that it will reopen within the next hour.
Quote from: 2206 on May 16, 2017, 06:19:22 PM
The Aston Expressway is expected to reopen shortly. Its expected that it will reopen within the next hour.
The Aston Expressway has now reopened.
This morning there were long traffic queues and heavy delays to buses around Walsall. Any ideas as to the causes?
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on May 17, 2017, 05:31:53 PM
This morning there were long traffic queues and heavy delays to buses around Walsall. Any ideas as to the causes?
I was lucky then at 7am!
Was hoping for a better day today, but the M6 closure brought motorway traffic into the Tyburn Road and by the Jaguar. Took 30 minutes to get from the Bagot to the Vale on my last trip this morning. Came off 35 minutes late and had to get adjusted on my last trip to relief from the Vale. Got to the Uni relief in just over 15 minutes
Delays and bunching on the 94 and 28s too. I was on a Claribel 94 that had to terminate early at the Fox and Goose and in the opposite direction there were five 94's in the space of 2 minutes, three of them one behind each other.
Quote from: Gareth on May 18, 2017, 12:17:08 PM
Delays and bunching on the 94 and 28s too. I was on a Claribel 94 that had to terminate early at the Fox and Goose and in the opposite direction there were five 94's in the space of 2 minutes, three of them one behind each other.
I passed a 28E Fox & Goose and 2 67Es to The Bagot. We were running in pairs on the 67 most of the morning. I was quite lucky on my second bus as another one took up service in City as I got there so didn't stop, picked up people after Priory Queensway to help him out
All services around merry hill might be running late due to a bad rtc on pedmore road air ambulance landed on eat central car parks happened about 1430
Quote from: karl724223 on May 18, 2017, 03:45:02 PM
All services around merry hill might be running late due to a bad rtc on pedmore road air ambulance landed on eat central car parks happened about 1430
Someone ran out in front of a lorry
PN 9 have been screwed all afternoon. Gaps of 30 mins in service, convoys of 4. X10 run ontime though
4 4H in convoy, 2 diamond 2 nx
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 07, 2017, 04:32:45 PM
PN 9 have been screwed all afternoon. Gaps of 30 mins in service, convoys of 4. X10 run ontime though
better drivers on X10
Was the first Cannock X51 late by chance this morning?
Gets to my bus stop for 650.
A minute later, one comes down & passes me, with the driver gesturing.(Note to drivers, gesturing to passengers at speed is not helpful!) then a minute later, another one turns up!
Quote from: Westy on June 09, 2017, 06:59:06 AM
Was the first Cannock X51 late by chance this morning?
Gets to my bus stop for 650.
A minute later, one comes down & passes me, with the driver gesturing.(Note to drivers, gesturing to passengers at speed is not helpful!) then a minute later, another one turns up!
Every chance, turned up 10 late St Scott Arms with the next one
The 1557 route 244,on which I am currently traveling on,left Dudley fifteen minutes late.
Quote from: markcf83 on June 09, 2017, 04:23:13 PM
The 1557 route 244,on which I am currently traveling on,left Dudley fifteen minutes late.
Oh I'm just waiting for it now!
Quote from: Dom on June 09, 2017, 04:37:55 PM
Oh I'm just waiting for it now!
im saying nothing
Quote from: Dom on June 09, 2017, 04:44:21 PM
Waiting for mr moaner to pipe up!
It's now the 4H which is consistently late. Gave up moaning though. Diamond timetable far better than nx 4H
Number 9 were worst I've seen in a long time today. 4 in convoy arrived in Stourbridge. 6108 left NIS
Streetdeck was on 9E to Portland road
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 13, 2017, 07:34:29 PM
Number 9 were worst I've seen in a long time today. 4 in convoy arrived in Stourbridge. 6108 left NIS
Streetdeck was on 9E to Portland road
Here we go again... Don't you ever get tired of mentioning late buses?
@Trident 4194
Quote from: Jack B on June 13, 2017, 07:45:59 PM
Here we go again... Don't you ever get tired of mentioning late buses? @Trident 4194
Maybe an explanation for this may help rather than your stupid Critisism. It's not like I'm lying!!
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 13, 2017, 08:51:00 PM
It's not like I'm lying!!
Like you've done before you mean?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 13, 2017, 08:51:00 PM
Maybe an explanation for this may help rather than your stupid Critisism. It's not like I'm lying!!
An Explanation? Presumably you've noticed they have been on diversion in Halesowen because of resurfacing work outside the Police Station
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on May 17, 2017, 05:31:53 PM
This morning there were long traffic queues and heavy delays to buses around Walsall. Any ideas as to the causes?
I know this is a but late to respond but on that day a Lorry overturned on the LUNT Island BCR meaning everything using J10, Wolves Road, Black Country Route Both Directions and surprising roads were chock block my 37 was 15 late into Willenhall. That combined with Motorway traffic was A nightmare and yes the lorry overturned at 05:00AM on the Morning
The 9 is gone to pot again it seems. Convoys of three
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 16, 2017, 11:43:21 AM
The 9 is gone to pot again it seems. Convoys of three
The 9s have always been like this. I remember when I used to wait on Colemore Row for the 21/29 and 9s would go by in their numbers. It's always likely to happen with high frequency routes anyway.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 16, 2017, 11:43:21 AM
The 9 is gone to pot again it seems. Convoys of three
As MasterPlan says, this always happens with high frequency routes. I don't post how often this happens on routes like the 11, 37, 6, and others don't post about their local routes because everybody knows it's regular. You seem to post this rubbish every few days. Have a day off, will you?
There's been no problems or bad late running on the 9 today
Quote from: Tony on June 16, 2017, 03:35:42 PM
There's been no problems or bad late running on the 9 today
The 4H on the other hand! Haha. There was convoys of 3 on tracker for the 9. Check departures from Stourbridge now then.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 16, 2017, 11:43:21 AM
The 9 is gone to pot again it seems. Convoys of three
Loads of routes are like this. Even my local 28, which is ever 12 minutes comes late most of the time.
As I said before, don't you get tired of reporting Halesowen's buses running late?@Jack B - Don't you get tired of passing comment...?? If you don't like it, don't read it & don't fill forum with comments like this, Winston
Quote from: Jack B on June 16, 2017, 03:56:56 PM
Loads of routes are like this. Even my local 28, which is ever 12 minutes comes late most of the time.
As I said before, don't you get tired of reporting Halesowen's buses running late?
@Jack B - Don't you get tired of passing comment...?? If you don't like it, don't read it & don't fill forum with comments like this, Winston
@Winston that's an unfair thing to say to Jack. Of course he's going to read it. It's on the unread posts section, which I'm sure everyone clicks on to read what's the latest. We don't expect to be spammed by Trident 4194 on pointless things. I know he's a kid but this is ridiculous.
@MW - you know what I mean, stop trying to cause trouble stirring as per...... People need to learn to ignore posts they don't like / they are equally as guilty of filling up the forum full of junk trying to play Mod. Winston
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 16, 2017, 03:37:29 PM
The 4H on the other hand! Haha. There was convoys of 3 on tracker for the 9. Check departures from Stourbridge now then.
Do you actually see any of the late running you report?
Yesterday you didn't know about a problem right next to where you were complaining about, and today's late running is reporting off an app that doesn't actually tell you that a bus is late
Quote from: Tony on June 16, 2017, 04:22:03 PM
Do you actually see any of the late running you report?
Yesterday you didn't know about a problem right next to where you were complaining about, and today's late running is reporting off an app that doesn't actually tell you that a bus is late
Yes of course I do
3 8C's following each other round Nechells @ 18:18, first two were 8E to Saltley other was too far behind but I guess it was a full route
Quote from: Kevin on June 22, 2017, 06:20:06 PM
3 8C's following each other round Nechells @ 18:18, first two were 8E to Saltley other was too far behind but I guess it was a full route
Yes the 3rd one was an 8C
@Kevin seen them myself while I was waiting at the 55/94 stop outbound
5's running up to ten minutes late since lunchtime. Due to the one Lane being closed on Newton Road between Pages Lane and Scott Arms. Bus Stop is also suspended at the Scott Arms Stop towards Pheasey. Due to Aldi extending their building.
Scania on 4H was in convoy with 1773. Scania went straight back to Walsall from Halesowen as opposed to Hayley green loop
3 4H due within 16 minutes of each other
Surprisingly 2 4H in convoy one going to West Brom one going to walsall
I feel this thread is becoming the 4H is late thread... surprising he isn't stating if the 244 is late
@Chris - If you've got nothing constructive to post, please don't..... Winston
Quote from: Chris on July 06, 2017, 11:23:05 AM
I feel this thread is becoming the 4H is late thread... surprising he isn't stating if the 244 is late
@Chris - If you've got nothing constructive to post, please don't..... Winston
I do apologise for posting a late bus in a late bus thread. How silly of me
@Trident 4194 4H's running late / in convoy will become a regular sight now that the next phase of the M5 Motorway Viaduct Refurbishment Works starts and the M5 is down to 2 lanes in each direction / 30 mph speed limit, Winston
Any idea where the Dudley to Walsall 11 & 13's are?
@Tony If u have your box of tricks on you, a bloke has been waiting at Lea Avenue Wednesbury since 1630, & Ive been here since 1645 roughly.
Plenty of buses to Dudley. Nothing back to Walsall!
17:15 X51 from city has disappeared without trace, was tracking but never arrived.
So obviously everyone had to pile on the Cannock 17:25, so obviously that left late with passengers, some potentially wanting Bloxwich or Cannock, left behind
Hagley road services running late due to the closure of newhall st for five weeks
Potentially a bus missing off the X12 today? 14:42 Chelmsley Wood to city not tracking and not yet showed up, and noticed one not tracking earlier on me way out here about 11:30 from city
Quote from: Kevin on July 08, 2017, 02:47:59 PM
Potentially a bus missing off the X12 today? 14:42 Chelmsley Wood to city not tracking and not yet showed up, and noticed one not tracking earlier on me way out here about 11:30 from city
The 1442 is 6708 still at Solihull Station for some reason. All earlier journies ran and were tracked
9 all screwed. 6108 I believe was the first 9E to Portland road which showed a lack of brains instead deciding to not stop at Stourbridge bus station and go straight out with no passengers
6106 was also on a 9E to Portland Road.
May I ask why nx bother paying that inspector in Stourbridge? He makes things worse??
6116 did a journey starting from the Ivy Bush at about 16.40 & there was another MMC at the stop. Glad I got on a 120a as I was able to change buses at the Ivy Bush
Good luck to those in Coventry who use the 6 and the 10.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/57B1nc
Quote from: karl724223 on July 08, 2017, 12:39:43 AM
Hagley road services running late due to the closure of newhall st for five weeks
take note trident idiot
@karl724223 - Call anyone an idiot again, and you'll be having a nice break from the forum, I won't waste my time typing any 'blue' text next time..... Winston
A couple of 66s were stuck on Elliot Street in Nechells about 17:15 due to an RTC.
Expect absolute chaos on the 67s and Suttons again till 5th September, as the Expressway on ramp from both Gravelly Hill and Tyburn Road are closed over the summer.
I was an hour late this morning and half an hour just, with adjustment 3 times
Quote from: John on July 13, 2017, 02:22:55 PM
Expect absolute chaos on the 67s and Suttons again till 5th September, as the Expressway on ramp from both Gravelly Hill and Tyburn Road are closed over the summer.
I was an hour late this morning and half an hour just, with adjustment 3 times
Did wonder what was up with the 66 this morning so probably the same story there
Shame, because it has finally been made fairly reliable
Quote from: Kevin on July 13, 2017, 06:17:30 PM
Did wonder what was up with the 66 this morning so probably the same story there
Shame, because it has finally been made fairly reliable
To give you a clue an X3 left Six Ways, Erdington on time at 0728. It got to the stop just before the Aston Expressway (The Mount) at 08:44 and arrived at Aston University at 09:20 1hour 30 late.
Well I'd imagine it's safe to say the Suttons will be in chaos today... Meanwhile up my end, Walsall Rd is queueing all the way down to Alexander Stadium
Quote from: Kevin on July 15, 2017, 12:38:35 PM
Well I'd imagine it's safe to say the Suttons will be in chaos today... Meanwhile up my end, Walsall Rd is queueing all the way down to Alexander Stadium
Down to the Tennis Court now. Absolute joke. 28's are running late upto 15 minutes late.
Quote from: Kevin on July 15, 2017, 12:38:35 PM
Well I'd imagine it's safe to say the Suttons will be in chaos today... Meanwhile up my end, Walsall Rd is queueing all the way down to Alexander Stadium
Sutton's are fine. Only a couple that are running late I'm told. Just the X51/997(E)'s and 51's that are getting the brunt of it.
What's going on the Stadium or why is it that bad as I'm thinking about getting an X51 tonight to Brum would I would be better from West Bromwich
Quote from: BusFan94 on July 15, 2017, 06:30:51 PM
What's going on the Stadium or why is it that bad as I'm thinking about getting an X51 tonight to Brum would I would be better from West Bromwich
Aston Expressway having work done. People are being diverted to use J7 instead of J6.
@BusFan94
Oh yes I heard about that I remeber now well I'm now going to get a 79 to West Bromwich and then a 74/82/87/80 or the Tram to Brum as my girlfriend text me saying expressway really bad
Quote from: BusFan94 on July 15, 2017, 06:41:45 PM
Oh yes I heard about that I remeber now well I'm now going to get a 79 to West Bromwich and then a 74/82/87/80 or the Tram to Brum as my girlfriend text me saying expressway really bad
The 82/87 don't serve West Brom. Just the 74, 80/A and 89 serve West Brom to City.
Last night I noted 2134 on 16 at 22.41 leaving city so thought I would wait in city to catch it on its next 23:30 (16a) departure, I got to markets at 23.20 however it did not turn up till 00.02, i assume it was adjusted to ensure that the last city departure ran, as the other board appeared to be missing. One of the passengers remarked "I do like these new buses"
9:45 this morning saw 3 X51s and 3 51s in tandem with all but one going to Birmingham with one of the 51s running as an e to six ways
13.12 255 "59 branded" left 50 mins late with the 14.12 going to be at least 29 mins late
For the next three weeks monument rd ivy bush has been closed
All Hagley road services morning and afternoon peak will be running late dut to the amount of traffic having to go Hagley road to five ways island
So expect a thousand messages from mr Halesowen about the nine running late
One of the late night 51s is* running 15 late tonight
Edit-
*Was - live times had it 15 late then it just turned up about a minute later
X10 running quite late I believe
6718 doing a X10E to five ways ironically displaying 141E on the side display
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 30, 2017, 02:06:03 PM
X10 running quite late I believe
9's were running quite late today too. Must have been a 15-30 minute gap at some points as I was stood in Stourbridge earlier and there were long periods of time when no 9's turned up...Then they'd turn up in groups. I caught 6119 into Birmingham earlier (which was actually on time) and passed a convoy of four 9's (two Streetdeck's and two MMC's).
Everything on Stratford Road was running late today and will do over the next few days. Seen a few E workings terminating at Highgate Road/Sparkbrook. Presumably the same will apply for Alum Rock/Bordesley Green and Small Heath services.
Eid traffic
The whole of the Black Country?
827 and 829 left merry hill NIS
3304 and 6717 in convoy at merry hill lights
6718 I believe NIS passed Quinton church at 15:20
183* and 1845 in convoy on 4H
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 01, 2017, 01:21:28 PM
The whole of the Black Country?
827 and 829 left merry hill NIS
3304 and 6717 in convoy at merry hill lights
6718 I believe NIS passed Quinton church at 15:20
183* and 1845 in convoy on 4H
I'm on ashenhurst rd in dudley and according to the nxwm app, the 205 has been 8 minutes away for half an hour!
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 01, 2017, 01:21:28 PM
The whole of the Black Country?
827 and 829 left merry hill NIS
3304 and 6717 in convoy at merry hill lights
6718 I believe NIS passed Quinton church at 15:20
183* and 1845 in convoy on 4H
I saw two buses on the WA11 on Bloomfield Road, Tipton in convoy earlier today around 2:30 PM too.
Quote from: DJ98 on September 01, 2017, 06:01:48 PM
I saw two buses on the WA11 on Bloomfield Road, Tipton in convoy earlier today around 2:30 PM too.
The WA313 was running about 7 minutes late today.
Quote from: DJ98 on September 01, 2017, 06:01:48 PM
I saw two buses on the WA11 on Bloomfield Road, Tipton in convoy earlier today around 2:30 PM too.
Today was the worst I've seen late runnings on such a number of services
Quote from: Jack on September 01, 2017, 06:50:58 PM
The WA313 was running about 7 minutes late today.
Not as bad as the WA11 then, one of the must have been 20 minutes late if they were together.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 01, 2017, 06:53:26 PM
Today was the worst I've seen late runnings on such a number of services
Makes me glad I got the train to Wolverhampton instead today! ;D
Quote from: DJ98 on September 01, 2017, 07:06:29 PM
Not as bad as the WA11 then, one of the must have been 20 minutes late if they were together.
Makes me glad I got the train to Wolverhampton instead today! ;D
I wonder if the Thandi 311 was in shambles today. Judging by how bad they can be. I did see a Blue Dart NIS heading down Wood Green Road heading towards Walsall. I'm guessing he had to turn round at some point as he must been running very late.
I told Nx via Twitter recently they needed to look at that service, as it regulary has problems.
Their response. Send us an email!
Why do I need to email?
Isnt social media good enough?
Quote from: Westy on September 01, 2017, 09:05:25 PM
I told Nx via Twitter recently they needed to look at that service, as it regulary has problems.
Their response. Send us an email!
Why do I need to email?
Isnt social media good enough?
Way too overcrowded at times too at peak, it's not so bad over the summer, but once school and colleges go back in September, it's always rammed of the mornings. Not to mention the amount of traffic at the junction with the Sedgley Road, it was normal for it to take 30 minutes on the bus to get from Tipton to Dudley back when I was at college. I would like to see deckers on there occasionally, I reckon it'd be worth the trade off of having to drive a different way to the depot to avoid trees or whatever.
Quote from: DJ98 on September 01, 2017, 09:19:29 PM
Way too overcrowded at times too at peak, it's not so bad over the summer, but once school and colleges go back in September, it's always rammed of the mornings. Not to mention the amount of traffic at the junction with the Sedgley Road, it was normal for it to take 30 minutes on the bus to get from Tipton to Dudley back when I was at college. I would like to see deckers on there occasionally, I reckon it'd be worth the trade off of having to drive a different way to the depot to avoid trees or whatever.
Done here it's bad. Two schools right opposite each other on Wood Green Road. I can't wait to see all the drama come back. The Thandi 311 will be terrible again, no wonder they stopped the 313!
Myvod Road can be terrible and the J9 Island. All the fun will start next week!
Quote from: DJ98 on September 01, 2017, 09:19:29 PM
Way too overcrowded at times too at peak, it's not so bad over the summer, but once school and colleges go back in September, it's always rammed of the mornings. Not to mention the amount of traffic at the junction with the Sedgley Road, it was normal for it to take 30 minutes on the bus to get from Tipton to Dudley back when I was at college. I would like to see deckers on there occasionally, I reckon it'd be worth the trade off of having to drive a different way to the depot to avoid trees or whatever.
Blame the trees on Powis Avenue! The branches are that low that they have hitting SD's. Especially the Omnilinks with those pod things on the roof. Sandwell Council think they now it all!
Quote from: Jack on September 01, 2017, 09:24:28 PM
Done here it's bad. Two schools right opposite each other on Wood Green Road. I can't wait to see all the drama come back. The Thandi 311 will be terrible again, no wonder they stopped the 313!
Myvod Road can be terrible and the J9 Island. All the fun will start next week!
Blame the trees on Powis Avenue! The branches are that low that they have hitting SD's. Especially the Omnilinks with those pod things on the roof. Sandwell Council think they now it all!
Ah yeah, I forgot about Powis Avenue. If the 11 and 13 weren't interlinked, then the deckers could just be kept on the 13, but that'd never happen.
That must be awful at rush hour, having two high schools, a motorway junction, and a retail park at the same place...
Quote from: DJ98 on September 01, 2017, 09:36:41 PM
Ah yeah, I forgot about Powis Avenue. If the 11 and 13 weren't interlinked, then the deckers could just be kept on the 13, but that'd never happen.
That must be awful at rush hour, having two high schools, a motorway junction, and a retail park at the same place...
They're expanding the retail park too. This area is terrible. Wednesbury Town Centre doesn't help in rush hour either..
Quote from: Jack on September 01, 2017, 09:39:42 PM
They're expanding the retail park too. This area is terrible. Wednesbury Town Centre doesn't help in rush hour either..
Damn, that sounds like a pain. I would say I'm looking forward to not having to deal with the 11/13 anymore into Dudley, but I doubt the 79 into Wolves will be any better, with the diversion away from Bilston Rd.
Quote from: DJ98 on September 01, 2017, 09:52:42 PM
Damn, that sounds like a pain. I would say I'm looking forward to not having to deal with the 11/13 anymore into Dudley, but I doubt the 79 into Wolves will be any better, with the diversion away from Bilston Rd.
And you've got all the rush hour in Wednesbury town centre. Have fun!
Quote from: Jack on September 01, 2017, 09:59:22 PM
And you've got all the rush hour in Wednesbury town centre. Have fun!
Nah, I'll be catching the 82 from near Coseley to the stop outside Regal Motors, then the 79 into Wolves. Still, I bet there'll be quite a bit of traffic with the Metro diversions.
Shame it takes too long going via Great Bridge & West Brom, if I went from work to Walsall that way!
Also its extra expense Metro from Parkway up to somewhere close to the Bilston to Darlaston route so I could swop to the 39 straight through or get a 79 & change at Darlo.
Coventry Road services X1, X2 and 60 all having difficulties today, due to some temporary traffic lights at the Kings Road junction. Don't know when it happened but looks like there had been a collision of some kind, as the traffic lights have been smashed to pieces.
11C appears to be having difficulties today - while walking down to Acocks Green village earlier, five passed me in convoy (two of which were 11Es). I got the 11A back up the road (about 20 mins later) and we passed another three in convoy!
Quote from: Stu on September 09, 2017, 04:46:53 PM
11C appears to be having difficulties today - while walking down to Acocks Green village earlier, five passed me in convoy (two of which were 11Es). I got the 11A back up the road (about 20 mins later) and we passed another three in convoy!
Open Day at King Edwards School in Kings Heath and bad car parking caused chaos, so much so that they had to be diverted out of Kings Heath for some time.
Ignorant car drivers causing hundreds of other people's to waste time, not just bus passengers but other drivers as well
Quote from: Tony on September 09, 2017, 05:22:45 PM
Open Day at King Edwards School in Kings Heath and bad car parking caused chaos, so much so that they had to be diverted out of Kings Heath for some time.
Ignorant car drivers causing hundreds of other people's to waste time, not just bus passengers but other drivers as well
But, of course, it's the bus companies fault for being late....
Think X51 is running late at the moment as one just turned up & another is ten mins behind!
(Does it still interwork with the 937 on Sundays?)
18:05 X51 from city running 15 late, so 25 mins between departures in rush hour
Think the timetables need looking at because the delays at this time are fairly consistent from my observations
Quote from: Kevin on September 11, 2017, 06:23:54 PM
18:05 X51 from city running 15 late, so 25 mins between departures in rush hour
Think the timetables need looking at because the delays at this time are fairly consistent from my observations
See
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/updates-huge-delays-m6-after-13604571
for explanation of why the X51s are bad this evening
Quote from: Tony on September 11, 2017, 06:35:11 PM
See
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/updates-huge-delays-m6-after-13604571
for explanation of why the X51s are bad this evening
Fair
Does seem to be consistent delays between 18:00 and 18:30 though, resulting in standing loads - while the 997/93x go past with less than half loads
Thought it was a lot busier tonight on the Lichfield Road getting up to Salford Circus, and the M6 North was at a standstill
Quote from: Tony on September 11, 2017, 06:35:11 PM
See
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/updates-huge-delays-m6-after-13604571
for explanation of why the X51s are bad this evening
Wasnt there an issue in Walsall as well this afternoon ?
Three X51s, two 51s, the 886 and a Green Bus (848 I think?) all arrived at Scott Arms at the same time ~07:50 this morning
Chaos
Hilarious
6731 left Brum on the 17:55 X51 10 late
Not drastic I know - but he left leaving loads of people at the bus stop without a full bus.....
Quote from: Kevin on September 13, 2017, 06:05:53 PM
6731 left Brum on the 17:55 X51 10 late
Not drastic I know - but he left leaving loads of people at the bus stop without a full bus.....
It's at drivers discretion about how full he wants a bus.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 13, 2017, 06:10:34 PM
It's at drivers discretion about how full he wants a bus.
How full a driver wants their bus is not at the driver's discretion. All vehicles have a maximum number of passengers displayed, a driver couldn't decide to have standing passengers on the upper deck because there were passengers at the stop.
Quote from: fleetline6477 on September 13, 2017, 10:34:55 PM
How full a driver wants their bus is not at the driver's discretion. All vehicles have a maximum number of passengers displayed, a driver couldn't decide to have standing passengers on the upper deck because there were passengers at the stop.
Yes but it's usually less than the specified number that is max capacity, and the driver will still reject people because people don't use all the available space downstairs to sit
For the record there was no one standing
4 9s were in Halesowen heading for stourbridhe at 10:40 today
Don't know what is going on but Lancaster Circus is gridlock going into City. Suttons at least 30 minutes late as well as 65/7s
Quote from: John on September 16, 2017, 02:20:44 PM
Don't know what is going on but Lancaster Circus is gridlock going into City. Suttons at least 30 minutes late as well as 65/7s
Open day as Aston University
Quote from: John on September 16, 2017, 02:20:44 PM
Don't know what is going on but Lancaster Circus is gridlock going into City. Suttons at least 30 minutes late as well as 65/7s
Same for the Birchfield Buses. 33/51/52/52A leaving within minutes of each other this evening.
Quote from: Jack on September 16, 2017, 05:03:17 PM
Same for the Birchfield Buses. 33/51/52/52A leaving within minutes of each other this evening.
Expressway was at a standstill, even with 4 lanes into City. Took 20 minutes earlier just to get over Dartmouth Circus
I came off 40 odd minutes late for my first portion. Phoned and they said get to outer terminus and have break there. I've had to bring the bus back to garage to use the loo, as I don't finish till 10 tonight
Quote from: John on September 16, 2017, 06:47:27 PM
Expressway was at a standstill, even with 4 lanes into City. Took 20 minutes earlier just to get over Dartmouth Circus
I came off 40 odd minutes late for my first portion. Phoned and they said get to outer terminus and have break there. I've had to bring the bus back to garage to use the loo, as I don't finish till 10 tonight
When on 6722, i saw 4278, 1907/33 all doing 52 with 4283 doing a 52A. 1907 went out of service at One Stop. 4800 on the 33 had to unload at the 54 Stop at One Stop because of buses being all over the place.
Saw 4799 on the 33 being diverted; going into city via Snow Hill Queensway etc...
Aston University moving-in day, as opposed to an Open Day. But yeah, the point still stands.
Quote from: CL on September 16, 2017, 11:38:43 PM
Saw 4799 on the 33 being diverted; going into city via Snow Hill Queensway etc...
Aston University moving-in day, as opposed to an Open Day. But yeah, the point still stands.
It was shocking, the buses were that rammed they had to just carry on pass people at the stops. Haven't seen anything this bad on the Birchfield buses for a while. I doubt the 907 was going good either.
When I was on 6722 at Tower Hill, three 51s came within seconds of each other towards Walsall, 1933/4278/4283 were following each other down Beeches Road.
7025 arrived into city at the same time as 7022 on the 66, 10:10 today
Was assuming / dreading 7025 running dead to Star City to recover as they were so close, but no he stayed in service and I'll be on time to work yippee
9s are running very late. 6113 on a 9E to Portland Road
The two late night 67s are running together tonight. Combination of Expressway closure, Villa traffic and roadworks
Pensnett 140 that was doing a mystery tour of five ways
@pndriver
Quote from: karl724223 on September 24, 2017, 07:27:14 PM
Pensnett 140 that was doing a mystery tour of five ways @pndriver
Haha it sounded like fun driving today
Quote from: karl724223 on September 24, 2017, 07:27:14 PM
Pensnett 140 that was doing a mystery tour of five ways @pndriver
And the rest of Birmingham ;D
In other news...... 4437 was the first competitor to cross the finish line
Quote from: pndriver on September 24, 2017, 07:40:44 PM
And the rest of Birmingham ;D
In other news...... 4437 was the first competitor to cross the finish line
How long did it take tho?
Anyone know what the problem was that was causing issues on the left side of the city this morning? Harborne services were absolutely shafted.
Quote from: Mike K on September 26, 2017, 10:47:49 AM
Anyone know what the problem was that was causing issues on the left side of the city this morning? Harborne services were absolutely shafted.
Road works on Broad Street
Quote from: Tony on September 26, 2017, 10:58:46 AM
Road works on Broad Street
Thanks for the info. Took 45 mins just to get from Northfield Rd Harborne to Harborne Academy this morning.
Quote from: Tony on September 26, 2017, 10:58:46 AM
Road works on Broad Street
they caused problems for Hagley road services yesterday as well
Total balls up
Quote from: karl724223 on September 26, 2017, 01:56:42 PM
they caused problems for Hagley road services yesterday as well
Total balls up
And today judging by the amount of 9s in convoys
1893 and 1894 on 4H in convoy
Does the 82 normally get delayed by over 20 minutes before it gets into Bilston on the way to Dudley? None of them were tracking either this evening.
This morning it took 1 hour 17 minutes to get from Northfield Rd Harborne to Livery Street on 5504. Roadworks on the one way part of Harborne Road and all down Broad Street. Absolutely farcical, I could have walked quicker. Not surprisingly, the bus left town Not in Service, meanwhile 5511 was heading out of city in a 23E to Five Ways.
Seen 5 24s leave town earlier within 3 mins along Smallbrook Queensway. Even for the 24 that's pretty bad.
Quote from: MasterPlan on September 28, 2017, 06:44:51 PM
Seen 5 24s leave town earlier within 3 mins along Smallbrook Queensway. Even for the 24 that's pretty bad.
What time was that?
Quote from: Tony on September 28, 2017, 06:49:33 PM
What time was that?
Erm about quarter past 5 I think.
Quote from: MasterPlan on September 28, 2017, 07:29:42 PM
Erm about quarter past 5 I think.
The tracking system has vehicles there at
17:00 - 4949
17:08 - 4934
17:10 - 4935
17:30 - 2134
17:31 - 4879
Yes, not very good, but I cannot see 5 in 3 minutes
Quote from: Tony on September 28, 2017, 07:35:46 PM
The tracking system has vehicles there at
17:00 - 4949
17:08 - 4934
17:10 - 4935
17:30 - 2134
17:31 - 4879
Yes, not very good, but I cannot see 5 in 3 minutes
Well 2 24s went past when I was waiting for the X64 and when i was on it waiting to leave Smallbrook Queensway 3 more went past right after each other along with a 29 and 22
None of them were a B7RLE
Quote from: MasterPlan on September 28, 2017, 07:38:59 PM
Well 2 24s went past when I was waiting for the X64 and when i was on it waiting to leave Smallbrook Queensway 3 more went past right after each other along with a 29 and 22
None of them were a B7RLE
You are clearly mistaken I am afraid. There are 12 buses on the 24 in the afternoon. They left Smallbrook Queensway at
15:59 - 5505
16:02 - 2138
16:08 - 4940
16:32 - 4878
16:32 - 2148
16:35 - 4943
16:58 - 4938
17:00 - 4949
17:08 - 4934
17:10 - 4935
17:30 - 2134
17:31 - 4879
I know what I saw with my own eyes lol. But fair enough, I won't argue the toss.
Quote from: Tony on September 28, 2017, 07:50:16 PM
You are clearly mistaken I am afraid. There are 12 buses on the 24 in the afternoon. They left Smallbrook Queensway at
15:59 - 5505
16:02 - 2138
16:08 - 4940
16:32 - 4878
16:32 - 2148
16:35 - 4943
16:58 - 4938
17:00 - 4949
17:08 - 4934
17:10 - 4935
17:30 - 2134
17:31 - 4879
I presume you went home on 2124 which was at Smallbrook Queensway at 17:10, so would have seen 4938/49 while waiting, and 4934/35 gone past with a mistaken service number on a third bus. Four buses in 12 minutes
I did go home on 2124. Honestly I'm not lying, 3 e400s went past me while I was waiting with 24 on it. A 29, a.22, an 80 and and 80A.
20:10 65 from Brum failed to show
Two 67s turned up at 20:20
Quote from: Kevin on September 30, 2017, 08:21:27 PM
20:10 65 from Brum failed to show
Two 67s turned up at 20:20
I was outside AG briefly today awaiting my 31 to Solihull and I clocked at least 6 11As in the space of 5 minutes. At least 3 of them were running as 11E Acocks Green. The clockwise variant of the route seemed to be running well.
4H running very late- issues anywhere on route?
189*- crimson one on 4H only went to oldbury this morning running 20 late. Also went the diamond 4H way from Halesowen to blackheath for unknown reasons
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 09, 2017, 02:53:51 PM
189*- crimson one on 4H only went to oldbury this morning running 20 late. Also went the diamond 4H way from Halesowen to blackheath for unknown reasons
1892
Oak Tree Lane junction in Selly oak was screwed this evening. Temporary traffic lights on the junction, plus diverted traffic from the pershore road accident, meant chaos all round. Took me 45 minutes to go a mile as the temporary lights were stuck on red. Absolute p*sstake by the workers there who did nothing to help traffic flow when they could see that the lights were messed up. A NXWM Volvo single decker also appeared to have broken down in the bus lane at the traffic lights.
140E and 2 9E have been seen this afternoon.
3 4H arrived in Halesowen from walsall between 15:35 and 15:45
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 13, 2017, 04:01:34 PM
140E and 2 9E have been seen this afternoon.
3 4H arrived in Halesowen from walsall between 15:35 and 15:45
how come you never post the fleet numbers
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 13, 2017, 04:01:34 PM
140E and 2 9E have been seen this afternoon.
3 4H arrived in Halesowen from walsall between 15:35 and 15:45
A car breaking down on the M5 screwed up Birchley Crossing in Oldbury for a time so
1767 got to Halesowen at 15:38 42 minutes late
1838 got to Halesowen at 15:34 27 minutes late
1768 got to Halesowen at 15:47 5 minutes late
Quote from: Tony on October 13, 2017, 08:24:21 PM
A car breaking down on the M5 screwed up Birchley Crossing in Oldbury for a time so
1767 got to Halesowen at 15:38 42 minutes late
1838 got to Halesowen at 15:34 27 minutes late
1768 got to Halesowen at 15:47 5 minutes late
Strange how 1767 continued to Hayley green despite being later than 1838 which terminates at Halesowen.
@karl724223 it was 2 streetdecks I believe in 9Es
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 13, 2017, 08:31:14 PM
Strange how 1767 continued to Hayley green despite being later than 1838 which terminates at Halesowen.
Oh so you reckon you could regulate a service then?
You see turning 1838 put that bus exactly on time for the return journey. Turning 1767 would have still left both of them late, so only left one bus needing adjustment later on!
Quote from: Tony on October 13, 2017, 08:55:34 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 13, 2017, 08:31:14 PM
Strange how 1767 continued to Hayley green despite being later than 1838 which terminates at Halesowen.
Oh so you reckon you could regulate a service then?
You see turning 1838 put that bus exactly on time for the return journey. Turning 1767 would have still left both of them late, so only left one bus needing adjustment later on!
Ah I see fair enough I presume 1767 became a 4H short working from Hayley green
Today the X10 has had a real bollocking with road works
1 two way traffic lights high oak
2 quarry bank was a road closure then two way traffic lights due to damaged building from high winds
3 two way traffic lights just past cradley train station road works
4 four way traffic lights bottom of Coombs wood ongoing road works
5 broad st diversion
6 two way traffic lights on this diversion
A34 traffic currently averaging 2mph
Yay for the M6
Fair few 51/52/X51/886 running half hour late now
The whole of Broad Street seems to be almost gridlocked inbound. I lost count of how many buses were on it but lots of services bunched together.
3 29s in convoy going through Weoley Castle (2 29Es)
Saw an X10 leave merry hill for Portland road 19:40
Broad st and the diversion was one big car park tonight
Wonder how long it will be before the hotel starts complaining
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 18, 2017, 10:11:11 PM
Saw an X10 leave merry hill for Portland road 19:40
that was the 1900 from merry hill the 1930 got to merry hill the time it was due in Halesowen to go back to garage
2 X4s, an X3 and X5 arrived in Sutton just now all together outbound
2 WN 82s down Old Heath Road together, Wolverhampton bound.
Edit: 3 WN 79s just passed The Cleveland Arms towards Wolves together too.
Broad Street services seem to be even worse this evening. How long will these roadworks go on for?
Quote from: MasterPlan on October 19, 2017, 06:00:43 PM
Broad Street services seem to be even worse this evening. How long will these roadworks go on for?
It's not the Roadworks tonight. That is not where the problems are. It is the heavy traffic going into the car parks for the Disney on ice show at the ICC
Quote from: Tony on October 19, 2017, 06:06:03 PM
It's not the Roadworks tonight. That is not where the problems are. It is the heavy traffic going into the car parks for the Disney on ice show at the ICC
Ah I see! Who knew Disney could cause so much trouble.
Do you know how long the roadworks will last though?
Quote from: MasterPlan on October 19, 2017, 06:45:18 PM
Ah I see! Who knew Disney could cause so much trouble.
Do you know how long the roadworks will last though?
A year
Was 30 minutes late just coming off due to the RTC and affected traffic.
Told to turn around at The Bagot on the next trip. The next 2 67s were right behind as I came off at the Uni. The one behind me was turned around at Lancaster Circus
@Tony Is there an issue with the Walsall 89 this evening?
My sister left work in Wednesfield around 5pm for bus to Bloxwich.
She rang us at 1754, saying she'd only just got a bus!
Got to the bus stop in Roseville today at just after 5PM and didn't have an 82 turn up until just before 6. Was there any issues that caused that?
Got stuck behind an Omnilink in the 48A, a price branded Enviro 400 on the 48 and 4251 on the 48A all bunched together on Holly Lane about 5 mins ago
3301 and 671* in convoy on x10 left halesowen at 15:45
4 9s in convoy, 2 streetdecks, 2mmcs at halesowen leaving for Stourbridge at 10:20. Must be bad
In brum.
The 9:36 4H I presumed must have missed out the loop. Causing lots of angry people- especially being the first after 9:30. Seems a common occurrence to miss Hayley green out.
Harborne services also screwed
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 07, 2017, 04:16:29 PM
3301 and 671* in convoy on x10 left halesowen at 15:45
4 9s in convoy, 2 streetdecks, 2mmcs at halesowen leaving for Stourbridge at 10:20. Must be bad
In brum.
The 9:36 4H I presumed must have missed out the loop. Causing lots of angry people- especially being the first after 9:30. Seems a common occurrence to miss Hayley green out.
Harborne services also screwed
Why dont they put Hayley Green on another route to save messing up the 4H timetable?
Quote from: Westy on November 07, 2017, 06:29:06 PM
Why dont they put Hayley Green on another route to save messing up the 4H timetable?
You take too much notice of a certain person's postings. For example today every 4H completed the loop and every one left Halesowen on its way back to Walsall on time with the exception of the 13:02 which was 12 minutes late.
Quote from: Tony on November 07, 2017, 06:37:23 PM
You take too much notice of a certain person's postings. For example today every 4H completed the loop and every one left Halesowen on its way back to Walsall on time with the exception of the 13:02 which was 12 minutes late.
Yesterday I sampled 1841 on the 4M from merry hill to West Brom, and I was amazed at how long this dam journey is allowed. Waited at rowley Regis hospital for 3 mins, blackheath for 3 mins then another wait at oldbury and it wasn't even been driven fast.
When your allowing 25 mins for the Hayley green loop I expect them to be practically on time leaving halesowen. Considering you can do it in just over 15 mins
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 07, 2017, 07:48:03 PM
Yesterday I sampled 1841 on the 4M from merry hill to West Brom, and I was amazed at how long this dam journey is allowed. Waited at rowley Regis hospital for 3 mins, blackheath for 3 mins then another wait at oldbury and it wasn't even been driven fast.
Thank you for pointing that out, now perhaps when you are shouting about NX running late you realise there must be problems on the route, yet amazingly you reckon all the Diamond buses are on time. Your posting defy logic.
Quote from: Tony on November 07, 2017, 08:09:04 PM
Thank you for pointing that out, now perhaps when you are shouting about NX running late you realise there must be problems on the route, yet amazingly you reckon all the Diamond buses are on time. Your posting defy logic.
Give me the location where there is issues on route. And don't say birchley island because other than peaks it's absolutely fine
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 07, 2017, 07:48:03 PM
Yesterday I sampled 1841 on the 4M from merry hill to West Brom, and I was amazed at how long this dam journey is allowed. Waited at rowley Regis hospital for 3 mins, blackheath for 3 mins then another wait at oldbury and it wasn't even been driven fast.
If it was being driven fast, surely it would have ended up waiting even longer at those timing points?
Timetables are there for a reason, I suppose you'd prefer timetables with shorter journey times so the buses are constantly running late?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 07, 2017, 08:27:41 PM
Give me the location where there is issues on route. And don't say birchley island because other than peaks it's absolutely fine
Regular problems aren't what causes problems, you can timetable them.
How long does it take a bus to get through Caldmore in Walsall - different every day.
How long is the queue to get into the new shopping centre at West Bromwich?
How long is it going to take to get out of West Bromwich Bus Station?
How long is it going to take to get across Birchley roundabout?
How long is it going to take through White heath?
That is why a sensible scheduler on a long route allows a extra couple of minutes at various points along the route
Quote from: Tony on November 07, 2017, 08:38:29 PM
Regular problems aren't what causes problems, you can timetable them.
How long does it take a bus to get through Caldmore in Walsall - different every day.
How long is the queue to get into the new shopping centre at West Bromwich?
How long is it going to take to get out of West Bromwich Bus Station?
How long is it going to take to get across Birchley roundabout?
How long is it going to take through White heath?
That is why a sensible scheduler on a long route allows a extra couple of minutes at various points along the route
Precisely why in my opinion they should do the 4H,4M only to West Brom. Then the normal 4 from West Brom- walsall. How many people actually travel all the way from Halesowen and merry hill- walsall?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 07, 2017, 09:09:14 PM
Precisely why in my opinion they should do the 4H,4M only to West Brom. Then the normal 4 from West Brom- walsall. How many people actually travel all the way from Halesowen and merry hill- walsall?
A lot of people travel from North of West Bromwich to Blackheath though, try getting on a 4 at West Bromwich Bus Station towards Walsall and most are a third to half full
Quote from: Tony on November 07, 2017, 09:12:25 PM
A lot of people travel from North of West Bromwich to Blackheath though, try getting on a 4 at West Bromwich Bus Station towards Walsall and most are a third to half full
That is true. There doesn't seem to be anything that can be done to improve reliability then.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 07, 2017, 09:19:37 PM
That is true. There doesn't seem to be anything that can be done to improve reliability then.
You've got Diamond.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 07, 2017, 09:19:37 PM
That is true. There doesn't seem to be anything that can be done to improve reliability then.
personnally I think you write nothing but a load of crap And you don't know what your on about
Nearly every 4M that comes into merry hill has a park up break and you see the driver get of and go to the bog or have a fag
Quote from: Jack on November 07, 2017, 09:21:07 PM
You've got Diamond.
Exactly, if you want NE to just run to West Brom with a seperate service West Brom - Walsall, then Diamond should have to do the same to. Otherwise it would be unfair.
Am sure Diamond buses run late on these routes to, when they are being operated correctly.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 07, 2017, 09:26:58 PM
Exactly, if you want NE to just run to West Brom with a seperate service West Brom - Walsall, then Diamond should have to do the same to. Otherwise it would be unfair.
Am sure Diamond buses run late on these routes to, when they are being operated correctly.
He'll moan about problems on the 45, which the route is fine. He's got Diamond on the 4H, which supplies him with free wifi and a somewhat reliable service, as if NX don't do the same. Or is it just Birchley Island which is terrible atm.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 07, 2017, 09:19:37 PM
That is true. There doesn't seem to be anything that can be done to improve reliability then.
Allow more time to complete your journey if it's as unreliable as you say, then you won't have a problem.
Quote from: karl724223 on November 07, 2017, 09:26:06 PM
personnally I think you write nothing but a load of crap And you don't know what your on about
Nearly every 4M that comes into merry hill has a park up break and you see the driver get of and go to the bog or have a fag
I don't know if you know your alphabet but M is different to H. M seems to be punctual somehow.H doesn't.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 07, 2017, 09:39:03 PM
I don't know if you know your alphabet but M is different to H. M seems to be punctual somehow.H doesn't.
The 4/4H/4M are all fine. The bad one out of the 3 of them is the 4M, withe Xmas approaching it will be chaos in the bus station, with all the parked cars everywhere. I wonder if Deckers will be put on the 4M on Boxing Day like 2013?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 07, 2017, 09:39:03 PM
I don't know if you know your alphabet but M is different to H. M seems to be punctual somehow.H doesn't.
@Trident 4194 and is it just NE 4Hs that are delayed?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 07, 2017, 09:39:03 PM
I don't know if you know your alphabet but M is different to H. M seems to be punctual somehow.H doesn't.
again when I'm over Halesowen on x10 I never see the problems you see day in day out 24hrs a day
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 07, 2017, 09:43:38 PM
@Trident 4194
and is it just NE 4Hs that are delayed?
I know you won't believe me when I say this but I would say 95% of time diamond are ontime. I think due to their lower passenger numbers they are able to make up time, as well as driving at maximum speed limits
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 07, 2017, 09:55:22 PM
I know you won't believe me when I say this but I would say 95% of time diamond are ontime. I think due to their lower passenger numbers they are able to make up time, as well as driving at maximum speed limits
Sorry but I can't believe you, I bet that if you checked both NE and Diamonds real time data, then you would probably find that the punctuality % would be very similar for both companies.
Can't believe that Diamonds passenger figures are that low or they would withdraw the services.
With respect
@Tony, we'll agree to differ whether I take too much notice of certain posters, but Nx ran long routes before & they eventually got split, for example the Walsall - Dudley - Stourbridge corridor, which I seem to recall was introduced due to the closures of Dudley & Harts Hill garages, with Walsall running the entire route.
It got split for reliability reasons ISTR.
By the way, correct me if I'm wrong, but the original reason for the 951 as was being cut back to West Midlands only was due to reliability reasons caused by construction of the BNRR.
Nothing was mentioned about NX / Twm pulling out as Staffordshire routes didnt pay!
(But no one said the 951 would be restored when the BNRR was finished!)
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 07, 2017, 10:03:21 PM
Sorry but I can't believe you, I bet that if you checked both NE and Diamonds real time data, then you would probably find that the punctuality % would be very similar for both companies.
Can't believe that Diamonds passenger figures are that low or they would withdraw the services.
When diamond get real time data then I will be able to prove this. But yes I understand why you don't believe me
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 07, 2017, 09:55:22 PM
I know you won't believe me when I say this but I would say 95% of time diamond are ontime. I think due to their lower passenger numbers they are able to make up time, as well as driving at maximum speed limits
You still haven't said how you know. When NX are late how do you know the Diamond buses aren't running close to the time of the one behind? You were moaning earlier about NX's excess running times so if Diamond's times are tighter how on earth do you think they avoid problems?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 07, 2017, 10:03:21 PM
Sorry but I can't believe you, I bet that if you checked both NE and Diamonds real time data, then you would probably find that the punctuality % would be very similar for both companies.
Can't believe that Diamonds passenger figures are that low or they would withdraw the services.
Lower passenger numbers means they have to stop at stops less and spend time loading an unloading, so they would be a bit quicker in my opinion.
You notice a bit off a difference when on the 94 between NX and Claribels.
The smaller operators do tend to carry lighter loads than NX and pick up the passengers left over who don't have NX passes or who haven't already purchased a daysaver.
Quote from: 2206 on November 07, 2017, 10:10:46 PM
Lower passenger numbers means they have to stop at stops less and spend time loading an unloading, so they would be a bit quicker in my opinion.
You notice a bit off a difference when on the 94 between NX and Claribels.
The smaller operators tend to carry lighter loads than NX and pick up the passengers left over who don't have NX passes or who haven't already purchased a daysaver.
But thats what I mean
@2206 , you would have thought that being a "shared" route that NE and Diamond would get a roughly 50% share of the available market. The question is why don't Diamond get more passengers, is it just that passengers prefer NE or is it that they don't prefer Diamonds older buses driven as Trident said at high speeds. Certainly I have been on both NE and Diamond on the 4 and I do prefer NE.
Quote from: Tony on November 07, 2017, 10:05:59 PM
You still haven't said how you know. When NX are late how do you know the Diamond buses aren't running close to the time of the one behind? You were moaning earlier about NX's excess running times so if Diamond's times are tighter how on earth do you think they avoid problems?
I don't i base my assumption on the fact that it is ontime and not the one before. Diamond have longer between Halesowen and walsall compared with nx. Let's be honest the Hayley green loop doesn't have any traffic issues other than the odd road resurfacing which only affects diamonds anyway
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 07, 2017, 10:19:50 PM
But thats what I mean @2206 , you would have thought that being a "shared" route that NE and Diamond would get a roughly 50% share of the available market. The question is why don't Diamond get more passengers, is it just that passengers prefer NE or is it that they don't prefer Diamonds older buses driven as Trident said at high speeds. Certainly I have been on both NE and Diamond on the 4 and I do prefer NE.
People associate diamond with speed. The quality of diamond buses are generally better than nx, with partial leather seats and free wifi. I believe the issue is the solely nx travel cards have such high dominance in the market. People who live between blackheath and walsall are going to get just a nx card if they know there will be a bus in 6 mins. Same can be said for the 16 I suppose
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 07, 2017, 10:21:45 PM
Diamond have longer between Halesowen and walsall compared with nx.
Do you just guess everything?
The NX 4H that leaves Halesowen at 10:02 gets 65 minutes to get to Walsall
The Dia 4H that leaves Halesowen at 10:07 gets 66 minutes to get to Walsall
similar timings apply on most other departures
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 07, 2017, 10:27:05 PM
People associate diamond with speed. The quality of diamond buses are generally better than nx, with partial leather seats and free wifi. I believe the issue is the solely nx travel cards have such high dominance in the market. People who live between blackheath and walsall are going to get just a nx card if they know there will be a bus in 6 mins. Same can be said for the 16 I suppose
Funniest comment of the week award! Have you not seen the clapped out 15 year old Darts a certain company runs? You clearly haven't visited Worcestershire recently as I can tell you for certain your statement is wrong concerning quality of their buses, even the newer vehicles don't look well half the time!
Quote from: j789 on November 07, 2017, 10:37:22 PM
Funniest comment of the week award! Have you not seen the clapped out 15 year old Darts a certain company runs? You clearly haven't visited Worcestershire recently as I can tell you for certain your statement is wrong concerning quality of their buses, even the newer vehicles don't look well half the time!
He says it gets leather seated B7RLE's with free wifi, when most of the time it gets Tivi's E300's which are like a rainbow inside! 30488-30492.
Quote from: Tony on November 07, 2017, 10:30:52 PM
Do you just guess everything?
The NX 4H that leaves Halesowen at 10:02 gets 65 minutes to get to Walsall
The Dia 4H that leaves Halesowen at 10:07 gets 66 minutes to get to Walsall
similar timings apply on most other departures
Exactly
@Tony and in the other direction Diamond get an extra minute to.
So to say that Diamond are always on time is absolutely ridiculous, because any traffic problems that NE encounters, then Diamond will surely encounter them afterwards.
And IMO passengers don't want "speed", they want a reliable safe journey.
Quote from: j789 on November 07, 2017, 10:37:22 PM
Funniest comment of the week award! Have you not seen the clapped out 15 year old Darts a certain company runs? You clearly haven't visited Worcestershire recently as I can tell you for certain your statement is wrong concerning quality of their buses, even the newer vehicles don't look well half the time!
He sees them as he has just posted that one of the black ones was on the 4H today!
Quote from: StuharrisAnd IMO passengers don't want "speed", they want a reliable safe journey.
I agree with this. Some journeys may take a bit longer but as long as it gets you where need to go and safely that's all that matters really.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 07, 2017, 09:39:03 PM
I don't know if you know your alphabet but M is different to H. M seems to be punctual somehow.H doesn't.
It's the alphabet's fault
Lmfao
Quote from: Jack on November 07, 2017, 10:44:21 PM
He says it gets leather seated B7RLE's with free wifi, when most of the time it gets Tivi's E300's which are like a rainbow inside! 30488-30492.
The normal 4 gets the crap buses for some unknown reason. Saw 3088* dart and 04 plate b7rle the other day. 4H is solid 13 plate and 07 plate majority of the time
Diamond. Quality. Matter of opinion.
Diamond still have Hanson's buses with Hanson's logos... how can you base your opinion of diamonds running on time at 95% when for a fact the 226 is always late, the 257 on a Sunday is always 5 mins late. At the end of the day
@Trident 4194, I have never seen so much BS on the late running services thread from you, even when
@Tony provides FACTUAL INFORMATION, You STILL say he is wrong. In your regards to buses being late after 9ish from Halesowen to Stourbridge, I would class 9am to 10am as "rush hour buses" that are recovering from being stuck in traffic on their inbound run to Birmingham therefor it will have a knock effect on the return journey.
Do you think buses fly??? Well you think Diamonds do...
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 08, 2017, 08:27:12 AM
The normal 4 gets the crap buses for some unknown reason. Saw 3088* dart and 04 plate b7rle the other day. 4H is solid 13 plate and 07 plate majority of the time
The 4H has E300's on it a lot. Plaxton B7RLE are not unusual either.
Quote from: Chris on November 08, 2017, 01:57:52 PM
Diamond still have Hanson's buses with Hanson's logos... how can you base your opinion of diamonds running on time at 95% when for a fact the 226 is always late, the 257 on a Sunday is always 5 mins late. At the end of the day @Trident 4194, I have never seen so much BS on the late running services thread from you, even when @Tony provides FACTUAL INFORMATION, You STILL say he is wrong. In your regards to buses being late after 9ish from Halesowen to Stourbridge, I would class 9am to 10am as "rush hour buses" that are recovering from being stuck in traffic on their inbound run to Birmingham therefor it will have a knock effect on the return journey.
Do you think buses fly??? Well you think Diamonds do...
Might as well delete this entire thread then, if you get criticised for posting what you see. 4/20 running 20 down today which is unusual for that journey. Traffic must be very bad
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 08, 2017, 05:11:42 PM
Might as well delete this entire thread then, if you get criticised for posting what you see. 4/20 running 20 down today which is unusual for that journey. Traffic must be very bad
The whole point of this thread is about services running extremely late. Not when the 4H is running 4 minutes late.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 08, 2017, 05:11:42 PM
Might as well delete this entire thread then, if you get criticised for posting what you see. 4/20 running 20 down today which is unusual for that journey. Traffic must be very bad
Or you just stop posting about the lateness on the 4H and 9 all the time? I would not have to read your crap then! Have you got anything else better to do?
51/52/A all running up to 10 minutes late because of the diverted traffic and the Harrier Way traffic lights only letting 5 cars go at a time.
A34 traffic mental this evening thanks to temporary lights on Walsall Road / Rocky Lane junction, at least half an between buses at one point
Quote from: Kevin on November 16, 2017, 07:43:18 PM
A34 traffic mental this evening thanks to temporary lights on Walsall Road / Rocky Lane junction, at least half an between buses at one point
28's were running in twos at the time the schools came out, evening Peak. The traffic must of been quite bad for this to happen.
Had to wait nearly an hour for an 11/13 to turn up towards Dudley at the stop just past the M6 junction, in the end, two ended up arriving pretty much at the same time. Wouldn't mind that much, but it was freezing. :(
Quote from: DJ98 on November 16, 2017, 09:31:45 PM
Had to wait nearly an hour for an 11/13 to turn up towards Dudley at the stop just past the M6 junction, in the end, two ended up arriving pretty much at the same time. Wouldn't mind that much, but it was freezing. :(
Wood Green Road, Wood Green School Stop? Shame Thandi don't run after 17:30.
Quote from: Jack on November 16, 2017, 09:39:01 PM
Wood Green Road, Wood Green School Stop? Shame Thandi don't run after 17:30.
Yeah, that's the one. Had countless 11 and 13s go past the other way but had to watch a few not in service B7RLEs and Scanias go past for the best part of an hour. Thandi wouldn't have been any good though since my pass only covers me for NXWM services, and I don't carry any change on me.
Quote from: DJ98 on November 16, 2017, 10:12:49 PM
Yeah, that's the one. Had countless 11 and 13s go past the other way but had to watch a few not in service B7RLEs and Scanias go past for the best part of an hour. Thandi wouldn't have been any good though since my pass only covers me for NXWM services, and I don't carry any change on me.
I was going to say that you must of felt annoyed seeing other buses going in the other direction and nothing in yours. I always use to carry change when I use to use to the 40, if NX came late I could get the Diamond 40.
So many NIS buses running on the route of the 9 today
6 9s within 5 mins of the 1st to the last is ridiculous at 8pm this evening
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 24, 2017, 06:16:12 PM
So many NIS buses running on the route of the 9 today
6 9s within 5 mins of the 1st to the last is ridiculous at 8pm this evening
get your arse up brum and direct traffic then if you think you can do better
Something more than normal was up with the X51s yesterday evening, thought the two that came together in town ~18:05 was the normal two but later I spotted the Bloxwich run after I got off and that's meant to leave city 17:45 so about half hour late
Appears to be issues on the Perry Barr corridor again.
At least one X51 is running roughly 25 mins late(the Bull St departure around 1430!), so I had to catch a 51 back to Walsall instead.
2 907's together as well, along with a 33E to Kingstanding, plus the X4 (?) was operating a short journey to Sutton as well.
Quote from: Westy on November 26, 2017, 02:55:23 PM
Appears to be issues on the Perry Barr corridor again.
At least one X51 is running roughly 25 mins late(the Bull St departure around 1430!), so I had to catch a 51 back to Walsall instead.
2 907's together as well, along with a 33E to Kingstanding, plus the X4 (?) was operating a short journey to Sutton as well.
As every other X4 does on Sunday. It's timetabled.
And it's not a Perry Barr/Birchfield Road service either.
Quote from: 2206 on November 26, 2017, 03:03:47 PM
And it's not a Perry Barr/Birchfield Road service either.
The 33/51/52/A are the Birchfield Road Services, but the 907 is linked in to them as a Perry Barr Service. The Platnium services are nothing to do with Birchfield Road.
The 28E's are in chaos as well. Waited 40 Minutes on Dyas Road and suprise surprise two came together.
Quote from: Westy on November 26, 2017, 02:55:23 PM
Appears to be issues on the Perry Barr corridor again.
At least one X51 is running roughly 25 mins late(the Bull St departure around 1430!), so I had to catch a 51 back to Walsall instead.
2 907's together as well, along with a 33E to Kingstanding, plus the X4 (?) was operating a short journey to Sutton as well.
Late running buses often happen on Sundays over the Christmas shopping period. Many buses that use Masshouse get caught in traffic as queues for the car parks build up
Quote from: 2206 on November 26, 2017, 03:03:47 PM
As every other X4 does on Sunday. It's timetabled.
And it's not a Perry Barr/Birchfield Road service either.
I know X4 isnt a Perry Barr service!
Quote from: Jack on November 26, 2017, 03:18:16 PM
The 28E's are in chaos as well. Waited 40 Minutes on Dyas Road and suprise surprise two came together.
Strange
Every 28 going towards Small Heath is showing as on time, and the latest any all day arriving at Dyas Road is 9 minutes and there is no 40 minute gaps, so what time was this?
Quote from: Tony on November 26, 2017, 05:45:11 PM
Strange
Every 28 going towards Small Heath is showing as on time, and the latest any all day arriving at Dyas Road is 9 minutes and there is no 40 minute gaps, so what time was this?
Some point around 13:30 and 14:00.
Quote from: Jack on November 26, 2017, 06:02:41 PM
Some point around 13:30 and 14:00.
so 7021 didn't arrive at the Dyas Road terminus at 13:33 and leave on time at 13:45
then 7025 arrived there at 14:12 and left spot on time at 14:15
Quote from: Westy on November 26, 2017, 05:00:44 PM
I know X4 isnt a Perry Barr service!
X4 a Perry Barr route along with the X3 & X5 ex 902/4/5 but they go through Erdington via the Expressway instead. Unless you were on about the fact it does not go through Parry Barr
@Westy
Quote from: Squiz1971 on November 26, 2017, 07:30:34 PM
X4 a Perry Barr route along with the X3 & X5 ex 902/4/5 but they go through Erdington via the Expressway instead. Unless you were on about the fact it does not go through Parry Barr @Westy
I saw it while I was in Bull St.
Due to an RTC on the Aldridge Road by the Central Buses depot, 33's, Streetly, 907's and 997/E's are currently running quite late...I'm on 6752 on a 936 which is about 30 minutes late...
2 x96 in convoy at merry hill 12:55 one just going to dudley
Bloxwich X51 left town 20 mins late about 18:05, along with another late X51 not sure on it being the one before or after
Pile up on the Chester Road apparently, 28 and 96 delayed
3 28s turned up together in Erdington ~18:15 (naturally the one at the back was the real 28 that actually runs to Scott Arms, and he went round the others >:( )
People at the stop said they've been waiting over an hour for a 96
Quote from: Kevin on December 07, 2017, 06:24:40 PM
Pile up on the Chester Road apparently, 28 and 96 delayed
3 28s turned up together in Erdington ~18:15 (naturally the one at the back was the real 28 that actually runs to Scott Arms, and he went round the others >:( )
People at the stop said they've been waiting over an hour for a 96
Whole of that side of town screwed. It's tailing back to Bromford and even the 11s are an hour late
Good to see normal service has resumed. 6723 left city 25 late as the 17:45 Bloxwich X51
Quote from: Kevin on December 12, 2017, 06:13:25 PM
Good to see normal service has resumed. 6723 left city 25 late as the 17:45 Bloxwich X51
It was an incident between 'The Bell' & 'The Boundary' I dropped 6848 off at Walsall on my way home and just past the lights at The Bell was stationary, so I went through Yew Tree Estate not seeing what the actual problem was
The x10s were running in twos today
Quote from: Tony on December 12, 2017, 06:24:17 PM
It was an incident between 'The Bell' & 'The Boundary' I dropped 6848 off at Walsall on my way home and just past the lights at The Bell was stationary, so I went through Yew Tree Estate not seeing what the actual problem was
I believe it's a burst water main. They've put temporary traffic lights up whilst the problem is being fixed.
Number 9 will be running Late due to a bad rtc at belle vale big diversion on to get it to Halesowen
Looking like a nice half hour wait for an X51 in the evening peak
Any clues on today's excuse?
Quote from: Kevin on December 14, 2017, 06:00:09 PM
Looking like a nice half hour wait for an X51 in the evening peak
Any clues on today's excuse?
It will be the same as yesterday, temp lights by Queens Road
Quote from: karl724223 on December 14, 2017, 11:27:55 AM
Number 9 will be running Late due to a bad rtc at belle vale big diversion on to get it to Halesowen
Nice diversion that, on another note the people are getting seriously annoyed with the lateness of the 4H service, I expect complaints have been made as many have said they will write to centro.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 14, 2017, 07:47:00 PM
Nice diversion that, on another note the people are getting seriously annoyed with the lateness of the 4H service, I expect complaints have been made as many have said they will write to centro.
That'll help! Centro ceased to exist several months ago
A lot of traffic on the Hagley road tonight caused delays to everything that went up it tonight
Also merry hill still very busy tonight
3 6s in convoy along Digbeth towards City
3 29s going down Barnes Hill towards the City Centre
Theres been a accident on Lee Bank Middleway.
May cause some delays and congestion around the City Centre and may have some affect the 8A/C, 45/7, 61/3, 98/X64, 144, Harborne and Hagley Road services.
Quote from: 2206 on December 17, 2017, 10:48:07 AM
Theres been a accident on Lee Bank Middleway.
May cause some delays and congestion around the City Centre and may have some affect the 8A/C, 45/7, 61/3, 98/X64, 144, Harborne and Hagley Road services.
35 might be too. It will be in traffic on Sherlock Street if it does with the Pershore Road buses.
71's appear to be fairly unreliable today.
1876 and 1930 were in convey with 7024 2 minutes behind at Minworth going towards Sutton at about 15:10 and its a every 20 minute frequency route.
Some people on 1925 were complaining about having to wait 45 minutes for it, I was waiting 30 myself - when I looked at the ticket machine, I think it said late 89, may have misread that though at about 15:40.
I boarded 1932 at Clock Garage at about 12:00, it took nearly an hour to get to Sutton I got of at 12:58, about 20 minutes longer than its timetabled to take.
1872 and 1875 are running in twos on the 28, not long left Perry Beeches for Heartlands Hospital.
1861 and a 4 branded omnilink have been in convoy for two hours. Both left halesowen towards walsall 14:20 back in Halesowen to Hayley green 16:36 together
6740 running half an hour late on the 35/77, left Walsall on the 35 13:45 just as I was waiting for it to appear on the 77
Ffs I've been waiting for 5 hours for a 126, still nothing ;)
Quote from: Dom on December 25, 2017, 01:27:19 PM
Ffs I've been waiting for 5 hours for a 126, still nothing ;)
Lmao ;D I think that should be the 4H!
I was on either X1 or X2 today around 3:30 and INIT machine said 70 late on the top right corner.
It seemed to confirm the arrival time at the city centre which was supposed to be 2 o'clock something.
I believe most buses on Coventry road are very late due to Christmas chaos in the city centre.
I caught a 60 in Yardley around 6.30pm. We were then overtaken by two more 60's. Our convoy of three were nose to tail pretty much all the way into the city centre.
Services seem very punctual today even the 4H
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 28, 2017, 01:57:38 PM
Services seem very punctual today even the 4H
That's a change, your not moaning about the 4H being late all the time.
Merry hill shappin centre traffic busy slight delay to services
I have split off a load of irrelevant posts into a new thread, please keep this one for discussing late running buses, not for slagging off various bits of Birmingham. ;)
An x96 Dudley followed a normal x96 from Stourbridge 11:00. Think there was an incident somewhere on route
3 98s coming down Broad St into City. Not far behind an X64.
WB 5's are all over the place today. Most are running in twos.
Quote from: Jack on January 20, 2018, 03:36:52 PM
WB 5's are all over the place today. Most are running in twos.
It's like that most Saturdays it's especially bad around New Oscott with cars queueing to get into the Tescos.
Small brook Queensway was particular bad today, took ages to get onto the island and traffic was backed right up to the bull ring.
Quote from: j789 on January 20, 2018, 09:30:43 PM
Small brook Queensway was particular bad today, took ages to get onto the island and traffic was backed right up to the bull ring.
It was absolutely dire. It's getting worse and worse. I left town at around half 1 and it was like I was sat in rush hour traffic.
Quote from: MasterPlan on January 21, 2018, 01:09:42 AM
It was absolutely dire. It's getting worse and worse. I left town at around half 1 and it was like I was sat in rush hour traffic.
I've given up on it, it takes an eternity trying to get round Holloway Circus these days. I walk to the ICC and catch the bus from there. I wish the Harborne services used the old route of Snow Hill, Colmore Row and Newhall St in the city centre.
Quote from: Mike K on January 21, 2018, 09:58:56 AM
I've given up on it, it takes an eternity trying to get round Holloway Circus these days. I walk to the ICC and catch the bus from there. I wish the Harborne services used the old route of Snow Hill, Colmore Row and Newhall St in the city centre.
Those 'temporary' traffic lights that they have put up around the island have made things worse. Granted they do help city bound services get off Bristol Street easily but this positive is undermined by the way outbound traffic from Smallbrook Queensway and inbound traffic from Bath Row are severly delayed. There must be a better solution. Unfortunately, the planners in Birmingham seem to have no clue and closing Corporation St to buses has made things far worse.
Quote from: Mike K on January 21, 2018, 09:58:56 AM
I've given up on it, it takes an eternity trying to get round Holloway Circus these days. I walk to the ICC and catch the bus from there. I wish the Harborne services used the old route of Snow Hill, Colmore Row and Newhall St in the city centre.
I like the route it takes as it provides additional links etc. However if it becomes untenable then unfortunately I agree.
Lots of traffic going towards Aston Express this evening affecting services from Priory Queensway, snow hill and square peg way. Lots of police going towards the Aston expressway what happened?
Quote from: MasterPlan on January 22, 2018, 07:09:24 AM
I like the route it takes as it provides additional links etc. However if it becomes untenable then unfortunately I agree.
Pretty sure it's quicker to get off and walk then stay on the bus
Quote from: Jack D on January 22, 2018, 06:54:36 PM
Lots of traffic going towards Aston Express this evening affecting services from Priory Queensway, snow hill and square peg way. Lots of police going towards the Aston expressway what happened?
It looks like 1799 broke down in the left lane just as you come onto the Flyover heading out of City...And there was an RTC a few yards ahead in the right lane...Don't think both were connected, but it caused chaos coming out of City, as vehicles had to basically weave between the bus and the RTC.
Load of number 9 aimlessly driving around Stourbridge bus station. 6106 left on 9E to kings head.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 29, 2018, 02:05:18 PM
Load of number 9 aimlessly driving around Stourbridge bus station. 6106 left on 9E to kings head.
loads You've named one bus what's the other numbers?
Quote from: karl724223 on January 29, 2018, 02:09:14 PM
loads You've named one bus what's the other numbers?
6113 also on a 9E to kings head. 6101 parked NIS in layover.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 29, 2018, 02:21:12 PM
6113 also on a 9E to kings head. 6101 parked NIS in layover.
What's to say that it isn't broken? Or has no relief? In addition to that, that is 3 buses out of around 20? Hardly a load, also they would not be aimlessly going around if they had a 9E to Bearwood destinated. Maybe it had just come in so it was pulling around to the stand as the stand may of been in use?
A bus station doesn't work like clock work all the time!
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 29, 2018, 02:21:12 PM
6113 also on a 9E to kings head. 6101 parked NIS in layover.
ANDREW three is hardly a load of buses
@Trident 4194ANDREW for your information 4194 is still at pensnett bottom yard not Miller st
@Trident 4194
Quote from: karl724223 on January 29, 2018, 06:39:14 PM
ANDREW three is hardly a load of buses @Trident 4194
Update issued by our control room at 08:00 ( before the breakdown)
"As well as previously mentioned expected disruption, the temporary traffic lights on Broad Street at Bridge were stuck on red for a period of time early and have increased delays;
Services 9,X10,120,120A,126,127,128,129,140 - up to 30 minutes"
So buses up to 30 min late. 3 buses together on the 9 is only 15 minutes worth in the peak
Anyone know how long the temporary lights at the Five Ways end of Broad St (Bishopsgate St) are due to be in place for? They're making the already painfully slow Harborne routes even more late running than usual, and presumably affecting Hagley Road services similarly. Got to say that Broad St / Paradise Circus are a complete joke these days.
EDIT - a bit of Googling shows this will last for around 4 weeks :(
28's running in twos this afternoon.
Quote from: Jack on January 31, 2018, 07:55:03 PM
28's running in twos this afternoon.
Truck hit the low bridge on Summer Road Erdington
Quote from: John on January 31, 2018, 07:56:39 PM
Truck hit the low bridge on Summer Lane Erdington
Despite the warning signs there the stupid truck driver still decided to go under. He must of been brain dead not to see the signs.
Quote from: John on January 31, 2018, 07:56:39 PM
Truck hit the low bridge on Summer Road Erdington
This bridge gets hit way too often
Is the 2nd Cannock X51 running this morning?
Was out in good time but didnt turn up by the time the Arriva 2 arrived!
28 running in pairs this afternoon.
Dunno what was up with the Hagley Road this morning. Seemed worse than normal; normally not one to complain, but the 0805 9, 0806 140 and so on did not show until 8:15, or thereabouts. When they did show, 611* came into Colmore Row 'Not in Service', with 6112 following displaying 9E to Quinton Church.
Going along the Hagley Road outbound, the inbound direction was absolutely hammered.
Quote from: CL on February 27, 2018, 09:59:12 AM
Dunno what was up with the Hagley Road this morning. Seemed worse than normal; normally not one to complain, but the 0805 9, 0806 140 and so on did not show until 8:15, or thereabouts. When they did show, 611* came into Colmore Row 'Not in Service', with 6112 following displaying 9E to Quinton Church.
Going along the Hagley Road outbound, the inbound direction was absolutely hammered.
I've just checked the tracker and it looks like I'll have the choice of 6 9s in the space of 6 mins. Can't wait to be told to get on the packed one again
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 27, 2018, 10:02:26 AM
I've just checked the tracker and it looks like I'll have the choice of 6 9s in the space of 6 mins. Can't wait to be told to get on the packed one again
You mean the one with only 35 spare seats like last time
Is there really a 45 min gap In the service of the 9? Going from halesowen to Stourbridge
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 01, 2018, 09:46:09 AM
Is there really a 45 min gap In the service of the 9? Going from halesowen to Stourbridge
If you're in Halesowen you might no why, It is taking around 50 minutes to get from Colley Gate into Halesowen towards Birmingham.
There won't actually be a 45 minute wait as control are turning odd vehicles at Bearwood to fill the gap
Quote from: Tony on March 01, 2018, 09:57:37 AM
If you're in Halesowen you might no why, It is taking around 50 minutes to get from Colley Gate into Halesowen towards Birmingham.
There won't actually be a 45 minute wait as control are turning odd vehicles at Bearwood to fill the gap
I'll have a look in 10 mins, I'll let you know more
Quote from: Tony on March 01, 2018, 09:57:37 AM
If you're in Halesowen you might no why, It is taking around 50 minutes to get from Colley Gate into Halesowen towards Birmingham.
There won't actually be a 45 minute wait as control are turning odd vehicles at Bearwood to fill the gap
You did a good job with the 9s today. Very well done. Despite the very heavy loadings experienced on 3301- the bus turned up a lot sooner than was expected which was good. Was it the temporary traffic lights near halesowen causing issues- as when I went past there was no traffic anywhere
Crash in colley gate now apparently 1 and half hour wait for 9 from Stourbridge according to centro person
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 01, 2018, 04:12:31 PM
You did a good job with the 9s today. Very well done. Despite the very heavy loadings experienced on 3301- the bus turned up a lot sooner than was expected which was good. Was it the temporary traffic lights near halesowen causing issues- as when I went past there was no traffic anywhere
I don't know. I am based in Birmingham Council control room, and while I can see where buses are getting stuck outside Birmingham I don't knwo the cause
I'm assuming that buses across the region are grinding to a halt now? I've travelled 3 miles in an hour on 6881. Getting off and walking the last mile.
Quote from: Mike K on March 01, 2018, 06:23:11 PM
I'm assuming that buses across the region are grinding to a halt now? I've travelled 3 miles in an hour on 6881. Getting off and walking the last mile.
Only a small number of services subject to diversion:
http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-alerts/snow-on-the-way
http://alerts.networkwestmidlands.com/
The problem is that services running normally are getting delayed by slow moving traffic. Road conditions are horrendous.
Quote from: Stu on March 01, 2018, 06:30:55 PM
Only a small number of services subject to diversion:
http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-alerts/snow-on-the-way
http://alerts.networkwestmidlands.com/
The problem is that services running normally are getting delayed by slow moving traffic. Road conditions are horrendous.
I had an hour and a half ride on the 28 home earlier, a journey that normally takes 45 minutes. I praise the driver for trying his best for battling the snow.
I've been on the 126 3 hours and 15 mins on nowhere near Dudley from Birmingham
Quite a number of delays today due to the severe weather and traffic chaos...
I saw the evening Boney Hay 937 pass me in Kingstanding earlier at 19:30, running about 1 hour and 35 minutes late.
Buses are having to park up with passengers on so drivers can have their 30 minutes RTA break..
Quote from: Michael Bevan on March 01, 2018, 08:32:29 PM
Quite a number of delays today due to the severe weather and traffic chaos...
I saw the evening Boney Hay 937 pass me in Kingstanding earlier at 19:30, running about 1 hour and 35 minutes late.
Buses are having to park up with passengers on so drivers can have their 30 minutes RTA break..
No Buses are serving Pheasey atm, apparently the locals aren't very happy!
Quote from: Michael Bevan on March 01, 2018, 08:32:29 PM
Quite a number of delays today due to the severe weather and traffic chaos...
I saw the evening Boney Hay 937 pass me in Kingstanding earlier at 19:30, running about 1 hour and 35 minutes late.
Buses are having to park up with passengers on so drivers can have their 30 minutes RTA break..
Bet that went down well with the passengers?
Quote from: Westy on March 01, 2018, 09:20:03 PM
Bet that went down well with the passengers?
I think the passengers would have been happy at the fact they were on a bus heading home, and not standing out in the cold...
Quote from: Westy on March 01, 2018, 09:20:03 PM
Bet that went down well with the passengers?
It will have done with the majority as it got them home, and they know what the problem was
According to the Network West Midlands app I use, the last 935 of the day and second to last full 934 should have arrived in Walsall at around 22:20. The 935 was supposed to have arrived in Walsall at 19:59 and the 934 should have arrived at 20:33...I'd hate to think how late they are...I think both are late night buses too...
Took me 1 hour 20 from City to Castle Vale from 17.40. Ended up 76 minutes late in the end so missed the whole of the last trip I had to do (20.20 from City and 20.51 from Castle Vale. A nice 1 hour 2 minute overtime claim tonight
I left merry hill on a x10 at 1430 and got back to merry hill at 2005
Not looking good for start of service this morning...The first Streetly bus of the day is only just coming through Kingstanding 25 minutes late...Today is going to be fun...
On the other end of the spectrum, my 55 this morning was showing as 54mins early on its ticket machine! Haha
Quote from: Jack on March 01, 2018, 08:34:02 PM
No Buses are serving Pheasey atm, apparently the locals aren't very happy!
Debatable, they know up in Pheasey how bad the roads get
Quote from: Kevin on March 02, 2018, 08:39:33 AM
Debatable, they know up in Pheasey how bad the roads get
Now Perry Beeches haven't got any buses. People aren't happy at all, especially that they have to do a walk up to Tower Hill to get a bus. One person said to me, 'It's a joke, Beeches Road, Thornbridge and Hassop Road have been gritted and they decide not give us any Buses!' They've said they complained, I really don't get these people, I assume they've never ridden a bus in the snow Beeches Road. When the snow was melting away in December, 1871 slid down most of Beeches Road, the driver even said that Perry Beeches is atrocious when the snow is melting.
When 6728 arrived at the Scott arms on x51 at 19.45 this evening, it was shown to be 150 minutes late on the ticket machine, my longest ever commute from city on there.
3 82s leaving Square Peg in city together just now, 10:25
Not NX but two 144s to Worcester going through Selly Oak within a few mins of each other. Never seen that before.
Quote from: Jack on March 02, 2018, 09:55:44 AM
When the snow was melting away in December, 1871 slid down most of Beeches Road, the driver even said that Perry Beeches is atrocious when the snow is melting.
I first read it as 'When the snow was melting away in December 1871' :D :D :D
4 24s outbound one of many suffering routes in and around Holloway Circus which is back to it's gridlocking worst
37's running very late because of temporary traffic by Reddings Lane.
3 76s going down the Bristol Road towards the QE
Hagley road services was running late this morning due to one lane being coned of by gillott road bus stop in bound no roadworks and no workmen
Quote from: karl724223 on March 14, 2018, 02:18:20 PM
Hagley road services was running late this morning due to one lane being coned of by gillott road bus stop in bound no roadworks and no workmen
why can't they open up the road if they're not going to be working on there
On 6731 now 30 late due to beacon road being gridlocked.
Aldridge road and Queslett rd extremely heavy to. 5's and 997's going to be extremely late.
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on March 15, 2018, 08:29:54 AM
On 6731 now 30 late due to beacon road being gridlocked.
Aldridge road and Queslett rd extremely heavy to. 5's and 997's going to be extremely late.
M6 traffic has screwed up Great Barr again. I was only leaving Scott Arms at the time I'm normally in town
2 mmcs, 1 streetdeck, 1 trident all in Halesowen bus station towards Stourbridge at 10:22. 3303 couple minutes behind- carrying surprisingly large amounts considering 4 buses only went about 4 minutes before
6860, 6866 and 6853 in convoy on the 29, one of which adjusted to a 29E Weoley Castle.
1813 ticket machine currently showing 40 mins late on the 8A
Edit. Eventually 68 mins late when I alighted in the Jewellery Quarter
6106 was displaying Stourbridge at 10:35 in Halesowen today. Then switched to NIS in Halesowen getting all the people onto the streetdeck. Presume his driving hours were almost up.
1874/5 are following each other to Heartlands, closely followed by a 186* about half an hour ago.
Roadworks and associated temp traffic lights on Witton / Brookvale Road delaying the 7 and 11A/C, and by proxy Diamonds 68, found out the hard way
The 15:12 bus from Hassop Road to City failed to arrive, had to catch the 15:22 bus instead, the bus that comes from the garage to do the PM Peak. So much for one of Birmingham's 'best run routes'. Understandable for the 28, not really the 52. A few OAP's were quite angry as well.
Quote from: Jack on March 28, 2018, 07:08:53 PM
The 15:12 bus from Hassop Road to City failed to arrive, had to catch the 15:22 bus instead, the bus that comes from the garage to do the PM Peak. So much for one of Birmingham's 'best run routes'. Understandable for the 28, not really the 52. A few OAP's were quite angry as well.
can you do the job better
Quote from: karl724223 on March 28, 2018, 07:30:24 PM
can you do the job better
What now? Just stated it was the first time I've never seen the 52 miss a journey. I've never mentioned the 52 late before or even miss out a journey.
On a 997E to Pheasey now 31 late. Currently on Dyas Road
Today some buses were running late due to schools breaking up early
Some people were going on holiday for the bank holiday weekend
And finally heavy rain didn't help
Most of the 67 route was a car park this morning due to the M6 south been closed after an early morning accident. 45 minutes late coming off this morning
Today buses 244 4H X10 were running late due to resurfacing work Coombs wood junction to the bottom of mucklow hill off peak working
2 244s Dudley bound about 21:30 from Halesowen 8 mins between them.
Quote from: karl724223 on April 06, 2018, 05:39:19 PM
Today buses 244 4H X10 were running late due to resurfacing work Coombs wood junction to the bottom of mucklow hill off peak working
And again today
Four way traffic lights on kford cross causing a few delays on the 256/7
X10 - 6712 starting at Bearwood at about 1640, obviously in the interests of causing maximum delay to the largest number of people as soon as 6717 arrived at Bearwood, both buses set off together....
Delete on X10. Myesterday was caused buy roadworks quarry bank high st temporary lights for a little hole about 2 foot by 2 foot 24 inches by 24 inches for the kids
Stop and go boards Coombs wood resurfacing work
Road works on long lane causing traffic to back up across the island to of mucklow hill so traffic was down to B AND Q island
Then cars using the bus lane paradise circus to broad st
Delays on the Hagley road Wolverhampton road junction were caused by a car v motorbike rtc closing the road 140 9 x10 all affected
The motorbike was split in half
15 minutes ago, 1870, 1868 1867 within seconds of each other on Hassop Road towards Scott Arms.
One for you
@Dom 2 4Hs due together
Most buses on broad st today we're stuck in traffic as no workmen was controlling the traffic flow stopping them going down the bus lanes worse paradise circus onto broad st just a kind of cars
Traffic light failure at Bordesley Circus caused a right nightmare this morning. According to Google Maps the whole of Small Heath Highway was congested, and my X1 (which had seeming turned up on time at Kathleen Road) struggled to get round Heybarnes Circus and onto the Coventry Road through Small Heath, which is congested enough at the best of times. As I disembarked at Bordesley station at approx 8:55 I noted on the ticket machine display that the bus was actually "Late 29".
I also discovered from Google Maps that there had been a crash on Stratford Road in Sparkbrook, which no doubt compounded things further.
I walked home this evening along the canal. Does anyone know if the lights are working again at Bordesley Circus?
(Ironically they weren't working yesterday evening either, and the funny thing was that apart from the stacked up traffic on Small Heath Highway, the rest of the traffic seemed to be flowing far better than usual!)
Quote from: Stu on May 02, 2018, 07:19:14 PM
Does anyone know if the lights are working again at Bordesley Circus?
When I went past at about 7:15pm this evening, the lights were still not working. All the lights had a sign on them indicating they were non working, so might not be a short term problem....
17**- Volvo Was running 20 minutes late this morning. Should have done The 8:56 from Halesowen to loop. Pretty sure this journey has more than sufficient time?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 08, 2018, 03:08:33 PM
17**- Volvo Was running 20 minutes late this morning. Should have done The 8:56 from Halesowen to loop. Pretty sure this journey has more than sufficient time?
So you saw that the driver just parked up between Oldbury and Blackheath and deliberately made himself 20 late then?
Ah no he didn't actually. He left Walsall just two minutes late, was 24 late by Blackheath, but had used the extra time in the timetable to make 7 minutes back up and was 17 late arriving in Halesowen
Quote from: Tony on May 08, 2018, 03:14:00 PM
So you saw that the driver just parked up between Oldbury and Blackheath and deliberately made himself 20 late then?
Ah no he didn't actually. He left Walsall just two minutes late, was 24 late by Blackheath, but had used the extra time in the timetable to make 7 minutes back up and was 17 late arriving in Halesowen
There was very heavy traffic around Birchley Island in Oldbury this morning as I was trying to join the M5, I'd be surprised if that wasn't delaying the 4s.
Saw two 50a's to Wythall (both with passengers on) at the Maypole about 7pm this evening so must have been a delay somewhere as aren't the 50a every 30 mins?
Diamond and nx 4H are running in convoys again 1846 and 1847 together
4 9s In convoy. What a joke of a service
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 17, 2018, 10:35:14 AM
4 9s In convoy. What a joke of a service
So you think all 4 would intentionally bunch up to pee people off. Obviously there has been a hold up on route, and AVL have not had the chance to adjust any yet. It takes time for them to adjust buses if there are lots running late all over the system
858 on the 301 around 520pm was running 11 mins late, according to the ticket machine.
(Nothing new on this corridor in the afternoon peaks.
In fact its a toss up whether the Bloxwich or the Dudley corridor is worse!)
My Walsall bound 997 was 18 late earlier leaving pheasey, I believe it was the 15:53 off Brum.
Quote from: John on May 17, 2018, 11:12:27 AM
So you think all 4 would intentionally bunch up to pee people off. Obviously there has been a hold up on route, and AVL have not had the chance to adjust any yet. It takes time for them to adjust buses if there are lots running late all over the system
I some how find it incredible how much more reliable the x10 is considering it uses the same road! As I've been saying before this route needs to be split or at least have a few timetabled E journeys to bear wood to avoid the congestion in Brum.
3 24s in convoy at Five Ways, Broad Street inbound.
Saw 3 number 14's leaving the City in convoy at 1845 yesterday.
I was suprised to see that at that time of the evening they hadn't been regulated back on time or does that sort of thing not happen nowadays?
Dave
All Hagley road services affected by a rtc by akbars
28's a joke this evening.
Quote from: Jack on May 23, 2018, 05:39:33 PM
28's a joke this evening.
Only two of the 14 buses out there are outside the TC's guidelines of more than 4 late
Quote from: karl724223 on May 23, 2018, 04:47:56 PM
All Hagley road services affected by a rtc by akbars
Where's akbars?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 23, 2018, 06:19:44 PM
Where's akbars?
Hagley Road, Edgbaston. Road was fully closed one way with a diversion in place for a time
Quote from: Tony on May 23, 2018, 06:23:02 PM
Hagley Road, Edgbaston. Road was fully closed one way with a diversion in place for a time
Ah okay cheers Tony.
Harborne services not good today, relaibility is never great but six 24s in 16 minutes is pretty exceptional:
Quote from: Mike K on May 25, 2018, 06:18:33 PM
Harborne services not good today, relaibility is never great but six 24s in 16 minutes is pretty exceptional:
Mostly due to idiots illegally parking whilst dropping passengers of at New Street Station on Smallbrook Queensway. It kept gringing to a half from early afternoon
I've noticed that the drivers of the First 144 buses seem to get stuck on that turn on Smallbrook Queensway cause of idiots parking in the way etc a lot too causing delays.
Shame some of the cars don't get clamped that park illegally then they will think twice about where they park
Nothing that having a tow truck sitting in the front of New Street station wouldn't do to hurt. Simple deterrent......
Quote from: Solo1 on May 25, 2018, 07:07:46 PM
Shame some of the cars don't get clamped that park illegally then they will think twice about where they park
clamping cars so they cannot be moved when they are blocking traffic is not a good idea
Perhaps heavy fines instead...?
On the subject of the Harborne routes, and not arguing with the fact that the loop around Priory Queensway, Grand Central and Smallbrook Queensway has created some helpful connections, it's also served to make a horribly delayed corridor more unrealible than ever. Whilst I don't like the look of most of the prospals from the South Birmingham consultation, none of the proposed routes around the city centre involve the current city loop, which can take an eternity. Sadly, the old route out of town via Colmore Row and Great Charles Street wasn't on the list of options either.
Quote from: Tony on May 25, 2018, 07:20:10 PM
clamping cars so they cannot be moved when they are blocking traffic is not a good idea
they are blocking traffic then tow the car away & only released on payment
of say £500 this should make them think twice about where they park or get the bus save the hassle of parking
Quote from: Solo1 on May 25, 2018, 08:15:26 PM
they are blocking traffic then tow the car away & only released on payment
of say £500 this should make them think twice about where they park or get the bus save the hassle of parking
Again, brilliant in principle, but impossible. First how does the tow truck get to the cars, then block the road again while it loads it on. The annoying thing is most of them actually have people in, so you couldn't tow them anyway
Hagley Road services gone right down the drain this evening.
Pershore Road services completely abandoned with boats sent to rescue passengers on stranded buses (yes - seriously)
Harborne buses abandoned on Harborne Road due to a large sinkhole appearing!
Quote from: pndriver on May 27, 2018, 06:56:50 PM
Hagley Road services gone right down the drain this evening.
literally 😂
Quote from: pndriver on May 27, 2018, 06:56:50 PM
Hagley Road services gone right down the drain this evening.
Things seemed to have improved by the time I travelled home this evening, the X10 I caught from Bearwood was only six minutes late by the time it arrived in the city centre. There was still a little bit of flooding in the Five Ways underpass, this was a little before 9pm.
Quote from: Tony on May 27, 2018, 07:38:19 PM
Pershore Road services completely abandoned with boats sent to rescue passengers on stranded buses (yes - seriously)
Harborne buses abandoned on Harborne Road due to a large sinkhole appearing!
Picture of Pershore Road boat rescue:
Where abouts on the Pershore Road was this?
Quote from: fleetline6477 on May 28, 2018, 10:59:42 AM
Where abouts on the Pershore Road was this?
By Pebble Mill I think
12:31 49 off Solihull is a no show
3 X64s entering City within the space of a a few mins.
How the heck can a bus starting from the depot still be at least 5 mins late?
719 13 from Walsall.
Quote from: Westy on June 26, 2018, 07:29:41 AM
How the heck can a bus starting from the depot still be at least 5 mins late?
719 13 from Walsall.
Defect fixed before leaving garage
Change bus for a defective vehicle
Traffic from garage to starting point
Quote from: John on June 26, 2018, 07:47:02 AM
Defect fixed before leaving garage
Change bus for a defective vehicle
Traffic from garage to starting point
Driver turning up late
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 26, 2018, 07:47:55 AM
Driver turning up late
They usually have drivers on spare to avoid this.
Dartmouth Circus, Lancaster Circus and James Watt Queensway gridlocked now. Come off 16 minutes late and the bus hasn't got round the ialand yet
2 29s, 2 22s and a 23 outbound around California.
An hour gap in 241 service due to breakdown.
The :35 departure running board on the 205 has been adjusted on 3 of the 4 trips between 12:30 and 16:40.
High oak causing cahos.... Again!
14:59 28 from Hassop Road to Scott Arms, never turned up. I do wonder why some poor people rely on this joke of a service.
You are a bit quick to judge, how do you know what has happened? I've been on buses that have come out of service for numerous reasons including: wee on seats, faulty wipers, faulty radios, sick and engine problems. Would you really want a bus with any of the previous problems continuing service because you can't wait a further 12 minutes without becoming outraged. I've waited 30 mins, 60mind for a further bus but i don't moan because I'm unaware of the circumstance.
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on June 29, 2018, 08:56:46 PM
You are a bit quick to judge, how do you know what has happened? I've been on buses that have come out of service for numerous reasons including: wee on seats, faulty wipers, faulty radios, sick and engine problems. Would you really want a bus with any of the previous problems continuing service because you can't wait a further 12 minutes without becoming outraged. I've waited 30 mins, 60mind for a further bus but i don't moan because I'm unaware of the circumstance.
The 28 is and will always be an awful route for reliability, unless any changes occur. Fyi I never did wait another 12 minutes, because there is a regular possibility with the 28 that if the bus coming late won't arrive then the next scheduled bus won't arrive either! Instead I got onto 4809 and changed onto 4735 which saved me wasting my time for the joke that is the 28.
Quote from: Jack on June 29, 2018, 09:14:17 PM
Fyi I never did wait another 12 minutes, because there is a regular possibility with the 28 that if the bus coming late won't arrive then the next scheduled bus won't arrive either! Instead I got onto 4809 and changed onto 4735 which saved me wasting my time for the joke that is the 28.
If only there was some kind of smartphone app that told you when the next bus was going to arrive at a stop... ;D
Quote from: Jack on June 29, 2018, 09:14:17 PM
The 28 is and will always be an awful route for reliability, unless any changes occur. Fyi I never did wait another 12 minutes, because there is a regular possibility with the 28 that if the bus coming late won't arrive then the next scheduled bus won't arrive either! Instead I got onto 4809 and changed onto 4735 which saved me wasting my time for the joke that is the 28.
In that time you could have walked to Scott Arms
Quote from: Stu on June 30, 2018, 09:43:02 AM
If only there was some kind of smartphone app that told you when the next bus was going to arrive at a stop... ;D
Fair point - but honestly I couldn't be bothered standing in the heat waiting for another 12 minutes. The NX app on my phone has been playing up lately as I'm constantly getting 'no departures'.
Quote from: Kevin on June 30, 2018, 09:45:29 AM
In that time you could have walked to Scott Arms
True - I've had to do that many times as well because of the 28's excuses. In fact I was going to walk it until 4809 came rolling down the road, fancied a little ride on it anyway.
I live around the corner from the 28's Heartlands Hospital terminus and I constantly see buses there laying over which doesn't seem to suggest they are running late, its to the contrary if anything.
4944 on the 16:30 X70 to Birmingham City Centre turned up at Coleshill High Street at 16:51, 21 minutes late, leaving a 51 minute gap between 4913 and 4944.
It seemed rather busy, presumably it picked up a number of passengers who would have got on the 17:07 as well.
Quote from: Stu on June 30, 2018, 09:43:02 AM
If only there was some kind of smartphone app that told you when the next bus was going to arrive at a stop... ;D
How come the app doesn't work out in Coleshill, there was no RTI available on the app for the Coleshill High Street, Orchard Close stop yet there was in Bromford?
In Coleshill it just displays the departure times shown on the timetable (eg - 17:07, etc) yet in Bromford it shows how long it will be till the next bus will be at the stop (eg - 3 mins).
Quote from: 2206 on July 02, 2018, 05:58:47 PM
How come the app doesn't work out in Coleshill, there was no RTI available on the app for the Coleshill High Street, Orchard Close stop yet there was in Bromford?
In Coleshill it just displays the departure times shown on the timetable (eg - 17:07, etc) yet in Bromford it shows how long it will be till the next bus will be at the stop (eg - 3 mins).
I can't answer that question, you would need to ask NX Bus about that.
Quote from: Stu on July 02, 2018, 07:45:33 PM
I can't answer that question, you would need to ask NX Bus about that.
It works in Water Orton. I've never tried it in Coleshill
2 X10s In convoy at 16:20 one was a streetdeck
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 03, 2018, 09:03:28 PM
2 X10s In convoy at 16:20 one was a streetdeck
roadworks by station road bridge two way lights for a little hole side of the road both bus stops not in use
Travelled home this evening in the last one of a convoy of four X2 buses, all heading towards Solihull. One passed us heading the other way along Small Heath Highway, which according to the app would be the last one for nearly an hour.
Traffic is horrendous, ring road severely congested, and so was Small Heath Highway towards city, the queue tailed back beyond Poets Corner.
I think I got lucky with the way I timed my journey home, though I will admit I am looking forward to moving soon and not having to endure that route home again!
Half of the Harborne corridor buses currently stuck on Smallbrook Queensway by the looks of it:
Quote from: Mike K on July 05, 2018, 05:28:49 PM
Half of the Harborne corridor buses currently stuck on Smallbrook Queensway by the looks of it:
Yeah, I was waiting at Smallbrook Queensway. It was choc a block.
2 x10s In convoy
2 129s in convoy
6122 and 4430 I think runnning NIS
A34 flyover in Birchfield closed, queues were all the way up the Walsall Road to Scott Arms at one point
I've never seen quite so many NIS buses in Birmingham!!
Quote from: Kevin on July 11, 2018, 10:18:03 AM
A34 flyover in Birchfield closed, queues were all the way up the Walsall Road to Scott Arms at one point
Just a taster of how bad it'll be if plans go ahead to knock it down.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/a34-perry-barr-flyover-birmingham-14830757
Quote from: PB2938 on July 11, 2018, 09:59:57 PM
Just a taster of how bad it'll be if plans go ahead to knock it down.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/a34-perry-barr-flyover-birmingham-14830757
Quote from: PB2938 on July 11, 2018, 09:59:57 PM
Just a taster of how bad it'll be if plans go ahead to knock it down.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/a34-perry-barr-flyover-birmingham-14830757
Not really as it was Trinity Road that was closed today, and there are a lot of other improvement works planned with the flyover demolition, so completely different.
28 messed up again this afternoon, at the best time when the school kids come out.
Quote from: Jack on July 13, 2018, 06:45:52 PM
28 messed up again this afternoon, at the best time when the school kids come out.
But of course, it's not because it was when the kids were finishing school...
1838 NIS in Hayley green unsure how late that one is!!
That must be 40 down
Another 2 due together. Meanwhile diamond are running bang on time- and the tracker can prove this?
@Tony
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 18, 2018, 01:44:50 PM
1838 NIS in Hayley green unsure how late that one is!!
It might not be late? Might be going back to garage with a defect
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 18, 2018, 01:44:50 PM
1838 NIS in Hayley green unsure how late that one is!!
That must be 40 down
Another 2 due together. Meanwhile diamond are running bang on time- and the tracker can prove this? @Tony
Yes, 1838 was late and adjusted, but there weren't two others together
Coventry 21 service had three buses in unison around 15:51 from Trinity St.
37 running in threes.
X1 and x2s very late too.
3 4Hs due within 10 of each other
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 20, 2018, 02:18:21 PM
37 running in threes.
X1 and x2s very late too.
3 4Hs due within 10 of each other
You obviously haven't seen all that so stop posting presumptions off trackers. Same as in the Diamond thread
Quote from: Tony on July 20, 2018, 03:16:38 PM
You obviously haven't seen all that so stop posting presumptions off trackers. Same as in the Diamond thread
I have seen the x1 and x2s in Brum at 14:00
The 37s were in convoy I was on the Gemini and there were 2 other mmcs with us. Going the other way was the same with convoys.
And the 4Hs I didn't see that but the app doesn't lie does it?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 20, 2018, 03:57:34 PM
I have seen the x1 and x2s in Brum at 14:00
The 37s were in convoy I was on the Gemini and there were 2 other mmcs with us. Going the other way was the same with convoys.
And the 4Hs I didn't see that but the app doesn't lie does it?
37s are being delayed due roadworks on Warwick Road (By Acocks Green Village). I boarded an E200MMC which was part of the convoy you also saw. The traffic backing up has a knock on affect as 11Cs were beginning to get clogged up coming into Acocks Green.
2 X22s in convoy, 12:33 Quinton Road outbound
Tracking info seems completely out in places, few times today I've had issues with it claiming nothing due for like an hour and yet a bus turning up on time 5 mins later
had that problem myself was waiting 4 a 42 in Great Bridge saying next bus was 16 mins 3 minutes later 1 turned up
It appears to me, using the app, that quite a few buses aren't tracking at the moment.
Currently 4 4s in Acocks Green. 2 Solihull and 2 Gospel Oak
Just seen 3 23s on Clapgate Lane towards Newman Uni. With 2 more bunched together on Stonehouse Lane about 10-15 mins after.
Not *technically* a late service, people on Sutton waiting for the 12:55 77 to Walsall have had to wait another half hour because 4350 arrived in service, emptied, then driver closed the doors and left with Walsall on the blinds without actually letting anyone board
yes saw that myself and its also been reported
3 24s in convoy up Simmons Drive at 6.15pm towards Quinton road west this afternoon.
Seems like the X21 due at Weoley Castle Square for 6:33 decided not to show up today.
All of the Walsall routes out of Birmingham were running quite late this evening due to roadworks. The Price Street bus stop and the bus gate was shut heading out of City, then there were cones left blocking the right lane heading towards Newtown Swimming Baths which was causing the traffic to back right up. The current roadworks near Miller Street weren't helping either. Buses were running on average 30-45 minutes late.
Hagley Road very busy approaching five ways already seen quite a few 126E and 9E to Quinton church
Hagley road going to five ways starting to get busy expect delays on all Hagley road services
Hagley Road completely screwed atm, serious crash in Bearwood apparently
Inspector at Stourbridge bus station is telling people to use the 276 to Lye or the 142 to Halesowen - agreeing with the Diamond driver to accept NX tickets, decent cooperation there
Quote from: Kevin on August 13, 2018, 02:48:02 PM
Hagley Road completely screwed atm, serious crash in Bearwood apparently
Inspector at Stourbridge bus station is telling people to use the 276 to Lye or the 142 to Halesowen - adreeing with the Diamond driver to accept NX tickets, decent cooperation there
Vehicle/pedestrian RTC by the traffic lights at Bearwood
Given that it's the school summer holidays, Harborne services are an absolute shambles this evening, with the Broad Street slalom and Five Ways traffic caused by the Bath Row bus gate works no doubt adding to the debacle of Smallbrook Queensway.
When I got off 6869 it was showing 24 mins down.
Hagley Road services seemed even worse. Didn't see an outbound 9 for ages.
Quote from: Mike K on August 14, 2018, 06:11:09 PM
Given that it's the school summer holidays, Harborne services are an absolute shambles this evening, with the Broad Street slalom and Five Ways traffic caused by the Bath Row bus gate works no doubt adding to the debacle of Smallbrook Queensway.
When I got off 6869 it was showing 24 mins down.
Hagley Road services seemed even worse. Didn't see an outbound 9 for ages.
Monument Road closed and roadworks at Five Ways and Broad Street has caused delays
Hagley Road wasn't much better it took me 45 minutes to get from Sandon Road to Colmore Row on the 120A this Morning. Ended up leaving City over 30 mins Late.
Quote from: WB Driver on August 14, 2018, 06:15:11 PM
Hagley Road wasn't much better it took me 45 minutes to get from Sandon Road to Colmore Row on the 120A this Morning. Ended up leaving City over 30 mins Late.
Services to Warley were running no better tonight...
The previous bus before that lot was a 120 too.
(I keep these screenshots to prove to my wife that bus reliability really is poor, and that I'm not in the pub after work, or having an affair).
2 73's left Solihull together at 14:53 - 4283 and 2227.
4283 followed 2227 all the way from Solihull to the Yew Tree, not picking anyone up after Solihull Town Centre till I got of at the Yew Tree.
4283's ticket machine said it was 3 minutes late when I got of at the Yew Tree, meaning 2227 must have been 23 minutes late.
997's messed up this afternoon. The 15:34 in Walsall never turned up, so I had a nice long hour wait (I missed the 15:04 bus) for the 16:04 bus which came in the form of 6723 which decided to break down on Shady Lane. Thankfully 6732 was a few minutes 6723.
The 14:00 4M from Merry Hill deceided to layover for an extra five minutes. 1853 was due off at 14:00 but we was 8 minutes late leaving Merry Hill.
Quote from: Jack on August 30, 2018, 06:08:52 PM
997's messed up this afternoon. The 15:34 in Walsall never turned up, so I had a nice long hour wait (I missed the 15:04 bus) for the 16:04 bus which came in the form of 6723 which decided to break down on Shady Lane. Thankfully 6732 was a few minutes 6723.
The 14:00 4M from Merry Hill deceided to layover for an extra five minutes. 1853 was due off at 14:00 but we was 8 minutes late leaving Merry Hill.
I believe the vehicle that was meant to operate that journey was actually broken down at the Scott Arms on an X51. 6731 had the fan belt snap earlier, which left it stuck at Scott Arms for a good couple of hours. I knew the driver who was on it, and I'm sure he said he was meant to come off at 15:26 on a 997 (which the bus would have operated the 15:34 departure).
Quote from: Michael Bevan on August 30, 2018, 08:27:03 PM
I believe the vehicle that was meant to operate that journey was actually broken down at the Scott Arms on an X51. 6731 had the fan belt snap earlier, which left it stuck at Scott Arms for a good couple of hours. I knew the driver who was on it, and I'm sure he said he was meant to come off at 15:26 on a 997 (which the bus would have operated the 15:34 departure).
Speaking of that I saw 6731 and came threw the way the 997 comes in the bus station and then left garage bound. Was a joke though. Apparently another 997 broke down earlier in the day, according to what some OAP's were saying.
@Tony What's the average delay on the 301 & 302 via Leamore at the moment, as last night the 301 I was on (1767 I think?) was 19 down, according to the ticket machine?
7031 running 12 late on the 46, only just left town as the next one arrived
1845 running 50 mins late this morning on the school 881, crawled up Queslett Road from Scott Arms at 09:20. Nice first day back a school for Barr Beacon kids
Quote from: Kevin on September 04, 2018, 09:24:17 AM
1845 running 50 mins late this morning on the school 881, crawled up Queslett Road from Scott Arms at 09:20. Nice first day back a school for Barr Beacon kids
School probably requested it later as they normally start 1 hour later on the first day
Quote from: Tony on September 04, 2018, 09:40:34 AM
School probably requested it later as they normally start 1 hour later on the first day
I dunno the speed it was going made an hour late entirely plausible
Quote from: Kevin on September 04, 2018, 09:43:19 AM
I dunno the speed it was going made an hour late entirely plausible
Not 1845, that has been on the 4 all morning
Quote from: Tony on September 04, 2018, 09:49:25 AM
Not 1845, that has been on the 4 all morning
See I thought I read 1945, but assumed I read it wrong as that's a West Brom vehicle and that the Barr Beacon schools were Walsall garage, my bad
Something happened in Walsall?
Quote from: Tony on September 04, 2018, 12:21:12 PM
Yes
What may I ask? No sign of a 4H, saw 1855 running NIS towards merry hill
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 04, 2018, 12:23:01 PM
What may I ask? No sign of a 4H, saw 1855 running NIS towards merry hill
Why not just try google?
Tweet
04 Sept 2018, 11:18AM (first reported)
Wednesbury Road
Road closed, accident, queueing Traffic.
Road closed and queueing traffic due to accident on Wednesbury Road both ways between Milton Street and Corporation Street. The accident is not too far from the petrol station.
Quote from: Tony on September 04, 2018, 12:37:37 PM
Why not just try google?
Tweet
04 Sept 2018, 11:18AM (first reported)
Wednesbury Road
Road closed, accident, queueing Traffic.
Road closed and queueing traffic due to accident on Wednesbury Road both ways between Milton Street and Corporation Street. The accident is not too far from the petrol station.
Was the 11A supposed to be diverted this afternoon in Stechford just after 13:00 or not.
Some drivers were using Stoney Lane, Bordesley Green East, Belchers Lane, Alum Rock Road and Burney Lane (4635 and 4653).
Wheras others were using the normal line of route and going via Station Road (4670 - despite the two infront taking another route) - A bit ridicilous that the drivers seemed to had no clue whether or not there was a diversion or not, the driver on 4670 later appeared to radio the Garage who clearly said there was a dversion via Heartlands Hospital and the Alum Rock Road. 4670 ended up sitting in a queue of traffic which was non moving for about 45 minutes.
I got on 4670 at Yardley Swan just after 13:00 and got of by Stechford Station at about 13:45 - a much longer journey than usual - usualy a 5 minute journey, walking the rest of the way to The Fox And Goose (as the bus was barely moving).
There was a woman who got on by the Police Station screaming at the driver about drivers taking "the wrong route and not knowing where they were going and saying what about the passengers waiting by the Station" as well.
Apparently there was an accident, though when I walked down there it appeared to be a set of temporary lights and a one way system causing the disruption (there was a NX inspector stood by them talking to the worker as well)?
79 having problems, temporary lights at Hill Top / Witton Lane junction stuck on red
Four 9's running in tandem on Colmore Row just a minute ago. 2 MMCs, 3302 & 4435. Are they every 10 minutes in peak times also?
Quote from: Sh4318 on September 07, 2018, 05:47:19 PM
Four 9's running in tandem on Colmore Row just a minute ago. 2 MMCs, 3302 & 4435. Are they every 10 minutes in peak times also?
Not surprising with how hammered they're getting due to the incident at Cradley Heath, I don't think anyone can complain. Not even
@Trident 4194!
To answer your question, they do increase. I think its 2 or 3 extra buses come out in the afternoon.
Quote from: Kevin on September 04, 2018, 09:58:10 AM
See I thought I read 1945, but assumed I read it wrong as that's a West Brom vehicle and that the Barr Beacon schools were Walsall garage, my bad
I think West Bromwich actually run the morning 881? I'm sure I remember seeing the morning trip some time back with two West Bromwich E40D's on it.
I saw 3 of WA29 in the bus station about 16:00
See the WA 11 / 11a was up to it's usual standard of service between 5 & 6 this evening.
No bus arrived between approx. 520(probably even earlier, as people were already at the stop when I got there!) & 550pm at Lea Avenue in Wednesbury.
I did tweet NX customer services & the reply was due to traffic on route!
What's new!
860 running 25 late round Alumwell on the 36, looks like it got stuck on Blay Avenue because I caught the Thandi 335 which went around Ripon Road instead and saw a bus as we turned off with hazards flashing
the 20:26 80A has not shown up from West Brom... it was running about 20 mins late in the other direction
The 20:20 32 was 13 minutes late tonight any reason why the high street wasn't shut off today and got into lower farm 20 minutes late
2 4Hs in convoy 184* and another omnilink.
Anything going through Holloway Circus will be late today. I don't know what's happened but it's worse than normal. Taken us a good half hour to get through it.
Quote from: MasterPlan on September 18, 2018, 08:08:16 AM
Anything going through Holloway Circus will be late today. I don't know what's happened but it's worse than normal. Taken us a good half hour to get through it.
Car v motobike RTC in the Queensway tunnel
Quote from: Tony on September 18, 2018, 08:18:00 AM
Car v motobike RTC in the Queensway tunnel
Oh dear! I hope everyone involved is alright.
Looks like all of the Edgbaston/Uni routes are affected this evening. Already a couple of 61/63 shorts to Northfield and bad delays. Apparently due to the roadworks on the Bristol Road.
3 X22s going down Bath Row with a few mins. Amongst others I might add.
3 X21s in Selly Oak outbound in convoy too.
80 has 30 mons delay this evening what a joke when trying to catch bus to appointment and you still have a connecting bus to get
Quote from: MasterPlan on September 19, 2018, 05:58:45 PM
3 X22s going down Bath Row with a few mins. Amongst others I might add.
Yes the NXWM app shows X22s due at Uni Station in 1, 1, 32 and 33 mins a short time ago. Reliability seems worse than the old 22 but at least there were more of them.
Quote from: Ginger66 on September 19, 2018, 06:04:22 PM
80 has 30 mons delay this evening what a joke when trying to catch bus to appointment and you still have a connecting bus to get
perhaps you might like to explain how buses can jump over traffic congestion in Birmingham City Centre
This morning in Walsall, no 11/11a between 7 & 730.
Late for work:(
6716 and 6718 on the x10 were running in convoy earlier. 6716 was running 20 late and was going to gornal Wood
First Saturday of the latest Broad Street diversions and Bath Row is already piled up all the way back to Five Ways by midday...
Yeah there's a bus lane but that's half way down, the buses still have to get there first
Quote from: Kevin on September 22, 2018, 12:21:37 PM
First Saturday of the latest Broad Street diversions and Bath Row is already piled up all the way back to Five Ways by midday...
Yeah there's a bus lane but that's half way down, the buses still have to get there first
23/24 have a one way in one way out of city. But it does not help when the tories are in town with there ring of steel.
Quote from: Ginger66 on September 22, 2018, 04:07:49 PM
23/24 have a one way in one way out of city. But it does not help when the tories are in town with there ring of steel.
Point of fact here. Ukip conference this weekend, not the Tories
Quote from: Kevin on September 22, 2018, 04:14:49 PM
Point of fact here. Ukip conference this weekend, not the Tories
Very much correct, I attended that conference and rather than try and figure out where buses were stopping I just walked to the ICC instead, it was about a 15 to 20 min walk from Carrs Lane, so was probably just as quick.
With all the building work going on and areas fenced off, Birmingham city centre feels more like a disaster recovery area than a "vibrant public realm" at present.
A 9 branded MMC and 4437 on the 12 both heading to Dudley but only 5 minutes apart. Peculiar.
This mornings joke of a service. 864 broken in the QE hospital, resulted in the 11:00 not departing.
4236 came in 20 mins late after being queuing outside the QE for 20 mins. Went round to the railway station where he told us another bus was 6 minutes behind and he was told to run private. About 15 minutes later 4259 arrives, luckily not packed.
The x22 were running badly too from what I could gather
All services that have got to run via sheepcote st and sandpits in both directions are running late due to cars being in bus gates and no enforcement by brum shitty council buses running 20/30/40 min plus late so it's not nx fault
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 25, 2018, 01:58:34 PM
4236 came in 20 mins late after being queuing outside the QE for 20 mins. Went round to the railway station where he told us another bus was 6 minutes behind and he was told to run private. About 15 minutes later 4259 arrives, luckily not packed.
The x22 were running badly too from what I could gather
Cycled past the QE around 11 and the cars queueing for the car park were, as ever, all around the block
Hardly NXWM fault
The whole of the west side of the city has gone to pot. 3 X21s headed down Wheeleys Road within around 3 mins of each other a short while ago with an X22 in between.
The traffic was backed up both ways between Broad Street / Sheepcote St all the way down to the island by St Vincents street / Island. Awful,
Also, Summer row was backed up from BMW all the way up to Paradise / Great Charles Street lights. Surely the traffic lights need looking at or more green time ?
18s all over the shop this morning by the looks of things, the short working to Northfield leaving just before this.
Quote from: MasterPlan on September 27, 2018, 09:06:05 AM
18s all over the shop this morning by the looks of things, the short working to Northfield leaving just before this.
Well what do you expect when Frankley Beeches Road is closed due to an RTC?
(back open now)
Quote from: Tony on September 27, 2018, 09:54:33 AM
Well what do you expect when Frankley Beeches Road is closed due to an RTC?
(back open now)
Sorry yes, I should know about every RTC that happens throughout Birmingham.
Quote from: Tony on September 27, 2018, 09:54:33 AM
Well what do you expect when Frankley Beeches Road is closed due to an RTC?
(back open now)
Bristol Road still feeling the back end of it
Quote from: Dom on September 27, 2018, 12:26:13 PM
Bristol Road still feeling the back end of it
Do the Bristol road buses actually have a timetable?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 27, 2018, 12:48:13 PM
Do the Bristol road buses actually have a timetable?
No........
They just drive around for the fun of it
Course they do
Quote from: John on September 27, 2018, 12:59:25 PM
No........
They just drive around for the fun of it
Course they do
Actually think they do drive around for the fun of it. I wouldn't mind driving that route tbf
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 27, 2018, 01:05:32 PM
Actually think they do drive around for the fun of it. I wouldn't mind driving that route tbf
What a stupid thing to say!! Its one of the busiest roads going.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 27, 2018, 12:48:13 PM
Do the Bristol road buses actually have a timetable?
61 and 63 suffering due to the construction of the cycle lane.
After years of neglet and countless extra traffic lights, instead of improving the Bristol Rd they make a cycle lane.
The lanes on the Bristol Rd between Speedwell Rd and Priory Rd are inadequate, they are so narrow that buses have to straddle the white lines, yet the pavements are so wide that a few inches either side could be shaved off.
The junction at Priory Rd (from city) is crying out for a seperate left only filter lane.
Traffic lights at Bournbrook Rd stay on green for vehicles exiting uni gates (even when the gates are CLOSED!).
Traffic lights at Selly Oak station stay on green for vehicles exiting Selly Oak station car park (even when no vehicle is present).
A few changes could make a big difference to traffic flow...
It's not just the 61/63 the ☓20/☓21/☓22 are suffering also it seems.
Quote from: MasterPlan on September 27, 2018, 02:34:46 PM
It's not just the 61/63 the ☓20/☓21/☓22 are suffering also it seems.
The 61 and 63 bear the brunt of it. Bristol St down to one lane most nights, Edgbaston Park Rd / Bristol Rd same too.
Not to mention those traffic lights I mentioned delaying things too. Its unacceptable that traffic on a busy trunk road with 3 main routes should have to wait while the lights are on green for a CAR PARK often with no vehicles exiting. Not to mention the extra pollution of vehicles sat idling.
Quote from: B.C Driver on September 27, 2018, 03:11:02 PM
The 61 and 63 bear the brunt of it. Bristol St down to one lane most nights, Edgbaston Park Rd / Bristol Rd same too.
Not to mention those traffic lights I mentioned delaying things too. Its unacceptable that traffic on a busy trunk road with 3 main routes should have to wait while the lights are on green for a CAR PARK often with no vehicles exiting. Not to mention the extra pollution of vehicles sat idling.
Oh I can imagine they do get the brunt of it, I just meant it has appeared to have had a knock on effect with the Uni buses too.
Any idea on how long these Bristol Road works will be going on for? Until the end of time like most of Birmingham probably.
Quote from: MasterPlan on September 27, 2018, 03:32:51 PM
Oh I can imagine they do get the brunt of it, I just meant it has appeared to have had a knock on effect with the Uni buses too.
Any idea on how long these Bristol Road works will be going on for? Until the end of time like most of Birmingham probably.
Until the cycle lane is completed I guess.
Quote from: B.C Driver on September 27, 2018, 02:32:25 PM
After years of neglet and countless extra traffic lights, instead of improving the Bristol Rd they make a cycle lane.
The lanes on the Bristol Rd between Speedwell Rd and Priory Rd are inadequate, they are so narrow that buses have to straddle the white lines.
A few changes could make a big difference to traffic flow...
Every time they revamp roads anywhere in Birmingham they seem to (a) narrow the carriageway and (b) add more traffic lights. Seems to be the only solution the city's engineers have. Busy junction? Narrow all the lanes and add more lights, filters and crossings. Busy traffic island? Narrow all the lanes and festoon every entrance, exit and junction with traffic lights. Entrance to new development? Make sure all the approach lanes are narrowed and everything in every direction is subjected to lights that allow no more than two vehicles through at any time.
Add to that the lackadaisical enforcement of waiting and loading restrictions against taxi and white van drivers in particular who seem to be medically incapable of seeing the colour yellow when applied to road surfaces, and the city's traffic is, frankly, shameful.
11C's seemed to be running late and awful this morning, no 11's turned up between 07:38 and 08:00 (Ward End), the bus turned up and was rammed (4638) just after 08:00 and couldn't cope with the loads on its own and then the driver ended up shouting "no more" (in response receiving certain passengers screaming at him and repeaedly pressing the stop button) and turning the engine of at every and waiting for a few minutes after they ignored him at nearly every stop between Stechford and Yardley Swan, it didn't seem to work though as after a few minutes he just kept turning it back on and carrying on.
Quote from: B.C Driver on September 27, 2018, 07:19:50 PM
Until the cycle lane is completed I guess.
Yeah that's what I meant, how long until that's completed.
Quote from: Smethwickian on September 27, 2018, 07:50:46 PM
Every time they revamp roads anywhere in Birmingham they seem to (a) narrow the carriageway and (b) add more traffic lights. Seems to be the only solution the city's engineers have. Busy junction? Narrow all the lanes and add more lights, filters and crossings. Busy traffic island? Narrow all the lanes and festoon every entrance, exit and junction with traffic lights. Entrance to new development? Make sure all the approach lanes are narrowed and everything in every direction is subjected to lights that allow no more than two vehicles through at any time.
...
Should add to that a personal hate of mine, when they decide that pedestrian underpasses need to be replaced with a crossing just far enough from a major junction to warrant another set of lights
If its the addition of traffic lights that gets on your nerves, then here's another one; new set of lights appear to have been added to Newhall Street, just round the corner from the Colmore Row & Bennetts Hill junction (outside Pret).
Not in use yet.
Quote from: CL on September 28, 2018, 09:38:38 AM
If its the addition of traffic lights that gets on your nerves, then here's another one; new set of lights appear to have been added to Newhall Street, just round the corner from the Colmore Row & Bennetts Hill junction (outside Pret).
Not in use yet.
Pedestrian lights and to be fair they're needed. It's a bugger trying to cross Newhall St in rush hour, cars travelling too fast, not indicating etc.
Atrotious level of service on the 11 this afternoon.
Crowds of passengers were waiting at every single stop on the 11C route.
4290 turned up at 16:30 (first bus since 15:55) - but just drove past crowds of people as it could not cope with the loads with SK51AYC following closely behind.
4645 then turned up at 17:00 terminating at Ward End on an 11E.
With 4663 in a 11E to Acocks Green and another B7TL ALX400 on the full circle not far behind.
So for the majority of passengers using the 11C this afternoon there was no bus for over an hour,
4516 turned up on the 11A this afternoon the driver was shouting "no more due to there being more people trying to get on than is physically possible.
Something needs to be done to improve reliability and capacity on the Outer Circle in my opinion.
Maybe run peak time extra shorts locally on the route (eg Acocks Green to Ward End and Erdington) to keep the service running.
Edit - wrong thread sorry - meant to post this in the very late running services thread.
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=x22q89&s=9#.W65WgKTTXYU
Pic of departure screen at 15:57
Bus due in 25 minutes turned up at 16:30 - not stopping.
Bus in 35 minutes was 4645 terminating at 17:00.
And the buses due in 36 and 38 minutes were 4663 and another ALX400.
When was the last time any changes were made to the 11A/C?
Quote from: 2206 on September 28, 2018, 05:28:22 PM
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=x22q89&s=9#.W65WgKTTXYU
Pic of departure screen at 15:57
Bus due in 25 minutes turned up at 16:30 - not stopping.
Bus in 35 minutes was 4645 terminating at 17:00.
And the buses due in 36 and 38 minutes were 4663 and another ALX400.
Get the other operators bus then???
Quote from: 2206 on September 28, 2018, 05:19:11 PM
Atrotious level of service on the 11 this afternoon.
Nothing new there then! ;D
There is obviously something wrong somewhere on the route to be causing this, yes the 11A/C is a very frustrating route at the best of times. Last month during my house move, I was frequently travelling between South Yardley and Billesley and actually hated getting the 11 due to the very long layover times the buses were having in Acocks Green village, due to them ironically running on time.
I've said it before, and I hate to be the one to say it again, and I know its an iconic route, but I do think the only way to realistically save the 11 is to split it into two or three seperate routes.
QuoteEdit - wrong thread sorry - meant to post this in the very late running services thread.
Magic wand waved! ;D
11 A/C has always suffered from timekeeping and capacity issues. I used it daily 20 - 25 years ago and the problems were the same then. Very long circular route largely along narrow roads, through busy centres, crossing many busy main roads. Looks like many journeys only have about 5 minutes layover time, Acocks Green and Bearwood, built into timetable. There are so many factors which can cause delays due to roadworks, RTAs, diversions etc between different timing points along the route. Timetabling must be a real issue getting the balance right so to avoid too many delays and too much waiting along the route which can be frustrating. Maybe adding 2 - 3 minutes layover time at key points such as Perry Barr, Cotteridge could help but then that requires extra buses, drivers pushing costs up.
I have often wondered whether at peak times a few journeys which only stop at key points - Bearwood, Harborne, Selly Oak, Bournville, Cotteridge... could help but that would cause other issues.
Sadly, no easy solution too many unpredictables.
Quote from: fleetline6477 on September 28, 2018, 07:16:37 PM
11 A/C has always suffered from timekeeping and capacity issues. I used it daily 20 - 25 years ago and the problems were the same then. Very long circular route largely along narrow roads, through busy centres, crossing many busy main roads. Looks like many journeys only have about 5 minutes layover time, Acocks Green and Bearwood, built into timetable. There are so many factors which can cause delays due to roadworks, RTAs, diversions etc between different timing points along the route. Timetabling must be a real issue getting the balance right so to avoid too many delays and too much waiting along the route which can be frustrating. Maybe adding 2 - 3 minutes layover time at key points such as Perry Barr, Cotteridge could help but then that requires extra buses, drivers pushing costs up.
I have often wondered whether at peak times a few journeys which only stop at key points - Bearwood, Harborne, Selly Oak, Bournville, Cotteridge... could help but that would cause other issues.
Sadly, no easy solution too many unpredictables.
I think AVL try to rectify any isssues with the route fairly quickly. The other day I went to cotteridge and 4668 was turning left from the Hagley Road onto Lordswood road saying NIS before changing to a full 11 upon arriving at the bus stop. Made a change getting on an empty 11!
The M40/M42 were screwed today. Everything South of Solihull running very late. I was approx 40 mins late at one point. As I used to drive the 11, I'd imagine Bromford was where the hold up was.
As for drop backs, they have drop backs at Acocks Green & Perry Barr, and there was usually time at Bearwood too.
If a bus is running very late and the driver is due to come off at Acocks Green, they often send out duplicates from Acocks Green or adjust the duplicate wherever it should be. You always have that initial delay and then everything catches up.
But yeah, it was probably down to the motorways.
Surely no route is safe?
You probably would have thought in the past, the likes of the 79 & 126 were protected because of their 'iconic' status.
They got split!
Maybe it is time to 'bite the bullet' on the 11?
Quote from: MW on September 28, 2018, 08:48:21 PM
The M40/M42 were screwed today. Everything South of Solihull running very late. I was approx 40 mins late at one point. As I used to drive the 11, I'd imagine Bromford was where the hold up was.
As for drop backs, they have drop backs at Acocks Green & Perry Barr, and there was usually time at Bearwood too.
If a bus is running very late and the driver is due to come off at Acocks Green, they often send out duplicates from Acocks Green or adjust the duplicate wherever it should be. You always have that initial delay and then everything catches up.
But yeah, it was probably down to the motorways.
Something to do with a Lorry explosion and 3 hgv collided sadly one of the drivers died thoughts are with there family and friends
11C - still can't run on time even on a Sunday
Quote from: 2206 on September 28, 2018, 05:19:11 PM
Atrotious level of service on the 11 this afternoon.
Crowds of passengers were waiting at every single stop on the 11C route....
Can we just address this first.
EVERY SINGLE STOP?
Really? You saw every single stop?
Yes, traffic happens, we live in a city where if one thing goes wrong on the motorway the entire city grinds to a halt.
Can hardly blame NXWM for an "atrocious level of service" on a route that will have to cross every single major artery in such conditions
Quote from: Westy on September 28, 2018, 09:42:42 PM
Surely no route is safe?
You probably would have thought in the past, the likes of the 79 & 126 were protected because of their 'iconic' status.
They got split!
Maybe it is time to 'bite the bullet' on the 11?
Eventually something will have to be done, yes, I'd hasten to agree that the 11 could be split, and I look forward to the angry mob that builds up when that inevitably does happen. Much the same with the Inner Circle (obviously a bit less fragile being a shorter route)
On the other hand, though, if they're willing to throw money away at the Sprint idea then surely somewhere there's money for proper bus priority measures on routes like the 11?
Quote from: Kevin on October 01, 2018, 09:17:43 AM
Can we just address this first.
EVERY SINGLE STOP?
Really? You saw every single stop?
Yes, traffic happens, we live in a city where if one thing goes wrong on the motorway the entire city grinds to a halt.
Can hardly blame NXWM for an "atrocious level of service" on a route that will have to cross every single major artery in such conditions
Eventually something will have to be done, yes, I'd hasten to agree that the 11 could be split, and I look forward to the angry mob that builds up when that inevitably does happen. Much the same with the Inner Circle (obviously a bit less fragile being a shorter route)
On the other hand, though, if they're willing to throw money away at the Sprint idea then surely somewhere there's money for proper bus priority measures on routes like the 11?
The problem would be where would you split the 11? City road to cotteridge surely would have to remain with a through link
Quote from: Kevin on October 01, 2018, 09:17:43 AM
Can we just address this first.
EVERY SINGLE STOP?
Really? You saw every single stop?
Yes, traffic happens, we live in a city where if one thing goes wrong on the motorway the entire city grinds to a halt.
Can hardly blame NXWM for an "atrocious level of service" on a route that will have to cross every single major artery in such conditions
Eventually something will have to be done, yes, I'd hasten to agree that the 11 could be split, and I look forward to the angry mob that builds up when that inevitably does happen. Much the same with the Inner Circle (obviously a bit less fragile being a shorter route)
On the other hand, though, if they're willing to throw money away at the Sprint idea then surely somewhere there's money for proper bus priority measures on routes like the 11?
Every single stop between Ward End (Old Bromford Lane) and the Swan (Yardley) as they're the stops I travelled between, so yes.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 01, 2018, 09:23:43 AM
The problem would be where would you split the 11? City road to cotteridge surely would have to remain with a through link
That'd be the problem, in my opinion.
If it was to be split, whatever way it happens, there's always going to be lots of people affected and disrupted by it?
What about splitting it at Acocks Green and Perry Barr?
If splitting wasn't possible what about reducing the frequency slightly and then operating more local 11E's ontop to improve reliability?
Quote from: 2206 on October 01, 2018, 12:10:15 PM
Every single stop between Ward End (Old Bromford Lane) and the Swan (Yardley) as they're the stops I travelled between, so yes.
Well thats not what you said. You said 'Crowds of passengers were waiting at every single stop on the 11C route.... '
Quote from: Dom on October 01, 2018, 01:07:57 PM
Well thats not what you said. You said 'Crowds of passengers were waiting at every single stop on the 11C route.... '
Its what I meant to say.
1824/1821/1829/1810 are all travelling together on the 8A
(just seen in Five Ways)
Seen an x10 to Portland road and a x10 to bear wood today. Halesowen road roadworks causing havoc
The service 40 in the early mornings is always late this is 6:36 from friar park. Bus has been between 2 - 10 minutes late each morning. At half past 6 in the morning surely there is very little traffic to warrent delays to service.
Unless problem is at garage could not go out on time for first leg from west bromwich to wednesbury
3 7s leaving the City Centre, one of which a 7E to College Road, Crossways.
Quote from: Ginger66 on October 02, 2018, 06:27:29 AM
The service 40 in the early mornings is always late this is 6:36 from friar park. Bus has been between 2 - 10 minutes late each morning. At half past 6 in the morning surely there is very little traffic to warrent delays to service.
Unless problem is at garage could not go out on time for first leg from west bromwich to wednesbury
To be fair, that happens also on the 11a's around 7am from Walsall, that come from depot!
A group of NX inspectors seemed to be monitoring services along Lode Lane in Solihull this afternoon, i've Never personally seen that many there before - stood next to 4731 on a 72 at 15:50.
2 5's also arrived in Solihull in Convey at that time - 4278 and another.
The 1 & 1A (AG) running very late due to roadworks at the Pershore Rd junction. 4288 was 27 minutes late this morning on the 12.33 ex Five Ways and 4527 arrived 60 minutes late at 15.30....
Plenty of Hagley Road services running late today. Saw 4427 parked up on the Hagley Road waiting for AVL instructions I presume, so too was 6102 parked by Quinton. Seen 2 x10s in convoy tonight one pair heading inbound the other pair outbound
One X21 leaving outbound along Bath Row with another 2 in convoy in inbound.
Also 2 X22s in convoy along the Edgebaston Park Road inbound.
Quote from: MasterPlan on October 14, 2018, 03:51:28 PM
One X21 leaving outbound along Bath Row with another 2 in convoy in inbound.
Also 2 X22s in convoy along the Edgebaston Park Road inbound.
Maybe due to the Half Marathon.
There are lots of road closures due to the marathon in the City Centre today, with the majority of central roads all closed of.
There was lots of congestion on the road - The Washwood Heath Road services (55's and 94's)were running late and bunching earlier, with Dartmouth Middleway looking congested.
3 x22s due at Bartley green terminus within 10 mins of each other
1 left NIS, 6840 and a branded one running in convoy to Birmingham. Some very angry people who have been waiting an hour. Bit of a disgrace of a service. At least get buses from Bartley green to QE!
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 15, 2018, 11:03:11 AM
3 x22s due at Bartley green terminus within 10 mins of each other
1 left NIS, 6840 and a branded one running in convoy to Birmingham. Some very angry people who have been waiting an hour. Bit of a disgrace of a service. At least get buses from Bartley green to QE!
Must be that pesky marathon again I guess...
I've just got off the 61 which is running 87 minutes late!
I didn't think anything could get worse than the X64 but these X20s are a shambles, plain and simple. Reliability? Liability more like. 3 X21s and 3X22s in around the City together again along with an X20 too.
Quote from: MasterPlan on October 15, 2018, 05:53:22 PM
I didn't think anything could get worse than the X64 but these X20s are a shambles, plain and simple. Reliability? Liability more like. 3 X21s and 3X22s in around the City together again along with an X20 too.
It's a stupid service. I can see that corridor having a major review sooner rather than later. People are having to wait an hour for a bus. The 22 was never as unreliable as the x22 currently is.
The Harborne services were broken up due to them being unreliable and difficult to adjust / regulate. If buses were turned short or run NIS, this would create large gaps in service at the outlying areas they each served. All that's happened now is that the problem has been shifted to the QE corridor (I'm currently sat on 6872 as it waits time at the Lordswood Rd stop due to running early).
At least those buses are tracking! Most X20s don't tend to have live times on the app anymore. Though I suppose it's hard to track buses from the Bermuda Triangle.
Didn't see this, next bus after isn't for 43 mins!
Quote from: MasterPlan on October 15, 2018, 06:25:12 PM
At least those buses are tracking! Most X20s don't tend to have live times on the app anymore. Though I suppose it's hard to track buses from the Bermuda Triangle.
Haha that made me chuckle. The best thing is they have cleaners waiting to clean the buses by the bus mall, not a lot of chance you will see a x20/x21/x22 have time for a clean!!
The thing is, they know the traffic is a problem, always had been, so why not timetable services to cope?
Quote from: Kevin on October 16, 2018, 07:20:49 AM
The thing is, they know the traffic is a problem, always had been, so why not timetable services to cope?
Network reviews ussally start at the start of summer holidays when everything looks like it working. When schools/college starts everything's a disaster. Probably take an other 12 months to get it right. BC have saved 8 buses with the network review 2124-2133 to Walsall only 2 trident 44xx replacement. The routes probably wernt given enough running time and the drop in frequency with buses been long delayed and big gaps in service.
Quote from: PB2938 on October 16, 2018, 09:20:17 AM
Network reviews ussally start at the start of summer holidays when everything looks like it working. When schools/college starts everything's a disaster. Probably take an other 12 months to get it right. BC have saved 8 buses with the network review 2124-2133 to Walsall only 2 trident 44xx replacement. The routes probably wernt given enough running time and the drop in frequency with buses been long delayed and big gaps service.
The network review didn't save 8 buses. Their paint float dropped from 4 to 1 because their E400 were finished. The reserve fleet in use there changed as well
3 X51s in quick succession through Scott Arms northbound
at 12:00, 6730 was displaying "not in service" but for whatever reason changed to "X51 Walsall" while at the lights, seemed a tad unnecessary with two others but hey ho
11 & 11a totally #####!
Nothing at Parkway from 1710 to roughly 1730.
Single decker turns up rammed & goes past!
Gets an Igo to the Bus Station, in the hope of connecting to a Darlaston bus to no avail.
11e to Wednesbury only turns up, which was no use.
Finally 1750 turns up around 1750(!), which Im sat on at the moment!
4 9s in convoy
Quote from: Westy on October 23, 2018, 06:13:21 PM
11 & 11a totally #####!
Nothing at Parkway from 1710 to roughly 1730.
Single decker turns up rammed & goes past!
Gets an Igo to the Bus Station, in the hope of connecting to a Darlaston bus to no avail.
11e to Wednesbury only turns up, which was no use.
Finally 1750 turns up around 1750(!), which Im sat on at the moment!
my x10 was on time with happy passengers just saying
So earlier today in Bartley Green. Somebody got hit by a car in Adams hill leading the road to be closed. The short term diversion route was full of traffic meaning that the 23 was running 10-20 mins late meaning that three were running along in a convoy.
Today the scheduled 14:44 Journey to Birmingham (6879) is now 23 minutes late on Adams hill. It's also a short working to Five ways. It's also on a short diversion continuing up Cromwell lane before turning into Moors Lane and then turning right again to Genners lane to start it's journey. I think it's the Harborne lane works that are contributing to the delays.
3304 on 9E Portland road
2 x10s In convoy towards merry hill
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 26, 2018, 04:51:16 PM
3304 on 9E Portland road
2 x10s In convoy towards merry hill
Spotted the X10s as well at Quinton stag. One to Merry Hill followed by another to Gornal Wood
Last two journeys on the full 28 were no shows
19:40 from Scott Arms and the one behind that terminates there and heads back to garage
Does the rule of "last bus has to run" apply here? Because obviously the 28 still runs but not full route
4300 running over 20 late on the 1, and the driver seems in no hurry to make any of that up waiting longer after a passenger gets off before thinking about closing the door
Aware that the Cricket Ground has a fireworks display, but still, doesn't excuse the slow use of doors making him even later. Boarded 21 late in Acocks Green and alighted 32 late in Edgbaston with no traffic en route
I think I've achieved my own 'personal best' this morning - one hour (yes ONE HOUR) from Harborne Northfield Road to Harborne Academy on 6869. It's a good job my employer is flexible with working hours. I could have walked to work quicker.
Bus was 56 mins late at the point I got off.
Noticed a few 23&24 running short this morning at least 2 had five ways coming out of city and another said harborne. Plus another not in service.
The x22s are very bad tonight, although it seems I made a good choice in getting off at bottom of metvhley lane and getting the 11, as the 19 is running 10 down and I presume
Left QE on time and same with the 48. Harborne high street must be bad
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 06, 2018, 06:39:53 PM
The x22s are very bad tonight, although it seems I made a good choice in getting off at bottom of metvhley lane and getting the 11, as the 19 is running 10 down and I presume
Left QE on time and same with the 48. Harborne high street must be bad
There are major roadworks, single file traffic and temporary lights on Harborne High Street this evening. Capped off a thoroughly sh*t day's commuting for me. Just got off 6836 which is 24 mins late, the 24 in front was adjusted to Four Dwellings mid-journey.
They must have to pay some serious overtime on the Harborne and QE rotas.
WA 41 all over the place this afternoon with them running in twos then 1 minute later another one comes
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on November 06, 2018, 07:27:58 PM
WA 41 all over the place this afternoon with them running in twos then 1 minute later another one comes
What time & where was this? I cannot see three together
Quote from: Tony on November 06, 2018, 08:01:34 PM
What time & where was this? I cannot see three together
Just after 15:00 tiday
There are 5 buses on the 41, they arrived in Walsall at
4347 - 14:20
4348 - 14:42
2114 - 15:13
4125 - 15:30
1769 - 15:52
Quote from: Tony on November 06, 2018, 08:34:10 PM
There are 5 buses on the 41, they arrived in Walsall at
4347 - 14:20
4348 - 14:42
2114 - 15:13
4125 - 15:30
1769 - 15:52
4155 parked at stand M and 4125 parked in stand N then 4155 went to a layover behind the back of McDonald's still displaying 41
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on November 06, 2018, 09:06:52 PM
4155 parked at stand M and 4125 parked in stand N then 4155 went to a layover behind the back of McDonald's still displaying 41
4125 operated the 15:30 departure
4155 came from garage and operated the 15:50 departure. No 3 buses in a minute you claimed and no very late running
27s experiencing some trouble.
The 15:10 48 from bearwood towards northfield hasn't shown up as of 15:25. Showed up as being on time on the tracker then disappeared
@Tony Looks like a lot of overtime to be paid tonight on the x20,x21,x22. Radio message came out whilst onboard 4879 but unable to listen to what it said.
Hagley road was bad this evening. X10s running in convoy
The 23 timetable is in a shambles. Literally 3 buses on each side with mixed amounts of passengers.
Quote from: mesub on November 10, 2018, 09:41:24 PM
The 23 timetable is in a shambles. Literally 3 buses on each side with mixed amounts of passengers.
I don't know if you noticed but the traffic in Harborne is nightmare. It was like that today when 3 24s turned up to New Street
Quote from: Sayeed on November 10, 2018, 10:00:01 PM
I don't know if you noticed but the traffic in Harborne is nightmare. It was like that today when 3 24s turned up to New Street
Anyone know how long those roadworks are there for?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 11, 2018, 09:29:34 AM
Anyone know how long those roadworks are there for?
According to BCC website, works started on 8th October and were expected to last for four weeks:
https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/info/50082/transport_improvement_schemes/1801/harborne_road_bus_lane/2
Must be nearly done then, or the schedule is over-running.
Quote from: Stu on November 11, 2018, 10:27:56 AM
According to BCC website, works started on 8th October and were expected to last for four weeks:
https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/info/50082/transport_improvement_schemes/1801/harborne_road_bus_lane/2
Must be nearly done then, or the schedule is over-running.
It's the roadworks on Harborne High Street that are causing the massive problems at the moment, rather than the bus lane works. There are temporary lights at the junction with Bull Street and they've been there since Wednesday - looks like some sort of emergency repair work to one of the utilities. It's causing chaos.
Quote from: Mike K on November 11, 2018, 11:28:10 AM
It's the roadworks on Harborne High Street that are causing the massive problems at the moment, rather than the bus lane works. There are temporary lights at the junction with Bull Street and they've been there since Wednesday - looks like some sort of emergency repair work to one of the utilities. It's causing chaos.
It really is causing chaos. There's also a temporary stop, replacing the high street stop.
2 x22s heading out to woodgate in convoy
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 13, 2018, 10:36:10 AM
2 x22s heading out to woodgate in convoy
Due to roadworks in harborne
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on November 13, 2018, 04:12:23 PM
Due to roadworks in harborne
The X22 doesn't serve Harborne.
And the roadworks finished yesterday.
Quote from: Mike K on November 13, 2018, 06:02:33 PM
The X22 doesn't serve Harborne.
And the roadworks finished yesterday.
The university services tonight are awful!
There appears to be some low loaders blocking the bus lane and one lane on the Aldridge Road in Perry Barr heading toward Birmingham. I suspect they're unloading items involved in the demolition of the BCU, but it's causing traffic to back up quite a bit to the Kingstanding Road meaning buses are being affected. I got off 6745 on a 936 at around 08:00 at Aston University which the ticket machine was showing as 24 minutes late..
3 ☓22s coming into City within about 5 mins. 2 of which along Bath Row just now.
A 4th one approaching St James Road inbound also...
Quote from: MasterPlan on November 19, 2018, 05:05:40 PM
3 ☓22s coming into City within about 5 mins. 2 of which along Bath Row just now.
A 4th one approaching St James Road inbound also...
My x22 outbound was only 5 minutes late! Makes a change
5 YW route 6's running in line along Blossomfield Road at 11,40 this morning. All E200's.
Anyone heard about issues with the 529 towards Walsall?
According to a tweet by a workmate to Nx this evening, his bus from Willenhall was terminated at Junction 10!
The 48s weren't doing great tonight. Queuing to join harborne high street and then traffic on harborne high street at the top, then crawling all up to bearwood.
3 9s together including 3304 on 9E to Quinton church
The 6:59 ☓21 was a no show again from the Square. Thankfully the next bus to turn up was an e400 as it was already 3/4 full upon arrival. Still won't prevent me from being late again though.
EDiT: Just as I wrote this another one goes flying past us. Absolute joke.
Crap service tonight again. X22 shown on tracker as 4 mins then disappears
18:10 19 from QE dissapeared. How the hell that doesn't turn up I don't know.
Oh and the 11s are fuck*d
Board Wa 1106 was 33 mins late by the time it got to Walsall, at which point there was 3 vehicles for the routes, one on stand, the one I arrived on & another one behind.
As for waiting passengers, the stop was heaving & even 2 Plod had arrived too!
Quote from: Westy on November 22, 2018, 06:41:07 PM
Board Wa 1106 was 33 mins late by the time it got to Walsall, at which point there was 3 vehicles for the routes, one on stand, the one I arrived on & another one behind.
As for waiting passengers, the stop was heaving & even 2 Plod had arrived too!
Something must have happened in Walsall the 4Hs are running up to an hour late
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 22, 2018, 07:03:16 PM
Something must have happened in Walsall the 4Hs are running up to an hour late
Nothing happened in Walsall and the 4H's are not up to an hour late. 39 minutes is the latest any have arrived in Halesowen
Quote from: Tony on November 22, 2018, 07:09:50 PM
Nothing happened in Walsall and the 4H's are not up to an hour late. 39 minutes is the latest any have arrived in Halesowen
@Tony diamonds are running an hour late due to their differences in running times with nx at peaks. Also can you inform me what happened to the 18:10 19 I posted about?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 22, 2018, 07:27:00 PM
Also can you inform me what happened to the 18:10 19 I posted about?
This isn't a public service that you can demand answers. Why don't you contact NX customer service if you have a complaint or problem.
The WA services from Birmingham seemed to be all over the place yesterday...Apparently the lights at Lancaster Circus got stuck on red for a second time this week and there was an incident on Ablewell Street heading out of Walsall which meant buses had to be diverted via the Walsall Aboretum and back to Six Ways via Sutton Road. I also heard there was an accident on the Walsall Road although I'm not 100% sure about that. But it caused buses to come in between 20-60 minutes late...
Just seen 4 number 4A's towards gospel oak from digbeth Coach Station 1 Gemini and 3 E200MMC's.
All buses entering city from east side are running over an hour late around priory Queensway some buses have been diverted but the 55,94,66,14,X12,X70 are running in groups of 3s any reason why X70 and X12 are coming in that way even tho there is heavy traffic all day today and the know that but go out Aston expressway can't the come in that way
Quote from: Hammad on November 24, 2018, 05:00:06 PM
All buses entering city from east side are running over an hour late around priory Queensway some buses have been diverted but the 55,94,66,14,X12,X70 are running in groups of 3s any reason why X70 and X12 are coming in that way even tho there is heavy traffic all day today and the know that but go out Aston expressway can't the come in that way
Probably not worth the diversion as traffic extremely slow and heavy all day on most routes north and east of the city centre, as far as I could see. It would be easier to have a thread if anyone had anything 'on time' to report today!
Quote from: Smethwickian on November 24, 2018, 06:47:57 PM
Probably not worth the diversion as traffic extremely slow and heavy all day on most routes north and east of the city centre, as far as I could see. It would be easier to have a thread if anyone had anything 'on time' to report today!
the only services I presume that were on time are outer city services apart from the 11
The 12 (WB Omnilink) I caught into city earlier arrived at Colmore Row (about 19:40) showing 'Late 50' on the screen. I had aimed to catch the 18:38 departure from Warley Road, this one turned up just after 19:10, and we were swiftly overtaken by a PN E400. Didn't see any evidence of any traffic congestion along Hagley Road / Five Ways, so pretty poor for a Sunday. Or is the interworking with the 13 not working out?
Doesn't seem that the 72 route is working too well this morning. Have now been waiting over 20 mins in the rush hour and 3 buses have failed to materialise. It's about time NX pulled their finger out. RK manage to run on time, as do school services on the same route - the bs excuse of traffic is just a cop out.
Bus has now finally arrived - after 33 minutes of waiting. Can anyone tell me where i can go to complain about this in person as a free daysaver won't cut it. I'm assuming Acocks Green garage or maybe Summer Lane?
Acocks green run the service ; Summer lane is nothing to do with the bus company anymore. I suspect it's all electronic via forms on there website. Not sure what complaining in person will achieve in this modern age.
Quote from: monkeyjoe on November 27, 2018, 03:26:30 PM
Acocks green run the service
Acocks Green garage run the service, but I've been in the garage before and I can't think of where you'd go to complain - it seems to be just where they store and maintain vehicles and there's a lost property room (public enquirees office, is what its called) there.
The only place I could think of where you may be able to complain, is maybe at the Head Office at BY Garage , since thats where the complaints are handled (e.g. if you were to complain in writing, thats where you'd adress it to).
Quote from: monkeyjoe on November 27, 2018, 03:26:30 PM
Acocks green run the service ; Summer lane is nothing to do with the bus company anymore. I suspect it's all electronic via forms on there website. Not sure what complaining in person will achieve in this modern age.
Thanks for the reply. I wasn't sure re: Summer Lane i must admit. I take your point about complaining in person - i suppose it's not really worth the effort nowadays.
Quote from: 2206 on November 27, 2018, 03:30:56 PM
Acocks Green garage run the service, but I've been in the garage before and I can't think of where you'd go to complain - it seems to be just where they store and maintain vehicles and there's a lost property room (public enquirees office, is what its called) there.
The only place I could think of where you may be able to complain, is maybe at the Head Office at BY Garage , since thats where the complaints are handled (e.g. if you were to complain in writing, thats where you'd adress it to).
Thanks for that
@2206. I used to work with one of the senior managers at BY about 10 years ago. I shall contact him to see what he thinks.
Quote from: WMT3000 on November 27, 2018, 08:25:02 AM
Doesn't seem that the 72 route is working too well this morning. Have now been waiting over 20 mins in the rush hour and 3 buses have failed to materialise. It's about time NX pulled their finger out. RK manage to run on time, as do school services on the same route - the bs excuse of traffic is just a cop out.
Bus has now finally arrived - after 33 minutes of waiting. Can anyone tell me where i can go to complain about this in person as a free daysaver won't cut it. I'm assuming Acocks Green garage or maybe Summer Lane?
This is a regular occurance on the X20/X21/X22 mate. I'd love to know where some of these buses vanish to.
Quote from: MasterPlan on November 27, 2018, 05:20:28 PM
This is a regular occurance on the X20/X21/X22 mate. I'd love to know where some of these buses vanish to.
Same here. Just seen a x22 to California followed by an x22 to woodgate. That service is broke. About 15:30 needed to get from city centre to selly oak. Ended up catching the 63 which I expected to be chocka, but no we zoomed along. Checked the app and the x20,x21 has obviously got stuck somewhere.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 27, 2018, 05:52:00 PM
Same here. Just seen a x22 to California followed by an x22 to woodgate. That service is broke. About 15:30 needed to get from city centre to selly oak. Ended up catching the 63 which I expected to be chocka, but no we zoomed along. Checked the app and the x20,x21 has obviously got stuck somewhere.
On my way out of the City Centre and along Bath Row i saw 3 X21s going the other way. And plenty of X22s about.
On a side note though, a record 5 MMCs on the X21 today (from what I saw), including 4 branded ones. Maybe a couple of X20s didn't run lol
Quote from: MasterPlan on November 27, 2018, 06:12:37 PM
On my way out of the City Centre and along Bath Row i saw 3 X21s going the other way. And plenty of X22s about.
On a side note though, a record 5 MMCs on the X21 today (from what I saw), including 4 branded ones. Maybe a couple of X20s didn't run lol
The x22 has a 494* on it
A trident and a e400 was just in convoy towards brum on park field drive
2 X70 running in covoy one was 6837 and the others was 4947 6837 ticket machine wasn't working so passengers got a free ride
All the Newtown Row routes are in chaos due to traffic backing up to the inner ring road
December Saturday traffic in earnest. That bad they're legit using the contraflow system on the Aston Expressway.
Good luck to anyone using a bus that serves the city centre today
Quote from: Kevin on December 01, 2018, 02:59:31 PM
December Saturday traffic in earnest. That bad they're legit using the contraflow system on the Aston Expressway.
Good luck to anyone using a bus that serves the city centre today
X10s running in convoys. Seen a x10 to five ways.
6884 Working on X20 which is 27 Minutes late.
Quote from: mesub on December 01, 2018, 04:15:10 PM
6884 Working on X20 which is 27 Minutes late.
☓22s seem to be suffering even more than usual today.
3 X14s together at one point today I heard.
3 X5s at Roughley together this afternoon. I was 20 down 16.31 from Roughley, running with the one in front and the one behind. All 3 of us handed over to next drivers in City together and all went out as X3s
Plenty of others running in 2s and 3s
Quote from: Kevin on December 01, 2018, 02:59:31 PM
December Saturday traffic in earnest. That bad they're legit using the contraflow system on the Aston Expressway.
Good luck to anyone using a bus that serves the city centre today
whats a contraflow system
Quote from: Hammad on December 01, 2018, 11:57:48 PM
whats a contraflow system
Middle lane gets used to widen carriageway to 4 lanes in the busy direction, and narrows to 2 the other way
Quote from: Kevin on December 02, 2018, 09:38:17 AM
Middle lane gets used to widen carriageway to 4 lanes in the busy direction, and narrows to 2 the other way
oh thanks
529 I was on from Willenhall got turned at Bentley, so everyone piled onto the bus behind!(6764)
481* and 4829 were running in convoy earlier on the 7.
3 29s in a convey to Walsall
2119 what I just got off
UID mark 1 B7RLE and
1893
1851 running late on the 952 because the destination display has messed up and the driver spent 10 minutes trying to fix it (failed). Just displaying 'National Express West Midlands' on the front.
2 27s to Maypole in convoy in Stirchley. Not long behind another 27E to Yardley Wood...
1897,1851,1846,2117 all in a convey down proffit street on the 29
Wait 15 minutes for the 28 and surprise surprise, four come at once...
Crap service...
This routes needs fixing, pretty much broke.
Quote from: Jack on December 21, 2018, 02:34:01 PM
Wait 15 minutes for the 28 and surprise surprise, four come at once...
Crap service...
This routes needs fixing, pretty much broke.
Its probably very similar to the 11, in that, it crosses many arterial roads (main roads and busy areas) so easily become late with large gaps in service.
I noticed lots of 20 - 40 minute gaps and rammed buses (rammed full of passengers, with no more room for any waiting passengers) in groups of 4 on the 11 today, even the DTS that turned up was rammed with no more room for waiting passengers, at Yardley Swan.
Quote from: Jack on December 21, 2018, 02:34:01 PM
Wait 15 minutes for the 28 and surprise surprise, four come at once...
Crap service...
This routes needs fixing, pretty much broke.
At this time of year everything's crapper than usual.
Quote from: Jack on December 21, 2018, 02:34:01 PM
Wait 15 minutes for the 28 and surprise surprise, four come at once...
Crap service...
This routes needs fixing, pretty much broke.
Have you not seen the traffic all afternoon? Everywhere is chocka and has been from about midday. I come off X4 75 minutes late just with the one in front 95 mins down
Quote from: Jack on December 21, 2018, 02:34:01 PM
Wait 15 minutes for the 28 and surprise surprise, four come at once...
Crap service...
This routes needs fixing, pretty much broke.
I look forward to hearing your constructive comments and suggestions on how this service can be improved. ;D
Quote from: John on December 21, 2018, 04:51:59 PM
Have you not seen the traffic all afternoon? Everywhere is chocka and has been from about midday. I come off X4 75 minutes late just with the one in front 95 mins down
Same today on the 11, I think.
6140 was 55 minutes late earlier today, SK51AYC must have been about 45 minutes late at about 14:30 on the 11C.
Had to wait 40 minutes for a 5 in Solihull earlier, awful on these cold conditions.
Quote from: Jack on January 05, 2019, 06:14:01 PM
Had to wait 40 minutes for a 5 in Solihull earlier, awful on these cold conditions.
Other bus routes from Solihull are available for you
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 05, 2019, 07:00:39 PM
Other bus routes from Solihull are available for you
There are other buses to some of the placess it goees to, yes. If he was going to Birmingham there is the X2 (which is a lot faster than the 5) and for Shirley/Sparkbrook/Sparkhill there's the 6, for Sarehole Mill you can get the 6 and then get the 11 down the road (or walk it).
But how do you know where he was going, that depends on whether he is going to any of those places, how do you know he wasn't going to Monkspath or somewhere like that, I can't think of any other bus route that goes there from Solihull?
Quote from: Jack on December 21, 2018, 02:34:01 PM
Wait 15 minutes for the 28 and surprise surprise, four come at once...
Crap service...
This routes needs fixing, pretty much broke.
if you have seen the r/bs, you'll understand. They've taken a bus off, why I don't know. It's like the 94 and 55, they've done it to them.
A big gap in service on the 97 this morning - the only route in the west midlands with a lower PVR in the rush hour than at midday 🙄
Three 6s heading Dudley-bound, just passed Russells Hall Hospital together.
A Streetdeck, a Trident, and a B7.. (Sounds like the start of a bar joke 😂)
edit: just passed 4441 on a 6E for the RHH
3 Pershore Road vehicles stopped at High Street without drivers, blocking the turn from Carrs Lane. Genius...
Any services using Smallbrook Queensway & Holloway Circus will be ridiculously late now. Apparently someone was blocking it up and now it's choc a block.
Quote from: MasterPlan on January 26, 2019, 02:30:20 PM
Any services using Smallbrook Queensway & Holloway Circus will be ridiculously late now. Apparently someone was blocking it up and now it's choc a block.
get. Tow truck tow the car away
2 X21s arrived at Weoley Castle Square at the same time this morning. How is it even possible for the other one to be 15 mins late already.
4 11Cs in convoy one was a 11E to kings head bearwood
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 28, 2019, 02:08:10 PM
4 11Cs in convoy one was a 11E to kings head bearwood
That's a usual regular occurrence for that route.
The 952's were in pairs this morning, 1892? And 1839 following each other to the City at 8:05.
Quote from: MasterPlan on January 26, 2019, 02:30:20 PM
Any services using Smallbrook Queensway & Holloway Circus will be ridiculously late now. Apparently someone was blocking it up and now it's choc a block.
it you tube star james charles make up star 19 years old in bull ring
Any reason why the 11A was so bad this morning. Numerous buses running NIS past bearwood, before an 11E Harborne arrived
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 31, 2019, 07:17:34 PM
Any reason why the 11A was so bad this morning. Numerous buses running NIS past bearwood, before an 11E Harborne arrived
Traffic probably?
11's are always like that to be honest, I regularly end up waiting ages for them. A hold up on one side of the 11 can easily cause delays on the other side of the city on that route. There's a timetabled 11E to Harborne in the morning, so it could be that one you saw, it doesn't mean that its terminating short. Paticularly at peak times, but the traffic is hardly NX's fault.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 31, 2019, 07:17:34 PM
Any reason why the 11A was so bad this morning. Numerous buses running NIS past bearwood, before an 11E Harborne arrived
Quote from: 2206 on January 31, 2019, 07:25:13 PM
Traffic probably?
11's are always like that to be honest, I regularly end up waiting ages for them. A hold up on one side of the 11 can easily cause delays on the other side of the city on that route. There's a timetabled 11E to Harborne in the morning, so it could be that one you saw, it doesn't mean that its terminating short. Paticularly at peak times, but the traffic is hardly NX's fault.
Some people just don't realise what a long (26 mile) route the 11A/C is. Some time ago, I was waiting at a stop near Acocks Green/South Yardley, and someone was complaining about waiting ages for an 11, they thought I was taking the piss when I said it was because of some roadworks in Handsworth (at the time), "but that's miles away!" was their response.
Quote from: Stu on January 31, 2019, 08:27:28 PM
Some people just don't realise what a long (26 mile) route the 11A/C is. Some time ago, I was waiting at a stop near Acocks Green/South Yardley, and someone was complaining about waiting ages for an 11, they thought I was taking the piss when I said it was because of some roadworks in Handsworth (at the time), "but that's miles away!" was their response.
Whilst a small number of people may make longer journyeys using that route.
The majority of those who use this route do however, only tend to make relatively short local journeys. Which is probably why people in Acocks Green or Yardley may not be aware the 11 goes to Handsworth, etc.
I overheard a passenger come down from the top deck of 6126 earlier when the driver was announcing that it was going to be diverted asking if it's going to the Hagley Rd, Bearwood. Bearwood is approximately half way round from Stechford, so a 90 minute peak time trip. He'd probably have got there quicker catching the X1/X2 and 9/X8/X10.
I think the problem was/is somewhere around Stechford. My 55 home from town around 7.30am yesterday was 16 late. This morning the inspector at the stop was talking to the driver about it and mentioned that all 55s yesterday morning were runnning about 10 minutes late.
Looks like the 16 might be having a bad day, just had a 15 minute wait on Priory Queensway for 4805 to show up with a 16E to Church Lane.
There was another 16 branded E400 which carried on along Moor Street Queensway, running back to garage, presumably. There's some bunching of services in the City; a Gemini and an Enviro just arrived on Old Square, just as 4805 & 4692 (which I'm on now) leaves town.
I'd say it's a bad day for the X22 but it's just another normal day really. 2 X22s turned up at Priory Queensway, one of which went out of service and done one, not long after another X22 had been and gone. Also 2 X21s together at Priory Queensway - shortly followed by a 3rd.
51,952 and X51 were a mess this morning. Perry Barr flyover enternace was blocked so services were having to use the Wellhead Lane slip road. I left walsall on time on my 51, got to Scott arms on time, by the time I got to 6 ways, was 25 mins late.
Quote from: Dom on February 05, 2019, 10:34:48 AM
51,952 and X51 were a mess this morning. Perry Barr flyover enternace was blocked so services were having to use the Wellhead Lane slip road. I left walsall on time on my 51, got to Scott arms on time, by the time I got to 6 ways, was 25 mins late.
It was a car that broke down on there
Quote from: Dom on February 05, 2019, 10:34:48 AM
51,952 and X51 were a mess this morning. Perry Barr flyover enternace was blocked so services were having to use the Wellhead Lane slip road. I left walsall on time on my 51, got to Scott arms on time, by the time I got to 6 ways, was 25 mins late.
Inspecting I presume?
07:59 X2 from Yardley Swan to Solihull Station which was 6890 turned up 14 minutes late this morning at the Swan and the ticket machine stated 24 minutes late once it got into Solihull Town Centre just before 09:00. It terminated short of its final destination in the Town Centre and the 08:21 from Swan which was 6830 followed in just behind it.
Not very good that the driver didn't change the destination display and consequently the announcements to inform passengers of the decision and started the return journey to Birmingham without informing passengers.
Full to capacity, it left half of the passengers waiting for it at the Swan behind and it drove past at least 20 passengers waiting for it along Old Lode Ln and a few more at Brays Rd (the 07:54 must have drove past these passengers as well due to being full to capacity).
Quote from: Tony on February 05, 2019, 01:04:24 PM
What are you on about?
His post sounds like a bus drivers post
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 05, 2019, 01:18:44 PM
His post sounds like a bus drivers post
That would be because he is a driver...
Edit:
@CL didn't see your post above, sorry!
Quote from: Tony on February 05, 2019, 10:39:32 AM
It was a car that broke down on there
Yeah I heard on the radio, thought I'd mentioned that haha!
Just seen an 11 and an 11A running together up to Dudley, with another a couple of minutes behind. Have the roadworks up near the Myvod area started yet?
Quote from: StourValley98 on February 05, 2019, 04:07:01 PM
Just seen an 11 and an 11A running together up to Dudley, with another a couple of minutes behind. Have the roadworks up near the Myvod area started yet?
Yes 11A been on diversion since Monday.
Quote from: Dom on February 05, 2019, 04:10:15 PM
Yes 11A been on diversion since Monday.
That plus peak traffic would explain it then. The 11 I caught home was 12 late too but that's nothing unusual.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 05, 2019, 01:18:44 PM
His post sounds like a bus drivers post
Looks like his ditched TfWM, must of realised the awful reality of them...
Quote from: Jack on February 05, 2019, 04:37:18 PM
Looks like his ditched TfWM, must of realised the awful reality of them...
Did he leave or was he sacked? Genuine question...
Quote from: V89MOA on February 05, 2019, 05:01:40 PM
Did he leave or was he sacked? Genuine question...
My question exactly, but is meant to be a driver at 19? :o
Quote from: Jack on February 05, 2019, 05:06:11 PM
My question exactly, but is meant to be a driver at 19? :o
Why are you both being so rude? asking other people instead of Dom himself, and what is wrong with being a bus driver at 19.
Incidently bus drivers' pay is more than a surveyor, and after 5 years rises to considerably more.
Quote from: Tony on February 05, 2019, 05:21:46 PM
Why are you both being so rude? asking other people instead of Dom himself, and what is wrong with being a bus driver at 19.
Incidently bus drivers' pay is more than a surveyor, and after 5 years rises to considerably more.
Nothing is wrong with bus driving at 19, but isn't the age to drive a bus and hold a PCV license 20 or 21?
Quote from: Jack on February 05, 2019, 05:22:57 PM
Nothing is wrong with bus driving at 19, but isn't the age to drive a bus and hold a PCV license 20 or 21?
no, 18
Quote from: Jack on February 05, 2019, 05:22:57 PM
Nothing is wrong with bus driving at 19, but isn't the age to drive a bus and hold a PCV license 20 or 21?
To me I find the age of 18 way too young. So he was learning to be a bus driver whilst being an inspector?
Quote from: Tony on February 05, 2019, 05:21:46 PM
Why are you both being so rude? asking other people instead of Dom himself,
Would love to, but he likes randomly blocking people on social media. I personally didn't think I was being rude, was merely curious is all, apologies.
Quote from: V89MOA on February 05, 2019, 05:42:55 PM
Would love to, but he likes randomly blocking people on social media. I personally didn't think I was being rude, was merely curious is all, apologies.
He's on here, you could have easily directed the question to Dom Himself, not asking others if he had been sacked.
Quote from: Tony on February 05, 2019, 06:02:40 PM
He's on here, you could have easily directed the question to Dom Himself, not asking others if he had been sacked.
Even if he was sacked, is it anyone's business unless he wants to share that? Perhaps he just wanted to be a driver or something, along with considering that it has better pay.
Quote from: V89MOA on February 05, 2019, 05:01:40 PM
Did he leave or was he sacked? Genuine question...
Left. Don't get why it matters though.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 05, 2019, 05:42:43 PM
To me I find the age of 18 way too young. So he was learning to be a bus driver whilst being an inspector?
Why do you feel it's too young? In my eyes it's the best age to do it, I passed my test 1st time with 1 driving fault. I believe that shows I can handle a bus.
Quote from: Dom on February 05, 2019, 06:43:13 PM
Why do you feel it's too young? In my eyes it's the best age to do it, I passed my test 1st time with 1 driving fault. I believe that shows I can handle a bus.
How long have you been driving a car for?
Quote from: Dom on February 05, 2019, 06:43:13 PM
Why do you feel it's too young? In my eyes it's the best age to do it, I passed my test 1st time with 1 driving fault. I believe that shows I can handle a bus.
I suspect that is because you are more grown up and intelligent than some others of similar age Dom
Quote from: Dom on February 05, 2019, 06:43:13 PM
Why do you feel it's too young? In my eyes it's the best age to do it, I passed my test 1st time with 1 driving fault. I believe that shows I can handle a bus.
Nice to hear - best of luck with NX!
Quote from: Tony on February 05, 2019, 06:45:39 PM
I suspect that is because you are more grown up and intelligent than some others of similar age Dom
Well your entitled to your own opinion Tony like I'm entitled to mine.
Quote from: Jack on February 05, 2019, 05:22:57 PM
Nothing is wrong with bus driving at 19, but isn't the age to drive a bus and hold a PCV license 20 or 21?
A number of years ago a local uniformed organisation group that I was involved with applied to their local community transport group for a 23 year old leader to have a licence to drive their 16 seater minibuses to take young people to weekend camps twice a year. His applicaton was turned down because he was under 25. We would have found it easier to understand and accept the decision had the leader not been driving double decker buses around Wolverhampton for 3 years!
My personal view is that drivers should have had a clean driving licence for at least 2 years before they can apply for a PCV or HGV licence. I think 18 is too young but there is no need to wait until somebody is 25 to be able to drive a minibus.
Quote from: fleetline6477 on February 05, 2019, 07:23:58 PM
A number of years ago a local uniformed organisation group that I was involved with applied to their local community transport group for a 23 year old leader to have a licence to drive their 16 seater minibuses to take young people to weekend camps twice a year. His applicaton was turned down because he was under 25. We would have found it easier to understand and accept the decision had the leader not been driving double decker buses around Wolverhampton for 3 years!
My personal view is that drivers should have had a clean driving licence for at least 2 years before they can apply for a PCV or HGV licence. I think 18 is too young but there is no need to wait until somebody is 25 to be able to drive a minibus.
The 25 thing will be the insurance company, not anything legal. Several bus companies won't take on 18-21 year olds for two reasons. The first is insurance the second is they are restricted to local bus work, you cannot do tachograph work at that age. When I started the age limit was 21 at WMPTE, so I had to wait until then, but I am sure Dom will confirm he will have learnt far more in the couple of weeks he was in the NX training school than he would have learned in two years getting into bad habits in a small car.
I started at NXWM when I was 19, back in 2015.
I also passed my test first time, but with one more minor than Dom lol (2).
Have all of you got a problem with me being a bus driver too?
Quote from: Tony on February 05, 2019, 07:28:38 PM
The 25 thing will be the insurance company, not anything legal. Several bus companies won't take on 18-21 year olds for two reasons. The first is insurance the second is they are restricted to local bus work, you cannot do tachograph work at that age. When I started the age limit was 21 at WMPTE, so I had to wait until then, but I am sure Dom will confirm he will have learnt far more in the couple of weeks he was in the NX training school than he would have learned in two years getting into bad habits in a small car.
Absolutely. The guys at the training school do a fantastic job, it's an intensive course but they know how to make a good driver and how to make sure drivers are fully equipped.
Quote from: Dom on February 05, 2019, 07:44:56 PM
Absolutely. The guys at the training school do a fantastic job, it's an intensive course but they know how to make a good driver and how to make sure drivers are fully equipped.
Although I don't post on here often, I felt I should, I'm now a top rate driver at BC at the age of 24, passed my test about a month after turning 19, (sept 13) and although I have my own personal opinions on the job itself, I think starting driving buses at that age has really helped my driving ability in general compared to other drivers of a higher age and more 'experience' who have only ever driven a car.
28 running punctually today. Makes a change...
Quote from: Dom on February 05, 2019, 06:43:13 PM
Why do you feel it's too young? In my eyes it's the best age to do it, I passed my test 1st time with 1 driving fault. I believe that shows I can handle a bus.
Been following this forum for a while now, thought I'd make the effort to make an account and reply to this..
Just remember, you get taught to pass a test, not to drive. You learn now, everyday for the rest of your driving career.
Overconfidence is the downfall of many, if you think you can do everything now, you'll come crashing straight back down to earth when you have your first collision or pax injury.
Listen to what drivers/management/trainers tell you, don't get overconfident and you'll be fine.
4 corridor running late due to roadworks outside Sandwell and Dudley station
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 15, 2019, 09:59:46 AM
4 corridor running late due to roadworks outside Sandwell and Dudley station
Actaually running late due to a burst water main at Bromford roundabout
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 15, 2019, 09:59:46 AM
4 corridor running late due to roadworks outside Sandwell and Dudley station
Looks to be caused by a burst water main in the construction area north of the roundabout - a little careless.... causing delays on all roundabout approaches - a specific hot spot shown on line at the entrance to the station - not sure why - presumably vehicles trying to get out into the queue blocking others!!
Must say AVL are usually extremely good at running buses on the 11A/11C back to time. Numerous times have I been greeted by a 11A turning left from the hagley road to Lordswood road. The 126 nowadays doesn't seem very reliable it seems as over the past week I've seen quite a few red mmcs running NIS
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 15, 2019, 09:23:20 PM
Must say AVL are usually extremely good at running buses on the 11A/11C back to time. Numerous times have I been greeted by a 11A turning left from the hagley road to Lordswood road. The 126 nowadays doesn't seem very reliable it seems as over the past week I've seen quite a few red mmcs running NIS
I'm pretty sure the Outer Circle isn't managed by AVL but by AG themselves.
1900 left Hassop Road running 5 minutes late on 952. Due off at 10:18. In return the driver is going quick.
I started aged 20 in 1997. I actually looked about 16 and lots of passengers used to say "Are you old enough to drive this bus?" It used to get on my nerves, but as the years rolled on I would wish they would still ask!
In 1997 there wasnt as many younger drivers as now, at BC there was still a lot of the 'old guard', plenty of drivers that had previously been at Selly Oak, Cotteridge and Quinton, some had been bus drivers since the late 50s and 60s.
A lot has to do with the maturity of the person and although Ive never met Dom, he comes across as being quite mature and level headed.
The training NX does now is thorough and has improved a lot since I started. Cpc courses refresh all drivers and try to eliminate bad habits.
Drive cam and traffilog also monitors bad driving and speed. In my early years I would drive like Lewis Hamilton running back dead to garage - not any more.
Quote from: Jack on February 18, 2019, 10:27:55 AM
1900 left Hassop Road running 5 minutes late on 952. Due off at 10:18. In return the driver is going quick.
Not exactly a very late running service then?
Quote from: Dom on February 18, 2019, 12:57:19 PM
Not exactly a very late running service then?
Valid, not exactly late when I boarded but it was late by the time I got off, but that's purely because it went via Dale End instead of St Chads.
Quote from: Jack on February 18, 2019, 01:34:54 PM
Valid, not exactly late when I boarded but it was late by the time I got off, but that's purely because it went via Dale End instead of St Chads.
That's because they're using the Dale End diversion. Drivers have no choice.
Buses getting stuck on bromford Lane it seems
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 21, 2019, 06:06:53 PM
Buses getting stuck on bromford Lane it seems
Has a lorry spilt a load of glue
3 ☓21s leaving City within the space of a few mins after a long wait, surprised they all still said Woodcock Hill. All of them seem to be affected though including the 61/63.
Quote from: MasterPlan on February 28, 2019, 05:31:30 PM
3 ☓21s leaving City within the space of a few mins after a long wait, surprised they all still said Woodcock Hill. All of them seem to be affected though including the 61/63.
2 x22s just arrived in convoy too
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 28, 2019, 06:01:35 PM
2 x22s just arrived in convoy too
2 vehicles is not a convoy
Quote from: Tony on February 28, 2019, 06:10:01 PM
2 vehicles is not a convoy
AVL must be busy. One x22 was 40 minutes late the other 17. None got adjusted. Driver of the 17 minutes late one was going to be RTA'd very soon he said. The 40 minute late one had a quick fag at terminus and has now gone back to Birmingham. Poor guy
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 28, 2019, 06:41:26 PM
AVL must be busy. One x22 was 40 minutes late the other 17. None got adjusted. Driver of the 17 minutes late one was going to be RTA'd very soon he said. The 40 minute late one had a quick fag at terminus and has now gone back to Birmingham. Poor guy
No X22 has been 40 minutes late, which bus are you referring to
Quote from: Tony on February 28, 2019, 06:52:09 PM
No X22 has been 40 minutes late, which bus are you referring to
The one that arrived at field lane at 18:25. It was the branded one followed by an unbranded one
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 28, 2019, 06:41:26 PM
AVL must be busy. One x22 was 40 minutes late the other 17. None got adjusted. Driver of the 17 minutes late one was going to be RTA'd very soon he said. The 40 minute late one had a quick fag at terminus and has now gone back to Birmingham. Poor guy
OK, so here is why your postings are ignored
6889 arrived at the outer terminus 33 minutes late, but has 25 minutes recovery time there, so only left 10 minutes late back to city. It also has some recovery time in city. The 17 minutes late one, 6840 one arrived and ran back to garage as scheduled so why would either of these have mileage deleted and not got passengers home who were on the buses.
Quote from: Tony on February 28, 2019, 07:06:39 PM
OK, so here is why your postings are ignored
6889 arrived at the outer terminus 33 minutes late, but has 25 minutes recovery time there, so only left 10 minutes late back to city. It also has some recovery time in city. The 17 minutes late one, 6840 one arrived and ran back to garage as scheduled so why would either of these have mileage deleted and not got passengers home who were on the buses.
Well the driver of 6889 offered to have passengers of the other one because he was near the end of his legal hours
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 28, 2019, 07:14:17 PM
Well the driver of 6889 offered to have passengers of the other one because he was near the end of his legal hours
It was tight, but driver did get back to garage within his legal driving time, so correct decision was made
Quote from: Tony on February 28, 2019, 07:38:29 PM
It was tight, but driver did get back to garage within his legal driving time, so correct decision was made
@Tony , a question if I may. We all know about drivers hours and that there not allowed to go over, what happens, say for example, in snow, where roads have become blocked and the route journey might take a lot longer than normal. Obviously a driver can't park a bus at the side of the road and leave it, is there something written in the regulations to take account for this. Sorry if this question has been asked before.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on February 28, 2019, 10:29:05 PM
@Tony , a question if I may. We all know about drivers hours and that there not allowed to go over, what happens, say for example, in snow, where roads have become blocked and the route journey might take a lot longer than normal. Obviously a driver can't park a bus at the side of the road and leave it, is there something written in the regulations to take account for this. Sorry if this question has been asked before.
there is an exclusion for 'exceptional circumstances'
Quote from: Tony on February 28, 2019, 10:41:59 PM
there is an exclusion for 'exceptional circumstances'
Thanks
@Tony
Hagley rd delays up to 5 ways due to only 1 lane into city from where the 13 bus goes up
1898 been pulled from the 952 at Hassop Road. Left town 12 mins late with 1896 behind.
Quote from: Jack on March 02, 2019, 03:58:43 PM
1898 been pulled from the 952 at Hassop Road. Left town 12 mins late with 1896 behind.
Left city 6 late with nothing behind.
Quote from: Jack on March 02, 2019, 03:58:43 PM
1898 been pulled from the 952 at Hassop Road. Left town 12 mins late with 1896 behind.
It hasn't been pulled from the 952, still on there
Quote from: Dom on March 02, 2019, 04:57:21 PM
Left city 6 late with nothing behind.
Look at the time my comment was posted...
The 15:09 from city was 1898 and arrived 12 mins late. It got to the terminus with 1896 behind and the driver called the radio on 1898 and left NIS.
Of course I don't know, even though I boarded the late bus in town and alighted on the estate...
Quote from: Jack on March 02, 2019, 05:10:50 PM
Look at the time my comment was posted...
The 15:09 from city was 1898 and arrived 12 mins late. It got to the terminus with 1896 behind and the driver called the radio on 1898 and left NIS.
Of course I don't know, even though I boarded the late bus in town and alighted on the estate...
It's the way you worded it. He didn't radio until near enough 4pm anyway.
Quote from: Dom on March 02, 2019, 05:16:15 PM
It's the way you worded it. He didn't radio until near enough 4pm anyway.
Of which he was meant to of left the Hassop terminus on the 15:38 departure... gives you an idea of how late he was...
Quote from: Jack on March 02, 2019, 05:20:00 PM
Of which he was meant to of left the Hassop terminus on the 15:38 departure... gives you an idea of how late he was...
I know how late it was. 19 minutes.
Quote from: Dom on March 02, 2019, 07:25:35 PM
I know how late it was. 19 minutes.
Those displays on the ticket machines are great, aren't they?
Bristol road services are suffering. Seen 4629 and a 550* hybrid both running NIS together. Also saw a first b7rle running NIS towards Birmingham turning off the Bristol road.
Quote from: Westy on March 02, 2019, 09:00:07 PM
Those displays on the ticket machines are great, aren't they?
Huh?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 04, 2019, 12:15:13 PM
Bristol road services are suffering. Seen 4629 and a 550* hybrid both running NIS together. Also saw a first b7rle running NIS towards Birmingham turning off the Bristol road.
Temporary way traffic lights on Bristol Rd by Sir Harrys Rd.
On a stretch of the road thats been begging to be widened for years, a bus lane would have been great there, even a left only filter lane at Priory Rd from city, but no, what do we get? - a cycle lane.
Instead of improving thousands of peoples journeys every day, a hand full of cyclists will benefit instead.
Quote from: B.C Driver on March 04, 2019, 12:30:08 PM
Temporary way traffic lights on Bristol Rd by Sir Harrys Rd.
On a stretch of the road thats been begging to be widened for years, a bus lane would have been great there, even a left only filter lane at Priory Rd from city, but no, what do we get? - a cycle lane.
Instead of improving thousands of peoples journeys every day, a hand full of cyclists will benefit instead.
They have to be seen to be encouraging environmentally friendly transport
Quote from: Westy on March 04, 2019, 01:01:27 PM
The ones saying how late the bus is!
Why would I need that?
@Westy
Temporary traffic lights on Yardley Wood Road caused a nightmare for the 2 and 3 this evening. Traffic was backed up all the way up Stoney Lane to Highgate Road. Didn't help that the Highgate Road / Stratford Road junction was also heavily congested.
If they are still there tomorrow (the temporary traffic lights), I will probably just walk home, might be quicker :)
Stop BS8 has a scrolling message about delays up to 7pm because of protest in the City Centre but I can't find anything about it anywhere?
EDIT: Apparently it's a taxi strike. Something to do with the black cabs v Uber...?
Quote from: MasterPlan on March 07, 2019, 05:06:37 PM
Stop BS8 has a scrolling message about delays up to 7pm because of protest in the City Centre but I can't find anything about it anywhere?
EDIT: Apparently it's a taxi strike. Something to do with the black cabs v Uber...?
That might explain why the Harborne routes are seemingly doing a 'QE special' tonight:
Quote from: Mike K on March 07, 2019, 06:03:59 PM
That might explain why the Harborne routes are seemingly doing a 'QE special' tonight:
Yeah it's invariably got to affect the 23/24 also. Seen quite a few go past. At least traffic is moving in that direction. Been a total standstill for ages going the other way.
Quote from: MasterPlan on March 07, 2019, 06:11:46 PM
Yeah it's invariably got to affect the 23/24 also. Seen quite a few go past. At least traffic is moving in that direction. Been a total standstill for ages going the other way.
Luckily the driver of 6866 has been as accommodating as he can with a totally rammed bus, I'm currently stood with my nose virtually rammed against his assault screen...
Quote from: Mike K on March 07, 2019, 06:17:07 PM
Luckily the driver of 6866 has been as accommodating as he can with a totally rammed bus, I'm currently stood with my nose virtually rammed against his assault screen...
Well I finished work 2 hours ago and am just approaching Holloway Circus now. Luckily the driver of 2140 made a diversion on the way into City.
Speaking of diversions just seen some 23/24s coming up along the Bristol Road into City.
EDIT: Apparently it was actually a protest from the taxi drivers over the new congestion charges. Considering what they caused, how ironic...
The Bristol road services were horrendous this afternoon. Caught a 4618 on the 61 and there were people stood upstairs lol. Also saw a 144 only going as far as bromsgrove from Birmingham.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 07, 2019, 07:46:50 PM
The Bristol road services were horrendous this afternoon. Caught a 4618 on the 61 and there were people stood upstairs lol. Also saw a 144 only going as far as bromsgrove from Birmingham.
Sounds like it impacted everything that uses that part of the city. My bus was 53 minutes late when I got off; 23/24 have been reasonably reliable in the evening peak for quite some time now so I'd assumed something was up.
Quote from: MasterPlan on March 07, 2019, 06:27:24 PM
Well I finished work 2 hours ago and am just approaching Holloway Circus now. Luckily the driver of 2140 made a diversion on the way into City.
Speaking of diversions just seen some 23/24s coming up along the Bristol Road into City.
EDIT: Apparently it was actually a protest from the taxi drivers over the new congestion charges. Considering what they caused, how ironic...
Ironic indeed. I don't think they'll garner much public support with the tactics they're using either. The inability that most people have to effectively protest in this country does make me chuckle - shouldn't their ire be directed at the council/government/policy makers rather than them just inconveniencing everyone else instead. Initially I would have supported some sort of government grant to contribute towards the cost upgrades to electric vehicles. I'm now of the opinion that they should pay for themselves out of their inflated working tax credits.
27 seems to be running haywire, they're all coming in batches of 2
Quote from: mesub on March 08, 2019, 05:01:00 PM
27 seems to be running haywire, they're all coming in batches of 2
The delays with the 27 would no doubt be linked to this:
Fri 08 Mar 2019 at 09:30 AM
End date:
Tue 12 Mar 2019 at 03:00 PM
Description:
Friday 8th - Tuesday 12th March
Each Day 09.30 - 15.00
Alwold Road and Castle Road between Barnes Hill and Weoley Avenue will be closed for roadworks.
NXWM 27 towards Harborne will be diverted via Alwold Road, Barnes Hill, Woodcock Lane, Cromwell Lane, Genners Lane, Jiggins Lane, Stonehouse Lane, then normal line of route.
27 from Harborne is unaffected by these works and will continue to use normal line of route.
All stops on the diversion route will be served.
Last WA 4H is 40 mins late
Does anyone know what's happening on the 4/4H/4M route thats making them unreliable especially at night? Diamond also running severely late
Took a ride on the 6 to Hall Green this evening, as I got off I couldn't help but notice on the ticket machine that the bus was 'Late 55'. :D
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 28, 2019, 06:48:43 PM
Does anyone know what's happening on the 4/4H/4M route thats making them unreliable especially at night? Diamond also running severely late
Something between West Bromwich and Oldbury tonight
Quote from: Tony on March 28, 2019, 06:58:46 PM
Something between West Bromwich and Oldbury tonight
I wonder if there doing roadworks at the bromford island then?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 28, 2019, 07:13:48 PM
I wonder if there doing roadworks at the bromford island then?
Temporary traffic lights Bromford Lane. been like it for the last 2 weeks. hopefully off tomorrow or next couple of days. queueing all the way back to oldbury all times of day towards west brom.
Quote from: wbdriver on March 28, 2019, 07:16:22 PM
Temporary traffic lights Bromford Lane. been like it for the last 2 weeks. hopefully off tomorrow or next couple of days. queueing all the way back to oldbury all times of day towards west brom.
Thanks for the info
@wbdriver
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 28, 2019, 07:26:03 PM
Thanks for the info @wbdriver
no problem. just fed up of leaving oldbury on time on the 3 and getting to west brom 10 min late!
Quote from: wbdriver on March 28, 2019, 07:30:15 PM
no problem. just fed up of leaving oldbury on time on the 3 and getting to west brom 10 min late!
It's due to fhish tommorow
Four 16's in convoy at Birmingham Markets. In this order: 4806, 4805, 4801, and then 4499, I believe.
4811 as well.
No sign of 952's for the last 40 mins, still waiting at Bull Street...
EDIT: 1879 just arrived, meant to do the 16:09 departure...
Quote from: Jack on March 30, 2019, 04:28:33 PM
No sign of 952's for the last 40 mins, still waiting at Bull Street...
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/huge-delays-out-city-centre-16052334?fbclid=IwAR3ixyyyTQI675r_D1fYVnm5FRKcwlohVZ8-mjIMhH1ZnL2gwpFgrUwkOPs
3 ☓20s arriving into City within the space of a few minutes.
Quote from: MasterPlan on April 03, 2019, 05:28:33 PM
3 ☓20s arriving into City within the space of a few minutes.
Normal service resumed then ay?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 03, 2019, 09:44:22 PM
Normal service resumed then ay?
Well I don't know about that but further down the route there were also 2 ☓20s at Oak Tree Lane towards Rednal.
I've seen a number of rather late running 99/36 buses over the past few days, including 831 running 30 minutes late today on the 99, another late yesterday as well and a 494X running 30 minutes late at about 17:15 on the 36 towards Sparkhill.
I have heard the drivers saying that with the current timetable, its impossible to run on time.
Quote from: 2206 on April 04, 2019, 06:52:22 PM
I've seen a number of rather late running 99/36 buses over the past few days, including 831 running 30 minutes late today on the 99, another late yesterday as well and a 494X running 30 minutes late at about 17:15 on the 36 towards Sparkhill.
I have heard the drivers saying that with the current timetable, its impossible to run on time.
Igo could???
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 04, 2019, 09:23:04 PM
Igo could???
No they couldn't they just missed chunks of the route out to get back on time
Some Igo drivers have TUPEd over to NX
How is your 10H/10S doing regarding staying on time? Running punctually?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 04, 2019, 09:40:23 PM
How is your 10H/10S doing regarding staying on time? Running punctually?
They're not on the tracking system yet but the 10s will be ok, it get a long layover at Selly Oak
Quote from: Tony on April 04, 2019, 09:44:49 PM
They're not on the tracking system yet but the 10s will be ok, it get a long layover at Selly Oak
To be fair Igo always used to run quite well on both services there. A few minutes late outbound after getting down harborne high street was a regular occurrence. From city centre they always seemed very reliable
Yesterday's first northbound 99 was 18 minutes late at Lea Hall station. It (831) had recovered to just 11 minutes late by 2pm. It made me feel all nostalgic for the Igo days!
Quote from: dave47549 (no longer NEL111P) on April 05, 2019, 10:00:11 AM
Yesterday's first northbound 99 was 18 minutes late at Lea Hall station. It (831) had recovered to just 11 minutes late by 2pm. It made me feel all nostalgic for the Igo days!
The 8xx series are really struggling on there due to bad parking
Quote from: Tony on April 05, 2019, 10:20:18 AM
The 8xx series are really struggling on there due to bad parking
would the 7** be better on the 99
Quote from: Solo1 on April 05, 2019, 11:19:08 AM
would the 7** be better on the 99
Yes they would but which route do you wish to take them off
Quote from: Tony on April 05, 2019, 12:50:33 PM
Yes they would but which route do you wish to take them off
Do Dundee not have spare 43X Streetlites?
Someone said they do on here I recall?
Quote from: Tony on April 05, 2019, 12:50:33 PM
Yes they would but which route do you wish to take them off
You could have PN e200s? The 28 can cope with long e200s
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 05, 2019, 01:21:43 PM
You could have PN e200s? The 28 can cope with long e200s
Plus B7s can fit the 208 (when Diamond ran it, one appeared on a boxing day service on the 208, same with TGB tridents)
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 05, 2019, 01:21:43 PM
You could have PN e200s? The 28 can cope with long e200s
And what would operate all the new services from 21/4/19
Quote from: Tony on April 05, 2019, 04:40:47 PM
And what would operate all the new services from 21/4/19
Can the 27 not use longer buses? Not familiar with the route, but I thought deckers have done it in the past?
Are most of those SWB E200 at WN used on the 27?
Quote from: 2206 on April 05, 2019, 05:46:40 PM
Can the 27 not use longer buses? Not familiar with the route, but I thought deckers have done it in the past?
They've already been/being taken off the 27.
There are 18 of them and all 18 need to be where they are going to be from the 21st, so there is no scope for other routes
Quote from: 2206 on April 05, 2019, 05:46:40 PM
Can the 27 not use longer buses? Not familiar with the route, but I thought deckers have done it in the past?
Are most of those SWB E200 at WN used on the 27?
The 27 has started to see larger buses again, the 8**'s are becoming the mainstay again and regular B7RLE appearances too.
If WN are keeping any smaller E200's, they will be required on the 62 (2 buses) and the recently won 61 (1 bus) which starts on the 22nd April.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 05, 2019, 01:21:43 PM
You could have PN e200s? The 28 can cope with long e200s
bigger e200s sometimes struggle on the merry hill to Halesowen section because of the same thing parking on narrow streets
6773 & 6786 bunched up together on the X7 to Wolverhampton on the Oldbury Road, a few minutes ago
Two BC10 towards Quinton went past Five Ways at 6:50pm
There must have been quite a hold up somewhere on the 55 and 94 routes today. I got on the first of 3 55s followed by 2 94s at Saltley Gate. By the time we got into the city centre, our convoy had become 5 55s, 3 94s follwed very shortly afterwards by a Claribel 94. Fun watching 8 buses trying to all set down and the relief drivers trying to work out which was their bus.
Over the past week or so there's been quite a bit of daytime bunching, usually 2, 3 or even 4 at a time on these routes, is there roadworks in the Chelmsley area? As at least Fox and Goose to City is normally clear.
Quote from: Gareth on April 23, 2019, 02:11:43 PM
Over the past week or so there's been quite a bit of daytime bunching, usually 2, 3 or even 4 at a time on these routes, is there roadworks in the Chelmsley area? As at least Fox and Goose to City is normally clear.
There were roadworks on Stechford Lane on the 55 and 11 routes the other day, the traffic was all the way back up to the Fox and Goose the other day towards Chelmsley only.
Not sure if they're still there today?
Are the taxis causing problems in Brum today with their protests etc
Quote from: monkeyjoe on April 23, 2019, 02:40:13 PM
Are the taxis causing problems in Brum today with their protests etc
Not now. Its ended now.
I caught an X22 earlier at about 13:00 and the roads were all clear from City Centre to University Station, so must have finished before 13:00.
Happened between 8 and 10 this morning from what I can see looking it up.
23/24's were seemingly coming into Birmingham along Snow Hill Queensway and Priory Quuensway this morning. I saw 6853 coming in that way this morning at about 09:30. I notice from the NX Twitter page, Uni, 61/63 and 80 were also on diversion.
It would have affected routes the roues that come in from that side of Birmingham mainly - Uni, 61/63, 80 and 23/24.
Quote from: Gareth on April 23, 2019, 02:11:43 PM
There must have been quite a hold up somewhere on the 55 and 94 routes today. I got on the first of 3 55s followed by 2 94s at Saltley Gate. By the time we got into the city centre, our convoy had become 5 55s, 3 94s follwed very shortly afterwards by a Claribel 94. Fun watching 8 buses trying to all set down and the relief drivers trying to work out which was their bus.
Over the past week or so there's been quite a bit of daytime bunching, usually 2, 3 or even 4 at a time on these routes, is there roadworks in the Chelmsley area? As at least Fox and Goose to City is normally clear.
traffic in city causing them to wait about 10-15 minutes on Jennens Road
Quote from: SK68MEV on April 23, 2019, 03:23:13 PM
traffic in city causing them to wait about 10-15 minutes on Jennens Road
It was a clear run in both directions between City and Saltley. So even with earlier hold ups, that wouldn't have caused 8 to turn up at the same time city bound.
Quote from: Gareth on April 23, 2019, 08:09:45 PM
It was a clear run in both directions between City and Saltley. So even with earlier hold ups, that wouldn't have caused 8 to turn up at the same time city bound.
55s were losing up to 20 minutes in the Stechford Road/Stechford Lane area around lunchtime
3 X21s in convoy at the moment due to the diversion. Surprised none of them have been adjusted though.
1113 X3 from Lichfield to Birmingham was a no show in Lichfield this morning.
All of the Walsall City services seen to be running quite late at the moment...I'm just on 6716 on an X51 from Cannock to Birmingham which is currently running 55 minutes late and being followed by two others from Cannock and one from Walsall.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on May 10, 2019, 04:48:14 PM
All of the Walsall City services seen to be running quite late at the moment...I'm just on 6716 on an X51 from Cannock to Birmingham which is currently running 55 minutes late and being followed by two others from Cannock and one from Walsall.
There was an X51 to Cannock timed at Walsall for about 1704 which failed to show, by the time the previous Arriva 1 turned up late(which I caught!) & by the time I got to my house in Leamore, the Arriva 2 was just passing.
Quote from: Westy on May 10, 2019, 06:48:38 PM
There was an X51 to Cannock timed at Walsall for about 1704 which failed to show, by the time the previous Arriva 1 turned up late(which I caught!) & by the time I got to my house in Leamore, the Arriva 2 was just passing.
Perhaps this has something to do with it.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/live-updates-m6-southbound-closed-16255155?fbclid=IwAR0C7nswqc9BomTzGk6UVkIdLNaRN7Vnz6nazmVH8IS_F_m-wfNm_CWOIFI
6832 running 15 late with the 15:58 X1 from Cov.
Destination stuck on Coventry and the next stop insisting every stop is Pool Meadow.
Actually scrap that, display inside just changed to "next stop Moor Street Queensway" while still in Allesley...
11s are screwed. All running NIS
Quote from: Tony on May 14, 2019, 12:32:46 PM
No they're not.
4 passed selly oak oak tree lane NIS. Cowboy operator drove straight past too 15 minutes late!
11A's were running very late this evening, had a 45 minute wait for one this evening, 40+ people waiting for it at the Swan. 2 packed double deckers turned up Managed to get on 6137 at about 17:25.
I don't use this journey everyday, but everyday I do there always seems to be big 40 minute gaps in service in the PM peak. AM peak seems to run much more reliably.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 14, 2019, 12:28:05 PM
11s are screwed. All running NIS
All running NIS, what all 20 plus of them!!
Quote from: fleetline6477 on May 16, 2019, 07:32:47 PM
All running NIS, what all 20 plus of them!!
And the other 20 going the other way!
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 14, 2019, 12:28:05 PM
11s are screwed. All running NIS
All 40 buses out of service? 4 is not all of them...
Quote from: 2206 on May 16, 2019, 06:49:26 PM
11A's were running very late this evening, had a 45 minute wait for one this evening, 40+ people waiting for it at the Swan. 2 packed double deckers turned up Managed to get on 6137 at about 17:25.
I don't use this journey everyday, but everyday I do there always seems to be big 40 minute gaps in service in the PM peak. AM peak seems to run much more reliably.
I'm not sure if they have finished now, but there have been four-way controlled traffic lights at the Yardley Wood Road / Swanshurst Lane island in Billesley that have been causing havoc for the last few days.
The problem that the 11 has is that typically, you do 2 trips before a break and you can drive no more than 5hour30mins in one go legally. Peak trips are between 2hour 35 to 3 hours as far as I remember. In a lot of cases, if you're more than 10 mins late, you will be over your hours, and when there's unavoidable congestion/delays, you will sometimes have to terminate short. Sometimes, you'll see buses at Sarehole Mill on the 11A parked up as the driver cannot drive any further, and Yardley/Swan on the 11C.
The bus will then have to be collected by the next driver and an inspector to ferry the old driver back to depot for his/her break, and then the bus would be adjusted back into service.
I myself saw about 5 11 branded MMCs running NIS on Warwick Road in Tyseley today.
3 X51s have all just left City together
6 11A running in convoy at about half 5 seen on bromford lane
7019 and 1927 came into Sutton and left together on the 66 at about 13:30. Every 30 minute service, so one of them must have been 30 minutes late.
Bristol Road and University services seem to have lots of disruption this evening for some reason.
I noticed a 63 to Frankley at Birmingham University on Edgbaston Park Road at about 16:00, carrying passengers (61/63 Branded Hybrid). With 5517 following NIS closely behind.
Univerisity services were all bunched together. 6892 was at the University heading towards Cofton Hacket on the X20 at 16:00, 46 minutes late with another full X20 and X21 closely behind (Passeed 2 X20's together and 2 X21's heading the other way in convey as well).
6880 was also 37 minutes heading into Birmingham at 16:45 on the X22, with another X22 and a few more X20/1's behind.
City centre was carnage roads closed and pride lorries setting up effecting pershore rd / Bristol Rd buses . It was carnage when trying to get my car from Bristol street garage after not moving for 40 mins on Sherlock street did a u turn and went home. Feel sorry for bus passengers and drivers
Just seen two 11s and an 11A arrive into Dudley together, should be 10 mins between them.
Quote from: StourValley98 on May 25, 2019, 03:09:34 PM
Just seen two 11s and an 11A arrive into Dudley together, should be 10 mins between them.
Hated that route with a passion!
What's reliability like on the Walsall to Darlaston corridor, as I'm spending a couple of months (I hope !) at our depot next to the Gala Bingo?
I know it's a frequent service, but it does it work?
Three X20s in convoy along Bath Row towards City.
4th one not far behind by George Road.
6840 came into Birmingham 53 minutes late on the X20 at about 17:00 this evening. In a convey of University X20/X21/X22 buses.
6887 infront looked very overcrowded on the X21.
6882 heading the other way was running 36 minutes late on the X22.
X20/X21/X22 seem to be fairly unreliable, though very well used routes.
Quote from: 2206 on June 07, 2019, 05:46:40 PM
6840 came into Birmingham 53 minutes late on the X20 at about 17:00 this evening. In a convey of University X20/X21/X22 buses.
6887 infront looked very overcrowded on the X21.
6882 heading the other way was running 36 minutes late on the X22.
X20/X21/X22 seem to be fairly unreliable, though very well used routes.
I'm down in Gatwick but I've heard traffic in Birmingham has basically stopped in parts. Why are you judging a service on a day with exceptional traffic problems
Harborne services, which to be fair have generally been pretty reliable since last year's changes, and even more so since the introduction of the Harborne Road bus lane, were also a mess this evening. Four 23s within 6 minutes on Broad St outbound at around 5.45.
The closure of Five Ways underpass isn't helping either.
Quote from: Mike K on June 07, 2019, 07:43:00 PM
Harborne services, which to be fair have generally been pretty reliable since last year's changes, and even more so since the introduction of the Harborne Road bus lane, were also a mess this evening. Four 23s within 6 minutes on Broad St outbound at around 5.45.
The closure of Five Ways underpass isn't helping either.
When is the other end of Broad St going to be open again?
Major delays in Solihull this afternoon, caused by temporary traffic lights and roadworks on Lode Lane, by Rowood Drive.
It took 6854 1 hour 10 minutes on the 16:40 X2 departure from Solihull Station, to get out of Solihull to the Rowood Drive stop on Lode Lane, I got on at Solihull Station, got on the bus at 16:40 and it didn't get there till 17:50, it finally got to the Swan at 18:06 after nearly 90 minutes on it, longest amount of time its ever taken me to make this journey.
Does anyone know how long the temporary traffic lights/roadworks will be on Lode Lane?
NX should have diverted (via Warwick Road and Dovehouse Lane) them when the traffic was this bad and causing major delays, the traffic was at a standstill all the way from where the X2 exits the Station onto Blossomfield Road all the way up Lode Lane to by Rowood Drive. Like they've done in Birmingham City Centre in the past when Park Street has been causing major delays.
@2206 apparently it's a burst water main.
Traffic was backed up further back down Blossomfield Road, near to the college and also Streetsbrook Road up to Sharmans Cross Rd.
I took over an A8W 20 minutes late at 16:50, and lost 15 minutes just getting around the Station onto blossomfield Road!
No point diverting along the Warwick road as that was just as bad, at least it was at 18:00 when I was heading back to garage.
Just got off 6998, running the 16. A quick glance at the ticket machine shows it running 33 minutes late!
16s and 74s bunching at Hockley earlier; caught a 16 up to Hamstead, where I saw 6994, 7501, 7503 and another running in convoy.
7501 left Hamstead first, out of service. 6994 would leave/has left on a 16E to Hockley. 7503, which I'm currently on, is the only one of the three running into Birmingham - thankfully!
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/live-environment-protesters-block-key-16493372
I presume this is the reason behind it ???
Quote from: CL on June 27, 2019, 10:24:32 AM
16s and 74s bunching at Hockley earlier; caught a 16 up to Hamstead, where I saw 6994, 7501, 7503 and another running in convoy.
7501 left Hamstead first, out of service. 6994 would leave/has left on a 16E to Hockley. 7503, which I'm currently on, is the only one of the three running into Birmingham - thankfully!
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/live-environment-protesters-block-key-16493372
I presume this is the reason behind it ???
I belive it is ,but what I find funny is there doing this protest the fumes from cars in traffic am bad for the environment
Quote from: CL on June 27, 2019, 10:24:32 AM
16s and 74s bunching at Hockley earlier; caught a 16 up to Hamstead, where I saw 6994, 7501, 7503 and another running in convoy.
7501 left Hamstead first, out of service. 6994 would leave/has left on a 16E to Hockley. 7503, which I'm currently on, is the only one of the three running into Birmingham - thankfully!
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/live-environment-protesters-block-key-16493372
I presume this is the reason behind it ???
There was an RTC at one of the junctions on Great Hampton Row services coming from city were on diversion.
The last 16a has not up turned up......Update 7502 left moor st 00.21
Quote from: 37351ml on June 29, 2019, 12:10:16 AM
The last 16a has not up turned up......Update 7502 left moor st 00.21
I'm sure it's been said that the last bus of the day has to run or something along them lines can anyone confirm ?
The 80s and 80As were running in pairs respectively yesterday peak time. It was Crimson Enviro run-a-muck on the Oldbury Road
Quote from: Sh4318 on June 29, 2019, 11:36:47 AM
The 80s and 80As were running in pairs respectively yesterday peak time. It was Crimson Enviro run-a-muck on the Oldbury Road
broken traffic lights was the cause near the city causing knock on effect all round the five ways & city
Now been waiting 27 mins for a 23 towards city, still no sign of a bus. Shame that the NXWM app no longer works for the 23 inbound, I could have seen the state they are in and timed leaving the house accordingly. Hugely frustrating.
Several 9s to bearwood and Portland road this evening
19:50 X1 Coventry to Brum a no show.
No sign of the 20:20 yet either?
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on July 09, 2019, 08:24:14 PM
19:50 X1 Coventry to Brum a no show.
It did run - 34 minutes late bus 6842
Quote from: Tony on July 09, 2019, 08:37:50 PM
It did run - 34 minutes late bus 6842
I don't recall seeing it but then who knows I might of had a microsleep. Thanks anyway.
2021 on the 4 running 18 minutes late
The 49 service seemed to be very unreliable today. 4 buses turned up together at Shirley Station at 14:23 all heading towards Solihull including 4569, do you know what caused this
@Tony? Passengers were complaining that there had been no 49's towards Solihull and they had been waiting over an hour.
3 going the other way towards Northfield at about 14:10, not long between each other.
Hagley road services running very late. Seen a 9E to Portland road and there was a vehicle parked at bearwood waiting to take up service towards Halesowen it appeared. Had to wait 15 minutes for any hagley road service to arrive in Birmingham, then 2 9s, a x10,x8 and 12 all arrived at same time.
Why haven't they updated the timetables to allow drivers more time going around Birmingham?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 27, 2019, 07:45:20 PM
Hagley road services running very late. Seen a 9E to Portland road and there was a vehicle parked at bearwood waiting to take up service towards Halesowen it appeared. Had to wait 15 minutes for any hagley road service to arrive in Birmingham, then 2 9s, a x10,x8 and 12 all arrived at same time.
Why haven't they updated the timetables to allow drivers more time going around Birmingham?
Let's have a complete timetable change, then on the one day a year two cars collide on Newhall Street the buses will be on time.
Quote from: 2206 on August 27, 2019, 05:51:52 PM
The 49 service seemed to be very unreliable today. 4 buses turned up together at Shirley Station at 14:23 all heading towards Solihull including 4569, do you know what caused this @Tony? Passengers were complaining that there had been no 49's towards Solihull and they had been waiting over an hour.
3 going the other way towards Northfield at about 14:10, not long between each other.
They were bunched up about 1330-1400 when I saw them in Northfield too. There's roadworks on the Redditch Road so that will be what's destroying the service pattern
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 27, 2019, 07:45:20 PM
Hagley road services running very late. Seen a 9E to Portland road and there was a vehicle parked at bearwood waiting to take up service towards Halesowen it appeared. Had to wait 15 minutes for any hagley road service to arrive in Birmingham, then 2 9s, a x10,x8 and 12 all arrived at same time.
Why haven't they updated the timetables to allow drivers more time going around Birmingham?
9s stuck on Stourbridge Road/Lutley Mill Road, Halesowen, yesterday due to temporary traffic lights. Traffic back up Windmill Hill to Colley Gate and to Alexandra Road causing bunching and delays which would have contributed and outside the control of the bus operators.
The 55 seems to be running fairly unreliably this afternoon.
1816 terminated at Fox and Goose on a 55E to Ward End from Chelmsley at 15:00, 1825 operating NIS to Birmingham City Centre. Leaving all the passengers to get on 1821, which was very overcrowded.
Gaps in service. 20 minute gaps between buses on the 55 and 94.
Quote from: 2206 on August 29, 2019, 03:34:09 PM
The 55 seems to be running fairly unreliably this afternoon.
1816 terminated at Fox and Goose on a 55E to Ward End from Chelmsley at 15:00, 1825 operating NIS to Birmingham City Centre. Leaving all the passengers to get on 1821, which was very overcrowded.
Gaps in service. 20 minute gaps between buses on the 55 and 94.
It was a bit chaotic in the city centre earlier too. 3 55s out of service (one of those being driven away by an engineer) Claribel 94 also driving off out of service. 14s were bunching. Then when I finally got on a 14, three 94s and two 55s arrived on Priory Queensway closely followed by another 94. An X12 also arrived and drove off out of service.
The 23.30 16 from city left snow hill 23.59. The 16 frequently suffers from late running in the late evenings, i’m guessing the 30 minutes allowed from hamstead to city is too little and there is no recovery time once one of the boards is running late.
4860 departed around 50 minutes late from Birmingham City Centre on the 20:17 937A due to roadworks on the Perry Barr Flyover and Newtown Row heading into City. This meaning that services are having to divert via Birchfield Road to the Barton Arms, then down Alma Street to Milton Street before going back onto normal line of route.
435 is apparently 123 minutes late on the 10S
Quote from: mesub on September 07, 2019, 03:58:29 PM
435 is apparently 123 minutes late on the 10S
Just the ticket machine stuck on the wrong journey number
Nearly a half hour gap in service on the 97 this morning. Followed by 5 buses in 10 minutes.
4658 has just left the stop by Solihull Ice Rink in the direction of Chelmsley 4 minutes early. Due at 0721 but left at 0717.
Quote from: WMT3000 on September 11, 2019, 07:25:43 AM
4658 has just left the stop by Solihull Ice Rink in the direction of Chelmsley 4 minutes early. Due at 0721 but left at 0717.
That's not a timing point though. First timing point out of Solihull is Wheathsheaf where it is due at 0723. He arrived there at 07:22.
Quote from: Tony on September 11, 2019, 08:05:46 AM
That's not a timing point though. First timing point out of Solihull is Wheathsheaf where it is due at 0723. He arrived there at 07:22.
Cheers
@Tony. I suspected it would be right time at the Wheatsheaf.
Just got off 6871 on the 23 and the ticket machine was showing 140 minutes late. Now reliability of the 23 has descended into a shambles of late, but I suspect this was some sort of error.
Quote from: Mike K on September 24, 2019, 07:43:31 PM
Just got off 6871 on the 23 and the ticket machine was showing 140 minutes late. Now reliability of the 23 has descended into a shambles of late, but I suspect this was some sort of error.
Bus services have been disrupted all day because of the weather and traffic conditions. I believe Tony has pointed out before that this kind of 'anomalous' reading might occur when a bus has been 'adjusted' in service but the journey details on the POS unit haven't been updated. (Or something to that effect!)
Quote from: Mike K on September 24, 2019, 07:43:31 PM
Just got off 6871 on the 23 and the ticket machine was showing 140 minutes late. Now reliability of the 23 has descended into a shambles of late, but I suspect this was some sort of error.
Yes, it is on running board 24-16, but for some reason has picked that journey up as the 16:37 from 24-17
X8 X10 and pn 19 all subject to delay as more roadworks have popped up resurfacing work at the stag and three OSS shoes
Quote from: karl724223 on September 26, 2019, 06:10:12 PM
X8 X10 and pn 19 all subject to delay as more roadworks have popped up resurfacing work at the stag and three OSS shoes
2 X8s running together yesterday heading to Wolverhampton at 2:30 at the stag
X8 X18 pn 19 all been running very late again due to roadworks at the stag and 3 OSS Shoes
And weather
55 and 94 seemed to be disrupted this evening.
A large crowd of passengers waiting on the stand.
1788, later followed by another Omnilink and Gemini arrived NIS and presumably had been adjusted alongside 3 rammed omnilinks that had come in on the 55.
The 2 Claribel buses on the 55/94 left full as well.
Quote from: 2206 on October 01, 2019, 05:36:56 PM
55 and 94 seemed to be disrupted this evening.
A large crowd of passengers waiting on the stand.
1788, later followed by another Omnilink and Gemini arrived NIS and presumably had been adjusted alongside 3 rammed omnilinks that had come in on the 55.
The 2 Claribel buses on the 55/94 left full as well.
Yeah I saw this too. Same with the 14 stop to be honest There were 3 14s all loading up when I was there. Then another 14 and a 14E to Stetchford arrived.
Seen loads of part route workings today. Seems to be bad everywhere.
It's because of the floodings on alum rock road all services round there are disrupted also 28 has a massive gap in service loads of people waiting for it at heartlands hospital
☓20/☓21/☓22 having another terrible day.
Quote from: MasterPlan on October 07, 2019, 05:37:40 PM
☓20/☓21/☓22 having another terrible day.
Every days a bad day on there
The 23 was having a bad day as well.
Quote from: mesub on October 07, 2019, 09:25:55 PM
The 23 was having a bad day as well.
You should try take the BY17, every day is a bad day on the route. I waited over 20 minutes for it, and FOUR turned up at the same time.
3 ☓21s going through Selly Oak to Woodcock Hill in the space of about 5 mins.
Quote from: MasterPlan on October 10, 2019, 05:49:35 PM
3 ☓21s going through Selly Oak to Woodcock Hill in the space of about 5 mins.
I think the reduction in frequency from every 15 to every 20 mins on that corridor has escalated the problems further on that corridor
4Hs around 12:00 were running very late. Scania was running a 4H to blackheath coming from Hayley green and a B7RLE was a 4H from Walsall to Halesowen only
1855 running 28 minutes late, no wonder when you got the worlds slowest women driver at the wheel!!
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 12, 2019, 03:30:28 PM
1855 running 28 minutes late, no wonder when you got the worlds slowest women driver at the wheel!!
At no point today has 1855 been anywhere near 28 minutes late (It is currently 2 minutes late). Perhaps you might like to tell us what job you do so perfectly that you can critisise other individuals.
Accept this as a warning of a personal attack which is against forum rules!
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 12, 2019, 03:30:28 PM
1855 running 28 minutes late, no wonder when you got the worlds slowest women driver at the wheel!!
To add to Tony's comment, can you provide any evidence of this?
Quote from: Tony on October 12, 2019, 03:49:34 PM
At no point today has 1855 been anywhere near 28 minutes late (It is currently 2 minutes late). Perhaps you might like to tell us what job you do so perfectly that you can critisise other individuals.
Accept this as a warning of a personal attack which is against forum rules!
It had got 28 minutes late on the ticket machine
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 12, 2019, 10:25:19 PM
It had got 28 minutes late on the ticket machine
Still no heed for a personal attack on a driver who you made identifiable to any down the route who according to the tracking system stayed 100% within the traffic commissioner's -1+4 minute rules for an entire round trip from Walsall to Hasbury and back.
Quote from: Tony on October 12, 2019, 10:41:38 PM
Still no heed for a personal attack on a driver who you made identifiable to any down the route who according to the tracking system stayed 100% within the traffic commissioner's -1+4 minute rules for an entire round trip from Walsall to Hasbury and back.
What's the -1+4 minute rule
Quote from: Busboy105 on October 12, 2019, 11:03:34 PM
What's the -1+4 minute rule
You can run a minute early or up to 4 mins late. As long as you run within that window, you're on time.
I always thought it was up to 10 mins though.
Quote from: MW on October 12, 2019, 11:34:43 PM
You can run a minute early or up to 4 mins late. As long as you run within that window, you're on time.
I always thought it was up to 10 mins though.
10 minutes would be a bit much, no?
Quote from: Tony on October 12, 2019, 10:41:38 PM
Still no heed for a personal attack on a driver who you made identifiable to any down the route who according to the tracking system stayed 100% within the traffic commissioner's -1+4 minute rules for an entire round trip from Walsall to Hasbury and back.
Ok I apologise I needed to get to work on time. She arrived at my stop 10 minutes late so don't know she complied to that
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 13, 2019, 08:13:35 AM
Ok I apologise I needed to get to work on time. She arrived at my stop 10 minutes late so don't know she complied to that
@Tony has stated some times the ticket machine logs into the wrong route board as someone mentioned with the 23/24 was showing 120 minutes late when it was not
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 13, 2019, 08:13:35 AM
Ok I apologise I needed to get to work on time. She arrived at my stop 10 minutes late so don't know she complied to that
I didn't say 100% every trip. I don't know which one you were on, but if the driver can do a complete round trip on time it is not her driving at fault. How come 28 minutes has suddenly become 10 minutes?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 13, 2019, 08:13:35 AM
Ok I apologise I needed to get to work on time. She arrived at my stop 10 minutes late so don't know she complied to that
The answer to that then is catch an earlier bus!! If a minor delay is going to cause you to be late, get the one before just in case!
Do hope it wasn't my work friend's sister driving?
Quote from: MW on October 12, 2019, 11:34:43 PM
You can run a minute early or up to 4 mins late. As long as you run within that window, you're on time.
I always thought it was up to 10 mins though.
I believe the 10 mins late is when TfWM class the trip as withdrawn unless there is a valid reason for lateness
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on October 13, 2019, 11:32:37 AM
I believe the 10 mins late is when TfWM class the trip as withdrawn unless there is a valid reason for lateness
They'd have fun with the 11 / 11a then!
Quote from: Westy on October 13, 2019, 12:58:23 PM
They'd have fun with the 11 / 11a then!
According to that there would be barely any university services running.
@MasterPlan
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 13, 2019, 08:01:46 PM
According to that there would be barely any university services running. @MasterPlan
Perhaps, but the route has become untenable due to those traffic lights. My bus to work this morning arrived into the City Centre remotely on time for the first time in weeks but that's because the usual congestion on Edgbaston Park Road wasn't there.
All the way from selly oak retail park island into the QE is very heavy traffic. Causing large delays
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 16, 2019, 11:33:18 AM
All the way from selly oak retail park island into the QE is very heavy traffic. Causing large delays
Was at the QE today, all that traffic appeared to be caused by people trying to access the main car park next to the main entrance. Whoever designed that road layout clearly was clueless about how much traffic would be using it. They should have built the car parks offsite, like near the new Sainsbury's and had shuttle buses taking people to the hospital. When I came out there were two 48s within 5 minutes of each other so one must have been at least 25 minutes late.
4944 was 30 minutes late at University at about 17:30 on a X22 to Birmingham, large numbers of people waiting at stops, particularly University North Gate, looked like there had been a big gap in service.
Temporary traffic lights and roadworks on Edgbaston Park Road looked like they were causing delays as well.
Quote from: 2206 on October 22, 2019, 06:51:25 PM
4944 was 30 minutes late at University at about 17:30 on a X22 to Birmingham, large numbers of people waiting at stops, particularly University North Gate, looked like there had been a big gap in service.
Temporary traffic lights and roadworks on Edgbaston Park Road looked like they were causing delays as well.
Or the fact a lorry has shed it load by Five Way
Quote from: 2206 on October 22, 2019, 06:51:25 PM
4944 was 30 minutes late at University at about 17:30 on a X22 to Birmingham, large numbers of people waiting at stops, particularly University North Gate, looked like there had been a big gap in service.
Temporary traffic lights and roadworks on Edgbaston Park Road looked like they were causing delays as well.
I caught that from Birmingham to university about 3:40, ended up 20 minutes late already by the time I reached university. I shall be getting the 61/63 in future
3303 on my 9 was 30 minutes late.
Quote from: Tony on October 22, 2019, 06:53:19 PM
Or the fact a lorry has shed it load by Five Way
Could TfWM/NXWM also install shelters for people to wait in at North Gate and RTI screens at University North Gate and QE Hospital/University Station so people can see how long they will be waiting. Can't see why not when much less used stops across the West Midlands have shelters and RTI screens.
42,74,87&126 were running late this morning due to an accident on the Dudley bypass and the resulting traffic tailing back onto Castle Gate Island.
Looks like all of the buses on WA45 are running late today. 1941 left West Bromwich around 5-10 minutes ago on what I assume should have been the 15:15 45 to Walsall, and 1847 has just left on what I assume should have been the 15:45 45 to Walsall.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on October 27, 2019, 04:07:54 PM
Looks like all of the buses on WA45 are running late today. 1941 left West Bromwich around 5-10 minutes ago on what I assume should have been the 15:15 45 to Walsall, and 1847 has just left on what I assume should have been the 15:45 45 to Walsall.
Sunday is regularly chaotic on that route due to Bescot Market
Currently got a shelter full of people at the kings head waiting for the 11C, which doesn't look like it has turned up for over 20 minutes now. 6130 has passed NIS and there's a Gemini parked on the hagley road. Not good service at all
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 05, 2019, 08:42:19 AM
Currently got a shelter full of people at the kings head waiting for the 11C, which doesn't look like it has turned up for over 20 minutes now. 6130 has passed NIS and there's a Gemini parked on the hagley road. Not good service at all
6147 left the Kings Head at 08:25
6125 left the Kings Head at 08:30
4645 left the Kings Head at 08:35
Quote from: Tony on November 05, 2019, 08:49:37 AM
6147 left the Kings Head at 08:25
6125 left the Kings Head at 08:30
4645 left the Kings Head at 08:35
Must have all been full then then amount of people waiting there at 8:35. There was no 8:35 11A that's for sure. Apologies meant the 11A not 11C
54/54As are running well then. 761 on the 54 followed closely by 763 on the 54A both to West Bromwich at Rolfe Street after 6:30 tonight
Quote from: Sh4318 on November 06, 2019, 10:28:53 PM
54/54As are running well then. 761 on the 54 followed closely by 763 on the 54A both to West Bromwich at Rolfe Street after 6:30 tonight
Think it is going be like this for a while due to 10/S. Was on the 54A in the afternoon and 54 was behind me and I did see the same on the opposite direction.
Quote from: Sh4318 on November 06, 2019, 10:28:53 PM
54/54As are running well then. 761 on the 54 followed closely by 763 on the 54A both to West Bromwich at Rolfe Street after 6:30 tonight
Bring back diamond on the 54!!
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 07, 2019, 08:42:07 AM
Bring back diamond on the 54!!
Don't know why NX struggle with these tender routes. They struggled with the 36 when they had it but maybe it's because of it's unusual frequency I don't know. But either way, you're probably going to have to deal with it I'm afraid.
Quote from: Busboy105 on November 07, 2019, 08:57:57 AM
Don't know why NX struggle with these tender routes. They struggled with the 36 when they had it but maybe it's because of it's unusual frequency I don't know. But either way, you're probably going to have to deal with it I'm afraid.
They struggled with the 36 because they drove safely and to the speed limits and didn't just miss random bits out off their own free will like Igo were doing
Quote from: Tony on November 07, 2019, 09:50:03 AM
They struggled with the 36 because they drove safely and to the speed limits and didn't just miss random bits out off their own free will like Igo were doing
Yeah but people will start complaining when the bus doesn't arrive on time. (Which is partly the reason why this thread has over 150 pages).
Quote from: Busboy105 on November 07, 2019, 11:16:06 AM
Yeah but people will start complaining when the bus doesn't arrive on time. (Which is partly the reason why this thread has over 150 pages).
They complain even more if you kill someone from dangerous driving
Quote from: Tony on November 07, 2019, 09:50:03 AM
They struggled with the 36 because they drove safely and to the speed limits and didn't just miss random bits out off their own free will like Igo were doing
Whenever I see the 36 come down Millhouse Road towards Heartlands Hospital, drivers usually go pretty fast if the road is clear. And I always wonder what would happen if a car pulls in late in front of the bus.
Quote from: Busboy105 on November 07, 2019, 12:20:11 PM
Whenever I see the 36 come down Millhouse Road towards Heartlands Hospital, drivers usually go pretty fast if the road is clear. And I always wonder what would happen if a car pulls in late in front of the bus.
When you say "pretty fast" what do you estimate the speed to be? Give there's speed humps along this section, I doubt a bus would achieve a great turn of speed - I'm sure if any of the NXWM drivers were driving other than in accordance with the prescribed limits then their Trafficlog reports would alert their depot management and a subsequent discussion would ensue.
Quote from: Wumpty on November 07, 2019, 12:24:27 PM
When you say "pretty fast" what do you estimate the speed to be? Give there's speed humps along this section, I doubt a bus would achieve a great turn of speed - I'm sure if any of the NXWM drivers were driving other than in accordance with the prescribed limits then their Trafficlog reports would alert their depot management and a subsequent discussion would ensue.
20-25 maybe? Some drivers go pretty fast but not too fast.
If the 36 is struggling with the time how come network west Midlands didn't change the times to every hour
Waiting in Lyndon to ride the 32 to Shirley
11:30 complete no show, 12:30 also as at 12:45 when I gave up and caught the 58 instead
And then attempting the 10H, it came through Ladywood 45 late at 15:28 towards QE and didn't even stop for me. Now there's one sure fire way to make sure a route is withdrawn, don't bother picking up passengers so the numbers show no one uses it
Quote from: Kevin on November 08, 2019, 12:43:52 PM
Waiting in Lyndon to ride the 32 to Shirley
11:30 complete no show, 12:30 also as at 12:45 when I gave up and caught the 58 instead
And then attempting the 10H, it came through Ladywood 45 late at 15:28 towards QE and didn't even stop for me. Now there's one sure fire way to make sure a route is withdrawn, don't bother picking up passengers so the numbers show no one uses it
Disgraceful. Don't remember Igo having such problems when they ran the proper 10H. Funny how seniors of the forum ignore comments like this, yet there quick enough to critique any other time.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 08, 2019, 09:25:34 PM
Disgraceful. Don't remember Igo having such problems when they ran the proper 10H. Funny how seniors of the forum ignore comments like this, yet there quick enough to critique any other time.
Difficult to check what's going non when I am driving a bus down the My for 10 hours. How many days did you monitor the I go 10H to know they didn't have problems?
Quote from: Tony on November 08, 2019, 09:56:17 PM
Difficult to check what's going non when I am driving a bus down the My for 10 hours. How many days did you monitor the I go 10H to know they didn't have problems?
I used to travel on it pretty much everyday from QE to harborne, and it was only ever 5 minutes late
The X12 city bound through Castle Brom around 7:45pm was missing, leaving a 90 min gap in service
Never have I encountered such awful traffic as on the x22 too Woodgate this evening. Queuing all up the Quinton road, and then ended up queuing all the way up to the island near the ASDA. Ended up taking 30 mins from university to field lane.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 12, 2019, 07:14:55 PM
Never have I encountered such awful traffic as on the x22 too Woodgate this evening. Queuing all up the Quinton road, and then ended up queuing all the way up to the island near the ASDA. Ended up taking 30 mins from university to field lane.
Nothing new for the Quinton Road / Northfield Road really. Used to get quite bad from what I remember with the 22/23/29 getting stuck in it.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 12, 2019, 07:14:55 PM
Never have I encountered such awful traffic as on the x22 too Woodgate this evening. Queuing all up the Quinton road, and then ended up queuing all the way up to the island near the ASDA. Ended up taking 30 mins from university to field lane.
At least it's limited stop :D
2 and 3 have been in a right mess the last couple of days, not helped by four-way control temporary traffic lights being installed AGAIN at the Swanshurst Lane / Yardley Wood Road island. They were only supposed to be there until yesterday (13th) while Severn Trent carried out repairs, which were reported as 'complete' on the 12th, yet they were still up and in operation this evening. To make matters worse, ANOTHER set of temporary traffic lights have now appeared on Yardley Wood Road, just up from the entrance to Moseley Bog.
The 3 I got on this morning at 7:55am was already 23 minutes late, while the 3 I got home this evening - which I assumed was six minutes late when I got on in Sparkbrook - was showing as 26 minutes late when I got off in Billesley.
5 11A in a row, within 5 mins between first and last. Service is awful!
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 19, 2019, 08:58:12 AM
5 11A in a row, within 5 mins between first and last. Service is awful!
A bus route that crosses every single major trunk route into Birmingham at rush hour being late?
Never...
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 19, 2019, 08:58:12 AM
5 11A in a row, within 5 mins between first and last. Service is awful!
The 11 is a service that will never be properly reliable. That's just the nature of it. The only way to make it more reliable is by either having a hell of a lot bus priority measures built along the route or to split it up, into probably 3 routes.
As Kevin says, it crosses every major trunk road in Birmingham. If there's huge delays in say Erdington, that means (for example) Bearwood will suffer with the delays. To counter it, AVL adjust you, but there will always be gaps somewhere along the circle. In 2015, there'd always be at least two standby vehicles specifically for the 11, parked up at the front of AG depot and they'd be used as duplicates if and when required.
Quote from: MW on November 20, 2019, 11:28:34 AM
The 11 is a service that will never be properly reliable. That's just the nature of it. The only way to make it more reliable is by either having a hell of a lot bus priority measures built along the route or to split it up, into probably 3 routes.
As Kevin says, it crosses every major trunk road in Birmingham. If there's huge delays in say Erdington, that means (for example) Bearwood will suffer with the delays. To counter it, AVL adjust you, but there will always be gaps somewhere along the circle. In 2015, there'd always be at least two standby vehicles specifically for the 11, parked up at the front of AG depot and they'd be used as duplicates if and when required.
And not forgetting it is Trident 4194 posting!
Looking back on yesterday's running in the morning 04:00 until 12:00 only 3 11As left Bearwood outiside the TC's -1+5 minute window. So the service was on one of it's better days when he was complaning.
I cannot see anything suggesting there were 5 in 5 minutes.
The 08:23 left at 08:39
The 08:33 left at 08:42
The 08:43 left at 08:47
The 08:51 left at 08:52
The 08:59 left at 08:59
which is 5 buses in 20 minutes the closest I can find!
I used to use/rely on the 11 back in early WMPTE days and it was a nightmare then. However back then it was run by three main garages (AG, PB, Harborne) and in the peaks many short workings were run, effectively to improve reliability and minimise multiple layers of traffic disruption thus maintaining some level of reliability and covering the main areas of traffic demand. I guess they had more flexibility back then - even keeping one ex BCT standard parked in a conspicuous location at Fleetline only garages like Cotteridge, en route, to deter drivers of old vehicles on the 11 from asking for a change bus!!
If you're trying to make a regular commute journey and there is constant lateness (my morning 1st train commute is invariably several minutes late at the station I interchange at, resulting in me missing my connection and adding 10-15 mins to an already long journey) it can be pretty frustrating, even though you build that into your journey - if it happens at multiple points frustration quickly turns to anger.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 19, 2019, 08:58:12 AM
5 11A in a row, within 5 mins between first and last. Service is awful!
It seems that every single service you use is late or not running, no matter where in the West Midlands you are. You must be the unluckiest bus passenger ever!
Quote from: MW on November 20, 2019, 11:28:34 AM
The 11 is a service that will never be properly reliable. That's just the nature of it. The only way to make it more reliable is by either having a hell of a lot bus priority measures built along the route or to split it up, into probably 3 routes.
As Kevin says, it crosses every major trunk road in Birmingham. If there's huge delays in say Erdington, that means (for example) Bearwood will suffer with the delays. To counter it, AVL adjust you, but there will always be gaps somewhere along the circle. In 2015, there'd always be at least two standby vehicles specifically for the 11, parked up at the front of AG depot and they'd be used as duplicates if and when required.
That is something that I was thinking about. The 11 tends to have extremely terrible around school times. One time I had to wait 40 minutes for one. It can't run as it is it needs to be split. Where it can be split is a good question but it won't be suitable for this thread.
The 11s must be one of the hardest services to run, caught it couple of years ago & did a full circuit, left Perry Barr on time, arrived back 15 minutes late & this was 10am onwards, as mentioned the rote has a lot of bottlenecks, Soho Road can be fun, then add in City Hospital, Barewood, Selly Oak, Cotteridge, & a few others
Quote from: Crosville on November 20, 2019, 03:59:22 PM
The 11s must be one of the hardest services to run, caught it couple of years ago & did a full circuit, left Perry Barr on time, arrived back 15 minutes late & this was 10am onwards, as mentioned the rote has a lot of bottlenecks, Soho Road can be fun, then add in City Hospital, Barewood, Selly Oak, Cotteridge, & a few others
It's also the longest route in Europe don't forget. I heard it takes 3 hours to do a whole circuit. That's longer than a train ride to London! :D :D :D
Quote from: Busboy105 on November 20, 2019, 04:12:13 PM
It's also the longest route in Europe don't forget. I heard it takes 3 hours to do a whole circuit. That's longer than a train ride to London! :D :D :D
It's the longest urban area route in Europe ;) at 27 miles, it can take 3 hours in the peaks
file:///C:/Users/wirra/Downloads/National%20Express%20West%20Midlands_11A%20(1).pdf
file:///C:/Users/wirra/Downloads/National%20Express%20West%20Midlands_11C.pdf
Quote from: Crosville on November 20, 2019, 04:19:46 PM
It's the longest urban area route in Europe ;) at 27 miles, it can take 3 hours in the peaks
file:///C:/Users/wirra/Downloads/National%20Express%20West%20Midlands_11A%20(1).pdf
file:///C:/Users/wirra/Downloads/National%20Express%20West%20Midlands_11C.pdf
Your links don't work mate.
Quote from: Busboy105 on November 20, 2019, 04:12:13 PM
It's also the longest route in Europe don't forget. I heard it takes 3 hours to do a whole circuit. That's longer than a train ride to London! :D :D :D
Anywhere between 2 & 3 hours depending on the time. The best time was late evening, running about 5-8 mins late with a fast Gemini! Good times! I remember doing Acocks Green to Perry Barr on the 11C/E in 45 mins in a Plaxton President!
55 and 94 are operating very late this afternoon.
1827 turned up at Ward End, Fox and Goose at 13:50, 30 minutes late going to Chelmsley
1811 left the City Centre NIS, and presumably had been adjusted.
Due to heavy congestion on Jennens Road presumably.
Got off a 24 in Quinton at 6pm which was apparently 72 minutes late according to the ticket machine.
Last 51 tonight
Arrived in town 15 late with a slightly "redecorated" front platform. Driver couldn't even get out his cab, replacement vehicle on way but everyone's given up and got a taxi.
The perils of buses at night
Quote from: Kevin on November 24, 2019, 01:32:03 AM
Last 51 tonight
Arrived in town 15 late with a slightly "redecorated" front platform. Driver couldn't even get out his cab, replacement vehicle on way but everyone's given up and got a taxi.
The perils of buses at night
Actually left 50 late!
Good job it wasn't last week, as my bro & sis went to see Jack Whitehall!
Took the BY17 today. When I got off it was 22 minutes late according to the ticket machine. (I really don't know why this service is always late. It doesn't go on main roads like the 55, 60, 94 and 97. Maybe it's the time they leave Tile Cross maybe?)
Quote from: Busboy105 on November 25, 2019, 08:43:31 AM
Took the BY17 today. When I got off it was 22 minutes late according to the ticket machine. (I really don't know why this service is always late. It doesn't go on main roads like the 55, 60, 94 and 97. Maybe it's the time they leave Tile Cross maybe?)
From my own observations when I used to catch the 17 on occasion to get to Yardley Yew Tree:
1) to/from city, approaching Bordesley Circus, traffic congestion on Coventry Road
2) traffic in Small Heath, in particular along Coventry Road and Green Lane
3) traffic congestion in city centre and Digbeth
Quote from: Busboy105 on November 25, 2019, 08:43:31 AM
Took the BY17 today. When I got off it was 22 minutes late according to the ticket machine. (I really don't know why this service is always late. It doesn't go on main roads like the 55, 60, 94 and 97. Maybe it's the time they leave Tile Cross maybe?)
The bus you were on started fro Tile Cross 10 late (I don't know why), but presumably as you were on it you saw the traffic problems where it lost the other 12.
Quote from: Tony on November 25, 2019, 08:55:35 PM
The bus you were on started fro Tile Cross 10 late (I don't know why), but presumably as you were on it you saw the traffic problems where it lost the other 12.
There actually wasn't any traffic problems it's only after 8:15 am when the traffic piles up due to parents dropping kids off at school but apart from that, I don't know why in the mornings the reliability is poor.
WB 5 services are running up to an hour and half late due to a lane closure on Queslett Road
Yesterday evening, the 1705 28 service to Halesowen and the 1735 to Merry Hill both left Stourbridge at 1735 and followed each other. Presume the road works on the Grange were causing problems.
Quote from: Busboy105 on November 25, 2019, 09:13:49 PM
There actually wasn't any traffic problems it's only after 8:15 am when the traffic piles up due to parents dropping kids off at school but apart from that, I don't know why in the mornings the reliability is poor.
Maybe there given less time between timing points, bear in mind most routes get busy from around half 7
Quote from: Lukeee on November 26, 2019, 03:04:13 PM
Maybe there given less time between timing points, bear in mind most routes get busy from around half 7
They are given more time for that very reason, but how long did it take to get onto Coventry Road? How long did it take to get onto Bordesley Circus?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 26, 2019, 12:43:47 PM
Yesterday evening, the 1705 28 service to Halesowen and the 1735 to Merry Hill both left Stourbridge at 1735 and followed each other. Presume the road works on the Grange were causing problems.
three lots of roadworks on the pn 28 route grange road Stourbridge
Banners lane and colly gate all temp traffic lights
2 X20's to Cofton Hackett are currently leaving the City Centre together.
One is 6884 and the other is 6882.
Two number 8 services (Wollaston-Wrens Nest) ran together two days on the trot. 21021 & 2106? on Monday and 2102 & 2107 on Tuesday. I don't know how NXWM can say extendng it to Wolverhampton may have an effect on it having recovery time in Wolverhampton. As this seems to happen most time I catch it, which is quite a lot.
2 X70's left the City Centre within minutes of each other at around 13:00.
Was one of them very late, as the timetable shows that there are usually 30 - 40 minute gaps between buses? Or is the 12:50 journey normally operated by 2 buses?
The fleet numbers were 6840 and 6846.
Quote from: 2206 on November 28, 2019, 02:46:34 PM
2 X70's left the City Centre within minutes of each other at around 13:00.
Was one of them very late, as the timetable shows that there are usually 30 - 40 minute gaps between buses? Or is the 12:50 journey normally operated by 2 buses?
The fleet numbers were 6840 and 6846.
I'm saw this a few times around that time , I'm not sure but I think one goes into hams hill
Quote from: Jack6101 on November 28, 2019, 03:46:22 PM
I'm saw this a few times around that time , I'm not sure but I think one goes into hams hill
Four 24s in a row just left city, with a 5th 5 minutes behind. The 23/24 were running pretty well up until the latest Broad St closures but have gone to pot since.
Quote from: 2206 on November 28, 2019, 02:46:34 PM
2 X70's left the City Centre within minutes of each other at around 13:00.
Was one of them very late, as the timetable shows that there are usually 30 - 40 minute gaps between buses? Or is the 12:50 journey normally operated by 2 buses?
The fleet numbers were 6840 and 6846.
When I caught the X70 on Monday, 6846 was on an X70 to Coleshill Station & 4942 was on a full trip to Chelmsley Wood somaybe it is duplicated for the DHL shift workers?
@2206 Sorry it was 4942 not 4941
Quote from: Squiz1971 on November 28, 2019, 08:36:05 PM
When I caught the X70 on Monday, 6846 was on an X70 to Coleshill Station & 4941 was on a full trip to Chelmsley Wood somaybe it is duplicated for the DHL shift workers? @2206
numerous time a platinum x70 comes with the x70 that's due at 2:45 at park hall academy the platinum has all dhl workers on it so I think it's a shift bus
Quote from: 2206 on November 28, 2019, 02:46:34 PM
2 X70's left the City Centre within minutes of each other at around 13:00.
Was one of them very late, as the timetable shows that there are usually 30 - 40 minute gaps between buses? Or is the 12:50 journey normally operated by 2 buses?
The fleet numbers were 6840 and 6846.
6840 was the 12:50 departure, and 6847 was the duplicate in front of it, not 6846
Speaking of late running, are there still plans to allow out of city routes to use Bradford Street via the slip road opposite Digbeth police station - or did I dream that?
Yesterday evening the wait for the right turn into Rea Street was awful. Queue back up to the previous set of lights, cars deliberately trying to push in at the last minute, taxis blocking Rea Street.
Also the lights seemed to remain on red for far longer than the low amount of traffic coming into city via Digbeth warranted.
Quote from: cardew on November 29, 2019, 10:55:53 AM
Speaking of late running, are there still plans to allow out of city routes to use Bradford Street via the slip road opposite Digbeth police station - or did I dream that?
Yesterday evening the wait for the right turn into Rea Street was awful. Queue back up to the previous set of lights, cars deliberately trying to push in at the last minute, taxis blocking Rea Street.
Also the lights seemed to remain on red for far longer than the low amount of traffic coming into city via Digbeth warranted.
Don't think so. It's been 4 years since they've implemented that one-way system to ease traffic on Digbeth so I don't think it will change.
Speaking of Digbeth, the traffic was terrible today; saw back to back 60s and a 17 that were going to terminate at Yardley.
80s weren't doing to well either me and 4752 was an hour late by the time we got to WB. With plenty of 80E to five ways.
Quote from: WB Driver on November 29, 2019, 02:09:36 PM
80s weren't doing to well either me and 4752 was an hour late by the time we got to WB. With plenty of 80E to five ways.
University corridor seemed to be running with long gaps in service and delays earlier today.
2 X22's left the City Centre together at about 14:40, 6838 on a X22 short to California and 6851 on a full X22 to Woodgate.
Also saw an 80E to Cape Hill.
There were also notices on the stops that lots of services are running late today, due to congestion in Birmingham City Centre.
Most routes that went through merry hill today suffered delay due to traffic
service pn28 had 5 lots of road works on it
Pn8 suffered bad today and they are planning to send it to Wolverhampton mmm
55,94,66,14,X12,X70 heavy delays due to park lane traffic
Quote from: SK68MEV on November 30, 2019, 04:43:35 PM
55,94,66,14,X12,X70 heavy delays due to park lane traffic
4525 was running 55 minutes late at around 18:00 on a 94E to Ward End from Birmingham City Centre.
9 seemed to be playing up this afternoon after 13:10. A 9 was to arrive at 13:24 which would be on time, but the one before seemed to be about 8-10 minutes late.
The 997'E' was playing up as well, 6728 arrived with 6744 coming and leaving with no people. This route is getting worse, you wait anywhere on the route and nothing will turn up for 15 mins and then 2 or 3 arrive together. Doesn't help that people who wish to travel beyond the Pheasey are stuck in Birmingham for ages as they keep on getting shortened to the Pheasey. You'd think that the number that go to Pheasey would help it but no, the interworking with the X51 is the problem, the Scott Arms is just dreadful lately.
@Trident 4194, haven't heard you complain about the 9 for a while...
The 9 ain't too bad I suppose. Only at peak times but luckily I Sometimes have to wait about 5 mins and 3 come along at once. Lye High street hasn't helped this week though
There were 2 ☓21s running into Woodcock Hill at around 8pm yesterday evening. Both left towards town within a few minutes of each other too for some reason.
Anyone who wants to take the 17 and the 73 is going to experience huge delays because of the Hob Moor Road gasworks. They are doing it in the same place as they did earlier this year.
Quote from: Busboy105 on December 08, 2019, 01:06:18 PM
Anyone who wants to take the 17 and the 73 is going to experience huge delays because of the Hob Moor Road gasworks. They are doing it in the same place as they did earlier this year.
No major late running on the 17 at the moment
Quote from: Tony on December 08, 2019, 02:02:10 PM
No major late running on the 17 at the moment
Not today because it's Sunday, but in the weekdays the reliability is going to be dashed out the window.
What gets me with this interworking is, I understand why they do it, but why do it with routes that serve different areas completely like the X51 & 997?
I'd say use routes that run fairly close together, but, given my past experiences with the Dudley to Walsall corridor, it doesn't always work!
Quote from: Westy on December 08, 2019, 08:49:18 PM
What gets me with this interworking is, I understand why they do it, but why do it with routes that serve different areas completely like the X51 & 997?
I'd say use routes that run fairly close together, but, given my past experiences with the Dudley to Walsall corridor, it doesn't always work!
Probably because they operate from the same garage. That's the only logical explanation why they inter work.
Quote from: Busboy105 on December 08, 2019, 10:58:12 PM
Probably because they operate from the same garage. That's the only logical explanation why they inter work.
Plus being same frequencies helps, & short 997Es would be some distance from Walsall depot to make driver changes, so assume NXWM think it's more cost effective by interworking the routes 997/997E with X51, same in my area Arriva Birkenhead depot interwork most of the cross river routes to save on driver changes from distant location, as the routes they interwork pass the depot.
997/X51 interworking was introduced because of long driving times on 997.
When the 997 revisions in June 2013 was introduced a driver would do a 5hr plus round trip. The trip was
997 Walsall to Birmingham
997E to Pheasey
997 to Birmingham
997E to Pheasey
997 to Birmingham
997 to Walsall
Basic daytime round trip of 5hr. Peak hour could extend to 05h30. In 2015 997 began interworking with X51 to reduce driving time. The only long interworking now is 934 937 loop a round trip of 4hrs.
Quote from: PB2938 on December 09, 2019, 07:36:15 PM
997/X51 interworking was introduced because of long driving times on 997.
When the 997 revisions in June 2013 was introduced a driver would do a 5hr plus round trip. The trip was
997 Walsall to Birmingham
997E to Pheasey
997 to Birmingham
997E to Pheasey
997 to Birmingham
997 to Walsall
Basic daytime round trip of 5hr. Peak hour could extend to 05h30. In 2015 997 began interworking with X51 to reduce driving time. The only long interworking now is 934 937 loop a round trip of 4hrs.
The 997 and X51 started interworking in late 2014, which was when they debrandded the 997's E400's and X51's Gemini's.
University routes seem to be very unreliable this evenining.
6888 was at University, 50 minutes late on an X21 to Woodcock Hill at around 17:20. Also had to leave passengers behind in the City Centre as it got too full.
Also had a 30 minute wait for these routes towards the City Centre, the driver who turned up on 6949 at 17:50 at University, kept sounding the horn and shouting that the bus was too full and there's no room for anyone else to get on. He was also claiming that its a frequent service and there are more buses behind him, though from what I can see there wasn't.
Ended up leaving loads of people behind.
Haha the joys of the university routes. Caught x22 from university to Bartley green. 7515 ended up 33 minutes late by the time we got to field lane. I do feel sorry for the drivers ngl. The whole route is practically a car park constantly in the evening.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 10, 2019, 07:48:24 PM
Haha the joys of the university routes. Caught x22 from university to Bartley green. 7515 ended up 33 minutes late by the time we got to field lane. I do feel sorry for the drivers ngl. The whole route is practically a car park constantly in the evening.
For anyone travelling between the city and Bartley Green they would honestly be better off catching the 23 than the X22. With all the diversions in place the 23 isn't running well right now but buses are generally running between around 5 and 15 minutes late, rather than the ridiculously late running on the Uni routes. Plus it's far more frequent. I feel for people living along the likes of Quinton Road, Jiggins Lane and in Kitwell, having you rely on the X22.
Quote from: 2206 on December 10, 2019, 07:05:04 PM
University routes seem to be very unreliable this evenining.
6888 was at University, 50 minutes late on an X21 to Woodcock Hill at around 17:20. Also had to leave passengers behind in the City Centre as it got too full.
Also had a 30 minute wait for these routes towards the City Centre, the driver who turned up on 6949 at 17:50 at University, kept sounding the horn and shouting that the bus was too full and there's no room for anyone else to get on. He was also claiming that its a frequent service and there are more buses behind him, though from what I can see there wasn't.
Ended up leaving loads of people behind.
I was on the one behind 6888, which was running near enough empty. At least that may explain why. It's very common though. I don't know what happens to that 16:38 X21 departure from City but it is
always late running even before it gets into Priory Queensway coming off whatever it changes from.
Safe to say though that the general reliability of these routes is quite appalling at the moment.
Quote from: MasterPlan on December 10, 2019, 08:12:21 PM
I was on the one behind 6888, which was running near enough empty. At least that may explain why. It's very common though. I don't know what happens to that 16:38 X21 departure from City but it is always late running even before it gets into Priory Queensway coming off whatever it changes from.
Safe to say though that the general reliability of these routes is quite appalling at the moment.
They have no time is the problem. Stand on priory Queensway the board saying due and it's not even in sight getting up. Then you've got another 2 minutes+ whilst those awful lights change at the bottom to let them up. Then going back down you got another 2+ minutes at the lights. And they seem to change drivers in peak rush hour too, 4pm ish
Couldnt 61/63/X20/X21/X22 go up carrs lane to avoid the traffic lights on way in 3rd exit at old sqaure to come onto priory queensway???
Quote from: Jack D on December 10, 2019, 08:25:51 PM
Couldnt 61/63/X20/X21/X22 go up carrs lane to avoid the traffic lights on way in 3rd exit at old sqaure to come onto priory queensway???
So have to stop at the traffic lights at the top of Carrs Lane, stop at the traffic lights at the top of Upper Bull Street, then have to squeeze past the Harbornes & Suttons which quite often delays the 51s etc going out?
Quote from: Tony on December 10, 2019, 08:37:25 PM
So have to stop at the traffic lights at the top of Carrs Lane, stop at the traffic lights at the top of Upper Bull Street, then have to squeeze past the Harbornes & Suttons which quite often delays the 51s etc going out?
Is there anything you can do with those lights? Have them on faster sequence?? They seem to take forever? Why do the x1/x2 services also do that thing where they go to go left and then swerve round the traffic lights continuing on?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 10, 2019, 08:49:14 PM
Why do the x1/x2 services also do that thing where they go to go left and then swerve round the traffic lights continuing on?
It's called a bus gate. That is the proper route
Quote from: Tony on December 10, 2019, 09:31:02 PM
It's called a bus gate. That is the proper route
Damn is that a bus gate? I've always done that in my car lol. Quicker than waiting in the traffic with the rest pmsl.
Them lights are really annoying for the 16 particularly heading towards the markets as when you finally get through on green you often get caught at the next set also (unless your Diamond who sometimes like to run red lights lol)
City Centre is gridlocked this evening. There'll be lots of late running services everywhere. Seen 4 number 7s in and around City just.
Quote from: MasterPlan on December 12, 2019, 05:56:53 PM
City Centre is gridlocked this evening. There'll be lots of late running services everywhere. Seen 4 number 7s in and around City just.
The 3 I got home this evening (1913) was 37 minutes late according to the POS screen as I got off. Got on at about 18:10 and foolishly assumed it was the 18:00 journey ten minutes late. ::)
Eased my annoyance somewhat as another 3 (4382) had gone straight past me just a couple of minutes earlier, though it didn't look that full.
Quote from: MasterPlan on December 12, 2019, 05:56:53 PM
City Centre is gridlocked this evening. There'll be lots of late running services everywhere. Seen 4 number 7s in and around City just.
Took me nearly 45 minutes to get down the Expressway into City
Quote from: MasterPlan on December 12, 2019, 05:56:53 PM
City Centre is gridlocked this evening. There'll be lots of late running services everywhere. Seen 4 number 7s in and around City just.
I heard over a radio call that it was due to a broken down Arriva bus at the Children's Hospital. I think it was 4600 by the looks of it...But literally everything was stuck around Old Square etc for 20 minutes...
Quote from: Michael Bevan on December 13, 2019, 09:11:35 AM
I heard over a radio call that it was due to a broken down Arriva bus at the Children's Hospital. I think it was 4600 by the looks of it...But literally everything was stuck around Old Square etc for 20 minutes...
Constitution Hill was the same. I just got off the 16 and walked.
6839 was operating 30 minutes late on the 10H today.
Yesterday around 2pm, 6109 & 6941 were following each other on the 12 to Dudley, on Warley Road
Not sure what's caused it this time but Priory Queensway and Old Square have become gridlocked again.
The Pagoda Island was like a car park at half 2 this afternoon nothing moved for a good 5 minutes as every exit was blocked. I was on an 80 and had to run dead back to WB to avoid being RTA'd.
Quote from: WB Driver on December 19, 2019, 06:27:13 PM
The Pagoda Island was like a car park at half 2 this afternoon nothing moved for a good 5 minutes as every exit was blocked. I was on an 80 and had to run dead back to WB to avoid being RTA'd.
RTA'd, can you please explain what this term means. Assume something to do with being out of hours.
Think it's rta running time allowed u do so many hours before you have to have break which is legaled required
As a bus driver, you can drive no more than 5hr30 without a 30 min break (sometimes 45 mins, depending on other stuff)
If it's approaching 5 hours and he's still in City, it leaves him 30 mins to get back to his relief point. (West Bromwich presumably). He has to run dead to make it.
If it gets to 5hr 30, and he's still in City, his depot will have to send someone over to a) pick him up and b) pick the bus up. He then must have his break (which must be an actual break with access to toilets/food, and not just on the journey back to depot by his colleague); something which NX tried to put onto me to which I put my middle finger up to them.
Quote from: MW on December 19, 2019, 11:57:17 PM
As a bus driver, you can drive no more than 5hr30 without a 30 min break (sometimes 45 mins, depending on other stuff)
If it's approaching 5 hours and he's still in City, it leaves him 30 mins to get back to his relief point. (West Bromwich presumably). He has to run dead to make it.
If it gets to 5hr 30, and he's still in City, his depot will have to send someone over to a) pick him up and b) pick the bus up. He then must have his break (which must be an actual break with access to toilets/food, and not just on the journey back to depot by his colleague); something which NX tried to put onto me to which I put my middle finger up to them.
Not correct
Quote from: metrocity on December 20, 2019, 06:54:56 AM
Not correct
So correct me then. What use is your post to anyone if all you say is Not correct.
Quote from: MW on December 20, 2019, 07:27:32 AM
So correct me then. What use is your post to anyone if all you say is Not correct.
After 5 hours 30 minutes of driving you must take a break of at least 30 minutes for rest and refreshment.
Or, within any period of 8 hours 30 minutes, you must take at least 45 minutes in breaks. You must also have a break of at least 30 minutes at the end of this period, unless it's the end of the working day.
https://www.gov.uk/drivers-hours/gb-domestic-rules
Quote from: metrocity on December 20, 2019, 07:48:25 AM
After 5 hours 30 minutes of driving you must take a break of at least 30 minutes for rest and refreshment.
Or, within any period of 8 hours 30 minutes, you must take at least 45 minutes in breaks. You must also have a break of at least 30 minutes at the end of this period, unless it's the end of the working day.
https://www.gov.uk/drivers-hours/gb-domestic-rules
Lmao so which bit of my post was incorrect?
I said 'sometimes 45 mins depending on other stuff,' in reference to the 8hr30 min rule, but in the spirit of trying to keep the explanation simple and easy to understand for non drivers, I said it how I said it.
I then gave a scenario as to when a driver might be RTA'd.
Tell me which bit is incorrect.
Quote from: MW on December 20, 2019, 09:15:49 AM
Lmao so which bit of my post was incorrect?
I said 'sometimes 45 mins depending on other stuff,' in reference to the 8hr30 min rule, but in the spirit of trying to keep the explanation simple and easy to understand for non drivers, I said it how I said it.
I then gave a scenario as to when a driver might be RTA'd.
Tell me which bit is incorrect.
Your post states that after 5 hours 30 minutes then the driver needs to take a break. That is not correct. You can drive up to 8 hours 30 minutes.
Quote from: metrocity on December 20, 2019, 01:53:31 PM
Your post states that after 5 hours 30 minutes then the driver needs to take a break. That is not correct. You can drive up to 8 hours 30 minutes.
Lmao I'm guessing you're not a driver? Ask any of the bus drivers on this forum if they can drive 8hr 30 in one sitting 😂😂😂
Within an 8hour 30 period, you must take at least 45 mins break is what it actually says. The 5hr 30 still applies.
I'll give you an example.
09:00 : Start driving
14:30 : BREAK - 5 hours 30 reached. You now must take a minimum of 30 mins break.
15:00 : Resume driving
17:15 : BREAK- 8hrs 15 reached. You must now take a minimum of 15 mins break.
17:30 : BREAK - 8 hours 30 reached. You must now take a minimum of 30 mins break, as you've reached the end of the 8 hour 30 period.
18:00 : Resume driving
20:15 : End of driving - 10 hours driving reached.
As far as I understand, the above complies with GB Domestic rules.
Total driving time is 10 hours
Total breaks is 1 hour 15 mins.
Total shift (09:00 till 20:15) is 11 hours 15 mins.
Driving 8 hours and 30 mins without a single break, which is what you're saying, is illegal.
Quote from: MW on December 20, 2019, 02:11:06 PM
Lmao I'm guessing you're not a driver? Ask any of the bus drivers on this forum if they can drive 8hr 30 in one sitting 😂😂😂
Within an 8hour 30 period, you must take at least 45 mins break is what it actually says. The 5hr 30 still applies.
I'll give you an example.
09:00 : Start driving
14:30 : BREAK - 5 hours 30 reached. You now must take a minimum of 30 mins break.
15:00 : Resume driving
17:15 : BREAK- 8hrs 15 reached. You must now take a minimum of 15 mins break.
17:30 : BREAK - 8 hours 30 reached. You must now take a minimum of 30 mins break, as you've reached the end of the 8 hour 30 period.
18:00 : Resume driving
20:15 : End of driving - 10 hours driving reached.
As far as I understand, the above complies with GB Domestic rules.
Total driving time is 10 hours
Total breaks is 1 hour 15 mins.
Total shift (09:00 till 20:15) is 11 hours 15 mins.
Driving 8 hours and 30 mins without a single break, which is what you're saying, is illegal.
I suggest you ask your employer if you can sit the relevant DCPC module as you clearly lack a basic understanding of the rules
Quote from: metrocity on December 20, 2019, 02:19:41 PM
I suggest you ask your employer if you can sit the relevant DCPC module as you clearly lack a basic understanding of the rules
So educate me then.
You're telling me that as a bus driver, I can drive in service for 8.5 hours without a break?
It is 5 hours 30 minutes the legal maximum driving time then need a minimum 30 minute break after that before driving again. Driving for that amount of time in terms of concentration is hard enough, doing it for 8 hours non stop would be dangerous. Think you have misunderstood there metro city!
Quote from: MW on December 20, 2019, 02:22:48 PM
So educate me then.
You're telling me that as a bus driver, I can drive in service for 8.5 hours without a break?
No but they can drive 7 hours 45 minutes and then take a 45 minute break. Aslong as there are 45 minutes worth of breaks in an 8 hour 30 minute period
Lots of late running services today on all corriodors
6837 was running 40 minutes late on the X22 at about 13:30 today. Heavily overcrowded and carrying passengers on the platform, stairs. Also rammed full of King Edward Five Ways school kids who seemed to have finished early today. So was unable to pick anyone up at University and the QE.
4801 was running 30 minutes late at about 13:30 on the 94 today. Driver took over the wrong bus and was blocking the X20's off their stand for a short time.
The driver who then took over 4801 who should have had it got on complaigning that he had to wait an hour in Erdington for the X3/X4/X5/66.
Quote from: metrocity on December 20, 2019, 03:09:36 PM
No but they can drive 7 hours 45 minutes and then take a 45 minute break. Aslong as there are 45 minutes worth of breaks in an 8 hour 30 minute period
You're right. I've been reading the rules again, and whilst they focus on the 5hr 30 + 30 min break, the alternative is 8hr 30 + 45 min break. I apologise. In my defence, this is what I was taught at NX. Whilst the rules may permit you to actually drive 7 hr 45 in one sitting, in the real world I've not come across a company who have such a duty before. The safety of somebody driving for 7 hour 45 min is something I definitely do not agree with, but that's besides the point.
Thank you for explaining.
Quote from: MW on December 20, 2019, 03:40:04 PM
You're right. I've been reading the rules again, and whilst they focus on the 5hr 30 + 30 min break, the alternative is 8hr 30 + 45 min break. I apologise. In my defence, this is what I was taught at NX. Whilst the rules may permit you to actually drive 7 hr 45 in one sitting, in the real world I've not come across a company who have such a duty before. The safety of somebody driving for 7 hour 45 min is something I definitely do not agree with, but that's besides the point.
Thank you for explaining.
No problem. If you look at a number of TFWM tendered routes, the timetable is designed to fit around this rule, so operators have the option of costing a tender with 1 driver should they wish to do so. I agree with you that it's not safe to drive continuously for such a period
Quote from: metrocity on December 20, 2019, 04:02:47 PM
No problem. If you look at a number of TFWM tendered routes, the timetable is designed to fit around this rule, so operators have the option of costing a tender with 1 driver should they wish to do so. I agree with you that it's not safe to drive continuously for such a period
Ahh yes I see. Basically the routes that tend to operate between 09:00 - 15:00 is what you're referring to?
Using the 69 as an example (Solihull - Brandwood End), both buses begin service at 09:34, and Bus 1 appears to finish at Solihull at 14:32. Bus 2 appears to finish at Brandwood End at 15:25.
Bus 1 has been driven in service for 4 hr 58
Bus 2 has been driven in service for 5 hr 49.
Let's focus on Bus 2. So theoretically, if we add an hour onto Bus 2 (to and from depot), you can have that bus being driven by the same driver all day (total of 6 hr 49), and when they return to depot at the end, give them a 45 min break and then sign off.
Am I correct?
Quote from: MW on December 20, 2019, 04:19:52 PM
Ahh yes I see. Basically the routes that tend to operate between 09:00 - 15:00 is what you're referring to?
Using the 69 as an example (Solihull - Brandwood End), both buses begin service at 09:34, and Bus 1 appears to finish at Solihull at 14:32. Bus 2 appears to finish at Brandwood End at 15:25.
Bus 1 has been driven in service for 4 hr 58
Bus 2 has been driven in service for 5 hr 49.
Let's focus on Bus 2. So theoretically, if we add an hour onto Bus 2 (to and from depot), you can have that bus being driven by the same driver all day (total of 6 hr 49), and when they return to depot at the end, give them a 45 min break and then sign off.
Am I correct?
breaks at termini also don't count as driving time
Quote from: MW on December 20, 2019, 04:19:52 PM
Ahh yes I see. Basically the routes that tend to operate between 09:00 - 15:00 is what you're referring to?
Using the 69 as an example (Solihull - Brandwood End), both buses begin service at 09:34, and Bus 1 appears to finish at Solihull at 14:32. Bus 2 appears to finish at Brandwood End at 15:25.
Bus 1 has been driven in service for 4 hr 58
Bus 2 has been driven in service for 5 hr 49.
Let's focus on Bus 2. So theoretically, if we add an hour onto Bus 2 (to and from depot), you can have that bus being driven by the same driver all day (total of 6 hr 49), and when they return to depot at the end, give them a 45 min break and then sign off.
Am I correct?
The 69 operates as a 50 before hand
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 20, 2019, 04:38:32 PM
The 69 operates as a 50 before hand
Yes, I know in reality it does. I'm talking hypothetically if "Company A" were to win a route like the 69. I know full well that both buses on the 69 operate on the 50 during peaks.
Quote from: Tony on December 20, 2019, 04:24:05 PM
breaks at termini also don't count as driving time
Whilst they don't count as driving time, they don't count as breaks either. Or am I mistaken?
Again in reference to the 69. It's timetabled to arrive at the terminus at XX:29, and then depart at XX:34. These 5 mins (provided it's running on time, can't be accumulated say after 3 trips to equate to a 15 minute break, right?
Quote from: MW on December 20, 2019, 04:56:43 PM
Whilst they don't count as driving time, they don't count as breaks either. Or am I mistaken?
Again in reference to the 69. It's timetabled to arrive at the terminus at XX:29, and then depart at XX:34. These 5 mins (provided it's running on time, can't be accumulated say after 3 trips to equate to a 15 minute break, right?
If the driver in theory can turn the engine off and step away from the wheel then they count towards the 45 minutes
Driving hours rules can be complicated especially if you start mixing domestic & eu hours. The maximum amount of hours that you can drive in any 24 hour period is 10. If driving straight through. I.e little to no layover then the maximum you can do in one portion is 5 1/2 hours. This can be extended to 8 1/2 hours if the driver gets an accumulated break of 45 mins I.e 15 mins 3 times in the portion layover etc The driver MUST then have a 30 min rest unless it's at the end of his working day.
Quote from: Steveminor on December 20, 2019, 06:17:36 PM
Driving hours rules can be complicated especially if you start mixing domestic & eu hours. The maximum amount of hours that you can drive in any 24 hour period is 10. If driving straight through. I.e little to no layover then the maximum you can do in one portion is 5 1/2 hours. This can be extended to 8 1/2 hours if the driver gets an accumulated break of 45 mins I.e 15 mins 3 times in the portion layover etc The driver MUST then have a 30 min rest unless it's at the end of his working day.
How come diamond drivers work for 12 hours + not including breaks
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 21, 2019, 02:27:44 AM
How come diamond drivers work for 12 hours + not including breaks
It's legal for your duty to be up to 16 hours. It's illegal for your driving time to exceed 10 hours.
11A service seems to be running late this afternoon.
Saw a convey of 4 in Ward End at about 13:10.
6136 was running 27 minutes late, at Ward End at about 13:55. Then there is a 20 minute gap between 6136 and the next one.
And another 20 minute gap at 15:15 for the 11A at the minute, which was 6137.
3 ☓21s in the space of a few mins. 1 only going to University Station, 1 to Weoley Castle and 1 to Woodcock Hill. Shambles.
But don't worry, the timetables will be altered slightly in January, so all good...
Quote from: MasterPlan on December 23, 2019, 05:56:19 PM
3 ☓21s in the space of a few mins. 1 only going to University Station, 1 to Weoley Castle and 1 to Woodcock Hill. Shambles.
But don't worry, the timetables will be altered slightly in January, so all good...
No timetable would be able to cope with city traffic today
All services around cradley heath interchange are subject to delay due to burst water main right outside it
Services to merry hill using interchange
Services from merry hill using bus stop over the road by tyre place
Work expected for five days
30827 has just took a very healthy load to blackheath as a result of 2 4Hs in convoy heading to Hayley green
6881 & 6884 in convoy along Gregory Avenue towards City on the ☓21, with 6886 going the other way not far from the terminus either.
Quote from: MasterPlan on January 10, 2020, 03:56:03 PM
6881 & 6884 in convoy along Gregory Avenue towards City on the ☓21, with 6886 going the other way not far from the terminus either.
2 is hardly a 'convoy'.
Quote from: Gareth on January 10, 2020, 05:53:14 PM
2 is hardly a 'convoy'.
Far from ideal on an every 20 minute service though.
What shît show they performing on the 4H this morning. 1862 ran past in Hayley green NIS before starting up at terminus in lutley lane. 1845 is parked in Halesowen bus station don't know what doing. Meanwhile all diamonds run within 5 mins of schedule all morning
Birchfield Road buses and the 11's are running extremely late because the African Village (Crown and Cushion) is in a massive blaze. From what I've seen and heard a 33, 51 and 907 are stranded outbound on the island...
Quote from: Jack on January 14, 2020, 05:03:20 PM
Birchfield Road buses and the 11's are running extremely late because the African Village (Crown and Cushion) is in a massive blaze. From what I've seen and heard a 33, 51 and 907 are stranded outbound on the island...
I must have went through on the 907 about 10 mins before it all started. Heard the first call saying smoke causing reduced visibility then a few minutes later stating diversions. Must have developed quickly as there was no sign of fire when I went past
Was only 10 minutes late finishing at 5pm, coming from Sutton, but bet coming from City would have been worse
Since the 45 transferred to Walsall have noticed it's reliability has gone out the window. For example this morning one came into WB and want straight out empty followed by one in service a couple of minutes later. And have just passed two on Hallam Street with in a minute of each other both going to WB.
Odd one today, had to go to Russells Hall Hospital and noticed a single and double decker following each other on the 2A routte.
After I had finished the appointment, the 2 buses were again observed following each other, strange?
@Tony what happened to the 11:55 4H exiting Halesowen for Hayley green. Was missing again today. How you get away with such a shambolic service baffles me
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 15, 2020, 05:37:05 PM
@Tony what happened to the 11:55 4H exiting Halesowen for Hayley green. Was missing again today. How you get away with such a shambolic service baffles me
I see you are copying Mr Jones wording exactly now, and then expect a reply, well sorry, No.
I will reply to people who don't try to be clever.
Quote from: Tony on January 15, 2020, 06:00:06 PM
I see you are copying Mr Jones wording exactly now, and then expect a reply, well sorry, No.
I will reply to people who don't try to be clever.
No, you will reply whenever you can prove someone wrong. Always first to tell me if I was mistaken. So I've learnt by now that you not piping up is practically admitting the service is awful
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 15, 2020, 07:56:13 PM
No, you will reply whenever you can prove someone wrong. Always first to tell me if I was mistaken. So I've learnt by now that you not piping up is practically admitting the service is awful
No, that journey didn't run. It was the only 4 H that didn't today.
Did all Diamond's run?
Quote from: Tony on January 15, 2020, 08:18:39 PM
No, that journey didn't run. It was the only 4 H that didn't today.
Did all Diamond's run?
To my knowledge yes. Certainly did all day anyway.
Late running services on hagley road tonight took 35-40 mins from colmore row to five ways island on 6103 on 126
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 15, 2020, 08:35:46 PM
To my knowledge yes. Certainly did all day anyway.
I'd love to know how you know that!
Quote from: Tony on January 15, 2020, 08:47:36 PM
I'd love to know how you know that!
billy x8 told him
Quote from: karl724223 on January 15, 2020, 08:51:58 PM
billy x8 told him
Sadly not as I am not at work this week and have no need of the X8 so all is good with the world!
Quote from: Jack6101 on January 15, 2020, 08:36:49 PM
Late running services on hagley road tonight took 35-40 mins from colmore row to five ways island on 6103 on 126
Temporary lights on Grosvenor St West and 4901 broken down immediately in front of them wasn't helping matters tonight; having said that my 23 was only 10 mins late by the time I got off.
Quote from: Mike K on January 15, 2020, 10:49:42 PM
Temporary lights on Grosvenor St West and 4901 broken down immediately in front of them wasn't helping matters tonight; having said that my 23 was only 10 mins late by the time I got off.
Yess could see a bus but the bus I was on couldn't see out the windows , ( steamy) and I got off the
Bus it was 44 mins late and the 126 was still rammed normally quiet by thr time I get off it
4901 came past me on Colmore Row NIS around 5pm yesterday (no doubt there's an explanation as to why it wasn't in service.....and why it was then parked or broken down on Grosvenor Street to add to the issues with the traffic yesterday evening)
Don't know what the cause is but the 14s appear to be in a spot of bother this afternoon.
The "Chelmsley Wood 14E" display still makes me laugh though. Must be the most unhelpful display going right now.
Quote from: MasterPlan on January 17, 2020, 04:25:29 PM
Don't know what the cause is but the 14s appear to be in a spot of bother this afternoon.
The "Chelmsley Wood 14E" display still makes me laugh though. Must be the most unhelpful display going right now.
What about the 11E to Acocks Green?
Around 22:50 there was two X8's by Quinton Stag both heading for Wolverhampton
Quote from: OH25 on January 19, 2020, 11:25:08 PM
Around 22:50 there was two X8's by Quinton Stag both heading for Wolverhampton
That is not a surprise is it on such a rottern totally incomptent bus route run by on operator not fit for purpose I once had the last X8 on Sunday due at 23.57 at The Stag 90mins late yes 90mins late after coming out of The Stag Sizzler how anyone can defend the X8 on this forum is beyond me! well
@Tony and other WN staff what's your latest excuse for this observation it looks to me total incompetence from your so called bus company? Ha Ha bus company I do like a good laugh- How much longer must Blackheath put up with this total incompetence for the good people of Blackheath it's no laughing matter perhaps the answer is to put a clapped out old Trident on the route in a stupid forgotten livery no one bothers about that will do nicely wont it well thats the answer from West Midlands Travel isnt it?
Birmingham arena had strictly come dancing was on so increase in traffic there which would of had a knock on affect same with football buses are diverted due to safety making them late as well both out of nx bus hands
Quote from: richardjones210368 on January 20, 2020, 01:17:19 AM
That is not a surprise is it on such a rottern totally incomptent bus route run by on operator not fit for purpose I once had the last X8 on Sunday due at 23.57 at The Stag 90mins late yes 90mins late after coming out of The Stag Sizzler how anyone can defend the X8 on this forum is beyond me! well @Tony and other WN staff what's your latest excuse for this observation it looks to me total incompetence from your so called bus company? Ha Ha bus company I do like a good laugh- How much longer must Blackheath put up with this total incompetence for the good people of Blackheath it's no laughing matter perhaps the answer is to put a clapped out old Trident on the route in a stupid forgotten livery no one bothers about that will do nicely wont it well thats the answer from West Midlands Travel isnt it?
There's a company running buses across the West Midlands in 'a forgotten livery' of Hansons, Central and Wessex. Any idea what the company is called? At least NXWM buses are in previous liveries of the company not still in liveries of companies taken over years ago!
Have just counted a total of seven 74s passing through Hockley Circus, within the space of 5 minutes, with all but one carrying on into the City Centre - the exception terminated at Hockley
Quote from: fleetline6477 on January 20, 2020, 10:39:09 PM
There's a company running buses across the West Midlands in 'a forgotten livery' of Hansons, Central and Wessex. Any idea what the company is called? At least NXWM buses are in previous liveries of the company not still in liveries of companies taken over years ago!
Is it The Birmingham Coach Company Limited that's another forgotten company name running them? Mind you remember there is a NXWM bus regularly on the X8 in a livery 51 years out of date so pluss a Blue & Cream B7 straight out of 1977 so isnt that a bit of pot and kettle?
Quote from: richardjones210368 on January 22, 2020, 10:02:40 AM
Is it The Birmingham Coach Company? Mind you remember there is a NXWM bus regularly on the X8 in a livery 51 years out of date so pluss a Blue & Cream B7 straight out of 1977 so isnt that a bit of pot and kettle?
they are heritage livery ones
Quote from: richardjones210368 on January 22, 2020, 10:02:40 AM
Is it The Birmingham Coach Company Limited that's another forgotten company name running them? Mind you remember there is a NXWM bus regularly on the X8 in a livery 51 years out of date so pluss a Blue & Cream B7 straight out of 1977 so isnt that a bit of pot and kettle?
So they are heritage liveries hun. NX especially painted them to remember those by gone days. Hanson's bus, central buses and Wessex buses still in their old companies liveries and several in each looking scruffy. I mean diamond could of got the ones repainted in 3 years? NX repaints up to 20 at a time?
Diamond are focusing on their NW ops trying to get those buses into livery just wished they focused on getting their uniform livery done in the West Midlands
Quote from: CL on January 22, 2020, 09:20:44 AM
Have just counted a total of seven 74s passing through Hockley Circus, within the space of 5 minutes, with all but one carrying on into the City Centre - the exception terminated at Hockley
About the norm for the 74.
Quote from: MasterPlan on January 22, 2020, 10:25:23 AM
About the norm for the 74.
Don't think the M5 roadworks help unless they are finished now?
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on January 22, 2020, 10:37:05 AM
Don't think the M5 roadworks help unless they are finished now?
They was completed before Xmas too 3 lanes in each direction
4822, 101E Handsworth - shortly followed by 4827, also running a 101E
Quote from: CL on January 22, 2020, 02:44:53 PM
4822, 101E Handsworth - shortly followed by 4827, also running a 101E
They all are due to roadworks
Tracker states the 9:05 28 from Halesowen is running 55 minute late. Why was this service so late
@Tony? It's an hourly service
23 and 24 in a terrible state yesterday evening and today due to roadworks and temporary lights at the White Swan on Harborne Road.
6891 was running 36 minutes late when I got off earlier. Quite a few short workings coming from city.
☓21 a shambles again this morning with both the 7am and 7:12am buses turning up at 7:12am.
Might not seem like much of a difference but at this time of the morning it's the difference between being on time for work and late.
Quote from: MasterPlan on February 11, 2020, 07:19:08 AM
☓21 a shambles again this morning with both the 7am and 7:12am buses turning up at 7:12am.
Might not seem like much of a difference but at this time of the morning it's the difference between being on time for work and late.
Maybe it's better to give yourself a larger window than 12 minutes for being to work on time. You regularly post about issues with these routes, so maybe you should leave a little earlier just in case.
An X51 was shown as being 1hr 37 mins late on Google last Tuesday. Im going to assume it was either a mistake or perhaps a break down that continued to ping GPS data?
Quote from: Gareth on February 11, 2020, 05:54:46 PM
Maybe it's better to give yourself a larger window than 12 minutes for being to work on time. You regularly post about issues with these routes, so maybe you should leave a little earlier just in case.
Yes, clearly my fault for not leaving earlier than I needed to.
Quote from: MasterPlan on February 11, 2020, 10:10:25 PM
Yes, clearly my fault for not leaving earlier than I needed to.
It's not about fault or blame. But if you know there's a strong chance the bus you usually get is late, then catch an earlier one. 12 minutes doesn't give you much of a buffer between being on time and being late.
Have just got off 6999 at Hamstead Village, running (supposedly) 53 minutes late..
Roadworks at Old Walsall Road & lane closures at Hockley appear to be having a dismally detrimental effect on the service; both Diamond & NX, naturally
6999 has just turned around at Hamstead Village and left with a 16E to Hockley, with 7501 behind - also on a 16E to Hockley
3 sets of roadworks on the X22, 2 sets also affecting X20,X21. Going to be fun tonight
Services 2A and 15 have seen delays of well over half an hour due to the stabbings in Pensnett Road. All traffic is being diverted via Wallows Road causing long tailbacks to Pensnett.
4 9's arrived at bearwood at 19:10 this evening heading towards Stourbridge. One was a 9E to Halesowen. Traffic had been horrendous apparently unsure why though
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 20, 2020, 09:15:15 PM
4 9's arrived at bearwood at 19:10 this evening heading towards Stourbridge. One was a 9E to Halesowen. Traffic had been horrendous apparently unsure why though
Rtc the A38 overpass in the city centre was casing bad traffic great Charles street Queensway also five ways was very slow cause of it to
Copied from nxwm Delay: There has been an road traffic accident this afternoon where a car has mounted the central reservation on the Lancaster Circus flyover.
Congestion has spread through all of the city centre causing delays of up to 60 minutes to most services going into the city centre
Quote from: Jack6101 on February 20, 2020, 09:18:32 PM
Rtc the A38 overpass in the city centre was casing bad traffic great Charles street Queensway also five ways was very slow cause of it to
Copied from nxwm Delay: There has been an road traffic accident this afternoon where a car has mounted the central reservation on the Lancaster Circus flyover.
Congestion has spread through all of the city centre causing delays of up to 60 minutes to most services going into the city centre
I heard that on local radio traffic bulletin on my way to work, I thought this evening gonna be fun crawled from 5 ways to snow hill then crawled from NIA to Broadway , 5 ways cleared up when I reached it outbound.
Hagley Road and Harborne services totally shafted tonight. Waited nearly 35 mins for a 23 (three in a row), numerous 9s, 13s, 126s and X10s all bunched. Not seen things that bad in ages.
Travelling home from Kings Heath on the 11A this evening, I had the pleasure of having a whole double-deck bus to myself!
I saw it pull up at the stop on Vicarage Road showing 'Not In Service', then as it pulled away towards the traffic lights the display changed to 'Outer Circle 11A', so I quickened my pace to meet it at the Addison Road stop. Another one must have not long gone, as there was no-one else waiting, didn't stop again until I got off at Billesley fire station island, noticed on the Init unit that it was 'Late 24'.
Quite fortuitous to get an adjusted empty bus like that!
Quote from: Mike K on February 25, 2020, 06:34:15 PM
Hagley Road and Harborne services totally shafted tonight. Waited nearly 35 mins for a 23 (three in a row), numerous 9s, 13s, 126s and X10s all bunched. Not seen things that bad in ages.
From what I heard from other passengers on the 50 I caught into Kings Heath, sounds like traffic was bad all round the city centre; certainly Highgate Middleway was very slow moving from what I saw walking to the 50 stop, and traffic was crawling through Balsall Heath.
Quote from: Mike K on February 25, 2020, 06:34:15 PM
Hagley Road and Harborne services totally shafted tonight. Waited nearly 35 mins for a 23 (three in a row), numerous 9s, 13s, 126s and X10s all bunched. Not seen things that bad in ages.
I caught an x8 38 minutes late. Vehicles started to get stuck with the snow heading up Quinton hill. Was standstill for 20+ minutes
X22s In fine form tonight. 3 due within the space of 12 mins
15:03 11A from Mezza no show.. absolute joke
Arrived 15 mins late, bus 2114, and this what a great replacement for the 81...
Looks as though the 15:33 11 is also going to be late.
Quote from: Jack on February 29, 2020, 03:11:33 PM
15:03 11A from Mezza no show.. absolute joke
Arrived 15 mins late, bus 2114, and this what a great replacement for the 81...
Looks as though the 15:33 11 is also going to be late.
Seems to run on time other times of the week, you do have to take into consideration the castle hill roadworks have start so delays are to be expected
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on February 29, 2020, 08:26:26 PM
Seems to run on time other times of the week, you do have to take into consideration the castle hill roadworks have start so delays are to be expected
To be fair when I passed through there everything was moving fine, it was upon entering Merry Hill they were clogged up in traffic!
A lady was saying that it's not the first time this has happened as she waited for the 11A and came 15 minutes late. I do think it runs better than the 4M though, even though the 11/11A do get caught up in a few hotspots not as bad as what the 4M can be.
Quote from: Jack on February 29, 2020, 08:49:04 PM
To be fair when I passed through there everything was moving fine, it was upon entering Merry Hill they were clogged up in traffic!
A lady was saying that it's not the first time this has happened as she waited for the 11A and came 15 minutes late. I do think it runs better than the 4M though, even though the 11/11A do get caught up in a few hotspots not as bad as what the 4M can be.
the last weekend of the month is always busy at merry hill due to all the monthly paid getting paid
4513 & 4511 were following each other to West Bromwich on the 48A & 48 respectively on Friday around 5 on Holly Lane
6887 was running 20 minutes late on the X70 this afternoon.
Washwood Heath Road between Saltley and Ward End, is at a standstill tonight. Got on YX17NYY on the 55 at 17:05 at Priory Queensway and didn't get to Ward End till 18:00. Was operating unload only by the time i'd got off. The one infront - 1800 looked very overcrowded as well.
Worst I've seen it in a long time.
Saw 1799 at the Fox and Goose with 7514 following directly behind it going towards the City Centre about an hour ago. Unusual to see 2 running together at present. 1799 must have been 10 minutes late and it looked busy as well.
Quote from: 2206 on May 18, 2020, 01:09:39 PM
Saw 1799 at the Fox and Goose with 7514 following directly behind it going towards the City Centre about an hour ago. Unusual to see 2 running together at present. 1799 must have been 10 minutes late and it looked busy as well.
There's something going on at the roundabout at the bottom of the hill, every 55 is losing 5 minutes between Stechford Road and Fox & Goose
Quote from: Tony on May 18, 2020, 02:00:16 PM
There's something going on at the roundabout at the bottom of the hill, every 55 is losing 5 minutes between Stechford Road and Fox & Goose
I walked up there earlier, a notice said its emergency gas works.
Quote from: 2206 on May 18, 2020, 02:01:10 PM
I walked up there earlier, a notice said its emergency gas works.
i had drove past earlier going to petrol station and the was putting a 5g tower on
Quote from: SK68MEV on May 19, 2020, 01:05:15 AM
i had drove past earlier going to petrol station and the was putting a 5g tower on
Putting a 5g tower on?
Or have the idiots set fire to another one?
Quote from: ellspurs on May 19, 2020, 01:29:42 AM
Putting a 5g tower on?
Or have the idiots set fire to another one?
they are putting the high tower on
Saw 2 94's heading to Chelmsley within minutes of each other 6804 and a 681X and going the other way 2 94's going to the City Centre within minutes of each other, 4779 and 4801. At around 13:20.
@Tony what's happened in Lutley Lane in Hayley green. A bus surrounded by police and road closed?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 18, 2020, 04:47:36 PM
@Tony what's happened in Lutley Lane in Hayley green. A bus surrounded by police and road closed?
Don't know, I've only seen that services aren't serving the end of the route, not the cause
Quote from: Tony on June 18, 2020, 04:50:11 PM
Don't know, I've only seen that services aren't serving the end of the route, not the cause
Looks like the bus is involved unless it's hiding something else. Unfortunately there's another NX 4H stuck up there too
https://www.stourbridgenews.co.uk/news/18526957.one-man-injured-crash-bus-two-vans-halesowen/. This is why road shut just hope all are ok
One of them may have been a sweeper bus, but I saw both 6941, swiftly followed by 4759 on the 12 to town around 9:50 last night
Was there a long delay on the PN9 in Stourbridge bus station at about 5:10 this Evening? And why?
6709 and 7520 both following directly behind each other along Bromford Road on diversion on the X12, heading towards the City Centre about an hour ago. Presumably there was a long delay somewhere as the X12 isn't that frequent, every 20 minutes.
6867 also following a minute behind them on the X70 as well.
The PN 28 seemed to be struggling for reliability during today. Seemed to be running at least 10 minutes late each time I saw it
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 20, 2020, 08:52:34 PM
The PN 28 seemed to be struggling for reliability during today. Seemed to be running at least 10 minutes late each time I saw it
Seems to be a lot of traffic top of merry hill by amblecoat road 8 was late too
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 20, 2020, 08:52:34 PM
The PN 28 seemed to be struggling for reliability during today. Seemed to be running at least 10 minutes late each time I saw it
road works three way lights by private hospital colly gate
Four way traffic lights on the delph island
Road works two way traffic lights on the withymore after sainsburys
Diversion red hill closed gas works
And you moan about it being only 10 min late
Quote from: Jack6101 on August 20, 2020, 09:39:34 PM
Seems to be a lot of traffic top of merry hill by amblecoat road 8 was late too
four way traffic lights on delph island
15 minute gap in service on City - Ward End corridor this evening, between 4843 and 1822.
1822 on 55 left with lots of people sitting next to other people, some people standing and very full and 4843 also left very full.
Also 3 55's and 2 94's comming into City Centre together on Jennens Road.
Quote from: 2206 on August 26, 2020, 06:04:47 PM
15 minute gap in service on City - Ward End corridor this evening, between 4843 and 1822.
1822 on 55 left with lots of people sitting next to other people, some people standing and very full and 4843 also left very full.
Also 3 55's and 2 94's comming into City Centre together on Jennens Road.
And you wonder why Birmingham is about to go into lockdown. NX are contributing to this!!!
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 26, 2020, 08:46:25 PM
And you wonder why Birmingham is about to go into lockdown. NX are contributing to this!!!
So you know the late running was due to national Express do you?
You need to try to avoid stupid comments.
(I have no problem with 2206's originally post as it was factual that there was a 15 min gap)
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 26, 2020, 08:46:25 PM
And you wonder why Birmingham is about to go into lockdown. NX are contributing to this!!!
The 17 I caught from the City was the same. The driver kept letting more on even though seats were taken and people standing at the front blocking the doors. The next 17 behind was just as bad even though he was displaying 'Bus Full - Social Distancing he was still letting people cram onboard!
Quote from: Jack on August 26, 2020, 09:14:16 PM
The 17 I caught from the City was the same. The driver kept letting more on even though seats were taken and people standing at the front blocking the doors. The next 17 behind was just as bad even though he was displaying 'Bus Full - Social Distancing he was still letting people cram onboard!
Drivers should be sacked over this. Identify them.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 26, 2020, 09:25:45 PM
Drivers should be sacked over this. Identify them.
And you are heading for a ban
Quote from: Tony on August 26, 2020, 09:49:33 PM
And you are heading for a ban
You don't think it's a serious offence?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 26, 2020, 09:52:02 PM
You don't think it's a serious offence?
One of the rules of this forum is you don't identify people who cannot answer back.
Was there supposed to be a 'sweeper bus' in the area?
By the way, are these 'sweeper buses' only in the Birmingham area, or are they supposed to be all over the NX operating area?
Disregarding the comment about identifying the drivers concerned, surely the 'allegation' should be investigated?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 26, 2020, 08:46:25 PM
And you wonder why Birmingham is about to go into lockdown. NX are contributing to this!!!
So Nxwm forced these people to board the bus ?
There choice to get on.
Quote from: Westy on August 26, 2020, 10:35:15 PM
Was there supposed to be a 'sweeper bus' in the area?
By the way, are these 'sweeper buses' only in the Birmingham area, or are they supposed to be all over the NX operating area?
Disregarding the comment about identifying the drivers concerned, surely the 'allegation' should be investigated?
It's only the DD routes that get them from what I have been seeing. The 17 and 55 are mainly always full and BY probably don't have enough spare Omnilinks for sweeper buses.
Funny how they give a toss about the 4 in Walsall but other busy single deck routes are left to suffer.
Quote from: Jack on August 27, 2020, 12:03:08 PM
It's only the DD routes that get them from what I have been seeing. The 17 and 55 are mainly always full and BY probably don't have enough spare Omnilinks for sweeper buses.
Funny how they give a toss about the 4 in Walsall but other busy single deck routes are left to suffer.
The 17 and 55 aren't nearly always full, and BY do have hot spares out every day covering overloading
Quote from: Tony on August 27, 2020, 12:56:02 PM
The 17 and 55 aren't nearly always full, and BY do have hot spares out every day covering overloading
They get ridiculously full at peaks.
Quote from: Busboy105 on August 27, 2020, 01:01:50 PM
They get ridiculously full at peaks.
Overcrowding on the 55 route is a subject that i've spoken about on many occasions over the last few years - both on here and also in person to NXWM staff.
With schools returning, we are all expecting an increase in passenger usage from next month. Something that the 55 will struggle with as things stand.
Granted, like most people that frequent this forum, we understand the reasons why its currently being run by single decks. But with Bordesley Depot closing & the 55 route heading for Central Garage, there is no reason why the capacity issues can't be resolved by using Double Deck buses.
Quote from: MK on August 27, 2020, 01:32:49 PM
Overcrowding on the 55 route is a subject that i've spoken about on many occasions over the last few years - both on here and also in person to NXWM staff.
With schools returning, we are all expecting an increase in passenger usage from next month. Something that the 55 will struggle with as things stand.
Granted, like most people that frequent this forum, we understand the reasons why its currently being run by single decks. But with Bordesley Depot closing & the 55 route heading for Central Garage, there is no reason why the capacity issues can't be resolved by using Double Deck buses.
You have a point about the 55 getting overcrowded and hopefully it will be double deckers when it goes to BC. BUT those single deckers have to go somewhere, if around 15 double deckers are found where do they come from ?
Quote from: Steve3229vp on August 27, 2020, 01:44:16 PM
You have a point about the 55 getting overcrowded and hopefully it will be double deckers when it goes to BC. BUT those single deckers have to go somewhere, if around 15 double deckers are found where do they come from ?
The plan is for the 55 to go double deck at BC, but BCC need to do some tree lopping first or there will be some broken upper saloon windows
Quote from: Tony on August 27, 2020, 02:16:43 PM
The plan is for the 55 to go double deck at BC, but BCC need to do some tree lopping first or there will be some broken upper saloon windows
Many thanks for confirming the plans. A good example of identifying an issue and doing something positive about it. Much appreciated.
Sister just informed me her 60 bus from Wednesfield to Bloxwich running 15 mins late!(Just got it!)
"Crap isn't it" , was her comment when she rang to report in!
6124 was running 20 minutes late at Ward End this evening on the 11A.
Quote from: 2206 on October 01, 2020, 06:06:48 PM
6124 was running 20 minutes late at Ward End this evening on the 11A.
Very common.
55/94 seemed to be running with large gaps in service earlier. As had about a 20 minute wait for one.
Think its Jennens Road traffic and the new bike lane causing it. As the buses were at a standstill on Jennens Road and not moving. While there was nobody using the bike lane.
Not sure what the point of getting rid of the bus lane that used to be there was.
Quote from: 2206 on October 03, 2020, 06:59:42 PM
55/94 seemed to be running with large gaps in service earlier. As had about a 20 minute wait for one.
Think its Jennens Road traffic and the new bike lane causing it. As the buses were at a standstill on Jennens Road and not moving. While there was nobody using the bike lane.
Not sure what the point of getting rid of the bus lane that used to be there was.
They're doing it in most areas now its a joke. Removing perfectly good lanes and turning every road into single lane and slow moving traffic was a very bright idea.
Quote from: Jack on October 03, 2020, 08:34:52 PM
They're doing it in most areas now its a joke. Removing perfectly good lanes and turning every road into single lane and slow moving traffic was a very bright idea.
Its to a) improve fitness by encouraging commuters to switch to walking and cycling, reducing the burden on the NHS and b) improve journey times
Quote from: the trainbasher on October 03, 2020, 10:48:26 PM
b) improve journey times
Clearly it doesn't.
The buses are at a standstill how is that improving journey times.
Quote from: the trainbasher on October 03, 2020, 10:48:26 PM
Its to a) improve fitness by encouraging commuters to switch to walking and cycling
There are plenty of footpaths across the city for people to walk on. And I don't see people walking on the bike lanes, as that's clearly not their purpose.
Also its alright saying that, but if there's no uptake and no demand for a bike lane, which there clearly isn't. Then there's no need to get rid of the heavily used bus lane. I don't see anyone using these bike lanes.
And if nobody is using them clearly, nobody is getting fitter as a result of their existance.
Quote from: 2206 on October 03, 2020, 10:50:20 PM
Clearly it doesn't.
It does...for cyclists (I never said which mode journey times would improve on... its all about the creative use of language and spin!)
Been a while since I needed to post in this topic, I don't know if it was because of 'pre-lockdown madness' but the traffic was terrible this evening, and buses seemed to be all over the place.
It also looked as though all the tracking info on the app was wrong, which wasn't helping things - I was waiting for a 2 which was showing as due in 22 mins. The app wasn't showing any bus as due for at least 10mins, so I got on the 5 that rolled up, figuring I best not take any chances.
When I got off at the bottom of Sarehole Road, I couldn't see clearly but it looked like the ticketer was showing the vehicle as 35mins late (it was supposed to be at The Baldwin for 18:31, this was about 6:50pm).
Quote from: Stu on November 04, 2020, 07:34:52 PM
Been a while since I needed to post in this topic, I don't know if it was because of 'pre-lockdown madness' but the traffic was terrible this evening, and buses seemed to be all over the place.
It also looked as though all the tracking info on the app was wrong, which wasn't helping things - I was waiting for a 2 which was showing as due in 22 mins. The app wasn't showing any bus as due for at least 10mins, so I got on the 5 that rolled up, figuring I best not take any chances.
When I got off at the bottom of Sarehole Road, I couldn't see clearly but it looked like the ticketer was showing the vehicle as 35mins late (it was supposed to be at The Baldwin for 18:31, this was about 6:50pm).
Selly Oak high street was also rammed this evening - I could just see all the 61/63s stretching down the road. Not made much better with the redevelopment of the Selly Oak triangle as well as the new cycle lane replacing one lane of Birmingham-bound traffic. Not NXWM-related but the 144 was definitely off schedule by a good 15 minutes as it was entering the city centre because of all of this.
The City Centre was choc a block, as they say. That probably would've accounted for most of the delays.
87 dudley rd brades village island temp 4 way lights causing considerable delays 20 minutes during peak hours.
Quote from: Jack on October 03, 2020, 08:34:52 PM
They're doing it in most areas now its a joke. Removing perfectly good lanes and turning every road into single lane and slow moving traffic was a very bright idea.
Said everyone with a brain.
858 followed by an omnilink on the 4H heading into Halesowen from Hayley green at 12:30
Oh it was just like the good old days today! Looks like loads of late running Stratford Road services this evening due to what looked like a ridiculous amount of traffic in the Sparkbrook area.
Looking on Google Maps right now, looks like the whole Stratford Road through Sparkhill is also very slow moving.
Guess its a combination of a lot of shops re-opening as well as pre-Ramadan shopping frenzy.
2 4Hs in convoy at 5:10 in Hayley green
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 19, 2021, 07:09:43 PM
2 4Hs in convoy at 5:10 in Hayley green
It's rush hour? Schools are back, more people back at work?
Still late, and on a 20 min frequency
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 19, 2021, 07:53:38 PM
Still late, and on a 20 min frequency
1. Buses can't fly you know!
2. 4H is a long route
3. Traffic hot spots, West Brom, Caldmore, Oldbury, Birchley Island, getting into blackheath
4. Again RUSH HOUR
Quote from: BK63 YWP on April 19, 2021, 08:07:35 PM
1. Buses can't fly you know!
2. 4H is a long route
3. Traffic hot spots, West Brom, Caldmore, Oldbury, Birchley Island, getting into blackheath
4. Again RUSH HOUR
Mostly cause by the huge diversion in West Bromwich where buses were losing around 20 minutes. Any idea how late the Diamond ones were with their much shorter running times?
Quote from: Tony on April 19, 2021, 08:12:44 PM
Mostly cause by the huge diversion in West Bromwich where buses were losing around 20 minutes. Any idea how late the Diamond ones were with their much shorter running times?
Diamond buses have had their Red Bull today so on time hahaha
Quote from: Tony on April 19, 2021, 08:12:44 PM
Mostly cause by the huge diversion in West Bromwich where buses were losing around 20 minutes. Any idea how late the Diamond ones were with their much shorter running times?
Difference is diamond run an every 10 min frequency. And diamond don't really pay attention to timetables it's more of a shuttle service. Diamond have introduced new timetable today which allows extra running time in peaks
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 19, 2021, 08:41:11 PM
And diamond don't really pay attention to timetables
I don't think Simon would agree with you there, That is rather a damning thing to say about an operator
4904 running about 30 minutes late this afternoon due to heavy congestion, so was a slow journey from City Centre to Fox & Goose.
4906 on the 55 - late 110.
Took ages from City Centre to Ward End. Must be nearly 2 hours.
There are temporary traffic lights by Ward End park lake/Drews Lane.
But nobody working there and no holes in the road, so can't understand why both lanes aren't open.
Would a diversion not have been possible as well.
U turn at Saltley, A47, Bromford Lane, Drews Lane, Washwood Heath Road, normal line of route. Then it would keep the service moving.
Quote from: 2206 on May 10, 2021, 06:58:13 PM
4906 on the 55 - late 110.
Took ages from City Centre to Ward End. Must be nearly 2 hours.
There are temporary traffic lights by Ward End park lake/Drews Lane.
But nobody working there and no holes in the road, so can't understand why both lanes aren't open.
Would a diversion not have been possible as well.
U turn at Saltley, A47, Bromford Lane, Drews Lane, Washwood Heath Road, normal line of route. Then it would keep the service moving.
This has happened again today. Sister-in-law was on a 94 from Birmingham City Centre, has said that they were told to get off the bus at the Fox & Goose (for whatever reason) and had been waiting for a bus from there since about 17:10. She's just had to resort to getting a taxi to finishing her journey.
Quote from: ellspurs on May 11, 2021, 05:57:11 PM
This has happened again today. Sister-in-law was on a 94 from Birmingham City Centre, has said that they were told to get off the bus at the Fox & Goose (for whatever reason) and had been waiting for a bus from there since about 17:10. She's just had to resort to getting a taxi to finishing her journey.
Yes one Gemini on 94 is running 67 minutes down at 8PM.
There is extreme traffic, they're doing work on one of the side roads, nothing on the main road, so there is no clear reason the lights are where they are. There are 2 sets of lights now in operation.
Also saw 4778 and 4938 on E's to Ward End from City. They would have been adjusted to get the bus back to where it should be I think, if you look at the Bus Times tracking they turned 4778 at Ward End to take up a City Centre bound service at 17:38.
One of the drivers let a woman with young children & pushchair on as well, some drunk man who boarded an already busy bus told the driver he can't let them on as the bus is already full and then took pics of the little children. Driver took no notice of this idiot which is good. Sounds like a nasty man, he should be the one who gets off and waits for the next one on a wet & cold night when the service is running with severe delays, if he has a problem.
We have had to run some journeys short to fox & goose to try & get vehicles back on time & keep drivers with rta. It's been a nightmare couple of days with a couple of our drivers finishing 2 hours late yesterday even though they had just been adjusted prior to their last departure from City.
Made even worse tonight with severe congestion around the Bromford spine road meaning even dead running buses couldn't make it back to city
Quote from: 2206 on May 11, 2021, 08:20:45 PM
Yes one Gemini on 94 is running 67 minutes down at 8PM.
There is extreme traffic, they're doing work on one of the side roads, nothing on the main road, so there is no clear reason the lights are where they are. There are 2 sets of lights now in operation.
Also saw 4778 and 4938 on E's to Ward End from City. They would have been adjusted to get the bus back to where it should be I think, if you look at the Bus Times tracking they turned 4778 at Ward End to take up a City Centre bound service at 17:38.
One of the drivers let a woman with young children & pushchair on as well, some drunk man who boarded an already busy bus told the driver he can't let them on as the bus is already full and then took pics of the little children. Driver took no notice of this idiot which is good. Sounds like a nasty man, he should be the one who gets off and waits for the next one on a wet & cold night when the service is running with severe delays, if he has a problem.
Some random bloke taking pics of kids.
Nothing done about it?
Quote from: Westy on May 11, 2021, 10:02:54 PM
Some random bloke taking pics of kids.
Nothing done about it?
Sadly not no, don't think there's a lot that could have been done to stop him either, as he didn't look like a nice person.
I meant good the driver didn't order the woman and little kids to get off because of him, or something, when I say good the driver didn't listen to him/take any notice.
Quote from: 2206 on May 10, 2021, 06:58:13 PM
4906 on the 55 - late 110.
Took ages from City Centre to Ward End. Must be nearly 2 hours.
There are temporary traffic lights by Ward End park lake/Drews Lane.
But nobody working there and no holes in the road, so can't understand why both lanes aren't open.
Would a diversion not have been possible as well.
U turn at Saltley, A47, Bromford Lane, Drews Lane, Washwood Heath Road, normal line of route. Then it would keep the service moving.
boarded 7522 on 55 and that was 59 down the 14 is getting severely delayed too i was on 7530 on saturday and it was 49 down
due to the last night of ramadan the last couple of 14s were stuck on alum rock road for abt 2 hours due to everyone doing early eid celebrations
Diamond and NX suffering heavy delays on the 4/4H/4M route. What's the cause of this?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 18, 2021, 01:25:59 PM
Diamond and NX suffering heavy delays on the 4/4H/4M route. What's the cause of this?
Blackheath maybe as they've been doing road work there
6866 running around 25 minutes late on the 23, which is unusual at this time.
Is there a thread for VERY Early running service? (if not admin are welcome to move this message to start a new thread).
Last night 2173 on the Coventry 17 and 17A left Pool Meadow 5 mins early (https://bustimes.org/vehicles/190763?date=2021-07-11#journeys/147860742), passed Fenside 13 mins early and was back in Pool Meadow 22 mins early (https://bustimes.org/vehicles/190763?date=2021-07-11#journeys/147863691).
The bus passed me as I was out walking last night so naturally took me by surprise, of course at 1920 on a Sunday and with a big football match about to start there wouldn't have been many travellers, but if you're running a bus service like this why bother at all?.
Quote from: JPC on July 12, 2021, 07:19:16 PM
Is there a thread for VERY Early running service? (if not admin are welcome to move this message to start a new thread).
Last night 2173 on the Coventry 17 and 17A left Pool Meadow 5 mins early (https://bustimes.org/vehicles/190763?date=2021-07-11#journeys/147860742), passed Fenside 13 mins early and was back in Pool Meadow 22 mins early (https://bustimes.org/vehicles/190763?date=2021-07-11#journeys/147863691).
The bus passed me as I was out walking last night so naturally took me by surprise, of course at 1920 on a Sunday and with a big football match about to start there wouldn't have been many travellers, but if you're running a bus service like this why bother at all?.
They shouldn't be that early at all. I'm pretty sure there's some sort of guidance that says that a bus should try not to be more than 1 minute early and no more than 3-5 minutes late (can't recall what it was specifically).
Quote from: JPC on July 12, 2021, 07:19:16 PM
Is there a thread for VERY Early running service? (if not admin are welcome to move this message to start a new thread).
Last night 2173 on the Coventry 17 and 17A left Pool Meadow 5 mins early (https://bustimes.org/vehicles/190763?date=2021-07-11#journeys/147860742), passed Fenside 13 mins early and was back in Pool Meadow 22 mins early (https://bustimes.org/vehicles/190763?date=2021-07-11#journeys/147863691).
The bus passed me as I was out walking last night so naturally took me by surprise, of course at 1920 on a Sunday and with a big football match about to start there wouldn't have been many travellers, but if you're running a bus service like this why bother at all?.
Well according to the timetable shown for those journeys, that bus was running about 8 hours late, if you compare the listed timetable with the plots on the map.
Quote from: Stu on July 12, 2021, 08:17:43 PM
Well according to the timetable shown for those journeys, that bus was running about 8 hours late, if you compare the listed timetable with the plots on the map.
Yes, the bustimes website still is an evolving work in progress, listed timings are often incorrect like you've hinted, i.e typically displaying a Weekday journey instead of the correct Sunday journey, You will need to compare the bus location plots on the map, which is definitely correct, with the proper timetable.
not something recent but still quite relevant i remember some time in 2016 i was waiting for the 97 outside where it used to stop outside st michaels church and it took around 2-3 hours for the bus to come and when they did come i say they came, it was a whole march of 97 busses (around 8 i think)
a nice mix of single deck eclipses and tridents
wonder if anyone knows why this happened seems a bit odd that it happened like this
At least one Wolves 60 is running late due to a late change of bus, due to someone being taken ill.
Sister was informed by a fellow passenger, as a polite enquiry of the driver by her was ignored !
A34 in north Birmingham is a nightmare at the moment, X51 is running 15-20 late (even later at times) & that's off peak, & i saw 2 southbound X51s together (most likely both were late )in Bloxwich & this is the every 20 minutes section, yesterday afternoon.
Quote from: Crosville on August 13, 2021, 01:16:20 PM
A34 in north Birmingham is a nightmare at the moment, X51 is running 15-20 late (even later at times) & that's off peak, & i saw 2 southbound X51s together (most likely both were late )in Bloxwich & this is the every 20 minutes section, yesterday afternoon.
Yesterday it was due to the crash on the M6 which closed lanes all day whilst they replaced th barriers, forcing loads of traffic through Walsall
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Quote from: Tony on August 13, 2021, 01:34:32 PM
Yesterday it was due to the crash on the M6 which closed lanes all day whilst they replaced th barriers, forcing loads of traffic through Walsall
Thanks for that info, i did notice the M6 was nose to tail & lanes closed off, when the bus i was on was going over it through Great Barr, the A34 is a pain in the backside with all those roadworks & it's all the way to Walsall too at the mo, & there's a long diversion north of Walsall too Bloxwich Road South is closed & the X51 i was on diverted via Ryecroft & Harden
There was passengers at the Designer Outlet in Cannock that complaining to the driver of the Cannock bound X51, they'd been waiting over an hour for a Birmingham bound X51, the driver radioed to control, think he got permission to run dead from the bus station to pick up those passengers.
4949 running 37 mins late on 45.
From bus times the 33 seems to be running late as there is 5 buses within 10 minutes of each other heading toward Pheasey between Perry park and Warren farm.
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on September 01, 2021, 03:27:41 PM
From bus times the 33 seems to be running late as there is 5 buses within 10 minutes of each other heading toward Pheasey between Perry park and Warren farm.
If it's the same as yesterday then the delay/late running is down to part of Kings Road that was closed (roadworks I think) and the 33 was re-routed between Kingstanding Circle and Finchley Road via Banners Gate and New Oscott, the 5 was also doing the same.
3 x10s heading to Birmingham in Cradley Heath
Not sure why but 96 is having some severe timing issues today, one was 32 minutes late earlier.
I go to all the West Brom home games and the traffic around the M5 J1 island has got significantly worse over recent times on match days. I use J1 to come of the M5 going north and it took 20 minutes today just to get on the island. All the traffic was completely backed up in both directions on Birmingham Road at the island before the match. There also seemed to have been an accident on the West Brom bound Birmingham Road after the game trapping a number of buses.
During match days, there has always been heavy traffic but now it seems far worse. A few weeks ago during an evening game it was absolutely chaotic. I know the 74 has a diversion after the match but many buses were still trapped in the traffic. As usual there were plenty of police at the game today (it was against Millwall after all!) but no traffic police seen anywhere trying to sort out the chaos.
I hope NXWM have put in regular complaints to the police and council about this situation as it must be causing significant delays to the 74 at both ends of the route. The island needs a complete makeover with a flyover built for the A41 over the island.
Quote from: j789 on September 11, 2021, 06:50:48 PM
I go to all the West Brom home games and the traffic around the M5 J1 island has got significantly worse over recent times on match days. I use J1 to come of the M5 going north and it took 20 minutes today just to get on the island. All the traffic was completely backed up in both directions on Birmingham Road at the island before the match. There also seemed to have been an accident on the West Brom bound Birmingham Road after the game trapping a number of buses.
During match days, there has always been heavy traffic but now it seems far worse. A few weeks ago during an evening game it was absolutely chaotic. I know the 74 has a diversion after the match but many buses were still trapped in the traffic. As usual there were plenty of police at the game today (it was against Millwall after all!) but no traffic police seen anywhere trying to sort out the chaos.
I hope NXWM have put in regular complaints to the police and council about this situation as it must be causing significant delays to the 74 at both ends of the route. The island needs a complete makeover with a flyover built for the A41 over the island.
Doesn't help that WMT are completely incompetent and keep cancelling train services on the line meaning more people are driving to games.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 11, 2021, 07:28:25 PM
Doesn't help that WMT are completely incompetent and keep cancelling train services on the line meaning more people are driving to games.
The noticeably increased traffic on the northbound M5 at J1 would suggest more people are driving to games from the Stourbridge and Worcestershire areas. As I said though, I hope NXWM are putting pressure on those in charge of the road system to find a solution to this chaos. There is another match this coming Tuesday evening so I expect even worse traffic then.
There are signs on the motorway matrixes multiple days in advance to avoid that junction on match days/evenings.
Suppose it doesn't help either with the metro works in Birmingham City Centre.
Ticket machine on 7532 on the X2 said it was running 15 minutes down this morning. Also packed with a full and standing load.
Quote from: 2206 on September 16, 2021, 11:52:08 AM
Ticket machine on 7532 on the X2 said it was running 15 minutes down this morning. Also packed with a full and standing load.
Thats not bad really, considering the traffic congestion caused by all the roadworks along Coventry Road.
Quote from: 2206 on September 16, 2021, 11:52:08 AM
Ticket machine on 7532 on the X2 said it was running 15 minutes down this morning. Also packed with a full and standing load.
Ahh schucks, BC forgot to fill the buses up with Red Bull again ::)
I expect there were a lot of very late journeys today, in particular for all services that pass through Digbeth, no doubt because of today's Pride parade.
Some journeys on BusTimes are showing as operating over an hour late.
Yep kinda noticed that.
97 I finally caught I had been waiting 25 minutes for, and then it skipped most of the stops into the city.
Quote from: Stu on September 25, 2021, 05:03:22 PM
I expect there were a lot of very late journeys today, in particular for all services that pass through Digbeth, no doubt because of today's Pride parade.
Some journeys on BusTimes are showing as operating over an hour late.
Football match on as well seemingly, which could also delay Digbeth routes.
Quote from: 2206 on September 25, 2021, 05:09:44 PM
Football match on as well seemingly, which could also delay Digbeth routes.
Birmingham City playing at home does not normally cause this level of disruption.
Quote from: Stu on September 25, 2021, 08:08:56 PM
Birmingham City playing at home does not normally cause this level of disruption.
It will have added time to already late buses and having to take long diversions I would think.
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/279112?date=2021-09-25#journeys/169434902
https://bustimes.org/services/17-birmingham-tile-cross-via-yew-tree/vehicles?date=2021-09-25#journeys/169436259
They used to send the 97 via Saltley due to it as well I think, the tracking for 4466 on the 16:54 journey seems to show it lost 40 minutes on Garison Lane.
I only noticed there was a football match as the train was packed and unusually stopped at Bordesley, where they all got off.
Where in Saltley? I've lived here for 40 years and have never seen a 97 diverted through Saltley.
Quote from: Gareth on September 25, 2021, 10:35:35 PM
Where in Saltley? I've lived here for 40 years and have never seen a 97 diverted through Saltley.
Down the 8 route and up Nechells Parkway on match days I think. It might have been a short lived thing, think I remember seeing one on Adderley Road once.
Quote from: Busboy105 on February 05, 2020, 10:09:48 AM
No the 97 goes through Saltley during the BCFC matchdays.
I did a search on here and I saw one at Saltley in September 2018 as well.
Quote from: 2206 on September 01, 2018, 09:34:38 PM
The 97 (Towards the City Centre) was being diverted via Saltley and Nechells this evening at 18:00.
It appears the diversion was -
Looked strange seeing 2 46XX Tridents on the 97 (heading for the City Centre) - 1 was full of passengers at Saltley.
Bordesley Green East, Bordesley Green Road, Adderley Road, Saltley Viaduct and Nechells Parkway (I'm not sure what way they were going from there.
Ok.
This evening.
8pm I'm waiting at Allison Street for an X1 or X2. No bus stopped there for around 20 minutes (50, 17, 60, 97, x1, x2). A 6, 4a and 2 went past. The 6 and 4a was rammed, the 2 not so. The crowds at the stop was growing so I left them and took a long walk to Priory Queensway (via Barford Street/Pershore Street and the Bull Ring).
At Priory Queensway an x13 was at the stop but the driver got off and left. Other passengers were saying that they had overheard that the driver needed permission to continue but noone was answering the phone at the garage. Then a 95 and a 94 turned up together. The 95 had a driver change, and started letting people on (it seemed it was due according to the totem pole). The 94's driver wasn't letting anyone on, but then it was saying it weren't due for another 15 minutes. I got the 95 and walked back to Smith's Wood from Kingshurst.
Lots of fun. The poor drivers were getting shouted at by old drunk men who didn't seem to care that they had been working all day.
To be fair it doesn't help with morons panic buying fuel at petrol stations
Quote from: ellspurs on September 25, 2021, 10:55:46 PM
Ok.
This evening.
8pm I'm waiting at Allison Street for an X1 or X2. No bus stopped there for around 20 minutes (50, 17, 60, 97, x1, x2). A 6, 4a and 2 went past. The 6 and 4a was rammed, the 2 not so. The crowds at the stop was growing so I left them and took a long walk to Priory Queensway (via Barford Street/Pershore Street and the Bull Ring).
At Priory Queensway an x13 was at the stop but the driver got off and left. Other passengers were saying that they had overheard that the driver needed permission to continue but noone was answering the phone at the garage. Then a 95 and a 94 turned up together. The 95 had a driver change, and started letting people on (it seemed it was due according to the totem pole). The 94's driver wasn't letting anyone on, but then it was saying it weren't due for another 15 minutes. I got the 95 and walked back to Smith's Wood from Kingshurst.
Lots of fun. The poor drivers were getting shouted at by old drunk men who didn't seem to care that they had been working all day.
Yesterday I did an X12, got to the airport and I had loads of customers from the X1 stop run to my bus asking me where's the X1 and how long does it take for me to get to Birmingham, it was that bad that they caught my bus instead.
Quote from: the trainbasher on September 26, 2021, 03:17:35 AM
To be fair it doesn't help with morons panic buying fuel at petrol stations
it's just people bring stupid nothing more
Not exactly sure what happened but just waited an hour for an X21. 4 of them had gone the other way towards Bartley Green..
Also I noticed a new timetable was put at the Castle Sq, Beckbury Road stop to include the 48 but the X21 timetable does not match what it says on the app and website.
Nearly an hours gap in service this morning then for the X2's between 8AM and 9AM.
On a main route into Solihull in the morning peak thats not very good. Good the 58 turned up instead.
Quote from: 2206 on September 28, 2021, 11:37:10 AM
Nearly an hours gap in service this morning then for the X2's between 8AM and 9AM.
On a main route into Solihull in the morning peak thats not very good. Good the 58 turned up instead.
Yes, 6843 got delayed by 30 minutes (along with all other services towards Birmingham down the Coventry Road) on it's way into city, then further delayed on the way out
Over an hour long gap in service between 1866 on the 28 to Great Barr at 16:00 and the next one to Great Barr 1809 today at Ward End, Fox & Goose I think.
Plus it is allocated the most crowded/cramped vehicles in the fleet as well SD Scanias.
Quote from: 2206 on October 04, 2021, 06:07:39 PM
Over an hour long gap in service between 1866 on the 28 to Great Barr at 16:00 and the next one to Great Barr 1809 today at Ward End, Fox & Goose I think.
Plus it is allocated the most crowded/cramped vehicles in the fleet as well SD Scanias.
They are only 'crowded/cramped' when the bus is absolutely full, same as any full size SD not just the Omnilinks, so you are exaggerating there... also with you also knowing the 28's can be bad theres no need in exaggerating and moaning over it. What do you expect them to do? I had 3302 on the 997 earlier which was rammed to the point the driver was going past stops, was also 20 minutes late. The bus infront was rammed and the bus behind (4863) was rammed too but you don't hear me complaining, after 3pm its expected the roads are going to be a nightmare and that will cause buses running very late, use your brain, Birmingham is absolutely a nightmare atm to drive through!
Quote from: Jack on October 04, 2021, 06:50:37 PM
They are only 'crowded/cramped' when the bus is absolutely full, same as any full size SD not just the Omnilinks, so you are exaggerating there... also with you also knowing the 28's can be bad theres no need in exaggerating and moaning over it.
No bus for over an hour is bad, and not exagerated.
In regard to the other point the double deckers are far better buses and not that cramped, thats all I was saying.
Quote from: 2206 on October 04, 2021, 06:52:44 PM
No bus for over an hour is bad, and not exagerated.
In regard to the other point the double deckers are far better buses and not that cramped, thats all I was saying.
So what do you expect the buses to do? Grow wings and fly over the traffic? The 28 is a nightmare and has been for a very long time now.
Well you can't have Deckers on the 28 unless you want them to be Single Deckers...
If anything your moaning about everytime a bus is late or not getting a seat is starting to sound like the daily 4H nonsense...
Quote from: Jack on October 04, 2021, 06:55:03 PM
So what do you expect the buses to do? Grow wings and fly over the traffic? The 28 is a nightmare and has been for a very long time now.
Well you can't have Deckers on the 28 unless you want them to be Single Deckers...
If anything your moaning about everytime a bus is late is starting to sound like the daily 4H nonsense...
People rely on buses to get to/from work, 75 minute gap in service is unacceptable. I never said the issue was directly controlled by National Express, but the answer is more bus lanes. Its not going to get people out of there cars when they have to wait over an hour in the rain.
And possibly change to the route/timetable, so double deckers can also be used.
And I was only posting about a severe delay in service in a thread for late running services, so not sure what your rubbish about 4H is about.
Quote from: 2206 on October 04, 2021, 06:57:20 PM
People rely on buses to get to/from work, 75 minute gap in service is unacceptable. I never said the issue was directly controlled by National Express, but the answer is more bus lanes.
And possibly change to the route/timetable, so double deckers can also be used.
It is the Peak rush hour, what do you expect everything on time? More bus lanes which will then cause even more strain when they are being created and designed on roads that already are congested and mean a new lane is going to need to be constructed. The 28 can't be rerouted either, well especially not to its original route in Erdington. Its quite obvious you don't see those road as they are a nightmare now to drive along let alone putting a bus down them!
Quote from: Jack on October 04, 2021, 07:01:01 PM
It is the Peak rush hour, what do you expect everything on time? More bus lanes which will then cause even more strain when they are being created and designed on roads that already are congested and mean a new lane is going to need to be constructed. The 28 can't be rerouted either, well especially not to its original route in Erdington. Its quite obvious you don't see those road as they are a nightmare now to drive along let alone putting a bus down them!
Well if they want people out of their cars and on public transport, they are going to need to be a bit better than a 75 minute gap in in service in the rain.
In my opinion buses should be prioritised over other traffic as well, so more bus lanes are most definitely the answer, e.g. the one by the Land Rover on Lode Lane the buses fly past all the cars in the traffic in the peaks there.
The AG72 was having a lot of delays today, for example, I got off of 2211 and it was running around 85 minutes late. I think it was due to some temporary traffic lights around Sheldon as well as Sprint Work around Sheldon.
Quote from: GoldenSquid on October 04, 2021, 07:44:42 PM
The AG72 was having a lot of delays today, for example, I got off of 2211 and it was running around 85 minutes late. I think it was due to some temporary traffic lights around Sheldon as well as Sprint Work around Sheldon.
Quite common these days. Also welcome happy to see you here :).
Quote from: Jack on October 04, 2021, 06:55:03 PM
So what do you expect the buses to do? Grow wings and fly over the traffic? The 28 is a nightmare and has been for a very long time now.
Well you can't have Deckers on the 28 unless you want them to be Single Deckers...
If anything your moaning about everytime a bus is late or not getting a seat is starting to sound like the daily 4H nonsense...
Jeez who rattled your cage tonight. One minute your agreeing saying the 28 is shambles and then your attacking 2206 for posting what he has experienced. If a bus is running consistently late and experiencing issues the onus is on nx to try and rectify the issue. If not there's no point in publishing a timetable if you know it can't be adhered too
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 04, 2021, 10:40:28 PM
Jeez who rattled your cage tonight. One minute your agreeing saying the 28 is shambles and then your attacking 2206 for posting what he has experienced. If a bus is running consistently late and experiencing issues the onus is on nx to try and rectify the issue. If not there's no point in publishing a timetable if you know it can't be adhered too
Yes I know its a shambles but theres no point moaning over it, I know exactly what the 28 is like after commuting on it for the last 18 years, but then again I forgot PB are supposed to fill up the vehicles with Red Bull 🙄
Yes there is a point in setting a timetable, it works most of the time when theres no roadworks (planned or unplanned) or when theres no unexpected RTC etc... Are you honestly trying to imply that buses shouldn't run to a timetable? 🤔
Quote from: Jack on October 04, 2021, 11:28:07 PM
Yes I know its a shambles but theres no point moaning over it, I know exactly what the 28 is like after commuting on it for the last 18 years, but then again I forgot PB are supposed to fill up the vehicles with Red Bull 🙄
Yes there is a point in setting a timetable, it works most of the time when theres no roadworks (planned or unplanned) or when theres no unexpected RTC etc... Are you honestly trying to imply that buses shouldn't run to a timetable? 🤔
If the 28 is that bad in terms of reliability then you would have thought nx would have considered rerouting or retimetabling the route. Or split the route like they've done with the 11A/11C
There's probably loads of routes that need looking at.
Until our beloved councils stop all these roadworks there isn't going to be much improvement on reliability
Quote from: Jack on October 04, 2021, 11:28:07 PM
Yes I know its a shambles but theres no point moaning over it, I know exactly what the 28 is like after commuting on it for the last 18 years, but then again I forgot PB are supposed to fill up the vehicles with Red Bull 🙄
Yes there is a point in setting a timetable, it works most of the time when theres no roadworks (planned or unplanned) or when theres no unexpected RTC etc... Are you honestly trying to imply that buses shouldn't run to a timetable? 🤔
"... it works most of the time..."
Clearly doesn't though, does it? It's one route that has consistently had problems for what seems like forever, arguably feels worse than other more frequent routes
I do find it remarkable that the 28 hasn't really had any help over the years. It's clear something needs to be done but I cannot really suggest owt beyond splitting it, maybe the way forward is more of a London style approach for outer suburban routes like this and create frequent shorter routes feeding into each other. I mean, god forbid people should have to change buses, but you just cannot always have direct routes everywhere
You have to wonder, if the 28 is so unreliable, was it the right thing to reduce the frequency, given it's single deck operated
Quote from: Sh4318 on October 05, 2021, 12:46:34 PM
You have to wonder, if the 28 is so unreliable, was it the right thing to reduce the frequency, given it's single deck operated
Having a higher frequency in no way guarantees a more reliable service, it just means more vehicles get bunched together after getting caught in delays. It is actually more effective to keep the same number of vehicles on a route but slightly lower the frequency (giving more recovery time at both ends of the route). This can improve reliability as buses are more likely to stick to timetabled times as even if they get delayed having 15-20 minutes make up time at the terminus allows at each some of those delays to be covered.
NXWM have done this with services as Tony has previously pointed out and it makes sense for both passengers and the financial viability of routes. Sticking more buses on a route just to get delayed and run round together in 3 and 4s carrying fresh air is not the way to go to operate a successful route. Reducing frequency is therefore not always a bad thing - better to have a bus turn up every 20 minutes than advertise a 12 min frequency that has big gaps in it due to delays.
There needs to be a happy medium here and the council and highways department need to be significantly better than they are currently. The main trunk routes into Brum (and other large towns and cities in the West Midlands) all need a significant package of road improvements for buses. Rather than wasting millions on short tram extensions, money should be far moreinvested in the road system instead. Until that happens, reliability will not and cannot improve and there is no point blaming the company as they are very restricted on what they can actually do on certain routes crossing over many main roads like the 11 and 28 do.
Tbf, instead of having some of the Metro extensions, dedicated bus only roads, or even guideways, would have been better.
Hell, Line 1 would have been better as a guideway in parts
Quote from: Jack on October 04, 2021, 06:50:37 PM
They are only 'crowded/cramped' when the bus is absolutely full, same as any full size SD not just the Omnilinks, so you are exaggerating there... also with you also knowing the 28's can be bad theres no need in exaggerating and moaning over it. What do you expect them to do? I had 3302 on the 997 earlier which was rammed to the point the driver was going past stops, was also 20 minutes late. The bus infront was rammed and the bus behind (4863) was rammed too but you don't hear me complaining, after 3pm its expected the roads are going to be a nightmare and that will cause buses running very late, use your brain, Birmingham is absolutely a nightmare atm to drive through!
@Jack You were on it at the same time as me then...As I caught it from Walsall to Birmingham at around that time... 😂😂😂
4 X1s on Holyhead Road into Coventry at 6 this evening. Saw 3 go back the other way 2 of which were not in service.
Quote from: j789 on October 05, 2021, 06:43:06 PM
Having a higher frequency in no way guarantees a more reliable service, it just means more vehicles get bunched together after getting caught in delays. It is actually more effective to keep the same number of vehicles on a route but slightly lower the frequency (giving more recovery time at both ends of the route). This can improve reliability as buses are more likely to stick to timetabled times as even if they get delayed having 15-20 minutes make up time at the terminus allows at each some of those delays to be covered.
NXWM have done this with services as Tony has previously pointed out and it makes sense for both passengers and the financial viability of routes. Sticking more buses on a route just to get delayed and run round together in 3 and 4s carrying fresh air is not the way to go to operate a successful route. Reducing frequency is therefore not always a bad thing - better to have a bus turn up every 20 minutes than advertise a 12 min frequency that has big gaps in it due to delays.
There needs to be a happy medium here and the council and highways department need to be significantly better than they are currently. The main trunk routes into Brum (and other large towns and cities in the West Midlands) all need a significant package of road improvements for buses. Rather than wasting millions on short tram extensions, money should be far moreinvested in the road system instead. Until that happens, reliability will not and cannot improve and there is no point blaming the company as they are very restricted on what they can actually do on certain routes crossing over many main roads like the 11 and 28 do.
Is that why the Bloxwich to Wolverhampton route got reduced from every 20 mins to every 30 mins then?
Quote from: Westy on October 05, 2021, 09:52:35 PM
Is that why the Bloxwich to Wolverhampton route got reduced from every 20 mins to every 30 mins then?
I'm not overly familiar with that route but has the reliability improved since the decrease? Of course, there are other reasons for decreasing frequency so it may be more that rather than for reliability reasons.
:'(
Quote from: j789 on October 05, 2021, 10:39:11 PM
I'm not overly familiar with that route but has the reliability improved since the decrease? Of course, there are other reasons for decreasing frequency so it may be more that rather than for reliability reasons.
There was a man in bloxwich while we was waiting to depart on the 29 askinh the driver where the 9 was and said hes been waiting for an hour and half for 1 towards Wolverhampton but im not familiar with that route either
My sister uses that route for work in Wednesfield, & let's say she is highly critical of it's reliability!
She gets me to contact Nx on her behalf on Twitter on a few occasions!
Quote from: j789 on October 05, 2021, 06:43:06 PM
Having a higher frequency in no way guarantees a more reliable service, it just means more vehicles get bunched together after getting caught in delays. It is actually more effective to keep the same number of vehicles on a route but slightly lower the frequency (giving more recovery time at both ends of the route). This can improve reliability as buses are more likely to stick to timetabled times as even if they get delayed having 15-20 minutes make up time at the terminus allows at each some of those delays to be covered.
NXWM have done this with services as Tony has previously pointed out and it makes sense for both passengers and the financial viability of routes. Sticking more buses on a route just to get delayed and run round together in 3 and 4s carrying fresh air is not the way to go to operate a successful route. Reducing frequency is therefore not always a bad thing - better to have a bus turn up every 20 minutes than advertise a 12 min frequency that has big gaps in it due to delays.
There needs to be a happy medium here and the council and highways department need to be significantly better than they are currently. The main trunk routes into Brum (and other large towns and cities in the West Midlands) all need a significant package of road improvements for buses. Rather than wasting millions on short tram extensions, money should be far moreinvested in the road system instead. Until that happens, reliability will not and cannot improve and there is no point blaming the company as they are very restricted on what they can actually do on certain routes crossing over many main roads like the 11 and 28 do.
I didn't say it does. I was thinking in terms of capacity
What about routes that were approx 15 an hour and now reduced to 12 an hour. But still run in bunches of 2,3,4 and 5 with large gaps inbetween. Where's the reliability there?
Where exactly and what are the issues on the 94 and 95?
Quote from: Gareth on October 06, 2021, 06:07:06 PM
What about routes that were approx 15 an hour and now reduced to 12 an hour.
In regards to the frequency change, have you noticed any capacity issues. It was every 4 minutes, now every 5 minutes from Ward End to City. I don't think anyones noticed anything different as far as I know?
They do run together though sometimes, but they're frequent routes. And it gets allocated better buses than the 28, etc.
Quote from: 2206 on October 06, 2021, 06:24:55 PM
In regards to the frequency change, have you noticed any capacity issues. It was every 4 minutes, now every 5 minutes from Ward End to City. I don't think anyones noticed anything different as far as I know?
They do run together though sometimes, but they're frequent routes. And it gets allocated better buses than the 28, etc.
But they're not every 5 minutes though. You regularly get 4 within three minutes, then nothing for 15 or 20 minutes. And it's only been like that for the last couple of months.
Quote from: Gareth on October 06, 2021, 07:13:33 PM
But they're not every 5 minutes though. You regularly get 4 within three minutes, then nothing for 15 or 20 minutes. And it's only been like that for the last couple of months.
Its probably down to road conditions, City Centre, traffic lights at the ring road, traffic by Ward End Fire Station/traffic by Washwood Heath, Aston Church Road lights/traffic by Hunters Moon etc.
When I use them I never have to wait long anyway though. I'd get one of the back ones if they stop personally as well, if the front ones full.
Claribels also seem to sometimes turn there last one at Fox & Goose short when its running late instead of going into Town or run shorts to Bacons End the other way.
Quote from: Gareth on October 06, 2021, 07:13:33 PM
But they're not every 5 minutes though. You regularly get 4 within three minutes, then nothing for 15 or 20 minutes. And it's only been like that for the last couple of months.
The 11A/11C solution hasn't gone too well from my experiences the past few days. Yesterday 3 11As arrived at the kings head together and then there was a massive gap in service. This morning my 11A was 18 minutes late.
Quote from: 2206 on October 06, 2021, 06:24:55 PM
In regards to the frequency change, have you noticed any capacity issues. It was every 4 minutes, now every 5 minutes from Ward End to City. I don't think anyones noticed anything different as far as I know?
They do run together though sometimes, but they're frequent routes. And it gets allocated better buses than the 28, etc.
15 buses an hour down to 12 is a 20% reduction in capacity. Probably negligible impact at non-busy times but at the peak of rush hour, with buses already busy, that's going to have a noticeable impact. Compound that with late running and you quickly reach a position where people are being left behind at stops.
Quote from: Mike K on October 06, 2021, 09:07:52 PM
15 buses an hour down to 12 is a 20% reduction in capacity. Probably negligible impact at non-busy times but at the peak of rush hour, with buses already busy, that's going to have a noticeable impact. Compound that with late running and you quickly reach a position where people are being left behind at stops.
So what times and locations were you left behind by this service at then?
A bus going from every 4 to every 5 minutes or every 9 to every 10 minutes is negilible to be honest. I did use it rush hour yesterday and last week and never had any problem. I'm sure NX would know what the passenger numbers are on the service before they reduce them. And they use bigger buses than they used to aswell.
Quote from: 2206 on October 06, 2021, 10:04:10 PM
So what times and locations were you left behind by this service at then?
A bus going from every 4 to every 5 minutes or every 9 to every 10 minutes is negilible to be honest. I did use it rush hour yesterday and last week and never had any problem. I'm sure NX would know what the passenger numbers are on the service before they reduce them. And they use bigger buses than they used to aswell.
I don't use them and never will - I have no reason to travel to east Birmingham. The core corridors in Birmingham are very heavily used in peak periods, all it takes is a couple of buses to be running late on routes like the 50, 23/24, 61/63 etc and the crowds quickly build. Merely pointing out that reducing services by 2-3 buses an hour only compounds the challenges that some of these routes face. If it had no impact, then these services would have been running at these new revised frequencies all along, and making greater profits at the same time.
Oh, and as for your comment about NX knowing what passenger numbers are before they reduce them, I'll remind you of that the next time you rant about the X2.
Quote from: Mike K on October 06, 2021, 10:30:05 PM
I don't use them and never will - I have no reason to travel to east Birmingham. The core corridors in Birmingham are very heavily used in peak periods, all it takes is a couple of buses to be running late on routes like the 50, 23/24, 61/63 etc and the crowds quickly build. Merely pointing out that reducing services by 2-3 buses an hour only compounds the challenges that some of these routes face. If it had no impact, then these services would have been running at these new revised frequencies all along, and making greater profits at the same time.
Oh, and as for your comment about NX knowing what passenger numbers are before they reduce them, I'll remind you of that the next time you rant about the X2.
I wasn't saying there wasn't a problem I was just wondering if you had a real life example and the crowds do build up quickly. The X2 is far less frequent than the 94/95 though and is packed going into Solihull in the rush hour, and when gaps appear in service or they run late its far more noticeable at that frequency.
Quote from: 2206 on October 06, 2021, 10:38:20 PM
I wasn't saying there wasn't a problem I was just wondering if you had a real life example and the crowds do build up quickly. The X2 is far less frequent than the 94/95 though and is packed going into Solihull in the rush hour, and when gaps appear in service or they run late its far more noticeable at that frequency.
Well the argument you used to sarcastically dismiss my comment completely contradicts your own argument about the issues with the X2.
My comments about the 94/95 aren't about capacity. It's about reducing a service to improve reliability when it's exactly the same as before. Bunching then long gaps in service. That's not improving reliability.
Quote from: Gareth on October 07, 2021, 05:06:22 AM
My comments about the 94/95 aren't about capacity. It's about reducing a service to improve reliability when it's exactly the same as before. Bunching then long gaps in service. That's not improving reliability.
If you reduce a service frequency but add no extra running time or layover the service won't improve reliability and most likely to be worse.
Arriving on a 529 into Walsall around 420 / 425pm this afternoon, I was greeted with a massive queue of people closely packed together in the stand.
I was quite nervous about it & ended up going over to WhSmiths for a few minutes, to let that particular row of stands calm down a bit, before catching my next bus back to Leamore.
By the way, on the subject of the Walsall 9, it's now got to the point that sister is going to stick a complaint in!
Don't suppose anyone knows if the 2010 9 from Walsall to Wolverhampton is actually in service?
Bustimes.org suggests it isn't, & guess what, my sister is waiting at Bloxwich for it!
Update- she's given up & got a taxi!
Quote from: PB2938 on October 07, 2021, 05:31:14 PM
If you reduce a service frequency but add no extra running time or layover the service won't improve reliability and most likely to be worse.
Miss my old corridor (not) was walking in town today saw 3 94s and 3 95s all leaving Argos or whatever it is now at the same time.
Quote from: monkeyjoe on October 21, 2021, 10:00:28 PM
Miss my old corridor (not) was walking in town today saw 3 94s and 3 95s all leaving Argos or whatever it is now at the same time.
The X2's regularly run late in the morning as well. First one drove straight past the stop with full standing load and 6833 turned up on the 2nd but that one was late as well. Worse than the 94/95's as they aren't frequent even without late buses. I waited from 8.00 till 8.30 for one today. The Sprint works on the A45 are probably causing delays to that corridor as well.
Its B&M as well.
Quote from: 2206 on October 21, 2021, 10:27:27 PM
The Sprint works on the A45 are probably causing delays to that corridor as well.
Alongside the Metro groundworks in Digbeth which are causing delays to all services that pass through there.
6765 The last 529 from Walsall at 00:25 just left walsall at 00:41
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on October 24, 2021, 12:44:39 AM
6765 The last 529 from Walsall at 00:25 just left walsall at 00:41
Part of the linkroad off J10 going towards Walsall is closed. Probable delays in relation to that.
WA 29 has experienced big delays in service this afternoon and into yhe evening missing journeys and some 29s being parked in the bus station with no drivers at 15:30 only 2 29s where operating and now there is only 1 currently running
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on October 30, 2021, 06:25:31 PM
WA 29 has experienced big delays in service this afternoon and into yhe evening missing journeys and some 29s being parked in the bus station with no drivers at 15:30 only 2 29s where operating and now there is only 1 currently running
Didn't that also impact the 70 / 70a as well, as those interwork somewhere don't they?
Quote from: Westy on October 30, 2021, 07:05:08 PM
Didn't that also impact the 70 / 70a as well, as those interwork somewhere don't they?
Ye doesn't interwork with the 70 just the 70A but ye alot of missed trips throughout the afternoon on the 70A
EDIT: the 70A only missed 2 trips in the afternoon but 29 missed a bunch of trips and no buses ran on the 29 from 18:00 till 20:15 according to bus times
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on October 30, 2021, 07:08:31 PM
Ye doesn't interwork with the 70 just the 70A but ye alot of missed trips throughout the afternoon on the 70A
EDIT: the 70A only missed 2 trips in the afternoon but 29 missed a bunch of trips and no buses ran on the 29 from 18:00 till 20:15 according to bus times
Hmm. Convienent, considering the current situation, assuming what was mentioned yesterday, is still happening tonight!
Quote from: Westy on October 30, 2021, 11:24:52 PM
Hmm. Convienent, considering the current situation, assuming what was mentioned yesterday, is still happening tonight!
Yep its until Further Notice so my guess they probaly stop after next Sunday
Loads of services were running late today thanks to Doris and the Tarmac terrorists in the name of insulate your loft
The protest was done top of great Charles street which is in a clean air zone
And just how much pollution was cause by cars stuck in the traffic jams
Quote from: karl724223 on November 02, 2021, 08:34:44 PM
Loads of services were running late today thanks to Doris and the Tarmac terrorists in the name of insulate your loft
The protest was done top of great Charles street which is in a clean air zone
And just how much pollution was cause by cars stuck in the traffic jams
It's a pity bus operators can't bill them for the late running/loss of revenue. Bloody tree huggers are a pain in the exhaust
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-59133016
At least they're wearing hi-viz vests to make sure they're seen in the roads.
There's an NX service 9 glaring on in the background on one of the pictures. The BBC reports from WMP that thery had "briefly and intermittently" blocked traffic for about an hour.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/live-updates-insulate-britain-protesters-22038664
An X8 is glaring in the preview for the video at the bottom of the Mail spiel.
If they wanted to cause more disruption, they'd need to make their way to the A4540. But I would suspect that people would just drive over them on there.
Quote from: karl724223 on November 02, 2021, 08:34:44 PM
Loads of services were running late today thanks to Doris and the Tarmac terrorists in the name of insulate your loft
The protest was done top of great Charles street which is in a clean air zone
And just how much pollution was cause by cars stuck in the traffic jams
They're breaching court injunctions. The police should have nicked the lot of them immediately.
Is Wa 9 supposed to have 4 or 5 vehicles maximum on the route at peaks?
Looks like the Walsall direction vehicle that should've arrived around 1800 at Wednesfield has not appeared, with the next one timed at 1835, according to BusTimes.
I can forsee sister putting in yet another complaint to Nx!
Seems to be a shortage of 95's towards cHelmsley wood this evening!
07:11 X21 from Bartley Green didn't operate at all today for some reason.
Quote from: Westy on November 04, 2021, 06:21:32 PM
Is Wa 9 supposed to have 4 or 5 vehicles maximum on the route at peaks?
Looks like the Walsall direction vehicle that should've arrived around 1800 at Wednesfield has not appeared, with the next one timed at 1835, according to BusTimes.
I can forsee sister putting in yet another complaint to Nx!
The Bus scheduled 1800 at Wednesfield is the extra 6th pm peak for the 9. A 701 board usually Trident or E400 operated .
Quote from: PB2938 on November 05, 2021, 09:38:58 PM
The Bus scheduled 1800 at Wednesfield is the extra 6th pm peak for the 9. A 701 board usually Trident or E400 operated .
If Bustimes is correct, I've never seen more than 5 buses listed for the 9, so where this 6th vehicle supposedly appears, I don't know.
Anyway I'll let my sister continue moaning.
Gives her something to do, especially as she's on nights for a few days now, so she will have to catch the bus an hour earlier than she should, as she can't rely on the 'proper' bus!
Looking at the NX Facebook, she's not the only one unhappy at the 9's reliability.
Quote from: Westy on November 06, 2021, 01:30:11 PM
If Bustimes is correct, I've never seen more than 5 buses listed for the 9, so where this 6th vehicle supposedly appears, I don't know.
Anyway I'll let my sister continue moaning.
Gives her something to do, especially as she's on nights for a few days now, so she will have to catch the bus an hour earlier than she should, as she can't rely on the 'proper' bus!
Looking at the NX Facebook, she's not the only one unhappy at the 9's reliability.
The 6th eatra pm peak bus comes to service 9 1625 from walsall and is 1745 Wolverhampton double deck always operated.
The 9 has very tight running time unfortunately was slightly improved 03 October changes but Trevor road added with no extra time can cause delays as the length of the route..
Buses can also be missing due to driver shortage.
Quote from: 2206 on November 14, 2021, 11:04:50 AM
Lots of AG 11's are adjusted to terminate at Witton/Villa Park probably due to late running and also traffic problems in the Perry Barr area.
None are timetabled to terminate there.
Big gap in service at Ward End on 11C today between the previous bus and 6145 at 15:30.
Infact most of the buses seemed to only be going to Villa Park the other way. Just 4530 going to Perry Barr.
4436 running 26 minutes late on the 15 tonight
Another night of utter failure on the 67, the third in as many weeks and those are only the ones to just knowledge.
A service that is now only offered at a 30 minute frequency in the evening, a key service for workers, sports fans and at this time of year shoppers.
2230 from City failing to operate and then the 2300 also failing. Both showing as operating on the tracker, as usual with NXWM who don't seem to care about operating services or keeping customers informed.
NX fast becoming a comedy outfit undeserving of a monopoly. They should certainly not be allowed anywhere near a takeover of Stagecoach while they can't even do a semi acceptable job of operating their existing services.
Quote from: andy41 on December 02, 2021, 12:13:37 AM
Another night of utter failure on the 67, the third in as many weeks and those are only the ones to just knowledge.
A service that is now only offered at a 30 minute frequency in the evening, a key service for workers, sports fans and at this time of year shoppers.
2230 from City failing to operate and then the 2300 also failing. Both showing as operating on the tracker, as usual with NXWM who don't seem to care about operating services or keeping customers informed.
NX fast becoming a comedy outfit undeserving of a monopoly. They should certainly not be allowed anywhere near a takeover of Stagecoach while they can't even do a semi acceptable job of operating their existing services.
Bus Times seems to suggest these are on 7 boards. And the bus that was supposed to operate one of those trips 6806 arrived at the 7 terminus nearly an hour late and was adjusted to miss out that journey.
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/179151?date=2021-12-01#journeys/189032384
Quote from: 2206 on December 02, 2021, 12:27:53 AM
Bus Times seems to suggest these are on 7 boards. And the bus that was supposed to operate one of those trips 6806 arrived at the 7 terminus nearly an hour late and was adjusted to miss out that journey.
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/179151?date=2021-12-01#journeys/189032384
Presumably the 7 being that late due to the Villa match day traffic?
Quote from: andy41 on December 02, 2021, 12:13:37 AM
Another night of utter failure on the 67, the third in as many weeks and those are only the ones to just knowledge.
A service that is now only offered at a 30 minute frequency in the evening, a key service for workers, sports fans and at this time of year shoppers.
2230 from City failing to operate and then the 2300 also failing. Both showing as operating on the tracker, as usual with NXWM who don't seem to care about operating services or keeping customers informed.
NX fast becoming a comedy outfit undeserving of a monopoly. They should certainly not be allowed anywhere near a takeover of Stagecoach while they can't even do a semi acceptable job of operating their existing services.
Perhaps you can offer advise on how buses can avoid stationary traffic caused by a football match at Villa Park. Both buses were out there. The 2230 journey did operate, bus 4813 left city 44 minutes late
Quote from: Tony on December 02, 2021, 09:27:08 AM
Perhaps you can offer advise on how buses can avoid stationary traffic caused by a football match at Villa Park. Both buses were out there. The 2230 journey did operate, bus 4813 left city 44 minutes late
I think you'll find Villa Park has been there quite a long time, and they pre publish their fixtures.
Does Perry Barr not have the sense to suspend inter working on match nights when they can easily predict what is going to happen and put a bus into the system so that multiple services aren't left without a bus?
And since you raise it, what about the extra passengers who are travelling to and from the match. So instead of extra capacity we end up with none!
The traffic commissioner is only interested in a defence for lack of timely operation around issues that can't be foreseen. I think we can safely accept that this does not fall into that category.
Tony you seem to be excusing this shambolic performance and appear to be proud of a service which ran 44 minutes late leaving a gap in service on trunk route of nearly an hour and a half! Not that I accept that anyway, as I walked in the end and no bus passed me.
Is there anything about your employer you won't defend? Some of us just stick our hands up when we've dropped the ball.
As I said previously and can prove with my recent complaints. This is far from a one off. Why does the tracker constantly tell you these buses are due 'in 5 minutes' when they clearly aren't operating or anywhere near me. Is that ok in 2021 too?
Staggering.
Quote from: andy41 on December 02, 2021, 10:52:00 AM
I think you'll find Villa Park has been there quite a long time, and they pre publish their fixtures.
Does Perry Barr not have the sense to suspend inter working on match nights when they can easily predict what is going to happen and put a bus into the system so that multiple services aren't left without a bus?
And since you raise it, what about the extra passengers who are travelling to and from the match. So instead of extra capacity we end up with none!
The traffic commissioner is only interested in a defence for lack of timely operation around issues that can't be foreseen. I think we can safely accept that this does not fall into that category.
Tony you seem to be excusing this shambolic performance and appear to be proud of a service which ran 44 minutes late leaving a gap in service on trunk route of nearly an hour and a half! Not that I accept that anyway, as I walked in the end and no bus passed me.
Is there anything about your employer you won't defend? Some of us just stick our hands up when we've dropped the ball.
As I said previously and can prove with my recent complaints. This is far from a one off. Why does the tracker constantly tell you these buses are due 'in 5 minutes' when they clearly aren't operating or anywhere near me. Is that ok in 2021 too?
Staggering.
Don't take this the wrong way, but have you tried running a bus service where there's a major
nationwide staff shortage, a pandemic going on, two major events at the same time on the route, and tried to keep the buses to time.
Tony and the team at NX should be commended for trying to at least keep passengers moving, even if its a bit late.
If you think you can do better, then you can find the forms to fill in to obtain a O Licence here - https://www.gov.uk/apply-vehicle-operator-licence
Quote from: the trainbasher on December 02, 2021, 11:11:08 AM
Don't take this the wrong way, but have you tried running a bus service where there's a major nationwide staff shortage, a pandemic going on, two major events at the same time on the route, and tried to keep the buses to time.
Tony and the team at NX should be commended for trying to at least keep passengers moving, even if its a bit late.
If you think you can do better, then you can find the forms to fill in to obtain a O Licence here - https://www.gov.uk/apply-vehicle-operator-licence
Yes, been there, done that thanks.
I believe I've covered all the excuses you've offered up in my previous post. The TC wouldn't accept any of them except on a temporary basis the driver shortage, and Tony has helpfully confirmed that wasn't the cause so it's irrelevant.
The issue here is incompetence and lack of foresight, nothing of what you offer up.
You're just someone else who thinks it's ok to leave people stood at the side of the road for an hour and a half on a trunk route in sub zero temperatures in the second city with no contingency or information.
People like you are a throwback.
Quote from: andy41 on December 02, 2021, 10:52:00 AM
I think you'll find Villa Park has been there quite a long time, and they pre publish their fixtures.
Does Perry Barr not have the sense to suspend inter working on match nights when they can easily predict what is going to happen and put a bus into the system so that multiple services aren't left without a bus?
And since you raise it, what about the extra passengers who are travelling to and from the match. So instead of extra capacity we end up with none!
The traffic commissioner is only interested in a defence for lack of timely operation around issues that can't be foreseen. I think we can safely accept that this does not fall into that category.
Tony you seem to be excusing this shambolic performance and appear to be proud of a service which ran 44 minutes late leaving a gap in service on trunk route of nearly an hour and a half! Not that I accept that anyway, as I walked in the end and no bus passed me.
Is there anything about your employer you won't defend? Some of us just stick our hands up when we've dropped the ball.
As I said previously and can prove with my recent complaints. This is far from a one off. Why does the tracker constantly tell you these buses are due 'in 5 minutes' when they clearly aren't operating or anywhere near me. Is that ok in 2021 too?
Staggering.
No it is nothing to be proud of, but where do you find the drivers from to put extra buses out to cover at the moment?
I'm not sure what tracker you are referring to that says a bus is due in 5 minutes, but isn't there.
Quote from: Tony on December 02, 2021, 12:18:51 PM
No it is nothing to be proud of, but where do you find the drivers from to put extra buses out to cover at the moment?
I'm not sure what tracker you are referring to that says a bus is due in 5 minutes, but isn't there.
Well I'm glad we can agree that it's not acceptable.
In terms of finding drivers, well you start by asking them.
I think if you're honest Tony which I understand you may not be able to be here, the depot has done nothing to avoid this in the first place. I know this because the last two match days the exact same thing happened. Meanwhile, the 65s were running like clockwork but I live in Pype Hayes so that's no use to me.
My question is can I expect the same on Sunday after the Villa match? The last Sunday game was the subject of my last complaint when again the 67 saw no bus for 90 minutes.
The depot knows they will get stuck on the 7, they can see them on the control system and pre empt it and adjust other services if necessary so the disruption is shared. Can they not arrange a contingency this time please?
In terms of the tracker, I've learned from the customer service staff this morning that the tracker app is defunct and no longer supported, even though you can download it from the App Store.
So according to him, NXWM doesn't offer a working tracker for its customers and we are nearly in 2022.
Seriously??
Quote from: andy41 on December 02, 2021, 01:43:04 PM
Well I'm glad we can agree that it's not acceptable.
In terms of finding drivers, well you start by asking them.
I think if you're honest Tony which I understand you may not be able to be here, the depot has done nothing to avoid this in the first place. I know this because the last two match days the exact same thing happened. Meanwhile, the 65s were running like clockwork but I live in Pype Hayes so that's no use to me.
My question is can I expect the same on Sunday after the Villa match? The last Sunday game was the subject of my last complaint when again the 67 saw no bus for 90 minutes.
The depot knows they will get stuck on the 7, they can see them on the control system and pre empt it and adjust other services if necessary so the disruption is shared. Can they not arrange a contingency this time please?
In terms of the tracker, I've learned from the customer service staff this morning that the tracker app is defunct and no longer supported, even though you can download it from the App Store.
So according to him, NXWM doesn't offer a working tracker for its customers and we are nearly in 2022.
Seriously??
As has been stated many times all the major bus companies are missing journies because of driver shortages, every driver is offered as much overtime as they want as long as it is within their legal hours, and as am encouragement the overtime rate of pay has been increased by 25%, but if you cannot cover existing work you are not going to find drivers for additional work on
TfWM have live bus tracking so why do NXWM need one that would show exactly the same information as to he source of the information would be exactly the same. Which tracker were you claiming was saying live information about a bus being 5 minutes away, so I can report it to get bug sorted?
Quote from: andy41 on December 02, 2021, 01:43:04 PM
Meanwhile, the 65s were running like clockwork but I live in Pype Hayes so that's no use to me.
Bus Times suggests the 22:35 X14 was on time last night. Departing from Priory Queensway. Might of been of use to you.
Quote from: 2206 on December 02, 2021, 03:12:37 PM
Bus Times suggests the 22:35 X14 was on time last night. Departing from Priory Queensway. Might of been of use to you.
Not really when I'm waiting at Waterworks Road on the A5127.
Quote from: Tony on December 02, 2021, 03:02:06 PM
As has been stated many times all the major bus companies are missing journies because of driver shortages, every driver is offered as much overtime as they want as long as it is within their legal hours, and as am encouragement the overtime rate of pay has been increased by 25%, but if you cannot cover existing work you are not going to find drivers for additional work on
TfWM have live bus tracking so why do NXWM need one that would show exactly the same information as to he source of the information would be exactly the same. Which tracker were you claiming was saying live information about a bus being 5 minutes away, so I can report it to get bug sorted?
This one.
Is somebody going to have a look at the situation on Sunday coming after the Leicester game?
Quote from: andy41 on December 02, 2021, 03:21:47 PM
This one.
Is somebody going to have a look at the situation on Sunday coming after the Leicester game?
Poor show from NX with so much scrutiny on rail aswell for match day travel
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-trains-man-city-22298914
From the article:
Quote"Those fans who recently found themselves really struggling to get away from the ground after matches need to know that I'm on the case.
"I think fans that have gone to the trouble of using public transport, trying to get away on local trains and find themselves queuing in the freezing cold for way too long, and danger about trying to squeeze into platforms that are too small for trains that arrive too infrequently.
"This really does need to change and we are putting our best efforts into persuading the local authorities that they need to really improve that aspect of the infrastructure around Villa Park."
Purslow added: "Lets face it, if the local authorities can't get our fans away safely and quickly after games with a 42,000 crowd, imagine how it would be if we went to 50,000 without that improvement being in place.
"Those fans who have been through it, I am sorry you've had to experience that, it's unacceptable and I am in discussion with the local authorities about how they can improve that as soon as possible."
If Villa want to increase their capacity, they should work with the WMCA and include funding for an expansion of the two train stations and funding for additional public transport that they require to take their "freezing fans" (whom have spent the last two hours freezing in the seats whilst watching the game) home safely.
Quote from: Tony on December 02, 2021, 03:02:06 PM
As has been stated many times all the major bus companies are missing journies because of driver shortages
I understand that there's a shortage of drivers, I'm seeing advertisements on Facebook, Twitter and such like. I recently applied back to NXWM and have had zero communication on my progress, it still says my application is open on the jobs portal, yet I've been waiting best part of 6 weeks now, no response to emails, and nobody answers the phone when I try to get an update.
Off topic but finishing a match after 10pm at the whim of Amazon prime does not help travelling fans of either team.
Quote from: cardew on December 02, 2021, 04:13:50 PM
Off topic but finishing a match after 10pm at the whim of Amazon prime does not help travelling fans of either team.
With respect this has absolutely nothing to do with NX's failure to operate its schedules bus services which are there to transport people to and from work, leisure and other socially required activities regardless of a football match.
Tipton Road's up to its usual tricks - just got off an 11A at Parkes Lane running 30 late
Quote from: andy41 on December 02, 2021, 04:26:49 PM
With respect this has absolutely nothing to do with NX's failure to operate its schedules bus services which are there to transport people to and from work, leisure and other socially required activities regardless of a football match.
Incidentally your claim that the 65s were running ok is not correct, the 2306 from Court Lane to city was 24 minutes late starting that journey due to delays on Lichfield Road. That bus had not been on the 7, so it wasn't just the interworking causing problems
Quote from: ellspurs on December 02, 2021, 03:59:00 PM
From the article:
If Villa want to increase their capacity, they should work with the WMCA and include funding for an expansion of the two train stations and funding for additional public transport that they require to take their "freezing fans" (whom have spent the last two hours freezing in the seats whilst watching the game) home safely.
I think you either haven't read the article properly or have a fundamental lack of understanding of the issue
1646 Wa 9 departure from Wolverhampton running roughly 20 to 25 mins late.
Sister currently by the bingo hall in Wednesfield on 1894.
Traffic on go slow.
Quote from: Tony on December 02, 2021, 05:24:05 PM
Incidentally your claim that the 65s were running ok is not correct, the 2306 from Court Lane to city was 24 minutes late starting that journey due to delays on Lichfield Road. That bus had not been on the 7, so it wasn't just the interworking causing problems
I was referring to the journeys from city, 2 of which passed me while I waited. One at 2230 and another just before 11pm.
Quote from: andy41 on December 02, 2021, 04:26:49 PM
With respect this has absolutely nothing to do with NX's failure to operate its schedules bus services which are there to transport people to and from work, leisure and other socially required activities regardless of a football match.
Not directly I grant you, and I wasn't intending it as an excuse, but it could easily have added to the congestion with people who would normally have used public transport being concerned about missing their last connections from the city centre and going by car instead. Not provable so I will say no more on the matter
Sorry Andy you aren't living in reality with your claims about NXWM. It's clearly been explained what the issue was/is and that it will be a issue industry wide for at least the next 6 months until the visa issue is sorted, amongst other things.
You say you have the experience in the industry, well you must have either been incredibly lucky in your company to not have any issues or alternatively maybe worked for a small company with nowhere near the problems. Who knows!
Football traffic is notoriously challenging to operate in, particularly later kick offs that coincide with the evening rush hour. I'm been to Villa Park a few times but go to West Brom every home match. The issues are the same there on the Birmingham Road with the 74. Some days the island round J1 on the M5 has been gridlocked causing 2 hour delays. Then the next game the traffic flows freely (like last week against Nottingham Forest). No company can realistically plan to run extra buses on the off chance there is a significant delay- it's not economically viable.
You never have anything positive to say about NXWM yet seem to think certain other companies round here would operate routes better. No they wouldn't, they would face the same issues as NXWM do and it would be the same.
Same goes for the clowns arguing for London style contracts - let's see how the non-bus using citizens of the West Midlands like having to massively subsidise routes through taxes because Norman from Caste Vale wants an every 10 minute service to operate at 10pm.
Just accept that industry wide the situation is very difficult at the moment - over the last 10 years, NXWM have not consistently missed out services like the situation you experienced. It was unfortunate yes but, at the moment, you've got to accept that the situation is far from perfect.
Stagecoach, First, Arriva are suffering just as much as any other company. You need to take things with a ounce of salt here and understand the reality of operation in this environment - you say you have the experience so I don't understand why you can't comprehend this?
Quote from: j789 on December 02, 2021, 06:17:48 PM
Sorry Andy you aren't living in reality with your claims about NXWM. It's clearly been explained what the issue was/is and that it will be a issue industry wide for at least the next 6 months until the visa issue is sorted, amongst other things.
You say you have the experience in the industry, well you must have either been incredibly lucky in your company to not have any issues or alternatively maybe worked for a small company with nowhere near the problems. Who knows!
Football traffic is notoriously challenging to operate in, particularly later kick offs that coincide with the evening rush hour. I'm been to Villa Park a few times but go to West Brom every home match. The issues are the same there on the Birmingham Road with the 74. Some days the island round J1 on the M5 has been gridlocked causing 2 hour delays. Then the next game the traffic flows freely (like last week against Nottingham Forest). No company can realistically plan to run extra buses on the off chance there is a significant delay- it's not economically viable.
You never have anything positive to say about NXWM yet seem to think certain other companies round here would operate routes better. No they wouldn't, they would face the same issues as NXWM do and it would be the same.
Same goes for the clowns arguing for London style contracts - let's see how the non-bus using citizens of the West Midlands like having to massively subsidise routes through taxes because Norman from Caste Vale wants an every 10 minute service to operate at 10pm.
Just accept that industry wide the situation is very difficult at the moment - over the last 10 years, NXWM have not consistently missed out services like the situation you experienced. It was unfortunate yes but, at the moment, you've got to accept that the situation is far from perfect.
Stagecoach, First, Arriva are suffering just as much as any other company. You need to take things with a ounce of salt here and understand the reality of operation in this environment - you say you have the experience so I don't understand why you can't comprehend this?
Don't patronise me.
You just can't have a word said against your pet PLC who in your eyes can do no wrong.
Tony has already pointed out himself that all buses were operating so the driver shortages is completely irrelevant here, please read the replies again yourself
I have worked for small independents, medium sized operators and large PLC's. The level of performance described here, on a consistent basis as it has been here which I can back up with incident numbers, would not be acceptable to any of those organisations.
Neither is it acceptable to the traffic commissioner since it isn't occurring due to a driver shortage. It is occurring due to lack of foresight and contingency for a foreseeable event. That is a punishable offence if proven regularly for the holder of an operators licence. I have attended several public inquiries and conducted responses to BOM's and am well aware of acceptable windows of tolerance and what is mitigation and what isn't.
Throwing your arms up in the air when buses get stuck when you knew they would in advance is not mitigation for failing to present significant portions of punctual service operation on services where you reduced the frequencies in the first place.
With regards to your claim that we should be grateful that NX deem to offer the late services in the first place, the TC has a solution for operators who find themselves unable to comply with their registration for an unviable commercial service. It's called deregistration.
Quote from: j789 on December 02, 2021, 06:17:48 PM
Sorry Andy you aren't living in reality with your claims about NXWM. It's clearly been explained what the issue was/is and that it will be a issue industry wide for at least the next 6 months until the visa issue is sorted, amongst other things.
You say you have the experience in the industry, well you must have either been incredibly lucky in your company to not have any issues or alternatively maybe worked for a small company with nowhere near the problems. Who knows!
Football traffic is notoriously challenging to operate in, particularly later kick offs that coincide with the evening rush hour. I'm been to Villa Park a few times but go to West Brom every home match. The issues are the same there on the Birmingham Road with the 74. Some days the island round J1 on the M5 has been gridlocked causing 2 hour delays. Then the next game the traffic flows freely (like last week against Nottingham Forest). No company can realistically plan to run extra buses on the off chance there is a significant delay- it's not economically viable.
You never have anything positive to say about NXWM yet seem to think certain other companies round here would operate routes better. No they wouldn't, they would face the same issues as NXWM do and it would be the same.
Same goes for the clowns arguing for London style contracts - let's see how the non-bus using citizens of the West Midlands like having to massively subsidise routes through taxes because Norman from Caste Vale wants an every 10 minute service to operate at 10pm.
Just accept that industry wide the situation is very difficult at the moment - over the last 10 years, NXWM have not consistently missed out services like the situation you experienced. It was unfortunate yes but, at the moment, you've got to accept that the situation is far from perfect.
Stagecoach, First, Arriva are suffering just as much as any other company. You need to take things with a ounce of salt here and understand the reality of operation in this environment - you say you have the experience so I don't understand why you can't comprehend this?
Have you got your rose tinted glasses on again ?
Quote from: andy41 on December 02, 2021, 06:36:55 PM
Don't patronise me.
You just can't have a word said against your pet PLC who in your eyes can do no wrong.
Tony has already pointed out himself that all buses were operating so the driver shortages is completely irrelevant here, please read the replies again yourself
I have worked for small independents, medium sized operators and large PLC's. The level of performance described here, on a consistent basis as it has been here which I can back up with incident numbers, would not be acceptable to any of those organisations.
Neither is it acceptable to the traffic commissioner since it isn't occurring due to a driver shortage. It is occurring due to lack of foresight and contingency for a foreseeable event. That is a punishable offence if proven regularly for the holder of an operators licence. I have attended several public inquiries and conducted responses to BOM's and am well aware of acceptable windows of tolerance and what is mitigation and what isn't.
Throwing your arms up in the air when buses get stuck when you knew they would in advance is not mitigation for failing to present significant portions of punctual service operation on services where you reduced the frequencies in the first place.
With regards to your claim that we should be grateful that NX deem to offer the late services in the first place, the TC has a solution for operators who find themselves unable to comply with their registration for an unviable commercial service. It's called deregistration.
What planet are you living on? I'd be very interested to hear what companies those were you were involved in to see where this exception operating practise existed? Did any make a profit as having all these spare buses and drivers available isn't exactly cheap? I really hope you aren't referring to any other West Midlands based operator as historically all those favoured companies by you round here have found themselves in trouble with the traffic commissioner at some point previousl - NOBODY IS PERFECT!
Also, you are the one who needs to read posts carefully. I gave the very real example of the situation in Birmingham Road and M5 J1 every West Brom home game with the 74. The levels of traffic are not predictable at all yet you seem to be arguing that that is still NXWM's fault as they know there will be extra traffic.
What you don't seem to understand is that extra traffic could cause a 15 minute delay one week but the next week it could be 2 hours (like traffic conditions that I have personally experienced this season). According to your business logic, NXWM should have 5 or 6 vehicles on stand by ready to go just in case there is a long delay - after all 'they knew in advance'. It's a nonsensical argument.
If your interpretation of the rules in the current operating environment of driver shortages etc was actually put in practise, every large company in Britain would be receiving a summons to appear before them. It is thankful that the traffic commissioner is showing some common sense during current times with this. A few missed trips are annoying for passengers I get this, but this won't be a long term problem once the driver shortage is sorted. Like I inferred previously, NXWM has operated according to the industry standards prior to the current operating situation so you need to take a step back and think about the ridiculous demands you are making.
Be realistic!
Quote from: metrocity on December 02, 2021, 06:55:40 PM
Have you got your rose tinted glasses on again ?
No I've got my realism glasses on as I work daily within such an operating environment (not NX by the way) and actually understand the current situation that clearly here others don't seem to fully grasp. It's a huge problem, made worse round in the West Mids by the current poor train services and Metro issues. No doubt that's NXWM's fault too though.
Are you involved in the industry or are you a passenger/enthusiast? They have VERY differing interpretations of the current situation.
Quote from: j789 on December 02, 2021, 07:14:40 PM
No I've got my realism glasses on as I work daily within such an operating environment (not NX by the way) and actually understand the current situation that clearly here others don't seem to fully grasp. It's a huge problem, made worse round in the West Mids by the current poor train services and Metro issues. No doubt that's NXWM's fault too though.
Because Wolverhampton garage isn't suffering as badly as other garages you may notice two PN 61xx buses on loan from tomorrow to provide extra cover on the 79 service, so where possible extra buses and drivers are used to cover problems
Quote from: j789 on December 02, 2021, 07:11:19 PM
What planet are you living on? I'd be very interested to hear what companies those were you were involved in to see where this exception operating practise existed? Did any make a profit as having all these spare buses and drivers available isn't exactly cheap? I really hope you aren't referring to any other West Midlands based operator as historically all those favoured companies by you round here have found themselves in trouble with the traffic commissioner at some point previousl - NOBODY IS PERFECT!
Also, you are the one who needs to read posts carefully. I gave the very real example of the situation in Birmingham Road and M5 J1 every West Brom home game with the 74. The levels of traffic are not predictable at all yet you seem to be arguing that that is still NXWM's fault as they know there will be extra traffic.
What you don't seem to understand is that extra traffic could cause a 15 minute delay one week but the next week it could be 2 hours (like traffic conditions that I have personally experienced this season). According to your business logic, NXWM should have 5 or 6 vehicles on stand by ready to go just in case there is a long delay - after all 'they knew in advance'. It's a nonsensical argument.
If your interpretation of the rules in the current operating environment of driver shortages etc was actually put in practise, every large company in Britain would be receiving a summons to appear before them. It is thankful that the traffic commissioner is showing some common sense during current times with this. A few missed trips are annoying for passengers I get this, but this won't be a long term problem once the driver shortage is sorted. Like I inferred previously, NXWM has operated according to the industry standards prior to the current operating situation so you need to take a step back and think about the ridiculous demands you are making.
Be realistic!
I'm not going to waste lots of oxygen on you because you don't take the information in.
Quite simply. Yes the TC is willing to accept the current driver shortage as mitigation for some none operation where it can be proved that was the cause, like it wasn't here.
On all other fronts, including planning for foreseeable disruption, the rules still apply. If when asked what you did to mitigate the disruption your answer is 'nothing', then action will follow. It's not a case of having 1, 5 or even 10 spare vehicles. Where you run into problems with the TC is where you made no effort. Any small effort made will normally avoid serious action but if you do nothing, the TC will be unsympathetic. NX repeatedly do nothing and throw their arms up and see what comes down.
The TC doesn't expect perfect so consequently I have never had anything to fear.
But nevertheless I know somebody at a large operator who right now is constructing his response to a BOM exercise that is applicable under the current circumstances, so your claim that it's open season out there with the TC at the moment is nonsense.
I'm not going to attempt to educate you any further because you're incapable of a sensible discussion and will defend anything so it's pointless engagement.
Quote from: andy41 on December 02, 2021, 07:51:26 PM
I'm not going to waste lots of oxygen on you because you don't take the information in.
Quite simply. Yes the TC is willing to accept the current driver shortage as mitigation for some none operation where it can be proved that was the cause, like it wasn't here.
On all other fronts, including planning for foreseeable disruption, the rules still apply. If when asked what you did to mitigate the disruption your answer is 'nothing', then action will follow. It's not a case of having 1, 5 or even 10 spare vehicles. Where you run into problems with the TC is where you made no effort. Any small effort made will normally avoid serious action but if you do nothing, the TC will be unsympathetic. NX repeatedly do nothing and throw their arms up and see what comes down.
The TC doesn't expect perfect so consequently I have never had anything to fear.
But nevertheless I know somebody at a large operator who right now is constructing his response to a BOM exercise that is applicable under the current circumstances, so your claim that it's open season out there with the TC at the moment is nonsense.
I'm not going to attempt to educate you any further because you're incapable of a sensible discussion and will defend anything so it's pointless engagement.
No I won't actually 'defend anything'. What I will do is highlight major flaws in people's constant criticism of a company who is trying to operate as well as possible in the current situation. This doesn't seem to be registering with you for some reason that today is a completely different situation to two years ago - things are very different now and what was expected then cannot be expected in current operating conditions.
Are you actually working today in a transport company? If so, it is even more ridiculous that you keep criticising NXWM. Going back to your original issue with the 67, I don't recall ever seeing you post on here about a positive experience on a NXWM route, perhaps a comfortable, ride and courteous driver or perhaps praise for the multi million pounds investment in buses over recent years.
But no criticising seems far easier for you to do it seems rather than actually give praise for the 99% of time previously when the bus has run on time and not missed a trip. As I said previously, you need to be realistic in the current situation.
This or I should say you are getting rather boring now YAWN
So 822 on the 28 has broken down for the 12:05 departure off Halesowen, and the 13:05 looks no where to be seen.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 10, 2021, 12:55:13 PM
So 822 on the 28 has broken down for the 12:05 departure off Halesowen, and the 13:05 looks no where to be seen.
Bustimes shows 834 scrambled to cover the Halesowen-bound leg, with 2106 heading for Stourbridge.
Quote from: Wumpty on December 10, 2021, 01:08:21 PM
Bustimes shows 834 scrambled to cover the Halesowen-bound leg, with 2106 heading for Stourbridge.
No bustimes shows 834 leaving merry hill 40 minutes late and not reaching anywhere near Halesowen. It went from merry hill to cradley Heath rail station and back on time now. I would hardly say cradley rail station to merry hill is deprived of a service.
Also 2 x10s left merry hill together, 1 on a x10 to five ways. Was sat in merry hill bus station for ages so I presume no driver available to take over
X51's and 51's are mainly running between 40-60 minutes late at the moment due to an overturned car at the Barton Arms heading out of Birmingham (buses diverted via Wheeler Street), the usual Perry Barr traffic and the A34 between Beeches Road to Scott Arms (from City) being single lane all the way...
2099 starting from cradley Heath station to five ways on X10
WA11/11A seem to be having issues, been waiting for one towards Dudley in Wednesbury for about 40 minutes now, with the screen reckoning the first one is still 8 minutes away, with another two not far behind.
A Scania was also parked up here, before starting an 11A short to Walsall.
No doubt traffic at Junction 9 and out of Dudley is the cause, as per usual.
Quote from: DJ on December 22, 2021, 07:09:58 PM
WA11/11A seem to be having issues, been waiting for one towards Dudley in Wednesbury for about 40 minutes now, with the screen reckoning the first one is still 8 minutes away, with another two not far behind.
A Scania was also parked up here, before starting an 11A short to Walsall.
No doubt traffic at Junction 9 and out of Dudley is the cause, as per usual.
I received this email earlier
"Please be advised we are seeing delays on the 11, 11A service this afternoon. Openreach works on Leabrook Road Wednesbury are causing congestion. We also saw congestion earlier through Wood Green Road.
Passenger wait time on service 11/11A is 15+ minutes, (Maximum operational delay 50 minutes)"
Quote from: Tony on December 22, 2021, 07:36:56 PM
I received this email earlier
"Please be advised we are seeing delays on the 11, 11A service this afternoon. Openreach works on Leabrook Road Wednesbury are causing congestion. We also saw congestion earlier through Wood Green Road.
Passenger wait time on service 11/11A is 15+ minutes, (Maximum operational delay 50 minutes)"
Ah, that makes sense then. No biggie, I got home in the end, although I do sometimes wish Thandi still ran on there so I'd have more options!
Quote from: DJ on December 22, 2021, 08:11:31 PM
Ah, that makes sense then. No biggie, I got home in the end, although I do sometimes wish Thandi still ran on there so I'd have more options!
Sounds like it hasn't changed since I used to catch it!
Thandi was a waste of time, as they used to finish around 5pm, & to add insult to injury, the last journey was an 'E' from Dudley to Wednesbury!
They were a lot better for me when I used to work on the Darlaston corridor!
Quote from: Westy on December 22, 2021, 09:58:15 PM
Sounds like it hasn't changed since I used to catch it!
Thandi was a waste of time, as they used to finish around 5pm, & to add insult to injury, the last journey was an 'E' from Dudley to Wednesbury!
They were a lot better for me when I used to work on the Darlaston corridor!
True, although they were a godsend at times. I had a child travelcard provided by my college along with a 16-18 photocard back when they were running on there, so it was only 50p to jump on one to college rather than getting on an often rammed 11/13 at the time.
I don't rely on the route nearly as much these days thankfully, although my commute home is often via Wednesbury on the tram now that it's back in operation, so it would be nice to not have to wait ages for one! ;D
Just waited over half an hour for an x1 from NEC to Brum after the 2257 didn't show up. If NX can't even ensure that late night services run, there's something seriously wrong with the company. Still, Coventry Road will have hydrogen buses soon won't it. 😂😂😂
Quote from: WMT3000 on December 30, 2021, 11:35:59 PM
Just waited over half an hour for an x1 from NEC to Brum after the 2257 didn't show up. If NX can't even ensure that late night services run, there's something seriously wrong with the company. Still, Coventry Road will have hydrogen buses soon won't it. 😂😂😂
I'd did run, and left Coventry on time unfortunately do to problem passengers ended up 40 minutes late
It was bus 6946
I'm afraid going to carnage to a lot of Walsall routes / especially 51, just saw the most horrific scene on m6 north. The glare from the sun driving causing issues all morning .
7:10 X21 from Bartley Green didn't run. So much for improved reliability.
(Apparently 6886 did it according to bustimes but it definitely did not https://bustimes.org/vehicles/279162)
And now to top it off 6888 which did the 7:23 departure has broken down on Kemberton Road ::)
Services coming to walsall Through Rushall experiening delays about 20 minutes or more just sat on 4333 on the 10 which is now in Walsall which now is loading looks like a Full upper deck and lower deck and a few standing as the queue from stand J reaches end of Stand K about to head back on a 10
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on January 12, 2022, 05:02:33 PM
Services coming to walsall Through Rushall experiening delays about 20 minutes or more just sat on 4333 on the 10 which is now in Walsall which now is loading looks like a Full upper deck and lower deck and a few standing as the queue from stand J reaches end of Stand K about to head back on a 10
Just had a look at 1898, on Bustimes.org, which was on the 9 earlier but running around 25 mins late on the 1616 from Wolves.
It then went onto the 1740 8 to Burntwood, albeit roughly half hour late.
Would I be correct in thinking the journey finished early in Ryders Hayes, as the driver ran out of hours, so said vehicle never made it to Burntwood, as that is what it suggests on Bustimes.org?
Quote from: MasterPlan on January 11, 2022, 07:44:25 AM
7:10 X21 from Bartley Green didn't run. So much for improved reliability.
(Apparently 6886 did it according to bustimes but it definitely did not https://bustimes.org/vehicles/279162)
And now to top it off 6888 which did the 7:23 departure has broken down on Kemberton Road ::)
7:10 journey to City didn't run again today.
WA 10 services running in 3s just saw 3304 , 4862 followed by 4125 all go past me by the Vets for pets on Lichfield road
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on February 03, 2022, 04:14:47 PM
WA 10 services running in 3s just saw 3304 , 4862 followed by 4125 all go past me by the Vets for pets on Lichfield road
Problem on the M6 means a lot of Walsall is screwed the
Quote from: Tony on February 03, 2022, 04:47:16 PM
Problem on the M6 means a lot of Walsall is screwed the
Thanks for that
@Tony
First time I've seen 23s running in 4s (last time it was only in 3s, 6945-7).
Reliability seems to have taken a hit in the 23 recently (on both ends). Anything new major works going on in town?
Quote from: mesub on February 08, 2022, 04:49:37 PM
First time I've seen 23s running in 4s (last time it was only in 3s, 6945-7).
Reliability seems to have taken a hit in the 23 recently (on both ends). Anything new major works going on in town?
Temp lights on kitwell lane
Quote from: Lukeee on February 08, 2022, 09:00:19 PM
Temp lights on kitwell lane
The lights seem to be changing at a good enough rate for traffic to flow somewhat. Even if that was a major issue, it doesn't explain some of the reliability issues for buses heading from the city centre.
1862 running roughly half hour late on Wa 9 & surprise surprise my sister is waiting for it!
3 guesses which bus company's customer service is gonna get it both barrels again by email later?
Edit - Has now caught it , but apparently running short to Bloxwich, presumably because 4565 is following behind!
Quote from: Westy on February 11, 2022, 06:05:17 PM
1862 running roughly half hour late on Wa 9 & surprise surprise my sister is waiting for it!
3 guesses which bus company's customer service is gonna get it both barrels again by email later?
Edit - Has now caught it , but apparently running short to Bloxwich, presumably because 4565 is following behind!
Whilst it can be incredibly frustrating when services are late like that, it's not because it's intentional or the driver just can't be bothered to run on time. There'll be a reason somewhere. Not sure what you want to achieve from your strongly worded email.
Look at Perry Barr when they was doing the roadworks with the flyover Coming down traffic there how late was the buses there
There was a very long gap in service earlier at Ward End heading towards City Centre. According to bus times about 40 minutes. Then 4483 on the 94 and 4487 on the 95 turned up together at about 15:10.
61/63's are all over the place this morning due to temporary traffic lights failing at the road works by the Selly Oak Railway Bridge. I'm just on 4932 on the 61 at the moment running 41 minutes late.
Something is seriously affecting the 16 and 74 this evening. I saw one 74 in 30 mins, and one 16 that went by full. Massive queues everywhere.
Quote from: MasterPlan on March 18, 2022, 04:38:13 PM
Something is seriously affecting the 16 and 74 this evening. I saw one 74 in 30 mins, and one 16 that went by full. Massive queues everywhere.
I guess the closure of the M6 at J7 (now open again) for most of the day has caused knock-on traffic problems elsewhere.
Quote from: Stu on March 18, 2022, 05:37:18 PM
I guess the closure of the M6 at J7 (now open again) for most of the day has caused knock-on traffic problems elsewhere.
Would I be correct in thinking nothing was able to be diverted either, as there was no point really?
Looking at the earlier X51's on Bustimes seemed to suggest so.
I believe on other occasions affecting that area, the Birmingham Road routes ended up diverting via either Barr Beacon or through Newton Road, Stone Cross, up to Broadway, then returning to normal route?
No 997's in Birmingham for the last half an hour, where have they all disappeared off to? Been standing here for almost half an hour.
A minute after I posted this, 6718 turns up... Wheres the last 2/3 buses gone, 16:18 and 16:28 were no shows...
Quote from: Jack on March 21, 2022, 04:35:36 PM
No 997's in Birmingham for the last half an hour, where have they all disappeared off to? Been standing here for almost half an hour.
A minute after I posted this, 6718 turns up... Wheres the last 2/3 buses gone, 16:18 and 16:28 were no shows...
All garages are suffering driver shortages so don't expect 100% service all the time.
Quote from: PB2938 on March 21, 2022, 07:30:09 PM
All garages are suffering driver shortages so don't expect 100% service all the time.
With Covid at it's highest level for ages we are back to lots of people isolating again
7531 late 38 mins on 23
Both 20:10 and 20:20 94/95 never turned up today.
4617 left on the 20:30 at 20:36. And there was a 101 branded E400 parked at the bottom displaying 95 for about 10 minutes.
Quote from: 2206 on March 28, 2022, 09:41:07 PM
Both 20:10 and 20:20 94/95 never turned up today.
4617 left on the 20:30 at 20:36. And there was a 101 branded E400 parked at the bottom displaying 95 for about 10 minutes.
bus times shows 4827 left as 20:39 on the 20:20 95 there are delays affecting them service and today was pretty heavy traffic for the washwood heath corridor as well as temp lights due too water works there was also and accident on alum rock road meaning all traffic was driverting washwood heath road hence reason why 14 was on diversion road was closed till about 9
Quote from: SK68MEV on March 29, 2022, 01:01:41 AM
bus times shows 4827 left as 20:39 on the 20:20 95 there are delays affecting them service and today was pretty heavy traffic for the washwood heath corridor as well as temp lights due too water works there was also and accident on alum rock road meaning all traffic was driverting washwood heath road hence reason why 14 was on diversion road was closed till about 9
4824. That was the one that was sat on the stand down the bottom for 10 or so minutes. With driver on the phone.
Maybe no relief driver to take over.
The other one 4814 according to bus times went back to the depot at 18:52. So might be the same reason.
Any idea what is happening with the Walsall 9 again?
According to Bustimes.org, there was 6 buses tracking, but sister left work in Wednesfield at 5pm, but can't get a bus until 1811!
I'm surprised there's 6 buses tracking, as that's the highest I've seen for the 9!
Didn't your sister see problems when she was on the bus?
1898 left Wednesfield at 17:03 but didn't get to Broad Lane North until 17:40 ( a journey scheduled for 6 minutes) so the problem was on her part of the route.
Buses were also getting delayed in the same area towards Wolverhampton hence the big gap
Quote from: Tony on May 11, 2022, 06:37:12 PMDidn't your sister see problems when she was on the bus?
1898 left Wednesfield at 17:03 but didn't get to Broad Lane North until 17:40 ( a journey scheduled for 6 minutes) so the problem was on her part of the route.
Buses were also getting delayed in the same area towards Wolverhampton hence the big gap
When she comes in, I'll ask her!
Quote from: Tony on May 11, 2022, 06:37:12 PMDidn't your sister see problems when she was on the bus?
1898 left Wednesfield at 17:03 but didn't get to Broad Lane North until 17:40 ( a journey scheduled for 6 minutes) so the problem was on her part of the route.
Buses were also getting delayed in the same area towards Wolverhampton hence the big gap
Roadworks in operation by Broadway pub at junction of Broad Lane North/Lichfield Road causing huge delays in the area, affecting 9/59 predominantly.
Quote from: Wumpty on May 12, 2022, 08:27:27 AMRoadworks in operation by Broadway pub at junction of Broad Lane North/Lichfield Road causing huge delays in the area, affecting 9/59 predominantly.
She's fed up anyway and wanting to contact the head honcho over other issues!
(She was doing my head in yesterday!)
Quote from: Westy on May 12, 2022, 10:01:51 AMShe's fed up anyway and wanting to contact the head honcho over other issues!
(She was doing my head in yesterday!)
Do you ever stop moaning?
Since when have buses been able to fly over traffic caused by roadworks.
Quote from: 2206 on May 12, 2022, 10:48:19 AMDo you ever stop moaning?
Since when have buses been able to fly over traffic caused by roadworks.
Not sure that
@Westy is moaning
@2206 - there's frustrations with reliability on WA9 even before the latest round of roadworks (though there are others who moan for the sake of it on this forum!).
I travelled through these yesterday and I'm not convinced that the phasing is ideal for the amount of traffic, couple that with bottlenecks in Rushall and Pelsall and it's a recipe for frustration. These types of longer, meandering routes are always fraught with reliability issues, though no magic wand (or flying buses) that can solve them.
Quote from: 2206 on May 12, 2022, 10:48:19 AMDo you ever stop moaning?
Since when have buses been able to fly over traffic caused by roadworks.
Correction my sister is moaning not me!
Quote from: Westy on May 12, 2022, 11:32:35 AMCorrection my sister is moaning not me!
WA 9 is being retired PM Peak from 05 June 2022 with more running time so reliability should improve.
Quote from: PB2938 on May 12, 2022, 06:45:43 PMWA 9 is being retired PM Peak from 05 June 2022 with more running time so reliability should improve. New timetable now on TFWM website.
Not sure it counts as very late but just seen an X21 and X22 leave the City terminus at the same time with another X22 parked up there and another X21 approaching it.
29s running late as usual for this time although 5 have just gone down in a space of 2 minutes with 4578 4333 2112 1847 and 1833
4844 currently about 30 minutes down on the 95.
Quote from: 2206 on June 03, 2022, 04:27:08 PM4844 currently about 30 minutes down on the 95.
I think it's not the only one. Three 94s and two 95s all left the city within a few minutes of each other around 4pm ish. One of the 94s left as 94E to Fox and goose.
Quote from: Gareth on June 03, 2022, 06:07:06 PMI think it's not the only one. Three 94s and two 95s all left the city within a few minutes of each other around 4pm ish. One of the 94s left as 94E to Fox and goose.
I think 4844 was the first one to come in, in a while and first to leave. Leaving City 15:51 according to bus times. Which was the one I got.
Any idea what the matter with the X51s 3 havent turned up from Birmingham the 16:25,35,45?
Edit: it seems they all came into birmingham but left not in service what is the reason for this?
WA 9 - Sister came for the 2010 ex Walsall to Wolves, arriving Bloxwich 2036 approx.
That vehicle is still in Walsall at time of post, so she's decided to catch the 31 to the Mossley turn off, then walk the rest of the way, hopefully picking up a 59, once she hits the Ashmore Park area!
Quote from: Westy on June 11, 2022, 08:48:03 PMWA 9 - Sister came for the 2010 ex Walsall to Wolves, arriving Bloxwich 2036 approx.
That vehicle is still in Walsall at time of post, so she's decided to catch the 31 to the Mossley turn off, then walk the rest of the way, hopefully picking up a 59, once she hits the Ashmore Park area!
Looking at Bustimes, 1843(I guess should've been the bus?) ran dead from Walsall direct to Sneyd Lane in Bloxwich, then continued dead on normal route.
I guess it's going to pick up it's next scheduled Wolves to Walsall departure? (Driver shortage?)
In the meantime, sister has managed to get to the first stop on Lichfield Road thst the 59 serves & caught that!
Looks like Digbeth has gridlocked and the stretch is all the way back to Moor Street Queensway.
Quote from: Jack on June 25, 2022, 02:31:31 PMLooks like Digbeth has gridlocked and the stretch is all the way back to Moor Street Queensway.
Yeah i came back on 2212 and waited for almost half an hour next to the moor st station. Any reason why there is so much traffic?
Quote from: Jack on June 25, 2022, 02:31:31 PMLooks like Digbeth has gridlocked and the stretch is all the way back to Moor Street Queensway.
Happens every weekend it seems.
Quote from: BBS on June 25, 2022, 07:09:28 PMYeah i came back on 2212 and waited for almost half an hour next to the moor st station. Any reason why there is so much traffic?
Roadworks in Digbeth that have been going on for months now.
Been a multi vehicle RTC on the A45 Coventry Road by the NEC, thats delaying the X1 Birmingham Bound. 6845 that was due at Bham airport at 1725 is still stuck, two other X1s 6847 and 7533 are right behind it aswell. 6844 that's not in service is behind them two.
Tonight's 52 is a shambles.
22:30 departure from City and 1918 is sitting at Perry Barr.
Quote from: Jack on July 01, 2022, 10:29:59 PMTonight's 52 is a shambles.
22:30 departure from City and 1918 is sitting at Perry Barr.
The whole of the Perry Barr area was a shambles last night.
The underpass was shut, the turning from the a34 to the a453 was shut, and the a34/a4040 crossing had 4-way lights on it. Driving on the a34 towards Birmingham, the lights were only letting 5-6 vehicles through before changing. I was there at 0010 this morning and it took me about ten minutes to get through it.
19:45 City Centre to Chelmsley Wood 95 didn't run today for some reason.
The 2010 Wa 9 from Walsall to Wolverhampton hasn't run tonight, as my sister was waiting at Bloxwich, so she's had to get a taxi.
I noticed on Bustimes.org, that the journey into Walsall ran & arrived on time.
Would I be correct in thinking that there is supposed to be a change of driver at this point & the new driver hasn't turned up?
6837 running 16 minutes down on the 94 a short while ago.
Also how long is the Saltley Bridge going to be shut for?
Quote from: 2206 on August 12, 2022, 01:24:31 PM6837 running 16 minutes down on the 94 a short while ago.
Also how long is the Saltley Bridge going to be shut for?
https://twitter.com/nxwestmidlands/status/1558039252734279689
suggests that it will be closed until the end of 18 August.
one.network shows that there is a traffic order for two-way lights until the end of October.
Thanks for that.
From what I saw. Most 94/95 buses are doing a loop to serve the Saltley Island and coming back the way they came, which does add extra time onto the journey.
Diamond not doing any loop left turn out of Aston Church Road into Washwood Heath Road.
'Explosion' predicted at Wednesfield, as my sister finds out, there's only 3 buses tracking on the 9 & according to Bustimes.org, they're all over the section between Bloxwich and Walsall.
Nothing on the Wolves to Bloxwich section!
23 was an absolute joke this evening, huge gap in service from city from around 17.30, no idea what the issue was as 3 24s came through in that time. 2 buses tracking on Google maps vanished into thin air.
Gave up in the end and caught the 24.
Hopefully when Highgate Road reopens in the morning, it should alleviate some of the traffic congestion along Stratford Road, its been awful the last few days.
There's also apparently some work going on along School Road in Yardley Wood, which meant that my 3 arrived 15 minutes late this morning, despite leaving Slade Road on time, it took the bus over ten minutes to get from Ravenhill Road back onto Priory Road.
https://bustimes.org/services/3-birmingham-yardley-wood-via-billesley/vehicles?date=2022-09-20#journeys/311456065
2 is also being delayed due to roadworks on Yardley Wood Road.
Absolute mess on Bradford Street, buses running nearly a hour late
Quote from: BBS on September 24, 2022, 01:07:39 PMAbsolute mess on Bradford Street, buses running nearly a hour late
Well the roads are/were shut for Pride. Last year it was an absolute mess as well.
Quote from: ellspurs on September 24, 2022, 01:21:07 PMWell the roads are/were shut for Pride. Last year it was an absolute mess as well.
Every time there is a bit event in Birmingham, it becomes a mess.
I wonder why operators like NXWM don't run additional services that don't go into Birmingham (e.g. a 97 from Chelmsley Wood to Heartlands Hospital / X2 Swan (or even Small Heath) to Solihull), just so there are buses moving and people eventually getting to the place they need to go.
QuoteEvery time there is a bit event in Birmingham, it becomes a mess.
I wonder why operators like NXWM don't run additional services that don't go into Birmingham (e.g. a 97 from Chelmsley Wood to Heartlands Hospital / X2 Swan (or even Small Heath) to Solihull), just so there are buses moving and people eventually getting to the place they need to go.
Large crowds were waiting for 6s ans 4s in Solihull, i agree with what you said but also shuttles to Birmingham rather than services going Birmingham
Quote from: BBS on September 24, 2022, 07:46:30 PMLarge crowds were waiting for 6s ans 4s in Solihull, i agree with what you said but also shuttles to Birmingham rather than services going Birmingham
They probably would if they have enough drivers but i doubt it with the nation driver shortage
Quote from: BBS on September 24, 2022, 07:46:30 PMLarge crowds were waiting for 6s ans 4s in Solihull, i agree with what you said but also shuttles to Birmingham rather than services going Birmingham
Any shuttles to Birmingham would get stuck in the same traffic...
I think what is meant is swingers running from the outer terminal to somewhere like the Middle Ring Road, along with the normal full length buses.
Either that would work, or NWM and the ops should do something like "Mop stops" similar to what is in Stratford, so if there is an event on in say the Markets/Moor St area, services could terminate elsewhere in the City, similar to where the CG Shuttles terminated during the Games (with one of each of the corridors still terminating in the Markets for example, and appropriate signposting)
It was a nightmare again earlier in Birmingham ( about 3pm), waited ages for X2 back to Elmdon. Looked like Digbeth and in particular Bradford Street was bad. Ended up getting train to Solihull and 72 instead.
QuoteIt was a nightmare again earlier in Birmingham ( about 3pm), waited ages for X2 back to Elmdon. Looked like Digbeth and in particular Bradford Street was bad. Ended up getting train to Solihull and 72 instead.
Not helped by an RTC closing Bradford Street earlier as well
Doesn't look like any X21s are running at the minute.
2 X22s gone have left in the meantime.
Not sure how they're going to manage on 2nd Oct if there's nobody to drive them now.
Quote from: MasterPlan on September 26, 2022, 05:03:34 PMDoesn't look like any X21s are running at the minute.
2 X22s gone have left in the meantime.
Not sure how they're going to manage on 2nd Oct if there's nobody to drive them now.
Seemingly an Incident on Weoley Avenue clear from the tracking and at least 2 vehicles have been stuck.
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/278518?date=2022-09-26#journeys/314337697
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/278563?date=2022-09-26#journeys/314374080
Quote from: 2206 on September 26, 2022, 06:16:16 PMSeemingly an Incident on Weoley Park Road clear from the tracking and vehicle has been stuck.
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/278518?date=2022-09-26#journeys/314337697
That may be, but 2 came into Priory Queensway and left NIS. One guy said he'd been there since 4pm and ended up having to get the 5:10 X22.
One of them I mentioned was 7523, which was also supposed to run the 6:48 to City this morning but it doesn't look like it did. Can't be a coincidence surely, is there something wrong with it?
Quite the opposite of late but cheers to 6888 on the 10:23 trip to City for leaving Weoley Castle Square 4 minutes early. Thanks a lot for that.
And then of course the 10:40 X22 to City doesn't run at all. Shambles.
X21/X22 back at it again, no buses at QE heading to Birmingham for 40 minutes between 17:30 and 18:10.
Quote from: Ronnoc on October 06, 2022, 06:53:11 PMX21/X22 back at it again, no buses at QE heading to Birmingham for 40 minutes between 17:30 and 18:10.
A few routes heading west / south west out of the city have been badly affected today. 23/24s from city were also a real mess at this time. On some Hagley Road services looked like there hadn't been a bus for a while too.
Would assume that the closure of Broad St and surrounding roads and the various diversions / knock-on effects have had an impact.
QuoteA few routes heading west / south west out of the city have been badly affected today. 23/24s from city were also a real mess at this time. On some Hagley Road services looked like there hadn't been a bus for a while too.
Would assume that the closure of Broad St and surrounding roads and the various diversions / knock-on effects have had an impact.
M6 was closed for a time as well which screwed the inner ring road up as well
Birmingham was at a standstill today. My mother caught a 94 this morning to Birmingham and had to alight at Matthew Boulton College and walk in. Priory Queensway is closed for crane removal and the rail strikes aren't helping matters.
Heavy traffic congestion in Kings Heath and Selly Oak contributing to delays on the 11A/C services (west side), buses bunching in 3s and 4s!
Suspected there must be something up in town today. Saw three 24s heading along Court Oak Road within a minute or two of each other late this morning, and there were three at the Quinton Road West terminus shortly before 4 this afternoon.
Quote from: ellspurs on October 08, 2022, 04:52:03 PMBirmingham was at a standstill today. My mother caught a 94 this morning to Birmingham and had to alight at Matthew Boulton College and walk in. Priory Queensway is closed for crane removal and the rail strikes aren't helping matters.
I went to the city centre this afternoon, and despite the services terminating at MBC, it was the most stress free 94/95 journeys I've had in at least a year. On time, no bunching, no vile crowds of a couple of hundred people. Really enjoyed it.
Quote from: ellspurs on October 08, 2022, 04:52:03 PMBirmingham was at a standstill today. My mother caught a 94 this morning to Birmingham and had to alight at Matthew Boulton College and walk in. Priory Queensway is closed for crane removal and the rail strikes aren't helping matters.
14/94/95/66 are terminating at a very horrible crowded stop outside Matthew Boulton College on the Chelmsley bound side. Long waits, its even worse there than at the Priory stop, with all 4 services terminating at the same stop.
X12/X13/65/67 are terminating at James Watt Queensway (65/67 Perry Common/Castle Vale bound stop).
X3/X4/X5/X14 terminating at Corporation Street.
& 61/63/X21/X22 at Moor Street Queensway,
Hagley Road services are also on diversion into the City via the 126 route.
Quote from: 2206 on October 08, 2022, 08:49:45 PM14/94/95/66 are terminating at a very horrible crowded stop outside Matthew Boulton College on the Chelmsley bound side. Long waits, its even worse there than at the Priory stop, with all 4 services terminating at the same stop.
Yeah, she decided not to attempt that, and came home via the 97 and x12, changing at Chelmsley Wood. She said 4/5 97s appeared at roughly the same time, so I would gather Digbeth was being its usual self!
I think every city centre service was running late this evening 🙄 Walked into town from Digbeth around 630pm because of gridlock and drivers letting their passengers off.
Genners Lane/Jiggins Lane (Bartley Green) temporary traffic lights does not combine well with school traffic. X22s and 18s are running quite close to each other and 6869 + 6879 following each other on the 23.
2010 WA 9 to Wolves doesn't seem to be moving from Walsall Bus Station, according to BusTimes.
6130 was running 30 minutes down at the Fox & Goose on the 11A service this afternoon.
Big delays on the X12 today due to the closure of M42 both ways between 5 and 6. All traffic being sent Damson Parkway so it's been like a car park the few days. Seen some X12s being delayed upto 60 minutes.
Was very heavy congestion at the fox & goose tonight. according to tracking was taking 11A/11C 20-30 minutes to get through.
https://bustimes.org/services/11c-birmingham-outer-circle-clockwise-2/vehicles?date=2022-10-24#journeys/327194454
https://bustimes.org/services/11c-birmingham-outer-circle-clockwise-2/vehicles?date=2022-10-24#journeys/327175728
Due to a RTC I believe.
Aston Webb Boulevard (by Selly Oak Retail Park) is closed (towards QE Hospital), leaving the 76 with 20-40 minute delays in the rush hour earlier today.
New street security alert going to be carnage tonight
X21 and X22 absolutely horrendous again this evening.
Good job the 23 exists.
Just having a quick look 6881 left city at 16:28 and arrived at University Station at 17:24. No chance of running a decent service with traffic like that
Quote from: Tony on October 31, 2022, 08:04:21 PMJust having a quick look 6881 left city at 16:28 and arrived at University Station at 17:24. No chance of running a decent service with traffic like that
Yeah, I know these things can't be helped, it's just frustrating is all.
Like in the mornings the X21 gets battered between Bristol Road and New Fosse Way with traffic, which has been made worse by the roadworks.
Selly Oak is where punctuality goes to die. Always has been.
Harborne's not faring much better at the moment, journey on 6868 on the 23 took 50 mins to Centenary Square this morning - 12 mins late when I got on, 38 mins late by the time I got off.
Traffic seems worse than pre-covid levels at the moment, and a lot of peak hour 23/24 journeys are struggling to cope with passenger volumes.
Quote from: Mike K on November 01, 2022, 12:56:24 PMHarborne's not faring much better at the moment, journey on 6868 on the 23 took 50 mins to Centenary Square this morning - 12 mins late when I got on, 38 mins late by the time I got off.
Traffic seems worse than pre-covid levels at the moment, and a lot of peak hour 23/24 journeys are struggling to cope with passenger volumes.
That's not what I wanted to hear, I was considering using the 23 until the roadworks in Selly Oak are completed!
Slightly worse than 6829 this morning which ended up 34 mins late.
Quote from: MasterPlan on November 01, 2022, 01:42:16 PMThat's not what I wanted to hear, I was considering using the 23 until the roadworks in Selly Oak are completed!
Slightly worse than 6829 this morning which ended up 34 mins late.
Harborne High Street up to the Green Man lights is the section where the 23/24 lose most time. War Lane was also one long queue for most of its length this morning.
The 23 does seem to do better than the X21/22 in the evening rush hour though. The Wheeleys Road, Arthur Road and Edgbaston Park Road section is often a nightmare, whereas the route from Five Ways to Harborne is generally more free flowing.
6849, 6883 and 6889 running in convoy through Bangham Pit to Bartley Green.
Can't remember the last time I saw 3 together.
Not sure of fleet number caught the 15:37 48 yesterday from QE and it was slightly delayed should have been in West Bromwich for 16:28 there was a delay round the hospital due to traffic but once onto Harborne Road it didn't take longer long to get to Warley Woods and another slight delay due to road works, but the rain caused problems as people where crawling along.
Four 18s running together is a new one.
2136 about 20 minutes late on the 77/X15 tonight.
Quote from: 2206 on November 09, 2022, 05:03:33 PM2136 about 20 minutes late on the 77/X15 tonight.
20 minutes is nothing
Quote from: 18WilliamsLi on November 09, 2022, 05:33:00 PM20 minutes is nothing
20 minutes is a long time if your were at a bus stop waiting for it to be honest, considering its a irregular route.
Got to the bus station in West Bromwich at 9:50 the bus was due out 9:52 diamond bus 40 service and at this point a Diamond 40 bus pulls onto the overflow stand and the driver gets of the bus.
There was a few of us saying what the hell is the driver doing when they are due out in minute.
Quote from: Ginger66 on November 12, 2022, 11:09:06 AMGot to the bus station in West Bromwich at 9:50 the bus was due out 9:52 diamond bus 40 service and at this point a Diamond 40 bus pulls onto the overflow stand and the driver gets of the bus.
There was a few of us saying what the hell is the driver doing when they are due out in minute.
Are you suggesting the driver is not allowed to go to the toilet if they are desperate even if due out a minute later?
Without knowing the actual reason, don't automatically criticise the driver.
Quote from: Ginger66 on November 12, 2022, 11:09:06 AMGot to the bus station in West Bromwich at 9:50 the bus was due out 9:52 diamond bus 40 service and at this point a Diamond 40 bus pulls onto the overflow stand and the driver gets of the bus.
There was a few of us saying what the hell is the driver doing when they are due out in minute.
Timetables are just guides they are not set in stone , drivers only responsibility towards the timetable is not to run early, i personally could'nt careless about times not my problem i did'nt make them , my ownly objective is to finish my duty without incident as long as every one gets off my bus in one piece i have done my job.
6106 is 1 hour 15 minutes late
Quote from: 18WilliamsLi on November 12, 2022, 05:54:07 PM6106 is 1 hour 15 minutes late
Did you see that on the Init screem or are you just looking at BusTimes again?
Quote6106 is 1 hour 15 minutes late
It isn't
Slightly off topic question but is linked to buses running late as the diversion must cause havoc with the route but on WBA matchdays when the Birmingham Road is shut (only in one direction towards West Brom) where does the 74 divert to get back on route?
On the bus stops near the ground in that direction, it says no buses for up to 90 mins after the match. I've looked at a map and there are a number of possibilities for how to get to West Brom avoiding Birmingham Road and the motorway island, for example via Hamsted. Which route do buses take?
What sort of disruption does this cause the service as it must be pretty bad, particularly as in the other direction buses can run the normal route? A few years ago, buses could continue the normal route in both directions as only one lane was closed off for supporter pedestrians.
I have noticed this season at home games, more people are using the 74 to games which is nice to see but getting back to West Brom must be a pain having to wait for up to 90 mins for the Road to reopen.
Mad Friday lived up to its billing then,late evening Broad st services delays up to 40 minutes, RED ROUTE yeah rite, wonder if trams were joining in the fun
Quote from: j789 on November 12, 2022, 08:44:52 PMSlightly off topic question but is linked to buses running late as the diversion must cause havoc with the route but on WBA matchdays when the Birmingham Road is shut (only in one direction towards West Brom) where does the 74 divert to get back on route?
That's what I suspect many are thinking too.......
Quote from: j789 on November 12, 2022, 08:44:52 PMSlightly off topic question but is linked to buses running late as the diversion must cause havoc with the route but on WBA matchdays when the Birmingham Road is shut (only in one direction towards West Brom) where does the 74 divert to get back on route?
On the bus stops near the ground in that direction, it says no buses for up to 90 mins after the match. I've looked at a map and there are a number of possibilities for how to get to West Brom avoiding Birmingham Road and the motorway island, for example via Hamsted. Which route do buses take?
What sort of disruption does this cause the service as it must be pretty bad, particularly as in the other direction buses can run the normal route? A few years ago, buses could continue the normal route in both directions as only one lane was closed off for supporter pedestrians.
I have noticed this season at home games, more people are using the 74 to games which is nice to see but getting back to West Brom must be a pain having to wait for up to 90 mins for the Road to reopen.
74 football diversion is through smethwick theres an official one but drivers do all sorts
I know it's a Cov bus but didn't want to start a new topic over there.
Bystanders moved a car parked on double red lines on Gosford Road (FarGo/Stabby Village) to allow a bus to get through. Bus had been waiting 17 minutes for the car to be moved.
https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/bystanders-lift-parked-audi-hand-25982983
@Tony nice to see control thing sod Hayley green. 2 consecutive 4Hs in a row being terminated at Halesowen. This level of service is appalling
We're seeing delays of around 34 minutes for 6860 on the 23.
Edit: We're also being joined by 6877 and 6870.
The 0820 WN16 to Wolves was delayed for an hour in Common Road, Wombourne following an RTA at the crossroads. The bus was not involved but two cars were.
It seems the 40 from West Bromwich to Wednesbury was struggling as services where showing as running as normal according to bus station electronic display but 16:47, 17:02 and 17:15 did run to schedule.
As there was no buses arriving on my route I found a bus station staff member who just checked bus times to see which buses where tracking and only 3 buses on the 40 where running and it seemed like two where following each other.
In the end I had to catch the 4 to stone cross and noticed the All Saints Expressway was running smoothly so I could not understand why there was heavy delays to the service unless one or two drivers did not turn up on time.
The 17:02 journey is an NX one and was bus 820, but it didn't get to Wednesbury on it's previous journey until 17:22 so ended up missing an entire round trip out. I've no idea why, but I presume the two Diamond journeys either side suffered similarly.
All 3 NX buses were out there, none were actually missing. 813; 820 & 823 were the 3 buses.
All services using Dudley bus station are experiencing delays due to king st bus lane to the bus station being closed for the metro works no through road from the markets end either everything fog to use castle hill now also car drivers can't read or understand what road closed means
Never mind late running, how the 0809 from Merry Hill to Wolverhampton this morning which ran 10 minutes EARLY into Wolves.
No school traffic. Are they on adjusted timetables this week?
Quote from: Rachvince53 on February 20, 2023, 01:22:07 PMNever mind late running, how the 0809 from Merry Hill to Wolverhampton this morning which ran 10 minutes EARLY into Wolves.
The last timing point where the driver is expected to wait time is Springhill Lane. The driver left there on time at 08:58.
Quote from: ellspurs on February 20, 2023, 03:33:44 PMNo school traffic. Are they on adjusted timetables this week?
Revised timetables on certain services.
WN15 not listed so probably is less traffic, as the reason for arriving earlier than normal.
February half term timetables 2023 | NX Bus West Midlands (https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/service-updates/february-half-term-timetables-2023)
Quote from: 2206 on February 20, 2023, 03:52:46 PMRevised timetables on certain services.
WN15 not listed so probably is less traffic, as the reason for arriving earlier than normal.
February half term timetables 2023 | NX Bus West Midlands (https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/service-updates/february-half-term-timetables-2023)
During the day the 15 gets 18 minutes from Springhill Lane to Wolverhampton, that bus gets 33 minutes due to getting stuck in all the school traffic. On half term week it takes 10 minutes less. If the driver had waited any time on narrow Penn Road he would have caused the same traffic chaos the parents on the school run do. The driver did nothing wrong leaving every timing point within accepted limits but people sitting looking at tracking will still criticise.
Quote from: Tony on February 20, 2023, 04:45:04 PMDuring the day the 15 gets 18 minutes from Springhill Lane to Wolverhampton, that bus gets 33 minutes due to getting stuck in all the school traffic. On half term week it takes 10 minutes less. If the driver had waited any time on narrow Penn Road he would have caused the same traffic chaos the parents on the school run do. The driver did nothing wrong leaving every timing point within accepted limits but people sitting looking at tracking will still criticise.
I was waiting for the 0912 at Tesco. RUNNING 10 MINUTES EARLY is not acceptable under any circumstances. Just as well I had not got an appointment.
Quote from: Rachvince53 on February 20, 2023, 04:52:34 PMI was waiting for the 0912 at Tesco. RUNNING 10 MINUTES EARLY is not acceptable under any circumstances. Just as well I had not got an appointment.
Apologies, but where are you seeing the 0912 time listed? The last timed point before Wolverhampton was at the Springhill Lane junction which Tony mentioned above. Any time listed between that and the next timing point are estimated times. On the NX website it states "
If you click on 'see all stops' you will see some times in italics. These times are estimated and buses may not arrive at the time stated, they may run slightly earlier or slightly later".
I would always aim to be at the bus stop for the time at the previous timing point as that's the easiest way to ensure it shouldn't be passing early.
Times at BUS stops are just estimates not timing points.
Quote from: Rachvince53 on February 20, 2023, 04:52:34 PMI was waiting for the 0912 at Tesco. RUNNING 10 MINUTES EARLY is not acceptable under any circumstances. Just as well I had not got an appointment.
Where do you suggest the driver waits time after Springhill Lane?
Slightly early or late means 5 minutes to me, not 10. Perhaps the next time your waiting for a bus which has left the stop early you'll remember that.
Quote from: Rachvince53 on February 20, 2023, 06:29:38 PMSlightly early or late means 5 minutes to me, not 10. Perhaps the next time your waiting for a bus which has left the stop early you'll remember that.
They only wait at timing points on the 95 for instance thats terminus, fox and goose, hurst lane I think. Not any odd stop.
Maybe you should allow more time to get to your appointments to instead of blaming something else.
7517 X1 running almost 30 minutes late due to a broken down car on the Coventry Road by the Cargo Terminal. Traffic going back to just before the Arden Oak. Most X1s running with a 15 min plus delay.
Just a heads up from Monday King st Dudley will be shut one way for metro works buses from top church area will have to go Stafford street the inheadge and into Dudley bus station past the town hall and market
No 15:57 or 16:17 4H from Walsall to Hayley green. That combined with 2 diamond no shows has caused people to be waiting over 40 mins. And no there is no traffic disruption on route just a lack of drivers evidently
Since when is it acceptable to leave the terminus 7 mins early. 6880 the culprit this evening. Combined with the next bus not showing up at all, another evening of lovely 'service'.
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Quote from: MasterPlan on February 27, 2023, 05:45:16 PMSince when is it acceptable to leave the terminus 7 mins early. 6880 the culprit this evening. Combined with the next bus not showing up at all, another evening of lovely 'service'.
6880 hasn't left 7 minutes early on any trip, Bustimes will confirm that. So no idea what you are on about
I have edited my previous post as for some reason it wouldn't let me upload the screenshot previously.
Quote from: Tony on February 27, 2023, 06:04:04 PM6880 hasn't left 7 minutes early on any trip, Bustimes will confirm that. So no idea what you are on about
As the tracking for that 17:00 journey appears to show it spent 20 minutes on Moor Street Queensway and then another odd 15 mins in the University area. Maybe a problem with the vehicle or something?
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tnxb-6880?date=2023-02-27#journeys/390917771
Quote from: 2206 on February 27, 2023, 06:31:49 PMAs the tracking for that 17:00 journey appears to show it spent 20 minutes on Moor Street Queensway and then another odd 15 mins in the University area. Maybe a problem with the vehicle or something?
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tnxb-6880?date=2023-02-27#journeys/390917771
Looks like it was caught in heavy traffic
Quote from: Ginger66 on February 27, 2023, 08:40:04 PMLooks like it was caught in heavy traffic
The other X21/X22 journeys around that time don't seem to have experienced delays at that length.
https://bustimes.org/services/x22-birmingham-city-centre-university-california-b/vehicles?date=2023-02-27#journeys/390917776
This one left later and got to University Station 15 minutes before it appears.
Vehicle problem would probably explain why that journey didn't run correctly.
I remember a couple of months ago an arriva E400 cut out and wouldn't restart in the Sutton Parade, bringing the town centre to a halt for a short time until they got it moving again for instance. But these things do happen.
Quote from: MasterPlan on February 27, 2023, 05:45:16 PMSince when is it acceptable to leave the terminus 7 mins early. 6880 the culprit this evening. Combined with the next bus not showing up at all, another evening of lovely 'service'.
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That hasn't left 7 mins early, the time shown in the actual time column just shows that the bus is there at that stop.at that time, it doesn't mean its departed that stop yet.
Due to an overturned lorry on the M6 and subsequent closure south of J10, service 529 is being significantly delayed as traffic diverts through Walsall and Wolverhampton.
Quote from: Rachvince53 on February 28, 2023, 11:13:26 AMDue to an overturned lorry on the M6 and subsequent closure south of J10, service 529 is being significantly delayed as traffic diverts through Walsall and Wolverhampton.
28/94/95 were experiencing delays as well it seems around J5.
1863 - BX58 SYH – National Express West Midlands – bustimes.org (https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tnxb-pb-1863?date=2023-02-28#journeys/391174034)
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tnxb-wn-4927?date=2023-02-28#journeys/391174343
4927 ran in service to Chelmsley on the 09:47 95 and then dead back to City.
Quote from: Rachvince53 on February 28, 2023, 11:13:26 AMDue to an overturned lorry on the M6 and subsequent closure south of J10, service 529 is being significantly delayed as traffic diverts through Walsall and Wolverhampton.
Good job I'm off work for 2 weeks then!
Knock on effect elsewhere, as I had to wait ages for a 9 at Bloxwich.
The 810 from Walsall didn't arrive at Bloxwich till about 920am.
Got off at Wednesfield, intending to go on towards Dudley, but due to an issue at home, which requires me to be back between 12 & 1, have only got as far as Bilston.
Waiting for a 326 back to Bloxwich, the 1136 is currently running 10 - 15 minutes late!
The 57 I caught from Wednesfield to Bilston was surprisingly driven by the driver from a few weeks back when the fire at Willenhall happened, & they were driving the 326!
I'm loving the improvement on service updates on NX website
48 | West Bromwich - Q.E. Hospital
We are sorry but services departing at 00:12, 10:43, 12:37, 15:13, 17:18, and 23:35 may not run today, please plan to use a different journey than those shown. Check back later as journeys affected could change.
It beats this
28 | Heartlands Hospital - Great Barr
Services between 17:53 and 19:50 are affected today on the 28, please allow more time for your journey.
The one for the 48 is a a lot better and gives a good indication of what services are effected but the 28 just says between these times.
Quote from: Ginger66 on February 28, 2023, 08:20:58 PMI'm loving the improvement on service updates on NX website
48 | West Bromwich - Q.E. Hospital
We are sorry but services departing at 00:12, 10:43, 12:37, 15:13, 17:18, and 23:35 may not run today, please plan to use a different journey than those shown. Check back later as journeys affected could change.
It beats this
28 | Heartlands Hospital - Great Barr
Services between 17:53 and 19:50 are affected today on the 28, please allow more time for your journey.
The one for the 48 is a a lot better and gives a good indication of what services are effected but the 28 just says between these times.
It might be of some use if it said where those journeys were departing from and in what direction.
Looking at the service disruptions today, the list for the Birmingham 45 is huge (19 journeys in total).
6978 left Cape Hill 8 minutes early
6880 again, this time leaving 8 mins early, and yes I saw it with my own two eyes. Absolute joke.
Caravan fire at Horseley Fields by railway bridge - could cause delays to services 529 and 82 as the road is closed. (Also may delay rail services). Mentioned on Radio 2 travel news this morning
Quote from: Rachvince53 on March 08, 2023, 10:48:11 AMCaravan fire at Horseley Fields by railway bridge - could cause delays to services 529 and 82 as the road is closed. (Also may delay rail services). Mentioned on Radio 2 travel news this morning
Reopened around 1130am.
Harborne high street looks littered with the whole pvr of the 23 and 24 atm
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 09, 2023, 09:26:08 AMHarborne high street looks littered with the whole pvr of the 23 and 24 atm
NXWM website says that the 23/24 are currently running between Five Ways and Westbourne Road only. Hardly seems worth it if that is the case.
EDIT - looks like there are buses running along the length of both routes but heavily disrupted.
Most bus services would have been running very late during the morning peak, as the weather conditions didn't put off a lot of motorists.
I missed the 3 this morning, as it seems it was forced to miss out Trittiford Road, going direct via Yardley Wood Road instead.
Managed to get up to Billesley Common to get the next 2, which was only a couple of minutes late, but still then took over half an hour to get to the Coldbath Road stop by Swanshurst Lane!
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tnxb-pb-1931?date=2023-03-09#journeys/395810650
I had to restrain myself though, as I overheard another passenger having a phone conversation with someone, they were complaining that two buses 'hadn't turned up' and now this one was 'very late' and "taking ages". What angered me was that they were telling this person "it's another piss-poor excuse to put on a shoddy service".
In my head I'm thinking "WTF?!"
It annoyed me because this kind of mentality is shared amongst a great number of people - "the buses are late or slow moving because it's the driver's fault"
In an alternative reality, I would have turned round and said "excuse me, but look outside the f**king window at what's going on? Is this really the driver's or bus company's fault?"
Sometimes I really despair at it all.
1885 has been running almost 10 minutes early at points on the 4H. Mind due the previous 4H failed to operate.
Quote from: Stu on March 09, 2023, 07:24:36 PMMost bus services would have been running very late during the morning peak, as the weather conditions didn't put off a lot of motorists.
I missed the 3 this morning, as it seems it was forced to miss out Trittiford Road, going direct via Yardley Wood Road instead.
Managed to get up to Billesley Common to get the next 2, which was only a couple of minutes late, but still then took over half an hour to get to the Coldbath Road stop by Swanshurst Lane!
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tnxb-pb-1931?date=2023-03-09#journeys/395810650
I had to restrain myself though, as I overheard another passenger having a phone conversation with someone, they were complaining that two buses 'hadn't turned up' and now this one was 'very late' and "taking ages". What angered me was that they were telling this person "it's another piss-poor excuse to put on a shoddy service".
In my head I'm thinking "WTF?!"
It annoyed me because this kind of mentality is shared amongst a great number of people - "the buses are late or slow moving because it's the driver's fault"
In an alternative reality, I would have turned round and said "excuse me, but look outside the f**king window at what's going on? Is this really the driver's or bus company's fault?"
Sometimes I really despair at it all.
Know the feeling, in previous years I have answered the phone where I work and the person on the other end ask if the uni is open. (1) I've answered the phone so it's an indication that the building is open and these are supposed to be mature students.
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We don't get the much snow these days and if we do it last a few days not weeks on end and we get milder winters.
If we look at the 60's/70's/80's a car was a luxury item but today it's an essential piece of equipment to get from a to b.
6:17 (51) first bus of the day never ran this morning. I wouldn't have minded as such but on a Sunday you'd expect with less needed it would run...
Quote from: Jack on March 12, 2023, 07:21:50 AM6:17 (51) first bus of the day never ran this morning. I wouldn't have minded as such but on a Sunday you'd expect with less needed it would run...
A driver can go sick overnight just as much on a Sunday as a weekday.
Lots of angry passengers in Solihull this evening waiting for the 4A.
Looking at bustimes, as far as I can tell there were no 4As from Solihull after the 15:13 departure. That's 10 journeys after the 15:13 until the last one at 19:18.
Plenty of Not In Service buses around too, all Acocks Green based. Are they going on strike early?
i checked the 4/4A at lunchtime ironically and there were 6 on the 4 and 3 on the 4A
Today was manic eastwards from town this evening. So much traffic and practically every bus was rammed heading out of town.
If there was ever justification for increased government spending for transport, this is it. Second city of the UK, absolutely piss poor public transport, unacceptable.
6926 just left Stourbridge 22 minutes late on 9 this is unusual its usually ontime on Sundays
Lots of buses missing off the 4/4A, Carrs Lane stop is rammed full...
Quote from: Jack on April 22, 2023, 12:33:34 PMLots of buses missing off the 4/4A, Carrs Lane stop is rammed full...
It's Eid. Large amount of drivers probably not in today.
Very long delays on M6 northbound between M5 and M54 due to earlier accident. AA says journey times of 88 minutes are possible. This will impact on local roads as traffic tries to find alternative routes.
Unsure why 1888 is running up to 8 minutes early on the 4H. Makes a change from the usual late running I suppose. Left West Brom 7 early
I was on 1835 earlier and the driver was leaving his timing points about 2 minutes early I thought your only meant to leave 1 minutes early
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 06, 2023, 12:34:43 PMUnsure why 1888 is running up to 8 minutes early on the 4H. Makes a change from the usual late running I suppose. Left West Brom 7 early
Any reason for this
@Tony noticed on his return trip to Walsall other than leaving Hayley green 4 minutes early he kept ontime to walsall
Quote from: 18WilliamsLi on May 07, 2023, 08:29:08 PMI was on 1835 earlier and the driver was leaving his timing points about 2 minutes early I thought your only meant to leave 1 minutes early
You are not allowed to leave any timing point early by any margin or so I have been instructed by my garage so when I roll up to my timing points I aim to leave exactly as the clock rolls over to the time specified on my running board and ticket machine
Sister has been waiting in Wednesfield since 605pm for a 9 back to Bloxwich.
Edit - Ones just turned up!
Will no doubt get an earbending when she comes in!
Quote from: Westy on May 17, 2023, 06:37:29 PMSister has been waiting in Wednesfield since 605pm for a 9 back to Bloxwich.
Edit - Ones just turned up!
Will no doubt get an earbending when she comes in!
Where is the bus? (or "How to avoid unneccessary waiting at bus stops")https://wmbu.org.uk/2023/04/where-is-the-bus-or-how-to-avoid-unneccessary-waiting-at-bus-stops/:laugh:
21:00 X1 from Coventry has failed to run. Joke.
Brownhills high street has a one way system due to roadworks so any service through brownhills is 30 mins late today
WN 15/16 affected badly by the closure of the A449 in Wall Heath for surface dressing. Eg I caught the 1310 to Merry Hill from Wolves at....1355. At least two buses past me heading to Wolves out of service to try and claw some of the lost time back.
94/95 are experiencing major delays this afternoon between Saltley Gate and Drews Lane. Due to roadworks/temporary lights
865 on the midnight 4H running 17 mins late
Expect severe delays to WN59 as Lichfield Road is closed in Wednesfield between Moathouse Lane and Lancaster pub due to serious accident.
Quote from: Wumpty on July 12, 2023, 04:46:13 PMExpect severe delays to WN59 as Lichfield Road is closed in Wednesfield between Moathouse Lane and Lancaster pub due to serious accident.
Suppose that will affect the 9 as well?
Quote from: Westy on July 12, 2023, 06:39:04 PMSuppose that will affect the 9 as well?
Apologies
@Westy - it would have done.
1851 keeps leaving all his timings points 2 or 3 minutes early I believe that driver is always doing it alot in also fact a few weeks ago I missed the 4m due to because he was 6 minutes early surely he can't get away with it forever
Quote from: 18WilliamsLi on July 13, 2023, 12:46:46 PM1851 keeps leaving all his timings points 2 or 3 minutes early I believe that driver is always doing it alot in also fact a few weeks ago I missed the 4m due to because he was 6 minutes early surely he can't get away with it forever
Maybe contact national express direct if it's the same driver ?
Quote from: Jack6101 on July 13, 2023, 01:25:43 PMMaybe contact national express direct if it's the same driver ?
It's different drivers it's just that loads of drivers are leaving timing points early making people suffer waiting for following 4
Quote from: 18WilliamsLi on July 13, 2023, 12:46:46 PM1851 keeps leaving all his timings points 2 or 3 minutes early I believe that driver is always doing it alot in also fact a few weeks ago I missed the 4m due to because he was 6 minutes early surely he can't get away with it forever
Interesting the 10:37 4H from Walsall was seen running early. Arrived at terminus 5 minutes early
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 13, 2023, 09:12:07 PMInteresting the 10:37 4H from Walsall was seen running early. Arrived at terminus 5 minutes early
Quite a few drivers have been leaving early everywhere probably because Walsall garage don't ever call them in there obviously not strict not fair on passengers who miss bus and have to wait 20 minutes for following 4m
Quote from: 18WilliamsLi on July 13, 2023, 09:16:57 PMQuite a few drivers have been leaving early everywhere probably because Walsall garage don't ever call them in there obviously not strict not fair on passengers who miss bus and have to wait 20 minutes for following 4m
'Everywhere!'
Have you been stood at every bus stop along the route then to actually witness this happening or are you looking at a computer screen that you know doesn't always show 100% accurate data?
Absolutely ridiculous statement.
Quote from: j789 on July 13, 2023, 09:53:38 PM'Everywhere!'
Have you been stood at every bus stop along the route then to actually witness this happening or are you looking at a computer screen that you know doesn't always show 100% accurate data?
Absolutely ridiculous statement.
I've seen it happen I've been on the bus I've seen them !!
Quote from: 18WilliamsLi on July 13, 2023, 10:16:13 PMI've seen it happen I've been on the bus I've seen them !!
I wish I had the time to sit on bus routes end to end all day checking to see if they are running 2 minutes early.
Perhaps get yourself a job as a route manager if you feel the service is really that bad where 'every' bus is running early (which it obviously isn't!)
Quote from: 18WilliamsLi on July 13, 2023, 10:16:13 PMI've seen it happen I've been on the bus I've seen them !!
Okay and you've seen all of them in your own eyes, busy trotting about I'm sure...
There's a lot more to life than seeing if a bus is running 2 minutes early on BusTimes... and alot better things to do.
I've seen 6:30am X51 departing 4 minutes early from the city centre two days ago.
Disappointing that the 12:08 76 instead of doing full route only went to yardley wood - then went down to depot rather than continuing to Solihull. Don't tell me there's still a shortage of drivers with the wacky wages offered
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 22, 2023, 09:54:19 PMDisappointing that the 12:08 76 instead of doing full route only went to yardley wood - then went down to depot rather than continuing to Solihull. Don't tell me there's still a shortage of drivers with the wacky wages offered
Could have been for any reason, not just driver shortage. Were you on the bus? If so why didn't you ask the driver? If not, why are you even asking this question?
Passenger could have thrown up on the bus making it a health hazard to continue. Could have been a semi- urgent vehicle fault that didn't warrant a full breakdown but needed returning to the garage. Lots of reasons for going out of service crop up occasionally but yes let's jump straight to the criticism first.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 22, 2023, 09:54:19 PMDisappointing that the 12:08 76 instead of doing full route only went to yardley wood - then went down to depot rather than continuing to Solihull. Don't tell me there's still a shortage of drivers with the wacky wages offered
Wages not wacky. Top rate is approximately £12.75 per hour at NX if you include the gaps in between driving.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 22, 2023, 09:54:19 PMDisappointing that the 12:08 76 instead of doing full route only went to yardley wood - then went down to depot rather than continuing to Solihull. Don't tell me there's still a shortage of drivers with the wacky wages offered
I have had a vehicle or two on my duties that I have had to unload passengers off and return it to depot because of a fault that has occurred whilst I have been on the road. So without proper information or facts the criticism of us drivers is unjust
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 22, 2023, 09:54:19 PMDisappointing that the 12:08 76 instead of doing full route only went to yardley wood - then went down to depot rather than continuing to Solihull. Don't tell me there's still a shortage of drivers with the wacky wages offered
wacky wages please clarify, last few weeks new T&Cs have been implemented with reduction in the basic week most drivers losing around £25 a week on average, NX BANGING ON ABOUT IMPROVED HOURLY RATE ETC, when you add up the compass not great imo, compared to the 38 hour week 7.36 average. As an older driver i voted NO for the new T&Cs so awful imo how can you vote yes without having all the details, the 9 page document was only released recently after many drivers sent emails to UNITE. FROM Nov the basic will be reduced further to 35.5/36.5 hrs.
I would like to see the return of paid breaks which we had at WB many moons a go, it should be from book on to book off paid imo
Quote from: 2900 on July 23, 2023, 07:32:54 AMwacky wages please clarify, last few weeks new T&Cs have been implemented with reduction in the basic week most drivers losing around £25 a week on average, NX BANGING ON ABOUT IMPROVED HOURLY RATE ETC, when you add up the compass not great imo, compared to the 38 hour week 7.36 average. As an older driver i voted NO for the new T&Cs so awful imo how can you vote yes without having all the details, the 9 page document was only released recently after many drivers sent emails to UNITE. FROM Nov the basic will be reduced further to 35.5/36.5 hrs.
I would like to see the return of paid breaks which we had at WB many moons a go, it should be from book on to book off paid imo
Agreed, the only way the industry will retain drivers is to pay book on to book off times
Quote from: 2900 on July 23, 2023, 07:32:54 AMwacky wages please clarify, last few weeks new T&Cs have been implemented with reduction in the basic week most drivers losing around £25 a week on average, NX BANGING ON ABOUT IMPROVED HOURLY RATE ETC, when you add up the compass not great imo, compared to the 38 hour week 7.36 average. As an older driver i voted NO for the new T&Cs so awful imo how can you vote yes without having all the details, the 9 page document was only released recently after many drivers sent emails to UNITE. FROM Nov the basic will be reduced further to 35.5/36.5 hrs.
I would like to see the return of paid breaks which we had at WB many moons a go, it should be from book on to book off paid imo
Are we likely to see more industrial action taken in the next few months then?
On Tile Cross Road within the last hour or so, I had three 97s pass me as I drove up (one with a Paramount+ ad, one platinum, one crimson) and another at the traffic lights waiting to turn in (red/white). All were heading to Chelmsley Wood and all of them had passengers on. Any known problems on this route today?
Quote from: ellspurs on July 24, 2023, 03:16:48 PMOn Tile Cross Road within the last hour or so, I had three 97s pass me as I drove up (one with a Paramount+ ad, one platinum, one crimson) and another at the traffic lights waiting to turn in (red/white). All were heading to Chelmsley Wood and all of them had passengers on. Any known problems on this route today?
Seeing three 97's together isn't really rare... it's common they bunch up like the 11's...
Quote from: ellspurs on July 24, 2023, 03:16:48 PMOn Tile Cross Road within the last hour or so, I had three 97s pass me as I drove up (one with a Paramount+ ad, one platinum, one crimson) and another at the traffic lights waiting to turn in (red/white). All were heading to Chelmsley Wood and all of them had passengers on. Any known problems on this route today?
That's normal, the 97 runs in twos/threes or when it's very bad fours. The section from Birmingham to Heartlands has a lot of people and not much space for the buses to fit through.
Has there been issues in the Willenhall area earlier?
Both the 37 & 326 seem to have their buses in the 'wrong place', if you believe Bustimes?
In other words, do I stay for a 326 or catch a 529 instead?
And todays worst bus service is the... X1. 1 hour people were waiting from Coventry. They was coming to Coventry then parking up before putting NIS and driving off. I caught 6838 which came round 20 minutes late and was basically full as soon as it left Coventry. Round the airport it had to refuse passengers because it was so packed. The one that should have been after 6838 came into Coventry on time and then parked in Coventry for what must have been 40 minutes. 7522 left NIS and went towards Birmingham. 4911 randomly appeared as we got to Birmingham as an X1 - not a clue where that gained service from. Left NIS after arriving into Birmingham anyway.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 05, 2023, 06:12:27 PMAnd todays worst bus service is the... X1. 1 hour people were waiting from Coventry. They was coming to Coventry then parking up before putting NIS and driving off. I caught 6838 which came round 20 minutes late and was basically full as soon as it left Coventry. Round the airport it had to refuse passengers because it was so packed. The one that should have been after 6838 came into Coventry on time and then parked in Coventry for what must have been 40 minutes. 7522 left NIS and went towards Birmingham. 4911 randomly appeared as we got to Birmingham as an X1 - not a clue where that gained service from. Left NIS after arriving into Birmingham anyway.
You do know that the A45 is closed between Stonebridge and Allesley don't you?
Quote from: Stu on August 05, 2023, 06:20:56 PMYou do know that the A45 is closed between Stonebridge and Allesley don't you?
I travelled the whole route so yes - maximum amount of time you lose is 5 minutes though! Doesn't excuse the hour gap in service
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 05, 2023, 06:12:27 PMAnd todays worst bus service is the... X1. 1 hour people were waiting from Coventry. They was coming to Coventry then parking up before putting NIS and driving off. I caught 6838 which came round 20 minutes late and was basically full as soon as it left Coventry. Round the airport it had to refuse passengers because it was so packed. The one that should have been after 6838 came into Coventry on time and then parked in Coventry for what must have been 40 minutes. 7522 left NIS and went towards Birmingham. 4911 randomly appeared as we got to Birmingham as an X1 - not a clue where that gained service from. Left NIS after arriving into Birmingham anyway.
The X1 I caught from work today was no more than a couple minutes late from Coventry, I did see three buses bunched on Bustimes there but it looked like they had been adjusted. 4911 had been out since the morning...
Check bus times for a bus from Coventry between 2:15 and 3:15. You'll struggle to locate one
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 05, 2023, 09:49:59 PMCheck bus times for a bus from Coventry between 2:15 and 3:15. You'll struggle to locate one
Traffic chaos in Birmingham City Centre earlier this afternoon caused a lot of services to run very late. My duty on the 60 was on average 15 mins late just trying to get out of City
21:46 X2 from Solihull appears to be a no show tonight... nice to see NX are happy to leave people stranded of an evening...
Digbeth (as usual) has completely made one part of the City gridlocked...
Be nice if NX would divert services instead of send them through this on a Saturday daytime outbound.
Sat on 6109 which is 25 minutes late, and is still outside of Moor Street Station...
Because bull ring outside moor st is completely gridlocked both directions
Quote from: cris 99 on August 26, 2023, 03:12:25 PMBecause bull ring outside moor st is completely gridlocked both directions
Quote from: Jack on August 26, 2023, 02:57:33 PMDigbeth (as usual) has completely made one part of the City gridlocked...
Be nice if NX would divert services instead of send them through this on a Saturday daytime outbound.
Sat on 6109 which is 25 minutes late, and is still outside of Moor Street Station...
As noted elsewhere, a RTC between a bus and taxi has occurred in Carrs Lane, adding to the delays.
Quote from: Rachvince53 on August 26, 2023, 05:33:46 PMAs noted elsewhere, a RTC between a bus and taxi has occurred in Carrs Lane, adding to the delays.
I was there when it happened, taxi parked in the road and 4925 tried to get past and bang! Taxi was at fault.
Right when it was starting to move again as well.
X1/X2 are a mess, loads of angry people in the City, to top it off 6892 doesn't want to move, everyone gets on 6846, then 6892 drives off in service.
Absolute joke, the drivers are also clueless, going to be making a complaint at this point, wonder how Coventry will sort the mess out that is the X1.
Quote from: Jack on September 01, 2023, 12:47:19 PMX1/X2 are a mess, loads of angry people in the City, to top it off 6892 doesn't want to move, everyone gets on 6846, then 6892 drives off in service.
Absolute joke, the drivers are also clueless, going to be making a complaint at this point, wonder how Coventry will sort the mess out that is the X1.
Why is it the drivers fault ALF?
Quote from: Jack on September 01, 2023, 12:47:19 PMX1/X2 are a mess, loads of angry people in the City, to top it off 6892 doesn't want to move, everyone gets on 6846, then 6892 drives off in service.
Absolute joke, the drivers are also clueless, going to be making a complaint at this point, wonder how Coventry will sort the mess out that is the X1.
As a driver myself how are we supposed to know why busses have not turned up? All we know for certain is what is going on with the bus we are physically driving ourselves. And as for the remark of drivers being clueless why don't YOU get your PCV licence and become a driver and experience what we have to put up with on a day to day basis with traffic, road works, temporary diversions etc instead of sitting behind a keyboard/phone screen.
Quote from: Jack on September 01, 2023, 12:47:19 PMX1/X2 are a mess, loads of angry people in the City, to top it off 6892 doesn't want to move, everyone gets on 6846, then 6892 drives off in service.
Absolute joke, the drivers are also clueless, going to be making a complaint at this point, wonder how Coventry will sort the mess out that is the X1.
You do have to realise the trains are on strike today and tomorrow so the X1 will see more filled capacity meaning they will become late
Quote from: dw1308 on September 01, 2023, 08:17:22 PMAs a driver myself how are we supposed to know why busses have not turned up? All we know for certain is what is going on with the bus we are physically driving ourselves. And as for the remark of drivers being clueless why don't YOU get your PCV licence and become a driver and experience what we have to put up with on a day to day basis with traffic, road works, temporary diversions etc instead of sitting behind a keyboard/phone screen.
And who was sitting behind a keyboard/phone screen?! I was standing there myself watching as 6892 didn't know what to do, no relief and also the inspectors not being there. Yes i know there's a rail strike too, but again why not adjust buses to then become more reliable instead of make them a mess. The X1 has been a nightmare all day, simple. I don't see 'no driver shortage' and it's school holidays why isn't there ever extra buses out to help. And yes I am frustrated as it's made me and other people late for work and appointments.
Quote from: Jack on September 01, 2023, 09:33:44 PMAnd who was sitting behind a keyboard/phone screen?! I was standing there myself watching as 6892 didn't know what to do, no relief and also the inspectors not being there. Yes i know there's a rail strike too, but again why not adjust buses to then become more reliable instead of make them a mess. The X1 has been a nightmare all day, simple. I don't see 'no driver shortage' and it's school holidays why isn't there ever extra buses out to help. And yes I am frustrated as it's made me and other people late for work and appointments.
All the X1s I saw all had drivers whilst I was waiting for my 60 duty, the garage can't pull drivers out of thin air to cover a duty especially if the driver booked to take that duty is displaced because of traffic or drivers hours. Of course you wouldn't see "no driver shortage" as most of us are working overtime and pulling drivers from other garages to cover the lack of current drivers. Garage can't just send out 'extra' busses because there isn't any extra buses plain and simple. I don't know how far along the X1 route you travel but if its not past Sheldon wheatsheaf why not catch the 60 service?
Quote from: dw1308 on September 01, 2023, 09:44:23 PMAll the X1s I saw all had drivers whilst I was waiting for my 60 duty, the garage can't pull drivers out of thin air to cover a duty especially if the driver booked to take that duty is displaced because of traffic or drivers hours. Of course you wouldn't see "no driver shortage" as most of us are working overtime and pulling drivers from other garages to cover the lack of current drivers. Garage can't just send out 'extra' busses because there isn't any extra buses plain and simple. I don't know how far along the X1 route you travel but if it's not past Sheldon wheatsheaf why not catch the 60 service?
My main gripe is with the X2, yes I am well aware about the X1. No relief and yet drivers wonder why passengers get ratty. The driver of 6892 let us all on knowing the bus wouldn't move, revving the hell of it. Until me and another passenger demanded he opened the doors so we can board 6846 and saying that 6892 has broken down, then once we all got off he drives off with 'X2 Solihull Town' on the destination. Absolute joke.
Why should I catch the 60? I don't want to be sitting through Small Heath traffic when I can be in Yardley half the time the 60 will take at that time of day when it's prayer time.
Quote from: Jack on September 01, 2023, 09:48:06 PMMy main gripe is with the X2, yes I am well aware about the X1. No relief and yet drivers wonder why passengers get ratty. The driver of 6892 let us all on knowing the bus wouldn't move, revving the hell of it. Until me and another passenger demanded he opened the doors so we can board 6846 and saying that 6892 has broken down, then once we all got off he drives off with 'X2 Solihull Town' on the destination. Absolute joke.
Why should I catch the 60? I don't want to be sitting through Small Heath traffic when I can be in Yardley half the time the 60 will take at that time of day when it's prayer time.
Another I'll informed comment. Drivers do not ' let passengers on knowing it is not going anywhere ', no driver wants the hassle of having to ask everyone to get off. What job do you do? Would you like people mind reading what you are thinking badly?
Quote from: Jack on September 01, 2023, 09:48:06 PMMy main gripe is with the X2, yes I am well aware about the X1. No relief and yet drivers wonder why passengers get ratty. The driver of 6892 let us all on knowing the bus wouldn't move, revving the hell of it. Until me and another passenger demanded he opened the doors so we can board 6846 and saying that 6892 has broken down, then once we all got off he drives off with 'X2 Solihull Town' on the destination. Absolute joke.
Why should I catch the 60? I don't want to be sitting through Small Heath traffic when I can be in Yardley half the time the 60 will take at that time of day when it's prayer time.
So when there is no relief do you not think us drivers get annoyed? If anything we get more annoyed than you passengers because we either want to have our break or finish our duty. Have you considered there could have been a fault with the vehicle that once rectified the driver received instruction from garage to resume service as the X2. Why would you not use all available services to get to your destination if your destination is served by 3 different services. This is what passengers do not understand as drivers we are given instructions over the radio which we have to follow which often means us drivers are not flavour of the month with passengers but at the end of the day we are doing our job
4 way temporary traffic lights in Harborne seem to have the 23/4 running in pairs.
Nice to see that the 22:30 and 22:32 departures of the X51 and 997 are either extremely late or a no show, joke on a evening...
Quote from: Jack on September 07, 2023, 10:15:29 PMNice to see that the 22:30 and 22:32 departures of the X51 and 997 are either extremely late or a no show, joke on a evening...
There is always a reason maybe both buses broke down as loads of breakdowns tonight due to heat
Quote from: 18WilliamsLi on September 07, 2023, 10:17:22 PMThere is always a reason maybe both buses broke down as loads of breakdowns tonight due to heat
I very much doubt that, 6753 is 35 minutes late, 1835 was 24 minutes late and has disappeared off bustimes, typical NX leaving people stranded in the evenings...
Looks like 1835 ran dead from Walsall to Brum, makes a change as in NX standard it has to run the full route and become even more late...
Forgot to post earlier
The 15:46 (833) was running 28 Minutes late followed the 16:06 (4991) that was only running 6 minutes late both on WN4 this afternoon
4743 left dudley this evening 45 mins late
4773 on the 12s ran late most of late morning early afternoon, tired engine no guts for hills at all city rd huge struggle up, i got my 30 minutes of overtime payment so i,m not bothered. engineers say fit for service i drive them till they break down, then i put my feet up and chill out to BBC sounds.
The 4 corridor was hit badly this morning due to the accident on the motorway. Saw 2 4Hs in convoy one 40 mins and one an hour late
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 12, 2023, 08:31:01 PMThe 4 corridor was hit badly this morning due to the accident on the motorway. Saw 2 4Hs in convoy one 40 mins and one an hour late
Every route anywhere near Junction 1 of the M5 or Junction 7 of the M6 was.
I took 7517 back from the paint shop to BC this morning and was very grateful to the bus priority on the A34.
Two nights now (Monday and Tuesday) the 907 from City at 1620, this comes off school bus service 814 (John Wilmot School dep 1520 to Stockland Green arr 1556), it never showed on Monday, Tuesday (I had to go home a different way) 7512 which was the bus allocated finally left City at 1656 !
This was a common problem in the last summer school term and if the 814 is late then it's a knock on effect for the 907 at 1620, I've asked many times for this to be changed but nothing has. Today is Wednesday, will the 1620 be there today, I'm not confident.
X21 and X22 all over the place again today, massive traffic buiid up along Arthur Road and Edgbaston Park Road. No X21s to Bartley Green between 4:20 and 5:40 by the looks of it, and currently 3 X22s stuck not far from each other outbound.
Not sure what the answer is to be honest but that right turn from Edgbaston Park Road to Church Road needs banning, or at least temporarily during peak hours as it slows everything down inbound.
Quote from: MasterPlan on September 20, 2023, 05:37:57 PMX21 and X22 all over the place again today, massive traffic buiid up along Arthur Road and Edgbaston Park Road. No X21s to Bartley Green between 4:20 and 5:40 by the looks of it, and currently 3 X22s stuck not far from each other outbound.
Not sure what the answer is to be honest but that right turn from Edgbaston Park Road to Church Road needs banning, or at least temporarily during peak hours as it slows everything down inbound.
I suspect the extra traffic using those roads to avoid Harborne Road, which yet again has roadworks and temporary 3 way lights near Harborne Academy, and is down to a single lane at Highfield Road on the one way section inbound, can't be helping matters there.
23 and 24 have been heavily delayed in the morning peak towards town this week, but not bad outbound in the evenings.
997's badly late this afternoon.
X10s running an hour late - seems bad traffic in pensnett.
51 and X51 services appear to be running very late.
Google is reporting an accident at Perry Barr on the a34/Birchfield Road and at Scott Arms on the Queslett Road.
Quote from: ellspurs on October 04, 2023, 05:45:41 PMGoogle is reporting an accident at Perry Barr on the a34/Birchfield Road and at Scott Arms on the Queslett Road.
Parts of the City Centre are gridlocked.
Just looking some buses are running nearly 2 hours late after getting delayed both inbound and outbound from City
THe ones on the A34 don't seem to be moving at all (yes I'm bus times spotting :grin: )
Can see a few of those buses having to be parked up soon for exceeding driving hours
Not seen it this bad since we had the WW2 bomb in Aston a few years back
Quote from: John on October 04, 2023, 05:51:46 PMJust looking some buses are running nearly 2 hours late after getting delayed both inbound and outbound from City
THe ones on the A34 don't seem to be moving at all (yes I'm bus times spotting :grin: )
Can see a few of those buses having to be parked up soon for exceeding driving hours
Not seen it this bad since we had the WW2 bomb in Aston a few years back
I've just come home on the X51 (no trains). It looks like there may have been a vehicle/pedestrian on the exit of the Perry barr underpass. The underpass is closed in both directions and the normal road is also closed towards city with services having to use Witton Road
Quote from: John on October 04, 2023, 05:51:46 PMJust looking some buses are running nearly 2 hours late after getting delayed both inbound and outbound from City
THe ones on the A34 don't seem to be moving at all (yes I'm bus times spotting :grin: )
Can see a few of those buses having to be parked up soon for exceeding driving hours
Not seen it this bad since we had the WW2 bomb in Aston a few years back
I've just come off 6870 running about 50 mins late with 6861 just behind not tracking but I'd guess about 30 mins late if it's the journey after.
City Centre was horrendous as you say, I'm hoping that was a one off.
Quote from: MasterPlan on October 04, 2023, 06:43:22 PMI've just come off 6870 running about 50 mins late with 6861 just behind not tracking but I'd guess about 30 mins late if it's the journey after.
City Centre was horrendous as you say, I'm hoping that was a one off.
Well I hope car/pedestrian incidents are one offs as well!
Quote from: Tony on October 04, 2023, 06:44:19 PMWell I hope car/pedestrian incidents are one offs as well!
Ah I didn't see that earlier comment.
Stratford Road services being heavily disrupted due to an accident in Sparkbrook.
From what I heard as I walked past, someone had been knocked over by car, quite seriously it appeared, may have been a fatality.
Road was blocked in both directions with a large number of buses all stuck.
Screenshot 2023-10-04 at 19-23-34 Map – bustimes.org.png
Stratford Road has just cleared
E090 running 31 minutes late on CV 18 due to the diversion around Spon End.
Stones Stanton Road traffic battering the CV 21s with some running 30+ late.
Buses leaving Dudley look a mess. 11/11A delayed by an hour
Due to the carnage caused by whatever was going on on Moor Street this evening I actually gave up on waiting for a 23 and walked part of the way home. Eventually picked up a bus that I assume must have started service from Five Ways, Calthorpe Road as it wasn't busy.
Haven't seen things that bad in a long time.
Quote from: Mike K on October 16, 2023, 06:39:29 PMDue to the carnage caused by whatever was going on on Moor Street this evening I actually gave up on waiting for a 23 and walked part of the way home. Eventually picked up a bus that I assume must have started service from Five Ways, Calthorpe Road as it wasn't busy.
Haven't seen things that bad in a long time.
Does anybody know what actually happened?
I understand there was chaos this morning due to a crane:
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/traffic-chaos-birmingham-city-centre-27918817
According to NX West Midlands on Twitter, Priory Queensway is scheduled to be closed from Weds 18th from 1:30am to 4:30am "in preparation for crane lift"
Quote from: Mike K on October 16, 2023, 06:39:29 PMDue to the carnage caused by whatever was going on on Moor Street this evening I actually gave up on waiting for a 23 and walked part of the way home. Eventually picked up a bus that I assume must have started service from Five Ways, Calthorpe Road as it wasn't busy.
Haven't seen things that bad in a long time.
I actually saw a 23 going the wrong way, it swung round to the Moor St stops and carried on towards New St outbound.
Quote from: Stu on October 16, 2023, 06:54:23 PMDoes anybody know what actually happened?
I understand there was chaos this morning due to a crane:
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/traffic-chaos-birmingham-city-centre-27918817
According to NX West Midlands on Twitter, Priory Queensway is scheduled to be closed from Weds 18th from 1:30am to 4:30am "in preparation for crane lift"
There were signs saying Priory Queensway will be closed from 14th-17th but it didn't say what for.
Quote from: MasterPlan on October 16, 2023, 06:55:49 PMI actually saw a 23 going the wrong way, it swung round to the Moor St stops and carried on towards New St outbound.
Yes you're right, I think it was 6864 I caught, and bustimes shows that as doing a u-turn on Moor Street and heading out of town via Bath Row to Five Ways, which explains why there weren't many people on it.
Quote from: MasterPlan on October 16, 2023, 06:55:49 PMI actually saw a 23 going the wrong way, it swung round to the Moor St stops and carried on towards New St outbound.
There were signs saying Priory Queensway will be closed from 14th-17th but it didn't say what for.
It was probably instructed to, to avoid the chaos and actually give the other end of the route some service
Quote from: Tony on October 16, 2023, 07:26:56 PMIt was probably instructed to, to avoid the chaos and actually give the other end of the route some service
Yeah I don't doubt that just saying what I saw is all.
Quote from: Mike K on October 16, 2023, 07:21:18 PMYes you're right, I think it was 6864 I caught, and bustimes shows that as doing a u-turn on Moor Street and heading out of town via Bath Row to Five Ways, which explains why there weren't many people on it.
Quote from: Tony on October 16, 2023, 07:26:56 PMIt was probably instructed to, to avoid the chaos and actually give the other end of the route some service
Yes, I got lucky myself this evening, I got on a 3 (1929) this evening that was half-empty and had to wait around five minutes by Aldi as it was early. When I checked on BusTimes when I got back home, it had turned around at the Markets so had avoided the chaos.
After getting off the 3 on Trittiford Road to pop into the shop, while walking back up I saw 1912 coming down the road, which was around 40mins late at that point.
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tnxb-wa-1912#journeys/490790644
Quote from: MasterPlan on October 16, 2023, 06:55:49 PMThere were signs saying Priory Queensway will be closed from 14th-17th but it didn't say what for.
Big cranes and trucks in the middle of the road. To do with the new block they've been building there for sometime now.
6869 was delayed by almost 40 minutes on X1
Trindle road was gridlocked last night someone I know was stuck on an 87 for nearly /close to an hour from the top of Trindle road to castle gate island
Instead of very late, it's very early. E158 running 7 minutes early on the 17 on this particular trip. https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tcvw-e158#journeys/491240953
Quote from: Danthebusman on October 17, 2023, 05:07:37 PMInstead of very late, it's very early. E158 running 7 minutes early on the 17 on this particular trip. https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tcvw-e158#journeys/491240953
Did you actually see the bus 7 minutes early?
It's not tracking properly, it is only connecting approximately 33% of the time and the GPS is not accurate
Quote from: Tony on October 17, 2023, 05:22:05 PMDid you actually see the bus 7 minutes early?
It's not tracking properly, it is only connecting approximately 33% of the time and the GPS is not accurate
I saw it on Walsgrave Road just after the Harefield Rd stop heading inbound around 17:06 so it was running roughly 5 minutes early, I was onboard E095 heading outbound.
Quote from: Danthebusman on October 17, 2023, 05:43:46 PMI saw it on Walsgrave Road just after the Harefield Rd stop heading inbound around 17:06 so it was running roughly 5 minutes early, I was onboard E095 heading outbound.
E095 passed E158 at Harefield Road at 17:08, E158 was due there at 17:10, so not 5 minutes early
X12s heavily delayed this evening 6851 was 86 mins late with 6852 59 late. Expect it's due to the caravan show at the NEC
7:00 X21 to City didn't bother to turn up this morning. Imagine wanting to run to Merry Hill when you can't even run your Monday to Friday properly.
Seems to me unless you know where buses are likely to turn round early, you've got no chance!
The 80 buses are getting very late.
Quote from: Bartosz on October 24, 2023, 06:10:05 PMThe 80 buses are getting very late.
A lot of buses will be running very late, looks like the city centre was jammed up again this evening.
The 2 I got home this evening appeared to turn up on time, but was actually 40 minutes late, no wonder it was rammed full, luckily it was a double deck!
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tnxb-6912#journeys/494201574
Quote from: Stu on October 24, 2023, 07:00:52 PMA lot of buses will be running very late, looks like the city centre was jammed up again this evening.
The 2 I got home this evening appeared to turn up on time, but was actually 40 minutes late, no wonder it was rammed full, luckily it was a double deck!
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tnxb-6912#journeys/494201574
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/a38-tunnels-live-car-overturns-27975207
A car had an oopsie in one of the tunnels.
City centre completely gridlocked again. Harborne services from city were completely shafted, it looks like Hagley Road routes might have been too. Lots of buses stuck for ages around Paradise Circus and Great Charles Street. By around 17.30 there must have been in the region of 70+ people waiting at the Centenary Square stop.
The city centre is a joke lately. The whole infrastructure is such that one incident in one place causes devastation on most key routes out of the city. I don't know why they're even contemplating cross city routes.
EDIT: and what kind of an a***hole is driving fast enough to overturn in a collision in one of those tunnels.
Quote from: Mike K on October 24, 2023, 07:13:13 PMCity centre completely gridlocked again. Harborne services from city were completely shafted, it looks like Hagley Road routes might have been too. Lots of buses stuck for ages around Paradise Circus and Great Charles Street. By around 17.30 there must have been in the region of 70+ people waiting at the Centenary Square stop.
The city centre is a joke lately. The whole infrastructure is such that one incident in one place causes devastation on most key routes out of the city. I don't know why they're even contemplating cross city routes.
EDIT: and what kind of an a***hole is driving fast enough to overturn in a collision in one of those tunnels.
Exactly, cars do not 'mysteriously' flip over onto their roof, unless they are being driven badly at high speed.
Quote from: Stu on October 24, 2023, 07:25:19 PMExactly, cars do not 'mysteriously' flip over onto their roof, unless they are being driven badly at high speed.
Although it may not be the car that's on its roof that was being driven like an idiot, it could be a car that's hit it.
Quote from: Tony on October 24, 2023, 07:50:58 PMAlthough it may not be the car that's on its roof that was being driven like an idiot, it could be a car that's hit it.
That is true, but either way, one person's idiotic actions have caused misery and disruption for thousands of others.
Temporary lights in Ward End causing the 94/95 to lose time the last few days. Takes 10 minutes to get through on average.
18:45 AG73 running late and no show in Solihull,but veg web states it left at 18:38😡
Quote from: suavegarv on October 25, 2023, 07:08:46 PM18:45 AG73 running late and no show in Solihull,but veg web states it left at 18:38😡
I think you need to find an alternative route home, as you'll be waiting a while.
4493 is scheduled to operate the 18:45 journey from Solihull, but is currently showing as 76 minutes late. :shocked:
20:30 95 not turned up tonight and the 21:00 one looks like it's still In chelmsley!!!
Quote from: Jack D on October 25, 2023, 08:34:58 PM20:30 95 not turned up tonight and the 21:00 one looks like it's still In chelmsley!!!
20:45 94 hasn't turned up either 😂 what a joke
9 service now run by Wolverhampton drivers is running up to 15 minutes late this morning.
Quote from: PB50 on October 29, 2023, 11:22:15 AM9 service now run by Wolverhampton drivers is running up to 15 minutes late this morning.
Wonder what happened there then?
According to Bustimes, it started early on.
(Sister has now rushed out for the delayed 1310 to Wolves, to link up at Bloxwich with it!)
Good job, it wasnt interworking.
Not a good start.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid02NNEVksU3F9vb6g93RRaz5BnWUqY7HWU7FqKevrKFwMWPRpnEdgfjHrKaPPKXwejXl&id=100064803637927
Don't know if this was late on the day.
Quote from: suavegarv on October 29, 2023, 10:05:52 PMhttps://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid02NNEVksU3F9vb6g93RRaz5BnWUqY7HWU7FqKevrKFwMWPRpnEdgfjHrKaPPKXwejXl&id=100064803637927
Don't know if this was late on the day.
Its the Hams Hall X13 service. When I saw the 13:00 Hams Hall one a few weeks ago people were pushing and shoving each other to get on a 49XX on it. Some people just don't know how to queue properly or don't have any respect for other passengers it seems.
https://twitter.com/WGthink/status/1717232227954970638
Apparently an extra service has been added...
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/extra-bus-service-after-viral-27995935?fbclid=IwAR3SF3EDqI3fpqsQ9Advq0duZHurkmzzbSMkbuG51CxIv42SKA1vwMfaIWY
E104 running up to 7 minutes early at certain times and left Pool Meadow and Burns Road timing points 5 minutes early!
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tcvw-e104#journeys/497546627
2022 roughly 12 to 15 minutes late on Wolves Service 9, according to Bustimes.
2nd Sunday on the trot, Wolves are having 'issues' it appears.
(And I was checking for sister, before anyone says!)
Quote from: Westy on November 05, 2023, 01:30:50 PM2022 roughly 12 to 15 minutes late on Wolves Service 9, according to Bustimes.
2nd Sunday on the trot, Wolves are having 'issues' it appears.
(And I was checking for sister, before anyone says!)
They need to do what Walsall garage was doing which was interacting it with another service which meant they had more time to get from A to B. Wolverhampton are trying to do whole journey one way in an hour and it's impossible as Walsall found out.
Quote from: PB50 on November 05, 2023, 03:03:01 PMThey need to do what Walsall garage was doing which was interacting it with another service which meant they had more time to get from A to B. Wolverhampton are trying to do whole journey one way in an hour and it's impossible as Walsall found out.
But surely that cocks up the other service(s) involved as well?
(I'm no expert obviously!)
What other service would you interwork it with?
Quote from: Westy on November 05, 2023, 10:39:21 PMBut surely that cocks up the other service(s) involved as well?
(I'm no expert obviously!)
What other service would you interwork it with?
On a Sunday only Walsall garage tried to do what Wolverhampton garage are doing by trying to do the whole journey in an hour and it doesn't work. Earlier on this year on a Sunday only, the 35 runs then comes back and goes out as a 77 then on a 6 then on a 41 then on a 9. That's most of the daytime took up. But they seem to have time when they come in to Walsall before having to go out on the next route so it must work ok. I'm thinking maybe Wolverhampton garage need to do something similar. It's only Sundays that they have a problem.
Stratford Road services running upto 30 minutes late because of 2231 which has broken down at the Main Street stop.
Trying to work out if 6859 is operating or not. Its showing as an X21 to City but no stops recorded until Uni Station.
Something has gone wrong as it has resulted in 6885 in the next journey being too full and missing out many stops with people at them.
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tnxb-6859#journeys/500702741
Travelled into Birmingham this evening, it took me close to a hour to get from the M6 to the Novotel Broad street by the A38, it seemed the whole city was grid locked, is it usually this bad, how on earth can you keep to a time table with this amount of congestion
Might be to do with the fire near Hockley
This tend's to happen when events are on at the NIA and symphony Hall.
4393 suffering a 28 minute delay on the 76.
17:55 997 from Walsall hasn't ran leaving passengers in the freezing cold waiting an extra 30 minutes. I wouldn't mind but the 997 isn't as frequent in Walsall as it is elsewhere!
18:25 looks to be a no show either, baring in mind 1845 arrived just a few minutes late, wonder what the excuse is...
1845 ran the 18:25 journey
Quote from: Tony on November 29, 2023, 07:01:33 PM1845 ran the 18:25 journey
I know very well it did, boarded it 12 minutes was parked up doing nothing for ages. Just got off it 17 minutes late!
Quote from: Jack on November 29, 2023, 07:27:04 PMI know very well it did, boarded it 12 minutes was parked up doing nothing for ages. Just got off it 17 minutes late!
Well yes, sometimes when services are running very late the drivers have to have their legal 30 minute break before driving another bus
Two 39's within 10 minutes of each other 855 I think and 1847 supposed to be every half an hour however As I got into Darlaston looks like the Traffic lights are causing queues plus I can't imagine the School run helped the 39.
Moor Street looks heavily congested again. X1 now turning round at the Markets.
Had to go into city earlier this afternoon, I can see exactly what the problem is: both the Bullring and Selfridges car parks were full and attendants were directing cars away towards Moor Street.
This is a consequence of Birmingham City Council closing and demolishing several nearby car parks. Same volume of motorists want to drive into the city centre but now there are far fewer places to park, so these motorists now drive aimlessly around the convoluted network of roads, clogging them up which causes the buses to get held up and delayed.
I dont get why people still drive into town its all a complicated 1 way system thats always congested
Quote from: spacecowboy150 on December 02, 2023, 09:37:24 PMI dont get why people still drive into town its all a complicated 1 way system thats always congested
The kind that has to when a sibling waits for a bus and it decides to skip the estate, like it did this evening.
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tnxb-4942#journeys/510646091
When you got within the ring road it was just congestion on the main routes. I drove out towards Smethwick then came around the ring road to get back out.
Quote from: Stu on December 02, 2023, 04:38:23 PMMoor Street looks heavily congested again. X1 now turning round at the Markets.
Had to go into city earlier this afternoon, I can see exactly what the problem is: both the Bullring and Selfridges car parks were full and attendants were directing cars away towards Moor Street.
This is a consequence of Birmingham City Council closing and demolishing several nearby car parks. Same volume of motorists want to drive into the city centre but now there are far fewer places to park, so these motorists now drive aimlessly around the convoluted network of roads, clogging them up which causes the buses to get held up and delayed.
Those responsible for town planning and road layout have a lot to answer for too. Birmingham city centre is an absolute shambles, I've never seen another city like it. England's second city and congestion to one car park, a broken down bus on one street or an accident in the Queensway tunnel and the entire city and all arterial routes into and our of the city grind to a complete halt. It's a joke.
Quote from: ellspurs on December 02, 2023, 10:17:06 PMThe kind that has to when a sibling waits for a bus and it decides to skip the estate, like it did this evening.
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tnxb-4942#journeys/510646091
When you got within the ring road it was just congestion on the main routes. I drove out towards Smethwick then came around the ring road to get back out.
More spotting from the sofa it seems.
What that doesn't tell you is whether the bus was actually in service.
I know sometimes when the service is late they run dead out of Chelmsley along the Chester Road and take up service at Ward End. Or even along the A47 to get back to the City.
It was probably adjusted to get it back on time.
My brother was stood at a stop on Auckland Drive. We checked bustimes before he left, saw the 95 come into Chelmsley Wood, change to a 94, then head back out along its route. He headed to the bus stop, and I went along with what I was doing, leaving the map open in a tab.
Five minutes later, I refreshed the page to double check that the bus had passed, and saw it at Morrisons. Checking the map it tracked straight up the Chester Road, bypassing Smith's Wood.
I phoned him, confirmed the bus hadn't come, then went and picked him up in my car and started to drive to the city centre. We passed the bus along the way, it was carrying passengers.
Plus, I thought they had removed tracking of dead buses? If the driver has put "NIS" on, then it wouldn't be shown tracking on the 94 route until it changed, right? If the driver put the 94 on at Chelmsley, then drove straight up the Chester Road to catch up time, then it's just skipping the route like the Claribels used to love to do.
Quote from: ellspurs on December 03, 2023, 12:19:49 AMMy brother was stood at a stop on Auckland Drive. We checked bustimes before he left, saw the 95 come into Chelmsley Wood, change to a 94, then head back out along its route. He headed to the bus stop, and I went along with what I was doing, leaving the map open in a tab.
Five minutes later, I refreshed the page to double check that the bus had passed, and saw it at Morrisons. Checking the map it tracked straight up the Chester Road, bypassing Smith's Wood.
I phoned him, confirmed the bus hadn't come, then went and picked him up in my car and started to drive to the city centre. We passed the bus along the way, it was carrying passengers.
Plus, I thought they had removed tracking of dead buses? If the driver has put "NIS" on, then it wouldn't be shown tracking on the 94 route until it changed, right? If the driver put the 94 on at Chelmsley, then drove straight up the Chester Road to catch up time, then it's just skipping the route like the Claribels used to love to do.
Unscheduled dead runs tend to track as the service number.
Your claim they are intentionally skipping the route is complete rubbish, i'm sure. The driver will probably have been instructed to take up service further along route
Do you really think these were in service to?
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tnxb-4897?date=2023-12-01#journeys/510263043
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tnxb-4906?date=2023-11-30#journeys/509818741
Regardless of whether it was the driver's decision or the inspector's decision, there was no 94 on the Smith's Wood estate going to Birmingham for an hour on an early Saturday evening.
The tracking shows three buses in a row were either missing or started at/skipped to Morrisons.
Even with respect to what was going on in the city centre, that was poor planning.
I know what the city centre traffic was like, as I had to sit through it to drop my brother off because the bus didn't show up. Seeing the bus in service as I drove him there gives the perception that the area was intentionally skipped. Saying I'm sitting on the sofa drooling over bustimes is absurd.
Quote from: ellspurs on December 03, 2023, 01:20:57 AMRegardless of whether it was the driver's decision or the inspector's decision, there was no 94 on the Smith's Wood estate going to Birmingham for an hour on an early Saturday evening.
The tracking shows three buses in a row were either missing or started at/skipped to Morrisons.
Even with respect to what was going on in the city centre, that was poor planning.
I know what the city centre traffic was like, as I had to sit through it to drop my brother off because the bus didn't show up. Seeing the bus in service as I drove him there gives the perception that the area was intentionally skipped. Saying I'm sitting on the sofa drooling over bustimes is absurd.
Thats what happens when buses are running over half an hour late due to traffic conditions I guess. Also driver hours probably affects these sorts of decisions as the relief point is in the City to.
And you still say the area was intentionally skipped, seems like you just want to blame the driver.
Quote from: spacecowboy150 on December 02, 2023, 09:37:24 PMI dont get why people still drive into town its all a complicated 1 way system thats always congested
It wouldn't be an issue if they never pulled down a load of car parks in one small area. That and the bus gate on Moor Street Queensway needs removing, making traffic turn back and creates a gridlock. That and hardly anyone obeys it! May as well be removed.
I'm sick of having to finish work on a Saturday and get snarled up in the traffic in the City (particularly Digbeth), nothing gets diverted or moved and it's frustrating when you used to be move along there easily.
It's only £4 to get to,/from Birmingham on the bus when you add price of petrol & parking charges it cheaper to get the bus if your on your own
Quote from: Solo1 on December 04, 2023, 08:14:28 AMIt's only £4 to get to,/from Birmingham on the bus when you add price of petrol & parking charges it cheaper to get the bus if your on your own
If it turns up that is.
looks like theres been an incident at kings heath high street, tonnes of buses locked up there for a good hour it seems. including literally every bus currently on the 50.
Quote from: Jack on December 04, 2023, 02:50:09 PMIf it turns up that is.
more people on bus means less people in car so less congestion so bus will be more likely to come so more people ride it because more reliable and company gets more money and increase service. But first people need to not go in car
Quote from: EK40 on December 04, 2023, 07:49:20 PMlooks like theres been an incident at kings heath high street, tonnes of buses locked up there for a good hour it seems. including literally every bus currently on the 50.
Some kind of collision, cleared now.
https://x.com/nxwestmidlands/status/1731770211085271396
Was Stagecoach's 36430 involved? Appears to have been 'stuck' in KIngs Heath since 18:44, and currently shows on BusTimes as "129 minutes late".
Quote from: Stu on December 04, 2023, 08:34:33 PMSome kind of collision, cleared now.
https://x.com/nxwestmidlands/status/1731770211085271396
Was Stagecoach's 36430 involved? Appears to have been 'stuck' in KIngs Heath since 18:44, and currently shows on BusTimes as "129 minutes late".
Yes, the Stagecoach vehicle has collided with 3 other vehicles
1852 according to ticket machine is on the 4M 40 mins late
1855 running 62 mins late on the 4M
Quote from: Wba_lad on December 05, 2023, 05:28:07 PM1855 running 62 mins late on the 4M
Is this off vegweb or did you actually see this?
Quote from: Jack on December 05, 2023, 06:54:57 PMIs this off vegweb or did you actually see this?
FYI I was on it!
Quote from: spacecowboy150 on December 04, 2023, 08:04:40 PMmore people on bus means less people in car so less congestion so bus will be more likely to come so more people ride it because more reliable and company gets more money and increase service. But first people need to not go in car
That's not all the reasons that buses are late.
Quote from: Jack on December 05, 2023, 07:39:06 PMThat's not all the reasons that buses are late.
yeah cause they also break down and stuff but more money=better maintenence because they can afford it more (in theory)
16 and 74 all over the place this morning.
23 and 24 running severely late this morning due, yet again, to roadworks on the one way stretch of Harborne Road, with traffic down to just a single lane. The number of times that road is dug up is mind-boggling. When I caught 6832 on the 23 it was bang on time. By Centenary Square it was running 31 minutes late.
529 seems to be all over the place. Two days last week I waited over twenty five mins. Not sure if the problem is at the Walsall or Wolves end of the route
Quote from: Jay71 on December 06, 2023, 11:03:19 AM529 seems to be all over the place. Two days last week I waited over twenty five mins. Not sure if the problem is at the Walsall or Wolves end of the route
Incident on Wolverhampton Road West 529 was diverted Churchill Avenue and Bentley Lane and a collision on the A454 between the Keyway and J10 was in the Car this morning heading that way and it was a nightmare. The A454 was probably as gridlocked as I have seen it in years. Well that was Today's issue. They were I don't know if they still are doing roadworks on the Willenhall Road somewhere between Portobello and Wolves I read on the Express and Star
Quote from: MasterPlan on December 06, 2023, 08:29:30 AM16 and 74 all over the place this morning.
Looks like its down to roadworks on Constitution Hill. It's taken me near enough an hour to get from Hockley to Snow Hill on the 16A.
1847 running 20 mins late on the 4M
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on December 06, 2023, 11:56:37 AMIncident on Wolverhampton Road West 529 was diverted Churchill Avenue and Bentley Lane and a collision on the A454 between the Keyway and J10 was in the Car this morning heading that way and it was a nightmare. The A454 was probably as gridlocked as I have seen it in years. Well that was Today's issue. They were I don't know if they still are doing roadworks on the Willenhall Road somewhere between Portobello and Wolves I read on the Express and Star
Must have happened after 7am, as my journey was ok.
Quote from: Westy on December 06, 2023, 10:25:07 PMMust have happened after 7am, as my journey was ok.
I think it happened around 8 according to a Work Colleague not sure about the A454 Crash though that was Bilston direction. It was a nightmare at half eight when I was coming through
39's going to be late Roadworks on Willenhall Street in Darlaston temporary Traffic Lights just before they turn onto Stafford Road will be fun this afternoon during the School run. I think they were up after this morning's school run I certainly didn't see them walking to the 79. Yep certainly was fun took the parents 20/25 minutes or so to clear of Bilston Street usually takes them 10 or so. Also No Lollipop Man added to the delays as he actually has calmed the area down but today it was back to chaos. As it is on the Crossing so traffic is having to stop to let Parents cross which means it is taking longer to clear the flow up. Seriously who at Walsall Council thought this was a good idea.
5411, 4992, 4981 all together on the 79 to Wolverhampton plus 6786, 4989 and one other on 79 to West Bromwich all in Darlaston
2210 running 45 mins late on the 17.
Quote from: Wba_lad on December 09, 2023, 03:21:34 PM2210 running 45 mins late on the 17.
as is nearly every bus anywhere near Selfridges
Quote from: Tony on December 09, 2023, 03:42:51 PMas is nearly every bus anywhere near Selfridges
Yeah there is a protest going on again so that's not helping things. But it's Saturday evening running around digbeth is always a mess.
Quote from: Tony on December 09, 2023, 03:42:51 PMas is nearly every bus anywhere near Selfridges
Let me guess, both car parks are full again and turning vehicles away?
Quote from: Stu on December 09, 2023, 04:21:22 PMLet me guess, both car parks are full again and turning vehicles away?
Yeah correct, but people still stopping and arguing with staff trying to get into the car parks
4904 running 41 mins late on the 97
4747(80) 091223 Was due to leave Upper Dean St @ 2030. Arrived at 2045, changed destination screen to West Bromwich. At 2051 the driver changed his screen to NIS. I find this most strange
Quote from: Jay71 on December 09, 2023, 09:03:18 PM4747(80) 091223 Was due to leave Upper Dean St @ 2030. Arrived at 2045, changed destination screen to West Bromwich. At 2051 the driver changed his screen to NIS. I find this most strange
Most likely instructed by garage to run out of service to somewhere further along the route to pick time back up at a timing point or driver might have been running close to his driving hours so instructed to run to his relief point, I can only assume these are the possible cases from a drivers perspective
Quote from: dw1308 on December 09, 2023, 11:49:39 PMMost likely instructed by garage to run out of service to somewhere further along the route to pick time back up at a timing point or driver might have been running close to his driving hours so instructed to run to his relief point, I can only assume these are the possible cases from a drivers perspective
I assume that the problems were caused by the Holloway Head Island. The 2055 was twenty five mins late.
Quote from: Wba_lad on December 09, 2023, 05:10:20 PM4904 running 41 mins late on the 97
Every route that runs through Digbeth on a Saturday is always badly late, they don't all need to be mentioned it's nothing new at all.
Quote from: Jack on December 10, 2023, 07:01:42 PMEvery route that runs through Digbeth on a Saturday is always badly late, they don't all need to be mentioned it's nothing new at all.
Okay, we stated this yesterday, Tony did put it to me yesterday,
So Tony told you yesterday and then after you post about a 97 being 42 mins
Quote from: cris 99 on December 10, 2023, 09:47:25 PMSo Tony told you yesterday and then after you post about a 97 being 42 mins
Tony said so is every route running by selfridges I only put it because I seen how late it was.
1834 on the last 39 to Walsall didn't run today was on time on the 34 then became late on the 39 to Stowlawn
7:00 X21 to City missing this morning. Maybe because it only does 2 trips its like oh well.
1937 running 24 mins late on the 40 service.
1806 running 28 mins late on the 4 service.
1854 running 49 mins late on the 4M service.
1842 running 26 mins late on the 4 service.
Quote from: Wba_lad on December 22, 2023, 02:19:04 PM1937 running 24 mins late on the 40 service.
1806 running 28 mins late on the 4 service.
1854 running 49 mins late on the 4M service.
1842 running 26 mins late on the 4 service.
Dont think there's anything not running late today tbf
Been on two 11c's today, both just over 60 mins late
The 7 im on right now is 40 mins late,in a bunch of 3 saw another bunch of 3 going the other direction too
Tonnes of short workings seen while in the city
Looking at a bunch of buses on bustimes on random services right now, nearly everything i check is 30 mins late or around it
Everything's running badly late it doesn't need noting because it's usual this time of year every year!
Two 5s heading for Solihull following each other on the Stratford Road earlier.
Quote from: Jack on December 22, 2023, 05:55:39 PMEverything's running badly late it doesn't need noting because it's usual this time of year every year!
On the contrary, the 3 I caught home was bang on time. :cool:
Quote from: Jack on December 22, 2023, 05:55:39 PMEverything's running badly late it doesn't need noting because it's usual this time of year every year!
But the name of the Thread is Very Late Running Services just because it is usual at this time of year not all services should be late so people can still report on it. Regardless of the time of year Buses running in 3's is still noteworthy when they are a frequent service or not so frequent as some of these are
2172 on the 17 currently 92 mins late with 2229 behind at 53 mins late
830 on the PN9 is leaving timing points 3 minutes early
E145 running 146 mins late on the X1
No it isn't, stop posting rubbish
Quote from: Tony on January 04, 2024, 03:19:06 PMNo it isn't, stop posting rubbish
It's running late I'm on it now, I would know, on bus times it says 146 mins late. When I can see the ticket machine I'll correct myself
I think there is a tracking issue with that as it left Coventry on time at 0849 and got into Birmingham at 1004 on time then mysteriously left as an 0825 back to Coventry making it's very late
Quote from: cris 99 on January 04, 2024, 03:35:18 PMI think there is a tracking issue with that as it left Coventry on time at 0849 and got into Birmingham at 1004 on time then mysteriously left as an 0825 back to Coventry making it's very late
Correct, 146 minutes is basically a round trip, so just incorrect data
Quote from: Wba_lad on January 04, 2024, 03:25:25 PMIt's running late I'm on it now, I would know, on bus times it says 146 mins late. When I can see the ticket machine I'll correct myself
Don't believe everything you see & read on Bustimes & Facebook!
Quote from: Wba_lad on January 04, 2024, 03:25:25 PMIt's running late I'm on it now, I would know, on bus times it says 146 mins late. When I can see the ticket machine I'll correct myself
there is a chance that the ticket machine thinks its on a previous trip
Don't know about late running, but an hour ago I was on 6767, & the driver's machine was showing about 60 to 80 mins early!
The display was showing an arrival of 806 somewhere on the 529 route.
Bit of 'finger trouble' again by a driver, as I mentioned one last week on the Wolves thread?
Quote from: Westy on January 09, 2024, 08:08:52 AMDon't know about late running, but an hour ago I was on 6767, & the driver's machine was showing about 60 to 80 mins early!
The display was showing an arrival of 806 somewhere on the 529 route.
Bit of 'finger trouble' again by a driver, as I mentioned one last week on the Wolves thread?
Nothing to do with the driver, he doesn't set the journey
Quote from: Tony on January 09, 2024, 08:37:50 AMNothing to do with the driver, he doesn't set the journey
So how does the 'problem' happen then?
As per normal the 97 route is very delayed leaving city due to blues playing at home. The day the 97 gets a football day is the day the route become just slightly more reliable.
It's take 20 minutes to do 0.2 miles...
Not sure how to add images on phone, bus would of added a screenshot to show how many 97s are in a short area.
Quote from: GoldenSquid on January 13, 2024, 05:50:05 PMAs per normal the 97 route is very delayed leaving city due to blues playing at home. The day the 97 gets a football day is the day the route become just slightly more reliable.
It's take 20 minutes to do 0.2 miles...
Not sure how to add images on phone, bus would of added a screenshot to show how many 97s are in a short area.
I bet Birmingham was a right mess this afternoon with West Bromwich Albion and Birmingham city both being at home, a lot of fans from both teams head into city, also would of been a bit of conflict, bet Birmingham city centre was chaos.
Quote from: Wba_lad on January 13, 2024, 11:23:08 PMI bet Birmingham was a right mess this afternoon with West Bromwich Albion and Birmingham city both being at home, a lot of fans from both teams head into city, also would of been a bit of conflict, bet Birmingham city centre was chaos.
That happens every time you do realise Albion and Blues are at home on the same day as each other as they can't play when Wolves and Villa are at home. Next Week Wolves are at home Albion and Blues are away. Obviously if it was the FA Cup it would be split. But this happens all the time. Most of the fans aren't driving into the city centre there getting the trains, bus or Tram or Walking to the Blues Ground.
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on January 14, 2024, 02:23:40 PMThat happens every time you do realise Albion and Blues are at home on the same day as each other as they can't play when Wolves and Villa are at home. Next Week Wolves are at home Albion and Blues are away. Obviously if it was the FA Cup it would be split. But this happens all the time. Most of the fans aren't driving into the city centre there getting the trains, bus or Tram or Walking to the Blues Ground.
Yes I know, that's why i said I bet it was chaos I know they both playing.
Quote from: Wba_lad on January 14, 2024, 04:04:09 PMYes I know, that's why i said I bet it was chaos I know they both playing.
It really makes no difference that they both play on the same day. They have done so for the last 50 years.
West Bromwich playing at home causes traffic problems around Junction 1 of the M5 and the trams to be overful. Birmingham playing at home causes traffic problems around Small Heath and inner ring road. There's no real connection betwenn the two and the same problems occur if one plays or both
Quote from: Tony on January 14, 2024, 04:25:34 PMIt really makes no difference that they both play on the same day. They have done so for the last 50 years.
West Bromwich playing at home causes traffic problems around Junction 1 of the M5 and the trams to be overful. Birmingham playing at home causes traffic problems around Small Heath and inner ring road. There's no real connection betwenn the two and the same problems occur if one plays or both
Yeah exactly has happened for many years. It really isn't much of an issue by now.
6:48 997 from Pheasey has decided to not appear this morning!
Quote from: Jack on January 23, 2024, 07:17:58 AM6:48 997 from Pheasey has decided to not appear this morning!
That's not late running service it's a non running service
This morning the 0936 service 11 from Princes End to Walsall was a no show
Quote from: Wba_lad on January 23, 2024, 09:59:49 AMThat's not late running service it's a non running service
It equates to the same thing, the next one was overcrowded because of that one being missing!
Quote from: Jay71 on January 23, 2024, 10:07:31 AMThis morning the 0936 service 11 from Princes End to Walsall was a no show
It wasn't a no show, it was 2110, It was very late due to getting stuck going into Dudley
Quote from: Tony on January 23, 2024, 04:01:59 PMIt wasn't a no show, it was 2110, It was very late due to getting stuck going into Dudley
Thanks
I guess it's not viable or there's not enough vehicles/drivers to split the 11 / 11a maybe at Wednesbury to alleviate these delays, as that service's reliability doesnt seem to have improved since I used it regulary several years ago?
Quote from: Westy on January 23, 2024, 07:46:23 PMI guess it's not viable or there's not enough vehicles/drivers to split the 11 / 11a maybe at Wednesbury to alleviate these delays, as that service's reliability doesnt seem to have improved since I used it regulary several years ago?
So make people who have been delayed on one half even later by making them wait for a second bus, doesn't sound like a way of increasing passenger numbers.
1838 on the 14:39 to Stowlawn Departed at 15:00 21 minutes late 858 looks like it will be late on the 15:10 39 to.
Edit the 15:10 is on time I must have missed that one going to Walsall
1857 running 25 mins late on the 4 service.
4518 running 25ish minutes late on the 5. Probably due to traffic coming out of West Brom.
Quote from: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on January 31, 2024, 05:15:00 PM4518 running 25ish minutes late on the 5. Probably due to traffic coming out of West Brom.
Judging by the time you posted it, there's about 5/6 hotspots that route gets caught in at rush hour, nothing new or unusual.
Quote from: Jack on January 31, 2024, 05:17:57 PMJudging by the time you posted it, there's about 5/6 hotspots that route gets caught in at rush hour, nothing new or unusual.
Still nonetheless late. No need for your judgment aswell.
Quote from: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on January 31, 2024, 05:20:45 PMStill nonetheless late. No need for your judgment aswell.
No need for your attitude either, I politely made a point.
Quote from: Jack on January 31, 2024, 05:21:59 PMNo need for your attitude either, I politely made a point.
I appreciate you made a point, but it was unnecessary.
Passed two 5s following each other heading towards Birmingham on Yardley Wood Road earlier while on my way home.
Quote from: Jack on January 31, 2024, 05:17:57 PMJudging by the time you posted it, there's about 5/6 hotspots that route gets caught in at rush hour, nothing new or unusual.
I'm sorry but you clearly need explaining too, weather it's for 1 hotspot or 40 hotspots, the service was still running 25 mins late which is what this thread is for, you always have somthing to say and annoy me, you do it to me a lot, bus was 25 mins late and was logged in this thread so you don't need to comment.
Quote from: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on January 31, 2024, 05:20:45 PMStill nonetheless late. No need for your judgment aswell.
I completely agree with you, he is always judging somone, this is what this thread is for, he is always doing it to me too and it is very annoying, he thinks he knows everything.
Quote from: Jack on January 31, 2024, 05:21:59 PMNo need for your attitude either, I politely made a point.
He never gave you attitude, there is no need for your stupid judgement comments.
Quote from: Wba_lad on January 31, 2024, 08:59:56 PMI'm sorry but you clearly need explaining too, weather it's for 1 hotspot or 40 hotspots, the service was still running 25 mins late which is what this thread is for, you always have somthing to say and annoy me, you do it to me a lot, bus was 25 mins late and was logged in this thread so you don't need to comment. I completely agree with you, he is always judging somone, this is what this thread is for, he is always doing it to me too and it is very annoying, he thinks he knows everything. He never gave you attitude, there is no need for your stupid judgement comments.
You are not admin and I will post if i chose to. Only person moaning is you no one else.
Quote from: Jack on January 31, 2024, 11:35:03 PMYou are not admin and I will post if i chose to. Only person moaning is you no one else.
I'm sorry please find where I said I'm admin?????
@Wba_lad - Can you stop filling the threads with junk & keep the bickering off the forum. End of subject.
Quote from: Jack on January 31, 2024, 11:35:03 PMYou are not admin and I will post if i chose to. Only person moaning is you no one else.
And I will politely remind you that you are not admin or a moderator either.
If you find certain forum posts tedious, then just ignore or skip over them, and leave others to it.
4772 running 55 late on the 80
Temporary 4-way lights at the junction of Harborne High Street and Harborne Park Road means every Harborne route and the 11 are royally screwed. Currently on 6863 and it's 47 minutes late (was 6 mins late when I got on).
1803 is about an hour late on the 39 only just coming back from Stowlawn. Maybe it has faulty tracking but I did think there was a 39 to Stowlawn missing earlier as 1856 and 855 went past within Half an hour to Walsall but nothing seemed to come past towards Stowlawn
If you look on Bustimes you can see it's obviously a tracking error
5504, 6843 and 6885 in convoy through Weoley Castle, outbound.
Quote from: Tony on February 09, 2024, 04:11:20 PMIf you look on Bustimes you can see it's obviously a tracking error
My apologies 2133 also playing up then as that was apparently on the 39 but it tracked at Darlaston and Bilston apparently
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 09, 2024, 07:10:54 PMMy apologies 2133 also playing up then as that was apparently on the 39 but it tracked at Darlaston and Bilston apparently
The 39 goes to Darlaston & Bilston!
Quote from: Tony on February 09, 2024, 07:32:22 PMThe 39 goes to Darlaston & Bilston!
I know but not the whole route
5 way traffic lights at colly gate for the demolition of old shops 9 and 002 affected
730 running 30+ mins late on 4H
Temporary lights by Hampstead train. Just taken ninety mins to get from Upper Dean St to Green Lane
Not sure what happened to 6892 but it's been unable to do the 7:02 X21 to City.
Both Wolves 9s appear to be running 20 to 30 minutes late, which is annoying my sister, as she's got to be at work in Wednesfield for 3pm!
1836 running 20 mins late on the 4M to Walsall.
The 19:55 4H to Hayley green has not operated. Looks like the driver has forgot he's meant to change from a 14 to a 4H! And is now running 20 minutes early on the 14 back too dudley.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 10, 2024, 08:08:05 PMThe 19:55 4H to Hayley green has not operated. Looks like the driver has forgot he's meant to change from a 14 to a 4H! And is now running 20 minutes early on the 14 back too dudley.
He's come back to Halesowen after getting as far as blackheath and still hasn't operated the 4H and is now running 15 minutes late on the 14.
5425 which I'm on and a Red and White Trident together on the 79 to Wolverhampton. The Trident overtook us on Dangerfield Lane 5425 is rammed. I don't which one is late as 5425 has a new driver as another one is sat on the front seat opposite the cab
Sparkhill was a congested mess this evening!
Left work at 5:30pm, saw on BusTimes that there would be a long wait for the next 2 or 3, so thought it would be a good idea to get the 5 instead. It (almost ironically) was pretty much on-time, just a couple of minutes late, at 5:42pm.
Ended up getting off at Wilton Road stop because Stratford Road was jammed solid and it looked like we were going nowhere fast.
Walked along Fulham Road to get across to Stoney Lane to take my chances on a 2 or 3. Stoney Lane was no better, another congested mess. Was getting aggravated by idiots blaring their horns (like that's going to suddenly make the traffic start moving), so walked up to the Esme Road stop, as I could see it would still be a while before any bus arrived.
Ended up on Z4007 on the 2, which was showing as 15 minutes late when I alighted at Billesley Common, with another two buses on the 3 following closely behind.
Quote from: Stu on March 15, 2024, 07:04:37 PMSparkhill was a congested mess this evening!
Left work at 5:30pm, saw on BusTimes that there would be a long wait for the next 2 or 3, so thought it would be a good idea to get the 5 instead. It (almost ironically) was pretty much on-time, just a couple of minutes late, at 5:42pm.
Ended up getting off at Wilton Road stop because Stratford Road was jammed solid and it looked like we were going nowhere fast.
Walked along Fulham Road to get across to Stoney Lane to take my chances on a 2 or 3. Stoney Lane was no better, another congested mess. Was getting aggravated by idiots blaring their horns (like that's going to suddenly make the traffic start moving), so walked up to the Esme Road stop, as I could see it would still be a while before any bus arrived.
Ended up on Z4007 on the 2, which was showing as 15 minutes late when I alighted at Billesley Common, with another two buses on the 3 following closely behind.
Probably because it's Ramadan. The fast opens around 18:15. Usually hectic just before then and at the click of the finger it all becomes a ghost town for an hour, and then back to normal.
Coupled with Walford Road being closed coming from Stratford Road, that was probably the reason.
4896, 6832 and 6836 running together through Weoley Castle towards Bartley Green.
I expect the 74 and buses around Great Barr and the 529 to be late due to J1 of the M5 being closed or it was closed the diversion routes were down the A41 along the A4034 into Great Barr or down the A41 through Moxley to J10.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/black-country/serious-collision-walsalls-a4148-blue-28975745
I expect delays around Walsall due to this, 529 as it is up to J10 in terms of Traffic, possibly the 36 as it appeared to be queuing up by the Manor maybe the 39 to, 41, 69, 70, 70A as buses were diverted and maybe the Bloxwhich services as if it was queuing in both directions then Bloxwhich Road would be affected possibly also delays on all Walsall Routes in general apart from the City routes
4941 - 65 minutes late on the X22. At least it still ran.
Seems like the 822 was missing today? I usually see it go past but no sight of it today (or on bustimes).
Quote from: mesub on April 11, 2024, 04:34:06 PM4941 - 65 minutes late on the X22. At least it still ran.
Seems like the 822 was missing today? I usually see it go past but no sight of it today (or on bustimes).
Yep, temporary traffic lights on Edgbaston Park Road once again causing X21/X22 to lose time.
Quote from: mesub on April 11, 2024, 04:34:06 PMSeems like the 822 was missing today? I usually see it go past but no sight of it today (or on bustimes).
It tracked up to Five Ways as the 14:53 14 to Chelmsley Wood.
Quote from: 2206 on April 11, 2024, 06:57:41 PMIt tracked up to Five Ways as the 14:53 14 to Chelmsley Wood.
Ah yes it did, but looking at the tracking, it seems like it failed to use the school turning circle, giving the impression that it didn't turn up.
First X51 from Cannock appears to be running approx 12 mins late, with a Diamond service also running 6 mins late on the Bloxwich to Walsall section.
(A 2nd Diamond is running on time though! Doubt I'll get that 326 home tonight, unless thats running late!)
2069 failed to operate the 1509 9 to Walsall, according to my sister waiting in Wednesfield, so she's had to catch a 59 to Peacock Avenue, & walk back to Bloxwich from there.
(Looking at Bustimes, it's gone out of service back to Walsall, via Willenhall, presumbly to pick up its next journey from Walsall.)
Quote from: Westy on April 21, 2024, 03:57:00 PM2069 failed to operate the 1509 9 to Walsall, according to my sister waiting in Wednesfield, so she's had to catch a 59 to Peacock Avenue, & walk back to Bloxwich from there.
(Looking at Bustimes, it's gone out of service back to Walsall, via Willenhall, presumbly to pick up its next journey from Walsall.)
Not good though when it only runs hourly.
Coventry Road services,mainly into town will no doubt be delayed because of a police incident by Clay Lane/Coventry Road,Yardley. Traffic backing up to the Wheatsheaf Sheldon.
810 running over half a hour late on the 89.
821 running nearly 20 mins late on the 40.
14:30 7 to Wollaston on 4762 running late about 30 minutes late
Problems on the 529. A lot these buses seem to be running two or three at a time
Quote from: Jay71 on May 08, 2024, 03:13:17 PMProblems on the 529. A lot these buses seem to be running two or three at a time
Heard there was an accident on the M6 earlier might have had a knock off affect on J10
1886 and 1879 together on the WA saw two 34's together something is causing them to be late.
853 is running 16 minutes late on the 34 and 1884 is late on the 39 as it was parked up in Walsall for a while after missing it's scheduled departure
2093 is running super late on the 16:00 to Wollaston delayed about 20 minutes