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Started by Rob H, July 22, 2013, 10:30:30 PM

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Steve3229vp

Quote from: BBS on November 05, 2023, 11:44:35 PMWith electrics coming soon, I see the 4/4A becoming deckers anyways. The E200mmcs can be well used for routes unable to accommodate deckers
Which routes are these then ?
The fleet already has far too many single deckers already. Until the Scanias are gone the single decker problem will not go away.

GoldenSquid


In AG, the mmcs could move fully onto the 17 and have the 73 maybe become e200mmc has a decent load but could still handle singles or even move to over depots to replace older singles.
Local Routes: 14/71/72/94/95/96/97/X12/X13

Steve3229vp

Quote from: GoldenSquid on November 06, 2023, 03:04:55 PMIn AG, the mmcs could move fully onto the 17 and have the 73 maybe become e200mmc has a decent load but could still handle singles or even move to over depots to replace older singles.
We need double deckers to replace single deckers that keep appearing on routes 2, 3, 7, 33, 65, 67, 76 and 907

dw1308

Quote from: GoldenSquid on November 06, 2023, 03:04:55 PMIn AG, the mmcs could move fully onto the 17 and have the 73 maybe become e200mmc has a decent load but could still handle singles or even move to over depots to replace older singles.
If you are referring to E400MMCs on the 17 then it would require a complete reroute of the 17 at tile Cross as both bridges are below 14 feet

Steve3229vp

Quote from: dw1308 on November 06, 2023, 04:39:46 PMIf you are referring to E400MMCs on the 17 then it would require a complete reroute of the 17 at tile Cross as both bridges are below 14 feet
Where has he mentioned E400MMC's ?, it's obvious he's referring to E200MMC's 

Stu

Quote from: GoldenSquid on November 06, 2023, 03:04:55 PMIn AG, the mmcs could move fully onto the 17 and have the 73 maybe become e200mmc has a decent load but could still handle singles or even move to over depots to replace older singles.

Quote from: Steve3229vp on November 06, 2023, 03:09:41 PMWe need double deckers to replace single deckers that keep appearing on routes 2, 3, 7, 33, 65, 67, 76 and 907

And that is all part of the plan. There are 300 double decks on the way in the next couple of years, which will see off all the OmniLinks (147 at my latest count)

But some garages are still going to need single decks for routes that can't use doubles. So I would expect the newer Eclipse 2s and E200MMCs to end up more spread about.
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BBS

QuoteBut some garages are still going to need single decks for routes that can't use doubles. So I would expect the newer Eclipse 2s and E200MMCs to end up more spread about.
That's what i said, e200mmcs can be used and replace scania's. This basically leads to 4 becoming Deckers 
Local Bus Routes: 4, 4A, A15, A16, 41,1,11A,11C, A9, A12

Jack

Quote from: BBS on November 06, 2023, 09:44:12 PMThat's what i said, e200mmcs can be used and replace scania's. This basically leads to 4 becoming Deckers
How can they? I can't see the MMC's being able to take on some of PB's Omnilinks services with the tight turns.

I expect more B7's from Coventry to help with this. 

2206

#3638
Quote from: Jack on November 06, 2023, 09:55:27 PMHow can they? I can't see the MMC's being able to take on some of PB's Omnilinks services with the tight turns.

I expect more B7's from Coventry to help with this.
They were new for the 71. So thats one PB service they can run on at least.
Can they do the 28 and 66 as well?
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

Jack

Quote from: 2206 on November 06, 2023, 10:14:52 PMThey were new for the 71. So thats one PB service they can run on at least.
Can they do the 28 and 66 as well?
Have you seen some of the turns on the 28, 66 and 96?

I remember WB banning them from the 46 because they couldn't make the turn at Scott Arms. 

E200MMC's can stay at AG for the time being.

EK40

Quote from: Jack on November 06, 2023, 10:59:15 PMHave you seen some of the turns on the 28, 66 and 96?

I remember WB banning them from the 46 because they couldn't make the turn at Scott Arms.

E200MMC's can stay at AG for the time being.
Definitely not the 96 that has some really tight turns notably going of chester road into buckingham road where the kerb has lots of blue paint from many past diamond buses 

BBS

QuoteThey were new for the 71. So thats one PB service they can run on at least.
Can they do the 28 and 66 as well?
You got the WB 12(A)/13(A) too
Local Bus Routes: 4, 4A, A15, A16, 41,1,11A,11C, A9, A12

markcf83

Quote from: ellspurs on November 05, 2023, 03:40:38 PMThe 37 was the first to get those low-floor N-reg buses (the ones that knelt but still had two steps to get in there with). Was that when they were made single-decker?

They were followed the next year by the truly low-floor P-reg buses, which the first lot I think were on the 529? The low-floor double deckers began in the R-reg batch with a load of S-reg ones coming after.
From memory Walsall had them first on the 311/3.
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Jack

Quote from: BBS on November 07, 2023, 03:24:38 PMYou got the WB 12(A)/13(A) too
They don't need more single deckers either on there, unless they increase the frequency, which probably won't happen.

The days when the 120 was every 10 minutes between Brum and Oldbury, singles used to cope fine then.

Sh4318

Quote from: Jack on November 07, 2023, 03:56:44 PMThey don't need more single deckers either on there, unless they increase the frequency, which probably won't happen.

The days when the 120 was every 10 minutes between Brum and Oldbury, singles used to cope fine then.
Agreed, now the 12/A (previously 120) serve the Portland Road, with the 13/A (previously 127/128), they could do with less singles, the odd single here and there is fine during the day, but off peak, it's not uncommon to see standing passengers on single deck services
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Local Routes: 21, 89, 48/A, 12/A, 54/A
Semi-local routes: 80, 87

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