NXC say they are currently finalising service changes (diversions) due to the long term roadworks for the Friargate project around Coventry Ring Road J6 and Warwick Road. Expect this could be occuring as soon as 9th March as Vosa is showing a short notice route change for Johnsons bus services 539 and 580 from that date.
Buses (and taxis) will soon be able to leave Cov Rail Station and access Junction 5 via a new gate currently under construction at the (dead) end of Park Road.
A couple of Coventry service revisions on VOSA today to commence 23rd March, the closure of most of Ring Road Junction 6 roundabout is due to start 22nd March for 53 weeks:
1 route and timetable
4 timetable
8/8A/9/9A timetable (does not say route change but expect it will)
10 timetable
18/18A/19 - route and timetable (only the 18A is expected to change route, and this one is incorrectly dated 3rd Mar)
Diamond X30 - route amended
If you've seen the additional X30 route amendment commencing 9th March - This is a new variant service X31, which effectively is certain X30 journeys re-numbered and re-routed via Dorchester Way, timetable is on NWM/TravelineWM websites.
Quote from: JPC on March 03, 2014, 08:44:07 PMDiamond X30 - route amended
If you've seen the additional X30 route amendment commencing 9th March - This is a new variant service X31, which effectively is certain X30 journeys re-numbered and re-routed via Dorchester Way, timetable is on NWM/TravelineWM websites.
That's interesting with the X30/X31, though NWM has the date of the amendment as 17th February.
There was quite a bit of slack in the X30, and I guess that if any of the runs were to be made more convoluted, it should be the 'half past the hour' ones.
But this is quite some diversion!
The map on http://tinyurl.com/oqfnvra looks extremely strange!
Quote from: Valandil on March 04, 2014, 07:41:47 AM
That's interesting with the X30/X31, though NWM has the date of the amendment as 17th February.
There was quite a bit of slack in the X30, and I guess that if any of the runs were to be made more convoluted, it should be the 'half past the hour' ones.
But this is quite some diversion!
The map on http://tinyurl.com/oqfnvra looks extremely strange!
Yeah, they have loaded the wrong bus stops to the X31 route, the two stops near Ernesford Grange school are meant to be the two near Pearl Hyde school.
Services 4 and 10 isn't expected to be affected by Friargate so I suspect the timetable change on those is due to conflict/clash at Pool Meadow stand T.
Kerbs installed for bus/taxi gate onto Quinton Road from Park Road. The central reservation has been removed from bottom of Quinton Road.
Quote from: JPC on February 17, 2014, 06:02:47 PM
NXC say they are currently finalising service changes (diversions) due to the long term roadworks for the Friargate project around Coventry Ring Road J6 and Warwick Road. Expect this could be occuring as soon as 9th March as Vosa is showing a short notice route change for Johnsons bus services 539 and 580 from that date.
Buses (and taxis) will soon be able to leave Cov Rail Station and access Junction 5 via a new gate currently under construction at the (dead) end of Park Road.
11 & 12 are having the route changed and will not serve Spencer Rd and Belvedere Rd.
Quote from: Beano2211 on March 06, 2014, 12:26:13 AM11 & 12 are having the route changed and will not serve Spencer Rd and Belvedere Rd.
Thanks for this: do you know if the 1 will be amended so that it *does* serve those roads?
Quote from: Beano2211 on March 06, 2014, 12:26:13 AM
Quote from: JPC on February 17, 2014, 06:02:47 PM
NXC say they are currently finalising service changes (diversions) due to the long term roadworks for the Friargate project around Coventry Ring Road J6 and Warwick Road. Expect this could be occuring as soon as 9th March as Vosa is showing a short notice route change for Johnsons bus services 539 and 580 from that date.
Buses (and taxis) will soon be able to leave Cov Rail Station and access Junction 5 via a new gate currently under construction at the (dead) end of Park Road.
11 & 12 are having the route changed and will not serve Spencer Rd and Belvedere Rd.
Will that mean a more major route change for the 11/12 - e.g. going via The Butts, Albany Road and then return to its current route by the Library? Or will it remain using Warwick Road and make use of Kenilworth Road instead of the two roads mentioned above? (I'm not sure what the access will be like during the works). It does mean a fairly substantial reduction in frequency along Belvedere Rd and Spencer Rd though.
Quote from: JoNi on March 05, 2014, 09:59:55 PM
Kerbs installed for bus/taxi gate onto Quinton Road from Park Road. The central reservation has been removed from bottom of Quinton Road.
Being replaced with a longer splitter island, ultimately preventing right turns out of or in to the new bus gate, either manoeuvre would be very hazardous for any vehicle.
Quote from: paulb1973 on March 06, 2014, 01:31:40 PM
Quote from: Beano2211 on March 06, 2014, 12:26:13 AM
Quote from: JPC on February 17, 2014, 06:02:47 PM
NXC say they are currently finalising service changes (diversions) due to the long term roadworks for the Friargate project around Coventry Ring Road J6 and Warwick Road. Expect this could be occuring as soon as 9th March as Vosa is showing a short notice route change for Johnsons bus services 539 and 580 from that date.
Buses (and taxis) will soon be able to leave Cov Rail Station and access Junction 5 via a new gate currently under construction at the (dead) end of Park Road.
11 & 12 are having the route changed and will not serve Spencer Rd and Belvedere Rd.
Will that mean a more major route change for the 11/12 - e.g. going via The Butts, Albany Road and then return to its current route by the Library? Or will it remain using Warwick Road and make use of Kenilworth Road instead of the two roads mentioned above? (I'm not sure what the access will be like during the works). It does mean a fairly substantial reduction in frequency along Belvedere Rd and Spencer Rd though.
It will use Warwick Rd, Kenilworth Rd and Earlsdon Ave South, don't know if the 1 will replace it though.
Quote from: Beano2211 on March 06, 2014, 11:16:12 PMIt will use Warwick Rd, Kenilworth Rd and Earlsdon Ave South, don't know if the 1 will replace it though.
I can't help wondering whether this would also make a stronger case for putting the bendis on that route ...
Quote from: Valandil on March 07, 2014, 08:14:50 AM
Quote from: Beano2211 on March 06, 2014, 11:16:12 PMIt will use Warwick Rd, Kenilworth Rd and Earlsdon Ave South, don't know if the 1 will replace it though.
I can't help wondering whether this would also make a stronger case for putting the bendis on that route ...
I guess the useful University of Warwick to Rail Station link remains then, handy for students. I presume the new bus-gate at the [new] junction of Park Rd and Quinton Rd only really benefits the 8/8A/9/9A group of services - from a NXC perspective.
If the 1 isn't diverted along Belvedere & Spencer Road's to cover the 11/12 then they will be un-served, so I would assume some cover will be provided - the old service 1 used to go that way in the past.
Quote from: paulb1973 on March 07, 2014, 04:39:48 PM
Quote from: Valandil on March 07, 2014, 08:14:50 AM
Quote from: Beano2211 on March 06, 2014, 11:16:12 PMIt will use Warwick Rd, Kenilworth Rd and Earlsdon Ave South, don't know if the 1 will replace it though.
I can't help wondering whether this would also make a stronger case for putting the bendis on that route ...
I guess the useful University of Warwick to Rail Station link remains then, handy for students. I presume the new bus-gate at the [new] junction of Park Rd and Quinton Rd only really benefits the 8/8A/9/9A group of services - from a NXC perspective.
If the 1 isn't diverted along Belvedere & Spencer Road's to cover the 11/12 then they will be un-served, so I would assume some cover will be provided - the old service 1 used to go that way in the past.
It seems that NXC have changed this plan and the 11/12 will continue to use Belvedere Rd.
NWM bus service changes for 23rd March is now available click here (http://www.networkwestmidlands.co.uk/bus/servicechanges/ServiceChangesPages/23March2014.aspx).
Indeed suggests the 11/12 continues to serve Belvedere Rd to Spencer Rd.
The 18A is to run via Butts, Albany Road and Earlsdon Ave South.
And hinted on NXC's facebook page: the 8/8A/9/9A will run via New Union St [and Greyfriars Rd] in both directions.
Thanks JPC
NX Coventry have confirmed Friargate re-routing, see here (http://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/temporary-diversions/friargate-diversions) for details.
It says the 11/12 will stop on the station forecourt but a new stop has been put in opposite, near to where the 8/9 turn right into the forecourt. Maybe this is for the 11/12?
Quote from: Beano2211 on March 13, 2014, 12:18:33 AM
It says the 11/12 will stop on the station forecourt but a new stop has been put in opposite, near to where the 8/9 turn right into the forecourt. Maybe this is for the 11/12?
Yeah, there's also a new stop on Park Road just before the new bus gate.
Click here (http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/Coventry/Coventry.aspx) for Centro's version of route changes and stop location details for all operators.
Also on 23rd March stand allocations at Pool Meadow bus station are changing yet again, click here (http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/Coventry/Pool_Meadow.aspx) for details.
Quote from: Beano2211 on March 13, 2014, 12:18:33 AM
It says the 11/12 will stop on the station forecourt
Only in one direction, for some reason!
I am on the lookout for amended timetables, which will surely have to be produced since some of these changes will affect both route and timetable, but I have not found any yet.
Quote from: Valandil on March 13, 2014, 09:19:13 PM
Quote from: Beano2211 on March 13, 2014, 12:18:33 AM
It says the 11/12 will stop on the station forecourt
Only in one direction, for some reason!
I am on the lookout for amended timetables, which will surely have to be produced since some of these changes will affect both route and timetable, but I have not found any yet.
I suppose the following quote sums it up really:
In changing your bus routes we have tried to make sure that we continue to serve as many people as possible but also avoid long diversions that would extend journey times too much for other passengers.
The only timetable I've found so far is for service 8/8A/9/9A located here (http://nxbus.co.uk/files/NXCoventry/current_timetables/C008_23Mar14.pdf).
Quote from: JPC on March 13, 2014, 09:30:50 PMThe only timetable I've found so far is for service 8/8A/9/9A located here (http://nxbus.co.uk/files/NXCoventry/current_timetables/C008_23Mar14.pdf).
The timetables and maps are now up on http://jp.networkwestmidlands.com/centro/XSLT_SELTT_REQUEST?language=en
Noticed today the Johnsons 539 service operating via Corporation St, Queen Victoria Rd etc. which of course reflects their amendment date on Vosa - 9th March, the bus driver aimlessly on the lookout for potential passengers as NWM infrastructure obviously isn't going to be updated until the 23rd or thereabouts. I gather both variants of service 580 (London Rd / Leamington Rd) also runs this way, I suppose there was or would have been complaints about these services avoiding the shopping areas if they didn't.
There is now an enhanced version of NXC's information on the changes, which can be found here:
http://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/service-changes/coventry-friargate-development
It gives some really nice little maps as well as summaries of the changes.
I imagine that it will be updated again with a map of the new route of the 18a at some point in the relatively near future.
Also, the Network West Midlands timetable for the 1 shows some minor changes (a minute's difference here and there), which I assume will also be worked into a new timetable on this page at some point too.
Quote from: Beano2211 on March 07, 2014, 07:52:34 PM
It seems that NXC have changed this plan and the 11/12 will continue to use Belvedere Rd.
Shame given how narrow it is down there. The council either need to sort the parking out or prevent buses going down there all together, I've seen quite a few near misses. It doesn't help having short sight lines with such tight corners and tall trees.
I was quite pleased with the fairly sensible nature of the Pool Meadow bus stop allocation unless I'm overlooking something.
I'm also pleased with the interesting scenario's the Friargate project will create but I'm just annoyed they're cutting trees down and possible mutilation of our
precious Ringroad.*
*Yes that was a Lord Of The Rings reference.
EDIT: The removed paragraph was probably better suited to the main NX garage thread.
A start has been made on modifying the central reservation at the bottom of Warwick Road, so that vehicles can turn right to access Eaton Road and the station. Routes 1 11/X/12.
Project off to a flying start.
Ring road closed at junction 9 while former "southbound" bridge over ring road is demolished. Ring road will reopen early tomorrow morning.
The new bus gate in Park Road has opened which is traffic light controlled. I've already seen cars using it despite it being clearly signposted for buses and taxis only.
New bus stop opposite station is called SG which is served by route 1 to Hospital, 9/A to Green Lane, 87/539/580 to City and Park & Ride to City.
The existing stop to city on the station forecourt is now also served by routes 11/12 to City.
Someone has stuck a Centro map over the 12 departures!
The forecourt stop that used to be served by the 9/A to Green Lane is only used by Park & Ride South.
Needless to say when the real time information screen is most needed it isn't working >:(
Having used the 12 today I was reasonably pleased. The new route will be a huge benefit for people coming in towards town on the bus, removing the need to cross the Warwick Road on foot.
I couldn't see the bus gates from my seat, but it looked like buses exiting the railway station, heading into the city centre have priority at the traffic lights on Park Road, (apologies if this was already mentioned, I just felt the need to reiterate it)
My only issue is that the 11/12 no longer serves the Quadrant, which could be an issue for elderly shoppers coming in from
Earlsdon.
As a bus passenger overall I'm satisfied with how the whole situation will work out, given that I was skeptical of the whole plan at first.
And as a person with an interest in how the impacts on the road network, traffic didn't seem too much worse on the ringroad this morning or this evening, although this morning I noticed a clockwise queue over the bridge which passes over the B4098 Radford Road junction but I have no idea why.
I will be visiting Warwick University next Tuesday, coming from Birmingham on the train.
I assume the best stop to use to Warwick Uni for the 11 is stop SD?
Quote from: uniquicity on March 24, 2014, 05:31:26 PM
I will be visiting Warwick University next Tuesday, coming from Birmingham on the train.
I assume the best stop to use to Warwick Uni for the 11 is stop SD?
Yes, stop SD on Warwick Road above the rail line for the most frequent NXC service 11/12 towards Warwick Uni.
The Stagecoach 16 service from the next stop down SE will also get you to Warwick Uni.
Alternately Travel De Courcey's W1C service (http://www.traveldecourcey.com/_userfiles/routes/w1a_w1c-1.pdf) from stand SA in front of the station offers a direct route to Warwick Uni but only runs hourly.
Outbound bus lane on The Butts between Ring Road and Albany Road has been removed/is now a left turn lane for all traffic (Friargate mitigation), the small section ahead of Albany Road remains making it nothing more than a glorified bus stop.
Thanks. I'm going to the Gibbet Hill site so the W1C looks perfect.
All of this is still in the Centro area?
Quote from: uniquicity on March 24, 2014, 08:46:43 PM
Thanks. I'm going to the Gibbet Hill site so the W1C looks perfect.
All of this is still in the Centro area?
Yes
Quote from: uniquicity on March 24, 2014, 08:46:43 PM
Thanks. I'm going to the Gibbet Hill site so the W1C looks perfect.
Just to let you know, the 16 also calls at Gibbet Hill (whether it is heading towards Stratford or Kenilworth) but takes a little longer than the W1c as it calls at the main university campus first, and the 11 calls at Gibbet Hill too on the way to Leamington, but this takes far longer.
(The 12 does not call at Gibbet Hill).
This gives you some other options so you wouldn't have to wait a whole hour if for example you are a little delayed.
Quote from: JPC on March 24, 2014, 08:39:20 PM
Outbound bus lane on The Butts between Ring Road and Albany Road has been removed/is now a left turn lane for all traffic (Friargate mitigation), the small section ahead of Albany Road remains making it nothing more than a glorified bus stop.
"Friargate mitigation" Great phrase :)
...So the traffic lights at the B4101/Ringroad junction aren't a coincidence then?
I'm of the opinion that the whole roundabout needs signalising, sometimes its a struggle for buses getting out of town to find a gap.
Quote from: ben710 on March 25, 2014, 08:28:14 AM
Quote from: JPC on March 24, 2014, 08:39:20 PM
Outbound bus lane on The Butts between Ring Road and Albany Road has been removed/is now a left turn lane for all traffic (Friargate mitigation), the small section ahead of Albany Road remains making it nothing more than a glorified bus stop.
"Friargate mitigation" Great phrase :)
...So the traffic lights at the B4101/Ringroad junction aren't a coincidence then?
I'm of the opinion that the whole roundabout needs signalising, sometimes its a struggle for buses getting out of town to find a gap.
Yes those traffic lights and other road changes around the place is coined as Friargate mitigation even the new mini-roundabout at Daventry Rd/Quinton Rd.
Also agree with Croft Road, it's outbound bus lane ought to be "gated" at the Starley Rd traffic lights to allow buses to approach the roundabout in the middle lane, entering the roundabout from the left hand side bus lane is a disaster waiting to happen.
The southbound bus shelters at Warwick Road station bridge are going to be removed within the next 7 days.
Also a new bus stop pole going to be sited on Grosvenor Link Road, all I can imagine this is for is a temporary loop for rail station bus services.
I presume in the long-term - better bus stop/shelter provision will be provided for Rail Station bus passengers - in whatever form that may be. I may be wrong, but I'm sure I caught sight of plans for a new mini bus-station in a re-designed station forecourt area.
The remaining road bridge that used to span the ring road at junction 6 was demolished during a road closure last weekend. The footbridge remains at the moment to give workers site access. The slip roads from the Quadrant have also been demolished with work on foundations for what will be a tunnel for the ring road now well underway.
Quote from: paulb1973 on July 25, 2014, 05:50:22 PM
I presume in the long-term - better bus stop/shelter provision will be provided for Rail Station bus passengers - in whatever form that may be. I may be wrong, but I'm sure I caught sight of plans for a new mini bus-station in a re-designed station forecourt area.
A bus interchange with a capacity for 10 buses/coaches is suggested on page 26 in this Coventry station masterplan document (http://www.cwlep.com/userFiles/coventry_station_report_20.3.14_low_res.pdf).
Quote from: JPC on July 24, 2014, 09:41:16 PM
Also a new bus stop pole going to be sited on Grosvenor Link Road, all I can imagine this is for is a temporary loop for rail station bus services.
This bus stop was installed as and when promised (westbound near Burger King) however it cannot be accessed as road traffic remains prohibited from entering Westminster Rd (a.k.a Grosvenor Link Road) from Warwick Road. The idea was so the Stagecoach routes can stop nearer to the station whilst the footpath is closed, in the meantime Stagecoach remain unhelpful by not serving Station Square and I have no idea if the junction is going to altered to allow buses to enter. ::)
Ring road has been closed at junction 6 this weekend with buses on routes 8/A, 9/A, 11/12 from city towards the station operating via Stoney Road.
This is to allow to removal of the remaining footbridge.
According to the local paper the first beams for the new bridge/tunnel are being delivered this week, with night time closures.
Quote from: JPC on August 02, 2014, 11:43:51 PM
Quote from: paulb1973 on July 25, 2014, 05:50:22 PM
I presume in the long-term - better bus stop/shelter provision will be provided for Rail Station bus passengers - in whatever form that may be. I may be wrong, but I'm sure I caught sight of plans for a new mini bus-station in a re-designed station forecourt area.
A bus interchange with a capacity for 10 buses/coaches is suggested on page 26 in this Coventry station masterplan document (http://www.cwlep.com/userFiles/coventry_station_report_20.3.14_low_res.pdf).
Indeed a 3-bay
Interim mini bus station will be sited at the western edge of Station Square, this of course will be stands Sa, Sb and Sc re-sited.
Plan (PDF document) from Coventry Council's planning portal: http://planning.coventry.gov.uk/portal/servlets/AttachmentShowServlet?ImageName=1150837
The beams forming the "roof" of the "tunnel" over junction 6 arrived under escort from South Wales and were craned into position.
This is the view this morning.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/9js734
One wonders what changes are possible or likely for the bus services in the near future, as access across the ring road junction could be open around 29th March 2015, this will be obvious for routes which will enter and exit the rail station to/from J6 but:
NXC 9/9A - as access across Station Square is seemingly going to be prohibited (except for taxis in the eastward direction) access to the Rail Station from Stoney Road might have to be via Quinton Rd and Ring Road, routing in the other direction might be more awkward but may become Warwick Road and Michaelmas Road assuming entering Michaelmas Road is possible as a large pedestrian refuge has been added to the junction since the grand old days of service C so it may be a safety hazard.
De Courcey (and Diamond) should seriously think about offering (or hand over to allow) something better/more competitive, for example combining services 85, 585 and X30/X31 could offer a 10 minute frequency along the core route on Monday-Fridays. The Saturday service has currently dwindled to a ghastly hourly 585 only, god knows why.
The W1A/C service could link up and merge with one of these services at the Rail Station.
The Ansty Park service ought to continue along Ansty Road and Hinckley Road (A4600) to the M6 Junction into Ansty Park (with 585 serving Dorchester Way?).
Well that's my two cents/aspirations for now, we shall look forward as always.
Two sections of Kassel kerb was laid at the rail station yesterday, presumably in preparation for the new station entrance. It is where the buses turn right out of the current stand, part of it is in the pavement and partially hidden for now having had Tarmac laid both sides of it whilst the pavement is still in use.
Full steam ahead with demolition work this weekend!
Routes 1, 11, 12 diverted inbound via Ring Road, Croft Road, New Union Street. Outbound all services via Stoney Road. Info on NXC website.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/1R319v
The first phase of the new road is open with outbound buses coming off ring road travelling on the newly laid road turning left at the new junction at bottom of Warwick Road then "doubling back" to enter the station as the new road hasn't been connected yet!
NXC now confirm their route changes (http://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/service-changes/service-changes-from-1st-june-2015) for the opening of Warwick Road over the Ring Road.
A couple of standard shelters and standalone RT screens are now erected at the new interchange.
Quote from: JPC on May 20, 2015, 07:24:58 PM
NXC now confirm their route changes (http://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/service-changes/service-changes-from-1st-june-2015) for the opening of Warwick Road over the Ring Road.
A couple of standard shelters and standalone RT screens are now erected at the new interchange.
The new interchange doesn't look very big considering the amount of buses using it.
Another bus shelter was being delivered about 30 minutes ago.
Manor Road will be closed permanently from Wednesday requiring buses to from City to enter and leave the station via Eaton Road. I don't know when the bus stands are going to be commissioned.
Buses are entering the station this weekend via Stoney Road and leaving via Eaton Road.
Short work was made of demolishing the bridge over the road.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/E6B71j
The routing of services since the opening of Warwick Rd bridge is rather muddled and makes a mockery of Centro's suggestions (http://www.networkwestmidlands.co.uk/Coventry/Coventry.aspx)
In summary NXC and Stagecoach now use the new bridge as promised but others DeCourcey, Johnsons & Diamond seem to not change their routes yet, bearing in mind I'm a passing commuter rather than one who spends time observing.
Probably most annoying for the users of the 87 service which continues it's convoluted routing via Junction 5, however I did see one inbound 539 passing through the Quadrant.
One only assumes those operators continue to follow what the tender states and they haven't been revised/updated yet for the appropriate new routing although some of the services are not tendered either.
The bus stop in Park Road by junction 5 has been replaced with new one with 85 etc and Johnson routes.
They have started putting the kerb in for the new bus drop off point on Eaton Rd outside what was the Allied Irish bank.
A local residents newsletter reports that the boarded up Rocket public house will be demolished this week and site used to assist with building subway between Central 6 and station. The tower outside the station will be covered with netting to allow it to be taken down over several months.