Buses will replace trains between New Street and Wolverhampton over the next week. From the 24/12/2017 till 02/01/2018.
Cross Country will divert between New Street and Wolverhampton - With Some trains not calling at Stafford. Virgin will divert between Wolverhampton and New Street - not calling at Sandwell And Dudley.
Buses will also replace trains between New Street and Rugeley on 24/12/17.
Does anyone know what operators will be operating on the rail replacement service?
Quote from: 2206 on December 22, 2017, 10:08:32 PM
Buses will replace trains between New Street and Wolverhampton over the next week. From the 24/12/2017 till 02/01/2018.
Cross Country will divert between New Street and Wolverhampton - With Some trains not calling at Stafford. Virgin will divert between Wolverhampton and New Street - not calling at Sandwell And Dudley.
Buses will also replace trains between New Street and Rugeley on 24/12/17.
Does anyone know what operators will be operating on the rail replacement service?
NXWM have both contracts, but have subcontracted some out to other operators including Midland Classic and Green Bus
What bus types being operated on these?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 28, 2017, 08:11:48 PM
What bus types being operated on these?
Who knows Midland Classic might surprise some with Optare Spectra
Quote from: Sayeed on December 28, 2017, 08:40:59 PM
Who knows Midland Classic might surprise some with Optare Spectra
Do nx use the y reg tridents too? And green bus aswell- sounds good
Is it just one bus every 30 mins?
Anyone know if its other operators other than nx on here today?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 30, 2017, 08:42:30 AM
Anyone know if its other operators other than nx on here today?
I've seen The Green Bus; not sure about any others
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 30, 2017, 08:42:30 AM
Anyone know if its other operators other than nx on here today?
Well NX are running the rail reps from PB, BC and WN using a variety of Platinum's, Trident's and Enviro 400's (although WN did put 2014(?) on standby the other day).
The Green Bus are also operating on there using a variety of Trident's (Plaxton President and ALX400's). But I did not see any of their ex NXWM President's on there at all...
Quote from: Michael Bevan on December 30, 2017, 10:54:54 AM
Well NX are running the rail reps from PB, BC and WN using a variety of Platinum's, Trident's and Enviro 400's (although WN did put 2014(?) on standby the other day).
The Green Bus are also operating on there using a variety of Trident's (Plaxton President and ALX400's). But I did not see any of their ex NXWM President's on there at all...
Looking at the allocation sheet it should be
4 x BC; 3 x WN & 4 x Green Bus this morning
2 x BC; 1 x WN; 1 x WB & 5 x Green Bus for the afternoon book ons
4322,4152 are on here along with an E400
6828, 112, 101 on replacement also
I wish we had TWM LVF lol
That would be a good idea.
Every company should have open data feeds, so some one could do These kind of LVF things.
Quote from: Kevin2017 on December 30, 2017, 08:20:26 PM
Every company should have open data feeds, so some one could do These kind of LVF things.
Why? Probably 99.9% of passengers couldn't give a stuff which bus was on which route, as long as it turned up. It's only enthusiasts who care and how many of them actually travel regularly on the bus? I don't, yes I am an enthusiast but I commute by train and occasionally use the bus at weekends.
Well the data is their, why not use it? where in the 21st centenary, god damn it!
Make use of what is out their etc
Quote from: Kevin2017 on December 31, 2017, 01:04:09 PM
Well the data is their, why not use it? where in the 21st centenary, god damn it!
Make use of what is out their etc
Also the century of autocorrect...
But on a serious note, a vehicle finder serves no benefit to the customer.
It does not have to be a finder, it can simply be a app or something, lot of apps on mobiles include the bus reg etc
Quote from: MW on December 31, 2017, 01:42:01 PM
But on a serious note, a vehicle finder serves no benefit to the customer.
That may be valid, but it is of benefit for enthusiasts, and that from what I can see is the sole reason for it's existence
Like this forum, no use for the general public but it doesn't exist for them, it's for people like us
Quote from: Kevin on December 31, 2017, 05:43:29 PM
That may be valid, but it is of benefit for enthusiasts, and that from what I can see is the sole reason for it's existence
Like this forum, no use for the general public but it doesn't exist for them, it's for people like us
Thats a valid argument but then again, those who are interested in buses and whatnot, have this forum so why create a partition in a app just to accommodate a small minority who to an extent already have access to the information they want ?
I agree with MW on the fact that it seems quite excessive for NX to go out of their way to incorporate a system into their current app so that enthusiasts can find a particular bus. This is why the "Buses To Find" thread exists. It's just a load of extra data company data the average bus user would be exposed to, that they don't really care for and it doesn't benefit them.
I honestly reckon the most a bus user actually cares for is that the bus turns up, if the bus is a Platinum on a non Platinum route, then its a nice surprise as you get some nice seats and you can charge your phone. I can't imagine the average bus user really giving a toss about the fleet number or the reg of a bus.
Well I think some of you have a very closed minded approach and negative view on it.
The reason that London Vehicle Finder is in existance is that TfL mandates that the company installs IBus equipment in all vehicles operating on LBSL contracts. The Ibus system drives countdown displays etc and more importantly allows TfL to monitor the contractor operations and ensure that they are following the contracted requirements. The bus companies do not own the data.
As a public organisation TfL has decided to release it's data to web and app developers to use, which has enabled LVF to be created.
P.S. The IBus system is why some vehicles take an age to go into service after being delivered as there are a finite number of spare IBus units, so units have to be removed from withdrawn vehicles.
Reading Buses and Lothian Buses are both still owned by their local authority so are covered by the Freedom of Information Act so could be forced to release this information. It just so happens that RB & LB are headed up by persons who are enthusiasts and both have AVL systems and Bus Stop displays which will have this data so it is easy to make it available.
NXWM however are a private company (i.e. not owned by a local authority so are not covered by the Freedom of Information Act) and so their AVL data could be classed as commercially sensitive. Also the live bus departure information on the NXWM website is provided by Network West Midlands and not NXWM.
Happy New Year
BC have 4875; 4876; 4879; 4880; 4949 on there today
Quote from: Tony on January 02, 2018, 08:55:18 AM
BC have 4875; 4876; 4879; 4880; 4949 on there today
There's a Johnson's MMC400 currently parked up along with some Green Bus Presidents at New St
Quote from: Tony on December 23, 2017, 09:13:04 AM
NXWM have both contracts, but have subcontracted some out to other operators including Midland Classic and Green Bus
@Tony is there any reason as to why national express don't keep rail replacement in house like they used to and Perry Barr used operate majority of the rail replacement
Quote from: Nxwm on January 02, 2018, 10:06:18 AM
@Tony is there any reason as to why national express don't keep rail replacement in house like they used to and Perry Barr used operate majority of the rail replacement
Where do you think all the buses and drivers are going to appear from on a day when they are operating a full normal service like today
Quote from: Tony on January 02, 2018, 08:55:18 AM
BC have 4875; 4876; 4879; 4880; 4949 on there today
4168 and 6770 are on RR too.
Quote from: Nxwm on January 02, 2018, 10:06:18 AM
@Tony is there any reason as to why national express don't keep rail replacement in house like they used to and Perry Barr used operate majority of the rail replacement
We are also very short on drivers too
WB have 4926 out as well
Today (2/1/18): TGB had V544 MOA, V51 MOA, T61 KLD, V15 TGB, PO51 WNF, PO51 WNJ, NK51 UCH, and sure it was Y38 HWB.
Midland Classic had BV55 UCU, and YN57 FWG.
Quote from: Tony on January 02, 2018, 10:21:44 AM
Where do you think all the buses and drivers are going to appear from on a day when they are operating a full normal service like today
If NX, or any other operator for that matter, don't have the capacity to run a service then why commit to taking it on?
Quote from: fleetline6477 on January 03, 2018, 08:03:22 PM
If NX, or any other operator for that matter, don't have the capacity to run a service then why commit to taking it on?
You do what all operators do in these situations, you take it on then subcontract some of the work out.
People hiring buses just want to deal with one person. Same as First for the commonwealth games in Edinburgh
Quote from: Tony on January 03, 2018, 08:12:39 PM
You do what all operators do in these situations, you take it on then subcontract some of the work out.
People hiring buses just want to deal with one person. Same as First for the commonwealth games in Edinburgh
It's the same as the current Preston to Blackpool bus substitution while the electrify the line, a number of different operators are providing the service. The new Blackpool Transport Palladium's are being used plus buses and coaches from other firms.
Quote from: Tony on January 03, 2018, 08:12:39 PM
You do what all operators do in these situations, you take it on then subcontract some of the work out.
People hiring buses just want to deal with one person. Same as First for the commonwealth games in Edinburgh
at one time an accrington based firm fraser eagle took on the rail work, then subcontracted to operators all over the uk. i remember when it was twm, they used to do work on there then. i guess this is just the same, nx taking it on then subbing it out.