Future movements speculation

[BK63 YWP]

Looks like NX are using deckers on the 4/4A whilst the 22** are on the 72s during today's strike.

I wonder when Coventry's diesel cascade happens if the 4 may receive some platinum deckers though with the 100 hydrogens and the amount of electrics coming to Coventry I doubt the tridents have long left

[BBS]

Looks like NX are using deckers on the 4/4A whilst the 22** are on the 72s during today's strike.

I wonder when Coventry's diesel cascade happens if the 4 may receive some platinum deckers though with the 100 hydrogens and the amount of electrics coming to Coventry I doubt the tridents have long left

Normally the E200MMCs are always full on the 4. Platinums will help because of more capacity but E200mmcs will be great for routes like the 1 and 17

[2206]

Normally the E200MMCs are always full on the 4. Platinums will help because of more capacity but E200mmcs will be great for routes like the 1 and 17

Or 4800's 4900's from Coventry maybe. Or they could go to PB and 44XX  for 4.

The 1 has long been a double decker route.

[cardew]

Normally the E200MMCs are always full on the 4. Platinums will help because of more capacity but E200mmcs will be great for routes like the 1 and 17

Trouble is a home would need to be found for the displaced single deckers. AG and WN have the highest number of non-Euro IV double deckers in the fleet by some distance and Solihull and Wolverhampton services *should* be Euro IV. I would have thought making inroads into their double deckers with cascades from somewhere would be a higher priority.

[BBS]

Trouble is a home would need to be found for the displaced single deckers. AG and WN have the highest number of non-Euro IV double deckers in the fleet by some distance and Solihull and Wolverhampton services *should* be Euro IV. I would have thought making inroads into their double deckers with cascades from somewhere would be a higher priority.

I mean the E200MMCs could go PB for 8A/8C and AG get the 11/12X platinums from CV. CV has the same amount of Platinums as 4/4A brandeds

[Tony]

I mean the E200MMCs could go PB for 8A/8C and AG get the 11/12X platinums from CV. CV has the same amount of Platinums as 4/4A brandeds

If only my job was that simple 

[BBS]

If only my job was that simple

Well that's how jobs work i guess hard work

[SK68MEV]

I mean the E200MMCs could go PB for 8A/8C and AG get the 11/12X platinums from CV. CV has the same amount of Platinums as 4/4A brandeds

CV platinums will most likely be the last busses too go as the older vehicles will be withdrawn or cascaded first most likely 

[don]

CV platinums will most likely be the last busses too go as the older vehicles will be withdrawn or cascaded first most likely

As there are 46 (or was it 42?) electrics in the first batch, there would be enough, or almost enough for both replacement of all the old DDs at CV (ALX 400 and Gemini) and the platinums - the platinums would have the advantage that a simple change of branding is all that would be required to cascade them elsewhere - NXWM can't repaint double deckers currently so the E400s are unlikely to be involved (unless some other process for dealing with them occurs) and transferring + repainting B7RLE single deckers is hardly going to assist with general fleet replacement - unless they replace existing double deckers say at WA or WN. 

[Tony]

46 in the first batch, 5 so far delivered.

You'll have to wait and see what happens, I am not allowed to give future movements.

[Stu]

CV platinums will most likely be the last busses too go as the older vehicles will be withdrawn or cascaded first most likely

That does sound logical, however...

As there are 46 (or was it 42?) electrics in the first batch, there would be enough, or almost enough for both replacement of all the old DDs at CV (ALX 400 and Gemini) and the platinums - the platinums would have the advantage that a simple change of branding is all that would be required to cascade them elsewhere - NXWM can't repaint double deckers currently so the E400s are unlikely to be involved (unless some other process for dealing with them occurs) and transferring + repainting B7RLE single deckers is hardly going to assist with general fleet replacement - unless they replace existing double deckers say at WA or WN.

I did think about this the other day too, whether it might actually be possible for the 20 current Platinums at Coventry to be among the first vehicles to be replaced, thus giving the West Midlands fleet some replacements for older double-decks, or some additional capacity on busier single deck routes.

Certainly it is probably more likely that older vehicles will be disposed of first as a priority, but you make a good point about repainting vehicles, though I'm sure Tony has said that the new equipment at Walsall bodyshop should be ready soon.

Its not unheard of though for Coventry-liveried vehicles to operate on WM services (and vice-versa), so this could happen even if just as a short-term measure.

46 in the first batch, 5 so far delivered.

You'll have to wait and see what happens, I am not allowed to give future movements.

I'm sure you already have some kind of plan in place, so part of the 'fun' is trying to second-guess you!

[BNH2004]

CV platinums will most likely be the last busses too go as the older vehicles will be withdrawn or cascaded first most likely

Maybe
CVs 47**, 48**, 49** could transfer to WN and WA to replace 43**/ 44** tridents as more drivers are type trained on those vehicles at both WN and WA had/have E400s
If CV have Euro 6 Geminis they could go to AG to replace older gemninis that aren't euro 6
and the 69**/75** at CV could go to BC and YW to replace 43**/ 44** tridents

NXWM can't repaint double deckers currently so the E400s are unlikely to be involved and transferring + repainting B7RLE single deckers is hardly going to assist with general fleet replacement

NXC logos could be removed and replaced with NXWM logos until they can be repainted

[2206]

Maybe
CVs 47**, 48**, 49** could transfer to WN and WA to replace 43**/ 44** tridents as more drivers are type trained on those vehicles at both WN and WA had/have E400s
If CV have Euro 6 Geminis they could go to AG to replace older gemninis that aren't euro 6
and the 69**/75** at CV could go to BC and YW to replace 43**/ 44** tridents

NXC logos could be removed and replaced with NXWM logos until they can be repainted

I dont think they would go to WA. 6, 10, 41, etc don't need euro 6 buses.
49 and 76 do I think.

[BBS]

Maybe
CVs 47**, 48**, 49** could transfer to WN and WA to replace 43**/ 44** tridents as more drivers are type trained on those vehicles at both WN and WA had/have E400s
If CV have Euro 6 Geminis they could go to AG to replace older gemninis that aren't euro 6
and the 69**/75** at CV could go to BC and YW to replace 43**/ 44** tridents

NXC logos could be removed and replaced with NXWM logos until they can be repainted

The 69**/ 75** can also go AG too and could replace old 42** and 44**s 

[BK63 YWP]

There are 124 hydrogen due next year so I feel the tridents will become a rare breed!