I know NX have had service updates today but I saw new registrations for 5th June 2022
So Far
3/4
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/541739/
15/15A
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/594031/
16
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/594030/
22
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/594032/
X12
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/593971/
X13
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/593972/
Quote from: BNH2004 on April 24, 2022, 05:36:49 PMI know NX have had service updates today but I saw new registrations for 5th June 2022
So Far
3/4
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/541739/
15/15A
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/594031/
16
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/594030/
22
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/594032/
X12
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/593971/
X13
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/593972/
These are not 'new registrations', but are 'variations', which means there are adjustments to registered timetables, that's all.
Probably just early summer timetables introduced.
Some reduced frequencies according to new Timtetables on TFWM site.
X12/X13 off peak every half hour each from June. 49 off peak every 20 minutes.
Quote from: 2206 on April 30, 2022, 11:42:44 PMX12/X13 off peak every half hour each from June.
That's going to be painful at some parts of the day. It'd seem it's going to be every 25 minutes in the peak for each for the routes (making a every 12-13 minute combined frequency for those two routes)
Also, the Sunday X13 short journeys have been withdrawn.
According to TfWM website, WN 16 going to 30 mins frequency, nothing on the 15 yet but I feel it could go back to every 30 mins also maybe the reintroduction of the 15E Merry Hill to Wall Heath
Quote from: BK63 YWP on May 02, 2022, 09:08:53 PMAccording to TfWM website, WN 16 going to 30 mins frequency, nothing on the 15 yet but I feel it could go back to every 30 mins also maybe the reintroduction of the 15E Merry Hill to Wall Heath
Hi is it possible that you can send me the link of these changes as I can't find it on the websites?
Thanks
Quote from: Trav05 on May 02, 2022, 10:07:29 PMHi is it possible that you can send me the link of these changes as I can't find it on the websites?
Thanks
https://legacy.wmnetwork.co.uk/plan-your-journey/find-a-timetable/#/
https://legacy.wmnetwork.co.uk/plan-your-journey/find-a-timetable/#/route/cen_33016_W_H_y11_24-24
The N4 variation 24, suggests this route is reverting back to a X-City route, between i54 and Spring Hill, with Spring Hill now named as a finishing point.
With the N3 variation still providing a 20 min frequency between Castlecroft and Fordhouses, the N4 will most likely match it, to provide 10 min frequency (7 mins before Dudley West Review) between Merridale and Oxley, where at present the combination is only available between City Centre Market St. and Oxley, at the same 10 min frequency.
This would then suggest, as BK63 YWP mentions above, the likelihood of the N15 reverting back to 30 mins frequency, from current 20 mins. If the N4 is now serving Spring Hill, then N15 will most likely be re-routed back down Penn Road with the N16, that has also been reduced back to 30 mins, where the combined services will provide 4 NX buses an hour along Penn Road, as was the case before the Dudley West Review changes were applied in Jan 2020.
Yeah, the WN15 has a Route and Timetable change on its registration - https://bustimes.org/registrations/PD0001111/812
I do wonder if the old 255E is coming back so the 15 is every 15 mins between Merry Hill and Wall Heath?
The TFWM timetables have started to be updated:
4:
Will now be extended back to Spring Hill Every 20 Minutes
15:
Will now return onto the Penn Road and will run Every 30 Minutes
15A:
Will return to the Penn Road
16:
Will have its frequency reduced to Every 30 Minute
28 down to every 15 minutes as well during the day as well.
WA 41 reduced to every 30 minutes daytime
Still 20 minutes peak hour
WA 8/9 revised afternoon peak time table.
I guess that also means it'll also end the one way loop that Harborne routes have operated for years. No more links to Moor St, New St etc.
Quote from: MasterPlan on May 18, 2022, 08:19:40 AMI guess that also means it'll also end the one way loop that Harborne routes have operated for years. No more links to Moor St, New St etc.
yes time timetable & route change 5 june along with other services that will be back along broad st but we will have to wait & see if popular they will keep it as it is & run via broad st & new st station
QuoteI guess that also means it'll also end the one way loop that Harborne routes have operated for years. No more links to Moor St, New St etc.
What will?
Quote from: Tony on May 18, 2022, 08:43:49 AMWhat will?
@Tony with the return of the 23/24 to Broad Street, can't it go down Broad Street then right where it meets the 82/87 down to Smallbrook Queensway, round the City loop and back down Broad Street. Or is there a reason why it can't do that?
Surely it will just be the Bath Row and Cambridge Street/Seehpcote Street it won't serve anymore?
Before a lot of changes in that area the 126 used to turn right at the end of Broad Street to serve the Markets and Moor Street/New Street Stations.
Quote from: 2206 on May 18, 2022, 10:21:01 AM@Tony with the return of the 23/24 to Broad Street, can't it go down Broad Street then right where it meets the 82/87 down to Smallbrook Queensway, round the City loop and back down Broad Street. Or is there a reason why it can't do that?
Surely it will just be the Bath Row and Cambridge Street/Seehpcote Street it won't serve anymore?
Before a lot of changes in that area the 126 used to turn right at the end of Broad Street to serve the Markets and Moor Street/New Street Stations.
The 126 used Bath Row instead of doing that.
Quote from: Jack on May 18, 2022, 12:02:38 PMThe 126 used Bath Row instead of doing that.
126 returned to Broad Street after using Bath Row I think.
It only used Bath Row for a short period in 2015/2016, due to Paradise development roadworks I think. Moving back to Broad Street in 2016 not long after then platinums were delivered.
It was some time in 2017 when it was moved over to Colmore Row I think.
Quote from: MasterPlan on May 18, 2022, 08:19:40 AMI guess that also means it'll also end the one way loop that Harborne routes have operated for years. No more links to Moor St, New St etc.
No idea how things will end up, but wouldn't it be possible for Harborne routes to continue to serve that loop? With the new Broad Street layout there's a right turn onto Suffolk Street, so they could run via Broad St, Suffolk St, Holloway Circus and along the existing loop.
It is a very useful link to have the Harborne Routes serving the New Street and Moor Street.
The majority of people leave at New Street and Bull Ring so its proven to be popular
Quote from: sonic84 on May 18, 2022, 05:30:21 PMIt is a very useful link to have the Harborne Routes serving the New Street and Moor Street.
The majority of people leave at New Street and Bull Ring so its proven to be popular
The New Street and Moor Street stops on there are both busy stops as far as I know. Also it will restore the link to Broad Street, the 126 and Harborne Roads have had in the past.
Though time I caught that route several months ago on the 19th January 2022.
When it got to the New Street stop the bus announcement said "This Bus Terminates Here all change please". I think the bus had some layover there and went out on the 23 having come in on the 24.
But I did think surely it shouldn't do that on that route, and people should be able to continue onto Colmore Row, etc.
Quote from: 2206 on May 18, 2022, 05:46:52 PMThe New Street and Moor Street stops on there are both busy stops as far as I know. Also it will restore the link to Broad Street, the 126 and Harborne Roads have had in the past.
Though time I caught that route several months ago on the 19th January 2022.
When it got to the New Street stop the bus announcement said "This Bus Terminates Here all change please". I think the bus had some layover there and went out on the 23 having come in on the 24.
But I did think surely it shouldn't do that on that route, and people should be able to continue onto Colmore Row, etc.
Passengers can stay on, the bus has to technically terminate somewhere, the 16 does the same at the markets but Passengers can get on before and stay on past markets
Quote from: Lukeee on May 18, 2022, 09:36:59 PMPassengers can stay on, the bus has to technically terminate somewhere, the 16 does the same at the markets but Passengers can get on before and stay on past markets
Yes I know its officially the terminus, but they shouldn't have announcements saying "All change please" on those routes, sounds like you have to get off.
Its not like the services that terminate at Priory Queensway where theres a proper last stop in the City Centre.
Quote from: MasterPlan on May 18, 2022, 08:19:40 AMI guess that also means it'll also end the one way loop that Harborne routes have operated for years. No more links to Moor St, New St etc.
Quote from: Solo1 on May 18, 2022, 08:32:14 AMyes time timetable & route change 5 june along with other services that will be back along broad st but we will have to wait & see if popular they will keep it as it is & run via broad st & new st station
Any link to this info please?
Quote from: Stu on May 19, 2022, 09:45:32 AMAny link to this info please?
The info on the 23/24 returning to Broad St, which includes the link to the timetable from June 5th showing that they still serve New St Station is here under the Bus 23 Service Updates section:
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/services-timetables/23-birmingham-bartley-green
Frequencies on 22/23 further reduced to every 11 mins each during the day, every 10 mins each during peak hours.
| 5 Jun 22 | Registered | Timetable and Route Change | Operating between Bartley Green and Birmingham City Centre given service number 22 / 23 / 24 effective from 05 June 2022. To amend Route and Timetable |
Yes it will still serve new st station see link https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/services-timetables/23-birmingham-bartley-green from 5 June
Quote from: Mike K on May 19, 2022, 11:35:50 AMThe info on the 23/24 returning to Broad St, which includes the link to the timetable from June 5th showing that they still serve New St Station is here under the Bus 23 Service Updates section:
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/services-timetables/23-birmingham-bartley-green
Frequencies on 22/23 further reduced to every 11 mins each during the day, every 10 mins each during peak hours.
Thanks, that wasn't there when I looked on that page earlier this morning!
Interesting 126 keeps the Cambridge Street/Sheepcote Street route it seems.
Quote from: 2206 on May 19, 2022, 01:45:52 PMInteresting 126 keeps the Cambridge Street/Sheepcote Street route it seems.
I would guess the length of time all these services have been using this diversion, some locals have gotten used to this, so keeping the 126 going this way maintains some level of service through that area behind the ICC.
Why are the 23 and 24 moving stops from MS10 to MS9? I don't see what difference it makes as they're right next to each other anyway.
Perhaps 9/12/12a/13/13a will not stop there
Quote from: Ginger66 on May 21, 2022, 10:54:33 AMPerhaps 9/12/12a/13/13a will not stop there
Not stop where?
QuoteThe New Street and Moor Street stops on there are both busy stops as far as I know. Also it will restore the link to Broad Street, the 126 and Harborne Roads have had in the past.
Though time I caught that route several months ago on the 19th January 2022.
When it got to the New Street stop the bus announcement said "This Bus Terminates Here all change please". I think the bus had some layover there and went out on the 23 having come in on the 24.
But I did think surely it shouldn't do that on that route, and people should be able to continue onto Colmore Row, etc.
The driver usually changes the destination to go back out to Harborne before the bus gets to New Street. I can only assume that was one of the exceptions.
Has the X51 had a route change from the new retail park to Cannock as now goes via delta way
No, just a temporary diversion
Quote from: Tony on June 15, 2022, 01:56:56 PMNo, just a temporary diversion
Ok thanks how long is diversion on for & how come chaserider 60 not diverted as don't both go the same way from the new retail park to Cannock
Quote from: Solo1 on June 15, 2022, 02:34:47 PMOk thanks how long is diversion on for & how come chaserider 60 not diverted as don't both go the same way from the new retail park to Cannock
28 has been on diversion in Erdington for at least a week now as well. They come up Station Road, then up to Six Ways and u turn back down.
Last week I saw one using South Road on its way to Great Barr.