Seen at Old Square today, this Sunny Travel driver who overtook the NXWM bus on the inside, using the wrong lane to turn right at high speed. Rather a dangerous manouvre. He was lucky there was no traffic waiting to come out of Priory Queensway, because he couldn't control the bus enough to stay the correct side of the give way line. See photo attached
caught in the act!!
do you think theres a "beat the nxwm" any which way you can driving school? shame your not in wn with ya camera tony. you could cop some beauties of the excellent driving standards of another 2 loonies reguarly driving in competition with nxwm.
The president isn't even on a competing service, so what was the motivation for this?
All of the little companies do it, maybe to a lesser extent than this. It isn't unusual to see an independant trying to overtake NXWM buses when there are genrous loadings regardless of when they are scheduled to run! Though i can understand this may be neccassary to make it pay, surely setting up a taxi business would be betetr if it is rthat difficult to play the bus game!?
Quote from: BU07 LGO on July 06, 2012, 12:27:45 AM
All of the little companies do it, maybe to a lesser extent than this. It isn't unusual to see an independant trying to overtake NXWM buses when there are genrous loadings regardless of when they are scheduled to run! Though i can understand this may be neccassary to make it pay, surely setting up a taxi business would be betetr if it is rthat difficult to play the bus game!?
agree with this probably because for example if NXWM 16 is running ahead of a Diamond/GRS Travel they would normally overtake at any oppurtunity to get the passengers :P
Quote from: 4006 on July 23, 2012, 10:18:02 PM
Same as Travel Express on the 11 they will do anything to get ahead and then 'Hog' the stand at the station! If a NX bus is on the 11 stand (even if its on time) and a TE comes in it will blast the horn straight away without even giving the driver a chance to move! The NX driver has to sit there waiting their time (or there may be a delay changing driver or a lengthy passenger problem/issue) while the TE will que right up its ass blocking the 32/33 stand or worse pull up beside and wait and block the whole bus station. Then when the NX driver leaves the TE will pull onto the stand and sit there for 5 sometimes 10 mins with the ENGINE RUNNING! then it will leave progress to Stafford Street and block that stand for 5-10 mins the reason for this obviously is that these two stops are the main pick-ups
PATHETIC! especially as NX drivers get booked for this (one got booked the other day for not stopping on the right stand even!!!!)
and worse Centro staff watch this happen day in day out yet still they are allowed to continue in their pig ignorant mannor!
P.S I do not put all the TE drivers in the same basket as I said before but some of them are complete idiots!
well 10 mins is on overstay on stand so would be booked by centro if there doing there job the engine is another ticket so thats some money out the drivers bonus (if they have one)
Im sure some bus drivers dont turn off the engine of the bus incase they cant get it started again, as i normally use NXWM or Diamond when the drivers have turned the engine off and back on a few minutes later they have always seem to get them going first time with no trouble
I have now put full vehicle histories on the current vehicles of Sunny Travel
http://wmbusphotos.com/Sunny/fleetlist.html
Are sunny travel making a return to the 87? I saw one of their darts by summerfield park
Quote from: dgss1 on April 14, 2013, 08:46:05 PM
Are sunny travel making a return to the 87? I saw one of their darts by summerfield park
Not to my knowledge, if so, they'll only be able to operate to Town Hall, unless they use their low floor dart(s)
They fuel up by there at the garage it's a yellow
one not sure of the name off it then go up to the
depot to park for the night
W573XRO, seen on the 71E today, Still in UNO livery
Quote from: neale95 on June 13, 2013, 07:30:13 PM
W573XRO, seen on the 71E today, Still in UNO livery
Good to see a new arrival and a full size dart too! operate a good service on 71 and good to see exit of a step dart!
Another UNO dart out on 71E today
Quote from: neale95 on September 04, 2013, 01:34:01 PM
Another UNO dart out on 71E today
Its V563JBH passed me heading for Solihull near Marston Green this morning while I was on 4466 on the 59A :)
Currently on P954 RUL, good bus, little rattily here and there but quick, no interlock to worry about and interior good, Sunny seem to do ok on the 71 considering there are 3 op's on the route.
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on September 11, 2013, 02:14:09 PM
Currently on P954 RUL, good bus, little rattily here and there but quick, no interlock to worry about and interior good, Sunny seem to do ok on the 71 considering there are 3 op's on the route.
What is the passenger loadings like, on Sunny?
Quote from: Liverpool Street on September 11, 2013, 03:17:51 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on September 11, 2013, 02:14:09 PM
Currently on P954 RUL, good bus, little rattily here and there but quick, no interlock to worry about and interior good, Sunny seem to do ok on the 71 considering there are 3 op's on the route.
What is the passenger loadings like, on Sunny?
Well one of the Irish plate Darts came out of Solihull near capacity with most seats filled which did surprise me, tends to be quieter the other way round I think from Chelmsley to Solihull because passengers go through already on NXWM's offerings though we probably did turn around maybe 20 passengers, that was with missing out Marston Green station as the driver asked if anyone wanted to get off there, no one did so he didn't bother going in, so there could have been a couple more there waiting who might have used Sunny
M442BLC now pink and purple, similar to the exUNO darts.
also they have new ticket machines.
Could this b the livery for city line travel
or has sunny travel having a new fleet livery
This is a re livery for sunny travel. Please all note sunny travel has nothing to do with city line other than being their land lords
Quote from: Steveminor on October 31, 2013, 05:47:14 PM
This is a re livery for sunny travel. Please all note sunny travel has nothing to do with city line other than being their land lords
Steve,
Do City Line Travel own the ex Uno vehicles or are they Sunny Travel's?
Can't say too much for legal reasons but city line used to own 6 uno darts. 2 of those are now owned by sunny travel. This may increase if city lines owner doesn't pay his rent or even answer his phone to let anyone know what is going on.
This part is also relevant to the city line thread. Sunny travel assisted city line in procuring operational items I.E destination blinds ticket machines etc but since the date they were supposed to start operating no city line staff has been seen or heard from, so I guess they aren't going to start any time soon ( & if they don't pay their bills soon they may not have enough if any buses to operate their service) probably why the change in livery UNOs livery IS much better than sunny travels
Quote from: Steveminor on October 31, 2013, 05:47:14 PM
This is a re livery for sunny travel. Please all note sunny travel has nothing to do with city line other than being their land lords
Do they not have the same transport manager?
Quote from: neale95 on October 31, 2013, 07:09:03 PM
Quote from: Steveminor on October 31, 2013, 05:47:14 PM
This is a re livery for sunny travel. Please all note sunny travel has nothing to do with city line other than being their land lords
Do they not have the same transport manager?
And Uno claim to have sold the buses to Sunny Travel not City Line
Like I said Tony sunny travel assisted in purchasing some operational items for city line.
Quote from: neale95 on October 31, 2013, 07:09:03 PM
Quote from: Steveminor on October 31, 2013, 05:47:14 PM
This is a re livery for sunny travel. Please all note sunny travel has nothing to do with city line other than being their land lords
Do they not have the same transport manager?
They do, Mr Inderjit Singh, Now as VOSA does not like remote Transport Managers, just someone with a CPC, named to get licenses. They insist Transport Managers take an active role in the running of the company there is a definate link between the two
It isn't against vosa rules for a transport manager to work for 2 seperate companies. Look at the owners names & the contact address they are both different.
They ARE NOTHING to do with each other. If they were then believe me they would have been running in redditch by now.
Quote from: Steveminor on November 03, 2013, 07:20:42 PM
It isn't against vosa rules for a transport manager to work for 2 seperate companies. Look at the owners names & the contact address they are both different.
They ARE NOTHING to do with each other. If they were then believe me they would have been running in redditch by now.
If that is correct, how is it VOSA record Mr Inderjit Singh as Transport Manager for both companies today
As I said a transport manager can work for 2 companies.
Me & my partners when we had inonespin travel in Weston had ama rai as our transport manager. Didn't mean we were owned by Bharat though.
Quote from: Steveminor on November 03, 2013, 09:18:49 PM
As I said a transport manager can work for 2 companies.
Me & my partners when we had inonespin travel in Weston had ama rai as our transport manager. Didn't mean we were owned by Bharat though.
I have never said Sunny owned City Line or Vice Versa, just that there was a link, and the link is Mr Singh, who as Transport Manager, it is his responsibilty to ensure the company complies with VOSA rules and regulations which he doesn't seem to be doing with City Line as they are not running a registered service.
Apparently mr Singh has contacted vosa & as transport manager cancelled city lines registered service. He tells me he has also informed the tc that he has had no contact with anyone else who is connected with city line since 2 days before operations were due to begin.
City lines buses have now been seized by sunny travel in lieu of monies owed.
It doesn't look like city line will be starting no route registered & now no buses.
I think it will be some time before we see them on the 71 as I'm told they are in no fit state to carry passengers safely
Quote from: neale95 on October 31, 2013, 10:58:01 AM
M442BLC now pink and purple, similar to the exUNO darts.
also they have new ticket machines.
Here it is
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/10801474965/
I thought it was another EX Uno bus
I believe I saw another ex UNO Dart on the 71E today, W577. I couldn't be certain as I was driving in the opposite direction.
You are correct I saw it while I was working in Solihull & then gave it a parking ticket for parking in a taxi rank
Quote from: Steveminor on November 20, 2013, 09:15:35 PM
You are correct I saw it while I was working in Solihull & then gave it a parking ticket for parking in a taxi rank
Can't beat a good Code 45!
(Or for those who are not aware of Parking Contraventions - or a non Parking Management persuasion - Code 45 is Parked on a taxi rank!)
Very knowledgable but code 47 is better lol
Parked on a bus stop. Got 2 vans on that today so 1 happy NX driver 1 happy rotala driver & 2 unhappy van drivers
Quote from: Steveminor on November 20, 2013, 09:53:39 PM
Very knowledgable but code 47 is better lol
Yes...47s are good but I like Code 99!
Don't get many of them in Solihull, so it's even sweeter when you get one. Even better last month when I finally got one on a Lamborghini You work in parking then?
Quote from: Steveminor on November 20, 2013, 10:04:31 PM
Don't get many of them in Solihull, so it's even sweeter when you get one. Even better last month when I finally got one on a Lamborghini You work in parking then?
:)
Maybe I should make a thread for Civil Officers?
Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 20, 2013, 10:13:56 PM
Maybe I should make a thread for Civil Officers?
Civil
Enforcement Officers LS!
Quote from: the trainbasher on November 20, 2013, 10:28:28 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 20, 2013, 10:13:56 PM
Maybe I should make a thread for Civil Officers?
Civil Enforcement Officers LS!
Ahh yes, but you're office based are you not Tom?
Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 20, 2013, 11:20:34 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on November 20, 2013, 09:56:54 PM
Quote from: Steveminor on November 20, 2013, 09:53:39 PM
Very knowledgable but code 47 is better lol
Yes...47s are good but I like Code 99!
What is a code 99, out of interest?
Code 99
Title Stopped on a pedestrian crossing and/or crossing area marked by zig-zags
Type On street
Differential level Higher
Or in lay mans terms - Parked on a zebra crossing or other kind of pedestrian crossing with Zig Zags. - £70 (or £35 if paid within 14 days!) - but if the old bill get you it's 3 points and one of their fines instead!
I would actually happily have your job Tom! To be able to do something every time I see a 106 parked in a bus stop...
Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 20, 2013, 11:53:28 PM
I would actually happily have your job Tom! To be able to do something every time I see a 106 parked in a bus stop...
The greatest chaos I've ever seen caused was when this van parked at the 50 stand in town. There was a diamond sat behind, a green bus and nx as well. Shame someone couldn't have ticketed that...
Quote from: DiamondDart on November 20, 2013, 11:54:43 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 20, 2013, 11:53:28 PM
I would actually happily have your job Tom! To be able to do something every time I see a 106 parked in a bus stop...
The greatest chaos I've ever seen caused was when this van parked at the 50 stand in town. There was a diamond sat behind, a green bus and nx as well. Shame someone couldn't have ticketed that...
Birmingham might have given him a Reg10 PCN (parking ticket by post) as opposed to a Reg9 (ticket on window).
Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 20, 2013, 11:53:28 PM
I would actually happily have your job Tom! To be able to do something every time I see a 106 parked in a bus stop...
I am the back office admin person who sends out the officers to locations and compiles parking stats for senior management (and gets head bitten off by people who my officers have fined!)
My LA has their officers and office functions in house as opposed to Birmingham and Sandwell where they use people like APCOA and NCP/NSL.
Quote from: DiamondDart on November 20, 2013, 11:54:43 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 20, 2013, 11:53:28 PM
I would actually happily have your job Tom! To be able to do something every time I see a 106 parked in a bus stop...
The greatest chaos I've ever seen caused was when this van parked at the 50 stand in town. There was a diamond sat behind, a green bus and nx as well. Shame someone couldn't have ticketed that...
MS2, the one by Selfridges? Oh dear... there's usually an inspector or two stood there, would've thought they could do something
Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 21, 2013, 12:00:05 AM
Quote from: DiamondDart on November 20, 2013, 11:54:43 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 20, 2013, 11:53:28 PM
I would actually happily have your job Tom! To be able to do something every time I see a 106 parked in a bus stop...
The greatest chaos I've ever seen caused was when this van parked at the 50 stand in town. There was a diamond sat behind, a green bus and nx as well. Shame someone couldn't have ticketed that...
MS2, the one by Selfridges? Oh dear... there's usually an inspector or two stood there, would've thought they could do something
Under TMA 2004 CEOs, and approved CCTV devices can issue PCNs under Reg9 or Reg10
(as an aside I am known by my lot to absolutely hate PPCs (Private Land Parking Enforcement Companies) as can be seen by my signature!)
Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 21, 2013, 12:00:05 AM
Quote from: DiamondDart on November 20, 2013, 11:54:43 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 20, 2013, 11:53:28 PM
I would actually happily have your job Tom! To be able to do something every time I see a 106 parked in a bus stop...
The greatest chaos I've ever seen caused was when this van parked at the 50 stand in town. There was a diamond sat behind, a green bus and nx as well. Shame someone couldn't have ticketed that...
MS2, the one by Selfridges? Oh dear... there's usually an inspector or two stood there, would've thought they could do something
One was stood there talking about it on the phone but the van drove off fairly soon after. And yeah it was MS2 at a time when even more services stopped there
There is an enforcement camera that overlooks those bus stops so while he may think he's got away with it he will recieve a nice Xmas present in the post. That's why you never see an enforcement officer issue any fines in birmingham on code 47 as the cameras have already got them.
As a side note the cameras are now being programmed to issue code 30 to buses that overstay on the birmingham stops but in Solihull even though the tro (traffic regulation order says 4 mins on a stop, we are not allowed to issue overstays to buses "yet". It can be very frustrating when buses are left unattended on stops causing chaos & we can't do anything about it. Although the police can issue fines for causing an obstruction but seldom do.
Best ever ticket bus related I've seen is a pair of Thandi coaches getting Code 01 in Dudley. Parked for 2 hours too...on the pavement!
I was on my day off when I saw the officers booking it...
My best was at Solihull station. I booked the rotala staff car on code 47, an NX driver stopped opposite & started taking the p&@s out of the rotala driver. Meanwhile I was across the road giving him a code 02 PCN much to rotala drivers amusement
Quote from: Steveminor on November 21, 2013, 11:29:36 AM
My best was at Solihull station. I booked the rotala staff car on code 47, an NX driver stopped opposite & started taking the p&@s out of the rotala driver. Meanwhile I was across the road giving him a code 02 PCN much to rotala drivers amusement
Cant beat a loading ban! :-)
sunny travel have a new bus out to day itr was due to be with City line but this never happened http://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/11876138094/
Quote from: Solo1 on January 10, 2014, 08:18:46 PM
sunny travel have a new bus out to day itr was due to be with City line but this never happened http://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/11876138094/
This bus has been with sunny travel a while now 573 was first then 563 and now they have 577 and they've painted up one of the step entrance darts in this pink and purple livery M442BLC :)
How big is sunny travels yard if it now has
some of the city line buses there as well
They own the industrial estate across from their garage so they have loads of space
Noticed this afternoon at 15:53 on East Meadway (that well known road on the 71E route - NOT), V563JBH. Driver merrily messing around with his 'phone instead of paying attention to the road...
Quote from: dave47549 (no longer NEL111P) on January 22, 2014, 10:28:22 PM
Noticed this afternoon at 15:53 on East Meadway (that well known road on the 71E route - NOT), V563JBH. Driver merrily messing around with his 'phone instead of paying attention to the road...
There's a Joes Travel driver who uses his phone at the wheel, amazes me how reckless the little guys can be...
one of their buses was driving along Lode Lane around half 5/6 today with the bonnet open!
The bonnet latch has now been replaced in that bus so it shouldn't happen again.
On a side note when AMPM were in the 110 I was route training a driver, when we pulled up in sutton the arriva driver behind ran up to tell us the bonnet was open. We closed it as he drove off. We then had to catch him up to tell him his bonnet was open. By the time both buses reached tamworth both bonnets were open again. But this didn't happen to either bus again on subsequent trips
Does anybody know whether P954RUL has gone for repaint into Pink & Purple (UNO) Livery? Because I haven't seen it for short while
Quote from: dave47549 (no longer NEL111P) on January 22, 2014, 10:28:22 PM
Noticed this afternoon at 15:53 on East Meadway (that well known road on the 71E route - NOT), V563JBH. Driver merrily messing around with his 'phone instead of paying attention to the road...
... & today at 15:35, 'Santa' eating his crisps whilst driving V573 in service. At least this guy was on route though.
It's far too cold to paint yet. It's still around & only had a day off for its inspection as far as I'm aware
I've been told that 2 more of the ex city line darts are almost ready to go for their mot's once they have the final 2 step entry darts will be retired & scrapped.
The length of time it has taken to get these 2 city line darts ready just shows how unready city line were for their service. Not my words but " it's as if they had no intention of ever putting a bus on the road"
V564JBH is the latest addition to ST I managed to get a pic of it on Moorend Avenue heading for Solihull this morning link is below.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/114083385@N05/14237353755/
Quote from: Rob on May 21, 2014, 02:16:01 PM
V564JBH is the latest addition to ST I managed to get a pic of it on Moorend Avenue heading for Solihull this morning link is below.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/114083385@N05/14237353755/
They have started to clean up the pink/purple livery on some of the darts. looks much better.
W577XRO has had its livery cleaned up and is now exactly the same as V564JBH in the pic but I do agree with you
@Matt.N0056 they do look a bit smarter now they've had their livery cleaned up . :)
Also T102KGP is now in UNO Livery :)
here is W577XRO with Sunny Travel https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/14310854251/
P954RUL is now in UNO Livery seen it in Chelsmley Wood this morning
With m443 now scrapped that leaves m442 as the sole remaining step entry bus.
All buses are now in the new livery & another ex cityline/uno dart is being readied for service.
Quote from: Steveminor on June 10, 2014, 06:54:12 PM
With m443 now scrapped that leaves m442 as the sole remaining step entry bus.
All buses are now in the new livery & another ex cityline/uno dart is being readied for service.
M443BLC hasn't actually been scrapped yet, might not be in use but was still at the depot Sunday, surprised the tax is still showing as current, would have thought he would have claimed that back
To be honest he never bothers to claim tax back.
From what I can gather it is being stripped of all useful bits before being weighed in.
What is the situation with City Line? Are all the vehicles in their yard (opposite Sunny's yard) now Sunny's?
Sunny Travel have taken all city line buses in lieu of rent owed.
The last 2 buses will be on the 71 soon.
A new operator social travel have now rented space in the sunny travel business park they have 3 buses parked their 2 super darts & a mpd all ex Cardiff bus. I don't know what route they are planning having just obtained their operators licence.
V895dnb the final ex uno cityline dart is now out on service. The sixth one was in too bad a condition to be put on the road & is being canabalised
Quote from: Steveminor on July 07, 2014, 05:25:40 PM
V895dnb the final ex uno cityline dart is now out on service. The sixth one was in too bad a condition to be put on the road & is being canabalised
I'll look out for it tomorrow and try and get a pic :)
Quote from: Rob on May 27, 2014, 07:46:14 PM
W577XRO has had its livery cleaned up and is now exactly the same as V564JBH in the pic but I do agree with you @Matt.N0056 they do look a bit smarter now they've had their livery cleaned up . :)
Also T102KGP is now in UNO Livery :)
here is 102 https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/14624652141/in/photostream/
FYI there are no buses left in the old blue grey livery
Quote from: Steveminor on July 07, 2014, 05:25:40 PM
V895dnb the final ex uno cityline dart is now out on service. The sixth one was in too bad a condition to be put on the road & is being canabalised
here is the above bus https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/14490460609/
How many of sunny travel buses r in the sunny travel livery & not the uno livery also when did the get 565 as I haven't noticed it
All those plaxton darts were repossessed from the defunct city line in lieu a rent owed. It was decided to repaint the whole fleet into the uno livery as it was much much better than the dated & drab blue & grey.
just been on T102KGP. It sounds in bad shape for a Dart of its age Especially when turning corners.
Has M442BLC been withdrawn? As I haven't seen it for a while.
Latest Addition R823HCD is out today just seen it at the Wheatsheaf heading into Solihull
This was with the associated DTS fleet
Quote from: Rob2832 on March 25, 2015, 10:18:21 AM
Latest Addition R823HCD is out today just seen it at the Wheatsheaf heading into Solihull
wonder if this is on loan to sunny as its a Discount travel bus & they are owned by Sunny travel & park in sunny yard with they fix the buses
Quote from: Solo1 on March 25, 2015, 03:34:08 PM
wonder if this is on loan to sunny as its a Discount travel bus & they are owned by Sunny travel & park in sunny yard with they fix the buses
I don't think its on loan as its been repainted into UNO Livery.
Quote from: Rob2832 on March 25, 2015, 03:50:07 PM
I don't think its on loan as its been repainted into UNO Livery.
that means DTS only have 3 buses 2 for 966 1 spare
It is with sunny travel permanent to replace p954 which is now withdrawn.
Sunny dart passed through Old Square 1820 Not in Service
Good to see a driver dropping passengers off in the outside lane of Hobs Moat road!
ditto
was on the 71 around 1815 by the wheatsheaf from solihull and one pulled up in the outside lane and did the same in a line of traffic!
Quote from: suavegarv on April 15, 2015, 09:09:23 PM
ditto
was on the 71 around 1815 by the wheatsheaf from solihull and one pulled up in the outside lane and did the same in a line of traffic!
Sounds like the one I saw!
Here is R823HCD
https://www.flickr.com/photos/114083385@N05/17166770155/
Feels about time for a fleet upgrade. Watch this space
What's he getting, be nice to see some newer darts
Deal now been done for 4 buses arriving next week. So it will be a little while before they appear.
They're not darts
Quote from: Steveminor on May 29, 2015, 06:14:42 AM
Deal now been done for 4 buses arriving next week. So it will be a little while before they appear.
They're not darts
I'm picturing Solo's or full size single deckers.
I'm gonna guess E200s
Quote from: NXDom on May 29, 2015, 08:43:15 AM
I'm gonna guess E200s
I was thinking that myself
@NXDom im guessing Transbus E300's :)
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on May 29, 2015, 08:50:45 AM
I was thinking that myself @NXDom
im guessing Transbus E300's :)
That would depend on wether they are new or not
They're not new 03 plate & we don't like solos
Plaxton Centro, perhaps?
Not on 03 plate
VDL cadets would be nice
Quote from: Matt on May 29, 2015, 11:09:39 PM
Tridents
That would be fun. They'd all be open-top within 24 hours* of entering service, considering their 'wanderings' down the Radleys & Mackadown Lane ;)
* 4 hours, if there was a low bridge on East Meadway.....
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 29, 2015, 06:33:08 PM
Why?
Would you put solos on a route like the 71E? No I didn't think so!
VDL Pulsar 2
like Claribels have
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on May 30, 2015, 03:28:46 PM
VDL Pulsar 2
like Claribels have
03 plate VDL Pulsar 2? No chance.
I reckon small e200s like hansons and arrivas
Or old e300s
Bit glamourous, but a Merc Citaro, perhaps?
Quote from: clayderman on May 30, 2015, 09:43:55 PM
Bit glamourous, but a Merc Citaro, perhaps?
@clayderman and bloody expensive!
Some Volvo B7L/Wright Eclipse Metros perhaps?
Or for a completely obscure guess...B7LA/Wright Eclipse Fusions :)
Quote from: the trainbasher on May 31, 2015, 08:31:48 PM
Some Volvo B7L/Wright Eclipse Metros perhaps?
Or for a completely obscure guess...B7LA/Wright Eclipse Fusions :)
Steve would make a friend in me for life if it were B7L's
Wish it was mercy or b7s but the brothers aren't that rich remember they've brought a company started another & bought a trading estate.
Scania CN94 OmniCity.
Nobody brought this one up yet...plenty ex-Nottingham City Transport stock for sale.
Quote from: justlookingaround on June 01, 2015, 02:47:02 PM
Scania CN94 OmniCity.
Nobody brought this one up yet...plenty ex-Nottingham City Transport stock for sale.
And unlike most of the comedy suggestions they are 03-plate examples as well
Quote from: Cheese on June 01, 2015, 03:40:15 PM
And unlike most of the comedy suggestions they are 03-plate examples as well
What was comedy about the Merc Citaro as there are some 03 plate ex London ones to be found on the market.
Volvo B10L Wright Liberators :)
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on June 02, 2015, 12:48:57 PM
Volvo B10L Wright Liberators :)
B10L switched to B10BLE's in 1997/8 so highly unlikely
Quote from: tank90 on June 02, 2015, 11:42:41 AM
What was comedy about the Merc Citaro as there are some 03 plate ex London ones to be found on the market.
I know there are 03-plate Citaros around on the market, but do you really think a small operator who has previously bought elderly step-entry Darts and then pretty old low floor Darts would buy a Citaro? More likely 03-plate MPDs or Dart SLFs I would guess unless that has already been discounted.
Volvo b7rles
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 02, 2015, 04:22:01 PM
Volvo b7rles
Only about 5 or 6 B7RLEs built on an 03-plate, most of them being new to Minsterley Motors, and they are all (unless recently displaced) at McGill's.
Diamonds cadets?
Volvo B7RLE Centro's
or
Optare Solo SR
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on June 02, 2015, 05:32:16 PM
Volvo B7RLE Centro's
or
Optare Solo SR
Of which neither would be on an 03-plate...
No more daft suggestions filling this thread up with crap! Just wait until they arrive! Winston
1st of the new buses being finalised logos arrived & will be put on on Monday. So not long now
Are you taking the old crap off too? or will they still be passing themselves off as another operators kit, a la R823HCD?
Not too sure what the plan is yet with the older darts
Quote from: Steveminor on July 05, 2015, 12:03:56 PM
Not too sure what the plan is yet with the older darts
What buses are they Steve? Newer darts?
They're not darts.
You'll see soon probably before the end of the week. Branding being applied on Monday
Sneak peak(//)
Sneak peek 2
Fingers crossed parts that were needed arrived today engineers finishing them now. Then the protective layers removed from the branding.
Should be one out tomorrow maybe 2 for Saturday.
The 4th is now sanded down ready for its respray
Just to confirm these are sunny travel buses, not discount travel or social travel. They have been bought for the sole purpose of running on the 71E
Quote from: Steveminor on July 16, 2015, 05:46:55 PM
Fingers crossed parts that were needed arrived today engineers finishing them now. Then the protective layers removed from the branding.
Should be one out tomorrow maybe 2 for Saturday.
The 4th is now sanded down ready for its respray
Ex WG and GAL cadets going dirt cheap at Stafford bus centre?
2 buses now ready for the road, just waiting for drivers to reply if anyone will do type training tonight. If so they'll be out tomorrow.
Anyone wanna see a full picture.
5 responses gets a pic upload
Quote from: Steveminor on July 16, 2015, 07:28:18 PM
2 buses now ready for the road, just waiting for drivers to reply if anyone will do type training tonight. If so they'll be out tomorrow.
Anyone wanna see a full picture.
5 responses gets a pic upload
Go on then, I'm curious to see! :D
Quote from: Steveminor on July 16, 2015, 07:28:18 PM
2 buses now ready for the road, just waiting for drivers to reply if anyone will do type training tonight. If so they'll be out tomorrow.
Anyone wanna see a full picture.
5 responses gets a pic upload
Let's see it!
Quote from: Steveminor on July 16, 2015, 07:28:18 PM
2 buses now ready for the road, just waiting for drivers to reply if anyone will do type training tonight. If so they'll be out tomorrow.
Anyone wanna see a full picture.
5 responses gets a pic upload
Let's See :)
Quote from: Steveminor on July 16, 2015, 07:28:18 PM
2 buses now ready for the road, just waiting for drivers to reply if anyone will do type training tonight. If so they'll be out tomorrow.
Anyone wanna see a full picture.
5 responses gets a pic upload
I'm quite curious too...
As am i.....
Same i'm gonna guess by the pics its a DAF Wright Cadet (Like diamonds 2** fleetnumbered buses)
Here it is :D
Looks quite smart...
Will it be out tomorrow then?
Have those Cadets been converted to single door?
Still dual door. Which at the moment will come in handy during solihull roadworks as the driver can start loading whilst still unloading.
The hope is 2 will be out tomorrow, but only if we can get drivers type trained tonight as none of the drivers has any experience of dafs & they're are far cry from darts lol
Looking Smart can't wait to see them in service :)
Will be good to see them! :) Look very good
Removing the centre door would make them non DDA so I suspect the cost of removal along with the other mods required would be more than the value of the bus. Hence the price SBC were charging.
Quote from: Tony on July 17, 2015, 06:26:57 AM
Removing the centre door would make them non DDA so I suspect the cost of removal along with the other mods required would be more than the value of the bus. Hence the price SBC were charging.
That makes sense now, the seating capacity on them is pretty low with the dual doors
LF52TKJ on 71E
On its way to Solihull
Passed The Radleys 0940
T102KGP failed
At Lea Hall train station
Saw LF52TKJ today in Solihull. It looks very smart and the livery suits the DAF quite well. How many have Sunny Travel got?
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on July 27, 2015, 08:21:37 PM
Saw LF52TKJ today in Solihull. It looks very smart and the livery suits the DAF quite well. How many have Sunny Travel got?
What all over green, wouldn't really call it a livery just a coat of paint.
Quote from: Dom on July 27, 2015, 08:40:45 PM
What all over green, wouldn't really call it a livery just a coat of paint.
Better than travel express though I guess
Quote from: Dom on July 27, 2015, 08:40:45 PM
What all over green, wouldn't really call it a livery just a coat of paint.
I would call it a livery, based on the ye olde duck test..If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 27, 2015, 08:42:21 PM
Better than travel express though I guess
97% of operators are better than Travel Express
Quote from: Dom on July 27, 2015, 08:40:45 PM
What all over green, wouldn't really call it a livery just a coat of paint.
One could say the same about any 1 colour livery, FGW, Diamond, Black Diamond, Midland Red, TfL buses and Western Greyhound (last livery). But it is a livery and identity that isn't uno's so I wouldn't knock it to much.
Quote from: tank90 on July 27, 2015, 09:57:51 PM
One could say the same about any 1 colour livery, FGW, Diamond, Black Diamond, Midland Red, TfL buses and Western Greyhound (last livery). But it is a livery and identity that isn't uno's so I wouldn't knock it to much.
Yes but half of those are recognisable a layer of green paint, IMO isn't really recognisable what with smaller operators not having a livery. Although fair play for having the company names applied.
After some technical difficulties a second daf should be in service tomorrow
@Steveminor Haven't seen other DAF on 71E
only seen LF52TKJ with other darts today
I'm on traffic Warden duties today. So I have no idea on what went out sorry.
Quote from: DiamondDart on July 16, 2015, 05:49:08 PM
Ex WG and GAL cadets going dirt cheap at Stafford bus centre?
I don't know about these DAFs, but the stuff which came from Western Greyhound that Ensign were selling was cheap for good reason. They were absolutely battered to sh*t, probably cosmetically the worst bunch of buses I have ever seen.
Rode LF52TKJ today 1200 from Chelmsey wood
really nice ride 10/10
@Steveminor does secondary doors work on all 4 cadets or is it just front ones?
That has been the main issue with them. None of the doors worked when they arrived & neither did the ramps. That is being fixed & all will work before entering service.
Since the wheel chair bay is by the Centre doors they must work to be dda compliant.
Another Cadet has entered service today LF52TX? (forgot the last letter) seen it heading for Solihull around 11:50am
So is there a connection between Sunny and Social Travel then? Kinda lost track...
Quote from: Dennis on August 19, 2015, 02:12:22 PM
So is there a connection between Sunny and Social Travel then? Kinda lost track...
part of the same group sunny social &discount travel sunny in
One yard social & discount in the other
@Steveminor would be best to ask
Kind of same group but they are separate companies. Sunny travel owned by 2 brothers. One brother also owns discount travel the other owns social travel. Everything is kept separate though & if a bus changes from one to another it is legitimately purchased not just swapped liveries.
Hope that clears things up
And where do you fit in with respect to the 3 companies, Steve?
Quote from: Steveminor on August 19, 2015, 04:07:46 PM
Kind of same group but they are separate companies. Sunny travel owned by 2 brothers. One brother also owns discount travel the other owns social travel. Everything is kept separate though & if a bus changes from one to another it is legitimately purchased not just swapped liveries.
Hope that clears things up
What about the drivers? When Social first started, they seemed to be mainly ex Sunny Drivers? Also one driver, drives for both Sunny & Discount, or are these not kept separate?
Drivers are allowed to work for other companies as long as their drivers hours are not exceeded. So yes there is one driver who drives for discount travel that sometimes chooses to work for social travel on a Sunday. There is a driver who also drives for endeavour & one who does part time for thandi
The main guy I think you are talking about that used to drive for Sunny & now drives social is actually the brother that owns it.
@Steveminor is they only 3 cadets on 71E so far
LF52TKD , LF52TKJ and LF52TJX
Yeah the forth one is on hold whilst we concentrate on those buses currently in service plus we have a few requiring mot's. We won't sacrifice our maintenance schedule specifically to get the last daf on the road.
the forth daf with sunny travel https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/21351060372/in/dateposted-public/
One of their heaps has been running this week with a PG9 offence. Let's see how long it takes to be rectified.*
* No, don't ask me which one 'cos i'm not telling. I'll wait to see if it's picked up during the walk-round check tomorrow - assuming there is one, 'cos it's not been noted & rectified so far.
What is a PG9 offence?
Quote from: fleetline6477 on November 27, 2015, 08:07:21 PM
What is a PG9 offence?
One that DVSA can issue a PG9 for.
A PG9 is a form issued which can be either an immediate prohibition (bus must not be used from the minute DVSA issue it) or a delayed one where DVSA can allow the bus to carry on for a fixed (normally short) period
@Steveminor - Do you or anyone else on this forum know what is happening to LF52 TKC at the moment. As far as i am aware this vehicle has never entered service with Sunny Travel yet. I have seen LF52 TJX / LF52 TKD / LF52 TKJ in service. Will LF52 TKC ever ever enter service service with Sunny Travel. If anyone knows anymore about this vehicle then that would be great. Thank you.
It has a major wiring fault from its time in London & is undergoing extensive work at the moment. With the dda goings on it has had to take a back seat but we are hoping to have her on the road as soon as possible
@Steveminor - Thanks for the info. That is very good to hear. Whilst LF52 TKC was painted in Western Greyhound livery i am not sure if it ever entered service with them. Also can i ask if P954 RUL and T102 KGP are still in service with Sunny Travel and if so will these get converted to DDA compliant. Thank you.
No it had no mot when it was bought & had never run for WG indeed her london blinds were still in place.
T102 is planned to receive dda treatment however p954 has already left some time ago for the scrapyard
@Steveminor - Thanks for the info. That is good to hear that T102 KGP will get converted to DDA compliant but i never realised that P954 RUL had left. When LF52 TKC enters service will it be fitted with a LED destination display screen or will you be fitting your own manual blinds. Also can i ask what is the PVR for the Sunny Travel route 71 service. Thank you.
6 bus pvr we only use electronic blinds
@Steveminor - Thanks for the info. Much appreciated.
@Steveminor - Do you or anyone else on this forum know what the "emerald" branding on the sides of LF52 TJX and LF52 TKD and LF52 TKJ (and maybe also on LF52 TKC as well) means. Is this part of the branding for the route 71 service. Thank you.
YT51DZZ was out yesterday on 71E seen at Marston Green heading for Solihull @ 07:50
@Rob2832 - That is good to hear that YT51 DZZ is in service. Has anyone seen W319 VGX in service yet as well. However can i ask are you sure that it was on the 71E as from looking on traveline it appears that Sunny Travel only operate the 71 but not the 71E.
Ourselves & claribels run the 71 along with nxwm but the full 71 route is solihull to Sutton Coldfield as with any route in the west midlands to highlight to the travelling public that the bus does not go the full length of the route the E suffix is used
@Steveminor - Ok. I see. Thanks for the info. So i wonder why traveline shows it as the route 71 service rather then showing it as the route 71E service.
Quote from: countryliner on January 06, 2016, 03:00:13 AM
@Steveminor - Ok. I see. Thanks for the info. So i wonder why traveline shows it as the route 71 service rather then showing it as the route 71E service.
I thinks as claribells also run on 71 might go a different way from Marston green by sunny & claribells use 71e
Quote from: countryliner on January 06, 2016, 03:00:13 AM
@Steveminor - Ok. I see. Thanks for the info. So i wonder why traveline shows it as the route 71 service rather then showing it as the route 71E service.
Traveline don't show short workings as 'E's'
@Tony @Solo1 - Thanks for the info. It would certainly seem to make more sense and be better if traveline showed it as the 71E instead of showing it as the 71.
Quote from: countryliner on January 06, 2016, 01:29:16 PM
@Tony @Solo1 - Thanks for the info. It would certainly seem to make more sense and be better if traveline showed it as the 71E instead of showing it as the 71.
Does Traveline differentiate between full journies and short workings in any other part of the country?
Why should Birmingham be any different?
In general the 'E' is not shown on the service registration, so traveline have no way of knowing the bus displays it. It is just a leftover from Birmingham City Transport days when every turning point had a suffix letter, which WMPTE abolished at some point and replaced them all with E (for exception to normal service) which is still used to help the travelling public.
@Tony - Yes i see what you mean. However in most other parts of the UK outside of the West Midlands short working journeys have the same number as the full length journeys rather than having an "E" suffix. In most other parts of the country an "E" suffix is used to show a route variation rather than a short working journey. I was only thinking that because Sunny Travel (and Claribels as well) only operate 71E numbered journeys (but do not operate 71 numbered journeys) it would make more sense for traveline to just show it as the 71E instead of the 71.
Quote from: countryliner on January 06, 2016, 01:56:24 PM
@Tony - Yes i see what you mean. However in most other parts of the UK outside of the West Midlands short working journeys have the same number as the full length journeys rather than having an "E" suffix. In most other parts of the country an "E" suffix is used to show a route variation rather than a short working journey. I was only thinking that because Sunny Travel (and Claribels as well) only operate 71E numbered journeys (but do not operate 71 numbered journeys) it would make more sense for traveline to just show it as the 71E instead of the 71.
They cannot as it is not on the service registration as I put in my last reply. Traveline cannot send people out to look what is on the front of the bus. The NXWM 49 service, every alternate bus from Solihull is a 49E, but traveline will show those as 49s for the same reason
@Tony - Ok. Thanks for the info. I suppose that it is easier for traveline to just show it as the 71 instead of the 71E on their website and timetables.
Quote from: countryliner on January 06, 2016, 03:05:03 PM
@Tony - Ok. Thanks for the info. I suppose that it is easier for traveline to just show it as the 71 instead of the 71E on their website and timetables.
I think as
@Tony has explained about 3 times unless the 'E' is on the registration, it will not appear on Traveline. Our Traveline uploader puts onto Traveline what the registration says, end of. Any suffix on the reg, it goes on Traveline. No suffix on the reg doc, no suffix on Traveline. What the operator chooses to show on the front of the bus is up to them.
@Cheese - Yes i see what you mean. I was just saying that it would be better if Traveline showed it as the 71E instead of showing it as the 71. However i fully understand now why Traveline do this.
Sunny had KV03ZFU on the 71E this afternoon in red and cream. It is an MPD.
@Eric Shaw - If you are interested the red and white livery on KV03 ZFU is from its previous bus operator which was Abellio Surrey.
Most (if not all) Sunny Travel Buses now have Fleet Numbers 4 are listed below.
102 - LF52TKJ
104 - W319VGX
105 - KV03ZFU
106 - YT51DZZ
@Rob2832 - Thanks for the info. That is interesting to hear. Do you know if it is just Sunny Travel that have fleet numbers or do Discount Travel and Social Travel have them as well.
Quote from: countryliner on January 08, 2016, 02:52:57 PM
@Rob2832 - Thanks for the info. That is interesting to hear. Do you know if it is just Sunny Travel that have fleet numbers or do Discount Travel and Social Travel have them as well.
Social Travel don't have fleet numbers on the buses.
@2206 - Ok. I see. Thanks for the info.
W319VGX and a UID KV03 dart on 71E today
Quote from: James4368 on January 11, 2016, 11:42:04 AM
W319VGX and a UID KV03 dart on 71E today
It's KV03ZFU. :) Also LF52TJK has been given fleet number 103
@Rob2832 @James4368 - Thanks for the info.
So the Sunny Travel fleet numbers appear to be as follows.
KV03 ZFS - unknown
KV03 ZFU - 105
LF52 TJX - 103
LF52 TKC - unknown
LF52 TKD - unknown
LF52 TKJ - 102
YT51 DZZ - 106
W319 VGX - 104
Does anyone know what the fleet numbers of the buses that say unknown are.
Also
@Rob2832 can i ask if you meant LF52 TJX or LF52 TKJ as Sunny Travel do not have a bus with the LF52 TJK registration number. Thank you.
KX52 TKD seen today at Chelmsley Wood is 101
@broma1k - Thanks for the info. Much appreciated. Also i presume that you probably mean LF52 TKD as Sunny Travel do not have a bus with the KX52 TKD registration number.
LF52 TJX is 102 & LF52 TKJ is 103
@broma1k - Thanks for the info. Much appreciated. Also i presume that you probably mean LF52 TKD as Sunny Travel do not have a bus with the KX52 TKD registration number.
Yes sorry
@broma1k - No worries. That is fine. Thank you very much for confirming.
So the correct list of fleet numbers should be.
KV03 ZFS - unknown
KV03 ZFU - 105
LF52 TJX - 102
LF52 TKC - unknown
LF52 TKD - 101
LF52 TKJ - 103
YT51 DZZ - 106
W319 VGX - 104
So i just need to find out what the fleet numbers of KV03 ZFS and LF52 TKC are.
Zfs is a social travel bus tkc has not yet been assigned a fleet number as it is a long term.project & not sure when she will be on the road.
@Steveminor - Thanks for the info. Much appreciated. I was not entirely sure which of the KV03 *** buses are with which operator.
Can i just confirm which of the KV03 *** buses are with which operator. I believe that it is as follows.
KV03 ZFN - Discount Travel
KV03 ZFR - Social Travel (involved in an accident and therefore not currently in use)
KV03 ZFS - Social Travel
KV03 ZFU - Sunny Travel
KV03 ZFW - Social Travel
Is this list correct or have i gotten any of these buses mixed up. Thank you very much.
KV03ZFU is on 71E today
En-route to chelmsey now
@James4368 - Thanks for the info. So i am presume that KV03 ZFU is probably one of the regular allocated vehicles to the Sunny Travel route 71E service.
Www.sunnytravel.moonfruit.com
new website just created feedback would be appreciated.
Quote from: Steveminor on February 02, 2016, 08:14:31 PM
Www.sunnytravel.moonfruit.com
new website just created feedback would be appreciated.
are Social Travel and DTS getting a website as well?
Looks good. Good to see Sunny Travel now have a website.
Quote from: Steveminor on February 02, 2016, 08:14:31 PM
Www.sunnytravel.moonfruit.com
new website just created feedback would be appreciated.
@Steveminor Good little site there. I couldn't zoom in using my thumb and forefinger on my phone but the next button I clicked was the Gallery tab which gives you the desktop option which I could zoom in on which isn't a bad thing at all. I like the Moonfruit part of the URL too, made me smile.
Quote from: Steveminor on February 02, 2016, 08:14:31 PM
Www.sunnytravel.moonfruit.com
new website just created feedback would be appreciated.
Good to see another small company get a website. I think a PDF direct download would be easier than a link, Hansons site lacks on that aspect.
A good start I think.
Personally, I'd recommend you invest in a domain name, and use something like Wordpress to build and maintain your website, would be very beneficial in the long term, and as well as helping with SEO, also looks more professional.
Perhaps the three companies could 'club together' to make some kind of 'group website', to share information for Discount and Social too?
Quote from: Stu on February 02, 2016, 08:37:04 PM
A good start I think.
Personally, I'd recommend you invest in a domain name, and use something like Wordpress to build and maintain your website, would be very beneficial in the long term, and as well as helping with SEO, also looks more professional.
Perhaps the three companies could 'club together' to make some kind of 'group website', to share information for Discount and Social too?
There's a fair few 'Sunny Travel' option available:
https://www.123-reg.co.uk/order/domain?X-CSRF-Token=28c210d5710da15dc451c45624135e2eba28d82c&domain=sunnytravel
Thanks for your input. It is very much a work in progress just wanted to get the basics down first.
I personally think tge link to the nwm site is better as from there people can navigate to other timetable as well as oursIt would be wrong to have a group website to inckude social travel and dts as they are both seperate companies & not part of a group.
There is no current plan for either dts or social to have a website
Quote from: Steveminor on February 02, 2016, 08:48:34 PM
Thanks for your input. It is very much a work in progress just wanted to get the basics down first.
I personally think tge link to the nwm site is better as from there people can navigate to other timetable as well as oursIt would be wrong to have a group website to inckude social travel and dts as they are both seperate companies & not part of a group.
There is no current plan for either dts or social to have a website
No problem Steve, I think you've got the right idea to begin with. However, one thing I will advise you on, is that one peril of using 'free' sites such as Moonfruit for your website hosting, means you suffer in terms of 'web visibility' as such sites often don't come up favorably in Google search results. And even if you did, people are less likely to click on a link that is part of a 'sub-domain'.
If you ever wanted to explore this further, please feel free to get in touch, as I may be able to assist you if you wanted to set up hosting your websites using Wordpress on your own domain names.
@Steveminor - I have just had a look and it is a really good website. I am very impressed with it. I think that it would be good if Discount Travel and Social Travel had websites as well or if you included them all on one website but i see what you mean about them all being seperate companies. I like the photo section on your website. It would be good if maybe you included an enthusiast section with a fleet list. I think it is good that you have published your fares (many bus operators do not publish them on their websites) as i think that this is really useful. Also do you issue nBus and nNetwork tickets as on your website it says that you do but on the Network West Midlands website it says that you dont. If so maybe you could include the price of a nNetwork ticket as well (your website currently only shows the price of an nBus ticket). But i must say well done as it is certainly a very good website and it contains a lot of really useful information for passengers
Quote from: countryliner on February 02, 2016, 09:11:21 PM
@Steveminor I think it is good that you have published your fares (many bus operators do not publish them on their websites)
Which operators don't have fares on there website?
Quote from: countryliner on February 02, 2016, 09:11:21 PM
@Steveminor - I have just had a look and it is a really good website. I am very impressed with it. I think that it would be good if Discount Travel and Social Travel had websites as well or if you included them all on one website but i see what you mean about them all being seperate companies. I like the photo section on your website. It would be good if maybe you included an enthusiast section with a fleet list. I think it is good that you have published your fares (many bus operators do not publish them on their websites) as i think that this is really useful. Also do you issue nBus and nNetwork tickets as on your website it says that you do but on the Network West Midlands website it says that you dont. If so maybe you could include the price of a nNetwork ticket as well (your website currently only shows the price of an nBus ticket). But i must say well done as it is certainly a very good website and it contains a lot of really useful information for passengers
I don't think many passengers would find a fleetlist usefull.
@2206 - There is a huge amount of bus operators all over the UK (far too many to list) that do not publish their fares on their websites. The operators that do publish their fares usually only publish the prices of day / week / month tickets with very few operators publishing the prices of single / return tickets. But there are very many operators that do not publish the prices of any of their fares at all.
@2206 - I know that passengers would not find a fleet list useful but it would be useful and nice for enthusiasts.
Quote from: countryliner on February 02, 2016, 09:22:21 PM
@2206 - I know that passengers would not find a fleet list useful but it would be useful and nice for enthusiasts.
Many operators that I have seen with fleetlists on their website do not keep them up to date. A website is there to provide information to the travelling public, if an operator wishes to add a fleetlist then they may but it is not compulsory as it is of no assistance to any of their passengers.
Fleetlists from different areas across the country are provided by local groups and individuals. My local area has SOES which has an up to date, informative list for each Yorkshire based company, there's websites like uk-buses and of course then there's
@Tony's fleetlists on the main website which are kept up to date, more so than an operator would keep theirs up to date on a website as they generally have more important things to deal with.
On the note of the website, its looking superb thus far
@Steveminor, as previously mentioned maybe a domain name would help.
Quote from: countryliner on February 02, 2016, 09:20:25 PM
@2206 - There is a huge amount of bus operators all over the UK (far too many to list) that do not publish their fares on their websites. The operators that do publish their fares usually only publish the prices of day / week / month tickets with very few operators publishing the prices of single / return tickets. But there are very many operators that do not publish the prices of any of their fares at all.
Stagecoach, NX, Banga, Hansons, Igo, Banga, First, Go North East, Oxford Bus Company and Transdev all publish there fares.
Quote from: countryliner on February 02, 2016, 09:22:21 PM
@2206 - I know that passengers would not find a fleet list useful but it would be useful and nice for enthusiasts.
Well the main point of a companies website is to provide passengers with usefull infomation. There are other websites were enthusiasts can find a fleetlist like the Main Site.
Thank you all once again for your inputs. I previously ran a very successful website using moonfruit although with my own domain name. Yes having our oen domain name would be much much better & thst will come after proof of concept & full details are online.
Time of course a valuable quantity & with trying to manage 3 fleets is in very little supply but it will take shape over time. We have spoken to centro who have agreed to alter our tickets to print our web adress on the footer of each ticket which will then add to our visibility.
A fleet section is planned some of you mau be glad to hear but that will be of little intrest to general public so will be the last thing I concentrate on. Plus we're still waiting for the fleet to stabalise a little so a fleetlist doesnt need updating too regular.
In fact im going to view another couple of buses tomorrow, so u can appreciate why I dont want a fleet list just yet.
I think the photos from a general public point of view is to indicate who we are & the improvements we have made to our fleet over time.
just looking for some pictures of our OLD step entrance sheds to further indicate just how far we have come from that little cowboy outfit tgat used masking tape on windows lol.
One thing I gorgot to mention in the fares section though.
We give change! !!
@Steveminor - That is intetesting to hear. So do you have to get permission from Centro just to change the details that are printed on your tickets. I am very surprised at that as i thought that all bus operators would be able to program and change the details on their ticket machines themselves. That is interesting that you are looking at more buses tomorrow. Are you looking to buy any additional vehicles for Discount / Social / Sunny or to replace any of the fleet. I agree that Moonfruit can be a good website provider to use as we used this at two of the previous operators that i worked for (Coastal and Palaeobus - both have ceased trading) and it seems to work well. As a suggestion maybe you could ask Network West Midlands and Traveline to put a link to your website on their bus operators details pages (if you have not done so already). Yes putting information that you give change on your buses on your website would certainly be useful. But i must say that Sunny Travel have definetly come very far and are constantly improving.
@2206 - Yes i fully agree with your point as websites are mainly to provide information for ordinary passengers. But if a bus operator is able to put a fleet list on their website then that is certainly a nice thing to do.
@T840MAK - Personally i think that in general bus operators are more likely to keep their websites up to date than other people are as bus operators know more about their fleet then other people do. With the companies that i work for Big Lemon and Compass Bus both have very up to date fleet lists (we used to have them at Buses Excetera and Sussex Bus as well but the management did not really have time to maintain these). But it can be hard work for indiviuals (who do not work for a bus operator) to keep fleet lists up to date. I am sure that
@Tony probably finds it hard to keep up to date fleet lists for all of the bus operators that he covers.
Quote from: countryliner on February 02, 2016, 09:20:25 PM
@2206 - There is a huge amount of bus operators all over the UK (far too many to list) that do not publish their fares on their websites. The operators that do publish their fares usually only publish the prices of day / week / month tickets with very few operators publishing the prices of single / return tickets. But there are very many operators that do not publish the prices of any of their fares at all.
@countryliner http://hinckleybus.co.uk/tickets/
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/tickets/all-tickets
http://www.traveldecourcey.com/timetable_search/fares_tickets.aspx
http://www.centralbuses.com/fares-tickets/
http://www.diamondbuses.com/tickets.html
http://www.midlandclassic.com/fares-and-tickets/
http://www.igobuses.com/times/41C.html (Under the timetable)
http://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/tickets-prices/
A FEW! I'm not so sure that you are correct...
@Adam 404 - Here are some examples of bus operators that do not display any information or anything about their bus fares on their websites.
www.bangabuses.co.uk
www.carlonelimited.co.uk
www.connect-buses.co.uk
www.emsworthanddistrict.co.uk
www.kentcoachtours.co.uk
www.ramblercoaches.co.uk
www.renowngroup.co.uk
www.reptonscoaches.com
www.seafordanddistrict.co.uk
www.townlinkbuses.com
www.wheelerstravel.co.uk
www.whitebus.co.uk
I am not saying that it makes them a bad operator because they do not display their fares on their websites as many of the operators that i have listed are very good. But you can see that there are quite a few bus operators that do not display any information about their fares. Also many of the operators that do publish their fares only publish day / week / month ticket prices but not single / return ticket prices. There are only a very few operators that publish their faretables. Stagecoach have recently updated their website so that you can find out the prices of single / return tickets but for example Arriva do not publish their single / return ticket prices anywhere on their website.
Latest acquisition sn51sxu ex herberts travel mpd now heading back to depot
Quote from: countryliner on February 04, 2016, 05:28:29 AM
@Adam 404 - Here are some examples of bus operators that do not display any information or anything about their bus fares on their websites.
www.bangabuses.co.uk
@countryliner Thanks for that information. Although I would suggest you look at the Banga website as they do display fares.
@Steveminor - That is good to hear. Is SN51 SXU a replacement for anything or is it just an additional vehicle.
@WN - Yes. Thank you. I did not realise that the fares were on the timetables page.
Sunnys Latest addition out on 71E today
Quote from: RS on February 19, 2016, 07:47:50 PM
Sunnys Latest addition out on 71E today
Also is numbered 107 :)
SN51SXU is out on 71E today
also YT51DZZ
LF52TKC appeared on the 71E today and has got fleet number 104 first time I've seen this one out.
LF52TKC is on 71E today
Currently on break at Solihull Train Station
KV03ZFU is now in green livery.
Is sunny latest bus the sn51sxu &rhe other kv one now in fleet livery
Quote from: Solo1 on April 20, 2016, 02:19:24 AM
Is sunny latest bus the sn51sxu &rhe other kv one now in fleet livery
I saw a white dart with SN51 on the plate today being filled up at a fuel station on Dudley Road.
Sunny travel haven't failed to send any buses out today.
Over the past few months I have observed the Sunny fleet as follows;
101 LF 52 TKD.
102 LF 52 TJX.
103 LF 52 TKJ.
104 LF 52 TKC.
105 KV 03 ZFU.
106 YT 51 DZZ.
107 W 319 VGX.
I haven't seen 102 for sometime but the others work regularly. They appear to need 5 vehicles for the service.
Quote from: Eric Shaw on January 27, 2017, 05:08:03 PM
Over the past few months I have observed the Sunny fleet as follows;
101 LF 52 TKD.
102 LF 52 TJX.
103 LF 52 TKJ.
104 LF 52 TKC.
105 KV 03 ZFU.
106 YT 51 DZZ.
107 W 319 VGX.
I haven't seen 102 for sometime but the others work regularly. They appear to need 5 vehicles for the service.
Think 102 might be spares, I don't think its ever ran for sunny and from what I've heard this didn't see much service with western greyhound
Quote from: Lukeee on January 28, 2017, 09:26:04 PM
Think 102 might be spares, I don't think its ever ran for sunny and from what I've heard this didn't see much service with western greyhound
My last pic of it in service with Sunny was taken on 7/10/15.
Quote from: dave47549 (no longer NEL111P) on January 29, 2017, 10:38:46 AM
My last pic of it in service with Sunny was taken on 7/10/15.
I stand corrected
The sunnytravel website no longer there
Just saw one of the sunny travel.buses on tow on the rd leading towards st chads
PD1082181/11 Registered
KAMALJIT KAUR
Route: Chemsley Wood to Solihull
Service number: 71E
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 11 Jun 2017
has sunny travel got a double decker because i saw one in the exactly same green livery as sunny travel but just with out the logo on the sheldon heath road
Quote from: Jordan on November 13, 2017, 08:00:39 PM
has sunny travel got a double decker because i saw one in the exactly same green livery as sunny travel but just with out the logo on the sheldon heath road
Do you know what vehicle type it was? Thanks.
it was alexander dennis trident
Quote from: Jordan on November 13, 2017, 08:00:39 PM
has sunny travel got a double decker because i saw one in the exactly same green livery as sunny travel but just with out the logo on the sheldon heath road
it could be a school bus not sure of operator
I haven't seen Sunny 107 in use since Solihull went euro3 at the end of November.
It doesn't meet the emission regulations to go into solihull
http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&command=direct&net=cen&line=4071E&sup=%20&itdLPxx_direction=H&project=y11&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_sessionID=CEN_EFA03_50647066&lineVer=5&itdLPxx_spTr=5&itdLPxx_operatorCodeForTTB=SUT
New timetable from March 4th and a frequency reduction as well.
Looks like a reduction in PVR from 4 to 3 as well.
Discount NA52AXN was on the 71E this afternoon.
NA52AXN is now a regular on the 71E. It carries the fleet number 08 but I couldn't see any sign of the legal ownership. They are still hogging the stops in Solihull.
Quote from: Eric Shaw on February 03, 2018, 07:43:17 PM
They are still hogging the stops in Solihull.
They are always hogging the Solihull Stop.
MW, It was not me taking photos in Solihull yesterday. I made my observations on Sunny waiting for the 73 to go back home. A Sunny bus arrived at the stop 12 minutes before the booked time and was still there when my 73 arrived. Previous Sunny's had left early.
Sunny operating 103, 105 and Discount 08 on the 3 vehicle 71E today. RKT driver appeared to be driving the Discount vehicle. The timetable at the Wheatsheaf was showing RKT operating only in the evenings but the timetable in Solihull and that on Network WM website contradict this. All very mysterious.
Quote from: Eric Shaw on March 08, 2018, 07:27:18 PM
The timetable at the Wheatsheaf was showing RKT operating only in the evenings but the timetable in Solihull and that on Network WM website contradict this. All very mysterious.
Sounds like the unfortunate cocktail of Cowboy's and a Combined Authority that couldn't organise excessive consumption of alcoholic beverages in a brewery...
Ignore my last post on Sunny. I misread the timetables at the Wheatsheaf because they use a different format for the them on each side of the road. Also Social 08 may have been on loan to RKT nut Sunny.
Quote from: 2206 on January 18, 2018, 06:47:29 PM
http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&command=direct&net=cen&line=4071E&sup=%20&itdLPxx_direction=H&project=y11&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_sessionID=CEN_EFA03_50647066&lineVer=5&itdLPxx_spTr=5&itdLPxx_operatorCodeForTTB=SUT
New timetable from March 4th and a frequency reduction as well.
Looks like a reduction in PVR from 4 to 3 as well.
Appears to be reduced to just 1 vehicle from the end of April!
http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&command=direct&net=cen&line=4071E&sup=%20&itdLPxx_direction=H&project=y11&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_sessionID=CEN_EFA02_43499505&lineVer=6&itdLPxx_spTr=6&itdLPxx_operatorCodeForTTB=SUT
Wonder if this the beginning of the end of Sunny Travel, unless there gonna plan another route
Quote from: Lukeee on April 14, 2018, 01:01:27 PM
Wonder if this the beginning of the end of Sunny Travel, unless there gonna plan another route
At least it means the Solihull town Stop won't constantly be blocked.
Quote from: Jack on April 14, 2018, 06:43:07 PM
At least it means the Solihull town Stop won't constantly be blocked.
Currently -
Sunny have 3 buses on the and RK Travel have 1 on the Chelmsley Wood to Solihull corridor.
From the end of April -
DTS will have 1 bus on the, RK Travel will have 2 and Sunny will have 1.
So together they'll have 4 buses on there, the same as currently.
Wonder which bus will join the rk travel fleet
Quote from: 2206 on April 14, 2018, 06:51:32 PM
Currently -
Sunny have 3 buses on the and RK Travel have 1 on the Chelmsley Wood to Solihull corridor.
From the end of April -
DTS will have 1 bus on the, RK Travel will have 2 and Sunny will have 1.
So together they'll have 4 buses on there, the same as currently.
But DTS and RK don't hog the Stop like Sunny do!
Quote from: Adam 404 on April 13, 2018, 04:09:15 PM
Appears to be reduced to just 1 vehicle from the end of April!
http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&command=direct&net=cen&line=4071E&sup=%20&itdLPxx_direction=H&project=y11&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_sessionID=CEN_EFA02_43499505&lineVer=6&itdLPxx_spTr=6&itdLPxx_operatorCodeForTTB=SUT
Saturday service has also been dropped. Which isn't a surprise considering all these other related companies don't do Saturdays either.
What's the point in reducing service just for said related companies to fill in the gap?
As for vehicles being withdrawn I wouldn't be surprised if it was the dual doored buses getting the chop, they are after all non-standard to the rest of the overall fleet picture.
that is the fleet now 3 dafs and 1 dart now
occasionaly borrowing NA52AXN from Discount Travel
Sunny have been using 103 and 105 on the 71E recently , but 104 reappeared yesterday and was very clean and smart inside.
yes its agood bus sadly when the new timetable starts they will only need 1 bus that will be 105 KV03ZFU with the white bus as spare
Although the timetables at the bus stops are showing new timetables from 22nd April Sunny appear to be running to the previous timetable with 103 and 105 in service today. The new timetable shows only one Sunny bus needed as has already been reported on this site.
i thought the new service starts 30th discount Travel start on 30th april aswell
Are sunny travel, RKT and DTS all the same company!? Is the reason they register under different names to fiddle taxes?
The Sunny Group are running the following into Solihull this week:
KV03ZFU, KV03ZFS, NA52AXN, NA52AWZ and KXZ4299. Have they been modified to euro4?
Does anybody know the original reg of KXZ?
I noticed today there display on the 71E still wrongly shows "via Redleys".
Its been like that for a while now.
Quote from: 2206 on September 20, 2018, 06:44:03 PM
I noticed today there display on the 71E still wrongly shows "via Redleys".
Its been like that for a while now.
The Dart that operates the Sunny Travel timetabled trips - KV03ZFU, was displaying "
72 Solihull via Redleys" today,
rather than the registered 71E route number that is shown on the timetables and flags.
It most certainly also operated the Sunny Travel 15:51 trip from Solihull to Chelmsley Wood.
Presumably the reason they've kept this old route number (whilst DTS and RK use the 72 route number) is because like DTS and the 966 they don't want to pay for the flags to be changed.
Yeah I saw that as well today and yesterday
Sunny Group had NA52AXN,KV03ZFS and KXZ4299 on the72 yesterday and NA52AXN and KV03ZFS this morning. KZX4299 had the fleet number 10 on the front. They seem to be running short of buses..
Quote from: Eric Shaw on October 09, 2018, 08:41:38 PM
Sunny Group had NA52AXN,KV03ZFS and KXZ4299 on the72 yesterday and NA52AXN and KV03ZFS this morning. KZX4299 had the fleet number 10 on the front. They seem to be running short of buses..
I did notice that myself last week, there unusually seemed to be no sign of the Sunny Travel 71E, or KV03ZFU (Sunny Travels bus) on Thursday and Friday. Does anyone know if there is any reason for Sunny Travels absence on the route?
It seems to be that the 71E operated by Sunny Travel has gone missing over the last few days.
It never turned up while I was in Solihull (15:51 from Solihull), last week, 4731 turned up and the next bus behind that seemed to be the next departure from Solihull (RK Travel 72). And there was no sign of it heading back in the other direction while I was on the bus to the Wheatsheaf either.
Same 3 vehicles on today. It is sometimes difficult to work out the ownership of the vehicles as they do not keep to the timetables and probably loan to one another. ZFS does not seem to have notice of ownership.
Quote from: Eric Shaw on October 10, 2018, 08:42:26 PM
Same 3 vehicles on today. It is sometimes difficult to work out the ownership of the vehicles as they do not keep to the timetables and probably loan to one another. ZFS does not seem to have notice of ownership.
They don't ever loan them between operators, from what i've seen.
NA52AXN is opeating for RK and has there legals on it, it operated the 08:10 from the Wheatsheaf, very overcrowded (It was the day before that as well) - it could have done with a long single decker (especially if that trip is that busy every day) as there were people who looked like they wanted to get on but couldn't as there was physically no more room, but on time the other day - looking back at the timetables that would have been its first trip of the day.
I noticed a difference in the fares the other day, not sure if its the route or the operator, that is the reason for the difference in fares, but the other day I noticed:
Social Travel (SK51AYC) on the 11C have 50p tickets with NX and Concessionary passes and cheaper fares off peak.
RK ravel which I went on 20 minutes later (NA52AXN) have a flat £1.50 fare.
They certainly seem to be a bit different on the 11 then, they always seem to turn up roughly on time, or just a few minutes late, unless theres a big delay somewhere and when they are extremly late i've seen them running out of service to enter service back where they are timetabled to be on the route.
I've seen and been on the 07:39 Social Travel 11C from Ward End regularly very regularly over the last 3 years and I can only recall it being late once and that was when the Aston Expressway was shut in May 2017 (it turned up just after 08:00, just over 20 minutes late). There are fair few who seemingly prefer to use it over the NX Bus and will seemingly wait for it and pay 50p everyday as well (its usually full to the seating capacity by the time it gets to the swan).
After a gap of over a week, since at least last Wednesday, Sunny Travel and KV03ZFU were back on the 71E today.
Though I didn't get a proper look and only saw the display briefly as I was on the X2, it seemed to be yet agian displaying 72 intead of there registered route number - 71E.
Do they still use the 3 dafs on the 72?
Is the W reg dart still in operation?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 14, 2018, 06:31:19 PM
Do they still use the 3 dafs on the 72?
Is the W reg dart still in operation?
No, the DAFs and the the W reg are no longer in use.
Allocations tend to be as follows as present across Sunny/Social/DTS/RK:
KV03ZFU - 71E.
KV03ZFS - 72.
NA52AXN - 72.
KXZ4299 - 72.
SK51AYC - 11C.
YT51DZZ - 11C.
SJ53AXG - 11C.
KV03ZFW - 11A.
KV03ZFN - 11A.
* The vehicles on the 11 operate in that order as well.
Additionally DTS are also timetabled to operate one Monday only 966 round trip, but I don't know what they use on that.
NA52AWZ was a regular on the72 until KV03ZFS appeared. SN51SXU may have been the 966 a couple of weeks ago.
I have passed KV03ZFU at least 8 times in December and each time it has been displaying 72 not 71E.
KV03ZFU was parked up on the Coventry Rd earlier at the Lyndon Rd (X1/X2/60 City Centre Bound stop) seemingly broken down for quite a long time this afternoon.
Looking abandoned.
And is still there now!
Sunny Travel in for p.i on 12th March.
Result of P.I operator failed to attend only the transport manager. Operator to attend in 2 weeks time until then the licence is suspended.
Quote from: Steveminor on March 12, 2019, 06:42:13 PM
Result of P.I operator failed to attend only the transport manager. Operator to attend in 2 weeks time until then the licence is suspended.
Don't you run sunny travel?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 12, 2019, 06:58:14 PM
Don't you run sunny travel?
No. He works for Claribels.
Sunny Travel also just run the 1 bus now. The others seem to run from the RK/DTS licence so just the 1 bus that won't run presumably.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 12, 2019, 06:58:14 PM
Don't you run sunny travel?
So you think someone who tells us he works at Claribels runs Sunny Travel?
Quote from: Tony on March 12, 2019, 07:00:47 PM
So you think someone who tells us he works at Claribels runs Sunny Travel?
I thought he had a hand in a load of these small operators
I previously worked for them but now run Claribels bus services.
just seen a tweet from network west midlands saying sunny travel 71e has been withdrawn and sunny travel no longer opersting any services. guessing theyve had there licence revoked
From the latest Notices and Proceedings... (2389)
Public Inquiry (78759) held at The Public Inquiry Room (Birmingham), B15 1PL, 38 George Road, Edgbaston, Birmingham, on 12 March 2019 commenced at 10:00 (Previous Publication:(2383))
PD1082181 SN
KAMALJIT KAUR
KAMALJIT KAUR
82 ROLFE STREET, SMETHWICK, B66 2AX S17 - Licence revoked with immediate effect
only a matter of time before Discount Travel and RK Travel go the same way