Is there any truth in arriva Midlands selling a depot apart
from Burton a former midland red one I have been told
Quote from: Solo1 on June 25, 2016, 06:25:20 AM
Is there any truth in arriva Midlands selling a depot apart
from Burton a former midland red one I have been told
Stafford and Wednesfield? September?
Not Cannock then?Selling Stafford wouldn't be like losing an operation if routes etc went to Cannock whereas Wednesfield would
Quote from: Cheese on June 25, 2016, 08:27:47 AM
Stafford and Wednesfield? September?
Stafford is just a token op these days, the only operator I would have thought that would be interested in Stafford would be D&G Bus.
Wednesfield would depend what routes would be included in the deal, I very much doubt the Centro tenders are worth much, probably the opposite for the ones secured in 2012 on a 5 year basis
Could be Cannock though. Given the moving out of buses specifically purchased for upgrade etc and replacement with old vehicles would suggest it's not making much money
Quote from: Bob on June 25, 2016, 10:25:28 AM
Could be Cannock though. Given the moving out of buses specifically purchased for upgrade etc and replacement with old vehicles would suggest it's not making much money
They would probably get more for the Stafford ops if it came as a package complete with Cannock.
Well yea and Stafford technically don't exist no more
Quote from: Solo1 on June 25, 2016, 06:25:20 AM
Is there any truth in arriva Midlands selling a depot apart
from Burton a former midland red one I have been told
No Arriva Midlands site is being sold apart from the 1 the company is in talks about to close the deal.
That's not what I hear from a very reliable source. However since this is commercially sensitive information I will not reveal it.
Quote from: Steveminor on June 25, 2016, 08:50:14 PM
That's not what I hear from a very reliable source. However since this is commercially sensitive information I will not reveal it.
I'd agree with BN, he's probably one of the most credible Arriva sources.
Wouldn't it be wise to wait for official confirmation from Arriva as to what they intend to do? Speculation is just daft.
BN you said site, by site do you mean site and operation?
is wednesfield site owned or leased/rented?
Tamworth maybe?
Quote from: LG on June 28, 2016, 08:28:02 PM
Tamworth maybe?
Why would Arriva want to dispose of one of their better performing depots?
Exactly if anything it'd be a crap performing one like Cannock if it was gonna be one
Quote from: Winston on June 28, 2016, 10:42:30 PM
Why would Arriva want to dispose of one of their better performing depots?
That may be the very attraction of selling it. They appear to be desperate to raise capital and they could probably get much better money for this than anywhere else. Who knows.
Would they want to keep poorly performing garages instead though?
Quote from: Bob on June 29, 2016, 06:10:16 AM
Exactly if anything it'd be a crap performing one like Cannock if it was gonna be one
Not trying to start an argument
@Bob but on the off chance it's Cannock you got to think who would buy it, what implications would happen to the routes around Cannock and if the current fleet would be part of the deal?
Say for example Stagecoach buy it would they cascade darts (your favourite vehicle of complaint) or would they invest in newer (E200s mk1s, Optare solos or even brand new (probably next year's order perhaps)
Just be grateful that you HAVE a bus service rather than nothing at all.
Stagecoach wouldn't want it. And even if nx wanted some routes I'd imagine they'd just run ones that enter Walsall and Wolves etc from the respective garages
Quote from: andy41 on June 29, 2016, 09:12:38 PM
That may be the very attraction of selling it. They appear to be desperate to raise capital and they could probably get much better money for this than anywhere else. Who knows.
Although I can see you're point with their parent companies fund raising needs to reduce debt, I doubt an op the size of Tamworth would raise sizeable funds to make it a consideration. It would also take a large chunk of profit from the rest of Arriva Midlands making the likes of Wednesfield, Stafford & Cannock even more vunerable
Quote from: Winston on June 29, 2016, 09:44:57 PM
Although I can see you're point with their parent companies fund raising needs to reduce debt, I doubt an op the size of Tamworth would raise sizeable funds to make it a consideration. It would also take a large chunk of profit from the rest of Arriva Midlands making the likes of Wednesfield, Stafford & Cannock even more vunerable
Is there any commercial routea from Wednesfield. I would be surprised if the routes are absorbed by NX, Igo and Diamond. Maybe extend the X51 to cover the 1&2 (is these routes well used or would a 30 mins frequency on an extended X51 cope)
An hourly double decked frequency of the X51 would cope with maybe a half hourly peak. An hourly service to Wolves would likely cope as well. An hourly service on most Cannock routes would suffice to be fair and possibly half hourly to Pye Green and Hednesford
You'd need at least 2 routes for Cannock to Walsall.
Why the 2 is never very busy
I think he means a bus between cannock and Walsall is needed to serve Landywood/Cheslyn Hay