Are starting their 15 service tomorrow. They state on their Facebook that they will be providing a low floor easy access bus for the service. Any ideas what this is? I can't find any information or photos anywhere.
Quote from: Matt on January 04, 2015, 02:37:01 PM
Are starting their 15 service tomorrow. They state on their Facebook that they will be providing a low floor easy access bus for the service. Any ideas what this is? I can't find any information or photos anywhere.
Matt I did hear that they where hoping to buy some from whittles, but some one else on here said they where not getting any from whittles but they did not say where they where coming from .
I would imagine something from Mistral or Dawson so that they can chuck it in if running a bus service isn't what they expected.
They'd only need 1 bus so I would reckon most likely to be leased
Quote from: DiamondDart on January 04, 2015, 03:32:51 PM
They'd only need 1 bus so I would reckon most likely to be leased
they already have some a bus service and school contracts so will that change with the dda change that came in on the first as the coaches might not be suitable
Quote from: Ced on January 04, 2015, 03:48:31 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on January 04, 2015, 03:32:51 PM
They'd only need 1 bus so I would reckon most likely to be leased
they already have some bus services and school services/contracts so with the change in the dda that came in on the first the coaches my not be suitable
No existing 'coaches' are affected by the new rules until 2020
He has just purchased a former Stagecoach bendi-coach, N561 SJF, but I suspect that may be a bit big!
Quote from: Matt on January 04, 2015, 07:11:33 PM
From their Facebook
(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/10828013_370529146453334_7043240844556242053_o.jpg)
Ex Padarn Bus of Llanberis, Gwynedd
Almost home, New to Astons at Worcester
Timetable looks an improvement over the current 15 service! I still think it's a shame that the 16 couldn't be incorporated into it...
Anyone seen how loadings/operation has been so far on the revised 15? Inconvenience to passengers as through journeys to Stourport are no longer available? Better reliability/timetable, improved frequency and reliability?
Quote from: DiamondDart on January 07, 2015, 02:12:35 PM
Anyone seen how loadings/operation has been so far on the revised 15?
Loadings seemed healthy when I saw it Monday and Tuesday. Mainly grey hair though.
Quote from: DiamondDart on January 07, 2015, 02:12:35 PM
Inconvenience to passengers as through journeys to Stourport are no longer available?
To/From where? The service runs Kidderminster - Stourport via Wilden.
Quote from: DiamondDart on January 07, 2015, 02:12:35 PM
Better reliability/timetable, improved frequency and reliability?
Hard to say in the first week, have not been on it myself yet. I have never experienced the 15 to be unreliable. Always very punctual the many times I used it when operated by Whittle. I observed it running some 20 minutes late through Stourport around midday on Tuesday, with two Coniston drivers including one ex Diamond route learning, although there had been a fatal RTC very near to the route so that may explain it.
Quote from: DiamondDart on January 07, 2015, 02:12:35 PM
Anyone seen how loadings/operation has been so far on the revised 15? Inconvenience to passengers as through journeys to Stourport are no longer available? Better reliability/timetable, improved frequency and reliability?
You can still go from Kidderminster to stourport
Quote from: Ced on January 08, 2015, 10:09:05 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on January 07, 2015, 02:12:35 PM
Anyone seen how loadings/operation has been so far on the revised 15? Inconvenience to passengers as through journeys to Stourport are no longer available? Better reliability/timetable, improved frequency and reliability?
You can still go from Kidderminster to stourport
I meant in terms of people having to change in Kidderminster as through journeys to Stourport from Halesowen are no longer available.
Quote from: DiamondDart on January 09, 2015, 08:29:07 PM
Quote from: Ced on January 08, 2015, 10:09:05 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on January 07, 2015, 02:12:35 PM
Anyone seen how loadings/operation has been so far on the revised 15? Inconvenience to passengers as through journeys to Stourport are no longer available? Better reliability/timetable, improved frequency and reliability?
You can still go from Kidderminster to stourport
I meant in terms of people having to change in Kidderminster as through journeys to Stourport from Halesowen are no longer available.
enough diamond 3 to stourport and the Coniston 15 is rerouted so it covers some of the parts of the area where the 192 used to run in stourport
Quote from: DiamondDart on January 09, 2015, 08:29:07 PM
Quote from: Ced on January 08, 2015, 10:09:05 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on January 07, 2015, 02:12:35 PM
Anyone seen how loadings/operation has been so far on the revised 15? Inconvenience to passengers as through journeys to Stourport are no longer available? Better reliability/timetable, improved frequency and reliability?
You can still go from Kidderminster to stourport
I meant in terms of people having to change in Kidderminster as through journeys to Stourport from Halesowen are no longer available.
Apart from a few concessionary pass holders I'm not sure there were many who travelled the whole route. It was always two sections the old 11 Stourport - Kidderminster and 192 Kidderminster to Halesowen.
New to Conistons Coaches 5281RU (V771GCS) Plaxton Beaver 2 recently aquired from County Coaches of Brentwood, Essex which as now closed. More info about the beaver 2's history can be found on the photos. :)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16124686490/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16124686490/)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16126214407/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16126214407/)
Quote from: LM 172 on January 20, 2015, 09:31:42 PM
New to Conistons Coaches 5281RU (S194HOK) Plaxton Beaver 2 recently aquired from County Coaches of Brentwood, Essex which as now closed. More info about the beaver 2's history can be found on the photos. :)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16124686490/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16124686490/)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16126214407/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16126214407/)
Low floor quality in action ::)
Quote from: Matt on January 21, 2015, 07:47:58 AM
Quote from: DiamondDart on January 21, 2015, 01:00:06 AM
Quote from: LM 172 on January 20, 2015, 09:31:42 PM
New to Conistons Coaches 5281RU (S194HOK) Plaxton Beaver 2 recently aquired from County Coaches of Brentwood, Essex which as now closed. More info about the beaver 2's history can be found on the photos. :)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16124686490/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16124686490/)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16126214407/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16126214407/)
Low floor quality in action ::)
I'd have had that as the main bus and the Dart spare, far better vehicle than any naff Dart
New to Thandi! (under the company name of Rest & Ride)
Quote from: Matt on January 21, 2015, 07:47:58 AM
Quote from: DiamondDart on January 21, 2015, 01:00:06 AM
Quote from: LM 172 on January 20, 2015, 09:31:42 PM
New to Conistons Coaches 5281RU (S194HOK) Plaxton Beaver 2 recently aquired from County Coaches of Brentwood, Essex which as now closed. More info about the beaver 2's history can be found on the photos. :)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16124686490/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16124686490/)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16126214407/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16126214407/)
Low floor quality in action ::)
I'd have had that as the main bus and the Dart spare, far better vehicle than any naff Dart
It's not DDA compliant as the law stipulated from 1/1/15... Plus it's 17 years old, not in their livery plus the fleetname of another operator which has collapsed...
Is the comment by LM172 consistent with service delivery quality seen by other people, eg late running/vehicles stopping to refuel etc?!
Quote from: Matt on January 21, 2015, 07:28:09 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on January 21, 2015, 06:38:12 PM
Quote from: Matt on January 21, 2015, 07:47:58 AM
Quote from: DiamondDart on January 21, 2015, 01:00:06 AM
Quote from: LM 172 on January 20, 2015, 09:31:42 PM
New to Conistons Coaches 5281RU (S194HOK) Plaxton Beaver 2 recently aquired from County Coaches of Brentwood, Essex which as now closed. More info about the beaver 2's history can be found on the photos. :)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16124686490/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16124686490/)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16126214407/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16126214407/)
Low floor quality in action ::)
I'd have had that as the main bus and the Dart spare, far better vehicle than any naff Dart
It's not DDA compliant as the law stipulated from 1/1/15... Plus it's 17 years old, not in their livery plus the fleetname of another operator which has collapsed...
Is the comment by LM172 consistent with service delivery quality seen by other people, eg late running/vehicles stopping to refuel etc?!
I'm not sure what you're going on about this time but Coniston are a popular well-known and reputable coach operator. They have more sense than to get into the habit of untertaking public service work. This vehicle could double up as a coach if needed too, I can't see the point of having more than one horrid Dart! Let alone a whole fleet of them, imagine how awful that would be!
Well, I'll simplify for you. First, "they have more sense than to get into the habit of un(d)ertaking public service work." They ARE doing public service work.
Second, as you know, after 1/1/15, DDA deadlines came into force that prohibit use of step entrance vehicles of this size on local registered bus service work. I'm wondering why appear to be using a vehicle that doesn't comply.
Thirdly, LM 172 made reference to late running due to a fuel stop. I then asked whether such things were happening regularly or if this was a one off.
Hope that clears up any confusion!
It's only under 7.5t steppys that had to go by 1.1.15
Single decks over 7.5t is 31.12.15 Iirc
Quote from: the trainbasher on January 21, 2015, 07:38:21 PM
It's only under 7.5t steppys that had to go by 1.1.15
Single decks over 7.5t is 31.12.15 Iirc
Which also includes some darts
Quote from: the trainbasher on January 21, 2015, 07:38:21 PM
It's only under 7.5t steppys that had to go by 1.1.15
Single decks over 7.5t is 31.12.15 Iirc
And double decks 2017, yes I know.
But varios seem to mostly fall below 7.5 tonnes.
You're right that b10b's etc have until next year and Olympians until the year after.
Can not understand quite what is going on here , Coniston have got one of the best turned out coach fleets in the Kidderminster area , and before
they took on running the 15 they only had one bus route which is only two runs a day . and one of there existing small coaches is more than
suitable for the few passangers it carrys a day and the and the coaches are suitable for there school contracts. they only been running 15
for a couple of weeks
Quote from: Matt on January 21, 2015, 10:39:22 AM
Quote from: Tony on January 21, 2015, 09:36:35 AM
Quote from: Matt on January 21, 2015, 07:47:58 AM
Quote from: DiamondDart on January 21, 2015, 01:00:06 AM
Quote from: LM 172 on January 20, 2015, 09:31:42 PM
New to Conistons Coaches 5281RU (S194HOK) Plaxton Beaver 2 recently aquired from County Coaches of Brentwood, Essex which as now closed. More info about the beaver 2's history can be found on the photos. :)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16124686490/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16124686490/)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16126214407/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16126214407/)
Low floor quality in action ::)
I'd have had that as the main bus and the Dart spare, far better vehicle than any naff Dart
New to Thandi! (under the company name of Rest & Ride)
New and Thandi, not two words you hear in the same sentence very often!
As featured on page 28 of this month's Buses magazine
Seen Plaxton Beaver 2 5281RU (V771GCS) at Baxter College in Kidderminster today.
Quote from: LM 172 on January 20, 2015, 09:31:42 PM
New to Conistons Coaches 5281RU (S194HOK) Plaxton Beaver 2 recently aquired from County Coaches of Brentwood, Essex which as now closed. More info about the beaver 2's history can be found on the photos. :)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16124686490/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16124686490/)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16126214407/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16126214407/)
Just checked this out. This is not S194 HOK as it states on that flikr page. It was new as V771 GCS
Quote from: Tony on February 01, 2015, 03:49:28 PM
Quote from: LM 172 on January 20, 2015, 09:31:42 PM
New to Conistons Coaches 5281RU (S194HOK) Plaxton Beaver 2 recently aquired from County Coaches of Brentwood, Essex which as now closed. More info about the beaver 2's history can be found on the photos. :)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16124686490/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16124686490/)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16126214407/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16126214407/)
Just checked this out. This is not S194 HOK as it states on that flikr page. It was new as V771 GCS
It was only a guess that it was originally S194HOK which was wrong. I had next to nothing to go on at the time and the other Plaxton Beaver 2 that County Coaches of Brentwood had was 9803RU (S195HOK) which Coniston Coaches had faved photos of on there flickr page. It was not 9803 because it had county coaches in red letters on the destination blind. So I went on Google Earth to find some old street view pictures of County Coaches old depot before it had closed last year. I could both PLAXTON beaver 2's one with red lettering and one with white lettering on the destination blind. At the time every thing was leading towards S194 HOK. I am sorry for getting it wrong but I did do my research.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/conistoncoaches/favorites/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/conistoncoaches/favorites/)
Cheers folks for sorting this one out, I need to hunt this one down ! It was new to Tait of Irvine. :)
Quote from: B61 ANDREW on February 01, 2015, 05:52:42 PM
Cheers folks for sorting this one out, I need to hunt this one down ! It was new to Tait of Irvine. :)
I have all ready found one photo of V771 GCS on Smug Mug. :)
http://victoryguy.smugmug.com/keyword/irvine/i-XrnGjxH/A (http://victoryguy.smugmug.com/keyword/irvine/i-XrnGjxH/A)
Quote from: Matt on January 28, 2015, 06:21:36 PM
Coniston have been using N16 PJF on the HRC1 over recent weeks, not one of their fleet I have seen before recently
Quote from: Matt on January 28, 2015, 06:21:36 PM
Coniston have been using N16 PJF on the HRC1 over recent weeks, not one of their fleet I have seen before recently
matt what sort of coach is N16 PJF please
cedric
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matt what sort of coach is N16 PJF please
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A photo on Flickr shows it as a Bova, working for Hazel of Northlew who I believe either downsized their fleet last year or ceased trading altogether. :-[
Quote from: B61 ANDREW on February 02, 2015, 08:43:41 AM
matt what sort of coach is N16 PJF please
cedric
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A photo on Flickr shows it as a Bova, working for Hazel of Northlew who I believe either downsized their fleet last year or ceased trading altogether. :-[
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I photographed it last Friday in Birmingham. I will put the photo on the main site tonight
Quote from: Cedric on February 01, 2015, 09:06:41 PM
Quote from: Matt on January 28, 2015, 06:21:36 PM
Coniston have been using N16 PJF on the HRC1 over recent weeks, not one of their fleet I have seen before recently
Quote from: Matt on January 28, 2015, 06:21:36 PM
Coniston have been using N16 PJF on the HRC1 over recent weeks, not one of their fleet I have seen before recently
matt what sort of coach is N16 PJF please
cedric
Here is a photo
http://wmbusphotos.com/Worcs/ConistonN16RJF.html
Currently on board the Coniston Dart on the 15 I'll have to admit this bus is a little pocket rocket! Goes like a bomb :D :D I love it
Conistons CC05BUS Spinter Van has been operating the 15 service today 8)
Quote from: LM 172 on February 14, 2015, 03:12:26 PM
Conistons CC05BUS Spinter Van has been operating the 15 service today 8)
Did not. They had any van conversions ? Thought they where all as built
Quote from: Cedric on February 14, 2015, 05:41:34 PM
Quote from: LM 172 on February 14, 2015, 03:12:26 PM
Conistons CC05BUS Spinter Van has been operating the 15 service today 8)
Did not. They had any van conversions ? Thought they where all as built
Virtually all 10 year old Mercedes minibsues are van conversions. Mercedes didn't actually factory produce them. CC05 BUS has an Olympic conversion from a van shell
new timetable and route changes for the 15/s15 to improve reliability
From 22nd February 2015
Service 15/S15 (Coniston Coaches) Kidderminster – Wilden – Stourport - Burlish – Lickhill Services revised to improve reliability. New timetable, see below, and some minor route changes to Stourport Estates: Hartlebury Park: now only serves Kylemilne Stores, not the top of The Grove; Wilden Top: no longer serves Wivelden Avenue, Watchtower Road, but stops at junction of Wilden Top Road and Wivelden Avenue; Power Station Estate: no longer serves Power Station Road and Resolution Way, operates direct via Discovery Road.
16
http://www.worcestershire.gov.uk/downloads/file/4719/bus_service_changes_18-02-2015
Conistons Coaches 5281RU (V771GCS) Plaxton Beaver 2 operating the 15 service for part of the day today it has now lost its ex County Coaches of Brentwood stickers.
I saw yesterday a yaringtons of eardiston bus operating the 15 , could not id it or make as I was just boarding a bus . this was around 6pm in Kidderminster bus station
Quote from: Matt on April 26, 2015, 11:17:18 PM
wasn't an omnilink was it?
could have been matt never seen one, and it did not look much like a enviro . look a full size bus
Quote from: Cedric on April 26, 2015, 11:31:03 PM
could have been matt never seen one, and it did not look much like a enviro . look a full size bus
I believe they've even got a tri-axle OmniLink which may be the one Matt was referring to, YN08DDU: https://www.flickr.com/photos/gezzasgallery/12837026575/ Would have been fun to see that one manoevre around Kidderminster if it was on the 15 though!
Quote from: DiamondDart on April 26, 2015, 11:39:57 PM
I believe they've even got a tri-axle OmniLink which may be the one Matt was referring to, YN08DDU: https://www.flickr.com/photos/gezzasgallery/12837026575/ Would have been fun to see that one manoevre around Kidderminster if it was on the 15 though!
that looks like the one I saw but did not see axles it ha a paper card in windscreen with 15 on.and just checked the 15 timetable and 18.00 is the last 15 of the day from kidderminster
Quote from: DiamondDart on April 26, 2015, 11:39:57 PM
I believe they've even got a tri-axle OmniLink which may be the one Matt was referring to, YN08DDU: https://www.flickr.com/photos/gezzasgallery/12837026575/ Would have been fun to see that one manoevre around Kidderminster if it was on the 15 though!
No you are wrong if you think it is Yarrantons OmmiLink YN08DDU in fact it SN04EGC Enviro300 this bus did previously operate the 758 between Tenbury Wells and Worcester before the arrival of the OmmiLink. After YN08DDU arrived SN04EGC was then used as a spare bus for the 758. But the OmmiLink has been so reliable that Yarringtons no longer need the spare bus. The enviro300 had just been sitting in the back of Yarringtons depot doing nothing for at least 6 months or so.
Apparently it has been sold or loaned to Coniston Coaches so they now have 2 Low Floor buses for the 15 rather than just the one Dart W632RNP which is not that reliable. So this means that the Dart W632RNP is now the spare bus for the 15 rather than the V reg Plaxton Beaver 2 which is not Low Floor. The Enviro300 will be painted in due course if it has been purchased by Coniston.
https://flic.kr/p/o3WPru (https://flic.kr/p/o3WPru)
https://flic.kr/p/pctM9E (https://flic.kr/p/pctM9E)
This is a picture I took on Saturday in Kidderminster.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=369233499934898&set=a.330240520500863.1073741829.100005447523905&type=1 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=369233499934898&set=a.330240520500863.1073741829.100005447523905&type=1)
a Yarrantons vehicle has been operating on the 15 again with no on hire notices on display, so I am just wondering if it has been purchased ,
? or there's a conection between the two firms
Quote from: Cedric on July 24, 2015, 05:03:22 PM
a Yarrantons vehicle has been operating on the 15 again with no on hire notices on display, so I am just wondering if it has been purchased ,
? or there's a conection between the two firms
@Cedric This has happened again due to the dart going in for some repairs.
Quote from: Reece on July 24, 2015, 11:05:26 PM
@Cedric This has happened again due to the dart going in for some repairs.
They are on very good terms, the boss of Coniston started out in life at Yarrantons. They have a good working relationship.
Quote from: BN on July 25, 2015, 07:42:53 AM
They are on very good terms, the boss of Coniston started out in life at Yarrantons. They have a good working relationship.
What do they use on 15 service?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 29, 2015, 02:34:45 PM
What do they use on 15 service?
A simple Google search:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=coniston+coaches&biw=1920&bih=983&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAWoVChMI3uKQ4rqAxwIVZSvbCh2nVwZb#imgrc=fzOQ-ibnU2-bQM%3A
Seen yesterday on coniston's service 15 a white X reg solo (think I was x reg )
with Coniston legal lettering no other marking
Yes, I saw that too in Kiddy, and recorded it as X165NWR. Googling, it seems to have previously resided up in Yorkshire!
Quote from: Ossie on August 30, 2015, 12:42:36 PM
Yes, I saw that too in Kiddy, and recorded it as X165NWR. Googling, it seems to have previously resided up in Yorkshire!
Quote from: Cedric on August 30, 2015, 11:04:14 AM
Seen yesterday on coniston's service 15 a white X reg solo (think I was x reg )
with Coniston legal lettering no other marking
Thanks I was on a bus at the time which it passed so could not get all the reg wonder if it has replaced the dart
Newly Purchased Optare Solo X165NWR on the 15 to Stourport.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/21041360105/in/dateposted-public/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/21041360105/in/dateposted-public/)
The W reg Dennis Dart MPD has now been withdrawn after a serious engine problem.
Optare Solo CE52 UWS - is this a Coniston vehicle?
Seen in Stourport today with school kids on - running the S15?
The rear display was saying Merry Christmas...
Quote from: StourportSam on September 30, 2015, 04:07:53 PM
Optare Solo CE52 UWS - is this a Coniston vehicle?
Seen in Stourport today with school kids on - running the S15?
The rear display was saying Merry Christmas...
@StourportSam Yes it is owned by Coniston the owner of Coniston Coaches told me it was on the way to them when I went with Coniston to Showbus. I am was told that CE52 UWS is pacifically for the 15 route and that allows the X reg Solo to become the spare bus but it can also be used for school because it's got seat belts.
Thought it might be of interest to note that the 15 from Kidderminster just before 5pm this evening was full with about 25 passengers. I don't normally catch this service so don't know if that's normal or not. When the service was ran by Whittle Kidderminster-Stourport-Bewdley it was always very lightly loaded.
CE52 UWS has now been fitted with LED destination indicators and has also been decked out with tinsel for Christmas!
Plain white Optare Solo SR (looked like a 14 plate?) in Stourport today, going along route of the 15. Is this a new Coniston vehicle?
Quote from: StourportSam on January 29, 2016, 11:46:55 AM
Plain white Optare Solo SR (looked like a 14 plate?) in Stourport today, going along route of the 15. Is this a new Coniston vehicle?
Probably not tbh it could possibly be a loan vehicle as the yellow Solo one was involved in a minor bump the other day with a Honda Jazz at the Comberton Hill roundabout
Probably an ex Malta Dawson's Rentals Solo SR then
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on January 30, 2016, 01:19:22 PM
Probably an ex Malta Dawson's Rentals Solo SR then
I can confirm the Solo SR in question is KX14FJO ex Malta Public Transport
https://flic.kr/p/CPU5sg (https://flic.kr/p/CPU5sg)
https://flic.kr/p/DMhWkv (https://flic.kr/p/DMhWkv)
I've just had it confirmed that the Solo SR that Coniston have using at present is a loan vehicle which was arranged by there insurance company this is following the yellow Solo being involved in a bump 3 weeks ago
X165 NWR back in use on the 15, now carrying the private plate 5281 RU previously carried by the beaver.
Quote from: StourportSam on February 24, 2016, 05:46:36 PM
X165 NWR back in use on the 15, now carrying the private plate 5281 RU previously carried by the beaver.
I noticed that yesterday at first I thought it was the ex-Yellow Buses Solo had been painted White then I did a car check on X165NWR and that reg number no longer exists
Quote from: StourportSam on December 09, 2015, 06:34:34 PM
CE52 UWS has now been fitted with LED destination indicators and has also been decked out with tinsel for Christmas!
seen this today in Coniston's red livery , is this the one that used to be in the yellow livery or the one that was white
Quote from: Cedric on March 23, 2016, 09:09:13 PM
seen this today in Coniston's red livery , is this the one that used to be in the yellow livery or the one that was white
@Cedric - It was the yellow one
All white Solo MX55 BYA with Webberbus names just about visible is working the 15 today.
Quote from: D10 on January 28, 2017, 03:07:04 PM
All white Solo MX55 BYA with Webberbus names just about visible is working the 15 today.
Coniston have owned this Solo for well over a year now but it is usually only used on school work that's why it is still plain white but in the last few weeks it has started getting on the 15 more frequently I have a photo of it on my flickr page.
Have Coniston acquired a Wright bodied bus, 51 plate? Seen it around Stourport a couple of times over the past week. Was not on the 15 - school contract?
Quote from: StourportSam on October 11, 2017, 05:16:56 PM
Have Coniston acquired a Wright bodied bus, 51 plate? Seen it around Stourport a couple of times over the past week. Was not on the 15 - school contract?
YN51 MKZ. Just been resprayed into Coniston red. Seat belts, so for school work presumably...
Quote from: StourportSam on November 10, 2017, 10:59:12 PM
YN51 MKZ. Just been resprayed into Coniston red. Seat belts, so for school work presumably...
Ex Yarrantons?
Seems to have done the rounds since then - seems to have last been with Howard/Springfield, Warrington as V23HOW.
Quote from: StourportSam on November 10, 2017, 10:59:12 PM
YN51 MKZ. Just been resprayed into Coniston red. Seat belts, so for school work presumably...
Quote from: StourportSam on November 10, 2017, 10:59:12 PM
YN51 MKZ. Just been resprayed into Coniston red. Seat belts, so for school work presumably...
saw this on the 15 last week
I rode on it last Saturday, a pleasant upgrade from an MPD:
Quote from: dave47549 (no longer NEL111P) on March 03, 2018, 12:09:59 PM
I rode on it last Saturday, a pleasant upgrade from an MPD:
Is this now a regular bus on the 15 ?
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on March 03, 2018, 02:11:40 PM
Is this now a regular bus on the 15 ?
posting a link from traveline as it's a funny timetable to explain
http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&command=direct&net=twm&line=09015&sup=A&itdLPxx_direction=H&project=y11&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_sessionID=CEN_EFA03_39531261&lineVer=1&itdLPxx_spTr=1&itdLPxx_operatorCodeForTTB=CON
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on March 03, 2018, 02:11:40 PM
Is this now a regular bus on the 15 ?
No idea, as i'm not a regular! (I use the route about 5-8 times a year)
Quote from: dave47549 (no longer NEL111P) on March 03, 2018, 03:48:36 PM
No idea, as i'm not a regular! (I use the route about 5-8 times a year)
Ok thanks anyway
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on March 03, 2018, 02:11:40 PM
Is this now a regular bus on the 15 ?
Yes it is, I live on the 15 route and it seems to be the usual vehicle for it now.
Quote from: D10 on March 04, 2018, 11:17:42 AM
Yes it is, I live on the 15 route and it seems to be the usual vehicle for it now.
Many thanks
@D10. Will have to get down to Kidderminster at some point then
Just spotted Solo YJ06 YSE in white with Llew Jones fleetnames as the vehicle on the first day of operation of the 15A. Any spottings on the other routes?
Ex Lothian Solo SN08 BYY on the 15 today - even in Lothian livery with lettering removed it was tidier than most of the Diamond buses.
Quote from: mikestone on September 19, 2018, 07:49:13 PM
Ex Lothian Solo SN08 BYY on the 15 today - even in Lothian livery with lettering removed it was tidier than most of the Diamond buses.
Still running around with no blinds though even after a few months.
Coniston Coaches (Bus Fleet)
W632RNP (Possible Scrapped)
X165NWR (5281 RU) [Withdrawn]
X186BNH (Used as Depot office)
CE52UWE [Withdrawn]
MX55BYA
YN51MKZ
YJ54ZYB
SN08BYY
SN08BYZ
SN08BZA (Still in Standard Life blue)
SN08BZB
SN08BZC (white)
LED Blinds to replace the automatic traditional blinds are in the process of being sorted for all 5 ex Lothian Solo. Just give them time they are a small independent after all!
Just seen BZA still with paper destinations and in blue... 6 months is plenty of time to sort this I'm sure everyone agrees
I don't know, still quicker than Rotala.
Quote from: Steveminor on July 22, 2019, 06:03:13 PM
I don't know, still quicker than Rotala.
How would you know if the destination on the front of a Rotala bus is working correctly? You only get to see the back when you follow it all morning and all afternoon around the business park.
The painting I meant.
Besides at least our 75s don't break down constantly or just bigger off down the M42 whenever they feel like.
Quote from: Steveminor on July 23, 2019, 06:32:28 AM
The painting I meant.
Besides at least our 75s don't break down constantly or just bigger off down the M42 whenever they feel like.
Have Claribel's painted their 17 plate E200's from dealer stock white then?? It's only been two years..... it took 12 months for them to stretch to front a logo from operating anonymously.
Claribels have always used white for adl enviros even back before I joined them, but diamond use a multitude of different operators liveries.
Quote from: Steveminor on July 23, 2019, 07:09:15 AM
Claribels have always used white for adl enviros even back before I joined them, but diamond use a multitude of different operators liveries.
How's that an excuse? You've been back long enough.
Does the budget from cherry picking other operators routes not stretch to painting buses, seen as though Claribel's are such a professional / quality operator.
What & Rotala don't, they're a scumbag cowboy outfit that should be put off the road officially voted the worst operator in the UK.
Quote from: Steveminor on July 23, 2019, 07:18:08 AM
What & Rotala don't, they're a scumbag cowboy outfit that should be put off the road officially voted the worst operator in the UK.
I've noticed how professional the Claribel's management are on the forum with their comments - Pmsl, especially when compared to all the others management that post/view the forum.
Quote from: Winston on July 23, 2019, 07:22:42 AM
I've noticed how professional the Claribel's management are on the forum with their comments - Pmsl, especially when compared to all the others management that post/view the forum.
I'm guessing diamond are winning the competition
Quote from: Winston on July 23, 2019, 07:32:37 AM
What?
That's why Steve is acting so bitter and slamming rotala
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 23, 2019, 07:33:51 AM
That's why Steve is acting so bitter and slamming rotala
May have been better to reply to Steve's rather than my comment, that's why I didn't get where you were coming from.
Trying to rescue the thread hijack...
Was the allover white Plaxton Dart with a (mostly) pink skirt that I saw in Worcester on Saturday Coniston's? Would favour them over LMS having it
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 23, 2019, 07:33:51 AM
That's why Steve is acting so bitter and slamming rotala
No look at vosa registrations they cancelled 75 then registered it 2 mins in front with THREE weeks notice. Now legislation says 70 days. I'm all for competition, but at least have the pretext of abiding by the legislation.
Quote from: Steveminor on July 23, 2019, 08:26:21 AM
No look at vosa registrations they cancelled 75 then registered it 2 mins in front with THREE weeks notice. Now legislation says 70 days. I'm all for competition, but at least have the pretext of abiding by the legislation.
What goes around, comes around re: competition.
It's up to the TC to accept/decline it.
As I said in all for competition but legitimately.
T.c also acts on letters of support from lta's.
Let's leave it there shall we.
Quote from: Steveminor on July 23, 2019, 08:39:28 AM
As I said in all for competition but legitimately.
T.c also acts on letters of support from lta's.
Let's leave it there shall we.
I'll finish speaking we I see fit.
It's only the same as Claribel's being the 'agressor' on the 75 running 2 mins infront. Seemed to have changed your tune now the boots on the other foot....
I trust the white E200's aren't back on the 55, I don't believe they comply with B'han City Centre AQPS rules being in non fleet livery.
As I said competition is competition but do it legitmately with full 70day notice.
Aqps wording says not in a previous operators livery do a brand new bus cannot be in a previous operators livery, however a racked of Volvo in wessex connect livery does breach aqps & a bus still painted in central buses or Hanson's livery does as well.
Why do people feel the need to defend theses jokers!!!!
Quote from: Steveminor on July 23, 2019, 09:07:03 AM
As I said competition is competition but do it legitmately with full 70day notice.
Aqps wording says not in a previous operators livery do a brand new bus cannot be in a previous operators livery, however a racked of Volvo in wessex connect livery does breach aqps & a bus still painted in central buses or Hanson's livery does as well.
Why do people feel the need to defend theses jokers!!!!
Where exactly am I defending Diamond or Rotala?
You are the one that bought them in to 'Coniston Coaches' thread with your 'professional' comments again. The arguments you're accusing them of, your employer is equally guilty of. Brand new or not, allover white may be 'Dawson Rentals' fleet livery, but does consitute a Claribel's livery by any means, whether you were there when new or not.
Quote from: Steveminor on July 23, 2019, 07:09:15 AM
Claribels have always used white for adl enviros even back before I joined them, but diamond use a multitude of different operators liveries.
re diamond they brought Hanson's central buses arriva Wednesfield takes time+ money they have made a start in painting the
buses into fleet livery
Do I say you were defending them? No I didnt as I said brand new Dawson's Mistrals or adl is not a previous operator, so not in breach what Diamond uses clearly is, yet No one says anything about that.
@Solo1 yes I know they bought them but that's beside the point those buses are not in their livery they're in their previous operators livery, as for taking time & money to paint the buses I agree totally but how long ago did they buy those operators & shouldn't they prioritise painting those over buses that are already in fleet livery?
Quote from: Steveminor on July 23, 2019, 09:22:28 AM
Do I say you were defending them? No I didnt as I said brand new Dawson's Mistrals or adl is not a previous operator, so not in breach what Diamond uses clearly is, yet No one says anything about that.
" Why do people feel the need to defend these jokers " in reply to my last post??
Mistral / ADL whatever dealer stock white (RAL 9010) is not a livery either! (Yes - Diamond have a few white Solo SR's still in Redditch - before you say)
Why do you have to bring Diamond in to every reply, you clearly have a personal issue with them. Plenty people post negative comments about Diamond's liveries. You don't see Simon (Arriva) slagging off NXWM on here & Facebook, now do you.
Exactly I said people not you by name
@Winston.
As for how I choose to post on my own personal profile that's upto me, difference is Simon's forum account is on behalf of Arriva or the other Simon rotala. My account has been mine whoever I work for.
Or are you trying to censor my freedom of speech?????
Quote from: Steveminor on July 23, 2019, 09:36:50 AM
Exactly I said people not you by name @Winston.
As for how I choose to post on my own personal profile that's upto me, difference is Simon's forum account is on behalf of Arriva or the other Simon rotala. My account has been mine whoever I work for.
Or are you trying to censor my freedom of speech?????
Part of the comment is in direct reply to my last people. I'm included in 'people'
Personal account or not, the others wouldn't post in publicly, whether they thought it not.
No you can post what you like on here 'within reason' , you're merely demonstrating how professional you are.....
Well if you thought I meant you as well in that statement tgen that's your opinion, you're entitled to you're own opinion & to voice it.
I am merely voicing my own personal opinions on my own personal profile.
My final comment on the subject - personal accounts / personal opinions doesn't wash from someone in your position. You're employer will almost definitely be dragged in to it. There are numerous senior people within the industry / governing bodies that view this forum hidden that don't hold accounts & post.
My Final say. No matter how unprofessional you say I am, it doesn't come close to the unprofessional conduct when the director of one operator phones the manager of another & threatens tgem with physical violence.
Names of operators involved purposely omitted
Quote from: uniquicity on July 23, 2019, 07:43:28 AM
Trying to rescue the thread hijack...
Was the allover white Plaxton Dart with a (mostly) pink skirt that I saw in Worcester on Saturday Coniston's? Would favour them over LMS having it
I think you are referring to KN52 NFO which you would not believe is actually operated by Aston's (if they still have it as I've not seen it for a while) They also have sister KN52 NFY which is in plain white with Aston's livery. I presume they have never got round to painting NFO.
Hope this helps 🙂
This is the Dart you are referring to
http://wmbusphotos.com/Astons/KN52NFO.html
Quote from: Tony on July 23, 2019, 10:58:58 AM
This is the Dart you are referring to
http://wmbusphotos.com/Astons/KN52NFO.html
Thanks, I hadn't thought of sharing a picture of it! 😂
From Coniston's Facebook page:
We would like to inform all of our customers that we as a company have decided to terminate all of our contracts with Worcestershire County Council.
We have come to this sad decision following the on going serious health issues of Keith. This is combined with the on going issues and a breakdown of our long working relationship with Worcestershire County Council.
We will continue to operate all services until Worcestershire County Council have found replacement operators.
We would like to thank all of our fantastic, hard working staff, past and present, who have been the heart and soul of these services. We would also like to thank each and every one of our loyal and appreciative customers who we have been honoured to serve over the many years.
This doesn't affect any other bookings that customers may have with us and you will still be able to contact us through the usual phone numbers and e-mail addresses.
We appreciate your understanding of our difficult decision.
From Traveline, the following services come up as currently being operated by them:
15AConiston Coaches
Kidderminster - Burlish - Stourport - Kidderminster
15CConiston Coaches
Kidderminster - Stourport - Burlish - Kidderminster
133Coniston Coaches
Kidderminster - Chaddesley Corbett - Droitwich
213Coniston Coaches
Stourport - Astley Burf (Circular)
294Coniston Coaches
Kidderminster - Stourport - Hallow - Worcester
296Coniston Coaches
Bewdley - Stourport - Hallow - Worcester
580Coniston Coaches
Kidderminster - Sion Hill - Wolverley - Kinver
S15Coniston Coaches
Kidderminster - Wilden Top - Stourport - Bewdley
Right on top of R&B very sad and my best wishes to the family I am sure
@Cedric would agree this looks like emergency tenders for Diamond as such vital rural Worcs links cannot be lost.
richard i can not aggree with you as i do not know anything about what type of tenders they are. and i would rather not say what i have heard or been told as i can not confirm it is 100 % true apart from whats in the post by d10
https://www.kidderminstershuttle.co.uk/news/18207155.drivers-lose-jobs-coniston-coaches-cuts-council-contract/?ref=ebln
Some good news that may come out of this
@Cedric perhaps more work for Yarnatons who must have thier eye on.the 296 along with all these unexpected tenders the operator of last resort will be Diamond Bus I cant think of anyone else to tender can you?
Quote from: richardjones210368 on February 04, 2020, 11:16:54 AM
Some good news that may come out of this @Cedric perhaps more work for Yarnatons who must have thier eye on.the 296 along with all these unexpected tenders the operator of last resort will be Diamond Bus I cant think of anyone else to tender can you?
Unless Whittle's under Johnson's ever fancy a bash at WCC tendered work ?
Quote from: Winston on February 04, 2020, 11:48:37 AM
Unless Whittle's under Johnson's ever fancy a bash at WCC tendered work ?
its possible but they didn't go for the 292 tender which would have been a good fit for them
Quote from: Winston on February 04, 2020, 11:48:37 AM
Unless Whittle's under Johnson's ever fancy a bash at WCC tendered work ?
doubt it whittles have no buses
Quote from: richardjones210368 on February 04, 2020, 12:43:23 PM
its possible but they didn't go for the 292 tender which would have been a good fit for them
good fit for who ?
Quote from: richardjones210368 on February 04, 2020, 11:16:54 AM
Some good news that may come out of this @Cedric perhaps more work for Yarnatons who must have thier eye on.the 296 along with all these unexpected tenders the operator of last resort will be Diamond Bus I cant think of anyone else to tender can you?
no good guessing
Quote from: richardjones210368 on February 04, 2020, 11:16:54 AM
Some good news that may come out of this @Cedric perhaps more work for Yarnatons who must have thier eye on.the 296 along with all these unexpected tenders the operator of last resort will be Diamond Bus I cant think of anyone else to tender can you?
to small to take more on
Quote from: Cedric on February 04, 2020, 02:19:48 PM
doubt it whittles have no buses
I know that, nothing stopping them loaning some from Johnson's or hiring some in shorterm.
Quote from: Cedric on February 04, 2020, 02:24:48 PM
no good guessing
Johnsons if they wished to enter Kidderminster bus services.
Quote from: Cedric on February 04, 2020, 02:19:48 PM
doubt it whittles have no buses
Yes but I am sure Johnsons have something lying about Liverage Hill if they wished to tender in Kiddy.
Quote from: Cedric on February 04, 2020, 02:26:08 PM
to small to take more on
Oh well then
@Cedric other than Astons or the artist previously known as Midland Red West; and god help with that option: as Dame Shirley Bassey would put its so eloquently then
"DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER"......................
Who ever picks up the services let's hope they take on the drivers not sure if office was run by Keith
Quote from: Solo1 on February 04, 2020, 11:21:06 PM
Who ever picks up the services let's hope they take on the drivers not sure if office was run by Keith
If they are local authority contracts
@Solo1 the staff can be TUPED giving them the same legal rights with the new operator as the previous one if it is judged the local authority contracts are a legally acceptable transfer of undertaking.
Quote from: richardjones210368 on February 04, 2020, 11:27:43 PM
If they are local authority contracts @Solo1 the staff can be TUPED giving them the same legal rights with the new operator as the previous one if it is judged the local authority contracts are a legally acceptable transfer of undertaking.
the article in the link i posted it says 6 drivers will have been made redundent .
on the tendered bus service finish as coniston is still trading just coaching .
Quote from: Cedric on February 05, 2020, 12:03:21 AM
the article in the link i posted it says 6 drivers have been made redundent .
that would be those on the bus side as coniston is still trading just coaching .
I was under the impression Coniston Coaches were continuing to operate thier contracts untill rendering formal redundancy terms would be issued to the drivers who will continue untill cessation but the local authority could in theory TUPE the drivers on thier contracts to the new operator.
Quote from: richardjones210368 on February 05, 2020, 12:36:57 AM
I was under the impression Coniston Coaches were continuing to operate thier contracts untill rendering formal redundancy terms would be issued to the drivers who will continue untill cessation but the local authority could in theory TUPE the drivers on thier contracts to the new operator.
my post which you have quote has now edited
Quote from: richardjones210368 on February 05, 2020, 12:36:57 AM
I was under the impression Coniston Coaches were continuing to operate thier contracts untill rendering formal redundancy terms would be issued to the drivers who will continue untill cessation but the local authority could in theory TUPE the drivers on thier contracts to the new operator.
The WCC contracts have been handed back by Coniston, therefore, they will need to be re-tendered either on a permanent or emergency basis by any new operator, it's unlikely TUPE will apply in this instance.
Quote from: Winston on February 05, 2020, 12:57:05 AM
The WCC contracts have been handed back by Coniston, therefore, they will need to be re-tendered either on a permanent or emergency basis by any new operator, it's unlikely TUPE will apply in this instance.
Yes more than likely to be fair as the contracts have been handed back not taken over
a light blue optare was operating the 15c today around 12.30 it was a 08 plate could not get full reg, no markings or legal lettering on it . nothing in display only card in windscreen , not seen it before
Quote from: Cedric on February 18, 2020, 03:01:35 PM
a light blue optare was operating the 15c today around 12.30 it was a 08 plate could not get full reg, no markings or legal lettering on it . nothing in display only card in windscreen , not seen it before
Probably SN08 BZA - has been with Coniston as long as the other ex-Lothian Solos but in blue.
thanks sam not seen it before . only see the red minicoaches/buses usual now . a news of who is take over ? the routes .
anyone know whats going here as they where giving up there wcc tenders and contracts . over the last 2 days i heard they where keeping them, and also they are still giving them up ?.
just seen on a website astons will be starting on the 15a/15c/s15/294/296 from april 19th. nothing about the the 133/213/580 yet
Quote from: Cedric on March 31, 2020, 12:00:49 PM
just seen on a website astons will be starting on the 15a/15c/s15/294/296 from april 19th. nothing about the the 133/213/580 yet
My estimations are the following:
580 Kidderminster-Kinver DIAMOND
133 Kidderminster-Droitwich KEVS or DIAMOND
213 Stourport - Astley Burf WYRE FOREST DIAL-A-RIDE
Quote from: BusMan Greg on March 31, 2020, 09:27:24 PM
My estimations are the following:
580 Kidderminster-Kinver DIAMOND
133 Kidderminster-Droitwich KEVS or DIAMOND
213 Stourport - Astley Burf WYRE FOREST DIAL-A-RIDE
this has been post elswhere 133/213 conistons 580 wfdar
Quote from: Cedric on April 03, 2020, 10:53:20 AM
this has been post elsewhere 133/213 conistons 580 wfdar
a correction to the post as previous information was incorrect on the 580 dial a ride have not got the 580 i was told this in email from wfdae coniston have got 133 / 213/580
Anyone know how the PI ended up, I know they are still running but don't know the outcome?
Are coniston still going not seen one of there vehicles on the road for a good while .
Quote from: Cedric on August 25, 2020, 04:29:22 PM
Are coniston still going not seen one of there vehicles on the road for a good while .
Mini-bus TDZ6674 sighted yesterday but not close enough to see any legal lettering.
Quote from: Cedric on August 25, 2020, 04:29:22 PM
Are coniston still going not seen one of there vehicles on the road for a good while .
Yes, I regularly see them operating on the 133.
Quote from: D10 on August 26, 2020, 08:38:54 PM
Yes, I regularly see them operating on the 133.
On checking the timetable for the 133 and my location at the time ,my sighting of "TDZ" could have been a 133 working ?
i must be about at wrong times
A rumor is going around that a company under the name Bridgnorth bus and coach will be taking on the 580
Quote from: BusMan Greg on September 25, 2020, 09:24:30 AM
A rumor is going around that a company under the name Bridgnorth bus and coach will be taking on the 580
Not a rumor the 133 ,213 ,580 have new operators
133 finesse coaches from 1\10/2020
213 wyre forest dial a ride from 1\10/2020
580 bridgnorth bus and coach from 1/10/2020
conistons website and facebook page are down again
Quote from: BusMan Greg on September 25, 2020, 09:24:30 AM
A rumor is going around that a company under the name Bridgnorth bus and coach will be taking on the 580
Diamond Buses now appear to be taking over the 580 instead of Bridgnorth Bus & Coach. A photo has been posted on Facebook of a Streetlite testing the 580 blind.
some problem with a vehicle supplier letting them down at last minute
Quote from: Cedric on September 25, 2020, 10:16:18 AM
Not a rumor the 133 ,213 ,580 have new operators
133 finesse coaches from 1\10/2020
213 wyre forest dial a ride from 1\10/2020
580 Diamond from 1/10/2020
conistons website and facebook page are down again
Quote from: BN on August 02, 2020, 07:31:09 AM
Anyone know how the PI ended up, I know they are still running but don't know the outcome?
just seen in n &p s for 2\10\20 licence revoked
Where are Finesse Travel based? (The new operator of the 133)
Quote from: BusMan Greg on October 13, 2020, 07:11:54 PM
Where are Finesse Travel based? (The new operator of the 133)
From vosa...
Also run 354 Droitwich - Redditch
Quote from: BusMan Greg on October 13, 2020, 07:11:54 PM
Where are Finesse Travel based? (The new operator of the 133)
worcester
Quote from: Tony on October 13, 2020, 07:24:08 PM
Thandi?
not thandi tony
this is address i have for new operator different to one in another post Finesse Travel (133 service), 01905 458459,18 Eliot Road
Worcester, WR3 8DP
I assume it's:
David John & Winifred Ruth Williams, 3 St Andrews Clo, Droitwich, WR9 8RE [PD1065477/N-2]
FN: Finesse Travel
OC: r/o The Conifers, Evesham Rd, Egdon, Spetchley, WR7 4QN
https://www.kidderminstershuttle.co.uk/news/18822713.stourport-coniston-coaches-bosses-covered-missed-inspections/
Pretty damning really, shouldn't have been on the road.