Following on from the 11E sightings lately, I will start off this thread with one I saw last Saturday,
of 4910 on a 957E to the Bullring Markets
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/10101513144/
Also, one I pictured in 2010, 4683 on a 51E to Aston 6 Ways
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/5824339576/
7E to College Road Crossroads :)
Saw a short to George Frederick Road but cant remember what service
Most Hanovers have all sorts of potential destinations for short workings programmed in for each route, in case of severe weather etc. They will usually include all the timing points and one or two others. For example I know "Royal Oak 9E" is possible although have never seen it in action
I don't know if it is timetabled but I've seen
126E to Edgbaston Five Ways
80E to Edgbaston Five Ways
87E Town Hall
I also saw an 87E to Oldbury around 2pm this afternoon
Quote from: vinh1000 on October 09, 2013, 04:54:29 PM
7E to College Road Crossroads :)
Saw a short to George Frederick Road but cant remember what service
That would have been a timetabled 935E at peak times, then starts the 935 back to Birmingham from Kingstanding Circle. Not sure if thats still the case
Monday - Friday 60E - South Yardley
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/9723808391/in/set-72157633993657538
It never used to be unusual to see a 9E to Quinton Church
Are the 9E'S to Edgbaston, Five Ways timetabled
How come a short journey on the 11 isn't 11AE or 11CE?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 09, 2013, 08:18:37 PM
How come a short journey on the 11 isn't 11AE or 11CE?
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Don't think you can get four digits on the display
I suppose it's less complicated, not to mention would require a change in LED font.
Speaking of untimetabled E workings, I've noticed on busy saturdays there are some 35E terminating at Cannon Hill Park but they always seem to be followed almost immediately by a full journey!
Quote from: Dylan4579 on October 09, 2013, 08:23:16 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 09, 2013, 08:18:37 PM
How come a short journey on the 11 isn't 11AE or 11CE?
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Don't think you can get four digits on the display
You can, eg. 904E workings to Sutton
Quote from: John on October 09, 2013, 08:24:06 PM
Quote from: Dylan4579 on October 09, 2013, 08:23:16 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 09, 2013, 08:18:37 PM
How come a short journey on the 11 isn't 11AE or 11CE?
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Don't think you can get four digits on the display
You can, eg. 904E workings to Sutton
The B10's used to do 11E runs, and I don't think you can get 4 on that, and NXWM didn't bother to change it
B10s have 4 digit displays ;)
Quote from: trident4370 on October 09, 2013, 08:31:17 PM
B10s have 4 digit displays ;)
Do they? Then I don't have a clue
No worries, They might not all work granted but the facility itself is there. See the second photo on here just to confirm ;) http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1317-1514/1439.html
All WM buses have had 4 track Roller Blinds (Fleetlines and Metrobuses (Maybe earlier than Fleetlines), until Presidents and O405Ns), a quite unusual feature, as most operators only have 3 track.
It makes sense when you consider before all the reviews of late there were a lot of 3 digit routes, all it takes is an E working and you need 4 places, not to mention old routes like 394A.
Quote from: trident4370 on October 09, 2013, 08:48:38 PM
It makes sense when you consider before all the reviews of late there were a lot of 3 digit routes, all it takes is an E working and you need 4 places, not to mention old routes like 394A.
or even now today there are routes like 935E/
Coventry 360A and 360C :P
The Dudley routes have a lot of 4 digit E workings eg: 205E, 120E, 276E
Yes those too :P 255E is another obvious one that springs to mind.
Quote from: Dylan4579 on October 09, 2013, 08:23:16 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 09, 2013, 08:18:37 PM
How come a short journey on the 11 isn't 11AE or 11CE?
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Don't think you can get four digits on the display
See the first post in this topic for a 957E ::)
When it was first introduced, the last journeys of the day on the 31A (before the evening 31A journeys to Robin Hood Island replaced the 31E journeys to Solihull Lane) used to terminate at Acocks Green garage from Shirley as 31AE journeys.
When the 247/8 had A variants, never saw a 247AE though. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Quote from: sonic84 on October 09, 2013, 07:26:41 PM
It never used to be unusual to see a 9E to Quinton Church
It still isn't unusual, there are timetabled Birmingham - Quinton Church 9E workings every weekday afternoon peak
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 09, 2013, 07:53:40 PM
Are the 9E'S to Edgbaston, Five Ways timetabled
No they aren't, but it's not uncommon to see a bus running late on a 9E to Five Ways
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 09, 2013, 09:50:01 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 09, 2013, 07:53:40 PM
Are the 9E'S to Edgbaston, Five Ways timetabled
No they aren't, but it's not uncommon to see a bus running late on a 9E to Five Ways
You also get occasional 120/140Es to Five Ways
Quote from: John on October 09, 2013, 09:52:04 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 09, 2013, 09:50:01 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 09, 2013, 07:53:40 PM
Are the 9E'S to Edgbaston, Five Ways timetabled
No they aren't, but it's not uncommon to see a bus running late on a 9E to Five Ways
You also get occasional 120/140Es to Five Ways
For many years on a Sunday, the 140 only ran to Bearwood so it was 140Es all day.
Another one I have not seen since, was a 141E working from Merry Hill terminating in Bearwood, on 4817 here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8103105649/
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 09, 2013, 09:54:23 PM
Quote from: John on October 09, 2013, 09:52:04 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 09, 2013, 09:50:01 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 09, 2013, 07:53:40 PM
Are the 9E'S to Edgbaston, Five Ways timetabled
No they aren't, but it's not uncommon to see a bus running late on a 9E to Five Ways
You also get occasional 120/140Es to Five Ways
For many years on a Sunday, the 140 only ran to Bearwood so it was 140Es all day.
I remember the 140E's which used to terminate at Birmingham Kings Head. Does anyone know where these used to turn around to get to the other side of the dual carriage way to begin the return journey?
Quote from: John on October 09, 2013, 09:56:30 PM
Another one I have not seen since, was a 141E working from Merry Hill terminating in Bearwood, on 4817 here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8103105649/
There is a 141E Merry Hill to Bearwood every Monday-Saturday night, the 23:00 from Merry Hill
Clearly this is a rogue daytime one though
Quote from: sonic84 on October 09, 2013, 09:59:15 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 09, 2013, 09:54:23 PM
Quote from: John on October 09, 2013, 09:52:04 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 09, 2013, 09:50:01 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 09, 2013, 07:53:40 PM
Are the 9E'S to Edgbaston, Five Ways timetabled
No they aren't, but it's not uncommon to see a bus running late on a 9E to Five Ways
You also get occasional 120/140Es to Five Ways
For many years on a Sunday, the 140 only ran to Bearwood so it was 140Es all day.
I remember the 140E's which used to terminate at Birmingham Kings Head. Does anyone know where these used to turn around to get to the other side of the dual carriage way to begin the return journey?
Did see one once do a u turn at the main traffic lights at Bearwood.
This on as well on the 8C, 1802 came right behind the 8C in front of it, so it was 20 minutes late
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/9150238139/
Quote from: John on October 09, 2013, 10:09:53 PM
This on as well on the 8C, 1802 came right behind the 8C in front of it, so it was 20 minutes late
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/9150238139/
Isn't that where the 8A & 8C begin the Circle?
Quote from: Rob4367 on October 09, 2013, 10:11:43 PM
Isn't that where the 8A & 8C begin the Circle?
Adderly Road is where the Alum Road Road, Washwood Heath Road and Saltley Viaduct all meet
I do think some start from there, yes
Quote from: John on October 09, 2013, 10:15:25 PM
Quote from: Rob4367 on October 09, 2013, 10:11:43 PM
Isn't that where the 8A & 8C begin the Circle?
Adderly Road is where the Alum Road Road, Washwood Heath Road and Saltley Viaduct all meet
I do think some start from there, yes
Thought So Thanks John :) the last time I looked at the 8A/C Timetable was a long while ago now and it read Saltley as the starting point for every Journey
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 09, 2013, 10:01:33 PM
Quote from: sonic84 on October 09, 2013, 09:59:15 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 09, 2013, 09:54:23 PM
Quote from: John on October 09, 2013, 09:52:04 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 09, 2013, 09:50:01 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 09, 2013, 07:53:40 PM
Are the 9E'S to Edgbaston, Five Ways timetabled
No they aren't, but it's not uncommon to see a bus running late on a 9E to Five Ways
You also get occasional 120/140Es to Five Ways
For many years on a Sunday, the 140 only ran to Bearwood so it was 140Es all day.
I remember the 140E's which used to terminate at Birmingham Kings Head. Does anyone know where these used to turn around to get to the other side of the dual carriage way to begin the return journey?
Did see one once do a u turn at the main traffic lights at Bearwood.
Once runningboards began to specify the route to be taken when running out of service it was continue along Hagley Road, left into Barnsley Road, left into Sandon Road, left into Rutland Road, left onto Bearwood Road and right back onto Hagley Road.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 09, 2013, 10:01:33 PM
Quote from: sonic84 on October 09, 2013, 09:59:15 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 09, 2013, 09:54:23 PM
Quote from: John on October 09, 2013, 09:52:04 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 09, 2013, 09:50:01 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 09, 2013, 07:53:40 PM
Are the 9E'S to Edgbaston, Five Ways timetabled
No they aren't, but it's not uncommon to see a bus running late on a 9E to Five Ways
You also get occasional 120/140Es to Five Ways
For many years on a Sunday, the 140 only ran to Bearwood so it was 140Es all day.
I remember the 140E's which used to terminate at Birmingham Kings Head. Does anyone know where these used to turn around to get to the other side of the dual carriage way to begin the return journey?
Did see one once do a u turn at the main traffic lights at Bearwood.
They used to do a u-turn for a couple of years for every working. After a while they would just do a loop along Sandon and Bearwood Road to get back to the Hagley Road West
Quote from: Dylan4579 on October 09, 2013, 08:29:32 PM
Quote from: John on October 09, 2013, 08:24:06 PM
Quote from: Dylan4579 on October 09, 2013, 08:23:16 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 09, 2013, 08:18:37 PM
How come a short journey on the 11 isn't 11AE or 11CE?
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Don't think you can get four digits on the display
You can, eg. 904E workings to Sutton
The B10's used to do 11E runs, and I don't think you can get 4 on that, and NXWM didn't bother to change it
Every new bus delivered since 1969, with the exception of those built as dealer stock. Eg 1317 to 1328 have been able to display 4 digit service numbers
The only NXWM buses with 3 track blinds if I remember correctly are the ex London short excels (720x and 4xx fleetnumbers)
Quote from: Dylan4579 on October 09, 2013, 08:23:16 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 09, 2013, 08:18:37 PM
How come a short journey on the 11 isn't 11AE or 11CE?
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Don't think you can get four digits on the display
How about 126E,255/6E,900E etc?
Quote from: Tony on October 10, 2013, 09:54:01 AM
Quote from: Dylan4579 on October 09, 2013, 08:29:32 PM
Quote from: John on October 09, 2013, 08:24:06 PM
Quote from: Dylan4579 on October 09, 2013, 08:23:16 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 09, 2013, 08:18:37 PM
How come a short journey on the 11 isn't 11AE or 11CE?
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Don't think you can get four digits on the display
You can, eg. 904E workings to Sutton
The B10's used to do 11E runs, and I don't think you can get 4 on that, and NXWM didn't bother to change it
Every new bus delivered since 1969, with the exception of those built as dealer stock. Eg 1317 to 1328 have been able to display 4 digit service numbers
Ah yes, good call, forgot about those anomalies.
Personally, I have seen quite a lot of E workings occurring on a snowy days.
I have seen the 957 to terminate at Yardley's Swan centre coming from Solihull, but it is happening often, I assume it is timetabled? I've seen the 58 terminate at there coming from Solihull as well few times.
I also seen the 60 terminate at Hay Mills and terminate at Arden Oak (On one of these snowy days wasn't it?), and I remembered seeing a bus terminating at Saltley, but I can't quite put a finger on what number it was.
Back in the good old days off the 125 i saw the 125E which terminated at Roseville
Saw a 3E to Wobaston this afternoon (A destination i have never seen displayed) due to a car/Pedestrian collision on the Stafford Rd (Vine Island) this morning
AVL must have been busy today as I noticed a couple:
6E from City to Solihull Town (never seen this one on a 6 before)
37E (saw it in Acocks Green towards city) to 'Stratford Road, Stoney Lane' (haven't seen this one for a long while, they normally turn them round at Camp Hill Island)
Some short E's on the Cranes, Cov Rd was chocker!
Quote from: John on October 09, 2013, 10:09:53 PM
This on as well on the 8C, 1802 came right behind the 8C in front of it, so it was 20 minutes late
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/9150238139/
At the Jewellery Quarter, if I see 2 8C's bunched up together, you'd best believe an 8E will follow, and on some occasions two! with the first one to Saltley & the second one to Hockley, Hunters Road, which i guess is slightly uncommon...
Lately, i have seen quite a few 246Es to Russells Hall Hospital, unusual as in the past you would rarely get a 246E. and then it would be to Brierley Hill.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 14, 2013, 08:09:08 PM
Lately, i have seen quite a few 246Es to Russells Hall Hospital, unusual as in the past you would rarely get a 246E. and then it would be to Brierley Hill.
Is this from Dudley or Stourbridge?
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 14, 2013, 08:17:15 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 14, 2013, 08:09:08 PM
Lately, i have seen quite a few 246Es to Russells Hall Hospital, unusual as in the past you would rarely get a 246E. and then it would be to Brierley Hill.
Is this from Dudley or Stourbridge?
The one i saw was coming from Stourbridge Matt.
probably a few 276Es due to the closure of Thorns Road (and massive delays this afternoon because of it!)
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 14, 2013, 08:09:08 PM
Lately, i have seen quite a few 246Es to Russells Hall Hospital, unusual as in the past you would rarely get a 246E. and then it would be to Brierley Hill.
Saw a few 246E's from Stourbridge to Russells Hall in the 6 weeks Holidays because of delays due to roadworks i think
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 14, 2013, 10:18:05 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 14, 2013, 08:09:08 PM
Lately, i have seen quite a few 246Es to Russells Hall Hospital, unusual as in the past you would rarely get a 246E. and then it would be to Brierley Hill.
Saw a few 246E's from Stourbridge to Russells Hall in the 6 weeks Holidays because of delays due to roadworks i think
Think Russells Hall is the choice to turn the 246s short now, Brierley Hill can be a pain especially in the rush hour.
Am surprised there are no 246Es to Russells Hall timetabled, would be easier for the buses to run to garage from there and would cut down on dead mileage.
saw a 55E to Saltley in town on me way home earlier, was 1836 and hazarding a guess it was just going back to the garage
Saw a 60E terminating at Wagon Lane today. First one I've seen.
Quote from: :D on October 18, 2013, 08:16:19 PM
Saw a 60E terminating at Wagon Lane today. First one I've seen.
Think that is the first time a 60 has terminated at Wagon Lane because I think its usually The Wheatsheaf they terminate if they're late but I could be wrong
My Mom has just told me the 60 used to turn round at Wagon Lane in its early days but not since then so I think you've witnessed the first one in a long while :)
saw a 9E in bearwood, going towards stourbrige
Quote from: Dylan4579 on October 18, 2013, 08:35:23 PM
saw a 9E in bearwood, going towards stourbrige
Probably going to Halesowen as that's where most 9E Journey's terminate :)
140E Dudley to Bearwood in the middle of the day today, think it was the 13:08 ex Dudley departure running about 25 minutes late
I've seen 94E's to Arran Way in Smiths Wood a few times, are these timetabled or?
Quote from: JB93 on October 19, 2013, 04:16:23 AM
I've seen 94E's to Arran Way in Smiths Wood a few times, are these timetabled or?
There used to be a timetabled journey to Arran way in PM peak. Just looked at the 94 timetable, and it is not on there any more. If you have seen it recently, then it is untimetabled
Seen a 16E this morning most likely finishing were the 74/5 turn around. First 16E I've seen
A lot of buses are avoiding the city centre today due to the Bupa Half Marathon, every 9, 120, 126, 127, 128, 140 and 141 should terminate at Five Ways during the daytime today I think?
Matt the 126 - 4580 was using Colemore Row this morning not sure if it still is
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 20, 2013, 10:59:56 AM
Seen a 16E this morning most likely finishing were the 74/5 turn around. First 16E I've seen
Will be to do with the Birmingham Half Marathon, as Digbeth is closed. NWM says it is terminating at Moor Street Queensway. From 9am till 12.30pm this afternoon.
You do sometimes see 16Es to Hamstead Village at peak times.
@Matt, this tells you all diversions today
http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/ServiceAlterations/RoadworksandEvents/BUPAHalfMarathonBirmingham.aspx
I did see this 101E a few years back, not seen one since
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/5740948406/
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 20, 2013, 10:59:56 AM
Seen a 16E this morning most likely finishing were the 74/5 turn around. First 16E I've seen
Photo Courtesy of John, credit given: (on the 16E)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/5563790570/
I've only ever seen it once in person, that's when it was in front of a regular 16 service! Then my other 'untimetabled' encounters are the 101E, which terminates at Grove Lane, it was only when there was too much traffic that the 101 came in groups of 4, in the City!
My second ones are the 24E which terminates at Four Dwellings, probabaly due to the delay? ??? They do usually turn up late during snowing season though, that's when some 24E services appear... Coincidental? I think not...
Just seen a 4H to West Bromwich leaving Halesowen, well about 17:25
I still see a 94E regularly. Always at the same time. Can't remember if it's just after 3pm or 4pm in the City Centre.
Another lesser seen 'E', although timetabled are the two late night 14E to Lawley Middleway
I know it's not an NX working, but saw a Diamond bus coming down Moor Street this evening displaying "16E Hockley". May well have happened before but looked so weird
Quote from: Kevin on October 21, 2013, 09:47:52 PM
I know it's not an NX working, but saw a Diamond bus coming down Moor Street this evening displaying "16E Hockley". May well have happened before but looked so weird
Seen a Diamond bus with an E working before, but as you say it does look unusual.
Quote from: Kevin on October 21, 2013, 09:47:52 PM
I know it's not an NX working, but saw a Diamond bus coming down Moor Street this evening displaying "16E Hockley". May well have happened before but looked so weird
See this quite often usually mornings
They layover on other side of flyover
Spotted this morning at 8.55 in Cotteridge was a 45E heading in the Birmingham direction displaying 45E Selly Park - Dogpool Lane.
Never spotted that one before.
Today in the morning, where all the Harborne Services were late due to roadworks, there were 2 24's which showed up.
One of which was the 24E, which read:
Tesco Store 24E, then alternated to
Quinton
Ridgacre Road 24E
Quote from: clayderman on October 23, 2013, 10:32:35 PM
Today in the morning, where all the Harborne Services were late due to roadworks, there were 2 24's which showed up.
One of which was the 24E, which read:
Tesco Store 24E, then alternated to
Quinton
Ridgacre Road 24E
Should say Quinton Bus Garage 24E ;)
This is how the displays looked, changed and alternated.
Possibly not a short or untimetabled working, but a 4 to 'Delves' came into West Brom yesterday, not seen that before.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/101550299@N05/10463201743/lightbox/
Quote from: N94 on October 24, 2013, 11:25:39 PM
Possibly not a short or untimetabled working, but a 4 to 'Delves' came into West Brom yesterday, not seen that before.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/101550299@N05/10463201743/lightbox/
I have seen this one once before, when the 404 was at West Brom.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/5666424798/
It Terminates at Walstead Road, where the 405 crosses the 404 route. I don't think it is timetabled, as I have not seen it since, maybe there was a lot of traffic in Walsall, or the bus was running late
On that same day, I also saw this 404E to Stone Cross. I have never seen a Stone Cross working in the day before
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/5666429752/
Obviously all the numbers have changed now!
4351 left as an 141E to Five Ways from Merry Hill
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/10693095265/in/photostream/
Maybe because the 141 was two buses late this morning. (Both the 10.15 and 10.45 from Birmingham did not turn up this morning)
Quote from: John on November 05, 2013, 05:28:09 PM
4351 left as an 141E to Five Ways from Merry Hill
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/10693095265/in/photostream/
Maybe because the 141 was two buses late this morning. (Both the 10.15 and 10.45 from Birmingham did not turn up this morning)
And the award for the worst looking NXWM bus goes too.....
And from the looks of it the passengers boarding seem a little confused about the whole thing as well
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on November 05, 2013, 06:15:17 PM
And the award for the worst looking NXWM bus goes too.....
The worst of the lot of these wrap livery buses is 4259. If you see it from the passenger side behind the doors, the lot of it has come away, so you can see the stripes on the TWM low floor livery where the vinyl has come away
Quote from: John on November 05, 2013, 08:35:02 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on November 05, 2013, 06:15:17 PM
And the award for the worst looking NXWM bus goes too.....
The worst of the lot of these wrap livery buses is 4259. If you see it from the passenger side behind the doors, the lot of it has come away, so you can see the stripes on the TWM low floor livery where the vinyl has come away
I was just about to post that but I forgot the fleet number. That is a serious state! If that was Wmpte I'm sure it wouldn't of been allowed on the road.
YW 18 is running all over the place this morning, 4 in convoy heading towards Yardley at about 9 4375 terminated as a 18E in Northfield, any ideas where this would have turned round?
I saw a 29E to Weoley Castle at around 15.51? I couldn't see the display...
Quote from: clayderman on November 06, 2013, 06:08:43 PM
I saw a 29E to Weoley Castle at around 15.51? I couldn't see the display...
Saw this in Harborne at 4pm.
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on November 06, 2013, 09:20:23 AM
YW 18 is running all over the place this morning, 4 in convoy heading towards Yardley at about 9 4375 terminated as a 18E in Northfield, any ideas where this would have turned round?
You think thats bad, try 7 Bristol Road buses running all together at 1800~ this evening. Took me 3hours to get home. I'm hlad I weren't driving!!! Would've blew a fuse haha
Serious E workings this evening, all over the place. Selly Oak, Pebble Mill, Northfield, Longbridge, pah!
And that 18 would've turned at further down Bristol Road South at the cut out to re-serve Northfield, or left Great Stone Road, and straight down, normal line of route, to save time on the return journey. Did you see it again in Northfield?
I remember a few weeks ago a 45E from City to Lee Bank Middleway, a 50 short to Bull Ring Markets, a 50 short to Bradford Street/Alcester Road and quite a few 50 shorts to Maypole, Alcester Lanes End and Kings Heath all in one day
Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 06, 2013, 08:28:42 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on November 06, 2013, 09:20:23 AM
YW 18 is running all over the place this morning, 4 in convoy heading towards Yardley at about 9 4375 terminated as a 18E in Northfield, any ideas where this would have turned round?
You think thats bad, try 7 Bristol Road buses running all together at 1800~ this evening. Took me 3hours to get home. I'm hlad I weren't driving!!! Would've blew a fuse haha
Serious E workings this evening, all over the place. Selly Oak, Pebble Mill, Northfield, Longbridge, pah!
And that 18 would've turned at further down Bristol Road South at the cut out to re-serve Northfield, or left Great Stone Road, and straight down, normal line of route, to save time on the return journey. Did you see it again in Northfield?
It was like that yesterday as well, took 30 minutes to get from town to the university, 10 buses bunched, including 3 more in the Jam behind us and two 144's bunched
Quote from: Dylan4579 on November 06, 2013, 08:35:55 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 06, 2013, 08:28:42 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on November 06, 2013, 09:20:23 AM
YW 18 is running all over the place this morning, 4 in convoy heading towards Yardley at about 9 4375 terminated as a 18E in Northfield, any ideas where this would have turned round?
You think thats bad, try 7 Bristol Road buses running all together at 1800~ this evening. Took me 3hours to get home. I'm hlad I weren't driving!!! Would've blew a fuse haha
Serious E workings this evening, all over the place. Selly Oak, Pebble Mill, Northfield, Longbridge, pah!
And that 18 would've turned at further down Bristol Road South at the cut out to re-serve Northfield, or left Great Stone Road, and straight down, normal line of route, to save time on the return journey. Did you see it again in Northfield?
It was like that yesterday as well, took 30 minutes to get from town to the university, 10 buses bunched, including 3 more in the Jam behind us and two 144's bunched
Quote from: Dylan4579 on November 06, 2013, 08:35:55 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 06, 2013, 08:28:42 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on November 06, 2013, 09:20:23 AM
YW 18 is running all over the place this morning, 4 in convoy heading towards Yardley at about 9 4375 terminated as a 18E in Northfield, any ideas where this would have turned round?
You think thats bad, try 7 Bristol Road buses running all together at 1800~ this evening. Took me 3hours to get home. I'm hlad I weren't driving!!! Would've blew a fuse haha
Serious E workings this evening, all over the place. Selly Oak, Pebble Mill, Northfield, Longbridge, pah!
And that 18 would've turned at further down Bristol Road South at the cut out to re-serve Northfield, or left Great Stone Road, and straight down, normal line of route, to save time on the return journey. Did you see it again in Northfield?
It was like that yesterday as well, took 30 minutes to get from town to the university, 10 buses bunched, including 3 more in the Jam behind us and two 144's bunched
Dylan, its totally disgusting. Birmingham City Council need to do something about the traffic. As if you have any knowledge then you'll know its due to unsynchronised traffic lights. Yes, traffic should be heavier in rush hours, but not gridlocked.
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YW 18 is running all over the place this morning, 4 in convoy heading towards Yardley at about 9 4375 terminated as a 18E in Northfield, any ideas where this would have turned round?
You think thats bad, try 7 Bristol Road buses running all together at 1800~ this evening. Took me 3hours to get home. I'm hlad I weren't driving!!! Would've blew a fuse haha
Serious E workings this evening, all over the place. Selly Oak, Pebble Mill, Northfield, Longbridge, pah!
And that 18 would've turned at further down Bristol Road South at the cut out to re-serve Northfield, or left Great Stone Road, and straight down, normal line of route, to save time on the return journey. Did you see it again in Northfield?
It was like that yesterday as well, took 30 minutes to get from town to the university, 10 buses bunched, including 3 more in the Jam behind us and two 144's bunched
Dylan, its totally disgusting. Birmingham City Council need to do something about the traffic. As if you have any knowledge then you'll know its due to unsynchronised traffic lights. Yes, traffic should be heavier in rush hours, but not gridlocked.
If you have any enquiries regarding traffic management please telephone Highways Customer Service on 0121 303 6644 (Monday to Friday 8am to 8pm) where they will endevour to deal with
and ignore your comments.
Two workings i saw tonight in Wolverhampton that i don't think are timetabled:
Saw 2022 displaying a 2 to Bushbury Showell Circus (Only ever seen this one during the snow)
Also saw 4016 on a 11 displaying 11E to Fallings Park (Also only ever seen it during the heavy snow diversions)
yesterday there was a 63E running to Selly Oak
Spotted 60E terminating at Yardley Swan Centre coming from Cranes Park. Possible contender for the shortest journey done on NX bus?
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Spotted 60E terminating at Yardley Swan Centre coming from Cranes Park. Possible contender for the shortest journey done on NX bus?
Nope, 400 from west brom to Sandwell Valley for any shows going on there surely wins that
98E to QE Hospital, Main Entrance
904E to Sutton Coldfeild around 1ish. Only shorts to sutton happen evenings and sundays
824 on a X96 short to Dudley.
98E to Rednal, live at the terminus and haven't seen one of those for a while, was told in August that the 98 doesn't do untimetabled Es anymore
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98E to Rednal, live at the terminus and haven't seen one of those for a while, was told in August that the 98 doesn't do untimetabled Es anymore
The first one on Sunday morning is a 98E to Rednal
21E to Whitley
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98E to Rednal, live at the terminus and haven't seen one of those for a while, was told in August that the 98 doesn't do untimetabled Es anymore
The first one on Sunday morning is a 98E to Rednal
The first 98 everyday is an E to Rednal, just got one home (as per usual, I was the only person on it, shame the Longbridge development didn't go through with NX's offer to build a garage in Longbridge!), I meant untimetabled 98Es, as these are no longer AVL monitored
Longbridge?
Depending on the size, would that have been additional to Yardley Wood (next nearest? ) or replacing it?
I was under the impression more capacity was needed in the north of the city (Perry Barr? ) than the south!
What routes would Longbridge have taken up apart from the south west of city routes?
I recall that rumour of a garage at Longbridge going back at least 10years. Supposed to be a new 'super garage' replacing a couple of existing garages.
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Longbridge?
What routes would Longbridge have taken up apart from the south west of city routes?
Possibly Bristol Road and Pershore Road, maybe some other South Birmingham routes such as 18, 49, 84, 98/X64
Perry Barr could have then transferred the Sutton Lines, or a few other of their Birmingham routes to Central to relieve capacity at Perry Barr
Just saw a 904E to "Chester Road The Yenton" heading north through Erdington
905E to Erdington (early morning)
71E to Chelmsley Wood from Sutton around 12ish
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905E to Erdington (early morning)
71E to Chelmsley Wood from Sutton around 12ish
From what I've seen the 71 doesn't seem that reliable with the new timetable - seen a few 71Es to Minworth from Solihull and 71s following each other
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From what I've seen the 71 doesn't seem that reliable with the new timetable - seen a few 71Es to Minworth from Solihull and 71s following each other
I was driving through Minworth Saturday afternoon, there were 2 following each other then as well, then another one about 10 minutes behind those
so what's the 72's like since there frequency upgrade ?
09.32 48 from WB is 35 mins late, so now running as a 48E to the QE.
Saw a 936E to Pheasey Church this morning from Birmingham
I saw 4201 on a 141E working to Quinton Stag from Birmingham this afternoon, may or may not be timetabled.
4197 was on a 246E to Russells Hall Hospital earlier.
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4187 was on a 246E to Russells Hall Hospital earlier.
Not uncommon these days, am surprised that garage journeys don't terminate at Russells Hall rather than either Dudley or Stourbridge to cut down on dead mileage.
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905E to Erdington (early morning)
71E to Chelmsley Wood from Sutton around 12ish
From what I've seen the 71 doesn't seem that reliable with the new timetable - seen a few 71Es to Minworth from Solihull and 71s following each other
I think the 71's trouble are a lot to do the roadworks on the A452 Chester Road, been some terrible q's on the roads near the M6 Junction 5, recently including tonight. Doesn't look like it's going to get any better with winter coming. Also eveytime their is an incident on the m6 it effects all of them 71,28 & 966 etc.
5E to Coundon?
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5E to Coundon?
That's a daily working ;):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/madabouttransport/8529115898/in/set-72157632910187574
101E to Grove Lane
4446 - 61E Northfeild
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4446 - 61E Northfeild
That seems to happen very regually with buses going out of service in Northfield.
The other week 4364 came into Northfield (Bound for Birmingham) Not In Service the changed to a 63 as it reached the bus stop
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4446 - 61E Northfeild
That seems to happen very regually with buses going out of service in Northfield.
The other week 4364 came into Northfield (Bound for Birmingham) Not In Service the changed to a 63 as it reached the bus stop
As you said that's a regular peak time adjustment. Still good to note though.
(Not to be confused with Schools Service Extra)
I witnessed this during the middle of the day...
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I witnessed this during the middle of the day...
Icy...
The only thing I can think of is Priory Road and Belgrave Middleway have been roadworked so thus causing lateness.
58E ? Didn't see where to
47E Stirchley Co-Op,
After asking the driver he says 'AVL adjustment; I'm over 1.5hours down'
After going to city, I find why. Gridlocked. Its half 4 in the afternoon and bedlam!
Although I know for a fact turning at Co-op he'll still be late as that wouldn't save 1.5hours.
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Spotted 60E terminating at Yardley Swan Centre coming from Cranes Park. Possible contender for the shortest journey done on NX bus?
Nope, 400 from west brom to Sandwell Valley for any shows going on there surely wins that
When Lea Hall operated the 97 I used to see quite a few journeys operating just from Chelmsley Wood to the Mackadown. Also think I saw a 14 from Tile Cross to Lea Hall garage back in the day.
Although timetabled, back in 2006/7, there used to be an early morning 14E from City to Lea Hall Garage. I wonder if this is now what is the short to Tile Cross run by Enviro 200s sometimes.
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Spotted 60E terminating at Yardley Swan Centre coming from Cranes Park. Possible contender for the shortest journey done on NX bus?
Nope, 400 from west brom to Sandwell Valley for any shows going on there surely wins that
When Lea Hall operated the 97 I used to see quite a few journeys operating just from Chelmsley Wood to the Mackadown. Also think I saw a 14 from Tile Cross to Lea Hall garage back in the day.
Once, one evening, whilst waiting in Solihull Town Centre, I saw a 37E to Olton Station. ::)
On saturday:
4698 - 16E to Hamstead Village... There was a bunch up of 16's (4 at the markets)
The others were 16 but consisted of:
-x2 B7TL ALX400's
-x1 Scania Omnicity Single Decker
and of course, thse short journey on 4698
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On saturday:
4698 - 16E to Hamstead Village... There was a bunch up of 16's (4 at the markets)
The others were 16 but consisted of:
-x2 B7TL ALX400's
-x1 Scania Omnicity Single Decker
and of course, thse short journey on 4698
I assume you mean a Scania Omnilink, which is on the 16 daily, because an Omnicity Single Decker would be rare...
808 on the 99E to Quinton Stag, how many mins late would that have been ?
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808 on the 99E to Quinton Stag, how many mins late would that have been ?
Most 99s have 7 minutes layover time at Halesowen and with that route being so tightly timed, they would probably turn it if its running more than 10 minutes late.
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808 on the 99E to Quinton Stag, how many mins late would that have been ?
Most 99s have 7 minutes layover time at Halesowen and with that route being so tightly timed, they would probably turn it if its running more than 10 minutes late.
It could be more like 20minutes late as AVL instructions (I'm told) is the service needs to be more then half of the frequency after leaving the outer. Therefore:
20minute delay - (7minute Stag to Halesowen, + 7 minute drop back + 7 minute Halesowen to Stag) = 1minute early back at the Stag to city
809 left Birmingham at 2.08 this afternoon on a 99E to Quinton, The Stag
246E - Brierly Hill
Rode a 244E to Netherton this evening, changed to a 243 to Merry Hill on arrival at Netherton.
I saw a 46** trident on the 45E to Cotteridge today. The rear display alternated showing '45E' and the last bit of the word 'Cotteridge'.
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I saw a 46** trident on the 45E to Cotteridge today. The rear display alternated showing '45E' and the last bit of the word 'Cotteridge'.
You'll find it should show;
45E - Cot - ter - idge
Unlike Arriva, it doesn't scroll. Just changes per 'slide'
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I saw a 46** trident on the 45E to Cotteridge today. The rear display alternated showing '45E' and the last bit of the word 'Cotteridge'.
You'll find it should show;
45E - Cot - ter - idge
Unlike Arriva, it doesn't scroll. Just changes per 'slide'
I don't understand what the point is, that would take a while to get back to the route number while showing separate parts of the destination. Wouldn't it be easier just toggling between the route number and destination, like WB, PE and WN LEDs used to? So it would read '45E' - 'C'ridge'
126E - Burnt Tree Junction
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126E - Burnt Tree Junction
:o What on earth is the point of the 126 terminating at Burnt Tree Junction, Dudley is only 2 minutes up the road? :o :o :o :o
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126E - Burnt Tree Junction
From which direction, Birmingham or Wolverhampton?
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126E - Burnt Tree Junction
From which direction, Birmingham or Wolverhampton?
Birmingham
That is really wierd as all drivers on the 126 only do one trip, so the driver would have to go to Wolverhampton anyway and would not turn back to come to Birmingham, so it seems strange not to send him into Dudley Bus Station before running private to make time up
Very strange indeed, presume it terminated where the 126 and 74/87 meet opposite Tesco and then carried on into Dudley anyway! What a weird decision
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126E - Burnt Tree Junction
From which direction, Birmingham or Wolverhampton?
Birmingham
That is really wierd as all drivers on the 126 only do one trip, so the driver would have to go to Wolverhampton anyway and would not turn back to come to Birmingham, so it seems strange not to send him into Dudley Bus Station before running private to make time up
I was on a 126E to Five ways at 6..30 tonight, and I saw a 126E to Burnt Tree at that time as well.
are there supposed to be 87E's to Oldbury coming from Birmingham?
I know there are timetabled ones from Dudley during the evening, but this one was during the day.
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are there supposed to be 87E's to Oldbury coming from Birmingham?
I know there are timetabled ones from Dudley during the evening, but this one was during the day.
The first 87 of the day is from everyday is from Oldbury. There are no timetabled Oldbury to Birmingham workings during the day
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126E - Burnt Tree Junction
From which direction, Birmingham or Wolverhampton?
Birmingham
That is really wierd as all drivers on the 126 only do one trip, so the driver would have to go to Wolverhampton anyway and would not turn back to come to Birmingham, so it seems strange not to send him into Dudley Bus Station before running private to make time up
Although running as a E to Burnt Tree you can run straight up the Birmingham new road dead without having to faf around in Dudley.
4903 on 60E Birmingham-Yardley Swan photo took on ipod
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4903 on 60E Birmingham-Yardley Swan photo took on ipod
That's not really untimetabled is it? On Sundays, 60 and 60E runs alternatively every 10 minutes.
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4903 on 60E Birmingham-Yardley Swan photo took on ipod
That's not really untimetabled is it? On Sundays, 60 and 60E runs alternatively every 10 minutes.
Does the 60E terminate at Swan Island? Or does it go forward to the McDonalds and turn around there?
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4903 on 60E Birmingham-Yardley Swan photo took on ipod
That's not really untimetabled is it? On Sundays, 60 and 60E runs alternatively every 10 minutes.
Does the 60E terminate at Swan Island? Or does it go forward to the McDonalds and turn around there?
I've seen them turn at the U-turn by Clay Lane and at the lights at Gilbertstone Ave
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126E - Burnt Tree Junction
From which direction, Birmingham or Wolverhampton?
Birmingham
That is really wierd as all drivers on the 126 only do one trip, so the driver would have to go to Wolverhampton anyway and would not turn back to come to Birmingham, so it seems strange not to send him into Dudley Bus Station before running private to make time up
i was thinking about thiis, did it terminate at Burnt Tree and then go straight down the New Road to get back to Wolverhampton quick, going into Dudley and terminating would have added a good ten minutes on.
2E to Showell Circus, Bushbury leaving Wolverhampton at about 16:15 today.
46E to Aston via Lozells (odd destination!) or even new one hmm
33E to Perry Barr Bus Garage
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46E to Aston via Lozells (odd destination!) or even new one hmm
33E to Perry Barr Bus Garage
Happens every weekday from both Birmingham & Pheasey :). Weekends I think its just Pheasey :)
and were would the 46E have turned around ?
98E - QE Hosp
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46E to Aston via Lozells (odd destination!) or even new one hmm
33E to Perry Barr Bus Garage
Happens every weekday from both Birmingham & Pheasey :). Weekends I think its just Pheasey :)
and were would the 46E have turned around ?
98E - QE Hosp
It said
Aston
via Lozells
46 or 46E
makes no sense
Unless the drivers accidently put up the wrong destination from when the 46 ran through to Aston Via Perry Barr
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2E to Showell Circus, Bushbury leaving Wolverhampton at about 16:15 today.
Saw that one the other week. First time i saw a 2E to Showell Circus was when buses were turned short during the heavy snow
i once saw a 529 (Branded Trident) in Wolverhampton working a 529E to Willenhall. (Thought it was timetabled but looking at the timetable i can't see any
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46E to Aston via Lozells (odd destination!) or even new one hmm
33E to Perry Barr Bus Garage
Happens every weekday from both Birmingham & Pheasey :). Weekends I think its just Pheasey :)
and were would the 46E have turned around ?
98E - QE Hosp
It said
Aston
via Lozells
46 or 46E
makes no sense
The 98E is a timetabled short working leaving Birmingham at 3.42pm
Maybe the 46E terminated at Trinity Road/Heathfield Road, under the overpass, and turned right onto Birchfield Road to quickly head back into Birmingham (Late running)
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Unless the drivers accidently put up the wrong destination from when the 46 ran through to Aston Via Perry Barr
Didnt realised it was still programmed
Usually it says Six Ways Aston via Perry Barr
then via Astonand Lozells on a separate page with no route number
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Unless the drivers accidently put up the wrong destination from when the 46 ran through to Aston Via Perry Barr
Didnt realised it was still programmed
Usually it says Six Ways Aston via Perry Barr
then via Astonand Lozells on a separate page with no route number
Yeah thats what I thought, but just "46E Aston via Lozells"? Definately never seen that.
Can't imagine it terminating on the Birchfield Rd cause that isn't really Aston is it? Also can't imagine it being Six Ways because then it isn't really "via" Lozells.... intriguing...
Plenty of untimetabled short workings heading up Broad Street in convoy from City at around 8.50 this morning, presumably because of the ridiculous traffic conditions again. These included a WN Trident on the 126E to Dudley via Roseville (not actually correct), 5409 on a 22E to California, Barnes Hill, and 4179 on a 24E to Four Dwellings.
Close behind these three was either WN 4536 or 4538, Not in Service.
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Plenty of untimetabled short workings heading up Broad Street in convoy from City at around 8.50 this morning, presumably because of the ridiculous traffic conditions again. These included a WN Trident on the 126E to Dudley via Roseville (not actually correct), 5409 on a 22E to California, Barnes Hill, and 4179 on a 24E to Four Dwellings.
Close behind these three was either WN 4536 or 4538, Not in Service.
Would have been 4538 as 4536 wasn't on the 126 and i saw 4538 on there at lunch time
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Plenty of untimetabled short workings heading up Broad Street in convoy from City at around 8.50 this morning, presumably because of the ridiculous traffic conditions again. These included a WN Trident on the 126E to Dudley via Roseville (not actually correct), 5409 on a 22E to California, Barnes Hill, and 4179 on a 24E to Four Dwellings.
Close behind these three was either WN 4536 or 4538, Not in Service.
Would have been 4538 as 4536 wasn't on the 126 and i saw 4538 on there at lunch time
Which route was 4536 on?
Also, the other giveaway would be that 4538 has the older shades of red/white, and 4536 the newer shades.
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Plenty of untimetabled short workings heading up Broad Street in convoy from City at around 8.50 this morning, presumably because of the ridiculous traffic conditions again. These included a WN Trident on the 126E to Dudley via Roseville (not actually correct), 5409 on a 22E to California, Barnes Hill, and 4179 on a 24E to Four Dwellings.
Close behind these three was either WN 4536 or 4538, Not in Service.
Would have been 4538 as 4536 wasn't on the 126 and i saw 4538 on there at lunch time
Which route was 4536 on?
Also, the other giveaway would be that 4538 has the older shades of red/white, and 4536 the newer shades.
I was driving in the opposite direction at the time and only saw it quickly, so no time to take in the finer details I'm afraid.
All Harborne and Hagley Rd services seemed badly affected by traffic this morning.
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Plenty of untimetabled short workings heading up Broad Street in convoy from City at around 8.50 this morning, presumably because of the ridiculous traffic conditions again. These included a WN Trident on the 126E to Dudley via Roseville (not actually correct), 5409 on a 22E to California, Barnes Hill, and 4179 on a 24E to Four Dwellings.
Close behind these three was either WN 4536 or 4538, Not in Service.
Would have been 4538 as 4536 wasn't on the 126 and i saw 4538 on there at lunch time
Which route was 4536 on?
Also, the other giveaway would be that 4538 has the older shades of red/white, and 4536 the newer shades.
I was driving in the opposite direction at the time and only saw it quickly, so no time to take in the finer details I'm afraid.
All Harborne and Hagley Rd services seemed badly affected by traffic this morning.
A long way down the Hagley Road I know, but I noticed this morning Manor Way by my stop was even more clogged with traffic than usual (strangely in the direction heading out of Birmingham!)
33E to Kingstanding. It wouldn't be running that late if its finishing at Kingstanding can it ? Or is it a case if he went to the pheasey he would be late ?
May have been mentioned before but saw a 71E to Minworth when going to JS earlier about 1430, must be Chester Road delays as then on the other side two 67's runnning together and both DD's a ALx400 and A Gemi..... Those are my powers of observation whilst in the car.
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33E to Kingstanding. It wouldn't be running that late if its finishing at Kingstanding can it ? Or is it a case if he went to the pheasey he would be late ?
Don't forget as the 33 is such a frequent service, it only has to be 7/8 minutes late for a bus to effectively 'be missed out'. Once two buses have joined together, it makes sense to turn the late one slightly short to get it back on time.
Obviously, on a half hourly route for instance, an 8 minute delay is probably considered 'acceptable', rather than have a one hour gap in the service on the part of the route missed out.
8E - Ladywood
936E to Short Street, were is this ?
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 29, 2013, 06:04:01 PM
936E to Short Street, were is this ?
Brownhills by the looks of it, the road that the 936 used to turn around in Brownhills to point the other way on the High Street to start the return journey to Birmingham. Google maps is very useful
There is a Short Street, in Walsall Town Centre as well, but it can not be this one
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 29, 2013, 06:04:01 PM
936E to Short Street, were is this ?
There's a Short Street in Brownhills, but I think that's pretty much where the 936 terminates anyway?
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936E to Short Street, were is this ?
Brownhills by the looks of it, the road that the 936 used to turn around in Brownhills to point the other way on the High Street to start the return journey to Birmingham. Google maps is very useful
There is a Short Street, in Walsall Town Centre as well, but it can not be this one
That can't be that far from the terminus can it?
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936E to Short Street, were is this ?
Brownhills by the looks of it, the road that the 936 used to turn around in Brownhills to point the other way on the High Street to start the return journey to Birmingham. Google maps is very useful
There is a Short Street, in Walsall Town Centre as well, but it can not be this one
That can't be that far from the terminus can it?
I think Short Street is where the 936 parks up and lays over in Brownhills before starting back off to Birmingham.
A very strange 'E' working, I don't know if this means that it will not do a return journey to Birmingham, instead leaving 'Not In Service'. That is the only reason I can think off
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936E to Short Street, were is this ?
Brownhills by the looks of it, the road that the 936 used to turn around in Brownhills to point the other way on the High Street to start the return journey to Birmingham. Google maps is very useful
There is a Short Street, in Walsall Town Centre as well, but it can not be this one
That can't be that far from the terminus can it?
I think Short Street is where the 936 parks up and lays over in Brownhills before starting back off to Birmingham.
A very strange 'E' working, I don't know if this means that it will not do a return journey to Birmingham, instead leaving 'Not In Service'. That is the only reason I can think off
I thought where it finished was Church Road before heading back into Birmingham just behind the high street, and looking at the route info on the bottom of the timetable 'Short Street' isn't on there
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936E to Short Street, were is this ?
Brownhills by the looks of it, the road that the 936 used to turn around in Brownhills to point the other way on the High Street to start the return journey to Birmingham. Google maps is very useful
There is a Short Street, in Walsall Town Centre as well, but it can not be this one
That can't be that far from the terminus can it?
I think Short Street is where the 936 parks up and lays over in Brownhills before starting back off to Birmingham.
A very strange 'E' working, I don't know if this means that it will not do a return journey to Birmingham, instead leaving 'Not In Service'. That is the only reason I can think off
I thought where it finished was Church Road before heading back into Birmingham just behind the high street, and looking at the route info on the bottom of the timetable 'Short Street' isn't on there
Short Street is at the end of Church Street, after turning left off Brownhills High Street, onto Church Street, the 936 will then turn right at the crossroads onto Short Street (it runs parallel with the High Street)
No passengers would be on the bus on Short Street (the last stop is on the high street), that is why it won't be on the timetable
1E this evening to Sedgley from wolverhampton, only ever seen this when the snow is bad.
Saw a 17E to 'The Radleys' in Birmingham about 14:10/15 today. Not familiar with the route so don't know if its timetabled or not
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 29, 2013, 07:30:44 PM
Saw a 17E to 'The Radleys' in Birmingham about 14:10/15 today. Not familiar with the route so don't know if its timetabled or not
No they're not timetabled. I do see them occasionally, must be due to late running
Quote from: John on November 29, 2013, 07:33:20 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 29, 2013, 07:30:44 PM
Saw a 17E to 'The Radleys' in Birmingham about 14:10/15 today. Not familiar with the route so don't know if its timetabled or not
No they're not timetabled. I do see them occasionally, must be due to late running
Well the 17 isn't a route i really know or infact take intestest in. Thanks for that info :)
saw a 120E to Bearwood about 4:30ish in Birmingham ... that quite unusual where would it turn in Bearwood?
Quote from: OH25 on November 29, 2013, 08:25:41 PM
saw a 120E to Bearwood about 4:30ish in Birmingham ... that quite unusual where would it turn in Bearwood?
It might have unloaded at the 11A stop on Rutland Road, turned right onto Bearwood High Street, then right at the lights back onto Sandon Road to head back into Birmingham
Are 141E Quinton (Church) timetabled?
Quote from: vinh1000 on November 29, 2013, 08:36:41 PM
Are 141E Quinton (Church) timetabled?
No, there is only one late night timetabled 'E' working to Bearwood from Merry Hill Mon-Sat, last journey from Merry Hill
Which direction was it coming from?
E's all over the place with the Pershore this evening. Belgrave, Dogpool, Stirchley Co-Op, Cotteridge, West Heath;; the lot. Didn't make apth of a difference reference my earlier post!
Quote from: John on November 29, 2013, 08:38:47 PM
Quote from: vinh1000 on November 29, 2013, 08:36:41 PM
Are 141E Quinton (Church) timetabled?
No, there is only one late night timetabled 'E' working to Bearwood from Merry Hill Mon-Sat, last journey from Merry Hill
Which direction was it coming from?
Birmingham out
Saw 71E to Castle Bromwich few days ago, and today I saw 17E going to Bordesley Circus (going in the direction of Birmingham after the circus) and 37E to Bullring markets.
Quote from: :D on November 29, 2013, 09:46:37 PM
Saw 71E to Castle Bromwich few days ago, and today I saw 17E going to Bordesley Circus (going in the direction of Birmingham after the circus) and 37E to Bullring markets.
A lot of Solihull routes can work 'E's to Bull Ring Markets. I have seen the 5, 6, 37 and 957s use this working before.
All of the Birmingham to Solihull routes (but not 70 or 72) may be able to use this short working if they need to
Quote from: OH25 on November 29, 2013, 08:25:41 PM
saw a 120E to Bearwood about 4:30ish in Birmingham ... that quite unusual where would it turn in Bearwood?
120E to Langley Merrivale at around 17.30 on Colmore Row.
Quote from: Mike K on November 29, 2013, 10:01:41 PM
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saw a 120E to Bearwood about 4:30ish in Birmingham ... that quite unusual where would it turn in Bearwood?
120E to Langley Merrivale at around 17.30 on Colmore Row.
This is a usually working for Monday-Friday. Peak time short workings only go as far as the Merrivale
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saw a 120E to Bearwood about 4:30ish in Birmingham ... that quite unusual where would it turn in Bearwood?
120E to Langley Merrivale at around 17.30 on Colmore Row.
This is a usually working for Monday-Friday. Peak time short workings only go as far as the Merrivale
Ok, not really noticed it before.
5E - Hall Green at about 4ish, for a short working the lower deck was quite full
Traffic congestion in Birmingham City centre today as produced a 94E to Aran way and a 907E to beggars bush.
Quote from: Gareth on December 01, 2013, 01:11:55 PM
Traffic congestion in Birmingham City centre today as produced a 94E to Aran way and a 907E to beggars bush.
Surprise surprise.. congestion again!!!
The Hagley Road has ground to a standstill due to a 4-way control, causing havoc with the 9, 120, 126, 140 & 141. Every bus is running late (to the point you can't tell which board it's on).
4814 left the city centre on a 141E to Halesowen at 11:35. My 9, 4828, was 25-30 minutes late, but was instructed to carry on without turning short anywhere.
The delay caused by the 4-way control is much longer than the layover most services have, so buses are going to keep getting later.
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 01, 2013, 01:25:01 PM
The Hagley Road has ground to a standstill due to a 4-way control, causing havoc with the 9, 120, 126, 140 & 141. Every bus is running late (to the point you can't tell which board it's on).
4814 left the city centre on a 141E to Halesowen at 11:35. My 9, 4828, was 25-30 minutes late, but was instructed to carry on without turning short anywhere.
The delay caused by the 4-way control is much longer than the layover most services have, so buses are going to keep getting later.
Was wondering why the 126 left 15-20 minutes late from Wolverhampton this morning
Also seen, a 33E to Perry Barr and a 3E to Haslucks Green Road. But unsure if that's a normal Sunday working.
Quote from: Gareth on December 01, 2013, 02:24:54 PM
Also seen, a 33E to Perry Barr and a 3E to Haslucks Green Road. But unsure if that's a normal Sunday working.
Saw these too... 4844 was the 33E, and it was one of those Ex-PB toothpaste Enviros.
4844 started work on the 33E at Moor Street from 14:42
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Also seen, a 33E to Perry Barr and a 3E to Haslucks Green Road. But unsure if that's a normal Sunday working.
Saw these too... 4844 was the 33E, and it was one of those Ex-PB toothpaste Enviros.
4844 started work on the 33E at Moor Street from 14:42
I saw that exact departure, by the Square Peg
Also just before then I saw 4539 on a 126E to Edgbaston, Five Ways.
Quote from: Gareth on December 01, 2013, 02:24:54 PM
Also seen, a 33E to Perry Barr and a 3E to Haslucks Green Road. But unsure if that's a normal Sunday working.
The 3E on Sunday normally runs up as far as Robin Hood Island. They used to show 'Hall Green Tesco' as the destination, but I've seen lately on the evening peak shorts that it shows 'Hall Green' with the lower line alternating between 'Robin Hood Island' and 'Short Journey'. Don't know if it should be the same for Sundays too.
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Also seen, a 33E to Perry Barr and a 3E to Haslucks Green Road. But unsure if that's a normal Sunday working.
The 3E on Sunday normally runs up as far as Robin Hood Island. They used to show 'Hall Green Tesco' as the destination, but I've seen lately on the evening peak shorts that it shows 'Hall Green' with the lower line alternating between 'Robin Hood Island' and 'Short Journey'. Don't know if it should be the same for Sundays too.
According to the timetable, it terminates at Stratford Rd/ Haslucks Green Rd. I saw a toothpaste enviro 400 laying over at the bus stop there this afternoon.
today I saw a 141E in a Bearwood but didn't see where it was terminating
but it was closely followed by the 141 doing the full route
Quote from: OH25 on December 01, 2013, 09:44:17 PM
today I saw a 141E in a Bearwood but didn't see where it was terminating
but it was closely followed by the 141 doing the full route
Which direction was it going?
74E to Dudley Port Railway Station
No idea how it is meant to turn around there
Usually its 74E to island road handsworth or west Bromwich bus station
Quote from: vinh1000 on December 02, 2013, 09:04:07 AM
74E to Dudley Port Railway Station
No idea how it is meant to turn around there
Usually its 74E to island road handsworth or west Bromwich bus station
Would probably travel along Dudley Road East to get back to the Bus Garage
Quote from: vinh1000 on December 02, 2013, 09:04:07 AM
74E to Dudley Port Railway Station
No idea how it is meant to turn around there
Usually its 74E to island road handsworth or west Bromwich bus station
There is the triangle just before you get to Dudley Port where you can turn around
Unidentified Eclipse on the 311E, Dudley to Wednesbury earlier!
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 01, 2013, 11:03:11 PM
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today I saw a 141E in a Bearwood but didn't see where it was terminating
but it was closely followed by the 141 doing the full route
Which direction was it going?
It was going towards Quinton
934E - Pheasey, that's down to it being 32 minutes late
952E - never seen this route before except at High Street at about 1815...
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 03, 2013, 10:02:02 PM
952E - never seen this route before except at High Street at about 1815...
To Hassop Road?
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952E - never seen this route before except at High Street at about 1815...
To Hassop Road?
You've got it; but looking at the timetable that's where the 952 finishes anyway?
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952E - never seen this route before except at High Street at about 1815...
To Hassop Road?
You've got it; but looking at the timetable that's where the 952 finishes anyway?
It runs in a loop around its Great Barr termination. I think the 952E serves to Hassop Road and runs back to the garage/goes out of service
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952E - never seen this route before except at High Street at about 1815...
To Hassop Road?
You've got it; but looking at the timetable that's where the 952 finishes anyway?
It runs in a loop around its Great Barr termination. I think the 952E serves to Hassop Road and runs back to the garage/goes out of service
Ahh, thanks for the clarification.
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952E - never seen this route before except at High Street at about 1815...
To Hassop Road?
You've got it; but looking at the timetable that's where the 952 finishes anyway?
It runs in a loop around its Great Barr termination. I think the 952E serves to Hassop Road and runs back to the garage/goes out of service
Is it the same as the 952H timetabled service also?
Quote from: vinh1000 on December 04, 2013, 08:17:39 AM
Is it the same as the 952H timetabled service also?
It would appear they've renumbered the 952H to 952E, cause I've seen a lot of them suddenly these past few days
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Is it the same as the 952H timetabled service also?
It would appear they've renumbered the 952H to 952E, cause I've seen a lot of them suddenly these past few days
I saw 952H On tuesday.
87E - Cape Hill
Quote from: Kevin on December 04, 2013, 11:02:35 AM
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Is it the same as the 952H timetabled service also?
It would appear they've renumbered the 952H to 952E, cause I've seen a lot of them suddenly these past few days
Not to be confused with the other 952E, Hassop Road - Perry Barr ;D
Walsall 1775 working a 10E to Ogley Hay this morning
Today in Colmore Row at 1245 PE 4802 was working a 9E Quinton Toby Carvery - maybe the driver was going to stop for lunch.
There were another 2 full 9s in Colmore Row at the same time.
Utter chaos on the 9 today, a 4-way control in Colley Gate is causing massive delays. This, coupled with heavy Broad Street traffic due to the German Market, has caused buses running in 3's and many E workings.
I've seen 9E's Birmingham - Halesowen, Stourbridge - Bearwood (King's Head), Stourbridge - Edgbaston (Five Ways) and there were probably more.
4M Merry hill-West Bromwich yesterday
9E to Halesowen followed by 2 full 9's, wasn't sure if this was an extra journey put on or was due to traffic. But with nitromatt1 post it answers my question.
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 07, 2013, 05:47:46 PM
9E to Halesowen followed by 2 full 9's, wasn't sure if this was an extra journey put on or was due to traffic. But with nitromatt1 post it answers my question.
An RTA on Paradise Circus this evening hasn't helped either, and it will now be on the Broad Street diversion too...
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 07, 2013, 04:22:40 PM
Utter chaos on the 9 today, a 4-way control in Colley Gate is causing massive delays. This, coupled with heavy Broad Street traffic due to the German Market, has caused buses running in 3's and many E workings.
I've seen 9E's Birmingham - Halesowen, Stourbridge - Bearwood (King's Head), Stourbridge - Edgbaston (Five Ways) and there were probably more.
Slightly off topic, but why do local councils give permission for road works on a main road where a major bus route runs in the month before christmas.. Surely it could have been done at another time.
Was something happening with the 907 today? I saw at least 3 907E's to Perry Barr and I saw one 907E to New Oscott
Quote from: JB93 on December 08, 2013, 07:56:50 PM
Was something happening with the 907 today? I saw at least 3 907E's to Perry Barr and I saw one 907E to New Oscott
Traffic around New Oscott is notorious, could be that
A 126E! On a Sunday! From Birmingham. Showing 126E - Dudley via Roseville
Quote from: Sh4166 on December 08, 2013, 10:09:50 PM
A 126E! On a Sunday! From Birmingham. Showing 126E - Dudley via Roseville
Which is incorrect, as Rooseville is between Dudley and Wolves (as I'm sure you realised)
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A 126E! On a Sunday! From Birmingham. Showing 126E - Dudley via Roseville
Which is incorrect, as Rooseville is between Dudley and Wolves (as I'm sure you realised)
Yeah, I am thanks, Matt. They must not have Dudley shorts from Birmingham keyed in, which I'm not surprised at. They don't have Londonderry - West Bromwich shorts keyed in on the 46 (just displays West Bromwich via Sandwell Hospital etc.), I wonder why that certain journey was only running to Dudley, seems odd
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A 126E! On a Sunday! From Birmingham. Showing 126E - Dudley via Roseville
Which is incorrect, as Rooseville is between Dudley and Wolves (as I'm sure you realised)
Yeah, I am thanks, Matt. They must not have Dudley shorts from Birmingham keyed in, which I'm not surprised at. They don't have Londonderry - West Bromwich shorts keyed in on the 46 (just displays West Bromwich via Sandwell Hospital etc.), I wonder why that certain journey was only running to Dudley, seems odd
Unless the driver simply selected the wrong option, it seems an easy mistake to make especially if he/she is in a rush
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A 126E! On a Sunday! From Birmingham. Showing 126E - Dudley via Roseville
Which is incorrect, as Rooseville is between Dudley and Wolves (as I'm sure you realised)
Yeah, I am thanks, Matt. They must not have Dudley shorts from Birmingham keyed in, which I'm not surprised at. They don't have Londonderry - West Bromwich shorts keyed in on the 46 (just displays West Bromwich via Sandwell Hospital etc.), I wonder why that certain journey was only running to Dudley, seems odd
Unless the driver simply selected the wrong option, it seems an easy mistake to make especially if he/she is in a rush
I've seen 2 Birmingham to Dudley shorts and they both showed via Roseville so I'm not sure there's another Dudley short option available.
Is a 74E Island Road (from Birmingham) uncommon?
Quote from: N94 on December 09, 2013, 03:37:39 PM
Is a 74E Island Road (from Birmingham) uncommon?
No, they are common timetabled short workings. in the daytime, the 'E' journeys are about every 20 minutes to Island Road from Birmingham.
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Is a 74E Island Road (from Birmingham) uncommon?
No, they are common timetabled short workings. in the daytime, the 'E' journeys are about every 20 minutes to Island Road from Birmingham.
Thanks. Wonder how I've missed them then? I've seen plenty of 74E's to West Brom but never Island Road.
4347 on a 276E to Stourbridge on the Ring Road right behind my 276 ex Norton to Dudley
904e Sutton
Quote from: vinh1000 on December 11, 2013, 07:57:25 AM
904e Sutton
Could that possibly have been the 0753 from Erdington, Six Ways to Sutton (timetabled)?
46E to Hamstead, Green Lane, from Londonderry, Queens Head
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Is a 74E Island Road (from Birmingham) uncommon?
No, they are common timetabled short workings. in the daytime, the 'E' journeys are about every 20 minutes to Island Road from Birmingham.
On my flickr i have one which says 74E dudley port/rail station from birmingham
I think there was a 23E to California yesterday. Definitely a 23E, but i only saw the rear. It is most likely to be going to California, that's where most 23E seem to terminate... (I've only seen a few)
98E - Rednal this morning
Don't 126 Dudley short journeys have '126 Dudley Only' programmed in?
Think 301's in Walsall display '301 Bloxwich Only' & I think 302's can too!
(They must have during the last snow diversions when they only ran to Bloxwich!)
Tony - Is there any reason why 'Via Leamore' can't be displayed on the displays next time there is an update?
Eg '301 Mossley via Leamore, 301 Mossley via Bloxwich' alternating', or is there a memory issue with the hardware?
The 126E's usually display Dudley Via Roseville (From both directions aswell!)
Quote from: Westy on December 11, 2013, 10:06:08 PM
Don't 126 Dudley short journeys have '126 Dudley Only' programmed in?
Think 301's in Walsall display '301 Bloxwich Only' & I think 302's can too!
(They must have during the last snow diversions when they only ran to Bloxwich!)
Tony - Is there any reason why 'Via Leamore' can't be displayed on the displays next time there is an update?
Eg '301 Mossley via Leamore, 301 Mossley via Bloxwich' alternating', or is there a memory issue with the hardware?
Aren't the '[insert destination here] only' shorts exclusive to LED displays. The 126 uses tridents with dot matrix displays, so 'Dudley Only' wouldn't be an available option, I think, I've never seen it on a dot matrix anyway
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A 126E! On a Sunday! From Birmingham. Showing 126E - Dudley via Roseville
Which is incorrect, as Rooseville is between Dudley and Wolves (as I'm sure you realised)
Yeah, I am thanks, Matt. They must not have Dudley shorts from Birmingham keyed in, which I'm not surprised at. They don't have Londonderry - West Bromwich shorts keyed in on the 46 (just displays West Bromwich via Sandwell Hospital etc.), I wonder why that certain journey was only running to Dudley, seems odd
Isn't it possible that this display was
only deemed to be for services running
out of Wolves? Which, i'm sure, would possibly make for a ridiculously short journey! ::)
Yes it is meant for 126E jouneys out of Wolverhampton. Quite a few Peak Time Journey's terminate at Dudley from Wolves.
Also one thing is that 126E isn't programmed into Spectra 4019
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A 126E! On a Sunday! From Birmingham. Showing 126E - Dudley via Roseville
Which is incorrect, as Rooseville is between Dudley and Wolves (as I'm sure you realised)
Yeah, I am thanks, Matt. They must not have Dudley shorts from Birmingham keyed in, which I'm not surprised at. They don't have Londonderry - West Bromwich shorts keyed in on the 46 (just displays West Bromwich via Sandwell Hospital etc.), I wonder why that certain journey was only running to Dudley, seems odd
Isn't it possible that this display was only deemed to be for services running out of Wolves? Which, i'm sure, would possibly make for a ridiculously short journey! ::)
There aren't any timetabled Birmingham - Dudley shorts, they don't really happen that often, if ever. It must've been really late
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 12, 2013, 08:19:39 PM
Yes it is meant for 126E jouneys out of Wolverhampton. Quite a few Peak Time Journey's terminate at Dudley from Wolves.
Also one thing is that 126E isn't programmed into Spectra 4019
Are you sure, did you look through all the possible destinations?
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Yes it is meant for 126E jouneys out of Wolverhampton. Quite a few Peak Time Journey's terminate at Dudley from Wolves.
Also one thing is that 126E isn't programmed into Spectra 4019
Are you sure, did you look through all the possible destinations?
Yes I am definetley sure Matt :) I even got Matthew Jukes in the garage to check for me and he said it wasn't programmed in either. I did think it was rather odd
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Yes it is meant for 126E jouneys out of Wolverhampton. Quite a few Peak Time Journey's terminate at Dudley from Wolves.
Also one thing is that 126E isn't programmed into Spectra 4019
Are you sure, did you look through all the possible destinations?
Yes I am definetley sure Matt :) I even got Matthew Jukes in the garage to check for me and he said it wasn't programmed in either. I did think it was rather odd
So can it literally only display "Birmingham 126" and "Wolverhampton 126"?
Well I did put in a 126-Birmingham but when I tried to look through the variations I couldn't find a 126E so I asked Matthew Jukes and he then told me it musn't have been programmed in.
It baffled me because surely it would have needed to be programmed in so if it ever operated a 126E journey then it would need to display it?
Anyway back on topic, Saw a driver displaying 59E to Ashmore Park about Lunchtime on Sunday so driver accidently put wrong display up but saying that this does happen quite regually as it is quite easy for the driver to put in that variation.
Also in the past I have seen variations of the 126 to Five Ways andd also Bearwood also cropped up (Going towards Birmiingham from Wolverhampton these are)
Saw a 58E displaying Deritend - Adderly St I think. It turned around at the Olton Tavern, then right into Dovehouse Ln. So i Dont know weather it was turned there as well, which I doubt, or just simply missed the turning!
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Yes it is meant for 126E jouneys out of Wolverhampton. Quite a few Peak Time Journey's terminate at Dudley from Wolves.
Also one thing is that 126E isn't programmed into Spectra 4019
Are you sure, did you look through all the possible destinations?
Yes I am definetley sure Matt :) I even got Matthew Jukes in the garage to check for me and he said it wasn't programmed in either. I did think it was rather odd
So can it literally only display "Birmingham 126" and "Wolverhampton 126"?
There's bearwood and five ways
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Saw a 58E displaying Deritend - Adderly St I think. It turned around at the Olton Tavern, then right into Dovehouse Ln. So i Dont know weather it was turned there as well, which I doubt, or just simply missed the turning!
The 58 turns left into Dovehouse Lane when coming from Solihull so the driver missed the turn :)
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Saw a 58E displaying Deritend - Adderly St I think. It turned around at the Olton Tavern, then right into Dovehouse Ln. So i Dont know weather it was turned there as well, which I doubt, or just simply missed the turning!
The 58 turns left into Dovehouse Lane when coming from Solihull so the driver missed the turn :)
That's skimping it a bit isn't it? Short to Adderley St to avoid running dead from city to depot? I presume that wasn't timetabled? I know morning 59/58 start from Adderley St straight from Depot basically.
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Yes it is meant for 126E jouneys out of Wolverhampton. Quite a few Peak Time Journey's terminate at Dudley from Wolves.
Also one thing is that 126E isn't programmed into Spectra 4019
Are you sure, did you look through all the possible destinations?
Yes I am definetley sure Matt :) I even got Matthew Jukes in the garage to check for me and he said it wasn't programmed in either. I did think it was rather odd
So can it literally only display "Birmingham 126" and "Wolverhampton 126"?
There's bearwood and five ways
You've seen these on a Spectra, specifically 4019?...
Surely all blinds at the garage are programmed from the same box, so therefore all buses should have the same destinations on them. Unless 4019 hasn't been updated in a while???
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Saw a 58E displaying Deritend - Adderly St I think. It turned around at the Olton Tavern, then right into Dovehouse Ln. So i Dont know weather it was turned there as well, which I doubt, or just simply missed the turning!
The 58 turns left into Dovehouse Lane when coming from Solihull so the driver missed the turn :)
That's skimping it a bit isn't it? Short to Adderley St to avoid running dead from city to depot? I presume that wasn't timetabled? I know morning 59/58 start from Adderley St straight from Depot basically.
It was about half 5 so I dont think it would be returning to depot at that time?
Spotted a 49E yesterday in Cotteridge running to Shirley at about 5.40 pm. Never seen this one before
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Saw a 58E displaying Deritend - Adderly St I think. It turned around at the Olton Tavern, then right into Dovehouse Ln. So i Dont know weather it was turned there as well, which I doubt, or just simply missed the turning!
The 58 turns left into Dovehouse Lane when coming from Solihull so the driver missed the turn :)
That's skimping it a bit isn't it? Short to Adderley St to avoid running dead from city to depot? I presume that wasn't timetabled? I know morning 59/58 start from Adderley St straight from Depot basically.
It was about half 5 so I dont think it would be returning to depot at that time?
If it was this evening the traffic in town was horrendous! It would quite easily have taken the bus 60 minutes to get from there into the City Centre and back to Adderley St!
There was a south-bound 71E working yesterday lunchtime, noted at ASDA Minworth, destination "Chelmsley Wood". 2106 from memory. An actual 71, a 70**, was pretty much right behind it.
Not usual to see a 71E ...... presumably something out of sync trying to get back on sync via a short-working ......
29E to Harborne
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Yes it is meant for 126E jouneys out of Wolverhampton. Quite a few Peak Time Journey's terminate at Dudley from Wolves.
Also one thing is that 126E isn't programmed into Spectra 4019
Are you sure, did you look through all the possible destinations?
Yes I am definetley sure Matt :) I even got Matthew Jukes in the garage to check for me and he said it wasn't programmed in either. I did think it was rather odd
So can it literally only display "Birmingham 126" and "Wolverhampton 126"?
There's bearwood and five ways
You've seen these on a Spectra, specifically 4019?...
No, just on tridents.
900E Yardley
"Swan Island"
^From Coventry this evening.
I forgot to note the vehicle number, (sorry). The service timetabled to leave Coventry at 16:04, but late.
Saw a 6E to Hall Green this evening while waiting for the 37 (out of city).
Also the 37 I got must have just finished a 37E Camp Hill working, as it was empty when I got on. 8) Heading the opposite way, we passed another 37E going to Camp Hill, and a President showing '37E Bullring Markets'.
Oddly, the buses that were coming out of the city didn't seem to be particularly full, at least the 6E and the following 6 weren't, though there was a few on the 2 and the 5, but neither were packed out.
22E to California, Barnes Hill - on one of the hybrid 55** buses
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Spotted a 49E yesterday in Cotteridge running to Shirley at about 5.40 pm. Never seen this one before
There's a scheduled 49E from Cotteridge to Shirley Station should leave 17:57 from memory which may have been the one you saw , always seemed pointless as the Solihull bus is only 5 mins in front and then theres a gap of 15 mins till the next one, from Shirley Station it runs dead to the garage.
Also 58E - Hay Mills seen leaving Solihull around 16:15ish today.
830 222E to Russells Hall Hospital just left Brierley Hill
5E - New Oscott, Jockey Road , may be down to 3 - 4 buses all heading to Sutton
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830 222E to Russells Hall Hospital just left Brierley Hill
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomsbusphotos/11407623933/
61e to tenanl lane
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Is a 74E Island Road (from Birmingham) uncommon?
No, they are common timetabled short workings. in the daytime, the 'E' journeys are about every 20 minutes to Island Road from Birmingham.
How about a 74E ex West Bromwich to Island Road at 1120hrs?
At least 2 60E's to Wagon Lane during the middle of the day today but then the Coventry road is in chaos for some reason
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At least 2 60E's to Wagon Lane during the middle of the day today but then the Coventry road is in chaos for some reason
There is Roadworks on Church Road which is just round the corner from me just past the turn for Common Lane that is causing the traffic to pile up it stretches up to at least Hobs Moat most of the time and that is causing the Cov Road to get hold ups aswell I'd say every bus route by me apart from the S10 gets held up :)
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61e to tenanl lane
Tennal Lane is on the 99 route. Surely you meant Tessal Lane and if you did and if it was in the morning then it's timetabled.
Now 4567 126E Edgbaston, B'ham is a mess today!
17E Yardley
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At least 2 60E's to Wagon Lane during the middle of the day today but then the Coventry road is in chaos for some reason
There is Roadworks on Church Road which is just round the corner from me just past the turn for Common Lane that is causing the traffic to pile up it stretches up to at least Hobs Moat most of the time and that is causing the Cov Road to get hold ups aswell I'd say every bus route by me apart from the S10 gets held up :)
Not roadworks today. A broken down lorry
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At least 2 60E's to Wagon Lane during the middle of the day today but then the Coventry road is in chaos for some reason
There is Roadworks on Church Road which is just round the corner from me just past the turn for Common Lane that is causing the traffic to pile up it stretches up to at least Hobs Moat most of the time and that is causing the Cov Road to get hold ups aswell I'd say every bus route by me apart from the S10 gets held up :)
Something holds the S10 up - 20 mins delays today and upto 35 mins yesterday!
5E - Pheasey, collingwood dr probablly down to 3 + 5E heading towards WB::)
4567 has just left Wolverhampton Bus Station displaying 126E-Edgebaston 5 ways only
Never seen any unscheduled E's in Walsall.
Do they happen?
(Could do with them on the Dudley route, he says, sitting in a queue at Wednesbury High Bullen!)
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Never seen any unscheduled E's in Walsall.
Do they happen?
(Could do with them on the Dudley route, he says, sitting in a queue at Wednesbury High Bullen!)
i'm pretty sure there have been untimetabled E workings on the 311/3
Yesterday;
60E - Wagon Lane;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/11453069854/
Seen two 9E's Birmingham to Halesowen this afternoon, arriving in Halesowen Bus Station at 17:15 and 17:30.
The 9 is in even more chaos than usual for some reason, probably due to the weather.
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Yesterday;
60E - Wagon Lane;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/11453069854/
I'd count that as an untimetabled working Nath as to my knowledge no 60's are scheduled to terminate at Wagon Lane unless its a late running Cranes Park working :)
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Yesterday;
60E - Wagon Lane;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/11453069854/
I'd count that as an untimetabled working Nath as to my knowledge no 60's are scheduled to terminate at Wagon Lane unless its a late running Cranes Park working :)
But if it was a late running cranes park journey then it would still be untimetabled
313E to Wednesbury from WA
5E. to Tesco, New Oscott from West Bromwich
4801 at Quinton Church at 14:05 on a 9E to Edgbaston Five Ways.
6E to Whitburn Close departing Wolverhampton now.
EDIT: 126E to 5 Ways Edgbaston also departing Wolverhampton now.
Two I have never seen (And definetley not timetables)
4011 or 4013 departed Wolverhampton about 14:20 as a 59E-Wednesfield (I have never ever seen this working and I live near the route)
2011 departed Wolverhampton at 14:25 as a 6E-Pendeford Whitburn Close.
Both E workings I have never seen
126E EDGBASTON
IVY BUSH ;D
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126E EDGBASTON
IVY BUSH ;D
I reckon the Hagley Road traffic in Edgbaston is really clogged up, hence why it was terminated at the Ivy Bush and not just round the corner at Five Ways, which is what it usually does
Yet again i saw another 59E to Wednesfield about 17:15 on Rookery St opposite Sainsburyd. Bus was 4020.
There was an 8E to Victoria Street today
saw it in Ladywood about 9:30am
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Never seen any unscheduled E's in Walsall.
Do they happen?
(Could do with them on the Dudley route, he says, sitting in a queue at Wednesbury High Bullen!)
Pretty sure I've seen 51E's to Aston Six ways and Perry Barr, and 301/301 E's to Bloxwich only
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126E EDGBASTON
IVY BUSH ;D
I reckon the Hagley Road traffic in Edgbaston is really clogged up, hence why it was terminated at the Ivy Bush and not just round the corner at Five Ways, which is what it usually does
Would have never imagined that would even be programmed into the displays - I'm impressed!
Just spotted a 61 running into town in service using the Northfield bypass.
I assume it must have run as the 61E or 63E to Northfield town centre, and is now doing the return journey
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Just spotted a 61 running into town in service using the Northfield bypass.
I assume it must have run as the 61E or 63E to Northfield town centre, and is now doing the return journey
Not to my knowledge. Full service it just had to use the bypass due to congestion and somebody jumping from Grovesnor.
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Pretty sure I've seen 51E's to Aston Six ways and Perry Barr, and 301/301 E's to Bloxwich only
Yes I've seen both of those before. The 51E, I have only seen once a good few years ago now on 4683, and quite a few 301Es, again a while back now
Saw 4016 on WN 1 in Lichfield St in Wolverhampton displaying 1E to Tettenhall Wood The Rock
I imagine there will be a lot more 1E's today, waited almost 40 mins for one in upper gornal the 3 turned up.
16E - Hamstead Village
I saw a Stripey Enviro running a 35E to Pool Farm at about 2 o clock today. Did get the fleetnumber but have forgotten it -_- was definitely a BU07.
904E - Sutton Coldfield. Not sure 'bout this...
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904E - Sutton Coldfield. Not sure 'bout this...
Would be usual with it being a Sunday timetable :) Only one departure extends to Falcon Lodge or wherever the 904 terminates
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904E - Sutton Coldfield. Not sure 'bout this...
4 journeys per hour on Sundays (1 in the evenings) are 904Es to Sutton
957E to Old Lode Lane this afternoon, with a normal 957 just behind.
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957E to Old Lode Lane this afternoon, with a normal 957 just behind.
Great Spot Matt :) It must have turned round at the island by The Olton Tavern where Old Lode Lane, Hobs Moat Road, Castle Lane and Lode Lane all meet
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957E to Old Lode Lane this afternoon, with a normal 957 just behind.
Great Spot Matt :) That's the nearest stop where I get the 957 into Solihull and one way that could turn round there is if it continues to up to the island by The Olton Tavern where Old Lode Lane, Hobs Moat Road, Castle Lane and Lode Lane all meet or it can follow the S10 from Old Lode Lane left Valley Road then left onto Wells Road then left onto Coventry Road (joining the 900 from Coventry) then continues up to The Wheatsheaf to start its journey back to Birmingham and that is definitly untimetabled
I think I may have been on that bus - got chucked off at Frankton Close (the new stop) but the bus behind was 11mins at the time we got off. There was few 957Es today - That Old Lode Lane one and a few 'Yardley, Swan Centre'.
126E - Edgbaston, Five Ways
244E Dudley to Halesowen
120E Dudley to Edgbaston Five Ways
Both seen early this evening
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244E Dudley to Halesowen
120E Dudley to Edgbaston Five Ways
Both seen early this evening
Do you know how late the 244 was running (244E)?
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244E Dudley to Halesowen
120E Dudley to Edgbaston Five Ways
Both seen early this evening
Do you know how late the 244 was running (244E)?
I don't know, as the 244s were running all over the place this evening and I couldn't tell which ones were on which board. The 244 I was on (1706) was 15 minutes late.
16e and 74e to hockley going direction towards Birmingham
A 79E to Bilston left Wolverhampton Bus Station about 15:25
Did you get a picture?
1E Priory Road seen in Moseley about 10am
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16e and 74e to hockley going direction towards Birmingham
Of course many years ago, 16E, 74E & 79E to Hockley would have been a daily occurence when the garage was open.
126E - Paradise Circus
E400 on 6E seen at Shirley retail park 1820 to birmingham
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126E - Paradise Circus
Don't think i have seen that E working personally. I have seen a fair few to Bearwood and Edgbaston Five Ways from Wolverhampton
This morning at 10:50 saw 1640 on a 243E Cradley Heath.
I saw an 11E to Handsworth Soho Road about 3:20 today
don't know if that is timetabled though
87E Oldbury
8E - Victoria Road yesterday? Probably usual end of mileage running.
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87E Oldbury
What time? There's a few 87Es to Oldbury around 6/7 from Dudley
4539 pulled into Wolverhampton Bus Station this morning displaying 79E to Bilston although I would have thought it was just an error with the driver accidentally putting the wrong display up
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87E Oldbury
What time? There's a few 87Es to Oldbury around 6/7 from Dudley
Unless he means from Birmingham but I know there are timetabled ones from Dudley
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87E Oldbury
What time? There's a few 87Es to Oldbury around 6/7 from Dudley
Unless he means from Birmingham but I know there are timetabled ones from Dudley
There is one 87E working from Birmingham - Oldbury, departing Priory Queensway at 18:53
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87E Oldbury
What time? There's a few 87Es to Oldbury around 6/7 from Dudley
Unless he means from Birmingham but I know there are timetabled ones from Dudley
Was from Birmingham but saw around early 6 was on 900 lol
There is one 87E working from Birmingham - Oldbury, departing Priory Queensway at 18:53
4772 on a 997E to Aldridge, 0930 at Dyas Road
94E to fox and goose from chelmsley wood and 94e to Bacons End from birmingham
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94E to fox and goose from chelmsley wood and 94e to Bacons End from birmingham
Was the Bacons End a Clarabels or NX?
Never seen one on an NX bus before, have seen a few Fox & Goose's before
4202 276e to Stourbridge at 1840 in merry hill
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4202 276e to Stourbridge at 1840 in merry hill
That's timetabled Tom.
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4202 276e to Stourbridge at 1840 in merry hill
That's timetabled Tom.
Ah. Just checked the timetable now I've got to my Ipad and now I realise it is.
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94E to fox and goose from chelmsley wood and 94e to Bacons End from birmingham
Was the Bacons End a Clarabels or NX?
Never seen one on an NX bus before, have seen a few Fox & Goose's before
Clarbiels
~ 1400 hrs. I saw a 59E to Swan Centre towards Birmingham way when going to an unfortunate shopping experience at Morrisons in Castle Brom. Does that one count :) ?
Before you ask I do work, just working from home today and picking up some lunch.
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Before you ask I do work, just working from home today and picking up some lunch.
Glad you cleared that up. I was starting to think numerous things about you, monkeyjoe haha
Pershore Road was running with some E's and delays due to Dogpool Lane roadworks earlier.
98e Q.E. Hospital Main Entrance
33e Kingstanding Circle
Not Sure whether this is timetabled
4538 126E Dudley seen at 10:25 by Selfridges while I was on 4614 on the 10:16 60 to Cranes Park
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Not Sure whether this is timetabled
4538 126E Dudley seen at 10:25 by Selfridges while I was on 4614 on the 10:16 60 to Cranes Park
The 126E wouldn't have been timetabled
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Not Sure whether this is timetabled
4538 126E Dudley seen at 10:25 by Selfridges while I was on 4614 on the 10:16 60 to Cranes Park
There are no timetabled 126 journeys to Dudley from Birmingham ;)
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Not Sure whether this is timetabled
4538 126E Dudley seen at 10:25 by Selfridges while I was on 4614 on the 10:16 60 to Cranes Park
There are no timetabled 126 journeys to Dudley from Birmingham ;)
Thank You Nath just wasn't sure :)
It was probably running late so when got to Dudley may have ran dead back to Wolverhampton to catch up time :)
4837 - 21E BELL GREEN Riley Square
6029 - WHITLEY Riverside Close
2175 - 18E CANLEY
4215 - 18A CANLEY Short journey (4221 has orange display, Short journey shown in black on Orange background)
there was an 11E to Bearwood, Sandon Road/ Drayton Road
the terminus for Bearwood is normally at Hagley Road isn't it?
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4837 - 21E BELL GREEN Riley Square
6029 - WHITLEY Riverside Close
2175 - 18E CANLEY
4215 - 18A CANLEY Short journey (4221 has orange display, Short journey shown in black on Orange background)
Do you mean 6019? 6029 is a birmingham scania omnicity for the 67 :p
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there was an 11E to Bearwood, Sandon Road/ Drayton Road
the terminus for Bearwood is normally at Hagley Road isn't it?
That's timetabled
Yes it was 6019, must get a flickr account setup so I can post the pic I took of it in Trinity Street.
35 and 50e to Kings Heath
I saw a '957E' to Solihull Town Centre on a branded Enviro400 this afternoon
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I saw a '957E' to Solihull Town Centre on a branded Enviro400 this afternoon
Saw a couple of 957s using the 'back way' into the Town Centre and not serving the Station today. Obvioulsy due to the delays on the Coventry Rd caused by a lane closure each direction near Yardley
Edit: Just seen your post in Late services John ::)
Saw a WN 33E to Busbury Lane about 20 minutes ago by the Woodbine Pub
I had to run as a 94E to Arran Way this evening, due to been about 20 minutes late (Ashted Circus and Washwood Heath Road gridlocked)
Was the 94e timetabled
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Was the 94e timetabled
No it was not timetabled, I was adjusted (By Clock Garage). The Gemini in front had to wait to take my remaining passengers
There is a timetabled Arran Way working though, but earlier and it starts from Birmingham
A B7RLE came into Wolverhampton from Bushbury Hill displaying 2E to Wolverhampton this afternoon. Pretty sure it isn't timetabled
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A B7RLE came into Wolverhampton from Bushbury Hill displaying 2E to Wolverhampton this afternoon. Pretty sure it isn't timetabled
First 2E Bushbury - Wolverhampton departs Bushbury at 18:28
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A B7RLE came into Wolverhampton from Bushbury Hill displaying 2E to Wolverhampton this afternoon. Pretty sure it isn't timetabled
First 2E Bushbury - Wolverhampton departs Bushbury at 18:28
Then it was untimetabled then as this was about 16:20
4850 running as 33E to Perry Barr from Pheasey
17e Yew Tree
37E from city to Acocks Green, bus 2107, passed me in Sparkbrook, about 6:15pm
Got the next 37 a couple of minutes later, when it arrived in Acocks Green village, 2107 had finished unloading and then went and parked up by the 1 stop. The driver was having a fag, when I got back home it was still parked up there, showing 'Not In Service'. Don't know what it did after that, when I checked 10 minutes later it had gone.
I've never seen this so I'm unsure about it
but in Birmingham about 11am I saw 67E to Bagot Arms
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I've never seen this so I'm unsure about it
but in Birmingham about 11am I saw 67E to Bagot Arms
I've heard AVL on the radio to drivers before telling them to turn at the Bagot, so yeah would be untimetabled. Tyburn Road was a bit of a mess all day today from what I heard, something about a RTC at Salford circus in the morning and the road itself subsiding near Bromford
4908 running 15-20 minutes late with the 14:57 957 to Solihull now running as a 957E to Solihull Town Centre
4729 on 49E at Solihull 0930 to cotteridge
4430 on a 60E to Swan Centre this afternoon
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4729 on 49E at Solihull 0930 to cotteridge
That's pretty normal, alternate Mon-Sat daytime journeys only run to Cotteridge.
The Cov road lucked F98766ed again today between swan and sheldon so expect any variants again.
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The Cov road lucked F98766ed again today between swan and sheldon so expect any variants again.
No doubt it's those new lights for the new Morrisons? (Was it a Morrisons?)
Saw 2118 operating on 11C as 11E Bearwood Sandon Road / Drayton Road about 7 p.m. yeaterday. I know there are 11E short workings to Bearwood and the timetable shows them finishing at Kings Head. Do the 11C short workings to Bearwood continue to Sandon Road? If not it seemed a strange destination point.
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Saw 2118 operating on 11C as 11E Bearwood Sandon Road / Drayton Road about 7 p.m. yeaterday. I know there are 11E short workings to Bearwood and the timetable shows them finishing at Kings Head. Do the 11C short workings to Bearwood continue to Sandon Road? If not it seemed a strange destination point.
They are a few of theese every day.
The 28s were all over the place today (I think Scott Arms was the problem), quite a few running as 'E's to Fox & Goose this morning (plus I was 9 minutes late taking over my bus)
51E Six Ways Aston. Spotted at Scott Arms 1055hrs
4901 leaving with a shortened 09:40 900 Journey from Coventry to Airport & NEC
Got a pic of 4901 in Coventry the link is in the 'Late running services' thread
8E - Five Ways around 14:00
98E to QE Hospital main entrance, arrived at 16.10 this afternoon. (Guessing it came from Rubery, not the city centre)
Quote from: John on February 04, 2014, 01:26:42 PM
The 28s were all over the place today (I think Scott Arms was the problem), quite a few running as 'E's to Fox & Goose this morning (plus I was 9 minutes late taking over my bus)
Always has been, always will be... Although I have to say I hope they don't try to cut the 28 into pieces to try to sort it out cause that route is invaluable sometimes
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98E to QE Hospital main entrance, arrived at 16.10 this afternoon. (Guessing it came from Rubery, not the city centre)
There is a regular 98E to Q.E. in the afternoon. From City, week-daily occurrence.
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98E to QE Hospital main entrance, arrived at 16.10 this afternoon. (Guessing it came from Rubery, not the city centre)
There is a regular 98E to Q.E. in the afternoon. From City, week-daily occurrence.
Thanks. Saw it again today. I probably should have checked the timetable before posting.
2073 left Wolverhampton this afternoon about 4 PM as a 6E to Pendeford Whitburn Ave
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98E to QE Hospital main entrance, arrived at 16.10 this afternoon. (Guessing it came from Rubery, not the city centre)
There is a regular 98E to Q.E. in the afternoon. From City, week-daily occurrence.
Thanks. Saw it again today. I probably should have checked the timetable before posting.
Not at all, Uniquicity, it's a fair spot and does look untimetabled, to be fair.
17e garrets green :-X
2017 left Wolverhampton just after 4 on journey of a Bushbury Hill bound 2 cut short to Showell Circus
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17e garrets green :-X
I have not seen one to Garretts Green before, only seen The Radleys and Yardley Yew Tree for the 17
I don't recall ever seeing an E working on the 121/688, which is a surprise to me, considering how often it runs late. Anyone else seen one?
Last Night, 8E to Bordesley Green
Not sure if timetabled but a 1E pulling into wolves at 16:15 from tettenhall wood
Quote from: NXDom on February 07, 2014, 06:53:19 PM
Not sure if timetabled but a 1E pulling into wolves at 16:15 from tettenhall wood
Saw this the same at the same time as you :) it went out of service and up Queen St out onto Market St and I saw an inspector briefly get on so my guess was it was adjusted to run dead if it was running late
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Quote from: NXDom on February 07, 2014, 06:53:19 PM
Not sure if timetabled but a 1E pulling into wolves at 16:15 from tettenhall wood
Saw this the same at the same time as you :) it went out of service and up Queen St out onto Market St and I saw an inspector briefly get on so my guess was it was adjusted to run dead if it was running late
I saw that too. It is certainly not timetabled and must have been quite late.
Quote from: uniquicity on February 07, 2014, 06:14:52 PM
I don't recall ever seeing an E working on the 121/688, which is a surprise to me, considering how often it runs late. Anyone else seen one?
i did see a 121E/688E once, to Oldbury from Dudley, but it rarely gets adjusted.
4018 33E Bushbury just left bus station
1438 left W'ton about 12:55 as a 69E to New Invention. Never seen an E to New Invention from Wolves on the 69
957E Sheldon Wheatsheaf
61E Raven Hays Road Tessall Lane
Seems problems on Coventry road today as 900's and 957's late all over
Quote from: vinh1000 on February 10, 2014, 08:45:30 AM
957E Sheldon Wheatsheaf
61E Raven Hays Road Tessall Lane
Seems problems on Coventry road today as 900's and 957's late all over
Vinny, that 61E is a regular Mon-Fri as on the running card. It gets to Raven Hays at 0920 [est.] and leaves at 0931 back to Birmingham New Street.
98e QE hospital again
9e Quinton (church) again
Saw a Bendybus in Foleshill Road, Coventry on late running southbound 4 showing I think "4E Stoke Hill" (I think) it whizzed past the bus I was in.
Yesterday;
934E to kingstanding from Walsall behind a 934 to Birmingham
4888 13E Binley, Brandon Road
4606 displaying 126E Birchley Island outside the ICC
Just overtook 4829 9E Edgbaston Five Ways by the Royal Oak
Quote from: Sh4318 on February 14, 2014, 07:31:25 PM
4606 displaying 126E Birchley Island outside the ICC
What time was this? As a lorry had broken down going round the Island blocking a lane causing hold ups towards Dudley and the other way to Oldbury so imagine the 126 was quite badly effected yesterday
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on February 15, 2014, 07:56:28 AM
Quote from: Sh4318 on February 14, 2014, 07:31:25 PM
4606 displaying 126E Birchley Island outside the ICC
What time was this? As a lorry had broken down going round the Island blocking a lane causing hold ups towards Dudley and the other way to Oldbury so imagine the 126 was quite badly effected yesterday
Approx. 18:42
87e Oldbury around 16:30
I saw a 14E to Stechford at 20:20 in Birmingham
That particular 14E is timetabled I believe
It is. Spins round to run in service to town then back to BC. A straight through duty I think - three whole trips then that short one.
Quote from: AndrewLee on February 16, 2014, 10:13:19 PM
It is. Spins round to run in service to town then back to BC. A straight through duty I think - three whole trips then that short one.
More then likely. The East Birmingham routes [/rotas] have numerous straight through duties. Surprising really as the rest of the garage are 100% split.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 17, 2014, 09:18:15 PM
Quote from: AndrewLee on February 16, 2014, 10:13:19 PM
It is. Spins round to run in service to town then back to BC. A straight through duty I think - three whole trips then that short one.
More then likely. The East Birmingham routes [/rotas] have numerous straight through duties. Surprising really as the rest of the garage are 100% split.
That is a nice duty, did it a few weeks ago, you get 30 min layover at Chelmsley Wood on the 3rd trip which makes the duty legal
Quote from: Tony on February 17, 2014, 09:26:41 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 17, 2014, 09:18:15 PM
Quote from: AndrewLee on February 16, 2014, 10:13:19 PM
It is. Spins round to run in service to town then back to BC. A straight through duty I think - three whole trips then that short one.
More then likely. The East Birmingham routes [/rotas] have numerous straight through duties. Surprising really as the rest of the garage are 100% split.
That is a nice duty, did it a few weeks ago, you get 30 min layover at Chelmsley Wood on the 3rd trip which makes the duty legal
Tony, i always thought the break had to be 45 minutes or is that just coach drivers?
Quote from: Tony on February 17, 2014, 09:26:41 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 17, 2014, 09:18:15 PM
Quote from: AndrewLee on February 16, 2014, 10:13:19 PM
It is. Spins round to run in service to town then back to BC. A straight through duty I think - three whole trips then that short one.
More then likely. The East Birmingham routes [/rotas] have numerous straight through duties. Surprising really as the rest of the garage are 100% split.
That is a nice duty, did it a few weeks ago, you get 30 min layover at Chelmsley Wood on the 3rd trip which makes the duty legal
I recall you telling me. It's the same story with the late night Chelmsley - 40min minimum lay over at Chelmsley on your first trip! Lovely job! And with the 97, you'd have no stop on the terminus, so nobody is there knocking on your doors. Annoying termini really grinds on me, Longbridge for one!
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on February 17, 2014, 09:29:06 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 17, 2014, 09:26:41 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 17, 2014, 09:18:15 PM
Quote from: AndrewLee on February 16, 2014, 10:13:19 PM
It is. Spins round to run in service to town then back to BC. A straight through duty I think - three whole trips then that short one.
More then likely. The East Birmingham routes [/rotas] have numerous straight through duties. Surprising really as the rest of the garage are 100% split.
That is a nice duty, did it a few weeks ago, you get 30 min layover at Chelmsley Wood on the 3rd trip which makes the duty legal
Tony, i always thought the break had to be 45 minutes or is that just coach drivers?
Straight through duties on Domestic need cumulative 45mins across your whole duty.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on February 17, 2014, 09:29:06 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 17, 2014, 09:26:41 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 17, 2014, 09:18:15 PM
Quote from: AndrewLee on February 16, 2014, 10:13:19 PM
It is. Spins round to run in service to town then back to BC. A straight through duty I think - three whole trips then that short one.
More then likely. The East Birmingham routes [/rotas] have numerous straight through duties. Surprising really as the rest of the garage are 100% split.
That is a nice duty, did it a few weeks ago, you get 30 min layover at Chelmsley Wood on the 3rd trip which makes the duty legal
Tony, i always thought the break had to be 45 minutes or is that just coach drivers?
bus drivers too if they've been working 4.5 hours
Quote from: Andrew on February 17, 2014, 09:30:46 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on February 17, 2014, 09:29:06 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 17, 2014, 09:26:41 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 17, 2014, 09:18:15 PM
Quote from: AndrewLee on February 16, 2014, 10:13:19 PM
It is. Spins round to run in service to town then back to BC. A straight through duty I think - three whole trips then that short one.
More then likely. The East Birmingham routes [/rotas] have numerous straight through duties. Surprising really as the rest of the garage are 100% split.
That is a nice duty, did it a few weeks ago, you get 30 min layover at Chelmsley Wood on the 3rd trip which makes the duty legal
Tony, i always thought the break had to be 45 minutes or is that just coach drivers?
bus drivers too if they've been working 4.5 hours
No. It's half hour break after 5.5 hours continuous driving. 45mins TOTAL if it's a straight through.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 17, 2014, 09:31:46 PM
Quote from: Andrew on February 17, 2014, 09:30:46 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on February 17, 2014, 09:29:06 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 17, 2014, 09:26:41 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 17, 2014, 09:18:15 PM
Quote from: AndrewLee on February 16, 2014, 10:13:19 PM
It is. Spins round to run in service to town then back to BC. A straight through duty I think - three whole trips then that short one.
More then likely. The East Birmingham routes [/rotas] have numerous straight through duties. Surprising really as the rest of the garage are 100% split.
That is a nice duty, did it a few weeks ago, you get 30 min layover at Chelmsley Wood on the 3rd trip which makes the duty legal
Tony, i always thought the break had to be 45 minutes or is that just coach drivers?
bus drivers too if they've been working 4.5 hours
No. It's half hour break after 5.5 hours continuous driving. 45mins TOTAL if it's a straight through.
Yes, that duty is covered both ways, if you get the 30 min at Chelmsley Wood, that makes it legal to do 10 hours driving, if you arrive a few minutes late, there is enough break in the first two trips to take you past the 45min cumulative rule so you can do 8.5 hours. The duty is only about 7 hours driving anyway, so either rule applies
Quote from: Tony on February 17, 2014, 09:35:38 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 17, 2014, 09:31:46 PM
Quote from: Andrew on February 17, 2014, 09:30:46 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on February 17, 2014, 09:29:06 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 17, 2014, 09:26:41 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 17, 2014, 09:18:15 PM
Quote from: AndrewLee on February 16, 2014, 10:13:19 PM
It is. Spins round to run in service to town then back to BC. A straight through duty I think - three whole trips then that short one.
More then likely. The East Birmingham routes [/rotas] have numerous straight through duties. Surprising really as the rest of the garage are 100% split.
That is a nice duty, did it a few weeks ago, you get 30 min layover at Chelmsley Wood on the 3rd trip which makes the duty legal
Tony, i always thought the break had to be 45 minutes or is that just coach drivers?
bus drivers too if they've been working 4.5 hours
No. It's half hour break after 5.5 hours continuous driving. 45mins TOTAL if it's a straight through.
Yes, that duty is covered both ways, if you get the 30 min at Chelmsley Wood, that makes it legal to do 10 hours driving, if you arrive a few minutes late, there is enough break in the first two trips to take you past the 45min cumulative rule so you can do 8.5 hours. The duty is only about 7 hours driving anyway, so either rule applies
If only we can get our
friends in Head Office to make every duty like that.. hehehe ;)
I saw a 50 to Alcester Lane (North or South, cannot remember which) loading on MS2 this afternoon
Quote from: Matt on February 17, 2014, 09:42:31 PM
I saw a 50 to Alcester Lane (North or South, cannot remember which) loading on MS2 this afternoon
It will be Alcester Lane End, many years ago the terminus of the 50
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on February 17, 2014, 09:29:06 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 17, 2014, 09:26:41 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 17, 2014, 09:18:15 PM
Quote from: AndrewLee on February 16, 2014, 10:13:19 PM
It is. Spins round to run in service to town then back to BC. A straight through duty I think - three whole trips then that short one.
More then likely. The East Birmingham routes [/rotas] have numerous straight through duties. Surprising really as the rest of the garage are 100% split.
That is a nice duty, did it a few weeks ago, you get 30 min layover at Chelmsley Wood on the 3rd trip which makes the duty legal
Tony, i always thought the break had to be 45 minutes or is that just coach drivers?
There are two main types of driving regulations - EU & Domestic. The type of work & length of the route primarily define which category applies (there are a few other factors) - as a general rule Coach Driving comes under EU rules and bus driving under Domestic (although there are many exceptions!).
EU rules are much stricter and with regards to day to day working, a driver must take a 45 minute break after 4.5 hours of continuous driving. Maximum driving time is usually 9 hours, which can be extended on certain days to 10. The 45 minute break can be split into a 15 & 30 minute break (in that order!) but the second break must be taken after no more than 4.5 hours driving has taken place. (Eg. 2 Hours Driving (15 Break) 2.5 Hours Driving (30 Break) 4.5 Hours Driving). When driving under EU rules, driving hours must be recorded by Tachographs.
Domestic Rules are much less strict - after 5.5 Hours driving only a 30 minute break is required. As Tony has stated, the alternative way (and much less common with NXWM) is a cumulative break, whereby during an 8.5 hour period breaks totalling 45 minutes must be taken. In theory, the breaks during the Cumulative method could be taken as 9 five-minute breaks. Maximum daily driving time is 10 hours. A tachograph is not required to record Domestic Rule driving.
Virtually all work at NXWM falls under Domestic Regs, but there are exceptions such as the WA 'College Bus', which falls under Private Hire work and therefore comes under EU Regulations.
4592 on a 126E-'DUDLEY' (As it said on the dot matrix display) from B'ham direction. 13:25 by Burntree Tesco heading into Dudley
4535 on the 126 heading to Birmingham was turned short at Bearwood at 11am this morning... did a u-turn at the Lordswood Road junction then headed back towards Dudley. Not sure if it returned in service or dead.
Quote from: uniquicity on February 19, 2014, 08:57:12 PM
4535 on the 126 heading to Birmingham was turned short at Bearwood at 11am this morning... did a u-turn at the Lordswood Road junction then headed back towards Dudley. Not sure if it returned in service or dead.
Strangley enough 4535 was on the 59 by 5PM
Quote from: uniquicity on February 19, 2014, 08:57:12 PM
4535 on the 126 heading to Birmingham was turned short at Bearwood at 11am this morning... did a u-turn at the Lordswood Road junction then headed back towards Dudley. Not sure if it returned in service or dead.
Are vehicles allowed to perform a U-turn there?
yes they are matt
Quote from: NXDom on February 22, 2014, 05:34:51 PM
yes they are matt
I'm sure that vehicles shouldn't petform a u turn there.
Quote from: Nathan on February 22, 2014, 05:57:56 PM
Quote from: NXDom on February 22, 2014, 05:34:51 PM
yes they are matt
I'm sure that vehicles shouldn't petform a u turn there.
There's no signs to indicate No U-Turning, so it's perfectly fine (as long as you do it safely of course!)
I suppose buses choose not to then to avoid an accident. I know 9's and 141's that terminate at Bearwood don't usually do a U-Turn at Hagley Rd. Thanks for the info Stu :)
Quote from: Nathan on February 22, 2014, 06:04:55 PM
I suppose buses choose not to then to avoid an accident. I know 9's and 141's that terminate at Bearwood don't usually do a U-Turn at Hagley Rd. Thanks for the info Stu :)
No problem! I may never have passed my driving test, but I did study the Highway Code when I was younger! (just wish that people who do drive would too!)
Quote from: Stu on February 22, 2014, 06:40:25 PM
Quote from: Nathan on February 22, 2014, 06:04:55 PM
I suppose buses choose not to then to avoid an accident. I know 9's and 141's that terminate at Bearwood don't usually do a U-Turn at Hagley Rd. Thanks for the info Stu :)
No problem! I may never have passed my driving test, but I did study the Highway Code when I was younger! (just wish that people who do drive would too!)
I was always taught the correct way to turn there was Right down Lordswood Road, First Right to 'T' junction, Right Hamilton Avenue, left back onto Hagley Road West, that was many years ago, not sure if the instruction has now changed.
The Sundays 140E to Bearwood which operated hourly until reasonably recently were instructed :
Continue along Hagley Road,
left into Barnsley Road,
left into Sandon Road,
left into Rutland Road,
left onto Bearwood Road,
right back onto Hagley Road.
It would be interesting to note the route instructions for the early morning 126 which starts from Bearwood at 0527.
I once saw the Bearwood 141E arrive at Bearwood, it turned left and headed up Bearwood high street, then reappeared a couple of minutes later coming down the high street and turned right onto Hagley Road West. Perhaps it went down the high street to the crossroads, then turned right, then right again along the road the 11A uses.
Could buses terminating at Bearwood not use the "bus station" to turn around, like the 82?
Quote from: Matt on February 23, 2014, 12:17:39 AM
I once saw the Bearwood 141E arrive at Bearwood, it turned left and headed up Bearwood high street, then reappeared a couple of minutes later coming down the high street and turned right onto Hagley Road West. Perhaps it went down the high street to the crossroads, then turned right, then right again along the road the 11A uses.
Could buses terminating at Bearwood not use the "bus station" to turn around, like the 82?
They probably would be charged for using the station.
Quote from: fleetline6477 on February 22, 2014, 08:29:27 PM
The Sundays 140E to Bearwood which operated hourly until reasonably recently were instructed :
Continue along Hagley Road,
left into Barnsley Road,
left into Sandon Road,
left into Rutland Road,
left onto Bearwood Road,
right back onto Hagley Road.
It would be interesting to note the route instructions for the early morning 126 which starts from Bearwood at 0527.
Before this, the 140E would just do a u-turn. But this was probably early '00s, late '90s
Quote from: Matt on February 23, 2014, 12:17:39 AM
I once saw the Bearwood 141E arrive at Bearwood, it turned left and headed up Bearwood high street, then reappeared a couple of minutes later coming down the high street and turned right onto Hagley Road West. Perhaps it went down the high street to the crossroads, then turned right, then right again along the road the 11A uses.
Could buses terminating at Bearwood not use the "bus station" to turn around, like the 82?
There's no left turn into Adkins Lane from Bearwood Road (heading north). They'd have to carry on up Bearwood Road, then left into Anderson Road, left into Herbert Road. And yes, there would be the case of 'booking slots' at Bearwood bus station too.
5512 left Wolverhampton Bus Station this afternoon as a 59E to Wednesfield
Quote from: Stu on February 23, 2014, 10:02:27 AM
Quote from: Matt on February 23, 2014, 12:17:39 AM
I once saw the Bearwood 141E arrive at Bearwood, it turned left and headed up Bearwood high street, then reappeared a couple of minutes later coming down the high street and turned right onto Hagley Road West. Perhaps it went down the high street to the crossroads, then turned right, then right again along the road the 11A uses.
Could buses terminating at Bearwood not use the "bus station" to turn around, like the 82?
There's no left turn into Adkins Lane from Bearwood Road (heading north). They'd have to carry on up Bearwood Road, then left into Anderson Road, left into Herbert Road. And yes, there would be the case of 'booking slots' at Bearwood bus station too.
They could use Lightwoods Road, Lightwoods Hill then re-enter the Hagley Road that way, but then I guess you'd miss the stop on Hagley Road West
9E to Halesowen?
Quote from: vinh1000 on February 24, 2014, 08:54:13 AM
9E to Halesowen?
If it was from Birmingham there are a couple of 9Es to Halesowen every day (Mon-Fri, at least) around this time.
37E Bull Ring Markets St Martins Church
66E from Kingstanding to Star City at 11.40 this morning
1E to Sedgley from Wolverhampton
1E to Wolverhampton from Dudley
6E to Pendeford about 10 mins ago
Quote from: Andrew on February 27, 2014, 11:13:27 AM
1E to Sedgley from Wolverhampton
1E to Wolverhampton from Dudley
6E to Pendeford about 10 mins ago
Saw the 1E to Sedgley too. I just saw 4 hybrid buses (2 Wrights and 2 Enviros) changed to Not in Service, arriving in Wolverhampton.
Quote from: P419 EJW on February 27, 2014, 11:21:55 AM
Quote from: Andrew on February 27, 2014, 11:13:27 AM
1E to Sedgley from Wolverhampton
1E to Wolverhampton from Dudley
6E to Pendeford about 10 mins ago
Saw the 1E to Sedgley too. I just saw 4 hybrid buses (2 Wrights and 2 Enviros) changed to Not in Service, arriving in Wolverhampton.
Must be to do with fallen trees on the A41 this morning in Tettenhall
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/transport-news/2014/02/27/traffic-chaos-after-fallen-tree-blocks-wolverhampton-road/
14e Marston Green
4542 worked a 59E to Ashmore Park (So not the full Ashmore Park Lopp-Just to top shops) then ran not in service towards Wolverhampton
Quote from: vinh1000 on February 27, 2014, 06:28:38 PM
14e Marston Green
I think I might have seen the same 14E as you at around the same sort of time, but the one I saw displayed Marston Green but then the driver changed it to Meadway.
4543 was parked in WB Bus Station at 17.35 with 79E Bilston on the blinds... I have no evidence that it left in service like this. Just mentioning the fact.
Has the 6E to i54 been said already?
been a while since I've been in Wolverhampton
Quote from: OH25 on March 01, 2014, 04:40:20 PM
Has the 6E to i54 been said already?
been a while since I've been in Wolverhampton
There are works between I54 and Wobaston so the 6 can not reach the terminus
Quote from: OH25 on March 01, 2014, 04:40:20 PM
Has the 6E to i54 been said already?
been a while since I've been in Wolverhampton
Atm as John said there is a road closure at the Patshull Ave and Wobaston Rd junction for 16 weeks meaning the 6 cannot get to the terminus so it is temporarily terminating at I54 so drivers are displaying 6E-I54
Quote from: Nathan on October 13, 2013, 09:57:45 PM
Saw a 3E to Wobaston this afternoon (A destination i have never seen displayed) due to a car/Pedestrian collision on the Stafford Rd (Vine Island) this morning
I've seen a 3E twice recently, both times it was in front of a normal 3, and heading towards Wolvo, but went round the Roundabout at Bushbury Lane (by the boarded up Island House pub) and back up the Stafford Road towards Fordhouses. Struck me as somewhat useless to man nor beast!
Quote from: DOC37V on March 01, 2014, 11:55:04 PM
Quote from: Nathan on October 13, 2013, 09:57:45 PM
Saw a 3E to Wobaston this afternoon (A destination i have never seen displayed) due to a car/Pedestrian collision on the Stafford Rd (Vine Island) this morning
I've seen a 3E twice recently, both times it was in front of a normal 3, and heading towards Wolvo, but went round the Roundabout at Bushbury Lane (by the boarded up Island House pub) and back up the Stafford Road towards Fordhouses. Struck me as somewhat useless to man nor beast!
Related to the same, there is a 3E shuttle service running during the period of the road closure.
http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/wobaston/
Quote from: DOC37V on March 01, 2014, 11:55:04 PM
Quote from: Nathan on October 13, 2013, 09:57:45 PM
Saw a 3E to Wobaston this afternoon (A destination i have never seen displayed) due to a car/Pedestrian collision on the Stafford Rd (Vine Island) this morning
I've seen a 3E twice recently, both times it was in front of a normal 3, and heading towards Wolvo, but went round the Roundabout at Bushbury Lane (by the boarded up Island House pub) and back up the Stafford Road towards Fordhouses. Struck me as somewhat useless to man nor beast!
Helps people on Marsh Lane and Patshull Ave connect with the 3/4/25A
2127 58E South Yardley from Solihull 08:15
1E to Tettenhall The Rock leaving Lichfield Street at about 16:05. I think it was 5417 though I'm not certain.
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on March 03, 2014, 04:29:03 PM
1E to Tettenhall The Rock leaving Lichfield Street at about 16:05. I think it was 5417 though I'm not certain.
Heard someone inside WN garage saying the 1's were all over the place today
4197 did a 53E from West Bromwich to Blackheath. Seen on Bearwood High Street at 17.00.
(Not to be confused with the regular 53Es from WB at 17.50, 18.20 and 18.50).
934E - Perry Barr BCU didn't know this display was on there
Quote from: Nathan4775 on March 06, 2014, 03:13:16 PM
934E - Perry Barr BCU didn't know this display was on there
Buses have lots of different variations on the Hanover display on each route
16E Priory Queensway
1627 was seen earlier leaving Marry Hill (around 1440) on a 276E to Stourbridge followed moments later by 4353, almost empty, on a normal 276 to Wollaston Junction.
Surely it would have been better to terminate 1627 at Merry Hill, put its passengers on 4353 and send 1627 empty to Wollaston in time to take up its next 276.
Quote from: Nathan on March 06, 2014, 05:05:41 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on March 06, 2014, 03:13:16 PM
934E - Perry Barr BCU didn't know this display was on there
Buses have lots of different variations on the Hanover display on each route
:) i know, for some reason I didnt expect that to be on there
Quote from: Nathan4775 on March 07, 2014, 08:07:18 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 06, 2014, 05:05:41 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on March 06, 2014, 03:13:16 PM
934E - Perry Barr BCU didn't know this display was on there
Buses have lots of different variations on the Hanover display on each route
:) i know, for some reason I didnt expect that to be on there
OK :) Was just checking in case you wasn't aware that's all :)
Quote from: Nathan on March 07, 2014, 08:09:56 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on March 07, 2014, 08:07:18 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 06, 2014, 05:05:41 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on March 06, 2014, 03:13:16 PM
934E - Perry Barr BCU didn't know this display was on there
Buses have lots of different variations on the Hanover display on each route
:) i know, for some reason I didnt expect that to be on there
OK :) Was just checking in case you wasn't aware that's all :)
:) no problem
saw 4596 doing a 126E from Birmingham going to Dudley at 14:20 on Hagley Road
is that timetabled?
also it was followed by another 126 going to Wolverhampton so maybe it was just running late
Quote from: OH25 on March 07, 2014, 10:52:47 PM
saw 4596 doing a 126E from Birmingham going to Dudley at 14:20 on Hagley Road
is that timetabled?
also it was followed by another 126 going to Wolverhampton so maybe it was just running late
There are no timetabled E workings to Dudley from Birmingham on the 126
Dudley 126E
Via Roseville
Just got to Dudley from Birmingham.
905E Six Ways Erdington
Quote from: Andrew on March 10, 2014, 05:01:18 PM
Dudley 126E
Via Roseville
Just got to Dudley from Birmingham.
You sure it was coming from Birmingham, i.e. up Castle Hill rather than down it, with the entrance to the bus station closed?
Quote from: Matt on March 10, 2014, 09:11:01 PM
Quote from: Andrew on March 10, 2014, 05:01:18 PM
Dudley 126E
Via Roseville
Just got to Dudley from Birmingham.
You sure it was coming from Birmingham, i.e. up Castle Hill rather than down it, with the entrance to the bus station closed?
Yes I presume he saw it come from the Burntree island and up Castle Hill into Dudley Bus Station....
Quote from: Nathan on March 10, 2014, 09:14:11 PM
Quote from: Matt on March 10, 2014, 09:11:01 PM
Quote from: Andrew on March 10, 2014, 05:01:18 PM
Dudley 126E
Via Roseville
Just got to Dudley from Birmingham.
You sure it was coming from Birmingham, i.e. up Castle Hill rather than down it, with the entrance to the bus station closed?
Yes I presume he saw it come from the Burntree island and up Castle Hill into Dudley Bus Station....
yes, it came from Birmingham. I saw it come from castle gate island and up castle hill
Just saw 4589 on 126E departing Wolverhampton Bus Station, its' destination blinds displayed Edgbaston Five Ways. Is this timetabled?
Quote from: P419 EJW on March 11, 2014, 05:20:41 PM
Just saw 4589 on 126E departing Wolverhampton Bus Station, its' destination blinds displayed Edgbaston Five Ways. Is this timetabled?
No timetabled 126's to Edgbason from either Direction.
Quote from: Nathan on March 11, 2014, 06:00:20 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on March 11, 2014, 05:20:41 PM
Just saw 4589 on 126E departing Wolverhampton Bus Station, its' destination blinds displayed Edgbaston Five Ways. Is this timetabled?
No timetabled 126's to Edgbason from either Direction.
Noted. It was weird to see that on the destination display.
Quote from: P419 EJW on March 11, 2014, 06:05:33 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 11, 2014, 06:00:20 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on March 11, 2014, 05:20:41 PM
Just saw 4589 on 126E departing Wolverhampton Bus Station, its' destination blinds displayed Edgbaston Five Ways. Is this timetabled?
No timetabled 126's to Edgbason from either Direction.
Noted. It was weird to see that on the destination display.
The only timetabled 126's are the ones timetabled from W'ton to Dudley. :) I have seen a few turned at Five ways but its still a working I don't see on a regular basis :)
Birmingham city centre was (and may still be) gridlocked earlier, so there were probably lots of untimetabled E workings.
Quote from: Stu on March 11, 2014, 07:13:19 PM
Birmingham city centre was (and may still be) gridlocked earlier, so there were probably lots of untimetabled E workings.
I can assure you, it still is! It took my 22 45 minutes to get from Five Ways to Paradise Circus and back to Five Ways.
Quote from: Stu on March 11, 2014, 07:13:19 PM
Birmingham city centre was (and may still be) gridlocked earlier, so there were probably lots of untimetabled E workings.
M6 was shut between 6&7 traffic was being diverted up the aston expressway and down the a34 walsall road to re join the motorway so suspect their was carnage.
Quote from: monkeyjoe on March 11, 2014, 08:09:27 PM
Quote from: Stu on March 11, 2014, 07:13:19 PM
Birmingham city centre was (and may still be) gridlocked earlier, so there were probably lots of untimetabled E workings.
M6 was shut between 6&7 traffic was being diverted up the aston expressway and down the a34 walsall road to re join the motorway so suspect their was carnage.
Radio message came through from TGB control saying it would be closed till 8.
Quote from: monkeyjoe on March 11, 2014, 08:09:27 PM
Quote from: Stu on March 11, 2014, 07:13:19 PM
Birmingham city centre was (and may still be) gridlocked earlier, so there were probably lots of untimetabled E workings.
M6 was shut between 6&7 traffic was being diverted up the aston expressway and down the a34 walsall road to re join the motorway so suspect their was carnage.
And as well as the temporary traffic lights on the Stratford Road under the railway bridge by Camp Hill Island, I also heard there'd been an accident at Bordesley Circus. The ring-road was mayhem, and traffic was queuing along both the Stratford Road and Camp Hill. I was planning on avoiding this all by getting the 50 to Moseley and then a 1 home to Acocks Green, but after waiting nearly 15mins for a 50 that was 'due' (according to the NXWM app) and then arrived displaying 'Unload Only' I gave up and walked down into Sparkbrook and joined a packed 37 which I passed earlier and had been stuck for ages.
Quote from: Stu on March 11, 2014, 08:19:42 PM
Quote from: monkeyjoe on March 11, 2014, 08:09:27 PM
Quote from: Stu on March 11, 2014, 07:13:19 PM
Birmingham city centre was (and may still be) gridlocked earlier, so there were probably lots of untimetabled E workings.
M6 was shut between 6&7 traffic was being diverted up the aston expressway and down the a34 walsall road to re join the motorway so suspect their was carnage.
And as well as the temporary traffic lights on the Stratford Road under the railway bridge by Camp Hill Island, I also heard there'd been an accident at Bordesley Circus. The ring-road was mayhem, and traffic was queuing along both the Stratford Road and Camp Hill. I was planning on avoiding this all by getting the 50 to Moseley and then a 1 home to Acocks Green, but after waiting nearly 15mins for a 50 that was 'due' (according to the NXWM app) and then arrived displaying 'Unload Only' I gave up and walked down into Sparkbrook and joined a packed 37 which I passed earlier and had been stuck for ages.
I finished work at Bordesley today, knew what traffic was like so decided the best way home was to walk from Bordesley garage to Duddeston Station, oh what a lovely walk that is (not).
16E Church Lane
Delays on the 126 due o traffic light failure at Birchley Crossing resulting in some E workings (All seen at W'ton between 16:30-16:55).
A 126 left as an E to Bearwood Kings Head
There was one I have never seen which is a 126E-Broad St. (Departed about 16:40)
Sheepcote St
There was also a 126 that went out on an in timetabled 126E-Dudley
4593 left Wolverhampton as a 27E to Gornal Wood about 14:30 this afternoon. (Should have departed at 14:05)
Yesterday;
5E - Kingstanding around 2pm
2080 was parked up at Dudley Bus Station displaying X96-Dudley
Quote from: Nathan on March 15, 2014, 08:24:55 PM
2080 was parked up at Dudley Bus Station displaying X96-Dudley
The 18:50 from Norfolk Road is due to terminate at Dudley Bus Station at 19:33, so not untimetabled
Quote from: Tony on March 15, 2014, 08:29:20 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 15, 2014, 08:24:55 PM
2080 was parked up at Dudley Bus Station displaying X96-Dudley
The 18:50 from Norfolk Road is due to terminate at Dudley Bus Station at 19:33, so not untimetabled
This was about 13:30-13:45 so wouldn't be timetabled
Quote from: Nathan on March 15, 2014, 08:40:17 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 15, 2014, 08:29:20 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 15, 2014, 08:24:55 PM
2080 was parked up at Dudley Bus Station displaying X96-Dudley
The 18:50 from Norfolk Road is due to terminate at Dudley Bus Station at 19:33, so not untimetabled
This was about 13:30-13:45 so wouldn't be timetabled
Wouldn't be surprised Nathan, time keeping on the X96 has been awful again lately, they really need to do something about this route, maybe add in another board or even drop the Dudley to Wrens Nest part of the route.
I don't even know why X96 got extended to Wrens Nest... It's silly. 81 covers a part of the 206/207 circular. 27 could get back on the 541 route if X96 terminates in Dudley. Problem solved, I think lol.
Quote from: P419 EJW on March 15, 2014, 09:02:07 PM
I don't even know why X96 got extended to Wrens Nest... It's silly. 81 covers a part of the 206/207 circular. 27 could get back on the 541 route if X96 terminates in Dudley. Problem solved, I think lol.
It appears 2080 had done the Wrens Nest bit, run an X96E Wrens Nest to Dudley, then run private to make the 14:05 from Wollaston back to Wrens Nest
Quote from: P419 EJW on March 15, 2014, 09:02:07 PM
I don't even know why X96 got extended to Wrens Nest... It's silly. 81 covers a part of the 206/207 circular. 27 could get back on the 541 route if X96 terminates in Dudley. Problem solved, I think lol.
Well with only one minute at Wrens Nest and no time at the Wollaston Farm end, it doesn't stand much chance of keeping time. As you say, there are alternatives to Wrens Nest.
Several Untimetabled E workings on WN 2 this afternoon due to an incident on Cannock Road for in traffic to use Wednesfield Road.
Seen several 2E's-Showell Circus and E's to Wolverhampton
There was an ambulance blocking a road on wrens nest on the x96
Also parking problems down corbetts hospital blue badge double parking
966E Chelmsley Wood
Saw a 42** ALX400 bodied B7TL (too far away to ID fleet number) leave Birmingham CIT Centre at 15:00 on a 7E to Witton Square. Untimetabled I presume?
Quote from: Nathan on March 23, 2014, 05:44:07 PM
Saw a 42** ALX400 bodied B7TL (too far away to ID fleet number) leave Birmingham CIT Centre at 15:00 on a 7E to Witton Square. Untimetabled I presume?
Villa are playing at home, might be some sort of matchday extra, or adjusted because of extra traffic.
Quote from: Stu on March 23, 2014, 05:45:36 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 23, 2014, 05:44:07 PM
Saw a 42** ALX400 bodied B7TL (too far away to ID fleet number) leave Birmingham CIT Centre at 15:00 on a 7E to Witton Square. Untimetabled I presume?
Villa are playing at home, might be some sort of matchday extra, or adjusted because of extra traffic.
I think extras are put on on Saturdays as 7Es to Witton.
I had to run as a 33E to the Circle this afternoon, running 20 mins late
4584 departed Wolverhampton Bus Station just after 16:30 on a 126E to Edgbaston Five-ways
Quote from: Nathan on March 25, 2014, 06:31:13 PM
4584 departed Wolverhampton Bus Station just after 16:30 on a 126E to Edgebaston Fiveways
There will have been loads of them today. A combination of a broken down car at Paradise Circus and emergency roadworks at spaghetti junction managed to screw most of the city up
Quote from: Tony on March 25, 2014, 08:19:16 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 25, 2014, 06:31:13 PM
4584 departed Wolverhampton Bus Station just after 16:30 on a 126E to Edgebaston Fiveways
There will have been loads of them today. A combination of a broken down car at Paradise Circus and emergency roadworks at spaghetti junction managed to screw most of the city up
Well he did pull out late due to being looked at by an engineer so he departed later than he was supposed to
I have found myself the last 3 mornings working the 08.11 33 from City as an 'E' to Kingstanding Circle, as it is impossible to get into Birmingham on time with rush hour traffic on Kingstanding/Aldridge Road to Perry Barr making me at least 10 minutes late getting into City (Usually around 8.21am)
Here's a pic I took yesterday morning having a few minutes break before starting off back to City
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/13405175763/
Two leaving Colmore Row about 1410 / 1415 this afternoon.
Firstly BC 4623 operating 24E Punch Bowl, Court Oak Road. The bus had been parked up for about 10 minutes with no signs of a driver. He then came back with 2 inspectors.
WB 4701 82E Ladywood Spring Hill
Almost forgot. 997E to Perry Barr Wellhead Lane early afternoon, into City direction
Quote from: fleetline6477 on March 26, 2014, 06:52:32 PM
Two leaving Colmore Row about 1410 / 1415 this afternoon.
Firstly BC 4623 operating 24E Punch Bowl, Court Oak Road. The bus had been parked up for about 10 minutes with no signs of a driver. He then came back with 2 inspectors.
WB 4701 82E Ladywood Spring Hill
That 82E must of been very late to only run to Spring Hill, mind you I did see some bunching on the 82/87 between 13:00 and 13:30
1876 has just done a 66E to Erdington, from City, and gone dead back down towards Six Ways.
243E CRADLEY HEATH INTERCHANGE on the 16:07 243 which departed at 16:25 with the 16:27 243
Quote from: NXDom on March 27, 2014, 05:37:25 PM
243E CRADLEY HEATH INTERCHANGE on the 16:07 243 which departed at 16:25 with the 16:27 243
I can't understand why they do that, surely it would be better to send the bus to Merry Hill empty to take up it next working.
There was a 28E to Bagot Arms this evening (From Erdington direction). 28s running late all over the place
4196 on 141E to Halesowen
Quote from: vinh1000 on March 27, 2014, 08:13:30 PM
4196 on 141E to Halesowen
What time did you see this and which direction was it coming from? (Merry Hill or B'ham?)
Quote from: Nathan on March 27, 2014, 08:25:07 PM
Quote from: vinh1000 on March 27, 2014, 08:13:30 PM
4196 on 141E to Halesowen
What time did you see this and which direction was it coming from? (Merry Hill or B'ham?)
BHAM
7:00pm
63E - Northfield
13:05 a 126E from brum to Dudley showing Via roseville
Quote from: NXDom on March 29, 2014, 01:09:48 PM
13:05 a 126E from brum to Dudley showing Via roseville
Bus was 4553.
there was an 83E to Grove Lane around 4:30 by Cape Hill
37E - Acocks Green from Birmingham, seen at 19:48
Quote from: OH25 on March 29, 2014, 05:38:26 PM
there was an 83E to Grove Lane around 4:30 by Cape Hill
Out of interest, was it a President, ALX or Gemini you saw?
Quote from: Sh4318 on March 30, 2014, 02:27:45 AM
Quote from: OH25 on March 29, 2014, 05:38:26 PM
there was an 83E to Grove Lane around 4:30 by Cape Hill
Out of interest, was it a President, ALX or Gemini you saw?
It was a president
4904 on a 60E to South Yardley, Swan Island, on Moor St this afternoon. Is this normal for a Sunday?
Quote from: Mike K on March 30, 2014, 08:21:11 PM
4904 on a 60E to South Yardley, Swan Island, on Moor St this afternoon. Is this normal for a Sunday?
Isn't every other journey a 60E on a Sunday? Don't know if those Short journeys terminate at the Swan Island?
EDIT: Looking at the timetable it is normal on a Sunday :)
http://jp.networkwestmidlands.com/centro/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&hideBannerInfo=1&command=direct&line=33060&net=cen&project=y11&sup=A&lineVer=4&itdLPxx_direction=H&itdLPxx_line=33060&itdLPxx_net=cen&itdLPxx_project=y11&itdLPxx_sup=A&itdLPxx_lineVer=4&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_debug=
Quote from: Nathan on March 30, 2014, 08:25:43 PM
Quote from: Mike K on March 30, 2014, 08:21:11 PM
4904 on a 60E to South Yardley, Swan Island, on Moor St this afternoon. Is this normal for a Sunday?
Isn't every other journey a 60E on a Sunday? Don't know if those Short journeys terminate at the Swan Island?
EDIT: Looking at the timetable it is normal on a Sunday :)
http://jp.networkwestmidlands.com/centro/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&hideBannerInfo=1&command=direct&line=33060&net=cen&project=y11&sup=A&lineVer=4&itdLPxx_direction=H&itdLPxx_line=33060&itdLPxx_net=cen&itdLPxx_project=y11&itdLPxx_sup=A&itdLPxx_lineVer=4&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_debug=
Thanks for the info. Not venturing over the east side too often I hadn't realised that.
4313 did a 529E trip to Willenhall this afternoon about 16:10. It was pulled off the 59 and loaded at Stand G (529 Stand is Q). I think it ran dead back to W'ton from Willenhall?
817 on a 46E fom WB to Hamstead, Green Lane. Left at 16.15
5514 did a 59E to Ashmore Park this afternoon running dead back to W'ton
I saw a 301E to Bloxwich around 1500 this afternoon.
Dunno what number but it was a Scania!
Yesterday;
37E - Solihull Town
today;
11E (C) - Acocks Green
Quote from: Nathan4775 on April 08, 2014, 01:52:45 PM
Yesterday;
37E - Solihull Town
today;
11E (C) - Acocks Green
What time were both of those?
(a lot of 11 journeys do terminate at Acocks Green ;))
Quote from: Stu on April 08, 2014, 06:48:02 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on April 08, 2014, 01:52:45 PM
Yesterday;
37E - Solihull Town
today;
11E (C) - Acocks Green
What time were both of those?
(a lot of 11 journeys do terminate at Acocks Green ;))
the 11 trip was at 13:12 + 37 was about 6ish
4587 left W'ton about 16:35 as a 529E short trip to Willenhall this afternoon. Also around about the same time 4536 did a 59E to Ash more Park then ran dead back to Wolverhampton Bus Station
Quote from: Nathan4775 on April 08, 2014, 07:23:57 PM
Quote from: Stu on April 08, 2014, 06:48:02 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on April 08, 2014, 01:52:45 PM
Yesterday;
37E - Solihull Town
today;
11E (C) - Acocks Green
What time were both of those?
(a lot of 11 journeys do terminate at Acocks Green ;))
the 11 trip was at 13:12 + 37 was about 6ish
Oh ok, I'll let you off! ;)
There is one timetabled 37E to Solihull Town, which is the 07:17 ex-city journey, any others are adjusted to make up time.
The daytime 11E journey would probably have been an adjustment too.
both at 3:50pm in Birmingham:
4619 doing the 45E to Shannon Road (where is this by the way?)
2134 doing the 98E to Queen Elizabeth Main Entrance
Quote from: OH25 on April 11, 2014, 06:18:00 PM
both at 3:50pm in Birmingham:
4619 doing the 45E to Shannon Road (where is this by the way?)
2134 doing the 98E to Queen Elizabeth Main Entrance
Shannon Road is in Hawkesley.
Yesterday, there was a 45E or 47E to Longbridge Lane
There was a 244E to halesowen earlier with 1665 following on a 244 to halesowen (that's what the Merc rollers was displaying)
60E in Birmingham around 4, don't know where it was going. Probably Swan Island
Quote from: Stu on April 11, 2014, 06:39:30 PM
Quote from: OH25 on April 11, 2014, 06:18:00 PM
both at 3:50pm in Birmingham:
4619 doing the 45E to Shannon Road (where is this by the way?)
2134 doing the 98E to Queen Elizabeth Main Entrance
Shannon Road is in Hawkesley.
the 45 doesn't go to Hawkesley does it?
Quote from: OH25 on April 11, 2014, 08:26:29 PM
Quote from: Stu on April 11, 2014, 06:39:30 PM
Quote from: OH25 on April 11, 2014, 06:18:00 PM
both at 3:50pm in Birmingham:
4619 doing the 45E to Shannon Road (where is this by the way?)
2134 doing the 98E to Queen Elizabeth Main Entrance
Shannon Road is in Hawkesley.
the 45 doesn't go to Hawkesley does it?
Yeah it does, goes just down the road from the 27/35 terminus
Quote from: OH25 on April 11, 2014, 08:26:29 PM
Quote from: Stu on April 11, 2014, 06:39:30 PM
Quote from: OH25 on April 11, 2014, 06:18:00 PM
both at 3:50pm in Birmingham:
4619 doing the 45E to Shannon Road (where is this by the way?)
2134 doing the 98E to Queen Elizabeth Main Entrance
Shannon Road is in Hawkesley.
the 45 doesn't go to Hawkesley does it?
Yes, it does.
The Hawkesley terminus (27,35,84) is at the opposite end of Shannon road, the 45 turns off at Foyle Road, which to the best of my knowledge is classed as Kings Norton isn't it? The Redditch Road section would be Hawkesley though.
Quote from: trident4370 on April 11, 2014, 08:37:42 PM
The Hawkesley terminus (27,35,84) is at the opposite end of Shannon road, the 45 turns off at Foyle Road, which to the best of my knowledge is classed as Kings Norton isn't it?
The 45 does serve Shannon Road doesn't it? The 35 terminus is Hawkesley, Shannon Road
Quote from: Sh4318 on April 11, 2014, 08:40:38 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on April 11, 2014, 08:37:42 PM
The Hawkesley terminus (27,35,84) is at the opposite end of Shannon road, the 45 turns off at Foyle Road, which to the best of my knowledge is classed as Kings Norton isn't it?
The 45 does serve Shannon Road doesn't it? The 35 terminus is Hawkesley, Shannon Road
It does serve it but only for 2 stops at the very far end, the 35 terminus is at the heart of Hawkesley, at the opposite end? If I'm wrong I'm wrong but I always thought that end was Kings Norton territory. Of course, some would also argue that end could be called Pool Farm so it is a very odd place.
Quote from: trident4370 on April 11, 2014, 08:42:26 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on April 11, 2014, 08:40:38 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on April 11, 2014, 08:37:42 PM
The Hawkesley terminus (27,35,84) is at the opposite end of Shannon road, the 45 turns off at Foyle Road, which to the best of my knowledge is classed as Kings Norton isn't it?
The 45 does serve Shannon Road doesn't it? The 35 terminus is Hawkesley, Shannon Road
It does serve it but only for 2 stops at the very far end, the 35 terminus is at the heart of Hawkesley, at the opposite end? If I'm wrong I'm wrong but I always thought that end was Kings Norton territory. Of course, some would also argue that end could be called Pool Farm so it is a very odd place.
I've always been confused by that area, does Hawkesley consist of one road, because the 49 virtually follows the 35 along that area and doesn't have Hawkesley in its via points. Maybe I'm just confusing myself, lol
Quote from: Sh4318 on April 11, 2014, 08:51:29 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on April 11, 2014, 08:42:26 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on April 11, 2014, 08:40:38 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on April 11, 2014, 08:37:42 PM
The Hawkesley terminus (27,35,84) is at the opposite end of Shannon road, the 45 turns off at Foyle Road, which to the best of my knowledge is classed as Kings Norton isn't it?
The 45 does serve Shannon Road doesn't it? The 35 terminus is Hawkesley, Shannon Road
It does serve it but only for 2 stops at the very far end, the 35 terminus is at the heart of Hawkesley, at the opposite end? If I'm wrong I'm wrong but I always thought that end was Kings Norton territory. Of course, some would also argue that end could be called Pool Farm so it is a very odd place.
I've always been confused by that area, does Hawkesley consist of one road, because the 49 virtually follows the 35 along that area and doesn't have Hawkesley in its via points. Maybe I'm just confusing myself, lol
The 45 and 49 don't
quite serve Hawkesley. The northern end of Shannon Road and Foyle Road are Kings Norton. Hawkesley is an estate built in the late 1970s/early 1980s. Meadowsweet Avenue is about the northern limit of Hawkesley, Longdales Road the outer edge of it. Yes it's confusing, but look for the late 70s housing and generally that's Hawkesley!
Quote from: OH25 on April 11, 2014, 06:18:00 PM
both at 3:50pm in Birmingham:
2134 doing the 98E to Queen Elizabeth Main Entrance
There is a regular daily 98E City to QEH leaving City about 1540.
966E The Fort
120e Langley Merrivale
An Arriva 110 to Erdington Six Ways (On Gemini 4202), came into Sutton this afternoon around half 3ish
11E to Acocks Green at around 1pm
Saw a 67E to Spitfire Island yesterday afternoon. First time I've seen this.
71E Solihull Town Centre 07:38 seen at The Radley's
I did get the number of the B7 that displayed this but I've forgotten it.
4801, 19:15 9E Stourbridge to Edgbaston Five Ways
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 01, 2014, 07:40:49 PM
4801, 19:15 9E Stourbridge to Edgbaston Five Ways
The 9s are buggered again, running in threes
I saw an 87E yesterday going to Ladywood Spring Hill in Smethwick coming from the Dudley direction
it was in the evening about 6ish (if I remember correctly)
There was a 50E to Alcester Road the other day
The 21:10 9 from Birmingham (4805) ran as a 9E to Halesowen. It was running over 20 minutes late and had actually been overtaken by the 21:30 9 (4826).
I wonder whether it ran private to Stourbridge to do the 22:20 9 or if it waited in Halesowen to take up the same journey at 22:41. If the latter, then there would have been a 1 hour gap in 9s from Stourbridge.
One from late last Saturday afternoon I forgot to post about
4018 pulled into Wolverhampton Bus Station displaying 32E-Bushbury Hill
Kempthorne Avenue
Are 311/ 313 shorts between Dudley & Wednesbury common?
Just spotted 2 in succession.
4609 126E Birmingham to Dudley. seen at Burnt tree junction about 19:15 last night, with another one right behind it heading to Wolverhampton
9E Edgbaston Five Ways -Seen Manor Way 12:55
Quote from: Rob H on May 05, 2014, 01:26:21 PM
9E Edgbaston Five Ways -Seen Manor Way 12:55
Bus was 4809 followed by 4811 on a full 9
71E Chelmsley Wood Shopping Centre
907E - New Oscott seen leaving birmingham at 16:16
Major disruption caused by traffic accident in Coventry this morning resulted in these Observations.
7E Allesley Bexfield Close (!)
13E Radford Jubilee Crescent
21E Gallagher Retail Park
Before I left for work this morning, spotted a 1E showing 'Shirley Road, Olton Boulevard East' going past my house.
14E - Marston Green. Around 1:20 on Priory Queensway
Quote from: Sh4318 on May 11, 2014, 07:12:53 PM
14E - Marston Green. Around 1:20 on Priory Queensway
think that was 4167 on that
RTC in Perry Barr causing at least 4 33Es to Kingstanding this afternoon
Also saw a 936E to Kingstanding, coming from Aldridge direction (might not be related)
16E Priory Queensway
4585 left Wolverhampton Bus Station at 16:20 as a 126E to "Bearwood Kings Head'. It was adjusted because it had been previously broken down and seen to by an engineer (See Bus Breakdowns thread)
1853 on a 4E to West Bromwich
X51 Scott arms only
Quote from: vinh1000 on May 19, 2014, 07:57:45 AM
X51 Scott arms only
There is one timetabled journey to Scott Arms Mon-Fri. Leaves Brum at 7.50am, if it's this one you saw
@John ok
what about 11E Selly Oak Bristol Road
The 16.32 48 from West Bromwich was a short working to Weoley Castle. 4267 the vehicle.
141E Quinton (Stag)
Quote from: Steve3229vp on May 19, 2014, 06:16:46 PM
141E Quinton (Stag)
From where? That one must've been really late
4722 - just left Birmingham on a 50E to Alcester ROad/Lane
Quote from: Nathan4775 on May 21, 2014, 01:24:46 PM
4722 - just left Birmingham on a 50E to Alcester ROad/Lane
I think you mean Alcester Lanes End
Quote from: Tony on May 21, 2014, 01:42:01 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on May 21, 2014, 01:24:46 PM
4722 - just left Birmingham on a 50E to Alcester ROad/Lane
I think you mean Alcester Lanes End
Aren't there numerous short 50E workings to Alcester Lanes End each day? There certainly used to be but I haven't used the 50 in a while.
Quote from: Mike K on May 21, 2014, 07:14:07 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 21, 2014, 01:42:01 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on May 21, 2014, 01:24:46 PM
4722 - just left Birmingham on a 50E to Alcester ROad/Lane
I think you mean Alcester Lanes End
Aren't there numerous short 50E workings to Alcester Lanes End each day? There certainly used to be but I haven't used the 50 in a while.
There is indeed, can't see them on any timetable I look at but they are definitely scheduled on some running boards.
31E to Gospel Oak. Saw about ten minutes ago in Acocks Green.
2016 seen on Hagley Rd at 15:45 working a 126E to Broad St, Sheepcote St
Also 4607 worked a 126 to Dudley from B'ham then ran dead to Wolverhampton.
99E to New St Station, St Martins Queensway
804 at 4:10 in Harborne
4843 was driven into garage by an engineer at 4pm this afternoon, still with 33E Kingstanding on the LEDs
2066 i think it was worked a 2E to Wolverhampton City Centre about lunchtime
There was a 9E to Bearwood Kings Head yesterday and loads of 9Es to Five Ways the day before
4562 ran as a 126E to Dudley from Birmingham yesterday afternoon before running Not In Service back to Wolverhampton
I saw a 126 Edgbaston Five Ways earlier
907E to New Oscott about 16:15 on College Road
4811 9E Colley Gate
PE 4347 operating a 241E Blackheath coming out of Halesowen at the bottom of Manor Way approx. 1405. Probably the 1335 25 mins late.
Quote from: fleetline6477 on May 30, 2014, 06:47:34 PM
PE 4347 operating a 241E Blackheath coming out of Halesowen at the bottom of Manor Way approx. 1405. Probably the 1335 25 mins late.
The 13:35 was operated by 4195 which was on time (or round about).
4347 was running on the 140 together with 4353 on the 241 about 13:25-13:30 heading towards Dudley in Blackheath. So 4347 should have done the 13:23 241 ex Dudley then 14:05 ex Halesown
4511 doing the 48E to Bearwood
seen in West Bromwich at 7:40
Quote from: OH25 on May 30, 2014, 08:49:40 PM
4511 doing the 48E to Bearwood
seen in West Bromwich at 7:40
There is a 7:45 timetabled short working to Bearwood from West Bromwich. On Sunday, there is a 5:45 timetabled short working to QE Hospital:
http://nxbus.co.uk/files/NXWestMids/current_timetables/B048h_28Apr13.pdf
Quote from: fleetline6477 on May 30, 2014, 06:47:34 PM
PE 4347 operating a 241E Blackheath coming out of Halesowen at the bottom of Manor Way approx. 1405. Probably the 1335 25 mins late.
You know, only earlier I was thinking how I'd never seen a 241E.
WB 5E to New Oscott, Jockey Road around half 6, saw it in Pheasey coming from West Brom
Quote from: Sh4318 on May 30, 2014, 09:30:38 PM
Quote from: OH25 on May 30, 2014, 08:49:40 PM
4511 doing the 48E to Bearwood
seen in West Bromwich at 7:40
There is a 7:45 timetabled short working to Bearwood from West Bromwich. On Sunday, there is a 5:45 timetabled short working to QE Hospital:
http://nxbus.co.uk/files/NXWestMids/current_timetables/B048h_28Apr13.pdf
oh ok, I did not know that at all
it just seemed very unusual to me at the time
Quote from: Nathan on May 30, 2014, 07:25:05 PM
Quote from: fleetline6477 on May 30, 2014, 06:47:34 PM
PE 4347 operating a 241E Blackheath coming out of Halesowen at the bottom of Manor Way approx. 1405. Probably the 1335 25 mins late.
The 13:35 was operated by 4195 which was on time (or round about).
4347 was running on the 140 together with 4353 on the 241 about 13:25-13:30 heading towards Dudley in Blackheath. So 4347 should have done the 13:23 241 ex Dudley then 14:05 ex Halesown
It could have been working the 1405, it was probably 1410 when I saw it at the bottom of Manor Way just passed the Audi dealer - I wonder if he had the destination set wrong??
4814 on a 9E to Bearwood, Kings Head, leaving Halesowen at 14:37.
there was a 46E I saw yesterday that was going to Smethwick, West Cross
can't remember the time though (I believe it was in the morning)
4818 141E Edgbaston Five Ways
Saw a 46E to Hamstead Green Lane the other day
Yesterday:
4829 on 9E to Edgbaston, probably left Halesowen some time around 2pm (I got on at 2:10ish)
120E to Bearwood left Dudley at about 18:10 (I think)
Saw 4024 by Selfridges this afternoon at 15:15 operating a 73E to Yardley,Yew Tree
4555 worked a 126E-Edgbaston this afternoon. Departed Wolverhampton Bus Station about 16:15
71E Chelmsley Wood Shopping Centre from Sutton Coldfield seen it in CW terminating bus was 2107
Not sure if this is timetabled or not, saw 48xx serving 51E to Six Ways at 17:37.
Quote from: P419 EJW on June 10, 2014, 05:42:23 PM
Not sure if this is timetabled or not, saw 48xx serving 51E to Six Ways at 17:37.
Don't think it is, haven't seen a 51E to Six Ways for a long time now
4261 worked a 65E to Short Heath this morning
5511 ran as a 59E to Ashmore Park before running back to W'ton Private this afternoon.
7E - Castle Bromwich Heathland Avenue
@JoNi 72E? Castle Bromwich shorts are timetabled
80E to Edgbaston Five Ways at 6:45pm on Dudley Rd
Apologies for my typing it was a 71E to Castle Bromwich.
Also saw 37E going to Sparkbrook Highgate Road Junction while in Acocks Green.
Quote from: JoNi on June 12, 2014, 07:54:27 PM
Also saw 37E going to Sparkbrook Highgate Road Junction while in Acocks Green.
Possibly due to the bus fire on the Stratford Rd. I imagine the traffic around there while the road was closed would have been terrible
Quote from: John on June 12, 2014, 07:56:20 PM
Quote from: JoNi on June 12, 2014, 07:54:27 PM
Also saw 37E going to Sparkbrook Highgate Road Junction while in Acocks Green.
Possibly due to the bus fire on the Stratford Rd. I imagine the traffic around there while the road was closed would have been terrible
Was it a President displaying that? Passed one displaying that on my way home in Tyseley about 6pm, but the Stratford Road was already open again by then.
It was a President but didn't get the number as it was overtaking a 1E I was trying to board in the middle of the road, because stand was obstructed by 30.
120E to Langley?
Quote from: Matt on June 17, 2014, 04:28:26 PM
120E to Langley?
If its the Merrivale, i think they are timetabled at rush hour.
@bususer12,
@Matt yeah, they are timetabled, 4 PM peak journeys a day:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ix5ihw0uyv8
6E to hall green just left Birmingham
Around 13:15 there was an 11E to Acocks Green & 37E solihull town centre
9E Colley Gate
140E Quinton Toby Carvery (but actually terminated at the Stag)
@Matt That's a surprise to me, didn't think Colley Gate would be on the display?
Wonder what other gems are programmed into PE blinds, 9E Stambermill i wonder? :D :D :D
@Stuharris 6360 it's the second time I've seen it recently actually
Quote from: Matt on June 19, 2014, 08:24:34 PM
9E Colley Gate
140E Quinton Toby Carvery (but actually terminated at the Stag)
The Stag is a Toby Carvery isn't it?
Quote from: Stu on June 20, 2014, 05:26:01 PM
Quote from: Matt on June 19, 2014, 08:24:34 PM
9E Colley Gate
140E Quinton Toby Carvery (but actually terminated at the Stag)
The Stag is a Toby Carvery isn't it?
The Stag is a Sizzling pub, the Toby Carvery is the former Holly Bush. Lots of 9Es to Holly Bush Hagley Road West in the days of Quinton garage but I've not known one terminate there for years.
Quote from: Mike K on June 20, 2014, 06:24:20 PM
Quote from: Stu on June 20, 2014, 05:26:01 PM
Quote from: Matt on June 19, 2014, 08:24:34 PM
9E Colley Gate
140E Quinton Toby Carvery (but actually terminated at the Stag)
The Stag is a Toby Carvery isn't it?
The Stag is a Sizzling pub, the Toby Carvery is the former Holly Bush. Lots of 9Es to Holly Bush Hagley Road West in the days of Quinton garage but I've not known one terminate there for years.
How times have changed! I'm sure the Stag did used to be a Toby Carvery, at least it was the last (and only!) time I ate there! :D
87E to Tividale Hill Road in Oldbury at around 2pm
About half 2 I saw 4484 going up Moor St in town displaying "16E Church Lane Handsworth", maybe that's where it was going on it's way back out of town later I dunno but it's been a long time since I've seen that on a display.
Also, on me way home from the one stop about quarter to 8, 4737 pulled into Perry Barr bus station out of service, pulled up to the 51 stop and left in service as a 51, guessing it previously did an E working to Perry Barr, didn't see. Either way he must have been late cause he was hammering it up the Walsall road
4311 had a right bit of fun on the 126. Unfortunately I didn't have the times for this. It did a 126E to Dudley before running dead to Birmingham It then did a 126E to Dudley straight after then ran dead to Wolverhampton.
4313 worked a 126E-Bearwood,Kings Head this afternoon about 16:45
Quote from: Kevin on June 21, 2014, 10:00:51 PM
About half 2 I saw 4484 going up Moor St in town displaying "16E Church Lane Handsworth", maybe that's where it was going on it's way back out of town later I dunno but it's been a long time since I've seen that on a display.
Also, on me way home from the one stop about quarter to 8, 4737 pulled into Perry Barr bus station out of service, pulled up to the 51 stop and left in service as a 51, guessing it previously did an E working to Perry Barr, didn't see. Either way he must have been late cause he was hammering it up the Walsall road
Isnt 4737 at YW?
46E - Hamstead Green Lane, again. There was another 46 behind it
Quote from: Lukeee on June 23, 2014, 11:19:39 PM
Quote from: Kevin on June 21, 2014, 10:00:51 PM
About half 2 I saw 4484 going up Moor St in town displaying "16E Church Lane Handsworth", maybe that's where it was going on it's way back out of town later I dunno but it's been a long time since I've seen that on a display.
Also, on me way home from the one stop about quarter to 8, 4737 pulled into Perry Barr bus station out of service, pulled up to the 51 stop and left in service as a 51, guessing it previously did an E working to Perry Barr, didn't see. Either way he must have been late cause he was hammering it up the Walsall road
Isnt 4737 at YW?
4733 to 4737 went to WA, the rest of that batch went to YW.
Quote from: Mike K on June 24, 2014, 07:02:43 AM
Quote from: Lukeee on June 23, 2014, 11:19:39 PM
Quote from: Kevin on June 21, 2014, 10:00:51 PM
About half 2 I saw 4484 going up Moor St in town displaying "16E Church Lane Handsworth", maybe that's where it was going on it's way back out of town later I dunno but it's been a long time since I've seen that on a display.
Also, on me way home from the one stop about quarter to 8, 4737 pulled into Perry Barr bus station out of service, pulled up to the 51 stop and left in service as a 51, guessing it previously did an E working to Perry Barr, didn't see. Either way he must have been late cause he was hammering it up the Walsall road
Isnt 4737 at YW?
4733 to 4737 went to WA, the rest of that batch went to YW.
Oh whoops of course, I keep forgetting about them 5 at WA.
Noticed a 22E to California earlier.
Left work today, got to the Lichfield Road (Aston) about 17:40, checked me live bus times app and apparently the next bus was a 67 in 15 mins.... Worrying...
a few mins later, 4303 turned onto the Lichfield Rd from Cuckoo Road / star city direction, not in service. I assumed it was heading for the garage, see that a lot around about that time, but no it pulled up just short of the bus stop, driver got out checked around the bus, got back on, fiddled with the display control and pulled forwad displaying "67 city centre".
Empty bus into town!
Result!
Also, on the way, passed 6022 in a line of 3 67's displaying 67E Bagot Arms.
Something must have been up on that route this afternoon then!
Quote from: Kevin on June 26, 2014, 07:29:37 PM
Left work today, got to the Lichfield Road (Aston) about 17:40, checked me live bus times app and apparently the next bus was a 67 in 15 mins.... Worrying...
a few mins later, 4303 turned onto the Lichfield Rd from Cuckoo Road / star city direction, not in service. I assumed it was heading for the garage, see that a lot around about that time, but no it pulled up just short of the bus stop, driver got out checked around the bus, got back on, fiddled with the display control and pulled forwad displaying "67 city centre".
Empty bus into town!
Result!
Also, on the way, passed 6022 in a line of 3 67's displaying 67E Bagot Arms.
Something must have been up on that route this afternoon then!
I wonder if the roadworks at Spitfire have finally started. They were supposed to start on the 16th, but didn't
8E to Ladywood?
14E to Marston Green
Saw a couple of 2E Park Lane and 2E Wolverhamptons earlier
313e Wednesbury
2E-Park Lane Bus Garage yesterday afternoon
4862 just did a 51E to Scott arms
A WA Scania served 34E to Darlaston from Stowlawn, seen it arriving in Darlaston at 15:47.
141E Quinton Toby Carvery from Merry hill (I therefore assume that said carvery is the one at the bottom of the expressway section where in the towards halesowen direction they have to turn off to head up to the church)
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 03, 2014, 07:11:03 PM
141E Quinton Toby Carvery from Merry hill (I therefore assume that said carvery is the one at the bottom of the expressway section where in the towards halesowen direction they have to turn off to head up to the church)
@the trainbasher it's the former Holly Bush pub, junction of Hagley Road West and Quinton Lane. I think that's where you meant anyway.
Quote from: Mike K on July 03, 2014, 08:29:46 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 03, 2014, 07:11:03 PM
141E Quinton Toby Carvery from Merry hill (I therefore assume that said carvery is the one at the bottom of the expressway section where in the towards halesowen direction they have to turn off to head up to the church)
@the trainbasher it's the former Holly Bush pub, junction of Hagley Road West and Quinton Lane. I think that's where you meant anyway.
Deja vu?
Swear this debate has been had before, possibly for a 9E?
Quote from: Kevin on July 03, 2014, 10:28:54 PM
Quote from: Mike K on July 03, 2014, 08:29:46 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 03, 2014, 07:11:03 PM
141E Quinton Toby Carvery from Merry hill (I therefore assume that said carvery is the one at the bottom of the expressway section where in the towards halesowen direction they have to turn off to head up to the church)
@the trainbasher it's the former Holly Bush pub, junction of Hagley Road West and Quinton Lane. I think that's where you meant anyway.
Deja vu?
Swear this debate has been had before, possibly for a 9E?
@Kevin have we? I didn't know.
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 03, 2014, 10:32:14 PM
Quote from: Kevin on July 03, 2014, 10:28:54 PM
Quote from: Mike K on July 03, 2014, 08:29:46 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 03, 2014, 07:11:03 PM
141E Quinton Toby Carvery from Merry hill (I therefore assume that said carvery is the one at the bottom of the expressway section where in the towards halesowen direction they have to turn off to head up to the church)
@the trainbasher it's the former Holly Bush pub, junction of Hagley Road West and Quinton Lane. I think that's where you meant anyway.
Deja vu?
Swear this debate has been had before, possibly for a 9E?
@Kevin have we? I didn't know.
Trying to search for it... fruitless...
God knows where I remember it from then
Quote from: Kevin on July 03, 2014, 10:36:26 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 03, 2014, 10:32:14 PM
Quote from: Kevin on July 03, 2014, 10:28:54 PM
Quote from: Mike K on July 03, 2014, 08:29:46 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 03, 2014, 07:11:03 PM
141E Quinton Toby Carvery from Merry hill (I therefore assume that said carvery is the one at the bottom of the expressway section where in the towards halesowen direction they have to turn off to head up to the church)
@the trainbasher it's the former Holly Bush pub, junction of Hagley Road West and Quinton Lane. I think that's where you meant anyway.
Deja vu?
Swear this debate has been had before, possibly for a 9E?
@Kevin have we? I didn't know.
Trying to search for it... fruitless...
God knows where I remember it from then
Your not wrong
@Kevin, i remember it to, think it was only a couple of weeks ago.
Quote from: Mike K on June 20, 2014, 06:24:20 PM
Quote from: Stu on June 20, 2014, 05:26:01 PM
Quote from: Matt on June 19, 2014, 08:24:34 PM
9E Colley Gate
140E Quinton Toby Carvery (but actually terminated at the Stag)
The Stag is a Toby Carvery isn't it?
The Stag is a Sizzling pub, the Toby Carvery is the former Holly Bush. Lots of 9Es to Holly Bush Hagley Road West in the days of Quinton garage but I've not known one terminate there for years.
Found it
Glad to be of service on Quinton pub related queries.
4900 - 900E from Coventry to Airport
Was this an untimetabled E working
@Tony?
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/2001-2129/2120.html
Quote from: Mike K on July 03, 2014, 11:24:01 PM
Glad to be of service on Quinton pub related queries.
@Mike K - You must be too regular in them Mike haha. Always a go-to guy for anything Beer & Food ;)
Quote from: Nathan on July 04, 2014, 02:39:39 PM
Was this an untimetabled E working @Tony?
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/2001-2129/2120.html
Yup, no timetabled shorts to Olton Station. Only timetabled short journey from Brum is the 07:17 from Carrs Lane to Solihull Town. ;)
Is an 83E to Ladywood, Spring Hill right now seen at Summerfield Park unusual?
Have they never thought of doing 9 crew changes at Halesowen, saw a few 9s all bunched together again today.
Surely it would be easier to get services running back to time if 9s could change crew and turn at Halesowen?
@Stuharris 6360 it won't work because apparently the rota for the 9 covers the 246 too
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 04, 2014, 07:20:25 PM
@Stuharris 6360 it won't work because apparently the rota for the 9 covers the 246 too
X96 too now
Not till 20th July
9E five ways left stour about 20:30
Quote from: Matt on July 04, 2014, 07:22:56 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 04, 2014, 07:20:25 PM
@Stuharris 6360 it won't work because apparently the rota for the 9 covers the 246 too
X96 too now
My minds gone blank tonight (Need some rest) so sorry if it has been answered before:
What rota is the X96 on at Present? MH rota i presume?
Quote from: Nathan on July 04, 2014, 10:10:56 PM
Quote from: Matt on July 04, 2014, 07:22:56 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 04, 2014, 07:20:25 PM
@Stuharris 6360 it won't work because apparently the rota for the 9 covers the 246 too
X96 too now
My minds gone blank tonight (Need some rest) so sorry if it has been answered before:
What rota is the X96 on at Present? MH rota i presume?
Yes until 20th
Quote from: Stu on July 04, 2014, 06:22:53 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 04, 2014, 02:39:39 PM
Was this an untimetabled E working @Tony?
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/2001-2129/2120.html
Yup, no timetabled shorts to Olton Station. Only timetabled short journey from Brum is the 07:17 from Carrs Lane to Solihull Town. ;)
I can't remember two years ago! Diamond were still running to Olton Station then
Oh didn't realise the date. This is what comes up when you click on the latest link of 2120 so is there a photo missing?
Quote from: OH25 on July 04, 2014, 06:42:48 PM
Is an 83E to Ladywood, Spring Hill right now seen at Summerfield Park unusual?
Nope, that's not usual, only 83 shorts terminate at Cape Hill
1571 - 18E Canley due to 30 minutes late
4021 operated an 11E to Fallings Park some time early afternoon
Quote from: John on July 05, 2014, 06:14:38 PM
4021 operated an 11E to Fallings Park some time early afternoon
A Spectra operated an 11E to Fallings Park departing Wolverhampton Bus Station at about 16:30.
Was that the one you saw
@John?
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on July 05, 2014, 10:22:30 PM
Quote from: John on July 05, 2014, 06:14:38 PM
4021 operated an 11E to Fallings Park some time early afternoon
A Spectra operated an 11E to Fallings Park departing Wolverhampton Bus Station at about 16:30.
Was that the one you saw @John?
No, it was around noon. I got this pic of it on its inbound journey to the Bus Station https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/14557649466/, so it must have been around 12.10pm I saw the E working
4311 serving 126E to Dudley (would assume started from Birmingham), seen it passing on Birmingham New Road at 17:00, by where the old 238 used to cross over. Is this untimetabled?
@P419 EJW Not timetabled, probably due to the problems on Broad Street.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 08, 2014, 05:27:46 PM
@P419 EJW Not timetabled, probably due to the problems on Broad Street.
Okay, thanks. I saw a few of E workings in Birmingham. 120E to Langley, 904E to Sutton Coldfield.
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 08, 2014, 05:03:20 PM
4311 serving 126E to Dudley (would assume started from Birmingham), seen it passing on Birmingham New Road at 17:00, by where the old 238 used to cross over. Is this untimetabled?
283 mate :)
@NXDom depends on which side of Dudley it was depends on if was the old 283 side or old 238 side...
Quote from: NXDom on July 08, 2014, 06:08:23 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 08, 2014, 05:03:20 PM
4311 serving 126E to Dudley (would assume started from Birmingham), seen it passing on Birmingham New Road at 17:00, by where the old 238 used to cross over. Is this untimetabled?
283 mate :)
No, not 283. I do know what I'm talking about. The 238 used to cross over Birmingham New Road to get to Oldbury/Blackheath. Erm, trying to remember the name of that road. <Googles quickly> It's Newbury Lane/Portway Road.
4590 worked a 59E-Wednesfield about 4pm from Wolverhampton this afternoon.
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 08, 2014, 07:10:10 PM
Quote from: NXDom on July 08, 2014, 06:08:23 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 08, 2014, 05:03:20 PM
4311 serving 126E to Dudley (would assume started from Birmingham), seen it passing on Birmingham New Road at 17:00, by where the old 238 used to cross over. Is this untimetabled?
283 mate :)
No, not 283. I do know what I'm talking about. The 238 used to cross over Birmingham New Road to get to Oldbury/Blackheath. Erm, trying to remember the name of that road. <Googles quickly> It's Newbury Lane/Portway Road.
Oh ok mate my mistake wasn't sure on which side you meant :)
Quote from: NXDom on July 08, 2014, 07:45:56 PM
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Quote from: P419 EJW on July 08, 2014, 05:03:20 PM
4311 serving 126E to Dudley (would assume started from Birmingham), seen it passing on Birmingham New Road at 17:00, by where the old 238 used to cross over. Is this untimetabled?
283 mate :)
No, not 283. I do know what I'm talking about. The 238 used to cross over Birmingham New Road to get to Oldbury/Blackheath. Erm, trying to remember the name of that road. <Googles quickly> It's Newbury Lane/Portway Road.
Oh ok mate my mistake wasn't sure on which side you meant :)
No worries. Was hoping the hint of 238 crossing over helped. I had a moment of thought, and at the time I typed it down, I already passed that road. :( The 3G on the phone is utterly shit, it's slow and couldn't use the map until that comment. :) I love Wi-Fi at home.
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 08, 2014, 07:54:13 PM
Quote from: NXDom on July 08, 2014, 07:45:56 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 08, 2014, 07:10:10 PM
Quote from: NXDom on July 08, 2014, 06:08:23 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 08, 2014, 05:03:20 PM
4311 serving 126E to Dudley (would assume started from Birmingham), seen it passing on Birmingham New Road at 17:00, by where the old 238 used to cross over. Is this untimetabled?
283 mate :)
No, not 283. I do know what I'm talking about. The 238 used to cross over Birmingham New Road to get to Oldbury/Blackheath. Erm, trying to remember the name of that road. <Googles quickly> It's Newbury Lane/Portway Road.
Oh ok mate my mistake wasn't sure on which side you meant :)
No worries. Was hoping the hint of 238 crossing over helped. I had a moment of thought, and at the time I typed it down, I already passed that road. :( The 3G on the phone is utterly shit, it's slow and couldn't use the map until that comment. :) I love Wi-Fi at home.
Haha it's just confusing because the 238 and 283 went over the b'ham new road :) Just be greatful you have 3g i'm without it until tuesday, bloody limited date usage.
60E to Wagon Lane, seen at Moor St, around 4:30
Quote from: NXDom on July 08, 2014, 08:01:26 PM
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Quote from: NXDom on July 08, 2014, 06:08:23 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 08, 2014, 05:03:20 PM
4311 serving 126E to Dudley (would assume started from Birmingham), seen it passing on Birmingham New Road at 17:00, by where the old 238 used to cross over. Is this untimetabled?
283 mate :)
No, not 283. I do know what I'm talking about. The 238 used to cross over Birmingham New Road to get to Oldbury/Blackheath. Erm, trying to remember the name of that road. <Googles quickly> It's Newbury Lane/Portway Road.
Oh ok mate my mistake wasn't sure on which side you meant :)
No worries. Was hoping the hint of 238 crossing over helped. I had a moment of thought, and at the time I typed it down, I already passed that road. :( The 3G on the phone is utterly shit, it's slow and couldn't use the map until that comment. :) I love Wi-Fi at home.
Haha it's just confusing because the 238 and 283 went over the b'ham new road :) Just be greatful you have 3g i'm without it until tuesday, bloody limited date usage.
technically newbury lane leads to Wolverhampton road even though most people think it's birmingham new road.
8E to Five Ways about 15:25 - seen in Five Ways
2063 seen working a 126E to Broad St/Sheepcote St at 15:20 on B'ham New Rd
4587 also left Wolverhampton as a 126E to Sheepcote St just before 4PM
33E to Aston Six Ways about half an hour ago
4801 9E to Five Ways, Manor Lane about half 3
A 202* B7RLE worked an 11E-Fallings Park yesterday afternoon.
7e witton square
4366 was working a 59E earlier to "Deritend, Adderley Street".
2E to Showell Circus leaving Wolverhampton Bus Station at 16:03 today.
754 went out of West Bromwich Bus Station as a 47E to Carters Green not long ago
Noticed lately a number of 45s sitting out of service at the junction of Lickey Road and Leach Green Lane (i.e 4443 which is there now), are these short journeys or is there another reason for this?
Quote from: Nathan on July 18, 2014, 02:50:53 PM
754 went out of West Bromwich Bus Station as a 47E to Carters Green not long ago
Must have been an error on the destination setting, ran the correct 47 route right through to Wednesbury leaving West Bromwich and arriving Wednesbury on time
Quote from: Tony on July 18, 2014, 03:46:26 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 18, 2014, 02:50:53 PM
754 went out of West Bromwich Bus Station as a 47E to Carters Green not long ago
Must have been an error on the destination setting, ran the correct 47 route right through to Wednesbury leaving West Bromwich and arriving Wednesbury on time
Cheers Tony :) The display changed from as we arrived to Wednesbury but then it changed again to 47E-Carters Green
2020 is about to work an 81E-Dudley from Wolverhampton
around 15:30
74E Handsworth.
There was a 33E to Six Ways Aston, plus I had to change to a Kingstanding Circle. 33E halfway through Kingstanding. Very busy day today
I also saw 4291 on a 5E to Jockey Rd
Forgot about this. Not sure whether it's timetabled, I dont see it often: "24E to Town Hall" I doubt it's timetabled, can't say I know the timetable, but whenever I see this bus going past mine (Queens Park), it's usually a 'full' journey from the terminus to the City Centre...
2097 just arrived Stourbridge on a X96 Stourbridge
4807 is about to leave on a 9E Edgbaston Five Ways
'22E Harborne' seen on Colmore Row around 2:30
966E to Chelmsley Wood from Erdington earlier today
120E to Edgbaston Five Ways just left Dudley Bus Station
I saw an 82E to Ladywood earlier at Summerfield Park
4593 has just passed Burntree Tesco as a 126E into Dudley
And today (25th July)
4536 left Wolverhampton at 12:25 as a 126E-Bearwood Kings Head
4817 left Stourbridge Bus Station at 13:57 as a 9E however only saw the back of the bus so never saw where it was terminating.
It would most likely be a 9E to Bearwood or Five Ways i would imagine
Due to a protest passing Selfridges and through the City Centre:
1924 is about to a 6E to Hall Green Robin Hood Island
And 1796 is going to work a 17E-Yew Tree
One ive never seen before 27E Burton Road / The Broadway just left wolverhampton.
Quote from: Andrew on July 26, 2014, 06:15:47 PM
One ive never seen before 27E Burton Road / The Broadway just left wolverhampton.
That was one of the displays i was looking through at Park Lane last Sunday.
4568 is currently working a 126E to Bearwood Kings Head. Seen passing my bus (4313) on B'ham New Rd about 13:25
2073 has just left W'ton as a 6E-Pendeford Whitburn Ave.
Buses serving Waterloo Rd in W'ton are facing delays due to an Accident on Waterloo Rd/Ring Rd junction near Molinuex
Quote from: Nathan on July 28, 2014, 01:30:29 PM
4568 is currently working a 126E to Bearwood Kings Head. Seen passing my bus (4313) on B'ham New Rd about 13:25
Something I've wondered whenever I see these... Where would a short journey to Bearwood turn round? Can't do U-turns there can you?
Quote from: Kevin on July 28, 2014, 07:24:53 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 28, 2014, 01:30:29 PM
4568 is currently working a 126E to Bearwood Kings Head. Seen passing my bus (4313) on B'ham New Rd about 13:25
Something I've wondered whenever I see these... Where would a short journey to Bearwood turn round? Can't do U-turns there can you?
Not supposed to, but we know what NE drivers are like.
Quote from: Kevin on July 28, 2014, 07:24:53 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 28, 2014, 01:30:29 PM
4568 is currently working a 126E to Bearwood Kings Head. Seen passing my bus (4313) on B'ham New Rd about 13:25
Something I've wondered whenever I see these... Where would a short journey to Bearwood turn round? Can't do U-turns there can you?
I think it's been posted previously that a loop of Hagley Road, left Barnsley Road, left Sandon Road, left Rutland Road, left Bearwood Road and right back onto Hagley Road West is the route used.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 28, 2014, 07:36:16 PM
Quote from: Kevin on July 28, 2014, 07:24:53 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 28, 2014, 01:30:29 PM
4568 is currently working a 126E to Bearwood Kings Head. Seen passing my bus (4313) on B'ham New Rd about 13:25
Something I've wondered whenever I see these... Where would a short journey to Bearwood turn round? Can't do U-turns there can you?
Not supposed to, but we know what NE drivers are like.
Before making accusations like that, perhaps you might like to quote an example of a driver making an illegal u-turn
Basically the turn used is what the old 258/140 Sunday shorts used to do
I have seen them do it before at Bearwood, when the 140 used to terminate at Bearwood on Sunday, have seen them a few time u turn there, yes a while ago, but still just as illegal!
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 28, 2014, 07:44:56 PM
I have seen them do it before at Bearwood, when the 140 used to terminate at Bearwood on Sunday, have seen them a few time u turn there, yes a while ago, but still just as illegal!
So a few years back you saw someone make an illegal 'U-turn' so me, 2900, John, Karl and every NX driver is someone who doesn't care about the rules of the road?
That is what your post is saying. 'You know what NX drivers are like' that puts all 3000 or how every many it currently is in one category
Ok, so when i was going round the roundabout last week by Stourbridge Bus Station and the driver on the 276 coming down the road by the railway station didn't stop, just cut straight in front of me waving his hand is acceptable, what i am trying to point out is that there are good drivers on NE, but to say all of them are good is not right either.
On a forum like this, surely we have to have a balanced view.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 28, 2014, 07:59:51 PM
Ok, so when i was going round the roundabout last week by Stourbridge Bus Station and the driver on the 276 coming down the road by the railway station didn't stop, just cut straight in front of me waving his hand is acceptable, what i am trying to point out is that there are good drivers on NE, but to say all of them are good is not right either.
On a forum like this, surely we have to have a balanced view.
Yes, which is why I didn't just delete it and am having a debate with you. If you would have originally posted you know what 'a few NX drivers are like' I wouldn't have answered you back, but the phrase you used grouped everyone into that category
Quote from: Tony on July 28, 2014, 08:06:17 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 28, 2014, 07:59:51 PM
Ok, so when i was going round the roundabout last week by Stourbridge Bus Station and the driver on the 276 coming down the road by the railway station didn't stop, just cut straight in front of me waving his hand is acceptable, what i am trying to point out is that there are good drivers on NE, but to say all of them are good is not right either.
On a forum like this, surely we have to have a balanced view.
Yes, which is why I didn't just delete it and am having a debate with you. If you would have originally posted you know what 'a few NX drivers are like' I wouldn't have answered you back, but the phrase you used grouped everyone into that category
My apologies if it sounded to scatthing, to me sometimes we seem to have a go at a lot of other companies drivers, but it is rare that an NE driver is mentioned when it comes to driving standards.
Currently on board 4739 working a 2E to Warstock, however it could also be a case of displaying the wrong destination.
33E - Kingstanding Circle from Birmingham around 18:30
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 28, 2014, 08:10:42 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 28, 2014, 08:06:17 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 28, 2014, 07:59:51 PM
Ok, so when i was going round the roundabout last week by Stourbridge Bus Station and the driver on the 276 coming down the road by the railway station didn't stop, just cut straight in front of me waving his hand is acceptable, what i am trying to point out is that there are good drivers on NE, but to say all of them are good is not right either.
On a forum like this, surely we have to have a balanced view.
Yes, which is why I didn't just delete it and am having a debate with you. If you would have originally posted you know what 'a few NX drivers are like' I wouldn't have answered you back, but the phrase you used grouped everyone into that category
My apologies if it sounded to scatthing, to me sometimes we seem to have a go at a lot of other companies drivers, but it is rare that an NE driver is mentioned when it comes to driving standards.
Congratulations. Your posts hating on NX drivers have p1ssed me off. Well done.
Saw an 11E-Fallings Park (Would have terminated at The Scotlands) this afternoon.
4547 got cut back to dudley at 14:40 and ran dead to wolves.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on July 31, 2014, 07:44:11 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 28, 2014, 08:10:42 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 28, 2014, 08:06:17 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 28, 2014, 07:59:51 PM
Ok, so when i was going round the roundabout last week by Stourbridge Bus Station and the driver on the 276 coming down the road by the railway station didn't stop, just cut straight in front of me waving his hand is acceptable, what i am trying to point out is that there are good drivers on NE, but to say all of them are good is not right either.
On a forum like this, surely we have to have a balanced view.
Yes, which is why I didn't just delete it and am having a debate with you. If you would have originally posted you know what 'a few NX drivers are like' I wouldn't have answered you back, but the phrase you used grouped everyone into that category
My apologies if it sounded to scatthing, to me sometimes we seem to have a go at a lot of other companies drivers, but it is rare that an NE driver is mentioned when it comes to driving standards.
Congratulations. Your posts hating on NX drivers have p1ssed me off. Well done.
Where did i say i hate NE divers, i was just asking for balance on the forum. I have no doubt that you, Tony and all the other drivers on here, follow company standards on driving, and i did apologise if my original statement was scathing, but you have to admit that some drivers do silly things. In my example at Stourbridge Bus Station, what if it had not been me going round the roundabout, but a police car, then it would have been a more serious incident.
754 just left WB on a 42E to Tipton, Central Avenue. Not to be confused by the normal 42s to Tipton Rail Station
There's a 4E to West Bromwich I've spotted around 1730 so far this week.
Is the Caldmore/ Fullbrook roadworks causing much problems?
Not sure if this is the right place to post this but saw one of the omnicitiy deckers displaying 46E perry Barr garage, just looked odd as all 46 journeys terminate at perry Barr
4524 on 74E Hockley
Saw a 246E-Russell's Hall Hosp depart about 15-20 mins ago from Dudley Bus Station
2011 in Wolverhampton Bus Station doing an 81E to Dudley
Quote from: OH25 on August 09, 2014, 06:31:39 PM
2011 in Wolverhampton Bus Station doing an 81E to Dudley
If you are referring to now then the 18:35 departure from Wolverhampton is scheduled to work an 81E to Dudley
Quote from: Nathan on August 09, 2014, 06:52:49 PM
Quote from: OH25 on August 09, 2014, 06:31:39 PM
2011 in Wolverhampton Bus Station doing an 81E to Dudley
If you are referring to now then the 18:35 departure from Wolverhampton is scheduled to work an 81E to Dudley
Ahh ok, I didn't know I was just out and about around Wolves
4564 is right in front of me working a 126E-Bearwood Kings Head
4494 just noted leaving Birmingham on a 7E to College Road Crossways.
Just saw 4698 go round the island on the inner circle by Currys in Highgate displaying 50E Highgate. No idea which direction it came from but following it up to where the 50 route crosses it seemed to go towards the city.
4820 9E Bearwood Kings Head
2093 on a 120E to five ways
4941 - 60E South Yardley (Yardley Swan) From Cranes Park
4684 just turned round at Scott Arms to head back up to Walsall, came in not in service though, not sure if it went back in service or not
16E - Hamstead Village
33E to 'Aston Six Ways' Monday Afternoon
Spotted a 87E to Oldbury just after 4pm from City. Never noticed one before. Is this an untimetabled short working?
Quote from: Gareth on August 26, 2014, 06:10:26 PM
Spotted a 87E to Oldbury just after 4pm from City. Never noticed one before. Is this an untimetabled short working?
Looks like it, as the only timetabled short from City to Oldbury is the last one of the day:
http://jp.networkwestmidlands.com/centro/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&hideBannerInfo=1&command=direct&line=33087&net=cen&project=y11&sup=A&lineVer=6&itdLPxx_direction=H&itdLPxx_line=33087&itdLPxx_net=cen&itdLPxx_project=y11&itdLPxx_sup=A&itdLPxx_lineVer=6&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_debug=
Quote from: Gareth on August 26, 2014, 06:10:26 PM
Spotted a 87E to Oldbury just after 4pm from City. Never noticed one before. Is this an untimetabled short working?
I saw that too. The bus was 4716
4913-957E doing Solihull-Bull Ring markets this morning
Bull ring market
Just passed a 72E to Chemsley Wood out on city...there again with the congestion in city I'm not shocked. 20 minutes to get from distressway to moor street route Dartmouth Circus on this nx332
60E - Swan Centre From Birmingham
4513 - noted at 1542 outside city hospital - 82E Cape Hill
51E to Aston Six Ways. I guess due to the awful conditions in Birmingham
Spotted at about 1.10pm today a 35E near Parsons Hill to Cannon Hill Park
29E to northfield at 1:00 harbourne
Saw a 11E-Fallings Park earlier on. The bus was 4012
2144-58E Birmingham-Bordseley Circus at 1640
Around 2.15pm 7025 was seen in the city centre displaying 72E Bromford, Drews Lane. Never seen that variation before.
4044 left West Brom around 1.45 this afternoon on a 5E to New Oscott
126E to Broad Street / Sheepcote street this morning about 11:00. The bus was a spectra
4129 displayed "77 George Frederick Road" (surprised there was no 77E). Seen it in Walsall Bus Station at 13:07.
Saw a 966E to airport earlier in castle brom. Must be the Chester Road road works.
758 left WB at 17.25 on a 121E.... to Oldbury. That's a very short working.
Bearwood interchange- 126E dudley 12:15 ish
Just coming over the Birchfield flyover, and I saw a Gemini coming from Heathfield Rd showing "46E Perry Barr Garage"
How does that count as an E working? It goes beyond where it route itself actually terminates
Quote from: Kevin on September 23, 2014, 08:00:42 AM
Just coming over the Birchfield flyover, and I saw a Gemini coming from Heathfield Rd showing "46E Perry Barr Garage"
How does that count as an E working? It goes beyond where it route itself actually terminates
E stands for 'exception' to the normal route, there have been a couple of 'E's in the past that have been longer than the main route
4297 has just left Birmingham on a 74E to Great Bridge.
Meant to post this yesterday ,but had a bit of a wifi blackout, so...
508 on 25E to Bushbury Hill at about 1435, not sure on the time, Nathan was with me and he should remember the time, think the driver was extremely late as he seemed to be in a rush to get everyone on
29E to Allen's Cross, Egghill Lane. Harborne and Hagley Rd services all over the place this morning due to Broad St diversion, roadworks at Hagley Rd / Wolverhampton Rd junction etc.
Just saw a 75E to Handsworth, Island Road
I'm sure it was only the 74E that did this short journey
Not sure if there's been a timetable change, hold ups on the route or just something I've never seen before, but around 3pm in the City Centre there where Two possible three 16E's to Priory Queensway, with one, possibly two of them laying over in Park Street and another 16E to Hamstead Village in the other direction.
Ah! Just seen Tony's post about an accident in Digbeth.
There were 2 3's going to Shirley at the same time and 2 2's going to Birmingham at the same time.
Guessing the air ambulance at the childrens hospital has resulted in more than this, but a 67 just went past me by salford circus working short to the bagot arms
4967 yesterday on the 74e going to Handsworthhttps://flic.kr/p/psoLht
Quote from: Dutsey on September 30, 2014, 06:35:13 AM
4967 yesterday on the 74e going to Handsworthhttps://flic.kr/p/psoLht
Those are timetabled
4913 'Maria' - 957E Solihull Touchwood Centre - Seen by The Olton Tavern @ 09:40
4904 on a 24E to Harborne this morning. Traffic was far worse than yesterday so Harborne and Hagley Rd services were worse than ever. 1 hour 40 mins trip from Harborne, drop daughter off in Quinton, then into city centre. Nice.
Just seen a 140E to Quinton Church from Dudley in Quinton.
Lots of 9Es this morning (besides the usual Halesowen ones), and followed one home from Five Ways. Traffic at Beech Lanes Cross is awful - think I'll get the 23 and walk tomorrow!
4812 on a 9E working to Edgbaston Five Ways going through Lye at 13:15.
2070 did a 126E cant remember the time i think it was 6pm
Quote from: jack4325 on October 05, 2014, 09:21:40 AM
2070 did a 126E cant remember the time i think it was 6pm
To Dudley. Timetabled i think
Quote from: Nathan on October 05, 2014, 09:29:08 AM
Quote from: jack4325 on October 05, 2014, 09:21:40 AM
2070 did a 126E cant remember the time i think it was 6pm
To Dudley. Timetabled i think
Yep that's timetabled every other 126 on an evening is to Dudley.
Just pasted a 126E to Broad Street/ Sheepcote Street
5E Marshall Lake Road (Stratford Road) on Carrs Lane at about 4.20 on Friday afternoon
2090 doing the 246E to Russell's Hall Hospital
4722 currently on a 35E to Pool Farm.
today alone ive seen:
126E Dudley (from bham)
126E Broad Street/Shepcote Street
126E Bearwood Kings Head
141E Halesowen (From bham)
As some of you may guess I now work on the hagley road...... its brilliant getting to and from work at the moment I tell you that
Seen 966E to Fort Shopping Centre yesterday around 4.30ish.
4591 - 126E Dudley - from Birmingham @ 10:17
Quote from: Rob2832 on October 09, 2014, 02:04:45 PM
4591 - 126E Dudley - from Birmingham @ 10:17
I'm sure that I saw 4591 pass my school earlier on the 59....
Quote from: Nathan on October 09, 2014, 03:08:41 PM
Quote from: Rob2832 on October 09, 2014, 02:04:45 PM
4591 - 126E Dudley - from Birmingham @ 10:17
I'm sure that I saw 4591 pass my school earlier on the 59....
I was on it on the WN59 getting to school @0740!
Quote from: Nathan on October 09, 2014, 03:08:41 PM
Quote from: Rob2832 on October 09, 2014, 02:04:45 PM
4591 - 126E Dudley - from Birmingham @ 10:17
I'm sure that I saw 4591 pass my school earlier on the 59....
You did, it was 4561 that did the 126E
4577 on 529E to Willenhall. Seen it in Wolverhampton Bus Station at 14:36.
Quote from: P419 EJW on October 10, 2014, 02:47:39 PM
4577 on 529E to Willenhall. Seen it in Wolverhampton Bus Station at 14:36.
Yep I was talking to the inspectors. Five of them were bunching!
Quote from: P419 EJW on October 10, 2014, 02:47:39 PM
4577 on 529E to Willenhall. Seen it in Wolverhampton Bus Station at 14:36.
Seems like they must've had problems cause i saw 4591 on a 529E to Willenhall in Wolverhampton bus stn @1625 or there about
4901 on a 900E to the Airport from Coventry at 4.00 this afternoon followed not long after by 4897 on a full 900
Quote from: paul82 on October 12, 2014, 07:30:40 PM
4901 on a 900E to the Airport from Coventry at 4.00 this afternoon followed not long after by 4897 on a full 900
About an hour on from this all Coventry Rd services were in a worse mess due to a horrible smash involving 2 motorbikes and I think another vehicle at traffic lights in Hay Mills. Not long happened when I went past but already there were 2 957s, a 900 and a 60 in the queuing traffic.
Seen 5421 with 1E Wolverhampton from Dudley about 4.15 ish
Quote from: jack4325 on October 12, 2014, 07:52:26 PM
Seen 5421 with 1E Wolverhampton from Dudley about 4.15 ish
Timetabled Jack
Saw a 529E E Walsall to Willenhall this morning, approx 0920 ex Walsall
Obviously today, there were plenty of E workings, I saw a 46E (WB) to Hamstead Green Lane from West Brom (which had passed Green Lane though), then when the 16s were starting to get adjusted, one to Church Lane, Handsworth Wood from City, and a 16E to Hockley Circus from Hamstead.
This afternoon I saw a 33E to Perry Barr from Pheasey by Wellhead Lane, and a 997E also to Perry Barr passing James Watt College on the Aldridge Road on my way home
4944 - 957E Solihull Touchwood Centre seen at Yardley Swan Island around 09:05
Not sure if untimetabled, but never seen it before...
Must've been around 08:13 on Broad Street, when I saw a PN Trident on the 141E going to Birmingham Town Hall.
4048 on 5E to New Oscott, Jockey Road departing Bus stn at 1233
Bilston street island roadworks causing 529E to run to willenhall only
Quote from: Chris2301 on October 18, 2014, 12:35:51 PM
Bilston street island roadworks causing 529E to run to willenhall only
So no buses are running the full 529 route?
What about the 39 & 40, are they still operating their full route?
Quote from: Westy on October 18, 2014, 01:30:38 PM
Quote from: Chris2301 on October 18, 2014, 12:35:51 PM
Bilston street island roadworks causing 529E to run to willenhall only
So no buses are running the full 529 route?
What about the 39 & 40, are they still operating their full route?
Yes, 39 and 40 are normal. Some people get told by inspectors to catch 39 to Walsall instead of catching 529.
4682 just left Birmingham to Scott Arms Only on display
Saw a 126E to Bearwood Kings Head on Hill Street about 10-15 minutes ago
31E from Solihull to Acocks Green garage early afternoon, followed by the next City 31 a few minutes later. Traffic around Solihull and Shirley was awful today
Quote from: Westy on October 18, 2014, 01:30:38 PM
Quote from: Chris2301 on October 18, 2014, 12:35:51 PM
Bilston street island roadworks causing 529E to run to willenhall only
So no buses are running the full 529 route?
What about the 39 & 40, are they still operating their full route?
The 529 is running the complete route (very slowly), just the odd journey as a 529E
Quote from: Tony on October 18, 2014, 05:14:13 PM
Quote from: Westy on October 18, 2014, 01:30:38 PM
Quote from: Chris2301 on October 18, 2014, 12:35:51 PM
Bilston street island roadworks causing 529E to run to willenhall only
So no buses are running the full 529 route?
What about the 39 & 40, are they still operating their full route?
The 529 is running the complete route (very slowly), just the odd journey as a 529E
Hows the 529 doing now? Was the bilston street island closure the main issue for the 529?
60E to Yardley Swan from Cranes Park this afternoon. Also saw a 900E to Sheldon earlier.
957E this afternoon passing through Lode Heath towards Solihull at around 2:10pm. Probably been short turned due to the queues forming from the roadwork near Yardley Swan.
60E Wagon Lane seen in City early afternoon
5517 on a 23E to Five Ways, passing through California just now.
126E Dudley, around 12:45 on birmingham new road.
Just seen an 80E to Ladywood pulling out of West Brom Bus Station
Also saw a 120E to Bearwood in Dudley about an hour ago
957E Deritend, Adderley Street earlier in Solihull
Quote from: Mike K on October 19, 2014, 01:08:26 PM
5517 on a 23E to Five Ways, passing through California just now.
22, 23, 24 and 29 were all running short to Five Ways today due to the BUPA half-marathon:
http://networkwestmidlands.com/ServiceAlterations/RoadworksandEvents/BupaHalfMarathon.aspx
Quote from: Stu on October 19, 2014, 07:07:00 PM
Quote from: Mike K on October 19, 2014, 01:08:26 PM
5517 on a 23E to Five Ways, passing through California just now.
22, 23, 24 and 29 were all running short to Five Ways today due to the BUPA half-marathon:
http://networkwestmidlands.com/ServiceAlterations/RoadworksandEvents/BupaHalfMarathon.aspx
Ah right, forgot about the Half Marathon today.
900e to airport from Cov
4932 seen in Sutton doing a 905E to Erdington
Quote from: OH25 on October 20, 2014, 07:40:52 PM
4932 seen in Sutton doing a 905E to Erdington
Timetabled
From y-day
900e to airport from Coventry daytime
Today
14e Marston Green
Lots of them down hagley road today
A few 59E's to Ashmore Park before running back to Wolverhampton private this afternoon due to the fallen tree by New Cross
Quote from: Nathan on October 21, 2014, 04:39:40 PM
A few 59E's to Ashmore Park before running back to Wolverhampton private this afternoon due to the fallen tree by New Cross
844 had to get to new cross hospital (heart and lung centre) then go back to bus station
tree had fallen on a car and smashed the bonnet no one was hurt luckily
97E to Shirestone Rd, 4171 just leaving town now
5E - Jockey Road (Tesco)
1E Chapelfields in Coventry
When the route was shortened recently the buses with electronic displays weren't reprogrammed so Tridents used every weekday always show the above destination!
836 just left WB on a 42E to Central Avenue
4821 is sat in Five Ways displaying 140E to Edgbaston Five Ways
957w is timetabled isn't it?
Yeah there's a 957W to the Jaguar Works
Quote from: vinh1000 on October 29, 2014, 08:05:07 PM
957w is timetabled isn't it?
Yeah, one each direction of an evening, although i'm not sure its on the bus stop timetables
Saw a 246E to Russells Hall Hospital at 12.20pm ish yesterday at stourbridge bus station
two 37E's to Olton Station about 10 mins apart
4863 was running as a 51E to Scott Arms earlier, about 13:40 heading through Newtown
Also, a 42xx B7 just (15:37) left city centre as a 67E Salford Circus... I've never seen this and I've been working along the Lichfield Rd 5 years now
EDIT: followed 10 mins later by 6025 running short to the Bagot Arms, guess something must be up around the Chester Rd
1871 just started a 67 journey from Salford Circus to the city, another one I've never seen before
4047 leaving West Bromwich as a 5E to New Oscott Jockey Road. Overhead a driver saying there are various problems on the route today, possibly a crash somewhere meaning various diversions. About 3 5's have just left West Brom together.
I did see a 222E to Brierley Hill from Merry Hill yesterday, not sure if it actually went to brierley or if it was showing the wrong destination.
Quote from: NXDom on November 08, 2014, 05:49:22 PM
I did see a 222E to Brierley Hill from Merry Hill yesterday, not sure if it actually went to brierley or if it was showing the wrong destination.
That's gotta be the shortest short possible!!
Quote from: Cheese on November 08, 2014, 12:00:48 PM
4047 leaving West Bromwich as a 5E to New Oscott Jockey Road. Overhead a driver saying there are various problems on the route today, possibly a crash somewhere meaning various diversions. About 3 5's have just left West Brom together.
RTC in Sutton apparently, man hit by car in the town centre
Quote from: Cheese on November 08, 2014, 12:00:48 PM
4047 leaving West Bromwich as a 5E to New Oscott Jockey Road. Overhead a driver saying there are various problems on the route today, possibly a crash somewhere meaning various diversions. About 3 5's have just left West Brom together.
RTC in Sutton apparently, man hit by car in the town centre
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Brassington Avenue was closed for a while this afternoon I heard over the radio, so must have been there
Quote from: the trainbasher on November 08, 2014, 05:59:22 PM
Quote from: NXDom on November 08, 2014, 05:49:22 PM
I did see a 222E to Brierley Hill from Merry Hill yesterday, not sure if it actually went to brierley or if it was showing the wrong destination.
That's gotta be the shortest short possible!!
Exactly what I thought! :)
4512 doing a 74E to Hockley from West Bromwich seen about 2:35
33E to Kingstanding Circle around 7 tonight
Also saw 4281 in City (on Lancaster Circus) with 67E Dartmouth Circus displayed
4277 on 94E to Arran Way this afternoon.
Quote from: Justin Tyme on November 13, 2014, 06:11:28 PM
4277 on 94E to Arran Way this afternoon.
I think, that there is a 94E timetabled to Arran Way every afternoon.
5513 just left Birmingham on the 22E to Harborne
31E to Robin Hood Island, arrived in Sparkbrook just before the full 31 to Solihull I got on about 5:45pm (which I only got as the app said the next 37 was in 11 minutes!)
Quote from: Stu on November 14, 2014, 07:04:06 PM
31E to Robin Hood Island, arrived in Sparkbrook just before the full 31 to Solihull I got on about 5:45pm (which I only got as the app said the next 37 was in 11 minutes!)
There was a broken down car on Moor Street, next to the 50 stop, blocking one lane this evening. This would have caused delays to services coming in from Digbeth & The Markets.
There was a 529E to Willenhall from Wolverhampton just before 5pm this afternoon.
Yesterday 957E - Yardley (Seen around 18:30)
Very strange one earlier this evening. 222E to Russell's Hall Estate at about 1750 from Dudley
Quote from: X94 on November 18, 2014, 07:52:02 PM
Very strange one earlier this evening. 222E to Russell's Hall Estate at about 1750 from Dudley
Saw a 222 branded Enviro running dead from Merry Hill along the X96 route about 5:15 so was probably the same bus trying to fit back into its running board, a friend of mine has recently started to complain about the 222's reliability the last week or so, are there any road works on the route at all? He waited over 45 minutes on Monday
Saw a 97E running to City to the Bull Ring Markets only this afternoon.
Quite a useful place to turn round really as it only misses out the Moor Street Queensway terminus stop, but can then start heading back out of City without having to travel all around the City Centre loop. It would still pick up plenty of passengers from Digbeth Cold Storage outwards.
101E to Grove Lane. Haven't seen many about. Unless there's three at a time, or if it's super late.
4974 74e to Hockley on soho road at 18.50, returned on 74e to wb.
Saw a 1E (AG) earlier to 'Priory Road, Bristol Road Junction', never seen that short before.
(saw in Acocks Green by LIDL)
99E to Worlds End Shops, Faraday Avenue this evening from Bham.
Is the 79E timetabled?
Quote from: Dutsey on November 24, 2014, 10:17:22 PM
Is the 79E timetabled?
That will be the Metro replacement 79E's to Bilston you saw
Three I noticed today.
This morning around 0815 a 529E from Walsall towards Willenhall and two from this evening (as a result of the chaos in Walsall), a 51E to Scott Arms & a 51E to Aston Six Ways, both from Walsall.
Just seen 4700 in Birmingham doing an 82E to Ladywood, Spring Hill
City in gridlock again today. 33E to Kingstanding Circle around midday, outside the Dog Track
4692 11E Earlsdon from Leamington
An unidentified enviro on 87e towards oldbury seen around 1815 last night
751 just left WB on a 44E to Great Bridge. Might be traffic related due to a RTA near Hill Top
As I boarded my 37 this evening, about 5:55pm in Sparkbrook, there was a 37E to Acocks Green just behind it.
4869 just left brum as a 997E to Streetly, never seen that before
The 4H I was on from Halesowen changed mid-route so that it terminated at West Bromwich, before running dead to Walsall due to late running.
Supervisors directed our 101 driver to change the blinds to 101E. I guess its not timetabled if the supervisors have to tell them, eh?
Quote from: clayderman on December 09, 2014, 05:07:07 PM
Supervisors directed our 101 driver to change the blinds to 101E. I guess its not timetabled if the supervisors have to tell them, eh?
No there are no timetabled 101Es, there is only 1 E working (Grove Lane). A good route timewise, I don't find myself running late too often on the 101, so something must have been up somewhere along the route
Quote from: John on December 09, 2014, 08:55:52 PM
Quote from: clayderman on December 09, 2014, 05:07:07 PM
Supervisors directed our 101 driver to change the blinds to 101E. I guess its not timetabled if the supervisors have to tell them, eh?
No there are no timetabled 101Es, there is only 1 E working (Grove Lane). A good route timewise, I don't find myself running late too often on the 101, so something must have been up somewhere along the route
Oh. I see. Well, I think there was a problem on the service today. The 7:25 didnt show up until around twenty minutes later. When I got to town, there mustve been a row of four ALXs & one Gemini all on the 101. Surprised none of them continued on the 101E then...
4828 currently loading on Colmore Row displaying 9E Coley Gate
4325 has just left Wolverhampton Bus Station as a 59E-Wednesfield
in Moseley Village about 4:15 there was 3 35's right behind each other
one was doing the full journey;
one was doing a 35E to King's Heath
and the other was doing a 35E to Pool Farm
4315 is doing a 47E to Cotteridge
just seen in Birmingham
Quote from: OH25 on December 19, 2014, 04:38:34 PM
4315 is doing a 47E to Cottered get
just seen in Birmingham
Cottered get? Is that the same as a rotten git?
There's a B7 ALX400 currently running a 67E inbound to Dartmouth Circus, too far behind me to ID
Quote from: Kevin on December 10, 2014, 06:04:38 PM
4828 currently loading on Colmore Row displaying 9E Coley Gate
Wondered where it turned in Colley Gate, would have thought it was easier to run to Lye Croos and turn round on the by pass!
Weekdays about 16:20 there is a WB 5E which comes through Pheasey to New Oscott. On the timetable displaying as a 5.
Five Ways 98E left Great Park at about 4, not seen that one before
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 19, 2014, 04:46:45 PM
Quote from: OH25 on December 19, 2014, 04:38:34 PM
4315 is doing a 47E to Cottered get
just seen in Birmingham
Cottered get? Is that the same as a rotten git?
According to my phone it might as well be :P
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 19, 2014, 09:43:48 PM
Quote from: Kevin on December 10, 2014, 06:04:38 PM
4828 currently loading on Colmore Row displaying 9E Coley Gate
Wondered where it turned in Colley Gate, would have thought it was easier to run to Lye Croos and turn round on the by pass!
Given what time it was, I'd guess it was just going straight from Colley Gate to Garage
seen a 9E going to Bearwood, Kings Head in Quinton about 5 mins ago
and now a 141E to Halesowen
Quote from: OH25 on December 22, 2014, 03:04:11 PM
seen a 9E going to Bearwood, Kings Head in Quinton about 5 mins ago
and now a 141E to Halesowen
Just seen also, 141 went to NIS, and there was another 9 departed to edgbaston at 15:10 following two other 9s
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 22, 2014, 03:35:26 PM
Quote from: OH25 on December 22, 2014, 03:04:11 PM
seen a 9E going to Bearwood, Kings Head in Quinton about 5 mins ago
and now a 141E to Halesowen
Just seen also, 141 went to NIS, and there was another 9 departed to edgbaston at 15:10 following two other 9s
there's another Trident (4352) on the 9 that's come from Halesowen and is only going as far as Bearwood too
808 was on a 99E to Quinton Stag at lunchtime today.
966E to The Fort
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on December 22, 2014, 06:59:14 PM
966E to The Fort
There was a RTC on The Fort Parkway this evening, that might have something to do with it. Our 38 was diverted via Kingsbury Road/Chester Road
4847 leaving town now 33E Kingstanding Circle
Sure he isn't half hour to a hour down matt?
Quote from: Matt on December 26, 2014, 09:43:34 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on December 26, 2014, 09:28:43 PM
Sure he isn't half hour to a hour down matt?
No dead on time 21:23 at Quinton Toby Carvery
Ran in service to Merry Hill arrived 4 min early (left Cradley on time) fleetnumber 4353
4230 was working an 80E-Edgbaston Five Ways. Seen at 15:00 @West Bromwich Bus Station
222E (827) to Russell's Hall Estate via Eve Hill @4:00 in Dudley Bus Station
Probably due to the horrendous gridlock in the city centre this afternoon caused by the closure of Park Street, but a 94E to Arran Way was seen at about 2.30.
There was a 243E to cradley heath behind me in Dudley at around 12:30 earlier
Saw a 51E to Aston 6 Ways at Scott Arms around 11am this morning. Also there were 2 X51's together and another 51 all heading towards Birmingham, I guess these were caused by the Park St Closure
811 just left WB on a 40E to Stone Cross
(4272) 80E to Grove Lane and on the side it said 80E Summerfield Park
seen about 10:45 by Portland Road
4876 doing a 935E to Perry Barr, seen at Kingstanding Road/Hawthorn Road at 09:30 towards City. UID 51 branded Enviro running dead behind it.
4903 'Lina' - 60E Cranes Park to Deritend, Adderley Street @ 08:55
https://www.flickr.com/photos/114083385@N05/16221780625/
4910 'Alanna' - 957E Birmingham to Solihull Touchwood Centre @ 08:47
https://www.flickr.com/photos/114083385@N05/16221780415/
845 departed Wolverhampton around 9 showing 27E Burton Road/ the Broadway.
Quote from: Gareth on January 05, 2015, 03:18:16 PM
Probably due to the horrendous gridlock in the city centre this afternoon caused by the closure of Park Street, but a 94E to Arran Way was seen at about 2.30.
Wonder how the 94E work now with the new route to turn round as they used to turn right from green lane down Windward way or is the island big enough for the buses to turn on Auckland Drive?? Just curious.
Quote from: OH25 on January 06, 2015, 10:51:59 AM
(4272) 80E to Grove Lane and on the side it said 80E Summerfield Park
seen about 10:45 by Portland Road
I am surprised that you saw an 80E to grove lane because the 80 doesn't go anywhere near Grove Lane!
Quote from: fleetline6477 on January 10, 2015, 07:21:23 PM
Quote from: OH25 on January 06, 2015, 10:51:59 AM
(4272) 80E to Grove Lane and on the side it said 80E Summerfield Park
seen about 10:45 by Portland Road
I am surprised that you saw an 80E to grove lane because the 80 doesn't go anywhere near Grove Lane!
That's exactly what I thought, the only thing that was correct is that it said 80E to Summerfield Park on the side
Quote from: monkeyjoe on January 10, 2015, 06:05:09 PM
Quote from: Gareth on January 05, 2015, 03:18:16 PM
Probably due to the horrendous gridlock in the city centre this afternoon caused by the closure of Park Street, but a 94E to Arran Way was seen at about 2.30.
Wonder how the 94E work now with the new route to turn round as they used to turn right from green lane down Windward way or is the island big enough for the buses to turn on Auckland Drive?? Just curious.
I would turn right onto Arran Way (the 966 route), left at the end and go all round Auckland Drive and restart service at Arran Way. Or continue along Auckland Drive to the A452 island and turn round there. It is only a mini roundabout so not big enough to turn the bus around
Quote from: John on January 10, 2015, 08:28:47 PM
Quote from: monkeyjoe on January 10, 2015, 06:05:09 PM
Quote from: Gareth on January 05, 2015, 03:18:16 PM
Probably due to the horrendous gridlock in the city centre this afternoon caused by the closure of Park Street, but a 94E to Arran Way was seen at about 2.30.
Wonder how the 94E work now with the new route to turn round as they used to turn right from green lane down Windward way or is the island big enough for the buses to turn on Auckland Drive?? Just curious.
I would turn right onto Arran Way (the 966 route), left at the end and go all round Auckland Drive and restart service at Arran Way. Or continue along Auckland Drive to the A452 island and turn round there. It is only a mini roundabout so not big enough to turn the bus around
Wasted mileage there, might as well terminate them at them at Bacons End. A bit of a waste just like the 72e's at castle Brom.
seen a 4E to Oldbury about 12:20 in West Bromwich
There was a 5E to Pheasey from Sutton around half 2 yesterday afternoon. 4053 was the bus
B7 on 4E to stone cross.
Just passed M5J2 1752hrs
1848 4H oldbury from Halesowen
Passed blackheath Spoons 1820
Quote from: John on January 15, 2015, 07:35:22 PM
Sutton Lines Branded Enviro400 on the 46 today
Think you meant to put this in the 'Route Branded Buses Off Route' thread ;)
Quote from: Nathan on January 15, 2015, 07:40:12 PM
Quote from: John on January 15, 2015, 07:35:22 PM
Sutton Lines Branded Enviro400 on the 46 today
Think you meant to put this in the 'Route Branded Buses Off Route' thread ;)
That's twice in 2 days I've done that! Thanks Nathan :-[
126E - Causeway Green
Just spotted near Cotteridge heading towards Bartley Green an 18E to Bangham Pit (Corwen Croft). That's a new one I have never seen before.
1772 on 69E to New Invention from Wolverhampton around 1610
Quote from: ARJ2901 on January 23, 2015, 08:03:02 PM
1772 on 69E to New Invention from Wolverhampton around 1610
What time was that bus due to leave Wolverhampton?
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on January 23, 2015, 10:08:16 PM
Quote from: ARJ2901 on January 23, 2015, 08:03:02 PM
1772 on 69E to New Invention from Wolverhampton around 1610
What time was that bus due to leave Wolverhampton?
Don't know, only saw it going down the Wednesfield Rd
Just seen a 75E to Carters Green in West Bromwich
7E Witton square from Perry Common at about 15:30
51E to Six Ways Aston from Walsall
Saw a 4E Oldbury from Walsall and a 4H West Bromwich from Halesowen
4821 just left Dudley Bus Station doing the 140E to Bearwood
6017 on CV4E to City Centre from Arena Park, seen arriving in Coventry Bus San at 1414
Quote from: ARJ2901 on January 31, 2015, 02:18:16 PM
6017 on CV4E to City Centre from Arena Park, seen arriving in Coventry Bus San at 1414
Should really go in NXC section
Quote from: NXDom on January 31, 2015, 02:43:16 PM
Quote from: ARJ2901 on January 31, 2015, 02:18:16 PM
6017 on CV4E to City Centre from Arena Park, seen arriving in Coventry Bus San at 1414
Should really go in NXC section
Not really. Its an untimetabled E working.
So unless a similar thread I created in the NXC section then I can't see the problem.
Quote from: Nathan on January 31, 2015, 02:58:53 PM
Quote from: NXDom on January 31, 2015, 02:43:16 PM
Quote from: ARJ2901 on January 31, 2015, 02:18:16 PM
6017 on CV4E to City Centre from Arena Park, seen arriving in Coventry Bus San at 1414
Should really go in NXC section
Not really. Its an untimetabled E working.
So unless a similar thread I created in the NXC section then I can't see the problem.
Oh I thought there was one in the NXC section.
Quote from: Matt on January 31, 2015, 12:08:07 PM
Quote from: OH25 on January 31, 2015, 11:53:45 AM
4821 just left Dudley Bus Station doing the 140E to Bearwood
140 was due out at 11:52. 11:22 running half hour late perhaps?
4821 was the 11:52 left spot on time and ran right through to Colmore Row
Quote from: Matt on January 31, 2015, 04:10:48 PM
4827 9E Five Ways
Was that whilst we were in Halesowen?
There is currently a 4M to Old Hill in West Bromwich bus station
99E to Quinton Stag
should be by Five Ways Station about now
4697 on a 65E to Short Heath
4546 just left Hill Street on a 126E to Causeway Green. I assume he will turn at birchley island to come back.
Quote from: the trainbasher on February 09, 2015, 08:54:51 AM
4546 just left Hill Street on a 126E to Causeway Green. I assume he will turn at birchley island to come back.
4607 did a 126E to Dudley from B'ham yesterday afternoon
Quote from: Nathan4775 on February 07, 2015, 03:42:52 PM
4697 on a 65E to Short Heath
Nathan 65 E are scheduled in evenings and Sundays
Quote from: x68 on February 09, 2015, 06:27:41 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on February 07, 2015, 03:42:52 PM
4697 on a 65E to Short Heath
Nathan 65 E are scheduled in evenings and Sundays
There are no timetabled Short Heath 65Es apart from the very first journey from City M-F
Plenty of untimetabled 28Es today (and more than likely every weekday), around 4.45pm on Perry Common Road, there was a 28E to the 'Fox & Goose', and another one to 'The Bagot'
Quote from: x68 on February 09, 2015, 06:27:41 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on February 07, 2015, 03:42:52 PM
4697 on a 65E to Short Heath
Nathan 65 E are scheduled in evenings and Sundays
They used to be. Evening and Sunday journeys were extended to Perry Common, and the evening frequency reduced to every 30 minutes a while back
There was an E400 on an 83E to Ladywood Spring Hill earlier this morning about 11
Saw a 70E to Sign Water Orton, Park Hill School. Must be a mistake both do not match and no idea why would be terminating at Park Hall, then again it said Water Orton which is another 5/7 mins away.
About 1520 on Coleshill Road.
5420 on a 1E to Wolverhampton from Tetanhall Wood, seen in Wton @0946
Timetabled
4823 on a City - Halesowen 9E at 1.50pm this afternoon
Quote from: John on February 18, 2015, 03:29:12 PM
4823 on a City - Halesowen 9E at 1.50pm this afternoon
9 seemed to be running in pairs again today, possible due to stop-go working in Colley Gate, i was stuck for 15 minutes outside MacDonalds around 12:45!
4198 246 e Brieley Hill
Just seen a 17 leave town (18:35) running short to The Radleys
33E to Kingstanding Circle seen at Wellhead Lane around 6.45pm.
Also saw 3 9s together this afternoon (I think it was 2.45pm) on Charles Street Queensway waiting at the lights under Snow Hill Station
4567 worked a 59E to Wednesfield from Wolverhampton this afternoon
Quote from: Nathan on February 27, 2015, 08:04:14 PM
4567 worked a 59E to Wednesfield from Wolverhampton this afternoon
It left Ashmore Park displaying 59E Ashmore Park at 2:30 ish but followed the full route around Griffiths Drive.
Quote from: trident4370 on February 27, 2015, 10:26:41 PM
Quote from: Nathan on February 27, 2015, 08:04:14 PM
4567 worked a 59E to Wednesfield from Wolverhampton this afternoon
It left Ashmore Park displaying 59E Ashmore Park at 2:30 ish but followed the full route around Griffiths Drive.
Either a simple error (Slip of the button) on the display or instructed to run private back to City from Ashmore Park.
I was referring to after 5pm. It was running pretty late when it was adjusted.
Quote from: Nathan on February 27, 2015, 10:30:20 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on February 27, 2015, 10:26:41 PM
Quote from: Nathan on February 27, 2015, 08:04:14 PM
4567 worked a 59E to Wednesfield from Wolverhampton this afternoon
It left Ashmore Park displaying 59E Ashmore Park at 2:30 ish but followed the full route around Griffiths Drive.
Either a simple error (Slip of the button) on the display or instructed to run private back to City from Ashmore Park.
I was referring to after 5pm. It was running pretty late when it was adjusted.
In that case I would assume it ran private as nobody was on it and 1671 was right behind it with pax on, mystery solved :P
4810 worked a 9E to Bearwood Kings Head at 10:43 this morning.
Forgot to mention, yesterday around 7:45 along Three Shires Oak road 4227 was on a 127E to Bearwood, Bear Hotel. Driver went Sandon Road, Rutland Road, Bearwood Road and turned back onto Three Shires Oak road to do the 128 to Oldbury. I'm guessing it was a really late 127 from Blackheath or Dudley
Unidentified Omnilink seen in Old Hill around 09:40 on a 4M (or should it be 4ME) to Oldbury.
4607 about to leave Wolverhampton Bus Station on a 529E to Willenhall.
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on March 11, 2015, 04:22:23 PM
4607 about to leave Wolverhampton Bus Station on a 529E to Willenhall.
Presumbly because Walsall & J10 is knackered at the moment!
I got a lift to Portabello Island then raced for a 326 back to Bloxwich!
(Dont mind paying 60p in an emergency!)
Just seen 4518 pass my house doing a 31E to Shaftmoor Lane (towards Birmingham direction).
I've seen today a 4M to Oldbury and 4M to Blackheath both coming from the Merry Hill end of the route
Quote from: OH25 on March 14, 2015, 04:59:50 PM
I've seen today a 4M to Oldbury and 4M to Blackheath both coming from the Merry Hill end of the route
Merry Hill completely gridlocked earlier.
I dropped 6111 off at Pensnett and got a lift from a bus going to Merry Hill with the intention of catching a 4M back to Walsall. My lift just got stuck in traffic not moving so I got off, walked up to Brierley Hill to get 246/313. While I was on the 313 got an email from the Merry Hill Inspector saying whole centre stopped
Quote from: Tony on March 14, 2015, 06:30:29 PM
Quote from: OH25 on March 14, 2015, 04:59:50 PM
I've seen today a 4M to Oldbury and 4M to Blackheath both coming from the Merry Hill end of the route
Merry Hill completely gridlocked earlier.
I dropped 6111 off at Pensnett and got a lift from a bus going to Merry Hill with the intention of catching a 4M back to Walsall. My lift just got stuck in traffic not moving so I got off, walked up to Brierley Hill to get 246/313. While I was on the 313 got an email from the Merry Hill Inspector saying whole centre stopped
@Tony The 313 doesn't go to Brierley Hill??
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on March 14, 2015, 06:45:00 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 14, 2015, 06:30:29 PM
Quote from: OH25 on March 14, 2015, 04:59:50 PM
I've seen today a 4M to Oldbury and 4M to Blackheath both coming from the Merry Hill end of the route
Merry Hill completely gridlocked earlier.
I dropped 6111 off at Pensnett and got a lift from a bus going to Merry Hill with the intention of catching a 4M back to Walsall. My lift just got stuck in traffic not moving so I got off, walked up to Brierley Hill to get 246/313. While I was on the 313 got an email from the Merry Hill Inspector saying whole centre stopped
@Tony The 313 doesn't go to Brierley Hill??
What I think
@Tony is referring to is getting a 246 then a 313
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 14, 2015, 06:48:28 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on March 14, 2015, 06:45:00 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 14, 2015, 06:30:29 PM
Quote from: OH25 on March 14, 2015, 04:59:50 PM
I've seen today a 4M to Oldbury and 4M to Blackheath both coming from the Merry Hill end of the route
Merry Hill completely gridlocked earlier.
I dropped 6111 off at Pensnett and got a lift from a bus going to Merry Hill with the intention of catching a 4M back to Walsall. My lift just got stuck in traffic not moving so I got off, walked up to Brierley Hill to get 246/313. While I was on the 313 got an email from the Merry Hill Inspector saying whole centre stopped
@Tony The 313 doesn't go to Brierley Hill??
What I think @Tony is referring to is getting a 246 then a 313
Never thought of that, head not screwed on properly today!
Quote from: Tony on March 14, 2015, 06:30:29 PM
Quote from: OH25 on March 14, 2015, 04:59:50 PM
I've seen today a 4M to Oldbury and 4M to Blackheath both coming from the Merry Hill end of the route
Merry Hill completely gridlocked earlier.
I dropped 6111 off at Pensnett and got a lift from a bus going to Merry Hill with the intention of catching a 4M back to Walsall. My lift just got stuck in traffic not moving so I got off, walked up to Brierley Hill to get 246/313. While I was on the 313 got an email from the Merry Hill Inspector saying whole centre stopped
My X96 was around 35 mins late when I took over it was still late when I came off at 20:50 supposed to have been off at 20:32
I've never noticed one before at this time of day, but there was a 94E to Ward End, Fox and Goose seen at Saltley just before midday.
I saw a 4e from Walsall to Delves around 6pm yesterday.
(Took me back to 1980 something with the 404e they used to run! Where do they turn round?)
Quote from: Westy on March 19, 2015, 07:26:05 PM
I saw a 4e from Walsall to Delves around 6pm yesterday.
(Took me back to 1980 something with the 404e they used to run! Where do they turn round?)
Wasn't there something like the 323/324 Walsall to Delves back then too? Never been to Delves, but always sounded a bit rude to me.
Quote from: Mike K on March 19, 2015, 08:14:46 PM
Wasn't there something like the 323/324 Walsall to Delves back then too? Never been to Delves, but always sounded a bit rude to me.
Yeah, there was. A sort of legacy from the handover from the Corporation days.
It ran as far as Delves Post Office.
It got absorbed into the 401 service at deregulation, which later became the 405!
2113 - 71E to Castle Bromwich from Solihull seen in Sheldon around 18:05-18:10
37E to Olton Station, from City around half 4
A couple of 37Es to Sparkbrook this afternoon, presumably because of congestion around the Markets it City (only read about it,didn't see how bad it was myself!)
Quote from: Nathan on February 27, 2015, 08:04:14 PM
4567 worked a 59E to Wednesfield from Wolverhampton this afternoon
Doesn't that mean technically it did a quarter of a journey? 59E Wednesfield
Why do E services get put into service ?! I know their journeys which finish earlier than their original terminus but why do they get into service ?!
5518 on a 23E to Five Ways seen on War Lane at 5.50pm.
Some sort of problem in Harborne as another Hybrid on the 22 came up Metchley Lane towards City about 10 mins earlier.
Quote from: BusFan on March 30, 2015, 04:29:14 PM
Why do E services get put into service ?! I know their journeys which finish earlier than their original terminus but why do they get into service ?!
In what meaning, timetabled or not?
Quote from: NXDom on March 30, 2015, 06:59:31 PM
In what meaning, timetabled or not?
Just in general really, I'm surmising timetabled E journeys are for when their is less demand at a certain time and route.
Quote from: BusFan on March 30, 2015, 07:05:04 PM
Just in general really, I'm surmising timetabled E journeys are for when their is less demand at a certain time and route.
Untimetabled is where a bus is running a considerable time behind where it should be so it gets a shortened route to catch back up to time, timetabled on the other hand (I think) is at times in the day there is demand for a certain service from location A - location B, so a shortened version of a route is used, i.e the 126E on an evening every other 126 is a E working to Dudley.
Quote from: Mike K on March 30, 2015, 06:11:39 PM
5518 on a 23E to Five Ways seen on War Lane at 5.50pm.
Some sort of problem in Harborne as another Hybrid on the 22 came up Metchley Lane towards City about 10 mins earlier.
Demolishing a row of old shops, 1 lane closed, traffic almost stationary with all the crossings and other traffic lights as well, nightmare
Just seen a pair of 74E Great Bridge services
101E - Grove Lane Handsworth - left Livery Street some time this afternoon (On an Enviro400)
11E - Ward End (Fox&Goose) from Acocks Green
65E to Short Heath in this afternoons peak. Lichfield Rd seemed to be delayed again, plenty of 65/7s running together
Plus I got on a late 98E to the Q.E. from Northfield
6113 was on a 9E to edgbaston would have passed through halesowen about 14:10
Branded 17 bus doing a 17E to Garretts Green
They're busy resurfacing the Hamstead Road up towards Newton, so 16s are all turning in Hamstead Village. Just seen 4801, 4819, 4812 and a diamond hybrid plus 816 on the 46.
Although as I type a Diamond centro just went beyond so maybe they haven't told all their drivers
Where are they turning in Hamstead? By the layby stop on Hamstead road by old walsall junction?
Quote from: BU07 LGO on April 12, 2015, 04:58:11 PM
Where are they turning in Hamstead? By the layby stop on Hamstead road by old walsall junction?
Yeah, the old turning circle normally only used these days by the 54
1854 doing 39E to Bilston. Departed Walsall at 11:52.
50E Highgate Belgrave Middleway
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/3z8M19
1436 serving 39E to Darlaston from Wolverhampton.
Just saw 4521 on Devonshire Road doing an 83E to Cape Hill
I was 20 minutes late taking over on the 94 so was told to do a 94E to Arran Way. There was also a 94E to Fox & Goose this afternoon too from Chemsley direction
801 doing a 99E to Quinton Stag, seen in Harborne, circa 1550 hours. Shortly followed by a full-outbound 99 to Halesowen
4910 - 957E Solihull Touchwood Centre - Seen at The Wheatsheaf at 11:10
120E to Birmingham town hall from Oldbury/Dudley, terminated at 13:12. Bus was 2100.
@Stuharris 6360 it used the 82/87 stop. Left NIS almost straight away.
Quote from: N94 on April 30, 2015, 02:07:32 PM
120E to Birmingham town hall from Oldbury/Dudley, terminated at 13:12. Bus was 2100.
With the Paradise Circus woks going on, can buses terminate at The Town Hall.
4715 doing an 80E to Smethwick High Street
just seen now in Five Ways
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 30, 2015, 02:09:32 PM
With the Paradise Circus woks going on, can buses terminate at The Town Hall.
Is that in the Chinese quarter? ;D
4258 on a 69E to Wednesfield approaching Wednesfield High St about 15 mins ago.
Noticed a 50E to Bull Ring markets yesterday just after midday in Kings Heath.
AG 4668 doing a 1E to Moseley Village, saw about 18:30 on Shaftmoor Lane.
Spotted a 98E at the hospital to Rednal at 7.30 this evening.
A 61E to Northfield was outbound in City Centre today around 8:30 - 9:00
37E - Bullring Markets - seen around 13:00/13:10
Just missed two 37Es to Acocks Green following each other as I got to Stratford Road in Sparkbrook this evening, about 5:30pm.
(There are no timetabled short workings out of city on the 37)
At 1345 at Priory Queensway today, WB 4958 on a 74E to Great Bridge.
WB 4055 did a 5E to Boldmere just after 2pm from West Brom
and 4965 passed through West Brom on a 74E to Dudley Port just before 1:20pm
4701 just left WB on an 80E to Five Ways
There is an E400 just leaving Bearwood doing an 82E to Grove Lane
1774 on a 69E to New Invention from Wolverhampton.
60E to Wagon Lane spotted in Swan about an hour ago.
NX 4820 started a short working on the 67 from Salford Circus to city this afternoon, 15:25 ish, was parked up on the other side of the Lichfield Rd just before and I assumed it had broken down but then it came round the island and I was the only person on-board
4911 currently working a 60E to Wagon Lane.
71E to Castle Bromwich, Heathland Avenue
left Solihull about 10 minutes ago
There was about 3 74E's to Dudley Port within 10 mins of each other and with normal full length 74's in between each of them
There is also an 83E on its way to Ladywood Spring Hill that just left Wet Bromwich about 15 mins ago
4232 on the 129E to Edgbaston Five Ways
seen about 5 minutes ago in Bearwood
OmniLink 37E to Acocks Green (Inbound)
Enviro 400 6E to Hall Green (Inbound)
That 6E journey could well have been scheduled, depending on the time you saw it. A handful of 6s on their last run of the day are scheduled to terminate at Hall Green before running empty back home to YW.
2102 doing a 120E to Edgbaston Five Ways just seen in Bearwood
6711 just left Birmingham on a 957E to Yardley swan centre
Was on 4047 yesterday on the 5E Sutton Coldfield-Pheasey.
46E to Hamstead Village just came into West Bromwich
4730 on a 35E to Pool Farm Sisefield Road just noted leaving Moor Street.
1436 serving 40E to Willenhall. Departed Wolverhampton Bus Station at 17:11.
An Omnilink (Didn't bother catching the fleet number) left Wolverhampton Bus Station about 16:50 as a '39E-Darlaston'.
753 had just pulled in Oldbury doing a 121E to Oldbury
1695 doing a 49E to Brandhall just left West Bromwich
Quote from: OH25 on June 10, 2015, 10:45:48 AM
1695 doing a 49E to Brandhall just left West Bromwich
Due to the complete & utter chaos in the West Bromwich area after the M5 has been closed for the morning, I would imagine there will be quite a few 'adjustments'
Quote from: Tony on June 10, 2015, 10:59:44 AM
Due to the complete & utter chaos in the West Bromwich area after the M5 has been closed for the morning, I would imagine there will be quite a few 'adjustments'
More delays now for WB due to an accident on Soho Rd.
Quote from: 979 on June 10, 2015, 03:52:23 PM
More delays now for WB due to an accident on Soho Rd.
Just been cleared
A 74E has pulled into West Bromwich heading to Great Bridge
Quote from: OH25 on June 11, 2015, 01:58:20 PM
A 74E has pulled into West Bromwich heading to Great Bridge
It most likely due to the over tired lorry at j1 been cleared now
How is service number decided if the E working to specific location has more than 1 service numbers serving it following the same route all way from origin terminus?
For example, 60E terminating at Swan on Sundays could have been 58E and if you push it, 59E too. I assume the 60 is chosen because it's less confusing on timetables as the 60 only runs on Sundays alternating terminating at either Swan or Cranes Park. But what happens in other cases? What happens if it's untimetabled?
Quote from: :D on June 11, 2015, 04:39:34 PM
How is service number decided if the E working to specific location has more than 1 service numbers serving it following the same route all way from origin terminus?
For example, 60E terminating at Swan on Sundays could have been 58E and if you push it, 59E too. I assume the 60 is chosen because it's less confusing on timetables as the 60 only runs on Sundays alternating terminating at either Swan or Cranes Park. But what happens in other cases? What happens if it's untimetabled?
Untimetabled E's are usually a bus already on the route, being radioed to run short.
In other cases, where there is a shortage of buses, I.e 10 11As bunched up in Perry Barr, the garage will send out a duplicate to commence from say Bearwood and have the original bus its replacing run as an 11e or vice versa.
In your scenario are you basically saying why isn't it a 75E to West Brom rather than a 74E? Probably because the bus was already on a 74.
Quote from: Jack6101 on June 11, 2015, 04:03:17 PM
It most likely due to the over tired lorry at j1 been cleared now
I know it was lying on its side, but over tired?
Quote from: Tony on June 11, 2015, 08:02:45 PM
I know it was lying on its side, but over tired?
Didn't notice I hate Auto correct.
4299 on 89E to Bloxwich left Wolverhampton Bus Station at around 16:40. Displaying 89 rather than 89E.
Last night I saw a 474* E400 on an 87E to Oldbury even about 21:30 this is normally a full route journey unless the driver put the wrong destination up of course.
Saw it while waiting on Colmore Row for the 140
Quote from: Squiz1971 on June 13, 2015, 09:37:53 AM
Last night I saw a 474* E400 on an 87E to Bearwood about 21:30 this is normally a full route journey unless the driver put the wrong destination up of course.
Saw it while waiting on Colmore Row for the 140
The 87 doesn't serve Bearwood though.
4562 on a 126E to Dudley from Birmingham
Quote from: Mike K on June 13, 2015, 09:46:48 AM
The 87 doesn't serve Bearwood though.
It was
Oldbury not
Bearwood as the 82 goes to Bearwood. When I had posted it I thought something was not quite right. Cheers
@Mike K. I have changed my original quote too
Gemini on a 37E to Bullring Markets left Acocks Green about ten minutes ago.
Quote from: Stu on June 13, 2015, 01:12:34 PM
Gemini on a 37E to Bullring Markets left Acocks Green about ten minutes ago.
And 1916 just went past Robin Hood island as a 6E to Sparkbrook "Highgate Road junction", something up in town or Solihull then?
The 129 has just left West Bromwich doing a 129E to Warley, The George
1900 on a 6E to Hall Green and 4720 on a 35E to Pool Farm in City early afternoon
31E to Acocks Green just arrived a few minutes ago (from city) as I was getting home
And a 31E to Shaftmoor Lane has just passed my house.
City was rammed today. There was a bit of a gap on the 37s, with a lot of them bunching up in Town.
I was one of the late runners lol, went into Solihull Town Centre and back out again a couple of times to try and bridge the gaps, under the instruction of the inspectors.
6712 has just left Moor Street on a 957E to Solihull Touchwood Centre. Was running somewhat late I think.
4709 coming from Dudley currently in Blackheath doing a 127E to Five Ways
4201 in Merry Hill displaying 141E to Town Hall about 11:40 today
Quote from: Niall on July 02, 2015, 03:01:04 PM
4201 in Merry Hill displaying 141E to Town Hall about 11:40 today
I don't see the point in running an E journey like that, surely it doesn't save that much time but does inconvenience passengers.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 02, 2015, 09:21:40 PM
I don't see the point in running an E journey like that, surely it doesn't save that much time but does inconvenience passengers.
If town is rammed with traffic it does. Allows the bus to get back on time or close on time.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 02, 2015, 09:21:40 PM
I don't see the point in running an E journey like that, surely it doesn't save that much time but does inconvenience passengers.
As John has put in another post it took him 40 minutes to get around the City Centre today, so it can save a massive amount, It can also mean a lot of passenger catching the return journey along Broad Street get a bus instead of a 40 minute wait, so very much helping the majority when the main flow is outbound in the afternoon
4292 on an 89E-New Cross Hospital from Walsall earlier.
1447 is doing 40E to Willenhall, departed Wolverhampton Bus Station at 13:10.
I sat on an 11C from Perry Barr which had Outer Circle displaying so imagine the passengers faces when the driver told us to get off at Fox and Goose and the display was reading 11E !
866 came into merry hill displaying 289E Oldbury earlier
about 30 mins ago 4746 was doing an 80E to Smethwick High Street coming from Birmingham
and just now there is a 49xx E400 doing an 80E to Grove Lane
Just seen 1802 terminating at Aston Cross on a short 8C working. Never seen that as a destination before
A few times this week I've noticed a small handful of 14E to Chelmsley Wood Interchange. I'm not sure if they are timetabled or not, but a I assume it's to turn some short form the business park to help with reliability.
Probably the Alum Rock parking causing those delays.
2211 working a 37E to Acocks Green Island from Birmingham at 1402
Quote from: monkeyjoe on July 16, 2015, 07:20:02 PM
Probably the Alum Rock parking causing those delays.
At the time of those sightings, it was during Ramadan. Alum Rock Road was a lot quieter during the daytime compared to normal.
2011 has just left market street on a 4E to Trysull road
Quote from: Dom on July 24, 2015, 10:03:22 AM
2011 has just left market street on a 4E to Trysull road
Wrong display? Trysull Rd is at the Spring Hill (Bradmore) end of the route. The Codsall/Pendeford bound 4's serve Market St
4543 working a 126E to Edgbaston Five Ways
Saw a 28E-New Invention in Wolverhampton earlier.
4955 had done a 75E to Carters Green from West Bromwich.
A rare short working seen today, one I haven't noticed in a few years. 4615 leaving city at 12.40 on a 14E to Saltley.
72E to Castle Bromwich from city at 12.40ish 2202 was running it
Quote from: Chris on July 28, 2015, 01:07:27 PM
72E to Castle Bromwich from city at 12.40ish 2202 was running it
Every other 72 terminates at Castle Brom from City
Quote from: Chris on July 28, 2015, 01:07:27 PM
72E to Castle Bromwich from city at 12.40ish 2202 was running it
I believe the 10 & 40 buses or the ones around these times are always 72E to Newport/Chester Road Caste Bromwich
Quote from: Squiz1971 on July 28, 2015, 02:03:29 PM
I believe the 10 & 40 buses or the ones around these times are always 72E to Newport/Chester Road Caste Bromwich
Yea it left around 12.40 i need to learn to double check before posting
Quote from: Chris on July 28, 2015, 02:21:41 PM
Yea it left around 12.40 i need to learn to double check before posting
I was in B & M and saw 2202 at the stop in front of 4368 couldn't get served quick enough to catch it so had to catch the next one which was a Omnilink :'(
6732 about to leave Bull St on a 997E to Perry Barr. The inspector was talking to the driver. Temporary 4 way lights at Newtown Baths holding everyone up
1868 28E to Erdington the roadwork in Castle Vale seem to be holding up the 28, 71 and 67
4225 not long left Colmore Row as an 83E to Smethwick Blue Gates.
I noted a 94E yesterday (Sunday) afternoon to Ward End Fox and Goose. Followed 1min behind by a regular 94.
Saw a Gemini today operating a 94E to Ward End The Fox And Goose
Also noted late afternoon a 55E to Buckland End. You don't see many of those about. Unlike the early/mid 90s when it seems all the peak time extras in the afternoon were 55E to Hurst Lane.
7030 66E to Star City
756 doing a WB 44E to Great Bridge from West Bromwich.
Few this evening!
I just missed a 37E to Acocks Green by a minute, then got home on a 37E to Olton Station. And passed in the opposite direction a 37E to 'Sparkbrook, Highgate Road Junction).
Also we were overtaken by another E200 which had passengers on board, but was showing 'Not In Service' on the displays.
4756 just did a 87E to Smethwick
(It terminated by the ASDA in Cape Hill)
That was just in front of my bus this evening city bound. The traffic around Livery Street, Colmore Row and Snow Hill was horrendous. Traffic backed up and barely moving. I'm not surprised it was turned short.
Quote from: Gareth on September 01, 2015, 06:55:41 PM
That was just in front of my bus this evening city bound. The traffic around Livery Street, Colmore Row and Snow Hill was horrendous. Traffic backed up and barely moving. I'm not surprised it was turned short.
This one was coming from Birmingham and finished in Smethwick
Quote from: OH25 on September 01, 2015, 08:47:07 PM
This one was coming from Birmingham and finished in Smethwick
Yes, it changed to the 87E when it reached Livery Street ready for the outbound service.
1703 - 5E Canley Station
While passing through Sparkbrook on my way home this evening, there were two 8Es to 'Saltley' following each other on Walford Road (towards Highgate Road).
Quote from: Stu on September 04, 2015, 06:55:03 PM
While passing through Sparkbrook on my way home this evening, there were two 8Es to 'Saltley' following each other on Walford Road (towards Highgate Road).
If that just after 6pm there was a 8E to Five Ways just in front of those two as well just pulled away from the stop on Highgate Road as the two Saltley buses were just pulling up to the lights.
4512 - 11E Selly Oak
Bristol Road
In the 11A direction
seen in Acocks green at 15:20
Quote from: 2206 on September 07, 2015, 04:12:29 PM
4512 - 11E Selly Oak
Bristol Road
In the 11A direction
seen in Acocks green at 15:20
You can make a thread of its own for untimetabled 11Es. Every school day without fail there's at least a couple.
Shouldn't a short on the 11A be an 11AE ??
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 07, 2015, 05:52:41 PM
Shouldn't a short on the 11A be an 11AE ??
No they display 11E.
Quote from: 2206 on September 07, 2015, 05:57:54 PM
No they display 11E.
Exactly, but it must mislead people, stranger asks what bus goes from Bearwood to Selly Oak and is told they need an 11A, get to stop and 11E shows up to Acocks Green, most likely they will let the bus go bu because they need an 11A
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 07, 2015, 06:04:29 PM
Exactly, but it must mislead people, stranger asks what bus goes from Bearwood to Selly Oak and is told they need an 11A, get to stop and 11E shows up to Acocks Green, most likely they will let the bus go bu because they need an 11A
Well there are the daily 11E journeys someone will just get on in Stechford thinking it is going to Erdington when the destination displays 11E Ward End then changes to 11E Short Journey
@Stuharris 6360 But the regulars are used to the 11E jouneys now from what I can see maybe I think someone who doesn't know the route very well would though.
There was a 246E Russells Hall Hospital from Stourbridge earlier this morning
Saw a 94e to "hurst lane" I know that's castle brom but what is that going to mean to the average joe bloggs.
4567 Doing a 126E to Bearwood Bus Station Rarlier in Dudley
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 07, 2015, 06:04:29 PM
Exactly, but it must mislead people, stranger asks what bus goes from Bearwood to Selly Oak and is told they need an 11A, get to stop and 11E shows up to Acocks Green, most likely they will let the bus go bu because they need an 11A
Being a circular route there shouldn't really be that much confusion. The side of the road the bus on should help as well as the destination
Quote from: Sh4318 on September 07, 2015, 10:17:01 PM
Being a circular route there shouldn't really be that much confusion. The side of the road the bus on should help as well as the destination
I've had a group of four catch the 11C from Kings Heath to Stechford. When I got to Bearwood they got up and asked how long to Stechford and were unhappy with my response of approx 75mins. I told them they caught the wrong bus, the 11A would have been quicker. So basically people are already struggling with the letters lol
Quote from: MW on September 07, 2015, 10:40:58 PM
I've had a group of four catch the 11C from Kings Heath to Stechford. When I got to Bearwood they got up and asked how long to Stechford and were unhappy with my response of approx 75mins. I told them they caught the wrong bus, the 11A would have been quicker. So basically people are already struggling with the letters lol
They must have asked someone the directions got the response "Get the 11!" without any knowledge of which direction to go in !
My only 1 annoyance with an E journey was I boarded an 11C which displayed "Outer Circle" on it (Midday) in Erdington, hoping to go to Stechford, when it got to Fox and Goose, driver told everyone to get off and when I checked the display said "11E Ward End". I understand E journeys although even people who just got on 2 stops before getting back off were annoyed the driver changed the signage more or less at the end of the journey
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on September 07, 2015, 10:52:21 PM
They must have asked someone the directions got the response "Get the 11!" without any knowledge of which direction to go in !
My only 1 annoyance with an E journey was I boarded an 11C which displayed "Outer Circle" on it (Midday) in Erdington, hoping to go to Stechford, when it got to Fox and Goose, driver told everyone to get off and when I checked the display said "11E Ward End". I understand E journeys although even people who just got on 2 stops before getting back off were annoyed the driver changed the signage more or less at the end of the journey
Likely possibility there would be he was about to get RTA'd (driven nearly all his hours) and was driving NIS to the relief point, or he was getting adjusted and another 11 was pretty much behind yours.
53E to Bearwood
(just seen at Kenrick Park)
2104 on a 276E. Came into Merry Hill about 1620
Trident in Brum @ 19:00 displaying X64 Selly Oak
69E to New Invention from Wolverhampton this afternoon followed by a full 69.
Also, a 25 left Wolverhampton as an E to Three Tuns Lane yesterday afternoon followed by a full 25.
WA41E New Invention left bus station at 10 05ish today.
PB 4916 in town 07:45 displaying 904E Chester Road the Yenton
4292 about to leave Wolverhampton Bus Station as an 89E to Bloxwich. Appears to be nearly half an hour late.
4901 just left Birmingham on a 45E alternating between Redditch Road and Kings Norton Village Green. Not one I have seen before.
Saw a 5E to 'Sarehole Mill' approx 6:50pm in Sparkbrook.
A 529 displayed "529E Willenhall Sikh Temple" from Wolverhampton.
What does E workings mean? curtailments?
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 08, 2015, 12:24:56 PM
What does E workings mean? curtailments?
In a old Wmpte timetable, it meant exceptions to normal service.
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 08, 2015, 12:24:56 PM
What does E workings mean? curtailments?
Birmingham City Transport had a short journey system where each turn round point was given a letter starting at A for the one closest to the City Center and continuing until the outermost short working turn round. I remember on the 50 that the 50J was Kings Heath and the 50K Alcester Lanes End. This was changed by WMPTE in the 70's to showing E which meant an Exception to the normal complete route as Westy said.
07:25 saw a 7E to Witton turn out onto Newtown High Street by the swimming baths
Slightly off topic, but i miss the old destination
"SERVICE EXTRA"
2021 displaying 3E to wolverhampton city centre at around 1.55
Forgot to mention a WA B7RLE (Forgot the fleetnumber) left Wolverhampton Bus Station about 10:50 on Wednesday as a '69E-Beechdale'
Quote from: Nathan on October 23, 2015, 02:08:48 PM
Forgot to mention a WA B7RLE (Forgot the fleetnumber) left Wolverhampton Bus Station about 10:50 on Wednesday as a '69E-Beechdale'
Might as well called it a 70a instead!
Quote from: Westy on October 23, 2015, 05:21:50 PM
Might as well called it a 70a instead!
It's not going to Cannock!
Quote from: Westy on October 23, 2015, 05:21:50 PM
Might as well called it a 70a instead!
Why? It left from Wolverhampton end....
Just passed 4927 on Hill Hook Road on a 902E to Mere Green
Quote from: Nathan on October 23, 2015, 07:07:43 PM
Why? It left from Wolverhampton end....
Sorry misread. Thought it left Walsall.
Quote from: John on November 03, 2015, 01:00:16 PM
Just passed 4927 on Hill Hook Road on a 902E to Mere Green
Passed it again on the next trip on a 904E to Sutton from Minworth
2249 working a 71E from Solihull to Chelmsley Wood seen at The Wheatsheaf at 11:16
Gemini leaving City on a 94E to Ward End around 7.40pm tonight
When I boarded 4242 this morning it was showing as 94E Saltley, by the time it had to terminate in Nechells due to a fault, it was showing 94E Ward End, Fox and Goose. Must have changed it after I had got on.
4760 on the Oldbury Road doing an 87E
4956 on a 5E to New Oscott this morning, followed by 2 others, a branded President and a Gemini.
50E to Moseley; left city around 16:45 - 17E to The Radleys a few moments before
An 89E to New Cross Hospital passed me about 15 minutes ago on Wednesfield High Street.
an 83E has just turned into Cape Hill going as far as Dudley Road, Summerfield Park
6717 (I think) - 957E Solihull Touchwood Centre seen arriving in Solihull just after 5pm, oops 17:00!
Quote from: JoNi on November 26, 2015, 07:39:50 PM
6717 (I think) - 957E Solihull Touchwood Centre seen arriving in Solihull just after 5pm, oops 17:00!
LMFAO
Quote from: Dom on November 26, 2015, 08:36:23 PM
LMFAO
https://youtu.be/KQ6zr6kCPj8
Anyway....
Forgot to mention, a 412* Trident left Wolverhampton about 17:30 yesterday on a short working to New Invention.
Around 2pm today there was a 48E between Northfield (or Bartley Green) & Londonderry (couldn't see the road name)
I imagine the destination would be Londonderry, Queens Head.
I got adjusted mid journey to run a 902E to Sutton from Hill Hook then run dead to City. I was 15 minutes late leaving Hill Hook so 25 minutes late getting there). By the time the next 905 came in for me to transfer passengers to, and a dead run to City, I was still 13 minutes late leaving, and there was 3 of us running together
4296 just left Wolverhampton Bus Station on a 69E to New Invention.
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on December 02, 2015, 04:48:33 PM
4296 just left Wolverhampton Bus Station on a 69E to New Invention.
And a 69E to Wednesfield from Walsall direction passed me by Wednesfield High School.
80E to Smethwick High Street just seen by Portland Road
6714 - 957E Solihull Touchwood Centre seen on Old Lode Lane @ 09:50
4105 displaying 69E Wednesfield. Seen it in Walsall Bus Station at 12:46.
244E to Halesowen arrived 15:50 from dudley? Any reason
@Tony
Loads in West Brom this afternoon
4E to West Brom from Walsall
5E Kingstanding
74Es to Hockley, Handsworth (Grove Lane), Great Bridge, Dudley Port
79E to Bilston
plus more that I can not remember
Saw 2 902E's heading from Hill Hook to Sutton Coldfield earlier.
80E to Cape Hill
coming from Birmingham
Not an E working
But 4136 is just leaving Merry Hill as a 255S
There is currently an 87E to Tividale in Oldbury
A few 9E to edgbaston this afternoon
A 99E to Harborne from Halesowen earlier this afternoon.
Quote from: Nathan on December 21, 2015, 10:58:43 PM
A 99E to Harborne from Halesowen earlier this afternoon.
I was behind a 99E going through Quinton earlier towards Halesowen, not sure if it terminated at the church or the Stag though.
A few 5E's running West Bromwich to kingstanding.
4618 or 4619 - 60E Yardley Swan from Cranes Park seen at 13:41 at The Wheatsheaf
Quote from: Niall on December 21, 2015, 11:45:54 PM
I was behind a 99E going through Quinton earlier towards Halesowen, not sure if it terminated at the church or the Stag though.
Another one this afternoon, terminated at the Stag, turned around and went back off to Brum.
9s were running in groups, as were the 140/141, as has been the case all week. I expect the other Birmingham corridors will be experiencing similar delays.
289E to oldbury has recently left merry hill.
4480 not long left City on a 907E to New Oscott.
Various 90*Es today. I was a 905E to Mere Green, the 902 behind me also done this (4849), and I also saw a 904E Minworth terminating in Sutton. I had to run dead to relief from Hill Hook and there was a 905E to Sutton from Roughley
5403 ran as a 59E-Wednesfield this afternoon.
Saw a 69E Wolvertrampton to New Invention on a B7RLE mid afternoon. Shame the alternative names don't go on the blinds. Maybe that will be my USP when I buy a bus lol.
An OmniCity ran a 907E to Perry Barr from Sutton around 2pm this afternoon
WA 1888 just pulled into Merry Hill displaying "4M Blackheath"
Kept catching up with it on the 289 up to Blackheath. As we were crawling up Powke Lane behind it our driver was saying "not surprised it's so slow, it's Walsall garage"
Quote from: Kevin on December 28, 2015, 01:55:04 PM
WA 1888 just pulled into Merry Hill displaying "4M Blackheath"
Kept catching up with it on the 289 up to Blackheath. As we were crawling up Powke Lane behind it our driver was saying "not surprised it's so slow, it's Walsall garage"
Is there normally 'rivalry' between garages?
4589 126 dudley from brum seen 5 mins ago by burnt tree
4702 on a 5E to New Oscott, seen just before New Oscott Tesco.
4237 on 94E to Castle Bromwich seen at Fox & Goose at 12:05ish
At about 16:45
PB 94 - 4496 - 94E Arran Way
I passed a 902E to Erdington this evening. Not seen one of then since before the route changes back in September (All now finish service either in City or at the outer)
Saw 10E to Compton this afternoon.
Branded Enviro400 - 82E Cape Hill
6110 - 9E Quinton Church
4897 - 45E Cotteridge
1947 - 48E Weoley Castle (from West Brom)
There was a lot of E workings on The Hagley road this morning due to a rtc at bearwood
4950 on an 87E to Tividale yesterday morning from Birmingham.
1768 left merry Hill about 10 mins ago as a 4ME to Oldbury.
Quote from: WN on January 23, 2016, 02:02:44 PM
1768 left merry Hill about 10 mins ago as a 4ME to Oldbury.
It would've displayed
Oldbury 4M
Quote from: RS on January 23, 2016, 10:12:41 PM
It would've displayed
Oldbury 4M
The 4M would mean it'd be going to Walsall
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on January 23, 2016, 10:28:16 PM
The 4M would mean it'd be going to Walsall
A 4m has gone to OH before and displayed
Old Hill 4M
Quote from: RS on January 23, 2016, 10:45:57 PM
A 4m has gone to OH before and displayed
Old Hill 4M
Judging by your comment, it would seem to be an isolated incident
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on January 23, 2016, 10:52:52 PM
Judging by your comment, it would seem to be an isolated incident
Surely a short on the 11 never displays 11AE, so why would a 4M short display 4ME?
Every time a 4M has done a short when i had seen them has be 4E,
@BU07 LGO is there a 4ME on walsall blinds? Like @Stuharris 6360 said 11AE doesn't exist always 11E regardless of which way it goes. X96 never seems to display X96E just X96 (for Stourbridge and Dudley shorts)
Quote from: Chris on January 24, 2016, 08:58:11 PM
Every time a 4M has done a short when i had seen them has be 4E, @BU07 LGO is there a 4ME on walsall blinds? Like @Stuharris 6360 said 11AE doesn't exist always 11E regardless of which way it goes. X96 never seems to display X96E just X96 (for Stourbridge and Dudley shorts)
Ive never seen it think it would be just 4e
Quote from: Chris on January 24, 2016, 08:58:11 PM
Every time a 4M has done a short when i had seen them has be 4E, @BU07 LGO is there a 4ME on walsall blinds? Like @Stuharris 6360 said 11AE doesn't exist always 11E regardless of which way it goes. X96 never seems to display X96E just X96 (for Stourbridge and Dudley shorts)
X96 has 6 displays
X96 Wollaston Farm
X96 Wrens Nest
X96 Merry Hill
X96 Dudley
X96 Stourbridge
X96E Merry Hill
Quote from: pndriver on January 24, 2016, 09:02:09 PM
X96 has 6 displays
X96 Wollaston Farm
X96 Wrens Nest
X96 Merry Hill
X96 Dudley
X96 Stourbridge
X96E Merry Hill
Why should it only be X96E to Merry Hill, surely X96E is equally as valid to Stourbridge or Dudley if they want to use the E?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 24, 2016, 09:12:08 PM
Why should it only be X96E to Merry Hill, surely X96E is equally as valid to Stourbridge or Dudley if they want to use the E?
I was attempting to say the same thing, it should just be an E journey,
I saw 4040 on an 11E to Erdington at Perry Barr around 11.30 this morning.
I only mention it as the display was set out like the 74E Handsworth, Island Road display. I've never seen it on the Outer Circle displays before
Quote from: John on January 26, 2016, 05:36:10 PM
I saw 4040 on an 11E to Erdington at Perry Barr around 11.30 this morning.
I only mention it as the display was set out like the 74E Handsworth, Island Road display. I've never seen it on the Outer Circle displays before
Yeah they've changed the displays on the LED buses. 11E to Ward End is the same, with Fox and Goose in the small writing.
Edit: the 45xx Geminis are still the same format as before
Quote from: MW on January 26, 2016, 05:53:02 PM
Yeah they've changed the displays on the LED buses. 11E to Ward End is the same, with Fox and Goose in the small writing.
Edit: the 45xx Geminis are still the same format as before
What's your current job?
Quote from: John on January 26, 2016, 05:36:10 PM
I saw 4040 on an 11E to Erdington at Perry Barr around 11.30 this morning.
I only mention it as the display was set out like the 74E Handsworth, Island Road display. I've never seen it on the Outer Circle displays before
All the Outer Circle short workings were changed this weekend to make them easier to spot
Quote from: Tony on January 26, 2016, 06:43:13 PM
All the Outer Circle short workings were changed this weekend to make them easier to spot
I bet you'll still get people running to catch them when they arrive at the last stop! :D
If the route number has a prefix letter and that route has a short working, it will not show as an E, only the short destination.
If the route number has a suffix letter, that said letter will be replaced by an E and will show the earlier final destination
Quote from: Tony on January 26, 2016, 06:43:13 PM
All the Outer Circle short workings were changed this weekend to make them easier to spot
How are those programmed in Helen as I can't seem to figure it out because there is no option on HELEN which is what NXWN use for anyone interested
Quote from: WN on January 27, 2016, 09:59:42 AM
How are those programmed in Helen as I can't seem to figure it out because there is no option on HELEN which is what NXWN use for anyone interested
@WN - Manually, I assume. That's how I would have done it? Not too complicated, but quite a faff!
Quote from: clayderman on January 28, 2016, 07:36:02 AM
@WN - Manually, I assume. That's how I would have done it? Not too complicated, but quite a faff!
It's certainly a faff because on HELEN you can only have adestination line on the left and a single number slot on the right. Very strange
4668 on 11E to Bearwood seen at Fox & Goose about 10:30ish 11A side
Quote from: Squiz1971 on January 28, 2016, 11:46:33 AM
4668 on 11E to Bearwood seen at Fox & Goose about 10:30ish 11A side
Many untimetabled E workings happen daily on the 11.
Quote from: 2206 on January 28, 2016, 04:20:42 PM
Many untimetabled E workings happen daily on the 11.
True as I have seen a lot myself I guess its for time keeping measures the E workings
I saw on the 11C side a branded Gem an E working to Selly Oak a few weeks ago
126E to Bearwood Kings Head
seen in Five Ways
UID E200MMC - 71E Minworth (ex Solihull) around 10:30/11am seen at Lode Lane/Seven Star Road Junction
There was a 37E to Solihull this morning, spotted in Sparkbrook. No doubt adjusted due to the traffic chaos this morning!
6709 900E Yardley turning back towards Airport.
After receiving instruction from Inspector at Moor Street standing close to stop while I waited for 900. He did the best he could with the tools available in noisy traffic!
4469 is parked on Richmond Road displaying 97E Stechford.
17E - Yew Tree - 1790
17E - Garretts Green - 1816
In City at 4.40pm both following a full length 17 journey
Gemini on the 11A doing a 11E to Dudley Road today
4828 did a 101E to Grove Lane, from City around 1630; two 101s in convoy, one of my friends claim they had been waiting since 4. Caught the one behind.
There was an E200 on a 99E to Harborne (from Halesowen) going up War Lane at around 18.00. Never seen that before.
While heading home earlier on the 37, we were overtaken by a 6E to Shirley.
4546 left Wolverhampton earlier as a 79E to Wednesbury.
Quote from: Stu on March 04, 2016, 07:27:40 PM
While heading home earlier on the 37, we were overtaken by a 6E to Shirley.
Solihull town centre was gridlocked, probably connected to that
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on March 04, 2016, 08:36:44 PM
Solihull town centre was gridlocked, probably connected to that
Lode Lane was closed due to a car/child collision
How badly was Sutton affected today, with the stabbing incident, as all I've heard so far is that Midland Classic couldn't operate into Sutton, having to terminate at Mere Green instead?
An 82E leaving Birmingham finishing in Cape Hill
At 16:05 today in Sutton
7019 (15C) - 15E Short Working - Erdington
There is an 8E to Hockley, Hunters Road (currently in Five Ways)
905E to Mere Green just arrived in Sutton. Probably due to issues on Gravelly Hill
A 902 and 904 have just arrived with it too
905E Roughley - Sutton around half 8 this morning. Never seen one that early before. More than likely due to the 2 diversions and the trains being down again
.... and there was also a 904E Sutton Coldfield heading north through Walmley village mid-morning, with a 904 right behind it. 4924 on the E, and 4934 from memory.
865 terminated in Halesowen at 14:30 on a 244E from Dudley, shortly followed by 4427 which left Halesowen about 14:37 on a 141E to Portland Road.
Why such big delays on 243/244 again?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 11, 2016, 04:36:38 PM
Why such big delays on 243/244 again?
Same reason every other service into Merry Hill is delayed
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 11, 2016, 04:36:38 PM
Why such big delays on 243/244 again?
all buses going via quarry bank stuck in road works only one land open
And there will be road closures after 1900 around that area
Didn't you know
Quote from: karl724223 on April 11, 2016, 05:41:10 PM
all buses going via quarry bank stuck in road works only one land open
And there will be road closures after 1900 around that area
Didn't you know
I usually expect 243/244 to be late nowadays. It's a surprise when it turns on time
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 11, 2016, 06:37:46 PM
I usually expect 243/244 to be late nowadays. It's a surprise when it turns on time
Is the Diamond 4 normally on time?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 11, 2016, 06:37:46 PM
I usually expect 243/244 to be late nowadays. It's a surprise when it turns on time
not being funny but there been road works around merry hill for quite a while now firstly the coppice lane merry hill junction was done now the quarry bank merry hill junction is being done
Quote from: karl724223 on April 11, 2016, 06:58:26 PM
not being funny but there been road works around merry hill for quite a while now firstly the coppice lane merry hill junction was done now the quarry bank merry hill junction is being done
He was complaining last week on the 6th as well, yet there were no delays that day, or any day last week
There's also road works on corngreaves road which have turned up on 243 route
Maybe we should be given the diamond bus magic wand
@Dom
Quote from: karl724223 on April 11, 2016, 07:17:46 PM
There's also road works on corngreaves road which have turned up on 243 route
Maybe we should be given the diamond bus magic wand@Dom
Its amazing isnt it. The NX 4H could be running late due to reasons out of the company's/drivers control (like why most services are late) but the diamond 4H never seems to be late.
Biased?
Quote from: Dom on April 11, 2016, 07:22:12 PM
Its amazing isnt it. The NX 4H could be running late due to reasons out of the company's/drivers control (like why most services are late) but the diamond 4H never seems to be late.
Biased?
I admit whenever nx 4H is late diamond 4H is also late. However reliability of 4H is much higher than 244. I think there is definitely time tabling issues on 243/244 with no layover as such
Oh and both diamond and nx 4H were late today due to bus crash in west brom!!!
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 11, 2016, 07:26:38 PM
I admit whenever nx 4H is late diamond 4H is also late. However reliability of 4H is much higher than 244. I think there is definitely time tabling issues on 243/244 with no layover as such
Oh and both diamond and nx 4H were late today due to bus crash in west brom!!!
Well that is probably because they come from completely different locations, so they cannot be compared they cover the same route for all of 8 mins.
Each 243 and 244 is given 6 minutes in Dudley with 1 minute in Hayley Green due to the location of the timing point (terminus). In Merry Hill 243's are given 3 mins dropback. But as it has already been mentioned no matter what dropback time they have it doesn't make a difference if there is traffic or road works ect. NX (contrary to popular belief) do not have a magic wand to avoid it all.
I was on 129 today I was due for relief at 1010 but due to curry bonk being down to one lane I hit the traffic just after cradley train station I got to merry hill at 1031 I was due back on a 222 at 1044 but had to have a 30 min break because of how long I was on second half which ment milage was lost on the 222 as I was sent to Dudley to start after my break so you see if a 243 is stuck it will have a knock on affect on the 244
Just of note a 002 was 45 min late coming in
Quote from: karl724223 on April 11, 2016, 07:51:24 PM
I was on 129 today I was due for relief at 1010 but due to curry bonk being down to one lane I hit the traffic just after cradley train station I got to merry hill at 1031 I was due back on a 222 at 1044 but had to have a 30 min break because of how long I was on second half which ment milage was lost on the 222 as I was sent to Dudley to start after my break so you see if a 243 is stuck it will have a knock on affect on the 244
Just of note a 002 was 45 min late coming in
DIAMOND LATE!? NEVER!
Quote from: Dom on April 11, 2016, 07:22:12 PM
Its amazing isnt it. The NX 4H could be running late due to reasons out of the company's/drivers control (like why most services are late) but the diamond 4H never seems to be late.
Biased?
Yesterday I saw quite a few NXWM 4E's to West Bromwich and Oldbury pass me. I suspect they were heavily delayed due to the collision.
Took a long way round to home this evening, and saw a 17E to Yardley Yew Tree.
Boarded 4814 earlier displaying "7E College Road Crossways" at 8:10 this morning on 7/07. Was waiting for it by Newtown Swimming Baths and 7/07 is usually 5-10 minutes late. It was 15 so they readjusted him.
There was an 80E to Smethwick High Street
Seen by Five Ways
6714 - 957E Solihull Touchwood Centre
Seen at Yardley Swan Island at 08:03
Think it was 4270 doing an 89E to Grove Lane
Seen on Smethwick High Street about 5:30pm
4968 is on a 74E to Great Bridge just left city centre
4489 was displaying 16E to Hockley, about to arrive at markets
Edit: currently on 4489 to Hockley.
- meanwhile, 4807 arrives into city as a 16E to Priory Queensway. What's happened to the 16s today?
Theres a fire at a derelict pub in Handsworth, on Soho Road - claims the BirminghamMail
Late running 4217 operated a 10E to Whoberley this morning.
89E to Dudley Road, Summerfield Park just seen by City Hospital
It's probably the wrong display up as there was people on there still.
and 4752 is doing an 87E to Burnt Tree Junction (currently in Oldbury)
4815 passed me at Newtown Swimming Baths at 15:50 displaying "7E Witton Square".
4700 just left West Bromwich displaying"80E Edgbaston Five Ways". Although it goes held up due to an argument on the bus which nearly escalated into a fight.
4827 - left city around 1645(?) - 101E to Grove Lane (which IIRC,
is the only short working programmed on the displays?)
Quote from: clayderman on May 09, 2016, 04:56:24 PM
4827 - left city around 1645(?) - 101E to Grove Lane (which IIRC,
is the only short working programmed on the displays?)
Yes that's right :)
1831 - 17E The Radleys.
4266 - 80E Smethwick High Street at Five Ways at around 13:40.
Platinum on 957E Solihull Touchwood Centre.
4946 just ran through Harborne going citybound with 24E New Street Station on the blinds. :o
5407 did a 126E to Five Ways earlier this evening.
4526 - 966E Chelmsley Wood Shopping Centre.
At Clock Garage at 18:05
845 is just leaving Wolverhampton Bus Station as a 28E to New Invention.
8E to Ladywood Ledsam Street
Just seen in Five Ways
4758 just pulled onto Colmore Row displaying 82E to Birmingham, Colmore Row.. Never seen that before now. ;)
Just on 1840 at the moment and we've just overtaken 1880 on a 4E to Oldbury.
6721 has just left Walsall on a 997E to Pheasey Church.
Presumably weather related again but there was a 98E to Rednal Hare & Hounds this morning peak.
I done a 67E to The Bagot, as I was 20 down earlier. Was back bang on time then
Quote from: Mike K on June 15, 2016, 11:10:43 AM
Presumably weather related again but there was a 98E to Rednal Hare & Hounds this morning peak.
6111 as a 9E to Edgbaston (Five Ways) at 13:43, assume this is weather related as it was followed a minute later by a normal 9 and there was another pulling on stand to load.
An NIS MMC left in front of 6111 and headed off in Halesowen direction, don't know whether that was going NIS to start at Halesowen or was off to garage.
4720, followed by 4726, has left Markets with "35E to Brandwood End" on the displays
...and not too long after, 4719 "NIS"
900E to Sheldon Wheatsheaf seen coming through Allesley Village at just before 4.00 followed by another 900 to Birmingham
Presumably because of the problems at Five Ways mentioned in another thread, 6113, 9E to Edgbaston (Five Ways) at 10:30 from Stourbridge.
Several 126Es today to bearwood, dudley and roseville from Wolverhampton due to the Hagley Road. 120 also still screwed.
Take it there may still be problems as there was a 9E to Edgbaston (Five Ways) at 13:25 from Stourbridge this afternoon.
A 246E to the hospital left Dudley a few minutes ago
4843 has just passed me on Kingstanding Road displaying "33E Kingstanding Circle".
8xx was on the 44E to Harvillis Hawthorn, Dial Lane earlier this afternoon
PB 4235 running a "65E Salford Circus" from city. Never seen that one used before
4306 is working a 6E to Aldridge, it's 40 mins late. Just left Walsall.
4190 is working an 6E to Mere Green. Just left Walsall.
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 11, 2016, 05:38:38 PM
4190 is working an 6E to Mere Green. Just left Walsall.
It was 10 minutes late leaving on its trip before, as it left with 4189 on the 7 at 3.40pm. I reckon Mill Street roadworks are holding them up
4879 was doing a 24E to Four Dwellings when I passed it around 10 minutes ago..
Travelled home this evening on 6712 which was doing a 957E to Sheldon Wheatsheaf.
Not sure if it's timetabled or not, but certainly one I haven't seen for a long time. 14E Lea Hall. Seen this afternoon at Saltley Gate.
I saw a 14E to Marston Green yesterday on Priory Queensway around 15:30 while waiting for the 72E to Castle Brom (which is timetabled)
4751 on a 87E to Tividale. Saw on Oldbury Road about 6:40
Unidentified 47xx on an 87E to Tividale about 14:00 near sand Pitts
In Sutton at about 16:30, 4920 - 905E Mere Green
4810 left Birmingham City Centre at 17:45 on a 904E to Sutton Coldfield.
17E - Green Lane
97E - Stechford
With the Walsall Road being a mess again today, I saw quite a few buses being adjusted. I also saw a few 997E's to ASDA Queslett and 51E's to Great Barr Scott Arms.
Are these extra buses on route or does this mean buses are missing from other parts of the route while these 'adjustments' are made?
Quote from: Westy on August 06, 2016, 10:55:47 PM
Are these extra buses on route or does this mean buses are missing from other parts of the route while these 'adjustments' are made?
It's usually the latter,
When they reach their "E" destination the bus will run empty to further up the route and take up service which usually circumnavigates the time lost to usually traffic.
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on August 06, 2016, 11:10:59 PM
It's usually the latter,
When they reach their "E" destination the bus will run empty to further up the route and take up service which usually circumnavigates the time lost to usually traffic.
Or they just turn around and take up the return journey from that point, hopefully getting them back on time, eg any -E journey to Camp Hill Island, Bull Ring Markets or Solihull Touchwood Centre.
Quote from: Westy on August 06, 2016, 10:55:47 PM
Are these extra buses on route or does this mean buses are missing from other parts of the route while these 'adjustments' are made?
The 37E is a good example to demonstrate how adjustments can be made without using extra vehicles, though I am sure in some cases extra vehicles do get sent out. For example, lets say traffic is really bad in and out of city centre (so could be any day really lol), and there are already three 37s crawling through the city centre and Digbeth, which means the outward journeys are getting more delayed, gaps are appearing, passengers are building up at stops and getting angry and frustrated. You could just keep sending more and more 37s into the city to get stuck too, or if you turn one or two at Camp Hill Island, you get an empty bus that can pick up a large number of passengers that have been waiting for ages. The alternative is to just leave things, in which case those buses are already full when they leave the city because of the huge numbers of waiting passengers, which makes passengers who have been waiting for ages further down the route even more angry when a rammed full bus sails past them.
Buses stuck at one end of the route, are essentially believed to be 'missing' anyway in the opinion of the passengers at the other end of the route! ;D
4741 displaying 82E Ladywood Spring Hill.
4754 doing an 87E to Tividale.
2205 was on a 72E to Saltley at 14:00
Quote from: 2206 on August 19, 2016, 03:56:18 PM
2205 was on a 72E to Saltley at 14:00
That was because it was running at least 20 mins late due to a new driver on the route 2205 should of been the 13:08 from Chelmsley Wood but turned up about 13:25 which meant that 2205 & 2244 which was he 13:28 were running in tandem more or less from the Wood until the driver took a detour via the 71 route @ Bradford/Chester Road junction towards town but re-joined back in front of 2244 at the School Road/The Green lights at Bradford Road
@2206
1870 doing a 28E to Ward End Fox and Goose caught it by Clock Garage at 12:30
2231 currently heading on a 72E to Saltley was nearly 15 mins late at the Chipperfield Road stop at the top should be 11:48 arrived 12:02
82E to Cape Hill. With another 82 right behind it.
6716 - 957E Old Lode Lane
6712 - 957E Old Lode Lane
18:30 Moor Street Queensway - 17E to Green Lane
Spotted a couple 82/87E to spring hill around 18:10, more than likely due to the amount of traffic between spring hill down sand Pitts towards city
4658 was on a 37E to Sparkbrook Highgate Road Junction at about 9:30 this morning.
Just saw 4748 on an 87E to Colmore Row. Should still be around Blue Gates
Quote from: Sh4318 on September 18, 2016, 03:11:12 PM
Just saw 4748 on an 87E to Colmore Row. Should still be around Blue Gates
Every 87 is an 87E today until bikefest finishes and the roads reopen
Quote from: Dom on September 18, 2016, 03:25:54 PM
Every 87 is an 87E today until bikefest finishes and the roads reopen
Ahh, that explains it. I thought something might be going on when I saw another 87E (4754)
There was a 529E from Walsall to Willenhall about 09.15 this morning.
529 VERY gregarios today!
6762 doing 529E to Willenhall from Walsall.
A crimson ticket branded E400 was doing a 87E to Tividale by Summerfield Park at about 15:25.
@2206 how do you get around the west midlands so fast... lightning posts
Quote from: Chris on September 21, 2016, 05:00:31 PM
@2206 how do you get around the west midlands so fast... lightning posts
looking at today's posts he has got around the Midlands
4247 turned from a full 89 to Colmore Row to a 89E to Queens Head. Saw it about 35 mins ago on Mallin St/West Cross
4150 got turned to do a 126E to Edgbaston Five Ways around 8:50 this morning.
Just passed 6759 on a 126E to Edgbaston Five Ways whilst on board 4757
There was a 63E that went to Rubery Flyover, Cock Hill Lane
Quote from: OH25 on September 26, 2016, 01:58:42 PM
There was a 63E that went to Rubery Flyover, Cock Hill Lane
Probably due to the Bristol Road issues.
276E to stourbridge
83E to Dudley Road,Summerfield Park earlier
4944 - 60E Asda Store
Seen at The Wheatsheaf around 14:40
6703 - 900E from Coventry
4097 did 6E Mere Green from Walsall.
4862 running as a 51E to Perry Barr, 18:45 at Alexander Stadium
99E to the stag
The traffic in the City Centre was at a standstill (coming in over Lancaster Circus anyway).
Some I saw were a 37E to Both Olton and Aockcs Green
47E to Hateley Heath in West Brom
Quote from: John on October 01, 2016, 02:39:09 PM
The traffic in the City Centre was at a standstill (coming in over Lancaster Circus anyway).
Some I saw were a 37E to Both Olton and Aockcs Green
47E to Hateley Heath in West Brom
I saw a number of 33E's to Kingstanding Circle and 935E's to Streetly Hardwick Arms.
Two (President) 48Es to Weoley Castle earlier (around 3), I have a feeling the congestion in Bearwood may have had something to do with it
Quote from: Sh4318 on October 01, 2016, 07:39:39 PM
Two (President) 48Es to Weoley Castle earlier (around 3), I have a feeling the congestion in Bearwood may have had something to do with it
I saw a 48E Trident going to the QE in Harborne
Quote from: Sh4318 on October 01, 2016, 07:39:39 PM
Two (President) 48Es to Weoley Castle earlier (around 3), I have a feeling the congestion in Bearwood may have had something to do with it
And harborne high street.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 01, 2016, 09:25:57 PM
And harborne high street.
No, I was in Harborne at 13:00 and 15:00 and Harborne High Street was not congested.
Quote from: MasterPlan on October 01, 2016, 09:22:39 PM
I saw a 48E Trident going to the QE in Harborne
WB don't have any Tridents and there were not any Tridents on the 48 today.
Quote from: 2206 on October 01, 2016, 09:42:10 PM
WB don't have an Tridents and there were not any Tridents on the 48 today.
Well obviously not since they don't have any, especially considering you've just stated that fact.
Quote from: MasterPlan on October 01, 2016, 09:22:39 PM
I saw a 48E Trident going to the QE in Harborne
@MasterPlan WB only have B7TL/ALX400 mate CV/BC/PN/WN/WA/YW have Trident 2/ALX400's
Maybe be meant Volvo B7tl Alexander 400 I thought they were tridents at first you can get confused
Quote from: BusFan94 on October 02, 2016, 02:44:54 PM
Maybe be meant Volvo B7tl Alexander 400 I thought they were tridents at first you can get confused
There are subtle differences between the 2 chassis if U know what to look for my friend
Quote from: Squiz1971 on October 02, 2016, 03:15:53 PM
There are subtle differences between the 2 chassis if U know what to look for my friend
I know but he might not so he probably thought it was a trident the Volvo has Vents in the back and on the side the trident has one on either side.
Quote from: BusFan94 on October 02, 2016, 03:19:32 PM
I know but he might not so he probably thought it was a trident the Volvo has Vents in the back and on the side the trident has one on either side.
No. Coventrys B7TL ALX400 don't have the vent at the back.
9E to Portland Road/Hagley Road this afternoon - about 16.00 in Bearwood
9E to hagley road left Stourbridge at 16:15
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 03, 2016, 05:32:10 PM
9E to hagley road left Stourbridge at 16:15
There were several 9Es and NIS 9s this afternoon due to a car breakdown in Colley Gate and due to the closure of Broad Street
11E to Yardley Yew Tree (11C). Which was a little inconvenient, as I was waiting at Yardley Yew Tree! (about 6:25pm) Luckily for me, there was an 11E to Acocks Green just behind, not so lucky for the fella who asked the driver if he was going to Kings Heath as I got off at Mansfield Road!
Quote from: Stu on October 04, 2016, 08:49:21 PM
11E to Yardley Yew Tree (11C). Which was a little inconvenient, as I was waiting at Yardley Yew Tree! (about 6:25pm) Luckily for me, there was an 11E to Acocks Green just behind, not so lucky for the fella who asked the driver if he was going to Kings Heath as I got off at Mansfield Road!
The Yew Tree one was probably running dead to either Kings Heath or Selly Oak which is funny lol.
Couple of 9E from Stourbridge to bearwood.
Do they carry on dead to brum or turn around somewhere near bearwood and return?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 05, 2016, 06:02:47 PM
Couple of 9E from Stourbridge to bearwood.
Do they carry on dead to brum or turn around somewhere near bearwood and return?
I saw one of the 330x 9E finishing at Hagley Road, Portland Road
Probably turned around by Five Ways or where the 8A/C used to go
Saw an 8E on the clockwise direction at Saltley Gate this afternoon for Jewellery Qtr. Haven't seen that particular one for a long time!
4240 on a 46E to... Perry Barr Bus Garage.
Must be the only E journey programmed that actually goes further than its orgiinal terminating point! 😂
Quote from: OH25 on October 05, 2016, 07:05:43 PM
I saw one of the 330x 9E finishing at Hagley Road, Portland Road
Probably turned around by Five Ways or where the 8A/C used to go
Some WN drivers turn at Lordswood Road. If you're at the 11A stop at Bearwood/Hagley Road, you can turn the bus around in one manoeuvre. I've done this plenty of times too, particularly when the 1 route was on diversion around College Road meaning I'd have to come back to depot via Highgate Road.
Anyway, seen 126 drivers who have done this, spoke to a few aswell, so maybe PE drivers do it too.
9E to Halesowen from Stourbridge about 9:30 in volley gate
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 07, 2016, 11:57:59 AM
9E to Halesowen from Stourbridge about 9:30 in volley gate
@Trident 4194 it is timetabled E working
Quote from: Chris on October 07, 2016, 01:12:12 PM
@Trident 4194 it is timetabled E working
Should have looked at timetable, apologies
4051 on a 89E to Oldbury.
UID 5 branded President unloaded all his passengers onto the one in front (4086) at Asda Queslett 13:25, then carried on NIS towards Sutton
4725 just left town on a 35E to Monyhull Hall Road Bells Lane.
803 was in Harborne at 15:00. On a 99E to Quinton The Stag.
4595 61E to Woodlands Hospital, left City just after 1700.
Also saw a 60E to Wagon Lane and a 17E to The Radleys.
John
6101 seen at 9am passing through Colley Gate on a 9E, Lye (Church).
Not sure if these are timetabled or not but anyway saw 2 71's on a 71E to Walmley one by Hall Road the other by Morrisons Chester Road 2220 & 2219 about 15:20/25
Didn't get round to posting:
6711 on Saturday ran a 957E to Touchwood Shopping Centre. https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.564987103673227.1073742261.369276339910972/606836236154980/?type=3&theater
48E to Bearwood.
89E to Dudley Road/Summerfield Park
31/10/2016:
4525 - 966E Chelmsley wood at around 19:00 from the NEC.
4349 on 246E to Russells Hall Hospital seen going through Brierley Hill at 13:15 today.
Don't know if any of these were timetabled or not, but I found it ironic anyway! I went to Kings Heath after work to pop into Homebase, went down to the 11 stop on Vicarage Road, let two 11Es to Acocks Green following each other pass by so I could get on the 11A right behind, about 6pm, with another 11E to Acocks Green not far behind.
Got all the way to Westley Road by the bus garage, only for all of us to get turfed off onto one of the 11Es in front, which then became an 11A.
Saw a 175x doing 302E Bloxwich.
Quote from: Stu on November 01, 2016, 07:42:14 PM
Don't know if any of these were timetabled or not, but I found it ironic anyway! I went to Kings Heath after work to pop into Homebase, went down to the 11 stop on Vicarage Road, let two 11Es to Acocks Green following each other pass by so I could get on the 11A right behind, about 6pm, with another 11E to Acocks Green not far behind.
Got all the way to Westley Road by the bus garage, only for all of us to get turfed off onto one of the 11Es in front, which then became an 11A.
That is quite regular on the 11 at that time. Most likely the others were being adjusted. One may have been timetabled to end at Acocks Green
4948 was on a 60E to Hay Mills Asda at 16:10 in the City Centre.
4185 was on Burney Lane on a 14E to Marston Green at about 15:50.
While waiting for the 15:50 333X I saw an untimtabled 37E going to Darlaston it was 15:45 when I saw it.
Caught 2231 on a 72E to Chelmsley Wood only, with a full route 72 behind (2230) just before 2 from town
1919 was working a 71E to Minworth earlier this afternoon coming from Solihull. Was behind it on Newport Road
WB 4275 running short to QE Hospital ~ 14:05 in Harborne , presumably half hour late as he was following an Omnilink to Northfield
6738 just left City on a 997E to Wellhead Lane.
4917 is currently doing an 80E to Cape Hill
99E - Quinton, The Stag
Spotted a 55E to Buckland End this morning. One I haven't seen for quite a while. I imagine there's been some delays on that route today. 4 went past within 5 minutes.
17E to The Radleys went past me at Bordesley Station about 6:35pm.
Quote from: Stu on November 23, 2016, 07:06:30 PM
17E to The Radleys went past me at Bordesley Station about 6:35pm.
@Stu I believe the radleys is closed due to roadworks of an evening so buses are terminating at the island and not serving Tile Cross.
4871 was on a 900E to the Bullring Markets at the Swan at 15:30.
Saw 4940 on a 63e to Pebble Mill this afternoon - a new one on me.
Two 87Es in the space of a couple minutes:
- 4921 - 87E to Birmingham, Colmore Row
- 4953 - 87E to Tividale
6729 on X51 just terminated at Scott Arms from Walsall
Bit of a pointless exercise considering the need for buses from city at this time of day
9s in chaos again today, this time road works in Colley Gate.
Saw several 9Es whilst i was out including a PORTLAND ROAD (Hagley Road) one, not sure how many people will know where Portland Road is. sure some drivers won't know where it is.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 01, 2016, 04:22:57 PM
9s in chaos again today, this time road works in Colley Gate.
Saw several 9Es whilst i was out including a PORTLAND ROAD (Hagley Road) one, not sure how many people will know where Portland Road is. sure some drivers won't know where it is.
why wouldn't they. As pensnett do the 129 that goes down there
Quote from: karl724223 on December 01, 2016, 04:29:59 PM
why wouldn't they. As pensnett do the 129 that goes down there
Do the 9 drivers also work the 129?
Quote from: Dom on December 01, 2016, 04:39:38 PM
No.
they could be asked to do it on rest day or daily sheet if work available so yes they could do it
Quote from: karl724223 on December 01, 2016, 04:29:59 PM
why wouldn't they. As pensnett do the 129 that goes down there
So therefore if the same drivers don't operate the 9 & 129 (or only occasionally), 9 drivers may well not know Portland Road.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 01, 2016, 04:43:41 PM
So therefore if the same drivers don't operate the 9 & 129 (or only occasionally), 9 drivers may well not know Portland Road.
yes they would as the nine has operated on diversion down there on more than one occasion when the Hagley road has been shut on more than one occasion the last time I can remember when the tree blew over and hit the wolves bus
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 01, 2016, 04:43:41 PM
So therefore if the same drivers don't operate the 9 & 129 (or only occasionally), 9 drivers may well not know Portland Road.
Portland Road is a big and well known junction on the Hagley Rd, and you also have the Portland hotel. It was the terminal point and destination shown on the number 7 bus for years. To be fair, if you are having to adjust a bus and turn it around there I'm not sure what else it could show on the front.
Quote from: Mike K on December 01, 2016, 07:24:29 PM
Portland Road is a big and well known junction on the Hagley Rd, and you also have the Portland hotel. It was the terminal point and destination shown on the number 7 bus for years. To be fair, if you are having to adjust a bus and turn it around there I'm not sure what else it could show on the front.
How does it turn around there??
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 01, 2016, 07:26:19 PM
How does it turn around there??
Side roads...
You can also spin round at the Kings Head/Lordswood Road stop just off Hagley Road. Seen plenty of 126 drivers do this.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 01, 2016, 07:26:19 PM
How does it turn around there??
Presumably if this was towards city, it would turn left up Monument Road, right onto Plough & Harrow Road, and then right back onto the Hagley Road to pick up service from the Ivy Bush stop.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 01, 2016, 07:26:19 PM
How does it turn around there??
you can't it's a no left turn you would have to yo to the lights and turn left at the ivy bush
Didn't you know that
Gonzo
Quote from: Stu on December 01, 2016, 07:29:51 PM
Presumably if this was towards city, it would turn left up Monument Road, right onto Plough & Harrow Road, and then right back onto the Hagley Road to pick up service from the Ivy Bush stop.
correct
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 01, 2016, 07:26:19 PM
How does it turn around there??
With a driver turning a steering wheel
Quote from: karl724223 on December 01, 2016, 07:31:38 PM
you can't it's a no left turn you would have to yo to the lights and turn left at the ivy bush
Didn't you know that
Gonzo
You really are representing nx well.
Kids today...when I was a lad we had respect for bus drivers as they have the power to deny passage!
Quote from: the trainbasher on December 01, 2016, 07:48:23 PM
Kids today...when I was a lad we had respect for bus drivers as they have the power to deny passage!
So calling gonzo is acceptable???
And I do respect drivers thankyou very much.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 01, 2016, 07:49:58 PM
So calling gonzo is acceptable???
And I do respect drivers thankyou very much.
you havnt complained about all the other muppet characters I've named
Quote from: karl724223 on December 01, 2016, 08:46:34 PM
you havnt complained about all the other muppet characters I've named
Because I'm not one to take offence easily.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 01, 2016, 08:54:19 PM
Because I'm not one to take offence easily.
lol I disagree with that.
you seem to always have your knickers in a twist about something or other
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 01, 2016, 08:54:19 PM
Because I'm not one to take offence easily.
Good, because NXWM need the fence later to secure the depot
4738 on a 87E to Burnt Tree Junction, saw about 10 minutes ago on the Oldbury Road
Got into city centre about 16:30 to see the 24 I was on change onto a 24E to Harborne.
Their was a 58E Deritend, Adderley Street earlier.
Just passed an X4 display "Short Journey to Falcon Lodge" and an X5 displaying "Short Journey to Sutton Coldfield". I've also just passed a X14 displaying "Short Journey to Bagot Arms".
99E spotted in Halesowen at 17.45 for QE Hospital.
I have wondered why timetabled E workings can't display via information? I've seen the 74Es start to display it now but I think others would benefit too. Like I've been on 29Es where people have asked does this go to x to the driver because all it says is Northfield Town Centre.
Quote from: MasterPlan on December 07, 2016, 07:14:21 AM
I have wondered why timetabled E workings can't display via information? I've seen the 74Es start to display it now but I think others would benefit too. Like I've been on 29Es where people have asked does this go to x to the driver because all it says is Northfield Town Centre.
The big solo terminal point is deliberate to make people notice them as a short working. Far better to have someone ask the driver if it goes to a place, than someone getting on thinking it is a full journey and getting turfed off half way
Quote from: Tony on December 07, 2016, 08:20:54 AM
The big solo terminal point is deliberate to make people notice them as a short working. Far better to have someone ask the driver if it goes to a place, than someone getting on thinking it is a full journey and getting turfed off half way
Most people do the latter anyway
Quote from: Tony on December 07, 2016, 08:20:54 AM
The big solo terminal point is deliberate to make people notice them as a short working. Far better to have someone ask the driver if it goes to a place, than someone getting on thinking it is a full journey and getting turfed off half way
Fair enough, although surely in the case if the 29 for example they wouldn't be hoping to go to Frankly if it says Northfield anyway.
It works well with the 11. The displays were recently changed to show the whole destination in a big "f*** off" font so the idiots have no excuses.
Quote from: MW on December 07, 2016, 03:41:49 PM
It works well with the 11. The displays were recently changed to show the whole destination in a big "f*** off" font so the idiots have no excuses.
But you do still get people trying to get on an 11E to Acocks Green when it arrives in Acocks Green. :D
Quote from: Stu on December 07, 2016, 06:31:27 PM
But you do still get people trying to get on an 11E to Acocks Green when it arrives in Acocks Green. :D
Yeah, just let them on, let them find a seat and get cosy and then turf them off. Lol.
Edit: That reminds me of something a friend of mine did. Someone was doing a "rounder" on the 1, back when it ran to Shirley (Tesco/Haslucks Green/VW Showroom). They didn't get off at the terminus. He was running NIS back to garage. The bus arrived in the garage and straight onto the fuel pumps when someone walked off from upstairs confused lol!!
Me personally, I've had people not get off when I'm doing the 11E to Bearwood. They'd say, take us to Harborne, it's only down the road. They wouldn't get off so I began driving NIS to garage. They ended up getting off at Cannon Hill Park lmfao!
2 126Es to Birchley Island around time of posting; should've just approached Hagley Road outbound
276E to Stourbridge
Around 1625 today: -
4624 on 14E to "Chelmsley Interchange"
4446 on 63E to Leach Green Lane.
There may well have been others later on as there was gridlock for a few minutes in Birmingham on the Carrs Lane > Dale End > Albert Street > Moor Street loop.
Quote from: Justin Tyme on December 15, 2016, 06:37:29 PM
Around 1625 today: -
4624 on 14E to "Chelmsley Interchange"
4446 on 63E to Leach Green Lane.
There may well have been others later on as there was gridlock for a few minutes in Birmingham on the Carrs Lane > Dale End > Albert Street > Moor Street loop.
Bristol and Pershore Road services were diverting up Bull Street, Corporation Street and the Priory Queensway. Suttons were using Carrs Lane.
I had to run an X5 to Mere Green, because of the bus turning up 20 minutes late, and getting stuck waiting to join Old Square just before 4pm, 35 minutes late then
Saw a 55E to Hurst Lane this afternoon, back in Washwood Heath garage days, every other afternoon peak seemed to be a 55E Packington Avenue / Hurst Lane short working. 😃
X96E to Merry Hill from Stourbridge
Quote from: Chris on December 16, 2016, 05:59:09 PM
X96E to Merry Hill from Stourbridge
Been several 276Es to Stourbridge today, saw one passing through Lye at 16:10, also 2 seen following each other towards Dudley a few minutes earlier.
6717 - 120E Langley
Quote from: JoNi on December 19, 2016, 04:19:29 PM
6717 - 120E Langley
More than likely the timetabled journey
Thanks, wondered if that journey was scheduled.
Unid Enviro - 140E Portland Road inbound going out of service at Strathallon Hotel.
Just passed 4851 at Aston Six Ways displaying "33E Lancaster Circus". Never seen that before!
4474 done a 97E Heartlands Hospital earlier.
Just seen 6822 displaying
Short journey to X14
Bagot Arms
4922 was on Harborne High St earlier this evening on a 48E to Hurst Road Community Centre.
63E - Longbridge
60E - Swan Centre
Quote from: MasterPlan on January 02, 2017, 02:30:56 PM
63E - Longbridge
60E - Swan Centre
Its Sunday Service. Every other 60 during the day a 60E to Yardley, Swan.
http://nxbus.co.uk/files/NX-West-Midlands/current_timetables/2015-Timetables/25th-October-2015-changes/15th-November-changes-/B060_15Nov15.pdf
Ever other 63 during the day is a 63E journey to Longbridge.
http://nxbus.co.uk/files/NX-West-Midlands/current_timetables/2016-Timetables/4th-December-2016/B063_04Dec16.pdf
Ah I see. Sorry!
6802 was on a X14, short journey to The Bagot Arms on Rectory Road at 15:30 today.
There was 2 126E Dudley around 4 ish seen nr Tesco Dudley
4927 -74E hockley around 12 in Dudley
On 205E to Russell's Hall only from Kingswinford
Just seen a 23E on Broad St, all I could make out was what looked like "South Woodgate" but there was something underneath too.
Not sure if it's timetabled or not as I'm not usually on Broad St at that point but the 29 was late this morning
Quote from: MasterPlan on January 27, 2017, 07:20:07 AM
Just seen a 23E on Broad St, all I could make out was what looked like "South Woodgate" but there was something underneath too.
Not sure if it's timetabled or not as I'm not usually on Broad St at that point but the 29 was late this morning
I think the bottom line may be Tibbatts Close. There's a turning circle at that junction on Somerfield Rd. Many moons ago that was the 23 terminus.
A couple of 126 outbound were only going to causeway green tonight
There was a 24E Four Dwellings and a 23E Harborne heading out of town one behind the other this evening peak too - were there traffic delays on the west side of the city earlier or on?
There's always bad traffic around Five Ways, Harborne Road lately. The other day inbound traffic was so bad it stretched back to Harborne High Street!
Quote from: MasterPlan on January 27, 2017, 09:46:27 PM
There's always bad traffic around Five Ways, Harborne Road lately. The other day inbound traffic was so bad it stretched back to Harborne High Street!
No it didn't. The queue down Harborne High Street starts at Westfield Road, same every morning between 8 & 9 . It is something I am working on with BCC to try and help. The road is free flowing between Westfield Road and Five Ways
Quote from: Tony on January 28, 2017, 09:59:19 AM
No it didn't. The queue down Harborne High Street starts at Westfield Road, same every morning between 8 & 9 . It is something I am working on with BCC to try and help. The road is free flowing between Westfield Road and Five Ways
A 22 was stuck behind the traffic lights by the Green Man and they were on green. This was during afternoon rush hour.
I ran a 77E to Foley Arms with all of the chaos in Sutton, where a 935 was waiting to take my passengers onto Walsall. Was well over 40 minutes late then.
Glad I had 761 because I could use Little Johnson's Lane to turn around (never be able to in a bigger bus!) and used Foley Road to Thornhill Road, round the top of the park into Sutton, and arrived 2 minutes early!
Quote from: MasterPlan on January 28, 2017, 12:31:30 PM
A 22 was stuck behind the traffic lights by the Green Man and they were on green. This was during afternoon rush hour.
Why does that mean the queue was to Five Ways?
If it was yesterday it was due to an RTC
Quote from: Tony on January 28, 2017, 03:57:21 PM
Why does that mean the queue was to Five Ways?
If it was yesterday it was due to an RTC
Well there was a lot of traffic along the rest of the Harborne Road.
4687 was on a 94E to Ward End, The Fox And Goose in the City Centre at about 09:30 today.
5E Lower Cape Hill - Stratford Road
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on February 02, 2017, 10:37:31 AM
5E Lower Cape Hill - Stratford Road
That makes no sense, which 5 route is this? :o
Quote from: Stu on February 02, 2017, 06:30:15 PM
That makes no sense, which 5 route is this? :o
AG5, no other 5 goes to the Stratford Road.
Quote from: 2206 on February 02, 2017, 06:33:08 PM
AG5, no other 5 goes to the Stratford Road.
But there's no such place as 'Lower Cape Hill' on the 5 route? :-\
Quote from: Stu on February 02, 2017, 06:35:05 PM
But there's no such place as 'Lower Cape Hill' on the 5 route? :-\
It actually stated Camp Hill. My apologies, I didnt see the message get "corrected" on my phone but I found the working fairly noteworthy.
16E to Church Lane
65E to Salford Circus on the Lichfield Road around 5pm on a 28 branded OmniLink
Quote from: John on February 06, 2017, 05:39:08 PM
65E to Salford Circus on the Lichfield Road around 5pm on a 28 branded OmniLink
The same just now. 4280 terminated there 18:17
89e to New Invention from Walsall around this time?
Dont remember seeing them on the timetable.
Quote from: Westy on February 07, 2017, 05:37:14 PM
89e to New Invention from Walsall around this time?
Dont remember seeing them on the timetable.
It's timetabled to do 89E to New Invention ex Walsall at 17:35.
4623 was on the Priory Queensway at 11:00 today on a 14E to Chelmsley Interchange.
98E - Queen Elizabeth Hospital
67E to The Bagot Arms. More than likely due to the traffic on the Tyburn Road due to an RTC on the expressway
29E - Five Ways right behind another 29
4185 currently parked up on Priory Queensway displaying "70E Saltley"
Going to assume that genuinely isn't going into service as such, would be a bit of a pointless journey
22E to Romsley Road and 23E to Harborne seen at 17.30 at five ways today.
16E - Hamstead Village
Quote from: MasterPlan on March 10, 2017, 12:10:25 PM
16E - Hamstead Village
Hardly surprising given the chaos in Hamstead Village at the moment
Saw 4917* on a 89E - Dudley Road, Summerfield Park. About 30 mins ago around Smethwick
My 72 (the 9:48 from top of Chipperfield Road) this morning was 15-20 mins late & just before we got to the old Washwood Heath Bus Garage the driver was told on the rado to become a 72E to Saltley only
Need to work on me maths lol !! As it should of been the 9:48 to get to my stop at 9:52 & also the MMC was 2202
Quote from: Squiz1971 on March 16, 2017, 07:54:44 PM
My 72 (the 9:38 from top of Chipperfield Road) this morning was 15-20 mins late & just before we got to the old Washwood Heath Bus Garage the driver was told on the rado to become a 72E to Saltley only
Never seen a 72E Saltley before!
Quote from: Gareth on March 16, 2017, 09:11:20 PM
Never seen a 72E Saltley before!
Seen a E200 MMC on a 72E to Saltley before, a couple of months ago.
Think i've seen a 72E to Nechells before as well.
6132 was operating a 50E to Alcester Road South, The Maypole at 16:30, in the City Centre on Bradford Street at 16:30.
Quote from: 2206 on March 30, 2017, 05:23:59 PM
6132 was operating a 50E to Alcester Road South, The Maypole at 16:30, in the City Centre on Bradford Street at 16:30.
Aren't there numerous short workings, usually to Alcester Lanes End or Maypole in the evening peak? There certainly used to be when I lived on the 50 route.
Quote from: Mike K on March 30, 2017, 06:45:36 PM
Aren't there numerous short workings, usually to Alcester Lanes End or Maypole in the evening peak? There certainly used to be when I lived on the 50 route.
No. Theres only one which leaves the City Centre at 16:23 on a 50E to Alcester Lanes End.
4426- 246E to Russel hall hospital around 3ish had to get off it got on 3303 behide followed by 4427
Quote from: 2206 on March 30, 2017, 06:58:36 PM
No. Theres only one which leaves the City Centre at 16:23 on a 50E to Alcester Lanes End.
I was thinking more of untimetabled journeys. The inspectors on Moor St used to adjust quite a few journeys to keep the service running reliably, particularly when there were 4 or 5 arrive in town together which wasn't uncommon.
Times have clearly changed.
Quote from: Mike K on March 30, 2017, 09:16:13 PM
I was thinking more of untimetabled journeys. The inspectors on Moor St used to adjust quite a few journeys to keep the service running reliably, particularly when there were 4 or 5 arrive in town together which wasn't uncommon.
Times have clearly changed.
This still happens as far as I'm aware. I've seen loads of 50Es over the years too
My all time favourite was back in WMPTE days when one 50 journey from town around 5pm was regularly operated by two Birmingham single deck Fleetlines. The leading one was a 50E to Alcester Lanes End and the one behind ran all the way to Maypole as a 50! This was in the days before the 50 was extended to Druids Heath, with the Druids Heath service being operated by the 48.
4907 was at Yardley Swan at 15:30 on a 60E to Wagon Lane.
Just seen a 98E in town to the QE not that long after one to Rubery. Don't know if it's timetabled or not
Quote from: MasterPlan on April 24, 2017, 07:45:11 AM
Just seen a 98E in town to the QE not that long after one to Rubery. Don't know if it's timetabled or not
yes it is they run a few 98e ones
A 9E to lye church at 9:10 this morning
ExSutton E400 empty; having alighted all its passengers from an 80E to Five Ways (still on the display)
63E - Rubery Flyover, Cock Hill Lane
74E parked up in Dudley, presuming it's not timetabled as it's displaying West Bromwich via Hockley?
Quote from: DJ98 on May 06, 2017, 05:17:34 PM
74E parked up in Dudley, presuming it's not timetabled as it's displaying West Bromwich via Hockley?
There is a 17:25 74E from Dudley, probably the driver displayed the wrong destination.
4230 has just passed me at Pheasey on a 5E to Kingstanding.
907E to Perry Barr this morning about 10:45, unidentified trident on 51E to Perry Barr spotted on Walsall road around 11:40ish
6106 on 9e
As expected with the disruptions in Birmingham, there's been a few E workings not normally seen.
A couple of 14E's to Chelmsley Interchange throughout the day, a 94E to Castle Bromwich and one I've personally never seen before, a 70E to Water Orton.
4849 displaying 33E Perry Barr One Stop.
Wolves based 6790 showing 126E,destination Edgbaston. Just left Wolverhampton.
I haven't studied the timetable to know if it's timetabled or not, but I saw an X12 Short Journey to Bromford leaving City Centre this afternoon.
There was a 79E by The Crescent only going to Carters Green about 6pm earlier
6770 displaying 529E Portobello.
According to the NX app There was a WN79 going to Darlaston from Wolverhampton yesterday
Quote from: BusFan94 on June 19, 2017, 09:39:58 AM
According to the NX app There was a WN79 going to Darlaston from Wolverhampton yesterday
Timetabled. The extra E workings that were added to cover the Metro works terminate at Darlaston on Sunday daytimes
Oh ok makes sense
I don't think the NX app displays untimetabled E workings anyway ?
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on June 19, 2017, 06:30:29 PM
I don't think the NX app displays untimetabled E workings anyway ?
It has with the 29E lately. Not with any others I know of though. The 74 still just shows 74.
Quote from: MasterPlan on June 19, 2017, 09:00:29 PM
It has with the 29E lately. Not with any others I know of though. The 74 still just shows 74.
Even with timetabled journeys, it doesn't necessarily show the "E" suffix after the route. On the 11, I've noticed, it just says 11 A/C then Acocks Green, Bearwood etc .....
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on June 19, 2017, 09:05:48 PM
Even with timetabled journeys, it doesn't necessarily show the "E" suffix after the route. On the 11, I've noticed, it just says 11 A/C then Acocks Green, Bearwood etc .....
Yeah I know that but it is showing '29E'
Those are all timetabled shorts though, does the real time info know if a bus has been adjusted, for instance a 63 to terminate at Longbridge island?
4501 was operating a 31E to Sparkbrook, Highgate Road in Acocks Green at about 15:45 going in the direction towards the City Centre.
4529 was operating a 31 to Olton Road, Paliton Road, in Acocks Green at about 15:45 going in the direction towards Solihull.
Quote from: 2206 on June 22, 2017, 05:19:58 PM
4501 was operating a 31E to Sparkbrook, Highgate Road in Acocks Green at about 15:45 going in the direction towards the City Centre.
4529 was operating a 31 to Olton Road, Paliton Road, in Acocks Green at about 15:45 going in the direction towards Solihull.
Apparently according to one of our delivery drivers, Stratford Road and Ladypool Road were seriously congested due to Eid shopping traffic.
Quote from: Stu on June 22, 2017, 06:38:59 PM
Apparently according to one of our delivery drivers, Stratford Road and Ladypool Road were seriously congested due to Eid shopping traffic.
The 1 and 31 were heavily delayed again today.
Saw 4294 operating a unusual 1E to Moesley at about 16:00 in Acocks Green today.
4434 is on a 129E from City to Bearwood Bear Hotel. Possibly to do with something going on on Broad St with buses diverted in both directions.
6122 on a 140E Blackheath not far behind.
Quote from: Mike K on June 24, 2017, 03:52:53 PM
4434 is on a 129E from City to Bearwood Bear Hotel. Possibly to do with something going on on Broad St with buses diverted in both directions.
6122 on a 140E Blackheath not far behind.
There was a Britain First March in Centenary Square on Broad Street.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/updates-britain-first-march-through-13233545
6778 was in the City Centre on Smallbrook Queensway by the Bullring at exactly 16:00 operating a 126E to Dudley.
Quote from: 2206 on June 24, 2017, 08:47:42 PM
There was a Britain First March in Centenary Square on Broad Street.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/updates-britain-first-march-through-13233545
6778 was in the City Centre on Smallbrook Queensway by the Bullring at exactly 16:00 operating a 126E to Dudley.
Was there any TV coverage of this today? Don't recall seeing it on the Beeb.
Think Walsall has a similar march next week apparantly.
6721 has just left Walsall on a 10E to Brownhills.
Seen a few 16Es to Hamstead Village in quick succession.
Due to Hamstead road being Resurfaced was the same Last week
6102 was on a 9E to Portland Road
At around 4pm on new road in great bridge 807 was doing a 42E to great bridge
4445 was in Birmingham City Centre at 12:28 operating a short journey to Coleshill Parkway Station on the X70.
Quote from: 2206 on July 01, 2017, 04:28:31 PM
4445 was in Birmingham City Centre at 11:28 operating a short journey to Coleshill Parkway Station on the X70.
The departure an hour later was also a short working to Parkway station.
Quote from: Gareth on July 01, 2017, 11:06:17 PM
The departure an hour later was also a short working to Parkway station.
Sorry, I meant 12:28. The 12:28 was 4445.
Around 6pm this evening saw a WB E400 (too far to ID but had a blue arse end so fairly sure it was a WB example) come from the Queslett Road, u-turn by the Scott Arms bus stops on the Walsall Road, and head back up the Queslett Road to park up in the first bus stop. Guessing it was a 5 that was turned short but never seen one do that there before
One from Yesterday 4314 on 79E to Carters Green with 4553 or 4547 on a Full 79 to West Bromwich running 1 minute behind Interesting 4314 only and one passenger on board until Darlo were all the Passengers boarded. Me I waited for the 79 to West Bromwich as I needed a bus to Brum
6106 was on a 9E to Portland Road about 10 minutes ago
4757 on a 87E to ladywood spring hill
An 82E to Grove Lane yesterday.
4909 on 47T to Turves Green, that's not a misprint it was 47T
4629 has just terminated outside of Coleshill by the huge roundabout on Coleshill Heath Road on an X70 from Birmingham.
My last trip on the 67 this morning was terminated at Salford Circus. Not one you see too often. Carried no one from City to there. Come off 6 minutes late, not bad considering
Saw a 28E to Broadway Belchers Lane it was a 28 Branded Omnilink cannot remember fleet number at around 18:20 at the Fox & Goose
3 from yesterday afternoon. A 51e from Walsall to six ways Aston. 6824 907e to new oscott Tescos, and a 42xx vehicle on a 5e to new oscott, not sure where it would turn round.
Quote from: 37351ml on July 17, 2017, 11:05:10 PM
3 from yesterday afternoon. A 51e from Walsall to six ways Aston. 6824 907e to new oscott Tescos, and a 42xx vehicle on a 5e to new oscott, not sure where it would turn round.
Would come back on itself at the roundabout just after Tesco, beggars bush
There was a 43E to Princes End around 3pm earlier leaving West Brom
838 at green lane having arrived on 46e from wb. 18.10
Quote from: John on July 17, 2017, 02:22:25 PM
My last trip on the 67 this morning was terminated at Salford Circus. Not one you see too often. Carried no one from City to there. Come off 6 minutes late, not bad considering
So you actually terminated there on purpose, rather than breaking down like before? ;)
Quote from: OH25 on July 21, 2017, 01:11:41 AM
There was a 43E to Princes End around 3pm earlier leaving West Brom
That's something I've never seen before, and I used to walk down part of the route to school and back every day as a kid. Guessing it went around Laybourne Park and then headed back to West Brom?
Quote from: DJ98 on August 02, 2017, 06:58:37 AM
So you actually terminated there on purpose, rather than breaking down like before? ;)
Yes I did that time :)
42?? On a 5E to New Oscott but on the side it said Beggars Bush Seen around 13:42 or 13:44PM
Quote from: BusFan94 on August 04, 2017, 09:06:20 PM
42?? On a 5E to New Oscott but on the side it said Beggars Bush Seen around 13:42 or 13:44PM
Beggars Bush and New Oscott is the same place. Beggars Bush is the name of the on the pub at the junction by the bus stop, hence why it said Beggars Bush.
@BusFan94
Quote from: Jack B on August 04, 2017, 10:35:59 PM
Beggars Bush and New Oscott is the same place. Beggars Bush is the name of the on the pub at the junction by the bus stop, hence why it said Beggars Bush. @BusFan94
I didn't know that I thought they were different places
There really ought to be consistancy on the displays, for this sort of thing.
Quote from: Westy on August 05, 2017, 12:14:51 PM
There really ought to be consistancy on the displays, for this sort of thing.
Exactly Westy for Example if I had never know where the Myvod was and a 11 or 13 camea long and on the front it says 11E Wednesbury or 13E Wednesbury and on the side said Myvod I would probably think it was going to a different place but really it is going to Wednesbury
Quote from: Westy on August 05, 2017, 12:14:51 PM
There really ought to be consistancy on the displays, for this sort of thing.
Does the display not alternate between New Oscott and Beggars Bush?
Like on the 11 how they'd alternate between Ward End and Fox and Goose.
If thats the case then the displays are consistant.
Quote from: 2206 on August 05, 2017, 02:37:46 PM
Does the display not alternate between New Oscott and Beggars Bush?
Like on the 11 how they'd alternate between Ward End and Fox and Goose.
If thats the case then the displays are consistant.
When I was at WB bus station yesterday I just saw the bus displaying 5E New Oscott it could have changed but I had been boarding 4554 on the 79 and it departed
Quote from: BusFan94 on August 05, 2017, 02:32:48 PM
Exactly Westy for Example if I had never know where the Myvod was and a 11 or 13 camea long and on the front it says 11E Wednesbury or 13E Wednesbury and on the side said Myvod I would probably think it was going to a different place but really it is going to Wednesbury
No it doesn't. It says via Myvod on the 13. The Myvod and Wednesbury are different places
Quote from: Tony on August 05, 2017, 04:14:30 PM
No it doesn't. It says via Myvod on the 13. The Myvod and Wednesbury are different places
I know Tony I was using it as as an example if it did display it But like yesterday I thought Beggars Bush was a different place to New Oscott
Quote from: Tony on August 05, 2017, 04:14:30 PM
No it doesn't. It says via Myvod on the 13. The Myvod and Wednesbury are different places
The Myvod is in Wednesbury, about 5 minutes from the town centre. Just the name of the pub and Road. Yes they maybe two separate places as they aren't next to eachother like New Oscott and Beggars Bush. But still in the same area.
It would be better if it just displayed 'via Myvod Road' saves all the confusion and hassle.
Quote from: Jack B on August 05, 2017, 04:22:46 PM
The Myvod is in Wednesbury, about 5 minutes from the town centre. Just the name of the pub and Road. Yes they maybe two separate places as they aren't next to eachother like New Oscott and Beggars Bush.
It would be better if it just displayed 'via Myvod Road' saves all the confusion and hassle.
I do know I live about 3/5 minutes away from it I'm just using is it as an example
Quote from: BusFan94 on August 05, 2017, 04:26:28 PM
I do know I live about 3/5 minutes away from it I'm just using is it as an example
I used to live on Myvod Road and know how the people pronounce things in the surrounding area.
People around there would never call The Myvod as a place. They would either say Kings Hill or Wednesbury.
Quote from: Jack B on August 05, 2017, 04:30:25 PM
I used to live on Myvod Road and know how the people pronounce things in the surrounding area.
People around there would never call The Myvod as a place. They would either say Kings Hill or Wednesbury.
You don't get it Yesterday I posted that I saw a 5E to New Oscott on the front on the Side it said Beggars Bush I thought they were two different area but they weren't lets say someone who doesn't know Wednesbury well and sees a 11 or 13 that says eg 11E Wednesbury and on the front it says 11E Myvod not that it does they would presume they are a different area I know they are not before anyone says that I think they are separate
Also isn't Kings Hill classed as Wednesbury anyway with a part in Darlaston as I believe Kings Hill Primary is the last address in the Walsall bough area along with the left side of Franchise Street with the rest being in Sandwell.
Quote from: BusFan94 on August 05, 2017, 04:50:45 PM
You don't get it Yesterday I posted that I saw a 5E to New Oscott on the front on the Side it said Beggars Bush I thought they were two different area but they weren't lets say someone who doesn't know Wednesbury well and sees a 11 or 13 that says eg 11E Wednesbury and on the front it says 11E Myvod not that it does they would presume they are a different area I know they are not before anyone says that I think they are separate
Also isn't Kings Hill classed as Wednesbury anyway with a part in Darlaston as I believe Kings Hill Primary is the last address in the Walsall bough area along with the left side of Franchise Street with the rest being in Sandwell.
Yes I know what your saying. No need to snap.
Kings Hill is the border. Old Park Road is both Sandwell and Walsall and in Kings Hill. Franchise Street is weird as the Street itself is Walsall but the bins are collected by Sandwell. The streets to the left of Franchise Street are Sandwell and the right is Walsall and all that is Kings Hill.
Woden Road North is Sandwell and classed as the Kings Hill Estate. Darlaston Road (Sandwell part) is Kings Hill.
Beebee Road (Sandwell) is Kings Hill.
So it seems Kings Hill is both Sandwell and Walsall.
The 11 doesnt go along Myvod Road, that's the 13.
The post code for that area is WS10.
Quote from: Jack B on August 05, 2017, 05:01:11 PM
Yes I know what your saying. No need to snap.
Kings Hill is the border. Old Park Road is both Sandwell and Walsall and in Kings Hill. Franchise Street is weird as the Street itself is Walsall but the bins are collected by Sandwell. The streets to the left of Franchise Street are Sandwell and the right is Walsall and all that is Kings Hill.
Woden Road North is Sandwell and classed as the Kings Hill Estate. Darlaston Road (Sandwell part) is Kings Hill.
Beebee Road (Sandwell) is Kings Hill.
So it seems Kings Hill is both Sandwell and Walsall.
The 11 doesnt go along Myvod Road, that's the 13.
The post code for that area is WS10.
I know it's WS10 I live in Kings Hill
Quote from: BusFan94 on August 05, 2017, 05:11:31 PM
I know it's WS10 I live in Kings Hill
Yes WS10 includes Myvod Road down to Wood Green Road. So it clears this up then, WS10 is both Sandwell and Walsall. End of convo.
Get your facts straight before posting.
4804 16e to church lane, handsworth wood leaving city 18.50.
Saw 2212 coming out of Marston Green Station showing a 72E to Tile Cross around 13:25ish not sure if this is timetabled or not
1862 41E to Lodge Farm.
6103-9E to Portland road
24E - New Street Station, seen in Harborne.
There was something scrolling underneath too, all I caught was Queensway.
4379? - 76E Selly Oak
Seen in Solihull Town Centre @ 08:21
4872 on a 60E to South Yardley, about 6pm, not surprising considering the heavy congestion.
Spotted 60E to Hay Mills around 7PM yesterday.
If I remember correctly 4591 was doing a 1E to The Broadway but didn't seem like it was in service because it was by Coseley
61xx - 9E Edgbaston zoomed past at Bearwood while I was looking at bear!
Quote from: :D on September 06, 2017, 02:32:01 PM
Spotted 60E to Hay Mills around 7PM yesterday.
There was another one today leaving town about quarter past 4.
WA 4868 currently running as "51E - Aston Six Ways" 18:02 One Stop southbound
Spotted a 997E leaving City yesterday heading to Aldridge...First time I've seen that...
42*2 on a 120A (from Birmingham) to Lion Farm last night around 9:45
Just seen a 97E (Stechford - Inbound)).
1926 currently running as a 52E to Perry Barr from city. Never seen that in this direction
Quote from: Kevin on September 20, 2017, 06:01:55 PM
1926 currently running as a 52E to Perry Barr from city. Never seen that in this direction
Seen that quite abit when I lived on the route.
1907 did a 52E from City to Perry Barr last Saturday due to the chaos with Aston Uni.
An unusual short working this morning (not displaying 'E') was an X61 showing Tessal Lane (alternating with Raven Hayes Road) on the top line of display, and City Boundary on the bottom line.
Saw one of those quite a while back in Northfield
https://www.flickr.com/photos/128470593@N05/35431568855/in/album-72157668984566824/
6778 just drove past 2134 completing a 24E to "Punch Bowl / Court Oak Road" - funnily enough, the Punch Bowl has been knocked down in lieu of a Residential Home. Perhaps it should be updated to show "Court Oak Road / West Boulevard"
4873 - 23E Five Ways
Spotted from an overcrowded 29E on Harborne High Street inbound behind another 23.
5514 was on a 24E earlier, alternately showing 'Quinton Ridgeacre Road' then 'Tesco Store'.
In the good old days that would have said Quinton Garage.
With all the roadworks and that horrifically long winded route they now take out of town, Harborne services are in complete turmoil at the moment.
Quote from: Mike K on September 29, 2017, 05:46:12 PM
5514 was on a 24E earlier, alternately showing 'Quinton Ridgeacre Road' then 'Tesco Store'.
In the good old days that would have said Quinton Garage.
With all the roadworks and that horrifically long winded route they now take out of town, Harborne services are in complete turmoil at the moment.
How long are the roadworks for?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 29, 2017, 05:50:31 PM
How long are the roadworks for?
I don't know, sorry. The huge holes dug in the road on Harborne Rd close to Chad Rd, and Broad St near the Novotel look like short term things but there was huge disruption and temporary lights near Paradise Circus this week - no idea how long that will last.
2219 was in Acocks Green going towards Sparkbrook on the 31 at about 16:30 today, operating a 31E to Sparkbrook, Highgate Road.
Spotted an X10 in Halesowen about 5.30pm to Quinton Church
Lots of 35E to Monyhull Hall Road and 50E to Alcester Lanes End this afternoon. Any ideas why?
Quote from: Abluhwleh on September 30, 2017, 04:31:34 PM
Lots of 35E to Monyhull Hall Road and 50E to Alcester Lanes End this afternoon. Any ideas why?
Crash on Alcester Road after Moseley Village.
Just seen 6719 pull into Birmingham City Centre with "937E Kingstanding Short Journey" on the blinds...First time I've seen that used from City!
3302 did a 9E to Portland Road around noon
6752 doing 937E to Perry Barr Wellhead Lane from Brownhills West.
Quote from: P419 EJW on October 04, 2017, 05:30:20 PM
6752 doing 937E to Perry Barr Wellhead Lane from Brownhills West.
That anything to do with the Brownhills West fire?
Quote from: Westy on October 04, 2017, 07:15:12 PM
That anything to do with the Brownhills West fire?
I presume so. The roadworks in Brownhills didn't help either... 10/10A were also late.
X64 - Woodcock Hill
24E - Punch Bowl, Court Oak Road
31E - Acocks Green, Shirley Road
5E - Marshall Lake Island
4907 - 47E to Lee Bank / Ring Road - 16:36 opposite New Street Station
4696 doing 67E Dartmouth Circus.
There was a 126E earlier about 7pm leaving Wolverhampton only going to Broad Street, Sheepcote Street
22E - California, Barnes Hill just going past the Vine in Harborne.
X61 spotted in selly oak to "Priory Road" at 6.55pm
6105 on 9E to edgbaston earlier
4250 has just left Pheasey on a 5E to New Oscott. Another WB B7TL running dead through Pheasey just before
6794 left Colmore Row around 15:30 on a 126E to Dudley
4513 passed Ward End, The Fox and Goose at 15:55 on a 11E to Yardley, Swan. You don't see 11E's to Yardley Swan very often.
Looks like something is causing delays on the 11? As it was at the back in a convey of 3 on a Sunday, with 4662 and another 45XX, 4509 I think.
3304-9E to bearwood- must be pretty late
3301: 9E Halesowen
3302: 9E Quinton Church
6798: 126E Dudley
Not in succession, but the order I saw them in.
Quote from: CL on November 07, 2017, 09:43:17 AM
3301: 9E Halesowen
3302: 9E Quinton Church
6798: 126E Dudley
Not in succession, but the order I saw them in.
The Halesowen is more than likely I mr of the two at are timetabled. Also 6798 can't of been on the 126, it's a perry Barr bus.
Quote from: Dom on November 07, 2017, 09:45:37 AM
The Halesowen is more than likely I mr of the two at are timetabled. Also 6798 can't of been on the 126, it's a perry Barr bus.
Ah, alrighty. "6798" could have been 6789. :P Gotta excuse typing on my phone in the cold!
49** 87E- ladywood
4742 did an 87E to Smethwick Blue Gates around 4-5 this afternoon
Around 10:45 on Broad Street - 4956 was displaying 128E to Oldbury
Didn't know where to put this.
611* on a 9E to lye church left halesowen about 15:20
About 5pm yesterday
There was a 120A doing an 'E' journey to Portland Road/Hagley Road
14E to Duddeston Vauxhall Road at Birmingham Priory Queensway at 16 40 on Tuesday
3305-9E- lye cross
At around 3:30 pm yestaday an 82/7 branded bus was doing an 87E to tividale road
1833 did a 17E to Yardley Yew Tree at 14:05 ish.
Saw an inbound 97E Heartlands Hospital.
Saw a Northfield bound 48E to the QE.
17E - Garretts Green
6745 left Walsall about 20 minutes ago on a 935E to Perry Barr.
1806 did a '17E' to Garrets Green earlier.
Saw 4859 at Perry Barr doing a '51E' to Aston Six Ways, inbound. (A full 4867 was following behind).
An Omnilink was operating at 55E to Ward End earlier - At the Fox and Goose at about 15:10.
9E spotted at 3.50 in Quinton today heading to "Lye Church"
758 was spotted near Oldbury around 4pm on a 121E (from Dudley) to Oldbury
4694 - 33E to Kingstanding Circle. Seen on Carrs Lane around 12:45
2144 at Selly Oak 10:20 doing a X64 to Weoley Castle
One of a string of 4 buses on 98/X64 in the space of 5 mins
4737 working 51E to Aston Six Ways, 07:24 Scott Arms
Saw 423* terminate at Kingstanding on a 5E yesterday at around 18:45 (not sure if it was the late running dodger which is supposed to depart Kingstanding at 18:27), followed by another 42** on a 5E to New Oscott.
Don't think it was in service but in solihull this evening i saw an e200 mmc displaying "58e Woodcock Lane Nth". I suppose this could happen if the A45 or Clay Lane was blocked. Or is the destination just a remnant of AG's long departed 44 route?
6813 terminated short at Falcon Lodge at around 17:05 on a short X4 from Birmingham due to being 30 minutes late.
BC 2124 left Priory Queensway 08:10 as a 98E to Five Ways
Not really sure why it ran at all, just behind the usual short to the QE and the next bus on full route was already there waiting
Also not sure where it would finish it's route, because the outbound route doesn't stop near Five Ways
Quote from: Kevin on December 14, 2017, 08:11:56 AM
BC 2124 left Priory Queensway 08:10 as a 98E to Five Ways
Not really sure why it ran at all, just behind the usual short to the QE and the next bus on full route was already there waiting
Also not sure where it would finish it's route, because the outbound route doesn't stop near Five Ways
Wheeleys Road, St James Road round the corner from Five Ways Station.
Quote from: 2206 on December 14, 2017, 05:41:57 PM
Wheeleys Road, St James Road round the corner from Five Ways Station.
Aware it stops there, but that's hardly a "Five Ways" stop
Quote from: Kevin on December 14, 2017, 05:43:54 PM
Aware it stops there, but that's hardly a "Five Ways" stop
Quote from: Kevin on December 14, 2017, 08:11:56 AM
Also not sure where it would finish it's route, because the outbound route doesn't stop near Five Ways
I know, but you said you didn't know where it finishes. The station round the corner is called Five Ways Staiton and i'm sure its included in the NWM map of Five Ways as well, though I know its not really Five Ways.
I saw a 28E to College Road, Crossways at The Fox and Goose this morning at about 07:50.
First time i've seen that.
Quote from: 2206 on December 15, 2017, 07:01:28 PM
I saw a 28E to College Road, Crossways at The Fox and Goose this morning at about 07:50.
First time i've seen that.
Probably going as far as Hawthorn Road as no buses were using Dyas Road this morning. That will be the nearest E destination and the most suitable to use as they don't have Hawthorn Road as an E destination
29s - Harborne
60E - Hay Mills; Heybarnes Circus, ASDA
Passed me about 6:20pm at Bordesley Station, never seen that short journey before.
2 33Es terminating at Kingstanding in 20 mins
4803 running a 16E to Hockley Circus, 18:39 Moor Street Queensway
Quote from: Kevin on December 22, 2017, 06:39:28 PM
4803 running a 16E to Hockley Circus, 18:39 Moor Street Queensway
Quick question about this short working - in regards to it coming from the city centre direction - where does it actually terminate?
I know when I've seen 74E's terminate at Hockley (having come from West Bromwich/Dudley end) they are able to go round the Circus - to start new service outside the New Bingley Hall - as the bus stop is placed before the roundabout. Where would buses coming from City Centre terminate? Outside the former Hockley Garage (New Bingley Hall) or the stop before, near the Royal Mail Collection Office?
Suppose it terminates outside New Bingley Hall, does it just run NIS after that?
Quote from: CL on December 23, 2017, 12:11:37 AM
Quick question about this short working - in regards to it coming from the city centre direction - where does it actually terminate?
I know when I've seen 74E's terminate at Hockley (having come from West Bromwich/Dudley end) they are able to go round the Circus - to start new service outside the New Bingley Hall - as the bus stop is placed before the roundabout. Where would buses coming from City Centre terminate? Outside the former Hockley Garage (New Bingley Hall) or the stop before, near the Royal Mail Collection Office?
Suppose it terminates outside New Bingley Hall, does it just run NIS after that?
If it terminated at the New Bingley Hall, it could take the first left just after the stop onto South Road, left onto The Creacent and left at the end of the road on to Whitmore Street coming up behind New Bingley Hall and back to Hockley Circus. Whether it does in reality, I don't know. You can get onto the 101 route into City as that goes near the back of the New Bingley Hall I think.
Quote from: MW on December 23, 2017, 05:51:02 AM
If it terminated at the New Bingley Hall, it could take the first left just after the stop onto South Road, left onto The Creacent and left at the end of the road on to Whitmore Street coming up behind New Bingley Hall and back to Hockley Circus. Whether it does in reality, I don't know. You can get onto the 101 route into City as that goes near the back of the New Bingley Hall I think.
Or maybe it ran to hamsted not In service and picked up service from there??
Every chance it just went back to garage from there tbh
16E - Church Lane, Handsworth Wood
29E - Weoley Castle
EDIT: They're all being amended anyway. Though surely Shenley Academy, Shenley Lane would've been better as Weoley Castle tends to imply Weoley Castle Square.
X10 halesowen arrived 10:30 from Birmingham following a normal x10.
Unplanned roadworks have closed Beeches Road this morning. Meaning all 28s are terminating at Thornbridge Avenue unable to reach Scott Arms. 52 and 52A using Booths Farm Road out of City
Not sure if all of these Es on the 22, 23 and 29 are because of weather or congestion.
87E - Ladywood Spring Hill. Saw a few moments ago on the Oldbury Road (towards Birmingham)
35E - Bell Lane.
29E - Harborne
29E - California Barnes Hill, at Weoley Castle towards City. Never seen that before.
126E to Birchley Island this afternoon; seen about 4-ish in City Centre
80E to Egbaston, Five Ways. Spotted on Oldbury Road, approx. 35-40 mins ago
48E - Weoley Castle
saw a 23E to Harborne & a 24E to Quinton Tesco less than an hour ago
6120 doing a 140E to Blackheath
A lot of 37E's to Sparkbrook ALDI from Solihull today.
Quote from: Jack on March 10, 2018, 03:55:25 PM
A lot of 37E's to Sparkbrook ALDI from Solihull today.
I've only seen 1 'E Working' on the 37 from city today.
Quote from: Dom on March 10, 2018, 05:10:47 PM
I've only seen 1 'E Working' on the 37 from city today.
I saw a good few from Solihull. 2209, 2214, 2220 and 4506. All of which I saw from Solihull not the city.
Quote from: Jack on March 10, 2018, 05:17:41 PM
I saw a good few from Solihull. 2209, 2214, 2220 and 4506. All of which I saw from Solihull not the city.
Yes I know you saw them in Solihull as I read your original post. I am saying I saw one E Working from City.
Saw 7029 on a 96E to Erdington on Newport/Chester Road about 12:45ish
Quote from: Squiz1971 on March 11, 2018, 01:21:56 PM
Saw 7029 on a 96E to Erdington on Newport/Chester Road about 12:45ish
No, its not untimetabled.
Every 96 is a 96E to Erdington on Sundays.
Quote from: 2206 on March 11, 2018, 01:33:22 PM
No, its not untimetabled.
Every 96 is a 96E to Erdington on Sundays.
Ok wasn't aware of that cheers
@2206
Quote from: Dom on March 11, 2018, 05:32:56 PM
Timetable?!
Don't use the 96 or any bus atm as I have a car & yes I would look at a timetable
@Dom if I used the bus thanks!!!!
Saw 6816 I think on a 94E to Saltley inbound by Aston Church Road lights with 2 Gem's on full routes with it about 17:50. Maybe timetabled but have never seen that E working one before
Got turned around at Spitfire Island on my last 67 this morning. Running over 20 minutes late. Had to do the same on Monday on the same duty too
@Tony Is there a way we could get an 67E Spitfire Island diaplay put onto the Hannovers. It is only recently we have been started to be turned round there. We have to use the Bagot Arms 67E blind, the same in the bad weather last year when we were not going onto the Vale
23E - Harborne at California Way.
129E - Blackheath, just left Merry Hill.
Every 6 and 37 are E's to Solihull town centre.
Quote from: Jack on April 03, 2018, 03:07:34 PM
Every 6 and 37 are E's to Solihull town centre.
Because only the X2, 73 and X12 are serving Solihull Station till April 21st.
http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/solihull-rail-station-bus-changes-1st-21st-april-2018
Quote from: Jack on April 03, 2018, 03:07:34 PM
Every 6 and 37 are E's to Solihull town centre.
Been like it since Sunday and will be until the 21st due to the station being resurfaced.
Wish people would check to see if diversions before posting crap!
Quote from: Dom on April 03, 2018, 03:27:06 PM
Been like it since Sunday and will be until the 21st due to the station being resurfaced.
Wish people would check to see if diversions before posting crap!
Never actually knew I was expected to skim down the NX Website just to look for diversions so it could please you... What crap? You're posting crap by making a daft response which wasn't even needed!
Quote from: Jack on April 03, 2018, 03:31:15 PM
Never actually knew I was expected to skim down the NX Website just to look for diversions so it could please you... What crap? You're posting crap by making a daft response which wasn't even needed!
Not a case of checking for everything but surely if you're seeing several of them you must question it thinking somethings wrong! A bit of common sense never hurts anyone!
Quote from: Dom on April 03, 2018, 03:56:22 PM
Not a case of checking for everything but surely if you're seeing several of them you must question it thinking somethings wrong! A bit of common sense never hurts anyone!
Is your job stressful by any chance?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 03, 2018, 04:11:46 PM
Is your job stressful by any chance?
Well having worked at Solihull for the last 3 days you'd think common sense would play a part!
Quote from: Dom on April 03, 2018, 05:50:45 PM
Well having worked at Solihull for the last 3 days you'd think common sense would play a part!
Blue high viz?
Quote from: MW on April 03, 2018, 06:28:02 PM
Blue high viz?
Yup, more than likely either asked you to move forward or checked how long until you're due out today
6113- 9E edgbaston even in school holidays the 9 is broke
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 05, 2018, 03:55:02 PM
6113- 9E edgbaston even in school holidays the 9 is broke
Stop posting rubbish. The 9 is not broken today, There is currently no bus later than 7 minutes late. When you saw that mid afternoon the driver had a problem (not traffic or Mechanical) in Birmingham on his previous trip
There was an 11E from Walsall to Princes End earlier today, can't say I've ever seen that before. I'm presuming it terminated at the stop on the high street next to the Black Olive?
82E Bearwood to Ladywood Spring Hill this morning around 0900
6853 on a 24E to Court Oak Road (presumably that means the old Punch Bowl island) this evening, one of 3 24s in a row.
4753 doing an 87E to Hill Road in Tividale.
4755 following behind on a full 87.
No more 37Es or 6Es now
@Jack
At the Fox and Goose 15 minutes ago:
- 1805 (I think) was terminating on a 55E to the Fox and Goose having come from Chelmsley Wood.
- 1810 was at the Fox And Goose operating a 55E to Buckland End.
Quote from: 2206 on April 23, 2018, 05:58:14 PM
At the Fox and Goose 15 minutes ago:
- 1805 (I think) was terminating on a 55E to the Fox and Goose having come from Chelmsley Wood.
- 1810 was at the Fox And Goose operating a 55E to Buckland End.
In the opposite direction around 18:10 1813 was on a 55E to Saltley by the job centre on Washwood Heath Road
9E- lye church
Saw an 84e to Cotteridge at about 6:30 this evening just past Kings Norton school. Is this a normal timetabled journey or a very late bus as I thought only one bus ran this route?
A 101E to Grove Lane when three appeared in the City this afternoon; operated by 4800. This was around 1620, iirc
2247 was on 6 leaving solihull stn around 08.40. Received a message from control. Terminated in solihull. Then went up the bus onky lane to turn left onto lode ln. Not sure what it was doing
Quote from: 37351ml on May 02, 2018, 08:54:29 AM
2247 was on 6 leaving solihull stn around 08.40. Received a message from control. Terminated in solihull. Then went up the bus onky lane to turn left onto lode ln. Not sure what it was doing
Just running dead to City via Coventry Road to get back on time avoiding the chaos in Sparkbrook
4198-246E Russell's hall
4946 - 29E New Street Station
Street deck on 9E caused by 12 minute delay on lye high street
6886 - 47E, Turves Green, Groverley Lane
6868 - 22E, California, Barnes Hill
2 Consecutive 9E's on Hagley Rd, between Wolverhampton Rd & Bearwood to Portland Rd around 16.50 today.
2 consecutive 9Es too bear wood passed colley gate about 18:00
6862 - 29E, Harborne
6881 - 24E, Quinton Ridgacre Road
2235 - 6E to Camp Hill Island (from Solihull)
Just spotted at 74E in West Bromwich for Hockley
Quote from: sonic84 on June 02, 2018, 01:54:01 PM
Just spotted at 74E in West Bromwich for Hockley
Saw 4961 do a 74E to Hockley in West Bromwich around noon.
60E - Wagon Lane?
Quote from: MasterPlan on June 08, 2018, 12:42:55 PM
60E - Wagon Lane?
Wagon Lane is in Sheldon, by the country park.
X64 - Woodcock Hill
7E college rd crossways
Change bus 4388 18E Bangham Pit this morning after 4361 failed to start.
22E, Bartley Green Romsley Road
80A to Cape Hill
just seen a 128E to Edgbaston Five Ways
4445 was on Burney lane at 14:45 operating a 14E to Lea Hall.
4279 - 94E Arran Way - Passed the Hunters Moon about 20 minutes ago.
1876 - 65E Salford Circus - On the Priory Queensway at about 13:30.
Quote from: 2206 on June 18, 2018, 03:06:15 PM
4278 - 94E Arran Way - Passed the Hunters Moon about 20 minutes ago.
1876 - 65E Salford Circus - On the Priory Queensway at about 13:30.
Was it definitely 4278 or 4279? I only ask because 4278 is/was an AG bus.
Quote from: V89MOA on June 18, 2018, 03:23:43 PM
Was it definitely 4278 or 4279? I only ask because 4278 is/was an AG bus.
My mistake, yes it was 4279.
Omnilink on the 7E to College Road, Crossways
1822 was operating a 55E to the Fox and Goose earlier.
It was on Nechells Parkway at about 16:10.
The 120/A's seemed to be bunched up at the moment. The heavy traffic on Thimblemill Road isn't helping.
2108 - 120E to Edgbaston, Five Ways, then 3 buses together, an Omnilink on a full length 120A, a ticket branded Trident on the 120 & a 120(A)E to Edgbaston, Five Ways (1936)
4528 - 94E, Arran Way
4801 - 16, City Centre Priory Queensway.
4953 - 5E to Pheasey - 15:45 leaving Sutton
4575 - 2E, Sparkhill, Stoney Lane. Seen on Yardley Wood Road
60E - Wagon Lane - 4913 - left city at 11:25.
1830 - 55E Hurst Lane.
Arrived in the City Centre in convey with 1821 and then left in convey with 1821 operating a 55E to Hurst Lane at 12:54.
6821 - 94E Ward End (displaying 94C).
1815 - 55E Hurst Lane.
There was a convey of 6 buses heading along the Washwood Heath Road on the 55/94 together earlier as well - including 1818, 1809, another 18XX, 4505 and a 46XX, also joined by 6821 in the City Centre at 13:13.
With JZG operating Unload Only along that section.
43E to Princes End earlier
1886 on a 4H to Halesowen
6853 - 61'E', Selly Oak
I have to say that 'Short Journey' underneath is barely readable.
Quote from: 2206 on July 20, 2018, 02:26:09 PM
6821 - 94E Ward End (displaying 94C).
1815 - 55E Hurst Lane.
There was a convey of 6 buses heading along the Washwood Heath Road on the 55/94 together earlier as well - including 1818, 1809, another 18XX, 4505 and a 46XX, also joined by 6821 in the City Centre at 13:13.
With JZG operating Unload Only along that section.
there was a rtc
Quote from: Hammad on August 20, 2018, 10:55:23 PM
there was a rtc
I'm well aware that there was an RTC, on that paticular day. Though the convey mentioned above was before the RTC took place.
Though I don't understand why your replying to a post from weeks ago?
The post is dated July 20th todays date is, August 20th?
5518 - 61'E', Pebble Mill
Quote from: MasterPlan on August 22, 2018, 05:37:03 PM
5518 - 61'E', Pebble Mill
That's a short working you don't see very often, I haven't seen Pebble Mill on a bus for years!
Quote from: Gareth on August 22, 2018, 06:51:49 PM
That's a short working you don't see very often, I haven't seen Pebble Mill on a bus for years!
I know, I had to read it twice!
Quote from: MasterPlan on August 22, 2018, 05:37:03 PM
5518 - 61'E', Pebble Mill
Presumably allows the bus to turn right down Pebble Mill Road, left onto Pershore Road, Priory Road allowing it take up service from Priory Road.
833 - 5'E', Hall Green
4939 - 60E - Deritend, Adderley Street
94e Arran Way left city not long ago.
5510 - 63'E', Northfield
6840 on a short journey on the 24 but no longer showing the 'E' - Quinton Tesco likely to be easily confused with the usual Quinton Road West (the black on white 'short journey' underneath is very difficult to decipher).
6869 on a 24 'E' to Harborne is the bus behind.
X21 - Weoley Castle
4924 - 80A, Cape Hill
A number of short workings on the Harborne corridor at the moment. Hardly surprising given the state of the city centre
2134 currently working a X21 short from city to University
4592 - 18'E', Northfield
2235 leaving Solihull 12:05 as a 6 to Camp Hill
6764 529E Willenhall.
6767 529E Portobello.
Quote from: P419 EJW on September 28, 2018, 03:50:12 PM
6764 529E Willenhall.
6767 529E Portobello.
Which directions were they coming from?
6887 - X21, Weoley Castle.
I've noticed that the next stop announcements seem to stop when a route is adjusted early.
Quote from: MasterPlan on October 01, 2018, 06:01:28 PM
6887 - X21, Weoley Castle.
I've noticed that the next stop announcements seem to stop when a route is adjusted early.
I'm sure they've worked when i've been on a X2 short to Yardley Swan from Solihull, but then again those are timetabled.
There certainly seems to be a connection between those next stop announcements and the destination displays as well though - there were no next stop announcements on 6853 on a X2 to Birmingham this afternoon as the driver had not changed the display from X2 Solihull so they were stuck displaying "Solihull Railway Station"
Quote from: 2206 on October 01, 2018, 06:20:15 PM
I'm sure they've worked when i've been on a X2 short to Yardley Swan from Solihull, but then again those are timetabled.
There certainly seems to be a connection between those next stop announcements and the destination displays as well though - there were no next stop announcements on 6853 on a X2 to Birmingham this afternoon as the driver had not changed the display from X2 Solihull so they were stuck displaying "Solihull Railway Station"
Yeah it makes that noise that it does when the display is being changed and then cuts out the rest of the announcements.
1884 - 4H short to West Brom northbound, 14:30 Sandwell and Dudley Station
Quote from: Kevin on October 02, 2018, 02:31:32 PM
1884 - 4H short to West Brom northbound, 14:30 Sandwell and Dudley Station
I always wonderd does the 4H or 4M have an E or not
44xx (didn't see all the fleet number) 97E Shirestone Road at 0745 this morning passing Selfridges. It's been a long time since i saw this and it was great to see "E" instead of "Short Journey"
6 to Robin Hood Island. The inverse 'Short Journey' text doesn't really work on flip-dot displays in my opinion, which are hard to read at a distance at the best of times, just looked a garbled mess!
Quote from: Steve3229vp on October 02, 2018, 06:26:49 PM
44xx (didn't see all the fleet number) 97E Shirestone Road at 0745 this morning passing Selfridges. It's been a long time since i saw this and it was great to see "E" instead of "Short Journey"
The 11's certainly all still show 11E.
The 60, 55 and 94 all show "E" as well.
Quote from: 2206 on October 02, 2018, 06:57:08 PM
The 11's certainly all still show 11E.
The 60, 55 and 94 all show "E" as well.
Because they're still using the old displays.
Quote from: Stu on October 02, 2018, 06:29:39 PM
6 to Robin Hood Island. The inverse 'Short Journey' text doesn't really work on flip-dot displays in my opinion, which are hard to read at a distance at the best of times, just looked a garbled mess!
To be fair it's hard to decipher on the white LEDs too. I'd wager that half the people getting on the 24 short to Quinton Tesco I saw recently were oblivious to the fact that it wasn't going to Quinton Road West.
X10 disparaging Birmingham upon reaching Halesowen, a few stops after that it had gone to edgbaston five ways. Presume he must have got the call by AVL at that moment?
Quote from: Mike K on October 02, 2018, 10:17:41 PM
To be fair it's hard to decipher on the white LEDs too. I'd wager that half the people getting on the 24 short to Quinton Tesco I saw recently were oblivious to the fact that it wasn't going to Quinton Road West.
I wouldn't be surprised if they actually never bothered reading the display in the first place.
I've seen quite a few people trying to get on a terminating 11E to Acocks Green at Acocks Green and tonnes of people who remain seated after the bus has terminated, i've seen some 11E's to Ward End where a few people have remained seated and haven't bothered to get of and still haven't got of when the bus turns round heading back to Acocks Green.
I've seen the same thing happening on the X2 shorts to the Swan, where people are seemingly unaware that it's a short journey - though the driver who does that usually calls out last stop on the speaker.
Quote from: 2206 on October 02, 2018, 10:31:34 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if they actually never bothered reading the display in the first place.
I've seen quite a few people trying to get on a terminating 11E to Acocks Green at Acocks Green and tonnes of people who remain seated after the bus has terminated, i've seen some 11E's to Ward End where a few people have remained seated and haven't bothered to get of and still haven't got of when the bus turns round heading back to Acocks Green.
I've seen the same thing happening on the X2 shorts to the Swan, where people are seemingly unaware that it's a short journey - though the driver who does that usually calls out last stop on the speaker.
Some people are fundamentally thick and will never get it no matter how clear, but highly similar destinations, no 'E' suffix and a barely legible black on white 'short journey' that looks, until the bus is virtually upon you, like a fault on the LED display certainly don't help matters.
What I don't understand is why when a route has been adjusted to a short working the driver can't let the passengers know there and then? As opposed to telling them upon arrival.
6888 - X22, California
Quote from: MasterPlan on October 03, 2018, 07:17:57 PM
X21, California
Strange. X21 doesn't even go through California does it?
Quote from: Mike K on October 03, 2018, 07:40:38 PM
Strange. X21 doesn't even go through California does it?
Haha yes sorry, that was a typo. Corrected now. Reminds me of when X64, California Barnes Hill was listed amongst the show shorts on the NX website.
It's not a good state of affairs when a 20 min service like the X22 is being adjusted.
Ironically on Harbornes where routes have been withdrawn due to reliability issues, the 23/24 aren't running too badly from city in the evening peak at the moment. My bus home this evening was showing 'on time' and yesterday had to wait time at Calthorpe Road and Lordswood Road. Not using Smallbrook Queensway out of city certainly seems to have helped.
Mornings towards city are a complete lottery though.
5518 - 61, Selly Oak, with another 55** behind it on a 61 to Northfield.
Forgot to mention there was a 61 just in front also.
A 4H to West Brom- something was very messed up tonight. Had to wait 30+ mins for a nx or diamond bus
Quote from: MasterPlan on October 05, 2018, 04:11:21 PM
5518 - 61, Selly Oak, with another 55** behind it on a 61 to Northfield.
55xx on a 63 to 'Woodlands' a short time ago too. (I believe that was renamed the Royal Orthopedic Hospital quite some time ago).
6839 - X20, Longbridge
From a couple of days ago
31E bloxwich
6888 - X22, California
5506 - 63, Longbridge
6826 - X22, University
1923 - 27, Yardley Wood
Something surely has to be done about the x22 especially. The amount of E workings is incredible. Today I saw 2 in convoy
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 10, 2018, 08:03:52 PM
Something surely has to be done about the x22 especially. The amount of E workings is incredible. Today I saw 2 in convoy
There were six X20/21/22s within around 10 mins heading out of town this evening. Absolute shambles of a corridor. Heard someone sat behind me on the 23 the other day moaning about having to wait over half an hour for a bus home from work and had given up using the X22, taking the 23 instead and walking the rest of the way home.
Quote from: Mike K on October 10, 2018, 08:33:07 PM
There were six X20/21/22s within around 10 mins heading out of town this evening. Absolute shambles of a corridor. Heard someone sat behind me on the 23 the other day moaning about having to wait over half an hour for a bus home from work and had given up using the X22, taking the 23 instead and walking the rest of the way home.
I overheard the driver getting off an X21 in the City saying it took them 58 mins to get from the QE to City. The traffic is getting beyond ridiculous.
Is the E prefix actually being used any more, seen a number of buses on short working but displaying just the route numbers.
eg: shouldn't the X10 journeys between Birmingham and Merry Hill theoretically be X10E as the full route is Birmingham to Gornal Wood!
Quote from: MasterPlan on October 10, 2018, 09:31:19 PM
I overheard the driver getting off an X21 in the City saying it took them 58 mins to get from the QE to City. The traffic is getting beyond ridiculous.
QE Hospital & University to and from city centre
FASTThey really need to drop the X and the Fast bit
Quote from: Mike K on October 10, 2018, 08:33:07 PM
There were six X20/21/22s within around 10 mins heading out of town this evening. Absolute shambles of a corridor. Heard someone sat behind me on the 23 the other day moaning about having to wait over half an hour for a bus home from work and had given up using the X22, taking the 23 instead and walking the rest of the way home.
Doesn't it have a bus gate between QE and city too?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 10, 2018, 09:38:13 PM
Is the E prefix actually being used any more, seen a number of buses on short working but displaying just the route numbers.
eg: shouldn't the X10 journeys between Birmingham and Merry Hill theoretically be X10E as the full route is Birmingham to Gornal Wood!
It is, the 94, 55, 11A/C, 14, 97, 28 and 60, certainly all still use the E prefix.
I saw a 190X at the Fox and Goose this evening displaying 28E.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 10, 2018, 09:38:13 PM
Is the E prefix actually being used any more, seen a number of buses on short working but displaying just the route numbers.
eg: shouldn't the X10 journeys between Birmingham and Merry Hill theoretically be X10E as the full route is Birmingham to Gornal Wood!
no because it's timetabled and if you say that you can say shouldn't the 28 say 28E as it terminates at Heartlands Hospital for most of the day they are timetabled
Quote from: Hammad on October 11, 2018, 05:27:44 PM
no because it's timetabled and if you say that you can say shouldn't the 28 say 28E as it terminates at Heartlands Hospital for most of the day they are timetabled
No, it's not because they are timetabled.
A timetabled 11E to Ward End, displays "11E Ward End", as is the same in lots of other cases.
The majority of trips on the 28 terminate at Heartlands Hospital anyway and have never shown an , most of the time Heartlands Hospital is the terminus, nobody is going to get on, thinking it's going to Small Heath. It's only Sunday and evening trips that carry onto Small Heath, it doesn't need to show E or short journey.
The 'E' suffix indicates an 'Exception'.
Which means an 'exception' from the normal timetable/journey.
Short workings will show -E because the journey is not completing the full normal route.
In the case of the 28, the evening and Sunday journeys are 'exceptions' because they continue beyond the 'normal' route to Small Heath, so they correctly show as 28E journeys.
Certainly a number of routes at AG and YW (can't really speak for any other garages as I don't regularly see their buses now) have dropped the -E suffix for short workings; it was interesting waiting for the 50 earlier, and it felt very 'London-esque' to see a 50 to 'Alcester Lanes End' followed by one showing 'Kings Heath', both with 'Short Journey' on the bottom line. The driver of the bus I got on was also making it clear to boarding passengers that he was only going as far as Kings Heath, for the benefit of those who don't look up at those big bright displays on the front of the bus.
Quote from: Stu on October 11, 2018, 06:09:54 PM
The 'E' suffix indicates an 'Exception'.
Which means an 'exception' from the normal timetable/journey.
Short workings will show -E because the journey is not completing the full normal route.
In the case of the 28, the evening and Sunday journeys are 'exceptions' because they continue beyond the 'normal' route to Small Heath, so they correctly show as 28E journeys.
Certainly a number of routes at AG and YW (can't really speak for any other garages as I don't regularly see their buses now) have dropped the -E suffix for short workings; it was interesting waiting for the 50 earlier, and it felt very 'London-esque' to see a 50 to 'Alcester Lanes End' followed by one showing 'Kings Heath', both with 'Short Journey' on the bottom line. The driver of the bus I got on was also making it clear to boarding passengers that he was only going as far as Kings Heath, for the benefit of those who don't look up at those big bright displays on the front of the bus.
No they don't display 28E.
They display "28 Small Heath".
6841 - X1 - Short journey to Meriden Green - 16:45 Yardley Swan.
Quote from: Stu on October 11, 2018, 06:09:54 PM
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In the case of the 28, the evening and Sunday journeys are 'exceptions' because they continue beyond the 'normal' route to Small Heath, so they correctly show as 28E journeys.
...
Until recently the Small Heath journeys were numbered 28B, they only showed 28E on the opposite journey because they terminate short of the "normal" terminus of Scott Arms
Quote from: Kevin on October 13, 2018, 05:12:48 PM
Until recently the Small Heath journeys were numbered 28B, they only showed 28E on the opposite journey because they terminate short of the "normal" terminus of Scott Arms
They've been numbered "28", for a number of years now (7/8), so that was some time ago now.
They currently show "28 Small Heath" and "28E Dyas Road", that's been the case for some time now, as can be seen from this pic of 1865 -
https://www.flickr.com/photos/127316282@N03/30025922163/in/photolist-244GvZe-MKhGza-22Ghuer
Quote from: 2206 on October 11, 2018, 06:13:59 PM
No they don't display 28E.
They display "28 Small Heath".
Quote from: 2206 on October 13, 2018, 05:18:37 PM
They've been numbered "28", for a number of years now (7/8), so that was some time ago now.
They currently show "28 Small Heath" and "28E Dyas Road", that's been the case for some time now, as can be seen from this pic of 1865 -
https://www.flickr.com/photos/127316282@N03/30025922163/in/photolist-244GvZe-MKhGza-22Ghuer
OK, so I stand corrected. But you are missing the point of my post, which was to explain the nature of the -E suffix, and what it represents. 28E 'would be' correct, if that was what they displayed on a Sunday, which I'm sure they used to, even if they don't now.
Quote from: Kevin on October 13, 2018, 05:12:48 PM
Until recently the Small Heath journeys were numbered 28B, they only showed 28E on the opposite journey because they terminate short of the "normal" terminus of Scott Arms
They haven't displayed 28B for years. The stops flags also use to display 28B.
Quote from: Stu on October 13, 2018, 07:10:40 PM
OK, so I stand corrected. But you are missing the point of my post, which was to explain the nature of the -E suffix, and what it represents. 28E 'would be' correct, if that was what they displayed on a Sunday, which I'm sure they used to, even if they don't now.
I don't recall them ever displaying "28E" on the Small Heath trips, as has been said above it did used to be "28B", some years back now.
6880-x22 California- being driven stupidly slowly I must add
27, Weoley Castle
Another 27, Weoley Castle arriving at around 19:10
4645 - 11E, Slade Road, behind another 11E in Selly Oak, can't say I've seen that one before.
Quote from: MasterPlan on October 19, 2018, 09:51:51 AM
27, Weoley Castle
Another 27, Weoley Castle arriving at around 19:10
4645 - 11E, Slade Road, behind another 11E in Selly Oak, can't say I've seen that one before.
There are a few timetabled trips, since the 22nd April 2018 - the 17:27, 17:45 and 18:14 - 11C, as well as the 23:25 11A, from Acocks Green all terminate at Stockland Green.
Another 11E destination you wouldn't see very often it was introduced following timetable change is "11E Harborne", the 07:47 11A from Acocks Green terminates at Harborne.
5 'E' - Sarehole Mill - 4289
Seen at 1710 today in Waterloo Road, Smethwick, heading from city: 82E "Bearwood Road Barleycorn". Unusual, and also another example of a long-established pub landmark no longer there or no longer with the original name, it now being 'Hadley Hall' banqueting/wedding venue.
Quote from: Smethwickian on October 20, 2018, 06:26:57 PM
Seen at 1710 today in Waterloo Road, Smethwick, heading from city: 82E "Bearwood Road Barleycorn". Unusual, and also another example of a long-established pub landmark no longer there or no longer with the original name, it now being 'Hadley Hall' banqueting/wedding venue.
Kind of reminds me of the 24E journeys terminating at Court Oak Road, 'The Punchbowl'. Another pub now long gone and, in its place, is now a newly-erected residence for the elderly. With the recent blind changes on BC (and AG/YW) routes, I'd be surprised if it still displayed 'Punchbowl' - but I doubt it. This short working was generally the terminating point for buses during *heavy* snow season.
2138 - X21, University. Wait half an hour for a bus and this is the first one to arrive. Absolute joke. The wait continues once again...
EDIT: 2139 has turned up a minute later. Still a shambles of a service though.
2138 got as far as Bath Row before being took out of service...
There was a 6E yesterday to Russells Hall Hospital yesterday
11e from Dudley to Wednesbury.
Not what is needed this time of night, as Im still in Wednesbury trying to get home, especially as another single deck has gone past full!
Lots of E working from Dudley due to the serous rtc on new Birmingham road (just of the 11/11A Route)
74E Dudley Port In Burnt tree
126E Portland road
X7 - Galton bridge railway station
87E Spring Hill island
Quote from: Jack6101 on October 23, 2018, 08:00:45 PM
Lots of E working from Dudley due to the serous rtc on new Birmingham road (just of the 11/11A Route)
74E Dudley Port In Burnt tree
126E Portland road
X7 - Galton bridge railway station
87E Spring Hill island
What serious rtc? Nx never mentioned it when I had a moan on Twitter!
Quote from: Westy on October 23, 2018, 08:51:49 PM
What serious rtc? Nx never mentioned it when I had a moan on Twitter!
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/black-country/lorry-live-updates-birmingham-road-15315727
Quote from: Westy on October 23, 2018, 08:51:49 PM
What serious rtc? Nx never mentioned it when I had a moan on Twitter!
Yes, sometimes when your moaning about the 11 being held up, someone else is dying as this poor lorry driver did.
Quote from: Tony on October 23, 2018, 09:04:21 PM
Yes, sometimes when your moaning about the 11 being held up, someone else is dying as this poor lorry driver did.
Died this morning unfortunately. Road still closed.
The one side still closes now gonna be big clean up throughts are with the drivers family
28E - Hassop Road - 1926
In a convoy with 1874 and 7031.
28E - College Road, The Crossways
Quote from: Tony on October 23, 2018, 09:04:21 PM
Yes, sometimes when your moaning about the 11 being held up, someone else is dying as this poor lorry driver did.
No need for that Tony.
Condolences to the driver & his family, but that doesnt alter the fact the service is regularly having issues, even without a fatal RTC added into the mix.
I'm surprised no one flagged it at the review.
Quote from: Westy on October 24, 2018, 05:06:03 PM
No need for that Tony.
Condolences to the driver & his family, but that doesnt alter the fact the service is regularly having issues, even without a fatal RTC added into the mix.
I'm surprised no one flagged it at the review.
So ask the councils why they are doing nothing about traffic congestion that the buses are stuck in. No-one at National Express wants late buses. Most drivers hate being late. If the timetable was stretched out to give enough time on the worst days you would soon be moaning about drivers parking up for 5-10 minutes waiting time on days when it wasn't as bad.
Quote from: Tony on October 24, 2018, 05:41:01 PM
So ask the councils why they are doing nothing about traffic congestion that the buses are stuck in. No-one at National Express wants late buses. Most drivers hate being late. If the timetable was stretched out to give enough time on the worst days you would soon be moaning about drivers parking up for 5-10 minutes waiting time on days when it wasn't as bad.
Like what you do on the 4H you mean in peak times, giving excessive timing.
4720 - 35, Brandwood End. With another 35 behind it and the next one due in 2 mins.
35 'E' - Monyhull Hall Road
1875 pulled from service on the 28 at Hawthorn Road 10:00, no apparent reason can only guess someone didn't turn up for work
6766 - 529E Willenhall (from Walsall).
27 - Yardley Wood
☓21 - Weoley Castle, with an ☓21 parked behind it and another arriving a few mins after.
Quote from: MasterPlan on November 07, 2018, 06:12:02 PM
27 - Yardley Wood
Depending on when/where you saw this, alternate journeys that leave Harborne after 5:35pm are timetabled to terminate at Yardley Wood garage (these journeys show 'Warstock' on the realtime info displays)
Quote from: Stu on November 07, 2018, 07:01:19 PM
Depending on when/where you saw this, alternate journeys that leave Harborne after 5:35pm are timetabled to terminate at Yardley Wood garage (these journeys show 'Warstock' on the realtime info displays)
Fair enough, that could've been the case.
6855 on a 23 short to California, displaying #ThankYou100 instead of 'short journey'.
Given the amount of people still in it when I got off just a few stops short of California, I can only assume that most were oblivious to the fact that it was a short working.
466*- 11E to slade road
6e - Camp Hill. In Shirley on Stratford Rd as i type this.
Another 23 to California and one to Five ways
74E - Dudley Port. Nice to see the E suffix back in action too.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 08, 2018, 07:03:19 PM
466*- 11E to slade road
There's 3 runnings in the evening now timetabled to finish at slade road
X7 to Ladywood
94e - Hurst Lane.
6838 just left town on an X21 short to Weoley Castle, showing 'part route' on the display. It was packed and with an X22 immediately behind.
X7 - Dudley
6743 operated the last 937 of the day from Birmingham (18:45 departure) 36 minutes late last night as a 937E to Kingstanding Circle before heading back to garage.
Platty on x70 to coleshill at about 12 today.
X22 to field lane
6839 - ☓20, Northfield
6887 - ☓21, University ::)
94E - Hurst Lane displaying part route
4951 - 74E, Hockley
9 to bearwood.
126 seen turning right to join Hagley road from bearwood road with 126 on display
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 30, 2018, 05:29:05 PM
9 to bearwood.
126 seen turning right to join Hagley road from bearwood road with 126 on display
Can't turn right from Bearwood Road to Hagley Road. Can turn right from Bearwood Road to Hagley Road West, however.
About 11.15am today there was an 80A 'Dudley Road Summerfield Park' unloading at that stop from West Bromwich direction.
23E to five ways. It says short route as well
35 'E' - Monyhull Hall Road - 4729
61E, Northfield
2139 - ☓21, Weoley Castle
6887 - ☓22, University
4942 did a 45E to West Heath today, around 1:30
Single Decker WB89 showing Smethwick Blue Gates 89E at around 18.30 last night. I saw it as I was coming back from West Brom.
I noticed once again yesterday people confused when the bus reached it's amended destination. So I thought would it not help if there was more information on the display? Like Weoley Castle Square instead of Weoley Castle or University Station instead of University. Or would it make no difference as peope don't pay enough attention anyway ::)
80E to Smethwick, West Cross
followed by an 80E to Cape Hill
A seemingly pointless 5E to Sparkbrook, heading out of city around 5:50pm, spotted on Stratford Road in Sparkbrook. Presumably this would have finished down by Aldi, at least it might have helped carried some passengers only going that far from the city centre.
On a side note, it seems the -E suffix is being restored, alongside the 'Part Route' message, which I think helps with clarity, certainly for those who pay attention to the displays. Not long after was a 6 to Robin Hood Island, which just showed 'Thankyou100' instead of Part Route.
6879 - 24E, Court Oak
2139 - ☓21, Weoley Castle
22** 4 branded - 5E, Sarehole Mill
Saw 6136 on the 50 in Moseley at about 1625 displaying "Highgate" on the top line and "Thankyou100" on the bottom. No "E" or "short journey".
X2 branded MMC - 60E, Wagon Lane
4914 on an 80A (short journey) to Cape Hill. Spotted on Smallbrook Queensway around 16:15
X10 to Five Ways seen in Quinton around 6.30pm
2 x10s to bearwood in convoy. What's the point in that?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 13, 2018, 09:44:42 AM
2 x10s to bearwood in convoy. What's the point in that?
Plenty of point. Drivers hours could be one reason, both buses could be early boards where drivers are reaching their limit. One might run dead to relief and the other in service back from there. Better than having a massive gap in service going back towards Merry Hill if they ran into City. There was a burst water main on the Hagley Road last night so don't know if this is still a problem this morning
Quote from: John on December 13, 2018, 09:52:43 AM
Plenty of point. Drivers hours could be one reason, both buses could be early boards where drivers are reaching their limit. One might run dead to relief and the other in service back from there. Better than having a massive gap in service going back towards Merry Hill if they ran into City. There was a burst water main on the Hagley Road last night so don't know if this is still a problem this morning
This is still a problem. All buses seem to be going only as far as bearwood. Surely there's no need to send 2 x10s to bearwood though? One terminated and gone back to gornal Wood, not sure on other ones
4947 - ☓70, Coleshill Station
Quote from: MasterPlan on December 19, 2018, 04:19:08 PM
4947 - ☓70, Coleshill Station
it was running in convoy wiv the X70 at 3:40
Quote from: Hammad on December 19, 2018, 05:18:12 PM
it was running in convoy wiv the X70 at 3:40
Yes it was parked on Priory Queensway behind 4898 when I saw it.
A 76E to Robin Hood Island was my bus home from Kings Heath this evening; the driver was politely informing passengers as they board that he was only going to Hall Green as he was 'very late', and that those going on towards Solihull could change onto the 6.
A couple of 529e's from Wolves to Willenhall & Junction 10 M6 respectively!
(No good to me though! Had to race round to the 326 stop instead!)
16E - Church Lane
17E to Green Lane
Saw 6139 on a 4e to Sparkbrook in Acocks Green earlier.
Quote from: MasterPlan on December 19, 2018, 05:47:38 PM
Yes it was parked on Priory Queensway behind 4898 when I saw it.
Duplicate. Runs as far as Wincanton at Hams Hall. Waits time. Departs on time as the 'normal' bus will more than likely be late. To City then Garage. There's one at 2050 as well!
6139 on the 5 this morning
4969 - 74E, Hockley
17e to Green Lane just left the Yew Tree.
One from last night when I was in Birmingham. Enviro 4723 left the City on a short working of the 35 showing Kings Heath at about 1940.
4872 - 47E, Turves Green
6865 - 23 to Woodgate
27E, Barnes Hill (Towards Harborne)
Just seen an X20 to Northfield. Surely it can't be that late already...
If it is timetabled I've never seen it before.
3E to Sparkbrook, with a 2E also to Sparkbrook not far behind it, both seen not long ago on Yardley Wood Road heading towards city.
4807 - 16E, Hamstead Village.
45** on the 94E to Bacons End
4445 on the 14E to Chelmsley
There was a 9 Branded platinum on a 9E to Halesowen at Five Ways on the Hayley Rd about 10:30
Quote from: MasterPlan on January 21, 2019, 06:47:27 AM
Just seen an X20 to Northfield. Surely it can't be that late already...
If it is timetabled I've never seen it before.
they are not timetabled for E workings to Northfield. With the University and QE being rammed during rush hour , sometimes they are ran to Northfield! Doesn't help Holloway Circus can get jammed aswell as Bath Row
Quote from: mrboshell on January 24, 2019, 09:56:59 PM
they are not timetabled for E workings to Northfield. With the University and QE being rammed during rush hour , sometimes they are ran to Northfield! Doesn't help Holloway Circus can get jammed aswell as Bath Row
I know they're not, I was being facetious to be honest. It had nothing to do with rush hour though it was 6:47am when I posted that. Which is why I said surely it can't be late already...
Quote from: MasterPlan on January 24, 2019, 10:25:25 PM
I know they're not, I was being facetious to be honest. It had nothing to do with rush hour though it was 6:47am when I posted that. Which is why I said surely it can't be late already...
Tbf the uni and the qe can be unpredictable, even at that time of day. Or unless he accidentally put up an e to Northfield
Yesterday, A 23E to California
2134 - X21, Weoley Castle. But the driver carried on past the Square.
6771 is doing 529E Motorway Island Junction 10.
Quote from: P419 EJW on January 31, 2019, 01:07:38 PM
6771 is doing 529E Motorway Island Junction 10.
Is that Arnwood Close or the Bentley Road North stop it terminates at?
Just noticed the Sunday 28E displaying part route is this a new thing across the network now ?
1843 is currently doing a 952E from Perry Beeches to Perry Barr.
6716 just left Walsall on a 6E to Mere Green.
6944 on a 6E to Shirley
1760 on a 51E to perry barr
4860 is doing 6E to Mere Green.
6805 - 94E - Arran Way
There was also a 14E with the rather unhelpful 'Chelmsley' on the display earlier. I do wish correct place names were displayed much like PB Geminis and their Chelmsley W'd Via Castle Brom.
Quote from: Gareth on February 27, 2019, 04:36:12 PM
There was also a 14E with the rather unhelpful 'Chelmsley' on the display earlier. I do wish correct place names were displayed much like PB Geminis and their Chelmsley W'd Via Castle Brom.
Lots of people probably don't look at them anymore anyway, I would also have thought its more helpful and i'd have think thought most people would know where Castle Brom or Chelmsley W'd are unlike a place like "94E Arran Way". Arran Ways is also a road that the 94 doesn't even go down.
Travelled home this evening on a 2 to "Yardley Wood Depot" - haven't personally seen that one before.
Saw a 4e to Golden Hillock Rd from city earlier this evening.
4877 - 45E, Kings Norton
4941 - 61E Northfield
5517 - 61E to Selly Oak
6781 on the X7 to Ladywood Spring Hill
6782 did an X7 to Oldbury too
yesterday there was a 907E to New Oscott
and an 18E to Bangham Pit
1844 is on a 4HE to West Brom
Quote from: Westy on January 31, 2019, 04:42:38 PM
Is that Arnwood Close or the Bentley Road North stop it terminates at?
Probably Primley Avenue before island so it can loop back to Walsall? Just a passing guess.
Quote from: l.murphy123 on March 28, 2019, 12:17:06 AM
Probably Primley Avenue before island so it can loop back to Walsall? Just a passing guess.
That E was running from Wolves direction.
Primley Avenue is on the Walsall side of J10.
45E - Kings Norton
6838 - 60E South Yardley
6806 - X4 to Sutton Coldfield
Quote from: mesub on March 31, 2019, 03:07:14 PM
6806 - X4 to Sutton Coldfield
It's usual, every other X4 on a Sunday goes to Sutton.
Quote from: mesub on March 31, 2019, 03:06:17 PM
6838 - 60E South Yardley
Alternate Sunday daytime journeys only run as far as Swan Island, South Yardley.
6704 worked an 11E yesterday to Bearwood (in the clockwise direction of the Outer Circle) yesterday at around 17:00ish.
4879 - 60E, Sheldon
4733 has just left Walsall on a 77E to Beggars Bush.
Things were so bad on our X4 trip this afternoon, the next journey was cut to an X4E to Erdington from City
5516 - 61ᴱ Northfield
50ᴱ Kings Heath
6900 - 50ᴱ Maypole
6887 - ☓21 Weoley Castle
4800 - 94ᴱ Castle Bromwich
2138 - ☓22 California
2134 - ☓21 University. Absolutely rammed full on the Bristol Road. Something is going wrong somewhere.
2138 - ☓21 Weoley Castle
Quote from: MasterPlan on April 23, 2019, 10:59:34 AM
2134 - ☓21 University. Absolutely rammed full on the Bristol Road. Something is going wrong somewhere.
Yes, just look at the local news
55E to Buckland End in city just after 12:20
4E to Pendeford 3/4 branded 2017
6869 - 23ᴱ Woodgate
5510 - 61ᴱ Northfield
Just got off 4461 from Birmingham on a 97. Part way through journey it was radioed to alter to a 97e to tile cross white Hart. Unsure why but traffic was quite busy around Bordesley Green.
6714 has just arrived into Walsall on a short X51 to Great Wyrley.
6826 - 63ᴱ Northfield
6853 - 63ᴱ Longbridge
Quote from: Michael Bevan on May 02, 2019, 12:10:58 PM
6714 has just arrived into Walsall on a short X51 to Great Wyrley.
One afternoon journey is timetabled to end in Great Wyrley where it then goes to Cheslyn Hay Academy to do a school service
Quote from: l.murphy123 on May 08, 2019, 12:21:01 AM
One afternoon journey is timetabled to end in Great Wyrley where it then goes to Cheslyn Hay Academy to do a school service
Is that the same for the morning E from Great Wryley?
Quote from: Westy on May 08, 2019, 11:44:33 AM
Is that the same for the morning E from Great Wryley?
Yes the timetable is online. It didn't say X51E though, did it?
Quote from: l.murphy123 on May 08, 2019, 12:21:01 AM
One afternoon journey is timetabled to end in Great Wyrley where it then goes to Cheslyn Hay Academy to do a school service
@l.murphy123 Yes I'm aware of that. However if you look at the time I posted it, you will see it was before that timetabled short journey operates...
Harvest road 3E to blackheath 1953
Some rare and unusual E workings this morning due to the Velo event. I was expecting to see 94E Arran Way, as the website mention Arran Way, but they are showing 94E Smiths Wood. A variation I'd not seen before.
14E Lea Hall. A working I'd not seen since the garage closed. I haven't seen a 55 yet, but I'm expecting Kingshurst maybe?
My 2 to Maypole had become a '2E Yardley Wood Depot' by the time I got off in Billesley.
There was also then a '2E Sparkbrook' in the opposite direction shortly after.
Police incident on Stoney Lane, and temporary traffic lights at Swanshurst Lane island obviously not helping matters!
4639 - 11E, Bearwood Drayton Road
61E - Northfield
1913 - 27E, Barnes Hill interestingly instead of 'California', with 1916 to Harborne just behind.
Quote from: MasterPlan on May 24, 2019, 02:33:43 PM
1913 - 27E, Barnes Hill interestingly instead of 'California', with 1916 to Harborne just behind.
Probably because it'll be more recognisable (Asda Barnes Hill)
Quote from: mesub on May 24, 2019, 03:09:13 PM
Probably because it'll be more recognisable (Asda Barnes Hill)
Ah I hadn't thought it'd be terminating at the Asda to be fair. Makes sense.
4628 - 14E, Tile Cross
4448 - 14E, Chelmsley Wood
4755 on an 80A to Cape Hill (presumably to Windmill Lane). Seem about 10 mins ago at Five Ways
A 94E to Smiths Wood was spotted this morning. A rare one.
6885 - X20 Short Journey to Northfield - Came into the City Centre in a covey of 4 University X20/21/22's (6883, 6885, 6887 and a B7RLE) at 5PM.
4687 - 94E, Smiths Wood
So is Smiths Wood the same as Arran Way? Has it just been re-worded to better reflect the terminus point?
6995 did an inbound 16e to Priory Queensway today, arriving at about 1705.
24 was running late today.
Two came into New Street together at around 3.30 with going out as a 24E to Court Oak.
The 24 I was on was 21 minutes late when it got to Four Dwellings.
6851 - 60E, Wagon Lane
4855 departed Birmingham at around 16:15 on a 33E to Perry Barr. It was operating a short journey to Perry Barr as the vehicle needed to go back to garage to top-up the coolant.
X10 to Portland Road seen in halesowen around 6pm ish tonight
60E - Bullring Markets - 4913
4500 - 94E, Bacons End
4808 - 94E, Smiths Wood
1806 - 55E, Hurst Lane
74E to The Hawthorns from West Bromwich happened earlier
6863 - 23E, California
6883 - X22, California
2137 is on the 24E to Harborne, seen now at Five Ways
Just seen a 10E to Brownhills leave Walsall bus station
1921 on 27E - Barnes Hill with another 27 to Harborne behind it.
Also a 27E to Yardley Wood with another to Maypole behind it...
6872 - 23E - California
Earlier today 6E to Camp Hill, changed mid journey.
4560 on a WN59E to Wednesfield just arrived
Diamond 31E Walsall - Bloxwich
1913 - 27E, California
74E to M5 Jn1 Roundabiut
7517 - ☓21 - University
4898 - ☓22 - California
Incidentally, where do the University shorts terminate? I'd imagine the Station but surely it'd be University Station instead if that was the case.
6882 - X22 - Bartley Green.
On Priory Queensway at 08:30.
Quote from: MasterPlan on September 16, 2019, 05:01:08 PM
7517 - ☓21 - University
4898 - ☓22 - California
Incidentally, where do the University shorts terminate? I'd imagine the Station but surely it'd be University Station instead if that was the case.
University Station I would think, since that's the timing point.
The Station is part of the University, so I don't see the problem with what it says.
(There is also no way they can turn round at the North Gate stop).
Quote from: 2206 on September 17, 2019, 12:07:59 PM
6882 - X22 - Bartley Green.
On Priory Queensway at 08:30.University Station I would think, since that's the timing point.
The Station is part of the University.
(There is also no way they can turn round at the North Gate stop).
In which case it should say University Station really.
Today:
6837 - ☓20 - Northfield
6838 - ☓21 - Weoley Castle
Another bad day by the looks of it with quite a few of them coming in and out of Priory Queensway at the same time.
Quote from: MasterPlan on September 17, 2019, 04:36:14 PM
In which case it should say University Station really.
Why should it say University Station? Trains dropping people off at that same point say University!
Quote from: Tony on September 17, 2019, 07:34:55 PM
Why should it say University Station? Trains dropping people off at that same point say University!
Perhaps could would've been a better word. It may offer a bit more info is all.
6853 - 23E Harborne (the third of three 24s in 5 minutes this evening)
There was a 47** Enviro on a short 80A to Summerfield Park, behind that, 4245 on an 80E to Summerfield Park. Seen at Blue Gates, around 3:10
6897 - 50 to Maypole. Though it doesn't say 50E or Part Route.
6880 - ☓21 - University (Towards City)
1792-17 to Garretts Green.
(Seen it earlier this morning didn't have the time to note it down then. Interestingly, there wasn't the usual "part route" at the bottom of the LED screen and there wasn't an E after the 17).
1798-17E to Yardley (Yew Tree).
6780 just left Dudley on an X8 short to Bearwood.
Loads of short running on the Hagley road services today
Trains wasn't running
Motorway was at a standstill
Police incident at bearwood road down to one lane
Weather
Roads flooding
Quote from: karl724223 on September 24, 2019, 05:33:43 PM
Loads of short running on the Hagley road services today
Trains wasn't running
Motorway was at a standstill
Police incident at bearwood road down to one lane
Weather
Roads flooding
You forgot Brexit too!
6949 - ☓22 - University
Diamond not NX but 31E to Bloxwich for some reason. Seen it happen on NX before.
3E to Wake Green earlier. Apart from the fact I've never seen this short working before, what was more curious was that I saw this in Sparkbrook by the Job Centre heading towards city, and there were passengers on board. Would have been about 9:15pm.
Just got off the 10 in Brownhills and it said 10E on the back but carried on to the rising sun??
6806 - X3 to Lancester Circus
6785 - X8 to Five Ways (1316 off Dudley)
One from yesterday. 6970 on an 87E to Cape Hill, on the Oldbury Road, around 5:50
24E to Court Oak just heading past Five Ways - not seen that destination in a long time.
Quote from: Mike K on October 16, 2019, 09:21:11 AM
24E to Court Oak just heading past Five Ways - not seen that destination in a long time.
Just seen it in harborne followed by a 23E to Woodgate
6945 - X21 to Weoley Castle
6882 - X20 to Longbridge the
One from earlier today, a 45E to Ring Road, Belgrave Middleway. Certainly never seen that one before. It was in the old style of display too.
A few 74s being turned at Hockley this morning due to an incident in Dudley.
31E to Bloxwich from Walsall
Is there meant to be 11E to city road and acocks green at this time of night?
Also my 48 from uni is a 48E to bearwood despite only running 9 minutes late? Surely could have carried on
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 29, 2019, 07:31:07 PM
Is there meant to be 11E to city road and acocks green at this time of night?
Also my 48 from uni is a 48E to bearwood despite only running 9 minutes late? Surely could have carried on
The only vehicle I can see which was 9 minutes late at Bearwood is 4511 which was due there at 18:20 and got there at 18:29, then carried on in service, as did every other 48
Quote from: Tony on October 29, 2019, 07:43:07 PM
The only vehicle I can see which was 9 minutes late at Bearwood is 4511 which was due there at 18:20 and got there at 18:29, then carried on in service, as did every other 48
Nope I caught a Gemini at 19:00 from uni and it was a 48E to bearwood, with the driver informing passengers every time a passenger boarded.
Should have been at uni station at 18:52
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 29, 2019, 08:03:53 PM
Nope I caught a Gemini at 19:00 from uni and it was a 48E to bearwood, with the driver informing passengers every time a passenger boarded.
Should have been at uni station at 18:52
Found it. Because it wasn't due to have been in West Bromwich when you posted it hadn't got onto the finished journies page.
Driver left Terminus 21 late, was only 11 late by Bearwood, but if he didn't get to West Bromwich on time would have broken the RTA or had to park up mid route.
Quote from: Tony on October 29, 2019, 08:24:49 PM
Found it. Because it wasn't due to have been in West Bromwich when you posted it hadn't got onto the finished journies page.
Driver left Terminus 21 late, was only 11 late by Bearwood, but if he didn't get to West Bromwich on time would have broken the RTA or had to park up mid route.
Driver couldn't have made up 10 minutes at that time of night I presume? Or had he have rang control at bearwood 11 minutes late would they have told him to carry on in service?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 29, 2019, 08:43:20 PM
Driver couldn't have made up 10 minutes at that time of night I presume? Or had he have rang control at bearwood 11 minutes late would they have told him to carry on in service?
I can only see the note about the RTA, not where he was when he spoke to control
Quote from: Tony on October 29, 2019, 08:56:51 PM
I can only see the note about the RTA, not where he was when he spoke to control
Ah I see fair enough
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 29, 2019, 07:31:07 PM
Is there meant to be 11E to city road and acocks green at this time of night?
7PM isn't really late at night, they could just be buses coming off at the end of the daytime service. Since the frequency drops to every 20 minutes in the evening.
There are timetabled shorts on the 11A to Harborne, War Lane and Acocks Green in the evening. I often see the 11A's changing the displays to 11E Harborne/Acocks Green at Fox & Goose at about 6/7PM.
6798 - 94E Saltley - At Fox and Goose at about 15:15.
61E - Lee Bank
There was a red & white Enviro on a 45E to Cotteridge outside Boots in town, around 7 this evening
Saw 4802 on a 94E to Saltley inbound around 11:15 just before the Tesco Hodge Hill lights
Saw 1877 on the 17 towards Garretts Green around 12:00 pm today.
24 to Quinton Road West adjusted to a short working at Court Oak just at 4.20.
Traffic in the city seemed unusually busy today!
Quote from: sonic84 on November 09, 2019, 04:22:28 PM
24 to Quinton Road West adjusted to a short working at Court Oak just at 4.20.
Traffic in the city seemed unusually busy today!
Same with merry hill traffic today. Build up to Christmas I suppose
Quote from: sonic84 on November 09, 2019, 04:22:28 PM
24 to Quinton Road West adjusted to a short working at Court Oak just at 4.20.
Traffic in the city seemed unusually busy today!
The 23 and 24 weren't in good shape this afternoon. Saw 3 24s in a row on Harborne High Street outbound, followed a few minutes later by 3 23s in a row - one a short working to California.
Had a brief ride on a 3E to Camp Hill this morning, I thought it was the 7:50am bus from Hullbrook Road, but in fact it was a completely full single deck which was 23 minutes late. Can't remember the last time I've ever seen a bus have to terminate short due to late running that early in the morning!
6869 is doing the 23E to Woodgate
Edit: It was changed to California
6887 - X20 - University.
On St Martins Queensway at 17:08.
4438 - PN6 short to Russell's Hall from Stourbridge
6849 - ☓2 - Hobs Moat
6932 -x10 to bearwood , top of wolvohampton road
4481 - 94E Saltley - At Fox and Goose about 10 minutes ago.
6858 - 23E California
7520 6E Shirley around 11:15 in Shirley
4501 left Birmingham as a 101E to Grove Lane.. Unhelpfully, it only shows 'Handsworth' as the destination.
6988 - 87E to Ladywood. Spotted on Oldbury Road just now
5E to Sarehole Mill, and a 6E to Robin Hood this evening.
55E - Buckland End
4525 - 94E Ward End.
4446 - 14E Tile Cross.
Left Birmingham City Centre at about 17:30.
63E to Pebble Mill in Northfield at 18.45 this evening.
18E YW to Ley Hill about 09.50hrs
4940 on a 45E to Cannon Hill, currently in Cotteridge.
13A(E) - Bearwood - 6102 - around 11am this morning.
820 - WB54E to Cape Hill
6830 - X2 to Digbeth. Left Solihull towards Digbeth at around 13:30. It was operating 27 minutes late.
Quote from: Jack on December 07, 2019, 10:06:31 PM
13A(E) - Bearwood - 6102 - around 11am this morning.
Now that is very unusual I rarely see an truncated 13A or running late well spotted
@Jack as I am not at work I wonder what was the reason for it, its usually the other service from Blackheath to Birmingham that is out of sync.
Quote from: richardjones210368 on December 19, 2019, 05:13:54 PM
Now that is very unusual I rarely see an truncated 13A or running late well spotted @Jack as I am not at work I wonder what was the reason for it, its usually the other service from Blackheath to Birmingham that is out of sync.
Basically the whole city is grinding to a halt again, buses on all corridors running up to an hour late
Quote from: richardjones210368 on December 19, 2019, 05:13:54 PM
Now that is very unusual I rarely see an truncated 13A or running late well spotted @Jack as I am not at work I wonder what was the reason for it, its usually the other service from Blackheath to Birmingham that is out of sync.
I reported that almost two weeks ago now, yeah because the 13A is nothing like the X8 is it?
Plenty of 5E's to New Oscott from West Brom because of an RTC on Newton Road blocking one lane.
4966 - 74E - Dudley Port.
Never seen that one before myself, personally.
25E - Wednesfield
X8 - Bearwood
Seen a 79E to darlaston
5E to new oscott
4H Halesowen
4E West Bromwich
X10 five ways
X8 blackheath
74E Dudley port
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 23, 2019, 06:49:34 PM
Seen a 79E to darlaston
5E to new oscott
4H Halesowen
4E West Bromwich
X10 five ways
X8 blackheath
74E Dudley port
Saw a PB Gemini on a 94E to Ward End. Which then turned round on Stechford Lane.
Also 14E to Chelmsely Interchange.
A couple of 94E workings today. Fox and Goose - In both directions.
And a couple to Bacons End.
4652 - X12 Birmingham Airport.
Left Solihull at around 09:00 this morning.
Sure I may have asked this question in the past, but what is the definition of an E journey.
Whenever I am at Merry Hill, you see the short journeys on the 15 shown as 15E Wallheath on there display, however today I saw the 08:47 timetabled short journey on the 9 between Stourbridge & Halesowen, and the bus just displayed 9 Halesowen.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 14, 2020, 10:33:08 PM
Sure I may have asked this question in the past, but what is the definition of an E journey.
Whenever I am at Merry Hill, you see the short journeys on the 15 shown as 15E Wallheath on there display, however today I saw the 08:47 timetabled short journey on the 9 between Stourbridge & Halesowen, and the bus just displayed 9 Halesowen.
E journeys are basically a short working of the route. Forgot what the E means (think it means exception or something like that.) NX have changed the destination blinds on some buses where it doesn't show the E anymore; doesn't make sense to me.
Quote from: Busboy105 on January 14, 2020, 11:04:03 PM
E journeys are basically a short working of the route. Forgot what the E means (think it means exception or something like that.) NX have changed the destination blinds on some buses where it doesn't show the E anymore; doesn't make sense to me.
Haven't they only been changed for timetabled short workings?
Quote from: MasterPlan on January 15, 2020, 06:47:39 AM
Haven't they only been changed for timetabled short workings?
I believe so as the 19 does some timetabled short workings to Halesowen and I haven't seen any E for a while.
If a route is timetabled to terminate short of the full route, then no, an E or Part route is not used
Like the X4 Sutton shorts don't have this and the LED blind just shows Sutton via Erdington, the on bus announcements still work on this option. There is also a Sutton (Part route) option for us to use I guess when late running and adjusted to turn short but no announcements work with this one
9E five ways
Quote from: John on January 15, 2020, 11:59:19 AM
If a route is timetabled to terminate short of the full route, then no, an E or Part route is not used
They use E and Part Route on the timetabled 11E's to Harborne on the 11A, such as the one at 08:11 from Fox and Goose and the ones in the evening.
Quote from: 2206 on January 15, 2020, 12:04:27 PM
They use E and Part Route on the timetabled 11E's to Harborne on the 11A, such as the one at 08:11 from Fox and Goose and the ones in the evening.
Not all buses have the updated destination blind for timetabled E workings.
Quote from: Busboy105 on January 15, 2020, 01:59:10 PM
Not all buses have the updated destination blind for timetabled E workings.
Which ones don't then?
To be honest. i think the E suffix should be dropped altogether.
How many people who get on a bus aactually notice the E.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 15, 2020, 03:37:12 PM
To be honest. i think the E suffix should be dropped altogether.
How many people who get on a bus aactually notice the E.
A lot! They save drivers so much hassle. Yes some people don't and some have no idea what it means, but definitely worth having
Quote from: Tony on January 15, 2020, 03:53:16 PM
A lot! They save drivers so much hassle. Yes some people don't and some have no idea what it means, but definitely worth having
@Tony It's worth having if it is used the same away across the board.
For example the short journeys on the 15 between Merry Hill and Wallheath are 15E, the short journeys on the 28 between Stourbridge and Merry Hill are just the 28 when theoretically they should be 28E.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 15, 2020, 04:07:09 PM
@Tony It's worth having if it is used the same away across the board.
For example the short journeys on the 15 between Merry Hill and Wallheath are 15E, the short journeys on the 28 between Stourbridge and Merry Hill are just the 28 when theoretically they should be 28E.
Can honestly say I have never seen a 4HE only a 4H Halesowen on truncated journeys on NXWM or an X8E but we used to have a 140E and also still see both 9E or 9 Halesowen there is no consistency.
Quote from: richardjones210368 on January 15, 2020, 04:17:10 PM
Can honestly say I have never seen a 4HE only a 4H Halesowen on truncated journeys on NXWM or an X8E but we used to have a 140E and also still see both 9E or 9 Halesowen there is no consistency.
Probably because they don't want to confuse the passengers.
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Quote from: mesub on January 15, 2020, 04:30:00 PM
Probably because they don't want to confuse the passengers.
How would it confuse anyone? 4H E ?
Quote from: richardjones210368 on January 15, 2020, 05:30:38 PM
How would it confuse anyone? 4H E ?
The fact that it has two letters probably makes it look and sound confusing for some of the older bus users.
A good sized book could be written about the use of 'E' and other letters for short workings. Here are a few brief notes to provide some background.
In the 1920s Birmingham City Transport started using the letter 'A' for extensions of some journeys on services, with B and other letters following. However, this was not always applied consistently and some short workings - particularly of tram-replacement services - were sometimes given a separate route number or no number or letter at all.
From around 1949 onwards a policy emerged where short workings received letters from A to, eventually, L if required (omitting G and I). This was applied to nearly all routes, the main exceptions being the 8 and 11 (number blinds were turned to blank for shorts), and the 74/75 and 82 etc outside Birmingham only.
In 1975 WMPTE decided to simplify the Birmingham letter system so that all short workings showed 'E', including the 8 and 11. The use of 'A' and 'C' for anticlockwise and clockwise services (initially 8 and 11) and 'N' for night services (in place of an NS prefix) started at the same time. At the time no announcement was made about what the 'E' stood for, but in WMPTE South Division timetable books (which appeared from 1977 onwards) it was stated that 'E' stood for 'Exception'. Initially applied just to ex-Birmingham services, 'E' was fairly soon extended to the whole of the PTE area except Coventry, which eventually followed some years later.
Needless to say, West Midlands Travel continued the use of A, C, E and N.
Quote from: Justin Tyme on January 15, 2020, 07:43:34 PM
A good sized book could be written about the use of 'E' and other letters for short workings. Here are a few brief notes to provide some background.
In the 1920s Birmingham City Transport started using the letter 'A' for extensions of some journeys on services, with B and other letters following. However, this was not always applied consistently and some short workings - particularly of tram-replacement services - were sometimes given a separate route number or no number or letter at all.
From around 1949 onwards a policy emerged where short workings received letters from A to, eventually, L if required (omitting G and I). This was applied to nearly all routes, the main exceptions being the 8 and 11 (number blinds were turned to blank for shorts), and the 74/75 and 82 etc outside Birmingham only.
In 1975 WMPTE decided to simplify the Birmingham letter system so that all short workings showed 'E', including the 8 and 11. The use of 'A' and 'C' for anticlockwise and clockwise services (initially 8 and 11) and 'N' for night services (in place of an NS prefix) started at the same time. At the time no announcement was made about what the 'E' stood for, but in WMPTE South Division timetable books (which appeared from 1977 onwards) it was stated that 'E' stood for 'Exception'. Initially applied just to ex-Birmingham services, 'E' was fairly soon extended to the whole of the PTE area except Coventry, which eventually followed some years later.
Needless to say, West Midlands Travel continued the use of A, C, E and N.
The only letters on the blinds after the 1975 change were A C E N S W. The two not previously mentioned were S for schools and W for Works
Quote from: mesub on January 15, 2020, 07:19:01 PM
The fact that it has two letters probably makes it look and sound confusing for some of the older bus users.
When there used to be a 31A in Acocks Green a few years ago, it did look 'odd' when there was a 31AE that used to terminate in Acocks Green village.
Never used to bother me at all, just looked 'odd' thats all.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 15, 2020, 04:07:09 PM
@Tony It's worth having if it is used the same away across the board.
For example the short journeys on the 15 between Merry Hill and Wallheath are 15E, the short journeys on the 28 between Stourbridge and Merry Hill are just the 28 when theoretically they should be 28E.
the pn 28 is registered to run merry hill to Stourbridge and timetabled no E is needed on that route
Quote from: Stu on January 15, 2020, 08:33:50 PM
When there used to be a 31A in Acocks Green a few years ago, it did look 'odd' when there was a 31AE that used to terminate in Acocks Green village.
Never used to bother me at all, just looked 'odd' thats all.
And in the minibus era, garage workings on service Y (Hall Green - Yardley - Solihull) terminating at Acocks Green could show YE. No doubt there were others.
The S3E was always good one
Quote from: mesub on January 15, 2020, 07:19:01 PM
The fact that it has two letters probably makes it look and sound confusing for some of the older bus users.
Older bus users would be on the Diamond Bus 4H anyway so where is the problem the Diamond Bus 4H is always rammed with The Living Dead and not Eggs lot!
I had a Frankley Holly Hill turn on the 49 yesterday morning, but unfortunately it's not available on the destination display, so had to show 49E Rubery instead.
☓21 - University & ☓20 - Northfield.
Quote from: MasterPlan on January 20, 2020, 05:33:27 PM
☓21 - University & ☓20 - Northfield.
Normal service resumes haha. Friday I caught an x22 at 6pm and it was actually early arriving at uni station, much to my amazement
47E - Turves Green
45 - West Heath
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 20, 2020, 06:56:34 PM
Normal service resumes haha. Friday I caught an x22 at 6pm and it was actually early arriving at uni station, much to my amazement
Yep as shambolic as ever.
4913 - X22 Bartley Green - On Priory Queensway at 08:50.
6859 - 23E to Woodgate. It's gone past the wood lane terminus with passengers though.
Saw a Gemini on an 94E to Castle Bromwich this evening.
Quote from: 2206 on February 05, 2020, 07:11:44 PM
Saw a Gemini on an 94E to Castle Bromwich this evening.
Due to temporary lights opposite the jobcentre/Highfield Road outbound on the Washwood Heath Road, got caught in them myself on my way home about 18:35
@2206
6121 - 11E Erdington.
Seen at Ward End on the 11A at around 13:00.
Not a destination I see very often these days. Most likely due to heavy congestion on Station Road, Stechford.
87E - Ladywood - 6973, just at City Hospital now.
3305 - 126E - Five Ways
1876 - 8E to Hockley
1793- 17E to Yardley.
Seen a couple of 60Es as well. Anyone know what's going on?
Quote from: Busboy105 on June 16, 2020, 05:50:22 PM
1793- 17E to Yardley.
Seen a couple of 60Es as well. Anyone know what's going on?
Are they the shorts to relieve capacity issues?
Quote from: Busboy105 on June 16, 2020, 05:50:22 PM
1793- 17E to Yardley.
Seen a couple of 60Es as well. Anyone know what's going on?
Buses running to their running boards?
Quote from: Busboy105 on June 16, 2020, 05:50:22 PM
1793- 17E to Yardley.
Seen a couple of 60Es as well. Anyone know what's going on?
The 60 timetable is every 7-8 minutes to The Swan and every 15 minutes to Cranes Park
The 51 is running every 5/10 minutes to Scott Arms and every 15 minutes to Walsall (every 5 mins City-Perry Barr with 33)
The 55 is running every 5/10 minutes to Buckland End and every 15 minutes to Chelmsley (every 5 mins City-Ward End with 94)
There maybe others
Quote from: Steve3229vp on June 16, 2020, 06:12:08 PM
The 60 timetable is every 7-8 minutes to The Swan and every 15 minutes to Cranes Park
The 51 is running every 5/10 minutes to Scott Arms and every 15 minutes to Walsall (every 5 mins City-Perry Barr with 33)
The 55 is running every 5/10 minutes to Buckland End and every 15 minutes to Chelmsley (every 5 mins City-Ward End with 94)
There maybe others
14 as well, with shorts to Stechford. Every 5/10 minutes to Stechford. Every 15 minutes to Chelmsley. The shorts terminate at Stechford Retail Park.
The 16 has alternate buses running as 16E as far as hamstead village
Quote from: Lukeee on June 16, 2020, 09:18:46 PM
The 16 has alternate buses running as 16E as far as hamstead village
Why? The actual terminus is only up the road.
Quote from: Busboy105 on June 16, 2020, 09:42:35 PM
Why? The actual terminus is only up the road.
Because it would save one bus, it's not difficult !
Quote from: Busboy105 on June 16, 2020, 09:42:35 PM
Why? The actual terminus is only up the road.
As already mentioned it saves 1 bus, also you don't tend to get many passengers past hamstead village usually
Quote from: Lukeee on June 16, 2020, 11:00:25 PM
As already mentioned it saves 1 bus, also you don't tend to get many passengers past hamstead village usually
There's also the turning circle, so the bus can be turned safely.
Quote from: Pat on June 16, 2020, 11:09:05 PM
There's also the turning circle, so the bus can be turned safely.
The Green Lane turnaround is just as safe, the junction is wide enough for vehicles to do a whole turn.
1820 at Ward End earlier displaying "55 Saltley via Ward End". So seemingly on a untimetabled short working to Saltley.
1817 on a 55E to Shard End at Fox & Goose earlier.
4895 followed by 4613(?) both on 14Es to Stetchford yesterday, spotted at Millenium Point around 6
Quote from: Sh4318 on July 31, 2020, 09:01:06 AM
4895 followed by 4613(?) both on 14Es to Stetchford yesterday, spotted at Millenium Point around 6
They are timetabled
Quote from: Tony on July 31, 2020, 09:27:29 AM
They are timetabled
I knew that ::). I thought the 14E shorts stopped when the new timetable started
6995(?) - 16E to Hamstead Village
Quote from: mesub on August 03, 2020, 06:33:51 PM
6995(?) - 16E to Hamstead Village
Every other 16 is a short to hamstead village at the moment
5502 - 61E Northfield
4959 - 48A to Warley (from West Bromwich), just saw it a minute ago
4495 - 94E Ward End. Left City Centre at 15:15.
Was displaying "94C", leaving City Centre, which is a withdrawn school service. So presumably 4495 need 94C removing from its display and 94E adding if its not on there.
Also 4485 picking up passengers from the bus in front at Ward End, as the bus infront had terminated short there. The person on the radio said the bus in front of 4485 was running 41 1/2 minutes late. 4485 was running 15 minutes late as well.
4 Gemini arrived in the City Centre together at about 16:20, one of which was 4485.
And I also heard the inspector on the Priory Queensway telling 7522 to terminate short at Saltley on the 55, while I was waiting for the bus.
The late running is due to the heavy congestion on Jennnens Road again. As again there was loads of buses at a standstill along the whole length of Jennens Road next to the empty bike lane.
My mate was telling me that last night (5pm) it was taking "over an hour" for buses to turn around on The Priory Queensway and, instead of catching an X12/94 back to Smith's Wood, he ended up walking down to Moor Street Queensway and catching an X1 to the airport and then an X12 to Chelmsley where he then walked home.
Is this cycle lane the cause of all these traffic problems?
Earlier in the week, I did see 4 94s and a 55 pass me on the small stretch of Moorend Avenue that passes Meriden Park. They must've got stuck somewhere.
Quote from: ellspurs on October 10, 2020, 07:06:09 PM
My mate was telling me that last night (5pm) it was taking "over an hour" for buses to turn around on The Priory Queensway and, instead of catching an X12/94 back to Smith's Wood, he ended up walking down to Moor Street Queensway and catching an X1 to the airport and then an X12 to Chelmsley where he then walked home.
Is this cycle lane the cause of all these traffic problems?
Earlier in the week, I did see 4 94s and a 55 pass me on the small stretch of Moorend Avenue that passes Meriden Park. They must've got stuck somewhere.
The bike lane wasn't the cause of the problems last night. But it wouldn't have helped though. I believe it was the amount of traffic trying to use Park Street and Moor Street clogged everything up. Then people started using Dale End clogging up Old Square and Priory Queensway. Thats what I heard today anyway. Park Street really needs to be made bus only as its very dangerous as it is and get cars to uae the ring road instead of Moor Street as it will only get worse with people starting Christmas shopping soon
It was a fault with the timing of the traffic lights which has now been fixed
Quote from: John on October 10, 2020, 08:40:55 PM
The bike lane wasn't the cause of the problems last night. But it wouldn't have helped though. I believe it was the amount of traffic trying to use Park Street and Moor Street clogged everything up. Then people started using Dale End clogging up Old Square and Priory Queensway. Thats what I heard today anyway. Park Street really needs to be made bus only as its very dangerous as it is and get cars to uae the ring road instead of Moor Street as it will only get worse with people starting Christmas shopping soon
A bus gate will installed on MSQ before the start of CAZ.
Quote from: aSingh on October 11, 2020, 12:32:13 PM
A bus gate will installed on MSQ before the start of CAZ.
When they put that bus gate in, will that mean all traffic to Moor Street car park will need to enter via Allison Street, or are they reprofiling the road to allow right turns off Park Street into the car park?
Quote from: ellspurs on October 11, 2020, 01:15:19 PM
When they put that bus gate in, will that mean all traffic to Moor Street car park will need to enter via Allison Street, or are they reprofiling the road to allow right turns off Park Street into the car park?
The big mistake was putting a public car park in the Bull Ring when it was rebuilt a few years ago, a missed opportunity to push for more use of public transport in the City Centre
Quote from: ellspurs on October 11, 2020, 01:15:19 PM
When they put that bus gate in, will that mean all traffic to Moor Street car park will need to enter via Allison Street, or are they reprofiling the road to allow right turns off Park Street into the car park?
A U turn by Moor Street Station.
https://www.birminghambeheard.org.uk/economy/msqbusgate_tro/supporting_documents/G_CA03129_S1_040%20rev%20TRO%20Overview%20Proposal%20Plan.pdf
Quote from: Steve3229vp on October 11, 2020, 01:40:39 PM
The big mistake was putting a public car park in the Bull Ring when it was rebuilt a few years ago, a missed opportunity to push for more use of public transport in the City Centre
Could something like that still be done? Have some of the Car Parks in the City Centre closed/cut down in size and the car park areas repurposed. And have routes that stop furthest away from the BullRing such as the 9, X8, etc stop a bit closer to it as that would probably push more people to use the bus as well I think.
Could also do the same in other areas such as Solihull, etc.
4803 - 94E Ward End.
Presumably recovering from earlier delays in the City Centre when it came to a standstill.
As saw 5 94's running not far between each other going the other way towards City Centre while on 4805. Then 4 55's together and a 94 and another 55 not far behind.
Saw 4812 on a 94E to Ward End at about 14:50 by the Fire Station/Park.
25E Oxley PART ROUTE just spotted in Willenhall.
45xx Trident I think.
1936 - 89E to Summerfield Park
2019 - 15E Wombourne PART ROUTE
1924 - 27E - King's Heath
4900 - 47E - Turves Green
Can't see a Diamond thread for this sort of thing, but also a 002 to Manor Lane this morning (wherever that is). Very rare to see a short working on the 002.
Quote from: MasterPlan on September 23, 2021, 08:08:11 AM
4900 - 47E - Turves Green
Can't see a Diamond thread for this sort of thing, but also a 002 to Manor Lane this morning (wherever that is). Very rare to see a short working on the 002.
Where would this terminate if edenhurst etc isn't served by it ?
Quote from: monkeyjoe on September 23, 2021, 07:37:06 PM
Where would this terminate if edenhurst etc isn't served by it ?
Turves Green is actually a road - the one that runs from Staple Lodge Road down to Longbridge Lane. There are a few 47 stops along that stretch.
Quote from: MasterPlan on September 23, 2021, 08:08:11 AM
4900 - 47E - Turves Green
Can't see a Diamond thread for this sort of thing, but also a 002 to Manor Lane this morning (wherever that is). Very rare to see a short working on the 002.
The pings on bustimes suggests that 4900 either ran the full route, or terminated somewhere on Turves Green and then ran empty to its normal terminus. Driver may have put the code in wrong?
This afternoon 4430 - 15E Wombourne
4929 - 47E - Cannon Hill
6761 - 11E to the 'Scotlands'
1850- 4H halesowen
Quote from: BusMan Greg on October 01, 2021, 09:40:14 PM
6761 - 11E to the 'Scotlands'
I saw a WN B7 with exactly the same on the blinds at around 21.00hrs last night pass the McDonalds at Fallings Park. First time I've ever seen it!
Quote from: Wumpty on October 02, 2021, 06:07:23 AM
I saw a WN B7 with exactly the same on the blinds at around 21.00hrs last night pass the McDonalds at Fallings Park. First time I've ever seen it!
It's because of the little darling who live past that point on the route thinking buses are a target for pot shots
Quote from: the trainbasher on October 02, 2021, 07:14:13 AM
It's because of the little darling who live past that point on the route thinking buses are a target for pot shots
Would I be correct in thinking it's not as easy to divert Wolves 11, as it is to divert Walsall 29, as that route got affected by it's own little darlings in the Coalpool area, but NX simply diverted it up Bloxwich Road, past the depot, turn at Harden Road up to Walker Road, then normal route, missing a good 90% of the route, but still providing a Blakenall service, if not a Coalpool service.
Quote from: Westy on October 02, 2021, 02:14:50 PM
Would I be correct in thinking it's not as easy to divert Wolves 11, as it is to divert Walsall 29, as that route got affected by it's own little darlings in the Coalpool area, but NX simply diverted it up Bloxwich Road, past the depot, turn at Harden Road up to Walker Road, then normal route, missing a good 90% of the route, but still providing a Blakenall service, if not a Coalpool service.
They could run the WN11 up to The Scotlands Island, along the A460 to bypass the actual estate and turn left onto Underhill Lane and left to head back to the terminus. Not ideal for the passengers that need the service on The Scotlands estate, but saves a fortune on windows.
6746 just left Birmingham on a 936E to Aldridge.
Quote from: Wumpty on October 04, 2021, 09:58:29 AM
They could run the WN11 up to The Scotlands Island, along the A460 to bypass the actual estate and turn left onto Underhill Lane and left to head back to the terminus. Not ideal for the passengers that need the service on The Scotlands estate, but saves a fortune on windows.
Well if they have to, they have to.
Is there much feedback from Underhill residents over this?
6918 - X10 - Pensnett Estate
Quote from: MasterPlan on October 07, 2021, 04:50:00 PM
6918 - X10 - Pensnett Estate
that is where the service finishes and goes straight back to garage its timetabled to do that
Quote from: Westy on October 05, 2021, 09:54:25 PM
Well if they have to, they have to.
Is there much feedback from Underhill residents over this?
Having spoken to The Scotlands Community Association, they recognise the anti-social behaviour issues and cite a lack of police patrols for the increase in vandalism. No mention of dealing with the root cause of the youths themselves!
Quote from: karl724223 on October 07, 2021, 09:50:42 PM
that is where the service finishes and goes straight back to garage its timetabled to do that
Fair enough, I'd just never seen that one before and I'm not familiar with the X10 timetable.
Quote from: Wumpty on October 08, 2021, 07:48:02 AM
Having spoken to The Scotlands Community Association, they recognise the anti-social behaviour issues and cite a lack of police patrols for the increase in vandalism. No mention of dealing with the root cause of the youths themselves!
To be fair, we'd all know what we want to do to the little buggers, but unfortunately we'd probably get arrested ourselves!
811 just did a short working from Dudley to Tipton Station on the 42.
4977 - 74E Dudley Port
47xx - 5E Kingstanding
Unknown Gemini - 5E New Oscott
All seen within about five minutes of each other at West Brom bus station this afternoon
4545 - 76E - Yardley Wood (earlier on today)
4688 - 45E Yew Tree
Unknown - 11E Villa Park
Quote from: Raedwald on November 13, 2021, 11:12:07 PM
4688 - 45E Yew Tree
Unknown - 11E Villa Park
The last WB 45 is timetabled to finish at Yew Tree and run back to garage dead. Which will probably be the same for the 11 you've said.
Quote from: 4679 on November 14, 2021, 09:14:42 AM
The last WB 45 is timetabled to finish at Yew Tree and run back to garage dead. Which will probably be the same for the 11 you've said.
Lots of AG 11's are adjusted to terminate at Witton/Villa Park probably due to late running and also traffic problems in the Perry Barr area.
None are timetabled to terminate there.
Apologies for the late post...............
X10 "Five Ways" passing PN one afternoon last week around 16.00hrs. Is there a short working timetabled?
4875 - 95E too Shard End
UID platinum - X10 to Five ways.
6774 - 16E Kingswinford at about 1420 this afternoon
4806 - 95E - Buckland End
Unknown Eclipse - 11E Princes End
Quote from: Raedwald on November 25, 2021, 06:42:56 PM
Unknown Eclipse - 11E Princes End
Not surprised - traffic was a nightmare leaving Dudley towards Tipton when I did it just over an hour ago.
4952 was on the 89E (Birmingham bound) to Cape Hill, spotted on Stoney Lane about an hour ago
UID Trident seen in Wednesbury today just before 6pm, 79E to Carters Green PART ROUTE
6861 - 23E New street station
Quote from: mesub on December 02, 2021, 03:31:42 PM
6861 - 23E New street station
Isn't New Street Station the terminus...?
Quote from: MasterPlan on December 02, 2021, 04:43:42 PM
Isn't New Street Station the terminus...?
.
It is indeed but some people continue along the city loop, getting off at other stops. Guess it's informing people that it's going no further than the station.
4558 - 79E Bilston
6794 - X8 Five ways earlier today.
4724 - 35 Kings Heath. By Moor Street Station earlier.
Two short workings this afternoon that I personally haven't seen for a while, 14E Tile Cross and 95E Shard End
1864 - 28E Ward End.
815 - 43E Princes End
6989 - 5E Kingstanding
4719 - 76E Yardley Wood
4436 - 15E Kingswinford
6841 X1 Meriden
1902 - 33E Perry Barr
Have to love the 11A/C service. 4527 running about 15 minutes late, driver didn't seem in any real rush. At bearwood he gets out and has a fag for a few minutes then gets going again. Rings control and they say yeah just go villa park instead. Sign me up to this role
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 29, 2022, 09:02:26 PM
Have to love the 11A/C service. 4527 running about 15 minutes late, driver didn't seem in any real rush. At bearwood he gets out and has a fag for a few minutes then gets going again. Rings control and they say yeah just go villa park instead. Sign me up to this role
Yeh right, you probably wouldn't last a day judging by your comments
95E - Hurst Lane
A short working I've personally never seen before this afternoon. 94E Timberley Lane.
6879 - 23E New Street station.
4913 - 94E Timberley Lane. 15.37 departure from City.
Quote from: 2206 on April 05, 2022, 05:37:38 PM4913 - 94E Timberley Lane. 15.37 departure from City.
Must have been a couple this afternoon then. The one I saw was around 16:00 with a 94E to Bacons End leaving a minute or so before it.
Quote from: Gareth on April 05, 2022, 07:45:37 PMMust have been a couple this afternoon then. The one I saw was around 16:00 with a 94E to Bacons End leaving a minute or so before it.
Could be the same one bus times says 15:37 left at 16:02. The next one was a 95E to Hurst Lane.
Normally when they do this they go out as a 94E to Timberley Lane, then up the road to Hurst Lane and come back as a 95. And vice versa.
2079 - 15E Kingswinford
2225 - 4E Acocks Green Village
4598 - 59E Heath Town
6868 - 23E New Street Station.
Earlier this afternoon, noticed a Gemini displaying 95E Kingshurst. Got me thinking I can't remember the last time I saw just Kingshurst displayed on the front. Maybe back in 26 Saverbus days.
Or did the 59 display Kingshurst? I don't recall ever seeing that incarnation of the 59.
Quote from: Gareth on June 07, 2022, 04:36:57 PMEarlier this afternoon, noticed a Gemini displaying 95E Kingshurst. Got me thinking I can't remember the last time I saw just Kingshurst displayed on the front. Maybe back in 26 Saverbus days.
Or did the 59 display Kingshurst? I don't recall ever seeing that incarnation of the 59.
See photo dated 11th July 2013
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4189.html
Wasn't there also a 56 service which ran Birmingham to Kingshurst?
Quote from: CL on June 07, 2022, 05:05:20 PMSee photo dated 11th July 2013
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4189.html
Wasn't there also a 56 service which ran Birmingham to Kingshurst?
Evening and Sunday yes, which interworked with the 70/90.
The 58 currently displays Kingshurst also. And before the 59 there was the 54 also. The AG 99 had Shard End as the destination.
I saw a 94E to Clock Garage earlier as well.
Quote from: 2206 on June 07, 2022, 05:40:48 PMEvening and Sunday yes, which interworked with the 70/90.
The 58 currently displays Kingshurst also. And before the 59 there was the 54 also. The AG 99 had Shard End as the destination.
I saw a 94E to Clock Garage earlier as well.
Ah, yes. Completely forgot about the 54 and 56.
529E - Crown Wharf has been spotted by a 'friend ' in Wolverhampton today!
7E Witton - when I was on 4817 today.
While travelling home from Solihull this afternoon, I saw a 76E to Blossomfield going in the opposite direction in Shirley, not a short working I've ever seen before!
Quote from: Westy on June 10, 2022, 04:52:25 PM529E - Crown Wharf has been spotted by a 'friend ' in Wolverhampton today!
Where is Crown Wharf?
Quote from: fleetline6477 on June 11, 2022, 08:54:33 PMWhere is Crown Wharf?
The retail park in Walsall, one stop from Walsall Bus Station outbound.
Funny place to terminate though.
QuoteFunny place to terminate though.
Not really, if two 529s are running together looping Townsend Square missing the bus station and the time taken loading out would save 7 minutes to pu the proper gap back in service
Quote from: Tony on June 11, 2022, 09:13:23 PMNot really, if two 529s are running together looping Townsend Square missing the bus station and the time taken loading out would save 7 minutes to pu the proper gap back in service
Fair enough.
6859 - 23E New Street Station
Saw an X2 in Brum about 1645 with Sheldon Wheatsheaf on the front, not seen that before.
1934 - 3E Oldbury
UID Bus - 27E Yardley Wood
1928 - 76E Haust Lane (Yardley Wood)
5512 - 61E Tessall Lane (Raven Hays Rd)
7515 - 63E Rubery - is this the one used for the night bus?
Quote from: mesub on July 13, 2022, 01:24:29 PM5512 - 61E Tessall Lane (Raven Hays Rd)
7515 - 63E Rubery - is this the one used for the night bus?
I haven't seen it for a while but I think the night 63E said Rubery Flyover, Cock Hill Lane or something like that.
5513 - 63E New Street Station
7518 - X21 Univeristy.
Might be duplicate extra?
6942/6993 on 61E to Northfield
14E - Tile Cross 6799
Noticed a 63E followed by a 61E both running to Pebble Mill this afternoon.
However I'm not sure if they're timetabled, extras or just service adjustment.
QuoteNoticed a 63E followed by a 61E both running to Pebble Mill this afternoon.
However I'm not sure if they're timetabled, extras or just service adjustment.
One of the latter two. All 61's and 63's (save for the overnight 63 services) are timetabled to run the full route.
They are running to help out with Commonwealth at Edgebaston 61E/63E are run by West Bromwich
Quote from: cris 99 on August 01, 2022, 07:01:30 AMThey are running to help out with Commonwealth at Edgebaston 61E/63E are run by West Bromwich
Ah, yes of course that makes sense with Edbaston. However both I saw were BC buses.
i Expect BC are running extras aswell as it was extremely Busy Fri
Quote from: cris 99 on August 01, 2022, 12:50:01 PMi Expect BC are running extras aswell as it was extremely Busy Fri
They did on Saturday. 7518 was doing duplicate extras on the 61 to Bournbrook Road on Saturday from the tracking. Before it went onto do the X21's to University. Probably rail strikes and commonwealth games was the reason for those. I did see it parked on Park Street early that morning as well.
2094 - 4E to Rakegate
7520 - 47E Turves Green
4806 - 14E Tile Cross.
6943 - 3E Sparkbrook
Usual congestion in Digbeth, and some temporary 4-way controlled lights at the junction of Yardley Wood Road and Trittiford Road giving the 2 and 3 some grief this evening.
Quote from: mesub on August 18, 2022, 05:10:52 PM4806 - 14E Tile Cross.
7511 - 14E Saltley Gate as well.
Shorts on 14 to Tile Cross/Lea Village seem to have been common over the last few days.
828 - 2E Dudley
I mentioned in 'oddities' but 4938 is currently on a 55E to Shard End
6943 was doing an 18E earlier
Yesterday: 4858 - 14E Tile Cross (from memory)
Today: 7504 and 4827 following each other. 14E to Tile Cross and Stechford respectively.
4606 - 3E Wake Green
6876 - 23E New Street Station
4946 - 61E to Pebble Mill
5514 - 61E Selly Oak
4928 94E Timberley Lane
4945 95E Hurst Lane
6820 14E Tile Cross
4590 - 18E Bangham Pit
6869 - 23E Five Ways.
6759 - 4E Pendeford
6869 - 23E New Street Station
4590 - 76E Haunch Lane
5503 - 45E West Heath
This morning, 1927 was spotted doing a 2E to "Yardley Wood, Bus Garage"
X10 6935 broad st tonight
6885 - X21 Woodcock Hill
6882 - X21 University
4580 - 18E Bangham Pit spotted this morning
Another 2E to "Yardley Wood, Bus Garage" spotted this morning, this time it was 1933.
6849 - X12 to Airport & NEC (from Birmingham) as it was running 80 minutes late
6884 - X22 California
Quote from: mesub on November 10, 2022, 06:47:24 PM6884 - X22 California
Saw a short working X22 to Jiggins Lane yesterday afternoon. Never seen one of those before, and it's anyone's guess as to which end of Jiggins Lane it finishes at.
6747 on 17:36 937 to Boney Hay running a 937E to Brownhills Parade.
2002 - 4E to Dunstall
4908, 4919, 7517 - 63E Northfield
61E Pebble Mill seen in Selly Oak this evening.
5511 - 45E Kings Norton (Green)
Spotted today:
95E Kingshurst. I personally haven't seen one of these for a while, most tend to do a short working to Hurst Lane.
14E Saltley Gate.
Just saw 4967 on an 89E to Spring Hill Tesco. Following 2237 on a full 89, in Smethwick, both heading towards Birmingham
Perhaps the Manor Road/Londonderry Lane roadworks are really having a knock on effect
6884 - X22 California. After an hour of nothing showing up, either route.
Just seen these in town
6818 65E to Short Heath
6887 on a X22 to Kitwell
Not long spotted a 3E to Yardley Wood, School Road - seemed a bit pointless as there's only a couple more stops before the Slade Lane terminus.
6878 - 23E New Street Station
last night the X12 (2111 from Solihull Station) had X12 to Bromford Estates, not sure if it terminated there but that's the first time I've seen that dest.
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/873515455514574898/1051978981513109514/PXL_20221212_214317146.jpg)
Saw 7533 at Five Ways working a 23E to New St Station around 7:45 this evening
Most of south west Birmingham seems to be gridlocked this afternoon, so there are a few short workings around at the moment including a 24E to Court Oak (not seen that one in years) and an X22 to Bartley Green (presumably the Romsley Road 18 terminus).
4941 - 45E West Heath
1826 was on 28E to Erdington earlier
5518 - 47E Turves Green
E001 - 6E Marshall Lake Road
4970 - 80E Smallbrook Queensway
63E Holloway Circus
4937 on a 94E to Saltley Gate from city centre. A very short working and rarely seen these days.
Yesterday saw an 87E around 10.30am heading from Dudley to Oldbury
Saw an X8 with Broad Street on the front on Friday Evening. Terminated at Centenary Square, not seen buses terminate there before
6859 did a 24E to Five Ways earlier in the day.
Quote from: mesub on January 27, 2023, 09:42:33 PM6859 did a 24E to Give Ways earlier in the day.
Who did it give way to? :grin:
QuoteWho did it give way to? :grin:
That's a very good question!!!
4605 - 76E Yardley Wood (This is untimetabled)
1921 - QE Hospital
6889 & 6885 - X21 Woodcock Hill
6887 - X22 California, Barnes Hill
865 - 19E Harborne
7503 - 16E Handsworth Wood.
1944 3E old hill
X10 - five ways followed by another x10
One from Tuesday 4902 on a 94E to Saltley Gate around 8:50 with 4911 doing a full journey into town. Caught it on Coleshill Road by the Church. I have caught a bus at this time before and both buses usually do a full trip though playing cat and mouse all the way to Saltley Gate where I normally get off
Yesterday evening, saw a 5E (6708) to 'Sarehole Mill'.
I guess that as that's where drivers change over, there was no relief driver available, hence running dead back to garage from there.
(BusTimes also shows it was running about 20mins late, which probably didn't help matters)
6702 - 5E sarehole mill left Solihull ontime so can only presume no driver to take over
4814 - 7E Villa Park
I saw a 94E - Bacons End coming up Auckland Drive late yesterday morning.
On Thursday I caught 4875 originally on a full trip to Brum on the 94 on Coleshill Road by the Church. Before it left the bus stop it became a 94E to Saltley Gate this was on the 8:50am trip
4991 and 5426 both following each other on a short trip 4 Wolverhampton
6947 - X21 New Street Station
There was also an 82E or 87E displaying Harding Stadium or something like that beginning with H, not seen that before.
Quote6947 - X21 New Street Station
There was also an 82E or 87E displaying Harding Stadium or something like that beginning with H, not seen that before.
It would be Hadley Stadium, should be 82E.
Quote from: mesub on March 11, 2023, 07:47:52 PMIt would be Hadley Stadium, should be 82E.
That's the one!
6876 - X21 Woodgate. I suspect the driver just set the destination display wrong though.
6825 - 23E Colmore Row.
E015 6E- Shirley Tesco ,Sandy Hill Road
6977 82E - Spring Hill.
7538 - 76E Chinn Brook Road - First time I've seen that
4600 - 76E Weoley Castle
4987 - 16E Stourbridge to Wall Heath (departed 1423, 15 minutes late)
Can't be certain bur I could've sworn I just saw an X22 to Kitwell. A little throwback there if I wasn't mistaken.
Quote from: MasterPlan on May 18, 2023, 11:16:30 AMCan't be certain bur I could've sworn I just saw an X22 to Kitwell. A little throwback there if I wasn't mistaken.
According to bustimes.org this was the 1050 from City, bus 6883.
Quote from: Rachvince53 on May 18, 2023, 01:08:50 PMAccording to bustimes.org this was the 1050 from City, bus 6883.
Yes, although the times shown is wrong because it would've been about 11:15 when I would've saw it.
Not sure what benefit you'd get from stopping only 4 stops short of the terminus though.
1928 - 76E - Robin Hood
63E to Northfield seen in Longbridge this afternoon.
BC 4880 on 63E to Selly Oak
A 94E to Timberley Lane in City Centre around 20 to 5.
7539 - 4E Olton (Railway station)
4693 - 80E to Five Ways.
4617 on 18E to Bangham Pit Road
4331-41E to New Invention just before 4pm today.
6861, 71 - 23E Five Ways
Caught 4498 on the 11A (short terminating at Erdington). All East 11 services were running Acocks Green to Erdington via Fox and Goose only. Delays at A47 Bromford island/temporary lights at Swan Island delaying the service.
6876 - 23E New Street Station
6865 currently on a 24E to Quinton Tesco
6882 - 23E New Street Station
4915, 6879 - 24E New Street Station
4743 - 80E Five Ways.
6981 87E Spring HIll from Birmingham with 6977 87E Oldbury right behind
4742 is on a 13E to Snow Hill Queensway, just going under Five Ways Underpass now
6970 - 87E Castle Gate.
Edit: Changed to Dudley so must have been an error.
4740 - 80E to Five Ways.
755 - 4E Pendeford
864 - 19E Halesowen
4913 - X22 Bartley Green
1794 spotted in Wake Green earlier this evening doing a 1E to "Edgbaston, Cricket Ground"
6863 - 23E Sommerfield Estate
Quote from: mesub on September 19, 2023, 05:14:56 PM6863 - 23E Sommerfield Estate
That's a new one, there isn't even such a place. I'm sure they used to show Woodgate Valley, Sommerfield Road or something similar.
Saw plenty of 61E and 63Es in town earlier. Guessing more Selly Oak fun.
Quote from: Mike K on September 19, 2023, 05:31:57 PMThat's a new one, there isn't even such a place. I'm sure they used to show Woodgate Valley, Sommerfield Road or something similar.
It's been around for a little while now. I do remember a previous iteration being 23E (South Woodgate, Summerfield Road).
I think somebody posted a 23E (South Woodgate, Tibbats Close) but this predates when I first joined the forum (or had an interest in buses to be honest!)
6880 - X22 California, Barnes Hill.
4871 - 45E West Heath
4519 (BU53 UMW)- I'm currently on the 5E to New Oscott
Quite a few this afternoon.
A 45E to West Heath
A 50E to Maypole
A 6E to Marshall Lake Road
A 35E to Pool Farm and a 35E to Parsons Hill
Didn't note fleet numbers unfortunately
John
6957 - 80E to Five Ways.
Seen a CV 17A to Upper Stoke just now.
824 - 89E to Spring Hill.
6975 - 82E to City Hospital.
759 has just gone past me on Queens Road with a short 54E to Brandhall, from West Bromwich
6987 - 87E Castle Gate wherever that is lol
Quote6987 - 87E Castle Gate wherever that is lol
The island where the Zoo end of the Duncan Edwards Way in Dudley is (its the next junction from Burnt Tree
Island Interchange on the 74/87/126).
Quite a convenient turn around point without having to go into Dudley to turn when being amended to run as a short.
I think previously Burnt Tree Island would have been used as a short turn, before they turned into lights.
Quote from: the trainbasher on October 03, 2023, 10:03:29 PMThe island where the Zoo end of the Duncan Edwards Way in Dudley is (its the next junction from Burnt Tree Island Interchange on the 74/87/126).
Quite a convenient turn around point without having to go into Dudley to turn when being amended to run as a short.
I think previously Burnt Tree Island would have been used as a short turn, before they turned into lights.
Would I be correct in thinking the Castle Gate 'pick up point' is by the Dudley KFC?
QuoteWould I be correct in thinking the Castle Gate 'pick up point' is by the Dudley KFC?
I would assume so for any buses starting there, yes.
6959 - 89E to Spring Hill.
6952 was on a 5E to Sarehole Mill from Birmingham around 4:30/5 today
2237 has just passed me on the Dudley Road (Cape Hill) with an 80E to Five Ways, towards Birmingham
4905 on 61E to New Street Station.
4944 on 63E to New Street Station
One from last week (11/10)
4651 was on an 11E(C) to Summerfield Park, around 5pm on the City Road
Plenty of 4E and 6E to Bull Ring Markets this evening.
Looks like something happened in city centre as Moor Street Queensway reported to be heavily congested, clearing now.
https://twitter.com/nxwestmidlands/status/1713963546415906978
The photo shows the initial cause, but the delays are caused by idiot Uber drivers just going around in circles, Moor Street, Carrs Lane, High Street, Dale End, Albert Street, Moor Street because some of them are to thick to realise the way out is to carry on down Dale End under the bridge, buses that arrived at 10:30 this morning didn't move for 70 minutes this morning because the whole loop was full of Uber idiots, presumably the same is happening tonight. I watched several going round at 16:00 when I went to catch my train
Quote from: Tony on October 16, 2023, 06:51:49 PMThe photo shows the initial cause, but the delays are caused by idiot Uber drivers just going around in circles, Moor Street, Carrs Lane, High Street, Dale End, Albert Street, Moor Street because some of them are to thick to realise the way out is to carry on down Dale End under the bridge, buses that arrived at 10:30 this morning didn't move for 70 minutes this morning because the whole loop was full of Uber idiots, presumably the same is happening tonight. I watched several going round at 16:00 when I went to catch my train
I saw what looked like some transport officers arrive eventually this evening going over and speaking to the drivers.
Not just taxis though, some general cars. I thought Moor St was bus and taxi only?
Quote from: MasterPlan on October 16, 2023, 07:03:11 PMI saw what looked like some transport officers arrive eventually this evening going over and speaking to the drivers.
Not just taxis though, some general cars. I thought Moor St was bus and taxi only?
Cars can come along Moor Street turn right into Carrs Lane and then leave either via Dale End or Albert Street and Moor Street
1826 - 8E to Highgate.
7033 - 8E to Saltley Gate.
6987 - 87E Castle Gate.
6903 - 50E Maypole
6831 was on a 61E to Northfield in Birmingham yesterday around 5:45
4826 - 101E to Handsworth Lane
6914 - 76E to Yardley Wood
7031 - 8E to Saltley Gate.
Noted this afternoon while on a walkabout:
6E to Camp Hill Island
3E to Sparkbrook
Guessing city centre is heavily congested again?
1943 on the 5E to Kingstanding
1919 - 6E to Marshall Lake Road (from Birmingham)
4926 - 97E to Stechford (from Birmingham)
6944 - 35E to Parsons Hill (from Birmingham)
Quote from: Sh4318 on November 07, 2023, 06:14:32 PM6944 - 35E to Parsons Hill (from Birmingham)
I heard the call go over the radio while travelling home on the 3, there's been an RTC on Monyhull Hall Road, 18 and 35 both on diversion now, but looks like a few buses trapped there.
2110 pulled into Wednesbury Bus Station this eve displaying '11E Motorway Island' and underneath 'M6 Motorway Junction 9'
6895 on 50E to Maypole
6969 12E to Oldbury
23E to harborne
4479 - 89E to Cape Hill, towards Bearwood. Is it actually a short working of does it not have the Bearwood destination programmed?
Quote from: Sh4318 on November 12, 2023, 12:20:27 PM4479 - 89E to Cape Hill, towards Bearwood. Is it actually a short working of does it not have the Bearwood destination programmed?
Looking on BusTimes, it did operate through to Bearwood.
4923 - 97(E) to Stechford, *football diversion* apparently, just seen on Moor St, didn't think the blues were playing today
Interesting rear display that transitioned from showing the number in original with a clear background and inverted
2138 - 10E to Brownhills just left Walsall bus station.
Yesterday- 4511 on the 5E to New Oscott
4602 - 76E QE hospital
Was looking forward to getting on 4521 again on the 5 from Scott arms, however it turns out the bus actually terminated at Scott arms, rather than Kingstanding as BusTimes said.
Quote from: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on November 17, 2023, 08:31:20 PMWas looking forward to getting on 4521 again on the 5 from Scott arms, however it turns out the bus actually terminated at Scott arms, rather than Kingstanding as BusTimes said.
Well it was running over 20 minutes late and 4519 had been dropped in on time in front of it, so carried the passengers that were due to catch 4521
Quote from: Tony on November 17, 2023, 08:39:04 PMWell it was running over 20 minutes late and 4519 had been dropped in on time in front of it, so carried the passengers that were due to catch 4521
I did notice it was running late, just slightly disappointed though as I was looking forward to it and had to wait quite a while for the next bus which was 4485, but oh well.. that's life!
Quote from: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on November 17, 2023, 08:44:17 PMI did notice it was running late, just slightly disappointed though as I was looking forward to it and had to wait quite a while for the next bus which was 4485, but oh well.. that's life!
Well that's what happens if you let 4519 go past, no one else had to wait for a bus due to WB Inspector's actions.
Quote from: Tony on November 17, 2023, 08:57:50 PMWell that's what happens if you let 4519 go past, no one else had to wait for a bus due to WB Inspector's actions.
When did I say I let 4519 go past? I arrived at the X51 stop at Scott arms just as 4519 was leaving the 5 stop so there wasn't much I could do...
Quote from: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on November 18, 2023, 07:26:46 AMWhen did I say I let 4519 go past? I arrived at the X51 stop at Scott arms just as 4519 was leaving the 5 stop so there wasn't much I could do...
If you missed 4519 you would have missed 4517 if it was on time so you obviously weren't that intent on catching it
126E five ways. The 126 reliability is a shambles at the moment
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 18, 2023, 05:28:08 PM126E five ways. The 126 reliability is a shambles at the moment
Proof or another veg web watcher
Quote from: karl724223 on November 18, 2023, 05:47:45 PMProof or another veg web watcher
A lot of City services delayed today due to Digbeth being blocked up. There was also a protest there according to the driver of the 94 I was on.
And the effect of this meaning surrounding roads had high congestion.
Quote from: Tony on November 18, 2023, 09:25:07 AMIf you missed 4519 you would have missed 4517 if it was on time so you obviously weren't that intent on catching it
Firstly, 4517 was withdrawn a while ago 😂
Secondly, 4521 was the next bus to arrive after 4519. I was there in person, I think I know thank you.
Quote from: karl724223 on November 18, 2023, 05:47:45 PMProof or another veg web watcher
Very exceptional gentleman? 🤣
Anyway we all know you drivers don't like people following you around on the internet 😉
Quote from: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on November 18, 2023, 09:41:49 PMFirstly, 4517 was withdrawn a while ago 😂
Secondly, 4521 was the next bus to arrive after 4519. I was there in person, I think I know thank you.
Your original post says you wanted to ride on 4521.
4521 was due at the Scott Arms at 17:54
You said you arrived there as 4519 left, which was 18:05, so you weren't there waiting for 4521 because you should have missed it by 10 minutes
Quote from: Tony on November 19, 2023, 09:32:30 AMYour original post says you wanted to ride on 4521.
4521 was due at the Scott Arms at 17:54
You said you arrived there as 4519 left, which was 18:05, so you weren't there waiting for 4521 because you should have missed it by 10 minutes
Before you jump to conclusions (as I've noticed you tend to do) take a look at when 4521 arrived at Scott arms... 18:14. I even have picture proof if you really want it. Once again, I was there in person and you were not.
Also, I did not specifically say I was going out of my way to ride 4521, it was just a coincidence that the bus I wanted to ride was arriving at the same time I would be at the stop.
Quote from: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on November 19, 2023, 10:06:38 AMBefore you jump to conclusions (as I've noticed you tend to do) take a look at when 4521 arrived at Scott arms... 18:14. I even have picture proof if you really want it. Once again, I was there in person and you were not.
Also, I did not specifically say I was going out of my way to ride 4521, it was just a coincidence that the bus I wanted to ride was arriving at the same time I would be at the stop.
I know it arrived at 18:14, I said it was due at 17:54, hence why it turned at ASDA roundabout because all its passengers were already on 4519
Quote from: Tony on November 19, 2023, 10:26:45 AMI know it arrived at 18:14, I said it was due at 17:54, hence why it turned at ASDA roundabout because all its passengers were already on 4519
So what's the point you're trying to make here?
Quote from: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on November 19, 2023, 10:28:07 AMSo what's the point you're trying to make here?
You were complaining about not being able to ride on it because it terminated at The Scott Arms.
Well if it didn't terminate there you wouldn't have ridden on it any way because you would have missed it.
Quote from: Tony on November 19, 2023, 10:43:34 AMYou were complaining about not being able to ride on it because it terminated at The Scott Arms.
Well if it didn't terminate there you wouldn't have ridden on it any way because you would have missed it.
In other words, you're telling me unnecessary information that I already knew? I never said I didn't know the reason why it terminated at Scott arms, and I never actually said I was annoyed that I didn't ride on it. If you read my reply, yes I did say I was disappointed that I didn't get to go in, but you'd have seen I said it was mainly because I had to wait a while for the next bus.
6864 - 61E to Tessall Lane
2017 - 59E - Ashmore Park (Highs Road)
Seen 16.15hrs in Heath Town
2081 operating the same 3 mins behind
2144 41E to New Invention.
2235 - 80E to Five Ways.
757 - 54E to Brandhall
4913 - 63(E) to Longbridge. Seen at Priory Queensway a couple of minutes ago
210× 11E Motorway Island in Wednesbury
97E to Poolway. 7516, spotted on Moor Street
7518, 7523 - 61E Tessall Lane (Raven Hays Road).
6831 - 63E New Street Station
6856 - 63E Rubery
4904 working a 97E to stechford due to being 41 mins late
4608 was on a 3E to Sparkbrook, spotted earlier on Trittiford Road
4741, doing a 80E to five ways, due to being 25 mins late.
H1002 on the 51E to Perry Barr.
E005 working a 6E to Shirley tescos
6993 working a 87E to Spring Hill island
2238 - 80E to Five Ways.
757 - 54E to The George earlier today
2026 (6) - 4E Pendeford
858 earlier this afternoon working a 4E to oldbury.
2 74E bus routes to West Bromwich, spotted on Birmingham Road when i was in McDonald's, one or both of them were using Scania Single Decker Omnicity
Quote from: SuperSonic07 on December 20, 2023, 07:10:35 PM2 74E bus routes to West Bromwich, spotted on Birmingham Road when i was in McDonald's, one or both of them were using Scania Single Decker Omnicity
Are you sure they were 'untimetabled'?
There are numerous timetabled short workings between Birmingham and West Bromwich.
Also, NX don't have any single-deck OmniCities, theirs are OmniLinks.
Quote from: SuperSonic07 on December 20, 2023, 07:10:35 PM2 74E bus routes to West Bromwich, spotted on Birmingham Road when i was in McDonald's, one or both of them were using Scania Single Decker Omnicity
Omnilinks
Quote from: SuperSonic07 on December 20, 2023, 07:10:35 PM2 74E bus routes to West Bromwich, spotted on Birmingham Road when i was in McDonald's, one or both of them were using Scania Single Decker Omnicity
I believe every other 74 is a 74E during the day
Pretty sure the 74 is every 5 minutes between Brum and West Brom with West Brom only being every 10 minutes paired with the Dudley section being every 10 minutes to make a 5 minute frequencey
Quote from: Lukeee on December 20, 2023, 08:37:44 PMI believe every other 74 is a 74E during the day
Yes but usually the timetabled workings just say 74 West Bromwich without the E.
I'm sure there are exceptions such as buses which don't have it programmed or whatever, but yeah sometimes you might have a 74 that is timetabled to go to Dudley but cut back hence the 74E.
Quote from: MasterPlan on December 21, 2023, 01:51:28 PMYes but usually the timetabled workings just say 74 West Bromwich without the E.
I'm sure there are exceptions such as buses which don't have it programmed or whatever, but yeah sometimes you might have a 74 that is timetabled to go to Dudley but cut back hence the 74E.
The Only 74E Blinds might be Island Road in Handsworth, The Hawthorns Maybe (Football Special) or maybe M5 Island I'm sure I saw one of them a while ago. With a 74E from Birmingham maybe Great Bridge, Island Road or M5 Island
They used to always show '74E' and now occasionally you will see that displayed. Same as the 997, whoever's bright ideas it was to stop displaying the E has just made more 'why aren't you going as far as so and so?'
Even the announcements used to have the E for some routes added made a lot more easier to notice.
Quote from: Jack on December 21, 2023, 03:03:30 PMThey used to always show '74E' and now occasionally you will see that displayed. Same as the 997, whoever's bright ideas it was to stop displaying the E has just made more 'why aren't you going as far as so and so?'
Even the announcements used to have the E for some routes added made a lot more easier to notice.
Well I think in the case of the 74 it is probably written on the Timetable say 17:30 74 is To West Bromwich plus the Next Bus Info Screens and the front of the bus saying 74 West Bromwich Via Handsworth will give it away. 997 yeah confusing my dad made that mistake as the X51 was delayed the 997 he caught said 997 Walsall this was a few years ago it terminated at the Dears Leap and he had no idea where he was. The other day I saw 39E to Bilston it is Timetabled to terminate in Bilston at that time. The last 37 went past me once Not In service but it had 37E Darlaston on the blinds despite the last 37 due to terminate there. The 34's show 34E to Darlaston despite a few being timetabled there or used to be. The 79 used to have a Journey that terminated in Wednesbury from Wolverhampton so it either said 79E Wednesbury or 79 Wednesbury Part Route or 79 Wednesbury on a single line. I think it may be up to the driver or they proggame In whatever is available so in the case of the 74 74 West Bromwich is probably available outright, 997E should be on the Display programing as the full 997 goes to Walsall, I guess the 74 is like the X51 is the X51E Walsall needed or could you just change between X51 Walsall Via Great Barr or X51 Cannock Via Walsall.
4490 - 11C to Witton.
4743 on the 5E to Scott Arms (coming from Sutton)
Quote from: MasterPlan on December 21, 2023, 01:51:28 PMYes but usually the timetabled workings just say 74 West Bromwich without the E.
I'm sure there are exceptions such as buses which don't have it programmed or whatever, but yeah sometimes you might have a 74 that is timetabled to go to Dudley but cut back hence the 74E.
Driver probably selected wrong blinds, aslong as it shows where the bus is terminating it doesn't really matter whether it says 74 or 74E
1840 just now in Walsall bus station 19:04, displayed 37E to lodge farm, looked on bus times and he should be going to willenhall but he's not late.
Quote from: Wba_lad on December 21, 2023, 07:05:40 PM1840 just now in Walsall bus station 19:04, displayed 37E to lodge farm, looked on bus times and he should be going to willenhall but he's not late.
Could be a driver doing an OT peice so might have limited driving hours left
Quote from: Wba_lad on December 21, 2023, 07:05:40 PM1840 just now in Walsall bus station 19:04, displayed 37E to lodge farm, looked on bus times and he should be going to willenhall but he's not late.
Building Fire in Willenhall closed of Lower Lichfield Street 37 are terminating Stringes Lane or Lodge Farm NX Twitter suggested Stringes Lane which Is where 1884 has started from.
@Westy saw a 37E Eairler so 1840 might not be going to Lodge Farm but it isn't going to Willenhall where it terminates either
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on December 21, 2023, 07:27:47 PMBuilding Fire in Willenhall closed of Lower Lichfield Street 37 are terminating Stringes Lane or Lodge Farm NX Twitter suggested Stringes Lane which Is where 1884 has started from. @Westy saw a 37E Eairler so 1840 might not be going to Lodge Farm but it isn't going to Willenhall where it terminates either
Lodge Farm is probably the closest they could display at the time.
Isnt there an 'On Diversion' display available they can use on occasions like this, like 'Serving Main Roads Only' they had for severe weather?
Quote from: Westy on December 21, 2023, 07:46:26 PMLodge Farm is probably the closest they could display at the time.
Isnt there an 'On Diversion' display available they can use on occasions like this, like 'Serving Main Roads Only' they had for severe weather?
The 37 has never had to Divert of Stroud Aveune I think they Grit most of it's Route so it might not be programed. Although It may have On Diversion ask Driver Although I have never seen that on WA Omnilinks when Walsall Road was closed or when the Brown Lion Junction was closed. But That's what I'm thinking Lodge Farm is the nearest Terminus they can use back when the 37 ran to Ensbury Close during it's initial NX Evening and Sunday days the Evening journeys used to terminate there. Was there any passengers on the 37 when you saw it.
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on December 21, 2023, 08:35:39 PMThe 37 has never had to Divert of Stroud Aveune I think they Grit most of it's Route so it might not be programed. Although It may have On Diversion ask Driver Although I have never seen that on WA Omnilinks when Walsall Road was closed or when the Brown Lion Junction was closed. But That's what I'm thinking Lodge Farm is the nearest Terminus they can use back when the 37 ran to Ensbury Close during it's initial NX Evening and Sunday days the Evening journeys used to terminate there. Was there any passengers on the 37 when you saw it.
To be honest, I forgot to look!
2210 - 17E to Yardley, Stoney Lane. Spotted on Moor Street around 6:05 this evening
Z4001 - 6E to Marshall Lake Road.
1937 working a 40E to friar park due to being 24 mins late
1854, was ment to going to merry hill on the 4M, but pulled into West Bromwich with 4 West Bromwich on the blinds, then has gone not in service to somewhere, he was 49 mins late too.
4775 - 76E Weoley Castle
61E Tessall Lane seen in Northfield this afternoon.
Quote61E Tessall Lane seen in Northfield this afternoon.
Saw it in Brum too
4837 - 6E, Russells Hall Hospital
4586 - 49E to Maypole
Omnilink on 4E to Oldbury at 15:10 seen as I was pulling into West Bromwich on 4975 on the 74
4695 running a 5E to new osscott
4729 - 35E to Kings Heath. Saw 10 minutes ago by the Markets
1821 - 8E to Saltley Gate.
4746, just left West Bromwich bus station around 15 minutes late, is doing a 80E to five ways.
4487 - 80E to Five Ways.
4772 - 80E to Holloway Head.
4507 on the 5E to New Oscott
4485 - 80E to Five Ways.
4518 on the 5E to New Oscott
1920 - 76E to Weoley Castle earlier in the day.
Do curtailments of X21/X22 count as 'E' workings? Saw four X21/X22s bunched together and one of them was for California.
Quote from: Ronnoc on February 06, 2024, 12:46:57 PMDo curtailments of X21/X22 count as 'E' workings? Saw four X21/X22s bunched together and one of them was for California.
Yes for all X22 journeys.
For the X21 it depends on the time since some are scheduled to terminate at University Station or Weoley Castle.
Quote from: mesub on February 08, 2024, 07:31:44 PMYes for all X22 journeys.
For the X21 it depends on the time since some are scheduled to terminate at University Station or Weoley Castle.
There's only 1 of each. 8:00am and 8:20am from City. Everything else should go to Bartley Green, and only when schools are in.
Thanks for the clarification. I'm guessing that 'E' working was to space the services out a little. Those traffic lights outside of University station are causing a bit of a stir for the X21/X22. But when is the X21/X22 not in a stir?
Quote from: Ronnoc on February 09, 2024, 02:40:06 PMThanks for the clarification. I'm guessing that 'E' working was to space the services out a little. Those traffic lights outside of University station are causing a bit of a stir for the X21/X22. But when is the X21/X22 not in a stir?
Not to derail this thread off topic too much but yes, those temporary traffic lights outside the ongoing development at University Station are a nightmare. That section can be bad anyway due to the right road and traffic but that makes it worse.
I was kinda hoping a bus lane would be part of the developments but I doubt it.
EDIT: To make it fit in with this thread, 6885 - X21 Woodcock Hill.
One of 4 X21/X22 currently going passed Uni Station outbound.
Yesterday in the city centre outbound an 82E to Spring Hill (Tesco)
One from yesterday:
4749 on the 80E to Summerfield Park around 3pm yesterday by the smethwick council house
6907 on the 50E to Highgate just now on the Moseley Road
Didn't catch the number of the bus but a 4M went past me from Walsall saying Birchley Island on the front of it.
6612 - 11A(E) - Selly Oak.
Was running 41 mins late at the time I alighted.
4857 on the 101E to Grove Lane, seem on Colmore Row around 10 minutes ago
1831 - 8C Saltley Gate
Quote from: mesub on February 25, 2024, 01:41:24 PM1831 - 8C Saltley Gate
Interestingly it looks like there is some scheduled interworking between the 8A and 8C on a Sunday.
1831 - BV57 XGY – National Express West Midlands – bustimes.org (https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tnxb-1831#)
1820 - BV57 XGL – National Express West Midlands – bustimes.org (https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tnxb-pb-1820?date=2024-02-18)
And also Saltley Gate is the routes terminus officially, i'm sure at least some evening journeys finish there and run back into the garage.
Quote from: mesub on February 25, 2024, 01:41:24 PM1831 - 8C Saltley Gate
I believe that's actually timetabled.
It appears there are a number of journeys during Sunday daytimes where the 8A and 8C change direction at Saltley Gate.
5517 - X22 California, Barnes Hill.
X21/X22 feeling the brunt of yet more temporary traffic lights. This time by the Vale Village on Edgbaston Park Road. Hopefully won't be there for much longer.
Along with the ones on Vincent Drive near the Uni Station development which have been there for some time now.
6885 - X22 Woodgate
Seems to be running 22 mins late.
Quote from: mesub on February 29, 2024, 03:53:08 PM6885 - X22 Woodgate
Seems to be running 22 mins late.
No surprise. X21s and X22s running in 2s and 3s at the minute.
1789 on the 27E to Yardley Wood, spotted on New Street in Frankley, so the whole route?
Quote from: TGZac on February 29, 2024, 09:44:45 PM1789 on the 27E to Yardley Wood, spotted on New Street in Frankley, so the whole route?
Probably wrong destination selected, the 27 only goes to Yardley Wood bus garage now.
4567 - 35E Parsons Hill
4539 - 18E Bangham Pit
6873 - 24E Four Dwellings.
1942 was on the 80E to Holloway Head.
4972 working a 74E to hockley
4515 - 48A (E) Warley 'The George'
Quote from: frostjay974 on March 08, 2024, 04:13:10 PM4515 - 48A (E) Warley 'The George'
Could be due to inconsiderate parking on Anderson Road
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on March 08, 2024, 05:08:40 PMCould be due to inconsiderate parking on Anderson Road
Yeah there were two 82 buses that were stuck there on Wednesday
4511 on the 5E to New Oscott
4650 is on the 11C to Witton.
4740 was on the 80E to Five Ways.
Fair few 1Es to bishop Milner yesterday afternoon
6972 is on the 80E to Five Ways.
6956 working a 80E to five ways
6874 on a 23E Corporation St Square Peg. I guess with the temporary terminus change, these workings will replace journeys that would previously have run to New St Station.
Off-topic posts about old destination displays have been split off into a new topic here:
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4957 working a 74E to hockley due to being nearly half hour late.
4730 working a 18E to Bangham pit.
810 working a 89E to Victoria park due to being over 30 mins late on the 89.
821 working a 40E to friar park due to being nearly 20 mins late.
7534 running a 50E to maypole.
6929 - 9E Bearwood
6846, 24E Harborne. Part route showing on the side destination display.