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ATG, igo and Ring & Ride

Started by vinh1000, September 29, 2012, 05:56:23 PM

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the trainbasher

Wouldn't be surprised if it was Banga or Let's Go the way that they are going, gaining contracts out of the blue.


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Solo1

Quote from: metrocity on March 25, 2019, 05:34:30 PM
A new operator is due to start the 19 on the 31st March
could be Walsall community transport

Westy

Quote from: Solo1 on March 26, 2019, 06:02:40 AM
could be Walsall community transport

And their depot is only around the corner in Little Bloxwich!

Westy

Quote from: Tony on March 25, 2019, 10:29:30 PM
Why is NX the obvious operator? These routes will be issued as emergency tenders. The obvious operator is the best bidder.

There is no 'pecking order' there's several operators have been approached and asked to bid

Tony, take your point about the emergency tender, but over the years, it always seems to be if Nx doesnt do the route, then Diamond does it, then if they didnt, then Arriva did it, then if they didnt, then Igo did it.

If I'm wrong, I apologise, but that is how it seems to me over the years I've been doing this as a 'hobby'!

Tony

Quote from: Westy on March 26, 2019, 11:01:12 AM
Tony, take your point about the emergency tender, but over the years, it always seems to be if Nx doesnt do the route, then Diamond does it, then if they didnt, then Arriva did it, then if they didnt, then Igo did it.

If I'm wrong, I apologise, but that is how it seems to me over the years I've been doing this as a 'hobby'!

It's nothing of the sort. Up until very recently it was exactly the opposite. Igo were first choice because of their low tenders and NX were last resort if no one else bid

DJ


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winston

Quote from: StourValley98 on March 26, 2019, 01:54:34 PM
Ring & Ride has been saved then: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-47705997

Not safe yet.

That reads to me as though it's been thrown a lifeline of funding to prevent collapse/keep operating, it will give the administrators/stake holders more time to find a long term solution.

Stuharris 6360

Quote from: Winston on March 26, 2019, 02:00:27 PM
Not safe yet.

That reads to me as though it's been thrown a lifeline of funding to prevent collapse/keep operating, it will give the administrators/stake holders more time to find a long term solution.

It makes me wonder if the Ring & Ride service model is really financially viable in the current economic climate?
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igomeister

Quote from: Winston on March 26, 2019, 02:00:27 PM
Not safe yet.

That reads to me as though it's been thrown a lifeline of funding to prevent collapse/keep operating, it will give the administrators/stake holders more time to find a long term solution.

I agree. I presume that money won't fund igo services either. If they're paid for by TfWM in the first place then surely they won't receive more funding from BCC.

winston

Quote from: igomeister on March 26, 2019, 05:34:07 PM
I agree. I presume that money won't fund igo services either. If they're paid for by TfWM in the first place then surely they won't receive more funding from BCC.

I read it that the additional funding secured for ATG is simply to keep Ring & Ride running, Igo I suspect will eventually just disappear & all tendered services will be absorbed by other operators in time.

The BCC comments suggest funding paid over 12 weeks, or whether it will give ATG 12 weeks (3 months grace) to secure a long term solution?

Tony

Quote from: Winston on March 26, 2019, 05:40:06 PM
I read it that the additional funding secured for ATG is simply to keep Ring & Ride running, Igo I suspect will eventually just disappear & all tendered services will be absorbed by other operators in time.

The BCC comments suggest funding paid over 12 weeks, or whether it will give ATG 12 weeks (3 months grace) to secure a long term solution?

TfWM have awarded a lot more of the routes to other operators today to run from Monday 1/4/19
NXWM have to find 12 more buses

I am sure there will be a formal announcement of which operators have which routes in due course

winston

Quote from: Tony on March 26, 2019, 05:47:03 PM
TfWM have awarded a lot more of the routes to other operators today to run from Monday 1/4/19
NXWM have to find 12 more buses

I am sure there will be a formal announcement of which operators have which routes in due course

I'm assuming NXWM will now be lucky if they're able to withdraw 40-45 old buses due to all the various pvr increases.

Trident 4194

Quote from: Tony on March 26, 2019, 05:47:03 PM
TfWM have awarded a lot more of the routes to other operators today to run from Monday 1/4/19
NXWM have to find 12 more buses

I am sure there will be a formal announcement of which operators have which routes in due course

I really hope you haven't won the 10H lol

Tony


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Quote from: Tony on March 26, 2019, 05:47:03 PM
TfWM have awarded a lot more of the routes to other operators today to run from Monday 1/4/19
NXWM have to find 12 more buses

I am sure there will be a formal announcement of which operators have which routes in due course

Would this entail purchasing 2nd hand vehicles?
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