Rotala Management - Questions & Answers

[hlliwmai]

Hi @Simon, can you confirm what has happened with 30051? I've read it had a "thermal incident" could you confirm what happened and where?

@hlliwmai - 30051 had a minor electrial fire confined to the engine bay before leaving Kidderminster Depot to take up service, it was dealt with by depot staff. Surprised it's been withdrawn tbh.

[Simon Dunn]

Simon can you comment on whether 20885 will enter service at redditch, as on the latest fleetlist it shows as a transfer from tividale, but also has not mot for over a month?

The vehicle is in Redditch and is being prepared for MOT

[Simon Dunn]

Hi @Simon, can you confirm what has happened with 30051? I've read it had a "thermal incident" could you confirm what happened and where?

@hlliwmai - 30051 had a minor electrial fire confined to the engine bay before leaving Kidderminster Depot to take up service, it was dealt with by depot staff. Surprised it's been withdrawn tbh.

I agree with your comments.  We are always nervous to repair any thermal incident - following previous experiences.

[hlliwmai]

I agree with your comments.  We are always nervous to repair any thermal incident - following previous experiences.

I understand where you are coming from @Simon Dunn but it seems an incredible waste of a Euro 6 vehicle if the damage wasn't that severe then surely it could be repaired? and if necessary a new or refurbished Euro 6 Cummins engine fitted

You cannot just put a euro 6 engine into a vehicle that was not built as euro 6. If some visible wiring has caught fire, you don't always know what wiring you cannot see was also damaged, still working but another possible fire risk. Any vehicle can be repaired, but Rotala's view is by far the safest.- Tony


@Tony  30051 is a 2016 66 registered so it would of been manufactured as Euro 6

[Simon Dunn]

I understand where you are coming from @Simon Dunn but it seems an incredible waste of a Euro 6 vehicle if the damage wasn't that severe then surely it could be repaired? and if necessary a new or refurbished Euro 6 Cummins engine fitted

You cannot just put a euro 6 engine into a vehicle that was not built as euro 6. If some visible wiring has caught fire, you don't always know what wiring you cannot see was also damaged, still working but another possible fire risk. Any vehicle can be repaired, but Rotala's view is by far the safest.- Tony


@Tony  30051 is a 2016 66 registered so it would of been manufactured as Euro 6

We are reviewing our options - but I suspect we won't repair it.

[Jay71]

32124 should have left WB at 1417. Bus arrived . Driver put NIS on destination screen.  Any idea why this service failed to operate?

[Simon Dunn]

32124 should have left WB at 1417. Bus arrived . Driver put NIS on destination screen.  Any idea why this service failed to operate?

Unfortunately the vehicle could not continue.  

[TheMidlandsTrident]

30170 MX62 GOA running round redditch on the 57 with displays on Diamond Midlands and 32219 SO65 LRY running round on 11 and 12 with no front display and 30503 BX58 AOY also running round the 57 with Diamond Midlands on the display.

At one point 30170 and 30503 were running 1 behind the other, so back to back vehicles on the 57 had no displays.

[Simon Dunn]

30170 MX62 GOA running round redditch on the 57 with displays on Diamond Midlands and 32219 SO65 LRY running round on 11 and 12 with no front display and 30503 BX58 AOY also running round the 57 with Diamond Midlands on the display.

At one point 30170 and 30503 were running 1 behind the other, so back to back vehicles on the 57 had no displays.

Just so I understand.  Was this yesterday?  was 32219 on the 11 and 12?  as we don't operate a 12 on a Sunday.


Simon

[Westy]

We are working to resolve this.

30527 - Probably a similar issue.

Displaying Service 31 Walsall via Bloxwich, but next stop info on the same screen refering to 'Jervoise Road' !

Taking a guess 002 information?

[TheMidlandsTrident]

Just so I understand.  Was this yesterday?  was 32219 on the 11 and 12?  as we don't operate a 12 on a Sunday.


Simon

Sorry i should have pointed out, this was 10/02/2024 (Saturday).

[Simon Dunn]

Sorry i should have pointed out, this was 10/02/2024 (Saturday).

We have checked the vehicles and the blinds are all working.  We will identify the individual drivers concerned and discuss this with them.

[Jay71]

32133. Today this bus should have left Upper Dean St at 1500. For some reason he chose to leave at 1456.
Then 40832 left fourteen mins late. For some reason the driver decided to have a break before he left Upper Dean St

[Wba_lad]

32133. Today this bus should have left Upper Dean St at 1500. For some reason he chose to leave at 1456.
Then 40832 left fourteen mins late. For some reason the driver decided to have a break before he left Upper Dean St

Maybe driver needed to stretch legs or just have a quick breather. Fourteen mins he will catch it up at some point. Maybe he just needed a little break for a bite to eat and a drink.

@Wba_lad - I'm pretty certain that you are not Rotala Management, this is a Rotala Q&A thread for Simon Dunn & Rotala staff only (again see forum rules), if you really feel the need to make daft comments, this should be done in appropriate thread mentioning the original poster, Winston.

[Simon Dunn]

30527 - Probably a similar issue.

Displaying Service 31 Walsall via Bloxwich, but next stop info on the same screen refering to 'Jervoise Road' !

Taking a guess 002 information?

We have checked the vehicle on multiple occasions since - we believe it was down to driver error.  This is an area in which we need to improve the training we give our staff.