Quote from: Tony on August 27, 2023, 03:25:30 PMThey currently don't run any stage carriage workWas this company Johnson's as I heard a rumour about them taking over Alcester schools services. May not be accurate of course though!
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Show posts MenuQuote from: Tony on August 27, 2023, 03:25:30 PMThey currently don't run any stage carriage workWas this company Johnson's as I heard a rumour about them taking over Alcester schools services. May not be accurate of course though!
Quote from: Sandy Lane on October 08, 2021, 12:47:57 PMHad some rides on the exmoor open top coaster service from Minehead to Lynmouth on A39. First Bus 36082 SN57 DCE in use and it really has to work hard. Excellent professional staff. How long these buses will last before they wear out?Got to experience the Exmoor Coaster service this week but going from Ilfracombe to Lynmouth.
The route involves a 1 in 4 incline and descent on hairpin bends - bus leans over at a scary angle, narrow roads and then across the top of gale force exmoor. In places you are on the edge of a cliff with no barrier and a massive drop down to the sea. Runs till end of October and has to be the best open top ride in the SW if not all the country?
Question - is there anything similar in the West Mids that compares?
Quote from: WalsallBuses2007 on August 22, 2023, 03:12:56 AMHaven't had time to post completely forgot but the driver got off his bus fitted the mirror back on the bus and carried on with its 69E to wood end astonished me that he carried on I mean the mirror completely fell off I would've thought this shouldn't have happened and driver should of not movedA number of vehicle types have mirrors that just slot on so as long as the mirror wasn't broken there is no issue. Likewise, as long as the mirror didn't hit a pedestrian or cause damage to another vehicle or property, there is no need to stop as that would have inconvenienced passengers for no reason.
Quote from: Justin Tyme on August 11, 2023, 10:56:24 PMOK, but can anyone come up with a better measurement of "bus routes in decline" than comparing mileage?Perhaps something like a ratio of passenger numbers to service miles covered in each area - this would give a much better indication of the health of bus travel in different areas (within smaller areas in conurbations as well as a general overview - like comparing Dudley with Coventry for example)and would also be fairly simple to compare between different years (obviously 2023 would have to be the starting point though unless this information is available for other years).
Quote from: Straightlines on August 11, 2023, 10:37:13 PMOnly the small matter of the fact that the NX Bristol Road services are less frequent now too!I think the difference may be every 6 mins rather than previously every 5 mins circa 2010 - also the buses have more running time now than they did then so the actual service difference is minimal.
Quote from: Danthebusman on August 11, 2023, 10:57:31 AMI couldn't find a relevant thread for this topic so if there is one just merge this into the respective topic. Saw on the news yesterday that bus routes in the UK have halved since 2011, from 17,384 to 8,781 while the Conservatives have been in power, with the West Midlands being the worst hit with over 2/3 of routes being cut. Almost 2,000 routes were cut in 2021/22 alone, which emphasises how much COVID has hit the bus industry along with multiple other factors. It's going to be very hard to turn this around and shows just how low of a priority the bus industry and public transportation in general is to this government.Whilst it is shocking on the face of it, there are certainly a number of factors at play here. Pre-COVID the decline was significantly lower (albeit still declining) and without COVID the number of route cuts would be far lower. Taking away 15-20% of passengers has caused this sudden massive decline.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 22, 2023, 09:54:19 PMDisappointing that the 12:08 76 instead of doing full route only went to yardley wood - then went down to depot rather than continuing to Solihull. Don't tell me there's still a shortage of drivers with the wacky wages offeredCould have been for any reason, not just driver shortage. Were you on the bus? If so why didn't you ask the driver? If not, why are you even asking this question?
Quote from: Straightlines on July 19, 2023, 08:50:08 PMCan't see this bringing a six figure turnover increase to the 20 that it would need to sustain extra PVR!Perhaps but with adjustments to the 23/24 routes running along the same stretch of road possibly a bus could be saved off those routes and put on the 20 instead.
Quote from: MW on July 19, 2023, 07:56:50 PMThe seats on the First spec Streetlites of that era (https://flic.kr/p/RYGvHq) are the same as Diamonds standard specification on new vehicles, so they shouldn't be any different to Streetlites that Diamond's passengers are already accustomed to, other than having a pink grab handles inside.Knowing First they probably retuned the engines to make them more sluggish to increase fuel economy. However, I'm guessing if they were rental vehicles there may have been restrictions on what the company could do with the vehicles in terms of making significant changes.
I can't see there being any modifications though. At most, maybe First have remapped the Gearbox to behave in a more smooth manner (as certain Arriva ops have done).
Quote from: Straightlines on July 19, 2023, 08:06:24 PMNot sure how this would replace any of the 'much missed' 21 or provide any further useful links!From QE run via Harborne Lane up to Fiveways then into town. There is no direct bus now along Harborne Lane to the QE/Selly Oak/Longbridge - plenty of useful links there.
Quote from: MW on July 19, 2023, 07:40:10 AMI disagree with E200s being far better from a drivers point of view.We had a 64 plate batch of Midi Streetlites then 65 plate full size, along with a few StreetDecks. It's good to hear later vehicles were better but I'm guessing these 13 plate ones still have some of the flaws mentioned. Hopefully they have had adaptations made to them though so they are better than they were.
Bar the gearbox, I find early Streetlites better than E200s to drive. The cab is slightly bigger on Streetlites legroom wise and at higher speed, when you eventually get there, are far more stable compared to every single E200 I've driven. E200s have always had rubbish steering.
ERZ2028 / GN14LPL when performing as they should were better to drive than the ex Central Buses E200s when they first arrived at Diamond IMO.
The MMCs though are in a different league when coupled with the Allison gearbox.
Passenger point of view wise; yes I agree that E200s rattle less. It was usually the Emergency Exit rattling on Streetlites that was an issue.
I'm not sure which generation of Streetlite Midi you drove, but the Micro Hybrid versions from around 2015 did have a slightly better turning circle.
Quote from: Westy on July 18, 2023, 10:54:27 PMWould they extend it back to Birmingham via the other Harborne routes?Perhaps it could extend to Birmingham from the QE via the old 21 route through Harborne. Would provide further useful links as the 21 is certainly a much missed service.
Quote from: MW on July 18, 2023, 08:00:58 PMWhat were the issues with these vehicles when new; from both a passenger and drivers point of view?After about 6 months of usage the rattles started, they were sluggish pulling off from junctions (like Streetdecks), poor turning circles for the size of the bus, even the MIDI version, and passengers often complained about the seats being cramped and very uncomfortable (obviously other operators may have chosen better seating on their vehicles but the First ones weren't great), the vibrations when stopped with the handbrake on and poor heating.
Quote from: winston on July 18, 2023, 12:07:21 PMRotala have acquired a further 10 ex First Streetlites via Ensign that are being returned off lease, they will be for Diamond WM (Depot TBC):I hope these buses have had some improvements made to them since they were new - they were awful to drive and I feel very sorry for passengers having to use them if they haven't had adaptations made.
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