This is the thread for the operator Accessible Transport Group (formally known as WMSNT). They also use the ring and ride and iGo brands.
Same i think lateness can be forgiven if its a genuine reason, and they doo seem to have a tidy little fleet :)
New dart with WMSNT is 'KU52 RXR' on the 425 today.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8192930021/
Quote from: danny on September 30, 2012, 05:41:55 PM
Same i think lateness can be forgiven if its a genuine reason, and they doo seem to have a tidy little fleet :)
What routes do WMSNT operate I know there 424 & the 91 (Birmingham Airport - Chelsmey Wood) are there anymore
Quote from: NathanJC on November 17, 2012, 09:42:18 PM
Quote from: danny on September 30, 2012, 05:41:55 PM
Same i think lateness can be forgiven if its a genuine reason, and they doo seem to have a tidy little fleet :)
What routes do WMSNT operate I know there 424 & the 91 (Birmingham Airport - Chelsmey Wood) are there anymore
They do the 425, not the 424, which is VIP.
61 in Wolverhampton
41/47 in Coventry, plus a 900E in the afternoon from Coventry to the Airport.
39/A in Northfield area
167/168 in Sutton
42 In coventry
38, 39 in northfield
649 to the QE
Quote from: John on November 17, 2012, 10:48:25 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on November 17, 2012, 09:42:18 PM
Quote from: danny on September 30, 2012, 05:41:55 PM
Same i think lateness can be forgiven if its a genuine reason, and they doo seem to have a tidy little fleet :)
What routes do WMSNT operate I know there 424 & the 91 (Birmingham Airport - Chelsmey Wood) are there anymore
They do the 425, not the 424, which is VIP.
61 in Wolverhampton
41/47 in Coventry, plus a 900E in the afternoon from Coventry to the Airport.
39/A in Northfield area
167/168 in Sutton
Typo error, I don't know were 424 came from + I thought 167/8 was CentralConnect
Quote from: NathanJC on November 18, 2012, 04:14:01 PM
Typo error, I don't know were 424 came from + I thought 167/8 was CentralConnect
167/8 contract was recently awarded to WMSNT, and was previously operated by Blue Diamond (Central Connect as a brand don't exist anymore).
WMSNT have only been awarded the contract for the 167/8 for 18 weeks from the end of October, so it looks like they may change when the North Birmingham review gets under way.
Quote from: Tomjusttom on November 17, 2012, 10:48:57 PM
42 In coventry
38, 39 in northfield
649 to the QE
Do they operate the 42 in Coventry in the evenings or on sundays becuase I thought it Was NX Coventry that operated it as i saw a trident on there last week in the daytime.
I know it was a 4x service in coventry because they had something similar to the blue diamond merc koch thing on there. I thought it was the 42 but may not have been
Any got a list of where the WMSNT buses they have are based as Wolverhampton had
a grey mini then a wrights dart & now a primo from blue diamond I know they have some darts ,promos ,solos
Quote from: Solo1 on February 17, 2013, 06:21:45 PM
Any got a list of where the WMSNT buses they have are based as Wolverhampton had
a grey mini then a wrights dart & now a primo from blue diamond I know they have some darts ,promos ,solos
WMSNT have promised me a full fleetlist in a couple of weeks time
I take it the ring & ride depots will on as well for those
Who take photos of them I know there is
some people on here that take photos
Of them this will help
WMSNT are taking the Acocks Green route 40 over from VIP the end of next month according to the NWM service changes
Quote from: John on March 20, 2013, 01:30:21 PM
WMSNT are taking the Acocks Green route 40 over from VIP the end of next month according to the NWM service changes
It's certainly something of a 'hot potato' route; first AM-PM, then Silverline, then VIP, and now WMSNT. Who next? ::)
allocations of wmsnt route buses are, 101/116 North B.Ham, 102/5/6/8/9/10/11/18/19/20 South B.ham, 103/7 Wolv, 104/13/14/17 East B.Ham
120 is allocated to South but a local driver said it was not there !!
From April 8th, WMSNT will be running quite a few Warwickshire Flexibus contracts..... Bedworth's local service B1/B2/B3 plus nine other routes which are typically one return journey per week, some of them run into Solihull and Coventry.
Further details here: http://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/busservicechanges (http://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/busservicechanges)
In summary WMSNT gain 12 routes, A&M Group lose 14 routes but gain 4, A-Line Travel lose 4 routes (including Coventry service 735!) and Centrebus gain 2 routes.
Are A-Line Travel pulling the plug on bus service work? ...well after the fiasco with Coventry service 801 it's what they deserve.
what will WMSNT be using for the new services
Why are they called WMSNT ? Is/was there main business operating buses for the handicapped?
Quote from: bob on March 23, 2013, 09:37:29 AM
Why are they called WMSNT ? Is/was there main business operating buses for the handicapped?
WMSNT = "West Midlands Special Needs Transport"
Website: http://www.ringandride.org/wmsnt
Quote from: bob on March 23, 2013, 09:37:29 AM
Why are they called WMSNT ? Is/was there main business operating buses for the handicapped?
I think the main business used to be pretty much only running the "Ring and Ride" services for anyone who found using normal buses difficult. But with funding under pressure for that it seems as though they are looking for new areas of business.
WMSNT ltd, registered charity no 700370
Is`nt this a bit of a contradiction?Do they have an unfair advantage when tendering because of their charitable status?
Quote from: hartshill busman on March 23, 2013, 12:22:03 PM
WMSNT ltd, registered charity no 700370
Is`nt this a bit of a contradiction?Do they have an unfair advantage when tendering because of their charitable status?
Yes full, because they aren't looking to make a profit (as told to me by a driver).
Quote from: NathanJC on November 17, 2012, 09:42:18 PM
Quote from: danny on September 30, 2012, 05:41:55 PM
Same i think lateness can be forgiven if its a genuine reason, and they doo seem to have a tidy little fleet :)
What routes do WMSNT operate I know there 424 & the 91 (Birmingham Airport - Chelsmey Wood) are there anymore
And the 10/H
Quote from: dgss1 on March 23, 2013, 05:18:46 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on November 17, 2012, 09:42:18 PM
Quote from: danny on September 30, 2012, 05:41:55 PM
Same i think lateness can be forgiven if its a genuine reason, and they doo seem to have a tidy little fleet :)
What routes do WMSNT operate I know there 424 & the 91 (Birmingham Airport - Chelsmey Wood) are there anymore
And the 10/H
10 WMSNT Birmingham - Quinton via Augustus Rd
10H WMSNT Birmingham - Quinton via Harborne
38 WMSNT Northfield - Selly Oak via Cotteridge
39 WMSNT Worlds End - Longbridge via Northfield
39A WMSNT Woodgate Valley - Longbridge via Northfield
41 WMSNT Coventry - Stonehouse Estate Circular
47 WMSNT Coventry - Cannon Park Circular
61 WMSNT Wolverhampton - Goldthorn Park
82A WMSNT Balsall Common - Solihull via Hampton in Arden
83 WMSNT Solihull - Meriden via Balsall Common, Berkswell
84 WMSNT Solihull - Kenilworth via Balsall Common
91 WMSNT International Stn - Chelmsley Wd via Marston Grn
167 WMSNT Sutton Coldfield - Erdington via Walmley
168 WMSNT Sutton Coldfield - Erdington via Walmley
425 WMSNT Hamstead - Scott Arms via Longleat
647 WMSNT Weoley Castle - Five Ways via Selly Oak, Harborne
900 WMSNT Coventry - Birmingham Airport via Meriden
S16 WMSNT Solihull - Yardley via Lyndon
112 is missing from the list & I would of
Thought that 113/4/6 would of been together
not at 2 depots also where is the grey
mini they stated running buses with based
there is no 112 or 115 in the fleet list !! The alocations are correct !
what is the fleet number of the white dart that runs on the 425 & how come 2 depots run the Erdington- Sutton services rather than just the one
101 YAZ8645 on 425 today
Solo 117 was on the 61 in Wolverhampton to day
Quote from: Solo1 on March 29, 2013, 09:00:56 PM
Solo 117 was on the 61 in Wolverhampton to day
It was 110 on the 61. 117 isn't a solo.
sorry it's was 110 on there should of
checked the photo I took
Quote from: Solo1 on March 31, 2013, 02:31:58 PM
sorry it's was 110 on there should of
checked the photo I took
Regular Wolverhampton driver is on holiday so a South Birmingham driver, along with South Birmingham bus has been covering. Photo on the main site later
Would of thought Wolverhampton Wmsnt
Would of had a spare driver cheaper than
Having a south Birmingham driver drive up every
day to run the service
Seems they taking on even more services
12 APRIL 2013
FLEXIBUS 218
BINLEY WOODS – WALSGRAVE TESCO
11 APRIL 2013
FLEXIBUS 216
COLESHILL – LEA MARSTON – MIDDLETON – TAMWORTH
10 APRIL 2013
FLEXIBUS 201
HORESTON GRANGE – NUNEATON
FLEXIBUS 232
COLESHILL – MAXSTOKE – CORLEY – FILLONGLEY – STOCKINGFORD – NUNEATON
9 APRIL 2013
FLEXIBUS 219
AUSTREY – POLESWORTH – GRENDON – ATHERSTONE
FLEXIBUS 228
COLESHILL – SHUSTOKE – WHITACRE HEATH – KINGSBURY – HURLEY – ATHERSTONE
8 APRIL 2013
FLEXIBUS B1
BEDWORTH – DALTON ROAD
FLEXIBUS B2
BEDWORTH – COALPIT FIELDS
FLEXIBUS B3
BEDWORTH – TRENANCE ROAD
FLEXIBUS 223
LEA MARSTON – KINGSBURY – CURDWORTH
FLEXIBUS 233
SOLIHULL – BALSALL COMMON – BURTON GREEN – KENILWORTH
Wonder if they will have merc mini buses like what A&M use
KX57FME (120) ON 425 TODAY , 113/114 ON 167 TODAY
With all the new flexibus service Wmsnt has picked up are the
buses they are using ring&ride buses painted in flexibus livery
or have they got the buses from A&M group. & aline
Since the vehicles are owned by Warwickshire County Council it is highly likely they will move to WMSNT with the routes.
WMSNT service 40 is this run by east
Birmingham or South Birmingham
Quote from: Solo1 on May 18, 2013, 08:07:19 PM
WMSNT service 40 is this run by east
Birmingham or South Birmingham
The Frankely Depot i have been told.
Saw primo 119 on there wasn't sure if they
moved one of the primo's & is 119 always used
or it pop luck with the 10 also using
primo's
Quote from: Solo1 on May 18, 2013, 08:55:21 PM
Saw primo 119 on there wasn't sure if they
moved one of the primo's & is 119 always used
or it pop luck with the 10 also using
primo's
Do you mean Enviro200? If so, the few times i've seen it is has been an enviro200
Sorry enviro's
Another new addition KX54 NLA out on the 10 today, photo later
Quote from: Tony on June 14, 2013, 11:59:49 AM
Another new addition KX54 NLA out on the 10 today, photo later
Here is the latest addition, an East Lancs bodies DAF 50 seater, a bit big for Ring & Ride
Quote from: Tony on June 14, 2013, 09:04:54 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 14, 2013, 11:59:49 AM
Another new addition KX54 NLA out on the 10 today, photo later
Here is the latest addition, an East Lancs bodies DAF 50 seater, a bit big for Ring & Ride
Ooh, beast. Is the photo on the main page?
Quote from: The Rat on June 14, 2013, 09:12:13 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 14, 2013, 09:04:54 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 14, 2013, 11:59:49 AM
Another new addition KX54 NLA out on the 10 today, photo later
Here is the latest addition, an East Lancs bodies DAF 50 seater, a bit big for Ring & Ride
Ooh, beast. Is the photo on the main page?
http://wmbusphotos.com/Ring+Ride/KX54NLA.html
Have to agree seems completely daft that a community transport style business would need such a larger vehicle!
Another resident at WMSNT is this, KX08HMF ex Arriva Midlands 1008
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomsbusphotos/9327897093/
and newest resident at WMSNT is ex Arriva Midlands 1005 SN59AXC -
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomsbusphotos/9374611608/
Have the solos been sold that were on the 39 as they have envrios on the 39 now
Quote from: Solo1 on July 27, 2013, 10:05:13 AM
Have the solos been sold that were on the 39 as they have envrios on the 39 now
109 is on the 167/8 today. No Pointer Darts out on there today, saw 2 Solos and a Wright Dart
Looking at the October 27th tender awards I doubt WMSNT will be selling anything
80
Moxley & Bilston via Lower Bradley
Diamond
54
Worlds End to West Bromwich
Diamond
49
West Bromwich & Brandhall via Causeway Green
WMT
75
Aldridge to Kingstanding via Barr Beacon
WMSNT
22
Wolverhampton to Russells Hall Hospital
Not let - too expensive
71
Solihull to Sutton Coldfield via Chelmsley Wood & Castle Vale
Connect
243
Dudley & Cradley Heath via Timbertree & Lyde Green
Diamond
44
West Bromwich to Tipton via Hill Top & Great Bridge - vehicle option
WMSNT
288
Stourbridge & Norton via Chawn Hill & Oldswinford
WMSNT
S10
Solihull to Cranes Park via Sheldon
Silverline
647
Five Ways to Weoley Castle
Connect
91
Birmingham International to Chelmsley Wood Int via Digby Drive
WMSNT
19
Maypole & Longbridge via Cotteridge & Northfield - vehicle option
WMSNT
5
The Baldwin to Solihull
WMT
53
West Bromwich to Bearwood Bus Station
WMSNT
240
Stourbridge & Cradley Heath via Lye
267
Stourbridge & Kingswinford via Ashwood Park
Hansons
298/299
Stourbridge & Pedmore Fields Circular
WMSNT
208
Dudley & Cradley Heath/Merry Hill via Brickhouse Farm
Hansons
966
Solihull to Erdington
Not let - too expensive
124
Cradley Heath & Dudley via Netherton
Diamond
S1
Solihull Station to Damson Parkway
WMSNT
282
Merry Hill & Gornal Wood via Dudley
Diamond
55
Brandhall & Cape Hill via Smethwick
Diamond
64
West Bromwich to Wednesbury
WMSNT
30
West Bromwich to Great Bridge
decision deferred
24
Foxyards to Merry Hill Centre via Dudley
WMSNT
122
Oldbury to Bearwood via Langley
Diamond
40
Wednesbury and West Bromwich via Friar Park
WMT
140
Dudley & Birmingham via Blackheath
WMT
966
B'ham Airport to Erdington via Chelmsley Wood
Not let - high cost
Tony, Are the 140 journies won by nxwm (WMT) the current sunday journies operated by diamond?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 27, 2013, 08:44:57 PM
Tony, Are the 140 journies won by nxwm (WMT) the current sunday journies operated by diamond?
I don't know. Those are just taken from the tender list which has been given to me by one of the smaller operators. The only information I have deleted is the cost.
Quote from: Tony on July 27, 2013, 08:40:18 PM
Looking at the October 27th tender awards I doubt WMSNT will be selling anything
80
Moxley & Bilston via Lower Bradley
Diamond
54
Worlds End to West Bromwich
Diamond
49
West Bromwich & Brandhall via Causeway Green
WMT
75
Aldridge to Kingstanding via Barr Beacon
WMSNT
22
Wolverhampton to Russells Hall Hospital
Not let - too expensive
71
Solihull to Sutton Coldfield via Chelmsley Wood & Castle Vale
Connect
243
Dudley & Cradley Heath via Timbertree & Lyde Green
Diamond
44
West Bromwich to Tipton via Hill Top & Great Bridge - vehicle option
WMSNT
288
Stourbridge & Norton via Chawn Hill & Oldswinford
WMSNT
S10
Solihull to Cranes Park via Sheldon
Silverline
647
Five Ways to Weoley Castle
Connect
91
Birmingham International to Chelmsley Wood Int via Digby Drive
WMSNT
19
Maypole & Longbridge via Cotteridge & Northfield - vehicle option
WMSNT
5
The Baldwin to Solihull
WMT
53
West Bromwich to Bearwood Bus Station
WMSNT
240
Stourbridge & Cradley Heath via Lye
267
Stourbridge & Kingswinford via Ashwood Park
Hansons
298/299
Stourbridge & Pedmore Fields Circular
WMSNT
208
Dudley & Cradley Heath/Merry Hill via Brickhouse Farm
Hansons
966
Solihull to Erdington
Not let - too expensive
124
Cradley Heath & Dudley via Netherton
Diamond
S1
Solihull Station to Damson Parkway
WMSNT
282
Merry Hill & Gornal Wood via Dudley
Diamond
55
Brandhall & Cape Hill via Smethwick
Diamond
64
West Bromwich to Wednesbury
WMSNT
30
West Bromwich to Great Bridge
decision deferred
24
Foxyards to Merry Hill Centre via Dudley
WMSNT
122
Oldbury to Bearwood via Langley
Diamond
40
Wednesbury and West Bromwich via Friar Park
WMT
140
Dudley & Birmingham via Blackheath
WMT
966
B'ham Airport to Erdington via Chelmsley Wood
Not let - high cost
It really irritates me how what is essentially a charity is allowed to bid competitively for contracts which should go to commercial organisations it is totally unfair competition and should be stopped
WMSNT are certainly becoming a sizeable force in the Centro area
I see Arriva Midlands have lost the 208, 282, 288, 298 & 299
Diamond seem to have lost a few and gained a few
Quote from: Tony on July 27, 2013, 08:49:01 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 27, 2013, 08:44:57 PM
Tony, Are the 140 journies won by nxwm (WMT) the current sunday journies operated by diamond?
I don't know. Those are just taken from the tender list which has been given to me by one of the smaller operators. The only information I have deleted is the cost.
oh ok sorry :(
Quote from: Winston on July 27, 2013, 08:54:54 PM
WMSNT are certainly becoming a sizeable force in the Centro area
I see Arriva Midlands have lost the 208, 282, 288, 298 & 299
Diamond seem to have lost a few and gained a few
The operator seems to have dropped off the 240 as well - this is also WMSNT
Quote from: Winston on July 27, 2013, 08:54:54 PM
WMSNT are certainly becoming a sizeable force in the Centro area
I see Arriva Midlands have lost the 208, 282, 288, 298 & 299
Diamond seem to have lost a few and gained a few
They are sadly
Yes, the arriva effect has come and gone-initially everyone thought they would take the wm market by storm but they have epically failed to do that
Diamond have picked up a couple of new ones and lost a few as you have said trident 4609. I imagine though that they will be making more money on the ones they have picked up now though than the ones they have lost. To be fair, I look at that tendered services list and think many services there could easily be made commerical-the 19 is a case in point
Quote from: Peter123 on July 27, 2013, 08:59:09 PM
Quote from: Winston on July 27, 2013, 08:54:54 PM
WMSNT are certainly becoming a sizeable force in the Centro area
I see Arriva Midlands have lost the 208, 282, 288, 298 & 299
Diamond seem to have lost a few and gained a few
They are sadly
Yes, the arriva effect has come and gone-initially everyone thought they would take the wm market by storm but they have epically failed to do that
Diamond have picked up a couple of new ones and lost a few as you have said trident 4609. I imagine though that they will be making more money on the ones they have picked up now though than the ones they have lost. To be fair, I look at that tendered services list and think many services there could easily be made commerical-the 19 is a case in point
The 19 would never be commercial. It is the second most expensive tender costing over £1/3m for the three years. This is a point I have made before that someone just looking on from outside cannot tell how much a route costs/makes. This is not a knock at you Peter, just without knowing costs and income it is impossible to tell if a route is good or bad. Doing it on costs per year it does drop down the list a place to third behind the 71 & 54
It really irritates me how what is essentially a charity is allowed to bid competitively for contracts which should go to commercial organisations it is totally unfair competition and should be stopped
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I take your point, but at the end of the day we are talking about Ratepayers money being spent here, so the cheaper the better, and I haven't heard any complaints about WSMNT not running their existing Tenders competantly.
Quote from: Tony on July 27, 2013, 09:10:21 PM
Quote from: Peter123 on July 27, 2013, 08:59:09 PM
Quote from: Winston on July 27, 2013, 08:54:54 PM
WMSNT are certainly becoming a sizeable force in the Centro area
I see Arriva Midlands have lost the 208, 282, 288, 298 & 299
Diamond seem to have lost a few and gained a few
They are sadly
Yes, the arriva effect has come and gone-initially everyone thought they would take the wm market by storm but they have epically failed to do that
Diamond have picked up a couple of new ones and lost a few as you have said trident 4609. I imagine though that they will be making more money on the ones they have picked up now though than the ones they have lost. To be fair, I look at that tendered services list and think many services there could easily be made commerical-the 19 is a case in point
The 19 would never be commercial. It is the second most expensive tender costing over £1/3m for the three years. This is a point I have made before that someone just looking on from outside cannot tell how much a route costs/makes. This is not a knock at you Peter, just without knowing costs and income it is impossible to tell if a route is good or bad. Doing it on costs per year it does drop down the list a place to third behind the 71 & 54
That must be because it has 3 buses on the route and is a long route as well... fair enough Tony I understand it is hard to predict costings for a route but I thought that it would have stacked up commercially more than it does as it seems quite busy with plenty of people buying tickets on the service. But over £100, 000 for the route a year for a 312 day operation so thats over 320 per day so over 100 per bus. Thats more than diamonds 50/16 are taking at the moment!!!!
Quote from: D10 on July 27, 2013, 09:13:15 PM
It really irritates me how what is essentially a charity is allowed to bid competitively for contracts which should go to commercial organisations it is totally unfair competition and should be stopped
I take your point, but at the end of the day we are talking about Ratepayers money being spent here, so the cheaper the better, and I haven't heard any complaints about WSMNT not running their existing Tenders competantly.[/quote]
I agree D10 yes in todays climate good value tenders are important it just irritates me how WMSNT is a charity yet now seems to be a full commercial organisation that competes against the private sector but can still use its charitable status to gain better deals on things and potentially even better tax rates giving it a far better advantage over other companies.
Good to see a little more variety in the mix i.e Diamond on the 282.
Tony,
Is it Hanson's that have won the 240 as well?
They'll have to shoehorn the extra buses they'll need in to their Lye depot
Which buses do WMSNT use on their 297 service?
Quote from: Winston on July 27, 2013, 10:37:12 PM
Tony,
Is it Hanson's that have won the 240 as well?
They'll have to shoehorn the extra buses they'll need in to their Lye depot
They've lost the 124, and that was PVR 2, 240 is 1 i think (not sure)
Quote from: Sh4166 on July 27, 2013, 10:39:00 PM
Which buses do WMSNT use on their 297 service?
It is the same Optare Solo, 105 (YJ10 EKR) and the same driver every night
Quote from: bususer12 on July 27, 2013, 10:40:24 PM
Quote from: Winston on July 27, 2013, 10:37:12 PM
Tony,
Is it Hanson's that have won the 240 as well?
They'll have to shoehorn the extra buses they'll need in to their Lye depot
They've lost the 124, and that was PVR 2, 240 is 1 i think (not sure)
Who is taking over the 124?
Quote from: bususer12 on July 27, 2013, 10:40:24 PM
Quote from: Winston on July 27, 2013, 10:37:12 PM
Tony,
Is it Hanson's that have won the 240 as well?
They'll have to shoehorn the extra buses they'll need in to their Lye depot
They've lost the 124, and that was PVR 2, 240 is 1 i think (not sure)
yes, forgot Hanson's ran the 124
Hansons have lost 124.but retained 208 (this was for daytime service)and 267.The 240 has been done by diamond for the last year.
Quote from: Winston on July 27, 2013, 08:54:54 PM
WMSNT are certainly becoming a sizeable force in the Centro area
I see Arriva Midlands have lost the 208, 282, 288, 298 & 299
Diamond seem to have lost a few and gained a few
Arriva haven't lost 208 - this is the daytime contract which Hansons have retained.
Quote from: a220 on July 27, 2013, 11:24:44 PM
Quote from: Winston on July 27, 2013, 08:54:54 PM
WMSNT are certainly becoming a sizeable force in the Centro area
I see Arriva Midlands have lost the 208, 282, 288, 298 & 299
Diamond seem to have lost a few and gained a few
Arriva haven't lost 208 - this is the daytime contract which Hansons have retained.
I reliase this now, are the remainder of the Arriva losses going to have much impact on Wednesfield depot? Is it around 3 or 4 buses worth of work?
Do WMSNT accept swift???
Yes
E200 on the 297 tonight, not the usual Optare Solo. :)
Quote from: s94 on July 30, 2013, 09:25:14 PM
E200 on the 297 tonight, not the usual Optare Solo. :)
Makes a change as its the same bus each night on there.
Indeed, makes sense to put the best bus on tbh as im sure in the evening they have plenty of buses parked up!
Quote from: s94 on July 30, 2013, 09:35:02 PM
Indeed, makes sense to put the best bus on tbh as im sure in the evening they have plenty of buses parked up!
Yeah i can see your point :) Maybe the Solo usually used has a defect so is in the garage?
Well its obvious that Arriva have suddenly gone off the West Midlands, don't think that every is as rosy as they thought it would be.
Be interesting to see where WMSNT get there extra buses from.
E200 119 on the 297 again tonight. Hopefully a permanent change. :)
Quote from: s94 on July 31, 2013, 10:45:51 PM
E200 119 on the 297 again tonight. Hopefully a permanent change. :)
Was planning to catch it on the 21:00 out of Halesowen but missed it. Will try again some point tomorrow night if I can
How long have WMSNT been operating the Evening 297?
Quote from: Nathan on August 04, 2013, 05:53:28 PM
How long have WMSNT been operating the Evening 297?
Only a few months Nathan. End of June I think it was
Commenced 09/06/2013
Quote from: DJ trainbasher on August 04, 2013, 06:52:59 PM
Commenced 09/06/2013
Me and Trainbasher rode the first ever journey
White Optare solo (YJ58 PGV) on the 10H today
Quote from: Tony on June 14, 2013, 09:04:54 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 14, 2013, 11:59:49 AM
Another new addition KX54 NLA out on the 10 today, photo later
Here is the latest addition, an East Lancs bodies DAF 50 seater, a bit big for Ring & Ride
Have WMSNT still got this one?
Quote from: John on August 13, 2013, 08:13:53 AM
Quote from: Tony on June 14, 2013, 09:04:54 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 14, 2013, 11:59:49 AM
Another new addition KX54 NLA out on the 10 today, photo later
Here is the latest addition, an East Lancs bodies DAF 50 seater, a bit big for Ring & Ride
Have WMSNT still got this one?
I last saw it on the 10 about 3 weeks ago
Quote from: Tony on August 13, 2013, 10:00:00 AM
Quote from: John on August 13, 2013, 08:13:53 AM
Quote from: Tony on June 14, 2013, 09:04:54 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 14, 2013, 11:59:49 AM
Another new addition KX54 NLA out on the 10 today, photo later
Here is the latest addition, an East Lancs bodies DAF 50 seater, a bit big for Ring & Ride
Have WMSNT still got this one?
I last saw it on the 10 about 3 weeks ago
Me saying that yesterday, I saw it on the 10 today
Surprise news is that the 19 route is to get 4 brand new buses next month - luxury spec Optare Solos, probably similar to the Stagecoach Gold ones in Leamington Spa interior wise
Quote from: Tony on August 13, 2013, 07:12:13 PM
Surprise news is that the 19 route is to get 4 brand new buses next month - luxury spec Optare Solos, probably similar to the Stagecoach Gold ones in Leamington Spa interior wise
Which route 19 is that Tony?
Quote from: Winston on August 13, 2013, 07:31:39 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 13, 2013, 07:12:13 PM
Surprise news is that the 19 route is to get 4 brand new buses next month - luxury spec Optare Solos, probably similar to the Stagecoach Gold ones in Leamington Spa interior wise
Which route 19 is that Tony?
19
Maypole & Longbridge via Cotteridge & Northfield - vehicle option
Listed in the list of September service wins up thread - presumably the note centro put on the end ' vehicle option' relates to them not taking the cheapest bid and trying to run it as a quality service. This route is also the highest subsidy route on the list, so some of the subsidy is paying for these vehicles
Quote from: Tony on August 13, 2013, 07:47:43 PM
Quote from: Winston on August 13, 2013, 07:31:39 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 13, 2013, 07:12:13 PM
Surprise news is that the 19 route is to get 4 brand new buses next month - luxury spec Optare Solos, probably similar to the Stagecoach Gold ones in Leamington Spa interior wise
Which route 19 is that Tony?
19
Maypole & Longbridge via Cotteridge & Northfield - vehicle option
Listed in the list of September service wins up thread - presumably the note centro put on the end ' vehicle option' relates to them not taking the cheapest bid and trying to run it as a quality service. This route is also the highest subsidy route on the list, so some of the subsidy is paying for these vehicles
Thanks for that Tony, forgot that the 19 was changing hands, no wonder I couldn't find a WMSNT service 19 on Network West Midlands
It doesn't change hands until 27th October, are the higher spec vehicles something to do with the forthcoming South Birmingham review?
Yesterday on 10h one of the darts from
east birmingham how come they have this
at south birmimgham & what are they using
on 38 thanks
105 (the Solo used on evening 297s) seen in Smelly Oak on the 38 this afternoon - so does the bus used on the 38 in the day do the 297 in the evening?
A bit of a long drive from Frankley to start
service what's wrong with Dudley ring & ride
running it what with 288 & 298/9 starting
October
YJ58 PGV spotted on 10
Optate Solo
For Gold Corridor maybe?
All Silver
Ex
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dave58282/6722098191/
KX07 KPT/KPU/KPZ/KRF in the blue bus livery seen today down the side of Aston depot.
Quote from: vinh1000 on August 29, 2013, 05:27:24 PM
YJ58 PGV spotted on 10
Optate Solo
For Gold Corridor maybe?
All Silver
Ex
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dave58282/6722098191/
Those for the 19 will be brand new Solo SRs
is the daf that is on the 10/10h still with them or has this now gone .i know they have a grey solo what is the other bus still a envrio or somethink else
Quote from: Solo1 on September 19, 2013, 05:41:00 PM
is the daf that is on the 10/10h still with them or has this now gone .i know they have a grey solo what is the other bus still a envrio or somethink else
Is that the long white bus
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 19, 2013, 09:34:32 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on September 19, 2013, 05:41:00 PM
is the daf that is on the 10/10h still with them or has this now gone .i know they have a grey solo what is the other bus still a envrio or somethink else
Is that the long white bus
Yes Nathan, this one
http://www.wmbusphotos.com/Ring+Ride/KX54NLA.html
Quote from: John on September 19, 2013, 09:35:28 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 19, 2013, 09:34:32 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on September 19, 2013, 05:41:00 PM
is the daf that is on the 10/10h still with them or has this now gone .i know they have a grey solo what is the other bus still a envrio or somethink else
Is that the long white bus
Yes Nathan, this one
http://www.wmbusphotos.com/Ring+Ride/KX54NLA.html
Thats the one I still haven't manged to photograph, but bet its gone now :)
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 19, 2013, 09:39:42 PM
Quote from: John on September 19, 2013, 09:35:28 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 19, 2013, 09:34:32 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on September 19, 2013, 05:41:00 PM
is the daf that is on the 10/10h still with them or has this now gone .i know they have a grey solo what is the other bus still a envrio or somethink else
Is that the long white bus
Yes Nathan, this one
http://www.wmbusphotos.com/Ring+Ride/KX54NLA.html
Thats the one I still haven't manged to photograph, but bet its gone now :)
Still current, I saw it coming out of the Aston depot on Tuesday
Quote from: Tony on September 19, 2013, 10:03:29 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 19, 2013, 09:39:42 PM
Quote from: John on September 19, 2013, 09:35:28 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 19, 2013, 09:34:32 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on September 19, 2013, 05:41:00 PM
is the daf that is on the 10/10h still with them or has this now gone .i know they have a grey solo what is the other bus still a envrio or somethink else
Is that the long white bus
Still current, I saw it coming out of the Aston depot on Tuesday
Yes Nathan, this one
http://www.wmbusphotos.com/Ring+Ride/KX54NLA.html
Thats the one I still haven't manged to photograph, but bet its gone now :)
Hopefully will get a snap tomorrow on my way to AG :) if its on the 10
What was the long White bus coming out
of Aston depot as I thought the 10/10h
Was run from south b'ham depot
Do WMSNT have two depot's then, I thought they all ran from 1 garage somewere on the X64 route or is that just the minibuses?
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 20, 2013, 09:33:07 AM
Do WMSNT have two depot's then, I thought they all ran from 1 garage somewere on the X64 route or is that just the minibuses?
There are a number of depots. North, South and East Birmingham all have one, as well as Coventry, and I think also Wolverhampton, Walsall and Dudley all have their own
They have depots as follows
Upper Thomas St,off Park Lane,Aston.B6 5PL
Unit 11,Henley Ind Park,Henley Rd,Coventry. CV2 1ST
Unit 21,Elmdon Trading Est,B37 7HE.
Unit 2,off Western Way Ind Est,WS10 7HQ.
Unit 2,Arden Road Business Park,Frankley,B45 OJA.
51,Runcorn Road,Balsall Heath.B12 8QP
Quote from: broma1k on September 20, 2013, 04:21:55 PM
They have depots as follows
Upper Thomas St,off Park Lane,Aston.B6 5PL
Unit 11,Henley Ind Park,Henley Rd,Coventry. CV2 1ST
Unit 21,Elmdon Trading Est,B37 7HE.
Unit 2,off Western Way Ind Est,WS10 7HQ.
Unit 2,Arden Road Business Park,Frankley,B45 OJA.
51,Runcorn Road,Balsall Heath.B12 8QP
Thats the only one I Knew of until today
WMSNT have another allover white short E200 registered T13GAJ on the 10H
Quote from: Winston on September 28, 2013, 03:18:45 PM
WMSNT have another allover white short E200 registered T13GAJ on the 10H
Saw this on a 39H this morning painted blue - unless they have more than one T** GAJ as I didn't quite catch the numbers. I was too busy wondering why there was a WMSNT on Spies lane. A quick google search explained it.
It was indeed a different bus - just seen T13 on the 10 still white. Do they have a T16? That's what I thought it was first.
The Wednesbury postcode is wide of the mark - it should be WS10 7BW according to the RM database!
Quote from: broma1k on September 20, 2013, 04:21:55 PM
They have depots as follows
Upper Thomas St,off Park Lane,Aston.B6 5PL
Unit 11,Henley Ind Park,Henley Rd,Coventry. CV2 1ST
Unit 21,Elmdon Trading Est,B37 7HE.
Unit 2,off Western Way Ind Est,WS10 7HQ.
Unit 2,Arden Road Business Park,Frankley,B45 OJA.
51,Runcorn Road,Balsall Heath.B12 8QP
Do you know if they still park a small number of vehicles at rufford rd stourbridge?
WMSNT are expecting 28 hybrids within the next four weeks!
Quote from: Tony on October 07, 2013, 08:12:45 PM
WMSNT are expecting 28 hybrids within the next four weeks!
They will need them with all the extra work they are taking on!
I wonder if they will take on even more work if VIP meet their demise....
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 07, 2013, 08:17:43 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 07, 2013, 08:12:45 PM
WMSNT are expecting 28 hybrids within the next four weeks!
They will need them with all the extra work they are taking on!
I'm expecting a catch. Are they buses?
Quote from: Tony on October 07, 2013, 08:12:45 PM
WMSNT are expecting 28 hybrids within the next four weeks!
Optare Versas?
I imagine they will be spread out here an there :)
Quote from: Tony on October 07, 2013, 08:12:45 PM
WMSNT are expecting 28 hybrids within the next four weeks!
OMG BREAKING NEWS!
28 Volvo B5LH's set for WMSNT!!
Lol; jk.
But in all seriousness it should help reduce their fuel bills.
Hope it's 28 Volvo 7900H's haha, something different for the West Midlands ;D
Quote from: Stu on October 07, 2013, 08:19:15 PM
I wonder if they will take on even more work if VIP meet their demise....
Maybe, would imagine if its the end of VIP tehn some emergency contracts will be rushed through.
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 07, 2013, 08:47:58 PM
Hope it's 28 Volvo 7900H's haha, something different for the West Midlands ;D
See front page of main site for more details
So ring an ride vans not service buses
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 07, 2013, 09:44:21 PM
So ring an ride vans not service buses
Ford Transit :o :o :o :o :o :o
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 07, 2013, 09:46:09 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 07, 2013, 09:44:21 PM
So ring an ride vans not service buses
Ford Transit :o :o :o :o :o :o
What did I say, I knew it would be vans not buses ;)
Wmsnt have acquired 05(i believe) cdv reg plate optare solo. Got to say, loved travelling on it, much better than E200s
With all the public service bus routes they're now running, what about some sort of dual purpose bus that they can use on both normal routes and the ring and ride services? Or do they have to keep the two separate? Just a thought
WMSNT have sold 101 (YAZ 8645) to Gill's Travel, Derbyshire
http://www.flickr.com/photos/73451759@N05/10160719986/in/photostream/
Forgot to say but i saw a WMSNT Plaxton Primo last Sunday going up Lichfield Rd in Wednesfield (By Gala Bingo And Pound-Stretcher) towards Bloxwich. Any ideas where it was going?
Theres a WMSNT Primo in Coventry today working the 41/47 didn't get it's number.
Wonder if it's one of the south b'ham promos
That r normally on 647 & solo in place doubt it's
the wolves one .a long shot wonder if they have
aquired another promo with all the work they
are getting
Quote from: JoNi on October 11, 2013, 11:25:28 AM
Theres a WMSNT Primo in Coventry today working the 41/47 didn't get it's number.
Think it was 106
Is that the first bus to operate the 41/7 in Cov, as its usually ran by a Minibus
each time I've been in Coventry its been the mini think its fleet no.117
Think I saw a WMSNT Primo once before on 41/7 but it was a long time ago.
The usual minibus has an electronic destination display
Not in Service
Sorry!!
I think ive photographed it when it had 900E - Airport on Display , nice ride that was
anyone looking for the daf 50 seater I asked
one of the wmsnt drivers who said it's no
longer with us been return to where it's
came from
Seen another Plaxton Primo (107) on Lichfield Rd in Wednesfield going towards Bloxwich
Wonder if the primo was on a private sunday only
contract like a bingo service that Coastal liner run
It was at Aston depot Friday afternoon seen clearly from the gates
anyone looking for the daf 50 seater I asked
one of the wmsnt drivers who said it's no
longer with us been return to where it's
came from
[/quote]
Quote from: broma1k on October 13, 2013, 06:14:07 PM
It was at Aston depot Friday afternoon seen clearly from the gates
anyone looking for the daf 50 seater I asked
one of the wmsnt drivers who said it's no
longer with us been return to where it's
came from
[/quote]
Not seen it on the 10 for a while, its now the all white E200's
Like I said the daf has gone now & why have
Wmsnt sold 102 are they upgrading the
fleet with envrio's now or is there another reason
I have been promised a new fleet list by Wmsnt in a couple of weeks time when the new orders have arrived
Any one got a list of where the service buses wmsnt run are based
as the solos I have seen on 167/8 service but the list posted
on page 1 or 2 has it down as south b'ham as others may of moved
Quote from: Solo1 on October 14, 2013, 12:40:18 PM
Any one got a list of where the service buses wmsnt run are based
as the solos I have seen on 167/8 service but the list posted
on page 1 or 2 has it down as south b'ham as others may of moved
I have only just posted that I am getting a new fleet list in a couple of weeks time
125 and 128 seen today, both '05' plate Solos in fleet livery. One on the 647 and the other is on the 10
128 is YJ58 PGV I am informed
Enviro200 118 on the 297 in place of the usual Solo 105 last night
Anyone know what route the 75 is taking/doing to Alridge, as it looks like a complete new route ?
missing out Thornbirgde Avenue replaced by the 88A (CB) it then follows the 997 to the dears leap pub ? but doesnt follow the 997 towards streetly think it then does parts of the 997E before going werever ?
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 15, 2013, 03:03:09 PM
Anyone know what route the 75 is taking/doing to Alridge, as it looks like a complete new route ?
missing out Thornbirgde Avenue replaced by the 88A (CB) it then follows the 997 to the dears leap pub ? but doesnt follow the 997 towards streetly think it then does parts of the 997E before going werever ?
The 75 does not go to Thornbridge Avenue Nathan. Do you mean Kings Road/Kingstanding Circle?
Quote from: John on October 15, 2013, 04:36:06 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 15, 2013, 03:03:09 PM
Anyone know what route the 75 is taking/doing to Alridge, as it looks like a complete new route ?
missing out Thornbirgde Avenue replaced by the 88A (CB) it then follows the 997 to the dears leap pub ? but doesnt follow the 997 towards streetly think it then does parts of the 997E before going werever ?
The 75 does not go to Thornbridge Avenue Nathan. Do you mean Kings Road/Kingstanding Circle?
Thornbridge Avenue is down Perry Beeches, I meant Thorncliff Road or Avenue its one of them ;D
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 15, 2013, 07:25:03 PM
Thornbridge Avenue is down Perry Beeches, I meant Thorncliff Road or Avenue its one of them ;D
Thorncliffe Road, off Shady Lane you must mean Nathan :)
Yeah that's the one didn't know if it was Road Or Avenue (: .
So I take WMSNT have scrapped the old 75, and are creating a new version by the looks of things
Quote from: Solo1 on October 14, 2013, 10:11:04 AM
Like I said the daf has gone now & why have
Wmsnt sold 102 are they upgrading the
fleet with envrio's now or is there another reason
The large DAF is still with WMSNT on the 10 today, still plain white, but now has logos on front and side
Primo appeared on 41 and 47 in Coventry again today. It was 106 which doesn't have an offside fleetnumber but fortuately has one on the back.
New addition - optare solo yj10 mbf on the 39
Quote from: Sayeed_M on October 23, 2013, 09:02:33 AM
New addition - optare solo yj10 mbf on the 39
http://wmbusphotos.com/UniversityofWolverhampton/YJ10MBF.html
Seems to come from them
Quote from: vinh1000 on October 23, 2013, 09:24:25 AM
Quote from: Sayeed_M on October 23, 2013, 09:02:33 AM
New addition - optare solo yj10 mbf on the 39
http://wmbusphotos.com/UniversityofWolverhampton/YJ10MBF.html
Seems to come from them
Ex Optare demonstrator by the look of the livery
Another new addition - E200 KX08 HMD also on the 39
P.S: I apologise if it did mentioned before
Seen at Park Road Friday Optare demo YJ11 OJK newcomer KX55 RYZ.T16 GAJ carrying fleet number 126 + 4 of the new hybrids no reg or fleet number on any.
Unidentified E200 on the 297
Quote from: the trainbasher on October 26, 2013, 07:36:15 PM
Unidentified E200 on the 297
Interesting, the usual Solo 105 was on the 38 daytime today which is where it usually is. I wonder why it didn't go onto the 297 as usual this evening
126 is at Wednesbury depot on the 24 today
128 was on the 53 yesterday
Rode Solo 129 on the 240 this afternoon
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 28, 2013, 05:00:47 PM
Rode Solo 129 on the 240 this afternoon
There was also a Solo on the 298/9 today. Also an E200 in Dudley this morning and left via where the 1,222,27,74,87,126 etc leave. Which route was this doing?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 28, 2013, 06:35:55 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 28, 2013, 05:00:47 PM
Rode Solo 129 on the 240 this afternoon
There was also a Solo on the 298/9 today. Also an E200 in Dudley this morning and left via where the 1,222,27,74,87,126 etc leave. Which route was this doing?
Possible the 24 Nathan?
Solo 105 is on its evening 297 board still
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 28, 2013, 05:00:47 PM
Rode Solo 129 on the 240 this afternoon
114 on the 240 today.
128 is doing the 297 tonight
2 more Enviro's on the 24 today, both with either private or Irish plates, something like GAJ 1T or something not 100% sure, one had the fleetnumber 126, the other didn't seem to have one
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on October 30, 2013, 02:45:19 PM
2 more Enviro's on the 24 today, both with either private or Irish plates, something like GAJ 1T or something not 100% sure, one had the fleetnumber 126, the other didn't seem to have one
There is one Enviro200 with registration 'T16 GAJ', and I think another one is 'T15 GAJ', not sure on this one though
T13 it is not T15
Quote from: the trainbasher on October 30, 2013, 02:58:51 PM
T13 it is not T15
That's why I said I'm not sure
'YJ10 MBF' on the 39A http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/10574495296
113 was on the 1311 61 off Wolverhampton Art Gallery
With 113 in Wolverhampton & 114 in stourbridge
What has replaced them at east Birmingham
Re Tony's website photo of it in Erdington 30/10 ... MX10DXD was actually in service on either the 167 or 168 yesterday (31/10/13) - seen in Asda Minworth
114 240
102 10H
re MX10DXD was on 167/8 along with 2 solo's that leave's
1 solo & 1 dart for 75. 1 for service & 1 spare one
105 38 earlier
125 297 now
does anyone find the 75 route around Barr Beacon dangerous? Always wondered why it went round the back as none gets on or off round there ?
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 04, 2013, 06:51:46 PM
does anyone find the 75 route around Barr Beacon dangerous? Always wondered why it went round the back as none gets on or off round there ?
Plenty of rural bus services go down narrow country lanes, just not many round here. There is a retirement caravan park down Pinford Lane so some people that live there must use the 75 otherwise it would not go down there
New optare solo sr on the 19
Quote from: Sayeed_M on November 07, 2013, 09:11:01 AM
Quote from: Sayeed_M on November 06, 2013, 12:28:15 PM
New optare solo sr on the 19
Yj11 OJK
The brand new ones as opposed to newly acquired ones for the 19 are due next week
New addition to the fleet - KX55 RYZ on the 39/A
Have the primo's been withdrawn with all
the new stuff they have had I know they
have some new services
Quote from: Solo1 on November 10, 2013, 02:00:33 PM
Have the primo's been withdrawn with all
the new stuff they have had I know they
have some new services
Nope Solo1, there still going, seen one on the 91 (Chelmsley Wood - Birmingham International Airport) recently
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 10, 2013, 05:26:01 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on November 10, 2013, 02:00:33 PM
Have the primo's been withdrawn with all
the new stuff they have had I know they
have some new services
Nope Solo1, there still going, seen one on the 91 (Chelmsley Wood - Birmingham International Airport) recently
Apparently theyre booked on the 41/47 over Coventry
Quote from: the trainbasher on November 10, 2013, 05:42:53 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 10, 2013, 05:26:01 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on November 10, 2013, 02:00:33 PM
Have the primo's been withdrawn with all
the new stuff they have had I know they
have some new services
Nope Solo1, there still going, seen one on the 91 (Chelmsley Wood - Birmingham International Airport) recently
Apparently theyre booked on the 41/47 over Coventry
Not been Coventry in a long while now, but last time I went they were ran using the Minibuses. Would be nice to see Primos on the 41/7
wonder if 117 the mini they uses on the Coventry servive has been withdrawn then & use primo's on 91 & in Coventry on 41/47 service ,wonder if the other primo is still at Wolverhampton as was reported they are using a dart on there
Quote from: Solo1 on November 10, 2013, 06:44:51 PM
wonder if 117 the mini they uses on the Coventry servive has been withdrawn then & use primo's on 91 & in Coventry on 41/47 service ,wonder if the other primo is still at Wolverhampton as was reported they are using a dart on there
117 was out a couple of weeks ago on the 41/47 but I was told that it has been replaced on that duty is a Primo.
The VW/Bluebird 'YX06 CUW' was on the 91 today.
I also saw a Hybrid 63 plate Transit round Chelmsley Wood as well. The Ring and Ride logo on the side is green instead of blue. The logo on the bonnet was also different, 'Ring and Ride' in a white circle
MX10 BWZ - fleet number - 751
Quote from: John on November 12, 2013, 04:32:56 PM
I also saw a Hybrid 63 plate Transit round Chelmsley Wood as well. The Ring and Ride logo on the side is green instead of blue. The logo on the bonnet was also different, 'Ring and Ride' in a white circle
There's at least two at Bickenhill, BJ63AZW & 'Z. Neither carry fleet numbers yet.
whats the latest with the new solo SR's on service 19 in northfield
Dart 116? was on the 24 service earlier in Merry hill.
Quote from: Solo1 on November 14, 2013, 09:34:19 PM
whats the latest with the new solo SR's on service 19 in northfield
Give them chance, as I put up the thread, they are due to be delivered this week.
Anyone know the fleet No* for Solo YJ58 PGV
Nice to see that WMSNT have improved patronage on the 288 since taking over from Arriva:
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/stourbridge-288-bus-route-saved-6312586
Quote from: Stu on November 17, 2013, 03:15:11 PM
Nice to see that WMSNT have improved patronage on the 288 since taking over from Arriva:
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/stourbridge-288-bus-route-saved-6312586
I wonder if WMSNT can do the same for the 240? which is another 'ghost bus'
Quote from: Stu on November 17, 2013, 03:15:11 PM
Nice to see that WMSNT have improved patronage on the 288 since taking over from Arriva:
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/stourbridge-288-bus-route-saved-6312586
Sorry to say i don't believe that article, the 288 passes my house and if you see more than 10 people on it, you are really lucky.
Strangely when Hansons operated a few years ago, when they purchased the Solo for it, then nearly every journey would be full. That was in the days of hail & ride when the bus would pick you and drop you anywhere.
saw the 44 today
it's destination was "West Bomwich Bus Stn"
might need to be changed :)
and the 53 had an Optare Solo
YJ11 0JK
running on it also
Quote from: Winston on November 17, 2013, 03:32:17 PM
Quote from: Stu on November 17, 2013, 03:15:11 PM
Nice to see that WMSNT have improved patronage on the 288 since taking over from Arriva:
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/stourbridge-288-bus-route-saved-6312586
I wonder if WMSNT can do the same for the 240? which is another 'ghost bus'
A nice bit of spin in relation to the 288.The poor ridership numbers were as a direct result of the appalling way it was run after Midland/Arriva got hold of it.If you don`t send a bus to cover the route whats the chance of anyone catching it ?Still a lot to do to get it back to its best days.
As for the 240 Rigor mortis set in over twelve months ago and I don`t think it should have had a twenty four months contract awarded in the last round of tenders as the ridership numbers were pitiful.
Quote from: hartshill busman 724210 on November 18, 2013, 12:52:47 AM
Quote from: Winston on November 17, 2013, 03:32:17 PM
Quote from: Stu on November 17, 2013, 03:15:11 PM
Nice to see that WMSNT have improved patronage on the 288 since taking over from Arriva:
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/stourbridge-288-bus-route-saved-6312586
I wonder if WMSNT can do the same for the 240? which is another 'ghost bus'
A nice bit of spin in relation to the 288.The poor ridership numbers were as a direct result of the appalling way it was run after Midland/Arriva got hold of it.If you don`t send a bus to cover the route whats the chance of anyone catching it ?Still a lot to do to get it back to its best days.
As for the 240 Rigor mortis set in over twelve months ago and I don`t think it should have had a twenty four months contract awarded in the last round of tenders as the ridership numbers were pitiful.
In the current climate of funding cuts, you'd have thought the resources would have been better used elsewhere if the 240 is known to be a dead duck
Quote from: Winston on November 18, 2013, 01:08:53 AM
Quote from: hartshill busman 724210 on November 18, 2013, 12:52:47 AM
Quote from: Winston on November 17, 2013, 03:32:17 PM
Quote from: Stu on November 17, 2013, 03:15:11 PM
Nice to see that WMSNT have improved patronage on the 288 since taking over from Arriva:
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/stourbridge-288-bus-route-saved-6312586
I wonder if WMSNT can do the same for the 240? which is another 'ghost bus'
A nice bit of spin in relation to the 288.The poor ridership numbers were as a direct result of the appalling way it was run after Midland/Arriva got hold of it.If you don`t send a bus to cover the route whats the chance of anyone catching it ?Still a lot to do to get it back to its best days.
As for the 240 Rigor mortis set in over twelve months ago and I don`t think it should have had a twenty four months contract awarded in the last round of tenders as the ridership numbers were pitiful.
In the current climate of funding cuts, you'd have thought the resources would have been better used elsewhere if the 240 is known to be a dead duck
A lot of routes that Midland ran not long ago seem to struggle (288, 282, 298, 299). Also the 208 and 240 both struggled when Midland had them. I wonder how much the 213 214 could improve if someone else had the tender.
here is what buses are at each depot
wolverhampton primo service 61
wednesbury T13/6TAJ MX60BWZ 24 & 64
East b'Ham the other 2 primo's ,grey mini &117 service S16 41/7 in coventry & 91
North b'ham solo109-111 white dart KU52RXR & envrio MX10DXD sevice 167/8 & 425
south B'ham
wright dart102
Kx08HMD envrio 118-120 envrios Y? 10?? envrio SN59AXB/C
YK05CDU/V/ ? KX55RYZB YJ55PGV 105 YJ10MBF Yj11OYJK sevices 10/10H 19 38 39 40 240 288 298/9
Daf white KN54NLA
not sure if i have missed any
Quote from: Solo1 on November 18, 2013, 05:53:53 PM
here is what buses are at each depot
wolverhampton primo service 61
wednesbury T13/6TAJ MX60BWZ 24 & 64
East b'Ham the other 2 primo's ,grey mini &117 service S16 41/7 in coventry & 91
North b'ham solo109-111 white dart KU52RXR & envrio MX10DXD sevice 167/8 & 425
south B'ham
wright dart102
Kx08HMD envrio 118-120 envrios Y? 10?? envrio SN59AXB/C
YK05CDU/V/ ? KX55RYZB YJ55PGV 105 YJ10MBF Yj11OYJK sevices 10/10H 19 38 39 40 240 288 298/9
Daf white KN54NLA
not sure if i have missed any
Don't forget the 297!
Missed off 75. 44. 53. S1 From my posting last
Night
What was a one of the plaxon darts of wmsnt doing
Appox 6am. Going to city by matalan
Seen today near the East Birmingham depot Hybrids BJ63 AJO/AZZ
Quote from: Solo1 on November 19, 2013, 06:40:01 AM
What was a one of the plaxon darts of wmsnt doing
Appox 6am. Going to city by matalan
It was on it's its way to have a window replaced over aston sum where
1 new solo delivered out today on The 19 shall upload the pic when I'm home (:
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 20, 2013, 04:58:14 PM
1 new solo delivered out today on The 19 shall upload the pic when I'm home (:
YJ11 OJK;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/10966096103/
2 new additions to the wmsnt sn59axa out on the no 10
& kx58gtf out on the 19
Both white enviros
Quote from: Rainman13 on November 22, 2013, 11:19:49 AM
2 new additions to the wmsnt sn59axa out on the no 10
& kx58gtf out on the 19
Both white enviros
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/10996394734/
Quote from: Rainman13 on November 22, 2013, 11:19:49 AM
sn59axa out on the no 10
Another ex-Arriva West Brom Enviro200
Is that were the logo-less E200's have come from or is it just the one john ?
Quote from: OH25 on November 18, 2013, 12:15:42 AM
and the 53 had an Optare Solo
YJ11 0JK
running on it also
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 20, 2013, 07:26:15 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 20, 2013, 04:58:14 PM
1 new solo delivered out today on The 19 shall upload the pic when I'm home (:
YJ11 OJK;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/10966096103/
already mentioned it being on the 53 before
but I didn't have a picture ;D
New buses due to leave aston depot on sunday for South depot not sure of the time tho
Reg no's yd63uzv/w/x/y
New optare solo's out on there new route 19 on Monday morning (hopefully)
The new Solos were out today, I managed to photograph two while doing revenue checks on the 50
138 http://wmbusphotos.com/Ring+Ride/138.html
139 http://wmbusphotos.com/Ring+Ride/139.html
Tony
Quote from: Tony on November 25, 2013, 09:44:36 PM
The new Solos were out today, I managed to photograph two while doing revenue checks on the 50
138 http://wmbusphotos.com/Ring+Ride/138.html
139 http://wmbusphotos.com/Ring+Ride/139.html
Tony
They look very smart, and WMSNT is getting serious. I seen one in the flesh and they are impressive.
Quote from: Tony on November 25, 2013, 09:44:36 PM
The new Solos were out today, I managed to photograph two while doing revenue checks on the 50
138 http://wmbusphotos.com/Ring+Ride/138.html
139 http://wmbusphotos.com/Ring+Ride/139.html
Tony
Glad they can afford to spend on leather seats! I thought they were meant to be a charity you know...
Quote from: the trainbasher on November 25, 2013, 09:50:55 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 25, 2013, 09:44:36 PM
The new Solos were out today, I managed to photograph two while doing revenue checks on the 50
138 http://wmbusphotos.com/Ring+Ride/138.html
139 http://wmbusphotos.com/Ring+Ride/139.html
Tony
Glad they can afford to spend on leather seats! I thought they were meant to be a charity you know...
Centro put the route tender out which included an option for high-spec vehicles. WMSNT won the tender on the high spec option with these vehicles, so the price of the seats would have been included in the bid price.
They look very smart indeed.
Will YJ11 OJK get repainted into the WMSNT livery to match the others or left how it is ?
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 25, 2013, 10:44:56 PM
They look very smart indeed.
Will YJ11 OJK get repainted into the WMSNT livery to match the others or left how it is ?
Eventually all buses they are planning to keep will get painted into their livery
Quote from: Tony on November 25, 2013, 10:00:47 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on November 25, 2013, 09:50:55 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 25, 2013, 09:44:36 PM
The new Solos were out today, I managed to photograph two while doing revenue checks on the 50
138 http://wmbusphotos.com/Ring+Ride/138.html
139 http://wmbusphotos.com/Ring+Ride/139.html
Tony
Glad they can afford to spend on leather seats! I thought they were meant to be a charity you know...
Centro put the route tender out which included an option for high-spec vehicles. WMSNT won the tender on the high spec option with these vehicles, so the price of the seats would have been included in the bid price.
Centro need to save money, yet tenders are being put out for high spec vehicles? What a waste of money, surely the cheapest buses for the job would do?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 26, 2013, 06:35:56 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 25, 2013, 10:00:47 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on November 25, 2013, 09:50:55 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 25, 2013, 09:44:36 PM
The new Solos were out today, I managed to photograph two while doing revenue checks on the 50
138 http://wmbusphotos.com/Ring+Ride/138.html
139 http://wmbusphotos.com/Ring+Ride/139.html
Tony
Glad they can afford to spend on leather seats! I thought they were meant to be a charity you know...
Centro put the route tender out which included an option for high-spec vehicles. WMSNT won the tender on the high spec option with these vehicles, so the price of the seats would have been included in the bid price.
Centro need to save money, yet tenders are being put out for high spec vehicles? What a waste of money, surely the cheapest buses for the job would do?
Not always, VIP travel an all that
Quote from: Lukeee on November 26, 2013, 10:20:59 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 26, 2013, 06:35:56 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 25, 2013, 10:00:47 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on November 25, 2013, 09:50:55 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 25, 2013, 09:44:36 PM
The new Solos were out today, I managed to photograph two while doing revenue checks on the 50
138 http://wmbusphotos.com/Ring+Ride/138.html
139 http://wmbusphotos.com/Ring+Ride/139.html
Tony
Glad they can afford to spend on leather seats! I thought they were meant to be a charity you know...
Centro put the route tender out which included an option for high-spec vehicles. WMSNT won the tender on the high spec option with these vehicles, so the price of the seats would have been included in the bid price.
Centro need to save money, yet tenders are being put out for high spec vehicles? What a waste of money, surely the cheapest buses for the job would do?
Not always, VIP travel an all that
Exactly, and you get what you pay for......
Solo SR 136 on the 39H this morning - didn't see what reg it was so as its not on fleetlist is this new?
Wmsnt are having 4 new solo sr's for the 19
service In northfield
Seen recently around East Birmingham are BJ63 AZO/AZW/AZX/AZZ new hybrids all without any fleet numbers.
Have they got a website? WMSNT?
Quote from: Sh4166 on November 28, 2013, 06:59:34 PM
Have they got a website? WMSNT?
http://www.busservices.wmsnt.org/
Used the 19 today, a fairly ok patronage, new Solo's are fantastic inside though with all Optare products I question the build quality, never have I known a route with quite so many speed humps! Makes the NXWM 222 bumps round Russels Hall seem really tame
Friendly drivers who picked up and stopped wherever you wanted as well
Ex Scragg's Primo (http://www.flickr.com/photos/roysbuses/8027960267/) (KX08 HMC) on the 39/A
New Solo 138 on 297 last night
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 04, 2013, 11:42:35 PM
New Solo 138 on 297 last night
Interesting! Is this the first time you saw? The reason why I ask, because I saw new solo numerous time going through 39 then 99 route and that is at around 6.30pm
Quote from: Sayeed_M on December 05, 2013, 02:27:15 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 04, 2013, 11:42:35 PM
New Solo 138 on 297 last night
Interesting! Is this the first time you saw? The reason why I ask, because I saw new solo numerous time going through 39 then 99 route and that is at around 6.30pm
One thing I have noticed is that the 297 bus usually comes off one of the south Birmingham routes, 39 I think
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 05, 2013, 04:49:58 PM
One thing I have noticed is that the 297 bus usually comes off one of the south Birmingham routes, 39 I think
Thanks!
About 39, probably, the last journey it terminates at Worlds End at 17.50
seen today at east depot,
KX57FMC (WHITE NO IDENTIFICATION)
KX59GKV 119
KX08HMA (WHITE NO IDENTIFICATION)
BJ63BCY RING AND RIDE (NO NUMBER)
seen today at Aston
V946DNE, KX05CDX (125) KX59CYZ (118) YAZ8644 (102) KX57FME (120), Plus 2 new with no reg.
We could do with a new fleet list from them !!
New addition - E200 KX59 CJJ(?) in all yellow was on the 19
116 (http://wmbusphotos.com/Ring+Ride/116.html) on the 10/H
They could've done something with that livery. I'm kind of against that white background logo'd
Seen 2 of the new Hybird Ford Transits with WMSNT in Coventry today, nice little buses they are :)
Quote from: Ken Taylor on December 10, 2013, 02:09:24 PM
seen today at Aston
V946DNE, KX05CDX (125) KX59CYZ (118) YAZ8644 (102) KX57FME (120), Plus 2 new with no reg.
We could do with a new fleet list from them !!
I have been in contact again today. They are still waiting for 7 of the new Ford Transits, should be here in the next two weeks, they will send me a fleet list when they have all been registered.
They have also just bought another 6 solos and 6 primos
Quote from: Tony on December 12, 2013, 04:06:45 PM
Quote from: Ken Taylor on December 10, 2013, 02:09:24 PM
seen today at Aston
V946DNE, KX05CDX (125) KX59CYZ (118) YAZ8644 (102) KX57FME (120), Plus 2 new with no reg.
We could do with a new fleet list from them !!
I have been in contact again today. They are still waiting for 7 of the new Ford Transits, should be here in the next two weeks, they will send me a fleet list when they have all been registered.
They have also just bought another 6 solos and 6 primos
Any idea what, if any, new routes WMSNT are getting?
seen today at Northfield
YJ10EYR (105), YD63UZY (137), UZX (139), UZW (136), SN59AXB/AXC, 1130, 1202, KXO8HMF,YKO5CDV (129) (THATS WHAT I WROTE DOWN, SHOWING CDV IN FLEET LIST !!)
AT HARBORNE
KX55RYZ, KX57FME (120)
SORRY 129 SHOWING YK05CDF IN FLEET LIST
A white Enviro200 is tonight's 297 bus
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 17, 2013, 08:17:05 PM
A white Enviro200 is tonight's 297 bus
Any idea which one?
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 17, 2013, 08:17:05 PM
A white Enviro200 is tonight's 297 bus
Is the 297 usually allocated the same bus (Was a Solo) or does it vary?
WMSNT had KX58GTF on the 24 yesterday
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomsbusphotos/11407796614/
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 17, 2013, 08:19:40 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 17, 2013, 08:17:05 PM
A white Enviro200 is tonight's 297 bus
Is the 297 usually allocated the same bus (Was a Solo) or does it vary?
It used to be Solo 105 (YJ10 EYR) every night, but can get anything now, first white E200 I've seen on there. I can't remember the number though, sorry, but it wasn't one I recognised
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 17, 2013, 08:28:00 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 17, 2013, 08:19:40 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 17, 2013, 08:17:05 PM
A white Enviro200 is tonight's 297 bus
Is the 297 usually allocated the same bus (Was a Solo) or does it vary?
It used to be Solo 105 (YJ10 EYR) every night, but can get anything now, first white E200 I've seen on there. I can't remember the number though, sorry, but it wasn't one I recognised
Thought it was 105 but couldn't remember the exact fleetnumber :) Thanks Matt :) Which departure did you see it on btw?
It was the 19:00 from Halesowen :)
All white E200 KX08 UXU - 167/8
At south depot
New arrivals
Kx08hma
Kx08hmc
Kx08hnj
White plaxton primos
Kx59gjj
Yellow enviro 200
Sn59axa
White enviro 200
Quote from: Rainman13 on December 18, 2013, 08:22:00 PM
At south depot
New arrivals
Kx08hma
Kx08hmc
Kx08hnj
White plaxton primos
Kx59gjj
Yellow enviro 200
Sn59axa
White enviro 200
Hi Rainman
Can you check you notes re KX59 GJJ, this is a honda civiv car.
SN59 AXA cannot keep away, another of the ex Arriva West Bromwich vehicles
i THINK IT'S kx59 cjj
Just checked my notes it's KX09GJJ AD Enviro 200
yx08uxu (white) on 167
Last week saw 10H using normal route (via Ladywood) but saw it yesterday, it goes through Broad Street and bus stops flags are also updated as well. Not aware of the changes ???
Quote from: Sayeed_M on December 19, 2013, 09:55:18 PM
Last week saw 10H using normal route (via Ladywood) but saw it yesterday, it goes through Broad Street and bus stops flags are also updated as well. Not aware of the changes ???
Thinks its been using Broad Street for a while now, I haven't seen one in Ladywood since the summer
New addition to fleet
kX08OLE
White plaxton primo
Seen a white enviro earlier around
Y13 Txx (cant remember last bit) :(
Quote from: vinh1000 on December 20, 2013, 01:47:50 PM
Seen a white enviro earlier around
Y13 Txx (cant remember last bit) :(
There is 'T13 GAJ', maybe that one? (White Enviro200 with black light surrounds). Is usually on the 24 in Merry Hill.
What route was it on?
Quote from: John on December 20, 2013, 03:22:02 PM
Quote from: vinh1000 on December 20, 2013, 01:47:50 PM
Seen a white enviro earlier around
Y13 Txx (cant remember last bit) :(
There is 'T13 GAJ', maybe that one? (White Enviro200 with black light surrounds). Is usually on the 24 in Merry Hill.
What route was it on?
Not In Service
Believe it was white all round inc. the surrounds
Here's KX08 HMC at Stourbridge:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/11477299766/in/photostream/
Quote from: 4006 on December 21, 2013, 11:08:32 AM
Here's KX08 HMC at Stourbridge:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/11477299766/in/photostream/
What size engine is in that?
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 21, 2013, 02:08:11 PM
Quote from: 4006 on December 21, 2013, 11:08:32 AM
Here's KX08 HMC at Stourbridge:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/11477299766/in/photostream/
What size engine is in that?
4 Ltr I Believe
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 21, 2013, 02:08:11 PM
Quote from: 4006 on December 21, 2013, 11:08:32 AM
Here's KX08 HMC at Stourbridge:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/11477299766/in/photostream/
What size engine is in that?
4462cc diesel, according to my vehicle reg lookup.
A New optare solo gunna be on the 35a in Walsall on Sunday
Due in Walsall about half past every hour from 1130 till 1630
Be a gud one for anyone wanting pictures of it
I ask again, has anyone seen r&r 522 lately ??. It is the only one I have not seen up to 1217 !!
thanks
Quote from: Ken Taylor on December 21, 2013, 06:08:00 PM
I ask again, has anyone seen r&r 522 lately ??. It is the only one I have not seen up to 1217 !!
thanks
I last photographed it in July. It was retaxed in August
I saw it leaving Aston depot a couple of weeks ago presumably doing special needs school duty as it left between14:30 & app 15:00
139, YD63UZX on the 35A over Walsall today
139 isn't that a south birmingham ( frankley) bus
A little bit out if it's way
What wrong with wednsebury running the
Sunday 35a service in Walsall it would b a lot cheaper
fuel wise
seen today, YJ59PGV 128, YD63UZW 136, YD63UZY 137, YD63UZV 138, YD63UZX 139
One of the new optare solos are out on the 35A today.
Yeah it's YD63UZX 139 again
Here is the yellow envrio with wmsnt KX09GJJ http://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/11608760405/
Quote from: Solo1 on December 28, 2013, 07:35:23 PM
Here is the yellow envrio with wmsnt KX09GJJ http://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/11608760405/
Ex Bakerbus
Quote from: Ken Taylor on December 19, 2013, 03:01:34 PM
yx08uxu (white) on 167
Had a look today to see if it was on
but had 2 solos & mx10 on there wonder if it has gone
back or wS just in depot
Stourbridge services 240 288 298/9'was.
Today in the hands of White enviros photos to
Follow later
here are the enviros on the Stourbridge services today instead of the solos http://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/11654016933/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/11653999033/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/11653972863/
Those are Enterprise Plasmas, Not Enviro200s. Good pics anyhow :)
Quote from: Solo1 on December 30, 2013, 09:04:49 PM
here are the enviros on the Stourbridge services today instead of the solos http://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/11654016933/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/11653999033/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/11653972863/
They're Plaxton Primos-technically they are Enterprise Primos with a Plaxton badge.
Thanks normally I see envrios forgot they
were due
Quote from: DiamondDart on December 30, 2013, 09:07:28 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on December 30, 2013, 09:04:49 PM
here are the enviros on the Stourbridge services today instead of the solos http://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/11654016933/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/11653999033/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/11653972863/
They're Plaxton Primos-technically they are Enterprise Primos with a Plaxton badge.
They are Plaxton Primos, Primo is the name of the body, the Chassis is an Enterprise Plasma
No such thing as an Enterprise Primo
What do they use on 91 & on Friday as the grey mini I belive is
used on S16 what do they use
Any one seen the wrights darts & plaxton darts .
Just seen on Chipperfield Road near the Hunters Moon Hybrid BJ63 AZW carrying fleet number 1312 on the rear door
The wmsnt enviro 200 ex arrival still has all the arriva stickers inside lol :-)
The darts did go to aston about a month ago
I believe they have now left the company
Hybrid BJ63 BCY seen in Shard End this afternoon
Quote from: Rainman13 on January 03, 2014, 02:34:46 PM
The darts did go to aston about a month ago
I believe they have now left the company
is that all the darts 2 wright ones & 3 plaxton ones or just some
There all parked up at aston sin them today
I don't think there not going back out in service
I can confirm that 129 is YK05CDV
Had a look on the 10 tonight to see if the large
White one was out no luck it was 2 envrios
What has happened to the 3 solos that have
been used in Stourbridge as they are now
using White primos on 240 288 298/9
YD63UZW - 136, YD63UZY - 137, YJ58PGV - 128, YK05CDV - 125
SORRY YK05CDV - 129, YK05CDX - 125
They could use a taxi on the 240 lol
seen today at Aston, 522 (at last), Y713CCA 116, KX05CDX 125, T16GAJ 126, KX08DLC ( WHITE ) V946DNB 114, BJ63BJZ, WN63GMG, (no fleet nos)
Can anyone tell me which routes the PRONTO buses are working ?? thanks
On Wednesday new hybrid WN63 GMF was seen entering Aston depot & WN63 GME was seen passing Rotala depot presumably on delivery.
Quote from: broma1k on January 09, 2014, 08:17:17 PM
On Wednesday new hybrid WN63 GMF was seen entering Aston depot & WN63 GME was seen passing Rotala depot presumably on delivery.
Last time I asked there were still 5 outstanding, when they arrive I will finally get the fleetlist I have been promised to update the main site. Hopefully that was one of them!
Seen today at East depot, YX08FLA 117, KX08UXU (WHITE), BJ63AZV 1311
Yesterday 126 was parked in the short stay car park at Cradley Heath Interchange, don't know why it was there, but surely buses shouldn't be allowed to park there.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 11, 2014, 06:47:13 PM
Yesterday 126 was parked in the short stay car park at Cradley Heath Interchange, don't know why it was there, but surely buses shouldn't be allowed to park there.
Wouldn't it have been there for the 240?
Quote from: Winston on January 11, 2014, 08:45:18 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 11, 2014, 06:47:13 PM
Yesterday 126 was parked in the short stay car park at Cradley Heath Interchange, don't know why it was there, but surely buses shouldn't be allowed to park there.
Wouldn't it have been there for the 240?
It could have been, but why park in the short stay car park and not park up in the bus station itself.
seen today in Coventry, BJ63BNU - 1302, BJ63AZP - 1308, BJ63AZU - 1309
The 3 at Coventry were all FORD TRANSIT
1311 in Olton this evening.
Hybrid 136 is on the 297. Has the allocation changed since December as last few times I've seen the 297 it's been solo 105 or 129
Quote from: the trainbasher on January 18, 2014, 08:35:25 PM
Hybrid 136 is on the 297. Has the allocation changed since December as last few times I've seen the 297 it's been solo 105 or 129
Not a hybrid!
Quote from: Tony on January 18, 2014, 08:39:56 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on January 18, 2014, 08:35:25 PM
Hybrid 136 is on the 297. Has the allocation changed since December as last few times I've seen the 297 it's been solo 105 or 129
Not a hybrid!
Doh! Hybrids on the mind I've got today! :-( it's them hybrid Ring and Ride vehicles (saw a pair in Coventry earlier mind you!) playing silly with my mind tonight!
WMSNT have sent me a new fleetlist today
I have updated the one on my website to match
http://wmbusphotos.com/Ring+Ride/fleetlist.html
There are still 6 of the 30 Ford Transit to identify There are also many fleetnumbers not on the fleetlist. I have put all 'Service bus' vehicles at the beginning of the list. The new Ford Transits are at the end. Any missing information gratefully received
Blue 106 in Coventry on 47 today.
White E200 KX57 FMC (doesn't seem to have a fleet number) seen in Wolverhampton this morning on the 61 to Gold thorn Park. The route is usually operated by Plaxton Primo 107
does anyone know what the KP07KPL - KRF Plaxton Prontos B16FL work please ?? (there are 11 of them)
KP07KPL/PP/PT/PU/PZ/KRF iv'e seen coming out from Aston most afternoons between 14:30-15:30
thanks broma1k
didn't know 137 has Wi-Fi ;D
what others have it?
On Wednesday there was an white E200 on the 91, caught my eye as I was coming out the Shopping Centre
Also has the white DAF gone now ? not seen it on the 10 for a while ?
Bone shaker Primo KX08OLE was on the 297 earlier and by gosh did it rattle...it had more rattles than a bus full of babies!
Quote from: OH25 on January 25, 2014, 09:45:29 PM
didn't know 137 has Wi-Fi ;D
what others have it?
105,136,137,138,139
The 5 that do the 19
why has wmsnt gone & brought new buses I know they are electric hybrid buses but with Centro having to cut costs & wmsnt are one of the areas for saving wouldn't it of been best to of waited till the outcome of the centro budget meeting first
Quote from: Rainman13 on January 26, 2014, 09:35:19 AM
Quote from: OH25 on January 25, 2014, 09:45:29 PM
didn't know 137 has Wi-Fi ;D
what others have it?
105,136,137,138,139
The 5 that do the 19
I was on 137 when it was doing the 53
Once again a WMSNT bus was blocking the short stay car park at Cradley Heath Interchange today.
seen one of their Ring and Ride Electric Hybrids today :)
2new optare solos on 35 and 41 in Walsall
YD63UZX (139)
YD63UZV (138)
They look brand new clean and tidy inside and out
Even the wheels were shining
Quote from: Rainman13 on February 02, 2014, 12:00:27 PM
2new optare solos on 35 and 41 in Walsall
YD63UZX (139)
YD63UZV (138)
They look brand new clean and tidy inside and out
Even the wheels were shining
The Solo SR's have been working the Sunday 35 for some time.
### 125 transferred to aston a while ago I believe
And I think the 35-41 are run by south depot because there short
Of drivers
Must admit you have to congratulate Councilor Richard Worrall of Walsall for persevering with the Sunday 35.
(Some of his allowance went towards funding the journeys!)
seen at the new Frankley out station on Saturday were,
KX07KPR, KX05CDU, SN59AXA/AXB/AXC KX08OLE, KX08HMR, KX59CYZ, 1102
HAS ANYONE SEEN 1098, 10110, (BOTH OFF ASTON) LATELY ??
THANKS FOR ANY INFO
Spotted KX08 OLC on the 425 at Scott Arms. Cant see it in fleet list.
Quote from: Ken Taylor on February 03, 2014, 02:03:40 PM
seen at the new Frankley out station on Saturday were,
KX07KPR, KX05CDU, SN59AXA/AXB/AXC KX08OLE, KX08HMR, KX59CYZ, 1102
HAS ANYONE SEEN 1098, 10110, (BOTH OFF ASTON) LATELY ??
THANKS FOR ANY INFO
What type of vehicle is KX05 CDU?
Quote from: settlerman on February 03, 2014, 05:09:58 PM
Quote from: Ken Taylor on February 03, 2014, 02:03:40 PM
seen at the new Frankley out station on Saturday were,
KX07KPR, KX05CDU, SN59AXA/AXB/AXC KX08OLE, KX08HMR, KX59CYZ, 1102
HAS ANYONE SEEN 1098, 10110, (BOTH OFF ASTON) LATELY ??
THANKS FOR ANY INFO
What type of vehicle is KX05 CDU?
Optare Solo
Quote from: John on February 03, 2014, 05:13:31 PM
Quote from: settlerman on February 03, 2014, 05:09:58 PM
Quote from: Ken Taylor on February 03, 2014, 02:03:40 PM
seen at the new Frankley out station on Saturday were,
KX07KPR, KX05CDU, SN59AXA/AXB/AXC KX08OLE, KX08HMR, KX59CYZ, 1102
HAS ANYONE SEEN 1098, 10110, (BOTH OFF ASTON) LATELY ??
THANKS FOR ANY INFO
What type of vehicle is KX05 CDU?
Optare Solo
[/quote
YK05 CDU is also listed as an Optare Solo. Is it just coincidence that they are both CDU's or is the fleet list wrong?
my guess is that YK05CDU is wrong and should be KX05CDU
Not heard of a new Frankley outstation.Any details please.
Quote from: settlerman on February 03, 2014, 04:55:06 PM
Spotted KX08 OLC on the 425 at Scott Arms. Cant see it in fleet list.
KX08 OLC is not on the fleetlist supplied to me by the company last week, so looks like another addition to the fleet. It's another Dawson Rentals Plaxton Primo which has had no reports with any operator for two and a half years, so looks like it has been hiding in a field somewhere
Frankley outstation in trading estate on ORMOND ROAD (not far from main depot)
1330 = WN63GMG
Thanks for the depot info
Where was 1330 seen please ??
Sorry for the late posting.KX07 KNW Enterprise Plasma seen at the Hunters Moon on Monday
New addition to south garage (frankley)
KX57FMD white enviro
Looks as new
Seen today at Northfield & later at Frankley depot were
Northfield.
128/136/138/139,KX08 HMD,SN59 AXA/AXB/AXC,1326(BJ63 AZR),1328(WN63 GLZ)
Frankley Depot(New Arrivals)
KX56 KXL,KX07 KPO/KPR/KRD.1324(BJ63 BDF,1325(BJ63BCX),1326(WN63 GMO),1329(BJ63BCZ),1330(WN63 GMG)
Had a look along Ormond Road & failed to find the outstation reported here.
Returning on the Bristol Road saw WX07 OBL could this be a new aquisition.?
Quote from: broma1k on February 13, 2014, 07:59:13 PM
Seen today at Northfield & later at Frankley depot were
Northfield.
128/136/138/139,KX08 HMD,SN59 AXA/AXB/AXC,1326(BJ63 AZR),1328(WN63 GLZ)
Frankley Depot(New Arrivals)
KX56 KXL,KX07 KPO/KPR/KRD.1324(BJ63 BDF,1325(BJ63BCX),1326(WN63 GMO),1329(BJ63BCZ),1330(WN63 GMG)
Had a look along Ormond Road & failed to find the outstation reported here.
Returning on the Bristol Road saw WX07 OBL could this be a new aquisition.?
I think you have a mis read or mistyped registration there Ken, WX07 OBL is a Victory Hammer (Motorcycle). It is going to be a WX
57;
WX57 OBL is a Mercedes last reported with London Borough of Barnet (so could be acquired)
WX57 OBC is on the WMSNT fleetlist
Cheers Tony,just checked my notes & yes that is what I wrote down.Engage brain before typing in future.
the out station for south is on a small trading estate on Ormond road (went there !!) left out of Arden Road, 50yds left into T.E.
SORRY !! BAD INFO. the south outstation is as follows (I mis-read the a-z, not an area I know)
left out of NEW STRRET INTO TAY ROAD, 50yds LEFT INTO FRANKLEY T.E.
WMSNT UNIT 15
today it was locked shut !!
Thanks for that found it on Google maps it's off Frogmill Road.
On the 64 today was one off the envrios from southbirmingham in full
Wmsnt livery
Quote from: Solo1 on February 15, 2014, 08:28:08 PM
On the 64 today was one off the envrios from southbirmingham in full
Wmsnt livery
U will find it is from wednesbury depot
Either 118 KX59CYZ on loan from south depot
Or
126 T16GAJ wednesbury depot bus
There the 2 enviros in wmsnt there
that was the one wednesbury depot has T13/6GAJ the yellow one & a 60 reg as a guess the driver of 64 must be on holiday & a driver from south Birmingham, covers .This happened in Wolverhampton a while back a south Birmingham bus as used don't the depot have spare drivers
rather than having to send from south Birmingham
Quote from: Solo1 on February 16, 2014, 10:47:41 PM
that was the one wednesbury depot has T13/6GAJ the yellow one & a 60 reg as a guess the driver of 64 must be on holiday & a driver from south Birmingham, covers .This happened in Wolverhampton a while back a south Birmingham bus as used don't the depot have spare drivers
rather than having to send from south Birmingham
Quote from: Rainman13 on February 16, 2014, 09:21:00 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on February 15, 2014, 08:28:08 PM
On the 64 today was one off the envrios from southbirmingham in full
Wmsnt livery
U will find it is from wednesbury depot
Either 118 KX59CYZ on loan from south depot
Or
126 T16GAJ wednesbury depot bus
There the 2 enviros in wmsnt there
Quote from: Solo1 on February 15, 2014, 08:28:08 PM
On the 64 today was one off the envrios from southbirmingham in full
Wmsnt livery
It's defiantly a temp loan move it's gunna be back at south depot soon
The bus ent been at south for a week or two
Definatly a wednesbury employee driving it
And not no one from south
Today there was
136 and 139 on the 35-41 in Walsall
And
105 and 137 on the 53 west brom
So only 4 buses out in service
No KX59CYZ 118
looks like wednsbury depot is closed on Sunday
with south Birmingham sending the buses to
do the services unless there is another reason
Quote from: Solo1 on February 16, 2014, 11:28:06 PM
looks like wednsbury depot is closed on Sunday
with south Birmingham sending the buses to
do the services unless there is another reason
why is wednesbury depot closed on sunday for ?
I was saying why is south birmingham running the Sunday services in
Walsall when wednesbury is down the road is closed or another reason
allocations know as at 24/2/14
1301 NORTH, 1302-9 COVENTRY, 1311/12 EAST, 1323/24/28 SOUTH
if anyone has seen any other 63 reg can you say where ?? it may help with depot
1320 is at east,1324-30 inc are at Frankley
Quote from: broma1k on February 25, 2014, 08:53:45 PM
1320 is at east,1324-30 inc are at Frankley
And 1331 is at frankley also
The last in the new hybrid transits
Visited Coventry on Tuesday & the depot there last time consisted of 2 units in the trading estate.Now they are using the fourth unit in the estate as well & seem to have more work as the yard was full of older vehicles last seen working from Aston.Will publish the list shortly.
Seen at Coventry between 14:25 & 16:00 Tuesday were
347/350/352/353/361/366/367/369
416/417
534/536
805/813/846
1105/1105/1110
1303/1305/1306/1307/1308/1309
& seen working in the town centre was 106.
has anyone seen pronto WX57OBB/OBL (or OBC)
thanks
I have seen WX57 OBB a few times around by the Hunters Moon
I have seen WX57 OBL on the Bristol Road a couple of weeks ago near Selly Oak.
122 KX08HMF now on loan at wednesbury
Not sure which route it's on tho
The only 63 plate Iveco Daily appears to do a job on the Walsall Road
http://wmbusphotos.com/Ring+Ride/WNSNTBJ62BJZ.html
were the 63 reg buses at Coventry in the town or at the depot please ??
thanks
The vehicles at Coventry were seen entering & leaving the depot.We were informed on our last visit the driver changeover occurs about 15:30 in the afternoon,so the ring & ride fleet come in to do the changeover.
New hybrids WN63 GME & BJ63 GLY seen this afternoon at Aston depot.
Quote from: broma1k on February 28, 2014, 08:26:26 PM
New hybrids WN63 GME & BJ63 GLY seen this afternoon at Aston depot.
I think the second registration has a typo. BJ63 GLY is a Mercedes E220 4 door saloon
SEEN TODAY AT SOUTH DEPOT,
KX07KRD,KPR,KPO. 1327 - WN63GMO, 1329 - BJ63BCZ, 1330 - WN63GMG
KX52RXR now at frankley depot (Tay road)
White Dennis (ex diamond)
Seen on the 39h from bournville college to bearwood
At 1615 outside bournville college
Quote from: Rainman13 on March 03, 2014, 07:19:32 PM
KX52RXR now at frankley depot (Tay road)
White Dennis (ex diamond)
Seen on the 39h from bournville college to bearwood
At 1615 outside bournville college
I think you mean KU52 RXR, but this was never with Diamond.
seen today at Coventry depot
1303,1306,1308,1302,1305,1309 and WU63UYZ (NO FLEET NO) WU63UZY 1307, KX56UBY, KX56HCH
HAS ANYONE SEEN, 1229 - VU62GHB, 1231 - VX62HFR, 1232 - VU62HFM, LATELY ?? (if so where ??)
thanks
1229/31/32 are all believed to be Wednesfield vehicles,
1229 is off Wolverhampton !!
KU52 RYR on the 10H today
Think someone could do with having a look at 120, followed it today on the 10H and everytime it pulled away from a stop, a cloud of grey smoke was emmitted from the exhaust.
saw 1229 today in Wolverhampton, just need 1231/32 now.
does anyone know the depot allocations of BJ63BDU,WN63GME/GLV/GLY please
thanks
BJ63 BDU is 1331 & according to an earlier post is from Frankley
I have seen WN63 GLY/GME in service at Aston
Primo - 75 (Usually a Solo)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/13105180733/
122 has been on on the 61 (Wolverhampton-Goldthorn Park Circular) this week. Seen today at various points in Wolverhampton City Centre
look as if the 98 is re-numbered 28A:
CB000675/B520 WMSNT (Accessible Transport Services) Ltd, 80 Park
Road, Aston, Birmingham, B6 5PL.
From : Small Heath
To : Ward End
No : 28A
Service Type : Normal Stopping
Effective date : 27/04/2014
Other details : Monday to Saturday
what is solo 129 doing heading towards aston i thought this was a south B'ham bus had on hire to birmingham city council
Ive heard wmsnt are having 5 nearly new enviro 200
First ones due today or tomorrow
Quote from: Rainman13 on March 27, 2014, 12:51:35 PM
Ive heard wmsnt are having 5 nearly new enviro 200
First ones due today or tomorrow
Any news where are they going to? garage? :)
New arrival MX11 CZL at Aston this afternoon & whilst I was there MX11 CZK arrived also seen were KX08 OLB/OLC ,OLB appeared to be in service.
As well as MX11CZK/L & KX08 OLB/C above the full log seen at Aston was
400/06/07/10/12/21.
502/04/06/10/22/26/38/46/59/67
600/02/03/04/08/10/14/15/21/23/27.
704/05/12/21/22/23/26.
800/02/07/11/16/17/23/35/37.
908/14/15/16/17/18/19/20/21/25.
1021/22/27/29/33/34/56/83/90/93/94/97/98/99.
1120/29,10101,WN63 GLV.
T1,KX07 KPP/KPT/KPU/KPZ/KRF.
125
KU52RXR was working out of Wednesbury today on the 24.
MX11CZK or CZL
Not sure which one,
is out on the no 10
Operating out of south depot (Tay rd)
Quote from: Rainman13 on April 03, 2014, 12:21:31 PM
MX11CZK or CZL
Not sure which one,
is out on the no 10
Operating out of south depot (Tay rd)
I've just seen CZK on Broad St on the 10H
Photo: https://www.flickr.com/photos/101550299@N05/13610368253/
My 19 has just gone down "Amwell Grove" gaining one or two funny looks
MX11CZL now in WMSNT livery no fleet number as yet tho
######====######
MX11CZK now repainted also in WMSNT livery
Both MX11CZK/CZL both at Tay rd (south depot)
CZK on Stourbridge (298/299) tomorrow
CZL on 39/39A tomorrow
118 was out on 10h today didn't see what
was the other bus as was passing navigation st
out today on the 40 was solo 110 I thought that was at east Birmingham or Aston as I saw it a while back in Erdington on 167/8 a long time back then the 39/a was solo it was at south Birmingham so which depot runs the 40
MX11CZL now in WMSNT livery no fleet number as yet tho
######====######
MX11CZK now repainted also in WMSNT livery
Both MX11CZK/CZL both at Tay rd (south depot)
CZK on Stourbridge (298/299) tomorrow
CZL on 39/39A tomorrow
MX11CZK on the 298 299 in Stourbridge
Looking as new with its new coat of paint
No fleet numbers tho
Solo 125 ever used to do a bus service
when it's not used for the adult services & where
Does it run from/to
& at what times as I need a photo
of that one
It's in Stourbridge at 22 and 52 every hour till 1630 ish
On 24 in Dudley was Kx08OLE I thought
that was bus was a south birminham one
as it's been on the Sturbridge services
Quote from: Solo1 on April 23, 2014, 05:30:25 PM
On 24 in Dudley was Kx08OLE I thought
that was bus was a south birminham one
as it's been on the Sturbridge services
Ole is a south bus
It's on loan short term
T16GAJ (126)
Is at south with rtc damage (rear damage)
May explain the rare working
this bus does the day care centre contract that VIP had https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/13963495416/
MX11CZL
On the 298 299 today
Freshly painted
Leaves Stourbridge at 22 & 52 every hour
Stands c & d in the bus station
here is the above bus https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/13999258254/
Quote from: Rainman13 on March 03, 2014, 07:19:32 PM
KX52RXR now at frankley depot (Tay road)
White Dennis (ex diamond)
Seen on the 39h from bournville college to bearwood
At 1615 outside bournville college
What is now used on 425 service if the White dart is at south birmingham
KX08OLB
Plaxton primo
Now in wmsnt livery
Not sure what route it's on
It was around aston earlier not in service
Quote from: Rainman13 on April 28, 2014, 01:25:20 PM
KX08OLB
Plaxton primo
Now in wmsnt livery
Not sure what route it's on
It was around aston earlier not in service
I didn't see the plate but there was a Plaxton Primo on the 53 yesterday, I got on it at 3:10 from Bearwood
what happened to the 17.30 424 ex city as it was a no show
KX08OLB
On the 10-10h today
Freshly repainted looks really nice (for a primo anyway)
What buses are normally on 10/10H I saw KX08HMD on there
KX11 CZK/L running on the new 28a Fox & Goose-Bordesley service today.
here is one of the latest buses with WMSNT https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/14055686656/ this was with Plymouth park &ride also thurmaston bus
Quote from: Solo1 on May 01, 2014, 06:33:15 AM
here is one of the latest buses with WMSNT https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/14055686656/ this was with Plymouth park &ride also thurmaston bus
I'm pretty sure that's the bus I saw yesterday afternoon, parked in the same place displaying '39C Boxey via Redditch'
Quote from: John on May 01, 2014, 09:07:05 AM
Quote from: Solo1 on May 01, 2014, 06:33:15 AM
here is one of the latest buses with WMSNT https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/14055686656/ this was with Plymouth park &ride also thurmaston bus
I'm pretty sure that's the bus I saw yesterday afternoon, parked in the same place displaying '39C Boxey via Redditch'
What is the other bus used on. 424
Kx08olb newly painted plaxton primo
Broke down on quint on road west
& 4pm
Eventually towed away by RS recovery at 1700
Don't no what was wrong with it tho
Quote from: Rainman13 on April 30, 2014, 10:17:34 AM
KX08OLB
On the 10-10h today
Freshly repainted looks really nice (for a primo anyway)
here is the primo in wmsnt livery with a very friendly driver https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/14098873554/
one of the buses on service 424 was this envrio on today https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/13911784307/in/photostream/
ku52 rxf on there today
Quote from: vinh1000 on May 08, 2014, 02:11:46 PM
ku52 rxf on there today
i think u mean KU52RXR unless its a new one they have
One of the plain white Enviro200s on the 424 today (passengers on board), was displaying 10H, seen it in Perry Barr
Primo 106 on 28a just left hob moor rd to fox &
Goose a few minutes ago
can anyone tell me where the following are off or what routes they work,
WX57OBC, KX08OLB,KX59CYW, MX11CZL,
Thanks
KX08OLB , 10H Aston
,KX59CYW 424 Aston
MX11CZL 28A East Birmingham
Quote from: Tony on December 18, 2013, 08:33:47 PM
Quote from: Rainman13 on December 18, 2013, 08:22:00 PM
At south depot
New arrivals
Kx08hma
Kx08hmc
Kx08hnj
White plaxton primos
Kx59gjj
Yellow enviro 200
Sn59axa
White enviro 200
Hi Rainman
Can you check you notes re KX59 GJJ, this is a honda civiv car.
SN59 AXA cannot keep away, another of the ex Arriva West Bromwich vehicles
Has anybody seen KX08HNJ after this report? it seems an elusive vehicle
not seen by me !!
I post that at 21:03 and get a full fleetlist through from WMSNT at 21:05! Yes it does exist!
are there any 2014 reg buses in the fleet list ??
Quote from: Ken Taylor on May 16, 2014, 06:23:33 PM
are there any 2014 reg buses in the fleet list ??
Yes. Correct as of end of April. Will update the one on main site between now and Sunday
KX08 HMF was on the 19 today for anyone interested.
I have updated the fleet list on the main site to match that supplied by the company including allocations, correct as at 29/4/14, any obvious mistakes please put in bugs & errors and when I have my next purge correcting mistakes they will be picked up
http://wmbusphotos.com/Ring+Ride/fleetlist.html
Quote from: Tony on May 15, 2014, 09:03:28 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 18, 2013, 08:33:47 PM
Quote from: Rainman13 on December 18, 2013, 08:22:00 PM
At south depot
New arrivals
Kx08hma
Kx08hmc
Kx08hnj
White plaxton primos
Kx59gjj
Yellow enviro 200
Sn59axa
White enviro 200
Hi Rainman
Can you check you notes re KX59 GJJ, this is a honda civiv car
SN59 AXA cannot keep away, another of the ex Arriva West Bromwich vehicles
Has anybody seen KX08HNJ after this report? it seems an elusive vehicle
The above KX08HNJ I wad told is in adult services spare at weekends
Thanks for the update tony and the explanation regarding Runcorn depot.
137 YD63UZY
It looks as tho it's been in the wars
It had that massive accident on the n/s
From the passenger doors back 3pannel
It now been repaired/replaced.
Now it's got the panel behind the fuel cap
On the o/s with bad damage
Now it's got front end damage under the
Front window under the cab the bumper is
Bent and damaged with the fibre glass under
Neath showing
Appearntly it had its o/s mirror taken off on
Wednesday by a green bus
KX59 CYZ (118) on the 10H & KX59 CYW on the 424 earlier today
Quote from: Tony on June 14, 2013, 11:59:49 AM
Another new addition KX54 NLA out on the 10 today, photo later
This is now with Kane Foods, Evesham for staff transport
is WMSNT bus fleet based at Astons garage?
can anyone tell me were you can spot R&R buses from East depot please (the depot is not easy to get too)
The grey VW Bluebird Tucanna is one of the buses on the 28A today, the other being a blue/white Enviro200
what was the solo on the 424 17.30 from city as i saw it parked behind another bus
Last night's 297 was a white Primo, KX08 HMC I think?
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on May 31, 2014, 04:39:02 PM
is WMSNT bus fleet based at Astons garage?
i think the 1 of the 10h 75 424 425 run from there not asure what else
Seen on or leaving Aston depot on Wed afternoon 14:30> buses 120/124/125/129/480(T16 GAJ).Also 2 x 14 reg were in service VX14 BZA/BZB both in plain white livery with no distinguishing features.
seen today at Runcorn Road, WX57OBL (I DID CHECK THIS BECAUSE THE FLEET LIST SHOWS WX57OBC ???), ALSO SEEN KX07KPV.
Outside Moor Street Station I saw KX08OLB
Yes I saw WX57 OBL a couple of months ago on the Bristol Road but no sign of it since.
Quote from: John on June 03, 2014, 03:55:29 PM
The grey VW Bluebird Tucanna is one of the buses on the 28A today
It is on there again today
KX08 UXU on special needs duties past the Hunters Moon at 09:35 today
@ Ken Taylor
I see up to 8 of them on their way back to depot whilst walking to Marston Green station of a morning. There's 3 at the Mackadown about 9am (these have recently mainly been the latest '14' plates), the rest are mainly the blue 05xx series which pass me between Tile Cross island & the station around 9:10.
About 3:05pm, two buses make their way in the opposite direction & head up the Meadway towards town. These used to produce E200s, but the last week or so have been Primos 106 & 108.
seen night solo on 424 woner what was on 75 167/8 top replace this 1
Quote from: Solo1 on June 12, 2014, 05:38:35 PM
seen night solo on 424 woner what was on 75 167/8 top replace this 1
Saw 3 buses on the 167/8 this morning, I'm not brilliant with their fleet and the actual buses they have but they were all E200 types. Also saw a solo on the 75 in Kingstanding
110,112-10H
WMSNT I've heard that they might be getting
Bigger buses eg longer singles and double deckers
I hope this is true
Quote from: Rainman13 on June 16, 2014, 09:29:30 PM
WMSNT I've heard that they might be getting
Bigger buses eg longer singles and double deckers
I hope this is true
For what? Do any of their services even fill an MPD?!
Does anyone know what KX56HCH/UBY work at Coventry please ??
Quote from: Rainman13 on June 16, 2014, 09:29:30 PM
WMSNT I've heard that they might be getting
Bigger buses eg longer singles and double deckers
I hope this is true
Unless there looking at schools or private hire work
Bit of luxury on the 240/297 today as wmsnt have put SR Solo 136 on there (that duty does afternoon 240 and all evening 297)
@the trainbasher the evening 297 is normally a Solo SR. Cracking buses.
Quote from: Matt on June 19, 2014, 08:13:58 PM
@the trainbasher the evening 297 is normally a Solo SR. Cracking buses.
Every time I've caught it in the last few months it's either been a standard solo or a Primo (doing the 1900, 2000, 2100 trips off halesowen)
Quote from: the trainbasher on June 19, 2014, 08:16:42 PM
Quote from: Matt on June 19, 2014, 08:13:58 PM
@the trainbasher the evening 297 is normally a Solo SR. Cracking buses.
Every time I've caught it in the last few months it's either been a standard solo or a Primo (doing the 1900, 2000, 2100 trips off halesowen)
I see it most nights, the most common vehicle type is Solo SR
Quote from: Matt on June 19, 2014, 08:13:58 PM
@the trainbasher the evening 297 is normally a Solo SR. Cracking buses.
The bodywork probably is already cracking up though that's the thing :P
Seen today at the depot in Elmdon new VX14 BYO/BZF/BZJ/BZK & buses 106/08/17.Seen also a transit similar to the 14 reg also in plain white & with full legal address was HG12 KGE.I assume a recent aquisition.
Quote from: broma1k on June 23, 2014, 06:37:07 PM
Seen today at the depot in Elmdon new VX14 BYO/BZF/BZJ/BZK & buses 106/08/17.Seen also a transit similar to the 14 reg also in plain white & with full legal address was HG12 KGE.I assume a recent aquisition.
The recent un-numbered vehicles seem to be getting fleetnumbers now as well
VX14 BZB is 1406
KX07 KPT is 0734
West Midlands Special Needs Transport Ltd
80 Park Road
Aston, Birmingham, B6 5PL
Permit Number CB000619
Route: 297
Operating between: Halesowen Bus Station and Merry Hill Centre
Application to cancel received: 18/06/2014
Effective date: 19/07/2014.
Think this explains WMSNT involvement with the 297 coming to an end....I shall be on the penultimate trip I think :-)
seen leaving Aston depot today, 1405 VX14BZA, 1406 VX14BZB, 1409 VX14BZE, KX07KPZ/KPL/KPU/KPT/KPP 0731/0732/0733/0734/0735
Frankly depot rota changes to be effective the 7th.
The duty that does the 297 is to become a "daytime spare" from what I've heard...
Quote from: Rainman13 on June 16, 2014, 09:29:30 PM
WMSNT I've heard that they might be getting
Bigger buses eg longer singles and double deckers
I hope this is true
I think you might be spot on!
Watch this space
for 28/6/14
110,111 were on 424
PD0001129/21 - WEST MIDLANDS SPECIAL NEEDS TRANSPORT LTD T/A WMSNT (HOLDINGS) LTD, 80, PARK ROAD, VIA UPPER THOMAS STREET, ASTON, BIRMINGHAM, B6 5PL
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Gressel Lane, Birmingham
Finish Point: Gressel Lane, Birmingham
Via: Bordesley Green, Alum Roack, Washwood Heath
Service Number: 800
Service Type: Normal Stopping/Hail & Ride
Effective Date: 02-SEP-2014
Other Details: Monday to Friday, school term time only
So how does a school service fit into their special needs charity portfolio then ?
Quote from: Steveminor on June 30, 2014, 07:44:24 PM
So how does a school service fit into their special needs charity portfolio then ?
Ever fort that the bus side could be totally
Separate to ring and ride side
Quote from: Tony on June 29, 2014, 04:16:02 PM
Quote from: Rainman13 on June 16, 2014, 09:29:30 PM
WMSNT I've heard that they might be getting
Bigger buses eg longer singles and double deckers
I hope this is true
I think you might be spot on!
Watch this space
So I'm not the only person to here this then
If Tony heard this it's must be gospel ( the truth)
Quote from: Rainman13 on June 30, 2014, 08:36:12 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 29, 2014, 04:16:02 PM
Quote from: Rainman13 on June 16, 2014, 09:29:30 PM
WMSNT I've heard that they might be getting
Bigger buses eg longer singles and double deckers
I hope this is true
I think you might be spot on!
Watch this space
So I'm not the only person to here this then
If Tony heard this it's must be gospel ( the truth)
I think you will see a double deck arrive sooner rather than later. It has already been purchased, no I don't have an ID yet. It is coming from Dawson Rentals who have a large stock of all sorts of ex London vehicles.
Noted today at Northfield .137 back in service with the side panel behind the driver still showing signs of damage.At Frankley were now fleetnumbered 737(KX07 KPR),736 (KX07 KRD),1407(VX14 BZC),1408(VX14 BZH),1409(VX14 BZE),1410(VX14 BZG),1411(VX14 BZD).Seen outside the bus depot in Frankley Ind Estate was 534(BX55 LKU) a blue livered estate car.
Oh and Winston's message and Rainman13's have a link!
A decker for the 800 route?
Quote from: Tony on June 30, 2014, 09:58:44 PM
Oh and Winston's message and Rainman13's have a link!
Now if that's not a hint, then I don't know what is.
Quote from: Tony on June 30, 2014, 08:39:36 PM
Quote from: Rainman13 on June 30, 2014, 08:36:12 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 29, 2014, 04:16:02 PM
Quote from: Rainman13 on June 16, 2014, 09:29:30 PM
WMSNT I've heard that they might be getting
Bigger buses eg longer singles and double deckers
I hope this is true
I think you might be spot on!
Watch this space
So I'm not the only person to here this then
If Tony heard this it's must be gospel ( the truth)
I think you will see a double deck arrive sooner rather than later. It has already been purchased, no I don't have an ID yet. It is coming from Dawson Rentals who have a large stock of all sorts of ex London vehicles.
NEW BUSES
YN56NNB
YN56NNC
Ex Warwick cc county link buses
Scanias just like nxwm 1700,1800@1900's
An the double decker is a 03 or 53 plate ex London trident tbc
Quote from: Rainman13 on July 01, 2014, 04:30:24 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 30, 2014, 08:39:36 PM
Quote from: Rainman13 on June 30, 2014, 08:36:12 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 29, 2014, 04:16:02 PM
Quote from: Rainman13 on June 16, 2014, 09:29:30 PM
WMSNT I've heard that they might be getting
Bigger buses eg longer singles and double deckers
I hope this is true
I think you might be spot on!
Watch this space
So I'm not the only person to here this then
If Tony heard this it's must be gospel ( the truth)
I think you will see a double deck arrive sooner rather than later. It has already been purchased, no I don't have an ID yet. It is coming from Dawson Rentals who have a large stock of all sorts of ex London vehicles.
NEW BUSES
YN56NNB
YN56NNC
Ex Warwick cc county link buses
Scanias just like nxwm 1700,1800@1900's
An the double decker is a 03 or 53 plate ex London trident tbc
Sorry
@Rainman13 you are not correct with the Scanias. Central Buses are selling them and have parked them at WNSNT's premises while they find a buyer
Quote from: Tony on July 01, 2014, 06:08:02 PM
Quote from: Rainman13 on July 01, 2014, 04:30:24 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 30, 2014, 08:39:36 PM
Quote from: Rainman13 on June 30, 2014, 08:36:12 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 29, 2014, 04:16:02 PM
Quote from: Rainman13 on June 16, 2014, 09:29:30 PM
WMSNT I've heard that they might be getting
Bigger buses eg longer singles and double deckers
I hope this is true
I think you might be spot on!
Watch this space
So I'm not the only person to here this then
If Tony heard this it's must be gospel ( the truth)
I think you will see a double deck arrive sooner rather than later. It has already been purchased, no I don't have an ID yet. It is coming from Dawson Rentals who have a large stock of all sorts of ex London vehicles.
NEW BUSES
YN56NNB
YN56NNC
Ex Warwick cc county link buses
Scanias just like nxwm 1700,1800@1900's
An the double decker is a 03 or 53 plate ex London trident tbc
Sorry @Rainman13 you are not correct with the Scanias. Central Buses are selling them and have parked them at WNSNT's premises while they find a buyer
No they have acquired them for two new routes they're going
To be resprayed first
Watch this space
Quote from: Rainman13 on July 01, 2014, 06:17:19 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 01, 2014, 06:08:02 PM
Quote from: Rainman13 on July 01, 2014, 04:30:24 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 30, 2014, 08:39:36 PM
Quote from: Rainman13 on June 30, 2014, 08:36:12 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 29, 2014, 04:16:02 PM
Quote from: Rainman13 on June 16, 2014, 09:29:30 PM
WMSNT I've heard that they might be getting
Bigger buses eg longer singles and double deckers
I hope this is true
I think you might be spot on!
Watch this space
So I'm not the only person to here this then
If Tony heard this it's must be gospel ( the truth)
I think you will see a double deck arrive sooner rather than later. It has already been purchased, no I don't have an ID yet. It is coming from Dawson Rentals who have a large stock of all sorts of ex London vehicles.
NEW BUSES
YN56NNB
YN56NNC
Ex Warwick cc county link buses
Scanias just like nxwm 1700,1800@1900's
An the double decker is a 03 or 53 plate ex London trident tbc
Sorry @Rainman13 you are not correct with the Scanias. Central Buses are selling them and have parked them at WNSNT's premises while they find a buyer
No they have acquired them for two new routes they're going
To be resprayed first
Watch this space
The owner of those vehicles has just emailed me!
Who is the owner??
@Tony wmsnt central or other???
Quote from: danny on July 01, 2014, 10:14:00 PM
Who is the owner?? @Tony wmsnt central or other???
Not WMSNT
Cheers for clearing that little rumour up :)
Seen this afternoon leaving Aston depot newly aquired 1132 (HV61 ZXN).
At Coventry today KX56 HCH now 739,KX56 UBY now 740.1130 was here & we were told was there in exchange for 536 to Frankley.
Requested by Frankley as 536 has a safety cage.2 deckers rumoured to be due shortly for schools work.
More new buses expected
Up to 3 more deckers
And several more singles???
@broma1k - a safety cage? You mean assault screens?
just seen VX14BZG - 1410, VX14BZH - 1408, KX08HNJ, at South Depot
Centro have listened to customers in the Dunstall Area of Wolverhampton and as a result a new 62C circular operated by WMSNT will operate during the peak periods.
The route will be:
Wolverhampton Bus Station Stand A, Pipers Row,Lichfield St,Stafford St,Five Ways island, Dunstall Rd, Gorsebrook Rd, Stafford Rd, Fiveways island, Stafford St, Broad St, Bus Link Rd, Wolverhampton Bus Station
It will operate every 30 minutes so:
07:25,07:55 and 08:25 from Bus Station
And then 15:55,16:25,16:55 and 17:25 from Bus Station
Quote from: Nathan on July 13, 2014, 02:34:59 PM
Centro have listened to customers in the Dunstall Area of Wolverhampton and as a result a new 62C circular operated by WMSNT will operate during the peak periods.
The route will be:
Wolverhampton Bus Station Stand A, Pipers Row,Lichfield St,Stafford St,Five Ways island, Dunstall Rd, Gorsebrook Rd, Stafford Rd, Fiveways island, Stafford St, Broad St, Bus Link Rd, Wolverhampton Bus Station
It will operate every 30 minutes so:
07:25,07:55 and 08:25 from Bus Station
And then 15:55,16:25,16:55 and 17:25 from Bus Station
Have you a weblink?
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 13, 2014, 03:06:46 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 13, 2014, 02:34:59 PM
Centro have listened to customers in the Dunstall Area of Wolverhampton and as a result a new 62C circular operated by WMSNT will operate during the peak periods.
The route will be:
Wolverhampton Bus Station Stand A, Pipers Row,Lichfield St,Stafford St,Five Ways island, Dunstall Rd, Gorsebrook Rd, Stafford Rd, Fiveways island, Stafford St, Broad St, Bus Link Rd, Wolverhampton Bus Station
It will operate every 30 minutes so:
07:25,07:55 and 08:25 from Bus Station
And then 15:55,16:25,16:55 and 17:25 from Bus Station
Have you a weblink?
I will try and find one for you Tom :). I am currently at the Wolverhampton City & Black Country show. I found out about the route after i visited the NWM exhibition bus. Apparantly it will run till late October and will continue if it gains enough patronage
just seen at East depot, VX14BYP - 1401, VX14BZK - 1402, VX14BZF - 1404, Does anyone know which depot KX07KNW, YJ58CFA, are working from please ??
KX07 KMW just seen at the Hunters Moon on a special needs duty.Normally the vehicle on this run leaves East depot about 15:15ish for the afternoon run.
Which of the Pcv fleet r used on special needs I know there a primo
& White envrio 08 reg solo 125.
I have seen 106 & 108 on special needs recently.
Anyone planning to catch the last of wmsnt 297s tonight?
128 is the solo that's doing it today.
126 was the bus on the new 62C Dunstall Circular this morning
Quote from: Rainman13 on July 09, 2014, 07:59:08 PM
More new buses expected
Up to 3 more deckers
And several more singles???
Have none of the above buses arrived yet?
Will WMSNT definitely bee running the 141 & 145 from 1st Sept, or are these still not fully confirmed/within the cool off period as per Diamond's WCC tender wins?
Quote from: Winston on July 24, 2014, 12:21:47 PM
Quote from: Rainman13 on July 09, 2014, 07:59:08 PM
More new buses expected
Up to 3 more deckers
And several more singles???
Have none of the above buses arrived yet?
Will WMSNT definitely bee running the 141 & 145 from 1st Sept, or are these still not fully confirmed/within the cool off period as per Diamond's WCC tender wins?
From what I've been told they have asked for 6 drivers to do the 141/145 at Frankley.
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 24, 2014, 02:56:08 PM
Quote from: Winston on July 24, 2014, 12:21:47 PM
Quote from: Rainman13 on July 09, 2014, 07:59:08 PM
More new buses expected
Up to 3 more deckers
And several more singles???
Have none of the above buses arrived yet?
Will WMSNT definitely bee running the 141 & 145 from 1st Sept, or are these still not fully confirmed/within the cool off period as per Diamond's WCC tender wins?
From what I've been told they have asked for 6 drivers to do the 141/145 at Frankley.
Sounds as though they are definitely operated by WMSNT then.
Addition to fleet
02 plate Dennis dart ex London in front yard
At aston
X3 optares solo's due any time this week for 145
Which starts September 1st
Apparently the solos are the classic style ones,
Also I've heard that one Primo is off the road with a major fault
Quote from: the trainbasher on August 05, 2014, 04:14:13 PM
Apparently the solos are the classic style ones,
Also I've heard that one Primo is off the road with a major fault
Angle drive blew Saturday on the 298/299 in Stourbridge
Additions x2
Dart KU02YUB
&Dart KP02PUO
what have they brought more darts when they got rid of 3 darts that were with central buses
Quote from: Winston on July 24, 2014, 03:00:12 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 24, 2014, 02:56:08 PM
Quote from: Winston on July 24, 2014, 12:21:47 PM
Quote from: Rainman13 on July 09, 2014, 07:59:08 PM
More new buses expected
Up to 3 more deckers
And several more singles???
Have none of the above buses arrived yet?
Will WMSNT definitely bee running the 141 & 145 from 1st Sept, or are these still not fully confirmed/within the cool off period as per Diamond's WCC tender wins?
From what I've been told they have asked for 6 drivers to do the 141/145 at Frankley.
Sounds as though they are definitely operated by WMSNT then.
and by the looks of it merged it into one route! hourly! bloody hell never thought blackwell and barnt green would be getting an hourly bus again, well chuffed with that
I know, I was surprised to see the frequency increase too. It's nice that with so many services being cut that the 141 / 145 as actually been improved as a result of the bus review.
What service r the 2 darts for
145? Is that the old Midland Red route? What's the 141?
I could search for it but meh, I'd thought I'd give my members something to do.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on August 10, 2014, 08:50:11 PM
145? Is that the old Midland Red route? What's the 141?
I could search for it but meh, I'd thought I'd give my members something to do.
Droitwich to Bromsgrove...although I could have said jokingly MH to Birmingham :-)
Quote from: Liverpool Street on August 10, 2014, 08:50:11 PM
145? Is that the old Midland Red route? What's the 141?
I could search for it but meh, I'd thought I'd give my members something to do.
Think it was, but believe it or not I genuinely remember the 145 as being a TWM route, hourly from brum as per the 146 to west heath, then cofton - barnt green - Blackwell - lickey end - Bromsgrove using Lynxes!
Also, 141 is the indirect route Bromsgrove via Stoke Prior to Droitwich
this is from wikepica
145
Bromsgrove
Longbridge
Lickey End, Burcot, Barnt Green
Diamond Bus
The 145 is an infrequent route operated by Diamond Bus. In the past it has been operated by Travel West Midlands[2] and First Midland Red. The full route used to run from Birmingham to Bromsgrove via the Pershore road, however it was curtailed to Cotteridge when taken over by Zak's Buses in 2003 (later Central Connect and Diamond Bus).[27] First Midland Red took over the route in September 2011 when it was revised to run between Bromsgrove and Longbridge only.[27]
In March 2013, First's Redditch operation (which runs this service) was sold to Diamond Bus who have continued operation on this route.[1]
New bus
KP02PUO
On the 10 today
this was out on 28 today https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/14732526729/ instead of normal one
one of the new darts was out today on the 10h https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/14927928182/ yesterday it was changed part way though the day
Quote from: Solo1 on August 15, 2014, 07:20:40 PM
one of the new darts was out today on the 10h https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/14927928182/ yesterday it was changed part way though the day
I didn't realize they would be dual door. Not really up to WMSNT's usual standard of used acquisitions
Wonder if the other dart will be out next
week that wmsnt have
here are my allocations to the psv fleet
Aston
109/110/111 125 8 8) solo's
KU52RXR KP02POU DART
KX59CYW/YY ENVRIO
MX10DXD ENVRIO
KX08OLCB PRIMO
SERVICES 10/10H 75 167/8 424/5
EAST
106/8 PRIMO
117 VW TRANSPORTER
KX57KMC KNO8UXU MX11CZK/L ENVRIO
KN07KNW PRIMO
SERVIVES 28 40 RUN IN ACOCKS GRREN A COVENTRY SERVICE 91
SOUTH
105 129SOLO
118/19/20 ENVRIOS
136/7/8/9 SOLO SR'S
KX08HMD SN59AXA/B/C ENVRIO
KX08HMA/C KX08HNJ KX08OLE PRIMO
SEVICES 10/10H 19 38 39/A 240 288 298/9
WEDNESBURY
T13/6GAJ KX58GTF KX09GJJ MX60BWZ ENVRIOS
SERVIVES 24 IN DUDLEY 64 INWEST BRO
WOLVERHAMPTON
107 PRIMO
SERVICE 61
THIS FROM OBS
8) :)
Quote from: Solo1 on August 17, 2014, 09:53:50 PM
here are my allocations to the psv fleet
Aston
109/110/111 125 8 8) solo's
KU52RXR KP02POU DART
KX59CYW/YY ENVRIO
MX10DXD ENVRIO
KX08OLCB PRIMO
SERVICES 10/10H 75 167/8 424/5
EAST
106/8 PRIMO
117 VW TRANSPORTER
KX57KMC KNO8UXU MX11CZK/L ENVRIO
KN07KNW PRIMO
SERVIVES 28 40 RUN IN ACOCKS GRREN A COVENTRY SERVICE 91
SOUTH
105 129SOLO
118/19/20 ENVRIOS
136/7/8/9 SOLO SR'S
KX08HMD SN59AXA/B/C ENVRIO
KX08HMA/C KX08HNJ KX08OLE PRIMO
SEVICES 10/10H 19 38 39/A 240 288 298/9
WEDNESBURY
T13/6GAJ KX58GTF KX09GJJ MX60BWZ ENVRIOS
SERVIVES 24 IN DUDLEY 64 INWEST BRO
WOLVERHAMPTON
107 PRIMO
SERVICE 61
THIS FROM OBS
8) :)
## east bus MX11CZK or CZL
Was involved in a very bad rtc in small heath
The whole front end is gone
Bumpers lights support bars etc
##south don't have 119 120 in there fleet
120 was on a 2 day loan to south
120 is a north bus
119 I think is an east bus
Also at south is 3 adult services routes
Plus BU04GVD is the 39R bus plus the 53 and S1
And the 35/41 Walsall to Aldridge and Walsall to willenhall
Don't forget the new 145 as of September 1st
With 3 04 plate optares with new branding buses
At north being prepared for service eg ticket machines
Branding etc
There is KU02YUO yet to be used currently at north
Looks like a White dart on 10h again
was on bus so no id
KX04HPZ full length optare solo fleet no 149
2 more due over the next few days
There were different buses on the 35/41 in Walsall
105 YJ10EYR
128 YJ58PGV
Lots of new arrivals at north 6wheel Mercedes too many
To mention mostly 59 plates like 738
New branding for bournville college on all the south buses
New acquisitions seen at Aston today
Ring & Ride KX59 GLF/GNF/GNJ/GNN/GMO/GMY/GMZ
OY61 CKD/CJU
KV63 BVL/UBC/UCV
Plus bus SF08GFV
Quote from: broma1k on August 26, 2014, 08:33:26 PM
New acquisitions seen at Aston today
Ring & Ride KX59 GLF/GNF/GNJ/GNN/GMO/GMY/GMZ
OY61 CKD/CJU
KV63 BVL/UBC/UCV
Plus bus SF08GFV
Also sf08gfx plus bus both metallic red
Also kx07koe enviro 200 white
All 3 at south Tay rd today
BU14YUB new ford transit 6 wheel version at south
In top yard
'igo' the new name for WMSNT?
from facebook:
'igo is a new name in the bus industry but is in fact the new bus services brand name of West Midlands Special Needs Transport, a registered charity since 1983, who also operate the World renowned Ring and Ride service in the West Midlands.'
Anyone got the Facebook link for wmsnt page
Quote from: Solo1 on September 01, 2014, 10:34:55 AM
Anyone got the Facebook link for wmsnt page
https://www.facebook.com/pages/WMSNT-Bus-Services/590408637667466?fref=ts
149 and 138 are on the 145 today
Quote from: the trainbasher on September 01, 2014, 11:34:45 AM
149 and 138 are on the 145 today
I thought they had 3 new buses on
the 145 & not 1 from the 19 service unless the buses
aren't all ready for the 145 service
Quote from: Solo1 on September 01, 2014, 11:39:12 AM
Quote from: the trainbasher on September 01, 2014, 11:34:45 AM
149 and 138 are on the 145 today
I thought they had 3 new buses on
the 145 & not 1 from the 19 service unless the buses
aren't all ready for the 145 service
Quote from: the trainbasher on September 01, 2014, 11:34:45 AM
149 and 138 are on the 145 today
KX04HPZ 149
YD63UZW 136
YD63UZX 139
All on the 145 today
New buses x2 delayed due this week
I saw 136 and 149 on the 145 this afternoon, the latter, although recently repainted is looking its age, a bit like me. :D
Quote from: B61 ANDREW on September 01, 2014, 09:01:28 PM
I saw 136 and 149 on the 145 this afternoon, the latter, although recently repainted is looking its age, a bit like me. :D
Were there many passengers on the journeys that you saw?
Saw the 298/9 bus parked up for its lunch this afternoon in the bus layby opposite Stourbridge tip around 12:10 today.
Driver sat easting his lunch on one of the middle seats (nothing wrong in that) with the engine running, what a waste of Diesel and Money!
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 01, 2014, 09:10:19 PM
Saw the 298/9 bus parked up for its lunch this afternoon in the bus layby opposite Stourbridge tip around 12:10 today.
Driver sat easting his lunch on one of the middle seats (nothing wrong in that) with the engine running, what a waste of Diesel and Money!
Perhaps he was warming his chips, as per that scene in one of the On The Buses films! LOL
Quote from: Westy on September 01, 2014, 11:06:43 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 01, 2014, 09:10:19 PM
Saw the 298/9 bus parked up for its lunch this afternoon in the bus layby opposite Stourbridge tip around 12:10 today.
Driver sat easting his lunch on one of the middle seats (nothing wrong in that) with the engine running, what a waste of Diesel and Money!
Perhaps he was warming his chips, as per that scene in one of the On The Buses films! LOL
:) :) :) :)
LT02 ZZK (d/d) in the usual blue livery seen at Beggars Bush (Chester Road) this morning, on an 8xx schools service.
Metroline TP305 as was.
Quote from: Ossie on September 02, 2014, 10:49:35 PM
LT02 ZZK (d/d) in the usual blue livery seen at Beggars Bush (Chester Road) this morning, on an 8xx schools service.
Metroline TP305 as was.
What times does the 2 buses run the school services
Anyone know what time the school service from
East b'ham depot run & any photos of the deckers
New optare solo at south
KX06LYJ in white still to be painted
On 145 tomorrow 5-9-14
Quote from: Winston on September 01, 2014, 09:02:59 PM
Were there many passengers on the journeys that you saw?
Hmmmmm. Good question. Not much difference than normal. Sorry for the vague answer. :o
Quote from: Rainman13 on September 04, 2014, 06:48:23 PM
New optare solo at south
KX06LYJ in white still to be painted
On 145 tomorrow 5-9-14
Thanks for the info. ;)
YD63UZW in Bromsgrove today on the 10.08 145 to Droitwich, 14 punters inwards and 5 outwards. Later, KX04UPZ was on the 10.21 to Rubery, 7 inwards and 4 outwards were the loadings. :D
Are all 3 new buses now in service on 145 in the igo livery &
any photos of the buses in igo livery
Quote from: Solo1 on September 04, 2014, 06:38:21 AM
Quote from: Ossie on September 02, 2014, 10:49:35 PM
LT02 ZZK (d/d) in the usual blue livery seen at Beggars Bush (Chester Road) this morning, on an 8xx schools service.
Metroline TP305 as was.
What times does the 2 buses run the school services
'ZZK has now received igo vinyls. I normally see it about 15:40 at the Mackadown, be wary of the **** falling out of the International School if you go looking for it there.
Quote from: Solo1 on September 08, 2014, 01:31:22 PM
Are all 3 new buses now in service on 145 in the igo livery &
any photos of the buses in igo livery
No pictures from me sorry, but 149 has "igo to Droitwich" on one side,"igo to Bromsgrove" on the other and "igo to Longbridge" on the rear. :D
Quote from: B61 ANDREW on September 09, 2014, 11:57:54 AM
Quote from: Solo1 on September 08, 2014, 01:31:22 PM
Are all 3 new buses now in service on 145 in the igo livery &
any photos of the buses in igo livery
No pictures from me sorry, but 149 has "igo to Droitwich" on one side,"igo to Bromsgrove" on the other and "igo to Longbridge" on the rear. :D
It will be interesting to see if WMSNT loadings are affected by Diamond's 141 & 145A which finally commenced yesterday.
KX06LYJ, SN59AXA and KX04HPZ on the 145 in Bromsgrove this morning, the first two in all over white livery. :)
Saw an I-Go President drive through Sutton this afternoon, I was just finishing a 914 so didn't get too good a look. Blue livery with silver stripes,very smart
Managed to get a pic of an igo solo 145 earlier, Ill upload it here a bit later for those who haven't seen the livery yet. Personally I think it is a fantastic improvement on the WMSNT livery.
Here we go, I have reduced the quality and size of them to reduce the pressure on the forum bandwith.
(https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F1zme542.jpg&hash=cb8a032f06713d097d2961a95987b47ad1c0c228)
(https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2Fsos2oj.jpg&hash=ee25fdd110c145dcf3cc2d1b576b13b5749f94d4)
What time is solo 149 from morrisons used on
145 service
What times does the dart ku02yub run from
City on10h
From WMSNT Facebook:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t31.0-8/10608513_771265299581798_8168479155080813886_o.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t31.0-8/10669274_771224506252544_4202761032161478800_o.jpg
Smart, that Solo is a monster....
The Igo brand & livery is much better than WMSNT
with all the centro contracts gained by wmsnt wonder what they will be buying solos evrios or darts they need 11 & some for he 25 service
Quote from: Solo1 on September 16, 2014, 03:34:23 PM
with all the centro contracts gained by wmsnt wonder what they will be buying solos evrios or darts they need 11 & some for he 25 service
They've pretty much cleaned up again.
New addition to Tay rd
KX04HPU same bus as HPZ
Possibly on the 145 today
any chance of a new fleet list please ??
Quote from: Ken Taylor on September 21, 2014, 04:01:55 PM
any chance of a new fleet list please ??
When the fleet settles down after next months tender wins, i will request a new fleetlist from the company
Quote from: dave47549 (no longer NEL111P) on September 08, 2014, 04:02:57 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on September 04, 2014, 06:38:21 AM
Quote from: Ossie on September 02, 2014, 10:49:35 PM
LT02 ZZK (d/d) in the usual blue livery seen at Beggars Bush (Chester Road) this morning, on an 8xx schools service.
Metroline TP305 as was.
What times does the 2 buses run the school services
'ZZK has now received igo vinyls. I normally see it about 15:40 at the Mackadown, be wary of the **** falling out of the International School if you go looking for it there.
LT02ZZG is another one, passed me near Marston Green this morning.
KX04HPY new addition to Tay rd
It's a 145 bus so should be out today
Around Bromsgrove
For WMSNT say igo?
Does anyone know if WMSNT buses are only going to have Igo fleetnames when they get repainted?
Quote from: JoNi on September 29, 2014, 07:17:47 PM
Does anyone know if WMSNT buses are only going to have Igo fleetnames when they get repainted?
Well considering how plain some of the buses are at the moment, would be easy to put some sort of igo branding on them
Logged leaving/arriving at Aston depot this afternoon,
500/2/3/6/22/24/26/38/48/61
601/2/3/8/9/10/14/15/24/26/27/28
700/4/21/23/26/30/31/33/34/35
800/2/4/11/16/20/23/26/38/49
908/12/14/15/16/17/18/20/21
1019/20/21/22/29/32/33/83/90/93/94/97/99/10101/10108
1120/29/32(HV61 XZN)
1201/34
1301/14/15/17/18/BJ63 BJZ
1405/6
T2
New arrivals KX59 GNJ/GNP/GNN OY61 CJU
Buses 125,KX52 RXR,KX08 OLC,
Seems the 240 has gone missing. 55 minutes I've been waiting for it and hasn't come (saw it going to Stourbridge 20 down from Grange Lane at 1450 but it hasn't returned...the exact time it was meant to be on its way to Cradley from the opposite side of the road)
Quote from: the trainbasher on October 03, 2014, 03:46:01 PM
Seems the 240 has gone missing. 55 minutes I've been waiting for it and hasn't come (saw it going to Stourbridge 20 down from Grange Lane at 1450 but it hasn't returned...the exact time it was meant to be on its way to Cradley from the opposite side of the road)
Well the 298/9 broke down on Lye bypass today, am wondering whether they swapped the bus that was on the 240 onto the 298/9 route(which is busier) and when they got the broken down bus going, put it on the 240? Now it could have broken down again?? Just a thought.
The bus doing the 1545 240 came on time (that drops off the 288)
Solo on 145 broke down this morning also
Caught the 145 to Blackwell this morning and had the same driver back this evening, so had a bit of a chat with him coming back into Longbridge. Apparently during the week they get a lot of school kids and that pays for the bulk of the service, and on Monday morning he took a considerable amount of money. But today he had a grand total of 4 passengers and I was 2 of them...
6 new arrivals at north depot
There all primos
57 and 08 plates
8 more expected this week
There's a pic of new arrival
KX08OML
On the Wmsnt Facebook page
It's white with igo livery
And it's slightly different
It's "we go on remembering"
Poppy appeal livery
Looks really nice
President LT02 ZZK is on the Bedworth Town Services (B1-3 Warwickshire C.C. contract) today, that is the rarest spotting I've ever had in 21 years in the town!
LT02ZZG on 800 service PM. Does anyone know the reg of 1401/2/3/ please.
thanks
1401 VX14 BYP
1402 VX14 BZK
1403 VX14 BZJ
T13GAJ & T16GAJ
Now at Tay rd (south)
Transfers
On the Merry Hill 24 Thursday 09/10/2014 KX57FKW
http://www.busphotography.co.uk/picture.php?/8872/category/60
Quote from: the trainbasher on October 11, 2014, 12:27:23 AM
On the Merry Hill 24 Thursday 09/10/2014 KX57FKW
http://www.busphotography.co.uk/picture.php?/8872/category/60
Yes I saw that unusual
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 11, 2014, 07:51:22 AM
Quote from: the trainbasher on October 11, 2014, 12:27:23 AM
On the Merry Hill 24 Thursday 09/10/2014 KX57FKW
http://www.busphotography.co.uk/picture.php?/8872/category/60
Yes I saw that unusual
Isn't unusual it's been on there all week
+ wednesbury is gunna be 100% primo
Tony, 1401/2/3 are off EAST B.HAM
739/740 both at Coventry depot today at 12.30pm (due out at 14.00)
Out route learning on the 303 this morning.
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on October 16, 2014, 05:38:33 PM
Out route learning on the 303 this morning.
Which 303?
The one in Worcestershire or West Mids?
seen at Longbridge today, 146 - KX04HPY, 149 - KX04HPZ both on route 145
Seen leaving Aston depot today,
KX59GNO/GNN/GNJ/GNP, HN62DXA, KV63BKL/UBC (new ??)
I got my first photo of one of the deckers today, LT02ZZG leaving East depot
http://wmbusphotos.com/Ring+Ride/LT02ZZG.html
3 enviro 200 on order for South (Tay Rd)
Brand new apparently
Possibly for the 39/39A
Quote from: Rainman13 on October 18, 2014, 02:55:06 PM
3 enviro 200 on order for South (Tay Rd)
Brand new apparently
Possibly for the 39/39A
or for the 10/H
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on October 16, 2014, 05:38:33 PM
Out route learning on the 303 this morning.
County Bridge, Willenhall, Bilston.
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on October 19, 2014, 08:40:05 AM
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on October 16, 2014, 05:38:33 PM
Out route learning on the 303 this morning.
County Bridge, Willenhall, Bilston.
Do you drive for WMSNT then Tony?
Also shouldn't this topic be renamed to iGo?
Quote from: NXDom on October 19, 2014, 06:01:14 PM
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on October 19, 2014, 08:40:05 AM
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on October 16, 2014, 05:38:33 PM
Out route learning on the 303 this morning.
County Bridge, Willenhall, Bilston.
Do you drive for WMSNT then Tony?
Also shouldn't this topic be renamed to iGo?
Or maybe an igo bus was travelling along the 303 route with several drivers
here is one of the igo buses caught by luck https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/15626331152/
Frankley are operating the 226. People are complaining because of the lack of day returns
WMSNT in Bilston on first journey on 303, https://www.flickr.com/photos/78104432@N07/15021288293/
Both 226 duties on weekdays/Saturday come off the 19.
138 and 139 are doing the 226 today
New arrivals????
Brand new enviro 200
YY64GVZ
YY64GWA
YY64GWC
All at North depot
What are been used on the new contracts. Wnsnt have like 24 25 42 424 as all I've read is 1 primomon 303
Igo appear to be undertaking an emergency tender for a route 27 in Coventry to replace withdrawl of Stagecoach X16 between City Centre and Willenhall from next Monday. Unable to find any timetable info!!
The new enviros are for the 167-168
Two A4 Centro information posters have appeared in stand E in Pool Meadow, Coventry stating
"route 27 formerly X16 will depart from here. Route 735 is being moved to F".
Quote from: Rainman13 on October 30, 2014, 05:58:45 PM
The new enviros are for the 167-168
will the envrios that r now on there b used on the new Coventry service & other services or moved somewhere else
IGO poppy bus had to take this quick as it was late https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/15661566726/
click link to see the rest of the igo buses at Wednsbury https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/15500182627/ how many primos are there at wednsbury as I worked it out 12 service buses & some spare ones .Which depot runs 24 serice in walsal woood
Quote from: JoNi on October 30, 2014, 04:39:41 PM
Igo appear to be undertaking an emergency tender for a route 27 in Coventry to replace withdrawal of Stagecoach X16 between City Centre and Willenhall from next Monday. Unable to find any timetable info!!
NWM have (on their facebook page) quoted the Pool Meadow departure timings as.... Mon-Fri: 0759, 0905, 1005, 1105, 1205, 1305, 1405, 1505, 1615, 1730. Saturdays: 1005, 1105, 1205, 1305, 1405, 1505, 1605, 1705.
They didn't quote the inbound timings but I expect they are roughly 30 minutes before outbound timings.
QuoteNew arrivals????
Brand new enviro 200
YY64GVZ
YY64GWA
YY64GWC
All at North depot
.......................
The new enviros are for the 167-168
......... so I hotfooted it down to my nearest 168 stop this morning hoping for one of the new vehicles rather than the usual diet of CYW, CYY, DXD and occassionally RXR - but what I caught was not a new one but interestingly T13GAJ which I've never seen before ..... absolutely pristine condition, and still bearing the previous operator's fleet number 13, inside, above the windscreen. :)
I thought T13 was at south depot & not north
Bus spotters paradise in northfield
Thursday 6th November
To find out be there an you will see!!!
117 seems to be the regular performer on route 27 in Coventry.
There are no timetables available in the Travel Centre for either this route or Stagecoach's X16.
YY64GVZ-WA-WC
Now at south Tay road
On the 39-39A
All have the IGO livery
Look very nice
Quote from: Rainman13 on November 06, 2014, 03:05:18 PM
YY64GVZ-WA-WC
Now at south Tay road
On the 39-39A
All have the IGO livery
Look very nice
Did they have something to do with the event in Northfield you mentioned?
I don't know if it has already been mentioned, but at least one of the KP/U 02 Darts has been repainted into igo livery with smart 10 branding, above the windows, and on the engine cover. Still has dual doors though
117 appears to be the usual performer in Coventry on recently introduced route 27.
New Chief Executive appointed
http://www.route-one.net/people/wmsnt-holdings-names-bermingham-new-chief-exec/
T16GAJ noted this morning in Asda Minworth on either the 167 or the 168 - another unusual vehicle for these routes!
Quote from: John on November 06, 2014, 06:43:49 PM
I don't know if it has already been mentioned, but at least one of the KP/U 02 Darts has been repainted into igo livery with smart 10 branding, above the windows, and on the engine cover. Still has dual doors though
KU02 YUK and KM02 HDK were both out today branded for the 10H, think they might want to have a word with whoever did the LEDs.
Any idea what buses on 240 today?
Kx59cyz 118 on the 240
KU02 YUK and KM02 HDK were both out today branded for the 10H, think they might want to have a word with whoever did the LEDs.
[/quote]here a photo of one of them https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/15556106067/
Quote from: Rainman13 on November 06, 2014, 03:05:18 PM
YY64GVZ-WA-WC
Now at south Tay road
On the 39-39A
All have the IGO livery
Look very nice
here is one of the envrios in the Igo livery https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/15717548356/
Yy64gyZ is on the 2115 ex merry hill today.
Shouldn't be Igo to Weoley Castle but Igo to Wordsley instead ;-)
Quote from: the trainbasher on November 08, 2014, 09:19:53 PM
Yy64gyZ is on the 2115 ex merry hill today.
Shouldn't be Igo to Weoley Castle but Igo to Wordsley instead ;-)
A Mercedes SLK convertable? wow that is luxury
Did you mean YY64 GVZ?
Quote from: Tony on November 09, 2014, 07:04:18 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on November 08, 2014, 09:19:53 PM
Yy64gyZ is on the 2115 ex merry hill today.
Shouldn't be Igo to Weoley Castle but Igo to Wordsley instead ;-)
A Mercedes SLK convertable? wow that is luxury
Did you mean YY64 GVZ?
Yes i meant that (case of trying to remember and type the reg whilst walking the final leg home)
As per my comment on 8/11/14, http://www.busphotography.co.uk/picture.php?/10789/category/60 YY64GVZ on the 226
KX57FMC seen on the 167/8 today, another "new" vehicle - and none of the "usual suspects" has been seen for the last week or so. Looks like there has been a complete reallocation of the buses assigned to these routes ......
Quote from: Ossie on November 11, 2014, 01:43:24 PM
KX57FMC seen on the 167/8 today, another "new" vehicle - and none of the "usual suspects" has been seen for the last week or so. Looks like there has been a complete reallocation of the buses assigned to these routes ......
been about for a while seen at Coventry https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/11894796925/in/set-72157631866711379
The Primo usually operating on 41/47 this week was "leaning" backwards earlier in the week!
Also route 27 in Coventry operates via the Little Park Street to reach the Ring Road unlike the X16 which operated direct from Pool Meadow to London via the Ring Road.
More 'new' vehicles seen working out of Aston Tuesday
KX56 RWY/RXA/RXB/RXP in blue livery the same as recent batch 731-,
plus bus KX09 CKC in igo livery at the depot
What is the 39H route ?
Hagley to Bornville college (via Stourbridge and halesowen.)
I've spent a few days trying to keep an eye out for it in the evening and it's not turned up...
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 20, 2014, 08:08:54 PM
What is the 39H route ?
Go to networkwm website.
Lookup timetables.
Find this: clicky (http://jp.networkwestmidlands.com/centro/XSLT_SELTT_REQUEST?sessionID=0&requestID=0&language=en&anySigWhenPerfectNoOtherMatches=1&locationServerActive=1&stateless=1&locationInfoActive=1&coordListOutputFormat=string&coordOutputFormatTail=0&privateTransport=1&privateTransport=2&hideBannerInfo=1&convertStopsPTKernel2LocationServer=1&convertAddressesITKernel2LocationServer=1&convertCoord2LocationServer=1&convertCrossingsITKernel2LocationServer=1&convertPOIsITKernel2LocationServer=1&w_regPrefAl=6&coordOutputFormat=MRCV&mergeDir=1&deleteAllLines=1&selTTODVActice=1&selTTLineByNameActice=1&selTTAllOperators=1&mergeOpName=1&useAllStops=1&outputFormat=0&excludedMeans=checkbox&exclMOT_0=1&exclMOT_4=1&lineName=39h&type_seltt=any&typeInfo_seltt=invalid&useHouseNumberList_seltt=1&nameState_seltt=empty&nameInfo_seltt=invalid&itdLPxx_nameText_seltt=City%2C+Town%2C+Postcode%2C+Address%2C+Station%2C+Airport+or+Place+of+Interest&nameDefaultText_seltt=City%2C+Town%2C+Postcode%2C+Address%2C+Station%2C+Airport+or+Place+of+Interest&name_seltt=City%2C+Town%2C+Postcode%2C+Address%2C+Station%2C+Airport+or+Place+of+Interest&anyObjFilter_seltt=0&opName=)
Ta-da...
Quote from: the trainbasher on November 20, 2014, 08:42:03 PM
Hagley to Bornville college (via Stourbridge and halesowen.)
I've spent a few days trying to keep an eye out for it in the evening and it's not turned up...
I see every morning
The axb envrio that was at south b'ham now
at east b'ham seen 2 nite on 28a service
S1 has been increased to half hourly over the Christmas period (Sunday service)
Either I'm missing something or I've waited over 45 minutes for an Igo bus which still hasn't turned up!!
If its the 226 trainbasher, I'm in Dudley wondering where the 1815 is.....
Yes it is the 226. I Had to wait in the freezing cold because the bus coming off the 1615 ex Dudley left merry hill not in service at 1702.
The 1815 ex merry hill is solo 139.
I'm that cold I've just got home and put my head in the oven to warm up! Pity I can't fit the rest of myself in...
Yeah that happened last week at merry hill. because of the distance to depot, i think 1 driver normally goes back to depot, and another comes from depot to take up the 1715. Explains why I'm still waiting.
Do people want Diamond back on evening/Sunday 226's then?! :P
Diamond occasionally failed to run/consistantly ran late so they're both as bad as each other
Diamond weren't bad on the evenings, used to use most 2315 journeys and never had an FTO. only gripe is the unrealistic timetable, and the Ks03 solos, that are so slow they can't keep time, especially round merry hill
Quote from: bususer12 on November 23, 2014, 07:03:34 PM
Diamond weren't bad on the evenings, used to use most 2315 journeys and never had an FTO. only gripe is the unrealistic timetable, and the Ks03 solos, that are so slow they can't keep time, especially round merry hill
I actually really like the KS03 solos-I thought based on reports on here they were awful until I had a ride on one a couple of months back. Refurbed seats, nice and warm inside, ok up the hills. The question is whether they cope with the loadings on the route...
There's one okay one, but they're just poor on acceleration and hills. The 08/09 ones have much more power, and seem to be late less. Comparing buses alone, wmsnt win hands down, free wifi, and leather seats
Another newcomer to the 167/68 stable today - 124 (AXC).
wonder if all 3 of the envrios are now at east B'ham aston wonder if this means the 2 white evnrios have been returned or are now where
LT02ZZG double decker is now at Tay rd
Any one on here heared anything about IGo getting The whittles 7 kiddermister -Fairfield local service and 192 stourport to Halesowen
services It's been posted on the whittles board , I am from Kidderminster and not seen anything on the Worcestershire county council site
who publish stuff about bus changes , and these two are tendred ones .
Quote from: Ced on December 05, 2014, 11:15:43 PM
Any one on here heared anything about IGo getting The whittles 7 kiddermister -Fairfield local service and 192 stourport to Halesowen
services It's been posted on the whittles board , I am from Kidderminster and not seen anything on the Worcestershire county council site
who publish stuff about bus changes , and these two are tendred ones .
This is contrary to what I understand.
Simon
Quote from: Simon Dunn on December 06, 2014, 09:32:13 AM
Quote from: Ced on December 05, 2014, 11:15:43 PM
Any one on here heared anything about IGo getting The whittles 7 kiddermister -Fairfield local service and 192 stourport to Halesowen
services It's been posted on the whittles board , I am from Kidderminster and not seen anything on the Worcestershire county council site
who publish stuff about bus changes , and these two are tendred ones .
This is contrary to what I understand.
Simon
Would Igo be allowed to operate outside the West Midlands?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 06, 2014, 03:20:20 PM
Quote from: Simon Dunn on December 06, 2014, 09:32:13 AM
Quote from: Ced on December 05, 2014, 11:15:43 PM
Any one on here heared anything about IGo getting The whittles 7 kiddermister -Fairfield local service and 192 stourport to Halesowen
services It's been posted on the whittles board , I am from Kidderminster and not seen anything on the Worcestershire county council site
who publish stuff about bus changes , and these two are tendred ones .
This is contrary to what I understand.
Simon
Would Igo be allowed to operate outside the West Midlands?
They already do, as the 145 is WCC funded
Why wouldn't they be allowed?
seen leaving Aston depot today, KX56RWY/RWZ/RXR/RXP/RXA/RXB, KX07KOE, ??08BEO, ??62DZA, 1132, and many more older ones.
??62DZA
I have this as HN 62 DZA
WMSNT have sent me a fleetlist today, when I can get my website to work, there will be un up to date one on there
the 3rd dart for the 10 now in blue yet awaits the logos https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/15394914783/in/photostream/ kp02puo
The WMSNT fleetlist on the main site has been updated with information supplied by the company
http://wmbusphotos.com/Ring+Ride/fleetlist.html
What route can i go on(as near as halesowen as possible) to go on a primo ?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 14, 2014, 07:40:48 PM
What route can i go on(as near as halesowen as possible) to go on a primo ?
Could do a Dudley to Merry Hill trip on the 24-gives you a nice long run on one! Not that that phrase has ever been used in relation to a Primo!
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 14, 2014, 07:40:48 PM
What route can i go on(as near as halesowen as possible) to go on a primo ?
24 (Dudley - Old Hill - Cradley - Merry Hill)
240 (Cradley Heath - Timbertree - Lye - Stourbridge)
I take it the envrio's are no longer
used on the 24 & 64 service
Tony, is the main site still "down" as I can not get on it ??
Quote from: Ken Taylor on December 15, 2014, 01:36:05 PM
Tony, is the main site still "down" as I can not get on it ??
No, working fine, apart from one link on the front page go to http://wmbusphotos.com/default-old.html for the fleetlist index page
can anyone confirm the depot allocations of any of the PCV fleet from LT02ZZG - YJ58CFA please
thanks
YY64GWA on the 226 plus a Primo parked up broken down in merry hill
YY64GVZ on the 288 today in stourbridge
What was on 22/53 today in Wolverhampton
Saw an envrio on 424 yesterday but to far to id it which one was it
Enviro was 120, mate
I love how since Igo or whatever they want to call themselves taken over the 27. It's been empty! There little minibus Volkswagen is not appealing to anyone!
for those who haven't seen the new solos in igo livery on service 145 https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16161127516/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/15564577014/in/photostream/ the spare on still in white https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16001168027/in/photostream/
Quote from: Adam 404 on January 02, 2015, 11:07:34 PM
I love how since Igo or whatever they want to call themselves taken over the 27. It's been empty! There little minibus Volkswagen is not appealing to anyone!
Is there a stigma attached with WMSNT to the extent that nobody wishes to be seen on a vehicle ran by a company which has 'Special Needs' in it's name? which perhaps is one element for the re-branding to iGo. Maybe there is general consensus that people prefer big vehicles when they want to ride a bus.
When do you see this service Adam? If Saturdays and School Holidays then that happens to be when many OAPs, certainly the less able ones who would find such a service a godsend would avoid going to town.
Quote from: JPC on January 03, 2015, 09:09:35 PM
Quote from: Adam 404 on January 02, 2015, 11:07:34 PM
I love how since Igo or whatever they want to call themselves taken over the 27. It's been empty! There little minibus Volkswagen is not appealing to anyone!
Is a stigma attached with WMSNT to the extent that nobody wishes to be seen on a vehicle ran by a company which has 'Special Needs' in it's name? which perhaps is one element for the re-branding to iGo. Maybe there is general consensus that people prefer big vehicles when they want to ride a bus.
When do you see this service Adam? If Saturdays and School Holidays then that happens to be when many OAPs, certainly the less able ones who would find such a service a godsend would avoid going to town.
I have seen it numerous times during school days just after school time. They are always empty. My nan gets on the one after 09:30 every Thursday. She says she is the only one.
seen today, SF08GJV, HY12RMV/RNA/RNJ/RNU BU14YUB,VX14BZD (1411), also HY12RNV, ??57FNJ, (NOT IN LIST) at south depot, and SF08GJX at TAY ROAD
the igo deckers is at east B'ham & the other is at Tay rd for a school contract here is the east b'ham one https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16198609896/
Where does the 240 terminate now cradley interchange is closed ?
seen today at Calthorpe School
702/805/24/25/28/30/39/44/45/48/ 902/27 1025/30/31/35/48/50/52/55/76/77/78/79/80/81/82/86/87/88/95/96/10100/10 WX57OLB,WX08BCZ/BDF/BDU KX07KPV
I think we can honestly say that the 1915 226 ex merry hill is a FTO by any standards tonight.
Did you get any response about the last FTO they had?
@the trainbasher
@bususer12 no. Apparently the bus that did the 2015 tonight hadn't done anything on there before so I think both 1915 226s FTO
Any one know what service KX08LJA is on thanks
In advance for tommorow: can anyone tell me if the primos on the 240 please
seen today at Wolverhampton bus station, KX58LJC,KX09CKC on 53, KX07HDV,KX08OLC on 22
seen today at Wolverhampton bus station, KX57FNL, KX08OLA on 53, KX09CKC, KX58LJC on 22
Igo bus out today on 61 service in Wolverhampton
Igo solo sr on the 226 parked up outside the one Chinese in Brierley Hill.
Igo to get a Chinese takeaway!
New 298, 299 route
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/10943496_10152980738088116_1936792667_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=c67e4c047945eb983d5d6cc5a12c2489&oe=54C491CE&__gda__=1422160927_43afac4952381244aa0b8abb0761322c)
@the trainbasher They kept that quiet, presumably to cover the few stops of the 240 which are not served by any other service. Not shown on Network West Midlands site either!
a change to them was in the notices and proceedings this morning too.
It'll be covering the between the Hadcroft and Lye parts of the 240 then following the 287 to get back on route...
Customers in New Farm Road will have a more direct route to Stourbridge!
Today's 14 in merry hill is anonymous looking SN59AXA.
Ironically this has previously been to merry hill on the 214, but under which operator?
Quote from: the trainbasher on January 26, 2015, 08:27:38 AM
Today's 14 in merry hill is anonymous looking SN59AXA.
Ironically this has previously been to merry hill on the 214, but under which operator?
@the trainbasher Arriva when they operated the route I remember going on this one on the 214 a few years back. 8)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/7118880909/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/7118880909/)
Quote from: the trainbasher on January 26, 2015, 08:27:38 AM
Today's 14 in merry hill is anonymous looking SN59AXA.
Ironically this has previously been to merry hill on the 214, but under which operator?
Any pics train basher
@Rainman13 not able to upload yet as I'm in Manchester currently
Quote from: the trainbasher on January 26, 2015, 03:04:12 PM
@Rainman13 not able to upload yet as I'm in Manchester currently
@the trainbasher at least you won't be spotted in Manchester!
@Nathan wrong. I've been observed by a couple of spotters in Manchester (including one photoing the arriva e300 I was on!)
Quote from: the trainbasher on January 26, 2015, 07:02:48 PM
@Nathan wrong. I've been observed by a couple of spotters in Manchester (including one photoing the arriva e300 I was on!)
Ha Ha ;D Is there anywhere you can go without being spotted?
@Nathan I think the only place I don't get spotted is the Gents...
Quote from: Rainman13 on January 26, 2015, 02:20:30 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on January 26, 2015, 08:27:38 AM
Today's 14 in merry hill is anonymous looking SN59AXA.
Ironically this has previously been to merry hill on the 214, but under which operator?
Any pics @the trainbasher
Here you go...
http://www.busphotography.co.uk/picture.php?/11035/category/60
Coventry services 41 and 47 had 0530 YX55FSA for a couple of trips with paper stickers until the usual Primo appeared.
Yellow e200 on 14 today
I think that was at wednesbury a while back
@Matt @Trident 4194 that's the only one that's in yellow in the fleet allocated to Frankley depot
Here's a novelty - grey VW Transporter B16F 10109 (YX06CUW) was operating on the 168 today, complete with working electronic destination display! :o
http://wmbusphotos.com/Ring+Ride/yx06cuw.html
Quote from: Matt on January 31, 2015, 05:36:51 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 31, 2015, 01:10:58 PM
Yellow e200 on 14 today
My dad saw KX09 GJJ passing through Halesowen earlier not in service, might be that
here is the said bus on service 24 when it was at wednsbury https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/11608760405/in/set-72157631866711379
The 20/21 are pretty much solid Primo, I saw an Enviro on there once, a couple of weeks ago
Quote from: Sh4318 on February 01, 2015, 12:13:40 PM
The 20/21 are pretty much solid Primo, I saw an Enviro on there once, a couple of weeks ago
i thought wednsbury was primo's only
Quote from: Solo1 on February 01, 2015, 01:11:34 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on February 01, 2015, 12:13:40 PM
The 20/21 are pretty much solid Primo, I saw an Enviro on there once, a couple of weeks ago
i thought wednsbury was primo's only
It was a plain white Enviro with black window surrounds and no logos, if that helps
Tay rd bus 139 YD63UZX
Has had a new rear bumper different to the other 3
Optare solo SR's
UZX and GVZ on the 226 today
Fleet re-numbering
On the 226 today
YY64GWC fleet no 4018
KX58GTF fleet no 4006
The 44 has
KX59CYZ fleet no 4010
If I see any more ill post them
New solo SR coming soon I hear...
Quote from: Rainman13 on February 15, 2015, 01:13:13 PM
Fleet re-numbering
On the 226 today
YY64GWC fleet no 4018
KX58GTF fleet no 4006
The 44 has
KX59CYZ fleet no 4010
If I see any more ill post them
4017 is gwa which is on the 226
4019 is the other one of the 39 trio.
YD63UZX 139
Optare solo
Re-numberd
2103
And now in IGO livery
On the 19
Seen about 745am in cotteridge
Kx06lyj on the 299 today
http://busphotography.co.uk/picture.php?/11089/category/60
Any reason for them putting e200 on 14, when it was 240 it was a primo?
SN59AXA is 4012 - running 10 down on the 299
I thought it was 10 Solos but who am I
@igogeneral Welcome to the forum. Cheers for confirming how many - the person I heard it from said there were some coming but not exactly how many. Is it true that some are for East Birmingham depot?
Not sure if igo are having any at all at the moment or where they are going if they arrive. I suppose it is watch this space or keep listening to the person that told you there would be three at East. The place to go for the most up to date news when it happens will be www.wmsntbusservices.com
Quote from: igogeneral on February 20, 2015, 05:48:07 PM
Not sure if igo are having any at all at the moment or where they are going if they arrive. I suppose it is watch this space or keep listening to the person that told you there would be three at East. The place to go for the most up to date news when it happens will be www.wmsntbusservices.com
You mean http://busservices.wmsnt.org/ (your link doesn't work)
Solo 105 is now 2013
What bus operates on 122?
How much is a return on the 19 Frankley - Maypole?
How much is a Igo/WMSNT Day Ticket?
Quote from: Reece on February 21, 2015, 10:17:27 PM
How much is a return on the 19 Frankley - Maypole?
How much is a Igo/WMSNT Day Ticket?
@Reece you're best off getting the nBus ticket...
seen today at East depot,KX07HFJ, YJ58CFA,LT02ZZG/ZZK, 1401/1403,
Seen at Aston earlier this week YK05 CDX now numbered 2006
Former WMSNT envrio from east B'ham is now with solus of tamworth https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16489116579/
136 is now 2102. On the 226 with igo logos fitted
Quote from: Stu on February 20, 2015, 06:02:36 PM
Quote from: igogeneral on February 20, 2015, 05:48:07 PM
Not sure if igo are having any at all at the moment or where they are going if they arrive. I suppose it is watch this space or keep listening to the person that told you there would be three at East. The place to go for the most up to date news when it happens will be www.wmsntbusservices.com
You mean http://busservices.wmsnt.org/ (your link doesn't work)
this link doesn't work
There's a bus that about 8:25 goes past halesowen, presumably for the 14, was the yellow enviro today, and Thursday was the primo
KX56RXT & 0739 Were both at Coventry depot today.
Quote from: Solo1 on March 01, 2015, 09:56:02 PM
Quote from: Stu on February 20, 2015, 06:02:36 PM
Quote from: igogeneral on February 20, 2015, 05:48:07 PM
Not sure if igo are having any at all at the moment or where they are going if they arrive. I suppose it is watch this space or keep listening to the person that told you there would be three at East. The place to go for the most up to date news when it happens will be www.wmsntbusservices.com
You mean http://busservices.wmsnt.org/ (your link doesn't work)
this link doesn't work
They must be in the process of changing websites. The link on the Ring And Ride website goes to http://www.wmsntbusservices.org/ but that doesn't work either.
138 is now fleet number 2101 (1915, 2115, 2315 off Dudley, 2015, 2215 off merry hill)
137 is now 2104
Quote from: Stu on March 02, 2015, 07:54:10 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on March 01, 2015, 09:56:02 PM
Quote from: Stu on February 20, 2015, 06:02:36 PM
Quote from: igogeneral on February 20, 2015, 05:48:07 PM
Not sure if igo are having any at all at the moment or where they are going if they arrive. I suppose it is watch this space or keep listening to the person that told you there would be three at East. The place to go for the most up to date news when it happens will be www.wmsntbusservices.com
You mean http://busservices.wmsnt.org/ (your link doesn't work)
this link doesn't work
They must be in the process of changing websites. The link on the Ring And Ride website goes to http://www.wmsntbusservices.org/ but that doesn't work either.
I contacted IGO/WMSNT through their Facebook page, they say they are aware of the website issue and it is being worked on.
the link is now working http://www.ringandride.org/busservices/
has anyone seen any of the following please ? (if so where ?)
KX07KOA/KOE/KOD, KX07KNW, KX57FKW/FMJ, VX62HFR
THANKS
KU02 YUB seen in town today on the 10 renumbered 5003
A friend visited Aston today & saw KX15 BHJ/K/L all in white on the depot.He didn't say what type.
Solo SR slightly shorter then UZV/W/X/Y
They look nice
If I'm correct there fleet numbers will be
BHJ 2105
BHK 2106
BHL 2107
1236 HN12KGE seen at Asda Minworth today.
Thanks for reply Solo 1.
24 15 down off Cradley heath foxyards bound and almost missed out the estate between Old Hill and Cradley (only because he forgot the turning!)
seen today, KX57OVC at Wednesbury, KX07KOA,KX57FKV at Dudley, 1231 (my last RR ) at Lye Depot.
3 new Optare Solo's on 424 service from next Wednesday, vehicles based Aston. Almost 20% of igo fleet now less than 2 years old. igo branding continues with the older fleet so WMSNT brand of all vehicles within 4 weeks
@igogeneral do you happen to know what vehicles will be having what fleet numbers?
The yellow e200 GJJ is 4007
Big day for igo tomorrow, new buses on the 424. Livery designed by the renowned John Everill
Saw an Igo bus today with a notice saying that if you pay by cash, you will receive a ticket for your journey, please ask the driver. If you pay by cash, isn't it the law that you must be given a ticket?
@Stuharris 6360 those notices have been up for ages...I think 12/18 months at least!
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 11, 2015, 08:19:55 PM
@Stuharris 6360 those notices have been up for ages...I think 12/18 months at least!
@the trainbasher Oh right Tom, shows how often i catch Igo.
2105 just seen in Birmingham with its new livery made for the 424
the new 15 reg solo sr https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16770346236/
Quote from: Solo1 on March 12, 2015, 07:31:27 PM
the new 15 reg solo sr https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16770346236/
Looks nice, what operates on 39?
Quote from: Solo1 on March 12, 2015, 07:31:27 PM
the new 15 reg solo sr https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16770346236/
Ooh I say :D
They're changing my hours at work soon and the first 424 of the day would be perfect timing, would be further to walk than from Lichfield Rd but damn it'll be quieter
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 12, 2015, 07:43:55 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on March 12, 2015, 07:31:27 PM
the new 15 reg solo sr https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16770346236/
Looks nice, what operates on 39?
envrios
https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/15556426650/in/set-72157631866711379
Quote from: Solo1 on March 12, 2015, 07:31:27 PM
the new 15 reg solo sr https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16770346236/
To be honest, imo the design of the bus is vile!
No livery will suit all but at least you looked and knew it was igo and that is what it is all about.
will the 3 solos that was on 424 now be used on the 96/99 service in acocks green when igo start running the service
Quote from: Solo1 on March 12, 2015, 10:06:00 PM
will the 3 solos that was on 424 now be used on the 96/99 service in acocks green when igo start running the service
As the vehicles are branded for the 424 then I suspect not !
Caught 2107 into town on the 424 this morning to sample one of their new solos, lots of old people on board commenting how nice it was and hoping "they won't give the route back to the other lot...". I wonder who they were referring to lol...
Quote from: Kevin on March 14, 2015, 01:30:28 PM
Caught 2107 into town on the 424 this morning to sample one of their new solos, lots of old people on board commenting how nice it was and hoping "they won't give the route back to the other lot...". I wonder who they were referring to lol...
Well I'd certainly take VIP over diamond any day :) at least VIP were more reliable when I tried their 424 Once!
What is the 19s reliability like?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 14, 2015, 01:53:24 PM
What is the 19s reliability like?
Dreadful in a word. Plus the SR's for the alternative specification contract are frequently not on there.
Quote from: DiamondDart on March 14, 2015, 01:56:06 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 14, 2015, 01:53:24 PM
What is the 19s reliability like?
Dreadful in a word. Plus the SR's for the alternative specification contract are frequently not on there.
What other buses go on there then?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 14, 2015, 02:01:35 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on March 14, 2015, 01:56:06 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 14, 2015, 01:53:24 PM
What is the 19s reliability like?
Dreadful in a word. Plus the SR's for the alternative specification contract are frequently not on there.
What other buses go on there then?
Standard solos fairly often.
the 3rd solo SR on 424 https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16637337188/
Quote from: DiamondDart on March 14, 2015, 01:56:06 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 14, 2015, 01:53:24 PM
What is the 19s reliability like?
Dreadful in a word. Plus the SR's for the alternative specification contract are frequently not on there.
Sorry to say that 19 reliability is not the best in the World but igo do not devise the timetable but it is as good as it has ever been and has improved now the lights at the Black Horse have been improved. The SR's are on the road 95% of the time other than safety inspections etc, they are not used on any other route and at the price of them they cannot afford to keep them in the garage to look at and they have WiFi so you can go on the forum when stuck in traffic. I hear there is more news coming soon, watch this space
2005 YK05CDV is on the 226
I can assure you their 95% time on the road won't last - the 4 at Diamond on the Signature services are dreadful.
Quote from: igogeneral on March 16, 2015, 07:08:52 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on March 14, 2015, 01:56:06 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 14, 2015, 01:53:24 PM
What is the 19s reliability like?
Dreadful in a word. Plus the SR's for the alternative specification contract are frequently not on there.
Sorry to say that 19 reliability is not the best in the World but igo do not devise the timetable but it is as good as it has ever been and has improved now the lights at the Black Horse have been improved. The SR's are on the road 95% of the time other than safety inspections etc, they are not used on any other route and at the price of them they cannot afford to keep them in the garage to look at and they have WiFi so you can go on the forum when stuck in traffic. I hear there is more news coming soon, watch this space
Glad you like the improvements to the Black Horse lights I got Amey to do!
Oh how I wish I was the owner, don't tell Des, he will have a hissy fit
YK05CDV was on the 226 again tonight. Bring back the SRs please!!!
Which ticket do I need to get if I want to do the whole of the 145 from Droitwich to Longbridge and the whole of route 19 as well?
Horrible 05 plate solo on the 226...again! Haven't igo got anything decent than this pile of turd? Maybe a nice SR solo or a E200...some quality would be appreciated!
Come back diamond all is forgiven!!
Is it me or are Igo drivers really impatient? One was hopping his horn this morning when the bus hadn't even reached his stand
Quote from: Matt on March 18, 2015, 07:21:01 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 18, 2015, 07:15:25 PM
Come back diamond all is forgiven!!
I wouldn't go that far
3 nights on the trot we've had 2005 and it's likely to be on the rest of the week for a guess.
The back pain giving, uncomfortable seats are intolerable.
sorry @Winston by the way
If what I've just seen is to do the 2115 off merry hill...I'm going to have a very bad back and my names Mr J Clarkson!
Edit - Anyone know where the nearest demolition derby is? the backbreaker delightful little 05 PLATE SOLO is back!!
Is the 298/299 ran by one bus. Because the driver seemed to be racing around the route.
@Chris2301 usually is a one bus working one duty of 298/299 then it swaps mid afternoon I believe to a different bus
Seems the delightful thing is on again tonight...
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 20, 2015, 07:40:41 PM
@Chris2301 usually is a one bus working one duty of 298/299 then it swaps mid afternoon I believe to a different bus
i always thought it was the same bus and same driver all day, there is no 11:52 298 departure so that is when the driver has his break.
Had my first ever ride on a primo today, wow! These are great buses, bit funny layout, driving at an average pace, didn't stop the whole way from oldbury to Bearwood
Which route 20, 21 or 122?
Igo are building up a network in Coventry...
27, 41 & 47
And now 30 :). Not much dead run from the depot on Henley Road :)
Quote from: Adam 404 on March 22, 2015, 10:46:05 AM
Igo are building up a network in Coventry...
27, 41 & 47
And now 30 :). Not much dead run from the depot on Henley Road :)
I sometimes see the bus which starts up/comes off the 27 service come in to town and leave town via Hearsall Common and Spon End, anybody explain that?
I see the Primo from the 41 & 47 go down Uplands in Stoke Heath at 15:20.
Driver of 2103 on 226 towards dudley was 6 minutes early at my stop due at 1449, went past at 43. No wonder its quiet when i manage to catch it
@bususer12 It seems he's got the early runs today as he's just left 5 early from my stop (expected 1554, actual 1549) meaning that I missed it going the other way!!
Ring & Ride 1058 on the 91 service this lunchtime at Chelmsley Wood.Not seen a Ring & Ride on an igo service before.
Quote from: Adam 404 on March 22, 2015, 01:05:26 PM
I see the Primo from the 41 & 47 go down Uplands in Stoke Heath at 15:20.
This bus is KX57FNK. I see it on Route 41 / 47 everyday.
Cdx is fleet number 2006
Wmsnt livery Primo on 424 today
Quote from: the trainbasher on April 01, 2015, 05:26:31 PM
Cdx is fleet number 2006
Wmsnt livery Primo on 424 today
wonder where the solo Sr was
KX08 OLB (WMSNT liveried) is on the 424
@Alex it should be back in city at 1300. it passed Centro House 5 minutes ago
YY64GWA is on 10H
Complete with new paintjob (and a really bad beeping noise!!)
Seen in Erdington this morning 123(SN59 AXB) & 126(T16 GAJ) on the 168
2104- great bus ! So fast and smooth and comfortable
WMSNTBUSSERVICES (IGO)
Have a few job vacancies if anyone is intrested
At Tay road (frankley depot)
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 18, 2015, 07:15:25 PM
Horrible 05 plate solo on the 226...again! Haven't igo got anything decent than this pile of turd? Maybe a nice SR solo or a E200...some quality would be appreciated!
Come back diamond all is forgiven!!
Shame really, most passengers prefer to get there than what vehicle they sit on. IGO now also has 10 buses less than 2 years old including 3x15 plates, sure one of you guys can tell us in percentage terms of new vehicles in the fleet that compares with some of the competition
what was wmsnt envrio KX59CYY doing in Halesowen bus station this afternoon not in service parked up in one of the bays her is the bus in Halesowen https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/17203103082/
@Solo1 Could have come off the 14 and going to head to depot?
Quote from: Solo1 on April 18, 2015, 07:16:18 PM
what was wmsnt envrio KX59CYY doing in Halesowen bus station this afternoon not in service parked up in one of the bays
CYY or CYV? I photographed CYV in Halesowen earlier on the 231
Didn't realise the 25 (Bloxwich - Kingstanding) ran on Sunday til I saw two in Aldridge this afternoon.
Quote from: Kevin on April 19, 2015, 01:49:57 PM
Didn't realise the 25 (Bloxwich - Kingstanding) ran on Sunday til I saw two in Aldridge this afternoon.
Apart from NWM's site, do non NXWM services get much promotion 'on the road' ?
Surprised some of these subsidised services get the custom?
Wonder how long this service will run?
There has been a report in the local freesheet, the online version I've reshared via a local community Facebook page, but the report is highly biased towards the Barr Beacon residents that requested the link.
Apart from sharing it on the Bloxwich News Network page, there's no promotion locally about the Bloxwich to Aldridge bit!
Quote from: Westy on April 19, 2015, 02:03:36 PM
There has been a report in the local freesheet, the online version I've reshared via a local community Facebook page, but the report is highly biased towards the Barr Beacon residents that requested the link.
Weirdly... It does make it the best bus to really serve Barr Beacon
Quote from: the trainbasher on April 18, 2015, 07:39:54 PM
@Solo1 Could have come off the 14 and going to head to depot?
I saw this about 3-4 pm
Quote from: Kevin on April 19, 2015, 02:33:59 PM
Weirdly... It does make it the best bus to really serve Barr Beacon
From what I know of the area, it's a nice little run out.
I just hope the Bloxwich to Aldridge section gets a few passengers too!
The Plaxton Primo on the 41/47 in Coventry has been swapped with a plain Enviro 200.
The Volkswagen is still on the 27...
Driver of 30 in Coventry this morning said he's going to be working for Igo from next Monday with a new bus when they take over the contract.
@JoNi he's probably either applied to go there or has been TUPEed over
I don't know the arrangements regarding tender changes in West Midlands, but contracts are often won which result in worse conditions for the driver and also affects things like pensions. I appreciate this is a complicated subject, but good luck to the chap and I hope he won't be worse off.
Quote from: JoNi on April 22, 2015, 10:58:11 AM
I don't know the arrangements regarding tender changes in West Midlands, but contracts are often won which result in worse conditions for the driver and also affects things like pensions. I appreciate this is a complicated subject, but good luck to the chap and I hope he won't be worse off.
If you are TUPE'd over then you can't be worse off. That's the point of TUPE
Quote from: Tony on April 22, 2015, 11:31:05 AM
If you are TUPE'd over then you can't be worse off. That's the point of TUPE
No Tony, that's the
principle of TUPE. There are ways that dodgy employers can use to circumnavigate proceedings.
Quote from: dave47549 (no longer NEL111P) on April 22, 2015, 12:07:53 PM
No Tony, that's the principle of TUPE. There are ways that dodgy employers can use to circumnavigate proceedings.
Have no fears he will be well looked after and no worse off and may well be better off. Certainly have a better vehicle to drive of that you can be assured
Quote from: Winston on April 27, 2015, 03:13:36 PM
@nxwmbusfan1999 the 96/99 is operated by Igo from today
photographed E200 KX57FMC on 99 to acocks green
im guessing 96/99s allocation is E200s :)
Picture- https://www.flickr.com/photos/115199517@N06/17288923252/
On 99 today 30/04/15
YX56JUC Plaxton Primo AG-Lea Village
SN59AXC ADL E200 Lea Village-AG
KX57FNK Primo on 99
At Sheldon 1449 to acocks green
Does anybody know the reg of the Primo painted in the Poppy Appeal livery?
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on May 05, 2015, 05:34:48 PM
Does anybody know the reg of the Primo painted in the Poppy Appeal livery?
KX08HML is in Poppy livery
I photographed this in Wolverhampton once
https://www.flickr.com/photos/115199517@N06/16956794245/in/set-72157644758640410
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on May 05, 2015, 05:52:04 PM
KX08HML is in Poppy livery
I photographed this in Wolverhampton once
https://www.flickr.com/photos/115199517@N06/16956794245/in/set-72157644758640410
Cheers mate :)
2106 on 25
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on May 05, 2015, 05:52:04 PM
KX08HML is in Poppy livery
I photographed this in Wolverhampton once
https://www.flickr.com/photos/115199517@N06/16956794245/in/set-72157644758640410
That was in Wednesbury the other day.
Solo YK05 CDX has been on the 424 today with a piece of paper in the window for a route display
Quote from: Kevin on May 09, 2015, 04:45:14 PM
Solo YK05 CDX has been on the 424 today with a piece of paper in the window for a route display
I thought that one was used on adult services & so wasn't used for psv work was also out today as well https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/17552140670/in/dateposted-public/
YX06CUW on 96/99 today
KX55APY driver training bus at Tay rd
BU04GVD 6wheel fiat bus bk at tay rd
128 YJ58PGV is now fleet number 2009
109 YJ59PKN I am going to hazard a guess is fleet number 2011 as it fits in with the other 2 Solos of the batch
Also 7008 YX61BFO is in service - http://www.busphotography.co.uk/picture.php?/11298/category/60
I've knocked up a route list (based on what routes they run according to their website along with statring to add what is usually allocated and where the routes are based out of.
As you can see it is incomplete so would folks be able to help with it please? (it is editable online)
Cheers
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?page=view&resid=806DC7EACDC03046!114&authkey=!AEpQhxMzaMhSZlA
61 Wolverhampton primo in blue 107 I think the fleet no is
Quote from: Solo1 on May 21, 2015, 03:52:19 PM
61 Wolverhampton primo in blue 107 I think the fleet no is
That is the allocated bus to the 61 Mark!
Quote from: the trainbasher on May 21, 2015, 12:45:36 AM
I've knocked up a route list (based on what routes they run according to their website along with statring to add what is usually allocated and where the routes are based out of.
As you can see it is incomplete so would folks be able to help with it please? (it is editable online)
Cheers
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?page=view&resid=806DC7EACDC03046!114&authkey=!AEpQhxMzaMhSZlA
Ive Edited 96/99 route
included depot and allocation
@the trainbasher
Igo unusual working - Solo 2009 is on the 14 today.
It's not unusual its been on there lots lately
If it's on there tommorow can someone let me know please
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 22, 2015, 05:44:30 PM
If it's on there tommorow can someone let me know please
It is ment to be on there only out between 1155 and 1655 though
@Lee 139 do you work for igo? How do you know?
Quote from: the trainbasher on May 17, 2015, 11:25:50 PM
128 YJ58PGV is now fleet number 2009
109 YJ59PKN I am going to hazard a guess is fleet number 2011 as it fits in with the other 2 Solos of the batch
Also 7008 YX61BFO is in service - http://www.busphotography.co.uk/picture.php?/11298/category/60
It's back! It was with them in 2012 http://wmbusphotos.com/Ring+Ride/YX61BFO.html
Hi all you spotters, keep a look out on the 10 and 10H from Wednesday ?
24 Wednesbury
25,Aston
27,30,41,47, Coventry
28a,40,83,800,s20,s21,s23 Elmdon
44 Frankley
61 Wolverhampton
Quote from: igogeneral on May 24, 2015, 11:03:26 AM
24 Wednesbury
25,Aston
27,30,41,47, Coventry
28a,40,83,800,s20,s21,s23 Elmdon
44 Frankley
61 Wolverhampton
Cheers
@igogeneral :)
Quote from: igogeneral on May 24, 2015, 10:54:40 AM
Hi all you spotters, keep a look out on the 10 and 10H from Wednesday ?
as a guess 3 new buses on there or a bus on hire on there
Not even close, just remember to take your camera !!! ;)
@igogeneral would you happen to know when the Primos will be getting their fleet numbers and what ones they will carry?
Cheers
1615 226 off merry hill has FTO
Quote from: igogeneral on May 24, 2015, 02:38:28 PM
Not even close, just remember to take your camera !!! ;)
Double decker? How long will the change last?
How's the Sunday Bloxwich to Kingstanding 25 doing?
Quote from: igogeneral on May 24, 2015, 10:54:40 AM
Hi all you spotters, keep a look out on the 10 and 10H from Wednesday ?
any clues
Looks like some of the staff cannot keep secrets but never mind.
Sunday service on the 25 picking up now that Centro have decided to promote, only 4 weeks late.
Any body any news on London bus immobiliser keys, igo needs some
Quote from: igogeneral on May 25, 2015, 11:21:57 AM
Looks like some of the staff cannot keep secrets but never mind.
Sunday service on the 25 picking up now that Centro have decided to promote, only 4 weeks late.
Any body any news on London bus immobiliser keys, igo needs some
I was shown how to start them by just touching the terminals in the correct order with anything metal when I was driving the Travel London Tridents. I've forgotton the combination now!
Quote from: igogeneral on May 25, 2015, 11:21:57 AM
Sunday service on the 25 picking up now that Centro have decided to promote, only 4 weeks late.
Is that across the whole route, or just across the Aldridge to Kingstanding bit?
Quote from: Tony on May 25, 2015, 11:40:56 AM
I was shown how to start them by just touching the terminals in the correct order with anything metal when I was driving the Travel London Tridents. I've forgotton the combination now!
Thanks Tony, that's what they do now but bit of a bind driving round with a wood screw in your pocket and it is a big job to disable the equipment apparently
Quote from: Westy on May 25, 2015, 01:11:14 PM
Is that across the whole route, or just across the Aldridge to Kingstanding bit?
All the route, drivers love it based on the old saying that bus driving would be a great job if it wasn't for passengers !!
are R&R not having any 15 reg. new buses ??
Quote from: Ken Taylor on May 26, 2015, 08:36:15 PM
are R&R not having any 15 reg. new buses ??
They have 3 KX15BHJ/K/L they are
Optare solo sr's
Based at Aston depot
424 branded
Quote from: Lee 139 on May 26, 2015, 09:45:13 PM
They have 3 KX15BHJ/K/L they are
Optare solo sr's
Based at Aston depot
424 branded
@Lee 139 those were for the bus service division. I think @Ken Taylor is referring to the Ring and Ride division.
Quote from: Solo1 on May 24, 2015, 11:22:14 PM
any clues
Sorry everyone but nothing special on the 10/10H today, not ready
yes I was, thanks
Anything special recognised on 10H last couple of days
I saw 2 darts on there unless it was
the other bus or will it be out tomorrow
Decker LT02 ZZK on the 10H this lunchtime
Quote from: broma1k on May 29, 2015, 09:58:38 PM
Decker LT02 ZZK on the 10H this lunchtime
I said it would be deckers
Didn't see it
It's on there today... I think I saw it yesterday also, around Five Ways Roundabout...
Quote from: clayderman on June 03, 2015, 04:47:42 PM
It's on there today... I think I saw it yesterday also, around Five Ways Roundabout...
Is this becoming a regular occurance now?
Igo have been buying again out in west brom today primo https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/18346822609/in/dateposted-public/
Caught the 25 today, all the way from Bloxwich to Kingstanding. No one else on board and no one on the other two when we passed them en route.
Fantastic route though
Quote from: Kevin on June 07, 2015, 06:28:10 PM
Caught the 25 today, all the way from Bloxwich to Kingstanding. No one else on board and no one on the other two when we passed them en route.
Fantastic route though
Doesn't bode well for it staying on long term, does it?
Trident LT02ZZK has broke down
At Chelmsey Wood 0940
KX57FMJ now carries the fleetnumber 3011 and is at Coventry depot
http://www.busphotography.co.uk/picture.php?/11638/category/60
2009 YJ58PGV on the 14 today just on the diversion round Merry Hill
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 02, 2015, 02:21:29 PM
2009 YJ58PGV on the 14 today just on the diversion round Merry Hill
Are solos usual on 14?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 02, 2015, 04:19:49 PM
Are solos usual on 14?
I don't think so.
4007 did the usual swap at 1550 at the fatherless barn end of the 14
Seen on the Hagley Road yesterday YK05 CDU with fleet number 2004 & later in the Black Country KX08 HMA with fleet number 3017
1. PD0001129/22 - WMSNT (HOLDINGS) LIMITED, 80, PARK ROAD, VIA UPPER THOMAS STREET, ASTON, BIRMINGHAM, B6 5PL
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Stratford Road, Hockley Heath
Finish Point: Dingle Lane, Solihull, Blossomfield Road School
Via: Marshall Lake Estate
Service Number: 811
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 01-SEP-2015
Other Details: Monday to Friday, school term time only
E200 123 passed my house 1010 on 99
heading wrong way
it's meant to come up Marcot road and go right down to gilberstone avenue and onto clay lane
(Didn't get picture)
What is used on the 288/298/299 routes? Is it just a random bus?
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on July 29, 2015, 06:20:33 PM
What is used on the 288/298/299 routes? Is it just a random bus?
Solo on the 298/299 which interworks
E200 usually on the 288
Ok thanks trainbasher :)
Forgot to mention I saw an MPD on the 10H on Friday if this is worth a mention.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on July 29, 2015, 06:51:25 PM
Forgot to mention I saw an MPD on the 10H on Friday if this is worth a mention.
they run 3 darts on the 10h
Quote from: Solo1 on July 29, 2015, 09:52:26 PM
they run 3 darts on the 10h
He said mpd? Mini dart?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 30, 2015, 09:43:13 AM
He said mpd? Mini dart?
The darts are 27 29 or 30 seater
Primo KX57FMJ on the 288 and Solo KX06LYJ on the inter working 298/299 today.
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on July 30, 2015, 04:23:37 PM
Primo KX57FMJ on the 288 and Solo KX06LYJ on the inter working 298/299 today.
That solo is booked to run on there.
The primo will now be on the 14
Ok thanks for the info trainbasher
Quote from: Solo1 on July 30, 2015, 01:39:32 PM
The darts are 27 29 or 30 seater
The double door ones are normal. Never seen anything other than those, thats why I thought the MPD was worth a mention.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on July 30, 2015, 06:59:02 PM
The double door ones are normal. Never seen anything other than those, thats why I thought the MPD was worth a mention.
RXR seems to make an appearance a lot too (white dart with single door) whenever I see the 10
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 30, 2015, 07:01:27 PM
RXR seems to make an appearance a lot too (white dart with single door) whenever I see the 10
I usually see two branded ones but one with urban 90 seats as well!!
Seems that igo have changed their name today on the 1915 ex merry hill to nogo...as I'm waiting for it up thetrmad in Brierley Hill and it's no going anywhere as it hasn't come!
this was out today on 91 service https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/19900554703/in/dateposted-public/
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 17, 2012, 09:42:18 PM
What routes do WMSNT operate I know there 424 & the 91 (Birmingham Airport - Chelsmey Wood) are there anymore
Hi Nathan4775
The services that Igo/WMSNT operate are as follows:
10/10H (Birmingham-Quinton via Harborne)
14 (Brierley Hill-Fatherless Barn via Merry Hill) was service 240 (Stourbridge-Cradley Heath)
19 (Frankley-Maypole via West Heath)
20/21/122 (Bearwood-Oldbury via Brandhall 20 via Londonderry and via Langley Green 122)
22 (Wolverhampton-Wednesbury via Great Bridge)
24 (Merry Hill Centre Dudley-Foxyards Estate part of Dudley via Dudley Bus Station)
24 (Walsall Wood-Catshill via Brownhills)
25 (Bloxwich-Kingstanding via Aldridge)
27 (Coventry-Willenhall via Whitley)
28A (Small Heath-Ward End via Bordesley Green)
30 (Coventry-Lentons Lane) Circular
39 (Longbridge-Worlds End via Northfield) as John has stated
39A (Longbridge-Woodgate Valley South via Northfield) as John has stated
39B (Bromsgrove-Bournville College via Alvechurch, Catshill, Barnt Green and Hopwood) Term Time only
39H Hagley-Bournville College via Stourbridge and Halesowen) Term Time only
39R Beoley-Bournville College via Halesowen Term Time only
39S (Longbridge-Worlds End via Summerfield Road and Stephen Avenue) I'm not quite sure it this service operates all year round or just term time only
40 (Springfield-The Baldwin Yardley Wood via Acocks Green)
41 (Coventry-Stonehouse Estate via Whitley) Circular as John has stated
42 (Hollymoor Way-West Heath via Longbridge)
44 (West Bromwich-Tipton via Great Bridge)
47 (Coventry-Cannon Park via Canley Station) as John has stated
53 (Wolverhampton-Rocket Pool via New Cross Hospital)
61 (Wolverhampton-Goldthorn Park via Dudley Road) as John has stated
64 (West Bromwich-Wednesbury via Sandwell Hospital and Hill Top)
65 (Woods Estate either part of Wood Green or Friar Park-Darlaston via Wednesbury)
83 (Meriden-Solihull via Berkswell, Balsall Common and Barston,
91 (Birmingham International Station-Chelmsley Wood via Marston Green) as you have stated
96 (Acocks Green Circular via Sheldon)
99 (Acocks Green-Lea Village via Sheldon)
145 (Droitwich-Rubery via Bromsgrove and Longbridge)
167 (Eardington-Sutton Coldfield via Minworth Village)
168 (Eardington-Sutton Coldfield via New Hall Estate)
223 (Solihull-Kingsbury via Coleshill and Water Orton)
226 (Merry Hill Centre Dudley-Dudley Bus Station via Kingswinford) Monday-Friday evenings and all day Sunday
288 (Stourbridge-Norton via Pedmore and Oldswinford)
298 (Stourbridge-Pedmore-Stourbridge) Clockwise Circular
299 (Stourbridge-Pedmore-Stourbridge) Anti-Clockwise Circular
303 (County Bridge-Bilston via Willenhall/Wolverhampton not Coventry)
424/424E (Birmingham-Thornbridge Avenue Perry Beeches via Perry Barr used to be operated by VIP but now is Igo/WMSNT. So John was correct but now is not)
425 (Replaced by services 424/424E)
800 (Gressel Lane part of Tile Cross-Gressel Lane part of Tile Cross via Heartlands Hospital), Circular, Term Time Only, Withdrawn from....
811 Stratford Road-Solihull via Marshall Lake Estate (Term Time Only Starts 30 August according to Network West Midlands)
S1 (Solihull Circular via Damson Parkway) Sundays only
S16 (South Yardley Swan Centre-Solihull Mel Square via Lyndon)
S20 (Tile Cross-Chelmsley Wood) Mon only Flexi link
S21 (Becon's End-Smith's Wood via Kingshurst) Mon, Thurs and Fri only Flexi link
S23 (Bromford-Minworth Asda via Castle Vale) Fri only Flexi link
Hope to here from you
800 is withdrawn &new service 811 Stratford rd -solihull to start when the schools go back in September
any one know why the yellow envrio was painted blue rather than into igo livery
KU52RXR on 424 (usually Solo SR)
Where can I find the two tridents igo have?
Ok. Do they not do normal services then?
They did a couple of weeks on the 10, so you have missed your chance for the time being
YX08FLA 117 - 99 (Usually Primos/ Enviro 200's)
Quote from: Tony on October 01, 2015, 09:55:04 PM
They did a couple of weeks on the 10, so you have missed your chance for the time being
Tridents taken off the 10 due to low trees along the route and so far Amey have been unable to prune them back. Shame because some years ago this was always a double deck route
Some kind of minibus on the 96/99 today, only saw it from a distance from my window, think it was the Bluebird bodied VW Transporter.
EDIT: it was 7008, the Ducato, saw it again today, in igo livery now.
WMSNT (ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT SERVICES) LTD, 80 PARK ROAD
ASTON, BIRMINGHAM, B6 5PL
Permit Number: CB000921
Route Number: 22
Operating Between: Walsall, St Pauls Street Bus Station and Walsall, St Pauls Street Bus Station.
Application to Register Received: 09/10/2015
Effective Date: 16/11/2015.
Permit Number: CB000932, 783, 784, 785.
Route Number: 53
Operating Between: Erdington, Wilton Markets and Auckland Drive, Smiths Wood.
Application to Register Received: 09/10/2015
Quote from: Stu on October 14, 2015, 11:00:23 AM
Some kind of minibus on the 96/99 today, only saw it from a distance from my window, think it was the Bluebird bodied VW Transporter.
EDIT: it was 7008, the Ducato, saw it again today, in igo livery now.
Not sure 7008 is a Ducato is it ?
igo taking on the 53 Smiths Wood to Erdington in November with 4 branded Optares. New fares for NHS staff and visitors to Heartlands with these new fares extended to 168 and 28A services, both interworking services. Two extra early departures from Smiths Wood. Service to be operated from Elmdon with the 167/168 running's moving to Aston. Also at the same time service 22, Walsall Circular, operated by igo running from Wednesbury.
Don't say I never tell you anything
BX65 FTC(1505) seen picking up at Morrisons Castle Bromwich this morning
Apparently there was a Primo on the 424 today. Was asked by a friend if this was regular or not.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on October 27, 2015, 11:24:37 PM
Apparently there was a Primo on the 424 today. Was asked by a friend if this was regular or not.
Normal Optare in for safety inspection
BX65FTE seen in Solihull today.
Optare Solo 2009 on the 288 today.
Can somebody at Igo remember that it is Oldswinford, not old Swinford.
Ring & Ride BX65 FUG(1504) seen this lunchtime parked up in Morrisons(Castle Bromwich) Car Park
is a new fleet list (with allocations) possible please ??
Flex link bus on 91 us seen at nec
7008 is on the 99 today
- in Acocks Green at about 15:15
The Erdington 53 service is using a white 'KX14' (maybe more than one) Solo SR with route branding. Looks very smart, near identical to the 424 Solo SRs
Quote from: John on November 17, 2015, 02:30:18 PM
The Erdington 53 service is using a white 'KX14' (maybe more than one) Solo SR with route branding. Looks very smart, near identical to the 424 Solo SRs
Don't you mean KX15? ;)
Quote from: Michael Bevan on November 17, 2015, 02:46:38 PM
Don't you mean KX15? ;)
More than certain it was a 14 plate, passed it twice today. Possible new additions?
Quote from: John on November 17, 2015, 02:53:32 PM
More than certain it was a 14 plate, passed it twice today. Possible new additions?
A batch of 14 plate Solo SR's have recently returned off lease from Malta, it sounds like it may well be one of those.
How many buses does the route require, just 1?
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on November 17, 2015, 03:27:39 PM
How many buses does the route require, just 1?
The 53 still has a Pvr of 4 I believe
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on November 17, 2015, 03:27:39 PM
How many buses does the route require, just 1?
Looking at the timetable, it looks like 4 buses are needed
Blue WMSNT Plaxton Primo on the 28A today
Not seen one on there for a while
And, I have to say...
Yesterday was the first time in god knows how long that I've seen a 53 running on time through Nechells
Seen at Castle Bromwich on the 53 KX07 KNW & KX14 FJF
http://www.ringandride.org/News/newbuses.html
Decker on 10H
Quote from: Winston on November 17, 2015, 02:56:06 PM
A batch of 14 plate Solo SR's have recently returned off lease from Malta, it sounds like it may well be one of those.
how many new solos do they have for 53 as the have 1 primo 2 solo sr's I know about
Quote from: Kevin on November 18, 2015, 06:45:48 AM
And, I have to say...
Yesterday was the first time in god knows how long that I've seen a 53 running on time through Nechells
Don't get used to it, 12:15 ex: Erdington today (KX14FJC) departed 9 mins late. Compliance fail.
Quote from: dave47549 (no longer NEL111P) on November 20, 2015, 07:18:01 PM
Don't get used to it, 12:15 ex: Erdington today (KX14FJC) departed 9 mins late. Compliance fail.
Still better than Diamond were managing so far, even been seeing the one due on Long Acre at 18:05 north to Erdington on me way home from work. Never seen that journey under Diamond even the few times I walked up to Erdington after work
Not sure on as to why there is news on iGo's website named "Hello World"
http://busservices.wmsnt.org/hello-world/
Quote from: Adam 404 on November 21, 2015, 09:06:30 PM
Not sure on as to why there is news on iGo's website named "Hello World"
http://busservices.wmsnt.org/hello-world/
It's a default blog post created when Wordpress is installed. :)
Quote from: Stu on November 22, 2015, 10:11:51 AM
It's a default blog post created when Wordpress is installed. :)
I'm just confused as they already had created news on the page, that's all... :D
KX14 FHU another solo seen this afternoon on the 53
Quote from: broma1k on November 23, 2015, 04:48:22 PM
KX14 FHU another solo seen this afternoon on the 53
Ex Malta leased fleet:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dlg817-wrexham/22005385611
If not already mentioned iGo have now got KX55APY an East Lancs Mylemmium? as a Driver Trainer. It was previously in non-psv use. Saw it today at the Frankley depot and again driver training in Longbridge.
KX08 OLB was on the 424E earlier
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on December 12, 2015, 04:10:00 PM
If not already mentioned iGo have now got KX55APY an East Lancs Mylemmium? as a Driver Trainer. It was previously in non-psv use. Saw it today at the Frankley depot and again driver training in Longbridge.
It had originally been new to the BBC as a publicity vehicle and is a MAN 14.220 with an East Lancs Myllennium body.
Ok thanks
@Bryan as it has no badges on it so all I knew was that it was an East Lancs Mylemmium
How is Running 9 Minutes late a Compalice Fail compared to Thand
i Not running buses Altogether.
Quote from: DartSLF on December 22, 2015, 06:22:18 PM
How is Running 9 Minutes late a Compalice Fail compared to Thand
i Not running buses Altogether.
They are both Compliance Failures, Buses must run between 1 min early and 5 mins late from what I am aware of.
How About Me and You Adam 404 both Set up a Forum called Compalince Fails .
Quote from: DartSLF on December 22, 2015, 06:28:00 PM
How About Me and You Adam 404 both Set up a Forum called Compalince Fails .
I think you must both be mad if you think any bus company can achieve those standards all of the time.
Good luck and a very happy Christmas from the igo General
Quote from: igogeneral on December 24, 2015, 05:34:38 PM
I think you must both be mad if you think any bus company can achieve those standards all of the time.
Good luck and a very happy Christmas from the igo General
I was only stated what VOSA monitors. DartSLF seemed to taking things out proportion.
@igogeneral
No offence, a blog is all about comment and constructive criticism so great. There has to be rules and guidelines which we all try to observe and there can be no excuse for running early but how on earth could any rule abiding bus driver have failed to be late out of Birmingham over the last few weeks on more than one occasion
YD63UZW is on the 226 today.
What buses are used on the Merry hill
Services
I think its Solos and Primos
@Solo1
Quote from: Solo1 on December 30, 2015, 05:10:15 PM
What buses are used on the Merry hill
Services
24- primo
14- solo/e200
424 branded Solo SR on the 167 or 168 today
Quote from: John on January 05, 2016, 02:26:38 PM
424 branded Solo SR on the 167 or 168 today
There was a 25 branded Solo on here today
When did the Stourbridge services 288 & 298/9 move to wednesbury also I noticed to day the wolverhampton service 61 had one of the wednesbury buses on
Quote from: John on January 06, 2016, 08:03:10 PM
There was a 25 branded Solo on here today
wonder what was used in its place on 25 service
424 white igo primo no I'd as to far to Id it
424 branded Solo SR on the 10H
Ring and Ride on the 27 today. https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.472709436234328.1073742108.369276339910972/493804744124797/?type=3&theater
Is there any truth in the rumour that an IGO driver was prevented from driving by the DVSA during a road side check at Wednesbury bus station on a 64 service vehicle for not having a DQC last week ?
Quote from: 4747 on January 17, 2016, 07:02:16 AM
Is there any truth in the rumour that an IGO driver was prevented from driving by the DVSA during a road side check at Wednesbury bus station on a 64 service vehicle for not having a DQC last week ?
what a DQC
Quote from: Solo1 on January 17, 2016, 07:37:03 AM
what a DQC
Taken from the governments website:
'You'll get your Driver Certificate of Professional Competence (CPC) card when you've done 35 hours of periodic training. The card is sometimes called a 'driver qualification card' or 'DQC'.
You must carry this card while driving a lorry, bus or coach professionally.'
Quote from: Bryan on January 17, 2016, 07:41:42 AM
Taken from the governments website:
'You'll get your Driver Certificate of Professional Competence (CPC) card when you've done 35 hours of periodic training. The card is sometimes called a 'driver qualification card' or 'DQC'.
You must carry this card while driving a lorry, bus or coach professionally.'
The rumour is that the dvr had not completed 35 hours CPC training which would normally mean he/she cannot drive in service.
How long have IGO been branding the 25 between Bloxwich & Kingstanding?
Didn't think operators would bother branding subsidised services?
Quote from: Westy on January 19, 2016, 01:22:52 PM
How long have IGO been branding the 25 between Bloxwich & Kingstanding?
Didn't think operators would bother branding subsidised services?
424 and 53 are branded. Also both subsidised.
Face it, iGo aren't really likely to lose these services for a while are they?
How long is the current contract on the 25, including the Sunday service for?
Quote from: Westy on January 19, 2016, 02:23:48 PM
How long is the current contract on the 25, including the Sunday service for?
Sure it doesn't run Sunday anymore
Quote from: Solo1 on January 17, 2016, 07:37:03 AM
what a DQC
Take a look at EU Directive 2003.59.EC which states that drivers of permit S22/S19 vehicles, as they are driving non commercial services (not for profit), are exempted from holding CPC. That being said WMSNT is a recognised training body for CPC training external and internal applicants alike and therefore does provide all staff with the required level of training
Quote from: Kevin on January 19, 2016, 02:44:36 PM
Sure it doesn't run Sunday anymore
Dont recall any Nwm changes saying so.
There's a Plaxton Primo on the (Smiths Wood to Erdington) 53 today.
Quote from: Westy on January 20, 2016, 10:29:52 PM
Dont recall any Nwm changes saying so.
http://jp.networkwestmidlands.com/centro/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&hideBannerInfo=1&command=direct&line=46025&net=cen&project=y11&sup=%20&lineVer=4&itdLPxx_direction=H&itdLPxx_line=46025&itdLPxx_net=cen&itdLPxx_project=y11&itdLPxx_sup=%20&itdLPxx_lineVer=4&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_debug=
Quote from: 2206 on January 21, 2016, 12:12:06 PM
http://jp.networkwestmidlands.com/centro/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&hideBannerInfo=1&command=direct&line=46025&net=cen&project=y11&sup=%20&lineVer=4&itdLPxx_direction=H&itdLPxx_line=46025&itdLPxx_net=cen&itdLPxx_project=y11&itdLPxx_sup=%20&itdLPxx_lineVer=4&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_debug=
Well they kept that quiet, didn't they?
So much for the people on that estate just before you get to Pheasey, who wanted the Sunday service.
Obviously they didn't want it that badly!
(Not surprised about the section between Bloxwich & Aldridge personally. If it ain't a 19 or 29, the locals don't want to know)
Primo on 10H today.
is there any chance of a new fleet list please ??
ex Metroline decker is on the 10
Just seen leaving Birmingham
Quote from: OH25 on January 28, 2016, 03:50:40 PM
ex Metroline decker is on the 10
Just seen leaving Birmingham
Metro line?
New Website! http://www.igobuses.com/
A really smart, modern looking and informative website. It looks really professional.
LT02 ZZK on the 10H today don't know if it's normal but thought I'd report anyway
Quote from: Will on January 30, 2016, 12:42:48 PM
LT02 ZZK on the 10H today don't know if it's normal but thought I'd report anyway
it's just left city if any one needs it
424 primo olb one in the igo livery
7008 and 117 are on the igo 96 and 99 today.
'LT02 ZZK' is on the 10H again. Not long been up The Priory Queensway
There a 09 plate E200 on the 53 today
will igo not send a new fleet list ??
Quote from: Ken Taylor on February 05, 2016, 03:45:31 PM
will igo not send a new fleet list ??
No, I haven't had one off them since the last update, I will try another request
Quote from: Tony on February 05, 2016, 03:47:18 PM
No, I haven't had one off them since the last update, I will try another request
We are in the process of compiling a comprehensive fleet list. I will advise when this is ready.
Any chance of depot allocations too
@igomeister ?
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on February 05, 2016, 05:48:52 PM
Any chance of depot allocations too @igomeister ?
@Dylanbusboy45 - I would have thought 'comprehensive' means everything inc depot allocations
When did IGo start doing Private Hire? http://www.igobuses.com/privatehire.html
A 53 Branded Optare Solo SR is on the 40 today.
What was the igo solo at merry hill
Spreading the love??? http://www.igobuses.com/news/lovebus.html
Quote from: Adam 404 on February 11, 2016, 09:52:18 PM
Spreading the love??? http://www.igobuses.com/news/lovebus.html
Looks familiar:
http://www.catchyourbus.co.uk/news/lovebus.html
Quote from: Winston on February 11, 2016, 10:02:55 PM
Looks familiar:
http://www.catchyourbus.co.uk/news/lovebus.html
Yes
@Winston I came across this: http://youtu.be/F4KOhr2Oe50 not so long ago
Ring & Ride 10109 (YX06CUW) VW Transporter on the 96/99 today, spotted twice in Acocks Green village.
One of the 08 buses from Elmdon now in a red livery thats used on private service
still no fleet list ??
Quote from: Ken Taylor on March 09, 2016, 04:43:52 PM
still no fleet list ??
My previous contact for a fleet list has now retired, he has given me another contact who has promised to sort one out for me, so hopefully not too long now
Finally caught up with the 4th 53 branded Solo tgoday KX14 FJZ making the 4 with KX14 FHU,KX14 FJC & KX14 FJF
If you've not got round to riding one of our deckers, there's a free trip to Welshpool on Sunday 20th March. Find out more here: http://igobuses.com/news/welshpool.html
Quote from: igomeister on March 16, 2016, 10:40:14 AM
If you've not got round to riding one of our deckers, there's a free trip to Welshpool on Sunday 20th March. Find out more here: http://igobuses.com/news/welshpool.html
Strangely a decker is on the 298/9 this morning!
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on March 21, 2016, 01:08:50 PM
Strangely a decker is on the 298/9 this morning!
is it that busy for a decker
Quote from: Solo1 on March 21, 2016, 01:56:49 PM
is it that busy for a decker
@Solo1 No way, the single deckers they use on it are mostly 3/4 empty for most of the day.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on March 21, 2016, 01:08:50 PM
Strangely a decker is on the 298/9 this morning!
Saw this decker at the junction of New Farm Road/Grange Lane this afternoon and thought I had gone mad! Still, a nice one to see and certainly one for the very rare workings list!
Service Changes 25th April 2016:
Service 39S - New journey leaving Bourneville College at 17:33 to Worlds End
Service 40: Withdrawn
Service 96 / 99: These services will cover lost links from the 40. Of which, the 99 will extend to Shirley Park.
This is on Page 13
Quote from: Adam 404 on March 22, 2016, 03:37:59 PM
Service Changes 25th April 2016:
Service 39S - New journey leaving Bourneville College at 17:33 to Worlds End
Service 40: Withdrawn
Service 96 / 99: These services will cover lost links from the 40. Of which, the 99 will extend to Shirley Park.
http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/media/1335/busservicechanges-issued-20160316.pdf
This is on Page 13
its not there I can't see it
Very sorry
@Solo1 , that is the old one...
Attached is the newer version.
It has only been sent to the people on the email list and not uploaded to the webpage.
Decker on 298/9 today
Decker on 298/299 again today lol, mad allocating there
Quote from: Chris on March 23, 2016, 01:25:41 PM
Decker on 298/299 again today lol, mad allocating there
Yes today its LT02 ZZK
as a slight aside, am surprised that the 298/9 have survived.
In the 70s when they were the S48/S49, they were popular routes and that continued when in 1976 when they were renumbered 298/9 with half hour frequency on both routes and Decker's like D9s and Fleetlines used.
However the popularity of the 294, 247/8 and now the 276 have really destroyed the service,
If Monday to Saturday daytime, they increased the 276 to every 15 minutes, then one journey could be renumbered 276A and could take in Springfield Ave in Lye and Hagley Road in Stourbridge to enable the 298/9 to be withdrawn and open up additional journey opportunities !
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on March 23, 2016, 01:56:42 PM
as a slight aside, am surprised that the 298/9 have survived.
In the 70s when they were the S48/S49, they were popular routes and that continued when in 1976 when they were renumbered 298/9 with half hour frequency on both routes and Decker's like D9s and Fleetlines used.
However the popularity of the 294, 247/8 and now the 276 have really destroyed the service,
If Monday to Saturday daytime, they increased the 276 to every 15 minutes, then one journey could be renumbered 276A and could take in Springfield Ave in Lye and Hagley Road in Stourbridge to enable the 298/9 to be withdrawn and open up additional journey opportunities !
Have to see what the dudley review brings eh? Though i see you point that changing one bit of the 276 will cover the 298/299 plus the 9 has got the lye to stourbridge stretch covered
Apparently it's because they are short a bus so it's having to be utilised over Stourbridge
Anyone want to lay odds on it dropping on the 298/9 tomorrow?
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 23, 2016, 02:04:22 PM
Apparently it's because they are short a bus so it's having to be utilised over Stourbridge
I'm sure there's other services it go on rather than 298/9
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 23, 2016, 07:28:50 PM
Anyone want to lay odds on it dropping on the 298/9 tomorrow?
On it again today, so now will it make it 5 days in a row tomorrow or being as it is Saturday service tomorrow, will they have a spare single?
Anyone know if the decker is out today??
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 25, 2016, 02:24:42 PM
Anyone know if the decker is out today??
I went out earlier and tried to find the 298/9, so don't know if I was just unlucky not to see it or if it was missing?
It was a solo today
Igo 53 Plaxton Primo was parked up on the Alum Rock Road broken down at about 2PM today.
At the end of the Alum Rock Road near Saltley Gate.
Why do I always see Igo not in service?
LT02ZZG and ZZK are on the rail replacements today
Summary of changes and new ones.
11th April 2016:
Service 25: The 09:42 from Aldridge now starts at Pheasey Church at 0917
25th April 2016:
Service 39S - New journey leaving Bourneville College at 17:33 to Worlds End
Service 40: Withdrawn
Service 96 / 99: These services will cover lost links from the 40. Of which, the 99 will extend to Shirley Park.
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on March 29, 2016, 12:40:04 PM
LT02ZZG and ZZK are on the rail replacements today
They are on it again today.
Decker on the 298/9 today
Quote from: Adam 404 on March 30, 2016, 01:06:59 PM
Summary of changes and new ones.
25th April 2016:
Service 39S - New journey leaving Bourneville College at 17:33 to Worlds End
Service 40: Withdrawn
Service 96 / 99: These services will cover lost links from the 40. Of which, the 99 will extend to Shirley Park.
Information of the new routes for the 96 & 99 are able to be viewed here:
http://igobuses.com/news/servicechanges.html
2115 226 off merry Hill failed to operate
2105 on the 167 today, which is unusual ..... although I have seen an Optare Solo on the route once or twice before.
The loss of the Flexilink services:
S20, S21, S22 & S23 which were commercial operations are being halted on the 1st of June.
Refer to Page 14 & 15.
Quote from: Adam 404 on May 19, 2016, 08:21:23 PM
The loss of the Flexilink services:
S20, S21, S22 & S23 which were commercial operations are being halted on the 6th of June.
Refer to Page 14 & 15.
Withdrawn from 1/06/2016 not 6/06/2016
They were just regularly scheduled Ring And Ride services though weren't they?
KX08UXU was on the 53 today.
1110 of the Ring and Ride fleet has made it out onto the 27 today!
Image: https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.512553238916614.1073742209.369276339910972/546169785554959/?type=3&theater
This decision by a TC may affect both Igo and Walsall Community Transport
http://www.route-one.net/articles/Legal/S19__can_t_be_paid___says_TC?utm_source=Route+One+Master+Subscribers&utm_campaign=d445bd4532-routeONE+News+Digest%3A+1+June+2016&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_584b65a2d5-d445bd4532-99272977
although Igo have been moving routes off section 19 anyway
Seen at South Birmigham depot Thursday,
1509/10 BX65 FTD/TT,HY12 RNV, with KX04 HPY carrying fleet No 2002 at nearby Tay Road & trainer KX55 APY.
Seen in Northfield on the way down Fiat Ducato HX10 ADO in a convoy of a number of SB vehicles(a day trip?)
LT02 ZZK on the 298/9 today.
Services 39B, 39H and 39R will no longer operate from the 1st of July 2016.
http://igobuses.com/news/bournvillecollege.html
Enviro 200 on the 424.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 27, 2016, 12:26:52 PM
Enviro 200 on the 424.
With one of the branded Solos on the 167/8
Solo Sr 14
Decker on the 298/9
Went to Wednesbury for a few odd vehicles required & noticed the depot strangely fairly empty.Had a word with the depot supervisor who said want we wanted were at the OTHER depot.Didn't know they had another but in Smith Road a couple of hundred yards past Wednesbury Metro depot entrance was a building full of special needs vehicles(was told app 44 are kept there) & about 14:00 they all started to leave for their afternoon duties.
Recently aquired EM57/08/58BUS were seen here all the remainder were Wednesbury allocated vehicles.
Some retiming on Service 22 in Wolverhampton.
Meanwhile, In Coventry...
26 - New service Stoke Aldermoor to University Hospital
27 - Withdrawn
41 - Service run via Abeey Road
47 - Timetable changes
http://igobuses.com/changes/index.html
A Dart is on the 167/168 today.
KU52RXR, I think.
YD63UZX is on the 226 today
Quote from: Dom on July 31, 2016, 04:28:16 PM
It is most Sundays
Has been enviro 200s most of the time I see it
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on July 31, 2016, 04:39:44 PM
Has been enviro 200s most of the time I see it
That hardly ever happens. I have never seen a E200 on the 226 on a Sunday and I see it most weeks.
Quote from: Dom on July 31, 2016, 08:43:14 PM
That hardly ever happens. I have never seen a E200 on the 226 on a Sunday and I see it most weeks.
Oh right. When ever I go to Merry Hill which is every few months or so it I have seen both types so wasn't sure which is more noteworthy. I know for when I next go
Fleet no 2009 on the 26 in Stoke Aldermoor this morning
Fleet no 106 on the 26 at Stoke Aldermoor today. New unpainted front bumper kerbside section visible. Must have pranged the original?
Quote from: Sandy Lane on August 13, 2016, 05:52:32 PM
Fleet no 106 on the 26 at Stoke Aldermoor today. New unpainted front bumper kerbside section visible. Must have pranged the original?
106 has been like this since April! https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.472702929568312.1073742104.369276339910972/535479233290681/?type=3&theater
Primo 106 & Optare Solo 1009 are the regulars onto the route.
Yes that's the one, so the bus is either still awaiting painting or perhaps it is a second replacement bumper?
Quote from: Sandy Lane on August 13, 2016, 10:12:10 PM
Yes that's the one, so the bus is either still awaiting painting or perhaps it is a second replacement bumper?
No, it has been like that ever since
@Sandy Lane Whole Album: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.472702929568312.1073742104.369276339910972&type=3
All of the Taxibus services are being withdrawn and replaced by an "89" service
"Route includes two demand responsive roaming zones" - What are these!
Page 8, 11 and 12
Quote from: Adam 404 on August 26, 2016, 03:17:19 PM
All of the Taxibus services are being withdrawn and replaced by an "89" service
"Route includes two demand responsive roaming zones" - What are these!
Page 8, 11 and 12
Hail and Ride?
A telephone?
Quote from: Adam 404 on August 26, 2016, 03:17:19 PM
All of the Taxibus services are being withdrawn and replaced by an "89" service
"Route includes two demand responsive roaming zones" - What are these!
Page 8, 11 and 12
"Demand responsive roaming zone" I guess means you phone in advance to request the bus comes to pick up up, in those zones of course.
In this world it probably means sending a tweet.
Theres a bit about the 89 in the Coventry paper this morning
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/new-rural-bus-service-introduced-11802757
2104 features and some poser hanging out the cab window
Quote from: Sandy Lane on August 27, 2016, 08:07:41 AM
Theres a bit about the 89 in the Coventry paper this morning
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/new-rural-bus-service-introduced-11802757
2104 features and some poser hanging out the cab window
The timetable is now on the iGo website: http://www.igobuses.com/89/index.html#timetable
16 plate Solo seen on route 89 in Kenilworth Road Coventry this evening.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/c1Fip9
iGo are loosing some work...
S1 - Withdrawn due to low usage (From 23rd October 2016) No new operator.
91 - Lost contract to Central Buses (From 23rd October 2016)
Page 13 & 14 on TfWM changes attached below.
Quote from: Adam 404 on September 13, 2016, 03:50:43 PM
iGo are loosing some work...
S1 - Withdrawn due to low usage (From 23rd October 2016) No new operator.
91 - Lost contract to Central Buses (From 23rd October 2016)
Page 13 & 14 on TfWM changes attached below.
Hi Adam, no need to keep attaching the same document here, please just link to the Upcoming Bus Changes page on the Network West Midlands site, where it is freely available to download.
https://www.networkwestmidlands.com/ways-to-travel/bus/upcoming-bus-changes/
Quote from: Stu on September 13, 2016, 06:53:10 PM
Hi Adam, no need to keep attaching the same document here, please just link to the Upcoming Bus Changes page on the Network West Midlands site, where it is freely available to download.
https://www.networkwestmidlands.com/ways-to-travel/bus/upcoming-bus-changes/
Hello
@Stu , The trouble is, the files are changed on the website and this will eventually mean that the posts will no longer make sense.
Just found this article on WMSNT website: http://www.wmsnt.org/news/ssc.html
The new Minibus service they will get to run is like the Ring and Ride it appears and will serve Brewood, Essington, Penkridge and Weston-under-Lizard.
Prices for the service:
Senior Citizen with a valid Concessionary pass and children over 11 without a Your Staffordshire Card.
£1.50 single
£2.50 return
Adult
£2.50 single
£3.50 return
Children under 11 and 11-15 year olds with a Your Staffordshire Card.
£1.20 single
16-19 year olds with a Your Staffordshire Card.
£1.30 single
Website: http://www.southstaffsconnect.com/
Quote from: Adam 404 on September 13, 2016, 08:04:39 PM
Just found this article on WMSNT website: http://www.wmsnt.org/news/ssc.html
The new Minibus service they will get to run is like the Ring and Ride it appears and will serve Brewood, Essington, Penkridge and Weston-under-Lizard.
Prices for the service:
Senior Citizen with a valid Concessionary pass and children over 11 without a Your Staffordshire Card.
£1.50 single
£2.50 return
Adult
£2.50 single
£3.50 return
Children under 11 and 11-15 year olds with a Your Staffordshire Card.
£1.20 single
16-19 year olds with a Your Staffordshire Card.
£1.30 single
Website: http://www.southstaffsconnect.com/
South Staffordshire Connect has been operating for a number of years, WMSNT have won the new contract for part of the service, the remainder will continue to be operated by the incumbent operator.
New solo operating the 89 is KV16 PWO seen 14:00 today in Solihull
Fleet no 2009 on the 26 today.
Generally the passenger no's look reasonable to me since IGo took over the tail end of TC's 16 route. Only an hourly service now though.
Dorchester Way is to loose the 26 service from 23rd October as it will go straight down Clifford Bridge Road instead... That means only the X31 will serve Dorchester Way.
Service 647 (Five Ways - Weoley Castle) is to have "a revised route and timetable" with an emergency tender (T0429E)
All according to the latest Network West Midlands Service Changes PDF: (Not on the Website yet) https://www.networkwestmidlands.com/ways-to-travel/bus/upcoming-bus-changes/
Quote from: Adam 404 on October 04, 2016, 05:01:44 PM
Dorchester Way is to loose the 26 service from 23rd October as it will go straight down Clifford Bridge Road instead... That means only the X31 will serve Dorchester Way.
Service 647 (Five Ways - Weoley Castle) is to have "a revised route and timetable" with an emergency tender (T0429E)
All according to the latest Network West Midlands Service Changes PDF: (Not on the Website yet) https://www.networkwestmidlands.com/ways-to-travel/bus/upcoming-bus-changes/
Not sure the Dorchester Way-ers will be thrilled with that (presumably to cut delays trying to turn right onto Clifford Bridge Rd in the Hospital direction). Mind you there wasn't much fuss seemingly when the 16/16A ceased to go that way.
A E200 was on a untimetabled 53E to Heartlands Hospital by Stechford Station at 08:10 today.
Enviro 200 KX59CYY is on the 145 today instead of a usual solo
LT02ZZG has been on LM Cross City rail replacements today. It was supposed to be standby at Selly Oak but as too many people wanted to get on it was used most of the day on Selly Oak - New St expresses along with Central Buses PN03UMJ. Solo KX04HPU has also been in use on rail replacements today between New St and Redditch on the stopping service
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on November 05, 2016, 04:49:25 PM
LT02ZZG has been on LM Cross City rail replacements today. It was supposed to be standby at Selly Oak but as too many people wanted to get on it was used most of the day on Selly Oak - New St expresses along with
On Smallbrook Queensway at 11:00.
WMSNT seems to now be called "ATG" (Accessible Transport Group). This name is being used on their website instead of WMSNT.
http://www.atgroup.org.uk/index.html
53 branded Solo SR 'KX14 FHU' on the 89 in Solihull today instead of the branded SR
The 10H was diverted today, Islington Row Middleway, Lee Bank Middleway, Bristol Street, normal line of route.
Igo training vehicle on church avenue Stourbridge earlier... bizarre
Worth to mention that KX59 CYW is on the 22/53. Quite unusual to see an Enviro 200 on this route.
New service 800 Saltley Rd -international school 1 return
Trip I'm sure it's the same servicethanks was run earlier in
the year
can we please have a new fleet list !!!
thanks
Optare Solo, 2005 has been on the 96/99 today and yesterday.
Saw an IGO service no 218 "Binley Woods" on the Brandon Rd in Coventry this morning.
Is this a regular run? Anyone have the timetable as could not find it on Igo web pages?
Quote from: Sandy Lane on December 30, 2016, 02:04:20 PM
Saw an IGO service no 218 "Binley Woods" on the Brandon Rd in Coventry this morning.
Is this a regular run? Anyone have the timetable as could not find it on Igo web pages?
It runs once a week. It goes from Tesco. There used to be a Flexibus WMSNT website but that no longer exists.
It is on Warwickshire C C's website though.
https://apps.warwickshire.gov.uk/api/documents/WCCC-906-50
Thanks Adam 404. I never knew this ran. Once a week is not much of a service though.
Quote from: Sandy Lane on December 30, 2016, 05:20:27 PM
Thanks Adam 404. I never knew this ran. Once a week is not much of a service though.
It is one of many rural shopper services which run. Generally on Market days to towns like Rugby & Hinckley for example.
Any idea why I might have seen an Igo 25 'off route' in Leamore around 4pm today?
There was no one on the bus,apart from the driver.
It was turning right from Harden Road onto Bloxwich Road, by Leamore shops.
(Normally the vehicle wouldve returned to Bloxwich via Chantry Avenue & Field Road if it was in service!)
The journey arriving in Bloxwich at 1635 then goes out of service, possibly returning to depot without resetting the destination.
Quote from: fleetline6477 on January 01, 2017, 03:09:03 PM
The journey arriving in Bloxwich at 1635 then goes out of service, possibly returning to depot without resetting the destination.
That would be about the time, but it was still 'off route', as it was going
towards Bloxwich, which makes me think that the Chantry Avenue area was suffering from parked cars.
I guess it went straight up Bloxwich Road & didn't turn right at Blakenall Lane, to rejoin normal Chantry Avenue route to Field Road, but I could be wrong.
When did the igo staff start wearing red coats as I thought
the coats were blue
Enviro 200 KX08 HMD on the Coventry 26 this am.
Driver wearing red Igo sweatshirt.
Observed that the few bus stops that have RTI the 26 shows as two lines for each service timing. Dont know why? Other routes show as just one line as normal.
HN16 NOJ noted in Stockfield Road yesterday afternoon in plain white with ATG legals.
Anyone know why I saw an Igo bus around 07:40 in Darlaston coming from the Moxley direction I know there depot is based in Wednesbury but they could have used Darlaston Road to get to Walsall or Bloxwich. Also is it just Ring and Ride based in Wednesbury or Igo to.
Quote from: BusFan94 on January 19, 2017, 04:07:18 PM
Anyone know why I saw an Igo bus around 07:40 in Darlaston coming from the Moxley direction I know there depot is based in Wednesbury but they could have used Darlaston Road to get to Walsall or Bloxwich. Also is it just Ring and Ride based in Wednesbury or Igo to.
You answered your question before asking it.
Any one have a fleet list for Igo?
Tony has one on the main site.
Not for this one he does not.
Here it is... http://wmbusphotos.com/Ring+Ride/fleetlist.html
Quote from: P419 EJW on January 30, 2017, 05:21:58 PM
Here it is... http://wmbusphotos.com/Ring+Ride/fleetlist.html
Not that up to date, I've been promised one by a couple of different people there, but since Des Rogers retired I have not managed to obtain one
Fiats , HX10ADO/ADU ,parked at Birmingham Airport around mid-day , parked where De Courcey keeps the JLR coaches.
Saw a Solo on the 26 in Cov today. Sorry didn't catch the number.
Quote from: Tony on January 30, 2017, 07:48:59 PM
Not that up to date, I've been promised one by a couple of different people there, but since Des Rogers retired I have not managed to obtain one
I have received a new fleetlist today.
Only problem is it doesn't have fleetnumbers on, so is going to take me some time to do a check for all the changes
I have now updated all the registrations in the fleetlist at
http://wmbusphotos.com/Ring+Ride/fleetlist.html
I will try and update all the allocations this weekend, but meanwhile any missing fleetnumbers greatly appreciated
T16GAJ was on the 167 today without a working destination display, or any route nummber.
Igo have lost the 28A tender, last day of operation is 22/04/2017.
KP02PUO is on 168
I hear the 26 in Coventry decided to sit down at lunch time today.
Solo Sr on 208 YJ66ANX how many more they got I know they use them on 19 maypole 53 Erdington 424 birmingham 89 Solihull 2 66 reg ones new
Quote from: Solo1 on March 18, 2017, 03:56:21 PM
Solo Sr on 208 YJ66ANX how many more they got I know own they have 1 on 89 in solihull
YJ66 AOA is another one. Saw it in Dudley on the 208 yesterday
Quote from: Nathan on March 18, 2017, 05:35:15 PM
YJ66 AOA is another one. Saw it in Dudley on the 208 yesterday
when did the 2 solo Sr's enter service
any update on the fleet allocations please ??
Wonder what service the 3 solos Sr's that are on 424
will move to
E200 4007 has had its damage repaired with duct tape.
On the 96 today.
From Monday the 89 will have a revised route betweem Balsall Common, Cannon Park and Coventry. A completely revised timetable. It'll serve Solihull on Monday, Wednesday and Friday. It'll serve Coventry on Tuesday and Thursday.
Lots of minibuses not long between each other around Heartlands Hospital today including I think, 117, 7008, lots of ring and rides and a plain white one with a paper S16 on the windscreen, the ones with a destination display had on hire to Birmingham City Centre on the display. Do they have a contract round there?
Igo have brought another solo SR seen today on 53 service pic in the photo links
The 89 branded Solo SR is on the 53 today
Quote from: Ken Taylor on March 20, 2017, 11:10:28 AM
any update on the fleet allocations please ??
all on now
http://www.wmbusphotos.com/Ring+Ride/fleetlist.html
thanks for the update Tony.
Many thanks Tony this will be very useful this summer.
How many buses from tay rd are used on contracts as they need 12 buses for services & they have 25 buses
Does anyone know what will happen to the Optare Solo SR currently used on the 424 after tomorrow?
Quote from: 2206 on April 21, 2017, 06:19:37 PM
Does anyone know what will happen to the Optare Solo SR currently used on the 424 after tomorrow?
could move to wednesbury depot & used on 22/53 as they already have 1 on there
1 of the former 424 buses parked up in Erdington by the gym
with not in service on the front.
Still 424 Branded, KX15BHK is on the 10H today.
YJ66 ANV on the 53 today. I don't think it's been mentioned in this thread before and it's not on the fleetlist on the main site.
BX65FTE, 1506 seen today at East Depot
Quote from: 2206 on April 25, 2017, 05:51:27 PM
Still 424 Branded, KX15BHK is on the 10H today.
Still 424 Branded, KX15BHK is on the 10H again today.
KX15BHJ is on the 167/8.
Think KX15BHL was on the 167/8 as well.
Theres a 64 plate E200 on the 96 today. In Acocks Green at 15:20 going towards Sheldon.
YY64GVZ, I think.
On the 26 in Cov today was a tired looking VW T5. Fleet no '0530' marked on the back. Bit of a come down in comfort compared to when NX used to run the 16 to the hospital.
Igo are extending there 99 to morrisons castle brom
Quote from: Jack D on May 26, 2017, 04:48:07 PM
Igo are extending there 99 to morrisons castle brom
Do you have a source for this?
A driver on the 99 told me there is also posters on 99
99 will extend via Leaford Road, Packington Avenue and Hurst Lane to Morrisons. It will cover part of 59 route between Lea Village and Castle Bromwich. It will not serve Yorkswood.
Which Igo depot serves Coventry?
Quote from: Sandy Lane on June 10, 2017, 12:35:38 PM
Which Igo depot serves Coventry?
Their Coventry Depot located in Henley Rd
@Sandy Lane
Thanks Adam404
Full sized single decker seen on the 145 today - not seen that before as usually a Solo or similar bus, was 64 reg.
Quote from: j789 on June 10, 2017, 09:58:35 PM
Full sized single decker seen on the 145 today - not seen that before as usually a Solo or similar bus, was 64 reg.
Did see something unusual going up Greenhill in Blackwell today but was too far ahead to ID
Didn't think they had anything full sized?
Quote from: Kevin on June 10, 2017, 11:55:57 PM
Did see something unusual going up Greenhill in Blackwell today but was too far ahead to ID
Didn't think they had anything full sized?
Igo have Optare Metrocity Demonstrator YJ64 DWK (presumably on loan)
Saw this photo of it on Flickr. Not my photo. Credit goes to Cody Cooke.
https://flic.kr/p/UpQTVN
2104 was on the 96 today. In Acocks Green at 15:30, going towards Hall Green, York Road.
YJ66ANX was on the 800 this morning, saw it after coming of at the Fox and Goose presumably going back to there garage.
First time an Optare Solo SR has got onto the 800, its always a Dennis Tridents. Also I think its the first time an Optare Solo SR has visited the Fox and Goose.
Quote from: 2206 on July 21, 2017, 09:43:45 AM
YJ66ANX was on the 800 this morning, saw it after coming of at the Fox and Goose presumably going back to there garage.
First time an Optare Solo SR has got onto the 800, its always a Dennis Tridents.
It was on there, carrying its feral load, yesterday.
Solo sr dart & envrio all on 10h today
Former 0246 converted to left hand drive and running in Poland, still recognisable as a Ring & Ride vehicle
http://fotobus.msk.ru/photo/793263/
Quote from: Tony on August 02, 2017, 10:57:00 AM
Former 0246 converted to left hand drive and running in Poland, still recognisable as a Ring & Ride vehicle
http://fotobus.msk.ru/photo/793263/
But the destination board states otherwise
Quote from: Sayeed on August 02, 2017, 04:01:31 PM
But the destination board states otherwise
You could have been a little more forthcoming in your answer for those of us who struggle with Cyrillic scripts!
Presumably, it's somewhere in Ukraine.
Quote from: DeanM66A on August 03, 2017, 12:48:06 PM
You could have been a little more forthcoming in your answer for those of us who struggle with Cyrillic scripts!
Presumably, it's somewhere in Ukraine.
Yeah I understand and I did. I stated registration plate before editing my post where it stated 'UA' country code
This Igo 15 plate Solo looks to have been sent out in a bit of a state:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/36294438365/
Would it be unfair to comment that fleet appearance generally at iGo seems to have slipped?
Quote from: PM on August 04, 2017, 03:09:12 PM
Would it be unfair to comment that fleet appearance generally at iGo seems to have slipped?
I don't think it would, fleet presentation standards do seem to have slipped of the buses I've seen recently. There's a nearly new 66 plate Solo SR driving around with a bright red replacement nearside bumper section. It's been like that a while
Quote from: Winston on August 04, 2017, 03:16:28 PM
I don't think it would, fleet presentation standards do seem to have slipped of the buses I've seen recently. There's a nearly new 66 plate Solo SR driving around with a bright red replacement nearside bumper section. It's been like that a while
Over the past few months i've seen lots of duct tape repairs on the E200 and in some cases the duct tape doesn't even match the colour of the bus.
Also the drivers on the 96 never seem bothered to change the destination display, nearly everyday I see the 15:17 96 from Acocks Green towards the Weatsheaf, often its 122 and it is always still displaying 96 Stratford Road, Hall Green, though it is going to towards the Weasheaf. They've been doing that everyday for the past few months now.
The debranded 424 Optare Solo SR look a mess as well. KX15BHK was still in serivce with its 424 branding for a week after the 424 passed to Claribels.
Quote from: Tony on August 02, 2017, 10:57:00 AM
Former 0246 converted to left hand drive and running in Poland, still recognisable as a Ring & Ride vehicle
http://fotobus.msk.ru/photo/793263/
According to that site and Google Translate, they got it in July 2012 and it was transferred away from Dnepropetrovsk in February 2014. Funnily enough, someone in the comments of that page linked to this website in 2013.
Quote from: Winston on August 04, 2017, 01:33:31 PM
This Igo 15 plate Solo looks to have been sent out in a bit of a state:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/36294438365/
Nothing new. That's an ex424 branded one.
They never take care of looking after them. One has a number of scrapes on its offside and 2106 has a high number of dents on its rear.
They were terrible buses, underpowered sheds on wheels. I don't miss these on the 424. There was at least one of the road every week.
In Coventry the 41 service (http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_GEOOBJECT_REQUEST?language=en&command=bothDirections&line=cen:46041:C:H:y11:8&hideBannerInfo=1) was quietly adjusted from July 24th so that some roads in Willenhall (which lost the 27 service last year) are served again.
I have a feeling the data input/map on NWM/Traveline timetable websites is wrong, going by the allocated time between the Willenhall Precinct and Tintagel Close timing points, should it actually run the long way along St James Lane and Middle Ride (past The Glade pub) as per previous supported bus services 27, 3A, 11, A1 ?. ;)
Solo sr and decker on 10H
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 31, 2017, 01:36:38 PM
Solo sr and decker on 10H
Its usual to see the Solo SRs on the 10H now, they were previously used on the 424, but they lost the tender to Claribels.
@Trident 4194 2 were on the 10H on Tuesday, alongside a 25 Branded Optare Solo.
Quote from: 2206 on August 31, 2017, 01:38:23 PM
Its usual to see the Solo SRs on the 10H now, they were previously used on the 424, but they lost the tender to Claribels. @Trident 4194
2 were on the 10H on Tuesday, alongside a 25 Branded Optare Solo.
Have the darts gone then?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 31, 2017, 01:39:42 PM
Have the darts gone then?
No Darts were on it on Tuesday, so does anyone know whats happened to the Darts?
KX14FJZ has been debranded, it was previously 53 branded.
Also 2004 came up, Bordesley Green East, Belchers Lane, then it went up Sladefield Road (In Ward End) and then it turned right onto the Washwood Heath Road, going towards the Fox and Goose about 45 minutes ago, the display said "on hire to Birmingham City Council". You don't usually see buses on Sladefield Road.
Quote from: 2206 on September 01, 2017, 04:17:12 PM
KX14FJZ has been debranded, it was previously 53 branded.
Also 2004 came up, Bordesley Green East, Belchers Lane, then it went up Sladefield Road (In Ward End) and then it turned right onto the Washwood Heath Road, going towards the Fox and Goose about 45 minutes ago, the display said "on hire to Birmingham City Council". You don't usually see buses on Sladefield Road.
Regular contract
The driver on Igo 4002 this morning on the first 99 of the day to Shard End, took a short cut in Sheldon and followed the 71E/71A/72 route straight down, Church Road, skipping out part of the route, Common Lane, Barrows Lane and Brays Road. Not good, as there could have been passengers waiting for it down there.
There was an accident in common lane this morning so could be why he diverted.
Quote from: Steveminor on September 06, 2017, 06:10:33 PM
There was an accident in common lane this morning so could be why he diverted.
It wasn't this morning, it was yesterday morning. I posted that yesterday afternoon at 1PM.
Quote from: 2206 on September 05, 2017, 01:12:24 PM
The driver on Igo 4002 this morning on the first 99 of the day to Shard End, took a short cut in Sheldon and followed the 71E/71A/72 route straight down, Church Road, skipping out part of the route, Common Lane, Barrows Lane and Brays Road. Not good, as there could have been passengers waiting for it down there.
A E200 was operating the 15:15 96 to Sheldon from Acocks Green this afternoon, as always nobody had changed the destination and it was still displaying Hall Green, which would have been quite confusing for passengers. Its duct tape was peeling of as well.
Quite fully seeing Solo 2009 on the 26 in Coventry been replaced by Transit minibus 1307 this afternoon
Double Decker on the 10H
A Solo SR has broken down on Station Road in Stechford and was partially blocking the road earlier. I think it was KX14FJZ?
Quite interested to see what route the new 10S which will be replacing the 647 will take per the latest service changes on NWM.
Desperate time for the COV 26 today. 0701 running the service complete with manual opening main passenger door.
Quote from: sonic84 on September 20, 2017, 05:44:35 PM
Quite interested to see what route the new 10S which will be replacing the 647 will take per the latest service changes on NWM.
Selly Oak - QE - Harborne - Quinton.
http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_GEOOBJECT_REQUEST?language=en&command=bothDirections&line=cen:4610S:%20:H:y11:5:5::1:2&hideBannerInfo=1&coordOutputFormat=MRCV
No longer going to Five Ways and Edgbaston.
Quote from: 2206 on September 30, 2017, 12:58:29 PM
Selly Oak - QE - Harborne - Quinton.
http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_GEOOBJECT_REQUEST?language=en&command=bothDirections&line=cen:4610S:%20:H:y11:5:5::1:2&hideBannerInfo=1&coordOutputFormat=MRCV
No longer going to Five Ways and Edgbaston.
Interesting route. It's a shame the 10H is being reduced the hourly. It seemed well used during the day, particularly before the NXWM services were rerouted in the city centre.
Long time since I made a comment but the state of the fleet does nothing to enhance the image and the 10H going hourly, might as well take it off and just run the 10
I hadn't realised before but the 10h will now divert from the green man to the QE hospital then run via edgbaston park road and church road up towards the botanical gardens and then via the normal line of route to Birmingham.
That now makes the 10h a 70 minute trip end to end.
LT02 ZZG Is on the 10H.
Additional vehicles now on fleet:
YJ67 FYK - Solo SR M790SL
YJ67 FYM - Solo SR M790SL
YJ67 FYN - Solo SR M790SL
These are at Wolverhampton for the 50 and 57. Also at Wolverhampton, appears to be KX15 BHL (2107), which is used on the 57.
What garages do they have? which routes are based where and buses?
Quote from: Kevin2017 on October 27, 2017, 05:44:15 PM
What garages do they have? which routes are based where and buses?
Depots operate a combination of bus routes and ring and ride work
As far as I know
Aston : 10/H, 25, 53 Erdington, 96, 99
Frankley : 19, 39/A, 42, 145
Wednesbury : 22 both Wolverhampton and Walsall routes, 24, 53 Wolverhampton, 64, 80, 208
Coventry : 26, 30, 41, 47, 89
Missing is Coventry 538&580
Wednesburu 50 &57 326 all new contracts
Quote from: fleetline6477 on October 27, 2017, 09:36:17 PM
Depots operate a combination of bus routes and ring and ride work
As far as I know
Aston : 10/H, 25, 53 Erdington, 96, 99
Frankley : 19, 39/A, 42, 145
Wednesbury : 22 both Wolverhampton and Walsall routes, 24, 53 Wolverhampton, 64, 80, 208
Coventry : 26, 30, 41, 47, 89
What depot have the 800 and the Tridents used on it.
Is the 10S (Quinton - Selly Oak) also at Aston?
Quote from: Solo1 on October 27, 2017, 09:46:05 PM
Missing is Coventry 538&580
Wednesburu 50 &57 326 all new contracts
The 50 & 57 are run by Wolverhampton (Ring & Ride) depot. The new arrivals mentioned by Alex on the previous page, plus 2107 are based there.
What about the 19 Walsall to Bloxwich?
And the 25? Bloxwich to Kingstanding
Quote from: Kevin2017 on October 27, 2017, 11:31:04 PM
And the 25? Bloxwich to Kingstanding
Aston, I think, with the 10/H as the 25 branded solo regularly get on the 10's.
Also what's happened to Elmdon do they not have any bus routes anymore?
I would have thought they would have one depot for all?
Quote from: Kevin2017 on October 28, 2017, 12:24:17 AM
I would have thought they would have one depot for all?
I'm guessing it's easier to have smaller ones dotted about, considering the sort of work ATG does with Ring and Ride, and the fact that they don't have many large vehicles.
Quote from: 2206 on October 27, 2017, 10:14:02 PM
What depot have the 800 and the Tridents used on it.
Is the 10S (Quinton - Selly Oak) also at Aston?
The Tridents are at Aston. See them driving into the garage sometimes still with 800 displayed
Their website has gone down hill, no updated timetables post Oct changes nor an active FB page.
Quote from: Kevin2017 on October 28, 2017, 06:40:03 PM
Their website has gone down hill, no updated timetables post Oct changes nor an active FB page.
The S16 is still shown on the website, that has been operated by Claribels since April and now operates Monday to Saturday instead of Friday only.
The site has indeed gone down hill. Just looked at it and notice Christmas times etc and thought that is early. However it was Christmas 2016 not taken down. 167 and 168 timetables still shown under igo. Shame because it is such a well set out site but if the information is not up to date then it is no better than useless. Also every day loads of tweets about lost service etc but never any tweets "selling" the services
I also noticed that on the NWM website and timetable info at bus stops that the 10h and 10s appears to be Monday to Friday only... Both routes were running this Saturday however.
I thought the new 67 reg buses were for the new Wolverhampton contracts 50 & 57 service but my mate didnrt see any on 57 any idea what service they might be on
Quote from: Nathan on October 27, 2017, 10:18:10 PM
The 50 & 57 are run by Wolverhampton (Ring & Ride) depot. The new arrivals mentioned by Alex on the previous page, plus 2107 are based there.
57 is wednsbury as there was a 66reg on the today & I cant see them running 1 bus from wednsbury so I think 50 is wednsbury as well
Quote from: Solo1 on November 06, 2017, 05:15:04 PM
57 is wednsbury as there was a 66reg on the today & I cant see them running 1 bus from wednsbury so I think 50 is wednsbury as well
Worth noting, it's probable that YJ66 ANV is a spare bus, should both the spare 67 plate, and 2107 be out of use, as ANV got on there on the first day of Igo running the 57.
And no, the 50 and 57 are both Wolverhampton.
KX14FJZ was operating a untimetabled 53E to Heartlands Hospital earlier today, by Stechford Station at about 08:00.
30 red van, 41/47 grey van today!
Trying to find YJ67FYK the 3rd solo sr reported to be at wolves for the new 50 /57 service but no luck wonder if its at another depot or been returned as its not needed
Saw an orange 2014 solo on the 10H yesterday. New acquisition, or repaint? I don't remember the plate.
Quote from: CL on November 15, 2017, 07:26:18 PM
Saw an orange 2014 solo on the 10H yesterday. New acquisition, or repaint? I don't remember the plate.
If it's the one I know about it is YJ64 DWD which has so far had a very nomadic life, Photo appearing on the main site tonight
Is nobody looking. On the service information boards in the QE hospital all 10H services show they are going to Birmingham, non to Quinton, so I would suggest they are all the same wherever they are
Yes it is YJ64DWD I saw it last week in colmore row on 10H
Igo has another solo white was on 99 service one my friends saw it
But to far to id it
Quote from: Solo1 on November 28, 2017, 01:48:02 PM
Igo has another solo white was on 99 service one my friends saw it
But to far to id it
YJ10 E?? Something like that. I just saw it between a Gemini on the 31, and then 4652 begins the Solo also on the 31. Maybe these changes are good news for the 31, seeing as it's a 20 minute service and both buses were together. This was on Shirley's road heading towards Acocks Green village at about 14:55ish
Quote from: igogeneral on October 28, 2017, 08:19:52 PM
The site has indeed gone down hill. Just looked at it and notice Christmas times etc and thought that is early. However it was Christmas 2016 not taken down. 167 and 168 timetables still shown under igo. Shame because it is such a well set out site but if the information is not up to date then it is no better than useless. Also every day loads of tweets about lost service etc but never any tweets "selling" the services
They appear to have finally updated it!
http://www.igobuses.com/service/byservice.html#nil
Coventry 30 has white van registered EM58 BUS on it with two pieces of paper saying 30 in windscreen.
Igo have 2 more new 67 reg buses seen on the 10h service see photo links for pics
4 additional Solo SRs have turned up at Aston, probably for the 10H/S
YJ67 FYR
YJ67 FYS
YJ67 FYT
YJ67 FYU
The Solo at Elmdon is YJ10 EZB, a former Optare demonstrator, still wearing its Go North East fleet number.
Quote from: Alex on December 02, 2017, 08:22:05 PM
4 additional Solo SRs have turned up at Aston, probably for the 10H/S
YJ67 FYR
YJ67 FYS
YJ67 FYT
YJ67 FYU
The Solo at Elmdon is YJ10 EZB, a former Optare demonstrator, still wearing its Go North East fleet number.
YJ10EZB is the one I saw on Shirley Road during the week. It was on whatever route they run that serves Shirley Road. Is that the 99? 90 something it was anyway.
Quote from: MW on December 02, 2017, 11:57:40 PM
YJ10EZB is the one I saw on Shirley Road during the week. It was on whatever route they run that serves Shirley Road. Is that the 99? 90 something it was anyway.
Yeah, its been on the 99 all week.
99 - Shirley - Acocks Green - Shard End/Castle Bromwich Morrisons.
YJ67FYR was on the 10H today - nearly missed the photo, having assumed from SH4 being at the top of Livery Street, SH3 would be at station end of Colmore Row.
Which routes run from which depot?
Quote from: Kevin2017 on December 22, 2017, 07:40:54 PM
Which routes run from which depot?
Answered on pages 80 - 81
.
Thanks, surprised 19 is not run with same depot as other Walsall routes.
There are 2 19 services 1 in walsal & the other 1 in Northfield
is there any reason why the 2 66 reg solo sr's are at Coventry & the 14 reg ones are at wednsbury
Quote from: Solo1 on December 30, 2017, 10:51:15 PM
is there any reason why the 2 66 reg solo sr's are at Coventry & the 14 reg ones are at wednsbury
They've been swapped, the 2 14's are at Wednesbury now.
Today I saw 904 in Morrisons(Castle Bromwich) car park.I have it as a Wolverhampton vehicle,so begs the question are there some reallocations in the fleet.
New ring & ride Fiat SJ67 SUU at the Hunters Moon today.
Fantastic work by igo today. Sending a bus out with no ticket machine.
I've just seen a photo on Flickr of what appears to be a newly built Optare Metrocity for Igo. It follows on from the Demonstrator (YJ64 DWK) they had on loan in June 2017, which they used on the 145.
Quote from: Nathan on February 03, 2018, 06:44:52 PM
I've just seen a photo on Flickr of what appears to be a newly built Optare Metrocity for Igo. It follows on from the Demonstrator (YJ64 DWK) they had on loan in June 2017, which they used on the 145.
Possibly for the 10 or 145 I'm thinking
Quote from: Nathan on February 03, 2018, 06:44:52 PM
I've just seen a photo on Flickr of what appears to be a newly built Optare Metrocity for Igo. It follows on from the Demonstrator (YJ64 DWK) they had on loan in June 2017, which they used on the 145.
More new Optare Solo SR's as well.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/70333100@N08/40000080002/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/70333100@N08/40028762242/in/photostream/
When are these due to arrive & enter service
@TonyDo you have updated fleet list for Solo SR and Primo Disposals? for Igo?
As a guess the metrocity Solihull 89 service the solo sr on there moves to Wednesbury with the other new one to Wednesbury for 53 service
Quote from: Solo1 on February 04, 2018, 07:24:54 AM
As a guess the metrocity Solihull 89 service the solo sr on there moves to Wednesbury with the other new one to Wednesbury for 53 service
Doubt the MetroCitys are for the 89. Wouldn't think that would fill the Solo. People reckon 2 are due so like it has already been said, the 145 is the best bet for them
Quote from: Solo1 on February 04, 2018, 07:24:54 AM
As a guess the metrocity Solihull 89 service the solo sr on there moves to Wednesbury with the other new one to Wednesbury for 53 service
I have been told the Metrocity will initially be going on the 10/H...Eventually it'll end up on the 145. If it proves to be good, I'm told more will be following...
Have the 96 (Sheldon - Acokcs Green - Hall Green) and 99 (Castle Bromwich - Acocks Green - Shirley) had an upgrade, they're being operated by 64 plate E200 today, YY64GWA and YY64GVZ?
their was an white optare solo on the 99 earlier i saw it at 3.05 on the coventry road by aldi
Quote from: 2206 on February 05, 2018, 05:11:28 PM
Have the 96 (Sheldon - Acokcs Green - Hall Green) and 99 (Castle Bromwich - Acocks Green - Shirley) had an upgrade, they're being operated by 64 plate E200 today, YY64GWA and YY64GVZ?
They're on the 96 and 99 again today.
So it looks like the 96 and 99 have had an upgrade.
Quote from: 2206 on February 06, 2018, 06:16:53 PM
They're on the 96 and 99 again today.
So it looks like the 96 and 99 have had an upgrade.
Are they carrying any more passengers as a result? Whenever I've seen these services when I'm down in Acocks Green village, they're mostly empty, one or two passengers at most. ;D
Quote from: Stu on February 06, 2018, 06:52:14 PM
Are they carrying any more passengers as a result? Whenever I've seen these services when I'm down in Acocks Green village, they're mostly empty, one or two passengers at most. ;D
No, they're still only carrying 1 or 2 passengers.
MPD KU52 RXR is working out if Wolverhampton depot today on the 57 (Wolverhampton to Bilston).
Must admit I was going to have a go at the northern section of the 57 earlier, so I ended up at Willenhall around 1115, having just come off a 326, waited for 25 mins, as a bus was due at 1121, which didnt show.
A Nx 25 arrived & this bloke got off & started chatting to me, mentioning that the same 57 bus hadnt arrived in Bilston earlier, which is why he was on the 25.(Apparantly some earlier journeys hadnt arrived either!)
I gave up & went in Wetherspoons for a curry, then went back to Walsall as I needed a new battery for my phone!
Brand new addition to the fleet, Optare Solo SR YJ67 FYO is on the 326 (Bilston-Bloxwich) today.
Any one seen yj67fyo to day thanks
I'm puzzled. On the 26 Coventry route today was GN09 KHP.
It has high floor narrow stepped side entrance with wheelchair tail lift at rear. More like a special needs bus. How the heck can this be put on the regular service?
I cant see the tail lift being used at bus stops to get the old and less able onto the bus if they cant climb the steps at the side?
Quote from: Sandy Lane on February 15, 2018, 10:44:52 PM
I'm puzzled. On the 26 Coventry route today was GN09 KHP.
It has high floor narrow stepped side entrance with wheelchair tail lift at rear. More like a special needs bus. How the heck can this be put on the regular service?
I cant see the tail lift being used at bus stops to get the old and less able onto the bus if they cant climb the steps at the side?
There are still several rural routes around the country still being served by similar Mercedes Varios.
Good point Tony but I thought a low floor bus had to be used on the 26?
Wheelchair accessible buses must be used. If it has a tail lift technically it is wheelchair accessible.
Quote from: Sandy Lane on February 15, 2018, 10:44:52 PM
I'm puzzled. On the 26 Coventry route today was GN09 KHP.
It has high floor narrow stepped side entrance with wheelchair tail lift at rear. More like a special needs bus. How the heck can this be put on the regular service?
I cant see the tail lift being used at bus stops to get the old and less able onto the bus if they cant climb the steps at the side?
On the 26 today was a smart looking bronze coloured Mercedes minibus conversion, reg started BT66......
No sign of JY67FYO on either 326 or 19 service has it moved to
another service if so which one
Wednesbury depot run routes, 64,208,22W, 22/53R, 19B and 326, it can be on any of those routes, and tbh with the low PVRs, they can easily be found.
iGo now have a 52 plate (iirc) dart in plain white. Its on the 22 today. Saw it in Wednesbury Bus Station this morning at around 08:40.
Quote from: Dom on February 21, 2018, 01:25:17 PM
iGo now have a 52 plate (iirc) dart in plain white. Its on the 22 today. Saw it in Wednesbury Bus Station this morning at around 08:40.
It'll be this one
http://wmbusphotos.com/Ring+Ride/KU52RXR.html
Quote from: Tony on February 21, 2018, 03:42:48 PM
It'll be this one
http://wmbusphotos.com/Ring+Ride/KU52RXR.html
Aye thats the one!
Quote from: Solo1 on February 20, 2018, 05:55:22 PM
No sign of JY67FYO on either 326 or 19 service has it moved to
another service if so which one
YJ67FYO is off the road at the moment sadly, it's been suffering with a random cutting out issue since it's second day out on the road. Optare are carrying out the necessary repairs.
Quote from: Dom on February 21, 2018, 01:25:17 PM
iGo now have a 52 plate (iirc) dart in plain white. Its on the 22 today. Saw it in Wednesbury Bus Station this morning at around 08:40.
Lovely bus to drive that one, sadly temporary VOR due to an electrical issue.
Quote from: Sandy Lane on February 15, 2018, 10:44:52 PM
I'm puzzled. On the 26 Coventry route today was GN09 KHP.
It has high floor narrow stepped side entrance with wheelchair tail lift at rear. More like a special needs bus. How the heck can this be put on the regular service?
I cant see the tail lift being used at bus stops to get the old and less able onto the bus if they cant climb the steps at the side?
Spare bus at Coventry depot, and is wheelchair accessible via the tail lift at the rear. Tail lift has been used in service. The normal allocation for the 26 is one of the 2 Coventry based E200s.
04 plate "van" on 30 today in Coventry
Hi, would anyone be able to give the Reg's of the igo Metrocity's and what routes they are operating on? Taking a trip up to the WM text weekend to the info would be helpful. Thanks.
Brand new 18 reg Solo delivered to Wednesday depot this afternoon, should be out on the 19/326 routes on Monday.
The 52 plate dart has now been repaired and transferred back to Birmingham (North depot)
YJ67FYO has now been repaired and expected back on the road on Monday 05/03
Quote from: Metrorider on March 03, 2018, 03:41:13 PM
YJ67FYO has now been repaired and expected back on the road on Monday 05/03
I think iGo are one of the few British operators that are still prepared to put up with the junk that Optare continue to produce. A 67 plate vehicle off the road with a warranty issue for almost a week - ridiculous.
Quote from: metrocity on March 03, 2018, 08:48:54 PM
I think iGo are one of the few British operators that are still prepared to put up with the junk that Optare continue to produce. A 67 plate vehicle off the road with a warranty issue for almost a week - ridiculous.
I think I'm seeing Optare in a new light now, after driving some Solos (both new and old).
MX57UPS in particular. Very good bus. YJ10MFV is another favourite.
I'm told by a friend who works for Optare that two further MetroCities and one Solo SR are due at Igo from dealer stock.
Quote from: metrocity on March 03, 2018, 08:48:54 PM
I think iGo are one of the few British operators that are still prepared to put up with the junk that Optare continue to produce. A 67 plate vehicle off the road with a warranty issue for almost a week - ridiculous.
I thought the Metrocity was proving quite popular / excellent fuel economy, is that not the case? Transdev Blazefield also seem happy to replace repeat orders
Quote from: MW on March 03, 2018, 09:49:06 PM
I think I'm seeing Optare in a new light now, after driving some Solos (both new and old).
MX57UPS in particular. Very good bus. YJ10MFV is another favourite.
Do we take it your back driving for Diamond Bus @ Redditch?
Quote from: Winston on March 03, 2018, 10:16:55 PM
I thought the Metrocity was proving quite popular / excellent fuel economy, is that not the case? Transdev Blazefield also seem happy to replace repeat orders
From the passenger seat, Optare products introduced into the Midlands in the last year or two are rattle free, comfortable, nippy machines.
Granted I've always had a soft spot for Optare given Wolverhampton was full of them as I grew up. I know they're not many peoples cup of tea though.
Quote from: metrocity on March 03, 2018, 08:48:54 PM
I think iGo are one of the few British operators that are still prepared to put up with the junk that Optare continue to produce. A 67 plate vehicle off the road with a warranty issue for almost a week - ridiculous.
The irony in your username is not lost on me here.....
Quote from: metrocity on March 03, 2018, 08:48:54 PM
I think iGo are one of the few British operators that are still prepared to put up with the junk that Optare continue to produce. A 67 plate vehicle off the road with a warranty issue for almost a week - ridiculous.
I can see your point, but so far of all the ones delivered new to Igo this has been the only problematic one. Turned out to be an electrical fault with a wire that had been accidentally trapped during production/assembly that had caused a tiny break in the wire that was causing the random stalling as the bus was moving, the offending wire has now been removed and rewired/rerouted correctly.
One of the 326 igo today 136 from bilston no shoe not sure if the bus
broke down or was running late
Quote from: Solo1 on March 05, 2018, 06:10:05 PM
One of the 326 igo today 136 from bilston no shoe not sure if the bus
broke down or was running late
They're could have been one missing for a trip because YJ67FYO broke down yet again!!!!! ::)
Which service will the 18 reg be found on 19 or 326 thanks
Both
Wonder if the Moseley depot of wmsnt will.be running the
New igo 69 contract from end if April as it not far from kings heath
Quote from: Solo1 on March 13, 2018, 07:12:14 AM
Wonder if the Moseley depot of wmsnt will.be running the
New igo 69 contract from end if April as it not far from kings heath
No chance, not enough room in that depot for a bus. It'll either be Tay Rd or North operated.
Had 1 1/2 hrs in Harborne to see the 10's today with YJ66 ANU & YJ67FYS on the 10H & YJ67FYT & YJ67 FYU on the 10S.
2009 was on the Coventry 26.
Baby Solo SR 'YJ67 GEK' in use on the 47 in Coventry today. Can't see a previous mention of it on the thread
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/40048460585/
Quick question time.
Does Igo have its own 4 weekly pass, as I have a friend who now lives on the Walsall 19 route(Little Bloxwich end!) & wanted to ditch her Nbus Black Country pass for cost reasons?
(I did suggest walking up to the Lichfield Road/Abbotts St / Stoney Lane area & catching the 89 & 302, then she could change to an Nx pass but for medical reasons(back apparantly!), that appears to be a non starter. Another friend of hers suggested walking into Blakenall, for a 29, which might be a starter, but depends on the back!)
Quote from: Westy on March 31, 2018, 03:13:52 PM
Quick question time.
Does Igo have its own 4 weekly pass, as I have a friend who now lives on the Walsall 19 route(Little Bloxwich end!) & wanted to ditch her Nbus Black Country pass for cost reasons?
(I did suggest walking up to the Lichfield Road/Abbotts St / Stoney Lane area & catching the 89 & 302, then she could change to an Nx pass but for medical reasons(back apparantly!), that appears to be a non starter. Another friend of hers suggested walking into Blakenall, for a 29, which might be a starter, but depends on the back!)
There's no mention on their website of any igo specific weekly/monthly passes, so I guess the answer is no.
Igo do a single cash fare of £2.40 and a short hop at £1.90.
What is a short hop - how many stops or how max is the distance?
Quote from: Sandy Lane on April 01, 2018, 08:44:19 PM
Igo do a single cash fare of £2.40 and a short hop at £1.90.
What is a short hop - how many stops or how max is the distance?
I'm pretty sure NXWM describe it as 'about a mile', but I don't have a source on that, and of course igo's definition could be completely different.
Quote from: Stu on April 01, 2018, 07:35:09 PM
There's no mention on their website of any igo specific weekly/monthly passes, so I guess the answer is no.
Thats what I thought.
Cheers.
Optare Metro City YJ18DKY on the 145 this morning.
Quote from: Westy on March 31, 2018, 03:13:52 PM
Quick question time.
Does Igo have its own 4 weekly pass, as I have a friend who now lives on the Walsall 19 route(Little Bloxwich end!) & wanted to ditch her Nbus Black Country pass for cost reasons?
(I did suggest walking up to the Lichfield Road/Abbotts St / Stoney Lane area & catching the 89 & 302, then she could change to an Nx pass but for medical reasons(back apparantly!), that appears to be a non starter. Another friend of hers suggested walking into Blakenall, for a 29, which might be a starter, but depends on the back!)
No, but I know the idea was being looked at a while back, not heard anything about it since though.
Are all 3 metrocity buses now on 145 & will the solos on 145
Be going on 38 & 69 service in a few weeks
Quote from: Solo1 on April 09, 2018, 06:26:20 PM
Are all 3 metrocity buses now on 145 & will the solos on 145
Be going on 38 & 69 service in a few weeks
Think there's only 2 MetroCitys, a 67 plate and a 18 plate
On the 145 today are MetroCity YJ67FYV and an Enviro 200 (didn't see the third bus)
Where are the usual haunts for the metro city?
145 metrocity buses
64 in west Bromwich has a solo on today
10h had 1 of the solos that was on 145
Quote from: Solo1 on April 17, 2018, 10:35:49 AM
10h had 1 of the solos that was on 145
2002 on it today, minus the actual 145 number branding but still saying "iGo to Bromsgrove / Droitwich"
Also still has 145 timetables on board
In Coventry Thursday the following were seen
On the 26-KX09 GJJ
On the 30-YX06 CUW
On the 41/47-YJ58PGV & YJ58 PKV
On the 539-YJ66 ANX
On the 580-YJ66AOA
The Bedworth locals were in the hands of Centrebus YJ58 CFA,Have they lost this or was it a hire in?
No sign of the 67 reg,s
another new solo to frankley is KX15BLF just seen on 99
Quote from: cris 99 on April 28, 2018, 10:54:20 AM
another new solo to frankley is KX15BLF just seen on 99
photo of it on the photo page
Was near the Frankly depot on the bus saw what looked like 2 white solos parked up wonder if they are for the new services starting on Monday unless it was the metrocity buses parked outside only had a quick glance as the bus passed
The 2 solo sr that were at igo franleu depot on 36 today
See photo links for photos & the 15 reg is on 69 service
Quote from: Solo1 on April 30, 2018, 12:21:19 PM
The 2 solo sr that were at igo franleu depot on 36 today
See photo links for photos & the 15 reg is on 69 service
KX14 FJY is another one that I don't think has been mentioned yet, on the 19 yesterday.
has anyone got any idea how many solos ATG have. ive now lost track now with all the 14/16 and 67 plates accquired lately
The 2s solo sr's that was on 36 were 2 from franley depot wondering if the the white ones have gone to frankley in exchange
Quote from: broma1k on April 27, 2018, 12:43:16 PM
In Coventry Thursday the following were seen
On the 26-KX09 GJJ
On the 30-YX06 CUW
On the 41/47-YJ58PGV & YJ58 PKV
On the 539-YJ66 ANX
On the 580-YJ66AOA
The Bedworth locals were in the hands of Centrebus YJ58 CFA,Have they lost this or was it a hire in?
No sign of the 67 reg,s
YJ58CFA belongs to Centrebus Holdings Ltd t/a Hinckleybus, part of Arriva. It operates the 79 service in Bedworth and not the B services which are operated by iGo
YJ58CFA belongs to Centrebus Holdings Ltd t/a Hinckleybus, part of Arriva. It operates the 79 service in Bedworth and not the B services which are operated by iGo
Yes but it was operating the B services.
I casn't find any trace of YJ58CFA on any Arriva fleet lists. They have CCA, CCF and CFF in Hinckley. There is a link though, CFA and CFF were a pair bought by Haywood & Prosser of Coventry in 2008.
Quote from: cris 99 on May 09, 2018, 07:40:19 PM
has anyone got any idea how many solos ATG have. ive now lost track now with all the 14/16 and 67 plates accquired lately
27 solo sr's I think 3 ex 424. 4 on 53 8 67 reg. 3 66reg 2 14 reg. 1 18 in fleet livery & 5 in white which are there latest ones
How many metrocity buses do igo have as I thought they had
3 but driver said they have only 2
What's the price of a day return on 145/145A to Bromsgrove
Apparently quite a few routes are changing regarding the south Birmingham nxbus changes, 99 is one of then, anyone heard anything ?
Quote from: Jack D on July 04, 2018, 08:45:39 PM
Apparently quite a few routes are changing regarding the south Birmingham nxbus changes, 99 is one of then, anyone heard anything ?
Service 10H / 10S
Towards Tesco Quinton
As current route between City / Selly Oak and Court Oak Road, then: Court Oak Road, West Boulevard, Quinton Road West, Martley Croft, Simmons Drive, Highfield Lane, Ridgeacre Lane, Ridgeacre Road.
Towards City/Selly Oak
Ridgeacre Road, Quinton Road West, Highfield Lane, Simmons Drive, Martley Croft, Quinton Road West, West Boulevard, Court Oak Road. Then as the current route from Court Oak Road to City / Selly Oak.
Service 19
Towards Rednal
As current route from Maypole to Longbridge (except the bus will go straight on from The Fordrough onto Fairfax Road, will not turn down Alvechurch Rd and will not serve West Heath terminus) then: Longbridge Lane, Bristol Road South, Lickey Road, Leach Green Lane, Cock Hill Lane, Bristol Road South, Park Way, terminate at Hollywood Bowl.
Towards Maypole
Hollywood Bowl, Park Way, Bristol Road South, Leach Green Lane, Lickey Road, Bristol Road South, Longbridge Lane. Then as the current route from Longbridge to Maypole (except the bus will go straight on from The Fordrough onto Fairfax Road, will not turn down Alvechurch Rd and will not serve West Heath terminus).
Service 39A
Towards Longbridge
As current route from Woodgate Valley to Weoley Castle, Castle Square, then: Castle Road, Middle Park Road, Swarthmore Road, Black Haynes Road, Shenley Lane, Meadow Brook Road, Merritt's Hill. Then as the current route to Longbridge
Towards Woodgate Valley
As current route from Longbridge to Merritt's Hill then: Merritt's Hill, Meadow Brook Road, Shenley Lane, Black Haynes Road, Swarthmore Road, Middle Park Road, Castle Road. Then as the current route to Woodgate Valley.
Service 39 does not change
Service 99
Towards Shard End
As current route from Shirley to Baldwins Lane, then: Baldwins Lane, Solihull Lane, Pitmaston Road, Cresswell Road, Lakey Road. Then as the current route to Shard End.
Towards Shirley
As current route from Shard End to Lakey Road then: Lakey Road, Cresswell Road, Pitmaston Road, Solihull Lane, Baldwins Lane. Then as the current route to Shirley.
Source - https://www.networkwestmidlands.com/ways-to-travel/bus/south-birmingham-bus-changes/
@Jack D
Saw this the other day at Maypole, looks a right mess... Fleet presentation has certainly gone down at Igo since they first started running bus routes (had to crop original due to file size limits)
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on July 31, 2018, 08:56:00 PM
Saw this the other day at Maypole, looks a right mess... Fleet presentation has certainly gone down at Igo since they first started running bus routes (had to crop original due to file size limits)
I've noticed some dodgy looking igo buses too. They definitely had higher standards before
Diamond might be going in for the buy hence the new standards haha
I've noticed the Igo President Bodied Trident and a Igo E200 seem to be crossing the Fox and Goose and comming down Coleshill Road in Ward End at about 15:25 on a daily basis, I saw them again this afternoon, have Igo got some sort of contract the Tridents are now being used on?
Igo have got another Metrocity coming soon, presumably for the 145.
Photo of it at the Optare factory (not mine)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/128789124@N06/43318823985/in/feed
Saw a 16 plate update solo parked up in Russell's Hall hospital earlier. Route training perhaps?
Does Service 99 stop at Lea hall Station now ?
Quote from: Jack D on September 17, 2018, 05:44:29 PM
Does Service 99 stop at Lea hall Station now ?
Yes.
http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&command=direct&net=cen&line=46099&sup=%20&itdLPxx_direction=H&project=y11&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_sessionID=CEN_EFA03_48188677&lineVer=11&itdLPxx_spTr=11&itdLPxx_operatorCodeForTTB=IGO
it's been stopping there for a couple of months now
Its a shame IGO are losing the 64 i heard that was a good route
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on August 24, 2018, 10:41:18 AM
Igo have got another Metrocity coming soon, presumably for the 145.
YJ68FTO noted on the 145 on Saturday 22/9/18. :)
saw a vehicle in Kidderminster bus station today blue transit (I think) it had rear doors for wheel chairs . and legal lettering for aitg (think that's right) and address was some where in aston , had a paper sticker in window service 9
According to todays N&P, iGo are cancelling the 26 and 30 tenders in Coventry from 30th September - several weeks ahead of the original contract change date of 28th October.
Quote from: metrocity on September 28, 2018, 05:48:47 PM
According to todays N&P, iGo are cancelling the 26 and 30 tenders in Coventry from 30th September - several weeks ahead of the original contract change date of 28th October.
That's because the replacing 16/16A and 20C start on Sunday
@metrocity https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/service-changes/coventry-service-changes-from-30th-september
Quote from: Adam 404 on September 28, 2018, 05:57:02 PM
That's because the replacing 16/16A and 20C start on Sunday @metrocity
https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/service-changes/coventry-service-changes-from-30th-september
I gathered that but it's interesting that the original change date of 28th October has been brought forward
There was a 53 branded Solo SR on the 89 earlier, looked unusual seeing a 53 branded bus in Solihull.
It was in Solihull at about 10:40.
Igo blue PSV minibus parked at guest trucks Willenhall walsall think it's one of the coventry ones
There was a Solo on the 800 this afternoon.
Anyone know if any issues in Bilston tonight, as Ive given up waiting for the 326 in Wilenhall & caught the 529 instead!
Spotted Solo SR KY63 VTC in use with igo last week, not in the main site fleetlist and I have never seen this one before.
Quote from: V89MOA on December 23, 2018, 08:45:55 PM
Spotted Solo SR KY63 VTC in use with igo last week, not in the main site fleetlist and I have never seen this one before.
frankly depot I got pic on 38 service pic on my Flickr site
Quote from: V89MOA on December 23, 2018, 08:45:55 PM
Spotted Solo SR KY63 VTC in use with igo last week, not in the main site fleetlist and I have never seen this one before.
Thanks for posting reg No. I saw this last week but could only remember "VTC". :o ;)
Quote from: B61 ANDREW on December 24, 2018, 01:07:57 PM
Thanks for posting reg No. I saw this last week but could only remember "VTC". :o ;)
No worries!
Does anybody know if the 25W still runs between Pelsal and Shire oak Academy
It seems IGO have an E200mmc Mini demonstrator. vechile registration YX18 KWV. It's on the 39's today.
Quote from: 4369Beast on February 14, 2019, 12:33:29 PM
It seems IGO have an E200mmc Mini demonstrator. vechile registration YX18 KWV. It's on the 39's today.
Is it still with igo, at the moment? Anyone got eyes on it? Thanks
Quote from: CL on February 15, 2019, 10:40:33 AM
Is it still with igo, at the moment? Anyone got eyes on it? Thanks
Reported on Facebook this morning as running NIS through Old Hill. That suggests it was going to start service on the 208.
Quote from: Nathan on February 15, 2019, 11:25:14 AM
Reported on Facebook this morning as running NIS through Old Hill. That suggests it was going to start service on the 208.
Cheers :)
As Nathan said its on the 208 today and then Saturday and Monday the 96/99 before going back up to Falkirk on Tuesday.
Quote from: 4369Beast on February 15, 2019, 12:07:34 PM
As Nathan said its on the 208 today and then Saturday and Monday the 96/99 before going back up to Falkirk on Tuesday.
Nice to know, cheers. Will try and get it today or tomorrow, then - as I'm not in the Midlands on Monday. Thanks, again.
No Problem mate.
Just passed it on city road tividale towards Dudley
It's just came into Dudley
@CL
Quote from: Jack6101 on February 15, 2019, 03:01:15 PM
It's just came into Dudley @CL
Thanks for the heads up; I managed to catch it earlier from Bunns Lane (near Burnt Tree) to Cradley Heath. My photographs didn't come out too well, so I might have to try my luck again tomorrow.. Thanks, again, though! :)
Quote from: 4369Beast on February 15, 2019, 12:07:34 PM
As Nathan said its on the 208 today and then Saturday and Monday the 96/99 before going back up to Falkirk on Tuesday.
If anyone sees which of the two diagrams the demo is on on 208 today, that would be much appreciated
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on February 16, 2019, 07:46:32 AM
If anyone sees which of the two diagrams the demo is on on 208 today, that would be much appreciated
Is it on the 208 today?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 16, 2019, 08:17:47 AM
Is it on the 208 today?
It should be yes, I was just asking which of the two diagrams it is on
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on February 16, 2019, 08:20:33 AM
It should be yes, I was just asking which of the two diagrams it is on
Just passed a standard E200 heading towards Dudley, in Old Hill
I surmise that the demo should be the 0920 ex Merry Hill, then
Quote from: CL on February 16, 2019, 08:31:19 AM
Just passed a standard E200 heading towards Dudley, in Old Hill
I surmise that the demo should be the 0920 ex Merry Hill, then
Thanks, I will photograph it later then
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on February 16, 2019, 08:35:20 AM
Thanks, I will photograph it later then
I'm at Merry Hill right now, and the 208 that's just come in is another standard E200 :(
Quote from: CL on February 16, 2019, 08:59:37 AM
I'm at Merry Hill right now, and the 208 that's just come in is another standard E200 :(
Oh no, maybe it is on another route then :'(
I can only assume it's on another Frankley route then, if i see it I will let you know
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on February 16, 2019, 09:07:19 AM
Oh no, maybe it is on another route then :'(
I can only assume it's on another Frankley route then, if i see it I will let you know
Cheers.
Not sure if worth mentioning, but the original E200 that I saw in Old Hill was displaying 208E to Dudley. I'm uncertain whether that's just a programming fault (and whether it was running the full route), or it it was indeed running short - possibly due to a swap? Big 'possibly'. ???
@Dylanbusboy45 its on the 96/99 today and the same again Monday, before going back up to Falkirk on Tuesday.
Quote from: 4369Beast on February 16, 2019, 09:28:46 AM
@Dylanbusboy45 its on the 96/99 today and the same again Monday, before going back up to Falkirk on Tuesday.
Cheers, any idea of timings ?
Not sure yet mate Ive spoke to your dad, I will speak to someone who may now.
Quote from: 4369Beast on February 16, 2019, 09:34:37 AM
Not sure yet mate Ive spoke to your dad, I will speak to someone who may now.
Ok thanks. I may go and get it monday now anyway
Anyone know of the whereabouts currently? I've just spent near enough an hour in Acocks Green to no avail. Might try and catch it somewhere else; time permitting.
Quote from: CL on February 16, 2019, 12:20:44 PM
Anyone know of the whereabouts currently? I've just spent near enough an hour in Acocks Green to no avail. Might try and catch it somewhere else; time permitting.
In one of the Facebook groups I am in, I saw a picture of YX18 KWV on 39A in Northfield. I don't know the times, sorry.
Quote from: P419 EJW on February 16, 2019, 01:58:15 PM
In one of the Facebook groups I am in, I saw a picture of YX18 KWV on 39A in Northfield. I don't know the times, sorry.
No worries, mate. Cheers for that. :)
Quote from: CL on February 16, 2019, 02:12:08 PM
No worries, mate. Cheers for that. :)
Yes it was 1223 39A to South Woodgate ;)
It was meant to be on the 96/99 today but didn't happen for reasons unknown.
Thanks, all. Managed to catch the last journey ex-Longbridge. 8)
Does anybody know what route the Igo demo bus is on today please
Quote from: Jordan on February 18, 2019, 09:50:37 AM
Does anybody know what route the Igo demo bus is on today please
On 39/A today. 1115 Northfield to Longbridge
KU52 RXR is on the Wednesbury 22 right now rather than the usual Primo or Solo SR
Taken from Facebook Thanks to a contact I have at the company, I can confirm that Igo or ATG have gone into Administration. It looks unlikely that the company will be salvaged. So TfWM will be looking into Emergency tender contracts.
Wouldn't believe it till its official... You seen the other crap he posts on fb??
Quote from: Solo1 on March 19, 2019, 07:59:19 PM
Taken from Facebook Thanks to a contact I have at the company, I can confirm that Igo or ATG have gone into Administration. It looks unlikely that the company will be salvaged. So TfWM will be looking into Emergency tender contracts.
Can charities go into administration?
Quote from: Solo1 on March 19, 2019, 07:59:19 PM
Taken from Facebook Thanks to a contact I have at the company, I can confirm that Igo or ATG have gone into Administration. It looks unlikely that the company will be salvaged. So TfWM will be looking into Emergency tender contracts.
Does anyone know if there's any truth in this?
So today was there last day?
They were still operating till end of service tonight on the A12.
There is truth yes but ive heard they are to be wrapped up on Saturday ( 23rd march).
Quote from: Busman Jamie on March 19, 2019, 08:24:54 PM
Wouldn't believe it till its official... You seen the other crap he posts on fb??
That post is more than likely spot on.
Look guys speculation in a companies demise may lead to said that companies demise as passengers & staff that hear the rumours lose faith & move elsewhere.
There are things going on but for now let's just let them do what they need to do without rumours or speculation.
A brilliant company with a very modern fleet.
Quote from: Steveminor on March 19, 2019, 09:22:34 PM
Look guys speculation in a companies demise may lead to said that companies demise as passengers & staff that hear the rumours lose faith & move elsewhere.
There are things going on but for now let's just let them do what they need to do without rumours or speculation.
well said steve aggree with you
He ring and ride is a charity but the bus part isn't
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 19, 2019, 09:27:46 PM
A brilliant company with a very modern fleet.
Who grossly under bid for tenders
Quote from: Steveminor on March 19, 2019, 09:22:34 PM
Look guys speculation in a companies demise may lead to said that companies demise as passengers & staff that hear the rumours lose faith & move elsewhere.
There are things going on but for now let's just let them do what they need to do without rumours or speculation.
As the info initially posted has come via a member of Igo staff, I think it's far too late in the day to worry about rumours / speculation damaging their business.
Quote from: Tony on March 19, 2019, 09:48:31 PM
Who grossly under bid for tenders
Didnt Arriva Wednesfield as well?
For the record, I got a 326 back to Bloxwich from Willenhall about half 4.
Quote from: Westy on March 19, 2019, 10:04:47 PM
Didnt Arriva Wednesfield as well?
For the record, I got a 326 back to Bloxwich from Willenhall about half 4.
Yes, for the initial batch of tenders they won on a 5 year deal operated out of Hill Top first.
Quote from: Stu on March 19, 2019, 08:46:51 PM
Can charities go into administration?
If the pot of money is empty then yes. There's only so much they get from WMCA for Ring and Ride which has been reducing over the past few years. Same goes for home to school contracts for education authorities. Overheads however go up every year, insurance, maintenance, staff costs, fuel etc.
A great many good and wonderful people took WMSNT forward to great heights serving many thousands of mobility impaired people around the West Midlands. My hat goes off to all the staff who helped make it such a wonderful and rewarding place to work, I wish them all well for the future whatever that is.
Heres hoping Nx get the emergency tender for the 326!
Quote from: igogeneral on March 19, 2019, 10:56:41 PM
A great many good and wonderful people took WMSNT forward to great heights serving many thousands of mobility impaired people around the West Midlands. My hat goes off to all the staff who helped make it such a wonderful and rewarding place to work, I wish them all well for the future whatever that is.
The Igo bus side can easily be covered by other bus operators, I'm not so sure the Ring & Ride service will be quite so easy to replace, the potential loss of that service will hurt the most vulnerable in the community.
I'm not sure if it's related but I did see someone in an ATG hi-vis taking stuff down on a clipboard in Wednesbury yesterday. Could be taking note of passenger usage or something?
Will the tenders that igo have lost be started by the new tender earlier than 28th April?
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on March 20, 2019, 04:12:34 PM
Will the tenders that igo have lost be started by the new tender earlier than 28th April?
The new operators will have no obligation to take them up before that date, but I presume some will if they have the buses and drivers available.
Quote from: Tony on March 19, 2019, 09:48:31 PM
Who grossly under bid for tenders
With respect Tony a non-for-profit company will always be in a position to be able to do that.
Quote from: fleetline6477 on March 20, 2019, 08:56:54 PM
With respect Tony a non-for-profit company will always be in a position to be able to do that.
They were bidding so low that it wasn't even break even though, that is how they have got to the current position.
Is the 10S and 10H commercial or tendered? If commercial I can't see it being replaced.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 20, 2019, 09:22:44 PM
Is the 10S and 10H commercial or tendered? If commercial I can't see it being replaced.
Tendered I think, I don't think they have any commercial routes other than the 800?
The 800 has looked very well used though and carries a full load with standing passengers on a decker when i've seen it on Burney Lane in the past. I wander if it will get a direct replacement? Most of the route seems to be an identical copy of the 14 looking at the route map.
Quote from: fleetline6477 on March 20, 2019, 08:56:54 PM
With respect Tony a non-for-profit company will always be in a position to be able to do that.
There is profit and there is contribution to overheads of the charity. igo was formed to fund the overheads of Ring and Ride which was the original charity and still is. Not much point in running anything if you do not have an ultimate aim.
Im sure I saw an Igo Versa on the 539 today?
Update on. Igo https://www.networkwestmidlands.com/ways-to-travel/bus/changes-to-some-bus-services-operated-by-igo/
Several years ago I was involved with the start up of igo with the aim of providing much needed funds to the important and much used Ring and Ride service. From day one, due to the dedication of many many fine people, igo grew to be a much respected and responsible operator.
I retired in 2015 but have watched igo continue to grow but just wondered how they were able to fund new vehicles. It looks like just perhaps they tried too hard, only time will tell.
I was wondering if I should change my user name on this site but, unless anyone objects, I intend to retain it as I am proud of what the team and I managed to achieve with ATG and igo.
To all the staff who will be told today they are out of work I hope you all find work soon and that your families will not suffer because of today.
igogeneral (Des)
Quote from: Solo1 on March 22, 2019, 03:50:21 PM
Update on. Igo https://www.networkwestmidlands.com/ways-to-travel/bus/changes-to-some-bus-services-operated-by-igo/
I presume that link will be updated with further 'emergency tenders' over the course of the weekend, unless igo will keep going temporarily in some kind of limited capacity?
I can't see anything official regarding this on either the igobuses or ATG websites, no official announcement or anything?
"We are aware that ATG contracted services which includes IGO has gone in to administration. We are working with the Administrators and other operators to ensure the continued operation of the remaining tendered services including securing a new operators for these services. We will be working to achieve this without disruption to services. For more info please check our website which will be kept updated."
NWM/TfWM's response to a question on their Facebook page.
I'm slightly surprised Hackney Community Transport haven't stepped in.
Quote from: mikestone on March 22, 2019, 08:32:30 PM
I'm slightly surprised Hackney Community Transport haven't stepped in.
CT Plus are 'present' in the area ;-)
If Saturday is to be their last day, then my lasting memory of them will be of their local service performance today, going out the way they started - running with no relation to the timetable.
Quote from: igogeneral on March 22, 2019, 04:16:16 PM
Several years ago I was involved with the start up of igo with the aim of providing much needed funds to the important and much used Ring and Ride service. From day one, due to the dedication of many many fine people, igo grew to be a much respected and responsible operator.
I retired in 2015 but have watched igo continue to grow but just wondered how they were able to fund new vehicles. It looks like just perhaps they tried too hard, only time will tell.
I'm not sure the tender prices (some of which over the years were clearly below reasonably assumed costs) were ever going to provide any aspect of 'much needed funds' to the Ring and Ride service.
I just hope there is no negative impact from the demise of this operator to the socially necessary services that ATG provide for TfWM, BCC and the surrounding shire authorities and that the extensive staffing list will soon find alternate employment.
Here's the confirmation of what is going on
https://www.thebusinessdesk.com/westmidlands/news/2027789-%c2%a0-transport-group-calls-in-administrators?fbclid=IwAR1u_KPNjQPUGDBHTCJsh4Wqnl6kMPK_IJtdqNFlRS4atHpbZ4uOddkQ5pg#.XJVRZ_WpGAY.facebook
Quote from: dave47549 (no longer NEL111P) on March 22, 2019, 10:35:41 PM
CT Plus are 'present' in the area ;-)
If Saturday is to be their last day, then my lasting memory of them will be of their local service performance today, going out the way they started - running with no relation to the timetable.
Sorry but that is a very misguided and ill informed comments which I think needs a response. Within only a few months of start up igo was seen to be one of the most reliable and punctual of all the small operators in the West Midlands. After only 2 years they were sat around the table with all of the larger operators discussing the long and short term future of local bus transport. What has happened over the last 3 years is to me a mystery, I wish I knew, but I am sure we will find out the real reason shortly
Quote from: igogeneral on March 23, 2019, 12:20:51 PM
Sorry but that is a very misguided and ill informed comments which I think needs a response. Within only a few months of start up igo was seen to be one of the most reliable and punctual of all the small operators in the West Midlands. After only 2 years they were sat around the table with all of the larger operators discussing the long and short term future of local bus transport. What has happened over the last 3 years is to me a mystery, I wish I knew, but I am sure we will find out the real reason shortly
I'll quantify my 'ill informed' comments:
The 'local service' (& its predecessor/s) referred to is familiar to me & was something I had responsibility for compliance monitoring for under a previous operator. My job necessitated me having a working understanding of what is required to be 'compliant'.
After the transfer to WMSNT (over 3 years ago, BTW), communication was made regarding 'problems' to the depot concerned, perception of which was they were oblivious to the problems (& requirements of a commercial operation), wished to remain so, & preferably weren't to be troubled with further contact. I've seen considerable evidence of 'non-compliance' in the intervening years on the route concerned, none of which I've since 'bothered' anyone with (I've made just one journey on the route in that time - which, anecdotally, was neither compliant time-wise, nor on two other counts...).
Yesterday (Friday), I went for a walk which gave cause to observe two journeys on the service involved, this was at a quiet period with no known traffic problems:
One was 14 minutes late.
The other was a no-show.
Oh, the CT Plus reference was a light-hearted response to the equally light-hearted suggestion that Hackney CT might become interested - with some spurious basis in truth, as there has been a CT+ vehicle parked amongst withdrawn Igo vehicles for the last few months.
Will the igo routes that haven't had replacements announced on the Network site still be running next week then, or are those routes not going to be running?
Quote from: StourValley98 on March 23, 2019, 07:30:45 PM
Will the igo routes that haven't had replacements announced on the Network site still be running next week then, or are those routes not going to be running?
What will happen to the buses? I did like their solo SR used on the 10H/S
Quote from: StourValley98 on March 23, 2019, 07:30:45 PM
Will the igo routes that haven't had replacements announced on the Network site still be running next week then, or are those routes not going to be running?
The Network West Midlands website announcement does state:
QuoteWhilst the above services will no longer be operated by igo there will be no change to any of the timetables or routes.
All other igo services are scheduled to operate as normal.
Quote from: dave47549 (no longer NEL111P) on March 23, 2019, 01:23:57 PM
I'll quantify my 'ill informed' comments:
The 'local service' (& its predecessor/s) referred to is familiar to me & was something I had responsibility for compliance monitoring for under a previous operator. My job necessitated me having a working understanding of what is required to be 'compliant'.
After the transfer to WMSNT (over 3 years ago, BTW), communication was made regarding 'problems' to the depot concerned, perception of which was they were oblivious to the problems (& requirements of a commercial operation), wished to remain so, & preferably weren't to be troubled with further contact. I've seen considerable evidence of 'non-compliance' in the intervening years on the route concerned, none of which I've since 'bothered' anyone with (I've made just one journey on the route in that time - which, anecdotally, was neither compliant time-wise, nor on two other counts...).
Yesterday (Friday), I went for a walk which gave cause to observe two journeys on the service involved, this was at a quiet period with no known traffic problems:
One was 14 minutes late.
The other was a no-show.
Oh, the CT Plus reference was a light-hearted response to the equally light-hearted suggestion that Hackney CT might become interested - with some spurious basis in truth, as there has been a CT+ vehicle parked amongst withdrawn Igo vehicles for the last few months.
Your original comment referred to when IGO started which was much more than 3 years ago. When it started it operated reliable and compliant services and as far as I am concerned did so until at least December 2015, what happened after that I have no idea as I was not there. Your reference to HCT may not be as far off the mark as some may think. ATG was formed based on the HCT model and both ATG and HCT are major organisations within the CTA. The majority of home to school drivers do not hold PSV, they are D1, so cannot drive for a commercial operation. Similarly vehicles are not PCV, they are S19, so for them to be operated short term by anyone other than a charity will be difficult. short to medium term I could only see local Councils taking the drivers and vehicles in house but they will certainly not want to do that long term
I am at a loss as to why Dave47549 should leap to the conclusion my suggestion that HCT might have stepped in was not serious - my understanding was that they took over MCT while it was heading in the same direction.
Quote from: igogeneral on March 24, 2019, 01:49:12 PM
Your original comment referred to when IGO started which was much more than 3 years ago. When it started it operated reliable and compliant services and as far as I am concerned did so until at least December 2015
No, it specifically referred to a local route operated by Igo/wmsnt, which commenced operation on that route sometime between April & July 2015*. If you still wish to misinterpret that, then:
- Igo (as a brand) came in by Autumn 2014
- 'Proper' wmsnt bus ops commenced by Feb 2012
- Pseudo-proper wmsnt routes were running by the mid 90's
Take your pick from those three, they all pre-date December 2015.
* I'd quote you the specific date, but, despite wmsnt holding a full op licence, it's apparently a section 19 registration, details not available online.
Quote from: mikestone on March 24, 2019, 07:09:14 PM
I am at a loss as to why Dave47549 should leap to the conclusion my suggestion that HCT might have stepped in was not serious
Nor me. This was taken on Friday*:
* Don't read anything into it.
Guys we're losing sight of the fact several hundred people are about to lose their jobs. Our thoughts should be on those people at this time. I know a few people personally including Dave sterland. I wish them well for now & for their futures.
Quote from: dave47549 (no longer NEL111P) on March 24, 2019, 08:20:10 PM
No, it specifically referred to a local route operated by Igo/wmsnt, which commenced operation on that route sometime between April & July 2015*. If you still wish to misinterpret that, then:
- Igo (as a brand) came in by Autumn 2014
- 'Proper' wmsnt bus ops commenced by Feb 2012
- Pseudo-proper wmsnt routes were running by the mid 90's
Take your pick from those three, they all pre-date December 2015.
* I'd quote you the specific date, but, despite wmsnt holding a full op licence, it's apparently a section 19 registration, details not available online.
I am not going to enter into a Facebook type battle here so this is my last on the subject. Not sure what you mean by Pseudo proper means and we were not running registered bus routes in the 90's, perhaps you mean home to school routes which first appeared in 1992 on a very small scale. igo started as WMSNT buses and the name was changed after we held a competition to find a more suitable name, no services changed because of the name change. Local bus services cannot run under section 19, perhaps you are confused with section 22. Finally read your original comment again as not once did you mention a specific route or service number, your comment was a general one aimed at igo. That's me, I will now wait and see what happens this week.
Quote from: Steveminor on March 24, 2019, 09:21:30 PM
Guys we're losing sight of the fact several hundred people are about to lose their jobs. Our thoughts should be on those people at this time. I know a few people personally including Dave sterland. I wish them well for now & for their futures.
Bang on, my thoughts are with them all
Quote from: igogeneral on March 24, 2019, 09:28:47 PM
Not sure what you mean by Pseudo proper means and we were not running registered bus routes in the 90's
At least one route was in operation. I was given a timetable for a (non school run) centro 6xx tendered route running in the Selly Oak area around 1994ish give or take a year. I went looking for it one day, one trip failed to show, the next was late. My centro pass was refused too...
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Local bus services cannot run under section 19, perhaps you are confused with section 22.
You're correct, an error on my part whilst researching route registrations.
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Finally read your original comment again as not once did you mention a specific route or service number, your comment was a general one aimed at igo.
Reading again, it's meaning is open to misinterpretation. "of their local service performance today, going out the way they started - running with no relation to the timetable" referred to a specific route & backed with two observations on that date - 14 minutes late & a no-show.
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Guys we're losing sight of the fact several hundred people are about to lose their jobs. Our thoughts should be on those people at this time.
I've had my share, both at the hands of receivers, & the political mindset that leads to job losses (& had my fill of the ****s that make those decisions). It's not a nice place to be & I wish them well.
I too won't pursue this difference of opinion further. Arguing from different sides of the fence as to the merits or otherwise of a contractor is irrelevant against potential further job losses. (Although significant, 700 pales in comparison to the millions of job losses so far this decade). we should not propagate the situation further.
Quote from: dave47549 (no longer NEL111P) on March 24, 2019, 11:42:13 PM
At least one route was in operation. I was given a timetable for a (non school run) centro 6xx tendered route running in the Selly Oak area around 1994ish give or take a year. I went looking for it one day, one trip failed to show, the next was late. My centro pass was refused too...
Are you sure that wasn't the 614 operated by Communicare?
Quote from: igomeister on March 25, 2019, 06:52:40 AM
Are you sure that wasn't the 614 operated by Communicare?
I remember the vehicles. They were 3 early tri-axle minibuses in a version of Ring & Ride livery with added grey I think. I know I did photograph at least one of them and have it on my old fotopic site. I'll see if I can find it.
I was with WMSNT from 1993. The only large bus routes we had were operated by Mercedes 811 and they were operated on behalf of WMPTE and branded Easyrider but they were not open to the general public, they had to be booked in advance. Two of them operated in South Birmingham, one in Wolverhampton, one in Coventry and one in Walsall.
Quote from: igogeneral on March 25, 2019, 03:26:57 PM
I was with WMSNT from 1993. The only large bus routes we had were operated by Mercedes 811 and they were operated on behalf of WMPTE and branded Easyrider but they were not open to the general public, they had to be booked in advance. Two of them operated in South Birmingham, one in Wolverhampton, one in Coventry and one in Walsall.
Yes, Easyrider was what I was thinking about
Walsall 19 still operated by Igo at the mo.
Quote from: Westy on March 25, 2019, 05:18:38 PM
Walsall 19 still operated by Igo at the mo.
Who where you expecting to be operating it?
The announcement on the NWM website stated all other routes will be opertating as normal and they were out as normal on loads of routes today - A12, 99, 89, 10H etc.
Quote from: Westy on March 25, 2019, 05:18:38 PM
Walsall 19 still operated by Igo at the mo.
A new operator is due to start the 19 on the 31st March
Quote from: metrocity on March 25, 2019, 05:34:30 PM
A new operator is due to start the 19 on the 31st March
Walsall 19 or South Birmingham 19 (Both are IGO)
Quote from: metrocity on March 25, 2019, 05:34:30 PM
A new operator is due to start the 19 on the 31st March
would be nice it name the. operator
Quote from: Solo1 on March 25, 2019, 06:32:19 PM
would be nice it name the. operator
Why?
Won't make any difference until the change happens and operators have been told any advance information on changes to ATG is strictly confidential until all the details are finalised
Quote from: Solo1 on March 25, 2019, 06:32:19 PM
would be nice it name the. operator
I'm gonna take a punt at kevs cars taking it over
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 25, 2019, 07:14:26 PM
I'm gonna take a punt at kevs cars taking it over
that's what I think with the primos they have unless they are having new buses that's if it's the 19 in Northfield & not the walsall one
Quote from: Solo1 on March 25, 2019, 07:18:06 PM
that's what I think with the primos they have unless they are having new buses that's if it's the 19 in Northfield & not the walsall one
Somehow doubt Kevs would be running the 19, looks like it needs 5 buses to run at present (Northfield route). Isn't the Frankley part commercial anyway, if another operator takes it on it I would imagine it would be cut back to the contracted part of the route only, can't recall which section is the tendered part.
I did say the Walsall 19, if you read my original comment!
On the subject of the 'new' operator, surely Nx would be the obvious choice , as they run the Sunday service already?(Or is it not that simple?)
By the way, with the demise of Igo, if Nx & Diamond are the first choice operator, who would be 'number 3' in the pecking order now?
Quote from: Westy on March 25, 2019, 09:32:43 PM
I did say the Walsall 19, if you read my original comment!
On the subject of the 'new' operator, surely Nx would be the obvious choice , as they run the Sunday service already?(Or is it not that simple?)
By the way, with the demise of Igo, if Nx & Diamond are the first choice operator, who would be 'number 3' in the pecking order now?
Why is NX the obvious operator? These routes will be issued as emergency tenders. The obvious operator is the best bidder.
There is no 'pecking order' there's several operators have been approached and asked to bid
Wouldn't be surprised if it was Banga or Let's Go the way that they are going, gaining contracts out of the blue.
Quote from: metrocity on March 25, 2019, 05:34:30 PM
A new operator is due to start the 19 on the 31st March
could be Walsall community transport
Quote from: Solo1 on March 26, 2019, 06:02:40 AM
could be Walsall community transport
And their depot is only around the corner in Little Bloxwich!
Quote from: Tony on March 25, 2019, 10:29:30 PM
Why is NX the obvious operator? These routes will be issued as emergency tenders. The obvious operator is the best bidder.
There is no 'pecking order' there's several operators have been approached and asked to bid
Tony, take your point about the emergency tender, but over the years, it always seems to be if Nx doesnt do the route, then Diamond does it, then if they didnt, then Arriva did it, then if they didnt, then Igo did it.
If I'm wrong, I apologise, but that is how it seems to me over the years I've been doing this as a 'hobby'!
Quote from: Westy on March 26, 2019, 11:01:12 AM
Tony, take your point about the emergency tender, but over the years, it always seems to be if Nx doesnt do the route, then Diamond does it, then if they didnt, then Arriva did it, then if they didnt, then Igo did it.
If I'm wrong, I apologise, but that is how it seems to me over the years I've been doing this as a 'hobby'!
It's nothing of the sort. Up until very recently it was exactly the opposite. Igo were first choice because of their low tenders and NX were last resort if no one else bid
Ring & Ride has been saved then: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-47705997
Quote from: StourValley98 on March 26, 2019, 01:54:34 PM
Ring & Ride has been saved then: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-47705997
Not safe yet.
That reads to me as though it's been thrown a lifeline of funding to prevent collapse/keep operating, it will give the administrators/stake holders more time to find a long term solution.
Quote from: Winston on March 26, 2019, 02:00:27 PM
Not safe yet.
That reads to me as though it's been thrown a lifeline of funding to prevent collapse/keep operating, it will give the administrators/stake holders more time to find a long term solution.
It makes me wonder if the Ring & Ride service model is really financially viable in the current economic climate?
Quote from: Winston on March 26, 2019, 02:00:27 PM
Not safe yet.
That reads to me as though it's been thrown a lifeline of funding to prevent collapse/keep operating, it will give the administrators/stake holders more time to find a long term solution.
I agree. I presume that money won't fund igo services either. If they're paid for by TfWM in the first place then surely they won't receive more funding from BCC.
Quote from: igomeister on March 26, 2019, 05:34:07 PM
I agree. I presume that money won't fund igo services either. If they're paid for by TfWM in the first place then surely they won't receive more funding from BCC.
I read it that the additional funding secured for ATG is simply to keep Ring & Ride running, Igo I suspect will eventually just disappear & all tendered services will be absorbed by other operators in time.
The BCC comments suggest funding paid over 12 weeks, or whether it will give ATG 12 weeks (3 months grace) to secure a long term solution?
Quote from: Winston on March 26, 2019, 05:40:06 PM
I read it that the additional funding secured for ATG is simply to keep Ring & Ride running, Igo I suspect will eventually just disappear & all tendered services will be absorbed by other operators in time.
The BCC comments suggest funding paid over 12 weeks, or whether it will give ATG 12 weeks (3 months grace) to secure a long term solution?
TfWM have awarded a lot more of the routes to other operators today to run from Monday 1/4/19
NXWM have to find 12 more buses
I am sure there will be a formal announcement of which operators have which routes in due course
Quote from: Tony on March 26, 2019, 05:47:03 PM
TfWM have awarded a lot more of the routes to other operators today to run from Monday 1/4/19
NXWM have to find 12 more buses
I am sure there will be a formal announcement of which operators have which routes in due course
I'm assuming NXWM will now be lucky if they're able to withdraw 40-45 old buses due to all the various pvr increases.
Quote from: Tony on March 26, 2019, 05:47:03 PM
TfWM have awarded a lot more of the routes to other operators today to run from Monday 1/4/19
NXWM have to find 12 more buses
I am sure there will be a formal announcement of which operators have which routes in due course
I really hope you haven't won the 10H lol
Quote from: Tony on March 26, 2019, 05:47:03 PM
TfWM have awarded a lot more of the routes to other operators today to run from Monday 1/4/19
NXWM have to find 12 more buses
I am sure there will be a formal announcement of which operators have which routes in due course
Would this entail purchasing 2nd hand vehicles?
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on March 26, 2019, 08:24:13 PM
Would this entail purchasing 2nd hand vehicles?
Unlikely with 5 days notice.
Quote from: Tony on March 26, 2019, 08:17:11 PM
Why
You would probably use crap e200s, which are far worse than what Igo currently offer.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 26, 2019, 08:34:01 PM
You would probably use crap e200s, which are far worse than what Igo currently offer.
Does it matter what bus is used as long as it is suitable for the route. The normal travelling public couldn't care less what bus is used as long as it turns up and gets them to their destination
Quote from: John on March 26, 2019, 08:35:59 PM
Does it matter what bus is used as long as it is suitable for the route. The normal travelling public couldn't care less what bus is used ad long as it turns up and gets them to their destination
And I suspect he doesn't need to use the 10H anyway
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 26, 2019, 08:34:01 PM
You would probably use crap e200s, which are far worse than what Igo currently offer.
Igo uses e200s... would be interesting if nx obtained some of Igo optares
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on March 26, 2019, 08:37:31 PM
Igo uses e200s... would be interesting if nx obtained some of Igo optares
It's not a type NX have operated in years.
Quote from: Tony on March 26, 2019, 08:37:13 PM
And I suspect he doesn't need to use the 10H anyway
I do often use it. One of the select few that do use it.
As good as confirmed that nx have won the 10H then
@Tony 😟
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 26, 2019, 08:43:11 PM
I do often use it. One of the select few that do use it.
As good as confirmed that nx have won the 10H then @Tony 😟
My comment was 'need to'
I know bus spotters use a lot of random routes to travel on them
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on March 26, 2019, 08:37:31 PM
Igo uses e200s... would be interesting if nx obtained some of Igo optares
I think a lot of the vehicles are leased thru Dawson Rentals
Hopefully NXWM have got the 10 back, was just a good route back in the day and much quicker than the 103 (24) into town. It seems to mostly carry fresh air these days, unlike when I regularly caught it where buses were full in the peaks. Clearly not financially viable anymore, but I do think matters could be improved by extending it from Quinton to Northfield via West Boulevard and Barnes Hill. This would in someway also replace the 29 route and give Barnes Hill a direct route to Town. Maximum 15 mins trip from Quinton to Northfield so would only need 1 extra bus on a 30 min frequency, surely worth a short term risk to see if it could work.
Quote from: metrocity on March 26, 2019, 08:51:32 PM
I think a lot of the vehicles are leased thru Dawson Rentals
Aren't KX registered vehicles normally Dawson's / ex Dawson's
Quote from: Winston on March 26, 2019, 09:05:40 PM
Aren't KX registered vehicles normally Dawson's / ex Dawson's
A lot of the earlier stuff, Primos etc was purchased from Dawsons as well
Quote from: Tony on March 26, 2019, 08:47:31 PM
My comment was 'need to'
I know bus spotters use a lot of random routes to travel on them
No one really needs to use a service, but if it's there I will often use it to get nearer home
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 26, 2019, 09:11:11 PM
No one really needs to use a service.
What are you on? I'd like to order some...
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 26, 2019, 09:11:11 PM
No one really needs to use a service.
Lots of people need to use a bus service, to get to where they need to go.
So according to you they could just go and scrap every single bus/rail route in the country and there wouldn't be a problem?
Quote from: j789 on March 26, 2019, 08:57:28 PM
Hopefully NXWM have got the 10 back, was just a good route back in the day and much quicker than the 103 (24) into town. It seems to mostly carry fresh air these days, unlike when I regularly caught it where buses were full in the peaks. Clearly not financially viable anymore, but I do think matters could be improved by extending it from Quinton to Northfield via West Boulevard and Barnes Hill. This would in someway also replace the 29 route and give Barnes Hill a direct route to Town. Maximum 15 mins trip from Quinton to Northfield so would only need 1 extra bus on a 30 min frequency, surely worth a short term risk to see if it could work.
Hopefully some of these contracts which have seen patronage fall off a cliff over recent years will now benefit from the advantage that passengers can use Travelcard and contactless payments
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 26, 2019, 09:11:11 PM
No one really needs to use a service
And the award for best all time comment goes to...... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Primo on 10H yesterday and today
Well yes NX will be operating the 10H from Monday. The nominated vehicles are the 41xx tridents, but of course Trident4194 doesn't like 41xx does he!
Note although the 41xx are the nominated vehicle any trident will turn up
Quote from: Tony on March 27, 2019, 05:49:51 PM
Well yes NX will be operating the 10H from Monday. The nominated vehicles are the 41xx tridents, but of course Trident4194 doesn't like 41xx does he!
Note although the 41xx are the nominated vehicle any trident will turn up
Just the 10H then, or does that include the 10 and 10S too at all?
Quote from: StourValley98 on March 27, 2019, 06:16:40 PM
Just the 10H then, or does that include the 10 and 10S too at all?
NX will operate all three, but the 10S cannot have tridents on
Quote from: Tony on March 27, 2019, 05:49:51 PM
Well yes NX will be operating the 10H from Monday. The nominated vehicles are the 41xx tridents, but of course Trident4194 doesn't like 41xx does he!
Note although the 41xx are the nominated vehicle any trident will turn up
Now I won't mind these. I hope the vehicles that are coming down have severe faults
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on March 26, 2019, 09:24:55 PM
And the award for best all time comment goes to...... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And now one of the stupidist
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 27, 2019, 07:22:24 PM
Now I won't mind these. I hope the vehicles that are coming down have severe faults
why would we put buses out in service with severe faults
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 27, 2019, 07:22:24 PM
Now I won't mind these. I hope the vehicles that are coming down have severe faults
What vehicles coming down from where?
I presume BC will be operating them?
Quote from: Tony on March 27, 2019, 07:35:36 PM
What vehicles coming down from where?
I thought you put in another thread that the bc tridents will see regular workings until the replacement vehicles come down? Or does this not apply to the 10H/10S? What are you using on the 10S?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 27, 2019, 08:08:26 PM
I thought you put in another thread that the bc tridents will see regular workings until the replacement vehicles come down? Or does this not apply to the 10H/10S? What are you using on the 10S?
No, they are short term contracts and The tridents are the planned vehicles for the length of the contract
Quote from: Tony on March 27, 2019, 08:15:39 PM
No, they are short term contracts and The tridents are the planned vehicles for the length of the contract
Oh nice how long do you have the contract until? End of the year?
Arriva cannock are doing the 19 and 25
Quote from: ntw456 on March 27, 2019, 08:52:46 PM
Arriva cannock are doing the 19 and 25
Nat Exp are doing the 10/10h/10s; 36; 99 and A12 along with the 208 early
Quote from: Tony on March 27, 2019, 08:54:27 PM
Nat Exp are doing the 10/10h/10s; 36; 99 and A12 along with the 208 early
Will be interesting to see NX on those Solihull/Acocks Green routes.
Can a Gemini fit around the 36 or A12 route?
Quote from: 2206 on March 27, 2019, 08:55:35 PM
Will be interesting to see NX on those Solihull/Acocks Green routes.
Can a Gemini fit around the 36 or A12 route?
Silly question! It would be an open top Gemini on the A12. That will be E200, the 36 is down for Tridents
Quote from: Tony on March 27, 2019, 08:56:29 PM
Silly question! It would be an open top Gemini on the A12. That will be E200, the 36 is down for Tridents
Wasn't sure if a decker could do it as i'm not familiar with the A12 route, did the Metrobus not used to be on that route in the past?
Will BC be running the 36 then, rather than AG?
Quote from: ntw456 on March 27, 2019, 08:52:46 PM
Arriva cannock are doing the 19 and 25
With Sprinters?
Quote from: Tony on March 27, 2019, 08:56:29 PM
Silly question! It would be an open top Gemini on the A12. That will be E200, the 36 is down for Tridents
E200s booked for 208?
Quote from: Tony on March 27, 2019, 08:54:27 PM
Nat Exp are doing the 10/10h/10s; 36; 99 and A12 along with the 208 early
Rumour is Greenbus have also picked up some work - so NX may not be the only operator using Tridents on ex iGo contracts
Quote from: metrocity on March 27, 2019, 09:23:14 PM
Rumour is Greenbus have also picked up some work - so NX may not be the only operator using Tridents on ex iGo contracts
Yes I believe they have 2 routes
Quote from: Tony on March 27, 2019, 09:25:50 PM
Yes I believe they have 2 routes
The 145 is one I would think?
whos operating the 99 ?
Quote from: cris 99 on March 27, 2019, 09:41:34 PM
whos operating the 99 ?
National Express West Midlands (Acocks Green garage).
Quote from: Tony on March 27, 2019, 08:54:27 PM
Nat Exp are doing the 36
Pity there are no Jumbos around for old times sake. :)
Quote from: ntw456 on March 27, 2019, 08:52:46 PM
Arriva cannock are doing the 19 and 25
Now I wouldnt have bet on Arriva Cannock joining in, due to Arriva having to pull out of Wednesfield not so long back!
Suppose we can look forward to 'via Blakenhall' again on the printed information!
As for the 25, thats the furthest south Cannock has operated for a few years surely?
In fact, is printed information being updated, albeit temporaily, or not?
Quote from: metrocity on March 27, 2019, 09:23:14 PM
Rumour is Greenbus have also picked up some work - so NX may not be the only operator using Tridents on ex iGo contracts
One is the 38 ( Northfield - Selly oak via Cotteridge) and the other is most likely the 42 ( West Heath - Hollymoor Way). A
Quote from: Cedric on March 27, 2019, 10:51:48 PM
Maybe one for diamond
Rumour is the 19 ( Rubery Great Park - Maypole).
Does anyone know what is happening to the services they run in the Warwickshire area? The very infrequent ones such as the 223 that runs on Mondays only?
Will ATG still be operating these next week or will there be a replacement?
And also if there's no replacement for the 800, will there be sufficient capacity on the 14 to take all the extra passengers?
Quote from: 4369Beast on March 27, 2019, 10:59:29 PM
Rumour is the 19 ( Rubery Great Park - Maypole).
Diamond gain Igo further tenders from 31/03/19:
89 Coventry
19 Maypole
22/53 until 27/04/19 (When they move to Banga as originally planned)
Who got the 539&580 & Bedworth service
Quote from: Solo1 on March 28, 2019, 05:27:56 AM
Who got the 539/80 & Bedworth service
Don't know about the 80, but the 539 should be announced by Warks CC today
What I've read
A12 NX bus
10 10h 10s NX bus
19 Walsall arriva
19 Northfield diamond
22 diamond wednesbury end banga Wolverhampton end
25 arriva
36 NX bus
38 Green Bus
39 Kev's
42 (Green bus ?)
50
53 banga
57 diamond
69 Johnson's
80 diamond
89 diamond
96 withdrawn
99 NX bus
145
326 diamond
208 nx bus
530 banga
539
580
The others which only run 1 a day or 1 a week not sure wonder if a&m might run them along with the Bedworth services
Some of the other routes are warwickshire or Worcestershire contracts. They will obviously be dealing with them in their own way.
Quote from: Steveminor on March 28, 2019, 09:21:25 AM
Some of the other routes are warwickshire or Worcestershire contracts. They will obviously be dealing with them in their own way.
I don't believe the 145 has been put out to tender yet. It hadn't earlier in the week
Quote from: cris 99 on March 27, 2019, 09:41:34 PM
whos operating the 99 ?
Quote from: Nathan on March 27, 2019, 09:43:12 PM
National Express West Midlands (Acocks Green garage).
Could we see more of 733/734 in regular service, perhaps? :P
Anyone know about the a12? Nx hopefully?
Quote from: WMT3000 on March 28, 2019, 10:30:37 AM
Anyone know about the a12? Nx hopefully?
I have already posted that one, Yes NX AG garage
Quote from: Tony on March 28, 2019, 10:32:37 AM
I have already posted that one, Yes NX AG garage
Thanks Tony. Must have missed the post in my excitement about the 99!
Quote from: WMT3000 on March 28, 2019, 10:34:41 AM
Thanks Tony. Must have missed the post in my excitement about the 99!
Solo1 has missed the A12 off the above list.
Quote from: Solo1 on March 28, 2019, 09:18:21 AM
What I've read
A12 NX bus
10 10h 10s NX bus
19 Walsall arriva
19 Northfield diamond
22 diamond wednesbury end banga Wolverhampton end
25 arriva
36 NX bus
38 Green Bus
39 Kev's
42 (Green bus ?)
50
53 banga
57 diamond
69 Johnson's
80 diamond
89 diamond
96 withdrawn
99 NX bus
145
326 diamond
208 nx bus
530 banga
539
580
The others which only run 1 a day or 1 a week not sure wonder if a&m might run them along with the Bedworth services
I can confirm that the 42 Hollymoor - West Heath will be operated from Monday by KEV'sbus
Quote from: Winston on March 28, 2019, 12:00:05 AM
Diamond gain Igo further tenders from 31/03/19:
89 Coventry
19 Maypole
22/53 until 27/04/19 (When they move to Banga as originally planned)
Aside the 89/539/580, iGo run (soon to be ran it seems) the 41 and 47 in Coventry - don't know what is happening to those.
Quote from: paulb1973 on March 28, 2019, 02:46:32 PM
41 and 47 in Coventry - don't know what is happening to those.
Igo don't run those anymore, they are operated by Community Transport (Coventry)
I'm guessing the A12 will get renumbered. Perhaps the 32 or 31ᴬ?
Quote from: MasterPlan on March 28, 2019, 03:18:28 PM
I'm guessing the A12 will get renumbered. Perhaps the 32 or 31ᴬ?
Why? The A12 has only been renumbered from '30' & fits in with all the other Solihull 'A' route numbers
Quote from: igogeneral on March 28, 2019, 02:10:43 PM
I can confirm that the 42 Hollymoor - West Heath will be operated from Monday by KEV'sbus
Will Kevs be operating the 39 from Monday too? And I assume it will be Primos on both routes, unless the MMC200s have arrived secretly ;)
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on March 28, 2019, 03:48:00 PM
Will Kevs be operating the 39 from Monday too? And I assume it will be Primos on both routes, unless the MMC200s have arrived secretly ;)
The Enviro's have arrived and are having livery fitted as I speak. They will be fully operational Monday.
Quote from: Winston on March 28, 2019, 03:02:27 PM
Igo don't run those anymore, they are operated by Community Transport (Coventry)
I'm a bit behind the times it seems! - on the Oct 2018 Network Coventry/WM guide to Coventry, it still shows Igo as running the 41/47. Clearly that has changed since that was published.
Quote from: paulb1973 on March 28, 2019, 04:31:11 PM
I'm a bit behind the times it seems! - on the Oct 2018 Network Coventry/WM guide to Coventry, it still shows Igo as running the 41/47. Clearly that has changed since that was published.
I didn't know off the top of my head & had to check NWM site (timetables)
Why does the NWM announcement about the 36 say Acocks Green to Sparkhill, rather than Heartlands Hospital to Sparkhill?
Is this another mistake by NWM?
Or is part of the route being scrapped at very short notice ?
Edit -
considering they've also put the A12 is Shirley to Shard End and 99 Solihull to Acocks Green, its probably not the most reliable information.
The announcement also states that Select Bus have the 50 (Wolverhampton).
Quote from: 2206 on March 28, 2019, 05:25:47 PM
The announcement also states that Select Bus have the 50 (Wolverhampton).
That bit is right.
You seem to be getting a few surprises with these retenders.
Quote from: Winston on March 28, 2019, 05:48:03 PM
That bit is right.
Last trip towards Wolverhampton from Wednesfield (15:34) is cut. No surprise really.
It is likely National Express Coventry will take on the 539. I haven't had that definite yet
It says on the network west mids website that the 50 will be operated by select.
http://westmidlandsbususers.co.uk/2019/03/more-igo-bus-services-to-change-operator/
Will the drivers from Igo bus services be moved over on a tupe of r moved under something else
Quote from: Steveminor on March 28, 2019, 08:10:41 PM
http://westmidlandsbususers.co.uk/2019/03/more-igo-bus-services-to-change-operator/
Thanks Steve, all I've done is 'tidy up' the info provided by Network West Midlands and corrected some of their errors. ;)
Any idea what Green Bus will operate on the 38, thr route is not exactly built for double deckers.
Quote from: paulb1973 on March 28, 2019, 02:46:32 PM
Aside the 89/539/580, iGo run (soon to be ran it seems) the 41 and 47 in Coventry - don't know what is happening to those.
539 & 580 now confirmed as National Express Coventry
Quote from: Tony on March 29, 2019, 10:19:27 AM
539 & 580 now confirmed as National Express Coventry
take bus pass vaild on there
Quote from: Tony on March 29, 2019, 10:19:27 AM
539 & 580 now confirmed as National Express Coventry
Is that another 2-3 buses worth of work?
Have Nx got enough vehicles?
Quote from: Winston on March 29, 2019, 10:39:51 AM
Is that another 2-3 buses worth of work?
One on each route
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on March 29, 2019, 10:47:26 AM
Have Nx got enough vehicles?
There's 75 new ones due to start arriving in the next few weeks.
Maybe a bit tight up until then.
Quote from: fleetline6477 on March 28, 2019, 10:24:55 PM
Any idea what Green Bus will operate on the 38, thr route is not exactly built for double deckers.
I swear its been stated above, apologies if not, should be one of the twins 117 or 118 as both are short wheelbase Tridents.
How long are the temporary contracts for?
Quote from: Westy on March 29, 2019, 06:48:06 PM
How long are the temporary contracts for?
They vary
Quote from: Tony on March 29, 2019, 10:19:27 AM
539 & 580 now confirmed as National Express Coventry
Don't often see NXC (and all its predecessors) running through Baginton Village, Bubbenhall, Stoneleigh/NAC and parts of Kenilworth! I'm sure it was in the mid 70s when the PTE stopped running to 'Baginton Civic Airport'
Re. the 580 - some very exotic locations for NXC to serve; aside Baginton & Bubbenhall there is Princethorpe, Marton, Dunchurch and Rugby amongst others!
Quote from: paulb1973 on March 29, 2019, 07:12:50 PM
Don't often see NXC (and all its predecessors) running through Baginton Village, Bubbenhall, Stoneleigh/NAC and parts of Kenilworth! I'm sure it was in the mid 70s when the PTE stopped running to 'Baginton Civic Airport'
Re. the 580 - some very exotic locations for NXC to serve; aside Baginton & Bubbenhall there is Princethorpe, Marton, Dunchurch and Rugby amongst others!
It will be NXWM as far as the public is concerned as 837; 838 & 839 are the vehicles of choice
Quote from: Tony on March 29, 2019, 07:19:00 PM
It will be NXWM as far as the public is concerned as 837; 838 & 839 are the vehicles of choice
Quote from: BN on March 29, 2019, 02:21:27 PM
755; 756 WN-BC
835; 836 AG-WN
Will the A12 and 99 get 831 - 834?
Is that enough for the A12, 99 and JLR? Or will the JLR see the MMC instead?
Quote from: Tony on March 29, 2019, 07:19:00 PM
It will be NXWM as far as the public is concerned as 837; 838 & 839 are the vehicles of choice
Ah right, although I suppose 'blue' buses may appear occasionally. I don't know if double deckers can run on those routes?
Quote from: paulb1973 on March 29, 2019, 07:27:27 PM
Ah right, although I suppose 'blue' buses may appear occasionally. I don't know if double deckers can run on those routes?
Nothing bigger than an E200 can be used. They have 3 red ones for two duties
@Tony It'll be interesting to see if your friend Mr Fitchew manages to do a bash on these ex Igo routes Nx have got, for his blog, while Nx has them!
Quote from: Solo1 on March 29, 2019, 10:31:32 AM
take bus pass vaild on there
NXC have indicated (https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/service-changes/national-express-coventry-to-run-some-igo-services-from-1st-april-2019) their day tickets and travelcards will be valid.
Can't say too much on open forum for obvious reasons but I know a little of the challenges that the "current" management team at ATG have been facing over these past 18 months or so and I know how bitterly disappointed & emotionally upset they are that it has ended. There is one individual I know reads this forum whom I have had a lot of contact with in various meetings etc & I should like to say publicly you, your input on various things & your opinions will be sorely missed & I personally shall miss you & all you stood for. Good luck in your future & to all those at igo atg ring & ride good luck to you all I hope you all have successful futures and wherever you all end up you will be an asset to that business.
It truly is an end of an era.
Quote from: Steveminor on March 29, 2019, 09:12:08 PM
Can't say too much on open forum for obvious reasons but I know a little of the challenges that the "current" management team at ATG have been facing over these past 18 months or so and I know how bitterly disappointed & emotionally upset they are that it has ended. There is one individual I know reads this forum whom I have had a lot of contact with in various meetings etc & I should like to say publicly you, your input on various things & your opinions will be sorely missed & I personally shall miss you & all you stood for. Good luck in your future & to all those at igo atg ring & ride good luck to you all I hope you all have successful futures and wherever you all end up you will be an asset to that business.
It truly is an end of an era.
Hopefully a buyer for the ATG group can still be found
We can only hope Tony but I fear Igo is gone for good & Ring & Ride will never be the same again whatever happens.
Quote from: Steveminor on March 29, 2019, 09:12:08 PM
Can't say too much on open forum for obvious reasons but I know a little of the challenges that the "current" management team at ATG have been facing over these past 18 months or so and I know how bitterly disappointed & emotionally upset they are that it has ended. There is one individual I know reads this forum whom I have had a lot of contact with in various meetings etc & I should like to say publicly you, your input on various things & your opinions will be sorely missed & I personally shall miss you & all you stood for. Good luck in your future & to all those at igo atg ring & ride good luck to you all I hope you all have successful futures and wherever you all end up you will be an asset to that business.
It truly is an end of an era.
Times change and sadly sometimes business don't. All are led from the top and if the top doesn't listen to those with years in the industry then the outcome won't be good.
There are people who put their heart and soul into ATG (and companies) and were passionate about what they did - not just for the business but for their customers too.
I'm sure that Ring and Ride will continue in some form or another. However, I'm sad to see the igo brand disappear from the streets of the West Midlands.
A12 not running today, according to Network West Midlands - in case anyone was hoping to catch igo's last day on it. :'(
Quote from: tjwpsv on March 30, 2019, 10:15:29 AM
A12 not running today, according to Network West Midlands - in case anyone was hoping to catch igo's last day on it. :'(
Didnn't appear to be yesterday either.
It never turned up at its timetabled time. (Either that or it was very late).
Will Igo still be operating the 145, 800 and infrequent Warwickshire/Solihull area services on Monday morning? Or will these routes not run, or is there a replacement operator taking over these services from Monday?
I believe the warwickshire flexibus will still operate but the 800 will not. Not sure about 145.
surprised to see both 99s running today thought they were finished yesterday although i suspoect they will finish early today
Quote from: cris 99 on March 30, 2019, 12:27:18 PM
surprised to see both 99s running today thought they were finished yesterday although i suspoect they will finish early today
22 was definitely running as of an hour or two ago too.
Quote from: StourValley98 on March 30, 2019, 05:30:40 PM
22 was definitely running as of an hour or two ago too.
Not sure if the 38 and 39 have been, but the 10S/19/42/145 all have been too
19 has only had one bus on today
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on March 30, 2019, 05:33:20 PM
Not sure if the 38 and 39 have been, but the 10S/19/42/145 all have been too
I've photographed a few today as well including a 208
Quote from: Tony on March 30, 2019, 05:50:05 PM
I've photographed a few today as well including a 208
Saw you at Dudley at 1:10 at Dudley bus station when I got on the 208
Just seen the nx timetables for the 10, 10H and 10S.
Noticed that NXWM will be operating route 10 to the old timetables at roughly every 30 mins rather than the reduced frequency introduced this week of every 45 mins.
99 didn't run its last service to shard end today
Not sure if the bus stop changed but would be great if 10/H stopped with 23 and 24 in Colmore Row
Quote from: Steveminor on March 30, 2019, 10:48:27 AM
I believe the warwickshire flexibus will still operate but the 800 will not. Not sure about 145.
I believe the Warwickshire Flexibus will operate as it will be somebody else running it...
Quote from: Sayeed on March 31, 2019, 02:28:53 PM
Not sure if the bus top changed but would be great if 10/H stopped with 23 and 24 in Colmore Row
As they're emergency replacement services I doubt anything will change at least in the short term
What has or is expected to happen to the igo bus fleet?
Quote from: fleetline6477 on April 08, 2019, 06:15:25 PM
What has or is expected to happen to the igo bus fleet?
The majority is leased so it'll be returned to whoever owns them, as for any that they do own, they will probably be sold to recoup some money to pay off the debt.
Quote from: StourValley98 on April 08, 2019, 06:28:00 PM
The majority is leased so it'll be returned to whoever owns them, as for any that they do own, they will probably be sold to recoup some money to pay off the debt.
Until the end of 2016, the only vehicless owned were the four Tay Road Solo SRs and the 52 plate MPD.
What is happening with Igos bus fleet.
Earlier today I saw 2005 parked in New Farm Road Stourbridge at a house, not unusual because I have seen one parked there before but now the firm is in administration, i wouldn't have thought buses could be used?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 11, 2019, 03:00:32 PM
What is happening with Igos bus fleet.
Earlier today I saw 2005 parked in New Farm Road Stourbridge at a house, not unusual because I have seen one parked there before but now the firm is in administration, i wouldn't have thought buses could be used?
new farm road there is a ring and ride yard
Quote from: karl724223 on April 11, 2019, 05:12:09 PM
new farm road there is a ring and ride yard
Not a Ring & Ride vehicle I don't think 2005, plus was parked nearly opposite The Hadcroft on the verge!
Seen whilst travelling up the Hagley Road this morning Igo Solo's YJ66 ANV & YJ67 FYM travelling towards town.
I understand that several operators have recently visited ATG's Aston HQ with a view to making a potential takeover offer. It's suggested one of them may be NX, does anyone have any idea who the others could be?
Igo 126 passing bromford atm
Quote from: Winston on April 15, 2019, 09:46:42 PM
I understand that several operators have recently visited ATG's Aston HQ with a view to making a potential takeover offer. It's suggested one of them may be NX, does anyone have any idea who the others could be?
Maybe Diamond??
I wonder would this just be for the Ring & Ride part of the business?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 16, 2019, 10:25:49 PM
Maybe Diamond??
I wonder would this just be for the Ring & Ride part of the business?
All those Birmingham Council home to school runs will have to be operated by somebody, and that is a lot of work
Brave people to take over a charity. Maybe another supposed charity based in the South may yet charge in. Remember not many of the home to school drivers have a PSV licence so the prospects not really good for a commercial operation, or are they ?
Would there be any merit in the business being developed in to a commercial demand responsive service that could attract a wider audience over OAP's & less able bodied travellors.
Potentially a fleet upgrade of low floor sprinters etc, to distance itself from the Ring & Ride brand and attract more passengers of all ages.
Lot of investment required for that and given the drop over the years in Ring and Ride trips not sure the demand would be there given the already excellent commercial services in our area.
Wouldn't the gradual switch of standard buses to low floor & companies pushing this, have contributed to the decline of Ring & Ride?
Quote from: Westy on April 17, 2019, 03:28:33 PM
Wouldn't the gradual switch of standard buses to low floor & companies pushing this, have contributed to the decline of Ring & Ride?
That's what I was thinking, modern buses are so much more accessible these days.
Sadly the current Ring & Ride model is not working, but how you fix it is antbody's guess!
Are all the igo services up for retending apart from the ones that change 28 April
Quote from: Solo1 on April 21, 2019, 06:48:25 AM
Are all the igo services up for retending apart from the ones that change 28 April
Some from June and rest in October
Ont of the deckers have been sighted in one of the Yorkshire scrapyards
https://www.flickr.com/photos/61188429@N06/40704169503/in/dateposted/
Quote from: John on April 22, 2019, 08:54:33 PM
Ont of the deckers have been sighted in one of the Yorkshire scrapyards
https://www.flickr.com/photos/61188429@N06/40704169503/in/dateposted/
That Flickr user has uploaded a distant picture of an unidentified NXC Dennis Trident on tow - presumably heading to a scrapyard. I assume one of the 42xx Y/TOH batch.
Quote from: paulb1973 on April 22, 2019, 09:36:58 PM
That Flickr user has uploaded a distant picture of an unidentified NXC Dennis Trident on tow - presumably heading to a scrapyard. I assume one of the 42xx Y/TOH batch.
It looks like 4190
Quote from: John on April 22, 2019, 10:24:33 PM
It looks like 4190
4190 was a tidy looking bus (like the one pictured!) so quite probably that.
Igo Solo SR's for sale:
https://chartwellbussales.co.uk/buses_details.php?bus=132
While waiting for a return flight yesterday I popped around to Elmdon Industrial Estate to see if there were any ring & ride vehicles visible the unit they were in has been vacated by them and was occupied by 2 tanks!
Where have ring & ride moved to?
Quote from: midlandred2003 on May 06, 2019, 04:44:57 PM
While waiting for a return flight yesterday I popped around to Elmdon Industrial Estate to see if there were any ring & ride vehicles visible the unit they were in has been vacated by them and was occupied by 2 tanks!
Where have ring & ride moved to?
aston head office I believe they moved late last year see link http://ringandride.org/news/index.html
Quote from: Winston on April 30, 2019, 10:27:07 PM
Igo Solo SR's for sale:
https://chartwellbussales.co.uk/buses_details.php?bus=132
I was surprised to see that these vehicles are Euro 5 despite the fact they are 67 plates ?
Quote from: igogeneral on May 10, 2019, 02:26:04 PM
I was surprised to see that these vehicles are Euro 5 despite the fact they are 67 plates ?
Dealer stock possibly?
I think the classic shape E200s that were still appearing up until very recently were also euro 5
Quote from: Tony on May 10, 2019, 04:22:20 PM
I think the classic shape E200s that were still appearing up until very recently were also euro 5
Supporting this, the Johnsons 68-reg Classic E200s were upgraded from Euro 5 to Euro 6 by Baumot Engineering before entering service - see https://cbwmagazine.com/johnsons-excelbus-expands-in-solihull-and-coventry/
Solo YJ10 EYR is out today on hire to Birmingham Council, spotted it just before 3PM outside Newman University.
According to company's house dated 2nd July they will be dissolved in two months from that date.
Quote from: midlandred2003 on July 10, 2019, 11:59:31 AM
According to company's house dated 2nd July they will be dissolved in two months from that date.
I believe the administrators are considering 4 offers to purchase the company/Assetts
Thank you Tony
Quote from: Tony on July 10, 2019, 12:02:45 PM
I believe the administrators are considering 4 offers to purchase the company/Assetts
Fair bit of interest then.
NX Group have renamed the dormant Limited company formerly 'Travel Coventry Limited' to WEST MIDLANDS ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT LIMITED with Companies House as of 2nd July:
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/02327223/filing-history
So is it safe to assume N/X are acquiring the vehicles and depots of Ring & Ride?
Quote from: midlandred2003 on July 14, 2019, 12:26:53 PM
So is it safe to assume N/X are acquiring the vehicles and depots of Ring & Ride?
No it's not safe to assume, but the timing and name chosen seems a bit a coincidence.......
That's what I thought, thank you.
Quote from: Winston on July 14, 2019, 12:37:10 PM
No it's not safe to assume, but the timing and name chosen seems a bit a coincidence.......
It also does line up with what I've heard on the grapevine...
Quote from: Winston on July 14, 2019, 12:37:10 PM
No it's not safe to assume, but the timing and name chosen seems a bit a coincidence.......
My interpretation would be that rather than acquiring the company (ATG) as a whole, NX could be setting up a new company to take over certain contracts. Whether that would entail purchasing some assets (depots, vehicles etc) is another matter...
Quote from: Stu on July 15, 2019, 07:18:20 PM
My interpretation would be that rather than acquiring the company (ATG) as a whole, NX could be setting up a new company to take over certain contracts. Whether that would entail purchasing some assets (depots, vehicles etc) is another matter...
I agree.
They may be purchasing the contracts & assets from the adminstration within a new limited company to start with a clean slate. Depending on what it includes, if it's the lot, both vehicles & depots will be needed.
https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/news/article/451/new_provider_for_home-to-school_transport_service
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on July 17, 2019, 03:32:14 PM
https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/news/article/451/new_provider_for_home-to-school_transport_service
Does anyone know which Solo/E200 ATG still have in their fleet?
Will NX be getting some those contracts that the Solo and E200 are currently used on.
I see them on the Washwood Heath Road and by Fox and Goose some afternoons driving around displaying "On Hire to Birmingham City Council".
I've noticed a Solo parked up empty here on the Washwood Heath Road on a few afternoons over the last week or 2 - https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.4951406,-1.853622,3a,74y,343.66h,88.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3N5Hv82HffrGfPh_-FNxDA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Not sure what it does?
Quote from: 2206 on July 18, 2019, 06:25:50 PM
Does anyone know which Solo/E200 ATG still have in their fleet?
Will NX be getting some those contracts that the Solo and E200 are currently used on.
I see them on the Washwood Heath Road and by Fox and Goose some afternoons driving around displaying "On Hire to Birmingham City Council".
I've noticed a Solo parked up empty here on the Washwood Heath Road on a few afternoons over the last week or 2 - https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.4951406,-1.853622,3a,74y,343.66h,88.29t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s3N5Hv82HffrGfPh_-FNxDA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Not sure what it does?
With ATG finishing next week, I have put a closing fleetlist on the main site which shows which buses are still owned. This is a closing ATG fleetlist, not a new West Midlands Accessible Transport list
http://wmbusphotos.com/Ring+Ride/fleetlist.html
Yj59PKK 25 branded now with centre bus stevenage.
Former Igo Optare Solo SR YJ67 FYT noted in Wakefield, West Yorkshire today with Ross Travel.
Does anyone know where the igo buses are now? Are they still at their respective depots or have they been sold off to other bus companies?
Quote from: Busboy105 on September 14, 2019, 03:38:51 PM
Does anyone know where the igo buses are now? Are they still at their respective depots or have they been sold off to other bus companies?
The ring & ride vehicles are now with N.E.A.T. Some of the service buses have been sold.
Do you know who it was sold to?
Quote from: Busboy105 on September 14, 2019, 06:01:07 PM
Do you know who it was sold to?
Who which one was sold to?
The ex-Igo service buses
Quote from: Busboy105 on September 14, 2019, 08:10:54 PM
The ex-Igo service buses
Many of them were leased so returned to their leasing companies. Some have since been leased out or purchased by other operators.
Hmmmm... ok. Kind of sad what happened to Igo they were a decent bus company. I expected Rotala to take over since they've taken over half the bus companies in the West Midlands. :D
Quote from: Nathan on September 14, 2019, 08:21:31 PM
Many of them were leased so returned to their leasing companies. Some have since been leased out or purchased by other operators.
Indeed. I know some of the YD63 Solos passed to Brylaine Travel, Lincs, and some of the YJ67s passed to Ross Travel, Yorkshire. One of the Tridents (maybe both) was scrapped, and the Metrocitys were being advertised for sale in Coach&Bus Week
Looks like ATG might have got into trouble with the TC if it had not gone into administration judging by this ruling that an operator cannot have both an O-license and section 19/22 permits
https://www.busandcoachbuyer.com/tc-s19-and-o-licences-dont-mix/
The "O" licences were operated by igo which was separated from the other arms of ATG (Group). This is much the same way as HCT do or did operate as I understand it. As a point of interest PD1129 O licence has been in the hands of WMSNT, later ATG (Group) since at least 1990 where 10 discs were awarded in order to operate larger vehicles on registered services in Walsall, Wolverhampton, Birmingham and Coventry. The fact that NatEx has now had to operate all vehicles under "O" licences will put heavy financial restrictions on the services operated, especially Ring and Ride, in the future which will be interesting to observe short to long term. I sincerely hope all goes well with future TfWM funding.
All nine full size buses remaining at the end of operations have now been fully purchased by NX (323-7, 729/730, 800 & 1744).
327, 729, 730 & 1744 at least are likely to see use with NX
former igo YJ67 FYU with Ross Travel - retaining its old livery, save for the red stripe, which is now blue
https://flic.kr/p/2hrHfm2
Former iGo HQ / main depot now on the market
https://www.avisonyoung.co.uk/web/uk/properties/-/property/detail-gva+15250
Quote from: metrocity on October 19, 2019, 02:02:47 PM
Former iGo HQ / main depot now on the market
https://www.avisonyoung.co.uk/web/uk/properties/-/property/detail-gva+15250
Where's NEAT moving in to instead then?
Quote from: Winston on October 19, 2019, 04:02:55 PM
Where's NEAT moving in to instead then?
They're probably going to split the fleet into different garages.
Best of luck with that trying to squeeze 400 plus mini buses into the remaining depots?
Quote from: midlandred2003 on October 19, 2019, 07:47:14 PM
Best of luck with that trying to squeeze 400 plus mini buses into the remaining depots?
Is Lea Hall and Hockley still about? I know they've closed down but it can renovated and open again for these minibuses.
Passed Lea Hall the other day & it is up for sale
Quote from: Busboy105 on October 19, 2019, 09:37:47 PM
Is Lea Hall and Hockley still about? I know they've closed down but it can renovated and open again for these minibuses.
Both of these garages are no longer owned by NX, and Hockley is now a Banqueting and Conference centre.
Quote from: D10 on October 20, 2019, 09:09:45 PM
Both of these garages are no longer owned by NX, and Hockley is now a Banqueting and Conference centre.
Wait Bingley Hall used to be Hockley Garage? The more you know.
Quote from: Busboy105 on October 20, 2019, 09:30:06 PM
Wait Bingley Hall used to be Hockley Garage? The more you know.
Yes, the New Bingley Hall is the old Hockley garage!
Quote from: D10 on October 20, 2019, 09:09:45 PM
Both of these garages are no longer owned by NX, and Hockley is now a Banqueting and Conference centre.
Is that a similar sort of thing to what the old Bingo Hall is at Tower Hill (Walsall Road)?
Quote from: Westy on October 21, 2019, 12:45:58 PM
Is that a similar sort of thing to what the old Bingo Hall is at Tower Hill (Walsall Road)?
Almost. The Tower Hill venue is/was a bingo hall. The Hockley site was purpose built.
Quote from: Winston on October 19, 2019, 04:02:55 PM
Where's NEAT moving in to instead then?
I wonder if there's the possibility that NX might look to rent part/most of the building off the new owners?
Quote from: Westy on October 21, 2019, 12:45:58 PM
Is that a similar sort of thing to what the old Bingo Hall is at Tower Hill (Walsall Road)?
As with may bingo halls the one at Tower Hill was built as a cinema for, and operated by, Sydney W. Clift's small independent Clifton Cinemas circuit. It was opened on 21st February 1938. It closed on 10th November 1979. It was converted into a bingo club, which continued as a Gala Bingo Club until closing in June 2008. It was converted into a Chinese restaurant, but this closed by 2011. Despite an arson attack in the early hours of 6th January 2012, it has been rebuilt as a banqueting hall which opened I believe in 2016.
Kx59cyz has now appeared in Glasgow
https://www.facebook.com/176051159874579/posts/566834017462956/
A few ex-igo Metrocitys have cropped up in Nottingham - only on loan though, as the captions suggest
(not my photos)
https://flic.kr/p/2ixZ1RH
https://flic.kr/p/2ixZ1Mu
Quote from: Busboy105 on September 14, 2019, 03:38:51 PM
Does anyone know where the igo buses are now? Are they still at their respective depots or have they been sold off to other bus companies?
3 envrio's are with travel express based in Wolverhampton
Quote from: Solo1 on April 02, 2020, 08:27:51 AM
3 envrio's are with travel express based in Wolverhampton
Banga have solo sr YD63 UZY