West Midlands Bus joint routes

[I love Walsall buses]

What makes you think NX will be happy to give Diamond 4M working's?

Well didn't diamond run it before but not the number 4M but another number

[Sh4318]

Well didn't diamond run it before but not the number 4M but another number

No, they began running between Walsall & Merry Hill when the 4M was introduced.

You may be referring to the 417, between Hayley Green & West Bromwich, Diamond essentially joined the 4 & 417 to create their version of the 4H

[I love Walsall buses]

No, they began running between Walsall & Merry Hill when the 4M was introduced.

You may be referring to the 417, between Hayley Green & West Bromwich, Diamond essentially joined the 4 & 417 to create their version of the 4H

Oh ok thanks mate

[midlandred2003]

It was originally 217 in bham coach days.

[winston]

Well didn't diamond run it before but not the number 4M but another number

It is a commercial route solely operated by NXWM, they aren't going to just give away a portion of the revenue if there's nothing in it for them.

The current routes jointly operated resources were equally matched & both operators have benefitted from Pvr / Cost Savings which should mean they are more profitable.

[MW]

Kind of relevant. For the last few weeks, the tickets issued on the Diamond 50 say West Midlands Bus and not Diamond. At least on the Sunday service operates out of Redditch.

[Matt.N0056]

Kind of relevant. For the last few weeks, the tickets issued on the Diamond 50 say West Midlands Bus and not Diamond. At least on the Sunday service operates out of Redditch.

With the driving I've done last week I've noticed it on various routes but not all the time. Some were printing it on Solihull's  & some journeys on the 75...

[Westy]

Got to the Walsall 31 / 32 stop for approx 1330.

Nothing appeared until approx 1355, when a Diamond displaying 301 turned up.

I know theres a diversion in bound in Walsall(St Pauls Street closed!) but surely not to the extent of that sort of delay on a Sunday?

[Tony]

Got to the Walsall 31 / 32 stop for approx 1330.

Nothing appeared until approx 1355, when a Diamond displaying 301 turned up.

I know theres a diversion in bound in Walsall(St Pauls Street closed!) but surely not to the extent of that sort of delay on a Sunday?

The NX 13:10 31 left 20 late at 13:30
The NX 13:35 32 left 19 late at 13:54

[DJ]

Does anyone know what typeface is used for the 'West Midlands Bus' logo text, and other branding?

[Simon Dunn]

It's a TfWM idea not NXs if they wanted to reduce PVR they would have asked to do more of these co op routes.

I don't diamond were too thrilled with the idea.
@Simon Dunn how is new WM bus working well on the 42/3?

I am not sure what the question is.  We are operate a dfferent route, to a lower PVR.  It is early days.  There are some teething issues.  I think both operators buses look good.   

[Westy]

Think some more education of the travelling public is needed.

While on the 11a this evening(See the late running thread for that one!), I got talking to this woman.

Turned out she lived in the Dudleys Fields area & used either the 70 or 31.

She only had a NX pass.

I told her she could use that pass on the Diamond 31, but she wasn't aware!

[I love Walsall buses]

Think some more education of the travelling public is needed.

While on the 11a this evening(See the late running thread for that one!), I got talking to this woman.

Turned out she lived in the Dudleys Fields area & used either the 70 or 31.

She only had a NX pass.

I told her she could use that pass on the Diamond 31, but she wasn't aware!

A lot of people aren't aware I Over heard this man saying he's been waiting fifteen minutes for a diamond to come and then a bus station surpervisor said you can get on any bus to Mossley or lower farm with whatever bus pass or ticket you've got and he said I wish drivers or the website would inform you then I thought there was plenty of notices everywhere on websites on the buses even on the bus station stand so what a bad excuse

[2206]

A lot of people aren't aware I Over heard this man saying he's been waiting fifteen minutes for a diamond to come and then a bus station surpervisor said you can get on any bus to Mossley or lower farm with whatever bus pass or ticket you've got and he said I wish drivers or the website would inform you then I thought there was plenty of notices everywhere on websites on the buses even on the bus station stand so what a bad excuse

Because lots of people don't look on the website or read the notices - the person you mentioned and the one @Westy mentioned more than likely haven't looked at the website or read the notices so they are unaware.
I imagine they are also so used to the drivers saying they can only use there pass on certain buses in the past, that they haven't tried to get on the other bus so they haven't realised.

[I love Walsall buses]

Because lots of people don't look on the website or read the notices - the person you mentioned and the one @Westy mentioned more than likely haven't looked at the website or read the notices so they are unaware.
I imagine they are also so used to the drivers saying they can only use there pass on certain buses in the past, that they haven't tried to get on the other bus so they haven't realised.

You have got a point there