West Midlands Bus joint routes

[I love Walsall buses]

There use to be Diamomd and NX on the 17, but they withdrew it around the end of 2012/early 2013.
If it works I'd think the 40 would be a candidate.

or the  41 in West Bromwich I'm not sure if both NX and diamond run on it

[Jack]

or the  41 in West Bromwich I'm not sure if both NX and diamond run on it

NX haven't ran that for about 4 years, it's just Diamond.

[I love Walsall buses]

NX haven't ran that for about 4 years, it's just Diamond.

my mistake I didn't know that

[Sh4318]

I'd find it interesting to see how NX & Diamond would 'combine' (for lack of a better word) on the 16 or 50, with NX using double deckers & Diamond using singles

or the  41 in West Bromwich I'm not sure if both NX and diamond run on it

It's the 41 & 41A now (both hourly each). 41A was introduced last year to replace the 47A

[2206]

I'd find it interesting to see how NX & Diamond would 'combine' (for lack of a better word) on the 16 or 50, with NX using double deckers & Diamond using singles


It's the 41 & 41A now (both hourly each). 41A was introduced last year to replace the 47A

The 94 would be the same - NX using deckers and Claribels using single deckers.
A pulsar would never be able to cope with some of the loads NX carry on the 94 at the moment.
@Tony did say further negotiations around the other routes would need to happen -  routes chosen at the minute are where both operators are willing to put the same resources into the route.

If you notice, the two routes being done are where both operators are willing to put exactly the same resources into the joint operation. In both cases this means savings in PVR for both operators.

There would need to be a lot more negotiations around the other routes being mentioned

[MasterPlan]

There use to be Diamomd and NX on the 17, but they withdrew it around the end of 2012/early 2013.
If it works I'd think the 40 would be a candidate.

I was just using a random route as an example. My point is as doing this saves on PVR on both sides it could open the possibility for new routes maybe on Diamond's end perhaps.

[Tony]

I was just using a random route as an example. My point is as doing this saves on PVR on both sides it could open the possibility for new routes maybe on Diamond's end perhaps.

How can it reduce PVR on both sides if it means one operator starting a new service?

[Trident 4194]

4 corridor has not to be a candidate.

[MW]

You guys do realise that it's not in NX's interest to do all this. Well not too much anyway as it weakens there Travelcard ticket.

On the other hand, if people can buy NX daysavers from competitiors running in partnership, why would people buy nbus day tickets.

[MasterPlan]

How can it reduce PVR on both sides if it means one operator starting a new service?

I never said that. I said the ones that have been done so far have.

[Westy]

Surely WA 4 has got to be a candidate ?

[MW]

I don't think this scheme will last long personally.

[I love Walsall buses]

Surely WA 4 has got to be a candidate ?

Agree with the 4H and 4M if diamond would prepare to do the 4M aswell

[winston]

Agree with the 4H and 4M if diamond would prepare to do the 4M aswell

What makes you think NX will be happy to give Diamond 4M working's?

[Straightlines]

What makes you think NX will be happy to give Diamond 4M working's?

What makes you think they wouldn't?

They are continuously looking for cost saving opportunities and PVR reduction.