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Started by Stu, December 09, 2017, 12:50:21 PM

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Wba_lad

Quote from: Tony on December 27, 2023, 11:34:47 AMThe first passenger use of a class 730 in the West Midlands is currently planned for 29th January, although I have been asked to not reveal exact details yet
I'm assuming it will be on the cross city line, I didn't know you knew things about the trains like admin stuff. But means we find out a lot more if you do. 

Roy

Quote from: Wba_lad on December 27, 2023, 10:02:19 PMI'm assuming it will be on the cross city line, I didn't know you knew things about the trains like admin stuff. But means we find out a lot more if you do.
I don't know if there's been a change of plan but WMT told stakeholders three months ago that the initial route in the West Midlands to get the 730/0s would be Walsall to Wolverhampton via New Street. 

Sh4318

Quote from: Roy on January 01, 2024, 10:42:40 AMI don't know if there's been a change of plan but WMT told stakeholders three months ago that the initial route in the West Midlands to get the 730/0s would be Walsall to Wolverhampton via New Street.
It'll be nice to see some new stock on the Stour Valley. I can't help but feel like we get spoilt. Hopefully they're treated better than the 350s currently do, they're a wastebin and foot rest on this particular route
Class 153, 155 and 156. The Super Sprinters
Local Routes: 21, 89, 48/A, 12/A, 54/A
Semi-local routes: 80, 87

BK63 YWP

QuoteIt'll be nice to see some new stock on the Stour Valley. I can't help but feel like we get spoilt. Hopefully they're treated better than the 350s currently do, they're a wastebin and foot rest on this particular route
Will be interesting to see how the 3 cars cope unless they are going to run some 6 cars with sdo
The Funny sounding Enviro 400

15 Wolverhampton to Merry Hill
15A Wolverhampton Merry Hill
16 Wolverhampton to Stourbridge

X10 Gornal Wood

Tony

Quote from: BK63 YWP on January 01, 2024, 12:41:31 PMWill be interesting to see how the 3 cars cope unless they are going to run some 6 cars with sdo
They are longer cars than the 350s so a 3 car 730 has more capacity than a 4 car 350

Steve3229vp

Quote from: Tony on January 01, 2024, 02:35:13 PMThey are longer cars than the 350s so a 3 car 730 has more capacity than a 4 car 350
Is that seating capacity or are you including standees as well ?

Tony

Quote from: Steve3229vp on January 01, 2024, 03:52:16 PMIs that seating capacity or are you including standees as well ?
I believe seating capacity of a 730/0 is slightly higher than a class 350/1 (but less than a 350/2 due to the 3+2 seating)


mikestone

According to wikipedia a three car 730 seats 199 which is less than any variant of 350 except a 350/4 which seat 198!

Roy

Quote from: Tony on December 27, 2023, 08:24:45 PMNo, As per my Comment earlier today on the LNWR thread the Birmingham International to Rugeley is keeping 350s. You cannot run anything longer than 4 to Rugeley
This is a change of plan since September then.  I've just found the slides from the September WMT Stakeholder Conference, and WMT stated then that 4-car Class 350s would be replaced by 3-car 730/0s on B'ham International to Rugeley TV services as part of the roll out of the new units.  Walsall to Wolves would also be 3-car 730/0, while Cross City would be 6-car (2 x 730/0).

Tony

Quote from: Roy on January 02, 2024, 01:21:44 PMThis is a change of plan since September then.  I've just found the slides from the September WMT Stakeholder Conference, and WMT stated then that 4-car Class 350s would be replaced by 3-car 730/0s on B'ham International to Rugeley TV services as part of the roll out of the new units.  Walsall to Wolves would also be 3-car 730/0, while Cross City would be 6-car (2 x 730/0).

I believe the Walsall-Wolverhampton & Cross-City is still the plan

BlackCountryBusSpotter

If there not delayed how often is the train from Walsall to Perry Barr I would get the bus to get to one stop but I don't fancy crossing the A34. 
Local Routes
NXWM 34, 37, 39, 79
DIA 310
WCT 65
Bit Further Away
NXWM 529, 25, 41, 11, 11A, 40, 47
DIA 326, 57, 23, 41A,
Frequently Travelled On Routes
79, 34/37, 39 and Very Occasionally the 529 and 74

ellspurs

Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on January 02, 2024, 08:14:04 PMIf there not delayed how often is the train from Walsall to Perry Barr I would get the bus to get to one stop but I don't fancy crossing the A34.
On the new road layout there's a pedestrian crossing right next to the bus stop to cross over to One Stop.

Trains are up to two trains an hour between Walsall and Perry Barr.

The closest the x51 stops to the One Stop is at the junction with Perry Avenue.

BlackCountryBusSpotter

Quote from: ellspurs on January 02, 2024, 08:44:58 PMOn the new road layout there's a pedestrian crossing right next to the bus stop to cross over to One Stop.

Trains are up to two trains an hour between Walsall and Perry Barr.

The closest the x51 stops to the One Stop is at the junction with Perry Avenue.
How about the 51 I do believe that stops near doesn't it. Or it used to 
Local Routes
NXWM 34, 37, 39, 79
DIA 310
WCT 65
Bit Further Away
NXWM 529, 25, 41, 11, 11A, 40, 47
DIA 326, 57, 23, 41A,
Frequently Travelled On Routes
79, 34/37, 39 and Very Occasionally the 529 and 74

LiamsTransport1

323212 leaves WMT tomorrow heading for Wolverton, 323220 will follow it at the weekend.

The units will go through handback repairs before transfer to allerton. 
Local routes: 19/20/20A/27/39/39A/49/55/63/145/202

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