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Sorry22 diesel deckers  at Perry Barr after the first 40 electric buses enter service

Except the first 40 are unlikely to replace all double decks.

So if I go from Harborne to Swan Island, Yardley that should just be £2 because it's the same 11A service... ?

Yes, there's no extra payment required if you need to change buses at Erdington or Acocks Green

What services will see the new electric buses be going on first as I make it 62 deckers for service - 40 new buses I know the deckers are been replaced i was asking as only 40 new electric buses coming out leaving 12 diesel busesso what will they end up on

62-40=12?

I said E200MMC at WB B7RLE's at WA as they already operate them and maybe some E200's from Coventry to both. WB operate the E200MMC already so I was keeping them together

Pretty pointless trying to guess, it's my job and I don't know yet

So when are the Enviros getting debranded?

When they move on.

The first 40 expected to enter service at Perry Barr are E164-73/6/8/84/9/91/4-201/3-5/7/8/10/1/5/8-24/6/7.

2205 latest bus into paint.
2213 back at AG

[E165]

Current locations of the 88 delivered so far

PB	BC	WA	WN	PN	Aston	MS	Roberts
E165	E176	E166	E164	E224	E196	E243	E174
E167	E229	E171	E168	E227	E198		E175
E170	E231	E218	E169	E228	E199		E177
	E232	E219	E172	E237	E200		E179
	E236	E220	E173	E238	E201		E180
	E242	E221	E178	E239	E203		E181
	E245	E222	E184	E240	E204		E182
	E246	E223	E189	E241	E213		E183
	E247	E225	E191				E185
	E248	E226	E194				E186
	E249	E230	E195				E187
	E250	E235	E197				E188
			E205				E190
			E207				E192
			E208				E193
			E210				E202
			E211				E206
			E216				E209
			E251				E212
			E252				E214
			E253				E215
			E254				E217

I'm starting to bite my fingernails with excitement - will we get to 100 new vehicles awaiting entry into service? Should do. Is this some sort of a record?

Quite possible, yes, they are being delivered at around 5 a week, and we have another 4 weeks before the first batch go into use

OK there is an election coming and one party is proposing big changes for English railways.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68889345

Be interesting to see what happens to the value of shares in the existing train operator businesses

I doubt it will do anything. All they are proposing is letting the current franchise run out, and the current operator risks losing it then anyway even without change

Have you had the chance of driving another electric bus asides from the BYD ones and the electroliner? If so, what is your favourite electric bus so far?

I've driven the Merc & Yutong singles as well.

The Electroliner is my favourite so far, but all four are really nice for the driver so very little in it.

Thanks - 170 in total then - it will be interesting to see what future orders will comprise - electric single deckers will presumably be needed for CV in 2025? Also to see which body builders might be providing  single and double deck bodies on BYD chassis in the future.

The next order, which is likely to start delivery later this year, that I cannot give details of yet, but it will not be BYD

Thanks Tony. From your "Up to..." post I think we can assume what the answer to my question is.

I put it that way because the current order is split into 4 different orders, so as Winston put the current batch is 30, but the total order of the final build goes up to E333, 170 vehicles E164-E333

4964 has now gone to Walsall for repaint

Isn't the E500 the three-axle variant?

Yes, not my photo but they look like this