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Title: Bus station problems
Post by: Trident 4194 on February 01, 2015, 01:42:02 PM
Halesowen seems to have quite a few problems regarding buses and timetable. For example the nx 4H is due out at :03 past the hour, but likes to hog the stand. So it usually goes in about 57 past. Then the 99 comes behind at 58 past, and quite often the 99 will not go to the stand in front, but will just park alongside and let the passengers walk in front of the 4H to get to the 99. Surely this isn't safe.
Also the stand where the 002,004,142 share can get rather busy, again if an 004 is running slightly early getting into halesowen at 56 past or 26 past, then the 142 will come along, sometimes running slightly late, but then has to wait for the 004 to pull off, which then usually comes back round and waits again for a bit. Surely these should have different stands.
Title: Re: Bus station problems
Post by: karl724223 on February 01, 2015, 03:00:38 PM
Merry hill bus station to old not big enough unfit for purpose
Title: Re: Bus station problems
Post by: the trainbasher on February 01, 2015, 03:11:45 PM
What should be done with merry hill is take half of the car park outside Maplin away and extend the bus station...Although we'd probably end up with a Stourbridge style monstrositys!
Title: Re: Bus station problems
Post by: Trident 4194 on February 01, 2015, 03:18:09 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on February 01, 2015, 03:11:45 PM
What should be done with merry hill is take half of the car park outside Maplin away and extend the bus station...Although we'd probably end up with a Stourbridge style monstrositys!

I like stourbridge bus station, certainly better than Dudley.
Title: Re: Bus station problems
Post by: danny on February 01, 2015, 03:26:33 PM
Any ideas on how Cradley heath is coming along guys, not been past their in a while.
Title: Re: Bus station problems
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on February 01, 2015, 04:24:48 PM
Quote from: danny on February 01, 2015, 03:26:33 PM
Any ideas on how Cradley heath is coming along guys, not been past their in a while.

I think the tarmac is in, but precious little sign of anything else happening.
Title: Re: Bus station problems
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on February 01, 2015, 04:26:43 PM
Quote from: karl724223 on February 01, 2015, 03:00:38 PM
Merry hill bus station to old not big enough unfit for purpose

Very true Karl, i would have thought they would have used the chance when they had it to knock down that large store and car park at the top and make that into a proper bus station.
Title: Re: Bus station problems
Post by: karl724223 on February 01, 2015, 04:38:26 PM
Store sold again and it's to far for passengers to walk up and down hill
Title: Re: Bus station problems
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on February 01, 2015, 05:07:16 PM
Quote from: karl724223 on February 01, 2015, 04:38:26 PM
Store sold again and it's to far for passengers to walk up and down hill

Take it that is Merry Hill owners view point, strange that if you travel to Birmingham, Dudley & Stourbridge, you have to walk in some cases a fair distance to the shops. 
Title: Re: Bus station problems
Post by: domino.99 on February 01, 2015, 07:16:04 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on February 01, 2015, 05:07:16 PM
Quote from: karl724223 on February 01, 2015, 04:38:26 PM
Store sold again and it's to far for passengers to walk up and down hill

Take it that is Merry Hill owners view point, strange that if you travel to Birmingham, Dudley & Stourbridge, you have to walk in some cases a fair distance to the shops.

Lets look at the merry hill owners view point again. By allowing a new bus station to be built in merry hill centre the following things will need to happen. The old/current bus station would need to be demolished, the new bus station would need to be built, the extra area for the new bus station would need to be created, the front of merry hill right by the bus station will need to be partly blocked off so users would not be affected. all these things take time, and if W'ton and s'bridge are anything to go by they will take around a year to a year and half.

Many days of the week, I think we can all agree merry hill gets congested. So by having buses parking up and pulling up at the side of fairly narrow streets anyway you can imagine the amount of congestion, Now some of you may use the reason ''use the boulevard as the area for the buses to park up and use''. This would be very silly, this is because the high amount of cars using this road to avoid the main traffic for the car parks would be forced to use times square avenue again causing high congestion.

BAD FOR BUSINESS

So as Merry hill owners Intu are in controll of the land they have to look from a business POV and it just dosen't benefit Merry Hill at all.

Overall there is no plausible way for merry hill to have a new bus station created with out the surrounding area and customers being at a disadvantage.

Not sure if i made full sense but feel free to point out anything I may have missed or your opinion. :)
Title: Re: Bus station problems
Post by: karl724223 on February 01, 2015, 08:18:29 PM
Under the plans for a new bus station that was going ahead the car park by the petrol station was going to be the new bus station the current bus station would have stopped open while the new one was built upon completion new one opens old one shuts old bus station was going to be put back to a car park
Title: Re: Bus station problems
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on February 01, 2015, 08:26:05 PM
Quote from: NXDom on February 01, 2015, 07:16:04 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on February 01, 2015, 05:07:16 PM
Quote from: karl724223 on February 01, 2015, 04:38:26 PM
Store sold again and it's to far for passengers to walk up and down hill

Take it that is Merry Hill owners view point, strange that if you travel to Birmingham, Dudley & Stourbridge, you have to walk in some cases a fair distance to the shops.

Lets look at the merry hill owners view point again. By allowing a new bus station to be built in merry hill centre the following things will need to happen. The old/current bus station would need to be demolished, the new bus station would need to be built, the extra area for the new bus station would need to be created, the front of merry hill right by the bus station will need to be partly blocked off so users would not be affected. all these things take time, and if W'ton and s'bridge are anything to go by they will take around a year to a year and half.

Many days of the week, I think we can all agree merry hill gets congested. So by having buses parking up and pulling up at the side of fairly narrow streets anyway you can imagine the amount of congestion, Now some of you may use the reason ''use the boulevard as the area for the buses to park up and use''. This would be very silly, this is because the high amount of cars using this road to avoid the main traffic for the car parks would be forced to use times square avenue again causing high congestion.

BAD FOR BUSINESS

So as Merry hill owners Intu are in controll of the land they have to look from a business POV and it just dosen't benefit Merry Hill at all.

Overall there is no plausible way for merry hill to have a new bus station created with out the surrounding area and customers being at a disadvantage.

Not sure if i made full sense but feel free to point out anything I may have missed or your opinion. :)

Well eventually you will get the situation where the old bus station will be deemed unsafe to use, then you will have to have bus stops here, there and everywhere while it is sorted out. That is going to inconvenience people.

In my opinion, the bus station should be sorted out now, before it has to be done, the owners of Merry Hill are being rather short sighted.
Title: Re: Bus station problems
Post by: Westy on February 01, 2015, 08:44:30 PM
How come there always seems to be an issue with Walsall St Pauls every few weeks, with a stand or two being unavailable?
Title: Re: Bus station problems
Post by: Bob on February 01, 2015, 08:44:49 PM
Dudley bus station has the most disgusting rank public toilets I have ever seen. ...surprisingly theyre not operated by centro
Title: Re: Bus station problems
Post by: karl724223 on February 01, 2015, 08:47:49 PM
Dudley has had problems with them toilets for years
Title: Re: Bus station problems
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on February 01, 2015, 08:54:24 PM
Quote from: Bob on February 01, 2015, 08:44:49 PM
Dudley bus station has the most disgusting rank public toilets I have ever seen. ...surprisingly theyre not operated by centro

Are they operated by the council then?
Title: Re: Bus station problems
Post by: Alex on February 01, 2015, 09:00:44 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on February 01, 2015, 08:54:24 PM
Quote from: Bob on February 01, 2015, 08:44:49 PM
Dudley bus station has the most disgusting rank public toilets I have ever seen. ...surprisingly theyre not operated by centro

Are they operated by the council then?

If they are, then i am never trusting Sandwell Council with anything, those toilets might as well be ran by the chavs who use them, actually they'd probably clean them more often than current..
Title: Re: Bus station problems
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on February 01, 2015, 09:03:34 PM
Quote from: ARJ2901 on February 01, 2015, 09:00:44 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on February 01, 2015, 08:54:24 PM
Quote from: Bob on February 01, 2015, 08:44:49 PM
Dudley bus station has the most disgusting rank public toilets I have ever seen. ...surprisingly theyre not operated by centro

Are they operated by the council then?

If they are, then i am never trusting Sandwell Council with anything, those toilets might as well be ran by the chavs who use them, actually they'd probably clean them more often than current..

Dudley council surely!
Title: Re: Bus station problems
Post by: the trainbasher on February 01, 2015, 09:10:15 PM
You want dodgy toilets I'll take your Dudley nomination and raise you a first bristol bus station
Title: Re: Bus station problems
Post by: notepanel on February 01, 2015, 10:49:45 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on February 01, 2015, 09:10:15 PM
You want dodgy toilets I'll take your Dudley nomination and raise you a first bristol bus station

What's up with Bristols toilets?! I've used them several times, and as public toilets go found them alright!

And to answer a post mentioned earlier, I believe all Centro bus station toilets are maintained by the local council.
Title: Re: Bus station problems
Post by: Bob on February 02, 2015, 12:00:13 PM
Theyre run by dudley mbc who ought to hang their heads in shame for providing such a dreadful facility. They closed down perfectly clean attended ones in flood street to keep these rank s##tholes running!  I dont see the point in having them there are spotless new attended facilities a one min walk away in castle Street run by the council.  And prior to this there were clean ones in the market place again a couple of hundred yards
Title: Re: Bus station problems
Post by: the trainbasher on February 02, 2015, 12:21:47 PM
@Bob have you never heard of council cutbacks. I should know what they're like!!
Title: Re: Bus station problems
Post by: Bob on February 02, 2015, 03:33:44 PM
Yes of course I know what council cutbacks are, but that doesn't really apply here as Dudley have just built a brand new ( award winning too) set of conveniences so theyre not cutting back in this instance.  Why not just shut the bus station loos now the new ones are open and with the money saved reopen another better block in town?
Title: Re: Bus station problems
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on March 02, 2015, 10:37:44 PM
Quote from: Matt on March 02, 2015, 09:24:49 PM
Here's an idea let's have music playing in the bus stations like WYMetro have in West Yorkshire. They  already have the facility to do this with speakers installed in bus stations for the announcements.

Can you see Centro paying for the PRS licences?
Title: Re: Bus station problems
Post by: Bryan on March 03, 2015, 09:01:01 AM
Quote from: Matt on March 02, 2015, 09:24:49 PM
Here's an idea let's have music playing in the bus stations like WYMetro have in West Yorkshire. They  already have the facility to do this with speakers installed in bus stations for the announcements.

Not an idea that would get the thumbs up from me.

Everyone likes different music and it can be very annoying. I remember a supermarket once playing music and it encouraged me to get out asap. If people want to hear music all they have to do is listen to their iPad.
Title: Re: Bus station problems
Post by: andy on March 03, 2015, 10:40:17 AM
Quote from: Bryan on March 03, 2015, 09:01:01 AM
Quote from: Matt on March 02, 2015, 09:24:49 PM
Here's an idea let's have music playing in the bus stations like WYMetro have in West Yorkshire. They  already have the facility to do this with speakers installed in bus stations for the announcements.

Not an idea that would get the thumbs up from me.

Everyone likes different music and it can be very annoying. I remember a supermarket once playing music and it encouraged me to get out asap. If people want to hear music all they have to do is listen to their iPad.

Does anybody remember the classical music that used to play on loop in the Bull Ring Bus Station for a few years, circa Midland Express mid to late 80's time? The tune has stuck with me for years....
Title: Re: Bus station problems
Post by: Ben on March 07, 2015, 11:16:20 PM
Still think that compared to some bus stations, Pool Meadow is good. Don't entirely agree with the stand allocations but otherwise the staff and environment are excellent.


Up here in the north the best one seems to be Chorley (only seen it while passing through on the 570 coach, however).

Preston bus station will be refurbished soon, its not as bad as some would claim it to be. Glad its not being demolished, as the architecture is iconic.

Bolton bus station is just horrid, as is Blackpool Talbot Road.
Manchester Victoria is fairly decent.


Title: Re: Bus station problems
Post by: the trainbasher on March 11, 2015, 06:02:26 PM
@Matt I've seen it show all 9s to Stourbridge and city There!
Title: Re: Bus station problems
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on March 11, 2015, 06:37:00 PM
Just for a few days classical music was played at Walsall bus station - 'One fine day' from Madame Butterfly was amongst them.
As for bus station loos, Uttoxeter sets a high standard hard to beat!
Title: Re: Bus station problems
Post by: Tara4352 on March 11, 2015, 09:25:37 PM
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on March 11, 2015, 06:37:00 PM
Just for a few days classical music was played at Walsall bus station - 'One fine day' from Madame Butterfly was amongst them.
As for bus station loos, Uttoxeter sets a high standard hard to beat!
Heard it too
Title: Re: Bus station problems
Post by: Westy on April 07, 2015, 09:49:28 PM
Wednesbury Bus Station clocks are still on GMT over a week after change to BST!
Title: Re: Bus station problems
Post by: Trident 4194 on April 11, 2015, 01:18:15 PM
Halesowen bus station at 30 past and 00 past the hour is a nightmare
Title: Re: Bus station problems
Post by: JoNi on May 21, 2015, 05:02:18 PM
Getting the leaflet holders is the easy bit, keeping it filled is the hard bit.
As regards RTI which 6 do you want!
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/JZxWk0
Title: Re: Bus station problems
Post by: Liverpool Street on May 22, 2015, 10:33:28 AM
Quote from: JoNi on May 21, 2015, 05:02:18 PM
Getting the leaflet holders is the easy bit, keeping it filled is the head bit.
As regards RTI which 6 do you want!
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/JZxWk0


How busy is those routes to require that many duplicates?!

(Before you reply to this have a word with your funny bone)
Title: Re: Bus station problems
Post by: JoNi on May 23, 2015, 08:08:32 AM
It was Monday morning and the system runs on Windows XP(!)
(seen when VIX technicians rebooted one)