Anybody seen Centrals new deckers, any idea what services they will be used on or will they simply replace the 2 Olympians on school/contract/28E workings.
Quote from: Lukeee on May 24, 2012, 09:50:42 PM
Anybody seen Centrals new deckers, any idea what services they will be used on or will they simply replace the 2 Olympians on school/contract/28E workings.
It'd make sense to just replace them. I imagine that these will be compliant with the Euro 2 situation.
They're on ebay at the moment
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dennis-Trident-SLF-Decker-Bus-Coach-V-Reg-1999-80-Seats-Single-Door-/130702028012?pt=UK_Minibuses_Buses_Coaches&hash=item1e6e72acec
Quote from: Michael on May 24, 2012, 10:04:12 PM
Quote from: Lukeee on May 24, 2012, 09:50:42 PM
Anybody seen Centrals new deckers, any idea what services they will be used on or will they simply replace the 2 Olympians on school/contract/28E workings.
It'd make sense to just replace them. I imagine that these will be compliant with the Euro 2 situation.
Central Buses dont operate into B'ham no more its NXWM, Blue Diamond, Black Diamond, VIP, and the other operators in the middle
Quote from: BC driver on May 28, 2012, 03:50:08 PM
They're on ebay at the moment
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dennis-Trident-SLF-Decker-Bus-Coach-V-Reg-1999-80-Seats-Single-Door-/130702028012?pt=UK_Minibuses_Buses_Coaches&hash=item1e6e72acec
Theres also 3 tamworth Bus & Coach buses on there (2 coaches & VOLVO B6LE SLF EAST LANCS SPRYTE
I have seen there contracts/school services enter the city quite often.
Might Central Buses be starting a buying and selling business then?
Quote from: Michael on May 28, 2012, 08:28:37 PM
Might Central Buses be starting a buying and selling business then?
They have done a little dealing in the past, but I think the fuel consumption of the elderly tridents might have put them off operating them. They told me they are nice buses apart from a habit of drinking a lot of diesel
We're lucky to get 5.5 out of our two.
Quote from: Jack Grove on May 28, 2012, 09:02:05 PM
We're lucky to get 5.5 out of our two.
With buses, what's a decent MPG to get out of a low floor double decker. Any idea on what the newer Enviro400s are producing, as well as new vehicles such as the Eclipses compared to B10Ls?
enviro 400 approx 6.5 dependent on garage and route
volvo b6 apross 8 dependent on garage and route
mercedes approx 4.5 dependent on garage and route
That is quite bad MPG! Especially when you consider how empty most daytime services are with just the odd OAP!
I would quite like Central to keep the Olympians but surely they get worse MPG than the Trident would?
Quote from: BU07 LGO on May 31, 2012, 06:26:14 PM
That is quite bad MPG! Especially when you consider how empty most daytime services are with just the odd OAP!
I would quite like Central to keep the Olympians but surely they get worse MPG than the Trident would?
I doubt it. The Volvo Olympian is regarded as a good bus - probably the best non low floor DD from the 1990s. I think it's a pity that they have been relatively rare in the West Midlands - Central Buses' Olympians are excellent.
Having seen the pics of the new enviros for Central that Tony has uploaded today, does anyone know where these will be used. Will they be used to withdraw older darts or are they looking to expand?
They will replace older Dennis Darts (V944 DNB, V946 DNB, V651 HEC and X713 CCA)
X713 CCA is expected to be the first low floor vehicle to be withdrawn from service.
The long wheel base Enviro 200 is registered as BU12 LJO.
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Quote from: 966 on June 27, 2012, 11:17:34 PM
Having seen the pics of the new enviros for Central that Tony has uploaded today, does anyone know where these will be used. Will they be used to withdraw older darts or are they looking to expand?
74A, 78, 88 & 459
Seen a new dart parked on the Mecca carpark at the circle earlier today?
BU12 LJL being used as a staff bus for the day!
Was tempted to go over to it and get some pictures but would have been embarrassed if there was people on it haha, glad i never now!
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Fleetchanges 19/07/12
X713 CCA Withdrawn from service
V946 DNB Withdrawn from service
V651 HEC Withdrawn from service
BU12 LJN, LJO Now in service. BU12 LJL is to enter service tomorrow on either the 459 or the 74A
Kind Regards,
Thomas Davies
Lets hope Arriva do not try to get them
X713 CCA, V944 DNB and V946 DNB have been Sold to Ring and Ride/WMSNT
Regards
BU12LJN was on the 74A today
MX56 HYA was out on the 28E yesterday. I do like the updated livery on it a lot better on the Dart's.
V327 KGW.
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Central buses are a bit optimistic if they think they can fill a Trident :p
Haha only joking but Tom i saw one of the new Enviro's yesterday BU12 LJN i think? not 100% and the LED running light was broken on the one side already?
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Fleet Additions
Aquired from Optare 10/12.
YJ59 PKA Optare Solo M810SL B20F
YJ59 PKC Optare Solo M810SL B20F
YJ59 PKD Optare Solo M810SL B20F
YJ59 PKE Optare Solo M810SL B20F
YJ59 PKC out on the 88 today looking like a left over from Pete's Travel
http://www.wmbusphotos.com/Central/YJ59PKC.html
Quote from: Thomas Davies on October 11, 2012, 11:40:52 AM
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Fleet Additions
Aquired from Optare 10/12.
YJ59 PKA Optare Solo M810SL B20F
YJ59 PKC Optare Solo M810SL B20F
YJ59 PKD Optare Solo M810SL B20F
YJ59 PKE Optare Solo M810SL B20F
Are you sure they're not B24F then??? ;)
What's happening with the new Trident's. Are these going to enter service or sold on again,like the V-MEV ones. Can't wait to see them if they stay
Quote from: John-s-91 on October 14, 2012, 10:49:56 PM
What's happening with the new Trident's. Are these going to enter service or sold on again,like the V-MEV ones. Can't wait to see them if they stay
Central Buses do not have any Tridents
Quote from: Tony on October 15, 2012, 07:33:08 AM
Quote from: John-s-91 on October 14, 2012, 10:49:56 PM
What's happening with the new Trident's. Are these going to enter service or sold on again,like the V-MEV ones. Can't wait to see them if they stay
Central Buses do not have any Tridents
What's the one that Thomas Davies has posted on this thread then (V327 KGW). Have they sold it already
Quote from: John-s-91 on October 15, 2012, 08:39:35 AM
Quote from: Tony on October 15, 2012, 07:33:08 AM
Quote from: John-s-91 on October 14, 2012, 10:49:56 PM
What's happening with the new Trident's. Are these going to enter service or sold on again,like the V-MEV ones. Can't wait to see them if they stay
Central Buses do not have any Tridents
What's the one that Thomas Davies has posted on this thread then (V327 KGW). Have they sold it already
It wasn't theirs to sell it was one of the Abellio/Green Bus ones that they were looking at
YJ59 PKE, back from the paint shop looking great. Just needs the yellow band now!
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I've just seen one too driving down the Aldridge Rd heading to the garage, finished. Don't know if it was this one. (The one I saw was with Optare Solo on the display). Looks very good!!!!
Looks brand new.... how old are these now?
Quote from: nx4737 on October 18, 2012, 04:13:58 PM
Looks brand new.... how old are these now?
They are 2 and a half years old.
KV51 KZL on the 61 today in Yellow (Looking likes Petes Travel!!)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8179176091/
Definitely looks like Pete's travel and a similar shot would have been taken location etc when they used to run the 123 service from Perry Barr, made me look twice lol
RML2411 is due to operate the 88 service between Streetly, Hardwick Arms and Erdington on Thursday 27th December and Friday 28th December. For times see www.centralbuses.com - a Saturday timetable will be in operation on both of these days.
Central Buses should have their Routemaster out on the 88 today and tomorrow
Quote from: Tony on December 27, 2012, 10:21:26 AM
Central Buses should have their Routemaster out on the 88 today and tomorrow
Out today
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8314130881
I have now now done the full refresh on all the Central Buses fleet
http://wmbusphotos.com/Central/fleetlist.html
I believe I have a photo of every vehicle ever operated by them. All vehicle histories have been put on, what I am missing is 8 of the body numbers if anyone can help?
Wonder how long it'll be before JJD 411D gets Centrads ;D
Quote from: Tony on December 27, 2012, 10:26:28 PM
I have now now done the full refresh on all the Central Buses fleet
http://wmbusphotos.com/Central/fleetlist.html
I believe I have a photo of every vehicle ever operated by them. All vehicle histories have been put on, what I am missing is 8 of the body numbers if anyone can help?
Tony
I also have:-
G349GCK Dn Dt 8.5SDL Dp B??F acq 9/03, sold 2/04
AHZ5196 MB 709D RB B24F acq 12/04 sold ? (J218KTT)
N356OBC MB 709D Ar B27F acq ? sold 1/05
S105LBL Oe So M850 Oe N30F acq 1/09 sold `10
Alan
N356 OBC was only on hire for a fortnight from Stafford Bus Centre
Found my photo of S105LBL, so another one down!
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Are three buses needed for the 19/74A if they interwork at West Bromwich or just the two.
It is 3 on that circuit at least
one of the cumfy bus solos was on Walsall route 74 last week. first time ive seen one of those on there!!
KV51 KZL now in Central Buses fleet livery. Seen it driving down Thornbridge Ave.
Quote from: John on March 08, 2013, 05:10:41 PM
KV51 KZL now in Central Buses fleet livery. Seen it driving down Thornbridge Ave.
Here is said bus
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8541249393
With central buses taking on the 82, will they be taking delivery of bigger buses, as the mercs currently on the route seem to fill up very quickly?
Use the RM would look good only joking though.
As has been mentioned a few times, Central seemingly have E200s on order. Perhaps these are longer wheelbase, like BU12 LJO is, and Central have been planning this for a while.
Quote from: JackC on March 09, 2013, 10:05:41 PM
As has been mentioned a few times, Central seemingly have E200s on order. Perhaps these are longer wheelbase, like BU12 LJO is, and Central have been planning this for a while.
That appears to actually relate to the last three including BU12 LJO
Central buses do
NOT have any new buses on order at the moment
wonder what they will have for the 82 the envrios they already have ??
As a guess the 2 darts with the largest
seating will be on the 82 & the solos
that r on 61's on the S2/3 but I could be
wrong
Optare demonstrator YJ12NBX is on the 19/74A today.
Quote from: busfan2847 on December 28, 2012, 09:51:22 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 27, 2012, 10:26:28 PM
I have now now done the full refresh on all the Central Buses fleet
http://wmbusphotos.com/Central/fleetlist.html
I believe I have a photo of every vehicle ever operated by them. All vehicle histories have been put on, what I am missing is 8 of the body numbers if anyone can help?
Tony
I also have:-
G349GCK Dn Dt 8.5SDL Dp B??F acq 9/03, sold 2/04
AHZ5196 MB 709D RB B24F acq 12/04 sold ? (J218KTT)
N356OBC MB 709D Ar B27F acq ? sold 1/05
S105LBL Oe So M850 Oe N30F acq 1/09 sold `10
Alan
I have now found my photo of N356 OBC, so another off the list
I don't have a photo of G349GCK with Central, but I have one of it with BMT which I will find.
For some reason I don't seem to be able to find a photo of AHZ 5196, I know I took one, it was fleetnumber 1011, can anybody help to complete the set of this operator?
Just been announced that Central Buses are pulling off the 28 from Sunday 9th June.
Quote from: John on March 24, 2013, 12:42:51 PM
Just been announced that Central Buses are pulling off the 28 from Sunday 9th June.
Which will no doubt free up a couple of buses for their new S2 and S3 services.
Not sure if this is old news but 'MX56 HYA' is now in the new Central Buses Fleet livery, seen it Friday evening turning into the depot
Been like it for donkeys I believe
Central buses service changes from 9th June,
82 / S2 & S3 are cancelled before they even started???
PD1021409/51 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Walsall Bus Station and Kingstanding given service number 76 effective from 09-Jun-2013.
PD1021409/58 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Solihull Railway Station and Coventry given service number 82 effective from 09-Jun-2013.
PD1021409/59 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Solihull, Poplar Road and Dorridge (S2)/Hockley Heath (S3) given service number S2/S3 effective from 09-Jun-2013.
The 82, S2/S3 were registered as a commercial operation as the loading information on the tenders issued by Centro in February suggested that they were commercially viable. The incumbent operator has since decided that they would not deregister their existing service (which is their right to do so having built up the patronage over the last couple of years) and they will operate these journeys instead on a commercial basis. The 76 has been cancelled due to NX extending one of their services from Kingstanding to Walsall along the 76 route as part of the North Birmingham Review, thus the Centro contract is no longer required.
Quote from: gac_uk on April 17, 2013, 09:10:16 AM
The 82, S2/S3 were registered as a commercial operation as the loading information on the tenders issued by Centro in February suggested that they were commercially viable. The incumbent operator has since decided that they would not deregister their existing service (which is their right to do so having built up the patronage over the last couple of years) and they will operate these journeys instead on a commercial basis. The 76 has been cancelled due to NX extending one of their services from Kingstanding to Walsall along the 76 route as part of the North Birmingham Review, thus the Centro contract is no longer required.
Thanks for the explanation Geoff,
So Diamond have got some fight in them then......
Quote from: Winston on April 17, 2013, 09:59:10 AM
Quote from: gac_uk on April 17, 2013, 09:10:16 AM
The 82, S2/S3 were registered as a commercial operation as the loading information on the tenders issued by Centro in February suggested that they were commercially viable. The incumbent operator has since decided that they would not deregister their existing service (which is their right to do so having built up the patronage over the last couple of years) and they will operate these journeys instead on a commercial basis. The 76 has been cancelled due to NX extending one of their services from Kingstanding to Walsall along the 76 route as part of the North Birmingham Review, thus the Centro contract is no longer required.
Thanks for the explanation Geoff,
So Diamond have got some fight in them then......
Fair play to diamond-these services are a high class operation in terms of vehicle quality-perhaps timetabling does need to be looked at.
Wins ton I don't think You can assume Diamond have got any fight in them just because they haven't cancelled the signature network. It would have been interesting to see if they would have competed with Central Buses or just packed up with their tail between their legs after a few weeks/months
Quote from: Steveminor on April 17, 2013, 09:21:17 PM
Wins ton I don't think You can assume Diamond have got any fight in them just because they haven't cancelled the signature network. It would have been interesting to see if they would have competed with Central Buses or just packed up with their tail between their legs after a few weeks/months
Steve,
Fair point, but they have blocked Central Buses from commencing commercial journeys; whether it would have been the same outcome had it been NX or Arriva launching on there is debateable???
It will be interesting to see how/if at all Diamond respond to competition from NXWM's new 936 service
I've used the 82 quite a lot the buses are superb citaro's best in the fleet, drivers very friendly and never been late once. Spot on.
Quote from: Ash on April 17, 2013, 09:41:41 PM
I've used the 82 quite a lot the buses are superb citaro's best in the fleet, drivers very friendly and never been late once. Spot on.
The 82 does seem to do very well it is always busy although often with non-fare paying passengers
Quote from: Peter123 on April 18, 2013, 03:13:24 PM
Quote from: Ash on April 17, 2013, 09:41:41 PM
I've used the 82 quite a lot the buses are superb citaro's best in the fleet, drivers very friendly and never been late once. Spot on.
The 82 does seem to do very well it is always busy although often with non-fare paying passengers
Yeah very true, most passengers either have a concessionary pass or an n bus/network ticket. Not sure how much a bus company can make out of solely having concessionary/nbus/network pass holders.
Central buses are starting a new 92 from Lichfield to Sutton from 29th April.
http://www.staffordshire.gov.uk/transport/publictransport/buses/docs/busservicechangesapril13updated.pdf
Staffordshire C.C's publicity is slightly premature as the registration is still pending approval from the Traffic Commissioner. Interestingly the cost to change the bus stop flag's and roadside timetables between Sutton Coldfield and Blake Street for this service is around £2000 (and same again if the service doesn't work in six months time)..I noted the thread recently on this forum regarding lack of commercial innovation from small bus operators; perhaps this could be a reason why?
Well mate if you look at other areas outside the West Midlands there is no charge for timetables & stop flags, there is also a lot more innovation of service, so yeah I deffinately think this could be the reason. As I posted earlier when NX changed the 14 to 14A AMPM were "forced" to change along with them (when Centro just took the 14A off stop plates without asking what AMPM were doing regarding numbering). This effectively ended our plans to innovate the service 14A as it would have been TOO expensive to not only pay for the stops on the extension but also every other stop along the route.
It's a shame really as it would have provided an exciting new link for a LOT of people " but hey Centro isn't in it for the "travelling" public are they
Quote from: Steveminor on April 19, 2013, 06:51:38 AM
Well mate if you look at other areas outside the West Midlands there is no charge for timetables & stop flags, there is also a lot more innovation of service, so yeah I deffinately think this could be the reason. As I posted earlier when NX changed the 14 to 14A AMPM were "forced" to change along with them (when Centro just took the 14A off stop plates without asking what AMPM were doing regarding numbering). This effectively ended our plans to innovate the service 14A as it would have been TOO expensive to not only pay for the stops on the extension but also every other stop along the route.
It's a shame really as it would have provided an exciting new link for a LOT of people " but hey Centro isn't in it for the "travelling" public are they
So you worked for AMPM then? Thoughts on the 246?
246 is a busy route & took plenty of money for AMPM trouble was the timings weren't quite right causing the buses to run late too often. When we tried to alter the timings we couldn't get the departure slots we wanted from the bus stations without going on a stand too far away from NXWM, also 800 was the only bus with(we felt )sufficient power for the Dudley regions hills & that bus as you know was for sale and ended up with Hansons. Then when one of the drivers was attacked during the Dudley EDF march we had staffing issues with drivers refusing to go anywhere near Dudley. Put it all together & you're completely wasting your time trying to run it, so we cancelled a perfectly reasonable service. Revenue wise (cash & concessions) it was on a par with the 14 but without the extra insurance cost, so was more profitable.
Quote from: Steveminor on April 20, 2013, 07:12:33 AM
246 is a busy route & took plenty of money for AMPM trouble was the timings weren't quite right causing the buses to run late too often. When we tried to alter the timings we couldn't get the departure slots we wanted from the bus stations without going on a stand too far away from NXWM, also 800 was the only bus with(we felt )sufficient power for the Dudley regions hills & that bus as you know was for sale and ended up with Hansons. Then when one of the drivers was attacked during the Dudley EDF march we had staffing issues with drivers refusing to go anywhere near Dudley. Put it all together & you're completely wasting your time trying to run it, so we cancelled a perfectly reasonable service. Revenue wise (cash & concessions) it was on a par with the 14 but without the extra insurance cost, so was more profitable.
What sort of company is at the mercy of its staff as to where they will operate?
Quote from: richie on April 21, 2013, 05:52:04 AM
Quote from: Steveminor on April 20, 2013, 07:12:33 AM
246 is a busy route & took plenty of money for AMPM trouble was the timings weren't quite right causing the buses to run late too often. When we tried to alter the timings we couldn't get the departure slots we wanted from the bus stations without going on a stand too far away from NXWM, also 800 was the only bus with(we felt )sufficient power for the Dudley regions hills & that bus as you know was for sale and ended up with Hansons. Then when one of the drivers was attacked during the Dudley EDF march we had staffing issues with drivers refusing to go anywhere near Dudley. Put it all together & you're completely wasting your time trying to run it, so we cancelled a perfectly reasonable service. Revenue wise (cash & concessions) it was on a par with the 14 but without the extra insurance cost, so was more profitable.
What sort of company is at the mercy of its staff as to where they will operate?
Also any incident during an EDF march wouldn't be a norm whilst driving in Dudley, I know where I've rather drive Dudley or Alum Rock....... no contest :o
Quote from: richie on April 21, 2013, 05:52:04 AM
Quote from: Steveminor on April 20, 2013, 07:12:33 AM
246 is a busy route & took plenty of money for AMPM trouble was the timings weren't quite right causing the buses to run late too often. When we tried to alter the timings we couldn't get the departure slots we wanted from the bus stations without going on a stand too far away from NXWM, also 800 was the only bus with(we felt )sufficient power for the Dudley regions hills & that bus as you know was for sale and ended up with Hansons. Then when one of the drivers was attacked during the Dudley EDF march we had staffing issues with drivers refusing to go anywhere near Dudley. Put it all together & you're completely wasting your time trying to run it, so we cancelled a perfectly reasonable service. Revenue wise (cash & concessions) it was on a par with the 14 but without the extra insurance cost, so was more profitable.
What sort of company is at the mercy of its staff as to where they will operate?
Perhaps a company that values the safety of its drivers maybe?? Steve would probably agree.....
I have removed a sting of comments from here as they have absolutely nothing to do with Central Buses - see heading, and I received several complaints about a complete town being called racist (my step-father currently lives in Tamworth so I am there regularly)
Well I did create a new thread hoping to that any posts wod go there rather than hijack this threa, however I won't apologise for what I have seen with my own eyes. Not everyone but a large proportion of racism & that is my one pet hate there can be no excuse or defense for it.
Back on topic I would love to have seen Central buses go head to head with Rotala on the Solihull network, it would have been interesting to see how loyal the passengers are to Rotala when a quality operator comes along. Before anyone complains I'm not suggesting Rotala aren't a quality operator just pointing out that Central buses are a very very good company.
PD1021409/60 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: SUTTON COLDFIELD, LOWER PARADE
Finish Point: LINCHFIELD BUS STATION
Via:
Service Number: 92
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 30-MAY-2013
Other Details: MERE GREEN, HILL HOOK, SHENSTONE
Demo Optare Versa YJ61JHF on route76 this morning
Central Buses have a new trident wonder
if this will be used on the new 92 service
or another service
Linchfield must be a typo for Lichfield
Quote from: Solo1 on May 21, 2013, 06:41:56 AM
Central Buses have a new trident wonder
if this will be used on the new 92 service
or another service
I would think more likely for schools, maybe as an increase to D/D workings, or to replace an Olympian.
It would be nice to see it on other services though!!
The Trident has been acquired for school work only, although it may cover local bus work on rare occasions
Good News ! Following passenger feedback, we have decided to reinstate our 28 service previously earmarked for withdrawal from 9th June. We will be extending our operating period throughout the afternoon aswell as introducing a Saturday service
That's more like it, an operator that's prepared to try and make a route work and not just give up! Better than Diamond just withdrawing everything...
Quote from: gac_uk on May 22, 2013, 03:44:47 AM
The Trident has been acquired for school work only, although it may cover local bus work on rare occasions
that was predictable, the proper question is "is it to replace one of the Volvos?" much rather one of those than an ex battered stagecoach trident!
RML2411 will be in service again next week, operating the 92 between Lichfield and Sutton Coldfield on Tuesday 28th May and Wednesday 29th May. The service is free of charge to all users before it officially starts on Thursday 30th.
Quote from: gac_uk on May 25, 2013, 05:51:05 AM
RML2411 will be in service again next week, operating the 92 between Lichfield and Sutton Coldfield on Tuesday 28th May and Wednesday 29th May. The service is free of charge to all users before it officially starts on Thursday 30th.
What a great idea to attract people to the route. even non bus users I would imagine would notice a routemaster rolling around there streets and get them asking what its doing!
When I rode from Burton to Lichfield a couple of weeks ago on a Midland Classic Scania there was a poster saying they would extend the route from Lichfield to Sutton every hour from this weekend. Are there now three operators from Sutton to Lichfield?
Quote from: Stevo on May 27, 2013, 05:34:18 PM
When I rode from Burton to Lichfield a couple of weeks ago on a Midland Classic Scania there was a poster saying they would extend the route from Lichfield to Sutton every hour from this weekend. Are there now three operators from Sutton to Lichfield?
Yes there is. Arriva 112, X12 and 92. I don't know if either the X12 or 92 are a different route from each other or the 112.
Gonna be on the first 9:10 departure out tomorrow ;)
A very wet Routemaster seen in Sutton earlier today
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8867462544/
Heres a pic after its 9:10 journey :)
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A 12-plate Enviro200 replaced a broken-down Dart on the 007 in Halesowen today. Strange seeing a Central Buses E200 in Halesowen
Finally caught a glimpse of the Central Buses Trident parked on Dyas Road this morning, still in London livery.
I don't think it was on the 28E as it was parked there for at least 15 minutes, the deckers are not used on there anymore
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/9345519042/
This trident does seem to make a common appearance on the 28E along with the darts not sure how much but seen it a couple of times on the service in the last couple of weeks.
Has it been painted into CB livery? I imagine it'll look very smart when it is.
Quote from: JackC on July 23, 2013, 01:50:26 AM
Has it been painted into CB livery? I imagine it'll look very smart when it is.
No, not yet. See my pic above. I guess it might get repainted in the summer holidays
It's going to Volant next month for a respray.
A few "Behind the scenes" photos
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The 2 Olympians are now withdrawn :(
Shame :( will there be another Trident to replace them
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Great photos there Tim, the new livery looks fantastic.
What's wrong with BU12 LJV? Also, are there any plans to convert the Trident to single door?
'X233 NNO' was on the 88A today. Passed it in the car on Chester Road.
Quote from: JackC on July 28, 2013, 11:44:34 PM
What's wrong with BU12 LJV? Also, are there any plans to convert the Trident to single door?
BU12 LJV was having panels changed for it's first MOT and I believe there are no plans for the Trident to have its second door removed
Central Buses posted on Facebook, their planning an open day on Sunday, 15th September, to celebrate 10 years ops. Event at Perry Barr Depot, Tamebridge Estate, off Aldridge Road. Details shortly.
PD1021409/39 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Sutton Coldfield, Lower Parade and Streetly, Queslett Island given service number 78 effective from 03-Sep-2013. To amend Route and Timetable.
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Afriad to admit but the livery looks quite awkward on the Trident
It looks like the Wessex Red livery
I Like it. Very smart as usual. Will lookm the part when finished, with logos and the yellow parts added ;D
The Trident was on the 92 yesterday.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/9652942479/
Quote from: John on September 03, 2013, 04:55:23 PM
The Trident was on the 92 yesterday.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/9652942479/
and again today, didnt get such a good picture though :-\ ::)
take it this is what it will always be on then do the school trip before /after
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 03, 2013, 06:14:48 PM
Quote from: John on September 03, 2013, 04:55:23 PM
The Trident was on the 92 yesterday.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/9652942479/
and again today, didnt get such a good picture though :-\ ::)
Thats alright Nathan. The 92 always used to have the longer Enviro200 on it before the Trident, and I did see it arrive in Sutton on Monday.
With the 2 Olympians leaving, I wonder if another Trident will come
Quote from: John on September 03, 2013, 09:41:06 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 03, 2013, 06:14:48 PM
Quote from: John on September 03, 2013, 04:55:23 PM
The Trident was on the 92 yesterday.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/9652942479/
and again today, didnt get such a good picture though :-\ ::)
Thats alright Nathan. The 92 always used to have the longer Enviro200 on it before the Trident, and I did see it arrive in Sutton on Monday.
With the 2 Olympians leaving, I wonder if another Trident will come
is the 92 PVR of 2
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 04, 2013, 06:01:32 PM
is the 92 PVR of 2
Pretty sure it is just 1, but I really don't know
But one day I did see the longer Enviro200 and a dart both on the 92, this might have been just a swap that day, or if a second bus comes on to let the driver have a lunch break, with the short layover times at both ends (Central Buses leaflet shows 2 minutes at both ends)
Quote from: John on September 04, 2013, 06:18:12 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 04, 2013, 06:01:32 PM
is the 92 PVR of 2
Pretty sure it is just 1, but I really don't know
But one day I did see the longer Enviro200 and a dart both on the 92, this might have been just a swap that day, or if a second bus comes on to let the driver have a lunch break, with the short layover times at both ends (Central Buses leaflet shows 2 minutes at both ends)
Ye, PVR of 1
Leaves Sutton at 10 past the hour arriving at lichfeild for 38minutes past and leaving lichfeild at twenty too :)
so were will the longer enviro be used now ? possibly the 78
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 04, 2013, 06:21:53 PM
so were will the longer enviro be used now ? possibly the 78
Not sure.
Before the 92 was introduced, it was usually found on the 78, but when the 92 came along, the long Enviro200 moved to that, leaving one of the longer Darts to work the 78
Quote from: John on September 04, 2013, 06:25:11 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 04, 2013, 06:21:53 PM
so were will the longer enviro be used now ? possibly the 78
Not sure.
Before the 92 was introduced, it was usually found on the 78, but when the 92 came along, the long Enviro200 moved to that, leaving one of the longer Darts to work the 78
I know its too long to work the 61, it possibly could get away with working the 88A so that leaves either the 757 or 78 I think ?
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 04, 2013, 06:30:20 PM
I know its too long to work the 61, it possibly could get away with working the 88A so that leaves either the 757 or 78 I think ?
Not sure about the route of the 88, but I have seen the Trident on there, so maybe
Bus allocations i usually see are -
19/74A - Small Enviro200s. Pretty sure they interwork in West Brom
61 - Solos
007 - Long Dart
92 - Trident (this may only be until schools are back), or Long Enviro400 or Dart
78 - Long Enviro200 or Dart
28, 88/A, 696 - Small Darts
757/777 - OmniCitys
739/740 I guess used to have the ex-Dublin Olympians, more than likely the Trident and a long Dart now
Quote from: John on September 04, 2013, 06:43:22 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 04, 2013, 06:30:20 PM
I know its too long to work the 61, it possibly could get away with working the 88A so that leaves either the 757 or 78 I think ?
Not sure about the route of the 88, but I have seen the Trident on there, so maybe
Bus allocations i usually see are -
19/74A - Small Enviro200s. Pretty sure they interwork in West Brom
61 - Solos
007 - Long Dart
92 - Trident (this may only be until schools are back), or Long Enviro400 or Dart
78 - Long Enviro200 or Dart
28, 88/A, 696 - Small Darts
757/777 - OmniCitys
739/740 I guess used to have the ex-Dublin Olympians, more than likely the Trident and a long Dart now
739/740 is that the school run , which starts at Perry Barr if not then why is there always a central buses parked up around 8ish at Perry Barr
Apologies for the 100001 question
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 04, 2013, 06:53:15 PM
739/740 is that the school run , which starts at Perry Barr if not then why is there always a central buses parked up around 8ish at Perry Barr
I guess so. The 739 starts from Perry Barr, Walsall Road at 8.05am
The 740 starts from Meadowside, Great Barr at 7.53am.
Quote from: John on September 04, 2013, 06:57:48 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 04, 2013, 06:53:15 PM
739/740 is that the school run , which starts at Perry Barr if not then why is there always a central buses parked up around 8ish at Perry Barr
I guess so. The 739 starts from Perry Barr, Walsall Road at 8.05am
The 740 starts from Meadowside, Great Barr at 7.53am.
Carn't be the school runs then ?, as I don't get the 56 till 8:05 and its there when the 56 races through Perry Barr
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 04, 2013, 07:07:22 PM
Carn't be the school runs then ?, as I don't get the 56 till 8:05 and its there when the 56 races through Perry Barr
An Olympian used to be parked in One Stop when I went through between 9 and 10am most times. Never sure why
Quote from: John on September 04, 2013, 07:12:23 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 04, 2013, 07:07:22 PM
Carn't be the school runs then ?, as I don't get the 56 till 8:05 and its there when the 56 races through Perry Barr
An Olympian used to be parked in One Stop when I went through between 9 and 10am most times. Never sure why
it happens to be a smaller dart now, everytime I go past theres never a driver in there ? thats why I though maybe it does a school run but I was wrong :P
Quote from: John on September 04, 2013, 07:12:23 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 04, 2013, 07:07:22 PM
Carn't be the school runs then ?, as I don't get the 56 till 8:05 and its there when the 56 races through Perry Barr
An Olympian used to be parked in One Stop when I went through between 9 and 10am most times. Never sure why
The Olympian used to be parked at One Stop doing driver reliefs for the 61 service.
The Trident will now be regularly used on the 92 as well as the 740 St Francis School Service.
Prior to Summer 2013, the Olympians were used on the AH3 / CH3 services that were operated on behalf of The Greenbus.
Noticed the Trident is being well used on the 88/88A, or have they got 2 because its been out on the 88/A all week
notice now their enviro 300 is there
probably used for driver reliefs these days
The E300 is out on the 28 today :D , but does seem the double is wasted on the 88/88A or have I missed the loadings somewere ?
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 24, 2013, 01:45:26 PM
Noticed the Trident is being well used on the 88/88A, or have they got 2 because its been out on the 88/A all week
No, only one Trident (X233 NNO)
Quote from: John on September 24, 2013, 05:22:58 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 24, 2013, 01:45:26 PM
Noticed the Trident is being well used on the 88/88A, or have they got 2 because its been out on the 88/A all week
No, only one Trident (X233 NNO)
So the 92 must be ran using a Smaller e200 or a dart as the longer E200 was on the 78 and the Double was elsewere on the 88
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 24, 2013, 05:35:42 PM
So the 92 must be ran using a Smaller e200 or a dart as the longer E200 was on the 78 and the Double was elsewere on the 88
I guess so. Or a Dart. I think the 92 and 78 interwork in Sutton as well
Quote from: John on September 24, 2013, 05:43:53 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 24, 2013, 05:35:42 PM
So the 92 must be ran using a Smaller e200 or a dart as the longer E200 was on the 78 and the Double was elsewere on the 88
I guess so. Or a Dart. I think the 92 and 78 interwork in Sutton as well
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How long has that been for ?
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 24, 2013, 08:12:15 PM
How long has that been for ?
I'm not sure Nathan. I guess since the 92 was introduced.
I'm not completely sure they interwork, but on one day, I did see the long Enviro200 on both routes
Quote from: John on September 24, 2013, 09:09:36 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 24, 2013, 08:12:15 PM
How long has that been for ?
I'm not sure Nathan. I guess since the 92 was introduced.
I'm not completely sure they interwork, but on one day, I did see the long Enviro200 on both routes
Something for me too look out for when Im next in Sutton :) Didnt think Central buses had interworks with other routes :-\
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 24, 2013, 09:24:03 PM
Quote from: John on September 24, 2013, 09:09:36 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 24, 2013, 08:12:15 PM
How long has that been for ?
I'm not sure Nathan. I guess since the 92 was introduced.
I'm not completely sure they interwork, but on one day, I did see the long Enviro200 on both routes
Think the 19 and 74 interwork
Something for me too look out for when Im next in Sutton :) Didnt think Central buses had interworks with other routes :-\
Quote from: Lukeee on September 24, 2013, 11:08:28 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 24, 2013, 09:24:03 PM
Quote from: John on September 24, 2013, 09:09:36 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 24, 2013, 08:12:15 PM
How long has that been for ?
I'm not sure Nathan. I guess since the 92 was introduced.
I'm not completely sure they interwork, but on one day, I did see the long Enviro200 on both routes
Think the 19 and 74 interwork
Something for me too look out for when Im next in Sutton :) Didnt think Central buses had interworks with other routes :-\
Think the 19 and 74 interwork
The 19 and 74A do interwork
27542 (E300) - 88A today
1 dart on the 92
1 E200 - 78
Weres the DD ? Unless its on the 61, 19/74A. Unless its the second bus on the 28
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 27, 2013, 12:46:14 PM
27542 (E300) - 88A today
1 dart on the 92
1 E200 - 78
Weres the DD ? Unless its on the 61, 19/74A. Unless its the second bus on the 28
really shouldnt be on 61 never seen one as goes under bridge at booth street and tight roads
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 27, 2013, 12:46:14 PM
27542 (E300) - 88A today
That must be its old Stagecoach Fleetnumber (SN04 EFM)
Quote from: vinh1000 on September 27, 2013, 06:29:06 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 27, 2013, 12:46:14 PM
27542 (E300) - 88A today
1 dart on the 92
1 E200 - 78
Weres the DD ? Unless its on the 61, 19/74A. Unless its the second bus on the 28
really shouldnt be on 61 never seen one as goes under bridge at booth street and tight roads
Is that the bridge just after Bearwood near the Industrial
Quote from: John on September 27, 2013, 06:34:04 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 27, 2013, 12:46:14 PM
27542 (E300) - 88A today
That must be its old Stagecoach Fleetnumber (SN04 EFM)
Thats the one
Dart's 'KL52 LZX' and 'KG52 VAA' both sold to Pennine in Skipton earlier this month
Central Buses are withdrawing the 92 from 1st December
What was one of the scania's in countylinks
livery doing in Sutton on Saturday as the 757
wasn't due unless it was a driver change or change
bus It had not in service on blinds
Quote from: Solo1 on November 04, 2013, 02:28:50 PM
What was one of the scania's in countylinks
livery doing in Sutton on Saturday as the 757
wasn't due unless it was a driver change or change
bus It had not in service on blinds
92 possibly ? or 78
Quote from: John on October 30, 2013, 10:27:50 PM
Central Buses are withdrawing the 92 from 1st December
They are operating their Routemaster on the last day of service
PD1021409/66 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Tamwrth, Corporation Street
Finish Point: Lichfield Bus Station
Via: Hopwas, Tamworth road
Service Number: X55
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 06-JAN-2014
Other Details: Monday to Saturday as per timetable.
Latest CB Fleet news : We're continuing to invest into 2014...two brand new 10.8 metre Alexander Dennis Enviro 200's are on order
Every half hour straight down the A51 I believe, missing out Whittington/Barracks. Could be very interesting, give Arriva a bit of a run for their money maybe, the 765/785 always seem pretty busy along here.
Last time this route saw competition (please correct me if I'm wrong) was the Pete's travel/county bus v arriva/ budget bus war. That war saw a big loss to arriva & a big win for Pete's travel. Let's hope history repeats itself.
Perhaps worth pointing out that back then there wasn't an hourly train service between the two
Quote from: andy on December 06, 2013, 07:58:41 PM
Are you serious? I wouldn't say it was much of a loss myself! Countybus just did the 5 minutes in front thing, hopefully this will be something more constructive.
The actual last serious competition was from Ken Miller, although it but wasn't much of an operation. There's never really been a quality competitor on there,
Think the times are in between Arriva's, i.e. 15 mins apart so not going down the 5 mins ahead route.
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Oh Thomas you tease.
E200? Any interior shots?
Lol, standard spec inside!
First Enviro is being prepared at the moment
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Is that your handy work, Tommy?
What job you got at CB?
Jack of all trades :-) And no, it's not my handy work! It is at Volant in Aldridge.
Final Enviro to arrive!
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(https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1018.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf308%2Fxixtomxix%2FIMG_6500_zps36e3268c.jpg&hash=edf28d4b70810bb8a2c77af972f3eeba1cf56be4) (http://s1018.photobucket.com/user/xixtomxix/media/IMG_6500_zps36e3268c.jpg.html)
(https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1018.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf308%2Fxixtomxix%2FIMG_6502_zpsb4f73bec.jpg&hash=f7150375299576e3d4d44040fbe3612c3a53296b) (http://s1018.photobucket.com/user/xixtomxix/media/IMG_6502_zpsb4f73bec.jpg.html)
Better keep the black on the rear bumper and silver headlights tom!
The silver light surrounds will go black but the black on the rear bumper will stay.
what length are they?
why was Central Buses operating on the 213/214 today?
Quote from: OH25 on December 26, 2013, 06:14:40 PM
why was Central Buses operating on the 213/214 today?
It was ran by The Green Bus, they loaned 2 darts from Central Buses, one for the 335 and 213/4 :)
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 26, 2013, 06:18:35 PM
Quote from: OH25 on December 26, 2013, 06:14:40 PM
why was Central Buses operating on the 213/214 today?
It was ran by The Green Bus, they loaned 2 darts from Central Buses, one for the 335 and 213/4 :)
oh ok thanks :)
Just seen a Central Buses Dart in the Asda Petrol Station, do they not refil in the garage ?
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 28, 2013, 08:41:11 AM
Just seen a Central Buses Dart in the Asda Petrol Station, do they not refil in the garage ?
Not all operators have their own fuel pumps. I used to see Green Buses fuelling up at the Texaco garage on Kingstanding Road frequently a while back. You do also see lots of other small operators also using petrol stations
Some of green bus alao use a petrol station
In Newtown
Quote from: John on December 28, 2013, 09:30:04 AM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 28, 2013, 08:41:11 AM
Just seen a Central Buses Dart in the Asda Petrol Station, do they not refil in the garage ?
Not all operators have their own fuel pumps. I used to see Green Buses fuelling up at the Texaco garage on Kingstanding Road frequently a while back. You do also see lots of other small operators also using petrol stations
Not the only operators to do this either. Banga Travel and Travel Express both use the Petrol Station Just off Dudley Rd/Birmingham Rd
re fuel, even if an operator has their own tank, it can sometimes be necessary to fill up elsewhere for many reasons. when i used to be on the coaches, sometimes we got a better deal using fuel cards than having fuel in the tank at depot. sometimes deliveries were day slots so if you were getting close to running out it may be necessary to fill up elsewhere. you also need to have funds available before delivery, and you need to buy a decent amount to get a good deal.
Green Bus and VIP all use Murco petrol station opposite where I live on New John Street West using fuel cards
Midland Rider used public fueling stations regularly.
For obvious reasons of course.
Quote from: Solo1 on December 28, 2013, 12:18:33 PM
Some of green bus alao use a petrol station
In Newtown
Theres two in Newtown they use, think both are Murco stations. Central Buses also fill up there regularly.
At one point, going back quite a few years, I saw several green & yellow Choice Travel using the vehicle wash at the Spar depot in Willenhall one day.
(Did ask internally, as I worked there but no one could tell me more! )
Did Choice's old Watery Lane premises have a vehicle wash or was it out of action for some reason!
this has probably been asked before about a bus being parked there but why was there an ALX400 parked up in West Brom bus station today?
Quote from: OH25 on January 03, 2014, 02:37:25 PM
this has probably been asked before about a bus being parked there but why was there an ALX400 parked up in West Brom bus station today?
It's used for driver reliefs during the daytime
Quote from: OH25 on January 03, 2014, 02:37:25 PM
this has probably been asked before about a bus being parked there but why was there an ALX400 parked up in West Brom bus station today?
X233 NNO - it arrived at 11:20. I was hoping it would get onto the 30 or 74A!
Quote from: gac_uk on January 03, 2014, 02:48:32 PM
Quote from: OH25 on January 03, 2014, 02:37:25 PM
this has probably been asked before about a bus being parked there but why was there an ALX400 parked up in West Brom bus station today?
It's used for driver reliefs during the daytime
Are evening reliefs at garage then?
I don't think central buses run after approx. 5/6pm
I dare say the duties aren't that bad. Probably long but if you're finished by 6pm, who's going to complain?
So central buses have gone with branded buses for there new x55 service so they must be planning on staying on it whats everybody think a good idea or another failed attempt like service 92
Quote from: Ck on January 04, 2014, 09:24:33 PM
So central buses have gone with branded buses for there new x55 service so they must be planning on staying on it whats everybody think a good idea or another failed attempt like service 92
What has been branded for the X55 Ck?
Quote from: John on January 04, 2014, 09:54:40 PM
Quote from: Ck on January 04, 2014, 09:24:33 PM
So central buses have gone with branded buses for there new x55 service so they must be planning on staying on it whats everybody think a good idea or another failed attempt like service 92
What has been branded for the X55 Ck?
Their 2 new Envrio 200s. Pics on their Facebook page
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on January 04, 2014, 09:57:37 PM
Quote from: John on January 04, 2014, 09:54:40 PM
Quote from: Ck on January 04, 2014, 09:24:33 PM
So central buses have gone with branded buses for there new x55 service so they must be planning on staying on it whats everybody think a good idea or another failed attempt like service 92
What has been branded for the X55 Ck?
Their 2 new Envrio 200s. Pics on their Facebook page
Thanks Matt. They look brilliant
https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1525647_10151889189448733_1429057025_n.jpg
When did they arrive back from been sprayed Like rather good with the
branding
It's interesting looking at those pictures that Central Buses appear to be launching this route as an almost separate entity - Xpre55, rather than simply route branding a bus.
Whilst to an enthusiast it is obviously Central Buses, there appears to be very little (if any) mention of Central Buses on the vehicles, and there is even a dedicated Xpre55 website.
Quote from: notepanel on January 04, 2014, 10:59:31 PM
It's interesting looking at those pictures that Central Buses appear to be launching this route as an almost separate entity - Xpre55, rather than simply route branding a bus.
Whilst to an enthusiast it is obviously Central Buses, there appears to be very little (if any) mention of Central Buses on the vehicles, and there is even a dedicated Xpre55 website.
They have also branded the interior of the new vehicles as well as having a dedicated website: http://www.xpre55.co.uk/
here is the new buses taken in tamworth http://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/11859204033/ & http://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/11858895975/
Quote from: Solo1 on January 09, 2014, 07:58:17 PM
here is the new buses taken in tamworth http://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/11859204033/ & http://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/11858895975/
Good shots, wasn't expecting that type of display
Found this today but why is it only runinng mon-friday when
Diamond run it mon to sat
PD1021409/67 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: ACOCKS GREEN
Finish Point: SOLIHULL STATION
Via:
Service Number: 30
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 28-APR-2014
Other Details: Monday to Friday
K
Quote from: Solo1 on January 20, 2014, 12:45:21 PM
Found this today but why is it only runinng mon-friday when
Diamond run it mon to sat
PD1021409/67 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: ACOCKS GREEN
Finish Point: SOLIHULL STATION
Via:
Service Number: 30
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 28-APR-2014
Other Details: Monday to Friday
K
Interesting, maybe it is only a couple of workings a day? I know when I used to catch the NX 30/S3 from Acocks Green in the mornings, the 0745 journey would get rammed with schoolkids and college students, don't know what loadings are like since Diamond took over, but I have read complaints about buses being full at times.
Quote from: Stu on January 20, 2014, 07:03:06 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on January 20, 2014, 12:45:21 PM
Found this today but why is it only runinng mon-friday when
Diamond run it mon to sat
PD1021409/67 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: ACOCKS GREEN
Finish Point: SOLIHULL STATION
Via:
Service Number: 30
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 28-APR-2014
Other Details: Monday to Friday
K
Interesting, maybe it is only a couple of workings a day? I know when I used to catch the NX 30/S3 from Acocks Green in the mornings, the 0745 journey would get rammed with schoolkids and college students, don't know what loadings are like since Diamond took over, but I have read complaints about buses being full at times.
I used to travel on it now and again - the 3:15 from Solihull I think would fill a Citaro at times, not sure recently. But I believe the Saturday is quiet.
Could this be a commercial registration, and they feel the Saturday is not viable?
How well is the xpre55 doing?
I saw one last week arrive in Lichfield with about 20 people on & leave with about the same. Meanwhile arriva bought in about 6 & left with 2.
Will they b having any more buses for the new 30 service
The 30 service didn't last long then lol
PD1021409/67 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between ACOCKS GREEN and SOLIHULL STATION given service number 30 effective from 28-Apr-2014.
On VOSA today.
Quote from: Stu on February 24, 2014, 05:46:47 PM
The 30 service didn't last long then lol
PD1021409/67 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between ACOCKS GREEN and SOLIHULL STATION given service number 30 effective from 28-Apr-2014.
On VOSA today.
It seems they were going to operate it commercially - from NWM site:
30 Central Buses Acocks Green - Solihull via Olton Acocks Green - Solihull. Part commercial registration of a formerly tendered service. Mon - Sat every 30 mins.
Is this new Arriva registration in response to Central Buses X55?
PD0000478/393 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: LICHFIELD
Finish Point: TAMWORTH
Via: Upper John St, Hopwas Hill, Tamworth
Service Number: X65
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 28-APR-2014
Other Details: Monday to Saturday, Half hourly AM/PM Peak times and Hourly off Peak. No service Sundays or Bank Holiday Mondays
Looks like it is although a bit late to stop Geoff building a loyal passenger base.
IMO Geoff should now register anothe route against arriva to keep them one step behind
Quote from: Steveminor on March 05, 2014, 11:15:28 AM
Looks like it is although a bit late to stop Geoff building a loyal passenger base.
IMO Geoff should now register anothe route against arriva to keep them one step behind
Obviously Central Buses are making a big impact on Arriva takings, Arriva seem a bit slow to react.
Yes I agree with registering another competing route, would Central Buses see a bigger reaction if they were to launch a Tamworth town competing service?
Yes I think they would.
My suggestion keep it rural or between towns less reaction maybe extend the x55 to Nuneaton or atherstone or maybe take on the 116, with its hourly service 2 bus PVR it's an easy target & one I don't think arriva would react to very quickly.
Quote from: Steveminor on March 05, 2014, 08:41:59 PM
Yes I think they would.
My suggestion keep it rural or between towns less reaction maybe extend the x55 to Nuneaton or atherstone or maybe take on the 116, with its hourly service 2 bus PVR it's an easy target & one I don't think arriva would react to very quickly.
That is a very good call. Personally, I am really happy Central Buses are having a go against Arriva and by the looks of it doing extremely well. Just shows what a small company with new buses, friendly drivers and great customer service and promotion can achieve. Well done to them I say and I hope they launch something else in competition with arriva and keep them on their toes!
PD1021409/66 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted: Operating between Tamworth, Corporation Street and Lichfield Bus Station given service number X55 effective from 28-Apr-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.
Quote from: Winston on April 01, 2014, 04:22:45 PM
PD1021409/66 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted: Operating between Tamworth, Corporation Street and Lichfield Bus Station given service number X55 effective from 28-Apr-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.
I'm assuming this is because of the competition from the new Arriva service?
PD1021409/38 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Erdington, Six Ways and Streetly, Hardwick Arms given service number 88/89 effective from 28-Apr-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.
Central Buses 2 route master's https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/14033054101/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/14037089342/
PD1021409/48 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Hams Hall, Faraday Avenue and Birmingham International Airport given service number 777 effective from 28-Apr-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.
Congratulations Geoff!
http://www.suttoncoldfieldobserver.co.uk/Best-small-business-accolade-Perry-Barr-bus-firm/story-21013232-detail/story.html
Quote from: Winston on April 29, 2014, 11:10:53 PM
Congratulations Geoff!
http://www.suttoncoldfieldobserver.co.uk/Best-small-business-accolade-Perry-Barr-bus-firm/story-21013232-detail/story.html
Well deserved and hope they win the overall final prize!!
Central buses rm doing driver relief /crew bus at west brom https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/14078396242/
The RM is doing Crew Bus/Relief duties at Perry Barr One Stop today
It's the same duty
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/birmingham-bus-boss-started-3m-7069186
How it all began... Interesting really, just goes to show what you can achieve at such a young age. :)
Replacement for the 757 and 777 I assume
PD1021409/68 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Birmingham International Station
Finish Point: Sutton Coldfield
Via: Coleshill, Curdworth
Service Number: 75
Service Type: Normal Stopping/Hail & Ride
Effective Date: 02-JUN-2014
Other Details: Monday to Saturday
So Sutton will once again have a bus to the airport? Great news.
The Trident is/was on the 28E today
Does anybody know how passenger numbers on the X55 have been affected by Arriva's X65?
Quote from: trident4370 on May 08, 2014, 08:54:10 PM
So Sutton will once again have a bus to the airport? Great news.
The rural section east of Coleshill is covered in the main with an extension of service 735 from Ansley to Coleshill - providing an interesting link to Coventry :D
Now a quick query regarding the new 75/75A... Is it possible to travel with a one-day nbus or daytripper from Birmingham International to Sutton Coldfield town? (despite most of the route between those points being outside the county).
I'm willing to bet it will be valid for the bits only in the Centro area
I'm sure it's been stated elsewhere for other services that 'pop in and out' of the covered area that the pass is valid, as long as you don't get on or off outside the boundary.
Quote from: JPC on May 16, 2014, 07:49:32 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on May 08, 2014, 08:54:10 PM
So Sutton will once again have a bus to the airport? Great news.
The rural section east of Coleshill is covered in the main with an extension of service 735 from Ansley to Coleshill - providing an interesting link to Coventry :D
Now a quick query regarding the new 75/75A... Is it possible to travel with a one-day nbus or daytripper from Birmingham International to Sutton Coldfield town? (despite most of the route between those points being outside the county).
It's a grey area but as far as the 75/75a is concerned nBus will be valid providing the journey is to and from stops within the West Midlands county
I remember back to when Johnsons ran the 757 Sutton - Airport different drivers seemed to have different views when I tried to board with an nbus (or its equivalent back then) the company policy was yes they were valid so long as you boarded within the centro area and both terminal points were in the area.
It makes sense since they are valid on 255/256 which pass through parts of South Staffordshire and the 900 serves Meriden part of Warwickshire.
Meriden actually comes under solihull so as such is still part of the west midlands
Quote from: Steveminor on May 17, 2014, 05:21:57 AM
Meriden actually comes under solihull so as such is still part of the west midlands
There are three bus stops on service 900 which seem to be located within Warwickshire, very much the middle of nowhere so not worth worrying about in a fraud sense anyway, two at Packington Hall for each direction but NWM posts are installed, the third is on Maxstoke Lane (Old Hall Farm) for journeys towards Coventry and Google Streetview (dated May 2012) shows a TWM bus stop post.
For those who haven't seen it, this was posted on Central Buses Facebook page yesterday:
Quote from: Central Buses
Fleet News - The two Scanias that we operate in Countylinks livery YN56 NNB/C will be returning to Warwickshire County Council in a fortnight's time. We have also purchased another Trident which should be with us towards the end of the month
(https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1018.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf308%2Fxixtomxix%2FIMG_95281_zpsc0437499.jpg&hash=c9952479fdd53fa6c78b28bc868bfda5b57e564a) (http://s1018.photobucket.com/user/xixtomxix/media/IMG_95281_zpsc0437499.jpg.html)
Which new Trident you're getting, Thomas?
Quote from: N94 on May 18, 2014, 06:48:19 PM
For those who haven't seen it, this was posted on Central Buses Facebook page yesterday:
Quote from: Central Buses
Fleet News - The two Scanias that we operate in Countylinks livery YN56 NNB/C will be returning to Warwickshire County Council in a fortnight's time.
Interesting! Stagecoach returned their last Warwickshire County Links buses to WCC only a few weeks ago, so presumably this is at the County Council's request?
The 2 ex-Warwickshire CC Enviro300s are in the process of been painted into fleet livery
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1.0-9/q71/s720x720/10154157_10152146110878733_7167512404520931563_n.jpg
Quote from: John on May 24, 2014, 09:52:49 PM
The 2 ex-Warwickshire CC Enviro300s are in the process of been painted into fleet livery
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1.0-9/q71/s720x720/10154157_10152146110878733_7167512404520931563_n.jpg
wonder if these 2 enviros will b used
on their new 75 service
Interesting read on the Birmingham Mail today:
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/birmingham-bus-firm-axes-city-7169955
Bit 'old news' though? Central stopped running the 98 from 27th April (when WMSNT took over and renumbered it 28A).
But did Central Buses really "pull-the-plug" on the service as stated in the article? (I suppose 'decline to rebid for the contract tender' doesn't sound as dramatic does it!)
Quote from: Stu on May 25, 2014, 11:29:02 AM
Interesting read on the Birmingham Mail today:
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/birmingham-bus-firm-axes-city-7169955
Bit 'old news' though? Central stopped running the 98 from 27th April (when WMSNT took over and renumbered it 28A).
But did Central Buses really "pull-the-plug" on the service as stated in the article? (I suppose 'decline to rebid for the contract tender' doesn't sound as dramatic does it!)
We actually stopped running it in 2011! It's been re-tendered twice since and on both occasions we haven't submitted a bid
Quote from: gac_uk on May 25, 2014, 12:18:28 PM
Quote from: Stu on May 25, 2014, 11:29:02 AM
Interesting read on the Birmingham Mail today:
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/birmingham-bus-firm-axes-city-7169955
Bit 'old news' though? Central stopped running the 98 from 27th April (when WMSNT took over and renumbered it 28A).
But did Central Buses really "pull-the-plug" on the service as stated in the article? (I suppose 'decline to rebid for the contract tender' doesn't sound as dramatic does it!)
We actually stopped running it in 2011! It's been re-tendered twice since and on both occasions we haven't submitted a bid
Very old news then! Pity the Birmingham Mail can't their facts right! I suppose the reason for the delay in reporting this was down to ongoing court cases?
Quote from: gac_uk on May 25, 2014, 12:18:28 PM
Quote from: Stu on May 25, 2014, 11:29:02 AM
Interesting read on the Birmingham Mail today:
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/birmingham-bus-firm-axes-city-7169955
Bit 'old news' though? Central stopped running the 98 from 27th April (when WMSNT took over and renumbered it 28A).
But did Central Buses really "pull-the-plug" on the service as stated in the article? (I suppose 'decline to rebid for the contract tender' doesn't sound as dramatic does it!)
We actually stopped running it in 2011! It's been re-tendered twice since and on both occasions we haven't submitted a bid
Think Diamond ran it before WMSNT
Few pictures of SN04 EFM.
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Lovely work Thomas.
Saw one today at Perry Barr, still without the logos adhered. They look amazing, but I hadn't realised that Central Buses had even acquired any!
Quote from: clayderman on May 29, 2014, 09:35:45 PM
Saw one today at Perry Barr, still without the logos adhered. They look amazing, but I hadn't realised that Central Buses had even acquired any!
They haven't-they were already in the fleet in WCC livery...
Wasn't expecting a President
'X602 EGK' will look brilliant in the CB livery. Can't wait to see it :D
YN56NNB and YN56NNC have now left the fleet
Trident X602EGK is new to central buses fleet
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Back again!
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'X233 NNO' was on the 89 today
@Thomas DaviesHave they been acquired from WCC or have they been reallocated following new work?
Acquired from WCC
No probs :-)
BU12LJO on rail replacement work today. Redditch-Alvechurch-Barnt Green.
I bet those Scanias will be looking good in Central livery. Will the silver light surrounds stay silver or will they be black like the E200s?
The Scania OmniCities are up for sale on ebay: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131219480363?
I shall be heading down to the depot on Friday afternoon to take some photographs with a few friends. Does anyone have any information on X206? Central said their Trident is off site but didn't state if it was X233 or X206.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 26, 2014, 10:34:02 AM
I shall be heading down to the depot on Friday afternoon to take some photographs with a few friends. Does anyone have any information on X206? Central said their Trident is off site but didn't state if it was X233 or X206.
It will be X206 off site, I saw X233 yesterday, X206 is probably away being painted
PD1021409/54 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Halesowen and Oakalls Estate given service number 007 effective from 31-Aug-2014.
Quote from: Solo1 on June 26, 2014, 02:03:20 PM
PD1021409/54 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Halesowen and Oakalls Estate given service number 007 effective from 31-Aug-2014.
@the trainbasher as expected ;)
Quote from: Matt on June 26, 2014, 02:04:43 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on June 26, 2014, 02:03:20 PM
PD1021409/54 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Halesowen and Oakalls Estate given service number 007 effective from 31-Aug-2014.
@the trainbasher as expected ;)
Now for my next trick, a First Group Registration...
Quote from: the trainbasher on June 26, 2014, 02:06:11 PM
Quote from: Matt on June 26, 2014, 02:04:43 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on June 26, 2014, 02:03:20 PM
PD1021409/54 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Halesowen and Oakalls Estate given service number 007 effective from 31-Aug-2014.
@the trainbasher as expected ;)
Now for my next trick, a First Group Registration...
Ladies and gentlemen, prepare to be amazed...
Quote from: Matt on June 26, 2014, 02:11:05 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on June 26, 2014, 02:06:11 PM
Quote from: Matt on June 26, 2014, 02:04:43 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on June 26, 2014, 02:03:20 PM
PD1021409/54 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Halesowen and Oakalls Estate given service number 007 effective from 31-Aug-2014.
@the trainbasher as expected ;)
Now for my next trick, a First Group Registration...
Ladies and gentlemen, prepare to be amazed...
The suspense is killing us....
Green bus going to b running 007 with dart 502 I wonder
@Winston if you're on the other forum I know of, it will be a first (for ages) for halesowen!
Quote from: the trainbasher on June 26, 2014, 02:31:49 PM
@Winston if you're on the other forum I know of, it will be a first (for ages) for halesowen!
Indeed ;)
Quote from: the trainbasher on June 26, 2014, 02:31:49 PM
@Winston if you're on the other forum I know of, it will be a first (for ages) for halesowen!
Yep I sure am ;D
Quote from: the trainbasher on June 26, 2014, 02:31:49 PM
@Winston if you're on the other forum I know of, it will be a first (for ages) for halesowen!
Good choice of wording there!
Quote from: Matt on June 26, 2014, 02:41:52 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on June 26, 2014, 02:31:49 PM
@Winston if you're on the other forum I know of, it will be a first (for ages) for halesowen!
Good choice of wording there!
It would have been my First Choice as well....
Oh how I do love it when people gloat that they are know a secret
Quote from: Kevin on June 26, 2014, 09:51:16 PM
Oh how I do love it when people gloat that they are know a secret
It's not a secret if you know the First Place to look...
Enviro200 demonstrator YX14 YXB out on the 28E today
here r the 2 envrios with the branding on https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/14614089096/ & https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/14450474828/in/photostream/ both taken in sutton
According to Central Buses Facebook page, the Routemaster is on the Redditch rail replacement bus service today!
Quote from: Kevin on July 24, 2014, 11:42:13 AM
According to Central Buses Facebook page, the Routemaster is on the Redditch rail replacement bus service today!
It is indeed
It is at Longbridge at the minute
By the train station
PD1021409/61 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted: Operating between Great Barr, Dyas Road and Erdington, Wilton Market given service number 28E effective from 08-Sep-2014. To amend Timetable.
PD1021409/69 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Walsall Bus Station
Finish Point: Lichfield Bus Station
Via: Aldridge, Stonnall, Shenstone
Service Number: 35B
Service Type: Normal Stopping/Hail & Ride
Effective Date: 08-SEP-2014
Other Details: Monday to Saturday.
PD1021409/71 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Lichfield Bus Station
Finish Point: Burntwood
Via:
Service Number: 66
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 08-SEP-2014
Other Details: Monday to Saturday
when will X602 be back with central buses
Route master on Longbridge rail replacement
This 66 service sounds an interesting change to arriva number 60. Anyone know where it will terminate in Burntwood??
Quote from: busman99 on August 19, 2014, 07:47:51 PM
This 66 service sounds an interesting change to arriva number 60. Anyone know where it will terminate in Burntwood??
Think it will do a loop around Ironstone Road, High Street, Rugeley Road and Sankeys Corner.
So will probably follow the 60 route then?? Maybe I could use a better company if so
Knowing central buses knack for new routes I actually would have thought they'd attempt something between Lichfield and Brownhills, cause there isn't any route between the two atm and yet they're so close. Granted the 35 goes through Shire Oak, but I wouldn't count that, not quite close enough
Can't really see much of a market for that one to be honest. Maybe burntwood to Stafford (for the hospital )
Central Buses have a new Enviro 200 YX64VLZ
https://www.facebook.com/centralbusesfans/photos/a.1511118542453398.1073741828.1509323025966283/1535259736705945/?type=1&theater
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Looks good, just a shame they keep having these smart demonstrators but still go for the boring generic spec. what routes it planned for?
Quote from: Solo1 on August 14, 2014, 09:23:00 PM
when will X602 be back with central buses
X602EGK ex ensign bus in blue and silver
On Longbridge rail replacement to redditch
Does anybody know how the expre55 service is going between Lichfield and Tamworth.
It does seem to be busy but this morning I have noticed that Arriva have really started to push more buses on this route - 2 direct services
I hope they don't squeeze them out!!!
I often see the x55 with a handfull of passengers on, however a driver on the Arriva x65 said since Central Buses stared the X55 Arriva have seen a 25% increase in their passengers this could be why they are now using 2 buses
What people forget is Arriva is owned by DB and together are market leaders in transport and logistics. Throughout the company as a whole including Arriva and DB there is a wealth of expertise and so small companies such as Central we would like to see succeed its only a matter of time before its no longer viable to run the services, a shame for small companies like central
Quote from: busman99 on September 12, 2014, 10:12:02 AM
What people forget is Arriva is owned by DB and together are market leaders in transport and logistics. Throughout the company as a whole including Arriva and DB there is a wealth of expertise and so small companies such as Central we would like to see succeed its only a matter of time before its no longer viable to run the services, a shame for small companies like central
Arriva market leaders ??? That must have passed me by.......
The bulk of DB's business was German Rail prior to the Arriva takeover, they are a state owned company that has never had to compete to operate rail routes/franchises in the past. However, their size could be reduced as Germany goes out to tender for various rail contracts and opens up competition. NX Group has already won one German Rail route and I'm sure the likes of MTR, SNCF and Ned Railways will be participating.
What exactly has changed at Arriva since the acquisition by DB? It just seems to be business as usual in the UK.
It's interesting that the appearance of Central Buses X55 has spurred Arriva in to action to introduce a copycat X65 and it now offers reduced ticket prices, where before they made people pay much higher prices.
Similar to Arriva's reactive actions when NXWM won numerous South Staffs Cannock area tenders......
Getting back on topic, I'd view Central Buses being the innovative ones in the example of the 765 vs X55, they introduced brand new route branded buses with Wifi and an express version of the 765 with reduced journey times with cheaper pricing than the incumbent.
Quote from: Winston on September 12, 2014, 10:58:39 AM
Quote from: busman99 on September 12, 2014, 10:12:02 AM
What people forget is Arriva is owned by DB and together are market leaders in transport and logistics. Throughout the company as a whole including Arriva and DB there is a wealth of expertise and so small companies such as Central we would like to see succeed its only a matter of time before its no longer viable to run the services, a shame for small companies like central
Arriva market leaders ??? That must have passed me by.......
The bulk of DB's business was German Rail prior to the Arriva takeover, they are a state owned company that has never had to compete to operate rail routes/franchises in the past. However, their size could be reduced as Germany goes out to tender for various rail contracts and opens up competition. NX Group has already won one German Rail route and I'm sure the likes of MTR, SNCF and Ned Railways will be participating.
What exactly has changed at Arriva since the acquisition by DB? It just seems to be business as usual in the UK.
It's interesting that the appearance of Central Buses X55 has spurred Arriva in to action to introduce a copycat X65 and it now offers reduced ticket prices, where before they made people pay much higher prices.
Similar to Arriva's reactive actions when NXWM won numerous South Staffs Cannock area tenders......
Getting back on topic, I'd view Central Buses being the innovative ones in the example of the 765 vs X55, they introduced brand new route branded buses with Wifi and an express version of the 765 with reduced journey times with cheaper pricing than the incumbent.
It just goes to show that Central,even with the remoteness of their garage,can still compete with Arriva in Staffordshire,yet cannot compete much nearer home against NXWM.
Quite a compliment to NXWM when you think about it.
Quote from: arrifirststage on September 12, 2014, 02:51:11 PM
Quote from: Winston on September 12, 2014, 10:58:39 AM
Quote from: busman99 on September 12, 2014, 10:12:02 AM
What people forget is Arriva is owned by DB and together are market leaders in transport and logistics. Throughout the company as a whole including Arriva and DB there is a wealth of expertise and so small companies such as Central we would like to see succeed its only a matter of time before its no longer viable to run the services, a shame for small companies like central
Arriva market leaders ??? That must have passed me by.......
The bulk of DB's business was German Rail prior to the Arriva takeover, they are a state owned company that has never had to compete to operate rail routes/franchises in the past. However, their size could be reduced as Germany goes out to tender for various rail contracts and opens up competition. NX Group has already won one German Rail route and I'm sure the likes of MTR, SNCF and Ned Railways will be participating.
What exactly has changed at Arriva since the acquisition by DB? It just seems to be business as usual in the UK.
It's interesting that the appearance of Central Buses X55 has spurred Arriva in to action to introduce a copycat X65 and it now offers reduced ticket prices, where before they made people pay much higher prices.
Similar to Arriva's reactive actions when NXWM won numerous South Staffs Cannock area tenders......
Getting back on topic, I'd view Central Buses being the innovative ones in the example of the 765 vs X55, they introduced brand new route branded buses with Wifi and an express version of the 765 with reduced journey times with cheaper pricing than the incumbent.
It just goes to show that Central,even with the remoteness of their garage,can still compete with Arriva in Staffordshire,yet cannot compete much nearer home against NXWM.
Quite a compliment to NXWM when you think about it.
Operators struggle to compete against NXWM because of the dominance of their travelcard which is by far the most popular over anything NWM offer. Unless they can find a NXWM route that takes high proportions or cash fares & OAP passes, they're always going to struggle.
Am I right in saying too that the bigger the empire, the higher the overheads?
Quote from: the trainbasher on September 12, 2014, 04:40:19 PM
Am I right in saying too the bigger the empire, the higher the overheads?
Yes. The big empires have far more back office staff & management that all need paying, larger premises, higher utility costs etc which is a big mouth to feed. The big empires can benefit from negotiating cheaper rates for fuel & insurance due to buying in bulk. But the smaller operates have a far simpler company structure with fewer people that need paying.
Quote from: Winston on September 12, 2014, 05:24:56 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on September 12, 2014, 04:40:19 PM
Am I right in saying too the bigger the empire, the higher the overheads?
Yes. The big empires have far more back office staff & management that all need paying, larger premises, higher utility costs etc which is a big mouth to feed. The big empires can benefit from negotiating cheaper rates for fuel & insurance due to buying in bulk. But the smaller operates have a far simpler company structure with fewer people that need paying.
But of course larger operators can afford to run 'loss leaders' where smaller ones can't sustain that type of activity for long.
Central have been very innovative with the express service, but the residents of Whittington may disagree. The 765 was one of the few examples of a commercial service that used it's overall margins to effectively subsidise a regular and reliable service for a rural area that otherwise wouldn't sustain it.
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on August 27, 2014, 07:14:13 PM
Central Buses have a new Enviro 200 YX64VLZ
https://www.facebook.com/centralbusesfans/photos/a.1511118542453398.1073741828.1509323025966283/1535259736705945/?type=1&theater
Now in fleet livery and on the 89 today
central new 1 in Walsall https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/15331970542/
One of the Coleshill Connection Enviro300s was on the 28E today, with paper in the front window for the route information
Coleshill Connection branded on 28E
Their President has now been repainted, but not yet finished off with logos etc
Quote from: John on November 05, 2014, 07:04:38 PM
Their President has now been repainted, but not yet finished off with logos etc
Think it was in West Brom Bus Station this afternoon.
Quote from: uniquicity on November 05, 2014, 08:47:22 PM
Quote from: John on November 05, 2014, 07:04:38 PM
Their President has now been repainted, but not yet finished off with logos etc
Think it was in West Brom Bus Station this afternoon.
Probably on staff bus duties, saw it yesterday at perry Barr one stop, it does look smart, especially for a president
What times is the crew bus parked at perry Barr 1 stop &at west from & which bus is used
Quote from: Solo1 on November 16, 2014, 12:07:22 PM
What times is the crew bus parked at perry Barr 1 stop &at west from & which bus is used
Have seen it about 14.30 at perry Barr one stop quite a a lot
PD1021409/57 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted: Operating between Castle Vale, Tangmere Drive and Castle Vale, Tangmere Drive given service number 696 effective from 12-Jan-2015. To amend Timetable.
PD1021409/66 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted: Operating between Tamworth, Corporation Street and Lichfield Bus Station given service number X55 effective from 10-Jan-2015. To amend Timetable.
It seems Central Buses has won the battle of the express routes between Tamworth & Lichfield, fair play!
PD0000478/393 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between LICHFIELD and TAMWORTH given service number X65 effective from 11-Jan-2015.
Quote from: andy on November 20, 2014, 04:00:49 PM
Quote from: Winston on November 20, 2014, 03:07:24 PM
PD1021409/57 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted: Operating between Castle Vale, Tangmere Drive and Castle Vale, Tangmere Drive given service number 696 effective from 12-Jan-2015. To amend Timetable.
PD1021409/66 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted: Operating between Tamworth, Corporation Street and Lichfield Bus Station given service number X55 effective from 10-Jan-2015. To amend Timetable.
It seems Central Buses has won the battle of the express routes between Tamworth & Lichfield, fair play!
PD0000478/393 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between LICHFIELD and TAMWORTH given service number X65 effective from 11-Jan-2015.
Winston, I don't watch VOSA as carefully as you but are you sure Arriva haven't registered the X25 through to Tamworth in replacement?
Andy, they haven't as yet. Only other changes are on the 2/2A/2E, 25/6, 60 & 74/5
Quote from: Winston on November 20, 2014, 04:12:04 PM
Quote from: andy on November 20, 2014, 04:00:49 PM
Quote from: Winston on November 20, 2014, 03:07:24 PM
PD1021409/57 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted: Operating between Castle Vale, Tangmere Drive and Castle Vale, Tangmere Drive given service number 696 effective from 12-Jan-2015. To amend Timetable.
PD1021409/66 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted: Operating between Tamworth, Corporation Street and Lichfield Bus Station given service number X55 effective from 10-Jan-2015. To amend Timetable.
It seems Central Buses has won the battle of the express routes between Tamworth & Lichfield, fair play!
PD0000478/393 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between LICHFIELD and TAMWORTH given service number X65 effective from 11-Jan-2015.
Winston, I don't watch VOSA as carefully as you but are you sure Arriva haven't registered the X25 through to Tamworth in replacement?
Andy, they haven't as yet. Only other changes are on the 2/2A/2E, 25/6, 60 & 74/5
The changes to the 60 include X60 journeys which extend from Lichfield to Tamworth to replace the X65. Might be every 30 mins instead of hourly as well, can't remember.
Quote from: Cheese on November 20, 2014, 04:58:05 PM
Quote from: Winston on November 20, 2014, 04:12:04 PM
Quote from: andy on November 20, 2014, 04:00:49 PM
Quote from: Winston on November 20, 2014, 03:07:24 PM
PD1021409/57 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted: Operating between Castle Vale, Tangmere Drive and Castle Vale, Tangmere Drive given service number 696 effective from 12-Jan-2015. To amend Timetable.
PD1021409/66 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted: Operating between Tamworth, Corporation Street and Lichfield Bus Station given service number X55 effective from 10-Jan-2015. To amend Timetable.
It seems Central Buses has won the battle of the express routes between Tamworth & Lichfield, fair play!
PD0000478/393 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between LICHFIELD and TAMWORTH given service number X65 effective from 11-Jan-2015.
Winston, I don't watch VOSA as carefully as you but are you sure Arriva haven't registered the X25 through to Tamworth in replacement?
Andy, they haven't as yet. Only other changes are on the 2/2A/2E, 25/6, 60 & 74/5
The changes to the 60 include X60 journeys which extend from Lichfield to Tamworth to replace the X65. Might be every 30 mins instead of hourly as well, can't remember.
That's a shame. The X65 was already half hourly.
Quote from: Winston on November 20, 2014, 05:12:04 PM
Quote from: Cheese on November 20, 2014, 04:58:05 PM
Quote from: Winston on November 20, 2014, 04:12:04 PM
Quote from: andy on November 20, 2014, 04:00:49 PM
Quote from: Winston on November 20, 2014, 03:07:24 PM
PD1021409/57 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted: Operating between Castle Vale, Tangmere Drive and Castle Vale, Tangmere Drive given service number 696 effective from 12-Jan-2015. To amend Timetable.
PD1021409/66 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted: Operating between Tamworth, Corporation Street and Lichfield Bus Station given service number X55 effective from 10-Jan-2015. To amend Timetable.
It seems Central Buses has won the battle of the express routes between Tamworth & Lichfield, fair play!
PD0000478/393 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between LICHFIELD and TAMWORTH given service number X65 effective from 11-Jan-2015.
Winston, I don't watch VOSA as carefully as you but are you sure Arriva haven't registered the X25 through to Tamworth in replacement?
Andy, they haven't as yet. Only other changes are on the 2/2A/2E, 25/6, 60 & 74/5
The changes to the 60 include X60 journeys which extend from Lichfield to Tamworth to replace the X65. Might be every 30 mins instead of hourly as well, can't remember.
That's a shame. The X65 was already half hourly.
X65 is only half hourly at peak times, hourly during the day so the X60 might be an improvement if it's half hourly all day.
Interesting, a direct link from Tamworth to Cannock, something they've never bothered to try before. Coupled with the strengthening of the Lichfield to Stafford corridor at last it would appear Arriva are starting to take Lichfield corridors seriously again.
Anyone know why the Trident was in Walsall about 0902, neither the 35B or the 74 are busy enough to warrant a decker?
Quote from: ARJ2901 on November 28, 2014, 09:15:24 AM
Anyone know why the Trident was in Walsall about 0902, neither the 35B or the 74 are busy enough to warrant a decker?
Relief bus.
According to NWM services changes, Central Buses are picking up the 125 between Stourbridge - Kidderminster on an hourly frequency (Mon-Sat daytime) from 5th Jan
http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/bus/servicechanges/ServiceChangesPages/4January.aspx
Looks like I'm retiming my commute from work! :-)
Quote from: Winston on December 01, 2014, 03:30:23 PM
According to NWM services changes, Central Buses are picking up the 125 between Stourbridge - Kidderminster on an hourly frequency (Mon-Sat daytime) from 5th Jan
http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/bus/servicechanges/ServiceChangesPages/4January.aspx
that's a better services than now on that section of the 125 its only hourly off peak
Will it be viable with an hourly frequency or will it be a little too much. I personally would have kept it 2 hourly & extended the stourbridge end to Merry Hill
Quote from: Steveminor on December 01, 2014, 08:37:53 PM
Will it be viable with an hourly frequency or will it be a little too much. I personally would have kept it 2 hourly & extended the stourbridge end to Merry Hill
It was hourly previously before 1st Sept WCC changes, an extension to Merry Hill is worth trialing
Hansons tried a Kiddy to Merry Hill service a few years ago but that went via the Norton Estate and ran Saturday and Sunday only.
That got withdrawn after a few months
I think the subsidy was cut so whittles dropped it to 2 hourly to keep it commercially viable.
If you took the existing passenger base from the 125 then added those that used the kiddy merry hill service end to end I think it would be quite a profitable little route.
Quote from: Steveminor on December 01, 2014, 09:19:35 PM
I think the subsidy was cut so whittles dropped it to 2 hourly to keep it commercially viable.
If you took the existing passenger base from the 125 then added those that used the kiddy merry hill service end to end I think it would be quite a profitable little route.
I was under the impression that the 125 between S'bridge - Kidderminster was reduced due to unreliability, you may well be right.
It's a pity an extended 125 through to Merry Hill couldn't have started today, could have given it a nice kick start with Xmas shoppers etc
Quote from: the trainbasher on December 01, 2014, 09:01:45 PM
Hansons tried a Kiddy to Merry Hill service a few years ago but that went via the Norton Estate and ran Saturday and Sunday only.
That got withdrawn after a few months
midland red west tried a daily service when they where operating services in the black country only lasted a couple of years
whittles tried one from stourport (once a week ) and(once a week) bridgnorth via Kidderminster making between the two a twice weekly from Kidderminster latter cut down to a weekly from Kidderminster. which latter choice travel took on but did not really last long, but as there are more and more shops closing down in Kidderminster now it might be worth trying again an more successful. as now if people like myself have no car at the moment we only have Worcester and Redditch to go to for shopping for gifts . have not included Stourbridge as it is so long since I have been there do not know what it is like , I think the foster street midland red garage was still in use
Routemaster running day on the 66 this Saturday: http://centralbuses.com/news.html
I've read about Central taking over the Kidder - Stourbridge section of the 125 but I was talking to a friend of mine last night and we are both convinced that Central are going in for the whole of Whittle NOT just this section I mean the whole sha-bang I honestly believe that if they did it would be a bit of healthy competition for Diamond as I had a look on the Central fleet list on here earlier and I have to admit they have some nice little vehicles for e.g. 12-plate Enviros etc now I can envisage those in Kiddy I genuinely can and I believe it would certainly put the cat amongst the pigeons in regards with some of the buses Diamond use on the X3 for e.g. a 15-year old Dart! and Central would possibly use a 12/13 plate on the 125 I think it'd be fantastic I do genuinely hope they do get the whole company at least I might get a chance of getting a job with them Diamond haven't offered me anything else since...
Quote from: Will on December 02, 2014, 02:50:03 AM
I've read about Central taking over the Kidder - Stourbridge section of the 125 but I was talking to a friend of mine last night and we are both convinced that Central are going in for the whole of Whittle NOT just this section I mean the whole sha-bang I honestly believe that if they did it would be a bit of healthy competition for Diamond as I had a look on the Central fleet list on here earlier and I have to admit they have some nice little vehicles for e.g. 12-plate Enviros etc now I can envisage those in Kiddy I genuinely can and I believe it would certainly put the cat amongst the pigeons in regards with some of the buses Diamond use on the X3 for e.g. a 15-year old Dart! and Central would possibly use a 12/13 plate on the 125 I think it'd be fantastic I do genuinely hope they do get the whole company at least I might get a chance of getting a job with them Diamond haven't offered me anything else since...
Will take a look at colum 4 again what it says about whittles .note the word closure .there is
No one taking over whittles. More staff left yesterday. And redundancy have been given to everyone
Quote from: Will on December 02, 2014, 02:50:03 AMI might get a chance of getting a job with them Diamond haven't offered me anything else since...
But I thought you quit your job with Rotala Will?
Quote from: StourportSam on December 03, 2014, 12:15:27 AM
Quote from: Will on December 02, 2014, 02:50:03 AMI might get a chance of getting a job with them Diamond haven't offered me anything else since...
But I thought you quit your job with Rotala Will?
I did...
Quote from: John on November 05, 2014, 07:04:38 PM
Their President has now been repainted, but not yet finished off with logos etc
Managed to find it parked in One Stop this morning
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/15936797051/
4 Six year old Optare Versas are due to join the fleet in the next couple of days, ex Transdev
Quote from: Tony on December 16, 2014, 06:52:05 PM
4 Six year old Optare Versas are due to join the fleet in the next couple of days, ex Transdev
what service r these versa's going to be used
on the new 125 Kidderminster service or something else
Quote from: Tony on December 16, 2014, 06:52:05 PM
4 Six year old Optare Versas are due to join the fleet in the next couple of days, ex Transdev
Would they be the 57 plate ones just displaced by Streetlites in Burnley?
Quote from: Ashley on December 17, 2014, 04:03:38 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 16, 2014, 06:52:05 PM
4 Six year old Optare Versas are due to join the fleet in the next couple of days, ex Transdev
Would they be the 57 plate ones just displaced by Streetlites in Burnley?
Yes
Quote from: Tony on December 16, 2014, 06:52:05 PM
4 Six year old Optare Versas are due to join the fleet in the next couple of days, ex Transdev
Central have confirmed they are due on Friday.
http://centralbuses.com/news.html the routre master is out again 29 dec
Good news it looks like Central Buses have now got both Stourbridge and Bridgnorth sections of the 125 yeah! :D
http://centralbuses.com/timetables/125.pdf (http://centralbuses.com/timetables/125.pdf)
Quote from: LM 172 on December 18, 2014, 04:42:48 PM
Good news it looks like Central Buses have now got both Stourbridge and Bridgnorth sections of the 125 yeah! :D
http://centralbuses.com/timetables/125.pdf (http://centralbuses.com/timetables/125.pdf)
And the frequency between Stourbridge and Kidderminster is back up to hourly again from 2 hourly which is what it was.
It's great for me to get to work...but to get home I've got to rely now on the 276! :-(
Quote from: LM 172 on December 18, 2014, 04:42:48 PM
Good news it looks like Central Buses have now got both Stourbridge and Bridgnorth sections of the 125 yeah! :D
http://centralbuses.com/timetables/125.pdf (http://centralbuses.com/timetables/125.pdf)
Central Buses 125 vs Arriva Bus 297
Who will win?
Quote from: LM 172 on December 18, 2014, 04:57:27 PM
Quote from: LM 172 on December 18, 2014, 04:42:48 PM
Good news it looks like Central Buses have now got both Stourbridge and Bridgnorth sections of the 125 yeah! :D
http://centralbuses.com/timetables/125.pdf (http://centralbuses.com/timetables/125.pdf)
Central Buses 125 vs Arriva Bus 297
Who will win?
A light-hearted comment. Yes this isn't Lichfield and Tamworth. I am sure Diamond will welcome Central.
Quote from: LM 172 on December 18, 2014, 04:57:27 PM
Quote from: LM 172 on December 18, 2014, 04:42:48 PM
Good news it looks like Central Buses have now got both Stourbridge and Bridgnorth sections of the 125 yeah! :D
http://centralbuses.com/timetables/125.pdf (http://centralbuses.com/timetables/125.pdf)
Central Buses 125 vs Arriva Bus 297
Who will win?g
Can't really compare the two as they rum
On different sides of the river Severn
Their double decker bus is currently on the 61 in Bearwood
it should do the 2:51 departure
any pics of the the new versa's
Quote from: Solo1 on December 23, 2014, 03:34:53 PM
any pics of the the new versa's
Yes here is one of them on Central Buses Facebook page :)
https://www.facebook.com/centralbuses?pnref=story (https://www.facebook.com/centralbuses?pnref=story)
popped down to central on the off chance & got all 4 versa's https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16094786801/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16096731985/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16070899066/in/photostream/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16094725811/in/photostream/
Quote from: OH25 on December 23, 2014, 02:49:40 PM
Their double decker bus is currently on the 61 in Bearwood
it should do the 2:51 departure
Oh Jesus... I'm now imagining attempts to get a decker around Birchfield...
Have a feeling Central might've done quite well on the 696 today as it was the day the Routemaster was running it, heard quite a few positive comments about it, and saw quite a few photographers.
The photos i took should be on my Flickr page
https://www.flickr.com/photos/127701512@N04/
Central Buses YX64VLZ has been at Kidderminster Bus Station all day today recruiting drivers!!
I also got a few shot as we'll :)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16148396011/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16148396011/)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16148397991/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16148397991/)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/15530564253/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/15530564253/)
Quote from: LM 172 on December 30, 2014, 11:34:24 PM
Central Buses YX64VLZ has been at Kidderminster Bus Station all day today recruiting drivers!!
I also got a few shot as we'll :)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16148396011/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16148396011/)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16148397991/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16148397991/)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/15530564253/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/15530564253/)
That looks amazing!!! It seriously does put Diamond to shame - supposedly I've been told Diamond don't like me very much & so this is why they have never re-employed me all I say to that is oh well they're loss I might try Central or even Johnsons either way I'll probably stand a much better chance
Quote from: Will on December 30, 2014, 11:40:37 PM
Quote from: LM 172 on December 30, 2014, 11:34:24 PM
Central Buses YX64VLZ has been at Kidderminster Bus Station all day today recruiting drivers!!
I also got a few shot as we'll :)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16148396011/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16148396011/)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16148397991/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16148397991/)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/15530564253/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/15530564253/)
That looks amazing!!! It seriously does put Diamond to shame - supposedly I've been told Diamond don't like me very much & so this is why they have never re-employed me all I say to that is oh well they're loss I might try Central or even Johnsons either way I'll probably stand a much better chance
We'll Will I'ver way the buses at Central or the coaches Johnson's are still newer than Diamonds Buses in Kidderminster at the moment! :)
Quote from: LM 172 on December 30, 2014, 11:44:31 PM
Quote from: Will on December 30, 2014, 11:40:37 PM
Quote from: LM 172 on December 30, 2014, 11:34:24 PM
Central Buses YX64VLZ has been at Kidderminster Bus Station all day today recruiting drivers!!
I also got a few shot as we'll :)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16148396011/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16148396011/)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16148397991/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/16148397991/)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/15530564253/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/111243429@N03/15530564253/)
That looks amazing!!! It seriously does put Diamond to shame - supposedly I've been told Diamond don't like me very much & so this is why they have never re-employed me all I say to that is oh well they're loss I might try Central or even Johnsons either way I'll probably stand a much better chance
We'll Will I'ver way the buses at Central or the coaches Johnson's are still newer than Diamonds Buses in Kidderminster at the moment! :)
Exactly!
Optare Versa YJ57XVY out on the 75 this morning.
I have a feeling at least one versa will be on there...
There was a versa on it in Stourbridge at 13:15
Yeah, YJ57XVT. I caught it to work. XVX/Y is also on it.
The engines seemed to purr and was rattle free.
X602 EGK was on the 39(?) school bus yesterday. Managed to get a photo of it.
BU12LJO was on the 1720 ex Stourbridge today
Quote from: the trainbasher on January 06, 2015, 05:32:46 PM
BU12LJO was on the 1720 ex Stourbridge today
wonder if one of the versa's has gone for painting .will
they get branded for 125 service like the Lichfield service & 75 service
Yesterdays Versa on the 125
YJ57XVT - http://www.busphotography.co.uk/picture.php?/11010/category/13
YJ57XVX - http://www.busphotography.co.uk/picture.php?/11011/category/13
YJ57XVY - http://www.busphotography.co.uk/picture.php?/11009/category/13
I saw a smart 12 plate Enviro 200 on the 125 on Tuesday.
Quote from: the trainbasher on January 06, 2015, 10:57:58 PM
Yesterdays Versa on the 125
YJ57XVT - http://www.busphotography.co.uk/picture.php?/11010/category/13
YJ57XVX - http://www.busphotography.co.uk/picture.php?/11011/category/13
YJ57XVY - http://www.busphotography.co.uk/picture.php?/11009/category/13
That's made me happy seeing those photos. At least two of the drivers in the photos were working for Whittle Coach & Bus Ltd until very recently. Glad they have found alternative employment.
Quote from: StourportSam on January 08, 2015, 12:12:47 AM
I saw a smart 12 plate Enviro 200 on the 125 on Tuesday.
As posted above BU12LJO it was.
One of the versa's action for as crew bus at West brom bus
Station
EU06WGM was the dart on the 125 before anyone asks...
A 75 branded Enviro 300 was on the 39(?) today.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on January 09, 2015, 09:01:44 AM
A 75 branded Enviro 300 was on the 39(?) today.
With a versa on the 75
YX64VLZ on the 125 this morning in Kidderminster heading towards Stourbridge. 8)
Quote from: LM 172 on January 17, 2015, 12:13:01 PM
YX64VLZ on the 125 this morning in Kidderminster heading towards Stourbridge. 8)
What time?
Quote from: the trainbasher on January 17, 2015, 02:23:53 PM
Quote from: LM 172 on January 17, 2015, 12:13:01 PM
YX64VLZ on the 125 this morning in Kidderminster heading towards Stourbridge. 8)
What time?
It would of been the 09:52 dep from Kidderminster :)
@LM 172 if it's still out then it should be on the 1615 ex Stourbridge....
not up on optare products what is the difference in the look of a versa from a solo
Quote from: LM 172 on January 17, 2015, 12:13:01 PM
YX64VLZ on the 125 this morning in Kidderminster heading towards Stourbridge. 8)
what was on the 74 in Walsall
Quote from: Ced on January 17, 2015, 08:50:12 PM
not up on optare products what is the difference in the look of a versa from a solo
Optare Versa:
http://wmbusphotos.com/Central/YJ57XVT.html
Optare Solo:
http://wmbusphotos.com/Central/YJ59PKA.html
MX56HYA on the 125 this morning in Kidderminster heading to Bridgnorth. I will upload the photos to Flickr later on. 8)
It must be a fair amount of dead mileage for Central to get over to Kiddy or Bridgnorth to start the 125.
How are they making it worthwhile operating over there?
Quote from: Westy on January 24, 2015, 11:19:34 AM
It must be a fair amount of dead mileage for Central to get over to Kiddy or Bridgnorth to start the 125.
How are they making it worthwhile operating over there?
Some how Central make it work for them the 125 is very profitable sometimes so it's recovered via fares. Also Central factored in the cost of this when they bid for the 125.
Just to say no 125 Central services run empty to or from Bridgnorth only to/from Stourbridge or Kidderminster early in the morning and later on in the evening.
It would be instructive to know how the subsidy for the Kidderminster-Bridgnorth section that Central are getting compares with what Whittle received.
;
Presumably the Stourbridge end was profitable given the fact it was registered straight away.
Quote from: Westy on January 24, 2015, 11:19:34 AM
It must be a fair amount of dead mileage for Central to get over to Kiddy or Bridgnorth to start the 125.
How are they making it worthwhile operating over there?
I believe there is an outstation near Lye to operate 2 of the 3 vehicles required for 125.
Quote from: 646 on January 24, 2015, 06:19:37 PM
Quote from: Westy on January 24, 2015, 11:19:34 AM
It must be a fair amount of dead mileage for Central to get over to Kiddy or Bridgnorth to start the 125.
How are they making it worthwhile operating over there?
I believe there is an outstation near Lye to operate 2 of the 3 vehicles required for 125.
I see.
Where in Lye is the outstation for Central
Quote from: Matt on January 24, 2015, 06:27:37 PM
Quote from: 646 on January 24, 2015, 06:19:37 PM
Quote from: Westy on January 24, 2015, 11:19:34 AM
It must be a fair amount of dead mileage for Central to get over to Kiddy or Bridgnorth to start the 125.
How are they making it worthwhile operating over there?
I believe there is an outstation near Lye to operate 2 of the 3 vehicles required for 125.
I see one of the Versas most weekday mornings just after 8 running dead from M5 J3, stops at the filling station by the Black Horse on Manor Way.
presumably the same one I see sometimes heading up the A34 towards Scott Arms in the morning
just come across this
3. PD1021409/73 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Stourbridge Bus Station and Bridgnorth given service number 125 effective from 07-Feb-2015. To amend Route and Timetable
Quote from: Cedric on February 06, 2015, 01:04:24 PM
just come across this
3. PD1021409/73 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Stourbridge Bus Station and Bridgnorth given service number 125 effective from 07-Feb-2015. To amend Route and Timetable
Highly to Bridgnorth section going to alternate hours due to roadworks I believe
What are the fares for a return stourbridge- Bridgnorth?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 07, 2015, 06:27:14 PM
What are the fares for a return stourbridge- Bridgnorth?
Central Day Tickets are £6.00
£6 for adults, £4 for children?
How is the expre55 holding up in people's opinion?
Today on the 125...
To Dart? Or Not to Dart?
EU06KPA
http://busphotography.co.uk/picture.php?/3566
Quote from: the trainbasher on February 17, 2015, 04:23:51 PM
Today on the 125...
To Dart? Or Not to Dart?
EU06KPA
http://busphotography.co.uk/picture.php?/3566
It's been full and standing most of the day!
Versa was on the 75 today, saw it on the business park.
Quote from: Dutsey on February 17, 2015, 09:30:52 PM
Versa was on the 75 today, saw it on the business park.
and was a short enviro 200
do the vehicles the work the 125 come down from Perry Bar to work it
or are they outstation some where local
Quote from: Cedric on February 22, 2015, 10:44:03 PM
do the vehicles the work the 125 come down from Perry Bar to work it
or are they outstation some where local
Cedric,
No there is an outstation somewhere near Lye.
PD1021409/39 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted: Operating between Sutton Coldfield, Lower Parade and Streetly, Queslett Island given service number 78 effective from 27-Apr-2015. To amend Timetable.
PD1021409/55 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between West Bromwich Bus |Station and Dudley Bus Station given service number 74A effective from 23-Feb-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
The first Optare Versa YJ57XVW has been repainted in Central Buses standard livery and it also seems to have a fleet number 9. On the inside there are new seat covers and an interior repaint as we'll. 8)
https://www.facebook.com/centralbuses/photos/a.10150116885558733.281830.86436243732/10152733966008733/?type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/centralbuses/photos/a.10150116885558733.281830.86436243732/10152733966008733/?type=1&theater)
Quote from: Reece on March 02, 2015, 04:54:18 PM
The first Optare Versa YJ57XVW has been repainted in Central Buses standard livery and it also seems to have a fleet number 9. On the inside there are new seat covers and an interior repaint as we'll. 8)
https://www.facebook.com/centralbuses/photos/a.10150116885558733.281830.86436243732/10152733966008733/?type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/centralbuses/photos/a.10150116885558733.281830.86436243732/10152733966008733/?type=1&theater)
Passed it on the Lichfield Road this afternoon. Looks exceptionally smart, like usual for Central Buses
thought someone would put a photo of who is on X73 now Acorn val's no longer running here is central buses https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16672319346/ on X73
Quote from: Solo1 on March 02, 2015, 09:51:12 PM
thought someone would put a photo of who is on X73 now Acorn val's no longer running here is central buses https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16672319346/ on X73
Yes - a Central Buses Enviro 200 did the morning X73 to Birmingham, and Staffordshire County Council's March Bus Service Changes pages state that Central Buses are also operating the 16 (Tamworth - Kingsbury) from today. Both timetables are said to be unchanged.
Quote from: Solo1 on March 02, 2015, 09:51:12 PM
thought someone would put a photo of who is on X73 now Acorn val's no longer running here is central buses https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16672319346/ on X73
Thanks for posting! It's good to see the X73 get a reliable, smart company operating it. Hopefully it can be built back up as let's face it, if anyone can do it it's Central after their success on the X55, proving they can run a quality alternative to Arriva people will happily catch!
Do Central do any daytickets? This suddenly seems tempting to have a day off and go play on their routes
Quote from: Kevin on March 03, 2015, 07:56:19 AM
Do Central do any daytickets? This suddenly seems tempting to have a day off and go play on their routes
Yes an adult dayrider is £6.00
that seems very expensive for 1 day!
PD1021409/74 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Tamworth
Finish Point: Park Hall Academy
Via: Kingsbury
Service Number: 16
Service Type: Normal Stopping/Hail & Ride
Effective Date: 02-MAR-2015
Other Details: Monday to Friday
PD1021409/75 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Fazeley
Finish Point: Birmingham, Priory Queensway
Via: M42
Service Number: X73
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 02-MAR-2015
Other Details: Monday to Friday, one journey in each direction
Quote from: Kevin on March 03, 2015, 07:56:19 AM
Do Central do any daytickets? This suddenly seems tempting to have a day off and go play on their routes
Do they have the network?
Theres only the 74 by me & no other points of contact as far as I know.
@Westy they do the 35b to Lichfield (where you can connect to the x55 where connections there to the 16 are available)
Looks like their building a network in Staffordshire
Where do you reckon they could take it from here then? Extend the 16 to brum and compete with Arriva?
here is the versa in service today on X73 https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16548077738/
with the driver of the 73 from Heartlands https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16528413567/
I think the express service could work more frequently between Tamworth and Birmingham.
Quote from: Dutsey on March 09, 2015, 10:26:34 AM
I think the express service could work more frequently between Tamworth and Birmingham.
it might if extend to Tamworth town centre as I think it only goes to Fazeley
I have heard central are supposed to be opening a depot up in Kidderminster
For 4 vehicles to run on the 125 to cut out the dead mileage
Quote from: Dutsey on March 09, 2015, 10:26:34 AM
I think the express service could work more frequently between Tamworth and Birmingham.
Arriva's X74 flopped miserably..
Thing that it would be good if Central took the route on, many people from Tamworth still moan about how long the arriva service takes between Tamworth & Brum
There's not enough of them to make yet another tamworth brum service viable. Hell there's not even enough to keep the 116 viable without cross subsidising it with the 115
Quote from: Steveminor on March 09, 2015, 10:46:41 PM
There's not enough of them to make yet another tamworth brum service viable. Hell there's not even enough to keep the 116 viable without cross subsidising it with the 115
Others have disagreed strongly with me on here in the past about this but I've never been on a busy 110.
Having said that, I think a service similar to how Diamond run the 108 could work ie a few fast journeys aimed at commuters, after all, Sapphire is meant to be a brand used on services with a higher than average percentage of commuters travelling to and from work on longer distance services.
Quote from: DiamondDart on March 09, 2015, 11:21:22 PM
Quote from: Steveminor on March 09, 2015, 10:46:41 PM
There's not enough of them to make yet another tamworth brum service viable. Hell there's not even enough to keep the 116 viable without cross subsidising it with the 115
Others have disagreed strongly with me on here in the past about this but I've never been on a busy 110.
Having said that, I think a service similar to how Diamond run the 108 could work ie a few fast journeys aimed at commuters, after all, Sapphire is meant to be a brand used on services with a higher than average percentage of commuters travelling to and from work on longer distance services.
Ive been on dozens of 110s incl peak ones and have never seen it busy. Been on citaros that have only been a third full
Quote from: Bob on March 10, 2015, 06:13:59 AM
Quote from: DiamondDart on March 09, 2015, 11:21:22 PM
Quote from: Steveminor on March 09, 2015, 10:46:41 PM
There's not enough of them to make yet another tamworth brum service viable. Hell there's not even enough to keep the 116 viable without cross subsidising it with the 115
Others have disagreed strongly with me on here in the past about this but I've never been on a busy 110.
Having said that, I think a service similar to how Diamond run the 108 could work ie a few fast journeys aimed at commuters, after all, Sapphire is meant to be a brand used on services with a higher than average percentage of commuters travelling to and from work on longer distance services.
Ive been on dozens of 110s incl peak ones and have never seen it busy. Been on citaros that have only been a third full
Just to throw tuppence in. I've been on an E400 that's been full, so it does happen.
Quote from: Steveminor on March 09, 2015, 10:46:41 PM
There's not enough of them to make yet another tamworth brum service viable. Hell there's not even enough to keep the 116 viable without cross subsidising it with the 115
So why did Arriva increase the 110 if the customer base is low
They increased the frequency about the same time as they cut the x74 & reduced the 116 so in fact there are less buses between tamworth & brum than when the 110 was half hourly.
I was on a busy E400 on Saturday into Birmingham.
Quote from: Cedric on March 09, 2015, 04:22:33 PM
I have heard central are supposed to be opening a depot up in Kidderminster
For 4 vehicles to run on the 125 to cut out the dead mileage
This is opening on 23/3/15 and it is in mill street. a street in which whittles used to have a depot . when I was a lot younger anyone under about 50 will not remember it
i take it the depot will hold more than 4 buses as they may wish to run some services around Kidderminster /Worcester area along with 125
Quote from: Solo1 on March 13, 2015, 07:10:53 PM
i take it the depot will hold more than 4 buses as they may wish to run some services around Kidderminster /Worcester area along with 125
all I know it's 4 based there when it opens who knows what the future might bring
Quote from: Cedric on March 13, 2015, 07:38:26 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on March 13, 2015, 07:10:53 PM
i take it the depot will hold more than 4 buses as they may wish to run some services around Kidderminster /Worcester area along with 125
all I know it's 4 based there when it opens who knows what the future might bring
I know where that depot will be in Kidderminster on Mill Street as I walk past it everytime I go into town. It will be in the old Renault Dealer/Garage which also has fueling facilities at the rear. It has recently been used and called the Mill Steet Trading Estate.
Yes a depot that I can walk on my journey into town.
Quote from: Reece on March 13, 2015, 08:12:40 PM
Quote from: Cedric on March 13, 2015, 07:38:26 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on March 13, 2015, 07:10:53 PM
i take it the depot will hold more than 4 buses as they may wish to run some services around Kidderminster /Worcester area along with 125
all I know it's 4 based there when it opens who knows what the future might bring
I know where that depot will be in Kidderminster on Mill Street as I walk past it everytime I go into town. It will be in the old Renault Dealer/Garage which also has fueling facilities at the rear. It has recently been used and called the Mill Steet Trading Estate.
Yes a depot that I can walk on my journey into town.
Reece
when you are walking in to town which side of the road is it on and what is near it? is it before you get to the ideal building flats or after them near the ring road junction . it a street I do not use much so just can not place it. sounds like interesting times ahead. know bt used to have a big parking area there for the vehicles
Quote from: Cedric on March 13, 2015, 09:12:27 PM
Quote from: Reece on March 13, 2015, 08:12:40 PM
Quote from: Cedric on March 13, 2015, 07:38:26 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on March 13, 2015, 07:10:53 PM
i take it the depot will hold more than 4 buses as they may wish to run some services around Kidderminster /Worcester area along with 125
all I know it's 4 based there when it opens who knows what the future might bring
I know where that depot will be in Kidderminster on Mill Street as I walk past it everytime I go into town. It will be in the old Renault Dealer/Garage which also has fueling facilities at the rear. It has recently been used and called the Mill Steet Trading Estate.
Yes a depot that I can walk on my journey into town.
Reece
when you are walking in to town which side of the road is it on and what is near it? is it before you get to the ideal building flats or after them near the ring road junction . it a street I do not use much so just can not place it. sounds like interesting times ahead. know bt used to have a big parking area there for the vehicles
Its just down from the BT place, very near opposite the AGA shop - I think.
Yes interesting development - some of the ex Whittle drivers living locally must be fed of of commuting to Central's garage!
Quote from: StourportSam on March 13, 2015, 09:26:05 PM
Quote from: Cedric on March 13, 2015, 09:12:27 PM
Quote from: Reece on March 13, 2015, 08:12:40 PM
Quote from: Cedric on March 13, 2015, 07:38:26 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on March 13, 2015, 07:10:53 PM
i take it the depot will hold more than 4 buses as they may wish to run some services around Kidderminster /Worcester area along with 125
all I know it's 4 based there when it opens who knows what the future might bring
I know where that depot will be in Kidderminster on Mill Street as I walk past it everytime I go into town. It will be in the old Renault Dealer/Garage which also has fueling facilities at the rear. It has recently been used and called the Mill Steet Trading Estate.
Yes a depot that I can walk on my journey into town.
Reece
when you are walking in to town which side of the road is it on and what is near it? is it before you get to the ideal building flats or after them near the ring road junction . it a street I do not use much so just can not place it. sounds like interesting times ahead. know bt used to have a big parking area there for the vehicles
Its just down from the BT place, very near opposite the AGA shop - I think.
Yes interesting development - some of the ex Whittle drivers living locally must be fed of of commuting to Central's garage!
They didn't have to go to Central depot in Perry Barr, 3 of the 4 buses operated out of a yard in Lye
Quote from: StourportSam on March 13, 2015, 09:26:05 PM
Quote from: Cedric on March 13, 2015, 09:12:27 PM
Quote from: Reece on March 13, 2015, 08:12:40 PM
Quote from: Cedric on March 13, 2015, 07:38:26 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on March 13, 2015, 07:10:53 PM
i take it the depot will hold more than 4 buses as they may wish to run some services around Kidderminster /Worcester area along with 125
all I know it's 4 based there when it opens who knows what the future might bring
I know where that depot will be in Kidderminster on Mill Street as I walk past it everytime I go into town. It will be in the old Renault Dealer/Garage which also has fueling facilities at the rear. It has recently been used and called the Mill Steet Trading Estate.
Yes a depot that I can walk on my journey into town.
Reece
when you are walking in to town which side of the road is it on and what is near it? is it before you get to the ideal building flats or after them near the ring road junction . it a street I do not use much so just can not place it. sounds like interesting times ahead. know bt used to have a big parking area there for the vehicles
Its just down from the BT place, very near opposite the AGA shop - I think.
Yes interesting development - some of the ex Whittle drivers living locally must be fed of of commuting to Central's garage!
I know one ex whittle driver who is working for the already and is moving to work from Kidderminster , and another who went to work for WSNT , who is starting at central Kidderminster when it open he lives that close will be able to walk
With central open the Kidderminster depot will they move the 3 versa's over keeping 1 for the 16 in Tamworth &x73 service if so wonder if the spare will be a envrio
Quote from: Solo1 on March 14, 2015, 10:25:24 AM
With central open the Kidderminster depot will they move the 3 versa's over keeping 1 for the 16 in Tamworth &x73 service if so wonder if the spare will be a envrio
have seen a dart used more than once on the 125 so maybe a dart might be used as a spare. never seen a central enviro down here
Quote from: Winston on March 13, 2015, 09:32:20 PM
Quote from: StourportSam on March 13, 2015, 09:26:05 PM
Quote from: Cedric on March 13, 2015, 09:12:27 PM
Quote from: Reece on March 13, 2015, 08:12:40 PM
Quote from: Cedric on March 13, 2015, 07:38:26 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on March 13, 2015, 07:10:53 PM
i take it the depot will hold more than 4 buses as they may wish to run some services around Kidderminster /Worcester area along with 125
all I know it's 4 based there when it opens who knows what the future might bring
I know where that depot will be in Kidderminster on Mill Street as I walk past it everytime I go into town. It will be in the old Renault Dealer/Garage which also has fueling facilities at the rear. It has recently been used and called the Mill Steet Trading Estate.
Yes a depot that I can walk on my journey into town.
Reece
when you are walking in to town which side of the road is it on and what is near it? is it before you get to the ideal building flats or after them near the ring road junction . it a street I do not use much so just can not place it. sounds like interesting times ahead. know bt used to have a big parking area there for the vehicles
Its just down from the BT place, very near opposite the AGA shop - I think.
Yes interesting development - some of the ex Whittle drivers living locally must be fed of of commuting to Central's garage!
They didn't have to go to Central depot in Perry Barr, 3 of the 4 buses operated out of a yard in Lye
Yes, I meant the Lye one, was just thinking of one of the drivers I knew went to Central from Whittle lives in Bridgnorth so it would be easier for drivers living in that direction to just pop down the A442 to work like they used to.
Quote from: Cedric on March 14, 2015, 11:37:38 AM
Quote from: Solo1 on March 14, 2015, 10:25:24 AM
With central open the Kidderminster depot will they move the 3 versa's over keeping 1 for the 16 in Tamworth &x73 service if so wonder if the spare will be a envrio
have seen a dart used more than once on the 125 so maybe a dart might be used as a spare. never seen a central enviro down here
Yes both the 64 reg and one of the 12 reg Enviro 200s have been on the 125 before now.
https://flic.kr/p/qDLxuD (https://flic.kr/p/qDLxuD)
https://flic.kr/p/qW7DK3 (https://flic.kr/p/qW7DK3)
Saw a decker on the 89 (Erdington - Kingstanding) about midday, this usual? Seemed a bit overkill
PD1021409/66 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted: Operating between Tamworth, Corporation Street and Lichfield Bus Station given service number X55 effective from 04-May-2015. To amend Timetable.
PD1021409/71 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted: Operating between Lichfield Bus Station and Burntwood given service number 66 effective from 04-May-2015. To amend Timetable.
Here is Central Buses new Kidderminster Mill Street/Lane outstation opening on Monday.
https://www.facebook.com/centralbusesfans/photos/a.1511834132381839.1073741829.1509323025966283/1634127823485802/?type=1 (https://www.facebook.com/centralbusesfans/photos/a.1511834132381839.1073741829.1509323025966283/1634127823485802/?type=1)
Reece it's mill street central are in . mill lane is in the chester road south ,Worcester road area
anyone know what has been allocated to Kidderminster
Routemaster in West Brom bus station this afternoon
The painted Versa was on the 28E today
Quote from: John on April 01, 2015, 07:18:32 PM
The painted Versa was on the 28E today
that explains why I saw a dart on the
X73 tonight
Quote from: Cedric on March 27, 2015, 04:24:06 PM
anyone know what has been allocated to Kidderminster
Currently the 3 unpainted Optare Versa's at the moment Cedric these are..
[] YJ57XVT
[] YJ57XVX
[] YJ57XVY
Quote from: Reece on April 01, 2015, 10:42:48 PM
Currently the 3 unpainted Optare Versa's at the moment Cedric these are..
[] YJ57XVT
[] YJ57XVX
[] YJ57XVY
thanks reece
One of the Xpre55 buses YX63 ZXL is currently on the 28E
Mpd on the 125
Got my Work Experience sorted! Will be doing it here at Central Buses, Perry Barr depot.
saw 2 central buses at perry barr one stop today while onboard 51 to miller street
X233NNO was parked (presumably on crew duties)
Routemaster JJD411D on hire
LWB Dart (EU06 reg) on 125, did the 1515 departure off Stourbridge
What bus operates 75?
*Brand NEW* SK15GYA Enviro200 Has Joined Central Buses Fleet. This will help relieve the current issue where Central has not been able to repaint/refurbish any more Optare Versa's because they do not have enough buses.
https://www.facebook.com/centralbuses/photos/a.10151618821658733.1073741825.86436243732/10152849259508733/?type=1 (https://www.facebook.com/centralbuses/photos/a.10151618821658733.1073741825.86436243732/10152849259508733/?type=1)
Wonder how long before the 15 reg enters service
Quote from: Solo1 on April 23, 2015, 05:47:18 PM
Wonder how long before the 15 reg enters service
More than likely sometime next week.
Just been told SK15 GYA is either due today or Monday.
Quote from: Matt on April 10, 2015, 12:11:12 PM
Just seen a Versa on Hagley Road in Bearwood heading towards Kiddy
you mean a sperm bus? 8)
YJ57XVT on 75 today
Replacing SN04EFW on VOR
Quote from: Michael Bevan on April 24, 2015, 06:24:17 AM
Just been told SK15 GYA is either due today or Monday.
Out on the 75 today. Passed it in Walmley
BU12 LJO is on the 125 (Courtesy of
@Reece)
Central liveried Optaire YJ57 XVW out on the No.78 (Sutton-Streetly) today
Is a Trident on the 89 normal?
Quote from: Nathan on May 02, 2015, 12:23:46 PM
Is a Trident on the 89 normal?
One of the Tridents (Usually X233 NNO) does occasionally appear on the 89
Quote from: MNewport on May 02, 2015, 12:04:29 PM
Central liveried Optaire YJ57 XVW out on the No.78 (Sutton-Streetly) today
Optare on versa 74 in Walsall today no id as I was to far to I'd
Hoping to get the new central buses 15 reg envrio if any one sees it today
A 14 plate Enviro with a White LED Display was on the 74A today
Quote from: Solo1 on May 09, 2015, 06:32:59 AM
Hoping to get the new central buses 15 reg envrio if any one sees it today
It has been on the X73 over the last few days
On the 125 Today...
YJ57XVT - Optare Versa
YJ57XVW - Optare Versa *RARE*
EU06WGM - Dennis Pointer
Quote from: Reece on May 16, 2015, 09:36:21 PM
On the 125 Today...
YJ57XVT - Optare Versa
YJ57XVW - Optare Versa *RARE*
EU06WGM - Dennis Pointer
I was on dofe yesterday and as we approached the Kidderminster road I saw the pointer go past. That road is very busy
What buses do they put on 61?
Quote from: 3Q on May 14, 2015, 06:41:16 PM
It has been on the X73 over the last few days
here is the new bus on X73 https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/17966777212/in/dateposted-public/
Versa on the 66 today
On the 125 Yesterday...
YJ57XVX - Optare Versa
YJ57XVT - Optare Versa (I Think It Was)
EU06WGM - Dennis Pointer
Enviro 200 SK15 GYA on the 75 today (Isn't it usually branded E300's?)
Photo Here:
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/trident_4609/18079527358/
Quote from: Nathan on May 30, 2015, 06:21:14 PM
Enviro 200 SK15 GYA on the 75 today (Isn't it usually branded E300's?)
Photo Here:
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/trident_4609/18079527358/
it is
SN04EFM and SN04EFP are mostly allocated on 75
but SK15GYA and EU06JVW were on 75 most of day
@Nathan My Pic Of SK15GYA Passing M6 Bridge (Coleshill Heath Road , Chelmsey Wood)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/115199517@N06/18266626405/in/dateposted/
Might aswell plug me own photo of SK15 GYA: https://www.flickr.com/photos/97592007@N08/18243873886/in/dateposted-public/
Various other buses regularly appear on the 75 when an Enviro300 is not available
The allocation for the 125 on Monday is as follows...
YJ57XVX - Optare Versa
YJ57XVW - Optare Versa
EU06WGM - Dennis Pointer
Quote from: Reece on May 31, 2015, 03:13:40 PM
The allocation for the 125 on Monday is as follows...
YJ57XVX - Optare Versa
YJ57XVW - Optare Versa
EU06WGM - Dennis Pointer
the 125 seems to be doing well, every time i see it there is a healthy load!
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 31, 2015, 04:28:41 PM
the 125 seems to be doing well, every time i see it there is a healthy load!
I would say that the 125 is a good little money spinner for Central Buses.
28E withdrawn from 5/7/15
Quote from: DiamondDart on June 05, 2015, 04:28:51 PM
28E withdrawn from 5/7/15
Was hoping they'd keep it and extend to Scott Arms but that's just me dreaming
YJ57XVY - Optare Versa is the latest to have been refurbished and repainted but the LED destination blind is still in Orange rather than White like XVW. This bus will be operating on the 125 from tomorrow if anyone wants to see it.
The PVR for the 125 today is 4 buses this is due a driver route learning on one of the buses.
YJ57XVT - Optare Versa
MX56HYA - Dennis Pointer
EU06WGM - Dennis Pointer
EU06KPA - Dennis Dart MPD
Quote from: Reece on June 13, 2015, 05:06:56 PM
The PVR for the 125 today is 4 buses this is due a driver route learning on one of the buses.
YJ57XVT - Optare Versa
MX56HYA - Dennis Pointer
EU06WGM - Dennis Pointer
EU06KPA - Dennis Dart MPD
The PVR is always 4 buses on a Saturday
Anyone noticed what is available on the X73/16 now... :)
Quote from: the trainbasher on June 13, 2015, 06:34:52 PM
Anyone noticed what is available on the X73/16 now... :)
15 plate ?
Quote from: the trainbasher on June 13, 2015, 06:34:52 PM
Anyone noticed what is available on the X73/16 now... :)
Wi-Fi, if i had to hazard a guess...
Does anybody know what the patronage is like on the 16 in Tamworth?
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Stourbridge Bus Station and Bridgnorth given service number 125 effective from 27-Jul-2015. To amend Timetable.
Quote from: Alex on June 13, 2015, 09:46:23 PM
Wi-Fi, if i had to hazard a guess...
Did see an E200 coming into town this morning on the X73 displaying WiFi stickers, at first I thought it was a Xpre55 bus but there was no other branding
This looks good for X73
http://www.tamworthherald.co.uk/Free-bus-travel-Birmingham-Tamworth-commuters/story-26742767-detail/story.html
The rear blind on SK15GYA has come loose from its fittings from what I can tell. Saw it yesterday
Just about to start my Work Experience at Central.
Versa YJ59 XVX arrived back from repaint yesterday. The last Versa to be repainted.
BU12LJO E200 on 75
Vinyls now applied to XVX. Should be on the road in a matter of days.
RCL2220 going on 40!
Quote from: Michael Bevan on July 09, 2015, 09:10:35 PM
Vinyls now applied to XVX. Should be on the road in a matter of days.
Is that for 125?
EU06 WGM operating on the 125 this week, might have replaced MX56 HYA, or a Versa?
Quote from: StourportSam on July 14, 2015, 08:14:54 PM
EU06 WGM operating on the 125 this week, might have replaced MX56 HYA, or a Versa?
HYA came back to Perry Barr last week. Also XVW and XVX are up here too. XVX is due to go to Kidderminster and XVT is coming up to get the blinds fixed.
Sounds like X233 NNO has finally had it. Apparently smoke is pouring out of the engine. Looks like it will be scrapped. :(
They can put an new engine in the decker rather than scrap it
Quote from: Solo1 on July 16, 2015, 02:10:21 PM
They can put an new engine in the decker rather than scrap it
The staff in the office earlier were talking about scrapping it.
will they be having an other decker to replace this
Quote from: Solo1 on July 16, 2015, 04:11:48 PM
will they be having an other decker to replace this
They'll probably use the money they get from scrapping it to get another.
Good news is it appears to be moving now.
Every time i seem to go to west bromwich that trident is always there, what routes are the tridents used for?
Quote from: Chris on July 16, 2015, 07:15:25 PM
Every time i seem to go to west bromwich that trident is always there, what routes are the tridents used for?
X233 NNO goes on the 88
Smoke is normal on an older diesel, usually indicates a boost pipe leaking
Thanks To
@Michael Bevan For Info
Trident X233NNO has left CB and gone to PVS in Barnsley
?
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on July 22, 2015, 08:32:08 AM
@The Fox 4846
CB are receiving 2 Mercedes Citaros
as @Michael Bevan said first one is due today
Presumably second hand examples, there are certainly some ex Yourbus and London ones available :p
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on July 21, 2015, 01:55:13 PM
Thanks To @Michael Bevan For Info
Trident X233NNO has left CB and gone to PVS in Barnsley
Funny that, because I seen it today in Walsall....
Quote from: BU07 LGO on July 22, 2015, 02:15:18 PM
Funny that, because I seen it today in Walsall....
I did too and I deleted my post. Need to have a word with the engineer who told me that.
Where can I find SK15 GYA
Quote from: Rhys S on July 23, 2015, 09:58:57 PM
Where can I find SK15 GYA
The 16 in Tamworth in the daytime and the peak time only X73 from Birmingham (5.16pm from Corporation St)
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on July 22, 2015, 08:32:08 AM
@The Fox 4846
CB are receiving 2 Mercedes Citaros
as @Michael Bevan said first one is due today
what service are the citaros going to going on to
Quote from: Solo1 on July 24, 2015, 07:06:31 AM
what service are the citaros going to going on to
@Solo1 they will be on 75 (Birmingham International-Sutton Coldfield)
What's happening with the enviro 300's?
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on July 24, 2015, 09:50:44 AM
What's happening with the enviro 300's?
There being sold to Diamond Bus apparently.
When will they be in service?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 24, 2015, 05:13:06 PM
When will they be in service?
Central Buses Citaro's haven't even arrived yet
I'm going to double check my information. After being told X233 has been scrapped when it was actually still in service, I need to look into this more. I'm starting to think someone is pulling my leg. Apologies guys.
Where can I find Trident X602EGK?
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on July 27, 2015, 07:40:57 PM
Where can I find Trident X602EGK?
Either in the depot or on reliefs.
Are the Versas the usual type on the 125 and how many of them are used on the route?
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on July 29, 2015, 05:15:05 PM
Are the Versas the usual type on the 125 and how many of them are used on the route?
3 or 4 but I think 3
Ok thanks Rhys
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on July 29, 2015, 05:15:05 PM
Are the Versas the usual type on the 125 and how many of them are used on the route?
Hi mate
@Dylanbusboy45 Yes Versas are the usual allocation on the 125 Mon-Fri 3 buses are allocated to the route. But on Saturdays the allocation is 4 buses so this can mean a Plaxton Pointer running or Dennis Dart MPD being allocated mate. :)
Sorry for the late reply mate but thanks Reece for the info. Went to Stourbridge today and saw and photographed Versas YJ57XVY/XVT/XVX in that order. I was hoping to see the Versas as I prefer them over Darts and I did. :)
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on July 30, 2015, 04:27:05 PM
Sorry for the late reply mate but thanks Reece for the info. Went to Stourbridge today and saw and photographed Versas YJ57XVY/XVT/XVX in that order. I was hoping to see the Versas as I prefer them over Darts and I did. :)
Well done
Thanks!
PD1021409/71 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Lichfield Bus Station and Burntwood given service number 66 effective from 07-Sep-2015. To amend Timetable.
PD1021409/74 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted: Operating between Tamworth and Park Hall Academy given service number 16 effective from 07-Sep-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
Quote from: Winston on July 31, 2015, 11:42:55 AM
PD1021409/71 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Lichfield Bus Station and Burntwood given service number 66 effective from 07-Sep-2015. To amend Timetable.
PD1021409/74 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted: Operating between Tamworth and Park Hall Academy given service number 16 effective from 07-Sep-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
I wonder what will happen to the 66 route when Arrivas changes kick in. This change of timetable is obviously to try and counter act that.
What routes do SK15GYA and YX64VLZ do? They are the only Central Buses I have not seen before.
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on August 03, 2015, 04:46:38 PM
What routes do SK15GYA and YX64VLZ do? They are the only Central Buses I have not seen before.
SK15GYA is usually found on the X73 Birmingham City Centre to Frazeley and the 16 Tamworth to Kingsbury.
Ok thanks mate. :)
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on August 03, 2015, 04:46:38 PM
What routes do SK15GYA and YX64VLZ do? They are the only Central Buses I have not seen before.
YX64VLZ I've seen in walsall on 74a
YX63ZXL and YX63ZXK on the X55 today as they should be and SK15GYA on the 16/X73 as it usually is.
BU12LJO - Enviro200 has made a rather rare appearance on the 125 this evening.
The allocation for the 125 today...
BU12LJO - Enviro200
YJ57XVX - Optare Versa
YJ57XVT - Optare Versa
Quote from: Reece on August 12, 2015, 06:25:13 PM
The allocation for the 125 today...
BU12LJO - Enviro200
YJ57XVX - Optare Versa
YJ57XVT - Optare Versa
Enviro 200 has been on there the last few days. I always thought the 125 worked well with Whittles 56 and 57 plate E200s.
Xpre55 branded YX63 ZXL is currently parked up at One Stop, presumably as staff bus. Bit of a waste of a branded bus if you ask me
Quote from: Kevin on August 15, 2015, 02:34:27 PM
Xpre55 branded YX63 ZXL is currently parked up at One Stop, presumably as staff bus. Bit of a waste of a branded bus if you ask me
it might if had a fault this morning & been fixed so sent it out
For a staff bus also advertising the service in Lichfield /tamworth
Updated list for operating routes.
16 (Kingsbury-Tamworth via Ventura Park)
30 (West Bromwich-Stone Cross via Great Bridge)
35B (Walsall-Lichfield via Aldridge)
39 (Great Barr-St Francis of Assisi School via Streetly) Schooldays only
40 (Great Barr-St Francis of Assisi School via Hamstead) Schooldays only
61 (Perry Barr-Bearwood via Handsworth)
66 (Lichfield-Burntwood via Chase Terrace)
74 (Gillity Village-Walsall via Chuckery)
74A (West Bromwich-Dudley via Great Bridge)
75 (International Station-Sutton Coldfield via Coleshill) includes route 75A
78 (Sutton Coldfield-Streetly via Mere Green)
88 (Erdington-Streetly via Kingstanding)
89 (Erdington-Old Oscott via Kingstanding)
125 (Stourbridge-Bridgnorth via Kidderminster)
696 Castle Vale Circular
X55 (Tamworth-Lichfield) Fast along the A51
X73 (Tamworth Estate Atherstone Street-Birmingham ) Fast along the M6 and M32
Dart EU06KPA on 74 today
Quote from: StourportSam on August 12, 2015, 09:42:58 PM
Enviro 200 has been on there the last few days. I always thought the 125 worked well with Whittles 56 and 57 plate E200s.
@StourportSam I did think that my self in till a exWhittle driver told me they weren't in a very good state.
Quote from: Reece on August 25, 2015, 07:54:20 PM
@StourportSam I did think that my self in till a exWhittle driver told me they weren't in a very good state.
Yeah the Whittle E200s, especially the 56 plate ones, were of pretty poor build quality.
X602 EGK is on the 89.
KV51KZL is making a rare appearance on the 125 today.
Quote from: Reece on August 28, 2015, 05:22:52 PM
KV51KZL is making a rare appearance on the 125 today.
Still on it today.
The allocation for the 125 yesterday...
BU12LJO - Enviro200
YJ57XVT - Optare Versa
YJ57XVW - Optare Versa
MX56HYA - Dennis Pointer
The allocation for the 125 from Monday...
BU12LJO - Enviro200
YJ57XVT - Optare Versa
MX56HYA - Dennis Pointer
where are the other versa as I thought the versa's were for the 125 service
Quote from: Solo1 on September 13, 2015, 04:01:38 PM
where are the other versa as I thought the versa's were for the 125 service
@Solo1 The Versa's are for the 125 but being exTransdev Blazefield means their Cummins engines have had a hard life because they have been thrashed a lot. The 125 is also a teat for any kind of bus due to the poor road conditions and the country lanes means they get a lot of damage.
XVT is back in Kiddy and is the second best out of the 4 Versa's.
XVW has gone back to Perry Barr for some light repair work.
XVX and XVW over heat when on the 125 because of the hilly nature of the route. XVX is at Perry Barr currently.
XVY is having some major engine repairs at Perry Barr.
Why would being ex Transdev mean that they have been "thrashed a lot"?! They were used on Starships urban routes in Burnley! Most operators find ex Transdev buses extremely reliable and in excellent condition!
Quote from: DiamondDart on September 13, 2015, 04:35:54 PM
Why would being ex Transdev mean that they have been "thrashed a lot"?! They were used on Starships urban routes in Burnley! Most operators find ex Transdev buses extremely reliable and in excellent condition!
@DiamondDart Yeah very hilly Burnley with a lot of steep banks so that's why they have been thrashed or taken to the max then.
Quote from: Reece on September 13, 2015, 04:56:20 PM
@DiamondDart Yeah very hilly Burnley with a lot of steep banks so that's why they have been thrashed or taken to the max then.
Amazing how many 'fleet engineers' there are now who know the condition of buses without even inspecting them.
When will all 4 versa be back at Kidderminster if anyone knows
Quote from: Solo1 on September 14, 2015, 10:00:27 AM
When will all 4 versa be back at Kidderminster if anyone knows
@Solo1 It's hard to say at the moment because of the current issues especially with XVW and XVX overheating from time to time on the Bridgnorth - Bewdley section of the 125.
I find that very hard to believe
@Reece. Very hard indeed
Quote from: the trainbasher on September 14, 2015, 12:24:21 PM
I find that very hard to believe @Reece. Very hard indeed
I think exactly same as you trainbasher. at onetime whittles used solos on that route and they had no trouble , that route. this was pre EYMS days they sent them up to Yorkshire.
Quote from: the trainbasher on September 14, 2015, 12:24:21 PM
I find that very hard to believe @Reece. Very hard indeed
In the ideal world XVT, XVX and XVY would be allocated to Kiddy during the week. And on Saturdays when the PVR is 4 buses XVW would come down from Perry Barr and then go back at the end of its shift.
I have just been informed there should be a Optare Solo (small) on the 125 tomorrow if anyone wants to get a picture.
Quote from: Reece on September 18, 2015, 09:47:11 PM
I have just been informed there should be a Optare Solo (small) on the 125 tomorrow if anyone wants to get a picture.
how long do they have the solo for
Quote from: Reece on September 18, 2015, 09:47:11 PM
I have just been informed there should be a Optare Solo (small) on the 125 tomorrow if anyone wants to get a picture.
Around What Time in Stour tomorrow pls
@Reece
Quote from: Solo1 on September 18, 2015, 09:49:28 PM
how long do they have the solo for
It will probably only be on tomorrow
Quote from: RS on September 18, 2015, 09:54:16 PM
Around What Time in Stour tomorrow pls @Reece
I don't know which rota the Solo is allocated to.
Quote from: Reece on September 18, 2015, 09:47:11 PM
I have just been informed there should be a Optare Solo (small) on the 125 tomorrow if anyone wants to get a picture.
I passed a solo in Hagley around 15.30 to 15.45 heading towards Kidderminster. Can't remember which one it was. Could've been PKA but not 100%
XVX, XVW and XVY on the 125 ... No Solo!
I have been informed the Solo went back to Perry Barr early this morning.
XVT broke down in Bewdley on Friday, 1345 from Bridgnorth.
Saw a dennis dart and versa in stourbridge at 4 change vehicle?
Quote from: Chris on September 19, 2015, 10:57:38 PM
Saw a dennis dart and versa in stourbridge at 4 change vehicle?
Dennis dart came down manor way about 15:50
YJ57XVW Versa
made a appearance on 75 today with a EU06 Dart
Does anyone know what they changes are to the 66 route?? I wondered if it will come past my house or not?
MPD on the 125 yesterday
Quote from: LG on September 30, 2015, 03:06:12 PM
Does anyone know what they changes are to the 66 route?? I wondered if it will come past my house or not?
Timing changes only, no route change to the 66.
Oh just I saw the registration and it says route and timetable change
MX56HYA on 74 today.
Spotted JJD411D in Cotteridge at 10:00 and again in Birmingham at around 16:35
XVT was on 75 yesterday
PD1021409/65 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Perry Barr and Aldridge given service number 39 effective from 19-Oct-2015. To amend Timetable.
PD1021409/74 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Tamworth and Kingsbury School given service number 16/16S effective from 02-Nov-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
Versa on the X73 this morning. Just seen it arriving into Birmingham. Should be on the 16 and then the X73 this evening.
EU06 KPA is on the 35B today. Usually a Solo.
RML2411 is on reliefs today.
EU06WGM on rail rep from Walsall
RML2411 is on the 40/relief.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on November 02, 2015, 07:45:46 AM
RML2411 is on the 40/relief.
Bahaaaaahahahaha!
Routemaster on a school route!
Quote from: Kevin on November 02, 2015, 07:54:39 AM
Bahaaaaahahahaha!
Routemaster on a school route!
It happened whilst I was on my
Work Experience and also on Friday.
PD1021409/71 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted: Operating between Lichfield Bus Station and Burntwood given service number 66 effective from 24-Dec-2015. To amend Timetable.
PD1021409/57 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Castle Vale, Tangmere Drive and Castle Vale, Tangmere Drive given service number 696 effective from 04-Jan-2016.
PD1021409/64 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted: Operating between Great Barr and Aldridge given service number 40 effective from 04-Jan-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.
PD1021409/66 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted: Operating between Tamworth, Corporation Street and Lichfield Bus Station given service number X55 effective from 04-Jan-2016. To amend Timetable.
PD1021409/75 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted: Operating between Fazeley and Birmingham, Priory Queensway given service number X16 effective from 04-Jan-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.
Quote from: Solo1 on November 16, 2015, 11:27:12 AM
PD1021409/57 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Castle Vale, Tangmere Drive and Castle Vale, Tangmere Drive given service number 696 effective from 04-Jan-2016.
PD1021409/75 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted: Operating between Fazeley and Birmingham, Priory Queensway given service number X16 effective from 04-Jan-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.
They're getting rid of the 696? Also what is happening with the X73?
Quote from: Michael Bevan on November 16, 2015, 12:27:43 PM
They're getting rid of the 696? Also what is happening with the X73?
X16 replacing X73, timetable and route changed, still the 1 return journey M-F.
JJD 411D just passed me in Coventry.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on November 16, 2015, 12:27:43 PM
They're getting rid of the 696? Also what is happening with the X73?
@Michael Bevan 2. PD1021409/78 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Castle Vale, Sainsburys
Finish Point: Castle Vale, Sainsburys
Via: Tangmere Drive, Cadbury Drive
Service Number: 696
Service Type: Hail & Ride
Effective Date: 04-JAN-2016
Other Details: Monday to Friday
Quote from: Solo1 on November 04, 2015, 03:51:44 PM
PD1021409/71 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted: Operating between Lichfield Bus Station and Burntwood given service number 66 effective from 24-Dec-2015. To amend Timetable.
All saturday services cancelled from 24th December I believe
66 branded Dart on the 125 today (01/12/15)
EU06WGM on X55 today I'm told.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on December 02, 2015, 07:18:56 PM
EU06WGM on X55 today I'm told.
Back in Kidderminster today (03/12) on the 125
Been told of Facebook
Enviro 200 YX63ZXK is being withdrawn due to major chassis crack
Are central going to buy a new bus for X55 then?
Quote from: James4368 on December 04, 2015, 05:25:30 PM
Been told of Facebook
Enviro 200 YX63ZXK is being withdrawn due to major chassis crack
Are Central covered by a warranty on the vehicle?
Quote from: James4368 on December 04, 2015, 05:25:30 PM
Been told of Facebook
Enviro 200 YX63ZXK is being withdrawn due to major chassis crack
ZXK actually had a collision with an Arriva vehicle. It's not being scrapped.
Quote from: LG on November 27, 2015, 08:33:55 PM
All saturday services cancelled from 24th December I believe
http://www.centralbuses.com/news/revised-timetable-service-66-thursday-24th-december/
Two early morning journey's withdrawn too! :(
what routes do CB mostly allocate Enviro 200's on?
16/74A/X55/X73 are some routes that use Enviro 200s
@James4368
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on December 07, 2015, 06:33:21 PM
16/74A/X55/X73 are some routes that use Enviro 200s @James4368
Also the 30 and 78. Sometimes the Walsall 74.
X55 branded bus on the 75 today. Seen it at Birmingham Business Park.
Quote from: Dutsey on December 14, 2015, 10:59:04 AM
X55 branded bus on the 75 today. Seen it at Birmingham Business Park.
It was YX63ZXL, managed to ride on it into Sutton. The front destination display was faulty, just displaying "757575757 ..." :D
LJO was on the 125 yesterday
X233 NNO is apparently on tonight's X73.
X233 NNO is on the 75 today.
YJ57XVX was rear ended by a car yesterday evening on the 125 whether it's a write off or can be repaired I don't know although it sounded quite bad from what I was told
Two new School Services.
Section 3.1 – Registration of New Services
PD1021409/79
CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM B42 2TX
From: Handsworth, Villa Cross
To: Q3 Academy
Via: Hamstead
Name or No: 41
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 05-Feb-2016
Other Details: Monday to Friday, one return journey
PD1021409/80
CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIALESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM B42 2TX
From: Handsworth, Booth Street
To: Q3 Academy
Via: West Bromwich, Stone Cross, Yew Tree
Name or No: 42
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 05-Feb-2016
Other Details: Monday to Friday, one return journey
RML on the 696 this afternoon.
AE06ZBT ON 125 SERVICE just left Stourbridge
New addition to Central's fleet
PN03ULV Dennis Trident President ( Ex Suffolk Norse 7163)
Thanks to
@Michael Bevan for heads up
Quote from: James4368 on January 05, 2016, 04:08:04 PM
New addition to Central's fleet
PN03ULV Dennis Trident President ( Ex Suffolk Norse 7163)
Thanks to @Michael Bevan for heads up
Kept it quiet until now. 2 more are due soon.
Quote from: James4368 on January 05, 2016, 04:08:04 PM
New addition to Central's fleet
PN03ULV Dennis Trident President ( Ex Suffolk Norse 7163)
Thanks to @Michael Bevan for heads up
Could possibly be for the 2 new school services?
Quote from: Adam 404 on January 05, 2016, 04:52:33 PM
Could possibly be for the 2 new school services?
Replacing X233 NNO and X602 EGK.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on January 05, 2016, 05:11:10 PM
Replacing X233 NNO and X602 EGK.
Dont suppose these two will do normal services before departing will they? Hopefully but inevitably unlikely.
In other news, I now own KV51 KZL's side roller blinds! Due to DDA Regulations, all of their Dart's have Centrad displays on the side and back so I was given the blind! By the way, some of you might know why I have 33 on it. ;)
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on January 05, 2016, 06:44:04 PM
Dont suppose these two will do normal services before departing will they? Hopefully but inevitably unlikely.
EGK in West Brom today
Quote from: Michael Bevan on January 05, 2016, 05:11:10 PM
Replacing X233 NNO and X602 EGK.
Why are these getting replaced?
Quote from: John on January 05, 2016, 08:57:02 PM
Why are these getting replaced?
Non DDA compliant??
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 05, 2016, 09:00:20 PM
Non DDA compliant??
Getting sorted 12 months early potentially! Central Buses have always been very on the ball with getting the fleet sorted for DDA, it's been compliant for a few years now well in advance of deadline for single deckers!
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on January 05, 2016, 06:44:04 PM
Dont suppose these two will do normal services before departing will they? Hopefully but inevitably unlikely.
They have a load of time before they need to be off the road. I've been told February half term though but there's a chance they might keep them for a bit longer. They do normal services daily. One of the deckers does the 16:45 88 from Erdington to Streetly daily.
Don't know if it's been reported elsewhere but apparently with Central Buses Swift can even be used on services out of the NWM area!
Quote from: DiamondDart on January 06, 2016, 09:54:01 PM
Don't know if it's been reported elsewhere but apparently with Central Buses Swift can even be used on services out of the NWM area!
https://www.facebook.com/centralbuses/photos/a.10150116885558733.281830.86436243732/10153308282278733/?type=3&theater
I'm told the other two Trident's are ready to collect. They are just waiting for drivers to become available who they will then send down to collect them.
RCL2220 is up for sale. http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/1965-Routemaster-Double-Decker-Bus-Ex-London-RCL2220-/131696032959?nav=SEARCH
From what I've been told, Central's second Trident should be arriving tomorrow.
Second Trident en route.
@Michael Bevan i think i just seen it pull in the industrial estate about 5 mins ago
Quote from: Chris on January 09, 2016, 03:28:52 PM
@Michael Bevan i think i just seen it pull in the industrial estate about 5 mins ago
Yes you did.
PN03 ULU is the second one they have recieved. Just arrived and has been going around the estate on a test run.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on January 09, 2016, 04:17:09 PM
PN03 ULU is the second one they have recieved. Just arrived and has been going around the estate on a test run.
Ex Suffolk Norse 7162
YJ57XVT on 75 today
Route 66 branded (Lichfield - Chase Terrace - Burntwood) AE06 ZBR seen well off its branded route on the 125 (Stourbridge - Kidderminster - Bridgnorth)
Quote from: ade on January 14, 2016, 08:49:21 PM
Route 66 branded (Lichfield - Chase Terrace - Burntwood) AE06 ZBR seen well off its branded route on the 125 (Stourbridge - Kidderminster - Bridgnorth)
It's been at Kidderminster on and off for about 3 weeks I've been told by a source that alledgly it's going to be de-branded and permanently allocated to Kidderminster
Quote from: Will on January 14, 2016, 09:06:00 PM
It's been at Kidderminster on and off for about 3 weeks I've been told by a source that alledgly it's going to be de-branded and permanently allocated to Kidderminster
Are Darts proving better suited to the 125 than the Versas?
Quote from: DiamondDart on January 14, 2016, 09:08:13 PM
Are Darts proving better suited to the 125 than the Versas?
According to my source Geoff Cross has said that he doesn't want the Versa's being used in Kidderminster anymore as they are getting very battered on the 125
What will the Versa's be used if not on 125
Quote from: Solo1 on January 14, 2016, 09:49:20 PM
What will the Versa's be used if not on 125
Well all sorts Mark like for example I know they have been used on the following routes previously;
* 75 (Sutton Coldfield - Coleshill - Birmingham International)
* 66 (Burntwood - Lichfield)
Quote from: Solo1 on January 14, 2016, 09:49:20 PM
What will the Versa's be used if not on 125
They are usually used on the 16 (Tamworth-Kingsbury), 88/89 (Erdington-Streetly/Kingstanding), 78 (Sutton Coldfield-Streetly) and I'd suspect the 41 (Handsworth-Q3 Academy) since single deckers operate the 41. Although Versa's drift off onto other routes like the 66 (Lichfield-Burntwood), 75 (Sutton Coldfield-Birmingham International) and the X16 (Belgrave-Birmingham).
Quote from: Michael Bevan on January 15, 2016, 11:54:18 AM
They are usually used on the 16 (Tamworth-Kingsbury), 88/89 (Erdington-Streetly/Kingstanding), 78 (Sutton Coldfield-Streetly) and I'd suspect the 41 (Handsworth-Q3 Academy) since single deckers operate the 41. Although Versa's drift off onto other routes like the 66 (Lichfield-Burntwood), 75 (Sutton Coldfield-Birmingham International) and the X16 (Belgrave-Birmingham).
Thanks
@Michael Bevan - I knew they were used on 66 & 75 just wasn't sure about the others 😊
Quote from: Michael Bevan on January 15, 2016, 11:54:18 AM
They are usually used on the 16 (Tamworth-Kingsbury), 88/89 (Erdington-Streetly/Kingstanding), 78 (Sutton Coldfield-Streetly) and I'd suspect the 41 (Handsworth-Q3 Academy) since single deckers operate the 41. Although Versa's drift off onto other routes like the 66 (Lichfield-Burntwood), 75 (Sutton Coldfield-Birmingham International) and the X16 (Belgrave-Birmingham).
I thought X16 & 66 & 75 all had branded buses on there
Quote from: Solo1 on January 15, 2016, 12:46:59 PM
I thought X16 & 66 & 75 all had branded buses on there
X16 comes off the 16 anyway
Quote from: Kevin on January 15, 2016, 06:33:15 PM
X16 comes off the 16 anyway
Usually SK15 GYA is allocated onto the X16 board.
X233 NNO on the 89 all day today.
versa on rail replacement
RCL2220 has been sold. It will be leaving some time next week.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on January 19, 2016, 09:04:32 PM
RCL2220 has been sold. It will be leaving some time next week.
@Michael Bevan - It actually has? as on the eBay listing it said the reserve hadn't been met ::)
BU12 LJO - not an unusual working
AE06 ZBT - not an unusual working
YX64 VLZ - unusual working (shame it couldn't of been the 15-reg!)
have all been on 125 today (19/01)
YJ59 PKC (Solo) on the 75!
SK15GYA will be on rail rep between Walsall and Rugeley tomorrow
Thanks to
@Michael Bevan for info
Quote from: James4368 on January 23, 2016, 06:25:37 PM
SK15GYA will be on rail rep between Walsall and Rugeley tomorrow
Thanks to @Michael Bevan for info
Between what times
@RS I don't know
just refer to times of rail buses here - http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/search/advanced/WSL/2016/01/24/0600-2000?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt
SK15 GYA was apparently blocked in at the depot so YJ57 XVT is on Rail Replacement instead.
Quote from: RS on January 23, 2016, 07:12:57 PM
Between what times
XVT will start on the 9:47 from Tame Bridge Parkway to Walsall then do those runs until 11:03 when it'll do a Rugeley Trent Valley.
Anyone wanting to have a ride or photograph XVT, here are the timings.
Versa on X73 tonight
Route66 branded dart is in Kidderminster atm on the 125
Quote from: Kevin on January 30, 2016, 08:45:26 AM
Route66 branded dart is in Kidderminster atm on the 125
That's nothing new it's been in Kiddy for about 2 months
66 branded AE06 ZBT is on the 74.
I have just been told that an Enviro 200 MMC demonstrator will be arriving at Central Buses on the 21st of March.
what time are the crew buses at perry barr 1 stop & west brom bus station for the drivers breaks
SK15 GYA ON Rail Replacement between Tame Bridge and Walsall
Was yesterday between Wsl and RTV
Quote from: Busman Jamie on January 31, 2016, 10:51:00 PM
Was yesterday between Wsl and RTV
Saturday's is Walsall to Rugley
Sunday is Tame Bridge Walsall Rugsley
Yes I know, but was stating that the same bus you mentioned being on Sunday rail rep was also on Saturday
EU06 JVW in Kidderminster bus station just now
Quote from: StourportSam on February 03, 2016, 04:17:09 PM
EU06 JVW in Kidderminster bus station just now
Again? Steering must of broke on it again
X233 NNO has had it's Centrad blinds removed and is being prepared for withdrawal. X602 EGK should have it's Centrad blinds removed soon too.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on February 03, 2016, 08:43:43 PM
X233 NNO has had it's Centrad blinds removed and is being prepared for withdrawal. X602 EGK should have it's Centrad blinds removed soon too.
What route can I find these on?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 03, 2016, 08:45:28 PM
What route can I find these on?
If the blinds are being removed and the buses prepared for withdrawal, you probably won't find them on any public service now. ;D
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 03, 2016, 08:45:28 PM
What route can I find these on?
Mainly does the 39, 40 and I think the 41 or 42 school run. One does the 16:45 88 from Erdington daily which would be your best bet.
Quote from: Stu on February 03, 2016, 08:48:06 PM
If the blinds are being removed and the buses prepared for withdrawal, you probably won't find them on any public service now. ;D
They still have a few weeks until Central plan to withdraw them.
Xpre55 e200 in Walsall on 74
BU12LJO is on 75 today
The things you learn.... Looking through Tony's photos of Central Buses and I remember most of them from their days on the 7, but never remember them having a Lance and an Excel, both in fleet livery as well! See even back then they were doing it kinda right
Quote from: Kevin on February 06, 2016, 08:32:24 PM
The things you learn.... Looking through Tony's photos of Central Buses and I remember most of them from their days on the 7, but never remember them having a Lance and an Excel, both in fleet livery as well! See even back then they were doing it kinda right
I remember them on the 33 with marshall darts!
Are the Routemasters still in *public* use, out of interest? They're allocated to the 88, aren't they?
Quote from: clayderman on February 07, 2016, 08:34:16 PM
Are the Routemasters still in *public* use, out of interest? They're allocated to the 88, aren't they?
Central Bus now only own 1 Routemaster now as they sold the other last month
Quote from: clayderman on February 07, 2016, 08:34:16 PM
Are the Routemasters still in *public* use, out of interest? They're allocated to the 88, aren't they?
Have been used on public services yes, wouldn't say it's been "allocated" on a route
Quote from: Will on February 07, 2016, 08:54:00 PM
Central Bus now only own 1 Routemaster now as they sold the other last month
Quote from: Kevin on February 07, 2016, 08:57:01 PM
Have been used on public services yes, wouldn't say it's been "allocated" on a route
Ah, so the scarcity of Central Buses' RMs are down to one. :( Thanks for the info, guys! :)
You wouldn't know, by any chance, which route it'll be likely to appear on; or is it just a gamble? ???
Quote from: clayderman on February 07, 2016, 09:51:36 PM
Ah, so the scarcity of Central Buses' RMs are down to one. :( Thanks for the info, guys! :)
You wouldn't know, by any chance, which route it'll be likely to appear on; or is it just a gamble? ???
They've put it/them on many routes in the past, even the 40 school bus and the Castle Vale hopper thing. Just gotta keep an eye on them on facebook to be honest
Quote from: clayderman on February 07, 2016, 09:51:36 PM
Ah, so the scarcity of Central Buses' RMs are down to one. :( Thanks for the info, guys! :)
You wouldn't know, by any chance, which route it'll be likely to appear on; or is it just a gamble? ???
They sometimes venture onto the school buses so I would say on the 39, 40 or 41.
I thought the castle Vale hoper was withdrawn due to funding
for the service finishing unless central running it with out funding
Quote from: Solo1 on February 08, 2016, 09:10:50 AM
I thought the castle Vale hoper was withdrawn due to funding
for the service finishing unless central running it with out funding
No it still operates.
http://jp.networkwestmidlands.com/centro/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&hideBannerInfo=1&command=direct&line=10696&net=cen&project=y11&sup=%20&lineVer=4&itdLPxx_direction=H&itdLPxx_line=10696&itdLPxx_net=cen&itdLPxx_project=y11&itdLPxx_sup=%20&itdLPxx_lineVer=4&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_debug=
Quote from: 2206 on February 08, 2016, 04:48:49 PM
No it still operates.
http://jp.networkwestmidlands.com/centro/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&hideBannerInfo=1&command=direct&line=10696&net=cen&project=y11&sup=%20&lineVer=4&itdLPxx_direction=H&itdLPxx_line=10696&itdLPxx_net=cen&itdLPxx_project=y11&itdLPxx_sup=%20&itdLPxx_lineVer=4&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_debug=
It was only a few PM journeys that were cut, not the whole service.
Quote from: RS on February 08, 2016, 06:45:08 PM
PN03 UMJ
Just a reminder copyright is mine
When did you go to central buses?
PN03 UMJ
BU12 LJO back on the 125 today
Routemaster on the 39 today
Versa and a president on 66 yesterday
A Route 66 branded Dart on 74 today.
YJ57 XVX back at depot today not to be in use til after half term
Quote from: RS on February 10, 2016, 07:05:45 PM
YJ57 XVX back at depot today not to be in use til after half term
That's the one that was involved in an RTC on the 125
Quote from: Will on February 10, 2016, 07:22:21 PM
That's the one that was involved in an RTC on the 125
I'm aware
@Will i was actually in the depot when it arrived
A Bit more news !!! 8)
AE06 ZBT has lost its route 66 branding
here is a pic
Quote from: RS on February 10, 2016, 07:55:34 PM
A Bit more news !!! 8)
AE06 ZBT has lost its route 66 branding
here is a pic
That looks a lot better :)
YJ57 XVX is back in Kidderminster today (12/02)
This makes the total Versa's at Kiddy to 3
YJ57 XVT
YJ57 XVX
YJ57 XVY
just been on the central website . see there advertising
for drivers for both Birmingham and Kidderminster depots
did not think they would need any at Kidderminster
with it just the 125 running .as it seams not to have
any gaps .
Quote from: Cedric on February 25, 2016, 11:04:05 PM
just been on the central website . see there advertising
for drivers for both Birmingham and Kidderminster depots
did not think they would need any at Kidderminster
with it just the 125 running .as it seams not to have
any gaps .
Driver Retiring / leaving? Expanding there Kidderminster services?
Quote from: Adam 404 on February 26, 2016, 04:03:54 PM
Driver Retiring / leaving? Expanding there Kidderminster services?
They are always in need of drivers. The problem is that the wage is too low which means drivers turn to companies like NX with higher wages.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on February 27, 2016, 08:06:18 AM
They are always in need of drivers. The problem is that the wage is too low which means drivers turn to companies like NX with higher wages.
Or those in the blue (i.e. Diamond)
From what I heard from an ex-driver is that duties are very long.
I've heard from a friend that they expect you to work 6 days 13hours a day any truth in that?
Quote from: Nxwm on February 28, 2016, 04:18:19 PM
I've heard from a friend that they expect you to work 6 days 13hours a day any truth in that?
none
Quote from: Nxwm on February 28, 2016, 04:18:19 PM
I've heard from a friend that they expect you to work 6 days 13hours a day any truth in that?
No that's Diamond....
PD1021409/71 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Lichfield Bus Station and Burntwood given service number 66 effective from 18-Apr-2016.
Quote from: Nxwm on February 28, 2016, 04:18:19 PM
I've heard from a friend that they expect you to work 6 days 13hours a day any truth in that?
That was the maximum of what he was talking about, more likely 11 or 12 hours but 13 was not unheard of.
Quote from: Will on February 28, 2016, 05:18:02 PM
No that's Diamond....
Diamond do have duties of 13 hours but there are a number of shorter duties of maybe 8 or 10 hours plus a lot of Diamond drivers only work 4 or 5 days or do 3 or 4 longer days and 2 or 3 short duties.
(https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1018.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf308%2Fxixtomxix%2FIMG_9516_zps9pafmlbs.jpg&hash=ea288c47fd632fecf013e41cfaa4ac0ba3019131) (http://s1018.photobucket.com/user/xixtomxix/media/IMG_9516_zps9pafmlbs.jpg.html)
So where next for central buses?
Quote from: LG on March 02, 2016, 08:01:08 PM
So where next for central buses?
I don't follow...
Quote from: Will on March 02, 2016, 08:02:14 PM
I don't follow...
They're withdrawing the 66, see the VOSA registration I posted on page earlier
Quote from: Winston on March 02, 2016, 08:21:28 PM
They're withdrawing the 66, see the VOSA registration I posted on page earlier
Oh yeah I know about that
Wonder what they t going y yo do next though they were doing ok against arriva
Anybody looking the alx400 trident is parked on hatherton Street Walsall
One of the new Tridents is on the 75 today (PN03 UMJ?)
Also there is a Solo on the 78
Quote from: John on March 05, 2016, 11:47:57 AM
One of the new Tridents is on the 75 today (PN03 UMJ?)
Also there is a Solo on the 78
Meanwhile a Coleshill branded E300 is currently on the Walsall Road heading south from Scott Arms NIS
Quote from: John on March 05, 2016, 11:47:57 AM
One of the new Tridents is on the 75 today (PN03 UMJ?)
Also there is a Solo on the 78
It's PN03 ULV.
Never seen this before! There's a Dart on the X16/16!
KOX was on the 16 the other day ... although would have been the non X16 board
MX56 HYA has been on the 16 today. Just saw it pass me in Perry Barr heading back to depot.
Enviro 200 MMC Demonstrator is expected to arrive at Central Buses on Monday.
AE06 ZBR was looking broken down, causing an obstruction, on Dowles road coming out of Bewdley this evening around 1820. Looks like it was on the last 125 to Bridgnorth and decided to go no further. Driver and a handful of passengers on board.
E200MMC Demo YX65RLO is now at Central
https://www.facebook.com/centralbuses/
Quote from: James4368 on March 21, 2016, 03:37:56 PM
E200MMC Demo YX65RLO is now at Central
https://www.facebook.com/centralbuses/
was with blackpool transport be fore central
Quote from: James4368 on March 21, 2016, 03:37:56 PM
E200MMC Demo YX65RLO is now at Central
https://www.facebook.com/centralbuses/
It's gone to Kidderminster today and will be on the 125 tomorrow.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on March 21, 2016, 07:37:21 PM
It's gone to Kidderminster today and will be on the 125 tomorrow.
:D :D :D brilliant news :D :D :D
Quote from: Solo1 on March 21, 2016, 04:03:01 PM
was with blackpool transport be fore central
And Im sure McGills have had it too. Don't quote me tho.
@tank90 https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidsbusphotos/24787235164/in/dateposted/
Anyone know what time the MMC will be in Stourbridge?
Update: the Enviro MMC has now returned to Perry Barr following a day in Kidderminster on the 125 so keep a look out for it elsewhere tomorrow
Quote from: Will on March 22, 2016, 06:01:35 PM
Update: the Enviro MMC has now returned to Perry Barr following a day in Kidderminster on the 125 so keep a look out for it elsewhere tomorrow
Did you see it will?. If so was Oliver ar the wheel or his dad dave
I've just been told the Demonstrator has been seen this morning at ASDA Queslett with X16 displayed. I've also just seen SK15 GYA parked in depot so I suspect the Demonstrator is on the X16.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on March 23, 2016, 06:19:11 AM
I've just been told the Demonstrator has been seen this morning at ASDA Queslett with X16 displayed. I've also just seen SK15 GYA parked in depot so I suspect the Demonstrator is on the X16.
Confirmed. Saw it in Brum just now
16/X16 today
Quote from: Kevin on March 23, 2016, 07:41:43 AM
Confirmed. Saw it in Brum just now
It will do the 17:15 X16 this evening from Birmingham if anyone wants to get a photograph.
I have to say though, it did look quite short, I was expecting a full size bus for some reason
Enviro200MMC demo is on the 75 today
Quote from: John on March 24, 2016, 02:04:42 PM
Enviro200MMC demo is on the 75 today
I was hoping it would be on there tomorrow.
Does anyone require the demo
Demonstrator is on the 78 today between Streetly and Sutton Coldfield.
Demonstrator has been on the Xpre55 today.
X233NNO is on rail replacements today
Thought X602EGK would be on there too but I only saw X233NNO
PD1021409/73 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Stourbridge Bus Station and Bridgnorth given service number 125 effective from 29-Mar-2016. To amend Route, Stopping Places and Timetable.
Quote from: Winston on March 01, 2016, 02:10:00 PM
PD1021409/71 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Lichfield Bus Station and Burntwood given service number 66 effective from 18-Apr-2016.
http://www.centralbuses.com/news/service-changes-sunday-17th-april-2016/
BU12 LJL has been in Kidderminster today on the 125
PD1021409/82 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Merry Hill Centre
Finish Point: Gornal Wood Bus Station
Via: Brierley Hill, Russells Hall Hospital
Service Number: 297
Service Type: Normal Stopping/Hail & Ride
Effective Date: 30-MAY-2016
Other Details: Monday to Saturday
With them winning the 1 in Coventry from July , they are doing VERY well indeed!
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 13, 2016, 12:05:12 PM
PD1021409/82 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Merry Hill Centre
Finish Point: Gornal Wood Bus Station
Via: Brierley Hill, Russells Hall Hospital
Service Number: 297
Service Type: Normal Stopping/Hail & Ride
Effective Date: 30-MAY-2016
Other Details: Monday to Saturday
Has National Express lost it then?
Quote from: Michael Bevan on April 13, 2016, 01:58:33 PM
Has National Express lost it then?
National Express West Midlands registered a Cancellation notice from 29th May. I'm assuming it is a Centro Tender which Central Buses have won.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 13, 2016, 12:05:12 PM
PD1021409/82 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Merry Hill Centre
Finish Point: Gornal Wood Bus Station
Via: Brierley Hill, Russells Hall Hospital
Service Number: 297
Service Type: Normal Stopping/Hail & Ride
Effective Date: 30-MAY-2016
Other Details: Monday to Saturday
Will Kidderminster operate it then?
Quote from: 2206 on April 13, 2016, 04:14:49 PM
Will Kidderminster operate it then?
doubt it . it would be ideal to extend it to Dudley and link it with the 125
Quote from: Cedric on April 13, 2016, 04:22:54 PM
doubt it . it would be ideal to extend it to Dudley and link it with the 125
Aren't Merry Hill and Gornal Wood nearer to Kidderminster than Perry Barr?
They could extend the 125 to Merry Hill to link it?
Quote from: Cedric on April 13, 2016, 04:22:54 PM
doubt it . it would be ideal to extend it to Dudley and link it with the 125
The 125 doesn't go to Dudley though?
Quote from: 2206 on April 13, 2016, 04:26:04 PM
Aren't Merry Hill and Gornal Wood nearer to Kidderminster than Perry Barr?
They could extend the 125 to Merry Hill to link it?
sorry getting diamond and central depots mixed up , I was thinking of tivadale when I posted
Quote from: Dom on April 13, 2016, 04:32:09 PM
The 125 doesn't go to Dudley though?
ment extend the 297 to Dudley and link the 125 and the 297 even if it was just Saturdays to give people from my area without there own transport a chance to vist Dudley for a day out
Quote from: 2206 on April 13, 2016, 04:14:49 PM
Will Kidderminster operate it then?
It's undecided at the moment.
X233 NNO now for sale on eBay.
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/131780281951?_mwBanner=1
Quote from: Nathan on April 13, 2016, 02:05:12 PM
National Express West Midlands registered a Cancellation notice from 29th May. I'm assuming it is a Centro Tender which Central Buses have won.
Is this only certain journeys they have won or the whole timetable? Will Nat Ex stop operating the 297 all together?
Quote from: BN on April 13, 2016, 08:20:49 PM
Is this only certain journeys they have won or the whole timetable? Will Nat Ex stop operating the 297 all together?
I would say the whole timetable
@BN , if it was only certain journeys then it would have been shown on VOSA as a National Express timetable change rather than a total cancellation.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 13, 2016, 08:28:17 PM
I would say the whole timetable @BN , if it was only certain journeys then it would have been shown on VOSA as a National Express timetable change rather than a total cancellation.
Thanks Stu.
Looks like the drivers at Central Buses have had a pay rise. It used to be starting from £8.00 an hour, now it's starting from £9.00 an hour.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on April 15, 2016, 06:53:59 AM
Looks like the drivers at Central Buses have had a pay rise. It used to be starting from £8.00 an hour, now it's starting from £9.00 an hour.
Yes they have and I knew before it was publicised
Quote from: Will on April 15, 2016, 08:42:06 AM
Yes they have and I knew before it was publicised
Same. But I decided to keep it quiet until it actually happened.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on April 15, 2016, 06:53:59 AM
Looks like the drivers at Central Buses have had a pay rise. It used to be starting from £8.00 an hour, now it's starting from £9.00 an hour.
Hmm that may sway me to apply there then
Quote from: MW on April 15, 2016, 12:28:10 PM
Hmm that may sway me to apply there then
I would suggest you apply for them! You'd like it there! Really nice company to work for!
Quote from: Michael Bevan on April 15, 2016, 01:03:10 PM
I would suggest you apply for them! You'd like it there! Really nice company to work for!
They may not want MW after reading all his posts on here...... :P ;D
Quote from: Winston on April 15, 2016, 01:07:51 PM
They may not want MW after reading all his posts on here...... :P ;D
Well I think they will want him. He didn't get sacked for something very serious.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on April 15, 2016, 01:14:08 PM
Well I think they will want him. He didn't get sacked for something very serious.
I wasn't even referring to being sacked
Quote from: Winston on April 15, 2016, 01:15:14 PM
I wasn't even referring to being sacked
What was you referring to then?
Quote from: Michael Bevan on April 15, 2016, 01:15:49 PM
What was you referring to then?
If you read my original comments 'I said what's he's posted on here....'
Quote from: Winston on April 15, 2016, 01:17:47 PM
If you read my original comments 'I said what's he's posted on here....'
Oh, I do apologise! I'm half asleep at the moment. :P
Sn04efp at West brom crew bys Coleshill connection
Quote from: Winston on April 15, 2016, 01:07:51 PM
They may not want MW after reading all his posts on here...... :P ;D
Hahaha lol, maybe, maybe not
Quote from: MW on April 16, 2016, 03:17:02 PM
Hahaha lol, maybe, maybe not
I do think you should apply for a job at Central. They look after their staff really well and also the passengers are very friendly.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on April 16, 2016, 04:29:44 PM
I do think you should apply for a job at Central. They look after their staff really well and also the passengers are very friendly.
I wouldn't call stupidly long duties looking after their staff
Quote from: Dom on April 16, 2016, 04:33:45 PM
I wouldn't call stupidly long duties looking after their staff
They only have "stupidly long duties" due to the number of drivers.
Quote from: Dom on April 16, 2016, 04:33:45 PM
I wouldn't call stupidly long duties looking after their staff
Because of course NX don't have any of those atall....
Quote from: andy41 on April 20, 2016, 06:58:35 PM
Because of course NX don't have any of those atall....
All NX duties are around the 7 hour to 8 hour mark.
Quote from: Dom on April 20, 2016, 08:54:06 PM
All NX duties are around the 7 hour to 8 hour mark.
Driving hours maybe, try spreadover. And even without that, you are wrong.
Quote from: andy41 on April 20, 2016, 08:57:00 PM
Driving hours maybe, try spreadover. And even without that, you are wrong.
How am I wrong?
NX drivers are not paid for their break and are paid 7hr36 per duty providing it is around that mark. Some duties are over that, some are under but it all evens its self out over a week.
Quote from: Dom on April 20, 2016, 08:59:57 PM
How am I wrong?
NX drivers are not paid for their break and are paid 7hr36 per duty providing it is around that mark. Some duties are over that, some are under but it all evens its self out over a week.
You are wrong because there are duties that contain more than 8 hours. And as you say, they are unpaid for breaks. This means that over a week you can easily be 'at work' for up to 15 hours for which you're not getting paid. Other operators may have long duties, but you are getting paid all but an hour per shift.
Your assertion that these operators are not 'looking after their staff' and that NX are some beacon of employee satisfaction is simply a myth, go and speak to a few of the drivers sitting about in Solihull all day for nothing.
Quote from: andy41 on April 20, 2016, 09:04:41 PM
You are wrong because there are duties that contain more than 8 hours. And as you say, they are unpaid for breaks. This means that over a week you can easily be 'at work' for up to 15 hours for which you're not getting paid. Other operators may have long duties, but you are getting paid all but an hour per shift.
Your assertion that these operators are not 'looking after their staff' and that NX are some beacon of employee satisfaction is simply a myth, go and speak to a few of the drivers sitting about in Solihull all day for nothing.
First of all, I did not say that all duties are under 8 hours, I said 'Around the 8 hour mark'. Proof read before you post.
Your second point about them being paid all but an hour per shift. That is the same with NX (Actually more than NX).
MOST NX duties only have a 40-45 minute break. Yes, you have some split duties with a couple hours break. But only a small % of duties are like that.
Quote from: andy41 on April 20, 2016, 09:04:41 PM
You are wrong because there are duties that contain more than 8 hours. And as you say, they are unpaid for breaks. This means that over a week you can easily be 'at work' for up to 15 hours for which you're not getting paid. Other operators may have long duties, but you are getting paid all but an hour per shift.
Your assertion that these operators are not 'looking after their staff' and that NX are some beacon of employee satisfaction is simply a myth, go and speak to a few of the drivers sitting about in Solihull all day for nothing.
And there's the 4 day rota drivers who do a lot more than 8 hours a day
Quote from: Dom on April 20, 2016, 09:09:46 PM
First of all, I did not say that all duties are under 8 hours, I said 'Around the 8 hour mark'. Proof read before you post.
Your second point about them being paid all but an hour per shift. That is the same with NX (Actually more than NX). MOST NX duties only have a 40-45 minute break. Yes, you have some split duties with a couple hours break. But only a small % of duties are like that.
Please refrain from issuing me with instructions, it's patronising and you are not a moderator.
It is not a small % of duties, hence why I said you can be at work up to 15 hours per week unpaid. I am not making it up, I have done it.
When you have a job I'm sure you won't want it to be one where you spend 13 hours out of the house and get paid for just over 7 and a half.
Quote from: andy41 on April 20, 2016, 09:14:00 PM
Please refrain from issuing me with instructions, it's patronising and you are not a moderator.
It is not a small % of duties, hence why I said you can be at work up to 15 hours per week unpaid. I am not making it up, I have done it.
When you have a job I'm sure you won't want it to be one where you spend 13 hours out of the house and get paid for just over 7 and a half.
It was more advice than an instruction plus I really cannot be arsed to argue. I've made my point and backed them up.
Quote from: Dom on April 16, 2016, 04:33:45 PM
I wouldn't call stupidly long duties looking after their staff
This is the point you started with. You haven't backed that one up. You have made an allegation about an operator with no evidence or experience of what you are talking about. Maybe you should have just never made it?
People who declare they 'can't be arsed to argue' usually don't have much of one left.
Never mind.
Quote from: andy41 on April 20, 2016, 09:32:53 PM
This is the point you started with. You haven't backed that one up. You have made an allegation about an operator with no evidence or experience of what you are talking about. Maybe you should have just never made it?
People who declare they 'can't be arsed to argue' usually don't have much of one left.
Never mind.
Not at all I just have much more important things (Such as revision) to do.
A lot of the duties at AG were/are split actually (Fox Hollies rota, I'm looking at you.). It was rare to get under and hour break in my experience.
Only way around it for me in the end was to work late book ons only. Found those and late nights had shorter breaks. That was only because I was on good terms with the guy who books the work for everyone.
Quote from: Dom on April 20, 2016, 09:37:44 PM
Not at all I just have much more important things (Such as revision) to do.
You accuse me of sticking up for diamond, yet you clearly like nx. Nx are going on strike soon because there not getting paid enough! Is that good business? Now I do business and I'm pretty sure this is why nx employees are always so miserable!
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 21, 2016, 07:36:12 AM
You accuse me of sticking up for diamond, yet you clearly like nx. Nx are going on strike soon because there not getting paid enough! Is that good business? Now I do business and I'm pretty sure this is why nx employees are always so miserable!
Not sticking up for National Express at all just explaining how National Express operate drivers duties compared to Central Buses.
I agree National Express drivers are not paid enough (the conversation was never about monetary value). Although whilst I do not agree with a strike National Express drivers are given no self value at the company. I speak to many drivers and they agree that they are just a roll number. Using maslows therom it is a surprise that drivers are not leaving quicker than they are currently. If you cannot tell I also take business and im currently working at an A grade so I do know what im on about
@Trident 4194
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 21, 2016, 07:36:12 AM
You accuse me of sticking up for diamond, yet you clearly like nx. Nx are going on strike soon because there not getting paid enough! Is that good business? Now I do business and I'm pretty sure this is why nx employees are always so miserable!
you must know something that the nx Union management and drivers don't know
About we're going on strike soon WRONG AGAIN
Central Buses new 297/279A timetable from 30th May...
297 > http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?
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297A > http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&command=direct&net=cen&line=10297&sup=A&itdLPxx_direction=H&project=y11&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_sessionID=CEN_EFA02_432112535&lineVer=1&itdLPxx_spTr=1&itdLPxx_operatorCodeForTTB=CEB (http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&command=direct&net=cen&line=10297&sup=A&itdLPxx_direction=H&project=y11&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_sessionID=CEN_EFA02_432112535&lineVer=1&itdLPxx_spTr=1&itdLPxx_operatorCodeForTTB=CEB)
Quote from: Reece on April 24, 2016, 09:56:00 PM
Central Buses new 297/279A timetable from 30th May...
297 > http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?
language=en&command=direct&net=cen&line=10297&sup=%20&itdLPxx_direction=H&project=y11&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_sessionID=CEN_EFA02_432112535&lineVer=1&itdLPxx_spTr=1&itdLPxx_operatorCodeForTTB=CEB (http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&command=direct&net=cen&line=10297&sup=%20&itdLPxx_direction=H&project=y11&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_sessionID=CEN_EFA02_432112535&lineVer=1&itdLPxx_spTr=1&itdLPxx_operatorCodeForTTB=CEB)
297A > http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&command=direct&net=cen&line=10297&sup=A&itdLPxx_direction=H&project=y11&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_sessionID=CEN_EFA02_432112535&lineVer=1&itdLPxx_spTr=1&itdLPxx_operatorCodeForTTB=CEB (http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&command=direct&net=cen&line=10297&sup=A&itdLPxx_direction=H&project=y11&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_sessionID=CEN_EFA02_432112535&lineVer=1&itdLPxx_spTr=1&itdLPxx_operatorCodeForTTB=CEB)
Will it be the normal 297 on a Saturday instead of 297A, I didn't think you could go that route through the Trading Estate on a Saturday?
@Stuharris 6360Looking at the timetables the routes are swapping numbers
The 297a will be the one through the Estate
The 297 will be the one NOT via the Estate
Quote from: the trainbasher on April 25, 2016, 12:24:02 PM
The 297a will be the one through the Estate
The 297 will be the one NOT via the Estate
That's gonna confuse people although I don't really see any reason for it to serve the Trading Estate anymore?!
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 25, 2016, 12:25:23 PM
That's gonna confuse people although I don't really see any reason for it to serve the Trading Estate anymore?!
NX drivers will not be welcome to use it according to rumors
Quote from: pndriver on April 25, 2016, 02:56:25 PM
NX drivers will not be welcome to use it according to rumors
Ouch! So what Central Bus have turned round & supposedly said that NX drivers are 'banned' basically? Hmm charming....
Quote from: Will on April 25, 2016, 03:16:32 PM
Ouch! So what Central Bus have turned round & supposedly said that NX drivers are 'banned' basically? Hmm charming....
nx drivers won't get free travel they will have to pay if they want to use it to and from garage
And so they should. Why should a nx driver travel free on another company. If they really want free travel to depot, the 205 goes near to it.
It's similar to a BHS employee demanding employee discount at Marks and Sparks
It's pretty infrequent in its new format at an hourly frequency, I assume this will be a further nail in the 297's coffin....
Quote from: the trainbasher on April 25, 2016, 03:57:46 PM
And so they should. Why should a nx driver travel free on another company. If they really want free travel to depot, the 205 goes near to it.
It's similar to a BHS employee demanding employee discount at Marks and Sparks
Because there's an unwritten rule which I believe
@Tony will back me up on that says bus drivers travel free on other buses other than the company they work for but only if they are in uniform for example the once I was on the Diamond 4H heading to Halesowen an NX driver got on just down the road from West Brom bus station he got off at Oldbury Interchange but he didn't pay so like I said it's an unwritten rule also driver discretion
Quote from: Will on April 25, 2016, 04:22:48 PM
Because there's an unwritten rule which I believe @Tony will back me up on that says bus drivers travel free on other buses other than the company they work for but only if they are in uniform for example the once I was on the Diamond 4H heading to Halesowen an NX driver got on just down the road from West Brom bus station he got off at Oldbury Interchange but he didn't pay so like I said it's an unwritten rule also driver discretion
No
Quote from: Winston on April 25, 2016, 04:02:05 PM
It's pretty infrequent in its new format at an hourly frequency, I assume this will be a further nail in the 297's coffin....
Will Central be able to keep to time or suffer the same problems that NE encountered when they had to revise the timetable to every 40 minutes.
Quote from: Tony on April 25, 2016, 05:39:42 PM
No
Sure I saw Nx drivers on Diamond Saturday & I'm pretty sure they didnt pay either.
(In fact I know I've mentioned this before on here!)
Quote from: Westy on April 25, 2016, 06:49:24 PM
Sure I saw Nx drivers on Diamond Saturday & I'm pretty sure they didnt pay either.
(In fact I know I've mentioned this before on here!)
Well I'm glad I'm not the only one who's seen it occur
Quote from: Westy on April 25, 2016, 06:49:24 PM
Sure I saw Nx drivers on Diamond Saturday & I'm pretty sure they didnt pay either.
(In fact I know I've mentioned this before on here!)
I think it's at the driver's discretion. Most will let fellow drivers on for free.
One of the new deckers central buses has a was crew bus at West Brom see photo link for photo
One of the gaffas at Social Travel would always ask me if I wanted to jump on their 11C. I used it a few times to get to Sarehole Mill (the relief point on the 5). He was telling me about his stories when he used to drive on Soho Road on the 74 (WB). Funny guy lol. He told me about a time he was behind a 79, letting him take all the passengers and how the 79 driver went round the roundabout at Hockley to get behind and how he followed him round lol.
I'm sure that Tony will say if this is true or not but if nx revenue team get on then a driver from any other company will be expected to either have a valid pass/ticket or get a fine just like any other passenger
Quote from: Steveminor on April 26, 2016, 07:53:48 PM
I'm sure that Tony will say if this is true or not but if nx revenue team get on then a driver from any other company will be expected to either have a valid pass/ticket or get a fine just like any other passenger
Yes you are correct, but discretion is also used by the revenue team depending on circumstances
I think it's more to do if the driver is trying to get to take over his bus on a subsidised service. If for example it was a diamond driver getting the nx 4 into west Bromwich so he could take over the bus that was then due out in front competing directly with it then a slightly firmer attitude would be taken & you can't blame nx for that
Quote from: Tony on April 26, 2016, 07:58:03 PM
Yes you are correct, but discretion is also used by the revenue team depending on circumstances
What circumstances?
X233 NNO has now been sold.
How come today no central buses parked up at 1 stop like there was
On Tuesday acting as crew bus decker there approx 1015
Quote from: Solo1 on April 28, 2016, 11:12:46 AM
How come today no central buses parked up at 1 stop like there was
On Tuesday acting as crew bus decker there approx 1015
Probably finished the relief and has gone to it's next location.
Great to see Central Buses taking on a new route with 297. However, looking at the timetable I think there'll be massive issues with reliability due to only 2 minute layover at each terminus. As Central will be to most passengers on that route a 'new operator' I do hope that punctuality issues does not lead people to view them as an unreliable operator.
I have seen lots of examples of drivers in uniform travelling on other operators buses without paying. In places such as West Bromwich this happens regularly, drivers get to recognize each other and may in some cases have worked for the same bus company at some point. With Diamond and NXWM, especially around West Bromwich / Oldbury, drivers from both companies travel by bus to / from reliefs and their is mutual benefit and part of good colleagueship and respect for people in the same industry. Most bus drivers model themselves on treating passengers in the way they would hope to be treated by a bus driver if they were a passenger.
Central Buses drivers, from what I've experienced are courteous and professional. I'm sure, unless they have been directed otherwise, they would carry drivers from other companies on their buses. Although having said that, I don't think their drivers have to make their own way between depot and relief points so don't benefit from that level of service from other companies.
Quote from: fleetline6477 on April 28, 2016, 06:44:24 PM
I have seen lots of examples of drivers in uniform travelling on other operators buses without paying. In places such as West Bromwich this happens regularly, drivers get to recognize each other and may in some cases have worked for the same bus company at some point. With Diamond and NXWM, especially around West Bromwich / Oldbury, drivers from both companies travel by bus to / from reliefs and their is mutual benefit and part of good colleagueship and respect for people in the same industry. Most bus drivers model themselves on treating passengers in the way they would hope to be treated by a bus driver if they were a passenger.
Central Buses drivers, from what I've experienced are courteous and professional. I'm sure, unless they have been directed otherwise, they would carry drivers from other companies on their buses. Although having said that, I don't think their drivers have to make their own way between depot and relief points so don't benefit from that level of service from other companies.
Well the wonderful thing about Central Bus and probably not a lot of people know this is they don't have inspectors
Quote from: fleetline6477 on April 28, 2016, 06:44:24 PM
I have seen lots of examples of drivers in uniform travelling on other operators buses without paying. In places such as West Bromwich this happens regularly, drivers get to recognize each other and may in some cases have worked for the same bus company at some point. With Diamond and NXWM, especially around West Bromwich / Oldbury, drivers from both companies travel by bus to / from reliefs and their is mutual benefit and part of good colleagueship and respect for people in the same industry. Most bus drivers model themselves on treating passengers in the way they would hope to be treated by a bus driver if they were a passenger.
Central Buses drivers, from what I've experienced are courteous and professional. I'm sure, unless they have been directed otherwise, they would carry drivers from other companies on their buses. Although having said that, I don't think their drivers have to make their own way between depot and relief points so don't benefit from that level of service from other companies.
They do actually. But Central give them Nbus Daysavers in order to travel on other operators.
X602 EGK has also been sold. Both vehicles are now withdrawn and waiting for the new buyers to collect them.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on April 28, 2016, 07:19:10 PM
They do actually. But Central give them Nbus Daysavers in order to travel on other operators.
That must be useful for the Kidderminster drivers!
Quote from: StourportSam on April 29, 2016, 03:59:50 PM
That must be useful for the Kidderminster drivers!
No as the Kidderminster drivers have they're own cars so they travel to work that way I believe at least 2 of the drivers at Kidderminster live in Halesowen or Stourbridge
Versa being used at One Stop for the staff bis today!
Quote from: Michael Bevan on April 29, 2016, 03:57:29 PM
X602 EGK has also been sold. Both vehicles are now withdrawn and waiting for the new buyers to collect them.
one of the 2 withdrawn Tridents was at Lichfield on crew Duty on Friday with 39 in the window one with the ad on the rear
Quote from: Will on April 29, 2016, 04:22:56 PM
No as the Kidderminster drivers have they're own cars so they travel to work that way I believe at least 2 of the drivers at Kidderminster live in Halesowen or Stourbridge
It was a joke, seeing as N Bus would not be valid in Kidderminster...
Quote from: Solo1 on May 01, 2016, 11:31:29 AM
one of the 2 withdrawn Tridents was at Lichfield on crew Duty on Friday with 39 in the window one with the ad on the rear
Friday was it's last day in service.
X233 NNO has been sold to a conversion company. I think this vehicle has now gone. X602 EGK has been sold out a school to be converted into a mobile classroom. This vehicle should be going very soon.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on May 05, 2016, 07:09:47 AM
X602 EGK has been sold out a school to be converted into a mobile classroom. This vehicle should be going very soon.
I bet that will be freezing in the winter
X602 EGK has now left the fleet. It is now with it's new buyer.
1. PD1021409/83 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Chapelfields, Grayswood Avenue
Finish Point: Brade Drive, Manfield Avenue
Via: Coventry Rail Station, University Hospital
Service Number: 1
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 25-JUL-2016
Other Details: Monday to Saturday
Quote from: Michael Bevan on May 05, 2016, 07:09:47 AM
X233 NNO has been sold to a conversion company. I think this vehicle has now gone.
'X233 NNO' has left today to a Company in Oxford
Quote from: John on May 18, 2016, 11:29:11 AM
'X233 NNO' has left today to a Company in Oxford
Probably gone for it's conversion.
Solo YJ59 PKC is on the 75 today, 13:20 from Birmingham International, not what I expected to see on that route!
Really not a need for a big bus on a saturday on the 75
Quote from: jc on May 23, 2016, 07:21:09 PM
Really not a need for a big bus on a saturday on the 75
Valid. But I would have thought the solos would all be in use on their normal services
KV51 KZL now for sale on eBay.
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/131825911552?_mwBanner=
Quote from: Michael Bevan on May 24, 2016, 08:13:46 PM
KV51 KZL now for sale on eBay.
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/131825911552?_mwBanner=
I wonder if we may see a Enviro200 MMC as the new vehicle mentioned awaiting delivery.
Quote from: John on May 24, 2016, 09:25:21 PM
I wonder if we may see a Enviro200 MMC as the new vehicle mentioned awaiting delivery.
All I'll say is there are new vehicles on order but I can't say what types.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on May 25, 2016, 04:10:18 AM
All I'll say is there are new vehicles on order but I can't say what types.
what service will the new buses before &when will they be delivered I know there as guess in build as we speak
Quote from: Solo1 on May 25, 2016, 05:59:26 AM
what service will the new buses before &when will they be delivered I know there as guess in build as we speak
I think for a variety of services. First new buses due in the next couple of weeks.
Quote from: John on May 24, 2016, 09:25:21 PM
I wonder if we may see a Enviro200 MMC as the new vehicle mentioned awaiting delivery.
I am really looking forward to Central Buses roaming the streets of Coventry. Although NXC have been doing a good job with it recently, passenger numbers have increased considerably as I went on it last year with only around 3 people on it and the same time of the day this year had over 10 in just the Chapelfields section.
It will be very good if the new buses went onto the 1 giving a bit more variety in Coventry but I am sure that other routes could get a look in instead...
Quote from: Adam 404 on May 25, 2016, 03:29:44 PM
I am really looking forward to Central Buses roaming the streets of Coventry. Although NXC have been doing a good job with it recently, passenger numbers have increased considerably as I went on it last year with only around 3 people on it and the same time of the day this year had over 10 in just the Chapelfields section.
It will be very good if the new buses went onto the 1 giving a bit more variety in Coventry but I am sure that other routes could get a look in instead...
I think the new vehicles will end up on the 1 sometimes.
A Optare Versa and Dart are on the 75 today.
Quote from: 2206 on May 28, 2016, 07:03:26 PM
A Optare Versa and Dart are on the 75 today.
MX56 HYA I think it was.
The three new buses are Optare Metrocitys
YJ16 DDL
YJ16 DDN
YJ16 DDO
Quote from: Tony on May 31, 2016, 05:37:48 PM
The three new buses are Optare Metrocitys
YJ16 DDL
YJ16 DDN
YJ16 DDO
WOW! Wasn't expecting that.
Quote from: Tony on May 31, 2016, 05:37:48 PM
The three new buses are Optare Metrocitys
YJ16 DDL
YJ16 DDN
YJ16 DDO
And I can confirm via a source they will be allocated to Kidderminster for the 125
Quote from: Will on May 31, 2016, 06:35:29 PM
And I can confirm via a source they will be allocated to Kidderminster for the 125
Why buy the Optare Versa for the 125 for them to come off there and then buy the Metrocity
Quote from: RS on May 31, 2016, 07:11:06 PM
Why buy the Optare Versa for the 125 for them to come off there and then buy the Metrocity
ad a guess they are smaller than the versa
Quote from: Solo1 on May 31, 2016, 07:24:59 PM
ad a guess they are smaller than the versa
According to Optare website, Versa holds 37 seats whilst Metrocity has 44.
Quote from: RS on May 31, 2016, 07:11:06 PM
Why buy the Optare Versa for the 125 for them to come off there and then buy the Metrocity
I think this may be the answer...
Quote from: Will on January 14, 2016, 09:23:01 PM
According to my source Geoff Cross has said that he doesn't want the Versa's being used in Kidderminster anymore as they are getting very battered on the 125
Quote from: Tony on May 31, 2016, 05:37:48 PM
The three new buses are Optare Metrocitys
YJ16 DDL
YJ16 DDN
YJ16 DDO
Well I've failed to keep that quiet! They aren't the only vehicles to come this year though.
Quote from: Adam 404 on May 31, 2016, 07:36:55 PM
I think this may be the answer...
The reason why Central have bought these is since they were not impressed with the new Enviro 200 MMC. The demonstrator proved to be a failure amongst passenger's and drivers. I suggested to them to look into the Metrocity as an alternative option as Midland Classic had just taken some. When the company looked, they were very impressed.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on May 31, 2016, 07:40:05 PM
The reason why Central have bought these is since they were not impressed with the new Enviro 200 MMC. The demonstrator proved to be a failure amongst passenger's and drivers. I suggested to them to look into the Metrocity as an alternative option as Midland Classic had just taken some. When the company looked, they were very impressed.
Orders for Optare's Metrocity seem to be growing amongst smaller operator's, NAT have built up a large fleet of them having placed repeat orders for services around Newport. They're said to be producing exceptional fuel economy, which may well prove useful for Central on a long distance route such as the 125.
Quote from: Winston on May 31, 2016, 08:41:18 PM
Orders for Optare's Metrocity seem to be growing amongst smaller operator's, NAT have built up a large fleet of them having placed repeat orders for services around Newport. They're said to be producing exceptional fuel economy, which may well prove useful for Central on a long distance route such as the 125.
Allocation for them has not been decided yet so they could end up all over.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on May 31, 2016, 09:13:07 PM
Allocation for them has not been decided yet so they could end up all over.
It doesn't matter where they're allocated, they should prove a good purchase either way
Quote from: Winston on May 31, 2016, 09:18:33 PM
It doesn't matter where they're allocated, they should prove a good purchase either way
They're due to arrive tomorrow so look out if you're around the Perry Barr area.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on May 31, 2016, 09:13:07 PM
Allocation for them has not been decided yet so they could end up all over.
Well that's funny I've been told the 125 so don't be contradicting things Michael!!
Quote from: Will on May 31, 2016, 09:27:40 PM
Well that's funny I've been told the 125 so don't be contradicting things Michael!!
I'm just saying what I've been told.
Im hearing from a source that the E300's are to be debranded for the 75 and these are to go.
Quote from: Dom on May 31, 2016, 10:42:29 PM
Im hearing from a source that the E300's are to be debranded for the 75 and these are to go.
Well that wouldn't be too surprising mate tbh neither Enviro were on the 75 today only Versa's XVW and XVY were plus I have heard from my driver friend that Geoff Cross is selling off the long Darts which I can see Diamond purchasing them
Quote from: Will on May 31, 2016, 10:57:10 PM
Well that wouldn't be too surprising mate tbh neither Enviro were on the 75 today only Versa's XVW and XVY were plus I have heard from my driver friend that Geoff Cross is selling off the long Darts which I can see Diamond purchasing them
No E300s were on the 75 on Saturday either. It was a Versa and a Dart on Saturday.
Quote from: Will on May 31, 2016, 10:57:10 PM
Well that wouldn't be too surprising mate tbh neither Enviro were on the 75 today only Versa's XVW and XVY were plus I have heard from my driver friend that Geoff Cross is selling off the long Darts which I can see Diamond purchasing them
I can't see Diamond buying any surplus long Central Buses Darts, other than 30886-8, Diamond haven't acquired any used Darts for a long time. There are still 05 plate long Darts for sale at Ensign (ex Dawson Rentals) that they could have acquired if they were in the market for extra.
Quote from: Will on May 31, 2016, 10:57:10 PM
Well that wouldn't be too surprising mate tbh neither Enviro were on the 75 today only Versa's XVW and XVY were plus I have heard from my driver friend that Geoff Cross is selling off the long Darts which I can see Diamond purchasing them
The Enviro 300's will be going back to Warwickshire County Council soon. Also I've been told more Dart's will be up for sale soon.
Quote from: Winston on May 31, 2016, 11:05:41 PM
I can't see Diamond buying any surplus long Central Buses Darts, other than 30886-8, Diamond haven't acquired any used Darts for a long time. There are still 05 plate long Darts for sale at Ensign (ex Dawson Rentals) that they could have acquired if they were in the market for extra.
I had the same idea as a way of Diamond getting rid of their remaining Cadets but maybe they have more luck than other firms.
First one has arrived. Apparently it's currently on a test run around the City Centre.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 01, 2016, 01:36:09 PM
First one has arrived. Apparently it's currently on a test run around the City Centre.
Think I saw it in Sutton on Victoria Road a few hours ago as I saw a White Metrocity go along there.
Quote from: 2206 on May 31, 2016, 11:01:13 PM
No E300s were on the 75 on Saturday either. It was a Versa and a Dart on Saturday.
Same today, Versa XVY and Dart MX56HYA on 75 with Versa XVW on the 78.
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on June 01, 2016, 03:34:54 PM
Same today, Versa XVY and Dart MX56HYA on 75 with Versa XVW on the 78.
At 17:30 PN03ULV was at Asda Minworth on a 75 to Birmingham International MX56HYA was still out so, it must have replaced the Versa.
Quote from: 2206 on June 01, 2016, 07:01:19 PM
At 17:30 KV03ULV was at Asda Minworth on a 75 to Birmingham International MX56HYA was still out so, it must have replaced the Versa.
Don't you mean PN03 ULV?
The two Enviro300s have now been sold reading their Facebook page
Quote from: John on June 01, 2016, 07:22:50 PM
The two Enviro300s have now been sold reading their Facebook page
They're owned by Warks CC. Who are putting them in an auction. Leaving tomorrow
Quote from: Will on May 31, 2016, 09:27:40 PM
Well that's funny I've been told the 125 so don't be contradicting things Michael!!
You're correct Will, they are intended for the 125.
The other 'secret' new buses will be 'old style' E200s for the Coventry Tender win.
Quote from: Tony on June 02, 2016, 09:46:37 AM
You're correct Will, they are intended for the 125.
The other 'secret' new buses will be 'old style' E200s for the Coventry Tender win.
Thank you
@Tony I know my information ;)
PD1021409/68 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Birmingham International Station and Sutton Coldfield given service number 75/75A effective from 26-Jun-2016. To amend Timetable
Quote from: Will on June 02, 2016, 09:57:45 AM
Thank you @Tony I know my information ;)
I've just been told the same.
Quote from: Will on June 02, 2016, 04:45:11 PM
Well I think you owe me an apology @Michael Bevan
Bloody hell you two, you could of dug a 10ft hole with the ammount of digs you're taking at each other.
@Will @micheal Bevan
The 75 is a Versa and Trident today.
The Trident did the 17:30 from Minworth to Birmingham International/Birmingham Airport.
Here is the first Metrocity
http://wmbusphotos.com/Central/YJ16DDL.html
It will be painted before entering service the other two are a couple of weeks away
Quote from: Will on June 02, 2016, 10:48:47 PM
Well whatever I've done nothing wrong @Tony will back me up
I will only back you on the fact you were correct with your information, not the gloating, swearing and insults.
No more comments by anybody!
YJ16 DDL should be going for repaint either later today or on Monday. It will be going up to Stoke for it's repaint.
Why was it delivered in white & not arrived in Fleet livery will the other 2 arrive in white or be painted first
Quote from: Solo1 on June 03, 2016, 12:46:42 PM
Why was it delivered in white & not arrived in Fleet livery will the other 2 arrive in white or be painted first
Probably a stock build
Quote from: Solo1 on June 03, 2016, 12:46:42 PM
Why was it delivered in white & not arrived in Fleet livery will the other 2 arrive in white or be painted first
I expect the other two will arrive in white. YX64 VLZ arrived in white before being repainted.
Quote from: Solo1 on June 03, 2016, 12:46:42 PM
Why was it delivered in white & not arrived in Fleet livery will the other 2 arrive in white or be painted first
There is a good reason, not stock vehicles, I will leave that up to the owner to say the reason if he wants to.
SN04 EFM and EFP have now both left Central Buses. They were both picked up yesterday.
YJ57XVT is on the 75 today.
Quote from: Tony on June 03, 2016, 01:27:38 PM
There is a good reason, not stock vehicles, I will leave that up to the owner to say the reason if he wants to.
you mean Michael bevan doesn't know omg
Quote from: karl724223 on June 03, 2016, 09:13:55 PM
you mean Michael bevan doesn't know omg
As Tony is leaving it up to the owner to say, I'm doing the same.
Optare versa on 297
Central Buses are currently advertising for a management role which has become available in the company.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 07, 2016, 07:53:26 PM
Central Buses are currently advertising for a management role which has become available in the company.
why you been sacked
Quote from: karl724223 on June 08, 2016, 03:48:17 AM
why you been sacked
I was waiting for someone to make a comment... It's a new role they're trying out.
YJ16DDO was parked outside One stop when I passed earlier
Quote from: tphi12000 on June 09, 2016, 01:35:07 PM
YJ16DDO was parked outside One stop when I passed earlier
Out in service today. I think it might be on the 16:45 88 from Erdington possibly.
SERVICE 75:
Will run Every 12 mins *at peak times Birmingham Airport - Birmingham Business Park from 26th June 2016! *But Every 2 hours on Saturday
* = Modifications to original Post
http://www.centralbuses.com/news/service-changes-sunday-17th-april-2016-2/
Quote from: Adam 404 on June 09, 2016, 05:26:36 PM
SERVICE 75:
Will run Every 12 mins Birmingham Airport - Birmingham Business Park from 26th June 2016!
http://www.centralbuses.com/news/service-changes-sunday-17th-april-2016-2/
Only at peak times
@Adam 404 and its now every 2 hours on Saturday.
YJ16 DDL has now returned from repaint. Just seen a photo of it parked at Pheasey earlier.
Anyone know what a on the 75 today
Quote from: Solo1 on June 11, 2016, 01:00:16 PM
Anyone know what a on the 75 today
LWB Dart was one I saw
Quote from: Solo1 on June 11, 2016, 01:00:16 PM
Anyone know what a on the 75 today
Two LWB Darts.
I've been told YJ16 DDL is out on the 78 today.
YJ57 XVY is on the 74 today.
On YJ16DDL nice ride no ticket machine fitted yet
BU12 LJO / AE06 ZBR / YJ57 XVT
all on the 125 today
One or both of the Enviro 300's have appeared on the Stafford Bus Centre website.
http://www.staffordbuscentre.net/carlisting/listings.php?controller=Listings&action=view&id=170&iframe
This didnt last long??
PD1021409/82 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Merry Hill Centre and Gornal Wood Bus Station given service number 297 effective from 08-Aug-2016.
Quote from: gc802002 on June 17, 2016, 10:09:40 AM
This didnt last long??
PD1021409/82 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Merry Hill Centre and Gornal Wood Bus Station given service number 297 effective from 08-Aug-2016.
wonder if igo will pick up the service
Quote from: Solo1 on June 17, 2016, 11:30:11 AM
wonder if igo will pick up the service
Why bother ?
The route obviously doesn't work anymore, I'm sure the local residents will be complaining again though that they haven't got a direct link to the hospital or to merry hill. Don't know why everyone thinks they need a direct link to those places.
Doesn't the 282 provide a limited Merry Hill to Gornalwood service, albeit via a different route?
Yes but have they given the route a chance, it's only been operated for 17 days.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on June 17, 2016, 01:04:02 PM
Yes but have they given the route a chance, it's only been operated for 17 days.
And for 17 days it's been almost empty, all credit to them for trying but a couple of passengers on every other trip won't really pay off.
Quote from: pndriver on June 17, 2016, 01:12:26 PM
And for 17 days it's been almost empty, all credit to them for trying but a couple of passengers on every other trip won't really pay off.
I saw one the other morning empty as well.
Quote from: Winston on June 17, 2016, 01:25:38 PM
I saw one the other morning empty as well.
Are they operating it commercially or under subsidy?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on June 17, 2016, 01:33:45 PM
Are they operating it commercially or under subsidy?
Commercially. I suspect the reduced frequency makes it even less attractive
KV51 KZL has now left the fleet and arrived at Xelabus. Here's a photo from the boss of Xelabus.
YJ16 DDL on the 78 today
SK15 GYA is on the 75 today.
Quote from: 2206 on June 18, 2016, 06:45:59 PM
SK15 GYA is on the 75 today.
Versas XVX/XVT were on there yesterday
The 297 hasn't lasted long then
Has the YJ16 Metrocity's only been on 78 so far?
YJ16 DDO reported on the 78 today
Quote from: James4368 on June 21, 2016, 08:13:54 AM
Has the YJ16 Metrocity's only been on 78 so far?
One is on the 89 today and will do the 17:10 75 later from Sutton Coldfield.
Can someone let me know asap tomorrow morning what one of the metrocity's are on please.
Quote from: Dom on June 21, 2016, 06:36:45 PM
Can someone let me know asap tomorrow morning what one of the metrocity's are on please.
89 (also 17:10 75 from Sutton Coldfield) and 78.
any metrocities coming to Kidderminster for the 125
I'm told both YJ16 DDL and DDO are on the 75 today.
YJ16 DDL and YJ16 DDO were both on the 75 today.
See the company made the national itv news tonight , riding around Perry Barr asking peeps about Brexit.
Quote from: monkeyjoe on June 28, 2016, 06:47:20 PM
See the company made the national itv news tonight , riding around Perry Barr asking peeps about Brexit.
Just beat you to it on the Buses On TV Thread by only a minute!
Quote from: monkeyjoe on June 28, 2016, 06:47:20 PM
See the company made the national itv news tonight , riding around Perry Barr asking peeps about Brexit.
http://www.itv.com/news/2016-06-28/birmingham-at-odds-with-itself-after-eu-referendum-result/
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 28, 2016, 06:52:09 PM
http://www.itv.com/news/2016-06-28/birmingham-at-odds-with-itself-after-eu-referendum-result/
@Michael Bevan you legend I was trying to look for this just now to no avail now shared on my Facebook 😃
Are the 3 new envrios that central are due for the 30/74a as the new Coventry service will use 2 of the old envrios or has this changed
Quote from: Solo1 on July 03, 2016, 05:56:34 PM
Are the 3 new envrios that central are due for the 30/74a as the new Coventry service will use 2 of the old envrios or has this changed
On Friday, Central Buses are bringing down to Coventry a "New straight from the factory bus" so I would presume that these are likely to be destined for the 1... However I may be wrong. The email said it will be in Broadgate on Friday for Catch the Bus Week.
Central Buses are attending Showbus 2016 at Donnington Park (Derby)
YJ16DDN - Optare Metrocity
YY16YJJ - ADL Enviro 200
http://www.showbus.com/entry/entry2016.htm
Looked on networkwestmidlands website for the new central buses 1 timetable & says
service only runs Mon to Friday no Saturday service yet it Said on vosa runs Monday to Saturday which is right
Quote from: Solo1 on July 03, 2016, 11:31:35 PM
Looked on networkwestmidlands website for the new central buses 1 timetable & says
service only runs Mon to Friday no Saturday service yet it Said on vosa runs Monday to Saturday which is right
I'd presume that VOSA is correct. The 20A extension to the University Hospital on Evenings and Sunday's also aren't shown on the Centro timetables.
Metrocity YJ16DDO has been on the 75 today.
Metrocity DDN on 75 today. Can't be long until these goes to Kidderminster?
YY16YJH now at Central Buses.
Picture - https://www.facebook.com/centralbusesfans/photos/pcb.1817319528499963/1817319401833309/?type=3&theater
Quote from: James4368 on July 07, 2016, 03:59:51 PM
YY16YJH now at Central Buses.
Picture - https://www.facebook.com/centralbusesfans/photos/pcb.1817319528499963/1817319401833309/?type=3&theater
Am I right in saying that is lwb?
Quote from: Dom on July 07, 2016, 04:01:07 PM
Am I right in saying that is lwb?
Yes that's LWB.
I hear three Cebtral vehicles are on hire/have been bought by D&G. One of which is an MPD apparently.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on July 16, 2016, 07:41:20 AM
I hear three Cebtral vehicles are on hire/have been bought by D&G. One of which is an MPD apparently.
WGM, ZBT and ZBR on hire I've been told.
Probably to cover some gha work
Quote from: Steveminor on July 16, 2016, 08:57:29 AM
Probably to cover some gha work
Yes, D&G have taken on a number of former Cheshire based GHA routes
SK15 GYA has made an ultra rare appearance on the 125 this morning I was told it was unlikely ever to be on the 125 as it is exclusive to the 16 in Tamworth
UID Metrocity on the X16 in Brum this morning
Central buses now have YY16YJJ as it was on the 75 this morning,
YY16YJH was on the 75 yesterday morning.
YJ16DDO is on 74 today
YY16YJJ & YJ16 DDN almost passing each other at Water Orton just before 15:00 on the 75 YJJ heading north & DDN south
Can confirm AE06ZBR, AE06ZBT AND EU06WGM are on loan to D&G, all three on the ex-GHA 42 Crewe-Congleton 20/07.
Quote from: mikestone on July 20, 2016, 06:51:23 PM
Can confirm AE06ZBR, AE06ZBT AND EU06WGM are on loan to GHA, all three on the 42 Crewe-Congleton today.
I think you mean D&G
Quote from: Winston on July 20, 2016, 07:00:18 PM
I think you mean D&G
how long are the 3 central buses on loan for
Quote from: Solo1 on July 20, 2016, 07:04:12 PM
how long are the 3 central buses on loan for
Until D&G buy their own, Central want them back or Central decide to sell them to D&G....
YY16YJH and YJJ are on 75 today
YJ16DDN is out on 78
Quote from: mikestone on July 21, 2016, 09:29:08 AM
Only stated on loan on the basis of what Tony said.
.
Salop advise they are also doing Bridgnorth town service
Quote from: mikestone on July 21, 2016, 05:35:22 PM
Only stated on loan on the basis of what Tony said.
.
Salop advise they are also doing Bridgnorth town service
And I'm going by what I was told by the MD of Central Buses
Quote from: Tony on July 21, 2016, 06:01:06 PM
And I'm going by what I was told by the MD of Central Buses
you mean MB of central buses😂
YY16 YJH is on the 89 today.
Quote from: karl724223 on July 21, 2016, 06:15:56 PM
you mean MB of central buses😂
Why? Because I know my stuff?
Quote from: Michael Bevan on July 23, 2016, 11:19:55 AM
Why? Because I know my stuff?
@Michael Bevan from my estimations they were having a joke on you
Quote from: RS on July 23, 2016, 12:42:05 PM
@Michael Bevan from my estimations they were having a joke on you
I know. I'm just getting sick of it.
I'm getting sick of reading through all the 'off topic' crap being posted in various threads by the select few, Winston
Routemaster
Metrocity YJ16DDL
Enviro 200 YY16NJH
Was on display at WMT30 today
Quote from: James4368 on July 24, 2016, 03:24:49 PM
Routemaster
Metrocity YJ16DDL
Enviro 200 YY16NJH
Was on display at WMT30 today
Enviro 200 was YY16YJH James
Coventry 1s are ADL 200s YY16YJH and YY16YJK.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/1p1z98
Two customers alighting with timetables obtained on the bus.
YY16 YJJ and PN03 ULU on the 75 this evening
Quote from: Dutsey on July 25, 2016, 08:17:13 PM
YY16 YJJ and PN03 ULU on the 75 this evening
Will the Trident be a regular turn om the 75 over the summer?
Optare YJ16 DDN is on Coventry 1 today. Pity an emaculate brand new bus has be taken around a building site like New Century Park off Binley Road but for once in a long time I rode down a road on a bus before the residents moved in (mind you the houses aren't built)!
Smart bus, smart driver pity about the 1 on a piece of paper in the windscreen! Central Buses gave the impression of being better than the average low cost WMCA tendered operation.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on July 25, 2016, 10:34:06 PM
Will the Trident be a regular turn om the 75 over the summer?
I have no idea
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on July 25, 2016, 10:34:06 PM
Will the Trident be a regular turn om the 75 over the summer?
Another Trident is on the 75 today.
On the 75 today -
YY16YJJ
PN03UMJ
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on July 25, 2016, 10:34:06 PM
Will the Trident be a regular turn om the 75 over the summer?
I think they will be Ashley as they are used on schools normally so can be used on other routes in the summer.
YJ57XVX is on the 74 today.
EU06KPA is on the 35B today, think it's usually a solo
Just passed Central Buses Dart running dead on A45 being chased by 900. I saw the Dart in the distance! Good to see it had Central Buses on the destination not the dreaded Sorry Not in Service.
YJ57 XVX currently broken down at Russells Hall Hospital
What is used on 125 at the moment as the Metrocity buses are used on other services when will they be at kidderminster as diamond are on there with a 13 reg bus
MetroCity on 297
PD1021409/84 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Bridgenorth (Sainsubry's)
Finish Point: Bridgenorth (Sainsubry's)
Via: Sydney Cottage, Richard Drive
Service Number: 101
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 22-JUL-2016
Other Details: Monday to Saturday
YX64VLZ and a Optare Versa were on the 75 today.
YJ57XVT is on the 75 today.
YJ16DDL is on the 78 today.
YY16YJJ has been on the 75 today.
YY16YJK was on the 75 today.
PD1021409/66 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted: Operating between Tamworth, Corporation Street and Lichfield Bus Station given service number X55 effective from 12-Sep-2016. To amend Timetable.
Cutting the ye olde timetable possibly?
YJ16 DDL is on the 125
Central Buses are offering a free shuttle service to the Canwell Show from Sutton Coldfield and Tamworth.
Link to timetable: http://www.canwellshow.co.uk/downloads/canwell-shuttle-service-2016.pdf
EU06JVW is on the 75 today.
YJ57XVT on the 101 service in Bridgnorth yesterday. :)
I am curious to know how the X55 is doing in Tamworth?
Buses on the 125 today are the 3 Metrocities :
YJ16DDL
YJ16DDN
YJ16DDO
YY16YJK is on the 75 today.
YJ16DDO and YJ57XVW are on the 1 today
PN03ULV is on the 75 today
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on August 11, 2016, 04:37:11 PM
YJ16DDO and YJ57XVW are on the 1 today
PN03ULV is on the 75 today
YY16YJH (I think) is also on the 75.
EU06 WGM isn't on the 696, it's with D&G.
Quote from: 646 on August 11, 2016, 09:43:25 PM
EU06 WGM isn't on the 696, it's with D&G.
Must have been another Dart on the 696 then.
YY16YJH was on the 125 yesterday
Can anyone tell me what's on the 75 tommorow please
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 16, 2016, 05:42:25 PM
Can anyone tell me what's on the 75 tommorow please
Hold on, let me just check...
(https://budfoxnews.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/crystal-ball-gazer.jpg)
;D
Well you're on
@Stu, can you get me tomorrow's winning lottery numbers... 8)
what happened to the metrocitys for 125 as envrio was on there yesterday
YJ16DDN on the 16 today - seen it at Ventura Park in Tamworth on my drive into work.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 16, 2016, 05:42:25 PM
Can anyone tell me what's on the 75 tommorow please
I've just photographed YJ57 XVY in Water Orton
PD1021409/74 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Tamworth and Kingsbury School given service number 16/16S effective from 03-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.
PD1021409/75 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Cancellation Accepted by SN: Operating between Fazeley and Birmingham, Priory Queensway given service number X16 effective from 03-Sep-2016.
12 plate E200 on the 1 today (Odd hour Chapelfields)
Quote from: 2206 on August 18, 2016, 02:03:10 PM
PD1021409/74 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Tamworth and Kingsbury School given service number 16/16S effective from 03-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.
PD1021409/75 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Cancellation Accepted by SN: Operating between Fazeley and Birmingham, Priory Queensway given service number X16 effective from 03-Sep-2016.
Aren't they meant to be running a Brum service all day?
Quote from: Kevin on August 18, 2016, 08:06:29 PM
Aren't they meant to be running a Brum service all day?
Perhaps they might re register it under the X17 number?
Quote from: Adam 404 on August 18, 2016, 08:23:38 PM
Perhaps they might re register it under the X17 number?
The registration for the 16 also has the X16 (116 replacement) and X17 (M42 service, old X16 service) included on it, VOSA not terribly good at including this information it seems.
Traveline has the full timetable - they've managed to get this one under the right operator!
Timetable looks good at last a Tamworth Brum service fast hope it does well
I am still surprise no-one has tried running the old X76 route from Tamworth to Birmingham via Fazeley, drayton manor
PD1021409/85 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Walsall, Hatherton Road
Finish Point: Burton upon Tren, tBoots Distribution Centre
Via: Lichfield
Service Number: X61
Service Type: Limited Stop
Effective Date: 02-NOV-2016
Other Details: Daily (excluding 25/12/2016)
PD1021409/86 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Erdington Six Ways
Finish Point: Burton upon Trent, Boots Distribution Centre
Via: Lichfield
Service Number: X11
Service Type: Limited Stop
Effective Date: 10-OCT-2016
Other Details: Daily (excluding 25/12/2016)
Quote from: Winston on August 22, 2016, 12:24:42 PM
PD1021409/85 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Walsall, Hatherton Road
Finish Point: Burton upon Tren, tBoots Distribution Centre
Via: Lichfield
Service Number: X61
Service Type: Limited Stop
Effective Date: 02-NOV-2016
Other Details: Daily (excluding 25/12/2016)
PD1021409/86 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Erdington Six Ways
Finish Point: Burton upon Trent, Boots Distribution Centre
Via: Lichfield
Service Number: X11
Service Type: Limited Stop
Effective Date: 10-OCT-2016
Other Details: Daily (excluding 25/12/2016)
wondr if these would be staff buses or if the general public could use them, would be handy to have a Walsall-Burton service.
Quote from: woody38 on August 22, 2016, 02:01:45 PM
wondr if these would be staff buses or if the general public could use them, would be handy to have a Walsall-Burton service.
Well as they have been licensed as PCV services, I would think they would be obliged to carry the public, not sure how easy details will be made available though!
The hires to D&G may be on their way back, as ten E200s have appeared on D&Gs official fleetlist - three of which started with Stansted Transit, two via Webbers and one via Bakers!
Quote from: woody38 on August 22, 2016, 02:01:45 PM
wondr if these would be staff buses or if the general public could use them, would be handy to have a Walsall-Burton service.
Looks like 2 journeys at what I assume are shift times for Boots on the Walsall service, just comes off the A38 and goes to Centrum 100, neither route goes near Burton town centre.
Quote from: woody38 on August 22, 2016, 02:01:45 PM
wondr if these would be staff buses or if the general public could use them, would be handy to have a Walsall-Burton service.
the X11 is staff that work at boots so would of thought the other would of been the same
Quote from: mikestone on August 23, 2016, 10:55:25 AM
The hires to D&G may be on their way back, as ten E200s have appeared on D&Gs official fleetlist - three of which started with Stansted Transit, two via Webbers and one via Bakers!
201, 202, 203 are now back from D&G.
YY16YJH on Lichfield rail replacement today - showing standby, appeared to have duplicated Midland Classic YJ16DXU, which seems a little small to replace a train.
YJ16 DDL on the 1 in Coventry this afteroon.
Timetable up for the new X16 Tamworth to Birmingham, says new buses anybody know what type they are
Quote from: woody38 on September 02, 2016, 08:47:59 PM
Timetable up for the new X16 Tamworth to Birmingham, says new buses anybody know what type they are
They are nicking the Enviro 200's off the 1 service.
YY16YJH on the X16 yesterday. https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.561729320665672.1073742246.369276339910972/585249441646993/?type=3&theater
Meanwhile, on the 1 service... https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.561729320665672.1073742246.369276339910972/585249441646993/?type=3&theater (YJ57XVT)
I thought the new envrios were for the 1 Service on Coventry
Quote from: Solo1 on September 04, 2016, 01:38:40 PM
I thought the new envrios were for the 1 Service on Coventry
Given the nature of the new 16/X16/X17 route, we will allocate the three new Enviro200s where possible.
The two 63-plate Enviro200s will move to service 1 in due course.
Quote from: Central Buses on September 04, 2016, 01:59:27 PM
Given the nature of the new 16/X16/X17 route, we will allocate the three new Enviro200s where possible.
The two 63-plate Enviro200s will move to service 1 in due course.
I thought the 2 63 reg envrios are branded & for X55 somewhat will.be on x55 instead
Quote from: Solo1 on September 05, 2016, 08:43:03 AM
I thought the 2 63 reg envrios are branded & for X55 somewhat will.be on x55 instead
Two different ones each day.
PN03ULV (I think) was in Erdington at 12:05 on the 89.
SK15GYA is on the X16 today
16 plate Enviro 200 on the 74 today. Just seen it arriving into Walsall.
YY16YJH on the 74.
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The 15.45 X16 was YJ57XVW and YX63ZXL what I assume was the 16.50 arriving in Tamworth, haviing earlier passed it showing Central Buses, and a 16-reg E200 heading in on the X16.
Are the 63 plates still branded?
Why have they de-branded the X55? I thought that this was doing well?
Quote from: Dutsey on September 07, 2016, 11:21:22 AM
Why have they de-branded the X55? I thought that this was doing well?
The decision to de-brand the two vehicles used on this route is not performance-based.
We will be deploying alternative vehicles in due course and did not wish for inappropriately-branded vehicles to be used elsewhere in the interim.
Quote from: Central Buses on September 07, 2016, 12:36:44 PM
The decision to de-brand the two vehicles used on this route is not performance-based.
We will be deploying alternative vehicles in due course and did not wish for inappropriately-branded vehicles to be used elsewhere in the interim.
That is good to hear - I have heard rumours that the route is not performing as well as expected but from what I have seen , it always appears a busy route.
Quote from: Dutsey on September 07, 2016, 01:14:27 PM
That is good to hear - I have heard rumours that the route is not performing as well as expected but from what I have seen , it always appears a busy route.
The service has osnly been running 3 days give it time, when on it on Tuesday 6 September there was about half a bus full when it left Corperation Street but a lot did leave the bus at Ventura & kingsvbury, there was 3 of us left on to Brum & 4 coming back.
The people who went to Brum seemed to like the fast link to Brum, my friend said she would use it again over the train, but the fares are more expensive than Arriva, Arriva did a Kingsbury flyer which was cheaper than the £5.50 return central charge, another point I kept hearing was there's no timetables, the timetables in Corperation Street where all old ones.
The driver,s where polite & frendly, the buses where on time at both ends, the only thing I had a problem with is Central buses do not do a daysaver so u have to make separate payments, example the X55 Lichfield to Tamworth & the X16 Tamworth to Birmingham
@woody38 - I think you're getting confused, the loadings comments refer to the X55, Winston
Oh OK cheers Winston for that
Quote from: woody38 on September 07, 2016, 04:59:20 PM
The service has osnly been running 3 days give it time, when on it on Tuesday 6 September there was about half a bus full when it left Corperation Street but a lot did leave the bus at Ventura & kingsvbury, there was 3 of us left on to Brum & 4 coming back.
The people who went to Brum seemed to like the fast link to Brum, my friend said she would use it again over the train, but the fares are more expensive than Arriva, Arriva did a Kingsbury flyer which was cheaper than the £5.50 return central charge, another point I kept hearing was there's no timetables, the timetables in Corperation Street where all old ones.
The driver,s where polite & frendly, the buses where on time at both ends, the only thing I had a problem with is Central buses do not do a daysaver so u have to make separate payments, example the X55 Lichfield to Tamworth & the X16 Tamworth to Birmingham
@woody38 - I think you're getting confused, the loadings comments refer to the X55, Winston
Our 2 Trip, Day and Weekly tickets in the area you refer to can be used on the full length of route X55, and 16/X16 between Tamworth and Kingsbury.
New Timetable for X55 starting Monday: http://www.centralbuses.com/news/service-changes-12th-september/
PD1021409/87 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Birmingham International Station
Finish Point: Chelmsley Wood, Interchange
Via:
Service Number: 91
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 24-OCT-2016
Other Details: Monday to Saturday
YX64VLZ and a Versa are on the 75 today
what service would a central buses envrio be going on to saw 1 heading up new john st towards hockley this morning
Quote from: Solo1 on September 22, 2016, 03:42:32 PM
what service would a central buses envrio be going on to saw 1 heading up new john st towards hockley this morning
If its a Short wheel base enviro possibly west brom services
Quote from: Solo1 on September 22, 2016, 03:42:32 PM
what service would a central buses envrio be going on to saw 1 heading up new john st towards hockley this morning
They use that petrol station just up there en route sometimes, same with Asda Queslett
X16 leaving Brum ~7:30 this morning had "Tamworth Estates" on the display rather than Tamworth
Haven't updated perhaps?
Quote from: Kevin on September 27, 2016, 07:38:23 AM
X16 leaving Brum ~7:30 this morning had "Tamworth Estates" on the display rather than Tamworth
Haven't updated perhaps?
Thanks for the observation.
The blind is updated, so likely driver mis-selection.
The blinds in all six 16-plate vehicles are due to be upgraded to white LED in due course so that will eliminate this issue.
YJ16DDL passed the Fox and Goose 10 minutes ago. On the Coleshill Road. Does anyone know what it was doing?
There is currently a 61E to Booth Street Metro Station
PD1021409/88 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Hall Green, Stratford Road/School Road
Finish Point: Birmingham International Station
Via: Acocks Green
Service Number: 875
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 24-OCT-2016
Other Details: Monday to Friday
Quote from: 2206 on October 18, 2016, 04:43:21 PM
PD1021409/88 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Hall Green, Stratford Road/School Road
Finish Point: Birmingham International Station
Via: Acocks Green
Service Number: 875
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 24-OCT-2016
Other Details: Monday to Friday
Hmm, interesting. I presume this is a new works service for Birmingham Business Park. Wonder what route it will take...
Quote from: Stu on October 18, 2016, 07:26:16 PM
Hmm, interesting. I presume this is a new works service for Birmingham Business Park. Wonder what route it will take...
http://www.centralbuses.com/files/2014/7696/7642/875_Timetable_241016.pdf
Quote from: 2206 on October 21, 2016, 08:10:33 PM
http://www.centralbuses.com/files/2014/7696/7642/875_Timetable_241016.pdf
Basically 11 to Swan and 900
Does anyone know where guilty village is because Central Buses operate their 74 service to there and I don't where it is.
It's "Gillity Village" and it's in Walsall. If you head east from walsall town centre (the direction of Barr Beacon) it's not far.
Quote from: BusFan94 on October 22, 2016, 08:49:12 AM
Does anyone know where guilty village is because Central Buses operate their 74 service to there and I don't where it is.
Turns left off the Birmingham Road at the Bell Inn, that estate up the side there
Quote from: BusFan94 on October 22, 2016, 08:49:12 AM
Does anyone know where guilty village is because Central Buses operate their 74 service to there and I don't where it is.
Quite an innocent place really
PN03UMJ is on (Redditch - Selly Oak - New Street) rail replacement today.
Quote from: 2206 on November 05, 2016, 11:51:16 AM
PN03UMJ is on (Redditch - Selly Oak - New Street) rail replacement today.
Think its a standby but has been doing Selly Oak New St non stop due to too many people wanting to get on at Selly Oak. Apparently a E200 is out on Redditch New St stoppers
Edit: YY16YJH is the E200
Small Bus Fleet Operator of the year for the 2nd year running. Congratulations
PD1021409/85 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Walsall, Hatherton Road and Burton upon Tren, tBoots Distribution Centre given service number X61 effective from 07-Jan-2017.
2. PD1021409/86 - CEN GROUP LIMITED, UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Erdington Six Ways and Burton upon Trent, Boots Distribution Centre given service number X11 effective from 07-Jan-2017
Trident 301 driving around today on the X11 with no rear bumper, therefore no rear numberplate
The X16 will be heading for the history books as Off Peak journeys are withdrawn...
http://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/blog/archives/alerts/bus-timetable-changes-2-january-2017
Seems a shame this is withdrawn so soon. Personally, I think operating down the M42 / M6 is a big put off to many passengers and obviously restricts the number of stops along routes. There are so many more potential delays on the motorway stretch.
Whenever I've seen an X16 in Birmingham loadings have always been in single figures, so sadly I'm not surprised it's being withdrawn.
Quote from: fleetline6477 on November 24, 2016, 05:27:02 PM
Seems a shame this is withdrawn so soon. Personally, I think operating down the M42 / M6 is a big put off to many passengers and obviously restricts the number of stops along routes. There are so many more potential delays on the motorway stretch.
We have tried our best with this and persevered as long as a commercial business allows. Unfortunately, patronage is well below that required with little foreseeable sign of the significant growth required and, with a heavy heart, we have had to withdraw.
The routing was a gamble but reliability has not proved to be a particular issue.
Quote from: Central Buses on November 24, 2016, 10:53:41 PM
We have tried our best with this and persevered as long as a commercial business allows. Unfortunately, patronage is well below that required with little foreseeable sign of the significant growth required and, with a heavy heart, we have had to withdraw.
The routing was a gamble but reliability has not proved to be a particular issue.
sorry Central that the service has not been a success have you tried advertising the service more in & around Tamworth I know loads of people who live in the Tamworth area & never new there was a fast link to Brum, many said they would use the service had they known about it.
Service 696 is to be withdrawn 2 Jan
Went on the 875 from The Swan Yardley to International Station today. I assume this is a CENTRO tendered route.
No timetables for the X16 were ever made available at Centro or NXWM offices at the Birmingham end, either. And with it missing out Tyburn Road, Minworth and Curdworth it's hardly surprising fewer people got on and off. Bit difficult to do so on the M6... Now its withdrawal will be an unwelcome reduction in public transport opportunities for Kingsbury, too.
Never saw any ads in the evening mail wonder if they
put ads in the Tamworth papers
YY16 YJH (fleet no 216) on the 1 at Cov station this afternoon.
Quote from: Solo1 on December 01, 2016, 03:51:27 PM
Never saw any ads in the evening mail wonder if they
put ads in the Tamworth papers
I do like central they are a good little bus company, but u can not start a new bus service without some kind of advertising or how are people going to realise it's there. When a new shop opens they advertise, in the paper, drops etc
in the early 90s choice travel took on withdrawn wm journeys on the 10' not quite the same because this was an established service, but the whole development was leaflet dropped with a timetable, route map, faretable even the buses they where useing.
Think I might have me a ride to Tamworth on New Years Eve, being the last day of operation of this direct route
Quote from: woody38 on December 07, 2016, 05:35:05 PM
I do like central they are a good little bus company, but u can not start a new bus service without some kind of advertising or how are people going to realise it's there. When a new shop opens they advertise, in the paper, drops etc
in the early 90s choice travel took on withdrawn wm journeys on the 10' not quite the same because this was an established service, but the whole development was leaflet dropped with a timetable, route map, faretable even the buses they where useing.
This is an argument I've used in the past.
I think it was Zaks, but whoever it was started a route running a route Walsall, Pelsall, Brownhills then Streets Corner to Lichfield, which didn't last long, probably as hardly anyone knew about it pre internet & the then main Walsall to Lichfield was the Arriva 61!
I bet hardly anyone remembers the 353 between Cannock & Walsall operated by both WMT & Stevensons, & the later version operated by TWM that served both Reedswood Sainsburys & Turnberry?
Versas YJ57XVW/YJ57XVY are on the X55 today
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on January 03, 2017, 04:35:17 PM
Versas YJ57XVW/YJ57XVY are on the X55 today
X55 allocated 2 Versas daily now.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on January 03, 2017, 09:26:53 PM
X55 allocated 2 Versas daily now.
I thought versa's were on 125
Quote from: Solo1 on January 03, 2017, 10:14:54 PM
I thought versa's were on 125
Metro cities on 125 now
All 3 saw use on the 78 service yesterday.
Fleet 218 on the 1 in Cov tonight has the brightest white LED destination blind I have ever seen. I bet the driver could see just as well with the headlamps turned off!
Fleet 201 and 202 now withdrawn awaiting sale.
PD1021409/88 26/02/2017 875 Cancellation Accepted by SN
Quote from: Central Buses on January 21, 2017, 03:27:52 PM
Fleet 201 and 202 now withdrawn awaiting sale.
Both now for sale on eBay.
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/2006-06-Alexander-Dennis-Dart-Bus-Plaxton-Pointer-37-Seater-2-available-/132078708602?_trkparms=aid%253D222007%2526algo%253DSIC.MBE%2526ao%253D1%2526asc%253D20150519202351%2526meid%253Db26808661d7c40bf8720f0c0d562f80e%2526pid%253D100408%2526rk%253D3%2526rkt%253D25%2526sd%253D192087166872&_trksid=p2056116.c100408.m2460
Quote from: Michael Bevan on January 29, 2017, 11:56:42 AM
Both now for sale on eBay.
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/2006-06-Alexander-Dennis-Dart-Bus-Plaxton-Pointer-37-Seater-2-available-/132078708602?_trkparms=aid%253D222007%2526algo%253DSIC.MBE%2526ao%253D1%2526asc%253D20150519202351%2526meid%253Db26808661d7c40bf8720f0c0d562f80e%2526pid%253D100408%2526rk%253D3%2526rkt%253D25%2526sd%253D192087166872&_trksid=p2056116.c100408.m2460
Relatively cheap too
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 29, 2017, 12:54:34 PM
Relatively cheap too
You bid for it.
The minimum the seller will accept has not been met yet either.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 29, 2017, 12:54:34 PM
Relatively cheap too
How do you work that out???
It's an auction, the reserve hasn't been met yet & therefore you have no idea what the asking price is.
Quote from: the trainbasher on January 26, 2017, 01:35:45 AM
PD1021409/88 26/02/2017 875 Cancellation Accepted by SN
"Service withdrawn due to negligable patronage (26/02/17)"
You have to wonder why they thought one journey a day at 5am would be a viable success. Now TfWM will have to change all the bus stop flags again! :D
Quote from: Stu on February 01, 2017, 06:33:00 PM
"Service withdrawn due to negligable patronage (26/02/17)"
You have to wonder why they thought one journey a day at 5am would be a viable success. Now TfWM will have to change all the bus stop flags again! :D
The service was installed with Section 106 funding at the request of local stakeholders. Unfortunately, a sustainable client base has not been forthcoming.
Shame the 875 is being withdrawn I used it once but the second time I went out to catch it the driver didn't stop so I have to use the car to get to the International Station now. Since the introduction of the X1 there is no suitable bus to get me to the station for the 0600 London train.
PD1021409/90 Registered (Short notice)
CEN GROUP LIMITED
Route: Tamworth, Victoria Road to Silverlink via Glascote Road
Service number: 4
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 02 May 2017
PD1021409/66 Registered (Short notice)
CEN GROUP LIMITED
Route: Tamworth, Corporation Street to Lichfield Bus Station via Hopwas, Tamworth road
Service number: X55
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 02 May 2017
PD1021409/89 Registered (Short notice)
CEN GROUP LIMITED
Route: Tamworth, Corporation Street to Tamworth, Corporation Street via Coton Green
Service number: 3B
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 02 May 2017
PD1021409/74 Registered (Short notice)
CEN GROUP LIMITED
Route: Tamworth to Kingsbury School via Kingsbury
Service number: 16 (16S, X16)
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 02 May 2017
Be interesting to see how Arriva react
Quote from: ntw456 on March 29, 2017, 07:23:31 PM
Be interesting to see how Arriva react
It certainly will be, particularly with PeopleMovers introducing a service to Amington as well!
As they are short notice perhaps they are covering Arriva reductions and alteration as a result?
PD1021409/84 Cancelled
CEN GROUP LIMITED
Route: Bridgenorth (Sainsubry's) to Bridgenorth (Sainsubry's) via Sydney Cottage, Richard Drive
Service number: 101
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 05 Jun 2017
wonder how long the 125 will last
Quote from: Cedric on March 30, 2017, 12:20:28 PM
wonder how long the 125 will last
I must admit, I did think that about the 125 & the KR outstation
Quote from: Winston on March 30, 2017, 12:22:04 PM
I must admit, I did think that about the 125 & the KR outstation
Do the 125 and 101 interwork?
Quote from: Winston on March 30, 2017, 11:59:42 AM
PD1021409/84 Cancelled
CEN GROUP LIMITED
Route: Bridgenorth (Sainsubry's) to Bridgenorth (Sainsubry's) via Sydney Cottage, Richard Drive
Service number: 101
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 05 Jun 2017
The spelling though....
Quote from: Dom on March 30, 2017, 12:49:54 PM
The spelling though....
that is a common spelling mistake people from out of the area make
To allay some of the concerns, service 101 is up for standard re-tender along with all of the other "ex-GHA" work. It is standard practice to enter a cancellation for the service ahead of this process.
Services 101 and 125 do not inter-work, they are crewed entirely separately.
Don't forget service 101 was only added as recently as July last year, so this does not necessarily bring the viability of an established outstation into question.
Fleet 201 and 202 are now reinstated.
@Central Buses what's the reason behind the Tamworth local routes then
Quote from: Cedric on March 30, 2017, 01:21:42 PM
that is a common spelling mistake people from out of the area make
To be honest, it was the mis-spelling of 'Sainsburys' that I noticed first :D
From 23/04/17 Central Buses 61 will be a commercial service. This service will be curtailed to operate between Perry Barr and Handsworth, Booth Street operating to a revised timetable. The section of route between Booth Street, Cape Hill and Bearwood will no longer be served. The frequency will be reduced to hourly.
http://www.centralbuses.com/news/april-service-changes-2017/
http://www.centralbuses.com/files/3114/9140/2986/61_1704.png
PD1021409/91 Registered (Short notice)
CEN GROUP LIMITED
Route: Reddicap Heath, Reddicap Hill to Birmingham, Corporation Street via Walmley
Service number: 108
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 30 May 2016
We now offer a £4.90 Day Ranger ticket, valid across our network as well as Midland Classic, D&G Bus and Select Bus Services. There is also a £3.00 child equivalent.
Catch our X55 (FAST from Tamworth) and connect at Lichfield with Midland Classic X12 (FAST to Burton-upon-Trent)!
Quote from: Solo1 on April 09, 2017, 07:31:17 AM
We now offer a £4.90 Day Ranger ticket, valid across our network as well as Midland Classic, D&G Bus and Select Bus Services. There is also a £3.00 child equivalent.
Catch our X55 (FAST from Tamworth) and connect at Lichfield with Midland Classic X12 (FAST to Burton-upon-Trent)!
Hate to think how much thats going to cost me if I did Walsall to Burton for the day?
Or would it be simpler using the train via New Street?
Quote from: Solo1 on April 09, 2017, 07:31:17 AM
We now offer a £4.90 Day Ranger ticket, valid across our network as well as Midland Classic, D&G Bus and Select Bus Services. There is also a £3.00 child equivalent.
Catch our X55 (FAST from Tamworth) and connect at Lichfield with Midland Classic X12 (FAST to Burton-upon-Trent)!
Excellent value! I only hope I can find the time to give it a go.
Quote from: Will on April 09, 2017, 11:50:34 AM
It's because Central Buses are secretly financed/bankrolled by Julian Peddle the big cheese in charge of D&G Bus that's why this has happened & before anyone asks how I know I'm not at liberty to say but I know it's true
Hi Will,
There is no connection with D&G Bus other than a combined insurance group. I would politely remind you about the consequences of publically posting inaccurate or disparaging comments about businesses you have no connection with.
Quote from: Westy on April 09, 2017, 11:14:05 AM
Hate to think how much thats going to cost me if I did Walsall to Burton for the day?
Or would it be simpler using the train via New Street?
It would cost you £4.90.
Quote from: Solo1 on April 09, 2017, 07:31:17 AM
We now offer a £4.90 Day Ranger ticket, valid across our network as well as Midland Classic, D&G Bus and Select Bus Services. There is also a £3.00 child equivalent.
Catch our X55 (FAST from Tamworth) and connect at Lichfield with Midland Classic X12 (FAST to Burton-upon-Trent)!
Where is that advertised please? The ticket is mentioned on the Midland Classic website, but with no mention of Central buses.
Quote from: mikestone on April 09, 2017, 01:54:04 PM
Where is that advertised please? The ticket is mentioned on the Midland Classic website, but with no mention of Central buses.
It's posted on their Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/centralbuses/posts/10154497423513733
Quote from: Central Buses on April 09, 2017, 12:25:58 PM
It would cost you £4.90.
Yeah but I'd have to either use my Nbus to Walsall then get to Lichfield via Arriva, as theres only one Central bus per day each direction, then X12 to Burton or Daysaver to either Sutton, Four Oaks or Mere Green & X12 from there.
Then you have to be careful you come back early enough as well!
Three return journeys on 35B?
Quote from: Westy on April 09, 2017, 10:08:27 PM
Yeah but I'd have to either use my Nbus to Walsall then get to Lichfield via Arriva, as theres only one Central bus per day each direction, then X12 to Burton or Daysaver to either Sutton, Four Oaks or Mere Green & X12 from there.
Then you have to be careful you come back early enough as well!
Jesus.... You've got an amazing value ticket here and all you do is moan about how much it would cost and how to get to where you can use it?
I think this sort of co-operation is superb, well done to those involved in the deal
Quote from: Westy on April 09, 2017, 10:08:27 PM
Yeah but I'd have to either use my Nbus to Walsall then get to Lichfield via Arriva, as theres only one Central bus per day each direction, then X12 to Burton or Daysaver to either Sutton, Four Oaks or Mere Green & X12 from there.
Then you have to be careful you come back early enough as well!
@Westy - All it needs is a bit of planning!
08:30 35B Walsall Bus Stn to Lichfield Bus Stn 09:24
09:50 812 Lichfield Bus Stn - Burton, New Street 11:02
14:20 X12 Burton, New Street - Lichfield Bus Stn 14:42
14:55 X55 Lichfield Bus Stn - Tamworth, Corp. Street 15:15
15:50 X55 Tamworth, Corp. Street - Lichfield Bus Stn 16:10
16:23 35B Lichfield Bus Stn to Walsall Bus Stn 17:20
Quote from: Westy on April 09, 2017, 10:08:27 PM
Yeah but I'd have to either use my Nbus to Walsall then get to Lichfield via Arriva, as theres only one Central bus per day each direction, then X12 to Burton or Daysaver to either Sutton, Four Oaks or Mere Green & X12 from there.
Then you have to be careful you come back early enough as well!
http://www.centralbuses.com/files/6714/3066/7054/35B.pdf
Quote from: Adam 404 on April 10, 2017, 07:32:25 AM
@Westy - All it needs is a bit of planning!
08:30 35B Walsall Bus Stn to Lichfield Bus Stn 09:24
09:50 812 Lichfield Bus Stn - Burton, New Street 11:02
14:20 X12 Burton, New Street - Lichfield Bus Stn 14:42
14:55 X55 Lichfield Bus Stn - Tamworth, Corp. Street 15:15
15:50 X55 Tamworth, Corp. Street - Lichfield Bus Stn 16:10
16:23 35B Lichfield Bus Stn to Walsall Bus Stn 17:20
If you want to go to Walsall, why would you get a bus to Tamworth, only to get a bus back to Lichfield?
The 16:00 from Burton does get into Lichfield at 16:22, 35B to Walsall arrives at 16:23, though if the X12 is late you may end up missing the last 35B.
Quote from: 2206 on April 10, 2017, 08:22:52 AM
http://www.centralbuses.com/files/6714/3066/7054/35B.pdf
If you want to go to Walsall, why would you get a bus to Tamworth, only to get a bus back to Lichfield?
The 16:00 from Burton does get into Lichfield at 16:22, 35B to Walsall arrives at 16:23, though if the X12 is late you may end up missing the last 35B.
That's why I added Tamworth in as it is always nice to go to various places and was weary with a delay on the X12
Is it only central buses you can buy it from & use on midland classic d&g select or wil the other 3 firms sell them soon so u could go burton litchfield tamworth etc
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on April 09, 2017, 10:17:36 PM
Three return journeys on 35B?
Three?
Thought there was only one each way?
Quote from: Westy on April 10, 2017, 01:30:24 PM
Three?
Thought there was only one each way?
http://www.centralbuses.com/files/6714/3066/7054/35B.pdf
5 journeys each way.
Quote from: 2206 on April 10, 2017, 01:32:45 PM
http://www.centralbuses.com/files/6714/3066/7054/35B.pdf
5 journeys each way.
Shows you the last time I looked at that timetable!
Quote from: Westy on April 10, 2017, 05:38:05 PM
Shows you the last time I looked at that timetable!
It has never been as little as 1 journey in each direction though.
Let us know if you need any further info - email@centralbuses.com
Quote from: Solo1 on April 10, 2017, 12:05:59 PM
Is it only central buses you can buy it from & use on midland classic d&g select or wil the other 3 firms sell them soon so u could go burton litchfield tamworth etc
I've mentioned it on the staffordshire group so may get a reply there - D&G have mention of a day return fare that is dearer!
Quote from: Central Buses on April 10, 2017, 05:40:03 PM
It has never been as little as 1 journey in each direction though.
Let us know if you need any further info - email@centralbuses.com
Wasnt it one journey each way when you had it off Arriva?
Quote from: Westy on April 11, 2017, 12:54:29 PM
Wasnt it one journey each way when you had it off Arriva?
Arriva ran it every 2 hours, interworked it in Walsall with the 35A and in Lichfield with the 112 to Sutton when that still ran
Quote from: 2206 on March 24, 2017, 04:53:01 PM
PD1021409/90 Registered (Short notice)
CEN GROUP LIMITED
Route: Tamworth, Victoria Road to Silverlink via Glascote Road
Service number: 4
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 02 May 2017
PD1021409/66 Registered (Short notice)
CEN GROUP LIMITED
Route: Tamworth, Corporation Street to Lichfield Bus Station via Hopwas, Tamworth road
Service number: X55
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 02 May 2017
PD1021409/89 Registered (Short notice)
CEN GROUP LIMITED
Route: Tamworth, Corporation Street to Tamworth, Corporation Street via Coton Green
Service number: 3B
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 02 May 2017
PD1021409/74 Registered (Short notice)
CEN GROUP LIMITED
Route: Tamworth to Kingsbury School via Kingsbury
Service number: 16 (16S, X16)
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 02 May 2017
Timetables on Traveline.
3B is Every 30 mins
4 is to be Every 15 mins departing at clock face times from Tamworth Town Centre (00, 15, 30 & 45)
PD1021409/92 Registered (Short notice)
CEN GROUP LIMITED
Route: Stourbridge bus Station to Halesowen Bus Station via Hasbury
Service number: 142
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 30 May 2017
Quote from: 2206 on April 21, 2017, 09:09:40 PM
PD1021409/92 Registered (Short notice)
CEN GROUP LIMITED
Route: Stourbridge bus Station to Halesowen Bus Station via Hasbury
Service number: 142
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 30 May 2017
I give it 3 weeks
One of the Tridents is on Birmingham New Street to Redditch rail replacement today.
Quote from: Chris on April 23, 2017, 06:15:47 PM
Bring back the 248
Meh the 142 is well used in peaks
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 23, 2017, 08:07:51 PM
Meh the 142 is well used in peaks
Problem is, it's not a good standalone route, when it was the 247/8 not only was it reliable but also offered people a wide variety of destinations.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 23, 2017, 08:11:40 PM
Problem is, it's not a good standalone route, when it was the 247/8 not only was it reliable but also offered people a wide variety of destinations.
I remembered the 248C that used to drop me off at Halesowen ON TIME and before Birmingham Coach Company on the 9C
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 23, 2017, 08:11:40 PM
Problem is, it's not a good standalone route, when it was the 247/8 not only was it reliable but also offered people a wide variety of destinations.
Yes I agree. The changing of the 247/248 was one which hasn't really worked.
Quote from: Chris on April 23, 2017, 08:38:35 PM
I remembered the 248C that used to drop me off at Halesowen ON TIME and before Birmingham Coach Company on the 9C
I think that there is too many concessionary passes used during the day on the 142. However in the morning when kids have to go to school they pick up a fair bit of money. 142 is a long established route and was a shock to read the withdrawal. In my opinion they've took on too much work. They could have got a bus out early and done a few trips on the 142 before going onto the 17 for the rest of the day seeing as thought the 17 starts so late
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 24, 2017, 07:29:51 AM
I think that there is too many concessionary passes used during the day on the 142. However in the morning when kids have to go to school they pick up a fair bit of money. 142 is a long established route and was a shock to read the withdrawal. In my opinion they've took on too much work. They could have got a bus out early and done a few trips on the 142 before going onto the 17 for the rest of the day seeing as thought the 17 starts so late
That is definitely an option. Also with the 244 only being hourly between Halesoweb and the QE, and the 004 now out of Harborne there is the possibility that side of the route could have picked up.
Central Buses is to get an outstation at Tamworth it appears.
http://www.centralbuses.com/vacancies/
Wonder where the central buses tamworth depot is as a guess is where tamworth bus & coach were unless its still.usef to.sell buses from there
Looking on their website, the new timetables for the 3b, 4 & X55 have a picture of a Wright Eclipse 2. Will these be the vehicles used I wonder...
http://www.centralbuses.com/news/30may-changes/
this seams interesting , the 142 connecting with the 125 . and as article say you can buy your tickets
to get into WMSP . the park used to have mini buses to take people around , do not know if they
still have got them
Quote from: Cedric on April 28, 2017, 10:36:32 PM
http://www.centralbuses.com/news/30may-changes/
this seams interesting , the 142 connecting with the 125 . and as article say you can buy your tickets
to get into WMSP . the park used to have mini buses to take people around , do not know if they
still have got them
142 arrives xx43, 125 departs xx10 off stourbridge
Quote from: Adam 404 on April 28, 2017, 10:07:23 PM
Looking on their website, the new timetables for the 3b, 4 & X55 have a picture of a Wright Eclipse 2. Will these be the vehicles used I wonder...
On the news section for Tamworth changes it says 'Your Xpre55 (X55) is getting a makeover and continues to provide 2 buses each hour daytime Monday to Saturday to and from Lichfield and Tamworth fast along the A51, Lichfield Road via Hopwas' Maybe that makeover is some Eclipse 2s ?
Quote from: the trainbasher on April 28, 2017, 10:52:29 PM
142 arrives xx43, 125 departs xx10 off stourbridge
According to Network West Midlands the 142 service is to be operated by Hansons??
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 29, 2017, 04:12:16 PM
According to Network West Midlands the 142 service is to be operated by Hansons??
Hansons timetable is completely different and will benefit me more.... They competing against each other???
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 29, 2017, 05:19:23 PM
Hansons timetable is completely different and will benefit me more.... They competing against each other???
Possibly. Combined Central and Hansons will maintain a rough 30 minute frequency.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 29, 2017, 04:12:16 PM
According to Network West Midlands the 142 service is to be operated by Hansons??
I'm going off what Central Buses have published on their site
As far as I can find on VOSA, there is no Hansons registration for the 142
If you re-check site you will see that this is a mistake by network west mids.
Seen in Tamworth today were
3 - BU12LJL
16 - YY16YJH, YJ57XVX
X55 - YJ57XVT, YX63ZXL
4 - YX64VLZ, YX63ZXK
Timetables available in tourist office and heritage shop.
Quick question for
@Central Buses Just downloaded your new timetable for 142 and noticed the picture of the bus in your livery looks like a Wright Pulsar which you haven't got unless you have some ordered?
This morning the X16 operating via Junction 5, Castle Vale, A47 and Nechells. Rather its normal line of route via Minworth.
X16 was going along newtown row to night to Tamworth
Quote from: Solo1 on May 16, 2017, 11:19:30 PM
X16 was going along newtown row to night to Tamworth
Any port in a storm, so to speak
Been some creative diversions the last two days I have to say
Long dart on 125
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 17, 2017, 12:21:27 PM
Long dart on 125
And? They get on the 125 all the time along with the entire Central Buses fleet (apart from deckers).
Central Buses are launching a sale for tickets in Tamworth until August.
Just noticed that the 108 operated by Central Buses will run via Penns Lane and through Erdington rather than Eachelhurst Road and Tyburn Road. A big mistake in my opinion as it is very well used down this stretch of road. We didn't pick too many people up on Penns Lane when we ran the 115.
It also looks like it will be a circle service finishing in Erdington, and will serve Lower parade in Sutton too
http://www.centralbuses.com/files/8314/9556/0484/108.pdf
Central Buses are to operate the S1 service from June.
Quote from: John on May 23, 2017, 09:01:22 PM
Just noticed that the 108 operated by Central Buses will run via Penns Lane and through Erdington rather than Eachelhurst Road and Tyburn Road. A big mistake in my opinion as it is very well used down this stretch of road. We didn't pick too many people up on Penns Lane when we ran the 115.
It also looks like it will be a circle service finishing in Erdington, and will serve Lower parade in Sutton too
http://www.centralbuses.com/files/8314/9556/0484/108.pdf
That looks a very strange route. And i can't imagine anyone travelling from Erdington out to walmley and new Hall that early in the morning
Central Buses are going to operate the S1 Solihull Circular via Damson Wood, every 30 minutes.
http://www.centralbuses.com/news/050617changes/
This ticket that is valid for Central Buses, Midland Classic, D&G and Select....
Do Midland Classic actually sell it? Or is it just a Central Buses ticket that's valid on other companies?
I only ask because I found out to my cost this morning that Select Buses don't and kinda ruined my plans for the day lol...
Quote from: Kevin on May 27, 2017, 09:59:44 AM
This ticket that is valid for Central Buses, Midland Classic, D&G and Select....
Do Midland Classic actually sell it? Or is it just a Central Buses ticket that's valid on other companies?
I only ask because I found out to my cost this morning that Select Buses don't and kinda ruined my plans for the day lol...
They all sell it. Unfortunately you've probably come across a driver who's never been asked for one or hasn't been briefed, they always exist with any company.
Quote from: Kevin on May 27, 2017, 09:59:44 AM
This ticket that is valid for Central Buses, Midland Classic, D&G and Select....
Do Midland Classic actually sell it? Or is it just a Central Buses ticket that's valid on other companies?
I only ask because I found out to my cost this morning that Select Buses don't and kinda ruined my plans for the day lol...
Day+:
http://www.midlandclassic.com/fares-and-tickets/
Quote from: andy41 on May 27, 2017, 10:15:08 AM
They all sell it. Unfortunately you've probably come across a driver who's never been asked for one or hasn't been briefed, they always exist with any company.
Driver knew it exists, but said he doesn't sell them
Quote from: Adam 404 on May 25, 2017, 07:48:19 PM
Central Buses are to operate the S1 service from June.
Timetable here
http://www.centralbuses.com/files/8614/9573/6131/S1_050617.pdf
Have Central Buses got any additional buses due for their increased work commitments?
A President on 2 of the 108 journies again this morning. Hopefully this is a regular occurrence
Quote from: John on May 31, 2017, 08:37:43 AM
A President on 2 of the 108 journies again this morning. Hopefully this is a regular occurrence
@John, PN03 UMJ did the 17:25 108 ex Birmingham yesterday.
Quote from: P419 EJW on May 31, 2017, 08:52:35 AM
@John, PN03 UMJ did the 17:25 108 ex Birmingham yesterday.
That would explain where the president running NIS down Marsh Hill about 18:50 was coming from
What do these buses do in between the 108 journeys?
Quote from: fleetline6477 on May 31, 2017, 09:45:54 PM
What do these buses do in between the 108 journeys?
91 service & from June 5 S1
Quote from: Winston on May 28, 2017, 12:44:15 PM
Have Central Buses got any additional buses due for their increased work commitments?
We have procured an Optare Versa.
Quote from: Solo1 on June 01, 2017, 12:18:33 AM
91 service & from June 5 S1
Not correct.
This week two AM and PM journeys are standalone off an inspection run-back, with the other journey sitting in front of 88.
From next week, the AM journeys will sit in front of 61, 88 and S1 respectively and the PM journeys behind S1 and 42.
The board on service 91 operates 75 peak extras.
PN03ULU is on the 108
Timetable on NWM hasn't been updated with the new route or times yet
Quote from: Adam 404 on May 25, 2017, 07:48:19 PM
Central Buses are to operate the S1 service from June.
On not quite the same route - Central's S1 will proceed straight down Damson Lane, rather than via Rowood Drive and Walsgrave Drive, spreading the routes out a little more, with the X12 still going via Rowood. This Central S1 is rather a late start and early finish, though - presumably aiming at older shoppers rather than commuters.
Quote from: hussra on June 05, 2017, 09:23:51 AM
On not quite the same route - Central's S1 will proceed straight down Damson Lane, rather than via Rowood Drive and Walsgrave Drive, spreading the routes out a little more, with the X12 still going via Rowood. This Central S1 is rather a late start and early finish, though - presumably aiming at older shoppers rather than commuters.
Should be the other way around, twisting roads like Rowood Drive should be the domain of local routes and big buses should stick to the direct route
Personal opinion though so it's irrelevant
Quote from: Kevin on June 05, 2017, 06:45:22 PM
Should be the other way around, twisting roads like Rowood Drive should be the domain of local routes and big buses should stick to the direct route
Personal opinion though so it's irrelevant
No disagreement there. (Am I misremembering, or did the 966 go via Damson Lane when it was a New Thing?)
YX64VLZ is out on the S1
Central Buses currently have a new Optare Versa en route for the fleet. Two others are also being temporary stored at their Perry Barr Garage.
YJ57 XWD, XWG and XWF are the Versa's that have arrived. I'm told Central Buses are only keeping one. However I'm not sure which one.
Quote from: James4368 on June 07, 2017, 11:58:13 AM
YX64VLZ is out on the S1
Also spotted on the 108 this evening (3rd departure), judging by the timetable I think this bus would also do the first evening 108 run
Central Buses have kept Versa YJ57 XWG to become part of the fleet. The other two Versa's (XWD and XWF) that were being temporarily stored in the yard has now moved to Centrebus in Leicester.
SK15GYA is out on the S1
PD1021409/74 Registered
CEN GROUP LIMITED
Route: Tamworth to Kingsbury School via Kingsbury
Service number: 16 (16S, X16)
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 31 Jul 2017
PD1021409/94 Cancelled
CEN GROUP LIMITED
Route: Bridgnorth Sainsbury's to Bridgnorth Sainsbury's via The Grove Estate
Service number: 101
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 31 Jul 2017
YJ16DDO is on the S1
How are the Central Services in Tamworth doing?
Quote from: Dutsey on June 19, 2017, 04:18:30 PM
How are the Central Services in Tamworth doing?
From what I can see they seem to be doggedly and efficiently getting on with the job.
No one is giving in on the Lichfield competition although my wife was on the Central the other week and the driver evidently stopped and gave a short speech to his passengers against something or other that Arriva had done.
They have cornered the Kingsbury market.
Surely no one can be making anything on the 4 at the moment as it has too many buses.
Their 3B seems to catch many of the passengers from what I have seen recently while taking photos of the varied buses that Arriva put on (or not) .
Having been brought up in the North East in an era of very strict regulation, I don't like to see predatory competition but Central seem to run on time, have decent buses and look the part.
Central Buses Optare Solo YJ59 PKC is currently VOR due to major accident damage incurred following the incident in West Bromwich yesterday. They will be getting Enviro 200 YX11 CTZ on hire temporarily to replace it. This should be arriving tomorrow. Credit to Central Buses for the information.
The envrio is ex D&G bus
How is the 142 service going with Central Buses?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on June 23, 2017, 09:10:29 PM
How is the 142 service going with Central Buses?
Constantly early from what i see. Loadings very hit and miss. Only concessionary pass holders use it i think
If you can provide us with details supporting early operation of service, we will investigate this.
Quote from: Central Buses on June 24, 2017, 09:31:00 AM
If you can provide us with details supporting early operation of service, we will investigate this.
He just knows
Same way he just knows about every single NX 9 journey
Which service is the hired envrio normally on
Up to their dirty tricks again
Dirty tricks ?
On the 4's in Tamworth leaving early
Good to see them trying to improve customer satisfaction by using a e200 on 142
Saw D&G 100 with parallel Central Buses/D&G logos in West Bromwich Bus station on Saturday. New Bus??
Quote from: ade on July 12, 2017, 08:17:44 AM
Saw D&G 100 with parallel Central Buses/D&G logos in West Bromwich Bus station on Saturday. New Bus??
no on loan while a solo is repaired following a bump at West Brom 2 weeks ago
As reported on the previous page! There are several vehicle in Peddle associated fleets that retain white livery for some reason.
PN03UMJ is on London Midland Rail Replacements Longbridge-Redditch today
PN03ULV is currently on standby at Redditch
PD1021409/92 Cancelled
CEN GROUP LIMITED
Route: Stourbridge bus Station to Halesowen Bus Station via Hasbury
Service number: 142
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Sep 2017
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 17, 2017, 01:15:12 PM
PD1021409/92 Cancelled
CEN GROUP LIMITED
Route: Stourbridge bus Station to Halesowen Bus Station via Hasbury
Service number: 142
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Sep 2017
Why doesn't that surprise me. Was never going to work
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 17, 2017, 01:15:12 PM
PD1021409/92 Cancelled
CEN GROUP LIMITED
Route: Stourbridge bus Station to Halesowen Bus Station via Hasbury
Service number: 142
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Sep 2017
Wonder if TfWM will now step in with support?
PD1021409/42 Cancelled
CEN GROUP LIMITED
Route: Gillity Village to Walsall Bus Station
Service number: 74
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Sep 2017
Quote from: PM on July 17, 2017, 04:31:05 PM
Wonder if TfWM will now step in with support?
Yeah could it be put up for tender???
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 17, 2017, 02:53:49 PM
Why doesn't that surprise me. Was never going to work
And you wanted diamond to continue with it! It's passenger have fallen, should bring back the 247/8 like the good old days!
Quote from: Chris on July 17, 2017, 05:12:22 PM
And you wanted diamond to continue with it! It's passenger have fallen, should bring back the 247/8 like the good old days!
If there's not enough passengers to support an hourly 142 service over part the route, there's no chance of the of the 247/8 ever coming back
Quote from: Winston on July 17, 2017, 05:16:46 PM
If there's not enough passengers to support an hourly 142 service over part the route, there's no chance of the of the 247/8 ever coming back
I think the section of that route has been messed around too much that I think people got fed up
Quote from: Chris on July 17, 2017, 05:12:22 PM
And you wanted diamond to continue with it! It's passenger have fallen, should bring back the 247/8 like the good old days!
Reducing the frequency was going to make things worse. Not only that but the main residents that use the service are from fatherless barn where the 13 coincidentally runs at exactly the same time. The 142 did work in my opinion on a 30 min frequency. It lasted long enough( 5 years!!)??
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 17, 2017, 05:08:14 PM
Yeah could it be put up for tender???
The 142 is currently out to tender by TFWM based on the current hourly frequency
Quote from: Chris on July 17, 2017, 05:21:02 PM
I think the section of that route has been messed around too much that I think people got fed up
You're probably right, there's only really the 4H through Hasbury now, very limited choice of destinations without changing.
Quote from: Winston on July 17, 2017, 07:09:02 PM
You're probably right, there's only really the 4H through Hasbury now, very limited choice of destinations without changing.
NXWM should register an X9 to Hagley via Hasbury and Halesowen, even hourly in the day 30 mins at peaks could work.
The problem is, the 142 is difficult to cover via existing routes.
Quote from: j789 on July 17, 2017, 07:45:15 PM
NXWM should register an X9 to Hagley via Hasbury and Halesowen, even hourly in the day 30 mins at peaks could work.
Heading a little off topic - but an X9 Birmingham - Stourbridge via Halesowen, Hasbury, Hagley & entering Stourbridge via Oldswinford i.e. utilizing the faster sections of the A456 may be an option
Quote from: 2206 on July 17, 2017, 04:40:20 PM
PD1021409/42 Cancelled
CEN GROUP LIMITED
Route: Gillity Village to Walsall Bus Station
Service number: 74
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Sep 2017
Interesting
Fairly sure it's a tendered route so presumably will still exist with someone else
Quote from: Winston on July 17, 2017, 07:57:51 PM
Heading a little off topic - but an X9 Birmingham - Stourbridge via Halesowen, Hasbury, Hagley & entering Stourbridge via Oldswinford i.e. utilizing the faster sections of the A456 may be an option
Good idea to go that way to Stourbridge. There could also be an X8 that went to Merry Hill the same route as X9 to Hagley then via Lye etc to Merry Hill.
Quote from: Winston on July 17, 2017, 07:57:51 PM
Heading a little off topic - but an X9 Birmingham - Stourbridge via Halesowen, Hasbury, Hagley & entering Stourbridge via Oldswinford i.e. utilizing the faster sections of the A456 may be an option
Then you have the issue of nbuses being accepted as it is crossing boundaries or does that not matter?
Maybe send it to bromsgrove from Halesowen ?
Or onto redditch ??
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 17, 2017, 08:10:00 PM
Then you have the issue of nbuses being accepted as it is crossing boundaries or does that not matter?
Doesn't matter as long as the people with the pass do not get on in Hagley. The rest of the route would be ok for that pass.
Quote from: Kevin on July 17, 2017, 08:05:11 PM
Interesting
Fairly sure it's a tendered route so presumably will still exist with someone else
Odd though as tender change dates tend to be October or April, the date they've cancelled from is around the date that 56 days' notice to cancel (ie before around 26th October) would be submitted!
Quote from: PM on July 17, 2017, 10:10:27 PM
Odd though as tender change dates tend to be October or April, the date they've cancelled from is around the date that 56 days' notice to cancel (ie before around 26th October) would be submitted!
It'd no doubt be done as a 52 week emergency tender
how about extending the 192 from halesown to Birmingham giving Kidderminster area a link by buses to Birmingham
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 17, 2017, 05:23:41 PM
Reducing the frequency was going to make things worse. Not only that but the main residents that use the service are from fatherless barn where the 13 coincidentally runs at exactly the same time. The 142 did work in my opinion on a 30 min frequency. It lasted long enough( 5 years!!)??
And don't forget the goodness knows how many years that section was covered by the 247/248.
As the route was cut down and frequencies amended passengers must have found alternative ways to travel.
I would also suggest that as frequencies have increased on other nearby routes this has been a factor too. For example the only NX bus on a Sunday round Hasbury used to be the 247/248 and later the 142. Now there is the Diamond 4H running every half hour.
Quote from: Cedric on July 17, 2017, 11:51:00 PM
how about extending the 192 from halesown to Birmingham giving Kidderminster area a link by buses to Birmingham
And with four trains an hour how many non-pass holders would use it?
Quote from: Cedric on July 17, 2017, 11:51:00 PM
how about extending the 192 from halesown to Birmingham giving Kidderminster area a link by buses to Birmingham
Years ago, the 192 did use to run between Kidderminster and Birmingham, but Diamond withdrew it as it wasn't commercially viable. I understand that Centro (at the time) wouldn't subsidise the route as there were already alternative services between Birmingham and Halesowen, as well as the train of course.
Quote from: Stu on July 18, 2017, 08:14:39 PM
Years ago, the 192 did use to run between Kidderminster and Birmingham, but Diamond withdrew it as it wasn't commercially viable. I understand that Centro (at the time) wouldn't subsidise the route as there were already alternative services between Birmingham and Halesowen, as well as the train of course.
Back in the good old days the 192 used to be the X92 Birmingham - Kidderminster - Ludlow - Hereford before it was chopped into pieces.
Quote from: busfan2847 on July 18, 2017, 09:14:56 PM
Back in the good old days the 192 used to be the X92 Birmingham - Kidderminster - Ludlow - Hereford before it was chopped into pieces.
I believe the reason for curtailing the full route was new EU legislation in the 1990s that would have required the buses used to be fitted with tachographs because of the distance. I also think the same reason applied to the 144 terminating in Worcester instead of Malvern where it had previously run to. Both MRW routes of course.
Quote from: busfan2847 on July 18, 2017, 09:14:56 PM
Back in the good old days the 192 used to be the X92 Birmingham - Kidderminster - Ludlow - Hereford before it was chopped into pieces.
The 192 actually continued to run to Hereford until the early 2000's when it was reduced to running to Kidderminster only with some peak journeys continuing to Cleobury Mortimer.
At one point around 2000 First ran a 30 minute frequency between Kidderminster and Birmingham with the X93
Long dart I 142. Carrying 1 person leaving Halesowen. What a waste
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 19, 2017, 11:29:34 AM
Long dart I 142. Carrying 1 person leaving Halesowen. What a waste
Does make you wonder if it is worth tendering the 142 or just getting rid of it.
Just passed central buses hired envrio on flyover in aston with
X55 on blinds
PN03 ULV is on the 78 today.
PD1021409/89 Registered
CEN GROUP LIMITED
Route: Tamworth, Corporation Street to Tamworth, Corporation Street via Coton Green
Service number: 3B
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 18 Sep 2017
PD1021409/95 Registered
CEN GROUP LIMITED
Route: Perry Barr, Opposite Rail Station to Burton upon Trent, Boots Distribution Centre via Erdington, Lichfield
Service number: X11
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 02 Oct 2017
X11 - Perry Barr - Erdington - Lichfield - Boots, Distibution Centre, Burton Upon Trent.
I wander what rout it will take between Perry Barr and Erdington? Will it go via the 11 route?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 19, 2017, 06:32:12 PM
Does make you wonder if it is worth tendering the 142 or just getting rid of it.
I have to agree unfortunately. From Fatherless Barn to Halesowen the route is covered adequately by the 13, and those needing Stourbridge it is only a short walk to the much more frequent 9.
From the Wynall to Stourbridge section the 276 covers the majority more frequently and so only Oldnall Road is uncovered which I believe there is only 2 or 3 stops max.
Perhaps it should be reduced to Peak only?
Central Buses have got Demonstrator Mercedes Citaro K BV14 TZY on loan at the moment. It's on the 78 today.
Timetable changes in September apparently sees the X55 becoming every 20 mins
The E200 hired from D&G has gone home.
The on loan Citaro is in the 89 today.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 17, 2017, 02:53:49 PM
Why doesn't that surprise me. Was never going to work
I've been told there are no service changes due to the 142 after the end of service on Saturday 2nd September, or any time in the near future.
QuoteThanks for the e mail.
I can confirm that there are no changes due on service142 from September 2nd, or any time in the near future.
Kind Regards
Head of Operations
Central Buses (Part of CEN Group Ltd)
The central buses demo wa heading into walsall just not in service
Spotted the Merc arriving into Brum on the 108 this morning ~08:05, then again 5 mins later heading out displaying S1
Quote from: Kevin on August 29, 2017, 08:06:12 AM
Spotted the Merc arriving into Brum on the 108 this morning ~08:05, then again 5 mins later heading out displaying S1
What merc??
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 29, 2017, 08:25:43 AM
What merc??
You've missed a lot, haven't you...The demonstrator Mercedes Citaro K on loan to Central Buses at the moment, BV14 TZY.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on August 29, 2017, 09:20:55 AM
You've missed a lot, haven't you...The demonstrator Mercedes Citaro K on loan to Central Buses at the moment, BV14 TZY.
Yes apologies, I do need updating with what's going on haha
Have Central Buses won the tender for the 142?
PD1021409/96 Registered (Short notice)
CEN GROUP LIMITED
Route: Halesowen Bus Station to Stockbridge Bus Station via Hasbury
Service number: 142
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Sep 2017
Quote from: Kevin on August 29, 2017, 08:06:12 AM
Spotted the Merc arriving into Brum on the 108 this morning ~08:05, then again 5 mins later heading out displaying S1
It passed me on the Coventry Road heading towards Sheldon, about 8:25am. If it hadn't had S1 on the rear display I'd have been none the wiser!
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 29, 2017, 06:42:16 PM
Have Central Buses won the tender for the 142?
PD1021409/96 Registered (Short notice)
CEN GROUP LIMITED
Route: Halesowen Bus Station to Stockbridge Bus Station via Hasbury
Service number: 142
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Sep 2017
I believe after not winning the tender (NX did) They have registered it commercially
Quote from: Tony on August 29, 2017, 07:28:18 PM
I believe after not winning the tender (NX did) They have registered it commercially
Actually coming by hasbury this time?
Quote from: Tony on August 29, 2017, 07:28:18 PM
I believe after not winning the tender (NX did) They have registered it commercially
Sorry to sound thick here, but didn't Central withdraw it because they couldn't make it pay, and yet have now registered it commercially. So what was the point of it all, did Central want to give it up hoping to win any tender so they could receive money for running it, now they haven't got the tender they want the service back?
@Tony Surely there should be some rule stopping you from doing this, especially after wasting so many peoples time.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 29, 2017, 07:54:00 PM
Sorry to sound thick here, but didn't Central withdraw it because they couldn't make it pay, and yet have now registered it commercially. So what was the point of it all, did Central want to give it up hoping to win any tender so they could receive money for running it, now they haven't got the tender they want the service back?
You don't sound thick at all, it's the question many members of this forum want to know. So nx just got Sunday and evenings?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 29, 2017, 07:45:24 PM
Actually coming by hasbury this time?
Quote from: 2206 on August 25, 2017, 10:33:43 PM
I've been told there are no service changes due to the 142 after the end of service on Saturday 2nd September, or any time in the near future.
There will be no changes to the service.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 29, 2017, 07:57:26 PM
You don't sound thick at all, it's the question many members of this forum want to know. So nx just got Sunday and evenings?
It was an emergency tender for Monday to Saturday daytime as far as I am aware.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 29, 2017, 08:06:23 PM
It was an emergency tender for Monday to Saturday daytime as far as I am aware.
Can we have some clarification please?
@Tony
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 29, 2017, 08:38:47 PM
Can we have some clarification please? @Tony
What I believe happened, but am open to correction on any minor points is at the latest round of Tenders the all day service was put out to tender. NX won a 5 year award initially, but that was then withdrawn by TfWM when a number of the journies were registered commercially by another operator. I haven't heard what is happening yet to any journies not commercially registered, but if TfWM want them to run they will have to put them out on an emergency tender initially to fill the gap.
Seemingly the same happened on the 74 in Walsall, withdrawing, then deciding to register certain journeys commercially. In other words, messing around!
Quote from: Tony on August 29, 2017, 08:49:07 PM
What I believe happened, but am open to correction on any minor points is at the latest round of Tenders the all day service was put out to tender. NX won a 5 year award initially, but that was then withdrawn by TfWM when a number of the journies were registered commercially by another operator. I haven't heard what is happening yet to any journies not commercially registered, but if TfWM want them to run they will have to put them out on an emergency tender initially to fill the gap.
Thanks for the information tony it seems as if central were testing the waters
Quote from: Tony on August 29, 2017, 07:28:18 PM
I believe after not winning the tender (NX did) They have registered it commercially
To clarify, no journeys have been reregistered commercially on the 142
Quote from: Central Buses on August 29, 2017, 10:01:56 PM
To clarify, no journeys have been reregistered commercially on the 142
Am so confused now, if NE won the tender for 5 years and Central Buses haven't reregistered any journies commercially, then NE should be operating the 142 from 04 September 2017.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 29, 2017, 10:17:11 PM
Am so confused now, if NE won the tender for 5 years and Central Buses haven't reregistered any journies commercially, then NE should be operating the 142 from 04 September 2017.
Not without route training we won't, we were aware that it was supposed to be coming to us at Pensnett and we also heard that we weren't having it. There is no chance whatsoever that we will be operating the service from 4th September.
PN03ULU was in Erdington this evening operating the 16:45 88 from Erdington.
Do central buses have a depot in Kidderminster
Quote from: ChrisGoode on August 31, 2017, 12:39:54 PM
Do you know where it is?
It's on Mill Street, as far as I can tell.
Quote from: DJ98 on August 31, 2017, 12:52:24 PM
It's on Mill Street, as far as I can tell.
Yes, Mill Street
Thanks
Isn't it an outstation if my memory serves me correct?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 31, 2017, 02:52:34 PM
Isn't it an outstation if my memory serves me correct?
It was mentioned in this thread before it opened that only 4 buses would be based there to begin with, although that may have changed now. It does look a decent size from what I can tell on Street View.
(https://i.imgur.com/CZPbnZF.jpg)
It's a small outstation with space for 4 maybe 5 buses at a push which was the case if I remember correctly when they still had the 101 in Bridgnorth and the 125 and 142 were all operated out of their at the same time briefly. It has since returned to 4 with the 125 and 142 being operated out of Kidderminster.
Hmm
PD1021409/96 Registered (Short notice)
CEN GROUP LIMITED
Route: Halesowen Bus Station to Stockbridge Bus Station via Hasbury
Service number: 142
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Sep 2017
Quote from: Jon on September 01, 2017, 05:27:09 PM
Hmm
PD1021409/96 Registered (Short notice)
CEN GROUP LIMITED
Route: Halesowen Bus Station to Stockbridge Bus Station via Hasbury
Service number: 142
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Sep 2017
Guessing that's meant to say Stourbridge or something? Stockbridge is way too far away!
Stockbridge was featured in the Doctor Who Magazine comic strip in the past!
Mercedes Citaro demonstrator BV14 TZY is on the Tamworth 4 today.
It's over Tamworth for its last week on hire
Quote from: derningtona on September 12, 2017, 02:32:55 PM
Mercedes Citaro demonstrator BV14 TZY is on the Tamworth 4 today.
Broken down on the x55 today
204 is on the 61 (Perry Barr to Handsworth) today
Strange to see a longer bus on this, wouldn't think it'd get round some of the corners on the route
Quote from: 2206 on August 15, 2017, 11:31:45 PM
PD1021409/95 Registered
CEN GROUP LIMITED
Route: Perry Barr, Opposite Rail Station to Burton upon Trent, Boots Distribution Centre via Erdington, Lichfield
Service number: X11
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 02 Oct 2017
X11 - Perry Barr - Erdington - Lichfield - Boots, Distibution Centre, Burton Upon Trent.
I wander what rout it will take between Perry Barr and Erdington? Will it go via the 11 route?
Does anyone know what routes it's going to take between Perry Barr and Erdington plus does anyone know what the timetable will be.
Quote from: 2206 on September 22, 2017, 07:05:28 PM
Does anyone know what routes it's going to take between Perry Barr and Erdington plus does anyone know what the timetable will be.
think it might b 1 trip each way
Quote from: 2206 on September 22, 2017, 07:05:28 PM
Does anyone know what routes it's going to take between Perry Barr and Erdington plus does anyone know what the timetable will be.
Will do the 11 route between Perry Barr and Erdington. 2 return journeys per day, 0832/2032 from Perry Barr, 1015/2215 from Boots.
PD1021409/98 Registered
CEN GROUP LIMITED
Route: Selly Oak, Aldi Superstore to Redditch I-Force Business Park via Northfield & Longbridge
Service number: JL2
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 16 Nov 2017
YX11CTZ has returned on loan from D&G. On the 75 this evening
Is the Merc demo thats o loan still st central buses
Quote from: Solo1 on October 04, 2017, 07:40:38 AM
Is the Merc demo thats o loan still st central buses
Don't think so it broke down whilst at Tamworth and hasn't been seen since
D&G Bus 100 (YX11 CTZ) Enviro 200 is working Central Buses route 4 in Tamworth today.
Central Buses currently have Centrebus (ex Nottingham City Transport) Scania OmniDekka YN53 CFO on loan. I'm told it should be with the company until Christmas.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on October 07, 2017, 09:14:03 AM
Central Buses currently have Centrebus (ex Nottingham City Transport) Scania OmniDekka YN53 CFO on loan. I'm told it should be with the company until Christmas.
Do you know what routes it'll most likely be used on, please?
Quote from: derningtona on October 05, 2017, 10:59:24 AM
D&G Bus 100 (YX11 CTZ) Enviro 200 is working Central Buses route 4 in Tamworth today.
It didn't last long as it wasn't displaying 4 just central buses
The D&G bus referred to, was back on the 75 again this morning. It carried a white livery with D&G fleet names
Central Buses turning there 91 into 91A and 91C circulars.
Quote from: Jack D on October 18, 2017, 07:37:43 PM
Central Buses turning there 91 into 91A and 91C circulars.
No longer going to Birmingham Airport.
Replacing the Claribels 71A doing a,
Chelmsley Wood - Marston Green - Chelmsley Wood circular.
http://www.centralbuses.com/news/221017changes/
From October 22nd.
Reported on Centrebus group there are five Tower Transit E20Ds on the way.
Quote from: mikestone on October 19, 2017, 10:49:13 PM
Reported on Centrebus group there are five Tower Transit E20Ds on the way.
Going off their other recent acquisitions, they'll have a bunch of red E200's and a bunch of white ones too. Wouldn't hurt to put a bit of paint on them.
Quote from: DJ98 on October 20, 2017, 12:26:06 AM
Going off their other recent acquisitions, they'll have a bunch of red E200's and a bunch of white ones too. Wouldn't hurt to put a bit of paint on them.
Are Central running white E200s? Isn't it Claribels who have the white ones or do both?
Quote from: MW on October 20, 2017, 12:52:49 AM
Are Central running white E200s? Isn't it Claribels who have the white ones or do both?
Sorry, I misread the thread title and thought this was the Claribels thread. :-X
I should probably get some sleep.
They have another citaro not sure if it's on loan saw it on Facebook it's a 66 plate
Quote from: ntw456 on October 20, 2017, 10:59:32 AM
They have another citaro not sure if it's on loan saw it on Facebook it's a 66 plate
any link to the other citaro
Quote from: ntw456 on October 20, 2017, 10:59:32 AM
They have another citaro not sure if it's on loan saw it on Facebook it's a 66 plate
Probably BT66TZE (a blue one) as that is longer compared to the other one which was a Citaro K
Yeah that's the one
What routes does those 3 DD's run on?
Deckers on schools & works service.contract
Quote from: Kevin2017 on October 29, 2017, 12:52:40 AM
What routes does those 3 DD's run on?
If you want a ride on one, I think the X11 would probably be the best route to try, works service available to the public.
Perry Barr - Witton, Tescos (next to Aston Villa) - Stockland Green - Erdington - The Yenton - Castle Vale - Lichfiield - Boots, Burton.
http://www.centralbuses.com/files/9715/0727/1091/boots.pdf
Quote from: 2206 on October 29, 2017, 09:17:41 AM
If you want a ride on one, I think the X11 would be the best route to try, works service available to the public.
Perry Barr - Witton, Tescos (next to Aston Villa) - Stockland Green - Erdington - The Yenton - Castle Vale - Lichfiield - Boots, Burton.
http://www.centralbuses.com/files/9715/0727/1091/boots.pdf
Or they frequently work on London Midland Rail Replacements so keep an eye out for major engineering work they could be on. They occasionally do the 75 I think
Quote from: Kevin2017 on October 29, 2017, 12:52:40 AM
What routes does those 3 DD's run on?
I think one regularly does the 17:25 108 from Birmingham too. So that might be your best bet.
Decker run the 74 earlier. was shocked to see it in Walsall :D
Versa 253 has had an accident at the end of corporation street
Quote from: Michael Bevan on October 29, 2017, 10:42:40 AM
I think one regularly does the 17:25 108 from Birmingham too. So that might be your best bet.
Do many Central buses boards cross link then?
Quote from: Kevin2017 on November 01, 2017, 07:30:17 PM
Do many Central buses boards cross link then?
Interwork?
Two I see are:
The 16 trip to Park Hall school, Castle Bromwich, then goes out of service to B'ham City Centre via the Fox and Goose and Washwood Head Road, it then goes onto the X16.
The bus that spends the day on the S1 and does the 1st and the 3rd 108 evening trips from B'ham City Centre. It also does one of the morning journeys on the 108 from Erdington.
Any others?
Metrocity YJ16DDN and Enviro 200s YY16YJK/YX63ZXK noted on Birmingham-Lichfield rail replacements today
According to a post on Facebook, YJ59 PKC has now left on it's final journey to Barnsley for scrap.
PD1021409/89 Cancelled
CEN GROUP LTD
Route: Tamworth, Corporation Street to Tamworth, Corporation Street via Coton Green
Service number: 3B
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 07 Jan 2018
PD1021409/66 Cancelled
CEN GROUP LTD
Route: Tamworth, Corporation Street to Lichfield Bus Station via Hopwas, Tamworth road
Service number: X55
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 07 Jan 2018
PD1021409/74 Registered
CEN GROUP LTD
Route: Tamworth to Kingsbury School via Kingsbury
Service number: 16 (16S, X16)
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 08 Jan 2018
PD1021409/69 Registered
CEN GROUP LTD
Route: Walsall Bus Station to Lichfield Bus Station via Aldridge, Stonnall, Shenstone
Service number: 35B (35)
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 07 Jan 2018
PD1021409/99 Registered
CEN GROUP LTD
Route: Hurley, Queensway to Tamworth, Victoria Road. via Wood End, Wilnecote, Two Gates
Service number: 15
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 08 Jan 2018
Looks like arriva have won the battle on 3 and x55
PD1021409/90 Cancelled
CEN GROUP LTD
Route: Tamworth, Victoria Road to Silverlink via Glascote Road
Service number: 4
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 07 Jan 2018
Quote from: Ck on November 16, 2017, 10:13:59 AM
Looks like arriva have won the battle on 3 and x55
could be planning somethink on them 2 services
Wondering if the 15 will be the same as the one People Movers ran.
Quote from: Solo1 on November 16, 2017, 03:40:08 PM
could be planning somethink on them 2 services
One of there drivers said something about services in Lichfield
Quote from: ntw456 on November 16, 2017, 07:46:07 PM
One of there drivers said something about services in Lichfield
If you look above, Central have registered a 35B between Walsall & Lichfield
Quote from: Winston on November 16, 2017, 08:03:45 PM
If you look above, Central have registered a 35B between Walsall & Lichfield
Central already run the 35B, and have done for quite some years.
Quote from: ntw456 on November 16, 2017, 07:46:07 PM
One of there drivers said something about services in Lichfield
Against classic? Lol Somehow I doubt the share holders would agree lol
Classic taking over some so they can have another bash at Arriva in Tamworth this time? Lol
Quote from: Alex on November 16, 2017, 08:12:29 PM
Central already run the 35B, and have done for quite some years.
Looks like extra more direct journeys between Walsall and Lichfield added to the timetable, and the 15 does look more or less like what Not People Movers registered although didn't really operate!
I am surprised at the loss of the X55 - that was a good service lets hope Arriva do not cancel the X65 now.
Quote from: Cheese on November 17, 2017, 01:52:45 PM
Looks like extra more direct journeys between Walsall and Lichfield added to the timetable, and the 15 does look more or less like what Not People Movers registered although didn't really operate!
Is Central the operator I could use my Paygo Swift on services outside the Wm county?
If so I could use them instead of Arriva between Walsall & Lichfield!
Quote from: Westy on November 18, 2017, 02:31:13 PM
Is Central the operator I could use my Paygo Swift on services outside the Wm county?
If so I could use them instead of Arriva between Walsall & Lichfield!
Yes that's correct.
Amazing how many passengers use the S1. Kind of surprised NX let it go.
PD1021409 SN (10 Nov Notices and Proceedings)
CEN GROUP LTD Director(s): STEPHEN DAVID CROSS, GEOFFREY ADAM CROSS
UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX Increase at existing operating centre: 78 MILL STREET, KIDDERMINSTER, DY11 6XJ New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 5 vehicle(s) New operating centre: COMMON BARN FARM, TAMWORTH ROAD, LICHFIELD, WS14 9PX New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 12 vehicle(s)
That might explain then, officially transferring routes to a Tamworth base
Looking for the hired Nottingham decker if its about
Quote from: Solo1 on November 25, 2017, 09:44:00 AM
Looking for the hired Nottingham decker if its about
Doubt it's out today, usually see it on schools during the week
The NCT decker was on X11 this morning
Mention on facebook that they'll be running hourly on the 35 direct Walsall - Lichfield. Competition or taking over?
info copied from facebook
We will be introducing the following new services in the West Midlands & Staffordshire areas in January 2018
Commencing 2nd January 2018
Service 82 : Tamworth - Clifton Campville - New service operated on behalf of Staffordshire County Council replacing Solus Coaches. There will be no change to the existing route or timetable
Commencing 7th January 2018
Service 15 : Tamworth - Hurley via Wilnecote & Hockley - New hourly service operating Monday to Saturday which will offer a fast direct link from Hurley, Wood End and Hockley to Tamworth Town Centre. The service will also reinstate a bus service operate along Watling Street and Tamworth Road
Service 35 : Lichfield - Walsall via Shire Oak - New service to compliment our current 35B service, offering fast journeys between Lichfield and Walsall via Shire Oak. These services will operate hourly Monday to Saturday with additional buses also operating during the daytime
Route & Timetable information will be available on our website shortly aswell as local tourist information offices
I assume their 35 will run the same route as the Arriva 35?
Central Buses has had a Scania Omnidecker onloan from Nottigham Transport for some time now.
Quote from: Westy on November 29, 2017, 05:27:07 PM
I assume their 35 will run the same route as the Arriva 35?
Only for a couple of weeks before Arriva withdrawn their route 35:
PD0000478/344 Cancelled
ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD
Route: Walsall Bus Station to Lichfield Bus Station
Service number: 35 (35A, X35)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Feb 2018
Arriva seem to have a problem with certain routes in my opinion.
Quote from: Solo1 on November 25, 2017, 09:44:00 AM
Looking for the hired Nottingham decker if its about
It was parked up on South Parade in Sutton Coldfield at 13:00 this afternoon and was still there later on when I came back at about 14:10, it appeared to spend the afternoon parked up there today for some reason,
Quote from: 2206 on December 21, 2017, 06:37:03 PM
It was parked up on South Parade in Sutton Coldfield at 13:00 this afternoon and was still there later on when I came back at about 14:10, it appeared to spend the afternoon parked up there today for some reason,
Presumably a relief vehicle providing a driver to cover breaks.
Does anyone know if NWM passes and tickets are valid on routes like the 70/X70 and 75 in Coleshill and Water Orton (As they leave the West Midlands and then enter it again) and if not where the border is?
Also does anyone know what tickets are valid on the X11 and NX A52? Are there special fares?
Quote from: fleetline6477 on December 21, 2017, 07:06:08 PM
Presumably a relief vehicle providing a driver to cover breaks.
Today was last day off that bus.
Quote from: derningtona on November 19, 2017, 10:48:19 AM
PD1021409 SN (10 Nov Notices and Proceedings)
CEN GROUP LTD Director(s): STEPHEN DAVID CROSS, GEOFFREY ADAM CROSS
UNIT 14A, TAMEBRIDGE INDUSTRIAL ESTATE, ALDRIDGE ROAD, PERRY BARR, BIRMINGHAM, B42 2TX Increase at existing operating centre: 78 MILL STREET, KIDDERMINSTER, DY11 6XJ New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 5 vehicle(s) New operating centre: COMMON BARN FARM, TAMWORTH ROAD, LICHFIELD, WS14 9PX New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 12 vehicle(s)
What routes will run from the new sites?
Tamworth Base:
16/16a/plus the 15 will 82 route just won from solus coaches
125 from Kindderminister
Eight buses at Tamworth 5 buses at Kidderminster
Rest All PB
Quote from: Kevin2017 on December 24, 2017, 06:31:04 PM
Tamworth Base:
16/16a/plus the 15 will 82 route just won from solus coaches
125 from Kindderminister
Eight buses at Tamworth 5 buses at Kidderminster
Rest All PB
And the 35
35? Tam or Kid?
I meant the depot its run from lol
I'd guess tamworth lol sorry I'm not with it
Quote from: Kevin2017 on December 24, 2017, 09:36:14 PM
I meant the depot its run from lol
Quote from: Kevin2017 on December 24, 2017, 09:34:38 PM
35? Tam or Kid?
Why do you think they'd operate the 35 that operates between Walsall and Lichfield from Kidderminster?
Walsall is about 25 miles away from Kidderminster.
Are they still keeping there Perry Barr yard ?
Quote from: 2206 on December 24, 2017, 09:45:05 PM
Why do you think they'd operate the 35 that operates between Walsall and Lichfield from Kidderminster?
Walsall is about 25 miles away from Kidderminster.
I'm just writing what drivers said so we know each depot and what they operate.
PB is main base for ENG etc, Tam and Kid are just hard standing yards, also each driver has a fuel car, each bus is fueled on the roads at Petrol stations.
Quote from: Kevin2017 on December 24, 2017, 10:01:29 PM
I'm just writing what drivers said so we know each depot and what they operate.
PB is main base for ENG etc, Tam and Kid are just hard standing yards, also each driver has a fuel car, each bus is fueled on the roads at Petrol stations.
Quote from: Kevin2017 on December 24, 2017, 09:34:38 PM
35? Tam or Kid?
But you asked whether the 35 was going to operate out of Tamworth or Kidderminster.
Surely its quite obvious its not going to operate out of Kidderminster.
Quote from: 2206 on December 24, 2017, 10:11:06 PM
But you asked whether the 35 was going to operate out of Tamworth or Kidderminster.
Surely its quite obvious its not going to operate out of Kidderminster.
35 Is already from Tam.
Some one should do a spreadsheet for Central?
What buses are based at Tamworth I know the verses are at
Kidderminster & is there space at Kidderminster & Tamworth to.increae the fleet there
Quote from: Solo1 on December 25, 2017, 08:16:19 AM
What buses are based at Tamworth I know the verses are at
Kidderminster & is there space at Kidderminster & Tamworth to.increae the fleet there
Their are no Versa's at Kidderminster haven't been for months usually E200s and a Mini Dart for the 142 some times Metrocity are allocated but less so in the winter.
Quote from: Reece on December 25, 2017, 10:50:55 AM
Their are no Versa's at Kidderminster haven't been for months usually E200s and a Mini Dart for the 142 some times Metrocity are allocated but less so in the winter.
The 125 is now mainly e200's now
35B is a PB depot route.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 25, 2017, 12:39:24 PM
The 125 is now mainly e200's now
how come they use e200 on 125 now
Buses move from depot to depot for ENG purposes etc
I wanna know more on PVRs and cross linkings for the sake of the Trident workings etc
Quote from: Kevin2017 on December 25, 2017, 02:39:35 PM
I wanna know more on PVRs and cross linkings for the sake of the Trident workings etc
A few weeks back I saw a Trident on the JL2 work service. Not sure if tridents are the regular allocation but here is the timetable on traveline. As there is only 2 return journeys a day it probably inter works onto another route
http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&command=direct&net=cen&line=10JL2&sup=%20&itdLPxx_direction=H&project=y11&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_sessionID=CEN_EFA02_38969455&lineVer=1&itdLPxx_spTr=1&itdLPxx_operatorCodeForTTB=CEB
It's brilliant how many of us still use this group on xmas day, as of us hate xmas and try to pass the time.
Quote from: Solo1 on December 25, 2017, 02:35:36 PM
how come they use e200 on 125 now
Running costs probably the Versa's are best suited to the route in the winter if you ask me.
PD1021409/101 Registered
CEN GROUP LTD
Route: Bromsgrove Rail Station to Stourbridge Bus Station via Belbroughton, Magley
Service number: 318
Service type: Hail & Ride, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 26 Feb 2018
Central Buses will operate the 318 from February 26th.
One of the Double Decker Tridents were on the 78 (Sutton Coldfield to Queslett Island) today. In Sutton Coldfield at about 14:50.
Quote from: 2206 on January 05, 2018, 11:45:31 PM
One of the Double Decker Tridents were on the 78 (Sutton Coldfield to Queslett Island) today. In Sutton Coldfield at about 14:50.
Normal, as it covers a school journey, which is the 15:25 78 to Streetly/Queslett
Former Nottingham City Transport OmniDekka YN53 CFO, (NCT fleet number 723), which was latterly on loan to Central Buses was noted in the yard of Centrebus' Leicester depot on 03/01/2018. Here's a snap:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DSsPQo7W4AAKOuQ.jpg
From the Central Buses Facebook page...
"We will be making some changes to our network from Saturday 3rd February 2018
Service 15 : Tamworth - Hurley via Wood End - Route revised to serve Piccadilly and Kingsbury. Additional journeys are introduced
Service 16 / 16A : Tamworth - Kingsbury - Peak time journeys are extended to / from Kingsbury towards Hurley via Piccadilly and Wood End. The timetable will be amended to co-ordinate with revised Service 15 with buses operating every 20 minutes during Monday to Saturday daytime
Service 35 : Walsall - Lichfield via Aldridge & Shire Oak - Additional journeys introduced including new 35A journeys between Walsall, Aldridge and Druids Heath
Service 35B : Walsall - Lichfield via Aldridge, Stonnall & Shenstone - The Saturday timetable is withdrawn due to the removal of subsidy by Staffordshire County Council. There is no change to the Monday - Friday timetable.
Route & Timetable information will be available on our website shortly aswell as local tourist information offices"
Sad about the 35B but so be it, will have to go bash it again this weekend
Quote from: Adam 404 on January 10, 2018, 09:52:51 PM
Service 15 : Tamworth - Hurley via Wood End - Route revised to serve Piccadilly and Kingsbury. Additional journeys are introduced
Service 16 / 16A : Tamworth - Kingsbury - Peak time journeys are extended to / from Kingsbury towards Hurley via Piccadilly and Wood End. The timetable will be amended to co-ordinate with revised Service 15 with buses operating every 20 minutes during Monday to Saturday daytime
Also, curious how the 16 and 15 will be "co-ordinated", unless the 15 will be routed the same way out through Ventura Park and not Hockley which would then be exactly as per the peak hour services mentioned in the changes to the 16.
Does seem a shame that they're chopping and changing routes a fair bit though, they're never going to make a huge presence for themselves if they do that
Quote from: Kevin on January 11, 2018, 07:50:47 AM
Sad about the 35B but so be it, will have to go bash it again this weekend
Also, curious how the 16 and 15 will be "co-ordinated", unless the 15 will be routed the same way out through Ventura Park and not Hockley which would then be exactly as per the peak hour services mentioned in the changes to the 16.
Does seem a shame that they're chopping and changing routes a fair bit though, they're never going to make a huge presence for themselves if they do that
But have you noticed that the bus war in Tamworth has suddenly subsided, along with the award winning 'Xpre55' quietly being withdrawn. All competition between Arriva & Central Buses has now ceased as a result of these changes......... :-\
Will cost me a bit more from Walsall to Tamworth then, unless I go via Cannock to Lichfield instead.
Quote from: Winston on January 11, 2018, 09:37:05 AM
But have you noticed that the bus war in Tamworth has suddenly subsided, along with the award winning 'Xpre55' quietly being withdrawn. All competition between Arriva & Central Buses has now ceased as a result of these changes......... :-\
Indeed, not like a deal between the operators has happened or anything...
Quote from: Cheese on January 11, 2018, 04:39:16 PM
Indeed, not like a deal between the operators has happened or anything...
How could you possibly suggest such a thing...... :o
Quote from: Winston on January 11, 2018, 09:37:05 AM
But have you noticed that the bus war in Tamworth has suddenly subsided, along with the award winning 'Xpre55' quietly being withdrawn. All competition between Arriva & Central Buses has now ceased as a result of these changes......... :-\
they might be going back to Tamworth on some other services never know
Quote from: Westy on January 11, 2018, 12:29:10 PM
Will cost me a bit more from Walsall to Tamworth then, unless I go via Cannock to Lichfield instead.
Wouldn't it be quicker getting x51 brum then 110?
Quote from: Winston on January 11, 2018, 04:46:00 PM
How could you possibly suggest such a thing...... :o
I know, such an outrageous thought :)
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 11, 2018, 07:36:36 PM
Wouldn't it be quicker getting x51 brum then 110?
I was thinking of cost.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 11, 2018, 07:36:36 PM
Wouldn't it be quicker getting x51 brum then 110?
It'd be quicker to get the 77 to Sutton Coldfield and then the 110 to Tamworth than go via Birmingham City Centre.
35 minutes - X51 Walsall to Birmingham City Centre
68 minutes - 110 Birmingham City Centre to Tamworth.
103 minutes on the bus overall
40 minues - 77 Walsall to Sutton Coldfield.
37 minutes - 110 Sutton Coldfield to Tamworth.
77 minutes on the bus overall.
Struggle to see how the 142 makes any money. They messed up the timetables so now no one uses it in peak times, and it could easily go round hasbury in 30 mins. Diamonds days guaranteed full bus on the morning and evening journey. Shame they didn't keep a peak only 142 service similar to the 108. Seems that tbe halesowne- QE section can't cope with e200s on the 244. There's got to be opportunities there for it to work some way.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 13, 2018, 09:02:16 AM
Struggle to see how the 142 makes any money. They messed up the timetables so now no one uses it in peak times, and it could easily go round hasbury in 30 mins. Diamonds days guaranteed full bus on the morning and evening journey. Shame they didn't keep a peak only 142 service similar to the 108. Seems that tbe halesowne- QE section can't cope with e200s on the 244. There's got to be opportunities there for it to work some way.
The 142 is a tendered (TFWM) service
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 13, 2018, 09:02:16 AM
Struggle to see how the 142 makes any money. They messed up the timetables so now no one uses it in peak times, and it could easily go round hasbury in 30 mins. Diamonds days guaranteed full bus on the morning and evening journey. Shame they didn't keep a peak only 142 service similar to the 108. Seems that tbe halesowne- QE section can't cope with e200s on the 244. There's got to be opportunities there for it to work some way.
Diamond didn't keep a peak only service, Diamond don't operate it any more and the 108 has always been a peak only service, Central Buses started the peak only service after Diamond withdrew it and it is follows a fairlys different route now via Erdington and the Yenton, rather than going via Tyburn Road like when Diamond operated it.
PD1021409/99 Cancelled (Short notice)
CEN GROUP LTD
Route: Hurley, Queensway to Tamworth, Victoria Road. via Wood End, Wilnecote, Two Gates
Service number: 15
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Feb 2018
Quote from: Adam 404 on January 17, 2018, 06:22:58 PM
PD1021409/99 Cancelled (Short notice)
CEN GROUP LTD
Route: Hurley, Queensway to Tamworth, Victoria Road. via Wood End, Wilnecote, Two Gates
Service number: 15
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Feb 2018
Journeys have been reregistered on the 16 registration instead with a slightly revised route and timetable
Has today been purchased by Rotala PLC for £1.95 Million
Quote from: Straightlines on February 02, 2018, 08:02:37 AM
Has today been purchased by Rotala PLC for £1.95 Million
Haha rotala are really going for it aren't they
Quote from: Straightlines on February 02, 2018, 08:02:37 AM
Has today been purchased by Rotala PLC for £1.95 Million
So much for the rumours being a load on nonsense....
Quote from: Winston on February 02, 2018, 08:06:36 AM
So much for the rumours being a load on nonsense....
Be interesting to see if they get rid of routes such as 25. They've ended up with the 142 again!
Wonder why Geoff has sold up
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 02, 2018, 08:08:51 AM
Be interesting to see if they get rid of routes such as 25. They've ended up with the 142 again!
I think the 25 will be quickly cancelled. You're not going to compete with yourself for long... plus the 108 & 318
Sad times. Also mad irony in Central Buses being the company that stepped in on routes that Diamond got rid of
I would like to wish Geoff & his family all the best of luck in all their future endeavour. It's been a great privilege working with you in bog & cog & your input will be sorely missed.
Goodbye from bus operations my friend.
Would the new overlords cease the joint day ranger tickets covering Midland Classic and D&G services?
The list of vehicles I have been sent this morning is the entire fleet with the exception of the Routemaster.
Quote from: Tony on February 02, 2018, 10:08:27 AM
The list of vehicles I have been sent this morning is the entire fleet with the exception of the Routemaster.
Presuming they will all be moving over to Diamond?
Central was easily the most successful independent in the West Midlands- gaining £1.9 million value is a massive accomplishment
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 02, 2018, 11:06:17 AM
Central was easily the most successful independent in the West Midlands- gaining £1.9 million value is a massive accomplishment
Successful up until recently, you could argue if things were still going well that they wouldn't entertain selling out. I suspect the competition with Arriva killed their finances.
£1.5 million of the takeover price is the fleet, the underlying business is worth £450k.
What a shame ...
Easily the most presentable and successful independent in the West Midlands. I hope Johnson's aren't next
Shame, they were a decent little operator. Their vehicles are always in mint condition.
In Coventry how will this afftect the Central 1 route and the Diamond X30 route? I can see them being merged somehow?
Quote from: Sandy Lane on February 02, 2018, 06:17:22 PM
In Coventry how will this afftect the Central 1 route and the Diamond X30 route? I can see them being merged somehow?
The #1 is tendered
Quote from: the trainbasher on February 02, 2018, 06:21:12 PM
The #1 is tendered
Still, I wonder if there is a way of reducing the 4 buses used across both route to 3?offers cost saving.
Will be interested to see how many of the routes are ditched after so long?
Interesting to see how long they will stay on that 'new' Walsall to Lichfield route!
Quote from: Westy on February 02, 2018, 07:11:50 PM
Will be interested to see how many of the routes are ditched after so long?
Interesting to see how long they will stay on that 'new' Walsall to Lichfield route!
Why shouldn't they stay on the Walsall - Lichfield route? Assuming it's carries sufficient passengers, Arriva have cancelled their service in return for Central withdrawing their competing X55 & Tamworth town services (so it appears....)
Quote from: Winston on February 02, 2018, 07:23:25 PM
Why shouldn't they stay on the Walsall - Lichfield route? Assuming it's carries sufficient passengers, Arriva have cancelled their service in return for Central withdrawing their competing X55 & Tamworth town services (so it appears....)
Have they acquired their depots too? Do we think this depot would be kept long term?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 02, 2018, 07:44:17 PM
Have they acquired their depots too? Do we think this depot would be kept long term?
Why not read the announcement?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 02, 2018, 07:44:17 PM
Have they acquired their depots too? Do we think this depot would be kept long term?
No depots have been acquired most services / fleet will be absorbed in to Tividale / Redditch & Kidderminster Depots, but Central's Tamworth base is being retained as an operational base in to Rotala ownership.
Well can see the 25, 108, 142 and 318 being cancelled by Diamond.
I doubt Diamond will run the same level of service on the 75 between Birmingham Business Park and International Station at peak times.
Quote from: sonic84 on February 02, 2018, 08:48:07 PM
Well can see the 25, 108, 142 and 318 being cancelled by Diamond.
I doubt Diamond will run the same level of service on the 75 between Birmingham Business Park and International Station at peak times.
108, 142 & 318 are tendered (the first two by WMCA and the latter by Worcestershire)
Quote from: sonic84 on February 02, 2018, 08:48:07 PM
Well can see the 25, 108, 142 and 318 being cancelled by Diamond.
I doubt Diamond will run the same level of service on the 75 between Birmingham Business Park and International Station at peak times.
I can see the central 125 being run as Bridgnorth -to Kidderminster and the 25 still running
Quote from: the trainbasher on February 02, 2018, 08:51:04 PM
108, 142 & 318 are tendered (the first two by WMCA and the latter by Worcestershire)
I think the 108 is actually commercial, it was under Diamond.
As regards the 75 in
@sonic84 post, I think that is funded by WCC for the full route to some extent / the short journey's may be part TfWM / B'Ham funded ?
Quote from: Winston on February 02, 2018, 11:06:58 PM
I think the 108 is actually commercial, it was under Diamond.
Incorrect - it receives some subsidy from TfWM
as a guess deckers to Redditch envrios to tividale the 16 reg ones to Tamworth with solos for 35 some enviros to Kidderminster
Be interesting to see the allocation of services tommorow whether they keep central buses on central routes
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 04, 2018, 09:12:09 PM
Be interesting to see the allocation of services tommorow whether they keep central buses on central routes
They don't take over yet?
Quote from: Solo1 on February 04, 2018, 04:56:12 PM
as a guess deckers to Redditch envrios to tividale the 16 reg ones to Tamworth with solos for 35 some enviros to Kidderminster
The Redditch Enviro is 30945, the last one. You may as well send 30944/6/7 to Tividale from Kidderminster meaning they are kept together.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 04, 2018, 09:12:09 PM
Be interesting to see the allocation of services tommorow whether they keep central buses on central routes
"Completion of the Business Purchase Agreement is expected to occur in late February 2018, following compliance by CEN Group Limited with its obligations under the Transfer of Undertakings (Protection of Employment) Regulations 2006."
From: http://m.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/mobile/news/detail/13519060.html
So Central buses will remain on Central routes until the purchase is completed.
Quote from: ntw456 on February 04, 2018, 09:19:06 PM
They don't take over yet?
They don't take over until the 25th of February...
There drivers are extremely happy. Not
Do people think Diamond will scrap the free WiFi on the central buses vehicles that have it fitted
Quote from: the trainbasher on February 05, 2018, 01:01:45 PM
Do people think Diamond will scrap the free WiFi on the central buses vehicles that have it fitted
Have any of them got leather seats?
74a just left Dudley was one of diamonds new solo sr's
Quote from: MW on February 05, 2018, 01:14:49 PM
Have any of them got leather seats?
You thinking potential signature buses?
Quote from a driver" it won't take them long to mess up this bus with their mechanics". Did make me chuckle
With the acquisition of central buses the three main operators of the West Midlands is 1. NX 2. Diamond and 3. Igo. I have a feeling Igo will soon merge with diamond
Quote from: Chris on February 05, 2018, 08:22:43 PM
With the acquisition of central buses the three main operators of the West Midlands is 1. NX 2. Diamond and 3. Igo. I have a feeling Igo will soon merge with diamond
Funny you say that the driver of central buses thought they had brought igo too.
Quote from: Chris on February 05, 2018, 08:22:43 PM
With the acquisition of central buses the three main operators of the West Midlands is 1. NX 2. Diamond and 3. Igo. I have a feeling Igo will soon merge with diamond
What's changed then? 1, 2 & 3 were the same before Central Buses was acquired.
Don't forget De Courcey. They're bigger than Central.
Quote from: MW on February 05, 2018, 09:25:08 PM
What's changed then? 1, 2 & 3 were the same before Central Buses was acquired.
Don't forget De Courcey. They're bigger than Central.
And Stagecoach.
Surely its got to come to a point where Diamond cannot acquire any more companies due to the Monopolies & Mergers thing?
Or are we a long way off that yet?
I believe Nx cannot 'grow' the same way for the same reason!
Quote from: Westy on February 05, 2018, 09:45:02 PM
Surely its got to come to a point where Diamond cannot acquire any more companies due to the Monopolies & Mergers thing?
Or are we a long way off that yet?
I believe Nx cannot 'grow' the same way for the same reason!
With NX running approx 75% of all WM bus services, I very much doubt there would be any restriction on Rotala if they were to continue to mop up WM independents. However, I have thought NX might try & put a stop to it before OFT investigation.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 05, 2018, 10:50:13 AM
There drivers are extremely happy. Not
A significant number of Central drivers have previously worked for Pete's or Diamond and are now back where they started.
Still think Rotala are at risk from the bigger players. Its an uncertain time at the moment so don't think the bigger groups would make a move as yet but I do think they would be open to a rival moving in and just sweeping them aside. Perhaps they are hoping a larger group will buy them out but I'd think a number of the big boys could move in to their areas, particularly Worcestershire and Preston, and set up new companies cheaper than actually purchasing Rotala. I could certainly see NX going into Redditch were Diamond to attempt any major new competition.
Personally think the next sale will be Arriva Midlands to either Stagecoach or NX.
However, saying that about Stagecoach, after just reading an article about them giving up the East Coast Main Line franchise early and potentially losing £200 million perhaps they will limit any more spending for a bit!
Quote from: j789 on February 05, 2018, 10:06:04 PM
Still think Rotala are at risk from the bigger players. Its an uncertain time at the moment so don't think the bigger groups would make a move as yet but I do think they would be open to a rival moving in and just sweeping them aside. Perhaps they are hoping a larger group will buy them out but I'd think a number of the big boys could move in to their areas, particularly Worcestershire and Preston, and set up new companies cheaper than actually purchasing Rotala. I could certainly see NX going into Redditch were Diamond to attempt any major new competition.
Personally think the next sale will be Arriva Midlands to either Stagecoach or NX.
I don't see Rotala increasing competition in the West Midlands against NX. All the WM acquisitions to date are independents with their own commercial services made up largely from services the big groups have axed, and also TfWM & various council tendered services. Rotala can obviously generate higher margins from those routes through economies of scale, with savings on fuel prices (due to Rotala hedging) and absorbing fleets in to existing depot/engineering overheads.
I wouldn't rule out Rotala either should Arriva Midlands ever come up for sale, their trading statement said they are still on the look out for further suitable acquistions with £10 million spare headroom for further expansion.
The only group that is currently in a strong position and frequently beating profit expectations is NX Group. I would rule out European / International Transport Groups casting their rules over the likes of Stagecoach with a Mkt Cap of £833 million.
Quote from: Winston on February 05, 2018, 10:32:57 PM
I don't see Rotala increasing competition in the West Midlands against NX. All the WM acquisitions to date are independents with their own commercial services made up largely from services the big groups have axed, and also TfWM & various council tendered services. Rotala can obviously generate higher margins from those routes through economies of scale, with savings on fuel prices (due to Rotala hedging) and absorbing fleets in to existing depot/engineering overheads.
I wouldn't rule out Rotala either should Arriva Midlands ever come up for sale, their trading statement said they are still on the look out for further suitable acquistions with £10 million spare headroom for further expansion.
The only group that is currently in a strong position and frequently beating profit expectations is NX Group. I would rule out European / International Transport Groups casting their rules over the likes of Stagecoach with a Mkt Cap of £833 million.
Most of Hansons routes were tendered services, weren't they, what services did they operate that the big groups axed?
The majority of Central Buses West Midlands services are also tendered aren't they?
What comercial routes do they operate that the big groups have axed, other than the 35 and Kingsbury services?
Quote from: Chris on February 05, 2018, 08:22:43 PM
With the acquisition of central buses the three main operators of the West Midlands is 1. NX 2. Diamond and 3. Igo. I have a feeling Igo will soon merge with diamond
I can't see that happening.
Quote from: j789 on February 05, 2018, 10:06:04 PM
Still think Rotala are at risk from the bigger players. Its an uncertain time at the moment so don't think the bigger groups would make a move as yet but I do think they would be open to a rival moving in and just sweeping them aside. Perhaps they are hoping a larger group will buy them out but I'd think a number of the big boys could move in to their areas, particularly Worcestershire and Preston, and set up new companies cheaper than actually purchasing Rotala. I could certainly see NX going into Redditch were Diamond to attempt any major new competition.
Personally think the next sale will be Arriva Midlands to either Stagecoach or NX.
I don't see this, the 'Bigger Players' have already altered their strategy and are now looking at alternative ways of strengthening their position rather than buying Bus Companies. The model Rotala are using for their expansion is effectively 20 years out of date.
With falling passenger numbers, increasing constraints on local government and rising costs it is clear to see that the bigger players are now having to adapt and diversify their Business Models. Just look at how many new Buses NX, First and Stagecoach have ordered? Far less than previous years. Same with local bus acquisitions. I would go as far to say I can also see First or Arriva pulling out of the UK Bus Market as time goes on should market conditions not change.
Quote from: Straightlines on February 06, 2018, 06:29:04 AM
I don't see this, the 'Bigger Players' have already altered their strategy and are now looking at alternative ways of strengthening their position rather than buying Bus Companies. The model Rotala are using for their expansion is effectively 20 years out of date.
With falling passenger numbers, increasing constraints on local government and rising costs it is clear to see that the bigger players are now having to adapt and diversify their Business Models. Just look at how many new Buses NX, First and Stagecoach have ordered? Far less than previous years. Same with local bus acquisitions. I would go as far to say I can also see First or Arriva pulling out of the UK Bus Market as time goes on should market conditions not change.
First are struggling both with their debt levels strangling capiatal investment / restricting expansion in more lucrative markets and UK Bus performance dragging the profitable US part of the group back. Some of UK buses poor performance stems from previous poor First Group decisions / failure to adapt, in addition, they now have deteriorating market conditions to contend with when already weak in some of their areas. I don't First exiting the UK, but I could see them contracting somewhat with potentially another round of Opoco sell off's / or main shareholders may finally loose patience and push for the entire group to be broken up & sold off. 5 years on from the rights issue, their shareprice is less than 20% above the rights issue price / main shareholders will still be nursing heavy losses and there is no prospect of a dividend being re-instated. Their strategy to turn the group around is not working.
I can see Arriva contracting further and exiting their more marginal UK bus ops, whilst retaining the better performing areas.
NX Group may be in a good position to pick up some UK bus ops of the above Groups if they can be turned around with investment under a different owner.
Quote from: Winston on February 06, 2018, 09:13:24 AM
First are struggling both with their debt levels strangling capiatal investment / restricting expansion in more lucrative markets and UK Bus performance dragging the profitable US part of the group back. Some of UK buses poor performance stems from previous poor First Group decisions / failure to adapt, in addition, they now have deteriorating market conditions to contend with when already weak in some of their areas. I don't First exiting the UK, but I could see them contracting somewhat with potentially another round of Opoco sell off's / or main shareholders may finally loose patience and push for the entire group to be broken up & sold off. 5 years on from the rights issue, their shareprice is less than 20% above the rights issue price / main shareholders will still be nursing heavy losses and there is no prospect of a dividend being re-instated. Their strategy to turn the group around is not working.
I can see Arriva contracting further and exiting their more marginal UK bus ops, whilst retaining the better performing areas.
NX Group may be in a good position to pick up some UK bus ops of the above Groups if they can be turned around with investment under a different owner.
I think it is well documented that National Express's growth is currently being driven by International Markets and Intercity Coach Travel.
I would find it surprising for them to make further acquisitions within Local Bus within the UK.
Quote from: Straightlines on February 06, 2018, 09:31:07 AM
I think it is well documented that National Express's growth is currently being driven by International Markets and Intercity Coach Travel.
I would find it surprising for them to make further acquisitions within Local Bus within the UK.
I think you're forgetting that NX Group were involved in the £100 million First Group disposals of 2012, and were strongly rumoured to be days away from acquiring at least Redditch/Kidderminster & Wigan depot ops plus potentially others as a package. The Group are now in a much stronger financial position should suitable businesses come up for sale that can be considered 'bolt on' to existing or are available at the right price and have turnaround potential under a different management / strategy.
Quote from: Winston on February 06, 2018, 09:51:29 AM
I think you're forgetting that NX Group were involved in the £100 million First Group disposals of 2012, and were strongly rumoured to be days away from acquiring at least Redditch/Kidderminster & Wigan depot ops plus potentially others as a package. The Group are now in a much stronger financial position should suitable businesses come up for sale that can be considered 'bolt on' to existing or are available at the right price and have turnaround potential under a different management / strategy.
We'll see!
The Bus Industry and operating conditions has changed massively since 2012...
Quote from: Winston on February 06, 2018, 09:51:29 AM
I think you're forgetting that NX Group were involved in the £100 million First Group disposals of 2012, and were strongly rumoured to be days away from acquiring at least Redditch/Kidderminster & Wigan depot ops plus potentially others as a package. The Group are now in a much stronger financial position should suitable businesses come up for sale that can be considered 'bolt on' to existing or are available at the right price and have turnaround potential under a different management / strategy.
There are issues of getting too large for your own good- in theory can have diseconomies of scale and divorce between ownership and control which is worsened in a large firm.
Quote from: Straightlines on February 06, 2018, 09:55:00 AM
We'll see!
The Bus Industry and operating conditions has changed massively since 2012...
NX are looking for bolt on additions
Quote from: Tony on February 06, 2018, 09:57:03 AM
NX are looking for bolt on additions
Thanks Boss! they'd be foolish not to in the current climate, if they can pick something up with potential at the right price and extract better margins than current owner without taking big risks. I don't see they have much much to loose.
Quote from: Tony on February 06, 2018, 09:57:03 AM
NX are looking for bolt on additions
I can't see who would be willing to sell out though? Arriva operations are looking a shambles in Cannock- but I doubt they would want to sell out to a regarded rival firm?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 06, 2018, 10:03:08 AM
I can't see who would be willing to sell out though? Arriva operations are looking a shambles in Cannock- but I doubt they would want to sell out to a regarded rival firm?
Arriva Cannock also came very close to being bought out by TWM (NX) some years ago and the plan was to absorb their routes and operate out of Walsall depot. This was before Arriva acquired Chase.
Quote from: Winston on February 06, 2018, 10:09:40 AM
Arriva Cannock also came very close to being bought out by TWM (NX) some years ago and the plan was to absorb their routes and operate out of Walsall depot. This was before Arriva acquired Chase.
Nothing stopping them now surely, apart from Monopolies & Mergers surely?
I'd be interested to see how much of Central's routes are hung onto, in the long run by Diamond, commercial or tendered.
If routes are being ditched by the big boys, for cost reasons, surely there's going to be a shortage of small operators willing to take on the routes eventually, if they keep being bought out by the big boys & looking at the Chase Bus situation on the other thread, I wouldn't hold my breath on them personally!
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 06, 2018, 10:03:08 AM
I can't see who would be willing to sell out though?
Anybody if the price is right. Especially independents established and grown by individuals who are tempted to cash in for their retirement.
A number of notable omissions from this morning's speculations:
the three smallish geographically separate First Midlands operations: Stoke, Leicester and Worcester;
Transdev - just acquired Rosso;
Go-Ahead - bought Swindon last year;
Claribels.
And I suspect that a careful watch is being kept on some of the remaining "municipalities". How sustainable are some of these? Look at the age profile of fleets such as Halton and Warrington.
Quote from: Westy on February 06, 2018, 12:59:26 PM
Nothing stopping them now surely, apart from Monopolies & Mergers surely?
I'd be interested to see how much of Central's routes are hung onto, in the long run by Diamond, commercial or tendered.
If routes are being ditched by the big boys, for cost reasons, surely there's going to be a shortage of small operators willing to take on the routes eventually, if they keep being bought out by the big boys & looking at the Chase Bus situation on the other thread, I wouldn't hold my breath on them personally!
I can't really see NX adding Arriva Cannock ops causing too much interest from the Dft / Oft, especially if they were looking to invest & grow them. Select also run some routes in those areas, as will Rotala via Central Buses soon
By acquiring Arriva Wednesfield, Hanson's & Central Buses, Rotala have effectively removed three competitors for TfWM Black Country area tendered routes, which may help to push up prices and can obviously extract more profit from absorbing those independents due to synergies.
Quote from: DeanM66A on February 06, 2018, 01:15:14 PM
Anybody if the price is right. Especially independents established and grown by individuals who are tempted to cash in for their retirement.
A number of notable omissions from this morning's speculations:
the three smallish geographically separate First Midlands operations: Stoke, Leicester and Worcester;
Transdev - just acquired Rosso;
Go-Ahead - bought Swindon last year;
Claribels.
And I suspect that a careful watch is being kept on some of the remaining "municipalities". How sustainable are some of these? Look at the age profile of fleets such as Halton and Warrington.
First Midland Red Limited (Worcester) only made a £32k profit up to March 25th 2017, they reported a £1.28 Million loss the year prior on closure of Hereford.
Leicester Citybus is one of First UK Bus better performing op's, however profit fell from £3.39 Million in 2016 to £2.06 Million @ 25th March 2017.
Warrington are in the process of taking 13 x E200MMC's to up date their fleet, Halton appear to be struggling & I've seen online that Stagecoach are eyeing them up.
Quote from: Winston on February 06, 2018, 01:44:46 PM
First Midland Red Limited (Worcester) only made a £32k profit up to March 25th 2017, they reported a £1.28 Million loss the year prior on closure of Hereford.
Leicester Citybus is one of First UK Bus better performing op's, however profit fell from £3.39 Million in 2016 to £2.06 Million @ 25th March 2017.
Warrington are in the process of taking 13 x E200MMC's to up date their fleet, Halton appear to be struggling & I've seen online that Stagecoach are eyeing them up.
Do you know how First South Yorkshire are doing last year? They're another bit I have heard might be struggling.
Quote from: Tony on February 06, 2018, 02:06:48 PM
Do you know how First South Yorkshire are doing last year? They're another bit I have heard might be struggling.
First South Yorkshire Limited £4.530 Million operating loss (25th March 2017) compared with £2.02 Million loss 2016
First Manchester Limited £5.164 Million loss (25th March 2017) compared with £1.273 Million profit 2016.
The figures are pretty dire across most First Group Opoco's,
Quote from: Winston on February 06, 2018, 02:16:16 PM
First South Yorkshire Limited £4.530 Million operating loss (25th March 2017) compared with £2.02 Million loss 2016
First Manchester Limited £5.164 Million loss (25th March 2017) compared with £1.273 Million profit 2016.
The figures are pretty dire across most First Group Opoco's,
You shouldn't be losing money in PTE areas. First West Yorkshire is still OK isn't it
Quote from: Tony on February 06, 2018, 02:27:44 PM
You shouldn't be losing money in PTE areas. First West Yorkshire is still OK isn't it
FWY is £11.7 Million down from £16 Million the year before.
Ever heard of Google & Companies House.....😋🤣
While it's commendable that First are putting 41 new buses in to Kernow this year, they're never going to generate the growth & profit they could if put in to a PTE op.
Just looking at the Market capitalisation of the big 4 (which is the total value of the shares of the company)
£625,740,000 - Go-Ahead group
£780,890,000 - Stagecoach
£1,190,000,000 - First group
£1,800,000,000 - National Express
How times change, when NX were in danger of a takeover Stagecoach was a much more valuable company than National Express, Now NX are worth more than twice as much as Stagecoach.
Exactly, hence my comments earlier that NX are well positioned to take advantage of the current market & potential sell off's.
Maybe NX could offer to merge with Stagecoach this time around, it's the only way Souter will get his hands on NXWM.....
Quote from: Winston on February 06, 2018, 03:03:51 PM
Maybe NX could offer to merge with Stagecoach this time around, it's the only way Souter will get his hands on NXWM.....
Plus would be good for shareholders.
I could have sworn this was the Central Buses thread?
Diamond's 20883 on loan to Central Buses:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/40088636552
One and all, the 3 deckers will be allocated to Tividale mainly for the 39 40 42, and will stray to other services that can take the deckers, all other allocations have yet to be confirmed.
21108 EU06KOX
21109 EU06KPA
30896 EU06WGM
21110 EU06JVW
30897 AE06ZBR
30898 AE06ZBT
21105 BU12LJL
21106 BU12LJN
30899 BU12LJO
21107 BU12LJV
30900 MX56YHA
20886 YJ59PKA
20887 YJ59PKE
20888 YJ59PKD
30901 YX63ZXK
30902 YX63ZXL
30903 YX64VLZ
30904 YJ57XVT
30905 YJ57XVW
30906 YJ57XVX
30907 YJ57XVY
30908 SK15GYA
40630 PN03UMJ
40631 PN03ULU
40632 PN03ULV
30909 YJ16DDL
30910 YJ16DDN
30911 YJ16DDO
30912 YJ16YJH
30913 YJ16YJJ
30914 YJ16YJK
@Kevin2017 how do you know this?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 07, 2018, 05:50:47 PM
@Kevin2017 how do you know this?
Does it matter how.
I believe it is correct. If I thought it wasn't I would have commented or deleted it
Cheers for that Tony, Central have two loans, 20883 Solo SR from Tiv and a Scania from Nottingham YN53 CFG. And an E200 an 11 plate of D and G they had before.
Kpa with new engine should be done this week umj trident was done yesterday and i believe ulv trident should have a new engine next week
Quote from: Kevin2017 on February 07, 2018, 06:05:57 PM
Cheers for that Tony, Central have two loans, 20883 Solo SR from Tiv and a Scania from Nottingham YN53 CFG.
What is the Scania used on
@Kevin2017 ?
Probably the usual routes that deckers run?
No1 going to Redditch with s1 plus 2 off 75 1x75 Tamworth 108 78 61 88 89 74 74a 30 plus schools are going to tivedale kiddi service will transfer to diamond kiddie depots, that is what is being drafted up in the schedules office earlier today.
Quote from: Kevin2017 on February 07, 2018, 05:20:24 PM
One and all, the 3 deckers will be allocated to Tividale mainly for the 39 40 42, and will stray to other services that can take the deckers, all other allocations have yet to be confirmed.
39?
Quote from: 4Q on February 08, 2018, 06:05:17 AM
http://www.centralbuses.com/bus-times/
Ahh okay, cheers
@4Q
Quote from: Kevin2017 on February 07, 2018, 05:20:24 PM
One and all, the 3 deckers will be allocated to Tividale mainly for the 39 40 42, and will stray to other services that can take the deckers, all other allocations have yet to be confirmed.
Which 42 are you referring to? If it's the one from Tipton to West Brom, then it'd be interesting to see a Diamond decker on there, that's for sure.
Quote from: DJ98 on February 08, 2018, 08:23:38 AM
Which 42 are you referring to? If it's the one from Tipton to West Brom, then it'd be interesting to see a Diamond decker on there, that's for sure.
I believe it the ex central routes 39,40,42. I also thought it was diamond routes but I'm sure it's not
Quote from: DJ98 on February 08, 2018, 08:23:38 AM
Which 42 are you referring to? If it's the one from Tipton to West Brom, then it'd be interesting to see a Diamond decker on there, that's for sure.
No, it's a school service
Oddly on traveline if you search for the routes they are shown as 39,40,42 but when you go to the timetables they are 739/40/2.
Quote from: John on February 08, 2018, 08:25:00 AM
No, it's a school service
Ah, my bad. I just presumed once I read 42 and Tividale together, apologies.
Interesting to note in Walsall Bus Station Travel Shop today, that both the NWM & Central Buses versions of the revised 35 timetable leaflet were available.
Now out of the 2 versions, the NWM version would be more useful, as it shows the NX Sunday Service as well.
I suppose the Central Buses version will fall officially out of use during this month, in favour of the NWM version?
(Seeing Diamond, not to mention certain other companies, CBB to supply their own leaflets, to fill gaps in NWM's own range of leaflets!)
Central Buses will be doing a running day on the 24th of February on the 35, to mark their last day of operation. So far they have announced that the Routemaster will be used and also Midland Classic's 55.
21105 BU12LJL Kidderminster
30909 YJ16DDL Kidderminster
30910 YJ16DDN Kidderminster
30911 YJ16DDO Kidderminster
30904 YJ57XVT Redditch
30905 YJ57XVW Redditch
30899 BU12LJO Redditch
21107 BU12LJV Redditch
21106 BU12LJN Redditch
30900 MX56YHA Tamworth
30906 YJ57XVX Tamworth
30907 YJ57XVY Tamworth
20886 YJ59PKA Tamworth
30901 YX63ZXK Tamworth
30902 YX63ZXL Tamworth
30903 YX64VLZ Tamworth
30908 SK15GYA Tamworth
30912 YJ16YJH Tamworth
30913 YJ16YJJ Tamworth
30914 YJ16YJK Tamworth
40630 PN03UMJ Tividale
40631 PN03ULU Tividale
40632 PN03ULV Tividale
21108 EU06KOX Tividale
21110 EU06JVW Tividale
21109 EU06KPA Tividale
30896 EU06WGM Tividale
30898 AE06ZBT Tividale
20887 YJ59PKE Tividale
20888 YJ59PKD Tividale
Quote from: Kevin2017 on February 07, 2018, 06:20:37 PM
No1 going to Redditch with s1 plus 2 off 75 1x75 Tamworth 108 78 61 88 89 74 74a 30 plus schools are going to tivedale kiddi service will transfer to diamond kiddie depots, that is what is being drafted up in the schedules office earlier today.
Which garage are getting the 91?
Details of vehicle runnings for there running day are now on there website.
http://www.centralbuses.com/news/runningday/
What has happened to AE 06 ZBR-the only one which according to my notes has not been accounted for?
Are the destination displays getting replaced? I'm guessing they will.
Also 30910,11&12 are allocated to vehicles at Atherton will they be renumbered?
This has been noted and
@Simon Dunn has changed them today.
Quote from: markcf83 on February 20, 2018, 06:03:49 PM
What has happened to AE 06 ZBR-the only one which according to my notes has not been accounted for?
Was missed off the list posted.
AE06ZBR will be 30897 and should be allocated to Tividale
Thanks for that Winston. Did find it odd that it was left off......
Going back to the running day, I note the majority of the Lichfield journeys are being operated by the 'guest' vehicles.
Would I be correct in thinking the short Aldridge journeys would be operated by standard low floor vehicles, to maintain easy access facilities on that route, as the Routemasters are not easy access?
Quote from: Westy on February 23, 2018, 11:40:24 PM
Going back to the running day, I note the majority of the Lichfield journeys are being operated by the 'guest' vehicles.
Would I be correct in thinking the short Aldridge journeys would be operated by standard low floor vehicles, to maintain easy access facilities on that route, as the Routemasters are not easy access?
The only vehicle that isn't easy access is the RML. The journeys allocated to the RML will have a duplicate vehicle to ensure DDA standards are maintained.
Unless it's hidden somewhere on the forum, there hasn't been any comment on today's running day.
Was I the only one off the forum that went?
Quote from: Westy on February 24, 2018, 09:59:19 PM
Unless it's hidden somewhere on the forum, there hasn't been any comment on today's running day.
Was I the only one off the forum that went?
R2 NEG was on it wasn't it?
@Westy
Quote from: Jack on February 24, 2018, 10:04:06 PM
R2 NEG was on it wasn't it? @Westy
It was, but I caught the RM at 1035 from Walsall & the one in Stevensons livery back from Lichfield at 1238, then did some shopping in Walsall Tesco.
I did take some pics on my phone, which I'll stick on my FaceBook at some point!
Quote from: Westy on February 24, 2018, 10:29:54 PM
It was, but I caught the RM at 1035 from Walsall & the one in Stevensons livery back from Lichfield at 1238, then did some shopping in Walsall Tesco.
I did take some pics on my phone, which I'll stick on my FaceBook at some point!
If I'd known I would of had a bash, but I didn't hear anything about it.
I read on one of the Facebook groups that 89 91 108 are going to Tamworth
Quote from: Central Buses on February 24, 2018, 02:43:23 AM
The only vehicle that isn't easy access is the RML. The journeys allocated to the RML will have a duplicate vehicle to ensure DDA standards are maintained.
Professionally run operation to the end. The Routemaster was immaculately turned out and the use of an Enviro duplicate when few operators would have bothered was commendable.
The specially printed farewell day tickets were a nice touch, and credit to Midland Classic for not only providing Optare Spectra 41 and Stevensons liveried Scania Omnidekka 55, but also for excepting Central's day ranger tickets on all of their services.
What a great day, was good to see so many out to bid us farewell. Bringing the Spectra into Walsall at 1435 was fun, we seemed to create quite a stir. Hope I let you all get your photos! Would be good to know where they're all posted.
A fitting end to great operator and team who I've been privileged to work with.
Hello
I've just put a few of my photos on Flickr, if anyone is interested.
Quote from: andy41 on February 25, 2018, 10:04:49 AM
What a great day, was good to see so many out to bid us farewell. Bringing the Spectra into Walsall at 1435 was fun, we seemed to create quite a stir. Hope I let you all get your photos! Would be good to know where they're all posted.
A fitting end to great operator and team who I've been privileged to work with.
Here's former NXWM 4002:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/48828195@N07/39751384734/in/dateposted/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/twmmcw/40461303251/in/dateposted/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/twmmcw/25590413097/in/dateposted/
Plus more from the day:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/48828195@N07/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/137422482@N05/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/132355857@N02/
Thanks Winston, you got me!
Here is a selection of my pictures I took yesterday for Central Buses Farewell Day. What a fantastic Farewell Day from Central Buses and it was kind of Midland Classic to send out two of their buses for the day. It's a great shame to see another independent operator to disappear. Hope you like my pictures.
TFA 13 (YN54 OAG) in Aldridge: https://flic.kr/p/24BhS2f
JJD 411D in Lichfield Bus Station: https://flic.kr/p/23iWQXz
TFA 13 (YN54 OAG) leaving Lichfield Bus Station: https://flic.kr/p/24BhNTb
R2 NEG in Lichfield town: https://flic.kr/p/F21Bj6
Rear shot of R2 NEG and a bit of JJD 411D: https://flic.kr/p/F21zoc
R2 NEG somewhere on A461: https://flic.kr/p/24F7ojg
TFA 13 (YN54 OAG) in Walsall: https://flic.kr/p/23iWJHa
JJD 411D by the Arboretum roundabout in Walsall: https://flic.kr/p/24BhHEq
Quote from: P419 EJW on February 25, 2018, 05:39:44 PM
Here is a selection of my pictures I took yesterday for Central Buses Farewell Day. What a fantastic Farewell Day from Central Buses and it was kind of Midland Classic to send out two of their buses for the day. It's a great shame to see another independent operator to disappear. Hope you like my pictures.
TFA 13 (YN54 OAG) in Aldridge: https://flic.kr/p/24BhS2f
JJD 411D in Lichfield Bus Station: https://flic.kr/p/23iWQXz
TFA 13 (YN54 OAG) leaving Lichfield Bus Station: https://flic.kr/p/24BhNTb
R2 NEG in Lichfield town: https://flic.kr/p/F21Bj6
Rear shot of R2 NEG and a bit of JJD 411D: https://flic.kr/p/F21zoc
R2 NEG somewhere on A461: https://flic.kr/p/24F7ojg
TFA 13 (YN54 OAG) in Walsall: https://flic.kr/p/23iWJHa
JJD 411D by the Arboretum roundabout in Walsall: https://flic.kr/p/24BhHEq
Great photos!
Looked like a great day. Shame Central Buses are being wiped out by Diamond. Their livery is very smart.
Quote from: Jack on February 25, 2018, 06:34:44 PM
Great photos!
Looked like a great day. Shame Central Buses are being wiped out by Diamond. Their livery is very smart.
Thank you! I try my best with my pictures. ;)
Ex Central Buses Bus on route 25 today Ward End - Erdington. Must be doing route training as there is 3 drivers on the bus.
Noticed that none of the ex central buses routes are on Diamonds tracking app
Quote from: the trainbasher on February 26, 2018, 02:14:43 PM
Noticed that none of the ex central buses routes are on Diamonds tracking app
The 142 is. 20883 is on there today great bus
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 26, 2018, 02:40:29 PM
The 142 is. 20883 is on there today great bus
The daytime 142 appears to be operated by Kidderminster, whilst the evening & weekend 142 Tividale
Quote from: Jack D on February 26, 2018, 01:57:58 PM
Ex Central Buses Bus on route 25 today Ward End - Erdington. Must be doing route training as there is 3 drivers on the bus.
21110.
Quote from: Winston on February 26, 2018, 02:51:36 PM
The daytime 142 appears to be operated by Kidderminster, whilst the evening & weekend 142 Tividale
Thought 20883 was a tividale bus?
Has any Central vehicles been spotted with Diamond fleetname stickers yet?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/155430934@N06/40540172061/in/photolist-mQgZj5-qmwAon-s22TC2-oJSHna-egKSi7-fZLME1-PiEXxu-oJTis3-egE7wr-dxDkgn-hnwBzi-VNq4th-XUF7KY-zuxY1e-Wn2TvQ-QsNfR6-24LoYKP-BVrrqA-v74Ksw-LUH47L-znCmY2
Did a Central branded vehicle get on the Walsall 302 today?
Saw one as indicated on the Black Country New Road this morning.
Quote from: Westy on March 02, 2018, 07:16:06 PM
Did a Central branded vehicle get on the Walsall 302 today?
Saw one as indicated on the Black Country New Road this morning.
There was one on the 57/58 & another on the 146 today
Quote from: Westy on February 26, 2018, 05:49:07 PM
Has any Central vehicles been spotted with Diamond fleetname stickers yet?
There will be one one the road soon!
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on March 02, 2018, 07:37:16 PM
There will be one one the road soon!
30962 BU12 LJO and 30969 YJ57 XVX are now Diamond branded
Quote from: metrocity on March 09, 2018, 04:20:00 AM
30962 BU12 LJO and 30969 YJ57 XVX are now Diamond branded
30962 been done about a week, my bus for the 75 today!
Ex Central Buses 103 has seemingly been abandoned in Perry Barr tonight, still at the one stop bus station at 01:22
Noticed on the fleetlist Versa 'YJ57 XVW' is listed as 30968, but saw it today in Sutton and it has the fleetnumber 30905 on the bus. Do we know which is right?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/39053625010/
Quote from: John on March 17, 2018, 07:46:36 PM
Noticed on the fleetlist Versa 'YJ57 XVW' is listed as 30968, but saw it today in Sutton and it has the fleetnumber 30905 on the bus. Do we know which is right?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/39053625010/
@John 30968 is the correct fleetnumber, 30905 was it's initial fleetnumber.
The bulk of the Central Buses fleet i.e. full length Darts / E200's / Versa's & Metrocity's were initially allocated 30896-30914 (see post #1501)
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=324.1500
However, it was soon realised that 30910-12 were already allocated to Diamond Bus NW Scania/East Lancs Esteem's, hence the above batch of ex Central Buses being re-numbered to 30960-30977.
Quote from: Winston on March 17, 2018, 11:00:33 PM
@John 30968 is the correct fleetnumber, 30905 was it's initial fleetnumber.
The bulk of the Central Buses fleet i.e. full length Darts / E200's / Versa's & Metrocity's were initially allocated 30896-30914 (see post #1501)
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=324.1500
However, it was soon realised that 30910-12 were already allocated to Diamond Bus NW Scania/East Lancs Esteem's, hence the above batch of ex Central Buses being re-numbered to 30960-30977.
Thanks Winston. Makes sense. Is the 75 ran from Redditch or Tamworth? As I thought it was going to Tamworth but 30968 is at Redditch on the fleet list
Quote from: John on March 17, 2018, 11:04:08 PM
Thanks Winston. Makes sense. Is the 75 ran from Redditch or Tamworth? As I thought it was going to Tamworth but 30968 is at Redditch on the fleet list
Redditch.
Two running boards anyway. I think there's another running board ran from Tamworth.
@Matt.N0056 you'll have to confirm this
Quote from: John on March 17, 2018, 11:04:08 PM
Thanks Winston. Makes sense. Is the 75 ran from Redditch or Tamworth? As I thought it was going to Tamworth but 30968 is at Redditch on the fleet list
AS MW says, I believe the 75 is jointly oeprated by Tamworth & Redditch.
Quote from: Winston on March 17, 2018, 11:30:38 PM
AS MW says, I believe the 75 is jointly oeprated by Tamworth & Redditch.
Thanks both 😁
As Tamworth runs 91 as a guess will run the peak working
on 75 then go on to 91 & back to 75
Redditch has the majority of the 75. Extra bus in peak and breaks covered by either Tamworth or Tividale
How many of the central buses now have diamond logos on
Staffordshire County Council has just sent me a message saying that the 82 service is cancelled from 1 April.
Why do they call the outstation "Tamworth" when it is well within Lichfield's jurisdiction?
Quote from: derningtona on March 20, 2018, 10:48:26 AM
Staffordshire County Council has just sent me a message saying that the 82 service is cancelled from 1 April.
Why do they call the outstation "Tamworth" when it is well within Lichfield's jurisdiction?
There is a new emergency tender out at the moment for the 82 and the current one will probably be extended while they consider the bids. The notification is drawn directly from VOSA and the extension / re registration will be done on short notice.
The outstation may be in the Lichfield District Council area but is much closer to Tamworth.
Quote from: andy41 on March 20, 2018, 11:11:35 AM
There is a new emergency tender out at the moment for the 82 and the current one will probably be extended while they consider the bids. The notification is drawn directly from VOSA and the extension / re registration will be done on short notice.
The outstation may be in the Lichfield District Council area but is much closer to Tamworth.
Hope the confusion over the 82 is cleared up soon as Staffordshire County Council's website simply says it is to be withdrawn, without mentioning any possible replacement for the villages otherwise left busless.
As for the outstation site, bear in mind Tamworth Borough is indeed surrounded on most of three sides by Lichfield District but many of the villages in that area will have Tamworth postal addresses, which can be confusing. Twycross Zoo is in Leicestershire but has an Atherstone (Warwickshire) postal address and CV (Coventry, West Midlands County) postcode.
Quote from: Smethwickian on March 20, 2018, 12:07:12 PM
Hope the confusion over the 82 is cleared up soon as Staffordshire County Council's website simply says it is to be withdrawn, without mentioning any possible replacement for the villages otherwise left busless.
As for the outstation site, bear in mind Tamworth Borough is indeed surrounded on most of three sides by Lichfield District but many of the villages in that area will have Tamworth postal addresses, which can be confusing. Twycross Zoo is in Leicestershire but has an Atherstone (Warwickshire) postal address and CV (Coventry, West Midlands County) postcode.
I've always thought Sandwell was a confusing area for postcodes, since we don't have our own one. For example, my area's DY4 yet it's in Sandwell, and West Bromwich has a Birmingham post code, and I'm pretty sure there's some areas like Wednesbury that have Walsall postcodes.
Quote from: DJ98 on March 20, 2018, 01:01:38 PM
I've always thought Sandwell was a confusing area for postcodes, since we don't have our own one. For example, my area's DY4 yet it's in Sandwell, and West Bromwich has a Birmingham post code, and I'm pretty sure there's some areas like Wednesbury that have Walsall postcodes.
West Brom is B71 and Wednesbury is WS10. So yeah, Wednesbury has a Walsall postcode and West Bromwich has a Birmingham postcode, pretty sure Smethwick has a Birmingham postcode as aswell.
Postcodes relate to Royal Mail sorting offices, nothing else
Where I work in Great Bridge :( is Dy4 !
The former Central school routes to Aldridge 39/40 seem to have been reprogrammed back to 739/740 on the displays
Any reason for this?
Quote from: Tony on March 20, 2018, 02:13:42 PM
Postcodes relate to Royal Mail sorting offices, nothing else
I think it would be better to say delivery areas, as CW is of course sorted at Warrington, and I seem to recall from Christmas temping that even before rationalisation some LL postcodes were dealt with by Chester.
Didnt get the number, but the ex Central vehicle operating the 35 / 35a in Walsall today, nice to see Diamond took the trouble to 'colour match' the replacement Diamond logo on the vehicle, unlike the ex Arriva vehicles, which just had a dark blue logo stuck on top of the aquamarine!
There was 2 versas on 35
Re route 82 being withdrawn, Solus will be running one return journey two days a week, free of charge and paid for by the parish councils of the villages left busless.
Two of the President deckers were on the Tividale 42/43 today, been a while since I've seen a decker on one of those routes, NX or Diamond.
Quote from: StourValley98 on March 31, 2018, 06:44:38 PM
Two of the President deckers were on the Tividale 42/43 today, been a while since I've seen a decker on one of those routes, NX or Diamond.
There was one on there on Good Friday aswell
Decker on the 002
Decker on 4 just left West Brom
Quote from: Solo1 on April 04, 2018, 02:44:50 PM
Decker on 4 just left West Brom
40630.
On the 4 again today.
Whats 30977 doing this afternoon?
I saw it heading south down Bromford Lane at the Fox and Goose about 15 minutes ago, the tracker shows that its now on Albert Road in Stechford?
Is it the bus that usually would do the 16S and then operate out of service via the Fox And Goose to operate the X16 from the City Centre, unusual that it was heading towards Stechford?
Quote from: Jack on April 04, 2018, 02:55:26 PM
40630.
Was this the same double decker that was on around 7am in Walsall?
Seen one of the Central Buses vehicles on the 002 earlier and noticed it had a scrolling display. Personally I prefer those. Especially for routes like the 002 which has various via points.
Do any of the central buses which went to tividale have there new logos on yet
Currently on 30961 on 4H what a brilliant bus! No rattles- nice engine!
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 06, 2018, 11:17:49 AM
Currently on 30961 on 4H what a brilliant bus! No rattles- nice engine!
The big Ex-Central Dart's are what you call a Dart, compared to the Ex-Central MPD's. The big Darts can fly down roads on the 78. Lichfield Road, Streetly Lane etc.
Just drove past fleet number 30905 with "Diamond" fleetnames on the 75.
Anyone know if 40631 has been used in service yet? Or if not why not?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 07, 2018, 08:54:43 PM
Anyone know if 40631 has been used in service yet? Or if not why not?
It's been on loan to Redditch and has been on the 57/58 while there.
Quote from: Jack on April 07, 2018, 08:58:15 PM
It's been on loan to Redditch and has been on the 57/58 while there.
Oh ok thanks
Does anyone know if the Perry Barr depot they had has closed now thanks.
Quote from: Jaysnerz007 on April 07, 2018, 11:29:31 PM
Does anyone know if the Perry Barr depot they had has closed now thanks.
Still being used by them under their new trading name
Quote from: Tony on April 08, 2018, 09:16:55 AM
Still being used by them under their new trading name
The former Kidderminster outstation has been put out to market
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/commercial-property-to-let/property-64190752.html
The Kidderminster outstation did they have an office or was 1 of the buses used as an office
21108 is on the 55.
21107/30962/30965 are all on the 50 today :D
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on April 22, 2018, 04:44:52 PM
21107/30962/30965 are all on the 50 today :D
how come they are using Tamworth & Redditch buses on the 50 todzay unless they ar on loan to tividale
Quote from: Solo1 on April 22, 2018, 04:52:26 PM
how come they are using Tamworth & Redditch buses on the 50 todzay unless they ar on loan to tividale
Tividale operate the 50 Monday to Saturday.
Redditch operate the 50 on Sunday.
Quote from: Solo1 on April 22, 2018, 04:52:26 PM
how come they are using Tamworth & Redditch buses on the 50 todzay unless they ar on loan to tividale
Think YX63ZXL may have moved to Redditch depot
@Solo1 as I saw it in Redditch last weekend
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on April 22, 2018, 05:32:15 PM
Think YX63ZXL may have moved to Redditch depot @Solo1 as I saw it in Redditch last weekend
It has been at Redditch since the Central buses moved over. There was some changes to which garages the buses were going to before they moved
Quote from: 2206 on April 22, 2018, 04:55:17 PM
Tividale operate the 50 Monday to Saturday.
Redditch operate the 50 on Sunday.
how come sunday Redditch run the 50
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on April 22, 2018, 05:48:52 PM
It has been at Redditch since the Central buses moved over. There was some changes to which garages the buses were going to before they moved
Thanks
@Matt.N0056 , was just going off the main site fleet list
Quote from: Solo1 on April 22, 2018, 05:52:07 PM
how come sunday Redditch run the 50
Tividale buses busy doing all the tendered work on Sunday's, lol
The 50's nice on a Sunday. Makes a change to Solihull for me!
Here's what I had on it the other week
https://flic.kr/p/267VdZJ
30960? And 40630 are/were on the 40.
30899 still in Central red on the Coventry 1 today.
No working destination blinds or temp paper sticker.