Has NXWM finally seen the light?

[RW]

Just an impression but have more Platinums on Sutton routes lost the vinyl plague on their rear windows. Is the blockade finally over? Have NXWM decided to share the light with its fare paying passengers? Can passengers finally leave their reading lights at home and no longer have to shield their eyes when they step off a Platinum into the light? Hopefully yes but time will tell. Could just be that they just haven't got round to blocking out windows missed first time round!

[JoNi]

Next step internal vynals that are not grey!

[John]

No. They have had replacement windows and branding is not replaced. They look awful with bits of branding missing

[Mike K]

Just an impression but have more Platinums on Sutton routes lost the vinyl plague on their rear windows. Is the blockade finally over? Have NXWM decided to share the light with its fare paying passengers? Can passengers finally leave their reading lights at home and no longer have to shield their eyes when they step off a Platinum into the light? Hopefully yes but time will tell. Could just be that they just haven't got round to blocking out windows missed first time round!

Alas, more of the former X61 branded ones received generic Platinum branding last weekend, and their rear windows are no more.

[mikestone]

Lets not forget that the lack of rear windows started with the Optare Spectra so many enthusiasts rave about.

[lauren1993]

You don't need to see out of the rear windows. Can't see why everyone keeps moaning about it. There is nothing wrong with branding over the rear window, it looks smart and striking to the public, which promotes the route and is actually noticeable.

[RW]

You don't need to see out of the rear windows. Can't see why everyone keeps moaning about it. There is nothing wrong with branding over the rear window, it looks smart and striking to the public, which promotes the route and is actually noticeable.

'....smart and striking...' is not a term I would use. Boring, disfiguring and tasteless are a few of the words I would choose to use to describe the vinyl plague.  Have you seen a Platinum without vinyls, a genuinely classy looking PSV? Why ruin it's appearance. If you think people stand at the side of the road admiring a vinyl adorned vehicle I think you are sadly mistaken.

[JoNi]

Branding over rear windows is a fad. They make the bus dark inside coupled with the drab grey interiors. Have a ride on the 23/A (Coventry) to see how depressing it makes a short bus.

[Jack]

I think they just leave the rear windows not branded as it just means there's light in a gloom filled bus. Also you can see if there's another bus behind that you could change onto on the same road.

[RW]

We don't have many polls on here let's see if we can get a few more votes to make it as representative an outcome amongst members as possible.

[2206]

Bit off topic but was on 6888 on 70 afternoon journey and why is the back window covered

Similarly, I noticed when I saw 6147 on the 76 earlier that it's lower deck rear window had been blackened out.
Does anyone know when this was done (I don't see these YW E400 MMC very often) and why it was done?
It certainly hasn't always been like that -
https://www.flickr.com/photos/101550299@N05/27558243870/in/photolist-YndTjb-2b6LTL4-2aWUXv6-HZecMG-YAEFeZ-TNPDrs-23Y6iDy-JpNjmi-XZ5i4Q-26edJNv-Xrpas5-wyuHfQ-ujBgMA-wzEGBZ-XmieMi-xBSEjj-x4Yygu

[Martin]

Similarly, I noticed when I saw 6147 on the 76 earlier that it's lower deck rear window had been blackened out.
Does anyone know when this was done (I don't see these YW E400 MMC very often) and why it was done?
It certainly hasn't always been like that -
https://www.flickr.com/photos/101550299@N05/27558243870/in/photolist-YndTjb-2b6LTL4-2aWUXv6-HZecMG-YAEFeZ-TNPDrs-23Y6iDy-JpNjmi-XZ5i4Q-26edJNv-Xrpas5-wyuHfQ-ujBgMA-wzEGBZ-XmieMi-xBSEjj-x4Yygu

From what I can see in the picture it's not been blackened out as you can still see inside of the bus from the back window.

[2206]

From what I can see in the picture it's not been blackened out as you can still see inside of the bus from the back window.

The pictures from a while back (It's dated 21/06/16) - I linked that to show that it wasn't always like that, it's also on the 2 in that pic and not on the 76. Hence why I said "it certainly wasn't always like that"
I think i'd know if it was blacked out and couldn't see inside the bus, it's on the 76 today with the rear window blacked out.

[the trainbasher]

I'm in favour of the upper windows being covered in adverts/branding.

Means I don't have to see as much of some of the dumps in the Midlands (cough merry hill cough)

[RW]

Can't tell from the photos posted of the new Xplore Dundee 400 at BC but was wondering whether the vinyl vandals have already struck or are about to strike and disfigure a really classy looking vehicle by blocking out at least the rear windows. I'm sure residents of Dundee would be proud to have these vehicles on their streets in 'as new' condition. Not going to happen though is it? NX just won't be able to resist!