Diamond Bus - Discussion

[Nathan4775]

30828 on 002 today every seat taken heading out of Bartley Green towards Merry Hill (including luggage rack!) with up to 10 standees, at least 50 people on board in total. Surely this reinforces the need for double deckers for the 002!

Diamond dont have any double deckers ?

But remeber its a Saturday so more people are going to want to get out and about before heading back to work Monday, as Monday - Friday loadings cannot be that high to require doubles ?

[PM]

30828 on 002 today every seat taken heading out of Bartley Green towards Merry Hill (including luggage rack!) with up to 10 standees, at least 50 people on board in total. Surely this reinforces the need for double deckers for the 002!

Diamond dont have any double deckers ?

But remeber its a Saturday so more people are going to want to get out and about before heading back to work Monday, as Monday - Friday loadings cannot be that high to require doubles ?

Theyve got some ex preston tridents at redditch and the ex first ones until they go but yeah that is true-the trick is to provide capacity for this and the peaks without having too much surplus capacity between the peaks. In fairness first in redditch got this right with the enviros....

[nitromatt1]

30828 on 002 today every seat taken heading out of Bartley Green towards Merry Hill (including luggage rack!) with up to 10 standees, at least 50 people on board in total. Surely this reinforces the need for double deckers for the 002!

Diamond dont have any double deckers ?

But remeber its a Saturday so more people are going to want to get out and about before heading back to work Monday, as Monday - Friday loadings cannot be that high to require doubles ?

Read my post again Nathan, I didn't say they did ;)

And incorrect, standing loads aren't common but almost every 002 gets packed especially towards Merry Hill Mon-Fri as well.

[Nathan4775]

30828 on 002 today every seat taken heading out of Bartley Green towards Merry Hill (including luggage rack!) with up to 10 standees, at least 50 people on board in total. Surely this reinforces the need for double deckers for the 002!

Diamond dont have any double deckers ?

But remeber its a Saturday so more people are going to want to get out and about before heading back to work Monday, as Monday - Friday loadings cannot be that high to require doubles ?

Read my post again Nathan, I didn't say they did ;)

And incorrect, standing loads aren't common but almost every 002 gets packed especially towards Merry Hill Mon-Fri as well.

Apologies your right you didnt say they had DD's  :) sorry

Around what time does it get packed and were about from, as Ive rode the 002 route from Weoley Castle - M'Hill and not known it to be full to the brim, known some of the return journeys leaving MerryH to be full

[nitromatt1]

30828 on 002 today every seat taken heading out of Bartley Green towards Merry Hill (including luggage rack!) with up to 10 standees, at least 50 people on board in total. Surely this reinforces the need for double deckers for the 002!

Diamond dont have any double deckers ?

But remeber its a Saturday so more people are going to want to get out and about before heading back to work Monday, as Monday - Friday loadings cannot be that high to require doubles ?

Read my post again Nathan, I didn't say they did ;)

And incorrect, standing loads aren't common but almost every 002 gets packed especially towards Merry Hill Mon-Fri as well.

Apologies your right you didnt say they had DD's  :) sorry

Around what time does it get packed and were about from, as Ive rode the 002 route from Weoley Castle - M'Hill and not known it to be full to the brim, known some of the return journeys leaving MerryH to be full

I live on the route, I generally see more 002s going towards Merry Hill full but it depends entirely on the time of day. In all honesty, any journey can get packed, and putting an MPD on there is asking for trouble. Then, you have all the schoolkids getting on Mon-Fri at the start/end of school...

There is no reason why the 002 cannot have deckers and I really think Rotala should look at sourcing some for a double deck conversion of the 002.

What routes are the Tridents at Redditch used on? Do these routes require deckers? Just an idea but the 002 Centros could be debranded and transferred to Redditch in return for 6 of their deckers.

One further question, looking at the fleetlist, is 42565 the Citybus still used in service? On what route?

[Nathan4775]

30828 on 002 today every seat taken heading out of Bartley Green towards Merry Hill (including luggage rack!) with up to 10 standees, at least 50 people on board in total. Surely this reinforces the need for double deckers for the 002!

Diamond dont have any double deckers ?

But remeber its a Saturday so more people are going to want to get out and about before heading back to work Monday, as Monday - Friday loadings cannot be that high to require doubles ?

Read my post again Nathan, I didn't say they did ;)

And incorrect, standing loads aren't common but almost every 002 gets packed especially towards Merry Hill Mon-Fri as well.

Apologies your right you didnt say they had DD's  :) sorry

Around what time does it get packed and were about from, as Ive rode the 002 route from Weoley Castle - M'Hill and not known it to be full to the brim, known some of the return journeys leaving MerryH to be full

I live on the route, I generally see more 002s going towards Merry Hill full but it depends entirely on the time of day. In all honesty, any journey can get packed, and putting an MPD on there is asking for trouble. Then, you have all the schoolkids getting on Mon-Fri at the start/end of school...

There is no reason why the 002 cannot have deckers and I really think Rotala should look at sourcing some for a double deck conversion of the 002.

What routes are the Tridents at Redditch used on? Do these routes require deckers? Just an idea but the 002 Centros could be debranded and transferred to Redditch in return for 6 of their deckers.

One further question, looking at the fleetlist, is 42565 the Citybus still used in service? On what route?

Monday Im hopefully out in Merry Hill/Dudley/S'Bridge so will keep my eyes open on the loadings of the 002,

In that case then, I feel the 56 should use 1/2 doubles at Peak times only both AM & PM, as there loadings can be pretty packed around that time ? 

[PM]

30828 on 002 today every seat taken heading out of Bartley Green towards Merry Hill (including luggage rack!) with up to 10 standees, at least 50 people on board in total. Surely this reinforces the need for double deckers for the 002!

Diamond dont have any double deckers ?

But remeber its a Saturday so more people are going to want to get out and about before heading back to work Monday, as Monday - Friday loadings cannot be that high to require doubles ?

Read my post again Nathan, I didn't say they did ;)

And incorrect, standing loads aren't common but almost every 002 gets packed especially towards Merry Hill Mon-Fri as well.

Apologies your right you didnt say they had DD's  :) sorry

Around what time does it get packed and were about from, as Ive rode the 002 route from Weoley Castle - M'Hill and not known it to be full to the brim, known some of the return journeys leaving MerryH to be full

I live on the route, I generally see more 002s going towards Merry Hill full but it depends entirely on the time of day. In all honesty, any journey can get packed, and putting an MPD on there is asking for trouble. Then, you have all the schoolkids getting on Mon-Fri at the start/end of school...

There is no reason why the 002 cannot have deckers and I really think Rotala should look at sourcing some for a double deck conversion of the 002.

What routes are the Tridents at Redditch used on? Do these routes require deckers? Just an idea but the 002 Centros could be debranded and transferred to Redditch in return for 6 of their deckers.

One further question, looking at the fleetlist, is 42565 the Citybus still used in service? On what route?

I just don't see the 002 as needing any more capacity than it currently has. Ive never seen anyone left behind, like with NXWM, and deckers on there would be awful as they would be old and knackered as opposed to centros and people would rather see an increased frequency say 002Es between halesowen and merry hill than deckers causing vandalism. Plus, a lot of those who use the 002 are OAPs and they would hate double deckers

The tridents at redditch-5 of them now-are used on the matchborough circulars which need double deckers far far more than the 002 I can assure you. The citybuses are all withdrawn and Simon mentioned they had been sold to willenhall commericals-dont know if they have left the fleet yet though. Still saw one ex first trident and dart around when I visited redditch this week.
As Simon has mentioned though the first tridents are soon to go.

When the citybuses were operated by diamond, your best bet was the 143 though I did 3 full 58's on one in July... :)

[winston]

30828 on 002 today every seat taken heading out of Bartley Green towards Merry Hill (including luggage rack!) with up to 10 standees, at least 50 people on board in total. Surely this reinforces the need for double deckers for the 002!

The
Diamond dont have any double deckers ?

But remeber its a Saturday so more people are going to want to get out and about before heading back to work Monday, as Monday - Friday loadings cannot be that high to require doubles ?

Read my post again Nathan, I didn't say they did ;)

And incorrect, standing loads aren't common but almost every 002 gets packed especially towards Merry Hill Mon-Fri as well.

Apologies your right you didnt say they had DD's  :) sorry

Around what time does it get packed and were about from, as Ive rode the 002 route from Weoley Castle - M'Hill and not known it to be full to the brim, known some of the return journeys leaving MerryH to be full

I live on the route, I generally see more 002s going towards Merry Hill full but it depends entirely on the time of day. In all honesty, any journey can get packed, and putting an MPD on there is asking for trouble. Then, you have all the schoolkids getting on Mon-Fri at the start/end of school...

There is no reason why the 002 cannot have deckers and I really think Rotala should look at sourcing some for a double deck conversion of the 002.

What routes are the Tridents at Redditch used on? Do these routes require deckers? Just an idea but the 002 Centros could be debranded and transferred to Redditch in return for 6 of their deckers.

One further question, looking at the fleetlist, is 42565 the Citybus still used in service? On what route?

I just don't see the 002 as needing any more capacity than it currently has. Ive never seen anyone left behind, like with NXWM, and deckers on there would be awful as they would be old and knackered as opposed to centros and people would rather see an increased frequency say 002Es between halesowen and merry hill than deckers causing vandalism. Plus, a lot of those who use the 002 are OAPs and they would hate double deckers

The tridents at redditch-5 of them now-are used on the matchborough circulars which need double deckers far far more than the 002 I can assure you. The citybuses are all withdrawn and Simon mentioned they had been sold to willenhall commericals-dont know if they have left the fleet yet though. Still saw one ex first trident and dart around when I visited redditch this week.
As Simon has mentioned though the first tridents are soon to go.

When the citybuses were operated by diamond, your best bet was the 143 though I did 3 full 58's on one in July... :)

I think the current 002 should have it's frequency increased to every 12 mins/5 bph still with single deckers, hours of operation extended to suit Merry Hill opening hours & a Sunday daytime service added.

[PM]

30828 on 002 today every seat taken heading out of Bartley Green towards Merry Hill (including luggage rack!) with up to 10 standees, at least 50 people on board in total. Surely this reinforces the need for double deckers for the 002!

The
Diamond dont have any double deckers ?

But remeber its a Saturday so more people are going to want to get out and about before heading back to work Monday, as Monday - Friday loadings cannot be that high to require doubles ?

Read my post again Nathan, I didn't say they did ;)

And incorrect, standing loads aren't common but almost every 002 gets packed especially towards Merry Hill Mon-Fri as well.

Apologies your right you didnt say they had DD's  :) sorry

Around what time does it get packed and were about from, as Ive rode the 002 route from Weoley Castle - M'Hill and not known it to be full to the brim, known some of the return journeys leaving MerryH to be full

I live on the route, I generally see more 002s going towards Merry Hill full but it depends entirely on the time of day. In all honesty, any journey can get packed, and putting an MPD on there is asking for trouble. Then, you have all the schoolkids getting on Mon-Fri at the start/end of school...

There is no reason why the 002 cannot have deckers and I really think Rotala should look at sourcing some for a double deck conversion of the 002.

What routes are the Tridents at Redditch used on? Do these routes require deckers? Just an idea but the 002 Centros could be debranded and transferred to Redditch in return for 6 of their deckers.

One further question, looking at the fleetlist, is 42565 the Citybus still used in service? On what route?

I just don't see the 002 as needing any more capacity than it currently has. Ive never seen anyone left behind, like with NXWM, and deckers on there would be awful as they would be old and knackered as opposed to centros and people would rather see an increased frequency say 002Es between halesowen and merry hill than deckers causing vandalism. Plus, a lot of those who use the 002 are OAPs and they would hate double deckers

The tridents at redditch-5 of them now-are used on the matchborough circulars which need double deckers far far more than the 002 I can assure you. The citybuses are all withdrawn and Simon mentioned they had been sold to willenhall commericals-dont know if they have left the fleet yet though. Still saw one ex first trident and dart around when I visited redditch this week.
As Simon has mentioned though the first tridents are soon to go.

When the citybuses were operated by diamond, your best bet was the 143 though I did 3 full 58's on one in July... :)

I think the current 002 should have it's frequency increased to every 12 mins/5 bph still with single deckers, hours of operation extended to suit Merry Hill opening hours & a Sunday daytime service added.

Thats a sensible idea-sunday service every 30 minutes-then you could use just 4 buses though with the loss of some routes on a sunday, a sunday service on this and the 4 would keep a few drivers and buses busy

[winston]

P403MLA at its new home in service, still carrying Diamond fleetnames

http://www.flickr.com/photos/nicksbuscoach/9859298166/

[Trident 4609]

30941 at Showbus today

[Tony]

I was stood in Witton today with my camera facing one way waiting to take a picture of a Ring & Ride, when it got blocked by a white unregistered StreetLite that sneeked up behind me. Is this a Rotala one?

[Nathan4775]

has 20855 recived Diamond Logos now ?

also why is 30825 the only Centro all in black ?

[trident4370]

If anyone knows which Euro 3 MPD is on the 50 today, I'd be very grateful for an ID, filmed it but forgot to take the reg!

[PM]

has 20855 recived Diamond Logos now ?

also why is 30825 the only Centro all in black ?

Yep it has. And think there may be more than one centro that is unbranded with no logos. Not sure of the reason why though-guess its in preparation for DIAMOND logos to be applied