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Started by Ash, March 20, 2012, 11:36:06 PM

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Trident 4194

I don't mind 432 and the dafs, but I hate the longer darts, 855 was on 4 the other day. They need some more larger buses

Tony

Quote from: Winston on October 25, 2014, 01:53:18 PM
Quote from: 4747 on October 25, 2014, 01:00:22 PM
30832/30833 and 30855 should have as well

So if they're all going to be 301 branded & the value branded B7RLE 's could possibly move on to the 302?

If that's the case,  which route will lose its B7RLE allocation as a result of the 302 starting?

The branding is for the 301 and 302, photo of one will be on the main site soon!

winston

Quote from: Tony on October 25, 2014, 06:47:42 PM
Quote from: Winston on October 25, 2014, 01:53:18 PM
Quote from: 4747 on October 25, 2014, 01:00:22 PM
30832/30833 and 30855 should have as well

So if they're all going to be 301 branded & the value branded B7RLE 's could possibly move on to the 302?

If that's the case,  which route will lose its B7RLE allocation as a result of the 302 starting?

The branding is for the 301 and 302, photo of one will be on the main site soon!

Therefore another Diamond route will be loosing some/all of it's B7RLE then.....  ::)

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Quote from: Winston on October 25, 2014, 03:55:25 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 25, 2014, 03:43:04 PM
Let's look forward to darts on 4 again, 4 new b7rles and 808,811 and 816 and 30002 and a dart would be nice. The 002 tends to share these buses though.

I wouldn't look forward to that prospect, the larger Darts will be old and any newer Darts will be MPD's. Diamond haven't even got so many 39 seat Cadets to fall back on these days, as they've sold 6 during Sept and only 2 x B7RLE's 30002 & 30855 were moved in to Tividale as replacements, Tividale are therefore still -4 higher capacity buses down. There's a 57 plate ex Wessex B7RLE/Wright (30813) that has been parked up at Long Acre untouched for a number of months, that could have bolstered numbers at Tividale.

Plus if some of Tividale's remaining long darts have moved over to Kidderminster recently as was suggested on that thread that would leave even fewer full size buses to cover the core routes.

Tony

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Quote from: Tony on October 25, 2014, 06:47:42 PM
Quote from: Winston on October 25, 2014, 01:53:18 PM
Quote from: 4747 on October 25, 2014, 01:00:22 PM
30832/30833 and 30855 should have as well

So if they're all going to be 301 branded & the value branded B7RLE 's could possibly move on to the 302?

If that's the case,  which route will lose its B7RLE allocation as a result of the 302 starting?

The branding is for the 301 and 302, photo of one will be on the main site soon!

Here is the branding for the 301/302 on 30833. Never the best photos in Walsall bus station with all the reflection


PM

Certainly will be interesting to see if the other branded "value" eclipses will be modified with this branding or will keep it and if  the other eclipses at Tividale all gain this branding.

Hopefully they've put some branding in the interior as well as certainly on the Value eclipses it looks amazing!

winston

Quote from: DiamondDart on October 25, 2014, 07:01:03 PM
Quote from: Winston on October 25, 2014, 03:55:25 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 25, 2014, 03:43:04 PM
Let's look forward to darts on 4 again, 4 new b7rles and 808,811 and 816 and 30002 and a dart would be nice. The 002 tends to share these buses though.

I wouldn't look forward to that prospect, the larger Darts will be old and any newer Darts will be MPD's. Diamond haven't even got so many 39 seat Cadets to fall back on these days, as they've sold 6 during Sept and only 2 x B7RLE's 30002 & 30855 were moved in to Tividale as replacements, Tividale are therefore still -4 higher capacity buses down. There's a 57 plate ex Wessex B7RLE/Wright (30813) that has been parked up at Long Acre untouched for a number of months, that could have bolstered numbers at Tividale.

Plus if some of Tividale's remaining long darts have moved over to Kidderminster recently as was suggested on that thread that would leave even fewer full size buses to cover the core routes.

Exactly, further investment @ Diamond in full size size buses in long overdue. The average age of the Diamond fleet is well below that of Rotala Group.

the trainbasher

They've tweaked the stickers inside 30411 to mention the 302


All opinions and onions mentioned on here are mine and not those of any employer, current, past, present or future, or presented as fact, unless I prove it otherwise.

4747

Quote from: DiamondDart on October 25, 2014, 07:01:03 PM



Plus if some of Tividale's remaining long darts have moved over to Kidderminster recently as was suggested on that thread that would leave even fewer full size buses to cover the core routes.

30512 has gone to Kiddy last week
it's been a while....

winston

Quote from: 4747 on October 26, 2014, 10:01:42 AM
Quote from: DiamondDart on October 25, 2014, 07:01:03 PM
Plus if some of Tividale's remaining long darts have moved over to Kidderminster recently as was suggested on that thread that would leave even fewer full size buses to cover the core routes.

30512 has gone to Kiddy last week

Which also becomes KR's oldest bus & introduces a third livery to an allocation of 30 (Now 31 with 30512)

I'd have thought that moving 30437 V377SVV (Black Diamond Livery) would have been more appropriate, to join sister V-SVV vehicles already at KR & keep the two liveries.

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Quote from: Winston on October 26, 2014, 11:09:04 AM
Quote from: 4747 on October 26, 2014, 10:01:42 AM
Quote from: DiamondDart on October 25, 2014, 07:01:03 PM
Plus if some of Tividale's remaining long darts have moved over to Kidderminster recently as was suggested on that thread that would leave even fewer full size buses to cover the core routes.

30512 has gone to Kiddy last week

Which also becomes KR's oldest bus & introduces a third livery to an allocation of 30 (Now 31 with 30512)

I'd have thought that moving 30437 V377SVV (Black Diamond Livery) would have been more appropriate, to join sister V-SVV vehicles already at KR & keep the two liveries.

Plus 30202/3, 30516 when they enter service and MW52PZP if that was a permanent transfer. The allocation there really is growing...

PM

Quote from: the trainbasher on October 25, 2014, 07:30:55 PM
They've tweaked the stickers inside 30411 to mention the 302

@the trainbasher

Have they also added any branding on the sides like on 30833 or left them as they are?

You mention the interior branding being adapted to show the 302. Did you see if the branding on the back has also been changed or the sticker by the door on the nearside?

Thanks :)

the trainbasher

Quote from: DiamondDart on October 26, 2014, 05:52:22 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on October 25, 2014, 07:30:55 PM
They've tweaked the stickers inside 30411 to mention the 302

@the trainbasher

Have they also added any branding on the sides like on 30833 or left them as they are?

You mention the interior branding being adapted to show the 302. Did you see if the branding on the back has also been changed or the sticker by the door on the nearside?

Thanks :)

That had just pure Diamond Value branding without any additions on it. I only saw the one set of stickers inside that had the route list of what value tickets were purchased.


All opinions and onions mentioned on here are mine and not those of any employer, current, past, present or future, or presented as fact, unless I prove it otherwise.

PM

Quote from: the trainbasher on October 26, 2014, 05:55:16 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on October 26, 2014, 05:52:22 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on October 25, 2014, 07:30:55 PM
They've tweaked the stickers inside 30411 to mention the 302

@the trainbasher

Have they also added any branding on the sides like on 30833 or left them as they are?

You mention the interior branding being adapted to show the 302. Did you see if the branding on the back has also been changed or the sticker by the door on the nearside?

Thanks :)

That had just pure Diamond Value branding without any additions on it. I only saw the one set of stickers inside that had the route list of what value tickets were purchased.

Thanks for the info :)

It seems the 301 is entirely B7rle now-in contrast to when there were more cadets.

I also think that the "Value" branded eclipses are some of the smartest and nicest vehicles to travel on within the Diamond fleet.

winston

Quote from: DiamondDart on October 26, 2014, 05:49:39 PM
Quote from: Winston on October 26, 2014, 11:09:04 AM
Quote from: 4747 on October 26, 2014, 10:01:42 AM
Quote from: DiamondDart on October 25, 2014, 07:01:03 PM
Plus if some of Tividale's remaining long darts have moved over to Kidderminster recently as was suggested on that thread that would leave even fewer full size buses to cover the core routes.

30512 has gone to Kiddy last week

Which also becomes KR's oldest bus & introduces a third livery to an allocation of 30 (Now 31 with 30512)

I'd have thought that moving 30437 V377SVV (Black Diamond Livery) would have been more appropriate, to join sister V-SVV vehicles already at KR & keep the two liveries.

Plus 30202/3, 30516 when they enter service and MW52PZP if that was a permanent transfer. The allocation there really is growing...

30516 was included in the original 30 as its already allocated there, 30202/3 are expected to be replacing older MPD's so will have no impact on total allocation

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