Diamond Bus - Discussion

[2206]

Noticed Diamond are joining the £2 fare cap. Exclusions apply to some tendered services 17H, 142/A, 22, 25/600 (Erdington), 27/A, 45, 5/A, A15/A16, 17/A/S/57, 18, 25 (Dudley), 81.

And also of note X11 withdrawn from 7th May 2023, so if people want a trip all the way to Burton, not long left for this.

[ellspurs]

'Tis a bit weird that the TfWM tendered services aren't included. I understand corporate services not being included, but not the tendered ones.

[winston]

'Tis a bit weird that the TfWM tendered services aren't included. I understand corporate services not being included, but not the tendered ones.

Most on their TfWM tendered services are included in the far cap, it's the ones awarded from 1st Jan that aren't

[Steve3229vp]

Most on their TfWM tendered services are included in the far cap, it's the ones awareded from 1st Jan that aren't

Too confusing for passengers, they won't know what a tendered route is

[2206]

Too confusing for passengers, they won't know what a tendered route is

What is the reason for the January tenders being excluded @Simon Dunn?

The gov list is saying stagecoach January tenders are also excluded? These were definitely included before and stagecoach website is showing fares as £2?

[Stu]

Too confusing for passengers, they won't know what a tendered route is

The list of exempt services is shown on the Diamond website article.

[Simon Dunn]

What is the reason for the January tenders being excluded @Simon Dunn?

The gov list is saying stagecoach January tenders are also excluded? These were definitely included before and stagecoach website is showing fares as £2?

The DfT say that any services not operated before 01/10/23 are excluded from receiving funding.

[Rachvince53]

The DfT say that any services not operated before 01/10/23 are excluded from receiving funding.

I think you meant 10th January 2023.

[winston]

I think you meant 10th January 2023.

Doubt it, those tendered services would have been included as they start 1/1/23.
I suspect the date should be 01/10/22

[hlliwmai]

Has the March fleet update been published yet? 

[D10]

The £2 max fare wasn't applying on the 192 either. I was charged £2.65 for a Kidderminster to Hagley single today, and some friends of mine also travelled today and wanted returns from Kidder to Halesowen, they were told to buy a £7.40 Network ticket as the best option.

[Kevin_Brum12]

The list, interestingly, includes the 45 as an excluded service as it is "tendered".  This has been listed for withdrawal from the 13th April 2023 as it is not commercial.  

Diamond started operating it from the 1st January 2023, before the DfT cut off of the 10th.

That infers that Diamond has been awarded a tender to operate the service, although there is no update on either the TfWM website or anywhere else on the Diamond website to say so... 

[2206]

The list, interestingly, includes the 45 as an excluded service as it is "tendered".  This has been listed for withdrawal from the 13th April 2023 as it is not commercial. 

Diamond started operating it from the 1st January 2023, before the DfT cut off of the 10th.

That infers that Diamond has been awarded a tender to operate the service, although there is no update on either the TfWM website or anywhere else on the Diamond website to say so...

As winston said that dft cut off date was probably meant to be 01/10/2022. As most of the diamond services listed started on the 01/01/23.

[Simon Dunn]

Doubt it, those tendered services would have been included as they start 1/1/23.
I suspect the date should be 01/10/22

Sorry - the correct date is 01/10/22.


Simon

[Lukeee]

How would this work with the 96 as the daytime journeys were operated before the cut off point but the evening journeys aren't.