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Title: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: 2900 on October 28, 2023, 10:06:53 AM
From various meetings at WB we have been informed  the knock down of the bus station starts early Jan, 87 will terminate Ednam st, layovers on priory or Broadway to be used. Toilets restroom to be provided as well.
should be all fun and games then.
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: the trainbasher on October 29, 2023, 06:12:21 AM
QuoteFrom various meetings at WB we have been informed  the knock down of the bus station starts early Jan, 87 will terminate Ednam st, layovers on priory or Broadway to be used. Toilets restroom to be provided as well.
should be all fun and games then.
I had heard Tower Street was also going to be used (or was at one stage).

At least the college kids won't have far to get their buses (The Broadway is where Dudley College is, so it'll be fun for buses laying over!)
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: Roy on October 29, 2023, 10:48:28 AM
The WMCA website says that "Demolition of the 1986 built bus station means bus stops will be temporarily relocated to Tower Street and Ednam Road."  The webpage is at https://www.wmca.org.uk/news/work-on-24-million-dudley-interchange-to-begin-in-new-year/#:~:text=Dudley%20Bus%20Station%20will%20be,between%20bus%20and%20Metro%20services.
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: Westy on October 29, 2023, 02:50:27 PM
This is a drive in & reverse out type of bus station isn't it?

First one in the WM county I think?
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: Rachvince53 on October 29, 2023, 04:39:41 PM
I think so. It replaced the previous bus station which ran up the hill level with Birmingham Street at 90° to the present one. The former car park to the south was part of the former bus station site and was earmarked for a development which never happened. 
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: danny on November 25, 2023, 10:18:43 PM
I know the idea is to demolish the bus station in January however I read that Dudley council had imposed traffic parking restrictions from the 27th November 23, is this to prep for the closure or is this the date the Current Dudley Bus station will be closing?? 
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: the trainbasher on November 26, 2023, 10:55:34 AM
QuoteI know the idea is to demolish the bus station in January however I read that Dudley council had imposed traffic parking restrictions from the 27th November 23, is this to prep for the closure or is this the date the Current Dudley Bus station will be closing??
To prep for the closure as temporary stands need to be built.
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: Celestial Toymaker on November 26, 2023, 06:37:31 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on November 26, 2023, 10:55:34 AMTo prep for the closure as temporary stands need to be built.
When will it be finally closed, im trying to get out there one last time before it goes, but its not easy at this time of year
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: the trainbasher on November 26, 2023, 07:02:19 PM
QuoteWhen will it be finally closed, im trying to get out there one last time before it goes, but its not easy at this time of year
Early next year - https://www.wmca.org.uk/news/work-on-24-million-dudley-interchange-to-begin-in-new-year/
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: Stu on November 26, 2023, 07:03:11 PM
Quote from: Celestial Toymaker on November 26, 2023, 06:37:31 PMWhen will it be finally closed, im trying to get out there one last time before it goes, but its not easy at this time of year

There's not been anything officially announced yet, but I expect it won't be until sometime in January next year.

Details of stop changes should be published in advance by TfWM on their website.
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: Celestial Toymaker on November 28, 2023, 03:01:06 PM
Quote from: Stu on November 26, 2023, 07:03:11 PMThere's not been anything officially announced yet, but I expect it won't be until sometime in January next year.

Details of stop changes should be published in advance by TfWM on their website.
Thank you for that, not been out to DY for many years, this would be a farewell trip, few pics to remember the place, sadly i didnt get enough of WN and i didnt know about WA or WB so never got those either, im trying to create a record of West Midlands buses before its too late.
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: Westy on November 28, 2023, 03:29:40 PM
Is Dudley the last of that particular late 80's vintage still in use?

Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: Roy on December 09, 2023, 10:23:21 PM
Notices at all stands at Dudley Bus Station state that it is closing on 14 January.  Each notice has a map showing where the bus routes at that stand will depart from once the station closes.
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: danny on December 10, 2023, 12:07:27 AM
Do we know how long the new bus station is scheduled to take to complete?? 
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: Stu on December 19, 2023, 06:31:40 PM
Quote from: danny on December 10, 2023, 12:07:27 AMDo we know how long the new bus station is scheduled to take to complete??
18 months it is reckoned. Though going by recent form on these kinds of projects, will probably end up being 2-3 years and millions of pounds over budget.
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: Stu on December 19, 2023, 06:34:54 PM
Was a bit surprised to see a notice up informing passengers about the forthcoming closure of Dudley bus station, inside one of Yardley Wood's vehicles!

Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: ellspurs on December 19, 2023, 06:39:13 PM
2-3 years is being very optimistic!
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: mesub on December 19, 2023, 08:54:29 PM
Quote from: Stu on December 19, 2023, 06:34:54 PMWas a bit surprised to see a notice up informing passengers about the forthcoming closure of Dudley bus station, inside one of Yardley Wood's vehicles!



They're also in BC vehicles!
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: SuperSonic07 on December 19, 2023, 09:32:35 PM
Quote from: mesub on December 19, 2023, 08:54:29 PMThey're also in BC vehicles!
I saw one in a PB vehicle the other day
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: Westy on December 19, 2023, 10:49:14 PM
And Walsall!
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: Rachvince53 on December 20, 2023, 10:40:36 AM
And need repairs/modifications almost immediately! 
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: BMJ1970 on January 06, 2024, 08:30:31 PM
The information on TFWM is rubbish, it should be prominent on the buses section of the website. And then after hunting for it, all they provide Is a Web link a about the project and a map of the stops, but no details of what buses stop where?  The only decent info is on the NX site.  
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: Stu on January 07, 2024, 09:47:18 AM
Quote from: BMJ1970 on January 06, 2024, 08:30:31 PMThe information on TFWM is rubbish, it should be prominent on the buses section of the website. And then after hunting for it, all they provide Is a Web link a about the project and a map of the stops, but no details of what buses stop where?  The only decent info is on the NX site. 

https://wmbu.org.uk/2023/12/bus-stop-changes-in-dudley-from-14th-january-2024
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: karl724223 on January 12, 2024, 09:27:40 PM
Last day tomorrow 
Just a reminder 
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: karl724223 on January 13, 2024, 01:53:11 PM
Well that's me last service bus out of Dudley after nearly 34 years 
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: karl724223 on January 13, 2024, 01:55:39 PM
Shaplifters have complained about where the new stops are they are complaining they have further to run to get the buses to get away 

RSPCA been up Dudley concerned about where the rots are going to live after being evicted 
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: Stu on January 13, 2024, 05:08:16 PM
I took a trip to Dudley today to pay my last respects to the bus station.

I know I haven't been there for a few years now, but my, what a dump. I actually felt like I'd travelled back in time.

It was all the same as I remember from before, I even remembered where I needed to get buses back to Birmingham from. Even most of the signage was still in the old Centro/Network West Midlands style.

Only thing different I could see were the real-time displays at each stand, but even then the one at the 126 stop was wrong, stuck at 14:46 showing a 126 due in 3mins, although it was just past 3pm.

On arrival at the bus station, I was greeted by the sight of a police car and several officers blocking a 74, there were passengers on board and there appeared to be two officers on the bus talking to a man sat on the rear seats.

Went for a walk around the town centre while I was there, wasn't surprised to see cars parked on the tram tracks right next to the mosque.  :undecided:

It's a real shame as I used to enjoy going into Dudley when I was younger, looks more like a warzone than a 'regeneration project'.

Travelled into Dudley hoping to feel a bit nostalgic, left there feeling glad that bus station is being demolished.


Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: Rachvince53 on January 13, 2024, 06:30:35 PM
Sadly the bus station has been neglected for years, mirroring much of the surrounding town. While the market continues,  most of the high street names (eg M&S) have long since moved to Merry Hill.  
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: Mayfield on January 13, 2024, 07:29:01 PM
Sounds like they need to widen the area of demolition 
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: Stu on January 13, 2024, 07:55:33 PM
Quote from: karl724223 on January 13, 2024, 01:55:39 PMRSPCA been up Dudley concerned about where the rots are going to live after being evicted
What about the poor pigeons? :laugh:

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Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: Westy on January 13, 2024, 10:30:25 PM
Quote from: Stu on January 13, 2024, 05:08:16 PMI took a trip to Dudley today to pay my last respects to the bus station.

I know I haven't been there for a few years now, but my, what a dump. I actually felt like I'd travelled back in time.

It was all the same as I remember from before, I even remembered where I needed to get buses back to Birmingham from. Even most of the signage was still in the old Centro/Network West Midlands style.

Only thing different I could see were the real-time displays at each stand, but even then the one at the 126 stop was wrong, stuck at 14:46 showing a 126 due in 3mins, although it was just past 3pm.

On arrival at the bus station, I was greeted by the sight of a police car and several officers blocking a 74, there were passengers on board and there appeared to be two officers on the bus talking to a man sat on the rear seats.

Went for a walk around the town centre while I was there, wasn't surprised to see cars parked on the tram tracks right next to the mosque.  :undecided:

It's a real shame as I used to enjoy going into Dudley when I was younger, looks more like a warzone than a 'regeneration project'.

Travelled into Dudley hoping to feel a bit nostalgic, left there feeling glad that bus station is being demolished.



I went last Saturday.

Thinking back, it was so modern at the time, along with the Wolves one that opened around the same time, compared with the old one & the circa 1975 Walsall one still in use then.

(Don't remember the pre 1986 Wolves one, as we always used the 560 from Bloxwich, which terminated at Wulfruna Street!)
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: Westy on January 13, 2024, 11:39:01 PM
Another blog I follow, this time Phil Tonks.

Dudley's Buzz Station | OnThisBus (wordpress.com) (https://onthisbus.wordpress.com/2024/01/13/dudleys-buzz-station/)
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: Jack6101 on January 15, 2024, 09:41:10 AM
https://www.expressandstar.com/news/local-hubs/dudley/2024/01/15/vintage-buses-have-one-last-ride-around-dudley-bus-station-ahead-of-its-demolition/
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: karl724223 on January 15, 2024, 11:29:18 AM
Quote from: Jack6101 on January 15, 2024, 09:41:10 AMhttps://www.expressandstar.com/news/local-hubs/dudley/2024/01/15/vintage-buses-have-one-last-ride-around-dudley-bus-station-ahead-of-its-demolition/
Before veg start moaning they couldn't go it was a private event organised by tfwm with the contractors who are now in charge of the land/building site 
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: Jack on January 15, 2024, 04:15:38 PM
The new Dudley stops are a joke, perfect TfWM planning. Too many services serving 1 stop, pavements nowhere wide enough. Loads of confused and frustrated people, hardly any inspectors as per. Whos bright idea was it to shove all the Wolverhampton bound services together and also the 74/87?

Shambles and it's only the first day...
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: karl724223 on January 15, 2024, 05:12:39 PM
Quote from: Jack on January 15, 2024, 04:15:38 PMThe new Dudley stops are a joke, perfect TfWM planning. Too many services serving 1 stop, pavements nowhere wide enough. Loads of confused and frustrated people, hardly any inspectors as per. Whos bright idea was it to shove all the Wolverhampton bound services together and also the 74/87?

Shambles and it's only the first day...
Ok where would you put everything then 
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: Jack on January 15, 2024, 05:43:52 PM
Quote from: karl724223 on January 15, 2024, 05:12:39 PMOk where would you put everything then
Wouldn't shove all the busy services for one shelter, when there's an empty one not in use. Nice to see they've bothered to give the 6 its own shelter but not thought about giving the 74 and 87 there own one.
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: Tony on January 15, 2024, 05:54:20 PM
Quote from: Jack on January 15, 2024, 05:43:52 PMWouldn't shove all the busy services for one shelter, when there's an empty one not in use. Nice to see they've bothered to give the 6 its own shelter but not thought about giving the 74 and 87 there own one.
Standard practise for TfWM on any city centre/town centre stop is it can have a departure every 5 minutes.

74 - every 10 minutes
87 - every 10 minutes

so fits.

6 every 9 minutes, so no other service can fit in the rules.
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: don on January 15, 2024, 06:32:28 PM
Quote from: karl724223 on January 15, 2024, 11:29:18 AMBefore veg start moaning they couldn't go it was a private event organised by tfwm with the contractors who are now in charge of the land/building site
Wasn't the Bishop available for this after all? 😀

Love the pictures in the newspaper and plenty of veg got in them @karl724223!!

Nice to see a D9 in the pics 👍

It's worth reflecting that many of the people involved with the museums and preserved buses here would have been referred to as 'veg' in yesteryear or its equivalent of the time, in the way some people are now - in my view it's a pity it was felt necessary to keep this event private - let's hope we don't get any repetition of 'private' heritage events - operating in private as well as public areas - I think the heritage movement need all the help they can get rather than operating as some sort of exclusive elite!!
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: karl724223 on January 15, 2024, 09:32:37 PM
Lik
Quote from: don on January 15, 2024, 06:32:28 PMWasn't the Bishop available for this after all? 😀

Love the pictures in the newspaper and plenty of veg got in them @karl724223!!

Nice to see a D9 in the pics 👍

It's worth reflecting that many of the people involved with the museums and preserved buses here would have been referred to as 'veg' in yesteryear or its equivalent of the time, in the way some people are now - in my view it's a pity it was felt necessary to keep this event private - let's hope we don't get any repetition of 'private' heritage events - operating in private as well as public areas - I think the heritage movement need all the help they can get rather than operating as some sort of exclusive elite!!
Like I said organised by tfwm  with contractors having a big say on who was on there land/building site 
Doubt museums will hold private events as they need the money to survive and pay for costly restorations and keep buses on the road in good condition
Oh and yes my son is a driver at pn
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: don on January 15, 2024, 09:44:15 PM
Quote from: karl724223 on January 15, 2024, 09:32:37 PMLikLike I said organised by tfwm  with contractors having a big say on who was on there land/building site
Doubt museums will hold private events as they need the money to survive and pay for costly restorations and keep buses on the road in good condition
Oh and yes my son is a driver at pn
I guess it was down to TfWM etc, but it still seems a pity to make it 'exclusive' to the extent of the apparent secrecy in advance. 
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: TT90 on January 15, 2024, 09:58:37 PM
5 Services are using DY4 in Tower Street. 8/X8, 2, 2A, 81 and 82. Yet the 1 has it's own stop on DY5  :huh: ? 
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: Jack on January 15, 2024, 10:08:08 PM
Quote from: TT90 on January 15, 2024, 09:58:37 PM5 Services are using DY4 in Tower Street. 8/X8, 2, 2A, 81 and 82. Yet the 1 has it's own stop on DY5  :huh: ?
Makes so much sense doesn't it.
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: karl724223 on January 16, 2024, 07:35:50 AM
Quote from: don on January 15, 2024, 09:44:15 PMI guess it was down to TfWM etc, but it still seems a pity to make it 'exclusive' to the extent of the apparent secrecy in advance.
So whinge at tfwm and the contractors tgen 
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: j789 on January 16, 2024, 07:52:05 AM
I saw Metro 2789 coming back along the A491 in Amblecote, maybe on the way back to Pensnett.
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: don on January 16, 2024, 08:58:18 AM
Quote from: karl724223 on January 16, 2024, 07:35:50 AMSo whinge at tfwm and the contractors tgen
Indeed - it will be interesting to see their response. But did they insist on everyone involved keeping it secret (or to quote you - keeping advance info 'on a need to know basis')? 
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: Stu on January 16, 2024, 09:18:02 AM
Quote from: don on January 16, 2024, 08:58:18 AMIndeed - it will be interesting to see their response. But did they insist on everyone involved keeping it secret (or to quote you - keeping advance info 'on a need to know basis')?
I guess the answer is yes, because you can probably guess what would have happened...

...you'd have had loads of people turning up trying to get into a closed bus station, and you'd have ended up with some cretins breaking in and 'trespassing' on what is now private property.
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: karl724223 on January 16, 2024, 09:28:54 AM
Quote from: Stu on January 16, 2024, 09:18:02 AMI guess the answer is yes, because you can probably guess what would have happened...

...you'd have had loads of people turning up trying to get into a closed bus station, and you'd have ended up with some cretins breaking in and 'trespassing' on what is now private property.

Take wolves open day a ex member of this forum was throwed off site for starting bus engines up 
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: BBS on January 16, 2024, 09:49:16 AM
QuoteWouldn't shove all the busy services for one shelter, when there's an empty one not in use. Nice to see they've bothered to give the 6 its own shelter but not thought about giving the 74 and 87 there own one.
I believe the unserved one is DY7, would be a perfect stop for the 74 
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: Stu on January 16, 2024, 11:40:16 AM
Quote from: BBS on January 16, 2024, 09:49:16 AMI believe the unserved one is DY7, would be a perfect stop for the 74
I would assume that stop is reserved for unloading only.
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: Jack on January 16, 2024, 02:40:10 PM
Quote from: Stu on January 16, 2024, 11:40:16 AMI would assume that stop is reserved for unloading only.
Does it require a shelter for Unload Only? Waste of money a Pole Stop would have made sense. To have an empty unused shelter sitting there when there's about 3/4 in the surrounding area overflowing makes no sense.
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: karl724223 on January 16, 2024, 03:21:11 PM
Quote from: Jack on January 16, 2024, 02:40:10 PMDoes it require a shelter for Unload Only? Waste of money a Pole Stop would have made sense. To have an empty unused shelter sitting there when there's about 3/4 in the surrounding area overflowing makes no sense.
Have you actually been down there watching buses or just moaning from looking at a piece of paper 
Only it's day three of operation and I've not heard of any problems yet  just you on here 
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: Jack on January 16, 2024, 03:31:40 PM
Quote from: karl724223 on January 16, 2024, 03:21:11 PMHave you actually been down there watching buses or just moaning from looking at a piece of paper
Only it's day three of operation and I've not heard of any problems yet  just you on here
Yes I was there myself watching, I wasn't the only one who thought the same either. Waiting for a 87 that ended up arriving half an hour late. 

Really? Yesterday evening was a nightmare.
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: Stu on January 16, 2024, 03:42:20 PM
Some photos from Sunday's event can be found here:
https://www.busandcoachbuyer.com/in-pictures-dudley-bus-stations-last-hurrah/
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: 2900 on January 17, 2024, 05:33:38 PM
Plenty of NXWB drivers complaining about Diamond drivers using the unloading stop for relief swaps plus they say its a shit show, i,m back in tomorrow no doubt it'll be great fun. 
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: Justin Tyme on January 17, 2024, 10:44:55 PM
More of a comment about Dudley town centre than the bus stands.

I travelled on a 126 to Dudley on Sunday, arriving just before 12 noon.  There was alot of activity around the new stands but things seemed to be working OK, especially considering it was the first day.

What I found sad was that after Burnt Tree (Tesco), I was the only passenger on the bus.  I know of course that Merry Hill sucked the life out of Dudley town centre, but I hope this isn't typical.  Is Dudley normally worth visiting on a Sunday?
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: 2900 on January 18, 2024, 02:36:20 PM
Quote from: Justin Tyme on January 17, 2024, 10:44:55 PMMore of a comment about Dudley town centre than the bus stands.

I travelled on a 126 to Dudley on Sunday, arriving just before 12 noon.  There was alot of activity around the new stands but things seemed to be working OK, especially considering it was the first day.

What I found sad was that after Burnt Tree (Tesco), I was the only passenger on the bus.  I know of course that Merry Hill sucked the life out of Dudley town centre, but I hope this isn't typical.  Is Dudley normally worth visiting on a Sunday?
Dudley town has been dying for years, My sister ran a shop there for years when Argos closed that was the last straw, the footfall tailed off dramatically at that end of Dudley 
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: Jack on January 19, 2024, 02:17:28 PM
Any idea why there's an NX E200 parked up in Dudley Bus Station? 
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: 2900 on January 20, 2024, 02:53:48 PM
Quote from: Jack on January 19, 2024, 02:17:28 PMAny idea why there's an NX E200 parked up in Dudley Bus Station?
probably pennsnett staff bus
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: karl724223 on January 20, 2024, 05:06:29 PM
Quote from: 2900 on January 20, 2024, 02:53:48 PMprobably pennsnett staff bus
No 
I know why 😂😁
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: 2900 on January 23, 2024, 04:30:09 PM
Quote from: Jack on January 19, 2024, 02:17:28 PMAny idea why there's an NX E200 parked up in Dudley Bus Station?
drivers are allowed to take buses into the bus station to use the toilet etc
Title: Re: Dudley Bus Station
Post by: karl724223 on January 23, 2024, 04:31:08 PM
Quote from: 2900 on January 23, 2024, 04:30:09 PMdrivers are allowed to take buses into the bus station to use the toilet etc
Apparently it's the old travel shop now