For anyone it matters too, the X50 has a demonstrator Enviro 400H on i for trials by Johnsons. This should be here for today and tomorrow.
I've seen that, I wondered what company it was from,
Personally think Jhonsons should buy some of these
Quote from: NathanJC on May 05, 2012, 10:59:34 AM
I've seen that, I wondered what company it was from,
Personally think Jhonsons should buy some of these
Why? Hybrids save fuel on stop-start routes...
Quote from: nx4737 on May 14, 2012, 03:50:49 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on May 05, 2012, 10:59:34 AM
I've seen that, I wondered what company it was from,
Personally think Jhonsons should buy some of these
Why? Hybrids save fuel on stop-start routes...
Good news then, Nathan. Johnsons have obtained a Green Bus Fund grant for up to 8 hybrids, including some double deckers, for use in Birmingham and Stratford. It's the second news item here - http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news.php?pageNum_News=1 (http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news.php?pageNum_News=1), and also here - http://www.busandcoach.com/newspage.aspx?id=6591&categoryid=0 (http://www.busandcoach.com/newspage.aspx?id=6591&categoryid=0).
Unless something unexpected happens, surely the double decks will be for the X20?
Don't hybrids work better on stop start routes, the x20 is quite a none stop route. Great news though guessing itil be enviro 400h's
Quote from: Justin Tyme on May 14, 2012, 07:45:29 PM
Quote from: nx4737 on May 14, 2012, 03:50:49 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on May 05, 2012, 10:59:34 AM
I've seen that, I wondered what company it was from,
Personally think Jhonsons should buy some of these
Why? Hybrids save fuel on stop-start routes...
Good news then, Nathan. Johnsons have obtained a Green Bus Fund grant for up to 8 hybrids, including some double deckers, for use in Birmingham and Stratford. It's the second news item here - http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news.php?pageNum_News=1 (http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news.php?pageNum_News=1), and also here - http://www.busandcoach.com/newspage.aspx?id=6591&categoryid=0 (http://www.busandcoach.com/newspage.aspx?id=6591&categoryid=0).
Unless something unexpected happens, surely the double decks will be for the X20?
Hopefully a mix of Volvo B5HL's & Envrio400H
Its very unlikely they would split such a small order.
The article states that Johnson's will be buying only 4 double-deck hybrids, so it is more likely all four will be of one type.
Quote from: jc on May 16, 2012, 07:13:15 PM
Its very unlikely they would split such a small order.
Hopefully it will be VolvoB5HL's
You can hope all you like, as Johnsons recently had an ADL Enviro 400H on loan, its more likely this type they will purchase.
Quote from: Stu on May 17, 2012, 08:01:36 PM
You can hope all you like, as Johnsons recently had an ADL Enviro 400H on loan, its more likely this type they will purchase.
When you put it like this then ::) ::) & I prefer B5HL's to enviro400H I dont know why
I like the b5hl they look quite quirky. And like the fact you hear the engine kick in.
I was down in London, and there seemed to be loads of Gemini 2 hybrids down there. Couldn't work out if they were B5LHs or the bigger B9TLs. Caught them on the 73 (Victoria - Stoke Newington) and 149 (London Bridge - Edmondton Green), and saw them on the 476 (Northumberland Avenue - Euston Station), all operated by Arriva.
Quote from: Stu on May 21, 2012, 08:14:31 PM
I was down in London, and there seemed to be loads of Gemini 2 hybrids down there. Couldn't work out if they were B5LHs or the bigger B9TLs. Caught them on the 73 (Victoria - Stoke Newington) and 149 (London Bridge - Edmondton Green), and saw them on the 476 (Northumberland Avenue - Euston Station), all operated by Arriva.
B9TL are not hybrids so are easy to tell the difference
Quote from: Tony on May 21, 2012, 08:31:43 PM
Quote from: Stu on May 21, 2012, 08:14:31 PM
I was down in London, and there seemed to be loads of Gemini 2 hybrids down there. Couldn't work out if they were B5LHs or the bigger B9TLs. Caught them on the 73 (Victoria - Stoke Newington) and 149 (London Bridge - Edmondton Green), and saw them on the 476 (Northumberland Avenue - Euston Station), all operated by Arriva.
B9TL are not hybrids so are easy to tell the difference
Thanks, I've only been on one B5LH up here, they just seemed bigger down in London.
Quote from: Stu on May 22, 2012, 07:19:02 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 21, 2012, 08:31:43 PM
Quote from: Stu on May 21, 2012, 08:14:31 PM
I was down in London, and there seemed to be loads of Gemini 2 hybrids down there. Couldn't work out if they were B5LHs or the bigger B9TLs. Caught them on the 73 (Victoria - Stoke Newington) and 149 (London Bridge - Edmondton Green), and saw them on the 476 (Northumberland Avenue - Euston Station), all operated by Arriva.
B9TL are not hybrids so are easy to tell the difference
Thanks, I've only been on one B5LH up here, they just seemed bigger down in London.
I think the B5LH only comes in one size, like the examples we have here.
London have a load of different Hybrid's now. I go every year and was shocked this year (february) at how few trident alx400's there are compared to the year before!
Quote from: BU07 LGO on May 31, 2012, 06:22:02 PM
London have a load of different Hybrid's now. I go every year and was shocked this year (february) at how few trident alx400's there are compared to the year before!
When some routes get their contract renewed, they have to purchase new buses (in most cases).
Think of all the ex London darts we have in the West Midlands. No doubt we'll be getting loads of ex London Tridents to companies like Thandi and all those second rate independants. They'll also beat the emission zone in Birmingham, as they would be LEZ compliant.
I have to say personally i think johnsons are one of the best oporators within the west midlands, modern buses, clean, friendly drivers and plesant routes, just wondered what you lovely people thought, weather they have any imidiate plans for the future in terms of routes within the west midlands or new buses/coaches!
Never caught any of their buses, though I am tempted to hop on the X20 one day and take a trip to Stratford-On-Avon, any idea how much a return from Hall Green/Shirley might cost, anyone?
Well from birmingham a returns 4.20 soo i wont be no more than that they, they give change lol
Agree, Johnsons are a class operator.
It's hard to believe that a few years ago they ran no local bus services only coaches and schools, but now the route network covers an area from Birmingham, then round to Bromsgrove, Moreton in Marsh, Banbury and Coventry.
In terms of future expansion, they seem to stick to Tenders and so if First pull out of Redditch with no sale , then there may be routes that have to go out to Tender by Worcs CC, and most Oxon tenders in Banbury are due for renewal next year.
I completely agree with this. Ventured into Stratford under my own steam the other week and used their Park and Ride service. The Optare Versa diesel-electric hybrids were really comfortable and the drivers were very friendly and helpful, even to the extent of recommending a cheaper ticket for us when we got on. SUPERB!
Have to agree also
Lost property I lost on X20
Driver decides to drive back down from Henley in order to give to me during his 45 min break :D
Quality class service
It just goes to show really that when it comes to service their team go up and beyond the call of duty, would love to work for them, and would love it even more if they came more prominant into the midlands, i wouldnt mind paying extra fair because of the level of service they offer
They also operate tendered 69 Shirley - Kings Heath, X7 Solihull - Maypole - Wythal, X50 Birmingham - Maypole - Redditch and have the contract for the University of Birmingham Campus shuttles. I agree more would be great.
QuoteX7 Solihull - Maypole - Wythal
Was the S7 last time I checked!
There also long term holders of the C1 Campus Shuttle under contract from NEW College in Redditch and Bromsgrove, which takes 4 buses or coaches at its busiest period.
Quote from: vinh1000 on August 29, 2012, 12:37:21 AM
Have to agree also
Lost property I lost on X20
Driver decides to drive back down from Henley in order to give to me during his 45 min break :D
Quality class service
I would keep quiet about aspects of kindness like this to avoid getting drivers into trouble. A break is a legal requirement that drivers must take during the course of a day / duty and are not for them to spend driving around, however well meaning and well intentioned.
Quote from: fleetline6477 on August 30, 2012, 10:25:22 PM
Quote from: vinh1000 on August 29, 2012, 12:37:21 AM
Have to agree also
Lost property I lost on X20
Driver decides to drive back down from Henley in order to give to me during his 45 min break :D
Quality class service
I would keep quiet about aspects of kindness like this to avoid getting drivers into trouble. A break is a legal requirement that drivers must take during the course of a day / duty and are not for them to spend driving around, however well meaning and well intentioned.
He had only done 2 hours on the plot and they all go back to depot for dropbacks or breaks - he had come off by the time the bus came back around and the depots in Henley so near enough
X50 not running.
Johnsons have 3 New OmniLinks, wonder what route they are for!
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news-detail.php?NewsID=106
Quote from: John on April 15, 2013, 03:43:08 PM
Johnsons have 3 New OmniLinks, wonder what route they are for!
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news-detail.php?NewsID=106
Its says 2 brand new Scania buses if you click on the news tab in the headlines
Quote from: Winston on April 15, 2013, 03:50:29 PM
Its says 2 brand new Scania buses if you click on the news tab in the headlines
So it does!! sorry
Quote from: John on April 15, 2013, 03:57:34 PM
Quote from: Winston on April 15, 2013, 03:50:29 PM
Its says 2 brand new Scania buses if you click on the news tab in the headlines
So it does!! sorry
Not a problem!
Park and Ride, er X50 maybe not sure have to wait and see.
Sad to advise that one of the brand new Scania Buses in the Johnsons fleet has been badly damaged. With less than 2000 miles on the clock the driver managed to rip most of the near side of the vehicle out as he left the yard - It really looks a mess!
Assuming this will be repaired
Most certainly but no decision on who will do it has been made yet. I believe its too big a job to be done in-house. I gather it was a new driver who totally misjudged the turning curve. He caught the iron gates but kept going. The gates came off & besides smashing windows they opened up around half of the panelling below the windows just like a can-opener... Heart-breaking to see on such a new vehicle.
I wondered why I'd only seen the one in service, Was looking forward to these 2 aswell :( Nevermind! On that subject, YT13 HKZ Made it onto the Park and Ride on Monday, and was on the X20 today so presumably just acting as a spare atm?
Quote from: trident4370 on May 08, 2013, 10:14:03 PM
I wondered why I'd only seen the one in service, Was looking forward to these 2 aswell :( Nevermind! On that subject, YT13 HKZ Made it onto the Park and Ride on Monday, and was on the X20 today so presumably just acting as a spare atm?
One was on the S7 Tuesday and one day last week
HKY on the X50 Saturday so either it was repaired superfast, or the story was exagerated!
Quote from: trident4370 on May 13, 2013, 11:36:27 PM
HKY on the X50 Saturday so either it was repaired superfast, or the story was exagerated!
At least it is out in service finally anyhow
HKZ is the vehicle with the body damage. Some in-house body repairs were done to get it semi-presentable but the near side rear still shows heavy scar damage. I don't think I exaggerated too much as at the time is looked a lot worse than it does now..... But it is needed for service as much as possible.
The new 63 seater Scania Omniexpress has quickly been christened 'The Beast'
Quote from: barry on May 14, 2013, 10:33:32 PM
HKZ is the vehicle with the body damage. Some in-house body repairs were done to get it semi-presentable but the near side rear still shows heavy scar damage. I don't think I exaggerated too much as at the time is looked a lot worse than it does now..... But it is needed for service as much as possible.
The new 63 seater Scania Omniexpress has quickly been christened 'The Beast'
Here it is still with the body damage
http://wmbusphotos.com/Johnsons/YT13HKZ.html
They must be about the only company still buying buses with scania's own polish bodywork-there were only 3 last year!! Wonder if ppl have stopped buying it due to the quality issue
Slighty off topic but whats the difference between the Omnilink and the Omnicity?
I like the strapline "serving Towns and Villages in Warwickshire".
http://www.wmbusphotos.com/Johnsons/YT13HKZ.html (http://www.wmbusphotos.com/Johnsons/YT13HKZ.html)
But I think they are being too modest, seeing as I can think of 4 other counties they serve. But, I guess that "serving Towns and Villages in Warwickshire, Worcestershire, West Midlands, Gloucestershire and Oxfordshire" wouldn't fit! ;)
Quote from: Lukeee on May 21, 2013, 10:24:29 PM
Slighty off topic but whats the difference between the Omnilink and the Omnicity?
The Omnilink has a longitudinal mounted engine. The Omnicity has a transverse mounted engine. Therefore they have slightly different interior layouts at the rear. Other than that, I don't believe there is any other difference but I'll leave it open for anybody else to add their own info.
Will the 2 scania's settle down on one or two
services or just go on any service as it's roaming
at present
I agree that Johnson's is a fantastic company.
First rate drivers, vehicles, livery, punctuality ... pretty much everything.
New Scania Bus HKZ is back on depot with new near side panelling - Looks the part again
What routes are the 2 Scanias sticking to nowadays? Would like to find them soon :D
i think they run on all service's as i saw one a while back X50
How come the X50 is now run by Solo's at 5pm as its normally the branded ones they they use
They just tend to show up anywhere John!, As for the Solo on the X50, there are booked duties on the X50 now that coincide with other duties! 07:45 of Birmingham is a Solo which then does the 182/183 and is replaced in Redditch by a branded Tempo from the C1.
The new Scanias are turning up everywhere, saw one had made it out to Banbury on the 270.
And watch out for changes to the X50, or 150 as it will soon be (no not the same 150 as the old Midland Red/Stratford Blue route!):
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news-detail.php?NewsID=110 (http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news-detail.php?NewsID=110)
Thanks for that :)
Managed to snap 'HKZ' on the X20 today
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/9209861344/
Quote from: D10 on July 04, 2013, 09:46:04 PM
The new Scanias are turning up everywhere, saw one had made it out to Banbury on the 270.
And watch out for changes to the X50, or 150 as it will soon be (no not the same 150 as the old Midland Red/Stratford Blue route!):
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news-detail.php?NewsID=110 (http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news-detail.php?NewsID=110)
Nice to see the service returning to cover parts of Redditch New Town. I'm guessing this is there way of saying that the 178 should have never been cancelled... even if it isn't following the exact same route.
http://www.worcestershire.gov.uk/chym/FileHandlers/BusServiceTimetable.pdf?ID=1616 (http://www.worcestershire.gov.uk/chym/FileHandlers/BusServiceTimetable.pdf?ID=1616)
I think they are trying to increase passenger numbers as they have been falling for some time now
Hope they don't go back to the original route of the 178 (or 177 or whichever one it was), would be better if it was a sort of "to Redditch then to Woodrow / Hospital / wherever", because if I'm honest I thought that's what the problem with the original route was, it didn't go direct enough for anyone going to Redditch, instead going on a magical mystery tour of the suburbs
One of the Scanias was at the stop in Moreton-in-Marsh station yard as the 13.18 HST from Hereford arrived and I was just debating whether to leap off when it left!
Quote from: Kevin on July 09, 2013, 09:46:20 AM
Hope they don't go back to the original route of the 178 (or 177 or whichever one it was), would be better if it was a sort of "to Redditch then to Woodrow / Hospital / wherever", because if I'm honest I thought that's what the problem with the original route was, it didn't go direct enough for anyone going to Redditch, instead going on a magical mystery tour of the suburbs
I was thinking the same thing. With the 146 is basically useless now with gaps in service during the day, and early finishing, and the 143 curtailed to Bromsgrove ... the X50 is the only viable alternative to the train now that a regular frequency has been restored.
From the timetable it appears that the new 150 will run from Redditch direct to the Alexandra Hospital via Woodrow (as opposed to Headless Cross, Crabbs Cross and Oakenshaw),and then run as per the 178 route from the Alexandra Hospital to Birmingham.
Quote from: sonic84 on July 09, 2013, 07:46:02 PM
From the timetable it appears that the new 150 will run from Redditch direct to the Alexandra Hospital via Woodrow (as opposed to Headless Cross, Crabbs Cross and Oakenshaw),and then run as per the 178 route from the Alexandra Hospital to Birmingham.
So still round the wrekin then... brilliant
I see the 2 johnsons scania's were on
X20 & X50 on Saturday wonder if they
will stay on there or still move from service
to service
Quote from: Solo1 on July 16, 2013, 12:22:55 PM
I see the 2 johnsons scania's were on
X20 & X50 on Saturday wonder if they
will stay on there or still move from service
to service
Well I seen them together by Park Street Stop PA4 this morning while I was on 4381 on the 2 One was on the X50 and I presume the other was on the X20 :)
I saw one before on the X20, and they both blend in and stand out against the Omnilinks that frequently appear on the 6 and 37 along the Stratford Road. 8)
Also I forgot to mention V145LGC made an appearance on the X20 today :)
New OmniLink 'HKZ' seems to becoming a regular on the X20, and 'HKY' a regular on the X50. Keep seeing them both on those routes
Shame I keep missing the Volvo ALX400 on the X20 :(
An ALX400 SN53 plater on X50, would have been 0700ish from Redditch
Quote from: John on July 16, 2013, 10:25:26 PM
New OmniLink 'HKZ' seems to becoming a regular on the X20, and 'HKY' a regular on the X50. Keep seeing them both on those routes
Shame I keep missing the Volvo ALX400 on the X20 :(
HKY was on the X20 yesterday.
Quote from: jc on July 19, 2013, 08:26:36 AM
An ALX400 SN53 plater on X50, would have been 0700ish from Redditch
Is that an Ex London United Trident I wonder? Some of those are 'SN53' plated
Was it in Johnsons livery?
Quote from: John on July 19, 2013, 10:10:35 PM
Quote from: jc on July 19, 2013, 08:26:36 AM
An ALX400 SN53 plater on X50, would have been 0700ish from Redditch
Is that an Ex London United Trident I wonder? Some of those are 'SN53' plated
Was it in Johnsons livery?
I seen it yesterday and it was all over white :)
Quote from: Rob2832 on July 19, 2013, 10:13:47 PM
I seen it yesterday and it was all over white :)
Thanks Rob :) Maybe with a X20 branded decker off the road it may appear on there more often
Quote from: John on July 19, 2013, 10:15:06 PM
Quote from: Rob2832 on July 19, 2013, 10:13:47 PM
I seen it yesterday and it was all over white :)
Thanks Rob :) Maybe with a X20 branded decker off the road it may appear on there more often
No Worries Mate ;) let's hope they do it will be good to see a variation in vehicles on the X20 or the X50 :)
Sorry I forgot to post this but Joe confirmed to me yesterday the white trident is SN53 KJV.
Quote from: BU07 LGO on July 19, 2013, 10:25:02 PM
Sorry I forgot to post this but Joe confirmed to me yesterday the white trident is SN53 KJV.
Is it ZF or Voith? Euro 3?
Quote from: nitromatt1 on July 19, 2013, 10:29:28 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on July 19, 2013, 10:25:02 PM
Sorry I forgot to post this but Joe confirmed to me yesterday the white trident is SN53 KJV.
Is it ZF or Voith? Euro 3?
Yes The London United tridents (SN53 batch) are Euro 3 and Most if not all are ZF (Sound identical to WN tridents
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 19, 2013, 10:42:12 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on July 19, 2013, 10:29:28 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on July 19, 2013, 10:25:02 PM
Sorry I forgot to post this but Joe confirmed to me yesterday the white trident is SN53 KJV.
Is it ZF or Voith? Euro 3?
Yes The London United tridents (SN53 batch) are Euro 3 and Most if not all are ZF (Sound identical to WN tridents
Thanks Nath - I'll watch one or two on Youtube :)
Well i think i watched one video with a voith engine but the rest have ZF engines like ours at WN.
It appears to be a 4 speed Voith so potentially quite a beast. Won't go under the railway at Bearley which explains it being on the X50, and Omnilinks on the X20 recently.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 19, 2013, 10:49:50 PM
Well i think i watched one video with a voith engine but the rest have ZF engines like ours at WN.
Voith and ZF are the gearbox manufacturers, the Tridents have Cummins engines.
Quote from: Stu on July 21, 2013, 10:22:30 AM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 19, 2013, 10:49:50 PM
Well i think i watched one video with a voith engine but the rest have ZF engines like ours at WN.
Voith and ZF are the gearbox manufacturers, the Tridents have Cummins engines.
Yes i meant gearbox sorry. NX tridents have Cummins ISce engines
Warwickshire branded omnilink on X50 , left with 8 passengers with two NX 50's leaving stuffed
Quote from: dgss1 on July 26, 2013, 07:56:44 PM
Warwickshire branded omnilink on X50 , left with 8 passengers with two NX 50's leaving stuffed
It does really seem to be struggling lately compared to the other 3 operators-I question how long that route can survive. Shame really as its not through johnsons lack of trying with consistently the newest buses on the stretch of road which are really clean and drivers are really nice as well. Shame... hope it picks up for them-maybe they could bring in some returns for maypole to birmingham bit or maybe up the frequency
I remember AMPM/Solihull travel the trident would regularly take a full load in the evening peak journey, but then again there weren't so many buses on the route then plus the drivers got paid bonus so would tend to try harder to encourage people to get on. I think some people still aren't sure they can catch the johnsons bus & don't know where it goes or stops.
Quote from: BU07 LGO on July 19, 2013, 10:25:02 PM
Sorry I forgot to post this but Joe confirmed to me yesterday the white trident is SN53 KJV.
What is the usual route for the Trident, as the X20 always seems to be the one remaining branded Olympus and OmniLink 'HKZ', or is it for schools like the Volvo B7TL?
Saw YJ59 GFE this evening on the X20 heading into city in Sparkbrook, not noticed one of these on there before!
Quote from: Stu on September 25, 2013, 07:59:50 PM
Saw YJ59 GFE this evening on the X20 heading into city in Sparkbrook, not noticed one of these on there before!
With Johnsons one decker down after its accident, it is usually one of the OmniLinks alongside the other decker on the X20 from what I see.
Do Johnsons still have the ex London Trident?
Quote from: John on September 25, 2013, 08:13:25 PM
Quote from: Stu on September 25, 2013, 07:59:50 PM
Saw YJ59 GFE this evening on the X20 heading into city in Sparkbrook, not noticed one of these on there before!
With Johnsons one decker down after its accident, it is usually one of the OmniLinks alongside the other decker on the X20 from what I see.
Do Johnsons still have the ex London Trident?
YJ59 GFE is an Optare Tempo though John :)
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 25, 2013, 08:17:00 PM
YJ59 GFE is an Optare Tempo though John :)
I know. I just said I only see an OmniLink on there as a single decker ;)
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 25, 2013, 08:17:00 PM
Quote from: John on September 25, 2013, 08:13:25 PM
Quote from: Stu on September 25, 2013, 07:59:50 PM
Saw YJ59 GFE this evening on the X20 heading into city in Sparkbrook, not noticed one of these on there before!
With Johnsons one decker down after its accident, it is usually one of the OmniLinks alongside the other decker on the X20 from what I see.
Do Johnsons still have the ex London Trident?
YJ59 GFE is an Optare Tempo though John :)
Yes, it was a Tempo I saw, what John meant, and I can vouch for as I often see the X20 pass me by while I'm waiting for my 37 from Sparkbrook, is that when a Scania Optare double-deck is not used, its often an Omnilink out on the X20.
Quote from: Stu on September 25, 2013, 08:53:54 PM
Saw YJ59 GFE this evening on the X20 heading into city in Sparkbrook, not noticed one of these on there before!
Another Tempo on there today, this time 'YJ07 EHH'
Quote from: John on September 26, 2013, 05:58:52 PM
Quote from: Stu on September 25, 2013, 08:53:54 PM
Saw YJ59 GFE this evening on the X20 heading into city in Sparkbrook, not noticed one of these on there before!
Another Tempo on there today, this time 'YJ07 EHH'
Thanks John, did see another Tempo on the X20 this evening, but didn't manage to catch the registration.
The new 150 route?
when did this happen?
It has been operating since Monday 29th July if my memory serves me correctly.
Quote from: trident4370 on October 08, 2013, 07:14:10 PM
It has been operating since Monday 29th July if my memory serves me correctly.
replaced the X50, in the daytime, Think the X50 is has only a few journeys now.
I don't know if the third X20 decker is back (The one involved in the accident), but on Thursday, there was an Olympus with a brand new front end, no logos/branding
Was it 'PN09 ENJ' involved, as the other two have been pictured in service in the past 2 weeks, this one has not been pictured since June?
Quote from: John on October 11, 2013, 08:50:21 PM
I don't know if the third X20 decker is back (The one involved in the accident), but on Thursday, there was an Olympus with a brand new front end, no logos/branding
Was it 'PN09 ENJ' involved, as the other two have been pictured in service in the past 2 weeks, this one has not been pictured since June?
Saw it again today. It is 'PN09 ENJ' with the new front end. The advert frames are also empty so it looks like to me it was the one involved in the accident, is now back in service.
Two brand new Scania Omnicitys have arrived and will shortly enter service
YN63 BNO and BNP.
Also four new coaches are on order for early 2014. Firstly a second 63 tri-axle Scania and 3 new Bova/VDL's (1 x 49 and 2 x 53's).
New omnilink YN63 BYP on 150
YN63 BYO on 150 today so both the new omnilinks are out.
Is a double on the 150 unusual ? If so there's a double out on the 150
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 20, 2013, 05:57:21 PM
Is a double on the 150 unusual ? If so there's a double out on the 150
Yes, usually Tempos or OmniLinks. What decker was it Nathan, an X20 Olympus or an ALX400?
John it was an ALX double , managed to get a pic when I come out the bullring but isn't identifiable.
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 20, 2013, 06:18:45 PM
John it was an ALX double , managed to get a pic when I come out the bullring but isn't identifiable.
'V145 LGC', Volvo B7TL then. Good spot, not seen in service much, used on College services 220/221 I think.
I was thinking it might have been 'SN53 KJV', Ex London United Trident but that has moved to pastures new
http://www.flickr.com/photos/peagreenbus/9949647313/
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 20, 2013, 05:57:21 PM
Is a double on the 150 unusual ? If so there's a double out on the 150
Not seen a double on this route since Solihull travel x50
Johnsons did have the E400H Demonstrator SN59 AWW on the X50 for about a week, and loaned Trident SN53 KJV not so long back but deckers are extremely rare on there.
Optare Solo on the 150 today (14/12/13). Is this unusual?
No they have a solo on there sometimes
There are a few Solo placing journeys on there, or at least there were a few months ago, always seems to be a Scania when i see it.
out today was http://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/11736282983/ on service 150 which was a shock to me as I normally see the other 63 reg'd one
The 150 sees any of Johnsons Omnilinks on it, nothing really rare.
The three buses i saw on there today were the two 63 plate and a 13 plate Scania's
Optare - X20 (is this unusual)
Quote from: John on January 08, 2014, 06:53:47 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on January 08, 2014, 06:42:08 PM
Optare - X20 (is this unusual)
Solo or Tempo Nathan?
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know the model name of the Optare-bodied Scania double-decks that are normally used on the X20?
Quote from: Stu on January 08, 2014, 07:02:43 PM
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know the model name of the Optare-bodied Scania double-decks that are normally used on the X20?
Scania N230UD/Optare Olympus
(Is this what you mean Stu?)
Quote from: John on January 08, 2014, 07:04:54 PM
Quote from: Stu on January 08, 2014, 07:02:43 PM
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know the model name of the Optare-bodied Scania double-decks that are normally used on the X20?
Scania N230UD/Optare Olympus
(Is this what you mean Stu?)
Thanks John, now I know what they are! ;) (not mentioned on Optare's website)
I saw a Tempo X20 earlier so that must be what Nathan meant.
Quote from: John on January 08, 2014, 06:53:47 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on January 08, 2014, 06:42:08 PM
Optare - X20 (is this unusual)
Solo or Tempo Nathan?
Tempo (:, I put it in an must have took it back out aha apologies
Solo on the X50 this morning
New VDL/Bova 49 Seater YD63FGA has entered the Tour Fleet this week
thanks for the info Barry.
Optare X1200 on the 87
100% of time normally a solo
Quote from: vinh1000 on February 17, 2014, 05:24:11 PM
Optare X1200 on the 87
100% of time normally a solo
I would say it's closer to 3/4 of workings are Solo operated.
It's not terribly rare to see a Tempo on there, with even the odd working done by one of the relatively new OmniLinks.
Some days, there are two Tempos on there! :)
I would like to recommend the 539 route between Coventry and Kenilworth.
If you like tours around country lanes and villages, this is a great way to spend a bit of time!
Two new VDL/Bovas 53 seaters arrived today for the Private Hire fleet (none-touring) are YD14 GDA and YD14 GDE
Evening Barry, do you have an up to date fleetlist for our friends in Henley-in-Arden? I'm trying to get a decent list of coach operators and their to-date correct fleetlist.
Thanks,
The final new vehicle of the 2014 intake arrived today. Brand new Scania tri-axle 63 seater YN14 PLO. 6 older Bovas are in the process of being sold - I'll update when the list is complete but it's mainly from the E.. JCT batch
By luck managed to ride one of the Scania Omnilinks on the 150 last week. Excellent buses and glad that the panelling has been lightened up compared the NXWM ones. Much brighter interior as a result and got me to Brum from Kings Heath in record time!
How well used is the 150 normally? I only ask, because I was having a break at work today this morning, and saw one of their Omnilinks turning from Bradford Street onto Moseley Road, with no passengers on board?
The tempo 150 that left town at 19:00 tonight had 0 on board, but you should see the journey that gets to KH at 9:48 weekday mornings, it's always packed. I suppose it is a real "flow" route.
I took a run out to Stratford-upon-Avon today and made use of the P&R, not only to sample this "quality operator" for my first time but to also only pay £2 rather than the town centre parking which for the time spent would of been £6.
The 1115 from car park, a usual hybrid (ticket says Bus 29) and a lady driver, all seats taken and all going well until going over Timothy's Bridge the bus does some kangaroo jerking, then just before Alcester Road near the fire station she stops here, a few minutes passes until a passenger queries an gets a response of "we will have wait for the next bus", some started walking and the rest of us had to stand on the next bus.
The 1735 from Bridge St, a standard Solo, one driver training the other, we get to Timothy's Bridge again and the road is blocked by the police due to an accident, we endured waiting of about 15 minutes until the drivers eventually decide to reverse and turnaround, why didn't they do this straight away?, both drivers clueless about a alternative route and after circling around an estate they eventually got back to Alcester Road and on to the A46.
Overall this delayed/wasted about 40-45 minutes of our time today and understand it's just some utter bad luck on this occasion but for the average non-enthusiast user a never again experience I would think.
im going to their garage on Friday hoping to see much there :)
@JPCThat is the danger of having Optares in the fleet; they are always likely to break down at some point! I've used the Stratford Park and Ride a few times now and never had a problem; unfortunately I think you encountered a bad day and afraid there is nothing to be done when the road is blocked by an accident, although I'd have thought there should be some instruction from the depot in this situation by phone (or radio but I don't think they have them fitted?)
went to their garage today lots in for a Friday :) this is what I saw
YJ59GFA Optare Tempo X1200
YN63BYO Scania Omnicity N230UB
YD02RHZ DAF SB220
YJ59GFE Optare Tempo X1200
YJ56NNF Scania Omnicity N230UB
YD02PXA Bova Futura C53F
YJ10JYF VDL Bova Futura C53F
Y13HKX Scania Omniexpress C63F
YJ07DWG VDL Bova Magiq C44FT
YD14GDE VDL Futura C48F
YN08JAO Scania Irizar PB C44FT
YJ10JYD VDL Bova Futura C49FT
YJ11EJE Optare Versa V1100 Hybrid N37F
YJ59GEY Optare Tempo X1200
Non PSV UWA293L Skylard
V145LGC Volvo B7TL ALX400
YJ05FXL VDL Bova Futura C49FT
E14JCT Bova Futura C49FT
E19JCT Bova Futura C53F
YD02PXB Bova Futura C53F
YT09FLR Scania Irizar PB C44FT
YJ11AMU VDL Bova Futura C49FT
E18JCT Bova Futura C53F
YJ62NLE VDL Futura C49FT
YJ07DWF VDL Bova Magiq C44FT
YJ11ANR VDL Bova Futura C49FT
YJ04GYC VDL Bova Futura C49FT
YJ05FXK VDL Bova Futura C49FT
YT09FLP Scania Irizar PB C44FT
E9JCT Bova Futura C37FT
YJ08NTE Bova Futura C49FT
YJ11AMO VDL Bova Futura C49FT
Minibuses:
YX08AOK Mercedes Benz Sprinter C15F
YX08AOW Mercedes Benz Vario C23F
@nxwmbusfan1999 - "Non PSV UWA 293L Skylard" - is that South Yorkshite Traction Atlantean? What's it doing in Johnsons yard?
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 30, 2014, 03:41:50 PM
@nxwmbusfan1999 - "Non PSV UWA 293L Skylard" - is that South Yorkshite Traction Atlantean? What's it doing in Johnsons yard?
im not sure why its there could be in for preservation
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on May 30, 2014, 03:54:56 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 30, 2014, 03:41:50 PM
@nxwmbusfan1999 - "Non PSV UWA 293L Skylard" - is that South Yorkshite Traction Atlantean? What's it doing in Johnsons yard?
im not sure why its there could be in for preservation
Would be nice if it was preserved, another Sheffield Transport Atlantean still intact.
YN56 NNF on x50
Mercs mini-bus YX08AOK was on rail replacement work between Droitwich and Bromsgrove this afternoon. [ DK03JCV of Five Star Cars was also noted. ] :)
Got a lift home from work this evening, and looked like the X20 was using the Warwick Road, no doubt to avoid the traffic chaos on the Stratford Road in Hall Green.
parked at riverside coach park today
E15JCT VDL Bova
E18JCT VDL Bova
E14JCT VDL Bova
what the price of a day return on x20 to Stratford on Saturdays & what services do the county links run on
Quote from: Solo1 on July 12, 2014, 09:40:33 PM
what the price of a day return on x20 to Stratford on Saturdays & what services do the county links run on
Johnsons very helpfully have an website listing their fares, here is the X20 link:
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/PDFs/X20_Bus_Fares_2014.pdf (http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/PDFs/X20_Bus_Fares_2014.pdf)
Why when changing drivers it went into the depot
to change drivers but the last time they changed
On the road
seen at heath mill lane Birmingham this morning
YN14PLB
YD02PXP
E15JCT
YT13HKX
Just saw a double decker going threw cotteridge
Freshly painted looked like a Dennis trident
Heading towards M42 possibly back to Johnson's in
Henley in Arden sorry no reg as it was to far in front of me
Johnsons seems to me a very useful sort of company, taking once-tendered routes like the X20 and 150 (which are definitely needed) and turning them into commercial routes. They have just launched their 21/22/23/24/25 service combination which combined gives a half-hour service Stratford to Lower Quinton, unthinkable a few years ago, and so there is now a reasonable service Stratford to Chipping Campden and Broadway, which has been a bit of a hopeless area for buses. Does anyone know to what extent these services are tendered? Possibly to some extent paid for by the developers of Meon Vale? If so this is an excellent way of getting bus services started. There doesn't seem to be much information on Warwickshire tenders on the web?
Johnsons has also won the tender for the 350 Redditch to Worcester service, which looks nothing much, but when you consider that there is no other direct service between the two biggest places in Worcestershire, it may have potential.
Yeah, I have much respect for Johnsons, they seem to have their head screwed on. Caught their X20 on Sunday and noticed a poster in the window about service changes, apparently some journeys on their 87 from Cov to Balsall Common are extending to Solihul, dont know if that was their change or called for as part of a tender or whatever, but fair play for it. I think we need more little local operators like them
Agreed - Johnsons is a good firm that has done well to expand in recent years. I do wonder how profitable the X20 is, as many passengers are pensioners with free passes, but the company's buses complement the coach operation well.
The 21/22 was almost entirely commercial before the 1 September changes. I believe the improvements (mainly the new 24 and 25) are funded by Section 106 payments made by St Modwen - the initial developer of Meon Vale - as 111 Roughley suspects. Normally Section 106 payments fund bus services (and/or improvements) for a couple of years or so - so the "crunch" time will come when that period ends.
By then Meon Vale will be rather larger than it is now, so with luck there could be enough passengers to justify permanent improvements.
The new 87 timetable is on Johnsons' website. 1 schoolday journey each way is now extended from/to Solihull.
Quote from: Justin Tyme on September 02, 2014, 09:35:40 PM
The new 87 timetable is on Johnsons' website. 1 schoolday journey each way is now extended from/to Solihull.
At the expense of the 0654 from Coventry which is given the axe.
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/PDFs/87_Bus_Timetable_from_1_Sept_2014_kk.pdf
Anyone interested, theres a Countylinks Scania on the 150 today.
How long has this been with johnsons as never seen it on the 150 before
Johnsons have about 4 Scania OmniCities which tend to stick on the Stratford work, 21, 22, 23, 24, 27 etc as there branded for Warwickshire County Council services.
Something going round Kidderminster is
Thatt Johnsons are buying a least the
Coach side of whittles ? Anyone heard anything
About this
I heard this too ... anymore updates to this ?
Quote from: moley67 on December 04, 2014, 08:04:16 PM
I heard this too ... anymore updates to this ?
Not heard anymore myself
Any reason why I wouldve seen 2 Johnsons Coaches on the BC Spine Road around 930am heading Dudley direction?
Whittles website states that they are now owned and operated by Johnsons
Quote from: Westy on January 12, 2015, 05:31:31 PM
Any reason why I wouldve seen 2 Johnsons Coaches on the BC Spine Road around 930am heading Dudley direction?
Presumably doing what Johnsons do!
They are regularly all over the West Midlands
Quote from: Tony on January 12, 2015, 06:28:41 PM
Quote from: Westy on January 12, 2015, 05:31:31 PM
Any reason why I wouldve seen 2 Johnsons Coaches on the BC Spine Road around 930am heading Dudley direction?
Presumably doing what Johnsons do!
They are regularly all over the West Midlands
I've even seen them in the deepest darkest corners of Lincolnshire :)
Quote from: Bryan on January 12, 2015, 08:28:27 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 12, 2015, 06:28:41 PM
Quote from: Westy on January 12, 2015, 05:31:31 PM
Any reason why I wouldve seen 2 Johnsons Coaches on the BC Spine Road around 930am heading Dudley direction?
Presumably doing what Johnsons do!
They are regularly all over the West Midlands
I've even seen them in the deepest darkest corners of Lincolnshire :)
Johnsons are everywhere. Proper coach company they are. Scotland, Spain, you name it I've seen Johnsons there.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on January 12, 2015, 08:48:21 PM
Quote from: Bryan on January 12, 2015, 08:28:27 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 12, 2015, 06:28:41 PM
Quote from: Westy on January 12, 2015, 05:31:31 PM
Any reason why I wouldve seen 2 Johnsons Coaches on the BC Spine Road around 930am heading Dudley direction?
Presumably doing what Johnsons do!
They are regularly all over the West Midlands
I've even seen them in the deepest darkest corners of Lincolnshire :)
Johnsons are everywhere. Proper coach company they are. Scotland, Spain, you name it I've seen Johnsons there.
Reminds me of a line from 'Police Academy' :D
I don't remember anyone on police academy mentioning Johnsons coaches
Just posted on Johnsons Website about Whittle Coaches.
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news-detail.php?NewsID=207 (http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news-detail.php?NewsID=207)
Quote from: Steveminor on January 12, 2015, 09:43:50 PM
I don't remember anyone on police academy mentioning Johnsons coaches
They didn't mention the coaches, but the other meaning of the word 'johnson' ;)
Chief Hurst: When I was a recruit, they were all the same height, weight and colour. And they all had johnsons! (points to his crotch). Johnsons as far as the eye could see!
Commandant Lassard: And what a wonderful sight that was! (smiles, then looks puzzled)
Quote from: Bryan on January 12, 2015, 08:28:27 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 12, 2015, 06:28:41 PM
Quote from: Westy on January 12, 2015, 05:31:31 PM
Any reason why I wouldve seen 2 Johnsons Coaches on the BC Spine Road around 930am heading Dudley direction?
Presumably doing what Johnsons do!
They are regularly all over the West Midlands
I've even seen them in the deepest darkest corners of Lincolnshire :)
There was a photo of one in a ditch this morning, near Stratford [Warks]. It was on a school run and had slid into the ditch from a slippery road - no one seriously injured which is good.
That's why I stayed clear of stratford this morning. If a coach can slide off the road what chance has a motorbike got
Volvo/Alexander decker V145 LGC left the fleet prior to Christmas and has been replaced by Scania single decker SN58 FWL from Scotland.... Not sure from which operator. (Whites, Bridge of Walls)
New vehicles due for delivery in April are 2 x 49 seater club class Bova/VDL's for the coach touring fleet. Also 3 x Unvi / Mercs are on order to replace the 08 minibuses. At least one is a 29 seater Voyager.
Barry, Johnsons already have a thread, no need to create another one, Winston
Quote from: barry on February 13, 2015, 12:02:40 AM
Volvo/Alexander decker V145 LGC left the fleet prior to Christmas and has been replaced by Scania single decker SN58 FWL from Scotland.... Not sure from which operator. (Whites, Bridge of Walls)
New vehicles due for delivery in April are 2 x 49 seater club class Bova/VDL's for the coach touring fleet. Also 3 x Unvi / Mercs are on order to replace the 08 minibuses. At least one is a 29 seater Voyager.
Barry, Johnsons already have a thread, no need to create another one, Winston
Is new arrival SN58 GWL still on the road? Doesn't look like it has been taxed since 31/1/15
Quote from: Tony on February 25, 2015, 07:13:28 PM
Quote from: barry on February 13, 2015, 12:02:40 AM
Volvo/Alexander decker V145 LGC left the fleet prior to Christmas and has been replaced by Scania single decker SN58 FWL from Scotland.... Not sure from which operator. (Whites, Bridge of Walls)
New vehicles due for delivery in April are 2 x 49 seater club class Bova/VDL's for the coach touring fleet. Also 3 x Unvi / Mercs are on order to replace the 08 minibuses. At least one is a 29 seater Voyager.
Barry, Johnsons already have a thread, no need to create another one, Winston
Is new arrival SN58 GWL still on the road? Doesn't look like it has been taxed since 31/1/15
Saw it on the X20
I saw it yesterday on the X20 too. Still got no working LED displays, just "X20" and "Birmingham to Stratford-upon-Avon" on bits of paper in the windscreen.
the 58 reg was out today at 13.20 from city https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16457730057/
PD0000226/109 - JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS
Variation Accepted: Operating between Berkswell Rail Sation and Coventry, Pool Meadow given service number 87 effective from 26-Apr-2015. To amend Route, Stopping Places and Timetable.
PD0000226/121 - JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Coventry, Pool Meadow Bus Station
Finish Point: Coundon, Overslade Crescent
Via: Scots Lane, Christchurch Road, Holyhead Road, Moseley Avenue
Service Number: 42
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 26-APR-2015
Other Details: Monday to Saturday
Cause of the tenders been put together by Centro so there is less lay over time.
Quote from: Adam 404 on March 03, 2015, 06:46:32 PM
Cause of the tenders been put together by Centro so there is less lay over time.
Very little overlay I would imagine as current timetables shows the 42 as 22/23 minutes each way and the 87 as 36/37 minutes each way, which totals 118 minutes.
But it may be possible the Cannon Park loop is removed from the 87 to provide more slack time and the reopening of Warwick Road will be another help. The two buses will obviously remain on the 87 at peak times possibly offering an odd extra journey to boot, all depends on how straightforward they want the timetable to be I suppose.
one of my mates photographed E400MMC YY64GWX with X20 display on it in Stratford-upon-Avon today
Johnsons might have it on loan?
@nxwmbusfan1999I think they do - I saw it on the X20 this morning as well - quite a shock to see it when I looked out of the window from the 76 :)
Quote from: Liberator9 on March 11, 2015, 04:44:17 PM
@nxwmbusfan1999
I think they do - I saw it on the X20 this morning as well - quite a shock to see it when I looked out of the window from the 76 :)
Yes, they are trailing it, as stated on their Twitter
Yes the MMC is on a weeks trial.... Catch it while you can.
Quote from: barry on March 11, 2015, 08:36:30 PM
Yes the MMC is on a weeks trial.... Catch it while you can.
Hope it's out Saturday on X20 :)
Asked Johsnons on their facebook page and
E400MMC Demo YY64GWX On X20 Saturday if anyone wants to get a photograph :)
Noticed on the list of April services changes on NWM site, the 87 is mentioned as extended to Solihull. I know the one journey is each way already but is it going to be all journeys now?
I talked to the Coventry Area Manager about this yesterday. All 87's are being extended to Solihull via Berkswell, Meriden and Hampton In Arden.
This could replace the TaxiBus...
Quote from: Adam 404 on March 15, 2015, 07:44:19 AM
I talked to the Coventry Area Manager about this yesterday. All 87's are being extended to Solihull via Berkswell, Meriden and Hampton In Arden.
This could replace the TaxiBus...
Intriguing...
NWM site says extended via Knowle
Quote from: Kevin on March 15, 2015, 10:39:17 AM
Quote from: Adam 404 on March 15, 2015, 07:44:19 AM
I talked to the Coventry Area Manager about this yesterday. All 87's are being extended to Solihull via Berkswell, Meriden and Hampton In Arden.
This could replace the TaxiBus...
Intriguing...
NWM site says extended via Knowle
Sounds interesting if they are indeed providing the extension all day with the surplus bus, It likely follows same route as existing extension - direct via Knowle, as there isn't enough time for anything longer, (morning peak is timed 25 minutes), the Cannon Park loop hopefully remains offering a convenient location for linking up with the 360 service ;).
Remember, the timetable goes with the 42 so they have extra time. They are hardly going to extend via Knowle when there is the 88.
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on March 12, 2015, 03:37:14 PM
Asked Johsnons on their facebook page and
E400MMC Demo YY64GWX On X20 Saturday if anyone wants to get a photograph :)
here is the demobus https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16636619070/
Quote from: Adam 404 on March 15, 2015, 07:44:19 AM
I talked to the Coventry Area Manager about this yesterday. All 87's are being extended to Solihull via Berkswell, Meriden and Hampton In Arden.
This could replace the TaxiBus...
Johnsons have a Coventry Area Manager??
Quote from: Dennis on March 16, 2015, 12:59:19 PM
Quote from: Adam 404 on March 15, 2015, 07:44:19 AM
I talked to the Coventry Area Manager about this yesterday. All 87's are being extended to Solihull via Berkswell, Meriden and Hampton In Arden.
This could replace the TaxiBus...
Johnsons have a Coventry Area Manager??
I think he means the network west midlands manger for the Coventry area
Quote from: Adam 404 on March 15, 2015, 02:12:15 PM
Remember, the timetable goes with the 42 so they have extra time. They are hardly going to extend via Knowle when there is the 88.
Between Balsall Common and Knowle the 88 goes via Oldwich Lane and Chadwick End, the 87 does not go that way but via Temple Balsall instead, a more direct route which is about 2½ miles shorter.
Between Solihull and Knowle the S3 is half-hourly and 88 is hourly, adding service 87 to this could potentially offer a balanced 15 minute frequency.
Balsall Common gets a more frequent and more direct bus service to Knowle and Solihull. Burton Green residents will welcome back a regular bus service which goes to Solihull.
This extended service 87 will be is about 62 mins and service 42 about 22 mins = 84 minutes plus the customary 6 minutes slack makes 90 minutes which equates to 180 minutes there and back = 3 buses, well that's what I expect the off peak period to look like.
Traveline Midlands (http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/) now hosts the new 42 and 87 timetables, confirming all 87 journeys extend to/from Solihull via Knowle, the resultant route revision through Balsall Common seems to avoid Alder Lane, Balsall Street East and Berkswell Rail Station.
In theory Diamond's 88 should be adjusted to run via Balsall Street East and Station Rd in both directions and terminate at Berkswell Rail Station -
@Simon Dunn take note.
E400MMC demo YY64GWX is now with Coach Services, Thetford if anybody is still looking for it
Two new 49 seater Bova/VDL's joined the fleet last Friday: YK15 OJJ & YK15 OJH - Already out in service
Solo out on 150 today...
Quote from: barry on March 30, 2015, 06:48:13 PM
Two new 49 seater Bova/VDL's joined the fleet last Friday: YK15 OJJ & YK15 OJH - Already out in service
A photo of both YK15OJJ and YK15OJH just uploaded on Johnsons facebook page :)
https://www.facebook.com/JohnsonsCoaches/photos/a.381615211868354.101103.170881406275070/1010299785666557/?type=1 (https://www.facebook.com/JohnsonsCoaches/photos/a.381615211868354.101103.170881406275070/1010299785666557/?type=1)
The two 15 plate Bovas are having to go back to the dealership for minor rectification work. Continual water tank leakage into luggage compartment, hopefully back very soon. You pay out half a million on two vehicles and all you get is wet luggage... Great!
Quote from: barry on April 07, 2015, 10:23:19 PM
The two 15 plate Bovas are having to go back to the dealership for minor rectification work. Continual water tank leakage into luggage compartment, hopefully back very soon. You pay out half a million on two vehicles and all you get is wet luggage... Great!
would've been good if they got one of latest models from Plaxton
they could have 1 Plaxton Elite and 1 Panther or Leopard
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on April 08, 2015, 06:46:26 AM
would've been good if they got one of latest models from Plaxton
they could have 1 Plaxton Elite and 1 Panther or Leopard
Johnsons have had Bovas for very many years, so I suspect this is a minor problem, otherwise they wouldn't continue to buy them.
I have to say the P&R Johnsons provide in Stratford is fantastic and competitively priced. £2 return for 1 adult and 2 children. It is a pity that park and rides are not used more often in the big cities (Birmingham take note!!!)
The 221 & 222 changed last week.
http://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/blog/archives/alerts/bus-timetable-changes-6-april-2015
What bus do they use on 183?
183 used to be booked Solo.
Apparently 3 E200s are due for the 87 and also 3 new as yet unknown deckers due in September.
Possibly for the X20?
Will the deckers be the hybrids they got funding for a while back?
By the way the 3 decker a due in September are Enviro 400's similar,are to the demo they had a few weeks back. They will be direct replacements for the current 09 platesm
Around 6 pm today , there was a johnsons 04 REG coach being hitched up to a tow truck
by the land oak pub on the Birmingham road in Kidderminster, then about 20 mins or so
it came past my place on tenneyson way wonder if it was being taken back to Henley or
to whittles depot . the Bromsgrove road or whittles depot both are easy to get to from
tenneyson way anyone know which one it is.
PN09EMJ
Spotted on Bristol rd South by bournville college longbridge
@1130 today
Quote from: Matt on June 08, 2015, 06:10:40 PM
PD0000226/111 - JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS
Cancellation Accepted by SN: Operating between Redditch Bus Station and Evesham Bus Station given service number 248 effective from 31-May-2015.
Warwickshire Tendered service replaced in part (Redditch to Alcester) by tendered stagecoach route 26A.
Busy few days ahead at Johnson's... Today the brand new Whittles 15 plate Plaxton arrived (see Whittles thread). Last week two of the new 15 plate Unvi Mercedes midi coaches arrived (haven't had chance to get reg nos yet as they seem permanently out). The third is due any day as are the three new Enviro 200 buses (we're checking for signs of maroon paint when they arrive just in case they are Nx AG's cast offs ( lol). The 3 MMC Enviro 400 replacements for the X20 are due in September when I understand the existing 09 Optares will be sold.
is the plan still to have the enviro's 200 on the 87 service Solihull -Coventry or what service will they be found on if not the 87
Johnson's New Mini Coach PO15LFL Was Out Today
Picture- https://www.flickr.com/photos/115199517@N06/18768614831/in/dateposted/
Saw the back end of Johnson's county links
bus heading down away from the bull ring at approx 5.50 tonight
Johnson's are getting their first 2 E200's tomorrow
https://www.facebook.com/JohnsonsExcelbus/photos/pcb.857935417589342/857935314256019/?type=1&theater
@nxwmbusfan1999 Nice shot of them there - am I right in thinking they're going to be used on the 87.
Quote from: Liberator9 on June 22, 2015, 10:28:17 PM
@nxwmbusfan1999
Nice shot of them there - am I right in thinking they're going to be used on the 87.
@Liberator9 I can confirm that they are for the 87 I was told by a Johnsons driver a few weeks ago.
Thanks
@Reece - will be good to see them in Solihull!
at least one in service this morning
YY15NJF and YY15NJJ already seen on 87 this morning.
YY15NJF did 09:35 to Coundon and YY15NJK is 09:25 Coventry to Solihull
Omniexpress YN14PLO
parked at moor street (50 stop) 1110
Anyone know what happened with the 12.30 87 service from
solihull as it went to the station & didn't return
YY15NJK on 1032 87 to Coventry
At Solihull now
PD0000226/18 - JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Warwickshire, Ullenhall, Winged Spur and Solihull, Civic Hall Car Park South given service number Solihull Shopper effective from 14-Sep-2015.
PD0000226/122 - JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Stratford upon Avon
Finish Point: Solihull
Via:
Service Number: 520
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 14-SEP-2015
Other Details: Monday to Saturday.
Quote from: Winston on July 24, 2015, 12:52:03 PM
PD0000226/18 - JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Warwickshire, Ullenhall, Winged Spur and Solihull, Civic Hall Car Park South given service number Solihull Shopper effective from 14-Sep-2015.
PD0000226/122 - JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Stratford upon Avon
Finish Point: Solihull
Via:
Service Number: 520
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 14-SEP-2015
Other Details: Monday to Saturday.
wonder if this service is a 1 trip each way or bus every hour
At least one tempo on the 87 today
A&M Flexibus currently run the 520 service (https://apps.warwickshire.gov.uk/BusTimetable/services/1407) between Stratford-upon-Avon and Baddesley Clinton (near the Solihull boundary) on Tuesdays & Fridays.
If Johnsons are willing to run an enhanced service extended to offer a useful destination in either direction then I shall wish them the best of luck, can't see it being any more than two or three return journeys a day.
Quote from: Solo1 on July 24, 2015, 04:12:14 PM
wonder if this service is a 1 trip each way or bus every hour
The new E400s for the X20 should start to enter service from the 7th September: :)
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news-detail.php?NewsID=245
Interesting bit of info in the Historic Route section though. I had always thought that motor bus (as opposed to horse and cart)operation of this route had only been Johnsons for the last few years. I had only ever previously associated the X20 / 150 route with Midland Red, Stratford Blue, Midland Red (South) and Stagecoach.
Quote from: D10 on July 25, 2015, 01:35:23 PM
The new E400s for the X20 should start to enter service from the 7th September: :)
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news-detail.php?NewsID=245
Interesting bit of info in the Historic Route section though. I had always thought that motor bus (as opposed to horse and cart)operation of this route had only been Johnsons for the last few years. I had only ever previously associated the X20 / 150 route with Midland Red, Stratford Blue, Midland Red (South) and Stagecoach.
Johnsons were carriers in the early 20th century and would no doubt have carried goods and occasional passengers along what is now the X20 route. However, I have found no record that they ran a bus service to Birmingham until recent times. There was a Saturday evening Stratford - Birmingham service (1 journey each way) for a short while in 1990-91, but they only came onto the X20 in 2009.
Quote from: Justin Tyme on July 25, 2015, 07:42:41 PM
Johnsons were carriers in the early 20th century and would no doubt have carried goods and occasional passengers along what is now the X20 route. However, I have found no record that they ran a bus service to Birmingham until recent times. There was a Saturday evening Stratford - Birmingham service (1 journey each way) for a short while in 1990-91, but they only came onto the X20 in 2009.
I assume the E400s will be lower to fit under Bearley bridge. It is a little unnerving to sit on the top deck of the present deckers to see the flashing warning lights and 'Turn Back' message!
Stupid question but, E400 or E400MMC?
Quote from: Dom on July 25, 2015, 08:20:50 PM
Stupid question but, E400 or E400MMC?
E400 mmc euro 6 engine is what the page say
Quote from: Chris on July 25, 2015, 09:15:23 PM
E400 mmc euro 6 engine is what the page say
No it just says Enviro 400's ad considering you can get euro 6 versions of both is quite confusing, hence the question.
Quote from: Dom on July 25, 2015, 08:20:50 PM
Stupid question but, E400 or E400MMC?
@Dom No they are E400MMC's got told this by a Johnson's driver about a months ago.
They had a demonstrator on loan a while back too.
http://wmbusphotos.com/Johnsons/YY64GWX.html
Quote from: Stu on July 26, 2015, 04:04:51 PM
They had a demonstrator on loan a while back too.
http://wmbusphotos.com/Johnsons/YY64GWX.html
Is that my eyes or are there rear facing seats on the upper deck by the stairs?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 26, 2015, 04:23:16 PM
Is that my eyes or are there rear facing seats on the upper deck by the stairs?
They are rear facing seats :)
Quote from: Solo1 on June 27, 2015, 09:08:48 PM
Anyone know what happened with the 12.30 87 service from
solihull as it went to the station & didn't return
Follow @JohnsonsTraffic on Twitter would be your best bet to find out about service disruptions.
Quote from: JPC on July 24, 2015, 05:07:34 PM
A&M Flexibus currently run the 520 service (https://apps.warwickshire.gov.uk/BusTimetable/services/1407) between Stratford-upon-Avon and Baddesley Clinton (near the Solihull boundary) on Tuesdays & Fridays.
If Johnsons are willing to run an enhanced service extended to offer a useful destination in either direction then I shall wish them the best of luck, can't see it being any more than two or three return journeys a day.
WarksCC now confirms this new service (http://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/blog/archives/alerts/bus-timetable-changes-14-september-2015), numbered
S20 (not 520) and complements the X20 via Henley-in-Arden, so obviously not going to replace A&M's 520 service.
Utmost credits to Johnsons for releasing their S20 timetable (http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/PDFs/S20_Timetable_for_Web.pdf) six weeks before it starts. :o
Wonder as they as johnsons are getting new buses for the X20 will they be using 1 of the deckers from the x20 or some thing else
wonder what will be allocated buses for S20
Quote from: Solo1 on August 03, 2015, 06:02:07 AM
Wonder as they as johnsons are getting new buses for the X20 will they be using 1 of the deckers from the x29 or some think else
What else do ^some think?^ ;) Or perhaps ^something else^.
Quote from: Solo1 on August 03, 2015, 06:02:07 AM
Wonder as they as johnsons are getting new buses for the X20 will they be using 1 of the deckers from the x20 or some thing else
It looks like the S20 will have to go under Dorridge Station bridge, so it will have to be single deck.
This wil be a useful route for me ;D
Could be the case that the X20 Deckers move onto the 150 perhaps, and then the Scanias work some of the other single deck routes? This S20 will only need 1 bus during the daytime looking at the timetable; easily use a Scania on it.
Apparently the Olympus's will be sold when the new MMCs are in service. Unsure how true that information is, not sure the X50 is a service that could really fill a decker
That's true regarding the 150/X50 - I couldn't exactly see it sustaining a double deck load either. I assume a Scania or Tempo would be used on the S20 - unless they'll start with a Solo and see how it goes?
Used to regularly fill a decker when ampm ran it.
Thursday duty 2 had to have a decker or would leave people standing.
It does look like passenger numbers have fallen since then though
The 9:30 journey from Wythall could fill a decker on some mornings, other than that it does seem a bit quiet.
YN63BYO on X20 just left carrs lane 1225
Scania on the X20 again today - there was yesterday as well - seems to be 1 spare off the 150 etc. at the moment - would be logical if a Scania works the S20 - as it's two hourly would be a ideal size.
2 VDL Bovas on V festival today
At corporation street loading up
Just remembered seeing a Solo on the X20 yesterday evening! :o
YN56NNE (County Links) on X20 now heading into Birmingham 0715
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on August 22, 2015, 07:16:12 AM
YN56NNE (County Links) on X20 now heading into Birmingham 0715
It ended up doing the last departure from brum - the 1920 short journey to henley and on to the depot.
Johnsons now have the the three Scania Olymplus double decker's up for sale
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/vehicles-for-sale.html
When are Johnsons getting these Enviro 400MMCs then?
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on September 01, 2015, 07:54:57 PM
When are Johnsons getting these Enviro 400MMCs then?
Sure I read on hear somewhere they are due to enter service next Monday.
Yes that's what I read too, maybe they are going to appear sometime this week
The first of the MMC's SN65 OJB arrived this afternoon and is awaiting its very strong vinyls being applied. Look out for them when they hit the road they'll stand out and look superb. The other two will follow shortly
Saw it coming down the motorway this morning near Manchester.
Don't know if it's already been answered but does anyone know what spec the enviro mmc's are going to be I;e leather seats WiFi etc?
Quote from: danny on September 02, 2015, 08:27:43 PM
Don't know if it's already been answered but does anyone know what spec the enviro mmc's are going to be I;e leather seats WiFi etc?
The new Enviro 400 buses offer the highest standards in passenger comfort with high back E leather seats and WIFI USB ports for charging mobile devises. http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news-detail.php?NewsID=245
Quote from: Sayeed on September 02, 2015, 08:35:11 PM
The new Enviro 400 buses offer the highest standards in passenger comfort with high back E leather seats and WIFI USB ports for charging mobile devises.
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news-detail.php?NewsID=245
I think Johnson's are being a little too keen in claiming to have run the 'X20' for a century! How about Midland Red and Stratford Blue on the 150?
SN65 OJB arrived this afternoon. I belive the 3rd and final one comes tomorrow. The X20 branding will be 'From the Bard to the Bull' featuring a large raging Bull and a image of Shakespeare.... Looks superb.
Sorry typo... SN65 0JA arrived today OJB arrived yesterday
Not sure it has been mentioned but theres been a white E200 on loan, possibly the extra vehicle for the S20?
The white E200 has been loaned as cover for the World disabled basketball championships which has been taking place in Worcester over the last 2 weeks but it's hardly been used
The three MMC 400's are due to enter service on Monday - all logoed up and ready to role.... The Bards Bus!
"OJB" was parked on the main coach park in Stratford upon Avon @ 14.00 yesterday. Sorry for only just posting this but my PC was on a go slow last night . . . . . :o
I seen a new e400 this morning in bham looked rather nice
one of X20 optare seen in birmingham displaying merry chirstmas and happy new year
Johnsons Scania on route testing for the S20 - very pleased to see it's a Scania! Been out all day following the timetable, to ensure it's workable - good idea.
Just had OJA very nice bus , roof a bit lower than a NXWM E400mmc
Quote from: 4484 on September 07, 2015, 11:03:29 AM
Just had OJA very nice bus , roof a bit lower than a NXWM E400mmc
If it wasn't Bearley railway bridge might be a problem...
two of the new buses on X20 https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/21030704128/in/dateposted-public/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/20595902554/in/dateposted-public/
Sampled OJB, 'Romeo' I think this afternoon. Nice bus. A loot cooler than the. Greenhouse Optare I sampled earlier in the day. The only downside is the extremely loud, almost deafening on board announcements. They really need to turn the volume down on that. It wasn't just annoying, but boarder line offensive to the ears.
PN09ENJ on X20
Just did 0920 to Stratford
SN65OHZ on 1020 to Stratford
SN65OJB on 1120 to Stratford
Quote from: Gareth on September 07, 2015, 03:42:38 PM
Sampled OJB, 'Romeo' I think this afternoon. Nice bus. A loot cooler than the. Greenhouse Optare I sampled earlier in the day. The only downside is the extremely loud, almost deafening on board announcements. They really need to turn the volume down on that. It wasn't just annoying, but boarder line offensive to the ears.
'OHZ' is named Tybalt
Quote from: John on September 08, 2015, 11:15:12 AM
'OHZ' is named Tybalt
Not being a fan of the works of Shakespeare, I couldn't understand any of it, I decided to find out the relevance of the name Tybalt. It appears he was main antagonist in the play Romeo and Juliet, a rival to Romeo. Now how many of you knew that?
Quote from: Bryan on September 08, 2015, 11:35:19 AM
Not being a fan of the works of Shakespeare, I couldn't understand any of it, I decided to find out the relevance of the name Tybalt. It appears he was main antagonist in the play Romeo and Juliet, a rival to Romeo. Now how many of you knew that?
I did as i studied it when i was at school for my GCSEs in 2004/5/6. But in a strange way he also brought them closer Romeo and Juliet that is.
Scania been on the S20 again today and yesterday training again I assume - even has the displays on to show S20 even though the service starts next Monday. Very thorough by Johnsons.
@Liberator9 Johnsons were advertising that it started Monday
Thanks - pretty good work by Johnsons. Glad to see they are using a Scania on the route as opposed to a Solo.
Solo YJ54UBX in service today but without names etc, sale or re-spray ??? :-\
Well the S20 had a good load on today - they've started the service earlier than first stated - only thing is Centro have yet to change most of the stops and timetables.
YN56NNF on the X50 today
Pretty sure there is an Olympus going into service on the 150, came from depot, with 150 on paper in the window ... cant guarantee though, was definitely and Olympus and Redditch bound!
Quote from: jc on September 16, 2015, 07:24:07 AM
Pretty sure there is an Olympus going into service on the 150, came from depot, with 150 on paper in the window ... cant guarantee though, was definitely and Olympus and Redditch bound!
Yes - noted Redditch bound at Wythall at 19:30h - ENJ, I think.
ex X20 optare on 150
PN09 ELJ.
Same duty as yesterday.
Destination programmed for 150.
Tempo YJ57EGU out on the S20 today - certainly gets some variety - had one of the Scanias last week (63BYP) and had Solo YJ08PGX yesterday.
Quote from: Liberator9 on September 17, 2015, 07:29:57 PM
Tempo YJ57EGU out on the S20 today - certainly gets some variety - had one of the Scanias last week (63BYP) and had Solo YJ08PGX yesterday.
spotted EGU in Solihull about 1730
E18JCT VDL Bova passed Sheldon Wheatsheaf 1800 towards City
Quote from: Liberator9 on September 17, 2015, 07:29:57 PM
Tempo YJ57EGU out on the S20 today - certainly gets some variety - had one of the Scanias last week (63BYP) and had Solo YJ08PGX yesterday.
how well is the S20 doing
@Solo1 Healthy loads from what I've seen - rode it in full length today and certainly had a good healthy number on, certainly has a steady trade. I expect it to continue to get better - quite popular with shoppers and students along the route.
Scania is back on today as well
Any one see what Johnson were using in Stratford upon Avon on Saturday as I think I missed a few of the
Buses due to the road been closed with the food festival been on
@Solo1 Scania 13 reg was on the S20
PO15LFL
Departed Solihull Station just now
Picking up passengers for a excursion
The Optare Olympus Double Deckers are for sale at £92,500 + VAT
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/vehicles-for-sale.html
Would you say this is a decent price?
Quote from: Adam 404 on September 28, 2015, 07:14:32 PM
The Optare Olympus Double Deckers are for sale at £92,500 + VAT
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/vehicles-for-sale.html
Would you say this is a decent price?
They have been up for sale for a while now
@Adam 404 Quote from: 2206 on September 01, 2015, 07:43:48 PM
Johnsons now have the the three Scania Olymplus double decker's up for sale
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/vehicles-for-sale.html
@2206 It said "Offers" last week but now there is a solid price. That is what I was outlining. :)
Quote from: Adam 404 on September 28, 2015, 07:22:52 PM
@2206 It said "Offers" last week but now there is a solid price. That is what I was outlining. :)
I think there was a price when I first saw a month ago it maybe someone possibly was going to buy them and put a offer in but, didn't?
@Adam 404
I can't help but think Midland Classic might go for them.
Johnsons Excell Optare Olympus on NXWM Service 50 from Druids Heath to Birmingham.
I am new to this post BTW so this the first post i have done on this page for Johnsons Buses.
Quote from: Demonstrator4698 on October 05, 2015, 07:16:19 PM
Johnsons Excell Optare Olympus on NXWM Service 50 from Druids Heath to Birmingham.
I am new to this post BTW so this the first post i have done on this page for Johnsons Buses.
You most likely saw the bus on the 150 from Redditch which follows the main mad rush of the 50 from Maypole Island to Birmingham City Centre.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on October 05, 2015, 07:44:07 PM
You most likely saw the bus on the 150 from Redditch which follows the main mad rush of the 50 from Maypole Island to Birmingham City Centre.
Could have been the X50 also.
It was the 150, it has been out all day.
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Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Stratford upon Avon and Solihull given service number S20/S20A effective from 02-Nov-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.
Johnsons Solo MX08 MYR doing 150 to Redditch. Not sure whether that's a noteworthy mention or not.
Johnsons
had this at their depot today
https://www.facebook.com/JohnsonsCoaches/photos/a.186902641339613.49160.170881406275070/1116133238416544/?type=3&theater
SN65OHZ/OJA noted in Stratford on the X20 today and coaches E11/12/14/18JCT.YJ04GYD,YJ05FXL and YT09FLR were all operating rail replacement services from Banbury Railway Station. :)
Quote from: Demonstrator4698 on October 05, 2015, 07:16:19 PM
Johnsons Excell Optare Olympus on NXWM Service 50 from Druids Heath to Birmingham.
These d/d's are turning up on various different routes whilst still in service. PN09ELJ was on the C1 college service between Redditch and Bromsgrove a couple of days ago. The bus was still in Johnsons livery bus with the Johnsons names removed. :)
YT13HKY and YN63BYO on the X20 today.
Bus and Coach website with some details on four Volvo Plaxton Panthers due in 2016
http://www.busandcoach.com/news/articles/four-plaxtons-for-johnsons-taking-orders-over-2million-this-year/
Someone has bought the Optare's... Does anyone know who?
Johnsons have another demonstrator on loan
YJ64DWK Optare Metrocity
Quote from: Adam 404 on October 28, 2015, 09:14:59 AM
Someone has bought the Optare's... Does anyone know who?
The 3 deckers have gone to Sanders of Holt
Irizar PB YT09FLR on rail rep between Birmingham and Stratford Upon Avon
YY15NJK's Destination Display isn't working.
https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.472695066235765.1073742100.369276339910972/474439249394680/?type=3&theater
Not sure which one but saw a Scania K230UB on the S20 earlier today.
Scanias usually are the allocated vehicle on Saturdays - sometimes appear on Weekdays as well.
YY15NJK On 42 today
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on November 20, 2015, 12:08:24 PM
YY15NJK On 42 today
No shocks there as the Enviro 200's were bought for the 42 / 87 as they are on the same rota.
I wondered why they have ages in Coventry before going back. Thanks
@Adam 404
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on November 20, 2015, 03:44:06 PM
I wondered why they have ages in Coventry before going back. Thanks @Adam 404
That's a good point
@Dylanbusboy45 , does Johnsons have an outstation for Coventry as it is a bit of a way out for the 539 & 580 as well as the 42 / 87?
I don't think so no but it would be a good idea so that if something brakes down, they don't need to take it all the way back to Henley.
Quote from: Adam 404 on November 20, 2015, 03:48:58 PM
That's a good point @Dylanbusboy45 , does Johnsons have an outstation for Coventry as it is a bit of a way out for the 539 & 580 as well as the 42 / 87?
Seen a Johnsons van in Coventry before now but not sure if that was for a breakdown or just the equivalent of their staff bus
Quote from: Adam 404 on November 20, 2015, 03:48:58 PM
does Johnsons have an outstation for Coventry as it is a bit of a way out for the 539 & 580 as well as the 42 / 87?
I don't think so - certainly there is no operating centre in the Coventry area shown on the VOSA website. When I caught an 87 from Coventry to Solihull one Saturday afternoon, I was surprised when we changed driver at Cannon Park. Could it be more convenient to dash up the A46 from Stratford to Cannon Park than to get from Stratford to Solihull?
No the buses come over to Coventry from Johnson's base. Cannon Park has a cafe and facilities. During the daytime a car with Johnson sticker on it is parked in the bus lay by in the Leamington Road before the A45 where reliefs take place on route 539 which interworks with route 580.
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YY15NJJ and SN65O?? are on the X20 today.
Quote from: 2206 on December 02, 2015, 09:08:40 PM
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Variation Accepted: Operating between Moreton In Marsh and Stratford On Avon given service number 21/22/522 effective from 04-Jan-2016. To amend Route, Stopping Places and Timetable.
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Variation Accepted: Operating between Stratford upon Avaon and Evesham Bus Station given service number 24 effective from 04-Jan-2016. To amend Route, Stopping Places and Timetable.
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news-detail.php?NewsID=281
New Service "53" in Coventry today... https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.472698472902091.1073742103.369276339910972/489939131178025/?type=3&theater
AKA 539...
Which later become the "58"
AKA 580...
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Variation Accepted: Operating between Berkswell Rail Sation and Coventry, Pool Meadow given service number 87 effective from 10-Apr-2016. To amend Timetable.
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news-detail.php?NewsID=285
6 new coaches reach the cost of just under a million pounds.
Stratford Park & Ride bus on 87 today.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/VPz1n7
YT13HKY is on the 21 today and YN63BYO is on the 24 today
Brand New Scania Omniexpress 63 Seater joined the fleet today - YN16 UAJ. A second will follow shortly making 4 in total
Not sure this will go down to well!
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Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Solihull and Stratford On Avon given service number 220 effective from 28-Apr-2016.
Assuming this is the S20
Quote from: Adam 404 on March 04, 2016, 04:38:19 PM
Not sure this will go down to well!
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Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Solihull and Stratford On Avon given service number 220 effective from 28-Apr-2016.
Assuming this is the S20
No its not. Its the 220.
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/PDFs/220_Dorridge_to_Stratford_Colleg.pdf
Quote from: 2206 on March 04, 2016, 04:48:07 PM
No its not. Its the 220.
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/PDFs/220_Dorridge_to_Stratford_Colleg.pdf
Oh right! I'm sure the S20 has a different number? At least the S20 is unaffected :) and thanks for clearing that up
@2206
A Johnson's VDL noted near Dunfermline on Friday
2nd Scania Omniexpress 63 seater has arrived: YN16 UAK
The 4 Plaxton Volvos are due w/c 25 April
2 x 49 Club Class - YN16 NYA YN16NYB
2 x 53 - YN16 NYC YN16 NYD
Just seen this on Facebook - http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/join-our-office-team.html
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Registration AcceptedStarting Point: Warks College LeamingtonFinish Point: Warls College HenleyVia: Hatton, ShrewleyCommon, ClaverdonService Number: 61Service Type: School or WorksEffective Date: 06-JUN-2016Other Details: Monday to Friday (AM&PM)
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Registration AcceptedStarting Point: Moreton Morrell Warks CollegeFinish Point: Henley in ArdenVia: Wellesbourne, Tiddington, Stratford, Wilmcote, Alcester, StudleyService Number: 239Service Type: School or WorksEffective Date: 06-JUN-2016Other Details: Monday to Friday (PM)
PD0000226/127 - JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS
Registration AcceptedStarting Point: Leamington SpaFinish Point: Avon DassettVia: Bishops Tachbrookm Kineton, GaydonService Number: 77Service Type: Normal StoppingEffective Date: 06-JUN-2016Other Details: Monday to Saturday
PD0000226/129 - JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS
Registration AcceptedStarting Point: Stratford upon AvonFinish Point: BanburyVia: Shipston on Stour, Brailes, The SibfordsService Number: 50AService Type: Normal StoppingEffective Date: 06-JUN-2016Other Details: Monday to Saturday
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Interesting - after a long quiet period, it looks like 6 June will be a relatively big day in Warwickshire.
The new registrations (124 - 129) are currently all operated by Stagecoach.
YJ05FXK is on rail replacement today.
What are a solo &scania from Johnson's doing on what looks like a farm just before stratford parkway station on the left as you co.e from brum
I think they park there during there lunch break etc or in between services
@Solo1
New Plaxton Panther / Volvos entering the fleet yesterday were:
49 Club Class - YX16 NYA YX16 NYB
53 Seaters - YX16 NYC YX16 NYD
Quote from: barry on May 04, 2016, 06:30:49 PM
New Plaxton Panther / Volvos entering the fleet yesterday were:
49 Club Class - YX16 NYA YX16 NYB
53 Seaters - YX16 NYC YX16 NYD
Barry,
All in Johnsons livery or any for Whittles?
Quote from: BN on May 04, 2016, 06:36:37 PM
Barry,
All in Johnsons livery or any for Whittles?
none for whittles
Quote from: barry on May 04, 2016, 06:30:49 PM
New Plaxton Panther / Volvos entering the fleet yesterday were:
49 Club Class - YX16 NYA YX16 NYB
53 Seaters - YX16 NYC YX16 NYD
https://www.facebook.com/JohnsonsCoaches/videos/vb.170881406275070/1248883411808192/?type=2&theater
Services starting in June.
Service 77: http://johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news-detail.php?NewsID=303
Services 50A, X70, 269, 270: http://johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news-detail.php?NewsID=302
Service 221 & 222: http://johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news-detail.php?NewsID=300
Service 21, 22, 23, 24, 25: http://johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news-detail.php?NewsID=301
Quote from: Adam 404 on May 05, 2016, 05:32:59 PM
Services starting in June.
Service 77: http://johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news-detail.php?NewsID=303
Services 50A, X70, 269, 270: http://johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news-detail.php?NewsID=302
Service 221 & 222: http://johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news-detail.php?NewsID=300
Service 21, 22, 23, 24, 25: http://johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news-detail.php?NewsID=301
Timetables (Starting 6th June) from Traveline
X20 - http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&command=direct&net=cen&line=32X20&sup=X&itdLPxx_direction=R&project=y11&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_sessionID=CEN_EFA03_1374341040&lineVer=4&itdLPxx_spTr=4&itdLPxx_operatorCodeForTTB=JOH
21/22 - http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&command=direct&net=swe&line=45021&sup=Z&itdLPxx_direction=H&project=y10&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_sessionID=CEN_EFA03_1374341040&lineVer=2&itdLPxx_spTr=2&itdLPxx_operatorCodeForTTB=JC
24 - http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&command=direct&net=swe&line=45024&sup=A&itdLPxx_direction=H&project=y10&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_sessionID=CEN_EFA03_1374341040&lineVer=2&itdLPxx_spTr=2&itdLPxx_operatorCodeForTTB=JC
Quote from: Adam 404 on May 05, 2016, 05:32:59 PM
Services starting in June.
Service 77: http://johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news-detail.php?NewsID=303
Services 50A, X70, 269, 270: http://johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news-detail.php?NewsID=302
Service 221 & 222: http://johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news-detail.php?NewsID=300
Service 21, 22, 23, 24, 25: http://johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news-detail.php?NewsID=301
Timetables are now on Johnsons Website: http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/bus-time-tables.html
An extra buses needed or do they have enough wondering what they will use on this Leamington service
Quote from: Solo1 on May 13, 2016, 05:39:46 PM
An extra buses needed or do they have enough wondering what they will use on this Leamington service
It has been mentioned that they may get a new decker for the X70.
I think that they will need to get additional Buses, what they will be is a mystery at the moment.
It is nice to see that Johnsons now will operated all the journeys in Kineton.
Do they still have the 3 deckers that were on x20 till the news ones arrived &the v reg one they could use them
They don't have the old X20 Scanias Optares anymore but they may still have V145LGC but I'm not sure.
V145 left a long time ago too, the only deckers they have are the MMCs
Johnsons now have their 4x Volvo Plaxton Panther Coaches ( YX16 reg)
Quote from: James4368 on May 14, 2016, 05:09:57 PM
Johnsons now have their 4x Volvo Plaxton Panther Coaches ( YX16 reg)
Four new Volvo B11R Plaxton Panther coaches have just been delivered. Two are 49-seater 'Club Class', with
extended leg room and the other two are 53-seaters.
New & Finalised List:
YX16NYA ® 05/16, chassis no: YV3T2U822GA178308
YX16NYB ® 05/16, chassis no: YV3T2U820GA178310
YX16NYC ® 05/16, chassis no: YV3T2U822GA178213
YX16NYD ® 05/16, chassis no: YV3T2U827GA178224
No new buses for the new services x70 will use 1 bus from x20 & 77 omilinks
Quote from: Solo1 on May 27, 2016, 06:55:53 AM
No new buses for the new services x70 will use 1 bus from x20 & 77 omilinks
77 omnilinks is a lot of buses to use
Quote from: Lukeee on May 27, 2016, 08:29:22 AM
77 omnilinks is a lot of buses to use
It's 77 omilinks, they're smaller than the Omnilinks
Quote from: Tony on May 27, 2016, 08:37:43 AM
It's 77 omilinks, they're smaller than the Omnilinks
Scanias answer to the short wheel base enviro ;)
One journey on the X20 is shown on the leaflet as calling at Stratford Train Station - does it actually serve one of the five new stops outside the station front?. Traveline doesn't show any different stops to the rest of the service and enquiries for buses to the station return all the services passing on the main road.
;
In fact recent cross town linkages at Stratford woud seem to reduce the chances of any operator choosing to serve them, except perhaps diversion of the X20.
Stratford park and ride liveried YJ11EJE was in Solihull on the S20 at about 10.15 a.m. today.
Quote from: Solo1 on May 27, 2016, 06:55:53 AM
No new buses for the new services x70 will use 1 bus from x20 & 77 omilinks
The 0755 X20 journey from Birmingham has been a single decker each day so far this week, so I presume the Double Decker previously used at this time is the one now used on the X70?
New Website!!
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/
how much is an all day ticket with Johnson's service X20 and 150 ?
Quote from: Demonstrator4698 on June 10, 2016, 01:14:50 PM
how much is an all day ticket with Johnson's service X20 and 150 ?
Tried looking before but doesn't appear Johnsons do an all day ticket, and as the 150 is Worcestershire and X20 Warwickshire you wouldn't be able to get a county wide ticket to cover the both either
There was at one point a day ticket, i believe it was in the region of £8
Solo > 150
Quote from: jc on June 10, 2016, 10:52:23 PM
There was at one point a day ticket, i believe it was in the region of £8
Very well hidden on Johnsons' website, under Bus Passes then Bus Pass Application Form (http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/userfiles/files/20162017_Application_Form.pdf (http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/userfiles/files/20162017_Application_Form.pdf)) is a mention that the day ticket is now £10 adult, £7 child.
07:55 X20 form Birmingham is unidentified Optare Solo today!
Quote from: Demonstrator4698 on June 10, 2016, 01:14:50 PM
how much is an all day ticket with Johnson's service X20 and 150 ?
£10 for all routes. Decent network now as well. Could do Brum-Stratford-Banbury-Stratford-Moreton-Stratford-Brum in a day I reckon!
£2.20 for Stratford Park & Ride Only
There's the Cotswold Discoverer which can be used on the 21-25 services to & from the Cotswolds, as well as buses and trains in the Cotswold district, all operators. Cotswold Rambler for £8.10 for 21 & 22 services all day.
On top of that you can use the Connecta ticket anywhere in Worcestershire (all operators) which includes Broadway to Evesham on 24 service, the 150 anywhere south of (but not including) Maypole, 350 to Worcester and 182/183 Lickey Hills service. That one's about 7 quid.
And of course the various Network tickets within the West Midlands boundary.
At least two plain white E200s running round, YY16YLL and YY16YLK both in and around Redditch, YLL on 0850 150 to Birmingham
Quote from: jc on June 24, 2016, 09:18:06 AM
At least two plain white E200s running round, YY16YLL and YY16YLK both in and around Redditch, YLL on 0850 150 to Birmingham
wonder what service they will end up.on when painted into Johnsons fleet livery
A Optare Tempo went down Edgbaston Park Road and Church Road in Edgbaston at about 13:25 today. Does anyone know what it was doing?
Quote from: 2206 on June 25, 2016, 05:25:47 PM
A Optare Tempo went down Edgbaston Park Road and Church Road in Edgbaston at about 13:25 today. Does anyone know what it was doing?
Driving down Edgbaston Park Road and Church Road in Edgbaston by sounds of it. :P
YJ11 EJG was on X20 this evening at 19:33 in Birmingham City Centre.
YJ59 GEY On the X20 yesterday
One of their Scanias was doing a rail replacement duty this afternoon, was odd seeing one on Yardley Road in Acocks Green!
Quote from: jc on June 24, 2016, 09:18:06 AM
At least two plain white E200s running round, YY16YLL and YY16YLK both in and around Redditch, YLL on 0850 150 to Birmingham
YLK was on the X20 on Saturday!
Quote from: P419 EJW on June 29, 2016, 08:16:09 PM
YJ11 EJG was on X20 this evening at 19:33 in Birmingham City Centre.
'EJE' was on the S20 yesterday
One of the white envrio's was on 150 yesterday when will these get painted & will they be for a certain service
like the 3 envrio's used on 87 from solihull to coventry &the 42 in coventry
Quote from: Solo1 on July 10, 2016, 09:21:52 AM
One of the white envrio's was on 150 yesterday when will these get painted & will they be for a certain service
like the 3 envrio's used on 87 from solihull to coventry &the 42 in coventry
Think they will be repainted quite soon but not sure what route they will be allocated to. Think they were just bought as extra buses were needed which explains why they are white and ex dealer stock.
Versa pulling out of Albert Street in Brum ~19:30 this evening, on the X20 I can only imagine
YJ11EJE is on the S20 today.
3 of the Scania Omnicities have been out today on the Cotswolds routes:
NNG on the 22
NNE on the 25/24
NNF on the 23
Quote from: Kevin on July 20, 2016, 07:37:18 PM
Versa pulling out of Albert Street in Brum ~19:30 this evening, on the X20 I can only imagine
1935 off Brum X20 is booked a Versa - comes off P & R and runs Stratford-Brum-Henley every day.
Green Omnicity on 150, doing the next departure from Birmingham. Looks odd!
Quote from: V89MOA on August 13, 2016, 12:00:32 PM
Green Omnicity on 150, doing the next departure from Birmingham. Looks odd!
do u mean the Warwick cc county link bus
Quote from: Solo1 on August 13, 2016, 01:21:22 PM
do u mean the Warwick cc county link bus
Yes, the one with a broken Led.
YY15 NJJ seen on the 87 down at the Meadow this afternoon.
Quote from: Sandy Lane on August 13, 2016, 05:53:55 PM
YY15 NJJ seen on the 87 down at the Meadow this afternoon.
@Sandy Lane . Enviro 200s are usual on 87. YY15NJF/NJJ/NJK are main allocations.
Quote from: James4368 on August 15, 2016, 07:49:22 AM
@Sandy Lane . Enviro 200s are usual on 87. YY15NJF/NJJ/NJK are main allocations.
With tempos used if the Enviro 200s are not available
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on August 15, 2016, 07:58:49 AM
With tempos used if the Enviro 200s are not available
Never seen a tempo on there, I thought it was an Optare Solo if no Enviro 200 is available.
Quote from: Adam 404 on August 15, 2016, 08:25:52 AM
Never seen a tempo on there, I thought it was an Optare Solo if no Enviro 200 is available.
I have quite a few times. 2 were on there on Thursday.
Versa YJ11EJG is on the S20 today
Quote from: jc on June 24, 2016, 09:18:06 AM
At least two plain white E200s running round, YY16YLL and YY16YLK both in and around Redditch, YLL on 0850 150 to Birmingham
YY16YLK has been painted into fleet livery and is today on the 77 service.
Link to Pictures:
Front: https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.472698472902091.1073742103.369276339910972/580155905489680/?type=3&theater
Back: https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.472698472902091.1073742103.369276339910972/580155928823011/?type=3&theater
YJ11 Versa on S20
Quote from: Adam 404 on August 23, 2016, 02:33:10 PM
YY16YLK has been painted into fleet livery and is today on the 77 service.
Link to Pictures:
Front: https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.472698472902091.1073742103.369276339910972/580155905489680/?type=3&theater
Back: https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.472698472902091.1073742103.369276339910972/580155928823011/?type=3&theater
The other one is at Paxton for RTC repairs
Which are the 2 regular buses on 77 service in Leamington spa
Quote from: Solo1 on August 25, 2016, 10:07:39 AM
Which are the 2 regular buses on 77 service in Leamington spa
Today's buses are YY16YLK and a solo but I would have thought it will be YY16YLK/YLL when YLL returns from Plaxtons.
YY16YLK now has all its vinyls applied. Will put photo link later
YJ11EJK is on the X20. In the City Centre at about 13:00.
Quote from: 2206 on September 01, 2016, 04:59:44 PM
YJ11EJK is on the X20. In the City Centre at about 13:00.
EJK or EJF?
I photographed EJF at 1 O'clock
http://wmbusphotos.com/Johnsons/yj11ejf.html
Quote from: Tony on September 01, 2016, 06:17:18 PM
EJK or EJF?
I photographed EJF at 1 O'clock
http://wmbusphotos.com/Johnsons/yj11ejf.html
EJK. Can't have been EJF as it was the 13:20 from the City Centre which arrives in Stratford at 14:45.
Quote from: 2206 on September 01, 2016, 06:22:59 PM
EJK. Can't have been EJF as it was the 13:20 from the City Centre which arrives in Stratford at 14:45.
Sorry EJF did the 13:20 from City and there is the photograph to prove it
PD0000226/45 - JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Stratford upon Avon, Warwickshire and Banbury, Oxfordshire given service number 270/269/X70 effective from 23-Oct-2016.
PD0000226/54 - JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between BRIDGETOWN - STRATFORD - ON - AVON and STRATFORD TOWN CENTRE given service number 222/221 effective from 23-Oct-2016.
PD0000226/55 - JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between MORETON - IN - MARSH and STRATFORD - ON - AVON given service number 21/22 effective from 23-Oct-2016.
Wonder if diamond will take on the services johnsons are withdrawing unless they are going to merge some of the services together
Quote from: Solo1 on September 05, 2016, 11:00:44 AM
Wonder if diamond will take on the services johnsons are withdrawing unless they are going to merge some of the services together
I'd have thought that they are contracts and have potentially been lost, Diamond did cross my mind.
More services withdrawn PD0000226/55 - JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between MORETON - IN - MARSH and STRATFORD - ON - AVON given service number 21/22 effective from 23-Oct-2016.
PD0000226/66 - JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Whichford and Stratford On Avon given service number 23/23A/23E effective from 23-Oct-2016.
PD0000226/114 - JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Redditch Bus Station and Worcester Bus Station given service number 350 effective from 23-Oct-2016.
PD0000226/120 - JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Stratford upon Avaon and Evesham Bus Station given service number 24/25 effective from 23-Oct-2016.
PD0000226/122 - JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Stratford upon Avon and Solihull given service number S20/S20A effective from 23-Oct-2016.
PD0000226/129 - JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Stratford upon Avon and Banbury given service number 50A effective from 23-Oct-2016.
With the services been withdrawn it only leaves johnsons with a few services wonder what the plan is as they have a good fleet of buses I think only leaves 11 services
Quote from: Solo1 on September 05, 2016, 11:07:21 AM
With the services been withdrawn it only leaves johnsons with a few services wonder what the plan is as they have a good fleet of buses I think only leaves x20 & 77
Maybe they might be thinking of starting bus services in Kidderminster under the whittles name ?
Quote from: Cedric on September 05, 2016, 11:12:31 AM
Maybe they might be thinking of starting bus services in Kidderminster under the whittles name ?
if so why didn't they take on the services at the time they brought whittles I instead of letting diamond run the services
Quote from: Winston on September 05, 2016, 11:02:33 AM
I'd have thought that they are contracts and have potentially been lost, Diamond did cross my mind.
Wonder if First might have a go at the 350?
Are they just 56-day cancellation of expiring tenders?
Probably just a change of license so they'll be registered under a different
Quote from: DiamondDart on September 05, 2016, 12:01:24 PM
Probably just a change of license so they'll be registered under a different
PD0000226/87 - JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS
Variation Accepted: Operating between Stratford-on-Avon and Birmingham given service number X20 effective from 23-Oct-2016. To amend Route, Stopping Places and Timetable.
PD0000226/131 - JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Stratford upon Avon
Finish Point: Banbury
Via: Kineton, Tysoe
Service Number: 6
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 23-OCT-2016
Other Details: Monday to Saturday
PD0000226/132 - JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Stratford upon Avon Park and Ride
Finish Point: Moreton in Marsh
Via: Chipping Campden
Service Number: 1
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 23-OCT-2016
Other Details: Monday to Saturday
PD0000226/133 - JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Stratford Park and Ride
Finish Point: Banbury Bus Station
Via: Shipston on Stour
Service Number: 3
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 23-OCT-2016
Other Details: Monday to Saturday
PD0000226/134 - JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Stratford Park and Ride
Finish Point: Trinity Mead/ Bridgetown
Via: Stratford upon Avon
Service Number: 4
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 23-OCT-2016
Other Details: Monday to Saturday
PD0000226/135 - JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Stratford Interchange
Finish Point: Banbury Bus Station
Via: Ettington
Service Number: X7
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 23-OCT-2016
Other Details: Monday to Saturday
PD0000226/136 - JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Stratford upon Avon
Finish Point: Stratford upon Avon
Via: Justins Avenue
Service Number: 5
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 23-OCT-2016
Other Details: Monday to Saturday
PD0000226/105 - JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS
Variation Accepted: Operating between Birmingham, Moor Street and Redditch Bus Station given service number 150 effective from 30-Oct-2016. To amend Route, Stopping Places and Timetable.
PD0000226/137 - JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Redditch Bus Station
Finish Point: Worcester Bus Station
Via: Alexandra Hospital
Service Number: 150
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 30-OCT-2016
Other Details: Monday to Saturday
bit confused with these 2 seams like there are going to be 2 services numbered 150, unless the Redditch to Worcester should read 350
Quote from: Cedric on September 08, 2016, 10:53:57 AM
PD0000226/105 - JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS
Variation Accepted: Operating between Birmingham, Moor Street and Redditch Bus Station given service number 150 effective from 30-Oct-2016. To amend Route, Stopping Places and Timetable.
PD0000226/137 - JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Redditch Bus Station
Finish Point: Worcester Bus Station
Via: Alexandra Hospital
Service Number: 150
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 30-OCT-2016
Other Details: Monday to Saturday
bit confused with these 2 seams like there are going to be 2 services numbered 150, unless the Redditch to Worcester should read 350
Maybe it's because they have merged the 150/350 into 1 route but they are registered separately as there is a driver change at Redditch similar to the Stagecoach X18 which is registered in 2 parts (Coventry-Stratford and Stratford-Evesham). I'm guessing it will be only some journeys that carry on to Worcester but they may be planning more journeys than before to Worcester
PD0000226/133 - JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Stratford Park and Ride and Banbury Bus Station given service number 3/3W effective from 24-Oct-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.
PD0000226/138 - JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Shipston On Stour
Finish Point: Banbury Bus Station
Via: Lower Bailes
Service Number: 3
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 24-OCT-2016
Other Details: Monday to Saturday
Quote from: Solo1 on September 05, 2016, 11:15:53 AM
if so why didn't they take on the services at the time they brought whittles I instead of letting diamond run the services
Because all the Whittle bus services work had started being retendered by EYMS just before they put Whittle up for sale if I remember correctly.
YJ55 BMU on the X20 today.
Full details of changes, including new timetables, at http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/bus-changes-from-241016/ (http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/bus-changes-from-241016/)
Quote from: Roy on September 16, 2016, 11:16:20 AM
Full details of changes, including new timetables, at http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/bus-changes-from-241016/ (http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/bus-changes-from-241016/)
One long route from brum to Worcester!!
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 16, 2016, 12:19:27 PM
One long route from brum to Worcester!!
Only a few minutes longer than the 144.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on September 16, 2016, 08:18:41 PM
Only a few minutes longer than the 144.
144 takes 2 hours, 150 takes 2 h17mins
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 16, 2016, 08:45:19 PM
144 takes 2 hours, 150 takes 2 h17mins
144 takes 1hr 45 mins so significantly less than 2hr 17. To be honest, very few people catch the 144 direct from Worcester to brum so I doubt many would catch this either. It is immediate stops where you get the trade. Really who is going to want to sit on a bus for that long when you could catch a train and be there in 45 mins?
Johnsons have a new bus:Enviro 200 SN66WKA
Not sure if they own in or if it's just on hire etc. (Not my photos)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/westmids-buspics/29252113614/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/thespian/29565017470/in/photolist-LyUJfs-M3yrEw
YY16YLK is on S20
Bus Roadshow: http://johnsons.vertouk.com/news/57/bus-roadshows--october-half/
Plain white E200 on the last x20 to leave Birmingham
SN66WKA is on University of Birmingham shuttles today. On Edgbaston Park Road by Somerset Road at 13:20.
Noteworthy: YN63BYO, a Scania Omnilink was on the X20 today.
Here it is along with YN63BYP which is on the 150 service. - https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.472698472902091.1073742103.369276339910972/604361949735742/?type=3&theater
Quote from: Adam 404 on October 15, 2016, 06:53:00 PM
Noteworthy: YN63BYO, a Scania Omnilink was on the X20 today.
Here it is along with YN63BYP which is on the 150 service. - https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.472698472902091.1073742103.369276339910972/495950933910178/?type=3&theater
the link brings up a coach
Quote from: Solo1 on October 16, 2016, 11:36:09 AM
the link brings up a coach
Thanks for pointing that out. Here is the correct link. https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.472698472902091.1073742103.369276339910972/604361949735742/?type=3&theater
New addition to the fleet
SN66WJZ Enviro 200
SN66WJZ and YT13HKZ are on the X20 today
The 16 reg envrio Is on 150 left city at 1517
Additions 28505 (YN56NNG) and 28503 (YN56NNE) have been on the 77 service today in Countylinks livery as seen below.
28505 (YN56NNG) - https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.472698472902091.1073742103.369276339910972/611783675660236/?type=3&theater
28503 (YN56NNE) - https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.472698472902091.1073742103.369276339910972/611792362326034/?type=3&theater
How many envrios do johnsons now have I make 7 3 15r
Reg for 87 /42 service 2 16 reg 2 66 reg
"Henley-in-Arden-based Johnsons Coaches have once again opted for Scania with an order for five Scania Interlink coaches. Of these, four will be based on Scania's K 410 EB4x2 chassis and one on a K 410 EB6x2*4 chassis.
John and Peter Johnson, the company's Directors said, "We have been very pleased with the overall performance of our four Scania OmniExpress coaches over the last three years and we were immediately impressed with the new version of this coach, the new Interlink Finesse. Therefore we are delighted that we've been able to place an order for five new coaches for delivery in April 2017, which includes four 12.8-metre vehicles, two in 49 seat 'club class' and two in 53 seat executive specification, including wheelchair facilities; plus another 14-metre 63 seater executive vehicle. Scania's well proven aftersales, parts and support services and its two year repair and maintenance package made our buying decision quite easy in the end." "
http://www.scania.com/uk/en/home/experience-scania/news-and-events/news/2016/11/eurobusexpo2016.html
YT13HKZ, I think, is on the X20. It did the 14:40 from Birmingham.
At least two Omnis and a versa on the x20 today
Slightly bowled today at Banbury after missing a shot of a Scania arriving on a 3 and waited for it to come out, only for YJ57YCL which arrived on the 6 to form the 3 out.
https://cbwmagazine.com/johnsons-orders-scanias-and-yutongs-for-2017/
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news/63/new-coach-investment-for-2017/
Service Cancellations
PD0000226/63 JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS - Operating between STRATFORD on AVON and MORETON MORRELL given service number 153,158 effective from 15 January 2017.
PD0000226/56 JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS - Operating between REDDITCH and STRATFORD - ON - AVON given service number 217 effective from 15 January 2017.
PD0000226/61 JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS - Operating between KIDDERMINSTER GENERAL HOSPITAL and REDDITCH, ALEXANDRA HOSPITAL given service number 143 / 333 effective from 15 January 2017.
PD0000226/28 JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS - Operating between Warwickshire, Lapworth, Station Lane and Arden School, Knowle (Station Road) given service number 118 effective from 15 January 2017.
PD0000226/59 JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS - Operating between BANBURY and HENLEY IN ARDEN given service number 6B effective from 15 January 2017.
PD0000226/64 JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS - Operating between Clifford Chambers and Stratford Upon Avon given service number 515 effective from 15 January 2017.
PD0000226/97 JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS - Operating between Clifford Chambers and Stratford On Avon given service number 250 effective from 15 January 2017.
PD0000226/96 JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS - Operating between Clifford Hill and Stratford On Avon given service number 251 effective from 15 January 2017.
PD0000226/95 JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS - Operating between Welford and Alcester given service number 249 effective from 15 January 2017.
PD0000226/98 JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS - Operating between Studley and Leamington Spa given service number 561 / 560 effective from 15 January 2017.
PD0000226/125 JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS - Operating between Warks College Leamington and Warls College Henley given service number 61 effective from 15 January 2017.
PD0000226/113 JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS - Operating between STRATFORD-ON-AVON and HATTON PARK given service number 256 effective from 15 January 2017.
PD0000226/108 JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS - Operating between Farnborough, The Haypool and Stratford On Avon given service number 272 effective from 15 January 2017.
PD0000226/103 JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS - Operating between Fiveways and Leamington Spa given service number 561 / 320 / 524 / 59 effective from 15 January 2017.
PD0000226/107 JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS - Operating between Birmingham, Queens Hospital/Bath Row and Birmingham University, East Gate given service number Campus Shuttle effective from 15 January 2017.
PD0000226/89 JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS - Operating between Five Ways and Stratford On Avon given service number 255 effective from 15 January 2017.
PD0000226/85 JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS - Operating between Kenilworth, Leyes Lane and Malthouse Lane given service number 556 effective from 15 January 2017.
PD0000226/75 JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS - Operating between Kenilworth and Cannon Park given service number 540 / 541 / 543 effective from 15 January 2017.
PD0000226/61 JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS - Operating between KIDDERMINSTER GENERAL HOSPITAL and REDDITCH, ALEXANDRA HOSPITAL given service number 143 / 333 effective from 15 January 2017.
this service ran in first days a long long time ago and was only about 2 late journies a 1 early journey that johnsons ran.
Quote from: Cedric on December 02, 2016, 04:06:04 PM
PD0000226/61 JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD, LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-IN-ARDEN, B95 5QS - Operating between KIDDERMINSTER GENERAL HOSPITAL and REDDITCH, ALEXANDRA HOSPITAL given service number 143 / 333 effective from 15 January 2017.
this service ran in first days a long long time ago and was only about 2 late journies a 1 early journey that johnsons ran.
Registration history says it commenced 4 September 2006 which sounds about right, as I can remember the 333, but it was a long time ago! But when did it actually stop operating? There was a revision registered from 24 Feb 2007:
PD0000226/61 2 Cancelled Manual 17 Nov 2016 15 Jan 2017
PD0000226/61 1 Registered Manual 28 Dec 2006 24 Feb 2007
PD0000226/61 0 Registered Manual 14 Aug 2006 04 Sep 2006
Quote from: D10 on December 02, 2016, 08:32:55 PM
Registration history says it commenced 4 September 2006 which sounds about right, as I can remember the 333, but it was a long time ago! But when did it actually stop operating? There was a revision registered from 24 Feb 2007:
PD0000226/61 2 Cancelled Manual 17 Nov 2016 15 Jan 2017
PD0000226/61 1 Registered Manual 28 Dec 2006 24 Feb 2007
PD0000226/61 0 Registered Manual 14 Aug 2006 04 Sep 2006
can not remember when the johnsons service finshed a never exactly saw one the first service was numbered x33 which became the x3 , there was a sunday service numbered 333 or 334 can just think which number it was which ran from Redditch to Kidderminster, and in Kidderminster it change to service 300 which called in to Kidderminster hospital (latter changed to stopping outside and then on to Worcester royal via bewdley and stourport which stop about 4 or 5 years ago
Wonder which operator will pick up the withdrawn services
Quote from: Solo1 on December 03, 2016, 09:28:46 AM
Wonder which operator will pick up the withdrawn services
With the exception of the 143/333 - which as already stated finished a few years ago, circa 2010 - all the withdrawn routes are school services. No doubt a number of other operators will pick up the work.
Are they withdrawn or just becoming "closed door" so that accesible vehicles aren't required?
SN66WJZ is on the 150 today.
A Optare Tempo is on the X20 today.
A Optare Tempo is on the X20 today.
Two 17 plate Yutong coaches have arrived this week.
https://www.facebook.com/JohnsonsCoaches/photos/ms.c.eJxFjsENADEIwzY6FUpC2H~_xSkVHv5ZjxRApohY8tuf~_rAFotaoyfsC6Rj3QBgekhCRNY6gnmGhcI3wmHdU01D~;0fqAndgCOvSLL.bps.a.1547865495243314.1073741855.170881406275070/1547865661909964/?type=3&theater
"Due to popular demand for slightly smaller coaches, these brand new midi coaches are ideal for groups not quite needing one of our full-sized luxury coaches.
The 35 seat midi coaches come equipped with USB ports for charging mobile devises, leather seats, climate control and auido and visual equipment.
Although reduced in capacity, these fabulous vehicles still have ample luggage space and offer a smooth quiet drive."
Beat me to it...
The new 35 Ying Tong Ying Ton Ying Ton Diddle eye Poh's (Sounds like something from the Goons!!) are...
YG17 SVC & YG17 SVD
Ping Pong Piddle High Po was aTwo Ronnies joke.
I must be a little older than you as the Ying Tong song I was referring to was definitely made famous by the Goons.
Anyway they look nice vehicles.
Not entirely sure on what is happening here...
PD0000226/132 Cancelled
JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD
Route: Stratford upon Avon Park and Ride to Moreton in Marsh via Chipping Campden
Service number: 1 (2)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017
PD0000226/138 Cancelled
JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD
Route: Shipston On Stour to Banbury Bus Station via Lower Bailes
Service number: 3
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017
PD0000226/133 Cancelled
JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD
Route: Stratford Park and Ride to Banbury Bus Station via Shipston on Stour
Service number: 3 (3W)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017
PD0000226/76 Cancelled
JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD
Route: Lillington to Kenilworth
Service number: 534
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017
PD0000226/73 Cancelled
JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD
Route: Kenilworth to Coventry
Service number: 539
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017
PD0000226/106 Cancelled
JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD
Route: Coventry to Rugby
Service number: 580
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017
PD0000226/136 Cancelled
JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD
Route: Stratford upon Avon to Stratford upon Avon via Justins Avenue
Service number: 5
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017
PD0000226/134 Cancelled
JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD
Route: Stratford Park and Ride to Trinity Mead/ Bridgetown via Stratford upon Avon
Service number: 4
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017
Quote from: Adam 404 on March 14, 2017, 06:39:06 PM
Not entirely sure on what is happening here...
PD0000226/132 Cancelled
JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD
Route: Stratford upon Avon Park and Ride to Moreton in Marsh via Chipping Campden
Service number: 1 (2)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017
PD0000226/138 Cancelled
JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD
Route: Shipston On Stour to Banbury Bus Station via Lower Bailes
Service number: 3
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017
PD0000226/133 Cancelled
JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD
Route: Stratford Park and Ride to Banbury Bus Station via Shipston on Stour
Service number: 3 (3W)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017
PD0000226/76 Cancelled
JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD
Route: Lillington to Kenilworth
Service number: 534
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017
PD0000226/73 Cancelled
JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD
Route: Kenilworth to Coventry
Service number: 539
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017
PD0000226/106 Cancelled
JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD
Route: Coventry to Rugby
Service number: 580
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017
PD0000226/136 Cancelled
JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD
Route: Stratford upon Avon to Stratford upon Avon via Justins Avenue
Service number: 5
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017
PD0000226/134 Cancelled
JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD
Route: Stratford Park and Ride to Trinity Mead/ Bridgetown via Stratford upon Avon
Service number: 4
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Jun 2017
Does anyone have any further info on this please?
The work is up for retender.
Wonder if diamond will put in a tender for some of the services in stratford as they run the town service & 2other services or stagecoach might have a go As well. As Johnson re tendering
Quote from: Solo1 on March 23, 2017, 06:21:57 AM
Wonder if diamond will put in a tender for some of the services in stratford as they run the town service & 2other services or stagecoach might have a go As well. As Johnson re tendering
That is a rather large chunk of work lost by Johnsons if this is the case! I would be surprised if they lost all the Stratford work particularly, the 539 & 580 less so as they are a fair way from Henley In Arden I can imagine.
Johnsons currently have demonstrator Yutong ZK6126HGA YH66 VMO on loan at the moment. Saw it on the X20 earlier in Birmingham.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on March 27, 2017, 07:18:05 PM
Johnsons currently have demonstrator Yutong ZK6126HGA YH66 VMO on loan at the moment. Saw it on the X20 earlier in Birmingham.
Does anyone know whether it'll be on there tomorrow?
Quote from: Michael Bevan on March 27, 2017, 07:18:05 PM
Johnsons currently have demonstrator Yutong ZK6126HGA YH66 VMO on loan at the moment. Saw it on the X20 earlier in Birmingham.
Looks very weird doesn't it.
Heavily tinted windows
On Saturday 25/3 I saw one of the 'Bard Bus' deckers on the X7 in Banbury. Is this a regular working?
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on March 28, 2017, 08:05:38 AM
On Saturday 25/3 I saw one of the 'Bard Bus' deckers on the X7 in Banbury. Is this a regular working?
yes its regular mate
OK, ta.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/e569Ar
White SN65 OHK seen on 539 yesterday.
An Optare Tempo was on the X20 today. On Carrs Lane at 16:45.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on March 27, 2017, 07:18:05 PM
Johnsons currently have demonstrator Yutong ZK6126HGA YH66 VMO on loan at the moment. Saw it on the X20 earlier in Birmingham.
It's on the X20 again today. 11:20 departure from Birmingham.
If you're planning to visit Stratford on Avon, don't bother using the park and ride service. For the second time in the last few days, the 1851 number 1 bus from Bridge St to the park and ride has left 4 minutes early and would not stop for me hailing it as I was walking to the bus stop at the time.
Then the next bus, number 4 at 1906, turned up at 1905 and turned his engine off. When asked at 1910 why the driver, reading his newspaper, hadn't left at 1906 like he was supposed to - his answer was literally "I go when I'm ready mate". Excellent customer service, my experience of Johnsons so far reminds me of Western Greyhound towards the end, such as disappointment in the general attitude.
All I want to do is get to and from work...
What's the VOSA tolerance for early/late running?
Quote from: StourportSam on April 11, 2017, 07:19:50 PM
If you're planning to visit Stratford on Avon, don't bother using the park and ride service. For the second time in the last few days, the 1851 number 1 bus from Bridge St to the park and ride has left 4 minutes early and would not stop for me hailing it as I was walking to the bus stop at the time.
Then the next bus, number 4 at 1906, turned up at 1905 and turned his engine off. When asked at 1910 why the driver, reading his newspaper, hadn't left at 1906 like he was supposed to - his answer was literally "I go when I'm ready mate". Excellent customer service, my experience of Johnsons so far reminds me of Western Greyhound towards the end, such as disappointment in the general attitude.
All I want to do is get to and from work...
What's the VOSA tolerance for early/late running?
You should email Pete Johnson
@StourportSam I have his email if you require?
Johnson's have made a great fleet list including all of the buses names: http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/contentfiles/files/Fleet%20List%20April%202017(1).pdf
@Tony , you may find this useful as well.
Quote from: Adam 404 on April 21, 2017, 09:31:11 PM
Johnson's have made a great fleet list including all of the buses names: http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/contentfiles/files/Fleet%20List%20April%202017(1).pdf
@Tony , you may find this useful as well.
Not all the buses in the fleet are on there. The E200 are missing. So are YT13HKZ and YN63BYP.
Quote from: 2206 on April 21, 2017, 09:52:14 PM
Not all the buses in the fleet are on there. The E200 are missing. So are YT13HKZ and YN63BYP.
I did notice that, but all the names are listed on there, which the buses you have listed do not have, probably the reason why it is not featured in their list.
One of the Bard's buses on Redditch rail replacement today - all DD because of the Villa game perhaps.?
For anyone interested there's a Yutong demonstrator in plain white livery on the X20 today. Looked a bit out of place in Sparkhill!
How many times has the demo been used on x20.
How long is demonstrator here for?
SN65 OJA Bard's Bus X20 branded double decker on the 4 park and ride service in Stratford this afternoon - from what I have seen this is very rare.
Quote from: StourportSam on April 11, 2017, 07:19:50 PM
If you're planning to visit Stratford on Avon, don't bother using the park and ride service. For the second time in the last few days, the 1851 number 1 bus from Bridge St to the park and ride has left 4 minutes early and would not stop for me hailing it as I was walking to the bus stop at the time.
Then the next bus, number 4 at 1906, turned up at 1905 and turned his engine off. When asked at 1910 why the driver, reading his newspaper, hadn't left at 1906 like he was supposed to - his answer was literally "I go when I'm ready mate". Excellent customer service, my experience of Johnsons so far reminds me of Western Greyhound towards the end, such as disappointment in the general attitude.
All I want to do is get to and from work...
What's the VOSA tolerance for early/late running?
Customer Service is one of the main selling points at Johnsons, to which the majority of drivers adhere to. It's a bit unfair to tarnish a whole company for the actions of individuals, especially on a public forum. I've had bad experiences with most operators, but enough positive ones to continue using buses when the need arises. Most of the Johnsons drivers are lovely.
No idea why the 1851 would go early as it would show up on the vehicle tracker, which is a huge risk to take for a driver. As for the 1906, the driver probably waited to leave deliberately late to avoid early running at Wood Street. Wood Street bus stop becomes a taxi rank at 1900. At that time of evening, it takes about a minute from Bridge Street to Wood Street, which on the timetable gets 5 minutes. The driver should have explained that.
Hybrid Versa YJ11 EJE was on the 42/87 today. Took me by surprise in Solihull earlier.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 05, 2017, 10:46:56 PM
Hybrid Versa YJ11 EJE was on the 42/87 today. Took me by surprise in Solihull earlier.
That certainly is noteworthy. Not only is it unusual (if it has ever happened before) but also they seem to be for sale - see http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/used-coach-sales/10/5-x-hybrid-versa-bus-2011-/.
There may be more variety on the X20 on Saturdays, from now on. There were changes to most Stratford area services yesterday (Monday 5 June), among them a new separate Park & Ride service which is due to see double deck operation on Saturdays and Bank Holidays - see here: http://news.warwickshire.gov.uk/blog/2017/05/26/warwickshire-county-council-announce-changes-to-stratford-park-and-ride/.
Both buses on the P+R were E200s today.
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/used-coach-sales/10/5-x-hybrid-versa-bus-2011-/
Is the x20 being curtailed to Solihull soon? I read it somewhere
Quote from: monkeyjoe on June 11, 2017, 08:31:36 AM
Is the x20 being curtailed to Solihull soon? I read it somewhere
they used to run a S20 from solihull to stratford but thats now withdrawn from the
Is the demonstrator still here?
Quote from: Solo1 on June 11, 2017, 12:02:39 PM
they used to run a S20 from solihull to stratford but thats now withdrawn from the
Yes most journeys are going into Solihull so I believe partly due to falling passenger numbers and the demonstrator has gone
Quote from: 598 on June 14, 2017, 01:38:53 AM
Yes most journeys are going into Solihull so I believe partly due to falling passenger numbers and the demonstrator has gone
i adked johnsons if the x20.was changing & was told its not
One of the Hybrid Versas was out on the 87 in Coventry yesterday
PD0000226/87 Registered
JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD
Route: Stratford-on-Avon to Birmingham via Henley in Arden-Hockley Heath-Shirley-Hall Green
Service number: X20 (X20A)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Sep 2017
PD0000226/105 Registered
JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD
Route: Birmingham, Moor Street to Redditch Bus Station
Service number: 150
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Sep 2017
PD0000226/137 Registered
JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD
Route: Redditch Bus Station to Worcester Bus Station via Alexandra Hospital
Service number: 150
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 04 Sep 2017
PD0000226/141 Cancelled
JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD
Route: Coventry, Pool Meadow to Rugby, Clifton Road via Coventry, Ryton, Stretton, Birdingbury, Rugby
Service number: 580
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Sep 2017
PD0000226/142 Cancelled
JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD
Route: Coventry, Pool Meadow to Kenilworth, Malthouse Lane via Baginton, Stoneleigh, Kenilworth
Service number: 539
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Sep 2017
Quote from: Adam 404 on July 04, 2017, 08:40:16 PM
PD0000226/87 Registered
JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD
Route: Stratford-on-Avon to Birmingham via Henley in Arden-Hockley Heath-Shirley-Hall Green
Service number: X20 (X20A)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Sep 2017
Whats happening to the X20? Is it going to serve Solihull instead of Birmingham City Centre as was said above?
YY16YLL and SN58FWL are on the X20 today.
Quote from: 2206 on July 08, 2017, 02:41:45 PM
Whats happening to the X20? Is it going to serve Solihull instead of Birmingham City Centre as was said above?
YY16YLL and SN58GWL are on the X20 today.
Isn't the X20 subsidised by Warwickshire County Council, and therefore has to run the full route? Or was the funding dropped when Johnsons took over back in 2009?
Quote from: MW on July 08, 2017, 05:22:00 PM
Isn't the X20 subsidised by Warwickshire County Council, and therefore has to run the full route? Or was the funding dropped when Johnsons took over back in 2009?
Just seen the timetable from September on the Johnsons website and its still going to Birmingham, so the rumors of it going to Solihull instead are wrong.
Do Wawrickshire County Council subsidise the X20 in Birmingham?
The change is the Sunday service will be withdrawn from September.
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/contentfiles/files/X20%20Timetable%20from%20September%202017%201.pdf
I believe the X20 is mainly, perhaps totally commercial. Warwickshire did financially support it for several years but Johnsons decided to go commercial a little while ago.
As 2206 says, the only change to the X20 in September will be the withdrawal of the Sunday service - which will mean that Johnsons will no longer run buses on Sundays.
It cant be all that busy if Johnsons are withdrawing the sunday service wonder if any other operator will step in to run the sunday service
Quote from: Solo1 on July 09, 2017, 08:54:49 AM
It cant be all that busy if Johnsons are withdrawing the sunday service wonder if any other operator will step in to run the sunday service
If they're withdrawing the Sunday service due to a lack of patronage, I doubt any other operator will step in to run Sunday journeys.
Quote from: Stu on July 09, 2017, 10:23:39 AM
If they're withdrawing the Sunday service due to a lack of patronage, I doubt any other operator will step in to run Sunday journeys.
unless they run coaches on sunday they.have to open just for x20 so wil save money onthe staff thatvare there on sunday 1 office /engineer ehetecas an operator thzt runs buses on sunday could do it
Quote from: Solo1 on July 09, 2017, 10:49:52 AM
unless they run coaches on sunday they.have to open just for x20 so wil save money onthe staff thatvare there on sunday 1 office /engineer ehetecas an operator thzt runs buses on sunday could do it
I would imagine Sunday is quite a busy day for them on their coach side
Looking at the x20 the bank holiday mondays are busy but sundays are not so good. Obviously the bank holiday monday service wouldn't work unless you ran sundays as well & there arent enough of those to make it viable.
It's the 539 that i'm concerned for. Quite a pleasant run & I've been on it several times whether busy or empty. It's another run that i'd place in the 'nice day out' category, as I've invariably been the only fare payer on board.
I have my doubts that it will continue.
Quote from: dave47549 (no longer NEL111P) on July 09, 2017, 09:37:38 PM
It's the 539 that i'm concerned for. Quite a pleasant run & I've been on it several times whether busy or empty. It's another run that i'd place in the 'nice day out' category, as I've invariably been the only fare payer on board.
I have my doubts that it will continue.
Are the 539 & 580 not tendered routes? Could just be changing operators?
Quote from: Winston on July 09, 2017, 11:17:18 PM
Are the 539 & 580 not tendered routes? Could just be changing operators?
Yes, & I can't imagine much cash gets taken. I hope they remain (if only for selfish reasons, the 539 to Baginton for a mooch around the airport, before a walk via the soon-to-close Electric Railway 'museum', 'plane museum & nookies to Toll Bar End for a 580 back is a pleasant way to pass half a day) but...
Quote from: dave47549 (no longer NEL111P) on July 09, 2017, 11:35:36 PM
Yes, & I can't imagine much cash gets taken. I hope they remain (if only for selfish reasons, the 539 to Baginton for a mooch around the airport, before a walk via the soon-to-close Electric Railway 'museum', 'plane museum & nookies to Toll Bar End for a 580 back is a pleasant way to pass half a day) but...
Haven't both routes been around for a good few years?
Quote from: Winston on July 09, 2017, 11:43:48 PM
Haven't both routes been around for a good few years?
Certainly, in some form or other. I first rode to Baginton about 27 years ago when the tendered route was run by Heyfordian, & there was Midland Red South history prior to that. I'm thinking more in terms of 'austerity', will the returns justify a new contract? Time, or the next few n&p's, will tell.
Quote from: dave47549 (no longer NEL111P) on July 09, 2017, 11:56:32 PM
Certainly, in some form or other. I first rode to Baginton about 27 years ago when the tendered route was run by Heyfordian, & there was Midland Red South history prior to that. I'm thinking more in terms of 'austerity', will the returns justify a new contract? Time, or the next few n&p's, will tell.
Would I be right in thinking that WMT once ran 539 from Coventry?
Quote from: Winston on July 10, 2017, 12:05:12 AM
Would I be right in thinking that WMT once ran 539 from Coventry?
Possibly, although i'm not aware of it. I know of Midland Red South, Heyfordian, A Line, Midland Red South (again) & Johnson's, there were probably more.
The Baginton stops still displayed the MRS paraphernalia a couple of weeks ago. Which is apt, as they were carrying MRS timetables etc when I first visited via Heyfordian.
Quote from: Winston on July 10, 2017, 12:05:12 AM
Would I be right in thinking that WMT once ran 539 from Coventry?
Not actually the 539, but WMT did run the 537 in the same area - between Burton Green, Kenilworth, Leamington and Warwick Schools (on Warks CC tender) from 1986 until around the turn of the century IIRC. Although only really a schools service, it appeared on Centro's Coventry bus map for many years - which may be why it stuck in your mind, Winston.
Quote from: dave47549 (no longer NEL111P) on July 10, 2017, 12:36:59 AM
I know of Midland Red South, Heyfordian, A Line, Midland Red South (again) & Johnson's, there were probably more.
Having kept notes of bus services in Warwickshire for quite a while, I believe that's the full set - and you've got the order of operators spot on!
The 539 and 580 are tendered services, and despite austerity I would be surprised if they do not continue. Remember that Stratford - Banbury services 6 and 7 will transfer to Stagecoach Oxfordshire on Warks CC tender later this month. One Saturday about three years ago I did Coventry - Rugby and return on the 580, and I think loadings may have just about hit double figures. BTW the loop at Ryton was very tight, and I guess that's why the 580 and 539 always seem to be run by Solos.
The 539/580 will be operated by igo from 4/9.
Quote from: dave47549 (no longer NEL111P) on July 27, 2017, 12:26:41 PM
The 539/580 will be operated by igo from 4/9.
A little out of their usual operating area.
That explains why Johnson's currently have approx 12 buses for sale
Quote from: Winston on July 27, 2017, 12:28:44 PM
A little out of their usual operating area.
That explains why Johnson's currently have approx 12 buses for sale
The 182/3 services in the Bromsgrove area have also passed to Woosh, the Solos Johnsons were selling have sold according to BCB, it's the Versa Hybrids and Tempos that don't seem to be shifting.
Quote from: PM on July 27, 2017, 01:23:24 PM
The 182/3 services in the Bromsgrove area have also passed to Woosh, the Solos Johnsons were selling have sold according to BCB, it's the Versa Hybrids and Tempos that don't seem to be shifting.
I thought those services may have gone back to Diamond.
Quote from: Winston on July 27, 2017, 02:16:44 PM
I thought those services may have gone back to Diamond.
Indeed, Woosh now seem to be running: 9/9A Kidderminster-Caunsall, 16 Stourport-Bewdley, 147 Halesowen-Catshill, 182/3 Bromsgrove/Lickey-Redditch. I guess Johnsons used a Solo on the routes?
Their 150 is being trimmed back slightly too, last journey will now only run to Maypole from Redditch from September.
"From September 2017, Johnsons Excelbus have a range of Swift cards called 150 City Connect available on the 150 Birmingham to Worcester via Redditch service."
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/swift/
Johnsons are introducing a new Stratford Excel Zone (Low fare zone). New low fare tickets for Stratford Upon Avon Town Centre. From September 4th 2017.
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/stratford-excel-tickets/
Unlimited Travel, Daily, Weekly and monthly tickets.
New prices, valid from 4th September 2017. Valid on all services not including Park and Ride.
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/bus-passes/
there was a johnsons van with hazard on parked in the layby opposite the WMSP in bewdley last night around 7pm no sign of a driver or a coach
earlier in the afternoon a johnsons coach was going through bewdley. have seen one regularly , just lately doing school trips from the school around the corner from me with a whittles driver driving, have any be transferred over to kidderminster
It was nice of Johnsons to completely block all of the bus stops on The Priory Queensway this morning with at least 10 of their coaches parked up. Our inspector didn't look too happy either
Makes a change from NX stand blocking really then doesn't it! Even though I drive for NX, the amount of times I have had to use another stand or run round town or just wait!
Quote from: Justin Tyme on July 08, 2017, 10:24:13 PM
I believe the X20 is mainly, perhaps totally commercial. Warwickshire did financially support it for several years but Johnsons decided to go commercial a little while ago.
As 2206 says, the only change to the X20 in September will be the withdrawal of the Sunday service - which will mean that Johnsons will no longer run buses on Sundays.
Johnsons timetable now says, the X20 Sunday Service will now continue until till Sunday 31st December 2017.
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/contentfiles/files/X20%20Timetable%20from%20September%202017%20v3.pdf
Quote from: 2206 on July 29, 2017, 08:59:47 PM
"From September 2017, Johnsons Excelbus have a range of Swift cards called 150 City Connect available on the 150 Birmingham to Worcester via Redditch service."
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/swift/
Johnsons are introducing a new Stratford Excel Zone (Low fare zone). New low fare tickets for Stratford Upon Avon Town Centre. From September 4th 2017.
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/stratford-excel-tickets/
Unlimited Travel, Daily, Weekly and monthly tickets.
New prices, valid from 4th September 2017. Valid on all services not including Park and Ride.
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/bus-passes/
Additional fare changes from the 4th September include new X20 Bards weekly tickets -
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/x20-bards-tickets/
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news/122/changes-to-x20-service-and/
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news/121/changes-to-redditch-bus/
Quote from: Solo1 on November 17, 2017, 05:01:19 PM
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news/122/changes-to-x20-service-and/
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news/121/changes-to-redditch-bus/
Limited stop between Maypole and the City Centre.
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/contentfiles/files/150%20%26%20350%20Timetable%20from%207th%20January%202018.pdf
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news/121/changes-to-redditch-bus/
Does anyone know what stops the 150 will be using?
Might be worth trying to get a trip in on the old 150 before it is split in the new year. I imagine the Worcestershire section is particularly scenic
Johnson's has one of their double deckers on the 150 yesterday morning. Spotted in kings heath between 930 and 10. Couldn't see which one as I was driving st the time.
They have been on there all week, Tuesday, there was 2 on Rail Replacement in Wolverhampton and one on the 150.
Not sure if these are cancelled at the end of their current contracts or have been lost to another operator?
PD0000226/145 Cancelled
JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD
Route: Stratford Park & Ride to Banbury Bus Station via Meon Vale, Lower Quinton, Ilmington, Shipston, Brailes, Whichford, Sibford, Tadmarton
Service number: 3 (3A, 3W)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 16 Apr 2018
PD0000226/78 Cancelled
JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD
Route: Moreton In Marsh to Stratford On Avon
Service number: 21 (22, 522)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 16 Apr 2018
PD0000226/131 Cancelled
JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD
Route: Stratford upon Avon to Banbury via Kineton, Tysoe
Service number: X7
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 16 Apr 2018
PD0000226/144 Cancelled
JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD
Route: Stratford, Wood Street to Moreton in Marsh via Lower Quinton, Meon Vale, Chipping Campden, Broadway, Blockley
Service number: 1 (2)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 16 Apr 2018
Quote from: Winston on February 26, 2018, 03:00:09 PM
Not sure if these are cancelled at the end of their current contracts or have been lost to another operator?
PD0000226/145 Cancelled
JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD
Route: Stratford Park & Ride to Banbury Bus Station via Meon Vale, Lower Quinton, Ilmington, Shipston, Brailes, Whichford, Sibford, Tadmarton
Service number: 3 (3A, 3W)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 16 Apr 2018
PD0000226/78 Cancelled
JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD
Route: Moreton In Marsh to Stratford On Avon
Service number: 21 (22, 522)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 16 Apr 2018
PD0000226/131 Cancelled
JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD
Route: Stratford upon Avon to Banbury via Kineton, Tysoe
Service number: X7
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 16 Apr 2018
PD0000226/144 Cancelled
JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD
Route: Stratford, Wood Street to Moreton in Marsh via Lower Quinton, Meon Vale, Chipping Campden, Broadway, Blockley
Service number: 1 (2)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 16 Apr 2018
Not particularly sure on what is going on here but there are timetables starting on the same date already available on the Johnsons website.
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/timetables/
Is the X20 still or partly subsidised by WCC? Or is it all commercially run?
The Sunday service on the X20 is a Warwickshire CC contract. The Mon-Sat service is either mainly or totally commercial.
how much would it cost from birmingham to stratford upon avon return
Quote from: Jordan on March 28, 2018, 04:14:14 PM
how much would it cost from birmingham to stratford upon avon return
Their website tells you this sort of info
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/fares/
£6.80
There's an E200 out on the X20 today, left city at 13:40
I forgot to mention this morning, SN65 OHZ has had most of its X20 branding removed, still got "The Bard's Bus" on the side, but it's been taken off the back.
Quote from: V89MOA on April 13, 2018, 03:22:46 PM
I forgot to mention this morning, SN65 OHZ has had most of its X20 branding removed, still got "The Bard's Bus" on the side, but it's been taken off the back.
Not sure of they still do but I know that an MMC was booked to work the peak time X7 from Stratford to Banbury Express and the 3A in between on weekdays. Also, they do the Stratford P&R service in the summer I think so if these workings still occur, it does make sense to have an unbranded one
1 of tfrom the p&r on x20.
Hybrid on the 150, 9:17 off Brum.
Omnilink YN63 BYP on the X20 today, 13:13 Shirley towards Brum
A post on the Midlandred.net forum says that two new Scania coaches have arrived. :D
PD0000226/154 Registered
JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD
Route: Stratford upon Avon to Shirley Railway Station, Birmingham via Henley in Arden, Hockley Heath
Service number: 20 (X50)
Service type: Limited Stop, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 02 Sep 2018
Quote from: metrocity on June 27, 2018, 12:53:13 PM
PD0000226/154 Registered
JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD
Route: Stratford upon Avon to Shirley Railway Station, Birmingham via Henley in Arden, Hockley Heath
Service number: 20 (X50)
Service type: Limited Stop, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 02 Sep 2018
So its being cut back to Shirley as well, meaning there will no longer be a bus service between Birmingham City Centre and Stratford Upon Avon.
Makes sense as barely anyone uses it between Birmingham City Centre and Shirley.
Most people wanting to go from Birmingham City Centre to Stratford Upon Avon use the train.
Quote from: 2206 on June 27, 2018, 12:54:33 PM
So its being cut back to Shirley as well, meaning there will no longer be a bus service between Birmingham City Centre and Stratford Upon Avon.
Makes sense as barely anyone uses it between Birmingham City Centre and Shirley.
Most people wanting to go from Birmingham City Centre to Stratford Upon Avon use the train.
It seems the X50 is being extended in the other direction from Stratford Upon Avon to Chipping Norton in Oxfordshire as well?
PD0000226/147 Registered
JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD
Route: Stratford upon Avon, Bridge Street to Chipping Norton, West Street via Shipston on Stour
Service number: 50 (X50)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 02 Sep 2018
Quote from: 2206 on June 27, 2018, 12:54:33 PM
So its being cut back to Shirley as well, meaning there will no longer be a bus service between Birmingham City Centre and Stratford Upon Avon.
Makes sense as barely anyone uses it between Birmingham City Centre and Shirley.
Most people wanting to go from Birmingham City Centre to Stratford Upon Avon use the train.
The registration states 'Shirley Station, Birmingham' so that could be interpreted as Shirley Station OR Birmingham? Perhaps just peak-time journeys will continue to Birmingham? Guess we'll have to wait and see...
Quote from: 2206 on June 27, 2018, 12:59:50 PM
It seems the X50 is being extended in the other direction from Stratford Upon Avon to Chipping Norton in Oxfordshire as well?
PD0000226/147 Registered
JOHNSONS (HENLEY) LTD
Route: Stratford upon Avon, Bridge Street to Chipping Norton, West Street via Shipston on Stour
Service number: 50 (X50)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 02 Sep 2018
A few journeys on the 50 already run to and from Chipping Norton, run by Stagecoach Mon-Sat and Johnson's on Sunday. Not sure what this registration signifies - is Johnson's also taking on Mon-Sat or just retiming Sundays? Johnsons are normally very efficient at putting new timetables on their website well in advance so all should become clear soon.
PD2012985 SI DAVE'S COACHES LTD
Director(s): DOROTHY QUIRKE, DAVID TURBILL
21 HIGHLANDS CLOSE, WARWICK, CV34 5JJ
Operating Centre: LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-INARDEN,
B95 5QS
Authorisation: 2 vehicle(s)
Transport Manager(s): CHRISTOPHER KNOTT
New Undertaking: Vehicles with eight passenger seats or less will not be operated
under the licence without the prior written agreement of the traffic commissioner
who may require you to agree to certain undertakings. Attached to Licence.
New Undertaking: Limousines and novelty type vehicles are not to be operated
under this operator's licence. Attached to Licence.
New operator who appear to be sharing Johnson's premises?
Quote from: D10 on June 30, 2018, 02:58:51 PM
PD2012985 SI DAVE'S COACHES LTD
Director(s): DOROTHY QUIRKE, DAVID TURBILL
21 HIGHLANDS CLOSE, WARWICK, CV34 5JJ
Operating Centre: LIVERIDGE HOUSE, LIVERIDGE HILL, HENLEY-INARDEN,
B95 5QS
Authorisation: 2 vehicle(s)
Transport Manager(s): CHRISTOPHER KNOTT
New Undertaking: Vehicles with eight passenger seats or less will not be operated
under the licence without the prior written agreement of the traffic commissioner
who may require you to agree to certain undertakings. Attached to Licence.
New Undertaking: Limousines and novelty type vehicles are not to be operated
under this operator’s licence. Attached to Licence.
New operator who appear to be sharing Johnson's premises?
There's a white liveried coach with daves coaches fleet names on in red .operating in Kidderminster with whittles legal lettering been here a few weeks now
I have been informed by Johnsons that the X20 will be replaced by the following:
New service 20 will operate between Shirley rail station and Stratford-upon-Avon, Monday to Saturday only.
New service X50 will operate between Birmingham and Chipping Norton via Stratford, on Sundays only. It will run between Birmingham and Stratford via the current X20 route, and then presumably via the current 50 route from Stratford to Chipping Norton.
Might be an opportunity for a nice day out though!
Quote from: Stu on July 13, 2018, 06:34:14 PM
I have been informed by Johnsons that the X20 will be replaced by the following:
New service 20 will operate between Shirley rail station and Stratford-upon-Avon, Monday to Saturday only.
New service X50 will operate between Birmingham and Chipping Norton via Stratford, on Sundays only. It will run between Birmingham and Stratford via the current X20 route, and then presumably via the current 50 route from Stratford to Chipping Norton.
Might be an opportunity for a nice day out though!
They've got the service running at 60 mins with a PVR of 3. That means 90 mins running time each way. I'm thinking with the increased traffic in Birmingham, they can't justify putting an extra bus on which is why they've shortened it to Shirley?
X50 will be the longest bus route in the region then. I know that the X20 is in itself about 26 miles.
Quote from: Stu on July 13, 2018, 06:34:14 PM
I have been informed by Johnsons that the X20 will be replaced by the following:
New service 20 will operate between Shirley rail station and Stratford-upon-Avon, Monday to Saturday only.
New service X50 will operate between Birmingham and Chipping Norton via Stratford, on Sundays only. It will run between Birmingham and Stratford via the current X20 route, and then presumably via the current 50 route from Stratford to Chipping Norton.
Might be an opportunity for a nice day out though!
I believe the current Sunday 50 and X20 already interwork so to retain the Birmingham link and advertise it as a through route is a welcome initiative. Hopefully Johnsons and Warwickshire County Council (which I believe subsidises both) will take some steps to publicise the new X50.
Quote from: Smethwickian on July 13, 2018, 08:09:46 PM
I believe the current Sunday 50 and X20 already interwork so to retain the Birmingham link and advertise it as a through route is a welcome initiative. Hopefully Johnsons and Warwickshire County Council (which I believe subsidises both) will take some steps to publicise the new X50.
I recall many years ago, early 2000s when Pete's Travel had the Warwickshire Sunday contracts and linked them all up so on the first day a few of us did a through run from Birmingham to Oxford on the X20/50/X50 or however it was numbered/split. Vaguely recall the haulage was KU52xxx Dart SLFs. Very nice run there and back and gave a decent amount of time in Oxford for beer/spotting etc. I can also recall the advertised Rover ticket (£5.50 or something for the day) hadn't been programmed into the ticket machines so the driver issued us with 11 50p singles or something, that took a bit of explaining on the way back! The ticket was about a metre in length, took pride of place on the office wall for a good while afterwards.
Ah yeah. I do remember the Sunday X50 that Pete's ran from Birmingham to Oxford.
It's a fairly logical move really, Sunday X20s generally seem to be busier than any other day in the city. Shirley Station seems a strange place to terminate though, haven't seen the timetable so don't know how much layover they've got but I would have thought a better bet would be from Shirley across to Solihull to terminate. I know the previous S20 didn't really work but that was in conjunction with the X20 and ran a different way to Hockley Heath, maybe this way wouldn't be as bad.
Quote from: Kevin on July 14, 2018, 09:50:35 AM
It's a fairly logical move really, Sunday X20s generally seem to be busier than any other day in the city. Shirley Station seems a strange place to terminate though, haven't seen the timetable so don't know how much layover they've got but I would have thought a better bet would be from Shirley across to Solihull to terminate. I know the previous S20 didn't really work but that was in conjunction with the X20 and ran a different way to Hockley Heath, maybe this way wouldn't be as bad.
I can see this new route eventually being cut to Henley in Arden to Stratford only with just peaks going as far as Shirley for the Blythe Valley workers.
The 20 and X50 timetables are now on Johnsons website.
X50 -
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/contentfiles/files/X50%202nd%20September.pdf
20 -
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/contentfiles/files/20%20X50%202nd%20September.pdf
Johnsons operating "graduation shuttles" around Brum City Centre today, I think for Aston University
Seen a coach and an E200 so far
E200s still used regularly on 87?
Quote from: Kevin on July 14, 2018, 09:50:35 AM
It's a fairly logical move really, Sunday X20s generally seem to be busier than any other day in the city. Shirley Station seems a strange place to terminate though, haven't seen the timetable so don't know how much layover they've got but I would have thought a better bet would be from Shirley across to Solihull to terminate. I know the previous S20 didn't really work but that was in conjunction with the X20 and ran a different way to Hockley Heath, maybe this way wouldn't be as bad.
My guess is that Shirley rail station makes a convenient place to layover "out of the way", especially now only the NX 49 service calls there, its another link to the station from Shirley town centre if anything.
The ones with free bus& local train passes can get to shirley train
Station then change onto the bus instead of paying on the trains as the 20 will stop in the town centre where as
the train you have to walk unless they re route it to serve the train station both ways
Quote from: Kevin on July 18, 2018, 01:46:02 PM
Johnsons operating "graduation shuttles" around Brum City Centre today, I think for Aston University
Seen a coach and an E200 so far
YY16YLL is on the Graduation Shuttle today.
Seen on Jennens Road turning right onto Woodcock Street at about 12:46 today.
Is the Johnson's new x50 gonna be painted into the new west midlands bus livery because their is the new bus stop flags along the route
Quote from: Jordan on August 20, 2018, 12:24:49 PM
Is the Johnson's new x50 gonna be painted into the new west midlands bus livery because their is the new bus stop flags along the route
I can't say for sure, but I'm 99.99999% confident that they won't be. Those flags are going to be used everywhere, not just on WM Bus liveried routes.
Okay then cheers mate
Quote from: StourValley98 on August 20, 2018, 12:35:01 PM
I can't say for sure, but I'm 99.99999% confident that they won't be. Those flags are going to be used everywhere, not just on WM Bus liveried routes.
Also, the X50 will be Sundays only.
There's been a Solo on the 87 today and yesterday in Solihull - MX08MYO.
Quote from: 2206 on September 04, 2018, 03:07:31 PM
There's been a Solo on the 87 today and yesterday in Solihull - MX08MYO.
So?
Quote from: MW on September 04, 2018, 04:45:59 PM
So?
Is that the usual allocation?
I thought it was the E200?
Quote from: 2206 on September 04, 2018, 04:47:47 PM
Is that the usual allocation.
I thought it was the E200?
Usual allocation is E200, but that Solo is on the 87 regularly.
Quote from: MW on September 04, 2018, 04:49:20 PM
Usual allocation is E200, but that Solo is on the 87 regularly.
Thanks for the info.
Quote from: MW on September 04, 2018, 04:49:20 PM
Usual allocation is E200, but that Solo is on the 87 regularly.
PVR is 3, 2 e200s and a solo usually
A few Johnsons coaches and a bus doing tours around Worcester for the Uni open day today. The bus destination blind is showing 87 Coventry!
M40 closure badly affecting Johnsons routes today, 87 and presumably then also 42 running 15 late
Johnsons are taking over running of the 82 and the 88 from Diamond (the latter in an amended form alongside the 87).
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news/159/new-services-for-solihull/
Also, Diamond are taking the 42 (Coventry-Coundon) over from Johnsons from the same date..
PD0001374/490 Registered
DIAMOND BUS LTD
Route: Brownshill Green, Hawkes Mill Road to Coventry, Pool Meadow
Service number: 42 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 24 Feb 2019
Will the merc buses move over to johnsons for 82/88 or stay with diamond
Quote from: Solo1 on January 03, 2019, 12:50:50 PM
Will the merc buses move over to johnsons for 82/88 or stay with diamond
No, they're owned by by Rotala.
Besides only 30030 sees service, 30019 is long term VOR & 30401 is fire damaged & parked at Tividale graveyard for 18 months+
Ok thanks so wil johnsons be buying some more Buses for the 82 88 services or have johnsons
got enough buses
Quote from: Solo1 on January 03, 2019, 01:05:28 PM
Ok thanks so wil johnsons be buying some more Buses for the 82 88 services or have johnsons
got enough buses
I'd expect them to have to source some extra or buy new buses, tender awards weren't announced that long ago.
Well to be fair they should have buses spare from losing the 42 and curtailing the X20
Quote from: Kevin on January 03, 2019, 03:07:02 PM
Well to be fair they should have buses spare from losing the 42 and curtailing the X20
2 buses 1spare 1 42 1 from X20 unles they are changing any more services
I've heard they've got some E200 MMCs on order along with Landflight.
I stress the "I've heard" bit of that sentence.
As it redirects me to a 'Page not found', would anybody be able to tell me the cost of a day return ticket between Shirley Station & Stratford on the 20?
Many thanks.
Edit: It has occurred to me that I could catch a train from Shirley (£3.70 for an off peak return, with railcard discounts applied), and it'll work out cheaper than if I did so from a central Birmingham Station - possibly cheaper than the bus, too! If anyone does have the price, I wouldn't mind still knowing - for future references' sake.
Quote from: CL on January 20, 2019, 01:20:48 AM
As it redirects me to a 'Page not found', would anybody be able to tell me the cost of a day return ticket between Shirley Station & Stratford on the 20?
Many thanks.
Edit: It has occurred to me that I could catch a train from Shirley (£3.70 for an off peak return, with railcard discounts applied), and it'll work out cheaper than if I did so from a central Birmingham Station - possibly cheaper than the bus, too! If anyone does have the price, I wouldn't mind still knowing - for future references' sake.
I only know that a single from Shirley High Street at the Morrisons stop and the one before to Stratford is £5.50.
Quote from: CL on January 20, 2019, 01:20:48 AM
As it redirects me to a 'Page not found', would anybody be able to tell me the cost of a day return ticket between Shirley Station & Stratford on the 20?
Many thanks.
Edit: It has occurred to me that I could catch a train from Shirley (£3.70 for an off peak return, with railcard discounts applied), and it'll work out cheaper than if I did so from a central Birmingham Station - possibly cheaper than the bus, too! If anyone does have the price, I wouldn't mind still knowing - for future references' sake.
They used to have all the fares for their various services on their website, not sure why they don't any more.
You might get a quicker answer by dropping them an email, they do respond quite quickly during the week:
http://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/contact-us/
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on January 20, 2019, 06:38:58 PM
I only know that a single from Shirley High Street at the Morrisons stop and the one before to Stratford is £5.50.
I seem to recall a couple of years back, when I was thinking about taking a trip on the X20 from Hall Green, that a single was about £5, while a return was £7. It probably is a little cheaper (and faster) by train but I liked the idea of having a nice bus ride. Maybe later this year, I do fancy a day out on the X50 to Chipping Norton, I think that might be a nice journey, as long as its not too expensive. ;)
Ah, many thanks, both.
@Ashley 60171 @Stu Looks like it's the train for me, then. ;) Perhaps I may do the scenic route, one day.
The fare tables for all services have reappeared on the website, and are up to date (and include the forthcoming 82 and 88). The Shirley Station - Stratford fare is £5.70 single, £7.00 return; Birmingham - Stratford is the same. Birmingham - Chipping Norton is £8.00 single and a day ticket is to be issued for return journeys.
Unfortunately, however, the day ticket price has disappeared - it was £10.50 last autumn.
If anyone has the time and funds, a good day out is to Banbury. Use the 20 to Stratford (on an Enviro 400MMC if you're lucky), then you have a choice of the 3A, 6 or 7 from there. All of the Stratford - Banbury services are very scenic and provide a good round trip.
Johnson's have 6 new 68 plate E200's arriving. Some are receiving livery and lettering as they're coming in base wight.
Haven't got reg numbers yet.
Quote from: barry on February 12, 2019, 10:35:31 PM
Johnson's have 6 new 68 plate E200's arriving. Some are receiving livery and lettering as they're coming in base wight.
Haven't got reg numbers yet.
There's 3 old shape E200s already arrived, and 3 MMCs yet to arrive I think. The MMCs should be for the 82/88 tender uptake
Bus Lists On The Web report 3 x 68 plates. "YW" plates if I remember correctly. ;D
I've read somewhere that the 3 older ones have/are being converted into Euro 6 specification, and then the MMCs will of course be Euro 6 as standard. All six for the 82/87/88. Two for the 82, 3 for the 87/88.
YW68XXX (think it's YW68PBV on 87 today.)
It's a classic bodystyle E200.
YW68PBX also on 87 today.
Quote from: Justin Tyme on February 08, 2019, 09:46:30 PM
The fare tables for all services have reappeared on the website, and are up to date... Birmingham - Chipping Norton is £8.00 single...
So technically I can use my Stagecoach Oxfordshire pass to get all the way from Brum to Swindon on a Sunday for 8 quid..... I like this idea
Quote from: Justin Tyme on February 08, 2019, 09:46:30 PM
If anyone has the time and funds, a good day out is to Banbury. Use the 20 to Stratford (on an Enviro 400MMC if you're lucky), then you have a choice of the 3A, 6 or 7 from there. All of the Stratford - Banbury services are very scenic and provide a good round trip.
I concur, I did the 3 to Banbury, 7 to Kineton and 77 to Leamington (and Nx back to Great Barr) when I came down to Banbury to view places to move to, cracking day out
None of the new MMCs on shed this afternoon, one is apparently on the Coventry 42 and I assume the other two are away for vinyl/painting. I know one is registered YW68OVX so not exactly same batch as Landflights. The guy at there said they have been in close contact over their new buses, which is nice to hear operators helping each other out
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on February 18, 2019, 04:28:10 PM
None of the new MMCs on shed this afternoon, one is apparently on the Coventry 42 and I assume the other two are away for vinyl/painting. I know one is registered YW68OVX so not exactly same batch as Landflights. The guy at there said they have been in close contact over their new buses, which is nice to hear operators helping each other out
YW68 OVV was out on the 42/87 today in all over white (will this gain fleet livery in time). I assume it was it's first day out? Another 68 plate (one of the 'classic' bodied examples) was on there too.
Quote from: Nathan on February 18, 2019, 07:23:17 PM
YW68 OVV was out on the 42/87 today in all over white (will this gain fleet livery in time). I assume it was it's first day out? Another 68 plate (one of the 'classic' bodied examples) was on there too.
I assume so yes, and yes from what I have been told previously, that must have been its first day. A friend of mine works there which is how I know the registration of one of the others
YW68OVV / YW68OVX / YX68OVY are the E200mmc
The standard ones are YW68PBX/PBU/PBV
Johnsons New 68 Plate e200's
2 now in livery without logos & one still to go!
Quote from: barry on February 21, 2019, 03:17:01 PM
Johnsons New 68 Plate e200's
2 now in livery without logos & one still to go!
Thanks for sharing. These look really smart and looking forward to riding them soon
Johnson's 42 City (Pool Meadow) – Brownshill Green is running along these roads - is this right ?! (so both directions via Overslade Crescent?)
Route 42 towards Brownshill Green:
Pool Meadow Bus Station, Fairfax Street, Trinity Street, Ironmonger Row, Cross Cheaping, The Burges, Corporation Street, Upper Well Street, Ringway Hill Cross, Holyhead Road, Moseley Avenue, Poole Road, Christchurch Road, Scots Lane, Duncroft Avenue, Norman Place Road, Birchfield Road, Eversleigh Road, Overslade Crescent, Mapleton Road, Birchfield Road, Brownshill Green Road, Wall Hill Road, Hawkes Mill Lane, Browns Lane.
Route 42 towards Coventry:
Browns Lane, Hawkes Mill Lane, Brownshill Green Road, Birchfield Road, Mapleton Road, Overslade Crescent, Eversleigh Road, Birchfield Road, Norman Place Road, Duncroft Avenue, Scots Lane, Christchurch Road, Poole Road, Moseley Avenue, Holyhead Road, Ringway Hill Cross, Upper Well Street, Corporation Street, Hales Street, Fairfax Street, Priory Street, Pool Meadow Bus Station.
^ Re the above - perhaps I should say was this the route run by Johnson's to Overslade Crescent (bar the extension to Browns Lane). I'll re-post this message in the Diamond thread - as it is they who have taken over the route with the Brownshill Green extension on 24/2/19 !
E400MMC SN65 OJA is out on the 82 (Coventry to Solihull) today.
MMC SN65 OHZ also on 82.
One of the E400 MMC are on the 82 today.
Terminated in Solihull at 08:45.
Quote from: 2206 on March 11, 2019, 12:11:11 PM
One of the E400 MMC are on the 82 today.
Terminated in Solihull at 08:45.
SN65 OJB
A Versa Hybrid is currently on the 88
Hi which coach is reg E12JCT on now? I know it has been on W119DUA & YJ03GYE before.
Quote from: saiwah007 on March 20, 2019, 12:04:00 PM
Hi which coach is reg E12JCT on now? I know it has been on W119DUA & YJ03GYE before.
YJ05 FXK
SN65OJA on the 82 today.
there was an E400MMC on the 87 today too
SN65OHZ on the 82 today.
Scania YT19DYC seen in Birmingham this morning - due to a lack of 50s of either hue it was not photographed so not sure of bodywork.
more coaches are expected soon think they are same type as whittles have just had
Quote from: mikestone on April 11, 2019, 07:45:40 PM
Scania YT19DYC seen in Birmingham this morning - due to a lack of 50s of either hue it was not photographed so not sure of bodywork.
They are Scania Interlink's and I think there are 3 in total. (2 shorter and 1 longer 63 seat tri-axle.)
Due to the ongoing police incident on the M40 traffic is currently stationary past our depot. This will cause delays to all services this morning. We will update with more information when we have it. Sorry for any inconvenience.
There's an Omnilink on the 82/87 today. Currently on a Solihull-bound 82 in Allesley.
YT13 HKY.
YJ11 EJE (Hybrid Versa) out on the 82. Another Omnilink on the 87 (13 plate)
E200MMC (YX68 OVX) on the 69. First time I've seen one on there.
Optare Tempo (YJ59 GEU) has just passed me in Balsall Common, working a Coventry bound 87. First time I've seen one on there, as well.
Scania SN58FWL is on 87 today.
E200 YY16YLL was operating a Universtiy Of Birmingham open day shuttle service earlier today. It was on Edgbaston Park Road at 13:20.
MMC YX68OVV just left Worcester on a 150A
MMC E400 is on Solihull / Coventry
New X20: Stratford Upon Avon to Coventry via Henley In Arden, Shirley, Solihull and Meriden, from 2nd September 2019.
https://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/contentfiles/files/New%20X20%20Solihull%20via%20Shirley.pdf
Quote from: 2206 on July 25, 2019, 01:36:07 PM
New X20: Stratford Upon Avon to Coventry via Henley In Arden, Shirley, Solihull and Meriden, from 2nd September 2019.
https://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/contentfiles/files/New%20X20%20Solihull%20via%20Shirley.pdf
Look forward to the date
Quote from: 2206 on July 25, 2019, 01:36:07 PM
New X20: Stratford Upon Avon to Coventry via Henley In Arden, Shirley, Solihull and Meriden, from 2nd September 2019.
https://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/contentfiles/files/New%20X20%20Solihull%20via%20Shirley.pdf
Like how they start/end certain early morning/late evening services at the depot presumably to avoid dead mileage.
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on July 25, 2019, 02:36:17 PM
Like how they start/end certain early morning/late evening services at the depot presumably to avoid dead mileage.
It's so they can claim fuel duty rebate on the dead mileage, but only if the bus is still in service.
Quote from: 2206 on July 25, 2019, 01:36:07 PM
New X20: Stratford Upon Avon to Coventry via Henley In Arden, Shirley, Solihull and Meriden, from 2nd September 2019.
https://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/contentfiles/files/New%20X20%20Solihull%20via%20Shirley.pdf
Interesting, looks like they're combining the 20 and 82 together. I presume from Shirley (as the timing point is listed as Morrisons) this will go via Solihull Road, Sharmans Cross Road and Streetsbrook Road to Solihull station.
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on July 25, 2019, 02:36:17 PM
Like how they start/end certain early morning/late evening services at the depot presumably to avoid dead mileage.
They did that with the 'old' X20 route (Birmingham to Stratford), would need to check but I think they do with the current 20 service too.
SN65 OJA is on the 82. Left Solihull Town Centre 11:50 to the train station.
Does anyone know what happened to the old X20 MMC deckers?
Quote from: Busboy105 on September 25, 2019, 04:44:35 PM
Does anyone know what happened to the old X20 MMC deckers?
They've still got them, and they still do the X20 (except it's the Coventry to Stratford one!)
Why was the old X20 withdrawn? It had decent loadings.
Quote from: Busboy105 on September 25, 2019, 05:00:07 PM
Why was the old X20 withdrawn? It had decent loadings.
Obviously didn't have decent loading or it wouldn't have been withdrawn
Quote from: Busboy105 on September 25, 2019, 05:00:07 PM
Why was the old X20 withdrawn? It had decent loadings.
From Johnsons website:
https://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news/145/bus-service-changes/
QuoteWith regards to our X20 service, please see below for further information as to why we have had to make these changes.
Unfortunately passenger numbers are too low for us to continue commercially operating a Monday to Saturday service into Birmingham City Centre and congestion along the Stratford Road is causing the service to have timetable reliability issues.
I don't know where you used to see 'decent loadings' but on the occasions I used to see their X20 buses on Stratford Road in Sparkbrook there were rarely more than a handful of people on board. And I would agree with their reasoning on reliability.
Quote from: Busboy105 on September 25, 2019, 05:00:07 PM
Why was the old X20 withdrawn? It had decent loadings.
Most of those passengers were probably pass holders in which case, Johnsons wouldn't be making any money from.
There are a few bus stops in Coventry with X20 on them now, mainly by the Morrisons near Allesley. Is that a replacement for the withdrawn service or a completely different route?
Quote from: OH25 on September 25, 2019, 08:26:57 PM
There are a few bus stops in Coventry with X20 on them now, mainly by the Morrisons near Allesley. Is that a replacement for the withdrawn service or a completely different route?
The 'new' X20 service has replaced the 82 between Solihull and Coventry.
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on September 25, 2019, 04:47:46 PM
They've still got them, and they still do the X20 (except it's the Coventry to Stratford one!)
They are also used on the Stratford park and ride services.
Do they appear on Saturdays please?
The X20 does operate on Saturday: https://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/contentfiles/files/New%20X20%20Solihull%20via%20Shirley.pdf
And the E400MMC's do appear on it.
Johnsons & Whittles is the latest fleetlist updated...
http://wmbusphotos.com/Johnsons/fleetlist.html
Again, any corrections welcome
Quote from: Tony on January 01, 2020, 06:44:57 PM
Johnsons & Whittles is the latest fleetlist updated...
http://wmbusphotos.com/Johnsons/fleetlist.html
Again, any corrections welcome
@Tony Happy New Year. I am sure you find this hard to believe but when Johnsons used to serve the Blythe Valley business park south of Shirley where I have a number of clients on the X20 a number of the drivers who got to know me and my moaning about thier constant unreliability they used to drive past me at the stop & the same with Whittles drivers on the 292 as I used to compere them unfavourably against MRW, luckily I have of course the Diamond Bus service at Blythe Valley but its hard to understand why isnt it?...................
Quote from: richardjones210368 on January 01, 2020, 07:16:33 PM
@Tony Happy New Year. I am sure you find this hard to believe but when Johnsons used to serve the Blythe Valley business park south of Shirley where I have a number of clients on the X20 a number of the drivers who got to know me and my moaning about thier constant unreliability they used to drive past me at the stop & the same with Whittles drivers on the 292 as I used to compere them unfavourably against MRW, luckily I have of course the Diamond Bus service at Blythe Valley but its hard to understand why isnt it?...................
Diamond don't have any services that go to Blythe Valley. And as far as I am aware, I don't think they ever have.
Only Landflight A7/A8 and Johnsons X20 do. Landflight also run a 2 private contract shuttles from Birmingham International and Solihull Station.
Quote from: 2206 on January 01, 2020, 08:02:07 PM
Diamond don't have any services that go to Blythe Valley. And as far as I am aware, I don't think they ever have.
Only Landflight A7/A8 and Johnsons X20 do. Landflight also run a 2 private contract shuttles from Birmingham International and Solihull Station.
Well I used to get one I can assure you I will admit I never go there now so have no idea what runs there now but when Johnsons served it & used to leave me behind but I was always welcomed aboard by Diamond Bus!
Saw on another group that 1 of the versas have been sold YJ11EJK anyone know if anymore have gone?
Are there regular routes / running boards on which the E400s operate?
Quote from: fleetline6477 on January 29, 2020, 10:09:51 PM
Are there regular routes / running boards on which the E400s operate?
I think park &,ride in Stratford & the old 82 Solihull-coventry had 1 on a while back nothing stopping them putting one on the x20 cov -solihull -stratford. The were on X20 before it changed
Quote from: Solo1 on January 29, 2020, 10:45:49 PM
I think park &,ride in Stratford & the old 82 Solihull-coventry had 1 on a while back nothing stopping them putting one on the x20 cov -solihull -stratford. The were on X20 before it changed
And they still appear on there. I saw one in Solihull last week.
Quote from: fleetline6477 on January 29, 2020, 10:09:51 PM
Are there regular routes / running boards on which the E400s operate?
The last X20 from Coventry to Solihull is a regular 400MMC. Sometime between half 6 and 7 I think from Pool Meadow.
Quote from: fleetline6477 on January 29, 2020, 10:09:51 PM
Are there regular routes / running boards on which the E400s operate?
X7, schooldays Banbury - Stratford
See it every morning, can only assume it's also used on the return in the afternoon but always at work
Johnsons tracking on bustimes
https://bustimes.org/operators/johnsons-excelbus/vehicles
Quote from: CL on February 04, 2020, 02:40:43 PM
Johnsons tracking on bustimes
https://bustimes.org/operators/johnsons-excelbus/vehicles
On that tracker, it shows that at least two buses working the 150 today went to Worcester from Redditch, but Johnsons don't have a Worcester service listed on the bustimes page. Would have this been school services?
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/195940#journeys/2671612
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/195922#journeys/2666909
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/195941#journeys/2671811
Quote from: ellspurs on February 05, 2020, 07:27:26 PM
On that tracker, it shows that at least two buses working the 150 today went to Worcester from Redditch, but Johnsons don't have a Worcester service listed on the bustimes page. Would have this been school services?
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/195940#journeys/2671612
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/195922#journeys/2666909
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/195941#journeys/2671811
150A
https://bustimes.org/services/150a-redditch-wythall-birmingham
Quote from: ellspurs on February 05, 2020, 07:27:26 PM
On that tracker, it shows that at least two buses working the 150 today went to Worcester from Redditch, but Johnsons don't have a Worcester service listed on the bustimes page. Would have this been school services?
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/195940#journeys/2671612
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/195922#journeys/2666909
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/195941#journeys/2671811
The 150 continues on to Worcester every two hours (numbered 150A)
Quote from: Nathan on February 05, 2020, 07:31:01 PM
The 150 continues on to Worcester every two hours (numbered 150A)
Ah, that would explain it. I didn't look at that as bustimes just had it listed as Redditch - Wythall - Birmingham.
150, 150A Birmingham - Redditch - Woodrow North - Worcester:
https://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/contentfiles/files/150%20150A%20150C%20Feb%202019.pdf
It's an odd one, because I'm sure at the bus stops I've been at, the printed timetables only show the 150 as going to Redditch.
Quote from: Stu on February 05, 2020, 08:00:55 PM
It's an odd one, because I'm sure at the bus stops I've been at, the printed timetables only show the 150 as going to Redditch.
I expect this is because the service is registered in two parts (either side of Redditch) because the full route is over 30 miles long - one of the downsides of the regulation that put a mileage limit on local bus services. Buses on the 150A from Birmingham show that they are running through to Worcester.
Interestingly, although the X20 Coventry - Solihull - Stratford is also registered in two parts for this reason (either side of Solihull Station), I noticed at Pool Meadow recently that the TfWM departure list does show the full route all the way to Stratford. As many readers will probably know, buses normally show "X20 Solihull then Stratford" or "X20 Solihull then Coventry".
Quote from: Nathan on February 05, 2020, 07:31:01 PM
The 150 continues on to Worcester every two hours (numbered 150A)
YX18KNW on this service yesterday.
A press release about Johnsons Coaches new coach:
https://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news/239/johnsons-new-63-seater-coach/
Services 1,2 start back from Stratford station from 1st September.
Johnsons Coaches proposes major jobs cull as chill winds sweep travel industry.
https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/johnsons-coaches-proposes-major-jobs-18814120
Looks like the Coventry paper was struggling to find a topical photo (as usual!)
Quote from: Sandy Lane on August 23, 2020, 09:35:21 AM
Johnsons Coaches proposes major jobs cull as chill winds sweep travel industry.
https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/johnsons-coaches-proposes-major-jobs-18814120
Looks like the Coventry paper was struggling to find a topical photo (as usual!)
Seeing as what has happened to DeCourcey, I hope Johnson's isn't forced to go the same way!
Noted a Tempo in Banbury a couple of mornings this week on the early 3A journey from Stratford displaying "50A" instead. Been a couple of years since its been numbered that, curious why they'd still have it on the blinds? As far as I'm aware it isn't a journey that's become closed door for schoolkids, I know they've updated the blinds to state that much on the X7
Quote from: Kevin on September 17, 2020, 07:38:27 AM
Noted a Tempo in Banbury a couple of mornings this week on the early 3A journey from Stratford displaying "50A" instead. Been a couple of years since its been numbered that, curious why they'd still have it on the blinds? As far as I'm aware it isn't a journey that's become closed door for schoolkids, I know they've updated the blinds to state that much on the X7
In fact the 3A was renumbered back to 50A (or replaced by 50A if you prefer) on 1st September. The timetable is at https://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/contentfiles/files/6%207%2050A%20X7%20(Sept%202020).pdf (https://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/contentfiles/files/6%207%2050A%20X7%20(Sept%202020).pdf)
Seen a Ordinary E20D on the X50 to Birmingham today.What is the allocation for this route?Didn't it used to have E400mmc and Used to be called X20?
Quote from: bbs on September 20, 2020, 11:49:58 PM
Seen a Ordinary E20D on the X50 to Birmingham today.What is the allocation for this route?Didn't it used to have E400mmc and Used to be called X20?
No its didn't use to be the X20 and has always been single deck
Quote from: Tony on September 21, 2020, 06:11:20 AM
No its didn't use to be the X20 and has always been single deck
Actually Tony It did used to be the X20 but it didn't used to go to Chipping Norton
Quote from: Bus Man K2 on September 21, 2020, 09:33:39 AM
Actually Tony It did used to be the X20 but it didn't used to go to Chipping Norton
The current johnsons service into Birmingham from Redditch has never been the X20. That was a completely different service, get you facts right before criticising me
Quote from: Tony on September 21, 2020, 09:40:13 AM
The current johnsons service into Birmingham from Redditch has never been the X20. That was a completely different service, get you facts right before criticising me
To be fair to Bus Man K2, the post was about the Sundays X50 Brum - Stratford - Chipping Norton, not the Redditch service
And yes, it is usually one of the E200s. Think the E400MMCs still run the Monday - Saturday X20
Quote from: Tony on September 21, 2020, 09:40:13 AM
The current johnsons service into Birmingham from Redditch has never been the X20. That was a completely different service, get you facts right before criticising me
The Redditch service is the 150, it did used to be X50, was renumbered a few years back.
X50 is Sundays only to Chipping Norton via the old X20 route into Birmingham along the Stratford Road.
Quote from: Kevin on September 21, 2020, 10:33:28 AM
And yes, it is usually one of the E200s. Think the E400MMCs still run the Monday - Saturday X20
Yes And I've seen Omnilinks and E200 used on X20 (Stratford - Solihull - Coventry) as well.
Quote from: Tony on September 21, 2020, 09:40:13 AM
The current johnsons service into Birmingham from Redditch has never been the X20. That was a completely different service, get you facts right before criticising me
I thought the 150 (previously x50) was the Redditch service and the X50 (previously x20 + 50) was the Stratford Sunday only route?
Quote from: the trainbasher on September 21, 2020, 01:22:04 PM
I thought the 150 (previously x50) was the Redditch service and the X50 (previously x20 + 50) was the Stratford Sunday only route?
Hopefully this clears things up:
150: Birmingham - Redditch - Woodrow North (Optare Tempo)
150A: Birmingham - Redditch - Worcester (Optare Tempo)
X20: Stratford - Solihull - Coventry (ADL E400MMC)
X50: Birmingham - Stratford - Chipping Norton (ADL E200)
@Bus Man K2 was referring to the old X20 which used to operate from Stratford to Birmingham. This now runs to Solihull and Coventry.
The Redditch to Worcester section was previously known as the 350, but has now been remembered to 150A.
Quote from: Pat on September 21, 2020, 03:53:29 PM
X20: Stratford - Solihull - Coventry (ADL E400MMC)
I don't think thats correct.
I think its E400 MMC/E200/Omnilink.
Quote from: 2206 on September 21, 2020, 07:20:14 PM
I don't think thats correct.
I think its E400 MMC/E200/Omnilink.
A mix does appear, although the allocation should be E400MMCs bearing in mind they were purchased for this route to replace the Olympus'.
Quote from: Pat on September 21, 2020, 08:46:35 PM
A mix does appear, although the allocation should be E400MMCs bearing in mind they were purchased for this route to replace the Olympus'.
From what i've seen Omnilinks/E200 seem to be very common on there.
In fact looking at the allocation on bus times for today quite a number of vehicles appear to have been on there today. It looks like there's interworking with other routes these days, which could explain the varied allocation.
https://bustimes.org/services/x20-coventry-stratford-upon-avon-via-solihull/vehicles?date=2020-09-21
I don't see why it "should" be E400 MMC if the Omnilinks/E200 are suitable on there.
Allocations do change. And presumably a lot has also changed in regards to that route since those E400 MMC where new for the route 5 years ago, including the fact it no longer runs into Birmingham.
Quote from: 2206 on September 21, 2020, 08:55:33 PM
From what i've seen Omnilinks/E200 seem to be very common on there.
In fact looking at the allocation on bus times for today quite a number of vehicles appear to have been on there today. It looks like there's interworking with other routes these days, which could explain the varied allocation.
https://bustimes.org/services/x20-coventry-stratford-upon-avon-via-solihull/vehicles?date=2020-09-21
I don't see why it "should" be E400 MMC if the Omnilinks/E200 are suitable on there.
Allocations do change. And presumably a lot has also changed in regards to that route since those E400 MMC where new for the route 5 years ago, including the fact it no longer runs into Birmingham.
Many early morning and evening journeys run as X20 shorts between the depot at Liveridge Hill and Stratford/Solihull as placement journeys, which is another reason for seeing a variety of vehicles. Stratford Town services interwork, as do some of the Solihull tenders. The X20 is standalone during the day, AFAIK.
Johnsons do like to 'mix and match' their allocations. I've had Scania's, E200's and Tempos on the 150 before. Having said that, the 150 is mostly Tempo operated on a consistent basis.
Quote from: Pat on September 21, 2020, 09:21:57 PM
Many early morning and evening journeys run as X20 shorts between the depot at Liveridge Hill and Stratford/Solihull as placement journeys, which is another reason for seeing a variety of vehicles. Stratford Town services interwork, as do some of the Solihull tenders. The X20 is standalone during the day, AFAIK.
Johnsons do like to 'mix and match' their allocations. I've had Scania's, E200's and Tempos on the 150 before. Having said that, the 150 is mostly Tempo operated on a consistent basis.
I personally saw a short E200 on the X20 this morning at about 10:00 for instance. Didn't take the reg of the bus at the time, but bus times suggests it was YW68PBU on the 08:55 from Stratford to Coventry.
It suggests after its return trip back to Stratford it went onto the 1 & 2. And it seems the buses that did that 08:55 round trip last Thursday & Friday also later went onto the 1 & 2. So does look to be some sort of interworking from that.
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/195842?date=2020-09-21#
Same for this vehicle that according to Bus Times did the 11:50.
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/195821?date=2020-09-21#
Quote from: 2206 on September 21, 2020, 10:28:34 PM
I personally saw a short E200 on the X20 this morning at about 10:00 for instance. Didn't take the reg of the bus at the time, but bus times suggests it was YW68PBU on the 08:55 from Stratford to Coventry.
It suggests after its return trip back to Stratford it went onto the 1 & 2. And it seems the buses that did that 08:55 round trip last Thursday & Friday also later went onto the 1 & 2. So does look to be some sort of interworking from that.
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/195842?date=2020-09-21#
Same for this vehicle that according to Bus Times did the 11:50.
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/195821?date=2020-09-21#
Yes, YW68PBU was on the X20, saw it in Coventry. Had a Solo on it on Saturday, no sign of the deckers on there
I would guess that Johnsons - as with many other firms - have only got a percentage of their buses "on the road" to keep operating costs down. So mix and match with vehicle and route interworking is done as much as possible. I would reckon that if "the bus" turns up at the right time , then if its a minibus or double decker then so be it. As for route re-numbering , whether instigated by operator or "the council" , it does cause confusion especially for older people , I have many times seen folk not get on their bus because the route number has altered.
Since the X20 would require four buses if standalone, which if anyone bothered to look at the timetable on Johnson's website they would see it isn't, it can hardly be all E400!
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Slightly misleadingly the timetable says through fares are available, meaning between Bridge Street and the Station, but that isn't specified.
Some X20 journeys interwork at Stratford with the 1/2/3 - the timetables show this on relevant journeys.
Before the lockdown the X20 was mainly a mix of Enviro 200s and Enviro 400s, but the double decks were parked up during the Spring and early Summer (judging by bustimes.org) and a Scania or two became regulars along with the E200s.
While the E400s were originally obtained for the X20 (when it was Birmingham - Stratford), one was soon scheduled for schoolday X7/50A workings (Stratford - Banbury and return) for a time. Two were also scheduled for Stratford Park & Ride on Saturdays for some time. According to a recent Facebook post it looks like one is now scheduled for school journeys on 3 (Stratford - Shipston-on-Stour High School) because of demand. That makes sense to me - I don't know if any other Johnsons service needs double decks.
Quote from: Justin Tyme on September 22, 2020, 06:55:30 PM
Some X20 journeys interwork at Stratford with the 1/2/3 - the timetables show this on relevant journeys.
Before the lockdown the X20 was mainly a mix of Enviro 200s and Enviro 400s, but the double decks were parked up during the Spring and early Summer (judging by bustimes.org) and a Scania or two became regulars along with the E200s.
While the E400s were originally obtained for the X20 (when it was Birmingham - Stratford), one was soon scheduled for schoolday X7/50A workings (Stratford - Banbury and return) for a time. Two were also scheduled for Stratford Park & Ride on Saturdays for some time. According to a recent Facebook post it looks like one is now scheduled for school journeys on 3 (Stratford - Shipston-on-Stour High School) because of demand. That makes sense to me - I don't know if any other Johnsons service needs double decks.
X7 uses them again
Quote from: Justin Tyme on September 22, 2020, 06:55:30 PM
Some X20 journeys interwork at Stratford with the 1/2/3 - the timetables show this on relevant journeys.
Before the lockdown the X20 was mainly a mix of Enviro 200s and Enviro 400s, but the double decks were parked up during the Spring and early Summer (judging by bustimes.org) and a Scania or two became regulars along with the E200s.
While the E400s were originally obtained for the X20 (when it was Birmingham - Stratford), one was soon scheduled for schoolday X7/50A workings (Stratford - Banbury and return) for a time. Two were also scheduled for Stratford Park & Ride on Saturdays for some time. According to a recent Facebook post it looks like one is now scheduled for school journeys on 3 (Stratford - Shipston-on-Stour High School) because of demand. That makes sense to me - I don't know if any other Johnsons service needs double decks.
I think they had to do it due to passengers using the X20.I rarley seen any full X20 buses when used to go to birmingham.But I don't understand why they renumbered it.And Won't E200mmc cope the X50.Passengers don't even use it and Sunday only
Quote from: bbs on September 23, 2020, 11:56:09 AM
I think they had to do it due to passengers using the X20.I rarley seen any full X20 buses when used to go to birmingham.But I don't understand why they renumbered it.And Won't E200mmc cope the X50.Passengers don't even use it and Sunday only
That's why it was curtailed to Shirley, then routed to Coventry! What do you mean about it being renumbered?
Johnsons running some school dupes alongside Arriva in MK.
Noted at least 6 Johnson coaches between Lichfield and Rugeley this morning on Amazon contracts.
Quote from: tphi12000 on October 29, 2020, 11:12:38 AM
Noted at least 6 Johnson coaches between Lichfield and Rugeley this morning on Amazon contracts.
They're also now running 3 coaches in Coventry heading for Rugby (BHX5), this was operated by Ridleys up until last week.
Johnsons currently have Optare Versa XFe Demonstrator OP07 ARE on loan, it did the 150/150A today.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50620947293_679a7f016f.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2k8cA2k)
Johnsons OP07 ARE Birmingham (https://flic.kr/p/2k8cA2k) by DJ Transport Photography (https://www.flickr.com/photos/stourvalley/), on Flickr
New Metrodecker for Johnsons
https://twitter.com/optaregroup/status/1335909140544299009?s=21
Quote from: Pat on December 08, 2020, 02:55:46 PM
New Metrodecker for Johnsons
https://twitter.com/optaregroup/status/1335909140544299009?s=21
Wonder what route it will run on?
Quote from: Busboy105 on December 08, 2020, 04:33:42 PM
Wonder what route it will run on?
My guess is either P&R or X20.
Presumably one of the cancelled Reading order?
Quote from: Pat on December 08, 2020, 02:55:46 PM
New Metrodecker for Johnsons
https://twitter.com/optaregroup/status/1335909140544299009?s=21
Quote from: mikestone on December 08, 2020, 08:37:21 PM
Presumably one of the cancelled Reading order?
Doesn't look like Johnsons livery to me, unless they're going to repaint it on delivery.
Quote from: Stu on December 08, 2020, 08:47:05 PM
Doesn't look like Johnsons livery to me, unless they're going to repaint it on delivery.
Its in Reading 702 London livery.
Are they just having the 1?
Quote from: mikestone on December 08, 2020, 08:37:21 PM
Presumably one of the cancelled Reading order?
The livery definitely looks "Green Line" doesn't it!
Quote from: 2206 on December 08, 2020, 08:52:41 PM
Its in Reading 702 London livery.
Are they just having the 1?
Quote from: D10 on December 08, 2020, 08:53:23 PM
The livery definitely looks "Green Line" doesn't it!
Quote from: Stu on December 08, 2020, 08:47:05 PM
Doesn't look like Johnsons livery to me, unless they're going to repaint it on delivery.
These were from the cancelled Greenline order, hence why they're in their livery
There are two coming.
Quote from: D10 on December 08, 2020, 08:53:23 PM
The livery definitely looks "Green Line" doesn't it!
With a dash of The Green Bus ?
Metrodecker YJ70 EWC has entered service this afternoon and is on the X20. I've just photographed it in Shirley heading towards Stratford...
Couple of questions on Johnsons if anyone knows anything about them....
Every morning on my commute into work I always pass around 5/6 of the companies coaches coming out of Birmingham along the Aston Expressway onto the M6 heading what I assume is back to base. This is at around half 6 every morning. What kind of contract would they be operating this early. Is it anything to do with Amazon? Around the same time I see a Catteralls of Southam with LED display saying Amazon so not sure if related. Either way good to see that during this climate they are getting daily work even if it's not to the demand it once was!
Also, I saw one of the 08 or 09 plate Scania Irizars debranded of the Johnsons name. It still had the rest of the livery. It was parked up in Birmingham next to a Whittles Coach. Has this been removed from Johnsons fleet and transferred to Whittles or has it left the company entirely and just purely a coincidence that they were next to each other?
Many thanks for my curiosity being cured!
Quote from: 966 on December 31, 2020, 10:54:42 PM
Couple of questions on Johnsons if anyone knows anything about them....
Every morning on my commute into work I always pass around 5/6 of the companies coaches coming out of Birmingham along the Aston Expressway onto the M6 heading what I assume is back to base. This is at around half 6 every morning. What kind of contract would they be operating this early. Is it anything to do with Amazon? Around the same time I see a Catteralls of Southam with LED display saying Amazon so not sure if related. Either way good to see that during this climate they are getting daily work even if it's not to the demand it once was!
Also, I saw one of the 08 or 09 plate Scania Irizars debranded of the Johnsons name. It still had the rest of the livery. It was parked up in Birmingham next to a Whittles Coach. Has this been removed from Johnsons fleet and transferred to Whittles or has it left the company entirely and just purely a coincidence that they were next to each other?
Many thanks for my curiosity being cured!
Yes, Johnsons do run a couple of coaches on the Amazon Rugeley contracts.
Most likely a transfer between Johnsons & Whittles (Whittles are part of Johnsons).
Quote from: 966 on December 31, 2020, 10:54:42 PM
Couple of questions on Johnsons if anyone knows anything about them....
Every morning on my commute into work I always pass around 5/6 of the companies coaches coming out of Birmingham along the Aston Expressway onto the M6 heading what I assume is back to base. This is at around half 6 every morning. What kind of contract would they be operating this early. Is it anything to do with Amazon? Around the same time I see a Catteralls of Southam with LED display saying Amazon so not sure if related. Either way good to see that during this climate they are getting daily work even if it's not to the demand it once was!
Also, I saw one of the 08 or 09 plate Scania Irizars debranded of the Johnsons name. It still had the rest of the livery. It was parked up in Birmingham next to a Whittles Coach. Has this been removed from Johnsons fleet and transferred to Whittles or has it left the company entirely and just purely a coincidence that they were next to each other?
Many thanks for my curiosity being cured!
Quote from: Pat on January 01, 2021, 01:45:52 AM
Yes, Johnsons do run a couple of coaches on the Amazon Rugeley contracts.
Most likely a transfer between Johnsons & Whittles (Whittles are part of Johnsons).
Not seen it around here unless it is stored or being worked on in whittles yard
Any one know if the luxury traveler coaches that where due last year but stored due to covid, have arrived yet
Quote from: Michael Bevan on December 09, 2020, 03:06:32 PM
Metrodecker YJ70 EWC has entered service this afternoon and is on the X20. I've just photographed it in Shirley heading towards Stratford...
What height are these buses?
I've seen Johnsons use deckers on their X20 service (such as in the quote above), but there is an aqueduct in Wootton Wawen that has a height of 14'0". I noticed the height when I went through it on Monday whilst at work.
I know that I've been under the bridge on the NX 4001 when they were running the Sunday Service, but I always thought they were at least 14' 3" tall.
Quote from: ellspurs on March 03, 2021, 06:27:32 PM
What height are these buses?
I've seen Johnsons use deckers on their X20 service (such as in the quote above), but there is an aqueduct in Wootton Wawen that has a height of 14'0". I noticed the height when I went through it on Monday whilst at work.
I know that I've been under the bridge on the NX 4001 when they were running the Sunday Service, but I always thought they were at least 14' 3" tall.
I've been under in 3225, begore they put the circular 'compulsary' signs up. I have an email from about 3 years ago promising to review that height. Obviously they ignored that promise.
AG metrobuses used to go under there every day on the Stratford school services.
Quote from: Cedric on February 24, 2021, 08:37:04 PM
Any one know if the luxury traveler coaches that where due last year but stored due to covid, have arrived yet
They are coming w/c 10 May. Hopefully the first one will operate its first tour on 17 May - the first day possible for operating holidays. Fingers Crossed.
Quote from: barry on March 05, 2021, 06:26:50 PM
They are coming w/c 10 May. Hopefully the first one will operate its first tour on 17 May - the first day possible for operating holidays. Fingers Crossed.
i am going on a luxury traveller holiday on the 17th of may sp i hope they do
Longridge Fell & the Forest of Bowland staying at the Gibbon Bridge Hotel is the first one lined up on the 17 May... we are keeping everything crossed.
Quote from: barry on March 06, 2021, 07:32:35 PM
Longridge Fell & the Forest of Bowland staying at the Gibbon Bridge Hotel is the first one lined up on the 17 May... we are keeping everything crossed.
that's where i am going. i was booked to on the launch trip last year so will keep every thing crossed too
The S85 from Redditch to Studley High School has, I think, been taken over by Johnsons from Dudley's.
Just after 8am this morning the Johnsons bus, showing S85 on the destination panel, was heading north along Evesham Road into Redditch. It then did a reverse turn into Jubilee Avenue and headed south along Evesham Road for a short distance before turning into Yvonne Road, heading presumably for the starting point in Windmill Drive where it should have been at 7.40am.
Hopefully a bit of route learning will get things on track for tomorrow.
On the tracker johnsons now have fleet numbers
That's to do with the ticketer machines
@Solo1 had it confirmed this morning
Does the allocation of fleet number 26 to OP07ARE mean Johnsons are keeping the vehicle as opposed to it being on loan ? ?
its gone now i saw a pic of it in Southend last week.
Quote from: Solo1 on March 19, 2021, 10:55:27 AM
On the tracker johnsons now had fleet numbers
Johnsons do not have fleet numbers.
@Tony I know the boss at johnsons and he told me himself this morning they are fleet numbers which may be applied to the buses eventually but just for the ticket machines for now
if thats the case then why has the optare been allocated a fleetnumber when it hasnt been there for weeks? its in southend now
Quote from: samuel derrington on March 19, 2021, 04:52:15 PM
@Tony I know the boss at johnsons and he told me himself this morning they are fleet numbers which may be applied to the buses eventually but just for the ticket machines for now
I don't really see why though. Johnsons have never had fleet numbers, and I can't see what difference they're going to make now.
Quote from: Cedric on March 06, 2021, 10:50:42 PM
that's where i am going. i was booked to on the launch trip last year so will keep every thing crossed too
Look What's Coming. They've been in a compound for 12 months but are about to hit the road next month. They will be re-registered 21 plates[/img]
Quote from: Pat on March 20, 2021, 10:09:43 AM
I don't really see why though. Johnsons have never had fleet numbers, and I can't see what difference they're going to make now.
Fleetnumbers are a big advantage for a number of reasons for both drivers and enthusiasts
Quote from: fleetline6477 on April 10, 2021, 08:31:58 PM
Fleetnumbers are a big advantage for a number of reasons for both drivers and enthusiasts
Fleet numbers are only really useful for companies with a large number of vehicles. For smaller companies, often the last three characters of the registration are used when referring to a vehicle, such as what Johnsons currently do.
Luxury Traveller Vehicles now delivered.
Irizar i8's YT21LGC & YR21LGD
Open Day for viewing and little test runs on Fri & Sat 14/15 May
Between 10.00-16.00
They look oh so smart and will be the bench mark for future touring vehicles.
Sorry the second one is YT21LGD
Quote from: samuel derrington on March 19, 2021, 04:52:15 PM
@Tony I know the boss at johnsons and he told me himself this morning they are fleet numbers which may be applied to the buses eventually but just for the ticket machines for now
You say you know the boss at johnsons? Can you ask him WHO is the oldest surviving family member? and how old is He?? Thanks
Quote from: barry on May 11, 2021, 06:16:17 PM
Sorry the second one is YT21LGD
Out at work this morning , heading south on the M5.
LGD Heading to sunny Torquay for 5 days. LGC went at the crack of dawn to the Forest of Bowland and the Ribble Valley, again back on Friday. Great to see tour customers back on board once again.
The X20 service seems to be having a route change in two weeks time, 21/06/21, between Solihull to Coventry to additionally serve the village/hamlet of Eastcote, presumably this has requested by TfWM and will be evaluated, it's quite a sparse rural area but there is some houses, some industrial premises and a garden centre. It adds a mile to each journey - so some extra excitement for those on a bus jolly.
Closer to Coventry there is plans for a considerable amount of new housing between the A45 and Eastern Green, planned spine roads has bus gates linking to/from Parkhill terminus and Pickford Green Lane, from a X20 perspective this could see off the silly routing at Millisons Wood, the 88/88A could also potentially come into play by extending from Balsall Common through to Coventry via Berkswell and the new estate, of course it will probably be a few years until any change occurs here and Cov Council have indicated they aspire for the NX X1 to serve the new estate, but the more services the better.
Quote from: JPC on June 05, 2021, 07:50:46 PM
The X20 service seems to be having a route change in two weeks time, 21/06/21, between Solihull to Coventry to additionally serve the village/hamlet of Eastcote, presumably this has requested by TfWM and will be evaluated, it's quite a sparse rural area but there is some houses, some industrial premises and a garden centre. It adds a mile to each journey - so some extra excitement for those on a bus jolly.
Closer to Coventry there is plans for a considerable amount of new housing between the A45 and Eastern Green, planned spine roads has bus gates linking to/from Parkhill terminus and Pickford Green Lane, from a X20 perspective this could see off the silly routing at Millisons Wood, the 88/88A could also potentially come into play by extending from Balsall Common through to Coventry via Berkswell and the new estate, of course it will probably be a few years until any change occurs here and Cov Council have indicated they aspire for the NX X1 to serve the new estate, but the more services the better.
Why is the route silly in Millisons Wood? Yes it's going back on itself for a total of 2 bus stops, but those 2 bus stops are busy (relative to the route) by office/staff from the nearby buildings and old people.
It's annoying to do when you're driving a knackered bus going up that hill but under Johnson's, this shouldn't be an issue.
Quote from: MW on June 05, 2021, 09:15:45 PM
Why is the route silly in Millisons Wood? Yes it's going back on itself for a total of 2 bus stops, but those 2 bus stops are busy (relative to the route) by office/staff from the nearby buildings and old people.
It's annoying to do when you're driving a knackered bus going up that hill but under Johnson's, this shouldn't be an issue.
Way back when, there used to be a bus-only right turn from the bottom of Millisons Wood onto the A45. The 159/900 would just trundle straight down, then turn right onto the A45 and continue on its merry way to Coventry. This got closed off in the mid-to-late 90s. The 900 used to follow the same route that the X20 did, until the route was changed to the current one with an extra 900A going down there every hour. Then at some point in the 2000s, the old 192/194/19X route was changed into the 82, and this bus eventually rerouted from Berkswell/Balsall Common and sent down to Millisons Wood, allowing the 900 to just skip it on its way to Coventry.
Quote from: MW on June 05, 2021, 09:15:45 PM
Why is the route silly in Millisons Wood? Yes it's going back on itself for a total of 2 bus stops, but those 2 bus stops are busy (relative to the route) by office/staff from the nearby buildings and old people.
It's annoying to do when you're driving a knackered bus going up that hill but under Johnson's, this shouldn't be an issue.
Quote from: ellspurs on June 05, 2021, 10:00:51 PM
Way back when, there used to be a bus-only right turn from the bottom of Millisons Wood onto the A45. The 159/900 would just trundle straight down, then turn right onto the A45 and continue on its merry way to Coventry. This got closed off in the mid-to-late 90s. The 900 used to follow the same route that the X20 did, until the route was changed to the current one with an extra 900A going down there every hour. Then at some point in the 2000s, the old 192/194/19X route was changed into the 82, and this bus eventually rerouted from Berkswell/Balsall Common and sent down to Millisons Wood, allowing the 900 to just skip it on its way to Coventry.
Yes, the X20 is only Coventry bound service at Millisons Wood so will be relatively busy and obviously needed, but I am indicating what I desire and may ultimately happen at some point in the future - a simplified routing of the X20 and X1 covering Millisons Wood and the new estate in both directions.
Could also be a lot simpler to divert the X20 up Pickford Green Lane, Upper Eastern Green Lane and Parkhill Drive. Would also give a full service through the Parkhill Estate, which currently only has one bus stop on the estate.
Quote from: ellspurs on June 05, 2021, 10:00:51 PM
Way back when, there used to be a bus-only right turn from the bottom of Millisons Wood onto the A45. The 159/900 would just trundle straight down, then turn right onto the A45 and continue on its merry way to Coventry. This got closed off in the mid-to-late 90s. The 900 used to follow the same route that the X20 did, until the route was changed to the current one with an extra 900A going down there every hour. Then at some point in the 2000s, the old 192/194/19X route was changed into the 82, and this bus eventually rerouted from Berkswell/Balsall Common and sent down to Millisons Wood, allowing the 900 to just skip it on its way to Coventry.
That right turn onto the A45 was a death experience at busy times. I think buses did it in two moves, waiting in the middle section of the dual-carriageway to make it onto the Coventry-bound section. Naturally it could take a while for a gap to appear, with cars travelling at 60mph.
Quote from: paulb1973 on June 06, 2021, 10:48:13 AM
That right turn onto the A45 was a death experience at busy times. I think buses did it in two moves, waiting in the middle section of the dual-carriageway to make it onto the Coventry-bound section. Naturally it could take a while for a gap to appear, with cars travelling at 60mph.
I remember that - it was dangerous. The gap was for all traffic until being restricted to buses only, no doubt for safety reasons, for the final year or two.
A few miles before that there was also a right turn for the eastbound 159/900 off the A45 onto the old Birmingham Road to get to Meriden - again crossing traffic pounding down the incline at 60 mph, although at least there was more visibility than at Millisons Wood.
Quote from: Justin Tyme on June 06, 2021, 03:42:54 PM
I remember that - it was dangerous. The gap was for all traffic until being restricted to buses only, no doubt for safety reasons, for the final year or two.
A few miles before that there was also a right turn for the eastbound 159/900 off the A45 onto the old Birmingham Road to get to Meriden - again crossing traffic pounding down the incline at 60 mph, although at least there was more visibility than at Millisons Wood.
Suppose I meant 'near-death experience' - but they were both dicey moves. I had thought that right-turn into Meriden was still open! (but, presumably not).
Quote from: paulb1973 on June 06, 2021, 06:34:23 PM
Suppose I meant 'near-death experience' - but they were both dicey moves. I had thought that right-turn into Meriden was still open! (but, presumably not).
They put a barrier across it when the bridge further up was built. You can still see where the road was, as they never filled it in (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.433634,-1.6001297,3a,75y,46.46h,78.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXUlT5eL79JBhzXCWxGOhHw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192).
The left turn onto the A45 from there is still rather dicey today. I tend to just drive up through Millisons Wood and Meriden and join the A45 at the other end.
Quote from: JPC on June 05, 2021, 07:50:46 PM
The X20 service seems to be having a route change in two weeks time, 21/06/21, between Solihull to Coventry to additionally serve the village/hamlet of Eastcote, presumably this has requested by TfWM and will be evaluated, it's quite a sparse rural area but there is some houses, some industrial premises and a garden centre. It adds a mile to each journey - so some extra excitement for those on a bus jolly.
I've found that this appears to actually be a necessity, as the B4102 Solihull Road is being closed for around 18 months for HS2 works: https://www.tfwm.org.uk/plan-your-journey/major-roadworks-and-events/interchange-m42-j6/solihull-road-closure/
Quote from: ellspurs on June 19, 2021, 08:46:05 PM
I've found that this appears to actually be a necessity, as the B4102 Solihull Road is being closed for around 18 months for HS2 works: https://www.tfwm.org.uk/plan-your-journey/major-roadworks-and-events/interchange-m42-j6/solihull-road-closure/
Correct - the reason is in fact M42 junction 6 works, with new slip roads being built that reach to below the B4102 bridge. Johnsons' website says the change is permanent, which I guess is likely to be a TfWM decision. A new retirement development has recently opened at Eastcote which could generate a few passengers.
The B4102 is now closed with all traffic diverted via Eastcote.
Metro decker taken out of service on x20 after taking the tree reflector off in Meriden. Shame the driver got too close to trees
Quote from: Tony on July 03, 2021, 12:48:13 PM
More personal critisism? Never done anything wrong in your life?
Must say those metrodeckers sh*t on the nx platinum brand. Tables inside and everything
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 03, 2021, 12:44:08 PM
Metro decker taken out of service on x20 after taking the tree reflector off in Meriden. Shame the driver got too close to trees
If you could actually drive a bus, you may be able to comment. You have no idea what its like.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 03, 2021, 01:07:40 PM
Must say those metrodeckers sh*t on the nx platinum brand. Tables inside and everything
Tables would reduce passenger capacity on busy city urban routes. And you'll probably be the first to complain when you can't get on them and its full because they've installed tables inside.
Also maybe they're suited to longer distance and more rural routes where there may be less passengers, but I don't think they're suited to busy Birmingham routes & generally shorter journeys.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 03, 2021, 01:07:40 PM
Must say those metrodeckers sh*t on the nx platinum brand. Tables inside and everything
They were cancelled orders for Reading Buses for Greenline work
I took my first ride on one of the two MetroDeckers recently -- UPSTAIRS -- and it was the most tastefully finished bus interior I've seen in over 50 years !! , - high quality, very fashionable seats with integrated (neat) car-style seat belts, and traditional /"retro" flooring, - nice colours !! -
I didn't like the two tables ( - one each side, behind the staircase), because it means having two lots of rear-facing seats, -- -- when I ride upstairs I want to look at the various views ahead, and don't want eye-contact with passengers in front of me ( - facing the wrong way!).
Also, I was lucky to be able to sit at the front, because further back the high-backed seats made it seem claustrophobic ("sardine-can job") - although that is probably true of many double-decker coaches (?)
-- but FOUR skylights in the roof helped to alleviate that feeling.
- nice new "shoe-shop" smell upstairs, too !!
:)
Quote from: DD12 on July 04, 2021, 11:40:14 AM
I took my first ride on one of the two MetroDeckers recently -- UPSTAIRS -- and it was the most tastefully finished bus interior I've seen in over 50 years !! , - high quality, very fashionable seats with integrated (neat) car-style seat belts, and traditional /"retro" flooring, - nice colours !! -
I didn't like the two tables ( - one each side, behind the staircase), because it means having two lots of rear-facing seats, -- -- when I ride upstairs I want to look at the various views ahead, and don't want eye-contact with passengers in front of me ( - facing the wrong way!).
Also, I was lucky to be able to sit at the front, because further back the high-backed seats made it seem claustrophobic ("sardine-can job") - although that is probably true of many double-decker coaches (?)
-- but FOUR skylights in the roof helped to alleviate that feeling.
- nice new "shoe-shop" smell upstairs, too !!
:)
Definitely the most luxurious vehicle I've ever travelled on. The rear seat facing isn't really an issue as the route doesn't tend to be that busy. Also having tables means families of more than 2 can all sit together
How much is a solihull station - catherine de barnes single or return ticket?
Quote from: 2206 on August 12, 2021, 05:43:49 PM
How much is a solihull station - catherine de barnes single or return tickett?
https://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/contentfiles/files/X20%20(2020).pdf
Here's the fare table for the X20.
Quote from: 2206 on August 12, 2021, 05:43:49 PM
How much is a solihull station - catherine de barnes single or return tickett?
Standard Network West Midlands area fares. So, £2.40.
I caught a 21 plate E200 MMC from Carrs Lane to Stratford and back today, I think YX21RTZ, was a nice route as well. I noticed the timetables in Warwickshire made no reference to the service operating as the X50 today as they said X20 on them.
Stagecoach put up flags for X18 on Evasham Road I noticed which is good as at least one flag somewhere on the X50 route in Warwickshire didn't have any services listed on it. Is there any ticket information for the X18 service as well?
Quote from: 2206 on September 12, 2021, 03:09:32 PM
Stagecoach put up flags for X18 on Evasham Road I noticed which is good as at least one flag somewhere on the X50 route in Warwickshire didn't have any services listed on it. Is there any ticket information for the X18 service as well?
Have a look on Stagecoach's website, or ask in the correct forum board please.
Quote from: 2206 on September 12, 2021, 03:09:32 PM
I caught a 21 plate E200 MMC from Carrs Lane to Stratford and back today, I think YX21RTZ, was a nice route as well. I noticed the timetables in Warwickshire made no reference to the service operating as the X50 today as they said X20 on them.
Stagecoach put up flags for X18 on Evasham Road I noticed which is good as at least one flag somewhere on the X50 route in Warwickshire didn't have any services listed on it. Is there any ticket information for the X18 service as well?
Most of the X50 bus stops at the southern end (Stratford - Chipping Norton) only show 50 on the flags. If I remember rightly, the timetables show Johnson's journeys with a note saying these are X50. Think the Warwickshire bit North of Stratford is similar. At the end of the day it's the same route for those bits so doesn't matter
Surprised this has not been mentioned on London bus group it states national express have taken over Johnsons and whittles.
Quote from: stephen ford on September 18, 2021, 09:50:19 AM
Surprised this has not been mentioned on London bus group it states national express have taken over Johnsons and whittles.
Any source for this?
Quote from: stephen ford on September 18, 2021, 09:50:19 AM
Surprised this has not been mentioned on London bus group it states national express have taken over Johnsons and whittles.
I am surprised that enthusiasts are being informed over shareholders..
I went to the forum and found this:
QuoteJohnson's of Henley-in-Arden and subsidiary Whittle's Coaches of Kidderminster have been taken over by National Express.
Source: Bus News, week 18/09/21 (Londonstransport Google group)
https://tangytango.proboards.com/thread/10377/ceased-bus-companies?page=13&scrollTo=655880
Quote from: ellspurs on September 18, 2021, 10:31:52 AM
I went to the forum and found this:
https://tangytango.proboards.com/thread/10377/ceased-bus-companies?page=13&scrollTo=655880
I cannot find the source referred to. At this point in time it sounds like a bit of an unsubstantiated claim to me, unless someone can find a verifiable source for this.
Its on London transport bus news weekly report dated yesterday, normally very reliable perhaps Tony can confirm if possible.
Tony would not be able to confirm or deny anything until an official statement is made as nx are on stock market certain protocols must be in place
Quote from: metrocity on September 18, 2021, 10:27:23 AM
I am surprised that enthusiasts are being informed over shareholders..
It came up on a Facebook posting last week as well, an Johnson's PA completely denied all knowledge
Diversions in Stratford Town Centre today due to a food festival. They are unable to serve Wood Street/Bridge Street today and tomorrow.
Coming into Stratford I think it unloaded at Arden Street by Stratford Hospital, the stop I boarded at on the way out had no timetable/no numbers on the flag, etc, the one by the railway station, you'd think it was out of use if you didn't know otherwise.
There's also a stagecoach flag on a lampost by the Beefeater in Hockley Heath just before the TFWM X20 bus stop as well.
Quote from: stephen ford on September 18, 2021, 11:22:08 AM
Its on London transport bus news weekly report dated yesterday, normally very reliable perhaps Tony can confirm if possible.
If it is true they'd take on the X20, X50, wonder if they'd be incorporated into NX West Midlands?
Quote from: 2206 on September 18, 2021, 02:55:47 PM
If it is true they'd take on the X20, X50, wonder if they'd be incorporated into NX West Midlands?
Its not true, so don't start getting carried away.
Quote from: ellspurs on September 18, 2021, 10:31:52 AM
I went to the forum and found this:
https://tangytango.proboards.com/thread/10377/ceased-bus-companies?page=13&scrollTo=655880
I sincerely hope this isn't true. Don't want nx ruining more of the network
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 18, 2021, 06:28:50 PM
I sincerely hope this isn't true. Don't want nx ruining more of the network
Well luckily it isn't true, as has already been stated earlier.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 18, 2021, 06:28:50 PM
I sincerely hope this isn't true. Don't want nx ruining more of the network
NX fares might be a bit less than Johnsons if a day ticket was valid on these routes as its £4, if they ever ran them, as say Hockley Heath to Stratford is £6.30 return for example. But then again Johnsons fares might be priced higher to keep the service viable in more rural area and less passengers.
Quote from: 2206 on September 18, 2021, 08:28:30 PM
NX fares might be a bit less than Johnsons if a day ticket was valid on these routes as its £4, if they ever ran them, as say Hockley Heath to Stratford is £6.30 return for example. But then again Johnsons fares might be priced higher to keep the service viable in more rural area and less passengers.
Quote from: Stu on September 18, 2021, 03:09:27 PM
Its not true, so don't start getting carried away.
Quote from: Tony on September 18, 2021, 02:39:54 PM
It came up on a Facebook posting last week as well, an Johnson's PA completely denied all knowledge
Quote from: Stu on September 18, 2021, 08:46:38 PM
I didn't say they are going to run it, I was mentioning the difference in fares, I guess its down to rural area, less passengers, etc.
I guess a lot would currently take the train to some of the places X20/X50 goes as well, so that will also affect passenger numbers, I did notice off peak return from Henley In Arden to Stratford is slightly less than the return on the bus. (But if a £4 all day ticket was valid out there like we have in the West Midlands, i'm sure passengers would benefit, with reduced fares).
Recently I saw a comment on caption of a photo of a Johnsons of Hodthorpe (near Worksop) that they had been taken over by National Express, but I cannot remember what site the photo was on.
Perhaps this is the Johnsons that NX has taken over and not the Henley-in-Arden company?
Quote from: Ian Hardy on September 18, 2021, 09:17:14 PM
Recently I saw a comment on caption of a photo of a Johnsons of Hodthorpe (near Worksop) that they had been taken over by National Express, but I cannot remember what site the photo was on.
Perhaps this is the Johnsons that NX has taken over and not the Henley-in-Arden company?
If a PLC takes over another operator they announce it to the stock exchange and shareholders.
National Express have not made any such announcements, so have not taken over anybody
Guys on one of my days off I'd like to try and catch one of the metro city DDs anyone know if there allocated to a specific route or is it just pot luck
I read this when I got Ian's weekly Bus News on Friday and the first thing I did was to check this page becauuse I knew if it was true then it would be a major topic of conversation. What I found was nothing. so I assumed it was wrong and didn't think about it again.
Quote from: danny on September 19, 2021, 02:04:25 PM
Guys on one of my days off I'd like to try and catch one of the metro city DDs anyone know if there allocated to a specific route or is it just pot luck
I mean your best chance is stand in Solihull waiting for the X20 in either direction and use bustimes to track it.
Could be on any service yea it's been on X20 but check bus times to.see what services they are on
Quote from: bususer28 on September 19, 2021, 07:02:40 PM
I mean your best chance is stand in Solihull waiting for the X20 in either direction and use bustimes to track it.
Could go to Stratford and check bus times, as there are a few more routes at Stratford they could be on, as they run more routes there. X20 has some interworking with some of the services that run south of Stratford I believe aswell, so might not stay on there all day.
When I caught the X20 yesterday I had a E200 both ways, the white 67 plate one and a Johnsons livery one the other way and its hourly, so you could be waiting a while in Solihull.
Quote from: danny on September 19, 2021, 02:04:25 PM
Guys on one of my days off I'd like to try and catch one of the metro city DDs anyone know if there allocated to a specific route or is it just pot luck
It does seem to be a bit 'hit and miss', but this is where BusTimes is your friend ;)
https://bustimes.org/operators/johnsons-excelbus/vehicles
YJ50EWD hasn't been used since 9th September, so is presumably off the road for some reason.
The other one, YJ50EWC, apart from a day on the 150 on Friday, seems to do a few trips on the X20, before switching onto the 50/50A, then the 3 and X7.
Quote from: Tony on September 19, 2021, 09:23:01 AM
If a PLC takes over another operator they announce it to the stock exchange and shareholders.
National Express have not made any such announcements, so have not taken over anybody
By the looks of it
@Tony , because Johnson coaches are now taking part in the pre-packaged coach holidays on the National Express website, people are assuming that National Express have taken over Johnsons.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 19, 2021, 08:16:12 PM
By the looks of it @Tony , because Johnson coaches are now taking part in the pre-packaged coach holidays on the National Express website, people are assuming that National Express have taken over Johnsons.
Johnson's also run Amazon services under contract to NX, and NX used Johnson's toilet drop when they ran the JLR
Quote from: Stu on September 19, 2021, 08:00:06 PM
It does seem to be a bit 'hit and miss', but this is where BusTimes is your friend ;)
https://bustimes.org/operators/johnsons-excelbus/vehicles
YJ50EWD hasn't been used since 9th September, so is presumably off the road for some reason.
The other one, YJ50EWC, apart from a day on the 150 on Friday, seems to do a few trips on the X20, before switching onto the 50/50A, then the 3 and X7.
EWC is currently on an X20 on its way to Solihull, on Solihull Road.
Edit: It appears to have spent most of its time today on the Park and Ride in Stratford.
Quote from: Stu on September 19, 2021, 08:00:06 PM
YJ50EWD hasn't been used since 9th September, so is presumably off the road for some reason.
In for repairs at the moment. Timescale not known. :o
Johnsons have posted a news item to confirm that the business is NOT being sold, and will continue as a family concern: -
https://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news/312/we-are-and-will-continue-to/ (https://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/news/312/we-are-and-will-continue-to/)
Johnsons have re-cast their South Warwickshire services from 25th October -->clicky<-- (https://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/timetables/)
Interesting that they've merged the weird timetable of the 6/7/50A and the 77/77A into a more sensible arrangement, and from a personal point I'm happy they're providing better links to Banbury
I was sitting on a train at Banbury the other day while they sorted a signalling problem and idly perusing travelinemidlands (which I see is no more) for the possibility of bailing out what poor inter-urban connections it had.
Quote from: mikestone on October 07, 2021, 09:40:40 PM
I was sitting on a train at Banbury the other day while they sorted a signalling problem and idly perusing travelinemidlands (which I see is no more) for the possibility of bailing out what poor inter-urban connections it had.
To the rest of Oxfordshire and out to Brackley it's alright, but yeah north and west connections are a bit crappy here. Shame really but I've got the train for anything that direction I suppose
The trouble is that Banbury is quite an isolated town. Stratford and Leamington are both about 20 miles away, with few well-heeled villages in between.
Bus services north from Banbury have never been good, but believe it or not they are better than they were twenty years ago.
I hope Johnsons continue to send the occasional double decker to Banbury. I managed a ride on an Enviro 400 on the X20 to Stratford and then the 50A to Banbury one day in the summer - the scenery was glorious.
Do Johnson's sell like an all day ticket for their own network including X20?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 17, 2021, 10:14:01 PM
Do Johnson's sell like an all day ticket for their own network including X20?
https://www.johnsonscoaches.co.uk/fares/
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 17, 2021, 10:14:01 PM
Do Johnson's sell like an all day ticket for their own network including X20?
Unfortunately not, only local Warwickshire/Stratford/Solihull & Coventry tickets.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 17, 2021, 10:14:01 PM
Do Johnson's sell like an all day ticket for their own network including X20?
They used to, bought one about 3 years ago when I came down to Banbury the slow way on the bus to view places to move to. Messaged Johnsons on Facebook at the time to ask about it because I saw mention of it on the website, and they confirmed it existed. The driver on the day selling it took ages to find it and none of the other drivers I showed it to had heard of it.
Can't find mention of it anymore so I guess they quietly discontinued, but they do a "Warwickshire" day ticket still. Worth asking them direct.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 17, 2021, 10:14:01 PM
Do Johnson's sell like an all day ticket for their own network including X20?
In fact, yes they do! It is £11 adult, and is valid on all Johnsons bus services. I last bought one in August - I find it's best to ask the driver for an "£11 day ticket".
Unfortunately all mention of it fell off the website some time ago, but it definitely is still available. The price may be relatively high, but it is worth it for a day round trip to Banbury (or Moreton-in-Marsh) and back.
Shame that the deckers don't seem to be used on the X20 or Banbury services that much. Seems they are dominant on the P&R and 2 service. I know a decker comes off p&R at end of day and runs an x20 service. Also seems they are good at allocating the exact same vehicle to the exact same board every day
I guess different route have different loadings at different times. Operators have to juggle vehicles accordingly. I guess I could wait for ages to see one of the Optare deckers on the S83 !!
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 30, 2021, 03:21:56 PM
Shame that the deckers don't seem to be used on the X20 or Banbury services that much. Seems they are dominant on the P&R and 2 service. I know a decker comes off p&R at end of day and runs an x20 service. Also seems they are good at allocating the exact same vehicle to the exact same board every day
Deckers regularly down here in Banbury. One does the school 76X (former X7) service most days, which are the only really busy journeys
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 17, 2021, 10:14:01 PM
Do Johnson's sell like an all day ticket for their own network including X20?
Quote from: Justin Tyme on October 18, 2021, 03:36:48 PM
In fact, yes they do! It is £11 adult, and is valid on all Johnsons bus services. I last bought one in August - I find it's best to ask the driver for an "£11 day ticket"....
Can confirm, yes they do, bought one yesterday. Driver took a minute to find it on the ticket machine but he was vaguely aware something like it existed. Still £11
Whittles have Ford HF67YGE, when did they get this?
Not sure if its a van for staff or a minibus?
Does it have a fleet number?
Have they still got any Johnson's vehicles at their depot?
seen several johnsons vehicles around my home this last couple of weeks, there is a school around the corner so they may have been some school trips. I see in the n&p dated 12/11/21 whittles have had there vehicle allocatio put to 17.
Quote from: saiwah007 on November 11, 2021, 11:40:27 PM
Whittles have Ford HF67YGE, when did they get this?
Not sure if its a van for staff or a minibus?
It was advertsed on "e-bay" earlier in the year !
Quote from: bewdley5 on November 15, 2021, 01:01:39 AM
seen several johnsons vehicles around my home this last couple of weeks, there is a school around the corner so they may have been some school trips. I see in the n&p dated 12/11/21 whittles have had there vehicle allocatio put to 17.
Can anyone tell me how many vehicles Whittles were allowed previously, please ?
there current fleet numbers 11
Quote from: DD12 on November 15, 2021, 02:14:45 PM
Can anyone tell me how many vehicles Whittles were allowed previously, please ?
Their previous authorisation was 13
As recent as 2004 they had a license for 54 vehicles , whether they actually operated that number was of course another matter.
Quote from: B61 ANDREW on November 15, 2021, 09:29:53 PM
As recent as 2004 they had a license for 54 vehicles , whether they actually operated that number was of course another matter.
They probably did. Whittles was quite a large independent operator for many years, and ran buses as well as coaches until shortly before Johnsons bought the (coaching) remains of the business from East Yorkshire in 2015.
Not forgetting four [?] depots.
Whittles have only had one depot in kidderminster for years on the stourport
Thanks for the info, gentlemen.
Johnson's have a new MMC 71 plate I believe. On the 150B according to bus times
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 25, 2021, 04:34:42 PM
Johnson's have a new MMC 71 plate I believe. On the 150B according to bus times
From Bus times looks like there are two new E40D MMC - 56 SK71CLJ & 57 SK71CLN. Looks like they entered service on 11/23 and 11/24.
Quote from: B61 ANDREW on November 16, 2021, 10:05:06 PM
Not forgetting four [?] depots.
I'm going back to my "younger days" with depots at Kidderminster , Highley , Cleobury Mortimer , Ludlow , Alveley and Mouse Lane in Kidderminster. I guess this would be the early nineties. :-[
Kidderminster depot of whittles was mill street for repairs and the office the actual depot was in clensmore part of kiddeminster and highley where whittles depots
mouse lane and cleobury mortimer where m&m coaches which whittles ran as a subsidiary company for years and later the m&m name was dropped
ludlow depot was corvedale motors which whittles ran in the same way as m&m do not know to much of the history of that depot.
alverley was not a depot as such just a couple of vehicles parked at back of petrol station midland red parked some there also. it was owned by narburgh coaches who stopped trading do not think it became part of whittles there seams to be more and more Johnsons vehicles around kidderminster hardley seen any whittles vehicles around
Saw a new white E400 MMC on the X20 in Solihull today heading towards Coventry at 13:00. Bus times says SK71CLN.
I must say how impressed I was sampling the new 71 reg mmc today. The nice smell of a new bus, nice interior and then heart radio blasting through the speakers on board. Simply outstanding and a great addition to their already modern fleet.
Just noticed , no doubt belatedly , that Johnsons have two 07 plate Bova Magiq coaches for sale.
Alexander/Dennis E400 SN 65 OJA plus at least one other of the three have been painted in all over yellow pending sale to Bournemouth Yellow Bus. They are due to leave the fleet within the next few days.
Mercedes minibus PO15LFL is now in Whittles livery and carries fleetnumber 3.
Apparently 56 has been on the 87/88 this afternoon. Imagine that was one scenic ride, hopefully it still has a full set of windows
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 04, 2022, 04:55:06 PM
Apparently 56 has been on the 87/88 this afternoon. Imagine that was one scenic ride, hopefully it still has a full set of windows
Johnsons buses do not have fleetnumbers, so not sure what you are referring to
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 04, 2022, 04:55:06 PM
Apparently 56 has been on the 87/88 this afternoon. Imagine that was one scenic ride, hopefully it still has a full set of windows
I am told it's true that a double decker was on the 88 - according to bustimes it was 57 (Enviro 400 SK71 CLN). It's the first time I've known a double decker be used on the 88.
I've not heard of one reaching Moreton-in-Marsh, but double deckers seem to have been used on all other services.
Quote from: Tony on February 04, 2022, 05:39:07 PM
Johnsons buses do not have fleetnumbers, so not sure what you are referring to
Presumably this: https://bustimes.org/operators/johnsons-excelbus/vehicles
56 is E400MMC SK71CLJ (which has been nowhere near the 87/88 today according to bus times. 57 however, has.
Quote from: Justin Tyme on February 04, 2022, 05:43:01 PM
I am told it's true that a double decker was on the 88 - according to bustimes it was 57 (Enviro 400 SK71 CLN). It's the first time I've known a double decker be used on the 88.
I've not heard of one reaching Moreton-in-Marsh, but double deckers seem to have been used on all other services.
If you want to find out whats been on route 88 use Regional Vehicle Finder and run query "history JBH-88" to find all vehicles used on 88. I did see a double decker one afternoon last summer but didn't get picture.
Quote from: Tony on February 04, 2022, 05:39:07 PM
Johnsons buses do not have fleetnumbers, so not sure what you are referring to
On bus times all Johnsons buses have 2 digit numbers infront of them in the same way NX and Diamond do. Could it be that they just don't display them externally on vehicles like NX and Diamind do?
Quote from: fleetline6477 on February 04, 2022, 10:14:27 PM
On bus times all Johnsons buses have 2 digit numbers infront of them in the same way NX and Diamond do. Could it be that they just don't display them externally on vehicles like NX and Diamind do?
Landflight and Claribels have numbers as well on there, though they don't on the actual vehicles. They might be ticket machine numbers or something as well?
Yeah, it's a Ticketer ID for that vehicle iirc
Quote from: JoNi on February 04, 2022, 06:34:00 PM
If you want to find out whats been on route 88 use Regional Vehicle Finder and run query "history JBH-88" to find all vehicles used on 88. I did see a double decker one afternoon last summer but didn't get picture.
There's also a way to do that on bustimes, by going to this page (https://bustimes.org/services/88-solihull-balsall-common-via-warwick-rd/vehicles), you can see everything that's been on there, currently as far back as November.
Quote from: DD12 on November 18, 2021, 11:40:33 AM
Thanks for the info, gentlemen.
whittles have picture of additions fleet 8,16.30 and 35 seat vehicle pictures on whittles facebook page.
1 i can id from picture is BA 68 YSP ford transit looks like there is fleet no 4 under mirror
YX16NYB - Volvo B11R Plaxton Panther at Hartshorne Volvo, Pensnett.
Most operaters are experiencing driver shortages but it seems Johnsons have been struggling. Last Saturday they were gonna pretty much hardly run the X20 and 150 but I believe in the end managed to run a service every two hours . It was said in response to a complain that they are 11 drivers short of fulfilling their rotas.
A coach operating the 08:50 X20 to Stratford Upon Avon in Solihull this morning.
A third 'Luxury Traveller' i8, registered YT22 EXE, has joined the fleet
Quote from: CL on April 03, 2022, 01:47:49 AMA third 'Luxury Traveller' i8, registered YT22 EXE, has joined the fleet
And it is stunning, great addition to the fleet. What went in place of it?
Quote from: BN on April 03, 2022, 09:16:22 AMAnd it is stunning, great addition to the fleet. What went in place of it?
I'm unsure whether it's a direct replacement, but I've heard they were ridding themselves of their VDL Futuras
150 is being reduced to every 2 hours from Monday according to new temporary timetable on their website.
Quote from: 2206 on April 08, 2022, 10:44:10 PM150 is being reduced to every 2 hours from Monday according to new temporary timetable on their website.
The times are as follows from Worcester:
9:00am
11:00am
1:00pm
4:30pm
6:30pm
Johnsons just posted on Facebook that the bus operation has been acquired by Diamond
QuoteJohnsons 'Excelbus' Bus Services to be taken over by Diamond Bus Ltd.
Please note that Johnsons holidays, excursions, private hire and School service operations are not part of this agreement.
Peter Johnson, our Operations Director says, "As we look forward and consider the challenges of meeting the needs of air quality and environmental issues, through electric, and then hydrogen powered vehicles, we have decided that we must now focus on building our coach business in terms of holidays, day trips, private coach hire and school services.
Therefore, we have made the decision to sell our 'Excelbus' operations to Rotala PLC's subsidiary, Diamond Bus Limited.
This announcement brings to an end our involvement in local bus services, after nearly 23 years of operation. The deal includes 18 buses and other assets and is expected to be concluded on 29th May. This will increase Rotala's presence in Warwickshire and the West Midlands as the deal includes all bus services currently provided by ourselves, including the X20 Stratford – Solihull service, the 150 Redditch – Birmingham services and Stratford's Park and Ride services.
All our 'Excelbus' commercial and tendered work, plus most drivers and some operating staff will join the Diamond Bus West Midlands operation, working from Diamond's existing depot at Redditch. Simon Dunn, Rotala Chief Executive, says that the vehicles will rapidly be rebranded into the Diamond Bus livery. While the buses move to Diamond Bus, Johnsons will continue to operate 45 coaches and employ 180 staff under our existing long-established family brand name.
John Johnson, Commercial Director, adds, "We are proud to continue to offer the high-quality coach services Johnsons is known for. As an industry leader and multi-award winner we are committed to growing our coach business for the long term, and we look forward to continuing to provide a high quality and friendly service for our customers."
You'll be pleased to know that most of our bus drivers are being taken on by Diamond Bus, so although the name on the buses and the livery will be different, you will continue to see some familiar friendly faces at the wheel!
On behalf of all of us here at Johnsons, we would like to thank all our bus service customers, who have supported us over many years; your patronage and loyalty is very much appreciated. We hope that you will continue to travel with us until Sunday 29th May and that you will have no hesitation to travel with Diamond Bus from Monday 30th May onwards.
Finally, at this point in time as this sale is announced, we do want to offer our heart-felt thanks, to all of our bus drivers, whether long standing or those who have more recently joined us, for their great service, support and loyalty. Again, it is very much appreciated.
https://www.facebook.com/839463772769840/posts/5007743022608540/
Quite unfortunate to see Claribels and Johnsons go And taken by diamond. I do believe diamond can help the west midlands in growing though but its decreasing the amount of smaller operators to have tendered routes.
Quote from: Martin on April 10, 2022, 11:33:37 PMThe times are as follows from Worcester:
9:00am
11:00am
1:00pm
4:30pm
6:30pm
Is there really any need for a service that has a three and half hour gap in the afternoon and every two hours at other times? Surely that can't be making any money or even providing a necessary service?
Interesting to note Johnsons on Twitter have posted (& had it retweeted by TfWm!), that due to driver shortage, that some journeys (mostly X20 & 150) won't be running today.
Quote from: Westy on April 30, 2022, 09:20:50 AMInteresting to note Johnsons on Twitter have posted (& had it retweeted by TfWm!), that due to driver shortage, that some journeys (mostly X20 & 150) won't be running today.
Its been like that for weeks
A number of drivers walked out following the sale announcement so it's worse at the moment.
Noticeably less Johnson's presence in Solihull yesterday too.
Have any johnsons vechicles been transfered to whittles just seen at least one with no lettering on the nearside and a school childrens symbol in bottom conerer of screen by the door . (another stighting one with lettering on offside}
as i am inside and when they went passed my place i saw going different ways so can not say if it was same vehiclr
Current the following ex-Johnsons vehicles are working out of Kidderminster. Some are temporary loans...
Midi Coaches: LFL (permanent)
Midi Coaches: Yu Tongs - SVC, SVD
49 Seater Coach: Plaxton Volvo - NYA
53 Seater Coach: Plaxton Volvo - NYC
Would not supprise me if the volos will stop with whittles as there fleet is all volos
i have seen a ford painted in whittles livery is that ex johnsons
Diamond have announced that they will be taking over some Johnsons services early, from 9th May, to help them out with current 'operational difficulties'.
https://www.diamondbuses.com/news/johnsons-welcome/
Also note the 150 service is being curtailed to operate between Redditch and Kings Heath only.
Quote from: Stu on May 05, 2022, 07:04:19 PMDiamond have announced that they will be taking over some Johnsons services early, from 9th May, to help them out with current 'operational difficulties'.
https://www.diamondbuses.com/news/johnsons-welcome/
Also note the 150 service is being curtailed to operate between Redditch and Kings Heath only.
Another long standing link going then, Birmingham to Redditch via Alcester Road
Quote from: sonic84 on May 05, 2022, 07:40:08 PMAnother long standing link going then, Birmingham to Redditch via Alcester Road
It's not clear if this is just a short-term measure due to short notice.
But if people aren't using the route, 'fond memories' won't keep it going. Johnsons had already recently broken it up into the 64, 149 and 150 with frequency reductions. With Diamond already operating the 50, at least a link is being retained.
Keeps the vehicle requirement to 2 buses rather than 3 I'd imagine.
Last time I looked at the 150, it's something like 62 mins each way. If they maintained an hourly frequency along the whole route without interworking with anything else, they'd have a bus sitting around for over half an hour, every hour. I'm pretty sure Johnson's had it interworking the 64 at one point.
Having said that, it can be timed to interwork the Diamond 50 to make things more efficient. Given the rumours that the 50 will be moving back to Tividale and the 150 being run out of Redditch, would make this unlikely to happen.
Is X20 not going to Meriden and Coventry anymore? Just the 89 in Catherine De Barnes and Hampton In Arden if thats the case then (I know Hampton In Arden has the train to)?
What is 20 Shirley to Stratford?
Quote from: 2206 on May 05, 2022, 09:51:33 PMIs X20 not going to Meriden and Coventry anymore? What is 20 Shirley to Stratford?
Probably just a mistype
Quote from: 2206 on May 05, 2022, 09:51:33 PMIs X20 not going to Meriden and Coventry anymore? Just the 89 in Catherine De Barnes and Hampton In Arden if thats the case then (I know Hampton In Arden has the train to)?
What is 20 Shirley to Stratford?
The X20 is two subsidised routes merged into one.
X20 - Solihull to Coventry (funded by TfWM)
20 Shirley to Stratford (funded by WCC)
I believe the Shirley to Solihull section is commercial. I'd imagine for simplicity, the X20 will be operated as it is at the moment, and that as trainbasher says, this is a typo.
Looks like, with it terminating at Kings Heath, the 150 will only need one bus with Diamond. The 149 uses a double decker for the schooltime journeys, so it will be interesting to see what Diamond uses on it next week - an existing DD at Redditch, a Streetdeck or something else?
The announcements about the transfer said that existing services will be unchanged. While this isn't the case with the 150, I think it is likely that the Solihull - Coventry section of the X20 has been left off the list in error. It is a TfWM contract, and of course serves the Millisons Wood area of Meriden as well as Catherine-de-Barnes and Hampton-in-Arden.
I suspect the mention of the 20 is an error too. 20 was Stratford - Shirley Station, which ran after the X20 to Birmingham was withdrawn in 2018 and before the service was diverted to Solihull (and on to Coventry replacing the 82) in 2019.
Quote from: bewdley5 on May 05, 2022, 11:00:42 AMWould not supprise me if the volos will stop with whittles as there fleet is all volos
i have seen a ford painted in whittles livery is that ex johnsons
If by 'Ford' you are referring to a 'transit' style minibus, then no, it was a second hand purchase and has never operated for Johnsons
i think the C89 runs over the x20 route in part & says 88 Coventry -Solihull so could 88 replace X20
Quote from: Solo1 on May 06, 2022, 08:52:13 AMi think the C89 runs over the x20 route in part & says 88 Coventry -Solihull so could 88 replace X20
The 89 is in part the former 192/4 if you look at its route up to Tile Hill. Plus 3bpd replacing a hourly route - I don't think that'll go down too well with the natives
Quote from: 2206 on May 05, 2022, 09:51:33 PMIs X20 not going to Meriden and Coventry anymore? Just the 89 in Catherine De Barnes and Hampton In Arden if thats the case then (I know Hampton In Arden has the train to)?
What is 20 Shirley to Stratford?
Isn't the 20 the service that was introduced when the X20 stopped going Brum? Shirley Station to Stratford?
Quote from: Jack on May 06, 2022, 04:59:36 PMIsn't the 20 the service that was introduced when the X20 stopped going Brum? Shirley Station to Stratford?
Yes, it doesn't run anymore. It seems added in error, as its gone from the list now.
Noticed one of the 68 plate Classic E200s with its logos etc removed yesterday on the 87/88. Presumably preparing to return back to the lease company.
Is anything moving over to Diamond for tomorrow?
Maybe coming to KEV's
Quote from: igogeneral on May 08, 2022, 03:14:53 PMMaybe coming to KEV's
Makes sense. I believe they were uprated to Euro 6 before entering service at Johnson's.
Quote from: MW on May 08, 2022, 02:00:10 PMIs anything moving over to Diamond for tomorrow?
I don't know, but the services transferring tomorrow require just 3 vehicles altogether.
Quote from: MW on May 08, 2022, 03:22:12 PMMakes sense. I believe they were uprated to Euro 6 before entering service at Johnson's.
The two MCW were always Euro 6
Quote from: igogeneral on May 09, 2022, 08:54:11 AMThe two MCW were always Euro 6
I'm referring to the Classic E200.
Do Johnsons have set vehicles or vehicle types per duty? I am wanting to get on the Scanias, Metrodeckers and Tempos before Johnsons cease but they don't track on bustimes anymore so I can't work out where the buses go. I can see though from when they did track in April, buses seemed to do some funky stuff, cross interworking basically everything.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
best place to get them is Stratford on Avon as most services run from there metro deckers could be on X20 ,park & ride
Quote from: IMarkeh on May 12, 2022, 12:38:50 AMDo Johnsons have set vehicles or vehicle types per duty? I am wanting to get on the Scanias, Metrodeckers and Tempos before Johnsons cease but they don't track on bustimes anymore so I can't work out where the buses go. I can see though from when they did track in April, buses seemed to do some funky stuff, cross interworking basically everything.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
I've seen every vehicle type on the Banbury routes, even on the same journeys, so pretty pot luck to be honest. Stratford is by far your best bet
Thank you both for your help.
'Pot luck' is no fun when most of Johnsons routes don't time to connect haha. Means you go up and back on the same bus or you sit around places forever waiting for another bus. Guess I'll just have to make a plan and hope it works. out.
You will see more Euro 5 and less vehicles on the Stratford and Leamington routes due to contractual requirements.
Euro 6 vehicles will usually be on the X20, 87 & 88 due to the contractual requirements on most journeys but not all.
Does anyone know what the future holds for Scania SN58FWL/B10JCT ?? It does not appear to have had much use this year. :undecided:
Quote from: B61 ANDREW on May 18, 2022, 02:31:13 PMDoes anyone know what the future holds for Scania SN58FWL/B10JCT ?? It does not appear to have had much use this year. :undecided:
According to BusTimes it last tracked on 4th March (all Johnsons buses seemed to have stopped tracking from 13th April), and as it is not included in the acquisition deal, I would guess it probably doesn't have much of a future.
https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?msg=300813
QuoteAccording to BusTimes it last tracked on 4th March (all Johnsons buses seemed to have stopped tracking from 13th April), and as it is not included in the acquisition deal, I would guess it probably doesn't have much of a future.
https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?msg=300813
Its MoT expired on 23rd April as well
Does Johnson's bus have a day ticket that allows you on the whole network?
Can any please tell me what the permeant whittles fleet is now . as i have seen vehicles in whittles colours with fleet number that do not show on tonys and nor on my own not been able to catch the regs nos
Quote from: GoldenSquid on May 18, 2022, 07:29:48 PMDoes Johnson's bus have a day ticket that allows you on the whole network?
Yes, £11, used it last in November myself.
The drivers might take a while to find it on the ticket machine because they never sold them much but it does still exits, best to ask them for an "£11 day ticket" they might be able to work it out
Quote from: Kevin on May 19, 2022, 01:43:08 PMYes, £11, used it last in November myself.
The drivers might take a while to find it on the ticket machine because they never sold them much but it does still exits, best to ask them for an "£11 day ticket" they might be able to work it out
I think it may be £12 now - fares went up by around 10% at the start of this year.
Linfs to timetables for all services being taken over from Johnsons are now on Diamond's website: -
https://www.diamondbuses.com/news/johnsons-welcome/
At a glance it looks like the only changes being made are the (prefectly reasonable) slight shortening or deletion of some journeys to/from Johnsons' Liveridge Hill depot on the X20 and X50.
Is there any Johnson drivers actually at Diamond then?
Got the impression from earlier posts, a fair few had left?
Quote from: Westy on May 21, 2022, 09:49:33 AMIs there any Johnson drivers actually at Diamond then?
Got the impression from earlier posts, a fair few had left?
Rotala don't take over Johnson's until 29th May
The route trainer for Diamond is out route training today on 87/88/X20.
QuoteThe route trainer for Diamond is out route training today on 87/88/X20.
What bus is the route trainer?
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on May 21, 2022, 07:00:54 PMWhat bus is the route trainer?
He's a human being on board a Johnson's bus.
I wonder if he has a fleet number ROFL
QuoteHe's a human being on board a Johnson's bus.
Ah just read your post properly apologies
For the record and those wanting to get the big ticket before Johnson's go, the price is £12.10 for the network daysaver. It's on the ticket as something like Warwickshire day saver.
Quote from: IMarkeh on May 23, 2022, 09:36:00 AMFor the record and those wanting to get the big ticket before Johnson's go, the price is £12.10 for the network daysaver. It's on the ticket as something like Warwickshire day saver.
Thanks for that, for some reason Johnsons have already removed the fares page from their website.
Quote from: Stu on May 23, 2022, 06:48:45 PMThanks for that, for some reason Johnsons have already removed the fares page from their website.
They're slowly winding the operation down from my observation. The fleet is gradually being de-vinyled, and at least one Scania looks like it's been prepared for repaint.
Perhaps the fares page also contained season tickets and they're obviously going to be worthless next week.
The fares page disappeared from the website several months ago - around the time of January's fares increase - and reference to the day ticket has been absent for the best part of a year, if not longer.
I went to Stratford and back on the X20 today. One Optare Metrodecker was on the X20 (the 0955 ex-Stratford), while the other one along with a white Enviro 400 was on Stratford Park & Ride. The other E400 was parked up at Stratford Station at midday.
Johnsons have now removed their bus pages from their website, even though the transfer to Diamond is still a few days away..
As already mentioned on the Diamond Bus - Discussion board, today was Johnsons' last day of running buses.
Just one Johnsons service has been operated on Sundays in recent times - the X50 Birmingham - Chipping Norton - and the vehicle on the last journey into Birmingham was Enviro 200MMC YW68 OVX. Unless there was an unexpected changeover on the return to Stratford, this would have been the last bus in service.
I believe that the buses transferring to Diamond were moving to Redditch today.
A couple of what looked like enthusiasts seemed to be waiting for the X50 towards Stratford outside the McDonald's in Monkspath at around 14.20
I wonder if it turned up.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-61734153
Saw a Johnsons E200 MMC at the back of the Peter clarke estate agent on the Myton Road in Leamington this morning. Displaying Johnsons Coaches/Staff Shuttle. Not sure what the reg of it was. There is a bus stop at the back there as well.
Quote from: 2206 on September 24, 2022, 02:04:34 PMSaw a Johnsons E200 MMC at the back of the Peter clarke estate agent on the Myton Road in Leamington this morning. Displaying Johnsons Coaches/Staff Shuttle. Not sure what the reg of it was. There is a bus stop at the back there as well.
That's the one that's doing the shuttle before it was sold to diamond & bus is on lease
Johnsons have acquired two PSVAR Ayats Eclipse bodied Scania K450EB6's from JH Coaches. JH67 COM and JH18 COM have both been repainted into Johnsons colours. I passed one yesterday on the M40.
Interesting. Have they operated double deck coaches before ??
Some Johnsons vehicles are now in whittles colours 1 is a 33-seater midi coach think it is numbered 3.
been searching for the Johnsons page for some reason i could only find Johnson page it the ceased
operators page
QuoteSome Johnsons vehicles are now in whittles colours 1 is a 33-seater midi coach think it is numbered 3.
been searching for the Johnsons page for some reason i could only find Johnson page it the ceased
operators page
As they no longer operate Stage Carriage I have moved them to the 'Other Warwickshire' page Warwickshire vehicles (wmbusphotos.com) (http://wmbusphotos.com/NONWM/WK/otherwarks.html)
Quote from: Tony on December 29, 2022, 05:00:38 PMAs they no longer operate Stage Carriage I have moved them to the 'Other Warwickshire' page Warwickshire vehicles (wmbusphotos.com) (http://wmbusphotos.com/NONWM/WK/otherwarks.html)
thanks tony are whittles vehicles in the Worcestershire vehicles section
Quote from: Cedric on December 29, 2022, 04:57:01 PMSome Johnsons vehicles are now in whittles colours 1 is a 29-seater midi coach think it is numbered 3.
been searching for the Johnsons page for some reason i could only find Johnson page it the ceased
operators page
reg of vehicle noted above PO 15 LFL is in whittles colours a 29 seater midi coach no 3
Quotethanks tony are whittles vehicles in the Worcestershire vehicles section
They will be when I get round to updating them
Quote from: Tony on December 29, 2022, 05:35:52 PMThey will be when I get round to updating them
another ex johnsons now whittles is yx 16 nya volo b11r now whittles no 6
Quote from: Cedric on December 29, 2022, 08:26:39 PManother ex johnsons now whittles is yx 16 nya volo b11r now whittles no 6
YX 16 NYC is now at whittles also
I saw a 72-plate Johnsons coach this morning at around 08:45, going onto the m40 south at junction 8a (Wheatley, Oxfordshire), carrying what looked like school kids. I don't see any 72-plates listed on the website so cannot confirm which one it was.
Quote from: ellspurs on January 24, 2023, 06:12:38 PMI saw a 72-plate Johnsons coach this morning at around 08:45, going onto the m40 south at junction 8a (Wheatley, Oxfordshire), carrying what looked like school kids. I don't see any 72-plates listed on the website so cannot confirm which one it was.
Choice of two ! YT72GOA & GOC. I assume "GOB" has not been issued ,unless it appears as a "select" registration. :laugh:
Quote from: B61 ANDREW on January 25, 2023, 02:31:52 PMChoice of two ! YT72GOA & GOC. I assume "GOB" has not been issued ,unless it appears as a "select" registration. :laugh:
From those choices I believe it was GOA. I was more surprised to see them all the way down there. I usually spend the day trying to avoid Heyfordian Coaches doing the school runs.
Quote from: Cedric on January 11, 2023, 12:06:19 PMYX 16 NYC is now at whittles also
this fleet number 5
Offical Whittles facebook page says they have a new coach due 0n 1st of march.
no details of make . there are some lovely interior shots on the page on one you
can see the word izar 16
Quote from: Cedric on February 24, 2023, 12:27:55 AMOffical Whittles facebook page says they have a new coach due 0n 1st of march.
no details of make . there are some lovely interior shots on the page on one you
can see the word izar 16
So it's an Irizar i6 then
Quote from: Tony on February 24, 2023, 08:07:13 AMSo it's an Irizar i6 then
did not realised that a make thought it was just a body type change of make for them
futher back in there facebook there are pictures of 5 coaches on what looks like clee hills
saying the now have a range of coaches from 8 seaters to 57 seaaters
Quote from: Cedric on January 11, 2023, 12:06:19 PMYX 16 NYC is now at whittles also
And YX16NYB also ?? It has had the Johnsons branding removed for sometime. I have checked and it still has Johnsons legal lettering.
Anyone with an up to date fleetlist please?
So many new Irizars, and I can only assume some of the older Bovas have been p/ex.
Quote from: BN on May 07, 2023, 06:13:21 AMAnyone with an up to date fleetlist please?
So many new Irizars, and I can only assume some of the older Bovas ihave been p/ex.
One on UK buses from April
Quote from: Solo1 on May 07, 2023, 06:25:18 AMOne on UK buses from April
Wanted to look at an upto date one really. Thanks though.
Johnsons Coaches website did have a 'vehicles for sale' page.
Noted Plaxton Panther YX16 NYB passing through Rushall on Friday afternoon - in full Johnsons livery, but devoid of all fleet names. Only saw the offside, so no clue what legal address it carries.
Anyone have any idea if this has passed to another company?
Quote from: CL on July 29, 2023, 10:50:32 PMNoted Plaxton Panther YX16 NYB passing through Rushall on Friday afternoon - in full Johnsons livery, but devoid of all fleet names. Only saw the offside, so no clue what legal address it carries.
Anyone have any idea if this has passed to another company?
I believe this is with Whittles in Kidderminster
Quote from: hlliwmai on July 30, 2023, 12:05:28 AMI believe this is with Whittles in Kidderminster
Yes, pretty sure all 4 Volvos transferred to Whittles, A and C have been painted, B still in Johnsons livery, D not sure.