Greetings
May not be in many of this forum users interest area but ive been to Sheffield a couple of times this year.
You may know that Sheffields First depot is it at Olive Grove and theur fleet consists of Volvo B7TLs, B9TLs, B7RLEs, B7Ls,, B10BLE's and E200s and Dennis Tridents
Service levels are very good, any of their local enthusiasts could tell you something unique about the majority of the fleet but for me it seemed to be a well maintained fleet, they have some issues with vandalism, graffiti, seat burns and window etching but not as bad as the West Midlands overall.
The main appeal to my visits there is the large allocation of Wright Renown bodied Volvo B10BLE's, some might say their sheds but i think they are good buses, many sadly of which are about to be replaced by Wright Streetlites or lamposts as some prefer to call them. 60618 - 60627 were the last buses bought by Mainline before it was purchased by Firstgroup, one of these is hoped to pass into preservation 60627. Buses with R or S registrations are to be withdrawn when the new buses enter service which will be from tuesday onwards when the first eleven hit the road.
Thought it may be of interest to some, hoping to return at some point
Ashley
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on August 25, 2013, 11:45:04 AM
Greetings
May not be in many of this forum users interest area but ive been to Sheffield a couple of times this year.
You may know that Sheffields First depot is it at Olive Grove and theur fleet consists of Volvo B7TLs, B9TLs, B7RLEs, B7Ls,, B10BLE's and E200s and Dennis Tridents
Service levels are very good, any of their local enthusiasts could tell you something unique about the majority of the fleet but for me it seemed to be a well maintained fleet, they have some issues with vandalism, graffiti, seat burns and window etching but not as bad as the West Midlands overall.
The main appeal to my visits there is the large allocation of Wright Renown bodied Volvo B10BLE's, some might say their sheds but i think they are good buses, many sadly of which are about to be replaced by Wright Streetlites or lamposts as some prefer to call them. 60618 - 60627 were the last buses bought by Mainline before it was purchased by Firstgroup, one of these is hoped to pass into preservation 60627. Buses with R or S registrations are to be withdrawn when the new buses enter service which will be from tuesday onwards when the first eleven hit the road.
Thought it may be of interest to some, hoping to return at some point
Ashley
Ashley,
I don't think many of First's passengers would have agreed with this statement 'Service levels are very good' until recently. Passenger numbers had been failing dramatically, due to passengers defecting to competing Stagecoach Yorkshire services in Sheffield due to the high fares First were charging and continual fare hikes. Since First have cut the cost of their cash fares & day/week/month tickets I understand that the trend is now reversing back in First's favour.
Up until the Streetlites Max were confirmed with 41 being destined for Olive Grove, Sheffield. First South Yorkshire & Sheffield has seen very little in new vehicle investment since 2008 with 08/58 plate B9TL/Gemini being delivered and few new buses of any quantity prior to those. The Streetlites will comprise of 37 new & the 4 x 62 First Group demonstrators which i understand are all slightly different specs
I also understand that the ex London Tridents are struggling in Sheffield with reliability problems and major unit failures, with a number frequently off the road awaiting repair.
If your interested in FSY you may/may not be aware of the South Yorkshire forum?
http://www.travelsy.proboards.com/
Well, with Tony's recent visit to Sheffield, I thought I'd post in some going on with the fleet at the minute - and there's a lot more to come in the near future! A lot is due to the network review in Sheffield which has seen a major shake up of services, with some long standing service numbers disappearing altogether.
First of all, Doncaster's Volvo B7L 60210 was lost to a major engine fire today in Hatfield Woodhouse.
Bad news for Doncaster who were already very short of buses before losing both this and 60208 this week!
Even more bad news for First South Yorkshire as a whole, who have now lost at least 3 buses to fires in the past fortnight...
Sheffield's 37031 was lost to an engine fire whilst on a road test with an engineer, right before it was due to move to Rotherham, with Sheffield's 60655 suffering an arson attack in the Manor Park area.
Some of Sheffield's Trident Presidents are now beginning to make their way to Doncaster for permanent transfer, with their Volvo counterparts heading to Rotherham along with the B7TL Geminis (Tony has nabbed at least 1 Gemini already). Rotherham will be sending their B9TLs in return, though I'm not sure if all 15 due will turn up until Rotherham gets it's new Streetdecks.
Here's a breakdown of what is to be expected (some of which have already taken place):
ALX400 B7TL:
30571-74/76 Sheffield to Bradford
30846/30862 Sheffield to Disposal
31776-80 Sheffield to Bradford
President B7TL:
32108-11 Sheffield to Rotherham
32215-20 Sheffield to Rotherham
32308-12 Sheffield to Rotherham
President Trident:
32955/957 Sheffield to Doncaster
33031/32/41/52/61-65/69-71/79/82-84/99/124/125/127-129/230 Sheffield to Doncaster
Gemini B7TL:
37021-30/32-35 Sheffield to Rotherham
Gemini B9TL:
37489-99/509/510 Rotherham to Sheffield
37500-8/525 Doncaster to Bradford
Renown B10BLE:
62232/34/35/39/40/43/44 Sheffield to Doncaster
60650-702 Sheffield to Disposal (the remaining fleet)
Streetlite 11.5m (Prototypes):
63038-41 Rotherham to Sheffield
Urban B7RLE:
69020/22-26/28-33/43-56 Rotherham to Sheffield
Streetlite 10.8m:
47482-90 Doncaster to Sheffield
Streetdeck:
35117-38 new to Rotherham (expected late next month)
Doncaster's B6/Darts are expected to go for disposal, with some ALX400s transferring to Rotherham, leaving Rotherham's B10BLEs following Sheffield's ones, so if you want some steep hill laden thrash on any B10BLEs, I'd head for South Yorkshire pretty sharpish!
Also of note, the 8x Y reg B10BLEs that will remain in South Yorkshire (Doncaster) will be receiving DDA compliance modifications and all the B9TLs are going through exhaust modifications to make them Euro V compliant - some of which have already been done.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on October 22, 2015, 07:22:11 AM
I got shot down the last time I mentioned this operator in any detail.
Certainly don't want to shoot anybody down......thank God there are members out there who take an interest in other operators and post something other than the absolute minutiae of NX.
I realise that the forum is West Midlands based,but I sometimes wonder if the whole forum could not be split into two,with one half (probably the largest) being for the purely NX enthusiasts,seemingly aged between 10-17 who really have no interest in buses other than number and trivia spotting,and members who are interested in transport operators ,history and organisation of routes and services.
No doubt my reward for this post will be "if you don't like it,then clear off and don't read it" but of course this only suffocates discussion and possible progress.
@arrifirststage We're already aware how you feel about the forum content, I don't understand why you feel the need to keep posting the same thing time and time again. As you say, it is a WM Bus based forum, NX are the main operator in the area, so...... Winston
Quote from: arrifirststage on October 22, 2015, 10:06:56 AM
Certainly don't want to shoot anybody down......thank God there are members out there who take an interest in other operators and post something other than the absolute minutiae of NX.
I realise that the forum is West Midlands based,but I sometimes wonder if the whole forum could not be split into two,with one half (probably the largest) being for the purely NX enthusiasts,seemingly aged between 10-17 who really have no interest in buses other than number and trivia spotting,and members who are interested in transport operators ,history and organisation of routes and services.
No doubt my reward for this post will be "if you don't like it,then clear off and don't read it" but of course this only suffocates discussion and possible progress.]
Definitely not! Any informative posts on anything welcome. The history of the site is I originally set up a fotopic site for photographs to match stuff being posted on the West Midlands Buses yahoo group, the name being just West Midlands Buses Photographs. Fotopic originally had a facility for comments under each photograph as well. When fotopic closed I transferred as many onto a website I had set up as possible. This is when the 'in' sneaked into the name. I soon got asked for the comment facility, had no idea how to set one up, so started the forum instead. As you can tell by the photos on the Website I have an interest in all buses & trains so have no problem with informative posts about anywhere in the country. The name of the website/forum just stems from the history of starting it
Regarding
@Ally 's original post.
37031 is expected to be repaired
I believe that there is a mini farewell planned for the T reg B10BLE's at Olive Grove planned for Saturday 31st October, which is also the last day before the new network begins. It also marks the end of the Mainline era as such as the BLE's being withdrawn were the last buses delivered to them prior to takeover by First. I must stress this is still TBC.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on October 22, 2015, 11:21:15 AM
Regarding @Ally 's original post.
37031 is expected to be repaired
I believe that there is a mini farewell planned for the T reg B10BLE's at Olive Grove planned for Saturday 31st October, which is also the last day before the new network begins. It also marks the end of the Mainline era as such as the BLE's being withdrawn were the last buses delivered to them prior to takeover by First. I must stress this is still TBC.
Good news about 37031
@Ashley 60171 , I wasn't sure of the extent of the damage so didn't like to comment.
Fingers crossed that the B10BLE farewell does get confirmed, that'd be nice. I wouldn't mind one last trip on the 95 with one, to the Bermuda Triangle of buses - or is that Walkley, Tinker Lane?
Also, apologies
@Winston , I did look through the whole section to see if there was already a FSY topic but didn't find one :o - obviously I was a lot more tired than I thought I was at 1.20am *cowers away in the corner*. Thanks for correcting it! :-[
Quote from: Ally on October 22, 2015, 03:44:58 PM
Good news about 37031 @Ashley 60171 , I wasn't sure of the extent of the damage so didn't like to comment.
Fingers crossed that the B10BLE farewell does get confirmed, that'd be nice. I wouldn't mind one last trip on the 95 with one, to the Bermuda Triangle of buses - or is that Walkley, Tinker Lane?
Also, apologies @Winston , I did look through the whole section to see if there was already a FSY topic but didn't find one :o - obviously I was a lot more tired than I thought I was at 1.20am *cowers away in the corner*. Thanks for correcting it! :-[
I have apologised to Winston but will also apologise here for my grumble.
I believe the idea would be to have B10BLE's operate on the routes they've always been associated with so the 95 would be included.
An unidentified single deck vehicle which didn't make it to its destination
http://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/news/look-doncaster-passengers-escape-bus-inferno-after-vehicle-explosion-1-7530245
I'm guessing it won't get repaired :-)
Quote from: Bryan on October 23, 2015, 07:24:39 AM
An unidentified single deck vehicle which didn't make it to its destination
http://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/news/look-doncaster-passengers-escape-bus-inferno-after-vehicle-explosion-1-7530245
I'm guessing it won't get repaired :-)
61210 which is a write off. Rotherham's 60728 has gone to cover.
On an unrelated note to that...B10BLE 60684 T866ODT was withdrawn this morning.
Quote from: Tony on October 22, 2015, 10:20:48 AM
Definitely not! Any informative posts on anything welcome. The history of the site is I originally set up a fotopic site for photographs to match stuff being posted on the West Midlands Buses yahoo group, the name being just West Midlands Buses Photographs. Fotopic originally had a facility for comments under each photograph as well. When fotopic closed I transferred as many onto a website I had set up as possible. This is when the 'in' sneaked into the name. I soon got asked for the comment facility, had no idea how to set one up, so started the forum instead. As you can tell by the photos on the Website I have an interest in all buses & trains so have no problem with informative posts about anywhere in the country. The name of the website/forum just stems from the history of starting it
Thank you Tony for allowing a much wider interest to be discussed instead of the very restricted and parochial views so far shown.
Like I say,I have no objection to the younger enthusiasts discussing what they deem interesting,but now,thank God,us who have wider interests can now talk about them without being told to clear off if we do not agree with a format dictated by youngsters whose views,understandably perhaps,are narrower than ours.
Again,thanks Tony.
Quote from: arrifirststage on October 23, 2015, 10:00:09 AM
Thank you Tony for allowing a much wider interest to be discussed instead of the very restricted and parochial views so far shown.
Like I say,I have no objection to the younger enthusiasts discussing what they deem interesting,but now,thank God,us who have wider interests can now talk about them without being told to clear off if we do not agree with a format dictated by youngsters whose views,understandably perhaps,are narrower than ours.
Again,thanks Tony.
@arrifirststage No one has stopped you posting about any wider UK subject, it is the repetitive public 'complaining and moaning' posts about the forum content, what younger members post and being told to clear off. You singling out what the younger members post is likely to result in response and a another potential argument. Those types of comments are unhelpful, not required & of no interest to the rest of us! If you don't like the forum content, don't read it! Simple!!
If you post informative stuff, you will not hear from me, if you continue to post your opinions on forum content, they will now just be deleted, Winston
Quote from: Winston on October 23, 2015, 10:23:54 AM
@arrifirststage No one has stopped you posting about any wider UK subject, it is the repetitive public 'complaining and moaning' posts about the forum content, what younger members post and being told to clear off. You singling out what the younger members post is likely to result in response and a another potential argument. Those types of comments are unhelpful, not required & of no interest to the rest of us! If you don't like the forum content, don't read it! Simple!!
If you post informative stuff, you will not hear from me, if you continue to post your opinions on forum content, they will now just be deleted, Winston
Unfortunately,Winston, we seem unable to agree on this,I still regard your views as rather dictatorial,whilst you doubtless regard me as a pain in the wotsit.
Hopefully we are mature enough not to descend to a personal level and I appreciate your honest reply,
I will of course respect your request not to post comments on forum content,though I do think some of it is rather juvenile,
Thank you again for being frank and honest,
Best wishes,Roy
Quote from: arrifirststage on October 23, 2015, 01:22:23 PM
Unfortunately,Winston, we seem unable to agree on this,I still regard your views as rather dictatorial,whilst you doubtless regard me as a pain in the wotsit.
Hopefully we are mature enough not to descend to a personal level and I appreciate your honest reply,
I will of course respect your request not to post comments on forum content,though I do think some of it is rather juvenile,
Thank you again for being frank and honest,
Best wishes,Roy
Roy,
Thanks for your reply.
You're entiltied to post your opinion's of any operators from anywhere / transport industry trends / enthusiasts treads (both negative & positive). Is all we ask, is for you not post any comments that single out specific age groups of members & comment on the quality of the content that they post, as this could potentially prevoke yet another argument on the forum. If the content is not up street then fair enough (this was where the don't read it comments came in), the content will not suit all, all of the time, you don't like me picking up for your posts, yet seem happy to comment on others. Keep passing comment will not change the make-up / content of the forum, it will only make other members turn against you. As admin are tired of the frequent arguments / bickering on the forum, we are simply nipping anything of that nature in the bud before anything starts....
Whilst I respect your opinion, the rules do state that admin have the final say and had you taken on board our requests/comments last time, we wouldn't be here again now,
Matter closed,
Regards,
Winston
Back onto topic of First South Yorkshire, has any of our Yorkshire members had a ride on the Evoseti and what are their opinions of the bus?
First Sheffield Volvo B10BLE Farewell Day
A farewell allocation for the remaining 20 B10BLEs will happen on Friday 30th October 2015.
I've not been told much by my friend - who is allocating for the event - however I'm informed that 60700/T882ODT will work Peak District run 272 all day to Castleton - this is the "best" BLE remaining and is expected to be a nice ride out. Be aware that this run is only covered by the £5.50 Peak Explorer ticket - details should be on the relevant website.
Another thing of note is that some of the "midnight" boards on former B10 operated routes will have a B10 allocated instead of a Streetlite. This rarely ever happens, believe it only still ever happens on 44s when there is a lack of available Streetlites. Not that I complain, can't beat a BLE on the local route all night ;)
I can't disclose much more but there will be NO B10BLEs allocated on Saturday 31st October 2015 - the last day for these will be Friday 30th September 2015. End of an era for Sheffield. Will be a shame to see my childhood buses say goodbye to service for the last ever time.
As it stands, the actives remain afaik remain as:
60635RO
60650OG
60656OG
60666RO
60672RO
60673RO
60675RO
60677RO
60678RO
60679RO
60680RO
60682RO
60683RO
60685OG
60687OG
60689OG
60690OG
60692OG
60693OG
60694OG
60696OG
60697OG
60698OG
60700OG
60701RO
60702OG
62232OG
62234OG
62235OG
62237OG
62239OG
62240OG
62243DN
62244OG
The 622**s are due DDA mods for DN mind you so it's not all lost, but these aren't natives ;)
Here's what I believe each depots fleets to be, there's probably still some transfers to Bradford sat inside Olive Grove depot and some withdrawn B10BLEs somewhere in Rotherham. Of note, the withdrawn buses are all based at Olive Grove, the B6BLEs are classed as reserve vehicles, the B10BLEs remaining at Olive Grove & Rotherham are on "stays of execution" so can depart the fleet at any point with any minor defect. There is absolutely no money or time being spent on them now - they're simply covering for vehicles, similar to 37500-508/525 at Olive Grove which may see public work at any time whilst the final few transfers are being awaited.
Doncaster:
B7TL: 30881-885/898-899/904-907, 31148, 31781-786, 32249/250/261-276
Trident: 33031-032/041/052/061-071/079/082-084/099, 33124-125, 33128-129, 33230
B9TL: 37228/232-237/257
E200: 44925-927
B10BLE: 62232/235/237/239-240/243-244
B7L: 60718/728, 60888/889, 61192-204/206-209/211 61208 long term VOR
B7RLE: 69461-465
Rotherham:
B7TL: 30561-565/567-570/575/577-578, 31142/144-145, 32108-111, 32215-220, 32308-312, 37021-030/032-034
B9TL: 37231/258-259/261-265, 37487-494/496-498/509-510
Streetdeck: 35117-138 due imminently - six expected to arrive by Sunday 08/11/15
B7L: 60704-706/720-722/724/726-727/729-731/733-735/737-744
B7RLE: 69043/047 69047 long term VOR
B10BLE: 60635/666/672-673/675/677-680/682, 60683/701
Streetlite: 63038-041
Olive Grove:
B7TL: 30937/938, 31129-15/137-141, 37031/035 37031 long term VOR
B9TL: 37229, 37472-486/495/499-508/511-529
E400: 33858-872
B7L: 60703, 60707-717/719/725/736-737/745, 60885-887/890-894, 61631/633/636/638-639, 61662
B7RLE: 69020/022-026/028-033/044-046/048-056
Streetlite: 47482-490, 63001-037, 63119-128, 63129-145
B10BLE: 60689/696-697/700/702, 62234
Withdrawn
B6BLE: 40595-599
Dart: 40973-976
B10BLE: 60650/655-656/662, 60684-685/687-688/690/692-695/698-699
Olympian: 34090
First Streetdecks have been used on the X78 today. 35117 out full day and then 35118 took up service at 16:00 after "going tech" in the depot this morning.
Fleet as of today:
Doncaster:
B7TL: 30881-885/898-899/904-907, 31148, 31781-786, 32249/250/261-276
Trident: 32955/957, 33031-032/041/052/061-071/079/082-084/099, 33124-125, 33127-129, 33230
B9TL: 37228/232-237/257
E200: 44925-927
Dart: 40974/976
B10BLE: 62232/234-235/237/239-240/243-244
B7L: 60718/728, 60888/889, 61192-204/206-207/209/211
B7RLE: 69461-465
Rotherham:
B7TL: 30561-565/567-570/575/577-578, 31142/144-145, 32108-111, 32215-220, 32308-312, 37021-030/032-035
B9TL: 37231/258-259/261-265, 37488-489/494/496
Streetdeck: 35117-35123/125-127
B7L: 60704-706/720-722/724/726-727/729-731/733-735/737-744
B10BLE: 60635/666/672-673/675/677-680/682, 60701
Streetlite: 63038-041
Olive Grove:
B7TL: 30846/862/937-938, 31129-15/137-141, 31777-778/780
B9TL: 37229, 37472-487/490-493/495/497-499/509-524/526-529
E400: 33858-872
B7L: 60703, 60707-717/719/725/736-737/745, 60885-887/890-894, 61631/633/636/638-639, 61662
B7RLE: 69020/022-026/028-033/043-056
Streetlite: 47482-490, 63001-037, 63119-128, 63129-145
Reserve
B7TL: 31776/779, 37031
B7L: 61208
B10BLE: 60626
Withdrawn
B6BLE: 40595-599
Dart: 40973/975
B7TL: 30861
B10BLE: 60650/655-656/662, 60683-685/687-690/692-700/702
Olympian: 34090
B7L: 61210
Quick update as the fleet starts to settle down...
All Tridents are now in Doncaster, 1 is at Rotherham for RTC repairs with another 9 VOR, they're getting better but still not as good as we managed to get to them in Sheffield. There's talk about them coming back for B7Ls currently.
Streetdecks are settling in on the X78 nicely...yet the DBP looks to be throwing that up in the air.
The 14 B7TL Geminis at Rotherham and then the one broken one at Sheffield aren't sure whether to be staying or going but have got a home on the 22/22M competing with Stagecoach.
The five Courtesy Fleet B10BLEs (60618/21/22/6/66112) minus 62143 which has been written off are retuning to SY for DDA mods and then service, 60626 is currently being modded as we speak.
60689/96/7/700/2 are the last remaining B10BLEs and are still in service until the rest of the movements are carried out.
Remaining movements are:
40974/6 DO - withdrawn
30881-85/98-99/904-907 DO - withdrawn I'm not sure whether this is now happening this year or next year...
35128-35138 new - RO
37488-489/494/496 RO-OG
30571-77/76, 31778/780 OG - First West Yorkshire
60689/96-97/700/02 OG - withdrawn
Just going to leave this here, 35118 SM65EFE working the X78 on its first day of service: https://flic.kr/p/Buje35
60622 / 785 / R785WKW made its way back home from Norwich last night.
Quote from: Chris on October 23, 2015, 02:52:56 PM
Back onto topic of First South Yorkshire, has any of our Yorkshire members had a ride on the Evoseti and what are their opinions of the bus?
Finally got on this today (thought it would have gone elsewhere by now but obviously not) and I've got to admit I'm not too impressed. Interior looks very plasticky and very tacky and you can see where someones had the filler out on the engine bay at the back of the bus. Rear wheel arch seats look like they've been copied from the President but it rides rather smoothly and doesn't take too long to pick up speed even on Sheffield's god awful roads! Very quiet too, sounds similar to the euro 5 B7RLEs tbh, but the gearbox has a nice bit of scream in it :-)
All expected transfers now almost complete. OG's last remaining B10BLEs 60689 60696 60697 60700 60702 will see service right up until the end of service on New Years Eve.
37031 moving to Rotherham shortly for fire damage repairs
30862 now in reserve. again.
Streetdeck update, 35124 is being repaired using 35125 after a crash, 35125 is long term VOR after a major smash. Two weeks in and they've already started smashing them up ;)
B10BLE update:
60618 has returned to Rotherham for DDA mods
60689 has been withdrawn from Olive Grove due to water ingress
60696 has been out on 41 circuits today
60697 has been out on 8s today until approx. 14:30 when changed over. May possibly not see service again.
60700 has been out on 8s today until returning to depot at approx 00:30
60702 has been withdrawn from Olive Grove due to a water pump failure.
60696 60700 and possibly 60697 will see service up until end of service on Thursday.
BG14OPC (69588) is on hire to First South Yorkshire,saw it on the 8/14 in Rotherham today.
Not familiar with the area but I think the following are unusual/noteworthy:
35131 was on the 39/66 in Rotherham today
32220 was on the 22 in Rotherham today
35136 was on the 27 in Rotherham today
35117 was on the 2 in Rotherham today
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on February 15, 2016, 07:00:19 PM
BG14OPC (69588) is on hire to First South Yorkshire,saw it on the 8/14 in Rotherham today.
Not familiar with the area but I think the following are unusual/noteworthy:
35131 was on the 39/66 in Rotherham today
32220 was on the 22 in Rotherham today
35136 was on the 27 in Rotherham today
35117 was on the 2 in Rotherham today
69588 is another ex-Maltese B7RLE on hire whilst 35137s delivery is still outstanding, this was damaged on delivery and so returned to Ireland for repairs. Would have been on 7/8/14, possibly one of the least amounts of interworking in the place ;)
32220 on 22s is normal, any route gets any decker now.
At a guess 35136 would have been on the usual ex-exam board on 10/27 which at least used to run onto an X78 in the evening although I don't think it does anymore.
The 39 and 66 don't interwork so at a guess I assume it must have been changed off at some point.
Whilst I'm here, B10BLE 60626 (789) has been at Olive Grove depot for the past couple of weeks and has made itself at home on the 8/8a (Ecclesfield - City - Birley - Crystal Peaks)
Is 36301 still with South Yorkshire? Spent 90 mins in Rotherham and didn't see it.
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on February 15, 2016, 08:31:40 PM
Is 36301 still with South Yorkshire? Spent 90 mins in Rotherham and didn't see it.
Was taken off fleet on Thursday. Not sure where it's going next.
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on February 15, 2016, 08:42:13 PM
Ok thanks @T840MAK :)
Not a problem. Did you manage to catch the two pre-production Streetdecks (35101/35102)?
Yes 35101. Are they on the move as well?
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on February 15, 2016, 08:47:24 PM
Yes 35101. Are they on the move as well?
They're not supposed to be but theres a lot of movements that aren't supposed to be happening at Donny over the next few weeks.
The final Streetdeck, 35137 arrived at Rotherham this morning
Ok I will just keep watching your updates on here and the fleet lists.
60621 / R784WKW back in service at Sheffield Olive Grove, sister 60626 seems to have made itself at home on one of the late night boards on the 8/8a
Whilst I'm here, it's reported that the current B10BLE situation is..:
60618 - MT @ Rotherham
60621 - reserve @ Rotherham
60622 - RTC cover @ Doncaster
60626 - paint cover @ Sheffield
66112 - on loan @ Bolton
66168 - on loan @ Bradford
Doncaster is expected to recieve 14 Streetlites this year with other "new" buses as part of First's commitment to the new Doncaster bus partnership - also means good riddance to the Tridents (twentieth time lucky it seems...)
Unsure of what other movements are happening elsewhere but it wouldn't surprise me if Olive Grove had a new batch of buses this year - possibly deckers to alleviate the ongoing capacity issues - noticeably this has also been named the best First depot in the north of England - although with how my route has been run today (three trips out of the entire day from beginning of morning peak to current running to time, with the rest either >1 minute early or 5< minute late) I really do struggle to see how.
Also worth pointing out that the fare structure has changed with fares in multiples of 50p, with day, month & child tickets remaining at current prices - although the weekly ticket has increased to £13.
Still struggling to justify the price increase on my route with the quality of service but such is life.
The other 'new' buses due at Doncaster might be 'new' to FSY but they are certainly not brand new, they are Ex Glasgow E300's
Quote from: Winston on March 30, 2016, 09:36:28 PM
The other 'new' buses due at Doncaster might be 'new' to FSY but they are certainly not brand new, they are Ex Glasgow E300's
That's what I've heard but didn't want to post in case it was a rumour.
Believe what is being replaced at Doncaster is the B10BLEs, Tridents & Euro2 non-DDA B7TLs - although that's slightly more than the numbers which have been quoted as arriving, unless there's a major PVR drop.
Also worth mentioning whilst on the discussion of Doncaster that B7TL 31783 YN53 EOH has had a minor thermal incident. Believe the donor bus for repairs on this is the first B7TL ALX new to Yorkshire Rider - 30846 W701 CWR. The other thermal incidents (61208 JDZ 2130 and 37031 YJ06 XKW) are still under repair.
Quote from: T840MAK on March 31, 2016, 11:12:13 PM
That's what I've heard but didn't want to post in case it was a rumour.
Believe what is being replaced at Doncaster is the B10BLEs, Tridents & Euro2 non-DDA B7TLs - although that's slightly more than the numbers which have been quoted as arriving, unless there's a major PVR drop.
Also worth mentioning whilst on the discussion of Doncaster that B7TL 31783 YN53 EOH has had a minor thermal incident. Believe the donor bus for repairs on this is the first B7TL ALX new to Yorkshire Rider - 30846 W701 CWR. The other thermal incidents (61208 JDZ 2130 and 37031 YJ06 XKW) are still under repair.
As well as a potential total Pvr drop there will also be a significant capacity drop with single deckers replacing doubles
Quote from: Winston on March 31, 2016, 11:25:24 PM
As well as a potential total Pvr drop there will also be a significant capacity drop with single deckers replacing doubles
A few years ago there was an aim to increase the amount of single deckers in Doncaster due to complaints (crazy huh?), thats kinda already been done when York swapped five of Doncaster's B7TLs for B7Ls, however when there were a large amount of cascades earlier in the year, midibuses were replaced with Sheffield's ex-London Tridents, so it would realistically only be a capacity drop to what is required or what it was before the Sheffield changes.
Quote from: T840MAK on March 31, 2016, 11:35:10 PM
A few years ago there was an aim to increase the amount of single deckers in Doncaster due to complaints (crazy huh?), thats kinda already been done when York swapped five of Doncaster's B7TLs for B7Ls, however when there were a large amount of cascades earlier in the year, midibuses were replaced with Sheffield's ex-London Tridents, so it would realistically only be a capacity drop to what is required or what it was before the Sheffield changes.
Plus those ex Sheffield / ex London Tridents aren't exactly the most reliable. Sheffield have been offloading a number of those to Kernow recently as well.
Are First still the underdog in Sheffield against Stagecoach?
Quote from: Winston on March 31, 2016, 11:40:38 PM
Plus those ex Sheffield / ex London Tridents aren't exactly the most reliable. Sheffield have been offloading a number of those to Kernow recently as well.
Are First still the underdog in Sheffield against Stagecoach?
Actually it was Doncaster who offloaded them to Kernow (the last three they tried to sent down broke down and so further transfers were cancelled) - we offloaded them to Doncaster.
It's more of an equal playing field between the two now in Sheffield although it seems that every time the PTE reviews the Sheffield routes, First lose work and Stagecoach gain it so I'd assume even the PTE are saying First are the underdogs - although my own personal view is biased after a second day without a single bus running to time on my route..!
Quote from: T840MAK on March 31, 2016, 11:57:56 PM
Actually it was Doncaster who offloaded them to Kernow (the last three they tried to sent down broke down and so further transfers were cancelled) - we offloaded them to Doncaster.
It's more of an equal playing field between the two now in Sheffield although it seems that every time the PTE reviews the Sheffield routes, First lose work and Stagecoach gain it so I'd assume even the PTE are saying First are the underdogs - although my own personal view is biased after a second day without a single bus running to time on my route..!
Fair enough, I'm a bit out of touch with FSY allocations but do recall the ex London Tridents being particularly troublesome at Oliver Grove. They must be bad if Kernow have refused to take more
Quote from: Winston on April 01, 2016, 12:02:44 AM
Fair enough, I'm a bit out of touch with FSY allocations but do recall the ex London Tridents being particularly troublesome at Oliver Grove. They must be bad if Kernow have refused to take more
I don't think all of them were ever in a serviceable state at one time - it was common for three or four to be VOR at once wanting new engines or engine work done to them, this has continued at Doncaster.
33079/33083/33083 were all making a move to Kernow when 33079 expired on the way down and 33082 developed a fault - noticeably 33079 still hasn't re entered service at Doncaster since.
At one point the Euro2 B7TLs which the Tridents replaced had to be reinstated to cover for the poor reliability - they're still in service now.
Withdrawn B10BLEs are now starting to make their final trips to Barnsley from Olive Grove with just one left at Rotherham to make the move (60701 / 883)
Removed for scrap so far from Olive Grove are 60696 / 878, 60697 / 879, 60698 / 880, 60699 / 881, 60702 / 884 along with Doncaster B6s 40595 and 40597.
Quote from: T840MAK on April 08, 2016, 10:30:42 PM
Withdrawn B10BLEs are now starting to make their final trips to Barnsley from Olive Grove with just one left at Rotherham to make the move (60701 / 883)
Removed for scrap so far from Olive Grove are 60696 / 878, 60697 / 879, 60698 / 880, 60699 / 881, 60702 / 884 along with Doncaster B6s 40595 and 40597.
Some have been raided for spares for preserved 1415 & 1401
Quote from: Tony on April 08, 2016, 11:19:57 PM
Some have been raided for spares for preserved 1415 & 1401
It's great to know that part of our B10s will still live on them, unfortunately no one seems interested in preserving another of ours just yet. I know that some were raided for 60627 / 790 to keep that preservation project going and also I believe some were raided for the ex Commercial fleet and for the five which just kept on going last year.
At Wrightbus awaiting delivery and now signed off are:
63369-63374 inclusive for Doncaster - to replace Tridents / B10BLEs and to improve fleet age for the Doncaster Bus Partnership.
63375-63388 inclusive for Rotherham. Not a clue what these are to replace, no numbers add up.
Also of note is that the new network for Doncaster has now been released along with major changes to some Rotherham routes.
Rotherham has Optare Metrodecker Demo YJ16 DFG on loan. This should be trialled on the X78 alongside the 24 Streetdecks.
Rotherham's first two Streetlites have also arrived - these are 63370 and 63372, however are both of yet unregistered.
In more Rotherham news, B10BLE 60618 is in use alongside sister 60621 covering for repaints.
Currently in paint are 32273DO, 31142RO and 31144RO
37021-37030/37032-37035 are expected to transfer back home to First West Yorkshire mid-May. 37031 should follow suit once it's fire damage repairs have been carried out.
At Sheffield, 37515 is the latest candidate for a rear end repaint, and B10BLEs 60655, 60690, 60699, 60702 are the latest vehicles to go to scrap. 60700 has been moved to Waverley business park for use as a bus for university engineers, or some other gubbins along those lines.
No reportable news from Doncaster other than the return of long-term absentee Trident 33061 following it's RTC and B7L 61208 following its RTC/fire.
Doncaster's bus partnership changes are implemented mid next month along with the second round of Rotherham bus partnership changes, so this could all well be the quiet before the storm of fleet movements.
Latest goings on since the SY forum seems to no longer exist...
Olive Grove:
37521 has moved to reserve following a major incident whilst working peak district runs this weekend.
B10BLE 60650 is the latest bus to take its one way trip to Barnsley - leaving Olympian 34090, B7TL 30861 and four other B10s (60656/60685/60695 and another i believe)
A batch of Enviro400MMCs is expected here later this year.
Rotherham:
Optare Metrodecker 35000 YJ16 DFG has been noted in service on service X78 - seems to be performing better than the B5TL and the E400MMC currently.
B10BLE 60621 has returned to reserve
B7TL 31142/31144 are both repainted into Olympia colours.
Doncaster Streetlite 63381 has been noted as parked here recently - none of Rotherham's own are yet in service.
Doncaster:
B7TLs 30881 30882 30883 30898 30899 are due to be withdrawn with the impending arrival of Streetlites, whilst 30884 30885 30904 30905 30906 and 30907 are expected to move to West Yorkshire
Trident 33063 has been reinstated whilst 33070 has been withdrawn with an engine failure.
This only details movements which I am aware of - there may be more changes to vehicle allocations which have not yet been recorded, as Doncaster has an overall PVR drop yet there's more buses there according to this list. I know, work that out.
New Streetlites 63369-63382 (numbers tbc) reserve - Doncaster
New Streetlites 63383-63388 (numbers tbc) reserve - Rotherham
B7TL Geminis 37021-030/032-035 Rotherham - reserve
B7TL ALX400s 30881-30885/898-899/904-907 Doncaster - reserve
B7TL ALX400s 30561/563 Rotherham - First West Yorkshire
B7TL ALX400s 30562 Rotherham - reserve
B10BLE 60618 Rotherham - reserve
B10BLE 60622 Doncaster - reserve
37024 37025 60618 60621 reinstated at Rotherham.
There are now no non-DDA buses in the fleet with the withdrawal of Doncaster B7TLs 30881-885/898-899/904-907. These are being split between returning to West Yorkshire and heading to Taunton.
Couple of Tridents withdrawn at Doncaster, and more broken. No surprises there then.
The spread of Streetlites currently is
63369 63371 63380 63381 63387 63388 at Rotherham
63370 63372-63379 63382-63386 at Doncaster.
Rotherham's six finally entered service on Tuesday. Sadly, the one I had earlier already has some pretty bad rattles. Not too impressed with the quality of this batch with rattling on day three, but at least they sound like euro5 ones, so actually have some sound to them.
Also worth noting that whilst I'm slagging off their build quality, three of Rotherhams have already broken in the last few days.
That be all for today.
Quote from: T840MAK on June 02, 2016, 06:57:17 PM
37024 37025 60618 60621 reinstated at Rotherham.
There are now no non-DDA buses in the fleet with the withdrawal of Doncaster B7TLs 30881-885/898-899/904-907. These are being split between returning to West Yorkshire and heading to Taunton.
Couple of Tridents withdrawn at Doncaster, and more broken. No surprises there then.
The spread of Streetlites currently is
63369 63371 63380 63381 63387 63388 at Rotherham
63370 63372-63379 63382-63386 at Doncaster.
Rotherham's six finally entered service on Tuesday. Sadly, the one I had earlier already has some pretty bad rattles. Not too impressed with the quality of this batch with rattling on day three, but at least they sound like euro5 ones, so actually have some sound to them.
Also worth noting that whilst I'm slagging off their build quality, three of Rotherhams have already broken in the last few days.
That be all for today.
63382 in Sheffield interchange on the 72. Are you sure that is a Doncaster one?
Quote from: Cheese on June 03, 2016, 09:01:29 AM
63382 in Sheffield interchange on the 72. Are you sure that is a Doncaster one?
That would be a typo. Whoopsy...
Quote from: T840MAK on June 03, 2016, 08:12:28 PM
That would be a typo. Whoopsy...
Reading the latest SOES it appears some of these Streetlites have been used by other depots before going to their proper home, guessing then Rotherham were using it for a few days before going to Donny.
Quote from: Cheese on June 08, 2016, 07:30:00 AM
Reading the latest SOES it appears some of these Streetlites have been used by other depots before going to their proper home, guessing then Rotherham were using it for a few days before going to Donny.
SOES has used the expected transfers and put them into their fleetlist, so this month's isn't entirely correct. Rotherham's Streetlites only entered service last Tuesday for instance, and vehicles which are still in use at both Rotherham and Doncaster depots have been removed from the fleetlist.
If it is of interest to anyone, I have my own fleetlist on my OneDrive for First South Yorkshire, along with a Stagecoach Yorkshire one which is currently a work in progress, which I try to update as soon as movements happen. The link to the folder of fleetlists is located at https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21AJvuFiQFfCwsFFc&id=E8BD3D3B2FDF1C6A%21685&cid=E8BD3D3B2FDF1C6A
Couple of bits;
33867 has finally lost its Strongbow advert, and once again sports Sheffield skylines. Put them back on quicker than they did with the other two..!
Withdrawn 32955 has transferred to Great Yarmouth. Well, only because it got towed there.
The amount of Enviro400MMCs due has been reduced to 10 from 15, so I'm no longer sure that the ALX400s are going...oh, and the batch still isn't showing on the First order list.
Streetlite 63035 and B7TL 31145 are the latest full repaints.
Does anyone know if the Optare Metrodecker 35000 is still on the X78? If so,when does the trial end?
Saw it recently on working shown on SOES website
http://www.sheffieldomnibus.uk/latest-news.html
I rode on one in London last week, glad I only went three stops!
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/z6GiCN
Thanks,
@JoNi . The seat in the photo looks like those in our local Streetlites.......bl**dy awful!
The ones in London are on routes 35 and 40 that are 50/50 with 16 plate E400 MMCs. London General are buying a load more. There seems to be an obsession with weight which leads to seats like these being used.
Quote from: Tiptonian on July 04, 2016, 06:57:22 PM
Does anyone know if the Optare Metrodecker 35000 is still on the X78? If so,when does the trial end?
As
@JoNi says, still in service on X78s, unless things have changed since I saw it last on Friday. The seats aren't too bad on it tbh. Not sure when the trial is going to end yet though.
Many thanks to both of you
@JoNi and
@T840MAK . A trip is in order!
Not really much to report here, the Metrodecker demo is still in use , and the first of ten E200MMCs for Sheffield is 67141 YY16 YLN and has left the Scarborough factory this weekend. No idea what's being displaced here either.
The following were at the Sheffield Bus Running Day today:
32270 LT52WWR Volvo B7TL/Alexander ALX400
37230 YN08LCK Volvo B9TL/Wright Gemini (Doncaster Corporation livery)
37231 YN08LCL Volvo B9TL/Wright Gemini (Rotherham Corporation livery)
37524 YN58ETR Volvo B9TL/Wright Gemini (South Yorkshire Transport livery)
37528 YN58ETX Volvo B9TL/Wright Gemini (Sheffield 1913 livery)
67144 YY16YLR ADL Enviro 200 MMC
Except 37231 these were all static display
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on August 21, 2016, 06:34:44 PM
37528 YN58ETX Volvo B9TL/Wright Gemini (Sheffield 1913 livery)
This is 1930s livery. Was a good day out, although the amount of First, and vehicles of operators who predecessed First was far too high ;)
Quote from: T840MAK on August 21, 2016, 10:01:04 PM
This is 1930s livery. Was a good day out, although the amount of First, and vehicles of operators who predecessed First was far too high ;)
Yeh I quite enjoyed it but there was lots of first stuff there
Massive bank holiday number list:
32957 33031 33032 33041 33052 33065 33065 33080 33082 DO-reserve
47482 47483 47484 47485 47486 47487 47488 47489 47489 OG-DO
63371 RO-reserve
67141 67142 67143 67144 67145 67146 67147 67148 67149 67150 reserve-OG
63371 is awaiting repairs from a major RTC.
The OG loan bus covering for Streetdeck branding / retrimming (I know, already!) at Rotherham is currently one of the biggest heaps of **** ever, 61636. In the last week this has been 60709, 60712, 60736 and 61639.
£29.8m bus rapid transit scheme set for launch:
http://www.firstgroupplc.com/news-and-media/latest-news/2016/02-09-16.aspx
Quote from: Winston on September 02, 2016, 03:42:47 PM
£29.8m bus rapid transit scheme set for launch:
http://www.firstgroupplc.com/news-and-media/latest-news/2016/02-09-16.aspx
Hmmm...our BRT system which you have to get through one of the most congested areas of the city to get to and is simply just a road which is going to be closed only to cars...yeah, I won't tell you my thoughts of it, except that it's a waste of time and money.
Quote from: Winston on September 02, 2016, 03:42:47 PM
£29.8m bus rapid transit scheme set for launch:
http://www.firstgroupplc.com/news-and-media/latest-news/2016/02-09-16.aspx
The new BRT can be seen towards the end of this video I took onboard 35123 working the X1 on Monday, as you can see it's a very high tech road that clearly only buses can use ::) https://youtu.be/up0EI10YOzQ
Under current proposals the Rotherham depot and refurb centre will close in February 2017.
There will be no further changes to routes in Rotherham. The issue is stemming from the depot losing money - not to do with the town network. Sadly this has been coming on for some time, and indeed the X78 was moved to Rotherham with an injection of new buses in 2007 to try and combat the issues that the depot was having.
The current plans are to run all services out of Olive Grove depot, with the X78 being split between OG and Doncaster.
So far the plans are:
Seven buses to Doncaster.
Seventy three buses to Olive Grove.
This will bring Olive Grove's total fleet up to 305 - biggest bus depot in UK again?
Certainly among,if not,the largest in England. I believe that Caledonia-the replacement for Larkfield and Parkhead in Glasgow-has in excess of 350 buses allocated.
Quote from: markcf83 on October 13, 2016, 10:37:53 AM
Certainly among,if not,the largest in England. I believe that Caledonia-the replacement for Larkfield and Parkhead in Glasgow-has in excess of 350 buses allocated.
The capacity of Caledonia was said to be 450 buses.
Closure date for Rotherham 18/02/2017.
Just a Trident update - three of the four at Olive Grove are still parked up after blowing themselves up :D
Streetdeck branding is now also complete, although I'm not too sure which ones have had the treatment just yet.
31129 has been painted back into Olympia at Olive Grove.
Heritage liveried 37528 is at Rotherham for repaint.
Quote from: T840MAK on October 25, 2016, 08:57:17 PM
Closure date for Rotherham 18/02/2017.
Heritage liveried 37528 is at Rotherham for repaint.
Just as well I've got a picture of the Volvo then.....
Recent movements;
Solos into Doncaster, no ideas of numbers, along with Weymouth B7RLEs.
33061-33064 now reside in South Wales
31137-31140 now reside in West Yorkshire
32263/4/5/7 now reside in Sheffield
Oh, and my buses are barely running, but I'm not going to complain about that all over here as I'm aware that about three buses have run so far today and I've already found alternative routes to get to where I need to ;)
Quote from: T840MAK on January 09, 2017, 12:36:35 PM
Recent movements;
Solos into Doncaster, no ideas of numbers, along with Weymouth B7RLEs.
33061-33064 now reside in South Wales
31137-31140 now reside in West Yorkshire
32263/4/5/7 now reside in Sheffield
From memory the Solos are 53401/807/10 plus others. 401 is ex Bristol,the other two named plus one other are ex Bath via South Wales.
Quote from: markcf83 on January 09, 2017, 02:06:58 PM
From memory the Solos are 53401/807/10 plus others. 401 is ex Bristol,the other two named plus one other are ex Bath via South Wales.
Think 53808 is here too.
Also forgot to mention that all the Rotherham B9s are now at Doncaster, these are 37231/37259/37261-37263/37494 and will be joined by Huddersfield's loan bus 37258 once 37031 finally makes its way over.
It is,as is one time London Solo 53703.
Latest internal fleet movements stand at
30564-30565 30567-30570 30575 30577 Rotherham > Doncaster
30578 31142 31144-31145 31786 32108-32111 32215-32220 32308-32312 35101 35102 35117-35138 60621 60704-60706 60720-60722 60724 60726-60731 60733-60735 60738-60744 63038-63041 63369 63371 63380 63382 63387-63388 66168 Rotherham > Olive Grove
This makes the South Yorkshire fleet as of 19/02/2017 stand at:
Doncaster:
30564-30565 30567-30570 30575 30577 31148 31781-31785 32261 32268-32276 33032 33041 33070-33071 33083 33124-33125 33127-33128 33230 37228 37230-37237 37257-37259 37261-37263 37494 44925-44927 47482-47490 53401 53703 53807-53808 53810 60406 60622 60718 60888-60889 60898-60902 61192-61204 61206-61209 61211 62232 62234-62235 62237 62239-62240 62243-62244 63370 63372-63379 63381 63383-63386 69213-69217 69461-69465
Outstanding: 69512-69514 in, 44925-44927 out
Olive Grove:
30578 30937-30938 31129-31135 31141-31142 31144-31145 31786 32108-32111 32215-32220 32263-32265 32267 32308-32312 33031 33052 33858-33872 35101 35102 35117-35138 37103-37122 37229 37264-37265 37472-37493 37495-37499 37509-37524 37526-37529 60621 60703-60717 60719-60722 60726-60731 60733-60745 63001-63041 63119-63145 63369 63371 63380 63382 63387-63388 67141-67150 69020 69022-69026 69028-69033 69043-69056 66112 66168
Withdrawn: 32957 33065 33069 33082
Quote from: T840MAK on February 19, 2017, 04:45:06 PM
Latest internal fleet movements stand at
30564-30565 30567-30570 30575 30577 Rotherham > Doncaster
30578 31142 31144-31145 31786 32108-32111 32215-32220 32308-32312 35101 35102 35117-35138 60621 60704-60706 60720-60722 60724 60726-60731 60733-60735 60738-60744 63038-63041 63369 63371 63380 63382 63387-63388 66168 Rotherham > Olive Grove
This makes the South Yorkshire fleet as of 19/02/2017 stand at:
Doncaster:
30564-30565 30567-30570 30575 30577 31148 31781-31785 32261 32268-32276 33032 33041 33070-33071 33083 33124-33125 33127-33128 33230 37228 37230-37237 37257-37259 37261-37263 37494 44925-44927 47482-47490 53401 53703 53807-53808 53810 60406 60622 60718 60888-60889 60898-60902 61192-61204 61206-61209 61211 62232 62234-62235 62237 62239-62240 62243-62244 63370 63372-63379 63381 63383-63386 69213-69217 69461-69465
Outstanding: 69512-69514 in, 44925-44927 out
Olive Grove:
30578 30937-30938 31129-31135 31141-31142 31144-31145 31786 32108-32111 32215-32220 32263-32265 32267 32308-32312 33031 33052 33858-33872 35101 35102 35117-35138 37229 37264-37265 37472-37493 37495-37499 37509-37524 37526-37529 60621 60703-60717 60719-60722 60726-60731 60733-60745 63001-63041 63119-63145 63369 63371 63380 63382 63387-63388 67141-67150 69020 69022-69026 69028-69033 69043-69056 66112 66168
Withdrawn: 32957 33065 33069 33082
Just out of interest, what happened to 37103-22? Are they still in Sheffield, or have they transferred to West Yorkshire (or elsewhere) as they aren't on the list.
Quote from: Cheese on February 19, 2017, 07:42:22 PM
Just out of interest, what happened to 37103-22? Are they still in Sheffield, or have they transferred to West Yorkshire (or elsewhere) as they aren't on the list.
Still in Sheffield.
Quote from: Cheese on February 19, 2017, 07:42:22 PM
Just out of interest, what happened to 37103-22? Are they still in Sheffield, or have they transferred to West Yorkshire (or elsewhere) as they aren't on the list.
Knew I'd forget something...! Yes, still in Sheffield :)
Quote from: T840MAK on February 19, 2017, 04:45:06 PM
Latest internal fleet movements stand at
30564-30565 30567-30570 30575 30577 Rotherham > Doncaster
30578 31142 31144-31145 31786 32108-32111 32215-32220 32308-32312 35101 35102 35117-35138 60621 60704-60706 60720-60722 60724 60726-60731 60733-60735 60738-60744 63038-63041 63369 63371 63380 63382 63387-63388 66168 Rotherham > Olive Grove
This makes the South Yorkshire fleet as of 19/02/2017 stand at:
Doncaster:
30564-30565 30567-30570 30575 30577 31148 31781-31785 32261 32268-32276 33032 33041 33070-33071 33083 33124-33125 33127-33128 33230 37228 37230-37237 37257-37259 37261-37263 37494 44925-44927 47482-47490 53401 53703 53807-53808 53810 60406 60622 60718 60888-60889 60898-60902 61192-61204 61206-61209 61211 62232 62234-62235 62237 62239-62240 62243-62244 63370 63372-63379 63381 63383-63386 69213-69217 69461-69465
Outstanding: 69512-69514 in, 44925-44927 out
Olive Grove:
30578 30937-30938 31129-31135 31141-31142 31144-31145 31786 32108-32111 32215-32220 32263-32265 32267 32308-32312 33031 33052 33858-33872 35101 35102 35117-35138 37103-37122 37229 37264-37265 37472-37493 37495-37499 37509-37524 37526-37529 60621 60703-60717 60719-60722 60726-60731 60733-60745 63001-63041 63119-63145 63369 63371 63380 63382 63387-63388 67141-67150 69020 69022-69026 69028-69033 69043-69056 66112 66168
Withdrawn: 32957 33065 33069 33082
What routes are Olive Groves B7TLs and remaining Tridents found on
@T840MAK
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on February 20, 2017, 08:00:48 PM
What routes are Olive Groves B7TLs and remaining Tridents found on @T840MAK
Any really. We don't seem to have specific allocations as such anymore, however anything euro 2 (30937/30938/60703 and the B10s) are usually now found on Rotherham routes, or if in Sheffield 8/8a (when they turn up)
Quote from: T840MAK on February 26, 2017, 06:42:55 PM
Any really. We don't seem to have specific allocations as such anymore, however anything euro 2 (30937/30938/60703 and the B10s) are usually now found on Rotherham routes, or if in Sheffield 8/8a (when they turn up)
Ok thanks
@T840MAK
Quote from: T840MAK on February 19, 2017, 04:45:06 PM
Doncaster:
30564-30565 30567-30570 30575 30577 31148 31781-31785 32261 32268-32276 33032 33041 33070-33071 33083 33124-33125 33127-33128 33230 37228 37230-37237 37257-37259 37261-37263 37494 44925-44927 47482-47490 53401 53703 53807-53808 53810 60406 60622 60718 60888-60889 60898-60902 61192-61204 61206-61209 61211 62232 62234-62235 62237 62239-62240 62243-62244 63370 63372-63379 63381 63383-63386 69213-69217 69461-69465
Outstanding: 69512-69514 in, 44925-44927 out
Olive Grove:
30578 30937-30938 31129-31135 31141-31142 31144-31145 31786 32108-32111 32215-32220 32263-32265 32267 32308-32312 33052 33858-33872 35101 35102 35117-35138 37103-37122 37229 37264-37265 37472-37493 37495-37499 37509-37524 37526-37529 60621 60703-60717 60719-60722 60726-60731 60733-60745 63001-63041 63119-63145 63369 63371 63380 63382 63387-63388 67141-67150 69020 69022-69026 69028-69033 69043-69056 66112 66168
Withdrawn: 32957 33031 33065 33069 33082
Saw a normal-livery Gemini 1 on the X6 in Leeds. Is this common?
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on March 06, 2017, 05:19:52 PM
Saw a normal-livery Gemini 1 on the X6 in Leeds. Is this common?
No.
It's also not First South Yorkshrie ???
Quote from: T840MAK on March 07, 2017, 06:16:30 PM
It's also not First South Yorkshrie ???
That's what I was thinking. X6 is ran by Bradford, which is First West Yorkshire, if I'm not mistaken.
First Sheffield SN18 XYH was out today for the first time. It was on the 95.
The driver of 63386 on the X78 needs to told about what tickets are accepted on their buses.