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Started by 6013, July 22, 2013, 09:39:24 PM

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Lukeee

The problem with the 907 missing out tesco beggars bush is that quite a lot of people use these stops, they often tend to be one of the busiest stops between Perry Barr and sutton. Does the timetable have any drop back at the sutton terminus (been a while since I caught the 907, usually catch the 7)

John

Quote from: Lukeee on April 16, 2018, 09:07:57 AM
The problem with the 907 missing out tesco beggars bush is that quite a lot of people use these stops, they often tend to be one of the busiest stops between Perry Barr and sutton. Does the timetable have any drop back at the sutton terminus (been a while since I caught the 907, usually catch the 7)

Around 10 minutes in the week and 20 on Saturdays

Jack

#3767
Notices have now started appearing on bus stops around here that the 52/A will be replaced by the 952. They city Stop also has them, now people aren't happy it will just be the 33 and 51 again on the Birchfield Road and Newtown Row serving all the stops and that they will not cope and be packed again. More angry people from Perry Beeches as well.

Tony

Quote from: Jack on April 17, 2018, 07:43:59 PM
Notices have now started appearing on bus stops around here that the 52/A will be replaced by the 952. They city Stop also has them, now people aren't happy it will just be the 33 and 51 again on the Birchfield Road and Newtown Row serving all the stops and that they will not cope and be packed again. More angry people from Perry Beeches as well.

Really? What sample of the travelling public have you interviewed.

The 33 & 51 won't cope?

Have you surveyed how many empty seat per hour there are on the 33 & 51?

It's not along ago we were being told on here people don't like the single decks and Birchfield Road passengers always waited for double decks

What you actually mean is you are not happy with the changes so claim 'people' aren't

Jack

Quote from: Tony on April 17, 2018, 07:53:51 PM
Really? What sample of the travelling public have you interviewed.

The 33 & 51 won't cope?

Have you surveyed how many empty seat per hour there are on the 33 & 51?

It's not along ago we were being told on here people don't like the single decks and Birchfield Road passengers always waited for double decks

What you actually mean is you are not happy with the changes so claim 'people' aren't
The whole point of the 52/A being reintroduced was to ease out the loadings on the 33/51. They were always full prior to it coming back.

No, people didn't like the Single Decks but they had no choice to cram onto them, the E200's were a joke.

I'm not thrilled with the changes, and a lot of the users aren't happy here.
I remember being told the 952 was withdrawn because of low usage, so I wonder why it's returned.

Sh4318

Quote from: Jack on April 17, 2018, 08:00:51 PM
The whole point of the 52/A being reintroduced was to ease out the loadings on the 33/51. They were always full prior to it coming back.

No, people didn't like the Single Decks but they had no choice to cram onto them, the E200's were a joke.

I'm not thrilled with the changes, and a lot of the users aren't happy here.
I remember being told the 952 was withdrawn because of low usage, so I wonder why it's returned.

Weren't the 33 & 51 were every 3/4 minutes (combined, every 7/8 individually) before the 52/A was introduced?

The same frequency as the 33/51/52/52A currently?
Class 153, 155 and 156. The Super Sprinters
Local Routes: 21, 89, 48/A, 12/A, 54/A
Semi-local routes: 80, 87

Jack

Quote from: Sh4318 on April 17, 2018, 10:19:45 PM
Weren't the 33 & 51 were every 3/4 minutes (combined, every 7/8 individually) before the 52/A was introduced?

The same frequency as the 33/51/52/52A currently?
The 33/51 were combined to 4 minutes and were both 8 minutes individually. When the 52/A came back the 33 and 51 both individually went to 10 minutes. The 52 and 52A were both combined to 10 minutes. This created buses to being every few minutes, aka 3 minutes.

Trident 4194

Quote from: Jack on April 18, 2018, 06:10:18 PM
The 33/51 were combined to 4 minutes and were both 8 minutes individually. When the 52/A came back the 33 and 51 both individually went to 10 minutes. The 52 and 52A were both combined to 10 minutes. This created buses to being every few minutes, aka 3 minutes.

Does that corridor really require such a high frequency though? Sure you can get the train if you don't like it?

Tony

Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 18, 2018, 06:13:44 PM
Does that corridor really require such a high frequency though? Sure you can get the train if you don't like it?

Get the train to where?
Six Ways, Aston,
Alexander Stadium
Great Barr, The Clifton
Scott Arms
WBA training ground
The Bell
The Boundary
Beeches Estate
Kingstanding
Pheasey

Which station serves any of those places?

Jack

Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 18, 2018, 06:13:44 PM
Does that corridor really require such a high frequency though? Sure you can get the train if you don't like it?
Never said I didn't like it.

Come and see how busy this corridor gets, the Omnilinks on the 52/A are an example of how busy it gets. Shame the 4H isn't as frequent.

Trident 4194

Quote from: Jack on April 18, 2018, 06:25:40 PM
Never said I didn't like it.

Come and see how busy this corridor gets, the Omnilinks on the 52/A are an example of how busy it gets. Shame the 4H isn't as frequent.

Wouldn't  want an increased frequency on nx 4H, I catch diamond anyway far quicker. If your going to refer to peaks then every bus is going to experience overcrowding. Even on a double decker I can end up standing

BK63 YWP

Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 18, 2018, 07:06:53 PM
Wouldn't  want an increased frequency on nx 4H, I catch diamond anyway far quicker. If your going to refer to peaks then every bus is going to experience overcrowding. Even on a double decker I can end up standing

Because it picks up hardly any passengers, some times wonders off route for a short cut  "cough" 226 "cough" when has the NX 4 had a double decker recently? Unless it was an invisible one!

And the NX4H went from every 30 mins to every 20... so they are trying to sort the heavy loads.

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Kevin

Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 18, 2018, 06:13:44 PM
Does that corridor really require such a high frequency though? Sure you can get the train if you don't like it?

To answer it: yes
The thing I'm curious about, the 51 and 33 are going to be "up to every 10 mins", so overall this is now a reduction in frequency from either current situation or the case from when the 952 existed before
Also, 952 only gonna be ever hour on a Sunday again, would have thought they'd do half hourly
Now in exile in Oxfordshire....
 

Jack

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Also, 952 only gonna be ever hour on a Sunday again, would have thought they'd do half hourly
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It doesn't matter, Perry Beeches isn't important.

Sh4318

Quote from: Jack on April 18, 2018, 06:10:18 PM
The 33/51 were combined to 4 minutes and were both 8 minutes individually. When the 52/A came back the 33 and 51 both individually went to 10 minutes. The 52 and 52A were both combined to 10 minutes. This created buses to being every few minutes, aka 3 minutes.

Ahh, I see. That'll be every 3/4 minutes by the way
Class 153, 155 and 156. The Super Sprinters
Local Routes: 21, 89, 48/A, 12/A, 54/A
Semi-local routes: 80, 87

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