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It sounds like 3301 onwards was a nod to history - I always thought E200 MMC's 2201-50 at Acocks Green were the same (bearing in mind Rolls Royce engine Mk1 Metrobuses 2226-45 were based there for many years). I know some have been transferred to YW. 


Go back further to when BCT had just 35 single deckers: 2231-2260 were Tigers, 2261-5 Olympics.  And YW had some Tigers for the 27.
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National Express West Midlands / Re: Buses on loan
« Last post by mranon on Today at 10:26:06 PM »
2005 seen on a pn route, and 2110 seen on wn 5
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National Express West Midlands / Re: INIT - Ticket Machines
« Last post by paulb1973 on Today at 08:57:07 PM »
C48 [Courthouse - Hospital - Ernesford] began about 1991 (when Sainsburys opened?), the Hospital - Ernesford bit axed around 2001 and the remainder axed in 2004 in favour of DeCourcey's new 703/4.
C44 [City - Rail Station - Ernesford] was a different peak only service which ran for a similar period of years.

C61 [City - Brade Drive] is probably the most recent such Stagecoach tender which lasted for a few months in 2012.And you still managed to spell 'Avenue' incorrectly.  ;D

Yes, the 44 was to Ernesford Grange only [possibly Princethorpe Way/Binley Rd] - I remember going home on it from work, I think it used the Ring Road, London Rd & Allard Way (rather than use Stoke Aldermoor) to get to its destination. I recall grabbing a ride on Fleetline 6922 one weekday. The only time I can remember travelling that end of Allard Way on a bus.
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It would be simple to change the 7/8 of 67xx/68xx to a lower number if the need arises - presuming the systems in place can deal with reuse of the released numbers!

However, unless there's been a change in Policy (entirely possible given new NX Bus management this year), I would doubt 6101-6148 remain unique as 'standard Crimson spec' new MMCs. Noting that Coventry need 49 odd new or transferred (long term, not v elderly Trident) vehicles perhaps we'll see some new blue MMCs in due course - although it wouldn't surprise me if they have Platinum spec as well on the Leamington corridor.

I agree regarding the closing of spec nationally between premium and normal buses - travelling a lot on More bus (Go South Coast) recently, many of their vehicles on standard urban routes have usb and wifi and leather seats - only the longer distance routes have tables as well...

Regarding the Streetdecks, whether it's a coincidence or not, 3301 was the first BCT Metro Cammell Fleetline in 1963 - it also allows 700 vehicles before previously used 4001 occurs again. It remains to be seen whether a bulk order is placed at some stage - it would seem logical if not probable that a second supplier of double deck diesel or hybrids would be used.


Its possible in future years, the current E400 MMC Platinum buses may be superseded by newer designs, rendering the current crop a little out of date. But they'll likely remain with their current fleet numbers (NX seem cool on re-numbering buses/re-using numbers). They could in theory be down-graded and repainted into the 'normal' livery in the fullness of time - but their fleet numbers will still make them stand out. Perhaps 6101 onwards for all MMC's would have been better, regardless of specification.

It sounds like 3301 onwards was a nod to history - I always thought E200 MMC's 2201-50 at Acocks Green were the same (bearing in mind Rolls Royce engine Mk1 Metrobuses 2226-45 were based there for many years). I know some have been transferred to YW. 

I suspect they will Platinum-ise the 11/12 corridor to Leamington Spa eventually, they are half way there now.
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In case anyone was unaware, I run the 'West Midlands Bus Users' Facebook page, and also have a website for the same.

I recently put out a plea for volunteers to assist me, as I really don't have a lot of spare time to dedicate to either now. @Adam 404 from here has kindly offered to help me out with the Facebook page, which I am very grateful for.

Is anyone else here interested in contributing blog posts for the website? If you're familiar with Wordpress, that's a great benefit, otherwise if you have interesting things West Midlands bus-related you'd like to write about (purely on a voluntary basis, I don't make any money from the website or Facebook page) I'd love to hear from you.

Either send me a PM here, or use the Contact Form on my website to get in touch.

Thanks in advance!
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Saw 4497 on Washwood Heath Road just before the Cadet Building around 18:45 with an ambulance behind her. Hazards flashing, interior lights on but headlights off. Drove past in my car, anybody any ideas on what had occurred?
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Carlyle, West Bromwich - 764; 866; 2245; 4290; 4906; 6724; 6817
Graysons, Bickenhill - 2009
Hartshornes, Willenhall - 1772; 2085; 2109; 2111; 2149; 4692; 5504; 5516
Scania Bedworth - 1929
Scania Great Bridge - 1848
?, Wootton Bassett 5409
Paint 1856; 1887; 1922; 2059; 2067; 2165; 3225; 4176; 4253; 4467; 4490; 4495; 4552; 5503; 5507; 5509
Walsall - 4137
Millers Street - 4218
Birmingham Central - 4198
Perry Barr - 1767; 4657; 4748
on loan 2233; 2249 at AG

Hope 4218's stay at MS is only a brief one! (it paid a visit there in 2001)
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I think youíre missing my point, but ok, letís agree to disagree.
Crimson WA's E400 and they'll just look good as new like PB's did. I'm not sure what you didn't understand.
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I don't think they're candidates. Just Crimson the ones on the 51 and they'll look as good as new like the 33's buses. I would say the 51 is more high profile than the 33.

I think youíre missing my point, but ok, letís agree to disagree.

6855 appears to have the cab side fleet number and lettering in reversed positions - the fleet number is midway along the cab side. When vehicles are lined up in a depot probably more difficult to identify from the offside. Incorrect application or change of Policy?

Something to do with the branding (if any) to be applied maybe?
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They are only 6 years old. But they could be cascaded onto other routes (such as the 65/67 which are allocated buses in an Ďappalling stateí) if the 33/51 were upgraded.

Not saying they should get new buses, but you would think both routes are candidates at the very least.

I would say the 33 is a more high profile route than the 65/67, but thatís another debate
I don't think they're candidates. Just Crimson the ones on the 51 and they'll look as good as new like the 33's buses. I would say the 51 is more high profile than the 33.
The 65/67 are candidates, considering they are mostly ran by 16 year old ALX400 B7TLs.
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