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Started by Stu, November 14, 2013, 06:09:54 PM

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Trident 4609

Quote from: Sh4166 on November 15, 2013, 08:08:49 PM
I don't think the 126 ever runs on time ::)


Again Partly affected by Moor Street being usually grid locked

Stu

Worse is when you get a bit of bad weather, and the whole city gets gridlocked. Traffic is crawling, along with the buses, at around 2mph, I do recall the once managing to gratefully get on a bus out of the cold, then a few stops further on, some irate woman starts ranting at the driver that she's had to wait nearly twenty minutes for him to turn up! On the outside, I'm a pretty cool guy, but inside I was seething and just wanted to rant across the bus "FFS woman, open your eyes and look around you at what's going on here!"  >:(
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Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 15, 2013, 08:25:28 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on November 15, 2013, 08:08:49 PM
I don't think the 126 ever runs on time ::)


Again Partly affected by Moor Street being usually grid locked

It's not just that, I've used it most of my life, and I don't ever recall it being on time :P (actually I'm lying, it might have been on time once ;))
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nitromatt1

Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 15, 2013, 08:25:28 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on November 15, 2013, 08:08:49 PM
I don't think the 126 ever runs on time ::)


Again Partly affected by Moor Street being usually grid locked

It isn't just Moor Street, a lot of the 126's route around the city centre can get clogged with traffic, plus you have anywhere along the Hagley Road slowing to walking pace at peak times, and the Birmingham New Road

Liverpool Street

Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 15, 2013, 08:27:46 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 15, 2013, 08:25:28 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on November 15, 2013, 08:08:49 PM
I don't think the 126 ever runs on time ::)


Again Partly affected by Moor Street being usually grid locked

It isn't just Moor Street, a lot of the 126's route around the city centre can get clogged with traffic, plus you have anywhere along the Hagley Road slowing to walking pace at peak times, and the Birmingham New Road

Hagley Road is abysmal at the best of times!! Disgusting piece of road.
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Trident 4609

And thats why i said 'partially affected' as i am aware that Hagley Rd and Birmingham New Rd get clogged regually ;) (I use the route regually)

Entering and Leaving Wolverhampton can be quite bad at peak times too

nitromatt1

Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 15, 2013, 08:35:08 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 15, 2013, 08:27:46 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 15, 2013, 08:25:28 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on November 15, 2013, 08:08:49 PM
I don't think the 126 ever runs on time ::)


Again Partly affected by Moor Street being usually grid locked

It isn't just Moor Street, a lot of the 126's route around the city centre can get clogged with traffic, plus you have anywhere along the Hagley Road slowing to walking pace at peak times, and the Birmingham New Road

Hagley Road is abysmal at the best of times!! Disgusting piece of road.

Tell me about it, dangerous as well with four lanes of traffic running so close together. I would even back a speed limit reduction to 20mph between the city and Bearwood for safety reasons, which I believe has been planned

the trainbasher

Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 15, 2013, 08:48:29 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 15, 2013, 08:35:08 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 15, 2013, 08:27:46 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 15, 2013, 08:25:28 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on November 15, 2013, 08:08:49 PM
I don't think the 126 ever runs on time ::)


Again Partly affected by Moor Street being usually grid locked

It isn't just Moor Street, a lot of the 126's route around the city centre can get clogged with traffic, plus you have anywhere along the Hagley Road slowing to walking pace at peak times, and the Birmingham New Road

Hagley Road is abysmal at the best of times!! Disgusting piece of road.

Tell me about it, dangerous as well with four lanes of traffic running so close together. I would even back a speed limit reduction to 20mph between the city and Bearwood for safety reasons, which I believe has been planned

20mph? Are you out of your mind? 20mph can cause just as much safety issues that 40mph does. Even the BBC shows that some 2,262 people were road casualties in the zones over the 2011 year - 1,966 of them minor injuries - according to the Department for Transport figures.

That will also cause more running time needed on bus routes that serve the Hagley Road, Thus increasing PVR.

I have looked at some stats from the DfT which I have collated and have noticed that you are more likely to die on a 30mph road than a 40mph road. (Original Stats)


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nitromatt1

Quote from: the trainbasher on November 15, 2013, 09:20:05 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 15, 2013, 08:48:29 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 15, 2013, 08:35:08 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 15, 2013, 08:27:46 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 15, 2013, 08:25:28 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on November 15, 2013, 08:08:49 PM
I don't think the 126 ever runs on time ::)


Again Partly affected by Moor Street being usually grid locked

It isn't just Moor Street, a lot of the 126's route around the city centre can get clogged with traffic, plus you have anywhere along the Hagley Road slowing to walking pace at peak times, and the Birmingham New Road

Hagley Road is abysmal at the best of times!! Disgusting piece of road.

Tell me about it, dangerous as well with four lanes of traffic running so close together. I would even back a speed limit reduction to 20mph between the city and Bearwood for safety reasons, which I believe has been planned

20mph? Are you out of your mind? 20mph can cause just as much safety issues that 40mph does. Even the BBC shows that some 2,262 people were road casualties in the zones over the 2011 year - 1,966 of them minor injuries - according to the Department for Transport figures.

That will also cause more running time needed on bus routes that serve the Hagley Road, Thus increasing PVR.

I have looked at some stats from the DfT which I have collated and have noticed that you are more likely to die on a 30mph road than a 40mph road. (Original Stats)

I remember reading somewhere that plans have been laid to reduce something like 90% of 30mph roads in inner Birmingham to a 20mph limit, with some roads such as the Hagley Road I can see the ideas. However as you say, this would affect the running time of the Hagley Road routes. The 140 wouldn't be affected too much as it would just eat into the layover at Halesowen, but it would mean an extra bus or two on the 9, and would screw the 141 up

Liverpool Street

Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 15, 2013, 09:49:42 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on November 15, 2013, 09:20:05 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 15, 2013, 08:48:29 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on November 15, 2013, 08:35:08 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 15, 2013, 08:27:46 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 15, 2013, 08:25:28 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on November 15, 2013, 08:08:49 PM
I don't think the 126 ever runs on time ::)


Again Partly affected by Moor Street being usually grid locked

It isn't just Moor Street, a lot of the 126's route around the city centre can get clogged with traffic, plus you have anywhere along the Hagley Road slowing to walking pace at peak times, and the Birmingham New Road

Hagley Road is abysmal at the best of times!! Disgusting piece of road.

Tell me about it, dangerous as well with four lanes of traffic running so close together. I would even back a speed limit reduction to 20mph between the city and Bearwood for safety reasons, which I believe has been planned

20mph? Are you out of your mind? 20mph can cause just as much safety issues that 40mph does. Even the BBC shows that some 2,262 people were road casualties in the zones over the 2011 year - 1,966 of them minor injuries - according to the Department for Transport figures.

That will also cause more running time needed on bus routes that serve the Hagley Road, Thus increasing PVR.

I have looked at some stats from the DfT which I have collated and have noticed that you are more likely to die on a 30mph road than a 40mph road. (Original Stats)

I remember reading somewhere that plans have been laid to reduce something like 90% of 30mph roads in inner Birmingham to a 20mph limit, with some roads such as the Hagley Road I can see the ideas. However as you say, this would affect the running time of the Hagley Road routes. The 140 wouldn't be affected too much as it would just eat into the layover at Halesowen, but it would mean an extra bus or two on the 9, and would screw the 141 up

Yes Matt you're correct it was on BBC news about a week ago. And they're talking of the majority of main corridor roads being 20mph.

The Pershore Road is 20mph anyway without enforcement! Won't work on the BR though. Or the HR I wouldn't of thought.
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makkacdt

its annoying if a bus is late don't get me wrong, but at the end of the day can people really blame a driver for being late, traffic slow passengers and a time table they cant run to at times,

In my opinion all stops should have real time information on them that way we all know when they will be at the stop regardless if early or late
Wouldnt mind a 10 min bus service....

Stu

Quote from: the trainbasher on November 15, 2013, 09:20:05 PM
I have looked at some stats from the DfT which I have collated and have noticed that you are more likely to die on a 30mph road than a 40mph road. (Original Stats)

The chances of a pedestrian dying are also significantly increased if they choose not to wait at a designated pedestrian crossing point, and either walk out or run into oncoming traffic.
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nitromatt1

Something is wrong with the 244 tonight (even more than usual)... it doesn't seem to be turning up and the app says there are 4 running towards Hayley Green within 20 mind

Nathan4775

Two 24's just left town, followed by two 120's.
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Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 21, 2013, 07:56:21 PM
Two 24's just left town, followed by two 120's.

Traffic out of town has been awful recently, last night while waiting for my 37, there were two 5s following each other, and the other evening I waited nearly twenty minutes for the 37, in which time two 2s, a 3 and 3E passed me by.
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