So we have a thread for Birmingham unusual workings, so I thought I'd start one for Tamworth...
To sum up what should normally be on what routes...
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 - Volvo B6BLE 2613 - 2642.
110 - Volvo B9TL 4200 - 4207.
115/116 - Scania Omnilink 3800 - 3809.
765/785 - Scania Omnilink 3800 - 3809.
780/784 - Volvo B6BLE 2613 - 2642.
813 - Dennis Dart (Burton depot)
Didn't notice anything unusual today, except a B9TL Gemini on the 6.
I foyu tried one for cannock it would always have unusal workings as the allocted buses are never on the right routes
Quote from: nx4737 on June 27, 2012, 05:13:24 PM
So we have a thread for Birmingham unusual workings, so I thought I'd start one for Tamworth...
To sum up what should normally be on what routes...
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 - Volvo B6BLE 2613 - 2642.
110 - Volvo B9TL 4200 - 4207.
115/116 - Scania Omnilink 3800 - 3809.
765/785 - Scania Omnilink 3800 - 3809.
780/784 - Volvo B6BLE 2613 - 2642.
813 - Dennis Dart (Burton depot)
Didn't notice anything unusual today, except a B9TL Gemini on the 6.
Adam.
Want to try one for Cannock all I Know it should be
1 Daf sb200 3701-04
2 Daf sb120 2701-2 plus darts
25/6 Volvo B10BLE 36**-3612 or darts
70/76/560 darts or volvo10BLE
31/32/33 Darts or MPDS
X31 Scanias
plus a variant of vdl dafs on other routes can anyone do better
Can't say I know much about Cannock at all, sorry!
Things have been quite quiet here, not seen anything unusual for a few days, which in its self is unusual!
Does the 76 regularly run Plaxton Centros or is this unusual? I seem to see a lot when I'm up town. Also a Gemini frequents Wolverhampton.
gemini decker????
Sorry didn't mean Gemini - I'm confusing myself. Single decker eclipse of some description.
it could be an 09 telford one on 890/891/892 or it could be a 57 reg stafford-cannock branded on on the 68/70/76/560 or a new 61 plate one
Quote from: Discodave on July 02, 2012, 12:17:53 PM
Quote from: nx4737 on June 27, 2012, 05:13:24 PM
So we have a thread for Birmingham unusual workings, so I thought I'd start one for Tamworth...
To sum up what should normally be on what routes...
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 - Volvo B6BLE 2613 - 2642.
110 - Volvo B9TL 4200 - 4207.
115/116 - Scania Omnilink 3800 - 3809.
765/785 - Scania Omnilink 3800 - 3809.
780/784 - Volvo B6BLE 2613 - 2642.
813 - Dennis Dart (Burton depot)
Didn't notice anything unusual today, except a B9TL Gemini on the 6.
Adam.
Want to try one for Cannock all I Know it should be
1 Daf sb200 3701-04
2 Daf sb120 2701-2 plus darts
25/6 Volvo B10BLE 36**-3612 or darts
70/76/560 darts or volvo10BLE
31/32/33 Darts or MPDS
X31 Scanias
plus a variant of vdl dafs on other routes can anyone do better
add 74/75 3727-3731 60/825 3756-3766
Thanks for that should have known at least the route once working at ck and sd
X31 Scania was on the 2 today, the other one was on the X31 so not sure what the second bus was in it? they should divert a couple of new enviro 200s for the X31 it doesnt need full size buses
There was a Gemini on the 6 in Tamworth again today, which IMO is a total waste, it's a short route that is perfectly suited to single decker operation, and besides, sticking a Gem on the 6 means that there will have to be a Scania/B6 on the 110!
Quote from: nx4737 on July 05, 2012, 04:14:59 AM
There was a Gemini on the 6 in Tamworth again today, which IMO is a total waste, it's a short route that is perfectly suited to single decker operation, and besides, sticking a Gem on the 6 means that there will have to be a Scania/B6 on the 110!
Either that or have a Gemini with gear problems on a long haul route...easier to recover if it was to breakdown.
B6's on the 116 and 785 today!
Not sure what's happened to the Omnis! ;D
MOT and the other was a spare
The B6's are starting to have the Local Linx branding removed in preperation for the Citaros by the looks of things... The one I just used to get home on the 9 was down to the bear metal where the branding has been pealed off!
Has there been a definate decision on where theyre going yet?
Stafford & Burton
If that's the case God help anybody who gets one on Winshill or Dalebrook in Burton, they will have to get out and push!
What will they replace in stafford?
I'd be interested to see if they ever get put into the new fleet colours... apart from a Scania Paladin thingy Tamworth haven't really bothered with the repaints at all...
I think the only reason a few of the OmniLinks are in the new livery is because it was changed during the order, the still have the older style seat trim!
Quote from: nx4737 on August 03, 2012, 04:48:41 AM
I think the only reason a few of the OmniLinks are in the new livery is because it was changed during the order, the still have the older style seat trim!
The reason for this was that originally Arriva were only going to use the new livery for branded services...all the ones that arrived at Tamworth branded for City Linx were in the new colours, the unbranded ones were in the old....eventually Arriva decided to adopt that livery for everything but it was too late for that order.
The B6's had already had their retrim and repaint before this decision was made too.
Quote from: andy on August 03, 2012, 12:15:45 PM
Quote from: nx4737 on August 03, 2012, 04:48:41 AM
I think the only reason a few of the OmniLinks are in the new livery is because it was changed during the order, the still have the older style seat trim!
The reason for this was that originally Arriva were only going to use the new livery for branded services...all the ones that arrived at Tamworth branded for City Linx were in the new colours, the unbranded ones were in the old....eventually Arriva decided to adopt that livery for everything but it was too late for that order.
The B6's had already had their retrim and repaint before this decision was made too.
Ah, thanks for the explanation!
I still think the Omnis would look pretty nice with the new trim, like the OmniCitys that Arriva use on the 93 from Scarborough to Whitby, they look so much brighter!
So today, there was a B9TL on the 3 and Scania on the 110...
Also saw a WB Enviro200 heading towards the garage, didn't get a fleet number or anything though, it shot past before I realised what it was!
with regards to B6s now with the new Midland aqusition maybe they could go there to rid them of the darts first not so many to scrap but knowing Arriva a lot will be kept running and refubed for Cannock as its full of crap
West Brom E200 in Tamworth today, people on board but not in service, heading towards TH garage...
Another W200 in service on the 6 in Tamworth today...
Was that an E200 not a w200 looks like now they have midland the crap will be at hill top cascaded from wednesfield and cannock break downs here we come and another arriva west midland adventure failure
New Citaro 3018 has arrived here
Sorry yeah, meant to be E200, blame the iPhone :-)
Is 3018 at Tamworth now then? I'd better get some B6 photos while I can then!
Here's the E200 on the 6 on Thursday...
(https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7137%2F7804386382_493fdbe28c.jpg&hash=e9273545e3aaefa4f2a77cda06facbe599368ea2) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adampriseman/7804386382/)
Arriva Midlands North 2146 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adampriseman/7804386382/) by NX4737 (http://www.flickr.com/people/adampriseman/), on Flickr
Yeah, only one here at the moment....
Quote from: Goodbus on August 17, 2012, 11:42:05 PM
Yeah, only one here at the moment....
Has it entered service yet? Not seen or heard anything...
I notice arriva drivers on the 110 service ..(b9's i think they are.) have taken to closing the doors at each termini after passengers are off.... It gives them an opportunity to examine the bus on both upper and lower decks before they re-open the doors..good idea..Why is it not happening elsewhere??..If the coventry WM drivers had developed this habit Last May they would have found my binnoculars.. >:(
two deckers off 110's today, i see tony has uploade a picture of 2614 being on there and omnilink 3800 was on when i was in Tamworth and 1 decker was on 3's and the other 1 was just coming out of the garrage
Quote from: arrivaaston on September 12, 2012, 11:33:30 PM
two deckers off 110's today, i see tony has uploade a picture of 2614 being on there and omnilink 3800 was on when i was in Tamworth and 1 decker was on 3's and the other 1 was just coming out of the garrage
That just about sums up most days to be fair...
sounds like a cannock day wrong buses everywhere
Quote from: arrivaaston on September 12, 2012, 11:33:30 PM
two deckers off 110's today, i see tony has uploade a picture of 2614 being on there and omnilink 3800 was on when i was in Tamworth and 1 decker was on 3's and the other 1 was just coming out of the garrage
One of them was a service and the one on the 3's has a intermittent gear problem so is kept on locals.
another 'strange' 1 in cannock or 'normal' day in cannock
1: 2397/2736/3703/3737/3739
2: 2390/3741
2A: 2277/3740
25,26: 3730/2731/2328/2351/2315/3603
31: 3762
32: Usual Darts plus 2702
33: Usual Darts plus 2701
68: 3810/ 3606/ 2274
70: Usual Day of volvos (V-DBC)
3762 was on the 835 tonight. Tony
is that the 1 that gets back to cannock from stafford at 5.00 and then does the 5.05 60 or is that the 836??
Quote from: arrivaaston on September 13, 2012, 06:28:07 PM
another 'strange' 1 in cannock or 'normal' day in cannock
1: 2397/2736/3703/3737/3739
2: 2390/3741
2A: 2277/3740
25,26: 3730/2731/2328/2351/2315/3603
31: 3762
32: Usual Darts plus 2702
33: Usual Darts plus 2701
68: 3810/ 3606/ 2274
70: Usual Day of volvos (V-DBC)
Seems quite normal day see branded buses on wrong routes as I have said numerous time why bother plus why put volvos on a tendered 68 that deserves darts all its gets are passes and fresh air seen it in wednesfield a peak time run one person on an OAP a good use of tax payers money not.
36** are wasted on 68's and to be honest there wasted on Pye Greens, im not really keen on these buses but surely they are best off working the 70's and 76's
ok been to cannock again today and as normal the buses are all off route, this is what i saw
1: 3610, 3736, 3737 and a 61 plate (not sure what the 5th bus was)
2: 2239, 2701
2A: 3727
31: 61 plate
32: usual darts
33: usual darts
25/26: 2274/ 2146/ 2328/ 2351/ 3739/ 2291
68: only 2 i saw on here today was 3605 and route 1 branded 3703
Strange site on Victoria Road today, 4 Volvo Geminis in a row... 2 on the 110, one on the 5 and the other on the 6...
On 4207 at the moment that for some reason, is void of any City Linx branding...
Wasn't 4207 the 1 with aĺl over ad on it??
Ah yeah, I think you're right!
I saw it a few days ago too, from a distance and wondered if it was on loan from Derby or something!
Most local routes had there share of Citaros today, with the odd B6 thrown in too.
Ominlink on the 110 today... again...
Versa on the 112.
Saw the Versa going into Sutton just before 5 tonight,it was 2987.
Saw B6 2616 on the 5 at teatime today. First time I've seen a B6 on routes 3/4/5/7/8/9 since 6 October.
Not seen one on the 8/9 since the Mercs were introduced either!
Ex Cannock Scania on the 765 earlier, seen in Hopwas village at about 4pm.
B6 on the 765 today...
Ex-Cannock/X31 Scania on the 785 as well, did Arriva repaint them themselves?
Yes - it was 2620. It was on the 1515 765 Nuneaton to Lichfield, which returns as the 1700 785.
Quote from: derningtona on November 07, 2012, 06:27:18 PM
Yes - it was 2620. It was on the 1515 765 Nuneaton to Lichfield, which returns as the 1700 785.
Thought I'd seen it at about 14:00 in Tamworth...
2614 is on the 765 today - 1000 ex Lichfield about 15 mins late into Tamworth.
E20D 2149 was seen on the rather secretive route 780 at teatime today.
Unlike when the E20Ds were on the route 6 it had a fully working electronic destination display rather than a board behind the windscreen.
Thought the enviros were for West Bromich not Tamworth?
I think they're maintained at Tamworth. They probably borrow the odd one now and again while they're there.
Quote from: derningtona on November 17, 2012, 05:59:41 PM
E20D 2149 was seen on the rather secretive route 780 at teatime today.
Unlike when the E20Ds were on the route 6 it had a fully working electronic destination display rather than a board behind the windscreen.
Didn't realize we'd got any here at the moment, I'll have to look out for it...
There was a Merc on the 116 at about 10 past 5 in Birmingham this evening, this is becoming quite common though...
3008, I think it was, was on the 110 today as well.
Quote from: derningtona on November 17, 2012, 06:45:12 PM
I think they're maintained at Tamworth. They probably borrow the odd one now and again while they're there.
correct , 2140-2150 are allocated to Tamworth but operated from west bromwich outstation . Tony
Just passed decker 4204 on the 780. From the smallest on Saturday to the largest today!
Quote from: derningtona on November 20, 2012, 04:57:03 PM
Just passed decker 4204 on the 780. From the smallest on Saturday to the largest today!
4204 replaced 2631 as it kept losing gears.
I thought the only b6's left at Tamworth were 2613, 2614, 2615 and 2616? And I thought 3631 was 1 of Telfords??
Quote from: arrivaaston on November 21, 2012, 12:52:56 AM
I thought the only b6's left at Tamworth were 2613, 2614, 2615 and 2616? And I thought 3631 was 1 of Telfords??
I think he meant 2613. It's always had a dodgy gearbox, I'm surprised they didn't take the opportunity to get rid.
It's not likely to be 2613, which has been constantly on its special route 6 - just featured in the local paper. 2620 has also been working in Tamworth regularly. I haven't seen 2631 lately. It was one of 2 which came to Tamworth from Telford. 2630 has been back some considerable time. I don't think 2631 ever went back so 2613-6, 2620 and presumably 2631 are currently around the area and Tamworth only need 3 for routes 2, 6 and 780 (and possibly a spare?).
I ment 2631 lol so am I right in saying this is the current location for the b6's?
2613-Tamworth
2614-Tamworth
2615-Tamworth
2616-Tamworth
2617-Stafford
2618-Stafford
2619-Cannock
2620-Stafford
2621-Stafford
2622-Stafford
2623-Stafford
2624-Stafford
2625-Stafford
2626-Stafford
2627-Stafford
2628-Stafford
2629-Stafford
2630-Telford
2631-Tamworth
2632-Telford
2633-Telford
2634-Telford
2635-Telford
2636-Telford
2637-Telford
2638-Telford
2639-Telford
2640-Stafford
2641-Shrewsbury
2642-Shrewsbury
The list seems about right. Has 2620 arrived at Stafford? I last saw it working from Tamworth on the 7th. I haven't seen 2631 for ages myself. Things seem to be settling down in Tamworth as this afternoon 2613 was on its 6, 2614 was on the 2 and 2615 was on the 780.
Wonder whatll replace them at Stafford, if they get moved to Wednesfield
Apparently there staffords to stay, can't remember wich post but some 1 commented saying the stafford fleet will be b6's, the 4 V/KDA darts and the 3 Y/YBC darts, 2347 has already transfered to Cannock, it was working Pye Greens with 2351
2619 V219KDA is now at Stafford. Saw it when i finished my shift. 2620 is not at Stafford yet.
Must of gone last night or this mornig because I photographed 2619 in cannock on 2's yesterday morning lol
Quote from: arrivaaston on November 21, 2012, 08:08:15 PM
Must of gone last night or this mornig because I photographed 2619 in cannock on 2's yesterday morning lol
2620 is at Tamworth undergoing MOT Prep
Are the remaining b6's at Tamworth going to be resprayed or will they be leaving Tamworth in the future?
Quote from: arrivaaston on November 21, 2012, 10:33:08 PM
Are the remaining b6's at Tamworth going to be resprayed or will they be leaving Tamworth in the future?
Yes, being resprayed.
Quote from: nx4737 on November 22, 2012, 04:13:56 AM
Quote from: arrivaaston on November 21, 2012, 10:33:08 PM
Are the remaining b6's at Tamworth going to be resprayed or will they be leaving Tamworth in the future?
Yes, being resprayed.
No they're not.
2613 has been repainted and branded for the Tamworth Explorer...3800s livery is to be altered too...i
Just 3800 or al the 38** scanias? And are the rest of the b6's been resprayed and finaly what ever happened to 3417?? Not seen it anywhere
Quote from: arrivaaston on November 22, 2012, 06:08:08 PM
Just 3800 or al the 38** scanias? And are the rest of the b6's been resprayed and finaly what ever happened to 3417?? Not seen it anywhere
Not too sure with the scanias, don't think any things planned yet with the B6's, I think 3417 went to Shrewsbury...with assistance of a Tow truck because its MOT ran out....but it could be at Derby now....
Quote from: 2200 Bus on November 22, 2012, 06:03:15 PM
Quote from: nx4737 on November 22, 2012, 04:13:56 AM
Quote from: arrivaaston on November 21, 2012, 10:33:08 PM
Are the remaining b6's at Tamworth going to be resprayed or will they be leaving Tamworth in the future?
Yes, being resprayed.
No they're not.
2613 has been repainted and branded for the Tamworth Explorer...3800s livery is to be altered too...i
3800 Is already in new fleet colours and branded, what could they possibly have in mind for that?
Maybe 3417's a 'donor bus' or a replacement for 3415? And someone has clarrified that its 3416 at Derbys yard, will that be entering service, sold, scrapped or become a trainer??
Quote from: nx4737 on November 22, 2012, 07:19:57 PM
Quote from: 2200 Bus on November 22, 2012, 06:03:15 PM
Quote from: nx4737 on November 22, 2012, 04:13:56 AM
Quote from: arrivaaston on November 21, 2012, 10:33:08 PM
Are the remaining b6's at Tamworth going to be resprayed or will they be leaving Tamworth in the future?
Yes, being resprayed.
No they're not.
2613 has been repainted and branded for the Tamworth Explorer...3800s livery is to be altered too...i
3800 Is already in new fleet colours and branded, what could they possibly have in mind for that?
3800 is in the same livery when it was new, it's having a few "livery revisions" shall we say....
Just 3800 been resprayed or are any more being resprayed?
Quote from: 2200 Bus on November 22, 2012, 09:39:00 PM
Quote from: nx4737 on November 22, 2012, 07:19:57 PM
Quote from: 2200 Bus on November 22, 2012, 06:03:15 PM
Quote from: nx4737 on November 22, 2012, 04:13:56 AM
Quote from: arrivaaston on November 21, 2012, 10:33:08 PM
Are the remaining b6's at Tamworth going to be resprayed or will they be leaving Tamworth in the future?
Yes, being resprayed.
No they're not.
2613 has been repainted and branded for the Tamworth Explorer...3800s livery is to be altered too...i
3800 Is already in new fleet colours and branded, what could they possibly have in mind for that?
3800 is in the same livery when it was new, it's having a few "livery revisions" shall we say....
I'm aware of that, I said 3800 is in interurban, as it was when it was delivered...
Care to reveal what these livery revisions are?
Has it been resprayed because it needed it or resprayed for a reason, it just comes accross as wierd that 3800 is the only 1 mentioned to of been resprayed
Quote from: arrivaaston on November 23, 2012, 05:05:19 PM
Has it been resprayed because it needed it or resprayed for a reason, it just comes accross as wierd that 3800 is the only 1 mentioned to of been resprayed
Only thing I can think of is it's being branded for the 112... But I'm sure 2200 Bus can inform us all...
I would of thought more would of been resprayed and I think the 112 interconnects with the 115
3006 on the 116/112 today
Quote from: nx4737 on November 23, 2012, 05:14:48 PM
Quote from: arrivaaston on November 23, 2012, 05:05:19 PM
Has it been resprayed because it needed it or resprayed for a reason, it just comes accross as wierd that 3800 is the only 1 mentioned to of been resprayed
Only thing I can think of is it's being branded for the 112... But I'm sure 2200 Bus can inform us all...
All "city linx" branded Scania including 3800 are having the City linx branding removed, they will still remain the same standard Arriva livery, it's to make it look better for when they are used on the Lichfield and Nuneaton runs and the locals on a Sunday.
Think they would be better that way to be honest, I used to be confused when burton did the 112 with the scanias and they had the 'City Linx' branding on them
They seem to have been used indiscriminately with the unbranded ones ever since they were new.
The ever demanding folk of Tamworth are not happy with their new Citaros, letters in the local rag complaining about lack of buggy space and uncomfortable buses.
There is a whole generation of people out there now who think a bus is there to transport babies around in colossal moon hoppers and that it is their god given right to shift everyone else out of the way for their ridiculous contraption and it's precious cargo...
Personally one buggy space is too many for me!
Lol pramfaces!
Presumably the legroom cant be any worse than a B6? Surely?
Quote from: andy on November 23, 2012, 09:52:39 PM
The ever demanding folk of Tamworth are not happy with their new Citaros, letters in the local rag complaining about lack of buggy space and uncomfortable buses.
There is a whole generation of people out there now who think a bus is there to transport babies around in colossal moon hoppers and that it is their god given right to shift everyone else out of the way for their ridiculous contraption and it's precious cargo...
Personally one buggy space is too many for me!
Agree with Andy. The number of times I see elderly people struggling down the length of a bus like a trident as all the buggy seats are occupied by parents with more kids than you can imagine. No, I say bring back step entry buses which were/are comfier. Then we wouldnt have the lack of seating issue although i accept that some of the newer low floor buses have seats nearer the front. It would be tempting I think to stick a volvo citybus on a buggy route to teach people a lesson. ;)Unfortunately, it means that metrobuses, fleetlines, citybuses etc will be confined to preservation
I do agree to a point about the prams but on the other hand I've had to use buses where I've go on with a pram, the thing that annoyed me was when an old lady got and asked if I could fold the pram down so she could sit there with her shopping trolley, surely there worse, the passengers with the shopping trollies
Quote from: 2200 Bus on November 23, 2012, 07:21:04 PM
Quote from: nx4737 on November 23, 2012, 05:14:48 PM
Quote from: arrivaaston on November 23, 2012, 05:05:19 PM
Has it been resprayed because it needed it or resprayed for a reason, it just comes accross as wierd that 3800 is the only 1 mentioned to of been resprayed
Only thing I can think of is it's being branded for the 112... But I'm sure 2200 Bus can inform us all...
All "city linx" branded Scania including 3800 are having the City linx branding removed, they will still remain the same standard Arriva livery, it's to make it look better for when they are used on the Lichfield and Nuneaton runs and the locals on a Sunday.
Ah, the big secret is finally revealed!
Good, it makes sense to remove it, they're more often than not on different routes anyway.
3013 on the 15.35 110 to Birmingham. Probably normal with the Sunday interworking.
Quote from: derningtona on November 25, 2012, 05:44:19 PM
3013 on the 15.35 110 to Birmingham. Probably normal with the Sunday interworking.
I'll check this Sunday, but normally it's a mix of Geminis and OmniLinks, but B6s used to end up on the 110 on Sundays, so Mercs wouldn't be a shock.
I've just seen 2616 on the 5 - hot on the heels of a Merc. 17.40 into Town.
Is it normal for b6's, omnilinks and mercs to work the 110 or is it because cannock have 4207?
Quote from: arrivaaston on December 07, 2012, 06:17:47 PM
Is it normal for b6's, omnilinks and mercs to work the 110 or is it because cannock have 4207?
No, but I would call it an occasional working rather than a rare working
Quote from: John on December 07, 2012, 06:22:04 PM
Quote from: arrivaaston on December 07, 2012, 06:17:47 PM
Is it normal for b6's, omnilinks and mercs to work the 110 or is it because cannock have 4207?
No, but I would call it an occasional working rather than a rare working
Nah, it's rare now we've only go the 4 B6's, it's normally Scanias that stand in...
There was a B6 on the 8/9 yesterday evening, didn't see which one.
2631 on the 765 today, is it right to say the remaining for b6's are 2613 V231KDA, 2614 V214 KDA,2615 V215 KDA and 2631 V231KDA and these are staying put?
They should be staying put, yeah, if not, Tamworth will be seriously short of buses...
thought it was 2613/4/5/6 staying at Tamworth assuming 2631 is cover whilst repaints are completed
I thought 2616 was staffords?
Okay, Tony, where are you, we need answers! ;D
I have no idea which B6's are stopping, all I know is that it's 4...
The 110 was all B9's today, well, it was this afternoon, no idea what the evening services were. 765 Had a merc on it too.
2613/4/6/31 were all out last Tuesday. 2616 was, as I mentioned, on the 5 on Friday night.
I haven't seen 2615 since 29 Nov. when it was on the 780.
Quote from: nx4737 on December 09, 2012, 09:08:18 PM
The 110 was all B9's today, well, it was this afternoon, no idea what the evening services were. 765 Had a merc on it too.
I'm not too familiar with Tamworth buses but I went on two B9's on the 110 today (4207 and 4205) - but I also remember seeing a single decker on the 110. Don't know what it was though.
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 09, 2012, 11:13:18 PM
Quote from: nx4737 on December 09, 2012, 09:08:18 PM
The 110 was all B9's today, well, it was this afternoon, no idea what the evening services were. 765 Had a merc on it too.
I'm not too familiar with Tamworth buses but I went on two B9's on the 110 today (4207 and 4205) - but I also remember seeing a single decker on the 110. Don't know what it was though.
I must've missed that one >:(
Quote from: nx4737 on December 09, 2012, 11:49:21 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 09, 2012, 11:13:18 PM
Quote from: nx4737 on December 09, 2012, 09:08:18 PM
The 110 was all B9's today, well, it was this afternoon, no idea what the evening services were. 765 Had a merc on it too.
I'm not too familiar with Tamworth buses but I went on two B9's on the 110 today (4207 and 4205) - but I also remember seeing a single decker on the 110. Don't know what it was though.
I must've missed that one >:(
I did spend most of the day waiting for something on the 110's route though so I probably saw all of the 110 buses go past.
I don't see why they feel the need to use B9's on the 110 though, there were maybe 10 people on the bus at peak? Surely a single decker could manage easily. Is it busier during the week?
You should have been on the 15.20 110 ex Birmingham today. Absolutely packed through Sutton!
This morning saw 2614 work the 10.00 112 Birmingham to Lichfield!
Citaro 3016 on the 112's today!! And wich decker has gone from Tamworth to Cannock??
Quote from: arrivaaston on December 17, 2012, 09:49:09 PM
Citaro 3016 on the 112's today!! And wich decker has gone from Tamworth to Cannock??
4202, it's back at Tamworth now though.
Some1 posred and said it was 4204 but I wasn't sure wich it was
Quote from: arrivaaston on December 17, 2012, 11:56:52 PM
Some1 posred and said it was 4204 but I wasn't sure wich it was
It's swapped on a regular basis, I think CK have had 02/04 and 07 now...
4207 and 4204 was at tamworth yesterday, blimey if cannock have 3 of their deckers, gona be a few single deckers on 110's isn't there
Quote from: arrivaaston on December 18, 2012, 04:13:03 PM
4207 and 4204 was at tamworth yesterday, blimey if cannock have 3 of their deckers, gona be a few single deckers on 110's isn't there
Sorry, my bad, I meant they've had 02/04 and 07, not have lol.
A couple of unusual workings noted today - 3018 on the 6 (first Merc seen on the route) and 3812 on the 8.
Gemini 4205 is on the 780 this afternoon!
Quote from: derningtona on December 20, 2012, 04:06:01 PM
Gemini 4205 is on the 780 this afternoon!
I head from one of the inspectors about that while I was waiting for a 110, 4204 also had to be taken out of service for some reason.
Merc on the 116 today as well, no idea which one, didn't realize what it was until I'd past it.
The 14.05 Tamworth to Birmingham 110 was worked by Merc 3007 today. This may be pretty regular now for all I know.
Quote from: derningtona on January 03, 2013, 05:27:05 PM
The 14.05 Tamworth to Birmingham 110 was worked by Merc 3007 today. This may be pretty regular now for all I know.
It seems to happen quite a bit, Cannock must have a Gemini again for the Amazon contract or something...
Not seen nothing of a gem at Cannock just the normal 2 dafs
Oh, a couple of our B9's must be f***** as usual then :D
Gemini 4202 on the 7
Merc 3004 on the 116
B6 2615 on the 765
West Bromwich allocated Enviro 200 was on the 110 this evening, that must rank as one of Tamworth's rarest workings!
Quote from: Tony on January 10, 2013, 09:30:14 PM
West Bromwich allocated Enviro 200 was on the 110 this evening, that must rank as one of Tamworth's rarest workings!
Most unsuitable too! :D
Quote from: nx4737 on January 11, 2013, 06:47:37 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 10, 2013, 09:30:14 PM
West Bromwich allocated Enviro 200 was on the 110 this evening, that must rank as one of Tamworth's rarest workings!
Most unsuitable too! :D
Coped quite admiralably with the Passengers in Bull Street, destination not programmed, so route number in windscreen
Bloody ell.... Hope it was runnin as empty as some of the deckers lol... What's this replaced at Tamworth then or which of Tamworths is off the road??
Quote from: arrivaaston on January 11, 2013, 10:58:39 PM
Bloody ell.... Hope it was runnin as empty as some of the deckers lol... What's this replaced at Tamworth then or which of Tamworths is off the road??
Probably a B9 off the road or on the 780...
Tamworth only 8 deckers for the 110, which are all required, so the minute one breaks down they have to find a single decker to use... IMO they could do with an ex London B7 or something to supplement what they have.
Actually, the 110 timetable needs 7 buses so there SHOULD be one spare. There must be a fair bit of unreliability as everything else possible has turned up on the route recently - down to a West Brom bus at Tamworth for servicing.
Quote from: derningtona on January 12, 2013, 08:53:35 AM
Actually, the 110 timetable needs 7 buses so there SHOULD be one spare. There must be a fair bit of unreliability as everything else possible has turned up on the route recently - down to a West Brom bus at Tamworth for servicing.
Ah, I thought it needed all 8... I can see why Arriva seem to go for VDL over Volvo now though.
There were a few interesting workings today:-
West Brom 2140 worked the 12.15 Nuneaton to Lichfield 765 with the route number on a piece of paper in the window and "sorry not in service" on the display. The driver kept shouting "Lichfield". Merc 3007 was on the 14.00 Lichfield to Birmingham 112 and 3810 left Tamworth on the 13.10 110!
Out of interest all 4 B6s were out - 2613 on the 6, 2614 on a 3, 2615 on the 780 and 2616 on the 2.
Quote from: derningtona on January 15, 2013, 03:59:13 PM
There were a few interesting workings today:-
West Brom 2140 worked the 12.15 Nuneaton to Lichfield 765 with the route number on a piece of paper in the window and "sorry not in service" on the display. The driver kept shouting "Lichfield". Merc 3007 was on the 14.00 Lichfield to Birmingham 112 and 3810 left Tamworth on the 13.10 110!
Out of interest all 4 B6s were out - 2613 on the 6, 2614 on a 3, 2615 on the 780 and 2616 on the 2.
3019 was on the 112 today also
Whats going on at Tamworth a bit of a mixed bag.
Quote from: Discodave on January 15, 2013, 05:33:19 PM
Whats going on at Tamworth a bit of a mixed bag.
Nearly as bad as isn't it Cannock mate...
Evening services on the 8 seem to have reverted to B6 operation just recently...
Quote from: nx4737 on January 17, 2013, 02:44:20 PM
Evening services on the 8 seem to have reverted to B6 operation just recently...
I would imagine that means the brick throwing chavs on Park Farm estate are up to their tricks again!
Quote from: andy on January 18, 2013, 08:31:59 PM
Quote from: nx4737 on January 17, 2013, 02:44:20 PM
Evening services on the 8 seem to have reverted to B6 operation just recently...
I would imagine that means the brick throwing chavs on Park Farm estate are up to their tricks again!
I wouldn't be at all surprised!
Still a the odd Merc on it but it seems that the majority of the evening 8 services are B6.
Quote from: nx4737 on January 19, 2013, 03:43:25 AM
Quote from: andy on January 18, 2013, 08:31:59 PM
Quote from: nx4737 on January 17, 2013, 02:44:20 PM
Evening services on the 8 seem to have reverted to B6 operation just recently...
I would imagine that means the brick throwing chavs on Park Farm estate are up to their tricks again!
I wouldn't be at all surprised!
When I was driving the 8's the little b******s used to hide behind the grass bank just as you go onto Park Farm from Wilnecote Lane, as it's covered in bushes to give them cover. You are then a sitting duck for about 300 yards of open road where you just used to be waiting for the bang. Police never paid any attention despite several reports being made.
Still a the odd Merc on it but it seems that the majority of the evening 8 services are B6.
2616 was on the 15.00 Tamworth to Birmingham 116 today.
Quote from: derningtona on January 22, 2013, 05:02:05 PM
2616 was on the 15.00 Tamworth to Birmingham 116 today.
Oops! ;D
Unknown Merc on the 6 yesterday (Saturday), saw it turning in to Corporation Street from the 110.
I've just passed West Brom 2148 working the 780 to Robert Peel Hospital.
Quote from: derningtona on January 28, 2013, 12:33:17 PM
I've just passed West Brom 2148 working the 780 to Robert Peel Hospital.
Saw that too, I think, didn't catch the fleet number! They're quite suitable for that route I think ;D
Another Citaro on the 110 this afternoon
There was a B6 on the 110 by 3pm too!
Quote from: nx4737 on January 29, 2013, 05:43:29 PM
There was a B6 on the 110 by 3pm too!
Is the 110 low emission exempt I did not think it was?
Quote from: Discodave on January 30, 2013, 11:13:16 AM
Quote from: nx4737 on January 29, 2013, 05:43:29 PM
There was a B6 on the 110 by 3pm too!
Is the 110 low emission exempt I did not think it was?
No, why would it be?
Merc 3004 was on the 10.15 765 Nuneaton to Lichfield today - arrived Tamworth c.25 mins. late.
What do people think of these new mercs then? I've only been on them once and there not as good as I thought they'd be and thought they'd have better seats to be honest
The raised up seat toward the back whats that all about? i liked sound they made tho propa beefy lol
Quote from: bob on January 30, 2013, 10:58:42 PM
The raised up seat toward the back whats that all about? i liked sound they made tho propa beefy lol
Yeah, shame it's only the sound that's beefy... they're either limited or gutless pieces of... yeah...
Quote from: derningtona on January 30, 2013, 08:39:02 PM
Merc 3004 was on the 10.15 765 Nuneaton to Lichfield today - arrived Tamworth c.25 mins. late.
Not surprised, I've used one on the 116 and was taken over by a B9!
B6 on the 110, Merc on the 112
West Brom 2146 was working the Tamworth route 2 this morning.
Quote from: bob on January 30, 2013, 10:58:42 PM
The raised up seat toward the back whats that all about? i liked sound they made tho propa beefy lol
if you mean the single seat higher than the rest,its something to do with the exhaust
Unusually for a weekday, 3801 is on the 4/5/7 this morning.
E200 2147 was out on the 5 last night, the capacity seemed just about right for that time of evening!
Quote from: nx4737 on March 01, 2013, 07:13:46 PM
E200 2147 was out on the 5 last night, the capacity seemed just about right for that time of evening!
I suppose these odd workings will finish when Hill Top closes.
They are going to be a little stuck without these hill top buses to borrow unless they want to use midlands darts LOL at least they are red (well some of them)
A couple of unusual workings this afternoon. 4204 on the 3 and 3018 on the 16.00 785 ex Lichfield.
I noticed a poster on one of the Scanias today advertising extra 110 journeys, it's increasing to every 15mins, with the service now starting from Corporation Street again... Now, Tamworth is already at bursting point, where on earth will they find the spare capacity for this?
Quote from: nx4737 on March 07, 2013, 04:39:16 PM
I noticed a poster on one of the Scanias today advertising extra 110 journeys, it's increasing to every 15mins, with the service now starting from Corporation Street again... Now, Tamworth is already at bursting point, where on earth will they find the spare capacity for this?
Cut the running time is the usual for Arriva or not pinch the 61 plates from Cannock they do not deserve them.
Quote from: Discodave on March 08, 2013, 01:15:17 PM
Quote from: nx4737 on March 07, 2013, 04:39:16 PM
I noticed a poster on one of the Scanias today advertising extra 110 journeys, it's increasing to every 15mins, with the service now starting from Corporation Street again... Now, Tamworth is already at bursting point, where on earth will they find the spare capacity for this?
Cut the running time is the usual for Arriva or not pinch the 61 plates from Cannock they do not deserve them.
What?
Quote from: nx4737 on March 07, 2013, 04:39:16 PM
I noticed a poster on one of the Scanias today advertising extra 110 journeys, it's increasing to every 15mins, with the service now starting from Corporation Street again... Now, Tamworth is already at bursting point, where on earth will they find the spare capacity for this?
Will more double deckers be needed , or will OmniLink's be used? Usually one on the 110 most days.
If its going to be every 15 mins surely it wont need deckers at all?? Ive never seen a decker more than half full at the 20 min frequency
Quote from: bob on March 08, 2013, 08:40:35 PM
If its going to be every 15 mins surely it wont need deckers at all?? Ive never seen a decker more than half full at the 20 min frequency
Peak times they're very much full!
They should bring back an express fast link between brum/tamworth maybe just 2/3 peak journeys a day
Quote from: bob on March 09, 2013, 09:00:01 AM
They should bring back an express fast link between brum/tamworth maybe just 2/3 peak journeys a day
Because 3 110's and a 116 an hour isn't enough?
There used to be less 110's previously than there are now and a couple of faster services. The 110 takes quite a long time from tamworth to bham
Don't forget it's competing with the train that only takes 15 minutes and is only a couple of quid more!
I will start off with Arriva Midlands putting 2160 LJ51DCO (Pointer Dart) on Hill Top route 213 vice E200
Arriva Midlands in Telford - 1905 (a Mercedes-Benz Vario) on route 55.
Quote from: trainbasher on March 16, 2013, 09:50:35 PM
I will start off with Arriva Midlands putting 2160 LJ51DCO (Pointer Dart) on Hill Top route 213 vice E200
I thought I saw a thread on here saying the e200's were going to thurmaston during March .
Quote from: arrivadays on March 17, 2013, 06:01:55 AM
Arriva Midlands in Telford - 1905 (a Mercedes-Benz Vario) on route 55.
Any idea what that's usually used on?
Quote from: nx4737 on March 17, 2013, 05:13:16 PM
Quote from: arrivadays on March 17, 2013, 06:01:55 AM
Arriva Midlands in Telford - 1905 (a Mercedes-Benz Vario) on route 55.
Any idea what that's usually used on?
Normally in Wolverhampton, on the 584/6. When in Telford, I believe it's normally used on the 23 & 24.
Unexpectedly, 2146 was on the Tamworth 3 this morning!
Hill Top E200 on the 8 last night, first time I've seen that!
3812 on the 110 this evening
Quote from: nitromatt1 on April 03, 2013, 10:42:46 PM
3812 on the 110 this evening
That reminds me, there was a Merc on the last 110 off Birmingham on Sat night.
SN53 ESG, today working Telford route 65/66.
Explains y I've not seen them in Cannock, they a permanent transfer or borrowed?
Hope theym permanent crap things lol
Quote from: bob on April 05, 2013, 05:19:12 PM
Hope theym permanent crap things lol
;) Thanks bob, but how bad are they - I mean our MPDs are quite bad, but I'm guessing SN53 ESG is on a different scale. BTW, have you not seen its sister, either - maybe, the way you're saying it, we've got both! >:(
Not the best they're unrefurbed. U havent got sn53 eso its cannock sibling tho lol that was rattlin away on pye greens eearlier this morning haha
Quote from: bob on April 06, 2013, 09:42:06 AM
Not the best they're unrefurbed. U havent got sn53 eso its cannock sibling tho lol that was rattlin away on pye greens eearlier this morning haha
Well, makes a change from d-deckers on Pye Greens, then. :P
Lol it was nice to see them in cannock pity they couldnt of run em on the stafford route
Bad news for both of us bob, 4650/4652 back to Wardle, ESG/O returned to cannock as heas 3603 >:(
B9 on the 780.
2330 and 2351 on the 1 Huntington - Walsall today
Im surprised so many of the P & R reg SLF Pointer Darts have been withdrawn, esp the refurbed R reg, internally they were quite well kept and dont rattle half as much or sound anywhere near as bad as the MPDs which are only a couple of years newer
Don't understand why 2329 ay still used when that hadn't long been refurbed and 2335 got scrapped and that was refurbed in/out
Quote from: arrivaaston on April 06, 2013, 11:42:01 AM
Bad news for both of us bob, 4650/4652 back to Wardle, ESG/O returned to cannock as heas 3603 >:(
Mwahahahahaha!!! ;D
Enviro200 on the 82 - thought it was just MPDs, or do these sneak on as well?
Quote from: nitromatt1 on April 07, 2013, 09:30:56 PM
Enviro200 on the 82 - thought it was just MPDs, or do these sneak on as well?
Still happens as Some E200 are at Wednesfield.
is the PVR of the 82 Arriva 2 buses
Quote from: NathanJC on April 07, 2013, 09:39:54 PM
is the PVR of the 82 Arriva 2 buses
It's more like 3 or 4 as it interworks with the 229 I think
Quote from: nitromatt1 on April 07, 2013, 09:46:41 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on April 07, 2013, 09:39:54 PM
is the PVR of the 82 Arriva 2 buses
It's more like 3 or 4 as it interworks with the 229 I think
I Didnt know that, I thought they just ran alone no interworks.
Do any NXWM sunday Dudley routes interwork
Quote from: NathanJC on April 07, 2013, 09:52:02 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on April 07, 2013, 09:46:41 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on April 07, 2013, 09:39:54 PM
is the PVR of the 82 Arriva 2 buses
It's more like 3 or 4 as it interworks with the 229 I think
I Didnt know that, I thought they just ran alone no interworks.
Do any NXWM sunday Dudley routes interwork
At PE, just the usuals (243/244 and 140/241) except the 289 runs with Mercs on its own as the 53 doesn't run.
Many WN routes interwork on Sundays, such as 3/6 and 32/33/79, think there is also the 2/4 interworking? Trident 4609 will be able to answer better than me.
I don't think any of my local routes interwork, I know the 5 and the 40 interwork of an evening. An the 935A an X51 interwork in Birmingham.
I've also noticed that the journey for the X56 is off the 20/21 in Oldbury
In Wolverhampton on a sunday the interworking routes are:
3/6
5/25/27
11/32/33 (First few journeys on the 11 from underhill go onto 32/33)
32/33/79
11/32/33(Possibly these interwork evenings as 32/33 get B7RLE's)
255/255E
Quote from: Trident 4609 on April 07, 2013, 10:28:14 PM
In Wolverhampton on a sunday the interworking routes are:
3/6
5/25/27
11/32/33 (First few journeys on the 11 from underhill go onto 32/33)
32/33/79
11/32/33(Possibly these interwork evenings as 32/33 get B7RLE's)
255/255E
Don't the 2 and 4 interwork then?
Arriva unusual workings or NX interworkings?
Quote from: andy on April 07, 2013, 10:55:59 PM
Arriva unusual workings or NX interworkings?
Think we started this conversation in the wrong thread sorry!
Quote from: Trident 4609 on April 07, 2013, 11:08:50 PM
Quote from: andy on April 07, 2013, 10:55:59 PM
Arriva unusual workings or NX interworkings?
Think we started this conversation in the wrong thread sorry!
It's not a conversation just the odd question.....
Tamworth Merc 3004 was on the 12.33 ex Birmingham today. 2615 is working the normally branded Tamworth 6.
What happened to this being a Tamworth depot thread? :')
I think the WB E200 has left Tamworth now, as I haven't seen it for about a week...
Yes has been reported elsewhere 2146 now at Wigston.
The Merc on the 110 seems to be almost constant at the moment, with a B9 decker on the 780, so one must have engine issues again...
Didn't quite know where to slot this one in but there was a Wardle's Transport van sat outside Wednesbury Bus Station the other day. Not entirely sure what it was up to.
Quote from: JackC on April 21, 2013, 11:11:03 PM
Didn't quite know where to slot this one in but there was a Wardle's Transport van sat outside Wednesbury Bus Station the other day. Not entirely sure what it was up to.
possibly 1351 ex Wardle mini allocated to Wednesfield.
Quote from: JackC on April 21, 2013, 11:11:03 PM
Didn't quite know where to slot this one in but there was a Wardle's Transport van sat outside Wednesbury Bus Station the other day. Not entirely sure what it was up to.
A couple of weeks ago I saw one in Bilston bus station picking up and dropping off Arriva/Midland drivers.
1905 on the 142 this evening vice Versa
2140 on the 57 with some new branding I have not seen before Only caught a glance sorry not much info :(
Its branded for the 9
Quote from: 4006 on April 25, 2013, 04:44:53 PM
2140 on the 57 with some new branding I have not seen before Only caught a glance sorry not much info :(
2141 also branded for the 9 (Lodge Farm-Walsall) on the 63/4 alongside a unbranded E200
Cheers & Yeah I thought so waited ages to get a photo...didn't turn up >:( >:( >:(
Prob going back to garage or on another route...very dissapointed!!!
One of the branded E200's for the 9 is way out of its Walsall patch all the way down here on the 217 route Merry Hill to Halesowen today!
Quote from: s94 on April 26, 2013, 12:10:54 PM
One of the branded E200's for the 9 is way out of its Walsall patch all the way down here on the 217 route Merry Hill to Halesowen today!
that didn't take long lol
Quote from: dgss1 on April 26, 2013, 06:13:13 PM
Quote from: s94 on April 26, 2013, 12:10:54 PM
One of the branded E200's for the 9 is way out of its Walsall patch all the way down here on the 217 route Merry Hill to Halesowen today!
that didn't take long lol
Yesterday 9 branded 2141 E200 was on the 63/64 routes in wolverhampton and 2140 (Also 9 branded) reported on here as on the 57 in wolverhampton so now thats 3 routes now.
All 3 were in merry hill
2140/2141/2142 are the vehicles
Quote from: trainbasher on April 26, 2013, 10:13:29 PM
All 3 were in merry hill
2140/2141/2142 are the vehicles
I guess 2143 will be left unbranded as the spare
Yes it is i saw 2143 i think (It was an unbranded E200) on the 63/4 in wolverhampton
9-branded 2141 on the 223 today
Quote from: nitromatt1 on April 27, 2013, 10:23:40 PM
9-branded 2141 on the 223 today
Just about to post that :) It was pulling out of a side street in sedgley when we saw it.
Has 2141 actully done the 9 yet. It has done the 217,63/4,223
Quote from: Trident 4609 on April 27, 2013, 10:45:28 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on April 27, 2013, 10:23:40 PM
9-branded 2141 on the 223 today
Just about to post that :) It was pulling out of a side street in sedgley when we saw it.
Has 2141 actully done the 9 yet. It has done the 217,63/4,223
By the way does the 223 interwork with the 82? Because this evening in Dudley I saw a 9-branded E200 on the 82 but couldn't see which one it was
Quote from: Trident 4609 on April 27, 2013, 10:45:28 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on April 27, 2013, 10:23:40 PM
9-branded 2141 on the 223 today
Just about to post that :) It was pulling out of a side street in sedgley when we saw it.
Has 2141 actully done the 9 yet. It has done the 217,63/4,223
They must not be going onto the 9 until Monday when the frequency is upgraded to the 20 minutes as stated on the branding. Despite them been branded, it appears they are been used as normal allocated to any routes until Monday, when I hope they are used on the 9.
Today,
2140 was on the 545
2141 was on the 82/229
2142 was on the 82/229
What was the point in giving these E200s 9-branding...
Quote from: nitromatt1 on April 28, 2013, 09:42:55 PM
Today,
2140 was on the 545
2141 was on the 82/229
2142 was on the 82/229
What was the point in giving these E200s 9-branding...
It looks like the E200s are been used normally as they would be without the branding until tomorrow when the increased frequency starts.
Quote from: John on April 28, 2013, 09:45:05 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on April 28, 2013, 09:42:55 PM
Today,
2140 was on the 545
2141 was on the 82/229
2142 was on the 82/229
What was the point in giving these E200s 9-branding...
It looks like the E200s are been used normally as they would be without the branding until tomorrow when the increased frequency starts.
Ah I see! That makes sense. I will keep a look out for them over the next week.
Quote from: nitromatt1 on April 28, 2013, 09:46:46 PM
Quote from: John on April 28, 2013, 09:45:05 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on April 28, 2013, 09:42:55 PM
Today,
2140 was on the 545
2141 was on the 82/229
2142 was on the 82/229
What was the point in giving these E200s 9-branding...
It looks like the E200s are been used normally as they would be without the branding until tomorrow when the increased frequency starts.
Ah I see! That makes sense. I will keep a look out for them over the next week.
Thats only my thoughts. I hope they are on the 9 tomorrow as I need to go into Walsall sometime, and will look out for them!!
Wonder whats gonna be on the 19
...
Quote from: nitromatt1 on April 28, 2013, 09:42:55 PM
Today,
2140 was on the 545
2141 was on the 82/229
2142 was on the 82/229
What was the point in giving these E200s 9-branding...
one was on the 208 today
Quote from: bob on April 28, 2013, 09:59:23 PM
Wonder whats gonna be on the 19
...
Well today on the sunday service which terminates at Bloxwich (Should have displayed a 19E really) it was a Arriva MPD.
Just to note the 8A,335 and 530 are all operated from Wednesfield Garage now and so is the Sunday 142 which Matt said interworks with the 257. The 335/8A had Wednesfield MPD's today with the 530 having a midland optare solo!
Quote from: Trident 4609 on April 28, 2013, 10:20:47 PM
Quote from: bob on April 28, 2013, 09:59:23 PM
Wonder whats gonna be on the 19
...
Well today on the sunday service which terminates at Bloxwich (Should have displayed a 19E really) it was a Arriva MPD.
Just to note the 8A,335 and 530 are all operated from Wednesfield Garage now and so is the Sunday 142 which Matt said interworks with the 257. The 335/8A had Wednesfield MPD's today with the 530 having a midland optare solo!
Are Sunday 19's operated by Wednesfield too?
It's a shame Centro can't fiddle with the contracts, so the Wolves 28E & Walsall 19 can be operated as one route on Sunday daytimes? (The section between New Invention & Bloxwich is the stumbling block along with the numbering!)
Yes looks all the sunday services operated by cannock are now operated by wednesfield
2616 is back on its old routes, Tamworth 4/5/7, this morning.
Quote from: bob on April 28, 2013, 09:59:23 PM
Wonder whats gonna be on the 19
...
Yesturday 4778 was on it!
Quote from: nitromatt1 on April 28, 2013, 09:42:55 PM
Today,
2140 was on the 545
2141 was on the 82/229
2142 was on the 82/229
What was the point in giving these E200s 9-branding...
Better late than never but 2140 on 545
http://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/8695511280/in/photostream/
E200-20
Quote from: nitromatt1 on April 28, 2013, 09:42:55 PM
Today,
2140 was on the 545
2141 was on the 82/229
2142 was on the 82/229
What was the point in giving these E200s 9-branding...
It's like the Versas on the 481. They're branded for it, but they're never actually on that route.
Yes the 481 branded versas end up here in wolverhampton on the 891/2
Routes 213/4/7 which normally see Arriva vehicles were all operated by Midland livery vehicles today.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on April 30, 2013, 05:14:48 PM
Yes the 481 branded versas end up here in wolverhampton on the 891/2
No wonder they keep jacking up the prices - waste money on route branding for buses that are meant to be on a service that's always late, and instead are put on different routes. >:(
Merc on the 110 this afternoon
Quote from: nitromatt1 on May 04, 2013, 11:57:12 PM
Merc on the 110 this afternoon
That happens quite a lot now, as well on the 116 as well.
There was an ex Midland Solo operating the 257 this morning but can't remember the fleet number
Quote from: Winston on May 06, 2013, 05:47:04 PM
There was an ex Midland Solo operating the 257 this morning but can't remember the fleet number
X939NUB was on it
Quote from: trainbasher on May 06, 2013, 07:02:04 PM
Quote from: Winston on May 06, 2013, 05:47:04 PM
There was an ex Midland Solo operating the 257 this morning but can't remember the fleet number
X939NUB was on it
Ta, that's the one
Omnilink on the 110
At cannock no such thing as an unusual working anymore......any1 agree?
Ohh I dunno you might find a branded bus on the right route
Sk52mlo 2273 on 890 today
& a cadet on the other direction of the route
considering this is meant to be bridgnorths flagship route and only commercial route operated (I think) its shocking that a mini pointer can appear on by far the depots busiest route. The route is meant to have optare versas!! Driver keep complaining that the buses aren't looked after mechanically at telford. I would agree couple of weeks ago they have 4 buses off the road which is showing considering the depot has only around 12 buses. that 25% of there fleet which in comparison with nxwm wolves that's like saying they have 50 buses off the road. I personally miss it being a shrewsbury outstation much better quality!
Quote from: bob on May 07, 2013, 10:53:49 PM
Ohh I dunno you might find a branded bus on the right route
You have your own Cannock thread, yet still fill this one with this 'Arriva Cannock are crap' nonsense?
Oh there was a Midland Dart broken down in Lichfield bus station today.
Was replying to a question. And surprise surprise another broken down dart...
And incidentally it isnt nonsense im stating facts about numbers of breakdowns and awful conditions of many of the buses what are you arriva's no1 kiss a## ?
Well, no, I'm not, I'm just not sure how accurate your 'facts' are.
Every breakdown ive listed has happened & the interiors of the buses ive mentioned are terrible. Facts
Quote from: bob on May 08, 2013, 01:12:10 PM
Every breakdown ive listed has happened & the interiors of the buses ive mentioned are terrible. Facts
Opinion.
How is it an opinion if the events mentioned actually happened? ?? With regard to the breakdowns that is. Might take some pics of the sb120/dart etc interiors. .... and post them just to prove a point.
Quote from: bob on May 08, 2013, 05:21:08 PM
How is it an opinion if the events mentioned actually happened? ?? With regard to the breakdowns that is. Might take some pics of the sb120/dart etc interiors. .... and post them just to prove a point.
I used a Cannock ALX300 on Saturday, while I admit it wasn't the most modern of buses, there certainly wasn't anything wrong with it.
May have been one of the two refurbished ones, at least three of them sound knackered engine wise v605/6 are prob the worst. I have said before that these are probably Cannocks better buses.
Quote from: bob on May 08, 2013, 06:30:17 PM
May have been one of the two refurbished ones, at least three of them sound knackered engine wise v605/6 are prob the worst. I have said before that these are probably Cannocks better buses.
Cannock's best buses in my opinon are the centro's
Quote from: bob on May 08, 2013, 05:21:08 PM
How is it an opinion if the events mentioned actually happened? ?? With regard to the breakdowns that is. Might take some pics of the sb120/dart etc interiors. .... and post them just to prove a point.
The breakdowns are facts, but the adjectives you use to describe the interiors are those that state an opinion - not a fact. Trust me, I know the English language.
Quote from: nx4737 on May 08, 2013, 06:16:45 PM
Quote from: bob on May 08, 2013, 05:21:08 PM
How is it an opinion if the events mentioned actually happened? ?? With regard to the breakdowns that is. Might take some pics of the sb120/dart etc interiors. .... and post them just to prove a point.
I used a Cannock ALX300 on Saturday, while I admit it wasn't the most modern of buses, there certainly wasn't anything wrong with it.
Oh, I couldn't agree with you more! The N-reg Scanias are perfect in condition.
Quote from: bob on May 08, 2013, 01:12:10 PM
Every breakdown ive listed has happened & the interiors of the buses ive mentioned are terrible. Facts
I refer you to my reply given here
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=1661.msg38349#msg38349 (http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=1661.msg38349#msg38349)
Quote from: trainbasher on May 08, 2013, 08:59:53 PM
Quote from: bob on May 08, 2013, 01:12:10 PM
Every breakdown ive listed has happened & the interiors of the buses ive mentioned are terrible. Facts
I refer you to my reply given here
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=1661.msg38349#msg38349 (http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=1661.msg38349#msg38349)
Man, even I couldn't give that sort of explanation. But, when I read the simple explanation, I couldn't agree with you more. Stuff and nonsense about a bus company that 'bob' doesn't even have to use.
I'm guessing bob that you're the same person that, on the Arriva Midlands Facebook page, tells them to stop using the wrong buses on the 60 and 825. I mean, he moans as much as you! You can see for yourself, you'll just need to scroll down a bit.
https://www.facebook.com/arrivamidlandswest
Its my m8 andy that complains about 60/825 and I'm the 1 that complains about the branded buses on the wrong route
Quote from: arrivaaston on May 08, 2013, 09:50:10 PM
Its my m8 andy that complains about 60/825 and I'm the 1 that complains about the branded buses on the wrong route
Ahhh, I see, well as it's 2 separate people from bob then I'll say the pair of you put together don't moan as much as bob. Besides, I haven't seen any of your complaints...
I normaly complain about crap darts on 23 lol or compliment how well they do and I don't think Bob moans I think its just his way of givin an opoinion
Cannock has a very poor fleet in poor condition and breakdowns happen more often than any nx garage or other arriva midlands garage, thats my opinion and moreover if you broke it down into statistics, id put money on it being fact. End of.....
Quote from: bob on May 08, 2013, 10:34:12 PM
Cannock has a very poor fleet in poor condition and breakdowns happen more often than any nx garage or other arriva midlands garage, thats my opinion and moreover if you broke it down into statistics, id put money on it being fact. End of.....
I feel that, although your statement may seem possible, I have yet to see any hard facts, meaningful data or otherwise as to draw a conclusion upon which is broadly agreeing with the forth of the epithets you such demonstrated insofar as to unburden the stretch of the English language you desire.
Therefore, until such proof is demonstrated, your statements are deficient as to provide significant cause for the belief of alternate viewpoints in which the views are broadly similar to your present interlocour.
Quote from: bob on May 08, 2013, 10:34:12 PM
Cannock has a very poor fleet in poor condition and breakdowns happen more often than any nx garage or other arriva midlands garage, thats my opinion and moreover if you broke it down into statistics, id put money on it being fact. End of.....
Like I've already said - if you even listened - that, yes, the breakdowns can be put into data, and therefore facts. However, you can't show a pie chart of how bad a bus' interior is. So, therefore, it's not the end of... Just live with the argument - you won't win!
No but you could provide a large no of photos.....
Bob, I feel your comments are to be classed as CGSM.
Meanwhile back to unusual workingd today there is a decker working the 7's Lichfield to Burton
Quote from: bob on May 09, 2013, 07:46:23 AM
No but you could provide a large no of photos.....
Yes, but it's still not facts - some people think differently, thinking that the "bad" interiors are "comfy". I use quotation marks because that's what THEY think, not my opinion. So, therefore, I should state again, that you are stating opinions, using those types of adjectives that describe an opinion, not a fact.
It would be a stretch for anyone to refer to a filthy threadbare interior as 'comfy' surely?
Quote from: bob on May 09, 2013, 05:46:26 PM
It would be a stretch for anyone to refer to a filthy threadbare interior as 'comfy' surely?
You don't get the point, do you? I'm trying to state that saying a "terrible"/"threadbare" interior is NOT A FACT! You don't go to a business meeting and say to your audience (with a laptop) "Right, if you look at this pie chart, we find that 86% of me THINKS that the bus I went on this morning had a 'terrible' interior, while the remaining 12% thinks that I'm an absolute philistine!"
Quote from: nx4737 on May 08, 2013, 05:04:55 AM
Quote from: bob on May 07, 2013, 10:53:49 PM
Ohh I dunno you might find a branded bus on the right route
You have your own Cannock thread, yet still fill this one with this 'Arriva Cannock are crap' nonsense?
This is the sort of person I need to side up with me to defeat this bull-filled monster!
Whatever whatever. .....
Quote from: bob on May 09, 2013, 07:01:04 PM
Whatever whatever. .....
Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses
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Quote from: bob on May 09, 2013, 07:01:04 PM
Whatever whatever. .....
Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses
Obviously ex Arriva employee...
Poor Bob, whatever his beef I can say better things of Ex's from Hell than he can say of Arriva. Honestly that Cow Emma I was with a few years back who took my house, car and even went with my new girlfriend behind my back :o... it's ok she wasn't that bad at least not a clapped out Arriva MPD or a threadbare B10...you know I even miss my Emma in a funny sort of way 8)
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Quote from: trainbasher on May 09, 2013, 08:06:52 PM
Quote from: bob on May 09, 2013, 07:01:04 PM
Whatever whatever. .....
Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses
Obviously ex Arriva employee...
Poor Bob, whatever his beef I can say better things of Ex's from Hell than he can say of Arriva. Honestly that Cow Emma I was with a few years back who took my house, car and even went with my new girlfriend behind my back :o... it's ok she wasn't that bad at least not a clapped out Arriva MPD or a threadbare B10...you know I even miss my Emma in a funny sort of way 8)
Sounds like some of my past relationships! ;D
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Quote from: nx4737 on May 08, 2013, 05:04:55 AM
Quote from: bob on May 07, 2013, 10:53:49 PM
Ohh I dunno you might find a branded bus on the right route
You have your own Cannock thread, yet still fill this one with this 'Arriva Cannock are crap' nonsense?
This is the sort of person I need to side up with me to defeat this bull-filled monster!
We're fighting a loosing battle.
Anyway, back on topic for a few seconds, a Dart has turned up at Tamworth and has been seen on the 2/3/4 local routes.
an enviro 200 with route 9 branding on the 21 (Bearwood - Oldbury)
Quote from: OH25 on May 10, 2013, 10:44:14 PM
an enviro 200 with route 9 branding on the 21 (Bearwood - Oldbury)
There was one on a Wolverhampton route yesterday too
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an enviro 200 with route 9 branding on the 21 (Bearwood - Oldbury)
Just Managed to Snap It!!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/8727274497/in/photostream
Does Wednesfield now operate the 8a in Walsall now?
Just saw a 9 vehicle on it in Bloxwich.
Quote from: Westy on May 11, 2013, 08:18:19 PM
Does Wednesfield now operate the 8a in Walsall now?
Just saw a 9 vehicle on it in Bloxwich.
Yes so does the 335/336 and 530 aswell
Midland-livery Optare Solo 2560 (KV51 KZG) was on the 217 today
Quote from: nitromatt1 on May 12, 2013, 12:41:49 AM
Midland-livery Optare Solo 2560 (KV51 KZG) was on the 217 today
With Wednesfield operating the routes now, You can get any bus on any route
I say 1 thing, drivers I speak to at cannock have said they've got 1 of the worse fleets out the whole of Arriva Midlands and yes the route 1 buses need re branding
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Midland-livery Optare Solo 2560 (KV51 KZG) was on the 217 today
With Wednesfield operating the routes now, You can get any bus on any route
The 217 is usually Enviro200s with MPDs sometimes, a Solo is unusual.
does Arriva run the 82 (Dudley - Wolverhampton) ?
if so .. I saw a Midland branded Optare on the 82 yesterday :o
Yes they do and you get red Midland buses anywhere, they are all red buses on 334
Quote from: arrivaaston on May 13, 2013, 08:44:41 AM
Yes they do and you get red Midland buses anywhere, they are all red buses on 334
I saw an Arriva 334 Mpd broken down in Darlaston Friday teatime.
Quote from: OH25 on May 13, 2013, 06:18:59 AM
does Arriva run the 82 (Dudley - Wolverhampton) ?
if so .. I saw a Midland branded Optare on the 82 yesterday :o
Yes they do and its usually Arriva or Midland livered MPD's so an Excel is unusual
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does Arriva run the 82 (Dudley - Wolverhampton) ?
if so .. I saw a Midland branded Optare on the 82 yesterday :o
Yes they do and its usually Arriva or Midland livered MPD's so an Excel is unusual
With Enviro200s sometimes too. And I think he meant a Solo
(https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7292%2F8735923890_fe624ef4d7.jpg&hash=313ae2d8c963502e20d0907349ffe14ef1a5bec1) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adampriseman/8735923890/)
Arriva Midlands North 2347 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adampriseman/8735923890/) by NX4737 (http://www.flickr.com/people/adampriseman/), on Flickr
2347 Still on loan to Tamwroth...
Quote from: OH25 on May 13, 2013, 06:18:59 AM
does Arriva run the 82 (Dudley - Wolverhampton) ?
if so .. I saw a Midland branded Optare on the 82 yesterday :o
usally the unbranded enviro
Quote from: nx4737 on May 13, 2013, 05:36:12 PM
(https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm8.staticflickr.com%2F7292%2F8735923890_fe624ef4d7.jpg&hash=313ae2d8c963502e20d0907349ffe14ef1a5bec1) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adampriseman/8735923890/)
Arriva Midlands North 2347 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adampriseman/8735923890/) by NX4737 (http://www.flickr.com/people/adampriseman/), on Flickr
2347 Still on loan to Tamwroth...
That will make Bob happy
Yep one less crap bus at cannock
Give it time m8 it'll be back although looking on tonys fleet list a couple of S/YOG darts have been scrapped, I ay keen on darts myself but I prefer these to mpd's especially 1's with urban90 seats and my fav dart is the marshall bodied dart
It could be on its way to Wednesfield, it's had a cash box fitted
2347 was on the 2 this afternoon and three of the eight deckers were being worked on in the depot.
4202 is out today on Tamworth local 4-5-7.
Derby based 4211 on the 7 again today believe its on long term loan from Derby
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Derby based 4211 on the 7 again today believe its on long term loan from Derby
Spot on, Derby have had Burtons B7's in exchange, as they have gear box issues.
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4202 is out today on Tamworth local 4-5-7.
Saw that, one of the Mercs was pulled for an MOT I believe.
Noticed 2134 V427DGT mpd working the 9's from Burton yesterday, is this unusual or do darts often turn up on the 9/9A
one of the enviro200's on the 334 today it was the unbranded one
Quote from: dannygill on May 16, 2013, 10:25:48 PM
one of the enviro200's on the 334 today it was the unbranded one
2143
Quote from: arrivaaston on May 13, 2013, 08:44:41 AM
Yes they do and you get red Midland buses anywhere, they are all red buses on 334
I have noticed that you never get a red Midland bus on the 604, they are always 2 of the Arriva Livered ex-London darts.
4208 on Burton's 7
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8748249994/
The 531 (Rocket Pool-New Cross Hospital) is another route that gets mainly Arriva Livered MPD's
Deckers seem to (a regular face on the 7 now, think 1's been on everyday this week alongside an lf02 sb120 or mpd
Quote from: arrivaaston on May 17, 2013, 06:52:13 PM
Deckers seem to (a regular face on the 7 now, think 1's been on everyday this week alongside an lf02 sb120 or mpd
The 15:10 off Lichfield needs a decker because it picks up plenty of school kids...
It was full and standing on both decks on Tuesday, wasn't as busy today though.
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Deckers seem to (a regular face on the 7 now, think 1's been on everyday this week alongside an lf02 sb120 or mpd
The 15:10 off Lichfield needs a decker because it picks up plenty of school kids...
It was full and standing on both decks on Tuesday, wasn't as busy today though.
I was reading while I was away this week, of a Gemini appearing on the 7, so took a risk on heading to Lichfield to see if there was one on there today. The first one I saw at 2.25 was 2238, then 4208 came on the 3.10 to my relief!
A route 9 branded E200 (Can't remember the fleetnumber) was on the 82 today
Quote from: Trident 4609 on May 19, 2013, 10:50:44 PM
A route 9 branded E200 (Can't remember the fleetnumber) was on the 82 today
2141 ;)
2384 is on the number 2 cannock to walsall today
Also a w/snr dart from stafford was lurking in cannock this morning and is the y/tgm a borrowed bus or permananent transfer
Quote from: arrivaaston on May 20, 2013, 03:23:28 PM
Also a w/snr dart from stafford was lurking in cannock this morning and is the y/tgm a borrowed bus or permananent transfer
It may be borrowed I dont think it will be permanent but you never know with arriva lol
Well l8ley seems to be a collection of darts moving to cannock, 2264/2285/2284/2254
Prob cos of the extra vehicles needed for extra workins
Pity some of those ex london refurbed sb120s dont come over from Burton, ideal for the 31/2/3
4798 heading towards Bloxwich in New Invention 8.00 am this morning = out of service. Just about the time I usually see one of the other Deckers most mornings on the way to start their first turn on the 19.
Anyone know if 4798 is now operating out of Wednesfield?
4798 is in service, 4801 is next.
Quote from: 888DUK on May 20, 2013, 08:43:40 PM
4798 heading towards Bloxwich in New Invention 8.00 am this morning = out of service. Just about the time I usually see one of the other Deckers most mornings on the way to start their first turn on the 19.
Anyone know if 4798 is now operating out of Wednesfield?
Yes it was on the 19 on Saturday.
Quote from: 888DUK on May 20, 2013, 08:43:40 PM
4798 heading towards Bloxwich in New Invention 8.00 am this morning = out of service. Just about the time I usually see one of the other Deckers most mornings on the way to start their first turn on the 19.
Anyone know if 4798 is now operating out of Wednesfield?
Yes it has been operating the 19 since last week
Thanks Guys
Enviro 200 on the 29 in Lichfield today.
I'm pretty certain I just saw a 9 branded E200 on the 21 (Oldbury - Bearwood)
All 9-branded Enviros will have been off-route today due to warranty work carried out this morning.
Anybody know whats on the 76 today?
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on May 27, 2013, 12:07:58 PM
Anybody know whats on the 76 today?
If you mean Wolverhampton-Stafford i saw a MPD (think it was 2276). And just to add it was packed being a 2 hourly sunday service on bank holiday although the buses were as busy as a ormal monday.
Cannock needs some more larger capacity buses to be fair, as well as not being big enough darts are crap for a longer route like the 76! Noisy and uncomfortable
4801 is now based at Wednesfield
Quote from: arrivaaston on May 28, 2013, 03:50:04 PM
4801 is now based at Wednesfield
Its been on the 19 for well over a week so old news
Maybe not unusual, but I noticed a Tamworth B9 on a 116 working this morning - the 0824 arrival in Birmingham, which returns to Tamworth as a 110.
I haven't seen a double decker on the 116 for a long time. Of course, until a few weeks ago most if not all journeys n the 116 interworked with the 112, which had to be single deck.
Does anyone know if the 0710 116 from Tamworth (0824 in Birmingham), at least, is scheduled to be double deck?
Quote from: Justin Tyme on May 28, 2013, 05:46:52 PM
Maybe not unusual, but I noticed a Tamworth B9 on a 116 working this morning - the 0824 arrival in Birmingham, which returns to Tamworth as a 110.
I haven't seen a double decker on the 116 for a long time. Of course, until a few weeks ago most if not all journeys n the 116 interworked with the 112, which had to be single deck.
Does anyone know if the 0710 116 from Tamworth (0824 in Birmingham), at least, is scheduled to be double deck?
Deckers on the 116 used to be commonplace until about 2011...
The 0824 into Birmingham is the only interworking so far as I know. The route needs 9 buses and there are 8 deckers so there's a good chance if availability is a bit better than recently!
2156 was on the 217 today - usually Enviro200s from what I've seen
Is there sucj thing as unusual workings now lol, 2614 today on 765
Quote from: arrivaaston on June 04, 2013, 11:39:13 PM
Is there sucj thing as unusual workings now lol, 2614 today on 765
It is unusual to get the right buses on the right route ;)
And 3803 was on the 780 yesterday.
3491 Scania on 55 today.
4798 on an ultra rare working of route 64 (Wolverhampton-Wakley Hill, Penn)
Not rare, the last 64 weekdays is on a 19 board.
Incidentally, 4797 is now here.
Quote from: a220 on June 06, 2013, 09:13:58 PM
Not rare, the last 64 weekdays is on a 19 board.
Incidentally, 4797 is now here.
I wasn't aware thanks. Very interesting indeed!
I dont understand why the 19 is operated with double decker buses at all?
Mega rare spot today folks 9 branded 2141 actually on the 9 at Darlo
I had not had a drink or under any substance influence either ;D ;D
Unlike half of Darlaston/Moxley then lol
Enviro200 on the 142 this evening, couldn't see fleetnumber as it was dark but don't think it had 9 branding
Quote from: bob on June 07, 2013, 06:44:13 PM
Unlike half of Darlaston/Moxley then lol
Please Bob be reasonable and show some respect..Many entries of my Flickr set 'Chavy Britain' are from the actions of such people...A culture we can all learn from and just because 99% of them have a drink or drug issue there are others, some of the pensioners for example use their own passes, some passengers even use their sticks as an aid, not a fashion accessorie unlike many of the Low Hill chavs 'Gracias' for example..... I'll leave it there ;D ;D
Quote from: nitromatt1 on June 10, 2013, 10:38:00 PM
Enviro200 on the 142 this evening, couldn't see fleetnumber as it was dark but don't think it had 9 branding
That will be 2143 then matt
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Enviro200 on the 142 this evening, couldn't see fleetnumber as it was dark but don't think it had 9 branding
That will be 2143 then matt
Yes I know the only unbranded one is 2143! But I couldn't see properly if it had branding or not because it was dark and it pulled off just as I arrived on the 9
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Enviro200 on the 142 this evening, couldn't see fleetnumber as it was dark but don't think it had 9 branding
That will be 2143 then matt
Yes I know the only unbranded one is 2143! But I couldn't see properly if it had branding or not because it was dark and it pulled off just as I arrived on the 9
And 2144!
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Enviro200 on the 142 this evening, couldn't see fleetnumber as it was dark but don't think it had 9 branding
That will be 2143 then matt
Yes I know the only unbranded one is 2143! But I couldn't see properly if it had branding or not because it was dark and it pulled off just as I arrived on the 9
And 2144!
No 2144 is at Wigston
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Enviro200 on the 142 this evening, couldn't see fleetnumber as it was dark but don't think it had 9 branding
That will be 2143 then matt
Yes I know the only unbranded one is 2143! But I couldn't see properly if it had branding or not because it was dark and it pulled off just as I arrived on the 9
And 2144!
No 2144 is at Wigston
I'm sure I read somewhere it was back replacing a SxxxKFL dart?
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Enviro200 on the 142 this evening, couldn't see fleetnumber as it was dark but don't think it had 9 branding
That will be 2143 then matt
Yes I know the only unbranded one is 2143! But I couldn't see properly if it had branding or not because it was dark and it pulled off just as I arrived on the 9
And 2144!
No 2144 is at Wigston
I'm sure I read somewhere it was back replacing a SxxxKFL dart?
Oh, I was just going on Tony's fleetlist info, I haven't seen 2144 though, will keep an eye out for it
2144 is at Wednesfield, replacing 2415.
Another E200 on the 20/21, could have been 2143, as it was unbranded
Quote from: Shaun on June 13, 2013, 12:14:34 AM
Another E200 on the 20/21, could have been 2143, as it was unbranded
Or 2144, also at Wednesfield unbranded
3727 (74/75 branding) on the 68 yesterday
Quote from: nitromatt1 on June 14, 2013, 08:00:54 AM
3727 (74/75 branding) on the 68 yesterday
Arriva routes run by Cannock into Wolverhampton usually get practically every type in the garage even branded ones so wouldn't say unusual. Its rare to get a branded bus on route at cannock.
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3727 (74/75 branding) on the 68 yesterday
Arriva routes run by Cannock into Wolverhampton usually get practically every type in the garage even branded ones so wouldn't say unusual. Its rare to get a branded bus on route at cannock.
Oh ok it just looked funny ;D
Yep they certainly cant do route branding properly, one of the stafford branded buses had it removed so it could be used on any service now its normally on the Stafford routes!!! They all need a respray any way both the number 1 & 74/5 buses havent been done since 2007 and Arriva dont even use that style of branding any more!!!
Has no one ever thought that route branding is to advertise the EXISTANCE of a route and as such needs to be moved about as much as possible,certainly NOT kept on one route.
Surely,if I am in say Wolverhampton and I see a bus branded for route 1 (Walsall-Cannock) then I am made aware that such a service EXISTS and may therefore use it in the future.
Keeping the bus on route 1 is pointless since if I am using the route I am obviously aware of it .
Such an idea is not new.............members with longer memories will recall many National Bus Company double deckers being branded for National Holidays,surely no one expected them to be used in that way.
Regard branding as an advertisement,and it all makes sense.
Quote from: arrifirststage on June 14, 2013, 02:42:12 PM
Has no one ever thought that route branding is to advertise the EXISTANCE of a route and as such needs to be moved about as much as possible,certainly NOT kept on one route.
Surely,if I am in say Wolverhampton and I see a bus branded for route 1 (Walsall-Cannock) then I am made aware that such a service EXISTS and may therefore use it in the future.
Keeping the bus on route 1 is pointless since if I am using the route I am obviously aware of it .
Such an idea is not new.............members with longer memories will recall many National Bus Company double deckers being branded for National Holidays,surely no one expected them to be used in that way.
Regard branding as an advertisement,and it all makes sense.
But surely the main people being targeted by the branding are the people living or travelling along the bus route who are currently not using the service! If you are sat in traffic for instance on the Walsall Road, and a branded X51 comes speeding past you in the bus lane you might think "oh that bus is every 10 minutes and always overtakes me in the morning, I had no idea it had journeys so late in the evening though when I come home. I'll look into using that."
You're passenger/motorist/pedestrian travelling between Wednesfield & Wolverhampton is only going to use a route between Cannock and Stafford (for example) once every blue moon, if ever, and most probably couldn't care less about that service.
Quote from: arrifirststage on June 14, 2013, 02:42:12 PM
Has no one ever thought that route branding is to advertise the EXISTANCE of a route and as such needs to be moved about as much as possible,certainly NOT kept on one route.
Surely,if I am in say Wolverhampton and I see a bus branded for route 1 (Walsall-Cannock) then I am made aware that such a service EXISTS and may therefore use it in the future.
Keeping the bus on route 1 is pointless since if I am using the route I am obviously aware of it .
Such an idea is not new.............members with longer memories will recall many National Bus Company double deckers being branded for National Holidays,surely no one expected them to be used in that way.
Regard branding as an advertisement,and it all makes sense.
Partially true I suppose but a branded bus is more useful on its supposed route so as people aren't confused and they are made aware of services on that corridor. Personally, a diamond crusader running round advertising buses every .... minutes between walsall and willenhall on the 4 is completely useless-people just think-does this bus take me to where I need to go??
A route branded bus is just that.. branded for the route. If it was otherwise itd be a route advert bus. Off route just looks crap and badly allocated. Itd be like walking into asda and finding findus lasagne advertised in the clothing aisle lol
Quote from: bob on June 14, 2013, 04:44:56 PM
... Itd be like walking into asda and finding findus lasagne advertised in the clothing aisle lol
I thought there would be a horse joke in there somewhere?! ..advertising for Findus Lasagne at the Grand National?..
If you wish to advertise for a bus route then use a superside? Branding is for use on the one route to advertise frequency and if you see a branded service you might think it is more reliable?
Back on topic, 3468 is on the 890 today. I wanted to go to Bridgnorth aswell, but I knew I didn't have time.
Unbranded Enviro doing the 142/257 this evening
I saw 2144 about 1905 running towards Stourbridge dead from Brierley hill so could be that?
Quote from: trainbasher on June 25, 2013, 11:37:26 PM
I saw 2144 about 1905 running towards Stourbridge dead from Brierley hill so could be that?
Probably was then, thanks
Anybody know which depot runs service 584? (I presume it is Telford as it advertises its bus station)
Also on Tony's fleetlist I couldn't see the bus I was on earlier (was either 2770 or 2570 bus had a SK52 registration on it)
Quote from: vinh1000 on June 26, 2013, 08:23:59 PM
Also on Tony's fleetlist I couldn't see the bus I was on earlier (was either 2770 or 2570 bus had a SK52 registration on it)
Do you mean 2270 'SK52 MLJ', at Telford?
Quote from: vinh1000 on June 26, 2013, 08:23:59 PM
Anybody know which depot runs service 584? (I presume it is Telford as it advertises its bus station)
Also on Tony's fleetlist I couldn't see the bus I was on earlier (was either 2770 or 2570 bus had a SK52 registration on it)
Bridgnorth - an outstation of Telford.
3151 on Route 19 yesterday
Quote from: John on June 26, 2013, 08:32:06 PM
Quote from: vinh1000 on June 26, 2013, 08:23:59 PM
Also on Tony's fleetlist I couldn't see the bus I was on earlier (was either 2770 or 2570 bus had a SK52 registration on it)
Do you mean 2270 'SK52 MLJ', at Telford?
Thanks :-)
Arriva telford R417ejw 3417 plaxton bodied scania on 22 in telford today! Absolutely beast, miss these in Walsall and had them as a kid on X5 to telford when they were at Shrewsbury! FAST AS HELL!!!!!
Quote from: dannygill on June 28, 2013, 09:48:19 AM
Arriva telford R417ejw 3417 plaxton bodied scania on 22 in telford today! Absolutely beast, miss these in Walsall and had them as a kid on X5 to telford when they were at Shrewsbury! FAST AS HELL!!!!!
Hadn't seen that for a while, thought they'd got rid of it.
9 branded E200 on the 217 today. Way way out of its route it's branded for!!!
Quote from: s94 on July 01, 2013, 05:44:42 PM
9 branded E200 on the 217 today. Way way out of its route it's branded for!!!
Fleet no. 2141
R417TJW on 55 Telford-Wellington/PRH (01/07/2013)
E200 2144 on the 19 (Wolverhampton-Walsall) today. First E200 on there i think but looked smart on there.
Midland livery solo on the 213
3760 on the 68
Quote from: nitromatt1 on July 02, 2013, 11:24:55 PM
3760 on the 68
Not unusual matt (Would of looked unusual as you usually see MPD's and B10BLE's when your in Wolverhampton) but practically every type of bus at Cannock works the 68 regually
Tamworth 780 was worked by 2615 this morning. This afternoon it had been replaced by 3012.
2361 on Pye Green Circular today in Cannock
Thats not that unusual although theyre intended for the 60& 825 they usually stray on to other routes especially at eveings
Quote from: busman99 on July 08, 2013, 05:16:58 PM
2361 on Pye Green Circular today in Cannock
No destination programmed yet
http://wmbusphotos.com/Arriva/2361a.html
Quote from: bob on July 08, 2013, 05:48:46 PM
Thats not that unusual although theyre intended for the 60& 825 they usually stray on to other routes especially at eveings
Whoops wrong bus :-/ my bad
2614 has just left Tamworth on the 765 to Nuneaton.
9 branded 2140 on the 19 (Wolverhampton-Walsall) today. Spotted in.Wednesfield just after 5PM
Not unusual at this rate! - 2615 is on the 15.30 Lichfield to Nuneaton 765 today.
A 9 branded E200 on either the 19.or 63 seen pulling into New Cross Hospital
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 10, 2013, 06:55:22 PM
A 9 branded E200 on either the 19.or 63 seen pulling into New Cross Hospital
2140 was on the 64 when I saw it
http://wmbusphotos.com/Arriva/2140.html
Quote from: Tony on July 10, 2013, 09:12:17 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 10, 2013, 06:55:22 PM
A 9 branded E200 on either the 19.or 63 seen pulling into New Cross Hospital
2140 was on the 64 when I saw it
http://wmbusphotos.com/Arriva/2140.html
Must have been the 63 then as the 63/4 interework
And again! 2615 on the 1630 today Lichfield to Nuneaton 765.
3737 on the 62 today (methinks that is a little over capacity for a route previously using solos!)
Perhaps theyre hoping itll pick up, other wise itll be another one they discard at the next tender round probably along with the 68 lol
In fact I dont know what's happened to the 62 it used to be a good route years ago mainly decker operated.
2140 and 2141 both on 142/257 today
Quote from: bob on July 12, 2013, 09:36:14 PM
In fact I dont know what's happened to the 62 it used to be a good route years ago mainly decker operated.
The 62 has picked up in passenger numbers a driver told me that each bus is carrying around 250 people throughout the day thats not too bad I think
Quote from: busman99 on July 12, 2013, 10:51:56 PM
Quote from: bob on July 12, 2013, 09:36:14 PM
In fact I dont know what's happened to the 62 it used to be a good route years ago mainly decker operated.
The 62 has picked up in passenger numbers a driver told me that each bus is carrying around 250 people throughout the day thats not too bad I think
3737, when I saw it by the Cross Keys around 17:10 had a lovely round number on! - 0
Lol not one nx wouldbe bidding on then....
Volvo B9 on the 780 for the last two days.
2144 610
2226 334
Spotted 2144 in Dudley on the 610 earlier.Usually MPD's
Midland-liveried Optare Solo 2560 is on the 142/257 today
Volvo B6LE 2615 was on the 110 today.
3756 was on the 23 last night with new wifi stickers
Solo 2503 55 yesterday and scania 3489 tonight (Telford)
Decker on the 334 earlier iirc
Quote from: DJ trainbasher on July 19, 2013, 09:13:53 PM
Decker on the 334 earlier iirc
DAF ALX400 or East Lancs Trident?
2143 on the X35 today
2143 or 2144 on the 57 either today or yesterday
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 19, 2013, 09:18:23 PM
2143 on the X35 today
2143 or 2144 on the 57 either today or yesterday
It is not unusual for the 2 unbranded Enviro200s to appear on most other Wednesfield Routes
I have seen them on the 35, 298 and others
Quote from: John on July 19, 2013, 10:13:17 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 19, 2013, 09:18:23 PM
2143 on the X35 today
2143 or 2144 on the 57 either today or yesterday
It is not unusual for the 2 unbranded Enviro200s to appear on most other Wednesfield Routes
I have seen them on the 35, 298 and others
I haven't seen one on the 57 and that passes close to my house (Stubby Lane)
4796
Don't know if this comes under the topic, but THM-based SN03 LGE was seen in Shrewsbury, to replace Shropshire County Council Solos... Seen on http://www.flickr.com/photos/76008923@N04/9338765394/in/photolist-feeBAs-d3RHAL-9psGvC-edCnRX-dNz2hf (http://www.flickr.com/photos/76008923@N04/9338765394/in/photolist-feeBAs-d3RHAL-9psGvC-edCnRX-dNz2hf). It says...
QuoteHello Mini Pointer Dart :) Nice to have some good buses back at shrewsbury :) there will be more darts to cover for the council optare solo's 6 of the solo's going back to the council and arriva might buy them from the council
Does this replacement include those at TF and/or OS?
Thurmaston-based 2342 is seen working 23 in Telford http://www.flickr.com/photos/35777972@N02/9351330924/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/35777972@N02/9351330924/)
Just seen Thurmaston-based 2346 (S346YOG) working route 33/33A/55 today in Telford. Any ideas of this transfer, as well as 2342?
3735 (Plaxton Centro) with what looked like incomplete branding on route 892 in Wolverhampton around 17:45
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 23, 2013, 06:32:10 PM
3735 (Plaxton Centro) with what looked like incomplete branding on route 892 in Wolverhampton around 17:45
I'm guessing this is on loan to TF then? Or is it permanent? Who knows?
Quote from: arrivadays on July 23, 2013, 05:19:01 PM
Just seen Thurmaston-based 2346 (S346YOG) working route 33/33A/55 today in Telford. Any ideas of this transfer, as well as 2342?
these were displaced by DLAs at Thurmaston which had been on loan to wigston whilst the sapphires were refurbished.
3008 is on Tamworth 780 this afternoon.
Seen a nice looking bus on the Walsall to Cannock 2 just.
Obviously not a regular on the route!
3745 on the 891/2 in Wolverhampton (Usually Versa operated)
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 24, 2013, 05:51:34 PM
3745 on the 891/2 in Wolverhampton (Usually Versa operated)
I thought it was 890 and 891.
You do sometimes get a SB120 or B6BLE appear on those but a Pulsar 2 is very unusual. Good spot Nathan!
Quote from: John on July 24, 2013, 06:44:30 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 24, 2013, 05:51:34 PM
3745 on the 891/2 in Wolverhampton (Usually Versa operated)
I thought it was 890 and 891.
You do sometimes get a SB120 or B6BLE appear on those but a Pulsar 2 is very unusual. Good spot Nathan!
No its definetley the 891/2 as i saw it on the 891 earlier in the day then saw it later on the 892.
The 891/2 usually sees Versas and the 890 just gets everything
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 24, 2013, 07:29:31 PM
No its definetley the 891/2 as i saw it on the 891 earlier in the day then saw it later on the 892.
The 891/2 usually sees Versas and the 890 just gets everything
I only said that Nathan because I have never heard of or ever seen a 892 before
Quote from: John on July 24, 2013, 07:31:46 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 24, 2013, 07:29:31 PM
No its definetley the 891/2 as i saw it on the 891 earlier in the day then saw it later on the 892.
The 891/2 usually sees Versas and the 890 just gets everything
I only said that Nathan because I have never heard of or ever seen a 892 before
Well i think it only operates in telford to somewhere else in the day then 3-4 journeys extend to Wolverhampton in an afternoon
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 24, 2013, 07:45:03 PM
Well i think it only operates in telford to somewhere else in the day then 3-4 journeys extend to Wolverhampton in an afternoon
Ah right, cheers Nathan
Quote from: John on July 24, 2013, 07:45:46 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 24, 2013, 07:45:03 PM
Well i think it only operates in telford to somewhere else in the day then 3-4 journeys extend to Wolverhampton in an afternoon
Ah right, cheers Nathan
890 is operated by Bridgnorth (using TF buses), running Bridgnorth <-> Wolverhampton
891 is operated by Telford Depot, running Telford <-> Wolverhampton (in the day)
892 is operated by Telford Depot, running Telford <-> Stafford Park (in the day) / Telford <-> Wolverhampton (evening)
Quote from: arrivadays on July 24, 2013, 09:30:47 PM
890 is operated by Bridgnorth (using TF buses), running Bridgnorth <-> Wolverhampton
891 is operated by Telford Depot, running Telford <-> Wolverhampton (in the day)
892 is operated by Telford Depot, running Telford <-> Stafford Park (in the day) / Telford <-> Wolverhampton (evening)
Thanks for that. Sums it up great :)
Yeah thanks for the info :)
Is the 890 still supposed to get Versa?
Today, the 2 buses were an SB120 and 3417, a great bus. I had a ride on each and apart from a lack of leg room, the Scania was phenomenal. On the other hand the SB120 was diabolical. Need I say more?
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on July 24, 2013, 10:47:39 PM
Is the 890 still supposed to get Versa?
Today, the 2 buses were an SB120 and 3417, a great bus. I had a ride on each and apart from a lack of leg room, the Scania was phenomenal. On the other hand the SB120 was diabolical. Need I say more?
It depends what Telford gives Bridgnorth... It used to be Versa - but now it's just any old bus. Sometimes it's been an MPD...
What routes does Bridgnorth operate, besides the 890?
I think they used to operate the Stourbridge 142 until recently, before that moved to Wednesfield.
The only other route I can think of is the Bridgnorth to Kiddy 297.
If that goes, surely theres no point in Bridgnorth stopping open?
If there's only the 890 otherwise, surely that would move to Wednesfield, as the closest depot?
Quote from: Westy on July 24, 2013, 11:57:36 PM
What routes does Bridgnorth operate, besides the 890?
I think they used to operate the Stourbridge 142 until recently, before that moved to Wednesfield.
The only other route I can think of is the Bridgnorth to Kiddy 297.
If that goes, surely theres no point in Bridgnorth stopping open?
If there's only the 890 otherwise, surely that would move to Wednesfield, as the closest depot?
I think these are the routes Bridgnorth depot (albeit using Telford vehicles) operates:
99/99A - Telford <-> Bridgnorth (day time and some evening journeys)
115/116 - Bridgnorth <-> Weston Heath
141 - Ludlow <-> Bridgnorth
297 - Bridgnorth <-> Kidderminster
436 - Shrewsbury <-> Bridgnorth
890 - Bridgnorth <-> Wolverhampton
Quote from: arrivadays on July 24, 2013, 10:53:49 PM
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on July 24, 2013, 10:47:39 PM
Is the 890 still supposed to get Versa?
Today, the 2 buses were an SB120 and 3417, a great bus. I had a ride on each and apart from a lack of leg room, the Scania was phenomenal. On the other hand the SB120 was diabolical. Need I say more?
It depends what Telford gives Bridgnorth... It used to be Versa - but now it's just any old bus. Sometimes it's been an MPD...
They were using a full size dart on there recently
And the 584/585/586/587
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 25, 2013, 10:06:35 AM
Quote from: arrivadays on July 24, 2013, 10:53:49 PM
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on July 24, 2013, 10:47:39 PM
Is the 890 still supposed to get Versa?
Today, the 2 buses were an SB120 and 3417, a great bus. I had a ride on each and apart from a lack of leg room, the Scania was phenomenal. On the other hand the SB120 was diabolical. Need I say more?
It depends what Telford gives Bridgnorth... It used to be Versa - but now it's just any old bus. Sometimes it's been an MPD...
They were using a full size dart on there recently
FJ55 BWD I'm guessing? That and S629 KHN are the only ones left.
We got 2361 s629khn with us at cannock, back to unusual, in derby today 2237 w237snr working the 37, I assume its rare, as this is normaly deckered
Quote from: arrivaaston on July 25, 2013, 05:55:39 PM
We got 2361 s629khn with us at cannock, back to unusual, in derby today 2237 w237snr working the 37, I assume its rare, as this is normaly deckered
Yeah - I'm guessing that 2346 and 2342 are now staying with us at Telford - possibly 2274 as bob has stated in a previous post - but not seen that yet...
S629khn still don't have a working dest display so maybe its just on temporary loan I bloody hope so, heap of shit lol
Quote from: bob on July 25, 2013, 06:10:23 PM
S629khn still don't have a working dest display so maybe its just on temporary loan I bloody hope so, heap of shit lol
Can barely make a hill!
S629 is with us at cannock "on long term loan" no doubt 2346 and 2342 will be here shortly 2361 blind doesn't work because of faulty wiring also we've recently gained 2131 v424dgt
Quote from: arrivaaston on July 25, 2013, 06:56:27 PM
S629 is with us at cannock "on long term loan" no doubt 2346 and 2342 will be here shortly 2361 blind doesn't work because of faulty wiring also we've recently gained 2131 v424dgt
2346 seems alright, but I haven't seen 2342 - presumably it's okay...
2143 on Route 67 (Wolverhampton-Cannock) today. First time i've seen an E200 on there. Usually an An MPD or solo
Nearly always used to be solo then more recently nearly always a dart. That routes going on 1st sept, well not going but being run by another operator
Quote from: bob on July 26, 2013, 06:49:39 PM
Nearly always used to be solo then more recently nearly always a dart. That routes going on 1st sept, well not going but being run by another operator
Select Buses of Penkeridge isn't it?
Yea and the 23/23a also. Saw a slf dart of theres in wolves the other day it looked smart and interior looked better than most of cannocks
Just some quick notes of yesterday's unusual workings in Telford:
-> Wright Pulsar / VDL SB200 on routes 11/22 and 33/55.
-> Optare Versa on Tesco Shuttle
-> R342 TJW on the 11/22 (presuming this transfer is long-term, as far as I can see)
Don't know whether 3489 on route 25 counts?
And today:
-> S346 YOG on route 33/55
-> 481-branded Optare Versa on route 33/55
2745 seen working 27 in Shrewsbury... http://www.flickr.com/photos/76008923@N04/9373019042/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/76008923@N04/9373019042/)
9 branded 2141 on the 142/257
There was an L113/Paladin on a wolverhampton route today, was either going to bridgo or telford
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on August 01, 2013, 07:46:43 PM
There was an L113/Paladin on a wolverhampton route today, was either going to bridgo or telford
Most likley the 890
Am I right in saying that R417TJW is the only ARRIVA (not Wardle/Midland) Plaxton Paladin/Scania L113CRL in the Midlands fleet?
Yes i believe it is along with the two East Lancs ones at telford
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on August 01, 2013, 10:21:59 PM
Yes i believe it is along with the two East Lancs ones at telford
Three East Lancs - because there's N168 PUT, N429 XRC and N431 XRC. That said - I haven't seen N168 PUT for a while...
I wasnkt fully sure so thanks for the info, every now and again theyre appearing on the 890 but i dont have my camera in my bag half the time, the one scania paladin ive had i dont have a number for but i believe its now been cubed
Great buses far better than the Darts / sb120s
I agree, i just left it far too late to show much interest in them which was abit daft
3468 still going, infact I had my photo taken with all 3 of the scanias, didn't get 1 with 3417 as she's bridfnorth at the moment
4796 on the 10 in Wolverhampton this afternoon.
Also 2208 was on the 18 (Wolverhampton-Lyndale Park). Usually MPD or Solo
4796 was PM peak extra, on 334s in the daytime.
4804 on 10s all day.
4851 on 19s all day.
4796 (DAF ALX400) on 10 today
In Telford today...
3417 on 33/55
2503 on 11/22
2634 on 65/66
2717 on 481
a 481-branded Versa on 11/22
3742 on 33/55
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 08, 2013, 06:37:20 PM
4796 (DAF ALX400) on 10 today
Saw that again around 18:00. Anyone know if it was a peak board or on there all day?
Is anybody visiting/visited to Flower Show to see the buses brought in to work extra duties - the bendy buses are there again!
2208 - 19
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/9493692501/
2144 - branded 35 - 517
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/9493693271/
Quote from: Nathan on August 12, 2013, 05:43:35 PM
2208 - 19
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/9493692501/
2144 - branded 35 - 517
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/9493693271/
2208 is regually allocated to the 19
Even 2208 is too big for the 19.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 12, 2013, 06:59:57 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 12, 2013, 05:43:35 PM
2208 - 19
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/9493692501/
2144 - branded 35 - 517
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/9493693271/
2208 is regually allocated to the 19
Thought it was just Doubles on the 19 ??
Quote from: Nathan on August 12, 2013, 07:24:58 PM
Thought it was just Doubles on the 19 ??
Mostly, but some singles do operate the 19 as well
Maybe theyre starting to realise that deckers are absolutely not needed?
Quote from: John on August 12, 2013, 07:29:42 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 12, 2013, 07:24:58 PM
Thought it was just Doubles on the 19 ??
Mostly, but some singles do operate the 19 as well
Oh, what other singles operate the 19 then, as I thought this was unusual, also does the 517 operate of Wednesfeild garage, or is 2144 on loan ?
517 is out of Wednesfield.
Quote from: Nathan on August 12, 2013, 09:01:14 PM
Oh, what other singles operate the 19 then, as I thought this was unusual,
Solos, darts and Enviro200s have all worked on the 19s.
Quote from: John on August 12, 2013, 09:10:13 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 12, 2013, 09:01:14 PM
Oh, what other singles operate the 19 then, as I thought this was unusual,
Solos, darts and Enviro200s have all worked on the 19s.
was that before it was extended to WN
Quote from: Arriva WD on August 12, 2013, 09:07:34 PM
517 is out of Wednesfield.
Thats a long distance from the Garage to Start the route
Quote from: Nathan on August 12, 2013, 09:15:13 PM
was that before it was extended to WN
It used to be one of the Tridents and a single decker, usually the Excel from what I can remember
Quote from: John on August 12, 2013, 09:20:34 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 12, 2013, 09:15:13 PM
was that before it was extended to WN
It used to be one of the Tridents and a single decker, usually the Excel from what I can remember
Off topic a little but have the Excels and Scania's gone ?
Quote from: Nathan on August 12, 2013, 09:24:06 PM
Off topic a little but have the Excels and Scania's gone ?
The Scania OmniCitys have long gone. Midland transferred them to D&G before the Arriva takeover, along with the 2 9 branded VDL MCV Evolutions. I think the OmniCitys have since transferred to South Lancs Travel
There has only been one Excel with Midland/Arriva for a while, 'S2 CLA', 3151. According to Tonys fleetlist, it is still in service at Wednesfield
Quote from: John on August 12, 2013, 09:28:05 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 12, 2013, 09:24:06 PM
Off topic a little but have the Excels and Scania's gone ?
The Scania OmniCitys have long gone. Midland transferred them to D&G before the Arriva takeover, along with the 2 9 branded VDL MCV Evolutions. I think the OmniCitys have since transferred to South Lancs Travel
There has only been one Excel with Midland/Arriva for a while, 'S2 CLA', 3151. According to Tonys fleetlist, it is still in service at Wednesfield
Still working the WN 10?
3151 has been withdrawn now
Quote from: Nathan on August 12, 2013, 09:32:05 PM
Still working the WN 10?
Are you on about single deckers Scanias Nathan? Or the double deckers on the 10, which are Dennis Tridents (4851/4)
Quote from: Nathan on August 12, 2013, 09:15:13 PM
Quote from: John on August 12, 2013, 09:10:13 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 12, 2013, 09:01:14 PM
Oh, what other singles operate the 19 then, as I thought this was unusual,
Solos, darts and Enviro200s have all worked on the 19s.
was that before it was extended to WN
Quote from: Arriva WD on August 12, 2013, 09:07:34 PM
Not really - 8 miles
517 is out of Wednesfield.
Thats a long distance from the Garage to Start the route
Quote from: Arriva WD on August 12, 2013, 09:33:39 PM
3151 has been withdrawn now
When did it get Withdrawn? Do you know? ,
Was on about 3151 =D, but my questions been answered ;) hence why I have not seen it ?
Quote from: John on August 12, 2013, 09:28:05 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 12, 2013, 09:24:06 PM
Off topic a little but have the Excels and Scania's gone ?
The Scania OmniCitys have long gone. Midland transferred them to D&G before the Arriva takeover, along with the 2 9 branded VDL MCV Evolutions. I think the OmniCitys have since transferred to South Lancs Travel
There has only been one Excel with Midland/Arriva for a while, 'S2 CLA', 3151. According to Tonys fleetlist, it is still in service at Wednesfield
Tbh haven't seen 3151 for ages now. Has it been Withdrawn?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 12, 2013, 09:57:24 PM
Quote from: John on August 12, 2013, 09:28:05 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 12, 2013, 09:24:06 PM
Off topic a little but have the Excels and Scania's gone ?
The Scania OmniCitys have long gone. Midland transferred them to D&G before the Arriva takeover, along with the 2 9 branded VDL MCV Evolutions. I think the OmniCitys have since transferred to South Lancs Travel
There has only been one Excel with Midland/Arriva for a while, 'S2 CLA', 3151. According to Tonys fleetlist, it is still in service at Wednesfield
Tbh haven't seen 3151 for ages now. Has it been Withdrawn?
That's what I was thinking. Hope it hasn't as really want to have a ride on it
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 12, 2013, 10:00:25 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 12, 2013, 09:57:24 PM
Quote from: John on August 12, 2013, 09:28:05 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 12, 2013, 09:24:06 PM
Off topic a little but have the Excels and Scania's gone ?
The Scania OmniCitys have long gone. Midland transferred them to D&G before the Arriva takeover, along with the 2 9 branded VDL MCV Evolutions. I think the OmniCitys have since transferred to South Lancs Travel
There has only been one Excel with Midland/Arriva for a while, 'S2 CLA', 3151. According to Tonys fleetlist, it is still in service at Wednesfield
Tbh haven't seen 3151 for ages now. Has it been Withdrawn?
That's what I was thinking. Hope it hasn't as really want to have a ride on it
3151 has been Withdrawn
Quote from: Nathan on August 12, 2013, 10:01:18 PM
3151 has been Withdrawn
Arriva WD has answered that earlier tonight :) I was wondering as well as I have not seen 3151 for a while now
Just posted my last message without reading the other posts.
Nathan just to clear things up:
Route 19 had anything in the garage before extended to Wolverhampton
The 19 mainly has the ALX400 DAF DB250's with certain journeys (Usually peak time) i see Solos.
MPD's,Full size darts and the East Lancs tridents cover usually
John, It was the trident working the 19 at first along with the Omnicitys then 4778 came to Wednesfield with that temporary midland logo?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 12, 2013, 10:03:39 PM
Just posted my last message without reading the other posts.
Nathan just to clear things up:
Route 19 had anything in the garage before extended to Wolverhampton
The 19 mainly has the ALX400 DAF DB250's with certain journeys (Usually peak time) i see Solos.
MPD's,Full size darts and the East Lancs tridents cover usually
John, It was the trident working the 19 at first along with the Omnicitys then 4778 came to Wednesfield with that temporary midland logo?
Only ever seen Doubles run on the 19, thats why Iposted 2208 - 19
Bob will you ever stop asking stupid questions??? Arrive are trying to show off to get passengers of Nx and they loss making routes to become more established.
Quote from: dgss1 on August 14, 2013, 05:40:22 PM
Bob will you ever stop asking stupid questions??? Arrive are trying to show off to get passengers of Nx and they loss making routes to become more established.
Show off? Yea theyre doing a fantastic job, cos its working...not
Uhh... Let's move on from the above debate - in Telford's Unusual Workings today, I have seen:
3489 / N429XRC on 33/55
2342 / R342TJW on 44 (after 3745 broke down in Oakengates)
2374 / FJ55BWD on 44
Quote from: arrivadays on August 14, 2013, 07:43:44 PM
Uhh... Let's move on from the above debate - in Telford's Unusual Workings today, I have seen:
3489 / N429XRC on 33/55
2342 / R342TJW on 44 (after 3745 broke down in Oakengates)
2374 / FJ55BWD on 44
Whats the usual allocations for these ?
Quote from: Nathan on August 14, 2013, 08:03:29 PM
Quote from: arrivadays on August 14, 2013, 07:43:44 PM
Uhh... Let's move on from the above debate - in Telford's Unusual Workings today, I have seen:
3489 / N429XRC on 33/55
2342 / R342TJW on 44 (after 3745 broke down in Oakengates)
2374 / FJ55BWD on 44
Whats the usual allocations for these ?
The 44 is usually ran by Telfords VDL Pulsar 2s (3742-3755)
Quote from: John on August 14, 2013, 08:06:10 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 14, 2013, 08:03:29 PM
Quote from: arrivadays on August 14, 2013, 07:43:44 PM
Uhh... Let's move on from the above debate - in Telford's Unusual Workings today, I have seen:
3489 / N429XRC on 33/55
2342 / R342TJW on 44 (after 3745 broke down in Oakengates)
2374 / FJ55BWD on 44
Whats the usual allocations for these ?
The 44 is usually ran by Telfords VDL Pulsar 2s (3742-3755)
Thanks John
2503 on 33/55 today - a strange allocation considering it was the run of OAPs getting on with their passes.
4778 on 334
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 15, 2013, 07:52:36 PM
4778 on 334
Is that usually Dart operated ?, as I know doubles work the 19 & 10
Quote from: Nathan on August 15, 2013, 08:59:44 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 15, 2013, 07:52:36 PM
4778 on 334
Is that usually Dart operated ?, as I know doubles work the 19 & 10
MPD,Solos and Full size darts usually but The ALX400 DAF's have been appearing on there quite a bit recently
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 15, 2013, 09:04:57 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 15, 2013, 08:59:44 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 15, 2013, 07:52:36 PM
4778 on 334
Is that usually Dart operated ?, as I know doubles work the 19 & 10
MPD,Solos and Full size darts usually but The ALX400 DAF's have been appearing on there quite a bit recently
How come
Wouldn't have a clue Nathan. Just i know its been reported a few times now
3417, 3489, 3491 seen on Telford 33/55 today :)
Scania - 110 - around 9-ish, is this common around that time, as only know scania's to run on Sundays ?
Quote from: Nathan on August 16, 2013, 09:14:35 PM
Scania - 110 - around 9-ish, is this common around that time, as only know scania's to run on Sundays ?
Yes Scanias regularly appear on the 110 any day of the week
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 16, 2013, 09:15:38 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 16, 2013, 09:14:35 PM
Scania - 110 - around 9-ish, is this common around that time, as only know scania's to run on Sundays ?
Yes Scanias regularly appear on the 110 any day of the week
I mean around the Morning Peak, usually double deckers ?
Quote from: Nathan on August 16, 2013, 09:17:21 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 16, 2013, 09:15:38 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 16, 2013, 09:14:35 PM
Scania - 110 - around 9-ish, is this common around that time, as only know scania's to run on Sundays ?
Yes Scanias regularly appear on the 110 any day of the week
I mean around the Morning Peak, usually double deckers ?
There are not enough double deckers to run the off peak service, that's why there are a couple of single deckers on there, so in the peak, more singles will be on there.
OmniLinks and Citaros regularly appear on the 110, seems to be Citaros more now though. There was no Omnilinks on there last Sunday, the normal mix of Geminis and Citaros
Quote from: John on August 16, 2013, 09:25:23 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 16, 2013, 09:17:21 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 16, 2013, 09:15:38 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 16, 2013, 09:14:35 PM
Scania - 110 - around 9-ish, is this common around that time, as only know scania's to run on Sundays ?
Yes Scanias regularly appear on the 110 any day of the week
I mean around the Morning Peak, usually double deckers ?
There are not enough double deckers to run the off peak service, that's why there are a couple of single deckers on there, so in the peak, more singles will be on there.
OmniLinks and Citaros regularly appear on the 110, seems to be Citaros more now though. There was no Omnilinks on there last Sunday, the normal mix of Geminis and Citaros
Haven't seen a Ciatro for a while?
Quote from: Nathan on August 16, 2013, 09:34:42 PM
Haven't seen a Ciatro for a while?
3019 was on there on Sunday. Some days, you will get Citaros, others OmniLinks and some days you will see both singles on there.
Quote from: Nathan on August 15, 2013, 09:06:52 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 15, 2013, 09:04:57 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 15, 2013, 08:59:44 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 15, 2013, 07:52:36 PM
4778 on 334
Is that usually Dart operated ?, as I know doubles work the 19 & 10
MPD,Solos and Full size darts usually but The ALX400 DAF's have been appearing on there quite a bit recently
How come
4801 was on there today I rode it on the 1535 Bilston - Bradford Place very smart inside and out and a comfortable ride.
Telford today 3468 11A (Wackys), 3489 33/55, 2739 44 3718 44 3754 481 2941 96/891 and 2939 11/22 (wackys)
35 Branded Dart - Off Route on the 604 ::) ::) ::)
3417 on 33/33A/55 in Telford today
Quote from: Nathan on August 19, 2013, 06:03:37 PM
35 Branded Dart - Off Route on the 604 ::) ::) ::)
Think 2152 is the only 35-branded Dart?
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 19, 2013, 09:12:21 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 19, 2013, 06:03:37 PM
35 Branded Dart - Off Route on the 604 ::) ::) ::)
Think 2152 is the only 35-branded Dart?
So far yes it is. Dart on a Dart route is not really unusual Nathan branded or not! (It is Wednesfield Garage ;))
3468 and 3489 on route 33/33A/55
Quote from: arrivadays on August 20, 2013, 04:22:15 PM
3468 and 3489 on route 33/33A/55
They are often on those routes so not really an unusual working lol
Quote from: bob on August 20, 2013, 04:40:24 PM
Quote from: arrivadays on August 20, 2013, 04:22:15 PM
3468 and 3489 on route 33/33A/55
They are often on those routes so not really an unusual working lol
Well - in my opinion it is an unusual working, because they have steps - think when step buses were dwindling in Shrewsbury - you'd often see them on less busy routes (8, 2, etc.) Considering a lot of people get on, especially with buggies and trolleys, etc., it is not practical, and you wouldn't think that they'd put it on there :)
It is practical in the case of pushchairs they can fold em up, what did people do previously? Step entry buses are loads comfier I find
4851 on the 19 with 4804 on the 10
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 20, 2013, 07:28:24 PM
4851 on the 19 with 4804 on the 10
Just to add 4851 is branded for route 10
Quote from: bob on August 20, 2013, 06:14:05 PM
It is practical in the case of pushchairs they can fold em up, what did people do previously? Step entry buses are loads comfier I find
Well, let's get this cleared up... The ELC Scanias have NO luggage bays. So, where are you going to put the buggy? And what if it's one of those big ones that you can't fold up? How are you going to get on? And, even if you could fold it up, it would take about 5 minutes - thus being late. And if you were to say about the Plaxton Scania, that only has 1 tiny luggage bay... So practical? I'd say not! Shrewsbury are now lucky to have no step buses - they are nice, but NOT practical - start thinking of others for a change with these step buses is what I'd say. Thank you! *Rant over* Now have a nice day
Both 10-branded Tridents were off route today - 4854 was on the 19, and 4851 was on the 334!
Quote from: arrivadays on August 21, 2013, 04:53:07 PM
Quote from: bob on August 20, 2013, 06:14:05 PM
It is practical in the case of pushchairs they can fold em up, what did people do previously? Step entry buses are loads comfier I find
Well, let's get this cleared up... The ELC Scanias have NO luggage bays. So, where are you going to put the buggy? And what if it's one of those big ones that you can't fold up? How are you going to get on? And, even if you could fold it up, it would take about 5 minutes - thus being late. And if you were to say about the Plaxton Scania, that only has 1 tiny luggage bay... So practical? I'd say not! Shrewsbury are now lucky to have no step buses - they are nice, but NOT practical - start thinking of others for a change with these step buses is what I'd say. Thank you! *Rant over* Now have a nice day
To be fair people always had to fold up buggies?? My mistake about the luggage racks but most step entry buseshad them, as steppers can be used til 2015 it isnt a 'right' that people have!
Tamworth;
4207 - Branded 110 - working 3
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/9562815337/
3015 - 6 to Ventura Park ?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/9565608936/in/photostream/
What I mean by earliest comment is that whilst it remains allowed to use them arriva are perfectly within their rights to use them passengers cant demand otherwise
@bob Still - what if somebody had one of those big, bulky buggies you can't fold up... Let's say, a double buggy? How do you expect to fold that? In addition, like I said, where will you put the buggy that you fold up (if you can) on an ELC Scania? And before you say on the seat, what if its wheels are wet and muddy? Step buses won't be comfier then when you've got a muddy / wet arse? Am I right?
In addition, on the floor wouldn't work - where are your legs going to go? In the aisle - have you read the signs saying "Don't obstruct the aisle"? And you've got to remember that Telford had a Merc minibus on the 55 yonks ago - I remember seeing it. Yes, it's gone - but still - that situation may come around again.
And, if knowledge serves me right, I believe its 2014, not 2015, when you have to get rid of these step buses.
Quote from: arrivadays on August 21, 2013, 08:49:51 PM
@bob Still - what if somebody had one of those big, bulky buggies you can't fold up... Let's say, a double buggy? How do you expect to fold that? In addition, like I said, where will you put the buggy that you fold up (if you can) on an ELC Scania? And before you say on the seat, what if its wheels are wet and muddy? Step buses won't be comfier then when you've got a muddy / wet arse? Am I right?
In addition, on the floor wouldn't work - where are your legs going to go? In the aisle - have you read the signs saying "Don't obstruct the aisle"? And you've got to remember that Telford had a Merc minibus on the 55 yonks ago - I remember seeing it. Yes, it's gone - but still - that situation may come around again.
And, if knowledge serves me right, I believe its 2014, not 2015, when you have to get rid of these step buses.
Thats their fault then u cant expect buses to hold buggies that are massive Im sorry but folding up a small pram is hardly a major problem really its what used to happen not long ago and to be honest the occasional step entrance appearance would work wonders on the bristol road in discouraging people from taking prams with their many children on the bus and blocking it up and step entrance buses are comfier. By definition, they are higher up so offer better views and comfort as opposed to an alx 400 where u can scarcely see out the windows-its like being in the bottom of a ship.
Sainsburys Branded bus - 35 today
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/9562807583/in/photostream/
4796 and i think 4804 on the 10 today with 4851 on the 334 and 4854 on the 19
Haven't noticed an Optare Solo on Lyndale Circular 18 for ages. Over the past few weeks its had an S-YOG and 2208 full size Plaxton Pointer darts and the W-SNR Full size ALX200 dart and also a load of MPD's (Mainy Y-HKE's)
Quote from: Nathan on August 21, 2013, 09:04:29 PM
Sainsburys Branded bus - 35 today
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/9562807583/in/photostream/
Not that odd. Usually spends most day on any service. Was on the 57 the other day
Quote from: DiamondDart on August 21, 2013, 09:03:08 PM
Quote from: arrivadays on August 21, 2013, 08:49:51 PM
@bob Still - what if somebody had one of those big, bulky buggies you can't fold up... Let's say, a double buggy? How do you expect to fold that? In addition, like I said, where will you put the buggy that you fold up (if you can) on an ELC Scania? And before you say on the seat, what if its wheels are wet and muddy? Step buses won't be comfier then when you've got a muddy / wet arse? Am I right?
In addition, on the floor wouldn't work - where are your legs going to go? In the aisle - have you read the signs saying "Don't obstruct the aisle"? And you've got to remember that Telford had a Merc minibus on the 55 yonks ago - I remember seeing it. Yes, it's gone - but still - that situation may come around again.
And, if knowledge serves me right, I believe its 2014, not 2015, when you have to get rid of these step buses.
Thats their fault then u cant expect buses to hold buggies that are massive Im sorry but folding up a small pram is hardly a major problem really its what used to happen not long ago and to be honest the occasional step entrance appearance would work wonders on the bristol road in discouraging people from taking prams with their many children on the bus and blocking it up and step entrance buses are comfier. By definition, they are higher up so offer better views and comfort as opposed to an alx 400 where u can scarcely see out the windows-its like being in the bottom of a ship.
Agreed! And its a pain in the arse waiting while the mothers ( usually pramface chavs in my hometown! ) faff and fanny about shifting the bloody huge monstrosities into position! And its a nightmare when the bus is packed and 3 or 4 people have to get up and stand just so a pushchair can get on. I definitely agree about feeling low down as well
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 21, 2013, 09:08:47 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 21, 2013, 09:04:29 PM
Sainsburys Branded bus - 35 today
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/9562807583/in/photostream/
Not that odd. Usually spends most day on any service. Was on the 57 the other day
Fair Enough, not seen this bus before, but by the advert I thought it was unusual
Quote from: DiamondDart on August 21, 2013, 09:03:08 PM
Quote from: arrivadays on August 21, 2013, 08:49:51 PM
@bob Still - what if somebody had one of those big, bulky buggies you can't fold up... Let's say, a double buggy? How do you expect to fold that? In addition, like I said, where will you put the buggy that you fold up (if you can) on an ELC Scania? And before you say on the seat, what if its wheels are wet and muddy? Step buses won't be comfier then when you've got a muddy / wet arse? Am I right?
In addition, on the floor wouldn't work - where are your legs going to go? In the aisle - have you read the signs saying "Don't obstruct the aisle"? And you've got to remember that Telford had a Merc minibus on the 55 yonks ago - I remember seeing it. Yes, it's gone - but still - that situation may come around again.
And, if knowledge serves me right, I believe its 2014, not 2015, when you have to get rid of these step buses.
Thats their fault then u cant expect buses to hold buggies that are massive Im sorry but folding up a small pram is hardly a major problem really its what used to happen not long ago and to be honest the occasional step entrance appearance would work wonders on the bristol road in discouraging people from taking prams with their many children on the bus and blocking it up and step entrance buses are comfier. By definition, they are higher up so offer better views and comfort as opposed to an alx 400 where u can scarcely see out the windows-its like being in the bottom of a ship.
I'm sorry - but what if your child doesn't walk? How do you expect them to climb up some steps. Yes, there's only 3, at most, but still, THEY CAN'T WALK! And "folding up a small pram is hardly a major problem" - you're all bloody moaning that the bus is always late, and that's because you've got many people taking 2-5 minutes folding up a buggy for the benefit of people on a bus causing inconvenience to the remainder of passengers on the route. In addition, if you have a child that can't stand up, you will have to struggle folding up a buggy with one hand. I'm not saying it can't be done - but it's difficult. Although, in fairness,
In addition - let's put it into perspective. Imagine you want to get a train. You're on a step-entry bus. Along the way to the train station, you've got about 2-3 mothers/fathers with buggies but can't get on due to steps. The route you're using only goes every TWO hours. You wouldn't wait for the next bus, would you? A two hour wait? Get real. So, that means, it's going to take about 2-5 minutes to fold up. So - we've said 2-3 parents getting on with buggies. 2-5 minute job multiplied by 2-3 parents is equal to a lateness of 4-15 minute lateness. You're late - now you've missed your train.
So - can you see where I'm coming from? Obviously you care for nobody but yourself. Yes, step buses are nice, but times are changing - lots of mothers are getting "fertility treatment" should we say, and therefore, low-floor buses with buggy bays are needed more.
Quote from: arrivadays on August 21, 2013, 09:21:20 PM
@bob - "pramface chavs" is stereotypical. I'm sorry, but I, as well as many other members of this forum, are getting fed up of your selfishness, your crudeness, and your general moaning. I may be moaning now - but I'm sure I've never moaned as much as you.
Stereotypical? Youve obviously never been to chadsmoor lol. Jesus lighten up you sound like some loony leftie. With all the timings you wrote above, 2mins for this 4 for that etc, what do u base that on? Buses didnt run late on every journey years ago mate?
I am against ANY pushchair being unfolded with the little baby sitting in it on a bus. The bay is initially for wheelchairs and extra seating...not pushchairs with (where I live anyway) the little chavvy teenage moms with their baby from 1 of 145 blokes that they have slept with.
There should be a law against the buggies being unfolded on ALL buses...not just non SLF stuff.
I am fed up of having my legs whacked with the pushchair and shopping multiple times whilst I am traveling to and from work/shops/day out (delete as appropriate).
Then there is the ones with the little **** running around the bus whilst the buggy is filled up with shopping (booze, fags, other items) which really annoy me!
Several comments have been deleted from this topic under the rule - no mention of buses! Some are close to personal abuse and any personal abuse will result in a ban
People need to remember that step free buses were only brought about to create accesible transport for wheelchair users and people with mobility issues. The carriage of buggies was a sideshow created by idiotic marketeers that had never travelled on or driven a bus.
I am with Bob, Diamond Dart and the other anti buggy brigade on this one. Passengers do not have a right to expect a bus that they can wheel a buggy onto, it is a bonus that is not lways available.
If you look closely at Tony's latest photo of 3417 in Wolverhampton, you can see a folded up pushchair in the luggage rack! Almost as rare a sight as this great bus, the last of its batch to survive....hope it goes on a while yet....
Not quite the last; 3415 and 3419 are at Longton depot.
Not checked this thread for a few days so it may have been mentioned, 4207 has been on 2/3s in Tamworth most of this week.
Quote from: nx4737 on August 23, 2013, 03:24:04 PM
Not checked this thread for a few days so it may have been mentioned, 4207 has been on 2/3s in Tamworth most of this week.
I got a picture of 4207 on the 3
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/9562815337/
2707 - branded 1 - out on the 33 today
That's the one Nathan, 4207, it's been on there all week, it must be having engine issues hence being kept local...
Midland liveried Solo 2560 on 142/257 last night.
Quote from: nx4737 on August 24, 2013, 09:53:02 PM
That's the one Nathan, 4207, it's been on there all week, it must be having engine issues hence being kept local...
I was there in Tamworth for 2days only seen Ciatros, but when I seen this i was like :o
2152 off route again ::)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/9609271586/in/photostream/
Quote from: Nathan4775 on August 27, 2013, 05:24:34 PM
2152 off route again ::)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/9609271586/in/photostream/
With a unbranded MPD on the 35!
Both 2141 and 2142 on 142/257 today. 2141 has 9 branding, 2142 is unbranded.
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 01, 2013, 09:19:28 PM
Both 2141 and 2142 on 142/257 today. 2141 has 9 branding, 2142 is unbranded.
Not really unusual to see Branded E200's on the tendered services (142/257,208/545/82,28E/530)
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 01, 2013, 10:28:53 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 01, 2013, 09:19:28 PM
Both 2141 and 2142 on 142/257 today. 2141 has 9 branding, 2142 is unbranded.
Not really unusual to see Branded E200's on the tendered services (142/257,208/545/82,28E/530)
Branded buses on the wrong route should be unusual, but this is Arriva Midlands here!
(NX aren't much better!)
Well your right with NX. 529 branded 4604 appeared on the 59 today and on a sunday too!
In Cannock its unusual to see a branded bus on the right route lol!
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 01, 2013, 10:28:53 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 01, 2013, 09:19:28 PM
Both 2141 and 2142 on 142/257 today. 2141 has 9 branding, 2142 is unbranded.
Not really unusual to see Branded E200's on the tendered services (142/257,208/545/82,28E/530)
Couldn't give a toss about branding, it's unusual to see Enviro200s on the 142/257, think I should know.
Oh sorry :( Just giving my opinion as it is a open forum but i guess you can't do that now can you?
Ok so its unusual if i see it every week now? I do see the 142/257 so think i know too.
Not going to argue and we are both allowed our own opinions :)
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 01, 2013, 11:34:09 PM
Oh sorry :( Just giving my opinion as it is a open forum but i guess you can't do that now can you?
Ok so its unusual if i see it every week now? I do see the 142/257 so think i know too.
Not going to argue and we are both allowed our own opinions :)
I am not arguing, just stating what I observe, given I live near the route. And no it doesn't happen every week, not really sure where you got that from. Only been one on there a couple of Sundays lately, and two being on there is definitely odd. I did see 2151 on there as well later though.
But you are arguing ::) Just i am saying everytime i have seen a 257 for the past 3/4 weeks it has been an E200. Only stating what i see. Please lets not fall out :) Lets face it its Wednesfield Garage, Nothing is unusual there ;)
MPD - 19; running with 2 passengers on ::)
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 05, 2013, 05:44:24 PM
MPD - 19; running with 2 passengers on ::)
This is a daily occurance in school time Nathan.
Why not brand up some of the ex london mpds for the 19 ? Theyd be more than suitable. Changing the subject has the stafford depot happenings page gone off here? Couldnt find it earlier lol
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 05, 2013, 05:44:24 PM
MPD - 19; running with 2 passengers on ::)
It was 2156 and i was on it! What time did you see it?
Matt, It kind of is slighly odd as the journey it was on always appears to have a ALX400 DAF on it.
The 19 going the other way past my school at 3PM was a dart which is the journey MPD's are common
Its proof that in no way are deckers needed lol. Mpd's suit the route. Yesterday it had an slf dart still in red on there, a right nail to be fair. Gives a crap image unfortunately
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 05, 2013, 06:40:00 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 05, 2013, 05:44:24 PM
MPD - 19; running with 2 passengers on ::)
It was 2156 and i was on it! What time did you see it?
Matt, It kind of is slighly odd as the journey it was on always appears to have a ALX400 DAF on it.
The 19 going the other way past my school at 3PM was a dart which is the journey MPD's are common
I seen it around 2ish
9 liveried 2141 & 2144 on the 142/257 today.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 08, 2013, 08:21:05 PM
9 liveried 2141 & 2144 on the 142/257 today.
Stu, this now happens every Sunday, due to the 9 & 35 not running on Sunday :)
However, it would be unusual to spot one on there on Arriva's evening service!
2144 - Branded 35 - Might have been off route yesterday, seen it coming down the Kingstanding Road whilst on the 56 at 8:00, as Walsall/Lichfeild are in the opposite direction
2141 - wanting to try out something new;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/9719235782/in/photostream/
2140 branded route 9 was on the 604 yesterday.
Not even that unusual anymore;
2144 - running on the 604, everywere I go 2144 happens to around ;)
2226 is/was on the 18 today. It usually resides on the 19. The 18 usually gets an MPD.
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on September 21, 2013, 04:48:48 PM
2226 is/was on the 18 today. It usually resides on the 19. The 18 usually gets an MPD.
No, 2226 is a regular on the 18. I see it on there much more regularly than on the 19. Nath will back me up as the 18 goes through his estate.
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 21, 2013, 05:17:49 PM
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on September 21, 2013, 04:48:48 PM
2226 is/was on the 18 today. It usually resides on the 19. The 18 usually gets an MPD.
No, 2226 is a regular on the 18. I see it on there much more regularly than on the 19. Nath will back me up as the 18 goes through his estate.
I've not seen it on there before. Certainly Monday-Thursday it was on the 19. I could walk for about 30 seconds from my house to where it stops.
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on September 21, 2013, 05:55:30 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 21, 2013, 05:17:49 PM
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on September 21, 2013, 04:48:48 PM
2226 is/was on the 18 today. It usually resides on the 19. The 18 usually gets an MPD.
No, 2226 is a regular on the 18. I see it on there much more regularly than on the 19. Nath will back me up as the 18 goes through his estate.
I've not seen it on there before. Certainly Monday-Thursday it was on the 19. I could walk for about 30 seconds from my house to where it stops.
I rode it on there a few weeks back and have seen it on there multiple times since
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 21, 2013, 06:07:17 PM
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on September 21, 2013, 05:55:30 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 21, 2013, 05:17:49 PM
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on September 21, 2013, 04:48:48 PM
2226 is/was on the 18 today. It usually resides on the 19. The 18 usually gets an MPD.
No, 2226 is a regular on the 18. I see it on there much more regularly than on the 19. Nath will back me up as the 18 goes through his estate.
I've not seen it on there before. Certainly Monday-Thursday it was on the 19. I could walk for about 30 seconds from my house to where it stops.
I rode it on there a few weeks back and have seen it on there multiple times since
I must be wrong then.
Was there many people on there? Did it struggle around the estate?
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on September 21, 2013, 06:10:09 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 21, 2013, 06:07:17 PM
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on September 21, 2013, 05:55:30 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 21, 2013, 05:17:49 PM
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on September 21, 2013, 04:48:48 PM
2226 is/was on the 18 today. It usually resides on the 19. The 18 usually gets an MPD.
No, 2226 is a regular on the 18. I see it on there much more regularly than on the 19. Nath will back me up as the 18 goes through his estate.
I've not seen it on there before. Certainly Monday-Thursday it was on the 19. I could walk for about 30 seconds from my house to where it stops.
I rode it on there a few weeks back and have seen it on there multiple times since
I must be wrong then.
Was there many people on there? Did it struggle around the estate?
It was quite busy with OAPs when I rode it although could've coped with an MPD.
It didn't seem to encounter any problems with the Moathouse Estate (if that's what it's called)
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on September 21, 2013, 04:48:48 PM
2226 is/was on the 18 today. It usually resides on the 19. The 18 usually gets an MPD.
This is quite a regular bus on the 18. Rode it on the 18 at least 4 times now excluding today.
It has had a few tight squeezes through Olinthus Avenue and Mouthouse Estate. During the last week of the holiday it appeared 3-4 times during that week on the 18.
Although i did notice this week that it has started seeing Solos again for the first time in over a month.
Seen Both the S-YOG and 2414 on the 18 aswell.
Just to Clear that up for both of you :)
Just to add there was a DAF ALX400 on the 10 today :)
I rarely see cash paying customers on there, usually only OAPs as you said. Surprised this is profitable.
Its tendered. Unlike the 19 which isnt yet has a handful of passengers quarter filling the bottom deck, that must be losing a fortune
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on September 21, 2013, 09:10:31 PM
I rarely see cash paying customers on there, usually only OAPs as you said. Surprised this is profitable.
Its a tendered service and only runs off peak (Between 9:30 and 14:30). Apart from me on a Saturday on my way to Wednesfield to renew my Nbus pass i don't see many people pay.
Sometimes picks up Fare paying passengers along the 59 route though.
i remember when i lived on the 18 esatate whenn green bus ran it. it was run commercially im led to believe but was geared to work off a cheslyn hay school contract. was always leopards on this route, and when they stopped it, i drove it at choice. we reguarly had an old 12m coach/dennis falcons/merc urbanrangers as well as the mix of midis. i always wondered, when you see people walking off the estate to main roads that maybe a well marketed peak running wasn't viable
Quote from: mranon on September 22, 2013, 10:50:20 AM
i remember when i lived on the 18 esatate whenn green bus ran it. it was run commercially im led to believe but was geared to work off a cheslyn hay school contract. was always leopards on this route, and when they stopped it, i drove it at choice. we reguarly had an old 12m coach/dennis falcons/merc urbanrangers as well as the mix of midis. i always wondered, when you see people walking off the estate to main roads that maybe a well marketed peak running wasn't viable
No that was a different route that went through Long Knowle to Cannock which became the 8 then the Arriva 68.
We are on about the 18 Service that is operated by Arriva (Previously Midland) that goes Wolverhampton-Lyndale estate via Moathouse estate
The green bus ran the 18 to lyndale park before midland & arriva.
Quote from: bob on September 22, 2013, 11:03:15 AM
The green bus ran the 18 to lyndale park before midland & arriva.
Oh sorry yes i do briefly remember the Green Bus running the 18 :)
to be fair m8, green bus ran the 18 wolverhampton to lyndale park for years. choice took it on after, renumbering it the 534 and linking it up with the 534 which created a long trip from lyndale to perton via codsall. they also played with it later calling it the 517 integrating it with the pattingham service. it was only after it was dropped, and not sure whether it got tendered out, that it became its own original 18 again. it also originally came out of stubby lane, went right into moathouse lane east, left into wright ave, then left onto hyde road picking up the lakefield/lichfield rd island up. moathouse/wright was always a pain in the arse due to inconsiderate parked cars. i thought this watching drivers struggle around, but later on 2002/4 driving it myself! the essington route long knowle your mixing me up with was the number 8, also ran by green bus. another route taken on and messed about with by arriva.
Green bus extended the 8 to cannock usually running it with leopard MFV 31T ( which had no working speedometer toward the end of its life!!) In its later days. Arriva started the 69 to compete with the essington bit and then introduced the 68 which went through long knowle. Shortly after when green bus closed down for good arriva withdrew both services. This led to loads of complaints as essington would be without a bus service and the council funded the 68
2144 - 112 makes a change for it not to be on the 604, but 2143 is filling in for 2144 not being there, wonder were the branded MPD is not seen it for a while ?
A volvo b6 on the 825 in stafford today! Strange!
2153 - Branded 35 MPD - 604
2562 (Midland liveried Solo) on the 217 today
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 14, 2013, 05:56:16 PM
2562 (Midland liveried Solo) on the 217 today
Hopefully that will do the 1845 227 ex Stourbridge and 2050 257 ex Stourbridge
Quote from: the trainbasher on October 14, 2013, 06:04:26 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 14, 2013, 05:56:16 PM
2562 (Midland liveried Solo) on the 217 today
Hopefully that will do the 1845 227 ex Stourbridge and 2050 257 ex Stourbridge
It left Halesowen about 16:15, does that fit?
If I am right,
1650 ex Merry Hill 217
Dead to Stourbridge from Halesowen
1845 ex Stourbridge 227
1915 ex Kinver 227
1945 ex Stourbridge 227
Dead to Stourbridge from Kinver
2050 ex Stourbridge 257
I Will probably see in about 30 minutes in Wollaston
Yes I'm right. 2562 has just pulled up on stand in Stourbridge on the 227
Should do the 2145 257 ex Dudley and 2240 142 ex Stourbridge as well
Quote from: the trainbasher on October 14, 2013, 06:48:57 PM
Yes I'm right. 2562 has just pulled up on stand in Stourbridge on the 227
Should do the 2145 257 ex Dudley and 2240 142 ex Stourbridge as well
Quite a fun day for 2562 then
Will be even more interesting when the duty changes happen from what I've heard
2554 on 298/9 yesterday, usually an MPD when I see it
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 19, 2013, 10:24:29 PM
2554 on 298/9 yesterday, usually an MPD when I see it
Caught it on the 18 (Lyndale Park-Wolverhampton) this morning. First Solo on the 18 in ages. Usualy an MPD or full size Dart
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 19, 2013, 10:26:43 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 19, 2013, 10:24:29 PM
2554 on 298/9 yesterday, usually an MPD when I see it
Caught it on the 18 (Lyndale Park-Wolverhampton) this morning. First Solo on the 18 in ages. Usualy an MPD or full size Dart
Yep, that's what reminded me about it being the bus on the 298/9 yesterday
Does a midland solo count on the 229??
Walsall-Lichfield Branded E200 2144 on the 10 (Wolverhampton-Perton) this morning. The first 10 from Wolverhampton at 08:50 is usually an MPD that does a round trip, gets back to Wolverhampton about 09:40 then goes out of service with one of the tridents (4851/4) running dead from garage to take up the 09:50 departure and then that stays out all day. 4851 took up duties on the 09:50 departure today
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 27, 2013, 10:17:22 AM
Walsall-Lichfield Branded E200 2144 on the 10 (Wolverhampton-Perton) this morning. The first 10 from Wolverhampton at 08:50 is usually an MPD that does a round trip, gets back to Wolverhampton about 09:40 then goes out of service with one of the tridents (4851/4) running dead from garage to take up the 09:50 departure and then that stays out all day. 4851 took up duties on the 09:50 departure today
2144 moved to the 28E/530 afterwards
E200 2142 on the 18 (Wolverhampton-Lyndale Park) today
Not that upto speed on Arriva devices so may not be that rare
on the 10 today (Wolves - Perton) was 4778, made a change from 4851 and 4854, but was did make me look was 4851 on the 516 Wolves - Pattingham last night, trundling down the Bridgnorth Road at 1710pm. Not seen a decker on the 516 before.
Lol may as well they use them on every pointless route they operate...
Quote from: DOC37V on October 31, 2013, 09:12:50 PM
Not that upto speed on Arriva devices so may not be that rare
on the 10 today (Wolves - Perton) was 4778, made a change from 4851 and 4854, but was did make me look was 4851 on the 516 Wolves - Pattingham last night, trundling down the Bridgnorth Road at 1710pm. Not seen a decker on the 516 before.
4778? That was on the 19 (Wolves - Walsall) earlier as i was on it and I have a picture
http://tomonthebuses.smugmug.com/ArrivaGroup-1/MidlandRedNorth/Arriva-Midlands-DAF-1/i-GQqvfWd/A
trainbasher
The trident is mega rare on the 516, Very Very good Spot :)
4778 probably came off a 19 in Wolverhampton then put on the 10
Quote from: the trainbasher on October 31, 2013, 09:18:55 PM
Quote from: DOC37V on October 31, 2013, 09:12:50 PM
Not that upto speed on Arriva devices so may not be that rare
on the 10 today (Wolves - Perton) was 4778, made a change from 4851 and 4854, but was did make me look was 4851 on the 516 Wolves - Pattingham last night, trundling down the Bridgnorth Road at 1710pm. Not seen a decker on the 516 before.
4778? That was on the 19 (Wolves - Walsall) earlier as i was on it and I have a picture
http://tomonthebuses.smugmug.com/ArrivaGroup-1/MidlandRedNorth/Arriva-Midlands-DAF-1/i-GQqvfWd/A
Have the loadings improved any? Would they fill a Solo yet? Lol :-p
trainbasher
Not sure if this is unusual but yestserday there was more single deckers out on the 110 than usual only seen 1 gemini Yesterday all other journeys I seen whilst in sutton shopping was either a ciatro or ominilink ?
Unusual Workings in Telford (31/10/2013)
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481-branded Versa on 11/22/22A/11A
2730 on 44
2978 on Tesco Shuttle Bus
2636 on 23/24
2504 on 33/55
2239 on 33/55
Trident on the 19 walsall bound at new invention. ONE PASSENGER ON BOARD! Lol. Why do they still insist on wasting deckers on there? Stupid or what
Quote from: bob on November 01, 2013, 09:40:06 AM
Trident on the 19 walsall bound at new invention. ONE PASSENGER ON BOARD! Lol. Why do they still insist on wasting deckers on there? Stupid or what
It's 4854
Unusual Workings in Telford (01/11/2013)
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2938 on 33/55
2634 on Tesco Shuttle Bus
2977 on 481
Wright Pulsar 2 on 481
Wednesfield based 2156 (310 Branded) is today working from Cannock on Pye Green Circulars
35 branded 2152 is on the 604
Quote from: arrivaaston on November 05, 2013, 09:44:21 AM
Wednesfield based 2156 (310 Branded) is today working from Cannock on Pye Green Circulars
Of all the buses they could have sent...
Lol says it all
Fj58hyv 3811 just gone through willenhall (14:25 7/11/13) nis
2629 is on the Tamworth 4/5/7 today! Patrick.
Quote from: derningtona on November 07, 2013, 03:34:34 PM
2629 is on the Tamworth 4/5/7 today! Patrick.
Noticed that earlier on Victoria Road...
FYI for anyone wanting to catch an 8/9 in Tamworth at the moment it's on diversion around the Belgrave/Wilnecote area that seems to be running to no set timetable >:(
Quote from: bob on November 01, 2013, 09:40:06 AM
Trident on the 19 walsall bound at new invention. ONE PASSENGER ON BOARD! Lol. Why do they still insist on wasting deckers on there? Stupid or what
The 2 seasonal Amazon Distribution Centre services have started again requiring 2 deckers to take workers across to Rugeley for about 6 a.m. and the night shift back. Buses then go onto the 19 and repeat the process late evening after 19 has finished.
Saw Trident 4854 on 516/7 about 6.15 p.m. coming out of Wolverhampton.
Quote from: dannygill on November 07, 2013, 02:28:30 PM
Fj58hyv 3811 just gone through willenhall (14:25 7/11/13) nis
A bit out of its usual area of Leicester!
A long shot and unlikely, but with new Pulsars due at Leicester, maybe a few of the B7RLES might transfer elsewhere?
Quote from: fleetline6477 on November 07, 2013, 07:19:00 PM
Quote from: bob on November 01, 2013, 09:40:06 AM
Trident on the 19 walsall bound at new invention. ONE PASSENGER ON BOARD! Lol. Why do they still insist on wasting deckers on there? Stupid or what
The 2 seasonal Amazon Distribution Centre services have started again requiring 2 deckers to take workers across to Rugeley for about 6 a.m. and the night shift back. Buses then go onto the 19 and repeat the process late evening after 19 has finished.
Saw Trident 4854 on 516/7 about 6.15 p.m. coming out of Wolverhampton.
Would imagine it came back with a windscreen full of tree
You mean 3911. 3811 is a former X31 Omnilink
I don't like the sound of that!!! Them 39** can stay put!!! Absoloute vile buses
Lol maybe theyre to upgrade wednesfield though. Christ they could do with it unless they want to run darts n solos forever
Quote from: arrivaaston on November 07, 2013, 08:25:24 PM
I don't like the sound of that!!! Them 39** can stay put!!! Absoloute vile buses
Wright Bodied B7RLEs are some of the best buses on the market. See Simon Dunn's post about what vehicles he would like a fleet of.
These and Citaros. Didn't someone post Stafford were to get a fleet of 58 plate vehicles?
Tony I cant see stafford getting a fleet of 58 plates ..... lol
Maybe the b10's at cannock could go wednesfield (again awful buses) instead of scrapping them.... Tbh I've never really been keen on Volvo single deck buses, The L/TKA L/HPP gotta of been some of the worse motors I've bashed in my time......
Theyre never planning to scrap the v-dbcs are they? Theres loads of similar age and older dartz I would of thought would go first
2629 seen again in Tamworth on the 6 today. 2616 not noted since the end of September. Patrick.
Yes mate they are being scrapped brilliant news :) and the first candidate is 3608 in the process of being stripped
Quote from: arrivaaston on November 10, 2013, 12:10:49 PM
Yes mate they are being scrapped brilliant news :) and the first candidate is 3608 in the process of being stripped
No, I love the B10BLEs :( 3609 in particular is brilliant, fast bus
Quote from: arrivaaston on November 10, 2013, 12:10:49 PM
Yes mate they are being scrapped brilliant news :) and the first candidate is 3608 in the process of being stripped
I dont understand the logic, most of the darts are on their last legs and a few are older than the b10s, plus some b10s were refurbished not that long ago?
2153 parked N.I.S at Kingstanding Circle, passed whilst on the 56, I imagine it will be on the 604 today
310 branded dart on the 20/21 (Bearwood - Oldbury), they get about a bit those branded darts don't they?
Quote from: Sh4166 on November 18, 2013, 08:34:32 PM
310 branded dart on the 20/21 (Bearwood - Oldbury), they get about a bit those branded darts don't they?
Wouldn't say it was unusual as arriva use their branded buses all over the place alot of the time.
More unusual to get a 310 branded Dart on the 310 ;)
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 18, 2013, 09:03:59 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on November 18, 2013, 08:34:32 PM
310 branded dart on the 20/21 (Bearwood - Oldbury), they get about a bit those branded darts don't they?
Wouldn't say it was unusual as arriva use their branded buses all over the place alot of the time.
More unusual to get a 310 branded Dart on the 310 ;)
Actually, the 310 Darts seem to be sticking mostly to the 310, more than you'd expect from Arriva's track record anyway.
Another white Pulsar has been seen in Telford today - registration YJ60GDX.
Quote from: arrivadays on November 24, 2013, 09:45:02 AM
Another white Pulsar has been seen in Telford today - registration YJ60GDX.
reported elsewhere to be numbered 5001on loan due to one of the Pulsars being damaged in recent rta.
35 branded 2152 working the 310 today.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 28, 2013, 04:15:46 PM
35 branded 2152 working the 310 today.
Got a pic which i will post later
Quote from: the trainbasher on November 28, 2013, 05:27:06 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 28, 2013, 04:15:46 PM
35 branded 2152 working the 310 today.
Got a pic which i will post later
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomsbusphotos/11106397823/in/photostream/
All of the 334 Arriva boards seemed to be ran by the DAF deckers today, I saw 4810, 4797 and another one while I was in Bilston
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/11119103164/
Branded 110 ominilink - 116, didn't notice it until I saw the rear.
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 30, 2013, 02:29:40 PM
Branded 110 ominilink - 116, didn't notice it until I saw the rear.
Branded 110 omnilink?
3806 (City Linx Branded), has 110 on the rear.
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 30, 2013, 04:25:10 PM
3806 (City Linx Branded), has 110 on the rear.
But also says 116, so not off route
3806 no longer has 116 on the rear just 110, same as some geminis now only carry 110.
Apparently both burton garage deckers have been on the 7 today does that constitute an unusual working?
Quote from: bob on November 30, 2013, 06:13:48 PM
Apparently both burton garage deckers have been on the 7 today does that constitute an unusual working?
That does seem to be their usual route now, the 1 had a Versa on it the one I got a pic off. The rest may have been W-SNR darts, both Geminis were on the 7 on Monday as well
The 7 can get realky busy at school times
2256 on the Sainsbury Free Bus in Sutton today. Mind you, just about anything can turn up on this route ..... ;D
DAF Decker 4798 on the 35 today
Quote from: John on December 06, 2013, 04:15:33 PM
DAF Decker 4798 on the 35 today
Rare spot indeed :)
Recently transferred 2227 today on 74/75 along woth 2736 and 3719
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 30, 2013, 04:25:10 PM
3806 (City Linx Branded), has 110 on the rear.
All of the OmniLinks were to have the CityLinx branding removed, they did most of them, but left a couple for some reason...
oh wasn't aware of that :) Thanks for the info AMD :)
Quote from: AMD on December 06, 2013, 06:25:08 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 06, 2013, 04:32:56 PM
Quote from: John on December 06, 2013, 04:15:33 PM
DAF Decker 4798 on the 35 today
Rare spot indeed :)
Not really - the vehicle off PM 756 finishes on 35s. The vehicle which covers AM 756 also works an odd trip from Aldridge back to Walsall on 35. Double deckers are allocated to this every school day.
Must be the 08.48 departure from Aldridge, only on schooldays in the Walsall guide. Will have to find it one day to get a good pic
My mate has told me that DAF decker 4801 has been on the 9 in Walsall today
Quote from: John on December 09, 2013, 04:09:54 PM
My mate has told me that DAF decker 4801 has been on the 9 in Walsall today
Must have been the same one I saw in Bentley around half 5.
Didn't see any punters on it though.
As I explained to my lift, Cannock passengers are screaming for double deckers while these are running empty from Wednesfield.
Moat cannock routes are ok with singles but staffords need deckers at certain times definitely!
3739 - 1?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/11368522554/in/photostream/
4807 on the 10 (Wolverhampton-Perton). Its rare that the ALX400's are out in service on Sundays
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 14, 2013, 04:00:33 PM
3739 - 1?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/11368522554/in/photostream/
Thats not all that unusual tbf the 1 needs 5 buses ( I think) and theres only 4 branded dafs, they often use a centro or a volvo on it to make up the fifth. Plus the dafs arent always all allocated to the route :)
Quote from: bob on December 15, 2013, 11:03:15 AM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 14, 2013, 04:00:33 PM
3739 - 1?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/11368522554/in/photostream/
Thats not all that unusual tbf the 1 needs 5 buses ( I think) and theres only 4 branded dafs, they often use a centro or a volvo on it to make up the fifth. Plus the dafs arent always all allocated to the route :)
Thanks Bob
Telford - 2374 on the 44 this evening.
4800 just left Walsall on the 9 first Double I've seen on there.
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 24, 2013, 11:37:46 AM
4800 just left Walsall on the 9 first Double I've seen on there.
Thanks Nathan. One I needed my first pic of :)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/11532412534/
They do appear on the 9 every now and again. This is the third time now I have heard of one on there, the first time I have seen one myself
Bit of a waste of a decker though same as using them on the 334. Neither route needs anything bigger than a dart mpd/enviro
No problem John;), hopefully next time one is on there Ill have my camera.
Also it may have been 3739 on the 33 today
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 24, 2013, 11:37:46 AM
4800 just left Walsall on the 9 first Double I've seen on there.
As Nathan said 4800 is on the 9 today. Saw it about 14:45 leaving Bradford Place. Plus 9 branded 2141 is on the 63 (Fordhouses-Bradmore) today
Quote from: John on November 30, 2013, 07:15:41 PM
Quote from: bob on November 30, 2013, 06:13:48 PM
Apparently both burton garage deckers have been on the 7 today does that constitute an unusual working?
That does seem to be their usual route now, the 1 had a Versa on it the one I got a pic off. The rest may have been W-SNR darts, both Geminis were on the 7 on Monday as well
The remaining two Burton deckers are on paper now allocated to the two duties on route 7. Routes 1 and 4 were initially allocated four Versas, but now Commanders seem to be the usual fayre, which seems sensible capacity wise.
-km not sure where to ask this but what routes are 2617 and 2634 on today?
Clocked 1 yesterday, Stafford branded pulsar 3731 on Pye Greens and 2262 Y262YBC on 74/75. Today 3719/3740 both on service 32
3489 on 55 in Telford today.
Unusual workings in Telford today (2/1/2014)
3745 and another Pulsar on 11/22
2937 on Tesco Free Bus
A 481-branded Versa on 33/55
2239 on 11/22
3489 on 33/55
3468 on 11/22
2270 on 33/55
Wednesfield ALX400 DAF DB250LF on service 516/7 today. Saw it in Lichfield St in W'ton but was too far away to I.D fleetnumber
Quote from: Nathan on January 02, 2014, 04:04:54 PM
Wednesfield ALX400 DAF BB250LF on service 516/7 today. Saw it in Lichfield St in W'ton but was too far away to I.D fleetnumber
I was about to post a similar bit of info, I was told there was one on 516/7 but no definite fleet number. Of course deckers will become common in Pattingham in a couple of weeks time.
Quote from: andyallen4014 on January 02, 2014, 04:18:34 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 02, 2014, 04:04:54 PM
Wednesfield ALX400 DAF BB250LF on service 516/7 today. Saw it in Lichfield St in W'ton but was too far away to I.D fleetnumber
I was about to post a similar bit of info, I was told there was one on 516/7 but no definite fleet number. Of course deckers will become common in Pattingham in a couple of weeks time.
I presume ALX400 DAFs will become common now alongside the East Lancs Tridents on the 10/A/B
That's right due to the school journeys on 10B
Quote from: Nathan on January 02, 2014, 04:04:54 PM
Wednesfield ALX400 DAF BB250LF on service 516/7 today. Saw it in Lichfield St in W'ton but was too far away to I.D fleetnumber
Before Christmas either a DAF SDB250 or a Trident was on there everyday.
Dependant on whether the 516/517 is a DAF or a Trident, a DAF on the 10 happens nearly everyday.
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on January 02, 2014, 10:45:31 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 02, 2014, 04:04:54 PM
Wednesfield ALX400 DAF BB250LF on service 516/7 today. Saw it in Lichfield St in W'ton but was too far away to I.D fleetnumber
Before Christmas either a DAF SDB250 or a Trident was on there everyday.
Dependant on whether the 516/517 is a DAF or a Trident, a DAF on the 10 happens nearly everyday.
Well 4854 was on the 19 today plus a board on the 19 goes onto a 10 in the afternoon.
Quote from: Nathan on January 02, 2014, 10:47:31 PM
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on January 02, 2014, 10:45:31 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 02, 2014, 04:04:54 PM
Wednesfield ALX400 DAF BB250LF on service 516/7 today. Saw it in Lichfield St in W'ton but was too far away to I.D fleetnumber
Before Christmas either a DAF SDB250 or a Trident was on there everyday.
Dependant on whether the 516/517 is a DAF or a Trident, a DAF on the 10 happens nearly everyday.
Well 4854 was on the 19 today plus a board on the 19 goes onto a 10 in the afternoon.
They all seem to now be treated as the same with allocation on any of the decker routes despite having a lame excuse for route branding for the 10. Unless it has now been removed before the changes?
No both Tridents 4851/4 both still have the current branding
Yes, partly due to the 10B having a school movement around Codsall.
Passed 4800 in Perton heading for Pattingham yesterday.
2239 on 33/55
2247 on 33/55
2273 on 33/55
2275 on 33/55
3468 on 33/55
Also saw a UWC (Unidentified Wright Commander), displaying "X" on the back desti box. Either it's had an LED failure, or is a "foreign" vehicle that hasn't had its display installed? If anybody can fill me in then that would be great :)
Quote from: arrivadays on January 06, 2014, 05:28:17 PM
2239 on 33/55
2247 on 33/55
2273 on 33/55
2275 on 33/55
3468 on 33/55
Also saw a UWC (Unidentified Wright Commander), displaying "X" on the back desti box. Either it's had an LED failure, or is a "foreign" vehicle that hasn't had its display installed? If anybody can fill me in then that would be great :)
Doesn't X stand for Out Of Service? It does at least at Wednesfield and Cannock Garages
I believe so - there were people on the bus, I should add. And it wasn't full, and it wasn't late...
They usually use the "X" when they haven't programmed the Telford destinations used in the area. I remember when we first got 2218 and 2223, they showed "Have a nice day"... Considering your getting on an Arriva bus doesn't make the day any more pleasant, despite the message ;)
Sometimes, if the Hannover is having a wobble, it will either display not in service (X) or "Arriva Midlands / Arriva"...
Quote from: arrivadays on January 06, 2014, 05:28:17 PM
2239 on 33/55
2247 on 33/55
2273 on 33/55
2275 on 33/55
3468 on 33/55
Also saw a UWC (Unidentified Wright Commander), displaying "X" on the back desti box. Either it's had an LED failure, or is a "foreign" vehicle that hasn't had its display installed? If anybody can fill me in then that would be great :)
Nice to see 3468 battling on, a cracking bus. Strange that they are withdrawing and scrapping B6BLE form the ex Tamworth batch but none from the Telford ones. I would have thought these were worth investment?
Trust me - the B6BLEs in Telford are horrific. I think the best one is 2637 - that's the only good one. Be glad when they've all been scrapped / withdrawn / sold.
There going to Hinckley
How Many B6BLES are heading for Hinckley in total
2554 on the 19 today all day. They do appear on a journey in the morning and the afternoon but this was an all day board always operated by DAF ALX400's or Full size darts
Both 4851/4 have been on the 19 today
Still In Midland's red livery Wednesfield Solo 2563 on route 9
Unusual visitor on the 10 today to Perton, Orange Optare Solo, assume 2564 but didn't see reg.
Quote from: DOC37V on January 15, 2014, 09:59:33 PM
Unusual visitor on the 10 today to Perton, Orange Optare Solo, assume 2564 but didn't see reg.
Since the Changes Single Deckers on the 10/A/B should now be pretty rare but i did notice that an ELC Bodied Trident was on the 19 today.
2629 running late on service 62 no blind so I'm guessing its on loan to Cannock
Blimey b6s arent that good on flat roads the 62 goes up and down quite a few hills lol can you imagine
2629 is a cannock bus, has been at cannock since before Christmas, she's had some work done to her and I believe that the hanover needs reprogramming
2629 has been working out of Stafford last couple of days to help out ailing fleet....
2346 S346YOG Engine Problems
2266 Y266YBC Gearbox
2627 V227KDA Diff
Not as ailing as last year when they had like 10 breakdowns in one day lol
Yeah i was the 7th that day. Took 2 hours for the fitters to show up and I was only at Rickerscote!
Quote from: staffsdave on January 18, 2014, 09:48:51 PM
2629 has been working out of Stafford last couple of days to help out ailing fleet....
2346 S346YOG Engine Problems
2266 Y266YBC Gearbox
2627 V227KDA Diff
Thats what happens when you have a fleet with a woeful age profile lol. Is S346 YOG the one with the engine from the withdrawn mpd? Or is it S345 YOG? Whichever one it is its awful...on it on the 74a once and it couldnt grt any power up, and it kept shaking and almost rocking back and forth when changing gears like the gearbox was confused or something lol. Oh well least staffords got the pleasure of some versas comin soon. ..
3774 on the 7E in Lichfield this morning.
MPD on the 68 today (Didn't catch the fleet number but I think it was a 51 plate) go in through Heath Town towards Wolverhampton about 15:30. Mainly ALX300 bodied B10BLE 360*/361* operate the daytime 68's
Not for much longer the alx300 are going. .expect to see more mpds lol
What is the usual allocation for the 25/6 bob? I don't know most of the CK allocations but. Imagine it gets basically anything that's thrown on there?
Quote from: Nathan on January 21, 2014, 06:50:13 PM
What is the usual allocation for the 25/6 bob? I don't know most of the CK allocations but. Imagine it gets basically anything that's thrown on there?
It will be pulsar 2s within the next few weeks sime are parked up at cannock branded ready to go
Pye greens get anything yea, mpds, sb120s often route 1 commanders , stafford pulsars, 61 plate pulsars, centros, w109 ewu usually on there, volvos and whenever deckers are on loan there allways put on.
Quote from: busman99 on January 21, 2014, 07:42:50 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 21, 2014, 06:50:13 PM
What is the usual allocation for the 25/6 bob? I don't know most of the CK allocations but. Imagine it gets basically anything that's thrown on there?
It will be pulsar 2s within the next few weeks sime are parked up at cannock branded ready to go
I was referring to the allocation now before the pulsars are allocated :) Thanks for the info Busman99 and Bob :)
Quote from: bob on January 21, 2014, 07:51:44 PM
Pye greens get anything yea, mpds, sb120s often route 1 commanders , stafford pulsars, 61 plate pulsars, centros, w109 ewu usually on there, volvos and whenever deckers are on loan there allways put on.
Two I saw today when I got of the train were 2701 (branded for the 2 route) and 3605
Referring to Nathans comments about the 68. MPD's appear every other day on that route, I noted three or four last week
Quote from: Ashley on January 22, 2014, 11:22:16 PM
Referring to Nathans comments about the 68. MPD's appear every other day on that route, I noted three or four last week
Must have slipped my mind then. There was a 74/5 branded VDL on there today
They've lost their O/S and N/s branding but think they forgot to do the rears. Think it's the same story for all of them or just a couple
O/S and N /S branding?
The 74/75 branding has been removed from some of the Pulsars if not all of them. However it has only been removed from the offside and nearside. Not the rear (braces himself for a rant)
I thought it was only the one that had the branding removed. Oh well maybe theyre about to have a respray
One was on the 76 tuesday, could have been the same one on the 68 yesterday
Today
B6BLE - 890
Quote from: Ashley on January 23, 2014, 07:50:59 PM
One was on the 76 tuesday, could have been the same one on the 68 yesterday
Today
B6BLE - 890
I think certain boards on the 68/70/6 interwork or at least thy used to
There was a pulsar in cannock on 74 still with full branding
I was quoting my own sightings from two seperate days. How does interworking come into it? The 2/70/76 interwork at night and possibly also on sundays. As for daytimes I think that may be possible as well, I think the 68 and 70 interwork from the Cannock end. I think the 76 is its own entity during the day
Quote from: Ashley on January 23, 2014, 08:07:55 PM
I was quoting my own sightings from two seperate days. How does interworking come into it? The 2/70/76 interwork at night and possibly also on sundays. As for daytimes I think that may be possible as well, I think the 68 and 70 interwork from the Cannock end. I think the 76 is its own entity during the day
Its just that on various occasions I have seen a particular bus operate all 3 routes on the same day. Also does the evening bus on the 68 come from another route as it is usually a bus that hasn't been on in the the daytime.
One unusual working from yesterday:
2142 on the 19. Saw pulling into Lichfield St about 16:25
I think daytime 70 /76 interwork. The 68 isnt involved
Plaxton Centro (Never caught the fleet number) and 2 branded 2701 on the 68 today. Got off 2701. 10 minutes ago coming home from Wolverhampton
The centro was 3738 :-), evening 68's are a seperate route, evening services on 70 comes off a 2
Quote from: arrivaaston on January 25, 2014, 11:04:31 PM
The centro was 3738 :-), evening 68's are a seperate route, evening services on 70 comes off a 2
So is the evening 68 a bus off the daytime service as numerous times I have seen the 20:36 from Lichfield Road in Wednesfied into Wolverhampton and it has been a different by to the daytime buses
2234 on 142/257 tonight, passed through Kingswinford around 19:15 towards Stour so presumably did the 19:40 142.
2412 on the 18 (Wolverhampton-Lyndale Circular) today instead of the usual ALX200 222*/223* darts. Caught it on the 10:38 departure from Stubby Lane in Wednesfield towards Wolverhampton
Does 4212 on the 1 or 4217 on the 2 in Burton count?
Sadly no Matt, both happen reguarly
Quote from: Ashley on February 01, 2014, 04:49:54 PM
Sadly no Matt, both happen reguarly
Lol, are the 1 & 2 routes that get anything then?
Quote from: Matt on February 01, 2014, 04:54:55 PM
Quote from: Ashley on February 01, 2014, 04:49:54 PM
Sadly no Matt, both happen reguarly
Lol, are the 1 & 2 routes that get anything then?
The Gemini's were first allocated to Burton for the 1 (The 4 ex-London ones 4015-8 that were branded for it).
They were then swapped for 4 B9TLs from Derby, 2 of which have returned. I usually find the remaining 2 on the 7 to Lichfield, but they do appear on any route now it seems
Midland Red 2412 was on the 10a today (wasn't the 10 now all deckers?) and little orange bread van 2564 was looking lost on the 19.
I think certain trips on the 10/19 do get operated by a solo or a dart as the deckers go off to do a school service
Quote from: arrivaaston on February 06, 2014, 10:04:00 PM
I think certain trips on the 10/19 do get operated by a solo or a dart as the deckers go off to do a school service
Not on the 10. The trip I saw it on is always a decker. The orange Solo is on the 19 ev very day mon-fri
W228 SNR (2228) - spent the day on 604
Quote from: Nathan on February 06, 2014, 10:45:28 PM
Quote from: arrivaaston on February 06, 2014, 10:04:00 PM
I think certain trips on the 10/19 do get operated by a solo or a dart as the deckers go off to do a school service
Not on the 10. The trip I saw it on is always a decker. The orange Solo is on the 19 ev very day mon-fri
I saw the orange Sainsbury Solo on the 35 while waiting for the Parrys coach in Walsall.
I'm on 2717 on 891 if it counts
Quote from: Matt on February 08, 2014, 11:57:07 AM
I'm on 2717 on 891 if it counts
They do sometimes appear but not regually :) Nice Spot ;) Mainly Versa's on the 891/2
It's happening more regularly tbh Matt sorry to say. I noted at least three last week
Quote from: Ashley on February 09, 2014, 09:51:22 AM
It's happening more regularly tbh Matt sorry to say. I noted at least three last week
OK thanks for that Ash :) I didn't realise they were appearing more regually
Anything could appear on 890/1/2. It's mostly those vile Versa things. But VDL's and DAF's appear. Unusual workings would be Darts, B6's, Commanders, L113's or Citaro's or Pulsar's
I think it's typically anything that will do the 892 that only goes from Telford to Shifnal, but it is mainly Versas on 891/892. I think 890 gets anything now.
Quote from: Ashley on February 10, 2014, 02:03:19 AM
Anything could appear on 890/1/2. It's mostly those vile Versa things. But VDL's and DAF's appear. Unusual workings would be Darts, B6's, Commanders, L113's or Citaro's or Pulsar's
There was an L113 on saturday
That's a good spot then Nathan. Was two SB120's today so I'm told on 891/2
DD - 116 ? Not sure if this happens everyday as it turned to a 110 upon entering bull street
110/116 interwork Nathan. B9TL's are the everyday allocation. Only unusual sighting on the brum routes would be a B6BLE
On another note
35 branded E200 - 50
2723 is on 55 today - back in Telford after a 3-year stay in Shrewsbury.
More unusual workings in Telford today:
2241 working 44
2708 working in Telford (not sure which service)
2746 on 44
Quote from: Ashley on February 12, 2014, 10:54:50 PM
110/116 interwork Nathan. B9TL's are the everyday allocation. Only unusual sighting on the brum routes would be a B6BLE
On another note
35 branded E200 - 50
thanks Ashley
2553 on the 334 (Saw about 15:25 in Bradford Place(
Newley repainted 2563 on the 18 (Wolverhampton-Lyndale Park) today (Usually a Dart)
2219 on 55 today... I thought it had left Telford?
Oh well - best MPD ever in my opinion :)
E200 - sunday 208/229?
Ashley, the enviros are normal on there on Sundays
I've never observed on a sunday but thanks for that
2719 on 23 today, and 2269 and 2270 on 55, alongside 3752.
EDIT: 2275 also seen on 55.
EDIT 2: Optare Versa seen on Tesco Shuttle (fleet number unidentified)
There's a decker on the Wednesfield 9, but I didn't get the number.
Unusual Workings in Telford (20/2):
2219 (T49 JJF) on 11/22
2269 (SK52 MLF) on 33/55
2637 (V237 KDA) on 23/24
3468 (N168 PUT) on 44
3744 (YJ59 BVF) on 481
3748 (YJ59 BVL) on 33/55
TF (outstationed to Bridgnorth) Step entrance Scania 3489 N 429 XRC in Wolverhampton at 1040 on route 890.
2219 on Tesco Shuttle, later to be placed on 33/55, while 3491 is placed on 33/55.
Quote from: fleetline6477 on February 21, 2014, 07:01:06 PM
TF (outstationed to Bridgnorth) Step entrance Scania 3489 N 429 XRC in Wolverhampton at 1040 on route 890.
Actually appeas quite regually nowadays. I've seen it on there most days this week
4801 on Wednesfield 9. Left Bradford Place at 14:57.
EDIT: 2110 (Y386 HKE) on the 10 to Perton this afternoon (Caught it on the 16:45 ex Wolverhampton). I didn't think any MPD's had transponders to activate the Perton Bus Link?
2234 - 604
4804 on the Wednesfield 9.
Optare Solo - 604 ] Not that unusual, not seen a Solo on the 604 for a while usually Darts
there was a 1 branded bus on the 70 earlier on this afternoon
Quote from: OH25 on March 01, 2014, 04:38:46 PM
there was a 1 branded bus on the 70 earlier on this afternoon
Quite common to get 1 branded buses on the W'ton routes such as the 68,70 and 76
4804 arrived in Bilston to unload passengers this afternoon, but saying it wasn't in service. On the 334, perhaps?
Quote from: Matt on March 01, 2014, 07:56:43 PM
4804 arrived in Bilston to unload passengers this afternoon, but saying it wasn't in service. On the 334, perhaps?
Yes it would have been Matt. No other Arriva routes in Bilston are suitable for double deckers
Quote from: Nathan on March 01, 2014, 08:00:37 PM
Quote from: Matt on March 01, 2014, 07:56:43 PM
4804 arrived in Bilston to unload passengers this afternoon, but saying it wasn't in service. On the 334, perhaps?
Yes it would have been Matt. No other Arriva routes in Bilston are suitable for double deckers
Why, low bridges?
Quote from: Matt on March 01, 2014, 08:03:47 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 01, 2014, 08:00:37 PM
Quote from: Matt on March 01, 2014, 07:56:43 PM
4804 arrived in Bilston to unload passengers this afternoon, but saying it wasn't in service. On the 334, perhaps?
Yes it would have been Matt. No other Arriva routes in Bilston are suitable for double deckers
Why, low bridges?
Low hanging tree's and/or very narrow roads. Plus the fact I saw 4804 on the 334 today
Unusual workings in Telford (04/03/14):
2270 / SK52MLJ on 33/55
2297 / BF52NZP on 44
2630 / V230KDA on 65/66
2633 / V233KDA on 44
2743 / LF02PLU on X5
2982 / YJ09MLE on 44
3717 / BF52OAD on 44
3 E200's were on Wolverhampton services today (2142, a 9 branded one and a 35 branded one)
Saw a plaxton centro doing the 15 boney hay to Lichfield today a bit big for that route
branded 310 bus on the 66 today
Quote from: OH25 on March 10, 2014, 08:58:11 PM
branded 310 bus on the 66 today
310 Darts wonder regually off route onto other Dart operated routes.
Route1 commander - 33
Route1 Commander - 2A
4851 (10 branded) - 19
Quote from: Nathan4775 on March 11, 2014, 01:34:55 PM
Route1 commander - 33
Route1 Commander - 2A
4851 (10 branded) - 19
4851/4 seem to be allocated the 19 now most days
The commanders arent really unusual workings lol theyre rarely on the 1 all together like they should be. 3704 is horrific needs scrapping!
Wednesfield Sainsbury's branded Solo on route 9.
11/3/13;
3701 (1 Branded) - 2A
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/13105359125/
Quote from: Nathan4775 on March 12, 2014, 02:31:14 PM
11/3/13;
3701 (1 Branded) - 2A
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/13105359125/
Think I saw that one yesterday.
Enviro 2145 on the 310
2268 - 1 Is this unusual ?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/13112451334/
4778 - 35A
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/13112243873/
Quote from: Nathan4775 on March 12, 2014, 08:32:05 PM
2268 - 1 Is this unusual ?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/13112451334/
4778 - 35A
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/13112243873/
4778 on the 35 isn't unusual. Goes onto/comes off a school hense a dd
Quote from: Nathan4775 on March 12, 2014, 08:32:05 PM
2268 - 1 Is this unusual ?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/13112451334/
4778 - 35A
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/13112243873/
No its not unusual for cannock to put a totally inadequate and inappropriately sized bus on an interurban service. Mpd on the 70 on sat too...
Quote from: bob on March 12, 2014, 09:56:01 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on March 12, 2014, 08:32:05 PM
2268 - 1 Is this unusual ?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/13112451334/
4778 - 35A
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/13112243873/
No its not unusual for cannock to put a totally inadequate and inappropriately sized bus on an interurban service. Mpd on the 70 on sat too...
Tbh even on Sundays the 70 shouldn't have MPD's on as on some occasions I have seen busy Sunday 70/6's using MPD's
Tonight:
Seen an ALX200 bodied Dart 'W-SNR '(22* or 223*) pass me on the Willenhall Rd operating a 545
Nothing is unusual at cannock to be honest, but today I've noted 2731 BU03HRD on 74/75, 3736 YJ57AZN 74/75, 3730 YJ57BRF 31 3757 YJ61FEG 32, 2268 SK52MLE 1 and last week 2269 SK52MLF was operating 891 Telford-Wolverhampton
Quote from: Nathan on March 12, 2014, 09:30:17 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on March 12, 2014, 08:32:05 PM
2268 - 1 Is this unusual ?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/13112451334/
4778 - 35A
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/13112243873/
4778 on the 35 isn't unusual. Goes onto/comes off a school hense a dd
I thought that only applied to AM journeys ? but thanks I know for next time
3707 today on 74/75
Route 1 bus on service 62 running late how did midland manage to put solo's on yet arriva stick big buses on
2107 on the 10 today. Usually an ALX400 bodied DAF DB250
379* (3797 or 3798) went past me about 18:55 on Lichfield Road heading towards Cannock on the 68. First 63 plate SB200 I've seen on there
Pulsar 3743 was on Tesco freebus in Telford today
2108 on the Sunday 10 today. Usually a DAF DB250LF with ALX400 bodywork
Quote from: Nathan on April 06, 2014, 12:14:21 PM
2108 on the Sunday 10 today. Usually a DAF DB250LF with ALX400 bodywork
MPD's could just now be the sunday 10 vehicle given 2107 was on last sunday and DB250's are overkill evenings and sundays
Some from yesterday
3755 - 12 (Telford)
2728 - 44 (Telford)
3606 - evening 33 (Cannock)
3759 - evening 25/26 (Cannock) not unusual but noteworthy as it's usually a 63 plate. Probably replaced the egg or public loo bus
One I'm not sure of
64/164 branded Centro - 81 (Telford)
Route 1 branded commander on the 62, 3797 today on 32
2154 (310 branded) - 229
Quote from: Nathan4775 on April 12, 2014, 06:29:26 PM
2154 (310 branded) - 229
Saw 2154 on the 223 earlier. Do the 223/9 interwork?
9/29 branded 3775 on the 7E in Lichfield this morning.
Quote from: Nathan4775 on April 12, 2014, 06:29:26 PM
2154 (310 branded) - 229
https://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/13822494855/
Scania - 890
310 branded Dart on 229's today as well
E200 (2142 I think) on the 57 today. Seen on Linthouse Lane in Wednesfield about 7:40am
Unusual workings in Telford today:
2247 (W247SNR) on 11/22
2504 (YJ07VRU) on 892
2739 (X783NWX) on Staff Shuttle (until transferred to 11/22)
2740 (CX04EHV) on X5
2974 (YJ09MKM) on 23/24
2978 (YJ09MKU) on Tesco Free Bus
2997 (YJ57EKE) on 44
3468 (N168PUT) on 33/55
3491 (N431XRC) on 11/22
3718 (BF52OAE) on 891
Wright Pulsar 2 on 11/22
I know this is off topic but why are Arriva using old vehicles I went on (3468 - N168 PUT) to Wolverhampton from Bridgnorth now forgive me but it's 18 now why is it still in use?? I mean I live in Kidderminster and when Diamond took over from First they got rid of all the 1996 Dart SLF's and other old vehicles so my point is why are Arriva still using old vehicles when they are not DDA compliant such as the N-reg Scania's?
Arriva's excuse would probably be "to cover for other buses". If these were MaxCi's, then that's fine, cos they're low floor (but how they sold 12 of them and thousands of Europeans I do not know).
¥estdrday;
3701 and 3702 (route 1 branded commander) - Out on cannock 33
I wondered where they were there were the two new unbranded pulsar and 3705/7 on the one. I wonder if allocation will be as bad as that if and when its upgraded to sapphire lol
Quote from: arrivadays on April 17, 2014, 09:24:04 PM
Arriva's excuse would probably be "to cover for other buses". If these were MaxCi's, then that's fine, cos they're low floor (but how they sold 12 of them and thousands of Europeans I do not know).
Yeah but thats all very well the N*** PUT Scania's should of been withdrawn 6 / 7 years ago as they are not DDA or "old people" compliant
I think the dead line is either 2014/2015.
Unusually these days, 4200 was on Tamworth local 4/5/7 this afternoon.
Hey!! Never put a good bus to rest :-) ;-) 3468 is a beast!!! If the old people don't like it then they can wait for the next lol
Unless it's the Tesco Shuttle (with only 1 bus running on it) ;)
I do like 3468 - absolutely fantastic. It would make everyone happier if it was a MaxCi, though. Low floor, and the same power and engine. Fun for the whole family!
It still baffles me how only 12 MaxCis were made, yet people preferred to buy hundreds of the step-entrance Europeans... Not saying it's bad, just don't really get it :/
Route 1 branded commander 3702 is today on 2's, pulsar2 3761 today on 74/75
Quote from: arrivaaston on April 23, 2014, 08:43:22 AM
Hey!! Never put a good bus to rest :-) ;-) 3468 is a beast!!! If the old people don't like it then they can wait for the next lol
Cracking bus. 3470 was even better but the floor was dodgy and they didn't fancy replacing it. They sent us 3468 instead, really solid buses. If it wasn't for the law change I reckon they would have been overhauled and would all still be going.
Quote from: andy on April 23, 2014, 11:59:33 AM
Quote from: arrivaaston on April 23, 2014, 08:43:22 AM
Hey!! Never put a good bus to rest :-) ;-) 3468 is a beast!!! If the old people don't like it then they can wait for the next lol
Cracking bus. 3470 was even better but the floor was dodgy and they didn't fancy replacing it. They sent us 3468 instead, really solid buses. If it wasn't for the law change I reckon they would have been overhauled and would all still be going.
I was on 3489 (N429 XRC) yesterday from Wolverhampton back to Bridgnorth and bloody hell what a tank and bone shaker that is!!
Quote from: Will on April 23, 2014, 12:05:13 PM
Quote from: andy on April 23, 2014, 11:59:33 AM
Quote from: arrivaaston on April 23, 2014, 08:43:22 AM
Hey!! Never put a good bus to rest :-) ;-) 3468 is a beast!!! If the old people don't like it then they can wait for the next lol
Cracking bus. 3470 was even better but the floor was dodgy and they didn't fancy replacing it. They sent us 3468 instead, really solid buses. If it wasn't for the law change I reckon they would have been overhauled and would all still be going.
I was on 3489 (N429 XRC) yesterday from Wolverhampton back to Bridgnorth and bloody hell what a tank and bone shaker that is!!
Only ever drove 3491 from that batch. Even though they were exactly the same buses I think that batch must have had a harder life as they didn't seem as smooth. The N-PUT's spent most of their life pottering about the Derbyshire villages which might explain it.
Quote from: andy on April 23, 2014, 11:59:33 AM
Quote from: arrivaaston on April 23, 2014, 08:43:22 AM
Hey!! Never put a good bus to rest :-) ;-) 3468 is a beast!!! If the old people don't like it then they can wait for the next lol
Cracking bus. 3470 was even better but the floor was dodgy and they didn't fancy replacing it. They sent us 3468 instead, really solid buses. If it wasn't for the law change I reckon they would have been overhauled and would all still be going.
So we could have possibly been given 3470? How come they brought 3468 back from the dead anyway?
Unusual workings in Telford:
2727 on 44
2737 on X5
3718 on 44
Wright Pulsar 2 on 11/22
Tamworth Gemini 4201 on the 116. Personally, I have not seen one on there before
Yesterday in Cannock, 2209 SN03LGC on 74/75, 2264 Y264YBC on 1, 3728 YJ57BUE on 60/825 and 3729 YJ57BPZ on 60/825
An MPD on the 74/75 is disgusting!
2617 was on the Tamworth 3 today. An extra bus because of the new X65 Lichfield express?
Is the X65 just a 765 without Whittington?
It's basically the x55
So the X65 will possibly kill the Central buses route off, then get withdrawn shortly after and well be back to status quo....the joys of capitalism lol
Quote from: bob on April 30, 2014, 07:51:41 PM
So the X65 will possibly kill the Central buses route off, then get withdrawn shortly after and well be back to status quo....the joys of capitalism lol
And don't forget the tamworth day saver zone would get changed to how it was
So 2617 has "returned home" if you will, 2292 BU51KWL on 70/76 today, 3617 W107EWU on 32 with 3736 YJ57AZN, route 1 commander 3702 FD52GGP on 31
So they put an mpd on the 70. Which wont cope with loadings and full sized buses on the 31/2. Oh and the debranded pulsar on the 2a another dead route. ARE THEY STUPID? ? lol
Quote from: bob on May 03, 2014, 11:32:14 AM
So they put an mpd on the 70. Which wont cope with loadings and full sized buses on the 31/2. Oh and the debranded pulsar on the 2a another dead route. ARE THEY STUPID? ? lol
With one of the 2 branded DAF's on the 68!
Seen that earlier. 68s generally not busy tho so it would cope despite looking stupid lol
Cannock seem to constantly be borrowing other garages buses
Today: 2277 74/75, 2735 60/825, 3707 60/825 3739 60/825 3729 62
2277 on 74/75 is terrible allocating
Unusually these days, 2616 was on the Tamworth 4/5/7 this morning.
9/29 branded 3772 on the 7 this evening in Lichfield
Thurmaston Solo 2523 was on the 104 today. I know the 104 does seem to be a dumping ground for most type of Thurmaston bus, but I've never seen a Solo on there before
Quote from: John on May 16, 2014, 08:56:26 PM
Thurmaston Solo 2523 was on the 104 today. I know the 104 does seem to be a dumping ground for most type of Thurmaston bus, but I've never seen a Solo on there before
It's supposed to operated by some of the ex London Alx400's and a white pulsar (9001).
Solos shouldn't really be on it as it's a busy service.
3606 was this morning on Pye Green Circulars and later on moved onto 32, 2345 S345YOG on 31
I know in visits to Leicester I've had I've seen all sorts on 104, P/RUL darts (before they left) 39**volvos, alx400 deckers and the 06/56 plate gemminis....... What do the FJ06*** commanders operate and what are the remaining 52 plate commanders left at Thurmaston?
You do still get the odd 06/56 plate gemini and an eclipse now and then on the 104 but it's mostly deckers.
The FJ06 plate commanders are mainly on the 53/53a but do crop up on the 29/29a or 126/127, we only have 3706 of the 52 plates left in Leicester now.
3706 was supposed to be moved to cannock the same time as the other two. If its in as bad a state as 3705 they can keep it ! 3707 isnt too bad though, being a refurbed one
Quote from: stuartn on May 16, 2014, 11:30:44 PM
Quote from: John on May 16, 2014, 08:56:26 PM
Thurmaston Solo 2523 was on the 104 today. I know the 104 does seem to be a dumping ground for most type of Thurmaston bus, but I've never seen a Solo on there before
It's supposed to operated by some of the ex London Alx400's and a white pulsar (9001).
Solos shouldn't really be on it as it's a busy service.
There were 4 at !east DAF deckers (all S-JUAs), 9001, and the Solo on there yesterday. They seemed to be running late as well as quite a few came in pairs
Quote from: John on May 17, 2014, 07:38:34 AM
Quote from: stuartn on May 16, 2014, 11:30:44 PM
Quote from: John on May 16, 2014, 08:56:26 PM
Thurmaston Solo 2523 was on the 104 today. I know the 104 does seem to be a dumping ground for most type of Thurmaston bus, but I've never seen a Solo on there before
It's supposed to operated by some of the ex London Alx400's and a white pulsar (9001).
Solos shouldn't really be on it as it's a busy service.
There were 4 at !east DAF deckers (all S-JUAs), 9001, and the Solo on there yesterday. They seemed to be running late as well as quite a few came in pairs
It's always running late or in bunches but the reduction to every 12 minutes was supposed to help it out, if anything it's made it worse, the service needs an additional bus adding and longer running time.
2345 on the 68 today
Quote from: bob on May 17, 2014, 10:10:10 AM
Quote from: Nathan on May 17, 2014, 09:32:57 AM
2345 on the 68 today
Thats not unusual lol
First time i've seen 2345 on the 68! Not many full length Plaxton Pointer Darts at Cannock are there though?
Although i suppose apart from the new 63 plates NOTHING at Cannock is rare
Im on 2345 now. Its knackered. The paints come off half the handrails as well. Im sure its the one that was re engined with a unit off a knackered v-kda MPD. It needs to go on a one way trip to the scrapman. It reeks of diesel as well. So much for improving their image ahaha
Quote from: bob on May 17, 2014, 12:51:20 PM
Im on 2345 now. Its knackered. The paints come off half the handrails as well. Im sure its the one that was re engined with a unit off a knackered v-kda MPD. It needs to go on a one way trip to the scrapman. It reeks of diesel as well. So much for improving their image ahaha
It has been replaced by 2732 (BU03 HRE)
Must've broke down then...as is to be expected for most of cannock's fleet. I was on w108 ewu earlier it sounds AWFUL ! Worse than W109 and thats saying something! None of nx's volvos sound anything like as bad as arrivas. They seem incapable of maintaining them properly. 108 has got terrible screeching brakes as well :-(. Its a shame cos properly looked after theyd be great buses
Quote from: bob on May 17, 2014, 05:56:02 PM
Must've broke down then...as is to be expected for most of cannock's fleet. I was on w108 ewu earlier it sounds AWFUL ! Worse than W109 and thats saying something! None of nx's volvos sound anything like as bad as arrivas. They seem incapable of maintaining them properly. 108 has got terrible screeching brakes as well :-(. Its a shame cos properly looked after theyd be great buses
It's probably the cooling fan, B10BLEs' fans tend to be very loud, never noticed it as such in other forms of the B10
No its not that, there is a fan sound on w109 but theres also a shriek ( sounds like a xbroken car fan belt) on w107/9 & w108 just sounds knackered. V608 dbc is incredibly slow too. W109 ewu prob holds the record for breakdown's lately. Volvos are normally reliable aren't they? W109 is the one that broke and got left in the bus station a few weeks ago
In Telford today:
2269 on 99
2712 on Staff Shuttle
Cadet on 891/892
2975 on 23/24
2976 on 23/24
2981 on 77
3489 on 33/55
Pulsar 2 on 12
2238 on the Sunday 10. Caught it on the 10:50 ex Wolverhampton.
First time i've seen one of the ALX200 darts on the Sunday 10. Tbh i personally haven't seen any of the ALX200 darts out on a Sunday at all
Another one back home! 2619 was on the Tamworth 3 today. Patrick.
3703-32 this evening, 3728-1, 3730 60/825, 3736 74/75, 3794 74/75, 3610 60/825, 2620 62 this morning but put on 1, 2736 on early Pye Greens but swapped for 3798
2274 FK52MML is today on 74/75
That will have to leave people behind if its on a peak trip
2620 on 68's today
2620 has been at Cannock for about 3 weeks now, 3795 Pye Green branded today on 60/825, 2345 Early Pye Greens but later moved onto 2A, 3707 15, 3617 on Tescos, 2291 on 1, 3703 on 74/75 of late this afternoon
2748 (LF02 PLZ) been on the 297 (Kidder-Bridgnorth) for the last couple of days
CX04EHW on 55 - I guess a new transfer to TF?
Unusual workings in Telford:
2269 on 33/55
2270 on 33/55
2274 on 33/55
2275 on 11/22
2713 on 65/66
2981 on 12
3468 on 33/55
3717 on 12
3718 on 12
3705 on the 74 in cannock earlier
2228 on 68's today. This doesn't appear on the 68 often from my observations.
2714 (Y354 UON) and 2974 (YJ09 MKM) both been on the 297 (Kidder-Bridgnorth) run today (29/05/14)
3701 FD52GGO on 74/75, 3702 FD52GGP on 68 and 2289 BU51KWJ on 74/75
There's a versa on the 297, dunno how unusual that is but looked odd
Crap allocation at cannock as usual! Bu51 kwj is not only one of cannocks worst and most unreliable buses it also would be unable to cope with loadings on the route. Have they got a clue?
Trident - 334
DB250 - all day 35
Quote from: Ashley on May 30, 2014, 08:26:49 PM
Trident - 334
DB250 - all day 35
The 10 must of been bursting to capacity then.....lol
After reading here & on the Facebook page, you get the feeling a 'unusual working' for Arriva is one that operates correctly with no problems!
Anyone else think the same? Lol
Hahaha lol
2741 on the 892 this afternoon @ Wolverhampton Bus Station at 17:37 approx
Wombourne Sainsbury's liveried Solo X 731 FPO on 214 in Merry Hill about 1415.
Temporarily numbered 9903 (Mercedes Citaro demonstrator) seen working on 765 on trial to Arriva Midlands.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/firstpmt/14181256098/in/photolist-nB9Dnu-nTm4az-nB9CGG-nVqxUa-nBaucn-nRAH3Y-nTvpsG-nTyrBY-nB9TnA-nTytAs-nRAFRu-nTvszd-nTysZN-nVqxuT-nVqwGk-nTkYxt-nTvobo-nBapq8-nTD4hP-nB9v9g (http://www.flickr.com/photos/firstpmt/14181256098/in/photolist-nB9Dnu-nTm4az-nB9CGG-nVqxUa-nBaucn-nRAH3Y-nTvpsG-nTyrBY-nB9TnA-nTytAs-nRAFRu-nTvszd-nTysZN-nVqxuT-nVqwGk-nTkYxt-nTvobo-nBapq8-nTD4hP-nB9v9g)
Not my photo.
2564 (the sainsbury's solo) - 142 last night
2154 (310 branded) - 257
EDIT - those were from last night
The 310 branded dart is booked as it comes off the 310.
The solo is off the 214
Route 1 branded commander 3704 on 2, Route 2 Branded cadet 2702 on 1, 74/75 branded ulsar 3728 On Pye Greens
Quote from: arrivaaston on June 09, 2014, 05:20:30 PM
Route 1 branded commander 3704 on 2, Route 2 Branded cadet 2702 on 1, 74/75 branded ulsar 3728 On Pye Greens
You missed one! Route 2 branded 2701 is on the 60/825
Horrendous allocating as usual lol. Will they ever get it right
Quote from: Bob on June 09, 2014, 09:20:46 PM
Horrendous allocating as usual lol. Will they ever get it right
When My website updates in about an hour you will see I have 4 photos of it
One when it was branded for the 33 - on the 75
One unbranded on the 32
One branded for the 2 on the 25
one branded for the 2 on the 860!
60 you mean and it would of done 5.35 off cannock wich only runs to Lichfield then private back to garrage
9904, an Optare Versa demonstrator, seen on X5.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/76008923@N04/14207201890/in/photolist-nDrDT4-nVPd7N-nVWbVD-nDrC9J-nDr1kZ-nVPYF9-nVKcQf-nXBCJM-nDf3bc-nTxQRY-nD74Cu-nVqxV1-nVdY69-nCRGVU-nUZVrB-nCNFj3-nCMUAN-nX4Eag-nV8B7Z-nCMHrS-nTKg74-nUZhe1-nULnTT-nStZDb-nWiGze-nC2T8y-nUefJz-nC2fM9-nBVFt3-nSn5N3-nWaiVc-nUi7pJ-nBQBhY-nBNSXw-nSfkgA-nU6QKj-nBFPc7-nTRNjx-nS6KVU-nS6KLA-nS3pGd-nBA7mD-nVR6WD-nBxtor-nVqxuT-nVqwGk-nB9TnA-nTvszd-nRAH3Y-nTysZN (http://www.flickr.com/photos/76008923@N04/14207201890/in/photolist-nDrDT4-nVPd7N-nVWbVD-nDrC9J-nDr1kZ-nVPYF9-nVKcQf-nXBCJM-nDf3bc-nTxQRY-nD74Cu-nVqxV1-nVdY69-nCRGVU-nUZVrB-nCNFj3-nCMUAN-nX4Eag-nV8B7Z-nCMHrS-nTKg74-nUZhe1-nULnTT-nStZDb-nWiGze-nC2T8y-nUefJz-nC2fM9-nBVFt3-nSn5N3-nWaiVc-nUi7pJ-nBQBhY-nBNSXw-nSfkgA-nU6QKj-nBFPc7-nTRNjx-nS6KVU-nS6KLA-nS3pGd-nBA7mD-nVR6WD-nBxtor-nVqxuT-nVqwGk-nB9TnA-nTvszd-nRAH3Y-nTysZN)
*Not my photo
Merc Citaro Euro VI 9903 was on the 15.30 Lichfield to Nuneaton 765 today
3795 Pye Green branded pulsar on 70 this afternoon unbranded 3798 on 60/825
Also a route 2 bus on 70 today. Totally inappropriate size vehicle for the route. A route 1 bus on 70 as well. I dont know why they're bothering to give them a sapphire service? The Street#####s will be running on every service other than the one theyre supposed to be on lol
1 branded Commander 3702 and 2228 both on the 68 today
2232 was on 70 and 2702 route 2 branded moved onto 32 today
Volvo b10ble 3606 V606DBC is today on 60/825
Unusual 74/75 branded pulsars 3727/28/29/31 have been on 74/75, quite rare to get the 4 branded ones
Yep. Wonder if theyll debrand them when mid staffs nhs trust is got rid of shortly? Plus they dont serve cannock hospital anymore...mind you the 1 has run from huntington since 2010 and its branded as the 2007 cannock to walsall route still lol
3759 on the 68 this afternoon.
2277 today on 60/825 as was 3798
According to a friend, a Solo is on 2 (Walsall to Cannock) today.
2544 is on 2 to walsall (On loan from Wardle I think) and 2553 is the Tesco free bus (On loand from Wednesfield), 2701 is on Pye Greens this afternoon, 3617 and 3619 are both on 74/75
There is a 273* (BU03 HR*) SB120 on 68's today
Quote from: Nathan on June 16, 2014, 05:33:10 PM
One of the BU03 B6BLE's is on 68's today
A BU03 b6ble?
Quote from: Nathan on June 16, 2014, 05:33:10 PM
There is a 273* (BU03 HR*) SB120 on 68's today
That's better!
Quote from: arrivaaston on June 16, 2014, 05:22:53 PM
2544 is on 2 to walsall (On loan from Wardle I think) and 2553 is the Tesco free bus (On loand from Wednesfield), 2701 is on Pye Greens this afternoon, 3617 and 3619 are both on 74/75
It is 2546 on the Tesco free bus, both 2546 and 2544 are on loan from Wednesfield, not Wardles.
Quote from: Matt on June 16, 2014, 05:36:55 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 16, 2014, 05:33:10 PM
One of the BU03 B6BLE's is on 68's today
A BU03 b6ble?
Quote from: Nathan on June 16, 2014, 05:33:10 PM
There is a 273* (BU03 HR*) SB120 on 68's today
That's better!
Yes i got confused for a moment when i posted that but after reading your post i remembered they are SB120's. Bus was 2736 btw
I got confused with 2546 because the reg plate is YN53 the same as 1 of the Wednesfield solos
Here is 2544 working the route 70 this morning
www.flickr.com/photos/81543024@N06/14258471697/
Andy
2544 on the 68 today. Caught it on the 17:35 departure ex Wolverhampton Stafford St.
First Solo to appear on the 68
2290 has been on 60/825 after 3739 broke down
2619 on 9 (Walsall to Lodge Farm).
Quote from: P419 EJW on June 25, 2014, 10:52:16 AM
2619 on 9 (Walsall to Lodge Farm).
I wonder if this is on loan from Tamworth or a transfer? I also wonder if they are going to transfer in some B6BLE's to get rid of older MPD's or Solo's at Wednesfield
2274 FK52MML 70, 2293 BU51KWK 70, 3707 BF52NZT 60/825, 3728 YJ57BUE 60/825, 3738 YJ57AZP 60/825, 3741 YJ57AZU 60/825, 3796 FL63*** on 1
2619 on 9 (Walsall to Lodge Farm) again today.
Are Omnilinks common on the 110 still? Saw 3808 on there this afternoon.
Quote from: Nathan on June 28, 2014, 05:08:35 PM
Are Omnilinks common on the 110 still? Saw 3808 on there this afternoon.
Yes they are, I see at least one on there most days (or a Citaro)
Quote from: John on June 28, 2014, 05:33:20 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 28, 2014, 05:08:35 PM
Are Omnilinks common on the 110 still? Saw 3808 on there this afternoon.
Yes they are, I see at least one on there most days (or a Citaro)
Cheers John :) Whenever I'm visiting Birmingham I never really see the Omnilinks on the 110 (Seen them on the 116)
2553 was on the 142 today.
2269 (SK52 MLF) on the 890 Wolvo - Bridgnorth tonight very odd I thought as it is usually a Cadet or a Versa...
Quote from: Will on July 02, 2014, 12:10:51 AM
2269 (SK52 MLF) on the 890 Wolvo - Bridgnorth tonight very odd I thought as it is usually a Cadet or a Versa...
Saw that yesterday afternoon departing Wolverhampton. Forgot about it till i saw this post ;)
3798 is today on 2's and was on all day yesterday, 3610 on 2A
3798 on the 68 today
2228 on the evening 74 to stafford. Cant believe they cant find a branded bus or even the unbranded pulsar to use on there? Understandable to have one or maybe two off in the day at a push, if theyre off road etc but what excuse is there for an evening? Lol
Merc demonstrator 9903 is on the Tamworth 780 today.
3743 on the 892
35 branded E200 on the 310 today
There was a couple of Omni links on the 110 on Tuesday, one towards Tamworth and the other towards Birmingham about 4 pm
also 9903 the new Merc was on the 115 going towards Tamworth, seen in Coleshill about 5 pm
Quote from: OH25 on July 10, 2014, 12:05:38 PM
There was a couple of Omni links on the 110 on Tuesday, one towards Tamworth and the other towards Birmingham about 4 pm
also 9903 the new Merc was on the 115 going towards Tamworth, seen in Coleshill about 5 pm
Omnilinks are common on the 110
Seen 6007 on the 55 in Telford today.
3745 on the 892 in Wolverhampton this afternoon
2274 FK52MML is today on 60/825
Thats a ridiculous allocation! Like there aren't enough full size single decker vehicles to use!
4796 on 9, seen it in Walsall Bradford Place at 13:36.
2234 on the 10B
Departed Wolverhampton at 14:45
Quote from: OH25 on July 19, 2014, 03:33:08 PM
2234 on the 10B
Departed Wolverhampton at 14:45
That's normal mate. The ALX200 Darts, Long Wheelbase Plaxton Pointer Darts and MPD's all appear on the 10
2276 SN53ESG is on 1 today and 2277 SN53ESO is on Pye Greens this afternoon
3798 on daytime 68's today.
3739 is on the evening 68. Seen in Wednesfield High St at 21:08. Centro's are rare on the evening service. Never seen one personally however i haven't seen it every day of course but i see it very often to know its usually an MPD or 61 plate Pulsar
Sometimes a commander as well...ive been on FT06 ZTE before and a 57 plater on the evening ones
Quote from: Bob on July 29, 2014, 11:48:56 PM
Sometimes a commander as well...ive been on FT06 ZTE before and a 57 plater on the evening ones
I've been on a 57 plate Commander on there. On a Saturday its usually a 2 branded bus so i was wondering whether the evening 68 comes off a daytime 2?
3760 and 3797 on the 68 today. I'm aboard 3760 as i type.
Blimey 3760 & 3797? Theyve opted for luxury lol
Quote from: Bob on July 30, 2014, 10:40:21 AM
Blimey 3760 & 3797? Theyve opted for luxury lol
Not bad buses actually.Two days on the trot they have allocated a 63 plate SB200 (3798 yesterday)
I think once new cross takes over cannock hospital and people have to go either direction for visiting/outpatients etc the 68 will be quite a bit busier and an important service.
Quote from: Bob on July 30, 2014, 11:27:41 AM
I think once new cross takes over cannock hospital and people have to go either direction for visiting/outpatients etc the 68 will be quite a bit busier and an important service.
Let's hope they get their act together at Cannock then!
Yesterday forgot to mention Dennis Dart MPD 2293 BU51KWK was on 74/75
Usial crap allocation then....
3010 (BJ12 YPV) on 12
3468 (N168 PUT) on 11/22
3489 (N429 XRC) on 33/55
2563 on the 223. Departed Dudley at 15:20. Only witness MPD's on there usually
There's an Enviro 200 on the 20/21 today
2541 on the 10. Seen departing Wolverhampton at 15:55
Haven't seen a Solo on there in ages
here is the said solo https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/14885740914/
Cannock: Dennis Dart MPD 2264 Y264YBC has been on 1's today where Route 1 branded commander 3702 FD52GGP has been on 2's
Quote from: Busman Jamie on August 11, 2014, 10:22:57 PM
Cannock: Dennis Dart MPD 2264 Y264YBC has been on 1's today where Route 1 branded commander 3702 FD52GGP has been on 2's
Queue Bob's moaning about crap allocation lol (Although tbh he does have a point sometimes ;))
Not too vad on the 1s a dart could poss cipe daytimes. The worst is when mpds are allocated to any 74/5. If rumour is correct we'll soon have deckers...still canny see it meself tho
Cadet on the 70 today
Not really unusual tho. Cadets turn up on anything and everything
3761 YJ61FEO today on 70 and route 1 branded commander 3703 FD52GGU is today on 68
Quote from: Busman Jamie on August 13, 2014, 01:21:12 PM
3761 YJ61FEO today on 70 and route 1 branded commander 3703 FD52GGU is today on 68
Both happen regularly
Optare Solo on the 217 on Tuesday (12/8/14) which is very unusual. Almost always a Dart or E200.
Thurmaston Dart 2237 was on the X3 yesterday. Never seen one on there before
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/14722209478
Quote from: John on August 14, 2014, 02:32:20 PM
Thurmaston Dart 2237 was on the X3 yesterday. Never seen one on there before
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/14722209478
Probably the SMBS spare covering for one of the deckers but South Wigston have had a major fleet shortage lately.
Did you happen to see the white VDL Pulsar 9001? It's seems to have completely vanished from Leicester.
Quote from: stuartn on August 14, 2014, 06:35:37 PM
Did you happen to see the white VDL Pulsar 9001? It's seems to have completely vanished from Leicester.
No I didn't see it yesterday
9001 may have returned to Arriva Coach And Bus, I'm guessing 2373 or 3910 has been repaired and back out in use
Commander - 890
2544 on the 10 today. First Solo on the Sunday service for a very long while
9 branded E200 way out of its patch down here near Merry Hill on the 217.
Quote from: s94 on August 18, 2014, 02:15:03 PM
9 branded E200 way out of its patch down here near Merry Hill on the 217.
2141
2228 worked late night 68's last night. Saw in Wednesfield at 21:10
Unusual workings in TF:
2707 on X5
2708 on Tesco Shuttle
3010 on 44
3491 on Staff Shuttle
378X (?) on 44
X5 is SY operated not TF but still unusual as its normaly the versas in charge, normaly when I go its a Park And Ride Versa
I remember when the X5 was always operated with a coach....how times have changed
Quote from: Busman Jamie on August 27, 2014, 11:47:14 AM
X5 is SY operated not TF but still unusual as its normaly the versas in charge, normaly when I go its a Park And Ride Versa
If you read it, I said in Telford (i.e. the area).
3010, a Citaro, on 892. Seen it in Wolverhampton Bus Station. Unusual? Sorry, I'm not good with Arriva. It's just that I normally see 892 to have Wright Cadet/B6BLEs. I just had a look on Tony's Arriva pictures page, 3010 appears to be Tamworth.
3010 is on loan for trials I think
Why would they trial it? Why not just use one of theirs?
3010 is Tamworths but currently on hire to Telford where Telfords 3779 is on hire to Tamworth
Yes.
It's 3779 that's on trial at Tamworth for comparison with previous Citaro loan vehicle 9903 by all accounts.
3010 is just taking its place at Telford (and now evidently its Bridgnorth outstation) for the duration. It was working into Stafford on Wednesday so it's getting around - it was loaned to Shrewsbury for the park and ride on a previous occasion!
3010 had also made an appearance at Cannock last year I phptographed her on 32
2714 on the 18 (Wolverhampton-Lyndale Park) today
And YJ59 BUU on 890 but this may become more normal now that it is Telford-operated.
2254 - X51
2715 on 10A. Is this unusual?
3010 on 891/892
Quote from: P419 EJW on September 06, 2014, 05:39:10 PM
2715 on 10A. Is this unusual?
Won't be now as more come in to join 2714, 2715 and 2722. These will be the usual back-up for DDs.
2715 was on the 10 yesterday too.
3779 on the 110, just left Erdington for City.
Quote from: 4Q on September 08, 2014, 11:13:52 AM
3779 on the 110, just left Erdington for City.
3779 is on loan from TF to TH, hence why it is on that route.
Why have tamworth borrowed it for? Trials ? Imagine a fleet of em there...bit of a come down from mercs !
Yes, it's for trials. There's a discussion on the previous page.
I've just seen 3779 on the 785 and 3811 on the Tamworth 6.
3002 on 55 yesterday.
Solo-217
A Streetlite noted on Telford - Wolverhampton this evening.
Blimey even the 891 isnt safe from them lol
Quote from: Bob on September 23, 2014, 08:47:12 PM
Blimey even the 891 isnt safe from them lol
Would have been on the 892. When did Telford have Streetlites just out of curiosity? Are they brand new or do they just stay away from the 891/2 hence why i have never seen one enter W'ton
Theres 3 they're new and only entered service last weekend. Think theyre to replace the 3 citaros. Talk about a come down. They don't even compare to mercs
Quote from: Nathan on September 23, 2014, 08:51:52 PM
Quote from: Bob on September 23, 2014, 08:47:12 PM
Blimey even the 891 isnt safe from them lol
Would have been on the 892. When did Telford have Streetlites just out of curiosity? Are they brand new or do they just stay away from the 891/2 hence why i have never seen one enter W'ton
They are recent deliveries and are to be put in general use rather than any specific route currently.
Are the Citaros still going as a result of the SLs arrival, even though there's no specific allocation.
Quote from: arrivadays on September 24, 2014, 07:58:43 PM
Are the Citaros still going as a result of the SLs arrival, even though there's no specific allocation.
3000, 3001 & 3002 are being exchanged with Tamworth B6's 2614 2617 & 2619...expect them to be there Sunday/Monday
I thought the b6s were on their way out? ??
Quote from: 2200 Bus on September 24, 2014, 11:23:11 PM
Quote from: arrivadays on September 24, 2014, 07:58:43 PM
Are the Citaros still going as a result of the SLs arrival, even though there's no specific allocation.
3000, 3001 & 3002 are being exchanged with Tamworth B6's 2614 2617 & 2619...expect them to be there Sunday/Monday
3000,1,2 were swapped for the Streetlites. The tamworth B6's are withdrawing some of Telford's B6's. Tamworth's E400's will enter service soon also.
Quote from: BN on September 25, 2014, 06:56:31 PM
Quote from: 2200 Bus on September 24, 2014, 11:23:11 PM
Quote from: arrivadays on September 24, 2014, 07:58:43 PM
Are the Citaros still going as a result of the SLs arrival, even though there's no specific allocation.
3000, 3001 & 3002 are being exchanged with Tamworth B6's 2614 2617 & 2619...expect them to be there Sunday/Monday
3000,1,2 were swapped for the Streetlites. The tamworth B6's are withdrawing some of Telford's B6's. Tamworth's E400's will enter service soon also.
4th of October Tamworths Enviros hit the road.
Does cannock get its b9tls on the 4th October?
Quote from: Bob on September 25, 2014, 08:12:48 PM
Does cannock get its b9tls on the 4th October?
Correct.
Are they being treated to a respray or anything or branding before entering use?
Tamworth are starting removing branding. I saw 4206 yesterday with "City Linx" removed, although you could clearly see where it had been.
Won't they just look a bit naff and shabby like that at their new homes ?
2619 was unusually on its old stamping ground - the Tamworth 4/5/7 - today, possibly for the last time. (For the record, 2613 was on its usual 6, 2614 on the 3 and 2617 on the 2)
Streetlite on the 892 this afternoon
Quote from: Bob on September 26, 2014, 09:56:09 AM
Won't they just look a bit naff and shabby like that at their new homes ?
They're not even there yet and they're already a disgrace!
I didn't say they were a disgrace! That title is reserved for most of cannocks current fleet....
YJ59 BUW on 890.
Unidentified Plaxton Centro on the 892 this afternoon in W'ton
3310 has been noted on the 481 today. Bet that was fun
Unusual workings in Telford today:
2728 (BF52 OAG) on 44
2738(?) (X781 NWX) on Tesco Shuttle
3468 (N168 PUT) on Staff Shuttle
3717 (BF52 OAD) on 891
4806 (X502 GGO) on 12
3734 (74/5branded) - on 33
Theyre starting to lose that branding now. 2 have so far. They just need a repaint now!
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 11, 2014, 02:52:07 PM
3731 (74/5branded) - on 33
https://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/15318987738/
Are double deckers on the 12 in Telford rare? :-\If so i saw a DAF/ALX on it earlier bout 1530
Being on any real service is quite a rare sight tbf.
Quote from: Bob on October 11, 2014, 03:40:56 PM
Theyre starting to lose that branding now. 2 have so far. They just need a repaint now!
3729 was out debranded on the 68 yesterday
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 11, 2014, 02:52:07 PM
3734 (74/5branded) - on 33
3734 is a Centro based at Shrewsbury
2714 on Arriva wednsfield 53/22
4202 on late 74's or will this become the norm. Did the 2030 ex Stafford
4810 on Wednesfield 9, caught departing Willenhall at 0922
Unusual sighting in Telford today:
3310 (FJ64 EVN) on 44
3717 (BF52 OAD) on 44
3733 (YJ57 AZF) on X5
4807 (X448 FGP) on 12
3728 (74/5 Branded) - Cannock 33
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 29, 2014, 06:36:35 PM
3728 (74/5 Branded) - Cannock 33
I thought someone had posted 3728 had been debranded
4715 has just left Wolverhampton on the 10A
3618 on 33/55 today.
Quote from: Tony on October 29, 2014, 10:16:24 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 29, 2014, 06:36:35 PM
3728 (74/5 Branded) - Cannock 33
I thought someone had posted 3728 had been debranded
3729/3730 are debranded looking through my recent photos
2290 - CK25/26
Doesn't the 2E go from walsall to Hednesford then hednesford to cannock to walsall/great wyrley? Ie shouldnt the 23.25 to great wyrley be the 2E that left walsall at 22.00 went to cannock on to Hednesford and back? Especially as its supposed to have sapphire buses on it
Quote from: Bob on November 02, 2014, 08:20:09 AM
Doesn't the 2E go from walsall to Hednesford then hednesford to cannock to walsall/great wyrley? Ie shouldnt the 23.25 to great wyrley be the 2E that left walsall at 22.00 went to cannock on to Hednesford and back? Especially as its supposed to have sapphire buses on it
Indeed, the last 2E to Great Wyrley couldn't work off a 70 which arrives at Cannock at 23:20 seeing as it starts at Hednesford at 23:18...
2563 on the Wednesfield 9. Unusual to see a Solo here.
Sapphire branded Streetlite 3305 seen in Dudley yesterday parked up. Was it in service or what?
S-JUA DAF decker on 530 this afternoon
Oooooh thatll be busy then
Quote from: ade on November 26, 2014, 07:26:52 PM
Sapphire branded Streetlite 3305 seen in Dudley yesterday parked up. Was it in service or what?
Centro partnership photo shoot.
E200 2142 on the 10/A/B
3310 was on the 891 this afternoon
And there was another S-JUA DAF ALX400 on the 530 today
MPD - 891/892
Forgot to post:- 6007 on the 297 (Tuesday, Dec 9th)
One of Cannock's Deckers was on the 6am 25 from Hednesford this morning, first time I have caught the first train of the day for ages, so not sure if it is normal, but seemed Strange seeing a decker in Hednesford at that time of the morning
They regularly get put on pye greens, seems a bit silly though
Completely forgot to post this:
4797 was on the 530 yesterday
EDIT:Its on again today. Seen on Pipers Row at 17:06
A double decker is on the 530 honestly don't know what type buti have the feeling its a MAN.
Either an ALX400/DAF or East Lanes DAF, probably
Quote from: NXDom on December 19, 2014, 08:06:39 AM
A double decker is on the 530 honestly don't know what type buti have the feeling its a MAN.
there is a double Decker on the 530 it a lowlander 4714
Quote from: NXDom on December 19, 2014, 08:06:39 AM
A double decker is on the 530 honestly don't know what type buti have the feeling its a MAN.
Dom its 4714 a DAF DB250 / East Lancs Lowlander, not sure how you landed on I being a MAN when it has the same engine as a Spectra
DAF SB120 / Wright Cadets 2714 and 2722 also on the 530
Has the 530 suddenly become a busy route? ????
Quote from: Ashley on December 19, 2014, 01:11:22 PM
Quote from: NXDom on December 19, 2014, 08:06:39 AM
A double decker is on the 530 honestly don't know what type buti have the feeling its a MAN.
Dom its 4714 a DAF DB250 / East Lancs Lowlander, not sure how you landed on I being a MAN when it has the same engine as a Spectra
DAF SB120 / Wright Cadets 2714 and 2722 also on the 530
Stab in the dark mate, hada strange memory of it having a man badge on the front haha
Quote from: NXDom on December 19, 2014, 01:29:46 PM
Quote from: Ashley on December 19, 2014, 01:11:22 PM
Quote from: NXDom on December 19, 2014, 08:06:39 AM
A double decker is on the 530 honestly don't know what type buti have the feeling its a MAN.
Dom its 4714 a DAF DB250 / East Lancs Lowlander, not sure how you landed on I being a MAN when it has the same engine as a Spectra
DAF SB120 / Wright Cadets 2714 and 2722 also on the 530
Stab in the dark mate, hada strange memory of it having a man badge on the front haha
Mind you, you can get Solos with DAF badges so anything's possible
Can you?
DD on the 530.
Cadet on the 8A/335 tonight
Dennis Dart 2135 V428DGT on the 297 Kidderminster-Bridgnorth service today. :)
2295 on the 10/A/B this afternoon
2143 & 2149 on 63/64/65 very rare to see to E200 on them routes on a Saturday
3618 on the 890 this afternoon.
Quote from: Nathan on December 22, 2014, 08:57:27 PM
3618 on the 890 this afternoon.
52 plate MPD (227*) on the 890 this afternoon
Quote from: Nathan on December 23, 2014, 09:37:50 PM
Quote from: Nathan on December 22, 2014, 08:57:27 PM
3618 on the 890 this afternoon.
52 plate MPD (227*) on the 890 this afternoon
The Versa on the 1240 Bridgnorth departure had no destination blinds today and only had a handwritten sign in the window. So perhaps this MPD was a replacement for that?
2984 still hasn't got a working destination blind just a piece of paper with dest written on - I'm currently on it going back to Bridgnorth from Telford
2712 - 481 (1910 ex Telford)
3468 - 11/22
Cadet and Pulsar - 12
Pulsar - 33/55 (YJ59BUP by day and 481 branded FL63DXO for the night)
Todays fun in Telford edited for accuracy
3617 in service in hanley with wardle
3743 (YJ59 BVB) operating the 891 (Telford - Wolvo) at 10:40 this morning usually a Versa very seldom have I seen a Pulsar operating on it
Quote from: Will on December 29, 2014, 07:23:55 PM
3743 (YJ59 BVB) operating the 891 (Telford - Wolvo) at 10:40 this morning usually a Versa very seldom have I seen a Pulsar operating on it
Starting to become more regular occurances
TF unusual working on Tuesday:
2719 on 23
3468 on 25
3489 on Staff Shuttle
3747 on 481
481-branded Pulsar on 33/55
4200 on the 110 this afternoon. First time I've seen a Gemini on there since the E400's arrived.
Quote from: Gareth on January 13, 2015, 03:43:49 PM
4200 on the 110 this afternoon. First time I've seen a Gemini on there since the E400's arrived.
4200 is the spare vehicle for the service
Quote from: Nathan on January 13, 2015, 04:00:31 PM
Quote from: Gareth on January 13, 2015, 03:43:49 PM
4200 on the 110 this afternoon. First time I've seen a Gemini on there since the E400's arrived.
4200 is the spare vehicle for the service
I've seen a Citaro on there in the last few days aswells so obviously some Enviro issues again.
2563 on 530
Wardles 17/1/14
4814 - 92
2636 - 19
2630 and 2238 - X51
Solo 2503 on 890
Optare Versa on the 297 today
Wright cadet on the 229 (2703 I think)
2722 on Wednsfield 50
3311 on 891
streetlite 3319 on 890
Apparently last week there was a double decker on the Cannock 2
4204 on Cannock70
Werent those deckers brought in exclusively for the 74/75 due to loading issues?
Quote from: Bob on February 03, 2015, 04:17:57 PM
Werent those deckers brought in exclusively for the 74/75 due to loading issues?
I'm aboard it now and tbh its good there is a decker on this trip
2702 on the X60...im mean seriously for f##s sake...on a peak time trip as well...
Here is 4204 on the 70 (Pictured on Cannock Rd, Fallings Park)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/trident_4609/16425166096/
The 70 can occasionally get busy. I just think its odd that cannock dont have one or two spare deckers as back up for ataffords
2149 on the Wednesfield 18
There's a B9 on the 110, left brum 18:15 ish, one of those "coming soon" branded ones
Quote from: Kevin on February 09, 2015, 06:23:11 PM
There's a B9 on the 110, left brum 18:15 ish, one of those "coming soon" branded ones
That would be 4200 thats the spare bus they've kept at TH in case 1 E400 is off road :)
Quote from: Rob2832 on February 09, 2015, 06:27:22 PM
Quote from: Kevin on February 09, 2015, 06:23:11 PM
There's a B9 on the 110, left brum 18:15 ish, one of those "coming soon" branded ones
That would be 4200 thats the spare bus they've kept at TH in case 1 E400 is off road :)
When are Tamworth finally going to rip the advert off 4200? Derby's 4224 quickly lost it soon after the Enviro400s entered service due to a repaint
Thursday 5th Feb
2617 - TF24 instead of an MPD
Wed 11th Feb
DLA - WD 27/28E normally MPD's
2701 on 57
Ive been informed that 3720 is on the Burton 9/9A today
3002-110 on 1020 birmingham-tamworth
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on February 20, 2015, 10:11:05 AM
3002-110 on 1020 birmingham-tamworth
Not unusual. Citaros are still regulars on the route to cover for the Sapphire Buses
Quote from: Nathan on February 20, 2015, 05:29:07 PM
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on February 20, 2015, 10:11:05 AM
3002-110 on 1020 birmingham-tamworth
Not unusual. Citaros are still regulars on the route to cover for the Sapphire Buses
They usually use the one Volvo they have left, but yeah 3007 is on today as well
4786 on WD9!
Quote from: Kevin on February 21, 2015, 02:01:06 PM
Quote from: Nathan on February 20, 2015, 05:29:07 PM
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on February 20, 2015, 10:11:05 AM
3002-110 on 1020 birmingham-tamworth
Not unusual. Citaros are still regulars on the route to cover for the Sapphire Buses
They usually use the one Volvo they have left, but yeah 3007 is on today as well
Have you got any timings? Cheers
Quote from: Kevin on February 21, 2015, 02:01:06 PM
Quote from: Nathan on February 20, 2015, 05:29:07 PM
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on February 20, 2015, 10:11:05 AM
3002-110 on 1020 birmingham-tamworth
Not unusual. Citaros are still regulars on the route to cover for the Sapphire Buses
They usually use the one Volvo they have left, but yeah 3007 is on today as well
4200 was having sapphire coming soon graphics removed yesterday (20/02/15)
3007 is on because 4200 is on AV1
Quote from: 2200 Bus on February 21, 2015, 03:31:37 PM
Quote from: Kevin on February 21, 2015, 02:01:06 PM
Quote from: Nathan on February 20, 2015, 05:29:07 PM
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on February 20, 2015, 10:11:05 AM
3002-110 on 1020 birmingham-tamworth
Not unusual. Citaros are still regulars on the route to cover for the Sapphire Buses
They usually use the one Volvo they have left, but yeah 3007 is on today as well
4200 was having sapphire coming soon graphics removed yesterday (20/02/15)
3007 is on because 4200 is on AV1
...now the thread isn't locked (what happened?)
Too late for timings but there was at least 3017 as well, and 4200 came back out for the late journeys caught it 21:00 from Erdington
@Matt the 1830 arrival into Stourbridge?
Telford
2713 on the '44'
481 branded 3781 on Tesco free bus
4800 on 62
3754 - X5
2297 - 88
2724 - 481/12
2722 on 825 this afternoon. Nice appropriate size bus for a busy service. ..not
ALX400 DAF DB250 4801 on Wednesfield 28E/27 tonight. Did the 19:23 off W'ton
Quote from: jack4325 on March 06, 2015, 01:49:12 PM
4800 on 62
This was allocated to the 62 board which covers peak 10s - won't happen often.
Quote from: Nathan on March 11, 2015, 08:39:46 PM
ALX400 DAF DB250 4801 on Wednesfield 28E/27 tonight. Did the 19:23 off W'ton
This evening cycle now runs off a daytime DD 10 board
2702 on Wednafield 57
6007 FN04AFJ Optare Solo on the 297 today
Nx 297?
Haha! It's easy to get confused
@Rhys S 😛 no but the 297 that
@Reece was referring to is as
@John said it is a service that runs from Bridgnorth to Kidderminster (via Alveley)
Cannock today
2715 Pye Green Circulars
2739 sapphire 2
3797 sapphire 1
3807 sapphire 2A
2739...jesus could they not find a better bus for it than that?
There's an Omnilink on the 110, seen Erdington six ways southbound 12:05
Streetlite - 890 - 1140 1340 1540 1740 ex Wolves
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on March 21, 2015, 01:11:49 PM
Streetlite - 890 - 1140 1340 1540 1740 ex Wolves
3340 is the bus
Photo on the main site later, It's one I managed to get before getting commandeered into driving a 126
2106 is on the 4A, seen on Pipers Row at 16:25.
2287 V207KDA Dennis Dart on the 297 Kidderminster - Bridgnorth this afternoon :)
2701 is on the 310! First time a Cadet has made on to there
Would a cadet on the 530 be unusual or not as one was on yesterday with a very pleasant Sikh driver in a suit
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 28, 2015, 02:50:40 PM
Would a cadet on the 530 be unusual or not as one was on yesterday with a very pleasant Sikh driver in a suit
Nope. Anything in garage appears including 2 Deckers.
2704 on WD62! Just departed Wton Bus Stn at 1229
3798 - 31
3773 and 3769 - 7
Edit
2212 - 8
Is an mpd on kidderminster 297 unusual?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 10, 2015, 12:08:01 PM
Is an mpd on kidderminster 297 unusual?
@Trident 4194 It depends on the reg of the MPD V reg is rare but 52 reg is not.
Quote from: Reece on April 10, 2015, 12:45:40 PM
@Trident 4194 It depends on the reg of the MPD V reg is rare but 52 reg is not.
It was euro 3 if that helps
4203 on cannock 70
Quote from: jack4325 on April 10, 2015, 06:09:05 PM
4203 on cannock 70
Bugger! Beat me to it. That clarifies the fleet no. though as I only saw it from a distance turning into Lichfield St
Quote from: Nathan on April 10, 2015, 06:40:59 PM
Bugger! Beat me to it. That clarifies the fleet no. though as I only saw it from a distance turning into Lichfield St
Was the 1615 off wolves
4204 was on the PG's yesterday so must have been 2 singles on Staffords
3810 was on evening PG's/70/76. Normally these dont come off daytime X60's
3798 daytime 33's
4786 is on the 64!!! Currently sat at stand in Wton Bus Stn
A decker has just gone out on CK70, around 0812
Quote from: Alex on April 11, 2015, 08:07:42 AM
4786 is on the 64!!! Currently sat at stand in Wton Bus Stn
A decker has just gone out on CK70, around 0812
Something tells me that is on a 10 running card. Could be wrong though.
Quote from: Nathan on April 11, 2015, 08:17:44 AM
Something tells me that is on a 10 running card. Could be wrong though.
does the first 64 of the day then goes onto the 10
Quote from: Alex on April 11, 2015, 08:07:42 AM
4786 is on the 64!!! Currently sat at stand in Wton Bus Stn
A decker has just gone out on CK70, around 0812
theres anothor decker on the 70 today one parked up on stafford street
Quote from: jack4325 on April 11, 2015, 08:53:23 AM
theres anothor decker on the 70 today one parked up on stafford street
Quote from: Rhys S on April 11, 2015, 09:28:46 AM
What type
The only deckers at Cannock are B9TL Gemini
Maybe theyll become regulars on there as two deckers could potentially be made redundant from 74/75 shortly, cant see them used on the shortened 75. Unless market day trips are busy
3342 on 890 in wolves now
About 4.55 pm today a sapphire branded streetlite passed us in delta way displaying '2A Cheslyn Hay Memorial' Never seen this before is it a regular short working?
4203 on 70. I saw about 5 people on there. Seen two minutes ago on Lichfield Street, Wolverhampton.
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on April 13, 2015, 04:07:22 PM
4203 on 70. I saw about 5 people on there. Seen two minutes ago on Lichfield Street, Wolverhampton.
Probably as most get off in Stafford St.
The deckers are appearing regularly on the 70 or 70/76 interworked trips. Leaving the passengers on the busy staffords to suffer commanders or darts/cadets. The 74/5 were converted to double deckers for a reason!
There are actually two deckers apparently on 70s today
270* cadet on wednesfield 13!!!!
@Trident 4194 as in the 13 that goes to merry hell 13?
Quote from: Bob on April 13, 2015, 05:05:30 PM
The deckers are appearing regularly on the 70 or 70/76 interworked trips. Leaving the passengers on the busy staffords to suffer commanders or darts/cadets. The 74/5 were converted to double deckers for a reason!
They aren't doing the 76's. I don't know what it is but deckers are banned off the new 54 service when it starts.
Quote from: Nathan on April 13, 2015, 06:57:14 PM
They aren't doing the 76's. I don't know what it is but deckers are banned off the new 54 service when it starts.
Any low bridges?
2702on WED 63/64/65
2135 V428DGT Dennis Dart MPD on the 297 Kidderminster - Bridgnorth this afternoon.
2266 on 890, just leaving Wton Bus Stn at 1801
2268 on the 4A
3733 on 28E/27 tonight. Seen on Wolverhampton Road (Just after New Cross Hospital) about 20:32
This bus comes off the 10 so is usually a DB250.
Centro on 8A/335 tonight
2289 on the 825 610 ish departure from Lichfield
Thats an absolute nail of a bus
3332 on Arriva telford 890 44 branded
2159 and 2261 both put in an appearance on the last day of the 4A
R.I.P the 4A, another major flop
2702 on 208 tonight seen at merry hill at 7pm
@Chris2301 that's come off the 229. Should be back in merry hill later
3343 - FJ64JYP - Wright StreetLite was on the 890 this Afternoon.
2706 on the 27/28E circuit today. Caught it on the 09:25 28E from Wolverhampton.
Usually MPD's.
Quote from: Matt on May 04, 2015, 03:22:21 PM
Beast 2701 on 142/257!!
On the 63/4/5 circuit today. Usually MPD's
2701 on the 63/4/5 circuit again today.
2147 was on 63/64/65. Now on the 76
Cadet on the 82 tonight
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on May 07, 2015, 11:17:55 PM
2147 was on 63/64/65. Now on the 76
Cadet on the 82 tonight
Does the 82 interwork with the 229 at night? If so, I would presume this comes off a daytime 229?
Quote from: Nathan on May 07, 2015, 11:19:39 PM
Does the 82 interwork with the 229 at night? If so, I would presume this comes off a daytime 229?
Not 229 anymore, it stopped when the 545 got withdrawn, iirc. According to Alex's post, the 82 interworks with the 208 now. (See here (http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=3677.msg136835#msg136835).)
But comes off daytime 229s
Quote from: P419 EJW on May 07, 2015, 11:35:51 PM
Not 229 anymore, it stopped when the 545 got withdrawn, iirc. According to Alex's post, the 82 interworks with the 208 now. (See here (http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=3677.msg136835#msg136835).)
Wrong - 82, 208 and 229 still interwork in a cycle
3321 on 891
2104 JJZ 5278 Dennis Dart on the 297 Kidderminster - Bridgnorth this evening
Quote from: Matt on May 16, 2015, 10:04:05 PM
DAF decker 4800 on the 530 is this unusual?
At this time of night, yes. That was on the 10 earlier!
Its mad allocating a decker on the 530 at any time!
Quote from: Bob on May 17, 2015, 02:24:39 AM
Its mad allocating a decker on the 530 at any time!
Which is one of the closest routes by the garage for changeovers, mad.
Theyve had deckers on all day work on there loads of times carrying about three passengers per trip if that! Lol.
4797 on 27, seen it in Wolverhampton Bus Station at 20:47. First time for me to see a double decker on the 27.
Quote from: P419 EJW on May 20, 2015, 08:48:37 PM
4797 on 27, seen it in Wolverhampton Bus Station at 20:47. First time for me to see a double decker on the 27.
@P419 EJW, One of the buses on the evening 27/28E circuit comes off a 10 :) If a decker is on this board then one will most likely get onto the 27
Quote from: Nathan on May 20, 2015, 08:53:05 PM
@P419 EJW, One of the buses on the evening 27/28E circuit comes off a 10 :) If a decker is on this board then one will most likely get onto the 27 :)
Ahh, alright. Thanks for the info,
@Nathan. :)
2705 is on 27/28E duties, will do the 18xx 27 off Dudley, 1923 28E off Wolverhampton and 2005 28E off Willenhall
2703 is on 326, normally darts
Quote from: Dom on May 30, 2015, 11:23:11 AM
2703 is on 326, normally darts
Might become a more regular occurance.
2104 JJZ 5278 Dennis Dart on the 297 Kidderminster - Bridgnorth yesterday evening
A hellfire noteworthy I read about on Facebook from today.
4810 on the 481
A decker on the 481????
4810 0945 TF-SD 1115 SD-TF. 3782 had door issues. 3320 replaced the decker
2701 on the 208 this evening. Makes a change to the usual Plaxton bodied stuff
Quote from: ade on June 04, 2015, 11:07:57 PM
2701 on the 208 this evening. Makes a change to the usual Plaxton bodied stuff
Normal. Comes off a daytime 229 running card.
Citaro 3004 is on Cannock's 68 currently on Wednesfield Road into Wolverhampton.
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on June 05, 2015, 03:42:34 PM
Citaro 3004 is on Cannock's 68 currently on Wednesfield Road into Wolverhampton.
3004: https://www.flickr.com/photos/127701512@N04/18308313140/in/dateposted-public/
Quote from: staffsdave on June 04, 2015, 10:01:09 PM
4810 0945 TF-SD 1115 SD-TF. 3782 had door issues. 3320 replaced the decker
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dwbphotos/18311745300/
didnt get fleet number but centro on 890
Quote from: jack4325 on June 09, 2015, 11:43:03 AM
didnt get fleet number but centro on 890
Centros on some routes in Bridgnorth are not a good idea
see http://www.shropshirestar.com/news/2015/06/09/hold-ups-in-bridgnorth-as-bus-gets-stuck/
Quote from: Tony on June 09, 2015, 12:04:07 PM
Centros on some routes in Bridgnorth are not a good idea
see http://www.shropshirestar.com/news/2015/06/09/hold-ups-in-bridgnorth-as-bus-gets-stuck/
It turns out that Centro was operating the 101 Bridgnorth Town Service when it got stuck.
Hi
The Centro in the above article was doing a road test for a new route. It was not in service.
The article is wrong in that the bus was not actually stuck, but as there was a risk of damage an engineer was called to raise the airbags in order to reverse it out without worry.
The area was cleared within 30 minutes.
Tosher
Quote from: Tosher on June 09, 2015, 06:31:59 PM
Hi
The Centro in the above article was doing a road test for a new route. It was not in service.
The article is wrong in that the bus was not actually stuck, but as there was a risk of damage an engineer was called to raise the airbags in order to reverse it out without worry.
The area was cleared within 30 minutes.
Tosher
And was that route test for the new 90 service Shrewsbury - Bridgnorth - Wolverhampton starting from the 19th July?
Merc on the 110 heading north through Erdington 12:35
Think it was 3013 but for some reason I'm now thinking 3016
2104, JJZ 5278, on the 890. Seen it in Wolverhampton Bus Station at 17:55.
@P419 EJW could it be a Wednesfield working on there as I know Wednesfield buses have been spotted on the 297 which is in bridgenorth?
Quote from: the trainbasher on June 11, 2015, 06:55:38 PM
@P419 EJW could it be a Wednesfield working on there as I know Wednesfield buses have been spotted on the 297 which is in bridgenorth?
I wish I could give you an answer to that but my knowledge about Arriva is really rubbish. :( I just saw that bus and noted it as unusual. :)
Quote from: the trainbasher on June 11, 2015, 06:55:38 PM
@P419 EJW could it be a Wednesfield working on there as I know Wednesfield buses have been spotted on the 297 which is in bridgenorth?
Wednesfield do not have any running cards on the 890.
2104 is based at Telford, not Wednesfield
2702 on ARR 63/64/65 will do last 65 of wolves
DB250 4806 worked the 12:00 and 12:30 X92's from Telford to Shifnal today.
Tosher
Tamworth
4200 - 3A
Citario - 110
Cannock
2741 - X60
2731 on the 10 (Unusual?)
Quote from: Dom on June 14, 2015, 09:55:00 AM
2731 on the 10 (Unusual?)
It has been Darts in recent weeks but as a transponder fitted bus, i suspect this will be the regular sunday bus from now on.
2704 is on 27/28E circuit.
Will do the 16:45 27 ex Wolverhampton, 17:35 27 ex Dudley, 18:25 28E ex Wolverhampton, 19:05 28E ex Willenhall, 19:45 27 ex Wolverhampton, 20:35 27 ex Dudley, 21:25 28E ex Wolverhampton & 22:05 28E ex Willenhall
https://www.flickr.com/photos/127701512@N04/
My friend told me that 3004 is on 2A today.
An MX61 plate pulsar on the 74 today. Noteworthy because these rarely ever appear on anything other than the X60
Quote from: Bob on June 18, 2015, 09:08:29 PM
An MX61 plate pulsar on the 74 today. Noteworthy because these rarely ever appear on anything other than the X60
Forgot to say there was a 380* on the 68 last week (daytime) and Pye Green branded 3795 on the evening service a few nights back.
Dont quote me on it but I think there was a pye green pulsar on the 33. Maybe it was put on the replace BU03 HRK
Quote from: Bob on June 18, 2015, 09:08:29 PM
An MX61 plate pulsar on the 74 today. Noteworthy because these rarely ever appear on anything other than the X60
Was 3807.....
Quote from: P419 EJW on June 17, 2015, 09:11:40 AM
My friend told me that 3004 is on 2A today.
It was, I saw it in Cannock at approximately 14:30
2702 on ARR50 normaly darts
Ones I spotted Friday
PG branded 2
PG branded 33
MX61*** 1
MX61*** 33
3798 2
Today 3004 33
Dunno If these are normal or noteworthy on a Sunday (yesterday)
2367 - 825
Various Commanders - 74/75
Where were the deckers if there were commanders on the 74/75?
Quote from: Bob on June 22, 2015, 09:04:34 PM
Where were the deckers if there were commanders on the 74/75?
Deckers are not used on Sunday's
Some rare workings in Telford today: (At least, they were the last time i was there) (Courtesy of
@jack4325 )
3321 on 99/99A's https://www.flickr.com/photos/128628285@N06/18862966868/in/dateposted/
3319 on 25/892 https://www.flickr.com/photos/128628285@N06/19022289296/in/photostream/ and
https://www.flickr.com/photos/128628285@N06/19055650361/in/photostream/
2267 on 33/33A's https://www.flickr.com/photos/128628285@N06/18866242979/in/photostream/
Quote from: Nathan on June 22, 2015, 09:05:20 PM
Deckers are not used on Sunday's
didnt notice the sunday bit. My bad
2702 on ARR57
*VERY RARE* 3311 - FJ64 EVP on the 101 Bridgnorth Town Circular!! :D
Quote from: Reece on June 24, 2015, 05:51:15 PM
*VERY RARE* 3311 - FJ64 EVP on the 101 Bridgnorth Town Circular!! :D
https://www.flickr.com/photos/westmidlandsbusenthusiast/18506379674/in/dateposted/
2702 is on the 604
2702 is on WD62A's
Dont know if this is in the right thread but
29.06.15
3808 on the 70
2703 on the 604 today
2383 reported elsewhere on the 825 today but failed with door sensor issues.
Various Darts have failed on the 825 on several occasions during the last few months. Staffords not got the best fleet really. Those old darts are only barely ok for locals surely?
2702 76
3720 34
PG branded on evening 33
4200 on the 116 in Birmingham at 1630 today. The first time I have seen a double decker on the 116 for a long time.
Reported elsewhere that a Centro is on the 481.
4800 on ARR 530
2731 is on the 27
*VERY RARE* 3324 - FJ64EUK on the 297 Kidderminster - Bridgnorth :D
63 plate leather seated Pulsar (ex 481 branded) on the 891 today.
Quote from: Nathan on July 15, 2015, 05:49:33 PM
63 plate leather seated Pulsar (ex 481 branded) on the 891 today.
Fleetnumber 3781
3328 is the final 101 today!
3736 on the 481. Seen in Telford Bus Station at 13:10.
*ULTRA RARE* 3746 - YJ59BVH Pulsar made a amazingly RARE appearance on the 297 Bridgnorth - Kidderminster this evening!! With some brilliant THRASHING on the 297 route. :D
3808 and 3809 on 68's today.
2209 SN03LGC today on x60, 3701 FD52GGO today on 34
Quote from: Busman Jamie on July 20, 2015, 06:15:49 PM
2209 SN03LGC today on x60, 3701 FD52GGO today on 34
MPD 2274 also on the X60, doing the one I see walking home which was the Citaro most days last week
Mpds on a route like the X60 while the two remaining 61 plate pulsars are on the 68, a route far more suited to darts. Great allocating there......
2701 or 2702 on 13 today
Wednesfield's 2149 is on the 50 today.
E200's on the 18 (Wolverhampton-Lyndale Park) and 57(Wolverhampton-Bilston) today
think it was e200 2149 :), 2210 on 76
2702- 12
citaro 3003 2A, same was on 31 yesterday, 2745 was on pg this morning with 3741
2702 is on the 57
3003 2
2746 x60
Cadets are semi regulars on the X60 i often see em on way home from work. Imagine how s##t Cannocks efforts look on it compared to Tamworths fleet. MPDs x2 last week. I mean ffs lol
3012|110|Sapphire E400's
Left Sutton at 1407 for Tamworth
How is this unusual?
Streetlite on 890 on Tuesday
Centro on the 890 today
Quote from: Dennis on July 29, 2015, 09:07:22 PM
How is this unusual?
Because Citaro's are noteworthy on the 110.....
It is a sapphire route so it should have Sapphire E400's (Or 4200 as the substitute)
Oh right. The post said "Sapphire E400" not Citaro
Quote from: Dennis on July 30, 2015, 07:30:54 AM
Oh right. The post said "Sapphire E400" not Citaro
The Sapphire E400 is what should be on there, the fleetnumber is a Citaro
2701 on ARR 62A
3797 on ARRIVA Cannock 68 seen going up broad street at 17.30
4200 110
Quote from: RS on August 08, 2015, 09:30:40 PM
4200 110
Not unusual 4200 is the spare bus incase there are no sapphire buses avaible for the 110.
There was a pulsar on the 1
2988 was on the B2 in Walsall
*VERY RARE* 3319 - FJ64ETU on the 297 Kidderminster - Bridgnorth this evening :D
Quote from: the trainbasher on August 08, 2015, 09:42:30 PM
There was a pulsar on the 1
2988 was on the B2 in Walsall
This was sighted in Wolverhampton earlier in the week displaying B2.
Quote from: Nathan on August 08, 2015, 11:00:08 PM
This was sighted in Wolverhampton earlier in the week displaying B2.
Saw it on the B2 on Lichfield Street at 2320.
Quote from: Nathan on August 08, 2015, 11:00:08 PM
This was sighted in Wolverhampton earlier in the week displaying B2.
Yes gents 2988 is dedicated to the new Boots contract.
2734 on the 57 (Wolverhampton-Bilston) today.
One of the Wright B3's on the 17 today. Must be one of the largest buses ever on that route. Lol
*VERY RARE* A Plaxton Centro broke new ground on the 297 Kidderminster - Bridgnorth first thing this morning the Centro in question being 3738 - YJ57AZP.
4200 on the 110
Leather seated Pulsar 3779 on the 8/8A today.
WE 2701 on the 76..
Yesterday 3752 - YJ59BUP was on the 297 Kidderminster - Bridgnorth
2701 on WED 63/64/65
3489 is on the 9! Did the 1445 ex Wolverhampton
3010 on 110, just turned left to A38 Expressway from the Lancaster Circus Queensway roundabout, to Tamworth at 16:24.
2701 on 63/64/65
2719 on 310 usually darts
2701 was on the 17 yesterday evening
Decker on the evening 60 yesterday! That is massively rare
2. mpds 60 this evening
2274 61/62 all day
Decker on the pre greens this morning.
sighted 2988 on tesco free bus in rugeley
3798 on the 3 Cannock-Walsall.
StreetLite 3302 on the 116
Quote from: Trident4583 on October 26, 2015, 01:21:50 PM
which way and times
it left Birmingham about the same time I did on a 914, around 11.10am
3302 was swapped onto 110s as I passed it by Good Hope this afternoon
2150 on the 71A this afternoon
Quote from: John on October 26, 2015, 07:19:03 PM
3302 was swapped onto 110s as I passed it by Good Hope this afternoon
Worked 2115 from Tamworth. I must say it sounded awesome!
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on October 27, 2015, 12:20:27 AM
Worked 2115 from Tamworth. I must say it sounded awesome!
That was me driving ☺
3739 on the 8 usually pulsars
*RARE* 2147 - MX12JXJ E200 is on the 297 Kidderminster - Bridgnorth today :D
3013 on the 110. the driver just stuck his finger up at me.
2705 on 63/64/65
Dart on the X68 with an Enviro on the 57.
3705 on the 76
2209/2274 plus a Cadet on 9/25/26/74/75 circuit last night.
mpds appear on that often now
3468 i think Was on the 9 this afternoon
Quote from: 900 on November 09, 2015, 04:53:04 PM
3468 i think Was on the 9 this afternoon
Yes, would have been 16:00 from Wolverhampton Bus Station.
Quote from: 900 on November 09, 2015, 04:53:04 PM
3468 i think Was on the 9 this afternoon
Is that very unusual? Where is this bus usually found?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 09, 2015, 05:42:50 PM
Is that very unusual? Where is this bus usually found?
YES very unusual, although happened a month and a bit ago.
3468 normaly works the Telford staff shuttle
Quote from: Busman Jamie on November 09, 2015, 06:19:58 PM
3468 normaly works the Telford staff shuttle
And I've also seen it on the 5A (Donnington Asda)
2146 - MX12JXH was on the 297 Kidderminster - Bridgnorth Yesterday
2146 on the 297 again today just seen it coming into Kiddy
2729 on 57 seen in wolverhampton at 4.15
Solo on WD326. Left Bilston at 8:05
2267 - Y267YBC was on the 297 Kidderminster - Bridgnorth Yesterday this could possibly be the last time it's on the route because I think it's non DDA.
Quote from: Reece on December 02, 2015, 12:43:03 PM
2267 - Y267YBC was on the 297 Kidderminster - Bridgnorth Yesterday this could possibly be the last time it's on the route because I think it's non DDA.
I believe the Y reg batch are compliant.
2966 is on the 8A, seen on Tettenhall Road at 16:53.
Quote from: Reece on December 02, 2015, 12:43:03 PM
2267 - Y267YBC was on the 297 Kidderminster - Bridgnorth Yesterday this could possibly be the last time it's on the route because I think it's non DDA.
No, these are DDA compliant
4217 apparently on Burton 7's tonight vice a Versa (see what I did there)
Both 7 boards should ideally be deckers to mop up school kids.
Fleet consists of 4212, 4217 and 4800 with the latter due off-fleet once Boots service X39 finishes in Jan 16.
Thing is, extra Boots runs have been using the deckers.
Quote from: 646 on December 02, 2015, 07:31:07 PM
Both 7 boards should ideally be deckers to mop up school kids.
Fleet consists of 4212, 4217 and 4800 with the latter due off-fleet once Boots service X39 finishes in Jan 16.
Thing is, extra Boots runs have been using the deckers.
The last time I myself went to Burton, the 7 had 2 Commanders on. I agree the route needs the deckers. Just never heard or seen of one on the night running card but I'm just going on what I've been told. Although I wouldn't mind a run on 4800 on the 7 before its gone.
Telford E200 2147 on the 5 earlier this evening noted at Stafford .
id say majority of Y reg darts will go unless they are DDA
2156 - 76
Branded 10, 10 and 10B bus on the X11
Seen a pye green pulsar on the outer cannock circular early yesterday morning about830
Quote from: OH25 on December 11, 2015, 03:09:57 PM
Branded 10, 10 and 10B bus on the X11
Boots requires a decker on the dupe so it will be one of the 10 ones.
Quote from: Bob on December 11, 2015, 03:30:23 PM
Seen a pye green pulsar on the outer cannock circular early yesterday morning about830
It does half a 20 starts in hednesford then on to Pye greens
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on December 02, 2015, 02:33:17 PM
I believe the Y reg batch are compliant.
Ashley, yes thats correct, they are.
Quote from: BN on December 13, 2015, 01:13:33 PM
Ashley, yes thats correct, they are.
I thought they were
@BN . Plus they're pretty decent motors from a passenger perspective.
4786 on the 19.
2147 - TF9
E200 on TFX92.
MPD on the 71/76 yesterday apparently.
One of the Geminis on the X60 tonight
Quote from: Tony on December 23, 2015, 08:07:40 PM
One of the Geminis on the X60 tonight
A short working? Thought deckers couldn't go under the railway bridge on and out of lichfield
Quote from: Bob on December 23, 2015, 09:03:42 PM
A short working? Thought deckers couldn't go under the railway bridge on and out of lichfield
It would of been on the 60 which only goes as far as Lichfield then private back to depot
Arriva wednesfield S212JUA on rt8a/41 & 335 tonight mega rare dep Walsall 8a 19:50 bloxwich 20:15 or 20:20 then dep Walsall rt41 20:55 willenhall 21:35 dep Walsall rt335 22:00 & 22:30 dep Walsall rt8A 22:50
2266 (Y266 YBC) on the 9 tonight from Telford lovely little Dart that has good thrash 😃😃
Quote from: Wright liberator on December 29, 2015, 07:57:56 PM
Arriva wednesfield S212JUA on rt8a/41 & 335 tonight mega rare dep Walsall 8a 19:50 bloxwich 20:15 or 20:20 then dep Walsall rt41 20:55 willenhall 21:35 dep Walsall rt335 22:00 & 22:30 dep Walsall rt8A 22:50
Would this have been a change bus or on a 19 running card?
3339 on the 9 heading to Bridgnorth just seen it in Dawley usually Centro's
2550 is on the 223
2145 is on the 8A this afternoon, seen minutes ago in Wolverhampton Bus Station.
MPD SN03 LGC on the 60 jam packed leaving Cannock. What a ridiculously bad allocation for a busy interurban route. Given Cannock only has four darts there must have been a full sized bus on one of the mpd routes? 15/19/20/21...
2 MPDs on 3 (2274&2276)
What they used on the mpd routes then?
im guessing cadets
2988 (YJ09 OTW) on the 297 tonight :D nice to see a Versa back on this route
2271 on the 31A (Leics)
Quote from: OH25 on January 15, 2016, 05:24:22 PM
2271 on the 31A (Leics)
@OH25 No, it isn't, it's on the Wolverhampton 63/4/5 circuit, just had it to Wednesfield from Wolverhampton
thats a long route lol Wednesfield to wolves to leicster lol
Cadet (Y-UON maybe) on the 604 today
3792 on Cannock 3.
2739 on the 57
2735 cadet on the 64/65
2735 on the 63/4/5 circuit today (
@900 answers your question)
2550 -57
Quote from: RS on February 06, 2016, 11:17:41 PM
2550 -57
2550 actually spends most of its time allocated to the 57 from my observation.
Was on 229 last saturday and 77 sunday
Quote from: RS on February 06, 2016, 11:30:53 PM
Was on 229 last saturday and 77 sunday
Hence why i said 'most of the time' and 'from my observation' :)
Thanks for clarification
@Nathan just thought id mention it
Quote from: RS on February 06, 2016, 11:36:51 PM
Thanks for clarification @Nathan just thought id mention it
No worries. If you don't see the route on a daily basis, then you weren't to know :)
Quote from: Nathan on February 06, 2016, 11:41:22 PM
No worries. If you don't see the route on a daily basis, then you weren't to know :)
Thanks
2150 on the telford 9
2988 on the 9 10.45 off wolves
Ironically sister bus is on Stafford 9 today
3907 on Cannock 2, seen it in Bloxwich at 12:48 towards Cannock.
2724 - TF 9
3900 on Cannock 3.
Cadet 2731 is on the 'Sainsbury's Free Bus' today
270x - WD X68 - 13/5/15 - vice MPD
4787 - TF 5 - 9/5/15 - vice Pulsae
2723 - TF 3 - 9/5/15 - vice Streetlite
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on May 13, 2016, 11:03:53 PM
270x - WD X68 - 13/5/15 - vice MPD
4787 - TF 5 - 9/5/15 - vice Pulsae
2723 - TF 3 - 9/5/15 - vice Streetlite
2723 is running out of Wednesfield.
Quote from: BN on May 14, 2016, 07:46:26 AM
2723 is running out of Wednesfield.
Not on monday it wasn't.
4 branded Streetlite 3336 - FJ64EUY is on the 297 this evening.
2964 is on the 297 today Kidderminster > Bridgnorth
2702 the WD 63/64/65 today 👌
2502 - YJ57EKC Solo was on the last 297 of the day yesterday evening
Wednesfield 2159 on the Cannock 60 (Lichfield-Cannock)
http://wmbusphotos.com/Arriva/2159.html
Quote from: Tony on June 27, 2016, 07:54:56 PM
Wednesfield 2159 on the Cannock 60 (Lichfield-Cannock)
http://wmbusphotos.com/Arriva/2159.html
That has been on loan for quite some time
@Tony
Quote from: RS on June 27, 2016, 08:32:45 PM
That has been on loan for quite some time @Tony
Maybe, but not on the 60 which is normally full size buses
Quote from: Tony on June 27, 2016, 08:43:46 PM
Maybe, but not on the 60 which is normally full size buses
@Tony i was just saying that it has been at cannock for ages but i agree the 60 is usually the 37/9 series along with the VDL's aint it ?
Quote from: RS on June 27, 2016, 08:45:35 PM
@Tony i was just saying that it has been at cannock for ages but i agree the 60 is usually the 37/9 series along with the VDL's aint it ?
Yes, It is my local route.
2159 on the 60....considering this was a route with dedicated 61 plate buses which are now never on there... standards and slipping come to mind. There was a shitty cadet on there also earlier
Bet that was an interesting journey lol
Even more so if it went on 825 after. Presuming it could make it lol
Aren't the Volvos supposed to be allocated to it lol
Quote from: RS on June 27, 2016, 08:45:35 PM
@Tony i was just saying that it has been at cannock for ages but i agree the 60 is usually the 37/9 series along with the VDL's aint it ?
@RS 2159 is a Stafford/Cannock bus.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on June 27, 2016, 10:37:21 PM
@RS
2159 is a Stafford/Cannock bus.
Has been for a while. Better nick inside than the bu51 examples
3016 > 116 Usually Scanias
3013 > 110 Usually Saphhire Streetlites/E400S/4200
Quote from: RS on June 28, 2016, 05:07:20 PM
3016 > 116 Usually Scanias
3013 > 110 Usually Saphhire Streetlites/E400S/4200
Citaros are still regular on the 110
3017 did the 13:00 116 from Birmingham
3017 > 116 1707 off Square Peg
3002 > 110
3013 > 110
Quote from: RS on July 01, 2016, 08:35:25 PM
3017 > 116 1707 off Square Peg
3002 > 110
3013 > 110
As I said yesterday, this is not unusual
3507 > 110
*VERY RARE
3757 > CK 3
Quote from: RS on July 06, 2016, 08:16:57 PM
*VERY RARE
3757 > CK 3
This isn't very rare the 61 plates go on the 3's quite a lot
Quote from: ntw456 on July 06, 2016, 09:42:58 PM
This isn't very rare the 61 plates go on the 3's quite a lot
I disagree with you
Quote from: RS on July 06, 2016, 09:44:14 PM
I disagree with you
That's your choice but as I drive them I should know
VERY RARE
2159 on CK 70
Quote from: RS on July 08, 2016, 05:35:15 PM
NOT SO VERY RARE
2159 on CK 70
It's not rare to see a mpd on the 70.
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 08, 2016, 05:50:04 PM
It's not rare to see a mpd on the 70.
Correct, but very rare to have 2159 on it, it is Stafford's staff bus.
Mpds slumming it on the 70...has ridership dropped on that too? Or was it just allocated a totally unsuitable bus for a route of that length?
3760 on Cannock 1.
Yesterday
Omnilinks on Tamworth 2, 3A and X55
Citaro on 785/786
A Citaro is on the 116 today.
Quote from: 2206 on July 23, 2016, 05:29:55 PM
A Citaro is on the 116 today.
Is that unusual. Be ace if it was the sapphire one lol
Quote from: Bob on July 23, 2016, 06:24:43 PM
Is that unusual. Be ace if it was the sapphire one lol
Yes, its usually a Omnilink.
It wasn't a sapphire one.
Quote from: 2206 on July 23, 2016, 06:29:48 PM
Yes, its usually a Omnilink.
It wasn't a sapphire one.
I've caught the 116 several times and it has been a Citaro.
Quote from: Dom on July 23, 2016, 07:11:55 PM
I've caught the 116 several times and it has been a Citaro.
When I see it it is usually a Omnilink (some of which are branded for it), only seen a Citaro a couple of times.
Optare Versa 2990 is on the 116 today.
2376 on the 70
3302 is on the 116
Nearly had 4721 on tescos
Quote from: V89MOA on August 15, 2016, 12:56:50 PM
3302 is on the 116
I'm thinking it may have replaced broken down 3509
4797 is on Wednesfield 19.
Solo-297
Sapphire Citato 3022 is on Tamworth 116.
Arriva branded Gemini vice Sapphire Enviro on the 38
Sapphire 4406 on the 1A to Blue Peter and a Solar on the Park and Ride today
4 branded 3329 on the 9 today
3784 route branded for Telford 5 , Telford to Stafford on Stafford local service 6 all day today.
That's because the 5 & 6 interwork now
Thanks for that. They originally announced that Stafford town routes would be covered by Cannock that's what confused me.
Cannock cover the majority but Telford do the 6 in the week and th 12 on Sunday's and bank holidays
Hope this helps
Breadvan out on the 765 Tamworth - Lichfield today. Breadvans haven't operated round here since the late 90's. What is going on?
Demonstrator
Bread van?
Quote from: Bob on September 13, 2016, 04:46:21 PM
Bread van?
I thought that was a nickname for a member on this forum 🤔 but perhaps I dreamt it
Quote from: Bob on September 13, 2016, 04:46:21 PM
Bread van?
Any pictures? I thought bread vans were well gone!!!
It's a Mercedes benz sprinter
5 branded 3784 - FL63DXS was on the 9 on Wednesday evening
Solo 2504 on 3 to Cannock.
Quote from: P419 EJW on November 05, 2016, 02:18:13 PM
Solo 2504 on 3 to Cannock.
Not unusual the solos are allocated to this route
What services are they definitely allocated to? Seen on 62 today
Two of them where in Rugeley bus station on Friday, one was definitely on the 22.
Quote from: ntw456 on November 05, 2016, 08:31:05 PM
Not unusual the solos are allocated to this route
Thanks. :) Was under impression that it was unusual... Only see Commanders and Pulsars on the 3/3A in Walsall.
Quote from: P419 EJW on November 06, 2016, 06:44:12 PM
Thanks. :) Was under impression that it was unusual... Only see Commanders and Pulsars on the 3/3A in Walsall.
And cadets
2702 on 63/64/65 👍👍👌👌👌👌👌
Quote from: 900 on November 07, 2016, 09:32:50 AM
2702 on 63/64/65 👍👍👌👌👌👌👌
2702 is on the 63/4/5 circuit today
2144 (MX12 JXF) currently on the 9 (Telford-Bridgnorth) usually VDL Pulsars or Centro's
4783 on Wednesfield 27/28E yesterday.
Scania 3507 and another Scania on 110.
Quote from: P419 EJW on January 06, 2017, 02:41:33 PM
Scania 3507 and another Scania on 110.
3504 and 3507.
3868 on the 110.
3002 - 110.
2402 on the 1
2515 (Solo SR) on the Alvaston's in Derby earlier
3863 on the 110.
Not much different to when you posted 3868 being on the 110 :p
Telford Streetlite 3322 with route branding for Telford service 3 operating on Stafford service 6 this afternoon.
Quote from: Hector on February 08, 2017, 09:03:35 PM
Telford Streetlite 3322 with route branding for Telford service 3 operating on Stafford service 6 this afternoon.
3 branded 3323 was on the 9 today.
Quote from: Hector on February 08, 2017, 09:03:35 PM
Telford Streetlite 3322 with route branding for Telford service 3 operating on Stafford service 6 this afternoon.
Stafford 6 interworks with Telford 5. Nice spot though!
Solo - 765
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on February 09, 2017, 08:32:54 AM
Stafford 6 interworks with Telford 5. Nice spot though!
Solo - 765
Saw a 3 branded one on the 6 one afternoon last week, but generally seem to keep the Pulsars on there, so could well have been a changeover. One of my colleagues lives in Rickerscote and catches the 6 every day and hasn't mentioned an odd bus on there in the morning.
solo on the 765 is booked
4783 on 25
As in pye greens?
Wednesfield 25
2702-13
Versa 2997 on Telford's 9.
Scania on the 110. 18:50 Sutton heading to brum
2702-13
2997 on the 7 in Telford
4797 seen on the 27 in Dudley today, not sure how unusual this is though as I'm not usually up there on a Sunday.
On a route like the 60 what a joke
Unidentified Cannock Sapphire Streetlite in service in Stafford late this afternoon. Noted on South Walls around 17.50, but moved quicker than me before I got near enough to identify it !
3307
On the evening 2E there was a B7RLE this happens quite a lot. To be fair there's absolutely no excuse for that surely? In the day time If they're one or two down then fair enough but on a nighttime? Lol
Quote from: Bob on April 08, 2017, 08:53:27 AM
On the evening 2E there was a B7RLE this happens quite a lot. To be fair there's absolutely no excuse for that surely? In the day time If they're one or two down then fair enough but on a nighttime? Lol
So the question is, were they knackered for some reason, or elsewhere?
Surely out of 7 they could find a couple lol. Although to be fair a volvo would be a much nicer experience than a Streetshite
B7RLE on 2E again last night
Were there any Streelites out yesterday?
I saw one bus on the 2 yesterday past my house that wasnt one.
Yea there were. Maybe they've just given up on the Sapphire thing. It didn't work anyway lol
There was one on the Pye Green circular yesterday, I think it was FJ64 EVL but not 100% certain as it was a fleeting glimpse.
The 1 would be better with volvos anyway and solo's could cope with the 2
I spotted 2 volvos and 1 pulsar on the 1&2 yeaterday
Bloody hell lol. Making your journey sparkle 😂
Suppose they will get redeployed elsewhere soon?
Lol probably. Good riddance
What is the point of Sapphire? Unlike Stagecoach and First and (to some extent) NXWM there are absolutely loads of Sapphire routes, not just the "flagship" routes.
It did well in Cannock. ...after introduction they cut the frequency of the 1 and elongated the route 😂😂😂😂😂
3308 is on the 26 Pye Green Circular.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on April 11, 2017, 05:18:37 PM
3308 is on the 26 Pye Green Circular.
Just Showing
Arriva, alternating with 'a DB company' on the destination when I saw it.
Quote from: Tony on April 11, 2017, 05:42:26 PM
Just Showing
Arriva, alternating with 'a DB company' on the destination when I saw it.
It was showing it when I saw it. However it did have passengers onboard and people were asking the driver what service it was.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on April 11, 2017, 08:09:51 PM
It was showing it when I saw it. However it did have passengers onboard and people were asking the driver what service it was.
Oh it was in service when I saw it as well, presumably Pye Green not worthy of being programmed in.
Quote from: Tony on April 11, 2017, 08:20:39 PM
Oh it was in service when I saw it as well, presumably Pye Green not worthy of being programmed in.
I found it ironic that 3761 arrived into Cannock on a 1 to Walsall a few minutes after 3308 left.
They can't do allocation lol
3868 is on Tamworth's 110 today.
Ex London Cadet on the 825 today. Usually during the daytime the 825 is a preserve of the 58 plate Volvo's and 61 plate Pulsar's.
Not always. Cadet 04 plate was on there Saturday. In fact they appear quite a bit . LF02 PLV was on the 2 at Landywood the other day also. The ex London examples truly are sheds
Quote from: Bob on May 12, 2017, 03:05:55 PM
Not always. Cadet 04 plate was on there Saturday. In fact they appear quite a bit . LF02 PLV was on the 2 at Landywood the other day also. The ex London examples truly are sheds
According to you every arriva vehicle is awful???
With regard to Cannocks fleet they pretty much are
Bob, read my post again, I said usually not always. I know that the 825 sees any of the Cannock vehicles but I repeat USUALLY during the day it is the 58 plate Volvos and 61 plate Pulsars on that service. Your dislike of all things Arriva is now well known.
And I repeat a cadet on there isn't particularly unusual 😂
Also Commanders are pretty regular during the daytime. It's basically anything cannock can muster.
I bow to your superior knowledge
Quote from: Bob on May 13, 2017, 02:21:19 PM
Also Commanders are pretty regular during the daytime. It's basically anything cannock can muster.
Personally I think that those Commanders look really old. But they're not.
The only 2 buses I don't see on 825 often are 3866/7
3867 scrapes the bridges at little Haywood
Would 3866/7 manage a full day on there without breaking down? Haven't they had a lot of trouble with them
3500 - 110
Quote from: Adam 404 on May 20, 2017, 01:51:24 PM
3500 - 110
Not unusual to have any type of single decker on the 110
Optare Solos 2526 2527 On 80 to Oadby today
Quote from: ntw456 on May 21, 2017, 08:16:13 PM
Yeah
Can you answer a question for me?
Do drivers have a specific route or do they work all the routes at their depot?
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on May 22, 2017, 11:32:10 AM
Can you answer a question for me?
Do drivers have a specific route or do they work all the routes at their depot?
We do all the routes
Quote from: ntw456 on May 23, 2017, 09:40:57 PM
We do all the routes
So do you have to remember the route that each route takes?
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on May 25, 2017, 09:13:04 AM
So do you have to remember the route that each route takes?
Well if you don't you'd be in trouble.
In the 1980s I used to do overtime at all WMPTE garages so used to have to know every route in the West Midlands. I still know most of them now, but because I don't drive service work very often nowadays there are several changes I haven't kept up with.
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on May 25, 2017, 09:13:04 AM
So do you have to remember the route that each route takes?
Well that's a bit of a daft question...
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on May 25, 2017, 09:13:04 AM
So do you have to remember the route that each route takes?
Yes
2368 is on CK1/2 today.
Cannock 3723 is on Tamworth 110 today.
Telford VDL/ Plaxton Centro 3735 on the Telford-Stafford 5 + Stafford local 6 today mixed in with the more usual 59 and 63 plate Pulsars
2997 was on the 5/6 Stafford Monday
3723 was on the 110 credit to
@Michael Bevan
Telford 2149 a mini Enviro 200 was leaving Stafford on Newport Road around 9.00am yesterday with 'not in service' display and mechanic driving. Presumably worked in on a 5, but never seen such a small vehicle on that service.
Since Telford started working the 6, by using vehicles which work into Stafford on the 5 and therefore increasing the route requirement for the 5, the additional vehicles are either 57 reg Centro, 59 reg Pulsar or 3756 the 61 reg Pulsar. A few months ago Centros were frequently used, but much less so now.
3310 was on the 10 earlier.
3749 is on the 10/A (Wolverhampton-Telford/Pattingham)
MIRA branded 3503 is on the 110, 13:50 city centre
Sapphire Enviro 400 4411 is on the 35A
Quote from: Nathan on September 16, 2017, 12:32:08 PM
Saphire Enviro 400 4411 is on the 35A
Got swapped for 3730. Did the 14:05 departure from Walsall.
3780 (Telford) is on the 10 this afternoon. It's not transponder fitted so cannot activate the Perton bus barrier and has to go the long way round into Perton.
Sapphire E400 on the Tamworth 4 today, along with a Solo for a nice mix of high/low capacity lol
MIRA branded 3502 on the 110, came off Aston Expressway northbound at 17:48
Telford 3310 in Wolves bus station on the 9, 14:45
Not often you get to see a Streetlite here
There's a Decker on the 10, just came into Wolverhampton. Too far away to make out any details though.
Quote from: DJ98 on February 19, 2018, 03:52:04 PM
There's a Decker on the 10, just came into Wolverhampton. Too far away to make out any details though.
Not unusual.
Quote from: Dom on February 19, 2018, 05:15:06 PM
Not unusual.
Is that board booked a decker then? I thought it was mini e200s on 10?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 19, 2018, 05:21:52 PM
Is that board booked a decker then? I thought it was mini e200s on 10?
That's what I thought, I can't remember seeing a decker on there over the past few months of being in Wolverhampton for uni.
There is a DAF DB250/ALX400 on the 10 every weekday afternoon. It does the 10S school service (or it did last time i checked) and then several Perton trips. 4797 turns up most afternoons. The general daytime allocation is a mix of DAF SB120/Wright Cadets and Enviro 200's.
Hello I can confirm as always 4797 was on the 10 service this afternoon one of the days last week I believe it was Tuesday 4803 worked the same service
Quote from: Nathan on February 19, 2018, 08:25:42 PM
There is a DAF DB250/ALX400 on the 10 every weekday afternoon. It does the 10S school service (or it did last time i checked) and then several Perton trips. 4797 turns up most afternoons. The general daytime allocation is a mix of DAF SB120/Wright Cadets and Enviro 200's.
Ah, that makes sense then, I usually head home just after 1PM or later on in the evening, so I wouldn't usually see it.
Quote from: Dom on February 19, 2018, 05:15:06 PM
Not unusual.
I'm guessing the decker doesn't run in the summer holidays on the 10?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 20, 2018, 02:33:21 PM
I'm guessing the decker doesn't run in the summer holidays on the 10?
It was on the 10 yesterday, so it seems to still run during holidays.
Hello DJ98 yes I believe the normal service appliers as I seen it again this afternoon in Wolverhampton again the normal bus 4797 thank you for your post
Mark
4707 Y707 XJF making an usual full day on the 70/70A Oswestry - Shrewsbury today. Perhaps explained with 3509 and 3785 been VOR and 2944 in the workshop at Oswestry.
I think there's a Sapphire Streetlite on the 3...Just passed one in Brownhills heading towards Cannock. It appeared to have passengers onboard...
FJ06 ZTE is on the 1 (Cannock - Walsall).
Nice to see commanders back on there
I dunno why its even marketed as a sapphire route anymore, theres always usually b7 pulsar etc on there. Cant see why they upgraded it for tho, especially the 2. Failure like everything they do in the WM 😂
There's two streetlites off one for accident damage and not sure about the other one
Quote from: ntw456 on March 03, 2018, 04:45:17 PM
There's two streetlites off one for accident damage and not sure about the other one
Theyve always got at least 1 off anyway lol
X65 branded 3001 is on the 110.
4707 has worked on the 70/70A Oswestry - Shrewsbury all week opposed to its 405 School Service
Oswestry have pressed 6005 BU03 HRA on the 70 Oswestry to Shrewsbury late afternoon onwards at least, quite rare to appear.
Yesterday
4012 - X84
3314 - 127
RBOF
84/85 branded MMC on 44/44A
I am not sure whether these are unusual or not:
4200 on 110 02/06/18
3000 on 110 03/06/18
Ian Hardy
I saw 3318 on 78 in Longford, Coventry on Wed 06/06/18.
I had seen a post that they were for the X84.
Ian Hardy
5 branded VDL SB200/Wright Pulsar 3781 on the 10/A (Wolverhampton to Telford/Pattingham) this lunchtime.
3306 (1 and 2/A Branded) is on the 110 today.
On the Priory Queensway in Birmingham City Centre at 15:50.
Quote from: 2206 on June 28, 2018, 05:01:58 PM
3306 (1 and 2/A Branded) is on the 110 today.
On the Priory Queensway in Birmingham City Centre at 15:50.
The novelty of a Cannock branded bus in Birmingham!
Fair few in Telford today:
3329 on 16
Another Streetlite on 15
3733 on 15 (first time I've not seen an Enviro on both 15 and 16 in one day)
1006 on 3
Enviro200 on 1/2
3697 (SY vehicle) on 4
A Streetlite on 10/13 circuit
Sapphire Streetlite 3306 was on the 3/A earlier. Operated the 18:40 journey off Walsall.
3312-9 not sure how unusual
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 14, 2018, 09:54:48 PM
3312-9 not sure how unusual
Not too unusual these days; it's normally a Streetlite, Centro, Commander or Pulsar.
2745 and 2748 on Cannock 1.
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 16, 2018, 02:12:05 PM
2745 and 2748 on Cannock 1.
So even with a spare Sapphire they cant even manage it...and they then put the two crappest buses they have on a supposedly premium route? Was there not a Pulsar/B7/ even Commander available? Jesus 🤣
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 16, 2018, 02:12:05 PM
2745 and 2748 on Cannock 1.
2748 has moved from Telford then? :(
3308-Pye Greens
2404 on 14/19 circuit in Telford today - I'm assuming a transfer in exchange for 2748.
@Bob - please have your Solo back; it sounds horrendous!
Quote from: PointerDart on July 17, 2018, 04:30:32 PM
2404 on 14/19 circuit in Telford today - I'm assuming a transfer in exchange for 2748.
@Bob - please have your Solo back; it sounds horrendous!
2404 is it a resprayed one?
Quote from: Bob on July 17, 2018, 05:20:25 PM
2404 is it a resprayed one?
Indeed it is. So all of a sudden Telford has gone from 1 resprayed bus to 5 (4 being transfers!) 😂
Quote from: PointerDart on July 17, 2018, 08:27:11 PM
Indeed it is. So all of a sudden Telford has gone from 1 resprayed bus to 5 (4 being transfers!) 😂
Ah yea they couldnt even be arsed to bother retrimming it either still has its origibal interior
05 plate Solo on Pye Greens
Optare Versa on route 4 in Telford today
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on September 03, 2018, 05:01:46 PM
Optare Versa on route 4 in Telford today
Did you see a reg/fleet no. by any chance, just out of interest?
Quote from: PointerDart on September 03, 2018, 05:16:53 PM
Did you see a reg/fleet no. by any chance, just out of interest?
No sorry. I think it was an 09 plate.
Cannock Solo 2496 on sapphire route 1 this evening.
Quote from: tphi12000 on September 03, 2018, 06:51:02 PM
Cannock Solo 2496 on sapphire route 1 this evening.
One on there Sat as well!
saw that aswell in bloxwich
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on September 03, 2018, 11:17:41 PM
Opt are solo was on route 1 in walsall
Thats what the post above was saying mate
Quote from: Bob on September 03, 2018, 11:28:25 PM
Thats what the post above was saying mate
Sorry didn't see that m8 I'll be much careful next time
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on September 03, 2018, 11:31:07 PM
Sorry didn't see that m8 I'll be much careful next time
I werent having a go mate no need to apologise 😀😀😀😀😀
Quote from: Bob on September 04, 2018, 10:31:00 AM
I werent having a go mate no need to apologise 😀😀😀😀😀
OK but now we need to carry on with the unusual workings now
A few from within Telford today:
2142 (MX12 CEY) on 3
2702 (YJ54 CKF) on 11
Park & Ride Versa on X4/X5
3792 (FL63 DYA) on 16 (very tight along Alma Avenue in Malinslee - surprised it fit through; centimetres from hitting a parked Mercedes' wing mirror).
Hinckley-based 2737 on the 13s and 19s in Telford today; unsure if this is another loan or a new move with the deckers being withdrawn soon?
2737 was Hinckley, Cannock before that
Quote from: Busman Jamie on September 11, 2018, 04:42:39 PM
2737 was Hinckley, Cannock before that
Ah I didn't realise - thanks for that.
VDL Commander on the 110
FJ06 ZTG on the Cannock 2.
B7RLE on 10/70
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on November 19, 2018, 06:54:41 PM
B7RLE on 10/70
Theyve been on the (70 at least) loads of times lol
Quote from: Bob on November 19, 2018, 07:06:33 PM
Theyve been on the (70 at least) loads of times lol
I',m very much aware of that thank you! However I personally haven't seen one on the 10 yet. Have you not got some seat trim to whine about?
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on November 20, 2018, 09:16:49 AM
I',m very much aware of that thank you! However I personally haven't seen one on the 10 yet. Have you not got some seat trim to whine about?
Alright, dont get your wig wet....😂
MIRA Bus 2003 on X55 route to Leicester
Oswestry allocated 4806 X502 GGO on the 70/70A Oswestry to Shrewsbury today, first time its been used on that service as far as aware.
Oswestry allocated 2546 YN53 SVT on the 70/70A Oswestry to Shrewsbury yesterday and today.
1 for
@Ashley 60171, Cannock 3913 on 70/10
Quote from: Busman Jamie on November 28, 2018, 02:38:39 PM
1 for @Ashley 60171, Cannock 3913 on 70/10
I forgot to mention I saw a Dart on there Friday night.
@Busman Jamie
2736 on Cannock 1.
Cannock 3721 on 1/2
3721 had broken down in bus station at half 2 with engine cover up and van in attendance
Cannock 3722 on 1 & 2.
Quote from: P419 EJW on January 02, 2019, 04:30:12 PM
Cannock 3722 on 1 & 2.
As a result, there's a Streetlite off route, might be on Pye Greens but I'm not sure.
Quote from: StourValley98 on January 02, 2019, 05:43:52 PM
As a result, there's a Streetlite off route, might be on Pye Greens but I'm not sure.
63 I believe
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on January 02, 2019, 06:13:20 PM
63 I believe
There was a Streetlite on Pye Greens earlier. So even with a spare Sapphire Pulsar thry still cant get a full allocation lol. Im sure there was a Solo on the 1/2 the other day
Quote from: Bob on January 02, 2019, 09:26:10 PM
There was a Streetlite on Pye Greens earlier. So even with a spare Sapphire Pulsar thry still cant get a full allocation lol. Im sure there was a Solo on the 1/2 the other day
Would you rather the Streetlite and Solo or prefer no bus at all turning up? Its not just Arriva as well.
NX put platinum buses on non platinum routes regularly as well today I saw, 6810 on the 16 and 6816 on the 33, though i'm sure the passengers on non of those routes minded that they had a premium bus rather than the standard bus.
Same can be said for the Solo on the 1/2, a Solo is better than no bus at all. NX had 3 Tridents on the platinum services to Birmingham Uni and the QE today as well. I saw a Gemini on the X5 where 6810 and 6816 are usually found as well.
Quote from: 2206 on January 02, 2019, 09:33:36 PM
Would you rather the Streetlite and Solo or prefer no bus at all turning up? Its not just Arriva as well.
NX put platinum buses on non platinum routes regularly as well today I saw, 6810 on the 16 and 6816 on the 33, though i'm sure the passengers on non of those routes minded that they had a premium bus rather than the standard bus.
Same can be said for the Solo on the 1/2, a Solo is better than no bus at all. NX had 3 Tridents on the platinum services to Birmingham Uni and the QE today as well. I saw a Gemini on the X5 where 6810 and 6816 are usually found as well.
Well Sapphire is allegedly a premium service, however a threadbare Commander ( the one used even broke down on the 1/2 the other day) or a Solo is of a much lower standard than anything NX would likely turn out on a Pkatinum ssrvice surely.
Oswestry had on loan Telford Pulsar 2, 3782, complete with 5 branding for Telford to Stafford on the 70/70A Oswestry to Shrewsbury today. Had to back to Oswestry, very fine example too!
3741- cannock 1/2
Optare Solo SR 2516 on 74 this evening (presumably transferred from Derby to Cannock) and 3719 on the 5 (so transferred to Telford ?)
3719 has been at Cannock quite a bit longer than the rest of that batch. It was always the most knackered sounding of the lot
3719 transferred to Telford last week some time
Two further Solo SRs operating services in Stafford today - 2508 and 2514 both ex Derby
4405 (38) - Derby 2, 1502 off Swadlincote
Shrewsbury P&R Versa, 2969 YJ60 LUH spent the whole day on the X4/X5 services to Telford. 2974 YJ09 MKN (new livery and usual on route 1) was on the 436 to Bridgnorth / 9 Wolverhampton, replaced 3692 this morning been the reason why.
3303 is on the 10 in Wolverhampton this morning
Dart on the 19
FJ55 BWA was on Cannock 1 & 2 today.
2374 was on the Cannock 1 & 2 today
YJ57 AZU is on Cannock 1 & 2.
2376 - on the 1 this evening
3909- on the 2 this evening
Quote from: Busman Jamie on June 04, 2019, 07:03:22 PM
2376 - on the 1 this evening
3909- on the 2 this evening
Isn't that odd to see darts and volvo's on cannocks sapphire routes mate. If a streetlite appeared on the 1/2 that would be classed as an odd working :P
VDL SB200/Wright Commander 3725 (FJ06 ZTM) was on the 19 (Bloxwich to Walsall) this afternoon, usually in the hands of Optare Solo SR's.
Optare Solo 2496 is on the 25 today.
1003 is on the 19.
2510 is on the 25.
Optare Solo SR on the Telford X4 tonight.
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on June 14, 2019, 07:00:23 PM
Optare Solo SR on the Telford X4 tonight.
Not too unusual as it's probably come off from the daytime 16s as happens normally, which is usually Enviros or Solo SRs
Quote from: PointerDart on June 15, 2019, 10:40:09 AM
Not too unusual as it's probably come off from the daytime 16s as happens normally, which is usually Enviros or Solo SRs
No, this route is operated by Shrewsbury garage who normally allocate versa's to it so it couldn't have come off the 16. Shrewsbury don't have any enviro's. I have never seen Solo's on it before.
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on June 15, 2019, 12:29:40 PM
No, this route is operated by Shrewsbury garage who normally allocate versa's to it so it couldn't have come off the 16. Shrewsbury don't have any enviro's. I have never seen Solo's on it before.
There are shorts operated by Telford in the late afternoon on schooldays which operate between Wellington and Telford Centre - that is what I assumed would have happened
Quote from: PointerDart on June 15, 2019, 01:04:49 PM
There are shorts operated by Telford in the late afternoon on schooldays which operate between Wellington and Telford Centre - that is what I assumed would have happened
Possibly, yes
3749 making an appearance on the 14 (Telford-Shifnal) today.
6009 working the 519 (Shrewsbury-Newport). Usually worked by versa's.
2702 on the 5/5A (Telford - Stafford) today covering for 3781 which was suffering from a fault this morning
There was quite a mix of vehicles on the 5 yesterday apart from 2702, I also saw a Centro, a Streetlite and a couple of 59 plate Pulsars but none of the 63 plate branded Pulsars. Another oddity was the positioning of the 'Connecting Telford' strapline. On at least one it was underneath the windows and towards the front. Sorry can't give fleet nos as I was driving.
Quote from: Grinder on August 22, 2019, 08:05:51 AM
There was quite a mix of vehicles on the 5 yesterday apart from 2702, I also saw a Centro, a Streetlite and a couple of 59 plate Pulsars but none of the 63 plate branded Pulsars. Another oddity was the positioning of the 'Connecting Telford' strapline. On at least one it was underneath the windows and towards the front. Sorry can't give fleet nos as I was driving.
The branded pulsars are slowly starting to be debranded and painted into the new Arriva livery. Centro's and Streetlites do often make it onto the 5 so not unusual to see them on the route.
Centros and more recently Streetlites do make it on to the 5, but that is normally at weekends. During the week it is unusual to see anything other than a 59 reg or 63 reg pulsar on the 5.
Quote from: Hector on August 22, 2019, 07:16:11 PM
Centros and more recently Streetlites do make it on to the 5, but that is normally at weekends. During the week it is unusual to see anything other than a 59 reg or 63 reg pulsar on the 5.
Had 3335 on the 5 on Monday so more often now
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on August 22, 2019, 08:36:02 AM
The branded pulsars are slowly starting to be debranded and painted into the new Arriva livery. Centro's and Streetlites do often make it onto the 5 so not unusual to see them on the route.
3784 the only one needing doing now I believe
Quote from: Grinder on August 22, 2019, 08:05:51 AM
There was quite a mix of vehicles on the 5 yesterday apart from 2702, I also saw a Centro, a Streetlite and a couple of 59 plate Pulsars but none of the 63 plate branded Pulsars. Another oddity was the positioning of the 'Connecting Telford' strapline. On at least one it was underneath the windows and towards the front. Sorry can't give fleet nos as I was driving.
Mainly the newly repainted ones, including 3753, 3755, and the repainted 63 plates. Looks so tacky how they've done it. Not even been retrimmed on the 59 plates and no USB charging apart from 3751 and 3752
2702 working the 113/4/5/6 circuit today. Usually in the hands of a solo or E200.
UID streetlite on the 8/297.
2149 on the 5 to Stafford yesterday.
Omnilink 3500 not long left Birmingham with a 110
A few from today in Shropshire:
2993 YJ09 MKG replaced 3694 on 436 Shrewsbury to Bridgnorth and 9 Bridgnorth to Wolverhampton.
4803 Y485 UGC on 70/70 Oswestry to Shrewsbury
Quote from: Depotosw on December 18, 2019, 08:24:46 PM
A few from today in Shropshire:
2993 YJ09 MKG replaced 3694 on 436 Shrewsbury to Bridgnorth and 9 Bridgnorth to Wolverhampton.
4803 Y485 UGC on 70/70 Oswestry to Shrewsbury
Is 4803 likely to be a regular on the 70 over Christmas do you know?
@Depotosw
Shrewsbury optare solo 2535 on the x5 service from Telford this evening
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on December 19, 2019, 09:59:13 AM
Is 4803 likely to be a regular on the 70 over Christmas do you know? @Depotosw
Hi, best bet if strays out will be the 53 Ellesmere but but always possible on the 70/70A but not been common this year. 4803 spent the day on 53 last Saturday.
Quote from: Rich-82 on December 20, 2019, 04:33:23 PM
Shrewsbury optare solo 2535 on the x5 service from Telford this evening
Saw that myself, did look out of place. The reason will be heavy congestion in Shrewsbury last few days in getting around Abbey Foregate and up Wyle Cop due to Castle Walls been closed, X4/X5 running at times 20 to 30 minutes late. Yesterday 2976 got placed onto the 436 for the very same reason with 3695 getting very late in due to traffic.
3756 YJ61 FEF appeared on the 70 Oswestry - Shrewsbury by late afternoon today after going on the Wrexham services first thing, must say VDL SB200, Wright Pulsars are much more preferable on the 70/70A over Versas and Scanias!
Optare solo 2546 on Route 4 today in Telford at about 15.20 seen in Wellington
Quote from: Rich-82 on January 29, 2020, 03:35:37 PM
Optare solo 2546 on Route 4 today in Telford at about 15.20 seen in Wellington
This was on the 6 in Stafford yesterday lunchtime so it must have also done the 5 at some point.
Quote from: Cheese on January 29, 2020, 04:24:15 PM
This was on the 6 in Stafford yesterday lunchtime so it must have also done the 5 at some point.
very strange workings as this vehicle is normally from what ive seen is confined to the Bridgnorth service from Telford
Quote from: Cheese on January 29, 2020, 04:24:15 PM
This was on the 6 in Stafford yesterday lunchtime so it must have also done the 5 at some point.
Surprised it made it to Newport let alone Stafford!
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on January 29, 2020, 05:51:40 PM
Surprised it made it to Newport let alone Stafford!
When it was in Oswestry 12 months ago it would regularly appear on the 70/70A Oswestry - Shrewsbury as they struggled to find an allocation for it, it was far too small for the peak 70 workings and would annoy the punters (myself included). All that said when at Oswestry it was fast and reliable as hell.
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on January 29, 2020, 05:51:40 PM
Surprised it made it to Newport let alone Stafford!
Don't knock it til you try it. Not bad for a Solo and the sole remaining ex Midland/Choice vehicle in the fleet.
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on January 29, 2020, 05:51:40 PM
Surprised it made it to Newport let alone Stafford!
You'd think itd be allocated to Cannock, isnt that where all buses go to die?😂
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on January 29, 2020, 09:29:42 PM
Don't knock it til you try it. Not bad for a Solo and the sole remaining ex Midland/Choice vehicle in the fleet.
@Ashley 60171 I have travelled on it many times as it is regularly found working my local route. It makes a loud rattling/knocking sound whenever it idles.
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on January 31, 2020, 05:42:16 PM
@Ashley 60171 I have travelled on it many times as it is regularly found working my local route. It makes a loud rattling/knocking sound whenever it idles.
What route is it usually on?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 31, 2020, 08:51:36 PM
What route is it usually on?
Usually on 113/4/5/6 or the 8/297.
UID Pulsar on the 19 spotted in Shrewsbury around 1230.
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on February 12, 2020, 12:48:24 PM
UID Pulsar on the 19 spotted in Shrewsbury around 1230.
3780 on 19, had a quick spin on it.
4806 X502 GGO was pressed onto the 70 Oswestry to Shrewsbury for a round trip, 16:12 ex OS and 17:17 ex SY, this due to delays with the service due to flooding in Shrewsbury. It made a nice trip home after a little walk to get it from Frankwell.
UID Pulsar on the 70 to Oswestry this morning.
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on March 03, 2020, 05:31:05 PM
UID Pulsar on the 70 to Oswestry this morning.
3762 YJ61 FEP, on the 70/70A yesterday and today as I had it back both days. It finally entered use this week after a month off the road due to some substantial work required to bring it up to standard.
Quote from: Depotosw on March 03, 2020, 07:55:07 PM
3762 YJ61 FEP, on the 70/70A yesterday and today as I had it back both days. It finally entered use this week after a month off the road due to some substantial work required to bring it up to standard.
Where was it based prior?
Quote from: Bob on March 03, 2020, 09:33:03 PM
Just realised it was at Cannock till December ;) sort of explains it....
If one of Cannocks newest buses has to have significant work done to get it up to standard for another garage what does that say about the rest of the fleet which is mostly considerably older? I think Arriva have just given Cannock up as a bad job!
2512 working the Telford staff shuttle today, seen by The International Centre around 1130 this morning.
It's being used for the staff shuttle as they are not using a mini bus like they normally do there was one of the Enviros on the staff shuttle yesterday and I've seen streetlites on there to
2546 on 1/2.
Pulsar on Telford 14/14A yesterday
Also, a streetlite had "8 Bridgnorth" on the blind (weather it actually did the 8 is another story).
Quote from: BusMan Greg on November 12, 2021, 09:46:42 AM
Pulsar on Telford 14/14A yesterday
Also, a streetlite had "8 Bridgnorth" on the blind (weather it actually did the 8 is another story).
The 14 has never seemed to have a fixed allocation. Basically anything and everything will turn up on it.
Scania 3505 is out on a peak 110.
That will be a fine then or £50 daily charge !