If I catch a 110 bus in birmingham and ask for a fare to Tamworth Rail station do I pay for the outward journey to Victoria road (terminus) and then pay an additional fare to the rail station?
Thanks andy.I suffer from angina and cant walk very far, cold weather doesn't help either but I appreciate your concern...
Shame the 110 route into Tamworth has been altered to avoid the station, though it has sped it up a bit, anything to help improve the 110's time keeping is welcome!
You may have a 10 min wait in Victoria Road, but there's a news agents that do sandwiches and drinks :)
Sorry andy,didn't notice your reply. The only problem I have with the 116 is that the service doesn't run through Erdington, (it follows the Kingsbury Rd Route from gravelly hill) Which is why I use the 110. can't say Iv'e had problems with timekeeping, but Its not a service I use every day.I think their gemini fleet may have bigger engines than WM-they can shift when asked :)
why is the 110 always decker operated whenever ive seen it its only ever about a third full at the most?
Bob your post didn't say where you usually see it? I can tell you the 110 can be well patronised between erdington and good hope hospital in visiting hours!
sorry i meant in/out of city centre
Hi guys, does the 110 serve destiny manor or go near it and if so which stop and if not what route, I really cba to drive their lol
oh i didnt realise the tamworth to sutton part was busy, must be the only birmingham arriva service thats profitable, i noticed burton garage have put old darts on the 112! that would be a noisy journey from hell! The X31 is apparently running at a loss, which is a shame, it should be a profitable well used service. Although i think it was a stupid idea to run it along one of the most congested parts of the m6, which leads to horrific timekeeping. its been extended to September with subsidy, will be interesting to see what happens afterwards
*draton manor sorry predictive text
Danny, dont worry about it, most of us can guess what you meant :)If you mean does the 110 pass draYton Manor park? well, No it doesn't.- but it does turn left (off the A5) at Fazeley. There are probably other services from there which would take you to the park. alternatively, you could walk it-(10 mins) .
Quote from: andy on May 20, 2012, 05:32:16 PM
As I mentioned before, I drove these buses until recently. The 110 is far busier between Tamworth and Sutton than it is between Sutton and Birmingham, thanks to NXWM slotting the 915 in at virtually the same times. The only time you get a decent load in or out of city is if there's a 9-- missing or late, which I used to dread as you would always end up in arguments with oblivious Faresaver merchants who used to try to swan onto your bus without paying.
The problem with timekeeping is caused by the hideous traffic in Tamworth at Ventura Park, the traffic lights on Whitehouse Common Road by the Health Centre, that have no filter on them and then of course the Aston Expressway at peak times. But it's a decently reliable service these days compared to what it was, and it's definitely better used now.
The Geminis on it are a delight to drive, I absolutely loved them except for their visibility from the cab, there are some terrible blind spots that you really have to get used to, but powerwise and for manouevering, lovely buses. Quicker because they're B9's and not B7's, don't require as much acceleration and pick up beautifully without struggling. I've never driven an NXWM Gemini so can't comment but they do seem to labour considering the amount of noise they make!
They can do quite a nice speed over the Aston Expressway... but there's one or two that seem to struggle with the hills between Fazeley and Sutton, I say one or two, because most seem to fly...
I've done the 110 quite a few times and had a B6 sub :(
Adam
Thanks guys you all stars does anyone ni what arrival fares are like.
I went from Tamworth to Sutton on an adult fare and it was £3.80 which is quite expensive tho day tickets are sold I think which work out as better value...
£6 midlands day saver unlimtied travel all arriva services across midlands no boundry restrictions considering some fare prices is good value (except for people who like NX)
The 3 ex-X38 Versa's are apparently bound for Tamworth to get rid of the last B6LEs
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55432463@N08/9075928609/in/photostream/
S629KHN has been at Tamworth for the last few days ...
Quote from: John on June 18, 2013, 08:24:53 PM
The 3 ex-X38 Versa's are apparently bound for Tamworth to get rid of the last B6LEs
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55432463@N08/9075928609/in/photostream/
Really hope this materialises...
And regarding the Dart at Tamworth, I think this is because of a road closure somewhere and its being used as a shuttle bus.
A Centrebus liveried Wright bodied single decker (guessing a Scania) was parked up in Tamworth depot earlier today. Couldn't see the reg whilst passing on a B6 I'm afraid...
Quote from: John on June 18, 2013, 08:24:53 PM
The 3 ex-X38 Versa's are apparently bound for Tamworth to get rid of the last B6LEs
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55432463@N08/9075928609/in/photostream/
I was in Burton last week and 2985 and 2987 were in evidence on the 8 and 7A respectively though I did not see 2986. I think I only missed one working, a 7 to Lichfield, so that could have been 2986 or 4217 which I did not see. I think they have lost 274x, Daf Cadets, in exchange for the new Pulsars. 3767 and 8 are the X38 buses and 3769 is a regular on the 9/29 to Leicester, a round trip of 4 hours.
Sorry for going off topic!
Quote from: Cheese on September 11, 2013, 06:51:56 PM
A Centrebus liveried Wright bodied single decker (guessing a Scania) was parked up in Tamworth depot earlier today. Couldn't see the reg whilst passing on a B6 I'm afraid...
You sure it wasn't the Tamworth Explorer branded B6, that is very orange from the back... not sure why a Centerbus bus would go to Tamworth when surly Leicester is closer...
Quote from: nx4737 on September 12, 2013, 04:20:21 AM
Quote from: Cheese on September 11, 2013, 06:51:56 PM
A Centrebus liveried Wright bodied single decker (guessing a Scania) was parked up in Tamworth depot earlier today. Couldn't see the reg whilst passing on a B6 I'm afraid...
You sure it wasn't the Tamworth Explorer branded B6, that is very orange from the back... not sure why a Centerbus bus would go to Tamworth when surly Leicester is closer...
It will be one of the 3 Scanias acquired at Hinckley
Anyone know how many buses are used on the 110 ?
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 08, 2013, 02:07:30 PM
Anyone know how many buses are used on the 110 ?
At a guess, 8-10. There are 8 Geminis at Tamworth. One or two might be parked up in the garage, but there are also a few OmnLinks and/or Citaros on there daily. The singles are either covering for Geminis parked up or it shows that there are not enough double deckers at Tamworth to cover all of the 110
When the current timetable started, 9 buses were needed at peak, meaning that they couldn't all be double deck any more. Patrick.
Thanks john & Patrick, just wondered as ive seen more Singles out on the 110 than normal
Saw B6BLE 2616 on Moor Street Queensway this afternoon (coming the way the 16 comes up from the Markets, I saw it passing the Coventry Road bus stop), with 3 Arriva staff on board. Wonder what it was doing, as it was strange seeing an Arriva bus driving that way in Birmingham
Quote from: John on May 02, 2014, 08:30:52 PM
Saw B6BLE 2616 on Moor Street Queensway this afternoon (coming the way the 16 comes up from the Markets, I saw it passing the Coventry Road bus stop), with 3 Arriva staff on board. Wonder what it was doing, as it was strange seeing an Arriva bus driving that way in Birmingham
Route training the new x76?
Been on the 110 today from tamworth to brum. For the length of the journey there were no more than 4 passengers upstairs...every 110 coming the other way was the same including one with a half empty lower deck too. Cmon no way are they needed? Citaros or omnilinks would be fine. Ive never understood why this has always been seen as some sort of uber important holy grail service lol
Ive never thought it requires deckers though. Evidenced by the fact Omnilink's and Citaro's cope perfectly with it as did even B6s before them not to mention the plethora or step entry single deckers that went before them...
From what I see of the 110 at the Birmingham end, I would agree with Andy. What Bob saw is not uncommon, but if a 110 is the first Sutton-bound bus to reach Corporation Street for several minutes, it will often leave with a double deck load.
4200 has half Sapphire livery like 4224 (thanks to James for his pic)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/115199517@N06/14418703204/
Quote from: John on June 14, 2014, 07:48:58 PM
4200 has half Sapphire livery like 4224 (thanks to James for his pic)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/115199517@N06/14418703204/
Are the Sapphire spec E400's for Tamworth on the production line yet?
Anybody who thinks the 110 can cope with single deckers in 2014 is crazy? Decker loads almost all day most of the time, especially at peak times. Even weekday evening journeys bare sights of packed out Citaro's. Only time it's lightly loaded is probably sunday nights
Quote from: Ashley on June 15, 2014, 05:23:57 PM
Anybody who thinks the 110 can cope with single deckers in 2014 is crazy? Decker loads almost all day most of the time, especially at peak times. Even weekday evening journeys bare sights of packed out Citaro's. Only time it's lightly loaded is probably sunday nights
You must see different 110s to me. The odd times I travel on one in from Erdington I am normally the only person upstairs, and I cannot say I have ever seen over 45 passengers on a peak working
Quote from: Tony on June 15, 2014, 08:45:39 PM
Quote from: Ashley on June 15, 2014, 05:23:57 PM
Anybody who thinks the 110 can cope with single deckers in 2014 is crazy? Decker loads almost all day most of the time, especially at peak times. Even weekday evening journeys bare sights of packed out Citaro's. Only time it's lightly loaded is probably sunday nights
You must see different 110s to me. The odd times I travel on one in from Erdington I am normally the only person upstairs, and I cannot say I have ever seen over 45 passengers on a peak working
I've encountered a full seated load on a B9 and some nearly full loads on B9's and a standing load on an Omnistink out of Tamworth between 1400 and 1900 on weekdays. All the fun starts Scutton to Tamworth. Scutton to City you wouldn't notice they were there. I read on Arriva's Facebook page this morning that the 110 was struggling to cope with people going to Drayton Manor
Agreed tony
Try Sutton Girls Grammar School to Whitehouse Common Road at "chucking out time"!!
Quote from: Nathan on June 14, 2014, 09:30:39 PM
Quote from: John on June 14, 2014, 07:48:58 PM
4200 has half Sapphire livery like 4224 (thanks to James for his pic)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/115199517@N06/14418703204/
Are the Sapphire spec E400's for Tamworth on the production line yet?
Delivery of the Tamworth batch is expected towards the end of July.
The 110 must do ok to keep gettin deckers for it, I'd of thought if it wasn't that busy they'd of purchased single deckers, I was in Tamworth the otherday and 2 of the 110 (Deckers) I did see were pretty full..... I did clock 4200 wearing the sapphire malarkey thing on 3's working alongside a b6 2614
There are notices appearing on the B9TL's reading "A cut above the rest on the 110, Sapphire (Sapphire logo), coming soon....
Quote from: arrivaaston on June 26, 2014, 01:29:53 PM
The 110 must do ok to keep gettin deckers for it, I'd of thought if it wasn't that busy they'd of purchased single deckers, I was in Tamworth the otherday and 2 of the 110 (Deckers) I did see were pretty full..... I did clock 4200 wearing the sapphire malarkey thing on 3's working alongside a b6 2614
Gemini on the Gillway estate? Must have been a mega squeeze
B6s and the odd gemini are quite common on the 2 and 3.
Quote from: andyallen4014 on June 20, 2014, 03:44:59 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 14, 2014, 09:30:39 PM
Quote from: John on June 14, 2014, 07:48:58 PM
4200 has half Sapphire livery like 4224 (thanks to James for his pic)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/115199517@N06/14418703204/
Are the Sapphire spec E400's for Tamworth on the production line yet?
Delivery of the Tamworth batch is expected towards the end of July.
Are there any plans as to where the Geminis will end up once these Enviro400s are in service?
Wigston garrage aren't they to replace the lowlanderd heading to Arriva Cymru??
Quote from: arrivaaston on July 09, 2014, 02:03:12 PM
Wigston garrage aren't they to replace the lowlanderd heading to Arriva Cymru??
Wigston have 10 Enviro400's coming for the 47/48 which should free up some more of the lowlanders to go to Arriva Crymu.
I don't know how true it is but I was told that the VLW's at Derby could be joining the rest of the VLW's on the breeze route 84/85 at Wigston when the 38 goes sapphire.
Presumably tamworths deckers will be Leicester bpund as well? To replace ex london deckers?
2614 - V614 KDA on loan to South Wigston depot: https://www.facebook.com/leicesterbuspage/photos/a.807748065925312.1073741828.807449195955199/821729317860520/?type=1&theater
2752 - CX04 EHY is also on loan to South Wigston, along with Solo 2553 - W282 EYG and various buses from Thurmaston (at the time of writing these being: 4783 - S255 JUA, 4795 - W366 VGJ and 9001 - YJ59 AYY). The Thurmaston loan buses are often rotated.
Quote from: 47609FireFly on July 23, 2014, 11:59:49 AM
2614 - V614 KDA on loan to South Wigston depot: https://www.facebook.com/leicesterbuspage/photos/a.807748065925312.1073741828.807449195955199/821729317860520/?type=1&theater
2752 - CX04 EHY is also on loan to South Wigston, along with Solo 2553 - W282 EYG and various buses from Thurmaston (at the time of writing these being: 4783 - S255 JUA, 4795 - W366 VGJ and 9001 - YJ59 AYY). The Thurmaston loan buses are often rotated.
CX04 EHY is actually fleet number 2742.
2742 operating route 49a yesterday: www.flickr.com/photos/81543024@N06/14714833891/
Quote from: stuartn on July 23, 2014, 12:34:54 PM
Quote from: 47609FireFly on July 23, 2014, 11:59:49 AM
2614 - V614 KDA on loan to South Wigston depot: https://www.facebook.com/leicesterbuspage/photos/a.807748065925312.1073741828.807449195955199/821729317860520/?type=1&theater
2752 - CX04 EHY is also on loan to South Wigston, along with Solo 2553 - W282 EYG and various buses from Thurmaston (at the time of writing these being: 4783 - S255 JUA, 4795 - W366 VGJ and 9001 - YJ59 AYY). The Thurmaston loan buses are often rotated.
CX04 EHY is actually fleet number 2742.
2742 operating route 49a yesterday: www.flickr.com/photos/81543024@N06/14714833891/
CX04 EHY is indeed 2742. Slip of the finger on my part.
2741 - CX04 EHW is also now working from Wigston.
Training bus 9525, (which Tony's photo site shows as based at Wigston), was on the A5 this morning at Stonydelph, and it looked like it headed off the M42 roundabout straight on towards Dordon.
http://wmbusphotos.com/Arriva/9525.html
Are any of the Sapphire spec E400's due soon? I read that they were due in August but they don't appear to be here still?
Any info on this would be appreciated :)
Thanks
2614 is back from Leicester - I have just seen it (unusually) on the Tamworth 4/5/7.
September
The Derby examples are being launches at some point this week I believe
I heard that the Derby service starts on the 18th.
2619 is now back in Tamworth. It was working the (revised) service 3 today with a paper route number stuck to the windscreen.
Indeed the service 38 is being converted to Sapphire on 18th August.
Some pictures of the launch are at: www.facebook.com/ArrivaMidlandsEast
Citaro 3010 has been on hire to Telford and been employed on 481's, gutted I missed a bash on this and ended up on 3781 instead, Burtons 3779 is on hire to Tamworth I believe
Volvo B6 2615 has been withdrawn from Tamworth
Quote from: Busman Jamie on August 13, 2014, 01:23:59 PM
Citaro 3010 has been on hire to Telford and been employed on 481's, gutted I missed a bash on this and ended up on 3781 instead, Burtons 3779 is on hire to Tamworth I believe
3779 is Telford's.
3779 is a Leicester one
Quote from: Ashley on August 17, 2014, 08:47:06 AM
3779 is a Leicester one
it isn't 3776-3778 are Leicester 3779 is the unbranded one from TELFORD
My mistake, sorry
Telford's 3779 was on Tamworth route 8/9 today.
Telford's 3779 (at Tamworth) worked 14.15 765 Nuneaton to Lichfield then 16.00 785 Lichfield to Shuttington both yesterday and today. Tamworth's 3010 (at Telford) worked the 13.15 481 Stafford to Telford yesterday.
3779 on the 110 this morning.
Don't think I've seen it mentioned here previously, but it's been suggested by someone on my WMBU Facebook page that the 110 Birmingham to Tamworth service, as well as being upgraded to Sapphire status, is also going to become a 24hr service too? Any truth in this?
If it did Stu, I would say that was a smart move by Arriva.
Quote from: trident4370 on September 09, 2014, 01:08:57 AM
If it did Stu, I would say that was a smart move by Arriva.
Part of me agrees but I'm also thinking who would use it at 1am?
Quote from: Ashley on September 09, 2014, 07:54:14 AM
Quote from: trident4370 on September 09, 2014, 01:08:57 AM
If it did Stu, I would say that was a smart move by Arriva.
Part of me agrees but I'm also thinking who would use it at 1am?
Maybe a few from Birmingham to Sutton, but at 3am Monday to Friday morning?
Quote from: Tony on September 09, 2014, 09:16:46 AM
Quote from: Ashley on September 09, 2014, 07:54:14 AM
Quote from: trident4370 on September 09, 2014, 01:08:57 AM
If it did Stu, I would say that was a smart move by Arriva.
Part of me agrees but I'm also thinking who would use it at 1am?
Maybe a few from Birmingham to Sutton, but at 3am Monday to Friday morning?
May appeal at weekends to people in Tamworth wanting to go to Birmingham on a night out perhaps but apart from that
Thanks for the replies guys! As no-one else seems to have come across this rumour already, I'm just going to assume that the guy on my Facebook page is just spouting more rubbish again. 8)
3779 is on the Tamworth 4/5/7 today.
Whats peoples view on the way Arriva are handling the Tamworth to Lichfield corridor? Why all of a sudden did they introduce the X65? Is it because of the success of the expre55? Which if so proves they are not interested in passangers at all and just the dollar!!!
Quote from: Dutsey on September 12, 2014, 11:51:29 AM
Whats peoples view on the way Arriva are handling the Tamworth to Lichfield corridor? Why all of a sudden did they introduce the X65? Is it because of the success of the expre55? Which if so proves they are not interested in passangers at all and just the dollar!!!
Basically it is as you see it, a reactive response to Central Buses introducing their expr55
Im surprised arriva have never competed of lichfield to burton express service to be honest. Id imagine its pretty lucrative
It may be worth extending the X65 express to Burton and operating it from both Burton and Tamworth,though traditionally cross Lichfield routes such as the 825 from Stafford to Tamworth did not last long.
Thought the 825 tamworth to stafford ran for years and years? ??
I am very surprised there is not a Tamworth - Burton Bus link via the Hospital
The 813 Tamworth to Burton experiment got very few customers - they're different worlds! It's now down to a college run each way.
Notice that the rerouted 3/3A now runs along the Lichfield road from the Fox as well so there are now 4 routes from what was 1!
Quote from: andy on September 12, 2014, 05:10:42 PM
Quote from: derningtona on September 12, 2014, 04:52:31 PM
The 813 Tamworth to Burton experiment got very few customers - they're different worlds! It's now down to a college run each way.
Notice that the rerouted 3/3A now runs along the Lichfield road from the Fox as well so there are now 4 routes from what was 1!
The '3' (or 1 as it was then) always ran down Lichfield Road and it was yet another blunder by Arriva to suspend the bi directional circular and turn it into a Fontenaye Road terminator, completely removing half the buses from Lichfield Road which used to carry a fair few passengers. It was also much quicker for Coton Green passengers to travel via Lichfield Rd into town on the 3 and back on the 1, rather than trawling through the Leyfields and down the congested Comberford/Ashby Roads. Consquently passenger numbers dropped. I'm not surprised they've put it back at last.
Now they need to look at restoring the 5 (or 6 as it was) to Amington Road as that was an equally stupid decision.
It looks like they are really trying to stop Central Buses , I just hope they don't win.
I noticed the 3 and 3A running along the Lichfield Road, It is a shame one doesn't run along the Buckingham Road Estate that's interesting, lets hope it is back for the long hall. With the uni links I do not understand why they dont run the 825 like they used to.
I've just seen 3779 on the Tamworth local 4/5/7 again.
On Saturday there was the classic allocation of 2614 on the 2, 2617 on the 3A and 2919 on the 3 (2613 on the 6). All change today - 3001 was on the 4/5/7 and 3002 was on the 3. Unfortunately I ran out of time to find 3000 as I was held up on the A5 due to a bad accident.
Quote from: derningtona on September 29, 2014, 08:54:31 PM
On Saturday there was the classic allocation of 2614 on the 2, 2617 on the 3A and 2919 on the 3 (2613 on the 6). All change today - 3001 was on the 4/5/7 and 3002 was on the 3. Unfortunately I ran out of time to find 3000 as I was held up on the A5 due to a bad accident.
Have Tamworths B6's been withdrawn?
I think they have gone to Telford. 2613 remains on the 6 in its special livery.
B9's 4201-4 are heading to Cannock, 4205-7 are going to Wigston, 4200 will remain at Tamworth for use on the Aston Villa route. 2613 has left to go to Telford I've been told. Citaro demo 9903 is back at Tamworth for the next couple of weeks at least.
Itll be good to see deckers back on the roads of cannock!
Quote from: 2200 Bus on October 01, 2014, 11:08:29 PM
B9's 4201-4 are heading to Cannock, 4205-7 are going to Wigston, 4200 will remain at Tamworth for use on the Aston Villa route. 2613 has left to go to Telford I've been told. Citaro demo 9903 is back at Tamworth for the next couple of weeks at least.
See post I put in Cannock garage thread, The B6s have turned up at Wardles
2613 was still on the 6 on Monday the 29th but today Citaro 9903 is on it! In case anyone didn't know, the 780 contract is now with Solus, so that is one bus less required.
some the new buses on 110 from today https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/15253077617/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/15252858829/in/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/15253016538/in/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/15252905530/in/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/15253040477/in/photostream/
After nearly 2 weeks with Citaro demonstrator 9903 on it, the 6 was operated today by ordinary Citaro 3005.
4200 is still regularly on the 110 - I was on it from Sutton to Tamworth today.
Quote from: derningtona on October 13, 2014, 07:32:14 PM
After nearly 2 weeks with Citaro demonstrator 9903 on it, the 6 was operated today by ordinary Citaro 3005.
4200 is still regularly on the 110 - I was on it from Sutton to Tamworth today.
The Enviros are having well..shall we say a couple of teething problems.
Quote from: 2200 Bus on October 13, 2014, 07:46:59 PM
The Enviros are having well..shall we say a couple of teething problems.
Might one of those be anything to do with the onboard "next stop" announcements? :) :) :)
Yes - different on each bus I go on. Sometimes off, sometimes on , sometimes stuck at "Ventura Park". "Bedford RoadRoad" amuses quite a few people and "Coleshill Road" comes up even though the buses no longer go that way.
On another note, demonstrator 9903 is still around - it was on the 3 today. 3806 was on the 6!
In Sutton today and noticed the 110 were coming in doubles, can anybody advise what was happening?
There are road works with 3 way lights between Ventura Park and Fazeley and the buses have been chaotic all week as I have been travelling from Tamworth to Good Hope Hospital daily.
X65 axed, looks like Central have won then..
I didnt see an x60 listed on fridays n & p andy? Unless I missed it?
Just out of interest, I wonder if tamworth are going to operate any x60 trips or whether itll be purely cannock, and are stafford getting the 825 back...
Are X60s going to directly replace some 60 trips then? Presumably the X part of the route wont be between cannock and lichfield, as the previous X60 was an abject failure
Why would that happen? The 765 is a seperate route. Hopefully Tamworth will do the X60, citaros beat pulsars hands down. 60/825 situation would depend if theres a reduction in 60 frequency wouldn't it? As at present theyre both half hourly routes although youd never guess it given the horrific timekeeping caused by the stafford end of the route. A problem the X25 is going to struggle with on the lichfield road
Staffords had bad traffic for the 7 years ive worked there. Absolutely crap road system. Bad enough normally but hell on earth if anything happens on the motorway. Knowing this, Arriva decide to downgrade the garage and stupidly interwork two important interurban services ( 60/825), & an important interurban (70) & a largely pretty quiet route (76). Its caused major issues at the wolves end before now too.Crazy.
I can believe it. Now I know you think I slag cannock off but I remember midland red days ( in fact my best mates dad drove for cannock depot in the 90s),& I hust dont remember the tigers/nationals/olympians having many breakdown issues. Certainly not like arrivas buses the last few years. Although things have slightly improved lately. What do you think of the 1/2/2a streetlites? Id give them 5 out of ten. Nice interior nice seats but shocking and I mean shocking jetky gearboxes which are jerky during changes but downright violent in kickdown. They actually do throw passengerz forward violently! Pensioners dont like it. Imagine a metro bus when they used to approach top gear with quite a hard kick ( usually when not accelerating like going down a hill eg) & times it by 10 thats what a kickdown is like
Quote from: andy on December 01, 2014, 11:35:24 PM
Quote from: Bob on December 01, 2014, 11:01:03 PM
I didnt see an x60 listed on fridays n & p andy? Unless I missed it?
It went largely un noticed by many but somebody with an eagle eye over on the Central thread has apparently spotted it. I haven't seen it myself.
I would strongly suspect that Tamworth and Cannock will share the X60 although there is still to be a 60 I believe, so it may be that Tamworth do the whole of the X60 and Cannock retain the 60 and 825 as they are. Personally I would want the 825 back at Stafford for reliability reasons, but it may be that with the new X25 aswell they can't take such an increase.
If this X60 is correct, it may be a clever move. When I was driving for Tamworth, many of the Lichfield to Tamworth passengers used to travel from the Burntwood to Lichfield corridor and connect onto the 765. This may be a good way to get some passengers back from Central.
My only hope is that this situation doesn't end up screwing up the long standing facilities that the villagers of Whittington have enjoyed.
I think journeys terminating at Lichfield are still 60 and those that carry on to Tamworth will show X60. As said in the Central thread the X60 I believe will be half hourly so a slight increase in the X65 frequency. I'm with Andy here, Whittington could well lose out, can see Arriva cutting 765/785 back at Tamworth, why would anyone catch that between Lichfield and Tamworth when there are 3-4 fast buses per hour. Any replacement service (emergent tender I would suspect) would offer nowhere near a 30 minute frequency
Is the X65 currently performing well then? Oh yes andy definitely have a few rides on streetlites if you can. Awful awful gearbox. The worst was 3306 I think. Evrry time a bit of power was needed ( like pulling from the stop at the 40mph bit of the A34, screaming kickdown ( that sounds a bit naff due to small engine etc), & thrown forward. The gears change far to quickly when ppulling off too. I cant believe Wright would make such a piece of crap. Dare I say it even Pulsars may have been a better choice for the routes.
Quote from: Bob on December 02, 2014, 11:50:13 AM
Is the X65 currently performing well then? Oh yes andy definitely have a few rides on streetlites if you can. Awful awful gearbox. The worst was 3306 I think. Evrry time a bit of power was needed ( like pulling from the stop at the 40mph bit of the A34, screaming kickdown ( that sounds a bit naff due to small engine etc), & thrown forward. The gears change far to quickly when ppulling off too. I cant believe Wright would make such a piece of crap. Dare I say it even Pulsars may have been a better choice for the routes.
Wright don't make the gearbox (or engine for that matter). Its not entirely their fault they have been set up incorrectly, that is the fault of the gearbox manufacturer (as I believe Andy has already said on here) to be rectified. Similarly, with a Pulsar unless someone can correct me here, VDL don't make the gearbox, I guess it has just been set up correctly.
True. But according to forum it was about three weeks ago that voith were supposed to have come and fixed things either thry have and its failed or they've not been. The pulsars kickdown a lot but dont throw people forward everywhere
This morning I saw FJ08 LVL sitting outside Macdonalds at Ventura Park. The route stated JL1 John Lewis Redditch. Is this a customer service or for workers?
How often does this run?
Quote from: Dutsey on December 05, 2014, 12:05:56 PM
This morning I saw FJ08 LVL sitting outside Macdonalds at Ventura Park. The route stated JL1 John Lewis Redditch. Is this a customer service or for workers?
How often does this run?
You may see NXWM heading down to John Lewis at Redditch as well. They are contract services
Have seen the X60 timetable on staffs website
Its definitely not geared toward an express service from cannock to lichfield and wouldnt be great for people going between burntwood and tamworth either! Every trip through the daytime arrives in Lichfield and waits fifteen minutes or more before departing tamworth bound! Could they not have made it a bit better than that? Jeeeeez
Seems a bit silly though Andy it takes exactly minute for minute the same time from cannock to lichfield as the 60, so I dont get where theyre coming from with the express thing. Youd be mislead going from cannock, & if your going from end to end its an hour and fifteen. They may as well have left it as it was and just kept the X65. Also its half hourly from cannock at 20 & 50 past the hour and the 60 is 05 & 35, so four buses an hour daytime from cannock five if you count the 62. Can that last? ???
I wouldn't say its been neglected though. Eg the 60 has been every 30 minutes since 2007 in 860 days wasnt it only hourly? The 62s a bit of a joke though & still usually gets the crappest buses
Quote from: Bob on December 17, 2014, 07:34:08 PM
Seems a bit silly though Andy it takes exactly minute for minute the same time from cannock to lichfield as the 60, so I dont get where theyre coming from with the express thing. Youd be mislead going from cannock, & if your going from end to end its an hour and fifteen. They may as well have left it as it was and just kept the X65. Also its half hourly from cannock at 20 & 50 past the hour and the 60 is 05 & 35, so four buses an hour daytime from cannock five if you count the 62. Can that last? ???
Check the notes again on the timetable, the 60 runs until 9th Jan (or 10th Jan for the Saturday service), the X60 from the 12th Jan (17th Jan Saturday), so still only half hourly between Cannock and Lichfield, just slightly retimed.
Quote from: andy on December 17, 2014, 08:32:52 PM
Quote from: Cheese on December 17, 2014, 08:29:48 PM
Quote from: Bob on December 17, 2014, 07:34:08 PM
Seems a bit silly though Andy it takes exactly minute for minute the same time from cannock to lichfield as the 60, so I dont get where theyre coming from with the express thing. Youd be mislead going from cannock, & if your going from end to end its an hour and fifteen. They may as well have left it as it was and just kept the X65. Also its half hourly from cannock at 20 & 50 past the hour and the 60 is 05 & 35, so four buses an hour daytime from cannock five if you count the 62. Can that last? ???
Check the notes again on the timetable, the 60 runs until 9th Jan (or 10th Jan for the Saturday service), the X60 from the 12th Jan (17th Jan Saturday), so still only half hourly between Cannock and Lichfield, just slightly retimed.
That will teach me to listen to Bob :)
Not always good for sanity :)
Traveline doesn't do a great job of displaying this sort of change sadly, it doesn't half look a mess, especially when the notes reach 14 or something...
Is that not four buses per hour. ...
No. Note 1 states until 9th Jan, Note 2 states from 12th Jan. Still 2 buses per hour.
To the untrained eye thats very confusing!
Quote from: Bob on December 17, 2014, 09:25:21 PM
To the untrained eye thats very confusing!
As already mentioned above the way Traveline displays service changeover dates is not very user-friendly. Have tried and failed to suggest some alternative ways for this to be displayed.
How is the competing going with Central? As when I see the central bus always tends to be more patronage on it. Also from speaking to users on the Xpre55 they appear to enjoy the service more.
Quote from: Dutsey on December 18, 2014, 03:36:40 PM
How is the competing going with Central? As when I see the central bus always tends to be more patronage on it. Also from speaking to users on the Xpre55 they appear to enjoy the service more.
Not surprising, the Xpre55 is normally on time!
There's a picture of 3004 on the X60 on facebook taken today
Quote from: Squirrel on December 18, 2014, 05:37:01 PM
Quote from: Dutsey on December 18, 2014, 03:36:40 PM
How is the competing going with Central? As when I see the central bus always tends to be more patronage on it. Also from speaking to users on the Xpre55 they appear to enjoy the service more.
Not surprising, the Xpre55 is normally on time!
Theres some horrendous temporary lights on tge X60 route just before it turns off to go by waitrose in and out of lichfield. Causing really crap delays I was 30min late for work this morning. That will affect the reliability of the route a fair bit. Wonder if the stafford diversion and roadworks which are going to last a while will affect patronage on the X25. Saw a versa stafford bound in Brereton at 4.45pm ish tonight, only a handful on board
Arriva pretty much chop and change and cancel without giving services a chance previous x60/74A/326/19....its not really been plugged very much either has it?
Quote from: Bob on January 14, 2015, 09:17:52 PM
Arriva pretty much chop and change and cancel without giving services a chance previous x60/74A/326/19....its not really been plugged very much either has it?
The old X25 used to be very popular with daytrippers in the summer, they need to ramp up promotions and marketing for the spring and give it a chance. There is definitely potential.
Quote from: Bob on January 14, 2015, 09:17:52 PM
Arriva pretty much chop and change and cancel without giving services a chance previous x60/74A/326/19....its not really been plugged very much either has it?
Which 326 are you referring to?
Quote from: Bob on January 14, 2015, 09:17:52 PM
Arriva pretty much chop and change and cancel without giving services a chance previous x60/74A/326/19....its not really been plugged very much either has it?
Umm Bob, there haven't been any changes to the 326 since before Diamond had it, and if there had been, i would've known as i use it daily, and in all fairness, the 326 is really quite reliable
Sorry not 326...which was the merry hill one that got withdrawn?
Yea thats the one I meant
Quote from: Bob on January 14, 2015, 09:36:29 PM
Sorry not 326...which was the merry hill one that got withdrawn?
The 310, which was a good effort to give a direct Merry Hill link from an area like Willenhall but the end to end journey time was too long , people did use it though
The 19, not enough demand with the 89 from Bloxwich, 69 from New Invention and 59 from Ashmore Park so Arriva didn't stand a chance on the Lichfield Road corridor
How all this got into the Tamworth thread I don't know and ive probably wasted five minutes of my life writing this due to Bobs persistence of slating Arriva continuously from a keypad when theyre not all that bad and are at least trying to make a go of it in the black country
Might be trying but theyre not exactly having much success or impact
Quote from: Bob on January 14, 2015, 10:56:54 PM
Might be trying but theyre not exactly having much success or impact
Doesn't make them a write off though nor are they worthy of a constant slating on the internet
They took over a two bit operator with not many good routes they had a chance in the Midlands when they took over chase and messed that up. They arent gonna make a dent in nx's largely monopoly realistically are they? If they didn't have Cannock services going regularly into the WM all theyd have that was worth having is the 110 & a couple of hourly services into wolves from Shropshire which now only require midibuses...
Quote from: Bob on January 14, 2015, 11:18:51 PM
They took over a two bit operator with not many good routes they had a chance in the Midlands when they took over chase and messed that up. They arent gonna make a dent in nx's largely monopoly realistically are they? If they didn't have Cannock services going regularly into the WM all theyd have that was worth having is the 110 & a couple of hourly services into wolves from Shropshire which now only require midibuses...
Still doesn't warrant your continuous derogatory drivel.
MB demo 9903 is currently with GHA -
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/gha-group-photos/16262410986/
What ever happened to Arrivas express services to Birmingham the X73 , X74 and X75 I believe. Surely one of these could be brought back.
The X73 is run by Heartlands or Acorn or whatever they're called this week!
They tried the X74 about 6/7 years ago, it flopped. It was only about 5mins quicker than the 110/116 if I recall correctly
citaro 3004 in Cannock on the X60 this morning,is this a regular occurrence,haven't really been monitoring the route,always seems to be pulsars
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gardnergav/16525739752/
thanks
Its been pretty much on the X60 daily since the service began. Id imagine its just a loan. Tamworth would want it back. Itd be knackered after a year of maintenance at cannock
Quote from: Bob on February 14, 2015, 01:54:38 PM
Its been pretty much on the X60 daily since the service began. Id imagine its just a loan. Tamworth would want it back. Itd be knackered after a year of maintenance at cannock
Transferred back in Jan. Cannock have 1 board on the X60 I believe.
1 board?
Quote from: Bob on February 14, 2015, 06:57:54 PM
1 board?
@BN How is there only 1 board? I photographed at least 2, if not 3 today, all Cannock buses (3730, 3809 and 3004*)
Quote from: Alex on February 14, 2015, 07:21:02 PM
Quote from: Bob on February 14, 2015, 06:57:54 PM
1 board?
@BN How is there only 1 board? I photographed at least 2, if not 3 today, all Cannock buses (3730, 3809 and 3004*)
As this is the Tamworth Thread it was obviously just a simple typo. Tamworth have one board hence 3004
Quote from: Alex on February 14, 2015, 07:21:02 PM
Quote from: Bob on February 14, 2015, 06:57:54 PM
1 board?
@BN How is there only 1 board? I photographed at least 2, if not 3 today, all Cannock buses (3730, 3809 and 3004*)
"I believe", people get things wrong you know.
Quote from: Tony on February 14, 2015, 07:25:38 PM
Quote from: Alex on February 14, 2015, 07:21:02 PM
Quote from: Bob on February 14, 2015, 06:57:54 PM
1 board?
@BN How is there only 1 board? I photographed at least 2, if not 3 today, all Cannock buses (3730, 3809 and 3004*)
As this is the Tamworth Thread it was obviously just a simple typo. Tamworth have one board hence 3004
Sounds about right Tony, i think Cannock have taken 1 board from Tamworth.
Quote from: BN on February 14, 2015, 07:28:36 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 14, 2015, 07:25:38 PM
Quote from: Alex on February 14, 2015, 07:21:02 PM
Quote from: Bob on February 14, 2015, 06:57:54 PM
1 board?
@BN How is there only 1 board? I photographed at least 2, if not 3 today, all Cannock buses (3730, 3809 and 3004*)
As this is the Tamworth Thread it was obviously just a simple typo. Tamworth have one board hence 3004
Sounds about right Tony, i think Cannock have taken 1 board from Tamworth.
@BN Sorry bout that, i misread that
Dunno why the unusual working thread was locked but...
Theres at least two Citaros (3007 and 3017) on the 110 today, no timings because I've spent the day drinking...
4200 has finally lost its Sapphire 'Coming Soon' livery, now looks very plain back in normal livery
2738 on loan to Tamworth. Wouldn't mind that on the 110 ;)
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on May 19, 2015, 07:01:13 PM
2738 on loan to Tamworth. Wouldn't mind that on the 110 ;)
It's now a Tamworth bus...covering for Scania repaints
Quote from: 2200 Bus on May 19, 2015, 09:27:49 PM
It's now a Tamworth bus...covering for Scania repaints
Is it just repaints or re-trims too?
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on May 19, 2015, 07:01:13 PM
2738 on loan to Tamworth. Wouldn't mind that on the 110 ;)
2nd photo down on Tony's site -->clicky<-- (http://wmbusphotos.com/Arriva/2738.html)
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on May 19, 2015, 09:59:42 PM
Is it just repaints or re-trims too?
Yeah, leather seats, underseat lighting and USB points.
Quote from: 2200 Bus on May 21, 2015, 06:38:15 PM
Yeah, leather seats, underseat lighting and USB points.
Sounds good, is this a generic MAX or Sapphire upgrade?
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on May 21, 2015, 07:28:48 PM
Sounds good, is this a generic MAX or Sapphire upgrade?
That's more than likey Sapphire spec if there are changing points.
Quote from: Reece on May 21, 2015, 09:03:06 PM
That's more than likey Sapphire spec if there are changing points.
Charging points have started to appear on MAX spec buses eg X1 StreetLites in NE and even on standard ex London Enviro200's on one of my local city routes Durham 64.
Are all scanias being done or just some? Maybe as sapphire spare buses?
Quote from: Bob on May 21, 2015, 11:44:34 PM
Are all scanias being done or just some? Maybe as sapphire spare buses?
All to be done I believe. They wouldn't necessarily be spare for the 110, just sort of upgrading the routes they operate currently (6, 115, 116, 765, 785)
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on May 22, 2015, 12:24:32 AM
All to be done I believe. They wouldn't necessarily be spare for the 110, just sort of upgrading the routes they operate currently (6, 115, 116, 765, 785)
3501-3will be in a MIRA livery for the 765, 3507 3508 will have the same interior as the MIRA ones and 3509 will be a standard repaint.
MIRA?
Quote from: Bob on May 23, 2015, 10:53:20 AM
MIRA?
Yes on the A5 they're building a large buisness park there, this is also why Hinckley Bus are having now solos too.
Quote from: 2200 Bus on May 24, 2015, 09:29:06 AM
Yes on the A5 they're building a large buisness park there, this is also why Hinckley Bus are having now solos too.
Solos?
Quote from: BN on May 24, 2015, 12:06:49 PM
Solos?
You have said yourself in the Hinkley Bus thread that they are! (Someone said they were getting 3 to which you replied they are getting 4)
Quote from: Nathan on May 24, 2015, 12:14:42 PM
You have said yourself in the Hinkley Bus thread that they are! (Someone said they were getting 3 to which you replied they are getting 4)
BN has said there are no Solo SRs coming
Quote from: leepenfold30 on April 26, 2015, 02:15:03 PM
Any news when Solo SRS heading For Hinckley Bus
Quote from: BN on April 26, 2015, 02:24:03 PM
Solo SR's? haven't got any of those coming.
Quote from: John on May 24, 2015, 01:25:41 PM
BN has said there are no Solo SRs coming
Nathan,
That was exactly it. I have never mentioned what Manufacturer they will come from, just to correct that there will be 4 not 3.
BN it's 4 E200s now for Hinckley Bus they having MIRA Livery on them same as Tamworth buses
Quote from: leepenfold30 on May 28, 2015, 08:43:03 AM
BN it's 4 E200s now for Hinckley Bus they having MIRA Livery on them same as Tamworth buses
I think
@BN knows that, knowing what his job is, you will also see I posted the details in the Hinckley Bus thread some time ago
Tony are Hinckley & Tamworth sharing the MIRA Route on July 20th
With the 765 running from Tamworth soon instead of Lichfield, what service will be going through Whittington?
Quote from: Dutsey on June 17, 2015, 03:30:58 PM
With the 765 running from Tamworth soon instead of Lichfield, what service will be going through Whittington?
785 will continue to go through Whittington as it currently does.
Will that mean Whittington gets an hourly instead of half hourly service?
Quote from: Bob on June 17, 2015, 05:03:57 PM
Will that mean Whittington gets an hourly instead of half hourly service?
Yes. Somewhat predictable really.
Well to be fair theres a ridiculous amount of buses between lichfield and tamworth it cant continue for ever. Shame Whittington residents lose out though. Theres still 4 express buses per hour which is ludicrous. Surely theres nowhere near enough patronage and one or the other firm will pull out or reduce
Quote from: Bob on June 17, 2015, 11:21:05 PM
Well to be fair theres a ridiculous amount of buses between lichfield and tamworth it cant continue for ever. Shame Whittington residents lose out though. Theres still 4 express buses per hour which is ludicrous. Surely theres nowhere near enough patronage and one or the other firm will pull out or reduce
A fair amount of people use all services. More people at the Cannock end of the X60 are catching it to Tamworth too.
Still doesn't warrant the amount of services and it wont last forever. The central service usually seems busier when ever I see it on days I work in lichfield.
They should make at least one of the two per hour fast between cannock and lichfield. Cos its a right long trip otherwise and the X is misleading cos cannock to lichfield is the exact same route as the 60.
Passed a Sapphire E400 on the M6 this afternoon at around 13:45 heading southbound between J10 and J12.
The latest photo of the arriva's omnilink on main site is that Arrivas new livery?
Quote from: Chris on July 08, 2015, 11:03:04 PM
The latest photo of the arriva's omnilink on main site is that Arrivas new livery?
There were discussions while ago about that livery in the previous page if you want to find out more
When I first saw the white I thought it was undercoat! I think it looks cheap compared with the cream.
I wonder whether the MIRA buses will stick to route. The previous two liveries always seemed to be mixed indiscriminately.
Quote from: derningtona on July 09, 2015, 05:15:43 PM
I wonder whether the MIRA buses will stick to route...
Well two of the Omnilinks have already been on the 116, so no
Are all the Omnilinks going to get the refurb treatment or just the mira ones
Quote from: Kevin on July 10, 2015, 06:25:41 AM
Well two of the Omnilinks have already been on the 116, so no
The MIRA route doesn't start until a week on monday, so you tell me which routes they're supposed to stick to?
Quote from: 2200 Bus on July 10, 2015, 04:36:21 PM
The MIRA route doesn't start until a week on monday, so you tell me which routes they're supposed to stick to?
Ah, well consider me not up to speed on such news then, figured as they're branded then the route exists, because you know, logic
Are citaros on x60 and scanias on 765?
Cannock operate X60. They have, oddly, 1 Citaro which is usually on there. The rest is usually 52/06 plate commanders, cadets and the odd remaining 61 plate pulsar if they havent left yet
Quote from: Kevin on July 10, 2015, 07:41:35 PM
Ah, well consider me not up to speed on such news then, figured as they're branded then the route exists, because you know, logic
Logic is that you wouldn't keep 3 buses dead for weeks...
Quote from: 2200 Bus on July 11, 2015, 03:16:40 PM
Logic is that you wouldn't keep 3 buses dead for weeks...
Weeks? Why are they branded already then?
Quote from: Kevin on July 11, 2015, 05:42:44 PM
Weeks? Why are they branded already then?
All three are yeah...3503 came straight from MRC with vinyls applied. 3501 and 02 were done on Monday.
Quote from: 2200 Bus on July 11, 2015, 08:26:22 PM
All three are yeah...3503 came straight from MRC with vinyls applied. 3501 and 02 were done on Monday.
Yeah I know they're branded, but why so soon? Surely they can be done the day before a new service starts not weeks?
The company doing it had to he them done early to free up this week to do Telford branding
Will there be enough patronage from Tamworth to Mira?
Quote from: Dutsey on July 12, 2015, 08:28:24 PM
Will there be enough patronage from Tamworth to Mira?
I would have though this service would be subsidised by MIRA, so it won't matter at first. If when the subsidy ends, there isn't enough patronage to make it viable, it will no doubt be axed.
Paid for by Regional Growth Fund and funded for 5 years
Well done to Arriva, all the buses this morning appear to have pink ribbon on the front today in remembrance of Sue Davey (Murdered in Tunisia Attack) as it is her funeral in Tamworth today
Quote from: D10 on July 12, 2015, 08:43:26 PM
I would have though this service would be subsidised by MIRA, so it won't matter at first. If when the subsidy ends, there isn't enough patronage to make it viable, it will no doubt be axed.
Looking at the timetabe a journey over 75 mins between Tamworth and Mira which IMHO is far to long when you can get there is a car in about 30 mins. I wonder how the first couple of days have gone
Quote from: Dutsey on July 21, 2015, 03:57:33 PM
Looking at the timetabe a journey over 75 mins between Tamworth and Mira which IMHO is far to long when you can get there is a car in about 30 mins. I wonder how the first couple of days have gone
There are a number of other places on this service such as Polesworth, Atherstone and Nuneaton, not just Tamworth... And it is the school holidays remember, I think there is a college on site at MIRA as well isn't there? They won't be back until September.
Saw too non Sapphires today. An un identified Citaro and Gemini 4200 are both on the 110 today.
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on August 10, 2015, 02:41:34 PM
Saw too non Sapphires today. An un identified Citaro and Gemini 4200 are both on the 110 today.
3001
Maybe Tamworth would benefit from having a couple of extra new Enviro400s as spares
maybe they could have some of cannocks surplus s###elites lol
Yeh I think they do need some other Sapphire buses for backup. Maybe Streetlites would be a good choice and they could use them on the night or on Sunday's when the service isn't as busy.
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on August 10, 2015, 06:03:23 PM
Yeh I think they do need some other Sapphire buses for backup. Maybe Streetlites would be a good choice and they could use them on the night or on Sunday's when the service isn't as busy.
Streetlites on the 110? Hellfire but utter madness. If they were set up for speed maybe, but I doubt none are.
There may be Streetlites on the 110 sooner than you think
Theyre like snails though. Ok once theyve picked up speed but so slow pulling away!
Apparently it's going to happen. Secretly I'm happy if its true.
I passed one of Tamworth's Sapphire 110 deckers yesterday in Cannock. I was entering Cannock on the A5 at the big new roundabout and it was going the other way round the roundabout - either towards Tamworth or Walsall but unfortunately I couldn't see where or what it was doing.
ah that explains why they were one bus short at least
Quote from: derningtona on August 11, 2015, 09:04:35 AM
I passed one of Tamworth's Sapphire 110 deckers yesterday in Cannock. I was entering Cannock on the A5 at the big new roundabout and it was going the other way round the roundabout - either towards Tamworth or Walsall but unfortunately I couldn't see where or what it was doing.
Up for MOT at cannock
Quote from: williamposh on August 10, 2015, 06:42:44 PM
There may be Streetlites on the 110 sooner than you think
Really? Streetlites on a route that NX are increasing frequency on?
NX dont operate the 110???
Quote from: Bob on August 11, 2015, 09:35:37 PM
NX dont operate the 110???
NX operate the 904 wich competes with the 110 between Good Hope Hospital and Birmingham City Centre.
Not the same route then....
Quote from: Bob on August 11, 2015, 09:35:37 PM
NX dont operate the 110???
Oh I do apologise I meant "corridor"
Quote from: Bob on August 11, 2015, 09:50:58 PM
Not the same route then....
Follows exactly the same route for 26 minutes.
Found these on Vosa
Wasn't sure were to post them
D0000478/432 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Birmingham
Finish Point: Redditch
Via: Selly Oak
Service Number: JL2
Service Type: Limited Stop
Effective Date: 04-OCT-2015
Other Details: Daily Couple of Journeys to convey shift workers
PD0000478/433 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Stafford Town Centre
Finish Point: Moss Pit/High Fileds
Via: Wolverhampton Road
Service Number: 8B
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 02-NOV-2015
Other Details: Monday to Saturday daytime
Quote from: 2206 on September 10, 2015, 05:32:07 PM
Found these on Vosa
Wasn't sure were to post them
D0000478/432 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Registration Accepted by SN
Starting Point: Birmingham
Finish Point: Redditch
Via: Selly Oak
Service Number: JL2
Service Type: Limited Stop
Effective Date: 04-OCT-2015
Other Details: Daily Couple of Journeys to convey shift workers
PD0000478/433 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Stafford Town Centre
Finish Point: Moss Pit/High Fileds
Via: Wolverhampton Road
Service Number: 8B
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 02-NOV-2015
Other Details: Monday to Saturday daytime
The JL2 is a 'works service' to John Lewis in Redditch, Arriva ran it last year in the lead up to Christmas as well, presumably the 8B is in response to Select Travel's registration
Why register an 8? They could just throw in a few unregistered trips with some old darts. ...
Noticed a Sapphire branded Streetlite in the garage this morning. Any ideas on what service this will be used on? Surely not the 110?
Hi,
Yes I believe they are extra PVR for a timetable revision on the 110 service.
Tosher
Quote from: Tosher on September 11, 2015, 10:47:03 AM
Hi,
Yes I believe they are extra PVR for a timetable revision on the 110 service.
Tosher
What is the revision then? This route is already every 15mins.
Will probably run some "extra trips" from Sutton to brum.
3301 and 3302 now at Tamworth.
Quote from: Dutsey on September 11, 2015, 02:50:36 PM
What is the revision then? This route is already every 15mins.
Believe it's to aid reliability at busy times, partial rerouting if the expressway is busy.
They wouldn't dare and wouldn't make much money running extra trips against NXWM, unlike Social who they clearly want off...
They are actively blocking nxwm in Cannock & stafford though
Quote from: BN on September 11, 2015, 06:55:57 PM
3301 and 3302 now at Tamworth.
Have they been modified to make it up the slip road onto the Expressway? If so I'll be sitting on one with a big cheesy grin.
Cannocks pull away from bus stops at a snails pace so I'd imagine they'd have to do something to em!
the best modification for streetlites is scrap them
I'm just trying to imagine a Streetlite on the Expressway...
It's a horrible thought
I'd imagine that they'd be pretty loud
Travel news...... The aston expressway is currently closed in both directions due to arriva needing to run their new extra buses on the 110
Lol was that a swipe at sarcasm :-p
Me sarcastic surely not.
if the streetlites are so fantastic, why do cannock always run a 63 plate pulsar on 1/2
Quote from: Busman Jamie on September 11, 2015, 10:54:21 PM
the best modification for streetlites is scrap them
Yet another enthusiast expert......how is it that you are more capable than the chief engineers of Arriva and Firstgroup...what exactly are your qualifications for making such an absurd assertion?
how is my comment a mechanical 1? it was simply a question?
Take an optare solo that isn't the best bus ever built, then copy it "badly & cheaply" then have no real background maintenance for them (unless there is more than 6 at a time you can't get Wright to sort them ) then there you have it the Wright streetlight.
If they're really that good why did silverline regret buying them & revert back to adl products.
Quote from: Steveminor on September 13, 2015, 04:37:37 PM
Take an optare solo that isn't the best bus ever built, then copy it "badly & cheaply" then have no real background maintenance for them (unless there is more than 6 at a time you can't get Wright to sort them ) then there you have it the Wright streetlight.
If they're really that good why did silverline regret buying them & revert back to adl products.
I think there were teething troubles with initial ones but now they're absolutel fine. They ride well, don't rattle or wallow and are comfortable to travel on, Arriva Sapphire and First Olympia spec ones in particular where interiors are ligher than on stock built examples. The WF ones aren't as attractive as an Optare Solo SR though...
Quote from: Steveminor on September 13, 2015, 04:37:37 PM
Take an optare solo that isn't the best bus ever built, then copy it "badly & cheaply" then have no real background maintenance for them (unless there is more than 6 at a time you can't get Wright to sort them ) then there you have it the Wright streetlight.
If they're really that good why did silverline regret buying them & revert back to adl products.
Strange the senior engineers at Arriva, First, Stagecoach, Go-Ahead, National Express all have a different view. These people look at whole life costs, not just purchase price, so if they thought they wouldn't last, were built badly, or all the other accusations made, Wrights wouldn't have a full order book
They do rattle. 3306 rattles terribly. They also aren't smooth, not at all. And the scream they make when even a slightly higher bit of power is required... Theyre pretty unpleasant buses, a Citaro or B7rle or dare I say it at a push a Pulsar is much nicer to travel on.
Quote from: Bob on September 13, 2015, 05:03:22 PM
They do rattle. 3306 rattles terribly. They also aren't smooth, not at all. And the scream they make when even a slightly higher bit of power is required... Theyre pretty unpleasant buses, a Citaro or B7rle or dare I say it at a push a Pulsar is much nicer to travel on.
Do you know what Bob, don't know if you have travelled on an Arriva Citaro, but with those horrible seats they have fitted they are not nice for a long ride at all, give me one of the StreetLites any time for anything more than 15 minutes
Quote from: Tony on September 13, 2015, 05:06:11 PM
Do you know what Bob, don't know if you have travelled on an Arriva Citaro, but with those horrible seats they have fitted they are not nice for a long ride at all, give me one of the StreetLites any time for anything more than 15 minutes
Citaros are good, see McGills roadtest in route one, but the layout still isn't ideal, Go North East's have horrible cloth seat backs which get dirty really easily and layout at the back is cluttered at best and hard for passengers to use, seats on split levels next to one another etc.
I genuinely enjoy travelling on the Arriva Sapphire StreetLites, if set up well they can rival some of the best heavyweight buses on ride quality. Set up as on any vehicle, cars included, is important...
Yes I have Tony and agreed the seats aren't amazing but on the whole as a bus they're ten times better to be on. For example I couldn't listen to the screaming racket a Streetlite makes for long, or the juddery gearbox etc
Quote from: Bob on September 13, 2015, 06:24:20 PM
Yes I have Tony and agreed the seats aren't amazing but on the whole as a bus they're ten times better to be on. For example I couldn't listen to the screaming racket a Streetlite makes for long, or the juddery gearbox etc
Same Engine & Gearbox as the E200 while I know they are not perfect for a long ride, nobody complaining about the engine & gearbox
Yea but you could say a metro had same engine as a fleetline or certain olympians shared same engine and gearboxas metro, they were massively different. E 200 are far from perfect too, would nx use them for a premium route like platinum? ? In the same way as arriva have for sapphire?
Quote from: Bob on September 13, 2015, 07:13:04 PM
Yea but you could say a metro had same engine as a fleetline or certain olympians shared same engine and gearboxas metro, they were massively different. E 200 are far from perfect too, would nx use them for a premium route like platinum? ? In the same way as arriva have for sapphire?
I'm yet to sample one so cannot express my views however would love a ride on them
Quote from: Bob on September 13, 2015, 07:13:04 PM
Yea but you could say a metro had same engine as a fleetline or certain olympians shared same engine and gearboxas metro, they were massively different. E 200 are far from perfect too, would nx use them for a premium route like platinum? ? In the same way as arriva have for sapphire?
Metrobuses didn't have the same gearboxes as either Fleetlines or Olympians, but it is the gearboxes and engines you are moaning about on the Streetlite, one minute complaining about them screaming which would indicate they are set to change gear quite late, the next moaning about lack of powere because the change too early
Old Leyland Olympians had Voith and Gardner didn't they? Streetlites scream when they even try to go round a corner at times, and they do still do that thing where they scream and jerky occasionally. I just don't rate them. At all. Even pulsars were marginally better. Come on though for interurban premium services they're p## poor. Like I say can you imagine nx doing platinum e200s? Anyway maybe passengers weren't too keen, hence the resultant cuts to the service. I wonder how many other Sapphire routes nationwide have had their frequencies cut after being upgraded? Maybe BN could tell us? I suspect it's none or very few...
Quote from: Bob on September 13, 2015, 07:57:57 PM
Old Leyland Olympians had Voith and Gardner didn't they? Streetlites scream when they even try to go round a corner at times, and they do still do that thing where they scream and jerky occasionally. I just don't rate them. At all. Even pulsars were marginally better. Come on though for interurban premium services they're p## poor. Like I say can you imagine nx doing platinum e200s? Anyway maybe passengers weren't too keen, hence the resultant cuts to the service. I wonder how many other Sapphire routes nationwide have had their frequencies cut after being upgraded? Maybe BN could tell us? I suspect it's none or very few...
Yes NX would use an E200 if it needed a Platinum Single deck route, You don't moan about them on the 54 / 154. No Olympians has the three speed Voith the Metrobus had
Quote from: Tony on September 13, 2015, 05:06:11 PM
Do you know what Bob, don't know if you have travelled on an Arriva Citaro, but with those horrible seats they have fitted they are not nice for a long ride at all, give me one of the StreetLites any time for anything more than 15 minutes
Agreed! I had 3003 on the X60 to Lichfield from Cannock a few weeks ago, and I would have taken anything that turned up on the X12 after that!
Funny that none of the Streetlites I've been on seem to rattle as much as
@Bob makes out, and seem to have enough power for the 1/2/2E, even on the fast stretches on the 1, I've never encountered massive rattling, nothing worse than say, a Pulsar would on those roads.
Quote from: Alex on September 13, 2015, 08:26:30 PM
Agree200s on the ! I had 3003 on the X60 to Lichfield from Cannock a few weeks ago, and I would have taken anything that turned up on I the X12 after that!
Funny that none of the Streetlites I've been on seem to rattle as much as @Bob makes out, and seem to have enough power for the 1/2/2E, even on the fast stretches on the 1, I've never encountered massive rattling, nothing worse than say, a Pulsar would on those roads.
I didn't say all of them rattled? I said 3306 rattled quite badly. The NX e200s on the 154 aren't brilliant but despite the same engine and gearboxas seem slightly more sprightly than the Streetlites. I personally find the mercs fast smooth powerful and far superior to a Streetlite. Plus the fact that Streetlites are possibly one of the ugliest monstrosities to ever appear on the road. Personal tastes I suppose
I know when you talk to some arriva drivers personally they hate them & would rather drive a cadet than a streetlite. They tend to complain about the same thing bob goes on about, they scream as if they're at the top of the Rev band & should be changing gear when they're actually not. But then when they change gear they seem to be too low on revs & have no power as if they've changed gear to early. Obviously it's a different story when any management are around then the same driver will say they're the best thing since sliced bread.
I would suspect that the gear ratios may need tweaking.
I think they look good but I'd rather an e200 or even an old solo anyday
The new 110 timetable from Sunday 20th September
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/midlands/updates/sapphire-110s-sparkle-gets-even-brighter/ (https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/midlands/updates/sapphire-110s-sparkle-gets-even-brighter/)
Is the Arriva Sapphire 110 frequency increase anything to do with NXWM increasing the frequency of their Suttonlines recently?
Currently on board 3302 doing a 18:35 departure from brum.
Fair play the screens and announcements are correct, shame it's still got 1/2/2A branding all over it.
Side note: Timetable doesn't have a 18:35 service at the moment but the new one does, have they started it early?
Are the Streetlites only going to be used in the morning/evening?
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on September 14, 2015, 07:01:53 PM
Are the Streetlites only going to be used in the morning/evening?
You'd think, as that's the only time the frequency is increased. I'd guess they could stay out after the evening peak cause the loads then don't really warrant anything bigger
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on September 14, 2015, 07:01:53 PM
Are the Streetlites only going to be used in the morning/evening?
A Streetlite was on the 110 this lunchtime.
Quote from: Bob on September 13, 2015, 08:54:43 PM
I didn't say all of them rattled? I said 3306 rattled quite badly. The NX e200s on the 154 aren't brilliant but despite the same engine and gearboxas seem slightly more sprightly than the Streetlites. I personally find the mercs fast smooth powerful and far superior to a Streetlite. Plus the fact that Streetlites are possibly one of the ugliest monstrosities to ever appear on the road. Personal tastes I suppose
Personal taste? No, your policy is simple. Dart, Cadet, Pulsar, E200, E400, Streetlite, Volvo B10, Volvo B9 Gemini, Citaro..... If it's blue, it's rubbish.
That's just being ridiculous. I've never said B10s, E400s etc are rubbish. Some of arrivas Darts WE'RE rubbish as we're some particularly bad cadets and commanders. I've said Cannocks B9 deckers break down a lot cos they do. Doesnt mean they're a bad bus, more like a garage with a breakdown record like Cannock can't maintain them properly. Didn't seem to break down half as much at Tamworth when they were on a more arduous route!
Quote from: andy41 on September 15, 2015, 09:55:48 AM
Personal taste? No, your policy is simple. Dart, Cadet, Pulsar, E200, E400, Streetlite, Volvo B10, Volvo B9 Gemini, Citaro..... If it's blue, it's rubbish.
So true there Andy, no pleasing some.
New Single Decker (Sapphire 110 branded) bus
Just seen in Birmingham on the way out to go to Tamworth
Quote from: OH25 on September 17, 2015, 11:50:57 AM
New Single Decker (Sapphire 110 branded) bus
Just seen in Birmingham on the way out to go to Tamworth
So they have finally removed the 1/2/2A vinyls then. I'm sure it was reported one of the Streetlites was running on the 110 with the 1/2/A branding still applied?
Quote from: Nathan on September 17, 2015, 11:55:52 AM
So they have finally removed the 1/2/2A vinyls then. I'm sure it was reported one of the Streetlites was running on the 110 with the 1/2/A branding still applied?
The Streetline I saw and reported here on Monday (unfortunately I did not see the fleet number) did have 1/2/A branding.
Both Tamworth Streetlites now have 110 branding.
Why they on the 110 now plus what on the 1 2/a
Quote from: Jack6101 on September 17, 2015, 10:25:45 PM
Why they on the 110 now plus what on the 1 2/a
Streetlites are on the 1/2 etc.
3301/3302 transferred as the frequency of the 110 increased.
Quote from: Tony on September 13, 2015, 08:01:04 PM
Yes NX would use an E200 if it needed a Platinum Single deck route, You don't moan about them on the 54 / 154. No Olympians has the three speed Voith the Metrobus had
I must disagree - the 3 speed Voith was fitted to many Olympians, for NBC and PTEs.
I'm curious about the Streetlites at Tamworth. Which decision was made first? Decrease the 1/2 and have surplus buses; or increase the 110 and find buses from somewhere?
Saw a Streetlite at Basset Pole yesterday, looked very smart.
Increasing the frequency is all well and good...But sorting the reliability would have been a better place to start...
I used to use the 110 fairly frequently when the B9's were first introduced and yes, it had it's off days but generally it ran fairly well, but I've used it few times recently and the punctuality has been shocking!
Quote from: Squirrel on September 23, 2015, 04:08:31 PM
Increasing the frequency is all well and good...But sorting the reliability would have been a better place to start...
I used to use the 110 fairly frequently when the B9's were first introduced and yes, it had it's off days but generally it ran fairly well, but I've used it few times recently and the punctuality has been shocking!
To be fair that has been solely down to the chaos on the Expressway. It's all open again now and you will notice a vast improvement pretty quickly. Anything that touches Aston or the Expressway has been crippled for months.
I rode on the 110 from Birmingham to Erdington and back this lunchtime. Both buses were single decks and both were on time.
The first was a Citaro (I didn't keep the fleet number in my head - 3006?). I missed the good leg room on Sapphires, but as with all Citaros it gave a relaxing ride as we travelled along the Aston Expressway.
The return trip was on Streetlite 3301. This was quite good - no squeals or rattles, and no signs of straining at around 50 mph on the Aston Expressway. The bus was smart outside and in, and contained 110 route maps on the inside coving panels. Overall, not quite up there with the Enviro 400s, but not bad at all.
I've travelled on Sapphire Enviro 400s on the 110 quite a few times. They seem to have more 'go' than NXWM 49xx Enviros. Any idea why, anyone?
Quote from: Justin Tyme on September 25, 2015, 10:35:32 PM
I've travelled on Sapphire Enviro 400s on the 110 quite a few times. They seem to have more 'go' than NXWM 49xx Enviros. Any idea why, anyone?
Probably down to the way the engine mapping/ECU has been set up.
Quote from: AV4248 on September 25, 2015, 10:45:18 PM
Probably down to the way the engine mapping/ECU has been set up.
Our Sutton Enviro400s are set up to change gear at 1500rpm, way too low and it is hard to get the power sometimes to accelerate. It's quite funny to watch the 110s out accelerate us in places
I saw a Sapphire Branded Streetlite working on the 9 yesterday morning, it hasn't taken long before being used off route.
3301 and 3019 were both on 110 today
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on October 03, 2015, 05:50:37 PM
3301 and 3019 were both on 110 today
3301 would be on the 110 as it is branded for it. Still not uncommon to get a Citaro on there either
4716 here for MOT prep.
Unusually these days, 4200 is on the Tamworth route 2 today.
Quote from: derningtona on October 14, 2015, 04:42:15 PM
Unusually these days, 4200 is on the Tamworth route 2 today.
It's been on there every day since at least last Friday.
I hope not!!
Too good for Cannock!!
Yeah but anything is too good for cannock garage lol
Quote from: windy miller on May 03, 2012, 03:29:01 AM
If I catch a 110 bus in birmingham and ask for a fare to Tamworth Rail station do I pay for the outward journey to Victoria road (terminus) and then pay an additional fare to the rail station?
I think you the best bet would be to ask for a Day ticket which allows you to travel to Tamworth (any part of Tamworth), I think it's called a Midlands Daysaver so that means you can travel anywhere in the Midlands and out towards Tamworth. I think it should allow you to travel to the Rail Station in Tamworth.
Quote from: KarlX96 on November 01, 2015, 06:00:49 PM
I think you the best bet would be to ask for a Day ticket which allows you to travel to Tamworth (any part of Tamworth), I think it's called a Midlands Daysaver so that means you can travel anywhere in the Midlands and out towards Tamworth. I think it should allow you to travel to the Rail Station in Tamworth.
The 110 doesn't serve Victoria Road - terminates at Corporation Street. Not that far a walk from Corporation Street to the railway station, probably quicker than waiting for another bus to go 1 stop down Albert Road.
Just realised that the above reply was related to a post from 3 years ago....
Arriva wright streetlight FJ64EVC on rt110 just left erdington 12:07 for Birmingham
Quote from: BN on October 10, 2015, 11:08:16 AM
4716 here for MOT prep.
Now transferred to The Shires.
whats gone to the shires?
cheers for that, shame there leaving if rather the DLAs went
Wright streetlight FJ64EVB (3301) on rt110 just left Birmingham 17:30 both branded how many have transferred from Cannock to tamworth ive seen FJ64EVC (3302)
Quote from: Wright liberator on November 14, 2015, 05:32:03 PM
Wright streetlight FJ64EVB (3301) on rt110 just left Birmingham 17:30 both branded how many have transferred from Cannock to tamworth ive seen FJ64EVC (3302)
They have been there since the end of August. They transferred when changes were made to the 1/2 at CK.
E400 on JL1 this morning
Saw 3501 running dead past Moor Street Queensway earlier. Was this about to do or had just finished the 116 or 110? Or was it on JL1 since that's due to move around the time I saw it?
Quote from: Nxwm on December 04, 2015, 10:35:25 PM
whats this JL1 then?
John Lewis works service to Redditch
3505 now branded 'Kingsbury Flyer' for the 115/116
Just had a depot tour around Tamworth and I got to say, what an impressive service! One thing that was mentioned to me was that Arriva are planning to launch a new route called the X65 to run between Lichfield and Tamworth using branded Citaro's. Looks like the Xpre55 will have some competition!
Quote from: Michael Bevan on December 23, 2015, 12:26:55 PM
Just had a depot tour around Tamworth and I got to say, what an impressive service! One thing that was mentioned to me was that Arriva are planning to launch a new route called the X65 to run between Lichfield and Tamworth using branded Citaro's. Looks like the Xpre55 will have some competition!
All it is is the X60 renumbered on that section and split off from the Cannock bit
Quote from: Michael Bevan on December 23, 2015, 12:26:55 PM
Just had a depot tour around Tamworth and I got to say, what an impressive service! One thing that was mentioned to me was that Arriva are planning to launch a new route called the X65 to run between Lichfield and Tamworth using branded Citaro's. Looks like the Xpre55 will have some competition!
The Xpres55 has always had competition on this route since they introduced the route. Arriva just keep changing the number which IMHO does not show Arriva in a good light.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on December 23, 2015, 12:26:55 PM
Just had a depot tour around Tamworth and I got to say, what an impressive service! One thing that was mentioned to me was that Arriva are planning to launch a new route called the X65 to run between Lichfield and Tamworth using branded Citaro's. Looks like the Xpre55 will have some competition!
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I wondered who that was walking around with the manager!
Quote from: 2200 Bus on December 23, 2015, 07:23:51 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on December 23, 2015, 12:26:55 PM
Just had a depot tour around Tamworth and I got to say, what an impressive service! One thing that was mentioned to me was that Arriva are planning to launch a new route called the X65 to run between Lichfield and Tamworth using branded Citaro's. Looks like the Xpre55 will have some competition!
I wondered who that was walking around with the manager!
Was you working there then?
Quote from: Tony on December 23, 2015, 12:32:17 PM
All it is is the X60 renumbered on that section and split off from the Cannock bit
And was called the X65 previously also. I work in Lichfield sometimes and whenever I've seen the X55 it always has more passengers on board than the competing arriva route
Quote from: Bob on December 23, 2015, 08:59:59 PM
And was called the X65 previously also. I work in Lichfield sometimes and whenever I've seen the X55 it always has more passengers on board than the competing arriva route
The same at the Tamworth end, my only gripe with Arriva is that since the x55 came aboard they decided to re-run the 3 down the Lichfield Road, which is how it used to be many moons ago with the 1 and 3 doing the Coton Green, Leyfields circular.
Quote from: John on December 08, 2015, 01:32:04 PM
3505 now branded 'Kingsbury Flyer' for the 115/116
3506 now also branded
Is the 765 axed from February?
Yes Bob Feb 5th rumour from vosa bus website
Bob the 765 hasn't existed since last year. Do you mean the 785/786?
Well it says 765 between tamworth and lichfield on the latest vosa n & p....must be an error on their part
This relates to service 65 which is transferring to Hinckley
3003, 3004 now back home where they belong.
Quote from: BN on January 04, 2016, 07:30:08 PM
3003, 3004 now back home where they belong.
Good to see the Midlands fleet becoming more standardised with types at particular garages.
Quote from: DiamondDart on January 04, 2016, 07:47:01 PM
Good to see the Midlands fleet becoming more standardised with types at particular garages.
I wonder whose been doing that?
Is 3501 3502 3503 leaving Tamworth next month
Quote from: Tosher on January 04, 2016, 10:48:30 PM
Yes the MIRA branded Scania single decks will move to Hinckley on the weekend of the 6th February.
3003 and 3004 have moved in from Cannock due to the increase of PVR by two due to the X65 relaunch today. Their move was in no way motivated directly by standardising vehicle types, not at first at any rate, initially it was going to be two other types!
3000 is now branded for the X65, 3001 will be done tomorrow afternoon in the depot. These and 3002 have wifi fitted and enabled and 3505 and 3506 will also receive wifi in the coming weeks (currently fitted but not enabled, look for the aerials on them above the cab).
Tosher
what was it going to be instead of the mercy out of interest?
Quote from: Tosher on January 04, 2016, 10:48:30 PM
Yes the MIRA branded Scania single decks will move to Hinckley on the weekend of the 6th February.
3003 and 3004 have moved in from Cannock due to the increase of PVR by two due to the X65 relaunch today. Their move was in no way motivated directly by standardising vehicle types, not at first at any rate, initially it was going to be two other types!
3000 is now branded for the X65, 3001 will be done tomorrow afternoon in the depot. These and 3002 have wifi fitted and enabled and 3505 and 3506 will also receive wifi in the coming weeks (currently fitted but not enabled, look for the aerials on them above the cab).
Tosher
@BN someone knows your job better than you!
The 65 as it is now (formerly 765 and 776 before that) was a big earner for the depot, a shortfall which won't be filled by the X65. Is Tamworth getting any other work to replace it?
Have to say the situation they have ended up in by having a 65 and an X65 which are completely unrelated and run in completely different directions is pretty ridiculous and completely unnecessary in an operation of this size.
Fairly typical Arriva unfortunately.
Quote from: Tosher on January 05, 2016, 11:51:03 AM
The Nuneaton-Tamworth corridor is not a big earner, though different operators define this in very different ways and lets remember that it is therefore slightly subjective.
There was extensive dialogue about the numbering of the X65 Tamworth to Lichfield section - in the event it was decided to use this so as to resurrect a corridor/number that might be familiar following its withdrawal, having used that number, in relatively recent history.
With respect, I wasn't asking. It was a significant percentage of the depot income particularly on concessionary claims and student traffic compared to a low PVR and overheads.
The dialogue on the renumbering appears to have resulted in the silliest possible conclusion I would suggest.
Quote from: Tony on January 05, 2016, 08:16:28 AM
@BN someone knows your job better than you!
Thats made me smile, of course it was standardisation. What other vehicles would have transferred in! No competition it was always going to be the 2 Mercs for the +2 pvr increase.
Quote from: Tosher on January 05, 2016, 08:47:04 PM
@andy41
Do you have access to the live figures?
Well if you do, I would suggest you probably shouldn't be on here discussing them....
Quote from: Tosher on January 05, 2016, 08:47:04 PM
@andy41
Do you have access to the live figures?
I didn't say I had access to the live figures, but I have knowledge of the historic ones.
A lot of your posts recently are from the perspective of somebody 'in the know' so I will ask you your own question? And if indeed you do, I would suggest you are taking considerable risks by imparting such information on here.
If you aren't, then your views are no more credible than anybody else's
Quote from: andy41 on January 06, 2016, 11:33:37 AM
I didn't say I had access to the live figures, but I have knowledge of the historic ones.
A lot of your posts recently are from the perspective of somebody 'in the know' so I will ask you your own question? And if indeed you do, I would suggest you are taking considerable risks by imparting such information on here.
If you aren't, then your views are no more credible than anybody else's
I agree Andy. Sadly the Arriva management graduate program leaves a lot to be desired...
Quote from: Tosher on January 06, 2016, 10:50:51 PM
I wouldn't of said this was a forum about figures other than fleet numbers, in reality!
The Arriva graduate programme??
@Tony, please note that this is a forum about nothing other than fleet numbers, and that none of its more established contributors have any knowledge whatsoever of the bus industry or have ever worked there. The bus industry only started about 3 weeks ago apparently...
Quote from: andy41 on January 07, 2016, 10:53:52 AM
@Tony, please note that this is a forum about nothing other than fleet numbers, and that none of its more established contributors have any knowledge whatsoever of the bus industry or have ever worked there. The bus industry only started about 3 weeks ago apparently...
Additionally there's people in the know within the industry who hide behind aliases rather than showing their true identity.....
Very true
@Winston. I hide behind nothing neither does
@Simon Dunn .
In my opinion if you have to hide behind an alias then you must have something to hide or z hidden agenda.
@BN I wouldn't get into an argument with
@Tony as to who knows your job better I'll back tony every day of the year & at least he is open about who he is
Quote from: Steveminor on January 08, 2016, 06:24:49 AM
@BN I wouldn't get into an argument with @Tony as to who knows your job better I'll back tony every day of the year & at least he is open about who he is
Steve, what argument? I'm in no arguement with Tony. Also you know i work for Arriva, what else do i need to tell you please?
Question guys.
Tamworth daysaver. How far along the 116 is it valid?
Quote from: Kevin on January 08, 2016, 07:18:12 PM
Question guys.
Tamworth daysaver. How far along the 116 is it valid?
Baggeridge Brickworks, just past Dosthill.
Quote from: andy41 on January 05, 2016, 12:00:55 PM
With respect, I wasn't asking. It was a significant percentage of the depot income particularly on concessionary claims and student traffic compared to a low PVR and overheads.
The dialogue on the renumbering appears to have resulted in the silliest possible conclusion I would suggest.
The Tamworth - Nuneaton revenue has declined for a number of reasons Andy over the last few years. Namely..
1) Improved London Midland rail service (hourly frequency and approx 20 min journey time)
2) Increased presence from Stagecoach between Atherstone and Tamworth
3) Additional journey time incurred from serving MIRA
I'm told there are a number of issues at Tamworth depot since Arriva put a YTS in charge back in October
Quote from: legohead on January 09, 2016, 05:55:54 PM
The Tamworth - Nuneaton revenue has declined for a number of reasons Andy over the last few years. Namely..
1) Improved London Midland rail service (hourly frequency and approx 20 min journey time)
2) Increased presence from Stagecoach between Atherstone and Tamworth
3) Additional journey time incurred from serving MIRA
I'm told there are a number of issues at Tamworth depot since Arriva put a YTS in charge back in October
I don't think MIRA has added extra time to the route, as the distance is pretty much the same as going through Hartshill. I suspect the extra time they put in is due to the route going through Holly Lane and St George's in Atherstone. It probably was too tight in the first place as it always used to run late.
The Stagecoach service between Atherstone and Tamworth seems very lightly used as it runs on an infrequent basis at odd hours to suit the shift times at Birch Coppice, or as a tender through the villages that used to be on the 777. I doubt this has had much of an impact on the 776 / 765 / 65.
The improved train service has probably had a bigger impact, and taking the route out of Baddesley will have caused a drop in revenue. At one time there were four operators fighting for Baddesley (Arriva, A-Line, Elkin and Invincible) and now it only gets a tendered service.
I thought the manager at Tamworth had come from Telford?
4203 seen heading towards Tamworth today
Quote from: LG on January 25, 2016, 07:58:38 PM
4203 seen heading towards Tamworth today
On loan here for a few days.
Only 1 of the 3 buses on the 65 today was the MIRA branded OmniLinks. 3504 and 3507 were the other two, along with branded 3502
Does anyone know if 4200 is leaving tamworth with the 4 deckers from Cannock
Quote from: LG on February 05, 2016, 10:16:51 PM
Does anyone know if 4200 is leaving tamworth with the 4 deckers from Cannock
Yes it is
Quote from: 646 on February 05, 2016, 10:30:47 PM
Yes it is
Quote from: SG on January 27, 2016, 06:01:52 PM
4201-4 are going to Wigston aswell as 4200 from Tamworth to replace the remaining Lowlanders
3507 gone on loan to Hinckley as 3503 having work done at Tamworth Depot
Anyone know why 4200 was heading towards twlford?
Quote from: LG on February 19, 2016, 04:56:50 PM
Anyone know why 4200 was heading towards twlford?
Temporary transfer.
Tamworth now has 2711 temporarily, presumably until 3552 moves from Derby.
Saw a hinckleybus omnilink in the Tamworth Garage, didnt quite get the number.
Quote from: Dutsey on February 23, 2016, 03:28:06 PM
Saw a hinckleybus omnilink in the Tamworth Garage, didnt quite get the number.
It was 3503....it's been swapped back for 3507.
2711 has left the fleet which was never used, 4200 should be back tomorrow.
Quote from: SG on February 26, 2016, 08:06:42 PM
2711 has left the fleet which was never used, 4200 should be back tomorrow.
And without further ado, 4200 back on the 110 this evening
Is OmniCity 3552 still due to replace 4200?
Of note is that most of the Sapphire vehicles at Tamworth have had there light clusters changed to silver, this makes them look much better, especially the Streetlites, as can be seen in John's photo below
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/24986287874/
Quote from: John on March 15, 2016, 09:51:02 PM
Is OmniCity 3552 still due to replace 4200?
Not now.
3508 has gone for repaint
3508 will look nice with a new paint job
How come the 115 and 116 go through Fazeley now? Is this to compete with Central Buses 16?
Quote from: Dutsey on March 24, 2016, 09:36:06 AM
How come the 115 and 116 go through Fazeley now? Is this to compete with Central Buses 16?
I suspect so. As Arriva want to run Central Buses out of Tamworth. This is why there has been changes on the 115/116 and why the X65 was brought back.
How is the 16 doing? It always seems busy when I see it and I believe the X55 is holding up pretty good.
Quote from: Dutsey on March 24, 2016, 02:37:05 PM
How is the 16 doing? It always seems busy when I see it and I believe the X55 is holding up pretty good.
Never been on the 16 so I wouldn't know. But the Xpre55 is doing fantastic! Even though Arriva have made a few attempts to get it, the customers still stick with Central Buses!
I noticed YX64 VMG (4412) Sapphire bus running on the 3A to Coton Green this morning. Very bizarre shame I never had my camera lol
Quote from: Dutsey on April 22, 2016, 09:24:15 AM
I noticed YX64 VMG (4412) Sapphire bus running on the 3A to Coton Green this morning. Very bizarre shame I never had my camera lol
Kept on locals because ADL had some warranty work to carry out.
4200 on 110 today. Seen at 14:10 in City
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on May 28, 2016, 04:11:39 PM
4200 on 110 today. Seen at 14:10 in City
Was on yesterday, as with at least one Merc
Quote from: Kevin on May 29, 2016, 01:00:34 PM
Was on yesterday, as with at least one Merc
I thought the whole point of the streetshites going was to almost fully eliminate the chance of there being 1 or more non-sapphire buses on it.
Quote from: Dom on May 29, 2016, 09:46:55 PM
I thought the whole point of the streetshites going was to almost fully eliminate the chance of there being 1 or more non-sapphire buses on it.
Cannock should send some more. ..good riddance the Volvos are loads better on the 1 and 2 😂😂
Quote from: Dom on May 29, 2016, 09:46:55 PM
I thought the whole point of the streetshites going was to almost fully eliminate the chance of there being 1 or more non-sapphire buses on it.
They were brought in for a PVR increase and to cover for the peak time journeys. There were 2 E400s off on Saturday.
4200 on 110 again today. Seen at 13:20 towards City at Sutton
PD0000478/16 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Tamworth, Victoria Road and Birmingham, Upper Bull Street given service number 110 effective from 24-Jul-2016. To amend Timetable.
I am making a trip to Tamworth tomorrow, has anyone got any routes that are good to have a ride on?
Quote from: Dom on June 02, 2016, 05:07:49 PM
I am making a trip to Tamworth tomorrow, has anyone got any routes that are good to have a ride on?
786 is good fun.
Which route can I find Mercs?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 19, 2016, 10:23:34 AM
Which route can I find Mercs?
Most town routes except the 2 for some reason. Also the X65
Quote from: Kevin on June 19, 2016, 11:30:08 AM
Most town routes except the 2 for some reason. Also the X65
Thanks, any personal favourite routes in Tamworth/ litchfield area? Scenic or fast?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 19, 2016, 01:13:57 PM
Thanks, any personal favourite routes in Tamworth/ litchfield area? Scenic or fast?
X65 gets a bit of a move on.
You might also be lucky and see what I've seen, which is an X65-branded Citaro switch with the Scania behind at Lichfield Bus Station and take up a 786. This may have been scheduled or a swap. It happened around 1630/1700 weekday.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 19, 2016, 01:13:57 PM
Thanks, any personal favourite routes in Tamworth/ litchfield area? Scenic or fast?
Tamworth town routes are a bit boring, but they're Mercs so worth it in my book :-D
X65 though, definitely
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 19, 2016, 10:23:34 AM
Which route can I find Mercs?
sometimes on 110 to brum in place of the deckers or street lites
Thankyou
@Kevin @Solo1 @646 x65 seems a definite.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 19, 2016, 03:22:38 PM
Thankyou @Kevin @Solo1 @646 x65 seems a definite.
It doesn't seem it. It has two branded ones. Then you have the 2, 3, 3A, 4, 5, 7, 8 and 9 in Tamworth.
4200 is now sporting an England flag wrap for the World Cup
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13501571_725166974282146_8256957480946671934_n.jpg?oh=b5647e9662094a66d0a79bdca66b720b&oe=57E5A4FF
Quote from: John on June 20, 2016, 07:07:16 PM
4200 is now sporting an England flag wrap for the World Cup
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13501571_725166974282146_8256957480946671934_n.jpg?oh=b5647e9662094a66d0a79bdca66b720b&oe=57E5A4FF
I'm told by management that 4200 will spend the day on the 110 today in its new livery.
Quote from: Tosher on June 21, 2016, 04:50:13 AM
I'm told by management that 4200 will spend the day on the 110 today in its new livery.
For anyone wanting to find 4200. I've had it confirmed by the General Manager it is on the 110. It's arrival time's into Birmingham Corporation Street are as follows: 9:06, 11:37, 14:07, 16:39, 19:13.
One of the StreetLites has just entered City, de-branded from the 110 above the windows
Quote from: John on June 25, 2016, 02:47:00 PM
One of the StreetLites has just entered City, de-branded from the 110 above the windows
It would appear 3301 and 3302 have been de branded, a driver tells me they are going and they are having sapphire citaro instead??
Quote from: LG on June 28, 2016, 08:31:14 PM
It would appear 3301 and 3302 have been de branded, a driver tells me they are going and they are having sapphire citaro instead??
If this is the case I would guess 3912/3913 being the Citaros coming the other way from Luton which would need to be renumbered.
Quote from: tphi12000 on June 28, 2016, 10:52:22 PM
If this is the case I would guess 3912/3913 being the Citaros coming the other way from Luton which would need to be renumbered.
These would be the two that are on the 321 route aren't they?
Well I see Arriva were quick to remove "Come On England!" off 4200 after they were knocked out of the Euro's! Still has the St. George's flag livery though.
Quote from: tphi12000 on June 28, 2016, 10:52:22 PM
If this is the case I would guess 3912/3913 being the Citaros coming the other way from Luton which would need to be renumbered.
There 3 Sapphire Citrao's branded for the 321 in fact but I presume only 2 are coming? The Sapphire are as follows 3911, 3912 and 3913 all of them were fully reseated and refurbished in late 2014. Here are some pictures of 3911 after HD Trim had finished they did a brilliant job by the looks of things. :D
Exterior https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BytiuetIAAA-0j5?format=jpg&name=large (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BytiuetIAAA-0j5?format=jpg&name=large)
Interior https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BytiuU8IEAEEtdr?format=jpg&name=large (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BytiuU8IEAEEtdr?format=jpg&name=large)
All the pictures are from HD Trim Ltd Twitter page.
Quote from: Reece on June 29, 2016, 11:40:28 AM
There 3 Sapphire Citrao's branded for the 321 in fact but I presume only 2 are coming? The Sapphire are as follows 3911, 3912 and 3913 all of them were fully reseated and refurbished in late 2014. Here are some pictures of 3911 after HD Trim had finished they did a brilliant job by the looks of things. :D
Exterior https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BytiuetIAAA-0j5?format=jpg&name=large (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BytiuetIAAA-0j5?format=jpg&name=large)
Interior https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BytiuU8IEAEEtdr?format=jpg&name=large (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BytiuU8IEAEEtdr?format=jpg&name=large)
All the pictures are from HD Trim Ltd Twitter page.
the reason I suggested 3912/3913 is that these are allocated to Luton who also have the sapphire streetlite max's , 3911 being allocated to Watford (Southern Counties), but like I said only a guess.
Kingbury Flyer branded Scania 3506 is on the 785/6 today. Did the 11:40 departure from Lichfield
I've heard a rumour that Tamworth is loosing some mercs.
If true it will see 3007 upwards to 3018 go to high Wycombe.
Also if true they will be replaced by scanias from Derby.
Anyone heard anything about this?
Quote from: LG on July 08, 2016, 03:46:40 PM
I've heard a rumour that Tamworth is loosing some mercs.
If true it will see 3007 upwards to 3018 go to high Wycombe.
Also if true they will be replaced by scanias from Derby.
Anyone heard anything about this?
Well 3301/02 are supposed to be transferring to the Shires in return for two Sapphire Citaros I thought. Also what would Derby have if it is true? New buses or a sizeable PVR drop?
It is my understanding that only 3911 is coming up now which is due to arrive Monday afternoon and will be re numbered to 3022
Moves ahead.
The 3961 - 3972 batch of Shires B7RLE are going in to Derby to replace the 03/04/05/55 and some of the 58 Scanias.
These will go to Tamworth to oust some Citaros to Shires.
Other moves include 3705 to Shires and Solos into Telford to swap for Streetlites in Shires.
Quote from: 646 on July 08, 2016, 08:00:44 PM
Moves ahead.
The 3961 - 3972 batch of Shires B7RLE are going in to Derby to replace the 03/04/05/55 and some of the 58 Scanias.
These will go to Tamworth to oust some Citaros to Shires.
Other moves include 3705 to Shires and Solos into Telford to swap for Streetlites in Shires.
So all Arriva Midlands North depots are now getting downgrades?
Looks that way if they are sending buses from Tamworth and Telford now
So why buy new buses to 'upgrade' routes make great local fanfare with exhibitions etc then downgrade them? Amanda Milling is in the Chronicle this week having a tour of the depot to find out all the things arriva are doing locally to improve local bus services to make bus travel more attractive. I wonder if they said 'well you start off with some brand new buses branded up, then you downgrade the timetable and reduce the frequency, and get rid of two of said new buses, and for your prominent main circular you do buy same number of buses, then get rid of them and put any old shit on up to 15 years old, it makes travelling better and easier"
In Derbys case it's an upgrade though
I wonder if Cannock will see any more changes although to be fair they couldn't really downgrade it any more ? If they get rid of the Streetshites that would be a bonus
Quote from: Bob on July 08, 2016, 08:18:49 PM
In Derbys case it's an upgrade though
That's not a Midlands North depot though
It seems strange for the mercs to be moved from Tamworth when this remains a profitable depot, there must another reason for the fleet move
True Tony... Maybe my wish will come true and they'll do one from some areas ( namely Cannock ) & take their unreliable threadbare sheds with em!
Quote from: Bob on July 08, 2016, 08:31:43 PM
True Tony... Maybe my wish will come true and they'll do one from some areas ( namely Cannock ) & take their unreliable threadbare sheds with em!
And maybe you'll stop slagging Arriva off with your boring rants and uncensored swearing. If only.
Not everything's black and white, it will be nice to have some different vehicles closer to home.
Only someone like you could spin an absolute downgrading of a fleet into 'something nice'. .😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Maybe one day you'll have a clue what your on about lol
Quote from: Tony on July 08, 2016, 08:08:40 PM
So all Arriva Midlands North depots are now getting downgrades?
That doesn't bode well for AMN
Quote from: Bob on July 08, 2016, 08:20:45 PM
I wonder if Cannock will see any more changes although to be fair they couldn't really downgrade it any more ? If they get rid of the Streetshites that would be a bonus
They probably will get rid of the Streelites and send them to Shires like everything else. Then they will have got rid of all of Cannocks newer buses as well!!
It will be interesting to see some different fleet about in the north
Quote from: Bob on July 08, 2016, 08:59:30 PM
Only someone like you could spin an absolute downgrading of a fleet into 'something nice'. .😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Maybe one day you'll have a clue what your on about lol
Ever heard the saying one mans junk is another mans treasure! Seriously you sound like a child in a bloody school playground.
You got the junk part right
Quote from: Bob on July 08, 2016, 09:31:17 PM
You got the junk part right
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean everyone doesn't. Christ the world would be a boring place if that was the case.
Yea but to be fair no one with any sense could argue that buying new buses branded up then swiftly getting rid ( after a big promotion like in Cannock ) & replacing with tat and now downgrading other garages allocations is a sign of a business doing very well.....
A driver on the 110 confirmed to me today that a number of Citaros will be leaving and replaced by Scanias. I just hope that Tamworth will not become another old dumping ground.
Quote from: LG on July 08, 2016, 04:26:35 PM
It is my understanding that only 3911 is coming up now which is due to arrive Monday afternoon and will be re numbered to 3022
Anyone know if this happened today please ?
Quote from: Dutsey on July 09, 2016, 11:09:24 PM
A driver on the 110 confirmed to me today that a number of Citaros will be leaving and replaced by Scanias. I just hope that Tamworth will not become another old dumping ground.
Thought Cannock was the dumping ground?
It is lol
Quote from: Bob on July 08, 2016, 08:18:49 PM
In Derbys case it's an upgrade though
or not based on the first arrival there appears to be a typo 3861 -3872 are 05 and 07 plate Volvo's and are the ones coming not the 63 plate 3961-72...
Quote from: tphi12000 on July 12, 2016, 11:40:24 PM
or not based on the first arrival there appears to be a typo 3861 -3872 are 05 and 07 plate Volvo's and are the ones coming not the 63 plate 3961-72...
Where is there a typo?
Quote from: 646 on July 13, 2016, 01:33:36 PM
Where is there a typo?
maybe there isn't just that 'The 3961 - 3972 batch of Shires B7RLE are going in to Derby to replace the 03/04/05/55 and some of the 58 Scanias. ' (63 plate)
and first one to arrive was 3861 (05 plate )based on derby thread ?
Quote from: 646 on July 13, 2016, 01:33:36 PM
Where is there a typo?
Original message quotes the following moving 3961-3972, which looks as though it should have said 3861-3872. The 39** series (12/63 plate) B7RLE batch are numbered 3951-3966
Quote from: 646 on July 08, 2016, 08:00:44 PM
Moves ahead.
The 3961 - 3972 batch of Shires B7RLE are going in to Derby to replace the 03/04/05/55 and some of the 58 Scanias.
These will go to Tamworth to oust some Citaros to Shires.
Other moves include 3705 to Shires and Solos into Telford to swap for Streetlites in Shires.
Anyway, Back to topic 3022 Sapphire Citaro was on the 110 today
Quote from: RS on July 13, 2016, 06:24:24 PM
Anyway, Back to topic 3022 Sapphire Citaro was on the 110 today
How are the above comments "off topic"?
Correct, should've said 3861 - 3872!
Quote from: RS on July 13, 2016, 06:24:24 PM
3022 Sapphire Citaro was on the 110 today
With this one numbered 3022, does this mean that more Citaros might be transferred in to become 3020/3021?
Quote from: RS on July 13, 2016, 06:24:24 PM
Anyway, Back to topic 3022 Sapphire Citaro was on the 110 today
Have the Streetlites departed now this is in service....?
Quote from: Dutsey on July 09, 2016, 11:09:24 PM
A driver on the 110 confirmed to me today that a number of Citaros will be leaving and replaced by Scanias. I just hope that Tamworth will not become another old dumping ground.
Suddenly Tamworth becomes a less attractive place to go to
To be honest I am very surprised that a select number of the tamworth routes ie 2,3,3A are not operated by an optare solo or ADL enviro 200, not sure there is a need for Citaros.
Routes always seem lightly used.
Is 3022 out today?
They aren't having scanias now, 51 Plate DAFS and 02 Plate Solos.
From where? And Sb120?
What a crap downgrade lol
What will Derby lose then? If they're receiving a load of older volvos
3022 is out on 110 today
Departed 10:50 from Sutton to Birmingham
Quote from: MrB on July 21, 2016, 12:07:23 AM
They aren't having scanias now, 51 Plate DAFS and 02 Plate Solos.
And who fooled you with this information?
Have Tamworth been given Burtons Versas - I saw one today on the 3A around 5ish
I saw two in the garage as I walked past earlier today couldn't identify the numbers all I know is there 09 plates
Quote from: Dutsey on July 22, 2016, 09:50:43 PM
Have Tamworth been given Burtons Versas - I saw one today on the 3A around 5ish
Ex Thurmaston, 3 are here in total 2990-2.
Yeah, a few more on the road, dafs couldn't make it apparently.
I have heard that 3872 is at Derby ready to head to Tamworth
2992 was on the 116 earlier
Oh dear I bet that was not a good journey
2712, 3008 and 3010 have now left the fleet
Quote from: A R R I V A : S I on July 27, 2016, 08:00:36 PM
Have the 2 Streetlites FJ64 EVB / FJ64 EVC left the TH fleet as well yet does anyone know ? Thanks
3301 definitely now at Luton.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on July 27, 2016, 08:10:24 PM
3301 definitely now at Luton.
and 3302 was on the 110 yesterday.
I saw 3872 out today on the 3 Coton Green
3501-3503 will be rejoing Tamworth on September 19th as they got 65 route back from Hinckley
3022 on the 3 now saw it leaving Tamworth about ten minutes ago
Today Streetlite 3302 was on the 785! 3022 was actually on the 110 and 3872 was hissing away like mad on the 3A. By all accounts the intercooler has been like this for six years, according to a report from a Stevenage driver so it looks like the dumping has started!
A few notes from Monday (some have already been mentioned in this thread)
2990 - 3
2992 - 2
3022 - 110
3302 - 785
3508 - 4 (I gather some of these now appear on locals as at least 4 Citaros have now left)
3872 - 3A
I was looking for 3872 yesterday afternoon but didn't see it.
I've passed 3872 on the 8 this morning. All things being equal it will stay on the 8/9 through the day today.
Why? Why would they even do that?
Sapphire Alexander Dennis E40D 4411 is on town services 4 & 7 this afternoon! Sapphire Streetlite 3302 was on the town service 2 yesterday.
Quote from: derningtona on August 05, 2016, 01:57:02 PM
Sapphire Alexander Dennis E40D 4411 is on town services 4 & 7 this afternoon! Sapphire Streetlite 3302 was on the town service 2 yesterday.
I thought deckers couldn't get under the railway bridge.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on August 05, 2016, 08:23:50 PM
I thought deckers couldn't get under the railway bridge.
The railway bridge is on the 8 & 9.
I see the 116 is going not sure if that means they are keeping the 115
Quote from: monkeyjoe on August 08, 2016, 05:21:24 PM
I see the 116 is going not sure if that means they are keeping the 115
115 will still be operating, similar frequency as now.
Very good loadings on 110
I saw a volvo eclipse 7rle on the 4 today didn't catch fleet number. Is this a permanent transfer?
Quote from: Dutsey on August 13, 2016, 06:19:36 PM
I saw a volvo eclipse 7rle on the 4 today didn't catch fleet number. Is this a permanent transfer?
You sure? what makes you think it was a Volvo if you didn't see the fleetnumber
Quote from: Tony on August 13, 2016, 06:21:15 PM
You sure? what makes you think it was a Volvo if you didn't see the fleetnumber
Two B7RLEs have arrived here from the Shires...
3872
3868
And one I think on loan from Cannock which is 3907. I'm not sure if this is permanent.
Quote from: Tony on August 13, 2016, 06:21:15 PM
You sure? what makes you think it was a Volvo if you didn't see the fleetnumber
I noticed Volvo written underneath the window Tony ;D-
I thought Derby were getting the Volvos? ???
Quote from: Bob on August 14, 2016, 09:09:08 AM
I thought Derby were getting the Volvos? ???
Yes they are mate, but as its a 3 way swap with Derby Scania's it was quicker to do one for one swaps at Tamworth for the Citaros.
Ohhhh. Fair enough.
I came across this photo of 3008 - BJ12YPT operating a 34 in High Wycombe on Flickr early while I was updating my Arriva Max fleetlist. It looks like 3008 has had a MAX refurbishment and from what I can see in the picture it's also had a retrim to.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lewisbus/28865677142/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lewisbus/28865677142/)
Arriva London Wright Streetlite DF passing through Tamworth on the A5 about 6.45 this morning, I assume this stayed the night?
3608 and 3872 are defo both at TW, looking at them now in the Victoria St bus station.
I haven't seen 4200 around TW or on the 110 for a few days, is it still about?
Quote from: twb1979 on August 16, 2016, 05:29:57 PM
I haven't seen 4200 around TW or on the 110 for a few days, is it still about?
Was on there last tuesday
Quote from: twb1979 on August 16, 2016, 05:29:57 PM
I haven't seen 4200 around TW or on the 110 for a few days, is it still about?
110 quite a few times last week. Still sporting the England flag
Quote from: twb1979 on August 16, 2016, 05:29:57 PM
I haven't seen 4200 around TW or on the 110 for a few days, is it still about?
Been away at Hartshornes Volvo for a couple of days, came back today.
Another Volvo B7RLE noted today - 3861 (KE05 FMX) from High Wycombe on the 4 and 5A. 4200 was on the 3A.
Looks like the Arriva changes on the 8 and 9 hasn't gone down to to well
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/support-dont-stop-our-bus-removal-changes-to-8-and-9/signatures.html
Quote from: Dutsey on August 19, 2016, 11:46:47 AM
Looks like the Arriva changes on the 8 and 9 hasn't gone down to to well
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/support-dont-stop-our-bus-removal-changes-to-8-and-9/signatures.html
Do many Arriva changes do down well??
Seeing another opportunity for Central Buses here, lol
Quote from: Kevin on August 19, 2016, 01:33:20 PM
Seeing another opportunity for Central Buses here, lol
Arriva seem to be handing opportunities to other operators on a plate at present
Quote from: Kevin on August 19, 2016, 01:33:20 PM
Seeing another opportunity for Central Buses here, lol
I don't get why they're doing it either... Hacking back their own business and its tragic to watch. Things clearly bad at AMN at the moment
To think Tamworth was one of the "better" garages too.
Quote from: Bob on August 19, 2016, 06:21:24 PM
To think Tamworth was one of the "better" garages too.
Still is.
So why the downgrading of vehicles?
3302 is on the 110 today in the City Centre on Corporation Street at 15:30.
3022 was seen on the 5/5A this morning and this afternoon.
Hinckleybus 3503 was working the 785!
Quote from: derningtona on August 22, 2016, 06:55:48 PM
3022 was seen on the 5/5A this morning and this afternoon.
Hinckleybus 3503 was working the 785!
In which case, the other Sapphire Citaro is at Tamworth, as there was one parked up in the depot earlier, and i'd seen 3022 go past me towards Amington around a minute before
And in the meantime, 3004 on the 110, will be 20:15 departure ex city
3869 is another Volvo in service here noted on the 4 this morning
3870 (KE07 EWA) from High Wycombe noted on the 5 this afternoon
2990 2991 2992 left Tamworth 3501 3502 3503 3512 have rejoined
Fleet movements for P8 show 3861, 3862, 3868 and 3971 as having moved from High Wycombe to Tamworth. I can't find a 3971 in the Shires fleet list. Can anyone confirm that it is correct or should it be 3871.
Quote from: Grinder on September 05, 2016, 09:51:13 AM
Fleet movements for P8 show 3861, 3862, 3868 and 3971 as having moved from High Wycombe to Tamworth. I can't find a 3971 in the Shires fleet list. Can anyone confirm that it is correct or should it be 3871.
Yes, typo for 3871
I was under the impression that the streetlites were being moved on. Has this plan now changed?
I believe 3302 remains at Tamworth
B7RLE's here are 3861/2/8-72 so far, not sure how many more expected if any
3017 remains heres in service today on 4/5/7
Quote from: jc on September 07, 2016, 07:21:14 PM
I believe 3302 remains at Tamworth
B7RLE's here are 3861/2/8-72 so far, not sure how many more expected if any
3017 remains heres in service today on 4/5/7
There was a B7 attached to a tow truck on the left of the garage yesterday afternoon and another in the far right corner.
3502 on the 65 today still with Hinkleybus fleetnames and "On hire to Arriva Midlands North" notices - I though this had been discussed but cannot find it.
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Has the service always run to Ventura Park?
Quote from: mikestone on September 07, 2016, 09:02:35 PM
3502 on the 65 today still with Hinkleybus fleetnames and "On hire to Arriva Midlands North" notices - I though this had been discussed but cannot find it.
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Has the service always run to Ventura Park?
The 65 hasn't always gone to Ventura Park. Think it just caters for the withdrawal of the 6.
One of the MIRA Scanias was on the 8/9 yesterday.
I saw 2159 today taking a turn at Tamworth on the 2 route
Christ lucky them lol
I was in Swadlincote this afternoon and 3861 came out of a corner near CRS Trucks with a notice in the windscreen saying "DO NOT START"! I followed it and it turned at Overseal and went back. I presume It was on test.
Fleet Number 5998 appears to be working from Tamworth I saw today on the 765 route looks like it could be a demonstration bus, the driver says it will be regular on the 765 route
I saw FJO8LVL 4200 in town today does anyone know if this was a one of event? or will it be in town again this week ? many thanks
Quote from: horsencart on September 14, 2016, 08:30:09 PM
I saw FJO8LVL 4200 in town today does anyone know if this was a one of event? or will it be in town again this week ? many thanks
It is on the 110 most days so you should see it again this week
Quote from: LG on September 13, 2016, 06:25:41 PM
Fleet Number 5998 appears to be working from Tamworth I saw today on the 765 route looks like it could be a demonstration bus, the driver says it will be regular on the 765 route
5998? Can anyone shed some more light on what kind of bus this demonstrater might be?
5998 is a Mercedes Benz Sprinter City, reg BL16 GAO. It's in all over white and branded for Arriva and has 2 owner names & addresses on the nearside.
Quote from: JIM H on September 15, 2016, 08:00:09 PM
5998 is a Mercedes Benz Sprinter City, reg BL16 GAO. It's in all over white and branded for Arriva and has 2 owner names & addresses on the nearside.
Saw this in Lichfield this morning, what a joke allocated to a route that normally has full size singles, maybe shires has eyes on the Scania's too and we'll end up with a fleet of these.....
Quote from: tphi12000 on September 17, 2016, 04:03:00 PM
Saw this in Lichfield this morning, what a joke allocated to a route that normally has full size singles, maybe shires has eyes on the Scania's too and we'll end up with a fleet of these.....
If anyone has a photo would be appreciated
Quote from: tphi12000 on September 17, 2016, 04:03:00 PM
what a joke allocated to a route that normally has full size singles
In fairness though, how often does the route get full? The main reason for a full size bus is they haven't got any small singles at Tamworth.
What is happening at Tamworth at the moment? Is the Sapphire Merc still there as I have not seen it for weeks?
Streetlites are working the town routes , I have seen broken down volvo b7rle eclipses - surely this is not giving a good image of the bus services in Tamworth
It was still there a fortnight ago - it was on a local service and behind it was a non-platinum single decker on the 110.
Get rid of sapphire Streetlite
Replace with a sapphire Merc
Put Merc on local routes
#arrivalogic
Both streetlites 3301 and 3302 have left Tamworth a long time ago. 3022 the Mercedes citaro is still there in sapphire livery
Quote from: Dutsey on September 20, 2016, 11:08:00 AM
What is happening at Tamworth at the moment? Is the Sapphire Merc still there as I have not seen it for weeks?
Streetlites are working the town routes , I have seen broken down volvo b7rle eclipses - surely this is not giving a good image of the bus services in Tamworth
The sapphire merc is still there and has been noted in service recently. There has been no streetlites for many weeks now. Tamworth only had 2 and both have gone to Luton I believe
Quote from: LG on September 20, 2016, 08:35:56 PM
Both streetlites 3301 and 3302 have left Tamworth a long time ago. 3022 the Mercedes citaro is still there in sapphire livery
I thought only one Streetshite had left?
Saw a 51 plate dart coming out of Perrycrofts this morning... Older fleet is really going to increase patronage
2289/91 are temporary at Tamworth and I think 2159
Are they running Tamworth in line with Cannock and Wednesfield now? The fact that Cannock have lost all their mods almost would suggest that the 15 and the 19/20 are definitely going shortly
There going in October
Thought so hence the reduced need for MPD. Beats me as to why they've gone to Tamworth a previously excellent garage?
Quote from: Bob on September 21, 2016, 10:17:52 AM
Are they running Tamworth in line with Cannock and Wednesfield now? The fact that Cannock have lost all their mods almost would suggest that the 15 and the 19/20 are definitely going shortly
All,
They are purely put in place to help out while the High Wycombe B7's get a full refurb.
OK but what will Cannock need Mpds for after October then? Their busiest services lol?
Quote from: Busman Jamie on September 21, 2016, 09:43:16 AM
2289/91 are temporary at Tamworth and I think 2159
2159 has gone.
2289/2159 both desperately need scrapping. Both absolutely terrible
I thought 2159 was 1 of the better darts
Quote from: jc on September 17, 2016, 09:13:59 PM
In fairness though, how often does the route get full? The main reason for a full size bus is they haven't got any small singles at Tamworth.
That was ridiculously small , saw it this morning on the 765 down Lichfield Road. Surely Arriva won't be using for services unless they are revamping the routes to go down narrower roads.
Quote from: Busman Jamie on September 22, 2016, 10:06:43 AM
I thought 2159 was 1 of the better darts
Another absolute she'd. That's why it was barely used as anything other than the staff bus at Stafford. And that came from a driver
Noticed last week that 3022 now has an orange front LED display instead of its white one
1of the cannock streetlites also has orange led blind rather than its usual white blind
4200 is on the 3 today - back in normal blue livery.
3863, 3869 now in for refurbs.
A Omnilink is on the 110 today.
3863 freshly refurbed, should be back at Tamworth by the end of the week.
3866, 3867 now in for refurb.
Are they intended to stay
Quote from: Bob on October 18, 2016, 08:59:10 PM
Are they intended to stay
No, 2 are due for Cannock, after refurb.
I have heard that 2 solos will be going to Tamworth 2499 and 2500 from Milton keynes
DAF 2738 and Darts 2289/2291 in use at Tamworth today
The Solos at Tamworth are 2400 (YJ58 PKE) and 2499 (YJ58 PKD)
Does Tamworth still have the Optare Versas not seen them for a while?
The verses went ages ago they have 2 Solos now 2499 and 2500 which has been renumbered 2400 by the looks of it
Does anyone know if the rumour is true that the Yutong demo bus will be going to Tamworth??
3869 now back from the paintshop, replaced by 3868 and 3870.
3870 operated Stafford service 12 on Thursday
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/midlands/jobs/live-vacancies/bus-drivers---tamworth/
All ex High Wycombe B7's (3863, 3868-3872) have now been fully refurbed and now back into fleet.
2289, 2292 now withdrawn.
3004 running round with 'merry christmas' decorations as exterior branding
Quote from: BN on December 19, 2016, 05:59:54 PM
All ex High Wycombe B7's (3863, 3868-3872) have now been fully refurbed and now back into fleet.
2289, 2292 now withdrawn.
2289 leaves Tamworth tomorrow
One left Tamworth today on the back of a recovery truck
Long shot and a bit late to ask, but....
Anyone know if there's a Merc or even a sapphire one, on the 110 today, even times etc?
Quote from: Kevin on December 31, 2016, 02:05:52 PM
Long shot and a bit late to ask, but....
Anyone know if there's a Merc or even a sapphire one, on the 110 today, even times etc?
@Kevin 3022 is on the 110. Saw it about 12:50 (roughly) in Sutton going towards Tamworth.
Quote from: Nathan on December 31, 2016, 02:27:09 PM
@Kevin 3022 is on the 110. Saw it about 12:50 (roughly) in Sutton going towards Tamworth.
Legend, cheers
Will 3864 (currently in Luton) ever be coming to the Midlands?
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on December 31, 2016, 09:56:27 PM
Will 3864 (currently in Luton) ever be coming to the Midlands?
Tony's Period 9 amendments shows it as sold.
Quote from: derningtona on January 01, 2017, 11:37:26 AM
Tony's Period 9 amendments shows it as sold.
Was reported in service at Luton Wednesday 28th.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on January 01, 2017, 11:47:42 AM
Was reported in service at Luton Wednesday 28th.
3864 has been withdrawn since May 2015 and still is, parked at MK.
Quote from: BN on January 01, 2017, 12:03:55 PM
3864 has been withdrawn since May 2015 and still is, parked at MK.
I'm just quoting what I read but if that's the case then somebody needs to pop up Specsavers lol.
I see Arriva are going through their annual 'brand and promote' random route to no effect shortly before ignoring it again, this time the 9 Hockley to Town Centre, a route that interestingly they recently halved the frequency of!
The highly original branding of 'Hockley Hopper', cut and paste directly from the 80s deregulation handbook, has emblazoned a Citaro or two. Let's hope one never makes it into the 110 or it could end up with a few lost passengers boarding in Birmingham!
Appears to be in reaction to service registration from an independent op, hardly random, has there been any random ones?
65 - MIRA funding?
110 - Prestigious service?
X65 - Central Buses competition?
115/116 - Central Buses Competition?
Struggling to think here?
Quote from: jc on January 28, 2017, 09:01:59 PM
Appears to be in reaction to service registration from an independent op, hardly random, has there been any random ones?
65 - MIRA funding?
110 - Prestigious service?
X65 - Central Buses competition?
115/116 - Central Buses Competition?
Struggling to think here?
2613 when it had the overall ad/branding for the 6.
Again, hardly random, it advertised the Tamworth Hopper service, so people could get around between places within Tamworth... Ok it wasn't in completion with anything but hardly random
Quote from: jc on January 30, 2017, 04:12:33 PM
Again, hardly random, it advertised the Tamworth Hopper service, so people could get around between places within Tamworth... Ok it wasn't in completion with anything but hardly random
Indeed. The "Tamworth Explorer" was a venture in partnership with Tamworth Borough and Staffordshire County Councils.
Quote from: andy41 on January 27, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I see Arriva are going through their annual 'brand and promote' random route to no effect shortly before ignoring it again, this time the 9 Hockley to Town Centre, a route that interestingly they recently halved the frequency of!
The highly original branding of 'Hockley Hopper', cut and paste directly from the 80s deregulation handbook, has emblazoned a Citaro or two. Let's hope one never makes it into the 110 or it could end up with a few lost passengers boarding in Birmingham!
Presumably a result of "Invisible Heartlands Val's Classic Acorn's" competing service. Anybody seen a timetable for that yet?
http://www.mike-james.co.uk/
On the 13th February 3004-6 were in "Hockley Hopper" livery and 3003 was working alongside on the 8/9 still in standard fleet livery. 3000-1 are in X65 livery and 3002 (named for Beth Jones, former Tamworth manager who died last year) was the last Citaro left for the 4/5/7. People-Movers MAN/MCV Evolution AE09 DJO was on their new route 9A.
I would of thought so they normally fo on the Lichfield run
Quote from: S . V . B on March 03, 2017, 06:10:13 AM
Are the 2 optare solos
still at Tamworth ? +
is KE05 GOH still there
3863 (KE05 GOH) was on the 4/5/7 (worked alternately in that order) the other day
Patrick
Quote from: S . V . B on March 03, 2017, 06:10:13 AM
Are the 2 optare solos
still at Tamworth ? +
is KE05 GOH still there
This afternoon 2499 was on the 2, 2400 was on the 3 and Sapphire Citaro 3022 was on the 3A!
All the best.
Today, Sapphire Enviro 400 4411 was on the 5 to Amington but it returned "not in service" at 14.15 to the town centre, preceded by 3003 in service and still in plain fleet livery.
If they're as unreliable as the two ex Shires B7RLE at Cannock I hope not. And yes the volvo decker is still there it was on the 110 on Saturday
Wasn't KE07 temporary while the 2 05 plate was being refurbished
There were 3 07 plate ones on loan as Ck 05 ones were away
Why? What on earth would Cannock have that Tamworth being half decent would want lol?
Quote from: SI on March 09, 2017, 08:40:41 PM
Does anyone know the
amount of buses thats
allocated to Tamworth
depot please ? I would
say between 45 - 50 ?
According to the main site 39 plus 2 training buses
3003/3510/3512 are all on the 110 today
2746 is here on loan.
2746 is on the 3A today (3022 is on the 4/5/7 and 2400 is on the 3)
Patrick
I have been using the 110 for the past couple of days and was surprised how well used the service is especially between Birmingham and Sutton
2746 has left for Telford
Quote from: Dutsey on April 04, 2017, 03:32:17 PM
I have been using the 110 for the past couple of days and was surprised how well used the service is especially between Birmingham and Sutton
Even now with Platinum treatment there are people that let an NX bus go and wait for the 110
It's probably because it's a fairly long established competitor and people trust it more, like Diamond on the 16 in Hamstead
Quote from: Kevin on April 05, 2017, 07:50:01 AM
Even now with Platinum treatment there are people that let an NX bus go and wait for the 110
It's probably because it's a fairly long established competitor and people trust it more, like Diamond on the 16 in Hamstead
For the years that I drove the 110 I used to find that a lot of people used to prefer it to NX just so that they didn't have to travel with the Sutton Coldfield College rabble that take over the entire NX timetable for about 4 hours per day. Plus it was widely perceived that the 110 spent less time at stops loading and unloading and was therefore a little quicker. I was even once told by a passenger that she would get on it just to avoid the Aston Uni relief scenario which seems to occur on almost every inbound NX service I catch these days, no doubt it is just bad luck!
Volvo 3872 was on the 110 yesterday, in City around 5.20pm. Even followed me out on the Lichfield Road to beat the expressway traffic
3727-3731 and 3742-3743 Joining Tamworth
Have 3727-31 ever been repainted? One was looking absolutely terrible at Cannock before it left.
To be fair BOB they have been looked after in Oswestry and have been smartened up. They are infact leaving the depot in better condition in which they arrived, a real credit to the staff at Oswestry depot.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/42912682@N08/33677099982/in/photolist-rogsTZ-rowhTP-TiVWwS-FXPFcz-7vcmVZ-jFdpxe-jFd8vq-icGTAs-dBK3FV-e4Hwue-uL5gDY-uE3HEh-pGxpaE-9KbAw9-pGAAuQ-dNfXXu-brrKgG-bEmF8g-brrKdw-cJkwfu-atB1Nv-7gRE9V-duEmMN-cJkt1h-6VHnqp-e4Htdr-Jtj9D4-w8WqUq-Mfad9H-zyamZG-PAJfNX-v2ippQ-sa8JX4-r1QNo4-trtc4B-9uommu-bu9FGg-9uxuhB-PXYs7y-Rkmzxu-S38aQq-MLrU1K
Have they had an internal retrim? They needed it when at cannock the seats stank. In fairness they weren't very well looked after
No Same seats, they have however had replacement cushions where needed and are very acceptable buses to travel on.
As I said they leave the depot in better condition than when they arrived. 3728 and 3730 looked awful when they arrived at Oswestry and the depot staff asked for all 5 of them to be refurbished to MAX standard for route 70 but this was was rejected.
Its a shame they are now deemed worthy of refurbishment when its not really needed, but for another depot!!!
Are they expected to get a refurbished interior now then? Have to say it's a strange swap of vehicles!
Yes all 5 mk1 Pulsars and mk2's 3742/3 are being fully refurbished due to competition in Tamworth.
Staff at Oswestry have been told that the Scania's are "well worn" and we have been told that one of them is indeed still in the mk1 livery!!!
It really beggars belief that 2 years ago they were standardising the fleet now they are moving 5 potentially costly non standard motors into a rural depot that has never ran the type before!!!
Yep. Also if moving in buses that are largely older and pretty much inferior to the scanias is their answer to competition.....😂😂😂😂😂
Christ knows what they'd do if anyone took em on in Cannock! Well they could reduce frequencies like they did on the 70 in response to nxwms 154
Tamworth will be given some new links to Robert Peel Hospital & George Eliot from the 3rd of June.
http://news.warwickshire.gov.uk/blog/2017/04/18/bus-service-extension-will-give-much-needed-access-to-medical-facilities-and-new-developments-in-north-warwickshire/
Quote from: Adam 404 on April 18, 2017, 03:34:51 PM
Tamworth will be given some new links to Robert Peel Hospital & George Elliot from the 3rd of June.
http://news.warwickshire.gov.uk/blog/2017/04/18/bus-service-extension-will-give-much-needed-access-to-medical-facilities-and-new-developments-in-north-warwickshire/
That's George
Eliot @Adam 404
Hockley Hopper branded 3004 is on the 110. Just entering Birmingham now
3901 in service here.
3511 broken down in Lichfield bus station this evening, good luck to Oswestry it seems they will need it.
Quote from: andy41 on April 19, 2017, 10:20:25 PM
3901 in service here.
3511 broken down in Lichfield bus station this evening, good luck to Oswestry it seems they will need it.
What did you see it on?
Quote from: leepenfold30 on April 16, 2017, 01:46:55 PM
3727-3731 and 3742-3743 Joining Tamworth
I've been told the Omnilink's transferring out and the Pulsar's transferring in haven't been decided. So I don't know where you're getting your information from.
3901 currently on loan as 4409 is off the road due to accident damage
Quote from: Michael Bevan on April 20, 2017, 10:48:23 AM
I've been told the Omnilink's transferring out and the Pulsar's transferring in haven't been decided. So I don't know where you're getting your information from.
3510-12 are going on Sunday.
3728 is in for refurb
A thought.
Could Arriva Tamworth lose the TfWm Sunday contract for the 35 in Walsall eventually, due to the amount of dead mileage?
The Mon to Fri service is presumbly interworked with the Tamworth to Lichfield, but surprised the 77 wasnt kept, as Tamworth could have operated some 110e's between Tamworth & Sutton, changed to 77 then somehow interworked onto the 35!
3002 is on the first Tamworth operated 35 today. Left Walsall at 10:10 for Aldridge.
Also just seen X65 branded 3000 heading to Walsall not in service.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on April 23, 2017, 10:19:50 AM
3002 is on the first Tamworth operated 35 today. Left Walsall at 10:10 for Aldridge.
Also just seen X65 branded 3000 heading to Walsall not in service.
You off to Aston Manor? I'm on that Trent thing!
Nice to see Tamworth has made an effort with their first day on the 35.
Whether it will last, is another matter.
Quote from: Westy on April 23, 2017, 10:29:15 AM
You off to Aston Manor? I'm on that Trent thing!
Nice to see Tamworth has made an effort with their first day on the 35.
Whether it will last, is another matter.
Yep. I was sat at the back with
@Kevin and my mate in the Stobart jacket.
Both appeared to have at least three drivers on board.
2212 is on Tamworth 3 this afternoon and 2706 is on the 4/5/7
Cheers, Patrick
Hockley Hopper (8/9) branded 3004 is on the 110 today.
Another ex-Wednesfield bus - 2209 - was on the 4/5/7 this afternoon.
Is this just a temporary utter downgrade or permanent?
B7RLE 3870 on the 110 in City now
Quote from: Bob on April 26, 2017, 07:58:48 PM
Is this just a temporary utter downgrade or permanent?
I assume the MPDs are there as the Scanias have gone to Oswestry but the Pulsars are in for refurb before they arrive.
2209 was on the 4/5/7 again this morning, together with another - 2211.
Quote from: andyallen4014 on April 28, 2017, 08:22:26 AM
I assume the MPDs are there as the Scanias have gone to Oswestry but the Pulsars are in for refurb before they arrive.
I would have thought the Darts are for the 35. What is running on the 35?
The 765 seems to interwork with the 35 as 2273 was on the 15.05 from Tamworth but 2212 returned at 16.00 (timetable times - both about a quarter of an hour late, so it evidently isn't working well) today.
2703 was on the 3A and decker 4413 was on the 3!
Quote from: derningtona on April 28, 2017, 05:42:57 PM
The 765 seems to interwork with the 35 as 2273 was on the 15.05 from Tamworth but 2212 returned at 16.00 (timetable times - both about a quarter of an hour late, so it evidently isn't working well) today.
2703 was on the 3A and decker 4413 was on the 3!
3506 on 110
Quote from: John on April 28, 2017, 12:24:17 PM
I would have thought the Darts are for the 35. What is running on the 35?
I gather most of the 35's have been the SB120's
Hockley Hopper (8/9) branded 3005 is on the 35 today.
Surprised these Sunday 35's are running dead from Tamworth!
As I said before, if Tamworth had got the Sunday 77's as well, some 110e's could have run Tamworth to Sutton then swopped to 77 to work into Walsall then swop to 35.
I don't think Arriva will stay long term on Sunday 35's for that reason.
(So Councilor Worrall will have to find someone else to pay his money for the subsidy to instead! )
Quote from: Westy on April 30, 2017, 03:01:51 PM
Surprised these Sunday 35's are running dead from Tamworth!
As I said before, if Tamworth had got the Sunday 77's as well, some 110e's could have run Tamworth to Sutton then swopped to 77 to work into Walsall then swop to 35.
I don't think Arriva will stay long term on Sunday 35's for that reason.
(So Councilor Worrall will have to find someone else to pay his money for the subsidy to instead! )
What would be the point of the 110Es? The 110s carry fresh air between Tamworth an Sutton. It would just increase the running coasts of the 35 considerably
Surely Sunday service would of been better running from Cannock depot
Quote from: Ck on April 30, 2017, 06:24:00 PM
Surely Sunday service would of been better running from Cannock depot
Not really, that would be two lots of drivers to route learn on it instead of one and the mileage difference is negligible. It's probably costing them money to run wherever they put it.
Quote from: Westy on April 30, 2017, 03:01:51 PM
Surprised these Sunday 35's are running dead from Tamworth!
As I said before, if Tamworth had got the Sunday 77's as well, some 110e's could have run Tamworth to Sutton then swopped to 77 to work into Walsall then swop to 35.
I don't think Arriva will stay long term on Sunday 35's for that reason.
(So Councilor Worrall will have to find someone else to pay his money for the subsidy to instead! )
Are they not interworking with the 765 on a Sunday as that runs on Sunday? (Haven't looked at timetable to see if it would work.)
Quote from: Adam 404 on April 30, 2017, 08:06:59 PM
Are they not interworking with the 765 on a Sunday as that runs on Sunday? (Haven't looked at timetable to see if it would work.)
Theres no Sunday service on the 765.
Quote from: 2206 on April 30, 2017, 08:11:34 PM
Theres no Sunday service on the 765.
While on Traveline etc... 765 isn't shown to be running, the leaflet from Tamworth Library, dated 7th January 2017, says otherwise
Quote from: Adam 404 on April 30, 2017, 09:20:16 PM
While on Traveline etc... 765 isn't shown to be running, the leaflet from Tamworth Library, dated 7th January 2017, says otherwise
The Arriva website shows there being no sunday service on the 765 as well.
Quote from: 2206 on April 30, 2017, 09:23:36 PM
The Arriva website shows there being no sunday service on the 765 as well.
Has the timetable changed since January, I didn't think it had so clearly there is a mix up of some description.
Quote from: 2206 on March 02, 2017, 04:33:23 PM
PD0000478/442 Registered
ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD
Route: Tamworth, Corporation Street to Lichfield Bus Station
Service number: X65 (765)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 23 Apr 2017
I didn't think that they had cut the Sunday service. Kept that quiet! (Presuming that Traveline etc... is correct.) - unless my leaflet was wrong in January anyway...
Quote from: Adam 404 on April 30, 2017, 09:20:16 PM
While on Traveline etc... 765 isn't shown to be running, the leaflet from Tamworth Library, dated 7th January 2017, says otherwise
That leaflet went out of date last week.
Staffordshire County Council sent me this on 4th April:-
Bus Service Changes for the Tamworth area
From 22 April 2017
Service 9A (People Movers, Tamworth - Hockley) - Revised route and timetable.
Service 12 - New half hourly Monday to Saturday service between Tamworth and Amington, to be operated by People Movers.
From 23 April 2017
Services 765 / X65 (Arriva Midlands, Lichfield - Tamworth) - Revised timetable, Sunday journeys on 765 will be cancelled.
Revised timetables should be available on Traveline (0871 2002233 www.travelinemidlands.co.uk) two weeks before the amendment date or email publictransport@staffordshire.gov.uk for a paper copy of a timetable.
Tamworth to Walsall isn't exactly that far is it? And it just uses one bus on Sunday
Quote from: Kevin on May 01, 2017, 09:35:28 AM
Tamworth to Walsall isn't exactly that far is it? And it just uses one bus on Sunday
Took me 35 minutes to do Walsall to Drayton Manor on Saturday, probably 40 minutes to the Town Centre garage
Wonder how the driver relief works for 35 &77 run a car to.aldrige/walsalll or do the driver use 110 change at sutton
Quote from: Solo1 on May 01, 2017, 12:28:17 PM
Wonder how the driver relief works for 35 &77 run a car to.aldrige/walsalll or do the driver use 110 change at sutton
Arriva don't operate the 77 anymore
Forgot arriva wedsfield has shut
Quote from: Michael Bevan on April 30, 2017, 02:17:13 PM
Hockley Hopper (8/9) branded 3005 is on the 35 today.
Back on there again today.
Mira branded 3502 has not long left Birmingham on the 110
Quote from: John on May 09, 2017, 12:36:41 PM
Mira branded 3502 has not long left Birmingham on the 110
Also a non Sapphire Merc on there, 13:00 ish city centre
Branding seems to have gone to pot. Hockley Hopper branded 3004 was on the 4/5/7 on the 6th and similar 3006 is on the 4/5/7 today. I saw a normal livery bus on the 65 today. There is so much new competition around at present - 3B - 4 - 9A/C - 12 (competing with parts of 5 and 785/6) - that I think it is beyond a bit of branding to solve the problem! Route 4 seemed almost to have more buses than passengers when I watched it this morning.
"Hockley Hopper" branded Mercs 3004 and 3006 are both on the 4/5/7 today.
Mira branded 3501 on the 110 today
3728 and 3730 have arrived
Quote from: ntw456 on May 11, 2017, 06:04:06 PM
3728 and 3730 have arrived
Complete in the new light blue livery too
Quote from: John on May 12, 2017, 04:46:16 PM
Complete in the new light blue livery too
Can't wait to see pictures of them. I like the new livery.
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on May 12, 2017, 08:09:14 PM
Can't wait to see pictures of them. I like the new livery.
There's something I never thought I'd hear... :P
Quote from: DiamondDart on May 12, 2017, 08:20:31 PM
There's something I never thought I'd hear... :P
There will be a photo on the main site by 10pm
Quote from: Tony on May 12, 2017, 08:32:52 PM
There will be a photo on the main site by 10pm
Anyone else think it's a pretty horrible looking livery? They'd have been best adopting the Frequenta livery to reduce repaint costs, cream horn reduced to mostly vinyl and no yellow on the skirt:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/27204054@N07/27840557272/
Arriva are going to need to look especially smart in Tamworth given the competition going on
Doesn't look as bad as I expected tbh, just needs the ugly and old fashioned "no smoking" stickets removing.
Looks alright. Wonder why they left the handrails yellow sort of ruins it a bit
Quote from: Bob on May 12, 2017, 10:40:33 PM
Looks alright. Wonder why they left the handrails yellow sort of ruins it a bit
Issue will be how it wears, light colours, especially on the skirt will show any marks/dents extremely quickly.
Least they had a repaint, yano only ten years from new lol. I don't understand why if you're planning to upgrade your service in response to competition you'd replace 58 plate omnilink with knackered sounding pulsars that are older than what they're replacing though? Retrimmed or not
Found it :)
http://wmbusphotos.com/Arriva/3730.html
The 57 plates used to scream far louder than the 61/63 plates do they still? Could be a bit ear bashing and unpleasant on longer trips cos you couldn't hear yourself think
If anyone is looking for 3730 its on the 35 today
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1341907135845636&set=o.405425496185545&type=3&theater
Quote from: 2206 on May 16, 2017, 09:46:33 PM
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Not so I'm afraid. MRN ran the X80 from Tamworth to Walsall and Beechdale, and back twice a day via Drayton Manor, Falcon Lodge, Sutton and Kingstanding back in the 90s.
The article is funny, "walsall is the ideal place for shopping " . I think if you'd spent 90 minutes on a bus to get off at Walsall you'd be bitterly disappointed 😂😂😂😂
Did you 'nick' that photo from me
@Bob ?
Another new livery bus on the 4/5/7 today - 3731, following 3728.
Tatty Dart with missing paint on the 35 around 7am today in Walsall.
Thought they were using 'better' looking vehicles on that, as it was interworking with the 765?
Decker 4408 is on the town 4/5/7 this afternoon.
This won't be able to happen from 3 June as the new 4/5/8 interworking includes a low bridge!
On the 5th of June, route 4 frequency will be increased to every 10 minutes, so this will affect the 4/5/7 interworking as the 5 and 7 remain at every 12 minutes. At present there is a 4 or 5 minute layover in town but this doesn't work when you look at the new in and out times. It will be interesting to see how it does work. Route 4 will have 10 buses an hour (rather than the old 5) between the two operators! It was a strange choice for competition.
Quote from: derningtona on May 28, 2017, 10:43:36 AM
On the 5th of June, route 4 frequency will be increased to every 10 minutes, so this will affect the 4/5/7 interworking as the 5 and 7 remain at every 12 minutes. At present there is a 4 or 5 minute layover in town but this doesn't work when you look at the new in and out times. It will be interesting to see how it does work. Route 4 will have 10 buses an hour (rather than the old 5) between the two operators! It was a strange choice for competition.
The 4 is going to be run on its own and the 5/7/8 will be interworked
Quote from: ntw456 on May 28, 2017, 10:48:48 AM
The 4 is going to be run on its own and the 5/7/8 will be interworked
That works nicely - 4 minute layovers worked in numerical route order 5-7-8. I see that what was the 8/9 (which will all be full length trips numbered eight) will be reduced from every 10 minutes to every 12 minutes to make this work.
The 4 will need 3 buses with generous 8 minute layovers, the same as Central. The town stand will be rather congested!
The 65 will need an extra bus to cover the new extensions to hospitals at either end. I wonder if another will be specially painted.
Yet another new livery Pulsar seen on the 4/5/7 today - 3743.
I have just had a leaflet through the door advertising newly refurbished vehicles on the 3 and 3A.
Quote from: derningtona on May 31, 2017, 04:36:26 PM
Yet another new livery Pulsar seen on the 4/5/7 today - 3743.
I have just had a leaflet through the door advertising newly refurbished vehicles on the 3 and 3A.
What are these newly-refurbished vehicles?
The new livery pulsars
Newly refurbished 10 year old knackers that have replaced buses newer than them 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Quote from: Bob on May 31, 2017, 07:48:31 PM
Newly refurbished 10 year old knackers that have replaced buses newer than them 😂😂😂😂😂😂
3743 certainly looked a lot better than it sounded!!
Anyone know which extra bus will be going on 65 from Saturday along with 3501-3503
Quote from: leepenfold30 on June 01, 2017, 05:12:08 PM
Anyone know which extra bus will be going on 65 from Saturday along with 3501-3503
I don't think it will be anything special. 3505 is on today and I've seen other ordinary ones on the 65 lately.
By the way, Sapphire Citaro 3022 is on the 4/5/7 today (last day before the group changes to 5/7/8).
65 branded 3501 is on the 110 today.
Quote from: leepenfold30 on June 01, 2017, 05:12:08 PM
Anyone know which extra bus will be going on 65 from Saturday along with 3501-3503
At a guess it should be 3507 as that is our spare Mira bus currently 3502/3 are off the road
3727 & 3742 now here
Lowlander 4709 is at Tamworth
Quote from: leepenfold30 on June 01, 2017, 05:12:08 PM
Anyone know which extra bus will be going on 65 from Saturday along with 3501-3503
3500/2/3/7 were on the 65 this afternoon
Out of interest, 3501/5, 3728, 3871/2 and 3002-6 were on the 5/7/8 and 3730/1/43 were on the 4.
Dart 2168 is now at Tamworth (from Derby on the fleet changes). On the 35s today
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on May 31, 2017, 06:19:50 PM
What are these newly-refurbished vehicles?
So much for the refurbished vehicles on the Arriva home leaflet drop - today 2211 (withdrawn on the latest fleet changes) was on the 3 and 3502 (MIRA livery) was on the 3A!
The refurbished vehicles are certainly on the route 4 merry-go-round with 5 vehicles between the two operators for a 22 minute round trip.
3506 and 3507 were on the 65 this morning and new arrival 2168 was on the 2. 2212 was on the 765.
One of the 65 branded Scania OmniLinks was on the 35 yesterday - didnt catch the fleet number.
I drove through Shrewsbury this afternoon and passed 2209, which was at Tamworth not long ago.
Quote from: Dutsey on June 14, 2017, 11:10:06 AM
One of the 65 branded Scania OmniLinks was on the 35 yesterday - didnt catch the fleet number.
It was 3502
Quote from: ntw456 on June 14, 2017, 09:10:07 PM
It was 3502
So that's where it went! I saw it on the 3A in the morning and went to get a photograph in the afternoon. I waited for the route to go round twice and no 3A. Central were happily picking up all the passengers.
Today, new livery 3729 was on the 5/7/8 together with MIRA 3502, which continues its wanderings.
3006 rather spoilt the 4, as it is still in full "Hockley Hopper" routes 8 and 9 branding (3731/43 also on).
3005 was on the 65
There is currently an East Lancs Myllennium Lowlander at Tamworth Garage to allow some vehicles to go to MRC for refurbishment. It should be out in service later this week I'm told.
This will be common in the fleet before long as it appears Tamworth fleet is getting older.
Well since their competition are getting newer they have to get older just to balance out the universe or space & time will collapse
Just passed 65 branded 3503 at Gravelly Hill on a 110 to Tamworth. Looks like the blind isn't working on it though, as it has a piece of paper in the window with the number "110" on it...
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 21, 2017, 04:48:46 PM
Just passed 65 branded 3503 at Gravelly Hill on a 110 to Tamworth. Looks like the blind isn't working on it though, as it has a piece of paper in the window with the number "110" on it...
Anything seems to go in Tamworth now. 4408 was on the 3A yesterday.
It isn't good for the impression passengers get - 8 and 9 branding on the 4, 65 branding and no destination on the 110 - no bus on the 3a - "withdrawn" bus on the 3. What on earth is happening?
Tamworth is levelling out with Cannock lol?
VDL 3731 is on the 110
Passed Cannock loan 3911 out in the country on the 785 this afternoon.
2746 is also here,
Upping the quality no end then....
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 19, 2017, 01:43:45 PM
There is currently an East Lancs Myllennium Lowlander at Tamworth Garage to allow some vehicles to go to MRC for refurbishment. It should be out in service later this week I'm told.
4709 is on the 2 today. It was really working hard on a hill start in Perrycrofts Crescent!
For anyone interested, the 5/7/8 this morning was worked by 3002-6, 3729/30 and 3863/69/70/2.
The 3 had 3868 and the 3A 2212. I think the leaflet drop about refurbished buses on the 3/3A should have read the 4! 3728/31/43 were on it.
Newly-painted and refurbished Pulsar 3742 is on the 65 today.
Has 2499 moved to Shrewsbury?
Yeah
How many are now in the new fleet livery at tamworth &i take it the servjces theybare on rin from Victoria st
Quote from: Solo1 on July 04, 2017, 12:05:50 PM
How many are now in the new fleet livery at tamworth &i take it the servjces theybare on rin from Victoria st
3728-31 and 3742-3. Also 3727 if not here now it soon will be.
Usually three on the 4 and a couple on the 5/7/8 (11 buses work this group in route number order) - all from Victoria Road - but could be on anything.
Cheers, Patrick.
3727 is here once 4709 goes there should be one on the 3 one on the 3a and 3 on the 4's which leaves two to go where needed
2211/2212 are the pride of Tamworth aren't they :p
Quote from: ntw456 on July 04, 2017, 10:12:52 PM
3727 is here once 4709 goes there should be one on the 3 one on the 3a and 3 on the 4's which leaves two to go where needed
3727 is on the 4 today.
Yeah I had it earlier, I've now got 4709 on 3's
Quote from: Busman Jamie on July 04, 2017, 10:22:48 PM
2211/2212 are the pride of Tamworth aren't they :p
What's wrong with them? They're fine to me!
Yea it's good they've got them darts and knackered pulsars so they can upgrade routes with buses older than what they've replaced 😂
Quote from: Bob on July 05, 2017, 06:50:57 PM
Yea it's good they've got them darts and knackered pulsars so they can upgrade routes with buses older than what they've replaced 😂
The Pulsars are in a very good condition actually.
Well they were knackered when they left Cannock.....Someone commented on here previously that with the refreshed interiors they looked a hell of a lot better than they sounded. Can't Polish a turd to be fair
Oswestry depot took the time to improve 3727-31 and they really benefited from it, in particular 3728 which ended up been a very nice example both in appearance and mechanic condition. Shame they were moved on for those awful Scanias.
What did they do to improve them? They were pretty bad when they left cannock
4709 is about to go onto the 3 for this afternoon. Apparently this will be it's last day at Tamworth I'm told.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on July 11, 2017, 02:14:03 PM
4709 is about to go onto the 3 today. Apparently this will be it's last day at Tamworth I'm told.
Why do they retire 4709 when there are older Darts still soldiering on?
Quote from: YN64AOG on July 11, 2017, 03:49:29 PM
Why do they retire 4709 when there are older Darts still soldiering on?
What older darts are there than 4709?
Quote from: YN64AOG on July 11, 2017, 03:49:29 PM
Why do they retire 4709 when there are older Darts still soldiering on?
It's not being retired it's going to luton
Quote from: BN on July 11, 2017, 06:08:43 PM
What older darts are there than 4709?
4709 isn't a Dart, it's a DAF.
Quote from: YN64AOG on July 11, 2017, 08:56:15 PM
4709 isn't a Dart, it's a DAF.
BN never said it was a Dart, just asking what Darts are older than 4709.
I don't think any Darts left with Arriva Midlands are older than 51 reg, so newer than 4709
Quote from: Michael Bevan on July 11, 2017, 02:14:03 PM
4709 is about to go onto the 3 for this afternoon. Apparently this will be it's last day at Tamworth I'm told.
Correct, it's MOT expires tomorrow where it'll then be moved to Luton
Sapphire Mercedes 3022 is on the 5/7/8 at the moment.
Mira branded 3501 on the 110. In City now
Any plan for refurbished buses on the 3/3A still seems to be in the future. Today there were extremes - Sapphire Citaro 3022 on the 3A and Dart 2161 on the 3! 4709 is tucked away at the side of the garage.
Sapphire decker 4413 was on the 3 late this morning.
There is a 37XX Pulsar on the 110 this evening.
4414 is on the 4 this afternoon
Today 4200 worked the last day of 3A clockwise circulars and 2211 the 3 anticlockwise. The route reverts to the old way of working tomorrow with a 20 minute interval. The leaflet says 15 minutes in error and the 3 has arrows on the route map which shouldn't be there!
Sapphire Citaro 3022 is on the 35 today. Seen at Lichfield at 1150
Quote from: derningtona on September 01, 2017, 04:57:40 PM
Today 4200 worked the last day of 3A clockwise circulars and 2211 the 3 anticlockwise. The route reverts to the old way of working tomorrow with a 20 minute interval. The leaflet says 15 minutes in error and the 3 has arrows on the route map which shouldn't be there!
I drove the last one today and the timetable says every 15 mins as it for some reason includes the 2's
If anyone's interested 4408 and 4413 are on 4's today
Quote from: ntw456 on September 02, 2017, 02:15:54 PM
If anyone's interested 4408 and 4413 are on 4's today
Tamworth has 10 double deckers, all of which are needed for the weekday 15 minute interval service. The Saturday 20 minute interval service needs 8, so that's where the other two went!
In the '70s I lived in Coleshill Street in Sutton and the passing ex-Midland Red D9s on the 110 used to be projected onto my bedroom ceiling through a gap at the top of the curtains on a sunny day! I used to go and see them in Leicester after they came off the 110.
Lovely buses. Mind you I nearly got run over by one back in the day after the brakes failed on Sutton New Road the poor old driver pulling for all he was worth on the hand brake! Luckily I just got out of the way in time live to tell the tale!!
Despite being "withdrawn" in May, 2211 soldiers on in Tamworth. Today it was working the 2.
Quote from: derningtona on October 05, 2017, 11:12:18 AM
Despite being "withdrawn" in May, 2211 soldiers on in Tamworth. Today it was working the 2.
It's not a bad little bus to be fair!
It's still knocking about it was working route 35 this afternoon Lichfield to Walsall
Has anyone noted 2447 and 2448, sent to Tamworth from Milton Keynes?
I saw 2448 on the 4 in Glascote Road on the 22nd September but next time round it had been changed.
Are they still at Tamworth?
47 is in refurb along with 50 and 48 was out today on 3's
Any more solos to come? Heard there is possibly for cannock
2448 is still at Tamworth am not about 2447 i would of thought so
Quote from: ntw456 on October 11, 2017, 06:12:38 PM
47 is in refurb along with 50 and 48 was out today on 3's
Thanks for that. 2448 is on the 3 again today, together with 2211.
Quote from: mark114 on October 11, 2017, 08:21:37 PM
2448 is still at Tamworth am not about 2447 i would of thought so
2447 is currently in for refurb.
According to a couple of post's on Facebook, Tamworth is operating Rail Replacement's today between Lichfield Trent Valley and Birmingham New Street. Also they are operating between Birmingham International and Leamington Spa.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on October 29, 2017, 10:41:31 AM
According to a couple of post's on Facebook, Tamworth is operating Rail Replacement's today between Lichfield Trent Valley and Birmingham New Street. Also they are operating between Birmingham International and Leamington Spa.
Are they both all day and how much is a single, from Erdington or Chester Road to Sutton and where at those stations will the rail rep uses pick up? Also are there any other ops on them today.
Ther Lichfield to Birmingham is till about 2, leamington spa is all day, there's also central buses on here
Quote from: 2206 on October 29, 2017, 10:58:44 AM
Are they both all day and how much is a single, from Erdington or Chester Road to Sutton and where at those stations will the rail rep uses pick up? Also are there any other ops on them today.
Prices are train prices and stops are train stops
That's kinda how rail replacement works.....
3505/3728/3869 are all on the 110 today. I know one or 2 non Sapphires is probably common but 3 surely doesn't happen everyday
There's two deckers off the road that would be why
3002/3003/3005 all noted on Birmingham-Lichfield rail replacements today
4200 back from paint
Quote from: ntw456 on November 08, 2017, 08:00:49 AM
4200 back from paint
On the 110 today, in Sutton Coldfield at about 12:50.
Hello all could anyone tell me the best place to see all arrival services I was told the interchange but I believe most or all buses don't serve there info would be appreciated
Thank you
Mark
Quote from: mark114 on November 16, 2017, 11:01:38 PM
Hello all could anyone tell me the best place to see all arrival services I was told the interchange but I believe most or all buses don't serve there info would be appreciated
Thank you
Mark
Choice of Victoria Road or Corporation Street to get everything in Tamworth, services go from either terminus. No interchange as such in Tamworth.
Thank you so much cheese for replying to my post also for answering my question big help and much appreciated thank you again
Quote from: 2206 on November 11, 2017, 02:19:33 PM
On the 110 today, in Sutton Coldfield at about 12:50.
How come the main site says it's transferred to Derby?
I'm sure I saw 4200 in the City Centre yesterday on the 110 at about 16:00?
Is it due to transfer to Derby at some point
@Tony ?
Quote from: 2206 on November 26, 2017, 02:23:04 PM
How come the main site says it's transferred to Derby?
I'm sure I saw 4200 in the City Centre yesterday on the 110 at about 16:00?
Is it due to transfer to Derby at some point @Tony ?
It was showing as allocated to Derby while it was there for repaint
2447 on the 35 & 2450 on the 765 seen this lunchtime in Lichfield
2491 will be Joing Tamworth with 2496 2497 In new livery
Went here yesterday for around 3 hours the only ones I did not see were 2448/2702/2704/3003/3006/3502/3507/3868/3872 can anyone confirm these vehicles are still here
Thank you
2702 is a Telford bus?
Thank you so much again Busman Jamie on commenting on my post regarding my visit to Tamworth yesterday yesterday also on the info on 2702 I do wish the fleet lists can be up dated a lot better then they are now what's the point of looking for a bus when it Say's it's in a different location to where it should be thank you again for the info much appreciated
Mark
Quote from: mark114 on December 03, 2017, 02:10:57 PM
I do wish the fleet lists can be up dated a lot better then they are now what's the point of looking for a bus when it Say's it's in a different location to where it should be thank you again for the info much appreciated
Mark
That's a very ungrateful comment, wow I made a mistake when typing about 70,000 pages into a website to help people, and I haven't got around to updating the fleetlist within 4 hours of getting a fresh list from the company.
Tony please do not get me wrong I was not having a go at anyone you included the point I trying to make is a lot of people use this website so yes I totally agree you did say you made a mistake it happens please accept my apology if you thought my comments were wrong like I said I was just looking for a bus my fault really I just went to the wrong location thinking this bus was out and about sadly it was not
Quote from: mark114 on December 03, 2017, 02:50:35 PM
Tony please do not get me wrong I was not having a go at anyone you included the point I trying to make is a lot of people use this website so yes I totally agree you did say you made a mistake it happens please accept my apology if you thought my comments were wrong like I said I was just looking for a bus my fault really I just went to the wrong location thinking this bus was out and about sadly it was not
You really don't know how lucky you are nowadays, up until a few years back you always had to rely on either 'Buses' or the PSV circle, both of which the news was about two months behind by the time you got to read it. When you visited any town the fleet was always slightly different to what you were expecting. I do my best with the fleetlists, but remember it is just me updating that whole site.
It can be impossible to keep fleet lists upto date because buses can transfer in the blink of an eye
Quote from: Busman Jamie on December 03, 2017, 04:15:36 PM
It can be impossible to keep fleet lists upto date because buses can transfer in the blink of an eye
precisely, when NXWM 4147 & 4180 moved last month I was asked on the Wednesday to get a bus to BC by the following Monday. Wolverhampton had the spare bus, but it couldn't go to BC because of the ticket machine so two moves had to be organised in 3 days
Quote from: Tony on December 03, 2017, 04:13:37 PM
You really don't know how lucky you are nowadays, up until a few years back you always had to rely on either 'Buses' or the PSV circle, both of which the news was about two months behind by the time you got to read it. When you visited any town the fleet was always slightly different to what you were expecting. I do my best with the fleetlists, but remember it is just me updating that whole site.
Absolutely right Tony - and you do all this on top of a full time job.
I'm one of hopefully many who really appreciate having all this information on tap here.
2702 is at Telford seen yesterday
Thank you so much Ck for this up date
Mark
Absolutely it was just the same with rail news!
Yesterday 2212 was on the 3 and 2703 was on the 2. Today was the day of the Solos, however:-
2447 was on the 3, 2448 was on the 4, 2450 was on the 2, 2496 was on the 3 and 2497 was on the X65! 3001 was on the 65 instead.
I seen a post somewhere I believe it was on the fleet changes regarding 2491/2496/2497 can anyone confirm if these are based or working out of Tamworth info would be greatly appreciated
Mark
Quote from: mark114 on December 20, 2017, 11:24:29 PM
I seen a post somewhere I believe it was on the fleet changes regarding 2491/2496/2497 can anyone confirm if these are based or working out of Tamworth info would be greatly appreciated
Mark
See reply no. 742 above.
As I said yesterday 2496/7 are working from Tamworth. I haven't seen 2491 yet - it'll probably be here as soon as it's painted.
Thank you so much for your post derningtona greatly appreciated yes I did see your previous post regarding the above vehicles I only questioned it because I have checked on the web site and it States on there they are down or based at Milton Keynes but again thank you
That's because it takes Tony time to update the fleet lists he can't get every fleet up to date all the time when you think of the many movements & transfers of all these companies.
Thank you for your opinion steveminor just for the record I am not blaming Tony at all in fact I am not blaming anyone the reason I worded it the way I did because when the previous post seen these vehicles le 2496/2497 I just checked on where they were based so again please don't get me wrong I am blaming no one I hope this puts the record straight
Arriva 110 apparently 120 mins late. Wow
@MW them sapphires are rapid, bet the mercs are as fast too
This afternoon 3004, 3728 and 3731 were on the 65 together with one branded. 3022 was on the 5/7/8 and 4200 left Tamworth at 15.30 on the 110 to Birmingham.
Quote from: derningtona on January 10, 2018, 04:03:18 PM
This afternoon 3004, 3728 and 3731 were on the 65 together with one branded. 3022 was on the 5/7/8 and 4200 left Tamworth at 15.30 on the 110 to Birmingham.
Why did they make the merc citaro sapphire? I never see it on the 110 and is usually as stated got 4200 on instead
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 10, 2018, 05:09:44 PM
Why did they make the merc citaro sapphire? I never see it on the 110 and is usually as stated got 4200 on instead
The Citaro was Sapphire before it came to Tamworth.
It was Sapphire when it was on the 321 (Luton - Watford).
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 10, 2018, 05:09:44 PM
Why did they make the merc citaro sapphire? I never see it on the 110 and is usually as stated got 4200 on instead
They didn't 'make' the Citaro a Sapphire, it arrived in the Midlands as a Sapphire and yes it does work on the 110, but you won't see it in Halesowen very often
http://wmbusphotos.com/Arriva/3022.html
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 10, 2018, 05:09:44 PM
Why did they make the merc citaro sapphire? I never see it on the 110 and is usually as stated got 4200 on instead
It does get on the 110, just as 4200 and the Sapphire E400s get on the local routes, just as Platinums end up on non Platinum NX routes, so be it
They got it originally because they needed extra vehicles to provide the enhanced frequency
Cannock's 3795 is on the 5/7/8 this afternoon.
Too new for Cannock? 🤣
I had it this morning
Quote from: ntw456 on January 11, 2018, 09:19:06 PM
I had it this morning
Do you drive all routes? What's your favourite route and bus?
@ntw456
Yeah I do and probably 3022 or 3005
Is it just a loan?
Yeah
This morning 3795 and 4412 were on the 4 and 3743 was on the 110.
Looks like Arriva Tamworth Garage is having an open day and running day later this year...
https://www.facebook.com/Tamworth-Garage-90th-Anniversary-Open-Day-Running-Day-893201237514898/
Quote from: Michael Bevan on January 23, 2018, 08:01:59 PM
Looks like Arriva Tamworth Garage is having an open day and running day later this year...
https://www.facebook.com/Tamworth-Garage-90th-Anniversary-Open-Day-Running-Day-893201237514898/
I wonder if there will be another "Midland Red" liveried bus, like there was for the 80th birthday.
I will have to get my Verometer ticket machine out!
Re the February timetable changes, it's interesting that the three earliest 110s from Tamworth start with a trip round the "4" route.
Does anyone know of the new linkings? From what I can see, the 4 and 5, 7 and 8 and 765 and 785/6 are linked.
Quote from: derningtona on January 27, 2018, 04:00:55 AM
Re the February timetable changes, it's interesting that the three earliest 110s from Tamworth start with a trip round the "4" route.
Does anyone know of the new linkings? From what I can see, the 4 and 5, 7 and 8 and 765 and 785/6 are linked.
Yeah that's right also the 785/6 are moving to corporation street
3728 seen on the X65 earlier. Not sure on rarity so posted in this thread
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on January 27, 2018, 07:27:40 PM
3728 seen on the X65 earlier. Not sure on rarity so posted in this thread
Not that rare normally when there's a merc of anything gets put on
Quote from: ntw456 on January 27, 2018, 07:32:38 PM
Not that rare normally when there's a merc of anything gets put on
Thanks
This afternoon 2491 (ex Milton Keynes) was on the 4 and 3022 was on the 65.
Anyone know if any of Tamworth's Citaros will be on Rail Replacements Banbury-Birmingham Intl this Sunday. I know the last time these Rail Reps were on in November there were some out
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on February 08, 2018, 04:22:19 PM
Anyone know if any of Tamworth's Citaros will be on Rail Replacements Banbury-Birmingham Intl this Sunday. I know the last time these Rail Reps were on in November there were some out
They *shouldn't* be!
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on February 08, 2018, 04:22:19 PM
Anyone know if any of Tamworth's Citaros will be on Rail Replacements Banbury-Birmingham Intl this Sunday. I know the last time these Rail Reps were on in November there were some out
Nope we've got no rail replacements
4407's front Display way displaying rubbish yesterday on the 110. The 0 looked more like a 6.
I travelled from Tamworth to Sutton and back on 4200 the other day. It had very smartly trimmed seats and the "baby blue" livery but the transmission sounded very rough after 10 years on the 110.
B7RLE 3863 has been swapped with VDL 3792 from Aylesbury according to the Tamworth Garage Facebook page
Quote from: John on March 24, 2018, 06:28:59 PM
B7RLE 3863 has been swapped with VDL 3792 from Aylesbury according to the Tamworth Garage Facebook page
There was a rumour that new E200MMCs were due at Tamworth in due course - can anybody in the know confirm ?
What route would they be needed for?
They would proberbly replace the scania?
3741 at Tamworth to
They would replace scanias for definite
Why? Theyre 2008 plate arent they? And just used on any old route?
There the most unreliable
If you based replacements on that wouldnt most of Cannocks fleet need upgrading?
While waiting to get a photo of a diamond on an ex Central route noted two standard buses on the 110, the second one standing behind Sapphire buses on the 2 and 3.
.
Wrexham seem to have little trouble keeping branded Sapphire buses on the 1 and the unbranded ones on the 5 and 41 and Rhyl the ones off the 1 on the X51 so why does every English depot seem to make a farce of it?
The Pulsars at Tamworth might look better now but sound knackered...Notice how their repaints get leather seat refurbs while Cannocks get a low rent seat retrim ( cadet), threadbare original interior left ( Solo) or nothing done inside ( Dart)
Quote from: Bob on March 26, 2018, 09:21:47 PM
The Pulsars at Tamworth might look better now but sound knackered...Notice how their repaints get leather seat refurbs while Cannocks get a low rent seat retrim ( cadet), threadbare original interior left ( Solo) or nothing done inside ( Dart)
When I went on cannocks solo 240* I believe it had very nice interior- in fact preferred it to Tamworth 55 reg solo for comfort obviously not power
One or two of Cannocks have been leatheretted inside
Quote from: Bob on March 26, 2018, 09:21:47 PM
The Pulsars at Tamworth might look better now but sound knackered...Notice how their repaints get leather seat refurbs while Cannocks get a low rent seat retrim ( cadet), threadbare original interior left ( Solo) or nothing done inside ( Dart)
Name me one Pulsar that sounds "knackered".
All 5 of the 57 plates unless theyve been completely reengineered since leaving Cannock....
Quote from: Bob on March 28, 2018, 03:12:25 PM
All 5 of the 57 plates unless theyve been completely reengineered since leaving Cannock....
None have them have been reengineered...none of them sound rough. You have no idea what you're talking about.
They looked st sounded knackered at cannock. They couldnt even pull away from a stop without over revving to the point of the engine screaming its head off
3727-31 as posted in the CK section a while ago to you had some TLC whilst at Oswestry, 3728 came in very rough and was very well when it left with the batch for Tamwouth via a refurb, good buses and well missed unlike those nasty Scanias. Oswestry has turned 3510 from the worst of the batch to probably the best of those now just like they did with 3728 though putting time and effort into them been a small engineering team that take pride in the fleet.
From a passenger point of view Scanias are a lot smoother and quieter than any SB200...their engines arent over revving and screaming at any requirement of a slight hint of acceleration or power required lol
Quote from: Bob on March 29, 2018, 09:39:04 PM
They looked st sounded knackered at cannock. They couldnt even pull away from a stop without over revving to the point of the engine screaming its head off
But that's nothing to do with the engine, it's more so the gearbox. Voith boxes deploy power a lot differently compared to a ZF box.
Yea but voith metrobuses and B10Bs never used to sound like they were gonna explode pulling away or accelerating
Quote from: Bob on March 30, 2018, 10:52:35 AM
Yea but voith metrobuses and B10Bs never used to sound like they were gonna explode pulling away or accelerating
Yeah because the B10Bs and Metrobuses were great vehicles... *rolls eyes*
Certainly better than any sb200...
3792 just entering City on the 110 if anyone needs it
What's the story with Tamworth running the 3A on Sundays?
Quote from: Dutsey on April 10, 2018, 07:24:11 AM
What's the story with Tamworth running the 3A on Sundays?
How do you mean?
Quote from: Dutsey on April 10, 2018, 07:24:11 AM
What's the story with Tamworth running the 3A on Sundays?
Which other Arriva garage is gonna operate it? Cannock is closed Sunday's now
Didn't realise the Cannock Depot had shut
Quote from: Dutsey on April 10, 2018, 12:28:02 PM
Didn't realise the Cannock Depot had shut
Only on Sundays.
They'll more than likely either not bother bidding or lose the tender next time.
One of Tamworths repainted Sb200s running from Cannock today
3727
4412 was on the 4/5 this morning
"Hockley Hopper" branded Citaro on the 110, 16:45 on Moor Street Queensway in city centre
Quote from: Kevin on April 21, 2018, 04:44:23 PM
"Hockley Hopper" branded Citaro on the 110, 16:45 on Moor Street Queensway in city centre
There's no hockley hopper branded now
Wonder if Tamworth drivers are quietly fuming that this is the second time they've got other garages out of the ****?
(After spotting a Tamworth vehicle on the otherwise Cannock 3a service!)
If you're in Tamworth, do you really want to come to Brownhills & Walsall on a Sunday?
Quote from: ntw456 on April 21, 2018, 07:19:00 PM
There's no hockley hopper branded now
Something in Brum with some sort of Hockley branding on then, pass on what the specific wording was
Quote from: Westy on April 22, 2018, 11:27:20 AM
Wonder if Tamworth drivers are quietly fuming that this is the second time they've got other garages out of the ****?
(After spotting a Tamworth vehicle on the otherwise Cannock 3a service!)
If you're in Tamworth, do you really want to come to Brownhills & Walsall on a Sunday?
Most Drivers don't care what they are driving!
Quote from: ntw456 on April 21, 2018, 07:19:00 PM
There's no hockley hopper branded now
They've took off the n/s advert and it's revealed what's left of the branding
3729 is on the 110, in the City Centre at 15:20.
Quote from: 2206 on April 28, 2018, 04:48:34 PM
3729 is on the 110, in the City Centre at 15:20.
It would be hell on earth going down the Expressway on one of those the noise level would be deafening. I remember a 52 plate sb200 being used on X31 once it was deafening on the m6
A SB200 wright commander down the A460 is bad enough
Quote from: 2206 on April 28, 2018, 04:48:34 PM
3729 is on the 110, in the City Centre at 15:20.
Does this meet Birmingham SQPS criteria ?
Quote from: metrocity on April 28, 2018, 11:09:07 PM
Does this meet Birmingham SQPS criteria ?
I'd have thought it would be Euro 4 and met SQPS rules
All buses at tamworth meet the criteria
3727 on it's way back to Tamworth after a short visit back home
Today 4415 and 3763 (another Cannock loan?) were on the 4/5 and 3003 was on the 3 in the new livery (but NOT with the Ariel soap powder type logo and not specifically Tamworth).
Spotted X65 branded 3001 doing the last 3E yesterday evening.
3904 (the driver said it was going back today) and 4407 are on the 4/5.
4410 spent the day on the 110 with all the destination blinds faulty and paper numbers.
3904 is still at Tamworth. It was on the 65 today.
Cannock-based 3306 on the 110.
Is this normal? (stupid question)
Quote from: CL on June 27, 2018, 03:41:34 PM
Cannock-based 3306 on the 110.
Is this normal? (stupid question)
It's on loan to Tamworth.
And 3763 - still at Tamworth and on the 4/5 this afternoon
Quote from: derningtona on June 27, 2018, 04:55:40 PM
And 3763 - still at Tamworth and on the 4/5 this afternoon
As I've mentioned before 63 is Now a tamworth vehicle
Yea i did. I was being sarcastic. Would be 1 less Streets###e at Cannock thats all. Cause for a celebration
Quote from: Bob on June 27, 2018, 07:51:33 PM
Yea i did. I was being sarcastic. Would be 1 less Streets###e at Cannock thats all. Cause for a celebration
My bad I didn't see that 🙄 was looking at 3763 post 😂 and no we don't want them at tamworth
Quote from: ntw456 on June 27, 2018, 07:54:26 PM
My bad I didn't see that 🙄 was looking at 3763 post 😂 and no we don't want them at tamworth
Why not lol? You had 2 before
I was at Cannock then 😂 there no good for the 110's
Quote from: ntw456 on June 27, 2018, 08:35:16 PM
I was at Cannock then 😂 there no good for the 110's
How come?
If anyone is looking for 3306 today, it left Fazeley at 12.40 on the 110 to Brum.
Does anyone know whether 2744 (on May's transfer list) is actually at Tamworth?
Does anyone know whether 2744 (on May's transfer list) is actually at Tamworth?
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It wasn't when I finished last night so I don't think it is fingers crossed
Quote from: derningtona on June 28, 2018, 01:25:09 PM
If anyone is looking for 3306 today, it left Fazeley at 12.40 on the 110 to Brum.
Does anyone know whether 2744 (on May's transfer list) is actually at Tamworth?
No, we had 3763 instead.
Quote from: Ian Hardy on June 08, 2018, 10:00:17 AM
I am not sure whether these are unusual or not:
4200 on 110 02/06/18
3000 on 110 03/06/18
Ian Hardy
Nothing unusual about 4200 on the 110.
Why do the charging points never work on the sapphires? Dont think ive ever been on a tamworth or cannock vehicle where they have!
4200 is on the 4/5 this afternoon.
3004 on the 7/8 alternately displaying"It's coming home" with destination.
StreetDeck demo is out on the 110. Not long left City
Does anyone know how long the Streetdeck demo is at Tamworth for ?
StreetDeck SK18 TKX should be leaving Tamworth about 13.25 on the 110 to Brum.
If anyone sees TKX, could you possibly let me know? I've already got a photo, from its offside, but I'd like to take a photograph of its nearside. Many thanks.
update: nevermind. all I needed was a little patience. :D
Anyone seen the Streetdeck out today?
No need, found it. 14:25 ex Brum if anyone else wants
Quote from: Kevin on July 16, 2018, 12:16:08 PM
Anyone seen the Streetdeck out today?
It left Sutton Coldfield at 12:25 towards Tamworth,
@Kevin.
If anyone's after it today, it left Tamworth at 10.30 and Mile Oak at 10.45 to Brum
Quote from: derningtona on July 17, 2018, 11:02:44 AM
If anyone's after it today, it left Tamworth at 10.30 and Mile Oak at 10.45 to Brum
The Streetdeck SK18TKX was on the 110 in Birmingham City Centre on Bull Street at 11:39.
Looks strange seeing this on the 110.
Does anyone know how long its staying at Tamworth for?
Quote from: 2206 on July 17, 2018, 01:18:54 PM
The Streetdeck SK18TKX was on the 110 in Birmingham City Centre on Bull Street at 11:39.
Looks strange seeing this on the 110.
Does anyone know how long its staying at Tamworth for?
It went back today
What was the interior of the streetdeck like?
Is there still an open day next weekend? I'm interested in going along to it but I can't find any information about it.
Quote from: StourValley98 on July 27, 2018, 05:14:02 PM
Is there still an open day next weekend? I'm interested in going along to it but I can't find any information about it.
Arriva Midlands facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/pg/arrivamidlandswest/posts/?ref=page_internal) and the Arriva Midlands Enthusiast facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/pg/UKBEGarriva/posts/?ref=page_internal).
Hope this helps :)
Quote from: StourValley98 on July 27, 2018, 05:14:02 PM
Is there still an open day next weekend? I'm interested in going along to it but I can't find any information about it.
Link for official page for the open day
https://en-gb.facebook.com/tamworthrunningday/
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on July 27, 2018, 05:37:05 PM
Link for official page for the open day
https://en-gb.facebook.com/tamworthrunningday/
Ah cheers, I don't use Facebook since I don't trust them as a company so I never looked on there.
Quote from: StourValley98 on July 27, 2018, 07:17:29 PM
Ah cheers, I don't use Facebook since I don't trust them as a company so I never looked on there.
Me neither, that was just from a quick google search. At least you can still view pages on there
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on July 27, 2018, 07:18:44 PM
Me neither, that was just from a quick google search. At least you can still view pages on there
Yeah, that's true at least. I did try googling it myself but nothing came up, so thanks for the help.
I was only there for an hour or so in total, but even then, the open day today was quite enjoyable. Thanks to the team at the garage for putting it on, hopefully
@Simon@Arriva could pass on my thanks if nobody from that garage uses this site. I'll hopefully make it along to the next event, be that Cannon Hill, Showbus or something else.
Quote from: StourValley98 on August 05, 2018, 11:20:32 PM
I was only there for an hour or so in total, but even then, the open day today was quite enjoyable. Thanks to the team at the garage for putting it on, hopefully @Simon@Arriva could pass on my thanks if nobody from that garage uses this site. I'll hopefully make it along to the next event, be that Cannon Hill, Showbus or something else.
Hi
I will indeed pass this on.
It was a lovely day and I was very proud of the team.
I enjoyed the open day, it was an interesting selection of vehicles on display in the garage.
The bus rides around the Tamworth area were enjoyable and I think that it was a good idea to run two buses per departure, it enable at lot more people to have rides.
I had a ride on 5919 on the 11:30 707 to Stoneydelph, 5545 on the 12:15 786 to Newton Regis & lastly Rochdale 235 on the 13:45 110 to Mile Oak.
Thank you to the Arriva staff and the vehicle owners for a good day. I hope the event raised lots of money for local charities.
Just a comment on the otherwise excellent programme:
All the departures were timed from Corporation Street but then they returned to Corportation Street :-)
It was well worth planning to spend last weekend to go on the railway lines being used by trains avoiding Derby rather than using one of the many other weekends between July and October to do the track bashing instead.
Sorry for the delay in posting this but I have just got home (in West London) having returned from my long weekend based in Chesterfield.
Ian Hardy
I'm really happy to see the comments about this, I can honestly say I'm proud to be part of tamworth garage, and being part of the open day was amazing
@Merciandamo this all happened thanks to you!
Thanks for the wonderful feedback,
The day itself went fantastic, everything seemed to fit together just right and I think everyone who visited walked away with a smile on there faces.
Id personally like to thank all those who attended it, it was a real pleasure to meet enthusiasts on the day. The atmosphere was brilliant and the memories people were sharing really made it worthwhile.
Whilst I'm here I must mention the great team leading up to and on the day. I certainly couldn't of done it without them!
Might start planning the 100th soon ;)
Thanks to All :) :) :) :) :) :)
Cannock's 3723 is on the late night Tamworth 3A tonight.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on September 02, 2018, 08:55:55 PM
Cannock's 3723 is on the late night Tamworth 3A tonight.
You sure 😉
Quote from: ntw456 on September 03, 2018, 11:16:29 PM
You sure 😉
Considering you were driving it
@ntw456, I'm quite sure...Unless you broke down or got it swapped...
Hi all, I know this question would be better directed towards Arriva themselves but I can't see them answering the phone at this time. Does anyone know if the 110 would accept a Network pass from Birmingham to Sutton Coldfield at all?
Quote from: StourValley98 on October 17, 2018, 11:13:23 PM
Hi all, I know this question would be better directed towards Arriva themselves but I can't see them answering the phone at this time. Does anyone know if the 110 would accept a Network pass from Birmingham to Sutton Coldfield at all?
The nbus and nnetwork ticket are valid as far as bassets pole from Birmingham
Quote from: ntw456 on October 17, 2018, 11:15:24 PM
The nbus and nnetwork ticket are valid as far as bassets pole from Birmingham
Thanks mate, much appreciated.
is the sapphire Mercedes back at Tamworth from cannock
Quote from: Jordan on October 20, 2018, 06:58:06 PM
is the sapphire Mercedes back at Tamworth from cannock
Yes
4411 on on Tamworth routes 4/5 this morning
4407's front blind isn't working at all on the 110, side and rear ones are fine however.
Quote from: StourValley98 on December 02, 2018, 12:07:03 PM
4407's front blind isn't working at all on the 110, side and rear ones are fine however.
It does every now and again
3805 is operating in Tamworth, noted in new livery with new logos.
4410 is on the Tamworth 4/5 today with just a route number on a piece of paper stuck behind the windscreen.
It is 4415's turn on the Tamworth 4/5 today. This seems to be getting regular!
For anyone interested 2142 has transferred to tamworth with 3731 heading to cannock
Quote from: ntw456 on January 24, 2019, 06:27:39 PM
For anyone interested 2142 has transferred to tamworth with 3731 heading to cannock
Not seen it mentioned but 3742 has also been at Cannock a few weeks.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on January 25, 2019, 09:58:16 AM
Not seen it mentioned but 3742 has also been at Cannock a few weeks.
We had 3806 in replacement
2142 MX12 CEY back at Telford as on the 19 Telford- Lightmoor - Shrewsbury as I post this towards the end of its destination.
4600 has now moved to Tamworth from Derby
Quote from: John on February 13, 2019, 03:39:16 PM
4600 has now moved to Tamworth from Derby
Looks like it is out today on the 110
Quote from: John on February 14, 2019, 11:16:34 AM
Looks like it is out today on the 110
It's first full day at Tamworth hasn't gone too well...It's currently sat at Aston University broken down...
Rather curious as to whether 4600 has been seen in service since the 14th? Hoping to snap a few photos soon enough. Cheers.
Quote from: CL on February 18, 2019, 10:05:02 PM
Rather curious as to whether 4600 has been seen in service since the 14th? Hoping to snap a few photos soon enough. Cheers.
Was last out Saturday morning on the 3, Only lasted 2 trips before getting replaced
Quote from: John on February 18, 2019, 10:18:59 PM
Was last out Saturday morning on the 3, Only lasted 2 trips before getting replaced
Ah, okay. Cheers. Sounds a bit like a hit-and-miss one to catch. ;) Thanks, again.
No sign of 4600 on the 110 on the 18th or today the 21st. (or for that matter 4200 - is it still here?- or 4412) when I checked the 10 buses. Today is a bit of a mess. 3004, 3005 and 3932 were all on the 110 and I was going to Birmingham on 4411 when something went wrong at Bassetts Pole and it had to return to Tamworth empty. 4413 was on the 110 this morning but I have just passed it this afternoon on the Tamworth 4/5! I ended up having rides on all three single deckers quite accidentally.
4600 was on Tamworth locals
4200 and 4600 are sharing Tamworth route 3 this morning.
Next weeekend they are doing a shuttle to Statfold Barn - I don't recall that before. Have they had complaints of cars blocking roads?
Probably due to it's new status it's being promoted as a family day rather than an enthusiasts day where in the past you had to request an invitation it's now open to the public.
While it is open to the public if I read the website correctly it is only open to holders of a limited number of pre-booked tickets.
I believe it's pay on entry up to a pre determined limit then no more admissions.
3704 was on the Tamworth 4/5 this afternoon.
..... and 3909 on the 4/5 this aftrnoon
Quote from: derningtona on March 18, 2019, 07:09:46 PM
3704 was on the Tamworth 4/5 this afternoon.
We currently have 3701-4 on loan whilst the deckers go away for retrofit
Quote from: ntw456 on March 19, 2019, 08:34:01 PM
We currently have 3701-4 on loan whilst the deckers go away for retrofit
Does 3704 still have the knackered diff it had for years at Cannock? Surely all 4 are coming up for withdrawal ?
Quote from: ntw456 on March 19, 2019, 08:34:01 PM
We currently have 3701-4 on loan whilst the deckers go away for retrofit
Which deckers are away for retrofit?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 19, 2019, 09:28:20 PM
Which deckers are away for retrofit?
At the moment 4407-4410
Quote from: Bob on March 19, 2019, 08:51:34 PM
Does 3704 still have the knackered diff it had for years at Cannock? Surely all 4 are coming up for withdrawal ?
When I last saw them at Telford before Christmas, 3701-2 and 3704 drove like dreams. 3703 ended up with a knackered diff and a dodgy gearbox. Whether this changed, however
???Anyone got a pic of 3006 in the midland red livery I know this was in red about a year back do has it changed
Quote from: Solo1 on March 29, 2019, 07:59:38 PM
Anyone got a pic of 3005 in the midland red livery I know this was in red about a year back do has it changed
It's 3006
Quote from: Solo1 on March 29, 2019, 07:59:38 PM
Anyone got a pic of 3005 in the midland red livery I know this was in red about a year back do has it changed
It's on about 6 or 7 different Facebook groups, was previously in tamworth bid wrap
Quote from: Solo1 on March 29, 2019, 07:59:38 PM
???Anyone got a pic of 3006 in the midland red livery I know this was in red about a year back do has it changed
Here's one of mine from 22.9.17 - not Midland Red but Bid Tamworth. 3417 was Midland Red back in 2008.
4408 is back as it is on the Tamworth 4/5 this afternoon.
Branded 3501 is on the 7/8 (two ordinary-liveried ones noticed on the 65)
Anyone know how much a child single is on the 110 from Birmingham to Fazeley
Quote from: Jack D on April 18, 2019, 07:07:17 AM
Anyone know how much a child single is on the 110 from Birmingham to Fazeley
Either £2.50 or £2.60 depending on which stop you are getting off at.
Quote from: derningtona on March 30, 2019, 10:13:47 PM
Here's one of mine from 22.9.17 - not Midland Red but Bid Tamworth. 3417 was Midland Red back in 2008.
and here's mine from today in Cannock on the Pye Greens , on loan from Tamworth
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gardnergav/46737904995/in/dateposted-public/
Quote from: cannockanorak on April 20, 2019, 10:16:33 PM
and here's mine from today in Cannock on the Pye Greens , on loan from Tamworth
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gardnergav/46737904995/in/dateposted-public/
It's very nice to see another in "Midland Red" livery. By the way, the Tamworth businesses voted not to go ahead with the "Business Improvement District" (BID). It always looked a bit sad. I hope the new livery stays bright. Red can fade badly.
There seems to be quite a bit of loaning going on between Cannock and Tamworth.
Have 3701-4 gone? I haven't seen one in Tamworth this month.
At least one of 3701-4 was running from Cannock last week. Presumably theyre now end of life?
Quote from: Bob on April 23, 2019, 08:44:38 PM
At least one of 3701-4 was running from Cannock last week. Presumably theyre now end of life?
3701 is at Telford. 3702/3 are at Cannock 3704 is still at Tamworth currently on the pits and will be going back to Telford when fixed I believe
3704 is out this afternoon on the Tamworth 3. 3022 was noted on the 4/5.
Noted on 07/05/2019: 3703 - FD52 GGU was noted working on Thurmaston's (Leicester) route 14, with a bit of paper in the windscreen, in lieu of a working destination display.
Noted on 08/05/2019: 3704 - FD52 GGV was noted working on Thurmaston's (Leicester) route 53.
3006 is working the SB1 (Statfold Barn) today
..... and the 65 to Nuneaton today.
Citaro followed by VDL pulsar on 110 today
I notice that the 110 is receiving new branding. The example I saw today looks awful. You can still see the outline of all the previous branding quite clearly. The dents on lower panels doesn't enhance the look either.
4411 - the ghosts of the previous branding clearly visible.
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4407 has list the branding off the engine cover but the rest is unchanged. It was on the 2 after repairs and although side and rear displays were working the front wasn't.
Mira liveried 3502 on the 3 and 3503 on the 5.
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3006 later seen leaving Birmingham around 17.10 on 110 with not more than a dozen passengers.
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4600 is on the 110 today after six months of being confined to local routes. It should do the 13:35 and 15:35 departures from Birmingham back to Tamworth before going back to garage.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on July 21, 2019, 01:30:31 PM
4600 is on the 110 today after six months of being confined to local routes. It should do the 13:35 and 15:35 departures from Birmingham back to Tamworth before going back to garage.
6 months on local services? Funny that because it's only been back three weeks form having a brand new engine.
According to bustimes.org, Dart 2367 is was on the 110
2 pulsars and streetdeck on 110. 110 branded on 3
My 110 driver exited the Aston expressway as there was major congestion on there and went round the roundabout and that way. He also then entered Birmingham the way they used to believe before they changed it. Nice to see drivers using initiative
3811 branded for Leicester route 53 is on routes 4/5 today.
Quote from: derningtona on September 05, 2019, 01:00:44 PM
3811 branded for Leicester route 53 is on routes 4/5 today.
It's been taken off now, I had it this morning nice bus to drive
Not sure how long its been in this state but 4412 is currently completely free of branding and fleetnames.. Out on the 110, at the moment. Can't imagine it'll stay in that livery for much longer? ??? Unless it's meant to gain the intermediate branding
Quote from: CL on September 09, 2019, 11:43:52 AM
Not sure how long its been in this state but 4412 is currently completely free of branding and fleetnames.. Out on the 110, at the moment. Can't imagine it'll stay in that livery for much longer? ??? Unless it's meant to gain the intermediate branding
It will get the new branding. Would be no point de branding it to repaint it still at Tamworth. Surely that would be done at Derby paintshop
Quote from: CL on September 09, 2019, 11:43:52 AM
Not sure how long its been in this state but 4412 is currently completely free of branding and fleetnames.. Out on the 110, at the moment. Can't imagine it'll stay in that livery for much longer? ??? Unless it's meant to gain the intermediate branding
It will be rebranded the same as the others this week I believe
Cheers both for the reply :) I'll hold my hands up and say I'm not exactly savvy with Arriva logistics ;)
3758 from Cannock is on the 4/5 this afternoon
Quote from: derningtona on September 19, 2019, 01:35:45 PM
3758 from Cannock is on the 4/5 this afternoon
We now have 3757-3760 in replacement for 3928-3931
Quote from: ntw456 on September 19, 2019, 09:11:34 PM
We now have 3757-3760 in replacement for 3928-3931
Aren't the Volvos moving as well?
Volvos are at cannock
2746 is on the 4/5 today
I travelled on 4600 yesterday for the first time. Overall not very impressed, in fact I much prefer the sapphire e400s to these. The pillars upstairs obscure a lot of your view, and it was a right rattly thing, with not much power either compared to the e400's. I do like the glass stair case though
EMA 3104 currently working Tamworth routes 4, 5 & 7
Anyone know where 3101 is currently working off?
Cheers ... Richard
3006 was being towed southbound on the M42 last night (30/6)
Who / what were towing it ?
Major fault on way to Evobus M6 J 2 maybe
Tamworth have had 3744 from Derby for around a week or two now
Currently doing one round trip on the 110, back towards Tamworth now
Quote from: Wibble on April 02, 2020, 02:42:54 PM
EMA 3104 currently working Tamworth routes 4, 5 & 7
Anyone know where 3101 is currently working off?
Cheers ... Richard
I have it 3101 is still showing Head Office
For those looking for 3795,it's just left Birmingham bound for Tamworth on the 110.
Mira branded 3503 has been repainted into standard Arriva livery.
Hello there !
Are the other MIRA buses being painted standard colour as well ?
Quote from: Vulcan on March 19, 2021, 04:20:42 PM
Hello there !
Are the other MIRA buses being painted standard colour as well ?
Hopefully, as some of the ones that have been debranded look a mess at the moment, as you can still see parts of the branding on them.
Quote from: Vulcan on March 19, 2021, 04:20:42 PM
Hello there !
Are the other MIRA buses being painted standard colour as well ?
3501 in for repaint as we speak with 3502 to follow
Saw one of them in Nuneaton yesterday with the scruffiest remnants of branding I've ever seen.
Quote from: mikestone on May 27, 2021, 08:40:42 PM
Saw one of them in Nuneaton yesterday with the scruffiest remnants of branding I've ever seen.
Yeah, I can't quite believe they're still like that. I see them on a daily basis pooting about.
(I think they're coming out of Wigston now though, not Tamworth).
Quote from: ellspurs on May 28, 2021, 06:30:57 PM
Yeah, I can't quite believe they're still like that. I see them on a daily basis pooting about.
(I think they're coming out of Wigston now though, not Tamworth).
Nope. Still Tamworth.
Quote from: Dom on May 29, 2021, 06:15:34 PM
Nope. Still Tamworth.
For some bizarre reason, I got Tamworth and Cannock confused.
Don't ask me how.
I do apologise.
Quote from: mikestone on May 27, 2021, 08:40:42 PM
Saw one of them in Nuneaton yesterday with the scruffiest remnants of branding I've ever seen.
If your referring to the e200s then that's Hinckley (Wigston)
3006 is on the 110 tonight.
3795 on the 110 has a sleigh on the side of it.
Did the E400 have NSA's when new? I've been on several on them now and none of them have any, 4412 had the screen showing stop names with no audio?
I haven't been on one since the revenge of the bat, but they all used to have announcements in a make voice
E400 had fully working NSA & display when new part of Sapphire spec
Quote from: 2206 on February 02, 2022, 08:03:16 PM
Did the E400 have NSA's when new? I've been on several on them now and none of them have any, 4412 had the screen showing stop names with no audio?
They all got turned off about 3 years ago
3512 here on loan.
Notice Arriva had a 110 missing this afternoon. Bus Times says 4410 was supposed to be the bus. It got to Ventura Park then stopped tracking. Presumably that's also where it broke down then.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/biker-throws-punch-bus-driver-23501820
Absolutely Terrible hope the driver of the 110 service is okay after that.
Looks like 4412's screen shows a stop that doesn't exist "Ashfurlong Nurseries". No sign of this bus stop at all.
For some reason it comes up as existing on bus times to.
https://bustimes.org/stops/43000557401
4412 is the only one with a working screen I think.
4600 repainted into new Arriva standard livery - out today on the 110s
An 110 E400 was being debranded and some purple livery being vinyl'd on today as I passed the depot. Possible Jubilee livery?
Quote from: jc on May 25, 2022, 06:20:24 PMPossible Jubilee livery?
On the passneger notice re bank holiday changes, they have a bus in a jubilee livery. So probably.
I did suspect they'd probably put something into a platinum jubilee livery.
Quote from: jc on May 25, 2022, 06:20:24 PMAn 110 E400 was being debranded and some purple livery being vinyl'd on today as I passed the depot. Possible Jubilee livery?
Cutting it abit fine !
Seen Ex sapphire E400 4402 in Derby depot today in the base arriva Livery. Also noted another Sapphire 110 E400 at the back of derby Garage.
Probably both there for repaint at MRC on same site
Oddly on 3806 today on 12:25 to Tamworth Town Centre. The first 2 sets of seats behind the pushchair area on the right hand side were taped off.
Quote from: 2206 on June 22, 2022, 06:43:12 PMOddly on 3806 today on 12:25 to Tamworth Town Centre. The first 2 sets of seats behind the pushchair area on the right hand side were taped off.
Perhaps there was an issue with the seats.
4411 has been repainted into the Journey Mark livery
4413 has no destination displays working today. Paper 110 number on the front with a tiny B'ham on the top corner of the paper.
110 was diverting this afternoon between Mile Oak and Bassetts Pole.
Hints Road, Watling Street, A38 London Road.
Bad experience on the 110 route today. The first bus at Little Green Lanes 4415, went straight past the stop without stopping. Second bus 4600 working 11:55 to Tamworth Town Centre, all seemed ok until it got to Bassetts Pole, where the driver veered off route and went left onto the London Road with no prewarning and then down the A5, taking people miles out of the way from Bassetts Pole stop. I told him he needs to let people know at the stop before he is going to divert. To which he replied he stopped at the bus stop before, so I told him what good is stopping there if he isn't going to tell people its going to divert. Why this one had to divert while a lot of other buses weren't is a bit odd aswell.
On the third bus 4414 12:47 to Birmingham, the driver was constantly moaning through the whole journey and making odd comments, saying is nobody going to answer. It went left at the lights at Mile Oak and took the normal route, then had a moan at a elderly man for boarding his bus at Grainsborough Drive, why he can't board there I don't know as the timetable says it stops there. When met with a 5 minute traffic delay he kept shouting should he just turn round and go back, and someone at the back shouted no.
And he said, its alright for you passengers who just get on the bus to have a sit down. Unbelievable.
Recon you report the details to the company to look at personally
Optare Versas 2964 and 2996 have arrived here.
4411 broke down in Sutton Town Centre earlier this afternoon and wouldn't turn back on at the lights, bringing Sutton to a standstill and trapping several NX buses behind in. All passengers asked to get off.
It left out of service about 20 minutes later.
3512 has returned to Derby & 3741 has transferred to Harlow
Reduced PVR moves or replaced by what ?
What is current PVR ?
Versa 2996 was parked in Lichfield Bus Station earlier this morning , not sure if this is now in use at Tamworth or just passing through.
Quote from: tphi12000 on December 23, 2022, 10:13:58 AMVersa 2996 was parked in Lichfield Bus Station earlier this morning , not sure if this is now in use at Tamworth or just passing through.
Yeah it's in use here now.
Scania 3500 has been withdrawn.
Quote from: SG on December 23, 2022, 10:55:45 PMScania 3500 has been withdrawn.
I'm starting to feel old, I drove that brand new on its first day in service.
Quote from: andy41 on January 14, 2023, 01:34:16 AMI'm starting to feel old, I drove that brand new on its first day in service.
So am I Andy, remember I collected 3504 from Derby & emission warning light came on way back.
Into Keltruck next day ! Good start !
3806 ran all the way Birmingham to Tamworth this afternoon with no nearside wing mirror on the 12:10 service. The wing mirror had been placed inside the bus on the front wheel arch where the newspapers are normally put.
According to bus times this was removed from service on arrival at Tamworth.
Quote from: 2206 on February 15, 2023, 04:35:27 PM3806 ran all the way Birmingham to Tamworth this afternoon with no nearside wing mirror on the 12:10 service. The wing mirror had been placed inside the bus on the front wheel arch where the newspapers are normally put.
According to bus times this was removed from service on arrival at Tamworth.
It must've been the day for it today. I had to stop multiple times to readjust my nearside mirror due to having to throw the vehicle into buses to avoid people driving at me in the middle of the road. Quite a common occurrence on the narrow Shropshire/Welsh roads.
I'm guessing however that they probably *shouldn't have* done that journey without a mirror?
2512 was in use at Tamworth on Friday, on service 786
Heard a rumour today that Arriva Tamworth has been purchased by First I don't know if there's any truth in this could anyone clarify?
Quote from: hlliwmai on September 14, 2023, 01:58:11 PMHeard a rumour today that Arriva Tamworth has been purchased by First I don't know if there's any truth in this could anyone clarify?
Must be April 1st...
Quote from: hlliwmai on September 14, 2023, 01:58:11 PMHeard a rumour today that Arriva Tamworth has been purchased by First I don't know if there's any truth in this could anyone clarify?
First Group were interested in purchasing parts of Arriva Group back in April, which is currently up for sale by DB, not seen anything in the press since. First Groups Chairman is the former CEO of Arriva Group.
https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/firstgroup-i-squared-weigh-competing-bids-arriva-sources-2023-04-20/
https://www.proactiveinvestors.co.uk/companies/news/1012890/firstgroup-eyeing-bid-for-parts-of-arriva-as-german-owner-plans-sale-1012890.html
Looks like the 110 is mainly running pulsars this morning with the usual 3 and the ex manny sapphire pulsar with only 3 e400s on.
Where are all the other E400 s then ?
What's happened to Streetdeck 4600 ?
Quote from: Vulcan on November 17, 2023, 08:13:50 AMWhere are all the other E400 s then ?
What's happened to Streetdeck 4600 ?
4407 has been doing the 3/2 for nearly all of the last two weeks
The streetdeck seems to have been VOR since march seeing its a early streetdeck it probably has some major issue
Guessing the rest are coming on later since the frequency goes up after 8am
Just seen former Wythenshawe Enviro 300 CX58EVN (2741) on the 786. On bustimes.org it's tracking as 4600
Cheers ... Richard
Quote from: Wibble on November 23, 2023, 03:21:52 PMJust seen former Wythenshawe Enviro 300 CX58EVN (2741) on the 786. On bustimes.org it's tracking as 4600
Cheers ... Richard
is it Euro 6 compliant?
Could we see it on the 110 at some point?
Quote from: spacecowboy150 on November 23, 2023, 07:07:27 PMis it Euro 6 compliant?
Could we see it on the 110 at some point?
It is indeed so it's allowed on the 110.
Quote from: Jack on November 23, 2023, 07:29:55 PMIt is indeed so it's allowed on the 110.
was on 3805 earlier on the 110 and these ex manchester sapphires could really be used on the 110 seeing what condition that one was in compared to being on MX09 EKR the day before that.
Quote from: Jack on November 23, 2023, 07:29:55 PMIt is indeed so it's allowed on the 110.
Lovely, we finally have E300s back in Brum (kinda)
Quote from: EK40 on November 23, 2023, 08:48:07 PMwas on 3805 earlier on the 110 and these ex manchester sapphires could really be used on the 110 seeing what condition that one was in compared to being on MX09 EKR the day before that.
Be nice to see if 4600 will ever return.
When was the last time it was used in service, NX can't seem to keep their 5 in regularly service either, parts issues I guess.
Quote from: Mayfield on November 24, 2023, 09:49:35 AMWhen was the last time it was used in service, NX can't seem to keep their 5 in regularly service either, parts issues I guess.
March iirc so its been our for 9 months almost
Heard it's because of an electrical issue
Quote from: EK40 on November 24, 2023, 09:52:51 AMMarch iirc so its been our for 9 months almost
Heard it's because of an electrical issue
The problem isn't so much as what they are, just when a company has a large fleet of any type of vehicle they tend to sign a 'parts contract' with the manufacturer where you pay so much a month for each vehicle and all parts included are then delivered as soon as possible without invoices or purchase orders. With small batches when you need a part you tend to order them as required and pay through the normal system which takes longer
Big chunk of asset sitting around for 9 months and possibly more not earning an income.
Quote from: Jack on November 24, 2023, 01:48:50 AMBe nice to see if 4600 will ever return.
4600 had a lovely turbo sound but also the lack of it being here means that the 110 has consistently had a SD on it since March.
Will any more E300 get transferred here?
Quote from: spacecowboy150 on November 24, 2023, 04:16:10 PM4600 had a lovely turbo sound but also the lack of it being here means that the 110 has consistently had a SD on it since March.
Will any more E300 get transferred here?
The 110 has had SD consistency for years not just since March.
Quote from: Jack on November 24, 2023, 05:05:59 PMThe 110 has had SD consistency for years not just since March.
yeah but when 4600 was here it was at least possible to cover the PVR of 10 with all deckers. I just don't get why 9 E400s were ordered when 10 were needed. Maybe the frequency was lower back then but from what I can tell SDs still made it onto there often
Quote from: spacecowboy150 on November 25, 2023, 08:38:40 AMyeah but when 4600 was here it was at least possible to cover the PVR of 10 with all deckers. I just don't get why 9 E400s were ordered when 10 were needed. Maybe the frequency was lower back then but from what I can tell SDs still made it onto there often
When the E400s arrived 4200 stayed also being swopped for the troublesome 4600 ( after party at Derby as it left )
When the PVR is for all 10, Saloons have to be substituted to allow routine servicing & MOT preps at times in addition to unscheduled accident or overhaul repairs
Quote from: Wibble on November 23, 2023, 03:21:52 PMJust seen former Wythenshawe Enviro 300 CX58EVN (2741) on the 786. On bustimes.org it's tracking as 4600
Cheers ... Richard
2747, CX58EVW was also here on the 17th November on the pits with 2741, so I assume thats due out soon too
What are they gonna be renumbered to
Ex Wythenshawe 2747 CX58EVW on the 786 today ... no fleet numbers but still branded for the 263
Cheers ... Richard
Quote from: Wibble on November 27, 2023, 03:53:59 PMEx Wythenshawe 2747 CX58EVW on the 786 today ... no fleet numbers but still branded for the 263
Cheers ... Richard
Tracking as 3582 on bustimes
3581 E300 is now tracking as itself but 4600 is also tracking too, both on the 5. am I right theyre just double tracking
Quote from: spacecowboy150 on November 28, 2023, 04:04:10 PM3581 E300 is now tracking as itself but 4600 is also tracking too, both on the 5. am I right theyre just double tracking
Looks like two separate vehicles to me looking at the individual journeys.
Quote from: twbc99 on November 28, 2023, 06:34:00 PMLooks like two separate vehicles to me looking at the individual journeys.
they're both tracking on different routes today
Still 4600 tracks on Tamworth locals so its still broken but its good to know it might be back. for now
Looks like 4600 (the streetdeck) is back out
Seen at the tesco express stop in the city, looks practically brand new now
Quote from: EK40 on December 11, 2023, 12:38:09 PMLooks like 4600 (the streetdeck) is back out
Seen at the tesco express stop in the city, looks practically brand new now
now the 110 has a chance of full decker allocation
still some E400s have been doing 2s and 3s recently, anyone know why?
Quote from: spacecowboy150 on December 11, 2023, 09:11:43 PMnow the 110 has a chance of full decker allocation
still some E400s have been doing 2s and 3s recently, anyone know why?
Whats wrong with the Single Deckers being used on the 110?
Quote from: spacecowboy150 on December 11, 2023, 09:11:43 PMnow the 110 has a chance of full decker allocation
still some E400s have been doing 2s and 3s recently, anyone know why?
Deckers are usually kept on locals if required for repair or maintenance so they can be easy be changed over as a spare become available
Quote from: Jack on December 11, 2023, 10:45:20 PMWhats wrong with the Single Deckers being used on the 110?
not that much as an enthusiast as most of the arriva pulsars are actually decent plus I love an E300. still I see them pretty packed kinda often
Quote from: spacecowboy150 on December 12, 2023, 08:52:31 PMnot that much as an enthusiast as most of the arriva pulsars are actually decent plus I love an E300. still I see them pretty packed kinda often
Plus if they're used on lightly loaded trips it does'nt matter too much,especially if they're heading into Birmingham.
What is the regular type used on the 765/X65 linking Tamworth to Lichfield?
Quote from: markcf83 on December 13, 2023, 02:48:20 PMWhat is the regular type used on the 765/X65 linking Tamworth to Lichfield?
Anything apart from double deckers (although deckers do appear on there sometimes but it is very sporadic) it is mainly single decker operated
Quote from: markcf83 on December 13, 2023, 02:48:20 PMWhat is the regular type used on the 765/X65 linking Tamworth to Lichfield?
Citaros mainly but basically everything else is often on it
Quote from: EK40 on December 13, 2023, 05:40:30 PMCitaros mainly but basically everything else is often on it
I'm most grateful for the answer. Thank you.
Quote from: hlliwmai on December 13, 2023, 03:53:08 PMAnything apart from double deckers (although deckers do appear on there sometimes but it is very sporadic) it is mainly single decker operated
Most grateful for the answer. I asked the question as I'll be in the West Midlands in two weeks for two days. A bit of tidying up some gaps in my various ways.
optare solo 2510/CX57 CYY seems to have operated the 7:40 birmingham/9:10 tamworth service on the 110 before being taken off for enviro 400 4414
shortages be hitting i guess lmao, quite the peaktime duty for a short slimline solo
Quote from: EK40 on December 18, 2023, 10:53:03 PMoptare solo 2510/CX57 CYY seems to have operated the 7:40 birmingham/9:10 tamworth service on the 110 before being taken off for enviro 400 4414
shortages be hitting i guess lmao, quite the peaktime duty for a short slimline solo
is that one even euro 6 compliant?
also it seems some of the scanias have disappeared off the bustimes list
Quote from: spacecowboy150 on December 19, 2023, 08:10:27 PMis that one even euro 6 compliant?
also it seems some of the scanias have disappeared off the bustimes list
That Solo is not compliant for Euro 6 be £50 to pay or bigger fine
How many Scanias left in service at Tamworth now ?
Quote from: Vulcan on December 20, 2023, 09:45:50 AMThat Solo is not compliant for Euro 6 be £50 to pay or bigger fine
How many Scanias left in service at Tamworth now ?
apparently 2 are still in service but i might be wrong
Got lucky with getting a DAF on the 765/X65 yesterday in Lichfield. Very happy with that. For the record it was 3758.
Quote from: markcf83 on December 30, 2023, 06:08:50 PMGot lucky with getting a DAF on the 765/X65 yesterday in Lichfield. Very happy with that. For the record it was 3758.
Was it any good, Ive ridden some of those YJ61s they were slow
Quote from: spacecowboy150 on December 31, 2023, 11:13:39 AMWas it any good, Ive ridden some of those YJ61s they were slow
I didn't ride on it-as I had an NX nBUS ticket. It sounded alright leaving......
3736 has returned to Tamworth with 3737 also now present, both in different versions of Sapphire livery.
110 seems to longer go inside ventura park, instead continuing up fazeley road then riverdrive up to tame drive across the river.
Also seems that once a day in each direction
(7:40 tamworth - brum
14:40 brum - tamworth)
A 110 goes up reddicap hill instead of rectory road passing good hope normally.
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/changes-to-your-bus-services-in-tamworth-jan-24
Quote from: arrivaService 110
To help keep buses running on time we'll be changing the route around Ventura Park. Buses will run along River Drive and along the A4091 Fazeley Road rather than the centre of Ventura Park where they are often getting caught up in traffic. Customers wishing to travel between Tamworth Town Centre and Ventura Park can use service 2 from Victoria Road which will run every 30 minutes on Monday to Saturday daytimes and every hour on Sundays.
We're working with Staffordshire County Council to provide additional bus stops on Fazeley Road.
At the request of TfWM, students attending John Willmott School will benefit from an extra journey along Reddicap Hill in both directions during school times.
Quote from: ellspurs on January 17, 2024, 04:20:30 PMhttps://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/changes-to-your-bus-services-in-tamworth-jan-24
Ventura Park traffic issues have always been a problem in running the 110 service, been removed to travel on roadway outside before but not generally liked by shoppers carrying bags.
It really needs the entrance / exits improving by the council to speed up the traffic flow.
Arriva's 110 service to receive new electric buses thanks to ZEBRA funding:
https://www.staffordshire.gov.uk/Newsroom/Articles/2024/03-March/Staffordshire-receives-electric-bus-boost-for-county-towns.aspx
We can now look forward to having super slow buses on the 110. This is great(not)
Quote from: Jay71 on March 23, 2024, 10:34:21 AMWe can now look forward to having super slow buses on the 110. This is great(not)
Have you drove an electric bus?
Quote from: Jay71 on March 23, 2024, 10:34:21 AMWe can now look forward to having super slow buses on the 110. This is great(not)
Quote from: Lukeee on March 23, 2024, 03:39:03 PMHave you drove an electric bus?
Or even travelled on one?
They can be quite nippy when they need to be!
Generally drivers are specially trained to drive 'defensively', in order to best maintain battery charge.
Quote from: Jay71 on March 23, 2024, 10:34:21 AMWe can now look forward to having super slow buses on the 110. This is great(not)
What a weird comment, electric buses accelerate faster than most diesels, an electric car would always be at a petrol car in a drag race due to much higher torque. Top speed is what ever you set the limiter at.
Quote from: Stu on March 23, 2024, 04:06:53 PMOr even travelled on one?
They can be quite nippy when they need to be!
Generally drivers are specially trained to drive 'defensively', in order to best maintain battery charge.
Yes, I have travelled on these buses before. Thanks for asking
Quote from: Jay71 on March 23, 2024, 05:13:37 PMYes, I have travelled on these buses before. Thanks for asking
So that makes your post even dafter
Quote from: Tony on March 23, 2024, 05:34:19 PMSo that makes your post even dafter
Tony, you've forgotten one thing. Not everybody wants to have electric buses on all routes.
Your first post was about them being slow which is just complete rubbish
Your new post is just as stupid.
No one cares whether spotters wants them on every route. With the current finances in the industry you'll be lucky to have an buses at all unless operators modernise to attract passengers with cheaper to operate vehicles
Quote from: Jay71 on March 23, 2024, 05:48:45 PMTony, you've forgotten one thing. Not everybody wants to have electric buses on all routes.
Tell that to TfWM then, they're the ones insisting that all buses in the West Midlands should be zero-emission by 2030.
You're just making some baseless claim about electric buses being "super-slow" when they're not.
Quote from: Stu on March 23, 2024, 07:15:50 PMTell that to TfWM then, they're the ones insisting that all buses in the West Midlands should be zero-emission by 2030.
You're just making some baseless claim about electric buses being "super-slow" when they're not.
Stuart, me & you never agree on anything. Fact!
I prefer slow bus that sound good