Today, About up to 20 buses do nothing in garage that waste time including over 15 Double Decker, over 4 single Decker and One Bendy bus! But there are two branded 21 in garage for nothing reason some of 4885-4889 and 6014 (branded 4) still working on the 21.
Buses don't just sit round wasting time doing nothing. A mixture of buses with faults, reduced summer PVR's maybe and buses back from the morning peak.
Quote from: Gareth on July 22, 2013, 03:44:56 PM
Buses don't just sit round wasting time doing nothing. A mixture of buses with faults, reduced summer PVR's maybe and buses back from the morning peak.
Well, I have been spoken to Driver and Driver say" Its reduced Summer PVR's, 13 and 21 has one or two lose PVR's and some peak time lose".
Quote from: 6013 on July 22, 2013, 05:49:26 PM
Quote from: Gareth on July 22, 2013, 03:44:56 PM
Buses don't just sit round wasting time doing nothing. A mixture of buses with faults, reduced summer PVR's maybe and buses back from the morning peak.
Well, I have been spoken to Driver and Driver say" Its reduced Summer PVR's, 13 and 21 has one or two lose PVR's and some peak time lose".
I still have a lack of understanding of your posts!!
Shame! 8 - 10 vehicle of 4415-4424 has red stick on window in front garage and has out of the road and feel like withdrawn!
I think 4415-4424 will not service in Summer Holiday only but I aware there are enough other buses spare in garage.
6013, please enlighten me as to what a 'red stick-on window' is.
Quote from: The Retiring Rat on July 23, 2013, 10:07:56 PM
6013, please enlighten me as to what a 'red stick-on window' is.
Hi Rat, I presume he means the vehicle defective windscreen stickers
Quote from: Tony on July 23, 2013, 10:10:37 PM
Quote from: The Retiring Rat on July 23, 2013, 10:07:56 PM
6013, please enlighten me as to what a 'red stick-on window' is.
Hi Rat, I presume he means the vehicle defective windscreen stickers
Ahh, red sticker in the window.
Makes sense now. My old brain can't work out 6013's pidjin English posts
Thanks tony ;)
Quote from: The Retiring Rat on July 24, 2013, 10:50:46 AM
Quote from: 6013 on July 24, 2013, 10:44:23 AM
Quote from: The Retiring Rat on July 23, 2013, 10:17:03 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 23, 2013, 10:10:37 PM
Quote from: The Retiring Rat on July 23, 2013, 10:07:56 PM
6013, please enlighten me as to what a 'red stick-on window' is.
Hi Rat, I presume he means the vehicle defective windscreen stickers
Ahh, red sticker in the window.
Makes sense now. My old brain can't work out 6013's pidjin English posts
Thanks tony ;)
Shut up Rat!! I can't see information on red stick because it too far from outside gate! Idoit!
Who the hell do you think you're talking to? Why don't you shut up and read an English dictionary.
What the heck is a red stick? Its called a sticker. Your posts are pointless as no one can understand you anyway.
You're worse then some of the passengers, gah!
And who are you calling an idiot? I'm highly educated - unlike some!
You should be suspended for that above comment.
Dear Rats, I CAN'T SEE READING ON RED STICK! I THINK RED STICK MEANS FOR NOT USE FOR SERVICE! ANYWAY BACK ON TOPIC!!!!
"only talk me for Single Decker and Bendy buses"
So what's this about getting back on topic, anyway?
As I've said before, it comes to something when someone calls you an 'idoit' with no sense of irony!
What's wrong with double deckers ?
Quote from: Andrew on July 24, 2013, 04:47:40 PM
What's wrong with double deckers ?
6013 is not a fan, clearly. I'm not sure I wish to know the reasons, that's if I can make head or tail of them.
Next week, I think Scanias will be very very very last day on service in any coventry routes. :'(
Coventry garage got three Scanias is 1863 1864, and 1872!
I can't understand coventry engineering didn't know about 2163 still fail with side display. Side display doesn't not working on show for over three weeks!
Awww! Finally 4217 past the 4218 in Bus station! They are brother of 4217 and 4218!
Look at picture of 4217 and 4218! :-
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rebrand_coventry_buses/9184418207/in/faves-john-s-91/
Quote from: 6013 on July 25, 2013, 01:34:12 PM
Next week, I think Scanias will be very very very last day on service in any coventry routes. :'(
Forgive me for not paying attention, but are Coventry transferring out ALL of their Scanias?
Quote from: N94 on July 27, 2013, 11:54:13 PM
Quote from: 6013 on July 25, 2013, 01:34:12 PM
Next week, I think Scanias will be very very very last day on service in any coventry routes. :'(
Forgive me for not paying attention, but are Coventry transferring out ALL of their Scanias?
Is that due to the new B7RLE's?
Quote from: Liverpool Street on July 27, 2013, 11:56:37 PM
Quote from: N94 on July 27, 2013, 11:54:13 PM
Quote from: 6013 on July 25, 2013, 01:34:12 PM
Next week, I think Scanias will be very very very last day on service in any coventry routes. :'(
Forgive me for not paying attention, but are Coventry transferring out ALL of their Scanias?
Is that due to the new B7RLE's?
Yes, they are also replacing a few old Travel Coventry liveried O405Ns as well
1678 on the 6/6A at today and 4693 replaced.
Some changes to 8(a), 9(a), 27 and 900(a) from 1st September:
http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/bus/servicechanges/ServiceChangesPages/01September13.aspx
A Centro press release about the recent new vehicles:
http://www.centro.org.uk/newsroom/PressReleases/PressRelease66305.aspx
So the 33 new Cov buses are part of the 300 vehicle investment??
Is that correct?
Quote from: Wolves256 on August 05, 2013, 11:13:43 PM
So the 33 new Cov buses are part of the 300 vehicle investment??
Is that correct?
No i think it was part of this years orders
That's what I thought .
Someone from NX please confirm
Quote from: Wolves256 on August 05, 2013, 11:38:35 PM
That's what I thought .
Someone from NX please confirm
The remaining 26 E400's are where the orders for 300 new buses start from
Winston
The 26 x E400 as part of the 300 odrer was confirmed on this site
However this not what the Centro website is saying fro yesterdays anouncement in Coventry
Quote from: Wolves256 on August 06, 2013, 01:46:00 PM
Winston
The 26 x E400 as part of the 300 odrer was confirmed on this site
That's exactly what my reply said, the 300 new buses due start from the remaining batch of 26 x E400's (i.e 4914 onwards are included in the 300)
Quote from: Winston on August 06, 2013, 02:02:53 PM
Quote from: Wolves256 on August 06, 2013, 01:46:00 PM
Winston
The 26 x E400 as part of the 300 odrer was confirmed on this site
That's exactly what my reply said, the 300 new buses due start from the remaining batch of 26 x E400's (i.e 4914 onwards are included in the 300)
Hi guys you could ask the operations director see if he can confirm what is actually part of the 300 specified?
He did say he would be back on the 7th worth a try he may be able to provide the answers you req.
Quote from: pb2012 on August 06, 2013, 07:20:38 PM
Quote from: Winston on August 06, 2013, 02:02:53 PM
Quote from: Wolves256 on August 06, 2013, 01:46:00 PM
Winston
The 26 x E400 as part of the 300 odrer was confirmed on this site
That's exactly what my reply said, the 300 new buses due start from the remaining batch of 26 x E400's (i.e 4914 onwards are included in the 300)
Hi guys you could ask the operations director see if he can confirm what is actually part of the 300 specified?
He did say he would be back on the 7th worth a try he may be able to provide the answers you req.
The question has already been asked & answered, the remaining 26 x E400 are the first from the 300 new buses due to be delivered and are due before the end of this year
Quote from: Winston on August 06, 2013, 07:25:58 PM
Quote from: pb2012 on August 06, 2013, 07:20:38 PM
Quote from: Winston on August 06, 2013, 02:02:53 PM
Quote from: Wolves256 on August 06, 2013, 01:46:00 PM
Winston
The 26 x E400 as part of the 300 odrer was confirmed on this site
That's exactly what my reply said, the 300 new buses due start from the remaining batch of 26 x E400's (i.e 4914 onwards are included in the 300)
Then centro must have got there wires crossed somewhere if there saying the 33 cov received are part of this order?
Hi guys you could ask the operations director see if he can confirm what is actually part of the 300 specified?
He did say he would be back on the 7th worth a try he may be able to provide the answers you req.
The question has already been asked & answered, the remaining 26 x E400 are the first from the 300 new buses due to be delivered and are due before the end of this year
PD0001111/133 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Coventry, Pool Meadow Bus Station and Warwickshire, Leamington Spa, Gainsborough Drive given service number C12/C11/C11X effective from 30-Sep-2013. To amend Route, Stopping Places and Timetable.
Thanks for passing that on, Winston: very intriguing!
As per most other years an alteration to the 11/12 service and or timetable for the start of University term time would be expected, hopefully the route change isn't going to be something major, might just be the 11X journey to operate as an 11, or maybe something to do with the long term roadworks at Leamington High Street.
On another subject and I'm surprised 6013 hasn't yet mentioned... Service 20A will extend during Mon-Sat daytimes via Henley Road to University Hospital Walsgrave starting Monday 2nd September (the extension generally follows De Courcey's 778 route), there has been a few ongoing moans around the Henley Road area since service 33 was withdrawn. It is hopefully an excuse for keeping hold of 2153 ;D
Quote from: JPC on August 11, 2013, 11:51:39 AM
As per most other years an alteration to the 11/12 service and or timetable for the start of University term time would be expected, hopefully the route change isn't going to be something major, might just be the 11X journey to operate as an 11, or maybe something to do with the long term roadworks at Leamington High Street.
On another subject and I'm surprised 6013 hasn't yet mentioned... Service 20A will extend during Mon-Sat daytimes via Henley Road to University Hospital Walsgrave starting Monday 2nd September (the extension generally follows De Courcey's 778 route), there has been a few ongoing moans around the Henley Road area since service 33 was withdrawn. It is hopefully an excuse for keeping hold of 2153 ;D
Back on UK! I am aware of 20A extend to University Hospital by Centro. That will running between 06:30am till 18:30!
2153 has gone for paint into blue! And the 11 route is changing.
Quote from: Beano2211 on August 11, 2013, 09:38:28 PM
2153 has gone for paint into blue! And the 11 route is changing.
Wanted that at Pensnett :(
20A extend to somewhere.....Ooooo
20A will extend to University Hospital via Bell Green Riley Square, Henley Rd, and Woodway Lane with Every 30min Monday till Saturday between 06:30 18:30.
Make sure correct which on catch on 20A and 20A.
20A- Bell Green; NOT SERVE in University Hospital and Just terminal at Bell Green Riley Square. Serve on Sunday, Mon-Sat from 18:30 till 23:30, 04:30 till 06:30
20A- University; Serve in University Hospital. Serve on Mon to Sat from 06:30 to 18:30 but NOT SERVE on Sunday!
From City Centre to Foleshill Rd to past Arena Retail Park to Bell Green to Henley Rd to University Hospital
From University Hospital to Henley Rd to Bell Green (Terminal) to past Arena Retail Park to Foleshill Rd to City Centre.
*2153 need at CV reason 20's will extra buses from 1st September. So Only Two Spare B7RLE will displace onto 20's route for extra buses. I think One or Two B7RLE still spare and will running on the 1 so that If 9/A B7RLE breakdown that will take mercs or Double decker can on the 9/9A. If 20's B7RLE breakdown that will take mercs only NOT Double Decker!
See NXC's Facebook page for the new Pool Meadow stand allocations being brought in soon.
In my opinion, they seem very scatty, and much of the symmetry and intuition of the previous layout has been lost.
The use of Bendybuses on the 4 restricts the stands they use.
T,U and V are being used for Walsgrave bound routes.
S is used for Little Heath meaning buses only nip in.
R is presumably for the 85/585 to the station.
Q for NXC to station. Inside stands wasted on turn up and go bus services following waste of stand V.
P for 12 which goes past the station.
N for Bendybus 4 towards Arena
M for Holyhead Road services 23 and 900 but nowhere near 7 which also goes to Allesley Village
L for 10 towards Eastern Green via Spon End
K for 6/A towards Tile Hill via Spon End in same direction
J for 18/A towards Canley also via Spon End
H for Coundon 5,7,42
G for 16/A towards Stoke Aldermoor
F for 27 towards London Road presumably with Warwickshire services
E ??
Many of the frequent services that run at night are now on outside stands or alongside the old canteen in the open stands
More passengers will walk across the road to reach the back stands.
The person who created this clearly doesn't travel on cold nights.
My suggestion to NXC/Centro that all routes should use inside stands at night to benefit of passengers especially in winter obviously fell on deaf ears.
I'm not against Bendybuses but they don't help by being restricted to "outside" stands due to their length.
Thanks for the tip off, some new timetables are starting to appear at bus stops.
These two will obviously cause greatest confusion.....
The existing stand K for service 10 towards Bell Green is re-lettered as Stand L and will be for service 10 towards Eastern Green.
The existing stand R for services 6, 6A towards Tanyard Farm is re-lettered as Stand S and will be for services 6, 6A towards Little Heath/Victoria Farm.
The abandoned bus stop in Fairfax Street (former stand V) is probably reserved for when Trinity Street is reduced to four stands, most likely for services 2, 3 and 21 towards Cheylesmore.
So, an extra stand has been created and NX services are being shifted round. So presumably in time there will be more services moved in, either from NX or other operators. Otherwise what was the point of all this!?
Obtained Centro photocopy of revised stands today filling in info not on NX Cov site.
R will not be used at all :o so 85/585 won't stop in Pool Meadow towards Station.
P also used by 11 to Leamington
J also served by 5 towards Earlsdon and Tile Hill South
F is used by 27/A, 30 Lentons Lane, 87 Balsall Common, 735 Ansley
E is used by 41,47, Warks routes 539 and 580 together with 82 as now.
D is used by 74 to Nuneaton and also X6 as now.
When I spoke to council a while ago they wanted to install a zebra crossing where stand V was and remove existing traffic light crossing but that may have changed.
NXC bosses said they didn't like using stand V after I commented it made an ideal turn up and go stop to the station especially if you scheduled meal reliefs only in the other direction, so I think its unlikely JPCs suggestion for route 2,21 will happen.
Like D10 I can't see the point of much of the changes other than eastbound services drive straight through, but to the inconvenience of passengers more of whom will walk across the bus lane to reach the back stands.
We are presumably getting the totem stops in central Coventry hopefully with more substantial bus shelters than in Birmingham.
OK JoNi, maybe it's stand R which is reserved rather than the Fairfax Street lay by, however the current 7 minutes slack time on services 2 and 3 is too long for being parked in Pool Meadow.
The council says Trinity Street work starts 2nd September for 33 weeks :o plans show a zebra crossing for the start of Trinity Street, so I guess you are right regarding another zebra crossing in Fairfax Street to complement this one.
The red squares planned for Fairfax/Priory Street and Corporation/Upper Well Street seem to be put on hold ::).
Hi JPC the Centro leaflet also has all the other stops in the Trinity Street, Burges and Hales Street which are unchanged.
Is there a controflow cycle lane in Trinity Street to reflect the way cyclist actual ride their bikes ::)
I appreciate what you say about the 2 and 3 but I live on the routes and had to put up with dismal service which resulted from the previous 2,3,3A timetable.
The layover is handy for passengers coming out of Sainsburys can nip on the bus outside rather than having to trudge into Pool Meadow.
There is nothing worse than watching a bus go past in a road where it doesn't stop due to failure to appreciate citizens travelling needs.
Notices have gone up at all the stops in Pool Meadow saying where the existing buses are being moved to with an apology for the inconvenience ::)
Quote from: Beano2211 on August 11, 2013, 09:38:28 PM
2153 has gone for paint into blue! And the 11 route is changing.
Will this be Unbranded or Branded ?
Quote from: Nathan on August 24, 2013, 07:29:18 PM
Quote from: Beano2211 on August 11, 2013, 09:38:28 PM
2153 has gone for paint into blue! And the 11 route is changing.
Will this be Unbranded or Branded ?
I would think it would remain unbranded
20A extension to Walsgrave Hospital presumably needs an extra bus, but like John I doubt 2153 will be branded.
Went round the Council House to have a look at plans for the new proper zebra crossing in Trinity Street which had been advertised on notices on lampposts.
They are going to plonk it between the 2/3 and 21 stand and the Whittle Arch in a short length of road which now has 20 mile per markings on it.
No effect on bus stops.
Taxis normally pick up people here who come out of Sainsbury's and wave them over.
Saw new
University Hospital
via Foleshill and Bell Green 20A
display for extension starting next Monday on B7 this morning!
Hope to have flickr account set up soon, as the 20A was obviously bigger than shown above.
2153 back from refurb...
Quote from: nx4737 on August 31, 2013, 05:06:01 PM
2153 back from refurb...
Wonder if this is the youngest ever bus to get a refurb.
Without seeing it I'm guessing its just had a retrim, not a refurb as such.
Only seen inside while passing on another bus. The original flat topped seat handrails remain with new grey seats. The bus also had more bell pushes at the front than NX B7s.
Quote from: JoNi on September 01, 2013, 10:22:39 AM
Only seen inside while passing on another bus. The original flat topped seat handrails remain with new grey seats. The bus also had more bell pushes at the front than NX B7s.
Shame about the seats as in my opinion, this bus previously had arguably the comfiest seats in the fleet!
Quote from: D10 on September 01, 2013, 11:00:59 AM
Quote from: JoNi on September 01, 2013, 10:22:39 AM
Only seen inside while passing on another bus. The original flat topped seat handrails remain with new grey seats. The bus also had more bell pushes at the front than NX B7s.
Shame about the seats as in my opinion, this bus previously had arguably the comfiest seats in the fleet!
Still has those seats, just retrimmed.
Centro made a total pigs ear of todays change round of stands in Pool Meadow
The two Supervisor's did a sterling job much against the odds, the leaflet of revised stands and displays at stops were made by one of Supervisors on his own initiative, full marks. The only thanks they got originally was to be expected to come in this weekend in their own time >:(
As of lunchtime there were no official were to catch your bus notices and the RTl was still displayed at previous stand positions.
People wandered about in the bus lanes especially as buses to University Hospital now go from the stands at the back.
The 900 also moved next to the old canteen but lost passengers wandered over and stood in the bus lanes by 900 branded Jennifer or one of her sisters wondering where she went from.
lf l bump into a Centro manager tomorrow l will pass on a sound piece of Health and Safety advice l was once given
"lf you see something that's unsafe don't just sit on your arse get up and do something about it before an accident happens"
Quote from: nx4737 on September 01, 2013, 01:33:20 PM
Quote from: D10 on September 01, 2013, 11:00:59 AM
Quote from: JoNi on September 01, 2013, 10:22:39 AM
Only seen inside while passing on another bus. The original flat topped seat handrails remain with new grey seats. The bus also had more bell pushes at the front than NX B7s.
Shame about the seats as in my opinion, this bus previously had arguably the comfiest seats in the fleet!
Still has those seats, just retrimmed.
Photo of 2153 here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/je1791/9641794511/in/photostream/
This one has also retained the black headlight/Wrightbus logo on the front the same as 2030 & 2031 which went to Dundee, looks much better......
Tbh the Coventry blue livery looks smarter than the red NXWM livery, especially the darker red that's on the ex Coventry Scanias
NXC confirms service changes starting 30/09/2013....
- Extension of service 11 in Leamington to Tachbrook Road.
??? Unsure how far this'll go/how it will turn around, it doesn't sound like it's going to be the same Sydenham loop as per service 12 a few years back.
- The late night 11X journey is to run six nights a week rather than three.
The 11 will go via Clemens St, Brunswick St, St Helen's Rd then back down Tachbrook Rd when the roadworks on the High St have finished.
VOSA is suggesting a route change on NXC services 5 and 6/6A from 27 October... Let me guess....
Only affecting westbound journeys in the Tile Hill direction.
Service 5 adjusted to take the current 6/6A route between Dolomite Avenue/Tile Hill Lane roundabout and Herald Avenue (Sainsbury's).
Service 6/6A therefore short cuts through Herald Avenue.
A [confusing but logical?] tweak creating relevant provision of service and a significant mileage saving and timekeeping help for service 6/6A.
In fact extending the evening and Sunday service 5 journeys from Canley Road to Sainsbury's [plenty of spare time to do so] might be a beneficial link.
Quote from: JPC on September 06, 2013, 06:31:09 PM
VOSA is suggesting a route change on NXC services 5 and 6/6A from 27 October... Let me guess....
Only affecting westbound journeys in the Tile Hill direction.
Service 5 adjusted to take the current 6/6A route between Dolomite Avenue/Tile Hill Lane roundabout and Herald Avenue (Sainsbury's).
Service 6/6A therefore short cuts through Herald Avenue.
A [confusing but logical?] tweak creating relevant provision of service and a significant mileage saving and timekeeping help for service 6/6A.
In fact extending the evening and Sunday service 5 journeys from Canley Road to Sainsbury's [plenty of spare time to do so] might be a beneficial link.
PD0001111/145 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Variation Accepted: Operating between
Keresley Village and
Little Heath given service number 6/6A/6S effective from 27-Oct-2013. To amend Route.
PD0001111/400 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Coventry, Pool Meadow, Overslade Crescent and Coventry, Canley, Cannon Park Shopping Centre given service number 5 effective from 27-Oct-2013. To amend Route.
Quote from: Sivan on September 06, 2013, 08:44:54 PM
Quote from: JPC on September 06, 2013, 06:31:09 PM
VOSA is suggesting a route change on NXC services 5 and 6/6A from 27 October... Let me guess....
Only affecting westbound journeys in the Tile Hill direction.
Service 5 adjusted to take the current 6/6A route between Dolomite Avenue/Tile Hill Lane roundabout and Herald Avenue (Sainsbury's).
Service 6/6A therefore short cuts through Herald Avenue.
A [confusing but logical?] tweak creating relevant provision of service and a significant mileage saving and timekeeping help for service 6/6A.
In fact extending the evening and Sunday service 5 journeys from Canley Road to Sainsbury's [plenty of spare time to do so] might be a beneficial link.
PD0001111/145 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Keresley Village and Little Heath given service number 6/6A/6S effective from 27-Oct-2013. To amend Route.
PD0001111/400 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Coventry, Pool Meadow, Overslade Crescent and Coventry, Canley, Cannon Park Shopping Centre given service number 5 effective from 27-Oct-2013. To amend Route.
The Keresley reference is probably a red herring. Registration number PD0001111/145 is a longstanding reg number. It seems as though the Little Heath route has run under this reg since it was the old 36 route which did serve Keresley. It was amended to Route number 6 in the 2012 Network Review and started running to Tile Hill. Anyone able to confirm this?
Quote from: D10 on September 06, 2013, 09:28:29 PM
Quote from: Sivan on September 06, 2013, 08:44:54 PM
PD0001111/145 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Keresley Village and Little Heath given service number 6/6A/6S effective from 27-Oct-2013. To amend Route.
PD0001111/400 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Coventry, Pool Meadow, Overslade Crescent and Coventry, Canley, Cannon Park Shopping Centre given service number 5 effective from 27-Oct-2013. To amend Route.
The Keresley reference is probably a red herring. Registration number PD0001111/145 is a longstanding reg number. It seems as though the Little Heath route has run under this reg since it was the old 36 route which did serve Keresley. It was amended to Route number 6 in the 2012 Network Review and started running to Tile Hill. Anyone able to confirm this?
Yeah, the destinations points within VOSA registrations often don't get updated so we have to ignore them sometimes,
these were obviously registrations for old services 36 and 42 and have been recycled into current services 6/6A and 5.
The route changes must be minor as it doesn't say any change to timetable.
Quote from: Beano2211 on September 04, 2013, 09:30:44 AM
The 11 will go via Clemens St, Brunswick St, St Helen's Rd then back down Tachbrook Rd when the roadworks on the High St have finished.
Thanks for this.
It's a shame that NXC hasn't made a formal announcement about this as Warwick students who live in Leamington will be choosing which company's pass to buy around now, and won't know about this change which could potentially bring more customers to NXC.
They have mentioned the route extension on their Facebook page but yes totally agree about the lack of publicity.
So is there a reason behind the route change? Is the extension possibly only happening because of complaints about service 11 buses being parked up in the Town Centre for significant periods of time? The new timetable generally has the same timings which means buses are having to do the extension in place of slack time at Leamington which will likely result in a less reliable service and instances of late running buses terminating short/turning around as per old route.
My take on it is that NXC thought the 11 was getting far too reliable, so had a think how they could make it more unreliable again :D
Only joking.
But it does seem like a heck of an extension, and I'm sure there are places closer to the centre of the town to park up if that's the aim.
So I'm guessing they're doing it with the intention of picking up more custom.
Quote from: Valandil on September 23, 2013, 08:33:32 PM
My take on it is that NXC thought the 11 was getting far too reliable, so had a think how they could make it more unreliable again :D
Only joking.
But it does seem like a heck of an extension, and I'm sure there are places closer to the centre of the town to park up if that's the aim.
So I'm guessing they're doing it with the intention of picking up more custom.
Well now it's got roadworks on Herald Ave (not sure how long these will last) and a diversion in Leamington Spa (about 8 weeks) itself to deal with too.
So yes, this is now pretty much guaranteed unreliability!
The slightest thing can knock NXC's timetables because, compared with other companies, they just don't provide the same flexibility in their schedules.
Roadworks are also planned at Coventry ring road Junction 6 (Friargate project) starting in January for at least 18 months, ;D unsure if this will involve any diversions.
There seem to be a few minor inconsistencies in the new 11 timetable:
http://nxbus.co.uk/files/NXCoventry/current_timetables/C011_30Sep13.pdf
http://nxbus.co.uk/files/NXCoventry/current_timetables/TT_C11_12_30092013_Email.pdf
The MF 0916 from Leamington Tachbrook Road is shown as omitting the second timing point on one of the above, but not the other.
And on both of these the Saturday times towards Coventry are a bit weird!
(E.g. buses arrive at Hearsall Common at 35, 48, 05 and 20 minutes past the hour.)
Quote from: Valandil on September 28, 2013, 07:50:07 AM
So yes, this is now pretty much guaranteed unreliability!
The slightest thing can knock NXC's timetables because, compared with other companies, they just don't provide the same flexibility in their schedules.
Which other companies are you referring to that provide 'flexibility'?
The small competitors in the West Midlands run to tighter timetables than NX. Arriva/First certainly don't give there timetables any slack
Quote from: Valandil on September 29, 2013, 10:20:33 AM
There seem to be a few minor inconsistencies in the new 11 timetable:
http://nxbus.co.uk/files/NXCoventry/current_timetables/C011_30Sep13.pdf
http://nxbus.co.uk/files/NXCoventry/current_timetables/TT_C11_12_30092013_Email.pdf
The MF 0916 from Leamington Tachbrook Road is shown as omitting the second timing point on one of the above, but not the other.
And on both of these the Saturday times towards Coventry are a bit weird!
(E.g. buses arrive at Hearsall Common at 35, 48, 05 and 20 minutes past the hour.)
Yes, I had notified NXC about some of these errors hence their website now linking to the hardly any better Centro version of the timetable, which also includes the likely expired University Holiday version of the timetable under the old route.
On the very same MF 0916 journey the timings for Hearsall Common and onwards are meant to be 10 minute earlier than shown. ::)
That University Security office timing point for some service 12 journeys is also a bit strange, Outbound timings rarely seem to match up with Inbound, Sunday daytimes being a good example, unless the buses are going around the loop twice?
Quote from: Tony on September 29, 2013, 10:55:58 AM
Quote from: Valandil on September 28, 2013, 07:50:07 AM
So yes, this is now pretty much guaranteed unreliability!
The slightest thing can knock NXC's timetables because, compared with other companies, they just don't provide the same flexibility in their schedules.
Which other companies are you referring to that provide 'flexibility'?
The small competitors in the West Midlands run to tighter timetables than NX. Arriva/First certainly don't give there timetables any slack
Not being overly familiar with the West Midlands, I am not too sure about this area.
(Though WMSNT's service 1 was very good and had loads of stand time, until NX took it over when (coincidentally I'm sure) Centro modified the route and reduced this time heavily.)
However, up North, it just seems to be standard practice for there to be appropriate recovery time built into the timetable.
For example, Wigan Road in Warrington sometimes becomes gridlocked if there is an accident on one of the nearby motorways.
Arriva's 329 is allocated 12 minutes' recovery time in Warrington to account for this, and their 360 gets 10 minutes.
This is generally enough to cope with such times, and of course provides excellent reliability and punctuality on almost every journey -- something which, surprisingly enough, passengers really value.
If what you say is true and all of Arriva's services have 0 minutes' time between each run, then it sounds like Arriva is much less realistic down here, and they are even worse than National Express for providing a service which can actually function in accordance with the schedule on every journey of every day.
Funnily enough, I once did a 110 from Tamworth to Birmingham, and not only did it depart Tamworth a few minutes late, but it also became further and further behind over the journey, arriving in Birmingham something like 20 minutes late.
And this was on a Sunday with there being no major incidents or the like en route.
This is of course a one-journey experience, but put it this way, I have never tried to make that journey by bus again.
I suppose that, whatever the case though, surely no company can beat Megabus's insanely tight timetables which require flat-out running and pretty much no opportunity to recover lost time whatsoever.
It's just foolish, and has cost them a bob or two in compensatory tickets to me for journeys running unacceptably late and getting further and further behind as time went on.
Put it this way, many international students at Warwick University are very unimpressed with public transport in England, based on what they have seen around here.
Some have said to me that transport companies in their home countries face huge fines (and public criticism) if there is late running, even by just a couple of minutes: it is almost an unspeakable event.
Whereas around here, you get to the bus stop knowing that anything could happen.
Anyway, I shall be watching the changes to the 11 closely, and we shall see what happens.
Quote from: Valandil on September 29, 2013, 09:11:44 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 29, 2013, 10:55:58 AM
Quote from: Valandil on September 28, 2013, 07:50:07 AM
So yes, this is now pretty much guaranteed unreliability!
The slightest thing can knock NXC's timetables because, compared with other companies, they just don't provide the same flexibility in their schedules.
Which other companies are you referring to that provide 'flexibility'?
The small competitors in the West Midlands run to tighter timetables than NX. Arriva/First certainly don't give there timetables any slack
Not being overly familiar with the West Midlands, I am not too sure about this area.
(Though WMSNT's service 1 was very good and had loads of stand time, until NX took it over when (coincidentally I'm sure) Centro modified the route and reduced this time heavily.)
However, up North, it just seems to be standard practice for there to be appropriate recovery time built into the timetable.
For example, Wigan Road in Warrington sometimes becomes gridlocked if there is an accident on one of the nearby motorways.
Arriva's 329 is allocated 12 minutes' recovery time in Warrington to account for this, and their 360 gets 10 minutes.
This is generally enough to cope with such times, and of course provides excellent reliability and punctuality on almost every journey -- something which, surprisingly enough, passengers really value.
If what you say is true and all of Arriva's services have 0 minutes' time between each run, then it sounds like Arriva is much less realistic down here, and they are even worse than National Express for providing a service which can actually function in accordance with the schedule on every journey of every day.
Funnily enough, I once did a 110 from Tamworth to Birmingham, and not only did it depart Tamworth a few minutes late, but it also became further and further behind over the journey, arriving in Birmingham something like 20 minutes late.
And this was on a Sunday with there being no major incidents or the like en route.
This is of course a one-journey experience, but put it this way, I have never tried to make that journey by bus again.
I suppose that, whatever the case though, surely no company can beat Megabus's insanely tight timetables which require flat-out running and pretty much no opportunity to recover lost time whatsoever.
It's just foolish, and has cost them a bob or two in compensatory tickets to me for journeys running unacceptably late and getting further and further behind as time went on.
Put it this way, many international students at Warwick University are very unimpressed with public transport in England, based on what they have seen around here.
Some have said to me that transport companies in their home countries face huge fines (and public criticism) if there is late running, even by just a couple of minutes: it is almost an unspeakable event.
Whereas around here, you get to the bus stop knowing that anything could happen.
Anyway, I shall be watching the changes to the 11 closely, and we shall see what happens.
You quote 12/10 minutes layover time as good. A Lot of NXWM routes get more than that! The 14 for example gets about 12 minutes on each trip during the day and 25 minutes in the peak at Chelmsley Wood. Most other routes I drove at BC had similar times.
Quote from: JPC on September 29, 2013, 02:22:24 PMYes, I had notified NXC about some of these errors hence their website now linking to the hardly any better Centro version of the timetable, which also includes the likely expired University Holiday version of the timetable under the old route.
On the very same MF 0916 journey the timings for Hearsall Common and onwards are meant to be 10 minute earlier than shown. ::)
That University Security office timing point for some service 12 journeys is also a bit strange, Outbound timings rarely seem to match up with Inbound, Sunday daytimes being a good example, unless the buses are going around the loop twice?
Some progress there at least! :)
I do hope that drivers observe the loop twice.
I know that some students do not bother with the unversity bus stop by the Digital Laboratory and engineering buildings, walking across campus to the Arts Centre stop instead, because reliability is (understandably) better there.
(Though this also seems to be in part because they see buses displaying 'Not in Service' go past the engineering stop, which then go and park up at the Arts Centre bus stop, which in many cases is what the timetable intends.)
Quote from: Tony on September 29, 2013, 09:21:41 PMYou quote 12/10 minutes layover time as good. A Lot of NXWM routes get more than that! The 14 for example gets about 12 minutes on each trip during the day and 25 minutes in the peak at Chelmsley Wood. Most other routes I drove at BC had similar times.
The times you quote sound very good on the face of it (though I am not familiar with the route of the 14).
It seems to me that the timetables are much more realistic and accommodating in Birmingham than in Coventry, in general.
I might try and mooch around for some reliability statistics, as it would be interesting to know how Coventry and Birmingham depots compare.
Actually, there is a good one: the 900 seems to be good at departing Coventry on time, due to stand time, but very often departs Birmingham late in my experience, as there is very little at that end.
This route demonstrates perhaps a reversal of fortunes!
All I'm saying is ... so far, oh dear!
I have not been around all day, but I have just walked around campus and between 1853 and 1858 I saw THREE 11's towards Coventry (I can only assume that these were the 1816, 1831 and 1846 as timed from the Security Gatehouse), plus one 12 displaying Coventry so must have been the 1823, or else had the destination set incorrectly -- it should have been on NIS/Setting Down Only if it was the 1906.
I also had a brief stint here before and noted an 11 towards Coventry and a 12 arriving together at 1520 (I assume these were the 1506 and 1521), with the 11 departing at 1522 and the 12 at 1524.
And the 11 towards Leamington meant to be there at 1521 also came at 1533 and departed at 1535; this was also still showing 'Leamington Spa // High Street' instead of 'Tachbrook Road' (or 'Tatchbrook Road' according to some parts of the timetable :P).
It is early days, but I think that this is par for the course.
Though I imagine that Stagecoach is happy: the 16 towards Coventry seemed to get quite a bit of custom when the 11 meant to be there at 1506 didn't show up until it was 'too late' for some.
I was only around for a short time in the middle of the day today, but while I was there I noted that some may have thought that the 11 was departing early because it was in fact nearly 30 minutes late (departed Rootes Bus Stop at 1332 instead of 1306).
(There was no sign of the 11 in the other direction due at 1321 so I am not sure how late that was.)
The 12's don't seem to be as bad from what I have seen so far though, with the one I saw earlier running only 4 minutes late.
EDIT: Just reading Route One (http://www.route-one.net/issues/507/index.html#/4/) and the 97(A) is mentioned as the key example of unreliability due to too little layover: "Inadequate recovery time at the end of a journey proved to be a recurrent theme that often had knock-on effects later in the day. For example, minimal layover time of no more than one or two minutes in Birmingham city centre offers no leeway to buses on route 97/97A."
4753 is over at coventry garage been driven in by an engineer
Quote from: Valandil on September 29, 2013, 09:31:01 PM
Actually, there is a good one: the 900 seems to be good at departing Coventry on time, due to stand time, but very often departs Birmingham late in my experience, as there is very little at that end.
This route demonstrates perhaps a reversal of fortunes!
I've noticed over the years the route has been shortened, yet it still can be inconsistent.
-No longer doubles back through Millisons wood when travelling towards Coventry.
I got the bus to the airport a few weeks ago and I'm pretty certain it didn't leave the A45 at Stonebridge Island either. (Towards Birmingham)
Quote from: ben710 on October 03, 2013, 02:50:32 PM
I got the bus to the airport a few weeks ago and I'm pretty certain it didn't leave the A45 at Stonebridge Island either. (Towards Birmingham)
No it doesn't use Stonebridge Island when Birmingham bound
Quote from: Valandil on October 02, 2013, 05:09:48 PM
I was only around for a short time in the middle of the day today, but while I was there I noted that some may have thought that the 11 was departing early because it was in fact nearly 30 minutes late (departed Rootes Bus Stop at 1332 instead of 1306).
(There was no sign of the 11 in the other direction due at 1321 so I am not sure how late that was.)
The 12's don't seem to be as bad from what I have seen so far though, with the one I saw earlier running only 4 minutes late.
EDIT: Just reading Route One (http://www.route-one.net/issues/507/index.html#/4/) and the 97(A) is mentioned as the key example of unreliability due to too little layover: "Inadequate recovery time at the end of a journey proved to be a recurrent theme that often had knock-on effects later in the day. For example, minimal layover time of no more than one or two minutes in Birmingham city centre offers no leeway to buses on route 97/97A."
That survey was done before the Airport extension and the current timetable. It refers to the old 97 and 97A( Bluebell Drive) services.
It refers to the Birmingham end of the route with 1 minute recovery time. What it fails to mention is it was illegal for any Bus in Birmingham to be on a stop for more than one minute due to a by-law that was enforced by the TC!
Since that was repealed and buses can now spend up to 4 minutes on stops in Birmingham City Centre most NXWM routes do have 4 minutes layover in City in the timetable
Interesting situation at the university tonight!
There were 3 number 11's at the Arts Centre bus stop at 22:23: two towards Coventry and one towards Leamington (which had helpfully stopped on the wrong side of the road and was picking up passengers, to the annoyance of the vehicles behind).
Either the additional vehicle was a (much-needed) extra vehicle (all 3 vehicles looked pretty much full), or at least one was an hour behind.
Extra journeys on the 11/12 has not been uncommon for years, especially during night time.
Back to 4-5 years ago when 12 still went to Leamington, there's always a late night 12 for Leamington which arrived at Hearsall Common at 1:15am & this was not listed on the timetable. Yet it had quite heavy loading & seems like many uni students knew about this departure.
That's very interesting!
Quite strange.
From Bus and Coach Buyer: it was announced by Norman Baker at 'Coach and Bus Live' that there are to be 29 buses in the West Midlands with exhaust gas treatment.
Maybe some of these will be in Coventry!
I have been commuting to Warwick University and have found 11/12 to be VERY unreliable, so unreliable it's still late at off-peak periods. Much more buses at peak periods is needed, as these buses are often full even if there's another 2 or so behind the bus. In most of my life, I have been commuting on NXWM buses, I do sometimes find them unreliable but never as unreliable as these buses passing through the university.
I've noticed this unreliability occurs to ALL bus services serving the University, even including the X17 which passes the university close by. In fact, I think only the 87 is reliable.
I would rather to use X17 in the early morning and walk 15 minutes to the university than wait another 5 minutes and hope the 11/12 comes on time (and isn't full).
Quote from: :D on October 10, 2013, 09:17:16 PM
I have been commuting to Warwick University and have found 11/12 to be VERY unreliable, so unreliable it's still late at off-peak periods. Much more buses at peak periods is needed, as these buses are often full even if there's another 2 or so behind the bus. In most of my life, I have been commuting on NXWM buses, I do sometimes find them unreliable but never as unreliable as these buses passing through the university.
I've noticed this unreliability occurs to ALL bus services serving the University, even including the X17 which passes the university close by. In fact, I think only the 87 is reliable.
I would rather to use X17 in the early morning and walk 15 minutes to the university than wait another 5 minutes and hope the 11/12 comes on time (and isn't full).
Certainly people who have lectures at Gibbet Hill find that the X17 works much better.
The route of the X17 isn't even that much longer than that off the 11.
I know that the 11 has such a bad reputation for reliability that it is widely accepted among Warwick students that Kenilworth is not a viable place to live for those who cannot drive, despite in theory having a half-hourly service and hourly at night / Sundays.
I appreciate the comments that the 11 may be being exceptionally bad at the moment due to things beyond NXC's control, and that it may not be quite as bad after, say, 2 weeks.
However, on this route there is
always something happening which is beyond NXC's control.
It's a bit like a commuter having disruption on their way to work: if they are aware of it, they ought to plan ahead, instead of keeping to their usual schedule and just sitting there on a train which isn't going anywhere, explaining to their boss that it wasn't their fault, gov.
Whether the disruption is their fault or not doesn't really matter, so long as they get there on time.
Because otherwise their boss is going to fall out with them very quickly.
I agree that the 87 is very reliable, but I also think that the W1a and W1c are very reliable.
The (NXC) 18a, which also goes close, is not too bad usually, though sometimes can be way out.
NXC now confirm this route change to services 5 and 6/6A which for some reason is now going to commence 1st December. :D
Quote from: JPC on September 06, 2013, 06:31:09 PM
VOSA is suggesting a route change on NXC services 5 and 6/6A from 27 October... Let me guess....
Only affecting westbound journeys in the Tile Hill direction.
Service 5 adjusted to take the current 6/6A route between Dolomite Avenue/Tile Hill Lane roundabout and Herald Avenue (Sainsbury's).
Service 6/6A therefore short cuts through Herald Avenue.
A [confusing but logical?] tweak creating relevant provision of service and a significant mileage saving and timekeeping help for service 6/6A.
In fact extending the evening and Sunday service 5 journeys from Canley Road to Sainsbury's [plenty of spare time to do so] might be a beneficial link.
1st December seems to be the start of University holidays when reduced timetables begin on routes 11/12 and Stagecoach routes. .
New Centro departure times have already been posted at bus stops around the Uni dated 1st December.
A new one way system outside the council house has been implemented with route 1 towards Tile Hill and 11/12 towards Uni seemingly being permanently diverted via Much Park Street and St. John Street. Two temporary bus stops has been installed, one in each road with road markings. The one in St. John Street has gained a temporary bus shelter with stickers on it stating "Passengers are requested not to obstruct the entrance of the Express and Star building". lt arrived on a lorry last night presumably direct from the Black Country!!
Quote from: JoNi on November 26, 2013, 01:17:37 PM
The one in St. John Street has gained a temporary bus shelter with stickers on it stating "Passengers are requested not to obstruct the entrance of the Express and Star building". lt arrived on a lorry last night presumably direct from the Black Country!!
That's come off Queen Street, Wolverhampton :)
Quote from: JoNi on November 26, 2013, 01:17:37 PM
A new one way system outside the council house has been implemented with route 1 towards Tile Hill and 11/12 towards Uni seemingly being permanently diverted via Much Park Street and St. John Street. Two temporary bus stops has been installed, one in each road with road markings. The one in St. John Street has gained a temporary bus shelter with stickers on it stating "Passengers are requested not to obstruct the entrance of the Express and Star building". lt arrived on a lorry last night presumably direct from the Black Country!!
Don't think I've ever seen a bus use those two roads before, although only the 1/11/12 will actually go that way. In days of old before the closure of Broadgate to traffic, many more services used to go the way of Little Park St etc. That road seemed quieter of late. Three temporary [looking] shelters have been erected outside/near the Transport Museum - presumably newer and more permanent shelters will be placed at these locations in due course?
4206 was parked up at the main Cannon Park bus stop between at least 1620 and 1630.
No driver seemed to be around and it was displaying 'Not in Service'.
Does anyone know why this might be?
Most likely a toilet break, waiting time, etc. before working a inbound service 12.
Some of those duties have piles of time for positioning it seems.
NXC are doing a survey (https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/nxcov11) on service 11/12 and are hinting about running a "faster" route between Coventry and University of Warwick.
What would you like to see happen? Here's a few ideas perhaps...
Extension of service 8 and 8A beyond the rail station to the University of Warwick.
A half-hourly "faster" route can cover/replace the City - Cannon Park section of service 18A.
Seem Coventry garage has bit change of vehicle allocation.
Route Types of Vehicle
1 Merc 405N & Volvo B7RLE
2 Merc 405N & DD*
3 Merc 405N & DD*
4 Bendy Buses- 100%
5 Merc 405N
6/6A Trident/ALX400 &Gemini/Volvo B7TL
7 Merc 405N
8/8A E400
9/9A Volvo B7RLE include School route operate on Any of DD.
10 Gemini/Volvo B7TL and ALX400/Trident
11/12 Trident/ALX400 & Gemini/Volvo B7TL & E400/E400 branded 21*
13/A Trident/ALX400 &Gemini/Volvo B7TL
16/A Trident/ALX400 &Gemini/Volvo B7TL
18/A Merc 405 (Sometime operate on DD)
19 Merc 405 & Any of Double Decker & B7RLE/Branded 20 in every evening board
20/A/E Volvo B7RLE (When the spare is Merc 405N)
21 E400 and Bendy Buses
23 Trident/ALX400 &Gemini/Volvo B7TL
27 Merc 405N with none peak times.
27A Trident/ALX400 &Gemini/Volvo B7TL with only peak times.
101 Bendy Buses and Double Decker
11/12- E400 unbranded on the 11/12 in all day and E400 branded 21 on the 11/12 from about 4pm and 5pm running to end of service around in 10pm/11pm/00am/01am with uni term time expect If E400 branded 21 has no spare in the garage that will another E400 unbranded or Gemini or ALX400/Trident/Volvo B7TL
101- Service between City Centre to Ricoh Arena and nearest Arena Park that's only event.
Every Sunday, Mercs will no longer operate on any routes but B7RLE will operate on single decker routes.
Branded Buses- Most time can see which Branded 4 on the 21's and Branded 21 on the 11/12's only. Branded 8/8A & 9/9A &20's is not normal on another routes expect only peak times.
Enviro on service 2 and 3 this afternoon, 4830 if I'm not mistaken.
In New Union Street, in the direction of Little Park St, routes 2, 3, 11, 12 and 21 have now been clustered at the first stop bay, which potentially replicates the scenario at Corporation Street (Co-Op) bus stops, two buses come together and traffic behind unable to pass. Meanwhile the third bay remains disused since it was built. ::)
5th Jan:
11/12 timetable amended.
26th Jan:
1, 2/3, 5 and 42 timetables amended.
Service 11/12 could have change frequency, increase more buses and make on turn time right.
On 1st December Centro had changed some stopping locations in Coventry City centre (new interchange guide here (http://www.networkwestmidlands.co.uk/nmsruntime/saveasdialog.aspx?lID=1699&sID=1841)).
But NXC had contested the changes (see here (http://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/service-alerts/city-centre-bus-stops/)) and continued to stop at old locations, but have now agreed to start using the new stop locations from start of service on Thurs 5th Dec with the exception of stand AA, due to roadworks on the kerb opposite and those services remain in Fairfax Street for the time being. :-\
The following is Centro's revised stopping locations
Hales St:
DD...13/86 (Binley Road)
DE...21 Wood End
Trinity St, two new bays:
AA...2/3/21 Fenside/Willenhall
AB...Stagecoach clusters 15/16/17/18/19 and 55/56/57
The two old bays are recoded as AC and AD
The Burges:
CA...yet another additional stop for service 2/3.
New Union St:
As mentioned yesterday some routes have swapped bays for no apparent reason.
Stand DF opposite at old Fire Station will no longer bus stop and there are worst disadvantage because always another private coach and sometime car always park on bus stop that's 21 E400 still difficult put parking and not safety place. I did seen before 21 E400 and Bendi has no space park on bus stop Stand DF due to two another private Coach parking on that include the car and that passenger still more risk walk to catch bus on the road!!
Now people will happy 21 to Wood End move back to Stand DE means there are more safety and won't problem again ever.
And I can said Centro need changes back on bus station stand. There are reason I can always see 4 and 10 together bus stop at Stand T that behind buses always blocks and make service 4 and 10 going to late. Also many time service 8/8A/9/9A when late buses together two that's bus driver will find another bus stop stand T or V means Service 4 or 10 bus will going again blocks and behind buses will get more blocks.
I guess Service 8/8A/9/9A should back on Stand H and 4 & 10 should back stand K means reduce to blocks but Centro has no plan for changes bus station stand :( I hope next year I can see Centro could plan for improve buses change on Bus Station.
Quote from: 6017 on December 04, 2013, 08:23:08 PM
Stand DF opposite at old Fire Station will no longer bus stop and there are worst disadvantage because always another private coach and sometime car always park on bus stop that's 21 E400 still difficult put parking and not safety place. I did seen before 21 E400 and Bendi has no space park on bus stop Stand DF due to two another private Coach parking on that include the car and that passenger still more risk walk to catch bus on the road!!
Now people will happy 21 to Wood End move back to Stand DE means there are more safety and won't problem again ever.
And I can said Centro need changes back on bus station stand. There are reason I can always see 4 and 10 together bus stop at Stand T that behind buses always blocks and make service 4 and 10 going to late. Also many time service 8/8A/9/9A when late buses together two that's bus driver will find another bus stop stand T or V means Service 4 or 10 bus will going again blocks and behind buses will get more blocks.
I guess Service 8/8A/9/9A should back on Stand H and 4 & 10 should back stand K means reduce to blocks but Centro has no plan for changes bus station stand :( I hope next year I can see Centro could plan for improve buses change on Bus Station.
For fear of raking up any previous debates, I find stand allocation in the Burges as illogical as Pool Meadow. -
4838 branded 21 on the 11/12 at tonight but not unusually. There always happen E400 branded 21 going on the 11/12 route in around evening and night.
1547 still inside the Coventry garage and awaiting for way to Miller St.
Quote from: ...♥6015♥... on December 05, 2013, 06:25:32 PM
4838 branded 21 on the 11/12 at tonight but not unusually. There always happen E400 branded 21 going on the 11/12 route in around evening and night.
1547 still inside the Coventry garage and awaiting for way to Miller St.
Mercedes withdrawals are so bittersweet for me, they are the first type of bus I can remember from new (I am only 17 after all). Yet I think they've certainly had their day. Had quite a few journey's on 1547.
I always noted that the fleet number for 1547 was in black and a different font to the rest. Any particular reason for this?
1547 may have gained it while at Wolverhampton a few years back
The 52-plate ZF Tridents at Coventry, 4405 - 4414, do they have 4-speed or 5-speed gearboxes?
I'm asking this as I know some older ZF Tridents have 4-speed gearboxes (such as the LN51's at First Worcester and the YN51's from Abellio), rather than the 5-speed gearboxes the ZF Tridents at BC and WN have.
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 06, 2013, 12:53:59 PM
The 52-plate ZF Tridents at Coventry, 4405 - 4414, do they have 4-speed or 5-speed gearboxes?
I'm asking this as I know some older ZF Tridents have 4-speed gearboxes (such as the LN51's at First Worcester and the YN51's from Abellio), rather than the 5-speed gearboxes the ZF Tridents at BC and WN have.
5 speed ZF like WN's I believe :)
I got bored of waiting for an answer so went to Coventry to find out for myself!
I caught 4405 on the 6, never got up to fifth gear due to slow driving, but it dounds essentially identical to the 03s at BC.
4405 is a tad slower than others anyway Matt. However 4405 - 4414 have the same ZF gearboxes that are in 4425 - 74, 4535 - 4564, 4585 - 4634
Quote from: Ashley on December 08, 2013, 06:34:53 PM
4405 is a tad slower than others anyway Matt. However 4405 - 4414 have the same ZF gearboxes that are in 4425 - 74, 4535 - 4564, 4585 - 4634
Cheers Ashley, that was what I expected
On another note, 1659 which I caught on the 5 is a very nice Merc
1659 is one I do like als well
Sad to see 1547 going...I rather wish it were 1548/1552, which were noisy engines with worn out bodies.
Is that a typo as 1552 went months ago
Quote from: Ashley on December 13, 2013, 05:34:02 PM
Is that a typo as 1552 went months ago
Was outdated & didn't realise that 1552 had gone...it's time though.
And 1549 is another noisy Merc beside 1548.
Quote from: F37 XOF on December 14, 2013, 11:56:24 AM
Quote from: Ashley on December 13, 2013, 05:34:02 PM
Is that a typo as 1552 went months ago
Was outdated & didn't realise that 1552 had gone...it's time though.
And 1549 is another noisy Merc beside 1548.
1549 is withdrawn
A new five-bay bus station is planned for University of Warwick :D
For further reading/documents go here (http://planningdocuments.warwickdc.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&keyVal=_WARWI_DCAPR_69372).
Quote from: JPC on December 15, 2013, 10:49:52 AM
A new five-bay bus station is planned for University of Warwick :D
For further reading/documents go here (http://planningdocuments.warwickdc.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&keyVal=_WARWI_DCAPR_69372).
Does the University of Warwick require a bus station?
Quote from: Sh4166 on December 15, 2013, 10:20:57 PM
Does the University of Warwick require a bus station?
Not entirely sure, but it would be a planning requirement, if University of Warwick wants to expand their site they must provide improved transport facilities. If you look back about 10 years ago would you have thought Walsgrave Hospital required a five bay bus station?, Apparently five isn't enough because Lo and behold Walsgrave now intends to expand to about nine bays.
The main benefit for service 11/12 would be the removal of the confusing/awkward loop and journeys towards Coventry will be able to run via the Sports Centre and Security Office after departing the planned bus station [as long as two new bus stops are inserted in that direction of course].
Quote from: F37 XOF on December 13, 2013, 02:42:23 PM
Sad to see 1547 going...I rather wish it were 1548/1552, which were noisy engines with worn out bodies.
The batch of thirteen Mercs delivered in the "tartan quilt" livery have seen heavy withdrawals recently. Only 1543, 1546, 1548 and 1550 still left in service now.
Anyone know what happended with the 13's around 12:30, four 13's all heading towards whitmore park turned up, not one turned short either which surpirsed me
4219 is back from Refurb been back about a week now better late than never(:
Saw 2155 on 20 yesterday with full rear advert for Pet Shop.
1548 hooked up to the Mansfield truck today by ikea, on the 2 at around 16:30!
4689 has also joined 4687, 4694 and 4695 in being a permanent hoverer! :o
http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/bus/servicechanges/ServiceChangesPages/05January2014.aspx
According to that page, 11 terminates at Broad Lane (I wonder if it'll stop at the university) and 12 is extended to Leamington Spa. Does anyone else have some info on this one?
Quote from: :D on December 24, 2013, 01:40:45 PM
http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/bus/servicechanges/ServiceChangesPages/05January2014.aspx
According to that page, 11 terminates at Broad Lane (I wonder if it'll stop at the university) and 12 is extended to Leamington Spa. Does anyone else have some info on this one?
Centro sometimes fail to update such route descriptions, the 11 was a long standing bus service between City and Broad Lane until it was withdrawn in the April 2006 bus review. Rest assured there will be no change [for now] to the 11/12 line of route on 5th Jan 2014.
Quote from: lauren1993 on December 23, 2013, 10:15:25 PM
1548 hooked up to the Mansfield truck today by ikea, on the 2 at around 16:30!
Based on observation earlier in the day the breakdown would of been the 15:42 departure
1548 was back out on the 2/3 again today ::)
1, 2/3, 11/12 will be diverted away from Council house area for 8 weeks while junction and roads are remodelled. 2/3 will operate to city via Corporation St and terminate outside Sainsburys where the 21 stops. ::)
Quote from: :D on December 24, 2013, 01:40:45 PM
http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/bus/servicechanges/ServiceChangesPages/05January2014.aspx
According to that page, 11 terminates at Broad Lane (I wonder if it'll stop at the university) and 12 is extended to Leamington Spa. Does anyone else have some info on this one?
What's the point of changing the route numbers back & forth?
I'm glad to see the 12 coming back as the Cov-Uni-Leam link though.
Quote from: F37 XOF on January 07, 2014, 04:23:27 PM
Quote from: :D on December 24, 2013, 01:40:45 PM
http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/bus/servicechanges/ServiceChangesPages/05January2014.aspx
According to that page, 11 terminates at Broad Lane (I wonder if it'll stop at the university) and 12 is extended to Leamington Spa. Does anyone else have some info on this one?
What's the point of changing the route numbers back & forth?
I'm glad to see the 12 coming back as the Cov-Uni-Leam link though.
There is no change to the routes, that must be a mistake on that page. All that's happening is the 'registered term time timetable is being corrected'.
Further to the junction improvements mentioned some time ago around the Westwood Business Park / University of Warwick area, this document was released today:
http://democraticservices.coventry.gov.uk/documents/s14155/University%20of%20Warwick%20and%20Westwood%20Business%20Park%20Congestion%20Relief.pdf
It suggests that one of the key motives for these is improving bus reliability.
Quote from: Valandil on January 07, 2014, 09:20:22 PM
Further to the junction improvements mentioned some time ago around the Westwood Business Park / University of Warwick area, this document was released today:
http://democraticservices.coventry.gov.uk/documents/s14155/University%20of%20Warwick%20and%20Westwood%20Business%20Park%20Congestion%20Relief.pdf
It suggests that one of the key motives for these is improving bus reliability.
Looks promising to me . I'm just hoping that 18 & 19 don't have their routes altered, they seem to work pretty well nowadays on the whole.
Quote from: JoNi on January 04, 2014, 09:37:06 PM
1, 2/3, 11/12 will be diverted away from Council house area for 8 weeks while junction and roads are remodelled. 2/3 will operate to city via Corporation St and terminate outside Sainsburys where the 21 stops. ::)
Not completely sure as I visited Pool Meadow only once this week, but I boarded a 3 in Fairfax Street which suggests the 2/3 are going through Pool Meadow to turnaround onto Fairfax St to wait time... then they go around the corner to look out for punters on stand AA, then an odd OAP might get off at Ironmonger Row, then look out for more punters at the next stop in The Burges, what a rigmarole.
Routing for route 2/3 taken from temporary diversions section of NXC website. Like you JPC i've seen 2/3s stopping in Fairfax St, presumably to prevent congestion outside Sainsburys as road has been narrowed while surfacing work has taken place on the offside. The taxi rank sign in Fairfax Street as been modified to 9 taxis.
Not sure whether this is a 9 Finham working cut short?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/114083385@N05/11929785624/
Quote from: Rob H on January 13, 2014, 02:51:19 PM
Not sure whether this is a 9 Finham working cut short?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/114083385@N05/11929785624/
I don't know if this is anything to do with it but I saw a double decker 9E heading along Corperation street towards Pool meadow at about 15:30 today, I don't know if this is normal or not. Something struck me odd with it.
The double deck was a Trident btw, but I didn't catch the number.
Yes it's a duplicate school journey from Bishop Ullathorne school to the City.
It's a bus from the 23 which forms the 14:55 to Allesley Park and 15:20 return on school holidays.
My mate text me earlier to tell me the good news of 2157 being towed back to Wheatley Street this afternoon :D
4891 has re-entered service with plain white panels on rear of bus lacking branding for 8/A it had before. Sides and front still route branded.
4891 re-entered service over a week ago. I also noticed the branding has been lost from the rear. I think 4891 was crashed into hence being otr for a while and having new back panels. 2157 is not even back in service is it?
After a day in Coventry yesterday I have gained the following impression of the Mon - Sat allocations.
1 - Merc
2 - Merc, ALX400
3 - Merc, ALX400
4 - Citaro
5 - Merc
6/6A - ALX400, Gemini
7 - Merc
8/8A - E400
9/9A - B7RLE
10 - ALX400, Gemini
11 - ALX400, Gemini
12 - ALX400, Gemini
13 - ALX400, Gemini, E400
16/16A - Merc, ALX400, Gemini
18/18A - Merc
20/20A/20E - B7RLE
21 - E400
23 - B7RLE
27 - Merc
42 - ALX400, Gemini
Does this sound about right? Also, how does it change on a Sunday?
Quote from: Matt on January 19, 2014, 03:25:09 PM
After a day in Coventry yesterday I have gained the following impression of the Mon - Sat allocations.
1 - Merc
2 - Merc, Trident
3 - Merc, Trident
4 - Citaro
5 - Merc
6/6A - ALX400, Gemini
7 - Merc
8/8A - E400
9/9A - B7RLE
10 - ALX400, Gemini
11 - ALX400, Gemini
12 - ALX400, Gemini
13 - ALX400, Gemini, E400
16/16A - Merc, ALX400, Gemini
18/18A - Merc
20/20A/20E - B7RLE
21 - E400
23 - B7RLE
27 - Merc
42 - ALX400, Gemini
Does this sound about right? Also, how does it change on a Sunday?
Well the 10, 11 and 12 also sees e400s on a regular basis. The 18 18A is merc and trident operated usually. The 20 also sees a few mercs at least every week, the 21 usually has 1 or 2 citaros on on mon-sat the 23 is usually tridents on mon-fri and on sundays the 2/3 is 20 branded b7's the 4 is unbranded b7s the 5 is 9 branded b7's the 6 6A is geminis and enviros the 7 is 9 branded b7's the 10 is geminis and e400s the 11 and 12 is fully e400 operated, the 13 I am unsure about, the 16 I think is tridents/geminis or b7's the 18 is geminis and the 23 is also 20 branded b7's
Also, why is it that I can't seem to find a 42 timetable anywhere?
42 timetable:
http://nxbus.co.uk/files/NXCoventry/current_timetables/C042_21Oct12.pdf
4400, 1570, 6017 and 4451 have all had their mega rear adverts removed this weekend. 6017 noticebly has no 4 branding on the back because of this unlike the rest of 6012-6018
Saw a merc in Allesley service 0 to Jaguar Works via Barkers Butts Lane on blinds
Wondered how often this runs
Quote from: vinh1000 on January 21, 2014, 09:53:44 AM
Saw a merc in Allesley service 0 to Jaguar Works via Barkers Butts Lane on blinds
Wondered how often this runs
Sounds like it's running dead off (or possibly onto) a 7.
Re 7 running dead could be catching up time, buses having been running late this morning due to bad traffic. Vinh1000 - when did you see it?
A notice on RTI in Pool Meadow stated emergency roadworks at Cromwell Avenue/Charter Avenue has resulted in the 6/A being routed via 6 outbound and 6A when returning to the city. The 18 was terminated short at the old Canley terminus. NXC website states 6/A now running normally.
Roadworks associated with removal of the right turning filter lanes on the "highway" at Kenilworth Road has caused congestion which has affected the 9A and also 11/12 due to tailbacks.
Quote from: JoNi on January 21, 2014, 02:05:12 PM
Re 7 running dead could be catching up time, buses having been running late this morning due to bad traffic. Vinh1000 - when did you see it?
A notice on RTI in Pool Meadow stated emergency roadworks at Cromwell Avenue/Charter Avenue has resulted in the 6/A being routed via 6 outbound and 6A when returning to the city. The 18 was terminated short at the old Canley terminus. NXC website states 6/A now running normally.
Roadworks associated with removal of the right turning filter lanes on the "highway" at Kenilworth Road has caused congestion which has affected the 9A and also 11/12 due to tailbacks.
the time I posted it 9:53am
odd it posted on blinds jaguar works lol
I'm pretty certain Jaguar Works is next to Brownshill Green on the blind and it's an easy way of showing not in service if you see what I mean.
Buses tend to run dead to catch up time when meal reliefs are due
NXC posters have appeared at Tile Hill South saying the 18/A is terminating at the old Canley terminus "Until further notice".
I'll post various short workings seen today on the E thread.
Seen another president 41xx on Holyhead road - do they send one every Thursday for something?
They come over to Coventry for MOT's on a Thursday.
Was watching a merc scroll through the blinds 1572 did Cov ever run a route to Solihull or balsall common?
Quote from: vinh1000 on January 24, 2014, 09:18:20 AM
Was watching a merc scroll through the blinds 1572 did Cov ever run a route to Solihull or balsall common?
They did the 19X/19W via Balsall Common (192/194 replacement in the Solihull Network Review) which got replaced by the 82 via Balsall Common which got replaced by the Diamond 82 via Meriden
4399 is back from refurb and in service today on the 2 and 3. Shiny, no adverts, grey seats! Looks great! :)
Quote from: lauren1993 on January 24, 2014, 06:14:40 PM
4399 is back from refurb and in service today on the 2 and 3. Shiny, no adverts, grey seats! Looks great! :)
Most buses look like that when they come back from return ;) At least all buses come back from refurb with grey seats :)
QuoteMost buses look like that when they come back from return ;) At least all buses come back from refurb with grey seats :)
The grey seats really are a great improvement!
New Centro timetables have been issued
1 (revised route at Council House), no new 11/12 timetable yet
2/3 (revised timetable) - map shows Pool meadow as terminus, timetable has The Burges as terminus
5/7/900 (revised timetable)
Strange that 4451 didn't have its advert removed :s. 6017 had the same advert now its gone, some buses had not long had their advert put up either e.g. 1570 then had it removed! 4451 has had that advert for years! 2155 still has an advert. :)
Saw an Acocks Green B7 with the same yellow Coventry Uni advert still on the back yesterday.
Quote from: JoNi on January 26, 2014, 02:46:11 PM
Saw an Acocks Green B7 with the same yellow Coventry Uni advert still on the back yesterday.
4200 at Pensnett still has that advert, I believe.
Quote from: JoNi on January 22, 2014, 01:17:38 PM
NXC posters have appeared at Tile Hill South saying the 18/A is terminating at the old Canley terminus "Until further notice".
How long did this last?
Quote from: JoNi on January 26, 2014, 01:49:18 PM
5/7/900 (revised timetable)
When are they valid from? And where can I find them?
NX appears to still have timetables valid from october 2013 on their websites.
Quote from: ben710 on January 26, 2014, 03:41:28 PM
Quote from: JoNi on January 22, 2014, 01:17:38 PM
NXC posters have appeared at Tile Hill South saying the 18/A is terminating at the old Canley terminus "Until further notice".
How long did this last?
On Saturday (yesterday), it was terminating at the usual terminus that it shares with the 5
Quote from: ben710 on January 26, 2014, 03:41:28 PM
Quote from: JoNi on January 22, 2014, 01:17:38 PM
NXC posters have appeared at Tile Hill South saying the 18/A is terminating at the old Canley terminus "Until further notice".
How long did this last?
Quote from: JoNi on January 26, 2014, 01:49:18 PM
5/7/900 (revised timetable)
When are they valid from? And where can I find them?
NX appears to still have timetables valid from october 2013 on their websites.
From today, 26 January - service 5 is modified slightly, adjusted timing points in Earlsdon, as far as I'm aware.
I suppose average Joe passenger wouldn't notice a difference anyway.
ben710 - another enthusiast told me they were in pool meadow travel centre 5 minutes before it closed yesterday! They also have photocopies of the new 360 timetable.
Quote from: JoNi on January 26, 2014, 05:32:58 PM
ben710 - another enthusiast told me they were in pool meadow travel centre 5 minutes before it closed yesterday! They also have photocopies of the new 360 timetable.
Right I shall go and have a look on my way through town tomorrow. :)
Thanks
The "greenhouse" that occasionally served as an information point outside the travel centre in Pool Meadow was removed today, revealing the old Centro sign in the brickwork on the floor.
1678 out on the 23 Today. I managed to get a pic of it leaving Coventry this morning (link is below)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/114083385@N05/12305013046/
The unbranded b7's have finally got something in the space where 'another new bus for you' used to be stuck on! Since yesterday they now advertise the daysaver price in a blue sticker!
Some old Mercs have had their side and rear adverts ripped off, leaving areas of bare metal in some cases or black marks.
Quote from: JoNi on February 04, 2014, 10:11:26 PM
Some old Mercs have had their side and rear adverts ripped off, leaving areas of bare metal in some cases or black marks.
On the subject of Mercs, the interiors are getting bad. Mismatched seats (ok there are exceptions like 1601, which also has my favourite moquette) scratched paintwork. Leaking interiors. (Friday evening on the 7 was horrendous in the rain -I forget the fleet number). Loose panels. Not a good image for NX really anymore.
EDIT. 1601 isn't Cov. I probably meant 1610.
The mention of 0.405N 1678 by Rob he photographed gives me the chance to ask, just when did that bus come to Coventry and where did itcome from. Since the delivery of the new buses in Coventry I also seen 1634,1635,1636 1655 that I am sure were not in the Coventry fleet before. Can anyone provide any details, and tell me just what 0.405Ns we do have at Wheatley St. now.
Quote from: t.w.moore on February 05, 2014, 07:33:27 PM
The mention of 0.405N 1678 by Rob he photographed gives me the chance to ask, just when did that bus come to Coventry and where did itcome from. Since the delivery of the new buses in Coventry I also seen 1634,1635,1636 1655 that I am sure were not in the Coventry fleet before. Can anyone provide any details, and tell me just what 0.405Ns we do have at Wheatley St. now.
Full histories of each individual bus in on the relevant page on the main site - here is 1678
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1515-1743/1678.html
Quote from: t.w.moore on February 05, 2014, 07:33:27 PM
The mention of 0.405N 1678 by Rob he photographed gives me the chance to ask, just when did that bus come to Coventry and where did itcome from. Since the delivery of the new buses in Coventry I also seen 1634,1635,1636 1655 that I am sure were not in the Coventry fleet before. Can anyone provide any details, and tell me just what 0.405Ns we do have at Wheatley St. now.
Those mentioned have came from other garages either last year or late 2012
1634-6 came from Bordesley
1655 came from West Brom
1678 came from Wolverhampton
Another one was 1558 from Pensnett, now withdrawn
The number of O405Ns were reduced when the B7RLEs were put into service, I think there is around 20 left in service
Quote from: John on February 05, 2014, 07:37:59 PM
Another one was 1558 from Pensnett, now withdrawn
I suspect you mean 1557, which moved from Pensnett to Coventry in March 2012 and is now withdrawn. 1558 did the same move in 2008 but is still in service.
Quote from: uniquicity on February 05, 2014, 07:49:37 PM
Quote from: John on February 05, 2014, 07:37:59 PM
Another one was 1558 from Pensnett, now withdrawn
I suspect you mean 1557, which moved from Pensnett to Coventry in March 2012 and is now withdrawn. 1558 did the same move in 2008 but is still in service.
Yes I do, sorry!!
re where did 1578 come from....thanks all, I see the 0405 list and histories I can check on in future. I did see 1548...Coventry's oldest 0405N on service Canley 19 service today...looked good to me.
Think these remain in service in Coventry:
1548/1550/1558/1563-1564/1566/1568-1572/1579/1591/1594/1608/1610/1612/1625/1634-1636/1655-1656/1659/1678/1680/1703 (27 examples).
Hell on 11/12 as usual this afternoon.
Passed an 11 and 12 together on Kenilworth Road last night having seemingly have come via full length of Earlsdon Ave South. NXC were recently running a survey asking customers what they want in future.
Quote from: JoNi on February 07, 2014, 06:40:24 PM
Passed an 11 and 12 together on Kenilworth Road last night having seemingly have come via full length of Earlsdon Ave South. NXC were recently running a survey asking customers what they want in future.
And have so far done nothing about. Not even a response or mention or anything unless I've been living on planet Mars (which is probable :P)
Quote from: ben710 on February 07, 2014, 07:11:14 PM
Quote from: JoNi on February 07, 2014, 06:40:24 PM
Passed an 11 and 12 together on Kenilworth Road last night having seemingly have come via full length of Earlsdon Ave South. NXC were recently running a survey asking customers what they want in future.
And have so far done nothing about. Not even a response or mention or anything unless I've been living on planet Mars (which is probable :P)
If there's going to be any significant changes to the 11/12 routes I expect it will not occur until either the start of (29th June), during (20th July or 31st Aug) or the end of the summer university holidays (28th Sept).
Quote from: JoNi on February 07, 2014, 06:40:24 PM
Passed an 11 and 12 together on Kenilworth Road last night having seemingly have come via full length of Earlsdon Ave South.
That sounds like it will have been in relation to this:
http://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/service-alerts/western-power-high-voltage-cable-replacement
Quote from: Valandil on February 08, 2014, 10:34:43 PM
Quote from: JoNi on February 07, 2014, 06:40:24 PM
Passed an 11 and 12 together on Kenilworth Road last night having seemingly have come via full length of Earlsdon Ave South.
That sounds like it will have been in relation to this:
http://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/service-alerts/western-power-high-voltage-cable-replacement
That is correct. In fact there are three lots of roadworks for the 12 to contend with at the moment.
1)Little Park Street closed.
2)Hearsall Lane/Hearsall common single file traffic.
3) The link above.
Not that any of them are the
cause of the allready poor reliability, (Just exacerbating it)
The survey relating to the 12 is on the news section of NXC website homepage dated 3rd December 2013.
Over the past two weeks I've seen buses running private from City to Warwick Uni via Earlsdon route 5, which I suppose would be the quickest route at present.
Five way temporary traffic lights are now in situ at the Quinton Road/Daventry Road junction on the 2/3 route, about a 6 minute sequence and buses seemingly unable to get through the first time if they have to stop at the nearby bus stop. ::)
After a hiatus of about 11 weeks the reconstuction of the remaining two old bus stops in Trinity Street is due to start 23rd Feb,
Click here (http://networkwestmidlands.com/ServiceAlterations/RoadworksandEvents/TrinityStreetCoventry.aspx) for details.
Quote from: JPC on February 14, 2014, 04:58:59 PM
After a hiatus of about 11 weeks the reconstuction of the remaining two old bus stops in Trinity Street is due to start 23rd Feb,
Click here (http://networkwestmidlands.com/ServiceAlterations/RoadworksandEvents/TrinityStreetCoventry.aspx) for details.
When this is all finished - presumably some new (and quite fancy!) shelters will be installed on Trinity Street? A-la city-centre Birmingham style.
Quote from: paulb1973 on February 14, 2014, 08:29:24 PM
Quote from: JPC on February 14, 2014, 04:58:59 PM
After a hiatus of about 11 weeks the reconstuction of the remaining two old bus stops in Trinity Street is due to start 23rd Feb,
Click here (http://networkwestmidlands.com/ServiceAlterations/RoadworksandEvents/TrinityStreetCoventry.aspx) for details.
When this is all finished - presumably some new (and quite fancy!) shelters will be installed on Trinity Street? A-la city-centre Birmingham style.
Let's hope these ones actually live up to the name "shelter". We do get wet and windy weather in this country as even Centro may have noticed recently!
Quote from: paulb1973 on February 14, 2014, 08:29:24 PM
Quote from: JPC on February 14, 2014, 04:58:59 PM
After a hiatus of about 11 weeks the reconstuction of the remaining two old bus stops in Trinity Street is due to start 23rd Feb,
Click here (http://networkwestmidlands.com/ServiceAlterations/RoadworksandEvents/TrinityStreetCoventry.aspx) for details.
When this is all finished - presumably some new (and quite fancy!) shelters will be installed on Trinity Street? A-la city-centre Birmingham style.
So no proper seats then....
Good job I don't get the bus in Trinity Street then isn't it :P
Recently I was a little bit surprised about why NX allocated service 42 E400's. (If I recall correctly from the unusual workings thread.)
I was under the impression it was a bus service that people didn't really use... And I came very close to publically critisizing the service on the thread.
Well, I found myself using it this morning, it was very handy in saving me a wait for the 900 or 23. And there were a good number of people using it, completely changed my opinion.
I just wanted to share this, as I was surprised my opinion of it could change so quickly!
Quote from: ben710 on February 18, 2014, 01:32:19 PM
Recently I was a little bit surprised about why NX allocated service 42 E400's. (If I recall correctly from the unusual workings thread.)
I was under the impression it was a bus service that people didn't really use... And I came very close to publically critisizing the service on the thread.
Well, I found myself using it this morning, it was very handy in saving me a wait for the 900 or 23. And there were a good number of people using it, completely changed my opinion.
I just wanted to share this, as I was surprised my opinion of it could change so quickly!
When the 42 had a PVR of 2 and operated through to Wainbody and Cannon Park, it was definitely unusual to see any kind of decker on there. In fact, little Solos were quite common.
Since the curtailing of the route though and the reduction in PVR to 1, the vehicle on there goes onto schools, meaning a decker is needed Monday to Friday, but not on Saturdays.
When you caught the 42, was it by any chance the first working which elderly/disabled pass-holders can use? -- that one seems to be the most popular!
Quote from: Valandil on February 18, 2014, 02:10:51 PM
When you caught the 42, was it by any chance the first working which elderly/disabled pass-holders can use? -- that one seems to be the most popular!
Sorry to dissapoint but no it wasn't. I think I was on the second working from the city centre at about 11am, completely by chance;it turned up within seconds of me getting to the stop in the Burges.
I was just looking at the timetable, and I noticed that with the exception of additional Saturday workings, its weekday and Saturday timetable is identical. -Unlike the majority of other services!
Side joke: This post has been bought to you by the number
42. "Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, The Universe, and Everything"
Quote from: ben710 on February 18, 2014, 06:47:04 PM
Quote from: Valandil on February 18, 2014, 02:10:51 PM
When you caught the 42, was it by any chance the first working which elderly/disabled pass-holders can use? -- that one seems to be the most popular!
Sorry to dissapoint but no it wasn't. I think I was on the second working from the city centre at about 11am, completely by chance;it turned up within seconds of me getting to the stop in the Burges.
And the majority of those riders would have came into town on the 0930 from Coundon. ;D
This weekend sees the start of the next phase of Trinity Street works.
Bus stop alterations
21 Willenhall reverts to opposite Pool Meadow with 2/3.
21 Wood End reverts to opposite Fire Station
13 Willenhall moves forward to where 21 picks up now
Stagecoach buses to Leamington pick up outside museum
20 and Stagecoach routes to Nuneaton move down to bottom of Trinity Street.
Work started yesterday with demolition of remaining ghastly bus shelters which provided no shelter from elements. For those who miss this rare design there are still some sited outside Wood Green shopping centre in North London.
Roadworks... Feel free to ignore. :P
Quote from: JoNi on February 21, 2014, 08:44:55 AM
This weekend sees the start of the next phase of Trinity Street works.
Yes, and its currently a mess. Which shop will have a bus inside its front window next? (That was rhetorical)
Good news for the 11/12: Belvedere road has reopened and it looks like Hearsall Common is back to normal!
Staying on the topic of roadworks (11/12), I wish the inbound diversion via the ring road was permanent. Felt a little bit thrashy this evening!
Ben, the speed the work outside the council house is proceeding it might as well be! I walked past the site this morning and found new kerbstones had been laid outside Browns reducing the road to single file, allowing Brown's to have the possibility of a huge seating area on the pavement.
It seems that Clifford Bridge Road is to go down to one lane for some of the time until Monday.
Hopefully this won't cause too many problems.
I saw a strange display yesterday...
vehicle 2166. I'm using "~" to replicate a thick orange line. Everything on the display was completely static.
Old Church Road
20 ~~~~~~~~~~~
Short Working
Info anybody? Thanks :)
Quote from: ben710 on March 02, 2014, 01:09:57 AM
I saw a strange display yesterday...
vehicle 2166. I'm using "~" to replicate a thick orange line. Everything on the display was completely static.
Old Church Road
20 ~~~~~~~~~~~
Short Working
Info anybody? Thanks :)
A traffic accident briefly closed Foleshill Road near to Windmill Rd at about Midday on Saturday, guessing the bus was significantly late at the time you seen it and only had time for a short return trip until his or her relief/book off time.
Quote from: ben710 on March 02, 2014, 01:09:57 AM
I saw a strange display yesterday...
vehicle 2166. I'm using "~" to replicate a thick orange line. Everything on the display was completely static.
Old Church Road
20 ~~~~~~~~~~~
Short Working
Info anybody? Thanks :)
That's a good sighting!
The only short version of the 20 I've seen before is to 'Longford Square'.
It's silly that every route has 'E' appended for short workings (after the removal of any other letters there first) except for the 20, because it's already taken by the main route 20E.
Quote from: JPC on March 02, 2014, 04:33:43 PM
A traffic accident briefly closed Foleshill Road near to Windmill Rd at about Midday on Saturday, guessing the bus was significantly late at the time you seen it and only had time for a short return trip until his or her relief/book off time.
That makes perfect sense now.
Quote from: Valandil on March 02, 2014, 09:47:28 PM
That's a good sighting!
The only short version of the 20 I've seen before is to 'Longford Square'.
It's silly that every route has 'E' appended for short workings (after the removal of any other letters there first) except for the 20, because it's already taken by the main route 20E.
I personally like the E appendix, but I see the point that it creates the dialemma of what is done if a short working is shortened? or in the case of multiple digit route numbers.
I like the compromise here; a one off short working that clearly show's where the bus will terminate.
Thanks all!
Think I would have left the 20/30/40 numbering system as it was during the Feb 2012 changes. The 40 to Bell Green was clear enough and appeared to passengers as a separate service. 30 could have been used for shorter-workings to Oban Rd (as was broadly the case in the early 70's) with the 20 going all the way to Bedworth, as it always did, leaving '20A' & '20E' free. We have a plethora of 'A' services in Coventry currently, harking back to the final days of CT and the first few years of WMPTE operation - perhaps its just a fad and these will disappear and be renumbered in the long-term?
Quote from: paulb1973 on March 04, 2014, 10:19:01 AM
Think I would have left the 20/30/40 numbering system as it was during the Feb 2012 changes. The 40 to Bell Green was clear enough and appeared to passengers as a separate service. 30 could have been used for shorter-workings to Oban Rd (as was broadly the case in the early 70's) with the 20 going all the way to Bedworth, as it always did, leaving '20A' & '20E' free. We have a plethora of 'A' services in Coventry currently, harking back to the final days of CT and the first few years of WMPTE operation - perhaps its just a fad and these will disappear and be renumbered in the long-term?
I have to say that I do prefer the 20a/e slightly to 20/30/40(/50/60 as was) since at least it shows some logical connection.
When I first came to Coventry, I remember being a bit confused that the 20 shared far more in common with distant numbers like 50 and 60 than it did with the 19 and 21.
Ideally, I would like to see three consecutive numbers used, e.g. 24, 25, 26, but at least 20/a/b would be preferable to 20a/e in my view.
I also feel really sorry for the people of Hawkesbury who no longer have a bus to Coventry, and wish that half of the 20e's could run to there instead of Oban Road: surely it must only take about 1/2 mins more than doing that loop.
Quote from: Valandil on March 04, 2014, 10:41:08 PM
Quote from: paulb1973 on March 04, 2014, 10:19:01 AM
Think I would have left the 20/30/40 numbering system as it was during the Feb 2012 changes. The 40 to Bell Green was clear enough and appeared to passengers as a separate service. 30 could have been used for shorter-workings to Oban Rd (as was broadly the case in the early 70's) with the 20 going all the way to Bedworth, as it always did, leaving '20A' & '20E' free. We have a plethora of 'A' services in Coventry currently, harking back to the final days of CT and the first few years of WMPTE operation - perhaps its just a fad and these will disappear and be renumbered in the long-term?
I have to say that I do prefer the 20a/e slightly to 20/30/40(/50/60 as was) since at least it shows some logical connection.
When I first came to Coventry, I remember being a bit confused that the 20 shared far more in common with distant numbers like 50 and 60 than it did with the 19 and 21.
Ideally, I would like to see three consecutive numbers used, e.g. 24, 25, 26, but at least 20/a/b would be preferable to 20a/e in my view.
I also feel really sorry for the people of Hawkesbury who no longer have a bus to Coventry, and wish that half of the 20e's could run to there instead of Oban Road: surely it must only take about 1/2 mins more than doing that loop.
There is a history of both in the city, consecutive numbers being used on services that broadly follow the same route; 3/4, 5/6, 7/8, 10/11, 32/33 and so on. But also using numbers ending in the same digit as described above, 21/31/41/51 along the Stoney Stanton Rd at one point, other examples include the 17/27 & 18/28 - although the City - Spon End/Earlsdon - Canley corridor, you could say has used both systems: 18/18E/19/19W/28/29 etc since the separate Earlsdon (29/39) & Canley (18) services were merged in April 1985.
I stand to be corrected by other forum members,
The impression I have is there was an edict from Wumpty in the 70's that A and C suffixes were for circular services only. Hence the demise of Coventry suffix lettered routes and why 32 and 33 were used for the merger of routes 6 and 8/A instead of taking one of the old numbers.
This almost as bad as TfL who had to extend the 5 to Romford to "obtain" the number 87 so that it could get rid of the last suffix lettered route in London the 77A.
From my experiences in Trent where bus displays show "Sixes" alternating with variants shown as 6.1, 6.2 or 6.3
Does anyone else know about this one?
PD0001111/693 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Tile Hill, North Terminus and Coventry, University Hospital, Walsgrave given service number C1 effective from 23-Mar-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.
I think most of info in VOSA database is outdated, and that's probably why I don't know anything about C1, but my guess is that it's 18/A.
Quote from: :D on March 05, 2014, 03:40:25 PMI think most of info in VOSA database is outdated, and that's probably why I don't know anything about C1, but my guess is that it's 18/A.
NX need to get their VOSA registrations in order!
I'd be surprised if even they didn't get confused by them.
Quote from: Valandil on March 05, 2014, 06:19:30 PM
Quote from: :D on March 05, 2014, 03:40:25 PMI think most of info in VOSA database is outdated, and that's probably why I don't know anything about C1, but my guess is that it's 18/A.
NX need to get their VOSA registrations in order!
I'd be surprised if even they didn't get confused by them.
NX cannot tell VOSA what to do! As long as what is on the submission is correct what VOSA publish is up to them!
Quote from: Tony on March 05, 2014, 07:11:56 PMNX cannot tell VOSA what to do! As long as what is on the submission is correct what VOSA publish is up to them!
Apologies if I am mistaken.
I have however seen companies make substantial cancellations of old registrations and submission of new registrations when e.g. destinations or route numbers change.
I have even seen cancellations of individual services be made with an accompanying re-registration for them all together in one logical group of consecutive numbers, just for 'tidying up'.
I imagine that keeping old registration and making variations when needed is easier, but may end up far from the original registration which still shows up as the text on VOSA.
Quote from: Valandil on March 05, 2014, 07:59:07 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 05, 2014, 07:11:56 PMNX cannot tell VOSA what to do! As long as what is on the submission is correct what VOSA publish is up to them!
Apologies if I am mistaken.
I have however seen companies make substantial cancellations of old registrations and submission of new registrations when e.g. destinations or route numbers change.
I have even seen cancellations of individual services be made with an accompanying re-registration for them all together in one logical group of consecutive numbers, just for 'tidying up'.
I imagine that keeping old registration and making variations when needed is easier, but may end up far from the original registration which still shows up as the text on VOSA.
Why would you do a cancellation and a new registration when you do not need to? You are paying twice for one change. Does it actually matter if VOSA record the wrong terminal points to anyone other than VOSA? Can you name one of these companies that pays these additional costs just to keep service registrations in numerical order?
Quote from: Tony on March 05, 2014, 08:03:20 PMWhy would you do a cancellation and a new registration when you do not need to? You are paying twice for one change. Does it actually matter if VOSA record the wrong terminal points to anyone other than VOSA? Can you name one of these companies that pays these additional costs just to keep service registrations in numerical order?
My own favourite company Warrington Borough Transport has made substantial changes like this: you can see on VOSA cancelled registrations for '31' and '31 (32)' before the most recent registration of '30 (31/32/32a)' when amendments were made.
By the way, I am not trying to 'win an argument' here, I just thought I would mention this different approach, which may make sense in some ways but not in others.
Quote from: Valandil on March 06, 2014, 01:07:07 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 05, 2014, 08:03:20 PMWhy would you do a cancellation and a new registration when you do not need to? You are paying twice for one change. Does it actually matter if VOSA record the wrong terminal points to anyone other than VOSA? Can you name one of these companies that pays these additional costs just to keep service registrations in numerical order?
My own favourite company Warrington Borough Transport has made substantial changes like this: you can see on VOSA cancelled registrations for '31' and '31 (32)' before the most recent registration of '30 (31/32/32a)' when amendments were made.
By the way, I am not trying to 'win an argument' here, I just thought I would mention this different approach, which may make sense in some ways but not in others.
That is different, and usually at the recommendation of VOSA. NXWM did the same with the 22 & 23 last year. VOSA seem to like services that have a large common section on the same registration. This also saves money as next time the NXWM 22/23, or Warrington 30/31/31 change chance are the connected services also have changes so again only one payment needs to be made for the variation, not two. It is not because the operator just wants to tidy up his registration numbers.
Quote from: Tony on March 06, 2014, 06:27:38 PMThat is different, and usually at the recommendation of VOSA. NXWM did the same with the 22 & 23 last year. VOSA seem to like services that have a large common section on the same registration. This also saves money as next time the NXWM 22/23, or Warrington 30/31/31 change chance are the connected services also have changes so again only one payment needs to be made for the variation, not two. It is not because the operator just wants to tidy up his registration numbers.
Fair enough -- thanks for the clarification.
2157 was in Perry Barr this morning. Drove in with new nearside panels unpainted
Saw it in Coventry about 09:30 being drive by engineer with scrape on offside panel.
6012 back in service today still sporting Bendibus twice as long bus branding on the back.
If you look at the NX website closely you'll see that road re surfacing in Browns Lane will affect service 7 which will terminate in Allesley Village.
I'm wondering if we'll see our first 7E (or an interesting alternative), and whether drivers will try and be naughty (like in the early 2000's if I remember correctly) and turn at the triangular junction at the top of Allesley Village (rather than using Rye Hill and the A45/A4114 roundabout).
Markings have appeared on the road outside Sainsbury's ready for Millennium place tomorrow.
Road outside Council House finished but not yet reopened.
I've seen some interesting destination boards lately.
Yesterday I saw a Mercedes 0405N showing "7 Brownshill Green via Hearsall Common"
And reocurringly, one of the Tridents has a dodgy front matrix: "Fe side via Chey more." ...Points awarded for the missing letters :P
If I remember correctly that is 4421.
2165 has a similar defect with it's blind.
Quote from: JoNi on March 21, 2014, 08:08:35 AM
If I remember correctly that is 4421.
2165 has a similar defect with it's blind.
Indeed. 2165 has been like that for ages! Surprised this happened to such a new vehicle!
Pool Meadow stand changes have happened but Real Time was switched off as it was showing incorrect stands!
1548 and 1612 are reported to be withdrawn. I thought Coventry were short
Quote from: Ashley on March 24, 2014, 07:35:21 PM
1548 and 1612 are reported to be withdrawn. I thought Coventry were short
1548 is currently out in service!
1548 was in service on the 7 today (30 min past the hour departure from town!
The Trident with defect front display is 4421.
New timetables are now available for routes
1 revised route
4 revised timetable
8/A/9/A revised timetable extra bus on each route.
8/A buses now alternate between routes.
9 and 9A buses remain on either route during M-S daytime.
10 revised timetable re timed to interwork with 23.
11/12 revised route no new timetable yet
18/A - 18A route diversion
23 - revised timetable with reduced layover at Pool Meadow to enable route to share stand with 10.
Quote from: JoNi on March 24, 2014, 09:08:25 PM
New timetables are now available for routes
1 revised route
4 revised timetable
8/A/9/A revised timetable extra bus on each route.
8/A buses now alternate between routes.
9 and 9A buses remain on either route during M-S daytime.
10 revised timetable re timed to interwork with 23.
11/12 revised route no new timetable yet
18/A - 18A route diversion
23 - revised timetable with reduced layover at Pool Meadow to enable route to share stand with 10.
Thanks for this -- quite interesting.
Particularly with the 10/23 arrangement: they will pretty much be running the 23C, but running dead for the outermost section.
And it's good to see steps being taken to get the 8(A) running to time -- at least, whenever I've been on them, they have got seriously behind.
I've had a look around for these timetables though, and haven't been able to find them: do you have a link to them?
The website still shows the old timetables.
When I did a search for route 4 it also returned the 25 because it serves the i4!
We have a saying locally "National Express are so bad you couldn't make it up". I'd use the expression pitiful.
Yes looked since I typed this.
4, 10 and 23 yet to appear.
11/12 has, but Pool Meadow say there is going to be no new leaflet.
"16 Coventry Garage Via City Centre"
Oh and 4418 It was an (11 or 12)? Lost a wing mirror earlier after unloading in Little Park Street (Going towards Pool Meadow). I think the driver managed to repair it though.
Quote from: ben710 on March 26, 2014, 08:16:21 PM
"16 Coventry Garage Via City Centre"
Watch out -- that 16 is driving straight into this thread!
Quote from: JoNi on March 24, 2014, 08:52:20 PM
1548 was in service on the 7 today (30 min past the hour departure from town!
The Trident with defect front display is 4421.
4421 is not a trident it is a Volvo b7tl
Quote from: lauren1993 on March 27, 2014, 07:25:57 PM
Quote from: JoNi on March 24, 2014, 08:52:20 PM
1548 was in service on the 7 today (30 min past the hour departure from town!
The Trident with defect front display is 4421.
4421 is not a trident it is a Volvo b7tl
It was a Volvo B7TL when it was delivered, I would be very surprised if it has had a chassis swop!
Point taken Tony,
Isn't the first time,
It was brought to my attention that I called 4453 a Volvo B7 in the article I wrote about Coventry buses that was published in April 2012 Buses magazine!
Never much liked ALX400s!
NX has made an £100m deal with ADL for Enviro 400 and Enviro 200 vehicles over the coming five years.
These are for Coventry, the West Midlands and Dundee.
(Source: This week's Bus and Coach Buyer magazine)
I am not sure, but this may well already have been reported elsewhere on the forum (I don't keep up with the Birmingham threads).
Quote from: Valandil on March 28, 2014, 08:07:21 PM
NX has made an £100 deal with ADL for Enviro 400 and Enviro 200 vehicles over the coming five years.
These are for Coventry, the West Midlands and Dundee.
(Source: This week's Bus and Coach Buyer magazine)
I am not sure, but this may well already have been reported elsewhere on the forum (I don't keep up with the Birmingham threads).
£100? Bit cheap isn't it? ;) Yes there is a thread for it in the NXWM thread :)
Quote from: Nathan on March 28, 2014, 08:09:45 PM£100? Bit cheap isn't it? ;) Yes there is a thread for it in the NXWM thread :)
Oops, missed the 'm' off the end -- the deal is reported to be worth £100million.
Now amended.
If it doesn't break down 1553 is in service with sky blue front working journeys from city 09:04 18A, 10:24 18, 11:34 18A, 12:54 18
Quote from: JoNi on April 03, 2014, 07:59:35 AM
If it doesn't break down 1553 is in service with sky blue front working journeys from city 09:04 18A, 10:24 18, 11:34 18A, 12:54 18
I haven't seen it yet - but had noticed its transfer on Tony's updates. It was of-course originally based in Coventry.
Quote from: ben710 on March 15, 2014, 11:57:40 PM
If you look at the NX website closely you'll see that road re surfacing in Browns Lane will affect service 7 which will terminate in Allesley Village.
I'm wondering if we'll see our first 7E (or an interesting alternative), and whether drivers will try and be naughty (like in the early 2000's if I remember correctly) and turn at the triangular junction at the top of Allesley Village (rather than using Rye Hill and the A45/A4114 roundabout).
There's an updated announcement now available, as well as mention of a free shuttle bus to the stops that the 7 won't be able to reach:
http://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/temporary-diversions/browns-lane-closure
:o Now here's some sudden news from NX Coventry:
Service Changes from 27th April:
Service 27:
National Express Coventry will no longer operate this service. This service is operated under contract to Centro and an alternative route will be provided by another operator from this date, for details please see the Network West Midlands website (http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/bus/servicechanges/ServiceChangesPages/27April2014.aspx)
Extra journeys on Service 27A:
We are adding extra journeys in the morning peak Monday to Friday from Middlemarch Business Park at 0724, 0754 & 0824 to Pool Meadow Bus Station via Toll Bar End & Whitley.
These extra journeys will offer more buses along London Road and a more direct link from Toll Bar End and Whitley to the City Centre in the morning peak
All other journeys on service 27A are unchanged.
The new timetable for service 27A will be available shortly on our website.
Quote from: JPC on April 09, 2014, 11:12:07 PM
:o Now here's some sudden news from NX Coventry:
Service Changes from 27th April:
Service 27:
National Express Coventry will no longer operate this service. This service is operated under contract to Centro and an alternative route will be provided by another operator from this date, for details please see the Network West Midlands website (http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/bus/servicechanges/ServiceChangesPages/27April2014.aspx)
Extra journeys on Service 27A:
We are adding extra journeys in the morning peak Monday to Friday from Middlemarch Business Park at 0724, 0754 & 0824 to Pool Meadow Bus Station via Toll Bar End & Whitley.
These extra journeys will offer more buses along London Road and a more direct link from Toll Bar End and Whitley to the City Centre in the morning peak
All other journeys on service 27A are unchanged.
The new timetable for service 27A will be available shortly on our website.
Thanks for this: very interesting.
I won't be surprised if the 41 and 27 are merged.
Presumably NXC will cease to run the 27A as well, so only provides a service along Robin Hood Road, St James' Lane/Willenhall Lane & Remembrance Rd in the Willenhall/Toll Bar End area (and nothing at all on London Rd east of the St James' Lane junction).
Quote from: paulb1973 on April 10, 2014, 06:13:00 PM
Presumably NXC will cease to run the 27A as well, so only provides a service along Robin Hood Road, St James' Lane/Willenhall Lane & Remembrance Rd in the Willenhall/Toll Bar End area (and nothing at all on London Rd east of the St James' Lane junction).
If they do cease to run the 27A, it won't be for a good while yet -- in fact they are improving their service on this route at the moment.
I hope that this service is renumbered at some point (unless the replacement for the 27 is also called the 27): the number 22 is available and would be an obvious candidate.
Hmm, the only idea I can think of is extension of Johnsons service 87 to Toll Bar End, :o
Yes? because of the heap of slack time the 87 currently has at Pool Meadow it could not only cover the 27 route at a hourly frequency with just one extra bus but also serve Stonehouse Estate and call via Canley Road or Bransford Ave on a alternate basis at relevant times of the day (i.e between 10am and 3pm) which will allow Centro to abolish the 41 and 47 contract whilst they're at it. 8)
This long route will also reintroduce a 'direct' link from Willenhall to the Rail Station which I think was a big moan when the previous service 11 was replaced with service 3A in February 2012.
NXC's 27A service was and will continue to run as a commercial service, those new journeys have obviously been inserted because the buses would otherwise just be returning dead back into City.
Quote from: JPC on April 11, 2014, 02:27:00 PM
Hmm, the only idea I can think of is extension of Johnsons service 87 to Toll Bar End, :o
Yes? because of the heap of slack time the 87 currently has at Pool Meadow it could not only cover the 27 route at a hourly frequency with just one extra bus but also serve Stonehouse Estate and call via Canley Road or Bransford Ave on a alternate basis at relevant times of the day (i.e between 10am and 3pm) which will allow Centro to abolish the 41 and 47 contract whilst they're at it. 8)
This long route will also reintroduce a 'direct' link from Willenhall to the Rail Station which I think was a big moan when the previous service 11 was replaced with service 3A in February 2012.
NXC's 27A service was and will continue to run as a commercial service, those new journeys have obviously been inserted because the buses would otherwise just be returning dead back into City.
Ah right, so the 27A will be retained by NXC - might seem a bit odd to the general/travelling public, but the loadings on the shorter 27 do seem quite low. The 27A doesn't perform a grand tour of Whitley & Willenhall I seem to recall.
Quote from: paulb1973 on April 12, 2014, 06:21:05 PM
Quote from: JPC on April 11, 2014, 02:27:00 PM
Hmm, the only idea I can think of is extension of Johnsons service 87 to Toll Bar End, :o
Yes? because of the heap of slack time the 87 currently has at Pool Meadow it could not only cover the 27 route at a hourly frequency with just one extra bus but also serve Stonehouse Estate and call via Canley Road or Bransford Ave on a alternate basis at relevant times of the day (i.e between 10am and 3pm) which will allow Centro to abolish the 41 and 47 contract whilst they're at it. 8)
This long route will also reintroduce a 'direct' link from Willenhall to the Rail Station which I think was a big moan when the previous service 11 was replaced with service 3A in February 2012.
NXC's 27A service was and will continue to run as a commercial service, those new journeys have obviously been inserted because the buses would otherwise just be returning dead back into City.
Ah right, so the 27A will be retained by NXC - might seem a bit odd to the general/travelling public, but the loadings on the shorter 27 do seem quite low. The 27A doesn't perform a grand tour of Whitley & Willenhall I seem to recall.
Will agree the 27 having just one stop in the City Centre (and at the far end of Pool Meadow!) isn't very helpful, but a through route to/from the Lower Precinct and Retail Market area would certainly get more people on board.
Stagecoach are going to run the 27!!
Quote from: Beano2211 on April 14, 2014, 12:24:00 AM
Stagecoach are going to run the 27!!
Interesting stuff!
I wonder which depot will run it?
My guess is that it will be put in with the 86's, as I think the (C)61 was.
The revised timetable for the 27A is now available on the Network West Midlands website.
Quote from: Valandil on April 14, 2014, 09:01:21 AM
Quote from: Beano2211 on April 14, 2014, 12:24:00 AM
Stagecoach are going to run the 27!!
Interesting stuff!
I wonder which depot will run it?
My guess is that it will be put in with the 86's, as I think the (C)61 was.
The revised timetable for the 27A is now available on the Network West Midlands website.
I believe it will be Nuneaton.
Quote from: Beano2211 on April 14, 2014, 12:24:00 AM
Stagecoach are going to run the 27!!
Did the former Midland Red South operate minibuses in the Whitley/Stonehouse estate/Toll Bar End areas? - if they did and bearing in-mind Stagecoach's take-over of MRS routes in the early 90's - we have come full circle as it were.
Yeah, Midland Red South "Metro" introduced a service T to Rowley Drive around 1993 then added a variant service R (peak direct journeys) some time later. The T initially covered The Mount, Abbey Road, Middle Ride and Yarningale Rd. Chace and Stonehouse were added to the route at a later stage. (Was the T and R subsidised in any part?)
Before service T Rowley Drive had a 9B service ran by Vanguard (a company also mopped up by Stagecoach) running via Hillfields, Binley Road, Ernesford Grange and Chace Ave, shorter service 9 journeys terminated at Chace Ave.
Services 9/9B and T "rubbed shoulders" for a while around 1993/4 but Chace was seemingly added to service T when the 9/9B was dropped and Stonehouse Estate got a new bus service.
The T and R may have lasted into Stagecoach days briefly, but ended up being morphed into supported service A1 then 11 then 3A then 27 ;)
EDIT:
The outcome of this is rather disappointing considering the idea I had (no grudge against Stagecoach).
Stagecoach service X16 (renumbered from 16) is now confirmed as being extended to Toll Bar End Willenhall (seemingly not serving Toll Bar End) to replace the 27 creating a direct link to Corporation St and Warwick Road so... it's nearly as good as I had hoped for. :)
And finally... potential confusion for London Road where journeys towards Stratford will be heading towards Coventry. ;)
Quote from: JoNi on April 03, 2014, 07:59:35 AM
If it doesn't break down 1553 is in service with sky blue front working journeys from city 09:04 18A, 10:24 18, 11:34 18A, 12:54 18
Managed to find it back in its hometown -
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/13912322473/
Quote from: JPC on April 14, 2014, 11:56:19 PM
Yeah, Midland Red South "Metro" introduced a service T to Rowley Drive around 1993 then added a variant service R (peak direct journeys) some time later. The T initially covered The Mount, Abbey Road, Middle Ride and Yarningale Rd. Chace and Stonehouse were added to the route at a later stage. (Was the T and R subsidised in any part?)
Before service T Rowley Drive had a 9B service ran by Vanguard (a company also mopped up by Stagecoach) running via Hillfields, Binley Road, Ernesford Grange and Chace Ave, shorter service 9 journeys terminated at Chace Ave.
Services 9/9B and T "rubbed shoulders" for a while around 1993/4 but Chace was seemingly added to service T when the 9/9B was dropped and Stonehouse Estate got a new bus service.
The T and R may have lasted into Stagecoach days briefly, but ended up being morphed into supported service A1 then 11 then 3A then 27 ;)
EDIT:
The outcome of this is rather disappointing considering the idea I had (no grudge against Stagecoach).
Stagecoach service X16 (renumbered from 16) is now confirmed as being extended to Toll Bar End Willenhall (seemingly not serving Toll Bar End) to replace the 27 creating a direct link to Corporation St and Warwick Road so... it's nearly as good as I had hoped for. :)
And finally... potential confusion for London Road where journeys towards Stratford will be heading towards Coventry. ;)
First thing to mention - that re-numbering ends the two different service 16's in Coventry, which I suppose is a minor plus point. Stagecoach will run (in Coventry) the following service numbers: 17b, 48/X48, 55/55a, 56, 57, 86, Unibus U1/U2/U12/U17, X15, X16, X17, 18A/X18 & X19. The Stagecoach website doesn't seem to mention the occasional service 17b - but does include an 'X14' (which I don't think exists currently?!)
That diverted X16 [was 16] will head outbound along the London Rd, but as you say once in traverses Willenhall will head 'inbound' for a distance until it reaches the Whitley roundabout, then resume its normal route. This service will still continue to cover parts of Whitley and the likes of Middle Ride in Willenhall etc, as per the current 27? - if so people catching the bus will have to take extra care! (with journeys to Stratford & from Stratford etc available).
EDIT:
It is the X15/X18/X19 group which currently run along the London Road passing Whitley Village (not the current 16 which uses Warwick Road, Kenilworth Road and so on). It is definitely the 16 which is to be diverted?
Quote from: paulb1973 on April 18, 2014, 10:44:55 AM
First thing to mention - that re-numbering ends the two different service 16's in Coventry, which I suppose is a minor plus point. Stagecoach will run (in Coventry) the following service numbers: 17b, 48/X48, 55/55a, 56, 57, 86, Unibus U1/U2/U12/U17, X15, X16, X17, 18A/X18 & X19. The Stagecoach website doesn't seem to mention the occasional service 17b - but does include an 'X14' (which I don't think exists currently?!)
That diverted X16 [was 16] will head outbound along the London Rd, but as you say once in traverses Willenhall will head 'inbound' for a distance until it reaches the Whitley roundabout, then resume its normal route. This service will still continue to cover parts of Whitley and the likes of Middle Ride in Willenhall etc, as per the current 27? - if so people catching the bus will have to take extra care! (with journeys to Stratford & from Stratford etc available).
EDIT:
It is the X15/X18/X19 group which currently run along the London Road passing Whitley Village (not the current 16 which uses Warwick Road, Kenilworth Road and so on). It is definitely the 16 which is to be diverted?
The X14 is a Warwickshire College variant journey, serving Tile Hill, Eastern Green, Holyhead Rd and City Centre - usually a double decker Enviro.
The X16 extends beyond Coventry to Willenhall.
http://www.stagecoachbus.com/PdfUploads/Timetable_53055_16.pdf
(an overwhelmingly complicated two-piece timetable if you ask me ::))
A bit of give and taking allows a reasonable overall service improvement under existing resources...
-The 16 short journeys (City-Kenilworth) are axed in favour of extending the route to Willenhall.
-The 86 short journeys (City-Binley) are axed in favour of extending the route to Kenilworth including an enhanced service for the Dudley Rd/Oaks Rd area in Kenilworth, this replaces nearly all X19 journeys to allow/enhance the X17 to every 15 mins.
Quote from: paulb1973 on April 18, 2014, 10:44:55 AMFirst thing to mention - that re-numbering ends the two different service 16's in Coventry, which I suppose is a minor plus point. Stagecoach will run (in Coventry) the following service numbers: 17b, 48/X48, 55/55a, 56, 57, 86, Unibus U1/U2/U12/U17, X15, X16, X17, 18A/X18 & X19. The Stagecoach website doesn't seem to mention the occasional service 17b - but does include an 'X14' (which I don't think exists currently?!)
That diverted X16 [was 16] will head outbound along the London Rd, but as you say once in traverses Willenhall will head 'inbound' for a distance until it reaches the Whitley roundabout, then resume its normal route. This service will still continue to cover parts of Whitley and the likes of Middle Ride in Willenhall etc, as per the current 27? - if so people catching the bus will have to take extra care! (with journeys to Stratford & from Stratford etc available).
EDIT:
It is the X15/X18/X19 group which currently run along the London Road passing Whitley Village (not the current 16 which uses Warwick Road, Kenilworth Road and so on). It is definitely the 16 which is to be diverted?
The 17b timetable doesn't seem to be under the location 'Coventry', but can still be found under 'Nuneaton'.
I once caught the 17b and got a thorough interrogation from the driver about half-way through the route: he didn't seem best pleased that I intended to travel all the way to Coventry using that service :(
I'm not sure, but think we probably ought to move this discussion to the Stagecoach thread, since we're straying quite far from NXC!
Quote from: Valandil on April 18, 2014, 04:35:54 PM
Quote from: paulb1973 on April 18, 2014, 10:44:55 AMFirst thing to mention - that re-numbering ends the two different service 16's in Coventry, which I suppose is a minor plus point. Stagecoach will run (in Coventry) the following service numbers: 17b, 48/X48, 55/55a, 56, 57, 86, Unibus U1/U2/U12/U17, X15, X16, X17, 18A/X18 & X19. The Stagecoach website doesn't seem to mention the occasional service 17b - but does include an 'X14' (which I don't think exists currently?!)
That diverted X16 [was 16] will head outbound along the London Rd, but as you say once in traverses Willenhall will head 'inbound' for a distance until it reaches the Whitley roundabout, then resume its normal route. This service will still continue to cover parts of Whitley and the likes of Middle Ride in Willenhall etc, as per the current 27? - if so people catching the bus will have to take extra care! (with journeys to Stratford & from Stratford etc available).
EDIT:
It is the X15/X18/X19 group which currently run along the London Road passing Whitley Village (not the current 16 which uses Warwick Road, Kenilworth Road and so on). It is definitely the 16 which is to be diverted?
The 17b timetable doesn't seem to be under the location 'Coventry', but can still be found under 'Nuneaton'.
I once caught the 17b and got a thorough interrogation from the driver about half-way through the route: he didn't seem best pleased that I intended to travel all the way to Coventry using that service :(
I'm not sure, but think we probably ought to move this discussion to the Stagecoach thread, since we're straying quite far from NXC!
Yes, found the 17b there. That X16 timetable is rather complex in layout and point taken re. Stagecoach on this topic area!
Back to NXC...
This evening I had the pleasure of an empty (I was the only passenger) bus ride from near University Hospital to the City Centre on service 1.
I'm not sure where this short working (Not E suffixed though) was supposed to terminate, but I alighted on Cox Street. -The Driver used the "City, Pool Meadow" blind, but I knew to take that with a pinch of salt.
I Just wanted to share this. The 1 is a service which is often forgotten about.
Shelters have started to be erected in Trinity Street.......By digging up the newly laid pavement!!
Quote from: JoNi on April 24, 2014, 11:33:13 AM
Shelters have started to be erected in Trinity Street.......By digging up the newly laid pavement!!
I'll have a wander tomorrow - but I suppose they are of the standard NWM/Centro silver (or blue) design. Nothing too fancy I suspect!
One has been erected half way up Trinity Street.
Open towards street with full width protection at Broadgate end and half width at Pool Meadow end. Roof was being put in this afternoon.
Three shelters now erected in Trinity Street. One has one of those small RTI screens placed by it high up making it unreadable to anyone in the shelter.
One stop lost to taxi pick up point.
Parking sign by bus stop in Fairfax Street increased from two to nine taxis.
All NXC buses still operating from same stops.
Am I right in saying that some NXC timetables changed either today or yesterday?
I'm sure that I saw some changes on the Network West Midlands site, but nowhere else.
I am a bit tied for time right now, so am unable to leaf through and compare timetables time by time.
Would much appreciate it if anyone knows.
Valandil the 27 is withdrawn with revised 27A see attached file.
No new where to catch your bus in the City Centre posters have gone up.
Quote from: JoNi on April 28, 2014, 07:27:59 PM
27 withdrawn with revised 27A see attached file.
Oops, sorry, I should have been a little more specific.
I am aware of the 27(A) changes, but I remember seeing changes to NXC's 16(A) (quite separate from Stagecoach's changes to 16/X16).
Quote from: Valandil on April 28, 2014, 06:41:43 PM
Am I right in saying that some NXC timetables changed either today or yesterday?
I'm sure that I saw some changes on the Network West Midlands site, but nowhere else.
I am a bit tied for time right now, so am unable to leaf through and compare timetables time by time.
Would much appreciate it if anyone knows.
Supposedly the 6/6A, 13/13A, 16/16A and 21 were due amended timetables, I imagine they are very minor timing point tweaks where average Joe passenger wouldn't notice hence a lack of announcement on these.
Quote from: JPC on April 28, 2014, 08:45:40 PMSupposedly the 6/6A, 13/13A, 16/16A and 21 were due amended timetables, I imagine they are very minor timing point tweaks where average Joe passenger wouldn't notice hence a lack of announcement on these.
Ah right, thanks.
I suppose that not notifying people may have some advantages (making a big thing about a small thing).
Though it might be annoying if you turn up for your bus only to find that you've missed it as it now runs even just 2 minutes earlier!
NX fare paying pass holders on service 27 should rightfully feel annoyed they have to pay more too so that they can use the 21 when 27 doesn't run.
Quote from: JoNi on April 29, 2014, 09:33:41 AM
NX fare paying pass holders on service 27 should rightfully feel annoyed they have to pay more too so that they can use the 21 when 27 doesn't run.
Usually there is a facility for a partial refund for the remainder of the time that the ticket was valid, in cases such as this, with the requirement that the pass itself be handed back in.
This happened when the 801 changed hands, but as you say there appears to be no such offer made publically available in this case.
Old 27/A timetable still on display at Pavilions travel centre in Brum. I was able to pick up copies of 360A/C which I take back to Walsgrave Hospital!!!
The temporary bus shelters outside the museum where the 13 to Willenhall stops have been removed. All the shelters in Trinity Street are basically complete but have those dreadful small seats rather than proper chairs.
I have to say that I'm not a fan of the smaller font size used on the Enviros' new displays.
It's much harder to read from a distance than the old!
This topic of new style displays is in another thread, but I agree with Valandil that the displays are too small.
Specifically relating to Coventry 21 branded 4839 has gained this type of display testing the eyesight of Willenhall residents as it was on the 13 today.
4885 was on 18/A today testing the eyesight of Canley residents!
Quote from: JoNi on May 01, 2014, 05:23:20 PM
This topic of new style displays is in another thread, but I agree with Valandil that the displays are too small.
Specifically relating to Coventry 21 branded 4839 has gained this type of display testing the eyesight of Willenhall residents as it was on the 13 today.
4885 was on 18/A today testing the eyesight of Canley residents!
Ah sorry, I don't keep up with the Birmingham threads.
For anyone who hasn't seen this phenomenon, here is an example from today (and bear in mind that this shot was taken from a position quite close to the vehicle!)
(https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2Fsfbk2p.jpg&hash=eca8f2da81504304f3eb50744c8b816585d7518d)
The small display is a fault. None of the other enviros do it apart from 4885 and 4839.
Quote from: ben710 on March 15, 2014, 11:57:40 PM
If you look at the NX website closely you'll see that road re surfacing in Browns Lane will affect service 7 which will terminate in Allesley Village.
I'm wondering if we'll see our first 7E (or an interesting alternative)
I called it.
1636 > 7E this morning. Badly taken picture to be uploaded soon.
E left over from when it worked 5E to Coundon.
Somebody from the local radio station interviewed bus users in the street this morning as none of the new bus shelters erected had been fitted with flags or timetable information which was subsequently broadcast.
I personally saw intending bus users left behind by a Stagecoach X15 in Trinity Street last night despite them signalling it to stop.
A lorry with crane arrived this morning and duly removed the shelter from the lay by opposite the old fire station which was still being served by the 21 to Wood End at the time.
The radio broadcast appears to have spurred staff into action as Local Centro staff have put up sheets of paper with large numbers without destinations in most new shelters detailing which routes were stopping there. No timetables have been posted yet.
This was done about 16:30 with buses still stopping as they have been for several months pending completion of a site meeting between representatives of Centro and the Operators!
Trinity Street was partially resurfaced last night with more to do tonight.
Quote from: JoNi on May 08, 2014, 06:45:13 PM
Somebody from the local radio station interviewed bus users in the street this morning as none of the new bus shelters erected had been fitted with flags or timetable information which was subsequently broadcast.
I personally saw intending bus users left behind by a Stagecoach X15 in Trinity Street last night despite them signalling it to stop.
A lorry with crane arrived this morning and duly removed the shelter from the lay by opposite the old fire station which was still being served by the 21 to Wood End at the time.
The radio broadcast appears to have spurred staff into action as Local Centro staff have put up sheets of paper with large numbers without destinations in most new shelters detailing which routes were stopping there. No timetables have been posted yet.
This was done about 16:30 with buses still stopping as they have been for several months pending completion of a site meeting between representatives of Centro and the Operators!
Trinity Street was partially resurfaced last night with more to do tonight.
The saga of the stops made the main edition of Midlands Today this evening.
Although they correctly interviewed and explained Centro were responsible for the lack of Information, sadly many passengers won't realise this and NX and Stagecoach will get in the neck. Certainly the NX Coventry Facebook page has been putting info on today about the stops.
Quote from: JoNi on May 06, 2014, 10:12:16 AM
E left over from when it worked 5E to Coundon.
Thanks
It certainly spurred people into action.
Contractors were out at 06:20 putting bus stop flags up.
Senior managers were out to pacify customers but we're treated first hand to the fragile state of NX vehicle availability together with service structures using reduced town centre road space.
An accident on the London Road resulted in services such as the 21 late running and managers giving personal apologies to passengers/customers/bus users.
Seen 2171 on Foleshill Road on the 20 earlier with national express West Midlands branding on its front bumper. Any idea why this is ?
Quote from: NXCOV21 on May 12, 2014, 10:17:34 PM
Seen 2171 on Foleshill Road on the 20 earlier with national express West Midlands branding on its front bumper. Any idea why this is ?
You mean like this?
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/2001-2129/2171.html
All branded buses have NX branding on the front bumper (Most if not all NX buses have the NXlogo on the front bumper)
Quote from: Nathan on May 13, 2014, 07:55:25 AM
Quote from: NXCOV21 on May 12, 2014, 10:17:34 PM
Seen 2171 on Foleshill Road on the 20 earlier with national express West Midlands branding on its front bumper. Any idea why this is ?
You mean like this?
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/2001-2129/2171.html
All branded buses have NX branding on the front bumper (Most if not all NX buses have the NXlogo on the front bumper)
He might mean with an NXWM logo rather than an NXC one. No idea why 2171 would have one though
Cheers John :) I'm under the weather today so I didn't read the post properly :( ;)
So has the branding on the front bumper been removed and a NXWM logo has been applied in its place?
Quote from: John on May 13, 2014, 10:32:01 AM
Quote from: Nathan on May 13, 2014, 07:55:25 AM
Quote from: NXCOV21 on May 12, 2014, 10:17:34 PM
Seen 2171 on Foleshill Road on the 20 earlier with national express West Midlands branding on its front bumper. Any idea why this is ?
You mean like this?
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/2001-2129/2171.html
All branded buses have NX branding on the front bumper (Most if not all NX buses have the NXlogo on the front bumper)
He might mean with an NXWM logo rather than an NXC one. No idea why 2171 would have one though
Yes that's what I meant, sorry for any confusion, on looking at the picture the green branding has gone and a national express West Midlands logo put on.
I would imagine because 2171 was sent to Birmingham for repairs after it's accident, they had no nxc logos so they just put an nxwm logo on the new bumper? I know it was off the road last month following a collision
4206 has gained a mega-rear advert about giving blood.
www.weneedyou.co.uk.
Something about being paid to test medicines in Nottingham!
It's on 6/A today.
4206 is on 11 today 11:15, 13:45, 16:15 to Leamington. Lauren keep your eyes peeled.
Quote from: JoNi on May 24, 2014, 09:20:55 AM
4206 is on 11 today 11:15, 13:45, 16:15 to Leamington. Lauren keep your eyes peeled.
I seen it :)
The new small displays are awful!
A driver told me they don't meet regulations (I don't know which ones....ideas anyone?)
They are already being reprogrammed with larger ultimate destinations.
Short workings e.g. Wyken 10E,
Stoke Aldermoor 16
Cardinal Wiseman 8S are large and have no via points.
4839 is back in service! Seen 02/06/2014 on the 21 at around 17:35!
On VOSA yesterday there are some service changes to commence 20 July:
16/A and 21 = route and timetable.
5, 7, 18/A/19, 20/A/E and 27A = timetable.
Of course these are likely to be just Summer timetables but the two route amendments might be linked to each other, take note the following is just me guessing:
Service 16A in the Keresley direction runs Cox St and Fairfax St allowing it and service 16 to stop at Fairfax St stand DG - much closer to Pool Meadow. The completed Trinity Street works allows service 21 in the Willenhall direction to revert to previous route via White St.
4839 failed yet again today!!
This appeared in the news section of the NXC website on 3rd June:
http://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/news/pool-meadow-bus-station-stand-changes-
But this came into effect from March, didn't it?
The URL seems to suggest so, as do the words 'March 2014' on the image.
Finally, 4839 got through a whole day without failing (near enough) I seen her in service at 17:45, still on the 21!! :D
It turns out that there were some changes to the 900 from today.
You would really have had to have gone digging on the website to find this out, but:
"[The 900 will now] use the A45 between the M42 & Stonebridge Island, no longer serving the bus stops on the slip roads in between (jct 6)."
I am willing to bet that there will be quite a few intending customers baffled by their lack of service round about now!
The 900 is also using a new road parallel to the A45 coming out at Elmdon Airport entrance. If you look on Centro's website the link to the Solihull map shows this revised route but not the changes at National Motorcycle museum.
No timetables are available.
Unknown mercedes > D.E.A.D
^Is what I wanted to write in the unusual workings thread. Made me laugh when I saw it.
Quote from: Ben on June 09, 2014, 03:44:45 PM
Unknown mercedes > D.E.A.D
^Is what I wanted to write in the unusual workings thread. Made me laugh when I saw it.
Haha, that's great!
Was it just staggering around the depot with that, or was it actually out and about?
DEAD Merc was 1579 and i had to laugh when i saw it being towed in
Someone had actually usesd the letters on the blinds to display DEAD on all blinds.
Lifted up in the air on the back of a recovery truck was either Volvo B7TL 4424 (or Trident 4224) on Allard Way yesterday [Mon] around 2pm.
Probably 4424 as it was subbed on 16.
4687 seemed to have a front display not working (displaying nothing) today.
4690 is now at Carlyle Bus & Coach
Unlikely to be 4424! 4424 is one of the most reliable buses in the fleet! It was (hopefully) 4224!
Quote from: lauren1993 on June 10, 2014, 11:28:54 PM
Unlikely to be 4424! 4424 is one of the most reliable buses in the fleet! It was (hopefully) 4224!
It was 4424
A used bus shelter has been installed outside Browns reinstating the stop in what is now a one way street eastbound. The road is currently being closed at night to allow resurfacing to take place.
Proper tarmac not bricks that last 5 minutes!
What's the vehicle allocation for the 18/A?
Quote from: Sh4318 on June 11, 2014, 11:37:32 PM
What's the vehicle allocation for the 18/A?
It had all sorts last time I was down there
18/A - 2 doubles, 3 singles, 1 single in peak
Thanks
@JoNi,
@Matt I got 4454 on the 18A. Coventry allocations seem to be random where double deck routes are concerned
Quote from: Tony on June 11, 2014, 08:17:17 AM
Quote from: lauren1993 on June 10, 2014, 11:28:54 PM
Unlikely to be 4424! 4424 is one of the most reliable buses in the fleet! It was (hopefully) 4224!
It was 4424
Do you know what caused the breakdown?
On Wednesday 4839 failed again in kenilworth
R.I.P 1655
Towards Coventry, the 11 and 12 will run through the campus loop in the opposite direction (anti-clockwise) from Monday 30th, with changes to stopping places.
There will be some small changes again when the mini bus station is finished this autumn.
http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/insite/kcm/do/buses_coaches
How come they specifically picked 1655 for what I think is a too early withdrawal?
Quote from: Ashley on July 04, 2014, 08:29:02 PM
How come they specifically picked 1655 for what I think is a too early withdrawal?
No merc withdrawal is too early at the moment
Quote from: Ashley on July 04, 2014, 08:29:02 PM
How come they specifically picked 1655 for what I think is a too early withdrawal?
Have you ever travelled on 1655? If you have then you don't need to ask that question! It was by far the worst Merc in Coventry! It was awfully rattly, loud and slipped gears and could barely get above 30mph!
Quote from: lauren1993 on July 05, 2014, 04:29:54 PM
Quote from: Ashley on July 04, 2014, 08:29:02 PM
How come they specifically picked 1655 for what I think is a too early withdrawal?
Have you ever travelled on 1655? If you have then you don't need to ask that question! It was by far the worst Merc in Coventry! It was awfully rattly, loud and slipped gears and could barely get above 30mph!
It was also an unrefurbished example. A lot of the poorer mark 2s have been withdrawn recently.
Quote from: 4130Quinton on July 05, 2014, 09:20:44 PM
Quote from: lauren1993 on July 05, 2014, 04:29:54 PM
Quote from: Ashley on July 04, 2014, 08:29:02 PM
How come they specifically picked 1655 for what I think is a too early withdrawal?
Have you ever travelled on 1655? If you have then you don't need to ask that question! It was by far the worst Merc in Coventry! It was awfully rattly, loud and slipped gears and could barely get above 30mph!
It was also an unrefurbished example. A lot of the poorer mark 2s have been withdrawn recently.
There will be some more later Mercs withdrawn soon in the shape of WN examples
Quote from: lauren1993 on July 05, 2014, 04:29:54 PM
Quote from: Ashley on July 04, 2014, 08:29:02 PM
How come they specifically picked 1655 for what I think is a too early withdrawal?
Have you ever travelled on 1655? If you have then you don't need to ask that question! It was by far the worst Merc in Coventry! It was awfully rattly, loud and slipped gears and could barely get above 30mph!
Lauren believe it or not I'm a regular visitor to Coventry. I have travelled on 1655 on 14 occassions at WN, WB and CV and I am still adament there are much worse they could have plucked out first
Quote from: Ashley on July 05, 2014, 11:52:47 PM
Quote from: lauren1993 on July 05, 2014, 04:29:54 PM
Quote from: Ashley on July 04, 2014, 08:29:02 PM
How come they specifically picked 1655 for what I think is a too early withdrawal?
Have you ever travelled on 1655? If you have then you don't need to ask that question! It was by far the worst Merc in Coventry! It was awfully rattly, loud and slipped gears and could barely get above 30mph!
Lauren believe it or not I'm a regular visitor to Coventry. I have travelled on 1655 on 14 occassions at WN, WB and CV and I am still adament there are much worse they could have plucked out first
So NX should spend a fortune when a bus has a major componant failure, just to keep it in service for a couple of months?
I have noticed this week that 4689 no longer has the cooling fan stuck on full blast! The cooling fan was full blast constantly from December last year until some time this week, but I first heard today and it is back to quiet! Does this mean nxc are sorting out the loud cooling fan issue on all their b7tls?
Although 4695 still has it stuck on at the minute!
4689 glided past today as did 4424 which also used to roar around. 4421 also used to be noisy.
Summer timetables:
http://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/service-changes/summer-timetable-changes-20th-july-2014
Probably the 16(A) is the most interesting.
The 21(S) timetable is elusive: the link is to the 20(A/E) timetable, and none of the intuitive URL's seem to work.
Yeah I shall commend the service 16/16A changes, they no longer run short to Stoke Aldermoor but continue to Binley (Warks Shopping Park), so a more-or-less doubled daytime service between those points, however the Binley to University Hospital bit is reduced to half-hourly (one 16 and one 16A per hour), I will honestly say a good relevant balanced service pattern overall.
Journeys towards Binley/Hospital will stop at Hales Street instead of inside Pool Meadow bus station to save a few moments on the journey. In theory this means service 21 towards Wood End (which is also route amended) is moving inside Pool Meadow??
There's a couple of Coventry changes on VOSA today to commence 31st August:
- 7 timetable
- 16/16A route and timetable
- 20/20A/20E timetable
- 21/21S route
- 23/23C route
- 27A route and timetable
- 58/23S/58A timetable
- 900/900A timetable
Quote from: JoNi on July 11, 2014, 08:52:45 AM
4689 glided past today as did 4424 which also used to roar around. 4421 also used to be noisy.
About time they sorted it out! 4421 has been noisy for years! I think longer than the rest of them, I don't actually ever remember 4421 being quiet! As well as 4695 and 4687!
Quote from: JPC on July 11, 2014, 06:12:58 PMIn theory this means service 21 towards Wood End (which is also route amended) is moving inside Pool Meadow??
From the new timetable on the Network West Midlands website, it seems that the stops are to stay the same:
http://tinyurl.com/pv9vdfm
Quote from: lauren1993 on July 11, 2014, 08:43:25 PM
Quote from: JoNi on July 11, 2014, 08:52:45 AM
4689 glided past today as did 4424 which also used to roar around. 4421 also used to be noisy.
About time they sorted it out! 4421 has been noisy for years! I think longer than the rest of them, I don't actually ever remember 4421 being quiet! As well as 4695 and 4687!
When I was still in Coventry 5 years ago 4421 was pretty quiet, while 4415 (or 4416?) was the most noisy one that I could hear its sound 3 blocks away from the road!
Quote from: F37 XOF on July 12, 2014, 05:54:34 PM
Quote from: lauren1993 on July 11, 2014, 08:43:25 PM
Quote from: JoNi on July 11, 2014, 08:52:45 AM
4689 glided past today as did 4424 which also used to roar around. 4421 also used to be noisy.
About time they sorted it out! 4421 has been noisy for years! I think longer than the rest of them, I don't actually ever remember 4421 being quiet! As well as 4695 and 4687!
When I was still in Coventry 5 years ago 4421 was pretty quiet, while 4415 (or 4416?) was the most noisy one that I could hear its sound 3 blocks away from the road!
I don't ever remember 4415 or 4416 being noisy. Only 4422 recently, (but is fixed already!), 4424 and 4421. 4416 does hoover but very quietly. :-\
4421 and 4424 roaring around loud as ever yesterday.
I've also noticed 4221 has lost it's LED display and gone back to dot matrix :S
4687 also now gliding round quietly. Seems they are sorting out the cooling fan issue, although 4421, 4424, 4694 and 4695 remain to be sorted. Hopefully they will be done soon.
I went on 1550 this afternoon on the 16. My sympathies are with the driver having to do a shift on it - it clonked when the accelerator was pressed, it clonked when it was released, it clonked when changing up and it clonked when changing down. It was one of the most uncomfortable bus rides I've had for a long time. And it's livery is sky blue, white and rust brown.
Its been about a year since I was on 1550 but its definitely one of the shakier examples. Most Mercs are for me a pleasure to travel on, comfortable seats, swift & smooth acceleration and well ventilated in the hot weather.
Quote from: 4130Quinton on July 28, 2014, 08:37:04 PM
Its been about a year since I was on 1550 but its definitely one of the shakier examples. Most Mercs are for me a pleasure on, comfortable seats, swift & smooth acceleration and well ventilated in the hot weather.
normally i would jump to the mercs defence here but i have to agree that 1550 is a bit boring and not one id miss. This is why i leapt to the defence of 1655 being withdrawn, that had much more go juice
I like Mercs too - can be smooth, quiet and powerful, but they're no longer at their best.
4398 just went up Hearsall lane NIS being drive by a mechanic, any reason why?
Quote from: Ben on August 01, 2014, 04:55:11 PM
4398 just went up Hearsall lane NIS being drive by a mechanic, any reason why?
I'm sure I seen 4398 out on the 7 last night.
Why is the 20A and 20 now interworking in the evening? ???
Quote from: lauren1993 on August 02, 2014, 07:58:36 PM
Why is the 20A and 20 now interworking in the evening? ???
To save buses?
Quote from: lauren1993 on August 02, 2014, 07:19:44 AM
Quote from: Ben on August 01, 2014, 04:55:11 PM
4398 just went up Hearsall lane NIS being drive by a mechanic, any reason why?
I'm sure I seen 4398 out on the 7 last night.
I'm not sure how that correlates really besides an interwork.
Interestingly, from the other thread 4398 was on the 4 today. Are NXC missing a Citaro due to maintenance or something, its seems this has been happening for a while now.
Quote from: Sh4318 on August 02, 2014, 10:12:25 PM
Quote from: lauren1993 on August 02, 2014, 07:58:36 PM
Why is the 20A and 20 now interworking in the evening? ???
To save buses?
Sundays as well so to balance workloads and improve reliability performance, etc. - most interworking occurs for the same reason.
20 now gets an hour and quarter to go to Bedworth and back.
It used to be tight on Sunday during the daytime to do it in an hour.
Also the 20's to Bedworth don't run together with the Stagecoach 48, but still virtually run together with the 48.
With six buses an hour during evenings and Sundays it ought to be possible to run a 10 minute combined service to Bedworth especially in these times of partnership!
Quote from: JoNi on August 03, 2014, 12:22:54 PM
20 now gets an hour and quarter to go to Bedworth and back.
It used to be tight on Sunday during the daytime to do it in an hour.
Also the 20's to Bedworth don't run together with the Stagecoach 48, but still virtually run together with the 48.
With six buses an hour during evenings and Sundays it ought to be possible to run a 10 minute combined service to Bedworth especially in these times of partnership!
Such a partnership will not benefit cross boundary travellers except concessionary or occasional single fare users. :(
I see 9 branded 2160 has gained a maroon diagonal route branding bar like the latest route branded E400s. Assume that orange diagonals will soon be on the 21 branded E400s and maroon on the 8.
Some 20 branded B7s have got lime green stripes, but they haven't all been done yet.
An annual tradition for this service:
Variation Accepted: Operating between Coventry, Pool Meadow Bus Station and Leamington Spa given service number C12/C11/C11X effective from 29-Sep-2014. To amend Route, Stopping Places and Timetable.
I expect this is just the two-way routing at the campus becoming permanent, assuming the roadworks and new bus station are progressing well.
Update on route branding stripes.
9 maroon 2158/60/2/3 done, 2159/61 still to do.
20 lime green only 2168/71/3 still to be done.
No 4, 8 or 21 branded vehicles yet done.
The three Mercedes already withdrawn are now dumped at the back of the front yard taped off to prevent being used.
Names for Coventry enviros
4834 - Rhiannon
4839 - Jessica Jane
4841 - Ava Rose
4842 - Lily Jo
4893 - Aleeyah
Will post the rest when I see their names.
4835 is Susan, 4836 Marie and 4894 is Una.
4892 is Rebecca Lauren
4890 now has a maroon band and a 21 branded Enviro has acquired an orange band.
Quite a few 21s have got orange stripes now leaving only bendy buses on 4 to be done.
A couple more names have appeared but still only on branded buses:
4833 Kelly Louise
4890 Peggy
4451 passed through Sheldon this morning heading back to Coventry @ 10:41
I have been photographing some of the names buses in Coventry, in preparation for a topic for my Coventry album, and I see, Susan,Rhiannon,Ava Rose, Una, and Kelly Louise. What on earth is the reason for this, surely the fleet number is the all-important identification mark.
We enthusiasts might say in conversation, I had a great ride on 4830 into the city last night, the driver did'nt ar'f put his foot down... so would it now be correct to say instead..I had a a great ride on Kelly Louise into the city last night, the driver did'nt half put his foot down. Just a thought.
Apologies:
4840 is Peggy
4890 is Grace Marie.
Blame Eddie Stobart for starting it by naming his trucks with the names of his drivers children.
Route changes from 31st August:
Service 1 (http://nxbus.co.uk/files/NXCoventry/current_timetables/C001_31Aug14.pdf) - Truncated to operate between Chapelfields and Walsgrave (Brade Drive loop), to improve reliability and allow a simplified timetable.
Service 27A (http://nxbus.co.uk/files/NXCoventry/current_timetables/C027a_31Aug14.pdf) - The recently introduced morning inbound journeys will no longer run, however most morning outbound journeys "extend" to Willenhall then operate as 21, relevant through travel permitted. ::)
Wonder when the new envrios on 13 service
going to be put out in service
Quote from: Solo1 on August 16, 2014, 10:12:18 AM
Wonder when the new envrios on 13 service
going to be put out in service
When they're delivered, taxed and ready for service in the coming weeks
Quote from: Ashley on August 16, 2014, 10:22:19 AM
Quote from: Solo1 on August 16, 2014, 10:12:18 AM
Wonder when the new envrios on 13 service
going to be put out in service
When they're delivered, taxed and ready for service in the coming weeks
4983-4985 are already at Coventry garage, 4986/7 were also sighted on the M6 yesterday on delivery. You may find they'll be out a lot quicker than weeks, more likely days.
1594 is just broke down in corperation street on 5.
Quote from: JPC on August 15, 2014, 10:16:02 PM
Route changes from 31st August:
Service 1 (http://nxbus.co.uk/files/NXCoventry/current_timetables/C001_31Aug14.pdf) - Truncated to operate between Chapelfields and Walsgrave (Brade Drive loop), to improve reliability and allow a simplified timetable.
Service 27A (http://nxbus.co.uk/files/NXCoventry/current_timetables/C027a_31Aug14.pdf) - The recently introduced morning inbound journeys will no longer run, however most morning outbound journeys "extend" to Willenhall then operate as 21, relevant through travel permitted. ::)
That ends the Tile Hill - Broad Lane - Allesley Park part of the 1. I suppose loadings weren't that great on that section. Is Narberth Way [I'm assuming the 1 travels in one direction there] still being covered?
Quote from: paulb1973 on August 16, 2014, 01:32:11 PM
Quote from: JPC on August 15, 2014, 10:16:02 PM
Route changes from 31st August:
Service 1 (http://nxbus.co.uk/files/NXCoventry/current_timetables/C001_31Aug14.pdf) - Truncated to operate between Chapelfields and Walsgrave (Brade Drive loop), to improve reliability and allow a simplified timetable.
Service 27A (http://nxbus.co.uk/files/NXCoventry/current_timetables/C027a_31Aug14.pdf) - The recently introduced morning inbound journeys will no longer run, however most morning outbound journeys "extend" to Willenhall then operate as 21, relevant through travel permitted. ::)
That ends the Tile Hill - Broad Lane - Allesley Park part of the 1. I suppose loadings weren't that great on that section. Is Narberth Way [I'm assuming the 1 travels in one direction there] still being covered?
The remaining full length of route 1 will remain the same as far as I'm aware.
I'm still confused about service 1.
Please bear me with me as I'm not sure how to explain this...
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At first glance, having never seen this new timetable before, I was tricked into believing that the 1 will not serve Greyswood avenue heading towards the university hospital; i.e that the buses would only unload there for passengers, and then restarting the return service in chapelfields* because the stop (Greyswood turning circle) is not listed at the top, for the 'towards university hospital'
The above is a strange situation granted but I'm only saying what I inferred on first glance
On second glance, I noticed that the timings would imply that Greyswood avenue turning circle would be served normally as it has been, e.g 'in both directions' (although now as a true terminus).
Could this be a ploy by NX to make the 1 look as if you cannot board at the turning circle, to discourage patronage**? An elderly person (for example) might think that the stop is not listed as an 'outbound' stop (e.g towards Uni hospital) and therefore not get the bus, not realising that the timings imply the stop is served completely (Obviously with exception to the specific shorter journeys), as I noticed on my second glance.
While this may just be an error of not including Greyswood at the top of the timetable, the fact that this could fool people (intentionally or not) really isn't fair.
I am considering contacting National Express to bring this to their attention, unless my understanding is flawed.
Any thoughts?
**Patronage is obviously low anyway, so NX seem to me as if they want to make further cuts to the service.
*Side question: Which stop is the Chapelfields timing point? Chapelfields covers a large portion of the Allesley Old Road, and then Queensland Avenue.
Quote from: Ben on August 16, 2014, 06:26:32 PM
I'm still confused about service 1.
Please bear me with me as I'm not sure how to explain this...
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At first glance, having never seen this new timetable before, I was tricked into believing that the 1 will not serve Greyswood avenue heading towards the university hospital; i.e that the buses would only unload there for passengers, and then restarting the return service in chapelfields* because the stop (Greyswood turning circle) is not listed at the top, for the 'towards university hospital'
The above is a strange situation granted but I'm only saying what I inferred on first glance
On second glance, I noticed that the timings would imply that Greyswood avenue turning circle would be served normally as it has been, e.g 'in both directions' (although now as a true terminus).
Could this be a ploy by NX to make the 1 look as if you cannot board at the turning circle, to discourage patronage**? An elderly person (for example) might think that the stop is not listed as an 'outbound' stop (e.g towards Uni hospital) and therefore not get the bus, not realising that the timings imply the stop is served completely (Obviously with exception to the specific shorter journeys), as I noticed on my second glance.
While this may just be an error of not including Greyswood at the top of the timetable, the fact that this could fool people (intentionally or not) really isn't fair.
I am considering contacting National Express to bring this to their attention, unless my understanding is flawed.
Any thoughts?
**Patronage is obviously low anyway, so NX seem to me as if they want to make further cuts to the service.
*Side question: Which stop is the Chapelfields timing point? Chapelfields covers a large portion of the Allesley Old Road, and then Queensland Avenue.
Straight to the point : "Chapelfields" and "Grayswood Turning Circle" refers to the same terminus/bus stop at Grayswood Avenue/Westbury Road junction - I agree it's wrong having two names for one location.
This is a Centro supported service so changes are surely under their agreement and another factor would be two thirds of the bus stops on the withdrawn section has a more frequent service 360 linking
direct to the hospital.
Quote from: JPC on August 17, 2014, 10:43:16 AM
Straight to the point : "Chapelfields" and "Grayswood Turning Circle" refers to the same terminus/bus stop at Grayswood Avenue/Westbury Road junction - I agree it's wrong having two names for one location.
This is a Centro supported service so changes are surely under their agreement and another factor would be two thirds of the bus stops on the withdrawn section has a more frequent service 360 linking direct to the hospital.
Thanks for clarification regarding the stop, I hope National Express have the foresight to correct that.
I can see it made sense for being shortened, and I always found it interesting how the 1 and the 360 share multiple sections of their routes.
Kind Regards,
Centro will be installing two new bus stop poles next week on Earlsdon Avenue South/North opposite the existing shelters by the clock roundabout, one only assumes these are exclusively for services 18A and W1A so they have a stop closer to Earlsdon Street, perhaps a bit elaborate considering the 18A is on temporary Friargate routing or could next month's service 11/12 amendment be another factor. ???
Quote from: JPC on August 22, 2014, 11:07:29 PM
Centro will be installing two new bus stop poles next week on Earlsdon Avenue South/North opposite the existing shelters by the clock roundabout, one only assumes these are exclusively for services 18A and W1A so they have a stop closer to Earlsdon Street, perhaps a bit elaborate considering the 18A is on temporary Friargate routing or could next month's service 11/12 amendment be another factor. ???
Thinking about it not elaborate at all, I'm sure that its to do with the flags and the 18A being outbound from the city centre and the 11/12 inbound toward the City centre, but sharing the same stop, its probably to just remove this ambiguity.
EDIT: Assuming the 18A continues to serve Earlsdon once any roadworks are finished, this seems quite a logical move by Centro.
Quote from: Ben on August 23, 2014, 05:11:52 PM
Quote from: JPC on August 22, 2014, 11:07:29 PM
Centro will be installing two new bus stop poles next week on Earlsdon Avenue South/North opposite the existing shelters by the clock roundabout, one only assumes these are exclusively for services 18A and W1A so they have a stop closer to Earlsdon Street, perhaps a bit elaborate considering the 18A is on temporary Friargate routing or could next month's service 11/12 amendment be another factor. ???
Thinking about it not elaborate at all, I'm sure that its to do with the flags and the 18A being outbound from the city centre and the 11/12 inbound toward the City centre, but sharing the same stop, its probably to just remove this ambiguity.
EDIT: Assuming the 18A continues to serve Earlsdon once any roadworks are finished, this seems quite a logical move by Centro.
The new poles will be very close to the existing 1/11/12 shelters hence why they are likely exclusive for 18A and W1C (similar to the stop alongside Hearsall Common exclusive for service 1). But you could be correct when you say this could become the permanent 18A route as a stop for temporary routing would/should of been put up in March rather than now, NX runs the 18A commercially apart from the Cannon Park shopping centre loop and a bit of the route from Canley to Tile Hill South which Centro fund.
Quote from: JPC on August 23, 2014, 06:00:06 PM
NX runs the 18A commercially apart from the Cannon Park shopping centre loop and a bit of the route from Canley to Tile Hill South which Centro fund.
Thanks for the additional info there.
Also, this maybe better in a new thread, but when did buses stop advertising themselves as "Subsidised by Centro" on their blinds. I have never noticed any flip dot or LED equivalent of the old rollers. I think it should be brought back.
if anyones interested
4983-13
4984-10
also 4988/4989 are inside CV depot in 13 route branded
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on August 26, 2014, 02:24:53 PM
if anyones interested
4983-13
4984-10
also 4988/4989 are inside CV depot in 13 route branded
Same colour as the Sutton branding by the looks of it. Looks very nice on the sky blue as well
Have any mercs been withdrawn yet at cov?
Quote from: Ashley on August 26, 2014, 05:43:08 PM
Have any mercs been withdrawn yet at cov?
3 mercs withdrawn outside of CV depot guessing for spare parts
1609 was one of them
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on August 26, 2014, 06:53:34 PM
Quote from: Ashley on August 26, 2014, 05:43:08 PM
Have any mercs been withdrawn yet at cov?
3 mercs withdrawn outside of CV depot guessing for spare parts
1609 was one of them
1609 was sold for scrap a while ago
Quote from: Ashley on August 26, 2014, 07:45:06 PM
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on August 26, 2014, 06:53:34 PM
Quote from: Ashley on August 26, 2014, 05:43:08 PM
Have any mercs been withdrawn yet at cov?
3 mercs withdrawn outside of CV depot guessing for spare parts
1609 was one of them
1609 was sold for scrap a while ago
Most likely 1608 which is still in the old colours.
There is a pic somewhere of 1547/1612/1636/1655 outside the garage, I assume those four are still dumped outside.
I just hope they don't get rid of 1678 too soon, it has my favourite seat moquette.
3 mercs withdrawn at CV depot for parts is
1636
1612
1655
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on August 27, 2014, 07:09:29 AM
3 mercs withdrawn at CV depot for parts is
1636
1612
1655
Just seen 1612 being driven along the Coventry Road at Yardley with 'DEAD' in the blinds, heading for Miller Street perhaps?
Quote from: Cheese on August 27, 2014, 10:47:08 AM
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on August 27, 2014, 07:09:29 AM
3 mercs withdrawn at CV depot for parts is
1636
1612
1655
Just seen 1612 being driven along the Coventry Road at Yardley with 'DEAD' in the blinds, heading for Miller Street perhaps?
Possibly Miller Street or Storage/Reserve at closed Lea Hall depot
All withdrawn Mercs parked outside the garage have gone.
Notices have posted in shelter of stop outside museum of Transport stating routes 16/A to Hospital and 21 to Wood End are departing from 13 stop in front.
Had a Gemini on the 23 earlier, which was late going towards the city centre. Not sure they are entirely suited to the route due to the Winsford Avenue Hill, does anybody know if this is causing a problem? -I only ask since I've always been under the perception that Gemini's are more sluggish than Tridents.
Also, I didn't manage to get a photo but a driver on the 18A had the blind set as "A18" I'm sure this one wouldn't cause any confusion, unlike the "18A Tile Hill South Via Hearsall Common" that I see from time to time- which grinds my gears on grounds of ambiguity.
1548 looking good and still in service today through Earlsdon, I was certain we would lose this bus by September 1st.
I understand from the traffic office that 1591 had a minor bump on Friday - has anyone seen it back out yet or is it curtains!
1553 is apparently withdrawn
1591 repaired and out pottering about on 1.
Thank you for the update on 1591.
1558 is parked in garage front yard with no tax discs so appears to have run it's last!
Quote from: JoNi on September 04, 2014, 02:30:30 PM
1558 is parked in garage front yard with no tax discs so appears to have run it's last!
its been withdrawn mate
6021 has gained an orange dot matrix front destination display.
Quote from: JoNi on September 09, 2014, 01:15:03 PM
6021 has gained an orange dot matrix front destination display.
Orange LED?
Yep, showing my age because I have to think twice before calling it a destination blind!
4993 has just been replaced by 4223 on the 13. Driver was having issues with the doors or platform of 4993 it seemed.
The new timetable for the 11/12 has been posted on the NXC website with service cut back to Leamington town centre. Clock face daytime departures and timings in peak short workings basically unchanged.
Apparently 1625 is withdrawn?
Yes its parked in the front yard with it's destination equipment removed.
4420 freshly repainted back in service today on the 23S.
4206 was in Great Bridge 2pm this afternoon, by the Lidl driving towards Dudley - only explanation I can think of is it's been to Carlyle? or (unlikely) going to PE?
Quote from: N94 on September 25, 2014, 04:16:23 PM
4206 was in Great Bridge 2pm this afternoon, by the Lidl driving towards Dudley - only explanation I can think of is it's been to Carlyle? or (unlikely) going to PE?
Hopefully!
That explains why Coventry have kept the mercs because they plan to transfer tridents out?
4417 also back in service today on the 23, freshly repainted.
Today 4407 was involved in a tragic incident whilst on the 21.
R.i.p to the woman.
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/woman-70s-dies-after-being-7852370
1703 failed on service 3 outbound 1452 journey at the Black Prince Avenue lay-by, of course good old 1548 was the bus behind mopping up double passengers for the following hour or two.
I am really interested in this topic mentioned by Lauren...Transferring Tridents out of Coventry depot. Can anyone extend on this subject. Have we too many double-deckers buses at Coventry? Wish we could get our Scania's back at Coventry to replace the 0.405N's, surely they should be replaced.
Quote from: t.w.moore on October 05, 2014, 05:22:08 PM
I am really interested in this topic mentioned by Lauren...Transferring Tridents out of Coventry depot. Can anyone extend on this subject. Have we too many double-deckers buses at Coventry? Wish we could get our Scania's back at Coventry to replace the 0.405N's, surely they should be replaced.
I shouldn't worry about Lauren's fantasy posts. The whole point of replacing Mercs with E400s was Coventry needed more double decks, not less
It was pure speculation as 4206 was noted being out of Coventry, but now I realised it was to have the rear logo applied over the rear advert.
I couldn't agree more about Coventry needing some scanias, the current fleet is shocking, the amount of ADL products is far too dominating and is making the fleet average very unreliable.
And yes the mercs do need replacing because for some reason they have hardly withdrawn any since receiving 13 enviros.
Quote from: lauren1993 on October 06, 2014, 12:06:46 AM
I couldn't agree more about Coventry needing some scanias, the current fleet is shocking, the amount of ADL products is far too dominating and is making the fleet average very unreliable.
I disagree, the Scania's were cramped. Plus, the Volvo's that replaced them are newer, brighter, and have, in my opinion a better internal layout.
Yes fleet variety is nice but practicality takes precedence. Plus who can argue with that solo seat that has a nice forward view ;) (Mercedes/Volvo).
I want most of the Mercedes to be withdrawn, I think NX just want maximum service life out of all of them, because internally, to the average passenger the likes of 1678 still seem in pretty good shape, considering their age.
Just to ask does coventry have a light blue bus pass holder?
Quote from: NXDom on October 08, 2014, 08:08:09 PM
Just to ask does coventry have a light blue bus pass holder?
Yes Dom :)
Quote from: Rob2832 on October 08, 2014, 08:12:15 PM
Quote from: NXDom on October 08, 2014, 08:08:09 PM
Just to ask does coventry have a light blue bus pass holder?
Yes Dom :)
Does anyone have a picture of it?
Quote from: NXDom on October 08, 2014, 08:14:39 PM
Quote from: Rob2832 on October 08, 2014, 08:12:15 PM
Quote from: NXDom on October 08, 2014, 08:08:09 PM
Just to ask does coventry have a light blue bus pass holder?
Yes Dom :)
Does anyone have a picture of it?
I'll try and get a pic on my phone for you Dom :) Give me a few minutes :)
Quote from: NXDom on October 08, 2014, 08:18:03 PM
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Quote from: Rob2832 on October 08, 2014, 08:12:15 PM
Quote from: NXDom on October 08, 2014, 08:08:09 PM
Just to ask does coventry have a light blue bus pass holder?
Yes Dom :)
Does anyone have a picture of it?
I'll try and get a pic on my phone for you Dom :) Give me a few minutes :)
Cheers Mate
Here is the link to the pic Dom - https://www.flickr.com/photos/114083385@N05/15457836546/
Sorry! About the wait.
Quote from: Rob2832 on October 08, 2014, 08:33:39 PM
Quote from: NXDom on October 08, 2014, 08:18:03 PM
Quote from: Rob2832 on October 08, 2014, 08:16:55 PM
Quote from: NXDom on October 08, 2014, 08:14:39 PM
Quote from: Rob2832 on October 08, 2014, 08:12:15 PM
Quote from: NXDom on October 08, 2014, 08:08:09 PM
Just to ask does coventry have a light blue bus pass holder?
Yes Dom :)
Does anyone have a picture of it?
I'll try and get a pic on my phone for you Dom :) Give me a few minutes :)
Cheers Mate
Here is the link to the pic Dom - https://www.flickr.com/photos/114083385@N05/15457836546/
Sorry! About the wait.
Wow! That actually looks nice, can regional nbus travelcard be used to coventry? Might go get one on my day off on friday.
Quote from: NXDom on October 08, 2014, 09:12:47 PM
Quote from: Rob2832 on October 08, 2014, 08:33:39 PM
Quote from: NXDom on October 08, 2014, 08:18:03 PM
Quote from: Rob2832 on October 08, 2014, 08:16:55 PM
Quote from: NXDom on October 08, 2014, 08:14:39 PM
Quote from: Rob2832 on October 08, 2014, 08:12:15 PM
Quote from: NXDom on October 08, 2014, 08:08:09 PM
Just to ask does coventry have a light blue bus pass holder?
Yes Dom :)
Does anyone have a picture of it?
I'll try and get a pic on my phone for you Dom :) Give me a few minutes :)
Cheers Mate
Here is the link to the pic Dom - https://www.flickr.com/photos/114083385@N05/15457836546/
Sorry! About the wait.
Wow! That actually looks nice, can regional nbus travelcard be used to coventry? Might go get one on my day off on friday.
Yes Nbus is valid in Coventry. Went there using an Nbus travelcard at the end of August
Freshly repainted 4401 back in service on the 11 earlier on.
4421 seen today on 11 with an LED side display! :o
Refurbished 4415 back out in traffic on 16/A today.
Quote from: JoNi on October 23, 2014, 09:54:38 AM
Refurbished 4415 back out in traffic on 16/A today.
4415 was also back out yesterday on 11/12 and was actually on the 11X last night as well.
Is 1550 withdrawn? I've been told it has been parked at the back yard outside the garage!
And I have been told 4223 is being fitted with a brand new engine after the engine blew up last Saturday.
Quote from: lauren1993 on October 26, 2014, 03:13:25 PM
And I have been told 4223 is being fitted with a brand new engine after the engine blew up last Saturday.
You have heard wrong. Might be new to that bus, but for it to receive a brand new engine it would need to be converted to Euro 5 with ad-blue etc. Will just be a reconditioned engine
Quote from: Tony on October 26, 2014, 03:28:36 PM
Quote from: lauren1993 on October 26, 2014, 03:13:25 PM
And I have been told 4223 is being fitted with a brand new engine after the engine blew up last Saturday.
You have heard wrong. Might be new to that bus, but for it to receive a brand new engine it would need to be converted to Euro 5 with ad-blue etc. Will just be a reconditioned engine
Wait what? Tony, explain to me what happened please.
Passenger Focus out and about in Pool Meadow giving out survey forms. Should keep the bus stop scores high giving them out in a tidy modern bus station rather than on an estate!
4416 already back in service out today on 6/6A!
6016 seems to have lost the number plate and bumper in the night and is not out today because of this! Strange!
1564 is parked up behind the garage behind 1566 and 1569 but hasn't gained red stickers in windscreen yet.
4419 back out yesterday freshly repainted and refurbished on the 23.
Is 4689 going to be written off? One of the drivers told me it was, I hope it isn't true :(
4893 pictured in perry Barr depot.
Quote from: lauren1993 on November 24, 2014, 08:43:24 AM
4893 pictured in perry Barr depot.
It's been there for nearly a month now, since I first saw it hiding in one of the engineering bays (or it might have been another 8 branded Enviro400 I saw back then)
Saw mechanic driving off in 1656 with red stickers on cab screen and adverts ripped off. Probably the end!!
Quote from: JoNi on November 25, 2014, 09:27:37 AM
Saw mechanic driving off in 1656 with red stickers on cab screen and adverts ripped off. Probably the end!!
Surely they won't withdraw anymore buses at the moment with the amount of buses they have off the road!? There is already a vehicle shortage!
You're right Lauren they haven't withdrawn anymore buses as 1656 is on the 1 today.
There were 13 Mercs in use this morning on the following routes
1-1656,
2-1659,1572, 1703
5-1594,1678,1591,1634,1568,
7-1610,1635,
18/A-1579,1563
Anyone know if 1548 will still in normal service on Friday? Would like my first trip on a CV Merc to be on the last in the old livery
It's still going at the moment.
Quote from: JoNi on November 27, 2014, 08:40:10 AM
It's still going at the moment.
Sorry JoNi it's not, was withdrawn yesterday
Quote from: Tony on November 27, 2014, 09:03:42 AM
Quote from: JoNi on November 27, 2014, 08:40:10 AM
It's still going at the moment.
Sorry JoNi it's not, was withdrawn yesterday
Do you know if 1550/1564 have been withdrawn too? - there has been mention of these two stored outside CV.
Thanks Tony,
ARE 2 901 will have to be content with 4404 on 6/A
I was informed yesterday a bendibus parked at the rear of Wheatley St depot has a red ticket pasted on windowscreen....Does that mean withdrawn? And where is 1548?
Quote from: t.w.moore on December 11, 2014, 12:19:36 PM
I was informed yesterday a bendibus parked at the rear of Wheatley St depot has a red ticket pasted on windowscreen....Does that mean withdrawn? And where is 1548?
All buses 'not fit for service' have the red ticket on the windscreen to make sure they don't go out in error.
1548 moved to Miller Street a couple of days after withdrawal
4398 back out in traffic yesterday, freshly repainted.
Also, any news on 4689? Is it being repaired or written off?
4689 is being repaired, it's being done in Coventry garage.
Timetable racks have been put up in Pool Meadow allowing timetables for all operators to be obtained when the Travel Centre is closed.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/L4xwbc
Quote from: JoNi on December 19, 2014, 01:27:00 PM
Timetable racks have been put up in Pool Meadow allowing timetables for all operators to be obtained when the Travel Centre is closed.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/L4xwbc
I wonder how long it will be until they all end up all over the floor or with an excessive amount of alchol being tipped onto it...
Just the other week, on the 10... A bloke with a bottle of Stella can crashing down the stairs from the top deck of the bus making the alchol smother the whole of the bottom deck!
There is more likelyhood as leaflets are taken they aren't replaced or new editions are not displayed if experiences at places such as University Hospital bode for the future.
Quote from: Adam 404 on December 21, 2014, 11:29:20 PM
Quote from: JoNi on December 19, 2014, 01:27:00 PM
Timetable racks have been put up in Pool Meadow allowing timetables for all operators to be obtained when the Travel Centre is closed.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/L4xwbc
I wonder how long it will be until they all end up all over the floor or with an excessive amount of alchol being tipped onto it...
Just the other week, on the 10... A bloke with a bottle of Stella can crashing down the stairs from the top deck of the bus making the alchol smother the whole of the bottom deck!
Hopefully these will be OK. I was in Pool Meadow about 4 weeks ago and the racks were there then.
Certainly there are already open timetable racks at Stourbridge, Bilston and Wolverhampton Bus Stations, so they must be staying free form vandalism.
New Years day services operated only using Enviros and B7s with no ALX400s or Gemini's used.
Enviros on 6A, 8, 10, 11, 13, 21
B7s on 2, 3, 4, 5, 9, 16, 18, 20/A
Two buses (2154 and 2156) ran on cycle which operated 3 out to Fenside back as 2 then 23 to Allesley Park then 5 to Coundon and back which took two hours to provide an hourly service on each route.
Full university term service from today so back at full stretch.
4203 reached Corporation Street before failing!
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/004e69
Can anybody fill me in on the Holyhead Road accident? The Telegraph seemed vague on vehicle details with the exception that the steering became faulty.
With Walsall garage about to run into Victoria Coach Station next week, here is a Coventry bus there
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/gonebatches/Nationals/1854.html
4689 has re entered service after its recent accident
Seen before taking up service on the 12!
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/19052E
Does anybody Know what has been happening with 2154 latley as i have not seen it
It's been around on 20 today.
Shiny 4450 out on 16 today
Quote from: JoNi on January 27, 2015, 09:22:05 AM
Shiny 4450 out on 16 today
Has this one had a retrim?
Yes its seats have been done, and it's also lost its individuality as the only ALX 400 with a nearside fleet number on the front of the bus in the position of Gemini's and Enviro's shown in photos of the bus in NXC livery on this website.
I've been reliably informed 4450 has still got last years Fare Prices on Near Side and Driver Door!
Just seen 4695 being driven by an engineer with logo and side advert removed, is this one next for repaint?
I was in Coventry briefly on Tuesday and am sure I saw 1678 working the 5 route in full Coventry livery. Can anyone confirm that it has been resurrected or am I mistaken?
I was in Coventry briefly on Tuesday and am sure I saw 1678 working the 5 route in full Coventry livery. Can anyone confirm that it has been resurrected or am I mistaken?
1678 never went away! It's on the 20 which is rare.
4695 is on 11 tonight 16:00 to Leamington.
It was fun in Coventry this afternoon. Around half 2, the traffic lights from the exit for the car park for the West Orchards Shopping Centre were stuck of red for over half an hour, with a O405N stuck at the front. Absolute gridlock ensued, with the Hales Street/Trinity Street/Burges loop completely gridlocked with buses. The traffic was spreading past the bus station on Hales Street and the up to the ring road. It was about 15 minutes before anything actually moved, NX inspectors were instructing buses that could get out of the jam to use the ring road and re-enter the City Centre at the next junction, but it was a good half an hour before it got moving again
Quote from: John on January 31, 2015, 04:21:17 PM
It was fun in Coventry this afternoon. Around half 2, the traffic lights from the exit for the car park for the West Orchards Shopping Centre were stuck of red for over half an hour, with a O405N stuck at the front. Absolute gridlock ensued, with the Hales Street/Trinity Street/Burges loop completely gridlocked with buses. The traffic was spreading past the bus station on Hales Street and the up to the ring road. It was about 15 minutes before anything actually moved, NX inspectors were instructing buses that could get out of the jam to use the ring road and re-enter the City Centre at the next junction, but it was a good half an hour before it got moving again
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@John The O405N was 1579 on the 18
Quote from: John on January 31, 2015, 04:21:17 PM
It was fun in Coventry this afternoon. Around half 2, the traffic lights from the exit for the car park for the West Orchards Shopping Centre were stuck of red for over half an hour, with a O405N stuck at the front. Absolute gridlock ensued, with the Hales Street/Trinity Street/Burges loop completely gridlocked with buses. The traffic was spreading past the bus station on Hales Street and the up to the ring road. It was about 15 minutes before anything actually moved, NX inspectors were instructing buses that could get out of the jam to use the ring road and re-enter the City Centre at the next junction, but it was a good half an hour before it got moving again
Worst traffic lights in the city centre as well. Its about time they were removed.
I have a radical solution, it might not be popular but it might just work.
more to follow after a bit of research
4833 failed to start on 21 outside Museum in Coventry this afternoon had to be towed in.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/9Rd6k7
Quote from: JoNi on February 07, 2015, 06:40:27 PM
4833 failed to start on 21 outside Museum in Coventry this afternoon had to be towed in.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/9Rd6k7
That is not 4833 as 4833 has no branding on the top window along with 4834 and 4842.
Looks like either 4835, 4837 or 4838 due to te black panelling by the doors.
Is the whole batch of Citaro Bendibuses still operating in Coventry - some were reported out of service a while back.
I take my woolly hat off to you Lauren, well spotted it was 4838 when I checked picture of it being hitched to tow truck.
Quote from: don on February 08, 2015, 02:33:04 PM
Is the whole batch of Citaro Bendibuses still operating in Coventry - some were reported out of service a while back.
It appears the citaro bendibuses are more reliable than the scania omnicity bendibuses, so Yes all citaros are currently not withdrawn, however some are off the road for maintenance at the minute, hence double deckers appearing on the 4 lately on weekdays.
Should all be back on the road within the next few days.
Service 11 will be using single deckers mon-fri next week on the late duties due a road closure at Chesford Grange, it's being diverted through Warwick after 10 pm.
Coventry getting 5 Enviro 200s - aren't they lucky! (For the 2 & 3 routes)
Quote from: Tony on February 13, 2015, 01:30:38 PM
Coventry getting 5 Enviro 200s - aren't they lucky! (For the 2 & 3 routes)
"Lucky" is a matter of opinion lol! I really cannot stand the things!
And I'm unfortunate to live in Bedworth, where there are many of them, which I've dubbed "Go-Karts" due to their sound, speed & comfort! One small saving grace is that they're new at least, the older style 60 plate ones at Stagecoach are even more awful than their new equivalents! With any luck they won't ever appear on the 20 route, or I'll have a choice of go-kart on the 20 or go-kart on the 48 :'(
Almost forgot - The pensioners are going to enjoy the heating on them, which is about as effective as an asthmatic breathing on you on a windy day!
Would they consider them on the 23?
Also when?
Much rather have the bus on the left which I've just got off outside my house, and it's better for the environment!
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/F5x5mZ
Thanks Tony, well I have mixed feelings about this, something new is obviously welcomed but I hope this doesn't throw the local users back to the days of cramped B6LEs they used to have on the 3 and previous routes C, 3A, 11, 54, 801 etc.
Service 23 would likely have them on Sundays and some evening journeys if there is no changes to the current running boards.
Quote from: JPC on February 13, 2015, 05:02:54 PM
Thanks Tony, well I have mixed feelings about this, something new is obviously welcomed but I hoping this doesn't throw the local users back to the days of cramped B6LEs they used to have on the 3 and previous routes C, 3A, 11, 54 etc.
Service 23 would likely have them on Sundays and some evening journeys if there is no changes to the current running boards.
I'd say these have even less legroom on them, as I don't recall ever having horribly painful kneecaps on a B6 before where as it's standard practice on these, unless you're short or sit facing sideways that is! The good thing is that NX specify 5 individual seats at the rear which are much comfier than the standard combined 5 seater that Stagey use on theirs.
They also rattle like a hand grenade in a cement mixer, so pack earplugs! Or just make use of the Metro papers onboard as I usually do...
The good thing is that it'll be harder to run early in one as it takes 3 gears to finish pulling off in one, I suppose that doesn't matter too much in the estates. I'd love to watch one take the hill up to Allesley Park though! I had a Stagey one the other week go up a hill in Baddesley Ensor that's a lot longer but not as steep at all and it managed gear 1 the whole way up, foot to the floor, I was genuinely shocked, even B6 and Merc 709D have gone faster up that hill!
I think the overall passenger consensus is going to be 50/50, I don't think people are going to like being left in the pouring rain while they watch their bus make it's way at 7mph to them to then sit in the freezing cold with broken knee caps, but I think others will be glad to have something new on their service which is always a bonus, even if they are awful.
There's only five buses for five workings so other buses are likely to turn up. Would be surprised if E200 could cope with loading at 09:30.
The B7s from the 20 could still be used on Sunday.
Will these be branded?
Also, how long are they going to be?
If only it was enviro 300 :) (slightly better)
Terrible, it's actually laughable.
1680 has just left to meet its maker
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/958aU5
Leaving just 1558 and 1625 parked at the front.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/A3267g
Quote from: JoNi on February 18, 2015, 08:14:51 AM
1680 has just left to meet its maker
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/958aU5
Leaving just 1558 and 1625 parked at the front.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/A3267g
Was that PVS collecting that Merc?
Quote from: paulb1973 on February 18, 2015, 02:19:02 PM
Quote from: JoNi on February 18, 2015, 08:14:51 AM
1680 has just left to meet its maker
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/958aU5
Leaving just 1558 and 1625 parked at the front.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/A3267g
Was that PVS collecting that Merc?
It will either be PVS or Ripley. They are working together to clear the latest Merc sales
It was Wigley, tow truck (reg W16 TOW!) arrived last night. Left under tow with front wheels removed from bus (dunno if that's usual).
Quote from: JoNi on February 18, 2015, 03:03:42 PM
It was Wigley, tow truck (reg W16 TOW!) arrived last night. Left under tow with front wheels removed from bus (dunno if that's usual).
It is normal. The tyres are leased, so Wigley/PVS will put slave wheels with their own tyres on the back, but don't bother with the front as it is off the ground anyway
Thanks Tony, When I saw the lorry arrive yesterday, 1680 was standing waiting to go. Still light at ten past five!
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/w28A9p
Apologies if it's been mentioned previously - but does anyone know if Coventry run the Bendy buses on the 4 on Sundays? I'm guessing probably not, but if anyone could confirm?
No they dont usually volvo single deckers
Quote from: Twi on February 21, 2015, 06:37:53 PM
No they dont usually volvo single deckers
Thought that was probably the case. Thanks.
All ten bendybuses in use this morning. Eight 4s and two 21s.
4210 has gained yellow front electronic destination display
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/gr455Q
6014 rear number plate has been moved into the position where the rear route number usually is.
4206 has regained it's rear advert this lunchtime!
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/m9550a
2155 has lost the full rear advert but hasn't gained an advert frame so could be used again. https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/64Tj89
Anyone know the route allocations for Sunday? I take it Tridents/ALX B7s and Mercs aren't used?
1558 left for Barnsley today
BV63EFL. NXC Ford Transit. Just seen in West Brom
Observations of Sunday allocations reveal double deck types vary from week to week on 11/12 but routes are either double or single. Mercs/Bendybuses are not used.
Trident/Gemini - 6/A, 18
All types of double decker - 11/12
Enviro - 8/A (branded) 10, 13 (branded) , 21 (branded)
B7 (20 Branded) 2/3/23, 20
B7 (9 Branded) 5, 7, 9/A
B7 unbranded 4, 16/A
Quote from: JoNi on March 03, 2015, 03:13:57 PM
Observations of Sunday allocations reveal double deck types vary from week to week on 11/12 but routes are either double or single. Mercs/Bendybuses are not used.
Trident/Gemini - 6/A, 18
All types of double decker - 11/12
Enviro - 8/A (branded) 10, 13 (branded) , 21 (branded)
B7 (20 Branded) 2/3/23, 20
B7 (9 Branded) 5, 7, 9/A
B7 unbranded 4, 16/A
Thanks for that JoNi, I hope to take another trip to Coventry this Sunday
I believe someone said they wanted a final photo of 1548.
It is currently parked in the top yard at Miller Street easily photographable from the road without trespassing.
But be quick some of the buses parked behind it are due to go to PVS soon so it will be moving again!
Quote from: Tony on March 05, 2015, 08:57:02 PM
I believe someone said they wanted a final photo of 1548.
It is currently parked in the top yard at Miller Street easily photographable from the road without trespassing.
But be quick some of the buses parked behind it are due to go to PVS soon so it will be moving again!
Where's Miller street
It was t.wmoore
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=3578.msg131201#msg131201
Miller Street is north of the city, east of Jewellery Quarter. Private property so don't go into the compound area if you ever go.
871
http://malsfotofile.smugmug.com/Other-2/M6-Motorway/30654943_RHpKL3#!i=3928537656&k=kRsFB8v
Quote from: pb2012 on March 13, 2015, 09:01:36 PM
871
http://malsfotofile.smugmug.com/Other-2/M6-Motorway/30654943_RHpKL3#!i=3928537656&k=kRsFB8v
when will 871 be running in Coventry routes?
By the look of it driver training with 871 will start today
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/62fn46
Two more E200's arrived yesterday, I think they were 872 & 873.
Quote from: Beano2211 on March 19, 2015, 07:29:10 AM
Two more E200's arrived yesterday, I think they were 872 & 873.
It is, 874 should arrive beginning of next week with 875 slightly delayed. They will probably enter service on the 31st March
874 delivered to Coventry this morning.
Is there any bendies left at Coventry if so what routes are they on
Quote from: Rhys S on March 21, 2015, 08:59:44 AM
Is there any bendies left at Coventry if so what routes are they on
Used on the 4 service. Check the main site for the fleet numbers to help answer your question.
Quote from: Rhys S on March 21, 2015, 08:59:44 AM
Is there any bendies left at Coventry if so what routes are they on
There is a few bendys on 4 today
6015 is one of them
4453 (100 years livery) on 10
Quote from: Rhys S on March 21, 2015, 08:59:44 AM
Is there any bendies left at Coventry if so what routes are they on
Up to 2 bendies can be found on the 21 in addition to the 4.
4 has six Bendys and 4451 and 4410 and one (6015) on 21 today.
Another new bus for senior pass holders
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/fUN05s
Quote from: pb2012 on March 13, 2015, 09:01:36 PM
871
http://malsfotofile.smugmug.com/Other-2/M6-Motorway/30654943_RHpKL3#!i=3928537656&k=kRsFB8v
Was in Coventry three times today, saw 871 which could of been on type training
All five new buses have started on 2/3
873 was not used initially with 2174 covering the working.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/f444i7
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/uk1J98
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/69338d
1656 is parked behind the garage seemingly withdrawn having run it's last trip on 23.
I photographed all five 871-875 new Coventry buses on the 2/3 services today. Two drivers at the wheel of the buses I travelled on told me that they were very nice buses to drive. I did not like the high step in the gangway, otherwise the buses were very smooth, and did not sound like 'shuttle buses' as wwas described on this forum.
Only four new buses started today.
4206 covered for 873
872 was changed over with 1594 at 08:32.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/M55hC3
873 is now back in service replacing 4206.
Yesterday I thought I saw a Gemini on the 4, and I'm certain I saw an 21 branded Enviro on the 23.Joni got there first in the other thread. Sorry for wasting a post.
Quote from: JoNi on March 30, 2015, 01:08:18 PM
30/3/2015
2 - 2174 until 873 was available
4 - 4694
12am - 4890 (8 )
16/A - 1703, 4886
18/A - 2174 replaced 4404
23 - 4888
This evening I managed to catch brand new enviro 200 874 on the 23 and I must say they're very nice buses indeed! They smell amazing and incredibly smooth! 9/10!
I'm very pleased Coventry are getting an additional spare bus for route 2/3.
Numbered 876 it will carry the new National Express Coventry livery, seen here parked on delivery.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/TP6033
It will have all the things I expect from a modern bus,
Pleasant interior,
Cumfy seats in warm welcoming colour,
Large signs on cove panels including displays showing all stops on route, Coventry related features and contact details
Audio visual next stop information,
Clock
Racks for timetables and publicity
Wi-fi,
Power point for charging phone,
Clear destination displays front and rear with large route numbers.
Sign to show how many seats are available upstairs
It will have a large NX bus operator of year display on the rear with a space for the year to be inserted.
Quote from: JoNi on April 01, 2015, 08:34:21 AM
I'm very pleased Coventry are getting an additional spare bus for route 2/3.
Numbered 876 it will carry the new National Express Coventry livery, seen here parked on delivery.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/TP6033
It will have all the things I expect from a modern bus,
Pleasant interior,
Cumfy seats in warm welcoming colour,
Large signs on cove panels including displays showing all stops on route, Coventry related features and contact details
Audio visual next stop information,
Clock
Racks for timetables and publicity
Wi-fi,
Power point for charging phone,
Clear destination displays front and rear with large route numbers.
Sign to show how many seats are available upstairs
It will have a large NX bus operator of year display on the rear with a space for the year to be inserted.
Haha nice try! April fools?
Quote from: JoNi on April 01, 2015, 08:34:21 AM
I'm very pleased Coventry are getting an additional spare bus for route 2/3.
Numbered 876 it will carry the new National Express Coventry livery, seen here parked on delivery.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/TP6033
It will have all the things I expect from a modern bus,
Pleasant interior,
Cumfy seats in warm welcoming colour,
Large signs on cove panels including displays showing all stops on route, Coventry related features and contact details
Audio visual next stop information,
Clock
Racks for timetables and publicity
Wi-fi,
Power point for charging phone,
Clear destination displays front and rear with large route numbers.
Sign to show how many seats are available upstairs
It will have a large NX bus operator of year display on the rear with a space for the year to be inserted.
It'd be a case of "Metrobus" returns to Coventry then if that entered service, just the Go Ahead company not MCW!
Quote from: lauren1993 on April 01, 2015, 12:11:09 AM
This evening I managed to catch brand new enviro 200 874 on the 23 and I must say they're very nice buses indeed! They smell amazing and incredibly smooth! 9/10!
I caught 873 on the 2 today and agree entirely,
I also think that the short wheelbase is excellent for the routes they're operating.
I'm guessing eventually they'll find their way on to routes like the 18A or 1.
Only critisism is the fact that there are no front facing seats at the front, like the double deckers. :P
871,874,875 on 2
873 is parked outside of pool meadow depot
872 was fifth bus started 10:12, two Brummie spotters went home happy.
1568 is now parked in front of 1656 on the Swanswell side of the depot.
Quote from: JoNi on April 04, 2015, 07:06:47 PM
1568 is now parked in front of 1656 on the Swanswell side of the depot.
Withdrawn then?
How many Merc's are left? When is 1678 likely to be withdrawn? (My favourite/best merc in the fleet).
Thanks
Quote from: Ben on April 04, 2015, 08:09:31 PM
Withdrawn then?
How many Merc's are left? When is 1678 likely to be withdrawn? (My favourite/best merc in the fleet).
Thanks
I make it 12 with 1568 & 1656 withdrawn
Other than 1678 only 1572 wasn't used today.
All 2/3s are 20 branded buses today as is the norm for Sundays.
All 2/3s were 20 branded buses today until one was changed over later. 2171 which had been off the road for a while following an accident was one of them.
Repainted 4408 has re entered service as a changeover on route 10.
Major roadworks will take place in Corporation Street until November as part of the council's continuing public realm works (don't ask!). Most "eastbound" services will be affected particularly cross city routes such as 6/A, 8/A, 9/A, 10, 21.
Full details on National Express Coventry website. Council only made decision to go ahead last Tuesday
http://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/route-changes-in-coventry-city-centre-sunday-12th-april-2015
Centro have replaced bus stops where routes have been diverted in the City Centre.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/r57LBe
Assistance is being given by staff in orange hi vi's in Corporation Street.
Half an hour ago 874 was parked up in the lay by on Black Prince Avenue ''Not in Service'' but facing towards City Centre. (?)
Quote from: JPC on April 16, 2015, 04:21:43 PM
Half an hour ago 874 was parked up in the lay by on Black Prince Avenue ''Not in Service'' but facing towards City Centre. (?)
Odd, I had it on the 2 earlier. Possible breakdown.
1634 is apparently parked behind the garage with the other two withdrawn buses.
I've not seen it mentioned (nor is search throwing it up) but 4423 seems to have had an LED blind fitted to it's side only, oddly. It really does look out of place. No complaints though, at least it works!
Quote from: Ally on April 18, 2015, 02:30:34 AM
I've not seen it mentioned (nor is search throwing it up) but 4423 seems to have had an LED blind fitted to it's side only, oddly. It really does look out of place. No complaints though, at least it works!
4421 is the one with LED side destination.
Quote from: lauren1993 on April 18, 2015, 07:32:19 PM
4421 is the one with LED side destination.
Ah thank you, 4421 sorry! I saw just about all of the ALX400 B7TLs that day so it was hard to remember which it was :)
4153, 4162 and 4181 are on loan at coventry
Quote from: Beano2211 on April 21, 2015, 03:16:35 PM
4153, 4162 and 4181 are on loan at coventry
1. Will they be painted Sky Blue?
2. When are they going out of the garage onto routes?
3. Are they going to be on a specific roite or just any route?
Thanks ;)
Just a temporary loan so not painted. Be used on any double deck working and at least one is on 12's now
NXWM Tridents all out on daytime workings
4153 - 6/A then 12 daytime
4162 - 16/A
4181 - 6/A
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/4y0v8i
Quote from: Beano2211 on April 21, 2015, 03:16:35 PM
4153, 4162 and 4181 are on loan at coventry
Anyone know what they've replaced or are covering for?
Quote from: don on April 22, 2015, 09:41:32 AM
Anyone know what they've replaced or are covering for?
4322 has left for Wolverhampton, one of these Tridents might be covering for that one.
Have any Mercedes been withdrawn lately?
Quote from: Beano2211 on April 21, 2015, 03:16:35 PM
4153, 4162 and 4181 are on loan at coventry
here is 4162 in Coventry https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/16616562023/
Love the expression on the cab drivers face!
For anyone coming to see vehicles loaned from Brum
4153 - 7/12 am peak
4162 - 6/A
4181 - 23 pottering up and down to Allesley Park
4153 23S/12 tonight
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/4eUf5G
The three Tridents are in Coventry until Saturday drivers told me today..they are in Coventry due to staffing shortages at the Wheatley St. depot. The drivers also tell me the three buses are in good condition. I photographed them on 6,11 and 23 service am.
Quote from: t.w.moore on April 23, 2015, 06:27:20 PM
The three Tridents are in Coventry until Saturday drivers told me today..they are in Coventry due to staffing shortages at the Wheatley St. depot. The drivers also tell me the three buses are in good condition. I photographed them on 6,11 and 23 service am.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but how can the vehicles help with staff shortages? Also, where is the Wheatley St. depot?
Engineering staff shortages to fix them.
Mind you the root cause is the components failing!
Talking of components failing 874 expired outside Pool Meadow at 08:40 grinding to halt with a loud clanking sound and steam coming out from underneath. Mansfield's attended and removed it at 11:30.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/181nSc
Quote from: Bryan on April 24, 2015, 04:43:35 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but how can the vehicles help with staff shortages? Also, where is the Wheatley St. depot?
Wheatley Street is pretty much attached to Pool Meadow, as you enter Pool Meadow by bus using the main entrance (not the newer one), it's on the right turn just behind the Bingo Hall.
On the note of 874 failing, are the Enviro 200s going to follow their predecessors' (O405N's) tradition of only breaking down in awkward places? ;)
4395, 4616 and 4666 are in Coventry on loan.
4616 and 4666 went straight into service.
4616 did a school bus and is doing a couple of journeys on 5 to Coundon.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/HJq59b
4666 did 10S and is doing 17:15 12 to University.
I've heard 874 is receiving a new engine! :o
The bus is only a month old so surely this can't be true!?
Is it me or has it became increasingly common for bus drivers to change their destination display from University of Warwick to Coventry before actually arriving into the campus causing everyone to get in the bus. The bus driver then drives the bus to the next stop opposite the computer science building and sits there for a while which I presume this is the bus driver taking their rest. There were some complaints that stagecoach towards Leamington Spa were doing the same thing.
Isn't it more convenient for everyone that bus driver puts their bus out of service before arriving the campus and take their rest opposite the CS building? They can go round the loop again once their rest's up and put the bus in service.
So far
4616 on 6/A
4666 on 16/A
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/12E3tA
Quote from: JoNi on April 29, 2015, 07:10:38 AM
So far
4616 on 6/A
4666 on 16/A
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/12E3tA
4666 has had a good day out. It did the 2045 departure from the burges to keresley village. Didn't see 4616 this evening so might have been swapped.
Apologies if it was mentioned before but I got lost with the thread; Why are 4616 etc in Coventry?
I had an unexpected trip on 4616 earlier today (Although I didn't manage a decent photo).
I'm going to have to do a double take when waiting for the 900 now...
Quote from: Ben on April 29, 2015, 09:54:56 PM
Apologies if it was mentioned before but I got lost with the thread; Why are 4616 etc in Coventry?
I had an unexpected trip on 4616 earlier today (Although I didn't manage a decent photo).
I'm going to have to do a double take when waiting for the 900 now...
Coventry have a number off Buses off road atm :)
4616 ran on 6/A until about 18:00.
It seen here being photographed by a couple of local characters at about half four en route to Tanyard Farm!
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/69hEJr
Not sure 4395 arrived?
The new ADL single deckers on 2/3 have gained rear adverts.
4616 and 4666 both on 16/A today.
Are 4395,4616,aand 4666, replacements for 4153,4162 and 4181, or is it we have 6 Birmingham buses in Coventry now? If so are they from the same source, Birmingham Central?
Quote from: t.w.moore on April 30, 2015, 08:02:20 PM
Are 4395,4616,aand 4666, replacements for 4153,4162 and 4181, or is it we have 6 Birmingham buses in Coventry now? If so are they from the same source, Birmingham Central?
4395 is not in Coventry, In service at YW. 4153/62/81 have already been mentioned as being back at BC. Main site will give you reference to where any bus is allocated
Are 4616 and 4666 staying at Coventry for a specific period of time?
4666 was on 10 earlier but changed over. 4616 on 6/A.
Quote from: t.w.moore on April 30, 2015, 08:02:20 PM
Are 4395,4616,aand 4666, replacements for 4153,4162 and 4181, or is it we have 6 Birmingham buses in Coventry now? If so are they from the same source, Birmingham Central?
for some bizzare reason 4153,4162 and 4181 were returned to BC and another 3 borrowed beats me why no one seems to know
They must have heard you Ben see unusual workings
Mind you Brownshill Green always did have the newest buses ;)
Will Coventry be getting a new livery along side nxwm and dundee. Or are they going to be crimson too?
10th May services changes (http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/bus/servicechanges/ServiceChangesPages/10May2015.aspx) in Coventry have been delayed for at least a week due to the delayed completion of Warwick Road/Rail Station highway works.
The 9 route is being adjusted to run in both directions through Finham and Green Lane, I was thinking this was going to be via the reverse of the inbound route until Green Lane (Gretna Road) then a mini CW loop via Kenpas Highway's service road and Bathway Road back to Green Lane to resume current inbound route, However Finham Residents Association (http://www.finham.org.uk/) allude the service is also extended to serve the Leasowes Avenue loop.
So in theory and despite no suggestion of such changes on service 9A it could well be shortened to Mantilla Drive (ACW loop like former 14 or 64 service) and maybe reduced to a Mon-Sat daytime operation,
All will be revealed at the appropriate time I suppose.
Quote from: JPC on May 07, 2015, 09:07:23 PM
10th May services changes (http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/bus/servicechanges/ServiceChangesPages/10May2015.aspx) in Coventry have been delayed for at least a week due to the delayed completion of Warwick Road/Rail Station highway works.
The 9 route is being adjusted to run in both directions through Finham and Green Lane, I was thinking this was going to be via the reverse of the inbound route until Green Lane (Gretna Road) then a mini CW loop via Kenpas Highway's service road and Bathway Road back to Green Lane to resume current inbound route, However Finham Residents Association (http://www.finham.org.uk/) allude the service is also extended to serve the Leasowes Avenue loop.
So in theory and despite no suggestion of such changes on service 9A it could well be shortened to Mantilla Drive (ACW loop like former 14 or 64 service) and maybe reduced to a Mon-Sat daytime operation,
All will be revealed at the appropriate time I suppose.
Yes the 9 will serve Leasowes Ave, Finham residents have wanted a service both ways on Green Lane since the 15A/C finished, the short lived 9C was rarely used.
Does anyone know the PVR of the 11&12?
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on May 10, 2015, 12:49:02 PM
Does anyone know the PVR of the 11&12?
I have some old data saying the PVR is 12 vehicles, no idea if that's the case now.
During daytime Mon - Sat there are five buses on 11 and three buses on 12. There are up to eight peak buses during University terms. but these also run on school routes and services 7, 10 and 19, but individual journeys are also worked by buses from routes 5, 6 and 20 at least!!
Quote from: Beano2211 on May 07, 2015, 10:20:54 PM
Yes the 9 will serve Leasowes Ave, Finham residents have wanted a service both ways on Green Lane since the 15A/C finished, the short lived 9C was rarely used.
NXC confirms this 9 and 9A service change (http://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/service-changes/coventry-service-changes-from-sunday-17th-may-2015) today, they'll interwork at Leasowes to maintain workload balance.
No idea if Wainbody deserves a doubled level of service but as it's under existing resources I'll not be complaining.
The suggestion of short journeys to Mantilla Drive was rather short-sighted of course ;D.
Thanks for the tip JPC. I was under the impression that the 8A was being extended to Bell Green, obviously this won't be the case.
874 back in action.
Does Coventry's Bendi buses fair better than PBs Scanias or are they due for withdrawal soon?
Quote from: Chris2301 on May 26, 2015, 10:46:51 AM
Does Coventry's Bendi buses fair better than PBs Scanias or are they due for withdrawal soon?
That's a fair point especially as Coventry's are older
4423 on the 1E to Chapelfields - is that unusual?
No, it's on a working that's usually a school bus.
Quote from: JoNi on May 29, 2015, 01:08:01 PM
No, it's on a working that's usually a school bus.
Cheers
@JoNi
Quote from: the trainbasher on May 29, 2015, 12:17:17 PM
1E to Chapelfields
9 months since this route was shortened to Chapelfields and the electronic blind destinations still not updated. ::)
If E suffixes hadn't been inflicted on Coventry there wouldn't have been a problem in the first place!
4522 spotted in Coventry being driven by an engineer.
Quote from: lauren1993 on June 04, 2015, 03:10:47 PM
4522 spotted in Coventry being driven by an engineer.
Probably here for mot, they do them on Thursdays.
A driver got on the 23 this morning and I overheard him saying that from what he has heard, the first of 2 E400s to transfer to CV is due today. The 2 transferring are 4769, and possibly 4766 (didn't quite catch that one so it might be wrong).
Also mentioned that they will have 11/12 branding, and will have partially leather seats like the 900, though the person he heard this off wasn't 100% about this.
Obviously I don't know how true any of this is, or if I heard correctly, but it does fit with what has been mentioned here before. Would be interesting to see what colour they choose for the branding, I think purple would look quite good.
Quote from: S570 on June 08, 2015, 02:14:12 PM
A driver got on the 23 this morning and I overheard him saying that from what he has heard, the first of 2 E400s to transfer to CV is due today. The 2 transferring are 4769, and possibly 4766 (didn't quite catch that one so it might be wrong).
Also mentioned that they will have 11/12 branding, and will have partially leather seats like the 900, though the person he heard this off wasn't 100% about this.
Obviously I don't know how true any of this is, or if I heard correctly, but it does fit with what has been mentioned here before. Would be interesting to see what colour they choose for the branding, I think purple would look quite good.
Very little if that is correct!
4766 & 4769 are both in service at Walsall today. My postings in the repaints might actually give a clue, but it is unlikely that one will arrive today although it is painted.
I guess its just garage rumours then, I was just repeating what I heard. He did say only one was ready and he didn't know which, so I probably misheard the fleet number (at first I thought he said 4762...).
I'll admit I would have been surprised had one turned up today as it hadn't been mentioned on here already. And I would be even more surprised if they turn up in Coventry with part leather seats.
Didn't think to look at the repaints thread. I'm guessing 4763 is the completed one, with 4764 to follow?
A number of people have told me that Bendybus 6012 has been withdrawn as it has defects which are not economic to repair. Is this true?
I was told this aswell.
No, 6012 is at evobus being repaired as it is covered by the warranty.
Quote from: lauren1993 on June 20, 2015, 06:08:10 PM
No, 6012 is at evobus being repaired as it is covered by the warranty.
What kind of warranty? The bus is twelve years old!
Quote from: Stu on June 20, 2015, 07:24:41 PM
What kind of warranty? The bus is twelve years old!
Doesn't mean the parts that have broken or the workmanship is 12 years old
Can someone please tell me the last day a scania was officially in service in Coventry? Much appreciated :)
4763 has arrived at Coventry garage.
Quote from: Beano2211 on June 23, 2015, 04:36:53 PM
4763 has arrived at Coventry garage.
I think you have made a presumption there
4764 ;)
Quote from: Beano2211 on June 23, 2015, 06:26:23 PM
Yes 4764 I was driving when it passed :o
4763 is still on the pits at Walsall, 4766 now in paint and will be the third
How many of these enviros are Coventry getting?
Quote from: JoNi on June 20, 2015, 10:46:29 AM
A number of people have told me that Bendybus 6012 has been withdrawn as it has defects which are not economic to repair. Is this true?
Just been out on a road test from Evobus
874 on the 18
4454 on the 8
Quote from: Tony on June 26, 2015, 03:40:27 PM
Just been out on a road test from Evobus
6012 now back at Coventry garage
Went round station to catch train to Nuneaton only to find it was NXC Enviro 4983!
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/j6P348
Any guesses what the ex Walsall Enviros will replace - my guesses:-
A) probable - Mercedes 0405N
B) possible - Bendibus
C) long shot - Geminis (to Dundee or AG as President replacements)
Quote from: don on July 05, 2015, 03:02:11 PM
Any guesses what the ex Walsall Enviros will replace - my guesses:-
A) probable - Mercedes 0405N
B) possible - Bendibus
C) long shot - Geminis (to Dundee or AG as President replacements)
I would guess it's the long shot.
Definitely A (mercs)
Hopefully C because I hate geminis
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/01281e
Real time seen in shelter close to Coventry council house!
I'll post this here, but I heard through the grapevine that there was an Enviro MMC in Coventry today. *(Away from 900 duties)
Any info?
Quote from: Ben on July 08, 2015, 07:11:58 PM
I'll post this here, but I heard through the grapevine that there was an Enviro MMC in Coventry today. *(Away from 900 duties)
Any info?
Yes, one of YW's tacho buses
Quote from: don on July 05, 2015, 03:02:11 PM
Any guesses what the ex Walsall Enviros will replace - my guesses:-
A) probable - Mercedes 0405N
B) possible - Bendibus
C) long shot - Geminis (to Dundee or AG as President replacements)
I hope that this is the back of the disgusting 4695! :)
It would be nice to be rid of some more of the Merc's too! But really, Coventry need more Single Decker's. A shame we don't have anymore Enviro 200's or Eclipse's :(
4206 now has a very odd Destination Blind...
https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.379165548922051.1073741894.369276339910972/438187073019898/?type=3&theater
Note: This is my Photo page where I put my photo's :)
4206 dusplay working OK today.
For those looking for Coventry Mercs, 5 and 7 all Trident today Mercs on both buses on 1 and 18/A only so far.
For some reason the front blind on 4453 is black letters on yellow not yellow on black, looks quite odd.
4764 has been parked in the forecourt of Coventry garage today, complete with fleetname
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/anfnq4
Quote from: JoNi on July 20, 2015, 01:57:23 PM
4764 has been parked in the forecourt of Coventry garage today, complete with fleetname
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/anfnq4
A great pity they're not using the gold fleet names used on the Crimson buses in my personal opinion. White doesn't look right against the gold stripe
Quote from: JoNi on July 20, 2015, 01:57:23 PM
4764 has been parked in the forecourt of Coventry garage today, complete with fleetname
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/anfnq4
the seats look leather still?
Quote from: BU07 LGO on July 24, 2015, 02:30:23 PM
the seats look leather still?
No, there are the same moquette as the Crimson vehicles
Quote from: Tony on July 24, 2015, 02:49:23 PM
No, there are the same moquette as the Crimson vehicles
I thought they would be but in the pic above they look quite shiney upstairs
A bit of bus company co-operation last night as one of the (if not "the") last 13 towards Willenhall had a spot of bother with a passenger in Coventry City Centre, the driver activated his alarm (which was that quiet, it took me a while to even realise it was that bus) and the nuisance passenger was then removed by a Stagecoach driver who managed to persuade him off and to walk away.
4764 seen yesterday with a group of staff.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/2Mcp28
4766 has arrived.
I saw one on Broadway north in Walsall around 12 so probably 4766
Quote from: JoNi on July 27, 2015, 07:17:31 AM
4764 seen yesterday with a group of staff.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/2Mcp28
Thanks JoNi,
It looks like the display is throwing us a big clue on next month's service changes, NXC did hint about a direct route a year or so ago, the amendment on Vosa also suggests a 11A service.
4203 had a breakdown at Lunchtime in Mercer Avenue on the 10. 4692 picked up the passengers.
is there a date yet for the launch of the new liveried envrios at Coventry yet
As soon as all us drivers have been type trained on them 👍🏻
Plenty of Mercs out today.
Both ones
Two fives
Four eighteens
1703 came out on 18 to complete the set.
Thanks for the info popped over to Cov this afternoon and got photos of them all except one of the ones on the 5.
Dave
Quote from: Shaunboyce2015 on July 31, 2015, 06:07:45 PM
As soon as all us drivers have been type trained on them 👍🏻
Are they different to the other Enviro's?
Quote from: Ben on August 02, 2015, 05:56:20 PM
Are they different to the other Enviro's?
Different dashboards from 4830 upwards
Quote from: John on August 02, 2015, 06:15:50 PM
Different dashboards from 4830 upwards
Ah makes sense, thanks.
4210 now has an Orange LED Destination Display.
4409's Destination Display is blank at the back and the front.
Both buses are on the Number 10 today.
4210 has had that for a while, look out for 4453 on 7 which "black on yellow" flipover
The diversion of routes 16/A next week due to roadworks in Bennetts Lane at the Keresley end of the routes will result in their conversion to single deck due to low trees in Watery Lane.
New 30th August timetables for the University of Warwick services are now on Traveline (http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk) under service numbers 11, 11U and 12X.
Service 12 is renumbered as 11U. ::)
New 12X goes via Kenilworth Road and Gibbet Hill to the University up to every 15 mins Mon-Sat daytime and half hourly Sunday daytime.
Evening and Sunday frequency between University and Leamington is increased to half hourly.
A couple of afternoon peak inbound journeys awkwardly terminating at Earlsdon are reintroduced. ::)
Quote from: JPC on August 14, 2015, 07:04:50 PM
New 30th August timetables for the University of Warwick services are now on Traveline (http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk) under service numbers 11, 11U and 12X.
Service 12 is renumbered as 11U. ::)
New 12X goes via Kenilworth Road and Gibbet Hill to the University up to every 15 mins Mon-Sat daytime and half hourly Sunday daytime.
Evening and Sunday frequency between University and Leamington is increased to half hourly.
A couple of afternoon peak inbound journeys awkwardly terminating at Earlsdon are reintroduced. ::)
Not sure that the Earlsdon terminus is that awkward, as surely they are there to take students to and from their residences, so as a result they don't need to extend into the City Centre?
Quote from: JPC on August 14, 2015, 07:04:50 PM
New 30th August timetables for the University of Warwick services are now on Traveline (http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk) under service numbers 11, 11U and 12X.
Service 12 is renumbered as 11U. ::)
New 12X goes via Kenilworth Road and Gibbet Hill to the University up to every 15 mins Mon-Sat daytime and half hourly Sunday daytime.
Evening and Sunday frequency between University and Leamington is increased to half hourly.
A couple of afternoon peak inbound journeys awkwardly terminating at Earlsdon are reintroduced. ::)
The Traveline site has the outbound 11U & 12X using Cox Street (the northern most section) and White Street when leaving Pool Meadow. I assume that is an error, or is that connected to the works around Millennium Place? Can't Priory St and Fairfax St be used instead?
As result of diversion via Watery Lane due to roadworks 16/A has six Mercs and six blue B7s today.
two Mercs on 20, 873 on 9 and 4419 on 2. Routes 1, 5, 7, 18/A all double deck.
Have any of the 47xx enviros been out yet ?
All 11 and 12 this morning were usual combination of existing Tridents, Gemini and Enviro's.
To provide further variety today 873 and 874 are on 16/A.
The other E200 are on 2/3 with 1594, 4415 and 4688.
Indeed 1594 is the only Merc not on 16/A!
Well Dude there are three E200s on 16/A today, two B7s and seven Mercs . 2/3 all Trident and one Trident 4215 on 9/9A. 1659 is on 18/A as usual. Other two E200s are 872 on 20 and 873 on 5am.
What bus do I get from rail station to pool meadow bus station? Do they go in bus station? I've looked but it comes up as fair fax road?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 19, 2015, 05:25:47 PM
What bus do I get from rail station to pool meadow bus station? Do they go in bus station? I've looked but it comes up as fair fax road?
8 8A 9 9A 11 12 585 they all go into the bus station
Quote from: RS on August 19, 2015, 05:28:54 PM
8 8A 9 9A 11 12 585 they all go into the bus station
Thanks
4771 is on 11 today worked 08:15 to Leamington should be 10:45 then 13:15 if it doesn't fail!
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/Pc7873
Apparently it's first outing was on 19 last night. It already has a small rear adhesive advert for the rugby world cup on the engine cover
Not Sure if they've been posted already
871 is named Niamh
875 is named Toni-Lynn
4831 is named Amelia-Rae
4886 is named Christine
4887 is named Grace Millie
4983 is named Tyler-Louise
4771 is doing an evening peak working
10 to Eastern Green at 15:55
return to City from Warwick Uni as 12 about 5pm
4771 out on 6 this morning before going onto 11 in daytime.
Seen still displaying it's NXWM ticket "key" and when last checked had NXWM fares on cab door.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/s963f6
4763 is doing the same evening peak working 4771 did last night
10 to Eastern Green at 15:55
return to City from Warwick Uni as 12 about 5pm
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/11G129
4763 is 0915, 1145, 1415 11 to Leamington today
The service changes for 11/11U/12X seems to have been postponed for a week, will now occur on 6th of September ... perhaps this is to tie in with the completion of the roadworks or bus interchange at the University of Warwick maybe (?).
However the new timetable is seemingly static until Boxing Day, i.e no variation between University term days and holidays, so that hopefully resolves the recurring moans and groans from customers caught unaware by unwitting timetable switches, this will also simplify the complex timetables on bus stops along the route. :)
NXC's new timetable is available here (http://nxbus.co.uk/files/NXCoventry/current_timetables/2015-Timetables/17th-May-2015-Changes/C011_11U_12X_06Sep15.pdf)
Not quite a static timetable, as the 11U has a few term time only journeys for busy demand periods, the majority of which are all the journeys which start or terminate at Earlsdon.
The 11 and 12X doesn't vary between University term days and holidays (any more).
Noticed the date change on Traveline West Midlands. You are allowed to advertise timetable changes in advance. In fact it should be a laid down criteria in any partnership agreement, after all there is a registration period so the information should be able to produced.
4763 only ex Walsall bus out on 11/12 but was changed over with 13 branded 4992 later
All Coventry double deck workings Enviro today, no ex Walsall buses out but two 13 branded buses on 11/12.
I can't recall which Gemini it was but one is currently sat on the pavement in Holbrooks on route 4 with a smashed window.
4696 if it's the one on this morning.
It certainly is, I've just passed it again and it's still in situe opposite the park in Holbrooks.
I caught 4696 this morning! https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.409577949214144.1073741947.369276339910972/455077701330835/?type=3&theater
Photo taken in Far Gosford Street at 10:30.
New University campus "bus station" open with Coventry bound buses 12X at front and 11, 11U behind and Leamington bound buses in the middle. Shelters very basic!
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/y8j5hK
4766 in new Coventry livery seen being driven along Fairfax Street by engineer didn't appear to be change over.
Daytime 12Xs a mixed bag 4212, 4411, 4409, 4687.
Quote from: JoNi on September 07, 2015, 12:12:42 PM
New University campus "bus station" open with Coventry bound buses 12X at front and 11, 11U behind and Leamington bound buses in the middle. Shelters very basic!
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/y8j5hK
Those shelters remind me of the type seen in Coventry Transport days! Open ended n-shape with the roof sloping towards the road that lasted into the PTE days (a few well into the WMT era).
4774 operated a school bus and is seen here on an 11U in Earlsdon, it then worked 1735 11 to Leamington
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/y88F5f
Quote from: JoNi on September 07, 2015, 12:12:42 PM
New University campus "bus station" open with Coventry bound buses 12X at front and 11, 11U behind and Leamington bound buses in the middle. Shelters very basic!
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/y8j5hK
I hope you didn't embarrass the guy on the ladders who's swapping over the flag, the 360a/360c flag was initially put up on this bay until someone noticed the error.
4764 out today, first time I have noticed that one in service
4764 did a school bus and went onto 11 0845. 1115. 1345
4766 seen driving round block with mechanic yesterday.
4767 is 38 min past 12X.
4771 is 11 1015.1245.
4774 is 11 0945.1215
On bus advertising for the 12X shows pink and purple branding, be interesting to see if they put that on.
How much of the garage is visible from the outside ?! I.e. On a Sunday if I was to go to the garage, would I see hardly anything or will most of the buses be parked up in viewing distance.
Quote from: Beano2211 on September 10, 2015, 08:54:20 PM
On bus advertising for the 12X shows pink and purple branding, be interesting to see if they put that on.
A couple should have the branding applied now
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on September 24, 2015, 04:52:45 PM
How much of the garage is visible from the outside ?! I.e. On a Sunday if I was to go to the garage, would I see hardly anything or will most of the buses be parked up in viewing distance.
Not much if anything, why not just get photos of buses in service?
I saw 4411 on the 5 earlier with 'centro subsidised route' on the side display, is this a new thing or have I just not noticed it before? Also seemed like the side display, along with 4689, scroll much quicker than usual.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on September 24, 2015, 10:08:02 PM
Not much if anything, why not just get photos of buses in service?
Photos of buses in service are fairly common, garages themselves I find to be comparatively rare.
4396 now has a front LED display
4984 and 4987 were on villa park shuttles ealier today
Three buses have been seen with full rear adverts for EBay.
4403 on 11am, 4405 on 11 and 4421 on 23.
Apparently route branded 4773 is out on 12X 53 minutes past hour from town.
4423 has also gained a full rear advert
Quote from: JoNi on September 29, 2015, 02:07:20 PM
Apparently route branded 4773 is out on 12X 53 minutes past hour from town.
4423 has also gained a full rear advert
Typical, I was a looking out for a branded blue bus yesterday in the Earlsdon area. Kept seeing 4763/4/7 which I presume are still unbranded.
It's not very inspiring and has the "sad mouth look"
Quote from: JoNi on September 29, 2015, 05:27:56 PM
It's not very inspiring and has the "sad mouth look"
The new version of NXC's livery hasn't come out as well as I thought it would, it's no where near as bold as NXWM's Crimson or Explore Dundee's Green version. The blue/white NXC fleetname is lost in daylight, it should have been the two shades of gold as per Crimson
Quote from: Winston on September 29, 2015, 09:29:31 PM
The new version of NXC's livery hasn't come out as well as I thought it would, it's no where near as bold as NXWM's Crimson or Explore Dundee's Green version. The blue/white NXC fleetname is lost in daylight, it should have been the two shades of gold as per Crimson
Think I agree with that - overall the blue version is nothing like as 'classy' as the red/crimson and green versions. It looks rather dull and uninspiring. If anything it looks too light (both shades of blue) something darker a bit like the XD livery would have been a better bet. I've managed to grab a few pictures of 4773 earlier today [Wed] and a few others - I've put them on my own Flickr page [<- thinks there's a link to that on the left] but my photography skills aren't up to much!
What about black and yellow colours to represent Wasps the new sporting team in the city. After all it is the year of the Rugby World Cup in this country.
871 is sole remaining E200 with a "rugby ball" another new bus for you on the side, although attempts appeared to have been made to remove it!
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/Q3C3iH
Rugby balls removed 871!
Has anyone got a pic of the branded e400s for the 11s
4773 is branded for route in general, pictured on working that does couple 23s before 12x yesterday
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/752Z3X
4766 is branded for the 12X, it's on the 11 today! https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/8e733W
Quote from: JoNi on October 02, 2015, 03:16:33 PM
4773 is branded for route in general, pictured on working that does couple 23s before 12x yesterday
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/752Z3X
4766 is branded for the 12X, it's in the 11 today! https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/8e733W
In fairness the new branding suits the new livery. Wonder if they will brand PB 16 and PB 52 once their batch has finished the repaint?
I'd agree they are both **** (insert word of your own choosing)
Quote from: Chris on October 02, 2015, 01:55:54 PM
Has anyone got a pic of the branded e400s for the 11s
Not mine but here are a few:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/23917561@N03/21215236864/in/photolist-yjHCMW-zht3HH-yZ9ubK-yPa4pS-zhBnNF
https://www.flickr.com/photos/23917561@N03/21846114451/in/photolist-yjHCMW-zht3HH-yZ9ubK-yPa4pS-zhBnNF
https://www.flickr.com/photos/23917561@N03/21650112559/in/photolist-yjHCMW-zht3HH-yZ9ubK-yPa4pS-zhBnNF
https://www.flickr.com/photos/23917561@N03/21847739551/in/photolist-yjHCMW-zht3HH-yZ9ubK-yPa4pS-zhBnNF
Quote from: JoNi on September 29, 2015, 02:07:20 PM
4423 has also gained a full rear advert
Think 4423's rear ad is for 'SuperBreak' - the others I presume are for eBay.
I took 12X few weeks back. I was surprised at how many people were using it considering the fact it was out of season and out of rush hour period. I guess I'm incorrect on thinking that 15 minute frequency is bit too much considering that W1A/C doesn't get much passengers outside peak time periods.
NXC's decision to keep 11U route in full has me interested. I wonder how many buses would they save if they ran it between the rail station and university only. Perhaps it's not worth it in the end after all.
4764 has gained branding for 12X
4774 has gained University branding (same as 4773), has different ad on back, a dude looks like Batman.
Both are on 11U during daytime today.
In response to Solo 1 message
next trips for Walsall Enviros if they haven't broken down
4763 53 mins past 12X from town
4764 11U 1200, 1330, 1500
4773 11 1245, 1515
4774 11U 1300, 1430 11 1600
4775 11 1145, 1415, 1645
4767 was out on the 11 tonight showing off its new 'university' branding.
Quote from: JoNi on October 02, 2015, 03:16:33 PM
4773 is branded for route in general, pictured on working that does couple 23s before 12x yesterday
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/752Z3X
4766 is branded for the 12X, it's on the 11 today! https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/8e733W
The branding is quality to be honest
Today's Coventry Evening Telegraph carry a headline article saying they wish to open out link between Broadgate and Hertford Street, accompanied by this photo obviously not taken me! https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/D3N9t3
Quote from: JoNi on October 08, 2015, 10:19:17 AM
Today's Coventry Evening Telegraph carry a headline article saying they wish to open out link between Broadgate and Hertford Street, accompanied by this photo obviously not taken me! https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/D3N9t3
Oh please, for the love of God, not MORE roadworks!
They haven't even signed up the Tower Street roadworks properly... Imagine, you're coming into the City via Tower Street and the road all of a sudden becomes coned off on the opposite side of the carriageway only, there's a keep left sign immediately before the cones begin, what do you do? Common sense - continue on.
But no, it is actually now a one-way street coming out of the City only. And you're supposed to know that how exactly? There isn't a "Road Closed Ahead" sign or a No Entry one at the start of the one-way! Which is why half the buses going into Coventry City Centre have ended up going/almost going the wrong way down a one-way street. I have asked that they sign it properly because it's an accident waiting to happen... I'm not sure if they notified NXC of the diversion (it didn't sound to me like they did) but they certainly didn't notify Stagecoach.
On the other hand, the City-bound diversion is quite nostalgic, with buses entering the City as they used to about 15-or-so years ago.
The Coventry Telegraph...have 1 photographer. There were 15 in the 1980/90.s. He must be running around like a blue xxxxd fly. He certainley can't be everywhere. They rely on freelances, B'ham post Mail and people such like Joni and Artifacts to send articles/features in to their news desk.
Decided to try and find some Mercs today. 1591 broke down on Coundon Road (heading towards Arena Park) at about half 2, the indicators stopped working. 1579 was the next bus, so it wasn't all bad ;)
Wish I had read the 'buses to find' thread earlier, sounds like I left Arena Park just before 1571 got there.
Whats replacing the mercs at CV is it the buses that were on the 11/11U/12X?
Quote from: Chris on October 09, 2015, 08:27:54 PM
Whats replacing the mercs at CV is it the buses that were on the 11/11U/12X?
Yes.
Found something interesting on the NXC website, explains why none of the Uni buses I caught last week were on time.
Quote from: S570 on October 13, 2015, 08:19:59 PM
Found something interesting on the NXC website, explains why none of the Uni buses I caught last week were on time.
Always wanted to go to the middle of the Arabian Sea! lol!
When the Alx 400's are gone eventually, wishfully never, won't NXC need more single Deckers as many route the ALX 400's are on are more suited to Single Deckers. Examples are the 1, 5, 7, 18, 18A.
Quote from: S570 on October 13, 2015, 08:19:59 PM
Yes.
Found something interesting on the NXC website, explains why none of the Uni buses I caught last week were on time.
It seems to be a strange, humorous and fairly common thing with GPS at the minute! I wonder if it has any effect on the RTI screens at stops/stations. I'll never forget the time the Trinity Street 20 stop was showing the current time as "30:39".
The one on my phone is all over the place, my Facebook shows "Bedworth", my Twitter shows "Brent, London" and my weather app shows "Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
I'm not sure if NX drivers have a way of checking how green they drive, which can sometimes show the same results. I've got a screenshot of a GPS tracking of a Stagecoach bus from the driver app, which shows the 48 route Coventry - Nuneaton - Hinckley - Ireland - Middle of the ocean. It's also claimed that a 48 driver was leaving Leicester at over 100mph in an Enviro 200 and that my 57 was once travelling at over 300mph in the middle of a lake in Bedworth. The ticket machines now auto fare stage update and it displayed "Unknown" one night last week!
I think when the satellites lose track and then find the vehicle again, it can sometimes mess up the location and especially the speed of the vehicle.
Quote from: Ally on October 14, 2015, 02:47:24 AM
The one on my phone is all over the place, my Facebook shows "Bedworth", my Twitter shows "Brent, London" and my weather app shows "Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
Had something similar happen to me while on the train to London on Friday, where my phone thought I was 'near Barcelona' 8)
How much longer are the Mercs likely to be in service for?
The branding for the 12(X) looks immaculate! (Credit)
https://flic.kr/p/zNMzX1
Quote from: clayderman on October 15, 2015, 11:13:21 PM
The branding for the 12(X) looks immaculate! (Credit)
https://flic.kr/p/zNMzX1
It looks striking indeed but I don't like the 'halo' around the destination though. Perhaps it would be better not applying the halo.
Quote from: P419 EJW on October 15, 2015, 11:21:32 PM
It looks striking indeed but I don't like the 'halo' around the destination though. Perhaps it would be better not applying the halo.
Perhaps not the best for the MK1 Enviros, no.. It's a shame they don't brand the section under the windscreen anymore. Nevertheless, purple is a colour I was least expecting for NX's branding, let alone Coventry!
Definitely doesn't look bad. Shame about the wonky Nat Ex Coventry logo on it, thats all my eyes can see right now ::)
I like the branding, and actually really like the livery too. The only thing that bugs me is the blue bars on the Ex-Perry Barr Enviro400s. Would have looked a lot better if the bars were painted black at refurb like 4768 onwards
1776 had its bar repainted upon refurb to Xplore Dundee livery
Quote from: John on October 17, 2015, 12:54:39 PM
I like the branding, and actually really like the livery too. The only thing that bugs me is the blue bars on the Ex-Perry Barr Enviro400s. Would have looked a lot better if the bars were painted black at refurb like 4768 onwards
1776 had its bar repainted upon refurb to Xplore Dundee livery
John, do you not find that front NXC logo on the front is completely lost in bright daylight?
Quote from: Winston on October 18, 2015, 01:13:10 AM
John, do you not find that front NXC logo on the front is completely lost in bright daylight?
I've never noticed but with the logo being that pale, I can see how it would be hard to see in daylight. I like the colour of it though, but I do agree with previous comments that it should be good like Crimson repaints
4830 (on 8 ) and 4885 (on 21) have gained full rear adverts for drive a bus for us
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/iu21PL
Quote from: Adam 404 on October 13, 2015, 08:28:10 PM
When the Alx 400's are gone eventually, wishfully never, won't NXC need more single Deckers as many route the ALX 400's are on are more suited to Single Deckers. Examples are the 1, 5, 7, 18, 18A.
To be fair, there are times when the 5/18/A would definitely benefit from deckers (in terms of loadings at least). Then again, there are also times when I've been the only person upstairs on the 18A.
If the bendies are next to go, the ALXs could move to the 4 with new singles replacing them elsewhere. If any new buses are part of the ADL deal, maybe CV will get some MMCs?
4424 has gained rear Drive a bus advert (on 10 today).
Quote from: JoNi on October 20, 2015, 03:21:18 PM
4424 has gained rear Drive a bus advert (on 10 today).
They have a shortage of covebtry drivers at the moment, noticed a poster in garage today asking for WA drivers to volunteer temporarily to drive at CV.
Seems there's a huge shortage of drivers across the industry now...
Yeah because they sack all of their drivers for the most trivial things!! A very good friend of mine was sacked from NXC last week, who had worked there for nine years and was very popular amongst colleagues and passengers, shows that there is no loyalty and obviously an all time low moral in the depot lately, as a number of drivers I have spoke to aren't currently happy with the way Coventry garage is being ran, so could be even more of a shortage of drivers soon.
It is NXC's own fault IMO, and maybe they should actually treat their drivers fairly.
Quote from: lauren1993 on October 21, 2015, 03:52:29 AM
Yeah because they sack all of their drivers for the most trivial things!! A very good friend of mine was sacked from NXC last week, who had worked there for nine years and was very popular amongst colleagues and passengers, shows that there is no loyalty and obviously an all time low moral in the depot lately, as a number of drivers I have spoke to aren't currently happy with the way Coventry garage is being ran, so could be even more of a shortage of drivers soon.
It is NXC's own fault IMO, and maybe they should actually treat their drivers fairly.
50 drivers short, leaving in droves two of the traffic office now resigned too most drivers are leaving or trying to leave. to many friends have gone
NXC are getting more desperate for staff with a slide on the website all about it...
http://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/miscellaneous/were-recruiting-pcv-trainee-drivers?utm_source=homebanner&utm_campaign=were-recruiting-pcv-trainee-drivers&utm_medium=image
4765 and 4772 have both been in service today.
4765 has 12X branding.
4772 has yet to gain an NXC fleetname
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/98ad4S
Group of drivers from Wolverhampton seen out route learning this morning in Coventry who will provide cover for current staff shortage.
Quote from: JoNi on November 03, 2015, 11:57:59 AM
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/98ad4S
Group of drivers from Wolverhampton seen out route learning this morning in Coventry who will provide cover for current staff shortage.
Yes, Several of the drivers were asking me what the routes in Coventry are like. I hear they are there till Christmas.
Quote from: Nathan on November 03, 2015, 12:13:46 PM
Yes, Several of the drivers were asking me what the routes in Coventry are like. I hear they are there till Christmas.
Apparently longer according to one source
Is NX providing accommodation for these drivers or are they commuting from WN to CV everyday?
Quote from: MW on November 03, 2015, 09:51:05 PM
Is NX providing accommodation for these drivers or are they commuting from WN to CV everyday?
Commuting. I assume NX are covering these travel costs?
Quote from: Nathan on November 03, 2015, 10:05:10 PM
Commuting. I assume NX are covering these travel costs?
Surely there must be some sort of incentive for these drivers? Are they being paid for travelling? I ask because I saw the notice at work, and just wondered, why on earth would someone go all the way to Coventry to do the same thing for the same pay. How long would it take to get from Wolverhampton to Coventry and back everyday?
Quote from: MW on November 04, 2015, 12:45:09 AM
Surely there must be some sort of incentive for these drivers? Are they being paid for travelling? I ask because I saw the notice at work, and just wondered, why on earth would someone go all the way to Coventry to do the same thing for the same pay. How long would it take to get from Wolverhampton to Coventry and back everyday?
Via the train would be
From WN on VT would be dep 45 arr30
From WN on LM would be 18 mins to NS then 10 past VT 0r LM at 15 mins past and VT arr 30 LM 41
From CV on VT would be dep 22 arr NS at 45 then change to the 57 XC 01 LM 05 LM 08LM 15 VT
From CV on LM would be dep 50 arr 23 Change to 31 XC 36 LM 38 LM
Or direct VT from CV dep 42 arr 37
Direct XC form cv dep 27 arr about 00
Quote from: MW on November 04, 2015, 12:45:09 AM
Surely there must be some sort of incentive for these drivers? Are they being paid for travelling? I ask because I saw the notice at work, and just wondered, why on earth would someone go all the way to Coventry to do the same thing for the same pay. How long would it take to get from Wolverhampton to Coventry and back everyday?
You get paid 'travelling time' on top of your duty time
They should feel reasonable at home the RTI outside Coventry Council house shows buses to Lower Farm and Cannock
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/w4WUE0
Quote from: Tony on November 04, 2015, 08:13:37 AM
You get paid 'travelling time' on top of your duty time
thats really not an incentive as for all intents and purposes you are at work
if someone said to me goto walsall everyday for six weeks and we pay travel and time for that travelling i would laugh
rumour has it they are working the agency rotor shifts if that is true they are 10 hour days
Quote from: Twi on November 05, 2015, 04:43:48 PM
thats really not an incentive as for all intents and purposes you are at work
if someone said to me goto walsall everyday for six weeks and we pay travel and time for that travelling i would laugh
rumour has it they are working the agency rotor shifts if that is true they are 10 hour days
Of course it is an incentive, It's guaranteed overtime for not doing actually any more work. If your getting paid 3 hours a day that's an extra 15 hours a week, even at £10 hour that's an extra £150
I was tempted to go for it but decided its not worth putting the mileage on my car and driving in an area I don't know.
Quote from: BU07 LGO on November 05, 2015, 07:58:34 PM
I was tempted to go for it but decided its not worth putting the mileage on my car and driving in an area I don't know.
Why not use the free rail pass they provide you with?
Quote from: Dom on November 05, 2015, 08:33:09 PM
Why not use the free rail pass they provide you with?
Because pheasey don't have a train station so by time I drive / bus it to bham it's not worth it and will be easier said than done when I start at 4am!
2 mercs 1594 & @ another parked up from the porshe car showroom over the rd is a hotel could they be heading to Miller St
A friend saw both of them being driven through Pool Meadow by mechanics with van following behind!
Quote from: Solo1 on November 07, 2015, 12:51:33 PM
2 mercs 1594 & @ another parked up from the porshe car showroom over the rd is a hotel could they be heading to Miller St
Pensnett
How many of the ex Walsall envrio's are in service on 11 &12 service as I thought the at were
all done .
Yesterday of the twelve boards on routes 11, 11U and 12X at least seven had ex Walsall Enviros. No sign of 4770 on the road yet.
Quote from: JoNi on November 08, 2015, 11:38:46 AM
Yesterday of the twelve boards on routes 11, 11U and 12X at least seven had ex Walsall Enviros. No sign of 4770 on the road yet.
Are 4769 and 4775 branded yet?
4769 has branding for Uni service, 4775 has no branding.
@Dom According to NXC workings spreadsheet
Tridents are usual on 12X along with E400's and Geminis
Sounds a stupid question I know but how often is there something other than a E400 on the 13?
Quote from: Dom on November 13, 2015, 07:31:31 AM
Sounds a stupid question I know but how often is there something other than a E400 on the 13?
Can be daily, can be weekly, or even more sporadically. But as of late there are fewer reports from Cov. The 21 is a similar story.
13 most days. Often the extra weekday afternoon bus that does schools then 16:15 to Whitmore Park staying out til the end.
Quote from: John on October 17, 2015, 12:54:39 PM
I like the branding, and actually really like the livery too. The only thing that bugs me is the blue bars on the Ex-Perry Barr Enviro400s. Would have looked a lot better if the bars were painted black at refurb like 4768 onwards
1776 had its bar repainted upon refurb to Xplore Dundee livery
I did notice yesterday that 4765 has had its blue bars between the destination glass repainted black from blue. Looks a whole lot better than the others
Driver of 4403 put his foot down on the 18A this morning, gaining a cracked window in the process.
4691 on 9/9A replaced 2160 to provide a single decker for 20 peak working which goes under low bridge on 1800 20E.
4991 (13) replaced 4768 on 9/9A apparently because driver wasn't type trained!
4770 was in service on 23S this afternoon followed by Earlsdon shorts in 11U. It has Uni branding with the pitiful rear advert with student wearing specs.
Virtually all ex Walsall Enviro's out today.
4319 is morning peak board on 18.
4772 broken down at Pool Meadow, engine won't start.
Anyone know what was going on at Pool Meadow about 15 mins ago? Looked like it had been evacuated, had to get off the 21 by the NXC garage :/
Security alert.
4319 in use on 23 today.
Are the withdrawn mercs still parked at the side of the garage? Which ones?
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on November 19, 2015, 02:16:23 PM
Are the withdrawn mercs still parked at the side of the garage? Which ones?
They were yesterday, assume they haven't moved since then.
1678 and I think 1659 at the side.
1570, 1572, 1579 and 1703 at the front.
@Tony any more Mercs coming to PN? I've heard they are
Can it be confirmed that 4319 has finished it's days in Coventry?
Quote from: JoNi on November 20, 2015, 11:31:41 AM
Can it be confirmed that 4319 has finished it's days in Coventry?
Yes it's gone
@Ronnoc see Pensnett reply 6441 it's due at pensnett probably via Walsall for a repaint?
Quote from: Chris on November 21, 2015, 01:01:00 PM
@Ronnoc see Pensnett reply 6441 it's due at pensnett probably via Walsall for a repaint?
Maybe in to crimson ???
Still regularly see an ALX or 2 on the Uni routes, does anyone know how many buses they require at peak times?
Just thinking that if there's only just enough E400s, maybe 4421 will come back 'crimson' to try and keep Uni routes fully repainted.
Speaking of the Uni routes, the 11/U are diverted past the school/Charter Avenue due to a burst water main at Kirby Corner.
Mon-Sat Daytime 11 five buses, 11U three buses, 12X four buses
M-F peak up to four buses. It would appear to be an achievement to get the routes purely being operates by Enviros, let alone the four 12X branded buses on the 12X workings!
The reality at the moment is some of the ex Walsall buses aren't very reliable, being brought onto the road for the peak to help make ends meet. Hence why 4770 is on 13s tonight.
Coventry's New Fares:
Edaysavers are reduced!
Singles are frozen
Standard Paper Daytickets are going up to £3 Child & £4 Adult
Website: http://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/news/national-express-coventry-fares-changes-2016
Quote from: JoNi on December 03, 2015, 04:56:08 PM
The reality at the moment is some of the ex Walsall buses aren't very reliable
4693 was on the 11 earlier, so I'm not complaining. :)
One of the night 11s is a 42xx Trident.
An Enviro on 10 passed in Cox Street in dark about 17:30 which appeared to have new seats inside which could have been an ex Walsall one!
Quote from: JoNi on December 04, 2015, 07:09:53 PM
An Enviro on 10 passed in Cox Street in dark about 17:30 which appeared to have new seats inside which could have been an ex Walsall one!
I did see an Enviro on the 10 earlier, don't think it was an ex WA one though. Of course, that's not saying it's the one you saw. Or that I remember correctly, my phone died so I couldn't note anything down :P
Quote from: S570 on December 04, 2015, 07:18:24 PM
, my phone died so I couldn't note anything down :P
In my day we used a piece of paper and a pen!
Quote from: Tony on December 04, 2015, 07:40:38 PM
In my day we used a piece of paper and a pen!
I use paper and pen. It's easier.
My battery was flat too! 4986 appeared replacing 4410 during daytime.
Quote from: Tony on December 04, 2015, 07:40:38 PM
In my day we used a piece of paper and a pen!
What is this 'paper' you speak of? :D
Expect confusion in Eastern Green this week in the evening, barely any publicity. There temporary timetable isn't even on the website
Timetable: https://www.facebook.com/nxcoventry/photos/a.332154670133345.105434.235104816504998/1290351890980280/?type=3&theater
Information: http://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/temporary-diversions/broad-lanea45-evenig-closures
4421 is back
Quote from: Beano2211 on December 08, 2015, 08:04:58 PM
4421 is back
Sadly in blue and white, I was expecting it in Coventry's crimson but ya can't get everything :)
All four 12X branded buses are on 12X what's the saying Bingo!
It can be done.
Seemingly only three of the eight 4's are bendybuses today with 4 branded 6014 on 21. 6015 and 6020 are long term off road.
I saw 4411 standing at the 16/16A stop on the Radford Road (opposite Mossdale Close !) at 6.15pm today and it had no interior lights on at all and the only lights on were its hazard lights ! I assume it must have broken down ?
Quote from: Coventry Transport Dude on December 22, 2015, 11:21:00 PM
I saw 4411 standing at the 16/16A stop on the Radford Road (opposite Mossdale Close !) at 6.15pm today and it had no interior lights on at all and the only lights on were its hazard lights ! I assume it must have broken down ?
Broken window.
Sounds like some of the Radford lowlife have been up to no good again ? I rarely catch a Bus these days, as i tend to walk everywhere if i can and only catch one if it's something new in the fleet that i haven't been on before, or if it's a Bus that's about to be withdrawn from service ?
If i have to catch the 16 / 16A Bus at all, i won't go on it at night at all now, as the stone throwing lowlife congregate on the park next to where 4411 was damaged earlier and then some of 'em will hide behind the bushes there, throw their stones and then quickly leg it ! They could really do with some plain clothed Police Officers hiding nearby, ready to pounce on the gits when they do it, but as usual, nothing will get done about stopping it until someone on the Bus is either seriously or fatally injured ??? ("Hopefully not" !).
Apologies if I've mentioned this before but I kind of need answer not to mention I don't really want to make a pointless journey but how accessible is CV from a photographer's POV ?! I mean I like taking garages (Refer to my Flickr) especially of buses parked up and I quite like CV but I don't really want make a near 14 mile journey just to see some shutters and the back end of an E400 !
Not easy without permission to photograph inside the depot and there is not a good viewpoint from the outside into the depot. The best times for outside views is early mornings, and after the evening peak when lots of buses are about. In the mornings I have photographed buses parked, the best day Saturday, before 8am. In the evening after the peak there's always a queue of buses waiting to enter the depot. A colleague of mine did some very nice pics from the front railings and entrance, of buses waiting to enter the depot, this was in darkness of course, with the available light of the depot, and because the buses were stationary in the queue he was able to photograph useing slow exposures without the use of tripod. In daylight of months coming, if you can wait that long, its quite easy with normal exposures of course.
As a result of Christmas closure lots of ALX400s are parked along the side and at the back of the depot behind high wall and gate.
Thanks, I've seen many flickr photos of buses parked by the entrance so I'm assuming that still might be the case although I'd surmise CV would rather dispatch them and keep all the buses inside .. ?!
Buses are gaining new cab door posters for revised fares. The unbranded B7s have lost their Daysaver adverts from below the shallower side windows.
Quote from: JoNi on December 29, 2015, 03:42:36 PM
Buses are gaining new cab door posters for revised fares. The unbranded B7s have lost their Daysaver adverts from below the shallower side windows.
Some NXWM buses have now gained new 2016 cab door fare tables. Seen them on PN and WB buses so far
Quote from: Nathan on December 29, 2015, 04:27:25 PM
Some NXWM buses have now gained new 2016 cab door fare tables. Seen them on PN and WB buses so far
WN E200's have them as well
Quote from: Nathan on December 29, 2015, 04:27:25 PM
Some NXWM buses have now gained new 2016 cab door fare tables. Seen them on PN and WB buses so far
Some of the BY Omnilinks on the 55 this afternoon have them.
"(Please note that from 5 January to 11 January services 6/6A will use Stand T in Pool Meadow)" Does anyone know why it won't be serving Stand M between these dates towards Little Heath?
http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/Coventry/3Januarychangesservices.aspx
Apparently electronic doors are being installed in the central aisles by the former canteen in a bid to stop people trespassing in the bus lanes.
Blokes out changing bus stop flags in City Centre. Saw 10 in Corporation Street going towards Pool Meadow, totem by Council House still has 6, 10, 18 etc on it. Some much for technology allowing instantaneous change.
Quote from: JoNi on January 03, 2016, 09:18:22 AM
Blokes out changing bus stop flags in City Centre. Saw 10 in Corporation Street going towards Pool Meadow, totem by Council House still has 6, 10, 18 etc on it. Some much for technology allowing instantaneous change.
The Birmingham ones are abit out of date in some places.
4453 has crashed into the bridge at the transport museum and smashed 3 of the glass panes. It was about to be displayed and take part in a event at the museum today. Damage is being assessed to the bridge.
Nine sections of glass broken, slight damage to the bus, and a large dent in the drivers pride? https://www.flickr.com/photos/dofartshavelumps/23780740799/in/dateposted/
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on January 03, 2016, 10:48:40 AM
4453 has crashed into the bridge at the transport museum and smashed 3 of the glass panes. It was about to be displayed and take part in a event at the museum today. Damage is being assessed to the bridge.
Temporary bus shelter being delivered opposite old fire station presumably for 21, new timetables for 11 and 20 available in Travel Centre but not on racks in Pool Meadow!
I need to go to the Asda in Brades Lane by the Walsgrave Hospital, i have google mapped it and nearest bus tat goes near it is the 8A. Are they any buses that actually serve it?
Quote from: Chris on January 08, 2016, 11:56:48 AM
I need to go to the Asda in Brades Lane by the Walsgrave Hospital, i have google mapped it and nearest bus tat goes near it is the 8A. Are they any buses that actually serve it?
@Chris The Bus to Brade Drive, Walsgrave Asda is the 1. The 8 stops at MacDonalds across the road on Wigston Rd.
1: http://jp.networkwestmidlands.com/centro/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&hideBannerInfo=1&command=direct&line=41001&net=cen&project=y11&sup= &lineVer=12&itdLPxx_direction=H&itdLPxx_line=41001&itdLPxx_net=cen&itdLPxx_project=y11&itdLPxx_sup= &itdLPxx_lineVer=12&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_debug=
8: http://jp.networkwestmidlands.com/centro/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&hideBannerInfo=1&command=direct&line=41008&net=cen&project=y11&sup= &lineVer=11&itdLPxx_direction=H&itdLPxx_line=41008&itdLPxx_net=cen&itdLPxx_project=y11&itdLPxx_sup= &itdLPxx_lineVer=11&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_debug=
Alternatively, use De Courcey routes X6, 74 or 703 which go down Hinckley Road upto MacDonalds.
4691 took a detour down Croft Road on the 18A earlier, ended up missing out the stop on Greyfriars Road.
Also saw some posters being changed in Pool Meadow.
A 9A got stuck at the train station earlier, someone had decided to park right next to the first stand. Also a few cars parked opposite the stops, meaning buses couldn't get past one another.
I know there's still work going on in the area, but from what I've seen so far, I really don't think this new bus 'station' is a good design.
Many of the ALX 400's now have a new CCTV & Smoking Advert on them. Here is an image, similar to the Platinum poster with man and his broccoli.
Photo: https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.493786444126627.1073742167.369276339910972/495945630577375/?type=3&theater
Added to the set of adverts is the "Banging Classial" and the Cleaner Hero.
4886's Banging Classical Ad https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.375264442645495.1073741871.369276339910972/498572640314674/?type=3&theater
4453's front Destination now just displays a green colour with no information as seen here...
https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.459079817597290.1073742052.369276339910972/504320589739879/?type=3&theater
4986s displays are stuck displaying 'Not in service', which I imagine will be fun for the driver(s). 4453s is 'fixed', was on the 1 yesterday.
Another bendy on the 21 today, nice to see them around a bit more.
Usual shoddy peak service on 20 Stagecoach must laughing all the way to the bank!
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/74qUGz
Quote from: JoNi on February 18, 2016, 05:17:27 PM
Usual shoddy peak service on 20 Stagecoach must laughing all the way to the bank!
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/74qUGz
Though if 2 turn up together, they can block the 48 in :P
The 20 does seem to have a habit of clogging up Trinity Street.
Gemini 4689 on Coventry to Nuneaton special rail service.
4690 as well 4689
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/3M6Tb2
Calling at Arena, Bedworth, Bermuda Park and Nuneaton.
Never could work out why Welcome to Coventry sign faces Street not the passengers arriving in the city!
Quote from: JoNi on February 21, 2016, 01:15:54 PM
4690 as well 4689
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/3M6Tb2
Calling at Arena, Bedworth, Bermuda Park and Nuneaton.
Never could work out why Welcome to Coventry sign faces Street not the passengers arriving in the city!
4694 too
4421 - 8/A
The Number 5 might run better for the next 5 weeks!! http://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/temporary-diversions/everdon-road-closure
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/90DVj0
4453 on 1 bring a Coventry Corporation bus to the route in the last few months of NX operation.
4770 has lost its purple hallo.
Image: https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.481717552000183.1073742133.369276339910972/516465471858724/?type=3&theater
4893 has lost its maroon border around the destination blind.
Image: https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.478497978988807.1073742130.369276339910972/519988308173107/?type=3&theater
Quote from: JoNi on March 25, 2016, 11:16:12 AM
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/90DVj0
4453 on 1 bring a Coventry Corporation bus to the route in the last few months of NX operation.
Is service 1 going to another operator? (or have I misread your last message!).
Quote from: paulb1973 on March 26, 2016, 01:09:29 PM
Is service 1 going to another operator? (or have I misread your last message!).
Central Buses have won the tender.
4207, 4221, 4415 and 4689 0n the 4 today. I don't get to Coventry very often, but if this not unusual the future does not look good for the Bendies. I travelled on 6016 which was very tatty inside.
PD0001111/138 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Green Lane and Woodway Park given service number 8/8A/8S/9/9A/9S effective from 29-May-2016. To amend Route.
Going back via Corporation Street perhaps?
Which envrio's were out today on 11 &12 service
A morning Number 1 service leaving its route...
Does anyone know why?
https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.489943034510968.1073742155.369276339910972/525646360940635/?type=3&theater
Service 1 doesn't serve Cox Street.
Quote from: Adam 404 on March 31, 2016, 08:10:26 PM
PD0001111/138 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Green Lane and Woodway Park given service number 8/8A/8S/9/9A/9S effective from 29-May-2016. To amend Route.
Going back via Corporation Street perhaps?
they are being trialled to operate outbound through sky blue way instead of far gosford street
1659 has left from its parking space at Wheatley Street. Where has it gone? 1678 is the only Merc on that side of the garage now.
Image of 1678 on its own: https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.375537565951516.1073741883.369276339910972/526675107504427/?type=3&theater
Quote from: Nathan on March 26, 2016, 01:25:13 PM
Central Buses have won the tender.
I Have just found the tender results online. I was a little shocked that Central Buses had won the 1!
If i am reading the document correctly , The existing 27 and 360A/C are coming off to be replaced by some new routes and changes to an existing one...
26 Stoke Aldermoor - Hospital (iGo Operated)
43 University to Eastern Green (De Courcey)
60 University to Arena via Hospital (De Courcey)
61 Allesley Park to Arena (De Courcey)
Quote from: gc802002 on April 08, 2016, 10:06:36 AM
I Have just found the tender results online. I was a little shocked that Central Buses had won the 1!
If i am reading the document correctly , The existing 27 and 360A/C are coming off to be replaced by some new routes and changes to an existing one...
26 Stoke Aldermoor - Hospital (iGo Operated)
43 University to Eastern Green (De Courcey)
60 University to Arena via Hospital (De Courcey)
61 Allesley Park to Arena (De Courcey)
Meaning the 11 will again be the longest urban bus rout in Europe.
Quote from: James4368 on November 09, 2015, 02:09:41 PM
@Dom
According to NXC workings spreadsheet
Tridents are usual on 12X along with E400's and Geminis
Is there a link to this spreadsheet please? Thanks
Quote from: gc802002 on April 08, 2016, 11:11:01 AM
Is there a link to this spreadsheet please? Thanks
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/tZHoQDUm1HwOAZvQhE50A5A/htmlview
Quote from: 2206 on April 08, 2016, 11:13:06 AM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/tZHoQDUm1HwOAZvQhE50A5A/htmlview
Thanks Chap!
Quote from: gc802002 on April 08, 2016, 10:06:36 AM
I Have just found the tender results online. I was a little shocked that Central Buses had won the 1!
If i am reading the document correctly , The existing 27 and 360A/C are coming off to be replaced by some new routes and changes to an existing one...
26 Stoke Aldermoor - Hospital (iGo Operated)
43 University to Eastern Green (De Courcey)
60 University to Arena via Hospital (De Courcey)
61 Allesley Park to Arena (De Courcey)
The 27 is being replaced by the 41 being diverted Via Abbey Road but the Willenhall section won't be replaced.
All 16's are finishing at Warwickshire Shopping Park.
The 26 is replacing that section there Hourly. The 43 & 61 are going to be hourly services and the 60 half hourly with hourly evening & Sunday service.
I have a document outlining the changes and why which I received at the Your Public Transport Matters Event a few weeks ago. I will attach it later.
Quote from: Adam 404 on April 08, 2016, 11:45:45 AM
The 27 is being replaced by the 41 being diverted Via Abbey Road but the Willenhall section won't be replaced.
All 16's are finishing at Warwickshire Shopping Park.
The 26 is replacing that section there Hourly. The 43 & 61 are going to be hourly services and the 60 half hourly with hourly evening & Sunday service.
I have a document outlining the changes and why which I received at the Your Public Transport Matters Event a few weeks ago. I will attach it later.
In addition to this, the 703 will not operate on Evenings and Sundays and instead, the 20A will extend to the Hospital Every 30 mins on evenings & Sundays.
Quote from: Adam 404 on April 08, 2016, 11:45:45 AM
The 27 is being replaced by the 41 being diverted Via Abbey Road but the Willenhall section won't be replaced.
All 16's are finishing at Warwickshire Shopping Park.
The 26 is replacing that section there Hourly. The 43 & 61 are going to be hourly services and the 60 half hourly with hourly evening & Sunday service.
I have a document outlining the changes and why which I received at the Your Public Transport Matters Event a few weeks ago. I will attach it later.
Thanks Adam, I look forward to reading this later on
Quote from: gc802002 on April 08, 2016, 11:57:03 AM
Thanks Adam, I look forward to reading this later on
No problem.
Here is the document. I have retyped it from the sheet I was given and has all the details you may want to know. I am happy to pass any feedback onto Andrew Harding who sorts subsidies out.
Many Thanks. Adam.
Thanks Adam, If I have any constructive comments I will get back to you!
Quote from: Adam 404 on April 08, 2016, 01:10:18 PM
No problem.
Here is the document. I have retyped it from the sheet I was given and has all the details you may want to know. I am happy to pass any feedback onto Andrew Harding who sorts subsidies out.
Many Thanks. Adam.
First general thoughts.
That will see Skipworth Rd, Brinklow Rd, Clifford Bridge Rd [part of] and Dorchester Way lose their direct regular service to the City Centre will it not? Don't think the residents, certainly along Dorchester Way, will be best pleased - I know service 4 isn't too far away in some areas. Also, the replacement service 26 is only hourly - bit of come down from the current level of service!
I'm assuming NXC's 16 and 16A will cease to go beyond the Warwickshire Shopping Park at all times.
I suppose its a shame the 360a/360c is going - but at least there are replacements, even if it looks a bit messy. I think there was [or maybe there still is] a 43 between Eastern Green and the University of Warwick previously.
For the people of Willenhall Wood, its back to the old established 13/13A & 21 I guess. Some could use the iGo 41 if they live near enough presumably.
Quote from: gc802002 on April 08, 2016, 03:29:54 PM
Thanks Adam, If I have any constructive comments I will get back to you!
Ok, If you send them over, I can give some feedback to Andrew Harding.
Quote from: paulb1973 on April 08, 2016, 03:40:24 PM
First general thoughts.
That will see Skipworth Rd, Brinklow Rd, Clifford Bridge Rd [part of] and Dorchester Way lose their direct regular service to the City Centre will it not? Don't think the residents, certainly along Dorchester Way, will be best pleased - I know service 4 isn't too far away in some areas. Also, the replacement service 26 is only hourly - bit of come down from the current level of service!
I'm assuming NXC's 16 and 16A will cease to go beyond the Warwickshire Shopping Park at all times.
I suppose its a shame the 360a/360c is going - but at least there are replacements, even if it looks a bit messy. I think there was [or maybe there still is] a 43 between Eastern Green and the University of Warwick previously.
For the people of Willenhall Wood, its back to the old established 13/13A & 21 I guess. Some could use the iGo 41 if they live near enough presumably.
The 16 will always finish at Warwickshire Shopping Park from July.
The 43 did use to operate before the 360 but went down some back roads in the Tile Hill area. It didn't use to serve Tile Hill Rail Station. It used Wolfe Road and Gravel Hill.
It is a shame about the Willenhall area and have already sent over a few ideas on how it could be served better. It is somewhat similar to the 27 timetable attached but my idea also serves Orchard Retail Park & the Uni. Of Warwick.
Don't forget the Monday to Friday X31 which operates on Dorchester Way.
The 26 has confused me a bit. I am sure its route will become more clear soon.
The new service 26 seems a bit pointless to me - just duplicating the current 16/16a potentially. Are iGo going to run one minibus/single decker between Stoke Aldermoor and the Hospital - just pottering about between the two on an hourly basis. I'd assume it will travel via Allard Way, Langbank Ave, Princethorpe Way, Binley Rd then around the Warwickshire Shopping Park. Couldn't they arm twist NXC into extending some 16/16A [but fewer than now] journey's instead?!
More likely to be, actually...from Princethorpe Way, then Quorn Way, Bredon Ave, Deerdale Way, Willenhall Lane and so on (part-replacing the 360a/360c as well!).
I suppose the X31 does provide some cover along Dorchester Way etc, but its not the same as the current provision level. Some could catch a 26 to Stoke Aldermoor then change to a 16/16a there. Pity the 26 isn't terminating in town rather than Stoke Aldermoor thinking about it. It's all about keeping costs down I daresay.
The 585 could easily have been diverted to cover Dorchester Way and maintain a link from Binley to the Hospital.
Providing a direct link from Stoke Aldermoor to the hospital does maintain a link from an area represented by the councillor who chairs the ITA!!
We currently live in a era where bus routes are treated as silos preventing efficient interworking of buses and crews. I bet you could run the equivalent of the 26 at no cost by disposing of the Bendybuses and the separate rota required.
The 26 seems to be terminating in 'no mans land' - Stoke Aldermoor a strange place to start/end a bus service. The Dorchester Way clan have gone from a fairly regular service 34 to a replacement 16/16A, to [potentially] a minibus to Stoke Aldermoor - in the space of less than five years!
The 26 is effectively the bus that ran on the 27.
You won't have real time information and fare paying passengers lose the flexibility of NX passes/day tickets (i.e. pay more).
I certainly know of one case where a tendering authority requires the contractor of a local service to accept passes from the major operator (previous imcumbant) in the city as part of the tender agreement.
Quote from: paulb1973 on April 08, 2016, 04:13:56 PM
More likely to be, actually...from Princethorpe Way, then Quorn Way, Bredon Ave, Deerdale Way, Willenhall Lane and so on (part-replacing the 360a/360c as well!).
The 360 which will be mainly known as 60 will cover the Willenhall section on its way. Look at the map I have just created on Google for further information as attached at the bottom.
The real time sign at Coombe Park Road on Clifford Bridge Road won't be served by any buses that can display real time info!
Quote from: Adam 404 on April 08, 2016, 05:11:54 PM
The 360 which will be mainly known as 60 will cover the Willenhall section on its way. Look at the map I have just created on Google for further information as attached at the bottom.
Thanks for those - the 60 & 61 are still going to be very long routes; sort of south & east along with west & north half-circles instead. I'd under-estimated the length and direction of the 60 I think! I haven't fully checked all the roads they cover - but I assume all the roads served by the 360a/c now will get a replacement service come July, with no loss of coverage?
1678 has also left Coventry. Does anyone know where 1659 & 1678 have gone?
1678 was in quite good condition as this picture taken on Thursday shows.
Link to 1678: https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.375537565951516.1073741883.369276339910972/526675107504427/?type=3&theater
Quote from: Adam 404 on April 09, 2016, 09:05:01 PM
1678 has also left Coventry. Does anyone know where 1659 & 1678 have gone?
1678 was in quite good condition as this picture taken on Thursday shows.
Link to 1678: https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.375537565951516.1073741883.369276339910972/526675107504427/?type=3&theater
All 6 are going direct to Yorkshire dealers, sold to PVS, but may be collected by Wigley
Quote from: Tony on April 10, 2016, 09:25:37 AM
All 6 are going direct to Yorkshire dealers, sold to PVS, but may be collected by Wigley
Ok, Thanks Tony.
I thought National Express were trialling a posher bus on route 2 but it was actually a Johnsons bus blocking the stop while driver went to the shop.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/h213G5
The 4 is 100% bendi today, that hasn't happened for a few weeks
4696 has joined the noisy club.
4696 only spent a day in the noisy club.
2153 recently had some of its black light surrounds painted sky blue.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/RX2y95
Quote from: JoNi on April 29, 2016, 06:17:37 PM
4696 only spent a day in the noisy club.
2153 recently had some of its black light surrounds painted sky blue.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/RX2y95
Probably because it was a hot day, the Geminis tend to be noisier in hot weather and I'm sure 4696 and other non hoovering Geminis will have many more days in the noisy club :)
4450 must have wanted a day in as it displays "Not In Service" It is the 08:40 ish number 10 from Pool Meadow to Eastern Green.
Image of 4450 in action: https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.472683556236916.1073742094.369276339910972/535258893312715/?type=3&theater
This has now been rectified. (11:46)
PD0001111/133 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Variation Accepted: Operating between City, Pool Meadow and Leamington given service number 11/11U/12X effective from 03-Jul-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.
Quote from: Adam 404 on March 31, 2016, 08:10:26 PM
PD0001111/138 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Green Lane and Woodway Park given service number 8/8A/8S/9/9A/9S effective from 29-May-2016. To amend Route.
From next week, these services will run via Sky Blue Way in both directions. It is ashame it doesn't go via Lower Ford Street outbound to Walsgrave rather than going back on itself.
http://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/changes-to-services-8-8a-9-and-9a-in-far-gosford-street-?utm_source=homebanner&utm_campaign=changes-to-services-8-8a-9-and-9a-in-far-gosford-street-&utm_medium=image
Quote from: Adam 404 on May 23, 2016, 04:00:11 PM
From next week, these services will run via Sky Blue Way in both directions. It is ashame it doesn't go via Lower Ford Street outbound to Walsgrave rather than going back on itself.
http://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/changes-to-services-8-8a-9-and-9a-in-far-gosford-street-?utm_source=homebanner&utm_campaign=changes-to-services-8-8a-9-and-9a-in-far-gosford-street-&utm_medium=image
That outbound bus shelter on Lower Ford St is still there! I assume the Bendi's couldn't make the turn from Cox St into Lower Ford St - but surely the Volvo B7RLE's can (although it is a bit tight if cars are parked there).
They are not "expecting" standard daytickets, concessionery passes or travelcards on the Shuttle Buses to MTV Crashes, Bruce Springstein or Rhianna shuttle buses...
http://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/ricoh-arena-event-shuttle-buses?utm_source=homebanner&utm_campaign=ricoh-arena-event-shuttle-buses&utm_medium=image
1687 was on the front of the depot today looking smart and was lovely to see a Merc as I haven't seen one since the day they died
Surprised nobody has noticed/posted the two 'red' buses in use in Coventry today.
YW 4382
WB 4746
Thanks for the tip off.
Are they on peak/daytime workings or ones that run til midnight?
Is this a one day loan or are they going to around for several days?
Message sent from Investors in People bus!
Quote from: JoNi on May 27, 2016, 12:25:00 PM
Thanks for the tip off.
Are they on peak/daytime workings or ones that run til midnight?
Is this a one day loan or are they going to around for several days?
Message sent from Investors in People bus!
They are doing the shuttle from the Station to the Ricoh
Thanks
Quote from: Tony on May 27, 2016, 11:49:00 AM
Surprised nobody has noticed/posted the two 'red' buses in use in Coventry today.
YW 4382
WB 4746
Just came on here to post, saw them both around lunchtime. Definitely prefer the crimson to the red and white, and CVs version.
Sounds like a 4 or 10 broke down somewhere, lots of unhappy people at the stand along with a couple of supervisors.
For whatever reason... The 4 and the 10 are also going via Sky Blue Way in both directions like the 8's and 9's. Is this supposed to be happening as only the 8's and 9's have been advertised as changed.
4452's red streak reigns no more!
https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.485882101583728.1073742142.369276339910972/549513935220544/?type=3&theater
Is this batch due in for repaint soon out of curiosity been as the rest of the 445* / 446* has been put into Crimson for the 97?
The 4 this evening is 100% bendibus including long time absentee 6015, first time on the road for a few months awaiting a replacement engine, it came out this afternoon as a change bus for 6012
Quote from: Adam 404 on June 02, 2016, 05:33:00 PM
For whatever reason... The 4 and the 10 are also going via Sky Blue Way in both directions like the 8's and 9's. Is this supposed to be happening as only the 8's and 9's have been advertised as changed.
The 4 I caught on Saturday didn't, so maybe there was some confusion over the changes? Though how long we were stuck on Far Gosford St, it probably should.
4413 was delivered home on a tow truck about half 12.
Quote from: S570 on June 07, 2016, 06:28:32 PM
The 4 I caught on Saturday didn't, so maybe there was some confusion over the changes? Though how long we were stuck on Far Gosford St, it probably should.
4413 was delivered home on a tow truck about half 12.
Drivers have now been reminded of the correct route so this is not happening now.
The reference to Tridents on 11/12X all day workings as unusual workings reflects on poor performance of ex Walsall Enviro's.
Quote from: JoNi on June 10, 2016, 08:55:55 AM
The reference to Tridents on 11/12X all day workings as unusual workings reflects on poor performance of ex Walsall Enviro's.
Are they proving to be unreliable then?
I have had no luck in finding 4773 the last two times I have been over to Coventry. Is it off the road, or just my luck of not finding it?
Quote from: John on June 10, 2016, 01:12:28 PM
Are they proving to be unreliable then?
I have had no luck in finding 4773 the last two times I have been over to Coventry. Is it off the road, or just my luck of not finding it?
Your luck
Quote from: John on June 10, 2016, 01:12:28 PM
Are they proving to be unreliable then?
I have had no luck in finding 4773 the last two times I have been over to Coventry. Is it off the road, or just my luck of not finding it?
It hasn't been out for over a week, despite the other answer posted as though it was fact
How many times has 4774 broken down this week?
4775 and 4771 are also apparently off the road, a driver on the 11 told me!
Quote from: lauren1993 on June 10, 2016, 05:34:43 PM
4775 and 4771 are also apparently off the road, a driver on the 11 told me!
4771 been out on running board 11-03 all day, it was on 11-05 yesterday and the day before!
Thanks for the update on the bendies Tony. I had begun to think after my last two visits to Coventry that they were going the same way as the Scanias, but clearly not if 6015 has received a replacement engine.
Hale Street is due to closed on the 27th of June. No doubt lots of disruption will be caused there!
Is there any updates on 6020 meanwhile?
6020 still having work done to it!!
4764 was on 2's/3's last night
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/m52AL9
333 running shuttle to canal Bason every 30 minutes.
Quote from: Adam 404 on June 17, 2016, 04:54:58 PM
Hale Street is due to closed on the 27th of June. No doubt lots of disruption will be caused there!
http://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/temporary-diversions/hales-street-closure
New timetables on Traveline and seemingly a few interesting bits...
3rd July:
11/11U/12X - New University Holiday timetable has 20 minute daytime frequency for both 11 and 12X and only a limited number of 11U journeys at fringe times.
24th July:
2/3 - Summer timetable has one less bus, OK for summer I suppose, in fact it could be permanently ran with 4 buses if there wasn't so much routing in the City Centre.
5 - Permanent timetable does not show the Everdon Road loop, more bits of subsidised routes getting the chop.
Quote from: JPC on June 23, 2016, 06:53:35 PM
New timetables on Traveline and seemingly a few interesting bits...
3rd July:
11/11U/12X - New University Holiday timetable has 20 minute daytime frequency for both 11 and 12X and only a limited number of 11U journeys at fringe times.
24th July:
2/3 - Summer timetable has one less bus, OK for summer I suppose, in fact it could be permanently ran with 4 buses if there wasn't so much routing in the City Centre.
5 - Permanent timetable does not show the Everdon Road loop, more bits of subsidised routes getting the chop.
That day sees lots of Coventry related changes. They'd better get ready to remove the shelters/stops on Everdon Rd! (can't imagine NX Coventry drivers will be sorry to see that bit scrapped).
5 is to be fully commercialised with removal of Centro funding for Tile Hill South section of the route.
Destination displays on the route currently show Centro subsidised service as they scroll.
Another day another meeting of 4207 and the breakdown van.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/Rzq413
Quote from: JoNi on July 05, 2016, 03:08:57 PM
Another day another meeting of 4207 and the breakdown van.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/Rzq413
Today, 4207 was on Driver Training duties along with 1434
1434: https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.525648814273723.1073742221.369276339910972/562798473892090/?type=3&theater
4207: https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.472680966237175.1073742092.369276339910972/562799560558648/?type=3&theater
Service Changes from 24th July 2016
http://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/service-changes/service-changes-from-24th-july-2016?utm_source=homebanner&utm_campaign=service-changes-from-24th-july-2016&utm_medium=image
So service 10 joins the routes which avoid Far Gosford Street, assisting timekeeping will be cited I suppose and on that basis service 13 deserves to come next.
The 8 & 9 in theory should have remained going through FGS but no, that was first choice due to it's competitor, NX are obviously hoping DeCourcey will eventually make significant cutbacks and if the time comes I expect they will swap back the 8 and 9 with the 13.
The loss of service in Everdon Road has been reversed until a review in September. Therefore the 5 service will continue to serve here.
Meanwhile, 4689 has joined the "noisy club"
Interesting, I wonder if TFWM's initial decision to remove the service was based upon recent passenger statistics which possibly didn't take into account the recent closure(s) of Everdon Rd for several weeks.
4220 has got a new rear destination blind. It is orange matrix so no more "0" stuck on the back! It is on the 10 today.
Something has happened to 2172. Exactly what is unknown can someone shed some light on this?
https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.470448709793734.1073742074.369276339910972/566981603473777/?type=3&theater
Quote from: Adam 404 on July 22, 2016, 03:09:57 PM
Something has happened to 2172. Exactly what is unknown can someone shed some light on this?
https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.470448709793734.1073742074.369276339910972/566981603473777/?type=3&theater
Looks like a very large scrape to me! Either that or someone stuck out a large paintbrush while it was passing, can't really tell from the picture!
Quote from: Stu on July 22, 2016, 06:30:53 PM
Looks like a very large scrape to me! Either that or someone stuck out a large paintbrush while it was passing, can't really tell from the picture!
Another angle
@Stu https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.470448709793734.1073742074.369276339910972/566981603473777/?type=3&theater
Not sure if this is the right thread. But the bus stop/shelter erected directly opposite the Old Fire Station - has it seen any use yet? Are NXC planning (or any other operator) to stop here?
Looking at this: http://planning.coventry.gov.uk/portal/servlets/ApplicationSearchServlet?PKID=778649
Outdoor Advertising company Clear Channel have applied to install/embed an advertising panel into that shelter - logically enough as per the nearby stop on Hales St and others on Trinity Street and so on. But, bizarrely the application has been turned down by the planning dept of the council; "The proposal is considered unacceptable, as it would fail to preserve or enhance the character and appearance of the Conservation Area" (That dismal square and ugly Sainbury's form part of an Conservation Area! Who knew!). The council obviously have forgotten about the previous pair of Adshel shelters that stood at the same location for years with ads [which presumably they gave permission for].
Quote from: Adam 404 on July 21, 2016, 08:44:02 PM
The loss of service in Everdon Road has been reversed until a review in September. Therefore the 5 service will continue to serve here.
Meanwhile, 4689 has joined the "noisy club"
4689 hasnt returned to the noisy club, the cooling fans were coming on and off when I seen her today on the 10. This is due to hot weather.
4453 was on the 6/6A today.
Quote from: 2206 on August 03, 2016, 07:43:47 PM
4453 was on the 6/6A today.
Trident on a Trident route...
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on August 03, 2016, 11:37:52 PM
Trident on a Trident route...
I never said it was rare and I never posted it in the noteworthy workings thread.
@Ashley 60171.
It is in a different livery to all other Tridents (the 100 year livery which is the reason I posted it.
4453 is on 18/A it's gained a new blue advert for £400 drive a bus with us below the engine against the CCT livery background!
4885 still has its £353 full rear advert.
4424 now has £400 full rear advert by changing sticker on upper deck emergency exit window.
Quote from: JoNi on August 16, 2016, 09:58:36 AM
2/3 - 2174, 4842 (21 branded)
A Trident (or B7TL) also appeared on the 2, the 16:22 from City (seemingly), it caught up with previous 2 (871), the 3 in between them nowhere to been seen.
A 12/24 min summer frequency would have been far better than this rubbish reliability.
There was also 20 branded 2170 on the 2/3.
The service on the 2/3 was particularly bad this afternoon.
I live on the 2/3 and the schedule that delivers this poor service performance is due to lack of resilience which harks back to the the original dismal 2/3/3A schedule in 2012 that also failed to deliver the advertised service.
Caught 4692 the other day whilst in Coventry, have to be honest, it is one of the best buses I have been on in a long time. Very loud, nice sound as well, comfortable ride and well driven.
4403 towed in after breaking down on 16.
PD0001111/143 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Coventry City Centre and Bedworth given service number 20/20A/20E effective from 04-Sep-2016. To amend Timetable
Quote from: Adam 404 on July 21, 2016, 08:44:02 PM
The loss of service in Everdon Road has been reversed until a review in September. Therefore the 5 service will continue to serve here.
The 5 will continue to serve Everdon Road.
Quote from: Adam 404 on August 26, 2016, 02:31:27 PM
PD0001111/143 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Coventry City Centre and Bedworth given service number 20/20A/20E effective from 04-Sep-2016. To amend Timetable
"Timetable amendments"
21 also has timetable amendments.
Page 4 & 5
4695 is on 23 if anyone wants to sample a blast up Winsford Avenue.
Some new information regarding Coventry services 2, 3 and 23.....
(source (http://www.facebook.com/groups/prideinallesleypark/permalink/931798503598886/))
I am pleased to let you know that we are planning to improve the frequency of the 23 service, starting from the end of October.
We will be linking the route with the current services 2 and 3 which serve Cheylesmore / Fenside to create routes 23 & 23A.
This provides an additional cross city route and we will be operating the service with modern single deck vehicles identical to the ones currently on the 2 and 3.
The basic daytime frequency will be improved from every 15 minutes to every 10 minutes.
Quote from: JPC on August 30, 2016, 10:21:40 PM
Some new information regarding Coventry services 2, 3 and 23.....
(source (http://www.facebook.com/groups/prideinallesleypark/permalink/931798503598886/))
I am pleased to let you know that we are planning to improve the frequency of the 23 service, starting from the end of October.
We will be linking the route with the current services 2 and 3 which serve Cheylesmore / Fenside to create routes 23 & 23A.
This provides an additional cross city route and we will be operating the service with modern single deck vehicles identical to the ones currently on the 2 and 3.
The basic daytime frequency will be improved from every 15 minutes to every 10 minutes.
I assume that info is reliable, sounds like the numbers 2 & 3 are going (replaced by this new 23/23A). They cross-linked these services between Feb 2012 and June 2013 - so we've been here before. Modern single deck vehicles means the Enviro 200's presumably, including the five additions arriving soon. The improved frequency will be more attractive, although I don't know if Allesley Park needs a 10-minute service off-peak.
With the 1 going to Central Buses, NXC lowest numbered service could potentially start at No.4 !
Quote from: paulb1973 on August 30, 2016, 10:54:24 PM
I assume that info is reliable, sounds like the numbers 2 & 3 are going (replaced by this new 23/23A). They cross-linked these services between Feb 2012 and June 2013 - so we've been here before. Modern single deck vehicles means the Enviro 200's presumably, including the five additions arriving soon. The improved frequency will be more attractive, although I don't know if Allesley Park needs a 10-minute service off-peak.
With the 1 going to Central Buses, NXC lowest numbered service could potentially start at No.4 !
Well I think Allesley Park would be just as deserving as Fenside to have a off-peak 10 minute frequency, keeping service numbers 2 and 3 would be neater, simpler and a lesser number of stop flags to update than 23 and 23A but the Fenside routes no longer deserves top-level service numbers it seems... And Yes it is mildly annoying how a
newcomer to town has got service number 1 but I'll let them off seeing as they gave the best bid for it.
So having failed the first time with running a cross city service. I'm sure the residents of Cheylesmore will be underwhelmed when they find their service affected by traffic queues in Holyhead Road. This is typical of NXs hopeless inability to communicate with customers. It wouldn't be difficult to post a notice in the E200s. The real reason is Coventry garage has had E200s foisted of them with no routes to put them on. Painful....
Quote from: JoNi on August 31, 2016, 08:25:14 AM
So having failed the first time with running a cross city service. I'm sure the residents of Cheylesmore will be underwhelmed when they find their service affected by traffic queues in Holyhead Road. This is typical of NXs hopeless inability to communicate with customers. It wouldn't be difficult to post a notice in the E200s. The real reason is Coventry garage has had E200s foisted of them with no routes to put them on. Painful....
Completely wrong, they haven't had E200s foisted on them.
It always amuses me when NX managers accuse people I speak to as being liers. This is not the first time and with present cultures in NX I'm sure it won't be the last.
Complaint made to NXC after latest encounter with shoddy service on route 2/3 this afternoon.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/5i2K38
My father and myself have suffered disrupted journeys due to the summer service provided on Coventry services 2/3 has been consistently unreliable with buses often running together with journeys missing.
Will you provide me with a commitment that the Area Director will provide a notice of apology (A4 in size) on the back of the cab wall facing customers with name apologising for the shoddy service provided over the summer period and making a commitment to learn from the experience
All four number 2 buses were outside my house at once!
Gemini on the 5 tonight about 21:45 (4693 I think) missed the turning for Lythalls Lane and ended up diverting via Beacon Road. He had pulled over with hazards on so I'm assuming he was radioing it in.
I caught Enviro 200's 842 & 843 travelling along the Ring Road heading towards NX Coventry garage today (Sunday around 4.15pm) presumably the first of the new arrivals [unless one or both of 841/4 have already arrived].
Quote from: paulb1973 on September 04, 2016, 06:17:03 PM
I caught Enviro 200's 842 & 843 travelling along the Ring Road heading towards NX Coventry garage today (Sunday around 4.15pm) presumably the first of the new arrivals [unless one or both of 841/4 have already arrived].
I'd expect to see the majority of them out tomorrow with the extra PVR starting. The line of breakdowns at the back of the garage have been cleared in preparation for the new school year as well. Tomorrow will be an interesting day.
Quote from: JPC on August 30, 2016, 10:21:40 PM
Some new information regarding Coventry services 2, 3 and 23.....
(source (http://www.facebook.com/groups/prideinallesleypark/permalink/931798503598886/))
I am pleased to let you know that we are planning to improve the frequency of the 23 service, starting from the end of October.
We will be linking the route with the current services 2 and 3 which serve Cheylesmore / Fenside to create routes 23 & 23A.
This provides an additional cross city route and we will be operating the service with modern single deck vehicles identical to the ones currently on the 2 and 3.
The basic daytime frequency will be improved from every 15 minutes to every 10 minutes.
This will be happening from the 23rd of October 2016 according to TfWM
Refer to Page 14.
Thanks Adam.
the service 2/3 and 23 were combined before with terrible results, i guess this means the service to fenside will now always be late due to the traffic issues on the holyhead road in peak times
Quote from: Tony on September 07, 2016, 03:10:32 PM
6020 on the 4
As nobody else has commented on this, have I missed something, or is this just ironic? ;)
Quote from: Stu on September 07, 2016, 06:38:00 PM
As nobody else has commented on this, have I missed something, or is this just ironic? ;)
It hasn't been out since October 2015. That is how it has become Noteworthy.
Quote from: Adam 404 on September 07, 2016, 06:39:13 PM
It hasn't been out since October 2015. That is how it has become Noteworthy.
Yes, most of the noteworthy working listed have happened several times since 6020 was last on the 4!
Haha, now I see, an ironic noteworthy working! 8)
Quote from: Stu on September 07, 2016, 07:07:29 PM
Haha, now I see, an ironic noteworthy working! 8)
Don't give anybody any ideas! ;)
Quote from: Twi on September 07, 2016, 12:33:46 AM
the service 2/3 and 23 were combined before with terrible results, i guess this means the service to fenside will now always be late due to the traffic issues on the holyhead road in peak times
Well I disagree with that, the 2012-13 version of service 2 was good performer in contrast to the 3 and 3A which was absolutely terrible in comparison.
I suppose peoples opinions vary and can depend on their usual travel times.
Apparently the 23/23A City Centre timing point is going to be The Burges in both directions :-\
The 3/A was operated by B6s at the time which didn't help!
The best every daytime 7-8 minute integrated service to Cheylesmore on services 2, 3/A in 2012 looked wonderful on paper but the reality two buses every 15 minutes.
The meal relief point on 23/A will presumably be in the Burges, in both directions!
E200s
842 - 10
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/WNB0k7
and save anyone the effort of texting me
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/4tbH74
843 - 2
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/799042
844 - 27A (Make a nice timetable cover)
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/CTQNz4
Are there any more 47 or 48 series E400's on their way to Coventry any time soon as a replacement for the Gemini's ?
Quote from: TT90 on September 11, 2016, 02:34:38 PM
Are there any more 47 or 48 series E400's on their way to Coventry any time soon as a replacement for the Gemini's ?
You've had E200s
Quote from: Dom on September 12, 2016, 08:07:45 AM
You've had E200s
5 e200s for 10 geminis
Really use your loaf
Quote from: 900 on September 12, 2016, 11:29:02 AM
5 e200s for 10 geminis
Really use your loaf
10 x Gemini's haven't left NXC, only 4!
Assume vehicle requirement will increase with university term restarting in a couple of weeks.
Quote from: Winston on September 12, 2016, 11:31:24 AM
10 x Gemini's haven't left NXC, only 4!
Exactly
@900 there is no point sending all the replacement vehicles over straight away is there? Use your brain!
Logically, before the last Gemini's leaves, 4830 - 4842 will be repainted with 840 and the other 5 buses (Which I know about) being "Paint cover".
One of the probable reasons there was a need for additional buses is an extra bus has been put on the 20 route.
841/2/4 on 5 today and 843/5 on 2/3.
4696 has joined the noisy club.
Received reply from NX regarding putting up poster on buses re poor summer service on routes 2/3. Apparently it is not company policy to apologise to customers unless they write in!
840 appears to be in service at Coventry already, currently heading down Anstey Road from Cross Point Business Park
Thanks Tony, on 2/3 board that stays out till Midnight
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/BqKL6k
New 23/23A timetable now on traveline...
Existing city centre stops will be utilised (except FX2 and Pool Meadow) well up until the bus veers off towards Allesley Park (in the eyes of existing 2/3 users), so a bit awkward for some users travelling between Cheylesmore/Fenside and City, for example users can no longer travel from Fenside to the Queen Victoria Road area unless they change bus or enjoy walking. Also not very handy for Allesley Park users who want to change for another service in Pool Meadow.
This all ties in with the removal of stand FX2 soon due to further phases of council public realm pavement widening tosh!
Lastly, the Sunday 0928 service 23 from Allesley Park is meant to be a 23A is it not?
Quite why the 2/3 couldn't be extended to Allesley Park as the bus stop flags would then only need to be changed at that end of the route instead of along the whole route! A classic example of wasting money in supposed straightened times!
Information on the 23 & 23A services here: http://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/service-changes/improvements-to-2-3-23-services-from-sunday-23rd-october?utm_source=homebanner&utm_campaign=improvements-to-2-3-23-services-from-sunday-23rd-october&utm_medium=image
2169 has a different Ultimate destination font similar to Platinum resulting in Bedworth being narrower than "via Foleshill".
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/G7sDRr
21 branded E400 currently at Carlyle in Great Bridge
Quote from: Dom on October 17, 2016, 08:47:12 AM
21 branded E400 currently at Carlyle in Great Bridge
4839 as it was involved in an RTC last week.
The 4 is 100% bendi today. First time I have noticed that for a bit
From Sunday service 21 towards Wood End will move from stand HS2 to HS3 opposite the old fire station putting that shelter into use at last.
NXC suggests unauthorised parking as the excuse (http://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/service-changes/21-city-centre-stop-change) :) ....but the real reason is to accommodate service 23/23A.
Quote from: JPC on October 20, 2016, 06:41:34 PM
From Sunday service 21 towards Wood End will move from stand HS2 to HS3 opposite the old fire station putting that shelter into use at last.
NXC suggests unauthorised parking as the excuse (http://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/service-changes/21-city-centre-stop-change) :) ....but the real reason is to accommodate service 23/23A.
That stop was erected some time ago - more recently its become a rest area for weary shoppers and the layby alongside an unofficial pick-up point. Ad company Clear Channel tried to place an advert panel to that stop but they were refused by the Council, as the area has been deemed a 'Conservation Area' (!). I am sure the 21 to Wood End has used that location previously. Re. the unauthorised parking at stop HS2 - not sure about 'unauthorised' - but lots of parking takes place there, mainly by buses!
16/16A destination displays towards Warwickshire Shopping Park now display Via points on their own page as it revolves between "Warwickshire Shopping Park" and "Via City Centre & Hillfields"
Like this: https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.375534589285147.1073741878.369276339910972/607360266102577/?type=3&theater
Also, 9 & 9A side destinations scroll now displaying "9A Leasowes Avenue via City Centre & Rail Station"
the unauthroised parking is stagecoach buses namely 57's, 55's and 48's on layover
Most ex Wolverhampton E200 rebranded for 23/A.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/J7Dh0V
Quote from: JoNi on November 02, 2016, 11:05:38 AM
Most ex Wolverhampton Darts are branded for 23/A.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/J7Dh0V
Or even E200s
Point taken. It's a small box I can't see out of the back of now!
Quote from: JoNi on November 02, 2016, 02:46:17 PM
Point taken. It's a small box I can't see out of the back of now!
Haha :)
874 returned from a few weeks off today replacing 873 which had an issue in the City Centre earlier. As it had been off for such a long time, its destination display hadn't been updated so is displaying "23 City Centre" when going to Fenside. Not sure what it is doing for 23A though...
https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.436337133204892.1073741997.369276339910972/615509641954306/?type=3&theater
It took a few years, but it is finally back at Coventry
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4218.html
Quote from: Tony on November 07, 2016, 08:52:08 PM
It took a few years, but it is finally back at Coventry
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4218.html
This will be its first time in blue.
Was it 4396 onwards that were delivered in Blue or was it 4405 onwards? (or am I wrong on both?)
Quote from: MW on November 08, 2016, 10:08:49 PM
Was it 4396 onwards that were delivered in Blue or was it 4405 onwards? (or am I wrong on both?)
4396 and co started arriving from October 2002 - that was around the time when Coventry went 'blue'. I can't remember now, only 4203-24 in red is actually ringing bells (off to Flickr to have a quick search - but there are surprisingly few pictures of the 2001-2 Coventry red era on there).
Quote from: paulb1973 on November 08, 2016, 10:14:42 PM
4396 and co started arriving from October 2002 - that was around the time when Coventry went 'blue'. I can't remember now, only 4203-24 in red is actually ringing bells (off to Flickr to have a quick search - but there are surprisingly few pictures of the 2001-2 Coventry red era on there).
They were delivered with the red livery-I've got pictures of some of them in the original pre Coventry livery and many of the rest in varying Coventry liveries.
Looking at my albums of the time, 4203 - 4224 were in red, blue and white. 4203 is numerically Coventry's oldest bus today. The first buses in the Travel Coventry blue and white were 4396-4404. The day, December 9th 2002 that Bernard Delaney the new Coventrry manager launched Travel Coventry in front of bus 4400. New buses, 4396,4398,4399,4403 were lined up at the depot and later that afternoon went into service.
Quote from: t.w.moore on November 09, 2016, 12:50:32 PM
Looking at my albums of the time, 4203 - 4224 were in red, blue and white. 4203 is numerically Coventry's oldest bus today. The first buses in the Travel Coventry blue and white were 4396-4404. The day, December 9th 2002 that Bernard Delaney the new Coventrry manager launched Travel Coventry in front of bus 4400. New buses, 4396,4398,4399,4403 were lined up at the depot and later that afternoon went into service.
There's no longer a bus dedicated to Bernard Delaney since 1875 was transferred. I would've thought they would dedicate 2175 to him but still nothing.
Is Bernard Delaney still around...lovely bloke and a true bus man!?
Bumped into by friend in B&Q about six months ago.
I am writing captions for my latest pictures of the Wolverhampton buses 840-844 that have been transferred to Coventry. Its the mechanical details I need, like, have they 4cylinder or 6cylinder Cumming engines, and do they have Voith, ZF or Allison automatic transmission. Would someone reply.
Quote from: t.w.moore on November 10, 2016, 08:22:10 PM
I am writing captions for my latest pictures of the Wolverhampton buses 840-844 that have been transferred to Coventry. Its the mechanical details I need, like, have they 4cylinder or 6cylinder Cumming engines, and do they have Voith, ZF or Allison automatic transmission. Would someone reply.
Voith gearboxes. Not sure on the cylinders.
4839 has made a return today with a new front.
https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.478185659020039.1073742125.369276339910972/618911544947449/?type=3&theater
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on November 10, 2016, 08:50:11 PM
Voith gearboxes. Not sure on the cylinders.
They're the 4cyl engines, the 6cyl ones sound more like an E300 (probably the same engine actually).
Quote from: t.w.moore on November 10, 2016, 08:22:10 PM
I am writing captions for my latest pictures of the Wolverhampton buses 840-844 that have been transferred to Coventry. Its the mechanical details I need, like, have they 4cylinder or 6cylinder Cumming engines, and do they have Voith, ZF or Allison automatic transmission. Would someone reply.
4 Cylinder 140bhp (Yes, thats it.. ADL for ya) on a Voith gearbox. The 6 Cylinder is the engine which is found in the Enviro400s for example.
Friday & Saturday evening journeys are to be introduced on the 12X service.
http://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/service-changes/more-late-evening-journeys-on-the-12x
4892 (8A) had to load on the 11/11U/12X stand in Pool Meadow just now as the door for the 8/8A/9/9A's stand is locked for some reason
Has 4218 ventured out in service yet?
4882 is now at Coventry
Been advised 4882 seen on 13 today.
4396 has bright full rear advert for City College on 23/23A this afternoon.
Quote from: JoNi on December 06, 2016, 02:46:12 PM
Been advised 4882 seen on 13 today.
4881 & 4882 are both on the 13
4396 with new ad seen on 2!
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/pM229P
Quote from: JoNi on December 06, 2016, 08:54:00 PM
4396 with new ad seen on 2!
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/pM229P
2176; 2177 have the same add (only smaller)
4884 on 10
4883 now at Cov
4695 on 6/A today.
New Year Day services with hourly headways on core routes.
Every 30 minutes on 20 and 21.
Enviros on 6A, 8A, 10, 11, 13, 18, 21
with 4889 and 4831 working two hour cycle 23 Allesley Park, 5, 23 Fenside
B7s on 4, 9/A, 16 and 20/A.
I think the Wheatley St depot is now celebrating 30 years of use? It replaced the former Sandy Lane [ho ho ho!] and Harnall Lane depots.
Quote from: Sandy Lane on January 06, 2017, 11:51:46 PM
I think the Wheatley St depot is now celebrating 30 years of use? It replaced the former Sandy Lane [ho ho ho!] and Harnall Lane depots.
Opened March 1986 - 31 years fairly soon.
There was a short article about Coventry's depot in Coach&Bus weekly, last week, telling of 3 decades of the depot that have grown to hold 139 buses, 19 bus routes and 450 employee ands 26 different nationalities. There's a picture of Phil Bateman, returning to the foundation Stone to mark the 30th aniversary, he was
chairman of West Midlands County Council.
Quote from: t.w.moore on January 09, 2017, 12:17:18 PM
There was a short article about Coventry's depot in Coach&Bus weekly, last week, telling of 3 decades of the depot that have grown to hold 139 buses, 19 bus routes and 450 employee ands 26 different nationalities. There's a picture of Phil Bateman, returning to the foundation Stone to mark the 30th aniversary, he was
chairman of West Midlands County Council.
The fleet total - the numbers of buses based at Wheatley Street is around 155 today (but it was over 190 in early 1987). I guess the period straight after Harnall Lane East closed and before Sandy Lane closed (i.e. March - Oct 1986) it was slightly lower. I don't actually know how many vehicles were based at the older garages prior to closure, but combined it was probably well over 200.
I assume the 139 buses at Coventry mentioned in Coach and Bus Weekly is the pvr.
Quote from: Eric Shaw on January 09, 2017, 05:30:03 PM
I assume the 139 buses at Coventry mentioned in Coach and Bus Weekly is the pvr.
A requirement of around 140 (with 155 buses altogether) sounds about right. 139 doesn't actually sound very big when you think of Coventry's population(300,000+) but I suppose it isn't huge geographically, and there are other operators.
Using the number of buses operated from Coventry garage is a very poor comparison with 30 years ago as increased congestion has required more buses to undertake fewer journeys.
A better comparison would be the number of journeys operated, reflecting how frequent evening services are a shadow of what they used to be.
Better still the number of passengers carried reflecting industrial change, loss of school bus work, the 192 group, tenders for services like the 1 and 801 would be a better comparison.
The fact buses operate to Leamington also reduces the number of buses that serve citizens.
Statistics can be made to mean anything.
Quote from: JoNi on January 09, 2017, 07:37:37 PM
Using the number of buses operated from Coventry garage is a very poor comparison with 30 years ago as increased congestion has required more buses to undertake fewer journeys.
A better comparison would be the number of journeys operated, reflecting how frequent evening services are a shadow of what they used to be.
Better still the number of passengers carried reflecting industrial change, loss of school bus work, the 192 group, tenders for services like the 1 and 801 would be a better comparison.
The fact buses operate to Leamington also reduces the number of buses that serve citizens.
Statistics can be made to mean anything.
Yeah, I agree with that. Looking at just garage vehicle totals is very simplistic indeed. Add to the above - buses are generally more reliable compared to 20-30 years ago I assume (amongst many other reasons as you allude to). I'm sure around 1994 WT had about 165-170 buses - which isn't hugely different from today.
I was interested in previous comments so decided to have a look back myself!
I have counted manually from my fleet-lists so I may be a few out, but it seem that in July 1986 just prior to deregulation there were 112 buses allocated to Wheatley Street and 111 allocated to Sandy Lane to give a total of 223 buses allocated to Coventy.
Just over 19 years ago in October 1997 there were 173 allocated to Wheratley Street
Quote from: D10 on January 10, 2017, 08:44:23 PM
I was interested in previous comments so decided to have a look back myself!
I have counted manually from my fleet-lists so I may be a few out, but it seem that in July 1986 just prior to deregulation there were 112 buses allocated to Wheatley Street and 111 allocated to Sandy Lane to give a total of 223 buses allocated to Coventy.
Just over 19 years ago in October 1997 there were 173 allocated to Wheratley Street
Wheatley Street was designed to hold 140 buses (according to my West Midlands PTE book by Malcolm Keeley, I seem to recall). So you could say it was slightly under capacity upon opening, but quite a bit over once Sandy Lane had closed. Finding new homes for 111 vehicles sounds like quite a task.
Ten or so years before (1/1/87) the total (WT only by then) was 191 - we had most of 6582-91/6635-37 still here at that point, so some 30-odd buses had gone on or around deregulation. There has been a gentle fall in the totals since 1987 seemingly - but really a small steady decline.
Quote from: paulb1973 on January 07, 2017, 12:32:08 AM
Opened March 1986 - 31 years fairly soon.
Quote from the TC web site.
2016 marked 30 years of operation for Coventry bus depot at Pool Meadow. These days, National Express UK Bus employs 450 people in Coventry, running 139 buses on 19 routes, plus school services.
Councillor Phil Bateman was Chair of the old West Midlands County Council Passenger Transport Committee and laid the foundation stone at the start of the grand project back in March 1985. He says the garage was a big deal for the city and for the bus company.
"Coventry bus station was the first purpose-built bus depot in the West Midlands. Buses in Coventry had been based at Sandy Lane and Harnall Lane garages before this, in old, dilapidated buildings where the rain came in. It was state-of-the art - so exciting - with a purpose-built canteen and social club, which are still there.
"We called it Wheatley Street garage back then, after the street where the grain warehouse was - that's disappeared off the map now."
The garage has seen many other big changes in the last 30 years.
"The bus industry has really benefited from the waves of people who've come to the West Midlands to live and work," says Phil. "In the late '90s, we were finding it difficult to find and recruit bus drivers, so we were extremely grateful for the arrival of the Poles. And there are still 26 nationalities at work here in Coventry bus depot today."
Many of the drivers at Coventry garage have been working there for years and have seen a lot of changes to the bus industry.
"We got radios in the 1980s," says Coventry bus driver Bob Walker. "That was a big change for us. Being able to talk to someone back at the depot made us feel much more connected.
"But the biggest change, I think, has been in how comfortable the buses are these days. I think they're much nicer for the passengers now."
During the '90s, bendy buses ran on the streets of Coventry - taking passengers to the hospital and the station.
And in the early 2000s, National Express scrapped the "toothpaste" livery and painted all the buses Coventry blue - the colour of the famous cloth produced in the city.
Despite all the changes, Councillor Bateman believes:
"This industry will always have a future. If you work in transport, you'll always have an interesting job. Transport holds everything together. It's a big industry but it feels small - everyone knows each other and people don't get forgotten."
Published 3rd January 2017
http://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/news/coventry-bus-garage-30-years-of-service
Quote from: paulb1973 on January 10, 2017, 09:19:11 PM
Wheatley Street was designed to hold 140 buses (according to my West Midlands PTE book by Malcolm Keeley, I seem to recall). So you could say it was slightly under capacity upon opening, but quite a bit over once Sandy Lane had closed. Finding new homes for 111 vehicles sounds like quite a task.
Ten or so years before (1/1/87) the total (WT only by then) was 191 - we had most of 6582-91/6635-37 still here at that point, so some 30-odd buses had gone on or around deregulation. There has been a gentle fall in the totals since 1987 seemingly - but really a small steady decline.
An interesting comparison from Malcolm Keeley's West Midlands PTE book (1988) "the takeover of the Coventry undertaking (April 1974) increased the fleet by slightly over 300 vehicles to around 2600 buses". So around 300 at that date.
After delivery of the last new Fleetlines (end of 1978), the fleet comprised 95 Fleetlines new (or nearly in the case of 6721-6740); 160 Fleetlines new to Coventry Transport, 19 Atlanteans, 3 BCT trial batch Fleetlines, 10 rear entrance buses, and a handful of single deckers including one coach - say around 290 vehicles (note that there may have been 10 or so Coventry vehicles in operation elsewhere in the West Midlands for one reason or another including engineering disputes!)
The real reductions resulted from the extensive closures of manufacturing in the early 80s (Coventry ran a lot of works services), requirements to save finance owing to Government dictates in the early 80s by raising fares and cutting services across the West Midlands (on one occasion by 10% in one year) and then deregulation in 1986. You would be forgiven for thinking the Government of the day wasn't terribly keen on public transport. Thankfully times have changed!
Problems with complaints about noise pollution from the residential area around Harnall Lane garage, and a planned new bus garage at Wheatley Street appeared in the published transport plan for the West Midlands County Council (as was) from the mid 70s. All of this predated the Sky Blue Way/Foleshill Link Road to the M6 which was an 80s development, so traffic congestion was pretty awful even in the 1970s, with little or no bus priority.
Quote from: don on January 12, 2017, 01:01:55 AM
An interesting comparison from Malcolm Keeley's West Midlands PTE book (1988) "the takeover of the Coventry undertaking (April 1974) increased the fleet by slightly over 300 vehicles to around 2600 buses". So around 300 at that date.
After delivery of the last new Fleetlines (end of 1978), the fleet comprised 95 Fleetlines new (or nearly in the case of 6721-6740); 160 Fleetlines new to Coventry Transport, 19 Atlanteans, 3 BCT trial batch Fleetlines, 10 rear entrance buses, and a handful of single deckers including one coach - say around 290 vehicles (note that there may have been 10 or so Coventry vehicles in operation elsewhere in the West Midlands for one reason or another including engineering disputes!)
The real reductions resulted from the extensive closures of manufacturing in the early 80s (Coventry ran a lot of works services), requirements to save finance owing to Government dictates in the early 80s by raising fares and cutting services across the West Midlands (on one occasion by 10% in one year) and then deregulation in 1986. You would be forgiven for thinking the Government of the day wasn't terribly keen on public transport. Thankfully times have changed!
Problems with complaints about noise pollution from the residential area around Harnall Lane garage, and a planned new bus garage at Wheatley Street appeared in the published transport plan for the West Midlands County Council (as was) from the mid 70s. All of this predated the Sky Blue Way/Foleshill Link Road to the M6 which was an 80s development, so traffic congestion was pretty awful even in the 1970s, with little or no bus priority.
It would seem the fleet total didn't change greatly throughout the 1970's. The 95 Fleetlines taken on new I assume would be; 4447-66, 6721-60, 6916-35/62-71/84-89 [did a few 69xx examples arrive in 1979?]. The huge collection of ex-Coventry Transport Fleetlines would include 1Y to 142Y and the later batch of twenty-two Willowbrook bodied Fleetlines 360Y-381Y [less any withdrawals or those sent temporarily elsewhere]. The Altlanteans remaining would be the rump of 338Y-359Y - I know 339 was written-off c.1970 by fire. I assume all of 1-142 survived intact, in other words not scrapped, until around 1978.
Quote from: paulb1973 on January 12, 2017, 03:00:03 PM
It would seem the fleet total didn't change greatly throughout the 1970's. The 95 Fleetlines taken on new I assume would be; 4447-66, 6721-60, 6916-35/62-71/84-89 [did a few 69xx examples arrive in 1979?]. The huge collection of ex-Coventry Transport Fleetlines would include 1Y to 142Y and the later batch of twenty-two Willowbrook bodied Fleetlines 360Y-381Y [less any withdrawals or those sent temporarily elsewhere]. The Altlanteans remaining would be the rump of 338Y-359Y - I know 339 was written-off c.1970 by fire. I assume all of 1-142 survived intact, in other words not scrapped, until around 1978.
Yes that's about it. There were a handful of the 338-380 batches withdrawn in 1978, then around 18 of the 1-22 batch were withdrawn in 1979 along with the last rear platform buses. The BCT Fleetlines were 3241, 3243 and 3244 (Fleetline 3241 was the third complete bus from the production line). The matter was also confused in 1979 by 7 or so ex CCT Fleetlines moving to Selly Oak owing to the dispute, whilst five ex Hull Atlanteans, and PTE Fleetlines 4051-4054 also arrived. And of course, the first couple of Coventry's regular intake of Metrobuses arrived in December.
So 1978 was a pretty stable point and easier to count! Do you know which Leyland Nationals were there (I think it was a couple from 6836-6850 and maybe a dual purpose one).
It's possible some of 6984-89 were delivered but not in service until the start of 1979. 6998-7000 were delivered in Jan 1979 (also entering service in Jan - at Walsall).
In March 1977 the allocations at S and H were:
1-41Y S; 42Y H; 43Y S; 44Y H; 45Y S; 46Y H; 47Y S; 48Y H; 49-76Y S; 77-142Y H; 246Y H; 249Y H; 253Y S; 254Y H; 255Y S; 256Y H; 257Y S; 258Y H; 259/61Y S; 264Y H; 265Y S; 266-337Y odd S; even H; 338/40-59Y H; 365-381Y, 407Y S; 408Y H; 4447-4461 H; 4462-4466 S; 5877 H
These ex Coventry buses were elsewhere - 1211/20/4/5/9/32-5/42/5/7/8, 1250-2/63 AG; 1360-4 DY;
The last CVG6s were withdrawn in 1979 and withdrawal of the first of the Atlanteans and 3xxY batch of Fleetlines took place in 1978. 1-22Y withdrawals started in 1979.
by mid 1980 allocations were (Coventry buses were renumbered in the 1xxx series in late 1979):
1002/3/11/3/5/20 S; 1023-1040 H; 1041-1060 S; 1061-1076 H; 1077-1094 S; 1095-1142 H; 1338/40-2/4/5/7/54-6/9 S; 1360-1362 H; 1363-1370 S; 1371 H; 1373-5/9/80 S; 3244 H; 4447-4466 S; 6721-6740 S; 6741-6760 H; 6832 H; 6844/5 H; 6846 S; 6851 H; 6854 H; 6856 H; 6916-6935 S; 6962-6971 H; 6984-6989 H (6721-6740 coming via AG)
By March 1984:
1077/9/81 S; 1082 H; 1083/5/7/9 S; 1090 H; 1091/3/5/7 S; 1098-1125 odd S; even H; 1127 S; 1128 H; 1129 S; 1130 H; 1131 S; 1132 H; 1133 S; 1134 H; 1135 S; 1136 H; 1137 S; 1138/40/2 H; 2016-2031 odd S; even H; 2106-2116 odd S; even H; 2156-2167 odd S; even H; 2195-2199 odd S; even H; 2451-2468 odd S; even H; 2611-2618 odd S; even H; 2626-2635 odd S; even H; 4447-53/5-4466 odd S; even H; 6721-6760 odd S; even H; 6832 H; 6844-6846 H; 6851H; 6854 H; 6856 H; 6916-6935 odd S; even H; 6962-6971 odd S; even H; 6984-6989 odd S; even H
and by July 1986 (3 months before D-Day, NB single deckers numbered into 1xxx series in 1985 with no overlap with remaining Coventry buses)
1105 H; 1111 S; 1127/32 H; 1135 S; 1136 H; 1140 H; 1844/5 S; 1846 H; 1851/2 H; 1854 H; 1856 H; 2016-2031 odd S; even H; 2106-2116 odd S; even H; 2156-2165 odd S; even H; 2167/8 odd S; even H; 2195-2199 odd S; even H; 2263 H; 2451-2468 odd S;even H; 2611-2618 odd S; even H; 2626-2635 odd S; even H; 2763-2772 odd S; even H; 2837-2840 odd S; even H; 2862-2868 odd S; even H; 2877-2879 odd S; even H; 2885 S; 2886 H; 2891-2898 odd S; even H; 4447-9/51-3/5-4466 odd S; even H; 6721-6760 odd S; even H; 6916-6935 odd S; even H; 6962-6971 odd S; even H; 6984-6989 odd S; even H
The most unusual allocation was the allocation of 5877 a BMMO S21 as a back up coach for a period in 1977!
Quote from: busfan2847 on January 12, 2017, 04:18:35 PM
by mid 1980 allocations were (Coventry buses were renumbered in the 1xxx series in late 1979):
1002/3/11/3/5/20 S; 1023-1040 H; 1041-1060 S; 1061-1076 H; 1077-1094 S; 1095-1142 H; 1338/40-2/4/5/7/54-6/9 S; 1360-1362 H; 1363-1370 S; 1371 H; 1373-5/9/80 S; 3244 H; 4447-4466 S; 6721-6740 S; 6741-6760 H; 6832 H; 6844/5 H; 6846 S; 6851 H; 6854 H; 6856 H; 6916-6935 S; 6962-6971 H; 6984-6989 H (6721-6740 coming via AG)
The most unusual allocation was the allocation of 5877 a BMMO S21 as a back up coach for a period in 1977!
These are very comprehensive lists, and yes, 5877 was extraordinary, replicated at Selly Oak as well!! It clarifies the allocations of Nationals, thanks.
Should the mid 1980 list include the V reg Metrobuses (2016-2031), and Leyland Titan 7005? Presumably the Hull Atlanteans had gone by then.
The "mid-1980" list did not include any Metrobuses so perhaps it was closer to early 1980, although the SO vehicles were delivered in late 1979 so should be there. I will have to check the Fleetlist again tonight.
All of the 5 Titans were at PB by the time of this list.
The Hull Atlanteans were withdrawn between 1976 and 1979.
I assume buses allocated to 'H' in July 86 might well have been Wheatley Street's initial allocation of buses as Harnall Lane had closed in March 1986. So some ex-Coventry Transport Fleetlines (1105/27/32/36/40 potentially) were based with WT albeit briefly. Unless a late reshuffle was instigated.
Metrobus 2168 was clearly a later arrival compared to sisters 2156-67. 2263 I assume was an advert bus. I know Mk1's 2106-2110** and 2195-99 along with a number of 69xx Fleetlines were presumably deemed surplus and didn't operate in the city after deregulation. The remaining survivors of 4447-66 went too.
The inclusion of Dudley based 2619 is interesting - I'm sure this bus had two lengthy spells in Coventry [the second one was after DY had closed for good I recall] the first one was around 1989/90, perhaps it was here to cover for long-term absentee 2629 with its Barclays advert/s? I remember it operating in blue/cream in the first period. Was it a Coventry bus originally? On a similar theme, WT lost 2611 but gained sister 2610 from YW around 1990 - I never understood why that swap/transfer took place!
(** I had thought Cov got 2105-2116, is that a typo, should '2106' read 2105 ?)
Quote from: busfan2847 on January 12, 2017, 06:21:07 PM
The "mid-1980" list did not include any Metrobuses so perhaps it was closer to early 1980, although the SO vehicles were delivered in late 1979 so should be there. I will have to check the Fleetlist again tonight.
All of the 5 Titans were at PB by the time of this list.
The Hull Atlanteans were withdrawn between 1976 and 1979.
The five Hull Atlanteans appear to have a short term allocation between Jan and Mar 79 whilst 7005 moved in January 1980 to PB. The first two of Coventry's first batch of Metrobuses were in service in 1979 so you'd expect the others to have turned up in Jan 80.
Was 2168 originally a Black Country bus (DY?)
Quote from: don on January 12, 2017, 11:20:03 PM
The five Hull Atlanteans appear to have a short term allocation between Jan and Mar 79 whilst 7005 moved in January 1980 to PB. The first two of Coventry's first batch of Metrobuses were in service in 1979 so you'd expect the others to have turned up in Jan 80.
Was 2168 originally a Black Country bus (DY?)
I think you are correct.
I have a few notes on the Coventry Mk1 Metrobuses; for 2168's allocations I have this (using various published fleet lists - but I have quite big time gaps)
New to DY [1/81] -> HN [date?] -> WT [3/86] -> BC [at 1990 & 4/93] -> On-loan to Stevensons [at 5/95 & 7/95] -> QN? -> YW [at 11/97 & 2/98 & summer 98 & 12/98 & 7/99] -> u [at 6/00 & 9/00] -> Sold to PVS, Barnsley for scrap, 2000.
Quote from: busfan2847 on January 12, 2017, 06:21:07 PM
The "mid-1980" list did not include any Metrobuses so perhaps it was closer to early 1980, although the SO vehicles were delivered in late 1979 so should be there. I will have to check the Fleetlist again tonight.
All of the 5 Titans were at PB by the time of this list.
The Hull Atlanteans were withdrawn between 1976 and 1979.
OK I had missed 2001-2075 in the DJS summer 1980 fleetlist, which were in service. 2016-2031 were at H.
Reading through the lists with much interest. The odd/even fleet number split between Sandy Lane and Harnall Lane that had existed in the past and was discontinued in the late 1960's was brought back in during the 1980's but going by the lists this hadn't happened by mid 1980 (buses still allocated in batches or in some cases randomly) but by 1984 the odd/even split was back. Does anyone have an exact date this happened? Been asking this for a while but no definite answers so far.
Quote from: 4130Quinton on January 17, 2017, 04:17:30 PM
Reading through the lists with much interest. The odd/even fleet number split between Sandy Lane and Harnall Lane that had existed in the past and was discontinued in the late 1960's was brought back in during the 1980's but going by the lists this hadn't happened by mid 1980 (buses still allocated in batches or in some cases randomly) but by 1984 the odd/even split was back. Does anyone have an exact date this happened? Been asking this for a while but no definite answers so far.
I was going to say the same thing. Sometime between early 1980 and 1984, a whole raft of criss-cross transfers must have taken place!
A few other thoughts; on the 1986 fleet list Leyland National 1852 is listed - I don't recall that one operating in Coventry at that time? (did 6845 - later 1845, begin its life here in Coventry? Perhaps that was an Easyrider conversion before being sent elsewhere). I have a 1987 WMT list and neither of those two are listed. Dennis Lancets 1053-54 are missing (originally numbered 7053/4 of-course). They arrived in 1985 to operate the Easyrider services, so they must have been present in 1986. With 2166 not appearing and 2263 being in the '86 list - I assume one of those was an advert bus and they were swapped for each other.
Quote from: 4130Quinton on January 17, 2017, 04:17:30 PM
Reading through the lists with much interest. The odd/even fleet number split between Sandy Lane and Harnall Lane that had existed in the past and was discontinued in the late 1960's was brought back in during the 1980's but going by the lists this hadn't happened by mid 1980 (buses still allocated in batches or in some cases randomly) but by 1984 the odd/even split was back. Does anyone have an exact date this happened? Been asking this for a while but no definite answers so far.
I do not know for sure, but I have marked up the DJS fleetlist to be an odd / even split so likely happened in late 1980 or early 1981. Certainly the next batch of Metrobuses 2156-2167 were delivered split odd and even and they arrived January 1981.
Quote from: busfan2847 on January 17, 2017, 09:04:44 PM
I do not know for sure, but I have marked up the DJS fleetlist to be an odd / even split so likely happened in late 1980 or early 1981. Certainly the next batch of Metrobuses 2156-2167 were delivered split odd and even and they arrived January 1981.
It was done to appease the unions, so neither garage could say it was the poor relation
Quote from: paulb1973 on January 17, 2017, 08:05:17 PM
I was going to say the same thing. Sometime between early 1980 and 1984, a whole raft of criss-cross transfers must have taken place!
A few other thoughts; on the 1986 fleet list Leyland National 1852 is listed - I don't recall that one operating in Coventry at that time? (did 6845 - later 1845, begin its life here in Coventry? Perhaps that was an Easyrider conversion before being sent elsewhere). I have a 1987 WMT list and neither of those two are listed. Dennis Lancets 1053-54 are missing (originally numbered 7053/4 of-course). They arrived in 1985 to operate the Easyrider services, so they must have been present in 1986. With 2166 not appearing and 2263 being in the '86 list - I assume one of those was an advert bus and they were swapped for each other.
1852 moved from Coventry to Hartshill by October 1986. 1845 was an Easyrider conversion and was stored by March 1987. Yes you are correct I missed 1053/4 which were at S in July 1986. The list is of all WMPTE allocations at that time so it is easy to miss vehicles! I cannot remember if 2263 was an advert bus but it had swapped back to Wolverhampton by March 1987, so it probably was (2166 was still at Wolverhampton as well).
Quote from: busfan2847 on January 17, 2017, 09:39:55 PM
1852 moved from Coventry to Hartshill by October 1986. 1845 was an Easyrider conversion and was stored by March 1987. Yes you are correct I missed 1053/4 which were at S in July 1986. The list is of all WMPTE allocations at that time so it is easy to miss vehicles! I cannot remember if 2263 was an advert bus but it had swapped back to Wolverhampton by March 1987, so it probably was (2166 was still at Wolverhampton as well).
Thanks for that re. 1852 & 1845, looks like 1852 arrived in Cov after March 1984 and obviously prior to July 1986. While I was around in the 1980s - my interest in the scene really started at the beginning of the WMT era. I always associate the two Lancets with Wheatley St, but they did arrive before it opened.
The inclusion of 2619 is interesting, I thought that one was a Dudley bus and came much later on.
Going back to 1977, CVG6's 1211/20/4/5/9/32-5/42/5/50-2 are at Acocks Green; but 1247/8/63 were also at AG but listed separately. Were one batch gone permanently and the other temporarily? Is there is a distinction between the two?
The only other query is the omission of Metrobus 2105, which I thought was a Coventry bus part of the 2105-2116 batch (or maybe it wasn't!). Was that based at HN/SY and if it was - did it leave earlier than some of the others in that batch? There is a picture on Flickr of 2105 in the WMPTE era operating a service 98 in Birmingham, so I am beginning to doubt myself now!
Quote from: paulb1973 on January 17, 2017, 11:16:33 PM
Thanks for that re. 1852 & 1845, looks like 1852 arrived in Cov after March 1984 and obviously prior to July 1986. While I was around in the 1980s - my interest in the scene really started at the beginning of the WMT era. I always associate the two Lancets with Wheatley St, but they did arrive before it opened.
The inclusion of 2619 is interesting, I thought that one was a Dudley bus and came much later on.
Going back to 1977, CVG6's 1211/20/4/5/9/32-5/42/5/50-2 are at Acocks Green; but 1247/8/63 were also at AG but listed separately. Were one batch gone permanently and the other temporarily? Is there is a distinction between the two?
The only other query is the omission of Metrobus 2105, which I thought was a Coventry bus part of the 2105-2116 batch (or maybe it wasn't!). Was that based at HN/SY and if it was - did it leave earlier than some of the others in that batch? There is a picture on Flickr of 2105 in the WMPTE era operating a service 98 in Birmingham, so I am beginning to doubt myself now!
2619 is a DY bus in July 86 and should not be in the list.
1247/8/63 were at AG permanently as were the others (I should have moved them too). I remember 1263 always being on the 11A/C in the mid 70s! I am pretty sure once the CVG6s left Coventry non of them returned, unlike the Fleetlines.
2105 was delivered to LH and stayed there until early WMT days when it moved to BC.
Quote from: busfan2847 on January 17, 2017, 09:04:44 PM
I do not know for sure, but I have marked up the DJS fleetlist to be an odd / even split so likely happened in late 1980 or early 1981. Certainly the next batch of Metrobuses 2156-2167 were delivered split odd and even and they arrived January 1981.
That's brilliant thanks. A list I have from September 1980 shows the allocations still in batches so the return to the odd/even split must have happened between then and January 1981. I can focus my research on those four months now and hopefully narrow it down further. It involves the history of two of my buses hence the interest in pinning down the dates.
Quote from: Tony on January 17, 2017, 09:09:00 PM
It was done to appease the unions, so neither garage could say it was the poor relation
They should do that these days to stop the bus spotters from moaning. All buses ending in 1 to AG, ending in 2 to BC etc etc.
Will stop the 'Wolverhampton has no Crimson' 'Pensnett has the oldest fleet' 'we only get cast offs' Bordesley only has boring Scania' type comments.
If you ever need help with allocating the fleet, just give me a shout!
Quote from: Gareth on January 18, 2017, 12:13:41 PM
They should do that these days to stop the bus spotters from moaning. All buses ending in 1 to AG, ending in 2 to BC etc etc.
Will stop the 'Wolverhampton has no Crimson' 'Pensnett has the oldest fleet' 'we only get cast offs' Bordesley only has boring Scania' type comments.
If you ever need help with allocating the fleet, just give me a shout!
Using busfan2847 notes, the split batches, listed in its full odd/even-ness! (a few exceptions to the rule did exist in 1986). Still a few Coventry Transport Fleetlines hanging on:
Sandy Lane:
1053, 1054, 1111, 1135, 1844, 1845, 2017, 2019, 2021, 2023, 2025, 2027, 2029, 2031, 2107, 2109, 2111, 2113, 2115, 2157, 2159, 2161, 2163, 2165, 2167, 2195, 2197, 2199, 2451, 2453, 2455, 2457, 2459, 2461, 2463, 2465, 2467, 2611, 2613, 2615, 2617, 2627, 2629, 2631, 2633, 2635, 2763, 2765, 2767, 2769, 2771, 2837, 2839, 2863, 2865, 2867, 2877, 2879, 2885, 2891, 2893, 2895, 2897, 4447, 4449, 4451, 4453, 4455, 4457, 4459, 4461, 4463, 4465, 6721, 6723, 6725, 6727, 6729, 6731, 6733, 6735, 6737, 6739, 6741, 6743, 6745, 6747, 6749, 6751, 6753, 6755, 6757, 6759, 6917, 6919, 6921, 6923, 6925, 6927, 6929, 6931, 6933, 6935, 6963, 6965, 6967, 6969, 6971, 6985, 6987, 6989
Harnall Lane:
1105, 1127, 1132, 1136, 1140, 1846, 1851, 1852, 1854, 1856, 2016, 2018, 2020, 2022, 2024, 2026, 2028, 2030, 2106, 2108, 2110, 2112, 2114, 2116, 2156, 2158, 2160, 2162, 2164, (2166 PL), 2168, 2196, 2198, 2263*, 2452, 2454, 2456, 2458, 2460, 2462, 2464, 2466, 2468, 2612, 2614, 2616, 2618, 2626, 2628, 2630, 2632, 2634, 2764, 2766, 2768, 2770, 2772, 2838, 2840, 2862, 2864, 2866, 2868, 2878, 2886, 2892, 2894, 2896, 2898, 4448, 4452, 4456, 4458, 4460, 4462, 4464, 4466, 6722, 6724, 6726, 6728, 6730, 6732, 6734, 6736, 6738, 6740, 6742, 6744, 6746, 6748, 6750, 6752, 6754, 6756, 6758, 6760, 6916, 6918, 6920, 6922, 6924, 6926, 6928, 6930, 6932, 6934, 6962, 6964, 6966, 6968, 6970, 6984, 6986, 6988.
Bus Lane being physically removed from Ansty Road with new white line in middle road. Presume green road surface will be removed if Bus Lanes are permanently removed.
4836 has been in service on the 21 today without any working LED boards, saw it more than once. Just had the one dot in the top left corner of each display
is there anyway of finding out what happened to a particular bus im wanting to know the fate of the old coventry fleetline 6750
Quote from: Twi on January 20, 2017, 12:24:28 AM
is there anyway of finding out what happened to a particular bus im wanting to know the fate of the old coventry fleetline 6750
Scrapped years ago I think. 6757 still survives in preservation though.
Quote from: Twi on January 20, 2017, 12:24:28 AM
is there anyway of finding out what happened to a particular bus im wanting to know the fate of the old coventry fleetline 6750
I don't have a definitive answer, but 6750 (SDA 750S) was withdrawn in 1989, so a really early casualty. That being so there is always a chance it was sold for further use - but I've been through all my 'Fleetline Factfile' booklets of 1994-97 published by D.Hill (remember them!) and there is no mention of any further use for 6750. It is safe to say this one was scrapped. But it is worth checking on Flickr etc, there are a number of pictures of this vehicle in its WMT days on there, the uploader of some claims 6750 gave service at Harborne garage! Seems rather unlikely - I suspect he has confused 'HN' which was Harnall Lane and briefly used at Wheatley Street before 'WT' was adopted. Finding out who scrapped this vehicle could be trickier.
6750 was sold for scrap in 11/89
It's one of the few buses from that era I never traced the buyer for.
Quote from: Tony on January 20, 2017, 06:37:15 PM
6750 was sold for scrap in 11/89
It's one of the few buses from that era I never traced the buyer for.
Would this be shown in the PSV Circle West Midlands fleet history (haven't got a copy myself - seem quite rare at rally sales stands).
On the question of splitting the Coventry fleet between H and S on the basis of odd and even numbers, I wonder if the temporary curtailment was to do with the thorny issue (in Coventry) of conversion to one person operation? The last conductors in Coventry finished in September 1980. The timing seems to coincide. The last PTE conductors of all (North Division) finished in Dec 1980. This may have been a prompt for the Union to ask for the Coventry buses to be split equally.
4776 now at Coventry, 4836 gone for paint
Quote from: Beano2211 on January 25, 2017, 05:20:24 PM
4776 now at Coventry, 4836 gone for paint
This is the start of the 4830-42 batch turning blue presumably. Once these are treated, only 4881-94/4983-95 from an Enviro 400 point of view, will need doing [with 4763-76 already done] and that'll be a while yet. 4203-24/4396-424 won't go blue and I assume 4450-54 and Bendi's 6012-21 probably won't either.
Single decks 840-44/71-75 are still fairly new and 2153-77 may be treated in the 2018-19 timeframe, going by a repaint every 5-6 years.
This is the start of the 4830-42 batch turning blue presumably. Once these are treated, only 4881-94/4983-95 from an Enviro 400 point of view, will need doing [with 4763-76 already done] and that'll be a while yet. 4203-24/4396-424 won't go blue and I assume 4450-54 and Bendi's 6012-21 probably won't either.
Single decks 840-44/71-75 are still fairly new and 2153-77 may be treated in the 2018-19 timeframe, going by a repaint every 5-6 years.
Think they're staying blue/white
4453 livery is still in good shape.
Amazed the city associates itself with Sky Blue seeing the football team has all but disappeared into oblivion.
A "Wasps" livery could be more appropriate but dirt does show up on black, and dark grey for that matter!
Beano.s entry above..I am lost... Just what is going blue mean, these buses are sky blue, and I understood 4203...the oldest bus in numeration could be replaced with others when we receive the next batch of Enviros from Walsall depot. Can someone explain.
Quote from: t.w.moore on January 27, 2017, 03:16:06 PM
Beano.s entry above..I am lost... Just what is going blue mean, these buses are sky blue, and I understood 4203...the oldest bus in numeration could be replaced with others when we receive the next batch of Enviros from Walsall depot. Can someone explain.
Blue means the new two tone blue like on the 47**s, not sky blue/white, don't think we are getting any more Enviros from Walsall now 4776 is here. I believe the Enviros now going for repaint will come back in the current blue/white and not two tone blue.
Quote from: Beano2211 on January 27, 2017, 06:29:06 PM
Blue means the new two tone blue like on the 47**s, not sky blue/white, don't think we are getting any more Enviros from Walsall now 4776 is here. I believe the Enviros now going for repaint will come back in the current blue/white and not two tone blue.
'Sky Blue' predates the football club for association with Coventry (The following is taken from a local history page)
By 1400 Coventry was manufacturing something like 3,000 whole cloths each year,
a whole cloth in contemporary parlance being 24 yards long and almost 2 yards wide. It would take two individuals around eighty hours to weave a single cloth on a medieval loom, and twenty times that long to produce the thread itself. In addition to these "broadcloths" the city also made a host of lesser textiles such as caps, lesser cloths and stockings.
To answer the question we posed at the start we need to concentrate on the dyers, whose guild was formed around 1400. Medieval dyeing relied upon the use of a variety of natural dyes, some more expensive than others. Brazilwood made a cheap red dye, but one which rapidly faded; madder produced a more consistent russet red colour.
Most popular of all, at least in Coventry, was the cloth dyed blue with imported woad. Cloth stained with woad came out a pale blue, roughly the colour of a Coventry City footballer's shirt.
This did not mean that, to wear a garment of Coventry cloth, you had the choice of only two colours. Both madder and woad acted as "background" colours, and once the broadcloths left Coventry (mostly for export to the Continent) further dyes were often applied to them. Ships with Coventry cloth headed for Gascony in France, and to Spain and Portugal, and regularly returned with woad to dye the next set of cloths.
And thus, by the High Middle Ages, the colour one associated with Coventry was blue, as blue as the heavens that seemed to smile benignly upon the city.
It did not smile benignly for ever, of course. Ask any Coventrian and they will tell you that all the great Coventry trades have come and gone at some point, from cloth and cap making to ribbons, watches, bicycles, sewing machines and cars.
Nevertheless - like the cloths themselves - the Coventry cloth trade took a long time to die. Even as late as Tudor times it was still possible to make a decent profit from the city's first native industry. But by then the sky blue had faded' new materials and new dyes had elbowed out the old colour. Come the 17th Century, the industry had given way to ribbons.
Indeed, when the Corporation, and then the football team, adopted sky blue their colour, it was probably consciously nostalgic, looking back to the heady days when Coventry Blue was as famous as Lincoln Green.
Tony..just great I should have known. I do like the colours.
Quote from: Beano2211 on January 27, 2017, 06:29:06 PM
I believe the Enviros now going for repaint will come back in the current blue/white and not two tone blue.
I truly hope that this is not the case!
However, the people of Coventry see the two tone livery as having free wifi (though 4775 doesn't have adverts for it, or a name for that matter!) so they may think that the others will have free wifi as well which would disappoint them!
It is odd if it is the case though as Birmingham, The Black Country and Dundee will be in the two tone livery and Coventry will start to lag behind in the old version.
Quote from: Adam 404 on January 27, 2017, 08:00:55 PM
I truly hope that this is not the case!
However, the people of Coventry see the two tone livery as having free wifi (though 4775 doesn't have adverts for it, or a name for that matter!) so they may think that the others will have free wifi as well which would disappoint them!
It is odd if it is the case though as Birmingham, The Black Country and Dundee will be in the two tone livery and Coventry will start to lag behind in the old version.
I assume 4836 is getting the newer two-tone blue, otherwise that would mean at least five more years of blue/white - which would be a bit daft. I know there's no hurry to do the Coventry Enviro's, but they may as well start now.
Quote from: paulb1973 on January 28, 2017, 12:34:33 PM
I assume 4836 is getting the newer two-tone blue, otherwise that would mean at least five more years of blue/white - which would be a bit daft. I know there's no hurry to do the Coventry Enviro's, but they may as well start now.
Our 33 Enviro400s have received the new livery so I don't see why not the Coventry buses can not get the blue version. Seems a bit pointless repainting them in their current livery unless there is a good reason behind it. About time Coventry got some buses in the new livery
874 has been branded for the 23 / 23A service (Like 875)
https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.436337133204892.1073741997.369276339910972/656315387873731/?type=3&theater
4836 is now back at Coventry
4836's rear fleet number seems to have applied amateurishly.
Quote from: P419 EJW on February 21, 2017, 09:36:32 PM
4836's rear fleet number seems to have applied amateurishly.
They have now been removed!
Quote from: Beano2211 on February 23, 2017, 11:59:03 AM
They have now been removed!
Saw 4836 today, and the rear fleet number is in the correct position.
The internal fleetnumbers on the E200s face into the bus on the panel above the windscreen on Coventry 871-5 and above entrance door on ex Wolverhampton ones.
Coventry garage is tops!
Press release on NX Coventry web site
http://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/news/coventry-is-top-west-midlands-bus-garage
(Winners names removed as not sure on this forum rules)
National Express' Coventry garage has swept the board at the bus operator's yearly awards.
The Pool Meadow depot won seven awards - including Garage of the Year - at the annual prize giving, hosted by National Express Group Chief Executive, Dean Finch.
Pool Meadow beat National Express' ten other UK bus garages - Birmingham Central, Perry Barr, Yardley Wood, Acocks Green, Bordesley Green, Walsall, West Bromwich, Wolverhampton and Pensnett, plus Xplore Dundee.
Coventry garage also donated the most money to charity in 2016, raising £3,273 for Rainbow Ripples at Myton Hospice. That brought them the prize of an extra £1,000 for the charity, which offers support for children and young people.
The depot also won the Customer Service award, which rates each garage on cleanliness, punctuality and reliability.
In addition, five people from Coventry depot won individual awards.
Xxxxxxx xxxxxx was crowned National Express Driver of the Year in the bus division, beating 3,500 of his fellow drivers across the West Midlands and Dundee. Xxxxxxx is a certified Master Driver - he has passed advanced motorist and customer service qualifications over and above National Express' basic driver training, as well as recording exemplary driving scores on the in-bus computers.
Xxxxxxx was shortlisted for the company's Group Values awards in London in April, where he will be up against National Express staff from across the UK as well as Spain, Morocco and America.
The team award for Driving Out Harm went to Coventry garage's xxxxxx xxxxxx and Xxxxxx Xxxxxx for producing safety training for the city's bus routes. Armed with a Go-Pro camera and a bus, xxxxxx and Xxxxxx make videos highlighting what drivers should pay special attention to on the routes. These films go out via the depot TV for drivers to watch as they book on for duty.
Newcomer Xxxxxxx xxxxxxx won the Outstanding Support Service award. The judges said, "His enthusiasm and passion for providing a reliable service to the city is contagious."
And cleaner xxxxxx xxxxxx was named Unsung Hero for her dedication to improving cleaning standards at Coventry garage. She was especially praised for making sure that buses that had been off the road for some time go back out to passengers looking their best.
Martin Hancock, Director of the Coventry operation, said:
"These awards represent what the whole garage does really well - providing a safe, clean service that gets the buses out on the road ready to pick up passengers, day in, day out. Quietly, without drama, everyone gets on with their own tasks to deliver what our passengers need and expect.
"At the end of the day, we are in business to carry passengers and our simple aim is to carry more passengers in safety."
National Express Coventry has bucked the nationwide trend of falling bus passengers, and is now carrying more people than last year and the year before.
The 12X was a particular success in 2016. In November, extra journeys were added on Friday and Saturday evenings to serve students coming into the city for a night out. National Express Coventry has seen year-on-year growth of over 10% on services to the university.
Published 13th February 2017
An antonym of drama is comedy....
I've just boarded 4413 with defective destination lights. Advised driver who said I know, as I did to the driver of the 8 the bus was on when I caught it in the dark on 8 the other night.
As Mr Hancock says same consistant standard of operation.
Service 5 will run direct down Lythalls Lane from 23rd April 2017 according to NWM Newletter.
"Withdrawn from St Lukes Road, Beacon Road, and Compton Road"
Quote from: Adam 404 on March 01, 2017, 05:09:15 PM
Service 5 will run direct down Lythalls Lane from 23rd April 2017 according to NWM Newletter.
"Withdrawn from St Lukes Road, Beacon Road, and Compton Road"
Has there ever been much patronage on those roads? Seemed a strange way to go when buses could go along Lythalls Lane (which for many years never had a regular service).
Passengers especially elderly catch the bus which goes into the community instead having a long walk to a main road in same way the Leasowes Avenue area is now served by the 9.
The service to the area was pioneered by Midland Red South minibus service H that was every 10 minutes.
Quote from: JoNi on March 01, 2017, 07:13:28 PM
Passengers especially elderly catch the bus which goes into the community instead having a long walk to a main road in same way the Leasowes Avenue area is now served by the 9.
The service to the area was pioneered by Midland Red South minibus service H that was every 10 minutes.
Quote from: paulb1973 on March 01, 2017, 05:19:18 PM
Has there ever been much patronage on those roads? Seemed a strange way to go when buses could go along Lythalls Lane (which for many years never had a regular service).
Unsure about the patronage for this area but when looking at bus stop locations, Compton Rd can be replaced with new stops on Lythalls Lane (about 50 metres away), then another city bound stop will probably be sited on Lythalls Lane by St Lukes Rd, I would imagine most residents around the Beacon Rd stop who travel to the City Centre would already walk to Holbrook Lane for a direct/more frequent service, those travelling to Radford etc I expect will groan the most.... if this change actually goes ahead of course, thinking back to Everdon Rd last year.
Did Stagecoach ever thought about diverting any of their 55/56/57 services via these areas when they axed the 'H'?
The 5 is classic example of a route that was created to mop up bits and pieces. Indeed when I caught one this morning it actually picked up two passengers in the section being removed who were travelling to Arena Tescos.
Having done the other end yesterday it can't be a lack of overall running time in the off peak as the buses potter along.
Quite why buses depart at different times from Pool Meadow on a Monday to Friday and Saturday is beyond my powers of reasoning.
There is heavy traffic in the peak using Burnaby Road but the effects on the service can easily be solved by breaking the route up at those times. Indeed you could cross link it to the 18 at Tile Hill South to give more options for reliability.
No this is just a crude fudge to save a couple of minutes running time.
Service 13 ex Whitmore Park into town often seem to get delayed in the evening peak. Often resulting in 3 or 4 of them, going out of town to Willenhall within a couple of minutes. Happened again tonight. A cross city route that can struggle to deliver the timetable. Needs a rethink maybe?
4836 had a day on 13.
4144 is now at Coventry and 6016 is withdrawn and parked at the front of the garage.
Great to hear about the awards to Coventry depot. Is 4414 transferred to Coventry to replace 6016?.
Advice please. Where in Birmingham can I locate and photograph some of the 10 former Coventry Wright Gemini Volvos in service
I have been told one was on the X1 this week, I missed it of course, perhaps it was a one off being a short time break down replacement. Appreciate your help
Quote from: t.w.moore on March 15, 2017, 07:34:30 PM
Great to hear about the awards to Coventry depot. Is 4414 transferred to Coventry to replace 6016?.
Advice please. Where in Birmingham can I locate and photograph some of the 10 former Coventry Wright Gemini Volvos in service
I have been told one was on the X1 this week, I missed it of course, perhaps it was a one off being a short time break down replacement. Appreciate your help
It wouldn't have been on the X1 as thats a BC route and the Gemini are at PB.
Best routes to find them on are the 94, 65 and 67. So the best place to find them is the Priory Queensway in Birmingham City Centre.
Quote from: t.w.moore on March 15, 2017, 07:34:30 PM
Great to hear about the awards to Coventry depot. Is 4414 transferred to Coventry to replace 6016?.
Advice please. Where in Birmingham can I locate and photograph some of the 10 former Coventry Wright Gemini Volvos in service
I have been told one was on the X1 this week, I missed it of course, perhaps it was a one off being a short time break down replacement. Appreciate your help
Best place I can think of is The Priory Queensway/Moor Street Junction. You can see routes 65/67, 94, 52/A, 907. the 16 ocassionally gets Geminis too. These are the most likely the routes the Geminis will be on. You also have the 46 on Livery Street, the 7 may have one on there too
Quote from: John on March 15, 2017, 07:39:53 PM
Best place I can think of is The Priory Queensway/Moor Street Junction. You can see routes 65/67, 94, 52/A, 907. the 16 ocassionally gets Geminis too. These are the most likely the routes the Geminis will be on. You also have the 46 on Livery Street, the 7 may have one on there too
And just to throw a spanner in the works
sometimes the 77
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4696.html
Thank you, I will follow your advice.
Not noticed on the forum yet, but 4205 has taken to breaking and entering in Kearsley, according to BBC reports.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-39325826
Fortunately, it doesn't look as though many if any significant injuries have been sustained.
Apologies if this is already active elsewhere on the site.
I assume that will also be the end of 4205's career
Quote from: Winston on March 20, 2017, 07:29:38 PM
I assume that will also be the end of 4205's career
One would have thought so, given that withdrawals are underway thinning out the Y-Trident fleet elsewhere, and expenditure per vehicle in this 'at-risk' category is presumably limited.
Quote from: Adam 404 on March 01, 2017, 05:09:15 PM
Service 5 will run direct down Lythalls Lane from 23rd April 2017 according to NWM Newletter.
"Withdrawn from St Lukes Road, Beacon Road, and Compton Road"
Service 8, 8A, 9 & 9A are revised from 23rd April: http://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/service-changes/coventry-service-changes-from-sunday-23rd-april-2017
No mention of the 5 service though...
4144 guess the destination!
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/c7c262
Quote from: JoNi on March 27, 2017, 04:21:08 PM
4144 guess the destination!
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/c7c262
Does it say Wood End?
Quote from: John on March 27, 2017, 04:25:27 PM
Does it say Wood End?
It does indeed, well done!
It looks like someone has tried to reset it and failed because it was on 'factory settings' at BC hence only showing final destination with the numbers on the wrong side.
On NXWM buses 'Factory settings' puts what should be on the side, not the front, hence the problems at WN.
Side and rear displays were correct.
Quote from: JoNi on March 27, 2017, 05:42:41 PM
Side and rear displays were correct.
They will be. There is some settings on the unit itself which needs to be in the correct position to get it to display properly. At BC it was set to pick up the side instead. That looks like it is trying to get the entire destination into the rear display.
Will 4144 be out today , if yes , what route
Quote from: Stefan Nutt on March 28, 2017, 08:59:38 AM
Will 4144 be out today , if yes , what route
Yes it is out, not tracking yet so cannot see details
4144 is on the 6/6A as i saw it earlier , does anyone know if 4218 is out?
I noticed 6013 parked up at the Swanswell end of Coventry garage over the weekend - don't know if that is withdrawn? (or just left there!). Are 6012/16 officially withdrawn? [this is more for Tony] - I assume they are, 6016 has been dumped alongside the fence at the corner of Cox St/Ford St which is never a good sign!
I suppose I could ask the same for damaged 4205, I'm assuming it isn't coming back.
Quote from: paulb1973 on March 28, 2017, 02:48:37 PM
I noticed 6013 parked up at the Swanswell end of Coventry garage over the weekend - don't know if that is withdrawn? (or just left there!). Are 6012/16 officially withdrawn? [this is more for Tony] - I assume they are, 6016 has been dumped alongside the fence at the corner of Cox St/Ford St which is never a good sign!
I suppose I could ask the same for damaged 4205, I'm assuming it isn't coming back.
I have written an article about all this which will be in my April Bus Magazine.
I managed to find 4144 today almost by chance:
Front - https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.674883772683559.1073742308.369276339910972/688977161274220/?type=3&theater
Back - https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.674883772683559.1073742308.369276339910972/688977214607548/?type=3&theater
4144 on 10
4144 on the 10 , cool have to try and Hunt it down today , any sign of 4218 today or is that in garage?
Looks like 4190 is on it's way to CV, maybe replacing a bendi?
Quote from: S570 on March 29, 2017, 11:04:35 AM
Looks like 4190 is on it's way to CV, maybe replacing a bendi?
Replacing 4205
Quote from: John on March 29, 2017, 11:05:24 AM
Replacing 4205
Of course, I forgot about that ::)
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4700-4879/4833.html
I've been told that this is because of confusion for customers using the 11's that they think it has WIFI when in two tone colours...
Quote from: Adam 404 on March 30, 2017, 10:25:22 PM
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4700-4879/4833.html
I've been told that this is because of confusion for customers using the 11's that they think it has WIFI when in two tone colours...
How an earth did the 11 passengers cope before wifi came along?!
Why don't they use slap on some wifi stickers.
I doubt it's because of association with WiFi. So are they never gonna have the new livery in Coventry because people think they have Wifi fitted. I doubt it.
Quote from: Adam 404 on March 30, 2017, 10:25:22 PM
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4700-4879/4833.html
I've been told that this is because of confusion for customers using the 11's that they think it has WIFI when in two tone colours...
Can't seen 4833 being repainted in old style format when 4836 received Crimson NXC style being due to the above reasons.....
I assume 4833 also hasn't been retrimmed in the latest NX 'Crimson' moquette either?
Quote from: Winston on March 30, 2017, 11:04:35 PM
I assume 4833 also hasn't been retrimmed in the latest NX 'Crimson' moquette either?
Apparently, it's new moquette.
Quote from: Adam 404 on March 30, 2017, 10:25:22 PM
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4700-4879/4833.html
I've been told that this is because of confusion for customers using the 11's that they think it has WIFI when in two tone colours...
If that's the reason, could they not try and keep them off the 11? It's not as if they're lacking blue/white buses.
Sorry, but that's really really stupid, what's a complete waste of money!
Quote from: MW on March 30, 2017, 10:57:38 PM
Why don't they use slap on some wifi stickers.
I doubt it's because of association with WiFi. So are they never gonna have the new livery in Coventry because people think they have Wifi fitted. I doubt it.
This is what I thought as well. When waiting for the 10 service one time, 4775 appeared to which some people commented, "The blue ones got free wifi!" Even though 4775 doesn't have any stickers on it.
So it is more of a Coventry wide belief that the two tone blue means WIFI.
The problem was that the 47** was the first to be repainted and almost too much marketing was thrown in, this was one of the managers concerns when I spoken to him as he said he was going to send 4836 back to the paint shop to become Blue and White.
Quote from: Adam 404 on March 31, 2017, 07:12:45 AM
This is what I thought as well. When waiting for the 10 service one time, 4775 appeared to which some people commented, "The blue ones got free wifi!" Even though 4775 doesn't have any stickers on it.
So it is more of a Coventry wide belief that the two tone blue means WIFI.
The problem was that the 47** was the first to be repainted and almost too much marketing was thrown in, this was one of the managers concerns when I spoken to him as he said he was going to send 4836 back to the paint shop to become Blue and White.
I'm sorry but what a complete joke that is. Passengers don't pay any extra for Wi-fi so why does it matter what livery the bus is in? The free wi-fi branding is sufficient to advertise it. Surely the Coventry management want the fleet to look as good as possible, and the two tone blue looks way better than the blue/white 4833 has been painted in. Plus if no other 21 branded buses are repainted blue, then 4836 will be the odd one out in the batch. It will still leave the Coventry fleet non unform even after the Tridents are withdrawn and if the B7RLEs are done which they probably won't now
Quote from: Adam 404 on March 30, 2017, 10:25:22 PM
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4700-4879/4833.html
I've been told that this is because of confusion for customers using the 11's that they think it has WIFI when in two tone colours...
That soubds like bullshit if im honest. I know people are thick, but surely they aren't that thick.
Quote from: Dom on March 31, 2017, 10:43:34 AM
That soubds like bullshit if im honest. I know people are thick, but surely they aren't that thick.
It's absolutely pathetic, wouldn't it be cheaper to fit wifi on 4836 rather than send it for another repaint? I'm tempted to put in a complaint, that's really really annoyed me!
Interesting, perhaps Coventry will become the sole user of the 'old' livery in years to come! (not yet obviously). Waste of money repainting 4836 it seems. Maybe NXC needs a third 'non-WIFI scheme' livery!!
I suspect they must have had complaints for this to have happened.
The NX premium bus brand is Platinum, so all would be resolved presumably if the 11 was upgraded to platinum and the remaining buses would be either the new or the old blue until all are done.
Quote from: paulb1973 on March 31, 2017, 01:44:05 PM
Interesting, perhaps Coventry will become the sole user of the 'old' livery in years to come! (not yet obviously). Waste of money repainting 4836 it seems. Maybe NXC needs a third 'non-WIFI scheme' livery!!
4453!
Quote from: don on March 31, 2017, 02:30:20 PM
I suspect they must have had complaints for this to have happened.
The NX premium bus brand is Platinum, so all would be resolved presumably if the 11 was upgraded to platinum and the remaining buses would be either the new or the old blue until all are done.
That is presumably the obvious solution - just means Coventry would need a dozen or so Enviro 400 MMC's heading their way. As only those buses are used on Platinum routes seemingly. I can't imagine they'd want 'almost-Platinum' using grey painted older E400's.
Quote from: paulb1973 on March 31, 2017, 03:48:01 PM
That is presumably the obvious solution - just means Coventry would need a dozen or so Enviro 400 MMC's heading their way. As only those buses are used on Platinum routes seemingly. I can't imagine they'd want 'almost-Platinum' using grey painted older E400's.
This is how I view the two tone blue 47xx buses - an upgrade above standard but not to full Platinum spec. You can see how the public could get confused as these are largely the only two tone blue vehicles. In terms of Platinum buses, how about Streetdecks?!!
No doubt this will all become clearer in due course as the early Tridents will no doubt need replacing later this year anyway.
from what im hearing is platinum is planned for the 12x
Really ? Hope it's true.... :)
Any truth in the rumour that X1 may be transfering to CV garage and also the 11 becoming Platinum ?
Repainted 4833 on 6 at 0932 to TF
The "bridge" linking the Council House to the offices opposite is going to be removed this weekend.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/519B0L
no idea about X1 i sincerely doubt it but 11/12x platinum rumour is defiantly a rumour and possibly even true
the full rumour is Bendi's to be gone at christmas 47xx to replace them on the 4 route with platinums taking over the 11/12x
Quote from: paulb1973 on March 28, 2017, 02:48:37 PM
Are 6012/16 officially withdrawn? I assume they are, 6016 has been dumped alongside the fence at the corner of Cox St/Ford St which is never a good sign!
6012 has joined 6016 at the front by the fence as pictured here: https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.418873688284570.1073741977.369276339910972/696051607233442/?type=3&theater
It is also surrounded by tape and traffic cones!
so if all bendi's are being withdrawn will CV be getting more 47/48/ or 49 E400's to replace them on the 4 and other routes ?
Not sure about the platinum rumour but wouldn't be nice to see them on 11 and 12 X :)
wouldn't it be nice I mean't lol.
Quote from: TT90 on April 08, 2017, 10:51:22 PM
so if all bendi's are being withdrawn will CV be getting more 47/48/ or 49 E400's to replace them on the 4 and other routes ?
Not sure about the platinum rumour but wouldn't be nice to see them on 11 and 12 X :)
Only 6012/6016 are down for withdrawal at the moment
Quote from: Tony on April 09, 2017, 09:22:14 AM
Only 6012/6016 are down for withdrawal at the moment
Doesn't look like there's been like-for-like replacement for these two; 4190 is here to replace 4205 [eventually] and 4144 is here to cover for buses being fitted with new ticket machinery.
2156 has a white Wholesale Meats ad on whole of back.
Quote from: JoNi on April 09, 2017, 10:48:09 AM
2156 has a white Wholesale Meats ad on whole of back.
2155 & 2157 should also have it
Anymore E400's due into Coventry this year Tony ?
Is the platinum rumour simply just a rumour ?
Thanks,
Quote from: TT90 on April 09, 2017, 11:46:39 AM
Anymore E400's due into Coventry this year Tony ?
Is the platinum rumour simply just a rumour ?
Thanks,
I don't post future plans, sorry, only what has happened
Quote from: JoNi on April 09, 2017, 10:48:09 AM
2156 has a white Wholesale Meats ad on whole of back.
I haven't taken much notice - but presume 4403-5 have lost their eBay rear ads.
Quote from: Tony on April 09, 2017, 10:54:42 AM
2155 & 2157 should also have it
2155/6/7 all out today on 9, 20, 6 peak bus respectively
seems 6013 and 6014 are to be repaired and put back on the road with all bendi's to be gone by christmas (rumour) though 6013 has moved position now
4986 had sat down out of city with hazards on at the Forum early this evening. A no of passengers got off and waiting at bus stop.
Quote from: Sandy Lane on April 11, 2017, 07:33:33 PM
4986 had sat down out of city with hazards on at the Forum early this evening. A no of passengers got off and waiting at bus stop.
Waiting time at a timing point I would assume.
2154 also has a full rear wholesale meats advert.
Just seen on Facebook that 4776 is now back at Coventry with it's new Init ticket machine fitted.
After looking through the forum I just cannot discover just why the Coventry Volvo Gemini's 4687-4696 were transferred to Birmingham. Surely it was not because Coventry had five Enviro 200's from Walsall? I photographed 3 of the ex Coventry Gemini's in Birmingham last week. I must admit they looked a real treat in their new colours and when I began writing a caption to my pics I was stumped for for details as I ask. Very much liked the Streetdecks I photographed in Colmore Row, not seen them before, a good day picture outing.
Quote from: t.w.moore on April 15, 2017, 10:34:10 AM
After looking through the forum I just cannot discover just why the Coventry Volvo Gemini's 4687-4696 were transferred to Birmingham. Surely it was not because Coventry had five Enviro 200's from Walsall? I photographed 3 of the ex Coventry Gemini's in Birmingham last week. I must admit they looked a real treat in their new colours and when I began writing a caption to my pics I was stumped for for details as I ask. Very much liked the Streetdecks I photographed in Colmore Row, not seen them before, a good day picture outing.
I suppose it makes more sense to concentrate the Wright Eclipse Gemini's at the same garages (in this case, Perry Barr & Acocks Green and at Xplore Dundee). Granted there are Volvo B5L Hybrid Gemini's at B'ham Central.
Quote from: t.w.moore on April 15, 2017, 10:34:10 AM
After looking through the forum I just cannot discover just why the Coventry Volvo Gemini's 4687-4696 were transferred to Birmingham. Surely it was not because Coventry had five Enviro 200's from Walsall? I photographed 3 of the ex Coventry Gemini's in Birmingham last week. I must admit they looked a real treat in their new colours and when I began writing a caption to my pics I was stumped for for details as I ask. Very much liked the Streetdecks I photographed in Colmore Row, not seen them before, a good day picture outing.
it was to consolidate types they have a a lot of volvo's and gemini's over there
4190 is out on the 6/6a having ran the 09:38 from City to Victoria Farm
Picture to be added later
Album of 4190: https://www.facebook.com/pg/Coventry-Bus-photo-page-369276339910972/photos/?tab=album&album_id=704785236360079
6014 now back on the road friday afternoon, though was off road again on saturday for a air leak on the hand brake
Quote from: Twi on April 30, 2017, 06:40:44 PM
6014 now back on the road friday afternoon, though was off road again on saturday for a air leak on the hand brake
It was out all day on Thursday. Managed to photograph it whilst I was passing through Pool Meadow on my way to Leamington Spa.
meh i got my days mixed up it went back into service thursday afternoon not friday approx 1430
kinda silly mistake to make as i drove it friday morning
Quote from: Twi on April 30, 2017, 06:40:44 PM
6014 now back on the road friday afternoon, though was off road again on saturday for a air leak on the hand brake
Thanks for the information regarding 6014,
@Twi. I caught that today.
6014 has been out this morning before being sent back to the garage making a hissing sound.
https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.374916139346992.1073741841.369276339910972/711632712341998/?type=3&theater
yep coolant leak apparently
6013 has now been repaired and is back on the road seen it out on friday but think it went back out on thursday
4837 back at Cov in blue and white
4837 was out yesterday, freshly repainted on the 16.
drivers advising me that some tridents are going and they are having more E200s or E400s, or maybe minibuses ?
Anyone know if this is true ?
Quote from: TT90 on May 25, 2017, 01:50:10 PM
drivers advising me that some tridents are going and they are having more E200s or E400s, or maybe minibuses ?
Anyone know if this is true ?
They definitely won't be having minibuses unless any are on order.
If anything, I would have expected CV to be the recipient of extra non compliant BC Tridents to allow the remaining artics to be removed from service short term.
Red fronted 4192 just seen being driven into garage.
Quote from: JoNi on May 30, 2017, 08:55:59 AM
Red fronted 4192 just seen being driven into garage.
Will be staying at Coventry for a short time, in service, covering ticket machine fitting to 4763-75
4192 out in service tonight. Not sure on what route, not yet tracking and currently in the City Centre
Quote from: Tony on May 30, 2017, 06:02:06 PM
4192 out in service tonight. Not sure on what route, not yet tracking and currently in the City Centre
It was on 27A
4192 daytime 18 0954 18A 1104 18 1224 .....
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/y0VA1t
4129 worked 11U Earlsdon short workings this evening before returning to the City.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/Uu3CN6
4775 or 4776 pulled in behind me around 2pm on The Priory Queensway with Private on the blinds. Possible private hire, it then left after me and turned into Moor Street, could have been going to Central? Strange to see Coventry buses in Brum
Quote from: John on June 26, 2017, 02:45:47 PM
4775 or 4776 pulled in behind me around 2pm on The Priory Queensway with Private on the blinds. Possible private hire, it then left after me and turned into Moor Street, could have been going to Central? Strange to see Coventry buses in Brum
4776, the one with the new Ticket Machine fitted. It's been over to Quinton for some reason so will probably get reported as running late on the 9 soon!
Quote from: Tony on June 26, 2017, 02:52:38 PM
4776, the one with the new Ticket Machine fitted.
Is that going back into service soon, or will it have to wait until more buses have it fitted?
Yeah I saw 4776 on the Coventry road at about 2:55 and I saw the new ticket machine as it was going past they look nice
Freshly repainted 4840 on 6/A today
Quote from: JoNi on July 05, 2017, 10:00:55 AM
Freshly repainted 4840 on 6/A today
Saw it today, looks nowhere near as good as 4836! What a waste of such a nice livery.
4830 has gained a new rear advert for driver recruitment with real person rather than charecture.
Apparently 4885 has as well.
Is 4405 getting repainted as Tony's Picture of it on the main site shows it at Walsall Garage
Quote from: BusFan94 on July 08, 2017, 01:37:43 PM
Is 4405 getting repainted as Tony's Picture of it on the main site shows it at Walsall Garage
Yes it is
Into all blue or into Red and White
Quote from: BusFan94 on July 08, 2017, 02:01:13 PM
Into all blue or into Red and White
It will just be a quicky repaint in the same style, as per the PB ALX400's
Quote from: Winston on July 08, 2017, 02:23:46 PM
It will just be a quicky repaint in the same style, as per the PB ALX400's
So it's unlikely to get a refurb then? That one is long overdue a refurb, it still has the moquette it was delivered with, one of the worst interiors there was at Coventry.
Cheers Winston Just Smarting up then
Quote from: lauren1993 on July 08, 2017, 02:52:28 PM
So it's unlikely to get a refurb then? That one is long overdue a refurb, it still has the moquette it was delivered with, one of the worst interiors there was at Coventry.
Obviously not as PB's ALX400's haven't refurbed.
It's a shame they can't get refurbed though, they have really bad interiors on most of them. WB's 4249 is probably the worst I've seen. Every seat is threadbare.
Quote from: Jack B on July 08, 2017, 05:16:01 PM
Obviously not as PB's ALX400's haven't refurbed.
It's a shame they can't get refurbed though, they have really bad interiors on most of them. WB's 4249 is probably the worst I've seen. Every seat is threadbare.
Should see WN 4546, 4550, and 4551's seats. They are threadbare and look a right state... Sitting on a seat feels like someone has wet themselves. It's horrible. I try my best to avoid the trio.
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 08, 2017, 09:56:28 PM
Should see WN 4546, 4550, and 4551's seats. They are threadbare and look a right state... Sitting on a seat feels like someone has wet themselves. It's horrible. I try my best to avoid the trio.
4546's seats are awful. They're that faded that bad they're starting to look a beige colour. Neither been on 4550 or 4551 so don't really know them.
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 08, 2017, 09:56:28 PM
Should see WN 4546, 4550, and 4551's seats. They are threadbare and look a right state... Sitting on a seat feels like someone has wet themselves. It's horrible. I try my best to avoid the trio.
4289's seats are terrible as well.
4396 has gained rear green advert for Coventry College on 6 today 0932 to Tanyard Farm
4776 was in Birmingham City Centre earlier on a private hire
@Tony was at the wheel.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on July 11, 2017, 07:34:18 PM
4776 was in Birmingham City Centre earlier on a private hire @Tony was at the wheel.
Will be again tomorrow, it's back at Walsall for a couple of days
Quote from: Michael Bevan on July 11, 2017, 07:34:18 PM
4776 was in Birmingham City Centre earlier on a private hire @Tony was at the wheel.
I'm just off to do the last part of the private hire with 4776. If anyone is in Birmingham City Centre and wants a photo of a blue bus in Birmingham I am due to pick a party up from Westbourne Road at 16:00 then will come in down Broad Street, Smallbrook Queensway, Moor Street Queensway, Jennens Road to BCU
4421 has finally had its noisy cooling fan fixed! That one used to always roar since as long as I can remember, seen today on the 7 sounding a lot quieter!
4776 is doing random trips in the 11 with the new ticket machine fitted today, just left Coventry
4776 duly appeared this morning
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/6h85P2
4764 also now has a new ticket machine fitted. It paid a visit to Birmingham today
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4700-4879/4764.html
Quote from: Tony on July 25, 2017, 06:57:44 PM
4764 also now has a new ticket machine fitted. It paid a visit to Birmingham today
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4700-4879/4764.html
Yes, it visited Bordesley Green as well.
https://www.facebook.com/CovBusPage/photos/a.472674776237794.1073742087.369276339910972/752262604945675/?type=3&theater
Crimson 4624 and 4625 are in use at Coventry, one was on 12x's
Quote from: Beano2211 on July 26, 2017, 05:01:24 PM
Crimson 4624 and 4625 are in use at Coventry, one was on 12x's
I managed to catch up with 4625 on the 11 so 4624 was presumably the 12X one.
https://www.facebook.com/CovBusPage/photos/a.752828674889068.1073742329.369276339910972/752828708222398/?type=3&theater
Single decker 'Tarley Jordan' has been involved in a collision on the Holyhead Road this afternoon/evening while on the 23.
872
4192 is now withdrawn and parked next to the bendis in the front yard
4400 has returned to the garage with a fresh coat of paint.
https://www.facebook.com/CovBusPage/photos/a.498558133649458.1073742189.369276339910972/763222093849726/?type=3&theater
E200s have now started receiving new ticket machines.
East Coast Buses 10052 is at Coventry Depot.
Quote from: Cammy7153 on August 19, 2017, 06:22:58 PM
East Coast Buses 10052 is at Coventry Depot.
It will be going to the Buses Festival at Gaydon tomorrow
Quote from: JoNi on August 19, 2017, 05:45:35 PM
E200s have now started receiving new ticket machines.
I suspect NX will lose revenue with them...
Also, is 872 back on the road? I havent seen it lately.
872 is on 20s today caught it earlier, Concessionary pass holders weren't quite sure about the new validator let alone reading the hello!
Quote from: Ben on August 21, 2017, 05:33:14 PM
I suspect NX will lose revenue with them...
Why would this be? The information being provided from them will be more reliable.
Quote from: Ben on August 21, 2017, 05:33:14 PM
I suspect NX will lose revenue with them...
how? They actually read smart cards far quicker so should be less concessionary passes missed, and the tickets are far better and should reduce fraud.
What do you see in them reducing revenue?
Quote from: Adam 404 on August 21, 2017, 06:13:34 PM
Why would this be? The information being provided from them will be more reliable.
A more suitable word would be accurate rather than reliable as the validator should be able to work out which individual stop passengers get on, against existing fare stage system which often seems to left at the starting point of the journey. I bet ridership in Warwickshire will plummet on the 20!
I've encountered no problems yet with the validators which seem to work fine.
Quote from: JoNi on August 21, 2017, 07:29:55 PM
A more suitable word would be accurate rather than reliable as the validator should be able to work out which individual stop passengers get on, against existing fare stage system which often seems to left at the starting point of the journey. I bet ridership in Warwickshire will plummet on the 20!
The total numbers will be more accurate though as they are more likely to actually read there is a card there than the current ones
at least tickets are now actually readable .. and word of the day is pure genius
Quote from: Twi on August 23, 2017, 10:41:13 AM
at least tickets are now actually readable .. and word of the day is pure genius
Not quite pure genius I think some of the First companies had been doing it for many years.
Quote from: Gareth on August 23, 2017, 06:55:48 PM
Not quite pure genius I think some of the First companies had been doing it for many years.
Yeah we have the word of the day on mobile tickets, it's a good idea as prevents people screen shoting a ticket and passing them around. The time also flashes. We get our new machines at Worcester soon too, guessing they will be similar to NXWM/ Diamond ones and no more concession tickets issued!
Quote from: j789 on August 23, 2017, 10:05:39 PM
Yeah we have the word of the day on mobile tickets, it's a good idea as prevents people screen shoting a ticket and passing them around. The time also flashes. We get our new machines at Worcester soon too, guessing they will be similar to NXWM/ Diamond ones and no more concession tickets issued!
If Worcesters are the same as the ones Kernow have, they are the same as Diamonds.
Also Kernow don't issue concession tickets with the new machines. The new Day and weekly tickets come with QR codes at the bottom of the ticket, so when the passenger next boards the bus, they scan the QR code using the barcode scanner the machine, the machine then says valid or invalid with the expiry date of the ticket, a good idea as it prevents the use of people using scrunched up expired day and weekly tickets.
@j789
Quote from: 2206 on August 23, 2017, 10:53:53 PM
If Worcesters are the same as the ones Kernow have, they are the same as Diamonds.
Also Kernow don't issue concession tickets with the new machines. The new Day and weekly tickets come with QR codes at the bottom of the ticket, so when the passenger next boards the bus, they scan the QR code using the barcode scanner the machine, the machine then says valid or invalid with the expiry date of the ticket, a good idea as it prevents the use of people using scrunched up expired day and weekly tickets.
@j789
The QR codes will be great and make scanning much easier (as long as the technology is reliable!!!!) It should speed up boarding time too. Our new machines are also meant to automatically update the fare stage on the machine using gps which again will help to avoid drivers forgetting to update this when driving as it's easy to do. It's amazing what this new technology can do so I hope it is successful.
I'm using E-daysavers at the moment which when placed on the new ticket validator clearly state how many days are left.
Today I was able to test my expired Swift card on a new validator which illuminated red and clearly stated that it had expired on 11th August.
Very good so far, only one new validator not working on a 23.
Drove for a 4 1/2 hour stint with new ticket machine today was very impressed ..some passes still had to be scanned twice though while others were instant passengers keep putting card on the LCD screen which wont scan has to be lower down on the black area guess they will get used to it in time. Was really nice not having to enter any running board info, journeys, fare stages all updated as they should my only gripe was as the bus i was on was changing from 23 to 23a and i don't usually drive 23's i had to keep going back to running board to double check what route i was on even though it gives the journey it should specify route number as some running boards can do odd things when you least expect them too like a 6 leaving Vic farm for tanyard so many times drivers have misread and displayed 6a.
4205 has moved / gone
Repainted 4400 on 5
Changes to the NXC University of Warwick services this weekend (https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/21246191_2016377875044341_4460563786910697014_o.jpg?oh=cfff99ac482e73810716ab6f67d62a70&oe=5A1A0AC9)...
Includes a extension of Evening 12X journeys to Prior Deram Walk, Canley.
Effectively covering a small section of the 18A route which doesn't have evening service,
I suppose this makes the evening 12X journey 29 minutes each way, a loop around Canley might have covered more ground.
The rest of Canley is probably still in need of something better than the hourly 18 service in the evenings.
When will 2167 in new livery be out on the road
Quote from: Solo1 on September 28, 2017, 08:23:10 PM
When will 2167 in new livery be out on the road
When it actually gets back to Coventry, has it's 4 weekly inspection, and any defects found fixed
Hi Tony
What with 2026 and the mix blue colour?
2026 looks incredible!
So is NX is keeping the old two tone blue? For Coventry
Quote from: Chris on September 29, 2017, 01:20:35 PM
So is NX is keeping the old two tone blue? For Coventry
I can't see much difference in the tones of blue used on 2167 - I was hoping for something along the lines of a dark blue with a medium blue in-between [albeit a single deck version of that on 2167]. At the moment there's hardly any difference between the tones used.
@paulb1973 I have compared 2167 with 4776 and the new darker blue is darker than what was used on 4776, 2026 picture has the comparison also
Quote from: Chris on September 29, 2017, 03:26:54 PM
@paulb1973 I have compared 2167 with 4776 and the new darker blue is darker than what was used on 4776, 2026 picture has the comparison also
Yes - it does look a little darker actually. Looking at the different tones of blue experimented with - I rather fancy that much darker version on 2026 [top picture] alas it seems to have been rejected. But, perhaps, dark blue buses in a grey city on a winters day, could be a bit grim!
Quote from: paulb1973 on September 29, 2017, 03:49:09 PM
Yes - it does look a little darker actually. Looking at the different tones of blue experimented with - I rather fancy that much darker version on 2026 [top picture] alas it seems to have been rejected. But, perhaps, dark blue buses in a grey city on a winters day, could be a bit grim!
On that top picture, is that a President in the reflection ?
@Dylanbusboy45 I believe it's a Trident
Quote from: paulb1973 on September 29, 2017, 03:49:09 PM
Yes - it does look a little darker actually. Looking at the different tones of blue experimented with - I rather fancy that much darker version on 2026 [top picture] alas it seems to have been rejected. But, perhaps, dark blue buses in a grey city on a winters day, could be a bit grim!
Diamond lol
Quote from: MW on September 29, 2017, 06:12:25 PM
Diamond lol
On the dark blue picture of 2026's offside - the lower panels are almost black (probably a very dark blue in reality) perhaps that's a bit too dark. While the middle shot has a very light & dark blue pairing, which doesn't look right either. After all that delay - all that seems to have changed is the lower/upper bands using a slightly darker shade! [lower only on single decks].
That darker livery on the offside of 2026 is similar to what I thought would look good as the main NXWM livery rather than the crimson. Dark blue with (gold) cream lining would have kept the link with the old WMPTE / WMT colours - although the lower blue on 2026 is more reminiscent of the Birmingham City Transport shade of blue.
I have to say, the 'new' version of the NXC livery is underwhelming and not as smart as the crimson and Platinum versions.
Quote from: Mike K on September 30, 2017, 01:36:52 PM
That darker livery on the offside of 2026 is similar to what I thought would look good as the main NXWM livery rather than the crimson. Dark blue with (gold) cream lining would have kept the link with the old WMPTE / WMT colours - although the lower blue on 2026 is more reminiscent of the Birmingham City Transport shade of blue.
I have to say, the 'new' version of the NXC livery is underwhelming and not as smart as the crimson and Platinum versions.
The one you are referring to is BCT blue below PTE blue and is didn't work at all. I was hoping it would when I heard the colours, but it just looked like a Diamond Bus with Black replacement panels
Quote from: Tony on September 30, 2017, 02:06:58 PM
The one you are referring to is BCT blue below PTE blue and is didn't work at all. I was hoping it would when I heard the colours, but it just looked like a Diamond Bus with Black replacement panels
Fair enough, and I'd agree, from the photos at least it doesn't look quite right, the lower blue is just too dark.
Quote from: Tony on September 30, 2017, 02:06:58 PM
The one you are referring to is BCT blue below PTE blue and is didn't work at all. I was hoping it would when I heard the colours, but it just looked like a Diamond Bus with Black replacement panels
Hi Tony is it just a test paint? or is 2026 going to Cov?
Quote from: Jon on September 30, 2017, 03:57:14 PM
Hi Tony is it just a test paint? or is 2026 going to Cov?
I'm sure 2026 is now in Crimson. I think this was a behind closed doors experiment, and the pictures are now released because of 2167.
Repainted 2167 on 20A at 09:50.
Hi everyone just to let everyone know if they don't know already this bus is now withdrawn having said that it's been like that for a while so not really un-expected
Thank you
Quote from: mark114 on October 05, 2017, 11:08:02 PM
Hi everyone just to let everyone know if they don't know already this bus is now withdrawn having said that it's been like that for a while so not really un-expected
Thank you
What bus are you referring to?
Quote from: DJ98 on October 06, 2017, 12:01:20 AM
What bus are you referring to?
He's referring to 6019 (see the subject of his post).
Im gonna try and get pics of all the dead bendi's before they shipped out but i have no idea how to post them
Thank you so much for reading my post 2206 i think DJ98 as a problem understanding on what i had written i mean it was so clear but still it happens
Thank you
Quote from: mark114 on October 06, 2017, 01:51:08 PM
Thank you so much for reading my post 2206 i think DJ98 as a problem understanding on what i had written i mean it was so clear but still it happens
Thank you
That's because you changed the 'title of the thread' rather than just logging the 'fleetnumber' within your post.
Yes thank you so much Winston for correcting my mistake
Mark
has the whole of coventry garage got the new ticket machines
Quote from: Jordan on October 18, 2017, 11:53:26 AM
has the whole of coventry garage got the new ticket machines
I think so, as they were the first garage to have it done. I don't get down to Coventry much though, so I'm not completely sure myself.
Quote from: Jordan on October 18, 2017, 11:53:26 AM
has the whole of coventry garage got the new ticket machines
Yes
2167 has been re-branded for the 20. Picture on a Facebook group. Similar colour to the new 4 branding at Walsall
Quote from: John on October 18, 2017, 02:58:57 PM
2167 has been re-branded for the 20. Picture on a Facebook group. Similar colour to the new 4 branding at Walsall
They'll soon be every five minutes along the Foleshill Road!
2166
https://www.flickr.com/photos/69947186@N08/24121386298/in/dateposted/
and 2167
https://www.flickr.com/photos/69947186@N08/24121385528/in/dateposted/
Just seen 4224 at Dartmouth Circus on the back of an RS Recovery vehicle. Looks like it's heading to Miller Street where it will be taken for scrap inevitably from there.
For any dude that wants to see it 4142 goes to Keresley on 16/A from town at 1044, 1234, 1424, 1621, 1817, 2017....if it doesn't break down!
Quote from: Michael Bevan on November 02, 2017, 04:07:02 PM
Just seen 4224 at Dartmouth Circus on the back of an RS Recovery vehicle. Looks like it's heading to Miller Street where it will be taken for scrap inevitably from there.
Engine now in 4144, gearbox in a 42xx
Quote from: JoNi on November 10, 2017, 10:32:17 AM
For any dude that wants to see it 4142 goes to Keresley on 16/A from town at 1044, 1234, 1424, 1621, 1817, 2017....if it doesn't break down!
Was it the first day out on the road today in Coventry for 4142 ? I went for a trip on it this afternoon and to be fair, the Bus seemed to run and sound pretty good, although due to its age now (and which can obviously be expected !), it does show lots of signs of ware on its inside and some etching on its glass upstairs ! It's still nice to have this old Bus over here though and its Red and White livery makes a refreshing change from all the Sky Blue !!!lol.
Quote from: Coventry Transport Dude on November 10, 2017, 09:02:51 PM
Was it the first day out on the road today in Coventry for 4142 ? I went for a trip on it this afternoon and to be fair, the Bus seemed to run and sound pretty good, although due to its age now (and which can obviously be expected !), it does show lots of signs of ware on its inside and some etching on its glass upstairs ! It's still nice to have this old Bus over here though and its Red and White livery makes a refreshing change from all the Sky Blue !!!lol.
4142 was on the 11 yesterday morning and then came back out again in the afternoon on school 21S, one journey on 27A, and a trip on 5.
Quote from: Tony on November 10, 2017, 10:34:26 AM
Engine now in 4144, gearbox in a 42xx
So the fire damaged sustained to 4224 didn't badly affect its engine it seems.
Is 4142 wearing Coventry fleet names or still repping the West Midlands?
Quote from: MW on November 11, 2017, 01:22:16 AM
Is 4142 wearing Coventry fleet names or still repping the West Midlands?
West Midlands, but unlike two other companies in the city yesterday showed correct destination not a piece of paper in the windscreen.
4142 1039 6A Victoria Farm, 1142 6A TF, 1249 6 LH.....
Quote from: P419 EJW on November 10, 2017, 09:05:16 PM
4142 was on the 11 yesterday morning and then came back out again in the afternoon on school 21S, one journey on 27A, and a trip on 5.
Thank you "P419 EJW" for your reply to my question about 4142, as it's much appreciated ! After i did my post on here about it, i went back out again and did a late night trip on it and i've actually changed my opinion on it slightly, regarding its interior ? I sat downstairs on it this time and to my surprise, the seating upholstery looked to be in pretty good shape and because i was sitting at the back, i noticed more clearly that it certainly sounded very good and unless it does a 4401 and catches fire (hopefully not !), i reckon this Bus could easily last on the road for quite a long time to come ??? Whoever was responsible for sending it over to Coventry, i say a big "THANK YOU" to you !!!!!!!!!!
I caught 4144 into Town yesterday morning and i noticed that its sky blue coloured front roof dome is starting to become a red one, due to its paint coming off ! (It must be all that tree branch bashing that does it ?lol).
Quote from: Coventry Transport Dude on November 12, 2017, 02:30:16 PM
Thank you "P419 EJW" for your reply to my question about 4142, as it's much appreciated ! After i did my post on here about it, i went back out again and did a late night trip on it and i've actually changed my opinion on it slightly, regarding its interior ? I sat downstairs on it this time and to my surprise, the seating upholstery looked to be in pretty good shape and because i was sitting at the back, i noticed more clearly that it certainly sounded very good and unless it does a 4401 and catches fire (hopefully not !), i reckon this Bus could easily last on the road for quite a long time to come ??? Whoever was responsible for sending it over to Coventry, i say a big "THANK YOU" to you !!!!!!!!!!
I caught 4144 into Town yesterday morning and i noticed that its sky blue coloured front roof dome is starting to become a red one, due to its paint coming off ! (It must be all that tree branch bashing that does it ?lol).
4142 is a good one. Hopefully it doesn't have the same death to 4224 and 4401. 4144 (I think!) is the one that has annoying beeping sound whenever it goes near a bridge. I don't get why 4142 didn't go through paint for sky blue.
Quote from: Jack on November 12, 2017, 06:35:23 PM
I don't get why 4142 didn't go through paint for sky blue.
Coventry needs the bus now, not in a couple of weeks time
4142 is on 16/A 19:17, 21:17 Keresley from town if on the working I think it is. New ticket machine issuing National Express Coventry tickets.
2165 20E 0940
4418 has joined the 'noisy club' along with 4834.
In the new year service 18A has a subtle route variation for the first three outbound Mon-Fri journeys which will additionally serve stop ER3 at Coventry Rail Station interchange.
I suppose assisting travellers to Warwick University / Science Park, the existing stop on Warwick Road seemingly isn't close enough.
Service 27A for Middlemarch will gain new journeys for 6am-2pm shift workers, unsure if NWM are correct in saying it's just temporary/evaluation for one week.
0n the radio BBC Radio programme Trish from 6-9am a caller said there were more red buses around Coventry and we've got 10 more coming from Birmingham. No idea who he was. Could the ten be replacements for the bendi-buses?
The b7rles are getting repainted before going to Coventry
Out of curiosity, does anyone know what the Rotas are at Coventry?
Quote from: Chris on December 09, 2017, 02:20:35 PM
The b7rles are getting repainted before going to Coventry
what service will the ex bc b7rle's be going on
Quote from: Solo1 on December 11, 2017, 04:25:12 PM
what service will the ex bc b7rle's be going on
Coventry's B7RLE operated routes? Maybe the 4 might get them but I doubt that.
The extra B7s ought to avoid the need for E200s on 20 where they are too small on occasions or when gaps appear due to congestion caused by an incident on the M6.
I caught one of the E200's last week on the 20 route, from Longford Square into Town and it was only about a quarter full when i got on it, but by the time it got down to the Foleshill Road (by the old General Wolfe Pub), it was already full up and had some standing passengers on it to ! (Shame the 20's not still a Double Decker route like it once was, as that route sure could do with 'em at times ?).
Quote from: Solo1 on December 11, 2017, 04:25:12 PM
what service will the ex bc b7rle's be going on
I predict the 5 and 7 mainly and possibly the 18/18A.
although I expect the 20 will see them to end E200 usage.
I just notice double deckers off peak on the 5 et el when in the past they haven't been.
Experiences in Willenhall provide a pitiful example of poor service with two 13 departing out of service 4837 and 4994. One driver said you can write in but it won't make any difference.
The 21 didn't seem much better 2170 turned up and went dead. Indicative of schedules with poor resiliance.
Waiting passenger said they don't give a sh*t.
Quote from: JoNi on December 14, 2017, 06:48:55 PM
Experiences in Willenhall provide a pitiful example of poor service with two 13 departing out of service 4837 and 4994. One driver said you can write in but it won't make any difference.
The 21 didn't seem much better 2170 turned up and went dead. Indicative of schedules with poor resiliance.
Waiting passenger said they don't give a sh*t.
Sorry but if I've guessed when you are referring to, 2170 turning up at 17:49 (17 minutes late) and being run to another point to fill the big gap in front when 4833 left at 17:50 one minute later seems like someone does care, would you prefer 2170 & 4833 ran together with a huge gap in front of them?
Quote from: Tony on December 14, 2017, 06:59:52 PM
Sorry but if I've guessed when you are referring to, 2170 turning up at 17:49 (17 minutes late) and being run to another point to fill the big gap in front when 4833 left at 17:50 one minute later seems like someone does care, would you prefer 2170 & 4833 ran together with a huge gap in front of them?
Thanks Tony
I even more confused now as 2170 turned up behind 4833.
Suffice to say the RTI stated bus due to Coventry at 18:29.
The driver of 4833 said he was the 18:44 but the driver of 2170 declined to answer if he was the 18:29!
The driver of 4833 allowed passengers to board rather than stand in a bus shelter whose lights didn't work....
As a friend says its all those silly little instances of poor performance that arent dealt with.
Quote from: JoNi on December 14, 2017, 07:59:58 PM
Thanks Tony
I even more confused now as 2170 turned up behind 4833.
Suffice to say the RTI stated bus due to Coventry at 18:29.
The driver of 4833 said he was the 18:44 but the driver of 2170 declined to answer if he was the 18:29!
The driver of 4833 allowed passengers to board rather than stand in a bus shelter whose lights didn't work....
As a friend says its all those silly little instances of poor performance that arent dealt with.
Sorry, yes I was at the wrong end of the route, yes 2170 was the 18:29 to City; 4833 was the 18:44 full journey
Quote from: JoNi on December 14, 2017, 06:48:55 PM
Experiences in Willenhall provide a pitiful example of poor service with two 13 departing out of service 4837 and 4994. One driver said you can write in but it won't make any difference.
The 21 didn't seem much better 2170 turned up and went dead. Indicative of schedules with poor resiliance.
Waiting passenger said they don't give a sh*t.
Service 13 certainly has chronic lack of running time, would changing the current 10 min freq / 110 minute cycle to a 12 min freq / 132 minute cycle work as a solution to improving performance and reliability?
The performance of the 13 evening peak out of town to Willenhall has been **** for a long time. I put it down to congestion over on the Whitmore Park side of the route. Time for TC to take a brave decision and split the route!
Get the out of town 13 to Willenhall fixed and that will help performance on the return leg to city.
Quote from: Sandy Lane on December 16, 2017, 01:45:43 PM
The performance of the 13 evening peak out of town to Willenhall has been **** for a long time. I put it down to congestion over on the Whitmore Park side of the route. Time for TC to take a brave decision and split the route!
Get the out of town 13 to Willenhall fixed and that will help performance on the return leg to city.
I think the issue is more that the timetable hasn't been looked at properly for quite a while. I think adjustments to peak timings would suffice.
Is there anything up with 4406 - its been parked up at the Swanswell pool end of the garage for a few weeks now?
More than 1 'not in service' bus seen recently showing 'Merry Christmas' on front dest blind. Very effective at night. Well done TC and brings some smiles and happiness to those who see them. 😊 😊 😊 😊 😊
Repainted 2169 0850 20A to Uni Hospital
I saw a freshly repainted 2148 at 1.20pm today, arriving at its new home at Wheatley Street Garage !
2148's first day at Coventry in service is on the 20 / 20A / 20E all day
I received report that 2148 was changed over?
Quote from: JoNi on January 19, 2018, 10:13:19 AM
I received report that 2148 was changed over?
It has been, Ticket Machine problems, so hopefully be back out later
2148 is back out again, just gone down Henley Road
2148 on 16 today.
Thanks for that little tip off there JoNi (regarding 2148 being on the 16), as i'll go a walk up the road in a bit and see if i can photograph it ?
Just seen 2159 turning right to Vulcan Road in Bilston.
Quote from: P419 EJW on January 22, 2018, 01:26:55 PM
Just seen 2159 turning right to Vulcan Road in Bilston.
It's been at Hartshornes in Willenhall
2150 has now come out in service for the first time. It is on the 13.
2172 is now back at Coventry repainted;
2173 is at Walsall for repaint
6014 & 6021 both currently are dead with VI defects, but are expected to return to service
Quote from: Tony on January 24, 2018, 01:52:27 PM
6014 & 6021 both currently are dead with VI defects, but are expected to return to service
VI?
Visual inspection?
Thanks for the clarification.
Four Bendibuses, 6012,6013,6016 and 6019 have been towed away to Barnsley..on 15th,16th 17th and 18th January. 6017 and fire damaged
Dennis Treident 4205 will be next.
Quote from: t.w.moore on January 25, 2018, 07:29:42 PM
Four Bendibuses, 6012,6013,6016 and 6019 have been towed away to Barnsley..on 15th,16th 17th and 18th January. 6017 and fire damaged
Dennis Treident 4205 will be next.
4205 was the house smash victim and went months ago.
6017 should have already gone as well
Quote from: t.w.moore on January 25, 2018, 07:29:42 PM
Four Bendibuses, 6012,6013,6016 and 6019 have been towed away to Barnsley..on 15th,16th 17th and 18th January. 6017 and fire damaged
Dennis Treident 4205 will be next.
4205 is long gone
@t.w.moore 4401 is the bus with fire damage :)
Quote from: Adam 404 on January 25, 2018, 07:51:35 PM
4205 is long gone @t.w.moore
4401 is the bus with fire damage :)
And 4401 won't be going anywhere any time soon, so someone somewhere is just guessing
4129 currently on the 6 retires to reserve tonight
Quote from: Tony on January 26, 2018, 01:23:33 PM
4129 currently on the 6 retires to reserve tonight
Its relatively short life at CV explains why it wasn't painted blue.
4129 is standing with Bendibus 6017 at rea off Wheatley St. depot 10.30 Saturday morning 27 January 2018. Sorry about my mistake of course 4205 had been withdrawn as told in full, it was of course 4401 that is still within the depot.
The Coventry Bus Magazine appears to show a pvr of 126 on the regular routes. Are there any other daily allocations not mentioned there as the number of buses at Coventry seems rather high to cover that.
Quote from: Eric Shaw on February 06, 2018, 08:35:24 PM
The Coventry Bus Magazine appears to show a pvr of 126 on the regular routes. Are there any other daily allocations not mentioned there as the number of buses at Coventry seems rather high to cover that.
The PVR in my magazine does not include Peak workings which is around 10 - 15 additional buses. It isn't included in my magazine as many of these buses do a school and or a few peak trips. It is very much a summarisation
@Eric Shaw
13 branded bus on 18 peak bus outbound displaying Pool Meadow. 2165 going on 20 to rth. Load of students waiting for 11 to Uni. They were blissfully unaware there had been an accident on the A45, I only knew because I heard it on a radio in a cafe! Another day same CHIT ;D
Must get MY Walrus out....
Thanks for the information Adam, the allocation makes more sense now including keeping the Bendies going for a little longer.
2148, 2149 and 2152 on 16/A
4404 and 4222 on 18 today.
4222 oldest NX bus out today?
One of the AG 42XX ALX's was out on the 72 this afternoon could be a contender?!
Quote from: JoNi on February 11, 2018, 01:40:51 PM
2148, 2149 and 2152 on 16/A
4404 and 4222 on 18 today.
4222 oldest NX bus out today?
4177 is out on bc97. Currently in Brum.
Quote from: WMT3000 on February 11, 2018, 05:15:18 PM
4177 is out on bc97. Currently in Brum.
noooo 4222 is a y reg and the Volvo 42's at ag are 51 plates
Shows you what I know!!
4843 in Cox St parked up with flashers on.
Quote from: Sandy Lane on February 12, 2018, 04:33:44 PM
4843 in Cox St parked up with flashers on.
4843 - PB bus?
Quote from: Sandy Lane on February 12, 2018, 04:33:44 PM
4843 in Cox St parked up with flashers on.
flashers men on bus flashing or hazard warning lights ?
Quote from: Tony on February 12, 2018, 05:39:00 PM
4843 - PB bus?
More likely to be 8/8A-branded 4893 ?
2143 on 5 today
2145 out for the first time today on the 8
6021 still keeping the flag flying for bendis
Has Trident 4142 made a journey west yet? I'm assuming that one won't be needed as more Volvo's arrive.
Quote from: paulb1973 on February 26, 2018, 05:21:32 PM
Has Trident 4142 made a journey west yet? I'm assuming that one won't be needed as more Volvo's arrive.
No, it's parked up in Coventry garage
Update on services running
http://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/service-alerts/severe-weather-update
2145 on hour 7 from town
2146 5
Didn't know that 2146 had now arrived over here, so shall have to keep a look out for that ? Was it its first day out on the road here today ?
Looks like 5 and 7 are being converted back to single deck. Mind you last time I caught a Trident on 5 to Arena it sustained two broken nearside windows upstairs after brushing tree at Moseley Avenue crossroads!
A model of the new Coventry Station bus interchange and imposing new car park is on display at the station.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/qa4j79
The interchange will hopefully have sufficient seats to improve the pre journey experience.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/d2NA41
The new bus stops are almost in Earlsdon - a heck of a distance from the front of the station where the buses used to stop. I think it is a poor deal fom the council. A clever dismantling of what used to be a very good intermodal transport point. Is the taxis rank going over there as well? I bet it will be quicker to walk straight to town than use the bus? Cars rule the world in Coventry.
Quote from: Sandy Lane on March 09, 2018, 06:01:06 PM
The new bus stops are almost in Earlsdon - a heck of a distance from the front of the station where the buses used to stop. I think it is a poor deal fom the council. A clever dismantling of what used to be a very good intermodal transport point. Is the taxis rank going over there as well? I bet it will be quicker to walk straight to town than use the bus? Cars rule the world in Coventry.
The bus interchange is the width of Warwick Road away from the station and fully undercover walkway, that's far better the the current arrangement where you get wet in the rain
When I've asked TfWM what the current bus hub will be used for is a car pick up point. The 600 space car park will bring more cars to an already congested area.
Quote from: Tony on March 09, 2018, 06:31:42 PM
The bus interchange is the width of Warwick Road away from the station and fully undercover walkway, that's far better the the current arrangement where you get wet in the rain
Considerably better, especially when you consider that the new station building will be adjacent to Warwick Road and that the platforms will be extended west, with the new bay platform west of Warwick Road.
Quote from: JoNi on March 09, 2018, 07:33:27 PM
When I've asked TfWM what the current bus hub will be used for is a car pick up point. The 600 space car park will bring more cars to an already congested area.
The congested area is called "Coventry".
I visited Coventry this afternoon. I caught the 12X from the station, it was painfully slow, especially along Earl Street. I caught an 8A back so that I could see the chaos in Corporation Street caused by some, presumably essential but seemingly un-manned road works.
Until there's a political will to actively restrict car use in town centres, it'll get steadily worse.
I shall walk next time; one less fare for the blameless bus operator.
The city centre needs something radical doing about the car problem. Hear there was a 3 hour gridlock today?? Council won't do much I bet as this is car city.
La La Land time - If cars were banned and bus was the only way to town could the buses cope?
While walking down The Burges earlier tonight to get my No.16 Bus home, i overheard a couple of people outside the McDonalds there say the words "MERRY CHRISTMAS" ??? I automatically thought they'd been smoking something that they shouldn't have done, as it's not a rare thing for some people here in Coventry to actually do (lol), but why the hell are they talking about Christmas of all things, i ask myself ??? But then another girl came out of McDonalds a split second later and said the same thing ? At the time of me passing by these people, there was a single decker "NX Cov" Bus (873) standing parked a few feet up from them and as i carried on walking down to my stop, i just happened to glance back at this Bus and much to my amusement, plastered all across its Destination Box were the words "MERRY CHRISTMAS" !!!!!lol. The Burges can be a very rough place to be at times and not the sort of place you'd wanna hang around in at night (or even in the day sometimes ?lol), but thanks to 873's Driver having a bit of a sense of humour, he sure helped to lighten the atmosphere there tonight and put a wry smile on peoples faces, as well as confusing them at the same time ???lol. ("BRILLIANT" !).
4395 is having its first day in service at Coventry on the 21 today
4395 should be 1012 6 TF 6A 1119 VF 1222 TA 6 1329 LH from town for any dudes that want to see it.
21 terminating at Bell Green due to burst water main in Hillmorton Road Wood End. Cause found out by listening to radio in a cafe. Must put the idea to TfWM of having the local radio on in Pool Meadow like in other towns and cities. Must find out who the leader in TfWM is who can achieve that!
4395 on 16/A
2145 is named Bill Dunning!
Quote from: JoNi on April 03, 2018, 10:18:17 AM
2145 is named Bill Dunning!
Thought that 20 branded 2169 was named after Bill Dunning?
Haven't seen 2169 today. I only saw the offside and got poor picture.
2145 has reverted offside panel without Bill Dunning nameplate on it again!
"2169" is definitely the Bus that is named "BILL DUNNING", as on the day of his funeral, it took him on his final journey and carried his coffin to the cemetery in Kenilworth ! (Was a fantastic and most fitting send off for him !).
The rear display on 4771 is now working again. Must have been broken for at least a year and two months!
2151 has caught fire this afternoon in Keresley Village.
Quote from: Straightlines on May 20, 2018, 04:37:56 PM
2151 has caught fire this afternoon in Keresley Village.
https://twitter.com/s_drabble/status/998234498243485698
Quote from: 2206 on May 20, 2018, 05:42:36 PM
https://twitter.com/s_drabble/status/998234498243485698
Woah, it's been repainted 3/4 months as well. Something is telling me it will straight away sent to scrap.
4395 running about with no working blinds. Seen it 3 times now
4401 was towed away by PVS today
I would really really like a bus to be named after me... how do I go about this?
I was told that 4411 was seen being towed off away from the Keresley Road at around 2pm this afternoon, after it had broken down opposite "The Old Shepherd" Pub !
On my way back from the Railway Station earlier tonight, i stopped off at Wheatley Street Garage to have a quick look at the Bendi-buses, which are still parked out at the front of the Garage and much to my surprise, there were loads of Rats galore come running out from underneath them ! More worrying was that they all seemed to head in my direction, but fortunately they then all darted off into all the weeds and undergrowth !!!lol. The discarded food containers / packets thrown (or blown ?) over the fence all alongside where the Buses are standing doesn't help and it will always attract rodents like that, if it isn't all cleared away ASAP ? That Garage yard really could do with a good old clean and tidy up in places ??? (And the metal fence railings need painting to !!!lol).
4453 seems to have established itself as the Canley bus and has done nothing but solid 18/18A for months every single day without fail! It is hard not to notice this bus as it is!
This may possibly be due to the side display being stuck displaying 18A but if so, I like it! Good thinking from the garage team!
Has NX ever attempted to compete with Stagecoach on the section between Leamington Spa and Warwick Uni?
If so, what were the consequences?
Quote from: :D on June 04, 2018, 11:20:05 PM
Has NX ever attempted to compete with Stagecoach on the section between Leamington Spa and Warwick Uni?
If so, what were the consequences?
The 11 runs between Leamington Spa and Warwick Uni, so yes, I guess they have attempted to compete with them, and still do.
Quote from: StourValley98 on June 05, 2018, 08:02:40 AM
The 11 runs between Leamington Spa and Warwick Uni, so yes, I guess they have attempted to compete with them, and still do.
They run a different route, I believe the NX one goes via Kenilworth whilst stagecoach is direct and is about 10-15 minutes quicker. Is it really a competition though?
Quote from: :D on June 05, 2018, 01:06:18 PM
They run a different route, I believe the NX one goes via Kenilworth whilst stagecoach is direct and is about 10-15 minutes quicker. Is it really a competition though?
I'd call them competitors, yes. The NX one does take a longer route but is also cheaper as far as I know, and serves the university directly, whereas the Stagecoach X17 skirts the edge of the campus and costs a little more.
Quote from: StourValley98 on June 05, 2018, 02:27:59 PM
I'd call them competitors, yes. The NX one does take a longer route but is also cheaper as far as I know, and serves the university directly, whereas the Stagecoach X17 skirts the edge of the campus and costs a little more.
U1/U2 is a much more frequent and takes an express route and goes directly into the campus and NX is only a tenner cheaper per term.
When West Midlands Travel first started running to Leamington it was full on competition with services matched. There was the 12 Coventry-Leamington much like the 11 is now and also a 112 which missed Kenilworth following what is now the U1 route
Quote from: Tony on June 05, 2018, 02:52:17 PM
When West Midlands Travel first started running to Leamington it was full on competition with services matched. There was the 12 Coventry-Leamington much like the 11 is now and also a 112 which missed Kenilworth following what is now the U1 route
Thanks!
Is there any reason as to why recent repaint 4841 has gained the older shade of blue - thought it was to be the first in the revised darker shade?
4771 on 11u sounds a bit noisy this afternoon.
I called by at Wheatley Street Garage this afternoon and all of the last six Bendi buses (6014, 6015, 6017, 6018, 6020 & 6021) have now been taken away from the Garage, much to my horror !!!!!! Was told afterwards by some chap in Pool Meadow, that they were all taken down to Stanstead Airport last week on the back of a low-loader ? (Thought they might have just been towed, but either way, i'm still sorry to see them now finally gone !).
While at Wheatley Street Garage though, i did see a National Express Coach (registered: FJ11 MKK) standing in the middle of the yard there, with some Coventry Drivers either sitting in it, or just looking around it ! Soon afterwards, one of the Coventry Drivers took this Coach out of the yard, then through Pool Meadow and round up onto the Ring Road and looked to be on Driver Training Duty ??? I guess this must be in preparation for when National Express take over the providing of transport for the Jaguar / Land Rover works ???
Quote from: Coventry Transport Dude on June 20, 2018, 05:20:36 PM
I called by at Wheatley Street Garage this afternoon and all of the last six Bendi buses (6014, 6015, 6017, 6018, 6020 & 6021) have now been taken away from the Garage, much to my horror !!!!!! Was told afterwards by some chap in Pool Meadow, that they were all taken down to Stanstead Airport last week on the back of a low-loader ? (Thought they might have just been towed, but either way, i'm still sorry to see them now finally gone !).
While at Wheatley Street Garage though, i did see a National Express Coach (registered: FJ11 MKK) standing in the middle of the yard there, with some Coventry Drivers either sitting in it, or just looking around it ! Soon afterwards, one of the Coventry Drivers took this Coach out of the yard, then through Pool Meadow and round up onto the Ring Road and looked to be on Driver Training Duty ??? I guess this must be in preparation for when National Express take over the providing of transport for the Jaguar / Land Rover works ???
Yes 119 is currently allocated to Coventry
"WOW", that's great news and thanks for letting me know Tony !!!!!!!!!! ("I appreciate that" !).
I saw a freshly repainted 2174 coming through Pool Meadow ("OUT OF SERVICE") yesterday (22/6/18) and then heading around and down towards Wheatley Street Garage, possibly just arriving back home from the Paint Shop ???
There are at least 3 NX livered coaches being parked up at the front of the garage early this evening where the 4 bendies used to park.
Quote from: Sandy Lane on June 29, 2018, 07:47:15 PM
There are at least 3 NX livered coaches being parked up at the front of the garage early this evening where the 4 bendies used to park.
Now part of WT's allocation.
Quote from: Sandy Lane on June 29, 2018, 07:47:15 PM
There are at least 3 NX livered coaches being parked up at the front of the garage early this evening where the 4 bendies used to park.
Coventry's allocation is 119, 138, 140, 142, 156, 157 & 161.
161 is the only one not currently at CV. Due to arrive tomorrow morning
I saw a broken down 4207 (with its hazard lights on !) standing in Upper Well Street (near the old Telegraph Office) at about 3.30pm this afternoon and on leaving Town at just before 5.00pm, it was still standing in the same spot ! How long it had been there before i saw it and how long it remained in Upper Well Street after i'd left Town, that i don't know, but with a Bus Garage not too far away, it's a pity that they don't still have their old Foden Tow-Truck in there to pop down the road and tow 4207 in ? (Shame they ever got rid of that truck !).
Was surprised to see the elusive 2146 out on the road again today (for what must be for the first time in at least a month or two ?) and as it was the only Coventry based Bus that i'd never actually traveled on yet, i made sure that was the Bus that i caught home from Town, so as to finally complete all of the Coventry Bus fleet ! (Am not even going to consider chasing after all the Brummie & Black Country Buses next, as there's too many of 'em to try and find ???lol).
Is the b7 that was in the fire getting scrapped
From what i've read elsewhere about that burnt out Bus (2151), it got too badly damaged and sadly is to be scrapped ! There are some photo's around of it on Facebook and they basically show that three quarters of the Bus (going from front to rear !), was burnt to a crisp ! I think its Engine was the only thing left on it that was any good and worth salvaging ?
Was really nice to see that there's still a good handful of "Y" registered Dennis Tridents that were running around Town today and the ones i saw out on the road were:
4190 (Displayed: NOT IN SERVICE, as it had just finished its shift !)
4203 (21)
4204 (16)
4209 (6A)
4210 (4)
4212 (10)
4217 (16A)
4218 (16)
4219 (6)
4220 (19)
4221 (6A)
4223 (6)
I saw withdrawn 4207 standing out at the Swanswell end of Wheatley Street Garage yard, with withdrawn 4214 parked infront of it and then infront of 4214, was 4213, but i'm not too sure if that one is actually withdrawn from service or not ??? As i came back home from Town on 4217, i was sitting upstairs at the back and as we traveled along (at what seemed like a nice steady pace ?), i sat staring towards the front and it made me realize just how ridiculously quick time has gone by, as it only seems like yesterday when i was sat in the exact same spot on these "Y" reg Tridents on their first day in service and now 17 years later, they are just about ready to come off Coventry's Roads for the very last time !!!! Compared to all the Metrobuses that were on the road at the time back in 2001, the Dennis Tridents when they first entered service, really stood out and looked very smart in their Red, White and Blue "TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS" livery !!!!! Some more of their soon to be replacements were out on the road in service today, in the form of: 4372 (4), 4373 (6A) and 4374 (10) and all seemed to run OK. (At one point late this afternoon, all three of them were parked together in a line in Pool Meadow !). While traveling on them, i saw that their seat moquette seemed to vary in pattern from one to another and i noticed that to on 4370 and 4371 last Saturday, but both Buses were pretty presentable inside and gave quite a smooth, rattle free ride to !
Quote from: Coventry Transport Dude on September 04, 2018, 09:21:03 PM
Was really nice to see that there's still a good handful of "Y" registered Dennis Tridents that were running around Town today and the ones i saw out on the road were:
4190 (Displayed: NOT IN SERVICE, as it had just finished its shift !)
4203 (21)
4204 (16)
4209 (6A)
4210 (4)
4212 (10)
4217 (16A)
4218 (16)
4219 (6)
4220 (19)
4221 (6A)
4223 (6)
I saw withdrawn 4207 standing out at the Swanswell end of Wheatley Street Garage yard, with withdrawn 4214 parked infront of it and then infront of 4214, was 4213, but i'm not too sure if that one is actually withdrawn from service or not ??? As i came back home from Town on 4217, i was sitting upstairs at the back and as we traveled along (at what seemed like a nice steady pace ?), i sat staring towards the front and it made me realize just how ridiculously quick time has gone by, as it only seems like yesterday when i was sat in the exact same spot on these "Y" reg Tridents on their first day in service and now 17 years later, they are just about ready to come off Coventry's Roads for the very last time !!!! Compared to all the Metrobuses that were on the road at the time back in 2001, the Dennis Tridents when they first entered service, really stood out and looked very smart in their Red, White and Blue "TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS" livery !!!!! Some more of their soon to be replacements were out on the road in service today, in the form of: 4372 (4), 4373 (6A) and 4374 (10) and all seemed to run OK. (At one point late this afternoon, all three of them were parked together in a line in Pool Meadow !). While traveling on them, i saw that their seat moquette seemed to vary in pattern from one to another and i noticed that to on 4370 and 4371 last Saturday, but both Buses were pretty presentable inside and gave quite a smooth, rattle free ride to !
4214 is not withdrawn
Oh, that's good news Tony regarding 4214 !!!! ("THANK YOU" for that and "SORRY" for my mistake there !).
Amendments on services 16 and 20E to replace igo services 26 and 30....
https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/service-changes/coventry-service-changes-from-30th-september
Quote from: JPC on September 05, 2018, 06:59:13 PM
Amendments on services 16 and 20E to replace igo services 26 and 30....
https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/service-changes/coventry-service-changes-from-30th-september
Dorchester Way to be served again by NXC buses it seems (the iGo 26 ceases to be). And Lenton's Lane to get NX buses for the first time in a long while.
Quote from: paulb1973 on September 05, 2018, 07:44:07 PM
Dorchester Way to be served again by NXC buses it seems (the iGo 26 ceases to be). And Lenton's Lane to get NX buses for the first time in a long while.
20C is interesting, a link to Walsgrave Tesco as well. Anyone know the last time Lenton's Lane was served by an end to end route? Every past variation I can think of has been a circular of some sort
Quote from: Kevin on September 06, 2018, 10:56:49 AM
20C is interesting, a link to Walsgrave Tesco as well. Anyone know the last time Lenton's Lane was served by an end to end route? Every past variation I can think of has been a circular of some sort
Its certainly been a long while since an end-to-end route ran along Lenton's Lane; we've had the 30, 37/47, was there a 31A/31C? - possibly a 16 service ran this way [I can never remember, have I missed out another defunct A & C circular service?].
I'm not sure of the exact route details of the 20C, but at a guess; Trinity Street, Ironmonger Row, Cross Cheaping, The Burges, Bishop Street, Tower Street, Foleshill Road, Longford Road, Windmill Road, Aldermans Green Road, Lenton's Lane, Shilton Lane, Deedmore Road, Henley Road, Woodway Lane, Hinckley Road, Parkway, Olivier Way (Walsgrave Tesco). Unless there's a deviation of some kind in Wood End?
Quote from: paulb1973 on September 06, 2018, 03:02:16 PM
Its certainly been a long while since an end-to-end route ran along Lenton's Lane; we've had the 30, 37/47, was there a 31A/31C? - possibly a 16 service ran this way [I can never remember, have I missed out another defunct A & C circular service?].
I'm not sure of the exact route details of the 20C, but at a guess; Trinity Street, Ironmonger Row, Cross Cheaping, The Burges, Bishop Street, Tower Street, Foleshill Road, Longford Road, Windmill Road, Aldermans Green Road, Lenton's Lane, Shilton Lane, Deedmore Road, Henley Road, Woodway Lane, Hinckley Road, Parkway, Olivier Way (Walsgrave Tesco). Unless there's a deviation of some kind in Wood End?
The 20C route will be as the 20 route along Foleshill Road. Then it will go via Oakmoor Road, Jacker's Road, Aldermans Green Road, Lenton's Lane, Shilton Lane, Deedmore Road, Henley Road, Woodway Lane, Hall Lane, Boswell Drive, Brade Drive, Hinckley Road, Parkway and Olivier Way. :)
Quote from: Adam 404 on September 06, 2018, 03:32:59 PM
The 20C route will be as the 20 route along Foleshill Road. Then it will go via Oakmoor Road, Jacker's Road, Aldermans Green Road, Lenton's Lane, Shilton Lane, Deedmore Road, Henley Road, Woodway Lane, Hall Lane, Boswell Drive, Brade Drive, Hinckley Road, Parkway and Olivier Way. :)
Not too far off! Makes sense to use Oakmoor Rd, Jackers Rd etc and the residents of Boswell/Brade Drive get the use of the NXC 20C and the Diamond service 1.
I suppose E was an incorrect suffix, but can't say B is any better... it looks like '208'. Diverting alternate Bedworths via Oban Rd and Wilsons Lane not considered?
Lentons Lane users might groan again about losing the link to Bell Green shops, this happened when the service 30A/C link was a convoluted ½-hour journey.
Will agree adding another service to Boswell and Brade Drive is a good idea.
Will not expect 16/16A to serve Dorchester Way as the 26 hasn't served it for some time, TFWM probably considers X31 as enough provision.
Both "new" routes seem to have long waits at the terminus for most of the day, I imagine these changes have been rushed out and are under temporary evaluation.
There was nothing wrong with 20/30/40/50 numbering system brought in during the days of WMPTE when suffix letters were done away with in Coventry.
There was a local custom when buses interworked between the 20 and 40 for drivers to change handworked side and rear blinds at outer termini.
The 31 to Lentons Lane and 41 to Victoria Farm used to operate as a half hourly service to Aldermans Green area via Bell Green providing useful relief when gaps occurred on 21.
The Foleshill Road is classic case of overbussing with two operators operating uncoordinated services . The 20 ought to be double deck as overcrowding occurs in the peak when gaps occur. What about the 20E and its low bridge, well the 48 is completely single deck and could go that way.
Quote from: JPC on September 06, 2018, 11:21:14 PM
I suppose E was an incorrect suffix, but can't say B is any better... it looks like '208'. Diverting alternate Bedworths via Oban Rd and Wilsons Lane not considered?
Lentons Lane users might groan again about losing the link to Bell Green shops, this happened when the service 30A/C link was a convoluted ½-hour journey.
Will agree adding another service to Boswell and Brade Drive is a good idea.
Will not expect 16/16A to serve Dorchester Way as the 26 hasn't served it for some time, TFWM probably considers X31 as enough provision.
Both "new" routes seem to have long waits at the terminus for most of the day, I imagine these changes have been rushed out and are under temporary evaluation.
I suppose the good residents of Lenton's Lane are lucky to get a bus a service at all! They'll have to put up with NXC's offering. I did see Dorchester Way mentioned on the NXC website - but that could mean using Clifford Bridge Rd and just stopping near Dorchester Way instead. If they do use that road - it means buses having to face a very awkward right turn onto Clifford Bridge Road on outbound journeys again.
Has there ever been a 'B' suffix service in Coventry - I can't actually think of one in recent times. As you say B looks like an 8. Would it not be possible for this service to run up and down Oban Road avoiding the low bridge - so as to allow double-deck working? There's a turn-around point there.
Quote from: paulb1973 on September 07, 2018, 05:56:42 PM
I suppose the good residents of Lenton's Lane are lucky to get a bus a service at all! They'll have to put up with NXC's offering. I did see Dorchester Way mentioned on the NXC website - but that could mean using Clifford Bridge Rd and just stopping near Dorchester Way instead. If they do use that road - it means buses having to face a very awkward right turn onto Clifford Bridge Road on outbound journeys again.
Has there ever been a 'B' suffix service in Coventry - I can't actually think of one in recent times. As you say B looks like an 8. Would it not be possible for this service to run up and down Oban Road avoiding the low bridge - so as to allow double-deck working? There's a turn-around point there.
It used turn round at Oban Road when double decks were used on 20's, it changed when Primelines were introduced.
Quote from: paulb1973 on September 07, 2018, 05:56:42 PM
I suppose the good residents of Lenton's Lane are lucky to get a bus a service at all! They'll have to put up with NXC's offering. I did see Dorchester Way mentioned on the NXC website - but that could mean using Clifford Bridge Rd and just stopping near Dorchester Way instead. If they do use that road - it means buses having to face a very awkward right turn onto Clifford Bridge Road on outbound journeys again.
Ah so it does sound like it will serve Dorchester Way, presumably under NX's own steam, still such a horrible route for locals wanting to travel to/from the City Centre.
I imagine Dorchester Way will still desire to have something more useful, think a few years back there was a plan, which never came to fruition, to add Dorchester Way to service 4 or operate a spur via Dorchester Way to terminate at Clifford Bridge Rd Tesco (which would avoid having to perform that awkward right turn), some of those bus stops on Dorchester Way even have [or did have] extra long carriageway markings in situ - i.e enough space for a Bendibus. I suppose it boils down to whether the hospital link can cope with being demoted to a half-hourly spur.
Just a quick question, if anyone knows, were buses within Coventry originally branded as 'Travel West Midlands'? I was looking at the page on the main site for 4217 and it was originally in TWM livery when new, despite being new to Coventry garage.
Quote from: StourValley98 on September 15, 2018, 10:38:36 AM
Just a quick question, if anyone knows, were buses within Coventry originally branded as 'Travel West Midlands'? I was looking at the page on the main site for 4217 and it was originally in TWM livery when new, despite being new to Coventry garage.
The Y reg Tridents were the last new buses to Coventry in TWM livery. Late 2002 early 2003 was when it was rebranded as Travel Coventry
Quote from: John on September 15, 2018, 11:11:39 AM
The Y reg Tridents were the last new buses to Coventry in TWM livery. Late 2002 early 2003 was when it was rebranded as Travel Coventry
Thanks for answering that quickly, was Coventry branded under WMPTE, WMT and then TWM the same as the rest of the region until 2002-ish, then?
Quote from: StourValley98 on September 15, 2018, 12:18:40 PM
Thanks for answering that quickly, was Coventry branded under WMPTE, WMT and then TWM the same as the rest of the region until 2002-ish, then?
As far as I'm aware, yes
Quote from: StourValley98 on September 15, 2018, 12:18:40 PM
Thanks for answering that quickly, was Coventry branded under WMPTE, WMT and then TWM the same as the rest of the region until 2002-ish, then?
Yes, but in the mid 90's when the fleet was branded according to garage they were branded "WM Buses Coventry" which made more sense to me as a local branding than some of the others such as WM Buses Lea Hall, and WM Buses Yardley Wood.
4204; 4209 both at PN 4213; 4214 both at MS all now withdrawn
4380 still had Walsall adverts and a huge pay and go £2.40 poster plastered over a downstairs window facing inwards!
Quote from: JoNi on September 18, 2018, 10:03:18 AM
4380 still had Walsall adverts and a huge pay and go £2.40 poster plastered over a downstairs window facing inwards!
Walsall adverts?
Quote from: Tony on September 18, 2018, 10:46:29 AM
Walsall adverts?
Sorry should have put it clearer Internal adverts/notices from previous life. Ever thought of putting heritage notices in heritage buses?
Oh Dear! Long queue of buses trying to get into the garage at 7pm tonight. Backed up through Pool Meadow, making exit onto Fairfax St difficult for other buses and also affected general traffic on Hales St. Was there a problem in the garage tonight?
Quote from: Sandy Lane on September 20, 2018, 08:48:32 PM
Oh Dear! Long queue of buses trying to get into the garage at 7pm tonight. Backed up through Pool Meadow, making exit onto Fairfax St difficult for other buses and also affected general traffic on Hales St. Was there a problem in the garage tonight?
Wondered why 10 was going to Bell Green passing the Bus Station in Fairfax Street then realised that was only way out of the Bus Station because of the queue.
Boarded 4220 on 21 in Bell Green Road after waiting for person with pushchair to alight and another to board only to find validator saying Vehicle in Motion please wait!
The "MORRISSEY" song "PANIC" (ON THE STREETS OF LONDON) came to mind today, but the panic was today in Coventry and not in London, as there was absolute chaos and gridlock all over Coventry City Centre for a couple of hours this afternoon, with Buses coming from here, there and everywhere, in all directions and everyone of them must have been running really really late by the time they eventually got out of Town ? (Some even ended up running in the wrong direction, just to try and get out !lol). Reason being for all this, was that hundreds (if not thousands ?) of Students had all started to arrive at Coventry University and were all turning up with their bags and cases, so as to check in to their City Centre accommodation. At least 90% of them must have been being dropped off by their parents and so there were Cars parked everywhere, which included the whole length of the Taxi Rank in Hales Street and especially on both sides of the road in Tower Street, which really was the main cause of the whole fiasco, as it made the road very narrow and unfortunately for single file traffic only ! Buses and other traffic heading up Bishop Street towards it, just couldn't hardly move and if they did, it was at a snails pace ?lol. With Bishop Street bumper to bumper with traffic, that then went all the back back down into The Burges, up and around into Trinity Street, under the Whittle Arches and down both Fairfax Street and up past White Street Coach Park ! Buses were then struggling to get either in or out of Pool Meadow and it seemed to get even worse afterwards, as Buses were told to avoid certain roads in Town and to just use the Ring Road instead to get to their intended stop in Pool Meadow or Trinity Street and to use it again when leaving Town ? (Corporation Street and Hales Street were also badly affected by it all to, as traffic coming down there had to try and cut through the middle of it all !). The Ring Road itself then became full of bumper to bumper traffic, both coming down the slip road towards either Pool Meadow, or beyond that and on under the Whittle Arches ! Going up onto the top of the Ring Road was also just as bad and there were literally Buses everywhere !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!lol. What was so annoying about it all was, that there wasn't a single Copper or Traffic Warden around anywhere to help sort this mess out, not one at all and i just felt so sorry for all the West Midlands and Stagecoach Drivers etc...., who happened to be caught up in this complete mess ! All the Drivers could do today, was to either sit there shaking their head, blow their horn continuously, or to just grin and bare the whole thing ???lol.
Quote from: Coventry Transport Dude on September 22, 2018, 09:58:50 PM
The "MORRISSEY" song "PANIC ON THE STREETS OF LONDON" came to mind today, but the panic was today in Coventry and not in London, as there was absolute chaos and gridlock all over Coventry City Centre for a couple of hours this afternoon, with Buses coming from here, there and everywhere, in all directions and everyone of them must have been running really really late by the time they eventually got out of Town ? (Some even ended up running in the wrong direction, just to try and get out !lol). Reason being for all this, was that hundreds (if not thousands ?) of Students had all started to arrive at Coventry University and were all turning up with their bags and cases, so as to check in to their City Centre accommodation. At least 90% of them must have been being dropped off by their parents and so there were Cars parked everywhere, which included the whole length of the Taxi Rank in Hales Street and especially on both sides of the road in Tower Street, which really was the main cause of the whole fiasco, as it made the road very narrow and unfortunately for single file traffic only ! Buses and other traffic heading up Bishop Street towards it, just couldn't hardly move and if they did, it was at a snails pace ?lol. With Bishop Street bumper to bumper with traffic, that then went all the back back down into The Burges, up and around into Trinity Street, under the Whittle Arches and down both Fairfax Street and up past White Street Coach Park ! Buses were then struggling to get either in or out of Pool Meadow and it seemed to get even worse afterwards, as Buses were told to avoid certain roads in Town and to just use the Ring Road instead to get to their intended stop in Pool Meadow or Trinity Street and to use it again when leaving Town ? (Corporation Street and Hales Street were also badly affected by it all to, as traffic coming down there had to try and cut through the middle of it all !). The Ring Road itself then became full of bumper to bumper traffic, both coming down the slip road towards either Pool Meadow, or beyond that and on under the Whittle Arches ! Going up onto the top of the Ring Road was also just as bad and there were literally Buses everywhere !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!lol. What was so annoying about it all was, that there wasn't a single Copper or Traffic Warden around anywhere to help sort this mess out, not one at all and i just felt so sorry for all the West Midlands and Stagecoach Drivers etc...., who happened to be caught up in this complete mess ! All the Drivers could do today, was to either sit there shaking their head, blow their horn continuously, or to just grin and bare the whole thing ???lol.
Ha, yes it was totally chaotic in Coventry city-centre today! I saw No. 20's diverting up Hales Street and White Street. I wondered what was going on initially - but sussed it was 'parents drop the off-spring off in the car to start Uni' day.
I've just found out Paul, that up to "30,000" Students were expected to arrive in Coventry today ! (No wonder the Town was so busy and gridlocked ???lol).
Quote from: Coventry Transport Dude on September 22, 2018, 09:58:50 PM
The "MORRISSEY" song "PANIC ON THE STREETS OF LONDON" came to mind today, but the panic was today in Coventry and not in London, as there was absolute chaos and gridlock all over Coventry City Centre for a couple of hours this afternoon, with Buses coming from here, there and everywhere, in all directions and everyone of them must have been running really really late by the time they eventually got out of Town ? (Some even ended up running in the wrong direction, just to try and get out !lol). Reason being for all this, was that hundreds (if not thousands ?) of Students had all started to arrive at Coventry University and were all turning up with their bags and cases, so as to check in to their City Centre accommodation. At least 90% of them must have been being dropped off by their parents and so there were Cars parked everywhere, which included the whole length of the Taxi Rank in Hales Street and especially on both sides of the road in Tower Street, which really was the main cause of the whole fiasco, as it made the road very narrow and unfortunately for single file traffic only ! Buses and other traffic heading up Bishop Street towards it, just couldn't hardly move and if they did, it was at a snails pace ?lol. With Bishop Street bumper to bumper with traffic, that then went all the back back down into The Burges, up and around into Trinity Street, under the Whittle Arches and down both Fairfax Street and up past White Street Coach Park ! Buses were then struggling to get either in or out of Pool Meadow and it seemed to get even worse afterwards, as Buses were told to avoid certain roads in Town and to just use the Ring Road instead to get to their intended stop in Pool Meadow or Trinity Street and to use it again when leaving Town ? (Corporation Street and Hales Street were also badly affected by it all to, as traffic coming down there had to try and cut through the middle of it all !). The Ring Road itself then became full of bumper to bumper traffic, both coming down the slip road towards either Pool Meadow, or beyond that and on under the Whittle Arches ! Going up onto the top of the Ring Road was also just as bad and there were literally Buses everywhere !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!lol. What was so annoying about it all was, that there wasn't a single Copper or Traffic Warden around anywhere to help sort this mess out, not one at all and i just felt so sorry for all the West Midlands and Stagecoach Drivers etc...., who happened to be caught up in this complete mess ! All the Drivers could do today, was to either sit there shaking their head, blow their horn continuously, or to just grin and bare the whole thing ???lol.
Ahem... and Diamond lol
I managed to get out of Coventry about 35-40 mins late. It was crazy!
In response to quote! This will happen every year so you would expect the University to take the initiative to give them directions or manage their arrivals. Due to length of courses the best part of 50% are likely to be unfamiliar with the city at the start of the first term each year. At the very least I'd expect TfWM to make representations on behalf of the bus operators. A friend put it more succinctly "The stupid bloody students all came back at once so it was absolutely ridiculous and total chaos" I accept they act as a lifeblood to the City Centre and I've personally benefited from Sainsburys being open until 10pm.
I thought uni had already started back
Quote from: JoNi on September 23, 2018, 09:25:35 AM
In response to quote! This will happen every year so you would expect the University to take the initiative to give them directions or manage their arrivals. Due to length of courses the best part of 50% are likely to be unfamiliar with the city at the start of the first term each year. At the very least I'd expect TfWM to make representations on behalf of the bus operators. A friend put it more succinctly "The stupid bloody students all came back at once so it was absolutely ridiculous and total chaos" I accept they act as a lifeblood to the City Centre and I've personally benefited from Sainsburys being open until 10pm.
I don't suppose many drivers are overly familiar with the Ring Road (which can be interesting to watch!). I drove towards the anti-clockwise section from Binley Road/Sky Blue Way - which was probably a mistake, and cars were moving from one lane to another. Noticed some buses seemed to be well 'off route' then. Don't think buses drivers were too pleased about Hales St being blocked off by parked cars.
When I boarded a number 11 yesterday (4211!) two foreign students who got in front of me didnt know how to board a National Express bus. They had no change so paid for two £4 day tickets with a £10 note. I'm a bit slow on the uptake so it only occurred to me later they could have used a contactless bank card. In this brave new technological era of Contactless travel can you use any contactless bank card from foreign climes on NX buses?
Quote from: JoNi on September 23, 2018, 11:33:53 AM
When I boarded a number 11 yesterday (4211!) two foreign students who got in front of me didnt know how to board a National Express bus. They had no change so paid for two £4 day tickets with a £10 note. I'm a bit slow on the uptake so it only occurred to me later they could have used a contactless bank card. In this brave new technological era of Contactless travel can you use any contactless bank card from foreign climes on NX buses?
Should at least be able to use anything that's Visa or MasterCard
Although the existing Warwick University Term Time timeable resumes today/tomorrow a new timetable is [quietly?] being introduced from next Sunday
11 ... Mon-Sat daytimes becomes a 20 minute frequency
11U/E ... to run at peaks and fringes only
12X ... Mon-Fri daytimes to run at "frequent intervals", [more frequent?]
With all the to-ing and fro-ing of timetables on these routes they ought to prioritise the provision of electronic departure screens at every stop. ::)
Quote from: JPC on September 23, 2018, 08:51:45 PM
Although the existing Warwick University Term Time timeable resumes today/tomorrow a new timetable is [quietly?] being introduced from next Sunday
11 ... Mon-Sat daytimes becomes a 20 minute frequency
11U/E ... to run at peaks and fringes only
12X ... Mon-Fri daytimes to run at "frequent intervals", [more frequent?]
With all the to-ing and fro-ing of timetables on these routes they ought to prioritise the provision of electronic departure screens at every stop. ::)
New Timetable is here - http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&command=direct&net=cen&line=41011&sup=C&itdLPxx_direction=H&project=y11&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_sessionID=CEN_EFA03_60502710&lineVer=16&itdLPxx_spTr=16&itdLPxx_operatorCodeForTTB=TCV
Quote from: JPC on September 23, 2018, 08:51:45 PM
With all the to-ing and fro-ing of timetables on these routes they ought to prioritise the provision of electronic departure screens at every stop. ::)
Good idea. Trouble is bus stop management in Coventry is controlled by Transport for West Mids in Birmingham (or whatever they are called this week) and they have not got a clue about what is happening at Coventry's bus stops.
New 11/U/12X , 16/A and 20 group timetables in Pool Meadow Travel Centre for any Dudes that want to pick them up.
"THANK YOU" for the heads up on that JoNi, as i'll call in there next week and pick them up !
4881 in overall advert for Resorts World is on the 8
Bus stops in Pool Meadow have reverted to their original stops with all Warwick University buses 11, 12X going from stand S and Station buses 8/A, 9/A going from stand R. 585 returns to Q. Communicating this appears to be beyond TfWM as there is no notice board or messages on real time signs.
Quote from: JoNi on October 28, 2018, 11:21:11 AM
Communicating this appears to be beyond TfWM as there is no notice board or messages on real time signs.
isnt this and other bus stop updates all controlled by some office in Brum and they just have not got a clue about what happens on Coventry? Do they know where Coventry is? Bet Coventry council pays them a fortune to do this but it does not happen = nice little earner?
Just spotted 1687 going down Coventry Road towards Heybarnes Circus
Quote from: Sandy Lane on October 28, 2018, 02:26:07 PM
isnt this and other bus stop updates all controlled by some office in Brum and they just have not got a clue about what happens on Coventry? Do they know where Coventry is? Bet Coventry council pays them a fortune to do this but it does not happen = nice little earner?
Why would "Coventry council" (sic) pay TfWM for doing something in TfWM's own bus station?
What bus goes to Coventry airport
Quote from: Jordan on November 12, 2018, 10:24:38 AM
What bus goes to Coventry airport
The NX website is your friend. Took 10 seconds to see that they list 21 and 27A as stopping a short distance away.
Quote from: Gareth on November 12, 2018, 10:36:43 AM
The NX website is your friend. Took 10 seconds to see that they list 21 and 27A as stopping a short distance away.
Some misleading info on the website then maybe? The airport site is huge.
To my knowledge the 21 is well away from the airport.
For airport south, yep, the 27A.
But for airport west its the 539. (Not NX)
Is the 20C operated by this company if so found a mistake on the map already
https://www.flickr.com/photos/160193081@N04/45880148512/in/datetaken-public/
Hi, Does anyone know what "Service test performed successfully" means on the Urban eclipse 2's?
Quote from: 4369Beast on November 18, 2018, 05:10:34 PM
Hi, Does anyone know what "Service test performed successfully" means on the Urban eclipse 2's?
I though it said "engine test" as I they are on some of walsall's
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on November 18, 2018, 12:32:09 AM
Is the 20C operated by this company if so found a mistake on the map already
https://www.flickr.com/photos/160193081@N04/45880148512/in/datetaken-public/
The 20C is operated by NXC, as per the 20/20A/20B.
Quote from: paulb1973 on November 18, 2018, 07:34:46 PM
The 20C is operated by NXC, as per the 20/20A/20B.
Thanks for that
@paulb1973 and
@2206
6952; 6954 & 6956 Now delivered to Coventry garage
Quote from: Tony on December 03, 2018, 02:07:46 PM
6952; 6954 & 6956 Now delivered to Coventry garage
Interesting - I did wonder if the Scarborough built ones would be delivered concurrently. Not the first 69xx at Coventry as well - 696x/697x in 1978.
Are there two assembly lines delivering to NXWM from Falkirk also?
Saw quite a number of Platinum's at Wheatley Street Garage this afternoon, of which the ones that i was able to see the numbers of were: 6953, 6954, 6956, 6959, 6960 and 6962. I did see another one parked up inside the Garage that i couldn't see the number of, but i did notice that its West Midlands transfer on the side of it had been replaced by a Coventry one ! The rest of this new delivery will all have their West Midlands transfers changed in due course ?
Quote from: Coventry Transport Dude on December 07, 2018, 05:48:17 PM
Saw quite a number of Platinum's at Wheatley Street Garage this afternoon, of which the ones that i was able to see the numbers of were: 6953, 6954, 6956, 6959, 6960 and 6962. I did see another one parked up inside the Garage that i couldn't see the number of, but i did notice that its West Midlands transfer on the side of it had been replaced by a Coventry one ! The rest of this new delivery will all have their West Midlands transfers changed in due course ?
That would be 6952 I suspect; 6952/4/6 were all due to be coventryfied today. The platinum under the fleetname should be in purple
I think you're spot on there Tony regarding 6952 possibly being the Coventryfied Platinum that i saw today, as it was standing on its own right in the middle of the main part of the Garage, where as 6954 and 6956 were both standing up in the Maintenance area at the time and i was just about able to see the fleet number of both Buses !
Figured this would be the most suitable place to ask.. (apologies if it's been asked before)
Would I be able to use my Regional nBus Swift on the 11 from Leamington Spa? I've never had a problem when using a paper pass from Leamington before, but I was wondering whether the Swift card would, or rather, would not scan. ??? I only ask as it's happened before where my pass didn't register and I ended up paying a cash fare. This incident happened to me on the X70 when I was outside the network boundary - which hadn't occurred to me - and I scanned my passed to which the scanner read "this pass cannot be used here".
Thanks.
Quote from: CL on December 07, 2018, 11:05:10 PM
Figured this would be the most suitable place to ask.. (apologies if it's been asked before)
Would I be able to use my Regional nBus Swift on the 11 from Leamington Spa? I've never had a problem when using a paper pass from Leamington before, but I was wondering whether the Swift card would, or rather, would not scan. ??? I only ask as it's happened before where my pass didn't register and I ended up paying a cash fare. This incident happened to me on the X70 when I was outside the network boundary - which hadn't occurred to me - and I scanned my passed to which the scanner read "this pass cannot be used here".
Thanks.
No it wouldn't work, as Leamington Spa is a long way across the border and in Warwickshire, so it is not valid there.
Quote from: CL on December 07, 2018, 11:05:10 PM
Figured this would be the most suitable place to ask.. (apologies if it's been asked before)
Would I be able to use my Regional nBus Swift on the 11 from Leamington Spa? I've never had a problem when using a paper pass from Leamington before, but I was wondering whether the Swift card would, or rather, would not scan. ??? I only ask as it's happened before where my pass didn't register and I ended up paying a cash fare. This incident happened to me on the X70 when I was outside the network boundary - which hadn't occurred to me - and I scanned my passed to which the scanner read "this pass cannot be used here".
Thanks.
No. Leamington Spa is not in the nbus zone. It can only be used as far as Warwick Uni from Coventry (might be slightly further down the route). I'm planning to visit Leamington next week so have purchased an NX regional pass on my swift card accordingly instead of my usual pass.
Thanks both. That's a shame. :(
You can go to Leamington Spa on a Network Daytripper however, if you buy the addon. That's only on the train though, and not the buses, and you also can't use the train from Coventry to Leamington Spa. Kinda restrictive but it's an option. Alternatively if you already have a pass that covers the trains, you can just buy a return from Solihull or Coventry to Leamington.
NX Coventry's Facebook page suggests some of the Platinums may be out in service this afternoon
Quote from: John on December 10, 2018, 11:20:36 AM
NX Coventry's Facebook page suggests some of the Platinums may be out in service this afternoon
6954 has just done a loop of the bus station and is now parked on the drive
6954 now in service, currently in Leamington Spa
Quote from: Tony on December 10, 2018, 04:38:22 PM
6954 now in service, currently in Leamington Spa
Has it entered service with the standard NXWM Platinum logo's?
Quote from: Winston on December 10, 2018, 04:59:45 PM
Has it entered service with the standard NXWM Platinum logo's?
Sure that is the one I saw a picture if on Flickr with Coventry logos and a Purple 'Platinum' logo
Quote from: John on December 10, 2018, 05:18:26 PM
Sure that is the one I saw a picture if on Flickr with Coventry logos and a Purple 'Platinum' logo
They will all be like that before entering service
6954 was doing Driver Training for most of this morning, but was only going from Wheatley Street Garage, doing a loop around Pool Meadow and then going back down to the Garage again. (6952 then took over this role in the afternoon, doing exactly the same circuit !). I did hear that one of the Platinum's (must have been 6952 ?) headed off at lunchtime to go into service, but was brought straight back to the Garage, as there was a problem with it ? (Something to do with its Destination Display i think ?). 6954 was the first one to actually go into service and be able to do its actual run, leaving Pool Meadow on the 11 to Leamington Spa at just after 3.15pm. After taking a few photo's before it left its stop on its maiden voyage (lol), i quickly jumped on it for its first ever journey. The Driver did unfortunately seem to have a few problems with it, as when he got just down the road to the stop in Cox Street, its Engine never shut itself off as i was expecting it to, but for some reason, when the Driver wanted to pull away from the stop, it just wouldn't go anywhere ? I was sitting upstairs directly above the Cab and all i could hear was the Driver putting the handbrake OFF, then ON, then OFF again, but still no movement ? Then he opened and closed the Doors a few times, but still no luck, but then all of a sudden out of the blue, we were off ! That was until we got up the road and 'round into Much Park Street, where the same thing happened all over again, but this time the Driver radio'd into the Garage and i assume he must have been asking for a replacement Bus, as i couldn't hear him too clearly from upstairs ?lol. The Bus must have been standing there for about 15 minutes, but the Driver never gave up trying the Doors, Handbrake and whatever Buttons he hadn't already pressed beforehand, but he must have done something right, as off we went yet again, leaving Much Park Street at 3.40pm ! The Bus seemed to run like a dream after that, which is what i'd expect from an expensive new Bus like that, but one thing that did surprise Me about it and that was that there was none of the Stop, Start, Stop, Start nonsense, which i was very pleased about ! I'm not really too keen on them when they do that, even though it will be saving National Express lots of money in fuel over a period of time i guess and also helping to save the Planet at the same time (lol), by causing less air polution. With its Engine not shutting itself off as i was expecting it to, i was tempted to stay on 6954 all the way to Leamington and back, but much to my disappointment, just outside of the Warwick University campus, its Engine started to do what it was meant to at every Stop and that is to switch itself off ! Some Passengers sitting behind me were heard saying: "OH NO, IT'S GONE AND PACKED UP AGAIN" ??? I turned 'round and told them that it's OK, as the Bus is meant to do that, much to their relief, but "NOT TO MINE" !!!lol. I only stayed on it for a couple more stops after that and jumped off it at the Warwick University Bus Hub / Terminus ! When i got back into Town afterwards, i spoke a chap i know in Pool Meadow and he told me that 6952 also went out in service (to try again for a second time ?lol) and it couldn't have been too far behind 6954, when it set off on its journey over to Leamington ???
Since typing my post here above about the Platinum's, i had to pop back into Town tonight to see a mate who was out on late's driving and he told Me that 6952 never actually made it out into service at all today ? When the guy who i spoke to earlier today in Pool Meadow said that he saw it going across the top of Pool Meadow, out in service not too long after 6954 had gone out, what he actually must have saw was just 6952 still Driver Training and doing its loop around the Bus Station, which it had been doing all afternoon anyway ! So 6954 was the only one to make its debut out in service today after all !!!!!! There was meant to have been a third Platinum go out in service as well, but why it never went out, or which one it would have been, that i sadly don't know ???
6958 just entered service on the 14:35 11 to Leamington
Presume thats the Coventry bound platinum Ive just seen outside Coventry Station.
Quote from: JoNi on December 11, 2018, 07:22:18 PM
Presume thats the Coventry bound platinum Ive just seen outside Coventry Station.
Could be any of 6952; 6954; 6957 & 6958 all on the 11 this afternoon
Thanks, must admit I was surprised to see a bus on over two hour rounder by chance was slight!
Traveline indicates some revised Pool Meadow departure stands from 6th January...
Stand J ... 8 8A 9 9A towards Rail Station/Finham
Stand K ... 12X towards Warwick University
Stand L ... 11 11U towards Leamington Spa/Warwick Uni
Stand Q ... 10 towards Eastern Green
Stand R ... 6 6A towards Tanyard Farm
Stand S ... 5 18 18A 19 towards Tile Hill South/Westwood
A considerable saving of mileage over the course of each day I daresay :)
Quote from: JPC on December 12, 2018, 07:40:13 PM
Traveline indicates some revised Pool Meadow departure stands from 6th January...
Stand J ... 8 8A 9 9A towards Rail Station/Finham
Stand K ... 12X towards Warwick University
Stand L ... 11 11U towards Leamington Spa/Warwick Uni
Stand Q ... 10 towards Eastern Green
Stand R ... 6 6A towards Tanyard Farm
Stand S ... 5 18 18A 19 towards Tile Hill South/Westwood
A considerable saving of mileage over the course of each day I daresay :)
When people ask staff which stand the bus to the station goes from they say R for Railway.....
Platinum Bus 6959 was on Driver Training duty this morning, going only from the Garage and up to do a loop around Pool Meadow and then off back down to the Garage again !
The curse of the 16 / 16A route has struck once again, as yet another Bus was involved in an incident on this route today. (If they're not catching fire on it, they're crashing into buildings instead ?lol). A Keresley Village bound single decker (2155) collided with a concrete canopy in Cross Cheaping, at just after 2.00pm. Hopefully nobody was seriously hurt at all, although i did see one young girl (who was a Passenger on the Bus) being taken to sit out on a nearby bench and a member of National Express staff making sure that she was OK ? (I think her nose was bleeding ?).
4407 came through Pool Meadow today and i noticed that the front half of its lower deck was full of Bus Tyres !!!!lol. I saw it over at Miller Street Garage yesterday and it was there to collect something, so would it have stayed there overnight and just came back today with the tyres, or would it have just traveled back home yesterday, but then went back over there again today on its spares / tyre carrying mission ??? (Do West Midlands not have an ancillary vehicle in the form of a big Van to go and collect these things, as it would be a lot cheaper to run and use for a parts ferrying service, than a Double Decker would be ???lol).
Platinum Bus 6966 was on Driver Training duty earlier today (14/12/18) and hasn't yet been Coventryfied, as it still had its "West Midlands" transfers on the front and side of it !
Three more Platinum's (6967, 6964 and 6955) that were delivered 2 days ago (Saturday), are now parked out at the Swanswell end of Wheatley Street Garage and have yet to be Coventryfied, although 6967 has no transfer at all on it N/S (either West Midlands or Coventry !), but does have on its Front and O/S !!!!!!
Platinum 6961 was on Driver Training duty today, just doing the usual short trip from Wheatley Street Garage, up to and around Pool Meadow, then back down to Wheatley Street Garage !!!!
Dennis Trident 4379 came down the Ring Road and through Pool Meadow this morning, but sadly not under its own steam, as it was "BEING TOWED" !!!
Quote from: Coventry Transport Dude on December 14, 2018, 11:02:25 PM
4407 came through Pool Meadow today and i noticed that the front half of its lower deck was full of Bus Tyres !!!!lol. I saw it over at Miller Street Garage yesterday and it was there to collect something, so would it have stayed there overnight and just came back today with the tyres, or would it have just traveled back home yesterday, but then went back over there again today on its spares / tyre carrying mission ??? (Do West Midlands not have an ancillary vehicle in the form of a big Van to go and collect these things, as it would be a lot cheaper to run and use for a parts ferrying service, than a Double Decker would be ???lol).
They would be slave tyres to be put on withdrawals. Why send a fan over when 4407 was returning from repairs
Yep, that does make sense Tony i guess, although to be honest with you, i didn't even know that 4407 was over there for repair, or for any other reason for that matter ??? (It basically caught Me by surprise when i arrived at Miller Street and saw it standing there !). The pull down disabled ramp on it would certainly make things a lot easier for the Mechanics, when it came to loading it up with all them Tyre's !!!lol.
Hi, I have a quick question about the 20C and the 16/16A as I'm curious about the timetable.
The hourly 20C is timetabled to arrive at its Walsgrave terminus at 46 past the hour, but a 20C doesn't leave the terminus until 16 past.
Likewise, the hourly 16/16A to University Hospital arrives at 46 past the hour and then doesn't leave until 13 past.
In each case, what does the bus do after finishing the route? Does it just wait there for half an hour?
Thanks.
I've been on both routes, on the 20C the driver just parked the bus on the other side of the road and waited and on the 16 the driver stopped at the stop before the hospital interchange and just waited.
Quote from: Lukeeee2018 on December 24, 2018, 09:48:58 AM
I've been on both routes, on the 20C the driver just parked the bus on the other side of the road and waited and on the 16 the driver stopped at the stop before the hospital interchange and just waited.
The current 16/20C to Walsgrave timetables are likely a short term measure and I have a feeling further amendments are imminent, possibly a package of 'improvements' around that direction.
NXC have recently responded publicly to a complaint about overcrowding and hint the intention of putting double decks on the 9/9A to the Hospital, perhaps achieveable by amending service 4 to take the 9/9A route and vice versa or something of a similar nature.
Thanks both.
Was wondering if I was missing a more intricate interworking arrangement or something.
Anyone know if 6951 has arrived yet
Also MERRY CHRISTMAS to everyone
4403 broke down in Town (at the back of Primark !) earlier tonight, at around about 5.45pm - 6.00pm time ? When i later went back into Town this evening, it had been towed towards Wheatley Street Garage, but not actually into it and was just left in the lane outside the Garage entrance (directly underneath the Ring Road flyover !), with its front bumper panel missing and its hazard lights on !!!!!
I was talking to someone on Platinum 6963 earlier and they told me that two of these new Platinum Buses have received slight damage / scratches on them already ??? Sadly i've no idea which ones they are, but one was said to have been hit in its rear end by a Stagecoach Bus over in Leamington Spa ! Another one was scratched when someone decided to open a Car Door, just as the Bus was passing by it !!!!
Not sure if anyone native to Coventry has seen this but Enviro 4881 has been treated to an allover ad for Resorts World. I saw it on either the 13/21 yesterday.
4881's been like that since late October, I think.
It's a bit of a shame that the ad doesn't mention being able to get the X1 there!
I only stumbled across this one purely by chance. As I said I wasn't sure if anyone else in Coventry or the West Midlands knew so merely reported my findings.
6959 is the first Coventry MMC to receive branding for the Uni routes
6952 appears to be the first with next stop announcements; currently on the 12X..
spoiler alert: it's not the usual guy who does them, as well.
With the platinum buses been branded slowly for the Warwick uni how many are now done & which o es are going to be branded next
2165 20A in new format is on offside
A Whitmore Park bound 4410 was standing on Beake Avenue about 45 minutes ago (just past its stop by Rylston Avenue !), with its hazard lights on ! A Mechanic then pulled up in the NX Cov Maintenance Van, to hopefully try and sort its problem out ?
4373 is back.
Quote from: highland on March 22, 2019, 07:06:04 PM
4373 is back.
Its been back a week or two now (along with 4375) to cover while other Tridents are being 'trapped'
Quote from: Solo1 on April 15, 2019, 11:14:33 PM
who has the X30/1 from April
National Express Coventry have the X30 from June.
Registration is now on Vosa.
Quote from: 2206 on April 18, 2019, 11:34:52 PM
National Express Coventry have the X30 from June.
Registration is now on Vosa.
Could the 16 service to Warwickshire shopping park + hospital be modified to also serve Ansty Park & the station?
Quote from: Sandy Lane on May 02, 2019, 06:14:36 AM
Could the 16 service to Warwickshire shopping park + hospital be modified to also serve Ansty Park & the station?
No
Quote from: Dennis on May 02, 2019, 09:37:05 PM
No
Give us a clue then? Same route, same timetable?
I would hope the X30/X31 is virtually same timetable, ideally I think all journeys should operate as X31 apart from the obvious pre-0930 towards Ansty Park and post-1530 towards City.
There might be the option of reducing or removing the off peak service - all dependent on what TFWM is willing to fund of course.
Quote from: JPC on May 04, 2019, 07:04:41 PM
I would hope the X30/X31 is virtually same timetable, ideally I think all journeys should operate as X31 apart from the obvious pre-0930 towards Ansty Park and post-1530 towards City.
There might be the option of reducing or removing the off peak service - all dependent on what TFWM is willing to fund of course.
Is the X30/31 necessarily funded by TfWM? Or is it something more from Ansty Park itself?
Quote from: Kevin on May 04, 2019, 07:09:50 PM
Is the X30/31 necessarily funded by TfWM? Or is it something more from Ansty Park itself?
Ah, a bit of digging on Google and found this document (https://www.tendersdirect.co.uk/Search/Tenders/Print.aspx?ID=000000007320261) which seems to indicate it is a 48 month contract tendered by 'Homes England' (previously known as 'Homes and Communities Agency').
- I suppose TFWM might badge it as theirs!.
Quote from: JPC on May 04, 2019, 07:04:41 PM
I would hope the X30/X31 is virtually same timetable, ideally I think all journeys should operate as X31 apart from the obvious pre-0930 towards Ansty Park and post-1530 towards City.
There might be the option of reducing or removing the off peak service - all dependent on what TFWM is willing to fund of course.
From my limited observations the Diamond X30/31 service struggled to run to half hour times with 2 buses in the peaks due to traffic congestion and could be really late. Wonder how NXC will sort this out?
Very good point Sandy Lane cannot see whoever takes over sounds like it will be NXC with the extra traffic in the morning peak they will struggle to make up time during the day
Have not long ago seen a Coventry E200 passing the A45, from Damson Parkway and entering Birmingham Airport.. The side blind, from what I could see, was displaying a message much longer than 'Not in Service'
Has any transferred to AG to make up for any of 831-835 going onto the 99/A12? Possibly a loan, even?
Quote from: CL on May 14, 2019, 08:09:01 AM
Have not long ago seen a Coventry E200 passing the A45, from Damson Parkway and entering Birmingham Airport.. The side blind, from what I could see, was displaying a message much longer than 'Not in Service'
Has any transferred to AG to make up for any of 831-835 going onto the 99/A12? Possibly a loan, even?
It's on Coventry's JLR run
Quote from: Tony on May 14, 2019, 08:14:16 AM
It's on Coventry's JLR run
Ah, that makes much more sense. 😂 Thanks for clearing that up.
Quote from: Sandy Lane on May 05, 2019, 10:01:51 AM
From my limited observations the Diamond X30/31 service struggled to run to half hour times with 2 buses in the peaks due to traffic congestion and could be really late. Wonder how NXC will sort this out?
X30 Timetable is now on NXC website (https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/service-changes/national-express-coventry-to-run-x30-from-2nd-june-2019), ..which confirms all journeys will be X30.
Quote from: JPC on May 14, 2019, 06:48:49 PM
X30 Timetable is now on NXC website (https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/service-changes/national-express-coventry-to-run-x30-from-2nd-june-2019), ..which confirms all journeys will be X30.
Thks. Looks generally like still a similar 30 min service all day with now a 20 min freq in morning peak?
X30 appeared to be about 15 late during tonights peak?
Its only day 2. Could it be the spice girls concert traffic or a sign of things to come?
Quote from: Sandy Lane on June 04, 2019, 06:27:02 PM
X30 appeared to be about 15 late during tonights peak?
Its only day 2. Could it be the spice girls concert traffic or a sign of things to come?
With no changes to the running times during the afternoon peak, they will struggle the same as Diamond did.
It needs more running times in peaks - either by reducing the frequency or adding an extra bus
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on June 04, 2019, 06:53:43 PM
With no changes to the running times during the afternoon peak, they will struggle the same as Diamond did.
It needs more running times in peaks - either by reducing the frequency or adding an extra bus
or changing the route maybe to miss some of the traffic? How about divert from the Forum via Longfellow Rd, Hipswell and Belgrave Rd? Save 5 mins each trip?
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on June 04, 2019, 06:53:43 PM
With no changes to the running times during the afternoon peak, they will struggle the same as Diamond did.
It needs more running times in peaks - either by reducing the frequency or adding an extra bus
Well cross link with 8s that sit for up to 10 minutes at station to keep clock face headways....mind you that probably wouldn't be possible with routes being individual cost centres!
Quote from: JoNi on June 05, 2019, 10:59:09 PM
Well cross link with 8s that sit for up to 10 minutes at station to keep clock face headways....mind you that probably wouldn't be possible with routes being individual cost centres!
I guess the X30 route will be monitored for a couple of weeks before anything happens?
What's usually allocated to the CV PM FRI JLR J6 workings and the JLR 28 workings on Friday's?
Also what's usually allocated to the X30/539/580?
Quote from: the trainbasher on June 13, 2019, 06:52:12 PM
Also what's usually allocated to the X30/539/580?
From observation, it looks as though
539/580 - (red/white) Enviro 200s
X30 - Volvo B7RLE Eclipse 2s
It has been mentioned in another thread, but I'd give you the benefit of the doubt if you'd missed it, lol
Quote from: Tony on May 29, 2019, 05:46:43 PM
...
If anyone's interested, here's the updated route/vehicle allocation for CV from Sunday 2 June:
Enviro E200:
23, 28 (JLR), 539 & 580.
Volvo B7RLE/Wright Eclipse:
X30, 4, 5, 7, 20 and 23.
Volvo B7TL or Dennis Trident ALX400:
10 plus various schools/peak boards.
Volvo B7TL/Wright Gemini:
6 and 18.
Enviro 400:
8, 9, 13, 16 and 21.
Enviro 400MMC:
11 and 12X.
Naturally there may be a couple of interworkings and swaps depending on vehicle availability. As usual, during University vacation periods, Enviro 400MMCs will see service on other routes.
Quote from: CL on June 13, 2019, 06:57:24 PM
From observation, it looks as though
539/580 - (red/white) Enviro 200s
X30 - Volvo B7RLE Eclipse 2s
It has been mentioned in another thread, but I'd give you the benefit of the doubt if you'd missed it, lol
Cheers
Red 4362 on 16 about 11am to Keresley
Red 4358 10 to Eastern Green 11am
Quote from: JoNi on June 15, 2019, 10:53:14 AM
Red 4362 on 16 about 11am to Keresley
Thank you for the heads up JoNi on 4362, as it's much appreciated, although i unfortunately didn't see your message until just before 3pm, which was my own fault there ! I shot straight up to the Keresley Road soon afterwards and walked up and down it and up both Keresley Green Road and part of Bennetts Road South as well (to kill a bit of time !), but sadly 4362 was nowhere to be seen ? All was not lost though, as i grabbed a quick photo of old Tridents 4373 and 4374 while i waited, but just not the 43 hundred'r that i was really after !!! (I just hope that it and 4358 will still be out and about in service here on Monday ?).
Alas information regarding
most of National Express bus operations havent appeared on BusTimes.Org yet. The disruption to bus services in Edinburgh caused by Extinction Rebellion can be seen on the site. I dont understand why these people mess up public transport when they would cause more effect if they laid in the road at the entrance to a huge out of town shopping centre!
Finally got to see, photograph and travel on both the on-loan Tridents 4358 and 4362 today and good runners they both appeared to be to ! 4358 was out earning its keep on the 10 route, while 4362 was on the 21 !
One Driver on another Dennis Trident i was on today sure needs to be a bit more careful when he uses his brakes, as he slammed his foot down on the pedal so hard, that it threw me forward into a panel and the ticket machine as well, as i was stood on the platform ready to get off ! My right arm and shoulder were certainly in a bit of pain afterwards, but fortunately my arm is OK tonight at the minute, but my shoulder unfortunately is still sore ! (God only knows where National Express found this Driver ???lol).
Quote from: Coventry Transport Dude on June 17, 2019, 08:22:06 PM
Finally got to see, photograph and travel on both the on-loan Tridents 4358 and 4362 today and good runners they both appeared to be to ! 4358 was out earning its keep on the 10 route, while 4362 was on the 21 !
One Driver on another Dennis Trident i was on today sure needs to be a bit more careful when he uses his brakes, as he slammed his foot down on the pedal so hard, that it threw me forward into a panel and the ticket machine as well, as i was stood on the platform ready to get off ! My right arm and shoulder were certainly in a bit of pain afterwards, but fortunately my arm is OK tonight at the minute, but my shoulder unfortunately is still sore ! (God only knows where National Express found this Driver ???lol).
If he did brake that hard it will have triggered drive cam, so management will see it, but he will have done it for a reason. I find comments like this quite offensive
I sincerely hope the management don't get to see it Tony, as i wouldn't want the Driver to get into trouble, which is why i never said anything to him and made a fuss about it at the time and also why i didn't mention what Bus i was on when it happened ! To be honest, i think he just panicked when he saw me on the platform, as he obviously never heard me ring the bell and i just assume he also didn't want me to end up getting off a lot further down the road than what i'd intended ???
Anyway, nothing was broken and i just hope and pray that nothing was filmed of it ???
"SORRY" Tony for any offence i might have caused you by my comment !!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Coventry Transport Dude on June 17, 2019, 08:43:39 PM
I sincerely hope the management don't get to see it Tony, as i wouldn't want the Driver to get into trouble, which is why i never said anything to him and made a fuss about it at the time and also why i didn't mention what Bus i was on when it happened ! To be honest, i think he just panicked when he saw me on the platform, as he obviously never heard me ring the bell and i just assume he also didn't want me to end up getting off a lot further down the road than what i'd intended ???
Anyway, nothing was broken and i just hope and pray that nothing was filmed of it ???
"SORRY" Tony for any offence i might have caused you by my comment !!!!!!!!!
Management automatically see every heavy braking. Drivecam makes a recording of a few seconds before and after the event both inside and outside the bus and all are watched. This shows why heavy braking was made
Quote from: Tony on June 17, 2019, 08:50:42 PM
Management automatically see every heavy braking. Drivecam makes a recording of a few seconds before and after the event both inside and outside the bus and all are watched. This shows why heavy braking was made
I'm fully in favour of any Drivecam / Dashcam idea really, especially with all that Crash for Cash nonsense and other scams that people might unfortunately get up to these days, when they think they can see pound signs flashing before them ??? Really annoys me all that, what some people like to get up to, but if anything unfortunately was recorded today, it was only because the Driver noticed me on the platform at the last minute and i really don't want him to get into any trouble at all for that, as i myself am OK and it's probably best just to forget all about it now really ?
Bus Drivers must have a tough enough job as it is at times, with loony drivers either cutting them up or parking illegally and then there's no-doubt some annoying passengers to deal with as well (lol), but i myself can't honestly fault any of Coventry's Drivers in general, as they're all great to be fair and always polite enough and get me from A to B safely and with a number of them being Master Drivers as well, it just proves how good some of them really are !!!
Anyway Tony, "SORRY" once again for upsetting you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I noticed today that 4414 was still standing out in the yard at the Swanswell end of Wheatley Street Garage and i just wondered if anyone roughly knows at all please, when it was last used in service, as it seems to have been there for quite awhile now ? (4372 was standing directly behind it !).
4663 6 0932 TF
Red 4362 has Birmingham fares on side and cab door.
837 was standing at its stop in the Burges this morning with 23A on its blinds, but i assume it must have had some sort of problem ?, as it was seen again soon afterwards with a Mechanic behind the wheel, taking it through Pool Meadow and down towards Wheatley Street Garage !
All geminis seemed to be on 6 this morning.
Are there still only just the three Gemini's out in service here at the moment JoNi ??? I went for a run out this morning on the third one that i know of to arrive here so far (4672) and i have to admit that it's great to have Volvo Gemini's back here in Coventry again and i much prefer the look of them, compared to that of the Dennis Tridents ! Would love to know what they are like to drive and to maintain, from a Driver / Mechanics point of view and if they are better there than the Dennis tridents when it comes to both the driving and maintenance side of things ??? All three of them that i've been on here so far seem pretty sound and all ran OK !!!!! (Shame that some of the Windows upstairs on 4672 have been etched in graffiti, which is so annoying to see and i honestly don't know sometimes what goes through the minds of these idiot vandals that have the nerve to do it ???).
The Driver Trainer Bus 4697 was out and about around Cov City Centre this morning, with what looked like two or three new trainee drivers on board, which was good to see, but then around an hour or so afterwards, i saw one of the NX Cov liveried Enviro 400's (4764 i think it was ?) coming under the whittle arches into Trinity Street with what looked like some more trainee drivers on it and "NOT IN SERVICE" on its destination display ! I can't recall ever seeing a Sky Blue liveried Cov Bus on Driver Training duty before, as i've always just thought they used the regular Maroon and White liveried Buses ??? (Was it possibly just being used for type training ???).
4372 and 4404 were both standing out in the yard at the top end of Wheatley Street Garage today and hopefully both Buses are just awaiting repair, although on saying that, 4372 seems to have been standing there in the same spot for what seems like a good few months now ???
Has anyone seen 4414 around at all anywhere, as it seems to have vanished at the moment ???
Why has 4674 been painted in the old blue and white livery ,rather than the new style ?
Quote from: JIM C on July 10, 2019, 01:00:50 AM
Why has 4674 been painted in the old blue and white livery ,ather than the new style ?
They've just had quickie repaints, they're too old to be deemed worthy of full Crimson refurb in the new NXC style with i.e. grey / red dot moquette etc.
In Dundee our 54 plates are getting a refurb seats and paintwork.
Following a tip off good to see some NX Coventry buses have and are tracked on Bustimes, along with some in Brum. It will make the lives of some Dudes easier!
Coventry 4403 is on Wolverhampton route 6A in Pool Meadow, but a least it proves Bustimes can show NXC buses!
All buses tracked so far are under "incomplete fleetlist" of National Express West Midlands.
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Bustimes now tracking to Coventry routes
Have any of the 43xx Tridents been withdrawn yet? I haven't seen no mention as such but plenty of Gemini's have been arriving
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on July 19, 2019, 11:39:51 AM
Have any of the 43xx Tridents been withdrawn yet? I haven't seen no mention as such but plenty of Gemini's have been arriving
Not yet. 4372 & 4398 are the only two not in service today
Quote from: Tony on July 19, 2019, 11:55:32 AM
Not yet. 4372 & 4398 are the only two not in service today
Ah ok, thanks for that Tony
Since taking delivery of 41 new buses so far only the three fire victims have been withdrawn, although expect 43xx to start dying next week when the schools break up and the PVR of the company drops by over 100 vehicles
Anyone know why there's a random Coventry branded E400 in Bloxwich industrial estate?
Quote from: nathanielrwi on August 03, 2019, 02:32:58 PM
Anyone know why there's a random Coventry branded E400 in Bloxwich industrial estate?
You mean freshly painted 4834 at the side of Walsall garage awaiting collection
Quote from: Tony on August 03, 2019, 02:57:06 PM
You mean freshly painted 4834 at the side of Walsall garage awaiting collection
Thanks Tony, didn't realise they weren't stored inside the garage itself
A freshly repainted 4669 has now arrived and was standing in the Maintenance area inside Wheatley Street Garage this afternoon.
Parked up in the front yard of Wheatley Street Garage today were five Scania Caetano Levante coaches, all in a plain white livery and their fleet numbers were: 258 (BD68 TWY), 260 (BD68 TXA), 261 (BD68 TXB), 263 (BM68 AHG) and 265 (BV19 XOX).
Saw 4667 on the 6 route in Corporation Street today ! (Was the first time i'd actually seen it, since its transfer here !).
Quote from: Coventry Transport Dude on August 06, 2019, 02:16:14 PM
Saw 4667 on the 6 route in Corporation Street today ! (Was the first time i'd actually seen it, since its transfer here !).
I did see it on Keresley Rd last week (or possibly on the Sat morning) so its been here a few days.
Quote from: paulb1973 on August 06, 2019, 02:57:02 PM
I did see it on Keresley Rd last week (or possibly on the Sat morning) so its been here a few days.
It no-doubt has been here for a good few days or so now Paul like you say, although i myself only just noticed it today for the first time ! (Would like to have got a photo of it on the Keresley Road, when you yourself first saw it ?).
Quote from: Coventry Transport Dude on August 06, 2019, 04:52:31 PM
It no-doubt has been here for a good few days or so now Paul like you say, although i myself only just noticed it today for the first time ! (Would like to have got a photo of it on the Keresley Road, when you yourself first saw it ?).
Bustimes.org states 4667 was on 16 on Saturday and on route 10 last Friday.
Use Bustimes.org to find which buses have run on 4, 5, 6, 6/A, 10 and 16. By clicking on NXC in the West Midlands area you can find a fleetlist with all vehicles tracked recently.
Pick the bus number and it will show tracking for today. Once you have route list you can click on the route number to see all buses on that route for the day. By altering the date you can see historical data for buses on routes mentioned above.
It's not as sophisticated as some other apps but is handy if you're a dude living in Keresley!
I appreciate Bustimes has challenges getting data from some councils for cross boundary routes. I've written to Bustimes who replied positively to a previous query not related to the Midlands to ask for remaining NXC routes to be added, after all they appear on real time apps!
Quote from: JoNi on August 06, 2019, 07:23:14 PM
Bustimes.org states 4667 was on 16 on Saturday and on route 10 last Friday.
Use Bustimes.org to find which buses have run on 4, 5, 6, 6/A, 10 and 16. By clicking on NXC in the West Midlands area you can find a fleetlist with all vehicles tracked recently.
Pick the bus number and it will show tracking for today. Once you have route list you can click on the route number to see all buses on that route for the day. By altering the date you can see historical data for buses on routes mentioned above.
It's not as sophisticated as some other apps but is handy if you're a dude living in Keresley!
I appreciate Bustimes has challenges getting data from some councils for cross boundary routes. I've written to Bustimes who replied positively to a previous query to ask for remaining NXC routes to be added, after all they appear on real time apps!
First day was Thursday on the 8
From photos I've seen, the new/updated front destination blinds have the route number on the left hand side (above the driver)
Caught to 6 towards Little Heath "Driver you're going to Coventry" who replied Stoke Heath is not on the blind.
Had a wander around Coventry today and saw a lot of surprise allocations (considering I haven't been in Coventry on a Sunday for a good 4/5 years).
B7RLEs on the 9/9A, 10 & 16. While the 7 is, somehow double deck operated on a Sunday - every time I see that route, it's lightly loaded or barely has any passengers, are double deckers really required?
Quote from: Sh4318 on September 29, 2019, 06:33:28 PM
Had a wander around Coventry today and saw a lot of surprise allocations (considering I haven't been in Coventry on a Sunday for a good 4/5 years).
B7RLEs on the 9/9A, 10 & 16. While the 7 is, somehow double deck operated on a Sunday - every time I see that route, it's lightly loaded or barely has any passengers, are double deckers really required?
The most fuel efficient vehicles are used on Sundays
Quote from: Tony on September 29, 2019, 06:53:05 PM
The most fuel efficient vehicles are used on Sundays
I know that, I just thought the 9/9A, 10 & 16 would be allocated Enviro 400s
Quote from: Sh4318 on September 29, 2019, 06:33:28 PM
Had a wander around Coventry today and saw a lot of surprise allocations (considering I haven't been in Coventry on a Sunday for a good 4/5 years).
B7RLEs on the 9/9A, 10 & 16. While the 7 is, somehow double deck operated on a Sunday - every time I see that route, it's lightly loaded or barely has any passengers, are double deckers really required?
Does the journey which extends to serve Lyons Park/Amazon (17:50 from PM and 18:22 return) have plenty of passengers to warrant DD?
Quote from: JPC on September 29, 2019, 09:09:32 PM
Does the journey which extends to serve Lyons Park/Amazon (17:50 from PM and 18:22 return) have plenty of passengers to warrant DD?
When I saw it leaving Pool Meadow last Sunday it was virtually full.
4453 has made its first appearance on the 23.
Looked quite photogenic trying to get into the Number road at the roundabout.
it seems "via Coventry" is now the default on all cross city routes - absurd
and just about as unhelpful and uninformative as its possible to be
Enviros not being used on 13 due to damage from new speed humps in Cheveral Avenue.
Quote from: JoNi on November 02, 2019, 10:00:58 AM
Enviros not being used on 13 due to damage from new speed humps in Cheveral Avenue.
Sounds expensive for somebody! Be interesting to see if the road humps get modified?
There are a few buses going round with no heating upstairs. Freezing and loads of condensation on the windows :-[
Quote from: Sandy Lane on November 21, 2019, 05:34:10 PM
There are a few buses going round with no heating upstairs. Freezing and loads of condensation on the windows :-[
Not really related - but could the staff at Coventry clean the rear-end of 4670, its black with dirt! It seems to have built-up over a while.
Someone has posted on a Stagecoach Facebook group that NXWM are extending the 20 to Nuneaton from end of January.. I cannot see any registered changes on VOSA though?
Quote:
"National Express Coventry extending their service 20 to NUNEATON every 20 mins from late January with cheap fares too!
Result of SC launching service between Coventry Centre and Warks Uni.
BUS WAR!!!"
EDIT: I was just sent this:
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/541755/
Quote from: Nathan on December 17, 2019, 11:20:31 PM
Someone has posted on a Stagecoach Facebook group that NXWM are extending the 20 to Nuneaton from end of January.. I cannot see any registered changes on VOSA though?
Quote:
"National Express Coventry extending their service 20 to NUNEATON every 20 mins from late January with cheap fares too!
Result of SC launching service between Coventry Centre and Warks Uni.
BUS WAR!!!"
Things could start to get very interesting if that's the case.....
Place your bets. Who will win the war? My bets on NXC.
Quote from: Nathan on December 17, 2019, 11:20:31 PM
Someone has posted on a Stagecoach Facebook group that NXWM are extending the 20 to Nuneaton from end of January.. I cannot see any registered changes on VOSA though?
Quote:
"National Express Coventry extending their service 20 to NUNEATON every 20 mins from late January with cheap fares too!
Result of SC launching service between Coventry Centre and Warks Uni.
BUS WAR!!!"
EDIT: I was just sent this:
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/541755/
Another Travelcard destination!
If it's true, I've been waiting for the day this would happen.
Shame the 20 doesn't use deckers instead of dustcarts though.
Quote from: sandboy20 on October 17, 2019, 03:13:32 PM
it seems "via Coventry" is now the default on all cross city routes - absurd
and just about as unhelpful and uninformative as its possible to be
Geographically correct and therefore an improvement.
I am not 'city centre' as a person.
Also 2176 was on a tow truck on the Holyhead Road yesterday which was a little bit puzzling as it had made been out on the 23 anyway.
How on earth can "via Coventry" be an improvement ? Given that most routes operate within
the Coventry boundary "via Coventry" is absurd and totally unhelpful to most travellers. I also
find it rather insulting.
I agree there was a problem before September with "via City Centre" as the generic default but NX
Coventry vehicles never seem to have much flexibility with destination displays particularly in the era
of digital display
Is the 20 extension to Nuneaton definitely going ahead or was it just wishful thinking?
Quote from: sandboy20 on December 30, 2019, 02:24:08 PM
How on earth can "via Coventry" be an improvement ? Given that most routes operate within
the Coventry boundary "via Coventry" is absurd and totally unhelpful to most travellers. I also
find it rather insulting.
I agree there was a problem before September with "via City Centre" as the generic default but NX
Coventry vehicles never seem to have much flexibility with destination displays particularly in the era
of digital display
Think I agree with that, not sure 'via Coventry' is very satisfactory - I know 'Coventry' is referring to the city centre. Not sure about insulting, but it looks a bit lazy!
New Years Day special services
3/3A and 6A 4837, 4888, 4984, 4891
4 2147, 2154
5, 16 and 23 Allesley Pk 4832, 4774
8A 4892, 4890
9 and 20A 2153, 2149, 2143
10 2155
11 6961, 6955
13 4988, 4990
20 2171, 2170
21 4842, 4887, 4987
23 WSP 2161
Services ran well, carrying respectable loads.
All buses on routes 8A, 11, 13 and 20 were branded.
The challenge was finding out what was running and when.
12X was shown as running on Apps as well as spurious journeys on 6, 8 and 9. People resorted to getting taxis as key totems in City Centre were defective. Nothing was provided for the likes of Amazon workers. Enough intending passengers were still around at 6pm to justify running later journeys on busy routes 11, 20, 21.
The lack of a Xmas leaflet missed the opportunity to get feedback if you don't read this forum. The transformation of communication cultures always was for the long haul!
I have read on another page that a registration has been submitted for the 11 to be extended to Warwick....
Quote from: gc802002 on January 07, 2020, 06:11:49 PM
I have read on another page that a registration has been submitted for the 11 to be extended to Warwick....
Interesting. Where was this mentioned, if you don't mind me asking? On a similar note, there is still no mention on the NX website of the registered changes to the 20 from 27th January, which was alleged on a Stagecoach page that the 20 was extending to Nuneaton from the same date.
Quote from: Nathan on January 07, 2020, 06:14:54 PM
Interesting. Where was this mentioned, if you don't mind me asking? On a similar note, there is still no mention on the NX website of the registered changes to the 20 from 27th January, which was alleged on a Stagecoach page that the 20 was extending to Nuneaton from the same date.
The Quote:
Midlands launches U12 in competition with Nat Exp Coventry , although they missed Coventry Station on the first Saturday, who then announced the extension of their 20 from Coventry beyond Bedworth to Nuneaton to start next month.
Now today they have registered their 11 to run beyond Leamington to Warwick competing with SC X17!
Now in three weeks Phil Medlicott is moving off to SC Yorkshire having instigated a BUS WAR in Warwickshire .
His replacement Mark Whitelocks' home Town is RUGBY and he will in fact inherit the war!!!
Quote from: gc802002 on January 07, 2020, 06:19:03 PM
The Quote:
Midlands launches U12 in competition with Nat Exp Coventry , although they missed Coventry Station on the first Saturday, who then announced the extension of their 20 from Coventry beyond Bedworth to Nuneaton to start next month.
Now today they have registered their 11 to run beyond Leamington to Warwick competing with SC X17!
Now in three weeks Phil Medlicott is moving off to SC Yorkshire having instigated a BUS WAR in Warwickshire .
His replacement Mark Whitelocks' home Town is RUGBY and he will in fact inherit the war!!!
Interesting...!
I assume NXC will now need some more Platinum's
How many would you think Winston? Am thinking an extra 6?
NX are taking the U12 very seriously indeed! I actually suspect they may come out on top too!
Confirmed in this week's brief to staff about the 20 being extended to Nuneaton from the 27th
Just a quick one Tony regarding your post on route 20 would a normal day saver be valid
Quote from: mark114 on January 10, 2020, 04:02:32 PM
Just a quick one Tony regarding your post on route 20 would a normal day saver be valid
I don't know for definite, but suspect it will be
Thank you Tony for your quick reply as always it's greatly appreciated
Quote from: Tony on January 10, 2020, 03:57:30 PM
Confirmed in this week's brief to staff about the 20 being extended to Nuneaton from the 27th
Provides a useful source to move spare B7RLE's to.
I would imagine Stagecoach will take the 20 xtension very seriously. Given that
the route will be pretty saturated I wouldn't have thought they would run more buses
but there is certainly plenty of scope for them to cut fares. Currently, a Nuneaton
dayrider plus, which gives travel as far as Coventry City centre, is £8.10 - double what
NX would be. Stagecoach, perhaps in readiness for xtra competition, have already
reduced the price of their Coventry daysaver to £3.50 until end February (was £4.50).
Personally, I am a bit disappointed that they didn't consider at least one an hour xtension
of the 16 from Keresley to Bedworth/Nuneaton as long as it followed the route of the
defunct Stagecoach route 57.
What an ideal opportunity for a test bed for a statutory bus partnership in two adjacent counties. You could call it "County Lines"!
Quote from: sandboy20 on January 10, 2020, 04:34:10 PM
I would imagine Stagecoach will take the 20 xtension very seriously. Given that
the route will be pretty saturated I wouldn't have thought they would run more buses
but there is certainly plenty of scope for them to cut fares. Currently, a Nuneaton
dayrider plus, which gives travel as far as Coventry City centre, is £8.10 - double what
NX would be. Stagecoach, perhaps in readiness for xtra competition, have already
reduced the price of their Coventry daysaver to £3.50 until end February (was £4.50).
Personally, I am a bit disappointed that they didn't consider at least one an hour xtension
of the 16 from Keresley to Bedworth/Nuneaton as long as it followed the route of the
defunct Stagecoach route 57.
I'm sure Stagecoach will take the competition very seriously if some of their fares are double a NXC daysaver. Even more so, it will be interesting to see how much they can suddenly justify dropping their dayriders prices too
Quote from: Winston on January 10, 2020, 04:15:48 PM
Provides a useful source to move spare B7RLE's to.
Coventry already has more singles that they ideally want. This means 2 2002 tridents getting a stay of execution
Quote from: Tony on January 10, 2020, 05:11:19 PM
Coventry already has more singles that they ideally want. This means 2 2002 tridents getting a stay of execution
Same with most depots, NX could do with buying a bus operation that needs an influx of single deckers to allow for future cascades.
Quote from: Winston on January 10, 2020, 04:44:56 PM
I'm sure Stagecoach will take the competition very seriously if some of their fares are double a NXC daysaver. Even more so, if will be interesting to see how much they can suddenly justify dropping their dayriders prices too
I'm sure you're right, although Stagecoach 48 is every 10 minutes through to Nuneaton compared to NXC 20 being every 20 minutes.
Stagecoach X17 and X18 have charged below-standard fares between Coventry and Leamington for many years (currently £4 adult single, £4.70 adult return according to the website), no doubt because of NXC, so I imagine there's a good chance that some 48 fares will fall.
I have no doubt that Stagecoach won't take the 20 extension lying down, but equally I have no doubt that NX know what they are doing.
Coventry East side. Remember a while back when NXC started competing with the 86 and sending the 3 (was it the 3?) out of the city to Binley Woods? Could it happen again with the Warwickshire Shop Park 23 route being extended?
Quote from: Sandy Lane on January 10, 2020, 05:52:53 PM
Coventry East side. Remember a while back when NXC started competing with the 86 and sending the 3 (was it the 3?) out of the city to Binley Woods? Could it happen again with the Warwickshire Shop Park 23 route being extended?
I'd have thought that NXC may be limited on how much they could potentially expand by the size of the existing Wheatly Street allocation, the current allocation seems already higher than it has been for a long time, not sure what max capacity is?
This is the exact wording of the staff announcement
And on 27 Jan we're launching a new service to Nuneaton, extending the Coventry route 20. This will provide new links between a fast-growing town and one of the fastest-growing cities in the UK; all for our low (and frozen) fares.
So it does look like no surcharges onto standard Coventry fares
If this service is going to Nuneaton, is the 11 to Warwick also happening then?
Quote from: Sandy Lane on January 10, 2020, 05:52:53 PM
Coventry East side. Remember a while back when NXC started competing with the 86 and sending the 3 (was it the 3?) out of the city to Binley Woods? Could it happen again with the Warwickshire Shop Park 23 route being extended?
The old 3 & 4 was extended to Brandon/Binley Woods, and at the other end of the route, Bedworth at various times in the past - not totally sure at the same time though.
Looking at the NXC website the extended 20 traverses (after Mill St, Bedworth)...Leicester Road, B4113 Coventry Road, Coton Road, Vicarage Street, Back Street, Nuneaton Bus Station and returns in an anti-clockwise direction from Nuneaton Bus Station via Newtown Road, Roanne Ringway, Coton Road, B4113 Coventry Road, Leicester Road and back to Mill Street. Although it is not an area I'm totally familiar with.
Quote from: paulb1973 on January 10, 2020, 07:26:03 PM
Looking at the NXC website the extended 20 traverses (after Mill St, Bedworth)...Leicester Road, B4113 Coventry Road, Coton Road, Vicarage Street, Back Street, Nuneaton Bus Station and returns in an anti-clockwise direction from Nuneaton Bus Station via Newtown Road, Roanne Ringway, Coton Road, B4113 Coventry Road, Leicester Road and back to Mill Street. Although it is not an area I'm totally familiar with.
This is actually the normal route followed by services from the south into and out of Nuneaton.
The forthcoming 20 timetable and map is now on the NXC website - https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/service-changes/new-20-route-extension-to-nuneaton
Quote from: Winston on January 10, 2020, 06:12:28 PM
I'd have thought that NXC may be limited on how much they could potentially expand by the size of the existing Wheatly Street allocation, the current allocation seems already higher than it has been for a long time, not sure what max capacity is?
In Jan 1987, 191 buses were based at WT - so including the current 170 based now (+ NX coaches) there's room for a few more I should think!
Quote from: Justin Tyme on January 10, 2020, 08:19:13 PM
This is actually the normal route followed by services from the south into and out of Nuneaton.
The forthcoming 20 timetable and map is now on the NXC website - https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/service-changes/new-20-route-extension-to-nuneaton
No separate service number for Nuneaton journeys (bearing in mind service 20 as far as Bedworth still run) I note. So no '20D' or even a 20N.
Quote from: paulb1973 on January 10, 2020, 08:20:53 PM
In Jan 1987, 191 buses were based at WT - so including the current 170 based now (+ NX coaches) there's room for a few more I should think!
That depends on what the 191 allocation was made up of, B7RLE's are longer @ 12M than any Nationals / Fleetlines / Metrobuses etc, then buses aren't parked so tightly together in depots these days due to health & safety, there's dedicated marked parking lanes with much wider gaps between parked buses which will also reduce capacity slightly. Not sure who much is already parked outside/up the side overnight.
Quote from: Winston on January 10, 2020, 11:36:38 PM
That depends on what the 191 allocation was made up of, B7RLE's are longer @ 12M than any Nationals / Fleetlines / Metrobuses etc, then buses aren't parked so tightly together in depots these days due to health & safety, there's dedicated marked parking lanes with much wider gaps between parked buses which will also reduce capacity slightly. Not sure who much is already parked outside/up the side overnight.
In 1986-87 etc Metrobuses, Fleetlines & Nationals indeed dominated - not sure how many are parked outside, but a good 40 or more I should think. So that still leaves around 120 inside - which is quite a lot. c.190 was probably the peak number ever housed at WT, with a very gentle decline ever since, bar an upturn in 2018/19.
Quote from: sandboy20 on December 30, 2019, 02:24:08 PM
How on earth can "via Coventry" be an improvement ? Given that most routes operate within
the Coventry boundary "via Coventry" is absurd and totally unhelpful to most travellers. I also
find it rather insulting.
I agree there was a problem before September with "via City Centre" as the generic default but NX
Coventry vehicles never seem to have much flexibility with destination displays particularly in the era
of digital display
'Coventry' puts Wheatley Street in line with the other garages that could not use "City Centre" its probably as simple as that.
Although,
"District"
"Central Business District"
"Pool Meadow" would be best otherwise "Cross Cheaping" (Who would want to get a bus to Cross Cheaping) or "Trinity Street"
Or, we could have none and require passengers specify their destination to the driver.
The 'Tile Hill' destination for services 4 and 10 are somewhat vague and neither of which serve anywhere near the district centre at Jardine Crescent.
If it was up to me I would have the 4 display 'Tile Hill Village' and 10 display 'Torrington Avenue' - despite both terminating at the same location but it'll be à la former 10/11 services to Eastern Green/Broad Lane.
Quote from: JPC on January 19, 2020, 04:37:40 PM
The 'Tile Hill' destination for services 4 and 10 are somewhat vague and neither of which serve anywhere near the district centre at Jardine Crescent.
If it was up to me I would have the 4 display 'Tile Hill Village' and 10 display 'Torrington Avenue' - despite both terminating at the same location but it'll be à la former 10/11 services to Eastern Green/Broad Lane.
'Tile Hill South' has been displayed previously - which is geographically about right!
Quote from: paulb1973 on January 10, 2020, 08:24:05 PM
No separate service number for Nuneaton journeys (bearing in mind service 20 as far as Bedworth still run) I note. So no '20D' or even a 20N.
The Stagecoach 48 has been running to either Atherstone/Tamworth or Leicester for a few years now without having a separate service number, so the customers on the route should be used to that by now.
A single decker (20 branded) is on the back of a tow truck back to the garage.
6952 and 6967 parked up on Moor Street Queensway. Was hoping to see 7000 pass to complete a last Fleetline day hat trick!
Attention dude red 4358 is on 16 today its actual position can be tracked on Bustimes.org!
This morning in Coventry City centre, I saw a red/white liveried NXWM bus operating. I only saw the back of the bus, and it looked like it was numbered 28. That route number doesn't exist on the NXC website. Does anyone know what route it does?
I also saw a red/white bus in Kenilworth Town Centre (not sure if it was the same bus). I do note it had more passengers on it (two) than I saw on most Stagecoach buses in Warwick/Leamington/Stratford today!
Quote from: ellspurs on March 26, 2020, 06:50:54 PM
This morning in Coventry City centre, I saw a red/white liveried NXWM bus operating. I only saw the back of the bus, and it looked like it was numbered 28. That route number doesn't exist on the NXC website. Does anyone know what route it does?
I also saw a red/white bus in Kenilworth Town Centre (not sure if it was the same bus). I do note it had more passengers on it (two) than I saw on most Stagecoach buses in Warwick/Leamington/Stratford today!
Getting about a bit aren't you?
28 is a service for JLR
Quote from: Tony on March 26, 2020, 06:58:37 PM
Getting about a bit aren't you?
28 is a service for JLR
Depending on whomever's route I am covering, I can be anywhere from Ceredigion to Hunstanton/Stalham west to east, and Lincoln to Aylesbury north to South.
And I didn't realise the JLR routes sometimes had normal route numbers - now I know!
Does anyone know if and when NXC are taking over the 1 and whether there will be special timetable? I assume it will be worked with E200s.
Quote from: JoNi on April 07, 2020, 09:27:20 PM
Does anyone know if and when NXC are taking over the 1 and whether there will be special timetable? I assume it will be worked with E200s.
All now on the website - https://nxbus.co.uk/routes/coventry/C01/?timetable[day]=&tab=
Quote from: Adam 404 on April 08, 2020, 03:56:10 PM
All now on the website - https://nxbus.co.uk/routes/coventry/C01/?timetable[day]=&tab=
I remember when the 1 used to be Chapelfields to Toll Barr island. There's at least a retail park there now.
The 11 and 12X are changing after Easter with 12X reduced to hourly.
On Easter Sunday and Easter Monday there is no 12X running and the speel on the NXC website implys the current 11 timetable is running on those days but there is an 11 timetable posted starting 12th April (Easter Sunday) with morning journeys retimed to run earlier from University!
Nice to see the most recent photo uploads of Mk 1 Metrobuses in Coventry in the 1980's. Looks like all over advertising was in vogue at the time
also decently informative (non digital of course) destination displays with not a "via Coventry" in sight
Quote from: sandboy20 on May 01, 2020, 11:17:33 AM
Nice to see the most recent photo uploads of Mk 1 Metrobuses in Coventry in the 1980's. Looks like all over advertising was in vogue at the time
also decently informative (non digital of course) destination displays with not a "via Coventry" in sight
Mk1's 2161-2167 carried many ad schemes !
Quote from: sandboy20 on May 01, 2020, 11:17:33 AM
Nice to see the most recent photo uploads of Mk 1 Metrobuses in Coventry in the 1980's. Looks like all over advertising was in vogue at the time
also decently informative (non digital of course) destination displays with not a "via Coventry" in sight
What you have to remember is photographs pre 2004 were all on film, not digital and were not cheap, so you didn't get the repeat shots in case it didn't turn out right then, and unusual things were photographed more than the ordinary. This means that when I have asked for photos to use I am much more likely to get advert photos than ordinary ones of any bus that did caryy an advert
Current operational fleet
841
842
843
844
871
872
873
874
875
4767
4768
4769
4770
4771
4772
4830
4831
4832
4833
4834
4835
4836
4837
4838
4839
4840
4841
4842
4881
4882
4883
4884
4885
4886
4887
4888
4889
4891
4893
4894
4983
4984
4985
4986
4987
4988
4989
4990
4991
4992
4993
4994
4995
6951
6952
6953
6954
6955
6956
6957
6958
6959
6960
6961
6962
6963
6964
6965
6966
6967
7540
7541
Thanks for updated list,
An item on tonights National news states only 5 passengers are going to be allowed on single deckers. I travelled on two E200s today both carrying 8 passengers none wearing face masks who travelled without any quarms so in reality there shouldn't be a need for any more doubles.
Quote from: JoNi on May 04, 2020, 08:11:07 PM
Thanks for updated list,
An item on tonights National news states only 5 passengers are going to be allowed on single deckers. I travelled on two E200s today both carrying 8 passengers none wearing face masks who travelled without any quarms so in reality there shouldn't be a need for any more doubles.
That is not what the news article said.
What it said was that "if" buses were to maintain 2m social distancing they would only fit 5 passengers on a single deck. The article also has a serious discrepancy as it said 15 on a double deck so not sure how you only fit 5 on the lower saloon but 10 on the upper saloon
Quote from: Tony on May 04, 2020, 08:35:01 PM
... Not sure how you only fit 5 on the lower saloon but 10 on the upper saloon.
Well definitely not 10 but depending on the bus, I'm sure there's a few extra seats where the driver's can would have been..
Should be fun.
Thing is, what is the position on jobseekers and bus travel?
If Job seeking isn't work
Quote from: Ben on May 13, 2020, 05:11:41 PM
Should be fun.
Thing is, what is the position on jobseekers and bus travel?
If Job seeking isn't work
Job seekers have been told they don't need to sign on at the moment, and what travel would you need to do to seek work at the moment. You wouldn't be invitied to an interview
Quote from: Ben on May 13, 2020, 05:11:41 PM
Should be fun.
Whats fun?
Quote from: Tony on May 13, 2020, 06:22:23 PM
Job seekers have been told they don't need to sign on at the moment, and what travel would you need to do to seek work at the moment. You wouldn't be invitied to an interview
And there's a notice on the door saying stuff is taking place on the phone I think, or something like that.
Quote from: Ben on May 13, 2020, 05:11:41 PM
Should be fun.
Thing is, what is the position on jobseekers and bus travel?
If Job seeking isn't work
Nobody has said you can't travel by bus, otherwise I could have been prevented from topping up my Swift card
I've seen OAPs on buses going shopping who presumably live on their own and have to buy food to survive.
My local station has a sign by the entrance stating you can only catch a train if you are a key worker.
The key message is don't leave home if you are ill (isolate in government speak)
The fascinating part will be how different Operators regain their market share. Uber has made a noticeable reappearance!
Quote from: JoNi on May 13, 2020, 06:36:42 PM
Nobody says you can't travel by bus, otherwise I could have been prevented from topping my Swift card
I've seen OAPs on buses going shopping who presumably live on their own and have to buy food to survive.
My local station has a sign by the entrance stating you can only catch a train if you are a key worker.
The key message is don't leave home if you are ill (isolate in government speak)
I think the message is its fine to use public transport if you have to, anyone going shopping will be making an essential journey so that's perfectly fine.
On the other hand you have about approximately 50/60 men in their 30/40's gathered closely together playing football in the field at St Margarets Road, by the Bromford Lane junction this evening at 18:00 - that is more of an issue I believe, than people going to get their shopping.
Is there no way a SWIFT card can be topped up online though? If not something that should be looked at I think. As surely would also have saved you an unnecessary journey.
Quote from: 2206 on May 13, 2020, 06:39:55 PM
I think the message is its fine to use public transport if you have to, anyone going shopping will be making an essential journey so that's perfectly fine.
On the other hand you have about approximately 50/60 men in their 30/40's gathered closely together playing football in the field at St Margarets Road, by the Bromford Lane junction this evening at 18:00 - that is more of an issue I believe, than people going to get their shopping.
Is there no way a SWIFT card can be topped up online though? If not something that should be looked at I think. As surely would also have saved you an unnecessary journey.
Yes a swift card can be topped online but can only be collected at certain bus stops or android devices.
The thing is though if the person wanted to top it up at a payzone (I believe not all corner shops have those machines) in cash then they can do so (it isn't an unnecessary journey either as the person may have had to get some shopping too from the payzone retailer).
After loading product onto Swiftcard from machine this morning (and completing survey again) a chap standing 2 metres behind me asked how much it was for trains as well. After finding menu for bus and train...and tram although he wasn't sure what that was, he looked completely blank when it asked what zone he wished to travel in. Seamless travel hasnt arrived yet as there is no zone map on the machine. Looks like the Travel Centre can be justified for a while yet or more to the point the people in it!
Quote from: 2206 on May 13, 2020, 06:33:22 PM
Whats fun?
I meant interesting/unusual. I apologise.
Tridents 4413 and 4406 back out today, although 4406 has already failed in town centre. Judging by number of buses being driven by mechanics its not the only bus in trouble.
Quote from: JoNi on May 28, 2020, 09:01:35 AM
. Judging by number of buses being driven by mechanics its not the only bus in trouble.
No, They will be road testing them
Quote from: Tony on May 28, 2020, 09:07:42 AM
No, They will be road testing them
4406 is still in service on time
Quote from: Tony on May 28, 2020, 09:12:17 AM
4406 is still in service on time
It was on time after missing a trip to Wood End, which I can't prove because the vehicle position information is not shown for the 21 on Bustimes.org
I posted picture on Facebook of van in attendance that brought engineer to resuscitate 4406.
What's more important is passengers who waited over 20 minutes weren't left behind by following bus which only had 7 people on board coming back from Wood End.
Grant Shapps indicated in one of the daily government briefing sessions that endeavours would be made to have journey loading information on Apps such as Citymapper which should take the stress out of waiting when there has been a gap in service!
The regular policeman on foot patrol said good morning and I exchanged usual morning wave with WPC in van.
Quote from: JoNi on May 28, 2020, 10:53:05 AM
It was on time after missing a trip to Wood End, which I can't prove because the vehicle position information is not shown for the 21 on Bustimes.org
I posted picture on Facebook of van in attendance that brought engineer to resuscitate 4406.
What's more important is passengers who waited over 20 minutes weren't left behind by following bus which only had 7 people on board coming back from Wood End.
Grant Shapps indicated in one of the daily government briefing sessions that endeavours would be made to have journey loading information on Apps such as Citymapper which should take the stress out of waiting when there has been a gap in service!
The regular policeman on foot patrol said good morning and I exchanged usual morning wave with WPC in van.
Yes, a bus missed half a trip through a mechanical problem. It happens to every operator every day of the week. Not really a need for the over the top reply
833 is in service today at CV.
I believe this is its first day in use there despite transferring two months ago.
Quote from: Tony on May 28, 2020, 02:38:11 PM
833 is in service today at CV.
I believe this is its first day in use there despite transferring two months ago.
It did run this morning, but just went outside the house to take picture of it to see 873 going past not in service!
Quote from: Tony on May 28, 2020, 02:38:11 PM
833 is in service today at CV.
I believe this is its first day in use there despite transferring two months ago.
Just need to try and find a home for the odd 834 next please.
Quote from: BN on May 28, 2020, 07:53:13 PM
Just need to try and find a home for the odd 834 next please.
Wasn't there going 3 b7s going from PN to WN with 3 E200s going the other way when the big changes in west Dudley happened?
Also is one of the 67** still at PN?
Quote from: Tony on May 28, 2020, 02:38:11 PM
833 is in service today at CV.
I believe this is its first day in use there despite transferring two months ago.
833 was on 580 at 10 o'clock.
More Tridents back on road today including Coventry Transport liveried 4453 on 4. 4370 is on 21.
No sign of any Gemini's yet.
Quote from: JoNi on May 29, 2020, 11:21:15 AM
More Tridents back on road today including Coventry Transport liveried 4453 on 4. 4370 is on 21.
No sign of any Gemini's yet.
Volvo B7TL 4421 was on the 5 earlier today [Fri]
Quote from: paulb1973 on May 29, 2020, 03:08:18 PM
Volvo B7TL 4421 was on the 5 earlier today [Fri]
4423 is also out, they are the only two Volvos in use at CV today.
The only vehicles not currently taxed at CV are
4660; 4666; 4669; 4677; 4775; 4890; 4892; 7539
all others are available for service if needed
Quote from: Tony on May 29, 2020, 03:16:13 PM
4423 is also out, they are the only two Volvos in use at CV today.
The only vehicles not currently taxed at CV are
4660; 4666; 4669; 4677; 4775; 4890; 4892; 7539
all others are available for service if needed
So most of the fleet is available now - obviously a few of those are off the road; 4677 with fire damage, 4890/2 in paint and 7539 at Plaxtons.
Likewise to what has happened in Wolverhampton there is going to be a number of stop changes in Coventry from 14th June (https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/service-changes/changes-to-bus-stops-in-coventry-city-centre-from-sunday-14th-june) in the hope of assisting social distance measures.
Impressively they are resolving the few groans I have had since the review last year, such as the Fenside bound 3/3A not stopping anywhere near Pool Meadow although they do stop at the start of Trinity Street most of the time on a hush hush unload only basis, it will use a new stop outside the Old Fire Station.
Also resolved is my past moan about the Primark stop which gains 10A to Westwood but loses service 10 (which supposedly combined with 11 to Earlsdon), the 10A obviously combines better with the 11/87 to Warwick Rd and Central Six, 87 to Kenilworth Rd, Canley Crematorium and Cannon Park shops. The 10 is moving to a new stop on Corporation St to join with the 4 and 6/6A towards Till Hill which also moves here.
Quote from: JPC on June 09, 2020, 05:04:47 PM
Likewise to what has happened in Wolverhampton there is going to be a number of stop changes in Coventry from 14th June (https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/service-changes/changes-to-bus-stops-in-coventry-city-centre-from-sunday-14th-june) in the hope of assisting social distance measures.
Impressively they are resolving the few groans I have had since the review last year, such as the Fenside bound 3/3A not stopping anywhere near Pool Meadow although they do stop at the start of Trinity Street most of the time on a hush hush unload only basis, it will use a new stop outside the Old Fire Station.
Also resolved is my past moan about the Primark stop which gains 10A to Westwood but loses service 10 (which supposedly combined with 11 to Earlsdon), the 10A obviously combines better with the 11/12X/87 to Warwick Rd and Central Six, 12X/87 to Kenilworth Rd and 87 to Cannon Park shops. The 10 is moving to a new stop on Corporation St to combine with the 4 and 6/6A which also moves here.
From what I've heard though the Wolves changes are short term, They may go back to 'normal' routes in due course. The Cov Changes are also probably the same.
Regards
Bus Man K2
Amidst the pandemic, there has in fact been a new service registration. The return of service 1 to National Express Coventry.
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/549243/ (ftp://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/549243/)
Its a shame that National Express Coventry didn't publicise it better.
I thought it odd nobody had posted then I looked again...
Quote from: Ben on June 10, 2020, 08:13:08 PM
Amidst the pandemic, there has in fact been a new service registration. The return of service 1 to National Express Coventry.
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/549243/ (ftp://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/549243/)
Its a shame that National Express Coventry didn't publicise it better.
I thought it odd nobody had posted then I looked again...
Why would you publicise it at the moment. Bus still runs as before so essential workers soon know, and there's no need for veg to go out looking for it
Just looking at today's photo of 4890, presumably in Walsall paint shop. The 'non sky blue' part of the livery appears to be a much richer blue than normal. Is it just the lighting conditions at the time the photo was taken? Looks quite good actually.
Quote from: RW on June 11, 2020, 10:30:15 AM
Just looking at today's photo of 4890, presumably in Walsall paint shop. The 'non sky blue' part of the livery appears to be a much richer blue than normal. Is it just the lighting conditions at the time the photo was taken? Looks quite good actually.
My camera is busy and I am using an old one and had the settings wrong for an indoor photo
Changes to the 11 in Leamington Town Centre due to closure of The Parade have been published on the website:
https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/temporary-diversions/leamington-town-centre-bus-stop-changes?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=SocialSignIn
Quote from: Tony on June 11, 2020, 11:37:12 AM
My camera is busy and I am using an old one and had the settings wrong for an indoor photo
I'd keep the same settings Tony the 'new' livery looks pretty good!
Quote from: Tony on June 10, 2020, 08:19:39 PM
Why would you publicise it at the moment. Bus still runs as before so essential workers soon know, and there's no need for veg to go out looking for it
I think the answer lies in aspects of management that aren't quite suitable for a web forum.
Anyone know if the coventry based 7539 is back from the cleaners yet? Thanks!
Quote from: windy miller on June 16, 2020, 02:36:34 AM
Anyone know if the coventry based 7539 is back from the cleaners yet? Thanks!
No
7539 arrived back at Coventry today
Quote from: Beano2211 on June 16, 2020, 11:13:05 AM
7539 arrived back at Coventry today
Yea, this overtook me twice on the motorway as I was heading back from Boston. Once just as I joined the M1 at Junction 21A, and again on the M69 as I overtook it at Junction 21. Tow truck was maintaining 61mph towing it!
The front matrix display was missing.
Many thanks to you both My one remaining hybrid hopefully back on the leamington run soon Am I right in thinking coventry has no E deliveries yet? thanks
Quote from: windy miller on June 17, 2020, 02:46:12 AM
Many thanks to you both My one remaining hybrid hopefully back on the leamington run soon Am I right in thinking coventry has no E deliveries yet? thanks
Electric vehicles have been sighted in the vicinity of Fairfax street on driver training.
4678 has been out on the 6 today. First Gemini out since March
2163 on 1 but 20/A still double deck
2144 has appeared on 20 but rest still seemingly double deck.
Quote from: JoNi on July 06, 2020, 03:10:47 PM
2144 has appeared on 20 but rest still seemingly double deck.
The option for the 20/A to be double deck will be there until they reinstate and integrate the 20B into the run, right?
And speaking of that...
https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/news/route-20-20a-20c-timetable-increases-from-19th-july-2020
https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/more-changes-announced-coventrys-bus-18599211 (why it needs a whole news article devoted to it I'll never know)
The 20A/C timetables that are linked on the NXC website have 20B timings listed on them, even though neither article mentions that the 20B is being reinstated.
And, if the 20B is being reinstated, does this mean all 20/A/B/C are back to single deckers?
Quote from: ellspurs on July 15, 2020, 06:08:36 PM
And speaking of that...
https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/news/route-20-20a-20c-timetable-increases-from-19th-july-2020
https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/more-changes-announced-coventrys-bus-18599211 (why it needs a whole news article devoted to it I'll never know)
The 20A/C timetables that are linked on the NXC website have 20B timings listed on them, even though neither article mentions that the 20B is being reinstated.
And, if the 20B is being reinstated, does this mean all 20/A/B/C are back to single deckers?
There is no 20B running still.
Buses on new timetable for 20/A/B/C seemingly interwork resulting most buses going under low bridge in Oban Road so looks like days of double deckers to Bedworth are numbered except possibly Sundays. This over bussing and failure to take the opportunity of co ordination with Stagecoach epitomises the sham that the West Midlands Bus Alliance is.
The timetable on website has changed with no service to Oban Road so I take back my comments about removal of double deckers from the 20!
Quote from: JoNi on July 16, 2020, 09:13:05 AM
Buses on new timetable for 20/A/B/C seemingly interwork resulting most buses going under low bridge in Oban Road so looks like days of double deckers to Bedworth are numbered except possibly Sundays. This over bussing and failure to take the opportunity of co ordination with Stagecoach epitomises the sham that the West Midlands Bus Alliance is.
Quote from: JoNi on July 16, 2020, 11:02:01 AM
The timetable on website has changed with no service to Oban Road so I take back my comments about removal of double deckers from the 20!
Yea, my comments were based on the (now removed) timetable, which I did think was a bit weird as there was no date printed on it.
Can I assume that as the majority of the new E buses are in revenue service from YW
the same can be said about the coventry allocation?.. presumably in use on the
warwick Leamington services ? Or maybe not the UNI under the circumstances... Ta
Quote from: windy miller on July 17, 2020, 10:03:43 PM
Can I assume that as the majority of the new E buses are in revenue service from YW
the same can be said about the coventry allocation?.. presumably in use on the
warwick Leamington services ? Or maybe not the UNI under the circumstances... Ta
It's been said for ages that they are for the 9/9A. So don't think this is to do with any current circumstances.
It was never said they are for the 11/12X.
Quote from: windy miller on July 17, 2020, 10:03:43 PM
Can I assume that as the majority of the new E buses are in revenue service from YW
the same can be said about the coventry allocation?.. presumably in use on the
warwick Leamington services ? Or maybe not the UNI under the circumstances... Ta
They've only had three delivered so far.
Thanks for the info guys I have no idea where the No 9 service runs but I imagine
they will run via pool meadow.
Quote from: windy miller on July 19, 2020, 04:56:34 PM
Thanks for the info guys I have no idea where the No 9 service runs but I imagine
they will run via pool meadow.
Yes it does run via Pool Meadow - towards Green Lane / Wainbody stop J and towards University Hospital stop P
There is a map on the route here:
=&tab=]https://nxbus.co.uk/routes/coventry/C009/?timetable[day]=&tab= (https://nxbus.co.uk/routes/coventry/C009/?timetable%5Bday)
From my own notes Route 9 towards Leasowes Avenue runs along these roads:
Walsgrave (University Hospital), Clifford Bridge Road, Ansty Road, Walsgrave Road, Sky Blue Way, Gosford Street, Cox Street, Fairfax Street, Priory Street, Pool Meadow Bus Station, Hales Street, Trinity Street, Ironmonger Row, Cross Cheaping, The Burges, Corporation Street, Queen Victoria Road, Greyfriars Road, Warwick Road, Eaton Road, Station Square, Coventry Railway Station, Station Square, Park Road, Manor Road, Stoney Road, Humphrey Burton's Road, Leamington Road, St Martin's Road, Hadleigh Road, Brentwood Avenue, Howes Lane, Green Lane, Kenpas Highway, Beanfield Avenue, Leasowes Avenue.
Route 9 towards University Hospital:
Leasowes Avenue, Wainbody Avenue South, Kenpas Highway, Bathway Road, Green Lane, Howes Lane, Brentwood Avenue, Hadleigh Road, St Martin's Road, Leamington Road, Humphrey Burton's Road, Stoney Road, Manor Road, Park Road, Station Square, Coventry Railway Station, Station Square, Eaton Road, Warwick Road, New Union Street, Little Park Street, Earl Street, Jordan Well, Cox Street, Fairfax Street, Priory Street, Pool Meadow Bus Station, Priory Street, Fairfax Street, Cox Street, Gosford Street, Sky Blue Way, Walsgrave Road, Ansty Road, Clifford Bridge Road, Walsgrave (University Hospital).
Out via Corporation St and return via New Union St etc - is that still correct?
The 9/9A goes via Corporation Street in both directions.
4405 appears to have been finished and is at Miller St
Is 7539 back in service at coventry please? thanks
Another merry go round of route numbers from 30th August see website for details!
https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/service-changes/coventry-timetable-route-changes-from-30th-august-2020
Oh lovely. If I'd only had this information 3 days ago!
I turned down a job because commute times from my home in Birmingham would be far too long. I actually would have had a proper second thought about it had I known they would have been better bus links in this revision.
Quote from: Gareth on August 13, 2020, 03:13:54 PM
Oh lovely. If I'd only had this information 3 days ago!
I turned down a job because commute times from my home in Birmingham would be far too long. I actually would have had a proper second thought about it had I known they would have been better bus links in this revision.
Looks like quite an upheaval - but as in most changes, it's just segments of cross-city services that have been broken up and cross-linked over to different areas of the city. It is rare to see completely new roads now being served by a bus - that weren't previously.
The linking of the Arena Park over to Binley/UHCW via Hen Lane, Holbrook Lane, City, Stoke Aldermoor etc as service 3 is a blast from the past - as the old 3/4 broadly speaking provided the same link, granted with a few changes over the years to the route/destination.
The 17/17A is a bit of a nod to history too, as there was previously a 17 Fenside - City - Walsgrave Hospital service (until April 1985) although the same number was used with the 27 as the Rail Station - City - Hospital/Wyken service.
Pity not to have a service '23' I guess - that has been going to Allesley Park since 1959 (albeit with a gap when it was the 2/3/3A).
Will the 1 remain?
Quote from: gc802002 on August 13, 2020, 04:42:02 PM
Will the 1 remain?
It is still with NXC or has gone over to another operator! Not sure yet, but the 539/580 aren't in the full list of NXC services either.
Hope the service revisions will prompt the replacement of the absurd "via Coventry" on bus blinds with something more informative and less insulting
Quote from: paulb1973 on August 13, 2020, 04:44:22 PM
It is still with NXC or has gone over to another operator! Not sure yet, but the 539/580 aren't in the full list of NXC services either.
Until all 3 services get the cancellation notice from the place that comes from, I'm sure we are going to see NXC still operate them. Maybe that "full" list of services wasn't listing tendered services for one reason or another.
Quote from: ellspurs on August 17, 2020, 04:09:52 PM
Until all 3 services get the cancellation notice from the place that comes from, I'm sure we are going to see NXC still operate them. Maybe that "full" list of services wasn't listing tendered services for one reason or another.
Thry have now added the 1 to the list but it's still missing the 539 and 580 though. I'd have thought the notices would have been submitted at the same time as all the other changes/noticee, so why does it take NX this amount of time to updare the list. I can understand the timetables not being available but not the whole list of services.
They're still listed on the main site's service list [ https://nxbus.co.uk/routes/coventry/?page=4 ].
Probably more an oversight than anything else, since the timetables weren't changing.
Re. these changes - will the 'new' 8/8A use Pool Meadow bus station - I think it does currently, but the new western arm of this service is now going to Allesley Park. And the 23 to that destination doesn't. Similarly the new combination of Fenside and UHCW [via Stoke Hill] the 17/17A - will that enter Pool Meadow? The current 4 to the Hospital does - but the current 3/3A does not.
The following is just a guess based on logic, mileage efficiency and personal preference...
3 Warks S P - HS4 Old Fire Station
8/8A Allesley Park - N Pool Meadow and also BS6 Burges
17/17A Fenside - TS2 Trinity St - but not stopping at BS6 Burges
17/17A Hospital - HS2 Hales St - approaching via Quadrant and Corporation St
14/14A/18/18A utilising the same Pool Meadow stands as the routes they'll replace
my fingers are crossed.
Quote from: Bus Man K2 on August 17, 2020, 04:35:48 PM
Thry have now added the 1 to the list but it's still missing the 539 and 580 though. I'd have thought the notices would have been submitted at the same time as all the other changes/noticee, so why does it take NX this amount of time to updare the list. I can understand the timetables not being available but not the whole list of services.
They've added them now along with the X1.
If you select on the route, the new timetable is there for Aug 30th. It still states on the changes page that "This page will be updated with timetables when they are available. "
EDIT: Only a handful of routes have got the timetables uploaded so far.
Quote from: JPC on August 17, 2020, 10:47:08 PM
The following is just a guess based on logic, mileage efficiency and personal preference...
3 Warks S P - HS4 Old Fire Station
8/8A Allesley Park - N Pool Meadow and also BS6 Burges
17/17A Fenside - TS2 Trinity St - but not stopping at BS6 Burges
17/17A Hospital - HS2 Hales St - approaching via Quadrant and Corporation St
14/14A/18/18A utilising the same Pool Meadow stands as the routes they'll replace
my fingers are crossed.
Looks like the new timetables have been added now:
https://nxbus.co.uk/routes/coventry/?page=3
Still not sure of the 14/14A route from Eastern Green though, as no route maps are showing. There was mention of NXC teaming up or partnering with the University of Warwick, which would suggest the 14/14A mirrors the 60/61 in the Tile Hill and Canley areas. The every 20-minute daytime frequency for Whoberley & Eastern Green etc seems a bit lightweight to me though.
I'd say your City Centre pick-up points for the above services are about right; the 8/8A is using Pool Meadow in both directions, as is the 17/17A. The 3 isn't, so presumably journeys to Binley/UHCW will drop-off/pick-up outside the Old Fire Station (if the 3 enters the city centre area from the Swanswell St/Pool area).
Quote from: paulb1973 on August 18, 2020, 04:38:48 PM
Looks like the new timetables have been added now:
https://nxbus.co.uk/routes/coventry/?page=3
Still not sure of the 14/14A route from Eastern Green though, as no route maps are showing. There was mention of NXC teaming up or partnering with the University of Warwick, which would suggest the 14/14A mirrors the 60/61 in the Tile Hill and Canley areas. The every 20-minute daytime frequency for Whoberley & Eastern Green etc seems a bit lightweight to me though.
I'd say your City Centre pick-up points for the above services are about right; the 8/8A is using Pool Meadow in both directions, as is the 17/17A. The 3 isn't, so presumably journeys to Binley/UHCW will drop-off/pick-up outside the Old Fire Station (if the 3 enters the city centre area from the Swanswell St/Pool area).
Service 14 will run along Banner Lane to Tile Hill South.
Quote from: Adam 404 on August 18, 2020, 05:03:49 PM
Service 14 will run along Banner Lane to Tile Hill South.
Does that mean that the 60 will still operate along the roads that it currently does?
Also arrond Eastern Green will the 14 operate along the current 8 route or the current 60 route?
Quote from: Bus Man K2 on August 18, 2020, 05:10:37 PM
Does that mean that the 60 will still operate along the roads that it currently does?
Also arrond Eastern Green will the 14 operate along the current 8 route or the current 60 route?
Service 8 and 8A in Eastern Green are being replaced by Service 14 & 14A. It will follow the route of service 8 to Hockley Lane.
Quote from: Adam 404 on August 18, 2020, 05:19:53 PM
Service 8 and 8A in Eastern Green are being replaced by Service 14 & 14A. It will follow the route of service 8 to Hockley Lane.
Thanks for that.
As the 14/A has a time point at Farcroft Ave I assume ti will run the other way around Sutton Ave, Farcroft Ave and Broad Lane from Hockley Lane?
I assume you don't know if the 60 will stll operate to the Uni?
Quote from: Bus Man K2 on August 18, 2020, 05:24:52 PM
Thanks for that.
As the 14/A has a time point at Farcroft Ave I assume ti will run the other way around Sutton Ave, Farcroft Ave and Broad Lane from Hockley Lane?
I assume you don't know if the 60 will stll operate to the Uni?
I guess the 14/14A could use Hockley Lane, Sutton Avenue, Farcroft Avenue in both directions - but the bottom bit of Hockley Lane/and a small section of Broad Lane wouldn't be served.
Or follow as now, with outbound journeys continuing down Hockley Lane/Broad Lane then over to Banner Lane - with the return inbound leg [after Banner Lane] looping around Broad Lane, Farcroft Ave, Sutton Ave back onto Hockley Lane.
Quote from: paulb1973 on August 18, 2020, 09:59:35 PM
I guess the 14/14A could use Hockley Lane, Sutton Avenue, Farcroft Avenue in both directions - but the bottom bit of Hockley Lane/and a small section of Broad Lane wouldn't be served.
This is the correct route.
Quote from: paulb1973 on August 18, 2020, 04:38:48 PM
Looks like the new timetables have been added now:
https://nxbus.co.uk/routes/coventry/?page=3
Still not sure of the 14/14A route from Eastern Green though, as no route maps are showing. There was mention of NXC teaming up or partnering with the University of Warwick, which would suggest the 14/14A mirrors the 60/61 in the Tile Hill and Canley areas. The every 20-minute daytime frequency for Whoberley & Eastern Green etc seems a bit lightweight to me though.
I'd say your City Centre pick-up points for the above services are about right; the 8/8A is using Pool Meadow in both directions, as is the 17/17A. The 3 isn't, so presumably journeys to Binley/UHCW will drop-off/pick-up outside the Old Fire Station (if the 3 enters the city centre area from the Swanswell St/Pool area).
I agree, 6 buses an hour on Charter Avenue seems like quite a lot but there must be a reason behind it so I hope it works.
Quote from: Adam 404 on August 18, 2020, 10:04:30 PM
This is the correct route.
Further on - I assume the 14/14A will use all of Charter Avenue, then Sir Henry Parkes Road, Kirby Corner Road etc (with an outbound and inbound clockwise loop around Cannon Park shops for the 14). And not use Mitchell Avenue or Westwood Way.
Quote from: paulb1973 on August 18, 2020, 10:59:17 PM
Further on - I assume the 14/14A will use all of Charter Avenue, then Sir Henry Parkes Road, Kirby Corner Road etc (with an outbound and inbound clockwise loop around Cannon Park shops for the 14). And not use Mitchell Avenue or Westwood Way.
Towards University of Warwick buses will use the full length of Charter Avenue, loop Cannon Park (14), then along Kirby Corner Road to University.
Towards Eastern Green & City Centre it will use Mitchell Avenue to join Charter Avenue.
Quote from: Adam 404 on August 18, 2020, 11:08:48 PM
Towards University of Warwick buses will use the full length of Charter Avenue, loop Cannon Park (14), then along Kirby Corner Road to University.
Towards Eastern Green & City Centre it will use Mitchell Avenue to join Charter Avenue.
Suppose once round the Cannon Park loop (14) is enough! Ah, so a slightly quicker way back.
I've just returned from a week away to see a 20A in the evening running 10 minutes late driving past the following 20 in Trinity Street that a crowd if passengers have just boarded. Can't prove it because its not on bustimes.org. Obviously the sloppy cultures haven't changed while I've been in Edinburgh where apps physically show where the approaching bus is. Interesting challenge how do you ensure the enhanced bus partnership will deal with poor customer experiences like this.
Quote from: JoNi on August 19, 2020, 10:07:57 PM
I've just returned from a week away to see a 20A in the evening running 10 minutes late driving past the following 20 in Trinity Street that a crowd if passengers have just boarded. Can't prove it because its not on bustimes.org. Obviously the sloppy cultures haven't changed while I've been in Edinburgh where apps physically show where the approaching bus is. Interesting challenge how do you ensure the enhanced bus partnership will deal with poor customer experiences like this.
What sloppy culture are you referring to? a bus running 10 minutes late? Do you know the reason?
Check your history Lothian have had far more sloppy practise with several million pounds going missing.
Quote from: Tony on August 19, 2020, 10:18:02 PM
What sloppy culture are you referring to? a bus running 10 minutes late? Do you know the reason?
Check your history Lothian have had far more sloppy practise with several million pounds going missing.
No I don't know why the bus was 10 minutes late and we both know it could have been for a multitude of reasons, the bottom line it was late during late evening infrequent service.
When I talk about sloppy operating practices I'm talking about customer experience and perception. Friends have commented services have deteriorated/returned to "normal" as lockdown has been eased.
Lothian aren't perfect at the moment with further disruption caused by tram extension works which really is a multi million pound waste of
money.
I nipped by Walthamstow on the way back from Scotland to take pictures of electric buses on route 212 to enable local leaders to appreciate the second class passenger experience Coventrys new electric buses are compared to these and Nottinghams Biogas buses which are all the same model.
Quote from: JoNi on August 20, 2020, 10:40:01 PM
No I don't know why the bus was 10 minutes late and we both know it could have been for a multitude of reasons, the bottom line it was late during late evening infrequent service.
When I talk about sloppy operating practices I'm talking about customer experience and perception. Friends have commented services have deteriorated/returned to "normal" as lockdown has been eased.
Lothian aren't perfect at the moment with further disruption caused by tram extension works which really is a multi million pound waste of
money.
I nipped by Walthamstow on the way back from Scotland to take pictures of electric buses on route 212 to enable local leaders to appreciate the second class passenger experience Coventrys new electric buses are compared to these and Nottinghams Biogas buses which are all the same model.
Why are Coventry's second c;lass. And why do we want to pollute the air like Nottingham?
Quote from: Tony on August 21, 2020, 06:08:43 AM
Why are Coventry's second c;lass. And why do we want to pollute the air like Nottingham?
Quite right to ask the question! Why is the Coventry passenger experience 2nd class? Please explain?
Quote from: Sandy Lane on August 21, 2020, 08:58:51 AM
Quite right to ask the question! Why is the Coventry passenger experience 2nd class? Please explain?
A friend replied "More Third World" when asked if National Express are second class. I took him to task saying stop talking about being world class when NX cant meet the standards I take for granted in other parts of the UK.
One simple example is boarding the bus. Other operators have notices such as Welcome Aboard, Come on In, Your Journey starts here and the other day on a branded bus Welcome to route 75 Great to have you on board. Contrast that with National Express "Give me £2.20 and if you assault me you will be prosecuted referring to the driver who is usually left bemused when I say good morning!
Quote from: JoNi on August 21, 2020, 03:55:42 PM
A friend replied "More Third World" when asked if National Express are second class. I took him to task saying stop talking about being world class when NX cant meet the standards I take for granted in other parts of the UK.
One simple example is boarding the bus. Other operators have notices such as Welcome Aboard, Come on In, Your Journey starts here and the other day on a branded bus Welcome to route 75 Great to have you on board. Contrast that with National Express "Give me £2.20 and if you assault me you will be prosecuted referring to the driver who is usually left bemused when I say good morning!
Your quote was comparing London, who have similar notices and when you are onboard don't provide wifi, usb charging, anything more than a basic seat?
Quote from: Tony on August 21, 2020, 04:21:46 PM
Your quote was comparing London, who have similar notices and when you are onboard don't provide wifi, usb charging, anything more than a basic seat?
And when you say wifi. NX's wifi is rubbish. I gather that London don't provide wifi, but at least if they did it would probably work better than NX' s. Most of the time NX's doesn't.
Quote from: Bus Man K2 on August 21, 2020, 04:30:20 PM
And when you say wifi. NX,' wifi is rubbish. I gather that London don't provide wifi, but at least if they did it would probably work better than NX' s. Most of the time NX's doesn't.
If they did it would be better?
That is like saying the operator who doesn't run any services would be cheaper?
Quote from: Tony on August 21, 2020, 04:31:54 PM
If they did it would be better?
That is like saying the operator who doesn't run any services would be cheaper?
It would actually work on all buses that it's supposed to work on.
Quote from: Tony on August 21, 2020, 04:21:46 PM
Your quote was comparing London, who have similar notices and when you are onboard don't provide wifi, usb charging, anything more than a basic seat?
With respect I was replying regarding second class customer experience.
The electric buses on the 212 have USB ports in the back of all seats including upstairs and like Nottingham have Estoban seats twice the depth of NXs utilitarian seats.
Of note on the 20C service - it is extended to University Hospital according to the new map and the timetable, but the service changes webpage doesn't mention this, it takes a nice appropriate route avoiding the 20A and 703 as much as possible.
On the opposite half hour to the 20C is a short 20 to/from Old Church Rd which I think was possibly planned to extend as a replacement for the 703 service (a tender variation or alternative option?) but the bid was fruitless?.
In all honesty a better value for money option for the 703 could be an extension of certain 21 journeys from Wood End to University Hospital, as this extension is only about 15 minutes each way a more frequent half hourly service could be provided.
Quote from: Tony on August 21, 2020, 06:08:43 AM
Why are Coventry's second c;lass. And why do we want to pollute the air like Nottingham?
The buses are "second class" in many ways not least the anthracite ambiance compared with bright interiors and more comfy seats as mentioned elsewhere. In the case of Nottingham the next stop screens show the next three stops which are capable of showing information films. A special one was done to inform passengers what NCT were doing to tackle the Covid crisis and expections from passengers which has undoubtedly led to the high levels of face mask compliance I have witnessed.
Quote from: JoNi on August 21, 2020, 04:57:41 PM
The buses are "second class" in many ways not least the anthracite ambiance compared with bright interiors and more comfy seats as mentioned elsewhere. In the case of Nottingham the next stop screens show the next three stops which are capable of showing information films. A special one was done to inform passengers what NCT were doing to tackle the Covid crisis and expections from passengers which has undoubtedly led to the high levels of face mask compliance I have witnessed.
NCT branding is horrible. NX do a cracking job considering they run 80% of services in the West Midlands whereas NCT do roughly half. I think the new buses are a real improvement.
Will the 3/3A be debranded or have branding changes when the service changes come into place on the 30th
Quote from: BH2004 on August 26, 2020, 05:27:11 PM
Will the 3/3A be debranded or have branding changes when the service changes come into place on the 30th
They've already been debranded
Does anyone have any idea as to what the 17/17A will be allocated. The Fenside and Cheylesmore are normally not too busy but the route to hospital can get very busy but then at the same time I'm not sure if the 3 can use the enviro200s as the bit to the Shopping Park is also normally busy whereas the section to Arena Park isn't so.
Quote from: bususer28 on August 26, 2020, 05:43:30 PM
Does anyone have any idea as to what the 17/17A will be allocated. The Fenside and Cheylesmore are normally not too busy but the route to hospital can get very busy but then at the same time I'm not sure if the 3 can use the enviro200s as the bit to the Shopping Park is also normally busy whereas the section to Arena Park isn't so.
The 17/17A will most likely have B7RLE as per pre-covid service 4, bearing in mind Fenside will remain reduced to a 15 minute service.
The new 14 and 18 are seemingly daytime interworking at Pool Meadow and also remain slightly less frequent than pre-covid so probably will have deckers.
The introduction of 10 electric buses should in theory mean there is 10 buses surplus to requirement and Enviro200s would be most appropriate choice to put aside in these current times - although two or so are now needed for the 585.
Quote from: bususer28 on August 21, 2020, 07:50:50 PM
NCT branding is horrible. NX do a cracking job considering they run 80% of services in the West Midlands whereas NCT do roughly half. I think the new buses are a real improvement.
Sorrow to hear you find NCT branding unpleasant.
Heres a timely short film aimed at their younger clientel featuring a generic liveried bus.
https://youtu.be/X9L91qgVeqc
Is 4677 in still in service
Quote from: BH2004 on August 27, 2020, 09:47:47 PM
Is 4677 in still in service
Damaged by fire in January 2020 and it seems, stored inside CV garage ever since.
Quote from: paulb1973 on August 27, 2020, 09:56:40 PM
Damaged by fire in January 2020 and it seems, stored inside CV garage ever since.
Oh ok, do you think it will get repaired
Quote from: BH2004 on August 27, 2020, 10:39:55 PM
Oh ok, do you think it will get repaired
Going by its age, it looks unlikely - but it hasn't been dumped at Miller Street!
With NXC running the 585 from this week how long is it likely to take to get the bus stops to show RTI?
E024, E025 & E026 first three into service on the 9 this morning
The revised service 3 (Arena Park - City - Binley/UHCW) is that looping around Trinity St, Ironmonger Row, Burges, Hales St in both directions? I assume it is. So on journeys to Binley, the 3 uses White St, Hales St, looping past Primark then waits outside the Transport Museum as per the 23 to Binley previously?
I might grab a picture of those Electric buses at Brentwood Ave in Finham 'out in the sticks' - 34 mins past the hour to UHCW/46 past the hour to Leasowes Ave, according to the timetable.
Quote from: paulb1973 on August 30, 2020, 11:11:18 AM
The revised service 3 (Arena Park - City - Binley/UHCW) is that looping around Trinity St, Ironmonger Row, Burges, Hales St in both directions? I assume it is. So on journeys to Binley, the 3 uses White St, Hales St, looping past Primark then waits outside the Transport Museum as per the 23 to Binley previously?
Yes, sounds ridiculous considering the short walking distance between the Old Fire Station and Transport Museum stops but for the passengers sake I am hoping it additionally stops at Primark on a alighting only basis, not to mention creating a convenient change point for the rail station routes.
Sorry if my question is in the wrong thread. Haven't been for a while but are there still delays to buses on The Burges when cars park opposite the stops, or have the council enforced restrictions and social distancing measures to stop the parking etc ?
Thanks all.
Quote from: TT90 on September 02, 2020, 08:40:13 AM
Sorry if my question is in the wrong thread. Haven't been for a while but are there still delays to buses on The Burges when cars park opposite the stops, or have the council enforced restrictions and social distancing measures to stop the parking etc ?
Thanks all.
During the daytime there is a temporary bus gate in Hales Street at Bishops Street manned by staff who move barriers aside to allow access for buses, taxis and traders only. Plant pots have also been placed along the kerb in Ironmonger Row and Cross Cheaping. Buses are still sometimes unable to layover in the Burges in the evening due to cars parked on the offside of the road.
Thanks JONi, You'd think the council would put a permanent parking restriction on The Burges at some point to deter parking and it getting blocked up etc.
Congestion charging was the idea by the politicians but they realised they would lose votes so it was dropped.
Quote from: Sandy Lane on September 03, 2020, 11:09:11 AM
Congestion charging was the idea by the politicians but they realised they would lose votes so it was dropped.
Call me old (my friend's do) but I remember when budget had a regular rise in fuel duty.
Quote from: JoNi on September 03, 2020, 03:08:24 PM
Call me old (my friend's do) but I remember when budget had a regular rise in fuel duty.
But they realised they would lose votes with this as well, so guess what, it was dropped :)
And until the pollution levels are reduced people' health will be affected.
Ball Hill is the classic case. Well done to NXC for the electric buses on the 9. Trouble is all the other traffic is puking out killer fumes. Congestion charging could have sorted it. A sad mistake by the politicians in my view.
Just noticed service changes for the 539/580/585 on site.
https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/service-changes/service-changes-from-2nd-november-2020
539 route changed in Kenilworth, possibly to avoid sitting at the stop sign opposite the castle.
580 minor timetable change
585 series renumbered 85/A/B and rerouted off-peak via Elliots Field Retail Park Tesco, which has a bus shelter there already.
Are these services working well for NXC?
Quote from: ellspurs on October 23, 2020, 06:58:21 PM
Just noticed service changes for the 539/580/585 on site.
https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/service-changes/service-changes-from-2nd-november-2020
539 route changed in Kenilworth, possibly to avoid sitting at the stop sign opposite the castle.
580 minor timetable change
585 series renumbered 85/A/B and rerouted off-peak via Elliots Field Retail Park Tesco, which has a bus shelter there already.
Are these services working well for NXC?
I was thinking the exact same thing. Interesting as to why they haven't renumbered the 539 and 580.
Quote from: bususer28 on October 23, 2020, 07:57:46 PM
I was thinking the exact same thing. Interesting as to why they haven't renumbered the 539 and 580.
Probably just renumbering the 585 because most journeys also have a suffix and those long route numbers don't fit too well on side/rear displays of a E200. Of course a '585S' will remain but isn't that a shiny double decker?
Quote from: JPC on October 23, 2020, 08:54:56 PM
Probably just renumbering the 585 because most journeys also have a suffix and those long route numbers don't fit too well on side/rear displays of a E200. Of course a '585S' will remain but isn't that a shiny double decker?
Looks a bit tidier just as 85, 85A etc - I suppose there's no real need for them to be in the 5xx series, most of Coventry's services are between 1-100. I do recall Midland Red (South, later-on) running lots of 5/6/7xx services though.
Tbf I don't see why they didn't put the 585A/B as a 9A/B (as part of the 9 corridor) and have them replace one of the 2 9A trips each hour from Green Lane, similar to how the WN 10 has the xx30 off wolves alternating as a 10A or 10B
similar to the 539/580 - I don't get why they don't simplify both routes so they both go via the same route instead of having two different variations using the same route numbering.
Quote from: the trainbasher on October 23, 2020, 10:07:42 PM
Tbf I don't see why they didn't put the 585A/B as a 9A/B (as part of the 9 corridor) and have them replace one of the 2 9A trips each hour from Green Lane, similar to how the WN 10 has the xx30 off wolves alternating as a 10A or 10B.
I see the 85 will still not serve Coventry station.
Quote from: Sandy Lane on October 24, 2020, 11:59:05 AM
I see the 85 will still not serve Coventry station.
It's worth pointing out that the 585 stopped serving Coventry Station at the point when NXC took over.
Going back to why the 585 is being renumbered but the 539 and 580 aren't, the 585 was mainly commercial with Travel De Courcey whereas the 539 and 580 are tendered services (i.e run on contract to Warwickshire County Council with funding). I don't know if NXC run the 585 commercially or not, but if they do then they could decide on route numbering without having to get Warwickshire CC approval.
Quote from: the trainbasher on October 23, 2020, 10:07:42 PM
Tbf I don't see why they didn't put the 585A/B as a 9A/B (as part of the 9 corridor) and have them replace one of the 2 9A trips each hour from Green Lane, similar to how the WN 10 has the xx30 off wolves alternating as a 10A or 10B
similar to the 539/580 - I don't get why they don't simplify both routes so they both go via the same route instead of having two different variations using the same route numbering.
It's a decent idea but the only issue is that there aren't enough double deckers to run it- the 9/9A would have to use E200s- and even if there were enough dds, I doubt the electrics have enough charge to run all the way to Rugby a couple of times a day.
Quote from: bususer28 on October 24, 2020, 07:47:25 PM
I doubt the electrics have enough charge to run all the way to Rugby a couple of times a day.
Why wouldn't they have enough charge?
Quote from: bususer28 on October 24, 2020, 07:47:25 PM
It's a decent idea but the only issue is that there aren't enough double deckers to run it- the 9/9A would have to use E200s- and even if there were enough dds, I doubt the electrics have enough charge to run all the way to Rugby a couple of times a day.
From Tony's post in the Electric Buses thread:
Quote from: Tony on February 28, 2020, 06:19:08 PM
When E002 arrived I spoke to the delivery driver who had brought it up from Heathrow, which presumably explains the London registrations. He set off with 93% charge, drove 105 miles to BC and arrived with 53% charge
105 miles for 40% of the charge. Given that is a high estimate due to the nature of the driving, I'm sure they'd be able to do a couple of round trips to Rugby.
The lack of available buses could be an issue, but given that there's usually an electric bus running on the 8 or 11 each day, there's the possibility of allocating one onto there.
Probably best to keep them apart at the moment though, as I wouldn't have thought that the route needed deckers at the moment.
Noticed the some of Coventry E200's and b7rle have gained new ticket branding , question to
@Tony will the West Midlands ones gain similar branding
Quote from: ellspurs on October 24, 2020, 09:00:03 PM
From Tony's post in the Electric Buses thread:
105 miles for 40% of the charge. Given that is a high estimate due to the nature of the driving, I'm sure they'd be able to do a couple of round trips to Rugby.
The lack of available buses could be an issue, but given that there's usually an electric bus running on the 8 or 11 each day, there's the possibility of allocating one onto there.
Probably best to keep them apart at the moment though, as I wouldn't have thought that the route needed deckers at the moment.
Interesting but your right, I doubt the buses are that busy that they need dds.
Quote from: bususer28 on October 25, 2020, 05:33:11 PM
Interesting but your right, I doubt the buses are that busy that they need dds.
The last thing NX would want to do is waste double decks on such a route and the move of the 85 to Pool Meadow stand F you could say corresponds with that - it will mitigate crowds of passengers waiting at the 8/9 stand from getting on.
In an ideal world we could have seen the 85 combined/merged with service 1 to offer a through service to Cov Rail Station, granted this would mean the Mount Pleasant area of Walsgrave, which has recently gained the 20C, lose service 1 - but of course the 85 timetable is too complex for any chance of that.
I suppose Stagecoach will follow suit with the renumbering as it will sit nicely with their 86 though it is a bit ridiculous where both two-hourly services are departing Cov at exactly the same time on a Sunday.
Somebody made the decision to change route 585 etc. To 85 etc.
I'm sure that person would have thought twice if they had to pay the cost of replacing all the bus stop flags in Ansty Road, better still made to go out and change them. Destinations also have to be reprogrammed.
NX should be congratulated for already having a timetable available in Pool Meadow when I asked, although it does not have the Sunday service provided by Stagecoach which says more about NX's insular attitudes.
The whim of changing route numbers is a classic case of wasting money in straightened times.
Purely changing routes numbers also causes confusion as in these App based times where stops show both route numbers once the new timetable is loaded. Is Stagecoach going to change their number, why should they.
As for utilisation of the double decker, it only needs one driver (in times of a driver shortage) compared with two for single deckers which run dead to and from Rugby. There are plenty of near empty double deckers on 12x. The art of interworking buses between routes has been lost in a culture of route rather than network based vehicle allocation.
Sorry, I don't understand. Are they putting double deckers on the 85. Kind regards.
Quote from: J GL on October 27, 2020, 09:48:42 AM
Sorry, I don't understand. Are they putting double deckers on the 85. Kind regards.
I dont know if NX are putting double deckers on 85 "school workings" like De Courcey did.
I was making the point that previously in the mystic east (WMPTE slang for Coventry) vehicles used on school workings interworked between routes to provide appropriate capacity when required.
The capability of doing this obviously still exists as NX buses in Coventry successfully interworked between routes on New Years Day 2020 to provide clockface headways.
De Courcey's use of lower case suffex letters (e.g. 585b) was good as they were easy to read.
Ok, I understand you. I saw a double decker on the 585 in Rugby a few weeks back presumably on the school run (I didn't catch the blind). It's a shame that they are renumbering the 585 to 85 as it is a very old route number but it makes logical sense, not that I agree with it.
The city centre stop for 3 to Binley is moving from Hales St to 'Ironmonger Row' (Burges) on Sunday
https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/service-changes/enter-title-2020-11-02
What is the logic for this? Is this making the route a bit longer? Maybe there is good reason but I cant see it at the mo?
Quote from: Sandy Lane on November 13, 2020, 09:52:07 AM
The city centre stop for 3 to Binley is moving from Hales St to 'Ironmonger Row' (Burges) on Sunday
https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/service-changes/enter-title-2020-11-02
What is the logic for this? Is this making the route a bit longer? Maybe there is good reason but I cant see it at the mo?
The route has to loop Trinity Street / The Burges anyway. This change in stand will reduce the walk to the centre of the City. Passengers for Pool Meadow can still alight / board at Sprinkles.
Quote from: Adam 404 on November 13, 2020, 01:25:24 PM
The route has to loop Trinity Street / The Burges anyway. This change in stand will reduce the walk to the centre of the City. Passengers for Pool Meadow can still alight / board at Sprinkles.
I wonder if TfWM will put up a shelter on Ironmonger Row, as its more than just a 'set down' stop. I presume Hales St has become too busy and congested. There was a perfectly good shelter on the old set-up (the centre island) - but the council saw fit to build that rather barren Ironmonger Square instead.
Quote from: paulb1973 on November 13, 2020, 03:26:27 PM
I wonder if TfWM will put up a shelter on Ironmonger Row, as its more than just a 'set down' stop. I presume Hales St has become too busy and congested. There was a perfectly good shelter on the old set-up (the centre island) - but the council saw fit to build that rather barren Ironmonger Square instead.
NX are slightly incorrect in saying Ironmonger Row as BS6 is the first stop on Cross Cheaping/The Burges which at least has some shop frontage canopy for waiting passengers despite the obnoxious location and BS5 will get more busy with it's increased swathe of routes for the Allesley & Coundon directions - agreed Ironmonger Row TS5 is much in need of a cantilever shelter.
The Burges used to have four stops until the road was narrowed at the top.
BS5 didn't have a shelter because it was a set down stop.
It allowed passengers especially the elderly of ALL west/northbound buses (not just 9/A) to access Broadgate without having to walk up hill. Some drivers who understood customer service continued to set people down there after August 2019 service changes especially those in wheelchairs. Whoever compiled the public survey prior to those changes clearly didn't realise the inconvenience that change would cause or get/want feedback passengers or front line staff, who were lost for words when I wondered if those responsible valued the real world experiences of colleagues.
A request to TfWM by users for a shelter at BS5 was declined because the pavement is allegedly too narrow.
The Stoke Aldermoor bus always went from Pool Meadow until removal when numbered 16 presumably to save NX departure charges which is the root cause of the problem with the 3.
Other metropolitan areas used the Covid pandemic as an opportunity to run services more efficiently with tickets interavailable between operators which could occur in West Midlands if Operators were prepared to tango for their and bus users mutual benefit!
Isn't that the point of having an alliance to achieve more than one party can alone!
Quote from: JoNi on November 14, 2020, 03:54:51 PM
The Burges used to have four stops until the road was narrowed at the top.
BS5 didn't have a shelter because it was a set down stop.
It allowed passengers especially the elderly of ALL west/northbound buses (not just 9/A) to access Broadgate without having to walk up hill. Some drivers who understood customer service continued to set people down there after August 2019 service changes especially those in wheelchairs. Whoever compiled the public survey prior to those changes clearly didn't realise the inconvenience that change would cause or get/want feedback passengers or front line staff, who were lost for words when I wondered if those responsible valued the real world experiences of colleagues.
A request to TfWM by users for a shelter at BS5 was declined because the pavement is allegedly too narrow.
The Stoke Aldermoor bus always went from Pool Meadow until removal when numbered 16 presumably to save NX departure charges which is the root cause of the problem with the 3.
Other metropolitan areas used the Covid pandemic as an opportunity to run services more efficiently with tickets interavailable between operators which could occur in West Midlands if Operators were prepared to tango for their and bus users mutual benefit!
Isn't that the point of having an alliance to achieve more than one party can alone!
Ever since they tried to close off the junction of Hales Street/Trinity Street, the whole road system in Coventry City Centre has been a complete and utter mess, especially in that part of the city.
Quote from: JPC on November 13, 2020, 11:30:57 PM
NX are slightly incorrect in saying Ironmonger Row as BS6 is the first stop on Cross Cheaping/The Burges which at least has some shop frontage canopy for waiting passengers despite the obnoxious location and BS5 will get more busy with it's increased swathe of routes for the Allesley & Coundon directions - agreed Ironmonger Row TS5 is much in need of a cantilever shelter.
Yes, you are correct, BS6 is actually the Cross Cheaping/Burges stop - and it is a grim location!
I'm sure there used to be 6 cantilever shelters in that area; Adshel 0602 0133-0137/0145 (old stops C2 to C7). Stop C3 being removed after being damaged somehow and a pole inserted instead. I assume all the rest went when the area was 'refurbished'. This using older pics of the Burges area.
I was wondering as to whether there is a specific reason why the numbers on the dot matrix displays on Coventry buses are on the left rather than right. I personally find it quite strange but that is probably just me!
I saw a 20 leaving Nuneaton this afternoon (around 1420) which looked like it has an issue with its display.
The "20 Coventry" was in little writing across the top row of the matrix display, kinda like the via writing on this vehicle (http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/5001-9959/6748.html).
Quote from: ellspurs on January 22, 2021, 05:23:24 PM
I saw a 20 leaving Nuneaton this afternoon (around 1420) which looked like it has an issue with its display.
The "20 Coventry" was in little writing across the top row of the matrix display, kinda like the via writing on this vehicle (http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/5001-9959/6748.html).
It will happen if a new display is installed and is on the setting for the side display.
Quote from: ellspurs on January 22, 2021, 05:23:24 PM
I saw a 20 leaving Nuneaton this afternoon (around 1420) which looked like it has an issue with its display.
The "20 Coventry" was in little writing across the top row of the matrix display, kinda like the via writing on this vehicle (http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/5001-9959/6748.html).
That'll probably be 4770.
This Bus tracker option is very useful but is it possible to track coaches?
Or Maybe 768 ? thanks
Quote from: windy miller on May 03, 2021, 02:40:12 AM
This Bus tracker option is very useful but is it possible to track coaches?
Or Maybe 768 ? thanks
National Express coaches track on bustimes, but 768 and the other NEAT/private hire buses don't.
Thanks for the info
I appear to have lost the link for the service bus tracker now! can someone print it out for me please? thanks
Quote from: windy miller on May 04, 2021, 02:24:00 AM
Thanks for the info
I appear to have lost the link for the service bus tracker now! can someone print it out for me please? thanks
https://bustimes.org/
On the 20B service the journeys heading for Bayton Road will extend further to/from Bedworth (Johnson Rd) from next Monday 17th May.
Timetable is : Here (https://nxbus.co.uk/media/5599/cv-20b.pdf)
I suppose the current Bayton Rd journeys are now struggling to keep on time so this is probably a solution and makes use of the spare bus from the reduced X30 service (the duplicate vehicle for the 1610 journey seems to have been dropped since yesterday).
Quote from: JPC on May 11, 2021, 09:08:35 PM
On the 20B service the journeys heading for Bayton Road will extend further to/from Bedworth (Johnson Rd) from next Monday 17th May.
Timetable is : Here (https://nxbus.co.uk/media/5599/cv-20b.pdf)
I suppose the current Bayton Rd journeys are now struggling to keep on time so this is probably a solution and makes use of the spare bus from the reduced X30 service (the duplicate vehicle for the 1610 journey seems to have been dropped since yesterday).
It seems to be possible to travel from the Bedworth/Bayton Rd areas (on some inbound journeys) to Wilsons Lane etc, on the way to Coventry city-centre. But outbound the 20B either runs to Longford Novotel or Bedworth via Bayton Rd.
Quote from: paulb1973 on May 12, 2021, 01:57:31 PM
It seems to be possible to travel from the Bedworth/Bayton Rd areas (on some inbound journeys) to Wilsons Lane etc, on the way to Coventry city-centre. But outbound the 20B either runs to Longford Novotel or Bedworth via Bayton Rd.
I think that is just a quirk of the timetable, as the Novotel isn't a usual timing point for the longer route, so isn't included on the timetable through to Bedworth.
Man if that route was running 20 years ago, I wouldn't have had to walk down to Bedworth Road from Woodshires Road to get the bus to work in the morning.
Quote from: ellspurs on May 12, 2021, 03:16:02 PM
I think that is just a quirk of the timetable, as the Novotel isn't a usual timing point for the longer route, so isn't included on the timetable through to Bedworth.
Man if that route was running 20 years ago, I wouldn't have had to walk down to Bedworth Road from Woodshires Road to get the bus to work in the morning.
Ah, so the longer journeys might well traverse the Woodshires Rd/Wilsons Lane etc area in both directions - I did wonder, otherwise it would have meant a different route on inbound/outbound legs!
4665 back on the road today after having 123 days off needing a replacement engine which is now fitted
HI guys Can anyone help me out with a bus service number to get me from
pool meadow/rail station to the tool hire shop on Nod Rise which is off broad lane I have looked on google maps but I can't read the bus service numbers!
Many thanks for your help windy
Quote from: windy miller on August 05, 2021, 05:53:57 PM
HI guys Can anyone help me out with a bus service number to get me from
pool meadow/rail station to the tool hire shop on Nod Rise which is off broad lane I have looked on google maps but I can't read the bus service numbers!
Many thanks for your help windy
It used to be DeCourcey's 360A/C route (on Google Maps) but it looks like no other route has taken on that road. Closest stop is the 14 stop on Broad Lane/Beech Tree Avenue.
thanks for the info ...can I get that service from the city centre?
Quote from: windy miller on August 05, 2021, 06:28:28 PM
thanks for the info ...can I get that service from the city centre?
The 14 starts/terminates at Pool Meadow, although it doesn't serve the rail station. You'll want Stand T, which is one of the stands outside of the main building, next to the slip road off the ring road and the coach park.
Quote from: windy miller on August 05, 2021, 06:28:28 PM
thanks for the info ...can I get that service from the city centre?
You could walk from Coventry Rail Station to the bus stop CR4 on Croft Rd (by Starley Rd) easily in about 10 mins to pick up the service 14/14A or ...
If I am correct in assuming you're coming from Birmingham it might be simpler and possibly quicker to get off the train at Tile Hill station (if it stops there) and pick up a City Centre bound service 14 closeby, check the timetable though if coming on a Saturday as that end of the route is less frequent.
Yes it had occurred to me that the tile hill station option may prove to be nearer but as I am obviously unfamiliar with the local bus options or
even in which direction I should best stick to the pool meadow dep
Hopefully I will only need to use the service once thanks for the advice
An electric bus had "an incident" with a tree and now a large kafuffle has ensued:
https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/local-news/residents-campaign-save-decades-old-21641725
At the present time there is no need for double-decks on that end of the 9 and 9A so it wouldn't surprise me if a 'downgrade' of service occurs soon, perhaps whenever single deck electrics arrive, I suppose a downgrade has already happened as reliability gone down the pan since one daytime bus was removed from 9/9A last month, a merger with the 19 service could be on the cards, not to mention the recently improved hourly 24/25 also duplicates the 9 down the leafy Leamington Rd to Brentwood Avenue - overall there's far too many buses around here.
Travel Centre has large notices on doors stating it is closing on 29th October 2021.
Quote from: JoNi on September 27, 2021, 10:54:24 AM
Travel Centre has large notices on doors stating it is closing on 29th October 2021.
Same for other travel shops in the midlsnds
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on September 27, 2021, 06:33:12 PM
I suspect this happening for other travel shops in the midlands i know walsall has a poster up
Coventry Travel Centre was closed this morning. It has a notice on the door stating from 20th September shop will close from 12- 1 due to staff sickness. Some sought assistance from TfWM "here to help" person in purple at a purple lectern. More sought assistance from helpful young lad in hi vis jacket.
4464 and 4576 working the 6 today - will these receive the retrofit blue front like 2141 has received?
Quote from: Wumpty on October 07, 2021, 09:20:37 AM
4464 and 4576 working the 6 today - will these receive the retrofit blue front like 2141 has received?
They got the blue the same day as 2141/2.
Quote from: Lukeeee2018 on October 07, 2021, 04:17:38 PM
They got the blue the same day as 2141/2.
These are fantastic - I'm glad some thought went into this instead of just slapping a decal over the old names.
Quote from: Wumpty on October 08, 2021, 08:44:52 AM
These are fantastic - I'm glad some thought went into this instead of just slapping a decal over the old names.
Why not just brand them as a red route, you only need another bus to make five required for the 16 to Keresley! I'm sure there are Keresley residents who would happy to have red buses back after all most of the bus stops on the route are red!
Quote from: JoNi on October 08, 2021, 06:35:38 PM
Why not just brand them as a red route, you only need another bus to make five required for the 16 to Keresley! I'm sure there are Keresley residents who would happy to have red buses back after all most of the bus stops on the route are red!
Now I like this - if the cover buses were a longer term fixture then no reason why this wouldn't work.
You're in the wrong job
@JoNi !!!
Quote from: Wumpty on October 11, 2021, 08:30:17 AM
Now I like this - if the cover buses were a longer term fixture then no reason why this wouldn't work.
You're in the wrong job @JoNi !!!
There's no route that requires 2 singles and two doubles though
Quote from: Tony on October 11, 2021, 09:06:21 AM
There's no route that requires 2 singles and two doubles though
Operationally not, though I do like the cross-brand concept of having crimsons with the sky blue flashes. It works and is a marketeer's dream!
I just checked Regional Vehicle Finder which says there are two singles and four doubles on the 16 at the moment on a route that runs every 10 minutes that goes round in 50 minutes leading to my impression it required five buses!
Single deckers seem to appear regularly these days to my native Keresley on the 16, not even as the last buses out when no other serviceable vehicles are available.
Quote from: JoNi on October 11, 2021, 12:24:34 PM
I just checked Regional Vehicle Finder which says there are two singles and four doubles on the 16 at the moment on a route that runs every 10 minutes that goes round in 50 minutes leading to my impression it required five buses!
Single deckers seem to appear regularly these days to my native Keresley on the 16, not even as the last buses out when no other serviceable vehicles are available.
4831 was probably the phantom sixth bus, it's tracking data was 'stuck' on 16 for a number of days regardless of what service it was actually doing (but it is now rectified this evening).
....and is 4453 not red enough to be a fifth bus for your 'red route'? ;)
Quote from: JPC on October 11, 2021, 07:42:22 PM
4831 was probably the phantom sixth bus, it's tracking data was 'stuck' on 16 for a number of days regardless of what service it was actually doing (but it is now rectified this evening).
....and is 4453 not red enough to be a fifth bus for your 'red route'? ;)
See now I like that too - "The Phantom Line" - just in time for Halloween!!!!
Quote from: JPC on October 11, 2021, 07:42:22 PM
4831 was probably the phantom sixth bus, it's tracking data was 'stuck' on 16 for a number of days regardless of what service it was actually doing (but it is now rectified this evening).
....and is 4453 not red enough to be a fifth bus for your 'red route'? ;)
Good point about 4453, it's good to see heritage liveries live on in the West Midlands when good ones elsewhere get repainted after a year.
Travel Centre closed again this morning due to staff sickness.
The TfWM concept having a here to help person at podium has also lost momentum, as one would say in management speak.
There's a few amended (or apparently "temporary") timetables from 21st November, some are now on TravelineSW website (http://www.travelinesw.com/)
Service 1 moves to xx:32 past every hour, what is the current the service 2 departure time, so I have a feeling service 2 (the timetable is not uploaded yet) will drop to hourly - which at least will fix the imbalanced service in Earlsdon.
Service 19 is re-routed via Kenilworth Road so will no longer stop on Leamington Rd and Kenpas Highway - Unsurprisingly ;).
Services 3, 8/9, 12X, 13, 16, 21 and 85 are the rest of the amended timetables with a minor route change mooted on service 8 presumably in the Potters Green/Walsgrave area.
School service 59 (Eastern Green-West Coventry Academy) will no longer operate.
Quote from: JPC on November 04, 2021, 05:46:08 PM
There's a few amended (or apparently "temporary") timetables from 21st November, some are now on TravelineSW website (http://www.travelinesw.com/)
Service 1 moves to xx:32 past every hour, what is the current the service 2 departure time, so I have a feeling service 2 (the timetable is not uploaded yet) will drop to hourly - which at least will fix the imbalanced service in Earlsdon.
Service 19 is re-routed via Kenilworth Road so will no longer stop on Leamington Rd and Kenpas Highway - Unsurprisingly ;).
Services 3, 8/9, 12X, 13, 16, 21 and 85 are the rest of the amended timetables with a minor route change mooted on service 8 presumably in the Potters Green/Walsgrave area.
School service 59 (Eastern Green-West Coventry Academy) will no longer operate.
Will service 19 still do a loop around the back of the Rail Station - it'll still be possible except it will have to route back towards Kenilworth Rd (instead of going down Leamington Rd).
I haven't visited the Travel Shop in Pool Meadow for a while - I believe it's closed now. But is it possible to obtain paper timetables anywhere? I know with smart phones etc that's old hat now, but still nice to have a paper copy.
Quote from: paulb1973 on November 04, 2021, 10:11:53 PM
Will service 19 still do a loop around the back of the Rail Station - it'll still be possible except it will have to route back towards Kenilworth Rd (instead of going down Leamington Rd).
Yes, there's also some variation for the inbound 19 route around the rail station too, avoiding congestion on the ring road slip I suppose:
Outbound : J6 > Station Interchange > Warwick Rd > Michaelmas Rd > Stoney Rd etc.
Inbound : Stoney Rd > Manor Rd > Park Rd > J5 > New Union Street etc. - (assume a permanent stop to be conveniently sited close to Manor Rd/Park Rd junction).
So with just 4 days notice we now have service changes on the NXC website (although I have seen some A4 posters with very small text on some buses since last Friday)
https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/service-updates/timetable-changes-from-monday-22nd-november-2021
The 2 and 19 recently had vehicle seating capacity reduced in half and now virtually half of journeys are deleted, very poor indeed.
I still cannot envisage the 1 beyond Canley Station being used much, Chapelfields and Coundon has a myraid of regular more direct routes to the City Centre, the link to Earlsdon is now it's only purpose, I feel the 1 should of been cut to off-peak hours only in order to retain a half-hourly service on service 2 at peak times.
TfWM have hinted these changes are 'temporary', but then again nothing is permanent nowadays. ;)
Quote from: JPC on November 17, 2021, 10:55:34 PM
So with just 4 days notice we now have service changes on the NXC website (although I have seen some A4 posters with very small text on some buses since last Friday)
https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/service-updates/timetable-changes-from-monday-22nd-november-2021
The 2 and 19 recently had vehicle seating capacity reduced in half and now virtually half of journeys are deleted, very poor indeed.
I still cannot envisage the 1 beyond Canley Station being used much, Chapelfields and Coundon has a myraid of regular more direct routes to the City Centre, the link to Earlsdon is now it's only purpose, I feel the 1 should of been cut to off-peak hours only in order to retain a half-hourly service on service 2 at peak times.
TfWM have hinted these changes are 'temporary', but then again nothing is permanent nowadays. ;)
Some subtle cuts in the frequency of services 3, 16 and 21 it would appear too. Is that based on demand or a shortfall in the number of drivers.
It appears that 4837 did the 20B earlier this afternoon which was very surprising to see. It just missed out Wilsons Lane & Woodshires Road on the route due to the low bridge, but still served Oban Road.
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/179014?date=2021-11-18#journeys/184192095
Quote from: JPC on November 17, 2021, 10:55:34 PM
So with just 4 days notice we now have service changes on the NXC website (although I have seen some A4 posters with very small text on some buses since last Friday)
https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/service-updates/timetable-changes-from-monday-22nd-november-2021
The 2 and 19 recently had vehicle seating capacity reduced in half and now virtually half of journeys are deleted, very poor indeed.
I still cannot envisage the 1 beyond Canley Station being used much, Chapelfields and Coundon has a myraid of regular more direct routes to the City Centre, the link to Earlsdon is now it's only purpose, I feel the 1 should of been cut to off-peak hours only in order to retain a half-hourly service on service 2 at peak times.
TfWM have hinted these changes are 'temporary', but then again nothing is permanent nowadays. ;)
Driver shortage so says the CT.
https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/driver-shortage-fuels-huge-changes-22226186
With the SC merger / takeover there will be 3 garages in the triangle - Coventry, Nuneaton and Rugby.
Wonder if a new super depot could be built in the middle of the triangle and the old ones sold off to make lots of cash?
Quote from: Sandy Lane on December 14, 2021, 08:23:46 PM
With the SC merger / takeover there will be 3 garages in the triangle - Coventry, Nuneaton and Rugby.
Wonder if a new super depot could be built in the middle of the triangle and the old ones sold off to make lots of cash?
I believe it has been announced that no garages will close as a result of the takeover/merger. The combined business will still need drivers from wherever they can get them, so it makes sense to keep garages in Nuneaton and Rugby which would no doubt be more likely to recruit drivers living there.
Also, earlier this year Nuneaton's Peak Vehicle Requirement was 58, and Rugby's PVR was 28. Only a minority of each are for services to/from Coventry, so a "super depot" 10-15 miles away would require a huge amount of dead running - and therefore increased costs.
Excellent photo of 4464 on the main website, which has got me thinking about how long these were meant to be a transfer/cover or if they'll see out the remainder of their service?
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4225-4474/4464.html
Had a visit to the delightful Treacle Town today and scored two platinums to boot on service 20 - 6965 and 7540...
All going good until about 10 minutes into the journey on the way back towards Coventry then lo and behold crowds of industrial workers were waiting at two stops, one before and one after Griff roundabout (near Bermuda Industial Estate), the bus went from about 15 passengers to about 80 - some standing upstairs and on the staircase, so for the rest of the journey I was uncomfortably sat in the corner of the upper deck, this was the 14:36 from Nuneaton, apparently it seems to be usual occurence for this journey every day. There was a Stagecoach 48C dart about minute in front of the 20 and another 48C gold overtook whilst the 20 was loading the first crowd but they picked up next to nothing out of the crowd, naturally all the passengers were probably day/faresaver ticket users which has the advantage of many more onward links within Coventry and also much cheaper.
So if you're planning a run out to Nuneaton this is one journey I advise to avoid.
The midlands news on tuesday night announced there were to be
another 130? New (Electric) buses earmarked for Coventry sometime
in the next 18 months apparently. (All Deckers) Does Coventry
currently OWN 130 Doubles? ? :-\
Quote from: windy miller on January 19, 2022, 03:14:22 AM
The midlands news on tuesday night announced there were to be
another 130? New (Electric) buses earmarked for Coventry sometime
in the next 18 months apparently. (All Deckers) Does Coventry
currently OWN 130 Doubles? ? :-\
Almost [assuming this is correct]
[126 DD/51 SD]
10 E400EV (E020-29)
15 E200 (831-33/38-44/71-75)
36 B7RLE (2141-50/52-77)
18 Trident (4370/4403/6-14; 4450-54/64; 4576)
7 B7/ALX (4415-18/20/23-24)
17 B7/Gemini (4660-75/78)
54 E400 (4763-76; 4830-42/81-94; 4983-95)
20 E400MMC (6951-67; 7539-41)
___
177
875 out today for the first time in Coventry livery
Will coventry be likely to get any of their E buses as promised anytime this year ???
Quote from: windy miller on May 03, 2022, 03:10:29 AMWill coventry be likely to get any of their E buses as promised anytime this year ???
I'd risk a couple of quid on seeing the first of them in service before H1001-H1020 return, but I'm not a betting man!
4670 has entered service for the first time in over 6 months.
Quote from: cardew on May 03, 2022, 07:12:11 AMI'd risk a couple of quid on seeing the first of them in service before H1001-H1020 return, but I'm not a betting man!
I wouldn't put money on it... I might have a few quid of yours! It answers my other question too... ie when will we see the H buses back on the road? Is there a major problem or just logistics?
Quote from: windy miller on May 08, 2022, 02:37:56 AMI wouldn't put money on it... I might have a few quid of yours! It answers my other question too... ie when will we see the H buses back on the road? Is there a major problem or just logistics?
Early June for the Walsall H buses
For those that haven't seen it on Facebook here is 871 in a new livery to match the new electrics due in the next few weeks NXWM 871 (wmbusphotos.com) (https://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/0501-0830/871.html)
Quote from: Tony on May 12, 2022, 06:59:03 PMFor those that haven't seen it on Facebook here is 871 in a new livery to match the new electrics due in the next few weeks NXWM 871 (wmbusphotos.com) (https://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/0501-0830/871.html)
Looks good , and will this livery come across to the West Midlands ( red line instead )
I saw a picture on someone's Instagram Story of a Enviro400 MMC (I think 6106) in the West Midlands version, whether it's real or edited I'm not sure but if it's real it looks to be a nice livery
QuoteI saw a picture on someone's Instagram Story of a Enviro400 MMC (I think 6106) in the West Midlands version, whether it's real or edited I'm not sure but if it's real it looks to be a nice livery
It was 6110 and was a trial run
Quote from: Tony on May 12, 2022, 06:59:03 PMFor those that haven't seen it on Facebook here is 871 in a new livery to match the new electrics due in the next few weeks NXWM 871 (wmbusphotos.com) (https://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/0501-0830/871.html)
Interesting. I believe all the electrics due to arrive over the next few months will be double-decks, so if the remaining single-decks get treated to this new livery design, for the first time in a long time we'll have one garage/area with a consistent fleet livery.
Quote from: Tony on May 12, 2022, 06:59:03 PMFor those that haven't seen it on Facebook here is 871 in a new livery to match the new electrics due in the next few weeks NXWM 871 (wmbusphotos.com) (https://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/0501-0830/871.html)
I like this livery but think, as with the NXWM red livery, a lining band below the window line would be good to break up the grey - possibly in the sky blue colour for Coventry. On the double deckers, I would imagine this would be even more important as the area of unrelieved grey will be extensive.
Will the platinum routes in Coventry (I'm thinking especially the Leamington service) go over to this livery also?
Quote from: don on May 13, 2022, 03:22:56 PMI like this livery but think, as with the NXWM red livery, a lining band below the window line would be good to break up the grey - possibly in the sky blue colour for Coventry. On the double deckers, I would imagine this would be even more important as the area of unrelieved grey will be extensive.
Will the platinum routes in Coventry (I'm thinking especially the Leamington service) go over to this livery also?
Probably not, as the current Platinum vehicles at Coventry will be leaving once they are replaced by electrics, as I understand things.
I would presume that all new electric buses will be delivered in this new livery, which would leave the remaining diesel single-decks in the 'old' Coventry colours. Whether they would be repainted remains to be seen, unless of course there are also some electric single decks already on order, they will probably stay at Coventry for another year at least.
Presumably the Electric 9 ones might get a repaint into the new livery.
Quote from: Stu on May 13, 2022, 06:07:49 PMProbably not, as the current Platinum vehicles at Coventry will be leaving once they are replaced by electrics, as I understand things.
I would presume that all new electric buses will be delivered in this new livery, which would leave the remaining diesel single-decks in the 'old' Coventry colours. Whether they would be repainted remains to be seen, unless of course there are also some electric single decks already on order, they will probably stay at Coventry for another year at least.
Yes I would think so - it remains to be seen what happens with the X1!
It looks to me as though the E200s may be staying for a while (based on the repainting of 871 and 875), but that the B7RLEs will be replaced (based again on what's happening with 2143 etc) - that would make a fleet of 154 or so with the existing electrics - it's always fun to second guess
@Tony et al's fleet strategy :grin:
I wonder if the cost of repainting all of the cascaded Coventry fleet as a result of the Coventry electric initiative has partially led to a re-think on livery - that's quite a big cost in a short period and will take up a lot of general fleet maintenance repaint space - I'm guessing all the Tridents and Geminis will be replaced as life expired. Inter transfers between Coventry and West Midlands after this would only involve changing the stripe and part of the fleetname - significantly more straightforward - eg when the E200s get replaced by electrics before 2025.
Quote from: 2206 on May 13, 2022, 06:14:38 PMPresumably the Electric 9 ones might get a repaint into the new livery.
I did actually consider the possibility that the current 10 electrics at Coventry might just transfer to the West Midlands - for the sake of keeping batches together and that so CV had an 'all-new' electric fleet.
But it is probably more likely they'll get a new lick of paint to match the new ones.
Quote from: don on May 13, 2022, 07:13:32 PMYes I would think so - it remains to be seen what happens with the X1!
It looks to me as though the E200s may be staying for a while (based on the repainting of 871 and 875), but that the B7RLEs will be replaced (based again on what's happening with 2143 etc) - that would make a fleet of 154 or so with the existing electrics - it's always fun to second guess @Tony et al's fleet strategy :grin:
I wonder if the cost of repainting all of the cascaded Coventry fleet as a result of the Coventry electric initiative has partially led to a re-think on livery - that's quite a big cost in a short period and will take up a lot of general fleet maintenance repaint space - I'm guessing all the Tridents and Geminis will be replaced as life expired. Inter transfers between Coventry and West Midlands after this would only involve changing the stripe and part of the fleetname - significantly more straightforward - eg when the E200s get replaced by electrics before 2025.
Regarding the X1, I'm not sure about its long-term future - certainly once the Sprint route is up and running to the Airport, there's a possibility that the X1 could be dropped, and a new route from Coventry to Airport via Meriden introduced to maintain a bus link.
Or the X1 could continue, but by 2025 it would need to be operated with electric or hydrogen buses (technically the hydrogen vehicles are still 'electric' so would fulfil the criteria for Coventry being an 'all electric bus' city).
Quote from: Stu on May 13, 2022, 08:25:23 PMI did actually consider the possibility that the current 10 electrics at Coventry might just transfer to the West Midlands - for the sake of keeping batches together and that so CV had an 'all-new' electric fleet.
But it is probably more likely they'll get a new lick of paint to match the new ones.
I wondered the same as they wouldn't need a repaint to move to WM. It seems that the new ones will be in effect leased and if NX actually own the electrics currently at Coventry maybe that will be a factor. All guess work as usual of course.
QuoteI wondered the same as they wouldn't need a repaint to move to WM. It seems that the new ones will be in effect leased and if NX actually own the electrics currently at Coventry maybe that will be a factor. All guess work as usual of course.
All current and on order electrics are all owned by Zenobe
Quote from: Tony on May 13, 2022, 08:39:57 PMAll current and on order electrics are all owned by Zenobe
I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for clarifying
Just seen a new electric enter the depot didn't see a fleet number but it was one of the ones that's not had the blue stripe added yet
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on June 30, 2022, 12:06:09 PMJust seen a new electric enter the depot didn't see a fleet number but it was one of the ones that's not had the blue stripe added yet
That seems interesting 🤔
QuoteThat seems interesting 🤔
How is it interesting, the odds are it's getting it's livery additions added on whilst in Coventry...
E034 is listed as going to be attending Gaydon Bus Festival along with 2001 4535 1834 2957 and the heath buzz
QuoteE034 is listed as going to be attending Gaydon Bus Festival along with 2001 4535 1834 2957 and the heath buzz
Unfortunately it won't be going, it will be one of YWs
QuoteUnfortunately it won't be going, it will be one of YWs
Is there plans for a Hydrogen bus to attend or is the fuelling still an issue?
Nice to see 874 , 875 and 871 all leave coventry garage in a convoy a moment ago
Bunch of cov buses tracking as T1, what is T1 and where they going?
QuoteBunch of cov buses tracking as T1, what is T1 and where they going?
You only have to click on 'track this bus' and you will see they are all just moving around in depot, so it is just a quirk of the information.
Quote from: Tony on July 08, 2022, 07:55:18 PMYou only have to click on 'track this bus' and you will see they are all just moving around in depot, so it is just a quirk of the information.
This has been asked about before here, and I speculated that perhaps "T1" is some kind of 'testing' or 'training' mode that the Init unit is in, which seems plausible if new drivers are being trained in-garage on how to use the equipment, is that the explanation somehow?
Not sure if this is the most suitable place to put this but I was just looking through the nx bus Coventry website and it seems like in Coventry you have the chance to pay for any ticket by contactless rather than being restricted to an adult daysaver as is the case in the rest of the West Midlands. Is this new, and why doesn't the West Midlands have the same thing?
https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/contactless
QuoteNot sure if this is the most suitable place to put this but I was just looking through the nx bus Coventry website and it seems like in Coventry you have the chance to pay for any ticket by contactless rather than being restricted to an adult daysaver as is the case in the rest of the West Midlands. Is this new, and why doesn't the West Midlands have the same thing?
https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/contactless
Yes it is new, started this week, and Coventry is testing it works for the whole West Midlands
Just seen a Facebook post saying that the ADL E400FCEV is coming to coventry as a demonstrator
Managed to take a quick picture of the Enviro 400 FCEV outside Transport MuseumB4663BDA-45CD-4D91-93A8-B22C6B57D98F.jpeg
Quote from: Danthebusman on July 17, 2022, 10:45:19 AMSome bizarre allocations today for sunday service with E023 and 6966 making an appearance on the 18 with 4413 and 4450 also enjoying their time out in the sun on the 8 and 16
There was a post in the bus photo group saying the Evs will be used on any routes every Sunday from today
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on July 17, 2022, 02:41:41 PMThere was a post in the bus photo group saying the Evs will be used on any routes every Sunday from today
Correct. There is 1 EV on the 20 at the moment
QuoteYes it is new, started this week, and Coventry is testing it works for the whole West Midlands
Looks like it's been launched across the whole West Midlands now
6958 has now been debranded from the University routes and rebranded with NXWM generic platinum branding ready to be transferred to the West Midlands fleet
Quote from: BNH2004 on July 22, 2022, 06:03:23 PM6958 has now been debranded from the University routes and rebranded with NXWM generic platinum branding ready to be transferred to the West Midlands fleet
Does this perhaps indicate the University routes may become some of the first to go electric? Interesting if true given the length of the routes...
QuoteDoes this perhaps indicate the University routes may become some of the first to go electric? Interesting if true given the length of the routes...
Stop, start uses more energy than a consistent running
QuoteStop, start uses more energy than a consistent running
No it doesn't that's the whole point of it. It uses less fuel, so less emissions
Quote from: BK63 YWP on July 22, 2022, 09:34:43 PMStop, start uses more energy than a consistent running
Stop/start only uses more Diesel than a consistent running bus
QuoteStop/start only uses more Diesel than a consistent running bus
Not sure where you get that from, but stop start is reckoned to use around 7% less fuel
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-technology/a22994303/automatic-start-stop-useful-fuel-savings/#:~:text=Most%20people%20think%20the%20amount,eight%20percent%20in%20heavy%20traffic.
QuoteStop/start only uses more Diesel than a consistent running bus
It doesn't, the stop and start feature reduces emissions and the amount of diesel used because a bus like the e200mmc doesn't have the stop and start feature and that mean the engine is still on which is using fuel, so stop and start is technically using less fuel. Might not be alot but its saving at least some fuel
Can someone look at 4665s front display as it's really dark and not clear until the bus is in front of you
There was a time a month or so back where the front display of 4665 didn't show anything whatsoever for a few days so it does have a dodgy display.
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on July 25, 2022, 09:26:02 AMCan someone look at 4665s front display as it's really dark and not clear until the bus is in front of you
Report it in the following topic, has a chance of being picked up on:
https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=4224.0
QuoteThere was a time a month or so back where the front display of 4665 didn't show anything whatsoever for a few days so it does have a dodgy display.
It wasn't in service for a few days not working.
The garage will never knowingly send a bus out when it is not working. The only occasional time one will get out is if the driver doesn't check until the first timing point, but would never be sent out a second day
840's first day out in service in her new livery.
6963 now has generic national express branding :)
Not sure if anyones posted but E025 has a mega rear for the coventry international childrens games
I picked up a paper Coventry route map at Pool Meadow yesterday as they seem to be back, but upon review when i opened it up later yesterday evening, it said that routes 1 and 7A were not WMCA subsidised! I don't know if this is a mistake by TFWM but if those routes aren't subsidised then something must be going horribly wrong at NX if the 1 is running commercial (the 7A to be shortened to only the useful section from September).
Quote from: stellasteve on August 17, 2022, 03:53:15 PMI picked up a paper Coventry route map at Pool Meadow yesterday as they seem to be back, but upon review when i opened it up later yesterday evening, it said that routes 1 and 7A were not WMCA subsidised! I don't know if this is a mistake by TFWM but if those routes aren't subsidised then something must be going horribly wrong at NX if the 1 is running commercial (the 7A to be shortened to only the useful section from September).
I can see the 1 being removed or cut back as I hardly see anyone on it
4989 needs its display updating as the number is still on the right side
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on August 20, 2022, 11:44:43 AM4989 needs its display updating as the number is still on the right side
The right side is the right side. Coventry seem to like the 'wrong' side!
Quote from: Gareth on August 20, 2022, 11:55:22 AMThe right side is the right side. Coventry seem to like the 'wrong' side!
My bad I was ment to put left side 🤦🏻�♂️
Has anybody noticed issues with the reliability of service 8, twice weekday afternoon departures have failed to turn up and I wondered what had happened. And yes I gave plenty of time before it was due in case it was early.
Thanks,
Quote from: Ben on August 20, 2022, 04:50:43 PMHas anybody noticed issues with the reliability of service 8, twice weekday afternoon departures have failed to turn up and I wondered what had happened. And yes I gave plenty of time before it was due in case it was early.
I've had the same with one particular journey on the 17/17A being missing on Mon and Thur both this week and last week, like clockwork you would think, and very frustrating when it's your last leg home (of four buses per day) yet the other services I use were exemplary.
NXC are not saying so far what the TT is for bank holiday Monday. Will it be Sunday service?
Quote from: Sandy Lane on August 25, 2022, 08:34:49 AMNXC are not saying so far what the TT is for bank holiday Monday. Will it be Sunday service?
Usually is a Sunday service.
Just seen an ex Coventry articulated Citaro on Woodway Lane.
I Always give the driver a wave or thumbs up when I see him.
And yesterday I think 831 was on the 8 which is an oddity.
All of the ex 11/12X MMCs have been painted into the NXWM price branding livery ready for transferral.
Quote from: Danthebusman on September 15, 2022, 12:48:40 PMAll of the ex 11/12X MMCs have been painted into the NXWM price branding livery ready for transferral.
I reckon some may go to west brom or pensnet
Quote from: Danthebusman on September 15, 2022, 12:48:40 PMAll of the ex 11/12X MMCs have been painted into the NXWM price branding livery ready for transferral.
Been like that for a couple weeks now and not painted , it's branding
QuoteBeen like that for a couple weeks now and not painted , it's branding
Last one was only done yesterday
While I have been on holiday it looks like E042, E047, E053 & E064 have joined E034 & E063 at Coventry
Quote from: Tony on September 25, 2022, 08:27:14 AMWhile I have been on holiday it looks like E042, E047, E053 & E064 have joined E034 & E063 at Coventry
Guessing transfers out will start happening this week then ?
I took a few pics of E064 and E053 standing by the Ford St car park yesterday, there was another present with a '2' in its fleet number - E042 then.
Quote from: paulb1973 on September 25, 2022, 11:01:45 AMI took a few pics of E064 and E053 standing by the Ford St car park yesterday, there was another present with a '2' in its fleet number - E042 then.
Have you got a link to these photos please?
Quote from: cvbususer on September 25, 2022, 12:45:35 PMHave you got a link to these photos please?
https://postimg.cc/vgbrgmMg (https://postimg.cc/vgbrgmMg)
Hopefully this link will work (of E064)
Quote from: cvbususer on September 25, 2022, 12:45:35 PMHave you got a link to these photos please?
(https://i.postimg.cc/CMbzhhy6/DSC-8475.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/z3XJp1Gn)
They are in service on 12X, I'm currently on E42, passed E34 and E47. You can tell from Bustimes they are on 12X because there virtually no buses on the route!
Quote from: Tony on September 25, 2022, 08:27:14 AMWhile I have been on holiday it looks like E042, E047, E053 & E064 have joined E034 & E063 Who
Who is the person who gets these new buses on Bustimes as I'm going to invite BusandTrainUser to come and sample them. Unlike Edinburgh he doesn't have a Travel Centre to go to and ask what route they are running on!
QuoteWho is the person who gets these new buses on Bustimes as I'm going to invite BusandTrainUser to come and sample them. Unlike Edinburgh he doesn't have a Travel Centre to go to and ask what route they are running on!
They go on bustimes when the AVL data is updated on BODS (Bus Open Data Service)
It seems 6960, 6962, 4775 have departed from coventry information from https://www.facebook.com/groups/204692769900311/permalink/1783281522041420/
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on September 28, 2022, 12:14:42 PMIt seems 6960, 6962, 4775 have departed from coventry information from https://www.facebook.com/groups/204692769900311/permalink/1783281522041420/
4776 has left aswell
Word of warning, where buses go to initially isn't necessarily their permanent home. At the moment I am using cascades out just to fill holes left by withdrawals during reduced timetables. 4775/6 have gone to YW to cover for the loss of 4550/2
Are these Coventry deckers going to be repainted into crimson?
Quote from: BK63 YWP on September 28, 2022, 05:04:19 PMAre these Coventry deckers going to be repainted into crimson?
Yes
QuoteYes
Thought the paint couldn't do decker repaints ATM?
QuoteThought the paint couldn't do decker repaints ATM?
Also, No buses will be repainted crimson.
Quote from: Tony on September 28, 2022, 05:40:22 PMAlso, No buses will be repainted crimson.
I suppose eithier will stay in blue or will be in the new grey and red livery as a guess
Quote from: Tony on September 28, 2022, 04:42:02 PMWord of warning, where buses go to initially isn't necessarily their permanent home. At the moment I am using cascades out just to fill holes left by withdrawals during reduced timetables. 4775/6 have gone to YW to cover for the loss of 4550/2
Just my luck, according to BusTimes, 4776 was on the 2 I just missed by a couple of minutes when travelling home this evening!
No time wasted getting both out into service this afternoon!
4776 has already broken down this morning over there as well
Has there been enough extra charging points fitted within Coventry garage to facilitate the new buses now arriving?
QuoteHas there been enough extra charging points fitted within Coventry garage to facilitate the new buses now arriving?
More than enough, an extra 60 were commissioned before any entered service
Quote from: Danthebusman on October 07, 2022, 12:51:37 PME021 on the 7 (2nd time I've noticed an EV on there)
I'm pretty sure that as the new EVs arrive and go into service, they will be used on any double-deck route.
Sadly by sometime in 2024, there'll be no such thing as a 'noteworthy working' in Coventry.
Quote from: Tony on October 03, 2022, 06:10:55 AMMore than enough, an extra 60 were commissioned before any entered service
Thanks for the reply Tony. Most helpful.
Quote from: Stu on October 07, 2022, 04:03:40 PMI'm pretty sure that as the new EVs arrive and go into service, they will be used on any double-deck route.
Sadly by sometime in 2024, there'll be no such thing as a 'noteworthy working' in Coventry.
Yeah it's going to be boring in a way because we'll just be seeing the same buses everywhere
Quote from: Danthebusman on October 09, 2022, 03:44:15 PMYeah it's going to be boring in a way because we'll just be seeing the same buses everywhere
Same could be said for the metro bus
Quote from: Solo1 on October 09, 2022, 05:07:13 PMSame could be said for the metro bus
But with the Metrobus, you also still had Fleetlines, Nationals, Metroriders, Lynx's , ,even VRs for a time - all of these buses were unique in their own ways and we're certainly different 'drive wise' for both drivers and passengers.
Then, there were lots of different bus manufacturers whereas today there is little difference really between single deck and double deck vehicles made by the same few manufacturers. I mean an E200, E300 and E400 - if you ignore the obvious visual looks, the actual bus is not very different to the others.
The 1980s and 1990s were the most interesting times in my view for bus types in the West Midlands, the 2000s pretty decent too with first generation low floor vehicles. Today, it must be a dream for engineering departments with everything being fairly similar but quite boring overall
However, there are 130 new buses in delivery progress. There are generally around 160 NXC buses required. Based on recent repaints, it looks like there will be 10 E200s around for a couple of years yet, so what will the other 20 be - B7RLE or E400, or some of each?
A bigger question is what will replace them? Single deck electrics?
I think there will still be a bit of interest there!!
Quote from: don on October 09, 2022, 07:29:03 PMHowever, there are 130 new buses in delivery progress. There are generally around 160 NXC buses required. Based on recent repaints, it looks like there will be 10 E200s around for a couple of years yet, so what will the other 20 be - B7RLE or E400, or some of each?
A bigger question is what will replace them? Single deck electrics?
I think there will still be a bit of interest there!!
Did you forget to add the original 10x electrics to the equation?
In any case it still anyone's guess when there is red herrings such as the rumour of the X1 service moving to Coventry. But I will think a minimum of 10x B7RLE will certainly remain as a few will be needed for the low bridge service 20B and perhaps the existing Mon-Sat 20A/20C (& 20 in the evening) keeping them together on the Foleshill Rd.
Quote from: JPC on October 09, 2022, 08:18:24 PMDid you forget to add the original 10x electrics to the equation?
In any case it still anyone's guess when there is red herrings such as the rumour of the X1 service moving to Coventry. But I will think a minimum of 10x B7RLE will certainly remain as a few will be needed for the low bridge service 20B and perhaps the existing Mon-Sat 20A/20C (& 20 in the evening) keeping them together on the Foleshill Rd.
It'd be either that or reverting the 20B to its pre-Primelines route and having it terminate on Oban Road. There isn't another Coventry service that requires low buses, right?
(Or maybe the Arriva 78 can be diverted down Wilsons Lane/Woodshires Road as they'll likely have single decker electrics).
Quote from: JPC on October 09, 2022, 08:18:24 PMDid you forget to add the original 10x electrics to the equation?
Yeah (I wondered how long it would be before someone noticed that :grin: :grin:)
Still leaves around 20 vehicles - perhaps 10 x E200 and 10 x B7RLE?
I'm also presuming any single decker cascades from Coventry will ultimately replace Scanias. I'm quite surprised to see B7 Geminis being cascaded - surely can only be very short term - and I wonder how many passengers at, say Merry Hill or Bartley Green would mistake a cascaded latest TC livery bus for a Diamond vehicle/service......
Quote from: ellspurs on October 09, 2022, 08:26:17 PMIt'd be either that or reverting the 20B to its pre-Primelines route and having it terminate on Oban Road. There isn't another Coventry service that requires low buses, right?
Are the 24 and 25 clear for double decks? No low bridges, I think, but any overhanging trees?
Double decks on them would be an extravagance.
Quote from: Justin Tyme on October 09, 2022, 09:00:05 PMAre the 24 and 25 clear for double decks? No low bridges, I think, but any overhanging trees?
Double decks on them would be an extravagance.
I reckon the E200s will be used for the 1, 19, potentially 85/B services and the 24/25 services and then the B7RLES will probably be used on the 20A/B/C and then a few will be scattered around on the 14/17/18 I reckon.
E040 & E054 currently on their way to Coventry, should be arriving in around 30 min
Two more withdrawals on MoT expiry at Coventry are 4410 & 4671. 4450 was given an MoT yesterday so will be one of the last Tridents running in Coventry
Quote from: Tony on October 21, 2022, 10:59:32 AMTwo more withdrawals on MoT expiry at Coventry are 4410 & 4671. 4450 was given an MoT yesterday so will be one of the last Tridents running in Coventry
Could tell 4410 was going soon, started to sound like a jetwash
QuoteCould tell 4410 was going soon, started to sound like a jetwash
Nothing to do with that, just run up to MoT day
Just seem 7539 - SN69 ZMV on the 20 now in the birmingham platinum leg room livery. First or the sky blue liverys to go into the birmingham livery
2155 entered service today for the first time in over 2 months but broke down after 4 hours on the 17
Can someone tell me if the odd 4 electrics ( 030/31/32/33) currently
at watford are expected to turn up at coventry anytime soon? thanks
QuoteCan someone tell me if the odd 4 electrics ( 030/31/32/33) currently
at watford are expected to turn up at coventry anytime soon? thanks
No. They are with The King's Ferry but on hire for the Potter Shuttles
Quote from: windy miller on November 11, 2022, 01:33:26 AMCan someone tell me if the odd 4 electrics ( 030/31/32/33) currently
at watford are expected to turn up at coventry anytime soon? thanks
No there staying there for the Harry Potter contract I believe
No
Don't know whether it will last all day, but at the moment Coventry don't have a single diesel double deck on the road. All duties are being operated by Electrics or B7RLEs
Quote from: Tony on November 20, 2022, 10:25:26 AMDon't know whether it will last all day, but at the moment Coventry don't have a single diesel double deck on the road. All duties are being operated by Electrics or B7RLEs
Driving around Coventry this morning and only seeing electric buses was quite the spectacle! I guess this will only become a more common thing to see as time progresses
Quote from: cvbususer on November 20, 2022, 01:56:51 PMDriving around Coventry this morning and only seeing electric buses was quite the spectacle! I guess this will only become a more common thing to see as time progresses
100% hopefully they'll be out the whole day as well in future and not have to be replaced with a diesal in the evening
I saw on unidentified E200 in new grey( blue stripe) livery heading to West Brom garage around 11:30 today
Watch out for 1908 in service on the 20 services later in the week.
Quote from: Tony on November 28, 2022, 06:57:58 PMWatch out for 1908 in service on the 20 services later in the week.
Sorry if i sound dumb but is 1908 a new bus?
QuoteSorry if i sound dumb but is 1908 a new bus?
No completely new, but new to Coventry
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on November 28, 2022, 07:12:11 PMSorry if i sound dumb but is 1908 a new bus?
I'd guess it is some demonstrator?
That fleetnumber has been used in the past for other demonstrators used in service:
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/fleetlist/1750-1953.html
Quote from: Stu on November 28, 2022, 07:18:18 PMI'd guess it is some demonstrator?
That fleetnumber has been used in the past for other demonstrators used in service:
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/fleetlist/1750-1953.html
This will be the forth number 1908 ! (NXD 2030 was once 1908 - but this vehicle isn't numbered either 1908 or 2030 now).
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Anyone know whats going on with 4769, veen doing loops round the ring road
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tcvw-cv-4769?date=2022-11-29#journeys/344932754
Quote from: Danthebusman on November 30, 2022, 12:16:24 PMAnyone know whats going on with 4769, veen doing loops round the ring road
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tcvw-cv-4769?date=2022-11-29#journeys/344932754
Could be on a engineering road test
1908 out in service
Yep, saw in the dark on the NXC 20 abt an hour ago. Nice and bright front white coloured destination blind.
@Tony how long is this electric citaro at Coventry for please?
Quote@Tony how long is this electric citaro at Coventry for please?
Around 3 weeks
Do you know the likelihood of it being used on weekends by any chance?
Will 1908 be spread across other single deck routes or is it staying on the 20A/C
On the same trips every day
4764 out for the first time on 22 in just under 2 months
Noticed earlier the 11 was diverting in Leamington. Saw them going down Rugby Road and Binswood Street (I presume it's diverting off the A452 via old milverton?) I know Northumberland Road is closed which would push alot more traffic into Kenilworth Road, guessing that's the reason.
According to Bustimes, Route 16 is Coventry city centre or Coventry - Keresley village. This implies that
destinations displaying Coventry or the absurd via Coventry are not destined for or going through the city
centre, so where are they going ?
Quote from: sandboy20 on December 18, 2022, 01:54:07 PMAccording to Bustimes, Route 16 is Coventry city centre or Coventry - Keresley village. This implies that
destinations displaying Coventry or the absurd via Coventry are not destined for or going through the city
centre, so where are they going ?
Buses carry 'Coventry' inbound and 'Keresley Village' outbound and 'via Radford Road' both ways, as far as I can remember.
Only MMCs and EVs out today with no B7RLEs surprisingly, also noticed the 13 isn't in 2 halves either
Not a single EV on the 9 today full of 69xx MMCs
Quote from: Danthebusman on January 03, 2023, 04:16:20 PMNot a single EV on the 9 today full of 69xx MMCs
Someone forgot to buy new batteries!
The Electrics don't have any specific route and can be used on any route in the garage except the single deck 20 boards
Quote from: Tony on January 04, 2023, 02:39:00 PMThe Electrics don't have any specific route and can be used on any route in the garage except the single deck 20 boards
True. The only reason I pointed out the 9 is because it was the 1st route to use the EVs consistently.
Just seen a photo in the coventry bus group that buses are now being parked in cox street car park
Quote from: Tony on January 04, 2023, 02:39:00 PMThe Electrics don't have any specific route and can be used on any route in the garage except the single deck 20 boards
How many of the boards for route 20 are single deck specific?
QuoteHow many of the boards for route 20 are single deck specific?
Currently 6 of the running boards are single deck
2174 arrived at Ansty on the X30 but taken out of service for the 0930 return run. Not sure why but back on X30 this pm
What I just realised last night, there is an hourly 20A that actually goes to the hospital in the evenings run by Stagecoach
Quote from: Danthebusman on January 17, 2023, 12:30:51 PMWhat I just realised last night, there is an hourly 20A that actually goes to the hospital in the evenings run by Stagecoach
NX dropped the journeys at the start of the year, and they were taken over by Stagecoach.
4772 on the 3 has had a new side rub. Front of one lower panel bent outwards a bit showing about 6 inches of nice shiny bright metal.
Are there any new CV (EO operated) services that are NOT Scheduled to pass /through pool meadow or turn left /right at the motor museum/ sainsbury intersection? :undecided:
thanks.....
Quote from: windy miller on January 20, 2023, 04:42:23 AMAre there any new CV (EO operated) services that are NOT Scheduled to pass /through pool meadow or turn left /right at the motor museum/ sainsbury intersection? :undecided:
thanks.....
20 is one that doesn't serve the bus station
Quote20 is one that doesn't serve the bus station
That passes the Motor Museum
Thanks for the info
This ball hill diversion is one of the most confusing I've ever known, not because of the route it takes, but because of when it's actually going to divert since some buses are still using normal line of route and others are diverting via binley road and burns road, would be a lot easier for passengers if all routes followed the diversion or went normal line of route and not a mix of both.
If Bustimes is correct, then Coventry have no fewer than 4 Tridents in service today, which I think is pretty rare for a Sunday, especially with the influx of electrics. Can anyone confirm? Many thanks
Quote from: craighu on January 22, 2023, 06:22:49 PMIf Bustimes is correct, then Coventry have no fewer than 4 Tridents in service today, which I think is pretty rare for a Sunday, especially with the influx of electrics. Can anyone confirm? Many thanks
I took a pic of 4576 on the 17 and at least one Wright Gemini today (Sunday).
Cheers Paul...am I right in saying this is quite unusual at Cov
these days?
Quote from: craighu on January 22, 2023, 06:53:37 PMCheers Paul...am I right in saying this is quite unusual at Cov
these days?
Yes, quite unusual. Even seeing Wright Gemini double deckers has become quite rare. Looks like 4576 was on the 17.
Was on 6117 this monring heading towards fox & goose. 11:04 service from Acocks Green to Perry Barr. At Stechford Station it passed a blue coventry electric E076 that had come from Fox & Goose direction.
Not sure what it was doing there though?
Quote from: 2206 on February 01, 2023, 12:20:51 PMWas on 6117 this monring heading towards fox & goose. 11:04 service from Acocks Green to Perry Barr. At Stechford Station it passed a blue coventry electric E076 that had come from Fox & Goose direction.
Not sure what it was doing there though?
I just saw it on dudley Rd summerfield Park Tony hunter driving it I think
Quote from: 2206 on February 01, 2023, 12:20:51 PMWas on 6117 this monring heading towards fox & goose. 11:04 service from Acocks Green to Perry Barr. At Stechford Station it passed a blue coventry electric E076 that had come from Fox & Goose direction.
Not sure what it was doing there though?
I was driving it around the full Outer Circle route with the top deck full of history students from Birmingham City University and Professor Carl Chinn MBE giving them the history of the Outer Circle, its landmarks and areas.
QuoteI was driving it around the full Outer Circle route with the top deck full of history students from Birmingham City University and Professor Carl Chinn MBE giving them the history of the Outer Circle, its landmarks and areas.
Mr. Fitchew was also there.
(From the nxwestmidlands Instagram)
Quote from: mesub on February 01, 2023, 07:27:53 PMMr. Fitchew was also there.
(From the nxwestmidlands Instagram)
Looks like Washwood Heath Road where the 94 stops at St Agathas Road.
Looking at Google you're correct (how I don't know) but notedly that isn't on the 11 route!
Quote from: ellspurs on February 01, 2023, 08:05:01 PMbut notedly that isn't on the 11 route!
Yes, took the 94 route out of city to join the 11 at fox & goose I think.
Quote from: 2206 on February 01, 2023, 08:09:56 PMYes, took the 94 route out of city to join the 11 at fox & goose I think.
That is correct. Everybody got on in Cardigan Street (on the 14 route) I then came out along Nechells Parkway, and Washwood Heath Road to the Fox & Goose, a full lap of the Outer Circle clockwise, then back to the University along Washwood Heath Road & Nechells parkway
is EO 58 on loan to Walsall by any chance? it was scheduled for use on the 997 route
on the 30th?
Quote from: windy miller on February 02, 2023, 12:27:51 AMis EO 58 on loan to Walsall by any chance?
No.
https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=5725.msg308960#msg308960
Interesting how the 5 gets DDs now when pretty much every bus I've seen on it has max 15 people on when there are routes like the 14/17/18/20A that have far more patronage, I'm a regular user of the 17 and the overcrowding can get a bit much with everyone crowding down the front of the bus and becomes a real nightmare with people having to get off for a second to let buggies on and off.
I also see the 14/18 getting just as crowded particularly at peak hours and the 20A obviously for making links all the way up Foleshill Rd until turning off towards Bell Green and eventually UHCW.
All in all, is not the best feeling being on an overcrowded B7RLE and you see an empty DD heading the other way. I know NX probably has their reasons for this and I'm not taking a dig at the garage, but is just something I wanted to get off my chest.
2/19 also get regular DDs especially with the DD 85 boards interworking and while I understand there are consistent workers trying to get to Torrington Ave and making links to Earlsdon (the 11 also exists there), and schoolkids going to Westwood Academy, I have still never seen a 2 or 19 jam packed full of people, same with the 5!
I'm curious as to what people think of this and like I said NX more than likely do have their reasons for this and I'm not cussing out the garage for no particular reason.
Is the 20A interworked with the 20B? If so, that is why they are single deckers.
The others I cannot comment on.
Quote from: ellspurs on February 17, 2023, 05:03:41 PMIs the 20A interworked with the 20B? If so, that is why they are single deckers.
The others I cannot comment on.
No, the 20A interworks with a 20 that terminates in Foleshill
Quote from: Danthebusman on February 17, 2023, 10:20:41 AMInteresting how the 5 gets DDs now when pretty much every bus I've seen on it has max 15 people on when there are routes like the 14/17/18/20A that have far more patronage, I'm a regular user of the 17 and the overcrowding can get a bit much with everyone crowding down the front of the bus and becomes a real nightmare with people having to get off for a second to let buggies on and off.
I also see the 14/18 getting just as crowded particularly at peak hours and the 20A obviously for making links all the way up Foleshill Rd until turning off towards Bell Green and eventually UHCW.
All in all, is not the best feeling being on an overcrowded B7RLE and you see an empty DD heading the other way. I know NX probably has their reasons for this and I'm not taking a dig at the garage, but is just something I wanted to get off my chest.
2/19 also get regular DDs especially with the DD 85 boards interworking and while I understand there are consistent workers trying to get to Torrington Ave and making links to Earlsdon (the 11 also exists there), and schoolkids going to Westwood Academy, I have still never seen a 2 or 19 jam packed full of people, same with the 5!
I'm curious as to what people think of this and like I said NX more than likely do have their reasons for this and I'm not cussing out the garage for no particular reason.
I've regularly used the 5/5A and latterly the 5/7/75 through Coundon at least once weekly and currently daily for over a decade. Back when the 5/7 used to run every 10 minutes up Barkers Butts Lane in peaks you would be able to fill a B7RLE on the 5 (a bit too much sometimes!) and the 7 would fill an ALX400 quite easily likewise with a decent passenger usage off peak to constitute DDs. However, the eclipses have always seemed to run late on the 5 since they were ordered, and many people I know just stopped taking the bus because it either arrived too late or was unreliable. If I remember correctly you could get a full 5 done on a good day in 30 minutes, but just before it was cancelled past Coundon in January I believe it was 45 minutes. The extended journey times and unreliable service put people off the bus or they just walked to other services (16/13/3 etc.) or just stopped getting the bus altogether. The final nail in the coffin was last year when on multiple occasions there were no service 5 buses running all day. What used to be an extremely busy service has faded away but it seems like when they put the B7RLE or E200 vehicles on, everyone gets the bus whilst nobody gets it when they put DDs on.
There's recently been many B7RLEs on the 16 (which I also get from time to time) which has been incredibly uncomfortable in the peaks despite not having the largest usage with the combination of 2 schools and all of the general public going to work. Multiple times in the past month I've been either denied boarding due to overcrowding, completely skipped, stood with 2 other people in the width of the gangway and even been told by a driver 'I'm not stopping until City Centre because the schoolchildren are being annoying and you won't be able to get off anyway because it's too busy - whilst standing within 2 metres of the door.'
The 20A is another good example as mentioned. Running B7RLEs on such a busy corridor is laughable and whilst there isn't an infinite supply of DDs available, chucking them on the 2/5/5A/19/85s when other buses are perfectly sufficient for those routes isn't the smartest move from my perspective (I've never been on an 85 in peaks so please correct me if I am wrong).
As you say, management probably have their own reasons and skewed passenger statistics but if these people actually went out onto the routes then I'm sure they would reallocate buses to where they are most needed. Hopefully they can sort all this out soonish so even more people aren't driven away from the buses and onto the congested roads in cars!
Quote from: stellasteve on February 17, 2023, 08:15:51 PMThere's recently been many B7RLEs on the 16 (which I also get from time to time) which has been incredibly uncomfortable in the peaks despite not having the largest usage with the combination of 2 schools and all of the general public going to work. Multiple times in the past month I've been either denied boarding due to overcrowding, completely skipped, stood with 2 other people in the width of the gangway and even been told by a driver 'I'm not stopping until City Centre because the schoolchildren are being annoying and you won't be able to get off anyway because it's too busy - whilst standing within 2 metres of the door.'
The 20A is another good example as mentioned. Running B7RLEs on such a busy corridor is laughable and whilst there isn't an infinite supply of DDs available, chucking them on the 2/5/5A/19/85s when other buses are perfectly sufficient for those routes isn't the smartest move from my perspective (I've never been on an 85 in peaks so please correct me if I am wrong).
As you say, management probably have their own reasons and skewed passenger statistics but if these people actually went out onto the routes then I'm sure they would reallocate buses to where they are most needed. Hopefully they can sort all this out soonish so even more people aren't driven away from the buses and onto the congested roads in cars!
You can see my own and others experiences in the West Midlands boards - the problem appears to be still that NX as a whole has far too many single decks than are actually required, BUT they still need to be used somewhere in active service.
In the short-term, its going to be something that we have to put up with, certainly while Coventry garage is undergoing a 'transition' with the arrival of all these new electric double-decks, there are probably valid reasons why single-decks are being allocated the way they are.
So NXC shouldn't put double decks on the 85 when tenders require them for certain journeys to cope with school loadings? In fact for one board a 73 seat vehicle is specified, so even an electric doesn't meet the spec.
Quote from: Tony on February 17, 2023, 09:39:35 PMSo NXC shouldn't put double decks on the 85 when tenders require them for certain journeys to cope with school loadings? In fact for one board a 73 seat vehicle is specified, so even an electric doesn't meet the spec.
I understand the DD 85 boards, just don't understand why they get thrown onto the 2/19 afterwards
Quote from: Danthebusman on February 18, 2023, 09:39:39 AMI understand the DD 85 boards, just don't understand why they get thrown onto the 2/19 afterwards
I always thought the 2/85 interwork with each other
Quote from: ellspurs on February 17, 2023, 05:03:41 PMIs the 20A interworked with the 20B? If so, that is why they are single deckers.
The others I cannot comment on.
Accordjng to bustimes.org it would seem that the 20 and 20A and 20B interwork at certain times. However it would appear that it's mostly the 20 & 20A that interwork.
A lot of the 20 branded B7RLEs being used on other routes today with only 1 of them actually being on the 20/A/B
Can't see any mention of this on here but 4414 has been sold for preservation.
Quote from: Tony on February 24, 2023, 05:51:53 PMI know they meet the criteria on the spreadsheet at the moment, but the X30 is currently normally double decks
OK thks for the info. What's the reason as it was rare to see a decker on the X30?
Quote from: Sandy Lane on February 25, 2023, 08:10:18 AMOK thks for the info. What's the reason as it was rare to see a decker on the X30?
Yes especially since most of them run empty 🤣
This 9/17 interworking seems to be confusing the drivers at times
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tcvw-e051?date=2023-02-26#journeys/390229776
Quote from: Danthebusman on February 26, 2023, 02:02:15 PMThis 9/17 interworking seems to be confusing the drivers at times
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tcvw-e051?date=2023-02-26#journeys/390229776
Can anyone tell me how long these new Coventry Electric vehicles are generally held at BC before being passed to Coventry ? and do they need any further tests before entering service?
Quote from: windy miller on March 02, 2023, 03:09:15 AMCan anyone tell me how long these new Coventry Electric vehicles are generally held at BC before being passed to Coventry ? and do they need any further tests before entering service?
There's no fixed time, the cycling through will get a lot quicker once Coventry can start accepting them again next week
2173 tracking today for first time in nearly a year
Quote from: Danthebusman on March 06, 2023, 11:10:07 AM2173 tracking today for first time in nearly a year
Has been out in service. Just an issue with the tracker
A few DVSA registrations (https://bustimes.org/licences/PD0001111) have recently appeared which indicates the following changes (to commence 23rd April)...
Service 7A - renumbered as 7, no change to timetable.
Service 15 - The Whitmore Park arm of service 13 is renumbered 15.
Services 2, 13/13A (Willenhall) and 19 - amended timetables.
Quote from: JPC on March 07, 2023, 11:23:03 PMA few DVSA registrations (https://bustimes.org/licences/PD0001111) have recently appeared which indicates the following changes (to commence 23rd April)...
Service 7A - renumbered as 7, no change to timetable.
Service 15 - The Whitmore Park arm of service 13 is renumbered 15.
Services 2, 13/13A (Willenhall) and 19 - amended timetables.
Interesting anyone know if the 15 will pick up outside the car museum or will it be like it is now also does anyone know what the timetable charges to the 2 will be
Quote from: JPC on March 07, 2023, 11:23:03 PMA few DVSA registrations (https://bustimes.org/licences/PD0001111) have recently appeared which indicates the following changes (to commence 23rd April)...
Service 7A - renumbered as 7, no change to timetable.
Service 15 - The Whitmore Park arm of service 13 is renumbered 15.
Services 2, 13/13A (Willenhall) and 19 - amended timetables.
Throwback to the past for Whitmore Park, 15 was the number used here until April 1985.
So the 9,17,20A are the only services running during the stikes
Does anyone know if the x30 and the school routes are contracted to national express
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on March 11, 2023, 08:20:04 AMSo the 9,17,20A are the only services running during the stikes
Does anyone know if the x30 and the school routes are contracted to national express
No NXC buses on Sundays to then. The limited 7am -7pm service only runs Monday to Saturdays.
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on March 11, 2023, 08:20:04 AMSo the 9,17,20A are the only services running during the stikes
So just a handful of duties planned to operate during the strike and I appreciate the need for the Hospital links, however I am at a loss as to why they are effectively 'wasting a bus' by operating the 9 all the way to Finham, the Stagecoach 60 service amply provides a link from Finham and Styvechale to UHCW. This bus could have been utilised better if it headed elsewhere i.e Tile Hill or any other vast area where there is no nearby routes provided by other operators.
Quote from: JPC on March 11, 2023, 07:58:53 PMSo just a handful of duties planned to operate during the strike and I appreciate the need for the Hospital links, however I am at a loss as to why they are effectively 'wasting a bus' by operating the 9 all the way to Finham, the Stagecoach 60 service amply provides a link from Finham and Styvechale to UHCW. This bus could have been utilised better if it headed elsewhere i.e Tile Hill or any other vast area where there is no nearby routes provided by other operators.
I did say that on there Facebook post just wished they kept the 4 going from tile hill south to UHCW
Routes now running from tomorrow
https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/service-updates/strike-action
Quote from: Dennis Dart Plaxton Pointer on March 19, 2023, 07:25:04 PMRoutes now running from tomorrow
https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/service-updates/strike-action
A few more routes then was planned last week hopefully a few more midlands routes can run
Quote from: Dennis Dart Plaxton Pointer on March 19, 2023, 07:25:04 PMRoutes now running from tomorrow
https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/service-updates/strike-action
Promising news even though my local routes aren't running - I just hope that people who would make non-essential journeys travel via alternative means where possible to free up seats for others who need it!
Hope the 17 and 20A are non-tracking today since only NX buses (according to bus times) going to hospital is the 9 which is running hourly...
Quote from: Danthebusman on March 20, 2023, 11:21:44 AMHope the 17 and 20A are non-tracking today since only NX buses (according to bus times) going to hospital is the 9 which is running hourly...
Seems like nothing is tracking now
Quote from: Danthebusman on March 20, 2023, 11:21:44 AMHope the 17 and 20A are non-tracking today since only NX buses (according to bus times) going to hospital is the 9 which is running hourly...
Just seen 4772 on 17 so I reckon it's an issue with the timetables not being updated on bustimes causing buses to not track
Quote from: Danthebusman on March 20, 2023, 03:37:05 PMJust seen 4772 on 17 so I reckon it's an issue with the timetables not being updated on bustimes causing buses to not track
If course it is. It is special timetables. Buses have to match what is registered with dvsa for tracking to work
I'm not too sure what's gone on with CV routes today but by the looks of the tracker alongside my own (and others who have contacted me) observations of no buses out there seems to be an issue with them leaving the depot.
Buses being prevented leaving the garage
Quote from: stellasteve on March 22, 2023, 08:20:41 AMI'm not too sure what's gone on with CV routes today but by the looks of the tracker alongside my own (and others who have contacted me) observations of no buses out there seems to be an issue with them leaving the depot.
The stiking drivers have blocked the exits
Is the other car park blocked by them also?
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on March 22, 2023, 08:32:02 AMThe stiking drivers have blocked the exits
Didn't even let out the 85/S out for the long school run to Rugby 🤦�♂️
Quote from: Danthebusman on March 22, 2023, 09:16:48 AMDidn't even let out the 85/S out for the long school run to Rugby 🤦�♂️
Its disgusting just spoken to my union rep who said they shouldn't be blocking non union members from working
Iv seen a post saying the police are having to escort buses out of the depot
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on March 22, 2023, 10:13:20 AMIv seen a post saying the police are having to escort buses out of the depot
only 4669 on the 9 is out so far according to bus times, still 10+ buses allocated to boards stuck in the depot
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on March 22, 2023, 09:13:43 AMIs the other car park blocked by them also?
Maybe the management should block the car park exit !
do any other WM depots have plans to disrupt everyone ?
Quote from: windy miller on March 22, 2023, 05:18:42 PMMaybe the management should block the car park exit !
do any other WM depots have plans to disrupt everyone ?
Its not the depots its the drivers who are striking who are disrupting everyone
OK ARE drivers from other depots planning disruption???
Quote from: windy miller on March 22, 2023, 05:35:22 PMOK ARE drivers from other depots planning disruption??
Pretty much every depot in the west midlands has been blocked this week. I'm amazed Coventry's wasn't blocked from day 1.
Quote from: GoldenSquid on March 22, 2023, 06:30:41 PMPretty much every depot in the west midlands has been blocked this week. I'm amazed Coventry's wasn't blocked from day 1.
Pensnett hasn't
Quote from: karl724223 on March 22, 2023, 06:55:05 PMPensnett hasn't
I don't believe Wolverhampton has either
Quote from: Tony on March 22, 2023, 07:06:44 PMI don't believe Wolverhampton has either
West Bromwich hasn't to
Seens ro be a people's again in coventry getting to the point pople are going to snap with only the 9,17,20A running
Does anyone know if the buses parked in cox street are fueled and ready for service if so cant they use them as the entrance is on a public road and to stop them would be an arrestable offence
I thought I saw a 68xx on the 17??
Quote from: Tony on March 23, 2023, 06:23:57 PMYou did
Do you know what the fleet number was, I couldn't catch it as I only caught a glimpse of it
Quote from: Danthebusman on March 23, 2023, 06:32:09 PMDo you know what the fleet number was, I couldn't catch it as I only caught a glimpse of it
No. Several vehicles were operated from a factory unit in Coventry to avoid the problem of the blocked entrance. I've no idea which of these you saw
Buses look to be running a lot smoother today after the pay offer
Looks to be usual Sunday service today
Quote from: Danthebusman on March 26, 2023, 08:29:02 AMLooks to be usual Sunday service today
From what I've seen not quite true. 20A's are running hourly
Quote from: Dennis Dart Plaxton Pointer on March 26, 2023, 09:50:04 AMFrom what I've seen not quite true. 20A's are running hourly
I presume you are sat at home watching Bustimes.
All 20 running boards are on the road, but 20D-01 is E076 which doesn't track
This 9/17 interworking is still causing a lot of confusion amongst the drivers, just seen E077 meant to be operating the 10:00 17 to Fenside, but instead is going the 9s line of route with 9 to Green Lane displayed https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tcvw-e077?date=2023-04-02#journeys/407871044
Same happened with E042 meant to be doing the 08:30 17A to Fenside but instead did the 9 https://bustimes.org/services/17a-fenside-university-hospital-via-coventry/vehicles?date=2023-04-02#journeys/407850917
Quote from: Danthebusman on April 02, 2023, 10:40:39 AMThis 9/17 interworking is still causing a lot of confusion amongst the drivers,
It's also happening on the 20/20A (https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tcvw-e036?date=2023-04-02#journeys/407994945)! :rolleyes: and they've been interworking Eves/Suns for many years.
4770 out on the 18 for the first time in 2 months
it appears the 17 doesn't go down Britannia St anymore and instead follows Paynes Lane, turning onto Sky Blue Way, then onto Walsgrave Road and normal line of route. Not sure if this temporary because of the road works or permanent but can guarantee them speed bumps aren't the best for the suspension
Quote from: Danthebusman on April 15, 2023, 01:44:08 PMit appears the 17 doesn't go down Britannia St anymore and instead follows Paynes Lane, turning onto Sky Blue Way, then onto Walsgrave Road and normal line of route. Not sure if this temporary because of the road works or permanent but can guarantee them speed bumps aren't the best for the suspension
Temporary its on the website :)
Noticed today the 15 and 16 interwork on weekdays
Saw a Cov electric in Brum city centre transporting some very businessy looking people.
Anyone noticed that most of the original double deckers have had the front name removed
Quote from: Danthebusman on May 03, 2023, 09:40:31 AME054 - X30
I'm not sure that EVs can be considered 'noteworthy' now, they'll pretty much be used on any route where double-decks can be used.
The current 4 year contract for the X30 service is coming to it's natural end next month and Bustimes confirms (https://bustimes.org/registrations/PD0001111/796) NXC intend their last day of operation on Friday 2 June, as yet I haven't seen any word of continuation with another provider/service.
Quote from: JPC on May 06, 2023, 10:32:48 AMThe current 4 year contract for the X30 service is coming to it's natural end next month and Bustimes confirms (https://bustimes.org/registrations/PD0001111/796) NXC intend their last day of operation on Friday 2 June, as yet I haven't seen any word of continuation with another provider/service.
Presumably Ansty Park are no longer willing to fund the service if not enough workers are using it, therefore it may not be replaced.
4450 and 4664 both out tonight for evening/night boards on the 6/A and 12X respectively
Is the 15 every 15 minutes like the timetable says or is it every 30 minutes like the electric timetable says?
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on May 11, 2023, 09:38:45 AMIs the 15 every 15 minutes like the timetable says or is it every 30 minutes like the electric timetable says?
every 15 minutes
4450, 4451, 4454 and 4674 have all lost their rear trade centre uk adverts
Quote from: Danthebusman on May 13, 2023, 10:10:04 AM4450, 4451, 4454 and 4674 have all lost their rear trade centre uk adverts
Perhaps due for withdrawal shortly......
Quote from: markcf83 on May 13, 2023, 01:58:45 PMPerhaps due for withdrawal shortly......
Wouldn't bother having adverts removed if they were about to come off the road, although they probably have only got 5-6 weeks left
One thing about the X30 which I thought was strange was the routing via Clifford Bridge Rd and the A46, instead of going straight up Hinckley Road.
I take it there is no thought about extending the 8 to Ansty Park at the appropriate peak hours this could offer a 20 minute frequency with just '1 bus', In a similar vein I was hoping at some point in the future when a proposed replacement junction on the A46 near to the rear of UHCW is completed that the 9 could perhaps extend to Ansty Park maintaining a 'direct' link to Cov Rail Station.
There is also a possibility (and
@Sandy Lane might shoot me down for this) for the 85 to go via Hinckley Road and Ansty Park on the way to Brinklow, but this natually means Clifford Bridge Road, Brinklow Road and Coombe Abbey would lose out.
I guess being replaced with nothing apart from 'on demand' is the ultimate plan here (and wherever else going forward).
Quote from: Stu on May 06, 2023, 11:11:11 AMPresumably Ansty Park are no longer willing to fund the service if not enough workers are using it, therefore it may not be replaced.
Quote from: JPC on May 14, 2023, 02:00:17 PMOne thing about the X30 which I thought was strange was the routing via Clifford Bridge Rd and the A46, instead of going straight up Hinckley Road.
I take it there is no thought about extending the 8 to Ansty Park at the appropriate peak hours this could offer a 20 minute frequency with just '1 bus', In a similar vein I was hoping at some point in the future when a proposed replacement junction on the A46 near to the rear of UHCW is completed that the 9 could perhaps extend to Ansty Park maintaining a 'direct' link to Cov Rail Station.
There is also a possibility (and @Sandy Lane might shoot me down for this) for the 85 to go via Hinckley Road and Ansty Park on the way to Brinklow, but this natually means Clifford Bridge Road, Brinklow Road and Coombe Abbey would lose out.
I guess being replaced with nothing apart from 'on demand' is the ultimate plan here (and wherever else going forward).
Interesting situation for those living nr Clifford Bridge Rd 'CBR'. The X30 is the last of a few direct services that called at the rail station - if this goes I guess the locals will go on the war path with TfWM. Another reason for going along CBR was to get local people to Ansty business park as it is nearby and walking is awkward if not dangerous.
Wonder if Diamond would give it another go? One for Simon to consider? Noted that NXC struggled with the timings that Diamond ran to so NXC
reduced the timetable.
I think the CBR locals may have asked for the 85 to run through to the rail station and city centre shops again like it used to with DeCourcey? NXC terminate the 85 today at the far end of Pool Meadow - so not that close to the shops and again timetable hacked back to hourly.
I bet the CBR locals will want to continue to have a direct service to the rail station. One for TFWM to sort PDQ before Coventry declares war on to geographically remote TfWM. How about a new service from the hospital to the rail station via full length of CBR, Binley Rd, Sky Blue Way, Gosford St, via Severn Trent building/Council House, New Union St, Warwick Rd and rail station? Needs to be 30 min Freq. Why not take vehicles off the very frequent 13 service?
Quote from: Sandy Lane on May 14, 2023, 08:36:28 PMHow about a new service from the hospital to the rail station via full length of CBR, Binley Rd, Sky Blue Way, Gosford St, via Severn Trent building/Council House, New Union St, Warwick Rd and rail station? Needs to be 30 min Freq. Why not take vehicles off the very frequent 13 service?
Maybe that would take vehicles off a service people use and put them on a service that people probably wouldn't use.
I expect it probably is very frequent for a reason.
Also you can always change at Pool Meadow for the 11 service anyway for the railway station.
Quote from: Sandy Lane on May 14, 2023, 08:36:28 PMInteresting situation for those living nr Clifford Bridge Rd 'CBR'. The X30 is the last of a few direct services that called at the rail station - if this goes I guess the locals will go on the war path with TfWM. Another reason for going along CBR was to get local people to Ansty business park as it is nearby and walking is awkward if not dangerous.
Wonder if Diamond would give it another go? One for Simon to consider? Noted that NXC struggled with the timings that Diamond ran to so NXC
reduced the timetable.
I think the CBR locals may have asked for the 85 to run through to the rail station and city centre shops again like it used to with DeCourcey? NXC terminate the 85 today at the far end of Pool Meadow - so not that close to the shops and again timetable hacked back to hourly.
I bet the CBR locals will want to continue to have a direct service to the rail station. One for TFWM to sort PDQ before Coventry declares war on to geographically remote TfWM. How about a new service from the hospital to the rail station via full length of CBR, Binley Rd, Sky Blue Way, Gosford St, via Severn Trent building/Council House, New Union St, Warwick Rd and rail station? Needs to be 30 min Freq. Why not take vehicles off the very frequent 13 service?
What makes you think another operator would have a go at the X30 commercially when it was a tendered service finishing at the end of the tender?
NXC didn't reduce the timetable, then ran to the times of the tender, similarly NXC haven't 'hacked' the 85, they are running to the times in the tender award
Just reflecting the way the locals seem to see the situ as the bus has the NXC logo on it.
I see people are complaining about the reliability of the 2 again and the many late/ missed trips many emails to the company/ tfwm and mps yet nothing seems to be resolved
Quote from: Sandy Lane on May 14, 2023, 09:06:20 PMJust reflecting the way the locals seem to see the situ as the bus has the NXC logo on it.
More like expressing your own opinion, nothing wrong with that at all, but at least get facts correct. Similarly you state NXC terminate the 85 at the far end of Pool Meadow. No NXC don't
If Coventry get promoted to the premier league is there a possibility of the company naming a bus after the manager?
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on May 27, 2023, 08:42:35 AMIf Coventry get promoted to the premier league is there a possibility of the company naming a bus after the manager?
Well maybe they could name one after Luton manager and former Villa and Wolves player Rob Edwards instead...
UID BX54??? Gemini heading down the A14 to wards A1/M11 this afternoon
Quote from: Mayfield on June 01, 2023, 06:49:58 PMUID BX54??? Gemini heading down the A14 to wards A1/M11 this afternoon
potentially 4671
Quote from: JPC on May 06, 2023, 10:32:48 AMThe current 4 year contract for the X30 service is coming to it's natural end next month and Bustimes confirms (https://bustimes.org/registrations/PD0001111/796) NXC intend their last day of operation on Friday 2 June, as yet I haven't seen any word of continuation with another provider/service.
It would appear that NXC will continue to operate the X30, a new registration was received yesterday:
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/610810/
Do you think they may be putting a route change in as Clifford Bridge Road is going to be subject to a lot of roadworks soon when they start to construct the bypass of that roundabout?
E120 hs entered service today, but not tracking on Bustimes
I have noticed recently that the 9:24, 12:06 and 14:54 17/As to the hospital have a bus swap to do the 10:24, 13:09 and 15:54 to fenside respectively. is there any particular reason for this?
Quote from: Danthebusman on June 07, 2023, 01:20:32 PMI have noticed recently that the 9:24, 12:06 and 14:54 17/As to the hospital have a bus swap to do the 10:24, 13:09 and 15:54 to fenside respectively. is there any particular reason for this?
Not sure what you are referring to, so cannot answer.
2154 has operated the 09:24 today and is doing exatly as scheduled (07:24; 09:24 & 11:24)
Quote from: Tony on June 07, 2023, 01:33:35 PMNot sure what you are referring to, so cannot answer.
2154 has operated the 09:24 today and is doing exatly as scheduled (07:24; 09:24 & 11:24)
apologies, should have gave example like below
so today, 2156 operated the 09:24 17 to University Hospital https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tcvw-cv-2156?date=2023-06-07 then 2173 took over to do the 10:24 17A to Fenside https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tcvw-cv-2173?date=2023-06-07
Quote from: Danthebusman on June 07, 2023, 02:19:36 PMapologies, should have gave example like below
so today, 2156 operated the 09:24 17 to University Hospital https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tcvw-cv-2156?date=2023-06-07 then 2173 took over to do the 10:24 17A to Fenside https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tcvw-cv-2173?date=2023-06-07
All operating as per running boards
Quote from: Danthebusman on June 07, 2023, 01:20:32 PMI have noticed recently that the 9:24, 12:06 and 14:54 17/As to the hospital have a bus swap to do the 10:24, 13:09 and 15:54 to fenside respectively. is there any particular reason for this?
The split in what was three all day boards (6am-midnight) occurred from 23rd April, the reason I suppose is so electric buses can be (eventually) used - as the batteries will not last 18 hours.
Quote from: JPC on June 07, 2023, 07:10:41 PMThe split in what was three all day boards (6am-midnight) occurred from 23rd April, the reason I suppose is so electric buses can be (eventually) used - as the batteries will not last 18 hours.
yeah that's what i was thinking
Quote from: ellspurs on June 09, 2023, 04:26:48 PMOut of interest, where is the low bridge(s) on the 24/25 route? I was sure I had covered that area in my old 13' 6" truck and I don't recall having any problems with bridges except the one in Long Lawton which the stagecoach 86 serves.
Is it more that they tend to use the short singles because of (1) the expected load and (2) the tightness of some of those Warwickshire villages (namely Frankton)?
The 25 has a bridge (former Rugby to Leamington rail line) (https://goo.gl/maps/28H9RVQbc6wckPty8) between the villages of Birdingbury and Frankton with a clearance of 3.5m / 11' 6"
Does anyone know if the 6/6a/18 are still doing this
Spon End TTL
Tuesday 23rd May until further notice
Due to excessive delays caused by the Air Quality Scheme works in Spon End the following diversions will be in place
From Tuesday 23rd May until further notice
Services 6/6A and 18/18A, in both directions, will divert via Albany Road and Earlsdon Avenue North
Bus stops on Butts Road, Spon End and Hearsall Lane will not be served.
As the buses are going back the old way and are spending ages in traffic iv asked on facebook and twitter but not had a reply I know there's management that use this so was hoping they could have a look :)
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on June 12, 2023, 08:56:01 AMDoes anyone know if the 6/6a/18 are still doing this
Spon End TTL
Tuesday 23rd May until further notice
Due to excessive delays caused by the Air Quality Scheme works in Spon End the following diversions will be in place
From Tuesday 23rd May until further notice
Services 6/6A and 18/18A, in both directions, will divert via Albany Road and Earlsdon Avenue North
Bus stops on Butts Road, Spon End and Hearsall Lane will not be served.
As the buses are going back the old way and are spending ages in traffic iv asked on facebook and twitter but not had a reply I know there's management that use this so was hoping they could have a look :)
having a look on bustimes, most 6s and 18s are still following the diversion but ultimately it's up to the drivers which way they go unless they've been told they have to follow the diversion or normal line of route
Quote from: Danthebusman on June 12, 2023, 10:09:25 AMhaving a look on bustimes, most 6s and 18s are still following the diversion but ultimately it's up to the drivers which way they go unless they've been told they have to follow the diversion or normal line of route
They put a call over the radio to tell drivers to use the diversion
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on June 12, 2023, 08:56:01 AMDoes anyone know if the 6/6a/18 are still doing this
Spon End TTL
Tuesday 23rd May until further notice
Due to excessive delays caused by the Air Quality Scheme works in Spon End the following diversions will be in place
From Tuesday 23rd May until further notice
Services 6/6A and 18/18A, in both directions, will divert via Albany Road and Earlsdon Avenue North
Bus stops on Butts Road, Spon End and Hearsall Lane will not be served.
As the buses are going back the old way and are spending ages in traffic iv asked on facebook and twitter but not had a reply I know there's management that use this so was hoping they could have a look :)
We were told to go normal route but due to traffic delay we were told about 8ish to go back through Earlsdon
Quote from: Dennis Dart Plaxton Pointer on June 12, 2023, 01:23:45 PMWe were told to go normal route but due to traffic delay we were told about 8ish to go back through Earlsdon
I was on the 8:30 6a to town spent about 30ish minutes going through
Any idea if planing have decided to put it back on?
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on June 12, 2023, 01:28:41 PMI was on the 8:30 6a to town spent about 30ish minutes going through
Any idea if planing have decided to put it back on?
Diversion is back on. I was 20 minutes delayed this morning coming through Spon end into town. By the time I just got back through to go to Tanyard they said do the diversion again. What's made the traffic so bad is they've changed the traffic lights so they take even longer to change. Saturday I had 4 hours on the 6 and not once did I be on time. I was ontime once and by the time I got to Spon end I was late again
Quote from: Dennis Dart Plaxton Pointer on June 12, 2023, 01:50:55 PMDiversion is back on. I was 20 minutes delayed this morning coming through Spon end into town. By the time I just got back through to go to Tanyard they said do the diversion again. What's made the traffic so bad is they've changed the traffic lights so they take even longer to change. Saturday I had 4 hours on the 6 and not once did I be on time. I was ontime once and by the time I got to Spon end I was late again
yes have noticed the 6s are very unreliable at the moment, but that's not you guys' faults, all these roadworks with unnecessarily long traffic lights are to blame
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on May 27, 2023, 08:42:35 AMIf Coventry get promoted to the premier league is there a possibility of the company naming a bus after the manager?
Why not-they were a missed penalty away last month.......
I followed a 6a through the diversion route at around midday going towards the city centre. There was a random second set of traffic lights on Butts Road (I guess a pedestrian one?) which was causing the traffic from Albany Road to hang over the junction which could've caused the Butts Road traffic to not be able to proceed when the lights went green.
4674 still tracking in garage even though it's withdrawn?
Quote from: Danthebusman on June 14, 2023, 07:50:28 AM4674 still tracking in garage on bustimes, even though it's withdrawn?
Any suggestions for locations for photography in and around Coventry please, apart from the City itself, would be welcomed. I'm planning my day on Saturday week which will largely be confined to the Sky Blue City. (I know of a few outside the Centre but others would be very much welcomed)
Quote from: markcf83 on June 14, 2023, 11:31:03 AMAny suggestions for locations for photography in and around Coventry please, apart from the City itself, would be welcomed. I'm planning my day on Saturday week which will largely be confined to the Sky Blue City. (I know of a few outside the Centre but others would be very much welcomed)
kenilworth road is a great location for scenery particularly up near the memorial park
Quote from: JPC on May 06, 2023, 10:32:48 AMThe current 4 year contract for the X30 service is coming to it's natural end next month and Bustimes confirms (https://bustimes.org/registrations/PD0001111/796) NXC intend their last day of operation on Friday 2 June, as yet I haven't seen any word of continuation with another provider/service.
It has been reregistered from 5th June 2023 with NXC according to Vehicle Operator Licensing.
Quote from: Danthebusman on June 14, 2023, 02:41:53 PMkenilworth road is a great location for scenery particularly up near the memorial park
I'll bear it in mind.
E143; E142; E138 have now left WN for CV.
Quote from: BN on June 18, 2023, 08:05:06 AME143; E142; E138 have now left WN for CV.
E096 has gone as well, but currently at BC
If the day saver does goe up to £4.50 what will happen to all the buses that carry the £4 day saver branding is there not a risk removing them will damage the paint work on the buses?
839 first day back out in service today
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on June 19, 2023, 07:57:02 AMIf the day saver does goe up to £4.50 what will happen to all the buses that carry the £4 day saver branding is there not a risk removing them will damage the paint work on the buses?
Probably will be changed to say £4.50
Quote from: 2206 on June 19, 2023, 09:20:26 AMProbably will be changed to say £4.50
It'll be interesting to see if a new sticker is applied over the stop or if route branding will return
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on June 19, 2023, 03:16:13 PMIt'll be interesting to see if a new sticker is applied over the stop or if route branding will return
Standard practise just to put a new sticker over the price, been done many times
The 85/85b/85s service has a amended route and timetable from 24th July (https://bustimes.org/registrations/PD0001111/817).
Looking on Traveline the route maps seems to show 85 and 85b rerouted via Sky Blue Way, Walsgrave Road and Ansty Rd, but the timetable seems to be a copy of the current one (error).
This could mean something else is going to operate the current route between Pool Meadow and UHCW? maybe Stagecoach 51 becoming a full circle, at the moment the 51 doesn't appropriately link Lentons Lane and Walsgrave with the City Centre, a full circle would also offer more sensible timings/headway where it combines with NX service 2.
Quote from: JPC on June 25, 2023, 02:19:37 PMThe 85/85b/85s service has a amended route and timetable from 24th July (https://bustimes.org/registrations/PD0001111/817).
Looking on Traveline the route maps seems to show 85 and 85b rerouted via Sky Blue Way, Walsgrave Road and Ansty Rd, but the timetable seems to be a copy of the current one (error).
This could mean something else is going to operate the current route between Pool Meadow and UHCW? maybe Stagecoach 51 becoming a full circle, at the moment the 51 doesn't appropriately link Lentons Lane and Walsgrave with the City Centre, a full circle would also offer more sensible timings/headway where it combines with NX service 2.
i reckon stagecoach would actually make the 51 a circular route as well. could go from UHCW: Clifford Bridge Road, Belgrave Road, Hipswell Highway, Allard Way, Second Avenue, Weir Way, Brindle Avenue, Binley Road, Sky Blue Way, Gosford Street, Cox Street, Fairfax Street then finally Pool Meadow although i'm not sure what the patronage would be like doing the extra bit back to Pool Meadow but could help people getting from UHCW to town
Quote from: JPC on June 25, 2023, 02:19:37 PMThe 85/85b/85s service has a amended route and timetable from 24th July (https://bustimes.org/registrations/PD0001111/817).
Looking on Traveline the route maps seems to show 85 and 85b rerouted via Sky Blue Way, Walsgrave Road and Ansty Rd, but the timetable seems to be a copy of the current one (error).
This could mean something else is going to operate the current route between Pool Meadow and UHCW? maybe Stagecoach 51 becoming a full circle, at the moment the 51 doesn't appropriately link Lentons Lane and Walsgrave with the City Centre, a full circle would also offer more sensible timings/headway where it combines with NX service 2.
I looked at the map on the NXC website for the 85 and got confused as it was showing the 85a route. Then I remembered it was Sunday, and got confused that NXC was showing the 85a timetable at all since Stagecoach run it. I guess they're changing the route to the 85a route if your description is correct.
The current route is weird in that they send the bus through a newish housing estate (New Century Park), but only put one bus stop at the start of the estate, in one direction. There's no mention of Hail & Ride, and if you're travelling from Coventry, after Binley Road the next listed stop is on Hipswell Highway which is on the opposite side of the road to the estate.
Would there be a possibility of a bus linking tile hill north/ south with the university hospital again
There's the 2/6/6A/14/18/18A that could be extended to make a link again as it will save having to change in pool meadow and make love easier for the people of tile hill
4452 is in its last week this week.
MoT Expiry on Saturday
Quote from: Tony on July 04, 2023, 12:42:57 PM4452 is in its last week this week.
MoT Expiry on Saturday
good thing i booked most of this week off then, will try to ride it one last time, been on it 27 times since 2020, one of the better tridents for sure although it makes a ticking noise when accelerating
Just seen a pic of Facebook of the E citaro leaving cov... could NX be considering an order?? Here's hoping very good looking bus.
Quote from: danny on July 04, 2023, 03:26:50 PMJust seen a pic of Facebook of the E citaro leaving cov... could NX be considering an order?? Here's hoping very good looking bus.
Hope so looks better then the other one they had one loan
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on July 04, 2023, 04:15:58 PMHope so looks better then the other one they had one loan
Must admit do prefer it to the yutong and be nice to have mercs back in the Midlands the 0405s were amazing.
4664 broke down earlier on the 22, i'm aware withdrawals aren't mentioned beforehand but i reckon it's had it after that depending on the severity
Quote from: Danthebusman on July 08, 2023, 11:55:18 AM4664 broke down earlier on the 22, i'm aware withdrawals aren't mentioned beforehand but i reckon it's had it after that depending on the severity
Gearbox issues apparently
has NXC dropped the 3S as it is no longer showing on bustimes?
Quote from: Danthebusman on July 11, 2023, 08:17:25 AMhas NXC dropped the 3S as it is no longer showing on bustimes?
14 has replaced it
Quote from: Dennis Dart Plaxton Pointer on July 11, 2023, 09:31:28 AM14 has replaced it
makes sense although i'm surprised it ran for a year after the 14 was extended (if my memory serves me correctly)
A couple of NXC changes now listed on BusTimes website effective 4th September...
Service 24 : Route revised to operate between Coventry and Kenilworth to an amended timetable. Journeys numbered 24A serve Bubbenhall, 24 omit it.
Service 25 : Changes to timetable and route numbering. Service 25 remains as the main route, 25A serves Bubbenhall and 25X operates predominantly along A45.
Service 85 : Minor changes to timetable
there are also changes from the 24th July for the start of the summer holidays:
14 (https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/services-timetables/14-coventry-university-of-warwick)/14A (https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/services-timetables/14a-coventry-university-of-warwick) - There will be a reduced frequency with better rail connections at Tile Hill Station.
18 (https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/services-timetables/18-coventry-tile-hill-south)/18A (https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/services-timetables/18a-coventry-tile-hill-south-1) - There will be a revised timetable.
21 (https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/services-timetables/21-willenhall-wood-end) - Summer timetable introduced
85 (https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/services-timetables/85-coventry-rugby)/85B (https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/services-timetables/85b-coventry-rugby) - There will be a change to the route of these services between Coventry and University Hospital via Walsgrave Road and Antsy Road with minor changes to the timetable.
yes ansty road is spelt incorrectly on the website
The changed 85 route is good for through passengers, but do we know if the existing route around New Century Park and part of Hipswell Highway will be covered by another service?
They'll just have to walk to the nearest stop, like they've been doing now for New Century Park as there's only one bus stop on there at the top of the road.
On a different note, there was some mumblings that one of the Stagecoach routes were going to cover it but there's no details as of yet on the Stagecoach website.
Quote from: JPC on July 18, 2023, 10:30:59 PMA couple of NXC changes now listed on BusTimes website effective 4th September...
Service 24 : Route revised to operate between Coventry and Kenilworth to an amended timetable. Journeys numbered 24A serve Bubbenhall, 24 omit it.
Service 25 : Changes to timetable and route numbering. Service 25 remains as the main route, 25A serves Bubbenhall and 25X operates predominantly along A45.
Service 85 : Minor changes to timetable
also noticed it says on bustimes that the 24 will be operated by both NXC and NXWM?
Quote from: Danthebusman on July 20, 2023, 08:32:36 AMalso noticed it says on bustimes that the 24 will be operated by both NXC and NXWM?
Could be a mistake on there end
Quote from: Danthebusman on July 20, 2023, 12:23:39 PMit has to be surely
Yes, this has happened before with the 11 to Leamington Spa put in the NXWM list and should be corrected in a future update.
Diverting the 85 was a cheap way of covering the former 1 route but I guess any remaining affected passengers will now be directed/fobbed off to on demand services.
The changes to the 24/25 might be a resemblance to the old 539/580 timetable when NXC tookover in 2019 where the odd journey ran direct Stretton to Dunchurch etc.
The link from Kenilworth to Tile Hill was frequently and unhelpfully diverted or chopped due to HS2 construction works - another area for on demand I guess.
I still wonder if there is scope at some point in the future to extend the Stagecoach 88 from Balsall Common covering Berkswell, Carol Green, Tile Hill South terminus, Burton Green to Kenilworth but at the likely expense of reduced frequency or an extra bus.
Quote from: JPC on July 20, 2023, 04:01:42 PMDiverting the 85 was a cheap way of covering the former 1 route but I guess any remaining affected passengers will now be directed/fobbed off to on demand services.
Or take the 13 to Coventry from Binley Road. (closest stop to new centry park it seems). Which has a late evening and frequent daytime service.
I'm surprised that they haven't cut back the 24 from tile hill south as it has about 4 different bus services already
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on July 20, 2023, 04:44:24 PMI'm surprised that they haven't cut back the 24 from tile hill south as it has about 4 different bus services already
The post at the top of this page says that it is listed on bustimes (ie from the data feed) that it is being cut back to Kenilworth from September, likely due to the delays caused by HS2 construction.
only 28 SDs out today so far out of a possible 41 (832 is excluded as in paint) which is really low for a Saturday but i'm not complaining, just found it strange for NXC 🤣
Quote from: Danthebusman on July 22, 2023, 01:40:10 PMonly 28 SDs out today so far out of a possible 41 (832 is excluded as in paint) which is really low for a Saturday but i'm not complaining, just found it strange for NXC 🤣
832 isn't in paint
More chargers were switch on yesterday allowing more electrics to be charged. E146 & E150 should be the next two to enter service
i doubt the 14 and 18 will be interworking after tomorrow with the 14 daytime frequency going to 30 mins and the 18 remaining at 20 mins
Quote from: Danthebusman on July 23, 2023, 04:50:20 PMi doubt the 14 and 18 will be interworking after tomorrow with the 14 daytime frequency going to 30 mins and the 18 remaining at 20 mins
Could the 14 and the 2 inter work
The new 14 timetable is also useless for anyone travelling from Cannon Park shopping centre, nobody will want to be waiting at University of Warwick for 17 minutes. :rolleyes:
Quote from: JPC on July 23, 2023, 05:42:29 PMThe new 14 timetable is also useless for anyone travelling from Cannon Park shopping centre, nobody will want to be waiting at University of Warwick for 17 minutes. :rolleyes:
They won't have to wait that long surely they could get the 11/12x to Coventry
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on July 23, 2023, 05:47:31 PMThey won't have to wait that long surely they could get the 11/12x to Coventry
I was talking about passengers who have Tile Hill Village, Eastern Green etc. as their intended destination, I certainly think the schedulers purposely want a bus service to fail.
Quote from: JPC on July 23, 2023, 05:55:15 PMI was talking about passengers who have Tile Hill Village, Eastern Green etc. as their intended destination, I certainly think the schedulers purposely want a bus service to fail.
That does seem like a bit of a cockup. Why are all journeys labelled 14 going back (avoiding Cannon Park) when the journeys to there that avoid Cannon Park are labelled 14a?
It looks like NXC are making another attempt to dispose of their X30 service with a registration cancellation (https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/613781/) again - I suppose the date is meant to be Mon 4th Sept.
It's not another attempt to dispose of it. It's a tendered service. if you haven't got the results before the registration deadline you deregister it, because you will always get support to put a short notice registration in if you win, but you won't always be allowed a short notice deregistration
Quote from: Tony on July 31, 2023, 02:21:15 PMIt's not another attempt to dispose of it. It's a tendered service. if you haven't got the results before the registration deadline you deregister it, because you will always get support to put a short notice registration in if you win, but you won't always be allowed a short notice deregistration
I suppose that might explain what happened last time, but there ought to be agreed deadlines for tender awards/results ahead of registration deadlines then maybe we won't have a fiasco of operators initially unable to fulfill services to an acceptable level such as Stagecoach at the start of the year because the notice was too short.
4664, the sole gemini here at CV, back out on the 3 today after suffering some electrical problems
20 Branded B7RLE 2169 was in Birmingham City Centre earlier. Saw it while I was on 4924 on the 94 which stopped next to it at the Masshouse Lane lights 11:11am.
Quote from: 2206 on August 03, 2023, 08:27:56 PM20 Branded B7RLE 2169 was in Birmingham City Centre earlier. Saw it while I was on 4924 on the 94 which stopped next to it at the Masshouse Lane lights 11:11am.
I believe Tony said it was getting a refurb
I find it funny how deckers are being used on a route that is getting withdrawn next month (X30) and then you got routes like the 14/17 that have real patronage and get slammed with B7RLEs... it's summer holidays as well, i noticed today 42 BYDs not in use (according to veg times) (I know some of them are VOR/not enough chargers to charge all but surely no more than 10-20 of them) they can use most of them on Saturdays now so why not weekdays too, in my eyes they should be getting used as much as they can, especially if they're the future. As I've said before NX definitely know what they're doing and they will have their reasons for this and I'm just a bus enthusiast, but I guess curiosity got the better of me so if anyone could enlighten me I would appreciate it.
Quote from: Danthebusman on August 09, 2023, 03:10:41 PMI find it funny how deckers are being used on a route that is getting withdrawn next month (X30) and then you got routes like the 14/17 that have real patronage and get slammed with B7RLEs... it's summer holidays as well, i noticed today 42 BYDs not in use (according to veg times) (I know some of them are VOR/not enough chargers to charge all but surely no more than 10-20 of them) they can use most of them on Saturdays now so why not weekdays too, in my eyes they should be getting used as much as they can, especially if they're the future. As I've said before NX definitely know what they're doing and they will have their reasons for this and I'm just a bus enthusiast, but I guess curiosity got the better of me so if anyone could enlighten me I would appreciate it.
Has anyone not been able to get a seat on a B7RLE?
Quote from: Tony on August 09, 2023, 03:23:30 PMHas anyone not been able to get a seat on a B7RLE?
Very rarely during these months I will admit but when the 17 goes on to do the evening 9s they can get pretty full, my friend was at UHCW waiting for the 20A and saw a 17 that turned into a 9 leaving the hospital at 20:01 with a fairly full load of hospital workers to city centre
Says it all! B7RLEs are perfect for the route.
B7RLEs will still be needed in Coventry until 2025 so they are used on the most suitable routes and the running boards are designed for their capabilities so an electric would need to be swapped at some point for recharging
Quote from: Tony on August 09, 2023, 03:23:30 PMHas anyone not been able to get a seat on a B7RLE?
I see someone has already commented in regards to the 17 however I share alternative opinions on the matter.
As a regular user of services 3, 5/5A, 15, 16 I can confirm that more often than not when the B7RLE vehicles are on routes 3, 15 and 16 (peak only) that seats are scarce and I have to stand. Furthermore, my own experiences of these vehicles have given me the reputation that they are distinctively sluggish and slow (only exception is when I travelled on WA8) which only lengthens the period of standing. Whilst I acknowledge that diesel buses must be used in the fleet until 2025 for "smooth" operation (by national express' definition), it cannot be said that the aforementioned routes can tolerate the peak loadings and a fair few off peak as well. Before service 5 went through its sustained decline buses used to be full throughout the day also but this is no longer the case. I don't suppose the running boards have been "adapted" by cutting the routes!
Anyways I can see I will get nowhere by saying this just like the PR public consultations but the allocation of the electric vehicles has brought a welcome "capacity upgrade" despite having official loadings of less than the B7RLEs (which could possibly fit 100 if the people are ants) off the top of my head.
4450 and 4451 on the 6s today.
4451 MoT expiry on 20/8/23
4576 MoT expiry on 24/8/23
Both will be withdrawn on or before those dates so get them while you can
Quote from: Tony on August 11, 2023, 11:45:35 AM4451 MoT expiry on 20/8/23
4576 MoT expiry on 24/8/23
Both will be withdrawn on or before those dates so get them while you can
Duly noted!
Quote from: Danthebusman on August 11, 2023, 12:12:26 PMDuly noted!
From what I was told 4576 got withdrawn today along with 4664
Quote from: Dennis Dart Plaxton Pointer on August 11, 2023, 08:19:22 PMFrom what I was told 4576 got withdrawn today along with 4664
That's a shame, Coventry now devoid of any Gemini 1s, which have operated here for over 15 years, but out with the old and in with the new I guess.
Quote from: Danthebusman on August 11, 2023, 09:00:55 PMThat's a shame, Coventry now devoid of any Gemini 1s, which have operated here for over 15 years, but out with the old and in with the new I guess.
They haven't been continual for 15 years, there was a gap. withdrawing 4664 wasn't mentioned to me by the engineering manager today when we were discussing the fleet, but it is currently poorly with low power so depending what is wrong will decide its fate
I believe there's only 4450 left out of the tridents cv had :(
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on August 16, 2023, 09:20:38 PMI believe there's only 4450 left out of the tridents cv had :(
Correct, there's only 3 E400's, 6 E400 MMC's and the last gemini is going cor scrap tomorrow
New services registered:
41: Radford to Leamington Spa via Parkhill Estate, Eastern Green, Tile Hill South, University of Warwick and Kenilworth. PD0001111/875
42: Keresley Village to University of Warwick via Radford, Little Heath, Willenhall, Green Lane. PD0001111/876
Does anyone know what these routes are?
Quote from: 2206 on August 17, 2023, 10:56:33 PMNew services registered:
41: Radford to Leamington Spa via Parkhill Estate, Eastern Green, Tile Hill South, University of Warwick and Kenilworth. PD0001111/875
42: Keresley Village to University of Warwick via Radford, Little Heath, Willenhall, Green Lane. PD0001111/876
Does anyone know what these routes are?
Could be new uni link bus routes funded by the University of Warwick or nx are being back cross city routes again
Or
The 42 could be a remembered/ routed 16
And the 41 could be the renumbered/ routed 14 or 15
Quote from: 2206 on August 17, 2023, 10:56:33 PMNew services registered:
41: Radford to Leamington Spa via Parkhill Estate, Eastern Green, Tile Hill South, University of Warwick and Kenilworth. PD0001111/875
42: Keresley Village to University of Warwick via Radford, Little Heath, Willenhall, Green Lane. PD0001111/876
Does anyone know what these routes are?
Just a thought - wasn't Stagecoach 60 up for tender? That 42 sounds like a possible extension to Keresley Village although not too sure what route it would take (maybe old de courcey 61)
41 sounds like what was the old de courcey 43. As both numbers seem quite similar, is this the revival of the former outer circle, with a few upgrades?
Would be nice to have a hospital link from tile hill without having to change in town
Maybe extend the 2 or 18 to uhcw
Quote from: 2206 on August 17, 2023, 10:56:33 PMNew services registered:
41: Radford to Leamington Spa via Parkhill Estate, Eastern Green, Tile Hill South, University of Warwick and Kenilworth. PD0001111/875
42: Keresley Village to University of Warwick via Radford, Little Heath, Willenhall, Green Lane. PD0001111/876
Does anyone know what these routes are?
A new bus going to Parkhill Estate. The x1 has been doing that by itself since the old, old 6 was withdrawn, I think? Or possibly a precursor for the new estate that's being built in Eastern Green (although it'd be a bit early to start sending buses there).
Quote from: ellspurs on August 18, 2023, 03:32:30 PMA new bus going to Parkhill Estate. The x1 has been doing that by itself since the old, old 6 was withdrawn, I think? Or possibly a precursor for the new estate that's being built in Eastern Green (although it'd be a bit early to start sending buses there).
Could be to cover some streets the x1 doesn't cover
Parkhill only has the one main road that isn't a cul-de-sac. The x1 turns around at the shop. This new bus hopefully should be traversing the length of the road (sorry, the 54 school bus currently does this), and hopefully they'll install some bus stops along there so people know a scheduled bus is using the road.
Quote from: ellspurs on August 18, 2023, 05:31:59 PMParkhill only has the one main road that isn't a cul-de-sac. The x1 turns around at the shop. This new bus hopefully should be traversing the length of the road (sorry, the 54 school bus currently does this), and hopefully they'll install some bus stops along there so people know a scheduled bus is using the road.
I wouldn't hold my breath about the stops. 1/51 have been going down Glendower Avenue and using it as a driver discretion hail and ride section for nearly 2 years now.
Either way, a welcome addition to the Coventry network after the western half of the outer circle was withdrawn in March 2020.
Quote from: stellasteve on August 18, 2023, 06:09:13 PMI wouldn't hold my breath about the stops. 1/51 have been going down Glendower Avenue and using it as a driver discretion hail and ride section for nearly 2 years now.
Either way, a welcome addition to the Coventry network after the western half of the outer circle was withdrawn in March 2020.
Yup, the 85 had been going through the New Hall Estate and they put exactly one bus stop on the whole estate. No wonder it no longer
(or will soon no longer be) goes up there.
I guess TfWM will go "but they can request stops if they want one". Most people wouldn't even think that was a thing. They need to mark out routes more effectively, or leaflet the estate going "these roads have a bus on them, it's hail and ride" with the timetable acknowledging this.
Wonder how the 41 timetable will fit in with the existing 11/14 services on the sections between Uni of Warwick and Leamington Spa/Eastern Green. What would the frequency on that section look like?
Possibly running as the 11 to Uni Of Warwick then as the 14 to Parkhill Estate, not sure which way it might go to Radford from there?
Quote from: 2206 on August 18, 2023, 07:26:06 PMWonder how the 41 timetable will fit in with the existing 11/14 services on the sections between Uni of Warwick and Leamington Spa/Eastern Green. What would the frequency on that section look like?
Possibly running as the 11 to Uni Of Warwick then as the 14 to Parkhill Estate, not sure which way it might go to Radford from there?
Could it be that we will lose the 14/ 5 and the 41 is there replacements
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on August 18, 2023, 07:35:28 PMCould it be that we will lose the 14/ 5 and the 41 is there replacements
Couldn't imagine so as the 13 & 21 is moving onto B rota from the 3rd which the 5 & 7 are on which everyone on the 13 & 21's is having to learn
Perhaps it might be prudent to wait for any official announcement or communication?
For all we know, these might just be school/works services that only operate once or twice a day.
Quote from: 2206 on August 18, 2023, 07:26:06 PMWonder how the 41 timetable will fit in with the existing 11/14 services on the sections between Uni of Warwick and Leamington Spa/Eastern Green. What would the frequency on that section look like?
Possibly running as the 11 to Uni Of Warwick then as the 14 to Parkhill Estate, not sure which way it might go to Radford from there?
Ill take a purely speculative stab - X1 as far as Grayswood Avenue/Kingsbury Road, left up on the 51 through Coundon then to wherever the Radford terminus is - rather amiguous as Radford could be defined as Jubilee Crescent, Old Shepherd or even the end of Burnaby Road where the 5 used to terminate on Sundays.
I wonder when these changes will be confirmed/denied on the NX Website considering September isn't far away at all now.
Quote from: Danthebusman on August 19, 2023, 12:43:28 PMI wonder when these changes will be confirmed/denied on the NX Website considering September isn't far away at all now.
If true I would guess anytime in the next 2/3 weeks then it'll take TFWM about 2-3 years to put in new bus stops/ signs
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on August 19, 2023, 12:58:41 PMIf true I would guess anytime in the next 2/3 weeks then it'll take TFWM about 2-3 years to put in new bus stops/ signs
Come on, you're being a bit optimistic there!
It says that they both start on September the 25th according to this website
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/614744/
Coventry is 100% electric today for the first time
Quote from: Tony on August 20, 2023, 10:53:53 AMCoventry is 100% electric today for the first time
Do the services operated by E200 and B7 not operate on sundays? And if they do, is there anything preventing these services being operated by the BYD E400 during the week?
Quote from: Gareth on August 20, 2023, 11:06:26 AMDo the services operated by E200 and B7 not operate on sundays? And if they do, is there anything preventing these services being operated by the BYD E400 during the week?
The 20b doesn't run on Sundays, all other normally single deck services can be run by double decks
Quote from: Tony on August 20, 2023, 11:15:33 AMThe 20b doesn't run on Sundays, all other normally single deck services can be run by double decks
Good to hear, noticed 8 deckers on the 17 yesterday (so 100% electric as PVR for daytime is 8).
Not to be the one to dampen the mood, but 6953 is out in Pool Meadow currently and I assume it is the same E400MMC that passed the railway station at around quarter to 2.
Quote from: stellasteve on August 20, 2023, 02:23:52 PMNot to be the one to dampen the mood, but 6953 is out in Pool Meadow currently and I assume it is the same E400MMC that passed the railway station at around quarter to 2.
Not in service though.
6953 and 7540 are both on contract work for the 'Blind Games'
As of today, and purely going by what's listed on BusTimes, this is what I currently have at Coventry:
| BYD ADL Enviro400EV | 116 |
| Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse 2 | 27 |
| ADL Enviro200 | 13 |
| ADL Enviro400 MMC | 6 |
| ADL Enviro400 | 2 |
| Dennis Trident Alexander ALX400 | 1 |
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The Trident will be off this week.
One E400 is at Miller Street for engine work, the other should head to BC next week, two E400MMCs are on Blind games contract, but it's possible all 6 will be gone this week along with a couple of E200s and some B7RLEs.
It's seems the 41/42 will be one journey in one direction, M-F only.
So I take its a work service
Just one diesel double deck in service today so far - 6952
Does anyone know why @nxcoventry on twitter keep saying the 5 when it no longer goes to tile hill south,
Would have thought that they know what routes go where
https://x.com/nxcoventry/status/1693551999285891561?s=46
Seems strange a brand new route starting that only runs in one direction? So anyone who used these services would have to take a different route returning back? Wonder what time of day they will run at?
Quote from: 2206 on August 22, 2023, 10:20:30 AMSeems strange a brand new route starting that only runs in one direction? So anyone who used these services would have to take a different route returning back? Wonder what time of day they will run at?
Unless it's a mistake
I guess midnight or early morning/ evening
I see the 24 will no longer serve tile hill from the 4th makes sense with all the HS2 works going on
So is it possible the 85,2,19 & 85B to be fully electric? I see E042 is on the 85B currently so it shouldn't be an issue right?
Quote from: BBS on August 23, 2023, 10:57:22 AMSo is it possible the 85,2,19 & 85B to be fully electric? I see E042 is on the 85B currently so it shouldn't be an issue right?
I believe all bus routes in/ to Coventry are going to be electric or zero emissions by 2025
When I was on 4906 on the 94 earlier today heading into the City. It passed a Coventry electric by what used to be the old sportsman pub heading out of the City and then down the Heartlands Parkway at 12:24.
E145 I think.
Quote from: 2206 on August 23, 2023, 10:26:01 PMWhen I was on 4906 on the 94 earlier today heading into the City. It passed a Coventry electric by what used to be the old sportsman pub heading out of the City and then down the Heartlands Parkway at 12:24.
E145 I think.
Yes, collected from BC when 2173 was taken to AG
Would NXC consider donating the last blue non electric bus (presumably a single decker) to the Coventry
transport museum like their predecessor did in 1979 with the last open platform bus ? (anyone remember
Daimler CVG6 333Y - 333CRW ?)
Quote from: sandboy20 on September 02, 2023, 02:09:07 PMWould NXC consider donating the last blue non electric bus (presumably a single decker) to the Coventry
transport museum like their predecessor did in 1979 with the last open platform bus ? (anyone remember
Daimler CVG6 333Y - 333CRW ?)
Unlike the last halfcab, there's still quite a bit of life left in the Volvo B7s.
Just noticed today that the 18 now interworks with the 11 and 12X.
Can anyone tell me if E104 and E127 are/will be in service from Coventry soon? thanks
17/A is now operated predominantly by BYDs, used to be a B7RLE route
I missed it when it happened, but the x30 has been re-registered by NXC and is still operating.
Quote from: ellspurs on September 16, 2023, 02:20:29 PMI missed it when it happened, but the x30 has been re-registered by NXC and is still operating.
Yes, looks like contract was re-awarded again.
https://bustimes.org/registrations/PD0001111/877
May have missed it, what is Coventry loosing for the x1 if anything.
Quote from: Owen on September 16, 2023, 03:12:29 PMMay have missed it, what is Coventry loosing for the x1 if anything.
Don't have to lose anything. Presumably they have the capacity and enough vehicles now all the electrics have been delivered.
E021 has a new nBus rear advert
You mean mega rear (Maga is an American political cult.....)
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on September 18, 2023, 06:25:45 PMMaga rear?
So NX have posted about the changes to the X1, but nothing about the 2 and 19 yet. Also are the changes to the 2 and 19 from the 22nd or 29th October, if either?
Quote from: Danthebusman on October 15, 2023, 12:32:36 PMSo NX have posted about the changes to the X1, but nothing about the 2 and 19 yet. Also are the changes to the 2 and 19 from the 22nd or 29th October, if either?
5th November.
Quote from: Danthebusman on October 15, 2023, 12:32:36 PMSo NX have posted about the changes to the X1, but nothing about the 2 and 19 yet. Also are the changes to the 2 and 19 from the 22nd or 29th October, if either?
I'll be surprised if the 19 is changed after the backlash it has risen in local groups
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on October 15, 2023, 01:05:13 PMI'll be surprised if the 19 is changed after the backlash it has risen in local groups
I guess we will find out if it has had an effect.
I hear that E127 has been subject to a catastrophic fire and is completely burnt out
where did this happen???
It's didn't happen.
Looks like whoever told you that has just invented their own reason for it not tracking on Bustimes. It's currently being driven around Coventry garage but is marked as fit for service so no doubt out later
E127 is currently in service, just on the bus stops in Trinity Street
Just seen this
• The 2 and 2A timetable will change and buses will no longer serve Earlsdon. During peak daytime hours the route will extend from Tile Hill to Westwood Business Park and during off-peak daytime hours it will extend to Cannon Hill Shops. The 2B service will continue to serve Earlsdon.
• The timetable for 7/7B service will be revised, along with the Sunday timetables for the 6/6A and the 15 service.
• Service 19 between Westwood Business Park, Tile Hill and Coventry city centre will no longer operate. It will be partially replaced by service 2 between Cannon Park, Tile Hill and the city centre and Westwood Business Park will be served by service 2 and 18A at peak times. Other parts of the 19 route are served by the 11, 12X and the 18.
• A new service 51 will begin operating on Sunday only between Coventry city centre, Earlsdon, Hearsall Common and Coundon.
• The 54 service will no longer serve Coventry city centre and will instead start and finish at Spon End. Customers can use service 6 to travel between the city centre, Tile Hill and West Coventry Academy.
Have nx won the Sunday 51?
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on October 16, 2023, 05:07:39 PMJust seen this
• The 2 and 2A timetable will change and buses will no longer serve Earlsdon. During peak daytime hours the route will extend from Tile Hill to Westwood Business Park and during off-peak daytime hours it will extend to Cannon Hill Shops. The 2B service will continue to serve Earlsdon.
• The timetable for 7/7B service will be revised, along with the Sunday timetables for the 6/6A and the 15 service.
• Service 19 between Westwood Business Park, Tile Hill and Coventry city centre will no longer operate. It will be partially replaced by service 2 between Cannon Park, Tile Hill and the city centre and Westwood Business Park will be served by service 2 and 18A at peak times. Other parts of the 19 route are served by the 11, 12X and the 18.
• A new service 51 will begin operating on Sunday only between Coventry city centre, Earlsdon, Hearsall Common and Coundon.
• The 54 service will no longer serve Coventry city centre and will instead start and finish at Spon End. Customers can use service 6 to travel between the city centre, Tile Hill and West Coventry Academy.
Have nx won the Sunday 51?
NX have retained the Sunday 2 service you could say but extended to Coundon and re-numbered 51 to match the Stagecoach route, perhaps utilising Cedars island to turnaround like the previous 1 service.
Cannon Hill Shops [hopefully not a typo for Cannon Park Shops] seems a strange place to terminate the 2 but it perhaps loops Cannon Park Rd and A45 back to Charter Ave, the route between Tile Hill South and Westwood/Cannon Park remains unclear - either Charter Ave or Westwood Heath Road?.
The Sunday 6/6A and 15 are probably being interworked to improve reliability.
Looks like nx have won the 51 route from stagecoach
https://www.tfwm.org.uk/media/hndfbxtk/n-ps-12-10-23.pdf
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on October 19, 2023, 12:39:11 PMLooks like nx have won the 51 route from stagecoach
https://www.tfwm.org.uk/media/hndfbxtk/n-ps-12-10-23.pdf
Looks like it will be ran by NX from November as expiry date is 31/10/2023.
Quote from: Danthebusman on October 19, 2023, 02:41:44 PMLooks like it will be ran by NX from November as expiry date is 31/10/2023.
Could be why there's a new Sunday service
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on October 19, 2023, 04:26:27 PMCould be why there's a new Sunday service
Personally, I've never been on the 51 or seen much of it but it must have decent patronage, especially given it goes through so many areas and has so many possible links, to have NX potentially run a full 7-day service.
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on October 19, 2023, 12:39:11 PMLooks like nx have won the 51 route from stagecoach
https://www.tfwm.org.uk/media/hndfbxtk/n-ps-12-10-23.pdf
Quote from: Danthebusman on October 19, 2023, 02:41:44 PMLooks like it will be ran by NX from November as expiry date is 31/10/2023.
Like yourselves I'm still trying to figure out what is going to happen in just over two weeks time...
However I don't believe Stagecoach have lost their 51 for now, yes NX have registered a "new" 51 but this is just the aforementioned Sunday journeys, plus the registration does hint service on weekdays which could just be short journeys to Earlsdon (numbered 2B?) replacing the service 2 which is rerouted via Spon End.
That expiry date you've seen is just for the operator's discs, all registrations across one operator will show the same date (which I expect will be renewed in due course).
From the 5th it seems the last number 2 Coventry to cannon park on a weekday will be 13:57 And from cannon park to Coventry will be 14:32 anyone know of this is a mistake on the timetable or if it's true
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on October 23, 2023, 09:29:08 PMFrom the 5th it seems the last number 2 Coventry to cannon park on a weekday will be 13:57 And from cannon park to Coventry will be 14:32 anyone know of this is a mistake on the timetable or if it's true
The previously mentioned peak time journeys to Westwood Business Park operate as service number 2A probably.
Doesn't look like the 2A timetable has been released yet.
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on October 23, 2023, 09:29:08 PMFrom the 5th it seems the last number 2 Coventry to cannon park on a weekday will be 13:57 And from cannon park to Coventry will be 14:32 anyone know of this is a mistake on the timetable or if it's true
Where is the time table showing that?
Quote from: 2206 on October 23, 2023, 09:36:39 PMThe previously mentioned peak time journeys to Westwood Business Park operate as service number 2A probably.
Doesn't look like the 2A timetable has been released yet.
Click HERE (https://timetables-embed.nxbus.co.uk/CVAO002A/2023-11-06) for the 2A timetable
Click HERE (https://timetables-embed.nxbus.co.uk/CVAO051/2023-11-05) for the Sunday 51 timetable
So it looks like the 2/2A isn't serving Canley Crematorium and Cannon Hill Rd.
Nor any replacement for the 2 through Earlsdon which will have to make do with the hourly 51.
The NXC 51 only runs as far as Chapelfields terminus, not quite Coundon which fair enough already has the 5A.
Is the 6 being extended back to Victoria farm from the 5th
https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/services-timetables/6-coventry-tanyard-farm
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on October 31, 2023, 02:44:18 PMIs the 6 being extended back to Victoria farm from the 5th
https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/services-timetables/6-coventry-tanyard-farm
No, it's interworking with the 15 on Sundays to improve reliability I believe.
Nearly a year later and a couple drivers still forgetting the 9 inter works with the 17s on Sundays. Here's E065 running a 9 instead of the 10:00 17 as it was meant to.
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tcvw-e065#journeys/504943255
Quote from: Danthebusman on November 19, 2023, 10:10:23 AMNearly a year later and a couple drivers still forgetting the 9 inter works with the 17s on Sundays. Here's E065 running a 9 instead of the 10:00 17 as it was meant to.
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tcvw-e065#journeys/504943255
I take it this a case of 'driver in autopilot mode' instead of correctly following the instruction on the running board / ticket machine, though I guess it doesn't help when the bustimes and presumably ticket machine? data says the 17 or 17A goes "to Finham".
Quote from: JPC on November 19, 2023, 11:53:04 AMI take it this a case of 'driver in autopilot mode' instead of correctly following the instruction on the running board / ticket machine, though I guess it doesn't help when the bustimes and presumably ticket machine? data says the 17 or 17A goes "to Finham".
What probably also doesn't help is the first timing point is the same as the 9 being Burns Road, I don't know if the drivers board states all the stops they stop at on a trip or just timing points, but I would hazard a guess that it's just timing points.
E34 and 10 others are getting an all over add applied to them
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on December 08, 2023, 11:17:51 AME34 and 10 others are getting an all over add applied to them
9 others
It seems the x30 has been cancelled from the 4th of January according to the government website
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on December 08, 2023, 04:21:43 PMIt seems the x30 has been cancelled from the 4th of January according to the government website
It gets 'cancelled' every time the contract comes up for renewal.
Quote from: Stu on December 08, 2023, 05:54:06 PMIt gets 'cancelled' every time the contract comes up for renewal.
Yes, It seem NXC keeps agreeing to short term extensions with all operators not willing to bid.
Is there implications or reluctance from other operators in regard to ticketing with Ansty Park apparently being outside the nBus, Network and PlusBus zones?.
Stagecoach could cover the route by extending the X17 from the City to Ansty Park which may reduce the overall mileage and be more reliable.
Quote from: JPC on December 08, 2023, 06:44:24 PMYes, It seem NXC keeps agreeing to short term extensions with all operators not willing to bid.
Is there implications or reluctance from other operators in regard to ticketing with Ansty Park apparently being outside the nBus, Network and PlusBus zones?.
Stagecoach could cover the route by extending the X17 from the City to Ansty Park which may reduce the overall mileage and be more reliable.
There's no bidding as such like a Tender as it's a private contract issued by Ansty Park themselves.
Quote from: JPC on December 08, 2023, 06:44:24 PMYes, It seem NXC keeps agreeing to short term extensions with all operators not willing to bid.
Is there implications or reluctance from other operators in regard to ticketing with Ansty Park apparently being outside the nBus, Network and PlusBus zones?.
Stagecoach could cover the route by extending the X17 from the City to Ansty Park which may reduce the overall mileage and be more reliable.
Diamond used to run the X30 at the original 1/2 hr frequency and really struggled to keep the timings due to traffic in the peaks. Didn't TfWM then accept that timetable adjustment had to happen. Then NXC took over the route and even today NXC gets caught up in traffic.
If the X17 gets dragged in to this won't there then be lots of late running to Leamington?
What about trying re-routing to miss some of the traffic jams? Maybe something like = Ansty Park, A46, Clifford Bridge Road, Binley Road, Allard Way, London Road, Ring Road, Railway Station, New Union Street (becomes the only city centre stop), then back onto Ring Road and back on same route to return to Ansty Park.
Someone else can probably come up with a better route than me?
It would be good if a 30 min clock face timetable could be brought back and that the operator is given a better chance to be able to run to timings. I feel TfWM are asking too much from the operators with just 2 buses.
Anyone else agree or have I got it all wrong?
Quote from: JPC on December 08, 2023, 06:44:24 PMYes, It seem NXC keeps agreeing to short term extensions with all operators not willing to bid.
Is there implications or reluctance from other operators in regard to ticketing with Ansty Park apparently being outside the nBus, Network and PlusBus zones?.
Stagecoach could cover the route by extending the X17 from the City to Ansty Park which may reduce the overall mileage and be more reliable.
Would it make sense for something that serves that side of Coventry to serve it rather than the X17. An extension to some number 8 journeys maybe?
Or if its not that well used could it be scrapped completely?
QuoteWould it make sense for something that serves that side of Coventry to serve it rather than the X17. An extension to some number 8 journeys maybe?
Or if its not that well used could it be scrapped completely?
Or maybe 7 journeys to ansty park at a hourly frequency, while the rest staying the bell green journey.
Quote from: 2206 on December 08, 2023, 11:27:47 PMWould it make sense for something that serves that side of Coventry to serve it rather than the X17. An extension to some number 8 journeys maybe?
Or if its not that well used could it be scrapped completely?
Maintaining the direct link to Coventry Rail Station at a 30 min frequency would be the point of the X17 extension, extending the 8 was thought about on a previous occasion but it's really down to whatever the contract specification is - that is if it's going to continue.
How can I find the diagram for E127 ??? Is there something wrong with the machine?
Quote from: windy miller on December 20, 2023, 12:33:47 AMHow can I find the diagram for E127 ??? Is there something wrong with the machine?
It's one of 2 that don't seem to track on bus times the other being E143
Quote from: windy miller on December 20, 2023, 12:33:47 AMHow can I find the diagram for E127 ??? Is there something wrong with the machine?
One of several vehicles not currently tracking, reported here:
https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=5982.msg321389#msg321389
@Coventrybususer95 isn't 872 an Enviro200? What would be notable about a single decker being on one of the two routes that require a single decker?
Quote from: ellspurs on December 27, 2023, 01:58:26 PM@Coventrybususer95 isn't 872 an Enviro200? What would be notable about a single decker being on one of the two routes that require a single decker?
To be fair to him, B7RLEs are the primary bus type for that route, E200s are rare on there but it is still a single bus on a single decker route.
Quote from: Danthebusman on December 27, 2023, 03:50:38 PMTo be fair to him, B7RLEs are the primary bus type for that route, E200s are rare on there but it is still a single bus on a single decker route.
That's the bit I needed to know. I had forgotten that there was more than one type of single decker at Cov still.
Is anyone else wondering why first 10 of the later batch E034 to E043 have had the advert added on a brand new livery. When E020 to E029 (10) have the old livery.
If the older 10 were to have it applied and stripped with the livery in bits they would have been repainted to the new one? Would have been a great opportunity to save costs.
Quote from: JosephR on December 31, 2023, 11:16:58 PMIs anyone else wondering why first 10 of the later batch E034 to E043 have had the advert added on a brand new livery. When E020 to E029 (10) have the old livery.
If the older 10 were to have it applied and stripped with the livery in bits they would have been repainted to the new one? Would have been a great opportunity to save costs.
No it wouldn't have saved anything.
Perhaps as an outsider you haven't got all the facts to make the choice I had when making it.
Anyone know if the zenobe bus is still parked in the old car park please. I have a photo of it when I went down the other day
The NSA voices on the cov electrics haven't been working for a year and a half
when will this issue be fixed?
Quote from: frostjay974 on January 28, 2024, 10:41:46 PMThe NSA voices on the cov electrics haven't been working for a year and a half
when will this issue be fixed?
They work sometimes
Quote from: frostjay974 on January 28, 2024, 10:41:46 PMThe NSA voices on the cov electrics haven't been working for a year and a half
when will this issue be fixed?
All the ones i've caught on X1 work fine, which ones do you mean?
Quote from: Jack on January 29, 2024, 02:06:37 AMAll the ones i've caught on X1 work fine, which ones do you mean?
As a driver I can confirm they do work but cut off after more than 1 trip. X1's aren't really affected as the bus gets turned off once back in Coventry due to the layover. However, I did the X1 yesterday and by the time I got to the Alvis Retail Park they cut off and didn't hear them for the rest of my trips
Quote from: Dennis Dart Plaxton Pointer on January 29, 2024, 11:21:00 AMAs a driver I can confirm they do work but cut off after more than 1 trip. X1's aren't really affected as the bus gets turned off once back in Coventry due to the layover. However, I did the X1 yesterday and by the time I got to the Alvis Retail Park they cut off and didn't hear them for the rest of my trips
Seems a bit useless if they stop after 1 trip
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on January 29, 2024, 11:27:12 AMSeems a bit useless if they stop after 1 trip
I'd imagine they're not meant to do that. Something seems to be tripping them
When St James Lane is closed next week how will the 13 return to City if terminating at Craigends Ave?
https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/service-updates/st-james-lane-closure
Could not find out from the service update.
If a reversing move is to be avoided could it be a detour around Langbank Ave / Princethorpe Way / Quorn Way and back onto Willenhall Lane?
Quote from: Jack on January 29, 2024, 02:06:37 AMAll the ones i've caught on X1 work fine, which ones do you mean?
All of them as they will eventually cut off at any random point when the driver stops and opens his doors and it has been happening for some time now. This issue will even randomly happen when the bus is still driving and the voice will just cut off.
E036 has lost its E-ON overall ad, currently on the X1.
E034 the latest bus to have the e.on wrap removed
Is the end near for e-on adds?
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on March 04, 2024, 10:58:00 AMIs the end near for e-on adds?
The plan was to only have them wrapped for 1 month but it lasted slightly longer but yes the end is near now
E035 the next one to have e.on wrap unwrapped. Currently having its paintwork touched up
I've seen a vid of a Coventry electric on the X1 which has had a pretty nasty accident by looking at it. I've heard that it's E062 involved and that the bus is a write off, I don't believe this being how new they are. Anyone able to confirm anything please?
Quote from: Wba_lad on March 14, 2024, 10:38:34 AMI've seen a vid of a Coventry electric on the X1 which has had a pretty nasty accident by looking at it. I've heard that it's E062 involved and that the bus is a write off, I don't believe this being how new they are. Anyone able to confirm anything please?
i think it will most likely get repaired but tony will confirm it
Quote from: Wba_lad on March 14, 2024, 10:38:34 AMI've seen a vid of a Coventry electric on the X1 which has had a pretty nasty accident by looking at it. I've heard that it's E062 involved and that the bus is a write off, I don't believe this being how new they are. Anyone able to confirm anything please?
It's highly unlikely to be written off, it sustained frontal accident damage only.
If it was to be written off, it will be Zenebe's decision not NX's.
Will E062 be replaced with one of the Zenobe spares for the time being?
Quote from: Wba_lad on March 14, 2024, 10:38:34 AMI've seen a vid of a Coventry electric on the X1 which has had a pretty nasty accident by looking at it. I've heard that it's E062 involved and that the bus is a write off, I don't believe this being how new they are. Anyone able to confirm anything please?
You're being fed rubbish again by the sound of it.
Insurers are hardly likely to write-off a vehicle worth nearly half a million pounds, not unless it had been completely destroyed!
Quote from: Stu on March 14, 2024, 08:17:39 PMYou're being fed rubbish again by the sound of it.
Insurers are hardly likely to write-off a vehicle worth nearly half a million pounds, not unless it had been completely destroyed!
That's why I said I did think highly unlikely, hopefully everyone involved was okay and survived. Bus will be off the road for a long time.
Quote from: Stu on March 14, 2024, 08:17:39 PMYou're being fed rubbish again by the sound of it.
Insurers are hardly likely to write-off a vehicle worth nearly half a million pounds, not unless it had been completely destroyed!
I've just seen that video too on the small heath highway driver not in proper lane. X1 looked to be driving quite quick, think the car looked worse off
Quote from: monkeyjoe on March 14, 2024, 09:45:55 PMI've just seen that video too on the small heath highway driver not in proper lane. X1 looked to be driving quite quick, think the car looked worse off
The bus driver was within the speed limit and has been cleared of any blame. Amazing that he kept the bus under control.
Quote from: frostjay974 on March 14, 2024, 07:06:11 PMWill E062 be replaced with one of the Zenobe spares for the time being?
I would guess so, if it is going to be out of action for some time while undergoing repairs. That is of course what the 'spares' are for.
Quote from: monkeyjoe on March 14, 2024, 09:45:55 PMI've just seen that video too on the small heath highway driver not in proper lane. X1 looked to be driving quite quick, think the car looked worse off
Yes, first impressions are that the bus does appear to be speeding, however it's only because the other traffic is stationary that it makes the bus look like it is going faster than it was.
Quote from: Stu on March 15, 2024, 06:49:38 PMI would guess so, if it is going to be out of action for some time while undergoing repairs. That is of course what the 'spares' are for.
Yes, first impressions are that the bus does appear to be speeding, however it's only because the other traffic is stationary that it makes the bus look like it is going faster than it was.
The road is a 40mph road, Electrics have a maximum speed fo 70kph (43mph), so definitely within the 10% normally allowed by police, but probably not driving flat out.
Quote from: Tony on March 15, 2024, 06:56:55 PMThe road is a 40mph road, Electrics have a maximum speed fo 70kph (43mph), so definitely within the 10% normally allowed by police, but probably not driving flat out.
That is correct, I was just pointing out that when seeing that clip for the first time, it does look like the bus is 'bombing it', but clearly it isn't.
Quote from: Stu on March 15, 2024, 07:08:20 PMThat is correct, I was just pointing out that when seeing that clip for the first time, it does look like the bus is 'bombing it', but clearly it isn't.
It looks faster because the cars are virtually stationary
QuoteI've seen a vid of a Coventry electric on the X1 which has had a pretty nasty accident by looking at it. I've heard that it's E062 involved and that the bus is a write off, I don't believe this being how new they are. Anyone able to confirm anything please?
A bus that's only nearly 2 years old and you expect it to be written off. Thanks for causing enough drama already
QuoteA bus that's only nearly 2 years old and you expect it to be written off. Thanks for causing enough drama already
Age is irrelevant. If the damage is too severe to be repaired then a vehicle will be written off regardless of age. Not referring to E062 here but in general
Quote from: John on March 16, 2024, 05:07:02 PMAge is irrelevant. If the damage is too severe to be repaired then a vehicle will be written off regardless of age. Not referring to E062 here but in general
Correct, a vehicle will only be 'written-off' by an insurance company if the cost of repair is equal to or greater than the value of the vehicle.
In the case of E062, it will have depreciated in value since it was purchased, but still must be in the circa £400k range.
Having seen pictures of the damage, I'm not seeing £400k worth of repairs needed.
On the other hand, if the crash/impact had been at the other end of the bus, which would have damaged or destroyed the batteries and electric drivetrain, then it might have been a write-off.
Quote from: Stu on March 16, 2024, 05:26:15 PMCorrect, a vehicle will only be 'written-off' by an insurance company if the cost of repair is equal to or greater than the value of the vehicle.
In the case of E062, it will have depreciated in value since it was purchased, but still must be in the circa £400k range.
Having seen pictures of the damage, I'm not seeing £400k worth of repairs needed.
On the other hand, if the crash/impact had been at the other end of the bus, which would have damaged or destroyed the batteries and electric drivetrain, then it might have been a write-off.
Sometimes there's other things in the balance as well. The WB fire bus was worth more than repair cost, but then you have to take into account the vehicle not being available for several months while being repaired, and the recoverable major units (engine, gearbox axles etc) which can be kept for reuse and save the cost of buying replacements.
Quote from: BBS on March 15, 2024, 08:48:25 PMA bus that's only nearly 2 years old and you expect it to be written off. Thanks for causing enough drama already
Have a read again of what he actually wrote.
Does damage to the chassis make a bus an instant write-off, or does it vary depending on the amount of damage to the chassis?
Quote from: Ronnoc on March 16, 2024, 08:02:43 PMDoes damage to the chassis make a bus an instant write-off, or does it vary depending on the amount of damage to the chassis?
Again it's the cost. chassis can be straightened with the right kit
Will NX be able to repair E062 or will it get sent back to Alexander Dennis to be rebuilt?
QuoteWill NX be able to repair E062 or will it get sent back to Alexander Dennis to be rebuilt?
The insurance company and I assume ADL and Zenobe will assess it first before ADL do any repairs I believe
https://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/service-updates/changes-to-the-51-service
From 7th April, a subtle revision to the 51 route in the Whoberley area to run along Broad Lane, Wildcroft Road and Brookside Avenue (instead of non-stop along Glendower Avenue) this also applies to the Mon-Sat Stagecoach service.
Considering the frequency reduction to the 14 service last summer this is a good move.
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 17, 2024, 03:00:45 PMThe insurance company and I assume ADL and Zenobe will assess it first before ADL do any repairs I believe
Current plan is for one of the bodymakers at Walsall to repair it.
Quote from: JPC on March 22, 2024, 05:46:27 PMhttps://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/service-updates/changes-to-the-51-service
From 7th April, a subtle revision to the 51 route in the Whoberley area to run along Broad Lane, Wildcroft Road and Brookside Avenue (instead of non-stop along Glendower Avenue) this also applies to the Mon-Sat Stagecoach service.
Considering the frequency reduction to the 14 service last summer this is a good move.
Buses along Brookside Ave again - the 11 (of old, up to April 1985) used to terminate there. Has it been used by buses since?
Quote from: paulb1973 on March 24, 2024, 11:31:46 AMBuses along Brookside Ave again - the 11 (of old, up to April 1985) used to terminate there. Has it been used by buses since?
The 'E' service was re-routed further along Allesley Old Road to Brookside Avenue and Wildcroft Rd in it's latter years probably at the time the 26 to Allesley Park operated, c.2002-2006, in order to maintain a 4 per hour daytime service along Allesley Old Road (not counting service 1).
Quote from: Stu on March 14, 2024, 08:17:39 PMYou're being fed rubbish again by the sound of it.
Insurers are hardly likely to write-off a vehicle worth nearly half a million pounds, not unless it had been completely destroyed!
...... especially when it's virtually brand new.....